Michigan Wins The National Title, NFL Playoffs With Brian Baldinger, Coach Firings And The Weird Flyers Hockey Story

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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we have our good friend Brian Baldinger on the show talking playoff football. We're getting ready for this weekend.

Speaker 1 We're also going to talk Michigan, the national title, on Monday night. Hail to the victors.
We got some coach firings. We got hot seat cool thrown.

Speaker 1 We have a hockey situation in Philadelphia that we've tasked Max to explain to us, which I'm very excited for because I've kept myself completely out of the loop.

Speaker 4 I saw two retweets on the situation.

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Love that. People are punching air right now.
If I was a producer, I'd fucking prepare segments all the time for these guys. And then we have guys on chicks, like Hank used to.

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Speaker 1 Welcome to part of my take. Today is Wednesday, January 10th.
And boys,

Speaker 1 the world has been restored. The Big Ten is back on top.
Michigan Wolverines are your 2023-24 national champions in college football. And our close personal friend Jim Harbaugh has finally done it.

Speaker 1 He can sit at the big boy table now. He's done it.

Speaker 4 You think he popped some celebratory milk last night?

Speaker 1 Absolutely.

Speaker 4 Popped in like champagne, slammed it back. He deserves to because a lot of people said bad things about Coach Harbaugh.
I'm not talking about this year. Before this year,

Speaker 4 they said pretty much what you just indicated, that he's not allowed at the big boys' table. I heard Paul Feinbaum today do something I've never heard Paul Feinbaum do.
He admitted he was wrong.

Speaker 4 Paul Feinbaum said, I've never been wrong about anything as much as I've been wrong about Harbaugh and Michigan.

Speaker 4 They held opponents to, I believe, 10.4 points per game

Speaker 4 this year. They held every single team under 25 points for the first time in 150 years.

Speaker 4 That's before the forward pass.

Speaker 1 That's before Michigan was playing doctors and physicians in 1900 and counting it to their total wins.

Speaker 4 They probably played their freshman team against their seniors and grad students, beat the freshman team. They're like, that's another national title.

Speaker 1 Another win. 1,000 wins.

Speaker 4 150 years ago, Minnesota did that. It hasn't been done since.
It's Michigan's first solo national title since 1948.

Speaker 1 They were.

Speaker 1 So we talked about this in the preview on Sunday night, and I was like, Michael Pennix is by far and away the best quarterback that Michigan defense has faced. So who knows?

Speaker 1 Maybe Michigan's defense has not been.

Speaker 1 That was wrong. Michigan's defense was so good.
That tackling, they tackle you to death. That's all they do.
Like, they missed one tackle all night. I think it was on the first drive.

Speaker 1 Every other pass was either contested or if a guy catches it, there's a bunch of Michigan Wolverines jumping all over you. And the thing, like, Harbaugh did it his way.

Speaker 1 That's the part that I love for Jim Harbaugh because you've seen college football change. You need the five stars, spread offense, all this stuff.

Speaker 1 Harbaugh said, no, I'm going to build it in the mold of how I love football.

Speaker 1 I'm going to build a team that leans on you for quarter after quarter after quarter, and then in the fourth quarter, you're going to be like, no, Moss, and we break it wide open.

Speaker 1 And I feel bad for Washington because this is maybe

Speaker 1 the peak of screenshots of holding. Yes.

Speaker 1 There were some bad no calls, and I do think the call was a little ticky-tacky on the Michael Pennix to Dunesay down that big 30-yard gain, their only big play of the game that got called back. But

Speaker 1 Washington fans, as much as it sucks right now, I just want to say this. Michigan was always going to win that game.
That is what Michigan does. They make you think it's close.

Speaker 1 And then when you get to the fourth quarter and you're just so sick of getting the ball shoved down your throat and their defense just keeps tackling everyone, they basically bend your will and Harbaugh gets his way.

Speaker 1 And that's just what they've done all season. What they've done basically for the last three years outside the Georgia and TCU game.
And that is what happened last night.

Speaker 1 So as much as it sucks for Washington, I really, truly believe Michigan was the best team by a large margin in college football this year.

Speaker 4 They were, and Pennix had a bad night last night. They do.
So we said some very nice things about Pennix after the semifinal game.

Speaker 4 I had to community notes, a couple people online to remind them exactly what we said and what we did not say.

Speaker 4 Pennix had like the game of a lifetime in the semifinals. He was incredible.
He stunk last night. He wasn't good at all.
And the defense was getting pressure on him. He wasn't super comfortable.

Speaker 4 The windows weren't there, but the windows weren't really there against Texas that much either. He just found them.
He just had perfectly placed balls.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he had to play a perfect game last night. And he did.
For their only chance for Washington to win. He was bad.

Speaker 4 He was not good last night.

Speaker 1 He missed probably three or four throws that he should have hit. And it was also just like Michigan, again, it was a seven-point game.
I was happy it was close.

Speaker 1 It wasn't, you know, there was times where it was like pretty ugly, guys dropping balls. But Michigan just always has you strangled, and they're just going to slowly strangle the life out of you.

Speaker 1 And that's what happened last night. Like we kept on saying when we were watching, like, oh, Washington get their big shot.
They get their big shot. It just never came.

Speaker 4 Washington got back in the game. We were in the game to start the second half, and then the immediate turnover right after halftime.
Then at that point, the game was over.

Speaker 1 Washington's defense played great. They gave him shot after shot after shot to try to tie that game.

Speaker 4 Yeah, after the first quarter, it felt like Michigan could just do whatever they wanted as long as they ran the ball.

Speaker 4 I think they could have won that game easily without throwing a single pass.

Speaker 1 They were

Speaker 4 the first two runs by the backup running back.

Speaker 1 Donovan Edwards.

Speaker 4 Edwards, it looked like Washington didn't have linebackers on the field. He only could just do that.

Speaker 4 If he hesitated for half of a second, he could just bounce it to the outside. Didn't matter which side he was going to go to.

Speaker 4 And then all the linebackers would get swallowed up in the middle of the field, and he just had 40 yards of daylight in front of him. It seemed like it was over right after it started.

Speaker 4 But with Washington hanging around, you were like, well, maybe Pinnix can do something. Maybe he can start playing well in the second half.
But

Speaker 4 I don't think that the game. There was never a doubt in my mind as to which team was better after the second drive of the game.
Right.

Speaker 1 It was that in Michigan, like, that's just, they play such fundamentally sound football where it's like they're not going to beat themselves.

Speaker 1 They're going to block the fuck out of you, and then they're going to tackle you, and then they're going to run it down your throat until you're like, I don't want to play anymore. And you're right.

Speaker 1 Michigan ran the ball 38 times for 303 yards,

Speaker 1 eight yards of carry.

Speaker 1 Also, I know that like

Speaker 1 whenever there's a national title, you know, the quarterback gets a lot of the accolades. J.J.
McCarthy, there's some J.J. McCarthy haters out there.
I understand that because he's not Michael Penix.

Speaker 1 He didn't have a a season like Michael Penix. He didn't have a season like Jaden Daniels.
He's not going to electrify you with his throws.

Speaker 1 But he is one of those guys that just makes the big plays when they have to be made. That

Speaker 1 third and eight scramble. Run, yeah.
When they were on their own eight-yard line, and he ran. They didn't even score on that drive, but it flipped all-field position.

Speaker 1 Like, those were the type of plays that J.J. McCarthy, even I think when they took the, when they went from seven points to a 14-point game, he had that big pass on first down.

Speaker 1 Not like the flashiest quarterback. I think he probably should stay another year.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 I think he is.

Speaker 1 And his mental health is A-okay.

Speaker 1 We learned about his mental health more than any storyline in the last two weeks.

Speaker 4 He grounds himself before every game. He takes his shoes off and he goes and he meditates underneath the goalpost.
It's very Liver King-like. He's grounding his body.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's basically the verbal meme, the arms shaking. It's Taylor Swift and J.J.
McCarthy's mental health, and it's just whenever a brand broadcaster has a lull in the conversation.

Speaker 4 Oh, I thought you were going to say J.J. McCarthy, Taylor Swift handshake, wishing I could see their feet on national television all the time.
That too.

Speaker 1 That too. But yeah,

Speaker 1 it was a true Jim Harbaugh national champion. Like they, they did it his way.
And because there was that time when it was the argument was, okay, Michigan can't beat Ohio State.

Speaker 1 They don't have the same dudes as Ohio State, Georgia, Alabama, these upper echelon teams. Then the last couple of years, it was Michigan

Speaker 1 has created themselves to a point where they can beat Ohio State, but they can't beat the Georgia and Alabamas. Like, Ohio State's better equipped to win those type of games.

Speaker 1 Last year, when Georgia almost lost to Ohio State, now he's finally come all the way where it's like, no, he built a team that can just bully everyone in the country. And he did it.

Speaker 4 He's got the big bullies right now, and they deserve to win. Credit to Michigan.
And I do like Coach Harbaugh. I think he's hilarious.
He's a funny guy.

Speaker 4 College football is better with figures like him in it. Yep.

Speaker 4 I also think this proves that cheaters win. Like in the long term, everybody cheats.
All right. This is not just Michigan.
Every school, every major school in the country, they cheat in certain ways.

Speaker 4 Michigan found a hilarious, over-the-top, absolutely ridiculous way to cheat for the last couple of years, and they won.

Speaker 4 If you can cheat and cheat better than anybody, really college football is about who is the best at cheating. And Michigan was really fucking good at cheating.

Speaker 1 They were really good. And Hank, you're our number one expert on cheating.
What do you think Michigan fans should say when people say, oh, this is a tainted national title?

Speaker 7 They are just mad that, you know, Michigan was doing well. It's something that everyone else in college football is doing.

Speaker 7 People just tried to make us think about Michigan, but as the facts have proven, every other team is doing it as well.

Speaker 1 And Connor Stallions rocks. Yes.

Speaker 1 He is the most.

Speaker 7 They're just mad that Connor Stallions was the best at it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and he also...

Speaker 7 He's true hate us because they ain't us.

Speaker 4 And he's really, really good at cheating. And he's funny.
He went to the Naval Academy to learn how to cheat.

Speaker 1 He cared so much about like...

Speaker 1 Connor Stallions was the big winner last night because Connor Stallions manifesto turned out to be true. He wrote a manifesto and saw it through.
He did it. Yeah, he literally did it.

Speaker 4 He might be the first person to ever write a manifesto, accomplish all the goals in their manifesto, and not end up in prison. Right.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He went from a vacuum cleaner salesman to a manifesto check mark.

Speaker 4 I would hire Conor Stallions to do any job in the world.

Speaker 1 I wish Barsta would hire him. I wish that was still on the table.
I would like to just give him an office, black out the glass, and just be like, he's our own Ernie Adams. We don't ask him questions.

Speaker 1 He's just like, hey, I've done some research. This other show's doing this.
I want you to do this.

Speaker 4 I want you to take down bleacher report once and for all.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Like, I want Connor Stallions on my side.
But yeah, it was,

Speaker 1 I don't really,

Speaker 1 people who are like, oh, this is tainted.

Speaker 4 Not tainted.

Speaker 1 Well, not only that, but they won the teams that they played, Penn State, Ohio State, Alabama, Washington, all happened post-Connor Stallions. Yes.

Speaker 1 So it's like, and

Speaker 1 they basically spent an entire season being like, it's us against the world, while also saying they were America's team. They are.

Speaker 4 I mean, cheating and getting away with it. There's nothing more American than that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you could see in that locker room, like, there was quotes like, guys, like, the haters are crying right now.

Speaker 1 Like, that locker room, they had it all together because the whole world was against them. We also.

Speaker 4 I'm thinking real quick about that run that you just mentioned at the end of the year, too. They played great teams going down the stretch.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Iowa, I forgot.
Sorry, I shouldn't have been. Iowa,

Speaker 4 they were ranked number like 20 at the time.

Speaker 1 Big Ten West champion.

Speaker 4 Not only did they win all those games against great teams, I think they covered every spread.

Speaker 1 They,

Speaker 1 yeah, yeah, they did. So they're really.
I think the last time they didn't cover the spread was against Purdue. I don't know why I know that.
Oh, no, Maryland.

Speaker 1 They didn't cover Maryland in the sandwich spot because they played Penn State, Maryland, Ohio State.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so they're really fucking good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, they're really, really good. That was 15-0.
Seeing 15-0, too. It's a good thing.
It just feels way different than when we saw it back in the day, like, you know, 12-0 national title.

Speaker 4 That's a big number. 15 wins is a lot.

Speaker 1 And next year will be 16, right? I think it would be. Whoever wins the national title will be 16 and up.

Speaker 4 I have a fun little fact here for you, big cat.

Speaker 8 Or 17 if a team that doesn't get a buy. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 4 Yep, good point, Jake. So the last time that Peyton Manning and Tom Brady were not in the NFL playoffs, do you know when that was?

Speaker 1 It had to be like 1999.

Speaker 4 It was 98.

Speaker 1 98.

Speaker 4 Michigan was also rating champions that year.

Speaker 4 Interesting. Co-champions, I should say.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 So what does that fact tell us?

Speaker 4 It went Michigan

Speaker 1 to really long time to win another one.

Speaker 4 Michigan, Tom Brady, Michigan.

Speaker 4 So it's like Tom Brady has been a champion for

Speaker 1 24 years. Yes.
And

Speaker 1 we should say,

Speaker 1 be gracious,

Speaker 1 people here at Barstool Sports, our boss, Dave Portnoy, Michigan alum, he went five whole years without

Speaker 4 winning a title. He was tough.

Speaker 1 And in those five years, I think our friend Nick Tarani put it perfectly, in those five years, he made like $400 million. So it's been tough for him.

Speaker 4 It's been really hard.

Speaker 1 But he is he is the drought is over for dave maybe we'll finally sell some merch around here celtics made it to the finals yeah ruins yeah he's at heartbreak yeah he's at heartbreak but here he is but yeah michigan i mean it's i'm just happy for jim harbaugh i i love jim harbaugh even even memes was posting the old uh harbaugh clip when we had him on the show talking about how spongebob is a hero of his yeah spongebob's a hero uh he he talks a lot about world war ii yep as well we're gonna get him back on the show for sure we actually so i wanted to mention real quick.

Speaker 7 I wish the one thing I wish we had was the, we played in his scramble in the face of disgust. It was me, you, PFT, Tony Scheffler.

Speaker 7 This is before I was, you know, taking golf seriously as a side gig.

Speaker 1 You've much, you've gotten much better, right?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I can actually hit the ball.

Speaker 1 I think we were like

Speaker 1 you were wearing jeans.

Speaker 7 I was wearing jeans. I think as a foursome, we were like plus five, plus six.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Through like 12 holes, and he came running a golf cart.

Speaker 1 He's like, hey, what's up, guys?

Speaker 7 How's it going? Like, what's your score? We're like plus five. And the look of disgust.
He didn't even hide it. He was just like, almost looked like he went to puke and drove away.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I think he said, he's like,

Speaker 1 you guys are playing scramble rules, right?

Speaker 1 Like, there's something not computing here.

Speaker 1 How bad are you guys?

Speaker 4 He was ready to play last night, too, in the pregame drills when he was catching passes for his quarterback. He's wearing the cleats.

Speaker 1 He just gloves on.

Speaker 1 He is like, and he said it, he gets to sit at the big boy table, which you know, like in a weird way, I think obviously winning for Michigan was big, but like just the fact that he can sit down and be like, All right, you got a Super Bowl, I got a national title.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like it does matter for him.

Speaker 4 Who's at the big boy table now?

Speaker 1 Well, it's his dad won a national title. He said that.
His quote was: Hold on, I have some Jim Harbaugh quotes that I wanted to go through.

Speaker 1 He said, I can now sit at the big person's table in my family. Jack Harbaugh won the national championship.
My brother won a Super Bowl. It's good to be at the big person's table from now on.

Speaker 1 Also, some great quotes from Jim Harbaugh last night.

Speaker 1 After the game, he was, it was like, did he just win the national title or is he on LSD?

Speaker 1 Because he just looked up in the confetti and he said, there's a story in every one of these pieces of confetti. It's like,

Speaker 1 I can feel the air. Yeah.
I could taste colors.

Speaker 4 The universe is connected.

Speaker 4 That piece of confetti was once a mighty tree in the biggest forest on the earth.

Speaker 1 Yes. He also, this is, I guess, a new mantra, which I think the team, the team, the team, shout out Bo Schembuckler, because that really is the greatest mantra to come up with.

Speaker 1 Which you can tell, like, Jim Harbaugh, like, Bo Shembuck, I know that it sounds cheesy, but Bo Schembuckle or what he instilled in Jim Harbaugh, like, it is a whole Michigan thing, cult thing that they've got going on that works.

Speaker 1 But he said, what's good for the bee is good for the hive, and what's good for the hive is good for the bee. Not as cool as the team-to-team to team, but still.
It's all for one, one-for-all.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and then the ultimate Jim Harbaugh quote from last night, he said, someday, when they throw dirt over the top of me, if somebody who is eulogizing me, who is on this team, or one of my teammates when I was playing at Michigan, if they would simply say he was a Michigan man, that would mean everything to me.

Speaker 1 I got chills. I got chills thinking about it.
He's the best. That's all he wants.
You know what he wants? So I would just be like, and he was a Michigan man.

Speaker 4 It's also nice to see somebody experiencing their peak and knowing that they're in their peak at the moment. That is like a transcendent drug.
To be like, well, it's not getting any better than this.

Speaker 4 This is, I want to be known for this exact thing that I did right now.

Speaker 1 Right. And it's also the Michigan win.

Speaker 1 There is something that happens in sports fandom. I call it the flip, the big flip, when a team is down and they have a rival who just rubs their face in it for a very long time.

Speaker 1 It's as bad as it can get. But the reason why you keep coming back is because the flip is always on the horizon.
So like Ohio State fans have spent 20 years being like, this is the new normal.

Speaker 4 Michigan sucks.

Speaker 1 We're awesome. We win national titles.
We beat them every year.

Speaker 1 And then the flip happened and all that like new normal is now evaporated, and Michigan's on top, and that's what keeps you coming back as a sports fan.

Speaker 1 You're like, as bad as it could be right now, the flip may happen at any point.

Speaker 1 And I'm not saying this just because I think about it pretty much every day as it relates to Paris Packers, but it is like that is the, if you're a team, if you root for a team that sucks and that gets just shit on.

Speaker 1 The big flip is always there for you. And that's what Michigan did the last three years.

Speaker 4 What they have to do is Ohio State has to flip it back soon because if you don't flip it back soon, then you have to wait a long time because then the expectation becomes

Speaker 4 like in the back of everybody's mind. I think there's still kids that are getting recruited right now to go to college that still remember the dominance of Ohio State.
Right.

Speaker 4 And we're supposed to win this game every single year. But if you wait too long, if you wait like seven more years, then you have to get guys that have the DNA to flip.
Right.

Speaker 4 And they don't have the flip ingrained in them already.

Speaker 1 It is a way to make yourself feel better if you root for a team that doesn't win because you can just tell your rival, like, at some point, the big flip will happen. And that should terrify you.

Speaker 1 Because there is no worse feeling as an Ohio State fan waking up today where you thought that, like, you obviously knew that Michigan would eventually probably figure it out.

Speaker 1 But if you go 10, 15, 20 years where Michigan sucks, you think in your head, the back of your head, you're like, maybe we just will beat them every year

Speaker 1 from now until eternity. And you know, though, that little piece of your feeling, like, oh, the big flip could happen and everything could turn.

Speaker 4 Yeah, out of fan bases that had been considered to be long-suffering or underdogs, I don't don't know that I would put Michigan in that pile. No, because it's mostly them and Ohio State.

Speaker 4 That's been their underdog situation. It hasn't been like Michigan's the lovable losers.

Speaker 1 The Rich Rodden and Brady Hokeyers were very, very bad. I'm more.

Speaker 4 They're not lovable losers.

Speaker 1 No, Michigan has an unfounded arrogance to them as a fan base that is disgusting and makes everyone else want to puke. So, yeah, I agree.
They're not lovable losers.

Speaker 1 I'm just talking as it relates to rivalries and sports fandom. If you're stuck in a situation where it's like, will we ever get back over this team? Will we ever get back on top of the mountain?

Speaker 1 The big flip is what wakes you up in the morning. And Michigan got it.
They did it.

Speaker 4 Congrats to Coach Harbaugh. I think this means he's going to go.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Talk to Baldi.

Speaker 1 Did you see that one quote? There was one quote that he had with SVP that was a little interesting. He said that SVP, I can't remember what he asked him, but he said that

Speaker 1 he decided to move Spring Ball from February to March.

Speaker 1 So that's weird that he's thinking of this schedule.

Speaker 4 He's probably planning ahead so that the next coach comes in, doesn't get as much practice.

Speaker 4 So we talked to our friend Sam Schwartzein. He played for Coach Harbaugh, and I brought up the sleep thing that Harbaugh had, where it's like the night before, the night before.

Speaker 4 That's really your night before sleep that you play on. And Sam was saying that they had a big game on the East Coast against Wake Forest, and this is out at Stanford.

Speaker 4 And so the entire week, Coach had them waking up at like three in the morning, practicing at four in the morning. He switched their clocks on the West Coast.

Speaker 4 It's like staying at the Greenbrier, except he was out in Palo Alto. Yeah.

Speaker 4 He's like, okay, you're waking up at three o'clock, you're practicing at four, and then on the plane ride over, he was going up and down the aisles, waking up every player that was sleeping, being like, you're not allowed to sleep yet.

Speaker 4 We have to conquer sleep. Then, when we conquer sleep, we beat our opponent.
Then they lost Wake Force. Yeah.
But still, like,

Speaker 1 biohacking.

Speaker 4 Coach Harbaugh has a bright future in biohacking.

Speaker 1 We also missed one quote from Harbaugh before the game.

Speaker 1 A reporter asked him, like, what do you guys do to prepare? And he said that he has the whole team sit down and they watch nature documentaries about wolves.

Speaker 1 And his quote was, we allow ourselves to devolve into a pack of wolves. That's what we want to channel.
Probably nature's greatest fighting unit. Oh,

Speaker 1 I love that. That's fucking awesome.
I love that shit.

Speaker 4 Just sitting down. That's the Billy football method.
Yeah. Just watching nature slaughter each other.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 Tap into that primal. So he is a primal.

Speaker 1 The one thing that I would say to Coach Harbaugh, because we do consider him a friend, I would wait on the tattoo. So he said that he's getting a tattoo.

Speaker 1 He told the team he's going to get a tattoo of 15-0.

Speaker 1 The last time a coach got a tattoo after winning a national title,

Speaker 4 Patino.

Speaker 1 Our good friend Rick Petino got it vacated. And that is on the table here.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 4 I actually think I was reading some report yesterday that said in order to vacate a national title,

Speaker 4 they have to take that away from them before the end of the game.

Speaker 1 But that's not what happened with Louisville at all.

Speaker 4 I know, but this is college football.

Speaker 1 But a college basketball will be the same. No, I don't.

Speaker 4 I don't think so. I don't think so.
Because I was reading a report yesterday that had that brought up that exact same scenario.

Speaker 1 I feel like they could take it away at any time, and it doesn't mean anything. The vacated national title is the dumbest thing in sports.

Speaker 4 You have to take down the banner?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like, who cares? Every fan lived it. Every Rick Patino's got a tattoo.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Who cares? I'm going to look this up because I'm pretty sure in college football, the rules are different.

Speaker 1 I feel like that was, you read that from like a go-blue message board person being like, as long as it hits zero, we're good.

Speaker 4 No, no, no.

Speaker 1 Statue of limitations are over.

Speaker 4 Let's see. I'll pull it up.

Speaker 1 But yeah, congrats to Michigan. Congrats to Jim Harbaugh.
We will try to get him on again soon.

Speaker 1 What were you going to say, Jake?

Speaker 8 Can we do some box talk? You guys see that box?

Speaker 4 Yeah. It was a great box last night.

Speaker 1 We were laughing about it when we saw your tweet

Speaker 1 on the gambling stream because everyone's like, what is Jake talking about this box? Like, listen, you got to know Jake Marsh. The game is not really important.
It's what's going on around the game.

Speaker 8 But the storylines outside of it are equally as great.

Speaker 1 I liked your treat because I am, we definitely will do a box of the 80s. Box of the 80s.
So, so talk to us about the box. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 8 So this box will be one of the nominees. It'll be Michael Jordan, Stephen A.
Smith, Derek Jeter, and I didn't recognize Travis Scott because I don't know pop culture.

Speaker 4 Spike Lee was in there too, I think.

Speaker 5 Okay.

Speaker 8 You couldn't really tell from the angle.

Speaker 1 Michael Rubin. Yeah.
You saw him PFT. Yeah, I did.
I thought. So we have that box.

Speaker 1 I think it was actually Michael Rubin's white party was that box. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I just assumed that Michael Rubin's presence was there. Yeah.

Speaker 8 So that was a good box. We have Taylor Swift's box at Chiefs' Games with Travis Kelsey.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 8 Or, excuse me, Donna Kelsey.

Speaker 8 Or you could take the one from MetLife. She was with Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively.

Speaker 4 It was a good box.

Speaker 8 We have Jimmy Butler and the Biebers and Coco Goff's box. Okay, now Jake.

Speaker 4 Jake, no, I'm confused because that's Coco Goff's box.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 But Taylor Swift, it's her box when she's at Arrowhead.

Speaker 1 Is it not Travis Kelsey's box? It sounds like you just want to bring up Taylor Swift's box.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 8 technically, it makes you

Speaker 1 thought of it as Travis Kelsey's box, but you're such a pervert, you're like, how can I say Taylor Swift's box on pardon my tail? It meant to be

Speaker 8 Travis Kelsey's box.

Speaker 1 Okay. Got it.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Boxing.

Speaker 8 Taylor Swift and Taylor Swift's mom, or excuse me, Travis Kelsey's mom in Travis Kelsey's box.

Speaker 4 Oh, that's freaky. It actually might be Donna Kelsey's box.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It could be. Which Travis Kelsey was in at one point.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and so is Jason Kelsey. Right.
That's actually maybe the best box.

Speaker 1 That is the number one box, right?

Speaker 8 And then our fourth nominee will be Joe Burrow's box with Jake Browning's girlfriend.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. It's a good box.

Speaker 8 So that's a little sneak peek for the 2024 take-you. There's your first category

Speaker 5 at the Panthers game. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 8 That was two years ago, right?

Speaker 1 What about Brooks when he didn't sleep? Yeah, but that's a different box.

Speaker 1 That was a great box.

Speaker 4 I've seen a lot of good boxes over the years.

Speaker 1 But nothing really. Wait, are we calling it Taylor Schwarz's box? No, that was

Speaker 4 Travis Kelsey.

Speaker 1 That was a mistake on my end. Got it.

Speaker 8 But yeah, stay tuned.

Speaker 1 It was good boxing. This summer.
Yeah. Yeah, no,

Speaker 1 when you followed it up with we're going to have to do box of the year, I thought that was a very good idea.

Speaker 1 Okay, did you find out

Speaker 4 if they can vacate it? I'm looking it up.

Speaker 4 Why Michigan football's college football national title won't be tainted?

Speaker 4 That seems like an opinion piece. It does seem like it.

Speaker 1 I mean, you could be right. I just, it would be weird if it was different rules for college basketball and college football because it would be the NCAA taking away

Speaker 4 it's the college football playoff.

Speaker 4 So it's not, I don't think it's NCAA. I think it's college football playoff, right?

Speaker 1 But they could take away the, I guess they could take away the AP votes and the coaches' votes.

Speaker 4 They might do that. Yeah.
So I don't know. The answer is, I don't know.

Speaker 1 Get that tattoo.

Speaker 4 I would love it. What if he got a neck tattoo?

Speaker 1 I want to just get a tattoo of a ribeye.

Speaker 4 Just steak. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just like right on his biceps.

Speaker 4 You should get the wolf tattoo, like the howling wolves across his chest. Yes.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 That would be great. Be a wolf.

Speaker 4 That's what Taylor Luan always says. True.
Noted Michigan alum. Yes.

Speaker 1 People are asking, is this the year of Harbaugh? Because now we have John going in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 So if you were to put truth serum in Jim Harbaugh's arm, maybe when he was getting the tattoo,

Speaker 4 he does not want his brother to get another Super Bowl, right? I mean, his brother was there on the sidelines. It was a wild scene before the game.
They hugged each other.

Speaker 4 I've been speculating that maybe they're Sharon Connor Stallions this year. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I think that Jim, if you were to make him be honest, he doesn't want his brother to have two.

Speaker 1 So it's a competing thoughts because

Speaker 1 my knee-jerk reaction is I agree with you. But then if John wins a Super Bowl, then they get to be like year of Harbaugh.
Like Harbaugh's run football.

Speaker 4 Yeah, O'Doyle rules.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so you kind of get that where it's like their powers combined.

Speaker 1 But you can't tell the story of 2024 without Harbaugh.

Speaker 4 It's the year of Harbaugh.

Speaker 1 It's the year of Harbaugh.

Speaker 4 But then Jim goes to the NFL, maybe, and then now he's got two Super Bowls that he has to do. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Does he not get to go to the big, is there a bigger boys' table?

Speaker 4 I actually, he might get to dine alone at the King's table.

Speaker 1 That would be great if John Harbaugh won a Super Bowl and then Thanksgiving next year had an extra like the Phil Jackson pillow that he used to sit on. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And just be like, no, I don't think you understand. I have two.

Speaker 4 There might be a dad's favorite chair. Yeah.
And then he gets that. I think that...
I think that Jim probably

Speaker 4 doesn't want his brother to have two before he gets one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, probably.

Speaker 4 Because then now he's like, oh, now I have to win two.

Speaker 1 Deep down, but then.

Speaker 4 But then he knows if he does win two and his brother doesn't have a single college football natty,

Speaker 1 then he's King Harbaugh. Yeah, but I think it does go back to like, if you add, if you hit him with True Serum, we would normally think a human being with True Serum would be like,

Speaker 1 you know, very open and selfish to like what, you know, yeah, it's my brother, but I want to have the moment. I think if you hit Jim Harbaugh with True Serum, he would be like,

Speaker 1 my goal in life is for the Harbaughs to run football. I think that's...
You know what I mean? Like, he's like, what do you want?

Speaker 1 Like, if you could have any wish in the world, it's like, Harbaughs are, we rename football Harbaugh.

Speaker 4 I don't even think that there's such a thing as Truth Serum for him. I think his blood is true.
He just tells the truth all the time.

Speaker 1 He said they were innocent. He said they were innocent.

Speaker 4 He stood up. That's why they were able to stand up for themselves so vociferously was because he knew that the truth was on their side.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Exactly.

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Speaker 1 Okay, other news. We have coach firings.
The shocker, Mike Vrabel fired by the Titans.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I think that's a really stupid move by the Titans.

Speaker 4 I was going to say dumb as shit, but I'll take stupid. And I think anybody in this room would like to have Coach Vrabel as their coach next year, right?

Speaker 1 We can't say that. Well, I don't understand.
Is so, I guess you, oh, the last two years haven't gone great. Mike Vrabel has had insane amounts of success with Ryan Tannehill as quarterback.

Speaker 1 Find me another coach could get a Ryan Tannehill to the AFC Championship game. Like, he's never had a good quarterback.

Speaker 4 They were the one seed in 2021.

Speaker 4 Last year, they traded away A.J. Brown and a bunch of good players.

Speaker 4 And this year, they had a bunch of dog shit going on. Tannehill had one of the biggest cap hits, I think, in the NFL as a quarterback.

Speaker 4 And they were so competitive.

Speaker 1 Like, they didn't quit.

Speaker 4 Vrabel's an awesome coach.

Speaker 4 And maybe the funniest part, maybe also the most relatable part of the story, diana rossini reported this the titans believed trading vrabel was too complicated and would take too long per sources they wanted to move on quickly i was told vrabel never asked ownership for a trade or asked out of tennessee that means that the titans just didn't want to do paperwork which i completely understand yes like if they wanted to they could have sat down and probably gotten like a i don't know what coaches go for these days last trade was a long time ago i think that was probably john gruden yeah um but you can trade coaches in the nfl no wait sean payton he got traded didn't Didn't the Saints get a pick for him?

Speaker 1 Maybe, like, comes up. Is he not still under contract?

Speaker 4 No, he took a year off.

Speaker 1 Remember when he was a paper? Yeah, I know, but I feel like he still had a year.

Speaker 4 I don't know if that was a trade necessarily. But the point is, in the NFL, you can trade coaches.

Speaker 4 And the owner of the Titans, Amy Adams Strunk, basically just didn't want to do the paperwork and the legwork and waste time trying to pull off a trade, which I completely understand that point of view.

Speaker 4 Yes. Also, I can understand that that's probably not how you want to run an NFL franchise.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 The

Speaker 1 yeah, I think the oh no, wait, I think the I think the Saints had to trade, or the Saints got a couple picks.

Speaker 5 The Saints will receive the Broncos 23 first-round pick and 24 second-round pick for Payton and the Saints 24 third-round pick.

Speaker 1 It's big. Yeah, it is big.
Huge.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I agree. The paperwork is daunting.

Speaker 4 Paperwork, I mean, imagine that. You have to probably call 30 other teams.

Speaker 1 You have to talk. And also,

Speaker 1 you have to.

Speaker 1 How would you, like, if they did a trade,

Speaker 1 Bill Belichick is the GM of the Patriots. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you call Bill Belichick and be like, hey, we want to trade you Mike Vrabel when you get fired?

Speaker 4 Well, Bill Belichick would probably say, let's do a trade. I will trade you Bill Belichick for Mike Vrabel.
That would be interesting.

Speaker 4 But here's the thing is you don't, he would not make them... He would not make the Titans pay anything.
Right. Because then he was going to go to Tennessee and he wants all his draft picks.

Speaker 1 Right. Hank.

Speaker 4 But he's not GM anymore, maybe.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Mike Rabel. Is this open the door?

Speaker 7 Would love to have Mike Vrabel as a coach of the Patriots.

Speaker 4 You have a coach. We do have a coach.

Speaker 1 Never talk about another man's job. There hasn't been a lot of news.

Speaker 7 There was all these reports, fan fiction articles.

Speaker 1 He's getting his chest puffed out again. No, I didn't.
You just said you won in Mike Vrabel. Well, because you guys

Speaker 1 made me do a solo. You ran Bill Belichick

Speaker 7 based off of a fake article.

Speaker 1 Maybe an overreaction, hand up. Yeah.

Speaker 7 You guys are like, go do a solo podcast, which has never been done in the history of the show based off of rumor and speculation.

Speaker 4 You personally just now ran Bill Belichick out of town.

Speaker 1 After all he's done.

Speaker 1 You guys gaslit me for believing that. I forgot we made you do that.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 You guys gaslit me into believing that there was no world where Belichick wasn't going to be the coach. PFT makes Photoshops.

Speaker 1 I did not make a phone.

Speaker 7 He chains Shane to his desk and forces him to not leave the office until like 10 Bill Belichick photoshops are done.

Speaker 1 That's what I do. But Hank is somehow that this coach firing day has

Speaker 4 coached me and laughing very hard because that's exactly what you do to them.

Speaker 1 And Rek didn't say that. Yeah.
No, it's not. I don't make them do anything.

Speaker 7 I'm the best boss in the world.

Speaker 1 Oh, maybe you should have made Max push the button that time.

Speaker 7 Yeah,

Speaker 1 that was a mistake.

Speaker 7 Come on.

Speaker 7 But I told him I'm always down to edit whenever he wants to do a soul Eagles podcast.

Speaker 4 But yeah, now you want Vrabel and you've written.

Speaker 1 I just don't know.

Speaker 7 Like, again, I'm used to winning. I'm used to late draft picks.
I don't understand the draft. I don't understand coaching carousel nonsense.
If Belchek's gone, when's it happening?

Speaker 1 Experts?

Speaker 1 It could happen anytime.

Speaker 1 What's today's date? The 8th, 9th. No, what's the day? Sorry.

Speaker 7 Tuesday, January 9th.

Speaker 1 Okay, did anyone get fired today? Yeah. Like Frabel did.
Oh, shit. So there's no rules for Black Monday.

Speaker 1 Also, Ron Rivera got fired on Sunday. So did Arthur Smith.
No, no. No, Rivera on Monday.
That's Monday morning. Arthur Smith on Sunday.

Speaker 4 Ron Rivera got fired in November.

Speaker 8 Also, multiple coaches got fired before.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. So Black Monday is fluid, Hank.
Try to be fluid for once in your life.

Speaker 4 So here's the thing. If Bill Belcher, Belichick said that he has a meeting with Robert Kraft once a week, they go over what happened last week, plan for the future.

Speaker 4 They just haven't had that meeting yet.

Speaker 5 What if it happens by tomorrow morning?

Speaker 1 That would be great. Hank should do a solopon.
Oh, you'd have to do a solo pod.

Speaker 1 I hope he gets fired right before we leave. You want him, though.
You want to keep him. Of course.
Yeah. He's the greatest coach of all time.

Speaker 1 He got you in this mess. He can get you out of it.

Speaker 7 Yeah, he said he's willing to take a lesser role with the team, which

Speaker 4 I feel like is

Speaker 7 that would be bizarre.

Speaker 1 So funny if his lesser role was to not be the coach anymore, but still be the GM. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Bring Vabel in his coach and his GM. Get the boys back together.

Speaker 1 Get the boys back together.

Speaker 1 It is crazy. Like, Vrabel, if he wants to coach next year, he should be the number one option for every team who's looking for a coach.
Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Vrabel is a big name out there.

Speaker 7 Everybody has Vrabel or Belichick, PFT.

Speaker 4 Oh, man. I mean, Vrabel has some Belichick in him.
He learned under Belichick. So I feel like if I get Vrabel, I'm getting Bill Belichick and Mike Rabel.

Speaker 1 Also, yeah, like Belichick has how many rings? Six. But how many of them has he, I mean, some of those are Mike Rabel's rings.
Whose rings are they?

Speaker 1 As head coach? Well, Mike Rabel was a play. Players make plays.
True. Caught touchdowns in the Super Bowl.
So, those are actually his.

Speaker 7 So it's three to three. Yeah, they're ours.

Speaker 7 It's a collective thing.

Speaker 4 I just think it's dumb as shit to fire Mike Rabel right now. Agreed.
It's so stupid. There was another report that came out.

Speaker 7 Will Compton and Taylor Wand both said that it was politics and like Game of Thrones type things happening.

Speaker 1 I believe that because I think they got a new GM last year, right? So he probably is like, I want to, you know, I want to pick my guy. I want to pick my guy.

Speaker 4 Crabble was probably too big of an alpha for him.

Speaker 1 They also have a new stadium coming, right?

Speaker 4 Are they building one? The house that Levis built.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you always got to look for a new coach then.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Did you see the report about Russell Wilson, though, and his contract? No. So there's a chance Russell goes back to the Broncos next year.

Speaker 1 Oh, that'll be awkward.

Speaker 4 It'd be very awkward. So George Patton, their GM, said that he never told Russell that he had to take a pay cut or he was going to be cut or anything like that, or

Speaker 4 readjust his injury guarantee.

Speaker 4 He said that he went to Russell with a creative and good faith idea for how to restructure his contract. So he's like completely spinning this into being like, that's not what I said.

Speaker 4 What I actually just tried to do was have a mid-contract renegotiation with him.

Speaker 4 He's saying, I didn't do that, but I did it, but it was good. So all you people that are saying it's bad, it was actually in good good faith that I asked him to readjust his contract.
It was just

Speaker 4 a matter of time.

Speaker 1 He came through ha ha at the end of the day. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Hey, wouldn't it be crazy if you readjusted your injury guarantee for after this season so it made it easier for us to cut you? Ha ha ha.

Speaker 1 Yeah, can you just give me $37 million back? Ha ha. Yeah.

Speaker 5 JK. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And then wait for the bubbles to come back at you. And then he said that the benching, Russell Wilson getting benched, was actually unrelated to that contract.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 4 Sean Payton. Sean Payton benched him because I guess he thought Jared Stiddam was the guy.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 So they're in damage control. And if I'm the Broncos, you have to think,

Speaker 4 is it going to be worse for us if we get hammered in fines and the NFL does, you know.

Speaker 7 That sounds like a lawsuit talk.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it seems like the cover-your-ass move would be like, we're actually just going to have Russell stick around for next year.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That would be smart.
And then maybe trade him after a couple weeks. Yeah, to who? Whoever gets their quarterback injured.

Speaker 4 The UFO. That happens every year.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Right? Yeah, that's true.
He's just waited out, and then Trayton would be like, no, we wanted him to play.

Speaker 4 Trade him back to Seattle. Flip him.

Speaker 1 I don't think that. I think people would probably be pretty upset.
Very upset. Very upset.
And then, so, so far, we've had Mike Frabel dumb firing.

Speaker 1 Arthur Smith, dumb firing because we're friends with him, and we won't say anything more about that. Ron Rivera, good firing.

Speaker 4 Great, great. The firing of the year.

Speaker 1 Anyone else? And then we obviously had the McDaniels, Staley, Frank Reich. That's it.
Yeah, it's only six right now. We still have.
I feel like we're going to get to eight.

Speaker 4 We might. We've got some postseason guys.

Speaker 1 Dennis Allen, how have you not been fired?

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 Shannon Sharp said that he would have cut Jameis Winston for mutiny.

Speaker 1 Then you get a real mutiny.

Speaker 4 Then you get a serious mutiny because all of his guys have his back. Right.

Speaker 4 All the players down there have his back, which actually, if you're the Saints, you probably want a lot of your current players gone somehow. Get you out of Cap Hall.
Get you out of Cap Hel.

Speaker 4 What if, okay, now I'm doing some serious fan fiction. Harbaugh to the NFL, he brings in Jameis Winston because he knows he doesn't have a sex addiction.

Speaker 4 Not addicted to sex. Jameis Winston.

Speaker 7 I think Jameis is going to get blacklisted.

Speaker 1 He makes Jameis wear glasses, even though he got LASIC. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Brack specs. The transition lenses.
You think Jameis got blacklisted? He's going to get.

Speaker 1 Blackballed, you mean?

Speaker 1 Blackball. He's been blackballed.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 They made no mention about how they forced him to play on four cracked vertebrae and a torn peri-O'neal tendon.

Speaker 1 none of that i'll say this right now if jameis winston doesn't get another job in the nfl he has a job for life at barstool i don't know how we're going to financially make that work but i'm going to say it right now just to be a dude yes hang out be a vibes guy

Speaker 1 if he was just the vibes guy in the office imagine walking in at like eight in the morning and jameis is just like let's go eat a dub yeah he does his workouts with us yeah oh my god that'd be insane that we could make money off of that we could we could we could pay his salary for sure workouts just a live stream of his workouts every day.

Speaker 1 All right, Jameis, you have a job for life.

Speaker 4 But no, Jameis should not be blackballed. No.
He did the right thing.

Speaker 4 Maybe from the wrong formation, but he did the right thing.

Speaker 1 I think most teams would be like, that was a great teammate move.

Speaker 4 But not most coaches.

Speaker 1 Right, but Dennis Allen's a fucking idiot. Most coaches probably.
Formations. Dennis Allen's

Speaker 1 idiot. Yeah.

Speaker 4 What do you think about Arthur Smith and Vrabes teaming up again? That would be good. People are saying it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That'd be good with that. But what do you think? What's the over-under? So we're at six right now.
And what do you think?

Speaker 1 If I give you over, under a seven and a half?

Speaker 1 I think over, maybe?

Speaker 7 If Belichick getting fired, yes or no?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 4 You tell us. You just fired him.

Speaker 1 They're going to do a mutual separation.

Speaker 4 I do not think that Belichick will be the coach in New England next year.

Speaker 1 I don't think he'll get fired.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I think they will mutually.

Speaker 1 It feels like there's so much smoke, right?

Speaker 7 I agree. I just.

Speaker 1 think it would be stupid. I think you should keep him, but it does feel like

Speaker 1 there was so much talk about it that at this point, Kraft might be just

Speaker 1 like taking time almost as like we're really thinking about it hard. But he's already made his mind up.

Speaker 4 Iberflues, will he be the coach next year?

Speaker 1 I don't know. It's been very quiet, Hallis Hall.

Speaker 4 He should not be the coach.

Speaker 1 I agree, but I think he is. So Ryan pulls whatever he decides.

Speaker 4 Would you rather have Eberflues or Harbaugh as your coach?

Speaker 4 Would you rather have Eberflux? Off one, huh?

Speaker 4 Would you rather have Eberflues or Mike Rabel as coach?

Speaker 1 I made free Harbaugh of Chicago merch. I've tweeted that hype video a billion times.
I watched it when I was sitting. This is a sad thing I'm about to say, folks.
I got home last night at like 11 p.m.

Speaker 1 in my car, in my

Speaker 1 garage, put the garage down, keep the car on, which

Speaker 1 wasn't smart. People probably like, is he suicidal? No.
And then I watched the video that I made of Harbaugh de Chicago. Yeah, you got to.
By myself in my car, and I got excited.

Speaker 1 I would take Vrabel in a heartbeat. Yeah.
In a fucking heartbeat.

Speaker 4 There's almost every coach that's,

Speaker 4 this is like the biggest stack of coaches that we have that teams should be excited about in the offseason.

Speaker 1 And it's also like Vrabel would instill man football. I want a culture change.
Yeah. You got to either trust that the culture's going the right way or you need a culture change.

Speaker 1 I would like Vrabel or Harbaugh. Yes, very much so.

Speaker 1 I think Harbaugh's Harbaugh's going to go to the Chargers or the Raiders. Eagles.
What the fuck? You and PFT just showed up in the Harbaugh shit. You have a coach.
Yeah. You do too.
Yeah, Max does.

Speaker 1 You have a coach. You're in the playoffs.
You were in the Super Bowl last year. You can't fucking spoil this.

Speaker 4 God damn it. Listen, big cat.
You can't spoil if you're favorites. Right now, you're married.
You got a spirit. The separation date is not expired.
You are married to Matt Eberflus.

Speaker 4 I'm out here single-ridden to mingle.

Speaker 1 I want to go on a nice long walk with my coach wife, and whoops, she fell off a cliff.

Speaker 4 Trial separation.

Speaker 1 My bad. I was telling you, hey, honey, just go take a picture.
Go, go, Matt. Go out there a little bit farther.

Speaker 1 Sorry.

Speaker 4 I'm single.

Speaker 4 I'm like Casey Anthony right now.

Speaker 4 I'm looking for somebody to tame me.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but you have the worst

Speaker 5 package.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's

Speaker 4 why Casey Anthony.

Speaker 1 Yes, correct.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, I actually, I would say that my package right now is outstanding.

Speaker 1 No, PFT's going. to go.
PFT's going to the bar. He's putting on the spanks.
He's got a lot of makeup on. He's like, I'm hoping that someone gets drunk enough to take me home.

Speaker 4 No, but that was me. That was me three years ago when I had Dan Snyder and I had all this shit going on, the worst stadium in the NFL.
Now, I just came into some money. I'm like, I'm an older woman.

Speaker 4 Maybe my parents just died, left me a shitload of money. I got a really nice house.
Everything's on the up and up. I'm so fertile.
I still got my figure. I still got my figure, Max.

Speaker 7 But it's going to take a little bit of time for that

Speaker 1 house to get to put all the furniture in.

Speaker 5 Like, Big Cat and I got houses that are ready to go.

Speaker 4 No, my house is spectacular. No, it's not.
It's a brand new house. I just got a new house.
It's a brand new house.

Speaker 8 This feels like a Colin Coward segment.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Because it's about divorce?

Speaker 1 No, it's just being a house. I feel like, though, if you went to your brand new house and you did an inspection, you'd be like, wait, they didn't build this house correctly.

Speaker 4 But guess what? I'm having my new house built in an even better part of town, and it's going to be awesome.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but we can also see the new house

Speaker 1 name. The person who built the new house also has a house down the street, and that house isn't doing much better than it was.

Speaker 4 Well, my house will be fine once it gets built. And I also have, we're going to change our name entirely.
So if you don't like the name, it's gone.

Speaker 4 I really feel like I should be, I got a tremendous package to offer.

Speaker 1 Also, cap.

Speaker 4 I got like so much cap.

Speaker 1 The owner of your house, you'd be like, hey,

Speaker 1 good one, Hank. The owner of your house, you'd be like, wait, has he ever built a house before? He's like, oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 A few years ago, he said that he was building this enormous mansion that was going to be the most incredible house we've ever seen, and then it ended up being just the same house.

Speaker 1 Well, he's actually just the same house, he's just losing the Celtics every year. I knew it.
I thought you were going that way.

Speaker 4 He's built two houses before.

Speaker 1 Sixes are bad.

Speaker 4 He's got two houses, and we've got to be.

Speaker 1 Are you talking about the mother-fudding devils?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm talking about the devils. Jack Hughes, ever heard of them? And we broke his neck.

Speaker 4 And we processed it. We did the process.

Speaker 4 Canadian website. Yeah.

Speaker 4 It'll be fantastic. Just come visit.
Just come for a long weekend and you can

Speaker 4 have a night with me. Have a night with Josh Harris.
Have a long night with Magic Johnson. That'll be nice.
Okay. And then we'll see how you're walking the next day.

Speaker 1 One night in Magic. Okay.

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Speaker 1 Should we transition to

Speaker 1 Max? What do you got for us? All right, ready? Yeah, so this is, for people who don't know, there's something going on with the Philadelphia Flyers.

Speaker 1 We don't really know what. I've seen some tweets.
I saw Witt had to like apologize to someone.

Speaker 7 This is a Biz and Witt.

Speaker 7 I love it when they get in their Big J game and just start attacking journalists.

Speaker 1 And did they make a mistake this time? No. I think

Speaker 1 the only tweet I saw was Wit said someone was someone's dad, but it's not his dad. I saw people.
That was a while ago. Oh, okay.

Speaker 5 They were using that as credibility

Speaker 1 for him talking to you. Oh, that's bullshit.
We stand with Witt and Biz, obviously, but I just saw that one tweet where Wit was like, turns out he's not his dad.

Speaker 1 I was like, wait, what is Wit into right now?

Speaker 7 Yeah, Biz is attacking people's haircuts. Fucking hell.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Biz tweet is so funny.

Speaker 4 Also, R.A. got involved too for a little bit.
That's the secret weapon.

Speaker 4 That's how you know shit's getting involved.

Speaker 1 R.A. is the

Speaker 1 R.A. is the dude from the Irish dude from Braveheart, where he just shows up.
He's like, it's my island.

Speaker 4 My fucking island.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and he's just like, well, this guy's crazy, but we want him on our side. All right, ready? Yep.
Yeah. All right.

Speaker 5 2002, Flyers drafted

Speaker 1 2022. Let's take this back to the Big Bang, Max.
2002. Fuck, not off to a hot start.

Speaker 5 Not off to a hot start.

Speaker 5 2022.

Speaker 5 Flyers drafted Cutter Gautier fifth overall.

Speaker 5 Then he went to Boston College. Didn't know you could do that in hockey.
Yeah. You could draft someone and they still go to college.
Yes. I kind of like that.
They should put that in other sports.

Speaker 7 No, they used to. Like Larry Bird.
That's like a lot of people.

Speaker 1 Do you know that they can also, guys who play a full college hockey season can then just go right there in the playoffs. That happens.
Yes.

Speaker 5 Very cool. Very cool.
They should do that in other sports.

Speaker 5 He kind of rose up the prospect prospect rankings in the past two years. And the climax of that was a couple weeks ago he led Team USA in points when they won the World Juniors.

Speaker 4 That was like last week.

Speaker 5 So everyone in Philly was super excited. They were like, this guy just led USA to a goal.

Speaker 5 He's about to be the future of our franchise for forever.

Speaker 5 Fast forward to last night, out of nowhere, bombshell, trade

Speaker 5 Goutier, Cutter, to the Ducks.

Speaker 1 Wait, he's American?

Speaker 4 He is American. His name is what?

Speaker 5 Cutter Gautier.

Speaker 5 I looked at a pronunciation.

Speaker 7 G-O-E-T-H-E?

Speaker 4 Q-A-T-A-R.

Speaker 5 Looks like Gauthier G-A-A-R-Gerda. Okay.
But I looked up pronunciation. I'm happy we got him on our side.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 Okay, so he gets traded.

Speaker 5 He gets traded last night. There was of nowhere.

Speaker 7 There was a video circulating when he was in juniors. They were asking

Speaker 7 all their players, their favorite teams growing up, and he was like, I'm Cutter, play for the Flyers. Don't know how that's going to work out.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 7 he grew up a huge Sid the Kid Penguins.

Speaker 1 Huge Penguins.

Speaker 5 So, like, in his

Speaker 5 draft day, like, you know, they all wear the jerseys and the hats as soon as they get drafted. They were like, who's your biggest

Speaker 5 idol growing up? And it was Sidney Crosby, and everyone in Philly was like, yeah, this is a little weird. Like, why would you say Sidney Crosby?

Speaker 1 He's a huge flyer.

Speaker 4 Would Flyers fan? Should he say Eric Andross?

Speaker 5 No, but whatever. People were like, that's weird.
You shouldn't have said that.

Speaker 5 But it was like, for the most part, kept under wraps since he told the team that he didn't want to play for them uh like three months after he was drafted so apparently what a diehard fan so apparently he was drafted by the flyers on draft that day he goes i'm built to be a flyer i want to be a flyer then a few months later said he never wants to play in philly ghosted every phone call from danny rear the gm apparently over juniors

Speaker 5 the front office of the flyers flew to sweden to meet with him and try and work everything out he refused to meet with them.

Speaker 5 What? Didn't even see them when they were in Sweden for the juniors.

Speaker 4 He was on a mission over there. He had a job to do.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 5 And then it turns out that he just, the rumor is that he just doesn't want to play for Tordorello. He thinks that he's too much of an old-fashioned, like, hard-ass coach.

Speaker 4 That was going to be my speculations. This could all just boil down strictly to two words, John Tortorella.

Speaker 5 And that's what it's looking like. And then Torz was asked about it last night.
Great quote. I don't know cutter from a hole in the wall.

Speaker 1 Awesome.

Speaker 5 He's like,

Speaker 5 I'm worried about this team and Drysdale, who the guy they got back is coming in.

Speaker 4 Towards NBS hints. Yes.

Speaker 5 Okay. Philly Twitter freaks out last night, as you can imagine.

Speaker 5 Like, death threats, like bad, like very bad Philly Twitter came out.

Speaker 4 You went full Philly.

Speaker 5 I did not go full Philly. Well, Philly, I would go to the Philippines.

Speaker 4 Like, when we talk to you, this is us talking to Philadelphia.

Speaker 5 But not this Philadelphia.

Speaker 1 Would the representative from Philadelphia please stand up? That's you.

Speaker 5 Okay, that would be me.

Speaker 4 So you guys went full Philly on him? Yes.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 The delegation of Philadelphia fans. So

Speaker 5 there's a flyers

Speaker 1 reporter. I can tell Max.
This is right where Max is getting confused.

Speaker 5 No, there's a Flyers reporter.

Speaker 1 He's confusing the first thing. The first word.
This is where it really got confusing because you could tell his cadence slowed down. He had the beginning nailed.

Speaker 5 No, I think I still got it. I still have it.

Speaker 5 Well, this is where the chicklets guys are.

Speaker 4 All right, so after you threatened his life, what happened?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 After you threw

Speaker 1 batteries at his mom.

Speaker 5 We haven't even got to the threatening of lives.

Speaker 5 Just some fucked up shit.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's coming? Okay.

Speaker 1 Jimmy Hayes is getting involved. Okay.

Speaker 5 So this guy,

Speaker 5 Aunt San Filippo, who is a flyers reporter,

Speaker 5 went on a podcast

Speaker 5 as this shit was going on. He goes, I talked to somebody within the organization, and Kevin Hayes had his fingerprints all over this.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 5 What? Because apparently Kevin Hayes and Cutter,

Speaker 5 that was like Cutter's only relationship within the team. He went on a podcast, I guess, like a couple years ago, and they talked, are you friends with anyone on the team?

Speaker 5 The only person he said is Kevin Hayes. So that is why I guess some people thought, like, okay, maybe

Speaker 1 Kevin Hayes plays for the Blues, man. He plays for the Blues.

Speaker 4 Where did Kevin Hayes go to college, Max?

Speaker 4 Don't know. Boston College.
Boston.

Speaker 1 Oh. Same place.
That makes sense. Yeah.

Speaker 5 That makes sense.

Speaker 4 Not at the same time.

Speaker 4 They just both went to Boston College.

Speaker 5 So I was looking at this in real time. So I saw that podcast clip.

Speaker 1 What does that mean?

Speaker 5 Like as it was going down on Twitter, first I saw the podcast clip of Cutter being like, Kevin Hayes is my only friend on the flyers. Kevin Hayes leaves.

Speaker 5 Whatever. And then this guy says, I talked to somebody within the organization.
It's Kevin Hayes. He tries to confirm what people are saying on Twitter.

Speaker 5 Then the Chicklets guys get involved and start saying

Speaker 1 Kevin Hayes.

Speaker 5 They start defending Kevin Hayes. Wiz tweets, I just talked to Hayes.

Speaker 1 What I said.

Speaker 1 Slow down, Max.

Speaker 5 WizWit. Wizwit.
That's where I was going.

Speaker 1 Raulesteaks.

Speaker 4 Raul Wizanet. Wit tweets.

Speaker 5 I just.

Speaker 4 Can we do a mock-up of what Raul Wizinet looks like?

Speaker 7 Okay.

Speaker 7 Man. Big ears, big nose.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 Mustache, probably.

Speaker 5 I need to say the tweet. I'm on a roll.

Speaker 4 I just talked to Hazy.

Speaker 5 I'm on a roll. I just talked to Hazy asking his opinion on the guy he said was behind Cutter Goti requesting a trade.

Speaker 5 He started laughing and said, whoever this is is a complete clown, and anyone who thinks I had anything to do with this doesn't have a brain.

Speaker 5 Then a blues reporter also had a conversation with Hayes, and he goes, Yeah, I think it's complete bullshit, honestly.

Speaker 5 I think those two guys acted like complete pieces of shit, to be honest, making shit up. Now I'm going to bed and waking up with death threats and people wanting my family dead.

Speaker 4 Okay, so this Ant San Flippo guy. Correct.
That guy, he's a reporter in Philadelphia.

Speaker 5 Yeah, he has like a podcast.

Speaker 4 This sounds like Big Ant, like a guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Cuzo. Is this Cuz? Yes.
So, wait, which side do you. All right, keep going.
And, well, that's basically it. So, apparently, like, Philly.

Speaker 7 And people also are saying they're happy that Cutter Hayes' brother was dead. Yeah, what?

Speaker 5 No, so that's like the family, want my family dead. And then he went on to say, like, people were saying stuff like shit about his family.

Speaker 1 Jesus Christ, Philly, that's not great. Not good.
Not good.

Speaker 5 Disavow.

Speaker 1 So, which side do you land on, though?

Speaker 5 What do you mean?

Speaker 1 Cutter or the Flyers?

Speaker 1 Seems like it's the Flyers. Oh.

Speaker 4 Wait. Yeah, so you're against Weeks.
Or not Weeks. Hayes.

Speaker 5 No, Hayes had nothing to do with it.

Speaker 4 No, but you're saying that the Flyers are in the right. They're in the right, that he got talked out a little bit.

Speaker 5 The team of the Flyers are in the right for trading him.

Speaker 1 Right, but are you team like Flyers that it's misinformation that Kevin Hayes had something to do with it?

Speaker 5 Kevin Hayes had nothing to do with it.

Speaker 1 Okay, and that Cutter Gautier is like Malc Tent.

Speaker 4 Like, which side do you think? You're anti-Cutter.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 5 Anti-cutter. Okay.

Speaker 1 I think we're pro-cutter. No, he's anti-cutter.
No, because he's friends with Kevin Hayes.

Speaker 5 But Kevin Hayes said he had nothing to do with it.

Speaker 1 I'm pro-Kevin Hayes. We're anti-Cutter.
If you're pro-Kevin Hayes, don't you have to be pro-Cutter? Because they're best friends.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 5 Kevin Hayes said he had nothing to do with it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, I agree.

Speaker 5 And we're very much anti-the guy who made up the report about Kevin Hayes.

Speaker 4 I'm pro-Hayes.

Speaker 5 I'm pro-Hayes.

Speaker 1 Pro-Cutter.

Speaker 4 I'm pro-Hayes. No.

Speaker 1 Pro-Cutter. Pro-Cutter.

Speaker 4 And pro-Flyer. All right, well, I'm going to call Wit.

Speaker 1 I think everybody's in the right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to call Wit.

Speaker 4 Is Wiz? Is WizWit? This picture is unbelievable.

Speaker 1 Hello. Hey, so we're breaking down this entire

Speaker 1 flyers shit right now on the podcast.

Speaker 1 What stuff?

Speaker 1 The flyers and cutter goatee or whatever. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, what do you mean, what stuff? It's like all you've been talking about the last two days.

Speaker 1 You're cut out, but I don't have good service at my house. Okay, well, pay your Wi-Fi bill.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you'd think you'd be able to afford that.

Speaker 1 maybe less golf just want me to answer the question okay

Speaker 1 all right so max just broke down the whole thing to us all we want to know is can we be pro-cutter pro-Kevin hays anti-flyers is that the right spot to be in that is the perfect okay okay no no no no no no no no no no no no Philadelphia is just full of such scumbags and dirt balls and disavows and it's the worst city in the country and I hate everything about it and I always have okay so I think we cleared up the people from from Philly that listen to Chick-house.

Speaker 1 Those guys are cool. And the AWLs who are from Philly.

Speaker 5 And the producers that are from Philly.

Speaker 1 No, we don't care about you, Max. All right.
Thank you, Witt. Also, Jersey Jerry was practicing his first hockey skills challenge.
I think he broke his collarbone.

Speaker 1 Beat up Jerry McDavid. I can't wait to see that.

Speaker 1 See ya. Bye.

Speaker 1 Okay, so we're good. Yeah, so we're fine.
Pro Cutter, pro Kevin Hayes. Fuck the Flyers.

Speaker 4 I don't have a problem with the Flyers. I think that everybody.

Speaker 1 Sounds like they're doing misinformation on this poor kid.

Speaker 4 I'm anti-the person that made up the story.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 5 That is.

Speaker 1 But the story

Speaker 1 was someone in the Flyers organization.

Speaker 5 No, he was in the organization. He was like a blogger.

Speaker 1 No, but

Speaker 1 that's not the source. He's in that.

Speaker 4 Ant just made it up.

Speaker 1 I think he made it up. No.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I actually agree.

Speaker 1 I think he made it up.

Speaker 4 Ant got the scoop from the Flyers.

Speaker 1 I'm pro-Flyers trading him. That makes sense.
But it sounds like the Flyers are maybe doing a little damage control here and sourcing stuff.

Speaker 5 This guy said he's making Hayes himself said that that guy was making shit up.

Speaker 1 You don't think he talked to anyone on the Flyers? Didn't he say according to a source?

Speaker 4 Yeah, so I think.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but I think that that was bullshit.

Speaker 4 There's probably some guy on the Flyers that's pissed off that Cutter doesn't want to play for them, and then he does some dot connecting, and then he calls his boy Ant.

Speaker 4 He's like, Ant, you're never going to believe the scoop. And then Ant runs with it.
It sounds to me like the Flyers

Speaker 4 kind of ratted him out a little bit.

Speaker 1 I'm anti-that guy as well. Okay, so we could be pro-Flyers, but anti-the guy who's putting out misinformation, which might be Mr.
Flyer himself. Is there a Mr.
Flyer?

Speaker 5 Danny Breere, GM of the Flyers.

Speaker 7 Has he asked himself why the Flyers are such a shit organization that he doesn't want to play for them, Max?

Speaker 1 That's a good question.

Speaker 4 This type of thing would never happen in D.C.

Speaker 5 No, Flyers are doing pretty good this year, and they shouldn't be good.

Speaker 5 That was other information that I got.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 But it is kind of embarrassing for you. Like, the Blackhawks have never had a scandal.

Speaker 1 Memes laughed too quickly at that.

Speaker 4 Not with any of their prospects.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 you forgot about that.

Speaker 1 Not good. Not good.

Speaker 1 You are

Speaker 1 now Mr. Flyer, and they're being good this year.
They're good this year.

Speaker 5 They're better than they should be. They were supposed to be the second.
Chief told me they have the second worst roster in the NHL.

Speaker 1 Blackhawks have the first. Blackhawks have the worst.

Speaker 5 But they were in second place. I think they

Speaker 1 had a bit of a

Speaker 1 third place.

Speaker 1 Well, so here's a number.

Speaker 5 At one point, memes, back me up.

Speaker 1 Max.

Speaker 1 Memes, back me up. At one point, Metropolitan Division.
Max, as

Speaker 1 well. As a follow-up to this, I love the passion.
You said yourself this is the most prep you've ever done for this show.

Speaker 1 I think as a follow-up, Max, you have to now follow the Flyers, and hopefully they don't lose in terrible fashion in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 5 I got to learn some guys' names. I was looking at the roster last night.
I think I had, there was like three that were lost.

Speaker 1 So forget Cutter Gautier's name.

Speaker 5 Well, that guy was never on the team.

Speaker 1 Where did he get traded to?

Speaker 5 The Ducks. The Ducks.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 That's nice life. Quack.

Speaker 5 Yeah, he didn't, I mean, that guy's a...

Speaker 4 Cutter's a pussy.

Speaker 1 That's a fact.

Speaker 1 No, we're pro-Cutter. No, we're anti-Cutter.
No.

Speaker 5 I'm anti-Cutter.

Speaker 1 No, because he's friends with Kevin Hayes, who's friends with us. No.

Speaker 5 But I think I can be pro-Kevin Hayes, anti-Cutter.

Speaker 4 Why are you against this guy wanting to play for Philadelphia? Like, it seems like.

Speaker 5 But he told Philly that he wanted to play for Philly and then changed his mind two months later.

Speaker 1 And he affirmed a cliche answer. I'd never heard that.
No, but

Speaker 1 going through draft prep. I want to play here.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Guys do that all the time.

Speaker 1 You know, shit, do they? You want to get drafted? Yes.

Speaker 5 Isn't that what Eli did?

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, Eli is

Speaker 1 a long time ago.

Speaker 5 All right. Well, you said that who does that? I just gave you an answer.
Bam.

Speaker 4 Okay. Well,

Speaker 4 this guy just said, like, yeah, I'll play for whoever drafts me. You drafted him.

Speaker 5 And then

Speaker 4 I actually understand his point of view.

Speaker 4 Like, if you know it's not going to be a fit, if you don't want to play play for torts and you know that it's not a fit, why not just be like, hey, please stop.

Speaker 1 And by the time you're in the face, and if one of your close friends tells you this organization sucks. And by the way, or maybe doesn't even tell you that.

Speaker 4 On draft day. Then somebody makes that up.

Speaker 5 Danny Breyer is the one who said this, that he was told by him on draft day, I am built to be a flyer. I want to be a flyer.
Before they drafted him.

Speaker 4 This is a quote from who?

Speaker 5 From Danny Breere.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 4 the GM said that he really wanted to be a flyer.

Speaker 1 Because he's about to draft this kid, and he wants everyone to think that it's okay. No,

Speaker 5 he said that, what?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 We're saying Danny Breer probably lied.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 I wish I knew more about this, but because this guy's bad.

Speaker 1 Cutter pussy.

Speaker 1 Okay. For sure.
Philly's coming back out.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 5 every Philly fan who's been mean to Kevin Hayes is a piece of shit. Piece of shit, piece of garbage,

Speaker 4 low-life human being. I would also like Max saying cutter pussy on the soundboard.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Thanks.
Appreciate it. All right.
That was good, Max. I'm proud of you.
Thanks. Did a lot of research.
I know it was taxing, I can tell.

Speaker 5 I was excited.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It was fun.

Speaker 1 Sometimes you get ahead of your words. I know.
Whiz. Sometimes you get behind your words.

Speaker 5 And I said 2002. Whiz and 2002.
Those are my two slip-ups for sure.

Speaker 4 Would you almost rather the flyers be inconsequential so you don't have to worry about them?

Speaker 5 No, it was kind of fun. I was like excited to read about the drama and kind of get some Philly information.

Speaker 4 For like an hour and a half, but I'm talking about the money.

Speaker 5 And then the Kevin A shit started. I was like,

Speaker 5 I don't like want to be looped in with that.

Speaker 4 In your real life, do you want to expend any emotional energy on the Flyers when it's six or season? No.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Playoffs.
Also, Flyers don't get enough credit for having a very unique color in pro sports.

Speaker 1 Orange, black. Yeah, you don't really see that hue of orange in pro sports.

Speaker 4 Kind of the Bengals.

Speaker 1 A little bit, but the Bengals are

Speaker 1 just as much

Speaker 1 black as orange, right?

Speaker 1 I'm talking about the actual jerseys.

Speaker 4 They pop. The Flyers have a good logo, too.
Yeah, they like the wings.

Speaker 1 San Francisco Giants meme said, Yes, but that also is a little bit more like they the flyers have a lot more orange.

Speaker 8 It's called flyers orange, the flyers have a ton of orange MS172C.

Speaker 1 Thanks, Jake. Very cool.

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Speaker 1 Okay, Hank, Hot C Cool Throne.

Speaker 7 The Hot Sea is the NBA.

Speaker 7 Yeah, They're doing some funky shit with the Celtics. Only team without double-digit losses last night against the Pacers, as I'm sure most people are watching during the national championship game.

Speaker 7 Jalen Brown had a game-tying shot attempt that they called a foul. They reviewed the tape.
He clearly got hit in the head. They reversed it, gave the Pacers the ball back.
Celtics lose by one.

Speaker 7 Very questionable. Jalen Brown, who is the head of the Players Association, was going after them.

Speaker 7 And then LeBron James, who is a known speaker of facts, went out of his way on Twitter to say, see what I'm saying? JB clearly got hit in the back of the head.

Speaker 7 They reviewed the play just to reverse it and

Speaker 7 say he didn't. Man, what? Good ass game to have an ending like that.
And y'all see why I'd be going ape shit out there when it happens.

Speaker 7 Very questionable. You know it's very, very questionable.

Speaker 1 I know it's a bad call when Hank, I saw him quote tweet LeBron saying facts. Yeah, and he love facts.

Speaker 7 He loves.

Speaker 4 And when LeBron's dropping the gorilla emoji and then the poop emoji. Yeah.
Ape shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 So, yeah, very, very questionable.

Speaker 1 Very, very questionable. Also, consider makes no sense.

Speaker 4 LeBron got fouled on that one play, remember? Was that Tatum that got him on the arm on that layup?

Speaker 1 And Pat Bev took the camera? Yeah.

Speaker 4 That was hilarious. Remember that play? That was very funny.

Speaker 1 Did you think it was back then, Hammond?

Speaker 7 But it's one thing. Yeah, I said that was one of the funniest things of all time by Pat Bev for sure.
But it's one thing to not call foul.

Speaker 7 That happens, you know, even like last night with the Michigan holding and stuff like that.

Speaker 7 If you call it

Speaker 7 or don't call it whatever, if you go to the tape, look at a clear foul, and then reverse it, very questionable.

Speaker 7 Fact or fiction.

Speaker 1 Fact.

Speaker 1 Did we ever find out how long Tyrese Halburn's out for? That was... Oh, did you see him get carried off? He did the splits.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 Lord carry him now.

Speaker 4 Maybe he pooped himself like Paul Pierce.

Speaker 1 That was bad.

Speaker 4 That felt like a groin.

Speaker 1 Very, very bad.

Speaker 7 And then my cool throne is movies that are catered directly to me in the past couple days.

Speaker 1 I got a whale movie coming out?

Speaker 7 There was no, that would really, that would be the trifecta. Apple TV is coming out with a documentary called The Dynasty of the New England Patriots.
Belichick's in it. Brady's in it.

Speaker 7 The whole crew is in it. Because, you know, there's been sometimes it's like the Brady documentary, but Belichick's not in it.
When is it coming out?

Speaker 7 I don't know. February, I think.

Speaker 1 There was a working theory someone had online.

Speaker 1 I can't remember who it was, so I apologize, that Kraft was was waiting to fire Belichick to the end of the season so he could put it at the end of the documentary. Oh,

Speaker 1 February 16th.

Speaker 7 That actually, when I saw this, this came out today, Tuesday, the trailer. That made me think that it was over for some reason.
It was just like Belichick's in it, Brady's in it. Because

Speaker 7 there has been documentaries the past few years where some of them are in it, some of them aren't in it. But this one being everyone made me feel like this is kind of like the

Speaker 1 closing chapter. Yeah.

Speaker 4 The era's tour movie. Yeah.
But to be, you know what Taylor Swift did? She then re-released the movie with bonus features on it later. Maybe they release the movie.
Belichick comes back.

Speaker 4 Then they re-release it next year with all the footage from the next season.

Speaker 1 Yes, the bonus footage of the 6- and 11. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I'm excited for that. And then on

Speaker 7 Sunday.

Speaker 7 Yeah. Although I might have got got on this one.

Speaker 1 Should be good.

Speaker 7 21 Savage. There's people being like, who wants a 21 Savage movie? Me.

Speaker 7 This is me.

Speaker 7 It's Lucas from Stranger Things playing young 21 Savage. Donald Glover playing old 21 Savage.
It's called The American Dream. They said it's coming out July 4th.

Speaker 7 I mean, I couldn't be more excited for that in my life. Love Donald Glover.
Love 21 Savage.

Speaker 1 That trailer was weird.

Speaker 7 But then today, 21 Savage announces album, which is also called The American Dream. So there's a chance that it was just like an album promo rollout thing.

Speaker 4 Like it was a movie, yeah.

Speaker 7 So that would suck.

Speaker 7 Because I was so excited for the movie. They might saw people being like, no one wants this.
Who wants a 21 Savage movie? I do.

Speaker 1 They might see it.

Speaker 7 21 Savage, Donald Glover. Like,

Speaker 7 that's literally

Speaker 7 catered directly to me. Yeah.

Speaker 7 So I hope it's real. I'm leaning towards it not being real and it just being towards like an album rollout thing, but I'm hoping it's real.
Okay.

Speaker 4 I would want to see a Takashi 6ix9ine biopic. That would be interesting.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 Just good fellas. He's a rat.

Speaker 4 Crazy shit.

Speaker 1 Okay, good job, Rink.

Speaker 4 My hot seat is the Sopranos. Yeah.
The Sopranos are on the hot seat because they're releasing on TikTok a 25-second and under-per-episode summary.

Speaker 1 They literally are just releasing part of my take.

Speaker 4 They're doing part of my take. I just don't, I don't know how you would include the entire scene where Tony kills Christopher by suffocating him in the car after they get into the accident.

Speaker 1 Was that before or after Adriana got caught?

Speaker 4 I think that was after she got caught. Are you talking about when Silvio drove her out to the woods and then took her out of the car and shot her in the head because she was a rat?

Speaker 4 Or how do you do the scene where Bobby Bacola gets shot in the train shop, the Toy Train's job? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Phil Leotardo's head got rolled over.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that was tough. Cracked his head, splattered it.
Or the one at the end where in the very last scene where it cuts to black and you don't know if Tony died or not.

Speaker 4 They're going to have to fill this all in. They're going to have to fill this in.

Speaker 4 I don't know if you can do that in 25 seconds or less.

Speaker 1 Hank, will you be watching? I would actually like you to watch and give us a review.

Speaker 1 It's 20 seconds.

Speaker 1 Each episode.

Speaker 7 Do what I did the first time and get to season three and then you'll spoil it.

Speaker 4 We would never spoil it.

Speaker 1 We would never spoil it for you.

Speaker 4 Okay, I'm excited for that. My other hot seat is Boeing.
Boeing Airplanes. Did you see the news about the 17379 MAX?

Speaker 4 It had a door that got blown out. It had an explosive decompressorization at 16,000 feet, and everybody was buckled in.
It was before you were allowed to unbuckle and go to the bathroom.

Speaker 4 But if people were walking down the aisle when that happened,

Speaker 4 people could have been sucked out of the window and just thrown out 16,000 feet, fall to earth, die. But nobody was.
What do you mean?

Speaker 7 What if they land in water?

Speaker 1 Good point, Henry. What about the two people sitting next to the window? They were buckled up.

Speaker 1 Well, I think it was an open seat.

Speaker 1 I think that was a conspiracy theory that people are throwing out there now.

Speaker 4 What, that it was...

Speaker 1 There were two people who just didn't show up for the flight.

Speaker 4 Oh, is that true?

Speaker 1 Jake, where did you hear this?

Speaker 8 I saw somewhere on Twitter that it was an open seat, the one right next to the window.

Speaker 4 Yeah, no, I don't think so. I think that if you're buckled up and that happens, chances are you're probably going to stay in your seat.
It's going to suck a lot of people. Because it was an seat.

Speaker 4 Like the iPhone got sucked out. I think two people's iPhones got.
So they found the door. Boeing was also the maker of the 737 8 MAX that had all those crashes a few years ago.

Speaker 4 So if it's, I don't know what kind of flights we have planned soon, but if it's Boeing, I ain't going.

Speaker 1 I'm out on Boeing.

Speaker 4 You can find out. Oh, okay.
I don't want to fly on a Boeing anytime soon. What's the other one?

Speaker 4 You've got a couple other out. Airbus.
Airbus. It's your big competitor.
Airbus. My cool throne is Mac Jones.

Speaker 4 Mac Jones of the Cool Throne, he put on seven to eight pounds of muscle in the last couple weeks. Wow.
Put that report out. Fat.
So he might be back. No muscle.

Speaker 1 No. Muscle.
Muscle, muscle. Muscle.

Speaker 4 Like everybody else, the seven to eight pounds that we put on over the holidays, that's all muscle. Muscle.
It's all muscle, not fat. So Mac Jones is looking for.

Speaker 4 He's looking for a landing spot next year, much like Boeing.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Okay, my hot seat is EA Sports. I don't, this started as a rumor online, but I just read rumors and I'm like, oh, that's a fact.

Speaker 1 We were supposed to possibly get an announcement about when the NCAA football game was coming out last night, and we didn't. So I'm mad.
I want to know. Dougs is coming back whenever it comes back.

Speaker 1 I'm getting back in the lap. Where the fuck is this game?

Speaker 4 Is it going to come out this offseason?

Speaker 1 They said this summer, but remember it was delayed a year already. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Suspect.

Speaker 4 Yeah, something weird's going on. I just hope that they don't fuck around with it too much.
Just give us the exact same game.

Speaker 1 Don't make it like Madden, like where it's hard to control the players.

Speaker 4 Give us the exact same game.

Speaker 1 It's going to be Madden.

Speaker 4 As 2014, but but I said don't.

Speaker 4 Let us do like modern NIL shit.

Speaker 1 Did you not understand what I just said? I said don't. But they will.
But I said don't. But they will.
Okay. Well, if they're listening to this, don't, please.
My cool throne is the Memphis Grizzlies.

Speaker 1 Unfortunately, John Moran is out for the year. Torn Labrum sucks.

Speaker 4 Big Cat, is that a shooting arm?

Speaker 1 That was a Mincy joke. That was great last night.
Mincy was like, I was going to say that.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so we found out about John Moran on the live stream, and I was like, I wonder if that's a shooting arm. And then Mincy goes, oh, I was about to say, I wonder if it's a shooting arm.

Speaker 1 I was like, PFC,

Speaker 1 you got to give him a few seconds. Credit to Mincy.

Speaker 4 Mincy had it first, I will say.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 not the worst thing, because the Grizzlies are bad, and they are one of the worst teams in the league right now. So maybe you get a really good draft pick.

Speaker 1 Like, that's how you got to think with these things.

Speaker 4 It sucks. It sucks, though.
It sucks.

Speaker 1 But if you get a lottery pick out of this, someone to pair with John Morant, that's pretty cool.

Speaker 4 Have you seen the lottery this year, though?

Speaker 1 We got, what, a Euro guy?

Speaker 4 We got like two Euro guys, an Aussie guy.

Speaker 1 That's about it. Cooper Flag, next up.
Yep. Next year.

Speaker 4 Sag for Flag. Yeah.
That's what you got to do. All right.

Speaker 1 Hot seat, Cool Trone Jake.

Speaker 8 My hot seat is Nike.

Speaker 8 After 27 years, Tiger Woods is a free agent.

Speaker 1 Yes. Wow.
Apparel-wise.

Speaker 1 I was a little confused by the... the people who were like,

Speaker 1 like, this is so devastating. Like, all the memories.
Like, it's Tiger Woods is the memories, not Nike.

Speaker 4 Golf fans are weird.

Speaker 1 Like, that, I just didn't really understand that. Like, yeah, I get it.
He was wearing a Nike shirt when he hit all those shots, but it was Tiger Woods.

Speaker 4 It's the swooshes, big cat.

Speaker 1 Like, when I think of Tiger Woods, I think, like, best golfer ever. I'm not, like, Nike.

Speaker 4 When I think of Tiger Woods, I think of father to Best Golfer Ever, Charlie.

Speaker 4 I wonder if Nike needs room in their budget for Charlie.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Tiger actually.

Speaker 1 Were you one of these people who was like, man, end of an era?

Speaker 8 No, I think he should join either Team Roeback or the Barcelona store. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I was saying, like,

Speaker 1 what if he won the Masters next year in an Anish shirt? That'd be great. It'd be awesome.

Speaker 8 Yeah, we have great golf shirts on our stores.

Speaker 4 I thought he should go to Big Dogs.

Speaker 1 That'd be great, right? Big Dogs.

Speaker 4 You've seen the meme.

Speaker 1 They haven't done anything with it.

Speaker 1 They've been meeting about it, too.

Speaker 4 Big Dogs is fantastic. If you can't run with Big Dogs, stay on the porch.

Speaker 1 I literally had a meeting with them. I was like, I want to buy it.
And they're just like, we were rebranding. And I was like, to what? Getting in the team.
Big Dogs dogs work.

Speaker 4 That meme came out of nowhere.

Speaker 4 Big dog meme from Tiger Woods. I feel like that's got to be an industry plant.

Speaker 4 My theory was because when Nike first announced it, that they were moving on, they never

Speaker 4 officially said, we're done doing business with Tiger Woods. It was all like, we'd like to thank Tiger for all the work that he's done with us.
Looking forward to the next chap, things like that.

Speaker 4 Is there any chance they just make a Tiger Woods brand, like Jordan brand?

Speaker 1 Oh, they could. Yeah.

Speaker 4 That he owns and then.

Speaker 1 Either that or Uniglow.

Speaker 4 Uniglow? Yeah. What's that?

Speaker 1 That's like the Chinese one that Reddit has. Yeah, Frederick has it.
Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 8 You saw him at Brunch, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I did. It's awesome.
I did. I saw him at Brunch once.

Speaker 4 Where else could he go? Yeah, Tiger Woods. Listen, Tiger Woods should just make his own brand.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Just be called Twitter.
Tiger Woods brand. Yeah.
I like it.

Speaker 8 And speaking of Tiger, my cool throne is our friends at Foreplay. They have a video of Tiger coming out today.
Very happy for that.

Speaker 1 It's their white whale. Big, big moment for them.
Go watch the video.

Speaker 1 I know that Riggs, Frankie, Trent, Rapport, Lurch, I don't know if he's in the video, but they're all the biggest Tiger fans ever.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Trent said today that he would never be a golfer. If it wasn't for Tiger Woods, the podcast would not exist.

Speaker 1 I mean, I think that's a lot of golfers in the world. Sure.
That's awesome.

Speaker 7 I wouldn't be a golfer if it wasn't for Four Play.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 They inspired me by getting inspired by Tiger.

Speaker 1 You also wouldn't be a golfer if you never realized that golf is a way to get out of work.

Speaker 7 no i just like to golf oh okay

Speaker 11 good times with the boys does zumbies does zombies but yeah go watch it because it's gonna be great uh okay let's get to brian baldinger baldy before we do that pfd you got a quick word from one of our sponsors yeah before we get all protein bars generally taste the same but not one bars one made protein bars are actually delicious with reese's and hershey's only one reese's peanut butter lover's protein bar is made with reese's peanut butter and only one hershey's cookies and cream protein bars is made with hershey's cookie bits while delivering 18 grams of protein and 3 grams of sugar.

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Speaker 4 Now, here's Baldi.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on one of our favorite guests. He is a true football guy through and through.
It is Brian Baldinger. Baldy, you can see him on NFL Network, Fox Sports, Compass Media Network.

Speaker 1 He's everywhere.

Speaker 1 Also, his film breakdowns are the best. If you don't follow him on Twitter, it's Baldy NFL at Baldy NFL.
Baldy, we're here. It is playoff football time.

Speaker 1 I'm actually going to let you lead us in the first question. What is the game you're most excited for, the matchup you're most excited to watch?

Speaker 12 The Rams. The Rams coming to Detroit.
Because that's, you know, this is number two seed, six seed, you know, it's like, or seven seed. I mean, this game to me has upset written all over it.

Speaker 12 And I think because of the way the Rams were playing, I mean, even the way they played against San Francisco, forget about them winning the game and Carson Wentz.

Speaker 12 Just the way they played the game up front on the offensive line. They played their starters.
up front. They got a good day's of work.

Speaker 12 We talk about Puka as, you know, this sensational rookie, which he is. That guy's blocking is unbelievable.

Speaker 12 And they asked the receivers to block like tight ends at the line, and it really helps in the run game. They did it two years ago.
Cooper Cup was excellent.

Speaker 12 Robert Woods, all these guys that played on the edge. If you play for the Rams, you're going to block at the point of attack.
And the way that they do it, it's crafty,

Speaker 12 but it's really effective. And that showed up on Sunday.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So about the Rams,

Speaker 1 the side of the ball that doesn't get talked about, their defense. What are you seeing? Because it's a lot of guys that people don't know.
It's a young defense. It's supposed to be a rebuilding year.

Speaker 1 What are they doing that gives you confidence that the Rams can win the game maybe on Sunday night, but also be a dangerous team in the NFC playoffs and make a little run here?

Speaker 12 Well, you got to look at these rookies, Kobe Turner, Byron Young, young guys like Bobby Brown.

Speaker 12 Like people don't know those names, but all they do is they line up every week and they play and all they've done is gotten better and so they still do a lot of things moving aaron donald around he's still aaron donald like if you don't cut him off on the backside he's gonna make every tackle he's gonna be around the quarterback he's gonna be like just that nasty freaking gnat you can't get rid of he's there but they attack they they they attack they play a lot of different coverages um they're good enough on the outside you're not going to shut teams down on the outside but they're good enough with witherspoon and what they have kobe bryant uh they're good enough out up on the outside because they can still pressure you on the inside.

Speaker 12 So they do that. And then, you know, they just got this coach that just knows how to,

Speaker 12 like, you know, if he was, if we were playing pickup basketball, you'd want him on your side. He just knows how to organize.
Like, he's demanding. And yet, at the same time, like, he's encouraging.

Speaker 12 Like, all the things you got to do to be a great coach.

Speaker 4 He definitely insists on being skinned right off the bat. He claimed that one.

Speaker 4 Would you say that they've changed something about their team? Like, I feel like a month, month and a half into the season, nobody was really impressed with the Rams that much.

Speaker 4 And then they got dangerous. They got hot.
So what changed?

Speaker 12 Kyron Williams. So if you look at Kyron now, he didn't play last week, but he leads all running backs, including McCaffrey, with 95 yards a game.
Like that guy is just a total back.

Speaker 12 And I know he was fifth round out of Notre Dame. And guys I know that watch Notre Dame football never thought he was going to be this guy, but he's everything you want in a running back.

Speaker 12 I think he's the best running back McVay's had.

Speaker 12 And so, not that it's a long list or anything, but this guy is a difference maker. And what you see now is like staffers underneath the center.
I like my quarterback under center.

Speaker 12 I don't want him in shotgun every play.

Speaker 12 But he's under center, a lot of play action.

Speaker 12 Demarcus Robinson has come in, give him a big lift down the stretch. And so they've got four guys, 2-2-Atwell, Higby.
They got enough to go carve you up.

Speaker 12 But now the running game has really taken over.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and Kyron Williams' blocking is also out of this world goods. Yes, he is everything.

Speaker 12 Yeah, you're doing your film study because, like, that guy's you got to protect your quarterback. They're going to like, there's an old thing like the Bob, the back on backer.

Speaker 12 Like, we're going to blitz our backer because he's going to beat the running back. Well, okay, that guy's stout now.
He's out.

Speaker 12 He's going to get right underneath your chin, give you a little chin music. Like, he's excellent at in protection.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, I'm very excited for that game as well.
Bouncing around.

Speaker 1 So, the Eagles, their defense has been much maligned.

Speaker 1 That has been the story. I have been of the mindset that their offense is really what's like kind of letting them down because it just looks clunky.

Speaker 1 It has felt like there's been no rhythm. I know they're dealing with injuries now.
What is it, though, when you're watching scheme-wise or

Speaker 1 when you're just sitting down and looking at the tape, what are they doing wrong? And why do they feel so different than last year on the offense?

Speaker 12 i feel like if i was playing defense against the eagles that i would just be calling their plays out like there's like honestly i i know guys at the bar in south philly that are calling the same plays out like they're just very predictable that's one and then like look they played wink martindale last week against the giants all wink does is pressure you like he was pressuring aaron rodgers in preseason when the jets you know played the giants so

Speaker 12 And they acted like they weren't prepared for it because they had no, like when they came after him, Isaiah Simmons coming free, like they had no answer. Like, what's your answer?

Speaker 12 What should Jalen Hurts do if they've got a free hitter coming out? Is there a hot read? Is there a side adjust? Is somebody cutting the route off?

Speaker 12 Like, their answer is Jalen getting out of the pocket and scrambling and running, which was a disaster last week. They didn't make one good play down the field.
And so they look like.

Speaker 12 underwhelming and underprepared for what these teams are going to do to him. And look, that's all Todd Bowles does.
Like that guy is drawing up pressures right now in Tampa.

Speaker 12 Like, they better be ready for it because I don't think Tampa is a great team, but I know what Todd Bowles can do and what he has done.

Speaker 12 And, you know, it's like the old saying, like, sometimes you get the bull, but sometimes the bull gets you.

Speaker 12 Well, the bulls getting the Eagles' offense right now, and they better be ready for it because it's coming. I don't care who's playing receiver, it doesn't make any difference.

Speaker 12 Jalen needs an out if they're going to come after him the way they can, whether it's single blitzes or overload pressures or zone pressures, like they have every single pressure you can get to speed up the quarterback's process.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so it sounds like you're saying it's mostly the coaching and not the player's execution.

Speaker 12 Well, I think,

Speaker 12 well, I think it's the coaches from the standpoint.

Speaker 12 Like Javon Hargrave came out yesterday, the day before, and said he couldn't believe the difference between how they practice in San Francisco and how they practice in Philly.

Speaker 12 Nobody wants to hear this in philadelphia but he said we practice so much harder in san francisco because i couldn't even believe it like in philly like we were just getting you know making sure we were fresh for game day and i think some of that shows up i think some of that shows up and i'm not here to criticize nick nick had a team in the super bowl last year he got a 4 to 11 one team in the playoffs the next year he's done some great things but i don't know how demanding they are of some of these players And sometimes you just got to play football.

Speaker 1 That's a fact.

Speaker 1 That's the only recipe is you got to play some more football.

Speaker 1 I got a crazy stat for you, and I want to know what you're seeing, and if there's a remedy, if the remedy maybe is Mike McCarthy has to do a better job advocating for his guys, did you know that Micah Parsons has not had a holding penalty called on him in the last 11 games?

Speaker 1 And he's getting a ton of pressures, but there's been no holding penalties.

Speaker 1 Is it that he's so fast that he can't be held? Or is it that Mike McCarthy needs to be like, hey, you guys got to start looking for this because my guy gets held and he's dominant.

Speaker 12 So, I play.

Speaker 12 So, I'm going to ask you the question because I do a video on Micah every week.

Speaker 12 Sometimes Micah just stands up there and he goes, Look, don't ask, just go watch Baldi's videos and he'll show you what I did. Because

Speaker 12 the guy, there's nobody else that compares to Micah in this league. Nobody is as freakishly fast, changes direction.

Speaker 12 The guy was a great wrestler, like he's he's a cat on a marble table, like you can't get him off his feet.

Speaker 12 So, but you know, when I play with Reggie White, they held Reggie all the time, And so they didn't throw the flag.

Speaker 12 And so what happens, though, is go and look on the other side and see if they're calling holding calls against Terrence Steele or, you know, Tyron Smith. Like sometimes they just even it out.

Speaker 1 Right. And they don't

Speaker 12 because Micah's. So I don't know, like, that'd be the next stat to look at.

Speaker 12 how many holding calls they're actually getting on that side of the ball because sometimes it just sort of cancels out yeah but i think micah does wince there's this weird thing right now because i know everybody screenshots these holds.

Speaker 12 And like I did one on Max Crosby yesterday. I'm like, this is ridiculous.
Like they got two guys just literally arms around them. And there's the umpire right there.
Nothing's coming out.

Speaker 12 But I think sometimes there's this thing.

Speaker 12 And TJ Watt was telling me this year that when these guys do this arm under rip move and they're turning the corner and these guys got them like by an arm like this around their neck, they're not calling it.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 12 But if you screenshot it, it's a clear hole. So

Speaker 12 a fine line between a hold because sometimes there isn't a hold and they call a hold on some stupid things.

Speaker 12 And some things look flagrant, they don't call it, but still, 11 weeks, and Mike is not getting a holding call. That's absurd.
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 I looked at it. I was like, wait, maybe he's just so fast, no one can hold him.
They can't get their hands on him.

Speaker 12 No, they can get their hands on him.

Speaker 1 That's part of the problem. They get their hands off.
Yeah, kind of slow.

Speaker 4 You got to do a better job acting. Just start to flail the arms and just fall down.

Speaker 12 Yeah, but I hate that, though. Like, that's the flop thing, right?

Speaker 1 And I see guys getting it, the guys are getting it, yeah, they're getting that call, yeah, but I hate that flop thing, man.

Speaker 12 Yeah, like I hate it, like, if I, if somebody did that to me, like, I'd, I'd be on them, like, hard, give them something to flop about on the next play, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 Um, I want to go out to Kansas City real quick. We got the Dolphins, the Chiefs, it's going to be like 10 degrees out there, it's going to feel like it's zero degrees.

Speaker 4 Uh, everything seems to be going against the Dolphins right now.

Speaker 4 I saw a crazy stat two earlier today that said that the Patriots actually beat more teams above 500 than the Dolphins did this season, which is crazy to think about.

Speaker 4 I mean, the Dolphins, they blew some teams out, but they haven't really beaten any good teams yet. Do they have any chance going to Kansas City and beating Pat Mahomes?

Speaker 12 They do. Like if they get their...

Speaker 12 Like if they get their four by 100 meter relay team healthy of Tyreek and Waddle and A-chan and Mostert, if they're reasonably healthy, like that speed changes things.

Speaker 12 First of all, Tua gets rid of the ball a lot faster when all those guys are out there.

Speaker 12 And then you look at the things that Mike McDaniel does, and they're so subtle, but just some of the, even the play that they ran last week over and over, where Tua is like faking a handoff and there's nobody to fake it to.

Speaker 12 Yet the defense is biting on the fake. And then he's flipping it behind him to the back going the other way.
Like they got a lot of yards on that play last week.

Speaker 12 Like he's going to have some new plays. some new formations.
He just does.

Speaker 12 He's just innovative. He's like, okay, what do we have this week? Who are we going against? Oh, they corner cap blitz more than anybody in the league in Kansas City.

Speaker 12 Spags is coming after us with his corners. Well, we're going to catch him on one of these corner blitzes, and there's going to be nobody out there with one of these track stars to go run.

Speaker 12 So I actually

Speaker 12 is down on the Dolphins.

Speaker 12 I know the stats and I know the teams they beaten, but I'm not as down on them as other people are because I know when this thing clicks, Like, I don't care what defense you're in.

Speaker 12 They can make you look bad.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Now, this is a dumb question, but but I'm wondering if you've ever seen it.

Speaker 1 When you're watching film study, can you tell when a team can't deal with the cold? Because we have obviously a theory with the Dolphins, the candy ass uniforms going into the cold.

Speaker 1 It just doesn't look like cold weather football. Can you tell that a team like, oh, that guy, he doesn't really want to be out there.
That guy, he's maybe not feeling comfortable. Can you see that?

Speaker 1 Is that a factor?

Speaker 12 I think it's more of a factor with teams and tackling.

Speaker 12 If they want to be as aggressive tackling,

Speaker 12 That's what I would look for. You can see it.
You can see it because some guys don't want to, you know, it's a business decision. Or, you know, I can't, my hands are numb.

Speaker 12 Like, I'm just going to throw my body in there and I'm not going to wrap up. I think you see it more on defense.
I was one of those idiots

Speaker 12 that refused to ever put a long sleeve shirt on, no matter how cold it was.

Speaker 1 I like that.

Speaker 12 Like, I was just a mentality, like, I'm not going to be cold. Like, I remember Reggie White told me the story one time, like, he was playing in the state championship in Tennessee.

Speaker 12 And, you know, he was from an an inner city school and and they played this bunch of country kids that were in tearaway jerseys and they came out there on a field where it was 18 degrees outside and he knew that we were going to get beat like these kids just handle the cold better than we did yeah

Speaker 12 some guys just bundle up and they got the vaseline on themselves and they got their gloves on and they got their fanny packs on and their hand warmers and you're like it is football like your body's going to get it's it's it's not going to feel it like if the adrenaline's running right, you're not going to feel the cold.

Speaker 12 Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's not the mentality of just saying, I'm, I'm better than the cold. And you start the game and you're 1-0 against the cold.
You've already beaten the cold. The other guy's getting their ass kicked.

Speaker 12 Like, you know, like Bud Grant never allowed heaters on a sideline with Minnesota bike.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 12 Like this is, and Bud Grant never wore a jacket. You know, like he set the tone.
And there is a mentality to that when.

Speaker 12 like i i i hear it might be as cold as 17 below in kansas city with the windshield yeah so who knows i mean we we get fascinated by by temperatures and stuff but look the ground could be frozen maybe that's a factor yeah like do you have any footing like i you know there's a lot of factors that go into it how's the wind blowing how's it going to affect the ball like i always think this

Speaker 12 windy conditions to me are worse than freezing conditions because you can't hear when it's windy you can't hear signals you can't hear snap counts you can't hear the quarterback you you see these guys they're turning their ears their ear hole to whoever's speaking to them so otherwise the wind just you know basically clouds all the sound.

Speaker 4 I also feel like Andy Reid against McDaniel in the in the cold. Like Andy's built for the cold.
And he doesn't get.

Speaker 1 He'd wear shorts if he could.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he wears shorts every single practice.

Speaker 1 McDaniel's going to be bundled up.

Speaker 4 He's going to have six coats on.

Speaker 12 Yeah, but he's going to have his off-whites on. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 12 They're traveling.

Speaker 1 That is true. It's very true.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 I want to talk about some of the job openings in the NFL right now. What are the most attractive openings?

Speaker 12 Well, I think the Chargers is attractive. You know, I mean, it's a good place to live.
You got a quarterback that I don't think we've seen the best of.

Speaker 12 You know, so I think, you know, that's always a starting point. Quarterbacks get coaches fired when they can't play and they can't perform.
So that's like the death of a coach.

Speaker 12 But I think, you know, the Chargers jumps out at me, a team that has vastly underperformed, that needs a dose of toughness all the way around.

Speaker 12 Like that team, I think, could be fixed up pretty quickly.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'd agree with that. It does feel like if you're signing up for Justin Herbert, that's a pretty pretty good bet for a coach coming in.

Speaker 4 But counterpoint, couldn't having a quarterback like Justin Herbert, if you don't have things available around him, if you don't have cap space, which they kind of don't, if you don't have necessarily the most support from ownership, couldn't having a pretty good quarterback be a detriment in the fact that it would get you fired more quickly?

Speaker 12 Well, I mean, I'm coming in there and packing a running game. I'm going to, I'm going to.
You know, I'm going to find runners.

Speaker 12 I'm going to find, you know, if I have to upgrade right tackle, different positions, like I'm going to get the running game going with the Chargers, just the way the Rams did.

Speaker 12 And it's going to make life for Justin Herber a lot better, no matter who he's throwing to right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
Another dumb question.

Speaker 1 Joe Flacco, Josh Allen. I'm mentioning those two names because this is the dumb question.

Speaker 1 Obviously, you don't want turnovers, but if you're the Browns and you're the Bills, is there a part of you that's like, this is what our guy is?

Speaker 1 We can live with one, maybe two, but because we know the upside and then pushing the ball down the field will get us two, maybe three. Is that ever a thought?

Speaker 1 Or is it you guys got to take care of the ball better because it's playoff football and we can't have these mistakes anymore?

Speaker 12 I'm with you. I'm with you.
And I don't think it's a dumb question. Like, I think you just got to, you have to attack.
You can't play fearful. You can't play not to turn the ball over.

Speaker 12 You have to attack. And that's what both of them do.
And I think like the

Speaker 12 first interception that Josh Allen threw to Gabe Davis is an option route. He threw it one way.
The receiver went the other way. That's going to happen.

Speaker 12 Just going to happen when you're throwing the ball on timing. You got to live with it.
The second one, where he's rolling to his right, look, the line broke down.

Speaker 12 He was flushed and he makes his throw in the end zone. Elliott intercepts it.
I just have to live with it because he made so many other great plays. His freaking knuckles are bleeding out there.

Speaker 12 He's leaving it on the field. Like, I just think you have to live with it.
Same thing with Joe. Joe's going to throw some interceptions.

Speaker 12 You just got to tell your defense, like, you go do your job. You know, either get off the field, limit to him with a field goal, no matter where you are, like you got to play transition defense.

Speaker 12 But he's going to help win us the game too, with his rocket arm and how he sees the field. And I don't know.
And Joku seems like he's always open. He's going to find him.

Speaker 12 So I would say live with it. Yeah.
And don't live in fear of it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
No, I agree. I mean, there is definitely.

Speaker 1 We were joking earlier in the season.

Speaker 1 CJ Stroud obviously is incredible season, but when he had that stretch where he didn't throw an interception, I was like, I kind of like my guy to throw one every now and then because you know that he's taking risks.

Speaker 1 That doesn't really apply for CJ because he does push the ball downfield. But you see sometimes where quarterbacks will like, oh, no interceptions.
Like, yeah, but was he ever taking risks?

Speaker 12 Right. No, I mean, look at Mahomes.
Look at how Mahomes plays. Like, he turns the ball over.
He doesn't fumble a lot, but he throws interceptions. But like, look at all the plays that he makes.

Speaker 12 And so to me, I mean, that was the problem, honestly, with that. Exactly what you're describing is what Alex Smith was.

Speaker 12 Alex Smith was a very good quarterback, good leader, prepared, made good plays, but he wouldn't make the big play because he didn't want to turn it over. And he was cognizant of that.

Speaker 12 And so there's been quarterbacks that have played, they don't win championships like that. You have to attack.

Speaker 12 You're going to have to make the, and the bigger the game gets, you know, from wild card divisional championship, the bigger the game gets,

Speaker 12 the more, the bigger the throws you have to make because you're going to see better defenses in tighter spots. and more pressure moments.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 I think Alex Smith went, what, like a year and a half without throwing a touchdown touchdown to a wide receiver at one point. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He was just, it was an insane status. It's not a good stat.

Speaker 4 It's not, but they were still, they were winning football games somehow, but never any real important ones.

Speaker 4 What about Baltimore? So you were just talking about like the difference in the playoffs. And, you know, as you play better teams, the windows get a little bit tighter to fit into.

Speaker 4 With Lamar, the knock against him so far has been he's not really able to do in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 Do you think this is the year that Lamar Jackson and the Ravens, they can put it together, get to the Super Bowl?

Speaker 12 I do. I do think it is.
We're going to see, you know, it's always that thing of rest versus rust, you know, at this time of the year when you're sitting and not playing.

Speaker 12 So he's going to go basically three weeks without playing a football game. And you were going to come out and, you know, the last time we saw him, he was awesome.

Speaker 12 So I think the difference this year with him is I used to say, even when he was winning the MVP, unanimously winning the MVP, and he was running for all these yards, I'm like, I don't care if you beat Cincinnati 35 to three.

Speaker 12 Like, you've got to work on the passing game. And they weren't working on the passing game under the old offensive coordinator.
They were just winning games.

Speaker 12 Like, I think they've really improved the passing game. These receivers are all involved.

Speaker 12 Even the loss, in some ways, the loss of Mark Andrews, as hard as it is for that team to overcome such a great player, it has forced Lamar to go elsewhere with the ball.

Speaker 12 And he's finding Rashad Bateman now and Aguilar and likely.

Speaker 12 And he's thrown the way, like, there was a time, I remember I did this breakdown on him a a couple years ago, and he had thrown like six interceptions in a short period of span.

Speaker 12 And all of the interceptions were passes to Andrews. Like he was forcing it to him.

Speaker 12 And now I feel like Lamar is actually seeing the field better and getting the ball to different guys in different parts of the field, including Zay Jones and Odell Beckham and the whole group.

Speaker 12 So he's improved to the point where he should win playoff games now and a lot of playoff games.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 This might be an easy answer because it might just be the two one seeds, but this has been on my mind after after watching the national championship on Monday night because I thought the thing that was most remarkable was Michigan tackling.

Speaker 1 They were so good at tackling. I think they missed one tackle all night.
All they did was, if you catch the ball, you're tackled.

Speaker 1 And like sometimes football is that easy where the team that tackles better can win the game. So give me the best tackling team in the AFC and the NFC.

Speaker 12 I think the 49ers the best tackling team. I mean, it just starts with Fred Warner.
Like, he's just a machine, a tackling machine, machine, but Dre Greenlaw, like Bosa, they're excellent tacklers.

Speaker 12 You don't get anything beyond when they hit you, the play ends. And so I think they're an excellent tackling team.
Baldwin's just a great defensive team.

Speaker 12 They play defense a little bit different than everybody else. Like this matchup zone is very difficult to figure out.

Speaker 12 You don't know what they're going to do and who's really going to stick to you until the ball snapped, but they give you a lot of looks.

Speaker 12 But Roquan's not missing a tackle. You know, he's just not.

Speaker 1 And so I think the two number one seeds are number one seeds for a reason isn't it funny too because uh the linebacker position has kind like there's been a little bit of a phase out just in terms of pay and obviously roquan was a bear and then you know the bears are like we're going to go a different direction but it is so funny when you when you get down to it it's like the teams with these elite linebackers still matter so much because of the tackling and the tone they set No doubt and the impact they make in the like

Speaker 12 the most valuable real estate in a football game is the middle of the field and that's where the middle linebackers live.

Speaker 12 And when your middle linebacker, look, Fred Warner's not the fastest one, but his decision making is as fast as anybody. So he's always flying to the ball.

Speaker 12 And then Roquan might be the fastest. So when your middle linebacker is fast, your defense looks faster.

Speaker 12 Like they just, you know, if you make a mistake and teams make mistakes, whether it's in communication or breakdowns, whatever, like you can clean up the mistakes quicker.

Speaker 12 And that's what those guys do. And I think that we have missed out on the linebacker play.
Philadelphia desperately needs linebackers.

Speaker 12 Their best linebacker starts with the Chicago Bears and TJ Edwards. You know, that's still their best linebacker.
And they made a decision not to pay him, and they have paid for it all year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 What about the Dallas Cowboys? So the book on them is you can run the ball against them.

Speaker 4 You know, preferably if they're not at home, if they're on the road, you can beat them. But you got the Packers coming to town.
Do the Packers have a chance? I'll ask you this way.

Speaker 4 Which seven seed has a better chance at winning in the first round, the Steelers or the Packers? Good question.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 12 The Steelers going into Buffalo without TJ Watt. They're going to be challenged.
And the way Buffalo plays defense, I think Mason Rudolph is going to struggle a little bit.

Speaker 12 I would say the Packers, because Aaron Jones right now missed about a month in the middle of the season, but nobody's run for more yards last three weeks than Aaron Jones.

Speaker 12 That guy's an unbelievable player.

Speaker 12 Like that draft of McCaffrey and Fournette and all those guys that came out, Kamara, like nobody scored more touchdowns in this league than Aaron Jones over that span of time.

Speaker 12 That guy doesn't miss a hole. And he's fresh as can be right.
So I feel like, and the last time Aaron Jones went, he's from El Paso, Texas. He prides himself, the 9-1-5 in El Paso.

Speaker 12 The last time he went to Dallas, he did something nobody's ever done in the history of the Cowboys. He ran for four touchdowns against them.

Speaker 12 Like just a big deal, some of these kids come back to Texas. All their friends and family are in the stands.
Like that kid's, Dallas has their hands full with Aaron Jones.

Speaker 12 Now, Jordan Love and defense, all this other stuff is real. It's going to be a great game.
But if you ask me who has a better chance of an upset, I'd say Green Bay has a better chance.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. That's, I mean, they are alive, and Jordan Love is playing incredible football.
It's much to my chagrin,

Speaker 1 it's a fact.

Speaker 1 He looks like Aaron Rodgers in some of the throws that he makes. It's crazy.
Over and over again. Yeah.
Over and over.

Speaker 12 In fact, he threw a couple plays last week in Chicago. It was classic Aaron Rodgers.
It was these smoke routes with the corners 10 yards off. The hell with it.

Speaker 12 I'm just getting it out there to Jaden Reed, let him go get six yards. Yeah.
Like, you know, you get 12 men on the field, like the ball's being snapped.

Speaker 12 Like, some of the little tricks that Aaron had, he's adopting. He's using it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So we talked about the Rams.
Let's talk about the Lions real quick because the Lions, obviously, their defense has been the big issue this year. They did get a little healthy.

Speaker 1 They got Alim McNeil back, who's very important. They got C.J.
Garter Johnson back. Do you think the Rams or the Lions, sorry, can kind of put it back together defensively?

Speaker 1 I thought they were pretty good against the Cowboys on that Saturday night game.

Speaker 1 Do you see, are you optimistic that this is a team, it's funny, we always go back to that Colts team that won the Super Bowl where they were terrible on defense and then they just, it clicked, and Bob Sanders and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 Is there something that could be happening there for the Lions where you could see it kind of come back together?

Speaker 12 I can see it, but

Speaker 12 I haven't seen enough of it to just convincingly say it.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 12 You know, like I haven't seen it enough.

Speaker 12 You know, you think about Thanksgiving Day, you know, against Green Bay and, you know, they got carved up. So you just look at, they went to Baltimore and they didn't show up.

Speaker 12 You know, and so you just see some of these games where they just get picked apart. And this passing game, you know, the passing game has to be as precise as any diamond cutter out there.

Speaker 12 So like, that's how the Rams passing game is and how it operates right now.

Speaker 12 You know,

Speaker 12 they better play really fast.

Speaker 12 I know this Ifiatu Melafanu, malafonu if i'm pronouncing his name right he's made a big difference he's come in there got a lot of takeaways they look a lot better when they're taking the ball away when they're not taking it away they look very susceptible yeah yeah uh i i do love your film breakdowns i love how excited you get about guys there's some guys that you just watch and you're like that's a baldy guy so give me a give me a guy that's in the playoffs right now maybe not a superstar but a guy that you've personally gotten excited about like this left guard like left guards are people too let's face it right?

Speaker 12 So this left guard of the Rams are rookie, Steve Avila. He's from TCU.
I nickname him the wide because all he does is just watch stuff up.

Speaker 12 Like he's, he's, is, he's, he's super wide and he's super powerful. And like I just watched him last week take, watch him take Javon Hargrave, who's in the Pro Bowl, like right off the ball.

Speaker 12 Like it's hard to find earth movers. Like I watched Steve Avila, 73 left guard, and I go, that guy's going to play football in this league for 10 years.

Speaker 12 And we're probably never going to mention his name because he's just, he doesn't commit penalties, doesn't make bad plays. He's steady as can be, exactly what you want.
And yet, like, he's so young.

Speaker 12 He's like, he plays a good pad level. He gets underneath guys and he just moves people.
And they're hard to find. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I like that. The WAD.

Speaker 4 That's a great nickname. Yeah.
I also want to know from your perspective as an offensive lineman, what are the mechanics of reporting? Did the Lions do anything wrong against the Cowboys by trying to

Speaker 4 confuse either the opponent or you know, they had an interesting substitution, but it seemed to me like it was pretty straightforward.

Speaker 12 It was. It was.
Like, I was that guy,

Speaker 12 you know, that would go and play tight end at times, you know, in certain situations. I'd go from guard to tight end.
I had to go report.

Speaker 12 Nothing like that's 40 years ago, 30 years ago. Like, none of that has changed.
You go to the referee, you report, you like, make sure he sees you. And that's what Taylor Decker did.
Now, what was,

Speaker 12 you know, were all the other guys necessary to be there? You know,

Speaker 12 probably not. But at the same time, maybe that was some subterfuge on Detroit's part, but only one guy reported.
Like, I'm eligible.

Speaker 12 So you can have all these different, because Ben Johnson has all these different formations in Detroit all the time. So sometimes you just go, I've never seen that before.
It happens all the time.

Speaker 12 But like in that situation, he reported, Brad Allen reported the different guy reporting.

Speaker 12 So he didn't get it right from the very beginning, whether it was just because he'd already reported in the game, game, he was just writing it down. He wasn't really paying attention.

Speaker 12 I'm not here to the referees have a tough job, but I, that to me was about as clear-cut as you can get. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
So I got one last question. I know you got to run, Baldy.
We'd love having you on.

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Speaker 1 Give me your Super Bowl and then maybe give me the, ooh, this could be crazy Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Like you see it, like the, you know, so who you actually think, and then give us a crazy one where it's like these two teams, people aren't really talking about them. They could be there in February.

Speaker 1 Good enough.

Speaker 12 I'll give you just chalk, San Francisco, Baltimore, because I think they've been the two best teams all year.

Speaker 12 So that's

Speaker 12 how I'm thinking. But if you want to get crazy here, I'd go Rams.
I'd go Rams right now. And I mean, I'll go real crazy.
I'll go Rams, Miami Dolphins.

Speaker 1 Ooh, okay. That is crazy.
That is crazy.

Speaker 4 You're crazy, Baldy.

Speaker 1 That is crazy. Dolphins having to win two cold games and then the third, maybe? That's crazy.

Speaker 12 Well, you know, like, sometimes players just need to have that carrot dangling in front of them. Like, Tyree Kill going in there to Kansas City.

Speaker 12 Like, that kid, like, first of all, he's motivated to begin with. I don't think the cold weather is going to bother him.

Speaker 12 I don't know how his legs are right now. I mean, he was a candidate until three weeks ago for the MVP of the league.
So, and who knows what happens. But like, that guy is going to be

Speaker 12 he's going to, like, there's nothing more that a player needs than to go show the team that you made the biggest mistake of your life.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true. That's true.

Speaker 4 I have one last, last question here. So, we both want Coach Harbaugh as our coach for next year.

Speaker 1 Well, PFT decided this last night. I've wanted Coach Harbaugh forever.

Speaker 4 Well, I love Coach Harbaugh, always have loved the man. And

Speaker 4 if we can't get Belichick, I think Harbaugh would be a great addition to the Commanders. Do you think that Harbaugh is more or less likely to leave Michigan after winning a national championship?

Speaker 12 Oh, he's gone. He's gone.

Speaker 12 He's going to win a Super Bowl championship. It's already, like, his mind's already, like, they might celebrate today and have some fun in Ann Arbor if they should.

Speaker 12 But I think he's on his way to the NFL.

Speaker 1 Wow. Okay.
Okay. All right.
Well, Baldi, thank you as always. Playoff football.
We'll talk to you again maybe before the Super Bowl. Love having you on.
Appreciate everything, and we'll see you soon.

Speaker 12 All right. Thanks, guys.
Thanks for having me, man.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's wrap up with some guys on chicks.

Speaker 1 Friday's show, by the way, we're going to talk some more football. I think we're going to have a short Italian writer on the show.
He's going to have to answer for his misdeeds.

Speaker 4 Mike Florio?

Speaker 1 No, I said short, not short face. Hmm.

Speaker 1 And maybe also,

Speaker 1 I'll say this, I'll tease it this way: an answer to a question we have asked many, many times. Another football person.
Hmm. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What? What does that look? We're going to find out the answer to DVOA.

Speaker 1 Got it. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Hey, part of my take, Draft Gods.

Speaker 1 I've been with my boyfriend for a little over two years.

Speaker 7 We haven't really talked about marriage, but we live together and I think we're probably headed in that direction.

Speaker 7 How do I tell him if he ever does want to propose that I don't want an engagement ring because I think they're kind of a waste of money?

Speaker 7 I'm worried it's too forward to tell him that if marriage isn't on its horizon currently, or what if it is and he already bought the ring?

Speaker 7 Should I just let the cards fall where they may? Ryan Poles is running the number one pick through Big Hat. I figured I should do the same with my important question.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so I think you might be overthinking this.

Speaker 4 I think all you have to do is just be like, I don't want an engagement ring. And he'll be like, awesome.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you could do a soft launch, too. You could just be like, you see, this person got engaged.
Ugh. Engagement rings are so tacky, I would never wear one.

Speaker 4 That's pretty easy. Or watch Blood Diamond together? Yeah.
Like, oh, I can't believe

Speaker 4 all this stuff that goes on across the world for diamonds. I would never want one of those.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't go direct, though,

Speaker 1 and say, I don't want an engagement ring because then he's going to freak out and be like, what the fuck? I don't think so. I didn't think about it.
I wasn't even thinking about an engagement ring.

Speaker 4 I don't think so. I think after two years, it's an appropriate amount of time to just put that out there.
Two years.

Speaker 1 Guys are dumb.

Speaker 1 Guys are dumb.

Speaker 1 You got to remember, guys are dumb. Like, no, I'm saying he might not.
He might just be like, yeah, this is my girlfriend. She can be my girlfriend for a really long time.

Speaker 4 I think two years is long enough, though, to say, I don't want an engagement ring.

Speaker 1 And then he'll be like, good, you weren't going to get one.

Speaker 4 Yeah, then win-win.

Speaker 1 We're breaking up. Also, just get a dog.
And then that gets the whole thing going faster, too.

Speaker 7 Hello, Big Hat and PFT. My boyfriend and I go to Ohio State.
Both huge Ohio State fans. We are both seniors, so we've never seen a win against Michigan while being at school.

Speaker 7 However, my boyfriend is also a die-hard Lions fans.

Speaker 1 Oof.

Speaker 7 He keeps talking about after that Michigan National Championship that if the Lions lose this playoff game to Stafford, he'll be done with sports. I guess I'm asking, what should I do for him?

Speaker 7 Should I comfort him and watch with him or let him watch alone? I'm just scared if they do lose, how crushed he'll be.

Speaker 1 Blumpkin.

Speaker 1 Give him a sympathy, Blumpkin.

Speaker 4 This might be a...

Speaker 4 A game that you start with him, and then if it's going well, just like slowly inch your way out of the room and let him be alone with his thoughts at the end, because he's going to be in a dark place.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you got to read the room. Read the room, try to figure out where it's going.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that sucks because he probably knows a lot of people that are Michigan fans and are rubbing and facing it, but then they,

Speaker 1 yeah, that's bad. You have to prepare for the worst.

Speaker 4 So I would say, like, if they lose that game, get ready to just have him stay home from work, call in like seamless Uber Eats, take care of all his food.

Speaker 4 He's just going to be one to be locked in like a dark, sad room and be sad for a long time. That's a tough week.
Yeah. Tough, tough week.

Speaker 1 Tough, tough week. The Stafford team.
You know what? Just win the game. Just win the game.
How about that? Restore the Roar.

Speaker 4 Win the game.

Speaker 7 It's also a Jared Goff revenge game. Not enough people are talking about that.

Speaker 1 No, that's a fact. Big time.
Buy him tickets to the game.

Speaker 4 But. But if they lose.

Speaker 1 But you won't have to deal with being around him.

Speaker 1 Buy him two tickets to the game.

Speaker 4 He's a college student.

Speaker 1 Yeah, buy him two tickets to the game.

Speaker 7 Think she's got money like that?

Speaker 1 Sell some blood plasma. Do what we all did.
Sell some cum.

Speaker 4 Buy two tickets to the game.

Speaker 1 Can girls sell cum? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Probably, it's probably worth way more than guy cum.

Speaker 1 Yeah, squirt. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's a popular soda.

Speaker 4 Take a bath and then put the bath water into bottles and then sell that online.

Speaker 1 Sell some feet picks.

Speaker 7 Hey, PMT.

Speaker 7 I recently asked my ex-boyfriend if he thought one of his best friends would be interested interested in going to a co-ed volleyball league with some of my friends.

Speaker 7 The question seemed to backfire once he said, IDK, and I wish someone would ask me to do those type of things before ghosting me. I'll add I broke up with him and it was a little messy.
Wait,

Speaker 1 start that again? I'm sorry.

Speaker 7 She asked her ex-boyfriend

Speaker 1 if

Speaker 7 he thought one of his friends would want to play on a co-ed volleyball league. Terrible person.
Her and her girlfriend. Terrible person.

Speaker 7 Was I wrong for asking if his good friend wanted to play on our team?

Speaker 4 Terrible person. Yeah, it seems like

Speaker 4 you should have at least asked, like, hey, do you and this person want to play?

Speaker 1 It is a very tricky situation.

Speaker 7 And she broke up with him.

Speaker 1 Co-ed sports are fun, and you get in your like 20s. It's like, hey, let's play some co-ed sports, go to the bar after.
But then you do run the risk.

Speaker 1 Like, I know that I've been on softball teams where one of my teammates broke up with his girlfriend. His girlfriend was good at softball.
And we're like, can we still have her on the team? You can't.

Speaker 1 But you think about it.

Speaker 4 He's definitely also thinking in the back of his head, you're asking me for my friend to join your team so that you can hook up with him.

Speaker 7 Yeah. 100%.

Speaker 1 But also, he's really good at volleyball for sure. Because

Speaker 1 she's definitely also doing it because he's probably a ringer at volleyball.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he's probably tall and strong. Hey, can I have your tall, strong friend's number so I can ask him to play volleyball with me? Probably can't.

Speaker 7 Me and my girlfriend. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Can carry a woman. Yeah, toss her around.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it's fucked up.

Speaker 7 All right, last one. How big of an age gap is too big? I'm 32, and I've been seeing a guy who's 24.

Speaker 1 I don't feel like

Speaker 7 steal, but he asked me if I remember 9-11.

Speaker 1 I do. He doesn't.

Speaker 7 And that kind of sent me into a spiral.

Speaker 4 Oh, Sean McDermott.

Speaker 7 Am I overthinking?

Speaker 4 Hank, what do you think is too big of an age gap? Yeah.

Speaker 7 I think like 10, I think 10 years

Speaker 7 less than 10.

Speaker 4 Anything less than 10? Does it matter if it's like it would 22,

Speaker 4 24 to 32? Is that a bigger eight years than 30 to 38?

Speaker 7 No, definitely. I think anything within 10 years.

Speaker 1 Do you think that also the age gap doesn't matter as much if you guys root for the same football team?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean, listen, age truly is just a number as long as, you know, well, you can't say that.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I literally

Speaker 1 know that. You can't say that.

Speaker 4 You can't say that, Hank.

Speaker 4 You can't say that.

Speaker 1 You can clip that.

Speaker 5 10 years does matter sometimes.

Speaker 1 You didn't let me finish. You didn't let me finish.

Speaker 7 I literally said age is just a number as long as it's above 18. Like, that's what you guys cut me off.

Speaker 1 Hank's on his Wander Franco shit. Yeah.
You guys cut me off.

Speaker 1 I actually this is kind of like I feel like the older woman that was fucked up you said it you cut me off an older woman To younger guys like that

Speaker 1 That's so that's no big deal. Yeah, eight years

Speaker 1 eight years.

Speaker 7 That's the 9-11 thing is true. I remember I moved nine-year-old and 11-year-old dating No, nine.
When I'm I moved to Williamsburg into an apartment that had a overview of New York City.

Speaker 7 And my roommate was 40. I think I was 22.
22, and he was showing me the apartment. It was a random roommate, and the view was sick.
And I was like, I don't know why I said this.

Speaker 7 This makes me sound bad, but I don't know why. I still don't know why I said this because it was like a small talk.

Speaker 7 It was the first time I met this guy, and I was like, damn, like, it must have been crazy up here on 9-11, like, because you could see everything happening. And he goes, it was.

Speaker 1 I was like, holy fuck, dude, you're so old.

Speaker 7 Yeah. Because I was in third grade.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 that I can see that sending you in a spot. Yeah, but that's, you got to lean into it.
Like, there's going to be eight years is enough for different cultural things. I mean, you're eight years younger.

Speaker 1 You dropped Ed Ed and Eddie. Love Eddie.
No idea what that was when you said that.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you're really into 21 Savage. They did

Speaker 1 one, the Monsters Inc. one.
Jerry dropped that. And I was like, everyone was laughing, and I was just like, I don't know what they're talking about.
Yeah,

Speaker 4 eight years is big. I'd say that

Speaker 4 the eight-year age difference, like me and Big Cat are almost 39 and Hank is 30. That's a real, sometimes Hank is just so immature.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So immature. Also,

Speaker 1 his young body is supple.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he does have a good beard for 30.

Speaker 1 He's got that young bull energy that keeps us young.

Speaker 4 Also, he's 30 and he's strong, and he works in a job that's flexible, that allows him to travel a lot, which is a big bonus if you're looking at a 30-year-old and you're 38 or 39.

Speaker 1 PFT and I have had discussions where we're like, you know, we're getting up there. Hank's getting up there because you were our young guy for a while.
Do we need to go out and look for a young boy?

Speaker 1 And then we had to stop and be like, wait.

Speaker 4 What did we just say? We've talked about getting a young boy.

Speaker 1 A young boy. Yeah.
Yeah, we've talked about procuring a young boy.

Speaker 4 Doing some sort of talent search for a young boy.

Speaker 1 It's got to be the younger, the better. Yeah.

Speaker 1 2019. Young boy talent search would be such a fucking money.

Speaker 1 We might do that this summer.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And yeah, the logo will be just like a mustache and sunglasses. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Young boy talent search. Are you a young boy? Yeah.
We're looking for you.

Speaker 1 We want you. We want you as young as possible.

Speaker 4 Come meet with us. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We'll get it all on. Are you down for young boy talents? We could use a young boy.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I'm down for some youth.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, we're getting old.

Speaker 4 Max is into little boy.

Speaker 7 Yeah, like we, we, although it's like, you know, we watched, we watched Billy. We saw how that turned out.

Speaker 1 No, there's downsides to a young boy.

Speaker 1 It's like getting a puppy. The puppy's going to annoy you sometimes, but it still keeps you young.
True. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, what's crazy is Hank is about the same age that we were when we started the podcast. I pulled up a video of you the other day.

Speaker 7 We were talking about Big Cat. We We were talking about the horse jumping video

Speaker 7 and I pulled that up and you said you were 28 in it. Nat sent me for a spiral.

Speaker 1 Shit.

Speaker 7 And I was thinking about telling a story in my stand-up set from your 30th birthday, which when I said it out loud

Speaker 7 and I was like, fuck, that was his 30th birthday. I thought you were so old then.

Speaker 1 I know. That was a long time ago.

Speaker 4 You should tell that story, though.

Speaker 7 I'm going to. Damn.

Speaker 4 It's a good story.

Speaker 1 I don't even know the story.

Speaker 7 Tune into the stand-up up and find out. Do you know the story?

Speaker 1 I know the story.

Speaker 7 It's the first time I met.

Speaker 4 There's a good reason why maybe me or Big Cat would not remember the story.

Speaker 1 And why it's not going to happen to you. A lot of things going on.
And why it's haven't been told. Yeah.

Speaker 1 A lot of things going on that night.

Speaker 4 Some might say the reason why I work at this company to this day.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, now I'm remembering. Yeah, okay.
Yeah, tell the story. Fuck it.
I don't care. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, don't do it.

Speaker 1 Got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it.

Speaker 1 Bleep that. Don't keep it, but bleep it.
And then you'll hear the story. Yeah.
Okay, good show, boys. Numbers.
8. 40.
3.

Speaker 1 18. 20.
71.

Speaker 1 99, Pug.

Speaker 1 10. Pug, I got bad news for you.

Speaker 7 Shane's a young whipper snapper.

Speaker 1 My one pick tonight, Georgetown plus 7.5. It's ugly.
What did he say? Ugly.

Speaker 1 Ugly. Go Pirates.
They're so bad, but I looked at it and I was like, Seton Hall's won two big games. We'll find out.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 10! 10, Shane!

Speaker 1 Let's go, Shane! Welcome to the winner's circle. All right, Shane.
Shane, if you don't know Shane, Shane from the most famous A that's ever been drawn.

Speaker 1 Shane.

Speaker 1 Hello. Shane.

Speaker 1 Shane. Shane.
So Shane is a Chargers fan.

Speaker 5 He's also young.

Speaker 1 He's young. He's a young Supple Chargers fan.
Justin Herbert. Justin Herbert Herbert.
Number 10.

Speaker 1 Shane, yeah, is the famous graphic designer behind the greatest A that's ever been produced. I actually would like a one-of-one shirt that just said Shane with A

Speaker 1 for this moment. That'd be great.
That sounds good. Yeah, that'd be great.
So, Shane, anything else? Shane also is like... Shane has not tried a lot of things in life, and it's fun to watch him.

Speaker 1 Did you have Chinese food for the first time?

Speaker 7 He grew up without internet on a farm.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Like

Speaker 10 Chick-fil-A, Chipotle.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you didn't have Chipotle. I went to New York City.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Chipotle. I remember that first order.

Speaker 7 He never had milk. That wasn't...

Speaker 1 He like sucked from the cow. Yeah.
What?

Speaker 4 Is that true, Shane?

Speaker 4 Shane, how are you a Chargers fan?

Speaker 10 I just grew up in LT was just

Speaker 1 the best. The best.

Speaker 5 He didn't really have a lot of sports around him, so he kind of picked his teams.

Speaker 10 Yeah, the closest to me was like the Patriots, and I wasn't going to be a Patriots fan.

Speaker 10 No offense, Hank.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you, I mean, the Chargers is great. We need Chargers' representation.
Yeah, for sure. We might have to have you start.

Speaker 1 Shane also, like, he sits in here on Sunday nights, and when we bring up the Chargers, he just shakes his head the whole time.

Speaker 1 He's just like, this sucks.

Speaker 4 He's the Photoshop guy. Yeah.
He's responsible for every Photoshop.

Speaker 1 Congratulations, Shane. Especially the ones that make us look fat.
Shane works very hard.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, and we'll now, Shane, maybe we'll get some more Chargers thoughts from you going forward because people now are going to be like, wait, you've had a Chargers fan?

Speaker 1 So you can speak up for your people. Sounds good.
Yeah. Okay.
Good job, Shane. Hell yeah.

Speaker 4 Good job, Shane. Good job.
Proud of you, Shane.

Speaker 1 Proud of you. Proud of you, Shane.
All right. See everyone on Friday.
Love you guys.

Speaker 1 your love of dream, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming.

Speaker 1 Talking away,

Speaker 1 I don't know what I'm to say, I'm saying anyway.

Speaker 1 Today's ain't my day to find you, shine away.

Speaker 1 Oh, I was coming for your love of dream, dreaming, dreaming,

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Speaker 1 on

Speaker 1 me,

Speaker 1 take

Speaker 1 me on.

Speaker 1 I'll be gone

Speaker 1 and if I have to

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Speaker 1 me

Speaker 1 Take me up

Speaker 1 I'll be

Speaker 1 gone

Speaker 1 and if I have to

Speaker 1 I keep dancing on my own

Speaker 1 needless to say,

Speaker 1 I'm all set

Speaker 1 up.

Speaker 1 Look at learning to find his fate. Say after me.

Speaker 1 Life's no better to be safe than somebody to salvage and salvage and salvage.

Speaker 1 Life's no better to be safe than somebody to salvage and salvage and salvage and salvage and salvage

Speaker 1 and salvage and salvage.

Speaker 1 I'll be

Speaker 1 gone

Speaker 1 and let I want to

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Speaker 1 me up,

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Speaker 1 gone

Speaker 1 and let I want to