John Calipari To Arkansas, John Fanta Joins Us To Talk Final Four, Who’s Back And The Eclipse May End The World

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Speaker 1 Today is Monday, April 8th. Breaking Moose.

Speaker 1 Coach John Calapari

Speaker 1 is the new head coach for the Arkansas Razorbacks. So we already recorded the full show.

Speaker 1 We went to Top Golf, had a great time. Video coming out soon.
Hank did great.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 we're sitting there at Top Golf, and we see the news start to trickle in.

Speaker 6 Me and Big Cat didn't see the news right away. Hand up.
We apologize for that. But

Speaker 6 we were playing excellent at Top Golf.

Speaker 1 Yeah, beating Hank at Top Golf. So we see the news, and we're like, this can't be true.
And then in a matter of seconds, it is true. Cal is going to Arkansas.

Speaker 1 Tyson Foods comes and saves the day for Arkansas.

Speaker 6 The chicken man.

Speaker 1 The chicken man.

Speaker 1 So I have a ton of thoughts. I mean, I don't know where we want to start.

Speaker 1 Let's start with this. I love college sports for these type of moments because we have the domino meme.

Speaker 1 SMU goes to the ACC, is able to get Andy Enfield from USC.

Speaker 1 Musk goes from Arkansas to USC,

Speaker 1 and then Cal goes from Kentucky to Arkansas. So SMU going to ACC started this entire thing, and now Kentucky is looking for a new coach in, what, 15 years? Yeah.
And it's crazy.

Speaker 6 It is wild. So the first I heard of this, I was just shocked that Cal was allowed to negotiate with other schools.
Like they did him a favor by not firing him two weeks ago.

Speaker 1 Correct.

Speaker 6 And they had that big meeting. And after that meeting was over, Mitch, the AD, was like, Cal's our coach.
We're going to roll with him.

Speaker 6 And then apparently, in his contract, he has a clause where he's allowed to negotiate with other schools as long as he tells Kentucky about it. Right.
It's like it's an open marriage contract.

Speaker 6 It's Will Smith and Jada Pinkett.

Speaker 1 And he, it's crazy that he did that. He basically did the you can't fire me, I quit.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And so I was listening to Matt Jones at a Twitter space, and he explained it that

Speaker 1 Cal and his group were somehow shocked by the hate that Kentucky had had in the last like two months for Cal and how this season ended. He said that it surprised them and they didn't see that coming.

Speaker 1 And that's where the tide kind of shifted.

Speaker 1 And then you throw in the fact that Arkansas is giving him a ton of money and basically giving him a new lease where, yeah, next year he would have been the Kentucky head coach.

Speaker 1 But if they go out in the first round again, he's fired. So

Speaker 1 he gets a whole new contract. He gets years to build Arkansas.
It's a huge win for Arkansas. And I think it's actually a huge win for Kentucky.
I agree.

Speaker 6 Kentucky fans, like, they wanted him gone two weeks ago.

Speaker 1 Not only that, but it's a huge win for Kentucky for a couple things. One, you don't have to pay him any money.

Speaker 1 So the part of the deal is that if Cal goes, there's no buyout for Arkansas to pay Kentucky, but there's also no money that Kentucky has to pay Cal. So you're free and clear that.

Speaker 1 Two, all the boosters that had turned on Cal are going to be all the way back in and ready to write big checks for whatever coach they want.

Speaker 1 And three, this is the part that I think most Kentucky fans know, but the outside world doesn't. And they try to roast Kentucky and be like, oh, Kentucky's cooked.

Speaker 1 Kentucky is one billion times bigger than Coach Cow. It's Kentucky basketball.
They've won eight national titles. Seven of them are without Coach Cow.

Speaker 6 That's what I was saying earlier. Like if you were to just list the best jobs in college basketball, Kentucky is right up there, maybe number one.

Speaker 6 Like Duke, Jake brought up Duke, and I was like, I don't think so, because with Duke, it's like, that's Coach K. Yeah, it's a prestigious job.
Right.

Speaker 6 But in terms of like the system around the coach, Kentucky's as good as it gets. So do you think that in that meeting where he didn't get fired, any possibility that they came to an understanding?

Speaker 6 Like, hey, we don't want to pay your buyout. You want to leave.
I'm going to say that I'm keeping you around as coach. You go off.
You try to find a new job. That way we're all happy.

Speaker 1 No, I think this probably surprised the fuck out of him. You think so? Yeah.
I think this surprised the fuck out of him.

Speaker 1 I think, because I think this wouldn't, this, this wouldn't have happened if Musk doesn't leave from Arkansas.

Speaker 1 Like that, like the dominoes started to go, and then you have a specific job in Arkansas that has the money.

Speaker 6 And Cal's also close with the chicken people.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 So it's like this, this all kind of worked in a perfect sequential order where it's like everything fell into place that this specific job opened up that has this amount of money that has the boosters that back you.

Speaker 1 So like I said, like Cal has a new lease on life. Like he was he was on the hot seat.
Well, we credit to us, we put him on the hot seat before anyone else, and we were correct.

Speaker 1 But he was on the hot seat in Kentucky, and he probably read the tea leaves and was like, unless I go to the Final Four, I'm basically gone no matter what. And then I'm looking for a new job.

Speaker 1 Why not just take this new job right now that's giving me all the money? And all my friends are the boosters. And they all, like, Arkansas's got to be fucking thrilled.
They're very happy, yeah.

Speaker 1 Right. Hogville.
It's crazy, too. The best part is, I love this when this happens in college sports, too.
The fact that Cal has has to go back to Lexington next year just makes this so, so, so great.

Speaker 1 It's like when Chris Beard had to go back to Texas Tech. Yeah.
And you get these rivalries, and it's just, it makes it, it's why I love college sports more than anything. It's good.

Speaker 6 If you're a Kentucky fan, you're probably like a little bit happy that Cal is not going to be there. You want him gone, like we said.
Yeah. But at the same time, you don't want him to go.

Speaker 6 to an in-conference rival where you have to play him all the time.

Speaker 6 But it's going to create, it's a weird thing that they're going to have to to deal with. And the timing of it is just crazy for it to happen the night before the national championship.
Yep.

Speaker 6 And also the night after Nate Oates and the Crimson Tide lose.

Speaker 1 Yes. So

Speaker 1 I get what you're saying. Like you don't want to have to go up against Cal, but I think, again, Kentucky is bigger than a coach.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And they're, like, they'll be fine because they're going to get a great coach.

Speaker 1 And I do think the money that's going to come in now from a reinvigorated fan base and booster base is going to put the next coach of Kentucky in an incredible spot to succeed. And

Speaker 1 this marriage was always going to break up eventually. They just get to fast forward

Speaker 1 past a couple more painful years that Cal probably doesn't adapt. And they probably have a bunch of lottery picks that don't win in the tournament.

Speaker 1 And now you get to fast forward and you're like, all right, new, we're on to the new one who's probably going to want to be there for a very long time and build something in this new college basketball world.

Speaker 6 Yeah. And with him going to Arkansas, I just wonder if he's going to bring recruits with him.
Like, is he going to be able to get to the bottom?

Speaker 6 Some guys that were going to be at Kentucky. So that'll add a whole new level of hate to Cal when he does have to go back to Lexington.
You got to assume they're all gone. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Then I made, I made like a wish list of just coaches that I hope they look at to hire. Number one for Kentucky, I think we can agree Rick Petino.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Sometimes you got to go back to move forward.

Speaker 6 Send Rick home. He wants to go home.
You heard him on part of my take. He would love to coach at Kentucky.

Speaker 1 That clip will get played a million times if he goes to Kentucky. Yep.

Speaker 6 Then Jay Wright. Jay Wright would be fun getting back in the mix.
I don't think he's going anywhere. I don't think he wants to coach college right now.

Speaker 1 Also, Rick Petino, the one problem with Rick Petino is that

Speaker 1 you'd have to figure out what you're going to do in six years.

Speaker 6 That's true, yeah, to replace him.

Speaker 6 Then Danny Hurley, they're going to call Danny Hurley. They're going to ask Danny Hurley.

Speaker 6 There's no reason for Danny Hurley to take this job except for a very big reason, which is they would probably double his salary.

Speaker 1 I still think it would be 0% just in it. And obviously, with college coaches, it's stupid to say something like 0% because we know that they all would move.
We've seen it a million times.

Speaker 1 But Danny Hurley is a Northeast guy. I don't know what you could do as much as I said, you know, Kentucky's bigger than Cal.

Speaker 1 I don't know how much better you can get than possibly winning two national championships in a row. And he is like, if he wins tonight,

Speaker 1 like that,

Speaker 1 he gets whatever he wants. He's meant to do contract.
He gets everything.

Speaker 6 He's meant to.

Speaker 6 They could throw just an obscene amount of cash at him. That would make him think about it.
I feel like he's

Speaker 1 the type of guy who would say no.

Speaker 6 I don't think that he would either, but when this kind of money is involved, you never know.

Speaker 1 Kentucky has to at least make the call.

Speaker 6 They'll talk to him. Yes.
They'll pick up the phone.

Speaker 1 I hope they don't try to talk to him right now. No, I hope they don't.
They're going to call him tomorrow.

Speaker 6 They're going to call him before the game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I hope he stays focused.

Speaker 6 Yeah,

Speaker 6 I don't think Danny would take the call. I don't either.
I think he'd hang up on him.

Speaker 6 Those are the big ones, Don Staley. Well, Nate Oats.
You just have to get the conversation going. Don Staley.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You forgot about Nate Oates. Nate Oates.

Speaker 6 Well, no, we talked about Nate Oates earlier. Nate Oates seems like he'd be a pretty good fit.
Seems like the buyout would not really be an issue if they're paying a shitload of money anyways.

Speaker 6 They're ready to write some checks.

Speaker 1 And they don't have to pay Cal.

Speaker 1 When we talked to Matt Jones a couple weeks ago, he did say Scott Drew would be at the top of the list, national championship coach, close with the AD. So he's got to be a call that gets made.

Speaker 1 Mark Phew. I have another one.
Mark Phew, I'd say probably not. You don't take the call?

Speaker 1 I don't think so. He hasn't won anything.
Yeah. He hasn't even gone to a final four.
Ever.

Speaker 1 One call that I think they probably will make is my coach. I think they would probably try to get Billy Donovan.
Yeah. I think that would definitely be a call they make.
So Billy D back to the...

Speaker 1 to college. But that, to me,

Speaker 1 I don't know,

Speaker 1 with the way college basketball is now, I feel like it'd be crazy to go back to college if you have a pro job that you feel somewhat secure with.

Speaker 6 I would agree with that. Also, Brad Stevens.
Gotta call him. Gotta call him.
Gotta make Brad say no.

Speaker 1 Jim Boeheim, gotta call him.

Speaker 6 I think he's ready for a new challenge.

Speaker 1 You gotta call Jim Boeheim to see if he'll give you Danny Hurley's number.

Speaker 1 Just be like, hey, Jim. He'd be like, I was expecting this phone call.
It's like, no, actually, we just don't have Danny Hurley's number. We need that from you.
Coach Kay? John Shire.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Kevin Keats.

Speaker 1 Kevin Keats.

Speaker 1 Hank, who you got?

Speaker 1 Danny Sprinkle. Danny Sprinkle.
Danny Sprinkle.

Speaker 6 Make him go from Washington to Kentucky without ever coaching a game.

Speaker 2 What about a guy with national championship experience, Kevin Ollie?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Good point.
Ooh, Kevin Ollie. Yes.
Good point. Great.
Good point. Here's a crazy one that would not happen, but I would just throw it out there because college sports can always shock us.

Speaker 1 Must.

Speaker 1 Must.

Speaker 6 Must to Kentucky.

Speaker 1 What if us?

Speaker 1 He was just like, all right, yeah. I mean, they offer it.

Speaker 1 And then you know what?

Speaker 6 If you're Cal, you have to pick up the phone if USC calls.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes.

Speaker 6 He's always wanted to coach in LA. He was almost the Lakers coach 10 years ago.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Or even Andy Enfield maybe goes back to USC and then Cal goes to SMU. They're in the ACC now.

Speaker 6 Yeah, musical chairs.

Speaker 1 Big program. It's it's crazy.
It is shocking news. Like this is,

Speaker 1 we all thought that, I mean, we're going to talk to Jon Fanta in a minute. And we brought up Cal to him and we're like, We talked about the hot seat and stuff.
Now it already is outdated.

Speaker 1 It's the fastest an interview has ever been outdated in that specific topic. But yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 I really do think Kentucky fans, though, should be happy because it was going to end sooner rather than later. And now you don't have to pay him any money.

Speaker 1 And now you have a bunch of boosters that are like, good.

Speaker 1 He's gone. Let's go get the best coach that we can find.
And we'll pay him all the money. And we'll pay all the NIL.
And Kentucky will probably Kentucky will win a national title before Arkansas.

Speaker 1 I'll do my

Speaker 1 what's the Cavs owners name?

Speaker 1 Yeah I'm gonna

Speaker 1 guarantee it personally guarantee I will personally guarantee and I like Arkansas as a school and I you know they have a tremendous history.

Speaker 1 I was actually watching 40 Minutes of Hell the documentary the other night.

Speaker 6 Nolan? Yeah like awesome.

Speaker 1 It's a fucking passionate creative Bud Walton arena is the best when it gets rocking. But I just think Kentucky will be good.
I think they'll be fine immediately.

Speaker 6 I'm going to go one step further, Big Cat. I'm going to say the next coach at Kentucky will win a national championship.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Whoever you're about to hire right now, future national championship coach.

Speaker 1 Sign up. Yeah.
What's the, what's the.

Speaker 6 Do you think Jerry Jones is just like he's been so preoccupied with his own death and trying to win all the championships he can, like spending all this crazy money? You think that factored into this?

Speaker 6 You think Jerry Jones was like,

Speaker 6 I got to get one at Arkansas too before I die.

Speaker 1 Maybe.

Speaker 6 So just talk to Coach Cal.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I wonder how much he cares about

Speaker 1 basketball.

Speaker 6 That is a Cowboys hire.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Bringing in Cal Pari like this.
Yeah, it's the flashiest hire you can get. The only thing flashier would be is if Kentucky can get Jay Wright.

Speaker 1 That would be the flashiest hire. Oh, what about Kyle Neptune? Get him.

Speaker 6 A lot of great coaches out there.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's going to be fascinating. How quickly do you think it's going to happen? It's got to happen fast, right?

Speaker 6 I think it's probably going to happen the next day or two.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 I mean, i don't think you can announce the hire the day of the national championship game can you yeah you can because it remember when a rod did he announced his contract in the middle of the world series yeah but that's a rod he's different that's true maybe a rod for the kentucky job i just feel like if you do it on the national championship day that that news gets overshadowed by the game later yeah True.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they'll wait a day. Yeah.
But they've already made the calls.

Speaker 6 I think they're making calls. There's Mitch, what's his name? Mitch Barnard? Yeah.
He's on the phone right there.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He's got to figure it out.
And I mean, Cal's years of Kentucky, obviously the ending wasn't good, but he had an incredible run with a national title. Oh, the lights just went out.

Speaker 1 That's the eclipse. That's Undertaker.
That's Cal's decimated. Oh, by the way, I have, let's quickly do this while the lights are out.
Undertaker did come out.

Speaker 1 I also got Brandon Walker sent me Spark notes for

Speaker 1 WrestleMania so that we can say we discussed it. Cody finished his story.
It was no DQ, and Roman had his cronies interfering.

Speaker 1 The Avengers assembled, and one by one appeared to help Cody, culminating in Cena and Taker.

Speaker 6 I'm sorry, but the reps in wrestling suck.

Speaker 1 They do. They suck.
That's cool. Cody Rhodes did it.

Speaker 6 Yeah, good job. I saw The Rock kicked Logan Paul.

Speaker 6 That was fun. Oh, okay.
Gave him a kick right to the chest.

Speaker 1 He kicked him.

Speaker 6 Kicked him.

Speaker 6 Yeah, wrestling.

Speaker 6 I didn't even see any of the highlights besides Jason Kelsey.

Speaker 1 I wish they didn't do it during Final Four weekend because I probably would buy WrestleMania just to see the pops. I love the pops.

Speaker 1 All right, anything else for Kentucky? I mean, crazy, crazy news. Like I said, we've already taped the full show, so you're going to hear us talk about Saturday night, women's, everything.

Speaker 1 And John Fantas on, and we did bring up, I wish we had gotten him after this because I don't know if hear his thoughts. But yeah, Big Blue Nation, you're going to be just fine.

Speaker 1 You're going to fucking, you'll be just fine. Arkansas got a great hire.
They're going to win games now. They're going to get big recruits.
They're going to open up the coffers.

Speaker 1 College basketball's back.

Speaker 6 Let's see John Fanton's comment.

Speaker 6 He's just reporting the news. Just the facts.
Just the facts. Just the facts from him.

Speaker 1 Jay, did you have anything?

Speaker 6 Oh, no, no. He said the coaching carousel is undefeated.
Undefeated. Also a fact.
Undefeated.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think it's crazy. Jack Oakie ended Kyle Parry's career.
Like that's another domino. Yeah, if they beat Oakland, he's probably sticking around.
Yeah, Jack Golkie was the... Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 1 If they beat Oakland, they won't get maybe to the Sweet 16. There's not much.

Speaker 6 As much pressure.

Speaker 1 Jack Golke was the man who did it. But eventually,

Speaker 1 three out of four years losing to North Texas, St. Peter's, and Oakland.
That's the shocking part. The Cal couldn't see the fan base being upset.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're Kentucky, and you lose to those teams in the tournament in the first round.

Speaker 6 He had to have a nice team. It's 2021.

Speaker 1 Matt said that they were shocked by the animosity that the fan base had towards him. Because he thought he had done enough and built up.
Sorry, Purdue lost to North Texas. But either way, yeah, St.

Speaker 1 Peter's and Oakland, two out of three years.

Speaker 1 Oh, and Wikipedia has already updated Date Oates as the head coach at University of Kentucky.

Speaker 6 That's good enough for me.

Speaker 1 Damn, I can't wait to see what happens. All right, let's kick it to ourselves.
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Speaker 1 And we're down to two. The road ends here, PFT.

Speaker 6 It does. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We got Purdue.

Speaker 6 We got UConn.

Speaker 1 We got Zach Eady.

Speaker 6 We got Klingen. We have an interview with Fanta.
He shed light on this, but it's the first time two seven-footers have been on the court on opposite teams in the modern era of CAA3.

Speaker 6 The biggest game ever.

Speaker 1 The biggest game ever. I don't think we've ever sat farther apart for a podcast.
This is very awkward.

Speaker 6 Yeah, no, it's weird.

Speaker 1 It just started like shouting across the room to you.

Speaker 6 Yeah, no cans on or anything. Great job, Max.

Speaker 1 What's up, PFT? I'm doing pretty good. Yeah? What'd you say?

Speaker 1 You want to do the podcast? What?

Speaker 1 There's all my.

Speaker 6 Actually, we should start out by saying, are we sure Caitlin Clark is actually good?

Speaker 1 Ooh, bust.

Speaker 6 Can't win the big one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that game was crazy. The championship game.
Shout out Don Staley for giving a shout-out. Yep.
No free shout-out. Shout out.

Speaker 6 Don Staley a shout-out for giving Caitlin Clark a shout-out.

Speaker 1 Appreciate that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, South Carolina turns out really good at basketball. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Caitlin Clark, maybe the best first quarter that she could possibly have. And then she was just out of gas by the end of it.

Speaker 1 And the game.

Speaker 6 So South Carolina, did you know they've only lost three games in the last three years? Yeah, they're 109 and three.

Speaker 1 The only game they had lost in the last two years was the game to Iowa in the Final Four last year. Yeah, wild.

Speaker 1 But Caitlin Clark ends her college career going out with just everyone in the world hating her for some reason.

Speaker 6 Or having an, I feel like so many people started to hate on her that there was backlash to the backlash now, where it's like Caitlin Clark is good.

Speaker 6 It's actually perfect because you have the old heads in WNBA complaining about the young people being like, oh, the kids today can't play like we used to play.

Speaker 6 Bob Bryan being like, yeah, players were much better in my day.

Speaker 6 I think that's just a natural thing in sports. We're just seeing it on the women's stage.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Diana Taurasi, I think, wants to assault Caitlin Clark when she shows up to the WNBA. But yeah, it was a weird ending because she's obviously done so much for the women's game.

Speaker 1 There were crazy ratings on Friday. I'm sure crazy ratings for today's game.

Speaker 6 What's your number? Oh, I got 20 mil, exactly.

Speaker 1 Oh, I think it's going to be less than that. I'm going to say 17.

Speaker 6 17 mil?

Speaker 1 17 mil. But yeah, it was weird, like the hate that she was getting from all the WNBA players, new.
Yeah, just, but I guess they just don't like you know the young buck on the scene.

Speaker 6 I guess she attracts so much attention, but I want to see it expand. I want to see like female hockey players being like female basketball players are soft as shit.

Speaker 6 They don't, they don't play like we play.

Speaker 1 Get it all the way there. Yeah.
But yeah, so we're here in Arizona. We went to the game on Saturday.

Speaker 1 Why don't we talk about the games? Purdue

Speaker 1 beats NC State.

Speaker 1 NC State played some of the worst basketball I've watched.

Speaker 1 Nothing to take away from Purdue.

Speaker 1 Purdue, like, but I think if you told NC State fans before that game Purdue only was going to score 63 points, they would have been like, oh, we have a real shot at this.

Speaker 1 Purdue's just too good.

Speaker 1 Their defense was great. I also think, and not making excuses, as soon as Michael O'Connell, the point guard for NC State, went down with that injury, their offense basically was erased.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it was tough. Especially at at the start of the second half.
It seemed like neither team wanted to make a shot. Yeah.
But there was

Speaker 6 a moment when the game started where it was DJ Burns against Zach Eady for a little bit. And we're like, how's this going to work out? DJ learned pretty quickly that you can't spin around Zach Edie.

Speaker 6 Yes. He's too wide.
His arms go too long. He did a couple of those spin moves, which get you around almost anybody else in the game.
And then he picks up his dribble.

Speaker 6 He's like, oh shit, Zach Edie's here, too. Yes.
He's on both sides of me.

Speaker 1 And Zach Eady scored 20 points, only two free throws. So shout out.

Speaker 1 I know that Purdue fans hate the discourse that was I mean they were just they were better than NC State and NC State like what an insane run that you know our guy Quiggs was with us diehard NC State fan that is one of those things that if you're a sports fan even though it didn't end well you'll remember that run from the ACC championship all the way to the final four forever you had a great tournament the story of this game was like NC State make a mid-range jump shot challenge impossible yeah they just couldn't hit anything and then yeah you're right he Edie did not get to the foul line a lot, but the two foul shots he had were the most upsetting foul shots, I think, in the history of basketball because there was no whistle for the media timeout.

Speaker 6 So it was a double media timeout. Oh, wow.
So Edie goes up there.

Speaker 6 They come out of a media timeout. He shoots one foul shot.
Boom. Media timeout again.
You had one foul shot in between commercials. Disgusting.
It was disgusting for the sport, for the youngsters.

Speaker 1 Disgusting. But yeah, Purdue, I mean, I think they can absolutely,

Speaker 1 I know they're seven-point dogs, but

Speaker 1 they have the best chance against UConn in terms of what they have like on the floor, guard play, ED just being a monster. And

Speaker 1 I would have liked to see that Michael O'Connell injury, like the NC State run,

Speaker 1 he was the one who hit that three against Virginia. The offense running through him let them kind of play a little more free.

Speaker 1 And then he just, I feel like every single year at the Final Four, they do the video showing how cool it is that they painted this court and then someone gets injured right away.

Speaker 1 And that was like a phantom floor injury. He only ended up playing 12 minutes.
I think Purdue wins no matter what, but you could tell that NC State's offense was in a big funk after that.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it was like anytime NC State made one three-pointer, it was like, oh, maybe they're back. Maybe they're all going to go in.
But it was never close.

Speaker 1 Also, we should,

Speaker 1 I, Zach Eady,

Speaker 1 like,

Speaker 1 well played, he, he revealed on Friday press conference to basically get everyone to be like, I actually feel bad for Zach Eady, that the laws don't let him make money in the NIL because he's a Canadian,

Speaker 1 he's from Canada and he's on a green card. That's crazy.
Zach Eady, I actually like him now a fan of you because you were right. You missed out on a lot of money.

Speaker 6 A ton of money. Ton of money.
Actually, some student at Purdue should marry him, become a citizen. Yep.
Then he makes all the money. Just like pay the girl $10,000, marry me.

Speaker 6 Okay, now I'm a millionaire. Yeah.
Instantly.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but that sucks for him. And when he played it perfectly, because I didn't know that until he said it on Friday.
And then immediately everyone's like, the discourse changes.

Speaker 1 Like, wait, Zach Edie's getting screwed.

Speaker 6 I saw somebody say that there's like an NIL collective that might be able to give him money through a loophole. So he might be making some money, but he's not making like official NIL money.

Speaker 6 Like anybody else is doing it.

Speaker 1 He would have been raking it in. He's having one of the best tournament runs of all time.
Yeah. And he's been a star.
He was the back-to-back national player of the year.

Speaker 1 Zach Edie, you deserve some money.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I just, it's always like, it can be frustrating at times watching him play, but just thinking about, okay, we get to watch Zach Edie go up against DJ Burns. That was fun.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Now we're like, okay, we get to watch Zach Edie play against another seven-footer.

Speaker 6 I just like watching seven-footers be matched up against other people playing basketball.

Speaker 1 And let's enjoy this game because

Speaker 1 I've... Listen, I've said my things about Purdue.
Everyone knows where I stand. I've never said that Zach Edie's not good at basketball.
He's really good at basketball.

Speaker 1 I've noticed, though, the new trend is, well, he's going to suck in the NBA.

Speaker 6 Who cares? Yeah, no one cares about it.

Speaker 1 Like, there's a lot of college players that, I mean, we watched

Speaker 1 during the halftime of the second game, they had the Olympic three-on-three game, and Jimmer Ferdett was playing it. Yeah, he was the elite.
And I was like, this has got to be this.

Speaker 1 Like, I know that he's playing in the Olympics, but still, Jimmer Ferdette probably didn't think this was how he's going to get to a Final Four.

Speaker 6 This guy's going to stink in. The NBA guy is the same guy as the after-taxes guy.
Yeah. Same, cut from the same club.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'd be like, oh, well, he's making $20 million a year, but the agents' fees, taxes.

Speaker 6 Probably clearing 10.

Speaker 1 Such a good point. It is.

Speaker 1 Same person. Same exact guy.

Speaker 1 So yeah, Purdue in the final, and then we had UConn. Bama played an almost perfect half of basketball in the first half offensively.

Speaker 1 But they did everything they needed to do. They were shooting 70% from three, and they were down four.
And that's just how good UConn is.

Speaker 1 And UConn, like Dan Hurley said afterwards, they knew that Bama was going to make their their threes. Their entire defensive strategy was just don't let them take 40 of them.
And that's what they did.

Speaker 1 They ran them off the line. They were, they were switching on every, or they were fighting through screens, switching on everything when they needed to.
It was defensively, UConn, like

Speaker 1 the stats show that Bama shot well, but they shot so many less threes than they wanted to shoot. And that was kind of the name of the game.

Speaker 1 It's like, you can make those, but you're not going to get to shoot 40 threes.

Speaker 6 Yeah, and then UConn was just physically dominant on them later.

Speaker 1 He did the step on the throat.

Speaker 6 stomped on their throat. It felt like it fit, what was it, 56, 56?

Speaker 1 It was 56, 56, 12 minutes left.

Speaker 6 And then it was just all UConn. And from that point on, it was like, this is very obvious who's going to win this game.

Speaker 6 We did get one of the saddest moments, I think, in college basketball history.

Speaker 6 The NC State mascot and the UConn mascot hugging it out.

Speaker 6 The two dogs. Except the UConn mascot's head came off, which was very weird to see.
But it was, I think everyone had a little tear in their eye watching that.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's what it's all about, sportsmanship between mascots. I have some crazy UConn stats for you.

Speaker 1 UConn was the first to score 69 last night. They have now won 110 straight games where they reached 69 before their opponent.
This is from No Escalators, who's a great follow.

Speaker 1 And then also UConn has won 18 consecutive neutral site games by double digits. It's insane.
It's pretty outrageous. The St.
John's, they beat St.

Speaker 1 John's of the the Big East tournament by five, but that was semi-neutral because it was in New York.

Speaker 1 That's actually how it's like classified. Semi-neutral.
Semi-neutral game, but it's pretty crazy the run they've been on. They just have an answer to everything.
And I honestly think that like...

Speaker 1 Purdue scares me, but UConn's guards are so much bigger than every other teams, especially, I mean, they're bigger than Purdue's and like they play so physical and they rebound.

Speaker 1 So like even the guards rebound well and they just they're just a well-oiled machine.

Speaker 1 Like they never, they never flinch, and they're always just like we're going to run our stuff and it's going to beat you. Maybe it will take a little bit of time.

Speaker 1 Alabama played them tougher than probably anyone's played them in the tournament since the Iona first half in uh the first round last year. But that was, yeah, I mean, that's what UConn does.

Speaker 1 They're just, they're a machine.

Speaker 6 How about Cam Spencer just being able to rebound, do everything? I did have, there was one tweet that made me laugh very hard last night. Max was watching the game.

Speaker 6 He had a couple cocktails in him, and he said, if

Speaker 6 if Cam Spencer played a Duke, he would be the national devil. I like that phrase.
Yeah. The national devil.
What do you mean by that?

Speaker 1 He would just be

Speaker 1 the most hated Duke guy. I agree with that.
There's nothing about it. He has a very hateable face.
He also crushed Nova every time we played him. I like him a lot.
I hate him so much. Yeah.

Speaker 6 I think if Kolick played at Duke, he would be the national devil.

Speaker 1 He's just a kid. He's like 21, 22.

Speaker 1 Also, UConn had all five starters in double digits. I feel like they do that every game.
It's crazy.

Speaker 6 Yeah, and they've got depth off the bench, too. They have everything.
They're inevitable. And then Coach Hurley won the Naismith Coach of the Year Award today.
Yep.

Speaker 6 I think that's a trick by college basketball to be like, okay, we're going to gas him up so hard so he takes his foot off the pedal tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 It's classic NCAA going against Coach

Speaker 6 giving him an award for being the best coach. Yeah, now they get sleep.

Speaker 1 Yep. They get their circadian rhythm.
Well, until the eclipse. Until the eclipse.
That's going to fuck them up.

Speaker 6 The eclipse is probably doing something against Hurley, too.

Speaker 1 We have just two awards for everything because Kelvin Sampson won Coach of the Year, too. Oh, yeah? Yeah, there's just two awards for everything in college basketball.

Speaker 6 Make it easy for us to understand. We're dumb.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 I saw that Hurley won that, and I was like, wait, didn't we announce this a second ago?

Speaker 6 I think this was Naismith,

Speaker 6 whatever difference the Naismith awards.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Kelvin Sampson won the Associated Press Coach of the Year.

Speaker 6 Okay, from the Journos.

Speaker 1 Yeah, from the Journos who don't know ball.

Speaker 1 That's a fact.

Speaker 6 If UConn wins, are we ready to have the discussion that UConn is ruining basketball? Well, they're too good.

Speaker 1 It's pretty crazy if UConn wins this game. They will have more national titles than Indiana and Duke.
They will be third all-time. UCLA has 11.
Kentucky has eight. UConn would have six.

Speaker 1 And all six would have been in the last 25 years.

Speaker 6 It's been a pretty good run.

Speaker 1 It's insane. And they also go, they've gone, this is their seventh Final Four, so there's only one time they've gone to a Final Four that they haven't won at all.

Speaker 1 They've also never been to a championship game that they didn't win.

Speaker 6 I think you could make the argument that UConn basketball fans are probably the most spoiled sports fans in the world because not only you root for UConn, you probably root for the Celtics.

Speaker 6 Hank, you probably root for the Patriots, probably root for the Bruins. Maybe the Yankees.
You've had a really good run if you're a UConn fan.

Speaker 2 UConn's pretty split, though.

Speaker 1 Like there's a, it's probably, I don't know, 60, 40.

Speaker 6 Yeah, like Western Connecticut. Yeah.
They're New York. They commute there.
They fly there in their helicopters to trade stocks in the morning.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And it probably feels nice for the Mets fans that are UConn fans.

Speaker 6 Yeah, you deserve that. Yeah, you definitely deserve that.

Speaker 1 But it's crazy the run they've been on.

Speaker 1 And yeah, they would be, I mean, to think that UConn could have more national titles than Duke and Indiana, and they've only done it in the last since 99 was their first one.

Speaker 6 It's crazy. We gave them their blue blood last year.
Yeah. Your blue blood.

Speaker 1 Congratulations. And I don't know.
Maybe I'm biased here because I liked Dan Hurley a lot. I've liked him for a very long time.
And obviously, I have money invested in UConn this year.

Speaker 1 Are they hatable outside of the Big East fans?

Speaker 6 I think they're, if they win this, they become annoying. Yeah.
Just like these motherfuckers. They just reload again.
They're not.

Speaker 1 I was thinking about it because Duke obviously is hateable for all the Duke reasons, but it's also because Duke is always there.

Speaker 1 They go to a bunch of Final Fours, all that stuff. UConn just goes to Final Fours and wins them.
You know what I mean? Like the fact that they've only been to seven and

Speaker 1 they've won five going for their six on Monday night. Like Duke goes there and is always in the mix.
Like UConn even has had that.

Speaker 1 When they were in the AAC or whatever the fuck it was called, they were bad for a while like Duke's never really bad UNC is never really that bad Kansas like that's so I I feel like the hatable nature of them isn't all the way turned up because also they beat Duke sometimes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 99 That was good Duke was the Duke was like the best team ever to win not win a championship.

Speaker 6 Yeah, and have have they beaten any really really likable teams on this run that they've been on on this run?

Speaker 1 Yeah

Speaker 6 Like they there's not a lot of people rooting against them. Right.
And I feel like people don't watch as much UConn as they would watch. Like, UConn's not shoved down your throat on a

Speaker 6 national scale.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, they have a bias against them.

Speaker 6 They have a bias against them. So you don't get overload.
You don't get fatigue from them until the tournament.

Speaker 6 And even when the tournament happens, they have such big blowouts that people don't really watch that many of their games.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so Max, did this whole part of the show just make you sick to your stomach?

Speaker 1 Okay. That's a good answer.
Jake, how was the game from Pressro? We saw you in your suit.

Speaker 6 Oh, you were so pumped up for the wedgie.

Speaker 1 Oh, we were watching you take a picture of the wedgie. Yeah, it was awesome.

Speaker 1 Really cool experience. Thank you to the NCA for credentialing us.
I'll be back tonight. Fuck the NCAA.

Speaker 6 Yeah. You're pieces of shit.

Speaker 1 Well, me individually, I appreciate it. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, but do fuck the NCAA because we don't like the NCAA. But yeah.
Yeah, but it was really cool. Got some good interviews afterwards.
Got hurley.

Speaker 1 Yep. He said that.
He'll do it all the time.

Speaker 1 He'll come on the show all the time. It means winning.
Yep.

Speaker 6 I saw you asked the guy that shot the wedgie about the wedgie. Yeah, D.R.
He was overwhelmed by that question.

Speaker 1 I don't, I did this last year with Marquise Noel.

Speaker 6 I think it was.

Speaker 1 They hate wedgies because they take it as such a thing of embarrassment. Yeah.
Well, I think almost everyone hates wedgies except you. And I and Eagle.
And I and Eagle. Yeah, he loves it too.

Speaker 1 How is he? Did you listen?

Speaker 6 I saw some highlights back, but oh, you got to go back and he was built for it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because I was there. But yeah, he's the best.
Him and Raftery have great chemistry. Grand Hill.
Tracy Wolfson had to use like a mini ladder.

Speaker 6 That That was.

Speaker 1 But she didn't for Zach Edie, and it was crazy watching. Yeah.
Like she was basically at his belly button. Yeah.
So it was really cool and excited to run it back tonight.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so you got your picture, too, in mid-court of that. Annual tradition.
Yeah, it was nice to see. We were literally just watching you on press row.
They did you guys dirty with the seats.

Speaker 1 I appreciate them doing that. Yeah, but let's be honest.
Like if I were, those were shitty seats. They put you guys like behind the basket, like all the way up.
Yeah, but we had some great access.

Speaker 6 Did you see Jim Nance?

Speaker 1 I did. It was weird seeing him in street clothes.
What was he wearing? He was just wearing like a shirt and like a jacket.

Speaker 1 Fucking wild. Yeah.
Like

Speaker 1 have you ever seen him not wearing a full suit and tie? Yeah, they showed him in the Houston game. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That

Speaker 1 he didn't go to the one that

Speaker 1 Tony Romo was at.

Speaker 6 Yeah, that's right. It was Duke Houston, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he didn't go to that one. He went to the one before.

Speaker 6 That's really interesting. Very interesting.
Because Romo was there. Romo was there.

Speaker 6 You would think that they'd be good friends.

Speaker 1 Correct. Not.
Huh. They are not.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 I would be a little bit weirded out not seeing a tie in gymnast. I'll give you that, Jake.
Yeah. Like, I assume the gym dance sleeps and showers in a suit.

Speaker 6 So we're not going to get the tie thing this year. Yeah, that's really sad.

Speaker 6 Do you think, yeah. Do you think he was commentating the game as it was going on?

Speaker 1 In his head, for sure. Yeah.
Maybe. Yeah.
Definitely. I saw Jay Wright.
Yeah. Yeah, he was right in front of us.

Speaker 6 What was the food like?

Speaker 1 Food was good. It was Mexican and then pretzels and then a bunch of sodas.
What was the bathroom situation like? Fine.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's bad.

Speaker 1 Saying fine is the worst thing you could say about it. Pass, fail, pass.

Speaker 6 Did they have enough water?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 6 they're trying to dry you out, Jake.

Speaker 1 They do this in the desert cups or bust. So you can't, you have to go back to the cooler.
Oh, wow. Fill it.
Can't take bottles. Disgusting.

Speaker 1 They won't let her bottle every media time out and fill up my

Speaker 1 water thing. And then you have to go to the bad, the just-fine bathrooms.
Yeah. Damn.
It's tough. You're going to be able to do that.
I appreciate the NCAA crowds.

Speaker 1 Hank, how did you like the games? I had fun. Yeah.
Good time.

Speaker 1 I kind of was hoping for a close game, but excited for tonight. I know.
They weren't. I mean, the Bambook Yukon game was.
close-ish. Yeah, it was tough.
It was 12 minutes.

Speaker 1 And then UConn was just, yeah. Tonight does have the feeling of like this could be an all-time classic.

Speaker 6 I hope it's close.

Speaker 6 We deserve. America deserves a close title game.

Speaker 1 I agree with that.

Speaker 1 Spoiled the last two years of the Final Four. We had Duke UNC, Coach K's last game, and last year we had a buzzer beater.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, we did have a buzzer beater. San Diego State forgot about that.
We did. We forgot about that.
It's kind of just water finds its level, I guess.

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Speaker 1 Okay, what else we got? What else do we want to talk about? I mean, all the pitchers are hurt.

Speaker 6 Yeah, everyone's getting.

Speaker 6 What did I tell Jeff Passon? Yeah. Give these guys preemptive Tommy John.

Speaker 1 It's very funny, though, because the story now is that the pitch clock is the culprit

Speaker 1 when it doesn't seem like the data backs that up at all. Because if you look at Tommy John's, like the Tommy John surgery rise, it's been on a steady rise the last like 10 years.

Speaker 6 It might be the fact that guys are throwing like 102 miles per hour.

Speaker 1 And guys are and guys are learning how to throw 90 miles an hour in high school and all their arms are fucked by the time they get to MLB.

Speaker 6 But I don't think I don't think a 20 second versus 30 second delay in between pitches is going to make guys' arms fall off. Right.

Speaker 1 But it is like now this is like it feels like strike while the iron's hot. They're trying to get it.
They're trying to get the pitch clock gone because you had Shane Bieber, Strider. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Everyone's got

Speaker 6 all the good guys. I blame the uniforms.
I think new uniforms probably

Speaker 6 did it, right? Fanatics did it again. This is definitely Fanatics.

Speaker 1 Blame it on them.

Speaker 1 Okay, what else do we have from the Final Four? Anything else? I mean,

Speaker 1 it's been a good trip. I'm very excited.
We have a bunch of Masters stuff coming up this week with Max and Brooks, a bunch of other people. Any other notes from the Final Four?

Speaker 6 No, it's been fun.

Speaker 1 Oh, what happened with Shohay's home run ball? The woman got scammed?

Speaker 6 Yeah, somebody got scammed from it, but did she make her money back? I don't know.

Speaker 1 What'd she do? She caught his first home run ball as a Dodger, and then she got a couple things, and the story came out, and she was like, no, they basically

Speaker 1 put me in a room and pressured me to give the ball back.

Speaker 1 So I guess Johe is just a bad guy all around. No, they always do that.

Speaker 2 People are so bad at negotiating.

Speaker 1 You got to listen to Ravel. Revelle always has like, whenever someone catches a big ball, he's like, first thing I would do is leave the stadium.

Speaker 6 Yeah, have an exit strategy. First plan.
When you get in there, think about what you would do with that ball.

Speaker 1 Document it, leave the stadium,

Speaker 1 get in touch with the lawyer immediately.

Speaker 6 I would just piss on it. Be like, no one's going to want it if I peed all over it.
That's good. I've got this piss-soaked ball rolling around.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't think anything else besides this, like, this has been, it's been Final Four Weekend. WrestleMania happened.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 I didn't watch. I didn't either.
I saw Jason Kelsey was there doing something. The Rock won.

Speaker 1 Maybe coming back? I didn't realize The Rock was a heel. Yeah, he went heel because everyone loves Cody Rhodes.
So this has been like the last three months has been The Rock.

Speaker 1 Everyone's like, no, not The Rock. Yeah, our guy TJ had it up on press row and I was watching for a second I was like oh my god

Speaker 1 Wait TJ was on was credentialed? Yeah, because we were supposed to do the titus show and titus got sick So we're gonna do it tonight.

Speaker 1 Okay, wait, so he was watching wrestling instead of the final four? No, he's multitasking Interesting.

Speaker 6 We'll have to look into the credentials there.

Speaker 1 The rock was mean to Philly, too. What do you say? What'd he say? He showed up late to an event.

Speaker 1 I think he showed up like two hours late, and like people are filming him, like motherfucking him because he showed up so late.

Speaker 1 And he was like, sorry, I was just watching highlights of Jalen Hurts lose in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's just weird seeing him as a bad guy. I've never thought I'd see that day.
I feel like him and John Cena were like the untouchables.

Speaker 2 They need a local hero to come back and throw a big event.

Speaker 1 Oh, I got a, I, I,

Speaker 1 I got a

Speaker 1 who that I got a, I got a, I got a, I got a headline for you. Dodgers make peace with fans who caught Shoheio Tanny Ball wheel review process.
Okay. Sounds like they fucked fucked up.

Speaker 6 So it sounds like they, yeah, they took this woman into a room and then just basically made her give up the ball. Yeah.
She exchanged the ball for two signed hats, a signed ball, and a signed bat.

Speaker 6 And Auction House told the athletic that the ball would be worth at least $100,000.

Speaker 1 Damn. Yep.

Speaker 7 Who buys that shit?

Speaker 1 Revelle. Yeah, 100%.
Those people definitely buy it. And they're like, Shohei,

Speaker 1 it would be funny if they bought it. And then, well, would it go up if he got suspended for life?

Speaker 6 Yeah, if that's his last home run ball ever.

Speaker 1 Only home run ball for the Dodgers. Yeah.

Speaker 6 That'd be worth a ton of time. He toned another one, though,

Speaker 1 at Wrigley this year. He looked pretty happy, you know, going to Wrigley with the sports book attached to it.
Yeah, interesting. Yeah, he looked pretty happy.

Speaker 1 All right, let's do who's back of the week, and then we'll get to Jon Fanta.

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Speaker 1 Hank.

Speaker 2 Like who's back the league was Tommy John?

Speaker 1 Sorry.

Speaker 1 What do you want to say about it? You, as a former pitcher?

Speaker 2 It's back, yeah. You gotta, we gotta watch out for the sliders.
I, I too many cutters.

Speaker 1 I spoke with

Speaker 1 our, we'll have him on later this year. I spoke with our good friend Dan Heron because I was like, what's going on? He's like, it's just

Speaker 1 like everyone's obsessed with velocity. Kind of what Jeff Passon was saying.
Like, everyone just looking at the numbers, being like, you got to throw 100, you got to throw 100.

Speaker 1 And arms are just getting pushed to this max at an early age, and everyone's destroying them. Is it the sweeper?

Speaker 6 It might be the sweeper because we didn't talk about the sweeper pitch until like five years ago. And now everyone's got a sweeper.
Now Tommy John's up.

Speaker 1 Arms aren't supposed to throw that high.

Speaker 6 Maybe the eclipse has something to do with it, too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Bring back the Greg Maddoxes of the world.

Speaker 6 Yeah, the nerds.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 92 on the black gets them out.

Speaker 1 Location is just as good as 100. That's my game.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Low 70s accuracy.

Speaker 1 Low 70s. All ephesus.

Speaker 2 And then my other who's back was the fourth dimension, but we'll get to that.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. We'll talk about the eclipse accurate.

Speaker 6 I'll give you another free who's back, Hank. Angel Hernandez.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Had a great call today.
Right down the middle. One.

Speaker 6 No, no, I was talking about the strike that he called. So the pitcher stepped off the mound and then stepped back on, didn't even look at the batter, threw a pitch.

Speaker 6 It was like two inches high, called it a strike. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's.

Speaker 1 I just like that he, yeah. I mean, like Joe West retired.
We needed a guy who can just make it all about himself. That's him.

Speaker 6 And I love how defensive he gets. Like, he's never made a wrong call in his life.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's the best. Also, the snow baseball rocked in Pittsburgh.
Yeah. That was awesome.
That is good. I love snow baseball.
Okay, PFT.

Speaker 6 My who's back of the week is Pup Punk.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 6 So exclusive announcement here. I think we're putting this public later on in the day on Monday, but I'm excited about it.
Really pumped. We're doing a summer concert mini tour this summer.

Speaker 6 It's the Pup Punk Off-the-Leash Pink Whitney tour. And first date is in Chicago, right, Chicago, May 31st, Joe's on Weed.
And then in August, we're going August 2nd, Columbus

Speaker 6 at Scully's. Saturday, August 3rd, Nashville at the Barstool Bar.
Friday, August 30th in D.C. at Union Stage.
And then Saturday, August 31st, Philly at Underground Arts.

Speaker 6 And so I know for at least the Chicago one, we're going to get some people from the office to come out and sing some songs with us. I've asked Big Cat if he can do it.

Speaker 6 Max, I believe, is down to sing a song too. So, Max, you have to figure out a song.

Speaker 2 If you want to do shallow, I can play guitar.

Speaker 6 Can you? You have it down, Pat.

Speaker 1 That's true. He does have guitar down.

Speaker 6 What would you want to sing, Max?

Speaker 1 I don't know. I'd have to think about it.

Speaker 6 First of the month? Nope.

Speaker 1 I want to do tequila. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Be great. Well, that's memes.
Yeah. That is memes.
Yeah. Worst show ever.
Probably going to get him fired.

Speaker 1 Either Mr. Pear or at least.

Speaker 6 Come make memes come out on stage. Just do a cappella.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. My who's back is the world ending.
So

Speaker 1 PFT and I both got a text message from our friend Jersey Jerry on Saturday night during the games.

Speaker 1 And it read, I suggest you take out all your money out of your bank and stop using credit cards for the next few months until I can give you the green light again.

Speaker 1 We will be under a cyber attack sooner rather than later. Just looking out, I'm in communication with a very important person for one of, if not the biggest software companies in the world.

Speaker 6 So, sounds like we're fucked. Yeah, no, Jerry's got the inside intel right now.

Speaker 1 I tried to get the actual company out of him. Yeah.

Speaker 6 And

Speaker 6 I said, What company? This seems bad. He says, I can't say, bro.
He's a multi-millionaire. I think wealthier than Dave.
Oh. Yeah, I just can't say his name.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 6 Take all your money out of the bank. I'm telling you.

Speaker 6 I think I trust Jerry.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, he gets a lot of his news from TikTok.

Speaker 1 Did I say all of it? Yeah, all of it. And he even

Speaker 1 sources it that way, saying, Did you see that article on TikTok?

Speaker 1 And he did sit next to someone on a plane that told him this information.

Speaker 1 He also has been telling me for a while now that right before the election, they're going to shut down the banks and make everyone get a chip to take their money out.

Speaker 1 So, yeah,

Speaker 1 I think we're in trouble, guys.

Speaker 1 I think this is a bad, bad scene.

Speaker 6 I think we're in deep, deep shit. I asked him to send me a link to some of the theories that he's been reading, and then he just sent me a screenshot of a text that he sent to Erica.
Oh.

Speaker 6 So that was his link.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right, Chake.

Speaker 1 My who's back is Crazy Injuries. We had a wild finish on the PGA tour this week.

Speaker 1 Akshay Batia, he made a putt on the 72nd hole to force a playoff, and he fist pumped so hard he dislocated his shoulder. Oh, it's like Tony Fee now.
Popped it back in. That's a baseball.

Speaker 1 And won in a playoff and got his ticket to Augusta.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it was the last open spot in Augusta that he won. Holy shit.
Yeah, so good for him. But yeah, it was very funny watching him.

Speaker 6 It's such a funny golfer nerd injury.

Speaker 6 I've never celebrated in my life that hard.

Speaker 1 Wait,

Speaker 1 did he pound someone?

Speaker 1 He just. No, he just

Speaker 1 did it himself. This was the final putt to force a playoff.
Oh, no. Just popped out like that.

Speaker 1 That wasn't even that hard. No.

Speaker 1 Jesus.

Speaker 1 Golfers. I'm excited for the Masters.
Yeah, it's going to be very incredible. Also excited for our mini golf tournament.
You want to plug that real quick, Hank?

Speaker 2 Yeah, two-day four-round mini-golf tournament. It's going to be live.
No editing necessary.

Speaker 2 Wednesday, all day

Speaker 2 and night. Thursday after Masters coverage.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Big field. A lot of competition.
A lot of questions about how deep the holes are. So we're going to find out.

Speaker 1 Do you know the answer to how deep the holes are?

Speaker 2 No, it was Jeff D. Lowe's.
The first thing he said to me was like, how deep are these holes? And I was like, that's a fair question that I don't know the answer to.

Speaker 1 That's such a Jeff D. Lowe's.

Speaker 2 I think they're normal depth.

Speaker 6 Apparently, it makes a difference what depth the holes are.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it makes sense.

Speaker 1 Okay. Also, shout out Billy for getting enough signatures to be on the ballot.

Speaker 6 Yeah, Billy is officially running for Congress now. So credit to him.

Speaker 1 We still got to figure out this Jim Toe's hardcore common sense issue.

Speaker 6 I think it's pretty simple. I think you just go mega common sense.

Speaker 1 Yeah, mega hardcore common sense. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Common sense squared.

Speaker 1 So much common sense, we're going to make you puke out common sense. Yeah.

Speaker 6 No, I think I am rooting for Billy now.

Speaker 1 Oh, Billy should actually go on a much publicized ayahuasca trip, but not ayahuasca. It's just common sense.
Yeah. He's got a shaman who just gives him all the common sense and he pukes it out.

Speaker 6 He should go on stage with a beer bong that just has common sense on the side.

Speaker 1 Just chugging.

Speaker 1 He should boost some common sense. Yeah.
If he wants to really get it. Does he have any more interviews lined up?

Speaker 6 He did two. He did two on

Speaker 6 Thursday. The second one that he did, I realized Billy's got a chance to win.
The man is a natural politician.

Speaker 6 At the end of the interview, when he reached over, shook the guy's hand and his eyes, he did the smile eyes that politicians. So creepy, yeah.
And I was like, fuck, Billy actually,

Speaker 6 this might be what Billy was born to do. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, he does bullshit with the best of them, so he's perfect. And I said it on Friday, but like

Speaker 1 word of state in American politics, I think Billy's actually a pretty good good option. Yeah, I would say it's scary to say, but I kind of believe it.
I would agree with it. Close to endorse.

Speaker 1 I still want to see what Jim Toe's hardcore common sense looks like.

Speaker 1 And then I'll fully endorse.

Speaker 6 When Billy was first announcing this plan, we're like, wait, Billy,

Speaker 6 don't you have to like live right there in that district? He's like, well, I lost my virginity there.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 6 that's a pretty good reason. Yeah.
That's perfect. That's as good a reason as any.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, let's get to John Phantom. We'll talk some more Monday night championship game.

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Speaker 1 Okay, here he is, John Fanta.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on one of our favorite guests in the entire world. It is Johnny Fanta live in person.
We knew we had to get you in person at the Final Four.

Speaker 1 Where should we start? I mean, the theater. The drama.
What was your speech? I loved it. Anything you do, I just love watching.
What did you say?

Speaker 1 What did you you say in the bowels of the stadium last night?

Speaker 3 It's theater, it's fate, it's destiny.

Speaker 3 This is what you sign up for when you start the marathon in November. For the hardcore junkies who are sweating out,

Speaker 3 38.5-point dog in a bye game, this is what they live for now on Monday nights. Yeah, they might have lived for that too.

Speaker 3 But we start the marathon in early November, and you hope in this tournament of utter chaos that you get a good final. Yeah.
This isn't a good final. This is an all-time final.

Speaker 3 This is the first time that we have multiple seven-foot starters in a national championship game since Patrick Ewing versus Hakeem Alajawan in 1984. Whoa.
This is a title game 40 years in the making.

Speaker 3 Purdue fans have waited their entire lives for this moment. For UConn fans, it's another year.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 And then obviously the story of whoever ends up winning, you have maybe one of the best basketball teams ever if UConn can do it. Like the stretch that they've been on.

Speaker 6 And then Purdue trying to respond from getting bounced last year in the first round. Yeah,

Speaker 1 let's do the big picture because I would say if Dan Hurley wins this, that's the best two years of a coach of all time, just because we haven't had a back-to-back since Florida.

Speaker 1 You obviously had back-to-backs earlier in college basketball history when guys stayed for a long time.

Speaker 1 But he will go, if he can win on Monday, he will go back to back after losing 75% of his points from the year before and changing over pretty much the whole entire roster.

Speaker 3 It's all-time stuff. You will have won each NCA tournament game if you win this game in commanding fashion.
Yep.

Speaker 3 If they win this game in commanding fashion, which I do think is possible, I know a lot of people are saying one possession, two possession game. I hope we get there.

Speaker 3 But the reason why I'm skeptical is because we thought that we would have gotten there multiple times on this 11-game run over the last two NCA tournaments for UConn, and they have won 11 straight tournament games by at least 13 points.

Speaker 1 18 straight

Speaker 1 neutral site or away site or neutral site games that they've won by double digits.

Speaker 3 It's crazy. And I thought Alabama, talking with some UConn staff members earlier today, I'm like, so what'd you think?

Speaker 3 And they're like, well, Alabama played even better than we we thought they would play. They shot 8 for 11 from 3 in the first half.
Mark Sears didn't miss a shot, and they were still down by 4. Yeah.

Speaker 3 That's how scary good UConn is.

Speaker 3 And I just think not only would Dan Hurley complete the ultimate two-year run, but in a sport that lost some of its biggest faces, if he wins the championship tomorrow, the idea that when people throw out Bill Self or Tom Izzo or Mark Few, it's not that I'm not listening, Hurley would put himself as the coaching face of college basketball.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I would agree with that 100%.

Speaker 6 You couldn't make an argument against it. What he's done has been, it's been incredible, especially like, you know, like we said, in this era, they just reloaded.

Speaker 1 They got better.

Speaker 6 So you can make the argument that this team,

Speaker 6 actually, put it that way: this team against last year's Yukon team, what's the spread on that game?

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 3 I would say this team by three. Yeah.
Yeah. It'd be tight.

Speaker 3 But I think with this year's team,

Speaker 3 to me, Tristan Newton's level of consistency throughout the whole season makes me believe even more.

Speaker 3 Newton did not have a great year last year.

Speaker 1 He had a good season.

Speaker 3 He's had a great season this year. He's been so consistent.
It's like last year never ended when this UConn season started.

Speaker 3 And as you said, they lose five of their top eight players from last year's team.

Speaker 3 I think that when you combine that with Alex Caraban being another year older, with Stefan Castle being a one-and-done freshman who has now emerged, you can't just play off Castle.

Speaker 1 No, that should be. He tried, yeah.

Speaker 3 They tried. Alabama tried that.
He made them pay. He took that personally.

Speaker 1 He did.

Speaker 3 I think the other thing is

Speaker 3 what makes me put this year's team as a slight favorite is that Cam Spencer is just insane. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's a mini hurley.

Speaker 3 He's a mini hurley.

Speaker 3 He's wired differently. You know, I was talking to him about tomorrow.
I said, so what will you do? I go, when you get 10 minutes back in the hotel room, Like, what app will you go on on your phone?

Speaker 3 And he goes,

Speaker 3 I'm going to watch more film. Yeah.
He goes, I'm going to watch. Like, you're a player.

Speaker 1 You're in bed.

Speaker 3 This guy's in bed watching more film of Purdue.

Speaker 1 It's crazy.

Speaker 6 And his tenacity, too, the way he was getting rebounds. Yeah.
Just crazy. That guy doesn't quit.

Speaker 3 He is. He is wired.
It's as if Dan Hurley made a human out of his image and likeness, besides his son, who he made in reality.

Speaker 1 42-0, by the way, when Andrew Hurley gets in a game.

Speaker 3 It's probably the best note in the business right now.

Speaker 1 You should start. We'll stack.

Speaker 1 You have put that out there.

Speaker 1 Yeah. We talked to him last week and we asked him, why don't you start him? He needs to take a shot.

Speaker 6 Let your son take a shot. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 And Donovan Klingen has been just insane. Like what he does, and that's why tomorrow night's going to be, or tonight is going to be so great because it's Edie versus Kling.
Now, on the Purdue side.

Speaker 1 It's just as good a compelling story because you have a team that lost to a 16 seed last year trying to get revenge for that.

Speaker 1 And also Purdue as a school, they are number one in NCAA basketball for wins in the tournament without a championship. If they win this one, it's like everything gets erased.

Speaker 1 And the Matt Painter and Zach Eady, and Zach Edie goes down as one of the greatest college basketball players of all time. It's crazy

Speaker 1 how many storylines are on both sides.

Speaker 3 Yes, a first national championship, all-time glory in West Lafayette. And for the Big Ten.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 We talk every year about the Big Ten and their title drought. And the Big Ten gets a bad rap as a result.
But at the end of the day, you have to show it in hardware.

Speaker 3 You know, if UConn wins this championship, the Big East will have had four of the last eight national championships. The ACC

Speaker 3 has two, and the Big 12 has two. That's it.
So for me, this is massive for Purdue because you do not know. First off, you're never going to have a player like you've got inside.

Speaker 3 They don't make, there's not a carbon copy of it.

Speaker 1 Purdue will figure out a way. Purdue gets it.
They actually do have a freshman who I think is seven feet.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 Matt Painter just, he's got a thing for tall guys. It is smart.
I mean, he's Zach Edo. He's been discussed a million times.
He is really fucking good at basketball and been dominant this run.

Speaker 3 Yes, he's been unbelievable. I just think in this current climate where everything changes in the offseason, I mean, it's utter ridiculousness.

Speaker 3 Right now, I'm doing a way too early top 25 for next season.

Speaker 3 I'm throwing darts at the wall because you just have to with some of the roster managers.

Speaker 1 Who's your 19th team? Oh, God.

Speaker 3 I think I've got

Speaker 3 UCLA.

Speaker 1 Okay, that makes sense. I like that.

Speaker 3 I like Nick to bounce back.

Speaker 1 Cronin's not having too bad. But not bouncing back too much.

Speaker 1 No, 19.

Speaker 3 19. Miami's in the mix there, too.
BYU, I don't think

Speaker 3 Mark Polk's getting undersold head into next season. You know, I've got more to come.

Speaker 1 More to come.

Speaker 3 I don't want to give away the whole weights.

Speaker 1 Top 25.

Speaker 3 Connecticut.

Speaker 1 Okay, smart. You know what? I also have to.

Speaker 3 I'm not getting fooled again. I'm not giving Hurley a chip on the shoulder this time.
I'm putting them number one because someone's going to have to take it from you and take that title.

Speaker 3 It's like in the spirit of WrestleMania, it's like the belt.

Speaker 3 At this point now, Connecticut has that belt. And on Monday night, Purdue is coming with their briefcase, and this is their chance.

Speaker 1 This is their chance.

Speaker 1 Spanta rips off like four or five WWE promos, a podcast appearance. I love it every time.

Speaker 3 I think that this will be

Speaker 3 something that we remember. Yeah.

Speaker 3 This clash of the Titans. And for Purdue, if Purdue wins this game, which I do not think that they will.

Speaker 1 But they absolutely can't. Like, it's not.
They have the recipe

Speaker 1 that could potentially beat UConn. Like, every other team I've seen on UConn's way, it's like they're Alabama last night, they had to shoot.

Speaker 1 They had to shoot 60% from three, and they also had to shoot like 43s. They only got like 20 off because that was obviously what UConn's plan was.
Like,

Speaker 1 Purdue is the only team that has at least the,

Speaker 1 when you look at it, could match up with UConn.

Speaker 3 I think a lot of people want to say with UConn, well, we'll make them shoot threes, and that's how we'll beat them. It's not just as simple as that.
You've got to have paint eliminators. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And Zach Eady is a paint eliminator, just like Donovan Klingen is on the other side. How this game gets called? It's Jeffrey Anderson.

Speaker 1 That's what I was going to ask.

Speaker 3 Jeffrey Anderson, Roger Ayers, Terry Ogles.

Speaker 1 All right, so what do we feel?

Speaker 1 Because my one concern is you go back to the last time we had a back-to-back champion, and it was Odin versus Joachim Noah, and they both get fouls very early in the game, and it kind of ruined what should have been a similar classic game.

Speaker 1 Can we turn fouls off tomorrow? Can we maybe let both big guys have seven fouls? I just, I'm so nervous that that's going to happen

Speaker 1 and ruin what we want to be a great game.

Speaker 3 I'm really nervous about it.

Speaker 1 I do not want it.

Speaker 3 Us, the sports fans, nobody wants this game getting decided by foul count. I'm not even saying by free throws.

Speaker 3 Because look, if Edie gets hacked late in the game or if Klingen gets hacked and it's a legit foul and you're asking them to make two free throws, make your free throws, kids, then

Speaker 3 look, I get it. But please, for the love of all that is holy and all that is right, can we not

Speaker 3 Can we not be five minutes into the game and say, well, now Donovan Klingen's got to sit for the rest of the first half. It ruins

Speaker 3 the product.

Speaker 1 And it's like loose ball. Like, I don't want any

Speaker 1 fouls getting rebounds. Like, let them get rebounds.
Let them do that stuff. Let them get a little dirty in there.

Speaker 1 I agree with you. If you hack them going for a shot, that's fine.
None of the ticky-tack stuff.

Speaker 6 Like, when DJ Burns committed that foul on the fast break last night, right off the bat, and you're like, well, the game, the game was a good idea.

Speaker 1 That was bad positioning by DJ Burns. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 6 No, he definitely committed a foul. But at that point, every sports fan watching that was like, well, this game's probably over now.

Speaker 3 And the players don't want that.

Speaker 1 Right. Because

Speaker 3 if I'm a player on the team, which I very much am not, not, but if I...

Speaker 1 Hurley could absolutely get a solid like three points, four rebounds out of John Phantom. I believe it.

Speaker 6 Phantom checking in for the last 36 seconds of the game.

Speaker 1 St.

Speaker 3 Bernadette, Westlake, Ohio. Most threes made in a single game in the Catholic youth organization.
I made eight of them.

Speaker 1 Whoa. How many did you shoot?

Speaker 3 Against St. Ray Fields, put them in a bodyback.
28 points. How many did you shoot? Probably shot 13 that night.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's eight for 13. That's great.

Speaker 6 Are you still wet? Can you still play?

Speaker 1 I saw a clip of you shooting at Providence.

Speaker 3 I could still shoot the basketball.

Speaker 6 Yeah, we give you 30 shots. How many do you make?

Speaker 3 Right now, like just going in blindly, I would probably say I could make 12.

Speaker 6 We got to get you in the office.

Speaker 1 We got to get you in the fancy office.

Speaker 3 I would happily come in and show off this shooting stroke. It is not a, there's nothing patented about this.

Speaker 1 No, I saw it. It was ugly, but it went in.

Speaker 1 It doesn't matter. Right.

Speaker 3 They don't ask you how you got there. Yeah.
If the ball goes into the hoop, that's all that matters.

Speaker 1 Yeah, how many, not how. Yeah.

Speaker 3 So I could probably, anybody could play for Dan Hurley right now. You could check in and give something.

Speaker 1 I'd give him a couple. I'd hack Zach Eady.
I probably actually would foul him. I'd probably be able to stop him.

Speaker 6 That's the thing about UConn, though. So if

Speaker 6 even Klingen gets in foul trouble early, what's his name? Johnson?

Speaker 1 Pretty good defender, right?

Speaker 3 So he's the X Factor of the game.

Speaker 3 I think we could come out of the game saying Samson Johnson is the man who emerged.

Speaker 1 That's why UConn's number one in John Fantas early two top 25.

Speaker 3 Yeah, sometimes what happens is, you know, I'm going to take it from the wrestling to a little bit of superhero. Like to set the series up for future episodes,

Speaker 3 a new man wearing a cape comes out of nowhere.

Speaker 3 And it feels like Samson Johnson could be that type of guy in this game. You know why? He can run the floor, runs the floor like a deer.
He can fly above the rim. He throws down some thunderous dunks.

Speaker 3 He leads UConn in dunks. Like, he's got over 60 dunks on the season.
This kid's had a massive year in that column. And I just think he causes a wrinkle.

Speaker 3 That's the thing with UConn.

Speaker 3 They answer every single question.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I've been saying it from the start of the season. Every single question that you can throw at them, they have a solution for.
Because they can beat you any different way.

Speaker 1 Their guards are so much bigger than most teams' guards, especially tomorrow or tonight. And you throw something at them.
They're like, all right, we got this. We'll adjust.
We can play this style.

Speaker 1 We can play this style. We play up.
You want to play up tempo? We'll play up tempo. You want to play slow? We'll play slow.

Speaker 3 They'll play Manhattan head coach John Gallagher. I had Manhattan's game against UConn on Black Friday earlier this season.
And ahead of the game, he said,

Speaker 3 you always knew playing Dan Hurley that you had to beat him in a bar fight if you were going to win. You always had to...

Speaker 3 You always knew you were in for a bar fight.

Speaker 3 He goes, now when you're facing Hurley, you've got to win a bar fight, but before that, you have to go to the library and study tirelessly you've got to beat him in a textbook war and a bar fight you know what it is it's like watching chess boxing you ever seen that they go out there they fight then in between rounds they sit down they play chess for five minutes so what is so what is matt painter doing it's a great sport i've never have you played it you would i've never played it but i've watched well you could play that when you come to the office yeah okay i never played a game of chess in my life have you boxed really

Speaker 3 uh i have boxed

Speaker 1 you never played chess you probably were golden gloves

Speaker 1 the legend of fanta Look at that. Look at that.
People who are watching the podcast. Look at Fanta.
Throw those things around.

Speaker 3 This is going to be a boxing match on Monday night.

Speaker 1 What does Matt Painter do if

Speaker 1 he's got to go to the library? What is his solution?

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 3 I would not reference what Brad Underwood's library visit was because I don't think I'm trying to think of what you could do.

Speaker 1 Look, Brad Under. Brad Underwood was reading children's books, and then he came out and he was like, what?

Speaker 3 Don't just read Cam Jansen to get ready for a hard test.

Speaker 1 Remember Cam Jansen?

Speaker 3 I don't like pray, you know, but the Big East has the meatball prayers and hoops down as we talked about last year.

Speaker 3 I just, I think you've got to,

Speaker 3 you have to say, how do I do something to get Hurley to blink?

Speaker 3 Like, I don't even know if,

Speaker 3 and I think some coaches would totally scoff at me.

Speaker 3 But you're telling me that who's to say you're going to stop a man-to-man every trip down? Nobody's been able to do that.

Speaker 3 Could you throw in a 1-3-1? A little zone? I'm not even saying you do it often.

Speaker 6 But you just make him be like, what's going on here? Pause. You make him make an adjustment and feel possession.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 3 In basketball, it's different from football. Like,

Speaker 3 we know

Speaker 3 the big game and a football coach, a head coach who does something totally unorthodox and it comes back to bite them because they ran one fake punt or one thing that they haven't run all season long, lifelong Browns fan here.

Speaker 3 I know the the feeling. Where you're like, where did that come from? That's not in the playbook.
But in basketball, it's different. Like, you could try something for a possession.

Speaker 3 It could go miserably wrong, and it's okay. You gave up a two or a three.

Speaker 3 I just wonder if Painter reaches into his bag and does something totally unorthodox.

Speaker 3 I would watch the last two years of UConn Creighton games. I'd watch Greg McDermott and how Creighton played UConn.

Speaker 1 What about Edie at the point?

Speaker 1 Get clinging away from the basket. Have Edie bring the ball up.
The image.

Speaker 1 We're doing some crazy shit. Let's do some crazy shit.

Speaker 3 The crowd pop.

Speaker 3 The crowd pop of Purdue inbuying the ball and Edie dribbling the ball before slowly.

Speaker 6 Like bouncing the ball six feet in the air.

Speaker 1 I mean, he's got clinging.

Speaker 6 What if he's like the professor? He starts going between his legs. What if he could do it?

Speaker 1 You learned something about him. We never knew.

Speaker 3 He got insulted at media availability on Sunday because someone said to him, you know, you're the traditional postman, and how much do you just embrace that?

Speaker 3 Where the NBA, the three of the best scorers, three in the MVP race are all big men, are all seven feet taller or larger. And how much do you think that that's,

Speaker 3 that you're sort of throwing back the clock? He goes, whoa, whoa. He goes, I can shoot the ball.
He goes, watch me shoot free throws. He goes, I can shoot the three.

Speaker 3 He goes, it's just what Coach Payner asked me to do.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I believe it.

Speaker 1 I've been very,

Speaker 1 we've had the discussion ad nauseum. I don't love watching Purdue play basketball, but anyone who diminishes what Zach Edie's done on this run is stupid.

Speaker 3 Bold prediction for Monday night. Okay.
Donovan Klingen makes a three.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 6 Is that coming from anywhere or just the back of your head?

Speaker 1 He's just fancying right now.

Speaker 1 I could see.

Speaker 3 No, it just came into my mind.

Speaker 1 That's fancying.

Speaker 6 It was a fantasy.

Speaker 3 I just think Klingen has hit threes. Yeah.
Not many. But I could see a high ball screen, and instead of rolling, he slips back.

Speaker 1 Make him respect it.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 makes Edie pay for going all the way down there.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. I know what that could do.
I want this to come to so bad.

Speaker 6 I could actually see Klingen taking the ball because he runs the court so well. He can get up and down, like send him on the fast break.

Speaker 3 He does.

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Speaker 1 The one interesting thing, though, with Klingen is he does come off the court a lot. Edie does not.

Speaker 1 Edie is crazy the amount of minutes he plays as a big man. So like those non-Klingen minutes are going to be huge.

Speaker 3 That's why Samson Johnson is my key to the game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's a nice factor.

Speaker 3 I think he could prove to be big. I think

Speaker 3 the one interesting dimension to this game as well is that both point guards are coming off off nights by their standards. Braden Smith is coming off of the worst game of his college career.

Speaker 3 And Tristan Newton has had two performances in a row that make you say, hmm, what's going on here? He went three for nine from three. He was trying to find it.
He was forcing the issue a little bit.

Speaker 3 Nothing wrong with that, but I want to see which point guard ends up having the upper hand in this.

Speaker 6 Because Brandon Smith, he had a tough first half, especially, too. He had two backcourt violations.
Maybe he should have had a third one in there.

Speaker 6 I think the logo was so big that the point guards couldn't see it.

Speaker 6 It was an issue all night. They made the logo big.

Speaker 1 And everyone found out he didn't score because Charles Barkley. Yeah.

Speaker 3 That clip was tough. That was a tough moment for Chuck.
But the thing about Chuck is

Speaker 3 like, Charles Barkley can do no wrong in our world.

Speaker 3 I was thinking about this. Is there a more liked on-TV analyst in the sport? That's the best.
In any sport.

Speaker 6 John Fanta.

Speaker 1 John Fanta, SVP, Charles Barker.

Speaker 3 Charles Barkley. It's an honor.
Joe Buck.

Speaker 1 Those are the Mount Rushmore most liked guys

Speaker 1 right there.

Speaker 3 Booger Cam.

Speaker 1 Mobile. Yeah, Booger Mobile.

Speaker 6 Stanford Steve.

Speaker 1 Well liked. Yeah, big-time Stanford Steve, our guy.
I got some questions that aren't about tonight's game. Love it.

Speaker 1 Is Ed Cooley going to resign?

Speaker 1 I mean, there's a lot of chatter, Johnny. No, there's a lot.
I've seen a lot of people. No, no, no.

Speaker 1 Very good source people on Twitter.

Speaker 1 A lot of people I respect on Twitter have been talking about the resignation. It was a hashtag.

Speaker 6 It was trending. It was trending.

Speaker 3 Donnie Mexico and Lumpy Dumper do not count

Speaker 3 as reliable

Speaker 3 Twitter sources.

Speaker 1 You know, Providence Twitter. They got you to Windmill.
They did get me to Windmill. When are we getting the vest?

Speaker 3 I've got to find a vest.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 I've got the AD, Steve Napolillo, claims he's going to send me a vest.

Speaker 1 I hope they don't run small. Okay, all right.

Speaker 3 But vests can, you know, you order a vest online. That could be a tough bigger guy purchase.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 6 Wait, what's the vest demand that they have?

Speaker 1 They want him to wear the Kim English vest.

Speaker 3 So Kim English wore a vest. They then loved the vest.
And now they made the AD put the vest online up for sale, but purchases go to NIL. Providence's NIL has like,

Speaker 3 it's gone way up because these fans are just so out of control, but in a good way. In a good way.
I mean, not in a good way of like putting a movement together that actually produced

Speaker 3 public pieces, like actual forms of media about Ed Cool. He's not going anywhere.
He's at Georgetown.

Speaker 1 I don't know. He's got a boatload of NIL.
He's exciting.

Speaker 3 Next year's a big year for those Hoyas.

Speaker 1 I think there's a chance. Wait, it's not non-zero that he could resign.

Speaker 3 Do we have? Here's my thing.

Speaker 3 Why don't you just like, so? My only thing is, like, I don't, I'm not against, I think Providence's fan base is the wildest in college basketball, like the most passionate fan base right now.

Speaker 3 Right now, if I put power rankings together, they are.

Speaker 3 But you have a good coach in Kim English.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I like that they're not. But there's nothing better than watching the guy that scorns you just watching him resign.

Speaker 6 You have to send a message to

Speaker 6 every coach that comes through town in the future, like, don't leave. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You better not leave. We're going to gaslight you into resigning.
There's a a curse. Why are we gaslighting you to resigning? We're going to have Fanta doing windmills.

Speaker 3 I did do, yes. And I did a windmill.
I went off the wall. Yeah.
Someone said it really wasn't a real one. I'm like, well, I tried.

Speaker 1 That was my intent.

Speaker 3 That was one take. I was not going to try 15, 25 takes.
It was literally, that was, I promise you, if you went through my phone and looked through it, that was the one take I did

Speaker 6 of the windmill. So you're high on Georgetown next year.
Do you have them in your top 25?

Speaker 3 No, I'm not high on them. I think they'll be.

Speaker 1 Well, they're going to be looking for a new one. There's only one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. Right.

Speaker 1 I've just become a Providence Twitter troll in real life right now.

Speaker 3 Ed Cooley's not going anywhere.

Speaker 1 Maybe.

Speaker 1 You frighten me. Okay, I'm just saying.
It's not non-zero.

Speaker 1 It was non-zero. And then Providence Twitter got involved.
And it's at least 1% chance he wakes up one day. He's like, shit, am I resigning?

Speaker 6 Who do you think Georgetown should target if Ed Cooley does?

Speaker 1 Good question, PFT.

Speaker 1 Good question. Good lord.
Tim English? Who's a big name out there?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Imagine if they got Ed Cooley to resign and then they took Kim English.

Speaker 1 See, here's the thing.

Speaker 3 You've got the power that you could fire up the machine and say, because like when an opening, when a coaching vacancy opens, and as we are taping, Arkansas is looking for a coach.

Speaker 3 So like, people put out names sometimes that are never going to take the job.

Speaker 3 It's not going to happen. But then it becomes a thing.

Speaker 3 And names get, I love when this happens in the NFL all the time, like when a name just gets brought up and you're like, there's no chop, but the name's in there. Yeah.

Speaker 3 So we could just start having fun with it. Condoleezza Rice.

Speaker 6 Yeah, Condoleezza Rice. It was every time a quarterback.

Speaker 1 Please don't bring that up.

Speaker 6 Every time a quarterback would get hurt, it would be Brett Favre until like two years ago.

Speaker 3 My lowest point as a Browns fan, with all due respect, Condi, with all due respect, was when I opened up Twitter and read the words that the Cleveland Browns are giving consideration to Condoleezza Rice.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And that was off Hugh Jackson. Yeah.
It was at that point that I gave thought.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 The exact tweet was so funny, too, from Schefter.

Speaker 6 Brown's interested in

Speaker 1 Condo Rice

Speaker 6 for head coaching job.

Speaker 6 He got duped on that one big time. But still, the fact that there was like, it's kind of like the Ed Cooley thing.
It was a non-zero chance that Condoleezza Rice would be your head coach.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think it's actually very similar. Like, you can't say that Conde Lee's Rice had 0% chance, just like you can't say there's a 0% chance Ed Cooley doesn't resign.

Speaker 1 It's exactly the same.

Speaker 3 There's a 0% chance.

Speaker 1 No, there's not a 0% chance.

Speaker 1 No chance there's a 0% chance.

Speaker 6 Speaking of Arkansas,

Speaker 6 what do you think about USC getting the Musk bus going down there? I feel like that's going to be a good spot for him.

Speaker 3 Well, that makes USC basketball relevant. Yeah.
Makes it more relevant for me, the junkie, than Bronnie James at USC, just being honest. Just because, like, Muss is going to win.
He's going to win.

Speaker 3 He won at Nevada. He won at Arkansas.
He's been to four Sweet 16s and three Elite Eights.

Speaker 3 He's a winner. The guy is, he's got a killer mindset.

Speaker 3 Things run their course. Like the end of the Arkansas era, I do believe this, was more, it wasn't because of one bad year.
Like coaches have a bad year

Speaker 3 throughout their careers. He had one bad year.
He didn't get relieved of his duties. He wasn't beating anything.
I think, if you look at Muss, he has a lot of staff changes.

Speaker 1 He's not the easiest guy to work for because he's wired a certain way.

Speaker 3 He's wired to go out and beat the tar out of the opponent. But in the same way, that's how he coaches internally in his building.
I think he creates competition inside his building.

Speaker 3 He's going to make USC play with fire. USC-UCLA in basketball will matter again in the Big Ten.

Speaker 3 But I think USCUCLA, because Muss is going to say, Trojans fans,

Speaker 3 he's a uniter. He's a people, he's going to get people caring or thinking about basketball.

Speaker 3 Trojan fans right now, they haven't thought about it, I mean, they've struggled to fill up football on Saturdays. Now, Cronin versus Muss, two characters.
Good. Two fiery guys.

Speaker 3 That's going to be, that's going to be fun.

Speaker 3 It is going to be fun. I'm not the, I hate conference realignment.
I hate college. Like,

Speaker 3 we should celebrate stuff that's happening and think ahead. I don't want the NCA tournament changed at all.
No, no, it's true. But I'm okay with

Speaker 3 USC traveling to Ohio State on a Wednesday night.

Speaker 1 Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 Speaking of coaches, is Luke Murray going to get a job so soon? Well, I think he's going to be. I want to know where Bill Murray is going to end up.

Speaker 3 Right. Where is he going? Yeah.

Speaker 3 I think for now, it's probably Groundhog Day in stores. Oh, that's good.

Speaker 3 But only because UConn keeps on making it this far when a lot of the vacancies get taken. But you never know, Luke's more than ready to be a head coach, as is Kamani Young.

Speaker 3 Kamani Young and Luke Murray are ready to be head coaches. And Tom Moore, who was at Quinnipiac and kind of combines the old with the new, he was with Jim Calhoun.
Now he's with Hurley.

Speaker 3 Hurley made Tom Moore a painting. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Dan Picasso Hurley.

Speaker 3 I think that when you look at that staff, that's the other thing with UConn. Like, Luke Murray should be a head coach.
He is more than ready to be a head coach, as is Kamani Young.

Speaker 3 But they keep going so deep into April, they're almost a victim of their own success. Yeah,

Speaker 6 it's bad for them.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 so staying on the coaching, Cal's back for one more year.

Speaker 1 If they go out the way they've gone out, I would imagine it would be the end. Right.
Who would take that job? We had our friend Matt Jones on. He said it'd have to be a rock star.

Speaker 1 Jay Wright comes to mind.

Speaker 3 It's not going to happen. Nate Oates.
Could happen.

Speaker 3 Nate Oates could happen.

Speaker 1 What about the buyout?

Speaker 6 How ironclad are these buyouts?

Speaker 3 Well, it depends the internal language of the contract. Like, obviously,

Speaker 3 but

Speaker 3 I also think

Speaker 3 this whole notion that Kentucky couldn't pay the 34 mil. Yeah.

Speaker 1 There's always phone calls.

Speaker 3 Yeah, there's always enough money. Also, have we all not set up payment plans? Yeah.
Like, you know, figure it out. You could do installments.

Speaker 1 Right. Whatever it is.

Speaker 3 You know, it's like

Speaker 3 there's always a way to find money, especially when you're Kentucky.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 6 How close do you think they actually came to firing him?

Speaker 1 I think close.

Speaker 6 And then in the meeting, they decided that the head coach for life will remain the head coach for life.

Speaker 3 I think that meeting was all kind of fake.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 3 Yeah, I don't believe that.

Speaker 1 Did you think he cried

Speaker 3 in the meeting? Fake tears? Yeah, just to keep his job. Maybe like an emotional.

Speaker 3 I mean, Cal's very prideful. Yeah.
He's very proud of what he's built I think he thinks like if they had fired him look you owe me 34 mil and oh, I'm gonna go somewhere else and I'll just win.

Speaker 3 I'll win more than program X has won in the past. Right.

Speaker 3 You know, he's in a way what he built, he built it up to such an unbelievable level that then he's a victim of his, he's run its, it's run its course. It's overdue.
Right.

Speaker 1 Like the

Speaker 3 package of ground meat expired in the grocery store. Right.
Now,

Speaker 3 can you find a way to change who's stocking your shelves? Yeah, via the transfer portal. Like,

Speaker 3 you have got to go into the portal and buy the best players from the portal. Right.
Buying the best 17-year-old does not matter anymore.

Speaker 1 Right. Yeah.
You need to supplant it with, I mean, you saw with UConn this year when they bring in a guy like Cam Spencer.

Speaker 3 It's like, you got to get old.

Speaker 3 And it's staring you in the face. And also,

Speaker 3 you know, Cal

Speaker 3 to answer your buyout question, I don't think, I think there's always a way. Yeah.
I think there's always a way. TJ Osselberger at Iowa State.
His buyout's very high.

Speaker 1 You know, I want him at Wisconsin. I like Greg Gard, but I want him.

Speaker 3 They'd have to really pay some money. I know.

Speaker 1 I'm probably going to have to pay some money.

Speaker 3 You're going to dish him out.

Speaker 1 I'm waiting for the day.

Speaker 1 If it's a guy like that, I might.

Speaker 3 Do you have, could you win some money on championship Monday night?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I have a Yukon future to win $140,000.

Speaker 3 And what's that again?

Speaker 1 14 to 1.

Speaker 3 For them to what?

Speaker 1 Win the championship.

Speaker 3 Wow. When did you place that?

Speaker 1 December after they lost to Kansas. Yeah, I know ball.

Speaker 3 You know ball.

Speaker 1 Well, we haven't won it yet. So

Speaker 1 I know ball to get there. You got it.
Well, what about your Eagles' future? Yeah, I know what you're doing. You have an Eagles' future? A couple years ago.
What about your United States?

Speaker 1 I had UConn last year. What about your Ravens' future? Well, I had UConn last year, PFT.
If you're going to bring up all the bad ones, and we had UConn last year on this show.

Speaker 1 I had 10 to 1 on UConn last year.

Speaker 3 The start of the tournament, we talked. And we said, who could do it? We said Connecticut.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 You have been on.

Speaker 3 This group's been on track on the college hoops front.

Speaker 1 Yeah, as soon as they lost to Kansas, I was like, this team is still really good. And they're.

Speaker 3 Well, they played like a C-plus game and barely lost. Right, they barely lost.

Speaker 1 I watched the whole game, and I was like,

Speaker 1 that was

Speaker 1 a true road game, and they were in it, and they played like crap.

Speaker 3 What happened that night, too? Purdue lost at Northwestern. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 6 Interesting.

Speaker 1 It's interesting.

Speaker 3 They lost on the same night. Yeah.

Speaker 6 So give us the exact roadmap, the recipe, because we are glazing UConn pretty hard here. If you're a Purdue fan, you want to believe.
You want to believe you have a chance, right? So

Speaker 6 what would need to happen tonight for Purdue to pull this off?

Speaker 3 Well, I do think that Zach Eady getting Donovan Klingon in foul trouble is huge. I also think that Braden Smith

Speaker 3 orchestrating the game, controlling the way the game's played, is big.

Speaker 3 You know, the tempo of the game, I think UConn may try to run on Purdue a little bit, and I think it's important that Smith just calms the waters. I think it's critical for Lance Jones to stay as hot

Speaker 3 as he's been. He was terrific in the semifinal.
And I think Mason Gillis is an X factor to the game.

Speaker 1 He's their do-everything guy. He is.
And he can shoot the three. And I agree with you there.

Speaker 3 He's been very good from three. And he missed a couple of shots against Tennessee that he has not missed for much of the season.

Speaker 3 You can't have a performance where you're sitting there saying he missed some shots that he normally has made throughout the season. This is the national championship game.

Speaker 3 This is for all the Marbles.

Speaker 3 You're not going to win with a B game. You're not going to win with a B-plus game.
This is an A-game type of game. I do not think this is going to be ugly.
I think Saturday we had some ugliness.

Speaker 3 Let's be honest, it was not the most thrilling Final Four Saturday. But typically, when you get a couple of duts, there's a reason for that.
These two teams were destined to meet on this Monday night.

Speaker 3 If you're Purdue,

Speaker 3 if you are Purdue, this is your open window to look out to the sunlight and say, how do we find golden redemption?

Speaker 3 This is the golden redemption tour

Speaker 1 for the Purdue Boilermakers.

Speaker 3 And for that fan base, the player said, our fans have willed us to this point. If you are a Purdue fan, I do not care if you don't have a voice for the next month.

Speaker 3 Matt Painter said he would lose to FDU again if it meant he could be fighting for a national championship.

Speaker 6 That's what it's all about.

Speaker 3 Hollywood couldn't write this.

Speaker 1 No, they'd throw you out.

Speaker 6 They'd shoot you in the mouth.

Speaker 1 Man. They would.

Speaker 6 Fanta, we saw a video of you before the game yesterday walking into the stadium.

Speaker 6 How far of a walk did you have?

Speaker 3 Two miles.

Speaker 6 That's crazy.

Speaker 3 I think I walked two miles total because I stopped at a location

Speaker 3 near the stadium to do a pregame show, but then I walked a little, I had to walk all the way into the stadium. I got great steps in.
There's nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 3 March is my best month of weight loss of the year. Whoa.
Fun fact. Just by steps.

Speaker 1 You're just eating basketball.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah.
That's no, it's the truth. Yeah.
I'm just feeding on hoops, baby.

Speaker 1 I don't eat anything.

Speaker 3 You know, I'm feeding on hoops.

Speaker 1 I love it.

Speaker 3 And cutting out drive-thrus.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 3 I don't need it when I'm courtside.

Speaker 1 So, all right. So what else, what else we learned from the final four? The meet and greets? Did you go to the pump party?

Speaker 3 I waited in line forever and I never got in. So, I went over to the I went over to the bar scene and you should have called Bosco.
Oh, would he have been able to I saw him at

Speaker 1 Bottle Blonde or whatever, wherever it is, right?

Speaker 3 I saw Bosco in there. Yeah, he started talking to me about the portal.

Speaker 3 Your eyes glazed, though, he just starts doing a rant on Danny Sprinkle.

Speaker 1 I'm like, dude, like, oh, he's helping him put it in. I have another

Speaker 1 one.

Speaker 3 Bosco search firms. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 You sound like you're down on Bosco right now.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. I'm okay on Bosco.

Speaker 3 I've always been, like, Bosco and I have always been in a pretty good spot. Good spot.
I mean, I call him by his real name and we stayed friends.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true. That's on that.
That's a test.

Speaker 3 So, you know, I'd like to think that Rico and I are in good quarters. Yeah.
Well,

Speaker 1 it's hard because you're obviously a reporter. He's a coach.

Speaker 1 So it's like having that, you know, tug and pull where it's like you're trying to get information out of a guy like Bosco who's on all these coaching staffs.

Speaker 1 You know, he doesn't want to give it all up. But

Speaker 1 what is it?

Speaker 3 I think it is a tug.

Speaker 1 Tug and tug and pull and rub and tug. No, rub and tug.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 You're getting rubbed and tugged by Rico.

Speaker 6 Rico shows up and he's like,

Speaker 6 I'm doing media availability right now. What do you want to talk about, Facebook?

Speaker 1 Speaking of rub and tugs, how was your appearance on Wake Up Mincy?

Speaker 3 That was fascinating.

Speaker 3 You know, when I showed up to the waiting area for that show, I thought to myself, where are we going to go in this 35 minutes? But he really,

Speaker 3 it was a real morning show. Like, he made it.

Speaker 3 I was like, this guy has been through a lot over the last year.

Speaker 1 Oh, all his own doing. Yeah, right.
Right.

Speaker 3 Not any circumstances that someone handed to him. He did this to himself live on the air.
Yes.

Speaker 3 And it was a fascinating 40-minute discussion about college basketball. He asked some good questions.

Speaker 3 I didn't know if he had just woken up before the show started or what was going on, but that guy is one of a kind.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's a good way to say it. So, all right, so what does Fantasy's offseason look like?

Speaker 3 There is no offseason.

Speaker 1 Okay, but what do you, I mean, there's no offseason, but everyone gets a little, I get a little sad after Championship Monday, and it's just like, oh, man, I love college troops.

Speaker 1 What do you do in the months that aren't games being played?

Speaker 3 Well, I'll give you the first couple weeks, but I will give you my summer plan. Okay.

Speaker 3 Next week, I'm going out to the Jordan Classic to call the games for Fox Sports. So I'll call those Cooper Flag.
I get to see him. I know you'll talk about him next season

Speaker 3 for a variety of reasons.

Speaker 3 There's a girls' game as well, so I'll do that. I'll do that for Fox Sports next weekend.
I then will go from Portland, Oregon. I'll stop back to New Jersey briefly.

Speaker 3 And then I head to Detroit, Michigan for three straight nights of PBA and primetime on week nights. So yeah, you will see me on the Bonelink Circuit

Speaker 3 Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday of next week, just on FS1.

Speaker 1 Nights

Speaker 1 next week, okay. Detroit.

Speaker 1 We're going to be there for the draft for a little bit.

Speaker 1 I'm going to just miss you.

Speaker 3 What's that like?

Speaker 6 What's it like covering bowling?

Speaker 3 It is a blast. I love it.

Speaker 3 First off, I work with Randy Peterson, who's been doing PBA bowling for like 30 years. He is the ultimate, like just your buddy.
We'll go to the bar, have a beer.

Speaker 3 talk about nothing having to do with anything, you know, just hang out.

Speaker 3 The shows are fun. It's five players, typically a show.
So you just get to know them as people. We sit down with them and talk to them for 20 minutes.

Speaker 3 You can't possibly, I mean, you could, but like for me, we're making TV.

Speaker 3 So I want to hear about these people, what they do during the week when they're not bowling, who they are as people, because we're telling stories on the air.

Speaker 3 And some of these guys have fascinating backstories and fascinating second, third businesses. And then they do this.

Speaker 3 You know, the one guy two months ago, he worked at a penitentiary and he bowled on the side and he made an event. Like, I'm like, what are we doing here? This is amazing.

Speaker 3 So, I love, I do enjoy doing the bowling. It's fun.
And I've got a couple shows here in the springtime that'll keep me busy, along with some high school showcase events. Okay.

Speaker 3 I'll do the Jordan Brand Classic in Brooklyn. I'll do Peach Dam.
But what do I do? I do a bunch of draft stuff, NBA draft stuff. I do.

Speaker 3 What do I do in my downtime?

Speaker 1 Windmill dunks.

Speaker 3 Windmill dunks.

Speaker 1 Try to convince Ed Cooley that he shouldn't resign. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 I go down to Brick, New Jersey. Shout out down the shore.
I go down the shore with my wife.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 1 I love it.

Speaker 3 I love going down the Jersey Shore.

Speaker 1 Parker House.

Speaker 3 I haven't been to DJs in forever. But, you know, like,

Speaker 3 that's right on my alley. I go to Yellow Brick Road Ice Cream in Brick, New Jersey.
If you haven't been, Spanos for a pizza. It's living the life.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's good. You do it beautiful.
Do you do any travel?

Speaker 6 You ever go on an exotic vacation?

Speaker 1 Well, we said Jersey Shore if you have to do it. Well, we went to Italy for our honeymoon.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that is exotic. We went to Italy for our honeymoon.

Speaker 1 Pork roll or Taylor Ham?

Speaker 1 Taylor Ham. You're a Taylor Ham guy?

Speaker 6 Taylor Ham. Smart, me too.

Speaker 3 Love it. Yep.

Speaker 3 Went to Italy for the honeymoon. Didn't want to leave because of the pasta.

Speaker 3 Exotic travel. I mean, I go to Cleveland every summer.
That's.

Speaker 1 Hey, Cleveland's on the up and up. Kaylin Clark was saying Cleveland

Speaker 1 is awesome. They got the Eclipse tomorrow.
They got the Guardian's home opener.

Speaker 6 You just got to make people do a layover in Albany before they go to Cleveland every time.

Speaker 1 And they're like, is this rough it's like it's like when you go like a real estate agent takes you to like a really shitty apartment then they take you to a little bit nicer of apartment you're like wow go guards baby my guards are hot steven vote they're off to a seven and two start i just read the colorado rockies team era is over eight yeah they're not good they're bad there's your strategy with the a's i totally agree not going well right now we're not i don't want to talk about it right now tigers have the tigers tigers

Speaker 6 and then we're down 6-0 and then really oakland also mastered the art of losing games by one run So that's been tough for us. Well, we might have to

Speaker 1 re-evaluate. No, no, I'm sticking the course.
We're staying in the course.

Speaker 3 Will you go to a Sacramento A's game?

Speaker 1 No, but

Speaker 6 we will go to an Oakland A's game if we find ourselves in Oakland this year.

Speaker 1 Yes. Maybe.
Wallfire. Firm, maybe.

Speaker 3 But Cleveland, Pudden Bay, if you've never been, you two would love it.

Speaker 3 You two would, I'll do a couple nights in Pudden Bay with my wife.

Speaker 3 Just, yeah,

Speaker 3 I'm trying to think, nothing too exotic. I don't have plans to go to another country.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 3 But down the shore is more,

Speaker 3 you see a lot of characters, got a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 I'll go up to Rhode Island for a weekend. Nice.
I'll check out the Friar Faithful in Narragansett or

Speaker 3 Newport.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you probably don't have to buy a beer in Rhode Island. No.

Speaker 3 Friar Town takes good care.

Speaker 3 Federal Hill.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 It's just classic. That fan base is one of a class.

Speaker 1 By the way, I should have said off the top, congrats on getting that write-up in the New York Post. Up and and coming.
What was the headline? Rising Star? Yeah,

Speaker 3 unexpected. Yeah.
No, it was. I'm very grateful to them.
Ryan Glaspiegel did the piece. Yeah, we know him well.
Very, very nice piece by him, Ryan. Thank you.

Speaker 3 I'm grateful. You know, like real talk.

Speaker 3 I am very lucky to do this for a living, as I know you guys feel the same way.

Speaker 3 And I'm really happy to cover college basketball.

Speaker 3 I cover other things, but, you know, I grew up on the west side of Cleveland, and when you grow up in Cleveland, jokes aside, you live on the Browns, Indians now Guardians, Cavs, and I'm just, I'm lucky enough and grateful enough that I've got a supportive family and that I had two parents who taught me two things.

Speaker 3 One, you can control being nice to people.

Speaker 3 And two, you can control how hard you work. That's a great lesson.
You might not be able to control a lot of other things in life.

Speaker 3 In any industry, you're going to get picked over sometimes for another person to call a game. Somebody once told me, John, only one person gets to do play-by-play on a game.

Speaker 3 Ion Eagles worked his entire life to call a game like he gets on Monday night. And that's really cool and really special for him.

Speaker 3 And I'm happy for him because he's great at calling a game and he's worked and earned this opportunity.

Speaker 3 I'm really grateful that people care enough to give a damn about what I have to say. And I appreciate you guys.

Speaker 1 We appreciate you, Johnny. Yeah, you're the best.
All right, I got one last question.

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Speaker 1 Can you give us one more

Speaker 1 wrestling promo for tonight's game?

Speaker 3 This is what we live for. Connecticut and Purdue.

Speaker 3 One from what they call the basketball capital of the world, stores, from the farmland where basketball is everything throughout the winter months.

Speaker 3 The other school out of West Lafayette, they have hoped and dreamed of this moment, and now it is here.

Speaker 3 The Boilermakers have made their way to the desert with their eyes on the prize behind a T-Rex in Zach Eady, who has dominated this sport in a level that we have not seen in quite some time.

Speaker 3 But on the other side is Kling Kong. Donovan Klingen is ready to go.
It's Purdue and Yukon.

Speaker 3 The best two teams in college basketball all season long. Grab your popcorn.
You don't want to miss it.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'm ready. We got to send that to CBS right now.

Speaker 6 I'm so pumped.

Speaker 1 All right. All right.

Speaker 6 So give me two final scores. UConn wins, and then Purdue wins.
What is the final score for each?

Speaker 1 We'll cut out whichever one

Speaker 1 is wrong.

Speaker 6 Well, the show comes out. Yeah, put in a game.

Speaker 1 Retroactively. Retroactively.

Speaker 3 I was going to say,

Speaker 1 whichever one you're wrong, we'll put out the one that's right.

Speaker 6 We swear. So two scores.

Speaker 3 Yukon, 83.

Speaker 3 Purdue 70.

Speaker 1 83, 70. Okay.
Okay.

Speaker 6 I like that.

Speaker 3 Purdue, 78. UConn, 75.

Speaker 1 Whoa. Okay.

Speaker 3 Fletcher Lawyer makes a game-winning three.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 1 Both would be incredible. Donovan Klingen, over a half three-pointer.

Speaker 1 Hammer it responsibly. Yes.
I don't even think they offer it.

Speaker 3 No, probably don't.

Speaker 1 No chance. No chance.

Speaker 3 And Dan Hurley cries.

Speaker 1 Win or lose?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.
All right.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 that's the lock of the century, Dan Hurley.

Speaker 3 I would say I think he's a very emotional man. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We love him.

Speaker 1 He's become a very good friend of the show.

Speaker 3 I love it. I love it.
You guys had a lot of coaches on throughout the recent weeks, which has been really cool. The Coach Petino stuff was great.
I'll also see Coach Petino at some point.

Speaker 3 during the summer. Okay, hopefully some sort of down the shore.

Speaker 1 And you got

Speaker 1 to Marinac or New York, you know, New York area, long island style we need a trip to chicago you need to get to chicago so we can get johnny fanta getting wet that's where we're going listen when we put that video out just says johnny fanta gets wet he's gonna do numbies i forgot to tell you one other off-season activity made me my first off-season activity I'm seeing Joel at the garden.

Speaker 1 Oh, nice. I thought you were going to say come to Chicago.
Before it ends.

Speaker 1 That was literally the whole time to be like, I'm coming to a Cubs game. Instead, you're like, another New York thing.
I'll come to Chicago.

Speaker 1 It's a new era of DePaul basketball with Chris Holtman leading. All I'm going to do is win like three Big East games, and it'll be good.

Speaker 3 It's going to happen. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, last, last question. Kyle Neptune.

Speaker 1 Big ear. Okay.
Big ear.

Speaker 3 It's a big season here for Coach Neptune and Villanova. And

Speaker 3 look, you already loaded up in the portal.

Speaker 3 Last year, it obviously did not go correctly.

Speaker 3 They've got to take a hard look at things here and bounce back next season because you can't go a decade of making the nca tournament and making runs in the nca tournament then miss it back-to-back seasons it is time this upcoming year for villanova to get back to the big dance floor or else

Speaker 1 or else okay well johnny fanta you're the best we love you thank you so much for coming on thank you guys

Speaker 6 so Y'all know that we're big fans of Cracker Barrel. And this holiday season, I will be sat at their table with a big plate of country fried turkey.

Speaker 12 And Brandon, I'll be right there with you, and I'll check it off my Christmas list in the country store while I'm at it. It'll make a nice holiday tradition.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's so cute of you.

Speaker 12 Enjoy all the more holiday traditions only at Cracker Barrel.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's wrap up the show. We got Eclipse.
The Eclipse. Let's talk some Eclipse.
I also have a Monday reading for us. Okay.
We want to do that.

Speaker 1 I'm pumped for the Eclipse.

Speaker 6 I'm very excited.

Speaker 1 I'm very pumped for the Eclipse.

Speaker 6 I'm not excited for the Earth to end because apparently that's going to happen. Oh, no.
Like

Speaker 6 first, they're going to take out the cell phone service. Then they're going to overload the the electrical grid, then the National Guard is moving in.

Speaker 2 Fuck. What do you know about CERN?

Speaker 6 The CERN, the particle collider.

Speaker 1 That's the fourth dimension. Oh, is that the fourth dimension?

Speaker 1 So explain it to us, Hank.

Speaker 2 Well, I've done some extensive research this morning while I was hungover laying in bed.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Go on.

Speaker 2 CERN is

Speaker 2 like an Illuminati-type company.

Speaker 1 Is it a company?

Speaker 6 I think it's a company. I think the CERN.
Let him cook.

Speaker 1 Let him cook. Let him cook.
Let him cook. And what's it?

Speaker 1 He's done extensive research.

Speaker 2 research it's a particle expander collider okay and they're gonna apparently nasa's launching rockets at the same time as the eclipse huh huh interesting and they're turning cern on the day of the eclipse and i believe the research is uh

Speaker 2 they're trying to reach a fourth dimension where where is cern located there's one in tennessee on the in the in the route

Speaker 6 is this is that true

Speaker 2 From the from the research I've done.

Speaker 1 From the research he's done.

Speaker 6 So what would you say to the haters out there that have said that the CERN Particle Collider actually got turned on in March and it's located in Europe?

Speaker 2 I think there's multiple CERNs.

Speaker 1 There's multiple CERNs. Okay.
CERN's second CERN. I think there might be one.
There's one in Chicago.

Speaker 6 There's a CERN in Chicago.

Speaker 1 Are they going to turn that one on? I don't know.

Speaker 6 I'm just glad that we're in Arizona.

Speaker 6 We're not going to be there for the eclipse. Our sun's going to be perfect.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 isn't this where the aliens will show up? I think it's one of those things where once

Speaker 2 the moon covers the sun,

Speaker 2 when it comes back, we'll be be in the fourth dimension.

Speaker 1 Fourth dimension.

Speaker 2 Like everything will be different.

Speaker 1 That's Earth 40.0.

Speaker 2 That's outside of the eclipse.

Speaker 1 And this, you came to the conclusion when you were hungover and probably felt like shit, and you were like, please, someone take me away. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I was like, it doesn't matter how I feel. You're right.

Speaker 2 Because it's over on Tuesday anyway.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 6 It's interesting because they tell you, like, don't look at the eclipse. What are they trying to hide? What don't they want you to read?

Speaker 2 Why is

Speaker 2 NASA launching rockets same day?

Speaker 1 This would be a very new, interesting twist on my long sorted

Speaker 1 affairs of losing futures. Yeah.
Having this just end right before the game.

Speaker 2 I'm going to call Jerry, though. I think we got to get on the same page.

Speaker 6 He probably knows. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Call him right now. See what he has to say.
He's probably, he hasn't slept, I don't think.

Speaker 6 I've never understood why you can't look at an eclipse.

Speaker 1 Because well, in the memory, Trump raw dogged it. Yeah, that's awesome.
He gave the thumbs up. He raw dogged the shit out of that eclipse.

Speaker 6 Tougher than the sun, the fucking sun.

Speaker 2 Yo,

Speaker 2 we're recording PMT right now. You're live to tape.

Speaker 2 What do you know about CERN?

Speaker 1 Wait, what?

Speaker 2 What do you know about CERN?

Speaker 1 Stern?

Speaker 2 C-E-R-N. CERN.

Speaker 1 Our two best minds are on this. C-E-R-N.

Speaker 1 Nothing. I don't know what's.
All right, well, then ask him what about the eclipse? How it's going to.

Speaker 2 What do you know about the eclipse and the fourth dimension?

Speaker 1 I don't want to get into that. No, you got to get into it, Jay.
I'm very overwhelmed, man.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 2 Well, I don't want to put too much on your plate, but I would look in the CERN.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 There's something there.

Speaker 1 Jerry, Jerry, Jerry.

Speaker 13 It's probably going on now 29 hours, 30 hours.

Speaker 1 Okay, so

Speaker 1 what's the concern?

Speaker 1 It's a lot of things.

Speaker 13 I don't think anything with the eclipse is going to really... mess things up.
I'm more concerned about a couple months from now what's really going to happen.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 What is? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 um,

Speaker 13 cyber attacks. I mean, I'm talking to this one guy right now.
You know, people, I don't want to get into it.

Speaker 1 No, no, you got to get into it. You got to get into it.
You got to get into it.

Speaker 13 Well, people think I'm going crazy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, that's fine.

Speaker 1 That's fine. You are.
It's fine.

Speaker 13 I met a guy on a plane. Okay.
And it was my first time ever flying first class.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 13 People say I was in row 27. It was my first time ever in first class.
I treated myself. I sat next to next to a guy who was very, very wealthy.
We talked the whole entire flight.

Speaker 13 He's a higher end for a major, major software company.

Speaker 13 And, you know, we just became friendly. And, you know, it was just text back and forth, happy holidays, stuff like that.

Speaker 13 And then, you know, the other day he sent me that message and asked him to kind of get deeper for me. And

Speaker 13 he just pretty much said, like, I know too much, but I don't at the same time, took, which to me means he knows everything.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 It sounds like he doesn't want to scare you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he doesn't want to scare you. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 13 And, like, you know, just stuff with the power grid. I mean, the power grid hasn't been updated in 75 years.
I mean, 70, 75% of it is

Speaker 1 ancient.

Speaker 13 You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 So, what do you think they're going to do to the power grid?

Speaker 13 I think that's going to come

Speaker 13 when they want Joey in office.

Speaker 1 Okay, all all right.

Speaker 13 When their back's against the wall and they know that's when something will happen.

Speaker 6 Yeah, Joe gets out to like an early lead in Wisconsin, then the power to the votes goes down.

Speaker 13 Building bunkers. I mean, it just gets deep down.

Speaker 1 Yeah, CERN. Yeah, this is all right.
So I would, my only recommendation is do not sleep.

Speaker 1 Because it seems like,

Speaker 1 yeah, but the more you don't sleep, the closer you get to the truth.

Speaker 13 You're actually right, honestly, about that, because I've got like a lot more information today.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so sleep is your enemy.
They want you to go to sleep.

Speaker 6 When you go to sleep.

Speaker 13 And the reason I stopped answering PFT was there was a part of me where I feel like when we were texting, the language seemed like he thought I was going crazy.

Speaker 1 No, I told you to get some sleep.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I just wanted you to sleep, Jerry. Yeah, he wants you to sleep, but I don't want you to sleep.

Speaker 13 Yeah, I don't want to give him too much info.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's smart. He can't be trusted.

Speaker 6 That's not true.

Speaker 1 Okay, Jerry.

Speaker 6 I just told Jerry, try to get some sleep. If Shick does go down tomorrow, you need to be rested.

Speaker 1 I was trying to help you.

Speaker 1 Pretty much meant, Jerry, you're going crazy. Yeah, he's trying to get you to sleep.

Speaker 1 He's probably part of the Illuminati. He's like, we got to get this guy to sleep.
Don't sleep.

Speaker 13 Honestly, Dan, I wouldn't doubt that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I wouldn't either. So I'm giving you the correct advice.
Do not sleep. All right.
Okay. And Dave, Erica answered me.

Speaker 13 Dave didn't answer me.

Speaker 1 What did Erica say?

Speaker 13 She believes me 100%.

Speaker 13 I showed Eric the messages.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right.

Speaker 1 Okay, Jerry. All right.
Don't get any sleep. All right.
All right. Bye.

Speaker 6 I love that theory. Like, when you go to sleep, that's when they reprogram your mind.
Right. Right.

Speaker 1 Sounds like it's pretty serious.

Speaker 6 Yeah. So I hope to do this podcast later this week.
Yeah. This might be the last episode ever.

Speaker 1 Damn. That would suck.
All right. You want your Monday reading real quick? I saw this.

Speaker 1 It's titled, I hate my homeowners association Facebook group.

Speaker 1 Here's a message that a woman sent to the Homeowners Association. Just a gentle reminder to please close your windows when cooking meat.
As a vegan runner, it is always hard for me.

Speaker 1 I try to go out running several nights a week around dinner time. When you are cooking with the windows open, the smell of meat can be quite overpowering.
Honestly, the odor is offensive.

Speaker 1 Please have empathy for your plant-based neighbors by closing the windows when cooking meat and only cooking vegetables if possible. I do not want to be a stereotype.
That's way too late for that.

Speaker 1 So I won't go into detail on why cooking animals is offensive, but I encourage you to do your research and join the movement with others who are fighting back.

Speaker 6 I love these groups. They're the absolute best.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 I was in one in Austin, and people would get on there and they would go out onto the sidewalk and they'd take a picture because there would be like a branch laying across and they'd be like, somebody should move this branch off the sidewalk.

Speaker 6 And they'd share it to the Facebook group. This lady is,

Speaker 6 she's got a pair of balls on it.

Speaker 1 She, I mean, the the homeowners association groups are like just like the seventh circle of hell.

Speaker 1 And just people, professional complainers always end up ruling those where it's like whoever complains the most gets the most power.

Speaker 1 I couldn't, I, I would be grilling on my, like in the front lawn every single day after this.

Speaker 6 Have a steak tree planted out front. Every single day.
I would raise, I would raise chickens and slaughter them. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Yeah, this lady's crazy, but you can actually, in some states, get fined if your neighbors smell your cigarette smoke.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's a real thing. That's crazy.

Speaker 6 I never heard of that. I feel like your odors, that's your property.
Yeah. Like, if somebody's smelling your steak, that's actually theft.
Right. They're stealing from you.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 If you want to smell bad, you can smell bad. Yeah.

Speaker 6 I would complain about the lady running stealing all my smells from my meat. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Those aren't free. Those aren't free.
No. Yeah.
Pay up.

Speaker 1 Do we have, is anyone in the office right now or no? For lottery ball?

Speaker 1 No?

Speaker 1 All right, we'll just do, what should we do? We forgot.

Speaker 6 Number generator.

Speaker 1 Number generator. All right, here we go.

Speaker 6 This is Mickey Mouse, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no one wants to win this. All right, number generator.
Numbers:

Speaker 1 eight,

Speaker 1 twenty.

Speaker 1 Oh, I think that's a Hank. Yeah, I think that was Hank.

Speaker 1 18.

Speaker 1 I'll go 71. Two.

Speaker 1 Two. Pick another number because it starts at two.
It's like on two.

Speaker 1 22. Okay.

Speaker 1 Memes, three. All right.

Speaker 1 69. Oh, wow.
Race is 69 tomorrow. Billy got it.
111. Billy got it.
If UConn gets to 69 first and they win, they'd be 111 games straight. Yeah.

Speaker 6 I've become obsessed with betting perfect scores.

Speaker 6 And when it hits, it's going to be amazing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Fantasy at 83.70. On Titus show this morning, I said 83.71.
Almost like that. Okay.
So which one are you going to go with?

Speaker 6 I think I got to go Fantas scores. Yeah.
That's fair. Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, we'll see everyone on Wednesday.
We have Max Holman, Brooks Kepka talking masters, and we'll recap the national championship game. Love you guys.

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