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Maybe J.J. Redick versus the world.
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And this has been just the JJ Redick week. He's pissed off the entire world.
It's his world. We're just living in it.
He pissed off Pat Bev. Pissed off Doc Rivers.
Yeah. He pissed off Not Ball Knowers online.
Yeah. The fans.
So when JJ says, like, I only get 50,000 people watching an X's nose thing, I'm one of those because I know ball. Humble brag.
That's what I want. Now, we like JJ Redick.
He's a friend of ours. He's a friend of the show.
But I feel like this is just JJ Redick doing his full return to Duke form. Yeah, I think he's kind of doing a little bit of a there's a couple of things that he said that I was like, I disagree with that.
But when he goes on first take, I think he's just playing up the fact that like everyone used to hate him and they see that face and they see him being like, I'm smarter than you. And it's like, oh yeah, that was, that was Duke JJ Redick.
I don't like him. I think it's, it's more of the Duke JJ Redickdick in the mindset of like i'm i'm the only one that appreciates like true knowledge yeah you guys don't understand true knowledge jay billis does that from time to time too yes when he gets deep in his bag on that lawyer shit yeah uh and sometimes we just want to watch people scream about the cowboys at each other yeah and it was it was an interesting um week for him because he basically started the week he bashed doc rivers and and said, you know, he always has an excuse, which I agreed with.
Doc Rivers does have a lot of excuses. We played that on Wednesday.
And then on, I think it was maybe Wednesday or Thursday, he went on first take and was like, why does everyone care about what I said about my former coach? Which, yeah, of course, if a player calls out his former coach like we just did an entire robert griffin the third verse jay gruden story arc well this that's like everyone will always tune in if a player's like my former coach johnny manzel just bashed brian hoyer and people are talking about that that is always going to be what people want to want to listen this is also the next iteration of saying something inflammatory, getting invited back on shows to defend your inflammatory thing. Where now he's going back on shows and he's fighting back and he's like, this shouldn't be inflammatory.
Then the discussion becomes like, why aren't we as a society smarter about what we choose to watch in terms of basketball knowledge? Right. And it's funny because in 2024, I would make the argument that fans are more knowledgeable than they've ever been in any part of like sports history yeah there is countless things that you can watch if you want to learn more about the game that you love like just it's the internet there's podcasts there's clips there's everything is at your fingertips when it comes to becoming a more knowledgeable fan unfortunately what jj misses is we are fans and fans are a lot of times dumb i'm counting myself and we like drama we like to to make knee-jerk reactions we like to have stupid debates with our friends it's not hard to figure out that like we want to be entertained we're we're we're dumb creatures who want to be entertained sports should be entertainment being like why isn't anyone watching my zion williamson uh primary ball handler clip yeah i guess i'd watch it it'd probably be interesting but yeah i also want to debate like you know uh will lebron go back to cleveland yeah also the people that end up paying jj's salary are mostly the ones that just want to talk about lebron the dallas cowboys the yankees and the dodgers all the time it's it's like one of those things you can't fight it that's why this show exists is we were we're dumb sports fans that were lucky enough to like be sitting in these seats talking into a microphone and we also understand that most sports fans want to be entertained and have sports be an escape from everyday bullshit we can do both sides of the coin too because right now we're debating whether or not we want people to be smarter about sports, whether or not they should want to be smarter, and it got distilled down to Duke sucks.
Yeah, Duke does suck. So that's the main takeaway that you can get.
I do think he is doing a little bit of a bit when he goes on first take. It's the heel in him.
He's being the professional wrestler. You guys don't deserve me on team.
Right. I kind of like that.
Yeah. Maybe you're a little bit of a masochist when you watch TV sometimes.
I like it when experts on TV are like, you piece of shit walk me right now. I am so much smarter than you when it comes to all this stuff.
I'm like, God damn, he's owning me. MJF is one of the most popular wrestlers in the world.
He calls his fans poor constantly. Yeah.
Like, we're all subs. We just want to be domed.
When Andy Kaufman went to Memphis and called everybody Hicks and shit. Yeah.
Yeah. Like, we want to be insulted, and then we want to get mad at you and be like, no, our conference is the best conference.
Fuck you, dude. Choke me out, JJ.
Yeah. We need him to go on Pat Pev.
Step on me with some heels. Pat Pev, I think, is going to be in the office next Friday.
He's going's going to come on PMT. Although I like what Pat Bev did.
I don't have a problem with Pat Bev having Doc Rivers back because like one thing that you know about Pat Bev, if he's in your foxhole, he's in there deep. Yeah, real deep.
And so he he signs with a box and immediately he's like, I'm riding or dying with Doc Rivers. Yeah, that's as simple as it is.
Well, he's been Doc's guy for a long time. Yeah.
Also a bit wild to claim that J.J.'s career was saved by Doc Rivers. I liked it, though, because guess what? That to me is like, okay, J.J.'s been pretty good at shooting three-pointers for his entire life.
But if you get to a take first, it's just like, yeah, that makes sense. Doc made you, J.J.
I didn't look up any stats behind it because then J.J. got caught in a – basically, he got caught in his own trap because Pat Bev said something inflammatory and then J.J.
tried to back it up with stats that it wasn't true. And I saw the tweet, and it was just too many numbers.
So I just passed right over it. And I was like, no, Pat Bev was right.
Yeah, there's a stats that normal people don't know how to read. Right.
Yeah. Right, right.
He put a bunch of stats. I was like, I don't know if this is proving his point or not.
I'm assuming it is because he posted them, but I don't know what any of this shit means. Like are dumb.
I mean that in a loving way. I consider myself not that smartest person when it comes to the sports I watch, but I love watching sports.
I love the drama of it. I love sports.
You put on a game, you don't know what's going to happen. That's the beauty of sports.
Pat Pat's point was you blew a 3-1 lead to us, and that's a fact. That's a fact.
That's basically checkmate. That's easily digestible.
That's a meme. Yeah.
He wrapped him up in a meme and said, no, here's a fact that's basically checkmate that's easily digestible

that's a meme yeah yeah he wrapped him up in a meme and said no here's why you're wrong and when i think jj responded to him by saying uh doc didn't save my career i got offered that same year like a multi-million dollar deal for another team that i turned down so it's like somebody else wanted me at that point you're like well actually uh i'm not poor here's a screenshot of my bank account. And then Pat Bev wins that round, too.
Yeah. Yeah.
So at the end of the day, it's like this debate has happened many, many times over. I think like 10 years ago, it had more weight behind it because there weren't as many options for fans to find what they wanted in terms of content.
Now, in this day and age, it's like there's everything.

And guess what?

A lot of times the most popular thing

is the one that takes sports as entertainment

and an escape from everyone else.

There's plenty to go around.

Plenty to go around.

We should actually,

we could get this even dumber with our analysis.

Is J.J. Redick overrated as an announcer?

I was going to say,

do you guys think he's feeling himself

off his promotion from last week to the A-team? No, I actually... Noam? No, JJ's awesome.
I do think he's doing a character on first take. I swear to God.
That might be just me growing up on the Attitude Era where I can just work myself into a shoot constantly. But if you watch it under the idea that JJ is being the Duke smartass, I know more ball than you, it's great TV.
He should show up next time wearing an Ascot. Like really.
Ascot, fake prescription glasses that he doesn't need. He should just wait till Stephen A.
like says something stupid and just shove a bunch of $100 bills in his mouth. Or he should be like Stephen A.
makes a good point and then J.J. says, do you know who my father is? Yeah.
That would rock. Yeah.
My dad's a lawyer. Yeah.
He'll sue you right now. I'm all in for it.
It's entertainment. And yeah, I like learning.
I actually saw Dan Orlovsky chimed in. Dan Orlovsky's a perfect example where Dan Orlovsky, when he started his career, I thought he was a little bit boring because he was trying to teach everything.
And he started having more fun. And I think he's great.
He's great at what he does. He's a little bit weird, but in a good way.
Weird is good. Weird plays.
Yeah, he's showing his personality, and he's great he's great at what he does it's a little bit weird but in a good way weird is good but he's yeah he's showing it like his personality and he's like i will stop when i see a clip of him teaching you know a play or something i'll watch it because i know it's not going to just be droning on like this is what you should know as a football fan there's a little personality into it yeah you got i so i like both i like it when dan teaches me something and i also like it when Mark Slareth pulls up a clip. He's like, you have to play man football sometimes.
Sometimes it's just about being a man. We are that kid.
Why not both? Yeah. Why not both? That's why we have guests on this show who can tell us smart things, and then it helps us even out the dumb things that we say.
Where do you stand on this, Hank? Are you standing behind your Duke brethren? Are you on Pat Bev? The brotherhood. I mean, Pat Bev's my Barstool brother.
I kind of got a ride with him. Yeah.
But I love J.J. Reddick.
Yeah. I never thought it was like you got to pick a side.
It was more just – it was funny because J.J. did a good job of basically dominating an entire week just based off his own takes.
Hey, J.J., can you put a reminder to the calendar? Next year, the week week after the Super Bowl say something really, really inflammatory. Just absolutely take over the news site.
No, no, not the week after the after the Super Bowl. Well, the week after the Super Bowl is filled with post Super Bowl talk, right? So this is a perfect week because there was no NBA games for three days.
Yeah, but yeah, right during the all-star break and maybe we can do this during baseball season to at that like midsummer swoon. After Marsh Madness.
Yeah. Yeah.
Let's say something really, really stupid and just get people angry. Yeah.
And then we'll come back on the next show and be like, well, what we said was not exactly what you think. And then say something even dumber, and we got them in a trap.
Perfect. Yeah.
I don't like when shows do these type of tricks to try to string everyone along and get everyone like, oh, here's a cliffhanger. You got to tune in next week.
Hank, do you have your fifth Patriot? I do. The number five Patriot of all time? My number five Patriot of all time.
You know what? Let's save it. We'll save it for a little bit later in the show.
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Now we have another thing we have to

talk about big dom what's going on big dom you see the report what report about big dom so there was a report out of philadelphia that i 100 believe i do not care if this was made up i don't i don't give a fuck this is one of those things that like it passes the field test for me the report is essentially that big dom was a lot more than just a security guard he was essentially nick sirianni's emotional support animal and when he got suspended from the sideline nick sirianni spiraled out of control was fighting with players and big dom is the reason why their season fell apart and i 100 percent believe it. I mean we said this in real time.
It was happening. It's like Big Dom yeah the whole vibe that he brings I would not be shocked if Big Dom was like have you ever seen the movie Flight with Denzel he flies the airplane upside down he's the drunk pilot that one.
Sully Sullenberger? No anyways you saw that so John Goodman in that movie was the flight the plane was upside down yeah he flew it upside down then landed it save half the plane you did a barrel roll that barrel roll 747 what was that game and 64 barrel to barrel do barrel Star Fox yes such a good game yeah good game so so John Goodman is the banana boat guy that just shows up to calm Denzel down he He's got a briefcase filled with whatever he needs. Maybe Big Dom had like a pocket full of Xanax.
It was like, hey, dude, just chill out on the sideline. Yeah, you need another Italian to calm down the first Italian.
Yeah. Like you can't have an Italian alone just on the sideline roaming around without an emotional support Italian.
Maybe his mother. Yes.
He should have brought his mom down on the sidelines. Sunday gravy.
So Big Dom would not shock me if he was a reason for Nick Sirianni flying off the handle. Do you think Big Dom enjoys this type of press conference or press coverage where it's like Big Dom is the reason for this thing? Not even a tiny little bit? He's probably calling up Putin being like, how do you get these guys killed? So what are your thoughts on the Big Dom story, Max? I mean, it makes sense.
I agree with everything that you said. He's a leader in that.
Talk about a leader of men. Big Dom is a leader of men.
He's been around the program for a really long time. He's seen the ups and downs.
He's probably the most well-respected guy on that sideline. And when Big Dom tries to de-escalate, I don't think that's a word, a situation.
It was a word. It was a Philly pronunciation.
Yeah, you didn't say it right, but it was a word. Yeah.
De-escalate? De-escalate is what they say in South Philly, for sure. Yeah, no, but I think people are like, all right, Big Dom said to knock it off.
Like, we got to knock it off. It's like there was no dad.
It was like there was no dad to stop the fighting. Okay, so the question now, Max, is I think.
Except I also agree with A.J. Brown.
What did A.J. Brown say? A.J.
Brown. So A.J.
Brown has a burner that is his burner. It's like his handle with an underscore.
Okay. And he said.
Wait, A.J. Brown has a burner, so it wasn't A.J.
Brown? So it's a burner, but it's like his handle with an underscore okay and he said wait aj brown has a burner so it wasn't so it's a burner but it's so people were like oh that's a fake that's a fake tweet but then people are like no that's his burner oh that's actually a genius idea yeah to do like a fake account of yourself correct no you missed it that's just that's an imposter but it's actually you okay

yeah i gained a lot of respect for aj brown right now so i tweeted about it last night and then i got people be like oh you're fake and then people being like no that's actually real okay so what do you see he said philly media is so lame it's literally something every day then the fans be be believe this bs they really should start raising the prices of microphones and cameras because you people will say anything for views.

I see why nobody likes us because we don't even like us. Hashtag reality.
So AJ Brown's basically trying to be Shkreli for podcasters. He's like if we raise the price of these of these microphones no one can podcast.
Yeah, that's what it sounds like to me. Yeah.
Oh, I don't I don't know if I agree with this Max. We talking to microphones for a living.
No, but I don't think he's talking about us. Actually, it's great for us because we already have the microphone so we can flip them.
What if they break? I've only said positive things about A.J. Brown.
All right. So, Max, here's the big dilemma that you have now, though.
So, Big Dom is the most important person in the Philadelphia Eagles organization. I think we can all agree on that.
We all agree. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
You need a big Dom for big Dom. I got the guy, the dude that's always the guy in the stands, the fan that has all the Philly mask tattooed.
Oh, belly button. Yeah.
Yeah. Belly button has his nose.
That should be big. No, no.
See the thing about big Dom is that he doesn't need the spotlight. Like those guys all need the spotlight.
Max, you just found out what happens when Big Dom gets suspended. So next time a Dre Greenlaw situation happens, you need a Big Dom for Big Dom.
That was anti-Italian discrimination from the NFL. So maybe you don't get an Italian to be Big Dom's Big Dom.
So that way, if they go to Italians, this guy, he's German. He can's german he can walk in and be like hey stop maybe not he's not good at de-escalating he's uh swiss no but if you're german you could keep an italian in your pocket true i think i want like a greek guy like you want a greek yeah like close to italian but not quite italian then he's gonna start taking payments under the table every dime that's fine every dom needs a sub so you just get like a hoagie that he walks around with.
Yeah, but you realize that you need a big Dom protector because he's the most important piece. I'm willing to be the big Dom protector.
Okay. You are...
You would get him more fired up. Yeah, I was going to say, you definitely are someone who doesn't get angry easily.
Actually, he would have to become your dad too. No.
No, we don't need an Italian, Max. That's the problem.
We have too many Italians on the Eagles' sideline. It's a combustible situation.
I think maybe they need some wine. Just calm down.
Just have a nice glass of red. Maybe a cigar, get some cigars on the sideline.
I don't know. Big Dom's an important piece of this program, and I believe that he is sorry for his actions last year even though it was bullshit and he should have never been punished.
And I think that he knows that he is important and can't be taken off the sidelines again. So I think it's more of an accountability thing, and Big Dom knows that he is now accountable.
Is it a good thing or is it a bad thing that your head coach is so emotionally fragile that he needs a security guard next to him to keep him calm at all times? But then the fact that it's Big Dom, I kind of understand, because if we had a Big Dom, we need a Big Dom for this podcast. We had a Big Dom.
Puck is our Big Dom. Puck.
Yeah, no, it really is one of those things that we said as a joke, but we were 100% serious at the same time, and we were right. Big Dom was the most important piece of this Eagles.
He's holding that whole project together. Yeah.
He gets shot in the stomach next to the whole esplanade falls apart. I mean, PFT said he's coming on the show.
Yeah, he agreed to come on the show. Yeah, we booked him.
Do you think Big Dom's going to get maybe a little extra sauce, extra gravy? He should. A little box of ziti out of this? He deserves it all.
I agree. He should renegotiate his contract.
It wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if the Eagles and Big Dom moved in other directions from each other just as a Commanders fan. That's how much I fear Big Dom.
Do you think Big Dom, if a team wanted to get Big Dom, how many draft picks would they have to give up?

Fifth rounder?

No, I'd say six.

Six, swap a seventh.

You talk about the Caleb Williams.

I wouldn't take the Caleb Williams.

You wouldn't take Caleb Williams for Big Dom?

Nah.

What a rookie deal.

Nah.

Nah.

Oh, the money, though. I actually, he's not crazy.

Because I want Big Dom, and I would maybe give up the first big one. Yeah, dude, you build around Big Dom.
We got our franchise security guard. Build around Big Dom is a great T-shirt.
It actually is. Build the whole wall out of Big Dom.
Build around Big Dom. Yeah, build the whole airplane out of Big Dom.
You give me 53 Big Doms, I give you aardi is that easy easy and big dom to his credit he did save your franchise quarterback from having a stadium fall on him yeah is he is the franchise quarterback that's a good question he didn't look like himself this year he was hurt uh there's something else going on in sports world that i think we should talk about what watching baseball. Oh, yeah.
Big time. People are big mad about the new baseball uniforms.
Fanatics got cheap. So it's Nike uniforms, and I read an article about it.
I think I understand kind of how it works. Nike gets to design the uniforms.
Then they send them to Fanatics to produce the uniforms. So Fanatics makes them.
They put the Nike swoosh. They do all the uniform specs, and they look cheap now like people are mad players are mad fans are mad mad i just saw today that players are a little bit worried about their balls showing oh he's in the new pants and i saw one picture it was some dude on the giants this is a way to grow the game it might be a way to grow the game for sure uh the only thing while you look it up the only thing i know about this whole story is people were blaming fanatics and then darren revell tweeted right away being like it's not fanatics fault which just made me think it was 100 yeah that was all i don't want darren revell defending you yeah guilty as well it's like if you have a lawyer wearing a cowboy hat yeah like that guy's guilty yeah it was just instant i was like yep fanatics fault okay here we go here's uh casey Big Cat.
Look at this. Just balls.
Oh, those are just two big balls. Just two big balls in these pants.
He looks like Frank Gore. That's the on-dick circle that you can see.
Okay, so they got to figure this out. But this is actually a good, now if I'm going full wrestling brain, this was smart by the MLB because we're talking about them.
That's true. Way to stay relevant, baseball.
Way to stay relevant. Just make some shitty uniforms that have everyone's balls showing.
Vogelback's going to look like Chris Christie at the NYPD softball game. Oh, man, that's going to be a problem.
That's going to be a big problem. I actually can't.
So people are complaining. I wouldn't mind seeing.
Schwarber probably has a really big ball. Oh, he's got a sack on him for sure.
Respectfully, all due respect, I'd knock it out of the park. Jeff Van Gundy.
Don't they wear cups? He's not listening. No.
Jeff Van Gundy? Yeah. Baseball players wear cups though, right? I don't.
Depends on the position. I would definitely wear a cup.
I don't think outfielders don't. I would definitely wear a cup.
Max? No, you don't wear cups. Unless you catch.
Yeah, you're a catcher. Yeah, you don't wear a cup.
I've gotten hit in the balls a couple times playing baseball. I think that's a Little League thing.
You got the, were they the BMGs? Big meaty clackers. Big meaty clackers.
Yeah, because cup is restrictive in running. It kind of is.
Yeah. Yeah, I don't think they wear cups.
But also, yeah, in Little League, you play on fields that have a lot of bad hops. And also, you're just not good enough to stop the ball that's going to hit your balls.
Like, you know, a third baseman is not going to let a ball hit his balls. Yeah, but have you guys seen the actual uniforms, like the tops? Yeah, they're terrible.
The letters are too small. Everybody has seen uniforms that they buy from China, and they arrive, and you're like, well, that doesn't look like the real thing.
Yeah. That's kind of what these are.
Well, it's like, yeah, there's the $150 versions, or you can get the $25 version. Right.
That aren't stitched. Yeah, they're not.
I saw the Mariner's patch on their arm, and it wasn't embroidered. Really? Yeah.
It was ironed on. So it's become such a story now that what's going to happen is people are going to find every single small part that's wrong with the uniform and it'll become another story and then it's just going to snowball and snowball.
And all we want to do is just fucking see how Zion Williamson is the primary ball handler. That's it.
That's it. And now we're out here talking about baseball.
I want to know about the spin rate on Mike Clevenger's two-seamer handler that's it that's it and now we're all sports talking about baseball i want to know about the spin rate on uh mike clevenger's two seamer oh that's a it's a good story though we also had uh johnny manzel with an all-time quote uh did you guys see this when he uh he lost 40 pounds in like three months yeah and and shannon shannon sharp being like how'd you do that and johnny manzel he just was just as honest as possible. Cleveland.
I was 170 pounds sitting in Vegas that August. That September, October, whatever it was later in that year.
How do you lose 40 pounds? You're on a strict diet of blow. That's so great.
Yeah. Fucking strict diet of blow, dude.
What do you want me to say? It's a fact. I hope he's not using it anymore because that is a big problem if you lose 40 pounds.
40 pounds. And you're only like 210 pounds to begin with.
It's like when David Bowie had a whole entire year where he was actually, he had to be fed like a baby. All he drank was milk and hot peppers and cocaine.
Yeah. Yeah.
David Bowie also got so bored with having sex with women that he started banging men. listen sex positive just went through every single hole we're sex positive uh all right before we do hank are you ready for your yeah number five wait can we hold on to that for one second because big i wanted to bring up there's two more things oh okay just real quick the other big storyline uh justin fields he went on the yes brown's podcast yes they asked him about unfollowing the bears on social media i was right he said that he didn't want to see nfl highlights correct he was bored of the bear like he he just doesn't want to see bears highlights when he's going on vacation and he said sometimes the girl that you like the most is the one that you're not following yeah is that true yeah i didn't really understand that part of it i don't follow sydney sweeney that's that.
How many Sydney Sweeney fan accounts do you follow? Wait, so you sought that picture out on your own? No, it was on a fan account. Yeah.
The fan accounts are the horniest. Always.
Correction, I do follow Sydney Sweeney. Sometimes this girl- You know what? I'm going to unfollow her.
Okay, there you go. Yeah.
We'll play a little cat and mouse with her. How do you like that?

That'll get our attention.

Maybe it was a ploy to get the Bears' attention,

because I bet Sidney Sweeney's going to see this and be like,

wait, why did Big Cat unfollow me?

Yeah.

Maybe I should reach out to see if there's a problem.

We also, after everyone freaked out about Justin Fields unfollowing the Bears,

Matt Eberflus debuted a new beard, so got a new coach. He looks totally different.
That's good. He looks like a winning football coach now.
He basically is like, you know what? I know this marriage isn't going well. Let me change something up.
Look at him. Tell me that's not a fucking football coach now.
When did you hire Brad Pitt? I know. Guy is hot.
He's going to win some games. So things are looking up.
Sure. What sure which would rather have big dom or a new beard on your coach new beard on your coach easy easy big down so how many draft picks with big time so bad the other thing was that Charlie Woods he's trying to qualify for a PGA tournament today he got he actually didn't shoot the score he didn't shoot that bad we're pro Charlie we are are charlie he got a delete it but he got a 12 on the seventh without any rebounded with six straight parts yeah that's mental yeah that's what i'm saying like people are talking about the 12 when was the last time you got an octuple bogey and then it's six and then hit six parts in a row i bet you tiger's never done that in his entire life keep your head up charlie facts also if you get a if you get a 12 on a hold that just means you're not good at cheating yeah you get better at cheating yeah yeah no that was listen everyone's trying to bash him no he's the next up you mark that you mark that a nine and then you keep it moving wasn't he qualified he was trying to qualify for a pga event yeah yeah the event i'm calling next week oh okay so there you go that would have been great if charlie woods had been in it yeah you should get an exemption.
Jake, can you give him a Jakey exemption? Charlie Woods, you are playing in next week's event. No, what you should do is you should just randomly just start calling Charlie Woods highlights without anything on the screen.
Here's Charlie Woods. I'll try to work that in.
Yeah. All right.
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Sorry. It's each franchise separate.
So if it were... Do you understand what I'm saying? The Mets would be...
It wouldn't be all New York sports. It would be the Mets.
Oh, got it. Yeah, yeah.
Anyone take a guess for number one? Wait, so it's just one franchise. One franchise, but it goes across all four major sports.
It's ranked. I have a guess.
The worst 25. It's not, no, this is not an insult.
The first. The New York Giants.
No, it was the Jacksonville Jaguars, which kind of shocked me. Yeah, I mean, Chaps always brings out these weird stats about the Jaguars every time they win a game, and it's like, oh, this is the first time since 1999 that they've won eight games in back-to-back seasons.
You're like, what the fuck? Yeah. Show me the Pirates.
Pirates are not on there. They won like 97 games in 2016 or 15 or 98 games, and that was a Schwarber home run.
Jets are number two, Pistons three, Giants four, Browns five.

PFT, unfortunately, we're brothers again.

Bears are nine, Commanders are ten.

It's been tough.

Yeah, Knicks are 11.

The one that was – what was the shocking one?

Oh, the Blackhawks being 25 was pretty shocking

because I guess it has been a while.

Stanley Cups.

Yeah, but it's been a while since that happened and they've been really bad since. The Lakers are 13.
Really? Yeah. They were really bad in between Kobe and LeBron.
A few bad seasons, yeah. Yeah.
But I just saw this, and I was like, oh, that's interesting. Timberwolves were 14, Hank.
That was your first Minnesota team. And then everyone else, I think, was clear except the Wizards are not on there.
We had some good seasons with Paul Pierce and with John Wall. Yeah, the basketball teams are the Pistons at three, the Magic at six, the Lakers at 13, the Timberwolves at 14, Hornets at 20.
That's all the basketball. So you're clear.
I'm surprised the Hornets aren't higher. Yeah.
Yeah, I was a little shocked at this list because the top five made sense, and it really does show the Giants and Jets, two and four. It's pretty bad.
And if you zoom out a little bit on the Giants, obviously the two Super Bowls, awesome. Maybe two of the best Super Bowl wins that you can ever have.
So you've had some good times in there. But besides those, if the Giants aren't winning the Super Bowl,

they're not doing shit that year.

Yeah, it is funny looking at this and being like,

oh, if you've won a title in the last 20 years,

that doesn't mean you'd still take it like the Royals were 24th.

Yeah.

You'd still take it.

Absolutely.

100% would take it.

The Lakers, well, that didn't count.

It was a bubble title.

And the Bears almost won the Super Bowl in 2018. They were just like three games away.
All right, Hank. Number five, Patriot of all time, as reported by Hank Lockwood.
First recap, number six. Number six was defense.
Defense wins championships. He made two crucial plays against the Seahawks, one against the Seahawks, one against the Falcons.
Malcolm Butler. It's Dante Hightower.
Number five, also defense. Oh! Early era, first Dynasty one.
Teddy Bruschi? Swaggiest, probably the swaggiest Patriot, maybe on this whole list. Oh, we already, we already, we already, Brady's house.
Lurman Loi, Ty Law? Ty Law. Ty Law.
All right. Okay, so that's number five.
That's number five. You think he's the swaggiest Patriot? On this list, I think he might be.
Wow. Can we do a top 10 swaggiest? Yeah.
Well, I mean, the Patriots aren't the swaggiest team. That's kind of the whole Patriot way.
Is four going to offense? Four is going to offense. Whoa.
Can't wait for Monday. Devlin.
No. I was trying to put Kevin Falk on this list, but my friends weren't having any of that.
Wait, I thought this was your list. It is.
No, I'm saying. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
For what he meant to the team. Do we have to start over? This whole list started with me being like, I've been fighting with my friends.
Or not fighting, but debating for the last day. But if you wanted to put him on, it's your list.
But they show him. I wish I could put him on his list.
We might have to start over. This feels like Hank's friends list, not Hank's list.
It's my list. He's an honorable mention.
We'll do one member, one honorable mention per show. Kevin Falk is today's.
Honorable mention. What number is he in the honorable mentions? Two.
So ahead of the lighthouse. Because one was...
Who was one? Bethel Johnson. Right.
Okay, so Bethel johnson number one now we're going in reverse in terms of ranking the honorable mention guys okay yeah i'd rather you go 10 to one on the honorable mentions all right i don't know if i have 10 but i can i can add some more so next so so on monday we're going to get the number four patriot of all time and the number 10 honorable mention. It was also just cool when they had a guy named Ty Law and then Lawyer Malloy also in the same backfield.
That's cool. Yeah.
Very cool. All right, Hank, you feel good about that? Yeah, I feel good.
You think people are going to come at you? I was. Well, they don't know what the rest of the list is.
Yeah. I thought he only played in two Super Bowls.
Well, he played in three, but one was 97. But he only played in two.
He only won two Super Bowls. Yeah, he was hurt in 2003.
So number four, I'm going to guess Jules. No, I think we said Jules is three.
No, because I think he's going to go defense three. I think he's going to go like...
Gronk two? Yeah, Gronk's going to be two. It's going to be like either Vince.
Wait, you think Gronk's going to be ahead of Jules? Yeah, I think so. Oh my god, I can't wait for Monday.
I wish someone could knock me over the head right now and I just wake up and it's Sunday night and we're recording the pod. It's going to be either Brewski, Will Fork, or Willie McGinnis at number 3.
When are we going to start going back to seven through ten?

That's when you get to one, then you go to ten.

Okay.

But I want him to go evens first, so ten, eight, and then nine, seven.

JJ wouldn't understand this level of broadcast.

What a teaser.

Who's it going to be? Can you tell us?

Does it go offense, defense, offense, offense? Starting at one? No, starting at four. Starting at four it goes offense, defense, offense.
Yeah, so I think I'm right on the money list. No, I think Jules is going to be...
No, he said defense number three. Yeah, I think Jules is going to be two.
No chance. No chance.
Wow. Hank is playing this from not from a level of friendship, but from a lot of Patriots.
I don't know. Remember when he didn't put Jules on the Mount Rushmore of guests? Yeah, I do remember that.
But in this, if he would be, no matter what, he's on the Mount Rushmore. So what you're doing right now is you're bullying Hank into changing Jules being the number two.
No, Jake has the master list. And this is also what four through one is Mount Rushmore.

So.

True.

Buzz off.

But it's still, there's a difference between two and four.

Big difference.

I don't think so.

Oh, yeah.

Is Chris Long on the list?

Two gets to the BCS.

Four doesn't.

Chris Long is not on the list.

Honorable mention?

I didn't like that he went to the Eagles after, so I don't know. No.
That really, that, like, I'll, you know. He likes Philadelphia more.
Way more. Way more.
Yeah, like, he was kind of playing into him and Lane Johnson being like, they have no fun over there, blah, blah, blah. Yeah.
Yeah, he does kind of hate the Patriots. He's the only person that, like, won a Super Bowl with the Patriots and then beat the Patriots next year in a Super Bowl.
Who else? LeGarrette Blount. He's an honorable mention, though.
Oh, no, no! Don't ruin it! By the way, ranking these one through four, we forgot to mention, I know we said it on Wednesday, the college football playoff, but it's very funny watching Notre Dame fans realize that they're fucked. Yeah, it is.
It's great. It's just been a slow trip.
And then some were coming after me saying they actually wanted this. Why? Guaranteed a home game.
Oh, that's a hell of a spin zone. That's a crazy spin zone.
So if they're the number one team in the country, they're going to want to play a first-round game? No chance. That does kind of rock that you get to go to a home game, though.
But still, no chance. If they're the number one team in the country and they have to now play an extra game.
Right. If you were asked, like, would you rather get an extra home game or be ranked in the top four and get a bye, you would take the bye.
But I think a home playoff game is a pretty good consolation. Yeah, people have been getting their shots in at Notre Dame.
Not relevant, they're saying. Sad to see.
Real sad to see. Should have joined a conference.
Why don't you just pony up and join a conference? Big Ten will maybe take you. Big Ten will take a fucking heartbeat uh okay let's get to our interviews we have great interviews doug mcdermott and then mark titus for doing college basketball preview get you ready for march which is what a week away yeah it's pretty much march oh a week away can't wait we have to wait an extra day because of the leap year a motherfucker but it's the third birthday part of my take my take.
Oh, yeah. Good point.
That's true. We are three.
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It's the second birthday. Yeah, what the fuck? Oh, 12 years old.
We're not 12 years old. I was, like, so confused for a second.
It would be the second. Yeah, because...
No, it's the third. Wait, the pod...
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It is Greg McDermott off of a huge, huge win. Coach, first of all, thanks for joining us.
I wanted to go back quickly to Tuesday night. You beat number one UConn.
Incredible game by your guys. It was also your 600th victory, so congratulations on that.
And you said that it was one of the biggest wins in kind of school history and one of those big like not tide changing wins but one that people will remember we've had a couple we've had 48 hours are we sticking with that yeah I mean it was I I think it was important simply because we've we've had six shots at the number one team in our history and we weren't able to get a win. And to do it against the UConn team that was playing so well, and to your point, really important this time of the year as we move closer to the NCAA tournament and the Big East tournament.
So it just kind of solidifies your resume and hopefully sets you up for seating. But from start to finish, our crowd was absolutely phenomenal.
They were into it from the jump and it was one of the better environments I've ever been part of. Yeah.
By the way, I did a bad job of asking that question because it made it seem like I was expecting you to be like, no, I've looked back and it's not that important. I'm a big believer as a sports fan, a diehard sports fan you have to embrace the the

the ride and those big wins like okay maybe it doesn't end up in the national championship this year hopefully it does for you but fan bases have to enjoy those big moments because those are special nights that you can't just brush off and be like oh it's another Tuesday night in February yeah and it's I mean college basketball is hard and it's you know trying to beat a team like UConn is very difficult. They're elite in so many different ways, offensively, defensively, on the glass.
Obviously, they take on Danny's personality with the way they play and the toughness that they play with. So, yeah, you have to play a hell of a game.
So, when you find a way to beat them, and we've been fortunate we've we've had some success against them but you don't take it for granted because it's it's it's hard to win especially in this league so you go down early they kind of punch you in the mouth right off the bat and I feel like most teams kind of crumble because it's UConn they get intimidated but whether it's coach Hurley or or their reputation what they've done in the past what they've accomplished but you guys bounce back after did you Can you give yourself some credit for like, hey, that's a pretty good job coaching that I did? Yeah, I don't know about that. It was a bad job coaching the first four minutes of the game because we were behind 11 to three.
But I think a lot of it was, you know, Trey Alexander and Ryan Kalkbrenner, you know, Kalk's been here four years, Trey three years. We've had success against UConn.
So a lot of teams haven't. And I think because of the fact that we've had some success in the past and while we got, you know, absolutely spanked at their place, we did some really good things defensively.
We held them to 62 points, their field goal percentage, their effective field goal percentage was not good. We just were atrocious offensively and most of it had to do with them so i don't think our guys were concerned because we've had success with them in the past against them in the past and and you know once we got the crowd in the game you know all all bets were off you know it was a difficult place to play the rest of the night for uconn yeah one last question about uconn and this is a dan hurley question we're friends with dan so with Dan, so full bias out there.
And we have a theory, and I want to know from the opposing coach's box, when he drinks that mushroom tea at the beginning of the game and it looks like he's drinking piss, that's a little intimidating, right? I've always wondered what was in that. It's piss.
It's piss. It's piss.
You know, it's a fun game. And, you know, we've had some great battles with UConn.
But at Creighton, you know, our fans don't come to watch the opposing team play. They come to watch us play.
And that's different than most places. But, you know, Danny does a great job.
And, you know, he's so intense. And, you know, and I'm friends with Danny too.
And, you know, off the floor, he's an awesome guy. And the game starts and he's a little bit psychotic.
But that's who he is and that's how he coaches. And he gets every last bit of energy out of every one of his guys and deserves a lot of credit for the success they've had.
Yeah, and coaches in college basketball especially, because the rosters change year to year. I love guys who stay a while.
You've been at Creighton for a long time. That's what fans start to kind of – the teams take on the image of their coach and you get Greg McDermott going against Danny Hurley every year.
That's fun fun. That, that's what I, that's what I like to tune into.
Yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's fun to develop those rivalries and you know, and you know, we're not, you're not getting anything easy.
You know, we're not getting our, you know, our pet plays against UConn and you know, they're probably not getting theirs against us just because we've coached against each other. We know each other, we know tendencies.
And then at the end of the day, it comes down to players, and that's really what it's all about anyway. If you don't have good players, you're not beating UConn.
If you don't have pretty good players, you're probably not beating Creighton. So it's fun to have some guys that have been in the league a long time, and those rivalries, we certainly, even though we're a long ways apart, I think we've developed a pretty healthy rivalry with UConn.
Yeah, especially in the Big East. It's always been about having coaches with big personalities and the ongoing rivalries that they have and the battles that they go through with each other.
So in terms of the league, the Big East especially, who is your favorite coach to go up against? Whether it's somebody that brings something different out of you or someone where you just enjoy the competition with that person? Yeah, I mean, UConn is certainly one team that I really enjoy competing against because you, you know, you find out if you're doing your job well. But there's so many great coaches in this league.
You know, Ed Cooley is a great friend of mine. That's been well documented.
And so, you know, he bought me dinner in Omaha this year. So it's good when he comes to town because I can send him the check because of that contract he's got over there.
But, you know, across the board from, you know, Sean Miller to Shaka to Thad Mata. And, you know, Shaheen's done a great job at Seton Hall this year.
And right on down the line, it's really a league of really good coaches and a lot of good guys. And for the most part, you know, we get along pretty well.
You know, we're a basketball-centric league, and we're only going to survive if our men's basketball programs are doing well. So it's, you know, a lot of guys have done a lot for this conference.
Yeah, on that point, I know it's been a while. I think it was 2013 you guys joined the Big East, but it's something that is now happening in college sports basically every year where teams are going up, teams are going down, there's all this transition.
What was the biggest hurdle when you went from Missouri Valley to Big East and you took that step up in class? Because we're going to see it many, many more times with teams going up and down, left and right. Yeah, fortunately for us, Big Cat, when we made that move, that was Doug's senior year.
So Grant Gibbs, Doug, Johansmanigot, Ethan Raggi, those guys were seniors. You could have taken that group into any conference in the country and they were going to have a chance to be successful.
And I think it's so important that you have success early and you show that you belong. And I think that group really blazed the trail for what's followed.
And we had a little blip in the radar the next year because the guys that were playing behind that group were recruited to play in the Missouri Valley. And, you know, while we didn't have a great record that year, we got better and some of the younger guys in our program grew.
But, you know, thank God we made the move, you know, in this day and age with what's happening with mid-majors and with the transfer portal and I felt it's difficult. So I think you have to have a have to have a seat at the right table and and you know I'd like to think you know certainly the Big East has done a lot for our institution and our athletic program and I'd like to think that we've added some value there as well but the fact that we were able to get off to a good start finish second in the league the first year get to the get we got beat by Providence in the Big East title game I think had a lot to do with with the trajectory that we've had since.
Yeah, how did you recruit Doug McDermott? You know, he went to Northern Iowa to start. When I was coaching at Iowa State, he actually signed with Northern Iowa.
And then when I came over here, we were in the same conference, and he wasn't excited about playing against me twice a year. But, you know, I sleep with his mom, so that gives me an outside chance.

I was setting you up for that because I hadn't seen you say it.

I knew where you were going.

It's a great line. I got him because I slept with his mom.

Well, it's also I'm going back and looking at it, and there's a rumor out there,

maybe you can dispel it, that he got tens of thousands of free meals before he came to play for you.

He got a lot of that. And actually his senior year, back in the days without any NIL, Grant Gibbs got a six-year of eligibility, and we didn't have a scholarship.
So we put Gibbs on scholarship, and Doug became a walk-on his senior year. So he actually still owes me for that.
Oh, yeah. I paid his tuition his senior year.
You'd think that would come around at some point, but he still hasn't read that check. Interesting.
So I want to go back to maybe a sore memory from last year. You guys made a little run in the tournament, unfortunately didn't end the way that you wanted, against San Diego State, right? And I'm curious from your perspective, do you go back, do you watch that game film? Do you try to erase it from your memory because of the way that it ended? And then moving forward, did you watch the final four or were you just in a place where it's like, I'm so devastated by this.
I don't want to watch college basketball. I finally watched the game on the last recruiting trip in July on the way home.
So recruiting was over for the summer. I was going to go play some golf for a few weeks.
And I'm like, all right, let's exercise this demon and watch that game. You know, and it was a hell of a game.
It could have went either way. And it came down to the very end.
You know, I watched the Final Four. Just, you know, I like hoops.
Brian Dutch was a good friend of mine. Obviously, UConn being in the tournament, you know, I wanted to follow that.
But, you know, it's hard to get on that doorstep and be knocking on that door. A lot of things have to fall right from a matchup perspective, and your team has to play at a high level.
And I hope we'll get back there. I hope we'll have another chance at it at some point during my career.
But I also didn't want it to define what was a very good season by that group of guys last year. So, you know, if I don't want it to – if I don't want the guys to feel like that define the season, then, you know, I can't act that way either.
Yeah, yeah. How often do you practice free throws with your team? Because that's a big thing when I'm watching college hoops.
Like, you've got to make your free throws. And I don't know if you saw, but we did a free throw challenge yeah i mean that was impressive thankful thankfully we shoot them better than you guys wait well hold on we made 41 in a row with the mulligan what what did it take how many hours 16 hours 16 16 a lot of free throws coach 41 i think i mean i mean was frank and was frank involved in that or was he not part of it no frank wasn't very nice to't very nice to me after that Seton Hall game in Jersey.
Listen. Somebody sent me that.
The dude killed me. That's when you know you've made it, though, when Frank the Tank has shown his ire at you.
If you're in sports, it's like, yeah, I finally got on his radar. But, yeah, listen, we 41 free throws in a row.
Do you practice them every single day? Because I hope so. We do.
Okay. Our guys have to make a certain amount of free throws in a row before they leave practice every day.
How many? Sometimes it's eight. Sometimes it's 12.
Sometimes it's 14. Just kind of depends what, you know, where the clock's at at that particular time.
But fortunately, we've knock on wood. I hate to say it, but we've been a pretty good free throw shooting team.

So if PFT and I were on your team, we would actually be your best players

because we'd never leave practice.

We'd just always be a practice.

First in, last out.

How long would it take you guys individually to make 12 in a row?

Well, Big Cat can get hot.

Yeah, I could make 12 in a row.

I'm not what you'd call a basketball player.

So it would probably, if you asked me to make eight in a row,

it would probably take me five, six hours to be able to accomplish that.

But it could get done.

Yeah, it could get done.

That's a guy that's in the gym, though.

Yeah, it could get done.

Well, one other thing that I've seen you do, Coach,

and I'm not sure if you can still do it,

but I saw a video of you dunking at practice.

Can you still dunk?

I haven't tried.

My goal was to do it when I was 50. And I did do it when I was 50.
May or may not have slipped a women's basketball under the rack sometime during practice with the manager of the year. But I was able to get it done.
But now I don't want to blow an Achilles or a hamstring trying to do something stupid at 59. So I've shelved that one.
Well, what about if you win the championship? If you win the Natty, will you try to dunk again to celebrate? I will. I will do that.
Okay. If we win it.
I like that. Yeah.
You can come to our – we'll host you and we'll have a big, you know – Done. Greg McDermott dunk off.
Done. Yeah.
All right. So now we might now we might be rooting for you we're gonna need an elite physical therapist to do some stretching before and after we can get you we can get it there yeah get it yeah um how many times you've had mcdonald's with warren buffett uh never what but you you see uh you know you see warren, you know, you see Warren in a restaurant in Omaha once in a while.

Uh, he was, uh, he doesn't come around a lot to games, but he was, uh, he was at Doug's

senior night.

He was very upset with the official that called that foul against us on San Diego state last

year.

Uh, and he made it, he made it well known, but, uh, obviously he's, uh, he's done a lot

for this community.

Yeah.

It would be great if you went out to eat with him and you picked up the check that would be such a power move wouldn't it yeah that would that'd be a big time power move yeah yeah sure if i saw him eating in a restaurant i just i just point across the table i'd be like hey i want to cover that guy's bill i got his yeah yeah so going back to uh doug real quick we see it obviously all the time in college basketball a lot of times lot of times the coach will have their son on the team, but very few times you guys have the success that you guys had together. Was it hard coaching your son and kind of balancing that where it's like he's one of the guys, but he's also your son, and maybe there's moments where you're sitting there watching the game and you're just proud of your son.
But you're like, wait, I'm coaching a Big East basketball team. I've got to snap out of it.
Yeah, you know, there were some things the first year that were challenging. I think more so for Doug than probably for me.
It was very important to him that he was treated like one of the guys. And, you know, I remember a specific time one of his teammates telling me that after a really hard practice, you know, he walks in the locker room and all of a sudden everything goes silent.
And Doug's like, now, wait a second. You know, I think he's an asshole, too, for what went on today.
I'm with you guys. But, you know, when Doug asked me and said that, you know, Dad, I want to be treated like everybody else.
I said, I can do that. But when I tell you to block out, you can't look at me like I told you to take the garbage out and you don't want to do it.
Like if this is going to be coach and player, then it has to be that from your perspective, too. And it was a challenge for Doug because for the first 18 years of his life, my voice was his father's voice.
And then all of a sudden it's his coach's voice. And, you know, because in college coaching, you don't have an opportunity to coach your kid in junior high and AU, you know, you're doing your job.
So I didn't really coach Doug much outside of driveway stuff until he got to college. But once we got to that point, it was great.
And NBA scouts that came in and watched us play, watched us practice when he was a junior and senior, they'd said many times, if we didn't know it, there's no way we'd know your father and son by watching you interact in practice. That's the way he wanted it.
That's the way I wanted it. And obviously, it was a really special time.
I probably didn't embrace it and enjoy it as much when it was going on because you're in the grind. But looking back on it for both of us, it was a pretty special time.
Yeah. When he got the nickname Dougie McBuckets, were you like, that's a cool nickname or were you like, chill out with the nickname, son? You haven't heard anything yet.
That's a pretty good, that's a pretty cool nickname. And, you know, and I get called from high school, more high school coaches, but some college coaches have called me as well that were contemplating coaching their kid.
And obviously it's different in high school because he goes home with you every night and you're at the dinner table every night. But it's easy if he's your best player or a guy that doesn't play very much.
People got pissed off if I took him out of the game at Creighton. that was never never really a problem yeah I have an x's nose question for you this kind of goes back to UConn but when you have a team that can shoot well from the outside how do you how do you make them worse at shooting because it seems like it's something very difficult to do that a lot of coaches try to do but very few can accomplish you know we're trying to limit the amount of three-point shots teams get.
You know, everybody has a defensive philosophy, and, you know, UConn's going to pressure you. They're going to try to force you into turnovers, and obviously it works really well for them.
We try to send everything to Ryan Kalkbrenner at the rim and try to, you know, make sure their best shooters aren't getting a lot of looks from the three-point line, and I think they're, you know think Caravan and Spencer, their two best shooters the other night, only had five three-point attempts. So that's what we're trying to do.
And obviously, we spend a lot of time in practice running guys off the line and making sure you're not getting hit by screens to try to accomplish that. And some games it works better than others, but fortunately for us the other night, it worked really well.
Yeah, I like the word philosophy too. It's kind of like culture, but every coach has their different philosophy on, you know, how to build a team and how to play.
What would your philosophy be if you were to distill it down to like one thing about basketball? Well, it's, I mean, offensively, it's freedom, you know. I like that.
You know, we'll do a lot of different gimmicky stuff defensively, how we guard a ball screen, what we're going to do. We'll go over a screen on one guy, under a screen on another.
But offensively, our guys have the freedom to play and the freedom to shoot. We take some crazy shots from six feet behind the line at times, but we also practice those shots.

So, you know, and everybody recruits to how they're trying to play.

We want guys that can really shoot the basketball, that can handle it,

that can pass it, and that, you know, have a good basketball IQ,

and that's what we've been successful with,

and that's what we'll continue to try to do moving forward.

Yeah, so speaking of freedom, how many shots in a row does a guy have to make to allow him a really terrible heat check shot? It depends who it is. Yeah, that makes sense.
You know, Stephen Ashworth had a great start to the game the other night. You know, the transfer from Utah State.
He's played awesome here the last, you know, 10 or 12 games. But I had him do a drill in practice that I talked about in the postgame the other night that I used to have Doug do where you have to make five in a row or five shots from five spots.
And if you miss two in a row, you have to go back to the beginning and start again. And he made 33 in a row.
And so he said, what should I do now? Am I done? And I'm like, no, if you're going to shoot those crazy shots eight feet behind the line in games, let's back up and practice some of those. And he had a couple bombs the other night.
But our guys have a lot of freedom. They know it.
And I think it does something to the opposing defense when they know that a guy can pull from 28 feet anytime they want. I mean, that puts a little bit more pressure on our opponent's defense.
Okay. So counterpoint to that question, if you have a guy that has – how many shots in a row does a guy have to miss before you're like, hey, you know, there's limits to our freedom here.
We need to reel in some of this freedom. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, there's the old coaching saying that the last thing you want to do is tell a bad shooter to shoot. But, you know, if our guys – if they can shoot it, you know, and a lot of times you have to talk guys off the ledge and remind them that, you know, the best shooters in the world, you know, miss over half their shots.
You know, my son is one of, you know, top 10 or 15 three-point percentage shooter in NBA history, and that's at like 41%. So, he's six out of ten so um there it that doesn't mean you make you know two out of every five you're going to go six of seven and then you're going to go one of seven it just happens um but you trust your work you trust your preparation um the other side of me is is if you know if a guy like Baylor Shiderman is missed five in a row I like his chances on the sixth sixth one that he's going to knock the next one down.
Yeah. What's the fastest you've ever pulled a guy out of a game? Because I love old school college basketball coaches.
Yeah. It's been seconds before.
Really? I love it. Yeah.
I mean, it's been a while, but something stupid happens on the first play that you've gone through a hundred times and a guy screws it up. It's, you know, let's get him out of there.
That's one of my favorite. I'm a Badger fan, and Bo Ryan used to do that all the time where he would just, like, you'd be 20 seconds into a game and someone would get yanked.
And you'd be like, all right. Yeah, Bo didn't mess around.
I knew Bo and I have known each other since his division three days. So, yeah, he didn't mess around.
Yeah, I like that move. What do you tell the guy when he gets pulled? He's a starter and he gets pulled like 10 seconds into the game.
You just sit him down and you're like, hey, we've been over this. You're like, what are you doing? If that happens, you don't have to say a word.
Yeah. Message received.
Yeah, he knows what he did. He knows exactly why he's coming out.
Yeah. Yeah.
so um i guess it's a tough question to ask and uh i'm i'm curious to know if you're going to actually answer what is the expectation for you in this postseason this year well i mean the first thing is you got to get you got to get there and you know there's teams that are that have high expectations going into season and they don't, it doesn't work out and they don't, they don't make the tournament. So we're always gearing ourselves to play our best at the end of the year and build towards February and March.
Make sure your, your body's healthy, your, their minds in a good spot. You know, and the NCAA tournament is so much about matchups.
And, you know, everybody talks about seeding. Seeding to me doesn't mean much unless you get to play, you know, close to your backyard.
But it's about matchups. So, you know, I know that the guys that decided to come back, you know, Baylor Shireman came back for his fifth year.
Alexander and Kalkbrenner tested the NBA waters last year and decided to come back. You know, they want to get back to that game.
They want to get back to that moment and have a chance to try to knock the door down and get to the final four in the first time in Creighton history. So I know that's what they're thinking.
I'm thinking about the next game and the next play. I think as a coach, if you think any other way, you're asking for trouble.
So do you guys pay attention to Ken Palm at all? Any guys in your office? Yeah, you know, my staff's looking at that all the time. And, you know, because it measures a lot of the things that at the end of the day, analytically, we're trying to measure anyway.
You know, how are we performing in comparison to our peers? And, you know, it also gives us some information on, you know, what percentage of our shots are three-point shots. Is it what we want it to be? And on the other side, are we making sure our opponents aren't shooting a high percentage there? You know, we don't force turnovers.
We don't shoot a lot of free throws, but we don't foul, so our opponents don't either. So those are things that we're constantly looking at.
Well, I got some good Ken Palm stats for you. All right, this is going to be good.
You can tell to the guys. So I saw this the other day.
It's as of Tuesday. According to Ken Palm, the last 20 national champions have all been top 25 in adjusted efficiency margin, top 37 in adjusted offensive efficiency, top 38 in adjusted defensive efficiency, top 45 in strength of schedule rating.
This is as of Tuesday. The teams that follow under those categories are Purdue, Arizona, Tennessee, North Carolina, Marquette, Michigan State, and Creighton.
So you're in there. As of right now, you have the balance of the team you know both offense and defense and played a very good schedule I don't know I you could tell your guys that maybe you don't want to you know maybe you want to do what you just did saying hopefully we get into the tournament I'm news I'm gonna break some news to you you're gonna be in the tournament uh but that's kind of cool yeah it sounds like if they get any coaching they're're going to be in good shape.
Yeah. Yeah.
Now it's up to you.

You have the guys.

No pressure.

Try not to screw it up.

Yeah.

Try not to screw it up.

Stay out of their way.

Yeah.

So here's an easy question for you.

What city would you like to retire in more?

Omaha or Columbus, Ohio?

What do you think is a better retirement destination?

That's a cagey question.

Yeah. You know, I live on a golf course here in Omaha.
So, uh, uh, and I like the golf course. So, uh, you know, it'd probably be Omaha.
Okay. Okay.
Good answer. That's a good answer.
Good answer. Uh, I have one last question for you, coach.
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I think I know the answer to this, but maybe you can explain it. I love college hoops.
I actually love the first two days of March Madness, but Conference Championship Week is my favorite. How much more difficult is Conference Championship Week than the actual tournament? Because it feels like every year, that's when it's like, all these teams know each other, back-to-back games.
It's the toughest as tough you get. What is the preparation when you're going into the Big East tournament versus March Madness? Yeah, I mean, to your point, it's so difficult because there you know, there are no secrets, you know, and it's, you know, hopefully you don't play in that first night.
It's three games in three days without a chance to breathe in between and against teams that really know you. And in our league, you know, and I turn on some of the other conference tournaments when you're sitting around like the garden is jammed.

It is packed. It is an incredible environment.
Especially if we're playing somebody from the East coast, it's, it's a, it's a hard environment. You're essentially playing a road game.
But it's a, you know, it's really, really challenging, but it's also really special and you can you really sense it. You know how important the Big East tournament is to the schools in the Big East, you know, that to actually try to win that tournament.
I think some conference tournaments, why they're important, you know, they're kind of looking ahead to the NCAA tournament. But in the Big East, it's, you know, it's huge to have an opportunity to win that.
And, you know, we played in it nine years because one year got wiped out by COVID. At least we played a half in that year, but, and we've been in the championship four times and just haven't won it.
So for us, you know, we'd like to knock that door. Yeah.
We've talked to a couple of biggies coaches about that tournament. And I'm always curious to know, like, do you, do you hold anything back at all? Or is it just like, let's go full send during the tournament and then we'll regroup and and figure out what we want to do for the for the round 68 no all you gotta do is watch a game it's so high level and uh everybody's trying to win i don't think there's anybody holding in in anything back and you know even villanova i think their national championship teams i think they won the big east tournament both of those years.
And, you know, UConn got beat, I believe, in the semis last year. But it's, you know, it's hard basketball, but it's also an incredible, incredible experience for the young guys to get an opportunity to play in it, especially in the Garden and the Big East tournament.
Yeah, I love it. I love it.
There's no better time than March. Coach, thank you so much.
Listen, if my team can't win, maybe I'm rooting for you to come to our office and dunk one last dunk. I think you can dunk.
I think you can do it. I've seen you running up and down the sidelines.
I think that you've still got some bounce of those legs. Yeah, if I'm chasing a referee, maybe I have a little more adrenaline at that point.
But guys, if we get there, I'll be there. I appreciate it.
Okay, we can get a ref for you that you can chase around. We'll get someone in a ref and just yell at you, and then you can chase them and dunk.
But thanks so much, Coach. Best of luck the rest of the season.
I appreciate it, guys. Thank you.
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And now for something completely different. Okay.
It's time for some college basketball talk. We have our colleague.
Whoa. Which is not weird to say anymore, but it is probably maybe a little weird for AWLs because we haven't had you on since I think it's been a year.
I think it's been around a year because you've been at Barstool for almost a year. Yeah, I think I came on right when I signed on.
Yeah, so it is Mark Titus. We can't have him on more frequently than that given his outbursts in the past.
Yeah, all the comments. The things that we've had to bleep out after the fact.
Yeah, it's easier to book him now. It could just be like, hey, you want to come on? And it's been almost a year, so we basically hired you because we're like, at some point we're going to have to do a free throw challenge.
We've done that, so unfortunately I'm going to be here to tell you that your contract is going to expire and you're not going to be renewed. Bring you back like Mantis for a day next time we need you.
we learned we learned that we don't we don't actually need you as badly as we thought we have mantis now yeah you walk in we'll be like that boy's straight yeah yeah yeah so so uh that was i you've had a lot of welcome to barstools i i the the first your first week here was the first week of march madness yeah and uh i remember so vividly walking into you in your studio in the old New York office and you had, it looked like you had just come back from Vietnam. You had a million mile stare and I was just like, you're right, dude.
And he's like, that was just a lot. And I was like, you should go home to LA for a couple of days.
But now that you're comfortable, it's not a bad place, right? um I I I absolutely love it it's been it's been awesome the free throw stream was so fun I I did I mean you said this too that like I I went home I was exhausted I went to bed immediately slept forever I woke up and the first thought I had was I want to get back on the line yeah with the boys yeah yeah um no this place is incredible incredible. It's like every day is a circus in a good way.
But yeah, there was an adjustment period and getting thrown into the gambling cave out of the start was very difficult because, yeah, my memory was like day one, Dave asked me for a pick. I kind of, I didn't even, yeah, I don't watch basketball in that way, so I was just kind of like, I don't fucking know.
Kentucky, I guess? I think Kentucky played Kansas State, and they won. Yeah.
And then I went home. I went back to the hotel, and I was like, thank fucking God that's over.
And then the very next morning, I was in line at Starbucks, and Dave was behind me, and he's like, Titus. And I was like, oh, what's i was waiting for like the pat on the back and he just goes give me another pick i was like fuck i was like oh fuck again yeah dude it's day two yeah another one then you're his guy and that's a dangerous place to be because you can get you can get the axe immediately right you're on the radar i'll be better prepared this year yeah so we were watching uh day one of march madness last year and there was a lot on.
There were a lot of games. You went through some ups and downs right off the bat.
I don't think you'd been in a gambling environment like that before. What adjustments are you going to make for this year's March Madness? I'm going to be more aware of spreads.
That was something that I... It's already hard enough trying to decide who's going to win these games.
Yeah. But I'm gonna be more in tune with that um i i also learned that like nobody actually yeah i don't know it was it was difficult because nobody gave a fuck about the basketball everybody was just like like uh watch it like uh big ev and i got into a little uh dust up one thing i i have a memory of that because he he was just screaming like how how do you call that fucking foul and then i just like in retrospect i shouldn't have but i was like i mean evy he hit him right on the arm as he was shooting he's like i know that but i don't give a fuck how do you cut you know there's no rash i realized like ah okay so we're we're kind of approaching this a little differently um yeah i don't know i guess i'm just gonna gamble heavily yeah that's maybe that's i just gotta i gotta get into the trenches with the boys.
It's like if you can't beat them, join them. Yeah.
You know? So just, yeah, you'll become one of those people eventually. You'll become everything you hate, Mark.
Yeah. So let's talk some college basketball.
This has been a very fun season. It feels like very wide open, kind of similar to last year.
UConn is the best team, you would say, right now. But they just lost to Creon by a billion um what what are your big picture thoughts going into the conference championship week and and uh the tournament for someone who maybe doesn't watch college basketball is trying to catch up i think i want to kind of say everyone sucks but that's not a good way to get people into the sport or not everyone sucks yeah i think everyone sucks on the road.
Everyone sucks on the road.

That's the thing.

That's hard because, like, you want to get excited about teams, but then even Kentucky's a good example.

It's like Kentucky goes to Auburn, a very hard place to win.

They looked awesome.

And you're like, oh, my God.

I've gotten to a point where I only almost look at road performances

because the home court will lie to you.

So Kentucky looks awesome at Auburn. I talked myself into them, and then last night they looked like dog shit against LSU.
So, yeah, not everybody sucks. It's just everybody has very obvious weaknesses.
And a week ago it was Purdue and UConn and everybody else. And now, I mean, Purdue loses at a bad Ohio State against a bad Ohio State team, UConn got blown out at Creighton.

That was due.

I felt like it was due.

And they needed that.

I think when UConn beat the hell out of Marquette,

the conversations about, like, is this team better than last year,

way too premature for them.

Yeah.

And I think, like, that was rat poison.

Is it Saban that's up?

Yes, rat poison.

Yeah, that was rat poison.

Yeah, but you're right. I mean, the road games are tough.
Kentucky's a good example. I mean, that was an incredible ending where they finally, Kentucky finally hit a big shot at the end of a game, and then they just stopped playing defense, which they never really started playing defense this year.
No. I don't think they've ever been like, let's start playing defense.
Right. They just started the season, and they oh, yeah, there's other half of this game.
Whatever. Is Cal on the hot seat for real this time? Oh, dude.
I mean, it actually feels like it might be for real. At some point, the meme becomes the reality.
Yeah. They're not going to fire him.
He has a lifetime contract, so I think they have to kill him. think they have to do that they have to actually execute him yeah um but yeah i mean like it does feel like there might be a conversation where they're like cal are you sure you want to do this still how much longer do you want to live yeah uh there might be a friendly nudge they might try but i think the ad loves them i don't know the kent Kentucky fans are absolutely ready for a change, though.
Absolutely. It also hurts that this is a very talented Kentucky team, and then they have Reed Shepard, their point guard, who's from Kentucky, who's like every Kentucky fan's wet dream, where he's really good, and they're like, this should be everything, and they just don't play defense.
This feels like it should be a vintage Cal team, the last couple years, they haven't even been that bad the last few years, to be honest. They lose to St.
Peter's, which is very, very bad, but they were a two seed. I think when you look back on the last few years of Kentucky, it feels like they were like 500 the last few years.
They haven't been that. They've been good.
They just haven't been Kentucky good, and then they fuck it up in the tournament um but cow went away from like what made his teams good which is like the one and done stuff and like i'm just gonna overwhelm you with talent and he started going to the transfer portal and he's getting oscar shibwe and shavir wheeler and guys like that that didn't really work out for him he hit a hard reset and this team is all guard oriented they're all young dudes that are going to be like nba players he has like five future nba players on this team probably yeah um if not more than that probably more than that uh everything about it feels like a vintage john calipari team so if he fucks this up like i mean you're kind of out of like i don't know if excuses but you're out of like paths for him to get it back like if he fuck this up, he's completely lost the magic. And it will be, I mean, it's already been a decade, but it's like we're on 12, 13 years since they won a title.
What is a fuck-up for him this year? Like, he has to do what? The Sweet 16, Final Four? I mean, I would have thought if they should be competing in the SEC. There's kind of, I mean, the SEC's good, so I don't want to say there's no excuse for them not to win the league, but the fact that they're not even going to come close to winning the league is crazy.
They have to make at least the Sweet 16. Yeah.
At least. And they're not.
I mean, they're not. I don't think they're going.
And if they get spanked in the Sweet 16, then it's like he fucked us up. Right, right.
And I guess that's the hard part when evaluating this stuff is you always move the goalposts. Yeah.
He loses to the national championship by five, and you're like, fucked it up. Fucked it up, right.
And I guess that's the hard part when evaluating this stuff is you always move the goalposts. And, you know, he loses to the national championship by five and you're like, fucked it up.
Fucked it up. Right.
We're supposed to be Kentucky. Right.
What about Purdue? Talk to me about Purdue. I think there's nothing in sports that you enjoy more than Purdue losing.
Purdue losing at the right time. Yeah.
Yeah. Purdue's a sick joke to me and Titus today, this year, because they're the only team that can win it all from the Big Ten.
Right. We've been talking about the Big Ten forever needing a national title.
It's going to hurt us. So can they win it all or are they going to fuck it up? They can win it all.
I think this Purdue team is better than last year. The guard play has – first of all, their guards are older.
The two white kids that were freshmen last year, they are older and they're way better. Like Braden Smith last year was like a game manager more, and now he's actually a stud.
And then Lance Jones, the kid they got in the transfer portal, is fucking awesome. So I do think that Purdue is going to make a Final Four.
I think they're better. But what worries me about Purdue is they just can't resist being Purdue, and I don't mean that as a LOL Purdue meme.
Watching them against Ohio State, they're one of the best three-point shooting teams in the country now. Last year they couldn't shoot for shit.
Now they can. They're hitting threes.
They shot nine threes against Ohio State because they just cannot resist just trying to dump it into E.D. over and over.
Edie's awesome, but I don't know what their plan B. They don't give you confidence that they have a great plan B, and that's what worries me about Purdue.
Purdue's good, though, this year. They're better than they have been in these horrific exits.
And the reason why I know this is because it's shifted now to, you know, last year it was like, well, their guards are so young. Like, are they going to be able to stand up? And they obviously didn't.
It's basically like wait until Zach Eadie gets officiated different in March Madness. Right.
That is a sign that it's like, oh, they actually are pretty good. They are good.
Yeah, right. No, they are good.
We're clinging to that. They can definitely win a national championship.
I just, yeah, like it's, you know, Ohio State thing is one game and, you know, you don't want to put too much stock in one game. And they have been awesome all year.
But, yeah, I do worry that that's just like they just become so ED dominant that the rest of the guys are just staying around watching. But they are good.
They are legitimately – they address their problems in the offseason.

I just – like when push comes to shove

and assholes start getting tight in the NCAA tournament game,

they're just going to revert back to what they know,

which is dumping it into the post, which is great.

But, you know, it's a guard-oriented game in March, and teams will –

like that's what – Fairly Dickinson did that to him.

We were laughing at Dave. Yeah, in the family cave, but Dave just kept yelling they're too small.
That's exactly what happened. And I still think the recipe to beat Purdue is the exact same, even though they've gotten a little better.
And everybody knows that. Like that's the other thing that worries me about that is like every single team knows how to beat Purdue.
There's going to be no – you don't need like the turnaround of scout of like, oh, fuck, we're playing Purdue. What do they do? What are their tendencies? I feel like every team in the country knows how to beat them.
But the good thing for Purdue fans is executing that is going to be difficult. Best league in the country, Big 12? Yeah, the Big 12 is the best, but I don't find it the most interesting.
I think the Big East and the SEC. Well, it's because Houston is at the top.
It feels like they're not yet Big 12. And they're great, but they're hard to watch.
To watch the Iowa State. Yes.
They're hard to watch. Both those teams are really good.
I kind of love that game, though, because they were just beating the fuck out of each other. Yeah, they were.
But I think that is why the big 12 like it is the best conference but when it's Houston instead of Kansas up top it just feels different and that's I know Houston fans get mad about that but it's just the facts yeah I'm still trying to make sense of Houston because I their defense is unbelievable they're so good um but yeah I the Jamal Shedd is awesome and and and Crier's great like I I their guards. Their guards are – it's going to be interesting because I wonder how much offense they can generate.
I wonder if Shed and Cryer are guys that you can – that can just pull something out of their ass offensively when they need to in March. And I don't know if they are, but they could – I could see them being that.
could see them being that. It's really – I don't know.
They're like right at the line for me of like how talented you need your guards to be offensively. Defensively, they're fucking incredible.
But like the Houston flame out in the tournament feels like they lost a game like 53 to 49. Right.
They couldn't score, but they played great defense. Right.
I'll rebound them by like 20 rebounds. Yeah.
Still can't get a shot. Yeah.
Like, it's just a disgusting game. They go like 21% from three.
Yeah. But they still take – they took like 20 of them because they're like, we're desperate.
Right. Right.
Yeah. Right.
But, no, I like Houston a lot, and I think the fact that they went to the Big 12 is going to help them immensely, obviously, because they're in a tough conference, and they're playing well. What I do love is there's so many fans that are fans of teams in the Big 12 that kept saying to Houston, like, just wait until you play in a real conference.
Just wait. Just wait until 2024.
You're going to feel what real basketball is like, and they come in, they're still really fucking good. They're like, we're going to win your league.
Yeah. I respect that.
What about Texas? Do you have a chance? Also, why is his name pronounced Ace-mas? I don't know. I never understood that.
He's really fucking good. Yeah, he is.
So he can tell you how to pronounce his name whatever way he wants, but A-B, how does that make the sound Ace-mas? I've never really understood that. I don't know.
The problem with the Big 12 for me is there are a lot of teams that but but it's that way kind of across all college basketball because like there are good teams certainly and texas is one of them but i no i don't think texas is going to a final four winning like they're not a serious national title contender um yeah they're in the middle of their yeah yeah and like all those teams are kind of that way like i don't i would say houston's really the only team only team I think has a shot at winning. Iowa State fans won't want to hear that.
Kansas is supposed to be good, but I think even Kansas fans kind of realize that this team's not it. And the rest of the teams are good, and the Big 12 is more of like a numbers game where it's like we're not going to win the national championship

but we are going to have five teams in the lead eight yeah you're going to have to respect us because we we just like overwhelm you with how many good teams we have but then when you look up like none of those teams are actually winning the national championship houston could though yeah yeah i mean i yeah the big 12 is and they are tcu tcu is another team i like but like i I don't think they're –

TCU –

Dixon really screwed us because we went and did a TCU college football show, and we had him on, and he was like, we're going to run like the Showtime Lakers. I was like, oh, fuck, I'm going to bet the over in every single one of their games.
And they do run, but they don't make shots like the Show lakers so i've lost a lot of there's a guy jordan sperber who does awesome uh breakdowns uh if you're like a basketball geek and want to see like x's and o's stuff he's like a film nut but he uh that only got 54 000 views yeah yeah what a what a great humble brag by jj reddick yeah i mean like This boring thing, it only got $450,000. I feel his pain because I'm the smartest fucking guy in the world, and I prove it on my show over and over and over again.
I think the reason my show isn't the number one sports podcast is because I'm probably too smart. You're too smart.
I'm too smart for the average fan. Fans don't want it.
Yeah. I got to double down.
You can do X's and O's, or you can get Cat Williams to come on a show and call everyone in Hollywood gay, and then you get 60 million views. Wait, so what were you saying about that? I was saying Sperber always puts together, he takes the intro press conferences when coaches get hired in the offseason.
Literally every single coach says, we're going to push pace. We're going to run and gun.
We're going to, yeah. And then he oftentimes will do an update and be like, here's their pace actually.
Here's what their offense is actually doing. But every single intro press conference, the coach is like, one of the tenets of our program, we're going to push it.
We're going to get good shots. We're going to put points on the board.
And then reality hits. Yeah, that's a fact.
All right, so let's talk about the big east real quick because uh max over there villanova oh they they are we're running this tomorrow it you can't have a worse setup than villanova being like starting to play some good basketball max had talked himself into the yukon game now it's game day is in stores they're coming off a 20 point loss where Danny Hurley was like, I coached bad. The players played bad.
And now Villanova has to go play there. And Danny Hurley's releasing Game of Thrones gifts.
Yeah. Videos.
This feels like an ass kick. It's going to be a fucking biblical ass kicking for Max and Villanova.
Are you in on our Nova Max? I can't. Oh, yeah.
I go with whatever way the last game goes. That's a true fan.
I'm all in or all out after every single game. And the last three games, double-digit wins.
Or three wins by double-digit points. Yeah, and now you've got to go play UConn.
So, is there a team in the Big East besides UConn and we'll say Creighton as well? Yeah. We have Greg McDermott on this show who can make a deep run.
Marquette, obviously. I think Marquette's – I don't know.
Maybe that's just because of the Badgers. Because of the Badgers.
And I don't think the Badgers are that good. Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know. Seton Hall's been great.

It won't happen, though, because of Frank.

Yeah.

And Frank's not allowed to have happiness.

Seton Hall's like an auto bet at home type of team.

Yeah.

I'm drinking the Butler Kool-Aid.

They're on the bubble.

Oh, why?

Who's their coach?

Who is their coach?

Yeah, look it up.

Oh, who is their coach?

Do you know their coach?

You don't know their coach, do they? Do you know their coach? Nova's the fourth best. Oh, it's Thad Mata.
Oh, that's weird. Oh, where'd he coach? Oh, well, good for him.
I didn't realize that. I was drinking the Butter Kool-Aid, but now I'm really drinking the Kool-Aid.
Yeah. They're so fun to watch.
They won at Creighton and at Marquette. Yeah.
We're talking about, like, you want to see teams that go win on the road. They won.
They have two impressive road wins. Villanova could do something.
They're the fourth best team in the Big East. Yeah, you're probably right.
When they're at their best. Yeah, there's a fall off.
It's something to be proud of. I mean, there's a fall.
They've looked like the third worst team in the Big East for a lot of the year.

But talent-wise, they're at least the fourth best team in the Big East.

Talent-wise.

Talent-wise.

Yeah, the Big East is the most fun league to me, I think.

Well, it's all basketball.

Yeah, it's just pure basketball.

The fans are obsessed.

It's all they care about. The coaches are incredible characters through and through.
Yeah, and I do think a lot of these teams can go on. Bias aside, I do think Butler, I do think that they're not going to go to Final Four.
That was bias included. I don't know what you mean by a deep run, but yeah, Butler could make the Sweet 16.
Butler, bias aside, may not make the tournament. No, I know that.
Right, that would be the bias aside. There's a team.
They're going to make the tournament. Are they? Yeah, they'll make the tournament.
But there's a team every year that plays in the play-in that makes a little run. Yeah, no, you're right.
Every year there's a team that's on the bubble that makes a run. I'm saying brother could be that team.
Their last four in right now according to Lenardi. They'll make it in.
Okay. Can I say something about the play-in? I've decided I hate the play-in.
Why's that? I don't like it because it's an afterthought, even though it comes before. I don't like the play-in at all.
I think I want my tournament to start on Thursday. I like it being clean Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
The teams don't get the shine if they play in the play, and nobody remembers if you play in the play and lose. I understand why they want more teams in there.
They want to be able to throw some 16 seeds in and get them out of the way. It just are some teams that won their conference tournament that they don't want to give shine to on a Thursday.
If they called it the play-in and you didn't actually get an NCAA tournament, you didn't get to put on a banner in your arena, like NCAA tournament appearances. You didn't get to put that on there unless you won the play-in i'm fine with that if it was truly like this is not the ncaa tournament yes this is this is purely a play-in the tournament starts on thursday but we're still going to keep the exact same format we're just going to rebrand it yeah the games can stay like i'm not in favor of i like more sports on tv yeah yeah but if you just do if you have like four at large teams that play on that wednesday you don't call it the tournament.
But if you win, you get in the tournament. I'm fine with that.
68 isn't as cool. 64 is a way better number when it comes to a bracket.
I like to play in because it's an appetizer. It gets you warmed up.
And I also think that UCLA kind of legitimized the play-in when they went to the Final Four from the play-in. That was Like that was it.
Right. I'm happy they got in.
You know, like we need the play-in. So I just, I like the appetizer.
It gets me warmed up. I do think that this idea that we're going to have like whatever the number is.
96, 100. I hate that.
That sucks. 64 is the perfect number.
And I agree, like with UCLA, they could have played in that as an at-large. And yeah, you get into the tournament that way.
It would be fun. I just, I don't like the number 68.
I feel like 64 is way better. Yeah.
Yeah, I agree. I guess you could just like not watch until Thursday morning.
Not an option. Yeah.
That's true. That's why I like it because I'll always watch it.
You put it on TV, I'm going to watch it. And it also feels like, ooh, nice.
This team could get, who else did it? I don't know why I said that because it isn't an option. Yeah say the same shit sometimes like people will say the same shit to me about like I'm like I hate watching like I don't feel this way about Houston but if you find Houston basketball disgusting and you're just like I fucking I can't watch this kind of basketball people will say well just don't watch it's like I mean I have to watch yeah you also have to realize that I'm not gonna watch one of the best teams in the country yeah the plan is objectively hilarious for the teams that do lose, like Brandon Walker's Mississippi State last year.
He didn't make the tournament. TJ, the Rutgers lost a few years ago.
They didn't make the tournament. You get to do that with your friends.
You weren't really in the tournament. So I love the play-in.
I do like the play-in. I do think that it should be official, though.
I do think that Mississippi State last year should have officially not made the tournament. Right.
I'm fine just like the idea that they should keep it. You can basically play like the plan is basically a choose your own adventure where it's like the losing teams you can be like yeah they didn't make it.
There's always somebody that argues that we should not make the 16s play but I think the 16s want to play. Yeah.
That's another thing. They get a chance to win a tournament game.
Right. That's cool.
Like, they don't – otherwise – and I get it.

They want to play against a one seed. That's cool.
But, like, I don't know. I like the playing.
I'm a big fan of the playing. All right.
Pac-12, real quick. Arizona, swan song.
Arizona's for real. Arizona is for real.
They play Washington State tonight. Yeah, it should be a great game.
Washington State's second-best team in the Pac-12. Yeah12 yeah um is there a chance though that Tommy Lloyd spent a little too much time with Mark Few and he's always going to be just close enough I know he's got a little too much Mark Few well Arizona uh Purdue losing last year is the greatest thing that happened to Tommy Lloyd yeah nobody remembers that Arizona lost to Princeton yeah yeah no you're right they were the two seed right yeah he's he's been he's also he is starting to get into that range of like I think that's why he lost some of these games this year because Arizona is they are very good their national title good in the final fours in Phoenix which is an interesting wrinkle um and the Pac-12 having its last year like there's a lot of stars aligning for the Arizona redemption uh but i think uh they're not having quite as good of a year as they probably should be and i think that might be on purpose because tommy lloyd was getting way too many of those graphics that are like this is the hottest start anybody's ever had yeah college basketball coaching career um and you don't want that when when you've had the last two tournament exits they've had like hou Houston was way better than them the year that they lost.
That was a Sweet 16 at least. But Houston just manhandled them when Arizona was probably the best team in the country a couple years ago.
And then you lose to a 15 seed last year. Yeah, I don't want to say Tommy Lloyd.
He just signed an extension, and I think most people realize he is an incredible kid. He's still two or three years away from getting the narrative.
Yeah, but there's been a couple. They lost at Oregon State, I want to say, and then that game at home where they struggled with UCLA for the entire game.
Right. They let Stanford score 100 on him, but I think that's smart.
I think he's got to show more cracks in the regular season. If you're dominant through the regular season and then you fuck it up in March.
That's true. That's what Gonzaga used to do.
That's what looks embarrassing. But if you have like seven or eight losses entering the tournament and you lose in the Sweet 16, it's not a bad year.
It's not a bad year. It's like Izzo, right? He limps in the tournament sometimes.
You don't expect it. You're like, what a great coach.
Yeah, like if Michigan State makes the Sweet 16 this year, that's going to feel like a great accomplishment. Incredible accomplishment.
Yeah, they were. You picked them.
Yeah, picked them. Well, they're a great team.
They're a great team. They're a fantastic team.
Very hard to beat at home, especially early on in the season. You're a national title contender.
If you go in and you defeat Michigan State when they're, what, ranked number four at the time, you'd have to be a great team to do that. You should get an auto bed to the NCAA tournament, right? Yeah.
Agreed. Let's talk Sunbelt, Mark.
No, we won't talk Sunbelt. ACC.
So I miss – I'm going to say i'm gonna say i miss coach k big time i miss having him around i miss i miss the rivalries i miss him lecturing people i miss getting to talk about coach k and it feels like uh it's not just duke but like the a little bit of the shine is off the acc now without coach k it is uh duke is sneaky putting it together a little bit right now. But, yeah, it's not the same.
Carolina's – I think beyond Coach K, like, the ACC lost a lot of characters. They lost Roy.
They lost Boeheim. They lost Mike Bray, who nobody talks about.
Dude, how about Boeheim calling games? Yeah. And it's – like, I turned on a random ACC game the other day, and I was like, is this Bayheim? And he was just so curmudgeoning.
I was like, it is Bayheim. I don't like him calling games.
He should be the halftime and the – Yeah, it was so weird. He should be in the studio.
He was just kind of in his whiny voice, and I was just like, what is going on right now? Yeah. But, yeah, we lost a lot of ACC guys.
Yeah, and Virginia is still technically one of the better teams in the conference,

and now Virginia is as bad as – like when Virginia had those good teams and everyone was like,

this team cannot score the basketball, they were wrong.

They actually could.

They just played slow, but their offense was incredible.

They had NBA players, and they got good shots, and they made them.

This is actually what Virginia basketball was to all the people back in the day. This specific Virginia team is disgusting, just disgusting basketball.
They play great defense. They cannot score to save their lives.
And the problem the ACC has is that they are still one of the better teams in the ACC. And they are, they are just like, they are very, very offensive.
Yeah. When they're, when they're good, when they, when they win games you can be like this is if you're a real basketball head you love Virginia basketball because they suffocate you they smother you they're careful they're deliberate but then when they can't score it's just like this is bad basketball it's bad basketball what is Tony Bennett's philosophy on just like how he plays like what is the driving force behind why he chooses to play such a weird brand of basketball? His dad I think I think it was just like his dad he did it that way it literally is just if you're from Wisconsin you gotta play boring basketball.
Yeah I don't know it makes sense in like an antiquated way where it's like we want to work for a good shot. Work the ball.
Wait until you get out. Don't shoot bad shots.
That checks out. The value of each possession.
Yeah. I think there was a lot of – the pack line defense is like make them shoot further from the basket, which was a smart strategy in the 80s.
Yeah. And now it's like that's where everybody wants to shoot from.
Yeah. I also think it's like a lot of these teams.
Virginia, obviously, you said when they won the national title, they had NBA dudes. But it's smart when you have a team that maybe doesn't have, like, that one or two guys that can beat everyone off the dribble.
It's like, all right, we're going to work as a team to get these good shots. Right, right.
And now, yeah, the introduction of the ball screen has just completely changed. Somewhere along the way.
And Steph Curry. It was the ball screen plus Steph Curry that have just revolutionized this game.
If only Steph Curry would have been recruited by any team that was around him when he was growing up. Right.
Yeah. Yeah, damn.
Yeah. You know what? In all the Steph Curry, Virginia Tech angles I thought of, it never did cross my mind that like Virginia plays the pack line and they give up threes and they're fine giving up threes and steph curry could have gone to virginia tech yeah just fucking dude really virginia should have recruited steph curry because if they everyone should if they do yeah true but especially virginia because if they knew that tech wasn't recruiting him at least you get the opportunity to be like we got got this guy, and it's a big fuck you to Virginia Tech, right?

Yeah, that's a good point.

That's a big miss.

I wonder if that should be recruiting strategies,

like recruit the guys, recruit the sons that the dad's alma mater doesn't want.

Yeah, and then you can be like the whole time, like they didn't want you.

Yeah.

And fire you up that way. Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right, we got to mention the Mountain West, so Mountain West fans don't don't get mad yeah they're starting to piss me off mountain west fans i don't know why i think because there was the narrative that they couldn't do it in the tournament then san diego state maybe it's just one guy last night i was watching that that awesome awesome yeah uh new mexico colorado state game and someone's like oh just finding out about the mountain west like fuck you dude yeah I fucking watched Mountain West yeah I fucking lost I'm pretty sure that UNLV threw a game against Air Force like a month ago that I bet on and I watched every possession of they lost by like 30 I watched Mountain West so they got like hockey fan energy yeah they're a little bit like oh now you're taking attention to the Mountain West to be clear this is one fan no but no No, but they – No, no. This is one guy that big cats mad at.
No, Mountain West fans do have a little chip on their shoulder. Yeah.
Because they – I mean, it's earned chip because they did have all those years where it was great basketball to watch, and then they get to the tournament and they'd be out in like – remember the year they were out in 10 hours? Right. Yeah, so like they have a chip.
I do remember that. But I liked Mountain West.
It's fun basketball to watch. It's been great this year.
It's so fun. They might get six bids.
Yeah. Yeah.
The UNLV should not make it for that one game I'm talking about. But they have the same problem PFT said.
It's like whoever's at home. Yeah.
Well, no, they lost at home by 30 to the Air Force. I'm pretty sure they – Oh, UNLV.
You're talking about UNLV? I'm pretty sure that was a point-shaving game. Yeah, I can't make sense of who the best team in the Mountain West is.
I have no idea. It depends on basically what I just saw.
I think New Mexico probably has the highest ceiling. Yeah.
They feel like the team that – they make the most sense to me. I like their guards.
But, yeah, Utah State is probably the answer. They're probably going to win the league, right? The one thing thing that worries me about Utah State they haven't played a single power conference team all year when I realized that that definitely worried me San Diego State is like when the bracket comes out I'm going to make San Diego State go the furthest of any Mountain West team though it's last year bias but it's also like they do have the pedigree.
And they were the one team that like, they've never had obviously a Final Four run, but like they were the one team that would have some semblance of success. Right.
Out of the Mountain West. Right.
Like they at least like would go to Sweet 16 every so often. Yeah.
So I think San Diego State will probably end up still being the team, but yeah, fun league. Very fun.
It is, it has become the league that's like if if you don't know what game to watch just throw on a random ass mountain west game it might be the hipsters basketball yeah that's what it is yeah yeah definitely it does have that energy because it is like every night you can watch what the a10 used to be that way yeah you're right and and the mountain west has kind of become that yeah you're right where it used to be like yeah, no one's talking about VCU, Dayton, all this. You're absolutely right.
The Mountain West is the new A-10. This Richmond, yeah.
Yeah. Watch out for Bonnie's.
St. Bonaventure game.
Yeah. Popping off.
The Mr. Beer guy, he actually, I think his name was Dom.
Awesome dude. Remember the St.
Bonaventure fan who used to wear the beer hat and they'd show him at every game. Captain Beer.
He did an awesome move. He passed down the hat.
That's good. So there's a new Captain Beer.
That's a fucking great move. That's a great move.
For college basketball. Like if you're a fan and you're in the student section can you imagine continuing to go back to that fan section maybe wearing the same sunglasses that you've worn every single year? That'd be weird.
He came to the office and he brought us some merch, some Captain Beer merch. Guy rocks.
Speaking of TJ, how awesome is it getting to host a daily show, which I love, by the way, mostly sports. You have a cast of characters.
I mean, I love TJ. I love Ebo.
I Connor. You got everybody.
Cody. Cody.
It's got to be a great time hosting that show. Fun.
Yeah, it's fun hosting, especially when you guys are hosting it with me. Yeah.
That's when I enjoy it the most is when I look across the desk and I see a face I respect like one of you two. Like one of us.
I should thank you, um because you doing mostly sports with what's his name brendan brendan walker brendan brendan walker d uh you doing mostly sports with brendan walker has definitely cleared my schedule a little bit with uh his anxiety phone calls i'm assuming they're going to you because i know they're not fixed i assume they're just going to you he does he helps my anxiety because i have a ton of anxiety as well but then i see brandon and i'm like do i look like that yeah yeah it like forces you into a uh like a leadership role yeah exactly you have to calm him down somebody has to put it forces you into perspective about yourself yeah yeah it really does um but no we we we love the show it's been great we we love that uh yeah you guys help out with the show when when when asked called upon yeah when called upon it's been a fun show now is it going to be a disappointment for you if you don't get ranked as the number one college basketball personality uh no because i i don't know i don't know what's funnier. If I do or if...

The funniest outcome would be

if you were ranked number two or three

and then Brennan Walker got you a giant banner

to hang up that said number three.

Yeah, yeah, number two.

College basketball personality, yeah.

That's probably true.

Are you guys still in the honeymoon?

Have you had the time,

because this happens to every show

that's ever been created on the internet,

where like, I don't know, a year in,

everyone's like, this show sucks now.

We're not there yet,

I don't know, a year in, everyone's like, this show sucks now. We're not there yet, but I feel like Brandon pointed out that we have like a Reddit now.
Oh, that's the first time. Then it's over.
Yeah, no. Brandon made the mistake where he's like, we apparently have a Reddit and everybody's super nice.
And I was like, yeah, for now. That's going to turn.
That's the problem. Yeah.
That's the problem. Some light advice.
Take it or leave it. Just don't read the read.
Yeah. Never go on it.
Yeah. And then you don't have to worry about it.
We do have this problem. And I don't know if you guys can relate.
Connor, who's like kind of a side character, but we let him talk every so often. He's a big Philly guy.
Yeah. And his opinions about Philly sports just fucking stink.
Yeah. And so we get a lot of shit where it's like, shut this Philly asshole up,

please.

I don't want to hear from this Philly piece of shit.

Um,

and I don't know why I'm asking.

I,

I,

it's just something that like,

we're trying to,

we don't have,

I don't know if I can help you out with that one.

We don't have that problem.

We're trying to deal with that.

Uh,

like how,

cause we,

we,

we enjoy it,

but also like the fans just hate his fucking guts.

Yeah.

And that's a little weird.

Well, he's not Italian though. So you're're good.
I think Max's personality is more Italian than Philly sometimes. It's a lethal combination.
Where he'll start a sentence and finish it with his hands. I'm like, dude, I don't know sign language.
We weren't talking about me. No, we were talking about Conor.
Yeah, we were talking about Conor. Well, you just said my name.
Well because i was saying like as long as connor's not italian or becomes italian you should be okay

what is he irish german irish you're fine you're fine he's irish right yeah yeah connor's an irish

name connor griffin he has great probably i'm redhead yeah people get pissed off when you

have that one guy that uh his name starts with e and he always talks about jmu yeah that's a bad

person to have on a podcast.

All right, national title.

And we're going to have you back on, obviously,

for the brackets when they are announced.

But give it to us.

Maybe give us a final four.

Okay, final four.

It's impossible to do without a bracket.

Yeah, it's also impossible because I did have this realization the other day

that I don't think I can think of four teams that I trust to win

four NCAA tournament games in a row right now,

which is a problem because four teams will. By definition, four teams.
I trust UConn. UConn and Purdue feel obvious.
I mean, that's why I'm going to just – okay. All right.
I have to think this through. Because everybody wants you to pick a wild card card but the reason they are a wild card is because they've kind of sucked this year right so like the why would i pick them uh i i think purdue is going to make the final four i i said that at the start of the year i think purdue is going to get their redemption in the sense that they're going to make the final four and not win a national championship.
I do feel like Houston's defense is – Houston is – the jump up to the Big 12 is going to help them immensely, and I have to trust Houston. I don't think UConn's going to do it.
Oh. I think UConn is good.
I think UConn is very, very good. I just think back-to-back championships is hard.
Back-to-back Final Fours is very hard. and uh yeah I like UConn is very, very good.
I just think, like, back-to-back championships is hard. Back-to-back Final Fours is very hard.
And, yeah, like UConn, like even Villanova did. Villanova was the year in between the national title.
Like, Villanova had an awesome team, and they got tripped up. Like, you get – Who beat them? I can't remember.
Who cares? I can't remember. Second round.
Oh, you didn't even get out of the second round? You the one seed I'll take a second round exit sandwich but who did beat him who did beat him I who cares I'm just asking I'm nervous like we're it seems like you know the answer no I don't like you know the answer yeah it was this Wisconsin bad oh it was Wisconsin like that Matt Amata. It's crazy.
But yeah, I think UConn's in a position right now where the

foreseeable future Oh, fuck. It was Wisconsin.
That's a coincidence like that, Matt. It's crazy.

But, yeah, I think UConn's in a position right now where the foreseeable future, they will be national title contenders.

But I'm going to pick them to get tripped up like in the Sweet 16 this year.

So I got Purdue.

I'll take Houston.

Give me Arizona because I like that.

That's a sexy idea of, like, Arizona being in Phoenix in the Final Four last year, the Pac-12. And then I got a ride with Tennessee, who I said, Big Cat, when you came on my show.
Yeah, they were one of my picks. And we talked about national title picks.
Yeah, we threw out Michigan State and Tennessee. Yeah, so you picked three number ones and a number two.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Let me pull a bracket matrix.
What do you want me to pick? What's low enough? I was going to pick Indiana State, but right now in Lenardi's bracket. I can't quit Kentucky.
Kentucky's probably going to be like a six seed. They're five seed maybe.
I'll go with... I did pick...
Nebraska? Nebraska. I'll pick...
I'll pick Ole Miss. Okay.
Nice. Vermont.
Yep. Give me Nevada.
Yep. And South Florida.
Actually, South Florida is. Yeah, they are.
South Florida. They're very fun.
South Florida is a fun team. Yeah.
They won a big time trap spot last night. Dude, fuck it.
I'll pick Butler in the Final Four then. Love it.
Take out – I can't wait until Butler doesn't make it. Take out Houston and put in Butler.
Give me your NIT Final Four. Buckeyes.
Buckeyes are back. We beat Purdue, so we're back in the NIT picture.
Buckeyes JMU. There we go.
Buckeyes JMU. I would love that.
Beautiful. Would we have to go? Yeah, we should.
That was a women's. Was that a women's like round of 16 game last year? Because I think me and you bet on that, right? You know what? Now that I think about it, that was my.
Yeah, we did. And I think I owe you something.
It was a mustache bet. Yeah.
There were so many bets going on. Yeah.
It was such a whirlwind. Because that was my welcome to Barstool moment in terms of the gambling was we bet on the Ohio State JMU women.
Ohio State won by like 23 or something. And PFT was cackling in my face like, ha ha, you lose.
Gotcha. And I was like, what is going on? Gotcha.
Loser. Yeah, I don't like looking at bracketology right now because I just pulled it up in Wisconsin's playing Indiana State in the first round, and that's a loss.
Jake, I have a question for you with bracketology. How do you feel about Joe Linardi becoming the lightning rod for like any time a coach has a problem with where he's at in the bracketing? just they go after linardi uh he gets so much shit and i don't necessarily think linardi's the best bracketologist but i just find it fascinating that joe linardi has created this industry where he's just like here's what i think the selection committee is going to do and then every time around this year like a team that's on the bubble their coach will do a press conference we're like oh one more but before i go fuck you joe lindardi joe lindardi's like what did i do well mark as someone who tried going down the path of being a bracketologist for one season i can tell you that role is absolute hell yeah there is no way to make anyone happy i left wisconsin out of my preseason bracket two years ago and they got a three did not up about it.
Well, you shouldn't have done that. Because you just copied whatever they said.
I wanted a true, real bracketology. They were projected not to do well that year.
Projected? Who projects? It's an impossible job. It is impossible.
There is no way to make anybody happy. It is impossible.
I agree with that. But then the funny part about it is it's actually super easy because when you're forecasting the field in the NCAA tournament, you're basically looking at a pool of eight teams, and you're picking five of those eight to make the tournament.
Correct. That's really all it comes down to.
And somehow, I don't know, but just the idea that Linardi is the only one that – would you take that as a point of pride, though, Jake?'re the guy that everybody wants to attack. Are you like, this is fucking insane.
Why is everybody coming to mind that? I think the fact that ESPN has the rights to like 85% of college basketball games, he's the easiest target. Well, he was the first.
It is true. He did invent a field of study.
The fact that he put ology at the end of it makes it seem like much more of a science. There's a part-time class you could take with him.
I don't know if it still exists. It's not really his opinions, though.
That's what I find hilarious about it. It's like, Joe Lenardi, in his mind, he's like, this is science, dude.
Like, I'm not... Yeah.
He's just doing what they think they will do. Yeah.
You don't see people coming for Jerry Palm. Right.
Right. It's all Lenardi.
It's always Lenardi. And he's just like, every time he's on TV, he's just like the biggest teddy bear looking dude.
And the idea that these coaches are behind closed doors is like, fuck, we got to fucking kill this guy. It's just one guy that's locked in his basement.
The bunker. Also, Jerry Palm, you can't go at him because his hair.
What are you going to say? Yeah, that's true. You just look at him and you're like, your hair, dude.
He kind of just put a speed bump in front of all haters. We're going to make fun of that? Look at his hair.
That's it. You're out of the bracketology game forever? I did it for one season, and it was a huge mistake.
Yeah. I've been trying to find a field for Blake to get into because Leroy's thing was breaking news, and he was really good at it.
Blake might become a bracketologist. Should we have him do a whole bracket? You should become a CBI bracketologist.
He could be a bracketologist. Maybe he could also be like an NFL news aggregator, like a Dove Kleinman.
Yeah, football. Yeah, but maybe bracketology, blake-otology.
Ooh, that works. But yeah, it can't be the NCAA or the NIT.
It should be the CBI or whatever. CIT.
I don't even know if that exists anymore. CIT.
That would rock if it was a CBI or it would be even better if he was like bracketologist for like the Maui tournament. Yeah.
It's like we already know who's going to play next year. Just make the bracket.
Or just do champ week where it's predetermined. Oh yeah.
Yeah, there you go. Conference championship week bracketology.
I like that a lot.

You talked about Tennessee.

I want to circle back to them real quick because there are two teams I bet on preseason.

One is Houston. The other is Tennessee.

And I feel like I'm getting big T poisoning in my ears all the time.

But they're a very fun team to watch.

I actually think they would have been good last year if Ziegler didn't tear it away towards ACL.

Yeah, yeah, and he didn't play in the tournament.

Yeah, last year felt like, I don't know. I just like the guy because he's like 5'8", but he's fun to watch.
Dalton Kinnett might be the most electric scorer in college basketball. He is, yeah.
He's so fun. He's just like, he is, the problem with guys like him is when he's not on and it's not all there, he'll drive you insane because he is, he does get a little, he like spaces out when he's playing.
Like he doesn't play defense and he doesn't really, like sometimes offensively he's like kind of doesn't understand what the rest of the team is doing. But like when he's rolling, he's the most electric scorer in college basketball.
Absolutely. Which is the reason I've talked myself into Tennessee all season.
Even as they lose, I trust that – because the Rick Barnes and March thing is very real, but it's also – he made the Sweet 16 last year. It is like a – and he's made a Final Four before in his life.
So I don't fully understand what – like, Dan, you'll say, you'll be like, Rick Barnes and March, and I'm like, yes, exactly. What does that mean what does that mean again it just means they're just gonna you just visualize it he's not going to win a national championship yeah like he's no they're just you just you just close your eyes and you're like oh yeah there he goes right down the tunnel uh 16 loss i can't visualize him like for a week leading up to the final four like doing all the press conferences talking about getting his team ready for a final four i just just don't see Rick Barnes in that role.
But he's done it. He's very good.
He's done it. He's made a Final Four.
Yeah, but he's very good, but he just, it's Rick Barnes in March. Yeah.
But I think this team is different than the Tennessee teams of the past because of Dalton Connect. And Zaki Ziegler is a great, great offensive player, too, and he's gotten a lot better throughout his career.

They have a good offense.

They do have offensive weapons in a way they haven't since basically Grant Williams and Admiral Schofield,

which is a team that, you know, ha-ha Rick Barnes in March.

But, like, that, if you remember that tournament, 2019,

that was, like, Virginia fucked that all up for Purdue and tennessee because like all three of those teams in that bracket were good enough to make a final four all those games were close like purdue purdue tennessee game was awesome uh one team had to win whoever was going to lose that game was going to get point laughed at and be like you always fuck this up in march and then the next round the exact same thing happened with purd with Purdue and Virginia where Purdue had Virginia beat. Virginia wins on a, or sends it to, uh, they, they won, they won on the last second shot.
Um, and, uh, that's how Purdue loses. And, uh, now all of a sudden it's like Purdue can't get it done in March.
I don't know. It, this shit drives me crazy.
Cause it makes no fucking sense, but then it kind of does make sense. Yeah.
Mark Gonzaga is never going make a football. But what I was saying, the point was this team offensively I trust more than any team since the 2019 Tennessee team.
And, yes, that team lost in the Sweet 16. But if you go back and see how they lost in the Sweet 16.
Rick Barnes. Yeah.
See how you did that? Rick Barnes looked at his calendar. Oh, shit.
Oh, shit. I was ready to do that.
All right, well, Titus. Rick Barnes, Rick Barnes, Rick Barnes, Rick Barnes, Rick Barnes.
March. Who do we trust that's going to win a national championship this year? Dan Hurley because I saw it last year.
Yeah, that's it. That's literally it.
These other guys haven't proven they can win. Bill Self.
Are we going to trust Houston? Like, Houston's made one. Calvin's name has made one final four.
Is it Mickey Mouse run to the final four. No, it's Bill Self.
Tommy Lloyd chokes in March. Yeah, Matt Painter chokes.
It's Bill Self and Danny Hurwitz. Rick Barnes chokes.
That's it. And if Jay Wright wants to come back, I'll trust him too.
That's it. Jay Wright's another perfect example.
Villanova was the... Oh, Jay Wright.
They can't win the big one. It's like, alright.
Then he just ranova was the. That's right.
Oh, Jay Wright. Like they can't win the big one.

It's like, all right.

Then he just riles off some national titles.

All right, Titus, thank you so much.

Everyone can tune in to Mostly Sports Every Day

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We'll have you back on for the brackets.

This is the best time of year.

I'm excited, guys.

Thanks for having me.

Look forward to get the bracket in my hand.

Yeah, tell Brendan we said hi.

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All right, let's wrap up Hank fire fest of the week. Go ahead may have oh no you're are it's been two days it's been two days all right i lost uh my my no no go ahead say the first one it's not a fire fest because it's been two days you can't have to be a fire fest two days you have nine months is it nine months you have 10 months oh basically nine no i mean i've got a lot of people regional i've actually got a lot of positive reinforcements which i appreciate a lot of good good advice um what be a have a different mom no i gotta i gotta that's the thing i'm athletic i just haven't been athletic my baseline is so low i've chosen not to do athletic things for the last couple years,

give or take 10.

But it exists inside me.

I like the belief in yourself,

but also you don't have that belief in yourself

because you're thinking about not doing it.

He's already practicing his three-point shot.

No, I'm not.

I'm going hard to dunk.

When are you going to transition to threes?

Summer.

That's exactly my plan. It's going to interfere with your golfing, which is a real problem.
I don't think so because I think it's good. I need to – what I've learned, which was surprising, was that obviously you have to train legs, obviously.
You also have to train your hips and your shoulders, which I'm always on the search for boulders for shoulders. You've got to train your shoulders heavy so that you have good, like that's a big part of dunking.
I've learned a lot about dunking in the past couple days. What would you say the percentage of positive feedback to negative feedback has been? That I've read? I've read 100% negative.
Well, I only read the ones, like I just kind of block out the negative ones. So you're in the- The way that I've noticed, overwhelming.
You're in the information gathering portion of this journey. Knees over legs.
Knees over shins. Knees over feet.
There's an Instagram account. Oh, yeah.
I'm following him. And I downloaded a program.
There's a lot, obviously, a lot of- This is probably a- These are all things that you've done on your phone. He's an information gathering.
No, I downloaded- I got a laptop. I have a whole workout program.
Oh, you found it. I haven't started.
Yeah, I found my laptop. I'm excited.
I'm excited for the challenge. I think it's going to help everything.
I'm going to be athletic. I'm going to be a better golfer, healthier.
What point do you think you're going to get injured? We'll see about that. Okay.
Because it wouldn't be the worst if you had a Tom Segura. Once I get injured, it's all.
Break your legs,'s all break your legs acl it's on camera i also was thinking i should get something if i do both what like what if i now you think you can do both and hit 23s well then you gotta put something else up i already i'm already over leveraged do you want to double down? No. $20,000? No, because I can't.
The bet is if I couldn't do either. So obviously.
All right. If you do both, then.
Careful. I was going to say, if you do both, we'll both get cats.
And if you can't, you have to get a cat. No.
Okay. How about if you do both, you get to go on a month-long golf vacation? No.
Okay. No.
No. No.
Wait. No.
No. No.
No. No.
But if you can't do it, then you have to pay us 10% of your salary for the next five years. Every paycheck.
You know what? I'll double the price. So I'll give you 20 grand.
If you can't do both, then you have to get the soul patch. It doesn't matter.
Soul patch. Yeah.
It's not going to happen. It's not going to happen.
Soul patch. Hank, you have an extra day to prepare.
Soul patch. February 29th.
Good point, Jake. It's true.
It's been zoned. Soul patch.
All right, we're good. Oh, that's weird.
By the way, tune in on Monday. We have Derek White and Peyton Pritchard here, and Hank makes a crazy soul patch bad.
Absolutely not. Sounded like you did.
No. In my cart.
You're not going to get either of these. Good.
Keep it coming. Okay.
You're not going to get either of these. I just have to basically change my entire lifestyle, way of thinking, and everything Yeah, you have to become a new person.
Yeah. You're not going to get either of these.
But once I do that, then it's going to happen. New DNA.
No, my DNA is there. It's just been bogged down by all the trash I consume.
It is going to be tough to learn how to dunk when you're golfing all summer. No, I don't think so.

Oh, okay.

I mean, we have a basketball court in our, I will walk on the course.

PFT, we brought up the rollerblading thing, and I was like, absolutely not.

And then I was like, you know what?

My legs.

As a person who's training his legs, I am so down to do rollerblade from LA to San Diego. So getting a country club membership that you're going to want to use that quite a bit this summer, am I right? We work in a gym.
I just have to come to work, which I guess I will do now. Oh, interesting.
Yeah, you have to change everything about yourself. Yeah.
And then you'll be able to dunk. Okay.
And then both of my car key batteries are dead. Dude, you can give me your car keys.

Do you have a thing?

You can change it.

Do you have the battery?

I mean, it's probably one that you can buy easily

or they probably have it in the control room.

That'd be clutch.

I also don't know how to open the thing.

So how have you been getting into your car?

Key?

The key, but it's a process.

Yeah, it's like annoying. You can hook it up to a potato too, I think.
Oh, damn. You drive a Rolls Royce? That's crazy.
Let's see. I like the pussy wagon keychain you got on there.
It's this thing, Hank. You just got to get do you know that it's like right it's sitting right here so you get that open and then you can uh what if i hit the panic button if you get that open there's it's it's like a watch battery easy all right firefest solved yeah just so no firefest for me this week oh wow okay nice i didn't know you were trouble Firefest solved.
Yeah. So no Firefest for me this week.
Oh, wow. Okay.
Nice. I didn't know you were Trevor Rose Rice.
Fucking stunting on us. Cheese stick.
PFT. I got a couple Firefests.
The first one is the Rick Pitino stalker's back. Oh, yeah.
So we talked about Coach, and apparently he lit a fire under his player's ass. Yeah.
So Rick Pitino, I think he's a great coach, and I think he didn't say anything wrong. We should all chill out.
Yeah, he texted me twice. And he also gave me a date.
We need to respect Rick Pitino, as we always have. I like Rick Pitino.
I want him on the podcast. St.
John's, if you're listening, please have Rick Pitino come on the podcast. We'd love to have him come on the podcast.
Yeah, come on.

Okay.

See, you're doing it again.

No, come write another text.

I'm going to get another text.

Come write on this podcast.

This guy's been texting me for like 10 years.

I hope he does.

Well, yeah, he's texting me, not you.

We might get killed.

We might get killed.

I should just give him your number.

Yeah.

No, don't do that.

I tracked him down in Final Four.

Yeah, that's right.

Tell that story.

Yeah.

He no-showed. Yeah, he didn't no-showed.
But then he was like, you sent your goons. I don't know.
So maybe he did show. Max does give goon vibes.
Yeah. He is our goon.
Wearing a track suit. Either way, I like Rick Pitino.
Listen, we make jokes about everyone on this podcast, including ourselves. So Rick Pitino, please come on the pod.
It's actually my lifelong dream to last 13 seconds.

That's stolen valor of Fyre Fest because he's texting me.

Well, he was texting you about something that I said on the pod. Yeah, but he then followed up and texted me more pointedly.

And then my other Fyre Fest is we've got March Madness coming up,

Final Four, which also means it's time for the –

By the way, the soccer, let's just – great AWL.

Yeah.

It's every show.

Yeah.

I'm sorry. We've got March Madness coming up.
Final Four, which also means it's time for... By the way, the soccer, let's just...
Great AWL. Yeah.
It's every show. Yeah.
Shout out to him. I just want to at least give him some credit for that.
Yeah, he loves it. Thank you.
He loves the program. Thank you for that.
Yes. Thank you.
Because it's almost instant when we say something. So I want to say, I know you want us dead, I think.
But do appreciate you subscribing and listening to every episode. Yes.
fire fest is march madness coming up final four is coming up uh which also means the hong kong sevens tournaments coming up the rugby tournament in hong kong that i went to a few years ago donnie's been texting me pretty constantly being like hey are you going to come and then now recently pivoted to well who should who from barstool should come with me if i'm going to go over there. It's the last year that they're going to have the South Stand set up, the last year where it's going to be – it's probably going to continue to be a Zoom.
You got to go. What they did.
You got to go. It's the exact weekend of the Final Four.
We'll do one Zoom on Sunday. And it was – listen, it was a lot of fun last time, and the first thing I said when I came back is it was so much fun.
In fact, it was so much fun that i'm never going to do it again in my life uh i've been i've been starting to think about doing it why don't you just go because last time you went what when did you leave i left i think it was like early on the thursday before the final four okay because when you fly there it takes like 18 hours right and then when you're there it's an exact 12 hour time difference so when you guys are taping the show at night it'll probably be 11 midnight yeah that's tough and then that would be 11 o'clock in the morning and we might get and also now that i'm putting these two stories together that'd be interesting that you somehow are out of the country when we're in a very public spot at the final four where Rick Pitino's stocker come get us? Huh. It would be interesting.
Howard. These are unrelated instances.
Howard. But also, you could do another segment with an athlete who tries to take my job in case I die on the trip.
Yeah. George Kittle did that last time.
Yeah, we did. We could.
I'll just say, George, you're a great guy. Stick to football.
I don't think you can fill these shoes.

But I'm thinking about it.

I will make a decision by the end of the week whether or not I'm going to go.

Max is shaking his head being like, don't go.

You have no idea how fun it was, Max.

Yeah.

We just got oblows.

We got oblows.

What oblows?

We just got oblows.

Sounds like you're a hater. No.
Sounds like you don't want to see me live my best life. No.
No. We got oblows sounds like you're a hater sounds like you don't want to see me live my best life

no no

we got oblows

I'll make my final decision by tomorrow whether or not I'm going

if I don't go I feel like

Mincy would be a great person to go over there with Donnie

oh man

I don't know he might be like Elvis

he might not be able to go out of the country

that's true

Mincy in Hong Kong would be special though

yeah it would

that is a good replacement

maybe I'll have him wear a wig and sunglasses he can i mean he does pat mahomes maybe yeah be pft you could easily do it uh so yeah but i do want to go i've been i've been feeling the itch recently and it's like that's such a fun weekend a lot of rugby it's just a blast it's one itch. I know.
If I go, if I go, I'm not going to take MDMA again. I said that's the first and only time I do that.
That's a lot. That's like saying Hank's going to dunk.
I'm not a drug guy. Even though when I did go to Qatar with Donnie, I ended up doing acid.
But I don't want to do drugs. The reason that I want to go over there has nothing to do with drugs.
It's just such a fun time. Okay, my Fyre Fest is the Rick Pitino stalkers back texting me.
Also, I've actually started a real diet. Chef Donnie's cooking for me.
I'm a little grumpy. But I'll be okay.
Yeah, you are. No, I'm not.
I was a test. You're the grumpy one because you're sick.
You've been sick all week.

Right in our face. You got the Scottsdale flu.

No, my real fire fest is

no, actually

I'm not going to say it because then Hank will use it against me.

See what you've done to this podcast,

Hank? Yeah.

I enjoyed vacation. Okay.

This always happens.

I did get a little, I got the itch though at the end

and also

I'm a big believer. I remember even

when I was like a kid and I would go

I'm going would go on vacation and i would be like now i can watch like all the mtv i want yeah and my mom would be like it's vacation go outside it's like it's my vacation yeah i should get to do what i want so like when people are like stop tweeting about mincy you know uh doing the the what was he on he was on the crowd surfing or sydney sweeney's boobs it's my vacation i can tweet about whatever i want if it's sydney sweeney's boobs that's okay you should tweet more about the mountain west on vacation if you really cared about yeah that's true but i i'm a big believer in if your vacation like if i could do my real vacation it would just be sitting in a room with a bunch of tvs and gambling on every game that's my real vacation that's your job though but it would be nice if i could do it just unfettered yeah uh yeah vacation's really nice it's really nice i'm not addicted though so don't get some thoughts hank i ain't addicted it was fine uh jake um remember when i with you guys, I sent you my website? Yeah. I haven't touched it in years, and I just got a $325 bill for an auto renewal.
Oh, so then renew it. It was an auto renewal.
Is it jakemarsh.com? Jake W. Marsh.
I made it when I was graduating college just as like a real

slash resume one-stop oh my god shop but i haven't touched it in a long time and i and i just spent another 325 dollars unknowingly yeah you gotta update this website i know it's so old you gotta make it flash we're on it yeah You added this part. Yeah, but I haven't touched it since, like, COVID.

I think the last time I had it was maybe 2020, 2021. I know that we do some advertising with some of these companies, but we should just be like, hey, do you want to last longer in bed? Just go read Jake Marsh's website.
You'll have no problem. You'll be a stallion.
90% of the work on there is my college work. I'm either going to deactivate it.
If you want to fuck like a porn star, go to jakewmarsh.com. Jake is a diehard New York Yankees fan and loves rooting for his hometown teams in Miami as well.

Some of Jake's hobbies include playing golf, tennis,

and relaxing with his family.

You like chilling with the fam?

Yeah.

Prior to that, Jake spent two seasons as a play-by-play broadcaster

with the University of Vermont men's basketball team.

His other interests are petting dogs and eating pussy.

Yep. Word for word.
Huh. But yeah yeah you should have a positions tab on here yeah like just yeah just have one tab on the website be the kama sutra yeah no it should be it should be an auto generator where you can hit like hit for a new position yeah it just pops up a new position i forgot one fire fest i have one otherfest.
My last Firefest is I have a really good friend and he's a crazy crazy sports fan and he's in for just an absolute ass kicking on Saturday and I'm worried about him. Who's his team playing? I think they're playing UConn.
Is it going to be nationally televised? Yeah, I think they're playing UConn. This is a no-lose situation.
What do you mean? It sounds like you guys could lose by a lot. Yes.
And if you lose by a lot, then you lose by a lot. It's a no-win situation.
No, there's a win. There's a situation for a win.
So how is it a no-lose? Because exactly what you're saying. Everyone's expecting Villanova to lose by 30.
If they lose by 30, it's just whatever. Oh, no, that would be funny.
No, if you get your ass kicked and it's such a prominent game. But that's what everyone's expecting.
You understand that this is the weekend where the nation turns its eyes to college basketball. They're not going to be 15-point favorites.
It'll be 13. Let's take a look real quick.
Let's take a look real quick. Ken Palm has 10.
10. I think 82.
72.

Yeah, it's going to be a bad.

I actually kind of want to see him.

Max.

Like I did you want to live stream 72 60.

What time is it at?

Seven o'clock Saturday night.

Oh, perfect.

Live streaming hours.

I'll come in and live stream with you.

It's going to be an absolute blowout.

Is it going to be a must win for you?

What must win?

No, like this. This does absolutely nothing to to the committee it's only positive for the committee all right i'm gonna just um who are you gonna go out saturday night watch it somewhere yes okay perfect okay this is like the phillies all over again what i'm just gonna pay everyone that you are friends with to make sure they send me all the clips i actually might try to track max down yeah just stay across the bar incognito but like i'm i'm going in expecting them to lose by a lot but in the off chain set like how much how much of the public money you think is going to be on yukon a lot a lot you're right you're right But there is a lose.
And also... If you lose.
Yes, correct. But imagine if Hurley loses after posting that meme.
Oh, you'd give him the business. I mean, that would be an all-time bad tweet.
I'm also excited for the college game day signs that you guys told. Yeah, Max two sodas.
We need a lot of Max Two Sodas. None of them.

Max Had Two Sodas. Nobody bring that to the college game day.

Max, I got your back.

If anybody brings a Max Had Two Sodas sign to college game day,

I'm going to have to retweet it so that nobody else does it

and be like, this person's the only one that can do it.

Anyone else that does it is not creepy.

I'll go one up, PFT,

because I don't want these Max Has Two Sodas signs signs anywhere if anyone does a max has two sodas sign um i at least be a man about it and put your venmo on it so that i could send you some money yeah i want some accountability i want to know and you know you know what? Heaven forbid somebody dresses up like Max and then shows up. It's also bullshit because Gabe Day is the Nova Yukon game.
And then shows up with a foam dome with two sodas on either side. Here's what I'm going to do.
I don't want to see any of these Max has two soda signs, but I will pick, and obviously, you know,

because it's the two sodas,

I'll pick two of my favorite Max has two soda signs,

and those people will win a prize on Venmo.

I can't wait for that.

I can't wait for that.

Max has two sodas.

Maybe pictures of sad Max included in it.

So it's best sign wins.

Max has two sodas. Okay.
Numbers. Eight.
20. Three.
18. What am I going to pick? You said 40, Hank? I said 40.
Avert. 77.
77. Pug.

99 Pug.

99 Pug.

What was Pug Talk the other day?

That ruled.

People just talking about Pugs?

It's Pug's new podcast.

Pug, what was Pug Talk?

Did you get in on it?

99 Pug.

They're asking about Pug Talk.

Shane, what do you got?

It was trending on Twitter, so I had to get in on it.

Pug.

Who said that? who said that?

Who said that?

Who said it?

You didn't sign off.

Say Pug.

Pug.

I really need headphones.

Pug, you're our new big dom.

Tell him that.

Yeah, I said that.

Pug, you're our new big dom.

We were looking for a big dom on the show, and we were trying to figure it out, and I

said, it's got to be you.

You're our big dom. That's fine with me, pug.
Perfect. You know what I mean? My only issue with pug is if you look at pugs in the wild that live in a family, no house that has one pug only has one pug.
Right. They always have two pugs.
Oh, they come up. Yeah, they're like cats.
They're the cats of dogs. You have to have multiple pugs.
Yeah.

Shane, what's your number?

21. Alright, everyone say their numbers again real quick.
20. 40.

18. 77.

99 pug. 3.

I just want to hear it again.

80. 80.
80 80 Alright see everyone on Monday Love you guys I'm talking away I don't know what I'm to say I'm saved anyway Today's an odd day to find you shying away.

I'll be coming for your lover.

Okay. Take on me.

Take me on.

I'll be gone Interrupted Needless to say I ought to say yes But I'll be still a little late Telling them life is okay Say after me It's no better to be safe than safe. Take me.
I'll be gone

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When used as directed, always read and follow pesticide label directions. Let's listen in on a live, unscripted second grade challenger school class.
They're studying Charlotte's Web. What words did this author use to describe this barn? Descriptive words.
Wonderful. Can you find some adjectives in there? New is an adjective describing rope.

Rubber is an adjective and it modifies boots. Those students are seven.
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