Jameis Winston, The Bears And Commanders Are On A Crash Course To Trade, Super Bowl Week And More

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Speaker 1 On today's pardon my take, Jameis Winston. We got him.
He came to the office for a full day. We've been sitting on it for about three weeks now, just waiting for this interview to come out.

Speaker 1 It was everything we wanted and more.

Speaker 4 I love Jameis. It was the best.
I love Jameis. A little bit of something for everybody in this interview.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. So, incredible interview to kick off Super Bowl week.
We are here in Las Vegas. We're going to do who's back of the week.
We're going to talk about Cliff Kingsbury to the Commanders.

Speaker 1 We're going to talk about Max being the grossest person in the world to sit next to in an airplane. And then at the end of the show,

Speaker 1 because it's the first Monday that we've had without football to talk about, we will have Max and Memes recap the Grammys. So

Speaker 1 they're in charge right now of distilling the Grammys and giving us everything that happened. Who says we can't do everything? Right? Right.
We do it all.

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Speaker 1 Welcome to part of my take. Today is Monday, Monday, February 5th, and boys, Jameis Winston episode.

Speaker 4 Very excited about this. Jameis is the best.

Speaker 1 He's the best.

Speaker 4 He hung out for about like, what, four hours

Speaker 1 at the commercial office? Maybe longer than that.

Speaker 4 We played some basketball with him. He put us through some drills.

Speaker 1 We got some videos coming out.

Speaker 4 PM TV coming out on Thursday.

Speaker 4 He ate some meals with Donnie, I believe.

Speaker 1 It was the hardest thing to have to sit on this interview because he came three weeks ago and we knew that if we showed that he was in the office, people would be like, We want the interview right now, which totally understand because I wanted to post the interview right away.

Speaker 1 We were like, Super Bowl week, another white whale checked off the list. We did not sing Stand On the Corner to him.
That was the only regret I had.

Speaker 4 Sorry, yeah. I mean, Big Cat's right.
We've sat on a lot of really hard stuff before, and this was definitely the hardest and the longest we've had to sit on something.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes,

Speaker 1 you get it, Hank. It was a sex joke.

Speaker 1 Did you sex? A sex problem? problem.

Speaker 1 But it's an awesome interview.

Speaker 4 So get excited.

Speaker 1 It's going to be great.

Speaker 1 We got some stuff we've got to talk about before.

Speaker 1 What do we want to do first?

Speaker 4 Well, we can let the speculation begin.

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah, let's talk about this. Cliff Kingsbury to the commanders.

Speaker 4 So per Adam Schafter, let the speculation begin. Cliff Kingsbury coached Caleb Williams last season.
Williams was a standout quarterback at Gonzaga High School in D.C.

Speaker 4 The Commanders currently hold the number two overall pick and are in striking distance. So per Adam Schaffer,

Speaker 4 let the speculation begin.

Speaker 4 I'm going to speculate so hard. I'm going to theorize.
I'm going to postulate all over the place. I'm going to, oh my God, I'm going to contemplate and it's going to be great.

Speaker 4 And the fact of the matter is that this is a trade that could happen between the Commanders and the Bears, which could tear this podcast apart. That's one thing that definitely could happen.

Speaker 4 And Hank's very happy about that. It'd be a lot more vacation time for you, Hank.

Speaker 4 It's also a good possibility that, given the draft history and the trade history that we both have in our franchise's past,

Speaker 4 we might both fuck this up.

Speaker 1 Well, I would say I would make the

Speaker 1 guess right now that the commanders have already fucked this up because no one has overplayed their hand more than the commanders have already overplayed their hand.

Speaker 1 They had Caleb Williams' dad given being a source to Colin Coward earlier in the week, retracted, but at first he was like, I'm hearing out of Caleb Williams camp that he doesn't want to play in Chicago.

Speaker 4 You think the commanders told him to do that?

Speaker 1 No, no, I'm saying Cale Williams. I think Caleb Williams probably wants to play.
I'm saying Caleb Williams' dad overplayed that hand. Got it.

Speaker 1 Then they got Cliff Kingsbury overplaying that hand where you get the connection. It's very clear that they want Caleb Williams.
So I'm fine with trading the number one pick for all of the picks.

Speaker 1 I want all of the picks. You guys have overplayed your hand to the point where it's like obvious that you're lusting for this guy.
I am. And that's a bad spot to be in a negotiation three months out.

Speaker 4 Okay, so I've got the draft value chart right here. Throw it out.

Speaker 1 Per Jimmy John. You want all the picks.

Speaker 4 I agree. Throw it out because we have the second overall pick.
Well, you know what? You guys can basically, because if you're not going to take Caleb one,

Speaker 4 you can take whoever you're going to take anyways at two, right?

Speaker 1 Fuck the draft value chart. I wrote down a few things that I would like,

Speaker 1 and we can start the negotiation. Okay.

Speaker 1 No. One, Terry McLaurin.
No.

Speaker 1 The pickback for Montez Sweat. No.

Speaker 1 I want the commander's new name to be the Junior Bears. And I also,

Speaker 1 yeah, that would be cool. I'm into the Junior Bears.

Speaker 1 Somebody's like, oh, that's the Cubs. No, I want Junior Bears.

Speaker 4 Junior Bears again.

Speaker 1 And then I I want Tyrese Maxie on the Bulls. Okay.
Yeah, I'm going to

Speaker 1 start my negotiations.

Speaker 4 Okay, I'm going to authorize Tyrese Maxi and the Junior Bears.

Speaker 1 I did hear

Speaker 1 it was very funny.

Speaker 1 The Ben Johnson fallout was a big time he said, he said situation where Ben Johnson claimed there was reports that Ben Johnson thought they were too much, they weren't football guys, they were too much basketball guys.

Speaker 1 And then the commanders were like, he didn't,

Speaker 1 he didn't interview well and wanted too much money. Yeah.
And everyone's finger pointing. But I like the idea that he walked in and was like, smells like basketball in here.

Speaker 4 I don't like this. So I will authorize Tyrese Maxie

Speaker 4 on behalf of Josh Harris. That's fine.
We'll trade him.

Speaker 1 I would take Joelle.

Speaker 1 We'll throw him in. He's hurt.
I don't want him.

Speaker 4 He could be a nice piece. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So we'll do both of those. And then I'm also looking through who do you want from the Devils?

Speaker 1 The guy who, Frank, said he broke his legs.

Speaker 4 The guy who broke it, Jack Hughes? Yeah, I'll be.

Speaker 4 We'll give give you Jack Hughes and Tyrese Maxi, and we'll toss in Joellen Bede. And

Speaker 4 I would be willing to.

Speaker 1 And the first pick, by the way, the first pick in the draft for the next three years.

Speaker 4 I would be willing to also throw in the Montez sweat pick because that's a nice humiliation thing where it's like, oh, we gave you this pick. Actually, no, we got him for free.

Speaker 4 I'm going to give you the second overall pick. No to Terry McLaurin.

Speaker 1 The next year's first.

Speaker 4 The second round pick, which really all by the draft value chart, all the commanders would need to do by this, since we do have the second pick, it would actually be an overpay if we just threw in pick 34.

Speaker 1 Well, guess what? You're overpaying. You're overpaying because you guys have made it very clear you want Caleb Williams, and that was the dumbest thing you could do.

Speaker 4 Now, what if hypothetically,

Speaker 4 there was a guy by the name of Eli Manning that got drafted a while ago. You remember him? Yeah.
So Eli, he actually got drafted by the Chargers, which is crazy.

Speaker 4 And then he went up there, took a picture, did the whole thing. And then his dad told the Chargers,

Speaker 4 he's not going to play down in San Diego. We're going to have to work some sort of trade out here.

Speaker 4 Now, what if Caleb Williams' dad, who seems to also have no problems going in front of the press, what if he says to the Bears, my son's not going to play?

Speaker 1 What's Cale Williams' dad's name?

Speaker 4 I'm not sure.

Speaker 6 What's his last name?

Speaker 1 Williams? Oh, so it's not Manning?

Speaker 1 Okay, so then we can just throw that out. Okay.
Because I mean, Archie Manning is the shadow commissioner. That's why that happened.

Speaker 4 That's a fact.

Speaker 1 And the last time was John Elway because he's going to go play for the Yankees. Is Cale Williams going to go play for the Yankees? He might.
Okay. Well, maybe he should start throwing some baseball.

Speaker 1 Learn baseball, buddy.

Speaker 4 That would actually be great if somehow they got in touch with the learners and they said, hey, we need the Nationals to also draft Caleb. We know that he's not a baseball player, but just draft him.

Speaker 4 Listen,

Speaker 1 it's going to be an interesting couple months of speculation. I just know that the hand has been overplayed by the commanders as quickly as it could possibly be.

Speaker 1 I will overplay.

Speaker 4 If there's anything you know about me, it's that I overplay every hand that I have. Yeah.
So I'm happy to deal with this one.

Speaker 1 And on top of all that, a certain friend of the program who sometimes shares thoughts with Henry Lockwood has said that he actually thinks Drake May might be the better quarterback.

Speaker 4 Interesting.

Speaker 1 He's been getting in my ear about that.

Speaker 4 Who's this guy?

Speaker 1 I don't know. He's got a dog avatar.
He looks like Hank. Oh, oh, yeah.
So basically, Hank.

Speaker 4 He's a bear's fan. Now I am.

Speaker 4 Yeah, great takes.

Speaker 1 Great takes.

Speaker 4 Great takes. I am.
A little concerned about having a quarterback named Caleb potentially. Well, if you get Caleb.
Quarterbacks named Caleb.

Speaker 4 They're funny guys and they're good glue guys.

Speaker 1 You want morale.

Speaker 4 If If you want a supervisor morale, if you want them to interview your other star players with their fat friend in the podcast with them, I think that would be great.

Speaker 4 But I don't know about a quarterback named Caleb.

Speaker 1 Well, just go with the UNC quarterback. Yeah, would you rather have a quarterback named Caleb or a quarterback that went to the UNC?

Speaker 1 That was kind of awkward that Drake May and Sam Howell were sitting next to each other at the Duke UNC game. And Drake Duke.
Duke is a joke, by the way. Duke is done.

Speaker 4 Drake May is so much taller.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Duke is done forever.
Yeah, they're a joke.

Speaker 8 I watched that game for the first half.

Speaker 1 I was like, it's a joke. They're a joke.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 out it.

Speaker 8 If you want Terry McLaurin,

Speaker 4 I said no.

Speaker 8 Wouldn't you want Marvin Harrison Jr., and then you have a great wide receiver quarterback?

Speaker 1 You did stay out of the quarterbacks. I'm just asking.

Speaker 4 That's a good question, Hank.

Speaker 1 Stay out of that.

Speaker 4 If you're trading the number one overall pick, then I would assume that you would not want to take that guy first overall. You could still get whoever you wanted with the second overall pick.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 I want as many weapons. I want everything.
We're going to get everything.

Speaker 4 Weapons for Justin?

Speaker 1 No. For whoever we take, number two.
Got it.

Speaker 1 Who might be be the better quarterback?

Speaker 1 This is just going to be. According to Tom Fernelli.

Speaker 4 It's not going to be good for the podcast. No.
It's not.

Speaker 4 But maybe it's going to be great. Hank's just looking for anybody else to take heat today because he's a little bit nervous about his special little show that's coming up on Tuesday.

Speaker 4 And I understand that.

Speaker 1 But be honest for a second. Like, if the Commanders do trade for Kale Williams, they are going to have to overpay at this point.
They have overplayed their hand.

Speaker 1 Like, it's the one, the one thing that happens with drafts is if it's very obvious one team wants some guy and and the bears are sitting there at one like yeah okay now you have to pay a ton for it and you know what like it's not going to be a regular like two to one i'm expecting unless he does pull in eli manning i am expecting a little bit of an overpay eli manning was a manning right like they the mannings run everything well i mean caleb williams was asking people for like equity in the in in the team those were those are ml football accounts i if caleb williams gets drafted one overall by the bears he's going to be playing for the bears okay it's a possibility that he might not though That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 4 It's a possibility. What?

Speaker 1 Doing what?

Speaker 1 By just sitting out? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I just don't see, like, then,

Speaker 1 like,

Speaker 1 it just doesn't make sense.

Speaker 4 It's probably not going to happen, but it's a lot of money. But it could.

Speaker 4 And in terms of an overpay, yeah, there's going to be an overpay there because you, number one, Caleb Williams is, he's been projected for the last like three years as being this franchise changing quarterback.

Speaker 4 So there will be a little bit of an overpay built into it. But at least knowing that we've got high picks in the second round, we have the Montez sweat pick.

Speaker 4 I still, to me, as long as it's not like multiple firsts.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 I need at least two firsts.

Speaker 8 I've heard on shows before people talk about like if you could, you know, there was no salary cap or you could start

Speaker 8 with tomorrow. Speculate for you.
You could take Patrick Mahomes first and do whatever it takes to get Patrick Mahomes because he's that much more valuable to your franchise. Yeah.

Speaker 6 So don't you think it'd be worth it if you could get a guy like that?

Speaker 1 You have to pay a lot. I'd say for

Speaker 4 if we're getting a top five quarterback

Speaker 4 or a guy that would evolve into a top five quarterback in the NFL, I would say that a little bit of an overpayment is actually an underpayment.

Speaker 1 All the picks.

Speaker 1 On every pick for the rest of the time. So we're going to...

Speaker 1 All the picks for the rest of the time? I'd take all the picks for the rest of the time. All the picks for the rest of the time.
Got it. That's how I'd negotiate.

Speaker 4 Commander Caleb, it might happen. I don't know.
It is weird how Cliff, he was going to be the OC for the Raiders, and that seemed like it was a done deal.

Speaker 4 And then he backed out of that at the last second. And next thing you know, he's going to D.C.
It's almost like he knew something was in order.

Speaker 4 So I would imagine that something is cooking.

Speaker 1 More logical thing is the commanders are desperate to try to get Caleb Williams. They're like, we've got to get Cliff Kingsbury and overpay for him.
Wouldn't that be more Nathaniel Hackett?

Speaker 1 Wouldn't that be more logical? I mean, you're thinking about it only that benefits you. Wouldn't it also be logical that the commanders are like, we need to figure out a way to get Caleb Williams.

Speaker 1 Let's pay Cliff Kingsbury a ton of money to come here.

Speaker 4 Yeah, which came first, chicken or the egg? I don't know.

Speaker 4 I don't think anybody knows what happened, but I would assume that either we overpaid Cliff like a motherfucker, which we probably don't need to do because he's still collecting that fat check from the Cardinals, right?

Speaker 4 The one where he said he was going to go live in Thailand for like nine years.

Speaker 4 So I don't know if we're overpaying. We might be, but if we're not, then I have to think that he had it in the back of his head that something's going to go down in D.C.

Speaker 4 that's not going to go down in Vegas.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just don't think anything has been decided yet. So I don't know how, like, Josh.
I mean,

Speaker 1 he's a basketball guy, so he probably doesn't know how football treats.

Speaker 4 This is all speculation.

Speaker 4 We're just speculating. Adam Schaeffer told us to let the speculation begin.
This is all pure speculation, but I do know that I would be very happy with Caleb Williams.

Speaker 4 He would make my little heart grow three sizes that day.

Speaker 1 You had to pay a lot for him. Okay.
A lot.

Speaker 1 A lot. Well, he's probably going to suck anyway.

Speaker 4 We'll keep this going.

Speaker 1 If he ends up being a bad guy. Man, imagine that.

Speaker 4 Then we got Cliff, hot young offensive coordinator. Yeah, because they got new owner.

Speaker 1 We got

Speaker 1 this year with Cliff.

Speaker 4 Leader of men.

Speaker 1 USC was awesome this year with Cliff.

Speaker 4 Caleb was pretty good.

Speaker 1 Notre Dame game.

Speaker 1 Could play this game.

Speaker 1 I'm basically taking everything that people, all the Justin Fields stands use against me when I say I want Caleb Williams, and I'm just going to weaponize it back at you.

Speaker 1 I've never heard people say, like, oh, the Notre Dame game is like, I don't give a fuck about one game in college.

Speaker 4 I've never, never once said anything bad about Cliff Kingsbury. Don't look it up.

Speaker 4 But I'm whatever it takes. And I would be very, very happy and very excited for

Speaker 4 a breath of fresh air with Washington football if that happened.

Speaker 1 Okay, other things. We're in Vegas.
It's the Super Bowl. Someone told me that I say Soup bowl on Twitter.
Do I say Soup Bowl? I think I say Super Bowl correctly. Soup or Bowl? I say soup.

Speaker 1 I don't find this for you. It was a very, very odd thing.
I don't think I've ever... Now I'm like very...
By the way. He said, can you please stop saying soup bowl? It's two syllables, super bowl.

Speaker 1 You like your soup. We get it.
Maybe he was talking to you. But Jesus Christ, you talk on the air for a living.
Learn to say simple English words for fuck's sake.

Speaker 4 No, we won't.

Speaker 1 I'm pretty sure I say Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 Super Bowl. It's a pretty easy thing to say super bowl

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Speaker 1 We're here in Vegas for the big game. I'm starting to think about switching to the 49ers.
Join me. I'm getting the thoughts in my head.

Speaker 4 So,

Speaker 4 I put in the biggest bet of my life on the 49ers, and

Speaker 4 I feel like we can stop Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, see, I say this every time.

Speaker 4 We can be the ones to do it.

Speaker 1 And we have Chris Berman coming on Wednesday, and we talked it out a little bit about just how stupid you feel when you lose money going against Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 1 The last time I bet on Patrick Mahomes in a playoff game, I believe,

Speaker 1 was the Super Bowl against the Bucs.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I might be screwed no matter what, which door I choose.

Speaker 4 Listen, we can do it together. This is it.
This is like, okay, Josh couldn't do it. Lamar can't do it.

Speaker 4 We can do this. We can be the ones to stop him.

Speaker 1 Hank, you're thinking of it too.

Speaker 4 Yeah, do it, Hank.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I already put the bet in, and I can't cash out in Vegas, so I will be taking everything in and making a decision on Sunday morning.

Speaker 6 Okay.

Speaker 4 Okay. Yeah.
I mean, like, this would be us against Patrick Mahomes and Taylor Swift.

Speaker 4 And we are really good at disappointing women, and we have an opportunity to disappoint like a billion of them at the same time by the Chiefs losing this game.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, story developing. Story developing.

Speaker 4 Let the speculation begin.

Speaker 9 Let the speculation begin.

Speaker 1 What side we're going to... I'm sure everyone was...
dying to know what side we're going to bet on as a podcast.

Speaker 4 Well, there's, I think it's like 75% of the money and the bets have come in on the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was like, that was just me just hammering the Chiefs right after the Ravens lost. But yeah,

Speaker 1 we'll see. We'll story developing.
The other news we got, Joe Mbi officially needs surgery. Yeah.
He's got a knee flap.

Speaker 4 Damn. Yeah, knee flap meniscus.
That's not a good injury. So they said unknown timetable for recovery.

Speaker 4 I did check pro football doc, Dr. David Chow's timeline a couple days ago.
He said, if it's the surgery that we think he needs, it's unlikely he's going to return.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 8 Yeah, but that's it's football, not focused.

Speaker 4 It's football. Yeah, football guy, not a basketball guy.
Yeah. Josh Harris would be able to tell you he's coming back.

Speaker 1 So he might not, when could he earliest return? Well,

Speaker 1 it has to be before the conference finals, right?

Speaker 4 Because it'd probably be in the conference finals. It'd probably be after they played Jokic.
Right.

Speaker 4 Let me see.

Speaker 1 Max, how are you feeling about this? I don't know. I'm all over the place.
Okay.

Speaker 8 Wow, what else is going on?

Speaker 1 Should we just talk about the other?

Speaker 4 No, no, he's. I'm sorry.
I want to update this here. He said recovery could easily leak into playoffs.
So he could be back at some point in the playoffs.

Speaker 10 I think he'll be back.

Speaker 11 I think he'll be back.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 10 now it's worried about getting there.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 10 Without him beat it. I mean,

Speaker 10 you just have to score 50 every day.

Speaker 1 Maybe he's the one who's keeping you from getting to the conference finals.

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Speaker 1 All right, let's get to, let's, let's, Max is on edge for other reasons. So we flew to Vegas today.

Speaker 1 Max was coming from New York. We all flew from Chicago.
I had to sit next to, well,

Speaker 1 let's just say this, PFT. Let's sit at the table this way.
I had to sit next to what I thought was the most annoying person to ever sit next to on a plane. Who's that? Henry Lockwood.

Speaker 1 He was just hitting me and anxious.

Speaker 1 He like... elbowed me when I fell asleep before dramatically before the flight even took off.

Speaker 1 And he took off his, he took off his shoes instantly.

Speaker 4 Dead gross.

Speaker 1 Was hitting me, was like trying to tickle me, was was like moving my food around, just an annoying pest.

Speaker 1 He had that annoying energy of like, I'm about to do, yeah, like this right now, because he's about to do his stand-up.

Speaker 1 So I would say he's the most annoying person to ever sit next to on a plane.

Speaker 4 So I was trying to talk to you to get, you know, some advice, and you literally like, don't fucking speak to me.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 8 And just put your headphones on and turn to him.

Speaker 4 I was trying to take a nap. So the first time I ever sat next to Hank on an airplane,

Speaker 4 we were taking off, and this is probably 2016, 2017. And I'm sitting next to him, and then he just starts puking all over himself.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And yogurt's coming up. He's trying to catch it in his hands.
It's splattering everywhere.

Speaker 1 And I was like, Hank, what's going on, man?

Speaker 4 He's like, I get anxious on flights, and usually I get really high, but I didn't get high enough before this flight. So I puked my go-gurt all over this.

Speaker 1 They too were actually. So, yeah.
And then facts are adding.

Speaker 4 And then I rode over to the hotel in the same car as Hank. The first thing Hank said was, You guys, you guys take your shoes off on a flight, right? Yeah.
And I was like, no, never.

Speaker 4 I never take my shoes off on a flight.

Speaker 1 Was this my living room? No, we have Breaking Muse. Breaking Muse.
Adam Schefter has got his brain all scrambled. He just tweeted, Chiefs and Commanders both have now arrived in Las Vegas.

Speaker 1 The week of Super Bowl 58 officially is underway.

Speaker 4 Let's go.

Speaker 1 We did it. We made it.
Damn.

Speaker 1 49ers just not a participant. Yeah, so Hank is not a great flyer, but

Speaker 1 he was just an annoying pest, but I still love him. He just was touching me too much.

Speaker 4 His shoes off on a flight is a wild move.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I get touched all day. I was like, people

Speaker 1 touch me,

Speaker 1 constantly. I like to sleep on flights.

Speaker 8 It's way easier to sleep with my shoes off. I took a shower before the flight.
I put on a fresh pair of clean socks.

Speaker 1 But you have to understand, Hank, I lit, like, day to day, I'm like constantly in a state of like, I need a nap so bad.

Speaker 1 And then someone comes and just like hits me in the balls or like, like, oh, daddy, wake up. And then I got on a plane.
I was like, ooh, I can nap.

Speaker 1 And I had my other kid just fucking smashing me every time I took a nap.

Speaker 4 No one wants to see your socks. No one wants to smell your feet on a plane, though.
You can't smell my feet. They're cold.

Speaker 1 I smell them. They're so bad.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Hank thinks that he's the only person on God's green earth with good smelling feet. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, but so he was the worst person to ever sit next to you, right?

Speaker 4 Apparently not, Big Cat.

Speaker 4 I'm glad you brought this up. I got a text because we were watching the Grammys go down here.
And Miley, by the way, fantastic. Great job, Miley.
Great outfits.

Speaker 4 I was taking a picture of the screen, and Max was standing in front of the screen as I took the picture.

Speaker 4 I tweeted it out, and I got a text message from a very good friend of mine, friend of the program, Diana Rossini from The Athletic.

Speaker 4 She's a reporter.

Speaker 1 She's a reporter.

Speaker 4 She actually did report this. I complimented her reporting because it was so detailed.
Apparently, she sat next to Max on the flight.

Speaker 4 She wasn't sure it was Max, though, which I'm going to ding Diana for that for not immediately recognizing Max. Tough to miss guy.

Speaker 4 But she said, Does Max live in New York?

Speaker 4 Because I sat next to a guy in a plane who is really

Speaker 4 Come over here, Max.

Speaker 4 I got to read this from the start.

Speaker 1 This is

Speaker 1 okay. All right.
It's okay. It's okay.
PFD brought this up right before.

Speaker 4 Well, she's a reporter. I'm reading a report.
We read Adam Chapter's.

Speaker 1 We're going to chat our audio guy.

Speaker 1 He's going to make sure you're set. You're screaming in the mic.
You're good. Okay.
PFD brought this up right before.

Speaker 4 Well, she texted me right before we started.

Speaker 14 She won't tell me what it is.

Speaker 1 Well, now he's going to tell you.

Speaker 10 I know, but now we're just doing it live. Like, this is.

Speaker 1 Well, no, no, this is tape.

Speaker 1 This is so bad.

Speaker 1 You edit the podcast. That's true.

Speaker 9 I ate a burrito. I ate a burrito.

Speaker 1 The anxiousness, it's good.

Speaker 8 I've been very anxious for the past couple weeks, and seeing Max this anxious is actually making me feel a lot better.

Speaker 1 Notice that he doesn't touch me at all.

Speaker 4 Let's get to it. Let's get to it here.

Speaker 1 Stop.

Speaker 1 Stop touching me. Does Max slide up for Vegas? Does Max slippery?

Speaker 10 No, this is like, oh, this is like a nightmare.

Speaker 1 This is a nightmare.

Speaker 10 Okay, well, this is.

Speaker 1 So you sat next to Diana on the plane, not realizing that you're a gross human being. And now she's reporting it.

Speaker 4 Exclusive report from Diana Rossini of the Athletic. I sat next to a guy in a plane who is really big.
Is Max big?

Speaker 1 Yes. Confirmed, yes.
Haha.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he was in New York this weekend. That was me.
She said, he's disgusting.

Speaker 4 He ate his food on the plane like a monster, was basically breathing heavy and smelling terrible. Don't tell him I said it, but I was so grossed out.

Speaker 4 Ask him if he sat aisle row. If so, he farted during his naps.

Speaker 4 I was texting with NFL people the entire flight. He had a chance to see super private convos.
He missed out.

Speaker 4 He was sitting right next to me, ripping farts during the nap. And there's one, two, three, four, five, seven peas on ripping.
He is one of the most disgusting human beings I've ever sat next to.

Speaker 4 Ask him if he scarfed some burrito sandwich before we took off. Is that you, Max?

Speaker 1 You ate a burrito right before you took off?

Speaker 10 I was really really late getting to the airport. This is like, this is.

Speaker 1 The fact that

Speaker 10 we're putting this on the show is bullshit.

Speaker 1 No, it's not. Yes, it is.
Okay, wait, wait. You sat next to a reporter.
She's reporting.

Speaker 4 She goes on. He's definitely single.

Speaker 4 But then, cute face, by the way.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 4 cute face, Max. And also, no, he's not single.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 4 He was completely.

Speaker 1 He might be after this.

Speaker 4 He was completely in his own world. He smelled of hungover.

Speaker 4 He's also very unhealthy. Two sodas.

Speaker 1 You have two sodas?

Speaker 4 He listens to his music way too loudly. I'm very concerned about Max's overall health.
He was blasting techno.

Speaker 1 These are all facts because he hasn't disputed anything.

Speaker 10 He was farting. I didn't know.
Well, obviously, I didn't know about the farting in my sleeve.

Speaker 4 Wait, she apologized.

Speaker 10 To be fair, we were sitting next to the. I mean, the farting, I guess.

Speaker 1 Okay. I can't really defend.

Speaker 10 But, like, we were sitting directly next to the bathroom, which is like

Speaker 1 the bathroom smells.

Speaker 4 Yeah, this could have been the bathroom. She said, I don't want to be mean-spirited.

Speaker 10 Thanks. We're starting off here, Diana.

Speaker 4 But I changed poopy diapers six to eight times a day, and his fart smelled like my kid's diaper genie. Oh, no.

Speaker 4 I recently read about a guy who got kicked off a plane for farting so much, and I texted my husband and said, I want this guy kicked off, swear to God.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 4 That's an exclusive report.

Speaker 10 I did not, I guess I was sleeping. Like, how are you supposed to know that when you're sleeping?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, we'll just maybe don't eat burrito before you get on a plane.

Speaker 10 So this is what happened. I woke up at a 1.10 flight.
I woke up at 11.15.

Speaker 1 Panic.

Speaker 10 Absolute panic.

Speaker 10 And it's a five and a half hour flight from New York.

Speaker 1 No shower. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Booz coming out of your pocket.

Speaker 10 Booze coming out of my. It was a late night last night.
And then I

Speaker 10 so then I would have gone like

Speaker 10 14 hours without eating. Like, I needed to get something.
I go, there's

Speaker 10 lines out the ass for all the food places. There was Mexican place that was the only place, the only one that didn't have a line.

Speaker 1 And he's like, please don't eat this before you get on a plane. Correct.

Speaker 10 That I could go get food and still make the flight. It could have been anything.

Speaker 10 It was my only choice.

Speaker 14 And you just ended up next to a reporter.

Speaker 1 Then you spent the story. That was your only mistake.
Yeah, you spent the whole flight trying to chase whatever you did last night, listening to techno farting your dreams away.

Speaker 4 Like, oh my God, I hope that I'm not sitting next to a journalist.

Speaker 10 Yeah, like, how am I supposed to know if I was, like, how am I supposed to know that I was farting in my sleep? I was sleeping.

Speaker 1 That's a good point.

Speaker 1 That's a solid point.

Speaker 10 You kept saying, like, oh, you have to know what you did. Like, how am I supposed to know that? That's true.

Speaker 1 How am I supposed to know that?

Speaker 4 She did not say anything about it about her.

Speaker 10 She's my enemy.

Speaker 1 We're going to have her on comment.

Speaker 9 Or you're also my enemy.

Speaker 4 And you'll get to refute this report face to face.

Speaker 1 No, no, I can't. I'm not refuting anything.
He has not.

Speaker 4 So he's saying she deserves an award. Yeah, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 PFT. You were reading it.
I was watching his face. Two sodas, techno, facts.
Everything else is facts. So the farting is.

Speaker 10 When you're hungover, yes, I had a late night last night. I wanted, like, a Diet Coke

Speaker 10 feels good. Two of them.
I had, well, I also had the Mexican soda.

Speaker 1 The Mexican sodas are good.

Speaker 8 I fall asleep on every flight. I always, you know, no, you can't.

Speaker 1 You did this one.

Speaker 8 You can't go on flights.

Speaker 8 And one of my biggest fears is like I'll wake up after falling asleep for like a five-hour flight and be like, this person next to me is probably texting people and being like, this person, it's an absolute money.

Speaker 1 That's what I had to deal with today with you.

Speaker 14 So that's my biggest. What happened?

Speaker 10 Yes, this is the worst thing that could possibly happen to you.

Speaker 1 What about the flight crashing?

Speaker 1 This is worse.

Speaker 1 You know what this is? This is karma for Max hoping that we crash our plane. That's true.
This is karma.

Speaker 4 Hey, Max, I hope you had a really good flight. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I hope you had a really good flight where you didn't fart at all. Damn.

Speaker 10 But like, I wish that I could

Speaker 10 because I have zero recollection of a single fart.

Speaker 6 Like, I,

Speaker 10 to my knowledge, I had zero farts. But if I was sleeping, like, I could have been.

Speaker 1 Like, I think the fact that the burrito doesn't help the case. Yeah, burrito.
No no noise. Like, no answer.

Speaker 1 What did he do? Correct. Two sodas.
Yeah. A little carbonation in the gut.

Speaker 4 Two sodas.

Speaker 14 And you woke up first and probably didn't tell you.

Speaker 1 A five and a half hour flight. Let's tell it.

Speaker 10 Like, two sodas is not that big.

Speaker 4 You could have used the fart.

Speaker 10 How many times on a football Sunday, one football Sunday, how many sodas goes through that gambling case? Well, she just said, I'm worried about him.

Speaker 4 He's not healthy.

Speaker 1 I'm sad. Two sodas.
He looks like he's healthy. Yeah, what you guys did.

Speaker 10 I've never had two sodas over five hours.

Speaker 1 Never. Five hours.
I'll stop at one because I don't want to fart.

Speaker 4 You know what, Max? This might be good, though. This might just be like a kick in the ass.

Speaker 1 Fuck off. Time to get healthy again.

Speaker 1 All right, Max. Fuck off.
You go back to your seat. We'll talk to you for the Grammys.

Speaker 10 I've done nothing for the Grammys.

Speaker 4 Max have been stressed out about this report.

Speaker 1 Because she just kept sending me. You can see it too.
Those sweatpants, those farts just fucking escaped, though.

Speaker 4 She just kept sending me more and more information about the flight, and he was just sweating.

Speaker 10 And it also, like, we were next to the bathroom. Like, where we were, where we were sitting, yeah, it couldn't have been closer.

Speaker 1 Why didn't you just go take a shit? I didn't have to shit. Was it walking to the aisle?

Speaker 10 No, I was in the aisle. She was in the also

Speaker 10 middle seat.

Speaker 1 she can't get a better seat. Athletic.
Yeah. Fair point, fire back.

Speaker 1 Yeah, fire back.

Speaker 9 If you're that close, you can feel them. Like, she can probably feel it.

Speaker 10 But the bathroom did smell. Like, the bathroom,

Speaker 10 there could have been

Speaker 10 other

Speaker 10 smells that were contributing to this.

Speaker 10 Everyone knows if you sit next to the bathroom on an airport, like, you're fucked.

Speaker 1 Like, we were directly next to it. True.

Speaker 10 Like, it was... Like, there was no aisle to the left of us.

Speaker 9 It was just bathroom.

Speaker 4 Max is doing the Fauci right now. It's like, what if this crazy new type of disease that emanated from Wuhan wasn't actually from the lab, but it was from, it was from me.

Speaker 9 No, I don't, I don't.

Speaker 10 The farting, I don't.

Speaker 1 It does make sense. Let me spell your sweat pants.
All right, so Max.

Speaker 10 The farting does make sense.

Speaker 10 But I do think

Speaker 10 sitting next to the bathroom definitely

Speaker 10 contributed to the bad smell.

Speaker 4 Did you think about getting up to go use the bathroom to fart in the bathroom?

Speaker 6 I've done that.

Speaker 1 Not even once.

Speaker 10 I didn't even know that I had to.

Speaker 1 You didn't have to fart. He farted in his sleep.

Speaker 1 He woke up to the bottom of the bush.

Speaker 10 To my knowledge, I didn't have to fart.

Speaker 1 I didn't have to shit.

Speaker 10 I didn't get up to piss or anything.

Speaker 1 Nothing's proven.

Speaker 14 It also could.

Speaker 4 Maybe.

Speaker 4 Maybe she was farting and she's looking for someone to pin it on and she's got mad.

Speaker 1 He ate a burrito before getting on a five-hour flight. He farted.
Look at him. That's a fart.
He's a walking fart.

Speaker 4 I kind of want to take Max's side of this and think maybe she had a very unhealthy breakfast. No.

Speaker 1 She was not.

Speaker 4 She was farting. I am not the the

Speaker 4 farting. She saw the best scapegoat of all time.
Like, this guy's fat. I'm going to read him.

Speaker 1 I'm going to pin it all on Max.

Speaker 8 And if someone goes, like, to Max's point, if someone goes, takes a huge shit in the bathroom and it opens, she's like, oh, this fat guy next to me is farting.

Speaker 1 Yes. Especially if you've got a fat guy next to you farting.
He's very

Speaker 8 easy person to pin something like that on.

Speaker 1 All right, Max. Well, you're dismissed for now.

Speaker 4 She did, it did feel a little mean at times.

Speaker 10 I mean, yeah,

Speaker 4 Italians, you guys don't look after each other anymore. Husband.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 1 The fact that.

Speaker 1 She was.

Speaker 1 Look at his pants. He, when he gets up, she also said

Speaker 4 he was having, she was having very important text conversations regarding the Eagles, and Max very easily fart seen all the information.

Speaker 1 I think you could see a fart coming out of there right now.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Anything else in the sports world that we got to do? We got to hit before we get to who's back?

Speaker 4 I always love big episodes that we have with big interviews, and then we just go completely off the rails, and first time listeners have to listen to Max's fart escapade.

Speaker 1 Like, listen, he doesn't fart that often, guys. I love Max.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 I'm very glad that Max flew through.

Speaker 10 I had one good day on this show. I had one day on Friday of people.

Speaker 10 Oh, yeah, because the baseball video, you know, the baseball video, people were finally giving me compliments, and now it's just tomorrow's just.

Speaker 1 You shouldn't have told us that we hope we have a really safe fight. That's really the moral of this show.

Speaker 8 That's just honestly terrible luck.

Speaker 14 I feel people shouldn't, like,

Speaker 1 you can't

Speaker 8 script getting sat next to a little reporter that's a friend of the program. I know.

Speaker 4 It's tough.

Speaker 8 But also, maybe you should have recognized her and not farted.

Speaker 1 You know, a little more formal.

Speaker 4 Maybe you could have said hi.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Hello.
Hey, just so you know, I'm going to, I'm going to.

Speaker 10 You literally just said, he's like, that's my nightmare.

Speaker 14 Like, but if I was sat next to her, I'd be like, what's up, Diana?

Speaker 1 By the way, I would have been like,

Speaker 14 I just had to eat this burrito.

Speaker 9 I'm really sorry. Whatever happens.

Speaker 1 I'm going to be farting.

Speaker 8 There's sometimes where I sit next to people, I'm like, whatever happens, like, I apologize if I talk in my sleep because sometimes I talk in my sleep.

Speaker 14 So you can get ahead of it. Yeah.

Speaker 8 And at least then, if she was texting PFT, then she's just kind of a scumbag.

Speaker 1 But you should have,

Speaker 1 with one hand on the burrito, the other hand, you shake her hand. You're like, listen, this is going to be a fart factory in a minute.
Sorry about that. Pat Coke, please.
I need another one?

Speaker 4 I would have simply paid for her upgrade to first class. So she didn't have to sit next to me.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 It's tough. Or complaint and be like, oh, I can't believe we're sitting next to the bathroom.
It already smells.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah, yeah. Put that in her.
Yep. It's not a small thing.

Speaker 1 That's just a fact.

Speaker 10 The bathroom did smell. No, Hank.

Speaker 1 It still kills him, though.

Speaker 4 Like, literally, gaslight.

Speaker 4 Be like, oh, it smells so bad after that guy walked out of the bathroom, doesn't it?

Speaker 1 The burrito is the game changer. But you have a burrito.
If she didn't see you have a burrito, you would be able to get out of all this, but you're in jail. You're in fart jail.

Speaker 10 Yeah, yeah. It was pan.
But it was panic. It was like, I got to make this flight.

Speaker 1 I got to eat something.

Speaker 10 It was, you know, I mean, Hank, you know, like, getting to the airport

Speaker 10 and you got like 10 minutes until... I didn't even have, I had like five minutes until boarding and I needed the...

Speaker 10 Hank, what?

Speaker 1 You gotta eat. I'm telling you.

Speaker 14 I've done this probably hundreds of times.

Speaker 8 Again, it's just not sitting next to a reporter that's a friend of the person.

Speaker 1 Like, what the fuck? How are the chances?

Speaker 8 I've said many times there's people out there that have like texted about me and like the person next to me on this flight. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Because I talk in my sleep and I fall asleep on every flight.

Speaker 14 And so I wake up and I'm like,

Speaker 8 fuck.

Speaker 6 What was I saying in my sleep?

Speaker 9 This was actually. You're not going to tell me.

Speaker 8 and we're gonna go on our separate ways.

Speaker 4 This is probably the worst person for you to be sat next to today.

Speaker 1 Literally.

Speaker 4 In the entire world, like out of 7 billion people.

Speaker 4 It's fate.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Let's do who's back of the week, and then we'll talk to Max and Memes at the end for the Grammys.
Who's Back of the Week?

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Speaker 8 My who's back of the week is Shane Gillis.

Speaker 1 Ah, that was mine as well.

Speaker 8 Fellow stand-up comedian.

Speaker 8 He will be...

Speaker 1 Both at the top of your game.

Speaker 8 He is going. He got

Speaker 8 announced to the SNL cast, I believe it was five years ago. He got fired from SNL five days later.
And now he has, you know, risen to the top, become more and and more famous, more and more popular.

Speaker 8 Now he's been asked to come back and host SNL this Saturday.

Speaker 4 It's the best. It's awesome.
And it reminds me of when Norm McDonald got fired from SNL back in the day. And then a year later, they hired him to come back and host the show.

Speaker 4 He had the best opening joke in his monologue ever. He said, well, 12 months ago, I was so funny that I wasn't even allowed in the building.
And now they want me to host the show.

Speaker 4 So either I got way funnier in the past year, or now the show just sucks, which is like the perfect way to roast him. I hope Gillis does something like that.

Speaker 1 I'm sure that he will. He is.
He is. So Shane is a friend of the program.
We're going to have him on. We've almost had him on like seven times, but our scheduling has been screwed up.

Speaker 1 We actually might try to get him on this week. If not, he's coming to Chicago in a couple weeks.

Speaker 1 He has, though, a little bit of an issue at hand because we oftentimes make bets that we then, you know, like, well, I guess I've never had to cut off my pinky, but someday I might have to.

Speaker 1 Shane did say a few years ago that if he ever hosts SNL, he's just going to Bud Dwyer on his monologue. Yes.
You don't know who Bud Dwyer is?

Speaker 1 It's a politician who shot himself in the head, in the mouth, and committed suicide live on TV. So he said that he was going to do

Speaker 1 live from New York, This Gun in My Mouth. And then, so now he, people are like, are you going to do it? It would rule.
I don't want him to die. No, I don't want to die.
But it would also rule.

Speaker 4 Maybe some great special effects. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Put that in a place. Either way, it's like the ultimate win.
Like, SNL has completely cratered and bottomed out. The, the, like,

Speaker 1 the crazy cancel, like, mob went after him in this one little piece of time. And flash forward five years, and he is the most famous, the best comedian going right now.

Speaker 1 And they're like, you know what could save our show? Shane Gillis.

Speaker 4 I want to know why he agreed to do it because I'm sure he has a reason. I'm sure he has something planned for it.
But if I were him, I would be like, fuck you guys.

Speaker 1 But he can now say fuck you guys on their show. Which would be great.
Yeah, which is going to be great. So awesome.

Speaker 8 for him 21 savage i don't know if you guys saw this last yes he was on a uh aiden ross's stream and got basically got caught cheating like he was cutting cards they were doing a card game him and like one of the guys in his crew basically you know marked cards so that they could cheat it was on a live stream with a hundred thousand people watching so everyone in the chat was just like he's cheating like he's clearly cheating the chat caught it in real time they went through in real time we're like dude these these cars are cut it was like super awkward super viral but now he's going to be on it too.

Speaker 8 So it's like, it's going to, it's ripe for jokes. It's going to be probably, I mean, it's going to be one of the biggest SNLs.

Speaker 1 It's going to be the most watched. I'm going to watch it.
Yeah. I haven't watched SNL in years.

Speaker 8 It's going to be a funny stand-up show,

Speaker 8 unfunny stand-up show Tuesday. Finally here, Coors Light.
Gonna be drinking a lot of Coors Light on Tuesday.

Speaker 1 And you can buy a pay-per-view to watch it. $4.99.
You don't have to.

Speaker 9 But you should.

Speaker 4 You should. You shouldn't.
Because honestly, Hank was so, so good on Wednesday that he's going to crush this, and you guys are going to want to see it. So make sure to buy.

Speaker 8 And I've seen a lot of people being like, this is bullshit. You're charging $4.99 for this.
And I agree.

Speaker 6 I agree.

Speaker 8 Fuck that.

Speaker 6 Like, it's bullshit. You were so good.

Speaker 4 Well, here's what I'll say.

Speaker 8 You shouldn't pay, like, chart us charging you, you know.

Speaker 4 They should get you to host SNL. You were so funny.

Speaker 1 If we hit a certain amount of pay-per-views, I've decided that I'm going to give Hank a certain amount of money to play Blackjack with in Vegas, and maybe we'll make a video out of it.

Speaker 1 So, or you just not buy, but that's or you could buy it, and Hank could play some blackjack, high-stakes blackjack,

Speaker 1 or you could just not buy it. Or you could just buy it

Speaker 1 Tuesday, Tuesday.

Speaker 8 I think 7 Vegas, 10 Eastern.

Speaker 1 I think we're going to smash a watermelon.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because Hank called PFT and I today.

Speaker 4 FaceTime audio to us, which, by the way, in the history of the podcast, I don't think we've ever

Speaker 1 done a three-way FaceTime call. I was in the middle of packing, like panicking, trying to get out.
And Hank called us and was like, I'm thinking, I was packing and I'm thinking

Speaker 1 this guitar

Speaker 1 thing we were going to do.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't really know the song that well, so maybe we'll do something else.

Speaker 1 pfc i texted right after hank just was packing and was like i don't want to carry a guitar and so he tried to like call us and say you know i have this great idea where it doesn't involve a guitar you were in the middle of packing i'm still getting a guitar no i'm still playing guitar no but the whole thing was like you texted us to be like i don't really want to pack this guitar so i'm going to call the guys and be like hey what if i just didn't bring the guitar yeah well no that's why i got off the phone as fast i was like whatever dude i don't care you clearly don't want to bring this guitar you guys are involved i wanted to get your approval I didn't want you to come and be like, wait a second, what about what we were supposed to originally playing?

Speaker 8 So I was just confirming because I'm, you know, diligent.

Speaker 1 You were just trying to find an excuse to be like, I don't want to bring this guitar.

Speaker 8 Why? The real issue is that I was going to have to Uber to PFTs and then get the guitar case and then go to the airport.

Speaker 1 No, it's very clear you didn't want to do the guitar. I'm playing guitar.

Speaker 8 I'm buying a guitar in Vegas.

Speaker 6 There's still a guitar, which might get smashed.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 All right, PFT, your who's back.

Speaker 4 My who's back of the week is drug use.

Speaker 4 Performance-enhancing drug use. There's a new Olympics coming out.

Speaker 4 I don't know if you guys have seen the news about this, but it's an all-steroids Olympics. I love it.
That's going to happen. It's called the Enhanced Games, right?

Speaker 4 And it's being developed by Christian Angermeyer.

Speaker 4 These are all like private equity guys that are doing this.

Speaker 4 And Peter Thiel, the guy from PayPal.

Speaker 4 And they said, just as the Olympic Games were revived and renovated in 1896 for the Victorian world, the Enhanced Games is once again renovating the Olympic model for the 21st century.

Speaker 4 In the era of accelerating technological and scientific change, the world needs a sporting event that embraces the future, particularly advances in medical science.

Speaker 4 And therefore, they're starting the Olympic Games where every contestant is going to be allowed to dope, which means we're going to get all kinds of crazy records.

Speaker 4 We're going to have a bunch of freaks running around out there. The Russians will probably dominate.
It's going to be awesome. Tristan Thompson will be allowed to play basketball.

Speaker 1 This is going to be awesome. They have to have a home run derby.
Oh, got to do a home run. They have to have a home run derby.

Speaker 4 Home run derby will be important.

Speaker 4 And the guy that they used to make the announcement uh is a 100 meter sprinter and he has a time that's faster than you saying bolts but he's like but they wouldn't count he acted like he got canceled for using peds yeah which is very funny um but yeah we're gonna see some crazy fucking time i love it it's gonna be fantastic that sounds way better than the regular olympics i'm gonna watch hard yeah i got billion Yeah, we got billion.

Speaker 1 Okay, my who's back of the week is college basketball in general. We had a great weekend of college basketball.
Tony, awesome games. Everybody lost.

Speaker 4 Duke sucks.

Speaker 1 But in specific, Robbie Avila from Indiana State. Indiana State's really good.
So I noticed this guy probably three or four weeks ago. He's a big dude.
Maybe not the most cut up guy in the world, but

Speaker 1 he's good.

Speaker 14 He's very good at basketball.

Speaker 1 And he's got rec specs. And he is, if Indiana State

Speaker 1 gets to the tournament, which they are the best team in the Missouri Valley right now.

Speaker 1 We could have like a this guy could like capture the hearts of America.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah, he's next. He's next up up for sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm hoping. I actually, I got, I mean, I love college basketball all year round, but I went to UIC versus Southern Illinois with my son on Saturday, so I was just hoops all day.

Speaker 4 I saw one person, I forget who it was, so I'm sorry if I'm not giving you credit on Twitter. They said that guy's nickname is now Larry Blurd because he's got like the foggy goggles.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think Matt Jones also said that people were calling him Cream Abdul Jabbar. Oh, I love that.
That one's good, too. Cream Abdul Jabbar.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 So Robbie Avila is going to be, he's going to capture the hearts of America. We need Indiana State to get to the tournament.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Do you know that Indiana State, Indiana doesn't play Indiana State because they just embarrassed him every time they play him? I did not know that.

Speaker 1 Indiana State, I think last time they played him was like 2017 and they won by like 20. Damn.
So Indiana is just scared of them.

Speaker 4 The old school Indiana State jerseys are so fire too. The light blue ones.
Yes. Those are some of the best uniforms.
Sycamores.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So, and Indiana basketball is in a bad spot right now.

Speaker 1 I mean, I will admit that a lot of the Indiana basketball discourse that I get is through Dan Dock's Twitter, and he's just having a constant meltdown about it, and it's fun to watch.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I would say Dan Dokich is one of my big sources. The other big source I have is Big T, so I get a heavy dose of Tennessee propaganda all the time.
Dalton Connect is fucking awesome.

Speaker 4 And Ziegler, I've liked Ziegler for the last two years because he's a short king like myself. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I like the volunteers. Volunteers and Cougars.
Those are my two teams.

Speaker 1 I mean, UConn keeps winning. They just went down stores south, dominated at MSG.
It was a great weekend of college basketball. Villanova got another big win.
And Purdue beat Wisconsin.

Speaker 1 I'll admit that Purdue's very good. Zach Edie's just too tall.

Speaker 1 I go back and forth because college basketball to me is a lot of like hating guys year over year. It obviously has changed in the past like 15 years.

Speaker 1 So I hate Zach Eady, but I also respect the fact that he's been around long enough that I've gotten my hate up to such a great level. Yeah.
Yeah, it is. And it's like, it's nice.
It is nice.

Speaker 1 And I just keep like banging my fist being like, this fucking guy is too tall.

Speaker 4 Yeah, like having 39-year-olds such as ourselves developing these intense rivalries with 18, 19, 19 year olds.

Speaker 1 Zach Edie's like 28.

Speaker 4 He's pretty old.

Speaker 4 He's so big. And when he moves,

Speaker 4 I always say it does look like there's somebody inside of him controlling his limbs with levers. Yeah.
Like a big brain inside of his chest being like, okay, move your right hand now.

Speaker 4 Move your left hand now.

Speaker 1 Also, Baylor,

Speaker 1 whoever made their new arena, which looks sick. I don't know how they fucked up the camera angle.

Speaker 1 It's basically the nosebleeds. I've never seen it.
Like, I just don't understand how they could do that. They made a new arena and they just forgot that they have to televise it.

Speaker 4 Make it easy on TV. Vandi's like that, too.
Vandi's a weird arena.

Speaker 1 Washington as well.

Speaker 1 Okay, should we do it? Should we get to Jameis? Is it time?

Speaker 1 I'm going to say it's one of the best interviews we've ever had because Jameis is that electric of a person. Before we do that, PFT, why don't you tell us who we're brought to you by?

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Speaker 4 Now, here's Jameis Winston.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. It's been a long time coming.
It is Heisman Trophy winner, national champion, Pro Bowler, and also just one of the best teammates ever.

Speaker 1 That's our guess, but I think we'll find that through this interview. It's Jameis Winston.
Jameis, thank you for coming here. We appreciate it.
You flew to Chicago to come on this show.

Speaker 1 So first of all, thank you because we've wanted to have you on for a very long time, and this is a thrill for us to have you in studio. No, I'm grateful to be in y'all's presence.

Speaker 1 I mean, I've heard the very first time I heard about Parmontate was Ryan Griffin, who was a quarterback with me in Tampa.

Speaker 1 And he always told me, like, hey, like, hey, Dan loves you, like, P of T, like, they're all pulling for you. So I'm just grateful to be here in this beautiful studio, man.

Speaker 1 And I just got so much respect for what y'all doing and the audience that you're inspiring and influencing. So it's an honor.
I love it. I love it.

Speaker 1 And also, just for people who are listening, if we don't know what the Super Bowl is yet, because we're taping this in mid to late January, we're going to run it Super Bowl week. So if we make a

Speaker 1 statement about one of the teams, then it's like, what are you guys talking about? That's the context behind it. But yes, thank you for being here.

Speaker 1 I don't even know where, I mean, there's so much stuff I want to talk about.

Speaker 4 There's a lot.

Speaker 4 Just like, how are you feeling right now? How's the health? I know that you had the vertebrae issues. You had some tendons going on.
So how are you you doing?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm healing. And I think that's like one of the biggest things that me and Nadia talk about this offseason because it's been three years in a row where I've been injured.
You know, I've been not

Speaker 1 where I want to be heading to the offseason. So,

Speaker 1 a lot of other people like PTs and athletic trainers, they

Speaker 1 have most of my schedule because I'm doing rehab. I'm doing,

Speaker 1 I have to be at this location for an extended period of time time just to really make, do the due diligence of the process of healing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I'm very excited and grateful that I get to attack this offseason healthier and be able to grow. Yeah, you were playing with back fracture at one point.
Yeah. That's incredible.

Speaker 1 Was there even a doubt that you were like, I'm still playing? Like, I got to get out there with my guys? Well, I believe it's always

Speaker 1 that warrior mentality.

Speaker 1 Like once you get in between the lines, I think a lot of players deal with so much that it's it's just um it's second nature just to go out there and battle and go out there and give you all because we all know that these opportunities don't last right so i would rather risk everything for my brothers and be out there and take advantage of the opportunity that i have than to be just you know not doing it just because of a little pain.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And I think that's just a credit to really all the athletic trainers and the doctors that help get you back on the field.

Speaker 1 But it's also a credit to the mental toughness that these guys have day in and day out. Well, that's, I mean, our theory is you're one of the best teammates from everyone we've talked to.

Speaker 1 Obviously, the end of the season, you know, made some headlines with the last game in Jamal Williams. Did it feel good, though, seeing all your teammates come to your back?

Speaker 1 Because it was like tweet after tweet and people commenting being like, we ride for Jameis. Like, this was a team decision.
We love our guy. It had to feel pretty good, like, seeing that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know, it was, I was grateful that my boys, they rode with me, but like they see me every single day.

Speaker 1 They know the intent of my heart, you know, and I went in, approached, you know, some of the higher-ups in the organization just to get their perspective and talk to them about it.

Speaker 1 And, you know, they really handled it really well, you know, having conversations with them because, again, they know my intent.

Speaker 1 You know, they see me working with the practice squad receivers on off days, you know, to ensure that they're going to be prepared if their numbers call.

Speaker 1 They see me working with the young DBs, you know, making sure that they know how the quarterbacks on the other other team or the offensive coordinator is trying to attack them in certain situations so i think they know the intent of my heart so when you are in a building with guys and you are uh battling with them and you go through a full season with guys when you have an opportunity like that i feel like that was one of the most unique opportunities that really the nfl has ever seen yeah when when you get uh ball at the one the the ball at the one yard line with the significance of your team and a brother that you uh are looking for and that's just what i am i'm all in on increasing the people that's around me.

Speaker 1 So when we have that opportunity, it's never out of

Speaker 1 disrespect. It's never out of strife.
It's out of like, man, this is love. It's a trust and commitment that I have with my brothers.

Speaker 1 And I'm so grateful that we were able to just continue to show how connected we were as a team through any type of adversity because

Speaker 1 we wanted to focus on the win.

Speaker 1 That was a great win to finish the season because we were playing for a lot.

Speaker 1 That was was a playoff game right in our eyes because i we didn't know what our what our future you know held after that yeah and credit to you by the way for for that reporter who you you handled that well when you're like no disrespect you guys you guys gotten a little no disrespect off because he kept on being like i thought it was disrespectful it's like well yeah i didn't well you always you gotta you gotta respect you know people's perspective like that's just how i was raised like i'm gonna respect any perspective that you coming off from but i know like i know what my intent was and i think like sometimes we are so conditioned uh really conditioned by facts circumstances and situations that we're like it's out of tradition for that to happen it's out of tradition for you to uh run a play out of victory and i do believe like that was the biggest uh

Speaker 1 that was that was probably the largest thing about us running a play out of victory and i think the it's it's behind us but i believe like if i would do anything i would tell the guys like hey um

Speaker 1 i probably wouldn't do it out of victory yeah line up regularly yeah line up regularly but but the thing about the play is we in there having a conversation in the huddle and the defense knew right like i i my right guard like they asked us are you taking the knee my right guard sees he's like no we're not taking the knee like they knew like so they were prepared it wasn't just like okay they're not even getting in their stances uh but at the end of the day um i'm a I'm a forward thinker and we have to put that behind us and keep going.

Speaker 1 But I'm grateful that I got a chance to address that, man because

Speaker 1 not a lot of people understand,

Speaker 1 again, the longevity of a season, the work that it goes into, especially when you got a guy that led the league in touchdowns, 17 touchdowns last year with one team.

Speaker 1 And his first year, he's making a, you know, a change in his life. This is his first time, you know, being able to get in the end zone.
So that feeling of, again, trust and commitment.

Speaker 1 as brothers was amazing.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it was great to watch. And yeah, as Big Cat said, your teammates all had your back afterwards.
They were like, it was a team decision. We did it for the right reasons.

Speaker 4 And I think when people ask you about it, they try to make you feel bad about the decision.

Speaker 4 But I know that you did it because the things you asked Jamal Williams to do this year that he's not used to doing. And he did it as a good teammate.
I think, yeah, you said it best.

Speaker 4 There was a video that went viral the other day. You said, King the Man, right? And so that's what you're doing.
You're trying to help out your teammates.

Speaker 4 So you're looking forward, and you got a big offseason in front of you. I know that you love New Orleans.

Speaker 4 You've become like a New Orleans guy.

Speaker 4 Are you planning on staying in New Orleans? Are you planning on spreading your wings, going somewhere else, seeing what the market has to offer you?

Speaker 1 Yeah, the biggest thing about my love for New Orleans is

Speaker 1 this is, I feel like, the first city that truly embraced me, you know, just my just who I am, what I stand for, how I move. And I think it's just like the South, like that Southern hospitality.

Speaker 1 You know, I'm from Alabama, so grew up watching Drew Brees, you know, grew up watching Aaron Brooks, you know, the early years of the Saints and just saw how they grew.

Speaker 1 So when I was able to get thrown into this environment, I was just like, man, I had so much gratitude to be here because I am five hours from home.

Speaker 1 You know, my wife's side, her dad's side of the family is from New Orleans.

Speaker 1 So I instantly felt a connection with this city and the way that they represent, you know, their guys, you know, the way that they bring. culture.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's a different country. New Orleans, you go to New Orleans, it's a different country.
It's the coolest thing in the world because it's unlike any other place in America. It really is.

Speaker 1 We were talking about Bourbon Street earlier.

Speaker 1 You're like, man, where am I at? Yeah.

Speaker 1 But in terms of this offseason,

Speaker 1 I feel like I've played every role. that a quarterback can play with the New Orleans Saints.

Speaker 1 I've been a starter.

Speaker 1 I've been a backup.

Speaker 1 I've been someone to help bring up some of the young Bucks.

Speaker 1 I'm very intentional with everything that I do.

Speaker 1 so wherever i'm at obviously my main goal is to be a strong quarterback in this league you know and when that opportunity presents itself that will be what takes me away from any place because that's my dream that's my goal my my dream and my passion is to win a super bowl lead a team to the super bowl in any way any shape or form so i'm definitely uh able to do those things you know from a behind the scenes perspective but i think just the

Speaker 1 the hunger of a competitor wants to be out there in between those lines, wants to be out there having the opportunity and doing his best to lead his team to the promised land.

Speaker 1 The Bible talks about Moses and Aaron, how Aaron was a great

Speaker 1 brother for Moses.

Speaker 1 Moses is who gets the stories in the Bible. Starting quarterback.

Speaker 1 He is the prophet

Speaker 1 that they listen to. Aaron was a great help.

Speaker 1 And he lived according to his purpose. But

Speaker 1 I want to be, you know, I want to have that level of significance. Yeah.
You know, and everyone has their own story. Everyone has their own calling of purpose.
But it's different when you're that guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You know, if you're not.
Moses was him. Yeah.

Speaker 4 If you have two Moseses, you don't have one. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Moses was that dude. Right.
Yeah. Yeah.
That's one of one.

Speaker 1 All right. So a story that maybe gets misconstrued, so I want to hear it from you.

Speaker 1 Before you got LASIC, were you playing quarterback blind?

Speaker 1 Because that was when it was, when it came out that you got LASIK and you're like, now I can read license plates and now I can do all this.

Speaker 1 Hold on. Was Jameis actually the greatest quarterback ever? Because he couldn't see and he was still putting up crazy numbers? Yeah, well, I had astigmatism, right? But my vision wasn't,

Speaker 1 I wasn't blind. You know, I was like, I was like, I think I was like 60-20 in my right eye and I was like, what, 40, 40, 20 in my left eye.
So I wasn't blind. Right.

Speaker 1 And that's why, like, in college, everybody used to give me for the squinty. Yeah, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 But I was squinting all the way in high school. You know, and this was like my sophomore year where I had to go and get a prescription for reading glasses.

Speaker 1 You know, my vision, my vision went bad, but I was having these migraines and pinkas was going on.

Speaker 1 And, you know, we went to the doctor, and they was like, well, you know, it's because you're straining with your eyes. I was like, what do you mean?

Speaker 1 I'm straining my eyes, you know, because I could see very far away. But when things got up close, like it was, it was tough.

Speaker 1 So reading reading and like studying, like I would get migraines and it would be very bad.

Speaker 1 So I think that's where when I got to the Bucks, I was like, I was coming on my fifth year option and I was like, man, if I can do anything to enhance my ability or grow just a little bit, if having perfect vision is the thing that's limiting me from that, I'm going to go get basic.

Speaker 1 And then I did the research about, you know, how I last for like 25 years and you just got to go and keep getting.

Speaker 1 I was like, 25 years, like my inner fair career, I'll probably be you know a gm by then you know so this like this is worth it yeah did you could you notice the difference right away instantly yeah like man like when i was up under the the thing like it was kind of it's kind of weird because you know i thought i i i didn't feel it but i can smell my eyeball burning oh geez you know what i'm saying like like they did they did it with a laser like i yeah i could smell like no one has ever smelt burnt eyeballs you know what i'm saying so like you can only you can only imagine like that that type of you know smell that is So when I smelled it, when I got up, the doctor,

Speaker 1 anytime you wake up and the doctor is smiling,

Speaker 1 and he has his mask on, but I can see a smile.

Speaker 1 He's like, I've done this amazing work.

Speaker 1 I can see clearly now the rain is gone.

Speaker 1 I was just like, this is amazing.

Speaker 1 It cured Jameis Winston's eyes.

Speaker 1 The funny part. Yeah.
The funny part is like I had to wear PFT shades

Speaker 1 for the first six weeks.

Speaker 1 Really, first three days.

Speaker 1 I had these bifocals on.

Speaker 4 The old people's glasses. Yeah.
The blind people's glasses.

Speaker 4 It's always good to see a doctor celebrating after a surgery. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You're like, okay, that's like that's that's confidence. Yeah, that went well.
Yeah. That's world class.
I know the job was done. Well, yeah.

Speaker 4 The first time you stepped on the field after the surgery, were you like, this is a lot easier?

Speaker 1 Well, the depth perception was the biggest thing.

Speaker 1 You know, I didn't even realize, like, because my whole thing, like, I can see, obviously, I can see big figures coming at me and reading coverage and just seeing how.

Speaker 1 how, and that's more mental with pre-snap reads and just seeing the rotation and things of that nature.

Speaker 1 But I just feel like the depth of a linebacker, like eight yards and 12 yards, is completely different.

Speaker 1 You know, and when you're able to identify and confirm that someone is dropping at a shorter depth than really sinking back, you're able to trust that throw and confirm it and let it rip versus when you're just dropping back and you're just like, I feel the rotation.

Speaker 1 I feel the depth, like, but I trust in my arm more than I trust in and can confirm the depth of a linebacker dropping or the width that a safety is getting. Now it's just like,

Speaker 1 it's no second guessing.

Speaker 1 It's no,

Speaker 1 it's no, like I said, no second guessing. It's just trust and confirm and later rip.
Yeah. So that was the biggest improvement.

Speaker 4 When you played for Coach Arians, we've had him on the show a couple of times. Great dude.
I think he might be the one person in the world that loves the deep ball as much as you do.

Speaker 4 You guys both just love to air the ball out. What was that like learning from him?

Speaker 4 Because he's been called quarterback whisperer, but also his offense is is weird where in your first year in a system with him a lot of times there's so many options that the receivers have that it takes a little bit to get on the same page but what was it like working with with coach arians yeah it was a uh

Speaker 1 it was an amazing experience working with him because he was actually the first person that gave me this vision of being a super bowl winning champion quarterback um he used to have these uh these camps in Birmingham, Alabama, uh, that Nadia's husband, Otis, my trainer right now, Otis Leverett, used to put on at this place called Sports Blast.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I went there two years in a row and I wanted MVP, you know, and he would show me his ring and he would let me know, like, hey, you're going to be a great quarterback in the NFL one day.

Speaker 1 And I was like, hey, coach, I appreciate you. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Like, you a freaking officer coordinator for at that time, Mr. Pittsburgh Sillers

Speaker 1 that he wanted with. And I was like, man, I'm grateful, grateful for that.
So when he got into Tampa, I was like, okay, this is it. Like, this is who I've been,

Speaker 1 I've been molded to play for. You know what I'm saying? He's the one that gave me this vision.
So I just think his perspective of

Speaker 1 really just making the defense stop you. Like not

Speaker 1 surrendering to what you're getting, but like, hey, we're going to attack you. Like, because that's what the defense does.

Speaker 1 Well, the defense are reactors, but when they blitz, that's a form of attacking. Right.
You know what I'm saying? So his philosophy is like, we're going to make the defense have to stop us.

Speaker 1 We're not going to focus on what they're doing and make our offense built off what they're doing. But I really spent a lot of time with Clyde Christensen and Byron Lefwich.

Speaker 1 So I feel like BA was in that role where, you know, he's bringing the mentality, he's bringing the system. But man, Byron, he really, he really did his thing

Speaker 1 in terms of just calling plays, in terms of like he was the coordinator running meetings. Like, so being able to not only get coached by someone that was,

Speaker 1 who I, who I had on a high pillar, you know, that inspired me, but seeing

Speaker 1 a quarterback who's played in this league, who was coached by BA, you know what I'm saying, who I admire, like you, everyone, when you think about Byron Leffers, you think about the courageous drive he had

Speaker 1 in Marshall with a broke leg.

Speaker 1 So it was, you play for bigger,

Speaker 1 like you can never play bigger than yourself.

Speaker 1 But with emotions and mentality, you always have like you're looking for a certain edge. Like, why do I want to fight for this guy? I'm going to fight for Byron because Byron played this position.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Byron has been in my shoes.
You know what I'm saying? Like he knows exactly how I feel. You know, why do you want to fight for BA? I want to fight for BA because BA inspired me to do this job.

Speaker 1 He confirmed that I could have this opportunity.

Speaker 1 And I can't forget Clyde Christensen. And people don't realize about Clyde Christensen.
I feel like that was my best

Speaker 1 technique year. You know, it was an amazing year.
You know, I led the league in passing yards and I led the league in, well, I was second to the MVP in touchdowns.

Speaker 1 MVP was Mar Jackson that year. But Clyde Christensen, who trained Payne Manning for all those years at Indy.
Tom Moore, who was the office coordinator with Payne Manning.

Speaker 1 So the level of gratitude that I just had, who BA brought in, you know, you see what I love, they won a Super Bowl, is because BA brought in that culture and he was preparing the Bucs to ascend.

Speaker 1 You know, obviously

Speaker 1 he has a larger role in Tampa Bay.

Speaker 1 But just the people that he surrounds his player with, I was just thinking about the doctors that he brought in, you know, the recovery mechanism that he brought in, the strength coach Anthony Piroli that he brought in.

Speaker 1 Like, he,

Speaker 1 him being coming from Pittsburgh and seeing Indianapolis, like, he brought that Super Bowl-winning culture back to Tampa Bay. Yeah, I was grateful to wear him.

Speaker 4 When you got a guy that believes in you, that has that type of pedigree, then you want to live up to his expectations, right? It's like, since you said it, I don't want to disappoint you.

Speaker 4 So I'm going to do everything I can because now you've made me believe in myself and I want you to be right about me, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 And I think that works both ways,

Speaker 1 especially when like I've been doing a lot of stuff just on mindfulness of learning to be more self-aware and understanding how to convey my emotions.

Speaker 1 And I believe like initially when I first got into this league, I was a people pleaser, you know, just because like, man,

Speaker 1 my dad coached me in Lil League. you know, so just my early years of

Speaker 1 being a football player, you know, I wanted to please my dad. Right.
You know what I'm saying? I want to make sure every coach that I've had in my whole life,

Speaker 1 I view from a lens of my father, you know, because I respect my authority. You know,

Speaker 1 every time I say that, you know, I think about software. South Partner.
Yeah, yeah. Respect the authority.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 But anyways, like, so that's just how I was. I was wired.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, so when you are in an opportunity where, you know, you got an authoritative figure that you trust, that instills that trust in you. And you're a person that's a people pleaser.

Speaker 1 You're going to do everything that they say to a team. So when you run a meeting and someone says, risk it, no biscuit.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? You're like, okay. Yeah.
You better risk it. And sometimes the biscuit, you know, kind of gets this away from you.
But it was,

Speaker 1 I think, like you said, PFT, when you have people that believe in you, and I think that's what I'm looking for, you know.

Speaker 1 with a job opportunity. Yeah.
You know, someone that believes, you know, that I can lead their team to a Super Bowl. And obviously, that comes with actions.
Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 That's why this offseason is so important.

Speaker 1 That's why I take pride of being a great teammate because when you're able to act upon what you want to achieve, that's how you truly obtain success. Yeah.
So you mentioned baseball.

Speaker 1 I wanted to talk baseball real quick. You were a great baseball player.
You loved playing baseball, I assume, because you played it in college as well.

Speaker 1 Do you think you could have played in major leagues? Like, you were, what were you throwing? I do.

Speaker 1 so at the end of florida state i was topping out at 98 but i i said like i said 92 yeah 95 and uh man i i missed baseball so much and uh and

Speaker 1 i i truly believe that

Speaker 1 me not playing baseball

Speaker 1 did not allow me to achieve certain athletic movements on the football field that I was when I was playing baseball every single day,

Speaker 1 really from a hidden perspective.

Speaker 1 I didn't realize how much um

Speaker 1 thoracic like lumbar rotation that i was uh not able to um be as powerful in because i was a switch hitter right you know so when you in the cages and you batting from the right side taking you know up to 500 cuts you know on the right side and then 500 cuts on the left side you know when you're doing that like think about your thoracic rotation yeah you know what i'm saying like you're moving a lot and you look at the the the i would say the most prolific quarterbacks in the league now they have different arm slots yeah they have an uncannily ability to throw in different situations with their body being contort from a different different different way that from a different plane so i feel like that i have to focus more on you know doing t-spine rotations and practicing yoga just a little bit more to get that rotation but it's it's different when you have a a different sport yeah that's allowing you to to do those movements yeah it's like it's a hot topic now too with like kids and specialization and and it feels like most people who make it to the pros are like, no, let the kids play all the sports.

Speaker 1 It will teach them something that they'll pick up for whatever sport they want to go forward with.

Speaker 1 Because just focusing on one sport, you're taking away all these different skills that they might learn in baseball or whatever. So do you think you would have played in the big league?

Speaker 1 I do believe that I would have made it to the to the show.

Speaker 1 Do you think you could maybe still? Maybe second act? Double Dion?

Speaker 1 You're like, Dion?

Speaker 1 Listen, I promise you, I believe in myself. Yeah.
You know, any time of the day, but you out of respect for the people that still put in the work

Speaker 1 to make it to the show, baseball is one of the most failing sports there is. Yeah.
You know, out there. You know, obviously, you know, golf is very defeating.
Yes. At times

Speaker 1 if you don't practice. Yeah.
Baseball is the scenarios that you're put in, I feel like, especially when you talk about kids specializing on certain things. It teaches you different disciplines.

Speaker 1 When you think about a pitcher, right? As a pitcher, your job is to hit the mid, right? But literally, you're by, it's you and the ball. Right.
And that is it.

Speaker 1 Like, you, they say it's you and the catcher, but the batter has a say-so. Yeah.
It's you're in the ball. It's about your location.
It's about, okay, let's take a calculated risk here.

Speaker 1 Okay, I know this guy, you know, his high spot is high and inside. Right.
So instead of throwing a four seam that's just going to be flat and let him, you know, hit his pitch, you throw a two seam.

Speaker 1 So it runs in a little bit more on his hands. So he thinks, he thinks he sees it coming.
Boom. You get his hands.
Like it's very calculated things between that. As a batter, right?

Speaker 1 When I think about a batter, first thing I think about is a quarterback. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know what the pitchers do.
I know what his stuff is, right? A quarterback.

Speaker 1 I know what a defense's lead coverage is. You know what I'm saying? I know versus a different front.
I know what I'm probably going to get. I've done,

Speaker 1 like, studied the different tendencies of the pressures that they like to bring at a certain time.

Speaker 1 But as a batter, you're like, okay, I watched femme you know this pitcher i know he likes you know changeups uh low and away you know uh with with one strike you know so i'm gonna prepare for that but i have to react to the fastball right so when i'm sitting that behind the center like okay like i i know that uh you know the big bangio defense is gonna show a too high shell uh for the majority but once i get to snap i have to again trust and confirm like oh I have rotation.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, the rotation is to the strength.
Okay. It's covered three.
So boom, my eyes start here.

Speaker 1 And as a batter, you think about a quarterback, you have the same amount, really,

Speaker 1 probably less time as a batter because you have to react to the ball, but you don't have

Speaker 1 Davion Clowney and Miles Garrett and Miles Parsons rushing you.

Speaker 1 So, when you think about those disciplines that baseball teaches you and how you can relate it to football, how you can relate it to boxing, in terms of like being in a pocket, being able to take purposeful strikes,

Speaker 1 as a boxer, when you think about Floyd Mayweather, people know him about his defense.

Speaker 1 But when you look at his strike, like his strike accuracy, like he's landing a very high percentage of his strikes. You know, when you think about,

Speaker 1 I think in today's game, quarterbacks are having such high completion percentages is because

Speaker 1 offenses are created more for the quick game, for throws behind the line of scrimmage that allow people to catch and run. And we think about boxing, those are those jabs.

Speaker 1 Those are those jabs, but the ability to hit, you know, the ability to knock somebody out the book, the ability to hit a ball 60, to throw a ball 60 yards down the field, that is, you know, that's the dagger.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's the stake in the heart.
Yeah. You know, so I think these disciplines, and I'm so happy that you brought up the spatialization.
I think you learn so many different.

Speaker 1 experiences in different sports that you won't be able to really learn in life until you experience it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah.
And we've seen some of that in your famous workout videos that you like to post online. We love, we're big fans.

Speaker 4 I know that sometimes you post them and you're like, yeah, people are going to laugh at this one, but it's funny. And I'm doing this with a purpose.

Speaker 4 My favorite one, I think, is the one where you drop back and you have a baseball bat in your hand. And then you're in the pocket and you just swing a baseball bat from the pocket.

Speaker 4 You're like, that's just a dude that loves sports right there. Or the blindfolded three-point shot that you made with a football.
That was a good one.

Speaker 1 What's towels and the dog? The towels. Backyard.

Speaker 4 Yeah. What's your favorite one that you put out? So,

Speaker 1 like,

Speaker 1 my whole life, you know, I've always got this. You're like, I'm sure you, I'm, like, you tried to do that.
Yeah. Or, or, like, oh, you, you doing this, like, on purpose.

Speaker 1 And I was like, I'm very intentional in everything that I do. So, when I'm doing something, I'm all in.
Yeah. It's not, it's not jokes.
It's not fun and games to me. This is my work.

Speaker 1 This is my craft, right? This is my passion. Like I said, like, Bruce Aarons inspired me to be a Super Bowl win, but I've been training for this moment, for these moments.

Speaker 1 Like, you don't, you don't spend 10 years in the NFL

Speaker 1 for fun fun and jokes and games. You spend 10 years because you love the game and you love the people.
You love everyone that's involved with that game. So these drills that I do,

Speaker 1 I literally, I'm making these drills up based off what I'm experiencing on the field. You know what I'm saying? Again,

Speaker 1 I didn't continue to play baseball. So how can I enhance my

Speaker 1 torque? How can I make sure that my hip to shoulder dissociation is being detailed?

Speaker 1 I'm going to get in the pocket. I'm going to simulate with my helmet.
I'm going to take my drops and I'm going to take a swing.

Speaker 1 Those are things that happens.

Speaker 1 Big shout out to CJ Stroud in the prolific year that he's having. When CJ Stroud is taking swings, baseball swings on the sideline, it is magic.
When CJ Stroud is, you know,

Speaker 1 shooting basketball right before the game, it's magic because this game is predicated on what? Winning.

Speaker 1 You win. Ain't nobody making fun of no jokes.
Yeah. This is, this is, you know, this is amazing.
Yeah. Like, look at, look at the technique that he's using when he's swinging that bat.
It's so true.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's so true. So, so

Speaker 1 I definitely embrace, you know, the laughter. Yeah.
Laughter gives you life. You know, and I, and, you know, sometimes I could be, be funny, but I also embrace the grind.

Speaker 1 I embrace like the thought that me and my trainer put into these workouts. You know, I, I, I embrace the lessons that we learn, you know, because we paying attention to feedback.

Speaker 1 Like, how can you get better if you don't understand why you're doing something or you don't gain perspective? You know, we're always pushing to be greater than what we were. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, if you're not trying to get better, like, you definitely get worse. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 So, so when I approach an off-season, that's why I'm having meetings with Nadia. And that's why my assistant is traveling with me.
You know what I'm saying? Because I still got to get my work in.

Speaker 1 Just because I'm obviously I'm grateful to be here with y'all, but things are still being done. Like,

Speaker 1 do you believe, let me ask you,

Speaker 1 what do y'all believe

Speaker 1 made Barstool such a household name?

Speaker 1 Is it because of the people that you had on the show? Or is it because of the undercover work that y'all do every single day before y'all even got to this platform to allow you? to be who you are.

Speaker 1 It's a good point because we have a dream job. We have the best job in the world.

Speaker 1 But I do think there's some times where we don't give ourselves enough credit where we work really hard and we work long hours. And it's fun.
That's the problem.

Speaker 1 It's like, when we say work, it's like we get to go watch, you know, 12 hours of football. And that's everyone would want to do that.

Speaker 1 So, but yeah, I think we do put in that effort because we always want to be giving our best effort. Like, we don't want to show up and not be ready for doing a show.
So, yeah, it's true.

Speaker 4 And there's a lot that goes on behind the scenes and went on behind the scenes before we were at this platform.

Speaker 4 Like the work that nobody really sees when you're grinding on the way up, on the the way up, on the way up, there's, you spend more time like learning your craft, detailing your craft on the way up to prepare you for once you get to that level.

Speaker 4 So yeah, there's a lot of, there's a lot of stuff that people, I guess, haven't seen, but I guess a lot of that work was also just also watching football.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and it is funny because I always think about like people who have made it in life.

Speaker 1 The one thing I always don't like is that they kind of forget about the lucky breaks along the way. And we've had a lot of lucky breaks.

Speaker 1 You know, we've had things break our way, different paths that we've taken. We went left, we went right.

Speaker 1 So like, I also just admit that, that, like, we're, we, we have luck, you know, there's anyone who's successful has gotten a lucky break at some point.

Speaker 1 And to pretend that that didn't exist, that always bothers me where they're like, well, I was always great. I was always going to be great.

Speaker 1 No, you had, you had something happen in your life where a lucky break propelled you even further. So, yeah.
Yeah, you know,

Speaker 1 I challenge you on that take. You know, I believe in.
four-leaf clovers because I've seen some. Okay.
So I know luck can be real. But I'm not really a big proponent of luck.

Speaker 1 You don't think there's any luck that has come like. Well, I don't believe that anything's happened.
I don't think there's no such thing as a coincidence. Yeah.
I believe it's intentional.

Speaker 1 Everything that we're doing is either enhancing where we're at right now. Either we are being a person of increase or we're really just failing today.
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Speaker 1 Okay, so for example, like your relationship with Jimbo Fisher, which is an incredible relationship we had Jimbo on. You guys won a national title together.

Speaker 1 I'm sure you were recruited a bunch of different places. There's a chance that you go somewhere else or like you, you know, the decision is different.

Speaker 1 There's a little bit of luck involved that like Jimbo, you and Jimbo were the perfect marriage at that perfect time in both of your careers, you know?

Speaker 1 So it's like not, it's not saying that you're lucky.

Speaker 1 It's that there's little things that happen along the way that you're like, you look back and you're like, oh, that was really good that it happened exactly that way. Yeah, no, and

Speaker 1 again, like I said, I don't

Speaker 1 I don't disagree

Speaker 1 with your method. I just believe that Jimbo and I were, it was already playing.
Yeah. You know, like,

Speaker 1 I think the biggest thing that people miss,

Speaker 1 and this is what social media gives us, it gives us instant access to everyone's lives. But I think people miss the people factor.

Speaker 1 Really being around other people and building on those connections that you already have

Speaker 1 or those connections that you have yet to make. And I think when you are around people with similar energy, right, with a similar mindset, those energies, they work towards each other.

Speaker 1 They go together. Jimbo had a lot to prove.

Speaker 1 Jimbo was, you know, he was coming from LSU. He was filling in the steps of Bobby Baum, you know, the legend coach.

Speaker 1 And this is Florida State. Like, I get it.
Florida State isn't in the SEC, but historically, this has been a dominant college.

Speaker 1 And for you to fill up the shoes of Bobby Baum and for people to always connect you with Nick Saban your entire career, you have a chip on your shoulder to say, like, hey, I'm going to accomplish something that, again, I'm going to have my Moses moment.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? I'm not going to be Aaron. It's nothing wrong with being Aaron, but I'm going to be Moses.

Speaker 1 when I got with Jimbo, like Jimbo expressed that to me because unlike a lot of people, like a lot of people just,

Speaker 1 it's not judging, but some people aren't wired the way that others. You hear the term like we ain't come from the same cloth.
Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 I initially knew Jimbo and I were cut from the same cloth because Jimbo wanted a championship. Yeah, he was going to do whatever he could to get that.
I'm a kid from Alabama.

Speaker 1 I'm 35 minutes from Alabama. Listen, people, when I committed to Florida State,

Speaker 1 the things that happened to me and my family was unbelievable living in the state of Alabama, 35 minutes in Tuscaloosa. I mean, my mailbox, I could be getting beat down.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Thank the Lord, you know, Home Depot had these mailboxes

Speaker 1 sticking in the ground. You know, I felt that, man, and this is something that's serious.

Speaker 1 I felt like one time.

Speaker 1 Well, not one time, I still don't have grass that grows in my front yard at my hometown house. I still don't because I felt like somebody poisoned my grass.
Yeah. You you know what I'm saying? Like,

Speaker 4 Harvey uptight, yeah, he's the guy that poisoned the oaks at uh Tombers Corner.

Speaker 1 And you know, that I don't want to, I don't want to blame Harvey or anybody, but I believe like something happened. Like, how does my grass just stop growing?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think Harvey got you.

Speaker 1 And I smell, I smell gasoline, yeah, you know, when I got home, like, me and my dad, we talked, we talked about this.

Speaker 1 My grandmother, working at uh, she worked at UAB Medical West, got rest or so, um, and she was an avid Alabama fan. And like, fans would send my grandmother, my grandmother, hate hate mail.

Speaker 1 My grandma, you going that grandma? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, just because her grandson ain't going to Alabama, you know, like, that is the stuff that you, that you go through.

Speaker 1 And it builds it. What it does is like, I read this book called Callus on My Soul by Dick Gregory.
And it just basically

Speaker 1 a biopic of his life and some of the things that he went through and, you know, some of the influential people that he was with.

Speaker 1 But what he talks about, basically the premise is that all these things that he went through, you know, they built the callus. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, and a lot of people look at calluses as like, you know, oh, I got a callus on my hand, but what is what is that? It's, it's building another layer. Yeah.
It's making that area stronger.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? So all these things that I, that I went through, it made it made me stronger. So same with Jimbo.

Speaker 1 Jimbo, you know, Ethan, his son was, you know, going through a lot with Fanconia anemia. You know, all the things that he does with the Kids First Foundation.
So you just think about the level of

Speaker 1 perseverance that you have to have every single day day because you're looking in your son's eyes and seeing the pain that he's going through, right?

Speaker 1 And you have to claim, you know, 100 and other, 110 other kids as your son, right? Because you have to lead

Speaker 1 a university like Florida State after Bobby Bound, oh, under Nick Saban. So you're like, man, I want something for myself.

Speaker 1 But that connection they had, really, the biggest thing he did was his best friend was Mike Martin Jr., you know,

Speaker 1 the son of Mike Martin, the legendary coach. Shout out to meet in 11.
But they had a meeting with me.

Speaker 1 That's a big thing. Your football coach, man, you believe me a month.
You're going to let me play baseball. You're going to say that the baseball coach is your best friend? Yeah.

Speaker 1 And we sitting there eating together, breaking bread together. So I get to talk football and baseball.
Like,

Speaker 1 what did I want to accomplish in college? I wanted to win a national championship, right? And if I could do that in football and baseball, yes, I'm going to Florida State. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 They're the only ones that said that you could play baseball, right?

Speaker 1 Well, LSU, they said that I could play baseball. Alabama actually said that I could play baseball.

Speaker 1 Alabama, I really felt like the recruitment that I had at Alabama probably helped their baseball program a little bit because they, like, after they didn't get me, they started building these big baseball facilities and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 And I'm just going to hold that to heart. I'm going to say it was because of me.
Yeah. Yeah, no, that was because of you.

Speaker 4 Yeah. She named the stadium after it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 The only team that said that I couldn't play baseball was Florida. Oh.

Speaker 1 The the Florida Gators. And I get, I'm gonna give y'all a quick story.
I went to Friday Night Lights. It was like a camp at Florida.
It was me, a guy named Zeke Pike, who's

Speaker 1 an amazing guy. And I just love how his life has changed and how he's serving the Lord and just doing great things in the community.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Zeke. But we were there competing.
And

Speaker 1 I forgot. I forgot who it was.

Speaker 1 who was the officer coordinator. But anyways, I'm at Florida, right? And we on like this recruiting trip.
And man, I went the MVP of the camp. I show out.
You know what I'm saying? I walk up to,

Speaker 1 you know, that's probably why I don't know his name because he didn't, he told me that I couldn't play. But this is the officer coordinator of the Florida Gators.
This ain't even the head coach.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? I'm not even talking to the head coach. The officer coordinator told me, you know, you ain't going to be able to play baseball here.
And I said, oh,

Speaker 1 I said, okay. I said, well, I probably won't go here.
You know what I'm saying? Like, literally, like

Speaker 1 the 40 years, like, when you think about a kid from Alabama, like, I'm thinking, like, okay,

Speaker 1 one of my guys was,

Speaker 1 like, I looked at, you know, we had Jamarcus Russell, we had Pat White, we had

Speaker 1 Phillip Rivers, and these are Alabama quarterbacks that did not go to an Alabama school. So you have these people, and you just look at the course of...
of what they've achieved in their life.

Speaker 1 And Pat White, like, he did great things at West Virginia. Philip Rivers, he's a Hall of Fame quarterback, you know, one day.
And Jamarcus Russell, he was the number one pick, you know. So

Speaker 1 he did some great things at LSU, won a a national championship there. Well, no, he didn't win a national championship.

Speaker 4 He beat, I think he beat Notre Dame. Yeah,

Speaker 1 yeah, yeah, at LSU. So I was like, man, I'm going to take this chance.

Speaker 1 And at this time, this was when Alabama was the traditional pro-style offense where their quarterback really wasn't making an impact on their team.

Speaker 1 They were surrounded by great talent and a great defense.

Speaker 1 So the opportunity to go to Florida State, team up with Jimbo, who's an offensive mind, and be around those players and dominate and go against the SEC. Do you know how great it was? And it was crazy.

Speaker 1 It was great to be Arbor in a national championship. Yeah.
Yeah. And one, it's an SEC team.
I wish it would have been Alabama.

Speaker 1 That would have been, you know, that probably gave me a little bit more street credit. Yeah.
It would have burned more of your grass.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 The whole house probably would have been burned.

Speaker 1 But funny story about Arbor.

Speaker 1 And this is just the, really, this is the mindset that people in Alabama have when it comes to their football teams. I just won a Heisman, and I'm walking.
I'm walking in the grocery store.

Speaker 1 Me and my friend, one of my best friends, Tanner, Tanner Brown, we're walking in like a Diller's or something.

Speaker 1 And this nice, nice old lady comes up and she's like, hey, like, don't I know you from somewhere? You know, that happens a lot.

Speaker 1 I was like, you know, maybe, like, how are you? Like, do you need any help? Like, because this is a, this is an old lady, you know.

Speaker 1 She's like, no, no, no, I'm good. She was like, Nick Marshall, right?

Speaker 1 And I said, yes, ma'am.

Speaker 1 Nick Marshall. Like, I'm like, it's nothing against Nick Marshall, but I play for Florida State.
I don't have on orange. Listen, I'm at the mall.
I don't have an orange and blue. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I promise you, I got on regular clothes, so I can get it. But I don't look nothing like Nick Marshall.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? And like,

Speaker 1 for her to attach, like, when you're in Alabama, you attach greatness with if you're going to Alabama Auburn. Auburn, yeah.
You know, like, so I missed out on that.

Speaker 1 So I'm sorry to all of my Alabama people that I didn't go to.

Speaker 1 What year was the camp? Because I just looked it up. It's either Steve Adasio or it might have been Charlie Weiss who told you you can't play bass.
So I think Charlie Weiss was the head coach.

Speaker 1 No, he was offensive coordinator for Will Musk champ. Okay.
No,

Speaker 1 this was

Speaker 1 2010. Okay, so it was Steve Adasio.
Be a dude. Not Steve Adasio.

Speaker 1 This guy ended up going to Auburn to be the offensive coordinator at Auburn, too. Big mistake by him.

Speaker 4 Massive.

Speaker 1 Big mistake by him. Yes, it was a huge, but it wasn't Steve Adasio.

Speaker 1 What was the quarterback coach's name? I'm going to look it up right now.

Speaker 4 Remember that Auburn Natty? That was on your birthday, wasn't it? Yeah, it was. You won the national championship on your birthday.
Yes. If I were you, I wouldn't believe in luck either.

Speaker 4 That doesn't feel like luck. That feels like it was.
It was supposed to happen. It's supposed to happen.
You know,

Speaker 1 before the national championship game, you know, when you are on that high stage, like

Speaker 1 a lot of people try to contact you and have conversation build relationships with you and there were there were two people that uh i was able to build a relationship with during that time uh one of those people was was bo jackson

Speaker 1 all right and i'm gonna tell you about bo jackson and another of those people were literally just uh literally two day well one day relationship with this person uh because he got he got back to me and really my wife and that was eric thomas uh eric thomas man literally called him while I was out in LA.

Speaker 1 He reached out to me, man, and prayed for me, gave me some words of wisdom. And like, and that was basically all the motivation I needed to go out there and lead the troops.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? Like, you get a call from Eric Thomas and like just what he stands for, the motivation that he's been inspiring me and my wife.

Speaker 1 Well, now wife, but my girlfriend at the time, our whole life. Like, so shout out to E.T.
and the work that he's doing. But Bo Jackson.
Yeah. Bo Jackson.
Auburn guy. Auburn guy.

Speaker 1 By the way, the guy was Scott Laughlin. Scott Laughlin.
Leave him alone. It was Scott Laughlin.
Yeah, that's exactly who it was. It was Scott Laughlin.
And he ended up going to Auburn. Yeah, he did.

Speaker 1 So let's talk about Bo Jackson. One,

Speaker 1 there are two people from Bessmer, Alabama, that

Speaker 1 I would see

Speaker 1 made me and inspired me to be who I am. And one is D'Amico Rhines.

Speaker 1 He actually was my first signed football. Oh.
Yeah, my uncle had coached him in high school, really coached him from Lil League all the way up.

Speaker 1 So shout out to D'Amico in Houston, what he's doing there. And Bo Jackson, both of them from Bessmer.
Bo Jackson is from Bessmer, Alabama. I've met D'Amico, I talked to him, and Kerry Rose, too.

Speaker 1 I don't want to leave him out. But

Speaker 1 the first time I talked to Bo Jackson was after I won the Heisman.

Speaker 1 And you're from Besmer, Alabama. Now, I know he lived in Chicago and all that.
But he was calling me. And he was like, hey, you know, what's up, Jabbo? And I was like,

Speaker 1 name my name.

Speaker 1 I told him, what's up, oh, Jameson?

Speaker 1 That's not my name.

Speaker 1 But I'm grateful to be talking to you. Man, this man, man, he called me.

Speaker 1 I don't know what booster from Auburn was in his pocket or in his ear, but he would call me at all times of the night, like wanting to talk, saying like, hey, this Uncle Bo, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Like, just calling to check in on you. I'm like, Uncle Bo, like.
I ain't talked to you in my whole life and I'm from your Mac. I'm from your neighborhood.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 You calling me right before the national championship game. And listen, when is the next time I talk to Bo Jackson? After the National Championship? No.

Speaker 1 Like After the National, I didn't hear from him again. Next time I heard from him was at a at a Panini signing.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 What's up, Uncle Jack?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know, that's all they do to that situation.

Speaker 1 When I look back at it, I was like, well, you know, I kind of give credit to Uncle Bo because like he he was really, he was doing everything he could for Arbor. Yeah, like he knew I loved him.

Speaker 1 He gonna call me at all times of the night, waking you up, inspiring me to whoop his team even more. Yeah, you know what I'm saying that's cool

Speaker 1 that was that was so funny man

Speaker 1 so shout out to bo jackson one just the base him d'amico was a great baseball player too in high school like so you got those two people from your same city and i ain't talking about like i ain't talking about like uh you know a suburban area or like on the outskirts like man we are from the same city yeah you know what i'm saying we probably were born at the same hospital You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 And you got two people that like, how can you not be inspired to be your best self when you got two people that already paid the foundation for you? Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Maybe the best athlete of all time in Bo Jackson. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, who talk about a baseball and a football player? Like,

Speaker 1 the only person you can say is prime. Yeah, Dion, yeah.
You know what I'm saying? That's the only person you can put in that. Yeah.
To be that good at both. I got.
Or Charlie Ward because he hooped.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, that's true.
That's the crazy thing about Charlie Ward, where people don't give him enough respect.

Speaker 1 He won the Heisman trophy and didn't get drafted. Yeah.
Yeah. He played in the NBA.
It's crazy. It's crazy.
He'd get drafted. Oh, but hold on.
But still got drafted in the first round. Yeah.

Speaker 1 In the NBA. Okay, come on now.
Yeah. Think about that.
That's incredible. That really is.
Think about what Pat White would have been in today's.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Yeah, I know.
I know. You have all these quarterbacks that were ahead of their time.
It's true. You know what I'm saying? But didn't get the opportunity because of.

Speaker 1 Other things. Yeah.
You know what I'm saying? We don't know why.

Speaker 4 What was the guy's name? He played Florida State Role.

Speaker 1 Was it Myron Myron? Myron Roll.

Speaker 4 so he he was an elite athlete and then what's he now like a heart surgeon?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, he's a surgeon and I believe he's actually a

Speaker 1 he's a government official in

Speaker 1 Is it is it Panama what where

Speaker 1 it's not Panama, but someone

Speaker 1 He was there, but he he was a government official from his native

Speaker 1 His native country

Speaker 1 the Bahamas. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I thought he did some work in the Bahamas.

Speaker 1 I think so, too. Yeah.
He's a newer associate.

Speaker 4 He's a great player, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
He's really, really good. Yeah.

Speaker 4 We play this game with everybody that comes on the show.

Speaker 4 I've got four cities, just random cities. And you tell me which one you like the best, which one you could maybe see yourself living in.

Speaker 4 Seattle, Atlanta, Washington, D.C.,

Speaker 4 and Foxborough, Massachusetts.

Speaker 4 Just four random cities. Random random cities.
Totally random. Which one of those cities?

Speaker 1 I mean, they sound random.

Speaker 1 They're very random. Oh, in Denver.
In Denver. In Denver.
Yeah. Yeah.
I was waiting for that one. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Random.

Speaker 1 You know, anyone that accepts me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But I would just say this.

Speaker 1 Atlanta, I grew up an hour and a half from Atlanta. Like, I'm from Birmingham, Alabama.
You know, I think

Speaker 1 that would be a beautiful time for just my family.

Speaker 1 The accessibility that it'd have for my, you know, other family, my surrounding family. That would be beautiful.
But

Speaker 1 I feel like

Speaker 1 I'm the attraction.

Speaker 1 I'm the thing. I'm the city that is going to bring

Speaker 1 joy, love, trust, peace, integrity to any location that I'm at because I'm a man of increase. Yes.

Speaker 1 I am the city. So that's powerful.
Yeah, it really is. It really is.
So wherever... it may be,

Speaker 1 that city is going to be getting someone

Speaker 1 that is ready. Yeah.
A kingdom man that is prepared to grow everyone around them. I want to sign you right now.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 I am inspired. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. I have an awkward question, but I have to ask it because our fans would be very upset if I didn't.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Jameis won't have won

Speaker 1 the Twitter handle. Yes.
Are you familiar? I am. He's a very big fan.
He is. He loves you.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Very big fan. That's it.
He just loves you. Is it good to have a rider like that? Because he loves you.

Speaker 1 And that's what I mean. Like, it's some stuff that's just not luck.

Speaker 1 Yeah. When you have someone like, well, I never met the guy, you know, never been on the phone with the guy.
Her husband wrote a book with him. Yeah.
And like forward a book with him.

Speaker 1 And like, and I never had any interaction with him. So

Speaker 1 when God sends you an angel like that, that like, man, this man be backing me. Yes.
And my dad, like, he the one that be retweeting.

Speaker 1 You know, like, I'm not, I'm not as active on, you know, on social media but like I'm gonna look at my dad like you retweeting this like because he don't know nothing about no Twitter my daddy called Twitter Tritter

Speaker 1 like you know

Speaker 1 hopefully like luckily it's X now so you can't mix that up you know like it was it was amazing to see because when this book came out my trainer like we training like we preparing I didn't know he's for a book and then the book come out and now I got people asking me like hey is this Jameis's burner account yes like first of all I don't I don't have the time, you know, to represent myself like that on a social media uh base.

Speaker 1 Like, if I'm gonna represent myself, I'm gonna do that in between the lines, yes, you know. Uh, but I

Speaker 1 just view it as you know, an angel in the sky. Yeah, I'm grateful for Jameis 101.
And wherever you at, I appreciate like he sent me emails, emails of encouragement.

Speaker 1 Sometimes he'll shoot to me, like, like you, he would send me random cities, you know, that I need to

Speaker 1 be contemplating on, you know what I'm saying? And he'll have everybody

Speaker 1 on the line. He'll have Nadia on the CCs.
I'm just like, okay, like, thank you.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He rides.
And for people who are unfamiliar,

Speaker 1 you can buy the book on Amazon. I own the book.
It's Jameis Winston Derangement Syndrome: How Media Bias Causes Us to Overlook the Start of a Hall of Fame NFL Career. It's great.
It's a great book.

Speaker 1 Thank you. I mean, he rides for you.
I need a Jameis one of one. I need a guy just riding for me.
We all do. Yeah.
We all need those people that just got our back, you know, unconditionally. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And he goes,

Speaker 1 he gets in the corners of the internet and he just fights he he he has stats that i've never seen before

Speaker 1 i'm grateful for him yeah i need to take him to a negotiating meeting yeah seriously i mean he'll he'll pull up your best stat i he actually probably should put together some some pamphlets for you when you're hitting the free agent ready

Speaker 4 oh yeah no he doesn't have to he doesn't have to put them together yeah i remember sleeping on them so um the last season that you did play and you played to like your fullest extent or before the injury you had what 14 touchdowns three interceptions in new orleans like you can play.

Speaker 4 You can still start. And I hope that another team sees that and brings a city to their city because the NFL is more fun when Jameis Winston is a starting quarterback.
That's a fact. For sure.

Speaker 4 Do you have, um, do you have a game or a single drive or throw that you look back on and you're like, I played that? That to me is my calling card. Like, this is what I can bring to you.

Speaker 1 Um,

Speaker 1 it's a, it's a number of games that I, that has come to mind. Uh, the game in the L.A.
Coliseum against the Rams,

Speaker 1 my rookie year against Philly

Speaker 1 tied the rookie record for touchdowns and Philly was my favorite team growing up

Speaker 1 ironically Andy Reid I just loved him and big Donovan McNab yeah

Speaker 1 but I don't I don't really feel like I played my best best game yet you know like I'm I'm such a in the moment type of person. Like

Speaker 1 I'm starving for that chance to do it again you know and i think uh when you look back on my career when you look back on certain games like

Speaker 1 just like you know the the final play is behind me like what's what's next you know what can i create next like who can i bring joy to next you know like how high can i go like if i'm sitting here like first of all i'm grateful for all my experiences i'm grateful for those games that i did that have that the la game was really fun uh just because that was my second time uh being third time being back la after uh we lost lost to Oregon.

Speaker 1 So I really wanted that game, you know what I'm saying, against the Rams in 2019.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 this is what I do. Like, this is not who I am, but this is what I do.

Speaker 1 Like, it's my passion to go out there and bumps up a bag that, you know, throw five touchdowns, you know what I'm saying, and lead that Super Bowl-winning drive with 13 seconds or a minute and 13 seconds on the clock.

Speaker 1 Like, that is, that's what I've been trained to do. And trust me, it ain't going to be by coincidence when I'm in that opportunity again.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 When I'm awarded with that opportunity again. I hope you're getting that opportunity.
We'll play this clip and we'll go mega viral. Absolutely.
I'm going to get it. Yeah.
Like, he saw it all. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So, one thing that it's pretty clear about you, you believe in yourself and you have that internal confidence and you know what you can accomplish.

Speaker 4 What was it like kind of taking a step back and consciously saying, I am willing to be a backup quarterback because you don't talk like a backup quarterback.

Speaker 4 You have that faith in yourself. You're ready to be the guy.

Speaker 4 Was it like an adjustment period that you had to deal with in New Orleans where you had to dial it back?

Speaker 4 Were you just like, if I'm going to be a backup quarterback, I'm going to be the best backup quarterback that the league's ever seen? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, well, that faith in myself comes from my

Speaker 1 resilient faith in my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. That's where it comes in.
And I know, and I trust in him.

Speaker 1 You know, Proverbs 3, 5 says, trust in the Lord lord with your whole heart and lean not into your own understanding right so i trust in him wholeheartedly and no matter what again

Speaker 1 what no matter what condition circumstances or facts there are surrounding who i am or what i do right that does not define me you know i don't i don't let anyone else or anything

Speaker 1 define what my next move of who I'm going to be or what I'm going to accomplish. So,

Speaker 1 but I would have to say my first first opportunity to be a backup quarterback was a very great gig.

Speaker 1 And I give a lot of credit to Sean Payne for this because I think that was a year where it was kind of back to college where I had to make a decision for, you know, my career, for where I would go.

Speaker 1 And that decision came clear when I talked on the phone with Sean Payne and got a chance to work with Drew Brees.

Speaker 1 Like, again, this is a guy that I looked up to, you know, got a chance to meet a couple, couple of times out in San Diego just through a church rock rock church um uh pastor miles mcpherson had uh george whitfield actually one of my uh old quarterback coaches he had set up a meeting with pastor miles markerson in san diego and drew breeze was the guest speaker one day and i got a chance to meet him out there so that was amazing but anyways being able to work with sean

Speaker 1 who is

Speaker 1 a fearless passionate competitor who who really like drew was the hall of fame face the hall of fame quarterback and uh the resilient surgical player. But that was Sean Payton's culture

Speaker 1 at the New Orleans Saints.

Speaker 1 That team was a reflection of who he is, the tenacity. Like he was, Sean Payton was, he was the man of the city.
Like, he is the one that embraced the culture of New Orleans, and he gave that to me.

Speaker 1 I remember a story with Sean.

Speaker 1 And I'm going to get to the backup. I don't like talking about being a backup because I don't like that place.
You know what I'm saying? Even though I cherish every place that I'm in.

Speaker 1 But, Sean, man, we about to be in the airport

Speaker 1 and it was

Speaker 1 doing COVID.

Speaker 1 Hurricane just came. So we're leaving

Speaker 1 through,

Speaker 1 not privately,

Speaker 1 not charter, but like a regular airport. Like we're checking in through MSY in New Orleans.
And it's a fan, you know, right there. And, you know, he's asking for an autograph.

Speaker 1 You know, I got my headphones on. I can't hear.
And Sean tells the fan, get out of here. He's not finna sign your autograph.
Like,

Speaker 1 and he kind of shoes the guys off, but he looks at me. He's like, we're not here to kiss any babies.

Speaker 1 I don't want you here to be a politician. I want you here to be a quarterback.
And that stuck with me because that's how Drew approached the game.

Speaker 1 Drew wasn't in it. to be liked by everyone.
Drew had a chip on his shoulder because

Speaker 1 one team didn't believe in him. I think he literally did have a chip on his shoulder.
Yeah, he did. MRI.

Speaker 1 Literally, he had a real chip on his shoulder. But one team didn't believe in him.
So he was going to make his next opportunity

Speaker 1 the spot. And that's what he did.
So being able to be in that building, I just had one year with him, but be able to serve Drew Brees. Like, that's what people don't look.

Speaker 10 Like, I served Drew Brees for a year.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? I saw him getting banged up and having to overcome things and, you know, sending him plays and sending him suggestions. Like, this is Drew Breeze.

Speaker 1 Like, Drew looking at me like this. Like, come on, James.
Like, y'all, I don't really need your help. I'm talking and meeting.
Like, it'll be times where he'll just peek down down there.

Speaker 1 I'm just like, okay, let me be quiet. You know, like, but this is like, that's the love that I, even Drew Brees is in the room, and I got love for this game.
I'm willing to

Speaker 1 say something in front of Drew Breeze.

Speaker 1 Like, so I think, again, I've played every role that a quarterback could play to an organization.

Speaker 1 However, I embrace every opportunity that I get. But my desire and my passion is being a Super Bowl-winning quarterback.
And you win Super Bowls by being the starting quarterback.

Speaker 1 You know, that's when

Speaker 1 they deem you as a Super Bowl-winning quarterback when you are starting.

Speaker 1 Even if it's just that game.

Speaker 1 That's a Super Bowl. They're not going to say the backup quarterback.
They're like, oh, he won a Super Bowl, Super Bowl champion.

Speaker 1 Super Bowl-winning quarterback.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Doug Williams. Doug Williams came in off the bench.
Yep, but I didn't put Doug Williams because he was the first. He was the first African-American quarterback.

Speaker 1 He broke barriers.

Speaker 1 His resilience, and I was blessed because DJ Williams was a quarterback coach at the Saints. Yeah, and Doug worked in Tampa Bay, right? Doug worked in Tampa Bay.
Yes. But

Speaker 1 that's barriers, right?

Speaker 1 So when you achieve something like that, I got the vision. Like, I've already seen it happen.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because obviously he was a starter, you know, and then obviously the next season, he was a starter the year before. And the next season, you know, some things had happened.

Speaker 1 But when his opportunity presented itself, he's just not a Super Bowl winning quarterback. He's a Super Bowl MVP.

Speaker 4 And he dominated that. Quarterback.

Speaker 1 Yes. Dominic.

Speaker 1 It was unbelievable. So shout out to Doug Williams and thank you for paving the way for all young African-American quarterbacks.
Yes. Dreaming to do what you did.

Speaker 4 Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 1 When you were coming up, did you ever, like playing ball when you were a kid?

Speaker 4 Were you, did any coach try to be like, I don't know if you're going to play quarterback? Like, can you try running the ball? Like, being a wide receiver? Did you fall into that at all?

Speaker 4 Or at the time, was it like you were so talented that they were like, yeah, Jameis is going to be the quarterback no matter what?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 when I got to, when I got to Hewlettown, my high school,

Speaker 1 I started as a freshman, right? But

Speaker 1 I was competing against an upperclassman that was that quarterback. And we had a

Speaker 1 we had a good relationship. His name was Wayne Carroll, and he ended up going to receiver and like almost was all-staden receiver.

Speaker 1 So, I've never been in a situation where a quarterback told me, like, hey, you're gonna play a different position. I have played some cornerback and some linebacker, exactly, but it was amazing.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm a football player, yeah, I'm just yes, like, I want to be a Super Bowl winner, but I'm a football player, yeah, at heart, you know. So, uh, that's always fun, but no,

Speaker 1 Wayne Carroll,

Speaker 1 his

Speaker 1 selflessness to go and be my best receiver that year, it just gave me, I feel like it gave me a mind shift because it's like the tables have turned.

Speaker 1 Like I was the first African-American quarterback at my high school, you know.

Speaker 1 So that was kind of a unique feeling. That was a lot of pressure

Speaker 1 as a ninth grader being in this rural city

Speaker 1 in Alabama.

Speaker 1 But I think that situation gave me perspective because I was like, okay, like the tables have upturned, but this guy, he didn't complain. Like,

Speaker 1 we got into it. We got into it a lot, you know, but just because he was an alpha too, and I was an alpha, but he did his job, you know, and

Speaker 1 what did my dad teach me when I, like, from Lil Lee, like, hey, no matter what, where the coach puts you, this is a big baseball saying, no matter what, where the coach pushed you, you go out there and you do your best.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So, like, I continue to carry those values up until now.

Speaker 4 So, Wayne Carroll was a white guy. Yeah.
That's a beautiful moment for America.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Rural Alabama.
White quarterback.

Speaker 1 He was a red-haired white guy. Red-headed,

Speaker 1 really white guy.

Speaker 4 And they said, you know what? You look more like an athlete. I'd like you to go play wide receiver.
We're going to put Jameis Winston. That's beautiful.

Speaker 1 Look, running a wing tee. Yeah.

Speaker 4 RIP racism. Yeah.

Speaker 1 There it is.

Speaker 1 But Wayne's the man. Yeah.
Can we talk about eating a dub? Yes, let's talk about it. Oh,

Speaker 1 you got one up there. That looks good.
That looks a good dub. You want to eat it? Put it in the oven a little bit more.

Speaker 1 When you did that, well, we've talked to Cam Jordan about it. We talked to some other teammates of yours, and they're like, it's Jameis.
It's Jameis.

Speaker 1 Like, from the outside world, being like, oh, that's weird. Like, we all love Jameis.
It inspired us. How long have you been eating dubs? I've been eating W's, you know, since the beginning.

Speaker 1 It started a long, long time ago, and that's because my last name is W. And the

Speaker 1 four, the first four letters of my last name spells out wins. Yep.
Fact-check me. It's probably right on Wikipedia.

Speaker 1 I'll be damned. But I've been, it all stemmed from

Speaker 1 one of my favorite motivational speeches.

Speaker 1 And it all surrounds about, you know, a bowl of,

Speaker 1 do y'all remember the soup? The alphabet soup? Yes. Yes.
You know what I'm saying? Of course. I always just talk about like, hey, we scraping the bowl today.

Speaker 1 We scraping, we eating up, we eating up everything, right? And we only looking for dubs in the alphabet soup. It's a lot of different options out there, but we looking for W's.

Speaker 1 We eating all the W's in the alphabet soup. But this one game, like, ironically, you know, the true thing happened in New Orleans.
Like, it was at New Orleans and we lost the game.

Speaker 1 That's why.

Speaker 1 You know, I'm still selling E to W t-shirts. You know what I'm saying? If it'd been way bigger, we'd have won the game.

Speaker 1 That's why winning is so important. Winning defines everything.
And you two are winning in what y'all do. And I am, too.
I'm winning in life. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 I will be getting more wins on the football field. But, anyways, eat the W.
I'm talking, you know, and I'm inspiring the guys, like, hey, like, what are we eating today?

Speaker 1 Like, I already had the alphabet soup conversation early in the evening.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Yeah, and we ate the W. I was like, what are we eating? I was like, we're eating W's.
Like, what this is. You know what I'm saying? It's a W.
We're eating that W. You know what I'm saying? Like, so.

Speaker 1 I took the W out the soup. I already had the W ready and prepared.
Yeah. I think it went left when I started actually eating the W.

Speaker 1 Yes, I agree. And when I ate the real W

Speaker 1 and then proceeded to dap up Deshaun Jackson,

Speaker 1 I think that was the worst person to dap up.

Speaker 1 Because Deshaun from Cali, all right, Hall of Fame. First, he don't got no time for no eat the W's.
He just, he look like, give me some touchdowns. Give me the ball, Jameis.

Speaker 1 Like, hey, worry about Eat the W. And when I tried to dap him up, in the eye contact we made,

Speaker 1 doing that, I think it was a powerful speech. It really was.
I was banged up. You know, I had a grade three AC spring.
You know, I'm going and I'm fighting, I'm fighting that.

Speaker 1 Like, and we've been losing. I'm just, I'm, how are we going to wheel this team to get a win in the Super Dow?

Speaker 1 My first NFL win was against Drew Brees and beating the Saints in the Super Dome. So I'm just like, I got good vibes here.
You know what I'm saying? We didn't win that game. But

Speaker 1 I felt it was powerful. Yeah.
Like, when you think about like, what is what is Eden a W? You know, it's just, it's just winning. Yeah.
It's

Speaker 1 doing something to

Speaker 1 push you towards what you want to accomplish.

Speaker 1 And that's what sometimes it can get misconstrued about me that

Speaker 1 I'm a jokester,

Speaker 1 I'm goofy.

Speaker 1 No, I'm just... I'm just all in.
Like, I'm all in for the people that I work with every single day. I'm all in for my brothers, my sisters.

Speaker 1 Like, man, you know, I'm having conversations with the janitor. You know what I'm saying? I'm having conversations with the lunch ladies.
Like, this is not just, you know, that's my family. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? We put in too much work not to enjoy what we do and not to express how we feel. I think that's a lot of things.
A lot of people want to express things with their thumbs.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? A lot of people want to express things from a facade, like from a story that,

Speaker 1 you know, probably got a green screen behind them. No one wants to express their feelings out loud.
No, no, we, we, we're, we're lacking genuine people.

Speaker 1 Like they really speak their truth and have no explanation for it. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't have to explain to you why I said this.
I don't have to explain to you why I did this.

Speaker 1 Trust that it came from great intentions of my heart. And trust that with all said, I got your back.
Because again,

Speaker 1 what I want for myself, I want for you.

Speaker 1 So if I'm all in, I want you to be all in.

Speaker 1 I love that. That's a leader right there.
Yeah, I'm ready to eat a dub right now. That is a leader.

Speaker 4 It is fair to point out that that was the sequel to the alphabet soup W. We kind of just jumped in, and all we had was no context.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Just eat the W.

Speaker 4 It was like that. It's like trying to jump into a second movie without seeing the first one.
You're not going to understand what goes on behind the scenes.

Speaker 1 When we make our ad commercial for our Eat the W shirts, it's going to start off with just

Speaker 1 a bowl of soup. And it's going to be a W just floating in the middle by itself.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 And then, like, I'm going to come out of the soup and be like,

Speaker 1 eat the W. And then slide back in the soup.

Speaker 1 and then it's gonna come on up it's gonna say eat a W on the top I mean I every other time I eat alphabet soup from now on I'm just gonna eat the W's W's only

Speaker 1 why why would you eat anything else imagine touching an L

Speaker 1 no stop that thing

Speaker 1 you're vegan now so are W's vegan so I've been oh there are a couple vegan W's okay all right good good so I always I got this from Indomic and Sue were just challenging my body and trying different diets in the course of an offseason.

Speaker 1 So this one time, literally the year after

Speaker 1 the, was it the COVID year, Nadia? Was it, what year was it? Was it 2020? Where I went full vegan for six months, and that was very challenging being a southern boy from Alabama.

Speaker 1 It was challenging, but it was very beneficial. I went from 250.
to 207 in a matter of eight weeks. Wow.
Right. And it just was me eating great food, losing a lot of just bad weight.

Speaker 1 But it was painful because

Speaker 1 I love to eat meat and I love to eat good.

Speaker 1 But I think anything that you can do to, again,

Speaker 1 increase your, your, whereas status, your, your health,

Speaker 1 your brain function to be the best that you can be, you have to do it. So I'm, I'm thankful that and Damikan Sue, you know, he put me on, you know, blood work.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 I didn't know anything about blood work.

Speaker 1 You know, I just thought like you get a regular checkup you know like now i'm i'm getting blood work and they got you know 18 to 50 tubes of blood binge like i don't think i have enough blood to so

Speaker 1 you know but it's just you always are are thankful for uh

Speaker 1 new

Speaker 1 and uh and prosperous uh ideas or recommendations to to better yourself yeah that's smart i i i should go vegan

Speaker 1 lost that much weight impossible to be a vegan in new orleans i would think it's the food down there is just so good it's so challenging but you don't understand like like when you have a plant-based diet you don't understand how much animal fat or animal substances are in just regular vegetarian meals like it's in it's in everything so uh i i went the easier route and i just did fruit and salads and uh just a variety of uh of like walnuts brazil nuts pine nuts like thing things in that that nature to just help me you know not even have to worry about um

Speaker 1 all the ends and outs of like, is this vegan? Like, I didn't want to be, I think that's probably why I lost so much weight, right? Because

Speaker 1 was I eating enough? Like, I have no idea. I just know that my, my energy felt the same every single day.
I know that I was moving better than ever.

Speaker 1 And I was skinny. You know, I lost my gut.
So I was proud of that. Yeah.
Yeah. But when it came to, you know, when it came to mooding that pocket and

Speaker 1 breaking tackles, you know, I was just like, yeah, let me go and eat me a nice steak. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 You got to get your your weight up a little bit. If you were, if you were to have like one last meal in New Orleans, what would it be?

Speaker 1 Uh, well, I have an amazing chef, um,

Speaker 1 uh, Chef Tatiana and uh, Chef Jewel Robinson. Uh, they are, um,

Speaker 1 Chef Jewel is the mother of uh famous chef, Chef Kwame Onwache, who owns Tatiana's in New York. And it was rated the number one restaurant in the country last year in top 50 in the world.

Speaker 1 Is that Nigerian food? Uh, it's uh, so it's really

Speaker 1 is it Pan-American?

Speaker 1 It's kind of Caribbean

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 African, but he's like,

Speaker 1 what is his, I think, I think he's, is he Nigerian? I remember I read an article about him.

Speaker 1 His dad is Nigerian. So it's really like a mix of Cajun.
It's really like,

Speaker 1 it's really a mix of everything. thing that he's been through uh because uh chef told me a story how she sent him to live was it africa or what where was it

Speaker 1 yeah she sent him to live in africa like so he understood like i think was it the granddad was a chef

Speaker 1 so his granddad was a chef and a popular chef and that's and that was his mom's dad right so it just ran in the family so he basically took uh

Speaker 1 like let's think of gumbo as a like he took African cuisine he took New Orleans cuisine he took LA cuisine and just made it all into his own thing. I have his cookbook.

Speaker 1 I had to send it to y'all. Yeah.
Just to get the term of like the type of cuisine this is. But I know one thing, it's delicious.
Yeah. Right.
So no matter what type of cuisine this is, it's amazing.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Right.
So my favorite meal would be probably something from Tatiana's. My chef, her name is actually Tatiana.
And he named it after her. And he has an amazing

Speaker 1 short rib there.

Speaker 1 Is it? What is the name of the short rib? Like, it's like.

Speaker 1 just like falling. Sounds very good.
Yeah, it's it's it's unbelievable, it's unbelievable, yeah. Like, in the vibe, they're talking, it's right there in the Lincoln Center, and like it's just amazing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, um, so we got a couple last questions. It's been unbelievable, Jameis.

Speaker 1 You're an all-time vibes guy, you really are. Like, it's just the vibes are high when you're when you're talking.
Um, so this one's from our good friend Stephen Shea, who's a die-hard Bucks fan.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 Who this is actually a pretty detailed question, but he said he wanted to know: you played with a lot of great players, but two guys that are constantly overlooked are Levante David and Demario Davis.

Speaker 1 Who do you think is more underrated between the two of them? Levante David's been doing it forever. Yeah.
It's crazy. I don't know who's more underrated, but I know the caliber of men they both are.

Speaker 1 I know both of them should be and will be Hall of Famers.

Speaker 1 I feel like the most underrated player I play with, honestly, that people don't give enough respect to, is Mike Evans. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I think he's the person that flies up on the radar a a lot. You know, I feel like Levante flew up on the radar,

Speaker 1 but I think like literally he's like fine wine. Him and DiMario, the older that they get, the better that they have been playing.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I just, I'm grateful for the relationship that I have with DeMario and how he helped

Speaker 1 increase me with my faith. Like he's just an unbelievable man, father, and leader.
And just being around him in New Orleans was really a treat to my to my heart.

Speaker 1 With Levante, the competitor that he is and a man that he is, it's like they're similar individuals, but the way that they approach the game and the way that they prepare is unbelievable.

Speaker 1 So I'm just, I'm grateful for Levante because he was kind of like one of the old heads that helped me in the league, helped me move around. Him and Jerry McCoy, you know, were those people that

Speaker 1 kind of took me on their wing. Jerry McCoy, Vincent Jackson, and Levante kind of took me under their wing and showed me, you know, how to be a pro.

Speaker 1 Like, what are the things that I need to to be doing?

Speaker 1 So I'm grateful for both of them. But, like I said, the most underrated player that don't get enough respect is Mike Evans.

Speaker 1 We did a whole thing on it a couple weeks ago where it's like Mike Evans, if you look at it, he is going to be, if he plays five, six more years, he will be, it will be Mike Evans and like Randy Moss and, you know, Jerry Rice and like T.O.

Speaker 1 and like this vaunted group of receivers that are just unassailable. It's like these are the top five guys and people don't give him enough credit.

Speaker 1 Like a thousand yards every single year for he's been in the league for 10 years.

Speaker 1 And you look at statistical things, but when you look at the size, the speed, to bend, how he's running these routes, like how he's creating separation, like he's doing it in a detailed, skilled way.

Speaker 1 He's not doing it because of his unique athletic ability or his talent. He's doing it because he trains in this way.

Speaker 1 You know, I really think he's doing it because if you ever looked at his toes, you would see how powerful he was because his toes look like they just dig in the ground like and i'm a feet guy because i wanted to be a podiatrist uh when i when i grew up it i haven't achieved that yet but it's probably uh probably probably gonna come but anyway like mike mike was just an amazing play and you know i played with with with the shawn uh and i played with another excellent receiver uh uh mike thomas you know Those guys are both Mike Thomas and Deshaun, they're both Cali guys, you know, so they love the ball.

Speaker 1 Mike, he don't complain about nothing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He don't give you no

Speaker 1 beef. You know what I'm saying? He's just a cool, laid-back person that's going to show up to work, do his job, and it's going to outdo everybody on the field.

Speaker 1 He's so dominant that he doesn't get the respect that he deserves because, like you said,

Speaker 1 we talk about the stats, but he's been doing this since he got in the league. It's crazy.
Since he's got, and you don't, and you, you leave him off all pros, you leave him off pro bos and stuff.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm just like, man, like, they, the world the nfl culture don't know what they missing with mike evans because you know that's i those are the men that the nfl you know they they put on that they put on that pelvis of those those great fathers those great men that the nfl man of the year that's that's another uh goal of mine like people that's giving back to their their community doing it silently not looking for a pat on the back but doing it because that's just who they are yeah you know what i'm saying they will put it ain't by coincidence that they like that either yeah they they they went through certain things in their life that inspired them and influenced them to be who they are.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I just, shout out to Mike, man. Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's interesting, you brought up the fact that Cali receivers like the ball.

Speaker 4 Can you describe what's the difference between California receivers, receivers from Texas, and maybe Florida wide receivers?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 the Cali receivers, I feel like that they just,

Speaker 1 I feel like that they just, they are so influenced by the lifestyle in California, like they are born to be superstars, right?

Speaker 1 So, when they are put in a, in a, in an environment where they are the athles and they are the stars, I think they're gonna take full advantage of that responsibility.

Speaker 1 So, I just think their thirst for wanting the ball, right? Whether it's challenging times, feeling like they're always open, even if they're triple cover,

Speaker 1 like I think that's always just gonna be something that they yearn for. Uh, Texas, man,

Speaker 1 i feel like texas is they're so uh

Speaker 1 i feel like the majority of texas they're so uh lifted up through high school in their young days because a lot you know texas everybody talk about friday nights and so so they are experiencing an nfl lifestyle in middle school yeah you know what i'm saying that's just how big you know the stardom and the you know you think about friday night lights and all that stuff that's how big it is in texas in middle school and high school they have a class for football during during school hours in

Speaker 1 In high school, they have hot tubs, saunas,

Speaker 1 steam rooms, and

Speaker 1 indoor facilities. Yeah, it's great.

Speaker 4 We rose since they were 12.

Speaker 1 We were in Dallas. And I forget the high school

Speaker 1 we were at, but this is where Mark Cuban, Jerry Jones, Sam,

Speaker 1 Matt Stafford went here.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, Highland Carson. Highland Park.
They got an indoor facility

Speaker 1 that looks better than our indoor facility.

Speaker 1 This is a high school in Texas.

Speaker 1 So I think Texas receivers, they just, I feel like

Speaker 1 they're different, but Mike is different. Mike is from Galveston.

Speaker 1 I always tell this to people.

Speaker 1 And this is something that me and my trainer talk about a lot. If you are born

Speaker 1 around water,

Speaker 1 like you have a different way of life. You function differently.
And I just feel like you function differently because water, like water has no soul.

Speaker 1 You You know, it doesn't discriminate against anybody. You get in that water, it's going to take you wherever it goes.
So I feel like people that are around water, they are very strong will.

Speaker 1 They're one with water. You know what I'm saying? And Mike is from Galveston.

Speaker 1 If you've been to Galveston, Galveston is known for, you know, I don't know what they're known for because I'm not from there, but I know they have a beach. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 And it's not a pretty beach. No, they're known for oil.

Speaker 4 It's some of the dirtiest sand in America.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah.
But it's not a pretty beach. So Mike is from that muck.
Yeah. It might be oil muck.
Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But it's still muck.
So

Speaker 1 he's a little different. I don't classify him as like the regular Texas receivers.

Speaker 1 But CeeDee Lamb is a Texas receiver. And I know he had a dominating year.
Yeah. Who else is? Is Brandon Cooks from Texas?

Speaker 4 Brandon Cooks might be.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
But yeah. And then Florida wide receivers.

Speaker 1 Florida, I feel like, you know, and let me be impeccable with my words.

Speaker 1 Florida wide receivers are probably most,

Speaker 1 one,

Speaker 1 when you're in Florida and you play raw receivers i think they're the most savviest receivers because i believe you ought to like it is so many

Speaker 1 raw receiver coaches in the state of florida that are work like you got you got a route god you know what i'm saying you got gold feet global you know and that's just that's just two people that i know that i've worked with route god yeah

Speaker 1 that's my dog but they're they're working on their feet like when you're looking at foot they got

Speaker 1 they got some of this they got some of that but you know i feel like all of them you know, they need to get a psychiatrist

Speaker 1 and just share with them some of the things that they went through.

Speaker 1 You know, from,

Speaker 1 I'm talking about probably from when they were born. You know, they need someone to talk to.

Speaker 1 And that's how I view the Florida receivers. But I'm going to tell you something about Florida.

Speaker 1 And I'm pretty sure Cali is like this and other places. But the lower you go in Florida, the more you get out of Florida.
Tallahassee is South Alabama, South Georgia.

Speaker 1 So if you from like the Panama City, like the panhandle across, like you like an Alabama person. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, like South Alabama, South Georgia, you know, I feel like Jacksonville, South Carolina, like all that's the same. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 You, you're a little wild, but you know what I'm saying? You Southern hospitality. You go down like Kenny Shaw, like, is in Orlando.
Kerman Whip, like they're whole, they're whole different people.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? Than Kevin Benjamin, who's an hour south of Kenny Shaw, and he's from Belle Glade. You know, he's completely different.
Anquan Bolden, right?

Speaker 1 A little hour south of Belle Glade. Like, he's completely.
Like, these people are,

Speaker 1 they're just different.

Speaker 1 And, and I'm grateful, honestly, I'm great. That's why I'm so happy I went to Florida State

Speaker 1 because I was able to

Speaker 1 build relationships with people that were just, they thought differently, they had different perspectives, and communicating with them for us to win was a challenge.

Speaker 1 It really was because I'm a person where I'm for everybody. You know what I'm saying? And sometimes these players,

Speaker 1 they were for Orlando. They were for Belle Glade.
They were for Fort Lauderdale. They were for Miami.
You know what I'm saying? More than they were for everybody.

Speaker 1 Just because they're so, I feel like Miami, Miami, oh, not Miami, but Florida. Florida players are so like,

Speaker 1 specifically Miami, they run in clicks. Like if you see one person from Miami, you're going to see 10 people from Miami, right? And those 10 people might be living in the same house.

Speaker 1 So, when you go and knock on somebody's door saying, like, hey, like, we're gonna go throw these routes, you know, in the field, you're gonna have to say, What's up to the cousin?

Speaker 1 You had to dap out the auntie.

Speaker 1 You know, I'm saying, you're probably gonna have to, you know, kick some Roman noodles because some kids are gonna be running around, you know, before they come out and say that they're ready to go throw.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, so I think they run in clits because

Speaker 1 they function off a lot of community.

Speaker 1 And I think Florida has a lot of,

Speaker 1 I would credit the

Speaker 1 old heads in Florida.

Speaker 1 How am I defining old heads? I define old heads are people that have experienced high things. I think they do a good job of giving back to their kids in Florida.

Speaker 1 Like you see the ocho cincos out there working with the young guys.

Speaker 1 Like you see all the older people that have been there and done that, building up these young athletes that are soon to be what they are one day.

Speaker 1 So I think I give that credit to Florida, but I would feel like Florida is definitely the most confrontational receiver out of them all. But I believe that,

Speaker 1 and I don't, this is my opinion. I believe that Florida receivers have an entire different work ethic and grind than receivers from other places.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. So I have one last question, Jameis.

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Speaker 1 I have to apologize for something.

Speaker 1 So during COVID, when there was no sports, I started playing video games on NCAA 2014, I believe it was, the old one. And I started streaming it.
People were watching.

Speaker 1 And I got the OC job at Florida State. And it was the last year that you were in the game.
And I did have a game. I threw six interceptions with you.
So I apologize.

Speaker 1 We did win the Fiesta Bowl, though. Yes.
Okay. So you won by throwing six interceptions? No, I don't think I won that game.
I think I lost that game, but I wanted to apologize.

Speaker 1 Do you accept my apology? I threw six interceptions with you. No, I don't accept your apology, but I'm grateful that you shared that with me.
Okay, all right, all right.

Speaker 1 That was a really nice way to say, why the fuck did you throw six interceptions? Yeah, yeah. You know,

Speaker 1 I'm very tough on myself. Yeah.
You know, so, so I think you, you not, you have to be able to laugh, laugh at yourself, but you also got little, yeah, you got things that...

Speaker 1 that you know you have to like eliminate your energy. Yeah.
You know that game. Yeah.
It it was the ACC championship game against Georgia Tech, and that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 Okay, so once you told me that I admit, I once you said six, yeah, that's a number, I believe, I believe the numbers, and then you said, and I was like, okay, that's eliminated from my mind.

Speaker 1 So, I don't forgive him, okay, but I'm grateful that he shared that with me because now I'm gonna be able to process that and move forward.

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay, great, but but I feel good about moving on from this, I'm gonna eliminate it from my mind as well. What about can we get another NCAA game?

Speaker 1 I know, like, I'm so like, I'm so frustrated that playing Madden is so challenging. I know.

Speaker 1 Right now, I was like, I tell my brother all the time, because he's a young, upcoming athlete, and he's going to be a beast. Jonah Winston, be sure.
Like, when I

Speaker 1 make sure

Speaker 1 Barstrew retweets my last highlight video that I posted, Jonah Winston. Yes.
Yeah. So.

Speaker 1 I told my brother, I wish I would have played Madden more growing up and won Super Bowls on Madden and visualize that because I spent so much time winning Heismans and winning championships on NCAA.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? Like, I didn't play enough Madden. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Like, so now I'm going back and I'm having to take my rating down from all Madden to all-pro, and then I'm losing to all-pro.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to rookie. You know what I'm saying? I got to go to, you know, whatever the next one is.
Like, and I'm like, I'm getting these wins, but this doesn't feel real.

Speaker 1 And then I play my brother and he's 21 scomping me.

Speaker 1 I'm asking, you know, you ask those questions. Like, I mean, we picking a team, like, you play on all manner, you play on all-pro.
You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm all bad.

Speaker 1 You know, I'm like, okay.

Speaker 1 How can I sneak this all-product?

Speaker 4 Do you have yourself as a starting quarterback when you play Madden?

Speaker 1 Every single time. Yeah.
Yeah. Hell yeah.
Hell yeah.

Speaker 4 So you have yourself starting, you play as the Saints. Yes.
Jameis Wentz is starting and you're trying to win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 4 you need to just grind at it. The game has become a lot harder recently.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 They made a really dark.

Speaker 1 Grind a start at PFT. Okay.

Speaker 1 This is very intentional. Yeah.
of me earning a Super Bowl. Like, you got to see it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, I believe you. Yeah.
But you have to, but

Speaker 1 you guys,

Speaker 1 even though you probably can't pinpoint the

Speaker 1 time, but you saw yourself being in

Speaker 1 this role. You visioned it somewhere.
And

Speaker 1 I'm a big, like, I know.

Speaker 1 The Lord has a vision for me.

Speaker 1 And I have to visualize what I want for myself. Like, that is going to glorify his kingdom by visualizing what I want for myself to honor him.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 So I think in everything that you do, you got to find a way to, you got to find, you got to find a way to experience that.

Speaker 1 And sometimes it might take six interceptions in college, you know, against Georgia Tech. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 And then you got to eliminate that and go back to the next game and win the Fiesta Bowl. Yeah.
Yeah. Well, I apologize again.

Speaker 1 It was Georgia Tech. The Georgia Tech official account made fun of me for it.
And I might have thrown you under the bus.

Speaker 1 I said it was Jameis through six picks, not me, even though I was playing the game. I was saying I was offensive quarterback.
Don't worry about that.

Speaker 1 I'm accustomed to that. Okay, yes, yes.
But yeah, I'm good that we could just bury that now. I felt like it was weighing on me.
I think it stopped us from winning anatti that year.

Speaker 4 Can you keep us up to date on your Madden progress? I want to know when you win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I will. Yes.

Speaker 4 Because I think that would people will believe in you too. It's starting to click.

Speaker 4 Once the world can visualize Jameis Winston win a Super Bowl, then I think that's 6 billion people that will be sharing in that vision. It's going to help you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, okay.

Speaker 1 Well, Jameis, this has been awesome. We want you on anytime you want to come back on.

Speaker 1 This like exceeded everything we thought. It's been a long time coming, but this was so great and so thankful that you made the trip because it's so much better in person.
So

Speaker 1 thank you so much. We really appreciate it.
We're fans for life. So we're not, neither of us are Jameis one of one.
No. But we have talked to him.
So we ride. We ride.
He sends us out.

Speaker 1 If he needs to send us out, we'll go muck it up with some people.

Speaker 4 You you need any angels and free agency yeah just we got you

Speaker 1 say the word we got your back oh man listen the the the person i'm praying to he got me yeah you know what i'm saying yeah but uh i'm i'm grateful for this opportunity uh to be with you guys you know and to share this energy like you guys are men of increase yeah and that's what i'm trying to what that's why i am going to surround myself with and be unapologetic for it yep so i appreciate y'all all right thank you so much thanks jameis

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Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 wrapping up. I mean, that I hope everyone loved the Jameis interview as much as we did.

Speaker 1 That was so much fun.

Speaker 1 We will definitely have him on again.

Speaker 4 He's going to be Moses.

Speaker 1 I feel like we could have talked to him forever. We can definitely do a whole other interview.

Speaker 1 But yeah, he's the best. He's going to be Moses.
We need him to get a starting job. We need more Jameis.
He was in the office for eight hours.

Speaker 6 He talks about it, but I was thinking back on it because I think that interview was at like 11 a.m.

Speaker 8 Yeah. And I think at 5 o'clock,

Speaker 8 he was like still on the I was doing something else. I came out of a meeting and went to the golf simulator, simulator and he was just

Speaker 1 involved. It was amazing.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's, it's, it's nice. Like we've had, you know, Cam Newton and Brandon Marshall, Jameis, Chris Berman, who's coming on Wednesday.

Speaker 1 Like anyone who wants to come, come hang out with us for a day because it's not like just

Speaker 1 yeah, Jules' not coming to just do an interview. It's coming to hang out, do a bunch of stuff with us.
So thank you to Jameis for making the trip for us.

Speaker 1 So much fun. So much fun.
He is maybe my favorite player ever.

Speaker 4 The nicest dude ever. Nicest dude ever.
And now we're texting with Jameis.

Speaker 1 Yeah, now he's our boy. He's our boy.

Speaker 4 He's our boy. He's a great dude.
Best friends.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 4 Was there anything else that happened today, Piquette? And maybe pop culture, arts, music, anything like that that we should cover? The Grammys.

Speaker 1 The Grammy Awards. Yeah, no, that's what I said.
I said we got to do our Grammys recap.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I was setting him up. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Come on, Max. Come back.
Try not to fart on your walk over here.

Speaker 1 But keep it about the Grammys. Burrito Boy.

Speaker 8 I'm going to finish that. I'm on Max's side.
I'm not.

Speaker 4 I think he kind of got set up by the universe.

Speaker 4 I don't think, I don't, I'm not, I'm not blaming Diana for accurately reporting because that's her job to report on things.

Speaker 4 But this was just like God. You can only point at God and be like, you put me in the situation.

Speaker 10 Yeah, it wasn't necessarily like.

Speaker 10 I wasn't sleeping and I was just like outwardly

Speaker 10 farting, like that would be bad.

Speaker 1 But like, what am I supposed to do? I don't know. I'm going to say that I have no sympathy for Max.
This is direct karma for saying I hope you have a really safe flight.

Speaker 4 You had a really safe flight?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 he was fucking around with airplanes, and what happened to him? He ate a burrito, farted his face off in front of a reporter.

Speaker 8 Also, I was asleep on the flight today, and the person next to me just ripped open the window in the middle of the flight and woke me up with the sunlight.

Speaker 6 Kind of crazy. Who was next to you?

Speaker 1 Oh, it was me because I was awake because Hank elbowed me as hard as anyone's ever elbowed me when I was asleep.

Speaker 4 Also, you're allowed to open up the window shades.

Speaker 1 Correct.

Speaker 6 Yeah, but not like

Speaker 4 you opened it too aggressively.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 After he aggressively elbowed me.

Speaker 4 Also, Hank, you're up

Speaker 1 40,000 feet in the air.

Speaker 4 There's nothing to see. Hank is so happy this happened to you, Max.
I'm not happy, but Hank is so happy.

Speaker 10 I'm not just all of you are so happy.

Speaker 1 We actually weren't 40,000 feet in the air. I know exactly when it happened because I fell asleep before we took off.
You elbowed me before we took off, so I woke up.

Speaker 1 And then as we were taking off, you fell asleep, and I opened the window to see what it looked like when we were taking off.

Speaker 4 And also, learned something about planes. It's 737.
The operational ceiling is usually about 33,000. I guess it could go up to 40,000.

Speaker 4 But very rarely does that happen. So why don't you look at a map?

Speaker 1 All right, Grammys. Grammys.
So Travis Kelsey was there to support Taylor Swift? No. She goes to...
Travis Kelsey was not there. What?

Speaker 10 Taylor Swift went with Lana Del Rey.

Speaker 4 How many touchdowns does she have? Zero.

Speaker 1 Wait, but Taylor Swift goes to all of Travis Kelsey's games.

Speaker 10 Yeah, but

Speaker 1 he's Super Bowl. Oh.
Okay, but they're playing right now. Is he here?

Speaker 10 He's prepping for Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 Interesting.

Speaker 10 And they are here. Well, actually,

Speaker 1 he could have just taken a flight right after.

Speaker 1 He could have just taken a flight right after the Grammys.

Speaker 9 I'm just telling you.

Speaker 1 I'm just reporting. I don't think she has a prize show or anything like that that she could put him on.
This is such a...

Speaker 9 Did Billy Strings win anything?

Speaker 1 Nope. Tony Mitchell's right now.
Is that true?

Speaker 10 Is that incorrect? I don't know.

Speaker 1 Tony Mitchell is looking great.

Speaker 8 That's correct. The Grammys are bullshit.

Speaker 4 Tracy Chapman.

Speaker 10 Tracy Chapman and Luke Homes did Fast Car.

Speaker 10 People were liking it on Twitter.

Speaker 9 Nice.

Speaker 4 One of the best songs of all time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because people were mad that Luke Combs was doing Fast Car, being like, even though Tracy Chapman, I think, said, like, go ahead, cover my song. So now we get the full circle.

Speaker 1 They did it together. Yep.
Beautiful moment.

Speaker 10 Beautiful moment.

Speaker 10 Alex Earl was there.

Speaker 1 How is she looking? She was

Speaker 1 no disrespect.

Speaker 9 What songs are she?

Speaker 1 All respect.

Speaker 10 She doesn't sing.

Speaker 1 Braxton Berrios is one of our guys. He's a thirst trapper.
His hair, by the way, has been looking incredible.

Speaker 8 That's just a double thirst trap.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, they're the hottest couple ever.

Speaker 1 Nope. I was going to go down his path there.

Speaker 10 Zach Ryan.

Speaker 1 They've really had sex together, I would assume. Yeah.
That's all I want to say.

Speaker 4 I think that they enjoy having sex with each other.

Speaker 1 They're probably the only.

Speaker 4 Each person is probably the first person that the others had sex with. That's like, oh, now I get why sex is good.
Yeah, you're hot.

Speaker 1 You're hot enough. You're hot, too.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 10 Zach Ryan was there with our co-worker, Brianna Chicken.

Speaker 1 Shout out, Brie.

Speaker 10 Shout out, Brie.

Speaker 1 She looked great. Yep.
Yep. Yeah.
She was sitting like four feet from Taylor Swift.

Speaker 4 Pretty cool.

Speaker 1 I wonder if she said anything about it. She was like, hey, they talk about you a lot on Pardon My Take.

Speaker 4 Pervert My Take. Yeah.

Speaker 11 Pervert My Take. Correct.

Speaker 1 What was Taylor wearing?

Speaker 1 A white and black dress. And she had a watch on her neck.
I did not know. Since midnight.

Speaker 1 I love the Swifties who do like the, I think they're called Tianan, maybe, who try try to decipher everything that Taylor Swift does.

Speaker 1 Taylor Swift is the most obvious person ever whenever she's trying to send a message. She was wearing a necklace that was set to midnight.

Speaker 4 Yeah, what does that mean something happens at midnight?

Speaker 1 She telegraphs all of her stuff.

Speaker 9 How many awards did she win?

Speaker 10 She did not win Song of the Year. What? She did not win Zid.
Billie Eilish.

Speaker 1 Oh, for what was the Barbie song?

Speaker 10 Barbie song. Nice.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yep.
A song else.

Speaker 10 Killer Mike. Yep.
Yep. Won three Grammys.
Run Jules. Then got arrested.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That rocks. That's so.
Wait, wait.

Speaker 4 What did he get arrested for?

Speaker 1 We don't know. Don't know.

Speaker 4 Okay, so as of now, I think it rocks if it's something really bad, and it sucks. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's good for street crab, but probably sucks for the after party. This boy's just so party.

Speaker 4 But it's like, it is good for street crab. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Killer Mike's awesome. Although it's like kind of weird because you saw it.
It was like, you know, they're doing it where the Clippers and the Lakers play.

Speaker 1 He was just in the concourse getting arrested. That kind of sucked.
It does suck.

Speaker 4 So it might have been the thing where they'd been looking for him in L.A. for a while.

Speaker 1 Like, we know he's going to be.

Speaker 4 We know he's going to be at the Grammys. Who votes on the Grammys?

Speaker 1 I don't know. The Academy.

Speaker 1 Oh, is there a Jay-Z? Price Waterhouse Cooperation.

Speaker 10 Jay-Z called out the Recording Academy for Never Giving Beyoncé album of the Year.

Speaker 1 Okay, nice. Nice.

Speaker 4 Big wife guy, him, Kyle Jushek. Yep.
Yep.

Speaker 11 Taylor. It's Kanye, baby.

Speaker 8 It's Kanye.

Speaker 10 Shout out

Speaker 10 Kyle Jusek's wife for Dunkey on Quigs. Yep.

Speaker 1 By the way, stand with her. Is she? yeah, I'm a fan of any full back's wife.

Speaker 4 Quigs is a fucking piece of shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because it's the worst.

Speaker 1 She's not making a jacket, right?

Speaker 4 She can't make a jacket for anybody if they're playing against her husband.

Speaker 10 I think she already has made the jacket.

Speaker 1 Yeah, she's already made it. You can't get it.

Speaker 1 She can make a new one.

Speaker 9 Taylor's not going to wear the same thing twice.

Speaker 8 Right.

Speaker 1 She never does.

Speaker 8 And Kristen can't. Like, you can't make something for her that you know.

Speaker 6 You just can't.

Speaker 4 Was it Kristen? Is it Krista?

Speaker 1 Kristen Yuszek.

Speaker 4 I would wear a Kristen Yuschek jersey. That's how much I like her work.

Speaker 4 Respectfully.

Speaker 10 Would it say the full name?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And it could even have her husband's number on it and be like a 49ers one.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I just want a Kyle Yuscheck jersey. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 11 I feel like that's just whatever.

Speaker 10 Taylor Swift did announce a new album.

Speaker 1 Midnight. Boo-boo-boo-boo-boo.

Speaker 4 Wait, a new album or is it a cover of Roles?

Speaker 1 I don't know. That was like.
Jake, is that you? I was a boop, boop, boop, boy. Oh, who here is fucking pumped for the Super Bowl nerd nugget sound?

Speaker 1 I'm pumped. I'm pumped too.
I'm pumped. Big dude.

Speaker 1 I'll say I'm pumped.

Speaker 4 I'm so pumped.

Speaker 1 Well, we're not wearing headphones in this studio, so I can deal with it.

Speaker 1 I'll be pumped. I'm very pumped.

Speaker 6 It's usually the headphones.

Speaker 10 Taylor Swift announced new. Wait, I just said that.
Yep.

Speaker 10 It's called The Tortured Poets Department and is releasing on April 19th.

Speaker 1 Okay, cool.

Speaker 10 There's a couple of good ones.

Speaker 8 There's a new music for once.

Speaker 1 There's a couple of memes ones that are thrown in here. Okay.
Use the memes ones.

Speaker 10 Ozempic is a problem. Okay.

Speaker 10 Because Lainey Wilson, is that her name? Used to have a fat ass.

Speaker 1 Now she does not have a fat ass.

Speaker 1 Okay. Brother List Backup Boy.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 1 Oprah Wood. That's Open.

Speaker 1 Okay. Oprah looked good.
You have.

Speaker 4 Why is that problematic?

Speaker 6 Just why?

Speaker 1 Okay, Hank. Keep going.

Speaker 1 Piece it all together.

Speaker 1 He's saying that Oprah started the fires in Maui. Oh, you said that.
No, no, that's what you're saying. That's what you're getting to.
You said that. Okay.

Speaker 1 I love when Hank gets just little pieces of news. He never actually can piece it all together, but he's just like, Oprah, problem, fires.

Speaker 1 Okay, what else? I think that's it. Okay.

Speaker 1 That was a great job. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You got one of these?

Speaker 4 Stevie Wonderblind.

Speaker 1 Confirmed.

Speaker 1 Confirmed. Confirmed.
How?

Speaker 1 He presented an award to Mariah Carey this weekend, and she walked up, and he

Speaker 1 left his hand shaking. Ah, so Stevie Wonder confirmed that.

Speaker 4 I still have seen a video. I've seen a video where he catches a mic stand as it's falling over.
I've seen that. You can feel that.
He waved hi to Shaq one time. He said, hi, Shaq.

Speaker 1 Stevie Wonder's the best.

Speaker 1 I saw him once in a concert. It was one of the best concerts I've ever seen.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Songs in the Key of Life will change your life. Yes.
Listen to that album. Yes.
All right.

Speaker 1 Well, good job, boys.

Speaker 1 Great show. We have something special for the lottery ball this week.
We have the Schwamm picking a ball every single episode because he was in the office on Friday.

Speaker 1 Wednesday, we have the Schwamm on the show, and we might have someone sitting in Hank's chair to start the show,

Speaker 1 which I think AWLs will be very excited for. It's Super Bowl week.
We're going to go all out for the AWS Super Bowl week, so let's kick it to ourselves back in our studio.

Speaker 8 I'm sorry for farting.

Speaker 1 No, you aren't. I am.

Speaker 11 I'm embarrassed.

Speaker 1 Okay, we're going to wrap up the show.

Speaker 1 We have a special guest on Wednesday. You can see him right now sitting on the couch.
Great interview, as always. A Super Bowl tradition with the Schwamm.

Speaker 1 And we figured, why not have the Schwamm guest numbers with us all week? So every single show this week, we'll end with the Schwamm numbers. We'll let you go first.
So I can pick how many.

Speaker 1 One number. One number.
If you get one of these this week. And this is a tease for the Wednesday show.
Yeah, this is a tease for the Wednesday show. Can't tell you why.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 22. 22.
Okay, I like that.

Speaker 4 I'll go 8.

Speaker 1 I'll go 71.

Speaker 1 40 for Hank. 3.
3 for Memes. 18 for Jake.

Speaker 1 Shane? 21. 21 for

Speaker 1 Shane.

Speaker 4 If you get this, I think we have to retire the ball. Yeah.

Speaker 12 Look at this thing.

Speaker 1 I'm not allowed to look.

Speaker 1 56.

Speaker 1 56. So no one was even within 20.
Nope.

Speaker 1 Nope. That happens a lot.
Okay.

Speaker 4 Love you guys.

Speaker 4 We're going

Speaker 4 away.

Speaker 4 I don't know what I'm about to say. I'd say anyway.

Speaker 4 Today's a marvel date to find you shining away.

Speaker 4 Oh, I'll be coming for your love, okay.

Speaker 4 Your love, okay.

Speaker 4 gone,

Speaker 4 check,

Speaker 4 change.

Speaker 4 Needless to say,

Speaker 4 I'm on the sentence,

Speaker 4 but he's throwing away.

Speaker 4 Further than life is okay,

Speaker 4 stay after me.

Speaker 4 It's no better to be safe and sorry to be safe and sorry to be safe and sorry

Speaker 4 to sorry

Speaker 4 Save

Speaker 4 on me

Speaker 4 Take

Speaker 4 me

Speaker 4 up

Speaker 4 I'll be gone

Speaker 4 when I drop

Speaker 4 to dark

Speaker 4 I'll be

Speaker 4 gone

Speaker 4 with a day up, to day off, to day up to day.