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Today is Friday, March 29th. And the R.J.
Davis-Caleb Love rivalry game was stopped by R.J. Davis and Caleb Love.
So they went a combined 0 for 18 from three. Oh, am I reading that right? Yeah, it was the first time ever.
I saw the stat. It was the first time ever.
So Caleb Love 0 for 9 from three. R.J.
Davis 0 for 9 from three. first time any two players have have shot over nine or worse from three on the same day in the ncaa tournament and arizona and unc are going home yeah and unc as big as any of those missed threes was uh baycott's missed dunk that's why number one i don't dunk number two uh two-handed layup counts the same yeah same amount of points yeah I mean that game was incredible UNC Alabama was incredible uh and it came down to yeah Baycott's dunk but to me it was more uh Withers shooting a three with a minute left I don't know why that guy was shooting that three with 10 seconds left on the shot clock when they were up one with a minute left and then again it always comes down to this like Baycott was an absolute monster on the boards and he gets his third foul with like 14 minutes left Hubert Davis pulls him for four or five minutes and I'm not like I think they played about even but what Baycott was doing on the offensive glass defensive glass like they could not guard him pick and roll it just completely changed the complexion of the game and I don't know why you don't say hey look you're you're a 10th year senior you can stay out there and not foul and just do you know still be a positive for us grabbing up all the boards running pick and roll and Bama deserves all the credit though Grant Nelson was incredible Grant Nelson was an absolute force Double-double.
Even had the block at the end of the game

with like .6 seconds left, the four-court heave.

Yeah. I don't know if he tried to miss that last foul shot.

I was saying that he should just because, yeah,

don't let him set up anything to run a play.

Even if you're just inbounding it from underneath your own basket,

just let him try to huck it, and then he swatted him.

That was a great play by him. Awesome mustache for that guy.

Awesome mustache.

North Dakota State.

He should be on the North Dakota State flag, actually.

That should just be his face Devil's Lake North Dakota Devil's Lake so Alabama marching on that was it was an incredible game I mean this is what we all expected that we'd get some sweet 16 games that were awesome. Clemson beats Arizona.
Arizona runs one of the weirdest game plans ever, where Tommy Lloyd is, I think, a good coach, but then they have these games in the tournament where they were just chucking threes. I don't think they guarded a guy off the ball once all night.
They were just back-cutting. Clemson was back-cutting Arizona to death.
And then you had, on top of all of it, they cut the lead and just not deciding whether to foul or not and then having someone leak out and one with 15 seconds left, game over. What did Rick Pitino teach us? The lost art of the bounce pass.
Clemson brought the bounce pass back. They were feeding that dude down low low running that like Princeton backdoor cut and Arizona didn't even pretend like they wanted to defend it they were just like okay tell you what we'll give up two points because we're going to go down court we're going to shoot a three fun fact about the Arizona Wildcats they have now lost to a team seated at least four spots below them in each of their last six NCAA tournament appearances that's the the longest streak since seeding began in 1979.
Damn. Yeah, it does feel like every year we're like, hey, Arizona, watch out.
They're so good. They have all these athletes.
Balo's a problem. And yet again, they're going home earlier than they expected.
And Clemson, those Clemson Tigers PFT. I think Alabama's going to run them out of the gym.

You know what?

They were fucking good.

It was a cute little win.

Cute little win that Clemson had.

You ran up against a team that couldn't make a three-point shot.

Alabama's going to just score 120 points on you. They were running some awesome offense where they're just getting easy looks at the basket.

Yeah, no, they're going to continue to do that, I think, against Alabama. Yeah.
But I'm going to stick to our guns on this podcast. I think they're going to get smoked.
I think Clemson, great story. How condescending can we be towards Clemson right now? Well, we could say the teams that could win the tournament as of right now, it's Alabama, it's UConn, it's Illinois, it's Purdue, Gonzaga.
Tennessee. Tennessee and Creighton Houston and Duke and NC State Marquette I would say but not Clemson NC State team of destiny Marquette Shaka Smart proven winner I think Clemson it's a good story they had kind of America's sweethearts nobody saw it coming they the tournament.
A lot of people, not us, said they shouldn't be in the tournament. But I think clock has struck midnight on the Clemson Tigers.
Yeah. Also, shout out.
There's a big golf tournament this weekend. We had Siwoo Kim Tracker give us an update.
He said, Elite 8 bound. Fuck you.
PFT commenter, Barstool Big Cat, Philly Mays. Yep.

We've made a very powerful enemy. I fucking love this track.

He's the only tracker that I want to step outside of golf

because that is such an aggressive tweet that I tip my hat

and be like, that made me laugh out loud when I saw it.

So wait, on Saturday when Clemson's playing,

is there any chance they play an early game?

I would love it if it was like back-to-back tweets about like

Siwoo Kim in the rough off hole number nine. Joe Girard for three.
Yeah, exactly. I want to be going back and forth between Siwoo Kim updates and Clemson basketball updates.
Switching back and forth. Clemson, they did run perfect offense tonight, and Arizona is a joke.
They just chucked. What did Arizona end up shooting for three? They just kept every possession.
Five of 28. Five of 28.
Every possession for Arizona felt like when you're playing in a long, terrible game of pickup and you're at 13 points, and then you're like, all right, let's just shoot a million threes when you could have gotten a couple layups. But you're like, no, let's just keep chucking threes and try to end it this way.
They're playing like they were tired. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
They're like, let's get out of here. Let's just try to win this game by hitting a bunch of threes that we're not going to hit.
Yeah, it was a very weird game plan, and their defense stunk tonight. So I think at the very least, we have an Elite Eight matchup between Alabama and Clemson

where one of the two teams will go to the Final Four for the first time.

Yeah.

And probably the best football matchup that you can get.

Yeah.

I'd love to watch that football game on Saturday.

Yeah.

They should just replay the Hunter Renfro National Championship game.

Yeah.

In the other bracket, we should talk about UConn and their path of destruction. So here is UConn's last eight tournament games.

nine tournament games now.

24-point win, 15-point win, 23-point win, 28-point win, 13-point win,

17-point win, 39-point win, 17-point win.

And the craziest stat of all is UConn has won nine straight tournament games.

Andrew Hurley has recorded a minute in every single one of those games yeah I would say maybe a crazier says that UConn has won nine straight tournament games despite the fact that the committee is doing everything they can to prevent Danny Hurley and his team from moving on I love Danny Hurley so much so much he was he got pissed at his player for hitting a three and a minute left. So about that, I do have a bone to pick with Danny Hurley.
I'll say something nice about him, and then I'll unleash my gripe. Something nice about Danny Hurley, I think he's right on the money.
He said after the game that they need to show his wife on TV more. Yeah.
I respectfully agree with Danny Hurley. I like her necklace.
She has a a blinged out husky necklace that looks awesome i i did not see her necklace but i'll try to notice it next time i agree danny hurley again respectfully respectfully um i'd knock it out of the park respectfully with all due respect all due respect stan van gundy uh and then yeah go ahead yeah the other part is uh my gripe with him let shoot. Let your son take a three.
I know you guys are winning these games by a lot of points, but let Andrew put up a shot with, like, 60 seconds left. I think he did put up a couple shots against Stetson, I want to say.
But, yeah, I agree. He's on the sidelines being, like, be classy, be classy.
I get it. The people want Andrew Hurley to make a three.
I agree. He, yeah, he went, oh, no, he hasn't gotten a shot.
He recorded a foul against Stetson. He has not gotten a shot this tournament, but he got a couple last tournament.
I agree. Let him get a shot.
Let him get a shot. Maybe he's doing it because he knows that his son is also going to be an outstanding coach one day.
Yeah. wants his son to not let his grandson yeah but i feel like i if you were to ask the uh the patriarch of the family like the grandfather probably wants the grandson to make a shot right yeah but the dad doesn't right so by instilling these values into andrew hurley danny hurley is actually preventing his own future happiness watching his grandson make a shot in an NCAA tournament.
Right, but it's tough Hurley love, and UConn is just an absolute monster right now. Is this your worst nightmare, Max? Nah, I mean, it is what it is.
Because if they go back-to-back like this, the way they're going, that's way more impressive than Nova's two titles. Oh, yeah.
I mean, at this point, it doesn't even matter. They're just so far ahead of us in every facet of history, standings in the Big East, future, present, afterlife, everything.
I mean, everyone's Bitcoin this, this shit coin that UConn

UConn just all they do is just kill teams

by a million we're doing like

Colin Coward but UConn is like

Apple stock it is

it's like Amazon it's fucking

insane how good they are and they have

an answer for everything and I don't even think they played like

an A plus game tonight and that

was it was like San Diego State

it was like 10

10 or something and then you looked up

Thank you. answer for everything and I don't even think they played like an A plus game tonight and that was it was like San Diego State uh it was like 10-10 or something and then you looked up and it was a nine-point lead and then you looked up and it was a 20-point lead and I was like okay San Diego State pulled their starters with four minutes left the problem is we haven't seen UConn like I haven't paid that close to I've been watching the scores of UConn games more than I've been watching the actual on-court action.
They have an answer for everything.

They have dudes everywhere. Dudes.
They can play any style you want to play. They've got a monster down low.
They've got guards that can hit shots. They just do everything.
And, yeah, it's going to be actually – so I was rooting for Illinois not because of Big Ten but because I wanted to see Illinois versus UConn, which we get now in the Elite Eight. because if there's one person who could possibly stop UConn,

it's the way that Terrence Shannon is playing basketball right now. He's unreal.
He's out of – it's like insane. He needs to make his foul shots, though.
Oh, their whole team needs to make their foul shots. That was – the fact that Illinois won a Sweet 16 game going 15 for 29 from the free throw line, like they should have won that game by 10 points plus and we we talked about this on sunday i think that the tournament you can't not everyone can be yukon where it's like every game you roll out and you're winning by double digits some teams are gonna have to survive a b minus game and that's what it felt like illinois did tonight and they Iowa State very tough team and Illinois like that DeMass and Terrence Shannon and Coleman Hawkins I know that UConn's going to be favorites I know UConn can probably waste anyone but this game is going to be so awesome on Saturday.
It's going to be great yeah and Underwood is coaching his dick off too. I love him.
Yeah. Booty ball.
Booty ball. He's coaching booty ball.
Throwing his ass into him left and right. Left and right.
It's good. It's good for the sport.
I did not know why is it Otzelberger or Otzelberger? Otzelberger. Otzelberger wears the tight polo shirts.
He's like a Wisconsin guy. He's a wrestler I so i i looked it up and uh he wears actually a medium oh he wears a size between small and medium and the reason why he does it is to emphasize accountability to his team i like that is what he says it's the best coach talk ever so he says that uh the the polo gives me a greater sense of self-discipline each day that I wear the same size and opt for that.

It helps me stay as disciplined and as accountable as I need to be our program wearing that shirt.

So he wears it so that he can't put on weight.

I love it.

Which is a smart move.

Yeah.

And then if that size becomes too small for you, then you know that you fucked up and you weren't accountable.

I do the exact opposite and I only wear black sweatshirts.

Yeah.

I'm being the least accountable I could be. I like in this situation uh but yeah great games i can't wait for tonight's games uh should we do some picks for tonight's game should we talk about oh hank what do you got in front of you got the coors light ice luge yeah glass slipper yeah there you go that looks good a pft commenter idea come to life nice yeah you pour the beer right in there i remember that meeting yeah you do you do a shooey out of it yeah when you're when your cinderella moves on you want to do a shooey out of it yeah shooey maybe we'll do it right before the izzo interview let's do that because it'll be the it would be the last thing we do before we kick it to izzo uh i did one earlier.
Very, very cold. Turns out ice, extremely cold.

Yes.

The coldest.

Whoa.

Well, is it the coldest?

Is ice the coldest you can get?

No, you can get colder than ice.

Can you?

Yeah.

Coors Light.

That's true.

That's a fact.

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Okay, what do we like?

I shit out on my phone.

I think I left it in the couch.

Can you pass my phone?

I think it's, I left it in the couch.

You just look under one of those.

Oh, I think it's under the cushion.

The cushion.

Yep, there it is.

There's my phone.

Can you pass me my phone, Hank?

Thank you. I left it in the couch.
You just look under one of those. Oh, I think it's under the cushion.
The cushion. Yep.
There it is. There's my phone.
Can you pass me my phone, Hank? Here, I'll come get my phone. All right.
Oh, there you go. Yeah.
Here's my new phone. That's your normal phone that you've always had.
My normal phone. I've always had this phone.
Are you wearing lipstick? No, that's just the hue of my lips. Okay.
So, yeah. All right.
So, let me look up on my normal phone.

What is it for people who are listening?

Oh, people who are listening?

It's a beautiful pink phone case.

Always been a case guy.

I don't know.

I've always been a case guy. I've always been a pink case guy.

I think that this is the height of masculinity, and it screams, if I were to have to lead

a locker room, I would.

Would you guys feel like I'm leading this locker room right now?

I don't know.

Yeah.

Look at this.

I don't know if I can think.

I don't even think that's the right case.

Wait.

Hold on.

Hold on.

Hold on.

I'm going to locker room right now?

I don't know. Yeah, look at this.
I don't know if I can think that. I don't even think that's the right case.
Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. It looks like it blocks the panels.
I bought the wrong one. Watch this.
Now do I feel like I'm leading a locker room? No, it seems like you're. Yeah, it does.
It seems like you're very Gen Z. Yeah, no, I bought the wrong one.
It doesn't fit. Yeah.
anyway

I like the

Gonzaga Purdue over

154.5. Okay.
I love, love, love. I gave Purdue as my mega max lock of the first round.
That hit easily, and it's been overtaken by Gonzaga money line. Oh.
Okay. I love, love, love, love.
Feeling froggy? Love it. Hank is very simple.
He sees a plus sign, and he's like, I like that better. Yeah.
It's more money. I love.
Froggy, but. What? Why frog? You feeling froggy? I don't know.
Yeah, sure. A little froggy? I don't understand the reference, but.
I don't either, but it sounds good, doesn't it? You feeling a little froggy? Sure. Sure.
Why don't you leap? Okay. Done.
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Boys, so we have these games.

Wait, Hank, are you going to be Duke Hank?

Very important question.

Yeah.

You're going to go all in.

I'll be in.

Not all in.

I don't have any gear.

Yeah, I'm not all in.

You don't have any gear?

No, I told you.

When I moved, I got rid of some clothes,

and I had one Duke sweatshirt, and that didn't make the cut.

Do you have anything from, like, Brooks Brothers?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, just... You don't have any gear? No, I told you.
When I moved, I got rid of some clothes, and I had one Duke sweatshirt, and that didn't make the cut.

Do you have anything from, like, Brooks Brothers?

Yeah.

Yeah, just wear a collared shirt and talk down to us.

Any loafers?

Yeah, I actually have a nice, super douchey white and blue pinstriped.

Oh, perfect.

Yeah, you should do that.

Perfect.

And then make everybody want to punch you in the face.

Yeah. Easy.
Yeah. Yeah, very.
yeah very just exist yeah just walk in the room um should we talk a little baseball it is opening day let's talk ball we should talk ball seam heads we get it so we want to do some we'll do our full uh baseball preview in the coming weeks but we should probably give our picks for the world series also i want to say i'm starting to think maybe Shohei Otani does have a gambling problem. I'm coming back to your side, Pia.
Yeah, because have you thought more about the fact that when you do a wire transfer, somebody hits you up and says, like, hey, you need to authorize this? I was really banking on the forensic accountants, and I still don't really understand what they do. And so when I was thinking about it more, I was was like what if these forensic accountants don't figure it out so once the forensic accountants got involved did you also consider the fact that uh number one you get you get a text notification or an email from the bank yeah but he might i'd show his he might be like have given this guy his fucking account and then two have you have you thought about the fact that to get forensic accountants involved, you have to press charges against somebody.
And as of at least yesterday afternoon, there's no record of any charges being pressed. I will say, though, I do think the MLB is just going to sweep it under the rug.
Of course they will. Yeah, it's almost done.
I'm telling you. I think it might be done.
They're going to reinstate Pete Rose. Yeah.
And they'll be like, under the new rules, Shohei did very little wrong. So we're going to, under our new rules, Shohei is still eligible to play.
We should do our first round of Dingers Only draft. Just the first round? That's what we're going to do, right? Take one player, was it one player a week? Ooh, I kind of like doing the whole draft at once.
We talked about doing one player a week for the first nine weeks of the season.

Hmm.

I feel like that's going to be kind of like the dynasty recap that we did.

Just get it over with all at once.

Yeah.

No, I think that's probably people are going to be pissed about that.

I think we got to do one pick per show.

No.

Yeah.

I think we got to just do a dingers only draft.

Okay.

When, when the time comes, we'll know it.

It's going to take show.

Hey, we'll feel it when it happens.

Like we'll feel it being like, oh shit, there's nothing else.

Let's just... got to just do a dingers only draft okay when when the time comes we'll know it it's gonna take show hey we'll feel it when it happens like we'll feel it being like oh shit there's nothing else to talk about dingers only time yeah but baseball's back one soto mvp yankees world series that was a sick put out from right field that was great tyler o'neill who i didn't even know what team he played for uh our boss dave texted me this He said he's hit a home run four straight opening days.

He hit a home run for his fifth straight opening day. Pretty incredible.
Pretty nuts.

So what do we got for

World Series picks? I have

a future that I put in DraftKings that I liked

a lot. First time World Series

winner. So either the

Rockies, Brewers, Padres, Mariners, or

Rays. So that's the Rockies.

Rockies lost

by 16. Diamondbacks had a

14 run inning. So Rockies are

All right. Rockies, Brewers, Padres, Mariners, or Rays.
So that's the Rockies. Rockies lost by 16.
Diamondbacks had a 14-run inning. 14-run inning.
So Rockies are out. The Rockies have a pitcher who's, I think his ERA is 168 right now.
Yeah, who else? Brewers. Out.
Pods. Maybe.
Pods. Okay.
It's going to be the Pods. Who else? Mariners.
Maybe. Yeah, they get bad luck.
Rays. Yeah.
It's pods and rays. Okay.
Pods and rays and maybe Mariners. Yeah.
Okay. Great sports down.
All right, so my World Series pick is I'm going to have – I won't pick the Cubs. They're already 0-1, so they might just stink.
They've got a hole to climb out of. I'm going to say I'm going to take the Oriolesioles over the dodgers okay you took half mine i've been on the orioles for the last three years and i'm just gonna stay on the orioles you took half mine they've got good vibes for the orioles this year oh yeah new owner by the way and the old owner died that's true um did you know that their new owner owns the magna carta i was watching the game today and they had they had the owner up in the box they were interviewing him during the game this dude bought the magna carta can you explain to hank what the magna carta is for everyone yeah sure hank doesn't understand so the magna carta is a document that was signed in england that limits the power of the king so it was like that's yeah we still have a king but he's not controlling everybody anymore that was the declaration of independence that so the owner said the declaration of the constitution was based off the magna carta so this is like the og declaration of independence i'd rather have the declaration of independence nicholas cage style yeah this dude this dude is actually national treasure yeah but yeah you own that does he i don't know it's likevel.
He's a very, yeah, very rich person who owns everything else. And he's like, you know what I need? The Magna Carta.
That feels like something that should be in a museum. Now you sound like Indiana Jones, but yeah.
Yeah. It's a Jay-Z song too.
I don't know who was first. Jay-Z might be on the hot seat.
Next up, Holy Grail. Get both of them? No, that's the name of the song.
What? Magna Carta, magna carta holy grail no way yeah that's crazy that i just accidentally said that and didn't actually know it oh damn you don't make him feel dumb it's wild sorry hank but yeah this motherfucker bought the magna carta anyways my pick is uh the orioles and then i'm gonna get i already took them i want i wanted the orioles i already took them you you told hank to go first and then you went out of nowhere. You can't take them.
That's the pattern of the show is Hank gives his pick, and then I give mine, and then you

do yours.

Sorry, so pick someone else besides the Orioles.

I have the Baltimore Orioles.

Nope.

And then I have-

That's my pick.

Then I have the Atlanta Braves.

You got to pick someone else besides the Orioles.

You can do Rangers again.

No.

You had the Rangers last year.

No.

I've had the Orioles for three straight years.

I have the Orioles. No, that doesn't count.
Why not? Find someone else in the AL. Can I get a backup on this? We usually gotta have as many as possible.
You jumped the gun. It is true.
But Hank hasn't given his pick yet. I did.
I gave four. No, you had to give an actual pick.
You just said a bet you made. Alright, pods.
Over should you just said you had a perfect spot there god damn it do it again hank pods over red socks no you idiot max what's your pick phillies over orioles okay all right fine max has the orioles jake what's your pick yankees over braves okay okay i'll go uh rangers over dodgers all right all right i got the uh i got the orioles over no you can't max has the orioles now i got the orioles come on respect it we all have got different teams now i gave up the or Orioles. Okay.
All right. I'm going to go with the

Yankees

losing. Nope.

Jake has the Yankees. No, he can do that.

Oh, yeah. Losing, losing, losing.
Okay. I have the

Orioles losing to the Braves.

Got it. No, he has the Orioles losing.

He has Phillies over Orioles.

Yeah. You have Orioles winning,

I guess. Even though you can't have them losing either.

Yeah, you can't have them losing. You can't have the Orioles.
Okay. I have a strike.
I think there's going to be a strike and nobody's going to win. How about that? No World Series vacated.
I want the Orioles to win now so bad so that Max can get credit for it, even though he has them losing in the World Series. All credit to Max.
That would actually rock if the Orioles won the World Series. Over the Phillies? And Max had them losing the World Series.
Yeah. Oh, goddammit.
I might do an exact future. Orioles over Phillies.
Imagine that. This would be a great clip.
All right, what else? Anything else going on in the sports world before we watch Hank try to drink out of this? Yeah, in Major League Baseball, Big Cat and I have decided to fade the athletics every single game. Yep.
So putting a unit on the athletics every time they play 162 times a year we're betting against them wake up bet against the athletics sleep profit repeat that's the strategy minus one and a half minus one and a half every single game they might be favored they were favored for three games last year they went one and two in those games which is it's so sad to say that out loud plus 120 tomorrow plus 120 right now so it so it hit in day one so we're up on the year um we hate john fisher fuck the guy's a piece of shit and he's ruined the team he's made them unwatchable as a big fuck you to the oakland fans he's trying to move the team to las vegas vegas doesn't even really want them that. So he's a real piece of shit.
He's my new Dan Snyder. I want that guy gone.
And if you happen to be a listener in Las Vegas, there is an act right now. It's a bill that I think they're putting forward called the Schools Over Stadiums Alliance, which is basically the billionaires should pay for their own fucking stadium act.
I like this. To try to not give him the $380 million.
I don't know anything about Las Vegas politics or what else is in the bill, but I will endorse voting against giving John Fisher the $380 million act. I mean, getting $380 in Vegas can't be hard.
You don't think so? No. I think...
Bruno Mars is probably tough, right? Oh, no, he got 50, right? All he needs to do is go to the tunnel of chaos. Yeah.
Dana White's got him hooked up in no time. Oh, did you see Sage Steele call him Joe Rogan? Yeah.
So for every interview that we have from now on, we should just open it up with, what's Joe Rogan's dream? Yeah, what's Joe Rogan's dream? My skin crawled. Because we've made mistakes as interviewers, but I don't think we've ever done that.
I don't think we've ever accidentally interviewed the wrong person, have we? No. Oh, that one time the guy called up pretend to be Mike Leach.
Yep. And also Dr.
James Andrews. We got completely bamboozled.
I thought it was the surgeon. I didn't know it was a professor.
Have we ever done that? I did remember. I asked Rich Eisen.
It was like a college basketball player or something. Randy Moss? I think Boomer and Gio.
Yeah, they did that, but they kind of. They booked the wrong Randy Moss.
Yeah, I feel like they did that as a bit. I mean, what about what Rich Eisen did this week? Oh, Rich Eisen.
That was fucked up. He went after DJ Burns.
What did he say? He's like, when did you put on all the weight? Oh, my God. And he was like, excuse me, sir? Because he's so polite.
Like, do you think that we didn't want to ask DJ Burns that? But I would never ask Guy that because I love DJ Burns. DJ Burns is awesome.
The vending machine. Yeah, I want him to win.
By the way, we signed an NIL deal with DJ Burns. Yeah, sure.
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In the store now. And Jack Golke, who's here, he watched the games with us on Thursday night.
We're going to do a PMT challenge video, which we got to figure out what we're going to do. I think I've got an idea for it.
Okay. Want to throw it out there? Well, Hank told me no.
Oh. Why'd Hank tell me no? No, throw it out there.
Okay. Probably because you tried to steal the Orioles.
We're going to play golf with them. Oh.
No. What's the idea? So the idea...
Well, Hank doesn't want me to say it. No, I want you to say it.
Well, we're going to make the video anyway, so we might as well get everyone excited about the video.

Yeah.

I think having me, you, and Hank shooting threes on one basket all at the same time while he shoots one person on the other basket.

Maybe we could get everybody else involved too, all of us, against Golki.

We're going to have a hard time tracking the balls.

But I'm down.

Have one guy under the hoop.

Yeah.

I think maybe an easier way to do that would be, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah.

I think maybe we do that, but maybe it's like he goes first and he gets a minute,

see how many he makes, then we go, so it's a little more, it's less chaotic

and we can have people rebounding for us.

Also so that we can watch Golki just get wet from the ground. Right.
I want to see him shoot. I want to see how wet the man can be.
He also says that we need to have, he needs to have a closeout, so we should also just do a video of us closing out on him. Yeah.
Seeing how many he can hit in our eyes. And his face.
Yeah. All right, either way, we're going to make a great video.
All right, Hank, you want to try it? Yeah. All right, here we go.
Hank, Hank, Hank hank hank hank hank hank also sorry to michigan state fans we didn't realize that you all are trying to get tom iso to wear a suit again uh if we had known we would ask them but i talked to someone in michigan state afterwards and tom iso said why would i wear a suit i can dress comfortably all right oh hank oh oh that's cold nice word what was that an eighth of eighth of a beer? Well, it doesn't take a full beer. If you hold it sideways.
Wait, Max has you. He's got you covered.
Let a real man do this. Let a real man come in.
No, he's going to hold it for you. Oh, he almost ate shit.
Come on, Max. You hold it up.
We'll pour it. And he's going to pour it.
Oh, there we go. Wait, let's not stand in front of the camera.
Don't stand in front of the camera. Max.
Oh, it's so cold. Yeah, I told you it was cold.
Come on, Hank. No, the ice is cold.
Yeah. Oh, no.
Your hands. Oh, my God, Hank.
This is now. Sounds like a five-year-old.
You're making a mess of this, Hank. Oh, Jesus, Hank.
The ice is so cold. Oh, the ice is cold.
Max, the ice is cold on my little whips. My whips are freezing.
He's sucking it down. Way to go, Hank.
Good job. All right.
That was not my best effort. Let's kick it to ourselves with Tom Izzo.
Awesome, awesome interview with Tom Izzo. And we will do a full baseball preview.
Maybe we'll have our friend Jared Karabas or someone else come on, talk to us about baseball. We have to get Jeff Passan on.
Yeah, open invite. I like listening to him.
Or Kirkton. I just love hearing Kirkton's voice.
Jeff Passan, come on, pardon my take. We'd love to have you on.
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He is Hall of Fame basketball coach, Michigan State. It is Tom Izzo.
Coach, thank you so much for joining us. We got a million questions.
You have been someone on our list that we've wanted to have on the show for a very long time. I guess I'll start here because it is tournament time.
You guys obviously, you know, bounced last weekend, but you have tons of success in the tournament. So I wanted to start with what is it about the tournament that is so different than the regular season from a coaching perspective that has given you all the success you've had in your career you know guys that's that's a million dollar question I don't know why I've had success I've had success because of good players I've had success because when we started this whole thing out many many years ago with Mateen Cleaves and Morris Peterson's and Jason Rich you know that that five-year stretch, you know, you were like you guys when you started your show.
You know, everybody's all in. You're this and that.
And I've been lucky here. I got alums like Magic Johnson and Greg Kelser.
I got guys like the Vincent Brothers. I got guys like Steve Smith, who, Sean Respert.
Those guys kind of caught fire with our group right away. And we started having reunions every year.
And those reunions brought excitement. And what they did is, you know, Magic was about winning championships.
Cleves was about winning championships. You know, Draymond, you know, winning championships.
And it just kind of grew. And so now when March comes, mean most people think i do nothing until march and then i coach a little bit in march this year i did a lot before march and i did nothing in march but i i think that what you do is you realize it's one and done and when those players call back to our current players and say know what month it is, it's March, you know, and it matters.
And there's no my bads anymore and there's no mistakes. So I get a help from a lot of my great alums.
And I probably get too much credit for what I do. They deserve the credit for what they do and what they did when they were here.
Yeah, it's January, February, Izzo. You've heard that nickname before.
Don't you wish it was January, February, March, Izzo? Yeah. You know what? I like that better.
Yeah. I think I'm going to try to reinvent that, but I better get off my dead butt and get it done because I would rather be playing in April.
But, you know, we've had some good runs. had some you know highs and lows but uh through it all i think around here it's important to everybody yeah our plans and our alums great that's normal that's everywhere but our former players i think separates us makes it special the way they call back i mean ervin calledvin called when we were playing against North Carolina.
You know, I got the pool ready for you guys to come out here. We're all set, you know, win this game.
And I relay those things. Or sometimes they'll FaceTime.
We'll do it in a meeting room. It's pretty cool.
And it's one of the things that staying at the same place for a long time and having some of those great players. But the players do deserve the credit, guys.
I don't say that humbly. I say that honestly.
Okay, so you are being humble, and I appreciate your humbleness. But in terms of the tournament and the coaching X's and O's, there are definitely coaches that are able to get the most out of their team come this time of year and some that fall short.
You've always been a most out of your team guy. The quick turnaround, that's always what I'm curious about.
When you have to play a Thursday, then a Saturday, and you're scouting a team that you've never seen before and they play in a different conference, what is it that you do that's so different that has been able to put your team in these situations where they've had success? Because that, I think, is a very difficult, unique aspect of March Madness, having to scout a team in 24 hours and be like, all right, we've got to roll out and play. I will say that that's pretty good of you guys.
That is one thing we have done pretty well here. And the reason we've done it pretty well is my first year in the tournament.
We played Eastern Michigan in my first tournament. I think Mateen Cleaves and Peterson, those guys that won it were sophomores.
I had a good staff, Tom Crane, Brian Gregory, Stan Heath. Stan's been in the pros.
You know, those other two guys have coached at major colleges. And we sat down and said, oh, my God, if we beat Eastern, you know, it was just let's win a game.
That's all we want to do is win a game. Then I learned the Mike Krzyzewski rule, you got to win the weekend.
Yeah. And once you got to win the weekend, because the game isn't good enough anymore.
Nobody cares if you win one game. Then you got to start preparing ahead of time for the weekend.
And what we did that weekend is we went from playing Eastern Michigan to Princeton. And Princeton was really good.
They ran all that backdoor stuff. stuff and it was a hard prep and i we said how are we going to get this through to our guys so we took these 20 minute segments and so we got home that night at one o'clock in the morning i said we're going to watch 20 minutes of film so that they go to bed dreaming about princeton we got up in the morning we had breakfast we had like 15 minutes

before breakfast breakfast 15 minutes after and we'd have a walk through we'd have 15 minutes of walk through then we'd have lunch then another you know so i tried to divide it up knowing that the tension span especially in this pressure packed time and i think of all the things we done, the Princeton game helped kind of my philosophy, our philosophy. And so now we stole something from Mike and Duke.
Any weekend we go, we try to win the weekend, which means I got a couple of assistants working on the other two teams that we could play and we might not even get there. The the thing is yeah and this uh this uh 15 20 minute segments i think has really helped us so yeah you mentioned coach k i know that you guys are pretty close do you guys you share everything with each other are there things where you want to keep some things to yourself and not not let the other guy know man you know mike you didn't share anything with me i stole what what I got.
I heard him say it one time and stole it, but he's done such a great job. And I look at guys like Nick Saban, you know, who I started with here.
And I pick coaches in different professions that I do admire, that I do respect because what we're all trying to be is consistent. Unfortunately, during the regular season this year, guys, we were consistently inconsistent.
But when you look for it over my career, I think we've been pretty consistent. Yeah.
I just thought when I heard that from Mike, you know, we got to win the weekend. So it made sense.
Yeah. Once we got through that first weekend, that year, when North Carolina beat us in the Sweet 16, you know, after that, it went to a Final Four, then we won the National Championship.
Then nobody cared if you won a game in the tournament. All anybody cared is did you advance.
So that's to win the weekend and prepare for the weekend. And some people would say, well, you're preparing for a team that you might play two games from now you're not putting enough into the game you're playing well we did but we also prepared for that next and i think that's all you win the weekend who would you say would be the toughest types of teams to prepare for well like a princeton was very difficult to prepare for like if i was playing in this tournament now purdue would be a different harder team to play for.
They got a monster in there. He's not even human.
I mean, he's a guy, Zach, he's an incredible size, but he's a very good athlete in that. And Matt Painter does such a good job of getting him the ball 9,000 different ways that it's a tough prep.
A tough prep would be a team like Kentucky in the past when Patino was there and they're pressing the whole game. You know, now you don't run into many presses.
And all of a sudden it happened to us. Florida with Billy Donovan, we didn't run into already any teams that pressed.
We played Wisconsin to like a 52-48 game, you know, because back then, Dick Bennett, it was slow down, and we had to play that style. Yeah.
And then everybody said, well, two days later, you're going to play Florida. And I said, great, we want to go up and down.
They pressed the whole game. We attacked it.
You know, we beat them 89-70 or something, you know. So I think that was another key thing with our teams.
We could be versatile. We could play Smash Mouth.
We could play Race Horse. And I think the best teams I had could do both, and you need that when you get into tournament play and you don't know who you're going to be playing.
Yeah, so I went to Wisconsin. I'm a Badger, so I've not liked Michigan State for a very long time.
Question for you. Who do you think the player that you coached was most hated by other teams? Because I have an answer.
I have a guy that I hated so much that every time I saw him on TV, my blood would boil. Who do you think that was for, like, who do you think most – like, when you came out into an opposing stadium, you're like man they really hate this guy yeah well they didn't

treat uh cleaves very good in madison but i don't think they treated draymont very good but uh that's because you know those were the better players i i you know i had a lot of players that got booed at a lot of places so give me the answer okay my answer is one one so easy i hated hated hated Paul Davis

I hated that guy

god damn it did I hate that guy

you know Paul was a funny guy because he wasn't, you know, the elitist of elite players like some of those other guys. But he had that knack around him kind of like not as good, but kind of like the kid everybody hates from Duke.
Yeah, Filipowski, yeah, yeah. Where it's just like something.
Oh, back then. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Leitner and JJ. Leitner, yes.
Leitner, very good. Well, you guys are on top of your stuff.
Yeah, I hated Paul Davis, and you're right. It was more about the fact that he just always had a knack for the big rebound or the big play, and it's like, God damn it, do I hate this guy.
But it makes sports fun that's what i love about it you get these rivalries but we did have some great rivalries yeah there and and bo did a great job too and it was kind of really fun to both be in because you know you hate your rivalries you hate them and then what hate turns into when it goes long enough is total respect yeah yeah you You know what I mean? It goes to total respect because, I mean, Bo was here his first trip here. I think he broke our 54-game home winning streak.
So all of our people hated Wisconsin. And then we both got so good.
And then in 15, we were both in the Final Four. And we found out when we got to Indianapolis, we were both pulling for each other you know and and now i'm i'm friends with beau i called him when i went out to california you know because you respect people that challenge you every day if you're really good you that that's what you need and and they do it the right way in wisconsin great guard is a good friend.
They've always done it the right way.

Yeah. You don't hate nobody.

So you wouldn't hate somebody if they weren't a challenge for you.

Right.

So it's like a sign of respect.

And I think a little bit of hate is actually good in sports.

Coach, I got a tough question to ask you because you've been known as being a fiery guy.

You've been called the fifth angriest coach in college basketball.

They did a poll, but you're also known as a teddy bear. I read an article about you recently that said that you were actually a teddy bear so are you a nice guy are you a teddy bear are you angry you know yeah I'm an Italian guy that I wear my emotions on my sleeve and if you look at some of the antics on TV it's's just emotion, you know, and I don't always do it on purpose, but I can see where someone would think I was angry.
If you talk to most of my guys, the time I spend with them, how much I care about them, I think I'd be a double teddy bear, you know. but what I think the big key is nowadays that we're really all having trouble with

is how do you be demanding and tough enough to hold people accountable and yet caring and understanding enough to let them know that you care? Because nobody cares how much you know to you. They know how much you care kind of theory, you know.
And I think the only way you do that is spend time. So part of me doesn't care what most people outside think.
What I care about is reunions that we have does everybody come back does everybody call in in march does all those things happen if those things are happening um i think i've done it right but uh i can see where people and people take things wrong you know i mean the guy makes the same mistake seven times what am i gonna say hey johnny would would you please do it right this time? You wouldn't do that with your own kids. Sometimes I get accused of that, but I know this.
I love my guys. I spend a lot of time with them.
They've done a lot for me, and I'm probably deservant of being angry sometimes. Yeah, I've always loved the specific part of your coaching career where if, you know, we live in a different day and age now, there'll be like a clip where Tom Izzo reams out a player, Tom Izzo grabs a player, and everyone will flip out and be like, you can't coach like this.
And then almost immediately, all of the guys that you coached will come to your defense. And it's like, this is who we should be listening to.
The guys that were with him and know his coaching style and know who he is as a person. And it's like, shut the hell up.
He's coaching a certain way. So that has to make you feel great, though, when all your guys always come to your defense almost immediately.
Draymond, if you grab a player, Draymond will be like, that's, that guy and coach have a relationship that

none of you can speak on. That has to

feel great. Even Charles Barkley

stuck up for me on one, you know, because

I think, you know, yeah, you can't

grab players anymore. You can't.

Why? You know, I can

hug them. I feel good about them.
Why

can't I grab them if I, if they

made the same mistake nine times? If you

think that any coach, Nick Saban, who was here with me, you think any coach that I guess, Pat Riley, that is more volatile, John Thompson, that they just do that on one or two or three mistakes. Some of it they do it because I know where that kid wants to go.
He wants to win a championship and get to the NBA. And you know what? I do the same thing in school.
If he wants his degree and he's doing things that make that hard, I'm going to get on him there too. And what I think that I hope I say this right, I'm not phony.
Yeah. What you see is what you get.
And they see it from the day they come here. So there's no surprises.
Yeah. And by the way, it has been dialed back a lot because our society is so damn soft that, like you say, they look at you getting mad at a guy guy you could even look at him wrong and somebody's saying something nowadays yeah it's so stupid it's ridiculous it's crazy because you are with those guys all the time and your relationship like if if someone random grabs them it's like yeah that's different but it's like the relationship is there it's it's built on something it's completely different than what we're watching in a two-second clip so i yeah i've always had your back in those situations always always stunned me now you you love coaching rebounding and your teams are always tough have you found that it's harder to instill tough hard nose like rebounding your war do you still do your war drill where you put them in pads football pads and helmets, and just let them go rebound? Isn't that a great question? Great question.
When my former guys come back, I mean, if you would have saw Mateen Cleaves trying to buckle chin straps on guys that are 6'9", that never even knew how to put on a football helmet, you would have laughed. But let me tell you that story.
We go to Ohio State. First time all year.
I think think we had 28 24 games in a row we had won the rebound battle we lose it a couple players go off on a couple other players in the locker room that's not what we do here and i said wow nothing better than a player coach team right guys so yep yep get back i call save and i said listen i need 12 sets of football gear practice tomorrow he goes huh i said can i get them yeah sure call my equipment guy. I said, listen, I need 12 sets of football gear to practice tomorrow.
He goes, huh? I said, can I get them? Yeah, sure. Call my equipment guy.
I get them. So last 20 minutes of practice, we're going to do our little wardrobe.
So I said, since we're getting soft and we don't want to get anybody hurt, we'll put on football pads. That way you can't get hurt.
So we did. And I was mad.
I wanted it to be a, they had so much fun that it became all we talked about. And then we talked about it for five years later and 10 years later.
And so now the guys will say, coach, bring out the football patch. You know, rebound is good.
Can't do that, man. I'd get sued nowadays.
I can't do that so it's uh it's a shame you know that because those guys had a riot doing it yeah and nobody got hurt of course because you're in full pads helmets it was uh it was one of the great things you get to do it was a memory making moment and i'm afraid that our society is getting so screwed up we don't have as many memory making moments yeah and there were some guys that copied me there were some guys that called me asking what I do but those same guys call me now when we're not rebounding as well they say do you do that I go no trying for other things I don't want to I don't want to get killed you know the sad part is back then you know of course we videotaped every practice hell I had to get rid of that video i said somebody will somebody will sue me later on so and now when we have reunions all the players want to see that that's all they want to talk about yeah i'd love to see that film yeah it sounds like a great time i kind of want to do it we should actually do that in the office yeah we should basketball court yeah we should do the rebounding good helmets and shoulder pads yeah so so what explain the drill to us so that we can recreate it here yeah there's there's five guys that are right under the basket and five guys around the three-point line and a coach will throw it up and the two shall meet you know and they hit find the ball and go rebound it you know i love it guys if there's one thing that has been the hardest part of coaching now and, and I think you're seeing this, I give Kelvin Sampson, who, by the way, he sat here.

I took his spot.

He was a GA for Judd Heathcote.

And Kelvin, his teams might be the toughest teams in college basketball right now.

I don't know.

He's at Houston, so maybe he's just coming on the scene.

I don't know what he does every day but it's hard to make teams tougher because our society is so soft you know and you say well that's barbaric or that they used to say we were a football team on hardwood I always took that as a compliment yeah that was a great compliment but the game is getting more physical again because I think they're letting it go more but players aren't necessarily more physical except houston yeah they're the most physical team i think in uh in the tournament yeah yeah you you mentioned uh coach saban and now you guys spent time there together did you did you know when nick saban got there like this guy this guy is going to be great you know when nick came here as an assistant i came here as i said it was in 87 and um and belichick came here a couple times to work the camp and it was just and nick's house was not far from mine and uh you know listening to belichick you know the one time i went over there and i knew nick was gonna be something good and then he left to

go to the houston oilers then he went to toledo and then he went back with belichick at cleveland

and then i got the job here and then six months later nick got the head job here so we reunited and we were here five years together and uh did i ever think he'd be what he is no no is it incredible that what he's done it is incredible um you can talk about having good players a lot of people have good players and don't get it done he is to me um one of the greatest coaches in any sport and I mean that with respect admiration and knowledge yeah you know I know what I'm talking about. And he was, I mean, you're talking about demanding.
He probably did the opposite as I did. I put football pads on my guys to play.
He probably put his guys in jocks and t-shirts and said, now go tackle each other. He probably went the opposite.
Yes. Yes.
Yeah. Let's get you toughened up by just hitting each other with your pads on.
Yeah, yeah. I got a weird question, Coach.
Is there a date or maybe even a year that you can remember your voice, the last time you had your voice fully and it wasn't hoarse? You know, that's another thing that we should talk about. You know, everybody thinks it's yelling at players, right? That's what everybody says, you're yelling at players.
The truth thinks it's yelling at players right that's

what everybody says you're yelling at players the truth is it's yelling at my wife no that's but the real truth is usually when it gets in the season especially the tournament i don't sleep at all you know you don't sleep much why would you sleep that's for death you get you got a tournament to win yeah and when And when I don't sleep, my voice goes. I swear to God, it's not Yonah players.
I get blamed for so many things that aren't true. Now, some of them are true.
But it's not that at all. It's when I lose sleep or I don't sleep well.
Like even now, you don't sleep well. Now, how could you sleep well? You don't know who you got, who's in the portal,

and who you're paying, and who's going on.

But right now, it'll start coming back a little bit.

I think I got a perpetual horse voice.

How's that?

Yeah, you're a horse voice Hall of Famer.

Like it's just always there.

A few coaches up on that pedestal.

You, Doc Rivers.

I would actually say Kelvin Sampson.

He's on that list, too. Doc Rivers rivers i work with doc in the goodwill games i love doc he's he's great too so yeah yeah the horse voice hall of fame so uh so coach what is it what is it about italians that you think makes great basketball coaches because there's there's a lot of them like the big east has been filled with italians for as as I can remember.
But even still to this day, we've got a lot of good Italian coaches. What is it about being Italian that makes you a good basketball, or helps you if you have the background knowledge to be a great basketball coach? You know, the funny part of that is, as you know, most Italians are not gifted with height.
So what the hell? We should be better football coach. You know, Calipari, Pat patino you know uh raleigh massimino you know we're all regular normal guys like i think you guys but uh i don't know what it is you know i i do think one thing that has helped me and my father did it but my grandfather did it you know when you were an immigrant like they were coming in i mean you're in a working man's world.
You know, you just worked your way. You didn't know anything else.
My family were working in the mines or working here and there. And so I think work ethic helps you become successful in whatever you decide to do.
And I think the Italian guys I know, their fathers or grandfathers were all in that. That doesn't mean other nationalities aren't either.
You just asked me a question. That's the only dumb answer.
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Now back to Coach Izzo. I got a question about one of your former players, Draymond Green, who has gone on to win four titles, been an incredible piece to what the Warriors have done their dynasty.
How often do you talk to him and are you ever like, hey, Draymond, maybe don't be as crazy? Because you obviously were able to keep him less crazy. I've always been of the approach that Draymond, you need one of those guys on your team that plays on the edge and that every now and then going over the edge is actually not a bad thing because it gives your team that little bit of shit to them that you need to win games but are you ever do you ever have a conversation with them you're like hey listen you're you're an unbelievable player but yeah maybe don't go after everyone all the time yeah a lot of time and i talked to steve kerr and i talked to bob meyer the gm and

you know people like myself in a way i mean anybody that is more passionate

sometimes we do go over the edge a little bit you know it's uh but if you ask them would they

want to trade him i don't think they'd ever want to trade him right he he is one of the all-time

Thank you. But if you ask them would they want to trade him, I don't think they'd ever want to trade him.

Right.

He is one of the all-time.

I mean, I am the luckiest human being on the planet.

I coached Mateen Cleaves, and I coached Draymond Green.

And I did not coach, but he's from here,

and he's still around a lot in Magic Johnson.

And there's a lot of great players, but I'm not sure there's as many great winners who can take average teams or good teams and be the difference in winning you know a lot of people make great plays how many people make winning plays like Raymont's toss back to Steph and that illegal screen he kind of sometimes sets and moves a little bit. Those are winning plays and he didn't even take the shot.
Right. And I think that's what's not appreciated.
The toughness, the rebounding, that he can guard a LeBron and he can guard a seven footer. You know, Draymond is, do I wish once in a while? Yeah, he probably wishes once in a while I wouldn't be like I am, you know.
But would I trade him for the world? No. And by the way, I didn't keep him under wraps.
I just, that was back in the day when huddles weren't filmed. Yeah.
Because he still was crazy in those huddles. It's just that nobody got to see him back then, you know.
Yeah. But I absolutely love him.
He's a versatile's a versatile player he is you know those guys that say they don't care the only thing he cared about was rebounding and when he had nine because he always wanted a double double he knew he had nine and he'd come to the bench and in the huddle he'd say not one of you guys grabbed the next rebound i'm getting it Just cut your guy out i'm getting it we're on a free throw situation i'm getting it yeah and and i would sit there and say is that selfish hell no i loved it i thought that was absolutely awesome and and that's draymont you know he's he put winning he puts winning above scoring even rebounding assists more than I think any player I've ever coached. You know, it was guys like him or Cleves.
They'd come into the locker room, never look at the stat sheet. They just look at the W or the L.
And people can say that, but not a lot of people that do it. Yeah, Trayvon cares, which is nice.
Like, you do want a person that cares that deeply about winning on your team i think it was john thompson big john thompson said at one point like one guy like that on your team you can win a championship two guys like that you might get fired yeah you know and i mean i'm not saying there's times i don't call him and say dray what are we doing you know and and once in a while he'll even agree with me. Not very often, but once in a while, but, but you know, I, I really, I don't think as good as Steph and Clay and all the other guys, I don't think they would have won the championships without him.
No, definitely not. Does all the little dirty work that makes a difference in the end.
And for that, I know one thing. If he had eligibility left, I'd take him back.
I'd deal with, you know, there's always going to be an issue or two. And do I wish last night he wouldn't have got thrown out of the game? Yeah, I wish he wouldn't have got thrown out of the game.
But I don't know everything that happened in the game either. There were some things back in the day that happened withbron and that i'm not sure were all draymond's fault either you know but you get an image it's like being the angriest guy or whatever you call right you get an image and then it precedes you and that's not always right either i also think draymond like some nights he's just like i want to hit the showers early that felt like one of those nights he's like i'm good you know? I haven't done any of this with you guys yet.
I disagree with you. I do not know many nights that he doesn't want to play all 48 minutes.
I don't know. Last night was like four minutes.
He was like, I'm done. I would agree with you most of the time, but last night I was like, he really just wants to go home.
My theory is that he wants sometimes he wants things to talk about on his podcast, he'll do stuff on the game and then he'll be like people are going to definitely listen to my podcast tomorrow if i'm talking about getting kicked out yeah it definitely smart guy's business right i hope not but you might be right so so and yeah i am a big draymond fan i think his basketball iq is so off the charts that people like they don't realize what he's able to do without actually like the, where the spacing and defensively being like a coach who else though, have you coached that you would say is underrated that people don't fully realize how talented he was, whether it be actual stats or on the floor being a general for you. Well, Claves was the best I had.
I mean, because he, he you know irvin magic said this great players play great but elite players make other players play great and that is the true mark of an elite player to me who can make other people around them better than they actually are cleves was phenomenal at that he was very good at that i mean dr out when he was here did some of that i had a kid named valentine who was pretty good at that believe it or not in a whole different way a whole different guy cassius winston i mean he wouldn't even take a shot for a half he'd just be making everybody else better and then i say okay can can we win the game now you know can you make some shots yeah did at a very high level and yet wasn't the gifted athlete he wasn't 6'5 you know maybe underappreciated and and then you know even a guy like jason richardson believe it or not who had this gifted athleticism that he was a very humble and and very uh caring guy that i mean he didn't start his freshman year and that's like un-american not to start a guy that was that good but uh it was because of the team we had and uh zach rando went through the same thing and you know everybody said this and that about zach i absolutely loved having Zach I mean he was he was really good and a really good teammate and you know that's maybe guys what

we don't judge people on enough how hard they play what they do to make others better and what kind of teammate are they I would promise you and I don't know I don't I'm not with the, but I'm betting that Draymond's an incredible teammate. You know who's an incredible teammate that's making a name for himself? Jaron Jackson.
Just an incredible teammate, a good guy, and a very good player. Yeah.
Coach, your relationship with the media has been kind of interesting over the years. On this show, I think it was back in 2016, we said at some point the media is going to turn a little bit on Tom Izzo.
And, you know, the media, it's like a big cycle. It's like a pendulum that swings back and forth.
At some point, you're like, okay, this coach is underrated. And then once you start winning enough, if you haven't won enough recently, they say Tom Izzo is overrated.
Now you might be back to being underrated again. So can you judge yourself? Are you overrated or underrated as a head coach? Well, I think you're always overrated because whether we like it or not, and again, you can tell humility, it's not humility.
Players play the game. You know, players play the game and you got to have good players and you got to have a good culture and so if I was overrated and if I was underrated something maybe people don't look at the culture you develop and that takes years and the culture is what is good but like I haven't been happy I wasn't happy with our performance I said right out we're we underachieved this year.
And I said, why, you know,

and I can, I can name you seven games that we either led or were right down to the wire on and we lost. And usually you win some of those this year.
We didn't, we lost them. If you win, if you win half of them, you, you win 24 games and you're a four seed and everybody's happy, you know, but really your team's no better because you only won by a couple of points and uh so you know I I think I have a good relationship with the media guys most of the time and I'll tell you why it was my old boss Judd Heathcote and uh I would coach Magic and and I was a GA on his staff and it's my second year here they were talking about firing Judd and uh so i'm i'm reading these articles that's when i read the paper i don't do that anymore but i'm reading

these articles they're talking about firing them and once a week we had open for the media and so

the media came watch practice and after practice judge telling his dirty jokes to him you know like

he always did he's got his arm around two guys and he's walking across.

And I'm ticked off.

I said, Coach, that guy just ripped you today once you fired.

And I said, what are you doing?

You know, and my dumb ass from the UP, I didn't know, you know, what was going on.

And he said, I'm going to tell you something.

If you want to survive in this profession, everybody's got mouths to feed and everybody's got a boss to please. He said,

those guys do too. Some of them are good guys that just have to do what they have to do because that's the way it is.
And so I've always appreciated that. If I don't like something somebody says most of the time i'll call them and say hey you're off based on this here's why they might tell me why they think what's getting harder guys is with twitter i mean let's face it everybody's attacking you or anybody in the media yeah they're attacking them on what they should think and say And then those guys give into it and then they go to us.
You know, I have practice open once a week, too. I kept a tradition because I thought that way the media could see, you know, I don't hide nothing.
I've never closed my locker room ever, ever, never. So I think they appreciate that.
But I appreciate them. I just wish that somehow they could understand what's going on each and every day now because the world has changed a little bit in the last three years.
Yeah, it's your perspective. And you're talking a little bit about the NIL era and the portal era of college basketball.
Are you going to be in the portal this offseason? I might, I might, you know, my wife tried to go in it. She realized the buyout would have been too high.
So she didn't jump it, but you know, I mean, it is what it is. I mean, you know what I've had feelings about it that I, I don't, I don't like it.
I've said it, especially uh especially the the portal and um and the reasons why and yet uh you know what when in rome do like the romans you know we we don't have a choice we we play with the cards we're dealt and i've said this on many of shows and i've said it many times and i won't say a lot about it because it always gets me in trouble but i will say this at the end of the day the majority of kids players i think are going to lose out now there'll be a few that it works out for but the majority i mean we're going to have over 2,000 in the in the portal yeah and guys are now good at two and three and even four times. Where are they going to have to go back to later on? You love Wisconsin.
Would you love Wisconsin if you went to Wisconsin, Illinois, Michigan State, and Northwestern for your career? Would you love Wisconsin? I don't know. That's yet to be seen.
But I honestly believe that I think a lot of players are going to make bad decisions and not learn how to fight through sometimes. I mean, if I told you how many guys would have left here after one year in my career, I'd have to count them on 27 hands.
Right. And it's just part of the deal.

And all those same guys are my biggest advocates, you know,

and had the most fun.

So there's always a time to transfer, guys.

Every place isn't for everybody.

But the way we've made it so easy,

I think is going to be detrimental to the player more than it is the coach.

And coaches are going to lose their jobs.

But that's okay because, as some people say, we make a lot of money.

And we do. But we have a lot of responsibility and work a lot of hours too.
Yeah, I'm hoping, as a diehard fan of college sports, that it's kind of a pendulum swing that, you know, for the longest time the transfer rules were, like, bad. They were bad where kids had to sit out a year and, like, they were too restrictive.
then the pendulum is swung where it's too you know there's a little too much freedom you have to sit out a year yeah um but remember now one percent are going to the nba or nfl

right did you hear me one percent that means 99 of the kids need their degrees

so it is a shame that we're punishing a guy by making him go to school a year and sit out and

Thank you. That means 99% of the kids need their degrees.
So it is a shame that we're punishing a guy by making him go to school a year and sit out and maybe get stronger, maybe get better, maybe get smarter, maybe get ahead academically. And maybe when he's done with four years, he actually graduates because 90 in basketball, I think it's 96% are never going to play again.
You know, there's 4% in basketball that can play in Europe and G League and Canada and football. I guess now there's a new league, so maybe they'll get up 2% of play.
But most of those kids are never going to play again. Are we really punishing them by telling them they've got to sit out and get better and get smarter and get their academics on track? I know some guys that sat out for me.
I had a kid, Morris Peterson, that would never been a pro. Yeah.
It wasn't for the fifth year. So I understand, you know, the modern day, I agree with you, but there's unintended consequences to a lot of these things.
And I'm going to do what they said. I'm done bitching about it.
I'm just going to do my job, but I'm just telling you the majority of kids aren't going to have a place to go to. They transferred three and four times.
And we agree because I actually think the pendulum swung too far where it's now too easy and guys are the first moment of hardship. They're like, I'm out.
I'm hoping that we'll find a balance somewhere in the next few years where we'll kind of level back to a spot where people can have the freedom of movement, but there's also a lot more guys staying, sticking it out. And it's better for the school.
It's better for the fans. It's better for the player.
I do think that there is that middle ground that we hopefully will find. Yeah, I think if a coach leaves, that a player should be able to.
I mean, you know, you'd like to say they go for this school, but, you know, I understand that part. And yet, don't think like some people that coaches can just leave when they want either.
I mean, I've had my times when I was offered jobs that I would have cost me seven, eight million dollars to buy out, you know. So, I mean, it's kind of, I don't know.
And, you know, I struggle with that, too i struggle with that too when people say well coach can be well like i put in 40 years here right should you be able to do something different than somebody that just started it yesterday i mean to me you should but yeah but i ain't arguing it no more guys i lost that battle that train has left yeah you're adapting my job yeah you're adapting all right so coach this has been awesome i have one last question. It's a Roback question.
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Talking about this tournament, I know we're going to run this tomorrow so four of the Sweet 16 games will already have been played, but from your perspective you've played a lot of these teams. You've obviously played Purdue a bunch you uh I think you played Alabama last year you played Arizona this year Duke this year like who do you think is the is the is the team that you're looking at and you're like this team has everything and they're they're playing the ball that will get them to the final four and to cut the nets down well we just played North Carolina too and I was impressed with some of the pieces they have um and i don't want to be prejudiced to produce since they're in the league but when you got a center and that that smith kid has really played well and then they got shooters like lawyer and uh gillis has become a very good shooter i have not seen houston in person i know kelvin and i know i i've seen some of their personnel and anybody that's as tough as that i think has a chance we played arizona early we played duke early we played you know illinois is another team that has actually come Yeah.
But I think Purdue has the best chance because of what happened to them last year. They've got the best rallying point, and they've got a player of the year.
And to deal with him on a second day is hard. It'll be interesting to see how they do, whether they play tonight or tomorrow night, I guess it is.
They got Gonzaga tomorrow night, I think. But, you know, I think if I looked at four or five teams, Carolina's got to be one of them.
Arizona's got to be. Purdue's got to be.
It sounds like it's just the one seeds. Who would be? And UConn.
UConn's just been rolling. UConn right now, from what I've seen, is the best overall team.
And it'll be a hell of a battle if it's them and Purdue. And then you take a Houston, I mean, they can beat you different ways.
They can score a lot of points or they could beat you 39, 35. I swear they can.
I mean, they can tighten the screws down. And so those would be the top five or six teams.
That doesn't mean a team like Alabama who shoots 100 threes might be hot and win a game. That doesn't mean that Gonzaga and the job Mark Few has done couldn't work out.
You know, I don't know. There lot of there's a hey right now the one thing i do know about this tournament the last two three years flip a coin yeah something strange is going to happen yeah probably probably teams that you thought would get out of tonight aren't going to get out teams that tomorrow, aren't going to get out.
And yet some years it's chalk and everybody gets there. You know, I think when you were in a final four with three ones and a two, that's odd, you know, we've been a seven and been in the final four.
So I don't know, guys, I'm not the expert. I'm not gambling on it, but you guys can be.
And you, you guys have been great. I appreciate you having me on.
I i maybe uh who knows maybe we'll do it again as the tournament goes since since i have some unfortunate off time right now yeah and we have to have you next time you're in chicago we'd love to have you come by the office because we have a full court basketball court we'd actually would be great if you if you took us through the wardrobe that's what we should yeah yeah because you could do it with us we We'll sign a waiver. You'll sign a waiver? I can have the Bears send over some football pads and we'll get at it a little bit.
I know my son's a big fan of yours, so I'll make sure that I bring him with me and we'll do that. You guys have a great day, a good tournament.
And congratulations to your son for the three points. That was an all-time moment.
That was an all-time moment.

I mean, that was what I love about college basketball.

Like, you get guys who they do work, and they're with the team,

and they're putting in work.

They're not getting the time.

And, yeah, that was really cool.

We also, next year you'll be part of birthday week because you and I share a birthday, and PFT is the day after us.

So, yeah, we'll have you come out.

And, two, it would be an all-time visual because you can run the wardrobe. We're not soft, Coach.
We're tough. I love it.
I've been blogging for 15 years. I got calluses.
Yeah, the Badgers, man, after a middle of the year slump there, they really came on at the end. I thought they were going to make a run, and they run into the same team that we did the first year, JMU, who was good team shout out jmu good yeah pretty great team that's my that's my team coach i reflect i held myself back for making a jmu comment you're a jmu guy i'm a jmu guy yeah it was uh let me tell you my nephew was on the staff there that shows you how dumb i am i played him and got beat you know what thanksgiving meal's gonna be like i'm gonna throw knives at my son my nephew i love it i love it it was a great game for me yeah well they were good yeah they were really good yeah i mean everybody thought ours was a fluke until they won about 30 some games yeah now you lost your coach he went in the portal i know it's tough it's tough that's it that's life as a mid-majorjor, though.
You're a great stepping stone, but being a stepping stone kind of sucks sometimes. Yeah.
Yeah. Well, Coach.
Guys, you were great. Thank you so much.
Hopefully we see you in person next year when you're coming through Chicago. Appreciate the time, Coach.
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Okay.

Let's wrap up with some FireFest.

Hank, FireFest of the week.

I actually have a reverse FireFest.

There's no specific FireFest stick out.

An IceFest?

An IceFest.

There's a bit of that going around.

Just a great sign for the spring and summer. It happened twice this week where i've found sunglasses from

last summer in old pair of coats that's huge huge so one one wouldn't be notable but it happened

twice basically in the same week where i put on like a windbreaker reach in the pocket found a

pair of sunglasses i thought was gone forever that's great it is that time of year where you

can you go back to like the light windbreakers and you're in like a time portal you find like

a time capsule back to i guess early last fall you realize how young and dumb and stupid you were

Thank you. you go back to the light windbreakers and you're in a time portal.
You find a time capsule back to early last fall. You realize how young and dumb and stupid you were.
So yeah, reverse firefighter. There's nothing better than finding sunglasses.
Once a pair goes away, you're like, I'll never see these again. Yeah, and you don't know where they went, but you can't remember the last time you wore them.
My problem with sunglasses too is I try to have like two or three pair in rotation, but then you don't treat them like they're the most important thing. So then you get down to having none.
I had three. I knew I lost one.
I knew I left one in Nashville after a bachelor party. I knew those were gone forever.
That was a good bachelor party for you. Good bachelor party for me.
And then the other two, I just didn't know they were lost in the wind but i was like fuck i went from three to zero how did this happen yeah yeah back up to two i i conservatively estimate that i've lost like five thousand dollars worth of sunglasses they're gonna say five thousand pairs yeah i do well no i'm i'm counting in the ones that are free like the ones that are that like from shady rays and by the way shady rays does have a deal where if you lose them you can get a new pair, which is awesome. But yeah, I've probably in the ones that are free, like the ones that are from Shady Rays.
And by the way, Shady Rays does have a deal where if you lose them, you can get a new pair, which is awesome. Shady Rays is the best.
Yeah, I've probably lost 5,000 pairs, but $5,000 total worth of sunglasses. Yeah.
Just in the last seven years. Yeah.
I mean, I don't know how you do it because I use sunglasses basically just exclusively in my car. Yeah.
And having to have them on deck all the time, that's fucking i find them in very strange places but it has been nice the last couple years not having to like if i go somewhere for work not having a pair of sunglasses being like shit i have to stop by a store and buy sunglasses yeah yeah yeah uh okay pft your fire fest that's a good reverse fire fest reverse fire fest yeah um my fire fest is last night slash this morning i passed another kidney stone oh it's been a while for that uh i don't i think i've gotten rid of all my stones by now i have to i know that you had one big cat a few years ago yeah i had on uh vitamin c yeah yeah i had one about two weeks after big cat had one which makes me think that it was something that we were eating or drinking together um they gave it to us but i had like 13 kidney stones when they did the scan of my kidney and they were all really small so they didn't have to like go up there and shoot it with the lasers that they do sometimes so they're just like yeah just so you know you're gonna be pissing out kidney stones for the next i don't know six months a year but um i had another one was it was it painful or was it just the rock coming out of your penis and you're like what the fuck was that the rock coming out of my penis is not the painful part yeah the painful part is when it goes from your kidney to your bladder right and that's the really small tube my my urethra is a cavern compared to yeah that do you have a wide cut i do have a well i've got a not a great penis but i've got a huge urethra imagine if that was like hey hey babe like yeah it's not it's not long it's not big yeah but the fucking hole is wide i've got a massive hole if i i could take a uh close-up picture of my penis hole and people wouldn't know i'd be like fellas how many beers and dudes would get horny online not knowing what it was you have a vagina on the tip of your penis i'm a docking man's dream yeah uh so yeah that sucked but i i woke up this morning was sweating back hurt the whole thing uh but it's gone now so i'm happy that it's gone but i hope it's the last one but i yeah i think that's about a baker's dozen kidney stones pissed through my dick yeah my i mean mine was was a one-off hopefully knock on wood because it was when i was in in some bro science and i was like i think i was trying to fight off COVID with just vitamin C. And I took like a bunch of vitamin C tablets and the emergency.
And then I just started pissing like electric orange and then a rock came out and it hurts so bad. It hurts.
It hurts bad. Yeah.
But, but it's also, that's the most relieving part is when it comes out. Yeah.
But yeah, my, my dick's seen some shit. What can I say? My dick's basically been to war.
service yeah you're welcome you're welcome so that's my fire fest i feel like that's a a solid fire fest whenever i have one it's like okay i know what i'm gonna talk about on thursday yeah because jesus that is painful stuff uh all right my fire fest is uh not well it's not it is my fire fest but it's my kids are on spring break and every morning uh this week, I've had to explain to them that today is not donut day, because they don't have school, so they automatically assume it's donut day. It's like Pavlov's dog.
It really sucks having to break it to him. It even got worse this morning, because my daughter woke up, and she's like, is it donut day? And I was like, no, it's not.
She's like, is it Halloween? And I was like, nope. So they're just thinking every day that they're not in school, they're like, well, something special has to happen.
Is Santa here? Yeah. They're just like, and I'm like, no, I'm sorry to break it to you.
It's Thursday. Max, Jake, and I went to Dave and Buster's yesterday.
Oh, yeah. Just for fun.
And it was a scene. Yes.
It was like the most packed club I've ever been in. Yes.
Yeah. My wife took my son to the children children's museum she said it was the craziest scene ever because everyone's on spring break right now yeah children's the aquarium is probably popping off right now hopping off but yeah it's been tough having to break it to a four and a half year old and a two and a half year old being like today is not donut day is it's it's sad it breaks my heart every single time in a few years no halloween was brutal yeah i guess it takes a couple years but what six or seven that's when you start to appreciate weeks off from school right right because they're like they but yeah i still like school right now but yeah the no halloween and then my son chimed in and was like halloween's next week and i was like god damn it guys we got to get on this schedule thing like where we got a ways to go yeah.
Yeah. That's a very funny way to grow up, though.

Every day that I don't have school, I get nuts.

Yeah, right.

That's exactly what they assume.

Or something special is about to happen.

Yeah.

Nope.

It's Thursday.

Speaking of the aquarium, what the fuck is going on with a pregnant Stingray?

I don't know.

Still hasn't given birth.

Oh.

That bitch was- RG3's baby.

That bitch was never pregnant.

Yeah.

Never pregnant.

You see who just became a dad?

Who?

Pucks to Tawny Phil.

Really?

Yeah.

Groundhog fucks?

I guess so.

I don say high. Really? I would love to see groundhogs.
There's so much fur. It's like two pillows fucking, two throw pillows fucking.
They've got the cute little buck teeth. They're probably chatting away while they do that.
Watching a turtle fuck is wild. Yeah, it is.
And they scream. Yeah.
They welcome two babies. He had twins? I guess.
Wait, Phil? Yeah. Wait, he had the baby? Or he's a dad.
Yeah. He's a father.
Why the buddy's pregnant? If they made Phil a woman, I'll join everyone who's been red-pilled and been like, our society's going to shit. You can't do that.
I guess Phil came early this year. Yeah.
God damn it. Okay, so he's got two kids.
Yeah, two baby groundhogs. He's not going to get any sleep.
He's going to do a bad job of fucking telling us if it's winter or not. How are they going to decide which one of his kids becomes the next groundhog? I don't know.
They got to fight to the death. It's the first time in 138 years.
That Phil has had a kid? Yeah. How old is Phil? I don't know.
I'm going to send you guys the article. There's got to be multiple Phil's, yeah.
By the way, little correction, even though I don't... I'll still stand with my take that Flacco the owl was a slut, big time slut.

I guess the pigeon herpes might have been because he was eating pigeons.

Yeah, that's that good explanation.

Right.

Flacco.

Right.

Uh-huh.

Yeah.

Eating their cock.

Hey, babe, I have no idea where these herpes came from.

Must have been necrophiliac.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So wait, he was probably going down on the pigeon.

That's what I'm saying.

Yeah.

He's eating their cock. So I'm sticking with full on slut shaming of Flacco.
You were a slut. That's how you got the herpes.
That's how your brain got worms. That's how you die.
Very convenient Flacco. Hot guy.
Flacco. Phil and Phyllis.
What? Phyllis is Phil's baby mom. Oh, so he's got.
Phyllis. I like that.
Okay. I sent you guys the article.
Okay I'm going to see this. Are they married? Is it out of weather? Oh, there's nothing I like more than when a zoo does a wedding for two of their animals.
Yeah. Phil and Phyllis.
Those are also the names of retro Phillies mascots. Oh, shit.
Remember when de Blasio dropped the... What is it? A hedgehog? No.
No, de Blasio, the hedgehog went missing. No, no, it wasn't a hedgehog.
He dropped it. What is Punxsutawney Phil? He's a groundhog.
He's the least on all Ghalib. Pull up de Blasio.
De Blasio dropped a groundhog on its head and it died like a day later. They got rid of the groundhog.
Yeah, no, it died. They killed it.
He just fucking dropped a groundhog. That doesn't get talked about enough.
groundhogs live up to six years in the wild but punks of tony groundhog club i want to be a member of that club has previously stated phil's longevity comes from taking a sip of the elixir of life every summer at the groundhog picnic the secret recipe magically gives him seven more years of life they're just giving him ecstasy philatrates he's giving him diddy's pink cocaine wait so, so they're saying that this- This is Dune. Yeah.
I've never seen Dune. We've been told that this is the same Phil for 138 years and that it's a magic groundhog that never dies.
They're killing groundhogs left and right. Yeah, wait.
Get the video. I want to see the video.
He dropped the groundhog and then the groundhog died like a day later. You can probably just search for videos of it.
I don't know why you had to use Twitter. Okay.
I'm Sidney Sweeney. Yeah.
Probably doing the Sidney Sweeney thing. Yeah.
No, this isn't it, Max. Oh, yeah.
Maybe it is. Okay, so he's got the groundhog.
Yeah, he just drops it. Oh, my God.
Dude, you got to hold it. And then the groundhog died.
Got a concussion.

Was dead.

The next day.

Yeah, they put it in the blue shed.

Fucking de Blasio.

What a jerk.

All right.

That was groundhog talk.

Find you a podcast that does groundhog talk in late March.

It's just, it's unreal that they're telling us that this groundhog's been alive for 130 years.

Shout out the Phillies retro logo.

It's a great logo.

Great logo.

Phil and Phyllis.

Yeah, I don't know.

I don't know about that, Max.

Yeah, I don't know about that, Max.

I'm a Mrs. Met man.

I don't know about that, Chief.

Okay, Jake.

My Firefest, I guess, is a little bit of a reverse, too.

It's really a good thing, but in the moment, it's a bad thing.

I did my first ever cold plunge last week.

Oh, how'd it go? I have it on video. it was really it was you scream yeah of course how long were you in there for three minutes that's a long time yeah you're gonna be like huberman in no time so yeah it's it was very hard but for three those are the slowest three minutes i've ever had yeah so i But I did it.
Did you feel like a man when you got out?

Yeah.

It feels really good when you get out.

But that moment of duck in your head, oh, boy.

Yeah.

Of all the people that I thought would be a cold plunge guy,

I think Jake was last on my list of people that I thought would be doing this.

But it's a good way to just cleanse out.

Uh-huh.

Yeah.

Get that T up.

Yeah.

It's been a busy month.

I've still not gone to cold plunge world.

I've done it a few times.

Actually, I've done it once, but I was at a gym, and I don't think it was like fully cold.

It was like the cold bath at a gym.

It's great for a hangover.

Yeah.

You go hot, cold, hot, cold, and then your body is just so confused that it can't be

hungover anymore.

Yeah.

I used to do it before it was cool.

Oh, really? Yeah. We used to do it.
When it oh really yeah we used to do it for baseball back in college do you guys know i went to a training facility when i was in college and biz was also at that training facility at the same same time doing what for like a month who's that worse for uh definitely biz yeah yeah i was a college kid he was was like, oh, yeah, that guy plays in the NHL. And then he was always cracking jokes and the yoga and stuff that we had to do.
Uh-huh. And then it ended up being Biz.
Yeah. That's crazy.
That is crazy. Wild story.
Biz walks into an elite athletic training facility. He's like, yeah, I'm an NHL player.
I got to get my body right. And then Max is just there farting two sodas the whole nine yards.
Max, how many times did you get tagged in that tweet the other day of the guy who was like, whoever's eating a burrito on the plane, we can all smell it. Yeah, I mean, that's all my mentions are for anything.
I saw it. I was just like, Max probably got tagged a million times.
Is Pug out of the vet? Nope, Pug's still in the vet. Is he going to have a cone on next week?

I don't know.

He's got one arm shaved?

Yeah.

Alright, numbers.

8.

40.

20.

3.

77.

18.

We dance, Max. We're dancing.

38.

38.

Love you guys. We'll be right back.
Anyway, today is a lovely day to find you. Shine away.

I'll be coming for your love of three.

Shine away.

I'll be coming for your love of three.

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