Jameis Winston, The Bears And Commanders Are On A Crash Course To Trade, Super Bowl Week And More

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On today's Pardon My Take, Jameis Winston. We got him.
He came to the office for a full day. We've been sitting on it for about three weeks now, just waiting for this interview to come out.
It was everything we wanted and more. I love Jameis.
It was the best. I love Jameis.
A little bit of something for everybody in this interview. Yes.
Yes. So incredible interview to kick off Super Bowl week.
We are here in Las Vegas. We're going to do who's back the week.
We're going to talk about Cliff Kingsbury to the commanders. We're going to talk about Max being the grossest person in the world to sit next to an airplane and then at the end of the show uh because it's the first monday that we've had

without uh football to talk about we will have max and memes recap the grammys so they're they're

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Okay, let's go. Boys! Boys! Now in the street there is violence And a lot there's lots of work to be done.

No place to hang out or wash in, and then I can't blame all on the sun.

Oh no, we're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue, and then we'll take it higher.

Oh, we're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue. It's part of my take there's an about martial sports welcome to part of my take today is monday february 5th and boys james winston episode very excited about this james is the best he's the best he hung out for about, like, what, four hours? Longer than that.
At the social office. Maybe longer than that.
We played some basketball with him. He put us through some drills.
We got some videos coming. PM TV coming out on Thursday.
He ate some meals with Donnie, I believe. It was the hardest thing to have to sit on this interview because he came three weeks ago.
And we knew that, like, if we showed that he was in the office, people would the office people like we want the interview right now which totally understand because i wanted to post the interview right away we're like super bowl week another white whale checked off the list we did not sing standing on the corner to him that was the only regret i had sorry yeah i mean big cats right we've sat on a lot of really hard stuff, and this was definitely the hardest and the longest we've had to sit on something. Yes.
Yes. You get it, Hank? It was a sex joke.
Dicted it, sex? A sex problem? But it's an awesome interview. So get excited.
It's going to be great. We got some stuff we got to talk about before.
We do. What do we want to do first? Well, we can let the speculation begin.
Okay.'s talk about this cliff kingsbury to the commanders so per adam schafter let the speculation begin cliff kingsbury coached caleb williams last season williams was a standout quarterback at gonzaga high school in dc the commanders currently hold the number two overall pick and are in striking distance so per adam schafter let the speculation begin scary statement I'm going to speculate hard i'm gonna theorize i'm gonna postulate all over the place i'm gonna oh my god i'm gonna contemplate and it's gonna be great and the fact of the matter is that this is a trade that could happen between the commanders and the bears which could tear this podcast apart that's one thing that definitely could happen and hank's very happy about that it'd be a lot more vacation time for you hank um it's also a good possibility that given the draft history and the trade history that we both have in our franchises past we might both fuck this up well i would say i would make the uh guess right now that the commanders have already fucked this up because no one has overplayed their hand more than the commanders have already overplayed their hand. They had Cale Williams dad given being a source to Colin Coward earlier in the week retracted.
But at first he was like, I'm hearing out of Cale Williams camp. He doesn't want to play in Chicago.
You think the commanders told him to do that? No, no. I think Cale Williams probably wants to play.
I'm play i'm saying caleb williams dad overplayed that hand got it then they got cliff kingsbury overplaying that hand where you get the connection it's very clear that they want caleb williams so i'm fine with trading the number one pick for all of the picks okay so i want all of the picks you guys have overplayed your hand to the point where it's like obvious that you're lusting for this guy i am and that's a bad spot to be in a negotiation three months out okay so i've got the draft value chart right here uh per jimmy johnson i agree throw it out because we have the second overall you guys can basically because if you're not going to take caleb one you can take whoever you're going to take anyways it too right fuck the the draft value chart i i wrote down a few things that i would like uh and we can start in the negotiation okay uh no one terry mclaurin no uh the pick back for montez sweat no uh i want the commander's new name to be the junior bears and i also yeah yeah that would be i'm into the junior bears like oh that's the cubs no i want junior bears junior bears um and then i want want tyrese maxey on the bulls okay yeah i'm gonna authorize starting my negotiation okay i'm gonna authorize tyrese maxey and the junior bears i did hear there was it was very funny the um ben johnson fallout was a big time he said he said situation where ben johnson claimed there was reports that ben johnson thought they were too much they weren't football guys they were too much basketball guys and then the commanders were like he didn't he he didn't interview well and wanted too much money yeah and everyone's finger pointing uh but i like the idea that he walked in and was like it smells like basketball in here i don't like this so i i will authorize tyrese maxey okay on on behalf of josh har. That's fine.
We'll trade him. I would take Joel Embiid, but he's hurt.
We'll throw him in. He's hurt.
I don't want him. He could be a nice piece.
Yeah. So we'll do both of those.
And then I'm also looking through, who do you want from the Devils? The guy who Frank said he broke his neck. Jack Hughes.
Jack Hughes? Yeah, I'll take Jack Hughes. We'll give you Jack Hughes and Tyrese Maxey.
And we'll toss in Joel Embiid. And I would be willing to.
And the first pick, by the way, the first pick in the draft for the next three years. I would be willing to also throw in the Montez Sweat pick.
Because that's a nice humiliation thing where it's like, oh, we gave you this pick. Actually, no, we got him for free.
I'm going to give you a second overall pick. No to Terry McLclorn the next year i will authorize after that's first the second round pick which really all by the draft value chart all the commanders would need to do by this since we do have the second pick it would actually be an overpay if we just threw in pick 34 well guess what you're overpaying you're overpaying because you guys have made it very clear you want kaleb williams and that was the dumb you can do.
Now, what if hypothetically there was a guy by the name of Eli Manning that got drafted a while ago? You remember him? Yeah. So Eli, he actually got drafted by the Chargers, which is crazy.
And then he went up there, took a picture, did the whole thing. And then his dad told the Chargers, he's not going to play down in San Diego.
We're going to have to work some sort of trade out here now what if k williams dad who seems to also have no problems going in front of the press what if he says to the bears my son's not going to play what's kail Williams dad's name i'm i'm not sure what's his last name williams oh so it's not manning his first name okay so then we can just throw that out okay because the i mean archie manning is he's the shadow commissioner that's why that happened that's a fact and the last time the other time was john elway because he's gonna play for the yankees is caleb williams gonna go play for the yankees he might okay well maybe he should start throwing some baseball learn baseball buddy that would actually be great if somehow they got in touch with the learners and they said hey um we need the nationals to also draft caleb we know that he's not a baseball player, but just draft him. Listen, it's going to be an interesting couple months of speculation.
I just know that the hand has been overplayed by the commanders as quickly as it could possibly. I will overplay them.
If there's anything you know about me, it's that I overplay every hand that I have. Yeah.
So I'm happy to deal with this one. And on top of all that, a certain friend of the program who sometimes shares thoughts with Henry Lockwood has said that he actually thinks Drake May might be the better quarterback.
Interesting. He's been getting in my ear about that.
Who's this guy? I don't know. He's got a dog avatar.
He looks like Hank. Oh, so basically Hank.
He's a Bears fan. Now, I am.
Great takes. Yeah, great takes.
Great takes. I am a little concerned about having a quarterback named Caleb, potentially.
Quarterbacks named Caleb, they're funny guys, and they're good glue guys. You want morale.
If you want a supervisor of morale, if you want them to interview your other star players with their fat friend in the podcast with them, I think that would be great. But I don't know about a quarterback named Caleb.
Well, just go with the UNC quarterback. quarterback yeah would you rather have a quarterback named Caleb or a quarterback that went to UNC that was kind of awkward that Drake May and Sam Howell were sitting next to each other at the Duke UNC game and Drake is a joke by the way Duke is done Drake May is so much taller yeah Duke is done forever yeah they're a joke I watched that game for the first half I was like it's a joke they're a joke so well if you want Terry McLaurin I said no once for the first half.
I was like, it's a joke. They're a joke.
So, Big Ed, if you want Terry McLaurin.

I said no.

Wouldn't you want Marvin Harrison Jr.

And then you have a great wide receiver quarterback.

Stay out of this.

I'm just asking.

That's a good question, Hank.

Because if you're trading the number one overall pick,

then I would assume that you would not want to take that guy first overall.

You could still get whoever you wanted with the second overall pick. Yeah, I want Terry McLaurin.
as many weapons i i want everything we're gonna get everything weapons for just no for whoever we take number two got it who might be the better quarterback this is just gonna be according to tom fornelly it's it's not gonna be good for the podcast no it's not but but maybe it's gonna be great hank's just looking for anybody else to take heat today because he's a little bit nervous about his special little show that's coming up on tuesday and i understand that but be honest for a second like if the commanders do trade for ko williams they are gonna have to overpay at this point they have overplayed their hand like it's the one the one thing that happens with drafts is if it's very obvious one team wants some guy and worse than the bears are sitting there at one like yeah okay now you have to pay a ton for it and you know what like it's not going to be a regular like i'm expecting unless he does pull an eli manning i am expecting a little bit of an overpay eli manning was a manning right they manning's run everything i mean caleb williams was asking people for like equity in the in in the team those were those were ML football accounts. I give, Caleb Williams was asking people for equity in the team.
Those were ML football accounts. If Caleb Williams gets drafted one overall by the Bears, he's going to be playing for the Bears.
Okay. It's a possibility that he might not, though.
That's all I'm saying. How? It's a possibility.
What? Doing what? Just sitting out? I just don't see... It just doesn't make sense.
It's probably not going to happen. It's a lot of money.
But it could. And in terms of an overpay, yeah, there's going to be an overpay there because, number one, Caleb Williams, he's been projected for the last, like, three years as being this franchise-changing quarterback.
So there will be a little bit of an overpay built into it. But at least knowing that we've got high picks in the second round, we have the Montez Sweat pick.
I still long as it's not like multiple firsts oh i need at least two first i've heard on i've heard on shows before people talk about like if you could you know there was no salary capper you could start uh yeah speculating tomorrow speculate for you take patrick mahomes first and do whatever it takes to get patrick mahomes because he's that much more valuable to your franchise. Yeah.

So don't you think it'd be worth it if you could get a guy like that?

Yeah, I'd say you have to pay a lot. I'd say if we're getting a top five quarterback or a guy that would

evolve into a top five quarterback in the NFL, I would say that a

little bit of an overpayment is actually an underpayment.

All the picks.

So on every pick for the rest of the time.

So we're going to have a pixel or all the picks for the rest of the time. I take all the picks for the rest of the time.
All the picks for the rest of the time. Got it.
That's how I'd negotiate. Commander Caleb.
It might happen. I don't know.
It is weird how Cliff, he was going to be the OC for the Raiders. And that seemed like it was a done deal.
And then he backed out of that the last second. And next thing you know, he's going to DC.
It's almost like he knew something was in order so i would imagine that something is cooking more logical thing is the commanders are desperate to try to get caleb williams they're like we got to get cliff kingsbury and overpay for him wouldn't that be more than you'll hack it wouldn't that be more logical i mean you're thinking about it only that benefits you wouldn't it also be logical that the commanders are like we need to figure out a way to get Caleb Williams let's pay Cliff Kingsbury a ton of money to come here yeah which came first chicken or the egg I don't know no I don't think anybody knows what happened but I would assume that either we overpay Cliff like a motherfucker which we probably don't need to do because he's still collecting that fat check from the cardinals right the one where he said he was going to go live in Thailand for like nine years um so i don't know if we're overpaying we might be but if we're not then i i have to think that he had it in the back of his head that something's going to go down in dc that's not going to go down in vegas yeah i just don't think anything has been decided yet so i don't know how like josh i mean he's a basketball guy so he probably doesn't know how football is all speculation and it's all we're all we're just speculating. Adam Schefter told us to let the speculation begin.
This is all pure speculation, but I do know that I would be very happy with Caleb Williams. He would make my little heart grow three sizes that day.
You have to pay a lot for him. A lot.
A lot. He's probably going to suck anyway.
We'll keep this going. Man, imagine that.
Then we got Cliff, hot young offense coordinator usc was awesome this year with cliff right leader of men usc was awesome this year with cliff caleb was pretty good notre dame game you could play this game i'm basically taking everything that people all the justin field stands use against me when i say i want caleb williams and i'm just going to weaponize it back at you i've never people say like oh the notre dame game like, I don't give a fuck about one game in college. I've never, never once said anything bad about Cliff Kingsbury.
Don't look it up. But whatever it takes.
And I would be very, very happy and very excited for a breath of fresh air with Washington football if that happened. Okay.
Other things. We're in Vegas.
It's Super Bowl. Someone told me that I say soup bowl on Twitter.

Do I say soup bowl?

I think I say Super Bowl correctly.

Soup or bowl?

I say soup.

I don't know if I'm going to find the tweet.

It was a very odd thing.

I don't think I've ever.

Now I'm like very.

By the way.

He said, can you please stop saying soup bowl?

It's two syllables.

Super Bowl.

You like your soup.

We get it.

Maybe he's talking to you. But Jesus Christ, you talk on the the air for a living learn to say simple english words for fuck's sake no we won't i'm pretty sure i say super bowl super bowl it's a pretty easy thing to say super bowl oh yeah that's right so big game so the the legal rumors are true you do get sued every time you say Superbowl without the NFL,

without Roger Goodell coming over and signing it in blood.

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I'm starting to think about switching to the 49ers. Join me.
I'm getting the thoughts in my head. So I i i put in the biggest bet of my life on the 49ers and i feel i feel like we can stop patrick mahomes yeah see i say this every time we can be the ones to do it and i we have chris berman coming on on wednesday and we we talked it out a little bit about just how stupid you feel when you lose money going against Patrick Mahomes.
The last time I bet on Patrick Mahomes in a playoff game, I believe, was the soup bowl against the box. So I might be screwed no matter which door I choose.
Listen, we can do it together. This is it.
This is like, okay, Josh couldn't do it. Lamar can't do it.
We can do this. We can be the ones to stop him.
Hank, you're thinking of it too. Yeah, do it, Hank.
Yeah, I already put the bet in and I can't cash out in Vegas, so I will be taking everything in and making a decision on Sunday morning. Okay.
Okay. Yeah.
I mean, this would be us against Patrick Mahomes and Taylor Swift. And we are really good at disappointing women, and we have an opportunity to disappoint like a billion of them at the same time by the Chiefs losing this game.
Okay. Well, story developing.
Story developing. Let the speculation begin.
Let the speculation begin. What side we're going to.
I'm sure everyone was dying to know what side we're going to bet on as a podcast. Well, there's.
I think it's like 75 percent of the money and the bets have come in on the chiefs yeah that was like that was just me just hammering the chiefs right after the ravens loss but yeah it's it we'll see well story developing the other other news we got joe mb officially needs surgery yeah he's got a knee flap yeah knee flap meniscus that's not a good injury so they said unknown timetable for recovery. I did check pro football doc Dr.
David Chow's timeline a couple days ago. He said if it's the surgery that we think he needs, it's unlikely he's going to return.
What? Yeah, but it's football. It's football.
Yeah, football guy, not a basketball guy. Josh Harris would be able to tell you when he's coming back.
So he might not. When could he earliest he earliest return well it has to be before the conference finals right because he's not gonna be in the conference finals it'd probably be after they played yokich right um let me see max how you feeling about this i don't know i'm all over the place okay wow what else is going on should we just talk about the other thing no no i'm sorry i want to to update this here.
He said recovery could easily leak into playoffs. So he could be back at some point.
I think he'll be back. I think he'll be back.
But now it's worried about getting there. Without him beating.
I mean, Maxie doesn't have to score 50 every day. Maybe he's the one who's keeping you from getting to the conference finals.
Yeah, belt to ASTOR continues. Yeah, and Pat Pev.
All right, let's get to it. Max is on edge for other reasons.
So we flew to Vegas today. Max was coming from New York.
We all flew from Chicago. I had to sit next to, well, let's just say this, PFT.
Let's set the table this way. I had to sit next to what I thought thought was most annoying person to ever sit next to on a plane who's that henry lockwood yeah he was just hitting me and anxious he he like elbowed me when i fell asleep before dramatic before the flight even took off yeah and he took off his he took off his shoes instantly and gross was hitting me was like trying tickle me, was like moving my food around.
Just an annoying pest. He had that annoying energy of like, I'm about to do like this right now because he's about to do his stand up.
So I would say he's the most annoying person to ever sit next to on a plane. So I was trying to talk to you to get some advice and you literally like, don't fucking speak to me.
Yeah. And just put your headphones on and turn.
I was trying to to take a nap so the first time i ever sat next to hank on an airplane we were taking off and this is probably 2016 2017 and i'm sitting next to him and then he just starts puking all over himself yeah and yogurt's coming up he's trying to catch it in his hands it's splattering everywhere and i was like hank what's going on man i get anxious i get anxious on flights and usually i get really high but i didn't get high enough before this flight so i puked my gogurt all over the scene actually so yeah and then facts are adding and then i rode over to the hotel in the same car as hank the first thing hank said was you guys you guys take your shoes off on a flight right yeah and i was like no never i never take my shoes off on a flight was this my living room no we have breaking moose breaking moose adam shefter has got his brain all scrambled he just tweeted chiefs and commanders both have now arrived in las vegas the week of super bowl 58 officially is underway let's go we did it we made him 49ers just not a participant yeah so hank is is not a great flyer, but he was just an annoying pest, but I still love him. He just was touching me too much.
I don't like you being touching me. The shoes off on a flight is a wild move.
Yeah. And I get touched all day.
My kids touch me constantly. I like to sleep on flights.
It's way easier to sleep with my shoes off. I took a shower before the flight.
I put on a fresh pair of clean socks. What's the problem with taking your shoes off? But you have to understand, Hank.
Day to day, I'm constantly in a state of I need a nap so bad. And then someone comes and just hits me in the balls.
Or like, oh, daddy, wake up. And then I got on a plane.
I was like, oh, I can nap. And I had my other kid just fucking smashing me every time I took a nap.
No one wants to see your socks. No one wants to smell your feet on a plane, though.
You can't smell my feet. They're clean socks.
I smell them. They're so bad.
That's a lie. Hank thinks that he's the only person on God's green earth with good smelling feet.
Yeah. Okay.
But so he was the worst person to ever sit next to, right? Apparently not, Big Cat. I'm glad you brought this up.
I got a text because we we were watching the grammys go down here and miley by the way fantastic great job miley great outfits i was taking a picture of the screen and max was standing in front of the screen as i took the picture i tweeted it out and i got a text message from very good friend of mine friend of the program uh diana racini from the athletic so she's a reporter she's a report she actually did report this i complimented her reporting because it was so detailed apparently she sat next to max on the flight she wasn't sure it was max though which i'm gonna i'm gonna ding diana for that for not immediately recognizing max tough to miss guy uh but she said does max live in new york because i sat next to a guy in a plane who was really... Get on the couch.
Get on the couch. Come over here, Max.
I got to read this from the start. Okay.
All right. It's okay.
It's okay. PFT brought this up right before.
Well, she's a reporter. I'm reading a report.
We read Adam Schefter's report. We got Chad, our audio guy.
He's going to make sure you're set. You're screaming in the mic.
You're good. Okay.
PFT brought this up right before. Well, she texted me right before we started.
And he won't tell me what it is. Well, now he's going to tell you.
I know, but now we're just doing it live. Like, this is going to be so bad.
You edit the podcast. That's true.
I ate a burrito. I ate a burrito.
It's good. I've been very anxious for the past couple weeks,

and seeing Max as anxious is actually making me feel a lot better.

Notice that you didn't touch me at all?

Let's get to it.

Let's get to it here.

Stop.

Stop touching me.

I'm excited for Vegas.

Does Max live in?

No, this is like a nightmare.

This is a nightmare.

Okay.

So you sat next to Diana on the plane,

not realizing that you're a gross human being, and now she's reporting on it. Exclusive report from Diana Rossini of The Athletic.
I sat next to a guy in a plane who was really big. Is Max big? Yes.
Confirmed, yes. Haha.
Yeah, he was in New York this weekend. That was me.
She said, he's disgusting. He ate his food on the plane like a monster,

was basically breathing heavy and smelling terrible.

Don't tell him I said it, but I was so grossed out.

Ask him if he sat aisle row.

If so, he farted during his naps.

I was texting with NFL people the entire flight.

He had a chance to see super private convos.

He missed out.

He was sitting right next to me, ripping farts during the nap. And there's one, two, three, four, five, seven Ps on ripping.
He is one of the most disgusting human beings I've ever sat next to. Ask him if he scarfed some burrito sandwich before we took off.
Is that you, Max? You ate a burrito right before you took off? I was really late getting to the airport. This is like...
The fact that we're putting this on the show is bullshit. No, it's not.
Yes, it is. Okay, wait, wait.
You sat next to a reporter. She's reporting.
She goes on. He's definitely single.
But then, cute face, by the way. Oh.
So you have a cute face, Max. And also, no, he's not single.
Oh, man oh he was might be after this he was completely in his own world he smelled of hungover he's also very he's also very unhealthy two sodas he listens to his music way too loudly i'm very concerned about max's overall health he was blasting techno these are all facts all facts. He hasn't disputed anything.
He was farting. Well, obviously, I didn't know about the farting in my sleeve.
Wait, she apologized. To be fair, we were sitting next to the, I mean, the farting, I guess.
Okay. I can't really defend.
But we were sitting directly next to the bathroom, which is the bathroom smells. Yeah, it could have been the bathroom.
She she said i don't want to be mean-spirited thanks we're starting off here diana but i changed poopy diapers six to eight times a day and his fart smelled like my kid's diaper genie oh no i recently read about a guy who got kicked off a plane for farting so much and i texted my husband and said i want this guy kicked off swear to god oh no that's an exclusive report i did not i guess i was sleeping like how are you supposed to know that when you're sleeping like yeah yeah i mean well just maybe don't eat a burrito before you get on a flight so i so this is what happened i woke up at 110 flight i woke up at 11 15 panic absolute panic and it's a five and a half hour flight from from new york no shower oh no literally like who's coming out of your booze coming out it was late night last night and then i so then it would have i would have gone like 14 hours without eating like i needed to get something i go there's a lot lines out the ass for all the food places there was mexican place that was the only place the only one that didn't have a line he's like please don't eat this before you get on a plane correct that i could go get food and may and still make the flight it could have been it was my only it was my only choice and you just ended up with a next reporter then you spent that was your only mistake yeah you spent the whole flight trying to chase whatever you did last night. Listen to techno fart in your dreams away.
Like, oh, my God, I hope that I'm not sitting next to a journalist. Yeah.
Like, how am I supposed to know if I was like, how am I supposed to know that I was farting in my sleep? I was sleeping. Yeah, that's a good point.
It's honestly a valid point. You kept You kept saying like oh you have to know what you did

Like how am I supposed to know that

How am I supposed to know that

She did not say anything about a boner

She's my enemy

We're going to have her on combine

Or you're also my enemy

And you'll get to refute this report

No I'm not refuting anything

So you're saying she deserves like

An award for excellent reporting

You were reading it I was watching his face

Two sodas techno

Thank you. No, I'm not refuting anything.
He has not. So he's saying she deserves like an award.
Yeah, no, no, no. PFT, you were reading it.
I was watching his face. Two sodas, techno, facts.
Everything else is facts. So the farting is facts.
When you're hungover, yes, I had a late night last night. I wanted like a Diet Coke feels good.
Two of them? Well, I also had the Mexican sodas. The Mexican Sos are good.
I fall asleep on every flight. I always, you know...
No, you did this one. You kept me up.
I feel like I'm a creature on flights and one of my biggest fears is I'll wake up after falling asleep for like a five-hour flight and be like, this person next to me is probably texting people and being like, this person is an absolute creature. That's what I had to deal with today with you.
So that's my biggest fear. What happened to you is actually my biggest fear in life.
This is the worst thing that could possibly happen to you. What about the flight crashing? This is worse.
You know what this is? This is karma for Max hoping that we crash our plane. That's true.
This is karma. Hey, Max, I hope you had a really good flight.
Yeah. I hope you had a really good flight

where you didn't fart at all.

Damn.

But, like, I wish that I could,

because I have zero recollection of a single fart.

Like, to my knowledge, I had zero farts.

But if I was sleeping, like, I could have been.

Like, I think the fact that.

The burrito doesn't help the case.

Yeah, the burrito's a whole choice. No, and what what did he correct two sodas yeah a little carbonation in the gut two sodas and you woke up first thing probably a five and a half hour flight let's talk like two sodas not that big you could have used the fart how many times on a football sunday one football sunday how many sodas goes through that gambling well she just said I'm worried about him he's not healthy two sodas yeah what you guys did I've never had two sodas over five hours never five hours one because I don't want to fart you know what Max this might be good though this might just be like a kick in the ass like time to get healthy all right Max fuck off you go back to your seat we'll talk to you for the Grammys I've nothing for the grammys max has been stressed out about this report because she just kept sending it to those sweatpants those farts just fucking escaped though she just kept sending me more and more information about the flight and he was just sweating it also like we were next to the bathroom like where we were where we were sitting yeah it couldn't have been closer why didn't you Why didn't you just go take a shit? I didn't have to shit.
Was it you two in the aisle? No, I was in the aisle. She was in the middle.
Also, middle seat. She can't get a better seat.
Athletic. Fair point.
Fire back. Fire back.
If you're that close, you can feel them. She can probably feel them.
Oh, shit. But the bathroom did smell.
The bathroom, there could have been other smells that were contributing to this. Everyone knows if you sit next to the bathroom on an airport, you're fucked.
We were directly next to it. True.
There was no aisle to the left of us. It was just bathroom.
Max is doing the Fauci right now. It's like, what if this crazy new type of disease that emanated from Wuhan wasn't actually from the lab, but it was from me?

No, I don't.

The farting, I don't.

In the sweatpants.

It does make sense.

Let me smell your sweatpants.

All right, so Max.

The farting does make sense.

Let me smell your sweatpants.

But I do think sitting next to the bathroom definitely contributed to the bad smell. Did you think about getting up to go use the bathroom to fart in the bathroom? Because I've done that before.
Not even once. I didn't have to.
I didn't even know that I had to fart. He didn't have to fart.
He farted in his sleep. To Max's knowledge.
To my knowledge, I didn't have to fart. I didn't have to shit.
I didn't get up to piss or anything. So the jury's out.
Nothing's proven. You know what? He said, she said.
It also could. Maybe she was farting, and she's looking for someone to pin it on, and she's got Max.
He ate a burrito before getting on a five-hour flight. He farted.
Look at him. That's a fart.
He's a walking fart. I kind of want to take Max's side of this and think, maybe she had a very unhealthy breakfast.
No. She was farting this entire time.
And she saw the best scapegoat of all time like this guy's in there i'm gonna read it all on max and if someone goes like to max's point if someone goes takes a huge shit in the bathroom and it opens she's like oh this fat guy next to me yes especially if you got a fat guy next to you farting he's very easy right easy person to pin something like that on all right max well you're dismissed for're dismissed for now. It did feel a little mean at times.
I mean, yeah. Italians, you guys don't look after each other anymore.
Texting their husbands. The fact that...
Look at his pants when he gets up. They're fart pants.
She was having very important text conversations regarding the Eagles, and Max very easily could have seen all the information. I think you could see a fart coming out of there right now.
Okay. Anything else in the sports world that we got to do? Who we got to hit before we get to who's back? I always love big episodes that we have with big interviews, and then we just go completely off the rails, and first-time listeners have to listen to Max's fart escapade.
Like, listen, he doesn't fart that often, guys. I love Max.
Yeah. I'm very glad that Max flew from me.
I had one good day on this show. I had one day on Friday of people.
Oh, yeah, because the baseball video. The baseball video, people were finally giving me compliments compliments and now it's just tomorrow.
You shouldn't have told us that we hope we have a really safe flight. That's really the moral.
That's just honestly terrible luck. I feel I feel people shouldn't be like you can't script getting sat next to a little reporter.
That's a friend of the program. I know it's tough, but also maybe you should have recognized her and not farted a little more formal maybe you could have said hi hello hey i just so you know i'm gonna you literally just said he's like that's my nightmare like yeah but if i was sat next to her i'd be like what's up diana by the way i'm super hungover i just had to eat this burrito i'm really sorry whatever happens i'm gonna be farting there's sometimes where i sit next to people like whatever happens like i apologize if i talk in my sleep because sometimes I talk in my sleep so you can get ahead of it yeah and at least then if she was texting PFT then she's just kind of a scumbag but you should have you should with one hand on the burrito the other hand you shake her hand you're like listen this is gonna be a fart factory in a minute sorry about that that coke please another one I would have simply paid for her upgrade to first class so she didn't have to sit next to me.
Yeah. It's tough.
Or complain. I can't believe I'm sitting next to the bathroom.
It already smells. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Put that in her. Yeah.
That's just a fact. The bathroom did smell.
No, Hank's right. That's literally gaslighting.
The burrito. It'd be like, oh, it smells so bad after that guy walked out of the bathroom, doesn't it? The burrito is the game changer.
If you changer but it was a burrito if she didn't see you have a burrito you would be able to get out of all this but you're in jail you're in fart jail yeah yeah it was pan but it was panic it was like i gotta make this flight i gotta eat something yeah it was you know i mean hank you you know like getting to the airport and you're and you got like 10 minutes until I didn't even have like five minutes until boarding and I needed the Hank. What do you got to eat? I'm telling you, I've done this probably hundreds of times.
I again is just not sitting next to a reporter. That's a friend.
Yeah. What the fuck? How? What are the chance? I've said many times there's people out there that have like texted about me and like the person on next to me on this flight.
Yeah. Because I talk in my sleep and I fall asleep on every flight.
And so I wake up and I'm like, fuck, what was I saying in my sleep? This was actually not going to tell me. And we're going to go on our separate ways.
This is probably the worst person for you to be sat next to literally in the entire world. Like out of seven billion people.
It's fate. Yeah yeah um all right let's do who's back of the week and then we'll talk to max and memes at the end for the grammys who's back the week brought to you by our friends at coors light hanging with friends and family to watch the big game is the best but as the game heats up it can get intense that's why coors light has that signature refreshment to keep you feeling chill.
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My Who's Back of the Week is Shane Gillis. That was mine as well.
Fellow stand-up comedian. Yes.
He will be. Both at the top of your game.
He got announced to the SNL cast, I believe it was five years ago. He got fired from SNL five days later.
And now he has risen to the top, become more and more famous, more and more popular. Now he's been asked to come back and host SNL this Saturday.
It's the best. It's awesome.
And it reminds me of when Norm Macdonald got fired from SNL back in the day. And then a year later, they hired him to come back and host the show he had the best opening joke his monologue ever he said well 12 months ago i was so funny that i wasn't even allowed in the building and now they want me to host the show so either i got way funnier in the past year or now the show just sucks which is like the perfect way to roast him i hope gillis does something like that sure that he will.
He is. He is.
So Shane is a friend of the program. We're going to have him on.
We've almost had him on like seven times, but our scheduling has been screwed up. We actually might try to get him on this week.
If not, he's coming to Chicago in a couple of weeks. He has, though, a little bit of an issue at hand because we oftentimes make bets that we then, you know, like, well, I guess I've never had to cut off my pinky, but someday I might have to.
Shane did say a few years ago that if he ever hosts SNL, he's just going to Bud Dwyer on his monologue. Yes.
You don't know who Bud Dwyer is. Yeah.
It's a politician who shot himself in the, in the head, in the mouth, uh, committed suicide live on, on TV. So he said that he was going to do live from New York, this gun in my mouth.
And then so now people are like, are you going to do it? It would rule. I don't want him to die.
No, I don't want him to die. But it would also rule.
Maybe some great special effects. Yeah.
Put that into place. Either way, it's like the ultimate win.
Like SNL has completely cratered and bottomed out. the the like the crazy cancel like mob went after him in this one little piece of time and flash forward five years and he is the most famous the best comedian going right now and they're like you know what could save our show Shane Gillis I want to know why he agreed to do it because I'm sure he has a reason I'm sure he has something planned for it but if But if I were him, I would be like, fuck you guys.
But he can now say, fuck you guys on their show. Which would be great.
Yeah, which is going to be great. So I'm pumped for him.
Also, 21 Savage, I don't know if you guys saw this last week. Yes.
He was on Aiden Ross's stream and basically got caught cheating. He was cutting cards.
They were doing a card game. Him and one of the guys in his crew basically marked know marked cards so that they could cheat it was on a live stream with a hundred thousand people watching so everyone in the chat was just like he's cheating like he's clearly cheating the chat caught in real time they went through in real time we're like dude these these cars are cut it was like super awkward super viral but now he's gonna be on it too so it's like it's gonna it's it's ripe for jokes it's gonna be probably i to it's it's ripe for jokes.
It's going to be probably I mean, it's going to be one of the biggest SNL. It's going to be the most watched.
I'm going to watch. Yeah, I've watched SNL in years.
It's going to be a funny stand-up show on funny stand-up show Tuesday. Finally here.
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You don't have to. But you should.
But you should. Because honestly, Hank was so, so so good on Wednesday that he's going to crush this and you guys are going to want to see it.
So make sure to buy. I've seen a lot of people being like, this is bullshit.
You're charging $4.99 for this. And I agree.
I agree. Fuck that.
It's bullshit. You were so good.
Well, here's what I'll say. You shouldn't pay us charging you.
They should get you to host SNL. You were so funny.
If we hit a certain amount of pay-per--views i've decided that i'm going to give hank a certain amount of money to play blackjack with in vegas maybe we'll make a video out of it so or just not buy but that's or you could buy it and hank could play some blackjack high stakes blackjack or you can just not buy it or you can just buy it tuesday tuesday i think seven vegas ten think we're going to smash a watermelon. Yeah.
Because Hank called PFT and I today. FaceTime audio to us, which by the way, in the history of the podcast, I don't think we've ever done a three-way FaceTime call.
I was in the middle of packing, panicking, trying to get out. And Hank called us and was like, I'm thinking I was packing and I'm thinking this guitar thing we were going to do.
Like, I don't really know the song that well, so maybe we'll do something else. PFDI texted right after.
Hank just was packing and was like, I don't want to carry a guitar. And so he tried to call us and say, I have this great idea where it doesn't involve a guitar.
You were in the middle of packing. I'm still playing guitar.
No, but the whole thing was like you texted us to be like, I don't really want to pack this guitar. So I'm going to call the guys and be like, hey, what if I just didn't bring the guitar? Yeah.
Well, no, I got off the phone as fast as I was like, whatever, dude, I don't care. You clearly don't want to bring this guitar.
You guys are involved. I wanted to get your approval.
I didn't want you to come and be like, wait a second. What about what we were supposed to originally play? So I was just confirming because I'm diligent.
You were just trying to find an excuse to be like, I don't want to bring this guitar. The real issue is that I was going to have to Uber to PFTs and then get the guitar case and then go to the airport.
No, it's very clear you didn't want to do the guitar. I'm playing guitar.
I'm buying a guitar in Vegas. There's a slipy guitar.
It just might get smashed. Okay.
All right, PFT, you're who's back. My who's back of the week is drug use.
Oh. Performance enhancing drug use.
There's a new Olympics coming out. I don't know if you guys have seen the news about this, but it's an all-steroids Olympics.
Love it. That's going to happen.
It's called the Enhanced Games, right? And it's being developed by Christian Angermayer. These are all like private equity guys that are doing this and Peter Thiel the guy from PayPal and they said just as the Olympic Games were revived and renovated in 1896 for the Victorian world the enhanced games is once again renovating the Olympic model for the 21st century in the era of accelerating technological scientific change, the world needs a sporting event that embraces the future, particularly advances in medical science.
And therefore, they're starting the Olympic Games where every contestant is going to be allowed to dope, which means we're going to get all kinds of crazy records. We have a bunch of freaks running around out there.
The Russians will probably dominate. This is going to be awesome.
Tristan Thompson will be allowed to play basketball. This is going to be awesome.
They have to have a home run derby. Oh, got to do a home run derby.
Have to have a home run derby. Home run derby will be important.
And the guy that they used to make the announcement is a 100-meter sprinter, and he has a time that's faster than Usain Bolt. But they wouldn't count.
He acted like he got canceled from using PEDs, which is very funny. But, yeah, we're going to see some crazy fucking times.
I love it. It's going to be fantastic.
That sounds way better than the regular Olympics. I'm going to watch hard.
We've got a billion. Yeah, we've got a billion.
Okay, my who's back of the week is college basketball in general. We had a great weekend of college basketball, a ton of awesome games.
Everybody lost. Duke sucks.
But in specific, Robbie Avila from Indiana State. Indiana State's really good.
So I noticed this guy probably three or four weeks ago. He's a big dude.
Maybe not the most cut-up guy in the world, but he's good. He's very Indiana.
And he's got rec specs. And he is, if Indiana State gets to the tournament, which they are the best team in the Missouri Valley right now, we could have like this guy could like capture the hearts of America.
Yeah, yeah. He's next.
He's next up for sure. Yeah.
I'm hoping. I actually I got I mean, I love college basketball all year round, but I went to UIC for Southern Illinois with my son on Saturday.
So I was just hoops all day. I saw one person.
I forget who it was. So I'm sorry if I'm not giving you credit on Twitter.
They said that guy's nickname is now Larry Blurred. Oh, because he's got like the foggy goggles.
Yeah. I think Matt Jones also said that people were calling him cream Abdul Jabbar.
Oh, I love that. That one's good too.
Cream Abdul Jabbar. Yeah.
Yeah. So Robbie Avila is going to be he's going to capture the hearts of America.
We need Indiana State to get to the tournament. tournament yes do you know the indiana state uh indiana doesn't play indiana state because they just embarrassed him every time they play him i did not know indiana state i think last time they played him was like 2017 and they won by like 20 damn so indiana's just scared of them the old school indiana state jerseys are so fire too the light blue ones yes those are some of the best sycamores yeah so and indiana basketball is in a bad spot right now i mean i i will admit that a lot of the indiana basketball discourse that i get is through dan doctor's twitter and he's just having a constant meltdown about it and it's it's fun to watch yeah i would say dan dockage is one of my big sources the other big sources i have is big t so i get a heavy dose of tennessee propaganda all the time uh dalton connect is fucking awesome and Ziegler I've liked Ziegler for the last two years because he's a short king like myself yeah I like I like the volunteers volunteers and Cougars those are my two teams you I mean UConn keeps winning they just went down stores south dominated uh at MSG it was a great weekend of college basketball Villanova got another big win and Purdue beat Wisconsin I'll admit that Purdue's very good Zachy he's just too tall I'm sick I I go back and forth of college basketball villanova got another big win and purdue beat wisconsin i'll admit that purdue's very good zach edie's just too tall i'm sick i i i go back and forth because college basketball to me is a lot of like hating guys year over year it obviously has changed in the past like 15 years so i hate zach edie but i also respect the fact that he's been around long enough that i've gotten my hate up to such a great level yeah yeah it's like's like it's nice it is nice yeah for sure like banging my fist being like this fucking guy is too tall yeah like having 39 year olds such as ourselves developing these intense rivalries with 18 19 well zach edie's like 28 he's pretty old yeah he's he's so big and when he moves it does it i always say it does look like there's somebody inside of him controlling his limbs with levers.

Yeah.

Like a big brain inside of his chest being like, okay, move your right hand now.

Move your left hand now.

Also, Baylor, whoever made their new arena, which looks sick, I don't know how they fucked up the camera angle.

It's basically the nosebleeds.

I've never seen it.

I just don't understand how they could do that.

They made a new arena, and they just forgot that they have to televise these games. Make it easy on TV.
Vandy's like that, too. Vandy's a weird arena.
Washington as well. Okay.
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And now here's Jameis Winston. Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest.
It's been a long time coming. It is Heisman Trophy winner, national champion, pro bowler, and also just one of the best teammates ever that's our guess but I think we'll find that through this interview it's Jameis Winston Jameis thank you for coming here we appreciate it you flew to Chicago to come on this show so first of all thank you because we wanted to have you on for a very long time and this is a thrill for us to have you in studio.
No, I'm grateful to be in y'all presence. I mean, I've heard – the very first time I heard about part of my tape was Ryan Griffin, who was a quarterback with me in Tampa.
And he always told me, like, hey, Dan loves you. Like, PFT, like, they're all pulling for you.
So I'm just grateful to be here in this beautiful studio, man. And I just got so much respect for what y'all are doing and the audience that you're inspiring and influencing.
So it's an honor. I love it.
I love it. And also just for people who are listening, if we don't know what the Super Bowl is yet because we're taping this in mid to late January, we're going to run it Super Bowl week.
So if we make a statement about one of the teams, then it's like, what are you guys talking about? That's the context behind it. But yes, thank you for being here.
I don't even know where, I mean, there's so much stuff I want to talk about. There's a lot.
Just like, how are you feeling right now? How's the health? Oh, yeah. So I know that you had the vertebrae issues, you had some tendons going on.
So how are you doing? Yeah, I'm healing. I think that's like one of the biggest things that me and Nadia talk about this offseason because it's been three years in a row where I've been injured.
I've been not where I want to be heading to the offseason. So a lot of other people like PTs and athletic trainers, they have most of my schedule because I'm doing rehab.
I have to be at this location for an extended period of time just to really do the due diligence of the process of healing. Yeah.
So I'm very excited and grateful that I get to attack this offseason healthier and be able to grow. Yeah, you were playing with back fracture at one point.
Yeah. That's incredible.
Was there even a doubt that you were like, I'm still playing, like I got to get out there with my guys? Well, I believe it's always that warrior mentality. Like once you get in between the lines, I think a lot of players deal with so much that it's just second nature just to go out there and battle and go out there and give your all because we all know that these opportunities don't last.
Right. So I would rather risk everything for my brothers and be out there and take advantage of the opportunity that I have than to be just not doing it just because of a little pain.
Yeah. And I think that's just a credit to really all the athletic trainers and the doctors that help get you back on the field yeah there's also a credit credit to the mental toughness that these guys have day in and day out well that's I mean our theory is you're one of the best teammates from everyone we've talked to obviously the end of the season um you you know made some headlines with the the last game and Jamal Williams did it feel good though seeing all your teammates coming to your back because it was like tweet after tweet and people commenting being like, we ride for Jameis.
Like this was a team decision. We love our guy.
It had to feel pretty good. Like seeing that.
Yeah. You know, it, it was, uh, I was grateful that my, my boys, they rode with me, but like, they, they see me every single day.
They, they know the intent of my heart, you know? And I, I went in approach, you know, of the higher-ups in the organization just to get their perspective and talk to them about it and uh you know they really handled it really well you know having conversations with them because again they know my intent you know they see me working with the practice squad receivers on off days you know to ensure uh that they're going to be prepared if their numbers call they see me working with the young dbs you know know, making sure that they know how the quarterbacks on the other team or the offensive coordinator is trying to attack them in certain situations. So I think they know the intent of my heart.
So when you are in a building with guys and you are battling with them and you go through a full season with guys, when you have an opportunity like that, I feel like that was one of the most unique opportunities that really the NFL has ever seen. Yeah.
When you get. Ball at the one.
The ball at the one yard line with the significance of your team and a brother that you are looking for. And that's just what I am.
I'm all in on increasing the people that's around me. So when we have that opportunity, it's never out of out of disrespect.
It's never out of, you know, strife. It's out of like, man, this is love.
It's a trust and commitment that I have with my brothers. And I'm so grateful that we were able to just continue to show how connected we were as a team through any type of adversity because we wanted to focus on the win.
That was a great win to finish the season because we were playing for a lot. That was a playoff game in our eyes because we didn't know what our future, you know, held after that.
Yeah, and credit to you, by the way, for that reporter who you handled that well. When you're like, no disrespect, you guys got a little no disrespect off because he kept on being like, I thought it was disrespectful.
It's like, well, I didn't. Well, you always – you got to respect, you know, people's perspective.
Like, that's just how I was raised. Like, I'm going to respect any perspective that you're coming off from.
But I know – like, I know what my intent was. And I think, like, sometimes we are so conditioned, really conditioned by facts, circumstances, and situations that we're like, it's out of tradition for that to happen.
It's out of tradition for you to run a play out of victory. And I do believe, like, that was the biggest – that was probably the largest thing about us running a play out of victory.
And I think it's behind us, but I believe, like, if I would do anything, I would tell the guys, like, hey, we probably wouldn't do it out of victory yeah line up regular yeah line up regular but but the thing about the play is we are now having a conversation in the huddle and the defense knew right like uh my right guard like they asked us are you taking the knee my right guard sees he's like we're not taking the knee like they knew like so they were prepared it wasn't just like okay they're not even getting in their stances uh but at the end of the day um i'm a i'm a forward thinker and we have to put that behind us and keep going but i'm grateful that i got a chance to address that man because not a lot of people understand again the longevity of a season the work that it goes into especially when you got a guy that led the league in touchdowns, 17 touchdowns last year with one team in his first year. He's making a, you know, a change in his life.
This is his first time, you know, being able to get in the end zone. So that feeling of, again, trust and commitment as brothers was amazing.
Yeah, it was great to watch. And yeah, as Big Cat said, your teammates all had your back afterwards.
They were like, it was a team decision. We did it for the right reasons.
I think when people ask you about it, they try to make you feel bad about the decision, but I know that you did it because the things you asked Jamal Williams to do this year that he's not used to doing and he did it as a good teammate. I think you said it best.
There was a video that went viral the other day. You said, King the man.
Right? So that's what you're doing. You're trying to help out your teammates.
So you're looking forward and you got a big off season, Farney. I know that you love New Orleans.
Yeah. You are, you've become like a New Orleans guy.
Are you planning on staying in New Orleans? Are you planning on spreading your wings, going somewhere else, seeing what the market has to offer you? The biggest thing about my love for New Orleans is this is, I feel like the first city that truly embraced me, you know, just my, just who I am, what I stand for, how I move. And I think it's just like the South, like that Southern hospitality.
I'm from Alabama. So grew up watching Drew Brees, you know, grew up watching Aaron Brooks, you know, the early years of the Saints and just saw how they grew.

So when I was able to get thrown into this environment, I was like, man, I had so much gratitude to be here because I am five hours from home. You know, my wife's her dad's side of the family is from New Orleans.
And so I instantly felt a connection with this city and the way that they represent their guys, the way that they bring culture. It's a different country.
You go to New Orleans, it's a different country. It's the coolest thing in the world because it's unlike any other place in America.
It really is. We were talking about Bourbon Street earlier.
You're like, man, where yeah you know uh but in terms of this off season uh i feel like i've played every role that a quarterback can play yeah uh with the new orleans saints you know i've been a starter you know uh i've been a backup you know i've been someone to to help you know bring up some of the the young bucks you know i'm very intentional with everything that I do. So wherever I'm at, obviously my main goal is to be a strong quarterback in this league.
And when that opportunity presents itself, that will be what takes me away from any place because that's my dream. That's my goal.
My dream and my passion is to win a Super Bowl, lead a team to the Super Bowl in any way, any shape or form. So I'm definitely able to do those things, you know, from a behind the scenes perspective.
But I think just the. The hunger of a competitor.
Yeah. Wants to be out there in between those lines, wants to be out there having an opportunity and doing his best to lead his team to the promised land.
The Bible talks about Moses and Aaron. Aaron was a great brother for Moses but Moses is who gets the stories.
He's the starting quarterback. He is the prophet that they listened to a great help you know and he he lived according to his purpose but i want to be you know i want to have that level of significance yeah you know and everyone has their own story everyone has their own calling to purpose but it's different when you're that guy yeah you know if moses was him yeah if you have two moses's you don't have one yeah you know moses was that dude yeah yeah that's one of one um all right so a story that maybe gets misconstrued so I want to hear it from you uh before you got LASIK were you playing quarterback blind because that was when it was when it came out that you got LASIK and you're like now I can read license plates and now I can do all this like hold on was Jameis actually actually like the greatest quarterback ever because he couldn't see and he was still putting up crazy numbers? Yeah.
Well, I had astigmatism, right? But my vision wasn't – I wasn't blind. You know, I was like – I think I was like 60-20 in my right eye and I was like 40-20 in my left eye.
So I wasn I wasn't blind right um and that's why like in college everybody used to give me for the squinting yeah but I was squinting all way in high school you know and this was like my sophomore year where I had to go and get a prescription for reading glasses you know my vision my vision went bad but I was having these migraines and pinkies was going on and you know we went to the doctor and they was like well you know it's because you're straining with your eyes i was like what do you mean i'm straining my eyes you know because i could see very far away but when things got up close like it was it was tough so reading and like studying like i would get migraines and it would be very bad so i think that's where when i got to the bucks i was like i was coming on my fifth year option and i was like man if i can do anything to enhance my ability or grow just a little bit if having perfect vision is the thing that's limiting me from that i'm gonna go get basic you know and then i did the research about you know how i last for like 25 years and you just gotta go and keep getting getting, I was like, 25 years, like my interfered career, I'll probably be, you know, a GM by the end, you know, so this is worth it. Yeah.
Could you notice the difference right away? Instantly. Yeah.
Like, man, like when I was up under the name, it was kind of, it was kind of weird because, you know, I didn't feel it, but I could smell my eyeball burning. Oh, gee.
You know know what I'm saying? Like, they did it with a laser. Like, I could smell.
Like, no one has ever smelt burnt eyeballs. You know what I'm saying? So, like, you can only imagine, like, that type of, you know, smell that is.
So, when I smelled, when I got up, you know, the doctor, you know, anytime you wake up and the doctor is smiling, like, and he has his mask on, but I can see a smile yeah he's like i've done this this amazing work yeah you know and i was like i can see clearly now the rain is gone you know what i'm saying like i was just like like this is amazing like it cured jamis winston's eyes it's the funny part yeah the funny part is like i had to wear you know pft shades yeah you know for the first six weeks yeah really first three days yeah i had these bifocals on and the old people glasses yeah they're like blind people glasses it's always good to see a doctor like celebrating after a surgery yeah you're like okay that's confidence yeah that went well yeah like that's world class i know the job was done yeah yeah the first time you stepped on a field after the surgery were you like this is this is a lot easier? Well, the depth perception was the biggest thing. You know, I didn't even realize, like, because my whole thing, like, I can see, obviously I can see big figures, like, coming at me and, like, reading coverage and just seeing how.
And that's more mental with pre-snap reads and just seeing the rotation and things of that nature. But I just feel like the depth of a linebacker, like eight yards and 12 yards, is completely different.
And when you're able to identify and confirm that someone is dropping at a shorter depth than really sinking back, you're able to trust that throw and confirm it and let it rip. Versus when you're just dropping back and you're just like, I feel the rotation.
I feel the depth. But I trust in my arm more than I trust in and can confirm the depth of a linebacker dropping or the width that a safety is getting.
Now it's just like, it's no second guess. It's no, like I said, no second guessing.
It's just trust and confirm and let it rip. That was the biggest improvement.
When you played for Coach Arians, we've had him on the show a couple times. Great dude.
I think he might be the one person in the world that loves the deep ball as much as you do. You guys both just love to air the ball out.
What was that like learning from him? Because he's been called quarterback whisperer, but also his offense is weird where in your first year in a system with him, a lot of times there's so many options that the receivers have that it takes a little bit to get on the same page. But what was it like working with Coach Arians? Yeah, it was an amazing experience working with him because he was actually the first person that gave me this vision of being a Super Bowl winning champion quarterback.
He used to have these camps in Birmingham, Alabama that Nadia's husband, Otis, my trainer right now, Otis

Leverett, used to put on at this place called Sports Blast.

And I went there two years in a row and I won an MVP, you know, and he would show me

his ring and he would let me know, like, hey, you're going to be a great quarterback in

the NFL one day.

And I was like, hey, coach, I appreciate you.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, you a freaking officer coordinator for, at that time, Mr. Pittsburgh Steelers that

he won it with.

And I was like, man, I'm grateful, grateful for that.

So when he gets – You know what I'm saying? Like, you a freaking officer coordinator for, at that time, Mr. Pittsburgh Steelers that he wanted with.

And I was like, man, I'm grateful.

Grateful for that.

So, when he got into Tampa, I was like, okay, this is it.

Like, this is who I've been molded to play for.

You know what I'm saying?

He's the one that gave me this vision.

So, I just think his perspective of really just making the defense stop you.

Like, not surrendering to what you're getting, but like, hey, we're going to attack you. Because that's what the defense does.
Well, the defense are reactors, but when they blitz, that's a form of attacking. Right.
You know what I'm saying? So his philosophy is like, we're going to make the defense have to stop us. We're not going to focus on what they're doing and make our offense built off of what they're doing.
But I really spent a lot of time with Clyde Christensen and Byron Leftwich. So I feel like B.A.
was in that role where, you know, he's bringing the mentality. He's bringing the system.
But, man, Byron, he really did his thing, you know, in terms of just calling plays, in terms of like he was the coordinator, running meetings. Like, so being able to not only get coached by someone that was – who I had on a high pillar, you know, that inspired me, but seeing a quarterback who's played in this league who was coached by B.A., you know what I'm saying, who I admire.
Like, everyone, when you think about Byron Lefferts, you think about the courageous drive he had yeah and marshall with a broke leg yeah you know so it was you play for bigger like you can never play bigger than yourself but with emotions and mentality you always have like you're looking for a certain edge like why do i want to fight for this guy i'm gonna fight for byron because byron played this position yeah byron has been in my shoes you know i'm saying Like he knows exactly how I feel. You know, why do you want to fight for this guy? I'm going to fight for Byron because Byron played this position.
Byron has been in my shoes. He knows exactly how I feel.
Why do you want to fight for B? I want to fight for B.A. because B.A.
inspired me to do this job. He confirmed that I could have this opportunity.
And I can't forget Clyde Christensen. People don't realize about Clyde Christensen.
I feel like that was my best technique year. You know, it was an amazing year.
You know, I led the league in passing yards, and I led the league in, well, I was second to the MVP in touchdowns. MVP was Mark Jackson that year.
But Clyde Christensen, who trained Payne Manning for all those years at Indy. Tom Moore, who's the office coordinator, with Payne Manning.

So the level of gratitude that I just had,

who B.A. brought in, you know,

you see what I love, they won the Super Bowl,

is because B.A. brought in that culture,

and he was preparing the Bucs to ascend.

You know, obviously he has a larger role in Tampa Bay,

but just the people that he surrounds his player with,

I was just thinking about the doctors that he brought in, you know, the recovery mechanism that he brought in, the strength coach, Anthony Paroli, that he brought in. Like he, him being coming from Pittsburgh and seeing Indianapolis, like he brought that Super Bowl winning culture back to Tampa Bay.
I was grateful to him. When you got a guy that believes in you, that has that type of pedigree, then you want to live up to his expectations, right?

It's like since you said it, I don't want to disappoint you.

So I'm going to do everything I can because now you've made me believe in myself and I want you to be right about me, right? Yeah, absolutely. And I think that works both ways, especially when I've been doing a lot of stuff just on mindfulness of learning to be more self self-aware and understanding how to convey my

emotions. And I fully, I believe like initially when I first got into this

league, I was a people pleaser, you know, just, just,

just because like, man, my dad coached me and Lily, you know,

so just my early years of being a football player, you know, I wanted to please my dad. Right.
You know what I'm saying? I want to make sure every coach that I've had in my whole life, I view from a lens of my father, you know, because I respect my authority, you know. Every time I say that, you know, I think about South Park.
South Park. Yeah, yeah.
Respect the authority. You know what I'm saying? But anyways, like, so that's just how I was, I was wired.
Yeah. So when you say that.
I think about South Park. Yeah, yeah.
Respect authority. You know what I'm saying? Partner.
But anyways, so that's just how I was wired. Yeah.
So when you are in an opportunity where you got an authoritative figure that you trust, that instills that trust in you and you're a person that's a people pleaser, you're going to do everything that they say to a T. So when you run a meeting and someone says, risk it, no biscuit.
Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You're like, okay, I'm here to risk it.
Yeah. Sometimes the biscuit, you know, kind of gets away from you.
But it was, I think like you said, PFT, when you have people that believe in you, and I think that's what I'm looking for, you know, with a job opportunity. Yeah.
You know, someone that believes, you know, that I can lead their team to a Super Bowl. And obviously that comes with actions.
You know what I'm saying? That's why this offseason is so important. That's why I take pride of being a great teammate.
Because when you're able to act upon what you want to achieve, that's how you truly obtain success. Yeah, so you you mentioned baseball I want to talk baseball real quick uh you were a great baseball player you loved playing baseball I assume because you played in college as well do you think you could have played in in major leagues like you were what were you throwing I do so at the end of Florida State I was topping out at 98 but I said like I said 92 yeah, man, I miss baseball so much.
And I truly believe that me not playing baseball did not allow me to achieve certain athletic movements on the football field that I was when I was playing baseball every single day, really from a hidden perspective. I didn't realize how much thoracic, like lumbar rotation that I was not able to be as powerful in because I was a switch hitter.
So when you're in the cages and you batting from the right side, taking up to 500 cuts on the right side and then 500 cuts on the left side. When you're doing that, think about your thoracic rotation.
You know what I'm saying? You're moving a lot, and you look at the, I would say, the most prolific quarterbacks in the league now, and they have different arm slots. They have an uncannily ability to throw in different situations with their body being contorted from a different way, from a different plane.
So I feel like that I had to focus more on doing T-spine rotations and practicing yoga just a little bit more to get that rotation. But it's different when you have a different sport that's allowing you to do those movements.
Yeah, it's a hot topic now, too, with kids and specialization, and it feels like most people who make it to the pros are like, no, let the kids play all the sports. It will teach them something that they'll pick up for whatever sport they want to go forward with.
Just focusing on one sport, you're taking away all these different skills that they might learn in baseball or whatever. So do you think you would have played in the big leagues? I do believe that I would have made it to the show.
Do you think you could maybe still, maybe second act, Dion? You're like Dion? Listen, I promise you I believe in myself. Yeah.
You know, any time of the day. But, you know, out of respect for the people that still put in the work.
Yeah. You know, to make it to the show.
Baseball is one of the most failing sports there is. Yeah.
You is very defeating. At times, if you don't practice.
Baseball is, the scenarios that you're put in, I feel like, especially when you talk about Kia specializing on certain things, it teaches you different disciplines. When you think about a pitcher, as a as a pitcher, your job is to, you know, hit the mitt, right? But literally you're – it's you and the ball.
Right. And that is it.
They say it's you and the catcher. But the batter has a say-so.
Yeah. It's you and the ball.
It's about your location. It's about, okay, let's take a calculated risk here.
Okay, I know this guy, you know, his hot spot is high and inside, right? So instead of throwing a four seam that's just going to be flat and let him, you know, hit his pitch, you throw a two seam. So it runs in a little bit more on his hands.
So he thinks he sees it coming. Boom, you get his hands.
Like it's very calculated things between that as a batter, right? When I think about a batter, first thing I think about is a quarterback you know i'm saying like i don't know what the pitch the pitchers do i know what his stuff is right quarterback i know i know what a defense's lead coverage is you know i'm saying i know versus a a different front i know what i'm probably gonna get i've done uh like studied the different tendencies of the pressures that they like to to bring at a certain time But as a batter, you're like, okay, I watched film on, you know, this pitcher. I know he likes, you know, change-ups, low and away, you know, with one strike.
You know, so I'm going to prepare for that, but I have to react to the fastball, right? So when I'm sitting out behind the center, like, okay, like, I know that, you know, the big Vangio defense is going to show a too high shell for the majority. But once I get the snap, I have to, again, trust and confirm, like, oh, I have rotation.
All right, well, the rotation is to the strength. Okay, it's COVID-3.
So, boom, my eyes start here. Yeah.
You know, and as a batter, you think about a quarterback, you have the same amount. Really, probably less time as a batter because you have to react to the ball.
But you don't have, you know, Jadavion Clowney and Miles Garrett and Mike Parsons rushing you. So when you think about those disciplines that baseball teaches you and how you can relate it to football, how you can relate it to boxing, you know, in terms of like being in a pocket, being able to take, you know, purposeful strikes, you know, as a boxer.
When you think about Floyd Mayweweather people know him about his defense but when you look at his strike like his strike uh accuracy like he's landing a very high percentage of his strikes you know when you think about um i think in today's game quarterbacks are having such high completion percentages is because offenses are created more for the quick game but throws behind a line of scrimmage that allow people to catch and run. And we think about boxing, those are those jabs.
Yeah. Those are those jabs.
But the ability to hit, you know, the ability to knock somebody out, the ability to hit a ball, to throw a ball 60 yards down the field, that is, you know, that's the dagger. That's the stake in the heart.

Yeah.

You know, so I think these disciplines,

and I'm so happy that you brought up the spatialization,

I think you learn so many different experiences in different sports that you won't be able to really learn in life

until you experience it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, and we've seen some of that in your famous workout videos

that you like to post online.

We love, we're big fans of your workout videos.

I know that sometimes you post them and you're like, yeah, people are going to laugh at this one but it's funny and i and i'm doing this with a purpose um my favorite one i think is the one where you drop back and you have a baseball bat in your hand yeah and then you're in the pocket and you just swing a baseball bat from the pocket you're like that that's just a dude that loves sports right there or the blindfolded three-point shot that you made yeah with a football yeah that was a good what towels and the dog the towel backyard yeah which what's your favorite one that you put out so um like uh my whole life you know i've always got this you're like i'm sure you i'm like you tried to do that yeah or or like oh you you're doing this like on purpose i was like i'm very intentional in everything that i do so when i'm doing something i'm all in yeah it's not it's not jokes it's not fun and games to me this is my work this is my craft right this is my passion like i said like bruce aaron's inspired me to be a super bowl win but i've been training for this moments for these moments like you don't you don't spend 10 years in nfl for fun fun and jokes and games right spend 10 years because you love the game and you love the people you love everyone that's involved with that game so these drills that i do i literally i'm making these drills up based off what i'm experiencing on the field you know i'm saying again i didn Again, I didn't continue to play baseball. So how can I enhance my torque? How can I make sure that my hip-to-shoulder dissociation is being detailed? I'm going to get in the pocket.
I'm going to simulate with my helmet. I'm going to take my drops, and I'm going to take a swing.
You know, like those are things that happens. You know, big shout-out to C.J.
Stroud in the prolific year that he's having. When C.J.
Stroud is taking baseball swings on the sideline, it's magic. When C.J.
Stroud is shooting basketball right before the game, it's magic because this game is predicated on winning. You win, ain't nobody making fun of no jokes.
This is amazing. Look at the technique that he's using when he's swinging that bat.
It's so true. It's so true.
I definitely embrace the laughter. Laughter gives you life.
Sometimes I can be funny, but i also embrace the grind i embrace like the thought that me and my trainer put into these these workouts you know i i embrace the lessons that we learn you know because we paying attention to feedback like how can you get better if you don't if you don't understand why you're doing something or you don't gain perspective you know we're always pushing always pushing to be greater than what we were. Yeah.
You know, if you're not trying to get better, like, you definitely get worse. Yeah, that's true.
Right? So when I approach the offseason, that's why I'm having meetings with Nadia. And that's why my assistant is traveling with me.
You know what I'm saying? Because I still got to get my work in. Yeah.
You know I'm, obviously I'm grateful to be here with y'all,

but things are still being done. Like if,

do you,

do you believe,

let me ask you,

what,

what do y'all believe made Barstool such a household name?

Is it,

is it because of the people that you had on the show?

Or is it because of the undercover work that y'all do every single day before y'all even got to this platform to allow you to be who you are it's a good point because we we have a dream job we have the best job in the world but i do think there's some times where we don't give ourselves enough credit where we work really hard and we work long hours and it's fun that's the problem is like when we say work it's like we get to go watch you know 12 hours of football and that's everyone would want to do that so but yeah i think we do put in that effort because we always want to be giving our best effort like we don't want to show up and not be ready for doing a show so yeah i it's true and there's a there's a lot that goes on behind the scenes and went on behind the scenes before we were at this platform like the the work that nobody really sees when you're grinding on the way up, on the way up, on the way up. You spend more time like learning your craft, detailing your craft, on the way up to prepare you for once you get to that level.
So, yeah, there's a lot of stuff that people, I guess, haven't seen. But I guess a lot of that work was also just also watching football.
Yeah, and it is funny because I always think about, like, people who have made it in life.

The one thing I always don't like is that they kind of forget about

the lucky breaks along the way.

And we've had a lot of lucky breaks.

You know, we've had things break our way, different paths that we've taken.

We went left.

We went right.

So, like, I also just admit that, like, we have luck.

You know, anyone who's successful has gotten a lucky break at some point, and to pretend that that didn't exist, that always bothers me, where they're like, well, I was always great. I was always going to be great.
No, you had something happen in your life where a lucky break propelled you even further. So, yeah.
Yeah, you know, I challenge you on that take. I believe in four-leaf clovers because I've seen some.
So I know luck can be real but i'm not really a big proponent of luck you don't think there's any luck that is like well i don't believe that anything's happened i don't think there's no such thing as as a coincidence yeah i believe it's intentional everything that we're doing is either enhancing where we're at right now either we are being a person of increase or we're really just failing today. For example, your relationship with Jimbo Fisher, which is an incredible relationship we had Jimbo on.
You guys won a national title together. I'm sure you were recruited a bunch of different places.
There's a chance that you go somewhere else or the decision is different. There's a little bit of luck involved that you and Jimbo were the perfect marriage

at that perfect time in both of your careers.

So it's not saying that you're lucky.

It's that there's little things that happen along the way that you're like,

you look back and you're like, oh, that was really good that it happened exactly that way.

Yeah, no, and again, like I said, I don't disagree with your method. I just believe that Jimbo and I were, it was already planned.
Yeah. You know, like, I think the biggest thing that people miss, and this is what social media gives us, it gives us instant access to everyone's lives.
But I think people miss the people factor. Really being around other people and building on those connections that you already have yeah or those connections that you have yet to make and i think when you are around people with similar energy right with a similar mindset those energies they work towards each other they go together jimbo had a lot to prove yeah right jimbo was uh you know he was coming from lsu he was filling in the steps of bobby bowman you know the the legend coach and this is florida state like i get it florida state isn't in sec but historically this has been a dominant uh college and for you to fill up the shoes of Bobby Bowman

and for people to always connect you with Nick Saban your entire career,

you have a chip on your shoulder to say, like, hey,

I'm going to accomplish something that, again,

I'm going to have my Moses moment.

Yeah.

You know what I'm saying?

I'm not going to be Aaron.

Yes.

There's nothing wrong with being Aaron, but I'm going to be Moses.

Yeah.

You know, and when I got with Jimbo, like, Jimbo expressed that to me because unlike a lot of people, like a lot of people just, and it's not judging, but some people aren't wired the way that others. You had the term like we ain't cut from the same cloth.
Yeah. Right.
I instantly knew Jimbo and I were cut from the same cloth because Jimbo wanted a championship. He was going to do whatever

he could to get that.

I'm a kid from Alabama. I'm 35 minutes

from Alabama. Listen, people

when I committed

to Florida State

the things that happened

to me and my family

was unbelievable

living in the state of Alabama.

35 minutes in Tuscaloosa. I mean, my mailbox, I'm getting beat down.
You know what I'm saying? Thank Lord, you know, Home Depot had these mailboxes sticking in the ground. You know, I felt that, man, and this is something that's serious.
I felt like one time, well, not one time, I still don't have grass that grows in my front yard at my hometown house. I still don't.
Because I feel like one time well not one time I still don't have grass that grows in my front yard at my hometown house I still don't because I feel like somebody poisoned my grass yeah you know what I'm saying like Harvey Uptight yeah he's the guy that poisoned the oaks at Toomer's Corner and you know that I don't want to I don't want to blame Harvey or anybody but I believe like something happened like how does my grass just stop growing yeah I think Harvey got you on. And I smelled gasoline, you know, when I got home.
Like, me and my dad, we talk about this. My grandmother working at, she worked at UAB Medical School, rest of her soul, and she was an avid Alabama fan.
And, like, fans would send my grandmother. My grandmother hate mail.
My grandma, you're going at grandma? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? her grandson ain't going to Alabama, that is the stuff that you go through.
What it does is like, I read this book called Callous on My Soul by Dick Gregory. It's just basically a biopic of his life and some of the things that he went through and some of the influential people that people that he was with uh but what he talks about basically the premise is that all these things that he went through you know they built the callus yeah you know and a lot of people look at calluses it's like you know i got a callus on my hand but what is what is that is it's building another layer yeah it's making that area stronger you know i'm saying so all these things that i that i went through it made it made me stronger so same with jimbo jimbo you know ethan his son was you know going going through a lot with fanconia anemia you know all the things that he does with the kids first foundation so you just think about the level of of um perseverance that you have to have every single day because you're looking in your son's eyes and seeing the pain that he's going through right and you have to claim you know a hundred and other 110 other kids as your son right because you have to lead uh a university like Florida State after Bobby Bowne oh under Nick Saban so he's like man I want something for myself yeah but that connection they had really the biggest thing he did was his best friend was Mike Mike Martin Jr., you know, the son of Mike Martin, the legendary coach.
Shout out to me in 11. But they had a meeting with me.
That's a big thing. Your football coach, man, you believe me or much, you're going to let me play baseball? You're going to say that the baseball coach is your best friend? And we sitting there eating together, breaking bread together, so I get to talk football and baseball.
What did I want to accomplish in college? I wanted to win a national championship. And if I could do that in football and baseball, yes, I'm going to Florida State.
They're the only ones that said that you could play baseball, right? Well, LSU, they said that I could play baseball. Alabama actually said that I could play baseball.

Alabama, I really felt like the recruitment that I had at Alabama probably helped their baseball program a little bit because after they didn't get me, they started building these big baseball facilities and stuff like that. And I'm just going to hold that to heart.
I'm going to say it was because of me. Yeah, no, that was because of you.
So name the stadium after. Yeah.
The only team that said that I couldn't play baseball was Florida. Oh.
The Florida Gators. And I'm going to give you all a quick story.
I went to Friday Night Lights. It was like a camp in Florida.
It was me, a guy named Zeke Pike, who was an amazing guy, and I just love how his life has changed and how he's serving the Lord and just doing great things in the community. Shout out to Zeke.
But we were there competing, and I forgot who it was, who was the office coordinator. But anyways, I'm at Florida, right, and we're on, like, this recruiting trip.
And, man, I went to MVP of the camp. I show out, you know what I'm saying? I walk up to,

uh,

you know,

that's probably why I don't know his name because he didn't,

he told me that I couldn't play.

But this is the office coordinator of the Florida Gators.

This ain't even the head coach.

No,

I'm not even talking to the head coach.

The office coordinator told me,

you know,

you,

you ain't gonna be able to play baseball here.

And I said,

Oh,

I said,

okay.

I said,

well,

I probably won't go here. You know what I'm saying? saying like literally like the florida years like when you think about a kid from alabama like i'm thinking like okay one of my one of my guys was uh like i looked at you know we had jamarcus russell we had pat white we had um philip rivers and these are alabama quarterbacks that did not go to an alabama school.
So you have these people and you just look at the course of what they've achieved in their life. And Pat White, he did great things at West Virginia.
Phillip Rivers, he's a Hall of Fame quarterback one day. And Jamarcus Russell, he was the number one pick.
So he did some great things at LSU, won a national championship there. Well, no, he didn't win a national championship.
He beat, I think he beat Notre Dame. Yeah.
He did some great things at LSU. So I was there uh well no he didn't win he beat uh I think he beat Notre Dame yeah yeah he did some great things at LSU so I was like man I'm gonna take this chance you know and at this time this was when Alabama was the traditional pro style offense where their quarterback really wasn't making an impact on their team they were surrounded by great talent and uh and a great defense so the opportunity to go to Florida State team up up with Jimbo, who's an offensive mind, and be around those players and dominate

and go against the SEC.

Do you know how great it was?

And it was crazy.

It was great to be Auburn in a national championship.

Yeah, yeah.

And one, it's an SEC team.

I wish it would have been Alabama.

That would have been – you know,

that probably gave me a little bit more street cred.

Yeah.

It would have burned more of your grass.

In the state.

Yeah.

The whole house part would have been gone.

But funny story about Auburn.

And this is just the – really, this is the mindset that people in Alabama

have when it comes to their football teams.

I just won the Heisman, and I'm walking in the grocery store.

Me and my friend, one of my best friends, Tanner Brown brown we're walking in like a dillard's or something and uh and this nice nice old lady comes up and he's like hey like don't i know you from somewhere you know that happens a lot i was like i was like you know maybe like how are you like do you need any help like because this is a you know this is an old lady you know uh she's like, no, no. I'm good.
She's like, Nick Marshall, right? And I said, yes, ma'am. Nick Marshall? It's nothing against Nick Marshall, but I play for Florida State.
I don't have an orange. Listen, I'm at the mall.
I don't have an orange and blue. I promise you.
I got on regular clothes, so I can get it i don't look nothing like nick marshall yeah you know i'm saying and like for for her to attach like when you're alabama you attach greatness with if you're going to alabama or auburn auburn yeah you know like so i i missed out on that so i'm sorry to all my alabama people that i didn't go to what what year was uh the camp because i just looked it up it's either steve adazio or it might have been charlie weiss who told you you can't play baseball i think charlie weiss was the head coach look look will no he was offensive coordinator for will must champ okay no this was uh this was 20 this was 20 uh 2010 okay so it was steve adazio be a dude not steve adazio it was not he up going to Auburn to be the office coordinator at Auburn, too. Big mistake by him.
Massive. Big mistake by him.
Yes, it was a huge – but it wasn't Steve Adazio. What was the quarterback coach's name? I'm going to look it up right now.
Remember that Auburn natty? That was on your birthday, wasn't it? Yeah, it was. You won the national championship on your birthday.
Yes. If I were you, I wouldn't believe in luck either.
Like, that doesn't feel like luck. That feels like it was supposed to happen.
It's supposed to happen. You know, before the national championship game, you know, when you are on that high stage, like, a lot of people try to contact you and have conversations, build relationships with you.
And there were two people that I was able to build a relationship with during that time. One of those people was Bo Jackson.
And I'm going to tell you about Bo Jackson. And another of those people were literally just a one-day relationship with this person because he got back to me and really my wife, and that was Eric Thomas.
Eric Thomas, man, literally called him called him while i was out in la uh he reached out to me man and prayed for me gave me some words of wisdom and like and that was basically all the motivation i needed to go out there and lead the troops yeah you know what i'm saying like you you get a call from eric thomas and like just what he stands for the motivation that he's been inspiring me and my wife well well, now wife, but my girlfriend at the time our whole life. So shout out to E.T.
and the work that he's doing. But Bo Jackson.
Bo Jackson, Auburn guy. Auburn guy.
By the way, the guy was Scott Loeffler. Scott Loeffler.
Leave him alone. It was Scott Loeffler.
That's exactly who it was. It was Scott Loeffler.
And he ended up going to Auburn. Yeah, he did.
So let's talk about Bo Jackson. One, there are two

people from Bessemer, Alabama

that are

that I would see

made me

and inspired me to be who I am. One

is D'Amico Rines.

He actually was my first

signed football. Oh.
Yeah, my uncle had

coached him in high school. Really coached him from

Little League all the way up. So shout out to D'Am in houston uh what he's doing there and uh bo jackson uh both of them from besma bo jackson is from besma alabama i've met domico i talked to him and kerry rose too i don't want to leave him out but uh the first time i talked to bo jackson was after i won the heisman and you're from besma alabama now i know he lived in Chicago and all that.
But he was calling me. He was like, hey, you know, what's up, Jabo? And I was like, that ain't my name.
I told him, what's up, Jameson? And I was like, that's not my name. But I'm grateful to be talking to you.
Man, this man, man, he called me. I don't know what booster from Auburn was in his pocket or in his ear, but he would call me at all times of the night wanting to talk, saying, hey, this Uncle Bo, you know what I'm saying? Just calling to check in on you.
I'm like, Uncle Bo, I ain't talked to you in my whole life, and I'm from your neighborhood. You know what I'm saying? You calling me right before the national championship game.
And listen, when is the next time I talk to Bo Jackson? After the national championship? No. After the national championship game, I didn't hear from him again.
The next time I heard from him was at a Panini signing. You know what I'm saying? Say, hey, what's up, Uncle Bo? Now you beat him.
Yeah, how you doing? That's how they do it in SEC football. Try to get in your head a little bit.
When I look back at it, I was like, well, you know, I kind of give credit to Uncle Bo because, like, he was really – he was doing everything he could for Auburn. He knew I loved him.
He going to call me at all times of the night. Waking you up, yeah.
Inspiring me to whoop his team even more. Yeah.
You know what I'm saying? That's great. That was so funny, man.
So shout out to Bo Jackson. One, just the baseball.
D'Amico was a great baseball player, too, in high school. So you got those two people from your same city.
And I ain't talking about, like, a suburban area or, like, on the outskirts. Like, man, we are from the same city.
Yeah. You know what I'm saying? We probably were born at the same hospital.

You know what I'm saying?

And you got two people that –

like how can you not be inspired to be your best self

when you got two people that already paid the foundation for you?

Yeah, yeah.

Maybe the best athlete of all time in Bo Jackson.

Yeah.

Talk about a baseball and a football player.

Like the only person you can say is Prime.

Yeah, Deion, yeah.

You know what I'm saying?

That's the only person you can put in that –

Yeah, to be that good at both. I got – Or Charlie Wood because he ho Prime.
Yeah, Deion. That's the only person you can put in that.
Yeah, to be that good at both.

Or Charlie Ward because he hooped.

Yeah, that's true.

That's the crazy thing about Charlie Ward where people don't give him enough respect.

He won the Heisman Trophy and didn't get drafted.

Yeah.

He played in the NBA.

It's crazy.

It's crazy.

He'd get drafted today.

Oh, but hold on.

But still got drafted in the first round.

Yeah. In the NBA.
Okay, come on now. Yeah.
Think about that. That's incredible.
That really is. Think about what Pat White would have been in today's.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, I know.
I know. You have all these quarterbacks that were ahead of their time.
It's true. You know what I'm saying? But didn't get the opportunity because of other things.
Yeah. You know what I'm saying? We don't know why.
What was the guy's name? He played Florida State Roll. Was it Myron Roll? Myron Roll.
So he was an elite athlete. And then what's he now, like a heart surgeon? Yeah.
Yeah, he's a surgeon. And I believe he's actually a government official in, is it Panama? It's not panama but someone he was at he was there but he he was a government official from his native uh his native uh country the bahamas yeah i think what i thought then he i thought i thought he did some work in the bahamas i think so too yeah he's a neurosurgeon he's great player, too.
He was really, really good. We play this game with everybody that comes on the show.
I've got four cities, just random cities, and you tell me which one you like the best, which one you could maybe see yourself living in. Seattle, Atlanta, Washington, D.C., and Foxborough, Massachusetts.
Just four random cities. Random.
Random cities. Totally random.
Which one of those cities? I mean, they sound random. Yeah, they're very random.
Oh, in Denver. In Denver.
Yeah. I was waiting for that one.
Yeah. Random.
You know, anyone that accepts me. Yeah.
But I would just say this. Atlanta, I grew up an hour and a half from Atlanta.
I'm from Birmingham, Alabama. I think that would be a beautiful time for just my family.
The accessibility that I have for my other family, my surrounding family, that would be beautiful. But I feel like I'm the I'm the attraction.

I'm the I'm the thing like I'm the city that is going to bring, you know, joy, love, trust, peace, integrity to any location that I'm at because I'm a man of increase. Yes.
Right. So I am the city.
That's powerful. It really is.

It really is. So wherever it may be, that city is going to be getting someone that is ready.
Yeah. A kingdom man that is prepared to grow everyone around them.
I want to sign you right now. Yeah.
That's inspiring. I am inspired right now.
All right. I have an awkward question, but I have to ask it because our fans would be very upset if I didn't.
Yes. Jameis1of1, the Twitter handle.
Yes. Are you familiar? I am.
He's a very big fan. He is.
He loves you. Yeah.
Very big fan. That's it.
He just loves you. Is it good to have a rider like that? Because he loves you.
And that's what I mean. It's some stuff that's just not luck.
Yeah. When you have someone, like, I never met the guy.
Never been on the phone with the guy. Her husband wrote a book with him.
Yeah. And forward a book with him.
And I never had any interaction with him. So when God sent you an angel like that, like, man, this man be backing me.
Yes. And my dad, he the one that be retweeting you know like I'm not as active on social media but like I'm gonna look at my dad you retweeting us like cause he don't know nothing about no twitter my dad would call twitter twitter you know like you know luckily it's x now so you can't mix that up.
Like, it was amazing to see because when this book came out, my trainer, like, we training, like, we preparing. I didn't know he's for a book.
And then the book come out, and now I got people asking me, like, hey, is this Jameis' burner account? Yes. Like, first of all, I don't have the time, you know, to represent myself like that on a social media base..
If I'm going to represent myself, I'm going to do that in between the lines. But I just view it as an angel in disguise.
I'm grateful for Jameis 101 and wherever you're at. I appreciate he send me emails, emails of encouragement.
Sometimes he'll shoot me like he would send me random cities that I need to be contemplating on. You know what I'm saying? And he'll have everybody on the line.
He'll have Nadia on the CCs. I'm just like, huh? Okay.
Thank you. Yeah.
He rides. And for people who are unfamiliar, you can buy the book on Amazon.
I own the book. It's Jameis Winston Derangement Syndrome, How Media Bias Causes Us to Overlook the Start of a Hall of Fame NFL Career it's great it's a great book I mean he rides for you I need a Jameis one of one I need a guy just riding for me we all do we all need those people that just got our back unconditionally and he gets in the corners of the internet and he just fights.
He has stats that I've never seen before.

Yeah.

I'm grateful for him.

Yeah.

I need to take him to a negotiating meeting.

Yeah.

Serious.

I mean, he'll pull up your best stats.

He actually probably should put together some pamphlets for you

when you're hitting the free agent.

They're ready.

Oh, yeah.

No, he doesn't have to put them together.

Yeah.

He's sleeping on them.

So the last season that you did play and you played to your fullest extent or before the injury, you had, what, 14 touchdowns, three interceptions in New Orleans? Like, you can play. You can still start.
And I hope that another team sees that and brings a city to their city because the NFL is more fun when Jameis Winston is a starting quarterback. That's a fact.
For sure. Do you have a game or a single drive or throw that you look back on and you're like, I played – that to me is my calling card.
Like this is what I can bring to you. It's a number of games that's come to mind.
The game in the L.A. Coliseum against the Rams.
My rookie year against Philly, tied the rookie record for touchdowns. And Philly was my favorite team growing up, ironically.
Andy Reid, I just loved him. Big Donovan McNabb.
Yeah. But I don't really feel like I played my best game yet.
You know, like I'm such an in-the-moment type of person. Like I'm starving for that chance to do it again.
You know, and I think when you look back on my career and when you look back on certain games, like just like, you know, the final play is behind me. Like what's next? You know, what can I create next? Like who can I bring bring George to next you know it's like how high can I go like if I'm sitting here like first of all I'm grateful for all my experiences I'm grateful for those games that I did that have the LA game was really fun uh just because that was my second time uh being third time being back in LA after we lost to Oregon so I really wanted that, you know what I'm saying, against the Rams in 2019.
But this is what I do. Like, this is not who I am, but this is what I do.
Like, it's my passion to go out there and bombs on Baghdad, you know, throw five touchdowns, you know what I'm saying, and lead that Super Bowl winning drive with 13 seconds or a minute and 13 seconds on the clock. That's what I've been trained to do.
And trust me, it ain't going to be by coincidence when I'm in that opportunity again, when I'm awarded with that opportunity again. I hope you're getting that opportunity.
We'll play this clip and we'll go mega viral absolutely i'm gonna yeah like he saw it all yeah yeah so one thing that's it's pretty clear about you believe in yourself and you you have that internal confidence and you know what you can accomplish what was it like kind of taking a step back and and consciously saying i am willing to be a backup quarterback because you don't you don't talk like a backup quarterback You have that faith in yourself. You're ready to be the guy.
Was it like an adjustment period that you had to deal with in New Orleans where you had to dial it back? Were you just like, if I'm going to be a backup quarterback, I'm going to be the best backup quarterback that the league's ever seen? Yeah. Well, that faith in myself comes from my resilient faith in my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
That's's where it comes in. And I know I trust in him.
You know, Proverbs 3, 5 says, trust in the Lord with your whole heart and lean not into your own understanding. Right.
So I trust in him wholeheartedly. And no matter what, again, no matter what condition, circumstances or facts there are surrounding who I am or what I do, that does not define me.
I don't let anyone else or anything define my next move of who I'm going to be or what I'm going to accomplish. But I would have to say my first opportunity to be a backup quarterback was a very great gig.

And I give a lot of credit to Sean Payton for this because I think that was a year where it was kind of back to college where I had to make a decision for, you know, my career for where I would go.

And that decision came clear when I talked on the phone with Sean Payton and got a chance to work with Drew Brees.

Like, again, this is a guy that I looked up to, you a chance to meet a couple times out in San Diego just through a church, Rock Church. Pastor Miles McPherson had.
George Whitfield, actually, one of my old quarterback coaches, he had set up a meeting with Pastor Miles McPherson in San Diego, and Drew Brees was the guest speaker one day, and I got a chance to meet him out there. So that was amazing.
But anyways, being able to work with Sean, who is a fearless, passionate competitor, who really, like Drew was the Hall of Fame face, the Hall of Fame quarterback, and the resilient surgical player.

But that was Sean Payton's culture at New Orleans Saints.

That team was a reflection of who he is, the tenacity.

Like he was – Sean Payton was – he was the man of the city.

Like he's the one that embraced the culture of New Orleans,

and he gave that to me.

I remember a story with Sean.

And I'm going to get to the backup.

You know, I don't like talking about being a backup because I don't like that place. Even though I cherish every place that I'm in.
But Sean, man, we about to be in the airport and it was doing COVID. Hurricane just, so we're leaving through not privately, not chartered, but like a regular airport.
Like we checking in through MSY in New Orleans. And it's a fan, you know, right there.
And, you know, he's asking for an autograph. You know, I got my headphones on.
I can't hear. And Sean tells the fan, get out of here.
He's not finna sign

your autograph.

And he kind of shoots the guys off,

but he looks at me. He's like, we're not here

to kiss any babies.

I don't want you here

to be a politician. I want

you here to be a quarterback.

And that stuck with me because

that's how Drew approached the game.

Drew wasn't in it

to be liked

by everyone. Drew had a chip on his shoulder because one team didn't believe in him.
I think he literally did have a chip on his shoulder. Yeah, he did.
The MRI show. Literally, he had a real chip on his shoulder.
But one team didn't believe him, so he was going to make his next opportunity the spot, and that's what he did. So being able to be in that building, I just had one year with him, but being able to serve Drew Brees, that's why people don't look – I served Drew Brees for a year.
You know what I'm saying? I saw him getting banged up and having to overcome things and sending him plays and sending him suggestions. Like, this Drew Brees.
Drew looking at me like this. Come on, James.
I really don. I'm talking at meetings.
And, like, every time he'll just peek down down there, I'm just like, okay, let me be quiet. You know? But this is like, that's the love that even Drew Brees is in the room.
And I got love for this game. I'm willing to say something in front of Drew Brees? Like, so I think, again, I've played every role that a quarterback could play to an organization.
However, I embrace every opportunity that I get. But my desire and my passion is being a Super Bowl winning quarterback.
And you win Super Bowls by being a starting quarterback. That's when they deem you as a Super Bowl winning quarterback when you are starting.
Even if it's just that game. That's a Super Bowl.
They're not going to say the backup quarterback. They're like, he won a Super Bowl champion.
Super Bowl winning quarterback. Doug Williams.
Doug Williams came in off the bench. I didn't put Doug Williams because he was the first.
He was the first African-American quarterback. That was – he broke barriers.
His resilience – and I was blessed because DJ Williams was a quarterback coach at the Saints. Yeah.
And Doug worked in Tampa Bay, right? Doug worked in Tampa Bay. Yes.
But that's barriers, right? So when you achieve something like that, like, I got the vision. Like, I've already seen it happen.
Yeah. Because obviously he was a starter, you know, and then obviously the next season, he was a starter the year before.
And the next season, you know, some things had happened. But when his opportunity presented himself, he's just not a Super Bowl winning quarterback.
He's a Super Bowl MVP. And he dominated that quarterback.
Yes. Dominant.
It was unbelievable. So shout out to Doug Williams, and thank you for paving a way for all young African-American quarterbacks.
Yes. Dreaming to do what you did.
Yes. Yeah.
When you were coming up, did you ever, like playing ball when you were a kid, were you, did any coach try to be like, I don't know if you're going to play quarterback. Like can you try running the ball, like being a wide receiver? Did you fall into that at all? Or at the time was it like you were so talented that they were like, yeah, Jameis is going to be the quarterback no matter what? Well, when I got to Hueytown, my high school, I started as a freshman.
But I was competing against an upperclassman that was at quarterback. And we had a good relationship.
His name was Wayne Carroll. And he ended up going to receiver and, like, almost was all-stating receiver.
So I've never been in a situation where a quarterback told me, like, hey, you're going to play a different position. I have played some cornerback and some linebacker.
What was that like? It was amazing. Like, I'm a football player.
Yes. I want to be a Super Bowl winner, but I'm a football player at heart, you know.
So that's always fun. But, no, Wayne Carroll, his selflessness to go and be my best receiver that year, it just gave me, I feel like it gave me a mind shift because it's like the tables have turned.
I was the first African-American quarterback at my high school. So that was kind of a unique feeling.
That was a lot of pressure as a ninth grader being in this rural city in Alabama. But I think that situation gave me perspective because I was like, okay, this kid was upturned, but this guy, he didn't complain.
We got into it a lot just because he was an alpha too and I was an alpha. But he did his job.
And what did my dad teach me from Little League Little League? Like, hey, no matter where the coach puts you, this is a big baseball statement, no matter where the coach puts you, you go out there and you do your best. Yeah.
You know what I'm saying? So, like, I continue to carry those values up until now. So Wayne Carroll was a white guy.
Yeah. That's a beautiful moment for America.
Yeah. Rural Alabama, white quarterback.
He was a red head white guy. Red headed.

Really white guy. Yeah.
And they said you know what

you look more like an athlete.

I'd like you to go play wide receiver. We're gonna put

Jameis Winston. That's beautiful.

Look.

Running a wing tee. Yeah.
R.I.P.

Racism. Yeah.
There it is.

You know.

But Wayne's the man. Yeah.
Can we talk about

eating a dub? Yes. let's talk about it.

Oh, you got one up there.

That looks good.

That looks like a good dub.

You want to eat it?

I got to put it in the oven a little bit more.

When you did that, we talked to Cam Jordan about it.

We talked to some other teammates of yours, and they're like, it's Jameis.

It's Jameis.

From the outside world being like, oh, that's weird.

We all love Jameis.

It inspired us. How long have you been eating dubs? I've been eating W's, you know, since the beginning.
It started a long, long time ago, and that's because my last name is W, and the first four letters of my last name spells out wins. Yep.
If you're going to fact check me, it's probably right on Wikipedia. I'll be damned.
But I've been, it all stemmed

from one of my

favorite

motivational speeches.

And it all surrounds

about, you know, a bowl

of, do y'all

remember the soup, the alphabet

soup? Yes. You know what I'm saying? Of course.

I always just talk about like, hey, we're

scraping the bowl today. We scraping,

we eating up, we eating up everything, right?

And we only looking for dubs

in the alphabet soup.

There's a lot of different options out there, but we looking for

W's. We eating all the W's

in the alphabet soup. But this one

game, like, ironically, you know,

the true thing happened

in New Orleans. Like, it was at New Orleans

and we lost the game.

That's why, you know,

I'm still selling Eat the W t-shirt

I'm still selling Eat the W t-shirts. You know what I'm saying? We've been way bigger.
We'd have won the game. That's why winning is so important.
Winning defines everything. And you two are winning in what y'all do.
I am too. I'm winning in life.
I will be getting more wins on the football field. But anyways, Eat the W.
I'm talking and I'm inspiring the guys like, hey, what we eating today? I already had the alphabet soup conversation early in the year. You know what I'm saying? We ate the W.
I was like, what we eating? I was like, we're eating W. It's like, what this is? You know what I'm saying? It's a W.
We eating that W. You know what I'm saying? I took the W out to soup.
I already had the W ready and prepared. I think it went left when I started actually eating the W.
Yes, I agree. And when I ate the real W and then proceeded to dap up Deshaun Jackson.
Yeah. I think that was the worst person to dap up.
Because Deshaun from Cali, he already a Hall of Famer. First, he don't got no time for no E2Ws.
He just, he looking like, give me some touchdowns. Give me the ball, James.
Like, hey, worry about E2Ws. And when I tried to dap him up in the eye contact we made, doing that, I think it was a powerful speech.
It really was. I was banged up.
You know, I had a grade three AC spring. You know, I'm going in.
I'm fighting. I'm fighting that.
And we've been losing. How are we going to will this team to get a win in the Superdome? My first NFL win was against Drew Brees and beating the Saints in the Superdome.
So I'm just like, I got good vibes here. You know what I'm saying? We didn't win that game.
But I felt it was powerful. Yeah.
When you think about it E and W? You know, it's just winning. Yeah.
It's doing something to push you towards what you want to accomplish. And that's why sometimes it can get misconstrued about me that, you know, that I'm a jokester, you know, I'm goofy.
Like, no, I I'm just all in. I'm all in for the people that I work with every single day.
I'm all in for my brothers, my sisters. I'm having conversations with the janitor.
You know what I'm saying? I'm having conversations with the lunch ladies. This is not just, that's my family.
You know what I'm saying? We put in too much work not to enjoy what we do and not to express how we feel. I think that's a lot of things.
A lot of people want to express things with their thumbs. You know what I'm saying? A lot of people want to express things from a facade, like from a story that, you know, probably got a green screen behind them.
No one wants to express their feelings out loud. No, we're lacking genuine people.
Like they really speak their truth and have no explanation for it. You know what I'm saying? I don't have to explain to you why I said this.
I don't have to explain to you why I did this. Trust that it came from great intentions of my heart and trust that I got your no I got your back because again what I want for myself I want for you so if I'm all in I want you to be all in I love that that's a leader right there yeah I'm ready to eat a dub right now that is a leader it is fair to point out that that was the sequel to the alphabet soup W we kind of just jumped in and all we had with no context.
Yeah. Just eat the W.
Everyone knew. It was like trying to jump into a second movie without seeing the first one.
You're not going to understand what goes on behind the scenes. When we make our ad commercial for our Eat the W shirts, it's going to start off with just a bowl of soup, and it's going to be a W just floating in the middle by itself.
Just scoop it up? And then I'm going to come out of the soup and eat the W. And then slide back in the soup.
And then it's going to say, eat a W on the top. I mean, every other time I eat alphabet soup from now on, I'm just going to eat the W's.
W's only. Why would you eat anything else? Imagine touching an L.
No.

Stop that thing. That sucks.
You're vegan now. Are W's vegan? So I've been – there are a couple vegan W's.
Okay. All right.
Good. Good.
So I always – I got this from Indomitian Sioux. We're just challenging my body and trying different diets in the course of an off-season.
so this one time literally the year after

was it the COVID year, Nadia? What year was it? Was it 2020 where I went full vegan for six months, and that was very challenging being a southern boy from Alabama. It was challenging, but it was very beneficial.
I went from 250 to 207 in a matter of eight weeks wow right and it just was me eating great food uh losing a lot of just bad weight um but it was painful because I love I love I love to eat I love to eat meat and I love to eat good um but I think anything that you can do to again increase, increase your status, your health, your brain function, to be the best that you can be, you have to do it. So I'm thankful that Indomitian Sue, you know, he put me on, you know, blood work.
You know what I'm saying? I didn't know anything about blood work. You know, I just thought, like, you get a regular checkup.
Now I'm getting blood work And they got 18 to 50 tubes

Of blood I just thought you get a regular checkup. Now I'm getting blood work, and they got 18 to 50 tubes of blood.
I'm like, I don't think I have enough blood to support it. But it's just you always are thankful for new and prosperous ideas or recommendations to better yourself.
Yeah, that's smart. I should go vegan if should go vegan it'd be impossible to be a vegan in new orleans i would think it's the food down there is just so good it's so challenging but you don't understand like like when you have the plant-based diet you don't understand how much animal fat or animal substances are in just every regular vegetarian meals like it's in it's in everything so uh i went the easier route and i just did fruit and salads and uh just a variety of uh of like walnuts brazil nuts pine nuts like things things in that that nature to just help me you know not even have to worry about uh all the the ins and outs of like is this vegan like yeah like i didn't want to be, I think that's probably why I lost so much weight, right, because I, was I eating enough? Like, I have no idea.
I just know that my energy felt the same every single day. I know that I was moving better than ever.
And I was skinny, you know, I lost my gut, so I was proud of that. Yeah, yeah.
But when it came to, you know, when it came to moving in that pocket and breaking tackles and i was just like yeah let me go and eat me a nice steak yeah yeah you gotta get your weight up a little bit if you were if you were to have like one last meal in new orleans what would it be uh well i have an amazing chef um chef tatiana and uh chef jewel robinson uh they, Chef Jewel is the mother of famous chef, Chef Kwame Unwache, who owns Tatiana's in New York. And it was rated the number one restaurant in the country last year and top 50 in the world.
Is that Nigerian food? It's, so it's really, is it Pan-American? It's kind of Caribbean and African. But he's like, what is his? I think he's, is he Nigerian? I remember I read an article about him.
His dad is Nigerian. It's really like a mix of Cajun.
It's really like, it's really a mix of everything that he's been through. Because Chef told me a story how she sent him to live.
Was it Africa or what was it? Yeah, she sent him to live in Africa. Like, so he understood, like, I think, was it the granddad was a chef.
So his granddad was a chef and a popular chef. that's and that was his mom's dad right so it just ran in the family so he basically took uh like let's think of gumbo as a like he took african cuisine he took new orleans cuisine he took la cuisine and just made it all into his own thing I have his cookbook I had to send it to y' y'all just to get the term of the type of cuisine it is.
But I know one thing, it's delicious. So no matter what type of cuisine it is, it's amazing.
So my favorite meal would be probably something from Tatiana's. My chef, her name is actually Tatiana, and he named it after her.
And he has an amazing um short rib there uh is it what

what is the name of the short rib like it's like just like just like sounds very good yeah it's

it's unbelievable yeah like in the vibe there it's right there in the Lincoln Center and like

it's just amazing yeah um so we got a couple last questions it's been unbelievable Jameis we you're

you're an all-time vibes guy you really are like it's just the the vibes are high when you're when

your And, like, it's just amazing. Yeah.
So we've got a couple last questions. It's been unbelievable, Jameis.
You're an all-time vibes guy. You really are.
Like, it's just the vibes are high when you're talking. So this one's from our good friend Stephen Shea, who's a diehard Bucs fan.
Right. Who – this is actually a pretty detailed question, but he said he wanted to know, you played with a lot of great players, but two guys that are constantly overlooked are Levante David and Demario Davis.
Who do you think is more underrated between the two of them? Levante David's been doing it forever. Yeah.
It's crazy. I don't know who's more underrated, but I know the caliber of men they both are.
And I know both of them should be and will be Hall of Famers. I feel like the most underrated player I play with, honestly, that people don't give enough respect to is Mike Evans.
Oh, yes. I think he's the person that flies up on the radar a lot.
You know, I feel like Levante flew up on the radar. But I think, like, literally he's like fine wine.
Him and DeMario, the older that they get, the better that they have been playing. Yeah.
And I I just I'm grateful for the relationship that I have with the Mario and how he helped increase me with my faith. Like he's just an unbelievable man, father and leader.
And just being around him in New Orleans was really a treat to my to my heart. with Levante, the competitor that he is and a man that he is, it's like they're similar individuals, but the way that they approach the game and the way that they prepare is, is unbelievable.
So I'm just, I'm grateful for Levante because he was kind of like one of the old heads that helped me in the league, helped me move around him and Jerry McCoy, you know, where those people, those people that kind of took me under the wing, Jerry McCoy, Jackson, and Levante kind of took me under the wing and showed me, you know, how to be a pro. Like, what are the things that I need to be doing? So I'm grateful for both of them.
But like I said, the most underrated player that don't get enough respect is Mike Evans. We did a whole thing on it a couple weeks ago where it's like Mike Evans, if you look at it, he is going to be – if he plays five, six more years, he will be – it will be Mike Evans and like Randy Moss and, you know, Jerry Rice and like T.O.
and like this vaunted group of receivers that are just unassailable. It's like these are the top five guys and people don't give him enough credit.
Like 1,000 yards every single year for – he's been in the league for 10 years. And you look at statistical things, but when you look at the size, the speed, to bend, how he's running these routes, like how he's creating separation, like he's doing it in a detailed, skilled way.
He's not doing it because of his unique athletic ability or his talent. He's doing it because he trains in this way.
You know, I really think he's doing it because if you ever look to his toes you would see how how powerful he was because his toes look like they just dig in the ground like and i'm a feet guy because i wanted to be a podiatrist uh when i when i grew up uh-huh i haven't achieved that yet but it's probably uh probably probably gonna come but anyway mike mike was just an amazing player. And, you know, I played with Deshaun,

and I played with another excellent receiver, Mike Thomas.

You know, those guys are both Mike Thomas and Deshaun.

They're both Cali guys, you know, so they love the ball, right?

Mike, he don't complain about nothing.

Yeah.

He don't give you no beef.

You know what I'm saying?

He's just a cool, laid-back person that's going to show up to work, do his job, and is going to outdo everybody on the field. He's so dominant that he doesn't get the respect that he deserves because, like you said, we talk about the stats, but he's been doing this since he got in the league.
It's crazy.'s got and you don't and you you leave him off all pros you leave him off probos and stuff like that i'm just like man like they the world the nfl culture don't know what they missing with mike evans because you know that's those are the men that the nfl you know they they put on that they put on that puzzle those those great fathers those great men that the nfl man of the year that's, that's another goal of mine. People that's giving back to their community, doing it silently, not looking for a pat on the back, but doing it because that's just who they are.
You know what I'm saying? They will put – it ain't by coincidence that they like that either. They went through certain things in their life that inspired them and influenced them to be who they are.
And I just – shout out to Mike, man. Yeah, yeah.
It's interesting you brought up the fact that, like, Cali receivers like the ball. Can you describe, like, what's the difference between California receivers, receivers from Texas, and maybe Florida wide receivers? Well, the Cali receivers, I feel like they just – I feel like they just – they are so influenced by the lifestyle in California.
Like they are born to be superstars, right? So when they are put in an environment where they are the alphas and they are the stars, I think they're going to take full advantage of that responsibility. So I just think their thirst for wanting the ball, right, whether it's challenging times, feeling like they're always open, even if they're triple covered, I think that's always just going to be something that they yearn for.
Texas, man, I feel like Texas is – they're so – I feel like the majority of Texas, they're so lifted up through high school in their young days because, you know, Texas, everybody talk about Friday nights. So they are experiencing an NFL lifestyle in middle school.
You know what I'm saying? That's just how big, you know, the stardom and the, you know, you think about Friday Night Lights and all that. That's how big it is in Texas.
In middle school and high school, they have a class for football during school hours. In middle school and high school, they have hot tubs, saunas, steam rooms, and, you know, indoor facilities.
Yeah, it's crazy. We were in Dallas.
We were in Dallas. And I forget the high school that we were at,

but this is where Mark Cuban, Jerry Jones, Sam – Matt Stafford went here.

Oh, yeah, Highland Park.

Highland Park.

Yeah.

They got an indoor facility that looks better than our indoor facility.

This is a high school in Texas.

Yeah.

So I think Texas receivers, they just – I feel like they're different. But Mike is different.
Mike is from Galveston. I always tell this to people.
And this is something that me and my trainer talk about a lot. If you are born around water, you have a different way of life.
You function differently. And I just feel like you function differently because water has no soul.
It doesn't discriminate against anybody. You get in that water, it's going to take you wherever it goes.
So I feel like people that are around water, they are very strong will. They're one with water.
You know what I'm saying? And Mike is from Galveston. If you've been to Galveston, Galveston is known for, you know, I don't know what they're known for because I'm not from there, but I know they have a beach.
You know what I'm saying? And it's not a pretty beach. No, they're known for oil.
It's some of the dirtiest sand in America. Yes.
But it's not a pretty beach. So Mike is from that muck.
You know what I'm saying? It might be oil muck, you know what I'm saying? But it's still muck. So he's a little different.

I don't classify him as the regular Texas receivers,

but CeeDee Lamb is a Texas receiver.

I know he had a dominating year.

Who else?

Is Brandon Cooks from Texas?

Brandon Cooks might be.

But yeah, and then Florida wide receivers.

Florida, I feel like, and let me be impeccable with my words.

Florida wide receivers are probably the most, one, when you're in Florida and you play wide receivers, I think they're the most savviest receivers because I believe you ought to, like, it is so many wide receiver coaches in the state of Florida that are working. You got a route guard.

You know what I'm saying?

You got gold feet global.

And that's just two people that I know that I work with.

Route guard.

Yeah.

I like that.

That's my dog.

But they're working on their feet.

When you're looking for it, they got some of this.

They got some of that. But I feel like all of them, they need to get a psychiatrist and just share with them some of the things that they went through, you know, from, I'm talking about probably from when they were born.

You know, they need someone to talk to, you know.

And that's how I view the Florida receivers.

But I'll tell you something about Florida.

And I'm pretty sure Callie is like this and other places. But the lower you go in Florida, the more you get out of Florida.
Tallahassee is South Alabama, South Georgia. So if you from like the Panama City, like the panhandle across, like you like an Alabama person, you know, like South Alabama, South Georgia, you know, I feel like Jacksonville, South Carolina, like all that's the same.
You know I'm saying? You're a little wild, but you know what I'm saying? You Southern hospitality. You go down, like, Kenny Shaw is in Orlando.
Kermit with, like, they're whole different people. You know what I'm saying? Then Kevin Benjamin, who's an hour south of Kenny Shaw, and he's from Belle Glade.
You know, he's completely different. And Quan a little hour south of Belle Glade.
He's completely different. These people are they're just different.
I'm grateful. Honestly, I'm great.
That's why I'm so happy I went to Florida State because I was able to build relationships with people that were just, they thought differently. They had different perspectives.
And communicating with them for us to win was a challenge. It really wasn't because I'm a person where I'm for everybody.
You know what I'm saying? And sometimes these players, they were for Orlando. They were for Belle Glade.
They were for Fort Lauderdale. They were for Miami.
You know what I'm saying? More than they were for everybody. Just because they're so, I feel like, Miami, Miami, not Miami, but Florida players are so like, specifically Miami, they running cliques.
Like if you see one person from Miami, you're going to see 10 people from Miami. Right? And those 10 people might be living in the same house.
So when you go and knock on somebody's door saying like, hey, we're going to go throw these routes in the field, you're going to have to say what's up to the cousin. You're going to have to drop out the auntie.
You know what I'm saying? You're probably going to have to kick some Roman noodles because some kids are going to be running around before they come out and say they're ready to go throw. Yeah.
You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. So I think they run in clits because they function off a lot of community.
And I think Florida has a lot of – I would credit the old heads in Florida. How am I defining old heads? I define old heads are people that have experienced high things.
I think they do a good job of giving back to their kids in Florida. Like you see the Ochocincos out there working with the young guys.
Like you see the older people that have been there and done it building up these young athletes that are soon to be what they are one day. So I give that credit to Florida.
But I feel like Florida is definitely the most confrontational receiver out of them all. But I believe that – and I don't – this is my opinion.
I believe that Florida receivers have an entire different work ethic and grind than receivers from other places. Yeah.
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I have to apologize for something. So during COVID, when there was no sports, I started playing video games on NCAA 2014, I believe it was, the old one.
And I'd started streaming it. People were watching.
And I got the OC job at Florida State. And it was the last year that you were in the game.
And I did have a game. I threw six interceptions with you.
Yes. So I apologize.
We did win the Fiesta Bowl, though. Yes.
Okay. So you won throwing six interceptions? No, I don't think I won that game.
I think I lost that game. But I wanted to apologize.
Do you accept my apology? I threw six interceptions with you. No, I don't accept your apology.
But I'm grateful that you shared that with me okay all right all right that was a really nice way to say why the fuck did you throw six interceptions yeah yeah you know i'm very tough on myself yeah you know so so i think you you're not you have to be able to laugh laugh at yourself but you also got a little yeah you got things that that you know you have to eliminate from your energy. Yeah.
You know what I'm saying? That game, yeah. It was the ACC championship game against Georgia Tech.
And that's what I'm saying. Okay.
So once you told me that I met – once you said six, that's a number. I believe in numbers.
And then you said – and I was like, okay, that's eliminated from my mind. I like that.
So I don't forgive him. Okay.
But I'm grateful that he shared that with me because now i'm gonna be able to process that and move forward yeah okay great but but i i feel good about moving on from this i'm gonna eliminate it from my mind as well what about can we get another ncaa game i know like i'm so like i'm so frustrated that playing matting is so challenging i know right now i was like i tell my brother all the time, because he's a young up-and-coming athlete, and he's gonna be a beast. Jonah Winston, be sure.
Like, when I make sure Barstool retweets my last highlight video that I put on Jonah Winston. So, I tell my brother, I wish I would've played Madden more growing up, won Super Bowls on Madden and visualize that because I spent so much time winning Heismans and winning championships on NCAA.
You know what I'm saying? I didn't play enough Madden. You know what I'm saying? So now I'm going back and I'm having to take my rating down from all Madden to all Pro, and then I'm losing to all Pro.
I'm not going to rookie. You know what I'm saying? I got to go to, you know, whatever the next one is.
And I'm like, I'm getting these wins, but this doesn't feel real. You know what I'm saying? And then I play my brother, and he 21 scomping me.
I'm asking, you know, you ask those questions, like, I mean, when you pick your team, like, you play on all man or you play on all pro? You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm all bad. You know, I i'm all bad okay how can i sneak this all pro yes do you have yourself as a starting quarterback when you play mad every single time yeah yeah hell yeah so you you have yourself starting you play as the saints yes james wins is starting and you're trying to win a super bowl i think you need to you need to just grind at it the game has become a lot harder recently made it really tricky.
The grind has started PFT. Okay.
I like that. This is very intentional of me earning a Super Bowl.
You got to see it. Yeah.
No, I believe you. Yeah.
But you guys, even though you probably can't pinpoint the time, but you you saw yourself being in this in this role you visioned it somewhere and i'm like i'm a i'm a big like i know the lord has a vision for me and i have to visualize what i want for myself like that is going to glorify his kingdom by visualizing what I want for

myself to honor him.

You know what I'm saying?

So I think in everything that you do, you've got to find a way to experience

that.

And sometimes it might take six interceptions in college, you know,

against Georgia Tech.

You know what I'm saying?

And then you've got to eliminate that and go back to the next game and win

the Fiesta Bowl.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, I apologize again. It was Georgia Tech.
The Georgia Tech official account made fun of me for it. And I might have thrown you under the bus.
I said it was Jameis threw six picks, not me, even though I was playing the game. I was saying I was offensive.
Don't worry about that. I'm accustomed to that.
Okay. Yes.
Yes. But, yeah, I'm good that we could just bury that now.
I felt like it was weighing on me. I think it stopped us from winning the NADU that year.
Can you keep us up to date on your Madden progress? I want to know when you win a Super Bowl. Yeah, I will.
Yes. Because I think people will believe in you too.
It's starting to click. Once the world can visualize Jameis Winston win a Super Bowl, then I think that's 6 billion people that will be sharing in that vision.
That's going to help you. Yeah.
Yeah. No.
Okay. Well, Jameis, this has been been awesome we want you on anytime you want to come back on uh this like exceeded everything we thought we it's been a long time coming but this was so great and so thankful that you made the trip because it's so much better in person so absolutely thank you so much we really appreciate it we're fans for life so we're not neither of us are jamis one of one no but we have talked to him so we we ride we ride he sends us out if we if he needs to send us out we'll go we'll go muck it up with some people you need any angels in free agency yeah just we got the word say the word we got your back oh man listen the the person i'm praying to he got me yeah yeah but uh i'm i'm grateful for this opportunity to be with you guys you know and to share this energy like you guys are men of increase yeah And that's what I'm grateful for this opportunity to be with you guys, you know, and to share this energy.
Like you guys are men of increase. Yeah.
And that's what I'm trying to, that's why I am going to surround myself with and be unapologetic for it. Yep.
Love it. So I appreciate y'all.
All right. Thank you so much.
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Okay. Wrapping up.
I mean, I hope everyone loved the Jameis interview as much as we did.

That was so much fun.

We will definitely have him on again.

He's going to be Moses.

I feel like we could have talked to him forever.

We can definitely do a whole other interview.

But, yeah, he's the best.

He's going to be Moses.

We need him to get a starting job.

We need more Jameis.

He was in office for eight hours.

We talked about it, but I was thinking back on it because I think that interview was at like 11 a.m. Yeah.
And I think at 5 o'clock, he was like still on the – I was doing something else. I came out of a meeting and went to the golf simulator, and he was just ripping balls.
It was amazing. He just loved it.
I mean, it's nice. We've had Cam Newton and Brandon Marshall, Jameisames chris berman who's coming on wednesday like anyone who wants to come come hang out with us for a day because it's not like just yeah jules not coming to just do an interview it's coming to hang out do it do a bunch of stuff with us so thank you to james for for making the trip for us um so much fun so much fun he is maybe my favorite player ever the nicest dude ever yeah dude ever and now now we're texting with jamis yeah now he's our boy he's our boy he's a great dude best friends uh all right was there anything else that happened today big cat and maybe uh pop culture arts music anything like that that we should cover the grammys the grammy awards yeah no that's what i said i said we got to do a grammys recap we're setting them up.
Yeah. Come on, Max.
Come back. Try not to fart on your walk over here.
But keep it about the Grammys, burrito boy. I'm officially on Max's side.
I'm not. I think he kind of got set up by the universe.
I'm not blaming Diana for accurately reporting because that's her job, to report on things. But this was just like God.
You can only point at God and be like, you put me in this situation. Yeah, it wasn't necessarily like...
If I wasn't sleeping and I was just like outwardly farting, like that would be bad. But like, what am I supposed to...
I don't know. I'm going to say that I have no sympathy for Max.
This is direct karma for saying I hope you have a really safe flight. You had a really safe flight? Yeah.
He was fucking around with airplanes, and what happened to him? He ate a burrito, farted his face off in front of a reporter. Also, I was asleep on the flight today, and the person next to me just ripped open the window in the middle of the flight and woke me up with the sunlight.
Who was next to you? Oh, it was me because I was awake because Hank elbowed me as hard as anyone's ever elbowed me when I was asleep. Also, you're allowed to open up the window shades on the runway.
Yeah, but not like... Well...
You opened it too aggressively. Yeah.
After he aggressively elbowed me. Also, Hank...
You're up. We're 40,000 feet in the air.
There's nothing to see. Hank is so happy this happened to you, Max.
I'm not happy, but Hank is so happy. No, I'm not.
I just said officially. All of you are so happy.
We actually weren't 40,000 feet in the air, there's nothing to see. Hank is so happy this happened to you, Max.
I'm not happy, but Hank is so happy. No, I'm not.
All of you are so happy. We actually weren't 40,000 feet in the air.
I know exactly when it happened because I fell asleep before we took off. You elbowed me before we took off, so I woke up.
And as we were taking off, you fell asleep, and I opened the window to see what it looked like when we were taking off. And also learned something about planes.
It's a 737. The operational ceiling is usually about 33,000.
I guess it could go up to 40,000. But very rarely does that happen.
So why don't you look at a map? All right, Grammys. Grammys.
So Travis Kelsey was there to support Taylor Swift? No. Because she goes to every...
Travis Kelsey was not there. What? Taylor Swift went with Lana Del Rey.
How many touchdowns does she have? Zero. Wait, but Taylor Swift goes to all of Travis Kelsey's games.
Yeah, but he's Super Bowl. Oh.
Okay, but they're playing it right now? Is he here? He's prepping for Super Bowl. Oh.
Interesting. They are here.
Well, actually, the Chiefs and the Commanders are here. So he could have just taken a flight right after the Grammys.
I'm just telling you. I'm just reporting.
I don't think she has a private jet or anything like that that she could put him on. This is such a...
Did Billy Strings win anything? Nope. Tony Mitchell's right now looking great.
Is that incorrect? I don't know. Tony Mitchell looking great.
That's correct. The are bullshit um tracy chapman tracy chapman and luke combs did fast car people were liking it on twitter nice one of the best songs yeah because people were mad that luke combs was doing fast car being like even though tracy chapman i think said like go ahead cover my song so now we get the full circle they did it together yeah Beautiful moment.
Beautiful moment. Alex Earl was there.
How was she looking? She was... No disrespect.
What songs did she sing? She doesn't sing. Braxton Berrios is one of our guys.
He's a thirst trapper. His hair, by the way, has been looking incredible.
That's just a double thirst trap. Yeah, no, they're the hottest couple ever.
I give just nope i was gonna go down his path there uh zach brian really hot sex together i assume yeah that's all i want to say i think that they enjoy having sex with each other they're probably the only they're probably each person is probably the first person that the others had sex with that's like oh now i get why sex is yeah you're hot you You're hot too. Yeah.
Yeah. Zach Bryan was there with our co-worker Brianna Chicken.
Shout out Bri. Shout out Bri.
She looks great. Yep.
Yep. She was sitting like four feet from Taylor Swift.
Pretty cool. I wonder if she said anything about she was like hey they talk about you a lot on pardon my take.
Pervert my take. Yeah.
Pervert my take. Correct.
What was Taylor wearing? A white and black dress. And she had a watch on her neck.
I did not notice that. I love the Swifties who do like the, I think they're called T-Anon maybe, who try to decipher everything that Taylor Swift does.
Taylor Swift is the most obvious person ever whenever she's trying to send a message. She was wearing a necklace that was set to midnight what does that mean something happens at midnight it's like she she she telegraphs all of her stuff how many awards did she win uh she did not win song of the year what she did not who did billy eilish oh for which song barbie song barbie song yeah nice okay yep i saw um killer mike yeah yeah won three grammys rules dang got arrested yeah that rocks that's so wait wait what do you get arrested for we don't know uh don't know okay so as of now i think it rocks um if it's something really bad and that sucks yeah that's good for for street cred but probably sucks for the after party this boy's just so party but But it is good for street cred.
Yeah. Killer Mike's awesome.
Although it was kind of weird because you saw it. It was like they're doing it where the Clippers and the Lakers play.
He was just in the concourse getting arrested. That kind of sucked.
It does suck. So it might have been the thing where they'd been looking for him in L.A.
for a while. We know he's going to be here.
We know he's going to be at the Grammys. Who votes on the Grammys?

I don't know.

The Academy.

Oh, Jay-Z.

PricewaterhouseCoopers. Jay-Z called out the Recording Academy for never giving Beyonce album of the year.

Respect.

Okay, nice.

Big wife guy.

Him, Kyle Juszczyk.

Yep.

Taylor.

That's Kanye, baby.

It's Kanye.

Shout out Kyle Juszczyk's wife for dunking on Quigs.

Yep.

By the way. We stand with her.
Is she? Yeah. I'm a'm a fan of Any fullbacks wife Quiggs is a fucking Piece of shit Yeah Quiggs is the worst Is she She's not making a jacket Alright She can't make a jacket For anybody If they're playing Against her husband I think she already Has made them Yeah she's already Made them You can't make A new one Taylor's not gonna wear twice.
Right. She never does.
And Kristen can't. You can't make something for her that many.
You just can't. Kristen? Is it Krista? Kristen Juszczyk.
Kristen Juszczyk. I would wear a Kristen Juszczyk jersey.
That's how much I like her work. Respectfully.
Would it say the full name? Yeah. And it could even have her husband's number on it and be like a 49ers one.

Yeah.

I just want to call you.

Yeah, yeah.

I feel like that's just whatever.

Taylor Swift did announce a new album.

Midnight.

Wait, a new album or is it a cover of her old Zedmars?

I don't know.

Jake, is that you?

Oh, who here is fucking pumped for the Super Bowl nerd nugget sound? I'm pumped I'm pumped too I'll say I'm pumped I'm so pumped We're not wearing headphones in this studio so I can deal with it I'll be pumped I'm very pumped Taylor Swift. It's usually the headphones.
Taylor Swift announced new... Wait, I just said that.

Yep.

It's called The Tortured Poets Department

and is releasing on April 19th.

Okay, cool.

There's a couple of good ones.

There's a couple of memes ones

that are thrown in here.

Okay, do us the memes ones.

Ozempic is a problem.

Okay.

Because Lainey Wilson,

is that her name?

Used to have a fat ass. Now she does not have a a problem.
Okay. Because Lainey Wilson, is that her name? Used to have a fat ass.

Now she does not have a fat ass.

Okay.

Proveller's backup boy.

Okay.

Oprah Wood.

That's a mean one.

Okay.

Oprah looked good.

Why is that problematic?

Just Hawaii.

Okay, Hank.

Keep going.

Piece it all together. He's saying that Oprah started the fires in Maui.
Oh, you said that. No, no, that's what you're getting to.
You said that. Okay.
I love when Hank gets just little pieces of news. He never actually can piece it all together, but he's just like, Oprah, problem, fires.
Okay, what else? I think that's it. Okay.
That was a great job. Yeah.
You got one, Max? Stevie Wonder Blonde. Confirmed? Confirmed.
Confirmed? How? He presented an award to Mariah Carey this weekend, and she walked up, and he left his hand shaking. Ah.
So Stevie Wonder confirmed Blonde? Confirmed. I still have seen a video.
I've seen a video where he catches a mic stand as it's falling over. I've seen that.
You can feel that. He waved hi to Shaq one time.
He said, hi, Shaq. Stevie Wonder's the best.
I saw him once in concert. It was one of the best concerts I've ever seen.
Yeah, Songs in the Key of Life will change your life. Yes.
Listen to that album. Yes.
All right, well, good job, boys. Great show.
We have something special for the lottery ball this week. We have the Schwamm picking a ball every single episode because he was in the office on Friday.
Wednesday, we have the Schwamm on the show. And we might have someone sitting in Hank's chair to start the show, which I think AWL will be very excited for.
It's Super Bowl week. gonna go all out for for the awl super bowl week so let's kick it to ourselves back in our studio i'm sorry for farting no you aren't i am i i'm embarrassed okay we're gonna wrap up the show uh we have a special guest on wednesday you can see him right now sitting on the couch.
Great interview as always.

Super Bowl tradition with the Schwarm.

And we figured, why not have the Schwarm guest numbers with us all week?

So every single show this week will end with the Schwarm numbers.

We'll let you go first.

So I can pick how many?

Any number.

One number.

One number.

If you get one of these this week.

And this is a tease for the Wednesday show.

Yeah, this is a tease for the Wednesday show. Can't tell tease for the Wednesday show Can't tell you why 22 I like that I'll go 71 40 for Hank 3 for Memes 18 for Jake Shane 21 for Shane If you get this I think we have to retire the ball Look at this thing

I'm not allowed to look

56

So no one was even within 20

Nope, that happens a lot

Love you guys. We're walking away.
I don't know what I'm to say. I'm saying anyway.
Today's another day to find you shining away. I'll be coming for your love of me.
For your love of me. For your love of me.
For your love of me. For your love of me.
Take on me. Take me on me Take Take on me

Take me on

I'll be gone

In a day of tea

Thank you. Take on me Take me on

I'll be gone