Super Wild Card Weekend, Lions First Playoff Win In 32 Years, Cowboys Get Embarrassed And Hank Calls In From Dallas

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Speaker 1 Hank is going to join us from Dallas. You thought that we weren't going to let him go down to Dallas to see his Cowboys be absolutely brutalized in the playoffs? Of course we're going to let him go.

Speaker 1 So he's going to zoom in from Dallas.

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Speaker 1 Welcome to part of my take. Today is Monday, January 15th, and it's super wild card weekend.

Speaker 1 The playoffs. The playoffs.
Playoffs? Playing for Lombardi. Talk about playoffs.

Speaker 1 We start in Houston where Joe Biden Flacco got confused multiple times and couldn't remember which team to throw to as Father Time continues to be undefeated. Talking lying dogface pony soldiers here.

Speaker 1 The Texans put Cleveland in the funny papers as Dalton Charles Schultz made the Charlie Browns defense look like a joke. And speaking of comics, Stephen Nelson Munt said, ha-ha!

Speaker 1 As he ran back a touchdown for 84 yards, Texans fans are in la-la land as D'Amico Ryan Gosling has the upstart team driving to the second round. Texans 45, Browns 14.

Speaker 1 In the

Speaker 1 frozen tundra of Kansas City, it felt like it was 30 below, which was also to his quarterback rating. Speaking of, Tuna Tagoviola got the rest of the Dolphins caught up in the net to get slaughtered.

Speaker 1 Rashi Condoleezza Rice preemptively invaded Miami's secondary, scoring a touchdown and racking up 130 yards.

Speaker 1 And meanwhile, Mike Mike McDaniel Day-Lewis needs to put down the weed and pick up the meth in acting to teach his team how to play man football.

Speaker 3 Another collapse for the mudder-fudding Dolphins.

Speaker 1 Chiefs, 35. Dolphins, 7.
We have a special guest in the Big D. We're going to take it down to a reporter who's on the scene, Henry Lockwood.

Speaker 7 This is AI Hank Lockwood. I'm in the Big D where Jordan Love was in the air.

Speaker 7 As Romeo and Juliet Dobbs said, who cares about the age difference to all the haters who said the Green Bay Packers couldn't win because they had the youngest team in the league?

Speaker 7 Dak Jones needed an Alabama field sobriety test the way he was driving the ball down the field, hoping to lure future Dallas Cowboys legend Bill Belichick, who seems to prefer bad quarterbacks these days.

Speaker 7 People are looking at Dak and saying that motherfucker isn't real, just like the Lighthouse.

Speaker 7 There is a long list of Cowboys playoff collapses, enough to make an entire Mount Rushmore, and this one definitely belongs on it, even though I wouldn't pick it in Mount Rushmore season, because I am sadly very bad at choosing Mount Rushmores.

Speaker 7 Packers 48, Cowboys 32.

Speaker 1 We finished in Detroit where the Lions had the eye of the tiger. Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan Campbell.

Speaker 1 Puka Nakuanon tried to kidnap the governor of Michigan's heart, going for 181 yards and a touchdown.

Speaker 1 But it's hard beating Goff in the playoffs when going up against his former team, as the Detroit Lions, after 34 long years, have finally won a playoff game. Congratulations, Detroit.
The Lions, 31.

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Speaker 1 Hams, 23.

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Speaker 1 Okay, super wild card weekend, not in the books, two-thirds of the way done. We watched football all weekend.
It was pretty great. It was pretty great.

Speaker 3 Most of the games stunk until the end.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the last game was incredible. We're going to get to every game.
We're going to have Hank on Zoom, his report from Dallas coming up.

Speaker 1 Real Hank is going on. Real Hank.
We will talk also about the Bills Steelers being moved. And Max is

Speaker 1 waiting all weekend to give us his preview of Eagles Bucks. But let's get into it.
Let's talk ball. Because it was still, even the blowout games had storylines.
And we'll start chronological order.

Speaker 1 Texans 45, Browns 14.

Speaker 1 Joe Flacco has turned back into a pumpkin. It was sad to see.

Speaker 3 The clock struck midnight on Joe Flacco. It was a great story while it lasted.
It was very much Lynn Sanity. We had Lynn Sanity in a bottle.

Speaker 1 Yep, for Italians and older people.

Speaker 3 Yes, it was great. And then it kind of all fell apart.
Then Flacco kind of became Flacco.

Speaker 1 It was,

Speaker 1 yeah, like the Browns' defense was horrific, which

Speaker 1 we saw that maybe there was some leaks on the road this year, but C.J. Stroud, which we'll get to, like just carved them up.
But it was sad to see Joe Flacco.

Speaker 1 Like you thought, we talked ourselves into it on the show. Magical run, Joe Flacco, maybe going to Baltimore, winning a game there.
But yeah, the first pick six,

Speaker 1 I actually don't think that was a bad.

Speaker 1 You knew going into the game that Joe Flacco was going to throw an interception. You just hoped that you would be able to tackle the guy before he ran it back for a touchdown.

Speaker 1 The first pick six was like, that wasn't a terrible interception. It was just you had to tackle him and not give up six points.

Speaker 1 The second one was really, really bad, and it happened in back-to-back plays. And it was just like all the air came out of the Browns from that point on.

Speaker 3 It's such a funny feeling when somebody throws a pick six and you know that it's going to be a six even before they catch it. That was the second one.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 The second one was like, okay, that's just going to be a touchdown for the Texans. First one was a little bit longer.
Nobody was able to catch up to him. And it was fitting because he's in Houston.

Speaker 3 He turned kind of into Matt Schaub in the house of the Texans.

Speaker 1 And it was, though,

Speaker 1 like, as Joe Flacco did not do enough for them to win the game, but the Browns' defense was what just like fell apart, like, because they couldn't stop C.J. Shroud at all.

Speaker 1 I know two-pick sixes, but even if you take out the two-pick sixes, the Texans probably win easily because it felt like C.J. Schrad could do whatever he wanted.

Speaker 3 Yeah, the Browns' defense on the road has stunk pretty much all year, almost all year long.

Speaker 3 Their home defense has been like the best in the league by far.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 But then you add in the road thing, and it becomes like we probably should have seen it coming coming a little bit more than we did, but we got caught up in Flacco sanity.

Speaker 1 We got caught up in Flacco.

Speaker 1 Maybe a trend here, Jim Schwartz and Dan Quinn being like, I don't really want to move. Yeah.
So I'll just we'll just submit a really bad performance and then next year we'll try to win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 So was Jim Schwartz actually getting those same discussions around his name that Dan Quinn was?

Speaker 1 I feel like he wasn't because no, I don't think he was.

Speaker 3 He was bad enough as a head coach where people still remember like, say what you want about Dan Quinn, but he got to, he was up 28 to three in a Super Bowl at one point.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 and then yada, yada, yada.

Speaker 1 Jim Schwartz doesn't,

Speaker 1 he doesn't strike me as a guy who's like great at like the shaking hands and playing nicey nice.

Speaker 3 No, no, he doesn't, he doesn't kiss ass.

Speaker 1 He probably just tells you how, he's one of those guys,

Speaker 1 you know, everyone has that one friend who's like, I just tell it like it is. Like, no, dude, you might be a dick.

Speaker 3 Kind of makes you an asshole sometimes.

Speaker 1 My problem is I'm just brutally honest all the time. I just, sorry, sorry, I just can't hold my tongue and I have to tell the truth.

Speaker 3 Yeah, they always say like, you know me. I couldn't keep my mouth shut, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. Well, no, you can't.
You definitely keep my mouth shut.

Speaker 3 Yeah Schwartz probably not enough of a kiss ass. He's a he eats ass.
He doesn't kiss it and he's probably not going to be a head coach. I wouldn't imagine next year.

Speaker 3 I also feel like they're probably, how old is Jim Schwartz now?

Speaker 1 He's definitely not going to be in his late 50s.

Speaker 3 He's definitely not too old to be a head coach, but he's got a lot of football years on him.

Speaker 1 57.

Speaker 3 57. Okay.

Speaker 3 It would take a special type of franchise to be like, you know what, 57-year-old Jim Schwartz, let's give it a shot.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And who knows what's what's going to happen with Mike McCarthy in Dallas? Because we're recording this at 11 o'clock Central Time after the games are over. That domino might fall pretty quickly.

Speaker 3 And then, depending on what happens with the Eagles, those might be two big coaching openings that we didn't necessarily see coming, which would probably be way more attractive than some of the other ones that are out there.

Speaker 3 Yeah. So Schwartz might get one of the second-tier jobs.

Speaker 1 And as it goes for the Browns, you know, we had Zupi, who is a great video editor and producer here at Barstool, and then our friend Jeff D. Lowe were sitting front and center for the game.
And

Speaker 1 I could sense sadness, but I also think there was a feeling of like,

Speaker 1 how are we even here?

Speaker 3 They made the playoffs with their JV team this week.

Speaker 1 Right. Like, they were saying to each other at the end of the game, they're like, next time we watch Browns football, Nick Chubb will be playing.
Stuff like that.

Speaker 1 So, I mean, they did have the most injuries. And to get to the playoffs,

Speaker 1 whenever you get to the playoffs and you lose in that fashion, it sucks.

Speaker 1 But in the suck meter, I feel like the Browns were playing on some borrowed money, and it was like a very fun season that looked like it had ended like 17 different times.

Speaker 1 There was different points throughout the Browns season where it was like, that's a wrap. This guy got injured.
Our entire offensive line got injured. Deshaun Watson got injured.

Speaker 1 Oh, Miles Garrett had got banged up, and he's playing through something. Nick Chubbs out.
And they were still there.

Speaker 1 You'd wish for the Browns fans that they could have continued the ride. But I feel like the future is bright as long as you figure out a way to just have Deshaun Watson never play.
Yeah, have him

Speaker 3 for whatever reason, have it work out where he doesn't have to throw the football, and you can have somebody that steps in for a salary of like $600,000 a year every season take you to the playoffs.

Speaker 3 And they are going to get kind of the most additions in free agency this offseason. Yeah.
Just getting all their own players back.

Speaker 3 And with Miles Garrett, you can even say like, yeah, the defense stunk, but also Miles Garrett. has been injured for the last like month, month and a half.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 So he hasn't really done shit since Thanksgiving. Right.

Speaker 3 And he's hopefully going to be fully healthy ready to go next year and as long as they keep uh jeremiah owusu koromoa yep i say that right jake you nailed that you nailed it pretty much as long as

Speaker 3 pretty much how do i say jake

Speaker 8 i have

Speaker 1 oh oh so you don't know it up no you don't no i have it right here no i've been planning a tick tock pft did that off the dome i get every name pft did it off the dome and you said off off your dome that it was incorrect so yeah because it's koromo dome check he what do you say koromo said caramo no no i said you said

Speaker 1 Koromoa. Coromoa.
I'm going to give A plus. Thanks.
But

Speaker 3 as long as they wrap him up long term, that dude is awesome.

Speaker 1 He's awesome. The Browns also,

Speaker 1 very weird year because the pendulum swung as far as it could swing in terms of rooting for a quarterback in Deshaun Watson that you kind of always are like, ah, he's... a really bad guy

Speaker 1 to rooting for like the greatest story ever in Joe Flacco and the guy who everyone wants to root for. Yeah.
And now they like, I feel like there's a little bit, oh shit, we got to go.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Deshaun Watson's better than Joe Flacco right now. Maybe, maybe.

Speaker 1 But you also have to go back to rooting for Deshaun Watson after rooting for the nicest guy in the world in Joe Flacco.

Speaker 3 Well, fun fact, Joe Flacco has now thrown as many touchdown passes for the Browns as Deshaun Watson has.

Speaker 1 That is a fun fact. Isn't that a fun fact?

Speaker 3 And this was, you got the full Joe Flacco experience because the old debate on whether or not he's elite goes back to Joe having games and stretches that he puts it together like we saw, where he's just like, oh, fuck, this guy can throw the football a mile, and then he'll have a game like this, where he just pretty much quits after the first quarter.

Speaker 3 It's like, okay, it's not here today. Yeah.
This is that, I'm not elite today, but my eliteness will come back in. It's Baldinger's cat just being elite and not elite at the same time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so I don't know. I hope that's not the last time we saw Joe Flacco play football because that would be a bummer because we like watching Joe Flacco play football.
He needs to run it back.

Speaker 1 He needs to run it back.

Speaker 3 Joe, you got one more on you.

Speaker 1 You do. Absolutely.
Some team with a good offensive line should have Joe Flacco. Why isn't he like the backup quarterback in San Francisco?

Speaker 3 Or just the backup quarterback, like the first one taken. Like, if one starter goes down, Joe should be the first domino.

Speaker 1 He should just be on waiver wires. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, we got to talk about the Texans, though, because this was the Texans' coronation as next up. I think that's officially, it's officially happened.

Speaker 1 We'll see how the rest of the playoffs go for them. But

Speaker 1 the conversation is now when you talk about like the AFC and it's Burrow and it's Allen and it's Mahomes and it's Lamar.

Speaker 1 CJ Stroud and the Texans and how good they are this quickly is insane. Like, and C.J.
Stroud was incredible. That defense was also incredible.
Will Anderson was out of this world good.

Speaker 1 Derek Stingley just completely shut down Amari Cooper. Like, they have a bunch of young guys, and I think the Texans are next stop.

Speaker 1 I think it's the team that everyone's like, hey, the future, the next five, ten years, you're going to have to deal with the Texans.

Speaker 3 I'm going to say this. Sky's the limit for C.J.
Stroud. How about that?

Speaker 1 Oh, listen, he was so, so good. And

Speaker 1 it's crazy because it really is like

Speaker 1 you can look at stats, and his stats are very, very good, but it's, it's such an eye test with C.J. Stroud.

Speaker 1 We'll have like three or four times a game where it's, he's so calm and he stands in there, and he'll be like back-footed, getting smashed by a defensive lineman, and he'll throw an absolute rope to like the perfect placement.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You're like, how is this guy seeing this? He processes it so fast.
Fuck that stupid test.

Speaker 1 And the Texans, like, that was, they just demolished the Browns. It wasn't even close.

Speaker 1 It was close for that first half, and then the second half started, and it was over.

Speaker 3 He throws the ropes, but he also throws the prettiest little touch passes.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 He's got such a good touch. Deshaun Watson probably wants a massage from.
And it was insane the little buckets that he was dropping these high passes into. Like, just let your guy run under it.

Speaker 3 If your guy has a step on another guy, throw it up in the air. And it was beautiful to watch.
And I think now it's our responsibility as media figures to set some unrealistic expectations for C.J.

Speaker 3 Stroud. What would be a

Speaker 3 big question? How many Super Bowls can he win in order for his career to not be a disappointment?

Speaker 1 Over two and a half Super Bowls.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you got to get hammering the over. You got to get three, or else you suck,

Speaker 3 or else you should have been bad from the get-go, but you were so good at the start. Now you have to get three Super Bowls.
You have to play in Houston for

Speaker 3 13 years. Yeah.
13 or 14 years, probably.

Speaker 3 Yeah, three Super Bowls and probably 11 Pro Bowls.

Speaker 1 But it is crazy, though, to consider that, like, okay, so you traded Deshaun Watson, who, again, it needs repeating.

Speaker 1 Like, the Deshaun Watson shit, the timeline is Deshaun Watson kind of wanted out before that. Yeah.
It was weird how it went down.

Speaker 3 Like, remember when the report first came out about all these masseuses? It was like right after Deshaun Watson made it known that he wanted, he was playing hardball with the Texans.

Speaker 3 And then these allegations came out. We're like, what the fuck? So they're probably related.

Speaker 1 Something happened that was correlated correlated there, but Deshaun Watson wanted out. He was your franchise quarterback.
You thought you were going to be in a great place for 10 years.

Speaker 1 You were next up.

Speaker 1 Like it was, hey, Lamar, Deshaun, Mahomes, all these guys in the AFC. Then you're back to just being the worst team in the league.

Speaker 1 And just like that, it's why the NFL is the best because all it takes is just one draft pick or a couple draft picks because, like I said, Stingley and Will Anderson were incredible, but a couple draft picks and the fortunes of your franchise can completely turn.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 that's what's happened in Houston. They have the right coach.
They have an incredible quarterback. They have a young defense.
The sky is the limit.

Speaker 1 Texans fans went from the depths of hell to back up on top almost instantly. And now the AFC, that was going to be Trevor Lawrence's division.

Speaker 1 Not so fast. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I mean, all it took was two years of Davis Mills. Yeah.
And that's all you had to suffer through. Who got in in this game? Who got in for a little bit? Yeah.

Speaker 3 So you had to suffer through two years of Davis Mills.

Speaker 3 now you're back and the future is like the brightest it possibly could be as a texans fan and even if you lose in the next round which i'm not saying that you're going to because i think i've learned a lesson about cj stroud which is uh i'm i'm not going to doubt him yeah i'm not going to doubt him ever no because he's i think he's like that fucking good he is that good and not to brag but we called it yeah

Speaker 1 stroud boys stand up stroud boys he uh I actually think CJ Stroud, you could make the argument now, I went and looked back,

Speaker 1 might have the most impressive rookie year for a a quarterback. So there's obviously some names out there like Justin Herbert was very good as rookie year.
His team wasn't great.

Speaker 1 Kyler,

Speaker 1 Brock Purdy got to the Rocky Championship game, kind of. Yeah.
RG3, incredible rookie year.

Speaker 1 Russ, Cam, Big Ben won a playoff game his rookie year. He also went 13-0.
And Dan Marino also had an incredible rookie year. But C.J.

Speaker 1 Stroud now is 23 touchdowns, five interceptions, 4,000 yards plus, and he has a playoff win. Like, I think he might, he's in the conversation for best rookie year for a quarterback.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I would agree with that. I mean, being around for RG3's rookie year, he had like eight weeks where he was unbelievable.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 And then it ended in a much more horrific fashion than I could have ever imagined. Cam Newton had an awesome rookie year.

Speaker 1 Cam Newton had an awesome rookie year. He was he had 21 touchdowns, 17 interceptions, so didn't take care of the ball the same way, and his team was 6-10.

Speaker 1 And I know, obviously, if you play on a bad team, if you're a high draft picker, you're going to probably play on a bad team, team, but CJ Stroud has them with a playoff win now. Big Ben.

Speaker 1 Two playoff wins, actually, because last week was a playoff game. True.

Speaker 3 Fact. Big Ben's rookie year was so funny, too, when he went 13-0.
13-0. Because his teammates publicly questioned his ability to lead the team when he took it over.

Speaker 3 They're like, well, no, I'm not excited that Big Ben's starting for us. Why would I be excited about that? He's a rookie.
And then they were just like, Ben, just hand the ball off every single play.

Speaker 3 Just hand the ball.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he had 2,600 yards in 13 games and 17 touchdowns, 11 interceptions. And he won a playoff game.
But yeah,

Speaker 1 I think it's a real discussion that he, by the way, I should say Cam did break the record. He had 14 rushing touchdowns his rookie year.

Speaker 1 In terms of play in the regular season and now winning a playoff game as a rookie quarterback, I think C.J. Stroud might be it.
I think the conversation might end with C.J.

Speaker 1 Stroud as the best rookie season in its totality in the NFL.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I'd be so pumped if I was a Titans fan.

Speaker 1 So pumped. Don't let anybody tell you anything.

Speaker 3 No, no. You have our full permission to just be like the biggest dickhead all week.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 3 If you work with somebody that's a Titans fan, if you work with someone who's a Colts fan, or really any team in the AFC besides the Chiefs and the Bills and the Ravens, talk all the shit to them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just don't do it.

Speaker 1 Don't do it with any Astros paraphernalia on. No.
Because that's the. You open yourself up.

Speaker 3 I don't remember, yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, I think, like, oh, I kind of feel bad for Rockets fans because James Harden fucked them over as a franchise. But it's like, wait, but the Astros.

Speaker 1 We'll just keep it to Texans.

Speaker 3 Yeah, no Astros jerseys, no Ted Cruz hats, and then you should be good to go.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Texans. Couple notes on funny notes on the broadcast.
I know your friend was calling the game. Yeah, he did a great job.
He did a great job.

Speaker 1 A couple notes, though, and I don't think it was his fault. He's fed a lot of stuff.

Speaker 1 It did make me laugh when he said that they talked to Nico Collins and asked him what the difference was between last year and this year, and he cited yoga, not

Speaker 1 going from Davis Mills to C.J. Stroud.
But yoga. But yoga.
He's more flexible. Yoga definitely helps.

Speaker 3 He's more flexible. The quarterback plays the same, but he's able to stretch his joints out for him.

Speaker 1 Seemed like a very obvious

Speaker 1 CJ Stroud's my quarterback now. Yeah, namaste.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then the other one that was funny was, and this is, I hate to do this because Michigan fans have had a hell of a week, but it was very funny when they said on the broadcast, C.J. Stroud,

Speaker 1 he stepped up his game in his two biggest games

Speaker 1 in his college career, and they cited the Utah Rose Bowl and the Georgia loss in the playoff just completely

Speaker 1 just yeah just pretending the two Michigan lost well postseason

Speaker 1 yeah but still like you can't say the biggest game I would say Ohio State is the Utah Rose Bull I would actually make the argument that the Ohio State Michigan game is a postseason game yeah I mean the last few years yeah it has been yeah yeah so um those are funny though but but to to his defense that Utah Ohio State game was awesome that was an awesome game it was so good that was a great game and the Georgia game was great but it was funny because Michigan fans are like wait what you

Speaker 1 You can't say that he steps up his game in the big moments and then just forget that game.

Speaker 3 He's so good.

Speaker 1 He's so goddamn.

Speaker 1 I want that. So bad.

Speaker 3 So bad.

Speaker 3 How much do you think it would take for the Texans to trade C.J. Stroud right now?

Speaker 1 Okay, so

Speaker 1 we had this debate last week. Like, how many teams say no?

Speaker 3 Yeah, but I'm saying, what is the hypothetical package for C.J. Stroud?

Speaker 1 I think it's like Mahomes.

Speaker 3 And three first-round picks. Mahomes and two first-round packs.

Speaker 1 He's in his first year. You have another three years to build an entire team.
Like, your window is completely open now. You can go spend all this money, stack your roster.
You don't have to pay C.J.

Speaker 1 Stroud for another three years.

Speaker 3 I don't think that there's a package you could put together. He's that good.
I think you'd say, no, I want our guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Even when we get to the Packers game and Jordan Love has been, I think their numbers were actually almost identical today.

Speaker 8 Oh, it was like four yards off.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they were exact same completions and everything.

Speaker 1 It was, yes, Jordan Love was 16 for 21, 272 yards, three touchdowns. C.J.
Stroud was 16 for 21, 274 yards, three touchdowns.

Speaker 1 But even Jordan Love, you have to pay.

Speaker 1 You have to pay.

Speaker 1 C.J. Stroud is the rare.

Speaker 1 It's crazy.

Speaker 3 A true freshman.

Speaker 1 I didn't mention Andrew Luck also had a good rookie year.

Speaker 3 He had a very good year. But led him to the playoffs.

Speaker 1 This is, and who knows? I mean, they're probably, although... I'm thinking back to it, like, they played the Ravens, I think, week one.
So it was C.J. Stroud's first start.

Speaker 1 And I remember the Ravens won by, I think it was like 26 to 9 or something. But I remember thinking, like, ooh, the Texans kind of stayed in this game a little bit.

Speaker 1 I'm done doubting C.J. Stroud.

Speaker 3 It's also a good reminder going in next year. We should actually, we should probably set a reminder for ourselves about this one.
Don't judge rookie quarterbacks on how they play in the preseason.

Speaker 1 Yeah, or first game. Or first month.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he was not very good.

Speaker 1 Or first three years.

Speaker 8 Yeah. Do you guys want it? Week one.

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah, because we might, there's a good chance that Big and and I both have rookie quarterbacks. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Week one Friday previously.

Speaker 3 Yeah, can you remind us, like, hey, don't judge them if they play poorly, but yeah, if they play poorly, if it's good. If it's good, then, yes, overreact, please.

Speaker 1 Yeah, then you have to overreact. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Remind us to overreact, actually,

Speaker 3 if they complete a pass.

Speaker 1 This also,

Speaker 1 it really is like, I want it so bad, and it makes me think about my own situation, probably makes you think about your own situation as well, PFT, like seeing C.J. Stroud play football,

Speaker 1 that's a no-doubt guy. You don't have to, we've had the discussion many times.
If you ever have to ask yourself or convince yourself even a little bit, the answer is no. Yeah.
Because C.J.

Speaker 1 Stroud, there is no debate. There is no like, ooh, is he? Is he not? No, he is.
We see it with our own two eyes.

Speaker 3 I wonder if David Tepper watched this game. You think he did? No, probably not.
I don't think he did.

Speaker 1 Oh, I was one-off. 25-9 was the final score week one when the Ravens played

Speaker 3 the Texans. That might be the worst situation to to get thrown into as a rookie, too.
Your very first game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Ravens.

Speaker 3 Go on the road to Baltimore.

Speaker 1 To Baltimore. Have fun.
It's going to be a fun game. It was a Gami.
Yeah. It was the first game.
Oh, that was a Gami. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Great. They're haunting us even in

Speaker 1 the middle.

Speaker 3 You remember every Gami?

Speaker 1 He's got the pictures right behind him. I can actually see the CJ Stroud one.

Speaker 8 That's a different one.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 Do we have a line yet for this game? Whose line is it anyway?

Speaker 3 What's the spread? I'm going to say Baltimore. Ravens.
Seven and a half.

Speaker 1 Eight, yeah.

Speaker 1 We don't have a line. Can we find a line? Can you find a line? Is this game Steelers? Well, no, it's not.
No, it's not set. This is the Steelers coming.
It's not set. It's not set.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 8 There's only one set game, which is Packers Niners. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Which that has to be like Niners 10 or something.

Speaker 8 Yeah, it's 9.5.

Speaker 1 Okay, so congrats to the Texans. Sorry to Browns fans.
Also, Bobby Sloick probably going to get a job.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Sloick, he's going to get a lot of interviews.

Speaker 1 But does he do with Ben Johnson where he's like, you know what? Maybe I should stay. Maybe, like, there's what C.J.
Stroud going into next season is going to be probably the fourth or fifth

Speaker 1 odds for the MVP.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's a crazy thing.

Speaker 1 It won't be that crazy. Like, so you'd be like, oh, maybe I'll just be offensive coordinator, the MVP.

Speaker 3 If I were Bobby Sloke, I would just keep turning down head coaching jobs until they can't stand it anymore. And they're like, this guy has to be awesome.
Right.

Speaker 3 Because he said no to head coaching jobs so many times.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 3 That's the strategy right there.

Speaker 1 And Domingo Ryan's awesome.

Speaker 3 But But then you never take one.

Speaker 1 You just stay a coordinator. Also, we should get credit for that because I think we were throwing Domingo Ryan's name around before he became a head coach.
Yep. He should be a head coach.

Speaker 3 Next up. Yep.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was our own Rooney rule, internal.

Speaker 1 She throw it out.

Speaker 3 No, you have to throw out a defensive head.

Speaker 1 Yes, exactly. Exactly.
Just to show everyone that we, you know,

Speaker 1 defensive and offensive coach is the same.

Speaker 3 I think it's about time that we, we used to almost interview more defensive head coaches than offensive head coach because they've had it so bad for so long.

Speaker 1 It's just, it really does show if you hire a defensive head coach, it's not the worst thing. You just got to nail the offensive coordinator, and that's really all it is.

Speaker 3 And preferably, you have to have an offensive coordinator that has really good future offensive coordinator friends that he comes along with.

Speaker 1 Yes, but that's it because a lot of defensive head coaches are like, oh man, why do we hire another defensive head coach? Well, if he gets a great offensive coordinator, who the fuck cares?

Speaker 3 Yeah, so if you get a great offensive coordinator, then you have to be prepared to lose them in one or two years. That's a really good problem.

Speaker 1 I'd love to hear it. And it's an awesome problem to have.

Speaker 3 I would love to be in that situation.

Speaker 1 Because we keep losing it out the other end. Yeah.
When they get fired. Okay.
Next game. Chiefs 26.
Dolphins 7.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. The candy ass uniform showed up in a big, big, big way.

Speaker 3 Those pants were a big blinking aqua warning sign being like not ready for negative 30-degree wind chills right now. That was...
It was like invading Russia in the wintertime.

Speaker 1 It was so bad. The Dolphins are so bad.

Speaker 3 They are.

Speaker 3 The game would have probably been a little bit different if it was in the friendly confines of Miami, where it was probably going to be 60 degrees.

Speaker 3 But you just took one look at Tua when he went on the field. Yeah.
Like, oh, this guy doesn't want to be here. And I, and I don't blame him.
Like, you should not be outside when it's that cold.

Speaker 1 But I also don't think that it would have been different in Miami. The Dolphins finished this season seven games versus playoff teams.
Actually, let me do it the other way around.

Speaker 1 11 games versus non-playoff teams. They were 10-1 plus 196-point differential.
Seven games versus playoff teams. They were 1-6

Speaker 1 minus 110-point differential. Yep.
They just could. They were always this team.

Speaker 3 I think it would have been different if it was Miami. I don't think it would have been.

Speaker 3 Maybe they don't win.

Speaker 1 The Chiefs would have scored more because Miko Hardman wouldn't have just stopped running routes five times.

Speaker 1 That was weird.

Speaker 3 There were some players on both sides of the ball that just didn't want to be outside. They're like, I want to go home.
And it was Mikole Hardman that gave up on a route. There was a perfect pass.

Speaker 3 He thought he got held, right? So he just stopped and looked for a call in the middle of the play.

Speaker 3 And then there was Elliott on the Dolphin side that just did not look like he wanted to tackle anybody at all. And again, I don't blame you.

Speaker 3 It probably sucked being out in that weather, but it definitely affected. You know who it didn't affect at all? Was Andy Reid.
Yeah. Andy Reid with the icicle mustache.
Incredible.

Speaker 3 He looked like he just finished off Frosty the Snowman.

Speaker 3 It was

Speaker 3 one of the best football guy sights of all time. Just getting icicles building up on your upper lip, and you're so focused on calling plays that you don't even wipe your mouth off.

Speaker 1 He probably, I mean, he needed to get a full towel when he got into the locker room.

Speaker 3 Probably a blow-dry. He probably blow-dried his mustache.
He was dripping everywhere.

Speaker 1 So the question is, what do the Dolphins do? Because I like Tua, but this has now been a couple years, and obviously last year he didn't.

Speaker 1 I mean, Skylar Thompson played better in the cold in the one playoff game the Dolphins played in. It's been 20 years since they've won a playoff game.

Speaker 1 Do you say, well, we had so many defensive injuries, which is true. The Dolphins were just a shell of themselves defensively by the end of the year.

Speaker 1 They lost like their best players on almost every single level.

Speaker 1 Or do you say we got to figure something out because, and maybe it's Mike McDaniel play calling and like Mike McDaniel was he's a great coach, but like

Speaker 1 how many stupid screens and like, they just don't have that second level of like, hey, the elements are here. We got to just run the ball down your throat or we got to play a different way.

Speaker 3 Even the passing plays that they're running, like you're saying, all the screens out to the side, they were afraid of the middle of the field, which isn't like the Dolphins have been all year long, right?

Speaker 3 They have thrown the ball to the middle of the field a little bit.

Speaker 1 And the Chiefs' defense was incredible, so we got to give them credit.

Speaker 1 They were all over the place.

Speaker 3 I have to assume that there was something about the conditions that made him not want to throw the ball like a normal human being would.

Speaker 1 But you can't. So is the answer for the Dolphins that they have to get home disadvantaged? That's the only way that they're going to win.
Spin zone,

Speaker 3 losing the division was actually good for you because now you get to play an easier schedule next year. Which should be which should be now maybe you can play 13 teams that don't make the playoffs.

Speaker 3 Yeah. You get home field advantage to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know what the answer is for the Dolphins, but it does feel

Speaker 1 I would assume you had a pretty successful season. You were playing for the division in the last week of the season, which was actually kind of a collapse and you shouldn't have been in there.
But

Speaker 1 your team is good. You have good players,

Speaker 1 but it feels like if they just run exactly the same thing back, they're going to just have the same thing happen when they play a team that has more grit and piss and vinegar to them.

Speaker 3 Like Mike Vrabel in the fourth quarter of a game.

Speaker 3 If they had closed out that game against Tennessee, it might be a different story.

Speaker 1 They would have been hosting the Bills. Probably, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
So,

Speaker 3 yeah, I don't know if you blow it. They're not in blow-it-up mode.

Speaker 1 They're not, but

Speaker 3 it would take balls to blow it.

Speaker 3 I feel like Mike McDaniel is too nice of a guy, and he's probably close enough friends with some of the players on the team, or at least they've formed that relationship, which is good that you want a coach to have, but I feel like he doesn't have the balls to blow it up right now.

Speaker 1 It's not blow it up. It's definitely not blowed up because you can't blow up a team that has that much talent and they won, what, 10 games, 11 games, 10 games? 11 and 6.
11 and 6.

Speaker 1 You can't blow up an 11-win team, especially when it feels like they're on the rise. But

Speaker 1 what are the tweaks that make you not be a team that can't play other good teams? I don't know the answer to that.

Speaker 3 Got to add some pieces. You've got to add some pieces in free agency.

Speaker 1 You got to add some toughness. I know that sounds very,

Speaker 1 we're like minimizing everything, but the dolphins do lack toughness. Yeah.

Speaker 3 How could you add toughness in one offseason?

Speaker 1 Richie Incognito. Yeah, bring him back.
Bring him back.

Speaker 1 That's actually a very good way to add toughness.

Speaker 3 Sometimes you've got to go backwards to go forward.

Speaker 1 Bill Romanowski, linebackers coach.

Speaker 3 Oh, I love that. Danny Woodhead, running back consultant.
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 These are ways to bring toughness.

Speaker 3 Yeah, John Kuhn. Just have John Coon in the building.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just to hang out.

Speaker 8 Just have Frank in there and just rip every player.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Change the logo.

Speaker 3 Yeah, change the logo. Bring back the dolphin that's wearing the helmet.
Yeah. And then put the dolphin on the helmet of that dolphin.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 they need to do something different. Something's got to change.

Speaker 3 That's the name of the dolphin.

Speaker 1 Yeah. TD.
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 8 And he was stolen Nasventura Pet Detective. That's facts.
Well, his name was Snowflake in the movie. That's facts.

Speaker 3 Bring back Ray Finkel.

Speaker 1 Also, okay, here's one easy one they could do.

Speaker 1 Get Chase Claypool off your team. Yeah.
Okay, so Chase Claypool, here are the numbers. The Steelers, the season they traded Chase Claypool, before they traded him, they were 2-6.

Speaker 1 After they traded him, they were 7-2.

Speaker 1 The Bears then got Chase Claypool.

Speaker 1 Before they got Chase Claypool, they were 3-5. While having Chase Claypool on the team, they were 1-13.
The minute they got rid of him, they were 6-5.

Speaker 1 1-13. And then the Dolphins started the season 6-2, traded for Chase Claypool, finished 5-5.
Yeah. Probably got to get him off your team.

Speaker 3 Not good.

Speaker 1 That might be the simple fix.

Speaker 3 What's his career war?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 I want to know, which is plus-minus. The 1-13 stretch for the Bears with Chase Claypool.
And I don't think he was even active for the one, which was against the Reds commanders this year.

Speaker 3 He was out that year. Here's what you do in free agency: you add Chris Jones.
Oh. You just get Chris Jones from the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 That would actually be really nice.

Speaker 3 That would be very, very smart if you could get him on the team.

Speaker 3 What about this? Let me just dingle this one out here.

Speaker 1 Dingle? I like it. I think Dingle it.
I don't think I've heard that before. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Dingle? No, I'm dangling. I think you mean dangle.
I'm dangling. I'm fun of him.
I'm dingle. I'm dingling.
I'm dingle.

Speaker 3 It's like I'm ringing a bell and I'm seeing if you react.

Speaker 1 Dingle. It's like Hank in a cold pool, a dingle.
Yeah, dingle, dingle.

Speaker 3 Kirk Cousins. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Michael Dolphin. Ooh.
I don't hate it.

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 3 I would kick the tires on Kirk.

Speaker 1 I really like Tua, and I wish it didn't go that way in the last two games. Because the last two games,

Speaker 1 the Dolphins offense in the second half against the Bills, and then all Saturday night just did nothing. You know, who'd be really good.
They had one broken play to Tyreek.

Speaker 3 You know who'd be really good in that offense?

Speaker 1 Joe Flacco.

Speaker 3 Joe Flacco would be... Cheetah would not be able to outrun a Joe Flacco pass.

Speaker 1 I actually know exactly what they need to do. This is a real one because we've thrown out some fake ones.
Although Richard Incognito was a real one.

Speaker 1 The Dolphins desperately need a big athletic tight end,

Speaker 1 like a dude. Yeah.
It feels like that is missing from their game. Kind of like what the Bills had

Speaker 1 before they got Dawson Knox and Dalton Kincaid, and now they have that middle of the field. But

Speaker 1 they need one of those guys. Trade up.
Maybe be able to run the ball. Trade up.
Catch the ball in the middle. Brock Powers.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It does feel like if they had that, their offense would be a little more cohesive.

Speaker 1 The Dolphins are pretty much predicated on you got to hit those big shots. And on Saturday night,

Speaker 1 there were none.

Speaker 8 And their running game was so good this year. That's what makes it even more frustrating.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but Aldi told us

Speaker 1 they never had like a physical power run. Yeah.
Yeah. And

Speaker 1 HM was so good. No, they're soft.
They got hurt.

Speaker 3 I want to see training camp fights from the Dolphins next year. I want to see just an angry football team.
Yeah. If they're angry, then they could win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 They should build

Speaker 1 an igloo or a Verse Dome. Yeah.
Practice in the cold.

Speaker 3 Do training camp in Mystery, Alaska.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I like that.
All right, we got to talk about the Chiefs, though. The Dangerous Chiefs, who are very dangerous.
That was

Speaker 1 basically

Speaker 1 everything that

Speaker 1 all Chiefs fans are like, just wait, just wait, just wait, Rashi Rice. Just wait worked because

Speaker 1 he had eight catches for 130 yards and a touchdown, which I think that combo was a record for all of 24 hours until Puka Nakua played his first playoff game. That was a rookie record.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 Patrick Mahomes is now 12-3 in the playoffs. 12-3 in the playoffs.
He's played six seasons. First season, he was, I'm not counting because he didn't play.
He played that week 17 games.

Speaker 1 12 and 3 in the playoffs. Patrick Mahomes has more playoff wins than Troy Aikman.

Speaker 1 Patrick Mahomes has the same amount of playoff wins as Aaron Rodgers, and he's one playoff win away from tying Ben Rottesberger and Brett Favre. Patrick Mahomes, again, 12 playoff wins in six seasons.

Speaker 1 Peyton Manning got his 12th playoff win in his 17th and final season. John Elway got his 12th playoff win in his 16th and final season.
He has 12 playoff wins in six seasons. He's 12 and three.

Speaker 1 It's insane. Every single year, it's Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs.

Speaker 3 Do it on the road, though, Pat. Oh, we should.
Do it on the road. He's an arrowhead merchant.

Speaker 1 We should have put a disclaimer here for all the Chiefs fans that think we never say anything nice about Patrick Mahomes. Please don't listen to this next clip because

Speaker 1 it will just ruin everything that you've thought about.

Speaker 3 The running disclaimer for Patrick Mahomes on this show is that everything that we say, every word that comes out of my mouth, it could be prefaced by Patrick Mahomes is the best quarterback in the NFL, but, and then I say whatever I'm going to say anyway.

Speaker 3 Right. Like, because it's understood he's the best quarterback in the NFL.

Speaker 1 Again, six seasons, 12 playoff wins.

Speaker 1 It's not even like a question anymore.

Speaker 1 Like, he, he obviously, people will expect him to get to Brady in terms of Super Bowls, but, like, he's going to pass some of the best quarterbacks of all time in his sixth or seventh season. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's insane.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and there's a reason why it hasn't had to go on the road because he's really fucking good in the regular season, too. Yeah.
So they don't have to worry about that.

Speaker 3 Did you see after the game the exchange between Tua and Patrick Mahomes? Yeah.

Speaker 3 Tua went up to Patrick Mahomes and he said, hey, man, great game. You want to do a jersey swap? Can I have your jersey? And Mahomes looked at him and was like,

Speaker 1 you know what?

Speaker 3 I'm supposed to give this to somebody else.

Speaker 1 But hang on. You know what?

Speaker 3 I'm supposed to give it to somebody else. Can I send you one instead? So

Speaker 3 he's going to mail to a different jersey. You have to have that lockdown.

Speaker 1 You can't. It's like.

Speaker 1 You can't ask for it after a playoff loss where you get completely embarrassed.

Speaker 3 Well, there's that, but also you have to know that if you do ask for it, you're going to get the jersey. Yeah.
Like, it's like asking a hot chick to homecoming.

Speaker 3 You have to know that the answer is yes before you embarrass yourself.

Speaker 1 You can't propose unless you know the answer is going to be yes.

Speaker 3 Exactly.

Speaker 1 And he did it on the Jumbotron.

Speaker 3 He did it on the Jumbotron. And Mahomes, he was polite, but he said, I've already promised this to somebody else.
I I just.

Speaker 1 You should ask for the helmet. That's cracked.

Speaker 3 So that is fucking tough right there about Mahomes. It was so cold outside that their equipment was breaking.
His helmet shatters, and he keeps playing.

Speaker 3 And they're like, hey, no, you have to get your helmet switched out. And that right there is why I'm not a football player.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 I could not do that.

Speaker 1 My helmet wouldn't have shattered. Yeah, too much.
I would have been standing on the side.

Speaker 3 Well, you would avoid the big hit.

Speaker 1 You'd be in the end zone. My helmet would be on the heated chair.
Yeah, you'd be in the side line.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you'd be taken off because you just scored another 99-yard touchdown.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 it's crazy, though, because the Chiefs are so alive in these playoffs.

Speaker 1 It would not stun me whatsoever after all this happened this season. It's still Patrick Mahomes.
He's still the guy that you trust more than any other quarterback in the NFL.

Speaker 3 But you saw a couple of those passes at Kelsey. Kelsey had a couple big drops.
Kelsey looks old.

Speaker 1 But if Rashee Rice is going to start being good, like Rasheed Rice has been good.

Speaker 1 I should say that.

Speaker 1 He has come along this season, and you've seen it. He has grown a lot as a receiver.
So if Rashi Rice is like, now is my coming out party. Now I'm going to be a world beater.

Speaker 1 That is what their offenses needed. And Pacheco just runs so fucking.
Pacheco was built for that game last year.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Pacheco weather.

Speaker 1 Pacheco actually, I think there was the Dolphins that didn't want to tackle him just seeing him stomp around.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he was the only one that was getting any traction in the ground because he was just stomping tiny little knives into it with his seats.

Speaker 1 He probably broke the coils underneath.

Speaker 3 I love it when he just moonstops. He curb stomps the ground when he runs.
And it's very funny because sometimes he does it for no real reason.

Speaker 3 Like the best, the best is when Isaiah Pacheco gets in the open field and then he just starts stomping the ground upright while he's running away from somebody.

Speaker 3 You're like, yeah, that's not how physics work. You're supposed to be like leaning forward and running.

Speaker 3 But yeah, he was ready for the cold. And I think that Rashi Rice is the one guy on the Chiefs where he's...
the one pass catcher that hasn't fucked up badly enough this year that it's cost him a game.

Speaker 3 He's been at least consistent across the board. And he's young.
Yeah. Everybody else has been like, well, that guy can't trust him.

Speaker 1 He has an excuse. All these other guys don't have an excuse.

Speaker 3 I think I trust Rashi Rice.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 3 I don't trust MVS. Travis Kelsey, he's still.

Speaker 1 Oh, Hardman, I don't trust.

Speaker 3 He's still very good. Travis Kelsey's still really good, but he has a lot of drops now.
Yeah. Tired fingers.

Speaker 1 Yeah, very tired fingers.

Speaker 3 What'd you think about the box, Jake?

Speaker 8 I saw the swag surfing.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Taylor was into that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 The box was blurred out a little bit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was very cold. It was a blur out.
Foggy, foggy black. It was a big box.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah, for the kids at home.

Speaker 9 She wore

Speaker 8 a jacket that was made by Kyle Yuschek's wife.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yuszek.

Speaker 3 Can you please say her name? Say her name, Jake. Yeah.
I have to look it up. I will say that.
Said it. Christian Yuszek.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 Okay. Christian Yuszchuk's wife.

Speaker 1 She makes everyone's jackets. And shout out Kyle because he's ride or die.
He was just replying to everyone online. I think Kyle made it.
Might be made by my wife. Yeah, he's awesome.

Speaker 3 Yeah, no, it's sick. He might be the wife guy of the year.
Yeah. He was replying to every tweet that was going viral.
He was just like, yeah, my wife made that.

Speaker 3 And then he would tag his wife and everyone.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he made

Speaker 1 a jacket for someone on the Lion's side lunch. Yeah, she made Taylor whatever that guy.
No. Lautner.
There it is. Okay.
Taylor Lautner. I don't know who he is.

Speaker 9 Team Jacob.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 8 What's it called? Twilight? Twilight.

Speaker 1 Okay. Twilight reference.
Team Jacob.

Speaker 3 But yeah, so she made that jacket today. And then...
Jushek was gassing her up, too.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 3 He was like, yeah, she did this one too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I want one. Yeah.
Well, I want one too. What would be the funniest player? Kyle.

Speaker 3 Who would be the funniest player to get a jacket like that made of? Jameis Winston?

Speaker 1 I would like one that's just Justin Fields and Caleb Williams. Split? Yeah.
Duo one? Yeah. I like both of them.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I want one that's just a second overall pick.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'll take first overall pick. Back-to-back first overall pick.
Yeah. Give me that.

Speaker 3 Ray Lewis would be pretty funny.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that would be fun.

Speaker 3 Ray Lewis. If you see somebody wearing the Ray Lewis custom jacket, run.
Yes. Run.
They will fuck you up. Yes.

Speaker 1 But yeah, the Chiefs are as alive as, I mean, that was, that was an ass kicking. And they, they did it defensively.
They did it with Mahomes being Mahomes.

Speaker 1 I still just can't get over 12 playoff wins in six seasons is a joke. Yeah.
I mean, Brady's the only one who's come close.

Speaker 1 Brady, I think, I think Brady surpassed it because he obviously won three Super Bowls in his first four years.

Speaker 1 So it really is Brady than Mahomes. Like, he will pass everyone.

Speaker 1 He's four away from Montana. Like, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 He's out of this world good. And just when you talk about big playoff moments, he's the number one trust guy.

Speaker 3 It must be so, so nice to be a Kansas City fan.

Speaker 1 God damn. He even had that big run.
He does those runs in the playoffs where, like, he gets faster.

Speaker 1 Patrick Mahomes' runs in the playoffs have never not worked. Yeah.
They just always work. And they always go for about seven to nine yards farther than you think they're going to go for.

Speaker 3 He's also the best quarterback at running out of bounds. When he sticks the ball out, he'll just tuck it out at the last second.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Always gets you an extra like yard, yard and a half at the very end of it.

Speaker 3 And he'll also do a thing where he'll like run to the sideline and then teams will assume that he's going to go out of bounds.

Speaker 3 Then he cuts back in and doesn't get hit at all and goes down on his own terms.

Speaker 1 Yeah, really good.

Speaker 3 Really good performance by Mahomes. I think the Chiefs, we said like a few weeks ago that the Chiefs are in a position where now they actually do have doubters.

Speaker 3 Well, yeah, but now they now they can actually harvest all that, right? All that doubt.

Speaker 3 And because they've done it in the past, when they've had to invent people that say that they can't win, now they're 100% right when they say that everyone's overlooking them.

Speaker 3 And they have been overlooked.

Speaker 1 And the people who do that are just as dumb as the people who decide to pick the Broncos or the Raiders or the Chargers to win the AFC West every single August. Yes.
Like,

Speaker 1 yes, the Chiefs could lose next week. They could lose in the AFC Championship.
They could lose in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to be the one who's being like, the Chiefs are dead and we should count them out of the playoffs because it's Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 3 You know what's crazy is if you talk about like, is this season a disappointment? And for the Browns, it's not.

Speaker 3 For the Texans, it's not. For the Dolphins, it is.

Speaker 3 For the Chiefs, depending how they play next week, I could see a world where the Chiefs lose in a close game and Kansas City fans aren't super dejected about it because

Speaker 3 you know what you have to fix.

Speaker 1 I do think, though, the Chiefs are, and this is a compliment to them, they are kind of in that Patriots zone where it's like AFC Championship is marked on their calendar every year.

Speaker 3 They're also in the zone. And what have they been to?

Speaker 1 Five straight, six straight? You're right.

Speaker 3 You're in sixth straight?

Speaker 1 You don't want to waste.

Speaker 8 Every year since 2018.

Speaker 1 Yes, so sixth straight.

Speaker 3 You don't want to waste a year in the homes. Right.
So that's where the disappointment would be. But in terms of how far can this team go, you know that there's some flaws in the team.

Speaker 3 Your defense is great. You've got real problems at wide receiver.

Speaker 3 If you compete next week and you play well, you score a few points.

Speaker 1 Oh, I think there's

Speaker 3 going to be pissed off. Don't get loser talk.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Hank's here.

Speaker 1 I think, Hank, am I right?

Speaker 1 That's a loser talk. Oh, shut up, Hank.
Hank, I am right, though. The Chiefs fans have every right now, like, they have it penciled in, like, playoffs start in the AFC Championship game.

Speaker 5 Yeah, you have the best quarterback in the world. Like, you have one of the best coaches in the world.
It's very similar to the Patriots. Like, you have a banged-up team.
You have injuries.

Speaker 5 You don't have the best receivers. Like, that sounds like the Patriots run, but you still expect to go to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 And if you lost when the Patriots did lose in the divisional round, you're like, that was a huge disappointment. Huge.

Speaker 1 And if you get to the AFC Championship game, if you lose the AFC Championship game, those games are tight. Those games are tough.
But you have to get to the AFC Championship game.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Mahomes and Andy Reid, there's no excuse.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I do think that's how they, and it's, again, it's a credit to them that that is what the standard is.

Speaker 1 Like, the standard has gotten so high that they can every year be like, hey, we will be playing in the last weekend in January every single year.

Speaker 3 But if you go back, if you rewind like five weeks, you weren't. You were looking at a team and you're like, I don't expect us to win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 But that happened to the Patriots a bunch of times, too. They would win Super Bowls those years, where it's like, oh, yeah, everyone's written us off.
And they just find a way to round up the ball.

Speaker 5 There's no receivers.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I just think my theory is that your team, at least, isn't constructed to a point right now where you're expecting to win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 No, they're not a superpower like they've been other years, but they have Patrick Mahomes, and that makes them the most dangerous team in every playoffs they're in.

Speaker 3 But, Hank, we want to use your time wisely.

Speaker 1 Yeah, wait, Hank, we should do some ads first. Let's do two ads and then we'll go.

Speaker 5 Sorry, yeah, yeah, no, I couldn't, I was, I was, I could not help myself when PFT was like, I couldn't, I couldn't help.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 I was happy you were here for that. Can you just move

Speaker 1 the mouse on Hank's face? Yeah. All right, PFT, let's do a couple ads and then we'll get to Packers Cowboys, which Hank attended.

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Speaker 1 Okay, Packers 48. Cowboys 32.

Speaker 1 We have Hank in Dallas. He's sitting in a basement, it looks like, with a sign saying, wish you would.

Speaker 1 behind him.

Speaker 1 Hank, can we just quickly talk about the game and then I want to hear all your thoughts? Is that okay? Of course. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm here for you guys. I want to start with just real quick.
The Packers, Jordan Love is really fucking good. I've just accepted the fact that he's probably a future Hall of Famer.

Speaker 1 I'm hoping that

Speaker 1 I'm hoping it's just one Super Bowl like the last two guys.

Speaker 1 But I also am starting to kind of connect some dots. And

Speaker 1 Aaron Rodgers won Super Bowl was

Speaker 1 week 17. The Bears lost to the Packers.
The Bears were in the playoffs already. Bears lost to the Packers.
Packers were able to get in with that week 17 win.

Speaker 1 Went on a miracle run to win the Super Bowl as the sixth seed.

Speaker 1 The Bears lost to the Packers in week 17 or 18 this year. Packers get in last seed.
Jordan Love.

Speaker 1 Okay, I've done the dots connecting, and it doesn't look good. But either way, the Packers were awesome today.
They kicked the shit out of the Cowboys. Jordan Love is so calm, cool, collected.

Speaker 1 Everything we said for C.J. Stroud goes for Jordan Love.
Like he's, you can just see it with your eyes. It's just there.

Speaker 1 His back foot throws, his calmness in the pocket, moving around. He has just gone to the Aaron Rodgers factory and just remade Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 3 So he had the first perfect playoff passer rating in the history of the stat today.

Speaker 1 Which is crazy that C.J.

Speaker 3 Stroud didn't. Which is nuts.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 I mean, going back to Aaron Schatz from last Friday. Yeah.

Speaker 3 He said that stat really doesn't take everything into account that's important, but still, it's a big number, and he's the first person to ever have that big number in the playoffs.

Speaker 3 Obviously, he played really well.

Speaker 3 The Packers now have two playoff wins. We talked about this on Friday, too.
The Packers have two playoff wins in Dallas at ATT Stadium.

Speaker 3 The Dallas Cowboys also have two wins in the playoffs at ATT Stadium. Three.

Speaker 1 Three. They won a Super Bowl there.

Speaker 8 Yeah, it's technically three wins in the venue.

Speaker 3 So against the Cowboys,

Speaker 1 they beat the Steelers there. But they beat the Steelers there.

Speaker 3 So, really, yeah.

Speaker 1 They have three. They won the biggest thing there.

Speaker 3 They own that building.

Speaker 1 They literally own that building.

Speaker 3 It's crazy. Yeah, but Jordan Love, to your point, he is the most calm person that you've ever seen.
He is staying completely median the entire time. You can get guys in his face.

Speaker 3 He's making throws off his back feet where he releases and you're like, oh, that's a bad throw. And then it just travels 35 yards on a rope.
Right.

Speaker 1 It's crazy. It's nuts.
And the Packers' defense played great. Like, they were obviously the side of

Speaker 1 the part of their team that everyone was saying, like, well, their defense is trash.

Speaker 1 I know that they gave up a lot of yards in the second half in garbage time. They made Dak look terrible in the first half.
Pick six, another interception. They got him a short field and a touchdown.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to let myself get worried until if they beat the 49ers, I will officially be worried because the 49ers are my savior.

Speaker 1 They do kick the shit out of the Packers every single time they play them. So I'm not that worried.
But

Speaker 1 this is, we were talking about wins of a season. Now the Texans have a win of a season.
The Browns have a win of a season, even though they lost. The Dolphins have a loss of a season.

Speaker 1 Packers have a resounding success of a season. This is a rebuilding year, and they just went and won a playoff game as a seven seed.

Speaker 1 It's, yeah,

Speaker 1 they're good. Like, Jordan Love is going to be good for a really long time.

Speaker 1 I have to just come to grips with it, and I have to be like, hopefully the Bears could somehow find someone better because there's no other way around it.

Speaker 1 He's a really good quarterback, and it hurts me to say it.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and you know who's also a really good quarterback? Dak Prescott. 400 yards passing.
I feel like you have to extend the guy, right? He shows up in the playoffs. He delivers when it matters.

Speaker 3 He doesn't play defense, big cat. Dak Prescott, you got to give him a massive, massive contract extension and keep him in that division for the next seven years.
Am I right, Max?

Speaker 9 100%. If you look at that stat line today, how could you think otherwise?

Speaker 1 You couldn't. What did he have? 400 yards? 400 yards.

Speaker 9 Three touchdowns.

Speaker 3 He had three touchdowns and two interceptions. So that's more touchdowns and interceptions.
He's a gunslinger.

Speaker 3 He's going to take chances and throw a couple bad ones that he gets unlucky on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was the Dallas defense that really let him down. It was Dak Prescott.

Speaker 3 Dak showed up. And I think that people need to put more respect on Dak Prescott's name and keep him around.

Speaker 3 That man is the face of your franchise.

Speaker 3 They don't grow Daks on trees.

Speaker 1 There's one person who disagrees with us. Not Hank Lockwood, who's shaking his head, who's a noted Cowboys fan.
Skip Bayless had this to say after the game. Get rid of Dak Prescott.

Speaker 1 Enough of the suffering. He was a fourth rounder for a reason.

Speaker 1 That's mean. That's mean to bring up your draft grade.

Speaker 1 I threw his jersey away for a reason. He's now 2-5 in the playoffs.
Big moment loser, not a Dallas Cowboy quarterback. Fourth rounder for a reason.
You don't do that.

Speaker 1 Bring up his crude.

Speaker 3 What Skip's doing is saying, like, we were right about Dak.

Speaker 3 The media was right about Dak.

Speaker 1 Skip got bodied by his smart trash can. It was awesome.

Speaker 1 He did his annual, I'm going to throw my cowboys paraphernalia away, and his smart trash can just kept on closing on him after every time he tossed something away, and he had to go frustratingly open it again while Ernestine was held under hostage, taking yet again another video.

Speaker 3 It's very concerning to me that Skip no longer has the groin-level microwave in his kitchen. He has like an upstairs microwave.
He has to go into the cabinets to get it.

Speaker 1 Terrible backsplash, by the way.

Speaker 3 Bad backsplash. The kitchen needs a lot of work.

Speaker 1 Also, Skip, be a man. Burn your fucking shit.
Well, I'm so sick of you just taking it out of of the trash and then doing it again next year. Be a man and burn it.

Speaker 3 So he's two and five. Two and five.
Dak is two and five in his playoff career. I'm pretty sure that

Speaker 3 Skip Bayless has thrown away the same jersey five times. Five times.
Five times.

Speaker 3 Fun stat, though, about Dak.

Speaker 3 It's kind of a hater stat. I personally, I consider myself to be a Dak stan.

Speaker 3 I like Dak Prescott. I'd like to see him stay around for a while.
Love him.

Speaker 1 He is.

Speaker 3 2-5 in his playoff career. He's tied for the lowest postseason quarterback win percentage in the Super Bowl era with a minimum of five starts.

Speaker 3 I'd also like to play a quick game that I just invented right now called Dactor Fiction. Okay.
You want to play?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 All right. So Dactor Fiction, Dak Prescott has as many playoff wins as Nick Foles.

Speaker 9 Fiction. That would be

Speaker 3 fine. It's fiction because Dak and Tony Romo combined have as many playoff wins as Nick Foles does.
Dactor Fiction, Dak had over a half-yard passing in the first quarter. That's fiction.

Speaker 3 That's fiction. Yeah.
The undercashed on that one. Yeah.
Yeah, cashed the tickets.

Speaker 3 Dact or fiction, the Dallas Cowboys are the first team to win 12 games in three straight seasons and failed to make the conference championship in any of those years.

Speaker 1 That is fact.

Speaker 1 That's fact.

Speaker 3 That one's a DACT.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah.
They have not made the conference championship in 29 years, I believe. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 I think so. Not since they went to the Super Bowl.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think it's 29 years. It's been a long-ass time for the Cowboys.
Every year, we hear about the Cowboys. Watch out for the Cowboys.
And then they're bounced.

Speaker 1 And this one, as seven and a half-point favorites against the Packers, who were the seven seed

Speaker 1 at home, where they had not lost this year. Dact or fiction, the Cowboys did not lost this year.
Dact. Daked.
They had not lost this year at home.

Speaker 1 They got absolutely pants, looked like idiots.

Speaker 1 Little boy ass play. Little boy ass play.

Speaker 1 I do, I think most people

Speaker 1 are agreeing with us now that Dak, like, this is enough now where it's like, okay, something's up. One and six against the spread as a playoff playoff quarterback, two and five overall.

Speaker 1 And I had said this one and six against the spread. And Max just, I had never heard this before, but Max, or no, sorry, it was Stephen Che.

Speaker 1 Stephen Shea was like, well, they stole all of our signs last year. I didn't know that that was something that the Bucs community was claiming.

Speaker 3 That sounds like something that Stephen Shea read on a message board.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so I guess we'll put an asterisk on his one.

Speaker 1 But if you watch that game and you say that Dak was not the problem, yes, the defense sucked. The Cowboys defense sucked.
Jordan Love carved him up.

Speaker 1 Dak Prescott, how he came out in that game, it was over. Like, he looked so bad to start the game and two interceptions in the first half.

Speaker 1 He put them in such a hole that there was no chance they were coming back. And then when they're down 25 points or whatever it was, he's tossing the ball all over the yard.

Speaker 1 Like, you can pretend that that wasn't a Dak loss. That was a Dak loss.
He did not show up to start the game, and they got punched in the mouth, and they could never recover.

Speaker 3 And Jerry Jones was so upset after like the first quarter. He was slamming his paper around up in the booth, turning around, getting Bill Belichick on the phone.

Speaker 1 Mike McCarthy's out.

Speaker 3 Mike McCarthy's got to be done.

Speaker 3 As Jerry Jones said last week, we're going to take this on a game-by-game basis. Yeah.
So we have one game to go on in the playoffs. Busiest cat in Texas.

Speaker 3 I would say that Mike McCarthy did not really show up for this one either.

Speaker 1 Greg Olson did say we love Greg Olson. He's a great announcer, good friend of the show, but this was idiotic of him.
He said that people would be like calling Mike McCarthy right away to hire him.

Speaker 3 I think he said falling over themselves.

Speaker 1 Falling over themselves. I think there's going to be a little cooling off period with Mike McCarthy because this was a like you just can't look.

Speaker 1 They looked so bad, so bad on offense and defense. Couldn't run the ball.
They haven't been able to run the ball really all year.

Speaker 1 And the Packers just took it to them. Like they ran it down their throat.

Speaker 1 The Cowboys are the quintessential frontrunners.

Speaker 3 Yeah, build the offense around Jake Ferguson. Yeah.
And CeeDee Lamb.

Speaker 3 Although there was some people saying that CeeDee and Dak were mad at each other during this game, mad at each other going into the game. I don't know if I buy that.

Speaker 3 I feel like Dak just played poorly today.

Speaker 1 He played poorly.

Speaker 1 You know what he did?

Speaker 1 And I don't know if this is... I hope I'm not getting got, but the Louis Vuitton thing.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah. I've got the quote right here.

Speaker 1 That was so bad. Go ahead and give it to us.

Speaker 3 So Dak Prescott has set up...

Speaker 3 Dak Prescott has set up reminders for himself about reaching this year's Super Bowl. I've got a lot of Louis Vuitton stuff.
It's because of the LV is Las Vegas. If I look at my bag, it's all LV.

Speaker 3 Literally, I just went and got my girl a bag the other day. I'm like, the only one I'm getting is one of these ones with the LV logo on it.
That was an easy, simple reminder.

Speaker 3 So I think

Speaker 3 there's some Louis Vuitton bags that don't have LV on them.

Speaker 1 Either way, there was too much pressure in his house by the bags. Yeah.
He got like the bags were too much for him.

Speaker 3 He was just staring at reminders of how his season will be a disappointment if he doesn't make the Super Bowl

Speaker 1 all year long. Yeah, he should have gotten, I don't know, what's a brand that's WC, wild card,

Speaker 1 try to win the wild card once.

Speaker 9 And now he has to throw out all those bags.

Speaker 1 He has to throw them all out.

Speaker 9 Like, if you keep those bags, then you're the biggest fraud of all time. The only reason you got those bags is because they say Las Vegas.
Yes. Nothing to do with anything else.

Speaker 9 Give them to your brain. So

Speaker 9 they got to go anywhere else but your house. If he keeps those bags, he's the biggest fraud of all time.

Speaker 1 Also, shout out to our guy, Stink, Mark Schlerith, who called this all the way back in September when Jerry Jones traded for Trey Lance and didn't tell anyone.

Speaker 1 Stink said that that's not how you run an organization and that they suck.

Speaker 1 And he said back in September, oh, they may win a bunch of regular season games because they're talented, but they'll get in the playoffs and they'll shit in their helmets like they do every year.

Speaker 1 That's the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 Just a perfect quote. Stinks right.

Speaker 3 Stink was right.

Speaker 1 They'll shit in their helmets.

Speaker 1 Okay, so the important thing here. Hank, your Cowboys, you went down to Dallas.
You were so excited to get to Jerry's World, to see your Cowboys in action.

Speaker 1 Tell us,

Speaker 1 how did the game go from your point of view?

Speaker 5 I have never seen in person witness someone have the yips like Dak had the yips. Obviously, I wasn't watching the broadcast.
I was watching the game.

Speaker 5 The first interception was a terrible throw, and it was like you could, you know, we had good seats. You could see it happen in front of you.
And

Speaker 5 you could see he was telegraphing the pass. It was a bad throw.
Poorly thrown ball, got intercepted. And it was like, that was a bad throw.

Speaker 5 There was, he got sacked on the third down when he just didn't get rid of the ball. He held on to it for too long, got sacked.

Speaker 1 And it was like, he has the yips.

Speaker 5 Before he even threw the pick six, I was, you know, talking to the people around me. I was like, Dak has the yips.
He can't throw. Like, he literally cannot throw.

Speaker 5 The defense didn't show up, but Dak Prescott.

Speaker 5 He had the yips. There was no other way to describe it.

Speaker 5 After, like, after the interception and after watching him get sacked when like he had a bunch of opportunities to throw the ball ball away and he just held on to it and got sacked, it was like he doesn't like he doesn't know what's going on right now.

Speaker 3 Yeah, there was a look in

Speaker 3 there was a look on his face after the first pick where you could see him thinking, oh no, it's happening again.

Speaker 3 And then once you start thinking that way, then it's going to happen again and again and again.

Speaker 1 So what are you doing?

Speaker 5 He was missing. He was CD, Lamb dropped like he had that one drop early.
Like that was bad, Juju.

Speaker 5 But he was missing everything.

Speaker 5 It wasn't even like they were.

Speaker 5 it was never close. It was never close.
There was one holding call on Micah Parsons in that first Packers drive. That was like, how did they miss this call?

Speaker 5 But everything else, the Packers just shit on them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so how

Speaker 1 as a diehard Cowboys fan, what do you think the future of the team, what do they got to do?

Speaker 5 I think you got to get it rid of Dak. Okay.

Speaker 5 You can't pay Dak

Speaker 5 CD and Parsons.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 5 Got to get rid of Dak. You got to to get Bill Belichick in there.
Clean house. Let him run the show.

Speaker 5 And if they don't do that, I don't know.

Speaker 5 If they don't get Belichick, guys, I don't know if I can be a Cowboy.

Speaker 5 It was a tough. It was a tough.

Speaker 5 I was also like, not death threats, but I'm not going to say that Cowboys fans were the most welcoming to me.

Speaker 1 Oh. At the end of the game.
What happened?

Speaker 5 Like at halftime,

Speaker 1 people were...

Speaker 5 They weren't, they weren't nice. I'll tell you that.

Speaker 1 What were they saying? You were wearing a Dak jersey.

Speaker 5 I was wearing a Dak jersey, and they were like, dude, like, why are you here? Like, this is all your fault.

Speaker 1 I was like,

Speaker 3 did you remind me?

Speaker 3 The Cowboys have never lost a playoff game until Lockwood Guns.

Speaker 1 Did you also remind them that?

Speaker 5 You just stay in the Concourse, dude. That's what you did for the Patriots, right? And I was like, yeah.

Speaker 5 And so I did. I was like, all right, I'll try it.
And that didn't work either.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Did you remind them?

Speaker 5 It wasn't friendly.

Speaker 5 He was like, basically, like, he didn't block the entryway or like back to my seats, but he kind of like stepped in front of me and was like, you're staying in the concourse, right?

Speaker 1 And I was like, What do you mean?

Speaker 5 Like, that's what we did for the Patriots. And I was like, All right, yeah, I guess, yeah.
Like, I didn't, I didn't feel that way.

Speaker 5 I didn't, you know, the Patriots times I did it, it was, it was a feeling thing. It was like, I, you know,

Speaker 5 someone from above was speaking to me, being like, go on this concourse. I didn't get that feeling, but I felt obligated to because this guy basically like threatened me if I did.

Speaker 3 Wait, like, God, you're saying that God told you to stay on the concourse?

Speaker 5 Yeah, it was just like, it was just like, you got it, you gotta, you got, you know, see what happens if you go on this concourse and good things happen.

Speaker 1 So, Hank, I got something good for you for the Patriots Games. Not the not today.

Speaker 1 Our esports reporter, Darren Revelle, by the way, shout out Darren Revelle. I know MLK Day is a big day for him.
Hopefully, he can show us all his paraphernalia and collectibles. I like memorabilia.

Speaker 3 I like paraphernalia. It's paraphernalia.

Speaker 1 It's bonds.

Speaker 3 I got a bond signed by MLK.

Speaker 1 Oh, he does. He literally does.
He's like, look, I have this sheet that MLK

Speaker 1 signed his name so he could get his mail

Speaker 1 when he was arrested. He's like, look at this, guys.
Isn't this cool? Either way, yeah. So, Darren Ravel, let's see some of that stuff.
MLK Day, I know it's a big day for you. You have over nine?

Speaker 3 I think it's over nine.

Speaker 1 That's funny. On today of all days.

Speaker 3 Also, see, Big Cat's trying to be a hater on Ravel right now, but he's forgetting the fact that Ravel very clearly stated he has many black friends.

Speaker 1 Many black friends. On today of all days,

Speaker 1 either way, he did have a good scoop, our esports reporter. This will make you cheer you up,

Speaker 1 Hank. He tweeted, soon after Bill Belichick was let go from the Browns in 1996, he ran into Jerry Jones at a ski resort.
I can coach,

Speaker 1 Belichick told Jones. If you ever get an opportunity, don't forget about me.
Jones said on radio in 2019 that he often thought about that conversation.

Speaker 1 Also, Bill Belichick's single, so

Speaker 1 Jerry Jones and Bill Belichick just getting on the bus together, getting the scrippers up there.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's just going crazy.

Speaker 5 The thing that people aren't talking about, like, I was kind of talking to the people around me, and I said it.

Speaker 5 I kind of, it just hit me, and I said it, and then once the more you say it, the more you believe it. But, like, McDaniel's available too.

Speaker 1 Wait, what? Yeah. Oh, to bring in with Belichick?

Speaker 3 Yes. You don't mean as a head coach.

Speaker 1 You don't mean as a head coach.

Speaker 5 No, no. Belichick and McDaniels together.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Together. And

Speaker 1 you're back.

Speaker 3 And Bill O'Brien, probably too. And Dak Prescott.

Speaker 5 No, but like Bill O'Brien, like, but McDaniels and Belichick, like, they were dominant.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You can't deny that.

Speaker 3 It honestly wouldn't be the worst thing.

Speaker 5 Bill O'Brien was part of the coaching staff, but he was never like when he was offensive coordinator, he wasn't as good.

Speaker 5 82 and McDaniels, head coach, offensive coordinator, were literally like the greatest tandem in coaching history.

Speaker 3 It'd be so funny if they did that.

Speaker 1 They're both available.

Speaker 3 And they get to a Super Bowl. Jerry Jones has the money.
And then Josh McDaniels gets hired again as a head coach somewhere else.

Speaker 1 Yeah, someone would do that. That'd be awesome.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, Hank, we got some other important stuff we want to talk to you about.
So

Speaker 1 you went to the game with our friend Tiffany Gomez.

Speaker 1 How was that?

Speaker 5 It was fun.

Speaker 5 We had a good time.

Speaker 3 As a Cowboys fan, what's it like leaving in the third quarter?

Speaker 5 We actually stayed.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 5 I'm not going to call anyone out specifically.

Speaker 5 But we did, I'm sure we'll get into the pool thing. We did make the bet, and then Tiffany was like, if the Packers cover this on their own, I will also jump in the pool.

Speaker 5 So we stayed because we were like, maybe the Packers are going to get 54 points on their own.

Speaker 1 Right. Who left, though?

Speaker 5 After the game was over.

Speaker 3 You were about to say somebody left.

Speaker 5 No, we stayed. I'm saying we stayed.

Speaker 5 But, and I, you know, Cowboys fan diehard.

Speaker 5 We stayed and then pictures were like, we're like, let's take some pictures.

Speaker 5 And in my head, I was like, if I just watched the Patriots get fucking waxed, the last thing I would be doing is taking pictures.

Speaker 5 But there was a lot of pictures being taken by Cowboys fans down on the field after that performance, which was stunning.

Speaker 1 Well, it's Jerry World.

Speaker 1 You got to go see it.

Speaker 1 It was cool. Sometimes the stadium is bigger than the team.

Speaker 1 Okay, so

Speaker 1 this pool bet.

Speaker 5 We stayed for the whole game.

Speaker 1 So explain the pool bet for us.

Speaker 5 So we were in the game and Tiffany was her idea. She was like, we got to do a bet.
And I said, like, you know, she was like, what should we do? Like, it was, because it was, it was, it's 30 degrees.

Speaker 5 It's like, it's colder now. And obviously, growing up in Massachusetts, being in Chicago now, where it's way, way, way colder, you know, 25 degrees, it's cold, but it's not that cold.

Speaker 5 People in Dallas were freaking out. Like, Tiffany was like freaking out.
She's like, it's so cold.

Speaker 1 It's so cold. It's so cold.

Speaker 5 We should do a bet where one of us has to jump in the pool.

Speaker 5 And I've, you know, as you guys know, I've been doing the ice, ice, ice.

Speaker 5 Ice buckets, whatever you call them.

Speaker 3 Cold tubs?

Speaker 1 Ice buckets. Yep.
Cold tubs.

Speaker 5 So I was like, sure.

Speaker 3 Ice bucket challenge.

Speaker 5 Yeah, the ice bucket challenge every day. And I was like, let's do over-under.
But we kind of were talking about it.

Speaker 5 We didn't make it official until, I think it was after the Packers scored their second touchdown. So I just looked at whatever the live total was, which was 54.

Speaker 5 And I told her, I was like, pick over-under. Like, it's your choice.
The total is 54. You pick over, or pick whatever you want.
I'll take the opposite. And she picked over, obviously, that cat.

Speaker 1 There's 80 points scored, yeah.

Speaker 3 So she thought there would be a lot of scoring going on this weekend. You weren't quite so sure there would be as much scoring.

Speaker 5 Well, I just said whatever you take, I'll take the ops.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right, nice. So, so then the pool bet happens.

Speaker 3 So, you have to jump into the pool.

Speaker 1 Let's put the clip in, and I actually want to put it in for even podcast listeners because if you haven't seen the clip, this should make you go watch the clip because you won't get to see it if you're listening to this, but you'll get to hear it, and you have to go watch it.

Speaker 1 Hank jumps in this pool, and Hank, I got to say, so Max and PFT came running in, and they're like, You got to watch this video.

Speaker 1 I didn't know what was gonna happen, but the minute you said, I'm gonna run on hardwood floors with wet feet, I was like, Oh, I think I know where this is going, but then it's even a better plot to us.

Speaker 1 So let's play it.

Speaker 11 Cowboys, loss, everything lost over, it's hit.

Speaker 5 I want to die.

Speaker 1 It's 30, maybe it's 20 degrees in Dallas. This pool is probably colder.

Speaker 3 14. 14 degrees.

Speaker 1 Oh my god,

Speaker 1 So he's running.

Speaker 3 They're throwing towels on him.

Speaker 3 He's drying off his jeans.

Speaker 1 Here comes the problem. He's going on hardwood floors with wet feet.
Here he goes.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 And if you're listening to the podcast, like I said, go watch the video because that sound you just heard was Hanks slipping on the floor and his knee going into the drywall and putting the biggest dent.

Speaker 1 It looks like a frat boy after losing some beer pong just

Speaker 1 fists through the drywall. Hank, talk us through this moment, please.

Speaker 5 Yeah, you just watched the clip. As you can see,

Speaker 5 in my head, I was like, I'm going to dry off before I go

Speaker 5 inside.

Speaker 5 And Tiffany was behind me. She was like, just go, just go in.
She said that in the clip. She's like, just run in.

Speaker 5 So I was like, all right, I'm just going to sprint, get to the showers as quick as I can.

Speaker 5 And I didn't realize I'd hurt.

Speaker 5 And I think my scream got blocked by the sound of the wall because I thought I screamed pretty loud but and then I just ran into the shower after and I was in the shower and I was like did I did I actually fuck up the wall like and they're like oh yeah oh yeah

Speaker 5 my knee is pretty fucking sore

Speaker 5 and yeah it was it was

Speaker 1 It was

Speaker 1 I guess it was good.

Speaker 5 I don't know. It was

Speaker 5 content factor. It's an all-time

Speaker 1 all-time video. So I assume, being the gentleman you are, you've been plastering Tiffany's walls since then?

Speaker 5 Yeah, we're going to go to Home Depot tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Got it.

Speaker 1 Got it. Are you going to a little bit?

Speaker 4 Oh, by the way,

Speaker 5 my flight got canceled.

Speaker 1 Oh. Oh,

Speaker 1 I'm not even joking. Shit.

Speaker 1 You're going to be in Dallas till Tuesday. You're going to have to

Speaker 1 have no choice.

Speaker 3 You could do some caulk.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I could have thought about the wall.

Speaker 3 Have you thought about caulking your wall?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I don't know. We're going to take care of it.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 What was take care of it? Nice.

Speaker 3 Yeah. What did it feel like hitting Tiffany's back wall?

Speaker 5 It hurt. It hurt a lot.

Speaker 5 My knee is sore.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 My favorite part of the video, besides all of it, was after you hit the wall and then she's following you with the camera and then you just dip out.

Speaker 3 You just dip the fuck out because it looks like you realize what happened.

Speaker 3 It looks like you realize what happened and you were like, I'm just going to sprint to the bathroom and pretend this never happened and maybe just leave out the back door and then she won't see me ever again.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I actually didn't know that I said I got in the shower and I was like,

Speaker 5 is the wall actually fucked up? Is she mad at it? I obviously felt it, but I didn't know if there was like my knee just really hurt or if I actually put a hole in it.

Speaker 3 Is she mad? Is she upset with you?

Speaker 5 No, she's, I mean, she's probably still laughing.

Speaker 1 Like she's I mean, it was hilarious. It's a it's an all-time video.
It's the funniest thing that's ever happened. Hank, it's such a good video.

Speaker 1 I immediately texted Dave and i said that this is it was a milton hank move to have that happen that was a milton hank uh

Speaker 1 and he he hasn't replied he might have gone to bed i like contemplated calling him to be like you have to watch this video because it was so good and the remakes like i'm gonna watch this video i would say probably 500 more times it sounded so good in the next week like the remakes are great felt i think memes i think memes did the video because i said i was like i felt like i was doing a looney tunes like i i like yeah he did it slid i felt in the moment like i like slipped on my feet like 10 times oh memes immediately rushed to his computer and just started was fucking firing off remakes he's like i got i got five hours of work in front of me right now it's just so perfect so um

Speaker 1 hank last question for you um our investigative uh reporter uh jersey jerry did you see this tweet

Speaker 5 I did see this week.

Speaker 1 Okay, so our investigative reporter, Jersey Jerry, he's probably the best investigative reporter out there.

Speaker 1 He said, just doing some detective work, Henry, it seems to me like this is Ms. Gomez's recent emoji use.
So she posted a picture of her text conversation with her mother. And

Speaker 1 one of the emojis that's frequently used is the eggplant emoji. So Jerry was wondering, I'm not wondering.
PFT is not wondering.

Speaker 1 Jerry's wondering, can you confirm if this eggplant emoji was used in text with you?

Speaker 5 It was not used in text with me, now.

Speaker 1 Okay, okay,

Speaker 5 I don't know who it was, but it was not me.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 maybe two or friends being like, Hank's coming over,

Speaker 5 yeah. I just, I just know it wasn't me.

Speaker 3 Maybe that's maybe she just has you saved in her phone as the eggplant.

Speaker 5 Yeah, who knows?

Speaker 5 Jerry's on the case, though. I'm sure we'll find out.

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Speaker 1 Terms apply.

Speaker 1 Hank, how would you rate your experience in Dallas?

Speaker 5 My personal experience in Dallas was fantastic. 10 out of 10, great time.

Speaker 5 Experience as a Cowboys fan today,

Speaker 5 it tried me.

Speaker 5 I got to really think some things. If they don't get below, I think this might be it.
I'll say that.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well,

Speaker 5 they're fucking terrible. The Cowboys fans were not nice to me.

Speaker 5 And Dak Prescott's horrible. Like, literally is a quarterback that can't throw.

Speaker 5 He had the yips. Like, there was, he could not throw.
He could not throw. Every drive, it was like, this guy doesn't think he can make a completion.
And then he didn't.

Speaker 5 And then he threw like the pick six was bad. The first interception was bad.
It was, it was, it was stunning, stunning, stunning stuff to see. I don't know how Cowboys fans can get up for this team.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's, it's a rough year.
They need Belichick.

Speaker 5 And they do. They need McDaniels.

Speaker 3 And the beautiful thing about Cowboys fans is they do and they will continue to get up for this game.

Speaker 1 Every year.

Speaker 1 They're the best front runners in the world.

Speaker 3 Like Like in training camp next year, we're going to say exactly what's going to happen to the Cowboys, and they're going to be like, fuck you guys. Dallas is back.
Title Town.

Speaker 1 This year's different. You see what we did to the Giants? Yeah.

Speaker 3 And it's going to be awesome. And I'm going to love every second of it.

Speaker 3 Now, Hank, there was a report today that Arthur Blank's private jet flew up to Boston, and then it then flew, I believe, to the Virgin Islands, potentially Bill Belichick on an interview.

Speaker 3 So if Belichick goes to the Falcons, would you become a Falcons fan?

Speaker 1 No, not. I mean, not like

Speaker 5 I'm, it's the same as Brady and the Bucs. Like, whatever team Belichick coaches for, I will, they'll be my secondary team.

Speaker 1 If he becomes a Balcony, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Dallas.

Speaker 3 Secondary team to Dallas. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That'll be huge. Yeah, your secondary team to Dallas.

Speaker 5 It needs to be.

Speaker 5 If he goes to the Falcons, I'll root for Bill Belichick. If he goes to the Cowboys, I will be a fucking die-hard Cowboys.

Speaker 1 Well, you already are. You'll continue to be.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you'll you'll continue to be a diehard cowboys fan in fact if belichek goes yeah if belichek goes to the eagles i'm mandating it that you have to be a cowboys fan next year i'm i'm so happy this story arc has happened belich's not going to the eagles fuck the eagles

Speaker 1 i'm so happy this story arc has happened for you because

Speaker 1 you needed a yeah but you needed a full do you want to lose max or do you want belichek or do you want to win or you want belichek uh he thinks they could lose in the division

Speaker 9 I still fire Sir if they lose in the divisional round, I still think they fire Siriani.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he thinks that. But Hank, this story arc is so great.

Speaker 5 Would you rather make it to the NFC Championship or get Bill Belichick?

Speaker 9 NFC Championship.

Speaker 1 You needed a humbling. And becoming a diehard Cowboys fan has been a perfect humbling for you.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I was because I did.

Speaker 5 I guess this was after Thursday's show and we were talking about Belichick. And then I went home and I got more of my feels after the show Thursday night.

Speaker 5 I watched like a 28 to 3, like the one-hour-long recap where it's like most of the important plays, but it's still a long version of the game.

Speaker 5 And I was like, holy shit. And so when the Cowboys were down a lot, even at halftime, like 27 seconds,

Speaker 5 we can still come back. I was explaining it to the guy next to me who's a Cowboys fan, and he was like, dude, like, you're talking about Brady and Belichick.
Like, we're not doing this.

Speaker 1 I was like, oh,

Speaker 5 I was like, we get the ball back, we score three and out, score, then it's like, then it's 13 points, and there's plenty of time. Like, we're so in this.

Speaker 5 He's like, he told me point blank, he's like, this is not happening.

Speaker 1 No, it wasn't. No, it was never happening.

Speaker 5 That hit me. I was like, yeah, no, this isn't happening.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Well, I mean, if being humbled is getting invited to go down and spend a lovely weekend in Dallas, then I consider this a great humbling weekend for you.

Speaker 5 Yeah, and weekend slash week, because I don't like my, I went to check in for my flight. It was like, you can't check in till 605 a.m.
tomorrow meaning it's 605 a.m. Tuesday

Speaker 1 another night but it was booked for tomorrow morning good luck like yeah good luck Hank well Hank please please tell Tiff we say hello give our best I will yeah give her give her your best too

Speaker 5 I will give her your guys best.

Speaker 1 Okay. I appreciate that.
Yeah. Thanks, Hank.
But thank you, Hank, and thank you for reporting on scene in Dallas. I know how important it was for you to get down there for this game.
And I know that.

Speaker 5 Yeah, thank you guys for the opportunity.

Speaker 1 You hate the fact that your flight got delayed and that you won't be back for another day, but what are you going to do all day?

Speaker 1 God gives its toughest battles to its strongest warriors or whatever the hell that saying is.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 5 She's got a cool golf cart. I'll probably ride around on that.

Speaker 1 Okay. Video games.
Okay.

Speaker 5 Watch the bills. Yeah.
I went, if you want, if you want to feel bad for me, I put all my bets in before I left Chicago. Props, spreads, games, like

Speaker 5 13 bets between

Speaker 5 the Chiefs, Texans, Cowboys, Lions, 0-13.

Speaker 1 Really?

Speaker 5 Every single bet, like nothing. Every game spread, every game total, a bunch of props, a bunch of parlays,

Speaker 3 nothing. Hank, did I say that you signed the wall that you broke?

Speaker 3 Yeah. You autographed it?

Speaker 3 I did. As a sports business reporter, how can I get my hands on that?

Speaker 1 Her wall? You want to get it? Signed wall? Yeah, signed wall. We should sell that to Ravel.
Go trade for a lot of money.

Speaker 1 We'll trade it to him for the handcuffs that MLK was,

Speaker 1 you know, had when he was arrested or something.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I don't know, Jake. You might have to come down and carve it out yourself.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 You want to go carve out Tiff's wall?

Speaker 1 Maybe Hank can bring it back for me. Yeah, Hank will carve our wall.
Bring back a piece of that wall, Hank. No problem.
All right. Hank, thank you.

Speaker 5 All right. Miss you guys.
All right.

Speaker 1 Love you, Hank. Issue two.
We'll see you on Tuesday, maybe Wednesday. Who knows? These flights are fickle.
I'll let you know. All right, you're going to be able to do it.
Maybe never. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Maybe never. Oh, wait, wait.
Can we talk? I mean, yeah, he just started. Yeah, yeah.
He started. They stopped the recording.

Speaker 5 Southwest is crazy.

Speaker 1 Save it for Tuesday or your Firefest.

Speaker 5 I've never taken Southwest before. It's fucking crazy.

Speaker 3 Oh, the boarding process is wild. Wow, I love it.

Speaker 5 It's barbaric.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it is. Yeah.

Speaker 5 It's insane.

Speaker 1 All right. All right.
Bye, Hank. Good luck.
Okay.

Speaker 1 That was Henry Lockwood.

Speaker 1 Who knows when he's best? We may never see him.

Speaker 3 He's going to live down there. Easter, Texas.

Speaker 1 We may never see him again. All right.
Last game. Lions 24.
Rams 23. The Detroit Lions have done it.
First time in 32 years, winning a playoff game. They mentioned on the broadcast

Speaker 1 for the first time ever, Lions fans can text message each other saying, we just want a playoff game because text messages weren't invented until after the Lions' last playoff win.

Speaker 1 That was an awesome, awesome atmosphere. game, everything.
It was so, like, you could just feel the electricity watching it on TV.

Speaker 3 It felt like a college game at the start of it. It was so loud.

Speaker 1 So loud.

Speaker 3 Like, people were crying at the end of the game. So much emotion.
They booed the fuck out of Matt Stafford. Which I like.
I like it too. I like it too.

Speaker 3 Like, he kind of deserves to be booed in that situation. Yeah, it's not that.

Speaker 3 I don't think that they were necessarily saying, like, fuck you to Matt Stafford as much because most Lions fans will say like, we appreciate Matt Stafford and the way that he played when he was in town for such a long time.

Speaker 3 But it almost gave more of a statement to Jared Goff that like Jared Goff is our guy. We don't want Matt Stafford.
We want Jared. We chose chose him.

Speaker 1 It was also just, it's a simple, like, you're now in the playoff game. Matt Stafford is what's standing in front of you in winning a playoff game for the first time in 32 years.
You should boo him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't think it was a

Speaker 1 mean boo. It was just, you're the guy who's standing in front of us.
You're the guy who can stop us from winning this game.

Speaker 1 And it was a crazy game because the first half felt like neither team could ever get a stop, shootout. And then the second half, both teams made defensive adjustments and it grinded down.

Speaker 1 Puka Nakua was out of this world, good. Like,

Speaker 1 he's insane. He's in, I don't know what else to say.
Like, he could not be guarded. Every single time he caught a ball, he got yards after the catch.

Speaker 3 He's not afraid of getting fucked up.

Speaker 1 He got fucked up multiple times. Matt Safford got fucked up.
I can't believe Matt Safford didn't come out of that game with a concussion.

Speaker 3 Yeah, whatever the NFL's concussion check is,

Speaker 3 might need a little bit of work. Some people have said in the past that the NFL's concussion policy would have cleared JFK to re-enter the parade afterwards.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes.

Speaker 3 This is one of those situations because you could see his eyes roll up in the back of his head for a split second.

Speaker 3 Now, if I'm being generous, maybe, maybe Matt Stafford got the wind knocked out of him really hard and he was taking like a big gasp that like paralyzed his entire body. Maybe.

Speaker 3 But I think to everybody that watched on TV, we're like, get this guy out of the game. Keep him out of the game.
He's really, really badly hurt.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 But then we've seen that from Matt Stafford before. He's a tough motherfucker.
So he's crazy. He just insists on coming back in.

Speaker 3 But yeah, the Lions defense, Aiden Hutchinson, holy shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they stepped up. They made stops when they needed to make stops.

Speaker 1 I know there were some weird flag calls that people were asking for.

Speaker 1 I also think Sean McVay just like Sean McVay is an incredible coach, one of the best coaches in the league. He can't figure out clock management.
I don't know why they punted there with one timeout.

Speaker 1 I don't know how they got one timeout going to the last four minutes of the game, but punting there made no sense to me.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's a good lesson for every coach that five yards, what would you you rather have? Five yards in the third quarter? Yeah. Or would you have another timeout at the end of the game?

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. Like, don't get your play in.
Okay, fine. Take the penalty.
Yeah, it's five yards.

Speaker 3 But still, like, Sean McVay can find five yards behind his ear.

Speaker 1 I actually thought that Dan Campbell messed up by declining the penalty or accepting the penalty because I was like, now the Rams are going to go for it twice here.

Speaker 1 Never in my wildest dreams did I think that

Speaker 1 Sean McVay would punt with one timeout left.

Speaker 3 I think it was about the field goal play. I think they they didn't want to give up a field goal right then because then the Rams take the lead, right? So I think.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I know that, but I'm saying, like,

Speaker 1 it would have been a 51-yarder. The Rams have not been able to kick field goals all year.
And

Speaker 1 I thought that accepting the penalty, now the Rams are going to have two plays to get 14 yards or whatever it was. And they drop something underneath, get a few yards, then go for it on fourth down.

Speaker 1 I just

Speaker 1 never even had it enter in my brain that they would punt there. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I thought they were giving them two plays. Right.

Speaker 3 You could have even taken a field goal from the like 60-yard distance, 61-yard distance, and it would have been a better play than punting the ball there. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Because you ended up getting, what, like 30 yards of field position shifted.

Speaker 1 And you have one timeout? You have one timeout. And they get two first downs in the two-minute warning.
And they fucked up the two-minute warning by taking it after the two-minute warning.

Speaker 3 They did do that. Yeah, I agree.
I always say at the time, like, yes, accept the penalty because you need to knock them out of field goal range. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And you need to give your defense a chance to keep them out of field goal range, which they eventually up doing.

Speaker 3 But yeah, the timeouts and everything at the end of the game, it seemed like Dan Campbell was way more prepared for that type of stuff than Jeff McVay was.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just was texting with my good friend Detroit Don. I wanted to give him a call.
He said he's up.

Speaker 1 So let's just call him real quick for a quick boots on the ground how it was because he's a long-suffering Lions fan and he's season ticket holder. I love Detroit Don, the man.

Speaker 1 All right,

Speaker 1 give it to us. What was tonight like? Sum it up for us.

Speaker 11 Oh, my God.

Speaker 11 Listen, we're feeling on top of the earth right now. There is no question.

Speaker 11 The emotion in that place after that game ended,

Speaker 11 it's, you know, just 30 years of pent-up frustration just released, you know.

Speaker 1 I love it.

Speaker 1 Did you cry?

Speaker 11 Yeah,

Speaker 11 I'm not going to lie, there were tears, tears all throughout that building.

Speaker 1 What about Superfan? Did he cry?

Speaker 11 Superfan, I think, was trying to withhold, but I think behind no shades, there was some tears for sure.

Speaker 1 Strong men, strong men.

Speaker 3 So you get another home game, Detroit, Don. You're going to that one too, right?

Speaker 11 Oh,

Speaker 11 was it zero degrees when we walked out of the building today?

Speaker 1 Hell yeah, we're going to be there. Yeah.

Speaker 3 All right, who would you rather play? Philadelphia or Tampa Bay?

Speaker 11 You know what?

Speaker 11 Superfan and me were talking about that. We don't care.

Speaker 3 Yeah. That's the right answer.

Speaker 1 I love it.

Speaker 1 Did you boo Stafford?

Speaker 11 No, you know what?

Speaker 11 He didn't get a warm reception.

Speaker 11 Jared Goff, actually, the fans were chanting Jared Goff's name a couple different times in the pregame.

Speaker 11 And so it was pretty cool. Stafford didn't, he didn't get a lot of hatred,

Speaker 11 but

Speaker 11 they didn't cheer him at all.

Speaker 11 And I saw Stafford's post-game comments. I don't know if you guys saw that.
What'd he say?

Speaker 11 He's kind of dicky.

Speaker 11 They asked him, they said Sean McVay, they were talking, they were interviewing Stafford, but they said Sean McVay had just been up at the podium and said, you know, he was

Speaker 11 happy for, you know, golf. And, you know, he's his old quarterback in this setting.
And they asked Stafford what he, you know,

Speaker 11 if he was happy for Detroit.

Speaker 11 And

Speaker 11 he was very short answered and says he was happy for the players. Oh.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 11 So Yeah, it was, it was, it was not pretty.

Speaker 1 Well, you guys have a tough ass team, and I'm happy for you, man. I know how, you know, you're division rivals, but like there's something about sports, 32 years, it's, it's fucking cool.

Speaker 1 Grown men crying. I love it.

Speaker 11 I appreciate that, man. And you've been down there with us in the hard times.

Speaker 11 Hey, listen, let me tell you, this girl that just disappeared, like, she was a season ticket holder right behind us, and she just, she just appeared today at the game, and we were like, where the hell?

Speaker 11 We call her Sprinkles.

Speaker 1 We were like, Where the hell have you been at, Sprinkles?

Speaker 11 She says, If you guys remember, on the Hail Mary pass, she says, I will not come back to another game till we make the playoffs. Oh,

Speaker 1 she showed up.

Speaker 1 That was the first time you'd seen Sprinkles since that game I went to.

Speaker 11 Yeah, and so she even said, She says, Yeah, we were all in that bar school, that bar stools video.

Speaker 11 She says, Yeah, we didn't really, you just like disappeared for like years, you know, and we kind of forgot about her a little bit. I'm not gonna lie, but Sprinkles showed up at the game.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 that's awesome.

Speaker 11 She was a slobbing, sobbering mess at the end of that game.

Speaker 1 It was really cool.

Speaker 3 She's had season tickets since then and just hasn't shown up.

Speaker 11 No, she must sell them or give them to family refresher.

Speaker 1 You never really thought about her after that, you know.

Speaker 1 Oh my god, it's like a family reunion seeing Sprinkles. You thought she was gone forever.

Speaker 11 It was crazy. Well, you know, Tin Man that

Speaker 11 sits next to me that's all silver-faced and all that. When he came down and saw her, he was like, he was like a ghost when he saw her.

Speaker 11 We were all shocked when we were down there.

Speaker 11 She was just sitting there, you know?

Speaker 1 Oh, that's great. Well, Don, thank you so much.
Congrats again, man. We're happy for you guys.
We know how long of a road it's been. And good luck next week.

Speaker 11 Thank you, buddy. I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 All right. Talk soon, man.
Hey, by the way, you're going. I don't know if you saw, but PFT and I said that if the Lions go to the Super Bowl, you guys are going.

Speaker 11 Hey,

Speaker 11 that's awesome. Yeah.
Let's just keep going. Let's keep this train rolling.

Speaker 1 Yes, I love it. All right, see ya.
See you, big guy. All right,

Speaker 1 Sprinkles. That's incredible.
Yeah, shout out Sprinkles.

Speaker 3 Nothing like having a grudge and staying committed to it.

Speaker 1 This part of the Lions Stadium is the funniest part in the world because it's all these season ticket holders that all dress up like Tin Man. You heard him say that.

Speaker 1 And they're just, they're the most die-hard people in the world. And that's so great.
Sprinkles. I'm not coming back.
And then just showing up. They probably thought she died.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 I just, I feel

Speaker 1 like secondhand happiness for all of Detroit. Yeah.
Right? That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 If you can't get behind Detroit Lions winning a playoff game, your heart's dead. It's cold.
It's black. It's rotten.
Unless you're a Rams fan, in which case I understand.

Speaker 3 But I mean, this is like, it's a transcendent moment in sports. Getting to see like the collective weight of the world getting lifted off of an entire city.

Speaker 1 It's, it's, you know, the Lions are in the Bears division. I don't like the Lions.
I want to beat the Lions every time I play them.

Speaker 1 But if you can't be happy for sports fans and also just be like, that's what it's all about.

Speaker 1 You watch sports, you give all your energy, you give your time, your money, everything to have these type of moments, to have these type of nights where like the 32 years of suffering all kind of wash away.

Speaker 1 And I know it's just one win.

Speaker 1 They got to keep going. And I would say all Lions fans are like, we got to win a Super Bowl.
But having that first step has to be the best feeling in the world.

Speaker 1 And it's like, if you can't be happy for that, then you're not a sports fan. Yeah.
You just can't, you can't, like,

Speaker 1 you shouldn't watch sports if you can't just, like, remove yourself for a second and be like, what they just experienced tonight is what every sports fan should want to experience.

Speaker 1 And it's cool to watch. It's what makes sports great.

Speaker 3 And the fact that Dan Campbell was the coach to do it, it's a perfect fit. It is.
It's such a good fit. He was on the ON16 team.
Now he's your coach.

Speaker 3 And I read a tweet from a friend, Isaac, who's up in Detroit. And he said that when Dan Campbell got the job, he spent, I think, a day or two calling long-suffering Lions fans.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they did a contest and he won it.

Speaker 3 And just telling them what he was going to do, how much their fandom was appreciated by the team, how he understands the pain that they've been through, what they're looking for.

Speaker 3 It's just a great story. It's a guy that, like, he has embraced Detroit.
Detroit's embraced him. And, like, sometimes being just a tough-ass dude is what a city needs to get over that huge, huge hump.

Speaker 1 He was on the 0-16 Lions.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and going back to hard knocks, when we were like, Yeah, I'm all in on Dan Campbell to the slow start that they had right afterwards, but just him crying at the podium, all of it, the entire story of the Detroit Lions, and specifically the Dan Campbell era of the Detroit Lions has been such a cool story to watch, and I hope it doesn't stop.

Speaker 3 I hope they keep winning. I would love nothing more than to see the Lions in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 It's also kind of back to what I was talking about with the big flip with Michigan fans who are having a hell of a week, Michigan Wolverine fans and Lion fans. Like,

Speaker 1 the whole reason, even in the darkest time of whatever

Speaker 1 fan base you're a part of, whatever team you're rooting for, the whole reason you stick with them is because you feel like this type of moment could happen at any point. Yeah.
And it happened.

Speaker 1 So it's like, this is awesome. This is great for them.
It finally happened.

Speaker 1 You tell all those times when you have terrible teams or you have terrible losses, you get in the car after and you're like, someday it's going to flip. Someday we're going to win a big game.

Speaker 1 Someday we're going to have a moment of like pure joy and you know sports happiness and they got it tonight and you just it's awesome i'm happy for detroit town i'm happy for sprinkles shout out sprinkles coming back what a story what do you think sprinkles outfit is uh glitter probably a shitload of glitter yeah i also like the idea of the tin man looking like he's seen a ghost yeah so

Speaker 1 that's right behind you that was the game her last game right yeah she was probably right right over there it's it's the whole yeah that's the last game i still i mean it's still like the the luckiest uh barstool video I've ever done where if you haven't seen the original videos, Detroit Don and Superfan got kicked out of a game for standing on defense

Speaker 1 on the third down.

Speaker 1 And maybe they were doing other things, but whatever. They were standing on defense.
That's what they're saying.

Speaker 1 So they did a press conference, just the two of them, in front of like a brick background like somewhere in Detroit, just disgusted that they got kicked out.

Speaker 1 And Superfan has a tattoo of their season tickets, like the seat number and the row number.

Speaker 1 And I was in Detroit for the MAC championship, which was on Friday, and the Lions and the Packers were playing on Thursday night, and I hate Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 I was like, fuck it, I'm just going to go try to beat Aaron Rodgers with these guys. Bought the ticket next to him, did not talk to him.
They showed up, and it was me and Gaz.

Speaker 1 And I was just like, hey, like, I hate the Packers.

Speaker 1 Can we watch this game with you? And they're like, fuck yeah. And then Aaron Rodgers threw a Hail Mary right in our face and their soul came out of their body.
And Sprinkles retired for six years.

Speaker 1 But it was one of the luckiest barstool videos I've ever been able to be a part of because to be able to get a ticket right next to them, have them do a thing where they say their season tickets, get a ticket right next to them, happen to be in Detroit for the Mac championship, and then have a Hail Mary happen right in their face.

Speaker 1 Man, I'm just happy for Lions fans. I hope they suck next year because I hope the Bears are better.
But right now, fuck it. I'm happy for Lions fans.

Speaker 3 Yeah. And I hope you win next weekend.
I hope you win the weekend after that. I hope you win the Super Bowl.
Yeah. It'd be incredible.
It'd be a hell of a story.

Speaker 3 You see the Dream Blunt rotation before the game?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 3 It was Barry Sanders, Eminem, I think Big Sean. There was somebody else there.
They had like all the stars down there. Oh, Calvin Johnson came back.

Speaker 3 So they saw his reply to the tweet, and they're like, Calvin Johnson, come back for the playoff game. It's just cool seeing Detroit like that.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It really is.
Yeah, they're passionate sports fans, and they've been kicked down a bunch.

Speaker 1 And yeah,

Speaker 1 this was also like the Lions, especially in that first half, they just played man football. They just ran it down their throat, play action.
Like, they were hitting everything.

Speaker 1 I know that it was tough in the second half, but they eked out the win.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and Detroit had, I think, a pretty reasonable complaint against the refs on that false start that they called, where they should have extended that drive. That should have been a first down.

Speaker 3 But then almost immediately right after that, they had the pass interference that wasn't called on the Rams.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Puka got his jersey tugged at the end of the game.

Speaker 3 So ultimately, I don't think that this would be a blame-it on the refs game, but you ended up overcoming it anyway, so it doesn't matter. It's just a good time.

Speaker 3 Good time to be a sportsman because you look at it and you're like, that's going to be me one day. Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying. You can't see yourself.
If your team stinks and you can't see yourself in what Lions fans are going through today, then like, give up. Yep.

Speaker 1 Because that's the hope at the end of the tunnel.

Speaker 1 Okay, so perfect segue because the Lions, it is the ultimate ball-don't lie moment. The Lions win this game.
The Cowboys lose. The Lions do get their second playoff game.

Speaker 1 at home, which was what they were basically robbed of when the refs fucked up in Dallas a couple weeks ago. So now the Lions are going to host the winner of the Bucs and the Eagles.

Speaker 1 A game we have not previewed.

Speaker 1 Max?

Speaker 9 Mr. Cat.

Speaker 1 Go ahead.

Speaker 9 What do you want me to say?

Speaker 1 Whatever you're feeling. This is the preview.
You said, let's do it on Monday. Sunday.
Let's do it on Sunday.

Speaker 9 I'm going to start with this.

Speaker 1 Actually, I'll start with this. Okay, you can start with that.
Okay.

Speaker 1 You start with this. Let's see.
Let's find this. What was it?

Speaker 9 Quez Watkins and this is such a weird thing that you're obsessed with.

Speaker 1 I'm not obsessed with it at all. I saw it and I was like, what is going on? It was a weird, it's a weird thing.

Speaker 9 It's something that every single team is.

Speaker 1 Okay, ready PFT?

Speaker 1 I don't know what it is, so I'll learn it. It's totally weird.

Speaker 3 Let me turn your mic.

Speaker 1 Quez Watkins says Jalen Hurts texted him. When that phone rings, be ready to answer.
Quez says he texted him back, shit, I've been ready. Quez, that's our mindset.

Speaker 1 He's got trust in me to go make plays, and and I'm going to go do that. Why didn't he just call him then? What?

Speaker 3 He texted him.

Speaker 3 Because the phone wasn't supposed to ring then.

Speaker 1 But he's saying, be ready for my phone call.

Speaker 3 No, he's saying when the phone rings, like greatness on the other end. Got it.
When greatness is calling, don't be afraid to pick up the call.

Speaker 1 Shit, I've been ready.

Speaker 9 Yeah, it's next man up. It's just another way of saying that.
Are you saying that he's hurt?

Speaker 3 Are you saying that Jillon? No, I'm saying A.J.

Speaker 9 Brown is hurt.

Speaker 1 But it sounds like they're just on text message. Like, you like, I wouldn't call someone.
I just text them. So is he going to text them and he's going to be ready?

Speaker 9 I mean, you guys are looking way too much into the wording of this.

Speaker 3 I think it's weirder that this got out.

Speaker 1 Well, Quez Watkins said it. I know, but that's.

Speaker 9 It's not.

Speaker 3 It's not private text message. It's just not news.
Sounds like it's.

Speaker 1 It's a quarterback.

Speaker 1 I'm reading it off a news site.

Speaker 9 It's a quarterback. Yes, that's because everything is news because it's NFL playoffs and they're looking for everything to talk about.

Speaker 1 I think Quez was just a quarterback.

Speaker 3 Ques was just trying to brag that Jalen Hurts had his number.

Speaker 1 But shouldn't have Jalen Hurts called Quez Watkins and be like, hey, next time I call, be ready. No one calls under the age of 38.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 That's why he should have said, when the text message comes, be ready. And he'd be like, shit, I've been ready.
Okay.

Speaker 1 This is great. Brilliant.

Speaker 1 It's the dumbest story in quote, but it bothered Max so bad when I brought it up that I had to say. Well, no, well,

Speaker 9 you were like, what's the deal with that

Speaker 9 Quez Watkins quote? I'm like, what? Yeah, a quarterback telling a backup to be ready when the starters.

Speaker 1 No, he texted him.

Speaker 3 That would actually concern me more given Jalen Hurts' finger injuries.

Speaker 3 I don't want my quarterback texting a guy.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I just feel like

Speaker 1 texting someone being like, I'm going to call. Just call.

Speaker 9 It was a metaphor.

Speaker 1 Oh, but it was used on a real phone. You got it.
Who cares?

Speaker 9 This is the worst. This is the worst pre-game analysis.

Speaker 3 You know what? Max always says that when we're making really good points. This is really good points.

Speaker 3 No, no, you always interrupt the best parts and part of my take to be like, this is stupid.

Speaker 1 And now Quez Watkins has to sit there and be waiting for a call?

Speaker 1 You got a text saying he's ready for the call.

Speaker 3 Don't you see how great this segment is, Max?

Speaker 9 I hate you.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I have a quote here.

Speaker 3 Jalen Hurts says that he hasn't thrown a football since injuring his finger on Sunday. He acknowledges that going back into the game was a bad idea physically and the pain hurt more last week.

Speaker 3 He said, everything is a challenge when you have a finger out of place.

Speaker 9 What day was that quote?

Speaker 3 That was last Thursday, last Friday.

Speaker 9 I think he threw a little bit on Friday.

Speaker 3 He threw over the weekend?

Speaker 9 I think he threw. Well, they practiced on Friday.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 Are you concerned about his finger, especially given his significant downturn in completion percentage, completions, attempts, yards per attempt, passing touchdowns, increase in interceptions, deep throws, and turnover-worthy plays when it's raining?

Speaker 9 Yes.

Speaker 3 You are concerned?

Speaker 9 The answer is yes. I'm concerned about his finger.

Speaker 1 Okay, so A.J. Brown out.
He decided he wanted to go to a boxing match instead?

Speaker 3 Atlantic City. He wanted to go to A.C.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 9 I don't know. I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 1 What's up with that?

Speaker 1 Sounds like he's not ready for a call.

Speaker 9 No, he is. He said he'll be back.
If the Eagles advance, he would be back for the divisional round.

Speaker 1 Is that not weird that he's not going to the game?

Speaker 9 He could be going to the game. He's probably just not.

Speaker 1 The game's not until Monday night. Oh, okay.
He was just...

Speaker 3 Okay. When was he in Atlantic City? Was that Saturday? It was Friday night.
Oh, it was Friday night. Okay.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Off-night.
I think so.

Speaker 3 I think it was Friday night. Watching Sam Laporta play on his fucked-up knee tonight.
Were you like, why isn't A.J. Brown playing?

Speaker 1 Yes. Okay.

Speaker 9 But, you know, every injury is different. I'm not going to judge.

Speaker 3 We should actually just pause for a second and give Sam Laporta a shitload of credit for playing on that because

Speaker 3 if you saw the injury that happened to him last week, you thought your first reaction was ACL, MCL, PCL out for a long time.

Speaker 3 It's insane that he was playing, but he also had like the biggest knee brace that I've ever seen covering his knee. We should also give credit to the moon.
We forgot to do that. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Moon came through again.

Speaker 3 The waxing crescent.

Speaker 3 I'm pulling up the stat right now.

Speaker 3 The moon was a waxing crescent the last time the Lions won a playoff game. The moon on Sunday will be a waxing crescent.
It was a waxing crescent. Detroit Lions win again.

Speaker 3 And Detroit Lions' official Twitter account says wax on.

Speaker 3 So we'll have to do a moon update for next week and see what's going on with that. But the Eagles, Max, Tampa Bay, you guys should kill the Buccaneers.

Speaker 9 Incorrect. It's a three-point line.

Speaker 9 Your favorites. We are favorites.
Road favorites. Which is an

Speaker 9 interesting number. I think that they shouldn't be.
The fact that A.J. Brown was ruled out and it went from two and a half to three is interesting.

Speaker 1 Hmm.

Speaker 8 Well, Baker's banged up, too, right?

Speaker 1 Wait, but Quez Watkins get the call, though. But did you factor in the correct?

Speaker 9 Right, right.

Speaker 1 I forgot about the call.

Speaker 9 I will say this.

Speaker 9 The Cowboys losing has changed everything.

Speaker 1 You are so happy today.

Speaker 9 It has changed everything. The entire vibe of Philadelphia.

Speaker 1 It's because your rival lost. Correct.
Okay.

Speaker 9 I would love for you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I wanted the Packers.

Speaker 1 I kept on saying when the Cowboys, as fun as it was to watch the Cowboys lose, I kept on being like, now's the time I want the Cowboys to come back and win because that would be so awesome if the Packers lost.

Speaker 3 They lost in such hilarious fashion, too.

Speaker 1 I know, but it would have been even more hilarious fashion on a Packers loss if they lost when they were up like 28. Right.
I was rooting.

Speaker 1 I was saying that in the gambling game to everyone's like, nah, let's watch the Cowboys. I understand.

Speaker 1 It was one of those situations where I got outweighed there. There was a lot of, you know, Cowboys haters that wanted to see them die.
I stepped aside. But yeah, no, you're right.

Speaker 9 And it also, like,

Speaker 9 nothing the Eagles can do tomorrow is worse than what the Cowboys did today.

Speaker 1 That's loser talk.

Speaker 9 No, it's not. And actually, I'm saying that more of like a lot of pressure has been taken off out of that lock.

Speaker 3 I don't know if that's the case.

Speaker 9 That is the case.

Speaker 3 Because Dallas was so bad, then that's weird. That is weird.

Speaker 1 That's weird, Max. That is weird, Max.
That's weirder than the Quez Watkins call. No, it's not.

Speaker 3 That's very weird, Max. So

Speaker 1 you think they're going to play free now that the Cowboys lost?

Speaker 3 Yes. Let me tell you this, Max.

Speaker 1 The Eagles were the laughingstock of the entire league for the last four weeks. The players took the Cowboys just told that the Cowboys lost.

Speaker 9 You are so wrong if you don't think

Speaker 9 the players care about it.

Speaker 3 You think that the Eagles watch the Cowboys lose and they're like, oh, thank God. Now people don't talk shit about us.

Speaker 9 They're not going to say it out loud, but

Speaker 9 inside of their head, yes.

Speaker 3 I don't like where your head's at.

Speaker 1 So you need the Steelers to wait.

Speaker 3 No, you're not ready for this game. You guys don't.

Speaker 9 Like, you're creative if you don't think that.

Speaker 1 You're not ready for this game to play off. You're not going to win.
I'm a moral victory. I think you're talking about what

Speaker 1 the fans feel, not what the players feel.

Speaker 9 That also goes into it.

Speaker 9 I mean, there is a lot of bad shit that has been going on in that locker room for the past couple of weeks. And the Eagles have been the laughing stock of the league for the past five weeks.

Speaker 9 That is a fact.

Speaker 3 They had a very weird hype video that the team put out. Yes,

Speaker 9 there is a bad juju that has been going on in that locker room and in the city of Philadelphia for five weeks now.

Speaker 3 The hype video that they put out with Jason Kelsey and he does the narration of it and he starts it out by saying like, we're very frustrated. You're frustrated.

Speaker 3 It was like the most downer hype video ever.

Speaker 9 Yes. Yeah, but it was like the most real hype video ever because if they did anything else, it would have come off as like, what the fuck are they doing?

Speaker 9 Because they read the vibe of the entire city and were like, we have to acknowledge what is going on here or else everyone will come after us and be like, this is not what we want to see right now.

Speaker 1 Right. So

Speaker 1 you feel good going into this game. No.

Speaker 1 I don't.

Speaker 1 Take off the headphones for a sec.

Speaker 1 I want to talk to the listeners. Please take off the headphones.
Can you hear me right now?

Speaker 1 Jake?

Speaker 1 Can you guys hear me?

Speaker 1 You can?

Speaker 9 I mean, I'm editing the show. I'm going to hear this.

Speaker 1 Okay. For the listeners, the way this is set up now, we need the Eagles to win.
And we need the Eagles to win because Max said something.

Speaker 1 He slipped up on the walk to the studio from the gambling cave. We do a little walk.
It's kind of like the NBA when they enter the arena. We all have music and

Speaker 3 we walk.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, we get our fits off. Max said,

Speaker 1 We can beat the Lions. The Lions just won their Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 So we need the Eagles to win because Max will be all the way back in. If the Eagles had had to play the 49ers next week, Max would have been like, whatever, we're going to slaughter.

Speaker 1 It doesn't matter. We win, we lose, who cares? Now,

Speaker 1 he is so close to being all the way back in. And if he's all the way back in, he is so close to getting sad, depressed Max sitting on this couch while we laugh at him.

Speaker 3 He also was saying that he Way would rather play the Lions than the Rams.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 9 Not Way. But

Speaker 9 I heard everything you just said, and I don't care about saying it. If the Eagles win, I don't think that the Eagles are going to win tomorrow because, number one, they're very banged up.

Speaker 9 They haven't looked good in the past five weeks.

Speaker 1 What about the Cowboys losing?

Speaker 9 There's nothing. No.
There's nothing to do with the... What about Todd Bowles?

Speaker 3 You're going up against Todd Bowles.

Speaker 9 There's nothing to point to the fact that the Eagles are going to win tomorrow. There's no

Speaker 9 factors that are in that are.

Speaker 1 What about the phone call?

Speaker 1 What about the fact that you got a better roster?

Speaker 9 Jalen Carter. I don't even know if that's ⁇ with all the injuries, I don't even know if that's true right now.

Speaker 3 What about the hype video?

Speaker 1 Is Darius Lay video?

Speaker 9 Darius Slay is back. That's Ray Lewis.
But A.J. Brown is out.
Right. And Jalen Hurts is playing with one hand.

Speaker 1 He's Devontae Smith back.

Speaker 3 He's a throwing hand. That's not good.

Speaker 1 Devontae Smith back?

Speaker 9 Devontae Smith is back. Oh.

Speaker 1 However,

Speaker 9 I am not scared to say that. If they do win tomorrow and look

Speaker 9 competent doing so, I will be all the way back.

Speaker 1 Oh, so we need it. So, everyone needs it.
We're going to be streaming.

Speaker 9 But I'm expecting them to lose, and when they lose, it's Fire Siriani and everything else that I have been saying.

Speaker 9 But I'm not scared to say that if they win tomorrow and look competent to doing so, I'm all the way back.

Speaker 1 And then all you have to do is win one game in two days. Because A.J.

Speaker 9 Brown has said he'll be back for the game. He would be back for the divisional game.
Reed Blankenship will be back for the divisional game. Reed Blankenship is still day-to-day for

Speaker 9 game time decision for tomorrow.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 9 the Lions just won their Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 What about you beat the Lions next week?

Speaker 1 And then we'll just get crushed by the Niners.

Speaker 3 And then the Packers beat the Niners and then NFC Championship at the Link.

Speaker 3 Think about that.

Speaker 9 I'm not worried about that. I'm worried about.

Speaker 9 I'm very worried about beating the Bucs tomorrow.

Speaker 9 If I had to choose, with my life on the line, I think the Eagles lose tomorrow.

Speaker 3 But

Speaker 9 the future

Speaker 9 of the playoffs will change for me if they win.

Speaker 3 So, did this game become a must-win? Yes. It turned.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, it's

Speaker 9 because if they lose, then

Speaker 9 I'm like, okay, Sirianni sucks to blow up the team, bring in Belichick,

Speaker 9 make Hank's life a living hell.

Speaker 3 That would be the best.

Speaker 9 Yeah, so like...

Speaker 3 It would be the best if you got Belichick.

Speaker 9 I'm just saying,

Speaker 9 my number one is like, now I really want to win tomorrow.

Speaker 9 But I can be talked into like, oh, yeah, they were never going to win that game.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 9 But if they do win tomorrow and look competent doing so, I'm all the way back. And I'm telling everyone that right now,

Speaker 9 it's sad that I'm thinking that, and people are going to be like, oh, Max, you're such an idiot. Like, this team sucks.
You know, this team sucks. And I do know this team sucks.

Speaker 9 But they are giving me a chance that if they win tomorrow, it's like,

Speaker 9 they don't have to go to San Francisco anymore.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think you guys.

Speaker 1 I don't think that.

Speaker 1 I think Baker Mayfield's injuries are a little bit more more than we realize.

Speaker 1 He's not more than Jalen Hurts. But he looked bad in the Panthers game.

Speaker 1 Pressure up the middle, Jalen Carter.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 9 No, I mean,

Speaker 9 the team has played very bad.

Speaker 1 See how quickly I got him back in? And he's like, yeah. Wait, no.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 9 I don't know. I know the game's going to start tomorrow.
I'm going to be like, we're going to. Stephen Che.
That's the other thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, you're up against.

Speaker 9 I'm up against the worst.

Speaker 1 He's a mental assassin. He's been called a mental assassin.
He's a mental assassin.

Speaker 1 There's no one like him.

Speaker 9 I'm just more excited for the game tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.

Speaker 1 Now you're more excited. So now we're building him back.

Speaker 3 I think you're going to smoke him.

Speaker 9 I don't.

Speaker 9 I still think it's a gun to my head if I choose, like, they are going to lose. They are not a good football team right now.

Speaker 1 But if they look all right, like, there's a path.

Speaker 9 The path is opened. Okay.
There was no path.

Speaker 9 There is a path now. There is a path.

Speaker 1 But I still think that they're going to lose to me. There is a path now.
All right. So last thing before we get to who's back of the week.
So tune into our stream tomorrow night.

Speaker 1 I think I'm going to bet the Eagles. I don't.
I'm on the Eagles. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I just think the Bucs have beaten a lot of NFC South teams that

Speaker 3 I don't know. Neither team's very good.

Speaker 1 No, neither team is good. So

Speaker 1 here's what it is.

Speaker 1 Whichever team loses, if you bet on that team, you're going to feel extra dumb because it will just confirm, oh, yeah, that team wasn't good.

Speaker 1 And then whatever team wins, you'll be like, ooh, maybe they got something. That's just really how it's going to go.

Speaker 1 We're going to walk away. If the Eagles beat the Bucks, we'll be like, the Bucs were never good.
And if the Bucs beat the Eagles, be like, the Eagles all-time collapse, they stink.

Speaker 8 That's going to be it. From October, from Big Cat, Jake, if the Bucs make the playoffs, tell me to bet against them.
Okay.

Speaker 3 Then I will. That's the Todd Bulls factor.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
I will. I will be doing so.

Speaker 1 Okay. Last thing.
The Bills Steelers game is on Monday afternoon. People were very upset about this.
They moved it for weather.

Speaker 1 I feel like most people understand at this point that it's not, because when it first happened, there was a lot of people who were very upset.

Speaker 1 And I get being upset that you wanted to see a weird weather game because we all want to see weird weather games. I'm pretty sure they canceled the game or moved the game because of.

Speaker 1 People getting to the stadium is the problem. Yes.
Not the actual players playing in the game. Correct, correct.
Right.

Speaker 3 It had nothing to do with the players. Maybe a little bit to do with the fans in the stadium, but it was mostly the snow on the highways.
Was there like a stay-at-home order?

Speaker 1 There was a travel ban starting at 9 p.m. on Saturday night.
I think it went all the way through Sunday.

Speaker 1 Also, Buffalo is one of the weirdest weather cities like ever in that you could be standing in Buffalo and it could be sunny and you could be standing in Orchard Park and it could be like, you know, hell has frozen over.

Speaker 1 It's the lake. Yeah.
Lake of the year. Lake effect is crazy.

Speaker 1 Also, people were very mad at me that that I pointed out it is a federal holiday on Monday. We're still working.

Speaker 1 A lot of people do work. A lot of people don't work on MLK Day.
Yeah. It's like I looked it up.

Speaker 3 It was 50-50. Somebody said, it might have been Che that said maybe they're going to do this every year.
I don't think so. And I don't think they are because

Speaker 3 the NFL would like to get ratings. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And games on Sunday

Speaker 3 get probably four times as many ratings

Speaker 3 in the middle of the day on Monday.

Speaker 1 And I know that we have the best job in the world, so it's like I was like bonus football. And there are people who have to work.
There's also people who have to work on Sundays.

Speaker 1 There's people who have to work on Sundays. There's people who have to work on Mondays.

Speaker 1 It's called pre-Is I just had a bunch of people replying to me about their own personal situation being like, I have to work, so it's bullshit. And then other people being like, I don't have to work.

Speaker 1 This is awesome. Again, I think it's probably 50-50.
Also, it starts at 4.30, and you can stream every game from your phone now.

Speaker 1 So if you've got to just steal from your boss, steal from your boss and watch the game on your phone.

Speaker 3 Like, it actually sucks the worst for Steelers because the Steelers, I would think that in a weird weather game, that would help them out way more than that.

Speaker 1 Steelers fans were very upset. Yeah, it felt like targeted towards them.
Yeah, targeted towards them.

Speaker 3 Because if there's a way the Steelers are going to win, it could be a 13-10 game played in the snow. Right.
That, to me, feels like something that could very likely happen.

Speaker 3 But yeah, I guess they told people to stay at home because if you go out in that weather and you get covered by the snow, you get stuck, then they can't have people that go out and rescue you.

Speaker 3 Correct. Like, it's very hard to get to you on the highway.
So they're like, no, stay at home, and then we'll do the game on Monday. Hopefully the lake will calm down.

Speaker 1 It's an interesting dynamic when people are like, the governor shouldn't have anything to do with this and get the government out of this.

Speaker 1 And then, if they got stuck on the side of the highway, they would have to call first responders to help them.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I wish that Cuomo was still the governor and he gave one of his PowerPoint press conferences. Was his nipple ring?

Speaker 1 His nipple ring protruding?

Speaker 3 Disgusting.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, it sucked because I was, you know, Sunday came around, I was like, ready for three games of football.

Speaker 1 But I also understand that if it's like people could potentially be stranded in their cars and like

Speaker 1 first responders could be taxed where you have people who have emergencies who can't be reached because of the stadium,

Speaker 1 whatever. We'll get through it.
They're still going to play the game.

Speaker 3 It was funny that they had Bills fans come out to help shovel snow in the stadium and then they turned it into like an open-air amusement park.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Bill's Mafia.

Speaker 3 They were sliding down the poles and shit. It was great.
It was like, it reminded me of when they do bark at the park. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Or when they like sometimes water parks will have a dog weekend at the very end of the summer. Yeah.
And the dogs just go fucking nuts. That's what Bill's Mafia was doing inside the stadium today.

Speaker 3 Yeah. It rocked.
But yeah, imagine this. Imagine Andrew Cuomo getting on TV, issuing the order.
He's like, this is very serious weather. Stay home.
Look how cold it is outside.

Speaker 3 And then he just licks his nipple ring and his tongue gets stuck to it. Yeah.
Like, be careful out there, guys.

Speaker 1 While outside, don't try to put your tongue in your assistant's asshole. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Please be safe.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I mean, again, I know that we have a job to watch sports, so I'm very lucky. I'm excited for bonus football.

Speaker 1 It sucks for some people who have to work, but there's also a lot of people that aren't working on Monday. What are you going to say, Max?

Speaker 9 It's also hilarious. They're cocking the NBA.

Speaker 1 Oh, again, yes, yes.

Speaker 9 NBA just Christmas and MLK Day, both NBA days, that of NFL taking over.

Speaker 1 Media, NFL just flexing on them. Yeah, I don't think this will be something they just do because I do, it did feel like an incomplete super wild card weekend, only having four games.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it was, it was weird. Next weekend, I think, is my favorite football weekend of the year.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Divisional round. So much playoff football.

Speaker 1 Some great matchups.

Speaker 1 Well, one set, but some potential great matchups. I want to.
I mean.

Speaker 3 Don't look ahead.

Speaker 3 Don't look ahead.

Speaker 1 Don't. I was going to say Steelers-Ravens.
Okay, yeah. Steelers-Ravens.
Steelers-Ravens. These two teams don't like each other.

Speaker 1 I nailed all four picks. Steelers-Ravens.

Speaker 1 What about C.J. Stroud up against the young gun versus the old gun? C.J.
Stroud versus Mahomes, even though Mahomes isn't old. Yep.
These are some great matchups.

Speaker 3 Yep, that's what we meant.

Speaker 1 We got the Eagles going to the Lions.

Speaker 3 That's going to happen. Congrats, Max.

Speaker 1 Congrats, Max. Good job, Max.
Nope.

Speaker 1 Oh, man, you're so down on the Eagles. All right.
Let's do who's back of the week and we'll wrap up the show.

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Speaker 1 And Who's Back of the Week? PFT.

Speaker 3 My Who's Back of the Week is ESPN being Big Fat Phonies. Ooh.
Big Fat Phonies. And they got caught being phonies.

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 3 So every year, you know, the National Academy of Television, Arts, and Sciences presents the Emmy Awards.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 And ESPN, dating back to 1997, has been submitting fake names for Emmys, getting trophies for Emmys, and then giving them to honor talent who were not eligible to receive the awards. What the fuck?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 So they got caught.

Speaker 3 I don't know how they got caught. I have a theory of how they got caught though.

Speaker 3 The way that it's set up is certain production members and behind-the-scenes people are eligible for certain Emmys and the host of a show would not be eligible to receive that trophy

Speaker 1 for that show.

Speaker 3 My theory is that some of the hosts do like office shots from their homes and have the Emmys behind them. Yes.

Speaker 3 And somebody from the Emmy Awards saw that and they're like, wait, this person never won an Emmy from us. And then called ESPN.
They did an investigation.

Speaker 3 Apparently, I believe it was Stephanie Drully at ESPN. She was the executive in charge of it.

Speaker 3 They submitted dozens and dozens and dozens of fake names to the Emmys and just handed them out.

Speaker 3 They would make up a name, get the trophy, and then they'd be like, here you go, on-air talent. Here's your Emmy statue.
And the person would just have an Emmy that they didn't earn.

Speaker 1 I want one.

Speaker 3 Yeah, anyone can get an Emmy now.

Speaker 1 What the fuck? Yeah, pretty wild stuff.

Speaker 3 So read the full article is on the athletic. It came out last Thursday.

Speaker 3 It's wild stuff. So

Speaker 3 it's nice to see phonies being recognized as phonies. I want to give ESPN an Emmy for being the phoniest.

Speaker 1 Wait, so they're just fake Emmys behind everyone we're watching.

Speaker 3 Well, they're real Emmy trophies. But they're fake.

Speaker 1 They didn't win them.

Speaker 3 But they did not win those awards.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we need to get some fake Emmys.

Speaker 1 Can we?

Speaker 1 Jake, find us some Emmys.

Speaker 8 Do you want me to submit us for awards?

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no. I don't want to win a real Emmy.
Like, Amazon. Yeah, I just want an Emmy.
I want a replica.

Speaker 3 A really good-looking replica.

Speaker 1 Okay. Get like, maybe like 12.
Just tell me. I'll give you my credit card.
Get like 12 fake Emmys. Got it.
We'll just sprinkle them everywhere. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Jeff D. Lowe's.
You're like, damn, there's those Emmys. Jeff D.

Speaker 3 Lowe's is real.

Speaker 1 Is it?

Speaker 1 Well, I thought it was. Oh,

Speaker 1 because wasn't he working at ABC?

Speaker 1 CESPN?

Speaker 3 Yeah, Jeff D. Lowe's.
Disney.

Speaker 3 Uh-oh. I need to take a closer look at that trophy and see exactly who it was made out to.

Speaker 1 I want to get some fake Emmys.

Speaker 1 We need to get some.

Speaker 3 Yeah, just fake Oscars.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, get us an Oscar, too.

Speaker 8 Emmys and Oscars? Yeah,

Speaker 8 aren't the Oscars tonight? Something's tonight.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't mind a Lombardi.

Speaker 1 Get us a Lombardi.

Speaker 3 Maybe AVN.

Speaker 1 That would be a little expensive.

Speaker 3 Get an AVN and get a Moon Man, too. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 Oh, we tried to get some Agro Craig. We should really get some Agro Craig.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we want to get the, let's get a whole trophy case.

Speaker 8 Oh, wait, the Emmys are tonight.

Speaker 1 Yeah, let's get a whole trophy case. Let's get a whole trophy case.
We'll put it maybe over there and just be like, look at all of our trophies.

Speaker 1 Okay, my who's back of the week is Jerry Reinsdorf being the absolute worst. So this was obviously a story I think a lot of people saw, but the Bulls did their Ring of Honor.

Speaker 1 They invented a Ring of Honor.

Speaker 1 Very half-assed the whole production because they decided to do this in December.

Speaker 1 And they're like, hey, Ring of Honor Night in the middle of January, Steve Curry will be back with the Warriors. We're going to do Ring of Honor Night.

Speaker 1 You know, the normal, the guys that you think of when you think of the bulls franchise you know michael jordan and scotty pippen and dennis roman oh they won't be there but it's the ring of honor night so um they put it all together again michael jordan scotty pippen and dennis roman were not in attendance which is like that right there should have been there's no ring of honor night they should have called up mj and said what date works for you do you want us to play it in your backyard in florida we'll play the game in your backyard Michael Jordan is the Bulls.

Speaker 1 Like, it's so crazy they did that. So they do the whole thing at halftime, and they had, for people who have passed away, they had a family member sit in for them.

Speaker 1 Jerry Krauss passed away a few years ago. His widow Thelma Krauss sat in.

Speaker 1 Jerry Reinsdorf knew what was going to happen because Jerry Krauss used to get booed at the ring ceremonies when the Bulls were winning championships.

Speaker 1 And you also had the last dance come out, which was basically Jerry Krauss couldn't talk for himself because he was already passed away and he gets sewered some more.

Speaker 1 Jerry Reinsdorf has Jerry Krauss's picture shown. The fans boo, and then they show Thelma Krauss crying.
And yeah, the fans probably should be like, hey, this guy's been dead.

Speaker 1 We can just be like, hey, he did a lot of good things. I know that, you know, there's the end of the Bulls dynasty.
There was a lot of back and forth and everything.

Speaker 1 And Jerry Krauss has been painted as the bad guy, probably for a lot of things that he did to break it up. Either way, Jerry Reinsdorf is the one that everyone should be mad at.

Speaker 1 He's a fucking half-ass owner. He's bullshit.

Speaker 1 He's trying to like grab the, you know, the glory of the one time that he had a good team because Michael Jordan was the best player of all time and sell tickets that way.

Speaker 1 And then he shows Jerry Krauss' face, which, again, he knew that it was going to get booed. And then

Speaker 1 Thelma Cruz is that Krauss is there crying. Jerry Reinsorf is the one to blame.
I know fans probably shouldn't have booed, but Jerry Reinsorf is the one who's an asshole.

Speaker 3 So they did not boo his widow. They were booing the picture of Jerry Krauss.
The picture of Jerry Kraus while his widow was on the wood.

Speaker 1 It was very easy to just not show Jerry Krauss' picture and just be like, Thelma Krauss is here, next person.

Speaker 1 Or just don't, you know what I mean? Like, don't even, don't even say, just say, Jerry Krauss's widow is here.

Speaker 1 Like, move on instantly. Yeah.
Instead, he set it up.

Speaker 1 And again, the fans shouldn't have booed, so I'm not, like, absolving the fans, but I think that the real blame should be Jerry Reinsdorf for putting together a half-ass thing.

Speaker 1 And he hasn't actually tried to win a championship since Michael Jordan left.

Speaker 1 And they, you know they'll trot out and be like well Derek Rose got hurt couldn't seen that coming he's a fucking asshole and and he the whole night was a debacle and it was his fault and I think Phil Jackson's ovation was cut short like just an F-minus ring of honor from start to finish one thing despised owners love more than anything else is having somebody else that's despised more than you are and he did because you can always play into that yeah I'm in the whole I mean last dance was obviously it was Michael Jordan's telling of it and it was an awesome documentary but Jerry Reinsdorf got to get a say and guess who didn't?

Speaker 1 Jerry Krauss, because he'd passed away. Max.
It's like kind of a crazy thing to do.

Speaker 3 Max, I think you know where I'm going with this. Oh, yeah.
What would they say about Philadelphia fans if they did this?

Speaker 9 Why don't you ask the Chicago Bulls play-by-play announcer?

Speaker 1 Well, no, they, yeah, they, they said,

Speaker 9 Philly was big mad about that.

Speaker 1 Oh, people ripped Bulls fans for this. Ripped them.
It was all, it was like trending on Twitter for 24 hours. I mean, I get it.
They shouldn't have booed.

Speaker 1 But the real enemy here or the real bad guy here is Jerry Reinsdorf. That's my bigger point.
Like, shouldn't have booed that moment. Jerry Reinsdorf is the one who fucked everything up.

Speaker 9 But do you know? But do you know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 1 No, what are you talking about?

Speaker 9 The play-by-play guy went on.

Speaker 1 Are you talking about Stacey King?

Speaker 9 He went on a rant about how bad it was that the Bulls fans did that. And then he was like, we're not Philly.
We're Shika.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's funny.

Speaker 9 So Philly Twitter got a hold of that

Speaker 9 and they were really mad.

Speaker 1 Stacey King says the worst thing I've ever seen. That's stupid to bring in Philly.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I don't think it was the worst thing.
That was the other thing, is like that was what was pissing me off the next day so much with so many people going after the fans. And fans were dumb.

Speaker 1 Fans are fans. They're fanatics.
They're stupid. The real enemy here, the real guy who fucked this up was Jerry Reinsdorf.
That's the one who you should be going after.

Speaker 1 How do you do a ring of honor ceremony without Michael Jordan? Yeah. It's insane.

Speaker 3 No, no, that part is definitely a very solid point. It's like the ring of honor is null and void if everybody that should be in the ring Ring of Honor is not there.

Speaker 1 It's not a Ring of Honor.

Speaker 3 Like, yeah, you think of the Bulls, you think of Michael Jordan, Scotty Pippen, you think of those teams from the 90s, and to have those two.

Speaker 3 It's like, it's a bigger deal that they're doing a ring of honor without those guys

Speaker 3 actually having the ring of honor.

Speaker 1 Because they threw a half-assed thing together at last minute, and they're like, this will work. And then they screwed it up the entire time.

Speaker 3 But you also can't boo a guy who's dead. and then have his widow there crying.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, you can, but again,

Speaker 1 I agree with you. Jerry Reinsorf knew that if you showed Jerry Krauss's picture, they'd boo.
Yeah. He knew that.
Because they booed him in the ring ceremonies. Like, and the last dance happened.

Speaker 1 And that's a whole new generation of Bulls fans that saw it. And they're like, oh, Jerry Krauss really fucked this up.

Speaker 3 And the question is, like, how do they have the ring of honor? Do they not put Krauss in?

Speaker 1 No, they put him in. They just say,

Speaker 1 and here's Thelma Krauss. Guaranteed they don't boo a widow.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you're probably right.

Speaker 1 I mean, it was, it was.

Speaker 3 But they would probably have to show a picture of Jerry Kraus when they're like here's Thelma Kraus Jerry Kraus's widow They should have done they should have done Tony Ku Koach right after and then they would have been like are they booing or are they saying coop?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, that's yeah, that's probably a good point like they or they should have done they should have had you know what they really should have done if they wanted to fucking do if I ran the bulls I would have had a ring of honor and it would have been okay Michael Jordan and Scotty Pippen can't get there.

Speaker 1 All right

Speaker 1 Marcus Jordan and and and Larsa Pippen will be there. Yeah, Larsa should have been there and they'll just make out for sure for the entire halftime.
We'll watch him.

Speaker 1 I was going to say, we'll watch him. Fuck it.
I'm not going to say that. I had trouble with that

Speaker 1 with Taylor Swift. It was a joke.
And I guess my final point is I don't. Bulls fans should not have booed.

Speaker 1 Jerry Reinsdorf is the asshole behind all of this.

Speaker 3 He is one of the worst owners in sports, for sure, between the White Sox and the Bulls.

Speaker 1 And he cries poor, and he's like, I mean, his quotes about everything, like, oh, when is, you know, these,

Speaker 1 he did a, he was at like a CryptoCon con a few months ago and was like, everyone says these franchises are worth billions of dollars. Like, that's not real.
Like, it's just theoretical.

Speaker 1 It's like, no, they actually are. They get sold all the time for billions of dollars.

Speaker 3 It's also very funny that he said that at a CryptoCon, right?

Speaker 1 And he's, it might have been, I don't know if it was a crypto con. I'm going to say it was a crypto con.

Speaker 3 Jerry Rydsdorf getting into crypto is awesome to think about, though.

Speaker 1 It's just the whole thing is a joke, and he doesn't, he's not a serious owner of either White Sox or the Bulls.

Speaker 1 And all he cares about is that he made his money and he can sell merch off the 90s Bulls and the 05 White Sox and be like, well, we won once.

Speaker 1 Worst type of owner. Win once and then be like, well, we did that once.
It's fine. Fucking worst.
All right. Sorry.

Speaker 1 It was. Sorry, Max, that you got involved in that.
Stacey King shouldn't have said that. It's okay.

Speaker 9 He said New York, too. He goes, that's not Chicago.
That's New York, Philly.

Speaker 1 So, it's okay. You would have booted.
For sure. They love that New Yorking with Philly.
That's the thing. Fans are crazy.
I don't.

Speaker 9 Yeah, no, that was another thing that I looked at is that, like,

Speaker 9 fans will always be

Speaker 9 very, passionate fans will always find something to be angry about. And, like, sometimes it's not good.

Speaker 9 And, like, you just have, like, sometimes it comes off in poor taste, and you just have to kind of accept that.

Speaker 1 If it wasn't, if Thelma Krause wasn't there and also in tears, it wouldn't have been a story. And that's where Jerry Reinsorf fucked it up.

Speaker 9 I think it was, if she wasn't, if she wasn't in tears, I think was on the story.

Speaker 1 But that's where Jerry Reinsdorf fucked it up. He set it up to fail because if fans are fans and fans are going to be dumb and great, and it's like, that's what we do as fans.
We do stupid shit.

Speaker 1 We do great things. Like, it is what it is.
The owner is the one who set this whole thing up and it sucked.

Speaker 1 Okay. Also, the Bulls got outscored 48-20 in the third quarter after booing Thelma Krause.
Ball in line.

Speaker 1 All right. Jake.

Speaker 8 My who's back of the week is Dwayne Wade. So similar type of announcement, but this is all positive.
They're building a statue.

Speaker 2 Nice.

Speaker 8 They announced it today, Pat Riley, first statue in franchise history.

Speaker 3 All right. Statues are weird, aren't they?

Speaker 8 It's like the banner, and then the banner on steroids is the statue.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but just as a general concept, statues.

Speaker 3 It's a weird thing to do.

Speaker 3 I'm going to build a dude out of a rock that people can look at after you die.

Speaker 8 Yeah, except he only retired like five years ago.

Speaker 9 Yeah, which is weird.

Speaker 3 You very rarely get a statue of a living person. I guess in sports, it probably happens more often.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 But yeah, if there's anybody from the history of the Heat that deserves a statue, probably him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 8 Also, this is.

Speaker 3 Maybe Jason Williams.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 What do you think? Jake, I don't know. Rashid's.

Speaker 1 The Heat have MJ's number retired.

Speaker 9 Yeah, they do. It's respect.

Speaker 1 That's one of the weirdest moves ever.

Speaker 8 Respect.

Speaker 1 The Heat have MJ's number.

Speaker 1 It's just Bolster and they keep hanging in the rafters. The noise is like

Speaker 1 the most cucked move of all time.

Speaker 3 I think it's a close second, but the most cucked move in basketball is the New York Knicks wearing the Jumpman logo on some of their uniforms. That's pretty bad.

Speaker 8 Yeah, Py Riley explained it was made as a sign of respect of what Jordan has done for the game.

Speaker 1 I mean, I like that, but it's also like, I don't know, that's a... Philly wouldn't do that, right?

Speaker 3 They don't hang banners in Philly. That's true.

Speaker 8 Also, Hank probably would have mentioned this as his who's back, but he is a new coach. I'm sure we'll dive into it more when he's back.

Speaker 1 What do you mean? The Patriots. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. Gerard Mayo.
Yes. People are very mad that I mess up the name.
I said Jared. I apologize.
I said Jared Mayo. Yeah, Gerard Mayo.
I apologize.

Speaker 1 I apologize. I apologize.

Speaker 1 Probably a big fall, I guess.

Speaker 3 A lot of people are saying that he's been destined to be a head coach. So, I don't know.
I would have liked to see Vrabel.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But

Speaker 3 Mike Tomlin says he might go spend time with his family, talk it over. Mike Vrabel used to play for the Steelers.

Speaker 1 People forget.

Speaker 3 Mike Tomlin of Pittsburgh?

Speaker 1 Mike Vrabel would be the perfect Steelers coach.

Speaker 3 He would be their coach for 40 years.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Good show, boys. Great show.

Speaker 1 Any show you can get.

Speaker 1 Hank live from Dallas. Detroit Don with sprinkles.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's a great show. All right.

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Speaker 1 It would be nice for like a five-minute time capsule just to get all of Max, and then we could talk about the game on Tuesday.

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