Chicago Bulls’ Alex Caruso, The A’s Moving To Sacramento, Stefon Diggs Traded And Tiger Stopped Having Sex

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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we have Chicago Bulls guard Alex Crusoe in studio. Awesome interview with Alex Crusoe.
It's been a long time coming.

Speaker 1 Great talk with him about the NBA, little March Madness talk.

Speaker 1 Awesome time with him.

Speaker 1 We got a lot of stuff we got to to get to. The A's are officially going to Sacramento.

Speaker 1 The NCAA is trying to stop UConn from getting to Phoenix. We have the Stephon Diggs trade.

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Speaker 1 Today is Friday, April 5th, and the NCAA is trying to screw the Connecticut Huskies.

Speaker 4 They're doing everything they can. The Huskies were delayed on the tarmac.
They had a plane issue. Or not on the tarmac.
There was a plane that was coming in from Kansas City.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 4 It got delayed. UConn didn't get out to Arizona until early this morning.

Speaker 1 3-4 in the morning?

Speaker 4 Yeah, so they're doing it. Mayor Pete, he's an Indiana guy.
Maybe he's thinking, throw the Huskies off Purdue. They beat him in the championship.
I don't know. There's a lot of stuff.

Speaker 4 A lot of stuff going on with the NCAA going after UConn. But fortunately for Danny Hurley, he he now has the fuel.
It wouldn't shock me if Danny Hurley actually delayed that flight.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 False flag. So, therefore, he could complain about this.
But, whatever it is, they've got motivation.

Speaker 1 They fucked with the Huskies.

Speaker 1 I know people are like, oh, well, that's two days ahead.

Speaker 1 That's the most important sleep.

Speaker 4 This is the sleep before the most important sleep, isn't it?

Speaker 1 I think it's

Speaker 1 Jack Mack, our colleague, talked to a sleep expert and said that when you go through time zones, it's a day per time zone.

Speaker 1 So three days to get feeling good, and they got there Thursday morning, so they won't feel good until probably Sunday.

Speaker 4 Okay, because Jim Harbaugh's stance is that it's the night before, the night before. Right.
Right? So this would be the night before, the night before, the night before.

Speaker 4 But you can't get a good night's sleep the night before, the night before if you got all fucked up in your head the night before, the night before, the night before.

Speaker 4 It's messed up.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's messed up.
They're trying to take down the Huskies. But yeah, we're getting ready for the Final Four.
We're going to be there

Speaker 1 in Arizona. So we will be on location.
We'll be at the game on Saturday night. We're going to be doing a watch party on Monday night.
Are you excited, Hank? Super excited.

Speaker 1 How many golf games you got planned?

Speaker 1 Just one. Just playing tomorrow.
Just one.

Speaker 1 We're going to top golf, too. That's for work, though.
Yep. Have to do that.

Speaker 4 Have to do that. And we were talking about maybe squeezing in the Tiger Woods putt-putt thing that he has out there.

Speaker 1 That's more like Location Scout. Yeah.
For maybe something in the future. Who knows? Oh, and we were also talking.
I wasn't invited to that. What is that?

Speaker 1 We haven't locked it in. Jeff D.
Lowe hit me up.

Speaker 4 Oh, okay. We were also talking about maybe doing a par three, but that's not golf.

Speaker 1 No. And it's not locked in.
Well, neither is top golf. It's golf, but it's not golf.

Speaker 4 It's not golf, but it is golf. It is golf.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So we're going to be excited.
We'll be out there.

Speaker 1 We'll get to our picks in a minute. Let's talk about some other things.

Speaker 1 The Oakland Athletics have officially announced that they are moving to Sacramento temporarily. Yeah.

Speaker 4 For, I think, what is it, three years and then a fourth-year option? Something like that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so we got all types of scumbags we got got to go through for this.

Speaker 1 You guys have heard us talk about how much we hate John Fisher, that fucking idiot. John Fisher got in front of the people of Sacramento and

Speaker 1 said that he is very excited to be able to watch some of the greatest players in baseball, whether they be athletics players or Aaron Judge and others.

Speaker 1 This fucking dude doesn't know anyone on his team.

Speaker 4 No, he doesn't. He just wants, he's selling the idea of good baseball players will play here.
Also, the athletics that I own will be here. And it's, what, a 10,000-seat stadium?

Speaker 1 15, I think.

Speaker 4 He said it's the most intimate environment in baseball.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so it's official. The grounds crew, I think, in the Coliseum didn't find, they found out via Twitter.

Speaker 1 This was obviously like, it felt like it was going to happen, and then it happened officially on Thursday.

Speaker 1 We also had Vivek, the owner of the Kings, total scumbag as well, because he bought the Kings to keep the Kings in Sacramento, which was an admirable move.

Speaker 1 And now he's just basically laundering the A's for them and being like, yeah, we'll take you for a few years.

Speaker 4 It's a halfway home before you go to Vegas.

Speaker 1 He also had a quote, Vivek, when I bought the Kings, I said that Sacramento would never play second fiddle to any other city.

Speaker 1 That makes no sense. You're literally playing second fiddle to Las Vegas.
And Oakland. And Oakland.
He's playing second season. You're getting a temporary.
Third fiddle. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's just a who's who cast the characters of people that you should all hate.

Speaker 4 And it's ridiculous the way this has been handled from start to finish.

Speaker 4 Obviously, it's been a cluster fuck, but the fact that they have to find a stadium to move to before they move to their new stadium is just absurd. Right.

Speaker 4 To just find a place that you can crash at, essentially.

Speaker 4 And it's not just for a season. That's what's crazy.

Speaker 4 They're going to be doing this for multiple years, staying in Sacramento all the while trying to design a stadium, which actually hasn't been designed yet in Las Vegas.

Speaker 4 It's a bad look for baseball. I'm going to say it.
Bad look for baseball, bad look for Rob Manford.

Speaker 1 Bad look for Rob Manford.

Speaker 1 Bad look for Vivek, the owner of the Kings, who, again, like the hypocrisy of being like, we're not going to let someone come in and take the Kings, and then just being the handoff for the A's. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Total bullshit. So, unfortunately, it feels like this is all going to happen whether we make a stink.
I mean, we're

Speaker 1 a small, small piece of all this. It's obviously the city of Oakland.
Our goal should just be for the rest of time is just to remind people that John Fisher is a fucking coward scumbag loser.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm okay with doing that.

Speaker 1 And they also, they have locked their

Speaker 1 tweets so you can't reply. They did that a while ago.
Yeah. But to tweet out being like, we're going to Sacramento and no one can reply, you're cowards.
You're cowards and you're losers.

Speaker 1 And you know what, John Fisher? You're rich, dude. Why don't you have hair? That's a good point.
You fucking idiots. He's very, very bold.
See, like, this is where we got to take it.

Speaker 1 I think we just got to take it to the personal level and just be like, John Fisher, bro,

Speaker 1 you can't get money for a new stadium and you can't get hair?

Speaker 4 Yeah, John Fisher, your family owned the gap.

Speaker 4 Then it looks like your teeth own the gap right now, bro.

Speaker 1 Get a dentist. Shit.

Speaker 1 I'm under Aaron Judge's favorite player.

Speaker 4 CNORTO.

Speaker 1 I also didn't realize, I was reading up more about John Fisher. He was, he bought a piece of the Giants back in the 90s to keep the Giants in San Francisco.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he bought the Giants and then he said, you know what, I'm going to buy the A's so that I can make money.

Speaker 4 It's a classic case of a guy wanting to prove that he can make money, but the only way he knows how to make money on his own without mom and dad holding his hand is to take mom and dad's money and then buy a guaranteed asset that's going to increase no matter how bad you fuck it up.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And then you can say, look, I did, I made something of myself.

Speaker 1 It's a classic failure. Fucking loser.
And I guarantee you, like, he should, he should have to be quizzed on his entire roster because there's no way. He knows his entire roster.

Speaker 1 And I wouldn't be shocked if he also thinks Brad Pitt works in his facility. He's like, where's Jonah Hill?

Speaker 1 I haven't seen him in a while.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's a sad state of affairs in Major League Baseball right now. And there's nothing you can do about it.

Speaker 1 Except say John Fisher is a fucking loser and has no hair.

Speaker 4 From now until the end of time, you can remind him that he's bald. Because guess what? That ain't coming back.

Speaker 1 Come on the podcast, though. We won't ask any bald questions.
I'll ask one. Actually, you know what? John Fisher, because you're such a broke boy.
I will pay for your hair restoration

Speaker 1 if you come on the podcast. So make that a quote card.
John Fisher,

Speaker 1 it it should say john fisher because you're a bald

Speaker 1 big cat will pay for your hair restoration for one appearance on pardon my take i think that's a fair deal that's a fair deal because he's bald take it because he's bald you bald bitch you alopecia no hair having bitch how much does that cost a lot like 50 grand he's really bald so probably a lot yeah but all that money's tied up and his suit wasn't even that good you own the gas gotta do a security deposit it's kind of like baggy looked like shit the collar was bad yeah the collar was bad.

Speaker 1 All-time collar. The collar was bad.

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Speaker 1 Okay, other things we've got to talk about.

Speaker 1 Stephon Diggs was traded from Buffalo.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think that this

Speaker 4 probably something that had to happen.

Speaker 1 I would say so.

Speaker 4 So he was not happy at the end of last season. He was not happy during last season, or really.
ever it feels like

Speaker 1 i think he started not being happy it was like the playoff loss to the Bengals. Yeah.
It was like basically an entire year of not being happy.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so he's unhappy. He had to leave town.
He's making a bunch of money. So they traded him to the Texans.
The Texans gave up a second-round pick in next year's draft.

Speaker 4 But they also took three years off his contract, I believe. So he's going to be a free agent.
It's a one-year rental

Speaker 4 ticket.

Speaker 4 Maybe it's coming home.

Speaker 1 I do love this move for the Texans. I think it's a genius move for the Texans.
They are basically going all in under C.J. Stroud's rookie contract.
This is what a team should do.

Speaker 1 Like if you're Texans fans, you should be really pumped, especially because C.J. Stroud's not a, like, if

Speaker 1 they were drafting a quarterback and be like, do you really want Stefan Diggs with a rookie quarterback? That feels like a problem.

Speaker 1 Because let's just be honest, Stefan Diggs is an awesome football player. But if you get traded twice in your prime, there might be, it might be you.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 It might be you. This is also a great business move on Stephon Diggs's part because he's going to get to be a free agent again.
Yeah. He's going to get paid again.

Speaker 4 And it's good if you're a Texans fan, too, because going into this offseason, you were probably thinking, like, best case scenario, we get maybe T. Higgins.
Yeah. If he doesn't get tagged, T.

Speaker 4 Higgins gets tagged, and you're like, well, fuck, that was kind of the big name that was out there. Now you've got a better player than T.
Higgins.

Speaker 1 And they have an awesome receiving court. They're all in.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 I just love that a team is being proactive with the fact that C.J. Stroud, outside of Mahomes, is probably the most valuable quarterback in the NFL next year.

Speaker 4 The guy that you would want to build around the most.

Speaker 1 Well, not even talent-wise. Mahomes is Mahomes because he's Mahomes.
Like you can just win with Mahomes no matter what. But I'm saying like C.J.
Stroud talent plus contract

Speaker 1 is probably number two. If you had to pick a quarterback and all contracts matter, you'd still take Mahomes one, even though he's getting a lot of money.
I think you'd probably take C.J.

Speaker 1 Stroud two because you're like, oh, I can build everything else up. And we have three years, four years here where he's not going to get paid this max money.

Speaker 4 It also marks a very big change in the Houston Texans philosophy. For years, they were great at drafting.
They've always drafted great players, but then they trade their players or they let them go.

Speaker 4 They never really bring in big name outside free agents. This is now like a complete 180 turnaround from what the Texans have done.
It feels like for the last 10 years.

Speaker 4 So they're actually going out there. They are being proactive.
They got Mixnet running back, right?

Speaker 1 Yep. Who I guess that's fine.

Speaker 4 I think he's a pretty good running back.

Speaker 4 And then you got Nico Collins. Nico Collins, Tank Dell, Dell.
And Stefan Diggs.

Speaker 1 A defense that's young and getting better. Credit to

Speaker 4 Nick Casario. Good job, Nick.

Speaker 1 I'm talking myself into the Texans.

Speaker 4 Yeah, well, that's the other thing is now we know who the team is going to be this offseason where it's the trendy pick of a team that they're going to say, like, who's your dark horse? The Texans.

Speaker 4 They shouldn't be a dark horse.

Speaker 4 They should be a pale horse. They should be like the team that everybody should be focusing on.
But everyone's going to talk this offseason. Like, my surprise pick for next year is the Houston Texans.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And now for the Bills,

Speaker 1 the Bills are not better without without Stephon Diggs. That's just a fact.
Like, they're not a better football team when Stephon Diggs is not on their team.

Speaker 1 But they had to do something, not only because of Stephon Diggs, but they've been in a cap-hell where they went all in the last few years.

Speaker 1 And, you know, even that Chief, like, the Chiefs have rebuilt on the fly with Mahomes and got younger.

Speaker 1 The Bills were a very old roster, had to make some tough decisions, had to cut some players, had to trade Stephon Diggs.

Speaker 1 I know people will get upset about this, but I still think that if you have Josh Allen, you still have a shot. Yeah.
I know, and people are like, this is so stupid, but like that,

Speaker 1 when you have a franchise quarterback, you have to reset and overturn your roster a couple times over.

Speaker 1 The Bills should be criticized for going all in with this older team that wasn't able to win a Super Bowl, but now this is a reality.

Speaker 1 They have to hit their hard reset. They have to make some tough decisions.
They can't miss on the draft, but that's just the reality of it.

Speaker 1 And even still, if you're a Bills fan, as doom and gloom as it might seem to trade Stephon Diggs, you have Josh Allen, and if you draft well, you'll still have a shot.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so with Josh Allen, he's probably going to be running the ball a lot at the start of next year until he can establish who his receivers are, who he trusts.

Speaker 4 Maybe Gabe Davis, maybe he plays every game like he plays. Not on the Bills anymore.
Not on the Bills anymore. Fuck.
Okay. You knew that.
I did know that.

Speaker 4 But he basically wasn't on the Bills for 75% of the game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I think it's Shakir as their number one right now.
Okay, so they. Well, and they also have, they still have Dalton Kincaid and Dawson Knox.

Speaker 4 That's true.

Speaker 6 They've got Curtis Samuel and Matt Collins.

Speaker 1 Matt Collins?

Speaker 4 Curtis Samuel's nice if you like doing pop passes and reverses and shit like that. They draft 28th,

Speaker 4 so I don't know if they're going to look to add a wide receiver.

Speaker 1 It is a deep wide receiver class. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Polk from Washington, he'll be there.

Speaker 1 I don't know. It's just like it's one of those, it's a hard reality.
It sucks if you're a Bills fan because Stephon Diggs didn't work out, but I think you had to move on because it was not tenable.

Speaker 1 And now you have to be like, all right, here comes the hard reset. Here comes a couple years where Josh is going to have to be superhero.

Speaker 1 and hopefully they're able to nail some draft picks and get a young roster around Josh Allen who will still play for a long time.

Speaker 4 And getting a second round pick next year is not bad. No.
Like that's a decent hold. There's not very many players outside of quarterbacks that would be worth a first

Speaker 4 round pick.

Speaker 1 The only issue is they probably waited to a point where it was clear that they needed to get rid of Stefan Diggs so their hands were tied a little bit.

Speaker 1 Like it was clear they had, like, you never want to be in a negotiating spot where everyone's like, oh, they really don't want him on the team anymore.

Speaker 4 Maybe a deal that should have been done last year. Yeah.
One year too late when you still had a Gabe Davis on your team. Yeah.
Yeah. Maybe bring Cole Beasley back.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I feel like Bills fans understand the reality of it that like you just, this is what happens when you have to pay your all-world quarterback.
Yep.

Speaker 1 And now you now you got to start making some good moves and some cheap moves and hopefully guys step up.

Speaker 4 I'd say it's a it's a win-win for both teams.

Speaker 1 I just think Stefan Diggs was like, he was causing, like, we talked about the D.Va receivers. He's number one right now.

Speaker 4 yeah the instagram king the instagram complete there's so many players i'd never understand why players do this why they like post something extremely inflammatory on social media on instagram on like their story and then they delete it after like an hour yeah and then they act like it didn't happen yeah oh yeah i don't know what you're talking about yeah i didn't know my phone got hacked yeah it was good though to see a big NFL trade yeah never happened flowing never happened they did they did the bills did sign uh Lael Collins so that was nice okay cool cool someone to protect yeah cool cool yeah good good but you know I'm saying like Josh is probably over the course of last year, he started to run the ball more, and their offense, they started to win games when they kind of played into those strengths.

Speaker 4 I think he's going to go back to that at the start of next year, especially if he doesn't have these dynamic downfield receivers.

Speaker 1 It is funny, though, watching some fan bases be like, that's the death of the Bills. I think that it's...

Speaker 4 As long as you have a top five quarterback on your team, you're never dead.

Speaker 1 And I think that because Mahomes is so great, everyone behind Mahomes gets diminished to a point where you're like, I think a lot of teams would still want Josh Allen.

Speaker 4 I want to start keeping track, too, of all the teams that go all in and still end up losing to Mahomes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's the thief of joy. He's the thief of Jejoy.

Speaker 4 There are going to be so many teams that go all in. They're like, now's our chance.
That's the last level. And Mahomes just keeps beating them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's the last level of greatness.

Speaker 1 Like, being great is one thing, but then when you get to that last level of greatness, Brady, Mahomes, you know, MJ in the 90s, where it's like you can actually point and be like, he took at least a couple Super Bowls from this guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Like Peyton Manning would probably have three Super Bowls if it wasn't for Tom, or four Super Bowls if it wasn't for Tom Brady.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the Niners, they were all in. Yeah.
Stole their joy. Texans are going to try to go all in.
Seems like there's a lot of teams out there. The Ravens, Dolphins, the Ravens have been all in.

Speaker 1 Although they lost a lot in free agencies. Yeah.

Speaker 4 They'll go all in again.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they'll figure out a way to go all in.

Speaker 4 The Chargers all in.

Speaker 1 The Bears are going to go all in. Did you see Kale Williams was in Chicago?

Speaker 4 The Bears are kind of all in. He went out to dinner.

Speaker 1 He went out to dinner with some players.

Speaker 4 He stopped by the facility, I heard. Yep.

Speaker 4 It'd be funny if they didn't draft him. If they're like, we didn't like his order.

Speaker 1 I mean, I'm going to paint my nails for draft night, so if we don't draft him, that's going to be a problem.

Speaker 4 Yeah, no, you guys are going to draft him.

Speaker 1 It's going to be a real problem for your boy.

Speaker 4 It's going to go Williams number one, and then who knows?

Speaker 4 Now we're in the thick of mock draft season where people are doing new mock drafts just so that they can have a different quarterback going at number two. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So people will click on it, and then they'll change it again right before the draft.

Speaker 1 Are you a little worried about Jaden Daniels' elbow?

Speaker 4 He's got a freaky fucking elbow. That thing is weird.

Speaker 4 He's got like a three-inch protrusion on his elbow.

Speaker 1 Well, elbow's not fine. Is elbow important for a quarterback? Nah.

Speaker 4 No, not the bursitis that he has. So obviously I did a deep dive on what the fuck is on his elbow because if I'm going to be rooting for that elbow, I want to know what's going on.

Speaker 1 You're going to have to get intimate with that elbow.

Speaker 4 I might have to just hit my elbow like you're painting your nails. Yeah.
I might just bash my elbow against a

Speaker 4 hammer to your elbow. Until I get a dick that grows out of the end of your arm.

Speaker 1 No, you can't be nervous. I'm not not nervous.
You said he's fine.

Speaker 4 Yeah, everyone says it's fine. It's fine.
It's a completely normal elbow.

Speaker 1 It's a fine-looking elbow.

Speaker 4 It's a good elbow, Hank.

Speaker 1 So it's a coincidence that it's his throwing arm?

Speaker 1 But you might end up with Jaden Daniels.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's Bursitis.

Speaker 1 No, I'm trying to find out more. I didn't understand.
Like, it seems... Read a book, Hank.
It's Bursitis, dude. How does one acquire Bursitis?

Speaker 4 By being too good at quarterback and winning a high spot.

Speaker 1 Throwing too much.

Speaker 4 But it's not a concern. By dominating people.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you got to get rid of it by throwing less.

Speaker 4 What happens if it gets worse? Oh, wait, so wait, Hank, so the other quarterbacks in this draft, the one that you're looking at right now,

Speaker 4 Drake May.

Speaker 1 You're looking at Cowboys?

Speaker 4 Do they have Bursitis? No, it sounds like they don't throw footballs that much. Jayn Daniels has Bursitis because he practices so hard.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 That's a guy I wanted my team.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm not going to bash him. I hope we get him.

Speaker 4 The new money ball is drafting a quarterback with a fucked up elbow that looks like a modern art sculpture.

Speaker 1 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 Did you guys see

Speaker 1 Harbaugh's strength and conditioning coach, who is a badger, Ben Herbert? Yep. See his

Speaker 1 introductory press conference?

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. I'll just play one little clip from it because it made me want.
I actually think that we should hire a strength and conditioning coach here. Like, I kind of want someone to come and

Speaker 1 kick my ass. But let me play this one clip.

Speaker 4 Hold on. Any get-back guy that just holds Mincy off from stepping in front of cameras?

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
Here it is. This is philosophy.
Stopping him from having conversations in the office.

Speaker 1 This fire you up?

Speaker 7 Training is that I don't know if there's two people that view it the same. There are concepts that different people believe in that may match up, but I view training in this way.

Speaker 7 And this is how I told it to the guys.

Speaker 7 My first goal is to make you harder to break.

Speaker 4 Yep.

Speaker 1 That's it.

Speaker 7 People often may.

Speaker 1 Just make you harder to break.

Speaker 4 This was also a great quote from Harbaugh today. So he said, the back is just an untapped gold mine of lean muscle mass.

Speaker 1 Ooh, I like that.

Speaker 4 I love that too. It does sound like he's looking at players like he wants to eat them, like he's evaluating a cut of venison.
Yeah. Like, that's such a gold mine.
I'd like to sink my teeth into that.

Speaker 4 But his whole point is that if you have a strong back, it supports your neck. That's what.
And then your neck supports your brain.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Ben Herbert said that we're like, the first thing I showed them was trap exercises to support their brain. He also talked about emotional

Speaker 1 intelligence. And I just love, this is the most like intense dude ever.
Here's what he said.

Speaker 1 Meaning, oh, Coach Herb got the juice today. He's feeling good.
He's happy. He's excited.
Well, then it rains.

Speaker 7 And I feel a certain type of way. Or, like I told the guys, I have a wife, two boys, two dogs.
I have a car with four tires. If I get a flat tire, I'm not going to take it out on you.

Speaker 7 If something happens, I don't change emotionally. When I walk in the facility, who you know me to be is who I am.

Speaker 1 Same guy all the time. All the time.

Speaker 4 Yeah. It doesn't matter if his wife's mad at him.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And just so we're clear, he's got two dogs, two kids, wife, four tires.
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 4 Right at the same level.

Speaker 1 All those matter just the same exact. And he's also tougher than the weather.
Yeah. He's like, if it rains, I'm not going to.
I don't know anyone who's tougher than the weather.

Speaker 1 If it's shitty out, you feel shitty.

Speaker 4 He's tougher than the weather. I like that.
He's going to be a force. I can't wait for Harbaugh to just do his press conferences.
We get all Harbaugh NFL content all the time.

Speaker 1 Because he doesn't have to be as careful, too.

Speaker 4 He doesn't. I hope he cheats, too.
I hope he brings some of that extra spy shit shit to the NFL.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Last thing I had was Tiger Woods isn't having sex.

Speaker 4 Isn't that what you'd say if you were having a lot of sex?

Speaker 1 Well, at first, the headline was like, Tiger, what was the actual headline? Because it looked like... From his friend.
It looked like Tiger Woods' penis actually wrote the story.

Speaker 4 So he's focusing on winning the Masters by not having sex.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Tiger Woods has eliminated sex while training for the Masters.

Speaker 4 It's until only recently that golfers have even started having sex.

Speaker 4 Back in the 90s, golfers were nerds.

Speaker 1 Isn't this...

Speaker 1 But didn't Tiger win when he was having sex? That was when he was Tiger.

Speaker 4 Tiger was at his best when his... But he hurt his back.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But that was also because he tried to be a Navy SEAL.

Speaker 4 But he also got his back blown out.

Speaker 1 That too.

Speaker 4 But Tiger was winning championships. He was winning majors when

Speaker 4 the grip of his putter smelled like absolute shit from his hands.

Speaker 1 Perkins, waitresses.

Speaker 4 The dirtier Tiger was, the better.

Speaker 4 He was getting it in the hole.

Speaker 1 Now he's going to not do. Maybe he just can't have sex because he can't walk.
Maybe.

Speaker 4 There's always like before the World Cup, there's always one Brazilian soccer manager that says, I've had my guys not having sex for three months now. Yeah.
They're ready to go.

Speaker 4 I feel like, I don't know, if Tiger.

Speaker 4 I want Tiger to be competitive, but if he doesn't play well, after he's spent the entire month not having sex, he's going to have so much sex with the next Masters.

Speaker 1 Eliminating sex, though, it just feels like the wrong thing for Tiger to do.

Speaker 1 He needs to be having sex.

Speaker 4 I had the Tiger. I want my Tiger fucking.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I want him just loose.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and the more he fucks, the more Charlie Woods we have.

Speaker 1 Who's next up?

Speaker 4 Next up. Next up.

Speaker 1 All right. Do we have anything else before we talk maybe a little picks on Final Four?

Speaker 1 Any other stories going around?

Speaker 4 Congrats to the Celtics for winning the Eastern Conference. That officially happened.
Now that the Knicks have.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we clinched the best record in the NBA. Nice.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Julius Randall not going to play anymore this year. So I think they were about 50.
They were about 500 with him out of the lineup.

Speaker 4 But people were saying if he comes back, they could be the ones that could threaten the Celtics in the East.

Speaker 1 So, who is this exactly? Julius Randle, maybe also just was like, I don't want to, like, last year went so bad. Yeah.
Maybe I just don't want to deal with this.

Speaker 4 Yeah, there's just nobody in the East at all. Am I, am I

Speaker 1 getting youtube?

Speaker 1 Oh, who else came back?

Speaker 4 Somebody else came back. What do you think about Joelle and Bi wearing skechers, Max?

Speaker 1 Who cares? They're sneakers.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.

Speaker 4 You want your guy wearing the best gear.

Speaker 1 I want my guy well supported from whatever company will support him the best. Okay.

Speaker 4 Sketchers just doesn't seem like

Speaker 4 that's a skateboarding brand.

Speaker 1 No, yeah, you can think that.

Speaker 1 I will. You can think that.

Speaker 1 You're entitled to your own opinion. He came back, Sixers without Maxie,

Speaker 1 beat the Thunder.

Speaker 1 They were without Shaykh Gilders without Alexander. But the Sixers are back.
Okay.

Speaker 1 By the way, Max, I forgot to say congratulations to the Villanova women for finishing third in the NIT. Second.

Speaker 6 No, WBIT.

Speaker 1 WBIT.

Speaker 1 So it actually doesn't count as a real second because it was not even the second tournament. That is.
Well, we had a debate.

Speaker 6 There's a WNIT and a WBIT.

Speaker 1 We don't know which one is. Yes, we do.
The WBIT is better. So they finished second.

Speaker 4 In the second place tournament.

Speaker 1 Yes. You finished second in the second place tournament.
Correct. Wow.
Like, this is what.

Speaker 1 Yes. You're just a walk.
Yeah, you're just. It's kind of like when when you buy a car and then all of a sudden you see your car everywhere.

Speaker 1 You're like, oh man, I didn't know how many people had this car. As soon as Max finished second once, we just started noticing.
It's like, he finishes second everywhere. All the time.
Everywhere.

Speaker 1 But anywhere you look, he's finishing second.

Speaker 4 That's a bad example because when you buy a car and you notice that car everywhere, it's not like there's a ton of those cars.

Speaker 4 It's just that you notice them more. It's like the whatever kind of bias that is.
With Max, it really just opened our eyes to it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and then people were all like the Little League video we put out the other day, I finished second in that.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. So I didn't know.
So people were reminding me of that the other day. Yeah.
Oh, man.

Speaker 4 David Buster's commercial we did.

Speaker 1 You guys finished second?

Speaker 4 Yeah, the

Speaker 4 science fair finished second. Fuck.

Speaker 1 Hey, memes, do we have. I was excited for that second.
Do we have an update on Mr. Pear?

Speaker 1 People want the Mr. We want Mr.
Pear bad. Yeah, I'm going to try to get it next week.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Him. Get him.
Mr. Pear.
Not it.

Speaker 8 I'm either getting a tortoise that we're just going to call a turtle.

Speaker 4 Here's what I'm worried about with the tortoise, though, memes. I'm told that tortoises can live like 20, 30 years.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but I would feel bad if a turtle, tortoise, excuse me, died after like six months if its lifespan was supposed to be 30.

Speaker 1 That was my number one

Speaker 1 worry about this from the start.

Speaker 4 Yeah, now if it's just a turtle and it does bad, we'll rip that shit up. Like, what was the turtle that was at Florida State? Turntle? Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, we'll tear that turtle in half if he stinks.

Speaker 1 Turntle got ripped in half by, what was it? Aguayo. Aguayo brothers.
Yeah. Yeah, one of the aguayos.
So you're going to get it next week? I'm going to try to get it next week. Maybe make a match.

Speaker 1 All right, so that means we're not going to get it next week.

Speaker 1 But yeah, wait, so you're going to get a tortoise or what's the other option?

Speaker 1 I was speaking to a zookeeper. He said, get a box turtle.
They're easier to take care of. And will a box turtle actually make picks for us?

Speaker 1 I think so. It eats pears.
It does eat pears. That's good.
Mr. Pear.

Speaker 1 Oh, Mr. Pears.

Speaker 1 Mr. Pear.

Speaker 1 We could just make the longest videos of him walking around the studio. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Where are you going, Mr. Pear? He's going to be a superstar.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I just love the idea of us just doing the entire weekend preview and Mr. Pears like, oh, he just made his second pick after 45 minutes.

Speaker 1 That's what we should do, too, with Mr. Pears.

Speaker 1 We shouldn't be like, Mr. Pear has to do five picks.
Mr. Pears should just get to do as many picks as he can do.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Let's not put so much pressure on Mr.

Speaker 4 Pears. Maybe he just likes one game.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 We'll just give him the option.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Mr. Pears game of the week.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Mr. Pear.

Speaker 1 And what are we going to put? We're going to put pears out for him to eat or remotes?

Speaker 1 I think pears. Okay, maybe one pair one.
Mr. Pear, Mr.

Speaker 4 Pear. No chewing gum?

Speaker 1 Mr. Pear?

Speaker 1 No. Okay.
I can't wait for Mr. Pear.
All right, let's do some picks for Final Four.

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Speaker 1 What are we guys feeling? What are we guys feeling?

Speaker 4 I love, I love UConn.

Speaker 1 I already,

Speaker 1 there will be no bet on that game for me because I have UConn and I want so much.

Speaker 4 I want to elect to abstain from

Speaker 4 betting on Purdue NC State.

Speaker 4 I'll put it that way.

Speaker 1 The DJ Burns shirts we just put on sale are so fire that I have to bet NC State Moneyline. I have no choice.
You know what? Fucking.

Speaker 1 And rooting for Purdue is just so, so, it's so fun to root against them.

Speaker 4 I just have to do it. So the reason why I wanted to abstain was

Speaker 4 I am so convinced that Zach Eady is just going to have his way with NC State, but I'm also very stupid. So since I'm so sure that Purdue is going to dominate, I should just bet on NC State.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just don't know how you can't, like, if you're impartial, if you don't have a team or bet on these, this Final Four,

Speaker 1 the answer has to be NC State. Like, you have to,

Speaker 1 and I, they're perfect because

Speaker 1 the 83 title run is so similar to this run where you're like, maybe it just is destined. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Maybe this is just what's going to happen, and they're going to shock the world, and this is going to be the craziest three-week, four-week run in history.

Speaker 4 That's what I said before the Duke.

Speaker 1 I was like, are you a little worried if NC State wins that they're... No, UConn would smash them.
But smash them. They can beat Purdue.

Speaker 1 I am a little worried about Alabama, though, because Alabama could just go nuclear from three. You want to know what I'm betting that game? What?

Speaker 1 Alabama. Batman Moneyline.
Oh, of course he is. No, I'm not.
UConn to win by 1-2. Oh, exactly.
Just for chaos. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 We're going. We're going to be with Dave and Big Kat, who have huge, huge futures bets on UConn, Rico, Diehard, Alabama fan.
That would be the best content if it ended up with that scenario. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because if it's a blowout, it would lose its luster. But if it's close to the end,

Speaker 1 it'd be quite a scene. I am enjoying watching the Alabama fans game plan for this game.
And I saw one guy was like,

Speaker 1 we got to just force the ball to Klingon and Caraban and let Caraban shoot threes. Caraban's shooting 40% from three yeah force the ball to

Speaker 1 two great players yeah like they have just great players everywhere and i don't really know what the answer is to you conn other than the sleeping schedule is fucked up the strategy in this game if you're alabama is just be Alabama and then hope you have the best Alabama night that you can because if they do play their best basketball they definitely can win this game shoot 60 from three yeah like that's the thing is I'm not I don't give out I'm not saying that Alabama has zero chance they definitely have a chance because of the style they play And if they hit all their threes, anyone could lose to them on any night.

Speaker 1 But UConn is just a kind of a, there's levels, and they're just at a different level right now if they come out and play. Like, UConn would have to play, what, a C-minus game to give Alabama a chance.

Speaker 1 Like, if I think if UConn plays a B game, they beat everyone.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm going to take Connecticut minus 11.5, and then I'm going to take NC State Moneyline.

Speaker 4 And we'll let the chips fall where they may.

Speaker 1 I want to just shout out the women's game, too, real quick. I kind of like UConn on Sunday.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I scouted that UConn USC game. They had a very good plan for Juju Watkins.
I think they'll have a very good plan for Caitlin Clark. Let everyone else beat them except Caitlin Clark.
So, yeah,

Speaker 1 I think that's what my plan is for Sunday.

Speaker 4 I think that the powers that be.

Speaker 1 Or no, Friday. That's Friday.
Sorry, that's Friday. Sunday is the championship game.

Speaker 4 I think the powers at B really want Caitlin Clark South Carolina championship. Yeah.
They really want that. Star player against a perfect team.
That would

Speaker 4 ratings higher or lower?

Speaker 4 Than what? Than LSU Iowa.

Speaker 1 Lower.

Speaker 4 In that championship game? Yeah. You think so? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I just think LSU Iowa is going to always have the highest ratings of the tournament just because of last year.

Speaker 4 It was the highest rated women's college basketball game ever. I think highest rated women's game ever.

Speaker 1 Yeah, across the game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 4 I think it would be higher.

Speaker 4 I think Clark against undefeated USC would be higher.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah, South Carolina. Yeah.
Yep.

Speaker 1 And they got, what, 12. What? 4 million?

Speaker 4 12.4 million? Something like that, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And Rascilla only watched a half.

Speaker 4 The funniest was when

Speaker 4 everybody was talking about the LSU Iowa game, and then Rasillo tweeted something out about some NBA player not getting enough rebounds.

Speaker 1 He gets people so angry.

Speaker 4 I like it because it breaks up the timeline a little bit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and he does that every now and then where there'll be like a big football game and he'll just randomly tweet like, yeah, Blue Jays, like, like Manoah shouldn't have left that one hanging.

Speaker 1 Nah, people should be able to tweet about what they want to tweet about. I was tweeting about the Phillies during that game, and every single comment was like, read the room.

Speaker 1 Everyone's talking about college. Agreed.

Speaker 1 We're defending Russell. He just makes everyone so mad.
I know.

Speaker 1 He makes people so mad. It's like, like what you like.
Who cares?

Speaker 1 But he only watched half.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Who scored 50 points in the NBA yesterday? Was it Malachi? Yeah.

Speaker 6 Malachi Flynn?

Speaker 4 Malachi Flynn scored 50. That might be the moment where we all realize scoring is out of control in the NBA right now.

Speaker 1 Scoring is pretty crazy. It is.
Congrats. Hank,

Speaker 1 you were saying before that there's a 0% chance you don't make it to the finals.

Speaker 1 I don't know that I said 0% chance, but

Speaker 1 it would be heartbreaking if they don't. Big Cat put a future on the Nuggets, and I was like, that's a little affected.
Well, no, I put it. Well, it's different.
Oh, hold on.

Speaker 1 I put a future on Scotty Scheffler and the Nuggets, so it might not even be a thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It was a message.
I put a future on Brooks and the Celtics.

Speaker 1 Well, I also put a future on Brooks, but it was a Scotty Scheffler and Nuggets.

Speaker 1 You left that part out.

Speaker 4 You left that part out. So he's not even going to be rooting for the Nuggets unless Scotty wins.

Speaker 1 Correct. And I don't want Scotty to win.
I want someone else to win, but I think Scotty's playing so well that he's going to win, but I don't want him to win.

Speaker 4 Does that make sense?

Speaker 1 Yeah, but you could have just done Scotty and the Celtics.

Speaker 1 Why?

Speaker 1 For everything you've done?

Speaker 4 He doesn't think the Celtics.

Speaker 1 And everything you've done? No, I think they absolutely could win, but for everybody,

Speaker 1 everything you've done to me? Let's get a reason to root against the Celtics. Boom.
Got it.

Speaker 4 Oh, my God. I got UConn.
This is why. Nuggets.
Why I should have stayed.

Speaker 1 MVP. He's a fucking baby.

Speaker 4 So, fair warning, Hank. But again, I am a longtime Nuggets podcast.

Speaker 1 He is. It's fun.
He's a Nugs guy. Been through it before.
I'll go through it again. What are you going to say, Max? I'll be rooting against the Celtics for sure.

Speaker 1 um i won't feel bad about it and i want your pain like bad that's fine you can taste it on your lips yeah yeah so i'm okay with that

Speaker 1 you're not you're not fake you're not fake yeah you're a real one i mean this is this is setting up for hank to defeat max wait how am i fake for not betting on your team

Speaker 1 no you just like to be like oh it's a coincidence i bet on the nuggets no i think they're gonna win the

Speaker 1 why would i bet on something i don't think is gonna happen how do you solve the jokic riddle yeah what i i think that's going to happen so that's what I bet. That's fine.
Let's see.

Speaker 1 So, what you want me to? I'm looking forward. I'm looking forward to it.

Speaker 1 I don't know how that's what I think is going to happen. You do that all the time.

Speaker 4 I also don't think you're looking forward to it. I think you're scared of the Nuggets.

Speaker 1 No, the Nuggets are good. The Nuggets will be Nuggets will be a worthy test if the Celtics can make it that far, and the Nuggets too as well.
But I'm super excited.

Speaker 1 I think it's April 22nd playoff start. Can't wait.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Very excited. Don't sleep on the Sixers, Sixers.

Speaker 1 No, we're sleeping down on the Sixers. Don't sleep on the the Sixers.
Don't sleep on the heat. I'm going to sleep on the Swiss.
Maybe not. Yeah, maybe not.
Also, be at the Sixers game next week.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. What are you doing? We'll talk about that next week.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I was thinking about setting it up as my Firefest, but yeah, next week. All right, well, let's talk more NBA.
We got Alex Cruso on the show

Speaker 1 in studio. Awesome interview.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, long time coming. It is the man, the myth, the legend, Alex Crusoe, Chicago Bull.

Speaker 1 Should we do the hard part first?

Speaker 1 Yeah, sure. Okay, because I was going to say NBA champion, but we don't think that changes.
Oh, you don't recommend that. Yeah, we don't recommend that.
Okay, let's just do the hard part first.

Speaker 1 Let's just get out of the way. Mickey Mouse.
Bubble championship didn't count. La Bubble.

Speaker 1 How do you do? What do you say to that?

Speaker 1 Got to still play the games. Got to still show up and win the games.

Speaker 1 There's something to play for, you know, like the NCA tournament. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, it happened. I'll say this.
It did happen. So,

Speaker 1 what's the argument for the...

Speaker 4 The argument is that LeBron won a championship, and so God counts.

Speaker 1 So, actually, we're fine with letting you play. My championship battle.

Speaker 1 That's cool. Yeah, yeah, I'm fine with that.

Speaker 4 Congratulations. Thank you.
Yes.

Speaker 1 He's got a couple that, you know,

Speaker 1 are real, so the fake one. Three.
Also,

Speaker 4 are you the first Italian-American all-defensive player in the the NBA?

Speaker 1 Is that what we declared last year?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think

Speaker 1 that's what I don't think

Speaker 1 the other white guy that was a guard that made all defense was Italian, so I think that has to be

Speaker 1 you. Yeah, so wait, so talking about the bubble championship, because obviously we're joking, but not really, because we don't really count it for LeBron.

Speaker 1 Do you think back and you're like, man, I kind of wish that we had won that in like regular setting because it felt a little different?

Speaker 1 I would say just for the, just for like the

Speaker 1 like all the extra stuff that comes with it, you know, like being able to celebrate with fans afterwards, being able to have a parade,

Speaker 1 having the energy of like the final second countdown, you know, like

Speaker 1 it would have been different having 16,000 people in the arena, regardless of home or away, just to have that kind of atmosphere.

Speaker 1 I mean, it still is like incredible that you guys did it because it was very hard circumstances. Bro,

Speaker 1 three and a half months, basically a summer, and then you come back and just start playing again. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Were you ever at any point being like, I really just want to go home? I'm sick of living in Disney World.

Speaker 1 Yes, but no. You know, like, it was kind of like

Speaker 1 I've seen like multiple takes, right? There's like both sides of the spectrum. Some people were like, it's the hardest thing ever.

Speaker 1 And then some people were just like, yeah, like it was, you know, a hotel and we stayed there.

Speaker 1 I don't have kids, you know, at the time, I wasn't in a relationship, so like for me, it was like college again.

Speaker 1 Like, I was just like going to practice, I would go play golf, I'd go back, get some food, play Call of Duty, and then wake up and go play basketball the next day.

Speaker 1 Like, for me, it was like, this is not terrible. It's a pretty good life.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like, I think people would, some people would, would take playing Call of Duty golf and then go into play and then be at playoffs. I think some people would like that.

Speaker 4 What was the vibe like in there? Like, were you guys hanging out with other teams, or did you guys mostly just keep to yourselves?

Speaker 1 No, yeah, it was like it was like clicks, like, everybody was with their own team. Um, some people, like, turned their meeting rooms into like players' lounges, like, had ping-pong tables and stuff.

Speaker 1 But for the most part, we were a pretty close group all year. Like, we hung out, you know, one through 15 on the roster, so it was easy for us to hang out once we got there.

Speaker 4 Yeah, were you allowed to buy coffee from Jimmy Butler, or was that just for his teammates?

Speaker 1 I don't know. That's a good question.
I never tried, I didn't,

Speaker 1 I'm a little bit of a coffee drinker now, but this has really come on in the last year, year and a half. Okay, good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I've always like to just take a shower and go kind of guy, but recently coffee.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't think he would have sold it to us.

Speaker 4 You would have poisoned it, probably.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he would have done something to it. He would have like put some eye drops, the little

Speaker 1 dumb and dumb crashers.

Speaker 1 Easier question, do you think the sons would have let you hang out with them?

Speaker 1 No, probably not still.

Speaker 1 Would you have wanted to hang out with the sons?

Speaker 1 I would say no to that as well.

Speaker 1 Smart answer. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 So yeah, I'm pumped that you're here. Like I said, it'd been a long time coming.
Got a million questions, but I was just going back through like your career, and it's incredible.

Speaker 1 Like seeing that you, you know, four years of college and then the G-League, and then getting to a point where you sign a huge deal, win a championship, sign a huge deal, become like a very impactful part of an NBA roster.

Speaker 1 Was there any part of like that journey where you're like, fuck, I was pretty close to like not making it to where I wanted to do? Because not a lot of guys do that journey. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Not a lot of guys are on that same path. Yeah, I don't know if there was any point in time where I was like, oh man, like this might be it.

Speaker 1 But at the same time, like that's kind of what kept me, you know, on my P's and Q's and like on like top of my game to like make sure that when I got the opportunity, I took advantage of it because I was like, all right, if I don't play good, like, I'm done.

Speaker 1 Right. You know, if I don't play good in the G League, I'm not going to be able to get to an NBA team.
If I don't play good in college, I'm not going to be able to go to the G League

Speaker 1 or professional.

Speaker 1 So it was always kind of like

Speaker 1 I was almost like a racehorse. I had blinders on, but at the same time, understood

Speaker 1 what the stakes were. Yeah.
I was playing.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and is it like that still now? Where it's like you have in the back of your mind, if I don't work hard enough, this all could be over?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 that's probably the cool thing about it.

Speaker 1 At first, it was like, all right, I got to work hard, and I got to... play my ass off so I can get into the league or get into this spot to get into the league.

Speaker 1 And then, you know, like you said, like now I've kind of established myself and it's to the point to where like I'm a coveted asset and it's, it's now the point to where it's like, all right, that's the standard I have for myself.

Speaker 1 Like, I can't drop below that, you know, and water down, you know, everything that I've worked for or, you know, throw away the work that I've put in.

Speaker 1 I just, I just really enjoy being competitive with myself, and that's kind of like the best part about it. Like, I'm just constantly chasing.

Speaker 1 What what was the moment where you're like, oh shit, I am a coveted aspect?

Speaker 1 Because it's crazy that not only did you obviously sign a great contract, but when you left the Lakers, I feel like Lakers fans were so upset that you were not on the feet. Yeah, they're like pissed.

Speaker 1 They're like, I tweeted

Speaker 1 the other day, I blew out a pair of shoes in a game against the Timberwolves a couple of days ago.

Speaker 1 Even just not even that tweet, but like, I'll tweet something and at least two to ten responses will always be like, come back to LA. Like, can't wait to see you in a Lakers uniform next year.
Like,

Speaker 1 they're either just, like, drinking the Kool-Aid or they just really are trying to convince me to come back. Every time I post something, they respond.
That's got to feel good, though, to be loved.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, that's cool. I mean, because, like, like you said, there's a time where, you know, people didn't know who I was at all.

Speaker 1 And then, you know, we're to the point now where he's talked about being an asset.

Speaker 1 Probably just over the last couple years.

Speaker 1 Once I signed the contract in Chicago, that was kind of like, all right, cool. Like, this one team really believes in me.
And

Speaker 1 that was a big step for me just to be able to,

Speaker 1 like you said, keep taking another step, keep chasing something.

Speaker 1 And then the last couple of years, you know, every year at the trade deadline, there's rumors of

Speaker 1 one to two to ten teams that are interested in me. So I know that there's some type of, yeah, and I know there's some type of,

Speaker 1 like you said, want for me to be on their team. And I think that, I mean, that's, that's the goal.
You know, that's, that's leverage, that's power in the league is, is,

Speaker 1 being able to say that multiple teams want you on their team.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's a double-sided coin because

Speaker 4 you're wanted, but then also every time there's a trade deadline, you're like, am I going to have to move again?

Speaker 1 Yeah, well,

Speaker 1 knock on what. I've never been involved in a trade, really been a part of one.
We didn't have one,

Speaker 1 I don't think, in L.A., maybe besides picking up some free agents and haven't had one really in Chicago. So I don't know about

Speaker 1 the whole moving thing, but there is, you know,

Speaker 1 this year we were at home, I think last, or no, no, this year we were in Memphis. I was on the road the last two trade deadlines, and it's like, I'm getting ready, like,

Speaker 1 we have a game both days.

Speaker 1 I'm like getting ready to lay down for my nap at like 12:30 or 1, and it's like deadlines at 3, and I'm just, all right, text my agent, like, hey, I'm just going to leave my phone on loud.

Speaker 1 Like, if you need me, just call me. Yeah.
But I'm going to go take a nap. Like, I got to take a nap so I can get ready for the game tonight.

Speaker 4 But it is nice to be wanted. How does that work for most players when they get traded? I know you haven't been traded, but from what you know,

Speaker 4 do you get a call from your agent first, or do you get, do you have Woge notifications on?

Speaker 1 I don't have notifications, but I do follow Woj.

Speaker 1 Are you Shams or a Woge guy?

Speaker 1 I think I'm Woj, but

Speaker 1 I don't think I have a side. I think it's just that Woj was the first one I knew about.

Speaker 1 So I think that's where the loyalty kind of lies. Yeah.
But I mean, you know, it's a time game. Like, Shams eventually, you know, just the years is going to have to take over.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I just wonder if most players find out the right way or if they find out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't think most do.

Speaker 1 I would be willing to bet that most find out, you know,

Speaker 1 through their agent or through, you know, you've heard social media like nightmares where they see someone tweet that they've gotten traded or something crazy like that.

Speaker 1 I don't think most of the time,

Speaker 1 yeah, I just, you don't hear about it. So maybe that's the thing is like when it happens right, people just don't talk about it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But like you always hear about the ones where it's like the agent calls you like, hey, they just traded you or like dude finds out on Twitter or one of their family members texts them, and that's probably not a good feeling.

Speaker 1 And I also, I, at least from my perspective, I always like,

Speaker 1 obviously, being on an NBA team is so different than everyone else's work, like day-to-day, where you can't just walk up to AK and be like, hey, you thinking about trading me?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I would assume, right? I don't think the dynamic day. Yeah, right.
Like, he's not someone you can just be like, hey, can I just get a few minutes with you?

Speaker 1 Just wondering what your plan is with you. Hey, when you have a few

Speaker 1 separate channels. Can I put you on my calendar real quick?

Speaker 1 yeah no I don't think yeah that's probably not the way at least not that I've seen to go about it yeah that's I mean that comes with the territory you know we make a lot of money to play a children's game you know at the end of the day it is what it is yeah do you remember the moment when you knew that LeBron trusted you oh good question thank you thank you um

Speaker 1 now you say thank you to me I know I was repeating after you because that was a good question it was a great question uh I would say

Speaker 1 honestly it's probably earlier than

Speaker 1 maybe even he realized or people realize. It was when I was on two-way my last year in L.A., his first year, and

Speaker 1 it was

Speaker 1 the year before the AD trade.

Speaker 1 So, like, I was playing with him and a couple of other two-ways and guys, you know, middle end of the bench because I don't think we were making the playoffs, and it was before play-in.

Speaker 1 And we're playing at Toronto, and I'm running a pick and roll with him on the side. And

Speaker 1 this is when I figured out that, oh, when I'm playing with him, people are just going to pay attention to him and I can just go shoot layups yeah

Speaker 1 and I just go straight downhill and shoot the layup and one

Speaker 1 nice and one yeah and one

Speaker 1 and he comes over to me and he's like talking very intently and directly and it was the first time like within a game where I like

Speaker 1 it was just like oh we're on the same team playing basketball it's not like oh that's LeBron I'm Alex and we're just happening to be here it was like He's talking to me like teammate like, hey, we got to figure this out to try and win this game.

Speaker 1 Price, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like Piers.
And so that was, that was probably the first time looking back on it where I was just like,

Speaker 1 okay, like, this guy's competitive. Like, that's what I do.
This is going to be, this is going to be a good thing.

Speaker 4 That's got to be a good feeling. Did that unlock something in you where you're like, oh, shit, LeBron believes me.
Maybe, maybe I believe in me too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think it freed me up just to know that like the stuff that I see on the court, he's also seeing.

Speaker 1 Obviously, and then another level to that. But like,

Speaker 1 it, my instincts kicked in.

Speaker 1 Like, I was able to just kind of play free and play off my instincts, and then from there, learn what to do, what not to do, you know, what I can get away with, how I can be useful when playing with him.

Speaker 1 And from there, I just, I'm a learner, so like if the more opportunity, the more reps I get, like, I use that, store it up here, and then just take it to the next game. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Has Austin Reeves ever hit you up being like, how do I get LeBron to like me?

Speaker 1 No, no, he hasn't. We do.

Speaker 1 We talked once. We need to try.
He wants to try and play golf, and I would love to play golf with him. I heard he's pretty good.
Yeah. No,

Speaker 1 he has not hit me up for LeBron relationship advice. Yeah.
I mean,

Speaker 1 it is crazy to think about that team, too. I mean, I would assume Anthony Davis is one of those guys who I feel like gets forgotten at times of like how dominant he is.

Speaker 1 When you would even practice with him, where you're like, fuck, this is like

Speaker 1 when he controls the defense. Yeah, I mean, the year we won the championship, we literally just like,

Speaker 1 if he switched on to somebody, you just face guarded your guy and get ready to box out because, like, we're not helping him. Right.
Don't need to help him.

Speaker 1 Like, if you try to take it to the rim, he's going to block it. Yeah.
Or you're going to throw it so far up, like, you know, you're going to clank it off trying to get around him.

Speaker 1 And then, I mean, he's 6'10, 6'11, 7-something wingspan. Like, he's guarding guys with lengths, moving his feet on the perimeter.

Speaker 1 Like, literally, when people switched on to him late in the clock, we were just, all right, find your guy. Like, we're going to get the ball back here.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then for me, you know, I just... pressure the hell out of everybody, send them into the rim.
You got Dwight Javail, and then you got Anthony Davis.

Speaker 1 You You know, two of the three of them are always on the court together.

Speaker 1 They just feed him that way. Pretty easy for me.
Yeah, it's like, yeah,

Speaker 1 he was a monster. He should have won DPOY that year.
I think they gave it to Giannis

Speaker 1 and he gave him MVP too. But

Speaker 1 literally,

Speaker 1 that was our defense. Yeah.
We'd just be super aggressive, and then when AD got on somebody, it's like, just let him guard him. Yeah, when he's on, it's just

Speaker 1 the whole defense just looks like unstoppable.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, that literally what i told you like when he's on you don't have to play defense anymore because he's just gonna do it who who have you pissed off the most by like being in their face defensively

Speaker 1 because you are a bulldog yeah no i have to be yeah i mean you're all up in everyone's face i think that's the fun thing for me too is like people always get pissed off and like they think that i'm fouling and like everyone you know everyone's best two players in the league thinks that everyone fouls right yeah that's just how it goes but it's just funny to me because i just have like no emotion attached to it and they're just you know if they get mad it's it's almost amusing for me because i'm like yeah contact sport what do you want me to do yeah we're playing a sport here and i'll let you score yeah um

Speaker 1 i don't know if any one person comes to mind is it like though it is it in the calendar year can you tell like I've always thought like, you know, February is that time when you have a lull and guys are maybe looking for the all-star break.

Speaker 1 There'll be games in February where someone will be like, dude, can you stop? Can you stop doing this?

Speaker 1 not not directly dude I don't know I mean I can tell though you know like like when I'm picking them up and they don't usually complain to me they'll complain to the refs yeah you know like I'll I'll be super physical getting over a screen and then like I'm just trying super hard like getting deflection and like obviously yeah I'm trying to be all defense again and I'm trying to make sure that I'm like creating more value for myself in the league I'm not going to just keep letting you score right you do things

Speaker 1 and then they start like you know they get mad they get pissed off and start yelling at the ref

Speaker 1 That's when you know you got them. That's going to feel like the best feeling.
Yeah, yeah, that's the best. Yeah.
Then

Speaker 1 you can kind of troll them in the moment, too. You know, like you do the indirect, like, really aggressive clap or like, you know, yell at the crowd right with them next to you.

Speaker 1 That's when you can kind of like get under their skin. Slap the floor a little bit.
Have you ever slopped the floor? No, not

Speaker 1 the floor.

Speaker 1 Not without being a troll and Bactus or something. I don't think in a game, I hate that.
Yeah, so that's the same thing. That's the dude for that.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 the five in unison. Yeah, you can't do that.
You can't do that.

Speaker 1 Speaking of college, though, you had a great career at Texas A ⁇ M. You went to the Sweet 16 your senior year.

Speaker 1 Are you still, like, do you still watch college ball like a fan? I watch A ⁇ M. Yeah.
Yeah. No, I can't watch.

Speaker 1 I can't watch too much college basketball. Why? It's just, it's slow.
Yeah. You know, it's a little too methodical.

Speaker 1 And it's just, I mean, once you played like night in, night out, I'm playing against the the best players in the world like the talent level there is just so different like the skill level in college varies.

Speaker 1 Yeah

Speaker 1 it's nice you know the good teams you know have a couple players that are really elite that are going to be pros but you know at the same time it's it's hard to watch but yeah I'm still I'm still you know maroon Kool-Aid A ⁇ M through and through.

Speaker 1 They're big buzz guys. Yeah, we love buzz.

Speaker 1 Buzz is a good guy. Buzz is our guy.
So are there times when you're watching a college game and you're just frustrated being like all these wide open shots are not going in?

Speaker 1 because that is when you watch the shots like because you know like NBA guys like you'll miss some open shots every now and then like that's rarely yeah I mean it's it is it is more rare but it's it's more just like the basic understanding of basketball yeah you know like understanding how to play um being able to make certain passes that should just be like elementary that they like mess up

Speaker 1 missing layups and stuff like that's the stuff that like open layups like wide open ones yeah that's the stuff where just like

Speaker 1 how how awesome was it though to play in the tournament get to the sweet 16 because I mean I love it sweet well you remember you remember our game against northern Iowa the comeback right so that I mean I get reminded of that by people just as much as you know winning the championship in LA like random people will stop me like oh dude I loved you

Speaker 1 and then like you had that game in college we had the comeback and I'm like yep we did like it was you know crazy

Speaker 1 And then we went to the Sweet 16 and got smacked by Oklahoma, but that comeback was awesome. Yeah, but it was also that was the buddy healed year, right? So that was

Speaker 1 where you got smacked. So you

Speaker 1 smacked even more because Villanova beat Oklahoma by like a thousand. Yeah, that was that was a weird year in college basketball, too, because there was like

Speaker 1 it was just so up and down. Like we got up to number five in the country at one point that year, and then we lost like four in a row.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And it was we beat every Big 12 team we played, like four or five Big 12 teams, but went like a couple games

Speaker 1 over 500

Speaker 1 against everybody else in

Speaker 1 that might have been the year before. So Tex A ⁇ M, you're from right around there.

Speaker 1 Are you from

Speaker 1 Station Day? Yeah, I grew up there. So you've never had a chance to be outside the cult.

Speaker 1 No, I mean, I've seen other stuff. Yeah, but like,

Speaker 1 do you understand how weird it is? Yeah, no, I do. I do.
I get it. I get it.

Speaker 1 I think once I left College Station, and I was like, because obviously I'm still, like, that's the only team I really root for.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't really have a professional sports team that I love outside of

Speaker 1 Premier League soccer. Who? Who's your team? Manchester City.
Oh, you're frontrunner. Frontrunner.
Yeah. Big frontrunner.
Been a fan for 12 years. Oh, what?

Speaker 1 When they won 12 years ago and they won again?

Speaker 4 You're a championship merchant. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's fine. We can go with that.

Speaker 1 And once I left and went to LA, I was like, oh, okay, I get it.

Speaker 1 Everyone is really aggressively pro-AM or pro or anti-AM. Yeah.
All right, that's fine. Like, we can go with that.
Like,

Speaker 1 I will admit to being able to recognize that. It doesn't lower my level of fandom and love or appreciation.

Speaker 4 But since you're from College Station, you never thought that it was weird, the whole yell eater thing. That was always normal to you.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I still don't think it's weird, but

Speaker 1 the Midnight Yell. This is a cult.

Speaker 4 The Midnight Yell is not weird.

Speaker 1 What about when they grab each other by the cock and they like the music? No, it's not the cock. It's the waist.

Speaker 1 It's the shoulder. I went to the store and old mad said.
No, I mean, the midnight yell is just a pep rally.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I guess in the same way that Jonestown was a pep rally.

Speaker 1 There's no drinks being passed around.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's strange.

Speaker 4 Are you allowed in college station? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Ah, there you go.
Come on. Here we go.
I mean, you are the. I really, okay, so on the drive over here, I was thinking that somebody was going to show up with the t-shirt of my picture on it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. In the back of my mind, I was like, they won't do that.

Speaker 1 But no, it was cool.

Speaker 4 It made you cool.

Speaker 1 It's literally like the best. It was 90% positive pr yeah it was the best crime to get busted for you're the last person in america i think to get arrested for weed yeah at least in texas yeah yeah

Speaker 1 it was just a grinder right i am a trendsetter you know i pioneer yeah i'm saving so many 18 to 21 yeah two year olds from getting arrested that's a fact was it it was just a grinder right yeah that's crazy yeah that's it like because i remember when it happened i was like wait what what that's what it yeah dude when it was happening too I was just more annoyed than anything because I'm like, this is, well, one, I had to make sure because it was right before I was a free agent.

Speaker 1 I was like, I hope this doesn't mess up, you know, anything with me signing a contract. Didn't.
No, no, no. Of course not.
Nobody in the league cared. Right.
Which we know why. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then while it was happening, it was just since the airport is on, technically, it's on Tech Stamp Campus, it was campus police. that came out.
They didn't give you, did you? No, it was too young.

Speaker 1 It was too young.

Speaker 1 Up-and-comers.

Speaker 1 Yeah, dude. Remember Northern Iowa? Fresh stashes.
You know, they were one of those guys. They just wanted their big cameras.
Remember Northern Iowa? Yeah.

Speaker 1 12 points in 44 seconds. That means anything to you.

Speaker 1 That would have rocked.

Speaker 4 They might have let you go, yeah.

Speaker 1 That actually would have been like. And they would have been like, we're football fans.

Speaker 1 The only time a Dito Who I Am would work is me in like 20 points in 44 seconds. You'd think.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 It was kind of funny because at the time, me and Big Cat's reaction was the same, which was like, why? Why are they getting in trouble? Yeah.

Speaker 1 We were free Alex Caruso.

Speaker 4 And then there was a, it just always makes me think back to the Laramie Tunsill draft in the NFL. Oh, yeah.
We're like four teams, five teams passed on the game.

Speaker 1 That was the night of the draft, huh?

Speaker 4 It was like minutes before the draft started.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And teams panicked, and they're like, this guy smokes weed. He can't play in the NFL.

Speaker 1 What year was that? That was like 20.

Speaker 4 2016, I think. 2016, yeah.
Yeah. That might have been like the second month apart of my take.
Yeah. The gas mask.
That was crazy.

Speaker 4 So, Alex, I actually, I own a piece of Alex Caruso history. I'm not sure if you're familiar with this.

Speaker 1 I don't know if I am.

Speaker 1 He has the grinder. You remember? No.

Speaker 1 I would buy the. Revelle probably does.
Revelle probably bought me. I think so.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 I own an NBA Top Shot.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 I remember that.

Speaker 4 The only one that I bought was your Chase Down block against James Harden.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I've seen there's quite a few of those, aren't there?

Speaker 4 I don't know how many there are. No, they're very rare.

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, yeah, super rare.

Speaker 4 You know, it would be even rarer if you were to autograph my NBA Top Shot for me, and then I could try to sell that. Can you do that? I'll print out like a still frame Okay.
I'll have you sign it.

Speaker 4 Okay, yeah, yeah. But do you remember that block?

Speaker 1 I do. I do.
I turned it over right before that.

Speaker 4 Oh, so you were making up for your mistake?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Classic Alex Caruso move.

Speaker 1 It was a great block. It was.
It was. It was.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so I'm watching it right now, and

Speaker 4 it's in the bubble, and you can see the videos of the fans in the stands behind you. Okay.
How weird was that?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was, it was, it was weird until the game started. Like, once the game started, you didn't really notice it.
It was almost just like, you know, how there's like the ribbon board and

Speaker 1 NBA arenas where it's just kind of like there.

Speaker 1 But pregame and like warm-ups, you're like looking and there's like people's faces in these fish bowls just like staring at you.

Speaker 1 It wasn't normal. It wasn't normal, but like once the game started, I think it was pretty normal.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm pretty sure Lil Wayne was in one of them for somebody, too. Yeah, I think I was in one for the heat.

Speaker 4 I think I chugged a beer. Hell yeah.
Might have been in the Easter Conference semifinal. And they're like, don't let this guy back off.

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Speaker 1 I had a really good shooting. I had New Career High Seven made threes, and I was like, in the interview afterwards with Casey Johnson, one of our reporters, I was just like, yeah,

Speaker 1 I was like, vibes were great pre-game. Like, I was, I was coming out, I was bobbing my head, like, music was phenomenal.

Speaker 1 I was making everything in warm-ups, so I was like, all right, probably going to be a good night. Sure enough.
And then the guy tweeted and was like, make sure it's Sandstorm. I was just like, okay.

Speaker 4 I gave all the credit to Sandstorm. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and Sandstorm

Speaker 1 didn't deserve it, but, you know, shout out to the OG. Sandstorms.
How many points do you think you could score in a game? Because you did the seven threes.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you saw on January 22nd when Embiid went for 70 and Cat had 53.

Speaker 1 I did note. I was like, Embiid just went for 70.
Cat has 53 and Crusoe has nine in the first quarter. I'm pretty sure I saw it.
It's like everyone's going off right now. It's one of those nights.

Speaker 1 It could be one of those nights.

Speaker 1 I think 40 in you? I think 40

Speaker 1 is a number.

Speaker 1 It would have to be the right circumstance. I'm only getting that many attempts up if there's a couple people out or it's like end of the year, some type of situation.

Speaker 1 I think that's my career high now. I was like 32, and it was when I was on two-way, and it was like one of those things where it's like, all right.

Speaker 1 playing a game like for my for my career here right and I think I made five threes in that game and then had a bunch of layups and but like it was me and a bunch of two-way guys and then like KCP and Rondo.

Speaker 1 So who else is going to take the shots? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I can't wait for the 40, Alex Caruso 40 night. I'll make sure

Speaker 1 whenever I get the 40 ball, I'll give you the shout out for it. Oh, yeah.
That would rock. Just be like, shout out part of my take for the inspiration behind all of it.

Speaker 4 You could do it, yeah.

Speaker 4 Have you ever gotten the green light for an entire game?

Speaker 1 I mean, I kind of do, but like, I'm trying to win, too. So, like, I don't need to be out there just jacking up 25 shots.

Speaker 4 No, give Caruso the green green light.

Speaker 1 I don't, see, that's the thing. I don't think I have a red light.
Like, I don't have, like, when I'm open, I'm allowed to shoot. Like, I'm allowed to be aggressive.

Speaker 4 It's like a yield sign.

Speaker 1 Does Billy D ever say, like, I want you to shoot more? It's like a lime green. Yeah.
Does he ever say, like, hey, you're hot? Shoot more.

Speaker 1 No, but, like, usually when I'm hot, like, I'm going to shoot it anyway. Like, the other night, like, I was, you know, I made seven of eight.
So, like, any chance I got. Yeah.
That's what I did.

Speaker 1 But, like, you know, we got Kobe, we got DeMar Vooch. Like, I'm not going to just run the offense through me if I'm going one.

Speaker 4 What's Billy D like as a head coach?

Speaker 1 Billy D's got,

Speaker 1 you know, y'all say y'all like Buzz. He's got a little bit of Buzz charisma into him, you know, with the leadership and like making sure that, you know, the team's kind of focused on

Speaker 1 big storyteller guy, big, big, big metaphor analogy guy. So

Speaker 1 that's always fun because he'll come out left field with some of these things, but then it... you know, somehow it always correlates back to basketball.

Speaker 1 I like playing for Billy. He's competitive.

Speaker 1 You know, he's got some of that.

Speaker 1 You know, he played in Providence back in the day. I don't know if they were Big East or what they were, but he's got some of that.
Yeah. I think he played for Patino.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's one of Patino's favorite players.

Speaker 4 He said that he's stunk. That makes sense.
I think Patino said he was fat when he came into college and he played his way and became great at the end of the day. I don't know.

Speaker 1 The only picture I've seen, he looks pretty skinny. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Same height. What's a good Billy D metaphor?

Speaker 1 Billy D metaphor. Dude, he just, he'll come up with stories, and like, he knows at this point that, like,

Speaker 1 you know, whenever he tells tells a story we like you don't eye roll but it's just like okay here we go another story so like he'll start it off and be like vuj i know you love stories here's another story and it'll like go into it before and it'll just you know whatever we need during the season whether it's like you know refocus on you know we talked about that that using the old pictures from high school like yeah finding the love for the game and stop like get out of your own head and thinking about circumstances presently you know yeah when you had hair yeah being being being more involved in your love for the game rather than focusing yourself kind of thing.

Speaker 1 I have a hair question, but I want to go a question off of Billy D.

Speaker 1 When you got to the Bulls, he obviously was hired as well.

Speaker 1 Were there any stories about Jim Boylan and what happened before you got there?

Speaker 1 So I don't know him personally. Yeah.
We'll just, you know, disclaimer. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because that's got to be, I mean,

Speaker 1 Billy Donovan's a very good guy. That guy was a unique character, I heard.

Speaker 1 I heard he was a unique character. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He basically was like a Pop Warner coach coaching NBA basketball. I love that.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But he's, I mean,

Speaker 1 credit to him. He keeps finding jobs.
Yeah, I know. He's a basketball lifer.

Speaker 1 He coached USA basketball

Speaker 1 World Cup qualifiers.

Speaker 1 He was a head coach there. I think he's in Indian, I think he's in Indiana right now with the Pacers.
Yeah. So, like,

Speaker 1 maybe he's just a wizard in these meetings with the

Speaker 1 office guys or he's just like, or he's got blackmail on everybody. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 It was a ride. It was a ride when he was here in Chicago.

Speaker 1 it was something something special sound bites i heard it was unique very unique i heard it was unique but uh all right so the hair question when did you know that you were going bald because i feel like you did a really good job like we never really got full bald like you you you got yeah you made the switch fast enough that no one really caught on well it was uh

Speaker 1 it was right after it was right after the championship It was right after we won the chip. And then I did a deal with Manscape.
I signed like a 100K deal with them to like promote their stuff.

Speaker 1 And this was like when they were first coming on, and like I ended up shooting a commercial with them, and it was on TNT or something. It was like this cheesy little, like, me flying through the air.

Speaker 1 Kind of like their whole, you know, their whole match was like kind of like goofy and sarcastic. Um, and they were like, Yeah, we'll give you a bunch of money and do this commercial.

Speaker 1 And like, shave your head. I was like, All right, sure.
Like, I'm gonna have to do this anyway. Like, I might as well, you know, get some, get some fun money.

Speaker 1 Actually, you did, you did have some bad hair.

Speaker 4 I was gonna say, I remember there was

Speaker 1 a second band.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I was so locked in on basketball that I just didn't care. And I think it was bad.
I would see some of the photos after games, and I'd be like, ah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the headband was smart because you also rock the headband that's like, did he have a traumatic brain injury or is he wearing a headband? He was a thick ass head.

Speaker 1 Well, dude, I have a small head in general. So

Speaker 1 hats, beanies,

Speaker 1 I can't wear flatbill hats. I'm a big snapback baseball cap.
Like, I have to, like, find certain ones that I can fit. So, like, the headbands are

Speaker 1 crucial. Yeah, it was important.

Speaker 4 Would you always, like, make sure to adjust it after a play if you got hit, like, real quick, pull it down to the right spot?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I could feel it. But, like, even then, sometimes I've seen highlights of me where it's like, you know, like kind of zigzagged, and it's like, sometimes I just lose.
I lose control of it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's smart by Manscape, though. It was like, if we're going to ask somebody to shave their head, let's ask somebody who's probably going to shave their head sooner.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was very responsible.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Have you thought about going mustache only?

Speaker 1 I do every now and then in the summer. Like I did for 4th of July last year, just for fun.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, I can show you.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I want to see that. Also, you would drop 40 with a mustache.
Easy. That's a 40 stash.
Easy.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I think that's probably the key to it.

Speaker 4 Maybe that's a signal for us: is the night that you're going to go off, just roll out there with a mustache as a signal to the music.

Speaker 1 Now you're trying to get me in.

Speaker 1 You're trying to get me in the the Jante Porter.

Speaker 1 Just stay away from that.

Speaker 1 I'll find it and show you to you. You remember the time you got drug tested because you did a Photoshop picture with muscles? Yeah.
No, I didn't do a Photoshop picture.

Speaker 1 But you just posted a Photoshop picture. Somebody else posted it to me.
Yeah, I was just getting back into L.A. and I was working out.
And

Speaker 1 this might have been before

Speaker 1 after my two-way year going into the year that we won the chip,

Speaker 1 the 2020 season, 1920 season, I was just working out. Like, that's what the young guys do.

Speaker 1 Like, you come back a couple weeks before in September and start working out, get in front of everybody again.

Speaker 1 And, you know, the PR people just taking pictures, coming back. And this was like

Speaker 1 still after

Speaker 1 the hype was still building. And somebody just photo,

Speaker 1 excuse me, they photoshopped and made me look like Miles Garrett.

Speaker 1 And then all of a sudden, like, within a week, I got a drug test. And I was just like, well,

Speaker 1 welcome to the big leagues. Oh, that's so good.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's pretty good. So we had this debate last week on the show.
We were talking about college versus the NBA. The shot making at the NBA is so much better.

Speaker 4 Players are so much better at that level.

Speaker 4 How many players do you think right now could go from the NBA if you were to take one guy, put them on the worst roster in college basketball that's in the tournament? So like one of the 16 seeds.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 How many players are there in the NBA where they could take that roster and then win a championship with it?

Speaker 1 Win the tournament?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you should put them on a team. Like put them on one of the worst teams.
Oh, dude.

Speaker 1 Like, I was saying that it would be more than we think. Yeah, more than you think for sure.
Yeah. Like, if you

Speaker 1 what's the number y'all are, y'all, what y'all said? I actually said a few. I just said like 15.

Speaker 4 I thought about it. I think my number is probably around 10.

Speaker 1 Oh, I was going to go. I was going to go way more.
I would triple that, maybe. Yeah.
Even 40. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, anybody that's like,

Speaker 1 dude, I mean,

Speaker 1 guys in Navy are so good, man. Yeah, yeah.
Like, you got to automatically think bigs have an advantage because it's college, so, like, the big is back, right? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, so like that brings in a whole nother couple group of people.

Speaker 1 I think probably 30 to 40. I'd say 30.
30 is safe because you never know. The last 10, they might not have

Speaker 4 them. I was thinking, like, Dwayne Wade when he was on Marquette.
They were a decent team, but then they also had Dwayne Wade, but they didn't even win the championship.

Speaker 1 I'm comparing this right now to like every

Speaker 1 player that I'm putting on the worst team, I'm making them play Yukon in my head right now. Yeah.
Yeah. And like Giannis playing on like a 16 seed,

Speaker 1 I think they would probably win. He wouldn't even have to dribble.
He'd just, he'd just go to, he's so strong. Like, right.

Speaker 1 It doesn't matter. He would foul out the boys.
He would foul out the whole team. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He's dunking on grown men.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it wouldn't be fair. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The best way, I think Winhorse. We'll go with this.
27. 27.
That sounds a good answer. Make a whole list.

Speaker 4 It makes it sound like you really thought about it. I did.
really. Yeah, get a list.

Speaker 1 The best way to describe the difference, I think Windhorse said it a few years ago where he was like, the worst shooter on an NBA team would be the best shooter on a college team.

Speaker 1 And that's even including big men.

Speaker 1 They would be better than the three-point sniper on a college team.

Speaker 1 I've seen JaVale McGee and Dwight Howard go shot for shot from the three-point line at five spots. That's crazy.
Like, you know, like first one to miss, and they both make like four, five in a row.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And y'all would never trust them to shoot

Speaker 1 outside in the game. You'd be like, no, no, no, don't do that.
Like, set the screen, roll, we'll throw you the lob.

Speaker 1 But I've seen, yeah, like, I've seen, I've seen a number of big men that just, they can shoot and practice, but yeah, they're not asked to do it in a game. Yeah, it's just, it's different.

Speaker 4 How awesome of a teammate was JaVail?

Speaker 1 JaVail's a great teammate, man. He's one of the guys I love seeing now because he's just so, he's so, he's so chill.
Like, it doesn't

Speaker 1 make any sense that,

Speaker 1 you know, when he first came into the league, he was on Shackton to a Fool

Speaker 1 every other week. And now he's playing like 17 years in the NBA.
I know.

Speaker 1 Incredible career.

Speaker 1 He should get a lot of respect and admiration for that because he figured it out. He figured it out how to be a pro.
Fun fact, JaVail was the one that convinced me to wear the headband. Oh, really?

Speaker 1 Yep. So he was the friend.
He was the headman. He started doing the...

Speaker 1 He was an inspiration. He was the nice friend.
Yeah, who was like, hey, man. Yeah, he was an A-bo.

Speaker 4 The thing I used to love about JaVale was he would go out there. He was a great player by the time he was done with his career.

Speaker 4 But he would still have, like, once a week, he'd have a throwback Javel moment where he'd do something, like, put up a shot.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think he was just testing it out, like, see if he still got it.

Speaker 1 He's like, see if I can still get, see if I can still do this.

Speaker 1 Speaking of the NBA to college, can you tell a story about how you ruined the basketball hopes of a TikToker? Because I read that story.

Speaker 1 Oh, I saw that. I saw that.
It was high school. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We talked about this the other day in the locker room randomly because we were talking about like, you know, every now and then guys will like, no matter who it is at any level, they'll be like, oh, yeah, I played against that guy in high school or I played against that guy in college.

Speaker 1 And like, we don't remember because we play against thousands of people. Right.

Speaker 1 I had a couple people send me that TikTok where this guy was like

Speaker 1 basically talking about like, yeah, I thought I was good. Like, I thought our team was good.
Coach comes in and he tells him, like, hey, there's one guy on the other team you got to worry about.

Speaker 1 Like, make sure that we're locked in and focus on him. And like, we had some decent athletes, you know, in in Texas 5A 5A school so like big school 3,000 students

Speaker 1 a couple football players

Speaker 1 like you know first off the bus kind of guys and then like I come in and the coach points at me he's like that's the guy you worry about and this is when we talked about like I had the floppy hair like I had bangs yeah and he tells a story and he's like yeah I'm just like stealing the ball dunking like doing a windmill warm-ups I was like yeah that was me in high school like I was I was different in high school.

Speaker 1 I was dunking on people and basically just playing like, you know, how college players do with the rec and in the offseason. Yeah.
I love it, though. This kid told the whole story.

Speaker 1 He's like, yeah, I thought I was nice. And then Alex Crusoe showed up and I was like, oh, fuck.

Speaker 4 I stink. There are levels to this thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was. I remember the tournament, too.
I remember we played a, it was a preseason tournament down in Houston.

Speaker 1 Our coach took us down there because he used to coach down in Houston a little bit.

Speaker 1 And we just went out there and we just like destroyed people. We were just, we were a good team, though, my senior year.
We lost like five or six games.

Speaker 1 Does Does this still shock you every now and then? Because it is, we were talking about this. I was talking about it with Titus.

Speaker 1 Like, for some reason, the NBA is the one sport where casual fans are like, oh, I could take him.

Speaker 1 Like, Scalbrini used to do the Scal challenge where he would just invite people one-on-one. He would invite anybody.
He's in the video. He's just somebody to like 11 and he smokes them 11-0.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and it's like, you don't understand how good we are to be in the NBA. Do you ever have people who talk shit and you're like, you just don't have any idea? Like, how do you do that?

Speaker 1 Yeah, all the time.

Speaker 1 Every day. You should do a Crusoe challenge.
Yeah. Maybe we should.
We can host it here. Maybe we should.
Dominate people.

Speaker 4 If I played you first to 500.

Speaker 1 That's like people, that's like people

Speaker 1 random, like

Speaker 1 your average Joe on Twitter, and he's just like,

Speaker 1 whenever I'm playing bad or something, it's just like, this guy sucks.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, he's like, I was scoring him any day. I'm like, dude, I was first team on defense last year.

Speaker 1 That is incredibly hard to do. You understand the people that I have to guard every night and you think that you can just walk in here and do this? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think we need to do a cruise.

Speaker 1 That would be a good one.

Speaker 4 Half court, me versus you, first to 500. Would I score?

Speaker 1 Eventually, yeah. I think I would just like once I get up to 500, I'd just like

Speaker 1 I'd just catch my breath for five points and go score the other hundred in a row.

Speaker 4 And I would clip that video, and that would be

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 1 every day.

Speaker 1 How often? First to five, me 5-0. How often do you get people being like, damn, you're a lot taller than I thought? Yeah, pretty often.

Speaker 1 Because it's always so funny because even Steph, like, you know, he looks people like, oh, he's so small. It's like, he's 6'3 ⁇ , 6'4.
Like, that's a big human being.

Speaker 1 And that's what I try to explain to people. It's like, you don't understand the monsters that play in the NBA.
Yeah. Like, these dudes are genetic lottery winners.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And also athletic and coordinated. Like, you know, you can pick anybody in the world that find a couple guys that are 6'10 that can't chew gum and ride a bike at the same time.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, these dudes in here, like, they're monsters. Like they fill up a room.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 And they're smart, too.

Speaker 1 They're so smart.

Speaker 1 They're coordinated. Everything.
They're strong. Like,

Speaker 1 I'm a big human being.

Speaker 1 Average, like, human being, just on that scale. Once I get to the NBA, I'm a little guy.
Yeah. Like, I'm small.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 But even a dude like James Harden, he's so smart when it comes to understanding the rules, how to use them to his advantage, and take whatever the refs are going to give him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's a bunch of people like that now. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So how do you adjust your defense planning against guys like that?

Speaker 1 I mean, first you got to learn what's a foul and what's not a foul based on how the league is going to officiate it.

Speaker 1 Like, that's the key because you can think you're playing really good defense, but like what they could do in the 90s and the early 2000s, you'd foul out in 10 minutes trying to do that nowadays.

Speaker 1 So I mean, a lot of it's just figuring it out and then,

Speaker 1 you know, just not getting upset when the refs call something that you think is bullshit. Yeah.
Like that's the biggest thing is like they're going to call some bad fouls that it's a product, right?

Speaker 1 We want to score points. We want to entertain people.
So, like, the offense is always going to have the advantage. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, at that point, it's just like, all right, don't get pissed when there's a bad one.

Speaker 4 Is it like night to night in terms of how you adjust how you play defense depending on the refs, or is it month to month, year to year?

Speaker 4 Because they do put points of emphasis on different things at different times.

Speaker 1 Yeah, sometimes the points of emphasis last for a couple weeks, sometimes it lasts a whole year. That's neither here nor there.
Yeah, you know, but no,

Speaker 1 the way that the game is called usually increases towards the end of the year.

Speaker 1 There's been an uptick statistically in the amount of free throws shot before All-Star Break and after All-Star Break. Well, I guess so downtick, like a regression.
Less fouls are being called.

Speaker 1 It's starting to get a little more playoff-like. Yeah.
Where

Speaker 1 you don't get the little bump,

Speaker 1 head fake, throw it at the rim call anymore.

Speaker 1 That's always an interesting dynamic to see how the guys who do get those calls during the year have to adjust.

Speaker 1 And that's what we were talking about earlier, earlier where guys get pissed and they start yelling at the refs. It's like, no, I know that I can get away with this now or vice versa.

Speaker 4 My favorite is whenever Jokic tries to act like he was going to shoot a three from the opposing

Speaker 1 pass. He's going to get it.
He should. They should go.

Speaker 4 And they act to shoot.

Speaker 1 You know what's crazy about that?

Speaker 1 Practically thinking,

Speaker 1 why would that not be? If he's legitimately shooting the ball. Yeah.
Right from there,

Speaker 1 it's like the people who talk about, if it's a foul in the first minute of the game, it it should be a foul in the 47th man of the game. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Kind of true. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Swallow your whistle. If the dude's trying to shoot it,

Speaker 1 at what distance does it become not an attempted shot? Why can I not shoot it from here? Why is that?

Speaker 4 Before Steph, if somebody was trying to pull up like five feet from half court, they'd be like, no, that wasn't going to go.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they'd be like, no, you weren't really trying to shoot it.

Speaker 1 You don't get to judge my intent.

Speaker 1 Just take the facts for what they are. Yokosh should probably make that.
I hope it happens. He could.
I hope it happens in a playoff game.

Speaker 1 Like a conversation. No, they won't do that.
They could. That would be so awesome.
But it would be great.

Speaker 1 Pre-season next year, we'll get one.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah, that's what they should actually do: tell the refs, okay, we have to give him one so he stops trying it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And give it to him. No, see, the problem is you give him one.
Now they're going to do it. Oh.
Now everyone.

Speaker 1 The first time that happens, it'll happen three or four times the next night in the NBA. Yeah.
Somebody will try it.

Speaker 1 Well, I don't want to, I think you can guard anyone, so I don't want to disrespect you in asking who's the hardest to guard, but who has the most

Speaker 1 in their bag? Who has the most moves where you're like, damn, like they just do everything?

Speaker 1 This year,

Speaker 1 I mean, the two guys that are guards that are in the MVP conversations, Luca and

Speaker 1 Shay, Gildis Alexander. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, his career's over because of that commercial. Wait, what commercial? Him and Chet singing.
Oh, dude, that was so tough. It's tough.

Speaker 1 I saw it so many times watching games, too. They literally, like, they're a fun, young team, and those guys are so good.
And they did that, and it's like, I don't like them. R.I.P.
their career.

Speaker 1 That's sad to see for them. It's over.
They're so promising. Yeah.
So, Luca, for example, like, I mean, watching him play is crazy, but

Speaker 1 when you're playing against him, I would assume it's more of like, we know he's going to score. We know he's going to get his shots, just trying to make him work as hard as possible for it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, that's, I mean, that's.

Speaker 1 You could use that line and sentence for 30 people in the NBA. Really? Yeah.
No,

Speaker 1 there's nothing you can, you can't stop. I've said this before.
It's like dudes, like the dudes in the league, like the ones, they're going to get their averages. Yeah.
Too many possessions.

Speaker 1 The game's too open. Like, it's just, there's 48 minutes.
They're going to play 40 of them. They're going to get their numbers.
You've got to make sure the other guys don't get above their averages.

Speaker 1 You've got to make sure this guy doesn't, you know, he's averaging 29, 30, 31. You got to make sure he doesn't get 40.
Yeah. Make sure he doesn't get 50.

Speaker 1 Do you keep it in your head when someone scores on you? Like, all right, that was two? No, no, I don't. Okay.

Speaker 1 I got amnesia when I play basketball. That's smart.
You have to, though. Like, that's what we talked about.
These guys are incredible athletes, shot makers, scorers. Like, they're going to make shots.

Speaker 1 Like, I could play the best defense in the world. Like, good offense beats good defense any day of the week.

Speaker 1 Jokic hitting a one-foot timeline shot last year in the playoffs over AD. It's like, what do you, like, you couldn't have guarded any better? The dude threw in a prayer.
Like, that's going to happen.

Speaker 1 Like, at that point, it's just like, all right, cool, take it out. Let's go the other way.
Yeah, how annoying was Pat Bev in practice?

Speaker 1 Pat Bev wasn't annoying in practice. He uh, he tells us that he's annoying in practice.
He, he, he ended Jeremy Lynn's career, he's a hard worker. Oh, I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 Well, no, he just said that when he was trying to get in the league, he was like, I started guarding him the minute he got off the bus. Like, yeah, no, that's fair.

Speaker 1 I mean, that, but that's you got to do that, stay in the league. Like, yeah, you know, Pat recognized the opportunity.
Uh,

Speaker 1 no, he just pisses people off because he's just so extra sometimes. Yeah.
Which

Speaker 1 is smart. Yeah.
Got to do is keep your job, bro. Like, you know, he was first team all defense for a handful of years.
Yeah. And now he understands the game.
Now he knows how to think the game.

Speaker 1 And that's just his stick now. That's his mantra.
You had to have been when he was on the Bulls last year, and then now he's back off the Bulls.

Speaker 1 You're like, fuck, I really liked when he was on my team and I didn't have to deal with him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was funny seeing it from the first-person view every night and seeing how he would just fuck with people.

Speaker 1 He's the best. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he's very good at getting inside your head and driving somebody off their game because now they're not thinking about the game, they're thinking about Pat Pev.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like he did that. He tried to do that to me a little bit.
I can't remember when it was. The game we played here.
Yeah, the late game. The late game.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And he was messing with a couple of our guys, and

Speaker 1 he was like talking to our bench in front of our bench after the thing with Bobby and DeMar. And so I was just like,

Speaker 1 I was just like slowly escorting him. Like, all right, come on, come on.
And he like slapped my hand down. And like, I knew he was just like, you know, he's doing what he does.

Speaker 1 And so I just don't even give him a reaction. And he's like talking.
And he just passed me the butt, pat him on the butt. All right, come on.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You just got to ignore it.

Speaker 1 We both know that we don't want to waste energy doing this.

Speaker 1 Just keep going. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Who on the balls right now, young guys? Because there are a lot of young guys, is like, you can see they're going to have a long, awesome career.

Speaker 1 Honestly, I think. I mean, obviously our two guards right now.

Speaker 1 I know the right year, yeah. Just because you can tell that they've, they've.

Speaker 1 as an NBA player, the thing I respect the most about other NBA players is when you can tell that they got better because they worked hard.

Speaker 1 You can be good in the league, but

Speaker 1 if you leave one season, the end of this season, I come back next season and my game is exactly the same and I haven't changed anything,

Speaker 1 I wouldn't respect that as much as

Speaker 1 I saw Kobe

Speaker 1 last year and I saw him come back this year and like oh I could tell he's worked all summer and gotten better IO same thing.

Speaker 1 I could tell all summer he worked, got better, and then like through the year, it shows.

Speaker 1 Like, those are the things that, like, you, you can figure out who's going to be in the league for a long time based on who goes and gets better each summer. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, because that's what happens. Like, every year, there's 60 new players picked in the draft.
Every year, that's 60 jobs that have to be replaced. And then you got free agents.

Speaker 1 Now, you got people retiring.

Speaker 1 The turnover is crazy in the NBA. So, like, if you're not getting better and you're staying in the same place,

Speaker 1 you walk a dangerous line of getting replaced. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So what are you working on this offseason?

Speaker 1 I'm probably going to try and work on like a little

Speaker 1 touch shot mid-range instead of trying to get all the way to the rim just because you know I'm

Speaker 1 like over the last couple weeks I've been dealing with like an ankle sprain and it's finally like feeling better.

Speaker 1 But like for those two weeks I didn't have like the explosion that I usually do and I didn't have like the ability to like jump up. Like I missed a dunk one night against somebody.

Speaker 1 I barely made one last night. Like I'm starting to see the light at at the end of the tunnel.
It's like, oh, once I get old, like, I'm not going to be able to use my athleticism.

Speaker 1 Like, I got to be able to get here and be crafty and use different shots. So, probably that, probably playing off pivots in the lane and then just working on little touch shots.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 How embarrassing is that when you miss a dunk? I've never missed one.

Speaker 1 I've never missed a dunk. Oh, for oh.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, you'd have to say that. Well, I just want to make sure everyone knows.

Speaker 4 No, I said clearly, I've never missed a dunk. Yeah.
You're right.

Speaker 1 You're right.

Speaker 1 Is that 100% then, or is that a 0%?

Speaker 4 It's 100% because I've dunked on the koosh ball.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, I've never failed dunking. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
You have. You're right.

Speaker 1 Honestly, not too much. Embarrassing isn't a word.
I'm more disappointed in myself.

Speaker 1 I just wasted two points. I could have just laid it in and got my lamp counts as two.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But not embarrassed. Like, I don't really hold.
fans' opinions very high. That's smart.

Speaker 1 That's very smart.

Speaker 1 Not in a disrespectful way, but like a you don't understand what's going on out here.

Speaker 4 No, you can disrespect that. You can be like, yeah, you're an idiot.

Speaker 1 You don't get it. Yeah.
Yeah, no, it's like we talked about earlier, like the people who think they can just like, you know, go score an NBA game.

Speaker 1 I saw something, it was somebody on TikTok, and it was like,

Speaker 1 it was like, you could give you $10 million right now, or

Speaker 1 like, I could give you...

Speaker 1 like $10,000 right now or you had to go get like five rebounds in an NBA game for like $10 million.

Speaker 1 And people are like, I think I could do it.

Speaker 1 No, you couldn't,

Speaker 1 It's the Jay-Z Day. I'm 6'5 and somewhat athletic and pretty heady, like smart, IQ.
Like, I can find the ball. I average like three and a half rebounds a night, like four rebounds.

Speaker 1 Like, you're not getting five. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Good rule of thumb is if somebody says you can either have $10,000 right now, say yes. Yeah, just say yes.

Speaker 1 Stop it.

Speaker 1 Don't finish the sentence. Say, I'll take $15,000.
Tunnel of chaos. Yeah.

Speaker 4 We were talking about the in-season tournament a few months ago and whether or not the players cared about it.

Speaker 4 I think it was smart having the NBA setting aside, okay, here's cash, here's money if you end up winning. But some teams obviously cared about it.
Some teams did not care about it as much.

Speaker 4 Did you find yourself caring about the tournament?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I definitely cared about it.

Speaker 1 I don't think anybody didn't care,

Speaker 1 but I think some people had like a

Speaker 1 for sure plan and guideline of what they wanted to do with the in-season tournament. And then some teams were just like kind of figuring out their team still.

Speaker 1 You know, it was so early in the season that like a lot of people, like if you look back at the games and looked at the box scores like i'm sure probably half the teams in the league don't have two or three of the players that played in those like started in those games for them playing right now like that's one thing is like it felt like it was a year ago yeah it was so long ago so like maybe they maybe they change it and make make it a little longer or push it a little a couple days back in the season um but no i definitely cared is y'all are y'all pro colored courts or i actually kind of liked the difference like i liked i they were tough to look at but i did like that they tried to do something new i i thought it was fun felt like it was different like i i enjoyed like people said they hated looking at you know like i think i think phoenix had a purple court that was charlotte was tough what was charlotte's

Speaker 4 like teal i think oh that that yeah yeah it's just anytime we're such creatures of habit and when we watch a game on tv if it's different we're like yeah sucks bad yeah exactly like fun bad bad fun if they if they reintroduce the first line or the first down line in football right now people would be like oh that sucks for a week yeah they'd be like reality is you can't live without it Yeah, anything news.

Speaker 1 I thought it was good. Like, the intensity around the games was real.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't know if y'all could feel it through the TV watching or not, but like, it felt, you know, people called it like playoff atmosphere, like, we're treating like a playoff game kind of thing.

Speaker 1 It felt like that for you know, majority of the games. Yeah, what's uh, what's the best jersey the Bulls have right now that make you feel like you're gonna play the best?

Speaker 1 Because it is the black with the little pinstripe, that's okay, yeah. The classic

Speaker 1 sick. I love, I think black, I think black uniforms are the best.
Really? Yeah,

Speaker 1 I do think the NBA has gone too uniform crazy. Like, there's times.

Speaker 1 What was it? A couple of years ago? Yeah, a couple years ago, the City Editions first came out. It was rough.
It was a couple of bad ones.

Speaker 1 There was a game where I think the Pacers might have been playing the Heat, and it was like the... The Heat were wearing the.
It's like color rush. Oh, yeah.
Color rush throw-up nights.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Heat wearing yellow, and the Pacers were wearing what the Heat should be wearing. I was like, what is going on? Or sometimes when the Nuggets,

Speaker 1 it was the Nuggets playing the Blazers, and the Nuggets were wearing like a maroon. And you're like, what's going on here? Oh, yeah, they did.

Speaker 1 Well, that's when they changed their whole logo and color scheme. Yeah.
Yeah, no,

Speaker 1 I don't like that.

Speaker 1 Man, what they need to do is bring back the old jerseys. Yeah.
The Nuggets with the stripes. Yeah, the stripes.
The Raptors, the Purple Raptors uniform.

Speaker 1 Old Grizzlies. The Grizzlies ones.
You know, the Bulls are the only team in the NBA history never changed their logo. Yeah.
It's the robot doing the DJ. That's why the black one suit, I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, those are the nights. Those are awesome ones.

Speaker 4 When you first put on the Bulls jersey, were you like, I'm Michael Jordan?

Speaker 1 Close, but no. I was more like, oh, I'm John Paxon.

Speaker 1 Shout out to my guy, Pax.

Speaker 4 But it is cool to be like, I'm wearing the same jersey that the greatest player of all time wore.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think, well.

Speaker 1 No, you kept on close

Speaker 1 guys.

Speaker 1 He went by it. Y'all are trying to get me in trouble.
You're a Kobe guy.

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 1 we'll come back to this. The jersey part is like the cool part is like, y'all, I don't think y'all see the details, but any team that's won a championship, they have a crest.
Yeah. Like a,

Speaker 1 I don't even know what it looks like, but like, it's like a shield with the number of championships you won.

Speaker 1 And so, like, every time you put on your jersey, right, you're putting it on, you know, your back Caruso six, and then it has the

Speaker 1 six, yeah. So, like, when I was in LA, it said, you know, 16 or however many it was.
And then the next year we won it, 17.

Speaker 1 So, like, that part is when i put that on for the bulls like that was cool and then like hearing like the

Speaker 1 uh the little alan parsons project yeah yeah yeah that's gets you jacked up yeah so yeah what it is the you know you look up and you're like man i'm playing where the best player bar none

Speaker 1 not even close he's great he's played there a couple times so you're lebron no it was

Speaker 1 what do you mean way more than a couple times oh oh wait i don't know who were you talking about we're talking about the greatest player ever yeah who is that

Speaker 1 BMJ. Oh.

Speaker 1 You still got a year on your contract with the Bulls. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know.

Speaker 1 There should be more pitchforks out of here.

Speaker 4 You're setting the stage.

Speaker 1 It's 1A, 1B. I don't know.
You don't know which one? Yeah, I've got some really smart answers.

Speaker 1 I feel like somebody else asked me this.

Speaker 1 I wanted to say it was you, but I don't know if it was. It's like the new hot dog is a sandwich.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's not new. This has been going on.
No, I know, but I'm saying everyone asks this question and becomes

Speaker 1 first take when they just run out of stuff to talk about. Yeah, well, they're

Speaker 1 that's a whole nother conversation. Sports talk TV.

Speaker 4 Oh, what would you change?

Speaker 1 Oh, what would I change? Yeah, just the whole thing. What about us? Would you change us? No, no, no, y'all are fine.
Y'all are like third-party kind of like omniscient, you know,

Speaker 1 everything. Yeah, I wouldn't, I would have like specific sports stuff, like have to have former players talk about stuff.

Speaker 1 I don't hate that because there are definitely, I mean, we people that go through it and be the ones speaking on it.

Speaker 1 well the problem is i think what we try to do is we try to admit that we are really stupid before we say anything great disclaimer right a huge disclaimer that basically his

Speaker 1 entire career except for mj versus lebron we're we're very right about that okay but everyone else historians of the yeah people who don't admit that they're dumb before they say dumb stuff i could see how you'd be like you have no idea or after or at all you know or yeah general

Speaker 4 there's nothing at stake if you're wrong mad dog mad dog said he was going to retire if the uh if the Diamondbacks made the World Series.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they would.

Speaker 4 And he's like, come on, I was joking about that.

Speaker 1 Just kidding. I got three more years on my contract.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he would have high-stepped around the studio if he was right about it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's a fair point.

Speaker 4 I think having somebody at least in the conversation that's gone through it would probably be a good addition overall.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Are you a Cowboys fan?

Speaker 1 No, I'm not. I got friends that are.
We talked about this earlier. I don't have a favorite pro sports team.
I grew up in A ⁇ M, so like Maroon Kool-Aid from birth, and then I never caught on.

Speaker 1 I would always watch like the Texas teams, though. Like, growing up with basketball, I had, you know, like prime Texas basketball.
I had T-Mac Yao. I had Dirk.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 the Hall of Fame trio in San Antonio. So, like, I was, I was a fan of theirs, but, like, I didn't follow the teams.
Did you just try to say some of my friends are Cowboys fans?

Speaker 1 So you can relate to them?

Speaker 1 Are you allowed to do that? No, no, no.

Speaker 1 If they lose or win, I don't care. Okay.
Yeah, no, it makes no difference to me. I hate you, Cowboys fans.

Speaker 4 You don't care? You don't even take joy when they lose? That's the best part about not being a Cowboys fan.

Speaker 1 I take joy in my friend's misery. Yeah, okay, that's fair.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fine. Because that's me

Speaker 1 being a good friend. Like, if I didn't do that, you'd be a bad friend.
Yeah, if you're like, oh, I'm so sorry. Yeah.
Yeah. That would be lame.
All right. Well, I got one last question.

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Speaker 4 This has been awesome.

Speaker 1 We actually, once we get into playoff basketball, maybe when we have a question where we're the dumb people talking about it, we might have to hit you up and be like, hey, can you help us?

Speaker 1 Yeah, phone a friend. Yeah, phone a friend.
My last question, though, is,

Speaker 1 how many times do you think LeBron has read The Godfather?

Speaker 1 The book? Read The Godfather? Yeah, yeah. The book?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
How many times have you read it?

Speaker 1 Twice.

Speaker 1 Cover to cover. Yeah.
Huh. Have you seen him read?

Speaker 4 Right, cover to cover, you mean the front cover and the back cover.

Speaker 1 Have you seen him reading? No, I haven't. I haven't.

Speaker 4 Do you remember when he was photographed walking into the locker room and every time his bookmark was on the same page?

Speaker 1 Was that in the bubble when he had the book? I don't know.

Speaker 1 Then someone asked him, like, who his favorite characters were, and he was like, the Italian guy. I don't know if that's exactly what I know when, but.

Speaker 4 Let's see. LeBron asked what his favorite scene from The Godfather is.
Let's see what he says. I'm probably going to play a stupid ad before this.

Speaker 1 They're definitely going to. It's like the one where they kill everybody.
Oh, how awesome was it to play with J.R. Smith? Dude, Swish is the best.

Speaker 1 I play a lot of golf with him. Really? He's really good, right? Yeah, he's good.
When he's on, he's really good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was so chill. Dude,

Speaker 1 that was something while we're filling this time.

Speaker 1 Our team in the bubble had, you know,

Speaker 1 whenever you don't play in the games, you do these things called stay-ready runs. So, like, the guys that don't play will play pickup in the days to stay in shape in case they got to go in and play.

Speaker 1 And so, like,

Speaker 1 it would be, you know, Quinn Cook, Jared Dudley,

Speaker 1 Taylor Horton Tucker, J.R. Smith,

Speaker 1 Deion Waders, JaValen Dwight would get in there. Like, we had some like elite, elite pickup runs in the bubble when they weren't playing in between days.

Speaker 1 So, like, every now and then, like, I'd go in and get my work in, then I'd just sit there and watch them play. Yeah.
It's, dude, the shot-making ability for Deion and Swish. Yeah.
J.R.,

Speaker 1 when he would get hot, it was just like everything would go in. Yeah.
I mean, if he would have played,

Speaker 1 I mean, he did pretty well for himself. It's not like he had a bad career, like he had a very good career, but like, if he would have played in this era, it would have been

Speaker 1 talked about.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so here's what he got on on the Godfather. Let's see what he says.
Uh,

Speaker 1 not related to the game, but since it has been a lot of publicity yesterday and today about Godfather Part 2, is that the Godfather talking about the scene or the moment or the phrase or the quote you like more from the movie?

Speaker 1 Oh, from the Godfather.

Speaker 7 There's too many different phrases and too many different lines in that movie to just

Speaker 1 categorize one.

Speaker 1 But Quit is the one who quits. This guy Deli.

Speaker 1 He was fucking going at him. I've never seen this.

Speaker 7 Each movie is nine hours long.

Speaker 1 I mean, what do you want me to do?

Speaker 1 I mean, there's so many. I don't know.

Speaker 7 I'll let you pick one and I'll roll with it.

Speaker 1 It's a great trilogy.

Speaker 4 That's actually the biggest proof

Speaker 4 that he didn't watch them was that he said it's a great trilogy. Yeah.
It's a great one and two. Yeah.
The third one stinks.

Speaker 1 This is going to be a hot. I've never seen The Godfather or The Second One.
As an Italian? Yeah, I know. What the fuck? I know.

Speaker 1 I'll go home and watch it today. Are you Goodfellows guy? Not really.

Speaker 1 I don't watch a lot of TV. No, I've never seen that.
Oh, my God. I don't watch a lot of TV.
I watch sports. I watch YouTube.

Speaker 1 Max, what do you, I mean, Max, this is Italian discrimination by one of your own. That's going to be disappointing to me.
No, it's all right. Hell yeah, man.
Oh, you guys stick together?

Speaker 1 Max doesn't mean that. He's still trying to put in that Philly.

Speaker 1 No, I have. Godfather is like a thing that is on in my house during Thanksgiving, like every year, but I don't know any...

Speaker 1 I don't like know it like bar for bar like that. Like I like I don't like sit down and watch it all the time.
It's just always kind of on. It's like

Speaker 1 shooter. Yeah, that's hilarious that it's on.
It's on. It's like no, actually every Thanksgiving,

Speaker 1 in between football games, it's Godfather. Like, every Thanksgiving hilarious.

Speaker 4 It's like the radio in your house. It's just background noise.
Godfather.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you leave your house. You're like, oh, wait, you forgot to put off the Godfather.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know. They used to run it on AMC

Speaker 1 during every Thanksgiving, so it was an easy, like, flip back and forth, like, commercial, go to the Godfather, go back to the football game. It catches three minutes

Speaker 1 to the Godfather.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but then they stopped putting it on AMC, so we just we just run it like if there's if there's like a downtime in the football I think what you're doing is smart, by the way, Alex.

Speaker 4 You're definitely not saying anything bad about LeBron today, just in case. No, great guy.
Yeah. Just in case.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, this has been awesome, man.

Speaker 1 Long overdue. One question.

Speaker 1 Are y'all made up after the Jesuits? Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I was a bitch. There was a lot of build-up to that, but then we didn't get to see.
Yeah, well, he was at the game. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I was more mad at how you were. You were yelling at that dude, but that guy was a piece of shit.

Speaker 1 He sounded like we made friends.

Speaker 1 I was also. Yeah, well, it's like, have you ever had classic tough guy falling back scene? Yeah, that you sit down.

Speaker 4 He didn't think I was going to stand up to you.

Speaker 4 And then when I did, he kind of respected it. It's like, you know, sometimes you butt heads with somebody.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Then you become friends.

Speaker 4 I also was

Speaker 1 never mad at PFT. I was only mad at Hank.
No, that's fair. Yeah, I remember seeing him.
Because Hank is annoying. And when his teams lose, he just doesn't talk.
Well, so that was the part of it.

Speaker 1 Playwise McQuiet today. Yeah, right.

Speaker 4 So actually, that's a good question.

Speaker 4 How many players are there in the NBA that you could put on Wisconsin and win the national championship? Because they got beat by

Speaker 4 12 series.

Speaker 1 I will say, it might have been me because I didn't watch Wisconsin play all year, and apparently you had a pretty good year. Decent.
Decent. And then the only game I watched all year was the worst.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It looked like they didn't know how to play basketball.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 it was not great. No, it was not.
That was probably the game that you're like, yeah, I can't watch college basketball. Yeah, it was funny.
The first half was tough.

Speaker 1 I mean, they didn't know how to play basketball. First half was tough.
They were so bad. But yeah, it was only Hank because he's just like, when his teams lose, he doesn't even watch.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I remember seeing

Speaker 1 some of the live stream stuff from the first weekend. There was a lot of animosity in the

Speaker 1 den, the better.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, you probably also saw the live streams this year in football season. You probably didn't see Hank.
Yes. The Patriots sucked.
So he didn't watch. It's nice.

Speaker 1 You know, a clip I stumbled upon the other day was Hank jumping into the pool and then running into the house. Yeah, Cowboys fan.

Speaker 1 Slamming into the wall. Yeah.
Huge decrease. That's weird.
He was a lot more lively when that team lost for him.

Speaker 10 It was fun.

Speaker 4 We had to make

Speaker 1 a lemonade out of lemons.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Cowboys fans have been doing that for a while.
Yeah, that's true. All right.
Well, Caruso, thank you so much, man.

Speaker 1 Awesome having you on. We got to have you back on.
Hell yeah. Especially because you live not too far from here.
Yeah, it's been long overdue. We also got a - I know we're doing our court.

Speaker 1 We're doing a mini golf tournament next week, so they're changing it, but we have to come have you come and those are electric, by the way. I've watched those on YouTube.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're going to do one all live next week, but we should have you come and have me.

Speaker 1 Are you doing it at the... Here, they're building it here.
Oh, in here. Yeah.
If you want to come do a practice round, you can do it. Yeah, you can.
If you're around, you can do a practice round.

Speaker 4 What's your game like?

Speaker 1 We'll do a pro-am. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm probably better at real golf than putt-putt, but like, I compete, you know. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yak gauntlet, he sees. Yeah, you had a good time.
Was it 246? 246? I mean, that's pretty good. Pretty damn good.
He almost tripped over the

Speaker 1 roughing the passer from the bags board. If you had gotten hurt,

Speaker 1 it would have been

Speaker 1 a tough sell.

Speaker 1 Move back to New York. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, thanks so much, man.
Appreciate it. Appreciate it, guys.
Thanks, man.

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Speaker 1 Okay, let's wrap it up. We got Fire Fest of the week.
Hank?

Speaker 1 Yeah, my Fire Fest has

Speaker 1 tried to

Speaker 1 do something fun for the company.

Speaker 1 Got a mini golf tournament built. Some are saying it's the only idea I have.
That's fine.

Speaker 1 Who said that? Nick.

Speaker 1 He wrote an intro for it, and it's like, mini golf, the only idea Henry Locke has ever had. And I was like, oh, damn.
I did the Lawns of Morning. Kind of hurts, yeah.
But kind of true.

Speaker 1 It's kind of true.

Speaker 1 But now I'm just getting heat because there's a bunch of dick holes yeah dick dick looks yeah i mean you died into that very foul

Speaker 1 holes and i probably it's maybe a bit of an oversight but there are probably five or six solid like the outline of the holes

Speaker 4 look like dicks you should call that uh two men corner if they're docking each other yeah that's a good idea yeah hank also

Speaker 1 had He's come up to me probably.

Speaker 1 What are you going to say? I know what you're going to say. What do you think I'm going to say? About practicing? Yeah, so Hank has come up to me probably

Speaker 1 10 times in the last four days

Speaker 1 asking me the same question every single time. And I give him the same answer every time.
And then he comes back to me like two hours later.

Speaker 1 He's like, but what, like, maybe what if I could, what if we could practice more? The issue is. A bunch of people are flying in for this.
They're flying in late Tuesday.

Speaker 1 They only have a chance to practice once. Hank is like, but can everyone else just practice before that?

Speaker 1 And I'm like, no, if we're going to do it, you know that people will complain if everyone gets to, if people get to practice more than others.

Speaker 4 Well, Hank would never do that at a mini golf tournament. Get there early.

Speaker 1 And he keeps coming up to me asking me if there's any way that other people, Hank, can practice more.

Speaker 4 And I'm like, we have to keep it consistent.

Speaker 1 And he just thinks that I'm going to change. my answer depending on the day.

Speaker 4 Hank's definitely going to practice late at night. He's going to sneak back in.

Speaker 4 We need to check out the security. Can you have some questions?

Speaker 1 I won't. No, I play by the rules.
If you really want to get get a peek inside my mind, I understand and I respect the decision. I understand why it happened.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 it's going up against Dave,

Speaker 1 Ryan Whitney, and Kirk Minahan, who are impossible to argue with.

Speaker 1 My hope, a little bit, maybe, was like, maybe Big Cat will fight the fight for me, and then I can kind of get in his ear, like, you know, Draymond Green. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But that, that, but I've, I've tested the waters and pickets many times. But many times, you said.

Speaker 4 What motivation do you think Big Cat would have to go to play? He wants to practice.

Speaker 1 I know. And that's my, I'm saying, like, that's.
Oh, you thought I did. Maybe.
No, one practice is more than enough.

Speaker 4 Honestly, Hank, the correct thought about this tournament is I don't care if I practice before

Speaker 4 we're going to go out there. We're going to play.

Speaker 1 I don't want to practice to win. I just want it's fun.
Like, we have a mini golf course set up. Like, I want to play.
Well, you want to practice to win.

Speaker 1 I don't care as much about winning as much as when we have a mini golf course in the office. Like, I am a child.
I'm like, I want to play with this mini golf course. Yeah.
But it's fine.

Speaker 1 I respect that. But it is,

Speaker 1 that might just be my fire presence. Hank just keeps asking me the same question.
I keep giving him the same answer. Then he comes back and he's like, but what about? Thankfully, we're gone.

Speaker 1 I will say that, too. We're gone this weekend.
Otherwise, intrusive thoughts may have taken place. You would have been here practicing.
For sure.

Speaker 4 100% you'd be here. But we're not.

Speaker 4 I think you've already practiced.

Speaker 1 I haven't. Secretly.
No,

Speaker 1 I respect the rules. I've just been maybe lobbying.

Speaker 4 I swear to God, you haven't practiced yet. I swear to God, I haven't taken a situation.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to. I understand how much people are going to bitch about this, so I have not.
I've just been trying to maybe change legislation in the court unsuccessfully. Unsuccessfully.

Speaker 1 I'm definitely getting asked that at least two more times. No, we're not going to be back.
By the time we're back, it's practice run day.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but you're going to be like, oh, I practiced once, but can I practice again? No, no, it's over.

Speaker 1 We've made it. Our flights tonight.
We're good. We're done practicing.

Speaker 4 Did Hank design this entire tournament just so that he could practice mini-golf? Yes.

Speaker 1 No, it's just it was a good idea I had.

Speaker 1 Mini golf. Hits the mini golf button.
Hank, what ideas you got? Mini golf. It's going to bega golf.
Mega golf. Ooh, I like mega golf.

Speaker 4 Which is just regular golf.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. Mega golf.
No, it's got to be bigger than regular golf. With bigger holes.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Longer holes, bigger holes. Yeah.
Bigger clubs.

Speaker 4 That would be fun. Yeah.
I would play mega golf.

Speaker 1 Mega golf should be awesome. But yeah, so next week is going to be great.

Speaker 1 Wednesday will be

Speaker 1 Wednesday morning will be round one. Wednesday afternoon will be round two.
Then a cut. Wednesday night, prime time will be round three.

Speaker 1 And then we're saving the final round for Thursday night after the Masters. So people don't have to choose between us and the Masters.

Speaker 4 I think we'd probably lose that fight.

Speaker 1 DFT.

Speaker 4 Speaking of changing legislation, Hank, my firefest of the week is that Billy Football is running for Congress.

Speaker 4 So what started out as encouraging Billy to run for George Santos's seat, or excuse me, run against George Santos for Congress is turned into Billy seriously doing

Speaker 4 a campaign to get elected to New York's third district to the point where today he was interviewed on Fox News. I thought he did well on Fox News.

Speaker 4 I thought he did a pretty good job,

Speaker 4 all things considered.

Speaker 4 The lady came after him right off the start and said, You're not really running. No, I regret to inform you: Billy Football is 100% legitimately running for this seat.
And

Speaker 4 my firefest is that I feel like Oppenheimer, that

Speaker 4 by putting this into motion, I've affected the course of the United States for the foreseeable future. Yeah, it's scary.
It's a scary thought.

Speaker 4 It also would be the perfect ending to like a part of my take documentary where it shows like where are they now, like at the end of Animal House, where it's like, oh, Big Cat, PFT, Hanker doing this.

Speaker 4 Billy Football went on to serve eight terms in Congress and is now running for vice president. Yeah.
Like I could see that, I could see that scenario panning out.

Speaker 4 He is taking it seriously. So if you want to read more about Billy running for Congress, go to billcotterforcongress.com, I guess.

Speaker 1 I could see Billy, maybe the story ends like Billy gets elected to Congress and then creates a law that bans podcasting and shuts

Speaker 1 forever.

Speaker 1 Or podcast libraries. Yeah.
So he's like, you can only have your podcast live for 24 hours. You're a podcaster, you're a criminal.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 I would actually take it one step further, Hank. I would say that he could put us all in prison.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 I'm rooting for Billy's Billy's ultimate revenge is just throwing us into a CIA black side.

Speaker 1 I'm rooting for Billy to get to a point where he has to debate, and then I'm also rooting for Billy to win, and then some big scandal takes him down.

Speaker 1 Like, I want him to just live the George Santos story arc. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Perfect. Except he's stealing frogs from the difference.

Speaker 1 And then he would also just make us call him like Congressman Bill Cotter for the rest of his life.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that would be funny. I also hope that this ends.
It'd be awesome if he lost, but then he did election fraud and campaign for four years to try to get the results overturned. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Because somebody screwed him over of his votes.

Speaker 1 It's going to be sad. And we also found out his middle name is Biddle.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 That was a shocker. I still can't believe it.

Speaker 1 I can't believe it.

Speaker 4 Bad job on our part not uncovering that years ago. Biddle.

Speaker 1 And you know that Billy's going to be like, don't make fun of it. It's my mom's

Speaker 1 name from some English old person. But it's still Biddle.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And it's not like that's a weird name. It's the fact that it's Billy Biddle.
Yeah. That's the weird part.
Yep. It's not a normal name.
No, it's not.

Speaker 1 No, but you know, you know, his answer would be that, like, English something or other. Yeah.
I want him to win.

Speaker 1 Listen, he, he's running on common sense. Dudes can't buy houses anymore.
Let's fix that.

Speaker 1 I think the article that was written about him, he's like, everyone can see there's problems, and I see these problems and face value.

Speaker 1 That was it. That was it.
But he sees the problems.

Speaker 4 So his website, which is this is Bill Cotter for Congress 1.0, 2.0 will be coming out later where it kind of expands on his basic talking points for his campaign. But his campaign is,

Speaker 4 I like the good things. Yeah.
So if you like good stuff, then I'm a good guy to vote into office. Remember when life rocked?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 So, I mean,

Speaker 4 I'm proud of Billy for taking it seriously, but at the same time, I'm like, dear God.

Speaker 1 No, I mean, the craziest part about it. He's worked more in three weeks off his campaign than he did his entire career.
Correct.

Speaker 4 He literally said that. He said, said, I've never worked harder than I have over the past week.

Speaker 1 It also is,

Speaker 1 it's a sad state of like American politics that like I saw, I've read everything Billy's written and I saw him on TV and I was like, he's actually not a bad option.

Speaker 1 He isn't. I honestly don't think he's that bad of an option.

Speaker 4 He would not be the most incompetent congressman.

Speaker 1 Right, exactly. That's that.

Speaker 4 Without a doubt.

Speaker 1 I'm inching closer and closer to a full endorsement. I haven't gotten there yet because he's running up against a guy named Jim Toes.
So I want to see what Jim Toes has to say.

Speaker 1 But we're getting closer to a full Billy endorsement for me. Yep.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's something. It's something to take in.

Speaker 1 I hope we also get to a point where it's like that we have to, like, he gets the delegation of the riders and Jerry's Army and the Minifans. Like, he's got to actually pander for the endorsement.

Speaker 4 The best part of the interview was today when they asked him

Speaker 4 if he is supporting Donald Trump for president. Yeah.
And he goes, yes, I would accept

Speaker 4 Donald Trump's support if he gave it it to me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he flipped it on him, yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, Billy, you can't teach that, no, you can't, but yeah, like you know, when it used to be that, like, ooh, the Washington Post has decided who they're they're backing, yeah, I need that for like Jerry's army has come to their decision.

Speaker 1 Yep, the Minifans are ready to say who they are backing.

Speaker 4 So, this concerns me a little bit. Max just brought up Jim Toes' website, yeah.
So, Billy's running on the common sense platform. Oh, no, Jim Toes platform is

Speaker 4 hardcore common sense, that's way more more common sense. Billy, how can you get more hardcore than hardcore?

Speaker 1 You can't. Hardcore common sense.
The fact that he spells his name like actual toes. Yeah.
I was just assuming it was like Jonathan Taves.

Speaker 4 No, his name

Speaker 4 literally means athlete's foot.

Speaker 4 So Billy's got to go mega hardcore common sense.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hardcore common sense beats common sense every day. Foot fetish.

Speaker 4 What about hardcore common sense?

Speaker 1 What about NSFW common sense? Yeah. Yeah.
It's so common sense you won't even be able to show your colleagues. Yeah.
His name translates to foot sex.

Speaker 1 This guy also, does he live in the middle of the moment of Jim is that? Does he live in the district?

Speaker 1 He lives in the district

Speaker 4 problem. Jimmy Toes.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 That or athlete's foot.

Speaker 4 If it's GYM.

Speaker 1 True. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 My Firefest.

Speaker 4 Have you contributed to Billy Football for Congress?

Speaker 1 I haven't decided yet.

Speaker 4 I haven't. I haven't yet.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I also think that that he probably doesn't have his financials set up that I would assume that I would just get robbed. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think he probably would just get recurring payments from me.

Speaker 4 Yeah, this is, it is very similar to the plot line of Jonah and Veep.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I also have to watch my finances because I don't know if you know it's Hogs for the College season, so I got hit up pretty hard.

Speaker 4 I did know that, yeah. Yeah, I got hit up pretty hard.
Who hits you up this year?

Speaker 1 Ben Mintz. Okay.
Yeah. So

Speaker 1 it's costly being his friend. Very costly.

Speaker 1 My Fire Fest. Oh, actually, I've had a pretty good week, but we have to, we have our wings date with Stanford Steve.
We don't have a wings place.

Speaker 1 So anyone who's in Arizona, tell me the best wings place. I got one.
Oh, okay. So then I don't have a fire fest.

Speaker 4 I got a really good one. Yep.
I don't say it. Okay.

Speaker 1 Also, I got an email from my daughter's school that said that there was a bout of diarrhea going around, and if you have three diarrhea, you're out. for the day.

Speaker 1 And I was like, that would suck if we had that here.

Speaker 4 That's a lot of diarrhea.

Speaker 1 I'd be out. Yeah, we'd all be out.

Speaker 1 I saw that email. I was like, wait, they have a three-strike diarrhea policy? That's wild.
Crazy.

Speaker 1 It wasn't my daughter, so, but still, like, just the idea of being anywhere where three diarrhea would get me kicked out, I would be scared to go anywhere.

Speaker 4 Swimming pool. Swimming pool is like if you had a diet.
Hot tubs, yeah. If you've had diarrhea within the last year, you're not going to be able to get it.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, hot tubs, I don't. Listen.

Speaker 1 That's not.

Speaker 4 Hot tub is pretty much a bath. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And it does say, if you come in here, don't have diarrhea. It's like, bro, I always have diarrhea.

Speaker 6 So that's not, we're not doing that uh all right jake finish us off yeah on a similar note uh the other day i was in the bathroom and the lights just went off yeah yeah they do that when there's not enough movement so i was sitting too long and it just got pitch black and i had to turn on my flashlight oh no yeah that's rough that's rough it's happened to me a couple times yeah me too yeah that's when you we need to change those timers it's very quick yeah it's just hanging out you're hanging out too long Yeah, I'm pooping in here.

Speaker 4 But it's nice when somebody walks in and you're just like, thank you. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I kind of like pooping in the dark. Yeah, but you got to clean up.
You want to unpack that real quick?

Speaker 1 There's something about just like. You just don't want to see yourself? Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I can see that.

Speaker 1 Yes. And you can focus.
Right.

Speaker 1 Like, I've done it in my

Speaker 1 apartment before. Just like it's dark.
I'll just, I am pooping in. You straight away.
Yeah. If you wake up in the middle of the night, you have to shit.
I never turn the lights. Yes, exactly.

Speaker 1 It'll wake you up. Yes.
Seeing yourself does suck. I actually, a real firefest is I have not gotten the toenail polish off my toes from Arch Madness a month ago.

Speaker 1 And every morning I wake up and I'm like, oh, fuck. And I'm just too lazy.
I just don't.

Speaker 4 How much toenail polish is still on there?

Speaker 1 All of it.

Speaker 4 Are you serious?

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's all of it.

Speaker 1 I just assumed that it faded away.

Speaker 1 No, you can use.

Speaker 1 My wife gave me the toenail polish remover, and I started to do it, and it took fucking forever, and I just gave up. And I was like, I'll just.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I guess next time I go to a pool, it's going to be.
I guess we could. Yeah, I probably could.
This could be a problem this weekend. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Max. Well, maybe it's just Cale Williams.

Speaker 1 Cale Williams.

Speaker 4 Max, do you take your shirt off when you poop?

Speaker 4 Never. Never.
You seem like a guy who would.

Speaker 1 No, I try to keep my shirt on

Speaker 1 as often as possible.

Speaker 1 That's another thing. Sometimes I'll shower in the dark because I don't want to see myself.
That's dangerous. That's

Speaker 1 not fully dark. Don't shower in the dark? Not fully.

Speaker 4 It's kind of relaxing, actually.

Speaker 1 Well, it's like if it's daytime and I don't have windows, but like like I'll like open my door a little bit and then the natural light will come through.

Speaker 4 Yeah, like a tiny bit of light in the shower.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like a tiny bit of light in the shower. It's like a meditation.

Speaker 1 It's like relaxing. Yeah, it's relaxing.
All right. Good show, boys.
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