Championship Sunday, Lions All Time Loss And The Ravens No Show Sets Up Chiefs/Niners Part 2, Plus Who's Back Of The Week

Speaker 1 Hey, pardon my take, listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube.
Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music.

Speaker 2 Falls here, kids are back in school, vacations are over, and cozy season is officially on. You know what that means? Bombus season is on.

Speaker 2 Bombus makes the most comfortable socks ever, and they even make slippers, tees, underwear, all crafted from premium materials. Perfect for this time of year and cozying up for football watching.

Speaker 2 Their slippers are also Sherpa lined, which feels like you're walking on the clouds. Bombus really has it all.

Speaker 2 And if you head over to bombas.com slash audio, you can use the code audio for 20% off your first purchase. That's bombbas.com slash audio.

Speaker 1 Code audio at checkout. On today's part in my take, Super Bowl 58.
Super Bowl 58 is set. It is 58, right?

Speaker 4 I'm not good with Roman numerals.

Speaker 1 I hate Roman numerals, but

Speaker 1 Super Bowl 58 is set. Chiefs, Niners, rematch from a few years ago.

Speaker 1 We're going to talk about both the AFC Championship game, the NFC Championship game, brutal, brutal loss for the Lions, brutal loss for the Ravens, too, but a different way.

Speaker 1 So we're going to get into that. We're going to do fastest two minutes.
We're going to maybe talk a little basketball. We got who's back of the week, some coach.

Speaker 1 We get more, we have more coach talk to go because PFT, you're about to hire yours, and Bill Belichick might be out of a job.

Speaker 1 So we'll clean up on that and maybe some early thoughts on Super Bowl 58.

Speaker 5 And before we get to all of that, when cool, creamy ranch meets tangy, bold buffalo, the hole is greater than the sum of its sauce.

Speaker 5 Say howdy, partner, to new Buffalo Ranch Sauce, only at McDonald's for a limited time.

Speaker 1 At participating, McDonald's.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's go.

Speaker 1 Now, in the street, there is violence,

Speaker 1 and then a lot of work to be done.

Speaker 1 No place to hang out or washing,

Speaker 1 and then I can't blame all of the songs. Oh, no, we're gonna rock down to electric avenue,

Speaker 1 and then we'll take it higher.

Speaker 1 Oh, we're gonna rock down to electric avenue. It's part of my take isn't about Marshall Sports.

Speaker 1 Welcome to Part of My Take. Today is Monday, January 29th,

Speaker 1 and it's Championship Sunday.

Speaker 1 Championship Sunday. Some sprouts.
Sunday, Sunday, Sunday.

Speaker 1 Nah, gonna get them.

Speaker 1 In Baltimore, where the Ravens offense looked like it was ready for a bad Valentine's Day instead of Super Bowl Sunday because all they could get was likely flowers.

Speaker 1 I say, I say, I say, Isaiah Pacheco made the Ravens look like big chickens scampering to a second quarter score, and the Ravens, much like Forrest Gump, abandoned the run and said, I think I'll go home now.

Speaker 1 I can't even do Forrest Gump. I think I'll go home now.
I think I'll go home now. I think I'll go home now.
I think I'll go home now.

Speaker 4 Me and Jetty was like peas and carriage.

Speaker 1 In a remarkable rookie season, Taylor Swift will be going to her first Super Bowl, and it will be a hot topic. Who will be inside her box for the big game?

Speaker 1 Speaking of Taylor's box, the Ravens watched their season tick-tock away as Jackson Mahomes hit his dance on the city of Baltimore. Chiefs, 17, Ravens, 14.

Speaker 1 Out west, Brock Purdy Woman made a couple big mistakes, huge, in the first half before getting the Niners' offense into Richard Gear.

Speaker 1 Speaking of into Richard Gear, They ran through the A-gap like a couple of hamsters, Colin, scoring two touchdowns, put the Lions up early.

Speaker 1 Josh Burt Reynolds found the center fold of the defense, but couldn't make a play, girl. A Christian escaped the lion's den and found the end zone for the game-winning score.

Speaker 4 And Lieutenant Dan Gamble needs new legs, magic legs, because he bit off his own kneecaps.

Speaker 1 Niners, 34. The Lions, 31.

Speaker 1 And that is your Super Bowl. I just remembered the Niners.
That was, and that's the same team where I saw the play. Yes.
Tom Brady as a young boom. And look at all that hair.
Look at that hair boom.

Speaker 1 Our Super Bowl is set.

Speaker 4 Hey, it's PFT here, reminding you that Boars Head makes game day entertaining elevated and effortless.

Speaker 4 Whether you order catering platters ahead from your local Boars Head retailer, or you create your own spread at home with Boar's Head premium deli meats and cheeses, you are sure to impress your guests.

Speaker 4 My favorites like oven gold turkey or blazing buffalo-style chicken, paired with their classic Vermont cheddar or creamy Munster cheese, are sure to score big and help me elevate my entertainment every time, whether it's for a tailgate or a home gating celebration.

Speaker 4 Seriously, guys, it's a game-changing flavor for every gathering. Boarshead, committed to craft since 1905.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 Super Bowl 58 is set, PFT.

Speaker 1 The Chiefs and the Niners set to meet in Las Vegas in the desert. We're running it back.
We're running it back.

Speaker 4 Last time this happened, this was our last four weeks of fun. Yes.
So R.I.P. to the NCAA tournament in 2024.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Don't say that.

Speaker 4 There will be no Spring League football. Strain.

Speaker 1 New strain of COVID.

Speaker 1 I have just high-level before we get into the games. I've seen some people complain that, like, well, this matchup stinks because we've seen it, whether it be Taylor Swift, the Chiefs, fatigue.

Speaker 1 I don't care. There's nothing that would ever stop me from enjoying the Super Bowl to its maximum.
You know, like, it's the last game of football of the year.

Speaker 1 I can't believe there's actually people like, I'm not going to watch. Shut up.
You're going to watch. You're going to watch.
You're going to like it.

Speaker 4 I almost stopped watching today because they canceled the B-2 flyover in Baltimore because of weather, and then they cut away from the flyover on the West Coast game, which is the least American thing you could do.

Speaker 4 I'd guess you should do it. The most unpatriotic thing.
Well, they tried. They didn't try hard enough.
But it's, you're going to watch the Super Bowl because it's two great teams.

Speaker 4 It's Patrick Mahomes continuing his quest to topple Tom Brady, which might take a while. I've actually got some stats here.
I'd like to see what Hank has to say about these.

Speaker 1 Oh, we're going to get right into it. Yeah, I think that we should.

Speaker 4 I mean, Patrick Mahomes was great.

Speaker 1 We can talk about the other people. about

Speaker 1 the others. Yeah, yeah.
Chiefs 17, Ravens 10, the AFC Championship game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, let's hop right into it.

Speaker 4 All right, so here's some stats for the first six years of the two of them starting in the NFL. Mahomes, 72 and 22.
Tom Brady, 70 and 24. Playoff records, Mahomes, 14 and 3.
Tom Brady, 12 and 2.

Speaker 4 Four AFC titles for Mahomes, 3 for Brady. Two rings for Mahomes playing for a third.
Brady had three rings. And touchdown to interception, 258 to 69 for Mahomes, 167 to 87 for Tom Brady.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I mean, it's tough to deny.

Speaker 6 If he wins a Super Bowl, he's on pace. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I'd say ahead of pace. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's inevitable. And this game was

Speaker 1 crazy because the beginning of the game, it was like, well, this is going to be just Patrick Mahomes surgically dicing up the Ravens defense. That first drive was perfect.

Speaker 1 That second drive was peak Mahomes because they had four third-down conversions that were all Mahomes, especially he had a scramble and then that flip play to Travis Kelsey, which was like, how the hell did this just happen?

Speaker 4 That was vintage, that was backyard stuff.

Speaker 1 It was, it was crazy. So, so, so the game starts, and you're like, well, this is just going to be Mahomes' day.

Speaker 1 Then the Ravens defense showed up, and they played great ball for basically this, like, you know, after they scored, after the Chiefs went up 14-7

Speaker 1 early in the second quarter for the rest of the game, the entire second half, the Chiefs had 98 yards.

Speaker 1 But it didn't matter because it was way more about the Chiefs' defense and what Steve Spagnola did to Lamar Jackson. And I do want to say, real quick, Steve Spagnola,

Speaker 1 he is probably one of, if not the best defensive coordinators of all time. When you think about what he's done, he's got three Super Bowls.

Speaker 1 He stopped the 17-0 or 18-0 Patriots, one of the best offenses of of all time. Held them to how many points? How many do they have?

Speaker 4 17.

Speaker 1 17.

Speaker 1 The Ravens were one of the best teams this year in terms of offense, like completely befuddled the MVP of the league.

Speaker 1 They had before after the game, I don't know if you guys saw, but the shirts, the In Spags We Trust shirts,

Speaker 1 which are awesome. And you can tell, like, every single guy on that defense just trusts everything that Steve Spagnola is doing.

Speaker 1 And he said before the game, be relentless, be a pack of wolves, just get after it. And that's what they did.

Speaker 1 Like, it was Steve Spagnola just ate Todd Munkin and John Harbaugh's lunch for four quarters. That's what we watched.

Speaker 1 And again, it was Patrick Mahomes early, and then it was the Chiefs' defense for the basically for the majority of the game, just completely like making the Ravens look stupid and getting them out of what they do well.

Speaker 1 And he deserves all the credit in the world because that was a masterful game plan they had.

Speaker 4 So I should say that the score of that Super Bowl was actually 17 to 14. So they won with 17 points.
They won with 17 points. Just like the Chiefs did.
This is from Ranny Jeslieri by DVOA.

Speaker 4 We already knew that the 2023 Ravens were incredible, right? The 2007 Patriots were one of the other greatest teams ever by that stat.

Speaker 4 And Spaggs both won big games against those teams by scoring 17 points.

Speaker 1 He was the MVP of this game. And that's not taking anything away from the Chiefs' offense.

Speaker 1 And again, like that Mahomes, that second drive, the first drive was scripted plays that that worked perfectly and we thought oh this is gonna be a long long day for the Ravens defense and like I said the Ravens defense showed up they even forced a field goal off of a or Lamar fumbled that was when I thought the game was like fully fully over but they they did a good job of stopping the Chiefs for the majority of the game it was just the Chiefs defense was just incredible yeah so shout out to Spagnolo did you know that he does an award a weekly award for his defense it's called the cram award whichever team like crams the hardest I love that.

Speaker 4 Like, for hardest hitting big plays, they get the cram award, and the winner of the cram award gets a home-cooked meal from Steve Spagnolo's wife.

Speaker 4 Makes you whatever you want.

Speaker 1 So, you have to cram before the game.

Speaker 4 You cram before the game, and then you cram after the game.

Speaker 1 Okay, because Legerius needs to get the cram award

Speaker 1 for punching out Zay Flowers.

Speaker 4 No, you cram during the game. During the game.
You cram during the game. Yeah, so he crammed the ball right out of Zay Flowers.
It was a cram pie.

Speaker 1 The play of the game. Yeah, that was the play of the game.

Speaker 1 When you fumble at the one-yard line, it's so deflating because you've done all that work you've gone that entire distance and then just to have it happen that's why bill told you don't reach out to one yeah don't reach out at the one so it was yeah it was a chiefs like this is and hank i think you've actually kind of admitted it now that mahomes and the chiefs are the new patriots and just how they do it like this wasn't an explosion of offense by the chiefs it wasn't like they were just i mean they were better than the ravens the right team won but it was like they have shape-shifted year to year and especially even in this year, where it looked like they were like had no chance of going to the Super Bowl to a team that is the toughest team in the league.

Speaker 6 Yeah, and on the road, too. They beat Buffalo at Buffalo.
They beat the Ravens at Baltimore. That obviously adds to the narrative that before was like he could only win at home.

Speaker 6 This playoffs, he's done it on the road.

Speaker 1 They've won 66% of the road playoff games that have been won this playoffs. The Packers are the only other team that won a road playoff game.
That's crazy. Won two.
The Packers won one.

Speaker 1 It's pretty crazy.

Speaker 4 And the defense was the story but we're still going to just talk about mahomes because yeah it's fucking patrick mahomes no i mean that that drive he was really good also i mean there should be some blame on on todd muncin and that offense well lamar we got to get to the defense it was bad the defense for uh the chiefs over the course of the season i think they were tied for 27th in terms of yards per carry allowed and then do you know how many times the ravens ran the ball today yeah eight They ran the ball to the running backs eight times.

Speaker 4 Lamar had a couple others, but they ran the ball with the running backs eight times today.

Speaker 1 They just, it was crazy to watch.

Speaker 1 It felt like they had a game plan, and then the first three and out happened, and they're like, well, we'll just abandon all of this. And Lamar was not good.

Speaker 1 That is a fact. Like, Lamar did not play well.
He was missing receivers early.

Speaker 1 That interception to likely was one of the worst situational awareness balls I've ever seen thrown because you not only have Isaiah likely triple teamed, but you're in a situation where you're down 10 in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 It's like you need to, no matter what, get a field goal here so that you make it a one-score game.

Speaker 1 With Justin Tucker, that's a pretty certain thing that when you're in that, like, what were they at the 30 or 20? And having that happen was just like, how do you have that happen?

Speaker 1 How do you throw that ball?

Speaker 4 Their offense was just Zay Flowers is down there somewhere for most of the game.

Speaker 4 They threw it to likely a couple times. And with Zay,

Speaker 4 when I say they ran the ball eight times, two of those were like little swing passes with Zay Flowers or gadget plays with Zay Flowers.

Speaker 4 So they really only ran the ball with the running back six times over the course of the entire game.

Speaker 1 And yeah, Todd Munkin deserves a ton of blame, but Lamar was not, he was not like precise.

Speaker 1 He had guys, he missed guys routinely all day. A couple deep passes he overthrew.

Speaker 4 And he was taking forever in the pocket, too. Like Lamar should run with the ball like a full half second or full second before when he was taking off today.

Speaker 4 Because you wait that extra time, then he gets caught from behind for like a one-yard gain. Yeah.
It completely neutralized Lamar's ability.

Speaker 4 Although he did have an awesome play where he threw and caught the ball at the same time. That was incredible.
Maybe Bill Pollan was right about that. All-time play.
Maybe he's a wide receiver. Yes.

Speaker 4 But yeah, it was an all-time play, and he got caught from behind just barely.

Speaker 4 I think he probably would have scored a touchdown if he had just stepped out of that one tackle, but that was an awesome play.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the game, if you're a Ravens fan, that game had to have been like torture because it was constantly the Ravens, like, after it settled down and it was 14-7,

Speaker 1 and it was like, okay, the Ravens defense is starting to make some stops.

Speaker 1 They sacked Patrick Mahomes for the first time in these playoffs, which is crazy that he had gone two full games without being sacked.

Speaker 1 They started to make some stops, and then you have the Zay Flowers big play taunting penalty, which we both agree, taunting should not be a penalty in the NFL. They're pros.

Speaker 1 If you want to do it in the college, that's fine because you want to just pretend like, oh, yeah, they're amateur athletics, whatever.

Speaker 1 The guys are putting their life on the line. They're playing a passionate game.
This is the biggest game of their lives. You should be able to taunt.

Speaker 4 You should be be allowed to taunt. There are a couple exceptions.
I think at the point that it turns into a delay of game, probably flag it for a delay of game.

Speaker 4 If it's that excessive, if it's just a taunt, you can do whatever you want. But if you step over the guy, if you step over him, he's allowed to hit you in your nuts.
Yeah. Besides that, it's all fair.

Speaker 1 I just, it's like a passionate game. These guys are playing a million miles an hour.
They're,

Speaker 1 you know, bodily harm and all these things. And

Speaker 1 you're going to get upset. You're going to throw a flag because he stood over them.
Fuck that. Let him taunt.

Speaker 4 It's the AFC championship game. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Joe Burrow agreed. He tweeted, let the boys taunt.

Speaker 4 Yeah, let them taunt. Let the boys taunt.
Taunting's fun. And if you want to stop them from taunting, then stop them from catching the ball 50 yards away.

Speaker 1 Someone pointed out that if you let them taunt, you got to let them fight. I kind of okay with that, too.
It's a little scrap. Yeah, hockey does it.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But they did have, like, the Ravens just kept on.

Speaker 1 It was self-inflicted wound after self-inflicted wound, whereas like even in the end of the first half, when Kyle Vinnoy gets that penalty, Travis Kelsey was doing a masterful job of just goading them the entire day.

Speaker 1 And then you have the Zay Flowers taunt, and the Zay Flowers fumble. And it's like they keep getting close and they can't cut the deficit.
And then the likely interception, it just was torture.

Speaker 1 It was torture for the Ravens because they had these moments where you thought that they were going to be back in the game and they just kept on falling short in these big moments.

Speaker 1 And it's all credit to the Chiefs' defense and their game plan.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Mike Florest's head is spinning.
He's so happy right now. Yeah.
Mike Florest was right. We owe him an apology.

Speaker 4 I have a question for you, Big cat.

Speaker 4 It seems like Jason Kelsey, brother of Travis Kelsey, the brothers, don't know if you knew that. It seems like he's the biggest Chiefs fan in the world right now.
He is.

Speaker 4 He's wearing Chiefs gear, head to toe, loves the Chiefs, rooting for Travis.

Speaker 4 Would it irritate you if you were an Eagles fan seeing Jason Kelsey root so hard for the Chiefs? I don't think so. You don't think so? No.
If you were an Eagles fan?

Speaker 1 I actually don't. I think brother, like being brothers kind of trumps everything.

Speaker 4 Some are saying, I saw a couple tweets

Speaker 4 that he's a bigger Chiefs fan than Max is an Eagles fan.

Speaker 1 It would not bother me. It would not bother me.
Brother we love. Yeah.
I think that's one of those things that if you're trying to find an issue with that, you need to touch grass, as the kids say.

Speaker 4 I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 Go find another hobby.

Speaker 4 That's interesting. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I'm being dead honest. Like, you've got to root for your brother.
Like, you have to in that moment. So,

Speaker 1 I mean, he has been at the games. They had a big hug after the game.
Travis Kelsey, by the way, should, I don't know, we should, like, put out an investigation against him because

Speaker 1 he looked so washed for the second half of the season, and now he looks incredible again. What happened? Was he just ropa-doping us?

Speaker 4 He was playing us. He was.
I think he was playing the long game on it.

Speaker 4 I think the Chiefs, the Chiefs as a whole, might have been ropodoping us the entire season, trying to get the people to say, oh, the Chiefs can't do it this year. This team sucks.

Speaker 4 And then they have all the bulletin board material they could ever want.

Speaker 4 Maybe the entire Chiefs, maybe Kadarius Toney was actually the best signing of the offseason to tank a few games, make them lose in very embarrassing fashion, and now all of a a sudden, everybody doesn't take Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs' offense seriously at all.

Speaker 1 Kadarius Toney, with an all-time

Speaker 1 idiot move of going on Instagram Live, being like, I'm not hurt.

Speaker 1 They're keeping me out of the game. It's like, dude, we all knew that.

Speaker 1 The Chiefs were basically being nice to you, saying that you're hurt, so you can save some face, maybe go to another team next year. They're not playing you because you're a detriment to the team.

Speaker 1 He was the last person to realize that was what was going on.

Speaker 4 Maybe, I don't think they can say that you're sitting out the game if you're injured, injured, if you don't have an injury. Yeah.
But I also think that

Speaker 4 they said in the report, right, it was like for

Speaker 4 injury and also personal reasons.

Speaker 4 The personal reason being like you're not very good at football. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I have something else I want to say about Patrick Mahomes that was, there'll probably be people like, you're glazing him so hard.

Speaker 1 Patrick Mahomes deserves a ton of credit for how he's handled this season in moments that he's been criticized publicly, whether it be complaining about the refs after the Packers game, complaining about the refs after the Bills game, he deserves a ton of credit because what Patrick Mahomes never did this entire season is give any type of complaint publicly about his wide receivers.

Speaker 1 And it's paying off now because he basically...

Speaker 1 He stood in front of the bullets for these guys to suck for the majority of the year and get their feet wet and get a Rashi Rice to a point where he's like an actually really good receiver that you can trust.

Speaker 1 And I feel like that's an underrated part of his leadership where he was complaining about everything else, but deliberately never saying like, my receivers just suck.

Speaker 1 Who would have blamed him if he had said that after all they went through this regular season?

Speaker 1 And I think that's a key piece of the Chiefs in these playoffs and being able to play like they're about to win another Super Bowl in his ability to keep these guys together and these like young guys, their confidence doesn't get shattered because the best player in the world is like, yeah, you guys suck.

Speaker 4 I liked Andy Reid's play call at the end of the game, too, when he was like, it was the ultimate, they'll never see this coming. Yeah, MVS.
And they hit MVS way down the field on that play.

Speaker 4 Like, nobody thought that's the guy they were going to go to with that much time.

Speaker 4 Like, with that important of a play happening at that moment, it's like, no, they're going to throw it probably to Rice or to Kelsey, or they're going to try to give the ball to Pacheco somehow.

Speaker 4 But no, they went to the guy that probably hadn't. There were a lot of times this season where Mahomes, you're right, could have just like destroyed the ego of this guy.

Speaker 4 And maybe he did behind the scenes. I don't know.

Speaker 4 definitely, but definitely not in the press when he didn't even look like he was thinking that way.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he just would blame the we all, we all criticize him because he looked like a baby sometimes complaining about the refs and all this stuff.

Speaker 1 It's like I'm thinking back to it, I'm like, that was probably a little bit deliberate where it's like he's going to find anything but his receivers to blame.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, and MVS is a perfect example. Like, MVS gets a lot of shit.
He obviously has problems catching the ball, which is his job.

Speaker 1 MVS also gets asked to catch a lot of the difficult catches because he's so fast.

Speaker 4 Over the shoulder ones.

Speaker 1 Right, right. So there's a little bit of like,

Speaker 1 he's not catching, you know, five-yard slants where it's easier to catch.

Speaker 1 But yeah, that's a guy who his confidence could have waned. And then in the big moment, Patrick Mahomes trusts to throw him a perfect ball to seal the game and go back to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 Yeah, if you're a Ravens fan, you're probably pretty upset because

Speaker 4 it seemed like this was the healthiest that the Ravens could possibly be. Yeah.
Over the last like three seasons, I think today was probably the Ravens at their healthiest that they've been.

Speaker 4 Maybe like week one of the 2021 season. And

Speaker 1 Kyle Hamilton was awesome. He was so good.
So, so good. Zay Flowers was awesome.
Obviously, he fumbled, but he was their offense for a while there.

Speaker 4 And then he cut his hand on the bench.

Speaker 1 Yeah, in frustration.

Speaker 1 And I don't know, like, Lamar, obviously, the easy hot take thing to say is like Lamar can't, you know, he choked again in the playoffs, and it does suck because that is what we've, that's all we've seen.

Speaker 1 We have not seen him step his game up and get to that next level. This was the moment to get to the next level.
And he did not, it was just weird watching the Ravens, especially in the first half.

Speaker 1 It felt like they came out being like, we're going to win no matter what. And they got punched in the mouth, and then they were just chasing it for the rest of the game.

Speaker 4 Lamar has these games in the playoffs, though. Like, this was not the same Lamar that we've seen for the entire season, where he has the lowest offensive output, the lowest number of points scored.

Speaker 4 Right. Where he just turns into a different player.
That happens once every playoffs with him.

Speaker 1 It sucks.

Speaker 4 It It sucks if you're a Ravens fan. Sucks if you're a player on the Ravens.
Sucks if you're Lamar, too, because now the narrative is fully there.

Speaker 1 And I mentioned this to you in private, but I would like to make it in public.

Speaker 1 And everyone can chime in here, was watching this game

Speaker 1 on a bigger level, obviously these two guys, Mahomes and Lamar. Lamar's about to be the MVP again.
He's an incredible quarterback. I'm not going to diminish that.

Speaker 1 But was it just watching the Justin Fields versus Caleb Williams debate play out in real time? Like, one guy can make all the passes. One guy can,

Speaker 1 he's a good passer, but when things get tight, windows get tight, moments get tight, the passes aren't exactly precise like they have been maybe earlier in the season.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I can see where you're coming out with that. The first half for Mahomes was just electrifying.
Yeah. The ball wasn't touching the ground.
I think what he completed. 10 for 10.

Speaker 4 His first 10 were completions.

Speaker 1 He was out of control.

Speaker 4 And then I think the 11th one might have been a drop. Yeah.
So, yeah, he was very, very good.

Speaker 4 I think that Justin is different from Lamar, though. No, I know.

Speaker 1 Lamar is way better. I'm saying that.
There's no debate. I'm just saying, like,

Speaker 1 when the big moments happen, you have to have a guy who you trust passing the ball. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And Lamar, I thought I trust passing the ball, but there was moments today where I was like, that likely interception was so bad. Again, he was missing some short throws early.
And you could call.

Speaker 1 If you want to say the play calling was so bad that he never had a chance, I actually will buy it because it was so baffling to watch what the Ravens were doing offensively. But yeah, I just,

Speaker 1 it will follow him because this is another moment where it's like we need Lamar to make these big-time throws, and they just weren't there.

Speaker 4 And the deep balls, too. The deep balls were a problem.
Right. So the deep balls to, he had a couple to Odell.

Speaker 4 There was a very funny one where Odell put his hand up like Randy Moss when he got two steps on the cornerback.

Speaker 4 And then the second the hand went up, he slowed down so much that the cornerback was just all over him. Ball was still overthrown by like three, four yards.

Speaker 4 There were a couple of those to Beckham, and then there were a couple deep ones. I want to say that there were to Aguilar maybe that were overthrown that same way.

Speaker 4 But yeah, when he's just, if he gets a good pocket and everything's on time, he's a great passer.

Speaker 4 If he has to move around a little bit and he's trying to decide whether or not he's going to take off and run or whether or not he's going to stay in the pocket and throw, that's when he doesn't have that exact touch that you want.

Speaker 1 Right. And maybe it's maturity that I'm trying to find a way to not like just knee-jerk winners and losers.
That guy stinks. That guy's good.
Because I still think Lamar's a great, great.

Speaker 1 He's a franchise quarterback. He's a top-five quarterback.
But this was a disappointing game. No other way you can look at it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Speaking of which, I just wanted to throw. No, you know what? I'll do that at the end of the show.
I have a stat at the end of the show I'll do so that we'll just keep it.

Speaker 1 We'll keep it to the end of the show. Okay.
At the very end of the show.

Speaker 1 In terms of the Chiefs and going back to the Super Bowl, I know people are very tired of the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 This is the next step in greatness that the whole country starts to hate you.

Speaker 1 They had that, I think, meme, did memes post it? The AFC Championship game from 2019, where it was like, who's rooting for the Chiefs and who's rooting for the Patriots?

Speaker 1 And it was just New England rooting for the Patriots and the entire country rooting for the Chiefs. And then it was this year, who's rooting for the Ravens, who's rooting for the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 It was just Kansas City and Missouri rooting for the Chiefs and the entire country rooting for the Ravens.

Speaker 4 Was that one of those maps? Was that a Jeff D. Lowe map?

Speaker 1 Black map. It feels right.
Like, everyone was rooting against the Chiefs. That's the next step in greatness where the whole world happened to the Warriors.

Speaker 1 Like, it's just, this is what, this is what you get when you're this great all the time. The, the 31 other teams do not want you to succeed anymore.

Speaker 4 Yeah, this is, it's them against the world, quite literally. Yeah.
I do agree with that. The Chiefs, like, say what you want about them, but I think they're more fun than most dynasties like this.

Speaker 4 Because it's hard to watch, and Steph Curry is the same way. I would equate them to being like, you can watch those two teams play and be like, holy shit, it's amazing.

Speaker 4 I love watching what this guy does.

Speaker 4 There's some dynasties where you watch players and you're like, I'm just sick of this shit. I'm completely over it.
But Mahomes is good for like one or two plays a game that you'll never see. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And you have to like appreciate that greatness as it's happening. So I think people can be like, nah, I'm sick of the Chiefs, but also, holy shit, this is fun.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hank, do you, I mean, you see it.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I'm sick of them. I don't agree with that.
Yeah, I root against them as hard as I can.

Speaker 6 Not fun to watch. I mean, Mahomes is great.
He played great.

Speaker 6 With that being said, they didn't play great in the second half. Lamar Jackson was just nowhere to be found.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, that's kind of how the Chiefs have been, though, this year, where they're, I mean, it's, I think the stat is something crazy, like 16 and 2 to the second half under.

Speaker 1 Like, they just, their offense kind of goes into whatever needs to be done, not anymore, and their defense starts to shut teams down. Like, Chris Jones, even, Nate Tice, who does a great job.

Speaker 1 He does a podcast with Robert Mays.

Speaker 1 He had a stat where Chris Jones, not that he's like taking plays off, but his stats first half to second half are like insanely different because he's just kind of feeling out the game.

Speaker 1 And then in the second half, he's like, I'm going to be the closer. I'm going to shut everyone down.

Speaker 4 That's the Vince Young. First half, chill out.

Speaker 1 Second half, go the fuck off.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 there is something about how the Chiefs have.

Speaker 1 That's kind of how their season has gone. Where

Speaker 1 when they win games, it's like punch them in the mouth, get up big, and then not hold on, but like,

Speaker 1 the game slows, they slow down the game, you know, and their defense shows up. It sucks to watch because they just suffocate you.

Speaker 4 Is it good for Tom Brady fans, such as yourself, Hank, that all this greatness from Mahomes is shining a greater light on how good Tom Brady was?

Speaker 1 Oh, good point.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I mean, they keep showing up.

Speaker 4 I wouldn't have read those amazing stats from Tom Brady if Patrick Mahomes wasn't doing this back-to-back.

Speaker 6 Brady was 2-0 against him in the playoff career, which is you can always hang your head on that. But it feels like the magic has worn out.

Speaker 6 The Chiefs are going to blow past the 49ers in the Super Bowl. Ooh.

Speaker 1 Early prediction. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They just find a way. They find a way, and they have completely changed.
Think about the Chiefs winning their Super Bowl the last time they played the Niners.

Speaker 1 That defense wasn't great, and that offense was explosive. Now their offense can still be explosive at times because it's Mahomes, but their defense is carrying a huge load.

Speaker 4 They were down going into the fourth, right, against those Niners teams? Yeah. The Garoppolo overthrow in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and they're pretty much winning by 11, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 And the 49ers, it feels like they should have lost both of their playoff games. The Chiefs went into Buffalo, beat Buffalo, went into Baltimore, beat Baltimore.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it wasn't pretty, but it was like, yeah, they went in two tough places to play and beat teams. They were underdogs in both games, and that's just Patrick Mahomes.
as an underdog.

Speaker 1 He's an underdog again in the Super Bowl. It's fucking insane.
I'm going to do a game of the year on the Chiefs. San Francisco was up 20 to 10 with just more than six minutes left in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was their defense.

Speaker 1 Yeah, their defense wasn't great, and Patrick Mahomes' offense and Tyreek Hill and all that. But this also goes back.
I mean, again,

Speaker 1 we've said it a million times, but the Tyreek Hill not signing him to a long-term deal turns out to be genius because they have remade their defense.

Speaker 1 Legerius Sneed is one of the best cornerbacks in the league.

Speaker 1 They're young everywhere, and that's just incredible roster management, like the Patriots used to do, where they would just, they'd have to just have a whole new roster of guys around Tom Brady, and you know, if you have Tom Brady, you're going to win.

Speaker 4 Also, Mahomes is playing on a sweetheart hometown deal, too. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Remember, like, the day after he signed the deal, people were like, well, he's already underpaid. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Basically. Well, he's one of those athletes, like, it's him and LeBron, where it's like, if it was free market, they'd get paid a billion dollars.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, truly. Yeah.
If there was no such thing as a salary, yeah, right.

Speaker 1 Jerry Jones. What is he worth to your franchise? A billion dollars.

Speaker 4 Jerry Jones would give away his entire family for Patrick McMahon if he could. Easily.

Speaker 1 Easily. Easily.

Speaker 1 So Andy Reid also going for potentially in the goat conversation.

Speaker 1 Again, we've had this debate. We said the debate was whether there would be a debate,

Speaker 1 which I think we're going to be right about that.

Speaker 1 He still has a long way to go to get to Bill Belichick, but if he wins back-to-back Super Bowls, which hasn't been done since Bill Belichick, three in however many years this has been, and going to four, and he's gone to two, he's gone to the Super Bowl with two different franchises.

Speaker 1 Pretty crazy.

Speaker 4 Really crazy, yeah. So I think you're right.
I think if he does do this, then

Speaker 4 we'll talk about it. Yeah.
I won't say that he's obviously has a long way to go to get there, but he also had

Speaker 4 a pretty good, successful run in Philly for a long time. Yeah.
Just couldn't get to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Last thing, we're going to get just completely drowned in Taylor Swift talk.

Speaker 4 You know that. Yeah, I mean, it's already happened.
It's already happened. You see, Andy Reed did point to each other.

Speaker 1 I've drowned. So they pointed at each other.

Speaker 4 In the post-game, they pointed at each other. They looked to share a little bit of a moment there.
I saw a picture that was going around. I don't know if it's real or not.
Yeah, she's suing.

Speaker 1 How many fingers did he have? He had six that I could see. In the point.
He was pointing all six fingers at her.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so it seems like sparks were flying in that post-game interaction there.

Speaker 4 Also, if you watch the video of Jason and Travis saying what's up to each other, dapping each other up, Taylor sneaks around. She lets them have their moment.

Speaker 4 She falls into the background, walks around, and makes a B-line towards who?

Speaker 1 Jeff Darlington. Ooh.

Speaker 1 He had another viral tweet about her. He was the one who tweeted out the point.
Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Also, Tony Romo saw Taylor Swift. That was fun.
She complimented him. Yeah, well, she's got bad taste.

Speaker 1 Bad taste in men.

Speaker 4 I have a take. I have a take.
I think that the Super Bowl should be announced by the best announcers that year. Well, just like the game is played by the best teams that year.

Speaker 4 We're going to get Tony Romo and we're going to get Jim Nance and Tony Romo is going to annoy the fuck out of America. It should be Greg Olson and Jim Nance.

Speaker 1 Well, good thing we have an alternate option this year, Nickelodeon. Oh.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I have a take, and this is, I'll say a friend of the show told me this. He does not, he has no inside information, but I want to also protect his identity.

Speaker 1 He has a theory that this might be Jim Nance's last football game. Oh, really? Yeah, he did retire from March Madness this past year.

Speaker 4 He's going to do the Masters.

Speaker 1 He's going to do golf. But I started thinking about it.
We've had a trade, or we've had potential trades in broadcasters before.

Speaker 1 I think, wasn't there a deal like Al Michaels?

Speaker 4 Al Michaels was traded for the Wrights as Waldo the Rabbits. Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 All right. So what, why doesn't CBS, if they lose Jim Nance, because then we're going to get just stuck with Tony Romo.

Speaker 1 And Tom Brady might be coming into the mix, Fox. Why doesn't CBS trade for Greg Olson? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Greg Olson is so good. Yeah.
And I know he's a friend of ours, but he's so good. He's like, just trade for Kevin Burkhart and Greg Olson.
Have Tom Brady do it with Jim Gray.

Speaker 1 Tony Romo, just go play golf.

Speaker 4 He is actually. He really doesn't really call games.

Speaker 1 I know, Jake, it's a joke. He is.
That's all he does is he does podcasts with Jim Gray. That's it.
Tom Brady only does Jim Gray.

Speaker 4 So I think we said this last year, but Greg Olson did so good in the Super Bowl that he at least gives Fox something to think about because they've got

Speaker 4 how many millions invested in Tom Brady on like a futures contract

Speaker 4 whenever Tom decides to show up.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 4 Like you could maybe even trade Tom the rights to Tom Brady. Yeah.

Speaker 1 CBS. Get a son for 375.
Get Greg Olson, swap with Tony Roman. Tony Romo also had an all-time no-no in the broadcast booth when he's like, and that's the game.
And what was it, like five minutes left?

Speaker 1 And I think it was after the likely interceptions. Like, you don't do that.

Speaker 4 That's a game almost.

Speaker 1 Yeah, almost.

Speaker 1 Yeah, pretty much. That's the game.
Yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 4 Yeah, no, what they should do,

Speaker 4 I think they should trade Romo for the rights to Tom Brady, to CBS, keep Greg Olson on Fox.

Speaker 1 And Jim Nance would probably stay if he got to call games with Tom Brady.

Speaker 4 If he got to work with Brady, yeah. And then, yeah, then Romo gets to go do whatever go vacation.

Speaker 1 We solved it all. Yeah.
Perfect.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Chiefs back in the Super Bowl.
And they're underdogs. I'm going to make it a game of the year.

Speaker 1 Are you going to do it, Hank? Yeah, I already did. Yeah.
It feels like the Chiefs, like, they're inevitable. Patrick Mahomes is inevitable.
I'm sick of just getting burned. I have to reassess

Speaker 1 my strategy with futures, and maybe I should introduce the word hedging into my life because this was now four great values that I lost in 13 months, all to Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 4 But it's good value.

Speaker 1 That's the thing. It's great value.
It was a good bet. Well, people are like, oh, you're such an idiot for betting the Ravens.
Like, dude, I bet him in August at 18-1.

Speaker 1 You would love to have an 18-1 ticket going to the championship game as a four and a half-point favorite. The part that I fail at is the hedging.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I still haven't figured out which way I'm going to bet during the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 You're right.

Speaker 4 You're right. He's inevitable.
But now I feel like everybody is saying Patrick Mahomes is inevitable.

Speaker 1 Well, he's been inevitable for a while now, though.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but everyone's realizing it. I don't know.
I'm going to stand by.

Speaker 1 But I've realized

Speaker 6 comparisons, it's like they said that too, and he always won.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, I stand by.

Speaker 4 I'm going to run the numbers. I'm going to crunch them, and

Speaker 4 I'm going to trust the Dax.

Speaker 1 There's still going to be a lot of people who bet on the Niners. I said on Friday, I was like, if I didn't have the Ravens future, I'd bet on the Chiefs in this game because

Speaker 1 that's just what he does.

Speaker 1 So I didn't even, I saw it coming. I probably could have done something, but I'm too stupid to do something.

Speaker 4 But I did see it.

Speaker 4 You were pot committed at that point. Right, exactly.

Speaker 1 It's like, you know, it's fun to have something that you ride for an extended period of time. To hedge out of that, come on.
But I should probably reassess this situation.

Speaker 1 The situation is fluid.

Speaker 1 What were you going to say, Jake? I enjoy watching this run of greatness.

Speaker 1 I know a lot of people are sick of it, but you're going to look back one day and be like, damn, I got to watch Mahomes and Kelsey do this year after year after year.

Speaker 1 And it's like, as a neutral party, I'm like, this is cool to watch. Hank, I want Hank's thoughts right away.
I'm sick of it.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I know you are.

Speaker 1 That disgusts you, what Jake just said. Yeah, and it's going to disgust a lot of people.

Speaker 1 I like watching it.

Speaker 4 As a fan of an AFC team, that's especially disgusting.

Speaker 4 Like a team that has title aspirations, that maybe gets one of Mahomes's

Speaker 4 biggest weapons.

Speaker 1 They've got a few weeks in the past, it's like, all right, this is cool.

Speaker 4 Yeah, as a fan of an NFC team that hasn't been to a Super Bowl in, what, 34 years, 33 years, I'm okay with watching greatness at this level. But if I was a fan of an AFC team, I would hate him.

Speaker 1 You're also a much more. If Patrick Mahomes was the NFC, I'd hate him so much.

Speaker 4 I would hate him. Oh, I would hate him.
If I lost to him in a Super Bowl as an NFC team, I would hate him.

Speaker 1 Yes. Oh, I'd hate his guts so bad.
But again, I don't live and die by my fandom.

Speaker 1 You like to watch the story. Exactly.
This is a great story for the history of football.

Speaker 1 It would have been great if Lamar had won a Super Bowl too.

Speaker 1 It would have been a great story for the history of my life.

Speaker 1 Or the Bills.

Speaker 4 Or the Bills. Bills would have been a bit more.
Or the Lions.

Speaker 1 Or the Dolphins. Or the Dolphins.
Or the Steelers. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Or the Browns. You get twisted in any way.
Or the Texans. So the point is, what you're saying is dumb because literally anyone who gets to the Super Bowl, there's a story.

Speaker 1 Yes, but these types of stories. If the Browns were playing in the Super Bowl this year, it would be an incredible story, would it not? It would.
If the Texans were? The longer version of the Texas.

Speaker 1 Actually, the Steelers are the only story that probably would have sucked. Yeah.
That's it. Like every other AFC team, there would have been at least a cool story.

Speaker 4 Yeah, with the Steelers, I don't know what the story would have been. It would have just been like Tomlin.
Like, the average team overachieves their way to greatness.

Speaker 4 All UC students out there have something to hope for.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is why you never get divorced. Yeah.
Just stick it out. Stay with it.
You're fine.

Speaker 4 Stay with it. Eventually, you'll have one night of great sex.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Have another kid, another quarterback.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 You just stick to it. Save the franchise.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Again, I mean,

Speaker 1 it was just a masterclass by the Chiefs' defense, and Mahomes' first two drives were just so, I mean,

Speaker 1 the ball didn't hit the ground. It was insane.
It was crazy.

Speaker 1 That second drive, I know the first drive was great because he completed every pass.

Speaker 1 That second drive, though, was that was so like that's what breaks your back if you're watching, if you're rooting for a team against Mahomes, because it was four third downs that he picked up all himself and just big play after big play after big play.

Speaker 1 You just know he's going to be there.

Speaker 4 And when he completed that pass where he got hit in the face, at that point, I thought it was over. He kind of ran in.

Speaker 1 It was like the arm.

Speaker 4 When that shit happens, then you know that there's something weird going on.

Speaker 4 It's going to be one of those games. Yeah, he got punched.
It was a clothesline. It was bad.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I'm not, I can't say that I'm rooting for the Chiefs, except I'm just going to bet on them because they are inevitable. Like, that's how I feel about the Chiefs at this point.

Speaker 1 I don't, I would love for our good friend Kittle to win a Super Bowl,

Speaker 1 but I'm going to emotionally set myself ready for Patrick Mahomes to win it again. And by doing that, I'm just going to bet on him.

Speaker 4 And we should go back and watch that Bucs Chiefs Super Bowl. How did they stop him?

Speaker 4 What's the magic?

Speaker 1 The Chiefs' offensive line was completely decimated.

Speaker 4 That's how they stopped him. It was a home game.

Speaker 1 I think they didn't have anyone. I think they literally had no offense.
And that was right. That was the end of the

Speaker 1 big contracts not on the offensive line. And they basically shifted.

Speaker 1 And the Chiefs' offensive line has been awesome. They were so

Speaker 4 good today, especially considering that Thunie had a pec tear. Yeah.
Like, what the fuck? You're just able to put another guy and substitute for one

Speaker 4 in the league and just not lose any steps whatsoever.

Speaker 1 But that was that Bucks Super Bowl was the Chiefs had no offensive lineman left. And I actually weirdly watched back.
I've been,

Speaker 1 I guess it's not weird because I like football a lot, but I've been watching back old Super Bowls like the

Speaker 1 condensed cut on YouTube. And I watched that a few days ago, and Mahomes had like no time and was running for his life on every play.

Speaker 4 They had like no fans in the stands, too, right?

Speaker 1 No, they did have fans. They had

Speaker 1 first responders in the stands.

Speaker 4 It's pretty full. So, we need another pandemic to stop Mahomes.
Yeah, the only thing that can stop him is a COVID year.

Speaker 6 Well, if they beat the 49ers in the Super Bowl, watch out, World.

Speaker 4 Watch out, World.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't like that. That's not great.
What did you guys think of that pregame kerfuffle? The what? The kerfuffle.

Speaker 4 The kerfuffle before the game?

Speaker 1 Justin Tucker.

Speaker 4 Travis Kelsey bullying a poor, helpless kicker. Yeah.
Is that the message that we want to send to people? Is that like that's cool now?

Speaker 4 That's what you should do is pick the weakest, skinniest, best singer on the field and then just treat them like dirt. It was awesome.
It was good.

Speaker 4 I liked it because everything about this was leading to a big game. It was like these two teams don't like each other.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there was another one.

Speaker 1 It was like one Raven versus like six Chiefs before the game kicked off. I want that.
I want the anger to be just boiling over right before kickoff.

Speaker 4 I want these two teams to hate each other. I want them to despise each other.
I want them to try to

Speaker 4 bring knives on the field. I want it to be the last Boy Scout.
I want as much

Speaker 4 a possibility for violence to happen at any given second.

Speaker 1 I got one last question for us before we go to the NFC Championship game.

Speaker 1 Will you trust Lamar next year when they're in the playoffs?

Speaker 4 Probably because I'm dumb and I've got the attention span of a goldfish. So if Lamar has another MVP season, I'll probably be like, you know what? The playoffs playoffs are a small sample size.

Speaker 4 You have to look at the odds. The odds are Lamar is going to be good.

Speaker 1 Because I love watching Lamar play football, and he's so much fun, and he has been so good. But this one hurts if

Speaker 1 you're standing on the Lamar, like, you know, he's up there in terms of passers with all these other guys. Because

Speaker 1 it didn't look like Joe Burrow or Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen has looked at times in like these big games.

Speaker 4 He can have these types of games, though, as long as he runs with the ball. And he was like a half second, like I said.
I know. He was a half second late leaving the pocket for almost the entire game.

Speaker 4 I know. So if he has these bad games, it's okay as long as he's still breaking off 15, 20 yard runs left and right.
That's fine.

Speaker 4 That's actually a trade-off most people would make to have a guy that throws like a bad boneheaded interception, but at the same time ends up with 90 yards rushing in a touchdown.

Speaker 1 All right, yeah, all right.

Speaker 4 I'm going to trust him. You can talk yourself back

Speaker 1 into Lamar Jackson imagine if Dak had thrown that pick. Yeah, it would have been great.
That would have been incredible.

Speaker 4 There were three guys right there.

Speaker 1 There were three guys. Three dudes.
And it was all you needed was, you needed a field goal. You had to have a field goal in that situation.
Yeah. He's like, fuck it.
I'm going to throw it into

Speaker 1 Isaiah likely covered by three guys.

Speaker 4 For blame,

Speaker 4 I'm giving 70% of the blame to Lamar and then 30% to Todd Munkin.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Todd Muncin deserves a lot of blame.

Speaker 1 He got his lunch ate by Spaggs

Speaker 1 and by his own doing, his own stupidity. It did just feel like like the Ravens thought they were going to win that game and they didn't realize that it was a game until the second half.

Speaker 1 All right, let's take a quick break and then we'll talk NFC Championship game.

Speaker 7 The Pro Football Football Show is presented by the Chevy Silverado. Built for the hustle, ready for the game, Chevy Silverado is America's most dependable full-size truck.

Speaker 7 Whether you're grinding through the week or gearing up for kickoff, the Silverado is one ride that's always game ready. Just like football, it's about grit, grind, and getting it done.

Speaker 7 Head to Chevy.com to learn more and build your own Chevy Silverado.

Speaker 2 Also, Experian is your big financial friend, helping you find ways to save, manage your credit, and apply for cards labeled No Ding Decline.

Speaker 3 No approval? No ding.

Speaker 2 Download the Experian app today. Disclaimer: Applying for no Ding Decline cards won't hurt your credit scores if you aren't initially approved.

Speaker 2 Initial approval will result in a hard inquiry, which will impact your credit scores.

Speaker 1 Experian!

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 NFC Championship game. San Francisco 49ers 34.
Detroit Lions 31. We should start with the Lions and what will be one of the most horrific losses.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was a horrific, horrific loss if you're a Lions fan.

Speaker 4 Bad way to lose a football game. You had

Speaker 4 CeeDee Deuce waving goodbye to the Niners fans in the first half. First half was all Lions.

Speaker 1 The first half looked like the Niners were one of the worst teams in the league.

Speaker 4 The play calling was awesome from the Lions. The second half, things started to get tight.

Speaker 4 There was some fluky stuff that happened, some weird shit going on. Deep pass to Brandon Ayuk, and it bounced off Kendall Vinder's helmet.
Yeah, that was bad. And then Ayuk,

Speaker 4 he said in the post-game that before the game, a ladybug landed on his shoe, and he knew he was going to have a lucky day. That was pretty fucking lucky.
That was ladybug luck.

Speaker 1 That was lucky.

Speaker 1 That was like the

Speaker 1 pass

Speaker 1 in the Seahawks Patriots Super Bowl, where it like bounced around

Speaker 1 on the defender. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Picked it up.

Speaker 4 And And then who was it? The tight end, right? On the Seahawks caught that one?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. We don't talk about that that much because of what happened next.
Right.

Speaker 1 But it was similar.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was curse.

Speaker 4 It was very similar. It was wild.
It looked like the Lions could run the ball at will against the Niners.

Speaker 1 It was like three yards every time. Not three yards rushing.
Three yards the offensive line would displace the defense. They were getting shoved every time.

Speaker 4 Shoved around. And we've said that the 49ers have a hard time playing from behind on defense, which I still think is kind of true.
But then some weird shit happened in the second half.

Speaker 4 They had a great forced fumble against Gibbs. So you can't take that away from the Niners' defense.
They forced that fumble.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, that wasn't a forced fumble.

Speaker 4 No, the one they reached in.

Speaker 1 Are you talking about the one where he went the wrong way on Gibbs? The handoff was like all disjointed.

Speaker 4 They reached in, they grabbed the ball.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it was a disjointed handoff.

Speaker 4 It was disjointed, but they still forced a fumble. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And then the fourth-down play goals, we should talk about.

Speaker 1 That's what everyone's going to want to talk about. By the way, the Detroit Free Press tweeted final, you know what happened.
Yep. That was as sad as it gets.

Speaker 1 So the fourth down play calls, there were multiple.

Speaker 1 We actually, people will focus on the two in the second half. I think you actually have to talk a little bit about the first one in the first half.

Speaker 1 At the end of the first half, with 10 seconds left, Dan Campbell kicks a field goal. And that was a chip-shot field goal.
It was like, they were on like the five-yard line.

Speaker 1 That was a little confusing, though, because Dan Campbell has has been the king of aggression, the king of balls to the wall.

Speaker 1 And that was like, okay, I'm a big believer in if you want to go aggressive, stay aggressive. If you want to be, you know, you know, punt it and play defense, do that.
That's fine.

Speaker 1 Just don't go wishy-washy. That's what killed Brandon Staley.
When you start to just second guess and

Speaker 1 do things differently in situations, like Dan Campbell, I thought he was going to be aggressive there. He explained it that it was just a little bit bit too far for what they wanted to do.

Speaker 1 Fine.

Speaker 1 The one in the third quarter, they're up 14. They're on the 30-yard line, 28-yard line, I believe.
I think it was 28-yard line.

Speaker 4 Because I think it would have been a 45-yard field goal.

Speaker 1 It would have been a 45-yard field goal,

Speaker 1 and they went for it, and that's the one that people are very upset about.

Speaker 4 I don't mind that one.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I don't mind that at all.

Speaker 4 Because the play call worked. They probably should have run the ball there.
That probably would have been easier to do. But Josh Reynolds, he just dropped the ball.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 4 It was a play that worked. And at the time, it felt like you get that first down and you step on their throats and they're done.
Right. Right?

Speaker 4 And, yeah, you can send out your kicker to try a 45-yard field goal. He's not the greatest kicker in the world.
They don't trust him. You're not guaranteed to make three points with that.
Right.

Speaker 4 I don't mind that play call whatsoever. It was a good play call.
It was a good call to go for it. He just dropped it.

Speaker 1 So the big, and we've had this debate a lot, like analytics versus, you know, I don't even think this is analytics.

Speaker 1 I think this is just Dan Campbell is very aggressive, and he's been aggressive all year. The whole reason the Lions are in this spot is because of his aggression.
That's how he coaches the team.

Speaker 1 That's how he's built the team. Like, they just go for your throat.
So I agree with you. I don't hate that call because

Speaker 1 I really think people are just forgetting the fact they do not like or trust their kicker. I think they brought Badgley back like a few weeks ago.
He's tried two kicks over 40 yards, 77%.

Speaker 1 I kind of like the fact that, and Dan Campbell knows in the back of his head, our defense isn't the best. We have to keep scoring seven, not three.

Speaker 1 I agree with you. And Josh Reynolds, the ball hit his hands.
You can touch it, you can catch it.

Speaker 4 People are mad at Dan Campbell because he's always the guy. He's the meme of the giant balls in the wheelbarrow.
This time, his balls were so big, his receivers couldn't catch him.

Speaker 4 And it was, I think, the right call. It was the right play call.
It was a bad execution from Josh Reynolds, who he had some bad drops.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he had that third and 10 drop that was really bad.

Speaker 4 The other one.

Speaker 1 So the other one is the other one. Yeah, they were

Speaker 1 not a similar situation because then by the time we got to the other one, it was 27-24

Speaker 1 Niners. So the first one happened.
It was 24-10

Speaker 1 Lions. So they were trying to basically be like, if we can go up 21, we'll put this game away.
People are going to say you go up three scores. I get it.

Speaker 1 You can convince me kind of either way on that one. I like it just because that's how Dan Campbell's coached and he's being consistent about it.
The other one was Niners are up three,

Speaker 1 and you're on fourth and I think it was fourth and three this time, and it was on the 30.

Speaker 1 That one I feel like maybe you should have kicked it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and I don't know what the numbers say if you get into the math. We're not math guys.
I don't know, but it feels like it's very important to tie the game right there.

Speaker 1 I just, yeah, because what happened is the Niners then went and scored a touchdown and it became a 10-point game with four minutes left, and it's like the game's over.

Speaker 4 Everything fell apart after that Ayuk touchdown. Everything.
They had that one bomb from Jack Fox. I think he punted the ball like 75 yards in the air.
Yep.

Speaker 4 And it bounced straight up at the one-yard line. Then the guy catches it and steps on the goal line, resulting in a touchback.

Speaker 4 It felt like all the small stuff was falling apart for the Lions at that point, and the game kind of got out of control for them.

Speaker 1 And here's,

Speaker 1 I don't know how these are,

Speaker 1 this

Speaker 1 numbers are crunched, but I'll just say them. Ben Solik had it.
Expected points lost for Detroit. Gibbs fumble, minus five and a half.
Ayuk reception off Vildor's face mask minus 3.3.

Speaker 1 Reynolds fourth down drop minus 3.2. Incomplete to St.
Brown on fourth and three minus 2.6. So the Gibbs fumble and the Ayuk reception cost them more than the fourth down failed fourth down.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Like that's, I know that the game can be, we do this thing because we

Speaker 1 watch and the easiest thing to do is criticize the coach, and I get it.

Speaker 1 People are going to be like, Dan Campbell's an idiot, because there's one other decision I want to get to that was very mind-numbing. But the biggest plays of this game were those two.

Speaker 1 It was the fumble and the Ayuk reception. Those were the biggest swings in win probability.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but this is going to seem like a big knock against being aggressive on fourth down. I don't even think the calls were that aggressive on fourth down.

Speaker 4 You're only calling them aggressive because they didn't work. If they had worked, it would be just another Dan Campbell fourth down play call.
Correct.

Speaker 1 And if Reynolds catches that, the Lions would probably win the game.

Speaker 4 Which he should have. As somebody who had bet on Josh Reynolds to catch more than one and a half balls,

Speaker 4 I know for a fact that Josh Reynolds should have caught at least two balls that game.

Speaker 1 So the fourth down decision bot we're looking at right now, it was a go for it because it added plus two win probability.

Speaker 1 Now, I honestly don't, like, people get mad about the numbers, and I understand it because you can't play football on a spreadsheet.

Speaker 4 There isn't such a thing as a game flow and understanding the situation and who you're playing against.

Speaker 1 But that's my whole point, that that's why I didn't hate him going for it on fourth and two the first time because

Speaker 1 he knows his team, and he's been this guy the entire season, and this is what got them there. And their defense is not great.

Speaker 1 Like, you could see that there was going to be some cracks forming in the second half.

Speaker 1 Go try to go up 21 and put the Niners away.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so you can criticize his decision-making for sure, but as far as having Dan Campbell as your head coach, like, do you think the Lions would be better off if they did not have Dan Campbell as their head coach?

Speaker 4 Right. Like, no chance of that.

Speaker 1 They're in the NFC championship game. They have not been in the NFC championship game in 30-plus years.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and credit to the Niners, too, because the Niners, they were able to kind of adjust and respond. Brock Purdy played like shit in the first half.
Second half, he turned into that

Speaker 4 ESPN article, What If Michael Vick Were White?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was Brock. He was running everywhere.
The last one I wanted to say about Dan Campbell, the one thing that did drive me nuts is that timeout that he used at the end of the game.

Speaker 4 And to run the ball on third down and then call a timeout, that's not hindsight either. Like, we're watching that.

Speaker 1 We were saying it is.

Speaker 4 We're like, what the fuck are you doing? Now you have to recover an onside kick. Right.
Which you can't do. And this is kind of an aside.
This has nothing to do with this game.

Speaker 4 They need to change the on-side kick.

Speaker 1 It's impossible.

Speaker 4 You used to be able to recover an on-side kick once every, what, 10, it was like 10, 11% of the time. Now nobody does.

Speaker 4 Now you got to hope for the biggest fuck-up ever to happen to have a chance at it. They need to change the rule.
Because I like the on-side kick,

Speaker 4 but I don't like how it's set up right now.

Speaker 1 No, it's impossible.

Speaker 4 They've made it impossible. Let them do the 10-yard run-up.
That was a sick play.

Speaker 1 Change it like the XFL and be like, you have to convert a fourth and 20. Yeah, that'd be fine, too.

Speaker 4 I'd like the team to have a chance, whoever's trailing and mounting a comeback. I'd like for them to be in the game at the end.
But now, once they burn that timeout,

Speaker 4 it was like the game's over. That was so bad.
Todd Bowles would have just packed his shit and gone home then.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, right. He would have just shook his hand and been like, I'm not even going to use these timeouts.

Speaker 1 I thought they were going to kick the field goal there. That's why they ran.
So they were going to rush out

Speaker 1 the field goal unit, kick the field goal, go down seven. That was baffling to me, why they would run and then have to use a timeout.
That one.

Speaker 4 You can run on fourth down.

Speaker 1 It did feel like Dan Campbell, as the game progressed, one thing you could criticize him for, and I'll buy this, is like, it did feel like, and I know this is a gambler myself, like he was kind of pushing a little bit where he's like, I'm going to keep pushing, I'm going to keep pushing.

Speaker 1 Someone said that Dan Campbell would hit on 18 in blackjack. Like it did feel like he was doing that, where he's like, just keep pushing, keep pushing.

Speaker 1 And that was where I was like, what's going on in his brain right now?

Speaker 4 Yeah, he doubles down every single time, every hand, and then he doubles his bet on the next hand. Yeah.
Again, I don't have a problem with going for it on the first fourth down.

Speaker 4 I don't have a problem going for it on the second, although I probably would have rather kicked that.

Speaker 4 I just don't feel strongly enough to say, like, you have to kick that. I don't mind it.
It was a weird play call.

Speaker 4 But then also at the end of the half, kicking a field goal, going along with that, the rest of your strategy for the future. The consistency doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Speaker 1 Like, go for it all three times, kick the field goal all three times. I kind of like the, like, they were all very similar situations where it's like you have two or three yards to gain.

Speaker 1 Um, and that's that was brutal for the Lions because it really did feel like everything fell apart. In those,

Speaker 1 I know that they'll say momentum, but like momentum had nothing to do with a ball thrown 50 yards bouncing off a guy's face mask into Brandon Ayuk's hand. Yeah, that was insane.
That wasn't momentum.

Speaker 1 That was just an insane, crazy play that happened.

Speaker 4 That was a ladybug effect.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and so yeah, the Niners, Brock Purdy was very good in the second half.

Speaker 1 Christian McCaffrey continues to be just insane. Scores no matter, I mean, his prices to score are insane, and he just keeps scoring.

Speaker 1 And, yeah,

Speaker 1 like that first half, I won't get out of my mind, though, with the Niners going into the Super Bowl where it's like

Speaker 1 they just got run on so hardcore. Yeah.
They were just so out of place in every play.

Speaker 1 And they did make good adjustments, and they did dial up some stuff in the second half that, like, you saw Jared was a little more rushed.

Speaker 4 But was it was crazy to watch the Niners like this is now two games in a row like Hank said like they barely won these both these games they get credit for winning them but it's also like that's not sustainable they also beat the Cousins curse until this year no no team that had lost to Kirk Cousins had ever been to a Super Bowl oh wow so yeah monkey off the back Kyle Shanahan apparently can come from behind in the fourth quarter so that's that's another thing that they've gotten off there uh but yeah brock purdy not good in the first half second half different guy if brock Brock Purdy was taken with like a top 10 pick, I'm not even saying like number one overall.

Speaker 4 If he was a first-round draft pick, I think we'd be like, Purdy is good, showing signs of living up to his draft status. Right.
I don't think that we'd shit on him all the time.

Speaker 4 There was a very funny moment, though, in the cave, when he dropped back, and Aaron Foster was watching with us. He does not like Brock Purdy.

Speaker 4 He watched him drop back, and he goes, He reminds me a lot of TJ Yates. And then as the ball leaves his hand,

Speaker 4 intercept it. Yeah.
Like right away.

Speaker 4 But I think that if if he was like, if he had that pedigree, if he was a first-round pick, we'd be like, Purdy's good, and I think he's probably on track to be a franchise quarterback.

Speaker 1 It is crazy, though. So, by the way, they were tied going into the fourth quarter, so Kyle Shanahan doesn't get an extra win on his

Speaker 4 1 and 31?

Speaker 1 Yeah, on the 1 and 31, he doesn't get an extra one. They were tied going in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 4 Well, he's one and 31 when not winning, not leading the game.

Speaker 1 No, it's one in 31 when down by five or more.

Speaker 1 Okay, got it. Yeah,

Speaker 1 it is crazy just how much

Speaker 1 everything swings in these games in terms of Dan Campbell. If they win this game, they go to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 He's even if they lose the Super Bowl, like the they're the last franchise that's played in every year has not been to the Super Bowl. Like, he's statue.
Even if they lose, he's probably a statue.

Speaker 1 And if they win that game, if the Niners lose that game, like, is Kirk Cousins the quarterback next year?

Speaker 4 He still might be.

Speaker 4 He still might be, but like, it's just nuts how much the swing is with how you feel about these these teams and like their future he still might be you you might be right yeah so let's talk about this matchup compared to the 2020 matchup because i think i don't know i've seen a lot of people saying like we're going to do this thing again the niners are a much different team they've got they don't have jimmy garoppolo they've got brock purdy who i think we can all agree is an upgrade right over jimmy g

Speaker 4 Would you rather right now have Jimmy G start in the middle?

Speaker 1 Well, Jimmy G is older and like hurt every year. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'd take Purdy. I think they're very similar.

Speaker 4 I I would take Purdy.

Speaker 4 They did not have Christian McCaffrey in 2020. So that's where I think

Speaker 1 you would put Jimmy on this team from 2020. I think it'd be very similar.
But yeah,

Speaker 4 it's a big difference. Yeah, but I'm just saying like this 49ers

Speaker 4 is better offensively.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, they have a ton more. Yeah, like Brandon Ayuk has come on.
Yeah. Christian McCaffrey makes all the worlds different.

Speaker 4 Debo's still Debo.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Debo's still Debo.

Speaker 1 It also, a fun stat.

Speaker 1 This, hold on, let me find the tweet. Here we go.
Brock Purdy would be the second seventh round draft pick in the last 25 years to be a Super Bowl starter at QB. The other guy, this guy, Tom Brady.

Speaker 4 It's crazy. Whoa.
There was another stat. I forget who.

Speaker 1 Wait, you guys didn't get it. Tom Brady was actually a sixth round draft pick.
And Ben Raffelle deleted this.

Speaker 4 Wait, read the tweet again?

Speaker 1 Brock Purdy would be the second seventh round draft pick in the last 25 years to be a Super Bowl starter at QB. The other guy, this guy, Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 It was Tom Brady as a little kid in a San Francisco 49ers jersey. He had this loaded for a very long time.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's wild.

Speaker 4 He was picked 199th overall, right?

Speaker 1 Yes. He deleted that.
Yeah. We're on your ass.

Speaker 4 I'm very excited for the Super Bowl. I really am.
I am too.

Speaker 1 It's a Super Bowl. It's a Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 How could you not be excited? Also, I mean,

Speaker 4 it really makes you go back and think, like, if the Niners had had Brock Purdy last year in the NFC Championship game,

Speaker 4 how much different? Would this be a rematch?

Speaker 1 Well, I actually have a funny tweet about that. This game really makes you wonder how much more the Eagles would have won by last year if Purdy never got hurt.
That was from Philly Mays.

Speaker 4 Oh, when was that?

Speaker 1 That was around 7.30, so it was probably halftime.

Speaker 1 Maybe at halftime. Halftime.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 4 it made you wonder, after wondering on it for a little bit, what did you come up with?

Speaker 1 Eagles still win that game for sure. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Sure. Oh, also,

Speaker 4 all the listeners out there, Max has agreed to try to get Taylor Swift on the podcast for Super Bowl week.

Speaker 1 I have sources that say that she's not going to be in Vegas when we're in Vegas. Well, she's going to be at her concert tour.

Speaker 1 We could,

Speaker 1 if you want,

Speaker 4 you could book it. We'll go.
I would go to Japan for that interview.

Speaker 1 You guys want to go to Japan?

Speaker 4 You know what? We usually just do in-person interviews.

Speaker 1 I'll do Zoom.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'll do Zoom too. I'll Zoom with Taylor.

Speaker 1 I'll do Zoom, or if she wants us in her box, we will go inside of her box.

Speaker 1 All right. All right.
Perfect. You have a connection with Jason.
He'll be in the box. Do we have a connection with Jason?

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 maybe.

Speaker 4 We're both podcasts.

Speaker 1 We patched roots for him. We would be friends.
For sure. Yeah, we would.

Speaker 4 We actually would be friends.

Speaker 1 We hung out with him once. No, if I hung out with him, we don't really.

Speaker 1 For sure. So I guess that is a connection.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 I think he'd probably listen to that if that was your pitch.

Speaker 1 Like, hey, Jason, you don't know me, but we would be like best friends. Look at me.
Look at you.

Speaker 4 He'd probably be like, yeah, this guy's probably right.

Speaker 1 I would just read the always sunny Chase Hutley to him.

Speaker 1 He's like, Jason, like, if I was

Speaker 1 a couple inches taller and maybe a little bit stronger, like, I could have, I could have been your life.

Speaker 1 Probably.

Speaker 4 What do you think the odds are that we get Taylor on the podcast?

Speaker 1 Zero point 000.

Speaker 4 Zero.

Speaker 1 Sorry, I burped. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, one percent.

Speaker 4 So it's not zero. So you're saying there's a chance?

Speaker 1 No, because like there could be like an

Speaker 1 art warfare and like everyone dies and it's just us and we're like you want to do our pod yeah no one's coming to your show right no no one's buying any tickets travis could put in a word he's been on i jake i don't think you understand how any of this works you think travis is gonna tell her to no but that's the point 001 yeah no i actually don't think that's the point 001 like i said the point 001 is like nuclear warfare everyone dies except us and we're like hey we have to send out help to the aliens want to record a message with us and we'll call it a podcast and then she she'd probably be like have the aliens on.

Speaker 1 I think.

Speaker 1 Like, I'd rather die.

Speaker 4 The 0.000001%

Speaker 4 is the exact same percentage of the likelihood that Travis has not heard any of the clips from us talking about Taylor.

Speaker 1 Yeah, true, true. I do like, Jake, that you think that, like, if we've had someone on, they're, like, our boys forever.
Yeah, for the show. You always say that's the goal.

Speaker 4 For end of the show, yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 I'd say it doesn't work for

Speaker 1 a lot of the guests.

Speaker 1 Maybe Travis. I don't think Travis, if we saw Travis on the street, I don't think he would.

Speaker 1 Didn't he make fun of Max? No, no, that was Billy. Yeah, he made fun of Billy.
Would he stop? I do not think so.

Speaker 4 I don't think he'd say. He's probably on his way to a commercial shoot.
My problem is with Travis Kelsey that every time now that I see him on TV, I think I'm in a commercial. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Like he could be on the sidelines and I'll cut to him. I'll be like, is this an old spice commercial where they're dressed up as the Chiefs? Yeah.
Like he's he's all over the place.

Speaker 1 He's really good.

Speaker 4 By the way, good for him making the money. Yeah.
But still as a viewer,

Speaker 4 he's now part of the commercials.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 this will be a big time, like, who's got the best tight end bowl? Because Kittle,

Speaker 1 we're partial to Kittle.

Speaker 1 Did you see George Kittle, his block on Aiden Hutchinson? That was football porn. Did you see it? Yeah, I did.

Speaker 4 You can tell he's laughing, too.

Speaker 1 He fucking bodied him. And I know Kelsey's a better, like, has the accolades and is a better catcher, maybe.

Speaker 1 Kittle has to block a lot, so he doesn't get as many chances. There's a lot of weapons that you got to feed.
Kittle can block.

Speaker 1 I mean, he can play offensive line. He's fucking nasty.
Yeah, I love him so much.

Speaker 4 I can't wait for the mic dupp to come out from this. Like the NFL films recap.
Watch inside the NFL. I guarantee he was laughing after that block.

Speaker 1 And we'll get Kittle on the show Super Bowl week. So I'm excited for him to get back to the Super Bowl.
People were playing that clip where he was sitting there being like, I'll be back here.

Speaker 1 I'll be back here. So I'm happy he's back there.

Speaker 1 He's got to win this one, but I'm happy he's back there. All right, anything else? Lions fans, I feel really bad.
Detroit Donahue, he did reach out to me. He said

Speaker 1 he's pretty sad, pretty down, but there's a lot of things to be looking forward to with this young Lions team. I told him that in perpetuity, if the Lions go to the Super Bowl, they can't.

Speaker 1 The one caveat is they can't beat the Commanders or the Bears on the road to the Super Bowl. Yeah.
Because I don't want to buy tickets for that.

Speaker 1 But if they go to the Super Bowl without that happening, I will buy them two tickets to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 But imagine a Commanders-Lions NFC Championship game, and the stakes are either I get to go to a a Super Bowl

Speaker 4 or the Lions go and I have to buy them.

Speaker 1 Okay, so maybe we'll keep it in.

Speaker 4 Yeah, how much more exciting would that be?

Speaker 1 You're right, you're right.

Speaker 4 Got to chase that high.

Speaker 1 That was tough, though, for the Lions.

Speaker 4 I feel bad. I do think that the Lions, at least from what I've seen in the post-game, they have a pretty good attitude about it, which they're not saying it sucks, but look at all we accomplished.

Speaker 4 Like, Panay Sewell was like, yeah, this doesn't mean shit that we lost here. Yeah.
Like, we're not, this isn't what we set out to. Now we're like every other team that lost this postseason.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Dan Campbell had some awesome quotes. He's like,

Speaker 1 it's going to be twice as hard next year, but that's why we do it. Like, this is what sports are.

Speaker 4 They crush you. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's what you feel.

Speaker 4 Now I'm looking forward to the discourse of what do you do with Jared Goff?

Speaker 4 How much do you pay Jared Goff? I am not looking forward to that.

Speaker 4 You're going to have to pay him. You're going to have to pay Jared, and he deserves every penny.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, Ben Johnson's going to be your coach.

Speaker 4 Ben Johnson. So watching this game as a Commanders fan,

Speaker 4 it was great for me because Ben Johnson is fucking awesome. I love his play calling.
The offense is just next level. They're a step ahead.

Speaker 4 And then on the Niners' side of the ball, Adam Peters, our new GM, helped put that team together.

Speaker 4 So I'm feeling if we can just merge these two teams together with play calling and talent, then that's what I want. I was going to say I want to get.

Speaker 1 The talent part is definitely important because Ben Johnson is incredible, but he will not have the Detroit Lions offensive line.

Speaker 4 He won't have that.

Speaker 4 And Jared had a good quote where he said, like, what I love about Ben Johnson is that he does what we do best and he optimizes that. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And then as a Commanders fan, I'm like, well, we don't really do anything that good.

Speaker 1 I'm not sure.

Speaker 4 He's just going to get in training camp and be like, oh, shit. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Just punt.

Speaker 4 Tress away.

Speaker 1 How are all spinning?

Speaker 4 All trash away all the time. We have a running back that bounces back extremely quickly from being shot.
So maybe that's

Speaker 4 a shoot him again and then punt the ball.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I like that.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 we'll do a little Super Bowl talk. Let's take another break quick for some ads, and then we'll also do who's back of the week.

Speaker 3 Whether I'm hosting game day at my place or taking my talents to the tailgate, Boar's Head is my go-to for a spread that's as exciting as the game itself. Their platters are a hit every time.

Speaker 3 They've got everything you need to keep your guests coming back for more. And if you want to take it up a notch, grab a few dips.

Speaker 3 My personal favorite, the blazing buffalo chicken, hummus, or even one of their charcuterie collections for game-changing flavor.

Speaker 3 Boarshead helps me elevate my entertaining every time, whether it's for a tailgate or a home gating celebration.

Speaker 3 To upgrade your spread, visit your local Boarshead deli for platter options or build your own to make it perfect for your crowd. Boarshead, committed to craft since 1905.

Speaker 3 Man, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 8 When you're hungry out there, you start acting like a rookie quarterback in his first game, making bad decisions, messing up the basics, being all out of sorts. That's where Snickers comes in, man.

Speaker 8 That thing is packed. Roasted peanuts, nugget, caramel, milk chocolate.
It's like the MVP of candy bars.

Speaker 8 And when you bite into it, boom, it sorts you out, gets your head back in the game of life, satisfying your hunger. Remember this.
Snickers handles your hunger so you can handle everything else.

Speaker 8 Snickers satisfies, man. That's a winning play.

Speaker 1 Okay, so Super Bowl, real quick. Chiefs open as two and a half point underdogs.
It's now a one-point underdog. So it has moved significantly.
Early money on the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 I've already bet the Chiefs plus 114 before it moved. I said I was going to do it.
I could get burned, but I'm sick of Patrick Mahomes burning me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And this is the rare bet where it's like if the Chiefs lose and I lose this money,

Speaker 1 I'll be so happy for Kittle, and he'll probably maybe give me the money.

Speaker 4 I would be very happy for Kittle, for Shanahan, for Trenton Williams. to win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Debo. Debo.

Speaker 4 Chase Young played so bad today. I don't know if you saw saw any of those clips.
Yeah, no, Young.

Speaker 4 But yeah, I would be very happy to see those guys win a Super Bowl. I think I might go with the Niners.
I haven't decided yet. I did put a future on Christian McCaffrey winning the Super Bowl MVP.

Speaker 4 I would assume that would mean that the Niners would win that game. They would have to win that.
The only thing that I know for sure is I'm going to bet no Doinks again.

Speaker 4 I'm going to chase the no-doinks. You have to.
I have to get that money back. Yeah, you have to.

Speaker 1 I'm going to do the Unstoppable Force versus the Immovable Object Game of the Year versus Patrick Mahomes. Or Game of the Year on Patrick Mahomes.
Which one is more powerful? Yeah. My jinxing ability.

Speaker 1 You could be. My terrible,

Speaker 1 like my awful, awful gambling record. If one of the worst gamblers of all time.

Speaker 4 If you Game of the Year and the Chiefs lose, it is going to be on site for you in Kansas City.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that will be fair. Chiefs fans can absolutely say I'm not allowed in Kansas City.
Although I am believing in your guy.

Speaker 4 Where is Chiefsaholic going to watch the game?

Speaker 1 Jail. Jail?

Speaker 4 Still in jail?

Speaker 1 Probably jail.

Speaker 4 Free Chiefs Aholic.

Speaker 1 Still jail. I think it was MBS tweeted a tribute today.
Did he really? Nice. Let me double check.
That's probably the difference in the game. I've also taken the Chiefs.
Okay.

Speaker 4 So Max. Max is a loser.

Speaker 1 Max is a loser. Yeah, then I'm a loser.
This Niners thing is

Speaker 1 UConn written all over it. You tweeted.
Oh, you're just going to bet against them every single way? Although they didn't cover against the Packers.

Speaker 1 No, I actually haven't bet on the Niners or against them because I thought that they were going to kill.

Speaker 1 Have you thought about how pathetic it is what you're doing? Yeah. Okay.
Yeah. I just wanted to make sure because

Speaker 1 if you had won the Super Bowl last year, I would understand everything you're doing, but you lost

Speaker 1 the Niners fans that are just annoying.

Speaker 4 Let's talk about this because

Speaker 4 if you have the 49ers that are definitely better, that motherfucking graphic. Yeah.
Get off your screen. It's the Washington Coach's graphic.
I hate it.

Speaker 4 If you take this year's Niners and you just put Brock Purdy back in that game from last year, they probably beat the Eagles, right?

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 4 How many points did the Eagles lose by to the Chiefs last year in the Super Bowl? Three. Three points.
You think Brock Purdy is worth three points?

Speaker 1 Easily. So I figured.
Versus a non-quarterback? But we're going to find out. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I guess we'll find out. Yeah.
We'll find out. We'll find out exactly how many points Brock Purdy is worth.

Speaker 1 I'm just, again, I just, if you had won the Super Bowl, I would totally understand what you were doing, but you didn't. But

Speaker 1 it's not justifying it to myself, it's the Niners fans. You just want to make sure that the sanctity of the LC championship banner that you rose,

Speaker 1 you put up. I just

Speaker 1 don't want to hear it from Niners fans. Got it anymore.
Got it. Well, they kind of already proved their point.
Well, if they get smoked by the Chiefs, then they don't.

Speaker 1 Well, no, because they would have just gotten smoked by the Chiefs last year. But the Eagles did not get smoked by the Chiefs.
Okay.

Speaker 1 But they would have still been to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 But no. Their point has already been.

Speaker 1 Your math doesn't work out. No, they would have beaten the Eagles.
They were good enough to win the NFC last year. They won the NFC this year.
Who knows what happens in a Super Bowl? But what show.

Speaker 4 why?

Speaker 1 Because they had Brock Purdy healthy this year. They won the NFC.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 that wasn't against the Niger got hurt. They didn't win the NFC.
But that wasn't against the Eagles. I'm just saying they've missed

Speaker 1 a mission accomplished. But both teams will play the Chiefs.
So

Speaker 1 if the Niners get blown out by the Chiefs. So you are just trying to keep the sanctity of an NFC champion?

Speaker 1 No, I just don't want Niners fans talking about how they would have won that NFC championship.

Speaker 4 You don't want Niners fans

Speaker 4 getting so up and down

Speaker 4 that they tell you that they would have gone to the Super Bowl and lost the Chiefs. Correct.

Speaker 1 But they can because they're upholding the sanctity.

Speaker 4 They won the NFC championship. He's upholding the sanctity of his second place.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. It's pathetic.
Only for Niners fans. Got it.
It's pathetic. Not for my own enjoyment.

Speaker 4 I will say this, though. Max is the best at being second place, so I understand that.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't want to be second place. I don't want to be second place.

Speaker 4 How awesome would it have been, though, if it was the Lions and the Chiefs and you got Eminem against Taylor Swift?

Speaker 1 That Eminem picture was so cool. Double birds.
Double birds to all the Niners.

Speaker 4 It would have been great if he would have, what if they came like in their pregame hype-up video, it was Eminem doing the eight-mile battle rap, but he was just rapping about Taylor Swift the entire time.

Speaker 1 It was actually Vivek doing it.

Speaker 4 That would have been insane.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 9 Hey, this is Rhea from Chicks in the Office, and this season, we're heading home for the holidays with Abercrombie and Fitch. We all know our calendars are about to get chaotic.

Speaker 9 For non-stop plans, Abercrombie has the pieces to curate your perfect seasonal wardrobe, sweaters and denim for casual plans, party dresses for nights out, and comfy matching sets for everything in between.

Speaker 9 Keep the chaos cute this season in Abercrombie. Shop their new holiday outfits in the app online or in stores.

Speaker 1 Henry.

Speaker 1 Yes. Is Bill Belichick going to be unemployed?

Speaker 6 No, I think he'll have a job with Fox.

Speaker 1 Fox.

Speaker 6 I heard a rumor today that

Speaker 6 Fox is going to throw the bag at Belichick Brady Gronk.

Speaker 1 That would be awesome. If Belichick was sideline reporter for Brady's broadcast.

Speaker 1 I did Edelman involved in this four-man booth.

Speaker 1 Four-man booth.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 the story broke right after we had to record early on Thursday because we were doing rough and rowdy.

Speaker 1 Raheem Morris got hired by the Falcons. That looked like the Bill Belichick destination.

Speaker 1 It looks like it's going to be Ben Johnson to the Commanders, and I believe is Mike McDonald going to get the job in Seattle?

Speaker 4 I don't want to jinx anything. I would like Ben Johnson for the commanders is what I'll say.
And then, yeah, they're saying that probably McDonald either that or maybe Dan Quinn still. I don't know.

Speaker 1 Mike McDonald did a good enough job today that he should still get the job. Not that you should...
judge it on one game, but if you were thinking about hiring Todd Munkin, don't. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's crazy, though, that Bill Belichick is going to be unemployed.

Speaker 6 Yeah, insane. I guess it's just because of his age.
I think it's probably. I don't want to do this all again in four or five years.

Speaker 1 Control is probably my guess, is that no team wants to give up control for the, it's a control-age combo where it's like, we would like Bill Belichick to coach.

Speaker 1 We don't know if we want to give Bill Belichick the entire franchise if he's not going to coach for the next 10 years.

Speaker 4 It's like an older person just wrecks the Range Rover. Right.
And then they're like, hey, I'd really like to get the Grand Wagoneer instead. And you're like, wait a second.

Speaker 4 What happened to your last car? We're going to take your license away.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Maybe you go take the test again. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I would take Bill Belichick as a defensive coordinator right now. No questions asked.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It is crazy, though.

Speaker 1 It's like a very big passing of the torch if Pete Carroll and Bill Belichick can't get jobs. Yeah.
Is Mike Rabel just going to sit out a year?

Speaker 4 He might be a defensive coordinator somewhere. I don't know.

Speaker 1 I'd like Mike Rabel to sit out a year and wait, and then he can coach Caleb Williams in a year. That'd be nice.

Speaker 4 I love that. It would be weird, though, especially because Belichick did take the interview, and then for him to take an interview

Speaker 4 and not get a job. Who else? It was the Falcons and who?

Speaker 6 No, two interviews with the Falcons.

Speaker 4 Yeah, two interviews with the Falcons. It'd be weird if he did those interviews with a team, and then they passed him up.

Speaker 1 Which is what happened.

Speaker 4 I feel like, I don't know, maybe he didn't want it.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 6 He probably said, this is what I need, and they're like, yeah, the pickats that

Speaker 1 I'm going to do all that. Right.

Speaker 4 Or maybe he asked asked for something to be changed in their front office, and they said no. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to do that.

Speaker 4 There's another theory that was posted in our group chat. I don't know if you guys remember this.

Speaker 4 But the notion was that the Eagles would sign Kellen Moore to be their offensive coordinator and they would get Vic Fangio as their defensive coordinator.

Speaker 4 Those two things have happened since we've gotten this text message. Yep.
And then, surprise, surprise, Belichick would swoop in and coach the Eagles.

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 1 So you think that would be Hank's nightmare, Max's wet dream.

Speaker 4 He's so happy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 For the sake of the show, I hope that.

Speaker 1 Vic Vanjo is a great hire, by the way. He is.
Yeah, Vic Vanjio is great.

Speaker 1 I'm optimistic about Kellen Moore, but

Speaker 1 Vic Vanjo is a slam dunk.

Speaker 4 Yeah, with Kellen Moore,

Speaker 4 he was pretty good for a long time, and then he went to the Chargers, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm going to chalk that up to the Chargers.

Speaker 4 It's the Chargers. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 It's Chargers.

Speaker 4 He came down with

Speaker 4 a minor case of Chargers.

Speaker 4 But you can bounce back from that.

Speaker 1 You don't have full-blown full-blown falcons you have like a small case of the chargers right and he is he's an experienced play caller which is what we needed and that's that's what we got okay and then any other and dave canalis which we actually caught on thursday's show with Peter Schraeger he gave us the Dave Canalis shout out Schraeger he five years in a row got the Super Bowl crazy people are like oh well though they were the odds on favorite fuck that it's hard to pick the Super Bowl yeah the two teams it's hard to pick the Super Bowl if you do it if everyone could do it they would and he had Chiefs over Niners, right?

Speaker 4 He had Chiefs over Niners. He has the Chiefs winning.

Speaker 1 Not even the logo could pick the Super Bowl correct this year.

Speaker 4 No,

Speaker 4 it's going to be an all-red game. Oh, you want.

Speaker 4 You want a color stat from

Speaker 1 Jay Kuda, who I've shouted him out a bunch, but everyone should be following him at JCUDA.

Speaker 1 Every time the 49ers have won the NFC Championship game versus a team that has a shade of blue in their logo, they've gone on to win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 And anytime they've beaten a non-blue team in the NFC Championship game, they've gone on to lose the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 Interesting.

Speaker 1 So think about that.

Speaker 1 Cowboys, Bears, Bears, Rams, Cowboys, all those years they won the Super Bowl. And then Falcons in 2013 and Packers in 2020, they lost those Super Bowls.

Speaker 1 Just some things to think about when you're handicapping the game. What?

Speaker 6 What did you say in 2020? Packers.

Speaker 1 Falcons and Packers. Packers.
Yeah, Falcons and Packers.

Speaker 4 Just something to think about.

Speaker 1 Tiger, by the way, he has 34-28 Chiefs. Trent McDuffie picked six in the fourth quarter.
That's not going to to be...

Speaker 1 I would be shocked if it's that high scoring.

Speaker 1 I think the Chiefs' defense is good enough to keep... I mean, that's just how they play.
They strangle you to death.

Speaker 1 I would be shocked if it was that high.

Speaker 4 What's the over-under?

Speaker 1 47.5. That'd be slamming.
62. Yeah.

Speaker 4 That'd be a fun game. I do like the over, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That'd be a fun game.
Okay, should we do who's back of the week? Who's back of the week? Hank?

Speaker 1 Who's back of the week is college basketball. Yes.

Speaker 6 Football is winding down. Time to get another sports.
Ed Cooley came back to Providence. Yes.

Speaker 6 Which is probably, you know, the best things in sports are rivalry games, big games, and then also when a fan base just hates someone that's coming back to their home court.

Speaker 6 And the Providence fans were as crazy as I've ever seen any college hoops fan base for anything. It was awesome.

Speaker 1 It was awesome. The signs, that sign that just said Cooley as a cheats on his wife, and then nothing for O-O-L-E-Y.
Yeah. Or nothing for the second O.
They were just screaming at him.

Speaker 6 Cooley brought his wife and kids to the game, and the fans were chanting, like, where's your mistress? Oh,

Speaker 6 that's true. That was

Speaker 6 a lot. It was a wild move to bring your wife and kids.

Speaker 4 I bet you probably insisted on it. Yeah.
Because if it was up to him, he'd be like, no, please stay at home.

Speaker 1 It was a great atmosphere, though. And they were like,

Speaker 1 I think at the dunk, they just serve beer to everyone, which I'm still getting used to that, like in college sports, because for the longest time you couldn't.

Speaker 1 That crowd was raucous. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Raucous. That mascot for Providence is a whole lot scarier when it's cheering against you.
Yeah. When it's on your side, you're like, okay, at least we got this creep going for us.

Speaker 4 When it's against it, that's menacing as fuck. Yeah.

Speaker 6 And then Butler had one of the all-time comebacks.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was incredible.

Speaker 4 That was a great game. And Hinkle.
Two overtimes.

Speaker 1 I will say, since we're talking college basketball, did you have something to say? No, I'm just happy we're talking about like 11 and 7 college basketball games in fucking January.

Speaker 1 Well, that was the biggest storyline.

Speaker 4 It's huge. It was an incredible

Speaker 4 game.

Speaker 1 He was back in the week.

Speaker 1 Sorry talking about Butler. Butler.
That's a great comeback. Yeah, it was a great comeback.
Double over. Double overtime.
Big time program. Big-time program, Jake.
That's facts.

Speaker 1 Won two championships in the last seven years. It's hard to do.
You'll be happy to learn this, Hank,

Speaker 1 because you love to just relish in my sadness. I am all in on the Badgers.
They're good. They're going to be top 10 probably on Monday.
They're really good. And I'm believing.

Speaker 1 I'm believing in a miracle march run.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know. I can see even in your eyes right now, you're like, yes, the pain and the suffering.

Speaker 4 He's just thinking about downloads.

Speaker 1 It's going to be, yeah. But

Speaker 1 I'm usually pretty honest about where my heart, like in terms of like, do I fully believe, because I can usually emotionally keep myself, you know, safe.

Speaker 1 I'm going to be unsafe in March if they keep playing the way they're playing. I'm going to be emotionally unsafe.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I feel like that sounds like a Sweet 16.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but what if they play Arizona?

Speaker 1 What do you mean? What if they play Arizona? I mean, Arizona beat the fuck out of them. Oh, I'm sorry, Max.

Speaker 1 What's the last two times that Wisconsin played Arizona in the fucking tournament, you idiot? Learn college basketball. We whooped them twice in the Elite Eight to go to the Final Four.

Speaker 1 Two completely different teams? Okay, but that's every Arizona fan heard you say that, and like, Max is the dumbest person ever. He doesn't know ball.
Every Arizona fan is scared of Wisconsin.

Speaker 1 That's a fact.

Speaker 1 I mean, I just, that's the only Wisconsin game I've watched this year. I bet on Wisconsin.
Okay, but

Speaker 1 there's two different teams. But you picked a one team that was dumb to pick.
But those are two teams. I'm telling you, every fucking game is a game.
There's no single player that is on those teams.

Speaker 1 I'll do a poll tomorrow. Arizona fans are like, no, I do not want to play Wisconsin.
They're not even the same coaches. It doesn't matter.
Greg Gard was an assistant coach. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It doesn't matter. That was a dumb thing to pick.

Speaker 1 All I'm saying is that. But you sounded dumb.
You sound like you didn't know. No, no.
No, you sound dumb. No, no, no, no.
You sound dumb. No, we'll do a poll tomorrow.
Who sounded dumb there?

Speaker 1 Oh, a poll for Wisconsin fans. No, no, it's Arizona fans.
What if Wisconsin? plays? Yeah, I actually, yeah, I would love that. All right.
Arizona fans, although Arizona is coming off a bad week.

Speaker 1 So off. Arizona is coming off a bad week.

Speaker 4 I think you should do two separate polls. One is Arizona fans, how would you feel about this? And the other, Wisconsin fans, how would you feel about this?

Speaker 1 You're so off. I can't wait.

Speaker 4 I can't wait. I think neither team wants to play each other.

Speaker 1 I mean, they're a better team right now, but again,

Speaker 1 they were a better team when Wisconsin played them in 2014 and 15.

Speaker 4 I think both fan bases are scared. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They have more NBA players and all that shit. I'm not scared.
I'm scared to get my heart broken again because that's going to happen. All right, PFT, your who's back.

Speaker 4 My who's back was going to be Belichick

Speaker 4 because it turns out he's behind the scenes also still talking about other franchises.

Speaker 4 So I think this was on an athletic podcast. He said that

Speaker 4 apparently Bill's been telling coaches that are thinking about going to the Giants, like, don't go there. I don't like the way the organization is run now.

Speaker 4 So he's influencing other coaches behind the scenes, pulling the strings. But since we already talked about Bill, I'll just say my who's back is LeBron.
Yeah. LeBron, big win, big win the other day.

Speaker 4 Anthony Davis, every time he falls to the ground, I think that he's dead. Yep.

Speaker 4 I think that we just witnessed a death on the court in basketball, and then he just comes back like two minutes later, he's fine.

Speaker 1 That was, we're going to do our big NBA preview as soon as football ends. I watched that game.
It was an awesome, awesome regular season game. Like, it had everything.
LeBron, big moments.

Speaker 1 Steph, that crossover he had on AD to take it into overtime, like hitting big shots. Clay hit a big shot.

Speaker 4 That was fun. He hit shots from the corner, and I have no idea how that shot doesn't get blocked.
Yeah. And then it doesn't touch the rim.
It just goes straight in. It's crazy.

Speaker 1 That was a very, very fun game.

Speaker 6 Draymond Green's killing people again. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Draymond was laughing when Anthony Davis went down. That was funny.

Speaker 1 All right, so that's actually similar to my who's back because I watched that game and it was so incredible.

Speaker 1 My other who's back is load management because we were robbed of Joel Embiid playing in Denver against Jokic.

Speaker 4 To be the man, you got to beat the man, right?

Speaker 1 15 minutes before the game, he's like, no, I don't want to play. I want to duck nuggets again.

Speaker 4 Well, he's probably like, Philly fans ran me out of town last year in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Beatball Paul.
He's ducking them, though. Beatball Paul.
I played Joel. Beatball Paul, but do you agree that Embiid ducking Jokic? No, I don't give a fuck.
Like, you can't be like, oh.

Speaker 1 Regular season doesn't matter. Regular season doesn't matter.
Regular season doesn't matter. And then he doesn't play a regular season game and go, oh, what the heck? Regular season matters.

Speaker 1 Why is he playing games regular season?

Speaker 4 It would be nice if if he was rivalry week.

Speaker 1 No, but that's just like

Speaker 1 everyone just likes to pick a narrative for when they want that narrative. Well, it was rivalry week.
I think that he beat the fuck out of Joey. Just describe narratives.

Speaker 4 I think that the kids that paid good money to go see that game and were deprived of having Joel Embiid may be their favorite player playing. I think that's disgusting.

Speaker 1 I want Embiid to be healthy in the playoffs. What everybody says.
Okay, but he did duck them.

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 1 I don't care.

Speaker 1 I don't care. You tweeted a lot about it for someone who doesn't care.
Well, that's because you just kept sending things to me. No, I mean, he ducked him.
Don't care. Oh, he played him last week?

Speaker 1 Guess the last time that Embiid has played in Denver? Oh, I don't know. 2019.
Oh, wow. He likes to play Jokic at home, and then

Speaker 1 weirdly when they get to Denver, his knee hurts and he doesn't want to play.

Speaker 6 Ryan Howard has played more games in Denver

Speaker 6 since like 20, since forever. He retired in 2015.

Speaker 1 That's that rock, Hank. Great job.
You really nailed that one out of the park. Also worth mentioning, MB did not have the highest individual point total in the NBA this week.
Oh, yeah, Luca.

Speaker 1 Scored 73. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So there are too many high scores. We'll talk to Rosillo about this, but there, and I know J.J.
Reddick has gone on about it, how the offense is really just the offense is so great.

Speaker 1 You can't tell me that the rule changes that they've made have not forced this to just be an insane, like every game is in the 240s total-wise. Guys are scoring 70.
You can't hold or like grab anyone.

Speaker 1 You can't touch them.

Speaker 1 It's stupid. I think they've gone too far.

Speaker 4 You should be able to touch people.

Speaker 1 You should be able to touch people. You think 100 is going to be broken? Probably with these rules.

Speaker 4 I don't think so.

Speaker 1 These rules are insane, though.

Speaker 1 You literally can't

Speaker 1 touch a guy around the perimeter.

Speaker 4 But there's, Jake, it's such a big difference between 73 points and 100 points.

Speaker 1 If someone really wanted to try to do it and the whole team was like, let's do this, I actually think it could happen.

Speaker 4 If If the Warriors did the ring theory that you saw in Reddit, which is just every other player floor ring around Steph Curry and they let him dribble the ball up, forming a screen, Steph Curry could probably do it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but Luca, yeah, I mean, he's

Speaker 1 insane too. I think

Speaker 4 Jordan Poole could do it. He might have to shoot the ball 600 times.

Speaker 1 Poole could do it if he had like 10 overtimes. Yeah.
Played every single minute.

Speaker 1 Okay, Jake, finish us off. My back of the week.
My who's back is talking tennis. Oh, yeah.
We had the Australian elephant.

Speaker 1 Sinner and Sabalenka are your champions. Big upset over Djokovic, which Big Cat you said doesn't count because of the time.
And it also wasn't that big of an upset. It was like plus 180.

Speaker 1 For him losing. Yeah, it's not that big of an upset.

Speaker 4 Wasn't Joker he was like minus money at the time?

Speaker 1 And the people were yelling at him.

Speaker 1 They were yelling at him vaccine things. It was a hostile place.
Well, he's banned from the tournament a few years ago. Yeah,

Speaker 1 the poor did, right? Yeah, so he didn't have practice on that court. Yeah.
It was hard. So

Speaker 1 Sabalenka, she got her revenge on Coco Goff. Remember that big semifinal or championship match at U.S.
Open? Yeah. Jimmy Butler, the Biebers were in Coco's box when she won it.

Speaker 1 And she got her revenge in Australia this week. Yeah.
So, first major in the books.

Speaker 4 Who's the guy, sinner? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Sinner. I like that.
Italian, yeah.

Speaker 4 I like that. Yeah, he is.
Of course he is. What's his deal?

Speaker 1 He's just one of the up-and-comers.

Speaker 4 Just an Italian center.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just trying to break up the big three.

Speaker 1 You guys want that stat that I alluded to earlier? Yeah. I'm going to do a blind QB poll right now.
Okay. All right.
So

Speaker 1 the good news is these teams is against the exact same defense in the exact same situations.

Speaker 1 QB1, 26 for 39, 258 yards, three touchdowns, zero turnovers, 24 points scored, and his defense got two stops the entire game. QB two,

Speaker 1 20 for 37, 326 yards, one TD, two turnovers, 10 points scored, and his defense got seven stops.

Speaker 4 Okay, I'm going to take QB1.

Speaker 1 That would be Josh Allen versus Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 1 But Josh Allen gets a lot of the blame. Yeah.
I saved that for the end of the show, so people can't get upset at me.

Speaker 4 Well, Lamar's going to deal with his fair share.

Speaker 1 He is, but there was a lot of like, Lamar's better than Josh.

Speaker 1 Whatever. I don't want to do the whole thing, but I think Josh Allen's one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL.

Speaker 4 He just keeps running into Patrick Mahomes. It just sucks that he's in the AFC.
Yeah, it's like what.

Speaker 1 I'm actually glad. If he was in the NFC, he probably would have been to at least two Super Bowls.

Speaker 4 They should, yeah, the AFC needs all the good quarterbacks, please. Yeah.
All right.

Speaker 1 So that was the stat. It was the end of the show, so people can't get mad.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Anything else? Anything else? That was fun. That was a fun championship Sunday.

Speaker 4 We got to do Narrative Wednesday.

Speaker 1 Narrative Wednesday, also bonk list this week. Yeah, sure.
I want to add myself.

Speaker 1 I want to add myself to the bonk list real quick if you can do a late submission

Speaker 1 because I was one of the

Speaker 1 32,000, or no, sorry, 29,000 bookmarks

Speaker 1 on the Sidney Sweeney Hot Ones clip.

Speaker 1 29,000 bookmarks on that tweet.

Speaker 1 And everyone's like, look at all the bookmarks. I was like, fuck it, I'm going to bookmark it.

Speaker 6 Do you ever actually go and look at your bookmarks?

Speaker 1 Every now and then, I'll look at a couple.

Speaker 1 What do I have? Let's do a quick bookmark.

Speaker 4 Sometimes I'll have tweets that get like a shitload of bookmarks. I have no idea why.

Speaker 1 Oh, this one sucks. I bookmarked someone sick.
Look at bookmarks. I bookmarked someone at 2.14

Speaker 1 p.m. today, which must have been like

Speaker 1 five minutes into the AFC championship game. Someone said, imagine fading Mahomes.
I was hoping that I was going to come back to that bookmark. That didn't work.

Speaker 1 What else you got? Oh, I have some books, some personal vendetta bookmarks that I can't talk about, but I have them.

Speaker 1 What do you guys have? I bookmarked the guy who got stuck in the vase.

Speaker 1 That was awesome.

Speaker 4 I don't know how I get there.

Speaker 1 I have some fun nuggets on bookmarks.

Speaker 1 I have so many. Oh, I bookmarked this guy.
He's got me real good. He said, great coffee, man.
Are you excited to get dominated for another 15 years?

Speaker 1 So I was like, I almost retweeted it because it was still blue coffee, but then it was on top of a Jordan Love jersey. So I'm going to hopefully come back to that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you guys have anything bookmarked that? I don't know how to find them. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I have some good bookmarks. Oh, bookmarks.
Here we go. Bookmarks.
I got none.

Speaker 1 I got some stuff that I was planning on reading and just never read.

Speaker 4 I got none.

Speaker 1 I have some bear stat bookmarks

Speaker 1 that I tried to use to my benefit. Also, Hank, you might have been right that I was flip-flopping.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 1 You might have been right, okay?

Speaker 1 You might have been right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just pretty much they're all grudge bookmarks. And then Sidney Sweeney.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. All right, ready?

Speaker 6 40.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 4 PK, you didn't say the number. I'm going to do 40.
Nice.

Speaker 1 18.

Speaker 1 20. Three.

Speaker 1 Three. Ah, Hank.
Sorry. You have to go last.
Got it.

Speaker 4 I'll go 15. Okay, good pick.

Speaker 1 Three.

Speaker 1 99 pug. Shane,

Speaker 1 21.

Speaker 1 Is everyone picked? Yep. All right, Hank.
17.

Speaker 1 This is going to really suck if it's 17.

Speaker 1 47. I got nervous there for a second.
47.

Speaker 4 Love you guys.

Speaker 4 to say and say anyway.

Speaker 4 Today's a my day to find you. Shine

Speaker 4 up

Speaker 4 here, I'm dreaming, shine

Speaker 4 of you love dreams. Take

Speaker 4 me,

Speaker 4 take

Speaker 4 me,

Speaker 4 take on me.

Speaker 4 Needless to say

Speaker 4 what's in

Speaker 4 spur me somewhat of a way.

Speaker 4 Slowly learning that life is okay.

Speaker 4 Say of me

Speaker 4 I so better to be safe than something.

Speaker 4 Say you're me

Speaker 4 I so better to be safe than something.

Speaker 4 Drink on me.

Speaker 4 Drink on me.

Speaker 4 Things that we say,

Speaker 4 no.

Speaker 4 Justify my memories away.

Speaker 4 You're all things I'll come to remember. You a shy oil.

Speaker 4 You all become here when you light.

Speaker 4 Be a shine on.

Speaker 4 You all become here when you like, when you like, when you like,

Speaker 4 take

Speaker 4 on

Speaker 4 me.

Speaker 4 Drink on me.

Speaker 4 Take on me.

Speaker 4 Take

Speaker 4 take on me.