Booger McFarland, Stavros Halkias, The 2023 Bonk List And Dan Quinn To The Commanders

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Speaker 1 On today's part in my take, we've got a two for the people. We got our good friend Boog, Booger McFarland, talking about what it's like playing in a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Talking about the playoffs, a little draft talk, great catching up with him.

Speaker 1 And then we have our good friend Stavros Halkiason, which I'm going to say right now is must-listen because Stav, Diehard Ravens fan, has basically been in a hole since Sunday, has not done any media, has not talked to anyone.

Speaker 1 So we got basically his instant reactions after. Also, just so you know, he yelled very loud a couple times.
So he was yelling so loud that his own AirPods couldn't handle it.

Speaker 7 It was great, though. It was must-listen.
He's got like pure

Speaker 7 uncut Stav. Yeah.
His genuine reaction. And just, it's a lot of rage.
It's it's a lot of coping, but it's, it's pleasant to listen to.

Speaker 1 It's a, it's exactly what if the AWS, when they love when one of our teams loses and you get to drink our tears, that's exactly what you get to do with Stav, especially if you're a Chiefs fan, you're going to really love this one.

Speaker 1 Uh, we're going to talk about some new coaches. We have the 2023 bonk list, and then we're going to finish with Firefest.

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Speaker 1 and then a lot of

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Speaker 1 No place to hang out on washing.

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Speaker 1 Welcome to part of my take. Today is Friday, February 2nd.

Speaker 1 And PFT has a new coach. All right.
Dan Quinn, baby. So

Speaker 7 he was number one on my big board. And, ladies and gentlemen, we got him.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So

Speaker 1 you'll get the actual instant reaction because the news broke while we were interviewing Burger McFarlane. But PFT, you've now had a couple hours to process.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 A couple people in this room have been very mean to you. Yes.
There's only two other people in this room. Very mean.
Well, no.

Speaker 6 Counting the booth as well.

Speaker 7 Hank's been very mean to me. Max has been very mean to me.
Memes is just always mean to me. So I don't think that that has anything to do with the coach.
Jake, of course, has been polite.

Speaker 7 But yeah, Max and Hank are a bunch of haters. And Max, out of all the people in this room, Max should be ecstatic about Dan Quinn

Speaker 7 because at the very least, the Cowboys' defense is going to get worse, right?

Speaker 10 Yep, that's exactly what I was thinking.

Speaker 7 And so if we get better and the Cowboys' defense gets worse, I think that's a win-win for both me and you. It's a Quinn Quinn.

Speaker 1 Quinn Quinn all around. Sure.

Speaker 1 That's good for me.

Speaker 7 Suck my dick, Max.

Speaker 6 I did see there was

Speaker 1 a statement released

Speaker 1 after, yep, put it on the bonk list coming up in a second.

Speaker 11 second i saw an it uh a statement that was released after the hiring it reads ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Speaker 7 Can I guess who that's from?

Speaker 6 Yes.

Speaker 7 Well, it's definitely not anyone who was in the crowd for Hank's stand-up act last night. Oh,

Speaker 1 got him.

Speaker 7 I think it's Hank. I think that was actually the...
That was Hank.

Speaker 1 That was Henry Lockwood. He did a lot of ha's.

Speaker 1 Maybe too many.

Speaker 7 Not enough, I think.

Speaker 1 I was trying to tweet what I was feeling.

Speaker 7 Why are you so fired up about this?

Speaker 1 Because I listened here and said to you, go, Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson. I need Ben Johnson.
You tweeted at him every day, everything the Lions did.

Speaker 1 You're like, ooh, Ben Johnson.

Speaker 7 I never tweeted at Ben Johnson.

Speaker 1 I'm all in on Ben Johnson. It's called X.
Then you did get Ben Johnson.

Speaker 1 He literally turned you down, would have gotten more money to be a head coach and said, I don't want to be coach for your shitty franchise.

Speaker 1 I want to win a Super Bowl, insinuating that there's zero chance that would ever even possibly happen in Washington. Meanwhile, he works for the biggest loser franchise in NFL history, and he still

Speaker 1 doesn't want to work for Washington.

Speaker 7 NFC championship game participant. And as we discussed, Dan Campbell got in his ear.

Speaker 1 Then in his heart. You were like, oh, well, I'm all in on Belichick.
I want Belichick just to rub it in your face. You didn't have to do that.

Speaker 1 You didn't have to go out of your way to say, I want Belichick,

Speaker 1 just to rub it in your face. You brought me into a situation that I had no involvement in.

Speaker 7 Where are you looking at Big Cat? Look at me.

Speaker 1 And you didn't get him either. You got a coach who has been to a Super Bowl.

Speaker 13 So that's good.

Speaker 13 Okay, so I have a coach.

Speaker 1 What happened in the Super Bowl? They had a

Speaker 1 free leap. Let me step in here.
That's a good coach. So they're ultimately funny.
Let me step in here.

Speaker 1 I'm going to be there for another Super Bowl. This is my hire.

Speaker 7 I would like to address it.

Speaker 1 One year, nine years ago today, 2014 Seahawks.

Speaker 7 Okay, so let's talk about Dan Quinn for a second because he's an elite defensive coordinator. We know that.

Speaker 1 That was a good laugh.

Speaker 7 He should be a three-time Super Bowl champion. He won one Super Bowl.

Speaker 7 he lost to hanks patriots not because of his defense but because of not handing the ball to marshawn lynch on the two-yard line uh and then obviously again against hanks patriots he didn't lose that super bowl kyle shanahan lost that super whole super bowl well they were up they were up 28 to 3 and he was the head coach he was the head coach um so he should be a three-time super bowl champion just just let me cope okay can i cope I just need like a day to cope, Hank.

Speaker 1 Wait, just looking back real quick, because the Marshawn Lynch thing,

Speaker 1 his defense did give up 14 points in the fourth quarter in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 7 That might be accurate. I'll have to go back and look at the box score.

Speaker 1 But you were at that game, Hank. Yeah, I was.

Speaker 7 Was it his call to hand the ball off?

Speaker 1 I don't know. He probably could have said all over the headset, don't do that.

Speaker 7 Sprinted out onto the field. Russell, you piece of shit, hand the ball off.
Please don't do that. People are calling him a retread.
Retreads run the world, okay? Retreads runs.

Speaker 1 You saw that in 2024?

Speaker 7 Sorry, R-Treads

Speaker 12 run the world. Okay?

Speaker 7 Eventually retreads. Yes.
And here's the thing about retreads in the NFL.

Speaker 7 Gary Kubiak, John Gruden, Bill Parcells, Tony Dungy, Tom Coughlin, Pete Carroll, Andy Reed, Mike Shanahan, Don Chula, Bill Belichick was a retread when he was hired by the New England Patriots.

Speaker 7 Dan Quinn. Years old.
Second stop. Second stop.
He's going to figure it out.

Speaker 1 How old is he?

Speaker 7 He's physical. He's a physical man.
I think he's 53.

Speaker 1 Did you just put Gary Kubiak in the same 30s? He's 53.

Speaker 7 He got to the Super Bowl. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Okay. Yeah, he got to Super Bowl with the Broncos.

Speaker 1 Should have just gone Pete Carroll. I should have.

Speaker 7 Bill Bellichee. I could narrow that down.
John Gruy.

Speaker 1 Let me narrow that down.

Speaker 13 Actually, let me narrow that down.

Speaker 1 I feel like that was going against what you were saying.

Speaker 7 Everybody that I just mentioned on that list, except for Gary Kubiak. Yeah.
And now Dan Quinn.

Speaker 7 Godfather 2 was better than the first one.

Speaker 1 That's a fact.

Speaker 6 Wayne's World 2 was worse.

Speaker 1 Sorry. Iraq's

Speaker 7 Iraq War II. Yep.

Speaker 1 World War II kicked ass. It did, yeah.

Speaker 7 It was really great. We were the winners.

Speaker 1 We fucking beat the fuck out of the Nazis.

Speaker 6 We did.

Speaker 7 Yeah, if it wasn't for us, the Germans would be speaking Russian right now.

Speaker 1 Just think about that, Hank. You think about that? I've been.

Speaker 1 Listen, PFT, I'm supporting you. Dan Quinn rocks, backwards hat rocks.
Yep. Plays good defense.
Football guy through and through. Leader of men.

Speaker 13 He is.

Speaker 1 And all his players love him. NFC champion.

Speaker 13 NFC champion. NFC champion.

Speaker 7 All his players love him. Micah Parsons said, like, if he goes, maybe I'll go with him.
Oh. So maybe we'll get Micah Parsons.

Speaker 10 I have a question.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Going into this search, what tier would you have put Dan Quinn at on your wish list?

Speaker 1 I don't think he would have mentioned his name. Tier one.

Speaker 1 I think he actually said the other day, please don't have it be Dan Quinn.

Speaker 1 I don't recall saying that.

Speaker 10 There were so many names that were thrown out here on this show for the Commander's next head coach, and I don't think one

Speaker 7 Dan Quinn. Here's another thing.
We have a rookie GM, right? He helped to assemble the San Francisco 49ers' entire roster. Now he's our general manager.

Speaker 7 Rookie GM, I think you'd probably want an experienced head coach, not a rookie head coach that doesn't know how this whole thing's run.

Speaker 10 Good thing there weren't any other experienced head coaches on the market.

Speaker 1 Well, there weren't any.

Speaker 7 There weren't any.

Speaker 1 That'd have been head coaches more recently.

Speaker 7 There weren't any.

Speaker 1 And better at it.

Speaker 7 All the ones that were on the market wanted control, wanted roster control.

Speaker 1 Do you know that for a fact?

Speaker 7 Rabel. Rabel's a control guy, yeah.

Speaker 1 He confirmed that?

Speaker 7 No, he's a control guy.

Speaker 1 I think he's a go-with-the-flow guy. He's a player's coach.
Yeah.

Speaker 12 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Well, the reason why he butted heads in Tennessee was because they tried to take control away. Pete Carroll.
Got rid of all his good players.

Speaker 1 Pete Carroll wanted control?

Speaker 7 I don't know. I didn't talk to Pete Carroll personally.

Speaker 6 Nick Sabin wanted control?

Speaker 7 Nick Sabin did want control, yes. Okay.

Speaker 7 Okay. I talked to Nick.

Speaker 14 Okay. Well, PFT, you're defending Dan Quinn right now.
We actually have a clip from the interview with Pete Prisco where maybe you weren't such a big player.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 6 You got to probably play that.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 I actually have it loaded.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 wow. So someone actually, they did the work here.

Speaker 7 And Quinn go back to Seattle. I think probably.
But you have to, like, at least, if you're the Seahawks, you have to have a little bit of concern after that playoff game.

Speaker 7 I know it's one game, and you can't really judge that based, you know, on the body of evidence that he's done in Dallas.

Speaker 7 But it would make me think, like, yeah, maybe we should interview a couple other guys.

Speaker 7 I stand by that.

Speaker 6 It was a bad playoff game. Okay.
But I think he.

Speaker 1 That wasn't a damning clip.

Speaker 7 He got a little bit of the Cowboys in him in that playoff game. Yeah.
And, you know, you can look at what he's done in the last two seasons in Dallas. He's awesome.
Dan Quinn's awesome. Hat backwards.

Speaker 1 Is there a part of you, Hank, that is lashing out like this because you just lost your defensive coordinator?

Speaker 6 Good question.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know what the Cowboys are doing.

Speaker 7 Oh, I know what they're doing. They're actually going to interview Ron Rivera.

Speaker 1 If I'm Jerry Jones,

Speaker 1 I'm finding a way to get Belichick, Vrabel, and

Speaker 1 Pete Carroll on the same staff. Oh, you're trying

Speaker 1 Saban.

Speaker 7 You're assembling the movie Old Dogs. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it would be awesome. Ronald Sandler should be on it as well.
I don't know if he was in that movie, but it sounds like he could be.

Speaker 7 He probably liked it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He probably was like, damn, I should have thought of this first.
But yeah, they

Speaker 1 keep Mike McCarthy is insane with all these other coaches just not coaching next year. Okay, so can I be honest?

Speaker 1 You won't be the coach by like October.

Speaker 7 Permission to be honest.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 7 Dan Guyn was not in my first tier of desired coaches. There were some other names that have been thrown out there.

Speaker 6 What about tier two?

Speaker 7 Looking forward to it. I didn't do a tier two.
I just had a tier one.

Speaker 1 But if you were to retroactively, he was number one back.

Speaker 7 He was tier one of tier two.

Speaker 10 I think there was a tier two.

Speaker 1 I think there might be a tier one. I think there was

Speaker 10 Ben Johnson, tier one.

Speaker 1 Belichick.

Speaker 10 No, I think that's Ben Johnson and Slow Rick were tier one.

Speaker 1 I remember you saying Johnson or Slow Rick.

Speaker 1 Tier two was Belichick Vrabel. Belichick Vrabel.
And three

Speaker 6 was

Speaker 1 tier three. Yeah.
Yeah, we'll give you tier three. All right, so tier four was Dan Glen.

Speaker 7 He was tier one of tier two. That's where he was on my list.

Speaker 7 Not a very exciting hire. I'll say that.
Now,

Speaker 7 I did assemble a tier one, but you have to take into account the fact that I am very dumb and I have some extremely bad football takes.

Speaker 7 So if you were me and you were running an NFL franchise,

Speaker 7 there's no confidence there. Like, I would be very, very bad at running an NFL friendly friend.

Speaker 1 So you don't sell yourself short. Wait, so you might have been the reason why they hired Dan Quinn.
I think he'd be great. No, I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 I think they were listening to you and they're like, PFT wants Ben Johnson and Bobby Slowic and Bill Belichick.

Speaker 6 We can't do that.

Speaker 7 If it were up to me, every single play would be like three downfield laterals followed by a 65-yard field goal. Right.
So you should not.

Speaker 6 Ben Johnson probably could draw that up.

Speaker 7 You should not listen to my opinions when it comes to football. And I had the opinion that I wanted Ben Johnson.
My opinion is probably incorrect. Got it.
I did not want Dan Quinn in my first tier.

Speaker 7 So therefore, it's like George Costanza when the reverse of everything he wants to do is right.

Speaker 7 I think he's a good football coach. I think he's a leader in men.
I think he's a great defensive coordinator.

Speaker 7 And I think he's going into a stable edition of the Washington franchise, which we haven't seen in a very long time.

Speaker 7 And I have no choice but to just let's get a fucking Quinnsurrection going on in D.C. Okay.
Let's do it.

Speaker 1 So he's going to coach up Drake May or Jaden Daniels.

Speaker 7 We're going to get a good coordinator for that. Yeah.
And we do have some good coordinator options. I heard a Kubiak's name being thrown around.

Speaker 7 And we know the history with the Kubiak coach.

Speaker 1 They were on that list.

Speaker 7 They were fantastic. Great, great people.

Speaker 1 Ben Johnson.

Speaker 7 Well, Ben Johnson could do it. Yeah.
I'd also just, we get it.

Speaker 7 We discussed this with Booger when it happens, but in a way, now the graphic, I might have defeated the graphic where now it's Atlanta Falcons former coaches on that one coaching staff.

Speaker 7 And you've got Dan Quinn, who's now a head coach, plus all those other guys that were in Washington that were also on Kyle's staff. So now it's like that Falcons team.

Speaker 7 Can you believe that team never won a Super Bowl? Yeah, that was crazy. That was crazy.
I can't believe that.

Speaker 10 That was nuts. Mike McDonald was also above Dan Quinn on these days.

Speaker 1 Oh, stop forgetting. That's right.
I forgot about that. He had the dream.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're telling me. Yeah, he had the dream.
Because you do take credit when your dreams come true. That's fair.
So you got to also take the opposite when they don't.

Speaker 7 This was a, it was an incorrect dream, hand up, but that's not me. That's my dream.

Speaker 1 But when your dream is right,

Speaker 1 you get credit for it.

Speaker 7 I think my dreams are three and one now.

Speaker 10 I was with you when you found out that Mike McDonald was going to the Seahawks. I don't think you were too happy about that.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 12 It's whatever.

Speaker 1 Whatever. I just.

Speaker 1 Stay tuned if you're watching the YouTube to see his face when he sees

Speaker 1 the news. It's great.

Speaker 7 I thought about that after the fact, and I'm pretty sure I heard the news, and then I looked down, I took like a deep breath, and I was like, okay.

Speaker 1 He was like Jared McGuire

Speaker 1 when they show him getting married, and he has that face. He's like, I don't know if I want to do this.

Speaker 7 Or like an actor getting into character.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 But guess what? That's my character. I just, I changed myself.
I'm a Dan Quinn guy. I do think that it's going to, he's a solid hire.

Speaker 6 We've had him on the show, right?

Speaker 7 No, we've talked to him.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's right. We've got to get him on the show now.
Yeah. Maybe we'll get him on the show in the combine.
Serious program.

Speaker 7 Soupy. Yeah, we'll talk to him at the Super Bowl next year when he's in it.

Speaker 1 You think it's Soupy?

Speaker 7 I'm not. It's too early to say Soup.
I don't want to put that pressure on Dan. Yeah, let's not put that pressure on Danielle.

Speaker 1 Let's wait till they go, like, what was it, like, 3-1?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And Soupy. Yeah.

Speaker 7 I think it was 2-0.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 But if we'd gone through,

Speaker 7 then it would be Soupy. Yeah.
Listen, I. Was that the perm bat? I'm a fan.

Speaker 1 No, it was the tattoo bat. He's got it right there.

Speaker 7 I'm a fan of some bad teams. So just

Speaker 7 let me process this and figure out ways where I can convince myself that the future is going to be better.

Speaker 6 Don't let Hank button.

Speaker 1 Don't let Hank do this to you.

Speaker 1 Don't let Max do this to you.

Speaker 6 Nick Siriani sucks.

Speaker 7 He does suck.

Speaker 1 Gerard Mayo was like, they just hired the guy who just happened to be there and had Belichick's playbook.

Speaker 7 You wish you had a leader of men, Max. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We, me, me and PFT, we got great defensive coordinators as our head coaches.

Speaker 1 You know what? We have a great defensive player as our head coach. Old school football works.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Stop the run, run the football. Yeah.
We have guys that are better suited for a different job as our head coaches. Yeah,

Speaker 1 we have great defensive coordinators. Rookie quarterbacks coming in.

Speaker 7 I actually think that if the Bears and the Commanders were in the playoffs this year, we could have done some damage. Damage.
We're built for January.

Speaker 1 Damage. By the way, I saw Vic Fangio.
There was a headline that Vic Fangio, it was like

Speaker 1 Miami players

Speaker 1 got caught in the Miami scene and weren't focused on football.

Speaker 1 And I read it so quickly, I thought it was Vic Fangio got caught in the Miami scene, and it ruled for like those 10 seconds that my brain couldn't catch up. I was like, imagine Vic Fangio

Speaker 1 out on South Beach being like, that's why their defense fell apart.

Speaker 7 Maybe got caught up in like the hardcore shuffleboard scene. Yeah.
They're like bingo halls.

Speaker 1 So, yeah. All right.
Listen, we're all in the up and up.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I basically got a three-time Super Bowl champion as my head coach. So I'm happy with that.
Yeah.

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Speaker 1 All right, what else before we do the bonk list?

Speaker 6 I did see,

Speaker 6 I'm actually, I'm going to change a take.

Speaker 1 I liked the NBA doing the MVP rules for, you know, you have to play 65 games. We're now finding out there might be some unintended consequences.

Speaker 7 There's some really good players out there that are, I guess, they're injured or scared to play some games, and then they're not going to be eligible for the MVP at the end of the year.

Speaker 6 Correct.

Speaker 1 So, well, Joe MB did get, he was out on Saturday, he was out on Monday, and then he tried to play on Wednesday and got re-injured.

Speaker 10 This is your guy's fault.

Speaker 1 This is your guy's fault. People are saying he was trying to play because he wants to reach the amount of games to get the MVP.

Speaker 1 There might be some unintended consequences.

Speaker 7 But MVP is pretty important, right? Like when you win the MVP, you usually win the NBA Finals.

Speaker 10 You guys aren't allowed to do this. I'm stopping this right now.
You're not allowed to do this.

Speaker 7 Who's showing?

Speaker 2 Because you just, the whole time against Jokic, you said he ducked because he wasn't hurt and he just didn't want to to play Jokic. And now you're saying, oh, he should have never played?

Speaker 1 All right, so it's got to be one or the other. Oh, sorry.
It's got to be one or the other. He might be right.
You see, Max did a Villan Nova podcast. Did he, really? Oh, he did Max.
It's crazy.

Speaker 14 He squashed the beef with

Speaker 10 me and Alan Ray, Nova Legend. Shout out Rainin' Threes.

Speaker 12 They're going to be really bump.

Speaker 1 Was Alan Ray the guy who got his eye popped out? Yeah, that's an all-time shit.

Speaker 10 He called me a clown for saying that I wanted Kyle Neptune fired. And then

Speaker 10 there was a big, there was a beef, and then he asked me to come on his show.

Speaker 12 Lovely.

Speaker 7 I like that. He understands how the podcast ecosystem works.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 You call someone a clown, and then you bring them on your show to refute the clown allegations.

Speaker 10 Yeah, now we're friends.

Speaker 1 So you're no longer a clown.

Speaker 1 No longer a clown.

Speaker 10 Yeah, no, now we're friends.

Speaker 7 Now, did you go on the show and tuck your tail between your legs and be like, hey, Ellen Ray, I'd just like to be friends with you because you're a legend.

Speaker 7 Or were you like, why did you call me a clown? Did you hash that out?

Speaker 10 I mean, you stand ten times down? We hashed it out, but

Speaker 10 I still said that I think Cloud and Neptune should be fired. No, no, I definitely didn't do that.

Speaker 1 All right, so then I know you weren't as heated as you were.

Speaker 7 No, I wasn't heated on business.

Speaker 10 No, I was a professional. I was just talking Nova Hoops.

Speaker 1 Mac, I did watch a clip, and Max, for anyone who ever accuses Max of doing a shtick, he told a very funny story that the day that Jay Wright retired, Max was going on his third date with his current girlfriend, and he met her at a restaurant and was like, listen, I just want to let you know I've had the worst day of my life, and the vibes might be off for this date.

Speaker 6 So that is who he is, through and through.

Speaker 10 Yeah, and then I was talking to my girlfriend about it later.

Speaker 10 Later, that night ended.

Speaker 10 It was a Sixers playoff game, and then we went to a sports bar and Joelle and Bede hit like a, it was the first round, so we hit like a shot to put it into overtime, and I was just at another table because there were Sixers fans, so I was just watching the game.

Speaker 1 See, this is good. This is how good relationships start.
You set the precedents.

Speaker 1 Like, if you're going to, if you're going to, if you love to golf and you, like, get a girlfriend, like, make sure you golf a lot so she knows what to expect.

Speaker 10 I was also wearing a Sixers windbreaker to the date.

Speaker 1 Oh, nice, classy. It was a Sixers playoff game.

Speaker 10 But yeah, she was like, oh, yeah, I remember that well.

Speaker 1 You were a lunatic. Well, they let the,

Speaker 1 you can wear a Sixers Windbreaker to a quiz nose. That's no problem.

Speaker 10 It was some nice Korean barbecue place.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Max doing podcasts. Me was doing stand-up.
Pug sitting courtside or the

Speaker 1 all the boys are going Hollywood. Pug was courtside of the Seton Hall DePaul game, which I think they paid him to sit that close.

Speaker 7 It was a good look, though. They were right behind the camera, making some funny faces.
It's just pug. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Good, clean pugs. Just love pug.
Pug life. All right.
Anything else in the sports? Well, we're obviously gearing up for the Super Bowl.

Speaker 6 By the way, Monday, we have a very big guest.

Speaker 1 So get excited. Get very excited.
We got some great Super Bowl content coming.

Speaker 1 Anything else before we do Bonkless?

Speaker 7 There was a... Lewis Hamilton.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, Louis Hamilton. Oh, yeah, Louis Hamilton.
Ferrari's back. Ferrari Dan's back.
Live and PGA merged.

Speaker 7 Essentially. There's some other stuff going on, too, with them.

Speaker 1 I can't control the track of all of them.

Speaker 14 I mean, it's not a done, done deal.

Speaker 7 There's regulations and shit.

Speaker 7 There was an unfortunate picture of Patrick Mahomes that came out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was.

Speaker 7 He was upset. He said they did him dirty.
He was rocking the dad bod.

Speaker 1 He had a little bit of a pouch.

Speaker 7 I think it's good if your quarterback's a little bit chunky, a little bit fat. It's natural padding.
It absorbs some of the hits. Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, these guys weren't in the best shape.

Speaker 7 It's all about pliability. Pliability, exactly.
Lamar. Did you see that? Lamar Jackson should get fat.

Speaker 1 Did you see that clip, by the way, of talking about pliability?

Speaker 1 Someone did a clip of Patrick Mahomes' off-season workouts, and he was doing the exact same knee bends that he did in that sack, where it looked like he was going to tear both his legs, and he got out of it.

Speaker 6 You got to practice it. It's all pliability, baby.

Speaker 1 Yeah, pliability. Yeah, no,

Speaker 6 that was a fucked-up picture.

Speaker 1 But yeah, Lewis Hamilton and the Ferrari is going to be huge. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I really wish I hadn't gotten into F1 because someone tweeted me. They're like, Ferrari likes to bring on former champions so it can remind them that they once were champions.

Speaker 1 And that hurt my feelings, even though I like, why am I a Ferrari fan? I can't even remember. I think it's

Speaker 1 a car.

Speaker 7 And it was cool to just wear the Ferrari looking. Yeah, the red car.
It's the red car. People think that you own a Ferrari.

Speaker 1 No, it's a guy in Drives to Survive when he's like, when you ask a little kid to draw a car, what color is it? Red.

Speaker 7 I was like, yeah. It makes sense.

Speaker 1 That's fucking rocks. I'm in.
I'm a Ferrari guy, Lewis Hamilton. Sir, Sir Lewis Hamilton.

Speaker 7 There's no sport that I like to pretend to be interested in for like, I don't know, maybe a second every week when it's in season. There's no sport more important in that category to me than F1.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 I don't even think I'm at a second anymore.

Speaker 1 I'm like negative seconds.

Speaker 7 Negative seconds? Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's how fast I am off the start. Yeah.

Speaker 7 It's crazy. P1.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Caitlin Clark was playing in Evanston last night. We didn't go.
Whoops.

Speaker 14 Tickets were very expensive. How expensive?

Speaker 14 Very expensive.

Speaker 7 Let me know when Sabrina Jonescu is coming to

Speaker 7 Sabrina Ionescu.

Speaker 1 By the way,

Speaker 1 that's the other thing.

Speaker 1 Once football ends, we're going to be getting into basketball.

Speaker 1 We have an NBA preview we're taping with Ryan Rosillo during Super Bowl week, so that'll be great.

Speaker 1 I watch college basketball every night. Chris Collins' ejection ruled.
I don't know if you guys saw it, but he got ejected and he did the meme, like, I want to shake your hand, sir.

Speaker 1 Stopped and went and shook Purdue's coach. Why is his name?

Speaker 1 Matt Payner.

Speaker 6 He's a loser.

Speaker 1 Shook his hand.

Speaker 14 And Zach Edie.

Speaker 1 And Zach Edie, and then he pumped up the crowd.

Speaker 14 Yeah.

Speaker 12 I did a breakdown on my team.

Speaker 1 Purdue is, by the way, so prime for classic Purdue.

Speaker 7 It's going to happen.

Speaker 1 I know that I shouldn't be saying this because the Badgers, I think, play them for the first time this weekend, but they're prime.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I actually think Zach Edie just doesn't want to play basketball anymore.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's just so tall.

Speaker 15 He's so tall.

Speaker 1 I've just been taking his over points and rebounds every game.

Speaker 7 He's big. He's a large man.
That's it.

Speaker 14 General mission was 230 yesterday.

Speaker 7 Shit, we should have gone.

Speaker 7 230?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 230 people?

Speaker 1 Dollars. Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 All right, of course it was.

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Speaker 1 For people who are not aware, maybe new listeners, we're going to do the 2023 bonk list. This is every time that Hank has decided we have said something horny on the show and therefore got bonked.

Speaker 1 It's kind of a nice trip down memory lane of the past year.

Speaker 7 Yeah, and there's usually one or two things that Hank puts on this list that aren't horny, but Hank's and he interprets them as being horny.

Speaker 1 So it's a reflection

Speaker 7 will make Hank that actually goes on your list. Yeah.

Speaker 7 What are we going to put you down for this last month, Hank?

Speaker 1 Do I have an entire month on the bonk list? Maybe go down to Dallas.

Speaker 1 We're going to get

Speaker 1 into the origin story on this list.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I have not been making one for this year. I also, because the first year I did it in secret, that was kind of the whole joke.
And then I revealed it.

Speaker 1 And so I thought it might be jumping the shark because sometimes you guys are aware you're saying things to make the bonk list. You got to understand.
So

Speaker 1 I wasn't as intensive this year. Okay.
There's probably some things. Nice way of just saying you just didn't do your job.
No, I have one. Shut the fuck up.
I have all I have them. I have them here.

Speaker 7 But you realize that was a classic Billy football.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You realize that it's still in secret because we can't remember what we said yesterday.
All right, so I need to do one this year again.

Speaker 14 Yes. I have a partial list.

Speaker 1 Okay, nice. You can add to it, but there's no, you could tell me.
Jake.

Speaker 14 It means that I think I was supposed to back you up, and I stopped after February.

Speaker 6 He's got a semi.

Speaker 1 So you have a two-month list. Yeah.
I see that. That's where I like, that's Billy.

Speaker 1 I was also backing you off. Yeah.
Sounds like you weren't.

Speaker 7 Yeah, you weren't. No, you're, you're, that's what you're doing right now is Billy because you're blaming Jake for not doing a good enough job of doing your job for him.

Speaker 1 I did it. I did my job.
I didn't stop in February. Okay.
But you also were, because it was in secret and you don't want to do it so obvious, you stopped.

Speaker 1 No, I just didn't realize, like, again, the first bonk list was all me. You didn't task me the assignment.
I was like, this is something I'm going to do because it'll be funny.

Speaker 1 I thought that the shine wore off a little bit. No.
And it wouldn't be anything. Once a year? No.
There's no shine wearing off.

Speaker 7 He did it one time to great commercial and critical acclaim. And he's like, I don't want to.

Speaker 1 It might be. I'm not a sellout.
I'm just doing it too. Yeah, I'm not a sellout.
I don't want to be a singer. You're like PVT.
Jump the shark. One time only.

Speaker 1 Starting off hot, I don't know the context for this, and I don't think this is true. Maybe it is.
I don't know. The first entry, 1622, is just Billy fucked a MILF at the airport on New Year's Eve.

Speaker 1 Oh, I don't remember any of that. Me neither.

Speaker 1 I'm not. This is allegedly, I guess.
We'll throw allegedly in there. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 6 We'll throw allegedly in there.

Speaker 1 There's no contacts. I don't know.
Maybe

Speaker 1 backup boy has to be able to do that.

Speaker 14 I have that.

Speaker 1 Backup boy.

Speaker 14 He got delayed at the airport.

Speaker 1 That was the first time. Oh, and we probably were like,

Speaker 6 fuck. Yeah, yeah, all right.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That makes sense.
1-6,

Speaker 1 January 6th, PFT asked me if I had a squirter in my bed. Okay.

Speaker 1 January, PFT says Major Tutty needs a bigger ass.

Speaker 7 He does. The pig mascot is not.
He's not packing anything.

Speaker 1 January 15th, Big Cat calls Daniel Jones hot. Oh, it's the jawline picture.

Speaker 1 Remember that in the playoff game?

Speaker 7 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 They showed him, and it was like his jaw was so chiseled.

Speaker 13 He was hot.

Speaker 1 January, PFT calls the neck concussion thing a cock ring for your neck. Yep.

Speaker 7 Yes.

Speaker 7 I was proven correct on that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Same science. And I think you also told us that you put on a cockring.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I admitted to it. At one point in my life, I wore a cockring during intercourse, yes.

Speaker 1 It wasn't for me.

Speaker 1 Congrats on the sex. Thanks.

Speaker 1 January still. PFT asked Julian Edelman if he's ever hung out with Jules, who works on Inside the NFL, just because they have the same name.

Speaker 1 Okay. Who's Jules?

Speaker 1 I think a producer. Who works on Inside the NFL? Is that a public figure?

Speaker 7 Backup boy?

Speaker 7 I think Julian mentioned Jules.

Speaker 14 I have. That's all I have.
It was from the January 27th, Julian Edelman interview.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 Wait, no, that might not be her.

Speaker 1 There's an NFL Jules.

Speaker 1 That's a fair bonk.

Speaker 7 I think Julian Edelman brought her up several times, and then I, as a journalist, I inquired.

Speaker 12 Got it.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 PFT says the first thing he would do as mayor of Cincinnati would check out the Nancy Regan files, first things first. Yep.
Then the Harambe tapes.

Speaker 1 True.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 131. PFT makes up a fact about the Super Bowl having the most Johnsons in it.
Hmm. Okay.
Okay. That's not really a bonk.

Speaker 7 I'm observing things.

Speaker 1 I wish I had more context for these, and I might have messed up the grammar.

Speaker 1 Who should be blamed for that?

Speaker 14 It's my fault.

Speaker 7 This is exactly what I did the first year, so shut the fuck up because it's exactly what I did the first time.

Speaker 1 So there's no one to blame. I just.

Speaker 1 Jake brought a rosin bag, and it was great because it made the holes tight and helped that they would never slip out.

Speaker 14 Yeah, for the bowling punishment.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 That was a year ago yesterday. Yeah.

Speaker 14 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Thanks, Jake.

Speaker 1 He didn't say happy birthday. He said on your birthday.

Speaker 1 So thanks.

Speaker 1 No, no, I'm saying right then. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. He said on your birthday.

Speaker 1 February now, Big Cat said, a guy hit me up last night, and I almost had to skull fuck him.

Speaker 1 When was that? In regards to Pete Weber not playing in the U.S. Open.

Speaker 6 Oh, yeah, there's a guy that called.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, wait, no, we already talked to him. Yeah, yeah.
Remember, tried to do that. I think Pete Weber actually played in the qualifying this year.

Speaker 7 So I think he might be back. So skull fucking works.

Speaker 12 Yeah, so we did it.

Speaker 1 February 2nd, Big Cat decided to have another kid. Yep.
Yep.

Speaker 1 Okay. Fair.
Big Cat told Jake his mom was hot. If you're that hot, you have to have four kids.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yep.

Speaker 14 You guys have done that a few times on that time in the show.

Speaker 1 In our defense, she's hot. I don't really know what you want us to say.

Speaker 1 Comes up like every six months.

Speaker 1 And she swears.

Speaker 6 She took my heart when she swore in front of me. She's like, I don't know why Jake doesn't fucking swear.

Speaker 1 And I was like, God damn it.

Speaker 1 February 5th, PFT, quote: It's bad to go all the way in. Sometimes just the tip is better.
Talking about the next trade after Kyrie. I'm going all the way.

Speaker 7 Oh, I heard a crazy stat today.

Speaker 1 Did you see they did, by the way, the

Speaker 1 tribute video for KD. Yeah.

Speaker 7 KD asked them not to.

Speaker 1 And they still did.

Speaker 7 But this is a crazy stat. Right now, the big three on the Suns, Beal, Booker, and KD, have played more games together than the big three on the Pets ever did.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I believe it.

Speaker 7 Isn't that crazy? They never played.

Speaker 17 That's insane.

Speaker 1 Because remember, Kyrie missed an entire year, then James Harden got hurt, then he won traded. It's crazy.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 PFT asked J.J. Watt what his wife's at is.
Okay. Fair.
Big Cat says to J.J. Watt, you can always just throw a nut in him to slow him down.

Speaker 6 Oh, that's about TJ

Speaker 1 Watt. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he does have a nut allergy. that's more of a bunk on you

Speaker 1 i mean you told a guy you can always throw a nut in him to slow him down

Speaker 7 but it's factual i i hear both sides of this

Speaker 1 uh i want to the ai chat bot which one of you said that pft had that for uh micro i was asking them oh i thought yeah i thought you didn't have it i did the microsoft one oh oh yeah no the the microsoft ai chat bot bot is a baddie yeah she's cool how about the girl on the train you ever see that one the movie no the ai I read that book.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. That's the only book that I've read.
No one knows the train. I just wanted to say that I read that book.

Speaker 6 Credit to Max. Read that book.

Speaker 1 There's like a picture of a girl on a train. She's so fucking hot.

Speaker 13 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 6 Yeah, but she's AI.

Speaker 1 Yeah, try it out my alley. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Mark Titus.

Speaker 1 Why?

Speaker 7 Because you like women in transportation?

Speaker 1 I mean, we'll get into it. Oh, okay.
I got it. Mark Titus thinks it's a bonk when Big Cat said,

Speaker 1 I have a box for you.

Speaker 7 That's on Mark.

Speaker 1 Mark's a horny motherfucker. That's one thing I've learned in the last six months working with him.
The dude is rocked up all the time.

Speaker 7 Yeah, he walks around the office with an erection.

Speaker 1 And he says, sorry, excuse me.

Speaker 1 Hot erection coming through.

Speaker 7 That's why nobody wants to guard him. That's why he's so good at basketball.

Speaker 1 He's poking you with this boner. PFT makes up a pineapple trophy in college basketball.
Okay, swingers.

Speaker 12 Big cat says.

Speaker 12 The CBI.

Speaker 14 The CBI has golden pineapple.

Speaker 7 Yeah, thank you, Jake.

Speaker 1 Learn ball, Hank. All right.
Bitcat said he would fuck Sister Jean. Yep, I would.
PFT says,

Speaker 1 PFT says he would fuck Princeton Stadium. Okay.
Oh, I would too. He's a good looking guy.
That basketball court is so sick. Jake says he loves sitters when talking about basketball wedgies.

Speaker 1 Oh, sitters are awesome. Yeah, they are.

Speaker 14 At first, that tournament was magical.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Big Cat says Mrs.
K would look great in sweaters, comma, sweater puppies.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 PFT calls Russell wrong.

Speaker 1 What? Whoa. PFT calls Russell Westbrook a good-looking guy.

Speaker 12 He is.

Speaker 7 He is a good-looking guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's just guys supporting guys. PFT says Casey Anthony, hate to watch her go, but love to watch her leave.
Facts.

Speaker 13 Yep.

Speaker 1 Bumper.

Speaker 1 PFT says he loves fucking our cheesesteak fries. Yep.

Speaker 1 PFT says he wants to watch John Madden and Dolly Parton fuck.

Speaker 7 In heaven.

Speaker 1 As king and queen. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 7 She's not in heaven. Yeah, she's not in heaven, but yes.

Speaker 1 Don't kill her. Don't kill her.

Speaker 1 Take it back.

Speaker 7 She should be queen, though. She should be queen of America.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Billy thought

Speaker 1 Tiana Taylor was Tiana Trump. Okay.

Speaker 7 That makes sense.

Speaker 1 Martha Stewart is the definition of baddie. Big cat.
I want to suck a fart out of her ass and spit it in PFT's mouth.

Speaker 6 She's so hot.

Speaker 1 I don't care.

Speaker 8 What is she, like, 80?

Speaker 1 Yeah. She's great.
And she's done hard time. Yeah.
My mama loves Martha Stewart. So do I.
There's a picture like in my house. It's all family pictures.

Speaker 1 And then me and Martha Stewart when we did her for the quarter. Yeah.
It's like so I didn't realize how big of a fan she was. She's hot as fuck.

Speaker 1 Who's back of the week? Brest, PFT commenter. Okay.

Speaker 1 PFT wants to see Ricky stick his throat down Allison Stoke after the Ryder Cup.

Speaker 7 Yeah, because he didn't get that kiss after the Ryder Cup in that old picture. So I would like to see him have a redemption story.

Speaker 1 Big Cat thinks Lane Kiffin's super hot. He is.
He's lost a lot of weight. He's gotten hot.
He got hot. He's always got a tan.

Speaker 1 And like, I don't know. Something about Lane Kiffen just does it for me.

Speaker 7 Yeah, he has definitely worked himself back into shape.

Speaker 1 Remember when I said that, when he came on last time, and I was like, you look good.

Speaker 6 You look like you've lost weight.

Speaker 1 And he's like, that's a weird thing to say to another guy.

Speaker 1 I think he kind of liked it.

Speaker 7 He's playing hard to get. No one's ever talked to him like that before.

Speaker 1 It's more where that came from, Lane.

Speaker 1 This is August. Big Cat tweets out a video, and the caption was slapply going next level.
It was literally just a video of asses getting slapped

Speaker 1 in slow motion. Yep.
Yeah. I know that video.
It's awesome.

Speaker 1 Big Cat said Jackie's ass was out, and she has a donk on the day of JFK's assassination. She was.
She does. She's got a fucking dumper.

Speaker 7 She knew what she was wearing.

Speaker 1 September 8th. How do you think she got that fucking rich Greek guy to marry her? Yeah.
September 8th.

Speaker 7 She had that old dude, Zapruder. She was like, hey, just make sure to film me when we're going down the highway because

Speaker 1 I've got it all hanging out. Especially the thirst track.

Speaker 1 If my husband's brains get blown out, just make sure you get that ass shot.

Speaker 7 Hey, John, you know, there's going to be some cameras out on the parade route today.

Speaker 13 Let's let's uh pull the top down of the convertible.

Speaker 1 Do you actually can see that she has her uh the heel move that girls do to show their ass?

Speaker 6 She had her heel up.

Speaker 1 Let's play guess who tweeted this. Okay,

Speaker 1 every time I'm in an airport, I've got my head on a swivel to see if Tiffany Gomez is there too.

Speaker 1 I think that was

Speaker 1 me.

Speaker 6 Yeah, PFT. Interesting.

Speaker 1 Yeah, a lot of tweets to Tiffany Gomez. Interesting.
Okay.

Speaker 1 She's trying to get her on the show.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 1 She's tiff.

Speaker 7 She sent me a very nice birthday text, by the way.

Speaker 1 That's nice. Very nice.

Speaker 1 I just wrote down Lauren Bobert.

Speaker 7 Oh, yeah, the video. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. That was the hottest ever.
It was so good.

Speaker 13 Actually, I'm going to watch it again.

Speaker 7 It was. She was skin felt up.
Yeah, she was vaping.

Speaker 1 And people were getting upset at her because, yeah, there was maybe some little kids around, but hot is hot. And it was a first date.

Speaker 1 She's freaky like that.

Speaker 7 Yeah, and then when she was walking out, she was making sure to pass by the security cameras. Yeah.
Dumping them out a little bit.

Speaker 7 She's hot.

Speaker 1 She's hot as fuck. Big cat says he would watch Tyreek Hill in a porno.
Would. Big Cat says he needs to see penis and vagina in order to believe Travis and Taylor.

Speaker 7 That doesn't sound like that. I don't remember that.

Speaker 1 I don't remember that at all.

Speaker 7 You're sick for making that up.

Speaker 1 Can we make a clip of that and just cut out my part, the big cat part?

Speaker 1 Say it again.

Speaker 1 Big Cat says he needs to see P and V in order to believe that Travis and Taylor are real.

Speaker 7 I don't remember any of that. So

Speaker 1 did I say I need to? Yeah. So

Speaker 1 that's the quote. Big Cat.
I'm just reading what I wrote. Oh, yeah, but what the quote is.
The quote that I wrote

Speaker 1 to quote I note

Speaker 1 Big Cat says he needs to see P and V. No, no, no.
You say that I need to. That's what you said.
No, but you should, it's a quote. It's I said I need to.
You did say it. So you should say the quote.

Speaker 6 No, you said it.

Speaker 1 But say the full quote. Which is, I need to see P and V

Speaker 1 with Taylor and Travis. All right, that's the quote.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Wait, but Big Cat said it.

Speaker 1 Right. Big Cat says he needs to see P and V in order to believe Travis and Taylor.

Speaker 1 PFT challenges Miley to a private debate. Yep.
Yep.

Speaker 1 Don't know the context for this.

Speaker 7 Stop talking to me.

Speaker 1 PFT thinks it's hot. Bride's dress got ripped.

Speaker 7 Hmm. Who is that from?

Speaker 1 October. Okay.

Speaker 1 PFT says he's going to get in his sister Jean's box. Okay.
Yep. And then my last entry, which was Thanksgiving, was Big Cat says Dolly Parton still has it.

Speaker 1 She still does. That's just respect.

Speaker 7 Oh, that was at her performance on Thanksgiving?

Speaker 6 So we haven't said anything bad in the last two months, Hank.

Speaker 1 At all.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mailed it in December.

Speaker 7 No, no, this is interesting because I just found this clip from part of my Take the Podcast, and that looks like Hank right there. Okay.
I believe.

Speaker 1 I need to see P and V in order to believe Taylor and Travis are real. Oh, Hank.

Speaker 7 Why would you say that about Taylor?

Speaker 1 I was quoting Big Cat.

Speaker 7 That's extremely misogynistic of you.

Speaker 1 Well, how so?

Speaker 7 Because you just said it in a way that made me think that you're horny for wanting to see your vagina, when she does not consent to that.

Speaker 1 I didn't say vagina. I got one.

Speaker 1 Hank said that Midway and O'Hare are four hours apart so that he could stay an extra day at Tiffany Gomez's house.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that's a good one.

Speaker 17 I have a few more.

Speaker 1 It was during football. Oh, okay.

Speaker 14 January 3rd, Hank imagining Big Cat giving head to a hose.

Speaker 14 Maybe because you're talking about hose water.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 14 PFT called George Kittle's 100-year-old grandma good-looking.

Speaker 1 Okay. Respect.
She is.

Speaker 7 Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 8 Good genes.

Speaker 14 And then lastly, Hank likes the Kay Adams show.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 You watch every episode. Gaslight Central.
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 Yeah, entire day of combine watching. Second, though.

Speaker 7 You walk us through the entire rundown of the game.

Speaker 1 All of Kay Adams' show. That's a fact.
Oh, man. The gaslighting's crazy.
No, but you did. You said that.
You're like, Kay Adams? Oh, we should get her on. I love her show.
I watch it every day.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, sure.

Speaker 6 You don't think you said that?

Speaker 1 I know I didn't say that. Remember when Stu made the video of him being the suitcase?

Speaker 6 Yeah,

Speaker 7 that video. That was last year at the Super Bowl, right?

Speaker 7 All-time video.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Her trying to close her suitcase.

Speaker 1 She's lovely. The show is great.
I just don't watch it every day, but maybe I'll show you. So you watch it most days?

Speaker 1 I see clips on Twitter occasionally. Okay.

Speaker 1 The algorithm gets that for you. Yeah.
You watch one, keep going.

Speaker 1 That was a good bonk list, Hank. Yeah.
Thank you.

Speaker 7 Until the last two months. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So are you starting this year's? I will now. Okay.
Maybe with context? You want to start off on the club? No, no, shut the f- No.

Speaker 1 You make your own bonk list, buddy.

Speaker 1 I bookmarked Sidney Sweeney. You put that on there.

Speaker 1 You want to listen to it again?

Speaker 7 I'm not familiar with the clips, so I shouldn't have to.

Speaker 1 Why don't you make a bonk list?

Speaker 7 I think the people like the Hank bonk list, though.

Speaker 6 It's crazy that you can't do just a little bit of work.

Speaker 12 I did the whole fucking thing.

Speaker 1 Wait, wait.

Speaker 7 Did I see the video?

Speaker 1 She's with our friend Sean Evans on hot ones.

Speaker 1 Let's see.

Speaker 1 Oh, some people have un-bookmarked, so we're down to 28,000 bookmarks.

Speaker 7 Hank and I got in a little bookmark battle today about the Dan Quinn situation. Yep.

Speaker 1 The ha ha ha ha ha.

Speaker 7 I've I've never bookmarked a tweet, but I bookmarked Hank's ha ha ha ha ha, and I can't wait to rub it in your face, Hank, when he's good.

Speaker 1 I bookmarked him bookmarking me, and I can't wait to

Speaker 1 get the bookmarks.

Speaker 7 And then we started doing screenshots of the bookmarks to bookmark more things.

Speaker 12 You're going to owe me $20,000. Bookmark battle.

Speaker 1 I love it.

Speaker 7 You're going to owe me $20,000 on the Patriots. Don't make a Super Bowl.
Yep.

Speaker 1 That was one of the dumbest bets ever.

Speaker 1 In the moment, I was like, don't do this, Hank. I think I was drunk.
No,

Speaker 1 after it was gritworking. I know exactly where we were.

Speaker 1 We were in an Ohio hotel,

Speaker 7 eating pizza in the lobby.

Speaker 1 Eating pizza in the lobby, and you were just feeling yourself.

Speaker 7 Well, he was very, very hungry that day because he hadn't basically gotten to eat at all.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Keep you from eating.

Speaker 1 Max actually. Manus the manus.
Because we were landing in Vegas in the afternoon, and Max was like, should we eat before or after?

Speaker 1 we record the show and i

Speaker 1 i ate this no but i could feel that like hank was no hank was kind of looking at me like,

Speaker 1 don't you stop me from eating, me, an adult that can totally get my own food. You're going to fucking make me not eat dinner.

Speaker 1 You act like you're not the mom of the show that's running the show. Like, you can eat.
But you can eat.

Speaker 7 You can make the agenda.

Speaker 1 You're like, all right, this is the day-to-day schedule. Nowhere was there breakfast.
It's fine.

Speaker 1 Everyone knows how it goes.

Speaker 10 I just wanted to know when we could record the show.

Speaker 1 I know, but I saw out of the corner of my eye, Hank was like,

Speaker 1 they're not going to let me eat dinner again.

Speaker 1 You can eat at any time you want.

Speaker 1 All right, we'll keep that in mind. Let's see when that.
Well, no, I mean, there's times when we're working that you could eat before we work.

Speaker 6 You could plan it.

Speaker 1 You could eat whenever we're not scheduled for stuff. I think when we're together as a band of brothers on the road, we do everything together.

Speaker 1 That's how I like to operate with my, you, you know, you're become a little bit more of a divo. You do everything on your own.
What?

Speaker 1 And, and it's like, you don't want to eat with what do I do on my own? You don't want to, you eat on your own. You don't want to eat with the people.
I don't even think I ate breakfast that morning.

Speaker 7 We should start packing snack bags for Hank. Yeah.
It's like granola bars, peanuts.

Speaker 1 Yes, it's a great boxing experience.

Speaker 1 The only diva thing I do is that when you guys want to go to the bar, I'm like, I have one night where I can go to sleep. And I say, I'm going to go to my room and go to sleep.

Speaker 1 That's like the opposite of diva. And you're like, no, I want you to be here so you can tell me when to eat.
I'm basically your domination.

Speaker 1 Would you walk in and host this table for six and one, please?

Speaker 1 I'll be in the back room.

Speaker 1 Oh, well, Hank, you know what? I'm going to make sure that you eat all Vegas. Thank you.
Okay? I'm going to be stuffing you with food.

Speaker 7 Actually, Hank should just eat at the Wind Buffet every meal.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 7 That should be what you have to do.

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Speaker 1 Okay, here he is, Booger McFarland.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on one of our favorite guests, very good friend of the show. It is Booger McFarland.
We figured we hadn't talked to him in a while.

Speaker 1 We're getting close to the end of football season, and we don't talk to you for a few months, so we wanted to have you on, talk some ball, talk some what's going on in Boog's life.

Speaker 1 So thanks for joining us, Boog. How's it going? Let's, I mean, just straight up, like the end of football season, how are are you feeling?

Speaker 1 Because I know we mentally are tired, but we also hate that football is about to end.

Speaker 15 Yeah, what's up, fellas? I'm glad everybody's doing well. Yeah, I feel the same way, man.
I mean, if you think about it, it's a grind all football season, and we look forward to the grind.

Speaker 15 But at a certain point, the grind kind of wears on you. Like, man, I can't wait till this travel ends.

Speaker 15 I can't wait till I stop getting on and off a plane, having to sit there and talk about the same old topics over and over and over.

Speaker 15 And then once you get down to one last game left, you're like, man, what the hell am I going to do with my life for the next four or five months? So it's bittersweet. I enjoy doing this.

Speaker 15 I know you guys enjoy doing what you guys do.

Speaker 15 But it's always kind of sad when we get to the point where there's only one football game left. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Yeah. You get down to the last game, and I do, I agree with you at the end of the season, and maybe to a certain extent at the start of the playoffs, it's the same topics over and over again.

Speaker 7 Dallas Cowboys losing, is Dak the guy, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 7 But then you get to that one last game, and you're like, I really want to squeeze every drop of football football juice out of this one game.

Speaker 7 So I'm going to get way too detailed in my analysis of the Chiefs and the 49ers.

Speaker 15 Yeah, way too detailed. But before we go any further, let's stop.

Speaker 15 I feel like I would be doing a disservice if I didn't say happy birthday to my guy.

Speaker 15 And hopefully I got this right. I was looking on social media that you celebrated a birthday recently, PFT?

Speaker 7 I did. Yeah, it was yesterday.
Thank you, Booger. That's very nice.

Speaker 15 Well, I just want to say happy birthday. I didn't get a chance to say it yesterday.

Speaker 15 i was going to text you but i knew we would be talking this morning happy birthday uh what how old are we 40 what 45 50 i'm 39.

Speaker 7 i'm 39. i i appreciate that because i'm so wise you think i'm older but actually no i'm i'm just a spry 39 year old yeah i'm actually older than pft

Speaker 15 Well, first of all, he looks older. You just look fatter.

Speaker 1 That's kind of the way I look at it. I was just getting even meaner and meaner.

Speaker 7 Booger, do you know, is there anybody else that you'd like to wish a happy birthday to?

Speaker 15 Not really. Who else? Okay.

Speaker 7 It was Big Cat's birthday on Tuesday.

Speaker 1 Yeah, oh, it was your birthday on listening. I'm a day older, I'm a day older than PFT.
I actually believe, you know what, Booger, I don't care because men shouldn't know each other's birthdays.

Speaker 1 That's a fact.

Speaker 15 This is true. Men, the only person's birthday you should know,

Speaker 15 family members, kids, and your wife.

Speaker 15 Like, anybody else, like, if you, if you know your best friend's birthday or your homeboy's birthday, to me, that's a little weird because even though we're best friends, like, we're not going to exchange gifts.

Speaker 15 I'm not going to call you, be like, hey, bro, happy birthday. Let's go hang out.
You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

Speaker 7 Right. Kind of sucks.
I just need one.

Speaker 1 You need, what it really is, is male friendship is you need one guy in your group who knows everyone's birthday. So then they send the text being like, happy birthday, this person.

Speaker 1 And then you're like, oh, yeah, happy birthday. And I never have to learn a birthday.
But yeah, it wasn't on birthday Tuesday. Whatever.
It's not. You don't like me anyway.

Speaker 7 But thank you, Booger. That was really nice of you.

Speaker 15 First of all, you're welcome. Second of all, I do like you.
I only tease you. about your weight and about your ability to control your donut cravings because I do like you.

Speaker 15 And at some point, 20 years from now, when we're done with all this stuff we're doing, I want us to be able to sit back, drink some stellar blue coffee, and reminisce about the good old days when I ripped you to death.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so you'll be able to do that.

Speaker 1 You'll be sitting at my grave site, and you'll be able to talk to me, and it'll be fine. We'll have fun.
You bring some donuts to my grave when I die. I'm like 55.

Speaker 15 You're not going to be dead at 55, big guy.

Speaker 1 Trust me.

Speaker 7 It is true, though. Like, guys, guys shouldn't know.
It's not. Friendship is not about knowing each other's birthdays.
It's about knowing what to make fun of the other guy for. Yeah.

Speaker 7 That's how we say that we love love you.

Speaker 1 It's really when it comes to, like, I don't know if you have this booger, but like, I'll go, like,

Speaker 1 I'm done with the bachelor parties, but, like, I'll go on a guy's trip.

Speaker 1 And at the end of the guy's trip, I'll actually sit my friends down and I'll just ask them like three or four questions that I can bring back to my wife because I know she's going to be like, what's going on with this person?

Speaker 1 What's going on with this person? Because when you're hanging out, you're not talking about that stuff. You're not like, hey, how's your day-to-day life?

Speaker 15 It's amazing the amount of questions my wife asked me. Like, well, well,

Speaker 15 why'd do you do that? Like, I don't know. I never asked it.
Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 Like, what's going on with this? I don't know what, I don't even know what my friends do for a living. I don't care.
Like, I know they're happy. They'll tell me if there's a problem.

Speaker 1 Like, if they ever need me, I'm there for them. But other than that, like, we just, you know, talk about the game.
Hang out.

Speaker 15 Exactly. Talk about the game.
What do you want to order? What are we going to eat? Hey, how much of it are we going to eat? And when are we going to do it again? That's it.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's, yeah, the eating part is

Speaker 1 like family vacations. It's like, if you didn't have the meals, like, you would, you can't go on a family vacation because you got to be like, all right, what are we going to do for lunch?

Speaker 1 All right, where are we going to eat dinner? Okay, day's over.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's it.

Speaker 15 That's pretty much the highlight of the day, buddy.

Speaker 1 All right. I like this.
Adult male friendship is, it is funny the quirks that we all have, that we all share, and we don't realize until we say it out loud. Booger, I wanted to start.

Speaker 1 We're going to talk a little Super Bowl, but I want to start with something you're hot on on Twitter.

Speaker 1 I saw this yesterday. So Jeff Hafley gets hired by the Green Bay Packers as defensive coordinator, gets hired away from Boston College, which he had been doing a pretty good job there.

Speaker 1 And you pointed out that this is going to start happening left and right when it comes to college sports because it's so hard to recruit, to re-recruit, transfer portal, NIL, that we're going to start losing a lot of good coaches from college for what's kind of a step down in terms of coordinator position.

Speaker 1 What's the fix? Because you're right.

Speaker 1 I think this is going to be a trend.

Speaker 15 Yeah, you know what? I don't know what the fix is. I can throw out a bunch of ideas.

Speaker 15 I think college football needs a CBA to kind of govern this because it's clear that the federal government is not going to step in because the laws differ from state to state.

Speaker 15 So I don't think the federal government is going to step in. That's number one.
Number two, I think there needs to be a one-time transfer period. Right now, you got a fall transfer portal period.

Speaker 15 You got a spring transfer portal period.

Speaker 15 Like as soon as the season's over, think about after you've come out of your worst meeting or you come out of your worst event, if somebody asks you a question about the person you met with.

Speaker 15 Like you'd be like, man, he sucks. But if you had a couple of months to cool off, you'd be like, you know what?

Speaker 15 He was probably trying to tell me something that I really needed to hear, but I didn't want to hear because we don't want to hear bad news.

Speaker 15 And that's what happens to these kids after the season when you can transfer in December.

Speaker 15 Like if they didn't play well or they didn't get as much playing time and the coach said, hey, it's going to be competition. Prime example.
Let's look at the Ohio State quarterback, Kyle McCord. 11-1.

Speaker 15 You lost to Michigan. And from what I heard, he went into Ryan Day's office and he wanted to be guaranteed the starting job the next year.
Well, the starting job wasn't guaranteed.

Speaker 15 So him and his dad took their ball and they left and they ran.

Speaker 1 Well, guess what?

Speaker 15 If he couldn't transfer until the spring, do you think Kyle McCorrow would have come back, maybe worked on some of his shortcomings, maybe gotten a little better?

Speaker 15 And then in the spring, if you go through spring practice and you still want to transfer, okay, I can deal with that.

Speaker 15 But some of the emotional transfers that happen in December, I think will be cut out.

Speaker 15 Other things you could do, I'm all for guys making making money, but name, image, and likeness was put in place just for that. What it's turned into now is free agency.

Speaker 15 I got guys calling me saying, yeah, we're in negotiations with Florida State right now. And if negotiations don't go well, we're going to the portal.
What? Negotiations?

Speaker 15 Like, that's where we are right now. And I love college football, guys.
I know there's nothing that we love more than sitting up. on a Saturday morning prepping, getting ready for college football.

Speaker 15 It's different than the NFL. Even though there's there's much more money involved in the National Football League, how much do we enjoy college football and the reasons we enjoy it?

Speaker 15 I just don't want to lose that. And I feel like we're trending toward losing our Saturdays because

Speaker 15 I don't want Saturdays to be like Sundays. Like there's a difference between Saturday and Sunday and I want to keep that the same.
I agree.

Speaker 1 Yep. I wholeheartedly agree.

Speaker 7 Absolutely. And you're right.
I think that college football was broken for a very long time in terms of the money that was going to the schools, to the organizations, to the conferences.

Speaker 7 And then the players weren't getting anything despite the fact that they were the product and they were putting all the labor into it.

Speaker 7 And now it seems like the lack of any rules whatsoever is making it so it's much harder to enjoy the sport, enjoy the identity of the team that you thought that you used to be so like deeply emotionally involved in.

Speaker 7 And I don't know what it is. Like with the CBA, I don't know who's going to put that in place.
Like, do you think the NCAA is going to step up and do that?

Speaker 7 Because it seems to me the NCAA, their mindset right now is like, we don't know what's happening and we're afraid of doing anything because we're just going to get sued by the schools if we do something that they don't like.

Speaker 15 The NCAA is useless. It's like me talking to Big Kat about a diet.
Like, it's just useless. Like, I'm seriously, like, think about this.

Speaker 15 They will pick and choose what they want to investigate. They will pick and choose when they want to rule.
Like, they're still ruling on things from, like, 2021. Like,

Speaker 15 we're in 2024 now. So, what good is the quote-unquote good old boy network, which is a bunch of guys in an old antiquated system where they ran college sports? Well, guess what?

Speaker 15 The only thing they they really run right now is March Madness. Other than that, the power five in football is running college football.

Speaker 15 Greg Sankey is the most powerful person in college football that commissioned the SEC.

Speaker 15 So if we want to deem a czar or a commissioner of college football, I'm going to nominate Greg Sankey because whatever the SEC does, and I know the Big Ten is kind of making some moves, I would put the SEC in the Big Ten.

Speaker 15 But since Greg Tankey has kind of been in the forefront, whatever Greg wants to do, I think everybody else will follow.

Speaker 15 So let's nominate him and make him the czar of the commissioner of college football. And just go ahead and

Speaker 15 stop playing like it's the quote-unquote NCAA. No, it's the power five or the big two or three or four, depending on what the ACC does in Florida State and Clemson.

Speaker 15 And just separate from the rest of those,

Speaker 15 have a quote unquote invitational.

Speaker 15 And determine a champion that way, because that's ultimately where we're headed right now. If we're acting like the NCAA is actually governing the power five, then we're fooling ourselves.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I agree with you. And I also also think that, like,

Speaker 1 why isn't there, I know we've tried to make it the 12-team playoff, we're going to get some more group of five teams involved. But to me, it's like, okay, we have the power of five.

Speaker 1 We know there's going to always be a gap. Like, Alabama playing Cincinnati.
Cincinnati was a great story that year. You play that game 100 times.
Alabama wins probably 99, 100 times.

Speaker 1 Why not have the group of five play for a championship as well? Because guess what? That's like, that will still mean something.

Speaker 1 And the kids want to play for a championship and that's still like you could do a separate like why why not why why not have two different playoffs well i think you could have that but don't you think ucf and danny white would kind of feel a little you know yeah that's fine but they would still get to play for a national title it would be a little bit different but i would i think people would i think people would be in on it So, okay, people might be in on it.

Speaker 15 So if we did this, let's play this hypothetical out. Does UCF have to turn in their championship they won a few years ago or can they roll that forward?

Speaker 8 They can repeat it.

Speaker 14 Yeah, they can keep it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they can keep that one.

Speaker 7 And you can definitely claim a national championship if you win the group of five teams.

Speaker 1 Yeah, by all means.

Speaker 1 And kids get to play playoff football that means something to be like, this is the best group of five team. And it's, you know, it's just kind of weird to me that, like, I understand it.

Speaker 1 We want everyone to be involved, but like, let's actually make it so that the group of five is playing for something that's meaningful instead of playing for a playoff seed to get killed by, you know, an Alabama or an LSU.

Speaker 1 And it's, again, it's not saying they're not good teams and they're not like really good football players, but there is a point where it's like, there's a, there's a, there's a levels here, you know?

Speaker 6 Yes.

Speaker 1 And you have to just admit it, you know? So I don't know.

Speaker 15 But they don't want to do that, though, because again, we live in a society where we want to be, and I'm all for exclusivity. I'm all for making everybody a part of things.

Speaker 15 But at some point, you have to ask yourself, how many times, if you put Tulane in this year, you put SMU,

Speaker 15 Liberty, like Liberty played Oregon this year, year. And everybody knew the moment the game kicked off, Liberty had no shot.

Speaker 15 But because Liberty got a spot at the table based on the rules that were written, Liberty played Oregon

Speaker 15 in a New Year six game. And they had no shot whatsoever.
And to me, I agree with you. Why not put Liberty in a situation and reward them for a good season

Speaker 15 in a bowl game that they actually can win? Because they had no shot of beating Oregon that day.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we kind of treat it like college basketball. We're like, oh, well, upsets happen in college basketball.

Speaker 1 That's a lot different when it's five on five and a guy can get hot or a team can shoot bad in a one-game situation.

Speaker 1 And it's not like, hey, these offensive line is 320 pounds and this defensive line is 260. Like,

Speaker 1 it was so much bigger.

Speaker 7 So, so much bigger than Liberty. Right.

Speaker 1 Right. Uh, all right.
Other thing that I want to talk about, and I don't want to do too long on it because it has been a few days and we've talked about it ad nauseum.

Speaker 1 We defend Dan Campbell, you don't.

Speaker 15 Yeah, I don't. And here's why.
Um, Dan Campbell has made his name based on his style of coaching and the culture that he has built. We're going to go for it more than anybody else.

Speaker 15 We're going to bite knees, elbows. We're going to be tougher.
We're going to be more physical. And that's great.
I understand that.

Speaker 15 But at some point, you have to take into account time, situation, and the game you're in. You just can't have a blanket formula saying we're always going to go for it.

Speaker 15 Now, the one at the end of the half, okay, cool. You want to kick the field goal? I love that.
Kick the field goal, you go up 17 points.

Speaker 15 At some point, though, when the score is 24 to 10 and it's you're halfway through the third quarter so let's just start doing the math i know you're probably not good at math so i oh i got maths for you i got math for you yeah okay perfect perfect so it's 24 10 it's about seven minutes left if you kick that field goal and you go up 27 to 10 how many more possessions do you think the 49ers are going to get four maybe four so they got to score on three of their four possessions two of them being touchdowns to tie you okay so doing the simple math if you kick kick that field goal, then you give yourself a high probability of winning the game.

Speaker 15 Now, that's number one. I thought that was a clear mistake.
When it's 27, 24

Speaker 15 and you're down three, there's such a thing that's called momentum. And it's a mindset.
Think about it. Prime example, PFT.
Watch this. This is just for you.
If you and I are on a Peloton ride,

Speaker 1 and there's, no, it's not going to be in.

Speaker 15 So this is actually going to be something that I, he and I can't relate. It's actually, it's going to be relatability, something that you and I can't relate to a lot.

Speaker 15 If you and I are on a Peloton ride and the score is tied and there's three minutes left on the ride, you're going to feel really good about, okay, I got a chance.

Speaker 15 If you and I are on a ride and you're down 50 on a Peloton ride and there's three minutes left, you're going to be like, damn, I got a tough heel to climb.

Speaker 15 It's the mindset of being tied as opposed to the mindset of being down. And I thought at 27, 24, you kicked the field goal, you become tired.

Speaker 15 Now you stopped all the momentum in the second half for the 49ers, and your team's mindset is in a different spot.

Speaker 15 And so, yeah, I disagree with Dan Campbell on two of the three situations where he went for it on fourth down.

Speaker 7 If we were tied, I would assume that you fell off your bike. That's really the only way that would ever happen.
But you said something there I want to drill down on. You said

Speaker 7 you make a field goal and now you're up three scores. We're not talking about make a field goal.
We're talking about kick a field goal.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And the Lions kicker isn't great.

Speaker 7 I have have some stats for you.

Speaker 1 You want the stats? You want the math?

Speaker 15 Yes, let's do the math.

Speaker 1 Okay, so I went through it. Michael Badgley career, 45 to 49 yards.
So this isn't including over 50, because that obviously skews it. It was going to be a 45-yarder or 46-yarder.

Speaker 1 45 to 49 yards in his career is 65%.

Speaker 1 The Detroit Lions on fourth and three or less this season is 85%.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 that part is like they didn't trust their kicker. You can blame them for having a kicker they don't trust, but they didn't trust their kicker.
That's the big issue.

Speaker 15 Well, okay, then that leads to a bigger problem. Why is he a kicker there?

Speaker 1 I agree with you there. I completely agree with you there.
You go in the playoffs with a kicker that you don't trust,

Speaker 1 you're going to be playing with a hand behind your back. But like, given the circumstances and how they feel about their kicker and how they feel about their offense, I also, like, just to

Speaker 1 bring it down to just like a very simple level, do you not believe like Dan Campbell doesn't trust his defense, doesn't trust his kicker, trusts trusts his offense. Don't you want

Speaker 1 the part of your team, the third of your team that you have the most trust on make making the plays in the big moments? Like, that's what he wants.

Speaker 15 If we put it in a vacuum and just say that, yes, I agree with you. But we all know that football is three phases: offense, defense, and special teams.
And again,

Speaker 15 it leads to a bigger conversation. If you don't trust your defense, a defense, oh, by the way, that dominated the first half, okay, against San Francisco.
But that's a

Speaker 15 a defense, oh, by the way, that has gotten better the second half of the season. Aaron Glenn is up for several head coaching jobs.
He hadn't gotten one yet. We'll see what happens in Washington.

Speaker 15 The kicker, I'll give you the kicker again,

Speaker 15 but if he 65% to me, I just think there's a big enough difference in three score. Okay.
All right, since we want to do math, let's say he goes for it. And let's say he makes it.

Speaker 15 What's the probability that if he makes it, they're going to score a touchdown? So you may wind up kicking a field goal again.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but a shorter one that he can hit. By the way, we have breaking news.
We're going to break this live.

Speaker 1 Dan Quinn has been named the next head coach for the Washington Commanders.

Speaker 7 Let's go. That just happened.
Left hand up.

Speaker 1 Half backwards.

Speaker 7 Just happened. This happened right now.
Booger, I'm going to say right now, I love this hire. It's a great hire.

Speaker 1 Dan Quinn,

Speaker 1 great coach.

Speaker 7 It's a great, because it's a great hire. His players love him.

Speaker 1 This is instant reaction from everyone in the room.

Speaker 7 Instant reaction. All right, here's the thing about Dan Quinn.
People forget he got to a Super Bowl and he put together a team. He had his quarterback, his quarterback was an MVP.

Speaker 7 They dominated the NFC South. He got to a Super Bowl.

Speaker 6 People lost it.

Speaker 1 He was up 25 in a Super Bowl.

Speaker 7 He was up 25 in a Super Bowl.

Speaker 7 If you put together a team where your quarterback is the MVP, you dominate the NFC South, you get to a Super Bowl, I think that's going to make you a pretty good head coach.

Speaker 1 You'd sign up for being up 25 in the Super Bowl Board.

Speaker 7 I can't think of any recent examples of head coaches for the Washington Commanders that have that same resume.

Speaker 7 But

Speaker 7 I have no choice but to support Dan Quinn. And

Speaker 7 you hear his players talk about him. His players love him.
And it's also an added bonus of making the Cowboys worse. So we're making them worse.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 15 Just to tie the two together, if I gave you a choice right now going forward, Dan Campbell or Dan Quinn.

Speaker 1 Dan Quinn.

Speaker 7 Dan Quinn. Easy.

Speaker 13 Easy choice.

Speaker 13 No, it's an easy choice. Booger.

Speaker 1 He's got to go all in, Booger. He just found out.
He turned his hat backwards. He's got to go all in.
Let him go all in.

Speaker 1 This is actually adult friendship right here. This is male friendship.
Booger.

Speaker 1 I know my guy right now is hurting, but you got to just support him and be like, you know what? Okay,

Speaker 1 we're going backwards too. We're quitting.
Yeah, we're quitting right now.

Speaker 7 It's quitting time. And Booger, you just said a second.

Speaker 13 Yeah, do the hat. Yeah, get the hat.

Speaker 1 Get the hat backwards. It's the new way all the kids are.

Speaker 1 We're quitting. There we go.
Quinn.

Speaker 1 We got to support our boys, even if they're making a mistake.

Speaker 13 We're not making a mistake, though.

Speaker 7 But if I were, I would appreciate the support.

Speaker 7 You just said yourself, Dan Campbell goes for it on fourth downs. He's a bird brain.
Yeah, I don't want that. I want Dan Quinn.
Dan Quinn is, he got to a Super Bowl.

Speaker 15 Okay, so I'm going to support you. So let's spin this glass half-four.
Yep.

Speaker 15 Number one,

Speaker 15 I'm surprised that they went with another defensive coach. You fire Ron Rivera, who's a defensive guy.
You go to Dan Quinn, who's also a defensive guy.

Speaker 15 Tells me that they're going to put a premium on how physical they want to be and how they want to play defense in Washington. That's number one.
Dan Quinn is a big energy guy.

Speaker 15 Like he's a big positivity guy. When I call Monday Night Football, I had some meetings, some production meetings with him.
He is so fun to talk to, so full of energy.

Speaker 15 He's going to create a positive atmosphere, which is something that they haven't had in Washington in a long time based on the old ownership and based on some of the things that were coming in that building.

Speaker 15 That's number two. The third thing is they got a lot of capital from a draft standpoint.
They're going to have a high pick.

Speaker 15 You got to figure out what you're going to do at the quarterback position. Are you going to be a big believer in Sam Howell?

Speaker 15 Are you going to move on from Sam Howell and draft one of these guys that are going to be in the 2024 draft? So, so many questions. I do like the hire because.

Speaker 15 The last thing I'll say about it is this, is that too many times we hire the guy who can babysit the quarterback. Oh, I love, you have to hire an offensive offensive guy to help CJ Shroud.

Speaker 1 No, you don't.

Speaker 15 Okay. D'Amico Ryan, C.J.
Shroud, it's great.

Speaker 15 You get a good offensive coordinator, and the Houston Texans are in great shape right now. So I love that you go out and you hire the best leader of men.

Speaker 15 I need somebody that can stand in front of the room and say, hey, guys, we suck. Here's how we're going to get better.
And I think Dan Quinn can do that.

Speaker 15 And to your point about being down 20, being what was down?

Speaker 1 25. He was up 25.
He was up 25.

Speaker 15 He was up 25, which is probably not something to brag about. And he lost.
I think his ability to understand

Speaker 15 a second time around, I wasn't successful, okay, the first time. Now, a second time around, I get another opportunity.
Notice we got a couple of retreads.

Speaker 15 Him and Raheem Morris are retreads in the NFL. Also, Jim Harbaugh, even though Harbaugh, I don't think Harbaugh get fired or did he just leave San Francisco the first time? I can't remember.

Speaker 15 Either way, those three guys are getting a second go-around in the National Football League.

Speaker 7 Yeah, three guys that got to a Super Bowl, right? Well, I guess Raheem Morris was on that Falcons staff at the time.

Speaker 1 Correct, yes, yeah.

Speaker 13 And this is all now.

Speaker 7 I'm thinking about it. This is also good for me because that stupid graphic that you guys always show with all the former Washington head coaches and how great they're doing right now.

Speaker 7 Those guys were also, they were all on the Falcons team. And Dan Quinn was their coach on that Falcons team.

Speaker 7 So now it's more like we need to talk about all the former Falcons head coaches that are now elsewhere in the league.

Speaker 15 Yeah, but that's not sexy, though. Nobody wants to talk about it.

Speaker 1 It's not sexy.

Speaker 7 What about the fact of hiring a defensive guy to run the show? And you can say this about Seattle, too, with McDonald. You hire a defensive guy to run the show.

Speaker 7 You have to nail the offensive coordinator, especially if you have a young quarterback, right?

Speaker 1 Well, you do, yeah.

Speaker 7 And then you saw this year, it didn't really happen, but you had

Speaker 7 Ben Johnson in Detroit. You had Bobby Sloick in Houston, two up-and-coming offensive coordinators that got interest to be hired somewhere else as a head coach.

Speaker 7 In those cases, they decided to go back and stick around. But I think more often than not, if you have a good young coordinator, they're going to get poached somewhere else to be a head coach.

Speaker 7 So then you have to just keep trying to find new offensive guys.

Speaker 7 Like, is there any advantage to having a defensive head coach running the entire show as opposed to an offensive guy like Andy Reid that you know is going to stick around for a while?

Speaker 15 Well, I think defensive guys usually structure practice and structure

Speaker 15 things a little bit differently. Usually, most offensive coaches, they can never have enough practice time because they want to run every offensive play they can.

Speaker 15 Having played for John Gruden and then playing for Tony Dungy, I can tell you the difference is really this:

Speaker 15 John wanted to practice until they got every offensive play right. Tony Dungy just wanted to practice to be up tempo and to be physical.

Speaker 15 It doesn't, it didn't matter who won practice, whether the offense wanted the defense one. Offensive guys hate when they get their ass kicked every day.
And so, like, that's the difference.

Speaker 15 Let me ask you this about Ben Johnson.

Speaker 15 Were you guys surprised since we're talking about offensive coordinators and who Dan Quinn is going to hire? Were you surprised that Ben Johnson, A,

Speaker 15 went back to Detroit, and B, rumors are he had a salary demand somewhere in the $10 to $15 million range and that scare teams off. Were you surprised that those two things either leaked or happened?

Speaker 7 I'm surprised that

Speaker 7 he went back, yes, because it felt like it was a foregone conclusion this entire season that he was going to leave. You saw the Detroit offense this year, and they were incredible.

Speaker 7 They were almost impossible to stop. The only thing that could stop them was Josh Reynolds dropping a couple easy catches on like short fourth downs.

Speaker 7 So I was shocked that he went back, but I do think Dan Campbell kind of gave him a pep talk. And you know how Dan can get.

Speaker 7 He basically opened up his heart and was like, we built this thing in Detroit, see it through to the finish. And I think Ben Johnson had that in the back of his head.
He was like, you know what?

Speaker 7 I'm going to do that. And then also I'm going to stick around so that next year I can coach the Bears.

Speaker 15 You know, somebody asked me,

Speaker 15 do you think he's quote unquote scared to run his own program?

Speaker 15 And I'll never say a man is scared because but this is two years in a row two years in a row that he's basically said i don't want a job and he said i got unfinished business like how many times can he do that in your opinion well being i think next year i think if he does it again next year it's gonna be weird people are gonna be like well now something's weird and yeah exactly yes yeah i agree i agree and i think that being a head coach sometimes isn't it's not for everybody So you can be a great defensive,

Speaker 1 not a great head coach.

Speaker 7 Got to Super Bowl, though.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 7 And this is his second time, and he's learned from his mistakes.

Speaker 1 I'm really looking forward to that.

Speaker 1 But sometimes he just

Speaker 1 talked to me. We're talking about offensive coaches.
There are guys that are better coordinators than coaches.

Speaker 7 Offensive side of the ball.

Speaker 7 Who's your head coach, Big Cat? Was he a good coordinator?

Speaker 1 Listen, my head coach is we're going to trust Ryan Poles, and we're going to see how Caleb Williams does. Do you think Caleb Williams is a slam dunk number one pick?

Speaker 6 Like, I know we're now in that smokescreen period where everyone will break down these guys and find everything that's wrong about them.

Speaker 1 And you'll get everyone being like, well, what about this? What about that?

Speaker 1 Sometimes you just got to watch the games and be like, trust it and be like, yeah, he's got elite skills that, yeah, there's some holes, but you got to take the shot.

Speaker 15 Yes, I think if you're the Bears, because where Caleb Williams is, I think his ceiling is so much higher than Justin Fields. Justin Fields can develop into a really, really good quarterback.

Speaker 15 He can even develop into an MVP type quarterback because of his athletic ability. But Caleb Williams has enough of Mahomesy stuff in him that

Speaker 15 you got to invest in that. Caleb Williams as a passer coming into the National Football League is further along than Justin Fields

Speaker 15 has been the first couple of years in the National Football League already. So

Speaker 15 hopefully they draft Caleb Williams. Somebody offers them.
maybe a two and a four for justin fields you get those picks you can recoup some stuff and you can start to build chicago that way.

Speaker 15 That's what I would do.

Speaker 15 And on top of that, there's so many more advantages. You reset the rookie clock.

Speaker 15 You know, you can start to kind of develop.

Speaker 15 You know, you get him a number one wide receiver to go along with DJ Moore. By the way, DJ is a number one.
I think

Speaker 15 you get another guy at some point now. You got a couple of good

Speaker 15 receivers, very similar to how Joe Burrow has in Cincinnati when you got T.

Speaker 15 Higgins, Boyd, and Chase, even though I think they're going to lose Higgins, but you still need to surround your quarterback with two two or three really good receivers.

Speaker 15 And so, if I'm Chicago, that's the path that I go down. I like it.

Speaker 1 All right, so I want to talk about the Super Bowl real quick. You obviously

Speaker 1 played in a Super Bowl, two Super Bowls, right? Yeah,

Speaker 1 you won two Super Bowls, you played in two Super Bowls before the game, from a mental, just personal aspect.

Speaker 1 What point of the week do you start to get nervous? And what point of the week are you like,

Speaker 1 yes, it's another game, but no, it's not another game. 100-plus million people are watching, and this defines legacies.

Speaker 15 It was a night before.

Speaker 15 And, you know, all week long, the hype, the buildup, like everybody wants to be a part of that. And it's something that

Speaker 15 is totally cool because the entire sports world is focused on you and your team. And like, you're having so much fun, especially when you get to the city.
And all the work is pretty much done.

Speaker 15 And now it's time to take the team photo. It's time for media night.
Like, it's time for so many different things. But the night before the game is different.

Speaker 15 I'll never forget down in being down in Miami

Speaker 15 when we played the Bears.

Speaker 15 I woke up at like 3 a.m.

Speaker 15 Sunday morning. And now the game is not until what, 6, 5.30, 6, whatever the time it kicked off.

Speaker 15 And I tried to go back to sleep. I couldn't.
I tossed and turned. And we were in Fort Lauderdale.
So we didn't stay in Miami. And I literally went out on the balcony and it's 3.30 in the morning.

Speaker 15 And I'm just staring out thinking of the possibilities that could happen, the possibilities or the outcomes that could play out that day. I'm thinking about making plays.

Speaker 15 I'm thinking about doing different, like I'm thinking about

Speaker 15 everything you can think of out on that balcony. And before I know it, it's 6 a.m.
And it's 6 a.m.

Speaker 15 It's a

Speaker 1 long,

Speaker 1 long day. I mean, a long day.

Speaker 15 The nervous energy started to build. as the night went on into the morning.
And as we get to the stadium, and it's like overcast and cloudy, if you remember Super Bowl 41, that it rained all game.

Speaker 15 Prince Dia Purple rained at halftime in the rain. That's awesome.

Speaker 1 Unbelievable.

Speaker 1 That's all I remember.

Speaker 1 No question.

Speaker 1 I'm

Speaker 1 in pregnancy. Exactly.
That's it.

Speaker 15 I'm in pre-game.

Speaker 15 Exactly. And sexy Rexy Grossman.
No question.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 it was raining.

Speaker 1 It was raining, Booker.

Speaker 1 It was raining.

Speaker 1 Big God.

Speaker 15 The rain had nothing to do with Rex Grossman. Okay.

Speaker 15 The most cool moment, though, was sitting in stretch in pregame, and you know, there's probably 45 minutes to go before game time, and you're sitting there, and everybody's walking around taking pictures, and I could just start to take it all in.

Speaker 15 And it was one of those cool, surreal moments because I dreamed of it for a long time, man.

Speaker 15 Like being in that spot, and you know, I got hurt in the game in the Buccaneers year that we ran to the Super Bowl, so I didn't actually get a chance to quote unquote play.

Speaker 15 And so for me to be in that Super Bowl 41 in Miami, strapped up, ready to go on the field is one of those surreal moments, man.

Speaker 15 And the nervous energy doesn't go away until the ball is kicked off and until you get hit in the mouth. And I had some great battles in my career with Olin Crutz when I was in Tampa.

Speaker 15 And wouldn't you know it, here we are in the Super Bowl. It's me and Olin Crutz.
And it was one of those three-hour movies, man, where

Speaker 1 I...

Speaker 15 I didn't want to be anywhere else. Right.

Speaker 15 And it wasn't because I knew we were going to win. It was because I knew something special was happening in that moment.

Speaker 15 He and I, I mean, he and I are good friends, and he and I have battled for years. We're doing this on the biggest stage.

Speaker 15 And after the game, for him to come up and say, hey, man, congrats, much respect. Like that part of the whole deal culminating with the victory.
Like, it's just one of those moments.

Speaker 15 But to go back to your original question, man, you get super, super nervous the day of the game, the night before the game. And I didn't sleep again until like Tuesday morning.

Speaker 15 I mean, it was like the longest 48 hours and the most fun 48 hours of my life.

Speaker 1 Okay, so another question about it.

Speaker 1 Obviously, it's a little different because Peyton Manning at that point of his career, it was like Peyton Manning can't win a Super Bowl, like chokes in the big moment, even though he was, you know, already on the path to a Hall of Fame quarterback.

Speaker 1 Patrick Mahomes has won a couple Super Bowls, but what is the vibe like when you have a guy like Peyton Manning or Patrick Mahomes in terms of the locker room?

Speaker 1 Is it we don't want to let this guy down, or is it we got our ace in the hole? Like we know we're okay because of this quarterback.

Speaker 15 You feel super confident.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 15 I mean, it's kind of like when you walk out on the field and your kids are playing, and you look over on the other sideline, and the kids that they're playing in basketball are like a foot shorter.

Speaker 15 Yep. And they don't have their shoes tied.
You're like, yeah. We got this in the day.
It's going to be a good day for little Johnny. Like, that's how we feel with Peyton Manning.

Speaker 15 That's how you got to feel with Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 15 Now, obviously, it's not to that level because we're playing pro football, but there's a level of confidence that you have when you have one of the all-time greats.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 15 you know that your guy can get it done at any time.

Speaker 1 And like, correct me if I'm wrong, but playing with confidence is a huge factor that we don't really, we don't understand if we're watching on TV.

Speaker 1 But I would imagine like a locker room, a unit, playing with that confidence can make you a significantly better player on the field.

Speaker 15 No doubt about it. Confidence, momentum.
It's kind of like, again, back to Dan Campbell. I got more confidence when I'm tired tired or up than when I'm down.

Speaker 15 Like, so yeah, confidence is, is, is, is, confidence is something, man, that, that you can't fake. Like, you either have it or you don't.

Speaker 15 Like, I can tell you on the first snap of the game whether or not I might have a good game because I can understand that my opponent and what I'm dealing with.

Speaker 15 And so, even though, even though Devin Hester took the opening kickoff back, even though the first time we got on defense, and Rex Grossman broke the huddle and Rex Grossman snapped the football, I go back and I tell Kato June and Gary Brackett, Rex Grossman cannot beat us.

Speaker 15 I just saw a look in his eyes.

Speaker 15 And from that snap going forward, you knew that the Bears are going to try to play around Rex Grossman, run the football, play defense, maybe get

Speaker 15 another special teams play. They weren't going to let Rex Grossman try to beat us.
And at that point, we just tried to beat the hell out of Rex Grossman as many times as we could.

Speaker 15 And once we stopped the run, the game was basically open.

Speaker 7 We talked about playoff speed, Super Bowl speed, how it's like a a little bit different in these big games. In the trenches, though,

Speaker 7 is there Super Bowl strength? Are people pushing harder? Is it more physical?

Speaker 15 No, it's not anymore physical.

Speaker 15 Once you get into the playoffs, to me, there's preseason, there's regular season, there's postseason. And so, like, postseason just goes up a notch.

Speaker 15 And the reason it goes up a notch is because the competition is that much better. So, the speed is like you often hear those clichés about the speed.

Speaker 15 Yeah, the speed is better because the competition is better. And so, Olin Crouch is going to play faster than, you know, I don't know, some dude from Kansas City who can't play anymore.

Speaker 15 Because Olin Crutch should be in the Hall of Fame, like he's a Hall of Fame level type player. So he's going to play at a faster speed for sure.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that's an interesting way to think about it. I feel really dumb all these years being like the game's faster in the playoffs.
Well, yeah, it's the better teams that are playing. Yeah.

Speaker 7 That tend to have much faster players. Yeah, it's a good point.
That's true.

Speaker 1 Although, I will say that the 49ers do feel like the faster team when you're just saying pure speed, team speed against the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 And I don't know if that's maybe the Chiefs just shape-shifting into more of like a deliberate offense,

Speaker 1 but it does feel like just looking on paper, they have a lot of really, really fast guys, especially on the outside. And with McCaffrey, it does feel like they have more speed.

Speaker 15 I was surprised that I saw somewhere 49er, the 49ers are a favorite, like by one and a half or something.

Speaker 1 They are.

Speaker 15 That's surprising based on the way their defense is played, number one, and number two, the two quarterbacks in this game. The fact that Vegas wants you to take Brock Purdy over Patrick Mahomes,

Speaker 15 I'm not sure I can do that.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 15 I don't know about you guys, but

Speaker 1 no, I took the Chiefs. I took the Chiefs because it is...

Speaker 1 I'm trying really hard not to have it swayed because there are parts of it that I start to think about.

Speaker 1 And it's like, listen, if the Niners just want to run the button, if the Niners do what the Ravens didn't do and just be like, hey, Christian McCaffrey, here's Christian McCaffrey 30 times.

Speaker 1 I don't know if the Chiefs have a great answer for that, but at the end of the day, it is like, who do you trust to make the big play in the fourth quarter? And the answer is always Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 15 Let me ask you this, guys. Doesn't it feel like that if the 49ers don't get it done now, we're going to start to kind of say, well, are they ever going to get it done?

Speaker 15 Like, how many times, how many times can this iteration of this defense and put in ex-quarterback and Kyle kyle shanahan and

Speaker 1 uh

Speaker 7 the the the wizardry of him as an offensive guy like they've been knocking on the door for a long time if they don't get it done here are we going to start to kind of question whether or not they can ever get it done i don't know because they they do have a couple years under the brock purdy window because he's not going to yeah he's not going to get paid for a little bit so they can make some more additions or they could go out in the offseason they could get a quarterback and there are a couple quarterbacks that come to mind whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa Let's not have any Brock Purdy slander right now.

Speaker 1 I'm not slandering Brock Purdy.

Speaker 7 I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 You just said they're going to go get another quarterback. No, that's Brock Purdy slander.

Speaker 7 I'm saying if they lose, there is one quarterback out there that Kyle Shanahan is in love with, like wants to marry.

Speaker 15 Kirk Cuts. Yes.

Speaker 1 He's a free agent.

Speaker 15 I think that ship has passed.

Speaker 12 I like Brock Purdy.

Speaker 7 We've been pretty consistent on this show starting like week two or three this year. It's pretty early.
Where you said Brock Purdy's just playing good football.

Speaker 7 You can say he's a good quarterback. It's okay to say that.

Speaker 7 You don't have to say that he's an elite like Patrick Mahomes guy that will carry a team to a Super Bowl on his own, but he's playing the game really well right now.

Speaker 7 And no, I don't think he's a bad quarterback at all.

Speaker 7 I think the 49ers can win this game for sure.

Speaker 1 I do.

Speaker 15 I think the game is going to come down to

Speaker 15 two things. Number one, how does the 49ers defense handle the Chiefs offense from the standpoint of can they dominate the matchups they're supposed to win?

Speaker 15 Because on paper, paper, the 49ers are supposed to dominate the two tackles that the Chiefs have. So

Speaker 15 Bosa and Chase Young are supposed to have a field day. That's number one.
Number two, how do you take away Travis Kelsey?

Speaker 15 I think if the 49ers are going to win, that's going to be the formula from a defensive standpoint. If you tell me the Chiefs win the game, then Travis Kelsey has a day.

Speaker 15 And there's got to be one more guy. Like there's got to be an X Factor.
Somebody's got to help Mahomes and Kelsey. So is that MBS? Is that Rashid Rice? Is that Gray? Is that Watson?

Speaker 15 Like, somebody's got to make a play other than Kelsey, I think, for the Chiefs to win this game. Because

Speaker 15 if you're saying, Fran, you got to go into this game saying, if we lose the Super Bowl, we're going to lose because somebody not named Travis Kelsey beat me.

Speaker 15 So I don't know how they do that, but they got to come up with a plan that way 87 doesn't beat them.

Speaker 1 I think the name might be, you didn't name it, but it might be Pacheco because you

Speaker 1 saw what the Lions were able to do in terms of running the football against the Niners and Pacheco is he's been awesome like he is the best running back that Patrick Mahomes has had which kind of gets lost in the shuffle because Patrick Mahomes' story is he's finally got a defense but Pacheco might be the guy yeah man by the way Pacheco runs like I envision you waking up on a Saturday morning going to get donuts like like that's how hard I envision you leaving the house running toward the local donut stand every Saturday morning the way he runs like he runs angry Yeah, it's not wrong.

Speaker 7 He's fun to watch. The other thing I am looking at is

Speaker 7 the kicking situation. We're talking about not trusting a kicker.

Speaker 7 I think the Chiefs have a much better kicker. Back in October, watching Moody, you could see he missed a couple kicks.
And even his makes, a lot of them are by the narrowest of margins.

Speaker 7 He's a little shaky. And I would not trust him.
A little?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, Moody.

Speaker 15 He's a lot shaky.

Speaker 7 Especially in the playoffs. But this whole season, he's been a very, very shaky kicker, and he's gotten away with a lot of it.

Speaker 7 But I just, I keep waiting for it to bite them in the ass and it for like to actually affect the outcome of a game. In the playoffs, he's gotten away with it, but yeah,

Speaker 7 I'm not totally confident in that part of the game.

Speaker 15 Okay, so if we're going to do it this way, we're going to say kicker advantage Chiefs. Gotcha.
Defense, advantage, Chiefs, right? The Chiefs have a better defense. Yep.

Speaker 15 Receivers, receivers. Who would you 49?

Speaker 7 Is that a serious question? Easy. Wait, is Kadarius Toney playing? Because that might affect it.

Speaker 15 Does it matter?

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 15 offensive line, 49ers. Yep.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Chiefs' offensive lines played very well, though. They have.

Speaker 1 But the two tackles, they got.

Speaker 1 Patrick Mahomes didn't get sacked till the first time he got sacked in the playoffs. It was what, the third quarter of that Ravens game.

Speaker 6 Like, they have, they, they have been underrated very good.

Speaker 15 Yep. Uh, quarterback

Speaker 7 Chiefs. Probably Chiefs.

Speaker 15 And then and then, and then running back, 49ers.

Speaker 7 49ers. Tight end.

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 15 I mean, tight end.

Speaker 15 I'm going to favor Kelsey, but I mean, it's really, that's a pick'em. Yeah.

Speaker 1 To be honest with you. Kittle's a dog.
Kittle's a dog. All right, so.
Give it up for Chicago.

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Speaker 1 All right, so is your official pick? Can we get your official pick?

Speaker 6 Is it Chiefs?

Speaker 15 No,

Speaker 15 as much as I think the Chiefs are phenomenal and Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid and Kelsey almost unbeatable.

Speaker 15 This is kind of a hard pick. Like, I've been knowing John Lynch a long time.
I played with him. We won a Super Bowl.
He's been knocking on the door. He's a Super Bowl champion as a player.

Speaker 15 He's in the Hall of Fame. He gets an opportunity to be a Super Bowl champion as a general manager.
And I just think there's a certain thing to say about it being your time.

Speaker 15 Like, I just think it's the 49ers time. Like, how many times are they going to knock on this door and knock on this door?

Speaker 15 It was, we were one throwaway against the Chiefs last time with Jimmy Garoppolo. If we would have had a healthy Brock Purdy last year, if, if, if, if, if, at some point, it's got to be your time.

Speaker 15 They're healthy. The defense, I think it's good enough.
Brock Purdy has been playing outstanding. I just think it's their time right now.
So I'm picking the 49ers. I like it.

Speaker 7 I like it, Booger. I think I am too.
I've crunched the numbers. I'm going with Mahomes.

Speaker 7 I think me and you together, Booger, we can stop Patrick Mahomes. We're the ones.

Speaker 15 There's absolutely no question about it.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, Booger, thank you as always.
You're the best, man. We love having you on.

Speaker 13 Are you going to Vegas?

Speaker 13 Absolutely.

Speaker 15 I'll get to Vegas midweek next week and got a lot of food spots that I'm already looking forward to hitting.

Speaker 1 The game will be great.

Speaker 15 Looking forward to seeing the halftime show with Usher.

Speaker 15 Yeah, it should be a good week. Are you guys going to be in Vegas?

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll be there, so we got to get together. We got to get together.

Speaker 15 No question. Let's connect offline.
And

Speaker 15 if we don't do anything but have a coffee or just have a big group hug, let's do it. Okay.
Sounds good, Booger.

Speaker 1 Love that. All right.
Thanks so much, Boog.

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Speaker 7 And now, here's Stavi.

Speaker 21 And now for something completely different.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on our very good friend. It's Stavi baby, Stavros Halkius.

Speaker 1 This sucks because we were going to do this interview in Vegas in person.

Speaker 1 It was all planned for that, but we figured we still should have him on for 20 minutes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, dude,

Speaker 1 you fucked up. Your team fucked up.
Your team should be playing in the Super Bowl, and they fucked up.

Speaker 21 Dude, I fucking know, dude. Is this any way to start a man who's grieving? Is this a way to treat me right off the fucking bat? Yeah.

Speaker 1 It sucks, Dick.

Speaker 21 You don't think I fucking know that, big cat?

Speaker 21 You don't think I fucking know it sucks, Dick, and that we fucked up? Yeah. Yeah.
We're fucked.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 21 And that no team is ever that healthy in the fucking playoffs ever. And that we fuck.
Oh my God, dude. Oh my God.
It sucks, dick. I was.

Speaker 1 So you're doing well. You're doing well.
I'm doing bad, dude.

Speaker 21 My entire life has gone. No joke.
This has sent me back personally a month minimum. Like, I just emotionally, physically, I've been on a bender.
Truly, like, I was sober.

Speaker 21 I've been getting fucked up all week.

Speaker 21 I'm good. I think this is the last.
I have to just throw away the weed in my house. All the, you know, the booze has been drank.
I literally have gone back into like

Speaker 21 getting fucked up, getting high in the morning, ordering like, you know, $400 worth of seamless throughout the day just for me and the team.

Speaker 21 You know, just, it's, it's like a crack den in this fucking, I'm in Baltimore. It's just, there's shit everywhere.
I was setting up a new house. I bought a fucking sauna.
I bought a treadmill.

Speaker 21 None of I haven't, I haven't exercised. It's my life has plummeted, bro.
If I didn't, shit's going so bad.

Speaker 21 And thank god i have to go work this weekend thank god like my life my my like depression cave has been so bad that like going back on the road will be healthier for me i have one weekend on the road and i and just being on the road i'm like thank god i can't i can only do so much damage in a city i don't really know I'm just fucked, dude.

Speaker 21 This sucks. I'm so depressed.

Speaker 1 It's like so much dick.

Speaker 7 You think you would have drank more beer and more liquor and ate worse food on Super Bowl week? Or is like your depression week way worse for your body than that?

Speaker 21 That's, see, that's the thing.

Speaker 21 Pifty, I was, I was kidding myself. I was like, because, you know, I've gotten fat as shit this year.
Like, that was, yeah, and I'm like, damn, I need this.

Speaker 21 I need to, like, I need to do like a little health sabbatical.

Speaker 7 Yeah, you were jacked up in 2020.

Speaker 21 And part of my fucking, part of my thinking was like,

Speaker 21 The only small silver lining is at least, because the Super Bowl is going to be so fun. You motherfuckers are going to be there.
So many friends just go to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 21 It's in Vegas. I was going to do a show.
You know, my friends, Segura and Burt are fucking doing a show. I was going to hop on theirs.
It was just going to be awesome.

Speaker 21 There was going to be so much shit. And I was like, well, at least I won't fuck my body up.
And I'll just be at home.

Speaker 21 And

Speaker 21 I promise you, I've done more damage. in four days than I would have done in Vegas.
Just being sad, not having any fun. And it's not even good.

Speaker 21 It's like, I've been eating the way like when a like when somebody gets fat for a roll like i've been leaving ice cream out and drinking it you know what i mean like it's not even good dude i've been you know what a snack i had yesterday because i ate all the desserts i just put butter on fucking i put butter on crackers and slathered like syrup off like i'm just i'm just in like i'm in like fucking fat crackhead mode dude where i'm just like i'm ripping the like i'm i'm i'm a step away from like ripping the copper wire out of my house for fucking chicken wings i'm fucked dude i didn't think think I'd be this sad, and I'm sadder than I've been in like years.

Speaker 21 This did like that was such a fucking brutal loss. It felt bad the whole fucking time.
I'm in the stadium, right? Like, we're there, and it was like

Speaker 21 the first half of Houston felt a little fucked, and then the second half was one of the best moments of my life. Like, just how Lamar came out, and it just

Speaker 21 what was so almost worse about that is we were tan it was tantalizing the whole fucking time. Right.

Speaker 21 It was like, we're not, even at the very even after zay fumbled which no shot zay played fucking great nobody should be mad at him that's a fucking tough play whatever right even after zay fumbles and it's like okay we're fucked after that first initial which by the way that was like you want to talk about the worst 10 seconds of my life it's like that it was like going from we just scored a touchdown on a sick drive finally we're cooking to the fucking Chiefs, these cocksuckers, that's how much, that's how much like the Illuminati is on their side.

Speaker 21 They get the touch back the next week. A weird thing happens to them, and they just get the same fucking thing the next week.
How the fuck is that fair? They don't have to suffer a fucking week.

Speaker 21 They only suffered one week a weird touchback, and they didn't fucking lose. I fucking hate the Chiefs so much, dude.
And that's the other thing. It had to be the Chiefs.

Speaker 21 If it's Buffalo, if it's Buffalo, whatever. Those fucking fans, they deserve, like, it would have hurt, but I wouldn't have wanted to kill myself.

Speaker 21 I wouldn't be thinking, like, oh, fucking a bunch of commercial act. Like,

Speaker 21 this is the most psyop, most fucking fixed shit of all time. Even though we suck.
Look, our offense sucked dick. Let me

Speaker 21 and Timmy, I don't know if you guys can tell, I didn't prepare at all for this.

Speaker 1 I haven't listened.

Speaker 21 I haven't listened to sports media. I haven't, like, done anything.
I've been in my cave being fucking pissed. But, like, our offense sucked, dick.
I understand that.

Speaker 21 Todd Munkin, I don't know what the fuck happened. What the fuck?

Speaker 21 Why the fuck we were just doing all these fucking little screen passes and shit and why the fuck we didn't try running it down their throats.

Speaker 21 And even if we had run the, like, if we, even if we had run the, like caveman Greg Roman fucking four running back offense, we still we probably would have fucking won that game.

Speaker 21 What the fuck happened?

Speaker 21 Fucking our offense got got like scared. I don't know why the fuck we didn't just try and run it down their fucking throats at least a little bit.

Speaker 21 But it's still fixed. It is also still fixed.
Matt Ref can suck my dick.

Speaker 21 Those personal fucking the taunting on Zay. Fucking Travis Kelsey, that fucking cocksucker getting anything he wanted, right? God forbid that God forbid anything ever gets fucking whistled on him.

Speaker 21 And just like, we, it was fucking crazy, dude. It was fucking insane.

Speaker 1 So, you, so, I, I texted you after the game. I do take a little bit of blame because I put on the purple camos, and it feels like that was not a great sign.

Speaker 21 And can I say something? You got the off-brand ones.

Speaker 1 Well, it got sent to me.

Speaker 21 It got sent to me. To get the right ones! You fucked this big cat.

Speaker 1 I did notice. You got the right armor.

Speaker 7 Yeah, the ones big cat were wearing, it was like darker.

Speaker 1 Like, black was the primary color almost.

Speaker 21 That's the thing. It's like sending somebody in Iraq faulty body armor.

Speaker 21 You didn't have the right fucking stuff, and we got fucked because of it.

Speaker 1 Donald Rumsfeld says his cargo so I wasn't ready for it, but you so we were texting throughout the game and we texted after and you said you're going full conspiracy mode on this.

Speaker 1 What yes, yeah, what's the conspiracy here other than Taylor Swift in the Super Bowl?

Speaker 21 I mean, I wish, again, I didn't prepare because I wanted this to be fully just like from the heart.

Speaker 21 But just look, I'm sitting, it just feels like, well, first of all, Warren Sharp, you guys used to have him on all the time.

Speaker 21 You put that thing out about this ref, how he's the only motherfucker that, you know, it's the only time, the only time a home field has a disadvantage in whistles is when they put this guy on the fucking field.

Speaker 21 And it's like, oh, what a fucking coincidence.

Speaker 21 Who gets fucking assigned to this, right?

Speaker 21 And it's good, by the way, that we finally... I will say what's cool about Warren Sharp is that we finally weaponized autism fully to football.

Speaker 21 It feels like it took too long, but like, yeah, of course.

Speaker 21 These are the guys you should be doing. That's the so I respected that, but then it was just like all these fucking calls, dude.

Speaker 21 I haven't gone back. I can't, I can't watch any tape.
I can't do anything, but the taunting comes to mind.

Speaker 21 You know, just a bunch of

Speaker 1 likely that

Speaker 1 you weren't watching the broadcast, but it was a terrible throw. Lamar deserves all the blame for that.
But on the broadcast,

Speaker 1 the announcer,

Speaker 1 the booth ref was like, as you can see, the contact comes in after the ball, and they show the replay, and he literally tackled them before the ball arrived.

Speaker 21 Yeah, dude, it was so fucked.

Speaker 21 And I'm sure there's, I just really legitimately feel that it was the kind of thing where the NFL just did everything that was like, look, we're not going to outright, you can't outright fix anything, wink, wink, but like, if everything, you know, no one's going to be mad if a couple calls go.

Speaker 21 you know, one way or the other. And I just feel like that pass interference was bullshit.
The taunting was bullshit. We had a lot of dog shit fucking calls.

Speaker 21 A lot of roughing the passers that I think were fucking, there's a couple of rough in the passers that I thought were bullshit, whatever.

Speaker 21 And look, it was just the NFL had a lot of fucking money to make from a purely

Speaker 21 from a purely like, you know, market share. Like, we would have cost the NFL so much money.
It would have been awesome. It would have been fucking sick.

Speaker 21 And also, it would have been sick to just like the people on the fucking commercial. You know, State Farm doesn't get banged for their butt because they're cock sucking.

Speaker 21 Their whole crew doesn't get to be in the Super Bowl, right? Like, everybody who put all their fucking money in Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey.

Speaker 21 And, like,

Speaker 21 we would have delayed Travis Kelsey's inevitable Amazon Prime fucking direct to Amazon action movie career that that fucking prick is clearly trying to set up. Doesn't he fucking focus on football?

Speaker 21 Gets a fake relationship. Gets a vaccine.
So the Illuminati give him a fucking billionaire girlfriend so he could be in fucking movies. Has it fucking focused on football all fucking week, all year?

Speaker 21 The team sucks dick.

Speaker 21 The team sucks fucking dick and then the and the nfl just fixes it so that they can go because it's a better storyline they get fucking little girls to buy stanley cup fucking chief gear now now we got fucking travis kelsey on stanley cups in third grade fucking congratulations roger goodell you cut sucker

Speaker 21 fucking pisses me off

Speaker 1 and it's just like that it had to be the chiefs they weren't even good that's the thing that fucking kills me we stopped patching bombs our defense did what we needed to do god damn it dude we did we did what we needed to do we could have scored more than 10 fucking points oh god

Speaker 21 that fumble too it just will haunt me and i don't i mean zay's the man it's just like just put that touchdown in oh it was fucking brutal

Speaker 1 it was fucking brutal dude it's going it's going well do you have a

Speaker 7 stop i i don't want to i don't want to blame you because obviously you you know you've been a ravens fan you've been long suffering before the game uh justin tucker's warming up travis Kelsey and Mahomes start to bully him,

Speaker 7 start to shove him around, get in his head a little bit.

Speaker 7 You were at the stadium.

Speaker 7 Why didn't you stop Travis Kelsey?

Speaker 21 You know what?

Speaker 21 Hand up. That's on me.
I didn't even see. I was on the other side of the field.
If I had seen that those fucking thugs

Speaker 21 had accosted the GOAT, a man in his home stadium. Hey, you wanted to play at home, you fucking Chiefs? Maybe fucking don't podcast.

Speaker 21 Podcasting's for us, you piece of shit that's another problem i have with the kelsey now we now they're coming on my fucking corner

Speaker 21 they get to be fucking hot famous you know the other one has a family they've got fucking super bowls they don't i don't even get podcasting i have to lose to the team that's trying to take the fucking food off my family's table those fucking cocksuckers i came from the podcasting sewers i came from come town and they get to fucking just they get to just have the most famous sports podcast in the world god i fucking hate that i fucking hate that team so much

Speaker 21 if they win i'm gonna be so pissed

Speaker 21 and they probably will they probably fucking will

Speaker 21 um yeah i should have fucking honestly pft i should have fucking if i had known i i honestly maybe should have even just

Speaker 21 i

Speaker 21 strapped a bomb to myself and hugged

Speaker 21 i should have just gone i should have just gone fucking i should have just taken one for the team and just strapped a fucking bomb a vest on and just fucking hugged Travis Kelsey and just fucking whispered into his ear.

Speaker 21 This is for podcasting, you piece of shit. This is for thinking you can do what I do.
And then we fucking both explode. And then at least, and then the Ravens win, hopefully.

Speaker 1 Damn, dude.

Speaker 1 So, are you going to watch the Super Bowl?

Speaker 21 No, fuck that. I'm not watching that fucking dog.
That's the other thing, dude. So, okay,

Speaker 21 I'm in the stadium, right? And I'm obviously, I want to kill myself. It's one of the worst moments I've ever felt in my life seeing those fucking pieces of shit set up.

Speaker 21 They're, you know, set up the fucking stage,

Speaker 21 you know, on MNT Bank felt horrible. I'm just sitting in that, I'm sitting in the suite that, you know, that I was in.
I was outside the whole time, but I'm sitting inside now wanting to kill myself,

Speaker 21 eating just, you know, buffalo chicken egg rolls that have been under a heat lamp for five, six hours at that point. I'm just like starting to numb myself with whatever dog shit I can find.

Speaker 21 And I'm watching the game, and at least the second game is like, all right, the lion, like, if the Lions were in it, it's like, all right, I can root for a team that it's a good story, they haven't, you know, done anything.

Speaker 21 Fuck you, fuck the 49ers, could suck my dick, also, whatever. Um, I just wanted the lions to win.
I'm like, all right, if they win, that's one thing.

Speaker 21 And they're up big time, and then you know, it takes a fucking hour to get out of a stadium in traffic.

Speaker 21 I couldn't pull up the NFL app on my phone, I was too hurt to even watch football on my phone in the car.

Speaker 21 I'm just staring blankly, like thinking that I have to make a Ronnie video, even though I'd rather kill myself in that moment. And as soon as I get home,

Speaker 21 the Niners won. Like, I couldn't even have one nice thing to root for and keep me.
Now I gotta root for it. I gotta root for the, I guess I do have to root for the Niners.

Speaker 21 They're Soders team, whatever. I guess they haven't won shit in a while, but it's just not the same.
The Lions would have been fun.

Speaker 21 Anyway, whatever, dude. I can't watch the fucking Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 No, and here's the thing: it's going to make you guys want to hear something fucked up.

Speaker 21 And by the way, happy birthday, boys. But you want to hear something fucked up? You know when my 35th birthday is?

Speaker 1 Oh, is it Super Super Bowl 7th? February 11th. Oh, no.
Oh, no.

Speaker 6 Stop it.

Speaker 7 Oh, God. Do you understand that?

Speaker 1 You want to watch that? I'm going to watch the Tits win on my fucking birthday. No, I'm not fucking doing that.

Speaker 1 Fuck that, dude.

Speaker 21 Yeah, and here's what's fucked up. I had started.

Speaker 21 I was making deals with God, right? I thought, I was like, okay, Super Bowl's on my 35th birthday.

Speaker 21 This year in my life has been the weirdest year ever where it's like I just by accident kind of got famous. I still don't really understand what happened.

Speaker 21 And I was like, all right, some kind of like gypsy curse on my family gave us one awesome year. And then the second I turned 35, it's over.
And I just thought, just let me get the fucking birthday.

Speaker 21 Let me get the Super Bowl out of this. Take it all away.
Take my fucking, cancel me, take my, take it all, go, you know, foreclose on my home.

Speaker 21 But let me just get to this fucking, let me have one more beautiful moment on my 35th birthday.

Speaker 21 And I started thinking, like, yeah, like something, and I was, don't get me wrong, this, the, I was waiting for bad shit to start happening to me, but I just felt like there was a poetic thing of like, hey, one good year of my life, yeah, and we get the Super Bowl, and then it can go to shit from there.

Speaker 21 But no, God had to remind me, there's nothing special about you, you fat piece of shit. You just got lucky with fucking crowd war clips.
Life is pain.

Speaker 21 No one deserves anything. No one gets to enjoy anything,

Speaker 21 except our fucking, the puppet masters who have appointed the Kansas City Chiefs the fucking Super Bowl champions for the rest of their lives.

Speaker 7 It might have saved your life though.

Speaker 7 Having a birthday in Vegas on Sunday after the Ravens win.

Speaker 7 Like I put Stavi surviving at like,

Speaker 7 I don't know, plus 300.

Speaker 21 It would have been bad, bro, for sure. I would have fucking the like I would have I would have done whatever it takes to get to actually celebrate with the Ravens.

Speaker 21 You know, I was slowly meeting, like, it was so fucked up because I was like, felt like I was meeting guys on the team, people in the organization i felt like it was possible to do that and yes you're right i would have gotten more up than i've been in years i would have spent god knows how much money on drugs dick pills and like high-end vegas prostitutes to celebrate it would have been a really up scene but i wanted it pf yeah it would have been fun

Speaker 1 wanted it okay

Speaker 21 also they took money out do you want to like I was going to start charge, I was going to charge people 100 grand for Ronnie appearances at the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 You kidding me? I was about to get rich, dude.

Speaker 21 I was about to fucking cash in.

Speaker 7 Can I give you some good news? Because

Speaker 7 we had Joe Flacco on the show a couple weeks ago. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 We brought you up, and he's a big fan.

Speaker 7 He's been watching your shit. He wants to meet you.
He wants to hang out.

Speaker 21 Hell yeah. That's awesome.
That does feel good. And I can't wait to hang out with Joe.
I'm just still fucking mourning this team. It's like, it'll help.
It'll help for sure.

Speaker 21 Hanging out with Joe, for sure. But it's like,

Speaker 21 even in the like,

Speaker 21 in the grand scheme of this fucking team, it's like, Joe's a great example where it's like, what I love about the Ravens, what's been awesome about being a Ravens fan, is like,

Speaker 21 we're that team where it's like, whenever you're talking about the best teams, right, we don't immediately come to mind. And then you're like, well, don't forget about Baltimore.

Speaker 21 And then you're like, they win about every fucking generation. You know, we've spoiled a bunch of big, like, we fucked the Patriots up a couple times.
Like, we were spoiler for them.

Speaker 21 And what this just felt perfect, dude. This felt like, here comes our Super Bowl for this generation, right? Then we can, then anything, the rest of Lamar's career is cake.

Speaker 21 All the expectations are gone. We get to play spoiler to the fucking Chiefs again.
We get to play spoiler to the dynasty of this generation.

Speaker 21 I wanted Lamar to have a win over fucking Patrick Mahomes so fucking bad. And then it's like, everyone's healthy.
I don't even want to talk.

Speaker 21 I'm going to, you know, I got the Mike McDonald notification. I almost started crying again when I fucking saw that he's on the play for the coaching the Seahawks.

Speaker 21 Like, we're going to get, we're going to po they're going to poach our fucking coaching staff. I don't even, I haven't looked at the cap.

Speaker 21 That's probably going to be, I assume it's bad, but I don't know. I'm just, this felt right.
This felt like just how that Flacco run was just felt beautiful and it was, it was a culmination.

Speaker 21 It was, you know, Ray Lewis's last year. Ed Reed gets one.
Flacco plays out of his fucking mind and we get one and then fucking pay Joe $100 billion after that one. I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 21 That's what this was going to feel like. Hey, if we lose our awesome coaches, they're gone.
If we lose some players because they have to go get paid, I get it.

Speaker 21 But now, all of that happens for nothing. All of that fucking happens.
And next year,

Speaker 21 you're the number one.

Speaker 21 You're a top seed. Your schedule is going to be fucking harder.
That cocksucker, Joe Burrow, is going to be fucking back. At least the Browns have sex crimp.

Speaker 21 At least the Browns can't sign Joe Flacco again to surprisingly lead them.

Speaker 21 At least the Browns have to fucking have

Speaker 21 Deshaun's bitch ass over there. But still, you know, and the Steelers still suck.
That's going to feel good.

Speaker 21 If they get a quarterback in this draft, I might, you know, if things start going good for the Steelers and Browns too, though, I don't don't know, man. This just felt right.

Speaker 21 This felt like the fucking year.

Speaker 1 Fuck, dude. All right.
Well,

Speaker 1 Scott, this is, this has been great. Does it at least feel like this has been therapeutic? Do you at least feel like you've gotten a little out of?

Speaker 1 Because I'm happy you didn't consume any media and you haven't done anything because I feel like we got basically like post-game thoughts from you four days later.

Speaker 21 I've just been in like a cooler.

Speaker 21 I've been preserving these thoughts with getting, with so much, so many edibles and so many fucking, you know, bud lights that I'm just like, that it's just like, and Chinese food. I'm packed.

Speaker 21 This is basically right after the game. It does feel a little therapeutic.
I have to start my life over. I have to get back.
I have no more weed, I think. I have to cook my own meals

Speaker 21 for the time being.

Speaker 21 I have to kick my, I was, dude, I was two weeks clean on night ice cream and I relapsed big time, bro. I have to kick that tonight.
No more night ice cream.

Speaker 21 It does actually feel, this felt like, all right,

Speaker 21 I got it out and I can fucking, you know,

Speaker 21 live my life. But God, I wanted to be there.
I wanted to be in Vegas so bad.

Speaker 1 That's going to be fucking awesome.

Speaker 21 We would have had such a good time.

Speaker 1 We would have had fun together. Anyway.
All right. Anyway.
Well, stop. All right, boys.
Thank you so much. This was hilarious.
I feel like the therapy, you know, let's start.

Speaker 1 Let's put one good day on the schedule. That's right.

Speaker 1 One day at a time. One day.
One day at a time.

Speaker 1 Listen, you're not going to kick night ice cream just like that. It's just one day in front of another, in front of another, and you're going to get back.
Yeah.

Speaker 21 You're right, brother. All right.
Thanks, boys.

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Speaker 1 Okay, Fire Fest of the week time. Before we do that, though, the baseball video is finally out on all platforms.
Go watch it.

Speaker 1 Go watch it. It is PFT pitching against the UIC Flames.

Speaker 1 I caught Jake, Hank, and Max in the outfield. We were able to afford 90 seconds of Joe Buck.
The rest of the broadcast is done by our great friend Nick Tarani, who is a great broadcaster.

Speaker 1 So go check it out.

Speaker 6 Very fun video.

Speaker 7 I watched it earlier today, and Nick is very funny, but Jerry is awesome.

Speaker 1 Jerry is very awesome.

Speaker 7 Jerry has the umpire. He was born.
It's a part he was born to play. His strike calls are legendary.

Speaker 1 Jerry was great as the umpire, yes.

Speaker 7 He was, yeah. yeah.
And there are allegations that I may or may not have used Spider-Tac. I can't comment on that right now.

Speaker 7 Jerry, I think, called a fair game for the most part, and he didn't catch me using spider-attack. So even if I did use it, I got away with it.

Speaker 1 I was told that there might have been some cuts, specifically me breathing heavy into the mic.

Speaker 1 False. Oh, you left him in?

Speaker 10 Did not leave them in. There were cuts of PFT breathing in.

Speaker 1 Oh, let's go.

Speaker 6 So it wasn't me.

Speaker 7 So I was getting gassed up there.

Speaker 1 I was told that it was me.

Speaker 7 Like two days after I did the pitching thing, my arm was sore. My legs were sore.
I was thrown off the mound. I haven't thrown a baseball in years.
Everything was sore.

Speaker 7 I got through it with just grit, determination, a little bit of nicotine, and a little bit of cheating, and some good play from my guys out in the field. Love it.

Speaker 7 It's a good video, I think. Yeah, it's fun.

Speaker 10 Everyone's mic'd up, too, so it's like a little bit of

Speaker 10 Nick commentary and then a lot of like

Speaker 1 breathing.

Speaker 2 There's a little bit of breathing heavy.

Speaker 10 That was gas, Jerry, Big Cat.

Speaker 1 I haven't seen it, but if my mic's in there, I'm pretty sure my only line was just don't hit it to me, don't hit it to me.

Speaker 10 Oh, yeah, that was commented on. Yeah, that was the only thing Hank said.

Speaker 1 Don't hit it to me. By the way, Jim Harbaugh did his introductory press conference.
I just want to play one clip.

Speaker 1 I don't have no idea what he said in it, but the caption is: don't let the powder blues fool you. So, this probably is going to be a good Jim Harbaugh quote.

Speaker 1 That's where we are right now, humble and hungry, and we're going to respect all our opponents, and we're going to strive that uh you know we're gonna earn their respect and uh we're gonna earn our winning um you know tough team you know the resilient team a relentless team uh physical team this is what i want we're gonna aspire to be don't let the powder blues fool you

Speaker 1 i like that that's what we're gonna aspire to do fuck

Speaker 7 that's so bad when he says physical he wants to just beat someone up he takes a deep breath and says yeah physical it's like a Dan Quinn line almost.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Fuck.
All right. Hank, Firefest?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 We were here late on Sunday doing the show. I have been having trouble sleeping.
I got a show coming up Tuesday. Not sure if I've mentioned that.

Speaker 1 But we were here late, and I've had a tough time falling asleep. So I slept for like two hours.
We had a...

Speaker 1 Three-hour commercial shoot here Monday morning, first thing, 8 a.m. So I was coming off like two or three hours of of sleep.
Got here,

Speaker 1 asked the director, you know, what exactly the shoot is, and they gave me

Speaker 1 all of us. They're like, all right, take your shirt off.
Here's a two-inch spandex shorts that you have to wear.

Speaker 7 I think calling it spandex, by the way, is a little bit generous. It was pretty much like a panty hose.

Speaker 1 I could see the head of my cop.

Speaker 7 The veins were visible. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And we just had to stand around basically naked in the cold. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was very cold. I was two hours in the morning.

Speaker 7 I wasn't cold at all. I was very cold.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I'm just that small.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, that was. I didn't look.
That sucked.

Speaker 13 Did you guys not look?

Speaker 7 There were a couple shots.

Speaker 1 They told me to look. Yeah, they had to look.

Speaker 7 There were a couple shots where they told us we had to look at each other's penises. And

Speaker 7 we discussed it. We're like, hey, we're not going to look because we're all, we weren't really hanging low and lazy at the time.
As we mentioned, it was cold in the room.

Speaker 1 It was early.

Speaker 7 And

Speaker 7 I made a concerted effort not to look, but it sounds like Big Cat might have taken a peek.

Speaker 1 I saw

Speaker 1 a little. What did you see?

Speaker 1 Not much. Okay.
Well, I was going to do a compliment. PFD's got some good-sized balls.
I do. Yeah.

Speaker 7 I saw them. They call them Big Meaty Clappers.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 What the fuck, Hank? They told me. They're like.
Why did you look? We all were looking right in front of the fire. They literally directed.
They're like, all right, now look at that.

Speaker 1 That's such a lie. It's a lie.
You got to look in front. No.
You got to look.

Speaker 7 Give us your honest assessment. I wasn't there.

Speaker 7 Tell the listeners what you thought of me and Big Cat's penises.

Speaker 1 I mean, again, not much, but I was like, damn, Big Cat's probably bigger than me. Fuck.
Oh,

Speaker 1 that is a fuck.

Speaker 1 I ain't got anything. But it was cold.
It was cold. It was cold.
You're right. It was cold.
Very cold. It was cold.
We got people just peeking in while we're talking about our dick sizes.

Speaker 13 That's okay.

Speaker 1 Oh, they heard.

Speaker 6 Those are some clients.

Speaker 1 It's all right. It's very small.

Speaker 7 It was four.

Speaker 1 And Dave.

Speaker 1 Listen,

Speaker 1 you no one gets scared of my dick. It's not intimidating enough to be like, whoa, put that thing away.

Speaker 1 I think I'd just get laughed

Speaker 1 if I was like a flasher.

Speaker 6 They'd just be like, oh, that's cute.

Speaker 1 White Sox Dave just popped his head into

Speaker 1 Picat and I were in a meeting with some other people yesterday.

Speaker 1 Like six people in the room, clearly meeting. Dave ran up to the window, looked at me, and mouthed was like, what he mouthed, he said, are you in a meeting?

Speaker 1 And I looked around and was like, yes. And then he walked away for two seconds, came back, and was like,

Speaker 1 basically called me out of the meeting. And then I walked out.
He's like, sorry, sorry. I didn't want to interrupt.
I didn't want to interrupt. You have to come out.

Speaker 1 We were doing handballs. Like, I have to leave at 3.45, just letting you know.
That was it. That's it? I mean, White Sox Dave is such a check.

Speaker 1 I could have just texted me that.

Speaker 1 On Tuesday when we had Paws here and we gave the big check for Stella Blue Coffee. We were playing with the puppies, giving the big check.

Speaker 1 They asked me how Stella's doing, and White Sox Dave was just like, oh, did you get Stella from Paws? I was like, yeah, dude, that's what this whole thing is. He's just, he's the best.

Speaker 6 He's the best.

Speaker 1 I love White Sox Dave. All right, PFT?

Speaker 7 Yeah, it has been a very long week.

Speaker 7 I can't even remember all the stuff that we did, but part of my week has been having the pleasure of babysitting Billy Football, who came to the Chicago office, which has been everything that I remember it being, and maybe a little bit more.

Speaker 7 He was late on Tuesday morning showing up. Now, to his credit, he stayed, I guess that was Wednesday morning.

Speaker 1 Oh, he was, yeah.

Speaker 6 So he was late on Tuesday, too?

Speaker 7 Well, he was on time on Tuesday. Oh.
But then at night, we did Jerry After Dark. And Billy, to his credit, Big Cat called and was like, we need help finding all these fucking needles in this haystack.

Speaker 7 Billy answered the phone and said, I'm there, and just showed up and helped. I guess

Speaker 7 he found a needle. He found a needle.
And then,

Speaker 7 so we were all up a little bit late on Tuesday night, right? Get to the office on Wednesday morning, have an early thing at like 10 a.m. We're supposed to be there for.

Speaker 7 And I got a text from Billy being like, hey, I'm going to be there before 10.30 at some point.

Speaker 7 That's a a good way to phrase it.

Speaker 7 I was like, okay, by the way, at the time that he sent me that text, 10.23. Oh, okay.
And he says, I'm going to be there before 10.30.

Speaker 1 That's great. It's great.

Speaker 7 And then he got there at 10.30. So that was a fucking lie.
So he showed up and he was like, sorry, dude, sorry I'm late.

Speaker 7 I was up until like 4.30 a.m. getting into a rivalry with somebody about cheetahs.

Speaker 10 No, no, no, no, no. He goes, sorry, I was up.
I was cleaning up the hay. And then like 20 minutes later, he was like,

Speaker 10 actually, I was getting into a fight fight with somebody about cheetahs.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 10 Yeah, because first it was, I was doing work, and then it slowly came out.

Speaker 1 I was getting into a fight with somebody about cheetahs.

Speaker 7 So, I just got a lot of Billy football this week. Yeah.
And another Firefest is that Hank Lockwood doing stand-up last night, he's really fucking funny. Like, Hank is by the pay-per-view.

Speaker 1 Hank is

Speaker 7 Hank is so fucking good at stand-up comedy. It's not fair.
Like, I was sitting next to comedians, and they were like, this isn't his first time, right? And I was like, he's never done this before.

Speaker 7 And he was getting applause. He was getting laughs, tears.
He was actually really good. Like, I was proud of Hank the awesome.
You were good, Hank. This is gaslighting.

Speaker 7 I've been telling the entire office how good you were.

Speaker 1 All I know is I caught Max and PFT having a conversation about me, and I turned the corner.

Speaker 1 And then the second that PFT saw me, he goes, we'll talk about it later, we'll talk about it later, talk about it later. So that didn't make me feel good.

Speaker 7 I'm telling everyone that you were really good. This is later.
Because you were. I didn't want to say that to your face, but you were very, very good.
And people should have noticed that.

Speaker 1 Do not buy a pay-per-view.

Speaker 7 No, they should have very high expectations. Take PFT's word for it.

Speaker 14 Do not go to barstelle.tv/slash PPV. Thank you, Jim.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 14 And buy it.

Speaker 7 Not worth it. Not worth it.

Speaker 12 Definitely not.

Speaker 1 Okay, my Fire Fest is we did have a very long week. We had the shoot where everyone looked, where Hank looked at both of our cocks.

Speaker 1 We what?

Speaker 1 Continue. No, go ahead.
I know, it's part of it.

Speaker 1 I think you're going to get to it. We looked for needles in a haystack for six hours.

Speaker 7 We got hay hay fever. We got hay fever.

Speaker 1 I still

Speaker 1 have not fully recovered because I went to sleep at like, I don't know, 3 a.m. and got up at 6.30.
That sucked.

Speaker 1 We played handball. My question was going to be after playing handball, I played with pros.
Do you still believe your take about Olympics? I believe it even more. Same.
Yeah. I believe it even more.

Speaker 1 Josh Allen could be the best handball player in the world right now. I was thinking about it because the argument with soccer is like if our best athletes played soccer,

Speaker 1 you don't even have just quarterbacks. Yes.
You could even have bad, unmobile quarterbacks. Imagine trying to stop Lamar, yeah, like it can't CJ Stroud.
Like you could just

Speaker 1 playoffs, you could just take quarterbacks and they would win a gold medal, yes, yeah, yeah. I think like two weeks of training, it's a very fun sport.
The guys who came out were so, so nice.

Speaker 1 JD, especially, he was a great ambassador of the game, explained the whole game to us. Like, so much fun.

Speaker 1 They were from Columbus, right? Oh,

Speaker 1 they were from all over. Yeah, they took work off.
They took they were the coolest dudes. So much much fun.
Like, they showed us the game.

Speaker 6 I love the game.

Speaker 1 I want to play the game again.

Speaker 1 But, and to their credit, I brought it up to them, and they said that it was more the Euros get upset about that.

Speaker 1 Because I was like, you guys don't think like Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen would be awesome at this.

Speaker 6 They're like, yeah, of course they would.

Speaker 1 So they totally, they were normal guys who totally understood. And it's the Euros.
So we got to get Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes to beat the Euros.

Speaker 7 I think it can happen.

Speaker 1 For America. Yes.

Speaker 1 But my Fire Fest goes into that little gap there where we were up till 2 in the morning, which Needles in a Haystack was one of the most difficult things we've done, but I also, like, I found myself missing it because it was just guys bonding in the most ridiculous setting.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I do miss the hay. Yeah, a little bit.

Speaker 1 But anyway, PFT's birthday on Wednesday, I woke up and I tried to send him a happy birthday tweet, and I completely phrased it wrong, and I feel really bad about it. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Happy birthday to my partner in crime, PFT.

Speaker 7 He makes work fun every day and makes me look good just sitting next to him uh wouldn't want to do a show with anyone else also it's stuart finer's birthday from slips and picks uh i got i got a few tags in that yeah um and and i didn't read it the wrong way and then everybody started referring to it and i was like oh yeah i think this cat just called me ugly i was trying to say that like being with pft makes me better like a funnier person i know what you meant and then i it came across as like i like sitting next to him because i look better no you just listen I've gotten stuff like that before you basically I phrase it wrong you basically said like oh no I love you you know you got that it's good boyfriend dick yeah right exactly so my bad on that but I you you understood what I was saying I understood but then yeah I got I started people started replying and they're like oh that's fucked up to say I was like wait what I do yeah no it was very nice and I speak for big cat too and I say thank you to everybody that reached out selling your celebrating your birthday as a 39 year old male is a little bit weird which is why we don't really talk about it that much on the show never talk about it but you ever do like streams or anything?

Speaker 1 It did.

Speaker 13 Needles in a haystack?

Speaker 7 It did mean a lot to me, and I know it meant a lot to Big Cash, all the people that reached out and said, happy birthday. So we do love you guys.
Yes. Yes.

Speaker 1 Yes. In 40, we got to do something big.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 Edward, 40 Hands?

Speaker 1 Yeah. And then try to find some needles.
Core is like 40.

Speaker 13 I would do the Needles in the Haystack again.

Speaker 7 40 Needles?

Speaker 1 I was,

Speaker 1 it was fun.

Speaker 7 The only bad part about it was the hay fever that we got because I woke up the next day and I felt worse when I woke up, probably because of lack of sleep and also just inhaling all that dust.

Speaker 7 You blow your nose and it's black. Shout out to farmers, by the way.
I know we have a lot of farmers that listen to this podcast. Shout out to you guys.

Speaker 1 They were mad. We put a, there's a, oh, so mad.
There's a full recap video, uh, Viva TV,

Speaker 1 and everyone was calling them,

Speaker 1 what were they calling bales of hay? Yeah, barrels of hay.

Speaker 1 Shout out, Hayes. You said he was a huge business calling them barrels of hay.

Speaker 1 And there was a lot of farmers mad, like, you fucking city fucks. Yeah.
Bales. We also had, we dispose of the hay in our alley, which we have like a little strip of grass and like whatever.

Speaker 1 You can dispose of hay? You just put it outside. You just put it outside, but we put it in a big

Speaker 6 mound.

Speaker 1 And then we had... A couple people hit me up, which is very funny, like how niche and unique this complaint is.
They're like,

Speaker 1 hopefully next time these guys do it, they'll learn that you just don't throw it in a big like pile. I was like, okay, my bad.
I had no idea. What do they want us to do?

Speaker 1 I guess either donate it, like Billy was saying, to a horse charity.

Speaker 7 Yeah, Billy was looking for a horse shelter to give it to.

Speaker 6 Also, I guess you're not supposed to keep it in a big pile because rats will start living in it.

Speaker 7 That kind of makes sense. That part makes sense.
Yeah. Paige told me she was putting it back there so that we could build a paintball arena for it.

Speaker 1 We spread it out already. And they said also, which also makes sense, is like it's a fire hazard.
If you just have a big mound of hay.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it does make sense.

Speaker 13 Yeah, we're not the smartest.

Speaker 1 Okay, Jake, finish us off.

Speaker 14 Yeah, first off, Hank, I want to apologize for screwing up the backup of the bonk list.

Speaker 1 It's all right.

Speaker 1 Second of all, I want to say we'll get him next year, but. Didn't sound like you accepted the apology.

Speaker 10 Backup boy is a very funny name.

Speaker 14 Backup boy is a very funny name. I laughed every time you said that.

Speaker 1 Do you want me to back you up this year?

Speaker 7 Disown everything.

Speaker 1 Do you want him to back you up?

Speaker 10 Official backup boy.

Speaker 7 You want to see Jake back it up?

Speaker 1 I don't want to say this in front of you guys. What?

Speaker 1 Don't. Take your headphones off.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Jake, you should make your own list, and then when it gets close to doing the bonklits, I'll just take that list. Okay, Hank's doing less work.
No problem. No, no, no.
Yes,

Speaker 1 yes, back me up. No, but Hank's

Speaker 7 being a good director.

Speaker 7 He's managing. That's true.
It's teamwork. It's called delegating responsibility.
Independent

Speaker 1 oversight. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 7 You're being a leader of men.

Speaker 1 We're going to have the same ones, but just in case

Speaker 1 we can compare notes beforehand.

Speaker 14 But just a heads up, it's not going to have January of 2024.

Speaker 1 Okay. That's fine.
By the way,

Speaker 1 one last thing about Billy. None of us did anything horny in this.

Speaker 1 It wouldn't be shocking.

Speaker 1 It probably doesn't shock anyone that Billy got in screaming matches on the basketball courts within the first hour of being here. Yep.

Speaker 13 Yep.

Speaker 7 We were taping in the studio and just heard Billy yelling about, no, the score's wrong. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We were playing sevens, too, which is just a three-point shooting game. And he broke like 15 in a row.
And he's like, just got to get used to these rims. Well, it's a basketball rim.

Speaker 7 I miss Billy. I miss him.

Speaker 6 Three days was good.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 12 It was great to be reunited.

Speaker 14 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, Jake, go ahead.

Speaker 14 Yeah, so I botched the birthday cake presentation. I put out the lit candles right outside, and Max saved me from lighting this office on fire.
Oh,

Speaker 14 because by the time I was about to present, the candles were basically out.

Speaker 1 That would not have lit the office on fire.

Speaker 1 So it would have just gone out in the cake. Correct.
Oh. Got it.
But it could have. You don't have to.
No, no, I actually think that might be the safest place to light candles is in a birthday cake.

Speaker 14 Oh, so it would have been fine?

Speaker 1 Where would they have burned to?

Speaker 7 The wax would have just melted down into the cake. Into the cake.

Speaker 7 My additional fire fest is that I should have pushed that cake into Jake Mess.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I was actually kind of upset.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I would have felt bad about it.

Speaker 1 No, I wouldn't have. Yeah.

Speaker 14 My additional, additional Fire Fest is I screwed up the Joe Buck script.

Speaker 14 We talked about this beforehand.

Speaker 14 I meant to throw a jab at every little person.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, Hank, Jake said that he threw a jab at every person. His jab was, and there's Jake Marsh, who someday wants to take my job in the booth.

Speaker 1 That's not a jab. Yeah, I understand.
Well, I've, okay, I saw it the wrong way.

Speaker 14 I'm an idiot.

Speaker 1 That's the opposite of a jab.

Speaker 14 Yeah, I'm an idiot.

Speaker 1 Screw me.

Speaker 6 Who's just funny watching it?

Speaker 1 Bad guy.

Speaker 7 I think it was good, Jake.

Speaker 1 Don't beat yourself up. Don't beat yourself up.
All right. Numbers.

Speaker 14 18.

Speaker 1 39. 20.

Speaker 10 Today's a day.

Speaker 12 Three.

Speaker 1 Can't you 40.

Speaker 10 Someone's getting it today. I'll go 39.

Speaker 1 Three.

Speaker 10 Someone's getting it today. 99 today.

Speaker 1 21.

Speaker 10 Someone's getting it today.

Speaker 1 What's your number, Max? 20.

Speaker 1 40, like a melody in my head.

Speaker 1 28.

Speaker 1 28. What's your number, Max? 20.
Oh, that's not even close. It's kind of close.
Should we do another? I got one of them.

Speaker 1 You want to do one more? Yeah. Oh, we have to pre-tape next week.

Speaker 7 Oh, yeah, we do. And we have have to ask every guest that comes on.
Unless.

Speaker 7 Wait, did we do Shane will be here? I think we've already done one for next week.

Speaker 12 What? Haven't we?

Speaker 1 No. Oh, I don't think so.

Speaker 14 With

Speaker 1 let's just do one more right here. Okay.
All right.

Speaker 6 This one counts.

Speaker 1 40.

Speaker 1 71. I'm going back 71.
18.

Speaker 1 What's everyone else's? 8. 99.

Speaker 1 20. I hope.

Speaker 15 49 so good.

Speaker 1 77.

Speaker 1 Oh, so close.

Speaker 7 Love you guys.

Speaker 7 No giving away.

Speaker 7 I don't know what

Speaker 7 to say. I'm saying you will.

Speaker 7 Today is on my day to follow you. Shiny.

Speaker 7 I'll be coming for your love of day.

Speaker 7 I'll be coming for your love of day.

Speaker 7 Drink of me.

Speaker 7 Needless to to say,

Speaker 7 I'm upset in spirit, so let it wait.

Speaker 7 Slowly, look, my jokes say on me.

Speaker 7 At least I'm better to be safe and sorry. Hey,

Speaker 7 come

Speaker 7 dream on me.

Speaker 7 Everybody

Speaker 7 only I am