Peter Schrager In Studio, Championship Sunday Preview + Fyre Fest Of The Week

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You probably are, if you're watching on YouTube, you're seeing this and it's like, hey, where are these guys? Well, we are in New York City. We're in one of the pod rooms Hank is producing.

We're going to talk Championship Sunday. A little preview for the two big games on Sunday to see who's going to the big game.
You like that? Super Bowl. Big game.
Going to the Super Bowl. The Super Bowl.
Trademark. Registered.
Very excited for that. We have Fyre Fest.
We're going to talk doc rivers to the uh box we got a great friday show one of the last second to last penultimate football weekend of the year man that's sad but it's all forget about the pro bowl that's true flag pro ball flag football ever had one of those days when it's just too cold to keep working nah neither has ariot ariot work jackets and boots are packed with all the cold stopping waterproof protection you need to get the job done under any conditions so you can take any job out there and always deliver check out ariot in your local workwear retailer or visit ariot.com work to get 10% off your first order when you sign up for email. And whether whatever in Ariat Work Gear.
Okay, let's go. Boy! Boy! Now in the street there is violence And I'm not allowed to solve the work to be done No place to hang out or wash in And then I can't blame all on the sun Oh no We're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue And then we'll take it higher Oh we're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue It's Pardon My Take presented by it by Marshall Sports Welcome to Pardon My Take Today is Friday, January 26th And Henry Lockwood is producing this show Hey Throwback Yeah, we're in a little throwback state We're in New York City We were traveling night we have rough and rowdy coming up uh tonight if you buy it or you're gonna see this afterwards you can still buy it all weekend but hank it's a throwback when was the last time you fully produced the show it's been a while probably oh probably a year are you in charge of pressing the button i'm not in charge That's still Max? Yeah, I'm recording the show.
We're sending all the files back to Chicago. It's not fully producing.
Editing the show. Do you remember, Hank? I actually think about it, how crazy it was that you did all the producing and editing of this show for how long? Two, three years? Alone, probably three years.
jesus christ like thinking about back when we would do the sunday episodes and it would be one in the morning it was just hank he's just like i gotta just grind this whole thing the craziest was when we did the first grit week tour and i was the only one that like really knew how to operate the bus so i was also like taking care of the bus yeah and then we would do would do interviews and I would film them, record the audio and do all that stuff. That was bad.
You don't give enough credit. You would also have to empty the septic tank on the bus.
Yeah. Sometimes like, you know, Max, Max and memes.
I feel like they give me a little bit of like, you don't do shit around here. And I'm like, back in my day, like I was doing all this on my own.
Like they, they sometimes try and make me feel bad for like you know and i leave i'm like all right see you guys and i can feel that like fuck you the resentment yeah on the first in my head i'm like i don't i don't feel bad at all one second i remember we would show up to places for an interview and we'd we'd tell the people i think we said this to uh who was who's the coach that we interviewed at youngstown uh trestle when we like go into trestle's office we we're like, yeah, we need about five minutes to get our cameras and stuff set up. And Hank would just give us this look like, what? You fucking assholes.
We don't need five minutes. It's just me.
I'm carrying everything. You're right, though, Hank.
They should not give you any guff, have any resentment. This podcast was built on the blood, sweat, and tears of one Henry Lockwood.
Andwood and also on the blood sweat and tears of me and big cat having to call henry lockwood at one o'clock in the morning to wake him up so that he could record the show once i went on a boat it's one time you went on a boat on a saturday all right so we're here in new york a little bit different uh we're going to talk about conference championship we do have our friend peter in person which is great. We get to catch up with him.
Before we get into the games in the NFL this weekend, we should talk a little bit about the other sports that are going on. Doc Rivers, officially the Milwaukee Bucks head coach.
It's weird because ESPN got rid of Jeff Van Gundy. Doc Rivers was like, yeah, I'm in.

I'm ready.

And then what?

Halfway through the season, he's back in coaching.

And the Celtics got Jeff Van Gundy.

And the Celtics got, wait.

He's like a special assistant.

Oh, that's funny.

Yeah, he's like an advisor type role.

Be careful with that.

Yeah.

Doc Rivers just kind of installed himself from being an advisor to now head coach.

Yeah.

I feel bad for Adrian Griffin.

I feel really bad for him. Like you work your entire life as a coach to get a job coaching an nba team and they fire you after what 43 games and you have a good record i feel bad for him obviously it wasn't working out to the point that they wanted whether they're in second place in in the conference uh they're currently in second place yeah i feel bad for him uh they they're kind of like blaming him for the lack of defense on the box which do you know what happened in the off season do you remember yeah the the personnel change yeah drew holiday yeah and you got dame not exactly a lockdown lockdown perimeter defender and then you bring in a first year coach and you're like yeah we're gonna fire you because this advisor behind the scenes has been telling us that he wants to be a coach and then i don't know if you saw the reports that woge was doing on espn on sports center they were like woge can you talk us through how this whole situation played out behind the scenes woge spent like three hours going on various shows refining his message over and over again i saw the first one that he did and he was stumbling all over himself because he was like, yeah.
And then after they decided to make the move on from Griff at that point, then the Bucks front office made contact with Doc Rivers agent. Yeah.
And things have just gone really quickly since then. And then by the end of it, he had it down to a science where he was like, yeah, you know, the representative from Doc Rivers made contact with the bucks at this time he had like the timeline nailed down doc rivers was running this whole thing behind the scenes i so the only reason i don't feel bad for adrian griffin um and and the doc rivers part is is annoyed like he was kind of set up to fail the fact they brought in doc rivers and he had his eyes on coaching that team probably from the from the first second he walked in the facility.
But the only reason I don't feel bad for Adrian Griffin and I might be minimizing the job of a coach in the NBA, but his only job was to make Giannis like him. And maybe Giannis never gave him a shot.
Maybe Giannis was just never going to like him. But if you could just get Giannis to like you, you do you won't get get fired and so whatever like he should have he should have been like forget scheme forget how i'm going to coach just become yannis's best friend and i will at least have a shot yeah i would imagine that yannis was asked about this transaction i would say that all the reports is they didn't really see eye to eye uh from from the jump but i still feel bad for him yeah like as a person that you oh you got to remember he's got probably a family they got to move They got to change schools and bids.
Millions of dollars. But I still feel bad for him.
Yeah. Like as a person.
Oh, you got to remember, he's got probably a family.

They got to move.

They got to change schools and kids.

Millions of dollars, but that doesn't buy.

He still gets paid, right?

He still gets paid probably if they win the championship.

He gets a ring.

Should get a ring.

He should absolutely get a ring.

Yeah, I feel bad for the guy just on a human level,

having that happen behind the scenes.

I think you're probably right that if Giannis liked him,

if he was a disappointing head coach, let's say they were in like fourth, fifth place in the conference, but Giannis liked him, they probably would not make this move because they're thinking in the back of their heads, we got to keep this guy happy. Right.
If you want to keep your job in the NBA for a couple of years, you can either one, be so good that they can't fire you or two, make the star of the team love you. So I feel like, know maybe i'm wrong maybe like i think i could become best friends with janice if he gave me a shot you think so yeah just be like whatever you want janice whatever offense you want to run whatever you want to do i would just do what you want to do he and i would simply go to to raising canes every day and order 50 chicken tenders exactly be like Giannis, you got any other siblings you want on the team?

Yeah.

Let me know.

I can get everyone.

Your son, you want to put him on the team?

Cool.

Done.

Yeah.

No problem.

So, yeah, that was the big news we also had in coaching.

Jim Harbaugh has officially been named the coach of the San Diego Chargers.

I did say San Diego Chargers because he played there,

and I feel like that is just they should be the San Diego Chargers because it's not like jim harbaugh coming home when it's the la chargers we had the fun wrinkle of uh the famous chargers uh man i gotta find my wife i'm so hungry for some pf chang's tweet that the chargers account if people don't know the chargers twitter account in like oh seven was just run by a guy who would just do his personal tweets a lot of tweets about P.F. Chang's fun wrinkle Jim Harbaugh met his wife in a parking lot at a P.F.
Chang's I love that time is a flat circle time is a flat circle so maybe that was Jim Harbaugh running the account I think Jim Harbaugh will be in a Super Bowl within the next five years with the Chargers so Harbaugh is a a great coach, a great NFL coach. There's like a clock that you have to put on Harbaugh, and we love him.
But if you are like a GM, if you're another football guy in that front office, Harbaugh and you will probably get along really well for the first couple years. Then there will be an incident, and Harbaugh will not like you anymore because you're not enough of a football guy for him and then after a while uh things are probably not going to end fantastically out there when it doesn't but you definitely have like a four or five year span where you guys are going to be an awesome football team and Harbaugh is going to be a very very good head coach and I think actually like I think he'll have more time this time it depends on how they structure it with like does Harbaugh get to call the shots gm wise because that was the big thing in the niners he had the power struggle with the gm and that's kind of with trent balky and that kind of fell apart i i just think that once he starts winning which he will do i think his his career nfl record is like over 70 yeah it is he he he will win justin herbert will look good they will go deep into the playoffs, and winning cures all.
And if there is one franchise that Jim Harbaugh could change how we perceive them, the Chargers, whether it be toughness, injuries, just bad luck, it's Jim Harbaugh. He's going to make them a tough team instantly, and Justin Herbert's a very good quarterback.
So yeah, start the clock. Five years, five years i say five years he will be at least in a super bowl it's hard to win a super once you get there he'll be in a super bowl within five years also it was it's nice that jim harbaugh is trying to fulfill the prophecy of winning a super bowl so that not only can he sit at the big kids table but he can one over his brother.
We played the old clip of when we had John on,

and he was talking about how Jim Harbaugh would just hold his head underwater.

When they were adults, they would wrestle in the ocean,

and he would hold his head underwater,

and he could feel that that was maybe because of the Super Bowl.

Yeah, I think that there was definitely,

it had an impact on Harbaugh deciding to go to the Chargers,

the fact that they play the Ravens next year.

Yeah.

I think Harbaugh saw that, and he's like, yeah you know what i want i want my revenge asap against my brother and uh the the press release was pretty great that the chargers put out just said jim harbaugh is football personified yeah they were doing some great tweets yeah yeah he is a football he wants to oh he's told us many times all he wanted to do went from the very young age was play football until he can't play. He wants to coach football.
Then he wants to die. Yeah.
He probably wants to be buried inside of a football. Yes.
As a coffin. Chocolate football for everyone? Yeah.
Maybe get like 30 footballs and just put his ashes in all those and then throw them out into the ocean. I'm jealous.
I'm jealous of the Chargers. He will fix them right away.
Now Michigan. It's weird that people are like, he's leaving leaving a mess in Michigan I get it because of the NCAA and there might be some sanctions coming he just won a national title he beat Ohio State three years in a row if you're a Michigan fan, you sign up for that a hundred times out of a hundred, no matter what happens after this, you just won your first like outright national title since 1948, I think every single fan base would be like yup, up okay we got sanctions oh we're gonna suck for a few years who cares who cares mission accomplished mission accomplished hang the banner he did what he was brought in to do and uh congrats to congrats to michigan you're probably pretty happy for a michigan fan like you're not happy that he left obviously but the way things worked out you make that trade every single time yep it's definitely worth it for you guys and i think he finishes three and one against ryan day possibly because i know he could he couldn't beat urban uh i think he was three and five overall it might actually be three and oh against ryan day because it canceled the covid year uh but either way you have that over like jim harbaugh can be like i did it like i i i came back it took a little bit longer than I expected, but we beat the fuck out of Ohio State every single year, and we won the national title.
Fantastic football coach. It's going to be interesting to see how the Chargers deal with Patrick Mahomes.
They got to beat him. He might be the best quarterback of all time.
They're going to just have to beat him. They're just going to have to beat Patrick Mahomes.
Do you think that's part of the application process for somebody that's going to the AFC West? Like, what's your plan to take care of this guy? It is great that Harbaugh, like, because when we're talking to different people being like, what job is most attractive? It's like, well, you don't want to be in the AFC because of, you know, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, CJ Stroud. All these guys are going to be good for the next 10 years.
You really don't want to be in the AFC West. And Harbaugh is like, bring it.
Yeah. Fucking bring it.
Human body craves contact. AFC West, great coaches out there.
Great coaches. And yeah, I'm very excited to see how his return is to the NFL.
NFL is better when you got Jim Harbaugh coaching in it. He gets people amped up.
He's going to get the city amped up. I interested to see what he's gonna how he's gonna do with being like the little brother in their own stadium do they get are they not building no they're not i'm thinking of the clippers they're not building a new stadium he's gonna he's gonna be pretty upset when he walks in and he sees like all this ram shit everywhere yeah he's gonna tear it down we're gonna have to we're gonna have to put up some chargers stuff he might be the one who could bring back the chargers to san diego he might bring back boltman yeah i also i just want to say i need an update on how that chargers fan's doing right now yeah the plant he's probably very excited oh the plant yeah yeah she's going crazy she's not she's crying um i know that there's a lot of fake news twitter accounts people reporting stuff like the weird football you know like football insider twitter account or whatever nfl rumors nfl notifications did say we've been told that jim harbaugh had real interest in coaching caleb williams in chicago gm ryan poles decided to run it back with matt eberflus and harbaugh ended up in la uh i know this is probably fake but it still hurts my feelings i just want it on the record it should it feelings.
It should. I mean, imagine Caleb and Harbaugh together.
Pretty good. Man.
Man. All right.
Anything else before we get to the games? The Falcons are interviewing everyone. Yeah.
Vrabel and Belichick are going for the same head coaching job. Yeah.
And Sloic. My four-year-old son, Chris, and Blake are tracking Arthur Smith's jets.
Okay.

And it's kind of a weird thing because they've also interviewed the defense coordinator for the Panthers.

But they flew out.

They picked up Vrabel, flew him to Atlanta, and then they put him back on their jet,

and they flew him to his next interview with Carolina.

Well, that actually makes sense because no one wants a Carolina job. Soolina job so they're like yeah fine we'll treat you so well like we don't care you can go talk to them

yeah you it's actually like it's like dropping a hoe off at her next dick appointment it's like

here you go i know you're not gonna stick up you're not gonna stick with that guy yeah right

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Okay, boys championship Sundayay the kansas a chiefs are going to baltimore the first ever championship game in baltimore in ravens history which is pretty crazy a team that's won two super bowls in the last 25 years is hosting their first afc championship game also the first time since 2017 that the afc championship game won't be in Kansas City, which is just a wild thing to just think about. And it was five years in a row that it was just like, yep, they'll have the AFC championship game.
How are we feeling about this game? I feel like the Ravens are the better team, but it's Patrick Mahomes. That's exactly what it comes down to.
That's my analysis. It's Patrick Mahomes versus the entire city of Baltimore right now.
Correct. They're bringing back the legends.
You're going to have Ed Reed there. You're going to have Ray Lewis there.
Jonathan Ogden is going to be the captain. Michael Phelps is dropping off the game ball.
Hell yes. You've got Stavi.
Yeah, Stavi, baby. Ronnie, you mean.
Ronnie from Dundalk is going to be there. They're going to have Terrell Suggs, who said that he's going back.
Didn't Terrell Suggs also play for the Chiefs? Ooh. I think he might have.
That was late. That might be an all-time like, I can't believe this guy played for this team.
Yeah. But yeah, it's going to be Baltimore against Patrick Mahomes and Baltimore is a better team.
2019 Chiefs. Also 2019 Cardinals.
Oh, that's weird. That's really weird.
Yeah. It's basically the entire Ravens franchise against Patrick Mahomes because they're the better defense and the better overall offense.
Yep. But they don't have Patrick.
They have the MVP, but they don't have Patrick Mahomes. And it's Hank.
Sorry to bring up Tom Brady here, but it does feel like that type of game where we could. In my heart of hearts, I do think the Ravens is a better team that're going to win on Sunday but if we're sitting here on Sunday night and we're like the Chiefs are going to the Super Bowl again it's going to be very similar to a Tom Brady like how do they do it oh yeah Patrick Mahomes oh yeah Tom Brady like there's no explanation for it it's just Patrick Mahomes somehow had the ball late and he was able to drive them down and win the game And if you're a Ravens fan, that has to just be keeping you up at night.

Because, again, I do think they all around more rest, better.

They're healthier.

The Chiefs got a bunch of injuries in the, you know, Joe Thune might not play,

which is going to be huge in terms of pressure up the middle.

Like, it doesn't matter, though, because it's Patrick Mahomes.

And if he does play, that's a pretty significant injury for an offensive lineman to be dealing with.

Yeah.

He's got the strain, which means like partially torn.

Strained pec.

I'll see you next week. It doesn't matter, though, because it's Patrick Holmes.
And if he does play, that's a pretty significant injury for an offensive lineman to be dealing with. Yeah.
He's got the strain, which means like partially torn pec muscle, which you use a lot if you play offensive line, obviously. They also have Gay.
Gay is hurt, not injured, but he's going to try to play. But it's like a stinger in his neck.
It's a neck situation, which might impact him. And he's going to be a big factor because he's the spy yeah so he's going to spy lamar jackson and if which doesn't really work with lamar jackson it doesn't but it's good to it's good to have the spy there you need to spy and then you need to like do a hybrid spy and then just let him loose yeah because it's if you if you spy lamar jackson he will just stand there and then when he wants to move you're going to be like flat-footed oh fuck where am i going how can i you can't spy him the only way so fast you just need him right need a player that's as fast as lamar right spy to counter lamar and as good runner but um if if they have to go to a backup i do think it's going to impact a little bit it's um yeah and it's i i think the ravens will be able to run the ball.
I think that's their key is because the chief secondary is, is pretty damn good with Snead and McDuffie. Like they've done a very good job.
And I think maybe just run the ball down their throat. You saw the bills have a little success with that.
And then on the other side, you just have to hope that Patrick Mahomes doesn't just, he isn't just what he has been his whole career, which is the best quarterback in the world. Yeah.
Because I do think the Ravens defense is going to give a lot more of a fight than we saw from the Bills or the Dolphins. And like, I'm a little, we're a little skewed because you have to, you have to play the game in your head.
Like we saw the chiefs offense be broken for the majority of the regular season. Then they get to the playoffs and it looks like they're fine because they played is it because Patrick Mahomes is in the playoffs and he's like we're just gonna I'm just gonna elevate my game and elevate everyone around me or was it the Dolphins are really injured the Bills are really injured could the Chiefs offense still be slightly broken when they play a real defense so they got last week they got the they got the MVS game.
MVS played really well. I don't know if that's just who he is as a player now.
I doubt it. I think that's as good as you can expect him to play.
I feel like without him playing to that level, they're not going to be able to beat the Ravens. Yes.
So it's like, can this guy catch lightning in a bottle if you look at his hands? Probably not. Yes.
Also, the Ravens,vens we should note because there are levels to this the ravens have played a lot of playoff teams this year i think there's something like eight and one against playoff teams and they've killed them all pretty much like they have i think the browns that one loss is the browns game remember where everything kind of got freaky and they're up 14 uh stealers oh yeah that's right so they've lost to two. Yeah, that was also a game where they just Ravens dropped everything.
So that's a possibility. It went to overtime against the Rams.
That was a close one. Yeah, but they beat the Texans and made the playoff.
They killed the Lions, who obviously are in the NFC Championship game. You know, they killed the 49ers.
They killed the Dolphins. We'll see.
I don't know. I just Patrick Mahomes in the back of your head.
Hypothetically, like obviously Patrick Mahomes, greatest quarterback to ever walk the earth. No, we did not say that.
Get him as plus money in the playoffs. I think he said on track.
He's on track to be in the conversation. How does the conversation change hypothetically if they lose by 10 plus? I'm not here to have hypothetical discussions about this, Hank.
Well, Brady lost in the conference championship game. Patrick Mahomes is 8-3 straight up in his career as an underdog.
Hank, to answer your question, Patrick Mahomes is not as good as Tom Brady yet. He's not.
There's there's no debate on... Like, if Patrick Holmes retired tomorrow,

there is no debate.

It's the path that he's on that you have to at least admit.

I have admitted that.

Right.

Like, that's what it is.

But yeah, Tom Brady lost championship games.

Not until he won three Super Bowls.

That's true.

So after he won three...

He didn't lose a playoff game

until he won three Super Bowls. He also didn't go to the playoffs the second year after winning one super bowl passion just goes to afc and then what do you do the next two years he won two super bowls this would be the first back-to-back since then right yeah it would it's very hard to go back to back yeah i just you have to admit that it's just it it is like repeating itself in terms of like this guy there's it's very rare that you can sit here like like we've been saying before this he's he's the prince in waiting but he hasn't been crowned yet i feel like people are like oh well but he here's why he is on this path is because what we've just said for the last 10 minutes the ravens are are the better team, but Patrick Mahomes.
Yeah. So that's where that's in like, that's an actual argument to be made.
I also am very excited to see Steve Spagnuolo versus Lamar Jackson, because it feels like they can't blitz as much as the Texans, but Spagnuolo is one of the best defensive coordinators in the league. And it's going to be a great chess match.
Chess matches all over the field. Chess matches on both sides, too, because then you've got McDonald, Mike McDonald, the coordinator for the Ravens against Patrick Mahomes.
Yes. Chess matches ever against Andy Reid.
Yeah. It's actually funny when you think about it.
It's the meme when the Marines or whatever army guys are lined up and there's one clown. So it's like Mike McDonald, Todd Munkin, John Harbaugh, Andy Reid, Steve Spagnuolo, Matt Nagy.
Yeah. He's a clown.
That's the one guy who doesn't fit in in those six coaches that are all incredible coaches. According to Mike Florio, the stoner that doesn't smoke weed, he thinks that Biennium might be giving some advice, some consulting to the Chiefs, and that's why the Chiefs' offense has improved.
Oh, I like that. I actually just made that extra nugget up because I like imagining a reason for the Chiefs' offense to flip that switch.
It's Eric Biennemi. But Florio was saying if they make the Super Bowl, they could bring Biennemi in to be a consultant.
I personally would just like to say I think that what's been happening, two things. One, Bien-Ami has been providing secrets behind the scenes to the Kansas City offense to improve them.
And also, Connor Stallions has been helping Harbaugh out after he had to be let go from Michigan. So he's helping John Harbaugh and the Ravens defense, especially, figure out the offensive signals.
It's a fan fiction bowl. Yeah, I could see John Harbaugh hiring Connor Stallions to like come up with stuff and then just not using any of the reports just being like i i want to make sure that he's working for us and no one else or jim harbaugh probably told connor stallions hey go help my brother out go help him win another super bowl or get as far as they can but also write down every fucking thing that happens to the ravens yes and then i'm bringing you with me to los Angeles.
And you're going to help me beat my brother next year. Yes.
I like this. Is that legal for beating me to work for two teams at once? Well, he's not.
Is he under contract right now? He is. He is currently our offensive coordinator.
Got it. That's interesting.
Yeah, it is interesting. Legal.
I don't know. I've just become kind of jaded to the fact that a bunch of shady dealings happen all the time that are kind of outside the scope of what is legal and what is not in the NFL.
And so I feel like if he really wanted to, if Andy Reid called, he would answer the phone.

correct correct uh all right do you have a nerd nugget yes for the chiefs quarterback patrick mahomes his 38 career playoff passing touchdowns are sixth most in nfl history and if he throws

three in this game he would pass peyton Manning and join the top five for most postseason passing touchdowns it's crazy considering still feels like Mahomes is so early in his career and he's already on the verge of passing Peyton Manning yes yeah playoffs and for the go ahead Peyton Manning was a choker in the playoffs for a very long time he still won a few Super Bowls yeah but he remember he was a choker for a very long time until a Super Bowl. Yeah, that's fair.
My Murd Nugget of the week is that Ray Lewis is going to be a legendary honoree of the game in Baltimore this weekend. For the Ravens with last week's win, they now have 17 playoff wins since 2000, most in the NFL for teams not named the Patriots.
And you mentioned all the good teams they've beaten. 10 wins this season against teams with winning records the most in any team in NFL history.
That was a stat. Yeah, that's a good stat.
The Ravens have, like when we talk frauds and everything, the Ravens have played very good competition. And they have beat and destroyed a lot of it.
Okay. Lions at Niners.
Lions at Niners. Our boy Jared Goff cracked a few jokes on the podium.
Oh, that was awesome. The reporter was like, you've got some very good players in your team.
Hold on, let's do it. Let's replay it.
I'll be the reporter. Okay.
You've got some really good players on your team. Thank you.
You know, maybe not the superstars that everyone knows like the Niners. Okay, never mind.
It was awesome. That was end scene.
Just punked him. It was a great delivery by him.
To try to talk shit about his teammates like that. No, no, no.
Jared's a good teammate. Jared's a good quarterback.
I cannot root for the Niners this weekend, unfortunately. I am.
I'm rooting for George Kittle. You have to be able to put aside your pre-existing fandoms and be like, you know what? Detroit needs this.
Detroit needs it. There's such a good story.
How can you root against dan campbell division rival i've already been through this i i'm not rooting against them like i might be like fuck detroit they made it to the super bowl but i can't i'm i told you i've i've reached my limit but you would be happy if they made it to this i'd be happy for for my friends who are lions fans and detroit don and super fan because we'd be buying them tickets to the super bowl. So I would be happy for that.
Superbowl week would be fun. And I, I don't, I don't hate the Niners.
I like the Niners. I think that are a great team.
I think they're probably, you know, they're favored for a reason. The one thing that makes me a little bit nervous, if you are betting on the Niners is we don't know what's going to happen.
Debo. So, and their offense is so much Debo.
Samuel has the impact on their offense offense like most quarterbacks have on their offense. 49ers are 12-1 straight up and 10-3 against the spread when Debo Samuel starts and finishes the game.
They are 1-4 straight up and 0-5 against the spread when he doesn't. The 49ers record when Debo Samuel gets at least one target.
When he gets at least one target, they're 44-13 straight up. When he doesn't, they're 9 and 10 straight up.
It's crazy. It is.
When we look back at that Packers-Niners game, that is way more significant than the rain. And how Brock Purdy looked is losing Debo Samuel.
I know people will be like, well, that just proves the point that he's a system quarterback. Who cares? Debo Samuel is that good.
He's that much of a game changer. If he's not playing, the Lions are as alive as alive could be.
So after talking to Chris Long about the two levels of quarterbacks that we can have, the elite conversation and the game manager, I just think that Purdy is an elite game manager. Yeah, that's a good one.
And that's fine. That's lovely.
That's a wonderful thing to have for your team, especially if you have a really talented team with like five impact players on offense if you have an elite game manager guess what the game is going your game is great and it will be managed really well yes i do think the lions are going to be able to run the ball uh in this game i want to see some man football out of dan campbell i am nervous about uh the lions secondary especially if Debo Samuel plays because uh the way the Lions play defense this is from my friends at Sports Info Solutions uh they play a lot of middle middle of the field open coverage so cover zero man cover two cover two Brock Purdy is the best quarterback against that type of defense and it makes sense dicing up guys going across the hitting guys with timing, all these things. Getting the ball to Kittle and then letting Kittle run for like 45 yards, running through a motherfucker's face.
Right. Christian McCaffrey coming out of the backfield, catching passes.
So it will be interesting to see though if the Niners, who are a very good running team, going up against the number one rush defense in the Lions, it feels like, not to be cliche, this game is going to be one in the trenches. Oh, I like that.
Yeah. Old school football.
Right. It's like if the Niners can run the ball and they can somehow stop the Lions from running the ball as effective as they've been all season, it feels like the Niners have a huge, huge advantage.
And if the reverse happens, it's game on, Lions.

I'm concerned that Yusek isn't going to be geared up for this game

because he's going to be online gassing up his wife

for whatever Taylor Swift wears to the Baltimore game.

Simp of the year.

Simp of the year.

By the way.

Can you imagine loving your wife that much?

How gay is that?

I was on Pittsburgh radio this morning, and the guys had a good idea.

Taylor Swift should not go to the game this weekend because if she doesn't go to the game and they lose, she can be like, I was the I was actually the lucky charm here. If they go to the game and win, it's going to be the big story in Vegas anyway.
No one will kind of remember that she was not at the game in Baltimore. Yeah.
Also, going from Bills fans to Baltimore fans, a little bit of a difference. Bills are crazy, but they're also lovable.
And they welcome people. They welcome people with open arms.
I don't feel like Baltimore fans do the same. I don't know if they welcome people with open arms.
I don't know if Buffalo. Jason Kelsey was just partying with all of them.
I don't think that Buffalo welcomed Taylor with open arms. I think they welcome.
You have to take your shirt off to be welcomed with open arms in Buffalo, like Fitzpatrick. Unfortunately, Taylor thought that was beneath her to do that.
And her hat off during the National Anthem. Yeah, kept that on.
Allegedly. Allegedly.
Allegedly. Well, Mintz.
That motherfucker doesn't miss either. Ben Mintz has years on the ground everywhere.
But I don't know. I feel like Baltimore.
They got an edge. They got an edge.
I like it. They got an edge to them for sure.
But I don't know that. I don't think she's going to miss.
I think she's going to be there. Okay.
I'm just saying it wouldn't be the dumbest thing to just skip this one. Because like I said, if they get to the Super Bowl, it's like, well, it's Taylor Swift's Super Bowl.
Yeah. And if they lose, you can be like, you needed me at every game.
The NFL definitely wants you there yes it was like the most watched tv event ever it's they absolutely want them there yeah um okay anything else from this game i got something oh yeah nerd nugget do do do oh nerd nugget of the week okay on sunday the detroit lions are aiming for the first playoff win since 1957 when they beat the san Francisco 49ers. Detroit would then go on to beat the Cleveland Browns in the NFL championship game, who would then relocate in 1996 to become the Baltimore Ravens.
Is this a sign the Lions will once again beat the Ravens in the Super Bowl? Yes. What about the Super Bowl logo stuff? Oh, yeah.
The Super Bowl logo is Ravens and Chiefs. So for the past two years, the colors of the logo have corresponded pretty closely to the teams that end up making the Super Bowl.

I think that every time I look at those logos, I just look at the old ones, and I'm like, those were so much better.

Bring back the old Super Bowl logos that had an identity that had personality to them.

They've been sanitized.

Also, there's a bunch of red teams and a bunch of purple teams. It's also true.
What do you mean? Like they're saying it's 49ers Ravens. The Vikings.
The Vikings. I guess that's it.
Pretty quick. Yeah.
There's a lot of red teams. Yeah.
I believe in that shit. You think Roger Goodell before the season, he's like, you know what? It's time to, it's time to examine the logos for the Super Bowl.
They'll never pick up on this. I'm going to make them the exact colors of the teams that are going to be in there.
Will you admit that Patrick Mahomes is on the Tom Brady path if he beats the Super Bowl logo thing? Yeah. Yeah.
Cause that's big. That's significant.
I'm just so, so, Oh, you taking the Raven ravens i don't think i'm going to bet it because i've been so bad and it would just be doubly painful but i think the ravens smoke them how much actually you know what we'll ask peter schrager about this but i always wonder because aaron glenn and uh ben johnson are doing a bunch of interviews how much that actually it has to affect you a little bit. It's a shitty rule.
I thought they used to not do that. Yeah, I know.
You shouldn't have. The Patriots coaches weren't allowed to interview, I remember, until after the Super Bowl.
Or until the in-between week before the Super Bowl. Yeah.
Yeah, the coordinators doing interviews right before the biggest games of their careers. It doesn't feel right.
Because you're basically taking an interview for the biggest job of your life and you have nerves you got to get prepared and it's that's has to take away hours from getting ready for the game if i were a coach i would in somebody was was interviewing me to see if i want to be a head coach somewhere i'd be like okay so i didn't prepare for this interview at all because i'm laser focused on winning the nfc championship game hired and then as an owner i'd be like that mother hired yeah we want that guy yeah i'm not even gonna take this interview if you want me you can wait yeah i care about my team so much care about the guys i've got one more thing on the niners quarterback brock purdy is the fifth quarterback in nfl history to win a playoff game in each of his first two seasons uh can you guys name the other four wait say it again a playoff quarterback in nfl history to win a playoff game in each of his first two seasons Mark Sanchez. Yep.
Andrew Luck. Joe Flacco.
Yep.

Roethlisberger.

Tom Brady. again a playoff quarterback in nfl history to win a playoff game in each of his first two seasons mark sanchez yep andrew luck joe flacco yep uh tom brady not brady oh yeah because this is the second season yeah flacco big ben mark sanchez and one more hold on hold on hold on hold on wait patrick holmes because he wasn't technically his first two seasons russell wilson oh oh russell wilson i'll say andrew luck might have i said that oh you said that yeah he won his first year and that comeback against the chiefs oh no no they lost to the chiefs right that's right they had a big lead against the chiefs yeah that was the 41 to 10 game yeah yeah like the first saturday game yeah yeah i flipped in my brain.
Yeah. Okay.
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We're going to talk more conference championship, preview the games. He's got all the inside sources.
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Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, recurring guest, in person. It's Peter Schrager from Good Morning Football Also NFL Network

NFL Network

Fox NFL Kickoff

We do the weekend show for Fox

So what does it feel like being just owned by the league

Yeah, no, it's a burden

It's great

I get to do the show on NFL Network

I get some of the perks in a lot of ways

Being behind the shield

So people will pick up my call when I call

But yeah, gotta toe the line where appropriate

Are you behind the shield or are you protecting the shield?

Interesting, I'm in the line where appropriate.

Are you behind the shield or are you protecting the shield?

Interesting.

I'm in the front lines.

Yeah.

You're the shield for the shield.

You're the tip of the spear.

I'm the shield for the tip of the spear.

Tip of the spear of the shield.

And they tell you before the season starts who's going to be playing the Super Bowl, right?

They lay it all out and they say, just play along with this script.

I saw that your pick was the Chiefs and the Niners.

That's interesting.

It was.

So back in September, we have to make our picks. I have now had five straight years of picking the correct sewer bowl champion and i take great pride and pat myself on the back for this and uh that included the buccaneers run with brady the rams run with stafford that's crazy yeah and then this year i went and did a whole thing because i realized in our world if you don't promote yourself no one else will and so i was like well they're certainly not about this on all the other shows.
I'm going to talk about it on our freaking show. So I did a whole thing and I basically said, and I just don't know how it happens.
I don't know where it happens, but the Chiefs will win again because until Mahomes, I see him get knocked off his block. He's not losing and they're going to beat the Niners.
And now it's kind of it. And now I'm in this jam because I'm watching this Ravens team and I'm super into them.
And to break the fourth wall, my wife is from Baltimore. Her father is a diehard Raven slash Colton.
My wife's father has been to every Baltimore Super Bowl ever, including Super Bowl three. Holy shit.
Was he in diner? He was in diner. He was right across from Barry Levinson while they were filming that.
Yeah, you could pass the test. He could pass the test.
He knows all the stuff from the Colts teams from the 60s and 70s. So my son is seven years old, getting into sports, and he just loves Lamar Jackson, loves Baltimore.
And it's one of those heart versus mind versus my own career. Do I just ride with the Chiefs right now? Or do I say, screw it, I'm going to root for the Ravens here because it's good for my family and i can actually go back for thanksgiving well it sounds like you've hedged yourself nicely which we just finished doing we were doing the preview and we're like baltimore is the better team yes overall better defense like offense that has looked better for the the course of the season but it's patrick mahomes that's the thing and that's it it's patrick mah.
You're watching last week against Houston, and there was like five false start penalties. There was a couple of delay games, and that was just a crowd.
And already they've said who's going to be at this thing. Ed Reed and Ray Lewis are welcoming in.
Terrell Suggs will be there. Michael Phelps is going to be involved in some way.
So this is like the ultimate Baltimore love fest. They haven't had a home AFC championship game since 1971 in Baltimore.imore this place is going to be pandemonium so everything on paper says it's going to be ravens and yet that's wrong don't forget about t-pain t-pain yeah yeah so fall out boy last week no not fall i'm sorry our guys uh jimmy eat world last week yeah they should get cisco back t-pain why not all right so i want to want to talk about the conference championship games, but while we were doing the show, we had an interesting thought that you're so clued in.
Is there a chance Bill Belichick doesn't get a job this year? Yeah. Why? What's happening? Yeah, the only thing that was coming up was Atlanta.
They met last week. Right.
We're recording this. It's Thursday.
He already had a second interview with them and if you're bill belichick or if you're the falcons i don't you're not getting a third interview like actually let's go back and watch some of the stuff that you can you know sell yourself to us that's you would know by now it's crazy that he did a second interview it's crazy to second interview and i tweeted this last night on the x um i took to x uh 14 different coaches have interviewed for this falcons job yeah what but 14 different ones and belichick twice so it's like if it's not the falcons i don't have another team for him yeah here's a little nugget for you though to my knowledge i think belichick is the only one that got the vacation that took him to antigua that's it all it. All the other ones have taken place at the Falcons facility.
He had a- But they took him, they wind and dined him a little bit more. But what's going on? Like what is happening that he's not, like if you want him, you should have hired him.
And it's done. Right.
And it's you figure out the financials and yes, you can bring McDaniels and yes, you can bring everyone you want and bring your whole band of characters and we'll rebuild New England here. It hasn it hasn't happened yet.
So it's Arthur blank. Arthur blank has, um, a son who I think is getting more involved as well.
And then you've got rich McKay, who's a long time NFL guy was with Tampa for years. And then of course it's been with Atlanta through and through.
And then they also have Terry Fontenot, who's like a young up and coming, really respected GM who they hired from the saints a couple years ago. And to hear McKay and Fontenot are also in these interviews, or at least was in one of the interviews is really interesting to me.
Does Belichick gel with guys that he inherits? Like he of course knows Rich McKay from years of being at the league, but it seems like that's an unorthodox situation too, where Belichick's like, yeah, Terry Fontenot guy in his forties who has, you know, drafted players for saints in the the glory years of the two that he's going to tell me who to pick i'm curious the dynamic and what that's what's the holdup is the front office so if you had to put your money on it right now who's going to be the coach of the falcons i don't know you have no idea i have no like vrabel potentially mike vrabel as we speak is meeting with david tepper and the panthers well we were saying that that like the the if to the Falcons, then you go to the Panthers. I don't think you have to be worried that he's going to go take the Panthers job.
That has to be the least excited job. I disagree.
Why? I like the Panthers. Why? I like the Panthers.
Is David Tepper paying you? David Tepper will pay. Okay.
Okay. First of all, that.
I guess you technically get a roundabout way. Can I do a little Tepper thing? And everyone could say, well, of course, you're from the league.
You're going to talk positively you're going to talk positive about the owner i don't think that's exactly what we'll say i don't think all the owners do talk about tepper um all right do you know tepper's career like a little bit yeah yeah so this was a guy who was like truly the renegade of wall street and i kind of like that already he worked at goldman for years and then you know after a bunch of years of being passed over he's like all right i'm gonna go start my own thing appaloosa they have this great ride the guy who kept on passing them over at goldman ends up i believe getting a divorce has to sell his hampton's house temper buys the hampton's house and it just demolishes it yeah grudge nice grudge yeah it's okay so already we're kind of seems well adjusted yeah okay apparently you walk into his office on wall street the appaloosa thing You walk in and there's just two brass testicles yeah again well adjusted yeah just right yeah um and yet he's had employees there for 30 years and he's had he pays well probably he's had remarkable very good at blackmail wall street yeah and then the other part of it is like he three different times in his career um because i had to do a whole like study on it obviously uh black Friday, he was ahead of it, knew that was coming, whenever that was, in 87, or it was Black Monday, I'm sorry. It was Black, whatever it was, 87, he beat that one.
Then in 08, with the housing market, he beat that one. And then on COVID, in February of 2020, he's on CNBC being like, I'd get rid of all your hospitality stocks, I'd get rid of all your restaurant stocks.
So wait, he... But all of this is nothing to do with football.
My point is, this is a guy who has gone all in against the grain. I think it hasn't clicked yet with the football and I would say, okay, I'll roll with that guy and did he spill a drink on a fan from Jacksonville? Yeah, it was.
I wouldn't say spill. It was not an accident.
Throw was the word. Do we have any idea what was going on before that? I'm not defending David Tepper.
All right, so now I do think you're getting paid by David Tepper. I have nothing to do with it.
Spill a drink. We don't know if the fan wanted to have that drink.
I don't think he was. Whoops.
Sorry for spilling this at you. So what you've told us is that he's kind of a baby, and he has successfully beaten the market, possibly through insider trading.
Can't work with others. Yeah, can't work with others.
Yeah, like basically has the people to win his people skills are essentially i'll pay you money and then you'll you'll stick with me i i kind of like that he's against the grain he's a voice he's a new owner and he's kind of a voice in these league meetings too where well but hold on you know how this league works when when all these guys and and women get together and they see you know a guy who's trying to do it his way and he keeps failing they cut they like him they want to keep him around dan snyder stayed around for a long time he was good for all the other guys because he's like jerry jones we're going to be competitive jerry jones loved that was his best friend as far as owners go yeah so i don't take what the owners say him and they say yes gosh they're the worst team. Keep them around.
They're the worst team in football. They don't have their number one pick and the guy can't figure.
He's having meetings with Frank Reich twice a week, which any football coach would be like, what the fuck? I think they're doing a good search right now. Obviously, now I'm already in the bag, it sounds like.
You put yourself in a corner here. I'm now fighting out of it.
I would say the Dan Morgan hire was unexpected because everyone figured he would just wipe everyone out. Morgan was there.
So you're going to bring him in. They're probably going to bring someone else who can handle some of the salary cap stuff and also the contract negotiations.
And then I think they're going to hire a coach that can work with Bryce Young. I don't think it's that horrible a job.
I think Charlotte's a cool city to live in. I think there's opportunity.
And I also think the NFC South south is still wide open next year they could turn it around the the best argument you can make for david tepper as an owner is because of his background and his makeup and everything that he's done in his life he will reach a point where he gets so sick of losing that he'll be like maybe i have to do it someone else's way that's the best argument i don't i don't think his way is currently working but like a guy like that they don't like losing and they don't like being a joke so he will eventually hit that threshold where he's like okay yeah i probably should like listen to someone else yeah and and i'll tell you it's it's gonna be an uphill battle obviously with no first round pick and that hurts and you could say well their salary cap's a mess and all that thing i I don't know. I kind of like guys who Al Michaels calls games.
Right. And the, it's always like, he's got like these, he's a little bit of a rascal.
I feel like Tepper is a little bit of a rascal. Now a rascal.
Rascal is a great word. Great word.
And it's kind of like, all right, this is how I'm supposed to do things. I'm going to do it my way.
And I, I think he wants to win so badly and he's done it on the wall street, which I think is as competitive as the NFL. And I understand that there's a lot of personal stuff and you could say well it's more about teamwork and chemistry than just some renegade out there i think he desperately wants to win and i i wouldn't i wouldn't sell on david tepper and the panthers just yet okay well i think that with the character arc of a owner like this typically goes you go in you try to do it your way you fail then you say i've learned my lessons i'm now going to turn things over to football people that understand football sounds like they are but then you know but step number two is you say all those things but you still metal behind the scenes then step number three the third act is when you actually take your hands just like all right someone else can can run this show if you're variable though and you interview the falcons and your son is signed to the team i feel like that makes it a little bit more attractive right yeah i feel like that has to be if it's offered right i think it's interesting variable belichick both these guys pete carroll hasn't even gotten an interview anywhere it's like i think everyone thought well if they're really going to still want to be coaching all three of those guys would we get first dibs in i don't know if it's a changing of the guard in the nfl where a lot of these owners are like i'd rather just do it my way and bring in a young guy and we can mold that thing together yeah we're gonna get back to peter schrager in a second he's being brought to you by coars light hanging with friends and family to watch the big game is the best but as the game heats up it can get intense that's why coars light has that signature ice cold refreshment to keep you feeling chill for the big game stock up on coars light choose chill.
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We got something that we want to fix on this show. It's the process of interviewing coordinators as they're still in the playoffs because it feels like it's broken.
On one hand, you want to like spend all your time interviewing guys that you don't want to hire wait till those teams are bounced for the playoffs and now you can interview but at the same time it's like they have a job they've got the most important games of their life in some cases coming up that they they need to be prepared for what is the solution to this it's tough because last week um ben johnson who is the hottest name you were in obviously your your washington stuff i think that's that's a good fit for them i want that i think you do and i think he'd be great um he interviewed for three different jobs via zoom on the saturday before their game on sunday and you got to think well god that's the perfect time for these last second adjustments and looking at it but dave canalis his opponent was also interviewing for the Carolina Panthers job the day before the same game. So it does seem like it's messed up.
The plan would be just you can't hire anybody until after Super Bowl and you got it. But then you're now, you're knocking on the door with the combine, which is a week later, the draft, which is already happening.
So it's an imperfect science. They've changed a lot of the rules for the better, I think, to give more opportunities to minority candidates.
And the Rooney rule, of course, requires that. And now you also have things where you can't interview.
Those guys can't be interviewing right now. If you're playing this weekend, you can't be interviewing this week before the conference championship game.
So that is at least in place. But it's an imperfect science.
And the worst situation is a guy spends the entire night before the game interviewing with some other team, and then they get out because of this. Yeah, we definitely would blame that.
Or if you're a coordinator for a Super Bowl team and then the day after the Super Bowl, if you lose, then you get hired in the same town that the Super Bowl was in. That would be a strange look too.
They paid the price for it. I actually like what the Eagles are doing.
I like Fangio. I like Fangio too.
He's the best. Who would you guys want as the offensive coordinator?

It literally is like an episode of The Bachelor.

As a Commanders fan, I hope that they just bring Ron Rivera over there.

As the offensive coordinator.

Yeah, offensive.

Like they did with Castillo.

They do like the Matt Patricia thing where it's like, okay, you know what?

You know how to beat a defense because we've seen how you play.

So I feel like as an offensive coordinator, you'd be really good.

That's what I like to say.

What's interesting is they have already a staff there and not all those guys have been fired sirianni is an offensive coach gave up the play calling last year so now you're in this weird deal i know one coach i'll even say kingsbury uh interviewed for them he did it via zoom he said it was really good and it was like interesting because i think a lot of these coaches are coming in and it's like all right well nick's an offensive guy am I going to be able to run my offense? And apparently the Eagles are like, yeah, bring your offense and bring who you want with you and let's see what you can do. And I think it's going to be a very attractive job because all the skill position players and the offensive line is incredible.
Is it, though? Because I always wonder this, like the Bears and the Eagles, obviously different because the Eagles went to the Super super bowl but if you're an offensive coordinator candidate and you're trying to get this job are you in the back of your head being like this guy is on the hot seat already that if it doesn't go well we're all going to be looking for jobs again or does it not matter because hey there's only 32 of these jobs you got to take whatever you can get no it's a great question and in iberflus's case think he's a lame duck coach, and this is like the last year, and obviously Shane Waldron got the job, you'd also say, I'm also taking on either a rookie quarterback in Caleb, or I'm coming in with fields where I've got to kind of adjust to whatever they're putting around him. The Eagles one is different, though, because you already have the fully built offensive line.
I didn't mean to compare them. Yeah.
No, no, but it's a good point. And then the question is, did they hit such a low this year that no matter what, if you're the offensive coordinator, you're being praised.
And it's like, okay, well, they fixed the offense. You can't get worse than what it was.
True. All right, so let's talk about the games this weekend.
Let's start with the AFC Championship game. You have people around the league.
You talk to everyone. What is it about this Ravens defense that has been so special this year uh we we we have the hypothesis that there are some franchises that it actually matters

that like Ray Lewis and Ed Reed played there because it seems like the Ravens just play with

that edge that's just like built into their like franchise like they have that edge they have the

dudes that are just like nasty and want to get after you but what when you talk to different

offensive coordinators or coaches what is it that gives them such an edge and they're making it's so

I'll talk to different offensive coordinators or coaches, what is it that gives them such an edge and it's so hard to score points on them? Yeah, I think John Harbaugh had a really cool quote yesterday, and it's actually from Steve Smith who said it years ago. He's talking about Roquan Smith, which I know it breaks your heart seeing.
Yeah, no, he's a perfect Raven. And he said, he goes, that guy has been a Raven his whole career.

He just didn't know it until he got here, which is such a badass comment.

And they've had guys like that, whether it be the C.J. Mosley types or the Terrell Suggs or even Haloti Nata.

Those guys, they're like Ravens.

That's just what they are.

And I think they've got a bunch of them on this team.

McCourty, who I work with, Jason McCourty, is a defensive back for 13 years.

So I could talk to the offensive coordinators, but I also talk to him every day for three hours. What they do is they mix and match.
It's like you don't know what version of the defense you're going to get. So one day they're looking at you and it's one totally different look than it was the week before.
And they have kicked the shit out of so many good teams in that building. What they did to Detroit was real.
They beat them by something in the 30-something. And obviously they beat the Dolphins.
They beat beat the Seahawks. When the Seahawks were the hottest team, two seed in the NFC, they blew them out.
And then they go up to Santa Clara, obviously, and did that. And last week, I thought that it was going to be a closer game, especially at the half.
It's 10-10. And then it was just too much.
It was suffocating. And you're talking about all those false starts and all the way the crowd got into it.
It felt like it was just an avalanche. But this guy McDonald, if Ben Johnson isn't the coach of Washington, I'd keep an eye on him also there because he's brilliant.
And talking to him a little bit, I don't know him that well, but his story is cool. He was at UGA and then he went to the Ravens for a long time.
And then Jim Harbaugh took him to Michigan. As you probably know, he was defensive coordinator there.
And then John took him back. So he's got the college and the pro.
And he's 37, smart, cool.

And the players really connect with him. So I think what they do is they match up with everybody.

And you can't really prepare for it because they do so many different things.

What about Kansas City's defense?

So Kansas City's defense, much better than it has been in the past.

Chris Jones will just fuck you up.

He just has a few plays every game where he's like, I'm going to fuck that guy up.

And he does it.

And it seems like it's impossible to stop it.

They got some injuries.

Are they going to be able to slow down Lamar at all?

Yeah, that's the thing. I'm trying to envision a situation where Lamar is completely stilted.
And there's been three games where he struggled. The Colts, which was in the rain at home early on in the season.
They hit a wall in the second half against Cleveland in a game this season. And then they have one more loss to the Steelers early on, which was just weird.
But for the last few months, Lamar's just rolling. So Spaggs, all respect to him and what he does.
This is asking a lot from Nick Bolton and Willie Gay and Drew Tranquil, the linebackers, to try to make a way to stop this run game. Because I think it's coming.
I think Lamar is going to be running a lot. Yeah, I think they're going to run a lot.
So another team is going to probably try to run a lot. Well, actually, both the Nin the niners and the lions are gonna run a lot the lions run i know that you you've talked to all the people in the building it's pretty incredible because you don't really see it in the nfl where it's like they zagged they went with dan campbell who was not i think chris long put it perfectly when we had him on the show on wednesday all these owners are bubble boys where it's like if they sit down with a football guy through and through it's like these two people in no other profession would have any conversation with each other but they go with Dan Campbell the rebuild happens it looked bleak for a while last year and now they're in the NFC championship game I mean is it just like Dan Campbell you can't say enough about what he's done for the culture of that team it goes even above Campbell so when they when they first were like, okay, we're firing Patricia.
We're going to start anew. We're going to look at this thing.
There was two big hires. One of them was Chris Spielman.
So Spielman, you think of Chris Spielman when we were kids. It was a bloody face, just hardcore Lions linebacker, and then obviously played for Buffalo in Cleveland.
He was working on Fox. He was like the third announcer on Fox.
And the ownership group. They had him as the preseason analyst.
They said, would you want to join in some capacity? Very nebulous job. But they're like, would you come back? And he left Fox, which is a pretty good job, pretty comfortable.
You're calling games 17 weeks out of the season, you're off the rest of it. And he joined Detroit and he kind of advised a little bit on the coaching search and they brought everybody in.
They had Sala in there. They had Arthur Smith.
They did the whole coaching search and Dan Campbell came in who Spielman had no relation to. And you look at, they hired this other guy, Mike Disner, who's was in Arizona.
They hired these guys. They don't have any connection to Campbell.
He was all about the right things. And it sounds a little cliche, a little corny when we talk about grit and what that city's about and it's a working class city,

but Campbell sold them.

We're going to build this thing from the ground up.

And then every single decision they've made since then has worked.

Aaron Glenn fits what they do.

This Ben Johnson is brilliant.

They found him from Miami where Dan Campbell worked with him.

And then the draft picks have all worked.

This year's draft class is incredible.

But beyond that, and I think Chris Long mentioned it on your podcast last week, they got three first round picks on the offensive line so they're they're really good really talented but like culturally it's the right place there are no divas in that building i think it worked because it was it was so closely tied with who dan campbell is as a person totally you can see like when any coach can come and say like we're going to change the identity of this team to fit the city and then the eyes are going to roll and be like okay yeah whatever i've heard this before i remember the uh when juergen klinsman was the coach of the u.s men's national team he's like we're going to play like america which is we fight overseas we're going to fight in your territory everyone's like well this isn't going to work but every every coach tries to do that or a lot of a lot of them do well think about it campbell shows up with him it's like it's real that's his story's his story. This is going to sound patronizing.
He shows up. It's not a great looking suit.
It's a blue button down. It's a striped tie.
He's not trying to win any awards or go to the Milan fashion show. So that starts it.
And everything he says, he's true to it. So he lives and breathes it from way up to the ownership group.
They live and breathe it. And again, they embrace the city and what they're about and every one of their stories,

whether it be Amon Ross, St. Brown, having 16 wide receivers taken before him, whether it be Gibbs, everyone rolling their eyes when they take a running back.

Whether it be Goff, who obviously was discarded and kind of told like, we're better off without

you.

I think they all fit that kind of mantra.

Yeah.

It's crazy.

We do this challenge with every guest.

Say something nice about Jerry Goff without qualifying it at all. Jared Goff's got edge this year.
Yeah, okay. That's good.
Say what you want. That's kind of a qualifier because this year.
This year. This year.
I know what you're going to say, but no. He's like, okay, everyone talks about Brock Purdy being the guy that anytime you pay a compliment to him, there's always a, but it's also in the system type thing.

Jared Goff is kind of that too this year where people, every nice thing that someone said about Jared Goff, they're like, they add on like when they do play action at the end of it or something.

Jared Goff, I think, is just playing good football this year.

He's just a good football player.

And they had one bad game on Thanksgiving and the story the next day was like, well, Hendon Hooker is being activated from injury. Maybe it's time we start considering it.
That's how short the leash is with fans with Jared Goff. The stat was crazy.
I think there's been a very limited group of quarterbacks who have played in the Super Bowl for two different teams. It might be like Brady, Warner, and a couple other guys.
Yeah, it was like five guys who played in the championship game with two different teams. It was Brady, Warner, Brett Favre, and Peyton Manning.
And then, I think there might be, yeah. And I think there might be like four of them, I guess, if you want to get rid of one of them who, who's been in the Superbowl, he's a game away.
So that's legit. But the edge thing is interesting because he's always been the nice guy taking the high road and, you know, this Northern California vibe and the Rams, he was on hard knocks like three different times.
Yeah. And at no point where we like, that's a cool, you know, that's a guy always like, nice guy.
All right, who else is on the team? Because that seems like he's just kind of steady Eddie. This year, the Amazon postgame show, I guess during the pregame, someone, I think Ryan Fitzpatrick said.
Yeah, it was Fitzpatrick. We busted him up for that.
You hit him, right? But for him to come back and I guess one of their PR guys whispered in his ear, before the game they called you a Matt Ryan. Like he like stopped the show.
I was like, wait, so you said I was a poor man's Matt Ryan. And then yesterday they were, they were asking, one of the locals was like, um, in his press thing, like, so, you know, you're not really household names, this team.
And he's like, stop it right there. I'm on Ross St.
Brown's the first team, all pro Penny Sewell's the first team all pro like stop. Yeah.
They're there. I mean, it really is to me what Jared has done this year and you can count last year as well he's never going to be the most vocal guy he's never going to be like a crazy you know press conferences and clips I think it's just his story fits in so perfectly with Detroit's story that he becomes such a great leader just a you could say quiet leader but it feels like that whole team just rides with him because he was discarded and it was like oh well he's a bridge quarterback for the lions then he's been playing so well it's like no wait he's really good yeah and the rubber's gonna hit the road this offseason so he's going into the final year of his contract next year and it's like detroit can talk how much they love jared and jared's our guy are you gonna pay him 45 million and and we'll see i think they should i think you should pay him more yeah and give some of us if he chooses to do that but i think they should he has the option he can't pay him enough money where he has money that he would want to give to his friends yeah all right so so the niners uh it feels like the niners have been building you know last year they were building to this moment the entire roster is just loaded with dudes uh what like in terms of i don't want to say legacy but like this is a very important game for kyle shanahan because i think he's one of the best coaches in the nfl but at some point you got to start winning some big big games and get to the super bowl and you know he's been to one but like how what's the vibe with the niners in terms of like window and and this year and it's all in, they got to win it? I think they felt good all season long.
Last week was really hairy at points, and then Purdy has an awesome drive to end it. It just takes him right down the field, and I think that not only bailed out all those Niners, but I think it was a nice sigh of relief, and I think this week they're going to come with a much different game plan.
Debo Samuel is huge, if he's not he's everything he is such an important piece to that but i'll say this that joan jennings 15 they call him third and joan he's been like he's awesome and he just always got one of those drop a little one yeah but like they call him and he's the dude that like wants to fight and practice he's the guy that that the defense is like, relax, we understand.

You're Rudy, great.

He's that guy, and I think you're going to see

him have a huge role in this game.

I was shocked watching Purdy on that last drive

because it's number 15, Juwan Jen,

and then you get, he's hitting,

I didn't even know Chris Conley was on the team.

I know all these, Purdy had to rise above,

and Purdy was really, really good on that final drive.

Just talking to other coaches,

and I know that sounds like I'm just bailing it out here,

It's like,

Thank you. all these like that Purdy had to rise above and Purdy was really really good on that final drive I just talking to other coaches and I know that sounds like I'm just bailing it out here it's like what they do with McCaffrey is so unique and that if Kyle needs to it has a whole week to prepare for this thing you will see stuff that you have not seen all season and they will use McCaffrey they're just so freaking tough inside I know what about their defense their defense uh has a lot of dudes on.
They've been good. They've been a really good defense.
But I feel like they're a little bit susceptible to running the football. They are.
Because they play with the lead so often that you can tell Bosa, pin your ears back, quarterback's going to drop back, go sack him. You'd say that's Chase Young, too.
Yeah. But when they have to play from behind, it feels like it's a different game and they're not as stout against the run as you would like them to be.
That's good analysis. I's right great analysis thank you like aaron jones you don't have to answer i just i just want to get that was good it sounded really good too uh like aaron jones last week um they had a game plan they're like we're gonna go him outside we're gonna run aaron jones he ran he ate like he had a great game uh and at the end of the day that obviously love throws that interception but they were in striking distance i think detroit's gonna be able to move the ball on them as well.
They're very underrated on the back end. I think Lenore's very good.
Traverius Ward's very good. And then those three linebackers that they have, they're among the best in the league.
So between Greenlaw and Warner, they have dudes behind just that defensive line. How are you feeling about Ambry Thomas? Not a great game from Ambry last week.
It also hurts that he's a name that you can remember. Yeah, before the snap, you could see Love was like, Ambrey? Yeah.
Eyes get big? Yeah. If he was like Ben Thomas or like Steve Thomas, you'd be like, wait, oh yeah, that guy.
Ambrey, though. You're like, yeah.
Ambrey's a concern for him. I'm circling him.
Number 20. Yeah, no.
Look, it was not a good day for him yesterday, and you'd like to think that he can redeem himself. They used to forever have like Joukowsky Tart and Jimmy Ward.
And those are the guys in the middle. They quietly transitioned off of those guys.
They've got all these young guys now. So they're going to have to step up.
All right. So you're so plugged in.
Allow me 60 seconds to ask you a Bears question. Is it Caleb Williams? And I saw Mel Kuyper said that the Bears could get a first round pick for Justin Fields.
I don't believe that. So I would like you to tell me that actually is true and I'm dumb.
I think it could be either a first round pick or a second round pick. But if you're talking about first round pick for Justin Fields, talking about a team that needs a quarterback, like what team is giving up a top 10 or top 15 pick? That's the eighth pick.
Are they giving up the eighth overall pick? I don't know. That seems like a pretty steep price for a quarterback who's going to have to be.
a huge contract. I don't know.
That seems like a great deal. Seems like a great deal.
But the contract is real, too. So you're going to have to extend them.
You're not bringing them in for a one-year deal. So it's not going to be a first-round pick.
Mel Cotter was just getting me hyped up. Is it going to be Caleb Williams, though? The fact that they interviewed Kingsbury was interesting.
So I thought immediately, like, oh, they're going to want to bring him in. But they might have just been asking about Caleb a little bit yeah because they end up going with shane waldron i have i have no um financially we talked about it for six months it makes a lot of sense to just drop caleb and say let's start and reset it but they've not made any indications that that's the case yet this is what we also need this yeah the draft goes through this podcast totally got the one two and three if they told us what they were doing in January, it would screw us for the next three months.
Yeah, smoke screens everywhere right now. I saw Mel Kuyper said that Jaden Daniels was going to go number two.
My theory on that is that Kuyper likes to update his mock drafts. So he wants to have some room to move a guy.
So in like two weeks, he'll be like, you know what? Now I'm feeling more Drake May. Now that Ben Johnson, the head coach, they get an entire UNC quarterback room.
Ben Johnson. Breakingke may sam kiper mock draft 2.2.0 that's how we go we all lose our brain yeah but if you were it seems to me like jayden daniels is a more intriguing prospect yeah right because we saw his explosive play just seeing kyle you watch who would you rather have between the two right now i don't i don't watch enough drake may i've only seen like three games of his and he looks good.
But when I watch Jaden Daniels, I'm like, holy shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's kind of like Lamar when he was in college. Totally.
He has that factor where you watch it and you see things that you've never seen a quarterback do before. But I'm also dumb and I want to chase that high.
Of course. But maybe just having a good quarterback like Drake May is a better idea.
I don't know. That a great analysis also it's perfect because you're right it's you know drake may there is a there's a prototype all right that's him he's a great quarterback everyone likes it i don't say like justin herbert's the ceiling for him like that's what they say like just big statuesque and throw the ball great kid leader the whole thing jaden daniels though is a complete wild card in that this guy could be a sensation yeah you know and could be that guy and in the heisman season he was that uh early on in this thing this is before he won the heisman i had a gm of another team call me and be like why is everyone saying it's may versus wilson it's actually may wilson and daniels like he's that good too and the fourth name in which i think is not getting any buzz right now but will climb i think jj mccarthy is going is going to get a lot of buzz.
And it's like, here's your Mac Jones type of like, this guy wins games, he's a leader. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
In the draft process, that was the Mac Jones thing in a loaded draft class. It was like, yeah, but if you draft Mac Jones, you're getting a winner, you're getting a guy that's a leader.
Now, whether or not that worked out. I don't know.
He is really good at handing the ball off. I get it.
I get it. A crisp, clean pocket handoff from J.J.
I think J.J. McCarthy could be a good pro.
I just don't, you would not put him in that conversation. It would be crazy to do a top 10 pick on him.
The big conspiracy. Because it's a big question.
The big conspiracy or the big outside the box thing is, you know, Harbaugh just took the Chargers job. Yeah.
Everyone loves it. Him and Herbert's going to be great.
Then he ships off Herbert and he drafts J.J. McCarthy with that sixth pick.
Best quarterback in Michigan history. That's what he said.
Pretty good quarterback. He could trade Herbert to the Bears for the first pick.
Give the Bears the sixth pick. Yeah, that works.
He'll take that, right? He'll take J.J. McCarthy one.
What about the Patriots? Hank's Patriots. He doesn't understand how the draft works.
He doesn't understand trades and all that stuff. But he is picking third right now.
He thought that he could trade up to the first pick, but also keep the third pick. Yeah.
That's tough. But go on, Hank.
He could. Hypothetically could.
I mean, the Texans didn't. The Patriots don't have two first rounders.
The Texans did trade up to get the two and the three last year. Yeah.
Anything's possible. And we don't have a GM yet.
So we yet so we have no idea yeah true what would you say they need the most if they're draft quarterback yeah yeah but if it was belichick who knows you end up taking a corner or a guard and you say okay well he knows better than we do but now i think you go quarterback you trade back all your picks and draft like five offensive linemen in the fifth round north dakota state yeah well we showed. It's going to be interesting because there's a good high percentage chance that the three of us all have three new quarterbacks going next year.
Yeah. The top three picks.
And all of our history is going to be intertwined. It will destroy the podcast because two of us will have shitty quarterbacks.
What was the analogy? You cast me like a Russian roulette? It's a Mexican standoff. Yeah.
Because we're just going to be spending the next five years being like, no, my guy's good. No, you should have taken that guy.
It might actually be bad for the podcast for the future of it. Yeah, because if one of them ends up being like Super Bowl worthy and the other two suck, there will be heavy resentment.
Yeah. I'll just say it right now.
Well, if yours is really good, if the Bears win the Super Bowl. Then it's a little different because you took one.
Yeah, you guys didn't have a choice. But the Bears have never passed over a great quarterback to take a back.
All right, stop. Not in recent history.
If PFT takes, if it goes Cale Williams, Jaden Daniels, then Hank gets Drake May, and Drake May turns out to be the best of the three. Hank's fired.
I'll hate him for life. Hank's fired.
Hank hasn't had any great years of football as an adult. Hank deserves this, actually.
He's Detroit personified. It's been tough from the last year and a half.
What do you got, Jay? You got breaking news? Who we got? Get in here. I don't have my phone number.
Read it. I'm surprised the Panthers are closing in on a deal to hire Bucs OC Dave Canales as their new head coach.
Let me give you some Canales if you can. Okay, yeah.
Give us some Canales. All right.
How about some? He's already on the hot seat. How about some David Tepp? Canales.
Some Canales. Okay, some Canales.
Let's trademark that. Was in Seattle for years.
Passed over a bunch of times for that OC job. Was like the quarterback coach, whatever.
And then he was Geno Smith's quarterback coach that year. But he did spend a ton of time with Dan Morgan in Seattle.
Dan Morgan was in the front office. He was the quarterback coach.
Goes to Tampa this year. And everyone's like, all right, throwaway season, whatever.
Juice, like ton of juice. You know, one of those guys, I think a lot of scripture in his life.
Also, a lot of like pep talks for the guys in the locker room. He is beloved in Tampa.
And Baker, like sword, obviously. This was like an outside the box interview.
I heard he crushed it in Carolina and it was great. And I love this.
Has anyone not crushed an anyone not crushed an interview fair point i mean you hear you don't hear often like this but for them to bring in a second interview but uh canalis was not the lead dog in that in that room like going into this thing of course ben johnson and you would think bobby slowick and all these other guys but all along like they wanted to go young offensive to get bryce young like that guy and whatales did with Mayfield was tremendous. He played football at Azusa Pacific.
Let's go. Let's go.
Christian McCoy went there. Yes, he did.
So he's being brought in to save Bryce Young. Yes.
And he will be judged specifically on how Bryce Young does as a quarterback. Yes.
He has a long relationship with Tony Dungy as well. Oh, okay.
The two of them are very tight. I've been told that that's that there's a scripture there's your scripture um and but just like a ray of light in in that building in tampa this year where everyone thought they were gonna suck and they were gonna be he was like no guys we're good like we have this and people that he was really well liked in the building and i think that's a good fit all right i'm gonna give it a c plus what happens with baker next year i think he's back i think he was payday.
They end up breaking the bank for him. They're like, you've proven enough this year? I think so.
I hope that happens. I feel like they ran him out of town.
Dude, Baker was great last week. Yeah, he was.
He was. Yeah, he's been good this season.
And I don't know if there's a team that fits Baker as much as the Tampa Bay Buccaneers do. It's fun.
Yeah. Seems like a good spot.
Good place, good city. All right, I got a couple wrapping up.
I got a couple non-football questions. First is your show, Good Morning Football.
What's the worst part about doing it? The worst part consistently is that 4.30 That's crazy. I just wanted you to say 4.30.
It does not ever get fun. Yeah, what time do you go to bed? It's really hard because there's games on Thursday, Sunday, Monday.
So a lot of times what I'll do for those late games during the season, I'll watch the first half, go to sleep, and it's like the old Seinfeld episode. Like, don't tell me what happened.
I'll wake up first thing. No one else is awake in the world.
I don't check Twitter and the NFL on their website. NFL Plus has the condensed game, and I'll watch the second half, and then I'll read all the articles from 4.30 to 5.
Are you able to go to the NFL website without seeing the score out of the corner of your eye? Do you know where they put the scores? I purposely go out of my way. I've got a whole process.
I like to have fresh analysis. It's also fun to wake up to.
But most nights, when it's not a game night, it's like I put my son to bed at 8, and I'm in bed by 9. It's got to feel good, though, the reverse, being done with your day at 10 a.m.
Done, bro. Yeah.
Done.m yeah that's incredible what about on weekends has the early wake up affected your weekends now where you get up at like five so this is sound sick but i work for fox on the weekends that's in la so i take the first flight out on saturday morning yeah that is sick i'm up at five any every morning anyway on saturday and then you're sick fuck and then on sunday it's 4 30 wake up pacific time because we do the pregame show you're sick fuck throughout the season sick fuck yes colon sick fuck um but it's 4 30 a.m wake up throughout the football season so you can imagine what the hell honestly though you and i talk offline and i'm not trying to like i watch you i'm like all right you're looking good these days you put on the weight you're looking good for me it's like i will put on 20 pounds no matter what during the football season i tell myself mentally like this is the year that it's not going to happen you just can't avoid it when you're flying it's bad and you're watching football at those hours well that was the other question i had for you not football related so the thing i love about you peter is like you're then don't take this wrong way a little nerdy but you you embrace it which i love like i think that that's self-aware yeah it makes it it makes it fun like if you get excited about football that's a fun thing i get excited listening to someone like you who's excited about football um and you know you're a good looking guy you're an average guy you're wearing good looking average you're an average guy we're all average guys we're not like showstoppers right we're not shows we're not kyle brands. uh the aloe sneakers though what do you think that's a hot guy brand you think I don't think that they I would be allowed in an aloe if you've seen an aloe it's like it's quiet luxury yeah it's like like Lululemon on steroids all the people who go in there are the hottest people in the world what are you trying to do can I tell you come back to us dude we're just regular guys for you okay well I always find it cheesy when the white guys wearing like the cool jordans and i cringe so hard yeah aloe as a brand i can't i mean i'm not an ambassador for aloe aloe is like if you're not if you're athleisure but like high-end athleisure do they let you in so here's the deal they had sneakers i was in la and i go to the store and i have never seen the aloe sneakers.
So I'm like, I'm going to get it before it becomes a thing.

So I've never seen anyone else wear these as sneakers.

I can't wear like, I'm not wearing the juicy couture pants that they sell.

Right.

I've got these sneakers.

I just want to make sure that like you got to.

No, trust me.

I'm man of the people.

Okay.

All right.

Because I see Aloe and I'm just like, that's hot guy people.

Like the hottest women, the hottest men.

They go to Aloe.

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And they're like, this is how I'm hot. Totally.
That's a hot guy jacket and a hot guy shirt, too. Yeah, are you trying to be a hot guy? What the fuck is going on here? Hot guy, hot guy.
Calligraphy on the shirt? Yeah, I don't know, guys. You're trying to be a hot guy.
I'm trying to be a hot guy. You got to remember your sick fuck.
Let me tell you about the 1971 AFC Championship Games at Old Memorial Stadium in Baltimore. Can I change the topic? Give us your analysis for the games.
Tell us what the score is going to be for each game. Okay.
Catch you back to the numbers. I actually think Chiefs-Ravens is a low-scoring game.
It's not. I think it's in the 20s.
I think it comes down to the end. Total? No, no.
I think it's like 23-20. I think it's tense as shit.
I think it's an amazing scene in Baltimore. I picked the Chiefs before the season.
I am going to continue to roll with the Chiefs. I think the Chiefs win, and we're getting one more week of Mahomes and Taylor Swift and the whole thing.
The other game, I think San Francisco rolls. Oh, rolls.
All right. What about the point total for San Francisco-Detroit? Yeah, that one I think is more points.
I'm toying with taking the over in that game. Yes.
As an NFL employee, I do not engage in such specific talk of numbers and whatnot, but I will say I would expect... We can predict the score of the game, right? We do on the show.
You're right. So I'm going to say this.
It's smart of you that you keep yourself out of it because the NFL does not do any advertisement with gambling companies. I'm going to say it's more like 3421 than it is like, okay, that would be the over.

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My last question. What is something that's going to happen between now and the draft that's going to shock us? Is it a job, a hire, a quarterback getting traded? Could there be a quarterback getting traded? This is good questions.
I think one of these star wide receivers will be traded. Oh, I like that.
And I'm saying that like that. But like when you look across the league.
A digs. A digs.
And A.J. Brown might not be traded.
But like those type of players that are like, these are guys that are for years, we've built around the wide receiver. Now it seems like we're building around the tight ends a little bit more in the running games.
I think there might be another big wide receiver trade. I'm trying to go through, like, I don't know if Akeenan Allen is a big name, but like, there's going to be a big name.
Cooper Cup now is the number two to Pukunakua as he traded. Actually, McVay loves him, though.
That's probably not happening. Stafford loves him.
But like, I think we get one of those big veteran trades. Last year's offseason was crazy with Aaron Rodgers and Lamar Jackson going through his contract stuff.
I don't know if we can top it as far as hysteria goes, but I will say this. With Chicago, with the Patriots, with Washington, and with the Giants at the top of the draft, like you have four mega fan bases, like monster fan bases.
I think draft season this year is going to be awesome with great quarterbacks and wide receivers. Oh, I did have one more question that you just brought up fan bases.
What fan base gives you the most shit? Cause I know I'm like, we, we, we deal with it. If you talk about everyone in the league, there's one fan base that always feels like they've been slighted or we don't talk about them enough.
What's the one that is always up? It's actually, it's, it's, it's, I've tried to like so many times address them and be like, guys, I'm not, I don't dislike, like I don't, Iphins to make the playoffs this year. Oh, yeah, Dolphins fans.
There's a sensitivity around Tua. I never include Tua in my top list.
And even saying the name Tua starts off. But at the end of the season, they lose the way they lost in Kansas City where it was barely a fight.
And you're like, well, they were injured and all this stuff. And I'm like, for all the shit I took all year about not having the Dolphins in the playoffs, they lost in the first round as a 60.
I don't know what to say. Like I got it wrong.
Great. They made the playoffs, but dolphins fans.
Um, it's love hate because I, I do appreciate Mike McDaniel and I do give them a lot of love at times, but I didn't put them in the playoffs this year. And I heard about it all season.
Do you ever split it up with the guy with, with everyone on the show? Like, all right, you're going to do the, no, we should. Yeah, you should.
Last week, Kyle did this like real piss and vinegar thing the Buffalo Bills, and I did one for the Kansas City Chiefs, and that felt like it balanced, but we're pretty authentic in that we don't just like, all right, this is good for the show. Why don't you do Cowboys, and I'll do how it goes.
Right now, it's on site in Kansas City for Hank. They don't like Hank.
Yeah, which it was for us. We were actually banned from the city of Kansas City for a little bit.
Why? Honestly, I don't know. We didn't respect Patrick Mahomes enough.
Everything that we said on the show, we always preface with, Patrick Mahomes is the greatest quarterback in the NFL, one of the two greatest quarterbacks of all time. And then we talk about the Chiefs.
It's also a weird dynamic where it's like, we are very effusive with our praise for Patrick Mahomes because he is the best quarterback. But I get it.
It's football fandom. Nothing makes sense if you're a diehard fan.
They don't like that we like josh allen yeah yeah that's really what it comes down to oh and we glaze yeah that's the term always why there was glaze we're glazing we're on that dick all the time we've been well no it wouldn't be we were like um they're right off our dick if we're glazing them right no aren't we sucking their dick oh god are we getting glazed by are we bills glazers no we're bills glazers so we're are we sucking their dick no but that wouldn't be oh are you talking about the glazers that peter's like what the fuck i like no this is what's the homer simpson mean just like you should write about the fundamental definition of glaze no but this is no it just let's go back to when you guys talking about taking to twitter i just it just occurred to me on, Peter. We're about to find something.
Maybe the glaze is saliva from our mouth that's a remnant that remains on the Bill's dick. Got it.
That's the glazing? It could be. So we are technically sucking their dick, but it's the after effects of it that's the glaze.
We have sucked their dick. Is that right, Hank? No, I think PFT's initial point is correct.
That glazing is used incorrectly almost all the time. Okay.
So what is the correct term? Are we sucking their dick? No, we're getting glazed. You're knee-padding.
That's sucking their dick. Yeah.
Or playing volleyball. Yeah.
Peter, so Russell Wilson. Peter, you still here? We lost you? Literally, my brain is on that elevator already.
I'm going to bring you back. I'm going to bring you back.
Russell Wilson. Is he going to be at Denver Bronco next year? Oh, hold on.
And if not, is he going to be a starter? Oh. Who's called? You can pick it up.
Is it Source? Sean McVay. Hilarious.
Sean Payton. Oh.
No way. Can you ask him? No.
Calm back. He's been on the show.
He'll probably say. He likes you guys peter is the number one sean glazer i am sean mcveigh sean payton mcdermott i like the name sean mcdermott i'm in uh i i don't know i look i think because i talked to sean after that all went down and his whole thing was like we didn't i didn't say he's off the team he's it's not like derrick carr where it's like pack your bags don't like the number two those next two games.
I went with Stidham, and I think Russell Wilson obviously took the high road, and people thought what Peyton did was outrageous. And the things that were said about him, I thought, were a little over the top over a player decision.
In the media, you'd think he did something horrible to a bench a quarterback. I would think they have to look at other directions, but there also has to be a suitor and someone who wants to take on Russell's contract.
So I haven't, I mean, I don't, I know Sean likes Russell Wilson and likes him as a guy. And I think that they were just trying to get a kickstart to the season at the end.
That sounds like it's bullshit. It's not their offense was, it was, you know, was struggling at the end and they wanted to go to Stidham.
So I think they're going to have their conversations, but we'll see. Yeah.
All right. Well, Peter, thank you so much.
Hopefully the glazing interlude there doesn't keep you off of our show um you probably in his head he was like simmons never does this what the fuck listen you weren't part of it it was our conversation yeah we kept i hope i didn't offend any uh white white guys in their 30s and 40s who bought a cool pair of jordans and was no because i i I see a lot of that. And also now, a lot of women do that as well.

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Don't buy shoes

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if you want.

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go for it.

Yes.

All right.

Well, Peter,

thank you so much.

You're the best.

You can watch them

on Good Morning Football.

We'll maybe see you in Vegas.

I want to come to Chicago.

No, forget Vegas.

I want to come to Chicago one time.

Come. Come ball out.
I want to hang with Mincy. Yeah, come watch some games with us.
Hang with Mincy. He'll probably get you in trouble.
Well, Mincy's got better sources than you do. He does.
How does he fall for that? He's scooping everyone. How does he fall for that? He's Mincy.
And who's the guy from this office who was doing it? It was a couple of our guys. He just thought, like, let's just screw with him.
And also, the best part this was all uh mincy getting duped when lane kiffin uh was potentially going to alabama and he said he he posted a text change where he's like i'm not gonna reveal the source and then he said a source at the seattle times i mean there's like two two people writing there in the sports section what are we talking about mincy yeah i love listening to you guys. Congrats on all the success in Chicago, and it's cool to watch from afar.
I'm jealous. It seems like you guys have a blast, and it feels like it's only getting bigger and bigger.
Schrager is like a real, like, Barca. I just watch it from afar.
He texted me about Frank and Mincy. It's like he loves the lap pack.
When Jerry got the hole-in-one, like, I think like a tear, like one lone tear, like, came out. Yeah.
Watched in real time. I tweeted about it in real time during the heat of NFL coaching stuff.
Jerry said it. He's like, Peter Schrager, Tom Brady, everyone was tweeting.
Everyone. All the guys.
All right. Well, thank you so much, Peter.
Awesome, guys. Thank you.
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Henry. Hank.
Hank. Hank.
Hank. I'm sad that this is the second to last weekend of football.
That's not my Fire Fest, but it's just dawning on me. Just got to embrace it.
Sunday's going to be great. Then you got the combine.
March Madness. College basketball has been crazy.

A lot of good

teams lose. Are there any good teams in college basketball

this year? Yes. UConn's

good. Houston's good.
North Carolina's

good. Purdue's good.

I like Houston.

I like Tennessee. Those are my two

guys this year. Okay.

Hank, that was college basketball preview.

We are

a week and a half out

I'm going turn my camera on and start to practice you know, reading the material and, you know, putting the show together, getting things in order, getting the videos and pictures and stuff I need. And I realized while I was, you know, reading off the things that I wrote that I thought were funny and realizing how hard it is to, you know, present or whatever, like speak publicly alone, how bad it's going to be.
And my anxiety has been at an all time high. I've probably lost like every night I get in bed early before midnight and I'm up to like 3 a.m.
Just brain. Just in fear.
It's going to be a relief. It's going to be a relief when you're done.
You know what, Hank? The good thing is no matter what it's only 60 minutes and it's probably it's gonna be like the worst 60 minutes of my life but yeah when it's over no matter what when it's over it will be over i'll give you a compliment um i've been watching your progress on guitar hank has hank has learned guitar pretty well for a true beginner. Yeah.

You sound good.

Yeah.

I mean, I gave some way my joke last time, but this will probably be part of it, too,

is I've spent probably like 30 hours learning guitar for like three minutes of my stand-up set.

Yeah.

When I could have spent that doing something else.

But I have enjoyed it.

You sound good.

The guitar is one of the only things that helps me relax. You're going to be great, sweetie.
You're going to kill it. I'm excited.
Yeah. No, but I do.
I have enjoyed it. You sound good.
The guitar is one of the only things that helps me relax.

You're going to be great, sweetie.

You're going to kill it.

I'm excited.

Yeah, no, I'm not.

It is what it is.

It just is what it is.

It is what it is.

Firefresh of the week.

Lost a lot of sleep this week.

Oh, you're also... Like last night, I was up till four.

You're performing on Wednesday night.

Tuesday night.

Oh, Tuesday night next week.

No, Wednesday night.

Wednesday night.

Next week, Wednesday night. Oh, Chicago night next week.
No, Wednesday night. Wednesday night.
Next week, Wednesday night.

Oh, Chicago.

Yeah.

That's only like 10 minutes.

That's.

Yeah, but it'll be good.

It'll be good to get you up on stage.

Yeah.

You got this, Hank.

This is going to be great.

The AWLs are excited.

But there's nothing.

Yeah, that part is like, just don't watch.

Don't buy it.

No one watch.

No one buy it. Don't attend.
Don't come. Don't do it.
I'm going to come. I'm going to come so hard.
You know what? I'm going to come too. Okay.
All right, Jay. Nice.
All right, PFT. You can see the thousand-mile yard stare with Hank right now.
It's becoming very real for Hank. He's saying it, and he's feeling it as you watch this.
I'm so glad that we didn't have to do this.

Yeah.

So glad.

Yeah.

Like that.

I mean, you guys would have done better at it, but I also would be curious to see how

you would have tackled it.

But yeah, last night we were at dinner and Roan started talking about it.

And then like, he was like, what are you going to do?

We were walking through it.

He was just, you know, being nice, being conversational.

And it just, it got bad.

Hank's already started to blame us for this, by the way.

I'm not blaming anyone. No, you did last night.
Last night at night at dinner hank was like these these assholes are making me do this people were like why are you doing this uh performance thank you because because of those two right there no we all we were in the same deal right and we would have had to do we should have picked better games yeah i'm not blaming you guys yeah okay you're not mad at us your Fyre Fest. My Fyre Fest of the week is, so it is our birthdays next week.
This is the last week that we have as 38-year-olds before we turn 39. Hank has been saying that we're 40 for the last month.
That's a cask. No, you have.
I had one conversation where I knew you guys were getting up there in the 30s, and I was like, you guys are turning 40? Yeah. But I...
Hank's telling people that we're 40. I did it in a questioning way because I wasn't sure.
And you guys were like, I can't believe you just said that. No, we're almost 39.
It's a realization that's slowly creeping over us. But for my birthday on Saturday, I've actually reserved time for myself in an F-18 flight simulator.
Hell yes. And a Boeing flight simulator.
So I'm going to see if I can actually land a plane and fly an F-18. My FireFest, that sounds awesome.
My FireFest about the whole thing is the company that I'm going to be flying in their simulator, they also sell simulators. And I am like 90% sure that on Saturday, I'm going to spend $10,000 on an F-18 simulator.

Why don't we get one for the office?

Good question, Big Cat.

I wanted that and you said no.

When?

When we were talking about what to put in the office.

I don't remember that conversation, but we could do it.

I talked about an F-18 simulator.

I don't remember saying no to that.

We could do it.

I heard a lot of no's regarding the F-18 simulator.

We could do it.

Well, if it was like building an entire...

Yeah, I don't think that... Yeah, no, it 100% happened.
Yes. I was the one thing I wanted in the office.
Yeah. Yeah, we had that conversation.
It was no. Yeah.
But I'm saying it's a yes now. Where? Oh, that's the problem.
How big is it? It's not the size of an actual F-18. Yeah, but I'm saying yes, depending on, like, yes.
If you can put it in your studio, you can have it. You have a whole studio.
I've got, well, there's other places in the office. We can find it.
Where? Yes. No.
No? I'm saying no. No, I heard yes, and quite frankly, what are you going to do if I just show up with an F-18 simulator? I think we'll just put it somewhere.
Yeah, you'll just put it somewhere in your studio. Where you want to put it.
Yeah, I'll put it anywhere. We'll bring it into the back door.
But yeah, the Fire Fest, I'm probably going to spend 10 grand on an F-18 simulator this weekend. I do own a house.
That's accurate. I think you should buy it.
And we'll put it somewhere. I would probably get more flight time in the office.
Yeah, we'll find somewhere. We can find somewhere.
Yeah, so I'm pretty excited about that. We can find somewhere.
At a Macrodosing studio. No, we'll find somewhere.
There's a giant question mark desk in there. We'll find somewhere.
There's no room in Macrodosing studio. PFT, you know what? Just buy it, and then we'll figure it out.
Green screen room. We'll figure it out later.
We'll figure it out later.

Yeah.

Okay.

My game plan is going to be purchase it, have it dropped off at the office.

I'm now aligned with you.

Now it's someone else.

It's us versus Hank.

We can win this battle.

Now it's someone else's problem to deal with.

But yeah, it is going to be fun, and I'm going to be able to fly a plane and achieve all my dreams because I'm afraid of heights, but I love flying planes.

You were flying a plane on the plane yesterday.

I was. Yeah, I was doing a a plane on the plane yesterday.
I was.

Yeah, I was doing a flight simulator on the plane yesterday.

Yeah, it was wild.

So, yeah, that's my that's my fire fest.

Jake, can you bring Peter Schrager's jacket out to the lobby?

He forgot it.

Oh, my other fire fest is I just realized right now I left my Apple

watch in the shower at the hotel.

Oh, you got to go back and get it.

Go back.

Yeah, you got to go back and get it.

All right. My fire fest.
I got to One is I didn't realize this was a thing, but I'm pretty sure Max wants us dead. Yeah.
So we were flying from Chicago, New York yesterday, and this is totally independent because I mentioned it to Hank and he mentioned it. So what did you yesterday we were we had there's like a couple of us trying to set up a tetherball pole uh in the gym and max kind of like not creepily but just sauntered over kind of like uh hovered over a little bit like he didn't walk with purpose he just kind of like hovered over and in my head i was like what is max doing is he going to help us? He didn't.
He just kind of walked over, walked past me, and was like, hope you have a safe trip, Hank. Safe travels.
And then walked away. Jake didn't take his jacket.
What is he doing? Whose jacket did he take? I don't know. Maybe that's Jake's jacket.
Oh, okay. All right.
All right. But he just kind of walked past the group and was like, safe travels, Hank.
Hope you have a good trip. And then kept walking, and I was in my head in my head like that was weird it was weird and then when I was walking out of the door Max said to me he said I hope you have a really safe flight really safe so he wants us dead I explained to him that I was like it's me PFT and Hank on a plane together if we die your life is over so wait when when he said to Hank was he it sounds like it was kind of a normal way to say like safe travels.
And then Hank, you said like, what does that mean? And then he got that idea and then rolled it over to you and really leaned into it. I don't think I, I didn't say that to him.
Yeah. It was in my head.
I was like, that was, he wants us dead. And I, I, I tried to express to him that, of all the people in the world that are rooting for us to not die.

What?

No, no.

No, leave it for him.

Leave it for him in the lobby.

Yeah.

Of all the people who don't who need us alive, Max is at the top of the list.

Like, I have life insurance.

My kids will be OK.

Like, Max will not be OK.

He's got nothing. But he wants us dead.
What about what about memes? Memes. He's a rascal.
He'll to quote Peter. He memes a rascal.
He would. I would.
I would bet memes would find something pretty quickly. He would land on.
He's got rascal. You know, tendency.
We have a lot of got a million on tick tock. Yeah.
We figure it out. We got it.
We got a lot of podcasts at parcel sports that needs somebody who's a full-time employee to just roast them. So memes would be able to find, find a spot.
I'm sure. Yeah.
Max, I don't know what his deal is. I don't know what, I don't know why Max is, it almost felt like he was like a, it's like a weird, almost.
He like, he was upset. he didn't come type thing and like passive aggressive.

Yeah, well, we're going to face him and do the lottery ball in a second,

so we'll find out.

But my other fire fest, and I want to apologize to Bills fans,

I feel like enough time has passed.

If you were watching us on the stream on Sunday,

you noticed I was wearing a hat for the majority of the game.

In the last five minutes, I took off my hat.

Shout out to 47 brand. They re-released a bunch of super bowl hats uh the hat i took off and was wearing all day is this hat and it is the bills giant super bowl wide right so i was wearing this hat for the majority of the game and then the bills lost with a wide right i feel awful about it this also just shows you that like jinxes are real vibes are real i'm sorry it's big of you to apologize for uh jinxing the buffalo bills yeah um i know that you know as somebody that's in sports media if you ever did something that would jinx the buffalo bills andills and outwardly ruin their season, you were the type of person to say that you're sorry for it.
Yes. Which is very big.
I don't think everybody would be like that. Not everyone would do that.
But I am sorry. It just I grabbed.
Like I said, I bought a bunch of them. I just grabbed this one.
And then it happened. And I was like, you could see in the stream, I took my hat off because I was feeling where it was going, and to be wearing the wide-right hat while a wide-right happens, bad vibes.
So apologies. Apologies.
I'll burn this hat for everyone. Although 47 brand makes the best hat.
There's also a good... I feel like most Bills fans opted out of sports podcasts on Monday.
Yeah. I would.
I certainly would if I was a Bills fan. I'd probably probably not even be back but we're probably getting a big percentage of them back for this week's game and now and now you just yeah volunteer that yeah all right my bad guys my bad hand up uh all right jake finishes off yeah so a few weeks ago you guys requested a trophy case for the studio yes eventually it got there and i tried setting it up by myself, and it was impossible.

I was just staring at it for an hour.

The instruction manual had no words.

Yeah.

It's a glass trophy case.

You did a great job, Jake.

We now have a Lombardi.

Fantasy football Lombardi.

Oh, we're going to need a real Lombardi.

All right.

It's going to be expensive.

Yeah, that's fine.

We're buying a flight simulator, so yeah, we can afford it.

We're going to get an AVN award. Yeah.
We have some of them. Yeah, but it took like three hours.
Shout out Ryan in Chicago for helping me put it together, but it was- You get to know your strengths. I'm not a building guy.
I really wanted to order a TaskRabbit and just let it happen. Yeah, you had Ryan to it.
But I had Ryan. But you did a good job.
The trophy case rocks. So let me know what else you guys want.
I'll order the troph trophy. Okay.
I love that. All right.
I'm going to call Max right now. We'll do the lottery balls.
By the way, we got some big interviews coming up. Just so everyone get excited.
Super Bowl week is going to be great. Big interviews coming up.
Big, big interviews coming up. Ones that the...
So big. They're going to be very happy.
almost too big almost i said almost too big they're actually just the right size hey max real quick before you do the lottery ball why the fuck do you want us dead what why do you want us dead you were hoping our plane would crash that's actually the exact opposite of what i was saying okay and also hank Gaslight Central trying to say that I say that he doesn't do anything. I've never once insinuated that.
Yeah, I might have been towards memes. All right, that's more towards memes.
But when you tell someone you hope they have a really safe flight, that is 100% being sarcastic. That is not true.
Yeah. I was hoping that you were safe and you ended up being safe though really is when you say like have a safe flight that's totally normal really changes the entire tone of that sentence well i mean you could have like a there could be turbulence yeah you want to he wants to stand all right i want no turbulence i wanted it to be completely safe and sound and you guys just have a lovely flight max why are you wearing a leonard skinner t-shirt right now stevie ray vaughn it's not true i'm wearing i'm wearing this okay all right you ready for numbers um all right this is uh this is honestly tough because i'm i can't look yeah you can't look 71 make sure max isn't looking 18 18 for jay ask the other one 48.
Wait, do I click select?

You might have to hit restart

so it drops the old ball

and then you

do start and then select is how you hit it.

Alright. And put it on

there. Yeah, yeah.
Alright, go.

He's not looking the ball is there it's seven is it seven two two oh two jeter two two okay all right thank you max yeah uh hopefully we have a really safe flight back yeah i hope you have a really safe flight. See, he wants us dead.
All right, goodbye. If we die, you're fucked.
If we die, I want to say on the record right now, if we die in a plane crash, part of my take podcast, do not hire Max for any job ever for the rest of his life. I'm one for one on success rate.
I want him blackballed. I want him blackballed from the world.
Alright, goodbye.

He wants us dead.

But really,

love you guys.

Love you guys. Take care.
Take me on me

Take me on me

I'll be gone

Take me on me

So needless to say

I'm upset and

I'll be stumbling away

Just learning and learning

My life is okay