Patrick Beverley, March Is Here, NFL Cuts, Mike Tyson Is Back + Fyre Fest Of The Week

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Today is Friday, March 8th. Boys, I'm feeling the March Madness.
I'm feeling it. I'm feeling it.
We got Bubble Watch everywhere. We got big games everywhere.
Conference tournaments underway. Conference tournaments.
Day basketball is here. Day basketball is nice.
Not just like a couple games. We're talking about balls deep in day basketball.
Balls deep in day basketball. This is the time.
I was thinking about it. These two weeks before conference tournament March Madness is such a weird.
We're like in the middle of everything. We're in the middle of NFL free agency happening.
We're, we're, we're right before NFL free agency happening. NBA is kind of in a weird lull.
Hockey playoffs haven't started. We haven't gotten a conference championship.
We're getting through that though, right now to one of the best portions of the year. And that is March.
And I wish someone had told me that Murray state racers were the worst team in the country. Oh, did they fuck you? Oh man.
They fucked me bad bad. Hard.
But, yeah, it's awesome. I mean, there's nothing better than Bubble Watch and all these teams fighting for their lives.
We had, like, Seton Hall, Villanova the other night. That was a great game.
Pug versus Max. Pug came out victorious.
Pug is our people's champ. A lot of people were saying they didn't know that's what Pug looked like.
Yeah, like someone said he looks like if you and Jake had a kid. Yeah, I agree.
Pug is just like, he's better off being a figment of one's imagination. Yeah.
We also have Senior Night. Senior Night.
Always big. In some cases, multiple Senior Nights.
That's what I love about this time of year. It's like, if you're thinking that maybe you're going to kind of graduate, you can have Senior Night, and then you can come back and do a second senior night armando baycott finally uh had his final senior night his last one yeah officially yeah he had a unc i think we have unc duke on saturday but uh there was one senior night that bothered me i didn't realize this till i turned it on i think it was two nights ago did you guys know that joe gerard syracuse legend transferred to cleon, and then he had a senior night against Syracuse?

I didn't know that.

That's kind of fucked up.

That is fucked up.

You should just say, no, you know what?

I'm good.

I don't need my jersey and everything.

I've only been here for a cup of coffee.

I'm a Syracuse legend.

Yeah, every nice senior night if you're young gravy, right?

That's the guy that loves MILFs, Hank?

Yeah.

I know rap.

He loves MILFs?

But that's like saying, I like bacon.

No, some people don't like MILFs. Actually, no no by very definition i think a milf yeah would be loved yes correct because it's someone that you'd love to fuck correct okay it's like he he's kind of doing a late he's like he's like posting his a picture of his dog online being like retweet this well he's also kind of like the uh the dana beers of the rap game where it's just like he's going to say something that's universally beloved yeah and make it his own brand like i'm the beer guy i like drinking beer you know what gets slept on ice cream yeah you're the ice cream guy no not not enough people are talking about how good french fries are yeah donuts you're also the interesting you're the ice cream guy and the no-dunk guy i like food hanks the golf and vacation guy that's a pretty good brand yeah he's doubling it I got to find a boondoggle.
Did you see Tennessee SEC champions? Yes. My Tennessee volunteers.
We had UConn and Tennessee clinch in the last few days. Yep.
I think Purdue as well. There's some arguments going on online, some discourse about Dalton Connect, doing the put the ring on my finger celebration.
Yeah. Like save that for the tournament, buddy.
I think if you're Dalton Connect connect and you transferred from was it north dakota yeah well one of the dakotas you transferred from dakota and you won an sec championship which is supposed to be a very difficult conference this year you should be allowed to stick your ring figure in people's faces he won an sec regular season championship i think winning the sec tournament is the ring that's where i think it's the the tournament is it feels feels like when you get into the tournament conference championship week, that's the thing. If you ask UConn, would they rather win the Big East tournament or the Big East regular season, I think they'd want to win the Big East tournament.
Both banners though, right? Yeah, you get a banner. There's something about winning the tournament.
You've got a year on a banner. Yeah, there's something about winning your tournament though that is special.
Yeah, I agree. So hopefully they win that, and then he gets another ring, double ring.

Yeah, so as I've discussed on this show, I'm heavily leveraged into volunteers this year.

I think Tennessee and Houston are my two picks.

I'm a – why is that?

Just going with all free work, volunteers.

Oh, that's good.

Nice, Hank.

Good joke, Hank.

Yeah.

Look at that brain. Is Lib left or right, Hank? did you sleep well last night uh lib is left yeah you slept well last night didn't you yeah oh wait did you get did you take your medicine yeah Hank might be on his medicine right now yeah it's I take my medicine every day that's why you're locked in dosage no I haven't seen the tongue haven't seen the tongue out yet.
Once the tongue comes out, yeah.

Good for you, Hank.

Thanks.

Okay.

I forgot what I was going to do.

Oh, yeah, Dalton Connect.

So I want Tennessee to do well.

I think that they could do well.

But watching him play last night, I was thinking to myself,

I could see him getting shoved around in March.

Yeah.

I could see a physical team just like-

Well, Houston.

Yes.

Exactly.

I could see a tough team like Houston, Kelvin Sampson, being like like go out there and beat the fuck out of the skinny guy yes and see what happens uh so i'm a little nervous about that but uh i still i still really like tennessee we we uh you know tennessee's very very good we we also have a uh uh coach watch with shaka smart did you guys see the clip shaka smart the fact that he not been teed up, I'll try to find the clip for you. He runs, he's playing defense as a sixth man on the court.
It's insane. And I don't know, Max, you're a Big East guy.
Like, does this, how does this not, how is this allowed? I mean, Shaka Smart is like the universally hated guy of every team in the Big East. It's crazy.
Watch this, PFT. Watch this.
Watch this. Look at him.
Look at him play defense. Yeah, he's on the court.
He's guarding guys on the court. No one's saying anything.
I actually think he stepped over. I think he was like he would have shot a two-pointer if he had the ball.
Yes. He's actually more on the court than off the court.
He spends more time on the court in this one possession that everyone was noting. It's insane.
He's in a perfect spot for a three-point shot if someone wanted to pass him the ball. That film's going to get out, though.
Refs are going to be looking for it in the next game. It's crazy.
We also had Matt Eberflus and Matt LaFleur sitting next to each other. So Matt Eberflus is hot.
Dude, he's becoming zaddy. I was going to say he's a daddy.
Yeah, he is. He is.
Big daddy vibes. He's got the nice, like, gelled up hair now, the stubbly beard.
I don't think it's going to work, but I appreciate him trying something new. Yeah.
He looks like a bear. I would almost guarantee that Matt LaFleur probably tricked Matt Eberflus into giving him some type of secret about the draft or something, which has been like, so what are you guys thinking about one in nine? And then Matt Eberflus is like, well, here's what we're going to do.
Do you think they actually talked any football at all? Matt LaFleur probably tried to talk football, and Matt Eberflus was like, what are you – I don't speak that. I don't speak that language.
Matt Eberflus was like, you know who's really good is Justin Fields. You could use Justin Fields, right? You could use him.
Well, people were creating funny memes where it was just Matt LaFleur being like, so if you're ever down eight, you always want to kick the field goal. And Matt Iberflues being like, okay, okay, that's good strategy.
That makes sense. Yeah.
So, by the way, Matt LaFleur, we got to get him back on the show. He did reach out to me.
I think he was happy that Dan Quinn got some field goal anger. A little take him off the hot seat for a minute.
Yeah, yeah. I've been holding that one for a long time.
I was able to overlook Dan Quinn making the Matt LaFleur mistake because, honestly, I would suck a dick to get to the NFC Championship game in general. So if he fucks that up in a late-game scenario against Tom Brady, I would be okay with that.

Yes, yes.

I'm a loser.

I don't care about that.

We have, in football, we do have cut day.

The Bills cut their entire team.

Damar?

No.

Prayers up for Damar.

Prayers up for Damar.

No, they—

He was the original Clemming.

They cut Mitch Morse, which was the big surprise.

He was the original Clemming.

He was the big surprise. Their center.
I think Jordan Poyer's out. A couple other guys.
DJ Poyo. They're doing a whole reset, which is needed.
So, yeah, I was seeing all these cuts yesterday, and there was a lot of window talk about the Bills. You have to talk about their window if it's opening or closing.
Tredavious White is really fucking good. He's good when he's healthy, but he's been out.

Yeah, he hasn't been healthy.

I almost feel like the Bills could deal with just getting new blood in there

that haven't been around for the heartbreaks

because you carry that baggage with you.

Yeah.

If you're a player on that team, if you're a coach on that team,

every time you have a heartbreaking loss to Joe Burrow

or to Patrick Mahomes, especially Patrick Mahomes,

that's a scar that you keep with you for a long time. And in the back of your head, you're like, are we going to be able to do it this time? Get some guys in there that don't know any better.
Yeah. I mean, I think they were smart in the fact – well, not even smart.
They had to do it. They were in cap hell, and they don't want to become like the Saints where every year they're just in cap hell.
So they did a hard reset. Yeah, I don't mind it.
Get some players in the draft. There's a lot of centers in the draft.
Get some new blood there. There was another report that came out.
I think it was on the Pat McAfee show. Dalton Schultz was talking about the difference between playing for the Texans and the Cowboys.
And he was saying some things about Hank's Dallas Cowboys that seem kind of ridiculous to an outsider. Somebody that's not like on that team or familiar with Dallas.
He said that they in Dallas, in Dallas, it's like being in a zoo that you, when you work out in the, in the workout facility, in the weight room, there are tours of people that go by and there's a one way mirror and people can walk by and just watch you work out and tap on the glass and try to get your attention. So they're doing, it's like, it's like an amusement park for football fans going through there, seeing the team work out.
He's like, it's nice to just be in an environment where football is football. Yeah.
And that's what it's kind of always going to be like in Dallas if Jerry Jones is the owner. So you take the good and the bad.
But that's the prime example of why Dallas, if you're a player on the Cowboys, you're like, why do you pay so much attention to us? Why are we the only thing that you talk about? What are the hot takes? Well, because you turn. You're a zoo.
You're a zoo where people can go through and it's more of like an entertainment thing. I would imagine being on that team, it wouldn't be the best thing in the world to be working out and have people watch you.
Yeah. Having people watch you work out like you're making weird noises, you're sweaty.
That shit sucks. Yeah.
You need a haircut probably. But yeah, all that stuff.
We also had Michael Thomas's time with the Saints has ended, and he ended it in the perfect Michael Thomas way, where it was reported by a Saints insider who wrote a long article being like the tumultuous times with Michael Thomas. It didn't work out.
Michael Thomas then went to Twitter and he said, Jeff Duncan, funny how they planned on releasing me if I was on a one-year deal. Don't fall for it.
He the same dude that tried to be my friend in season after saying I wasn't the same player in training camp. Next topic, but not next topic because we're going to stay on Jeff Duncan for a minute.
Jeff Duncan is a hoe. No, that's a new topic.
Trying to stay relevant, so let's speak on it. The Saints leak information to him to try to ruin players' value, but see, I'm not broke, so I can speak on it.
He is broke, so he needs clicks. Go look at all his articles that never ended up being true.
Next topic. Look at this clown.
It's a picture of Jeff Duncan. Y'all think he know ball.
Yeah, right. Y'all really clicking links to what he write? Hashtag good luck.
Look like he take them salt things.

What is that?

What's a salt thing?

I don't know.

Smelling salts?

No.

Bath salts.

Bath salts?

Do you think that's what it is?

Chips?

Salt things.

You take them salt things.

What are the salt things?

It might be bath salts.

It might be bath salts, yeah.

Salt things?

I'm looking up.

Look like he take them salt things. What are salt things? Mike Thomas from Florida.
Salt things. Bath salts, margarita salts.
I think he means bath salts. I think bath salts, yeah.
He's doing the zombie thing. Or maybe he's just salty.
He's a salty person. Hank takes those salt things.
Yeah, Hank is on those salt things. For sure.
Absolutely. But yeah, everyone's're getting ready we're getting ready for nfl free agency everyone's getting cut uh i was actually i forgot that michael thomas was still on the saints yeah hand up they gotta find a new slant yeah uh ever had one of those days when it's just too cold to keep working nah neither has ariat ariat work jackets and boots are packed with all the cold stopping waterproof protection you need to get the job done under any conditions so you can take any job out there and always deliver.
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So yeah, what else is going on now? There's some more fallout with the Arch Manning decision. Yeah.
People are still mad about that. It's not really new fallout, it's just more people getting mad about Arch Manning now.
And I think they're actually going to stop people from creating their own Arch Manning in the game. Yeah.
Which is, I don't like that. No, I don't like that.
You're allowed to create your own Arch. We have Jake Paul versus Mikeul versus mike tyson yeah so i'm gonna watch i'm i'm still the mindset that i think mike tyson could kill anybody steps in the ring with i've said this before but i uh am we're both of the age where i remember the end of mike tyson's career and still like like begging my dad to buy the pay-per-views because i was like he could knock anyone out yeah and just getting 20 years ago into getting absolutely like the end of his career he just wasn't he was just biting people's ears he wasn't trying like but the idea is that mike tyson one of the most ferocious boxers of all time could knock anyone out at any moment and that's how you sell fights and i'm in on this fight so this is kind of crazy walking with his cane it doesn't matter yeah still one punch hank he could kill him one punch unless they have the no knockout rule then it's gonna suck because remember they did that oh they can't have the no knockout they did that though they give they don't sanction the fight they make it a no knockout rule i don't like that stand around i would exhibition that would that would be in sanction the fight i would not buy it if it was no knockout.
If it was Mike Tyson, no knockout. I think it's free.
Okay. Well, if you have a Netflix.
Okay. Well, that's so, again, I think it's free because everyone has Netflix.
Or you have your mom's password. Yeah.
But yeah, I'm going to watch because Mike Tyson could knock anyone out. You could accidentally knock him out.
It's a rare fight where I think most times when Jake Paul fights somebody, in fact, I'd say almost every time people buy the fight because it's jake paul let's see what he can do let's he's the main attraction in this one i think mike tyson might be the main attraction without a doubt like mike tyson i think could fight almost anybody and i would watch yeah yeah he's he i'm in no matter what and it it's free, so I'm doubling.

But the no knockout's going to suck.

I also respect Jake Paul for taking every single fight where afterwards the question is,

that was impressive.

Do you think he could do it against a real fighter?

Yeah.

He just finds new ways to redirect the conversation.

Yeah.

And this is a perfect one because Mike Tyson's a real fighter,

but he's 57 years old.

He's 68.

I also lost to Tommy Paul.

Who?

Jake Paul. Yeah, he did.
Or Tommy Fury fury tommy fury tommy paul tommy paul tennis it you have tennis on the brain oh no i just tommy paul jake tommy paul uh did you see chris sims also released his top six qb's in this year's draft i did not see that okay i will read it to you. Is this something people are talking about? Yeah.
I mean, Chris Sims is for everything he's wrong about with Tuanon. He actually has been pretty good with his tiers when it comes to the quarterback stuff.
When I think Chris Sims, I think Tuanon, and then I think Blake Bortles. Yeah.
He hated Blake. Okay.
So, tier one, a class of his own, Caleb Williams. Okay.
Tier two, number one in other years, Jaden Daniels. Tier three, franchise starting quarterbacks.
There's a lot of franchise starting quarterbacks in one year. Bo Nix, Michael Penix Jr., J.J.
McCarthy. Bo Nix.
bo nicks is number three tier four talented project drake may he knows what he's doing drake may he knows what he's doing project i think two years ago on this very podcast we said i can't wait until bo nicks enters the draft and some team takes him in the first round and then i think the other i forget who was on each side of this conversation the other person said that's never going to happen have you watched him play now now chris sims has been very wrong too he just i i i do know that he like actually watches the film

and he's making his own decisions so i at least respect him throwing out there because i do think

he had zach wilson number one uh with the draft with trevor lawrence which that whole draft stinks

so we've got drake as an interesting project and it sounds like how many franchise quarterbacks do we have? Six. Six franchise quarterbacks.
Six. That would be the best quarterback draft in the history of the NFL.
Yeah. Okay.
Yeah. Listen, if there's six franchise quarterbacks, I'm going to miss on the seventh.
That's what it's going to be. Chris Sims did.
I'm looking back right now at his previous ones. 2017, he did have Patrick Mahomes as his most talented, most special QB talent.
So he's been right at least once. Okay.
You know what? It's in the hands of the Lord. Yeah.
That's how you got to feel it. It's just like it is what it is.

It is what it is.

What will happen will happen.

All right, I'm looking 2018 rankings of quarterbacks.

Number one, Lamar Jackson.

Number two, Josh Allen.

Number three, Baker Mayfield.

Number four, Sam Darnold.

Number five, Josh Rosen.

He kind of nailed that.

Yeah, nailed that.

Well, Josh Rosen, number five.

Yeah. Well, I mean, he had to put someone number five.
I guess so, yeah. Yeah, but he kind of nailed that yeah nailed that well josh rosen number five yeah yeah i mean he had to put someone number five i guess so yeah yeah but he kind of i mean i would put josh allen number one but he like to have because sam darnold went first out of all of them yeah so he kind of no baker baker won one then sam darnold then josh allen then josh rosen and lamar so he kind of nailed that Sims, maybe, let's see, 2019.
This is actually a sad thing to go through. Record with QB.
2019, he had Kyler Murray, one. Drew Locke, two.
Dwayne Haskins, three. Ryan Finley, four.
Jarrett Stidham, five. Daniel Jones, six.
So he kind of nailed that one. 2020, what? Daniel Jones.
I'd put Daniel Jones above Finley finley yeah but kyler murray number one uh six or 2020 he had joe burrow one justin herbert two jordan love three two or four that might age well that might age fuck okay so that might age well so he's got in terms of franchise quarterbacks bo nicks jj mccarthy and and michael penn and michaelix. And then he obviously had Zach Wilson number one in the 2021 draft, so that did not go well.
But he's been more right than wrong. That's a lot to think about.
He's been more right than wrong. That kind of scares me, but he's been more right than wrong.
Except it doesn't scare me because I have the number one pick. Is there a chance this is? You've got to take Jaden Daniels.
So that's the thing is like I've never been more sure of the fact that whichever quarterback that we don't take is going to be really good. Right.
And then Hank gets the one that we don't take. Yep.
I would rather be picking third. I would.
Yeah, because then you're like, well, we had to do it. We had to do it.
Our decision was made for us. Like the Texans.
Because I like Drake and I like Jaden. You're in the worst spot.
I am in the worst spot. Hank, would you- One in three is great.
Hey, would you like to trade up to number two? I'll trade back to number three, and then I'll throw in a long snapper. Because even if Caleb Williams doesn't pan out, which he probably won't because he's going to go to the Bears, but even if he doesn't, it was the consensus.
If you were number one pick, if you were number number one, you all would have taken Caleb Williams. You had to do it.
So I'm clear. Yeah, I'm clear with that.
Well, that happened before. With whom? With Mitch.
Well, he was number two pick, and he also just got a new contract. I don't know if you saw that.
No, I know. I'm just saying.
The Bills cut all their good players to pick up Mitch. Being like, oh, it's consensus.
Number one. In five years, if it doesn't pan out, you'll be like, fuck.
Well, yeah. No, but everyone would have taken Caleb Williams.
Yeah, of course you'll say, fuck, it didn't work out. Mitch wasn't fully consensus.
But I would say that Caleb Williams is the right pick to make it number one right now. Right.
If you guys had number one, like if the Chiefs had had number two in that 2017 draft, they would have probably taken Patrick Mahomes.

I don't know if there's another team that if they had number one would take anyone but Caleb Williams, right?

And then two, you have to decide.

And then three, you get whoever's left.

So yeah, Hank and I are in a good spot.

I need to know who's controlling the monitor computer for Pardon Me Take right now because it keeps searching on Twitter for Sidney Sweeney and then scrolling through all the images. Who's doing that? Memes, is that you? It's not.
I'm not going to say who it is, but it's not me. Somebody's just looking up Sydney Sweeney right now.
I was looking at what was trending. She was trending.
Max, you just looked. No, no.
You typed in Sydney Sweeney. Wrong.
Look. It's trending.
It was the first thing that was trending. I thought maybe something.
Max, I would think that Sidney Sweeney wouldn't be one of your favorites. No, I mean, I was just seeing what was going on.
I've looked up Mitch before. I showed Mitch, and then I thought, oh, maybe Sidney Sweeney's got something.
Max, you absolute freak. Did you forget that we could see that? I don't know.
I guess. Add to the list, Hank.
Add hank by the way i have i have a weird thing going on that uh memes you might be interested in i don't know how this happened i don't know if i've ever met him in my life but greg zirline just texts me randomly really yeah one of the weirdest one he like sends me like memes and stuff like he sent me a, good luck with the free throws today, GZ.

I like that.

Have a great Saturday, Big Cat.

Hope you enjoy this meme.

And it's just a meme.

It's like a blurred meme.

I don't even understand the meme.

Yeah, I don't know either.

One of the weirder.

Greg Zerline, I like you, dude.

We had him on the show, I think, like 2017.

Oh, we did.

Remember, we did punt week.

That's right.

It was him, Marquette King.

McAfee.

But he's a place kicker.

We had kicker week?

I don't know that we had him on.

I don't know that we had him on i don't think we did have him on i think he just has my number and i'm friends with greg zirline he just texted me hope you're having a great day man gz i like that same to you greg i've never met him i kind of want to call him I was like, how'd you get my number, dude's airline How about that So you're just looking at You're looking at Sydney Sweeney right now Max While we're just doing the show She was trending I thought maybe that we could get some Maybe something happened that we could talk about Get some info So why were you only looking at the images result That's not true Just if you click on her thing, it's all images. So why is she trending? No, you were on the media tab.
No, I wasn't. Yes, you were.
This is a different tab than it was before, Max. This is a lie.
So why is she trending, Max? I don't know. Max, how much did you look at that Steph Curry picture last night? Not for me.
Are boobs back? Boobs? I told you. Sidney Sweeney has done it.
it i think boobs are back guys yeah uh that that picture all time for people who didn't see there's a picture of steph curry after he had a big three and in the background there's a woman who has uh large breasts very attractive and then a guy sitting front row with his two kids just completely turned around staring at her rack and that guy had probably the worst walk into his house where he was like, that was great. I took the boys to a game, dad of the year.
Then his wife, no, the NBA, the official NBA account cropped it out. Oh, I love that.
Yeah, they cropped it out. Or she's right behind it.
You know what? That's disgusting on the part of the NBA. There it is.
That's the picture. To me, that's actually body shaming that woman.

Yeah.

Who went to the game simply to celebrate, to cheer on her favorite team. Look at this guy.

And the NBA is like, your body is so inappropriate that we won't include it in a picture of the game.

Yeah.

That's so perfect that that guy just like, he's sitting with his two young sons and just bam.

Whoops.

How was the game, honey? Oh, it was great did steph curry hit any big shots yeah of course what do you think of his celebration this picture uh i think there was a fight going on yeah i was i was telling her to sit down because she was disrupting the crowd maybe we do mount rushmore top top moments like when you're in the stands that that being one of them when there's just that happening behind you but there's nothing better than being in the stands and there's a fight breakout and everyone stands up and like like that whole the whole section takes their eyes off you're like oh what's going on remember when the caps won the stanley cup and i think ov was getting the cup and that woman in vince just took her tits out and pushed them up against the glass yep that rocked yep uh that happened in a world series game too yeah yeah marlon's man i think he was right there he was we have some inside sources and when i say that was jake paul's girlfriend yeah keith the andle saw i don't know if i told you this unreal keith the andle ran into mar's man at the uh track wait wait saturday yeah okay all right so uh i picked up he did the usual so keith yandel facetimed me marlin's man was sitting next to him he did the usual he was like hey hank where's rita hey hey where's pft's mom i was like all right what are we doing marlins so then i yeah they're real and then i hung up and keith yandle text me after he goes i ran into marlins man and i was like i know the guys from part of my take and marlins man said if you know them what are saturdays for the passcode passcode is boys you'll never you'll never get it so perfectly marlins man yeah what a gangster gangster. Only other thing I had from the sports world is Ben Simmons is out for the year.
Oh, okay. I don't even know.
He's at the point now where it's not even news anymore. We're doing the Ben Simmons and Michael Thomas are not playing their sports.
Yeah. That's leading the show today.
Yeah, no shit. But, yeah, what has Ben Simmons been doing? It was news to me that he was in for the year.
Yeah. And now he's out.
Well, that's too bad. Oh, yeah, Carl Anthony Towns.
The meniscus? Yeah, the Wolves. That's tough for the Wolves.
Very tough for the Wolves. Poor Wolves.
Out indefinitely. But the Warriors might be back.
Yeah. No, they've been playing good ball, other than the drubbing.
Yeah. Well, Hank,ank you well steph steph said not that i know the term gets overused a lot and i coined it and i you know sometimes we say it tongue-in-cheek jokingly that was the definition of a start of championship dvd loss against the calves against the calves late in the season they got complacent they blew a hugequarter lead.
It doesn't affect them in the standings. They're still number one.
They still have a good lead as long as they play out the rest of the season good. But that was a wake-up.
That was a good wake-up call game. I would make the argument that it's the very definition of a start of the championship TV loss for the Warriors to get hit by a bus by the Celtics.
That's fair. I think that fits the definition a lot more.
No, but the Celtics blew a lead. It's like number one team on the road.
They were up like 17 with nine minutes left, and they lost. And there's no excuse for it, but ultimately it shouldn't matter.
They're still going to be the ones. So what's more powerful? If it's Warriors-Celtics in the finals, which one?

I think it might be Warriors.

If the Warriors go on a run here.

Yeah.

I would love to play the Warriors in the finals.

Love to.

Because the last time you played them, you killed them?

And we're just a way better team.

We've upgraded since that team.

Steph is old.

Draymond's old.

They don't have Jordan Poole.

Jordan Poole killed us in that series. And then he got punched and then everything changed yeah yeah but they got that big man what's his name who warriors new big man they got that they're playing more are you talking about uh no wait are you talking about their usual big man no what's are you talking about coming coming is playing more yeah the cum bucket yeah i like it yeah no that's his nickname yeah the cum bucket yeah coming of the cum bucket uh okay should we get to pay the hanks patriot patriot of the day there's making a sandwich and then there's crafting a sandwich and when i want something perfectly crafted i go straight to boar's head over a century, Boar's Head has been dedicated to crafting premium deli favorites.

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Discover the craftsmanship behind every bite at boarshead.com. Hank, the Patriots Dynasty documentary is at the stage now where they're having to release statements on did you see this oh the uh director had to release a statement because at the end credits of every episode it's like all rights crafts craft llc or something like that and everyone's like well clearly the crafts created this as a bill belichick takedown piece and then then they had to release a statement being like, no, the Patriots gave us a bunch of

footage and we had to create an LLC so that Apple wouldn't own the footage.

The Craft LLC would own the footage.

Seems like a lot of talking about the fact that the public opinion is like, this is a

crazy, crazy documentary how they've done it.

Yeah.

So they're saying, wait a second.

It actually isn't the Crafts documentary. It just is owned by the Crafts.
Correct. Yeah.
So they're saying, wait a second. It actually isn't the crafts documentary.

It just is owned by the craft.

Correct.

Okay.

All right.

Yep.

Fair enough.

Yep.

Simple.

I'm glad they said that.

Simple confusion.

I'm glad they said that because until that statement came out, I was like, I think that

the crafts might own this.

Right.

So we have two new episodes coming out.

Two new episodes coming out.

Can't say I'm looking forward to them.

Although selfishly, hopefully I'm in one. What would you be in oh deflake it do you wait what would you say the percentages are that you're in deflake it i think the shot of us getting taken out getting arrested i think good give me the percentage i mean i it would be so fucking awesome if you were in they asked the i will say this too i do oh you have inside knowledge months and months and months ago but who knows what made the final cut producers hit me and gaz up and we're like oh you're in we're looking for footage hey why did you say that you're in this documentary because i don't know what they use or what they don't use when you're making these you just get everything you can get and then well if it's if it's you and gaz they definitely have you guys either marching outside yeah uh sitting down in the lobby or getting taken out i'm guessing it will just be like a quick shot of us walking out hey yeah you're in this thing i hope are you getting paid no does robert craft own you they were like yeah what do we have to do clear the rights of me and gas like just use whatever you want wait do you want to be in this now that it's become a takedown of

Bill Belichick? Yeah, just Leo.

Leo meme. Yeah, the Leo meme's gonna hit hard.

Yeah, that'd be... But I don't

want to get overexcited. It could very well get

cut. Yeah, no, I understand

how it works, but

I feel like they will use

a B-roll shot of us walking out. What if it's just

like Tom Brady getting suspended

had Patriots fans like, and then it's a picture of your workout picture that would suck um but for today you want to do honorable mention or my player first you traditionally do your player first uh so my remember if it's not mike rabel he might beat your ass well it is oh oh okay inside hindsight i wish i put him higher uh remember you can't cheat on this i didn't know i bellinger has the mask no no I didn't, I wish I put him higher.

Remember, you can't cheat on this. I didn't.

Cody Bellinger has the massive list.

No, no, I didn't cheat on it.

I'm saying in hindsight, if I knew what I knew, I would put him probably in the three spot.

Great linebacker for a long time.

Great pass catcher.

Legendary touchdowns.

Great dude.

They didn't even show that in really the documentary, which is crazy.

So what number did you have him?

He is number nine.

Number nine.

Top ten of all time.

Put me on this text.

I want to say.

Well, I was thinking I would just.

Put me on the text.

I was just thinking I would call him.

Yeah, call him.

No, don't put Hank on the text.

No, we're going to call Mike Vrabel and get his immediate feedback.

Congrats.

Say congrats.

I mean, that's.

Top ten is good. He also beat Tom Brady in his last...
It's kind of like the Chris Long thing. There is some bad...
Your call has been... All right, so text him.
That's tough. Yeah, put us all on the text.
Very tough. No, don't put him on the text.
Hank, you're not going on the text. So he's your number nine.

He was featured pretty heavily in the first couple episodes.

But I would like to get interviews with Vrabel.

I wanted to see Vrabel talking to America.

I want to hear more.

I want to hear from Brady about what Vrabel used to say to him.

Because they kind of just glossed over it a little bit.

But they were like, we were all pretty mean to Tommy.

And Mike Vrabel was by far the most most ruthless yeah yeah he was just like yeah but great guy uh recurring guest of the show number nine patriot all right yeah saved your ass maybe and your honorable mention my honorable mention is legarrett blunt the bowling ball yeah He was fun to watch. Super fun to watch.
Yeah, PFT just says, Hank has you number nine on the Patriots all time. Do you have a comment? So we'll wait for a comment.
We'll wait for a comment. And then write quotation marks.
You can do that on your own. I'll just actually.
Actually, I might have a second. Kind of low, not going to lie.
I'm going to add kind of low, not going to lie. I mean, that is disrespectful.
You said you wish you had put him number three. Well, yeah.
Now that I knew he was locked in. Why did you put him number three? I did this with a recurring guest.
I don't think I'm stupid and I don't. Well, you don't think you're stupid? No, I don't think period.
I'm stupid. Okay.
All right. I forget that this is a show that's listened to by a lot of people,

including the people that we talk about.

So when I make these lists, I'm just making the list.

I'm not thinking about same.

Actually, I did people coming back and being like,

like, obviously I should have put Julian Edelman, Mount Rushmore guests.

Like I love Julian Edelman.

He's a hero.

I just wasn't thinking like that.

He is up there, but realizing that he was going to be like, what the fuck you hurt me versus he could have been like, you're my boy. You put me top four.
We're boys now. Like that was dumb.
Yeah. We're able, same thing.
Teddy Bruce. He's not going to hear it.
Teddy Bruce. He doesn't give a fuck.
I should have put variable three and like, we would be boys, but now he's going to be like, Hank's a fucking loser. I'm going to give him a noogie the next time I see him.
Yeah. He's in noogie.
And it probably hurt a lot. Probably give you a concussion.
So that I need to get better at pandering and like being, you know, thinking about clout and not about just my honest. Not about truth.
I think it is the beauty of this show though is that we all kind of do the same thing where like we just tape a show and then send it out and we're like, no one's going to hear this. Wait, shit.
A lot of people heard this. Yeah.
The real world exists. Yeah.
What are you going to say, Max? Nah, I was just going to... Max is going to be like, nah, everyone's going to be talking about me looking at Sidney Sweeney's tits on the middle of the show.
No, I was just going to say I was just going to bust your balls and say it was stupid. I was going to say that I said that Julian Edelman should have been in the Mount Rushmore.
But you said no. Breaking moose.
Breaking moose. Breaking moose.ose mike frable has responded and he said fuck hank i'm gonna noogie him next time i see it no way no he said that's a good spot let's go there you go all right he said it took seven final ballots to get into the hall of fame okay so yeah it's a good spot shot of rabes yeah uh oh we didn't even even say probably the biggest news of this podcast this week is that we're in contact with Big Dom yeah Max is like freaking out yeah well I'm saving that for my fire fest we're in contact with Big Dom now what's the bigger news he He doesn't know.
He does know. Whatever, just shut up, Max.
You're not surprised. Wait, Max was so excited, he asked me if I could screenshot the text I got from Big Dom so he could send it to his family.
Yes, that actually is exactly what I wanted to do. I wanted to send it to my family.
We were talking about the different eulogies that you're going to get when you die. I think Max, if he died, would like to have just a screenshot of that text displayed over his casket.
He did say Max's name. The exact text was, this is Dom with the Eagles.
I just want to say I appreciate and respect the shit out of you, PFT and Max. I'm a big fan of your show.
If you're ever in Philly or need anything, you know, I got you my paisans. Amazing.
With the Italian flag emoji. The best.
He he's the best and later that night my older brother gave birth to his second kid named him dom your brother gave birth to his second care brothers my brother's wife gave birth to a second kid named him dom big dom did he name him after dom i'm gonna say yeah i'm gonna say that for his entire life that he's named big dom if you're listening right now that is that's your godson 100 that's your god yeah i I would go so far as to say that for his entire life that he's named after Big Dom. Big Dom, if you're listening to this right now, that's your godson.
100%. That's your godson.
I would go so far as to say that the name Dom might be on the Mount Rushmore of boy names that you don't want to get into a fight with. Yeah.
This is my buddy Dominic. He's coming over.
Dominic's going to stab you. Dominic Delente is a strong name.
Oh, yeah. That's a great name.
It's a good name. Yeah.
Double D is like Sidney. Oh, you have to use your hands to say that name.
Yeah. Dominic DelLente is a strong name That's a great name Double D is like You have to use your hands to say that name Dominic DeLente I can't wait for like 20 years from now When we have Dominic DeLente Sitting in the intern spot We're just trolling him Dominic DeLente is going to spend 12 years in prison for tax evasion We're just like Dominic Question for you Is it a must win or can't lose? Like, ugh! You guys, why don't you fucking do this? Fucking do this for me.
All right, let's get to our interview. It is a must listen.
I'm going to say right now, Pat Bev is the man. We came in on a Saturday.
We had him on for an hour and 15, talked about everything. Very, very, very good interview.
So let's get to Pat Bev.

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Pat Bev pod with Ron. Roan.
Roan. Yeah, you stole Roan from us.
We should just get that out should just get that out of the way right away. There you go.
Let's go ahead and get to it.

Stole Roan from us.

So I was told that by a very, very, very, very, very intelligent woman,

her name was Erica.

Mm-hmm.

She goes, when we picked you all, we knew something good was there.

So I'm guessing you were part of that group also who did the picking.

I did say Roan would be perfect for it, but I didn't know that was also signing my death sentence to never see Roan again. It's fine.
Roan is incredible. No, he's incredible.
Perfect co-host. He's incredible.
He's one of the best. Yeah, he is.
He's one of our most talented people. And the thing about Roan is you could put him in any situation and he will be good.
Yes. He was the uh housewives of uh salt lake city in milwaukee okay back room chilling eating shrimp hors d'oeuvres that's ron and i actually have talked about doing a doing a bravo podcast he and i both like the housewives all right so you're here shut out the wrong um like i said long time overdue we got a lot to talk about i don't even know where we want to Actually, you know what? I know where we want to start.
Who's the number one beef right now for Pat Peff? Beef? Yeah. Your coaches aren't shaking your hands.
Your former coaches aren't shaking your hands after games. Steve Clifford from the Charlotte Hornets did.
Okay. Finch didn't.
Billy Donovan told me he loved me. Okay.
And he did. Okay, so we're back on the right track.
But what happened with the other two? I don't know. That was weird.
Kind of weird. Nick Nurse and Finch didn't.
Finch. They didn't billy donovan told me he loved me okay he did okay so we're back on the right track but what happened with the other two i don't know that was weird kind of weird nurse and finchton they didn't shake your hands no did you go up to them did you try to initiate a handshake i did i took finchie but when i walked down at a nurse he was already gone yeah and i've been on the side where i watch because you know i want to be a future coach so i like to watch the mannerism of coaches and how they what they do before games and how do they greet the other coaches after games.
And I like to try to, OK, cool. I'll use that.
I'm not going to do that. And, you know, Finch is one of those guys who, you know, stay in this person and, you know, this to this coach.
Yeah, a little wave. Yeah, cool.
And, you know, then I'm instantly because I wanted to say what's up to him because I ain't talked to him since trade. it wasn't like a we just beat y'all fuck you like whatever um I play off of that game anyway so yeah it wasn't I was trying to exploit anything but uh yeah I look over like damn what the fuck fuck he go uh-huh like just disappeared on me like but hey is that because like you're you're an opponent today probably so I'll I'm gonna take that way.
I hope it's like that. Imagine if it's not.
I don't know you that well, but from what I do know about you, I would imagine that you as a head coach would kind of be the same way, where it's like, fuck them, we're playing you guys today. Afterwards, we can be nice.
Nah. You don't think so? No, not me.
As a head coach, I'm on some shit. You got to understand.
I'm there the first Sixers practice ever with three G League guys and me and Tyrese Maxey. On the first year of the coach's bid, you remember shit like that.
His first preseason game, we played Boston. He started me.
I remember shit like that as a player. So obviously as a coach, I would hope that he remembers shit like that.
So when you build those type of relationships when I got kicked out of school he was the first coach that I met when he was Iowa Energy I played for him when I was in the G League so yeah the relationship isn't like oh we just met this season it's deeper than it's what it's ever been so for him to walk off I felt some type of way yeah what about uh what about Daryl Morey still beef there uh I just I I know Daryl you understand what I'm saying I he literally came and got me from overseas. So, like, I've been on the Rockets teams.
I'm like, yeah, Darryl, get me the fuck up out of here, man. Find me somewhere else to play.
You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So it's business.
I understand how it is. You get a 35-year-old.
You pay him the minimum, right? You get Pat Bev for the fucking minimum. Like, still.
Literally still. You get all the vibes.
You get all the vibes. He changes my locker room.
He literally helps the organization make millions and millions and millions and millions more dollars. We're talking about Pat Bev right now.
Right, we're talking about Pat Bev, right? Belt to ass. Right, belt to ass, comes in locker room, gets locker room in order, plays well.
Then you trade him. You get a younger campaign, and you get a 14-year-old, a second-round pick.
Yeah. 1,000.
I was like, wait, did they actually get a 14-year-old? No, no, no. He's 14 right now.
15 years old. Whoever it is, he's 14.
Yeah, whoever it is, he's literally 15 years old. He just hit puberty.
He's probably listening to this podcast right now. He doesn't even know.
Like, congratulations, you got traded to the sixth. Right, right.
You don't even know, right? Exactly. So, yeah.
So, you get that from a guy you paid minimum 35. You got to think, that's a hell of a business move.
Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
I understand it. I think Rone took it harder than you took it.
Oh. Everyone in Philly.
Rone's like, it's on site. Rone was devastated.
I know. Devastated.
We were there the moment it happened, and he couldn't. It's a Super Bowl tradition now, because last year you got traded to, I think, the Jazz for a minute.
Yeah. It was a hot minute.
He was like, oh, shit, I got to go to Utah? Hot Hot minute. So I get traded to Jazz.
Sick story. I don't think I ever told you.
I get traded to the Jazz. And I don't know.
They just literally traded everybody. Donovan Mitchell's gone.
Rudy Gobert's gone. I'm like, okay, are you guys trying to be competitive? But I really don't know anyone because I literally just got traded there and I'm like, I don't

know what's going on. I show up every day, 5.30.

Six days in a row.

I show up every fucking day, 5.30.

I'm the first motherfucker there.

By the time I'm done, people, GMs

are just walking in. Are we trying to win?

Just let me know.

Let me know if we trying to win.

I got motherfuckers out they bed at 6 o'clock in the morning.

Yeah, I'm talking about professional.

I see GM.

He walking there with his son.

I go, man, I got to get out of here, Pat.

I got to take my son to school.

I'm like, you know what?

I'm glad you said that because I'm just trying to see

where I'm going to take my son to school this season.

And I'm going to be in Utah or I'm going to be, I need to know.

Same vibes.

You know what I'm saying?

So, yeah, that was it.

I mean, that's a tough one. Two days later later I was out that bitch.
You mentioned something I want to talk about because you have such a unique career. You were at Arkansas.
You left school. Someone wrote a paper for you? Someone, the tutor, turned in a paper that was hers and put my name on it.
did you get an a uh i don't even think i got a grade okay yeah they were like this isn't pat peps yeah and they tried to put the put the gun case on me right and i'm like no that ain't my that ain't how it happened nor am i about to sit here and tell neither right right hold the fort down i shut up you know lady you be quiet she goes said i i took her laptop i got a usb i imported it i i took the paper off that put it on the usb put it on my laptop i stopped the mid-sentence hey hey hey yeah right i'm from chicago i don't know don't get her in trouble i don't know how to do all yeah that's cool though but i don't know how to do all this it's like walking him through a mission right like yeah i don't know how to do it. Don't get her in trouble.
I don't know how to do all this. Yeah, yeah.
That's cool, though, but I don't know how to do all this. It's just like walking him through a mission.
Right. Yeah.
I don't know how to do all that, but I appreciate it. Later on, she said that she did it by the time it was too late.
She should have just held the fort down. Yeah.
It would have been in Arkansas. We'll pick.
But it's crazy because you left school, and then you went and played in Ukraine and Russia. Second division Ukraine.
How old were you when you were in Ukraine? 19, 20.

That's nuts.

What was that like?

Just like being like, all right.

So I leave practice every day.

You know,

there was no per diem

for food or anything.

So they had like a team

like restaurant that,

it might just been like

an area restaurant

that they called

the team restaurant.

There was a lady in the back

like a movie.

Big ass,

big ass pot of red borscht. Big stick.
I don't know what's in that motherfucker. Beats.
I would hope so, but I don't know what's in that. Yeah.
I'm in the Nephratwaz Ukraine. Been rabid in that motherfucker.
You know what I'm saying, anything. Every day, right, every day.
The owners come in, they come in with these tennis brackets. I go, oh, man, they athletic guys.
They know Pat, them ain't tennis brackets. I go, oh, okay, cool.
Okay, cool. AK-47.
Say less, right? I'm in second division Ukraine. 21-hour train ride.
I'm talking about the wet trains. I'm talking about it's so hot that the glass back is fog.
I got a bump guy up here and another bump high in there like I'm doing 23-1. That's my Ukraine life.
I'm thugging it out. I leave a big game, hit gang winner, take shower with a 70-year-old who just got done playing racquetball.
You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, that was Ukraine. That's wild.
And I assume the answer is no, but was there ever a moment where you were like, fuck, this is not going to work out? Yeah, that doesn't seem like a Pat Bev thing. So when you're playing in Ukraine and Russia, and then you get the call from Daryl Morey being like, hey, we're going to bring you to the Rockets.
What was going through your head? So I go Ukraine. I go Ukraine, then I go Greece.
I play on one of the best teams in Greece. Don't play at all.
Don't play at all. Championship game, I'm the youngest American to ever start in the EuroLeague championship.
Championship game, he starts me. Sick story.
Coach spoke very little English. Mind you, at the same time, Giannis and Thanasis, they're younger, but they're on the smaller team.

So they're actually looking up like, man, who is this black guy that's on Greece?

Layup line is my fucking game.

I don't play at all.

So the layup line is my game.

I'm doing all crazy dunks whenever the coach grabbed me.

Hey, lock in, layups.

I mean, I go off.

I lose my shit.

First time I ever lost my shit on a coach.

Fucking touching me, man.

What the fuck?

I'm in here.

I'm waiting for my fucking family, man.

This, this, this, this.

I'm not fucking playing.

He grabbed me.

Thank you. up.
I go off. I lose my shit.
First time I ever lost my shit on a coach. Fucking touching me, man.
What the fuck? I'm in here and waiting for my fucking family, man. This, this, this, this.
I'm not

fucking playing. He grabbed me.
Imagine

I got a team full of greats. I got Josh Shields,

Linus Clays. I got Vaughn Wafer,

Papa Lukas, European greats. He grabbed

me. One day you're going to be better than everybody.

English gets great like this.

I knew it since then.

I go Ukraine, Greece,

get drafted by the Heat, get cut by the Heat, Russia. We fly to this team called Vladivostok.
That shit's nine hours. It's near Japan.
It's nine hours away from the current destination I'm in in St. Petersburg, Russia.
Right? We get the call before I take off to play volleyball stoke. Do you want to play Cleveland?

Do you want to play for the Cleveland Cavaliers or do you want

to play for Houston Rockets? Mom

already moved to Houston, right?

Jalen's in Houston.

Kyrie Irving's in Cleveland.

I don't think

I could take Kyrie Irving's spot and decide

to, you know, I can get Jalen's

shit though. Yeah.

Fuck it. Jalen.

They make a decision on the way to Volleyville Stoke nine hours,

flop nine hours, back nine hours to St. Petersburg.

Pack my stuff.

The Russians, what they did to me with that contract was literally bent me over.

Really?

Bent me over.

I had a no clause I couldn't get into the – I can go anywhere,

but I can't go to NBA.

No NBA clause.

So you had to pay them? Yeah, I had to pay them. Holy shit.
So you bought yourself out? Bought myself out. Holy shit.
Yeah, not only did I have to pay them, had to pay like the GM of the team to go talk, to even have the conversation. Like, yeah, I talked to him.
I need $50,000. I'm like, damn.
All right, fuck it. It hit you up.
You know what I'm saying? It fucking shook you down. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the Russian way.
And I respect it because, you know, if it weren't for them, I wouldn't be here right now either. So I understand it.
They asked for all their money back. They gave me, I don't know, almost $2 million.
I was one of the highest paid Americans in Europe at the time. Mind you, I got MVPs.
I done took a second division team to the top team. This is what they do to me.
But it's part of the business. That's why I don't, what Daryl's doing, I done dealt with the Russians, man.

You understand what I'm saying?

It's light work.

It's light.

Yeah.

Light.

So, yeah, they bent me over,

put me in a hole about $3 million.

Fuck.

Then I had to come back.

Oh, man, okay, cool.

Cool, man, okay,

I'm in a hole about $2 million.

I'm cool now

because the NBA got the buyout.

I go to NBA buyout.

My buyout's like $1.4 million.

NBA, the maximum they allowed to pay is $400 million or like $350 at the time. So I got to come up with another meal.
So I come to the NBA. I come to the NBA like $2 million, two points something in the dough.
Holy shit. So what would have happened if you had just left? If you had said, fuck this, I'm going to leave Russia.
I know, but I mean, so it was a story one time. A guy took some money from Russia.
He used to play basketball. He left.
I'm going to fast forward this real story real fast. Now I'm going to say the names.
He plays in Russia doing, I don't know if it's lockout or this lockout, the past lockout or lockout before. He plays in Russia, gets the money, leaves, goes, gets, knock at the door, two Russian guys.
That's the story I heard. Don't know if it's true to it.
Ever since then, I don't like to fuck with the Russians. Yeah, but great grocery stores, though.
Yeah, elite. Good prices on groceries.
Elite, elite. And every woman wears heels, too.
Wait, who is that guy? Maurice Evans. Okay.
Damn. Ballheader used to play for Atlanta Hawks.
So I was reading some of your career achievements here. It said that you were a two-time Russian league all-symbolic first team.
Yeah. What does that mean? I don't know.
I'm thinking it's just all first team. I hope it's all first team.
All symbolic. But that's so – Maybe it's the guys that's not Russian, the other guys.
Yeah. But the whole story is incredible.
I would imagine it has a lot to do with why you are so loved in the NBA and your teammates everywhere you go because you probably just don't take anything for granted because you've been through it all. Seen Jay Lynn.
Seen Jay Lynn. Went to Houston.
Seen Jay Lynn. Before I play a game, they send me down to the G League.
Hey, Nick Nurse, long time no see. Right? Get called back up.
I literally pick up Jay Lynn. When he walked on the practice court, I picked him up for defense every single day.
That had to suck for him. Every single day.
Full court. He's coming out of the locker room and you're just in your stance.
Right? Because you got to think this is my life. I'm in a hole.
Yeah you understand what i'm saying it ain't even like about basketball man i gotta get the fuck out this hole imagine i signed a deal with darryl moore gives me a three-year 1.2 million dollar deal a three-year 1.2 million dollar deal that's the total that's the total yeah not each year yeah and each year is non-guaranteed which means oh man at this time i'm young i I'm young, I tear meniscus. Oh, not guaranteed.
Woo, woo, woo. I'm in a hole three million.
So when Daryl trades me, come on, man. Yeah.
You know? There's history there. I already know what the fuck going on.
My fuck assigned me to a three-year 1.2. Right.
Right. Non-guaranteed.
Is that why you competed so hard at the skills challenge? You're like, I need every dollar to go pay me.

Everything.

So, yeah, I mean, my mindset was very different going there.

It's also a testament to, like, your love for basketball.

I saw you said, I think on your podcast,

that what, 50% of the NBA are guys that don't love basketball?

Yeah, don't love it.

Now, I assume that's all big guys, or a lot of it is big guys,

because I always just assume any big guy, any seven-footer is like, well well i have to play basketball because i'm seven feet but this fucking sucks physically so let's raise that number to 70 yeah 70 of the big guys because is that right like big guys like i mean it just sucks being seven feet and then you yeah it's a run around like it's forced upon you yeah right you're like oh i guess i gotta play basketball or the guy who you see at the club just like hey bro what the bro, what the fuck you doing here, bro? You're supposed to be hooping. Yeah, you can't.
If you're above 6'10", and you didn't play basketball, your life sucks. Because everyone's like, where'd you play ball? Like, nowhere.
You tore some shit? No, bro, I'm just tall. I just love selling insurance.
So what's the difference? Like, when you're saying, like, someone who loves basketball versus doesn't, but they're in the NBA, it's just how can you tell that it's not a love, but they're in the NBA. They're incredible at basketball.
So I get on the bench and I say some shit like, okay, cool. I told B's yesterday, the Bulls, what they like to take away.
He the paint. Obviously, every team likes to take away the paint.
But what do the Bulls like taking don't know I corner threes right so why are you putting yourself in a corner right be the guy who wants to get the shot you're literally in a three point contest right everybody on the bench look like damn he right even the coaches behind me look like damn he right people don't think that deep into the game. Right.
I see something that's not working.

I don't like this lineup, coach.

We need more rim protection.

We got to go taller with this lineup, especially in the second unit.

We got to fix that.

You know what I'm saying?

Some coaches don't see it.

Hey, Doc, what's the play we ran two games ago, man?

That shit worked right here.

I just got a different feel about it. But I'm the same kid who, you know, in those Houston days,

I find out in the playoffs that I'm starting, I pull car over I call mom we cry yeah like like I'm a starting point guard in NBA right you know you gotta think this is my first year ever coming off the bench right a decade starter right on every team I've been on yeah come to the Bulls hey Billy Donovan yeah I don't know how I'm gonna play you I'm I mean the best guy I love Billy I don't know I'm gonna play you you know I don't know what your role would be after the first practice yeah I'm gonna start you tomorrow you know I'm saying so like so so for me the the appreciation of the basketball is much different than a lot of people yeah I would say so I mean you the story of from college to overseas to getting cut going back overseas back, back to Houston. And then when you get that first contract, I would imagine that that was probably a pretty emotional moment for you.
Yeah. When you get some serious long-term financial stability.
Were you expecting that? Was that something that you knew was in the works and when it happened? Yeah. Was there a moment where you're like, fuck, this is awesome? No, I really thought I took a pay cut.
I really thought they kind of got me on a steal. But I'm in a position, again, I'm working with Derrick Warren.
I'm in a position where I really can't argue. Right.
I don't really know the ins and outs of everything. I know they offered me $24 million, all guaranteed.
I'll take it now yeah sign right now

expeditiously

yeah

please

I mean if you don't have

Russians to owe

straight up

I gotta pay these folks back

they owe my ass

that's like the plot of training day

like that fucked

right

you feel what I'm saying

like and then if you don't have

pen like

you have anything sharp

so I can cut my finger

and sign it in blood

I want it now

how did

the first paycheck

was that direct deposit

so I did some wild shit

my first check was like

I wanted like

half a million dollars

Let's see. now how did the first paycheck was that direct deposit uh so i did some wild shit my first check was like uh i wanted like half a million dollars up front uh-huh in advance yeah cash in july was my birthday july 12th so yeah july 1st hit that motherfucker hit that i damn called my mom you see that shit i just did a push-up right like Hell yeah.
So, I got that. I was able to take care of my mom, get a nice crib.
But, you know, in NBA, you know, if you're not financially, literally, like, you know, your mindset, right? And I went through that shit. Yeah.
A lot of guys, yeah. All sports.
First paycheck, what? Six million dollars a year? It's hard. It's hard.
So, yeah, I had fun. But my big one, I signed the 40 ball, then turned around, signed the 13 million.
Yeah, I've been doing well. Have you had coaches that are like, hey, Pat, just chill out when you're trying to tell them what you were just saying.
Like, hey, our second team is too short or, you know, we got to do this different. Are there any coaches? Me and Doc in the beginning.
Relax. Me and Doc in the beginning.
Really? Right. But then over the time he's saying like my commitment to the game, my love for the game, me wanting to always be a student of the game, always asking questions.
Now, he gets me now. Yeah.
Now it's like oh yeah. An extra coach on the floor is like that.
Yeah. Let Pat do his thing.
You have to like build a certain level of trust level of trust with you. If he's saying this stuff, he's probably right.
So let him say it. Doc can say this shit like, did you just shut the fuck up? I say some shit like, how long you been waiting to get that off your chest? You know what I'm saying? But now, he literally, Pat, take the room.
You know what I'm saying? At first, when you're around me, my approach and the way I talk it seems like who's this fucking asshole then once you see it consistently you see it every day and it's like damn that's really impressive now how because you've been on so many teams you've been traded a bunch and around everywhere you have been on a lot of teams what I'm going to say is a compliment. To be a teammate that everyone loves, almost instantly, how do you do that? Because you walk into a locker room.
It's a bunch of guys that have been together for a while and you're the new guy. But it seems like everywhere...
I saw it last year with the Bulls. It's instant.
Pat Pev is the culture. What you see on TV, and this is prior me having podcasts, right? So you have to take what you see on TV and form your opinion about Pat Biff, right? Because I have no other outlets where I'm giving people.
I'm on Instagram, but I'm not on Instagram. Like I'm not doing my everyday.
I'm posting some little cool shit, maybe a flight, a jet, you know, whatever bullshit people post. But once you get me there, obviously you see.
But now I have my podcast, everyone sees a whole different perspective. It's like they look at me and say, man, I didn't know you could, what, be smart, talk, have a vocabulary, get my point across without cursing or saying it inward or being disrespectful.
Like, a good human. Yeah.
I open the door for everyone. I please and thank you everywhere.
But you didn't know I was a, you know. No, I can say that personally.
Yeah. You know, we've known each other now for a year since you come to Barstool.
Actually, what is it, two years now? No, a year and a half. Yeah.
Like, you can tell right away when you're with a professional athlete, you can almost tell instantly. Like, this guy, obviously, he's thinking himself on a different level, and he's, like, kind of removed himself from the regular people.
Not me. Never got that vibe from you.
You are as much of a culture to Barstool as you are to your NBA team. Straight up.
And it's like that, it's just instant where you're like, Pat Pev's just a real dude. Yeah, and that's the approach I come.
So, like, I'm in the locker room. You know, I go through a shoot around.
A guy might miss an assignment. I go coach.
That shit was wrong. He what? I rep it again.
That shit was wrong. Don't feel right.
Rep it again. Like, you don't want to be great? We all out here.
It's a competitive sport. Let's be great.
We do some shit wrong.

Let's rep that shit again until we do it right.

And then the coaches see that.

They see it for a week.

They see it for two weeks.

They see it for a month.

They see it for two months.

They see it for four months.

I got coaches on the 76ers who go to me who was like, man, I didn't know shit about you.

But, man, literally the best I've ever seen in my life.

You do this every day.

Every day. I don't drag into practice.
I take care of my body. You know, I got my training staff.
You know, it's me on the court and Tyrese Maxey. Right.
Like the 35-year-old and the future, you know. Yeah.
Like, yeah, I don't miss days. I don't, you know what I'm saying, I don't cheat the games, which is probably why I've been so successful.
Yeah. I think it's because you care, too.
Like, it's obvious that you don't – same thing with your podcast. And when you do – if you walk into a new locker room, it's obvious that you care about what you're doing.
You see the fieriness on the court, but there's a lot of care that goes into it behind the scenes. It's like you're doing all these small things correct.
And no matter what organization you're with, somebody sees something like that and you're like, I want to be on that guy's side because that guy is going to bring the best out of me. You got to think, like, so I leave these organizations and they get, like, you got to think I leave the Rockets.
They got Chris Paul. Yeah.
Right? Traffic Cone. I leave, right? I leave the Clippers.
I go Clippers to, where the fuck I go out to Clippers? Minnesota? Clippers, Minnesota, right? I think so. Fucking got Rudy Gobert.
Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Out the Minnesota trade.
So like not only are these teams, like they know my value because they're trading other ad sets according to my value. Right.
You know what I'm saying? But I don't get the money. Campaign is an awesome player.
Yeah, but the 14-year-old guy. He's going to be elite.
He might be the best. He literally might be a the best I'm going to put a bet on whoever that guy is To win MVP at some point in his future You might be coaching him Imagine I'm going to look up the year of that pick You asked us before we sat down To ask you some hard questions So here's a good question That we've talked about a lot But y'all been kissing me on the neck since I've been here.
What happened in the tunnels?

What happened in the tunnels?

What happened in the tunnels?

What happened in the tunnels?

In LA, Clippers, Blake Griffin.

Yeah.

Tunnel.

Oh, yeah. Blake's our guy, by the way.

Yeah, we love Blake.

If you say anything bad about Blake, the podcast's over.

So tell us who was going in these tunnels to trump people.

Yeah, you're thinking about it now.

Who was sneaking up on people?

Were you guys ready for them?

How'd that go? So we in locker room. Fuck was the rocket game right yeah yeah and uh good friend good friend of mine good great friend of mine trevor reza i think awesome was saying something to trevor and i think trevor was like something little rivers right I got him agitated I think he said something I think Trevor T.A.
was the first by the door I go to T.A. like I said you know me I'm the first and no and these all my guys I used to play with literally six months ago.

Right.

So I go, no, man, come on, man.

We ain't about to do this right here.

But it was just arguing.

Blake came and DeAndre came.

I was the first there, though.

Yeah.

And my locker was across.

So Blake was the one who basically.

He was the second one there.

Yeah, but everyone saw Blake and they're like, oh, we don't want any smoke.

Yeah.

That's how we're going to say it.

I'll say less.

Yeah, yeah, okay.

All right, that's perfect.

What about. But no, no fight, no none of that.
You you know it's just it's good to hear you know yeah yeah it sounded like there was like a game of thrones battle that hell no that shit didn't even get and then it got to a point where security's hopped in front right one security is pulling the door the other guy's security on the back of it like this like come on y'all okay so another tough't have to do it like this. Okay, so another tough question.
Where is the beef with Chris Paul right now? When you see him, is there any, do you guys even talk? No. Yeah, nothing.
No. Nothing said.
No. So it's just you stay over there, I stay over here? Yeah, when we see each other, it's on, from my side.
That's what I think. But I think like that about everybody, but him, for sure.
Did he have anyone reach out to you after you went on, like, was it you went on first take? Or no, was it get up? And you were calling him a traffic cone? Yeah. You went on a tour that week and just fucking ripped everyone.
It was awesome. Yeah, but I wasn't talking about basketball.
Yeah. You know, we were talking about basketball.
And. I was just like, I don't know.
The guy who beat him for the Bulls was the new guy that got the shooter. Beat him.
B-I-T-M. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, Cone. Yeah.
But you got to think, I'm also the same guy. Cone.
Right. I'm also the same guy.
When Coach writes up on a board, writes up on a board uh he's a cone coach put cone right next to his name so now when guys see it instead of trying to you know uh because all NBA guys don't love it so if they don't love it then their their mind isn't as sharp and isn't smarter yeah they're mad they're playing mad okay so now you see it you see a guy who you put a red mark to who can't shoot free throws. When he gets the ball down low, you foul him.
Yeah. Okay, cool.
I seen red. Red means can't shoot free throws.
Alright, coach, fuck that red. You see green.
Green means he can't shoot. I mean, okay, cool.
I motherfuckin' shoot. You put cone or he can't guard.
So now when I see him, everybody attack him. Yeah.
So it's like a game plan. Yeah.
That's all I was saying. That was the cone thing.
That was the game plan. So if you're in an opposing locker room, what's next to Pat Bev's name? Is it let him shoot? Let him shoot.
Go ahead, he'll miss him. Yeah, let him shoot.
Maybe put the center on him. But I know that.
Yeah, center, drop coverage, no problem. Yeah, cool.
Send him to his left hand but yeah let him shoot you can't shoot but not a cone but not fuck not a cone definitely not a cone no yeah that's a traffic stop yeah but they they probably hit me with the uh let him let him shoot but close out in corners okay shit like that yeah yeah yeah yeah because they like to keep the exact stats yeah yeah what about what about the beef with uh with russ where's that at do you trick us pep pep trick y'all are we tricked uh i mean i've done it i got three awards yeah and what'd you call him that you said he's the magician yeah right that was funny that time yeah so look so man you know what r, after being on the same team as Russ, I'm talking about Russ breaks hand yesterday. Sick story.
Russ breaks hand yesterday. I text Russ.
121 in the morning. Damn, what's up? You running away from me? You ducking me? You going to break your hand? We know we play y'all next.
You know we play y'all next. Yeah.
What's up? Seems like he's ducking you. Come on, man.
Get your fucking hand fixed. That's wrong.
Don't break your hand We know We play y'all next You know we play y'all next Yeah What's up Seems like he's ducking you Come on man Get your fucking hand fixed That's wrong Don't break your hand Right You know what I'm saying Like you know what the fuck He's responding back Like man fuck you man Hell no Thanks gang So it's always love Yeah Shout out to Russ Yeah Alright what about LeBron as a teammate Great Yeah He was great Is there any truth to It's a little difficult to be lebron's teammate not on the court because obviously he's you know one of the best basketball players of all time he's probably the second best basketball player of all time but is there anything to be said for when you're on lebron's team if you lose it's all his teammates if you win it's lebron that's the right that's the air above it all

yeah but

nah If you win, it's LeBron. That's the air above it all.

Yeah.

But, no, I just think that team we was on, man,

we could have won a ton of games.

We played it wrong.

Yeah.

We just played it wrong.

And it happens.

It happens.

Could have, would have, should have been in teams.

Damn, we should have won a championship with the White Howard and James Harden.

Yeah, Jokic kind of carved you guys up.

You know what I'm saying?

We played it wrong.

Yeah.

We played it wrong.

We played it wrong.

We played it completely wrong.

So we just played that team wrong.

That's all.

We had guys that was on the bench that should have been starting,

guys that were starting that should have been on the bench.

You know, like, you know, it just wasn't right.

But, you know, as a coach, you live and you learn,

and as players, you live and you learn too.

Yeah, he was phenomenal.

Yeah.

But you got to think, I know LeBron since I'm with Miami Heat. Right.
You know, like I get a call from Bron Guy like, man, listen, man, I think you should hit Bron up, man. He'd be a great mentor.
I'm like, okay, send me his number. Yeah, right.
Like, oh, okay, I'll just hit Bron up. You know, so now remember, I'm taking my trainer at the time.
I don't know. I'm 21, 22.
I'm taking my trainer at the time to the airport. On the way back, I called Bron.
I'm like, hey, man, this is Pat Bev, man. I'm reaching out.
Shout out to Ramos. Shout out to the four horsemen.
One is guys, Ramos, older guy, who kind of put it all together, gave his number. He, LeBron, man, I got your number from Ramos.
Whatever you have for me, bro, I want. Be a better person, a better man, a better athlete, like everything.
Everything. Like I want to go under your wing.
I want you to show me the way, bro. Every single day of every minute of the day I was with LeBron James.
He showed me the blueprint. That's sick.
All right, so. He showed me how to do everything the right way.
We went out together. He showed me how to, okay, cool.
Be different. That was his whole thing with me.
Be different. Guys sit on the back of the bus.
You don't have to sit on the back of the bus. Right? Be different.
Young guys, they want to laugh and goof around be serious and be serious about your craft yeah all that that foundation he gave me with the miami heat it's probably why i'm sustainable now as we progress through the season every fan knows that big wins are hard to come by and tough losses are even harder to accept but you know what isn't hard to accept discover believe it or, Discover is accepted at 99% of places that take credit cards nationwide. You heard that right, 99%.
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LeBron's actually not that special because we kind of called it. Like we said that he was going to be incredible.
He just kind of lived up to his expectations. Damn, that's a go.
Yeah. I mean, really, every time LeBron scores a point, it's like that's a check mark in the column of the media.
Yeah, he was the chosen one. He was on his high school

games, we're on ESPN, he was on cover

Sports Illustrated. He didn't do anything that we

predicted it. We were right.

Man, a homie's to say, he's been

playing high level

basketball at this level

since he was a sophomore. It's nuts.

It is nuts. It is crazy.

Longevity is insane. And people still don't like

you're going to appreciate him when he's gone.

Yeah. Yeah.
No, I mean

I've never, yeah, I mean, watching him play basketball is insane. He's windmill and dunking opposite hand.
He's 40 years old. Yeah.
That's crazy. He's 39 because we're the same age as him.
So don't do that. He tries to do that to us.
He calls us 40. We're not 40 yet.
Oh, he calls you and him for us. Hank calls us 40.
Us and you and LeBron. I think LeBron is a month older than us, so we're basically contemporaries.
But always anytime he accomplishes something, I'm like, I still got time left because he's only a month older than I am. I'll make up for that.
Kick it into gear. He's great.
And that's it. Yeah.
But we did say he was going to we did. Kind of credit to us, too.
Yeah, true. So if he's the unquestioned leader of that team, but you also, you're not afraid to have your voice be heard.
Yeah. You're not afraid to point things out.
Was there ever a situation where it's like, okay, you're taking up a big leadership role in Los Angeles, and then it's LeBron's team, and you guys have to sort out like, hey, Pat Bev, let me handle this. You handle that.
No. Anything like that? Uh-uh.
You know, he's too bad. He ain't really, he really like, his leadership come with the way he takes care of his body and how he plays.
You know, like, I'm going to lead by actions. I ain't got time for all that shit.
Yeah. Yeah.
I'm going to here. You feel me? If my team need to be talked to, I'm going to be the first motherfucker to say something.
I'm going to be the first motherfucker in the gym. I'm going to be the last motherfucker in the gym.
And I'm going to produce every single night on a fucking basketball court to a point where it's like, damn, I'm going to dunk on you. I'm going to hit your clutch free throws.
I'm going to always the right play I'm going to do everything right Yeah There was a play that you had this year that was maybe my favorite play recently in the NBA The game ends and you sprint to the locker room and grab your phone and immediately send a tweet I thought you like that? It was last week, right? Which one?

The buzzer sounds, and you ran to the locker room,

and you fired off a tweet within, like, I want to say a minute, 30 seconds.

No, no, no, no.

You have to understand.

I have the tweet wrote, depending on how high of time it is.

Okay.

Oh, you draft it?

Yeah, I'm just chilling.

Like, okay, cool.

Just looking like this.

Because I really want to literally, I want the fans to see, damn, the game just ended, how the fuck? You know, like I want them to have that reaction. Yeah.
Man, that shit is fired up. So what do you write at halftime? Like let's say you're losing five points, what do you do? No, belt to ass is always up.
Okay. Always up.
It's either if I should add, oh, came up short or, okay, yeah, fuck y'all, belt to ass. Yeah, so yeah, my shit, i'm locked in i love that how did you start with the uh the belt to ass world tour i don't know i think it was uh i think we got the career one day what was it yeah the pod yeah that's exactly what it was yeah we was doing the pod shout out to the pat bill pod Pat Bill pod with my man Ron.
And we just kept saying, we just kept saying like, man, belt to ass, belt to ass. And it became like a thing.
And I'm like, cool. I like Barstool.
Love Barstool. Let's see if we can do the merch.
Merch came out to be cool. Boom.
Like, people love it. Mom hits me like, fuck that, put tour dates on them.
Oh, okay. Real rock star shit.
Okay, love it mom hits me like fuck that put tour dates on them real rock star shit okay love it see her yesterday at the bulls game she got on belt ass t-shirt right she's on tour with me you know we making it a whole thing we're making okay we got our band members we made it okay he's our leading singer he's you know at the point we was talking about joel he's david ruffin he doesn't have to come to practice all the time. He doesn't have to come to record, you know.
No, he's David Ruffin. So we just kind of played on with that shit, and next thing you know, it became everybody's sound.
I mean, every arena I go, Belta! It's quiet. It's crazy.
It's awesome. But I thank you guys, though.
You got to understand, like, none of this is happening unless Barstool gives me a platform, right? Obviously, I had to mature in that role, and it didn't take that long, but it took, I don't know, two, three months for me to kind of like, okay, cool. This is what the fuck's going on.
Let me embrace it. But if it weren't for Barstool, you got to think, if it weren't for Barstool, a lot of people wouldn't even see this perspective of an NBA player.
Yeah. Like, what we're giving to the NBA is NBA is like literally gold.
Yeah. Literally gold.
It is. Every clip I see is just.
Literally gold. It's incredible.
I think a lot of players, they think to themselves like, I want to do a podcast. Doing a podcast sounds fun.
No. But once they start doing it, they're like, oh shit, this is hard work.
Ran out of story. But you like.
Yeah. It's clear that you love doing it.
Yeah. I have endless stories.
Yeah. And I'm great at telling them.
Yeah. You know, I've been through so much shit.
You got to think, like, I go from, you know, selling nickels and dimes on the block to burying my cousin to, you know, talking to my girlfriend about meetings with billionaires. Right.
You know, so like, my spectrum is, it isn't like this. My shit's from like this to this.
It's the whole fucking world. So I could talk about a homie getting shot 14 times, coming up to a lady, coming up to a lady door, asking for help.
Please, lady, please help me, help me, help me. Lady sees him pass out, right? Damn, I don't know if I'm going to die now.
And I can, I know how it is, it's baby. How do you, what's that caviar I like? You know, why I'm in the bees on a boat? You know what I'm saying? So like my shit is different.
I understand what baby mama's is. I understand what being the ultimate father is too.
You know? So I've seen everything. I've seen everything and I still got so much more to see.
That's why the stories are really endless. Endless.
Well, so I think a lot of the success of the pod, and you just alluded to it, was maybe the first few months trying to feel it out. But you embracing Barstool is a big part of it because I think we've tried it with other athletes, other people from outside the Barstool world, and it sometimes doesn't work because the guy doesn't buy in or the woman doesn't buy in all the way.
You've bought in all the way. So I got a question about that.
The 41 free throws. So for anyone who didn't see it, I think everyone did, but we had to shoot.
We had to make 41 free throws in a row. We weren't going to leave the gym until we finished.
It took us 16 hours. Pat Bev showed up after a game, drove from Milwaukee to Chicago after a game.
He showed up at like 2 in the morning. What was going through your mind when you saw the scene of us just standing around like dejected trying to shoot free throws? Like these guys are fucking stupid and they're crazy and what the hell is going on? I didn't think about that at all.
I thought it was genius. I honestly thought like damn, man, like that last shit they got is fire.
Finish game, I think you texted me. Yeah, I was texting you because you were like, I was like, listen, I didn't want to be pushy.
I was like, we're going to still be going at midnight when the game's done. So, right, so I'm currently reading a book.
It's The Tool of Titans, right? And it's the way the book is formatted. You don't have to read it in a specific way.
You can flip page, whatever page you land on, you can start reading it. Our first page I flip, it says, Greatness equals the ability to fall in love with the work.
I like that. Right? Yeah.
That's all greatness is. Not only going to work, like, man, I got to go to work.
Like, come on, shit, let me go to work. Like, actually loving your job.
Yeah. And the person that gave me the book was like, you're going to see some shit in this book about you that, you know, that you already do.
Right. So when it comes to job, basketball, first year, last year, I watched film every fucking game.
I watched film with practice. Now when I have another job, when it comes to barstool, you know, this is my job.
I'm going to fall in love with this my job I'm gonna fall in love with this shit I'm gonna come in New York and I'm gonna bring pieces and people might think that oh he's trying to get no I'm not I'm just a great fucking worker I love my job these people took a chance on me when nobody had ever seen me these people gave me a platform when no one else wanted to give it to me when they tried to shut me up call me dumb call me silly try to paint the nigga role right on top of my head. Straight up.
So no, I'm going to be a great worker. I'm going to be here.
My squad needs me. Straight up.
My boss man is actually texting me. I'm a smart individual.
What the fuck? He never texts me. Just because he texts me, I'm on my way.
Great fucking work. The vibes change everything.
Now the other question I have about it is, did you think we were ever going to get out of that gym? No. Because when you left.
I felt bad, bro. When you left, and I think everybody in the gym understood that you had to go.
You have very important. You had a back-to-back.
Dave was hot. You had a back-to-back.
Dave was hiding. He was hiding.
He was hiding. But the swing, the momentum swing that we had when you left and we still haven't done it, and we're like, wait, we still haven't done NBA player just had to leave we're never going to have another meal again we're just going to be we're going to die in this gym listen you have to understand we leave go to sleep I got my producers with me I wake up 430 in the morning did they they do it? He watching the heat.

No, not yet.

Oh, it got dark when he left.

It got real bad.

You know what I'm saying?

Then I wake up.

Okay, cool.

Did they do the heat?

They did it.

They did it?

You know what I'm saying?

So like as a worker, being part of it, being part of the crew,

hell yeah, we fucking did that shit.

You're on the shirt.

Yeah.

I'm at the end, but I'm on the shirt.

Yeah.

You're on the shirt.

Do you have one?

I think we have some here. I'm going to take so there uh yeah there was a moment where i left at seven in the morning go take my son to school yeah see i didn't see i heard about that yeah so i went to take my i was like i'll be back in 35 minutes gotta take him to school and i was driving my son to school and i was talking to him like i was going to war i was like i love you so much i don't know when we're gonna be able to see each other again like i thought i was gonna just never see him again and he was like what are you talking about i'm just going to school relax and then we got back and we did it and it was y'all did that moment ever y'all did that shit it was fucking incredible i didn't see i actually i i seen because y'all switched up the the the way of shooting because i'm like man cat i think you had you might have to shoot some Yeah.
So when did the mulligan, when did you guys do mulligan? So we had two things happen. One was we got a kid from, not a kid, he's a grown man.
What's his name? Scott Morris. Scott Morris.
He played at University of New Hampshire. For sure he can shoot.
He shot 14 free throws in his entire college career. So he shows up and we're like, uh-oh.
He's like, no, no, no. I shot 14 free throws because my coach was like, you can't dribble.
You can't do anything. You can shoot.
So he just stood out on the three-point line and just hit shots. He was incredible.
So he came. That was huge.
He was just hitting everything. I think he missed like one free throw out of like 200.
He was insane. Damn.
So he came. I went to take my son to school.
We used the mulligan on 15. Dave hit 30.
I showed up from taking my son to school, and it was me. It was 39-40.
And I was like, God fucking damn it. Like, I'm going to ruin this.
Like, everyone's going to want to kill me. No, I didn't worry about you.
And then I hit 39-40, then Dave hit 41, and it was. It's okay, the Mulligan's 50, okay.
Yeah, and that guy, Scott Morris, like, he was so good, and he saved our lives. Like, we would have been fucked without him.
That's fine. I was never worried about you.
Because I said when I was shooting on like Catmint, you might got to shoot some more, bro. But it started, my legs started, I think I took like 1,600 free throws.
How did you feel afterwards? So the problem was I had a trip to Cabo on Wednesday. Yeah, you told me.
Right, right, right. And I was like, this is going to be the worst divorce of all time, having to write, like, why did you get divorced? I had to finish 41 free throws, and I couldn't go to Cabo.
Oh, my goodness. I got to Cabo, and I went to bed for like eight more hours.
We literally showed up, and I just went right to bed. Bravo.
I was fucking dead. Worth it.
But yeah, worth it. I felt so bad for Titus at the end of it because Titus, he was in the role of no matter what we need from Titus, he'll step up and hit him.
Yeah. And so the expectation was he would make 10 in a row every single time.
He's a good foul shooter, right? I think he ended up shooting like 93%. 93.
Literally, that percentage would be better everybody in the NBA. Dude, the other day we were just fucking around and he's like,, let me see if I can hit 41 in a row.
No problem. Hit 41 in a row.
But after 16 hours of doing it, and your eyes start to go, your brain starts to go, and now we're just like, oh, Titus is up. He's good.
Don't worry about it. And then he'll make 9 out of 10, and everybody will be super disappointed.
What the fuck, Titus? Yeah, and he's squashed with Titus. Yeah.
Right? Yeah, we did. You have respect for him now.
I saw him looking. Motherfucker at the free throw line.
Titus. I look.
Everybody else jerseys. Make sure.
That's that motherfucker right there, huh? I seen him. Cool looking dude.
You got to understand from our perspective, because this is Barstool. We're all a bunch of out of shape, middle-aged bloggers, podcasters.
When we get one the in the building we talk them up so we're like we got mark titus yeah i can tell and then if you're that athlete you carried it on you yeah yeah i'm fucking mark titus watch out right right right pat bale walks in like yeah i'm not because we play fives on on on friday yeah we play fives on friday afternoon he'll play with us us, and he'll just go half speed and just hit threes in everyone's face being like,

you guys suck.

I'm like, fuck you guys.

I told you I was on my Pat Bev stuff on Friday.

I'm guarding Mark Titus.

I like that.

I was telling your producer.

I was yelling out what his defensive assignment was.

I'm on my Pat Bev stuff.

I was.

Like, let him shoot.

Let him shoot.

Love that.

But all right.

So all right, I got a couple other hard questions. Come on.
I'm waiting on it. Let's go.
Kevin Durant. KD.
Is he online too much? No. Okay.
I like it. We've gone the whole spectrum from KD.
We've had some moments where we've maybe said some things, but I've come back to respect him just because I actually appreciate that he's online as much as he is, and he mixes it up with people. I don't like when people don't get in the weeds

and don't mix it up and don't reply to people.

That means that you're out of touch and you don't

want to get down there with people.

He's an interesting guy

though. Are you friends with him?

So you got me and KD. We first

started playing. I think he was at the University of Texas

and I was at Arkansas. Obviously

a huge rivalry

that I don't know about. And that's when we first, you know, we first started playing from there.
Yeah. And he's, I mean, he's one of the best all time.
I like the fact that he is online, though. I think that every, it's a good, healthy outlet because people are talking about him day in, day out.
Especially him, too. Right? Like, easy sniper.
Like, sick fucking name. Yeah.
You know what I'm saying? Like, fuck that, I'll go, go to this team win championship up fuck that i'll leave here go that like you know i'm saying the dark horse but you need them yeah everyone in the league is afraid of them yeah you know i'm saying like oh man kd like yeah you know i sell i sell i sell the the highest shoes yeah i'm 6 11 i'm gonna get your ass buckets anytime there's nothing you can do right i'm a killer everyone on everyone in the league knows it. Yeah, I'm 6'11".
I'm going to get your ass buckets anytime. There's nothing you can do.
Right? I'm a killer. Everyone in the league knows it.
Yeah. You said everyone in the league is afraid of him.
Are you afraid of him? No. Uh-uh.
When I mean afraid of like, okay, cool, man. I got KD.
I got KD tomorrow. Let me go ahead and get my rest.
Yeah. You're not afraid of anybody.
Yeah, but if I got KD, I'm going to get my rest. Yeah.
You know what I'm saying? I ain't going to have a good time. What about Luka? Are you afraid of Luka? No, I'm gonna get my rest, though.
Yeah. I'm gonna get my rest.
Do you think that the NBA is a little too much like... The league has changed a lot.
Obviously, offense is insane right now. But is there times when it bothers you when, like, team basketball is a little bit...
It's not in the league as much as it used to be. It's a lot of one-on-one.
Like, Luka will have the ball for an insane amount of time. Some of these guys will just basically feel like they're playing one-on-one and there's four guys just standing around ready to shoot threes.
Yeah, I don't think like student of the game, I don't think that's the issue, right? The issue is the fans. right obviously I'm online all the time you know yeah man Luca man gave you 50 obviously he shot the ball 30 times he has the ball literally every fucking possession of the game I gotta share my possessions I got 8 fucking attempts every fucking game and that's on a great day this motherfucker got unlimited attempts he should give me 50 motherfucker got the ball all the time yeah that's when you get kind of like you know with the fans but as a basketball player you also know that okay cool luka has the ball all the time because this team needs him to have the ball right it made the team so he can have the ball all the time so you know i'm i'm convinced i'm you know half and half is it is it hard though uh being a teammate like on a team like that like your teammates with james, when a guy has the ball all the time, is it harder to get into a rhythm when the ball's not being spread around? Hell no.
Okay. So we create this thing called guard to guard screens.
I'm a student of the game. I know.
Okay, cool. If I'm about to play a team, if I'm a coach, I'm going to put my weakest defender on who? Patrick Beverly.
All right, cool. All right, hey, James, let's do this.
I'm going to come set a screen for you. And I'm going to just, either I'm going to roll, I'm going to literally go be the center.
Right. I'm going to roll or I'm going to pop four three.
And I found ways to get me the ball. They don't want to switch that.
Now they double-taining. I'm in the park.
I get to shoot my floater. Okay, cool.
Now I have to work on my floater. I'm skilled here and I have to work on my corner three.
Okay, James, when you drive left, I'm going to be in the right wing. I'm not going to move.
You can throw that bitch blind. I'm going to be there.
So now I have these, okay, cool, these, okay, mental notes in my head, you know, how the game is being played. You know, I take that, and I go with Kawhi, and I go with Paul George, and I learn a little bit more, and I take that, and I go with a younger team, Carl Anthony Towns, Anthony let me teach you this.
And I'll take that and go with LeBron. Okay, this is easy.
I've been down here before. So that's why it's so easy for me playing with all these superstars.
By the way, we had your back when you acted like you won the championship after the play-in game. We had your back in the moment.
You weren't even a co-worker at that time. We were like, fuck that.
It's sports. Celebrate.
I was so hyped. You got to think.
I come in locker room. Fuck locker room.
I get traded to people to understand. I go Clippers to Memphis.
I go Clippers to Memphis Grizzlies. I'm talking to the GM in Memphis.
Yeah, we'll bring you the training camp. We'll see what happens from there.
All right, training camp? Motherfucker, I'm supposed to be starting next to Ja. You're talking about training camp.
Get me out this fucking team. I don't want to be here no more.
Right? So that's how I go to Minnesota. I get to Minnesota.
Yeah, man, that's raw. Man, I like this team, man.
We about to go to the fucking playoffs. Guy on the team goes, playoffs, Pat? We won 12 games last year.
Shut up. Lock in.
Going to the motherfucking playoff, right? And to build that, to put work in that bitch and to, you know, Pat, man, you going to Minnesota, bro, you know what happens out in Minnesota. I what? Hey, it's over with.
Like, that's what people go to die. They go to Minnesota, end of the career, whatever, bye-bye.
Nah, this is a joke. Build, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill.
Get confidence. Get confidence.
Win some games. We won 52 fucking games that year.
Yeah, it's a fun team. You have people gluing their hands to the court.
You know what I'm saying? It's crazy. Yeah, it's a wild atmosphere.
Got a contract extension, middle of the fucking season. It's wild.
Yeah, so out of all those teammates you just mentioned, any others that you've ever played with,

who are your favorite teammates?

Favorite teammates.

I assume that a lot of people would say their favorite teammate was Pat Pev.

Yeah.

Who's Pat Pev's favorite teammate?

So I'm not saying this because he's my teammate now.

McGowan Ari.

Okay.

Right.

Trevor Ariza.

Okay.

James Harden. Okay.
James Harden.

Okay.

Ryan Anderson.

Big Zubak.

Kawhi Leonard.

PG.

Right.

Anthony Edwards.

Carl Anthony.

Like every team.

So I wanted to do this with you because I saw you did this with Richard Jefferson.

You didn't say Mantis.

Mantis. Yeah.
He's a teammate of yours. One day.
I heard he's not with Barstow. He's not a teammate.
He was a teammate. Oh, for one day.
He got a one-day contract. Oh, okay.
So he was. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, I'll give him that. Yeah, it's win.
It's win. I saw you did this with Richard Jefferson.
It was great. Can we go draft me and you for your – like draft the best team of Pat Betts? How about we do that? ESPN comes the next day and redoes it and does show us no more.
They always do that. The guy from who did our game yesterday, he goes, yeah, man, I love your material.
I might steal it a couple times, but, you know, I always give you a shout out on the pod. Like, damn.
This is why you're perfect for Barstool because this is the story of this company is where, like, I'm convinced Fox, ESPN, all these places. Stealing.
They have a meeting where they're like what did Barstool do yesterday yeah okay yeah let's put that on there yeah yeah right 100% yeah 100% all right so so let's go let's draft starting five I'm not on first I'm not on you're not on it okay I mean this ain't gonna be hard Joel Embiid at the five okay I'll take Yoke at the five so and 5. So Embiid, or sorry, I'll take Giannis at the 5.

Okay.

I'm going to go.

You didn't play with Jokic.

I was thinking Embiid because Embiid always ducks Jokic, which is a fact.

Yeah.

Remember that when he played in Denver?

Yeah.

No, Embiid doesn't play in Denver.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. He just gave him 40 in Philly, though, two weeks before.

Yeah, because you played with Embiid.

He was probably like, look at the schedule.

We're playing the Nuggets.

I'm going to be mysteriously gone, right?

No.

Yeah.

That's what we heard.

He was hurt.

So I got Giannis.

You got Embiid.

Embiid.

I got LeBron James.

Okay.

Good pick.

That's a decent pick.

I'll take Anthony Davis.

Cool.

I'll go James Harden.

Okay.

I'll go Kawhi Leonard.

Okay. I'll take Anthony Davis.
Cool. I'll go James Harden.
Okay. I'll go Kawhi Leonard.
Okay. I'll go Anthony Edwards.
Yeah, he was on my list. I'll go Dame.
I'll go. Oh, I actually have this one.
No, you don't. I have this one.
Unless he does it, I have this one. No, you don't.
I do. I have this one.
You don't. Yep.
I have this one. You don't.
You ain't going to like this one, though. Okay.
Shea Gilders. Oh, that was what I was going to pick.
That was how I was going to win. I swear to God, he was my first pick at point guard.
I'm just going to get. And the hat always is, though.
I'm going to get one pick. I'll take Tyrese Maxey.
So, we'll put those up. I'm just going to put up an email.
I mean, Giannis and Anthony Davis, how are you stopping that? That's cool. You're scoring 80 points.
You hear my team. You hear my team? I have Kawhi, Anthony Davis, and Giannis.
You will literally not score. I have James Harden.
No, I have Anthony Edwards. No, no, I said I have Giannis, Anthony Davis.

Anthony Davis.

Anthony Davis and Kawhi.

You're not scoring.

And then Dame will just give you 50.

I have Joel Embiid.

Yeah, okay, no problem.

Giannis will eat his fucking lunch.

I have Shea Gilders-Alexander. That one hurts a little, but Tyrese Maxey's next up.

You're actually looking at the James Hardeners now.

Yeah, oh yeah, no.

And you have to play me in the playoffs. So we know how that goes.
Fair point. Fair point.
We'll put those up. You played with some fucking awesome players.
Everybody. It's crazy.
Everybody. Yeah.
Still on the list is Blake Griffin, Cat, Dwight Howard. Dwight.
Damar. Damar.
Debo. Yeah.
Some good fucking players. Great players.
Yeah. Zach Levine on that list.
Yeah. Alex Caruso on that list.
Yeah. Fuck yeah, he's on that list.
Yeah, he is. Yeah, what was your one pick? I was going to take Blake Griffin.
Oh, yeah. NBA Jam style.
Me and Blake, two versus everybody. Blake now or? No, yeah.
Blake now, he can still dunk. Yeah, he can still dunk.
Okay, I'll say that. He told us he can still dunk.
He was great as a teammate. The best.
He's the best guy ever. Funny guy.
He's, Blake Griffin, there's a few guys. No, I'm not gonna sit here.
In the history of this podcast. No, hold on.
I'm not gonna sit here and lie. First game we play.
First practice I've ever been to Clippers. Ain't trying to hear that shit doc him and DeAndre Jordan

arguing with doc I look at

Lou Will damn this is what we signed up for

mind you it's prior

shit that probably happened before that we don't know

we get in the game

I'm trying to you know I feel like I'm

one of the top five post feeders

meaning get the ball pass it to the guys

in the post you know

Blake yells out be the fucking ball

hey

you can talk to me anyway

don't talk to me like that though

Thank you. I said to the guys in the post.
You know, Blake yells out, you're the fucking ball. You can talk to me anyway.

Don't talk to me like that though.

You know, so, but Blake was cool.

Yeah, he's, there's a few people in the history,

pardon my take, we've been doing a long time.

I can be like, that guy was a huge part of our success.

Blake is one of them.

Because he bought it, I mean,

he's been a guest for six, seven years.

Like, he just bought into everything. He's the best.
The best because he bought it. I mean, he's been a guest for six, seven years.
He just bought into everything.

He's the best.

The best.

He gets it.

Okay, so what's up with you and J.J. Reddick?

I know.

That's my guy.

Oh, you guys squashed it.

No, it wasn't over no beef.

Well, it seemed like there was some beef.

Obviously, that's how the media did it.

You said Doc saved your life, right?

What do you mean?

I mean, if you tell me.

What do you mean the media?

You said it.

You're the media.

You are the media. I am.
Literally the biggest media in the biggest media and they give me zero credit for it it's crazy but yeah I just I don't know you think this tape was I don't know caramel caramel color I think it's brown I disagree with you that's all that's all it is I still like you I like your shades I like you capitals cat like I even love your hair you feel me but I just disagree with what you said I'm not disagreeing with the person with the message. Separate the art from the artist.
Yeah, that's it. That's all I'm doing.
I just disagree. That's all.
That's it. Okay.
Do you love playing defense? I feel like in order for me to sustain a career in the NBA, the key or the code to the bank or to the key to getting the door was defense. Now once I set the stone in six years, like I always play long game.
Okay, I'm going to play defense for six years, right? I should be cool. If I ride that wave, I should be good for like another eight or nine years.
Doing that eight or nine years, I can show offense now. I should be close to my 30s, like, and that's all that's happening.
Yeah. And I get to respect the defense.
So now I can go up and, ah, smack the shit out of somebody, hit no ball, hit all arm, ref, give me, steal. You know what I'm saying? And now I can go, okay, cool, let me shoot fadeaways now.
I'm 35 years old, what you going to tell me? Don't shoot it. I'm not sure.
Trying to hear that shit. So, like, I used the defense to get in the door, and now, you know, I'm allowing people to see the offense.
Yeah. It's been great.
Has it become harder to play defense in the NBA now? With all the, like, you can't touch anybody. No, I just, it's always, but as offensive players, they find their tricks.
As defensive players, I find my tricks. Yeah.
Okay, cool. I can't touch you, but I can overhelp because you don't like to pass.
Or I can't touch you. Okay, cool.
I'm going to just deny you. Motherfucker can't score.
You don't got the ball. You know, oh, I can't touch you.
All right, cool. I'm going to touch you in areas where refs can't see all the gray area spots.
Okay. What are those spots? Pause it.
What the ref see? What the ref see? What the ref see? Oh, okay. Right wing underneath the elbow.
They really don't see that. I can hit you.
I can, I can grab you. I can hold you.
Okay. Jersey.
I'm six, I'm six years in with defense in with defense i'm three all defensive guys okay cool i can check a motherfucking ref don't say nothing so i try to find my cheat codes just like offensive guys to find theirs i love that there's the old hypothetical like if uh if you were taking an average fan and lock them in a gym with you for let's say like two hours how many points could an average fan score average fan yeah how tall is this average fan average height let's say like Hank let's say Hank two hours, how many points could an average fan score? Average fan? Yeah. How tall is this average fan? Average height? Let's say like Hank.
Let's say Hank. He's six feet tall.
He can't dunk. He thinks he's going to be able to dunk.
Maybe the one shot where you dribble, dribble, dribble, pick up your dribble, can't shoot, turn around, throw it. Over your head, you get a lucky balance.
Yeah, that might be probably two of those, but that's it. Four points, two hours.
What about – that would be a great next challenge. Good stream, yeah.
You versus Dave Portnoy. He can't leave until he scores.
Yeah. And you know him? He'll probably, like, make that shot.
Like the – oh, my God. The heave.
Yeah, but no, he can't throw it. He can't throw it.
My shoulder. Yeah.
That's what I'm saying. He might do this one.
The behind. Goes in.
Clamp him. He runs off.
You know what I'm saying? You get like probably in two hours, I think you could have 300 block shots against Dave and just swat him. Yeah, easy.
But you got to think, I don't block shots. So in basketball, I've learned like, okay, cool.
I don't jump like the way I used to. I'm fucking 35, so I have to figure out another way.
Hey, coach, you look through the rule book.

What is counting as a block shot?

Obviously, Pat, over the top is counting as a block shot,

but swiping down, hitting it before it goes up.

Counting as block shots. I go to Kawhi.

Hey, Kawhi tells me, hey, Pat,

you want to be on the all-defensive team?

You got to get more blocks. Okay, cool.

I can't get the block up top.

But most of the guys, when they got out of the ball,

they take it low.

If I have my hand right there above the belly, I can get everyone's ball. I led the league in blocks.
How many block shots a year do you have just screaming like, whoo, in someone's ear right before they shoot? Like yelling. No, you know, my shit is more like, give me that shit.
Right before they shoot? Because that counts as a block shot in my eyes. Yeah.
I did that when we were playing pickup yesterday. One of the guys admitted it.
He was about to shoot and I couldn't get to him. And I just went, whoo! Right as he was shooting.
Yeah, most people, they kind of scared anyway. Yeah.
You know what my trick used to be when I was playing pickup? If somebody was shooting a three, I would just fall down in front of them. If I'm playing defense, just make a big display out of falling down their face face.
They start laughing as they're taking the shots. They're like, what the fuck was that?

It's so crazy you said that. We in

training camp with the Clippers.

We run into play.

It's so crazy you just said this story. Doc Rivers

was like, hey yo Pat,

I just want you to just fall down.

Inbound the ball. I fall

down. Everybody look at me.
Corner three. You say the same thing.
It's the old like, bark like a dog play. It works.
It literally worked. It's good.
All right. I got one last question.
This has been awesome. We're going to have you back on in the playoffs now that we've done it in person, which was long overdue, even though you stole Roan.
Yeah, you guys literally gave them to me. Yeah, that's true.
That was a mistake. That was a trade I'd like to have.
Ooh. Ooh.
There's a 14-year-old right now, though, that's going to be on part of my take. Yeah, that is.
We gave you Rone. We got future rights here.
We're going to talk about it. You're a 14-year-old.
Right, right. All right.
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Yeah. Do they respect you? And is there one ref that gives you a really hard time? Because I love that about the NBA where they'll be.
Who's the ref who would just always tee up Tim Duncan no matter what? Was that Joey Crawford? It might have been Joey Crawford. Oh, yeah.
Is there one ref that you're like, all right, they're reffing tonight and they're just going to give me hell? No. They mostly respect you? Yeah, but they also know that I like the – I flirt the lines too.
Yeah. So where is the line? Like when – like is it obviously different with each ref, but how close do you get to the line on a night-to-night? I go so I always know before a game.
I go up to ref before the national anthem. I go up to ref.
What's up? What's going on? I see who talks. But you understand they're still human too.
The kid might be sick. There's a lot going on right refs are human too so i kind of get the energy from there right okay okay cool i see a rookie or something hey man you ever ref me before man no hey y'all tell them how to ref me man don't be calling that soft ass shit man i ain't got time for this shit bro for real people watching me on tv bro you gonna fuck up my defensive rating straight up so don't be calling and all ticky tack shit and i have a ref like yo what's up man what's up with our relationship we used to have a good relationship last year man what when do we end up to this point we can't fucking talk this is all before the game yeah right and i had refs that coming to me like yo pat last game man last game i refed.
You're right. That was unacceptable.
And I have also repped that.

Yeah, Pat, I looked at that play.

You know what?

I was wrong about that play.

You're right.

So my energy always starts before.

Yeah.

So now when I'm getting into a game, it's really like your homie cursing at you

instead of like a basketball player cursing.

Right.

Because I go up there with the rookies.

This is the thing people don't see either.

I go up there with the rookies.

Shea Gilles, Alexander, make sure you know every ref. Take them to the huddle.
Make sure you know all their names. Anthony Aarons, all their names.
All my rookies, all their names. Make sure you know the refs, all names.
So when they see that over years, it's not like I'm coming at a disrespectful way. I done fucking foul him, man.
Fuck, I'm going to waste my foul on this bum-ass motherfucker for you. He trashed.
I'm going to waste my foul on DeMar DeRozan, not fucking him him you know what i'm saying like so when i say stuff like that it's not like that oh man he's cursing me out like all right okay cool pat no fuck that man all right pat chill now you fucking chill don't start that you know then we go yeah yeah but it's never like that's smart you're establishing the relationship yeah yeah it's very smart yeah uh what about what do you think about draymond because he kind of he does some similar things with you with the podcast yeah with the media sometimes i think that draymond does wild shit on the court because he knows that he can talk about his pod and get better ratings on his pod so he's like doing marketing for himself when he plays basketball sometimes no but like in terms of his game on the court he's known as a fiery guy he's known as somebody that crosses that line. What's it like playing against him? So, what people you have to understand with Draymond, regardless of people, like it or not, he's a champion.
One, two, three, four time champion. Mm-hmm.
Right? Their team makeup isn't anyone who gets texts, literally. No one else on their team, right? Wiggins, he don't get no texts.
Steph definitely ain't good at texts, unless he throw mouthpieces or some shit. Yeah, he did do that.
That was very dangerous. Clay really don't get no texts.
So somebody got to establish a foundation of, hold on, yeah, we're the champions, and we ain't no motherfucking neither. You know, and that's Draymond.
But when comes champion, he's able to say things that no one else in the NBA can say. Yeah.
He says shit sometimes out. What the fuck? You can say that? Like, even if I say that, I'll get a tech.
Mm-hmm. You know, and I got whatever I have and whatever individual wars I had defensively and whatever.
But when you're a champion, not just one, two, three, four, you can say shit and you can get away with it. Yeah.
I mean, I love watching Draymond play. He's gone a little crazy at times.
But what he does on defense is, like, insane. It's just everything he's doing on defense means something.
And he's never, like, wasting a step. And he's always in the right place.
And they let him roam too. They give him the J.J.
Watt treatment. They let him do whatever the fuck you want.
Oh, I like that. Cross-sport analogy.
Yeah. They give him the J.J.
Watt treatment. Freelance.
How much football do you watch? A lot. Not a lot? When I have micro fracture, the first person I reach out to is J.J.
Watt. Yeah.
He reached out to me. The doctor who did his did mine.
And he, listen, man, I want you to plan small milestones, Pat, each way, small goals. Okay, today I'm going to take this.
I'm going to do 1,000 quad squeezes. This day I'm going to take my first step.
I'm going to get off crutches this day, right? He literally gave me the whole thing to get back from micro fracture. No one's ever come back from micro fracture.
Yeah, it's like the hardest surgery, right? Literally. Because they honestly break your bone.
I've been on microfracture for five years. People don't even come back.
Chandler Parsons don't even come back. Amari Stolmeyer hasn't even come back.
Kenya Martin hasn't even come back from the injury. I'm value strong.
You know what I'm saying? Didn't miss a day. Listen to everything.
You know what I'm saying? I'm. You know what I'm saying? But, like, yeah.
So I watched people who had a little influence on me. So I used to watch JJ.
Yeah, JJ's a good dude. He's another one where we bullied him into an interview way at the beginning of Part of My Take.
And he's become part of the history of Part of My Take. We literally online bullied him.
Yeah. But I go from like, you know, as you say, I've been on so many teams.

So I just kind of take up the makeup.

My original team was obviously the Bears, you know, but right.

Don't go so well.

Right.

Most of the time.

So I usually adopt the team I usually go to.

No, you can't do Packers.

You can't.

I cannot.

You cannot do Packers. You can't do that.
You're not allowed to. I don't like the pause you're taking right now let's see how this year plays out let's see how this year plays out first and then I'll see if I'm going to get a cheesehead make you an owner of the team sell you a share stock that means I got one last question.
Do you guarantee a championship this year?

I guarantee a chance to compete for a championship, yes.

Yeah.

That's a smart answer.

It's the only answer.

Okay.

I mean, you're good enough.

Yeah.

The Bucs.

That must have been, like, it's a big mood swing.

You have 11 starters.

I get traded again, and then, wait, it's to a team that, like,

I actually think I might be a good piece on this team. So that's why the trade happened.
The trade happened, like, okay, cool, we need something that, you know, you have, take campaign, take the 14-year-old, everything's cool, right? You got Doc back. Doc already, like, like, Pat, do your thing.
But you got to think I'm also, like, Doc's not coaching. Doc, I'm thinking about you.
You feel me? We lose with the Bulls.

Hey, Doc, man, y'all got a chance to win a championship, bro.

I'm rooting for y'all.

Like, he texts me, Pat, what you see?

Anything you see out there?

No, Doc.

Before games, Pat, what you think about this game?

Fuck that, Doc.

We playing the Bulls, Doc.

Rebounding is the only thing we should think about.

Right?

So, like, influences are real big when it comes to all that.

Yeah. So, when it comes to coaching and it comes to all that, I can't wait.
How many years do you want to play? How many more years? I probably got another six in me. Okay.
And then you'll just start being an everyday guy here. You've already been here.
I mean, you had a party here last night, but thank you for taking care of all of my people. It was a wild text to get.
Pat was just like 10 a.m. on Friday.
But guys think like, oh, man, what Pat taking us to the motherfucking hood or something? Yeah. Especially when I send an address, you know, and they don't know.
Yeah. Then they get here like, oh, shit, Pat, I should have came out early.
Yeah. I'm like literally the best place.
He texted me 10 a.m. on Friday.
He was like, Kat, I need a place for after the game. Day of games.
Yeah, he's like, teammates, cards, friends, chicks, hookah, I need it. And I was like, all right, I guess so.
We'll do it. Hey, listen, Cat, Big Cat made it so easy, man.
Everything was yes. I couldn't say no to you.
Everything was yes. Everything was okay, cool.
I need 20 hookahs. Can't have 20 hookahs.
I said, I was like, we got a lot of expensive equipment. I was like, how about five? You're like, how about 10? I was like, all right.
Right. So, yeah, it was cool, man.
It was a vibe. It was great.
Got a chance to shoot basketballs, play some cards. I love it.
We got to hire like a blackjack dealer. Yeah.
Comes in Friday nights. I mean, I love it.
You are part of the Barstool culture, and I just, it's awesome. It's like your podcast has been incredible, and you buying in has been awesome,'s it's it's fucking great having you be able to show up like i said you're a regular guy which is you wouldn't think a guy's been in the nba for as long as you'd be like come hang with us this shit you know it's just so you got to think this shit's made me more famous than basketball you got to think we got we got we got a hundred million views that's crazy you know it's crushing you know i'm saying so like, 100 million motherfuckers and saw me, like.
99 of those are a roan. Okay.
Yeah. Okay.
Yeah, yeah. Let's give it credit.
I mean, so, like, the platform here has been great. Like, I just been.
But you guys don't understand, man. I study so many people here in this office at night, just like I do on my film.
Like, okay, cool. I come in here.
I take video pictures. Okay, cool.
I can put that with mine to try to. Okay, I try to add a little shit.
Go Mike. Shit that, okay, I might have seen.
Like, I studied so many people in this office. It wouldn't be a mistake that everything's successful with the pod.
Give us a scouting report on somebody in this office. Okay.
I got a content idea because I'm always thinking content. But go ahead.
You go first and then I I got a content idea. Son of a boy dad.
Sass. The other guy.
No, but he's ducking you on video games. Harvard.
Yeah, Francis. Francis.
Francis is the best. Just call him Harvard.
We know him. Harvard.
Okay, okay. He's the best.
The way he's able to go in different lanes. Yep.
Like without honking a horn, without hitting a break, like his transitions to the lanes that he wants to get to, when he wants to get to them. I'm talking about the smoothest transitions I've seen.
Yeah. So, okay, cool.
I can, I have unique perspective, so I'm gonna use the same smooth transition, but hit crazy topics, so now when I'm done, you're like, whoa, what the fuck? Watch it back. What did you just say? Watch it back.
What did you say? Watch it back. What did you say? Next thing you watched it 78 times.
Yeah. Right.
Then I go, I go Tommy smokes. I go cool.
I'm light. I'm here, but I'm not here, but you feel me? I'm heavy.
We're going to cut this part because we don't want Tommy to get an ego. Oh, okay.
Okay. You know what I'm saying? But like, yeah, that'd be a real shame if Tommy got an ego.
but I'm not here, but you feel me? I'm heavy. We're going to cut this part because we don't want Tommy to get an ego.
Oh, okay, okay. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that would be a real shame if Tommy had an ego.
But I go down, I see like the little hitters, big cat throw in, you know, like, okay, cool, Mance is down there. Like he knows Mance is like the back of his hand.
Like Mance is down there, you know, shooting threes. And he's not even looking down there.
Like, not even, literally, not head is, Mantis is behind him.

Shooting only free throws, Mantis.

I knew he knew it.

Like, he knows exactly what's going on.

So, okay, being aware of the room, you know what I'm saying?

I knew he was going to show up and just start whapping threes.

Dave, obviously, you know, I watch Dave so much, just unapologetic,

just whatever.

Erica, when she was here, you know, the one-on-ones and, like, the one-on-ones. So, like, I'm just so much, just unapologetic, just whatever.
Erica, when she was here, the one-on-ones, the one-on-ones.

So I'm just, okay, cool.

I'm just stealing a little bit of everything,

and I'm just trying to form in my shit.

Can I throw out a content idea?

You can say no.

And maybe not this year because you're-

You already gave me one, though.

Which one?

Oh, Lockdown Dave.

Yeah, I'm definitely stealing that.

What if I could give you someone to be part of your team for maybe like a week or two and we can document it. He just goes everywhere Pat goes.
He's part of your team. You can maybe even have him drive for you.
He's bag man. He's doing everything with you.
Ben Mintz. The guy who said nigger.
Him. Right that's the only thing he said it in a lyric I know but he did say it listen you gotta understand once I hear that name that's the first thing I think of I mean I'm know, I believe in Jesus Christ, so I'm the turn of the cheek type of guy.
Maybe someone else. Good point.
Fair point. But I'm the turn of the cheek guy, so, yeah, come on.
Have him slide with me. Ben Mintz turned his cheek the other day.
Got hit in the face with a football. A concussion style.
Yeah. What about Frank the Tank? I've won on record to say Frank the Tank, he's really the magician.
He's more famous than anyone at Barstool. People, when we talk to coaches, athletes, everything, they always – J.J.
Watt, he texts me, he's like, I can't get enough of Frank the Tank. He's the best.
Watch all of his videos. I come in the office, he's like, I think because he was running late.
I was in the office, I brought donuts, it was a lot of content being put out. you seen people that were not in the office, I think because he was running late.
I was in the office, I brought donuts,

it was a lot of content being put out.

You've seen people that were not in the office in the background.

Obviously, if they don't know, you guys don't watch that.

They're crazy, right?

He comes in a little late.

Yeah, Pat, all the trains were down.

I'm like, what?

All the trains.

He'll give it to you, too.

I got to get a train back.

Everything, everything's down.

Everything's down. What the fuck is going on, man? We had Blake Griffin come to the office when he was on the Nets, and Frank was a Nets fan.
And Frank, I think, said he was like, yeah, Blake, you're like a B minus C plus this year. Just straight to his face.
Blake's like, what? Right. Yeah, that's Frank.
He knows. But he doesn't want you to know he knows everything.
He's great. Yeah.
He's great. Shout out to Frank the Tank.
Well, Pat, thank you for making time for us. For me.
Thank you for allowing me to have me on here, bro. Yeah, you'll be back on.
We got to get you back on in playoffs, whether in person or Zoom. You're only 90 minutes away.
Only. Yeah, so we'll come up to you.
No, no, no. You came down here.
We got to come up to you. No, no, I like coming here.
The office is very good. We'll get Giannis on, too.
Yeah, I like that. Yeah.
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Hank. Yeah, my Fire Fest.
I still have a Christmas tree, and I don't know what to do. What? Oh, nice, Hank.
It's March. Yeah.
I respect that. Well, we were January.
I was locked into comedy. It was not, and it was still January.
This is going to be a great spin zone. Then we were in Vegas I was in Arizona There's a lot of time We're going to be in October and Hank's still going to be using this comedy show Seriously That was for January then it was Super Bowl Then we were in Arizona Then I was kind of sick I didn't feel 100% And now You've barely been here You were like then I was hungover for a week And so I couldn't take it out and then you know last week probably should have taken it out and now it just tears me in the face it's like fuck and make it an easter tree in my old building both my old buildings used to have like you could pay for storage or whatever because i bought it's like a 150 tree or something i don't just throw it out throw Throw it off the balcony.
Not doing that. Why? But what I was thinking is this room could use some- No, we're not taking your garbage.
There's no chance you're going to bring it in. Yeah, I would.
No, because the worst part of it- So here's the thing about the Christmas tree, Hank, is it's gotten so dry now. Well, it's a fake tree.
Oh. That's what I'm saying.
I should store it. I can store it.
Or just throw... No, you can't store it here.
I'll take it back next December. No, because you'll forget to take it back.
No, I won't. I'll need a tree.
Just store it somewhere. Where? In your car.
Or your closet. I'm storing it in my car.
Put it in your kitchen. I don't have room in my closet just keep it up dude it doesn't like

you can't like break it down there's i haven't like i don't have a closet space you have no storage in your apartment the tree definitely comes apart shit in it put it in the front of your parking spot i don't know just put it in shotgun and drive around with it. Yeah.
You're going to just use it.

We're now his storage.

If allowed, I think it could help.

No.

Spice.

Hank, I'm going to say no out of principle.

Walk me through the content, Brandon, on your part.

We're not allowed to have a flight simulator in the office, but we can have a Christmas tree taken up pretty much the exact same amount of room.

We have storage space.

I'll put it in a bin in the back of a closet.

No, we're not your storage.

All right. So then I'll just throw it away.
I don't know. Oh, no.
Don't threaten us. Well, no.
I was hoping you guys were going to give me some solutions. Oh, no.
Did you hear that? PFT might throw it away. So why don't you just put it on your hallway and hope it disappears? Because that's throwing it away, and then my building is mad at me.
Yeah. Just put it in someone else's room.
When you said you still had a Christmas tree, I think we both assumed that you had a live Christmas tree, or a tree that was at one point alive. Dude, just throw it in a dumpster.
I'm probably going to do that. I just like, it's a nice tree.
I like it. You have enough storage in your apartment.
You live in a two-bedroom apartment by yourself. Yeah.
And there's not a fucking closet that you can break it down and put it in a box i guess it's just gonna take up a lot of space put it under your bed wait are you going you're going box spring on the ground no no he's got a nice bed a nice bed but there's not i don't have like a child's bed where there's there's not there's definitely a closet in your apartment that has no sleep. I have two closets.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You got a third closet.

Yeah.

All right.

All right.

I'll think about it.

Well, I'm getting rid of it, but I guess it's either trash or closet.

Not here.

Yeah.

I was hoping you guys would make...

We need a tree.

No.

No.

Finally.

No.

No.

It's white.

It's a white Christmas tree?

Oh. This is a fucked up tree.
This is. I don't want that tree.
Talked about a sick joke. Get a live tree, Hank.
Oh my God. Have some Christmas spirit.
All right. Was it white before Nicky smokes came over? Nope.
He's never been over my condo ever. Well, condo.
I always, I always, let's get that clear. It's a condo people.
He owns. I didn't know that that was a difference until people are like why don't you say condo yeah i know does sound a lot cooler yeah but i before i i thought they were the same thing have you had to talk to the board at all for anything uh when i got when i was moving in yeah and then I went to a monthly meeting once.

You went?

I went in the summer, and it was just literally eight super old women drinking wine.

And you went?

Yeah, it was great.

That rules.

Did you offer any suggestions?

No, we just talked about life.

Actually, wait. I explained parcel to them.

They were like, oh.

Wait till the next board meeting.

Go to it.

Bring a bottle of wine. And then be like, hey, ladies, I got a good idea.
How can we spruce up the lobby? How about a white Christmas tree? Boom. Problem solved.
VK, I've got some news for you. What? Some breaking news.
Oh. Hank? Breaking news.
Oh, I'm nervous. Wait, did I get a shifter alert? Jalen Johnson extended.
Oh, okay. Yes.
Let's go. Four-year deal.
Yeah, he was franchise tagged, and they were saying they were going to keep working on it. Fucking love it.
It's a good move. Oh, Bears are back.
Bears are back. I don't think PFT can be tripped.
I mean, I saw you say this, too, which I saw it was like Arnold Brothers meme when you posted a picture of Blake, and people were like, how long have those picture frames been on your floor? Yeah. I still, it's like, I'm 95% moved in, but for whatever reason, I have two pictures that I haven't hung up that I have the material.
That's where they live. I have a room in my house that's my office and it just has boxes that have never been unpacked every every kitchen should have two pieces of art that just kind of lean up against the refrigerator yeah yeah all right pft your fire fest i've got two the first one is that hank owes me 60,012 oh that sounds like a lot it's a lot of money so i've taken 60,000 from hank really 60,020 over the last two days playing golf against him he paid me eight so now well you said i was like do you have change? You're like, no.
And then for 60,000 from Hank, really $60,020 over the last two days playing golf against him. He paid me $8,000.
Well, you said, I was like, do you have change? You're like, no. For $60,000? For $100,000? Then I gave you the $8,000.
You're like, okay, now you still owe me $12,000. So that was kind of- Okay, I'll tell you what I'll do, Hank.
I'll wipe the $12 clean. Hank owes me $60,000.
You guys should keep playing until one of you hits a million. I'm down.
And then that person- He owes you a million. Yeah.
I like that. So I'm never going to collect on that um or you're gonna lose it shut the fuck up hank so my other my other fire fest is uh i was talking with some of the chicago guys today and i do this every year for baseball season i'm getting in the mindset for betting on baseball because i i have a system every year my system is very simple it's bet against one team for every single game and i've done it with the pirates and i've done it with the athletics and it's been profitable both seasons that i've done it now i haven't done it to the extent that i'm planning on doing it and then i got all worked up about it about a content idea and i think i'm just going to have to do it because it sounds like it sounds like a lot of fun but i think i'm'm going to bet $100,000 against either the Athletics or the Chicago White Sox every single game this season.
I'm going strictly based off of- Not every game you're betting $100,000. No, correct.
Total. That's your bankroll.
That's the bankroll. I'll match.
Over the course of the season, I did the math. It's a $617 bet every single day that they play.
What? Oh, yeah. So you won't have to ever put up $100.
How much? I'm going to be betting a total of $100,000. How much per game? He's going to bet $617.
$617. I won't match.
Every game. The real trick in this situation.
That was a tricky way you said that, where as you started it, it was like you're betting $100,000 every it's that was smart i'm good no no i'm betting a hundred thousand dollars total this season right but that won't count yeah i might when you say that i was like i'm i'm not going to lose a hundred thousand right 617 every day correct so i think i think it's going to be profitable no matter which team i pick but i always do it based based strictly off vibes. And this year I'm leaning right now towards doing the athletics again.
The athletics are leading the league in bad vibes. Yeah.
Nobody in Oakland wants to go see them anymore. The team is halfway in Las Vegas putting up like fake bullshit, coked out Photoshop.
Vegas doesn't want them. Vegas doesn't want them either.
The Photoshop they put out of the new state. Did you see it? Yeah.
It's insane. It's an insane Photoshop.
And the plot of land that they're going to say that they're building it on is not big enough to fit that ballpark. Yeah.
Put that on. And the athletics have turned off replies to all their tweets.
I love that. So you can't even reply to a single tweet that they have, which goes against the first amendment and judging by their pitching staff, the Second Amendment as well.
Look at this Photoshop right here. It's crazy.
I love it. I want this stadium.
It's just insane. I would love it too.
It's also probably violating- It's Sydney Opera House. I was going to say, it's probably violating some sort of copyright infringement on the Sydney Opera House.
I think you should do the A's because I don't know how much you talked to white socks, Dave, but he had, I was talking to him the other day. He had the white socks for 60 wins, but then he went to spring chain training and talked to the entire white socks organization.
He's upgraded to 66. Yeah.
So I did talk to, talk to the guys who actually are like, he was like, yeah, they're really bullish. I was like at spring training, I talked to white socks, Dave aboutave about it for this specific reason he's like i think they're going to be better than last year and then chief was like does this have anything to do with you spending a week hanging out with them right yeah probably spring training where it's the best vibes possible yeah because his his explanation was they're all young hungry guys that are going to bust their ass that nobody believes in okay and i also don't feel like sticking my finger in the south side of Chicago's eye.
Yeah. So I think it might be the athletics.
Yeah, I think it is. Okay, officially decided.
I'm betting $100,000 against the athletics. I love it.
Although that's not... Breaking it down, $617.
$617, yeah. I'm betting $100,000 against the athletics.
Well, you said it was fine, yeah. So, yeah, so I guess I'm going to have to do that this season.
But I feel like it's going to make me money. Yeah.
I feel good about this. I might take this journey with you.
You want to do it? Yeah. Do it every single day, because fuck John- Not run line? I was thinking about run line.
Okay. Not money line.
Yeah. Because I was going to say, money line's going to get expensive.
And it's risking- It's like, you'll risk 600 to win like 150 some days. You want to do run line? Yeah.
And then we run line. Every day, minus one and a half against the A's.
Okay. So the tricky part is going to be remembering to do this.
Yeah. So someone's got to remind us.
Jake's out today. Somebody, Max.
Remind you every day? Every day that the wife's- No, you know what? You know what? I got the perfect person, Stephen Shea. Steven Shea will absolutely remind us every day and we'll want to fucking kill him.
I need him to send us a text with a link to the bet slip pre-filled out. Every day.
Every day. Okay.
My Fire Fest is a little bit of a teaser but we knocked off another white whale and it's coming Monday and we've had to sit on it all week yep we sure did we sure did so get excited awls because yeah the man or woman has been uh a recurring topic throughout the history of part of my take yeah are we putting the short teaser and should we maybe could just do his voice Like it fades to black and it's his voice?

Yeah.

So Viva TV.

Viva TV.

Tune in Viva TV on Friday night.

There will be a teaser on who it is.

And yeah, get ready.

Yeah, just have it be as like it goes to black and then you hear his voice.

Very excited.

We nailed it too.

I think so. I think so.
I think we did as best as we could Given the circumstances Let's just leave it at that Max, do you have a fire fest? This whole week was a fire fest Oh yeah, the toilet Nova How's your toilet? No rugs His name is Max. Is your toilet fixed? Toilet's fixed.

Your nephew has a way cooler name than you?

Yeah.

I mean, that's not a fire fest.

I'm never going to let you meet Big Dom.

Don't say that.

Oh, future fire fest.

Okay.

It's all right.

Next week will be better, right?

Yeah.

Yeah, Big East Tournament.

What could go wrong?

Saturday, big game.

Who are you playing?

Creighton.

Oh, got to win.

Got to win. Super Bowl.
I know. Kyle Neptune said it was a Super Bowl.
That Crayton. Oh, got to win.
Got to win.

Super Bowl.

I know.

Kyle Neptune said it was a Super Bowl.

That's so bad.

Oh, man.

All right, let's do numbers.

40.

20.

3.

77.

8.

Max and I are in a dangerous dance.

99. Stealing each other's numbers.

Dangerous dance. 99.
12. Dangerous dance.
21.

36.

36.

Love you guys.

Get excited for Monday.

Love you guys. Get excited for Monday.
Love you guys. Talking away I don't know what I'm to say I say it anyway Today's another day to find you

Shining away

I'll be coming for your love of me

Hey, don't want me Take me on me Take me on I'll be gone Without a long time Needless to say I'm not sending Spooky stolen away The other life is... I love you.
Honey, take me out.

I'll be gone.

Put it down too.