NFL Week 18, Playoffs Are Set, Fastest 2 Minutes, The Jaguars Collapse And The Bears Lose To The Packers Again

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Welcome to Part of My Take. Today is Monday, January 8th, week 18.
And let us be the last to thank you for turning in to another NFL season. We start in wet and soggy Baltimore where Freemason Rudolph played inspired ball on January 6th as the Ravens couldn't stop the Steelers.
Little Tay Johnson has confirmed he is not dead as he was a sucker for the deep ball scoring a big touchdown to put the Steelers up and Mike Tomlin's sanity sanity has lasted 17 years. Pittsburgh is back in the playoffs.
Here we go. Steelers, here we go.
Pittsburgh's going to the Super Bowl. Here we go.
Steelers 17, Ravens 10. Whoop, whoop.
Over to our first playoff game where I spent last night in the house of a team from Indiana. Running a couple hundred miles.
Nico Collins, Baton Rouge. Jonathan Taylor made used every club in his bag, but the Texans were extremely stroud and incredibly close to wrapping up an unlikely division title.
The game came down to the final play where Tyler Goodson did his impression of Tokatay the Orca

and lost all control of his flippers when Ursa's team was trying to air it out. The Texans 23, the Colts 19.
To Sunday where the Jacksonville Jaguars were fighting for their playoff lives and the dignity of certain short Italian football writers. Tractor Sito played his last game in game in Tannicito.
A mini truck like El Camino. Much to the chagrin of small Prisco Pito.
Tractor Cito. Clever Lawrence tried to get the last laugh, but his shoulder wasn't dislocated enough to get the two yards necessary for a late score.
And as we learn time and time again, God hates Jags. Titans 28, Jags 20.
Whoop, whoop. Over to Ohio, where AJ Soprano McCarron never had the makings of a varsity athlete, but he did get in garbage time in this one.
Cake Browning looked really good, and so did her husband, as big man on campus Jake Driskell looked like he was on the no-fly list with some of his passes. Andre Yostivas and Butthead showed the Brown his score holio.
Not once, but twice as he said, I need TD for my Bengals. On the way to a Bengals 31-14 win.
We head over to Foxborough where we have our reporter Henry Lockwood on the scene. Hank, in a fitting tribute to the weather, James Snow White rang the lighthouse bell today as the white powder came down in bunches throughout the day in Foxborough.
Matthew Kelly Slater and the Patriots couldn't even manage to hang 10 points on the feeble Jets as Trevor Sibian and the Jets rode Brees Arsenio Hall to the tune of 178 yards and a touchdown as the Jets were woof, woof, woof, woofing all the white powder falling from the sky to celebrate their first victory versus New England in their last 15 games. Jets, 17.
Patriots, 3. 15 games? Huh? Even 16.
Oh, that white powder sounds like they could have used Patrick Chung.. Huh? Huh? We now head to Philadelphia.
Actually, New York, where Max is there. Sad, sad, sad boy Max.
We head over to MetLife where it's officially time to kill the Philadelphia feebles. Soon-to-be unemployed-ass Nick Searing mommy may have to move into his parents' basement after this one.
Saquon Tony Starkly dominated the first half and told all of Philadelphia, everyone wants a happy ending, right? But it doesn't always roll that way. Nick Sorrow should be apologizing to all of Philadelphia for being the worst fucking player to ever play the game.
I hate the Eagles. The Eagles really suck.
Giants 27, Eagles 10. In the frozen tundra, some idiots called this Bears the Super Bowl, but Jordan Love has won as all the cult members up in Green Bay found their new mother god.
Dontavian make a wix. Wix for 15 more years of Packer domination, and his wix look like it's going to come true as the Bears make some podcasters very sad about their life asking

why they even care about this stupid sport to begin with and wouldn't it be better to be dead packers 17 bears 9 over to ryle john maryland it's the end of a rivera reach for common on the sidelines during the game coach ron said Podak Prescott has worked on his Cardi B and Cardio, throwing some WAP, white-ass passes, and putting it all on a CD. Lamb, that is.
The Cowboys look ready for the playoffs while people are still asking, are these motherfuckers even real? We may have to send reporter and world-renowned, not-educated person Hank Lockwood down there to investigate. The Cowboys 38, the Commanders 10.
Standing on the corner, Jameis Winston down in NOLA, such a fine sight to see. It's our guys, my lord, and he wants to score.
Handing off instead of taking a knee. Come on, Dennis.
Why'd you win this? Now the Saints will probably bring you back. Thought you were finished.
We nailed that one, Boom. Put some stank on it.
Saints go marching 48-17. And that was the fastest two minutes.
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Okay, week 18 in the books. And boys, we have our playoffs.
We have our playoffs. It is finally here.
So for context, we are taping the show. It's fourth quarter of Bills-Dolphins, but because the Bills are in the playoffs, it matters a little bit less.
Obviously, it still matters a lot for the two-seed, but we have our playoffs, and we have – should we go through the playoff schedule? We might as well, right? We can go in order right now. Let's just go through it.
And we'll just say for the Dolphins, we don't know if they're going to be playing in Miami next week or if they're going to be playing in Kansas City. Correct.
As Jeff Darlington pointed out, this is not necessarily a matchup of which team you would prefer to play. It's more a matchup of what kind of weather does Miami want to play in because it's going to be 70 degrees in Miami next weekend, and it's going to be like 15, 20 degrees in Kansas City.
It's going to be the candy-ass uniforms. Do the candy-ass uniforms – They don't travel.
Well, or are they going to lose horrifically? They don't travel. I can see the candy-ass uniforms winning a playoff game in Miami.
Yes. So, here's what we have, and then we will go back through all the games this weekend and tell you how we got here.
But we have on Saturday to kick off the wild card weekend, super wild card weekend, excuse me.

The Texans are back where they belong.

There's a whole generation of people that don't know that the Texans always play this Saturday.

And by whole generation, I mean like kids from the ages of like three to eight.

Yeah, it's been too long.

It was either the Texans spot or the Bengals. I feel like the Bengalsles play and then remember when they actually played each other yeah and that was great collision course but yeah it was the marvin lewis or houston texan spot yes so browns at texans to start saturday super wild card weekend now i should mention this is the classic texan spot this is not the classic texans because it's cj stroud because the the Texans spot historically was always like, which weird Texans quarterback are we going to get to watch play football in the playoffs? Yeah, is J.J.
Watt going to score enough touchdowns on defense for the Texans to win this wild card game? Right, but the Texans are playing the first game. Then we have on Saturday night the Peacock exclusive.
The Kansas City Chiefs will be hosting the Dolphins or the Steelers, correct? Yes. Jake, correct me if I'm wrong.
Or the Bills if this game is in a tie. Okay, if the game ends in a tie, which is tied right now.
Sunday, it's going to either be Buffalo at Miami or Pittsburgh at Buffalo. So that will be like whatever team ends up having to go to Kansas City.
The other team will have the home playoff game on Saturday to kick off Sunday. Then we have the Green Bay Packers at the Dallas Cowboys.
Dallas Cowboys win the NFC East, which we'll get to all of that. Sunday night, we have Matt Stafford returning to Detroit.
Jake has been creaming his Dockers all afternoon about it. The storyline.
Amazing storylines. This is the storyline game.
This game, it's going to be framed to be a revenge game for Jared Goff and a revenge game for Matt Stafford. It's not a revenge game for Matt Stafford.
This is the Jared Goff revenge game. Yes.
100%. Yes.
And there was a moment. Jake did all his predictions.
And I love Jake. This is what he lives for is scheduling.
and there was a moment Jake did all his predictions, and I love Jake. This is what he lives for is scheduling.
And there was a moment when we'll get to the Bears-Packers game where I was just sitting in kind of silence, just in real, real sad, feel bad for myself, like pissed off, just all the emotions. And Jake was like maybe three feet away from me just being like, the story are incredible and talking and like guessing the schedule.
And I had to recuse myself and go look in the mirror and be like, wow, how did I get here? As a guy that roots for storylines, though, you have to take your hat off to the script writers. They did a great job.
The script is perfect this year, as always. It would attribute to Golden Globe Sunday.
It was one of those moments where I had to take myself away because Jake was doing nothing wrong. It was my bitch-ass self just being sad at myself.
Well, you were just upset that one of the storylines was going to be Mike McCarthy against the Packers. Correct.
I also apologize for asking you the first drive of the game. Hey, Big Cat, do you think the Bears and Packers have ever played on CBS before? Yeah, that one killed me.
Yeah. Yeah, Jake was like, this is cool.
They're playing on CBS, and they were playing on CBS. I was like, I don't give a fuck i one thing i picked up on jake cares very deeply about initials yeah cbs fox snf i will i i think i just said said to jake i was like i don't give a fuck jake you did i was like i really the parents are driving speaking of the cock let's let's talk real quick about the uh the playoff game on peacock yes that.
I don't like that. We're going to have to get Jason Garrett in our eyeballs, and we have to pay for the privilege of having Jason Garrett show up.
What stinks is if you're watching it on a phone or on a tablet, it's very hard to flip back and forth. Or if you're streaming it from your phone to your TV, you can't check out during commercial breaks.
Counterpoint. We've all been trained by Amazon.
Yeah, but that sucks too. I don't like that.
No, I know. I know.
But I'm saying like this isn't people were freaking out about Peacock. Like we've been doing this now for two years with Amazon.
It sucked at the beginning of Amazon. Now I'm just used to it.
And I also, I'm someone, I think a lot of our listeners are probably in the same boat. I have fucking apps coming out of my eyeballs.
I have apps that I don't even know that I'm paying, I have Tubi, I have all these fucking apps, Fubu, Phoebe all these fucking apps, I sound like Bill Belichick right now, I pay double I pay for the apps, I pay for the cable I think that most of us listening to, most of the people listening to the show right now are in a similar boat where it's like yeah they already have Peacock because they had to watch Michigan State and and fucking northwestern play tonight oh i'm not i'm not saying that yeah i don't have peacock i have peacock i just hate no i agree i hate the experience of watching a game on an app as opposed to watching on tv agree you can easily and elegantly and seamlessly flip back and forth and show off your skills going back to the game right as it's about to snap again be like look how look how good my timing is. My point was more that the time to complain about having to watch football on apps was like two years ago when they first made us do it.
I'm going to use the time right now to complain about it because it's a playoff game and it stinks. It's over.
The Big Ten is now on Peacock all the time. The apps own us.
I have apps everywhere. You want an app? You can fucking come up to me.

I'll just pull.

If I pull out my keys, an app will fall out of my pocket. When we moved, I had to download probably 20 apps for different things.

Oh, yeah.

Everyone has an app.

You have to have an app to park.

You have to have an app for your car now.

Just too many apps in general.

Have you ever thought about-

I think it was just one app.

Right.

They should bundle them.

We just put them all together into an app. Have like Xfinity or comcast just sell them all super app um have you ever thought about like getting your apps on your phone like uh in order and stuff because i i think about it a lot i've never done that no i i i think about doing it a lot i have never done it as well i have blank spaces where blank spaces where there was an app that I had to delete for memory or whatever.
But someday I might do it. Well, what people do when they do that, they categorize them all into super apps.
Yeah. And then you have one app for home.
Right. One app for travel.
Right. One app for work.
And then you just make another app out of it. Yeah.
It's got six apps in it. Yeah.
All right. So, and then the finale of Super Wild Card Weekend is Monday Night Football.

Eagles at Bucks.

Max, I'm upset that it's Monday Night Football, but here's what I'm going to say to the listeners.

We have already talked about this.

We will be streaming all these playoff games.

The Monday Night Game, we will tape a time capsule so we get raw max right afterwards. i want to hear max we obviously don't have a show on tuesday max you can do your solo pod after that game no solo pod solo pod no solo i'll edit you're gonna thanks thanks hank you're gonna beat you're gonna beat the bucks yeah like it's a fucking playoffs max get up your favorites i was crazy and a lot of people are asking, is Hank going to go down to Dallas for his Cowboys game? I would personally want Hank to go down, but as I've looked it up, I can check again.
But on Expedia, there's no hotel rooms in Dallas. So if you want to go down there, you have to find a place to stay.
I don't know if there's any Airbnbs or maybe somebody down there that has an open bed. But I'm looking at it right now.
You can check. There's no empty hotel rooms at all.
I mean, I could probably find a place. Okay.
Okay. So you want to go? Yeah.
If you can find a place, you can go. All right.
You can go. Okay.
Great. Awesome.
You'll be back for Sunday night for the pod?

No.

Oh.

Well, you can go down there.

Maybe you can go down on Saturday just to see what the environment's like.

Yeah.

I could do that.

You know what you should do?

I would rather go to the game as a Cowboys fan.

I want to go and see the boys take down the Packers.

You should go and wait and be one of those Cowboys fans that runs in to stand at the front. And then leave.
And then leave right away. Yeah.
Just get your spot, take a picture, and then get back on a flight. What if we just record super late? How late? Like 3.
Well, you don't edit. 3 a.m.? Do you think? I mean, is the button going to get pressed? What if I edit it? Oh, okay.
Maybe we'll talk. We'll talk.
We'll talk offline. Maybe we could do a solo pod.
Or if there's somebody else that you know is a great big Cowboys fan, maybe you could do a segment with them and then upload it. Yeah, I could do that.
Yeah. By the way, the Bills did just take the lead.
This has been the most Buffalo Bills game. it's their entire season rolled into one single game where they're like the first half was the most frustrating half of football i've watched and it's like they just got all these yards no points i think they've left about 28 points on the board yeah looked dominant but don't have anything to show for it but now they're leading 21 14 thanks to uh punt return and then a touchdown drive by Josh Allen and the Bills.
So right now they're leading. Right now, if the season ended right this second, they would be the two seed hosting the Steelers on Sunday, the first game.
After all this. After all of this.
They would. And shout out to Adam Schefter, who completely cucked NBC.
They were supposed to do the schedule announcement at halftime of this Sunday night game. And Schefter, in the 30 minutes leading up to the game, just tweeted out the entire schedule.
Yeah, he did it. They've been working on it for this long.
He just tweeted it out. Jake, you ended up four for six? Yeah, four for six.
What went wrong? Let's talk about it real quick. What went wrong out there? I thought there was no chance they would make the Swifties pay for Peacock.
Well, that's the genius of it. That's the point of it.
Yeah. I thought they would give them Sunday Night Football.
No, no. This is how you get the Swifties on the cock.
You can't miss Mahomes. Mahomes really gets everything.
Yeah. Swifties are going to love that cock.
I think right now the Swifties might be hesitant to the cock because it's new. But once they get a taste of the cock, I think they're going to come back for more.
Actually, wait. So everything I said that I got chastised for three months ago, I was right.
We're going to get to see Taylor Swift on the cock. Yeah.
Oh, perfect. Taylor Swift will be on the cock, and I'm going to watch it.
If she goes to the game, I don't know, because Travis missed out on her big night tonight. That's cock on swift, and I'm going to get to see it.
You think that's swift on cock? Well, she'll be on the cock. Is that cock worthy? She'll ride onto the cock.
Okay. She'll hop on the cock real quick.
Right. You're playing with fire here.
No, we're not. I'm just talking about what the game is going to be.
Her face will be on the cock. Right.
Anyways, yeah. We're talking about a streaming series.
And let's be honest, if there's a weird, like, if they take her into a break and they're showing her, there could be cock on her face. Because you know how they do, like, the image, like, pops up? Right? I know what you're saying.
I know exactly what I'm saying. You think she likes to get streamed on? She probably gets, like, she likes streaming.
Oh, man. We're talking about NBC's app, guys.
Yeah, what the fuck are you guys thinking about? You think technology's funny? You guys are gross. Taylor Swift on the cock.
I flip-flopped the Saturday night and Sunday night games, four for six. That's on me.
And if the Dolphins don't come back here, I will be watching on my phone at a wedding Saturday night.

Oh.

If this podcast is canceled, I can go to the game Sunday.

Yes, you can.

All right.

Hank's going to cut up all this stuff out of order and be like,

get these guys on.

I'll tell you right now, if this podcast is canceled,

PFT and I will just do daily meetups where we'll have people just come

and listen to it.

We'll take it underground.

Maybe a nice beer hall.

We'll just start a new podcast, and it'll be on Andrew Tate's streaming service. But, yes, so Saturday night, that's where the mistake was made, that you never thought that you'd see Taylor Swift on a cock? I never thought the game that Taylor Swift is going to be at would be featured on the NBC Peacock application, which you can pay for for a subscription.

Here's the deal.

She put out a movie of her concert, right?

So people had to go pay to see her concert.

Then they paid money to see the movie that was her concert.

Then they had to pay more money to see the extra version of her movie,

of the concert.

I think they can afford to shell out $9.99 for one night of the cock.

I don't think Swifties care that much anymore either i think that's kind of worn off what like seeing taylor swift at the game no no it hasn't i've never seen her on the car not in a playoff atmosphere right this is a totally different situation cock moves at a different speed it really does i mean isn't it like it could buffer yeah it could at. At any point.
Yeah. We could have, you know, we'd have to reset.
Mm-hmm. Let's get her back.
I'm a Swifty, so if anyone who loves Taylor Swift is listening and wants to, like, cancel you guys, we still have representation. What the fuck? Oh, Jake's trying to take our spot for sure.
No, never. I'm just saying.
I actually, the funniest part about this whole. If we get canceled, we're getting canceled together.
Yeah, we all go down together. And you can come to Dallas with me.
If we get canceled, we're all doing the Ray Allen tweet together. I probably listen to more Taylor Swift than anyone in this room because my kids won't get in a car without listening to Taylor Swift.
I just do it nonstop. I listen to a lot of Taylor Swift.
Every day. I am a Swifty.
Every day. Yeah.
Every day? Every single day. I take my son to school every day.
I make sure to listen to the ones that aren't Taylor's version, though. Oh.
I'm trying to – Scooter Braun deserves – let's hear it out from both sides. The real genius in this operation.
All right. Let's get back to football.
Let's talk some football. Let's figure out how we got here to this wonderful Super Wild Card weekend schedule.
And we'll go. There's some games we're going to go very quickly through.
There's some games we can discuss a little bit longer. But let's start with Saturday.
We had the Steelers 17, Ravens 10. Mike Tomlin has done it again.
Mike Tomlin took a team that was 7-4, then lost to the Cardinals and Patriots at home and got absolutely smoked by the Colts and went to 7-7. And everyone wrote him off.
He wins out 10-7. He now is tied with Bill Cowher.
10 seasons of 10-plus wins, which is crazy. And the Steelers are in the playoffs.
And I have one question for you, PFT. Obviously, T.J.
Watt gets hurt. I don't know what his status is going to be.
Are the Steelers maybe dangerous? If T.J. Watt plays, yes.
And T.J. Watt tried to get back in the game with, I think it's a grade two sprain on his MCL.
So it's not an insignificant injury. Most people probably couldn't play on it.
T.J. Watt, though, he doesn't get injured, really.
He gets upset for having to lead the game. He gets angry.
And he's like, put whatever contraption or apparatus you have to affix to my body on, and then I'll just step onto the field, and then I'll go and get a sack. That's how he works.
And he played really well when he was in the game. He had, what, 19 sacks? The league, I think? He leads the league for the third time in his career.
That's the most anyone's ever done it. It's crazy.
We have to ask the question, too. Better football player, TJ or JJ? I think JJ has said that he concedes it to TJ now.
So does that mean that JJ is actually the better player because he was able to say, no, it's my brother? Right. Well, he's a better person.
That's why he's a better person. He's the better person.
TJ Watt, as far as we know, better football player than he is a human being. Correct.
Not the case with JJ. Correct.
We have not seen TJ Watt do Frank the Tank walking. We have not.
We have seen JJ. So, yeah, this might be Mike Tomlin's best coaching job ever.
And it's crazy. When they were 7-4, they were also like the most Mickey Mouse 7-4 of all time.
But that's because Mike Tomlin is a pretty damn good coach. So he was able to win all those games when they were getting and four.
They were also like the most Mickey mouse seven and four of all time, but that's because Mike Tomlin is a pretty damn good coach. And so he was able to win all those games when they were getting out gained back to back to back.
Yeah. I think this might be Mike's best job.
I actually think it might be his best job and his worst job. Okay.
Because why wasn't Mason Rudolph playing earlier? That good question. Do you think like Mike Tomlin actually did a terrible job and then Mike Tomlin is such a good coach he was able to save his terrible job and do a great job but do you think his great job was only so great because his terrible job was so terrible probably he said he put himself in such a hole that he could be like watch this only I was like basically he was Harry Houdini just jumping into a river all he's like watch this watch me just put us in such a bad hole Cardinals patriots colts now i'm gonna get out of this he was yeah he's playing the game on expert mode this yeah and the entire division finished over 500 that's the first time that's happened in a division since 1935 and uh the entire division finished over 500 and three out of four of the teams lost their day one starting quarterback pretty crazy nuts pretty Nuts.
Pretty crazy. That's how good this division was.
So I think we should ask the question, the curse of the terrible towel, did that have anything to do with it? Because since the Jaguars disrespected the towel, the Jaguars slid into oblivion. The Steelers end up taking the Jaguars' playoff spot on the last day of the season.
We need to ask, did the terrible towel incident have anything to do with that? I think absolutely. You can't argue otherwise.
I think the evidence is quite – what's Michael Scott? Strong to quite strong? No. I can't remember the line.
God damn it. It's late when he has to do the deposition.
I just know that somebody disrespected a towel, not to Sean Watson, but someone from Jacksonville disrespected a towel. And then about two months later, the towel had its vengeance.
Yes, I'd agree. Don't fuck with the towel.
Yes, I'd agree. Do not fuck with the towel.
You expect to get screwed by your company, but don't expect to get screwed by your girlfriend. No, I don't know.
That's a great one. That is a great one.
When he did the line and he was like, you said you had to go to the bathroom. That was to get out of this.
He's like, now I actually do have to go to the bathroom. Jadavion Clowney's sack dance for $750,000 was awesome.
It was so cool. They pretty much stopped the game.
I love the incentives at the end of the season. What? goes you said can i go to the bathroom no i really have to go i've been drinking lots of water you went five minutes ago that wasn't go to the bathroom that was to get out of the question yeah right right so but yeah jadavian clowny's uh sack dance was awesome 750 000 i was like we need to see more of that because we talk about the incentives all week 18 and all these guys trying to get like a catch or a touchdown.
They should stop the game for every time this happens to let these guys be like, it's very rare that you get to, it's basically watching who wants to be a millionaire. They're obviously already millionaires.
They're like deal or no deal. You just won $750,000.
How do you react? Jadavion Clowney stopping the game and doing like he stopped his dance. He's like, no, I got more in me.
I'm going to do some more. Yeah, and then the crowd caught on to it after a while.
They should make it like when Cal Ripken Jr. broke the streak.
Right. Let the guys take a lap.
Yeah. High five everybody in the front row.
Who wants to see a millionaire become more of a millionaire? Yeah. I do.
Bring a suitcase of cash out. Yeah, I like that idea.
Why not? Although it's very weird seeing Jadavion Clowney wearing number 24. Yeah.
That's just bizarre to me. That should not be allowed for a defensive end.
And Jadavian Clowney, by the way, I looked it up the other day, he has actually made way less money than I thought he would have made for his career. He keeps doing one-year deals.
Yes. I think he just likes to travel.
How much money do you think Jadavian Clowney's made in his career? He was the first overall pick. So I'm going to guess he's made about $56 million.
He's actually made more than that. So he's made 83, but he's been in the NFL for 10 years.
First overall pick, you'd think. That's a lot of money.
I know it is, but I'm saying like for the player he's been, he has been doing these one-year deals. It feels like he never got that like huge, huge.
Because he went from the Texans. He was on the Texans for the five years, and then he just started jumping around.
It is kind of cool, though. He's doing the NFL way different than anybody else except for Josh Johnson, which is just go see the world.
Right. Go travel.
See the United States. Robert Woods.
Yeah. Brandon Cooks, not by choice.
Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. Also, Tyler Huntley.
Shout out to Tyler Huntley, he tried really hard to cover the spread. Yeah.

That was a wet, sloppy game.

I don't know how we don't have camera technology to deal with rain because there was half of this game we just weren't watching.

Yeah, if it was playing Pittsburgh,

they'd have something to wipe off the lens with.

That's true.

But no, you can't disrespect the terrible crowd.

You can't do it, yeah.

You can't do that.

But yeah, so the Ravens, one seed, Steelers in.

Can't believe Mike Talman, like, I get it because Pittsburgh, they judge everything on Super Bowls. They have a history.
It's a different organization than probably 27 of the other organizations in the NFL. There's some organizations that are like, we care about Super Bowls and nothing else.
I would kill for Mike Tomlin. 17 years, never under 500, 10 10-plus win seasons, and Pittsburgh fans just complain about him nonstop.
Well, because to me what that would mean would be getting like 10 weekends a year where you feel superior to everybody else on earth. And all these extra games, you're making the playoffs every year.
You get a week of anticipation for the playoffs, usually two weeks, sometimes three weeks. That that would be so much fun but then you become like a victim of your own success and now all of a sudden it's not good enough anymore yeah you need to win the super bowl uh okay next game i have a question for you yeah mason rudolph is he gonna be the quarterback in pittsburgh next year he might be he might be he's playing well big face and all yeah good story yeah we've always rooted for mason rudolph we've always We've always been Mason Rudolph, guys.
We've never said anything bad about him. Nope.
He's wearing a nice, like, smoker's jacket walking into the stadium. TJ Watt was wearing the Bully Hours Jersey Jerry sweatshirt, which fits.
Then he got hurt. Then he got hurt.
Some are saying. Although, Jerry, God bless his soul, and I actually believe him.
He said that if TJ Watt had torn his ACL, he would have done a stream just trying to tear his ACL, and he would have done it. Yeah.
And it would have been great. It would have been great theater.
Okay, next game. Texans, Colts, Josh Allen is – Oh, my God.
Josh Allen just got a huge – but there's a flag on the field. Third and 13 run by Josh Allen.
This is an epic meltdown by the Dolphins. I don't know.
They're only up 14. No, just the season.
Oh, yes. The division.
Losing the division. That's insane.
Yeah, no, it's crazy to think that there was a moment where the Bills were 6-6 and the Dolphins were what? Defensive holding. Dolphins were like 9-3.
Yeah. This is really bad.
We thought they broke football. It was that Titans loss.
They scored 70 points against the Broncos where it's like these guys have figured out how to play football on a level nobody's even thought of yet. Yeah.
That's a good reminder, Jake. Keep that as a reminder.
Anytime someone breaks football, it's Chip Kelly. Remember? Yeah.
Kelly broke football. It's never real.
You're like, Mike McDaniel got so high that he figured out how to do offense in a way that the human mind has never comprehended. Or he just had really fast guys.
And when one of the fast guys isn't playing, they don't look as fast. Yeah, maybe that.
They have a lot of injuries. Dolphins have had a shitload of injuries.
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Okay, Texans 23, Colts 19. The Houston Texans are your AFC South winners, champions, incredible turnaround, new coach, new quarterback going from the second worst team in the league last year to winning the AFC South.
It's insane. And CJ Stroud, he is so, so, so much fun to watch.
He was throwing bullets on Saturday night. That drive, he had to drive.
It to drive it was 17 17 you know season on the line they have to win to get in if they don't win they they're out of the playoffs and he went seven for seven he took them 73 yards in seven minutes uh 12 plays for a touchdown turned out to be the winning drive he's just so goddamn good right off the bat that deep bomb to nico oh yeah the first thing i thought of when they did that i was like this is the monday night football game with mike vick against the redskins all over again and then i found out later they got the inspiration to run that play from that monday night football game yeah where it's like let's what why are we gonna wait to step on the throat let's just step on the throat with the first pass and and it was it was it seemed like he could do no wrong after that even even though the Texas defense had a very, very hard time with Jonathan Taylor. Jonathan Taylor was incredible.
But C.J. Stroud, one last thing I want to say about C.J.
Stroud. C.J.
Stroud, if you had someone watch their first game of football and they watched C.J. Stroud, they would immediately be like, that quarterback is elite.
Because the calm and poise he has in the pocket in the throws he was making like no leverage back back foot just darts right down the middle in the middle of the field like like crazy throws and he's just awesome to watch I don't I was thinking about it how many teams would say no if they asked if you if you called him up and was like C. stroud for your quarterback uh the bills the chiefs i think it's four i think it's the bangles and the ravens ravens i think that's it i think every other team would probably say yes yeah especially given his contract because he's you know first year what about the eagles they they were in the super bowl last year the eagles would 100 take cj stroud i don't know what other team think so what other team would say no to CJ Stroud I think the Eagles might say no to him like is there any other team that would say no to CJ Stroud if the if if the GM called him there would be no reason for the GM to do this but like they're like CJ Stroud straight up for your quarterback I think there's four guys maybe the maybe the Cowboys because I could see Jerry Jones being like I found that guy and he would I took a flyer on him he's my guy.
And he would be an idiot. Yeah.
Well, he might be an idiot. I mean, CJ Stroud is like in one year has gotten into this territory where it's like this is a guy that is just, he is that dude and he is just like a surefire slam dunk guy.
I actually think that if you made somebody watch their first game of football and it was CJ Stroud playing, they'd be like, football is really easy. Yeah.
Playing quarterback is simple. Yeah, you just stand in there and right when the big, strong, fat guys are about to jump on you, you just throw it a million miles an hour right to your receiver's hands.
Pretty easy. And there was a great post-game interview that SVP did with him where he was trying so hard to get CJ Stroud to open up about something, get fiery.
He's very, very guarded and cautious with the media. Yeah.
And then SVP just started to talk about Ohio State, Michigan, and C.J. tried to keep him at bay.
And he was like, no, what about your teammate, though? He's a Michigan guy. You're an Ohio State guy.
What do you say to him? And he was like, yeah, it sucks that he went there. He finally broke down and showed he seems like a cool guy, but have to get past a couple layers of him being like he still wants to be like the mr all-american to everybody right which is not a fault against him it's like this you get thrust into a starting quarterback job in the nfl you're the face of a franchise you want to say and do all the right things but when he like broke down a little bit it's like i think i would like hanging out with that guy yeah and i'm i'm by the way i'm happy for texans fans because they obviously we were alluding to earlier like they went through many many years where they just it was a carousel of guys and then they got a surefire no doubter into sean watson and then a lot of shit happened yeah yada yada yada yada a lot of shit happened and it's like how can you have a guy that is that good and now he's not on your team anymore he because remember before the deshaun watson stories came out he wanted to get traded yeah like so that like that timeline gets a little confused so to have that like taken away from you where you thought you had a franchise quarterback for the next 15 years and then be able to get cj shroud it's almost like a make it's like a ball don't lie it's a ball don't lie the texans like that's good because you you were staring if you're a texans fan especially with how last year went and you were just going through coaches and now you have this guy that you're like i have i have someone i can root for for the next 15 years yeah and uh shout out to the texans and lovey smith yeah and that in that one play that we all thought was you know consequential for different reasons actually ended up helping out the Texans a lot.
Also, I completely memory-holed the coach that was there before Lovie Smith. Do you remember his name? Yeah, fuck.
He was there for one year, right? I had to look up his name earlier today, yeah. He's an old guy.
Old guy, big collars on his shirt. Give me the first letter of his name.
D. Dave? Yeah.
I don't remember. i got it what is it cully david cully yeah you remember david cully yeah and everyone's like he got a raw deal you got a raw deal yeah and so did lovey yeah but they domico ryan's is awesome texas are awesome as for the colts so jonathan taylor was incredible nothing to hang their head about jonathan taylor well a little to hang their head about because Jonathan Taylor was incredible nothing to hang their head about Jonathan Taylor well a

little to hang their head about because Jonathan Taylor was unstoppable it was kind of like a perfect uh cap to the season like oh yeah good thing we did pay that guy because he's really really good couldn't be stopped 168 yards and then you had the Shane Steichen timeout into a fourth and one where they didn't have Jonathan Taylor on the field.

And this is going to be a shot. And then you had the Shane Steichen timeout into a fourth and one where they didn't have Jonathan Taylor on the field.

And there's going to be a shot.

They decided to throw the ball to an Iowa Hawkeye.

Yep.

And he didn't catch it.

So it was a good play call.

It was a great play call.

The play call worked.

The timeout before the play call was bad.

Was stupid.

And not enough people are talking about that.

That was one of the dumbest timeouts.

It should have worked, though.

And there were people who were defending the timeout

and being like, well, you're going down with the ship right then.

I don't care that you know you need that play.

You have to give yourself as many opportunities to still win the game.

And if they had kept that timeout,

they would have probably gotten the ball back with about 45 seconds. And you obviously would have taken a miracle, but at least you give yourself that avenue.
Instead, they take the timeout, call up that play. Gardner-Mintry's pass wasn't great.
Tyler Goodson also probably could have caught it. But that sucked because Shane Steichen had an incredibly first year, and it all fell flat there.
So when they say that's do-or-die time, you want be in do or die mode no not at that point you don't you want your guys to be in do or do or die mode yeah so like you you lost out on another opportunity to do yeah by taking that time out you made it do or die yeah you made it do or die yeah and then we got the fun safety at the end which i always love that was yeah although the punter kind of fucked up He should have. There was one second left.
He could have just thrown the ball or kicked it out of bounds and waited until it hit the ground. I just love a punter just running for their life because it's just – that's another one if you had someone watch their first game of football.
They'd be like, what's going on here? Yeah. A guy just running backwards for his life.
You remember when Harbaugh did that a couple years ago where he had everybody hold on the last play and then just hope that their punter didn't get their ass kicked?

Yeah.

That was awesome.

Yeah.

I just love a random safety at the end because you can always just be like,

that was a smart move.

Yep.

That was the correct move.

All right, we got a big fourth down, a measurement.

The Dolphins get the ball back.

Wow.

With a minute 53 left.

This could be the ultimate melt up.

Melt up.

Yeah.

Do they go for two if they get a touchdown?

For the division?

I would say probably, correct?

Yeah.

Probably.

Trust your offense.

Stephon Diggs is not happy.

The tush push did not work.

Although he kind of did a jump, though.

He did kind of also.

He put his arms out.

He also kind of got it.

I don't know if they're happy to overturn, though.

The ball right there is past the first down line. Yeah, but they stop it so early with quarterbacks.
Yeah. Okay, we'll update when we see the Dolphins final drive.
Titans 28, Jaguars 20. What? What? Titans 20.
What? 28. Titans 28.
No, I said Titans 28, Jaguars 20. Max, come get your boy.

Cell phone, cell phone.

The Jacksonville Jaguars are out of the playoffs.

An all-time, all-time meltdown.

They were sitting in week 13 at 8-3,

going up against Jake Browning in a Bengals season that felt like they were just going to play out the string and not try. And then they went and they lost five games out of their last six, and their only win from the 8-3 was against the Panthers.
Yeah, they lost to Jake Browning, lost to Flacco, Lamar, Baker, and then Tannehill to end out the season. They were the one seed at one point, and Jags fans were feeling pretty happy.
Pete Prisco was dancing, his head was spinning, and then the schedule reared its ugly head. This is not the schedule that Prisco had envisioned when he drew them up as Super Bowl contenders at the start of the season.
Yeah, 8-3 and then went 1-5 to close out the season.

I do feel bad for Jags fans. I do.

It was a pretty – because we even said on Friday,

we think the Titans are going to win this game because it was Vrabel

and it was Derrick Henry's last game, and it's just so perfectly the Jags

to have this type of game where even how it ended with Trevor Lawrence not lawrence not being able to get that remember that play he did against the chargers was against the chargers where he did the superman lunge yeah his last year in the playoffs his arm was about two yards short i hit the the play call was like trevor just stick your arm out and then hope that it grows about six feet in the air yeah like michael jordan in space jam and it uh it did not work out for him. It was a sad ending.
If you're a Jaguars fan, I don't think that you put the blame on this meltdown on Doug Peterson entirely. I think you say Trevor needs to be better, and Trevor was probably hurt.
And also less injured. Yeah, and was probably hurt.
And then I think you also have to take a look at your OC. Yeah.
I think they're going to bring Doug back. Doug's not going to get fired for this meltdown.
Their whole offense was just clunky. Their defense failed them.
It was a meltdown of a season, and it was a step back because that team last year was like, remember, I think they lost to the Chiefs maybe by 10. They're like, oh, man, they won a playoff game.
They went to Kansas City. They held their own.
The sky's the limit for the Jags. They're going to be on the up and up and trevor lawrence took a big step back and the jaguars took a big step back and losing this game it it would be more shocking if it wasn't just so jaguars i do have a prediction though that we're going to get the post-mortem on the jaguar season and it's going to be trevor lawrence was actually super super injured and that is the afc's title The Bills have picked off Tua, and the Bills – oh, no, did he get hurt?

Did Poy he get hurt did poyer also tyreek was he got hurt tyreek's always hurt a little bit yeah and the buffalo bills are your afc east champions holy shit all right let's finish well i i there's there's nothing really i know but you needed this one what about me jake you have a future too congrats pft yeah well there's nothing really to congrats. Yeah, I know, but you needed this one.
What about me, Jake? You have a two? You've got the future, too. Congrats, PFT.
Yeah, well, mine's only 20-1 because I had it at the start of the year. But all right, well, let's talk about this game after we finish the Jags real quick.
So the Jags join – it was the 2021 Ravens, which I think Lamar got hurt, right? Yeah, he got hurt. So they started 8-3.
The Eagles did it in 2014, but that was also before there were seven playoff teams, which is also crazy to be 8-3 and not make the playoffs. Yeah.
Bears did do it in 2012. That was the year that Lovey got fired.
They finished 10-6. Going 8-3 and missing the playoffs is crazy in a seven-team playoff.
It's really tough. It's really, really hard to do.
Hard to do. I feel bad.
I actually doubt that Jags fans are listening to this podcast. If you're a Jaguars fan that bears the courage to tune into part of my take on a Monday after the Jaguars finish up their collapse, you were a brave human being.
I know. Thank you.
And I feel really bad, too, because the Jaguars, there some like I was saying that you know we were talking about which teams we wouldn't want to see in the playoffs and I said I don't really want to see this version of the Jaguars because they're just injured and hurt and everything and I realized as I was making that argument I was essentially making the Florida State argument and there are Jaguars Florida State fans that have just gone through hell like if you talk to a Jaguars Florida State fan and you could be like, hey, remember early November? Like that was awesome. You had the world in front of you.
And now you just like everything that could have gone wrong went wrong. And I do feel bad for Jags fans.
As for the Titans, Derrick Henry, maybe last game in Titans uniform. It looked like he took the mic after the game and said, thanks to all the kids out there that looked up to me so yeah when you drop a thanks youngsters I feel like that's probably good indication that you played your last game there and he went out in a hell of a way yeah 158 yards uh 153 yards touchdown ran all over him you could tell he was like he had that that extra bounce that Derrick Henry bounce um and the Titans they got a lot of questions going into the offseason.
But if you're a Titans fan, you have Mike Vrabel. You have to feel good about that.
Yeah, and I've heard some stuff about the Titans maybe not bringing him back next year. It would be crazy.
Sign up. Every team would want him.
Yeah, and every team in the AFC South should hope that Vrabel does not get brought back next year. Yes.
He's a very good coach. I'd be lucky to have him as a head coach.
I think anybody in this room, right, we'd all take him? Yeah. Yeah.
Second. Yeah.
Max would take him? Second. In a second.
Fuck yeah, I'd take him. He's a fucking awesome coach.
So yeah, Jags done, and that was what made the Steelers into the playoffs. So the Jags needed, and also ensured the Bills, whether win or lose, were going to get into the playoffs.
So Bills 21, Dolphins 14. We could do this right now.
It is crazy that the Buffalo Bills have won the AFC East after all of this. They have maybe had the craziest, weirdest season in terms of they've looked like absolute dog shit.
They've looked awesome. This game was a perfect microcosm for the entire Bills season.
And now the two seed, where they're packed to the AFC championship game, they have, what, the Steelers at home? And then they're going to get maybe the Chiefs. It depends if there's reseeding or not, but yeah.
But two home games for where the Bills were when they were 6-6. Now they avoid the Ravens until the championship game.
6-6 going against the Chiefs? It is crazy to think, and this is a perfect microcosm, you're right, down to the fact that they won this game at the end. It's crazy.
The Bills' season has been nuts. They've been dead.
I feel like we've buried the Bills like three times on this show. Yeah.
We even slightly buried them after week one. But we've also revived them because we did give the whole speech before the Chiefs game.
Like if you think the Bills win that Chiefs game, bet them to win the Super Bowl at 35-1 because the AFC is so wide open and the Bills best is just as good as anyone else. The Bills worst is really, really bad.
What's crazy is we got Josh Allen's worst in this game. Yeah.
Like this was bad Josh. They beat the Miami Dolphins with bad Josh Allen tonight.

I think Razul Douglas might be hurt

which that's a big loss for them.

Gabe Davis got banged up.

Dolphins also

I know it's a meltdown for the Dolphins.

They did have some significant

injuries.

Their offensive line got banged up a lot.

Jalen Phillips, Bradley Chubb uh xavier and howard mostert waddle like these are the these are all pro bowl guys that are like they have a top end talent type of team so when you lose that top end talent like they look very different yeah to look very confused and hurt tonight that was sad to see sad to her And now they have to go to Kansas City. Tyreek's return, Saturday Night Peacock.
What a storyline. Wow, what a storyline.
Tyreek going back. But he already played against the Chiefs.
In Germany. In Germany.
This is the true return. And the Bills are the AFC's champions.
They're going to be double-digit favorites at home, right?

Oh, definitely.

I think they'll probably be 10.

If TJ Watts not playing, they'll be 10-point favorites.

Yeah, how many points do you think TJ's worth?

Probably a field goal, right?

Nah, maybe not a field goal.

Maybe like one and a half, two.

Let's see if the spread's up yet.

Guess the spread.

I'm going to say nine and a half.

Yeah.

I think nine and a half is good.

Yeah, I think it might go.

I'll say, I'll guess nine. I'll go with you.
Nine nine and a half and i think it will end up being 10 maybe 10 and a half people are definitely gonna bet on the bills yeah yeah and uh lyndon fernette is 28 years old yeah playoff lenny this this kind of sucks for the steelers because i do think that the steelers had a chance of maybe beating the chiefs because the chiefs like the the chiefs match the Steelers matched up well with the Chiefs and the fact that the Chiefs' offense is so broken that they're not going to blow anyone out, and you could play like a low-scoring, grinded-out game and maybe beat the Chiefs. Bills have an offense that could blow someone out.
If T.J. Watt plays, though, I could see a world where the linebackers and the defensive ends on the Steelers just make Joshosh's life hell true and force them into some weird plays true or just like standard josh allen weird plays yeah yeah but uh what about the dolphins chiefs line oh oh good question i'm gonna say that's me like chief six i have them both here and they're actually both surprising i'm gonna say chiefs i thought i thought 10 was too much i think it's I think it think it's 6.5, 4.5.
I think it's Chiefs. What is it, Chiefs? Chiefs, 3.
We're way off? Chiefs, 1.5. What? To open.
Oh, I would hammer the Chiefs. And Bills, 7.5.
Our lines are bad. We're bad.
We're bad. Oh, no.
It's already changing. It's changing live right now.
Yeah, because it just dropped. Chiefs, 3.
Yeah. Bill's still seven and a half.
Okay. So I was right about the Chiefs.
So that changed quickly. I think Chiefs are going to get bet a lot.
That changed quickly. The Dolphins are just – I guess it depends on if Mostert and Waddle play.
Like, if Mostert and Waddle play, then I would see it being like, yeah, three or four. If they don't play, the Dolphins' offense is just not as scary as it was.
Also, the temperature. If the temperature dips lower.
Temperature matters a lot. This happens every time with the Dolphins in the playoffs.
They had Skylar Thompson last year. A few years ago they played at Pittsburgh and Matt Moore had to start.
It's just crazy. Wait, so I'm looking at the weather right now.
Kansas City, Missouri. Saturday, high of 14.
Low of 4. I imagine it's probably going to be 9 degrees.
We're about to have a cold snap boys i'm thinking i'm gonna hammer the chiefs the chiefs might again we go back to what we said like a week ago the chiefs might actually be very dangerous this playoffs i think the steelers can keep it close because people are actually disrespecting the chiefs and being like they can't do anything and it's patrick homes it's patrick homes so that really that that's that's all you got to say it's patrick homes in the playoffs you don't want to bet against that guy uh okay let's keep going uh we can whip through some of these lions 30 vikings 20 the big news is sam laporta got hurt yeah which sucks week 18 injuries are the worst so so dan campbell said that it was not as bad as it looked, but it's still not good. So I think that probably means like a two, three-week injury.
So probably not going to help. Really, really bad for their offense.
The Lions were – I don't know. Would you say like – I know that they were still alive for the two seed, and I think it's kind of playing like hindsight's 20-20.
I have no problem with Dan Campbell trying to win that game, especially because the Cowboys and the Eagles don't play until later. You have to get your team back into winning mode.
Right. You have to get bad taste.
Remember we said bad taste? Yeah, bad taste. And Dan Campbell, I think he's the king of bad taste.
I don't think that the Lions have lost back-to-back games. Yeah.
So they're consistent. Yeah, and the Lions also just won their 12th game.
Last time they won 12 games, good for the Lions, is 1991. Also, last time they won a playoff game.
That's very good. So there you go.
It's also the first time ever that the Browns, Lions, and Texans have all made the playoffs. Wow.
In NFL history. That makes sense.
The Texans started in what, like 2001? That makes perfect sense. I also am very happy for Lions fans because as the day was playing out and it was clear the Packers were going to be in the playoffs and the Rams were down in the fourth quarter of the 49ers, it dawned on me that the Packers going to Detroit and beating the Lions is actually so, so, so much worse than if Stafford goes to Detroit and beats the Lions because the Lions finally win the NFC North, first time in franchise history.
The Packers are in a rebuilding year. If the Packers went and beat the Lions in the playoffs in Detroit, it would basically wipe out the whole season.
The Packers are still the Kings of the North. So even though there's the weird feeling of having Stafford come back, I think this is a far better situation than having the Packers potentially beat the Lions.
I hope they win whether they were playing the Packers or the Rams, but this I think is better for Lions fans. I think most Lions fans would agree.
Also, the Packers went there on Thanksgiving and beat the shit out of them. Right.
So that would be bad news. And it would just feel like we made all this progress and we're just right back here.
I still would feel very, very bad for Lions fans if Matt Stafford comes and wins that game that would be tough neither one would be great it wouldn't win the game yeah in the game this is actually spin zone it's just a great week in general to be in michigan you have the potential to win a national championship yep tonight monday night and then stay drunk until the detroit lions get a home playoff game yeah that's a great week that. That's a great week.
It's a great week. Beer season, baby.
As for the Vikings, they've got a lot of questions coming up, but I was looking at it. The Vikings are the 11th pick.
They could bring back Kirk Cousins and draft a quarterback. I don't know where Michael Penix and Jaden Daniels are going to go, but those are two pretty good options.
They'd probably be right around that spot, yeah. Right.

And the Vikings end up losing four games in a row to finish the season.

I do feel bad.

The Vikings were a lot better than last year, a lot more complete team,

and Kirk Cousins got hurt.

That was the theme of this season for a lot of teams.

And then Jaron Hall for reasons.

Jaron Hall happened.

Something with him trying to find the hot hand. Although Nick Mullins, I think that game did pretty much end on almost an identical duck.
Yeah, well Nick Mullins is going to give you one or two of those, but this also puts Dan Campbell 6-0 against the spread against the Vikings. So Jake, just remember we're going to auto-bet Dan Campbell against the Vikings next year.
Both times or just the first time? Both times. I'm going to say right now both times.
It's an auto bet. Auto bet.
Okay. So, and the Lions defense is getting healthy.
So they had Aleem McNeil back, who is one of their most important players, defensive lineman, and C.J. Gardner Johnson, I think, is back too.
Yeah, he played today. But Branch got hurt.
I don't know if he's going to. That's bad.
Can we see how badly he got hurt that sucks so bad that sam laporter got hurt i know like week 18 injuries turn injuries off you know what they should do they just turn injuries off he had a he had a wrist injury brian branch branch has a wrist injury my guess is he probably just played with that you can play with that dan campbell would look at that be like i'll cut it off yeah i will Yeah. I'll cut that.
I'll bite that wrist off. Yeah.

What was the stat that was just sent on our text messages?

It's not.

It's not.

Well, technically it's true, but the 49ers wouldn't have sat all their starters.

But the Lions finished 12-5, tied with the 49ers and Cowboys.

If they hadn't blown that call against the Cowboys,

they would have been the one seed.

But if they hadn't blown the call, the 49ers would have played to win. Yes, correct.
But they still would have been ahead of the Cowboys if they hadn't blown that call against the Cowboys they would have been the one seed but yeah they hadn't blown the call the 49ers would have played to the yes yes correct but they still would have been ahead of the Cowboys correct they would have had the two seed yeah you should feel bad yes yes um okay next up Saints 48 Falcon 17 this game ended up not mattering whatsoever uh for a moment in time the Saints had a path uh the Bears were not able to beat Packers, as we'll get to. And the Seahawks did end up winning as well.
So there was a moment, though, where the Saints almost were like, oh, we could maybe get in if both these teams lose. But the big story here is Jameis Winston being the greatest teammate of all time.
This was Jameis week. Yeah, so it wasn't just Jameis, though.
It was the whole team. So what happened was at the end of the game, the Saints got the ball on the one-yard line.
They got a pick. They got a pick.
The ball was at the one-yard line going in, and they lined up in victory formation. And then Jameis handed it off to Jamal Williams.
And Jamal Williams, you might remember, last year he scored 17 touchdowns. Led the league.
Led the league. Had no touchdowns this year because they basically asked him to be a fullback right after they had some injuries so um everybody in the huddle according

to jamis and also according to their team captain eric mccoy they said that it's a team decision

to get a guy that got moved to fullback and that his buses asked get him in the end zone

so out of victory formation jamis hands the ball off to him gets a touchdown then after the game

we have arthur smith yelling at dennis allen at midfield, and then Dennis Allen basically being like, yeah, I know, I agree with you. I'm sorry.
It was classless. I didn't tell my guys to do that.
Right. So what we have here is Dennis Allen losing the locker room.
The whole team went rogue. It was a mutiny.
The whole team was like in Rudy when they put their jerseys on the table and they said we want this guy coach that's what they did for jamal williams so then dennis allen had to apologize after the game said it's unacceptable that's not who we are not what we're about that's bullshit that you your team did the right thing well so i actually don't think arthur smith was up was wrong in in being upset because of the victory formation that was the weird part Like he was mad that they were lined up in the victory formation and then handed the ball off. But Jameis, it turns out, like he was asked about it afterwards, and he's like, yeah, we as a team decided we wanted to get Jamal Williams a touchdown, and there was a reporter who was really sassy with Jameis.
He was like, do you feel good about that? And Jameis was like, yeah, we as a team decided to do this. And Jameis was like, do you feel good about it? And the reporter was like, no, I don't feel good about it.
You have to play them two times a year. And it's like, okay.
And Jameis was actually handling it very well. He was just like, I'm just trying to be respectful and like, thank you for your input.
But this is a team, like the guys in the locker, in the huddle wanted to do this, and we did it for Jamal Williams. And Jameis just proves yet again that he's the best teammate ever.
What's this guy upset about? Like, oh, maybe the next time the Saints and the Falcons play each other, they're not going to like each other? That's essentially what he was saying. I think that's probably baked in.
Yeah. Like, it's the Saints and the Falcons playing each other.
They already hate each other. You can't hate a guy more.
Yeah. Yeah, he was like, Jameis was like, do you do you disagree or the guy said i disagree with your decision and he's like you mean our decision because james is like it was a team decision so you disagree with the whole team yeah and the guy had nothing he was just being a salty little bitch yeah and also james had been brought in numerous times this year just to take knees right at the end of the game so if people were mad i guess the team our saints insider ben mince uh said people were mad yeah because they thought that it was uh beneath jamis winston uh to come in and just take knees i agree with that yeah i agree so i don't have a problem with what jamis did i don't have a problem with what the saints did also i agree with arthur smith that he's pissed off yeah yes arthur smith you are pissed right and i probably have the right to be pissed off because it's the victory formation it's a victory for and also you're getting blown out your job is kind of on the line right and then to have that happen at the end feels like it's kind of twisting the knife i honestly think that if they had lined up in a regular formation and scored a touchdown i honestly don't think arthur smith would have a problem.
I think it was the victory formation part that was weird, and he watched it and was like, what the fuck is going on here? I also think that – Because in the moment, you don't know that Jameis and the huddle, they all decide to do that. In the moment, it looks like they're just – they're basically doing a victory formation to okie-dokie and then score a touchdown on your face, which is bullshit, given just that.
What happens next time is they get out in victory formation and then you have your defensive line just crush them. Yeah.
And then that opens up a whole new can of worms where there'll be another fight. I agree.
The victory formation, probably not the best idea. But I don't have a problem with them scoring a touchdown.
And I think the Saints probably had to do that because if they had lined up in a regular offense dennis allen probably would have taken a timeout maybe yeah and been like what the fuck are you guys doing it just seems to me like they don't they don't respect in a sound one of us yeah also happy for jamal williams that was cool like your whole team to ride for you like that is very cool and so now the falcons have i think they've got the eights the eight pick wrapped up they're picking eighth in draft. That just means they're going to get another awesome receiver.

Or a running back.

Or a running back.

Yeah, but probably Odunze.

Yeah.

They're probably going to get Odunze.

I have a take.

They're going to have the best collection of skill players.

Well, my take is that if Taylor Heineke started the entire season,

the Falcons are in the playoffs.

Yeah.

I was going to say, and we'll get to this when we get to the draft,

because the draft does run through us. We're one, two, and 3.
I would maybe take a Dune Zio for Marvin Harrison Jr. Oh, I think Tom Franelli said that too.
Okay, so Tom and I are lockstep in this. Yeah.
Yeah. I don't think it will happen.
Right. I think I'd do it.
It does feel good having the top three picks. What are you going to do? We'll get to it.
All right, Jets Patriots. Memes, congratulations.
Big win for memes. 15 in a row, snapped.
Now you start a streak. Hoo-ah.
Whoa, what was that? Are you in the Marine? No, not stolen valor. No, no, no, no.
Just hoo-ah. Hoo-ah.
Nope. Hoo-ah.
So you killed Belichick today. Yeah, that was fun.
I hope he's gone because that would be his final game as a Patriot would be a loss to the New York Jets. My enduring memory of Bill Belichick as a Patriot is going to be him wrapped up like sub-zero in the snow or like a six-year-old going to preschool or whatever grade you're in when you're in sixth grade, kindergarten, and just getting bullied.
What? What? What? whatever grade you're in when you're in sixth grade kindergarten and uh just getting bullied what what what whatever grade you're in when you're in sixth grade or whatever grade you're in when

you're six years old yeah yeah and getting bull i'm sorry but belichick got bullied today hank

yeah that is true that was a weird way to say it yeah got bullied in the snow yeah they got smoked

was that it i don't know i haven't heard as much as as much rumors he did schedule his media uh

Thank you. Yeah, they got smoked.
Was that it? I don't know. I haven't heard as much rumors.
He did schedule his media thing tomorrow for 730 in the morning, which is aggressive. I love that.
Oh, what if Belichick quits before he can get fired? That would be awesome. It was a sad day.
McDaniels was there. It was Slater's last game, Belichick's last game.

Everyone's leaving town.

It's sad.

The last dance is over.

It's probably over.

And it didn't go out well.

No, it did.

We got a better draft pick.

Right, but the product on the field was not great.

You can't have that much success for that long.

Nothing lasts forever, Big Cat, unfortunately. But the last five years?

They beat the playoffs a couple years ago.

They beat the Bills at Buffalo.

Yeah, Mac Jones was a Pro Bowler.

Remember that Buffalo game?

That was so much fun.

How many more games Mac Jones starts in the NFL?

Why was he deactivated today?

I don't know.

That didn't make a lot of sense.

How many more games?

Over, under, six and a half. Over.
I would take the under. It's the NFL.
Look who plays. There's a shitload of quarterbacks coming into the draft.
There's a lot of injuries, though. I'd say over.
Okay. Jeff Driscoll started today.
Yeah. Jeff Driscoll.
A.J. McCarron played today.
Yeah. Didn't start.
Didn't start. That's true.
Didn't start. The whole Vikings season.
So, by the way, congratulations. Bill Belichick tied the record for most regular season losses and also most losses overall.
So, pretty impressive. Sure.
Just means you've been doing it for a really long time. No, I mean, it's 165 losses.
Dan Reeves and Jeff Fisher, he tied. And then, including playoffs, 178 tied with Tom Landry.
He's a football lifer. I mean, yeah, he's got a shitload of wins.
It's like LeBron. Take enough shots.
You're going to miss a few. I do hope he quits, though.
That would be great, wouldn't it? It would be awesome. If you're just like, fuck everyone.
You guys are not thankful for what I did did you'd be walking away from a ton of money yeah but he but with that offset if he gets a new job it probably has offset language yeah so what are you gonna do what do you mean you're the third pick what are you gonna do i i asked you first i need to see what you're gonna do no no. You got to do it.
No, no. We're definitely not trading up.
I don't think you don't understand how this works. We're definitely not trading up.
We're not going to just tank the future for Caleb Williams. Okay.
Wait, what? It's the opposite of tanking the future. Well, no, but you tank.
You get rid of picks and assets as a gamble. The Patriots don't do that.
But you need a quarterback. Also, Hank...
But like you just said, there's a lot of quarterbacks in this draft. One thing you're not realizing, though, is the guy that doesn't do that is Bill Belichick.
True. I have no fucking idea.
I've never been in this position where the draft matters. You should think about what you're going to do.
I have never paid attention to the draft. I've never cared.
The Patriots usually pick 28th, 29th, 30th, 31st They draft a lineman, they trade down They have like three picks Who cares I've never worried about the draft Ever So I have no idea I saw Marvin Harrison Jr. in person on the field In Wisconsin against Ohio State He was really really good I would like him on the Patriots.
I heard Caleb Williams is really good. Kyle Long, when he was here one week, was really selling me on him.
I believe Kyle Long. I don't fucking know.
So you're going to stay put? Jane Daniels, Heisman, LSU. Are you going to trade down or are you going to stay put? I don't know.
You don't know. You don't have a plan.
Sounds like you don't have a plan. You have to have a plan.
Sounds like you might not even get your draft card on time.

I'm down for Marvin Harrison Jr.

Okay.

And he's going to slip, right?

Because you're going to take Caleb Williams.

You're going to take Drake.

I didn't say –

No, no, no.

I don't think you understand how this works.

Why would you not take Caleb Williams?

We hold the power, the picks in front of you, not you.

You need to make me an offer.

Yeah, right.

We're not doing that.

Oh, okay.

We're going to see who's available when it comes to us.

I'm not the fucking Patriots.

I don't know what they're going to do.

Who is the Patriots?

Robert Kraft is the owner of the Patriots.

Jonathan Kraft runs.

So, wait, if you're not the Patriots, you don't know what they're going to do,

why do you keep asking me what I'm going to do?

Because you are in a spot where you're like, Justin Fields, Justin Fields.

No, no, no, no, no.

Caleb Williams is the franchise quarterback. No.
You were smart. smart.
You would take Caleb Williams and get rid of Justin Fields. This is another situation of Hank not listening to me.
What have I said? I swear to God, you have not listened to the show in the last month. Well, you flip-flop every show.
I listen to one show, you say one thing. No, I've not.
I've said, no, I've said Ryan Poles, whatever he does, I'm down for. But that's what I just said.
Right. Well, Ryan Poles is going to make the decision.
What decision do you want him to make? I don't care. Whatever he's going to make is going to be the right decision because he's a smart guy and he put us in a great spot.
Got it. That's the point.
Got it. I've been saying that for a month.
Do you have an idea? What do you think he's going to make? Yeah, win. We're going to win.
Interesting. We're gonna fucking make bank if you are gonna drive a range rover we're gonna get chicks it's gonna be sick if you were ryan poles who would you take if i were ryan poles i would if i were ryan poles is exactly what i would do if i were ryan poles i would and and this is actually uh interesting because ryan poles uh deleted his twitter because he's like i don't i don't want the outside you would never do that right so but if i were ryan pole so he deleted his twitter i happen to have ryan pole's cell phone number so i texted him this morning i said i saw you deleted twitter good news is i have your phone number so we can talk at any time so the i were right yeah he did he's he's he did crying face emoji he was like like the actual crying or crying laughing? I think it was maybe crying.
Like actually crying. Like why is this guy texting me? If I were Ryan Poles, I would open up my phone and text my confidant, Podcaster Big Cat, and I'd ask him what to do.
And Podcaster Big Cat would say... Well, no, I'm Ryan Polouls right now.
What are you talking about? What if you were both Big Cat and Ryan Pouls? I can't be two men at once. Come on.
Which one would you rather me be? Who do you want me to be? The one that's going to give an answer on what to do. I just gave you an answer.
If I'm Ryan Pouls, I'd ask Big Cat. If I'm Big Cat, I trust Ryan Pouls.
What do you think is best for the future of the Chicago Bears? Whatever Ryan Pouls decides to. If Ryan Poles got hit by a bus, what would you do? I think I'd be next in command.
And then what would you do? I would trade every single pick and try to do my dream of having every single pick in the first round in 2028. Okay.
Just draft a super team. I would start tanking for Arch.
Imagine just having all those picks, just stockpiling all these picks, just being like, look at all these picks. It is nice looking at the draft order right now.
The future is limitless. Yeah, I'm addicted to it.
I'm addicted to the first pick. Okay, so Hank, you have no idea what you're going to do.
Would you like a quarterback? I would like Caleb Williams. Oh, interesting.
Well, you could get Caleb Williams. I don't want to trade up.
Oh, well, then you can't get Caleb Williams. But what if you don't take him? We would trade him.
And Washington loves UNC quarterbacks. You don't understand, Hank.
One UNC quarterback. Here's something I'll explain to you that's very simple.
If Ryan Poles decides Justin Fields is the guy, he will trade the first pick to someone who was going to pick Caleb Williams. Who falls in that category.
I'm new to this draft thing. Hank actually doesn't understand that someone might – What teams have that? Last year, that's exactly what happened.
The Bears had the number one pick, and someone traded into the number one spot to get Bryce Young, which was a mistake. But he doesn't understand the concept that if the Bears don't take Caleb Williams, that they're going to just take someone else.
He thinks that they wouldn't trade. Right.
They will trade to someone who wants to take Caleb Williams. Right.
You're not going to take Marvin Harrison Jr. with the first overall pick.
Correct. All right.
Then I'm down for it. Give me Marvin Harrison Jr.
The Titans, the Falcons, the Giants. The Titans? They might.
The Falcons, the Giants, the Vikings, the Broncos. Daniel Jones, a bajillion dollars.
I'm giving you all these teams that would possibly trade to number one. The Broncos, the Raiders, the Saints could.
You could maybe talk the Commanders to doing it too.

Seattle, the Commanders.

There's so many teams that would trade up to one if the price is right.

Again, I'm dumb.

I'm stupid.

I don't know football that well.

I didn't like the crying thing with Caleb Williams personally,

so that wouldn't make me want to trade up for him.

Reminded of Matt Jones a little bit.

Kyle Long was like, you really want Caleb Williams. Trust me, so I do trust him.
So maybe I want Caleb Williams. I got to talk to Ryan Poles about it.
Yeah. I'm good with Marvin Harrison Jr.
though. What I would like to do is trade up to the number one spot, give Big Cat some assets.
I get the number one overall pick, and then I flip that number one overall pick, and I make assets off that asset. Now you've got compounding assets.
I would love nothing more if Ryan Poles decides the correct path is to trade the number one overall pick and I make assets off that asset. Now you've got compounding assets.
I would love nothing more if Ryan Poles decides the correct path is to trade the number one pick to trade it to one of the two of you so then I can root against your team next year to then get the number one pick again. But what if that number one pick turned into a multi-time Super Bowl winner that you could have had? Then that would be awesome.
Yeah, could. Could.
Could also turn into Bryce Young, which equals

another number one pick. See how

that works? It's fun.

He really has no idea how the draft works.

Yeah, you've always

taken Northwestern offensive linemen.

And you're like, wake me up on day three.

It's like, who do we draft? We traded down

and then we drafted a lineman.

We drafted Nikhil Harry once. That was like the most

exciting pick in the last 20 years. The concept that

Hank doesn't understand that the Bears,

if they want to go forward with Justin Fields

Thank you. And then we drafted a lineman.
We drafted Nikhil Harry once. That was like the most exciting pick in the last 20 years.
The concept that Hank doesn't understand that the Bears,

if they want to go forward with Justin Fields,

would trade the number one pick to someone who would take Caleb Williams

is so foreign to him.

He thinks that we'll just be like, no, actually, yeah,

we'll take Marvin Harrison Jr.

We have no other option.

We'll respect the integrity of the order of the NFL draft.

Yeah, this makes sense.

Okay, Bengals and Browns, all I got is Jake Browning's girlfriend or wife. I think it was his wife.
It was a great choice on her part to wear the bodysuit. Yo, listen.
Jake Browning, listener of the show, respect. That's all I got.
Yeah. Respect.
Listen, tip of the hat. Nice work, Jake.
Yeah. Very cool, Jake.
I mean, listen. The Bengals-Browns game was not an enjoyable watch except for that moment where everyone was like, whoa.
And she was up in Joe Burrow's box. She was in Joe Burrow's box.
And she looked great. Yeah.
She looks like a very good choice for your wife, Jake. Girlfriend.
Girlfriend. Girlfriend.
Oh, I thought it was wife. Okay.
Girlfriend. All right.
Better make that official, Jake. Yeah.
I mean, that's a good girlfriend move. Yeah.
Her Instagram probably blew up during this game. I'll say that.
What is it? I don't know. I should check.
Someone find it. I'll send it to the group.
You have it, Meems? I just want to see if she – I want to know where she got that outfit because it was a cool outfit. Yeah.
I would like one myself. I think my curves would pop in them as well.
You can't tell the story of the 2023 NFL season without knowing where she got that outfit. How many texts do you think Jake Browning had when he got to the locker room? A lot.
A lot. Yeah.
Good for the Bengals, I guess. I don't know.
We got to see Jeff Driscoll. Joe Flacco was sitting on the sideline.
The Browns got bigger fish to fry. It's just so awesome that we've reached the point where Joe Flacco needs to be rested in a Week 18 game to get ready for the playoffs.
Yeah. Okay.
Anything else from this game? I got nothing else from this game. Memes just sent her Instagram over, so I'm just reviewing that to make sure that's her.
Yep, that looks like her. Yep, I see.
She got the bodysuit. She's having a great time.
Bodysuit looks good. Also, the fact that she's wearing a JB bodysuit in Joe Burrow's box, that's kind of cool, too.

Oh, that is cool.

To go for either one of them.

Yeah, right.

It works for everything.

Should I like this?

I feel like I should.

Out of respect, I'm going to.

It would be rude for me not to double tap it.

There we go.

Agreed.

Agreed.

Just because I like the fact that she showed support for our guy, Jake.

Right.

Exactly. Exactly.
I want to encourage that type of behavior. And just, I'm a fashion fan.
I've never seen that type of outfit in a box. It's incredible.
It's incredible. Yeah.
Okay. Let's take a break, and then we'll get to the afternoon games.
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Bucks nine, Panthers zero. Yeah, not a lot happened in this game.
Congratulations to the Bucks. They've made the playoffs, what, four years? They've won the division, was it three years in a row? Yeah, Bucks win the NFC South.
Also, perfect way for the Panthers to go out where we've watched too much Panthers football because we have every game on. And them having – it's so, so, so hard for them to score points.
It's very, very difficult for the Panthers to score points. And them having a touchdown that ended up being a touchback was a perfect ending to the Panthers season and ending with zero points.
If you're a Panthers fan, you go through the stages of grief when you you're about to score a touchdown kind of you start you start looking for the flags after they get in the open right about 30 yards and then you start looking for defenders that will corner flag them and take them out of bounds at like the two yard line and then you won't score after that and this was the worst where you're diving into the end zone and you lose the ball at about the half yard line and they actually did score a touchdown later on in the game that was brought back from flag. It was brought back from the flag, yeah.
So this is just a bummer of a year for Panthers fans. Yeah, well, they got the first pick.
They did get the first pick in the draft, which is going to the Bears. Yes, and David Tepper is the worst owner in the NFL.
David Tepper went – let's celebrate the accomplishments. He went a week without pouring a drink on an opposing fan that we know of.
If David Tepper had any bits of smarts, he would have done two for ones today in the stadium. Yeah, that'd be nice.
And he just stood there and threw the second one at people. Or just buy him for Jacksonville.
Yeah. Yeah.
Jacksonville needs beer. Yeah, Jacksonville does need beer.
Okay, so congrats to the Bucs. We'll get to the Bucs-Eagles matchup later on in the week and Max having to go down to Tampa.
All right. Packers 17, Bears 9.
All I wrote down was I'm sad. Go get the best deal.
Okay, so those are my notes. We're on to the draft.
Those are my notes. I was very sad about this.
I thought the Bears were going to win this game. I dubbed it my Super Bowl.
I said they were going to win this game. Turns out Jordan Love is really fucking good.
I've done this speech before. You don't need to hear it again.
Life is unfair. The Packers going from Brett Favre to Aaron Rodgers.
Jordan Love is just the shining example of how unfair life is. And, yeah, Packers are good.

Matt LaForge is a great coach.

They're in a rebuilding year and they got to the playoffs.

And the Bears, that sucked.

I still am very optimistic about the Bears' future, but that fucking sucked.

You guys saw it.

I was silent for like an hour and a half after the game.

But I'm optimistic about the future.

That sucked a lot.

The Bears cannot beat the Packers.

It's impossible for them to beat the Packers.

They're going to be a good one. for the game.
But I'm optimistic about the future. That sucked a lot.
The Bears cannot beat the Packers.

It's impossible for them to beat the Packers.

They're going to have to figure that part out.

That's going to be a big point.

Figure out how to beat the Packers.

We're 10-0 all the time against the Bears.

All the stats.

Jordan Love had the best season that a Bears quarterback would have ever had.

They're just – there's nothing I can do. It sucks.
I hate – I hate this feeling. So, we have the number one pick.
We have the number one pick. I just – I really, really wanted to win this game.
I wanted to get the Packers out of the playoffs. Now I can't even revel in the Packers losing in the playoffs because this is a rebuilding year for them, and they made the playoffs, and they did it by beating the bears in week 18 and just every it's like time is a flat circle the bears cannot beat the packers they just can't and it just fucking sucks everything sucks about it and the packers are a good organization and the bears are aspiring to be a good organization and we'll see if they get there all history shows they will not so um when of this game.
Every organization aspiring to be a good organization? What? Isn't every organization aspiring to be a good organization? Well, no, there's some organizations that are good organizations. Right, but every bad organization aspires to be a good organization.
Eh, there's been times when the Bears I don't even think are trying to be good. There's actually, have you ever watched Major League Baseball? There's a lot of teams that really don't give a shit.
Yeah. The White Sox.

Yeah.

I had a lot of tweets that came my way after you pretended to be hacked, Big Cat.

Oh, yeah.

And most of them were saying, hey, PFT, can you ask Big Cat, since he's hacked,

his comment on the Bears continuing to suck?

I just want to give a voice to them because they asked me to ask you that.

Yeah.

No, they can't beat the Packers. I don't know what to say.
They suck. Like, we can't beat the Packers.
We can't. And Jordan Love is really fucking good, and it's not fair.
He was throwing dimes. And, again, I want to be consistent.
Hanks, see, this is the problem. Hanks on his phone.
He's not listening right now. So when I say this next week, he'll be like, you flip-flop.
I was trying to find your Twitter. He'll be like, you flip-flop, you flip-flop.
I am very optimistic about the Bears' future. I think that they have the bones for a, like, their defense is good.
They have all these draft assets. They have all this cap space.
I'm very optimistic about the Bears' future. They played well down the stretch.
They have to nail this draft, and they have to figure out a way to beat the Packers because we can't beat the Packers and that is a problem and it makes me very sad and I'm kind of wish I didn't like sports so to answer your question no I know what Max there was one particular person that wasn't mentioned in any of, what? I'm just thinking about how good this is going to add to that montage that we made of you. I feel like I'm staying.
I'm not as down in the dumps. I'm being optimistic.
I'm talking about the future, guys. You haven't mentioned Justin Fields once.
Brian Poles is going to work on it. Isn't this a good thing that you lost your gateway game? Because how much more crushing would this loss have been if you know, I still would have won.
No, no, yes, no, this you would be, you would be suicide. Oh, I would.
I want, of course I would. If you said, would I rather have had a chance to play? Like this still hurts.
It hurts the same. I would have loved to have a chance to play to get in the playoffs in week 18.
That would have been incredible. I, I Ryan pull is going to figure it out, okay? All questions.

I should do like a forward email

out of office. I'm out of office

for the next three months.

If you have any issues or

any problems, please forward them to

Ryan Poles. He will figure it out.

And you trust him completely?

100%. He's put us in

this spot where I can be optimistic about the Bears

future for the first time in a very long time. Like, they have everything in front of them.
You have to nail this draft. You have to also figure out a way to beat the Packers because they can't beat the Packers.
You have to figure out this draft. Do you think the quarterback position as it's currently constituted is in a position to beat the Packers? What do you mean, there it is, Hank? I want Iberflus gone.
They said that he's staying. What am I going to say? Of course I want him gone.
The fucking Jim Nance and Tony Romo started blowing Luke Getze, and then immediately after there was two negative plays. They need new coaching.
But what the fuck? I trust Ryan Pohl, so if he's like, we're keeping Iberflus, guess what? I put myself in a bad spot here. So, Big Cat, my question was, do you think that the quarterback position as it's currently uh composited is in a position to beat the packers moving forward uh thank you i appreciate this question pft i am currently out of the office okay all all all issues or concerns if this is an emergency please contact ryan poles he is available do you think that we'll answer all your questions? Could you ask Ryan Poles if Ryan Poles were here right now? What do you think he would say to the fact that getting a younger quarterback earlier on their rookie deal might put your team in an overall better position to take on the green Bay Packers and the Detroit lions, mind you moving forward, as to paying a quarterback, and then you have less money to spend on positions of need.
You'd say that's an interesting proposition, PFT. I would like to talk to my close personal friend, Big Cat, and discuss this with him.
But unfortunately, he's out of office. We're just in a circular pattern.
Yeah. I don't know the answer.
Wait, Hank has a question. We're not good right now.'re gonna be good i think hank what's your question i need we need to figure out it's like the fucking it's like the enigma we gotta crack the code and figure out how to beat the packers we gotta get our best guys on it let's get every every brain we got we gotta figure out a way to beat the packers did tony romo and Jim Nance announcing the game enhance your experience? No, it made it significantly worse.
We have breaking moves. Suck.
Even if we got fired? This is sad breaking news. Oh, no.
Arthur Smith is not going to go to the Falcons. That sucks.
Moment of silence for Arthur Smith. Damn it.
He'll fall on his feet. feet i think he'll be okay he'll be all right we love arthur smith it sucked how that all went down um maybe back to the titans maybe maybe yeah maybe back to the titans um okay have i answered all the questions uh maybe coach to the commanders maybe coach to the commanders we got fedex right on the side of our building have i answered all the questions? Maybe coach to the commanders.
Maybe coach to the commanders. We got FedEx right on the side of our building.
Have I answered all the questions you've had, Hank, and PFT? No, Hank had one more. Did you forget it, Hank? Remember you raised your hand in everything? I called on it.
I asked the Tony Romo question. Oh, yeah, the Tony Romo.
That sucked. And he was mimicking Jordan Love's throwing patterns, and I wanted to fucking throw something through the TV.
Okay, I do

one more question. Yeah, yeah.

It's PFT, yes. From a technical standpoint,

I'm asking your question. Is this a question for me

or Ryan Poulos? I'm asking your opinion as a

football fan. Okay.
You watch a lot of football, right? I do.

But you don't watch college football. I do

actually watch a lot of college football as well. Okay, so

technically, from a

physical standpoint, who do you think

is the more complete quarterback, Justin Fields or Caleb Williams, as a football fan? That's a great question, PFT. Thanks.
I'm going to have to forward it to Ryan Pohl. No, he's been working.
He doesn't have anything to do with this. I'm asking.
You've watched a lot of college football. Like in a vacuum.
In a vacuum. In a vacuum.
Yeah. That's a great question.
All right. So I'll say, PFT, that's a great question.
Thank you. I'm going to have to watch some more tape myself to give a better idea.
You watched a lot. I have watched a lot, but I also would like to interview these guys.
But I didn't think you'd watched any of Caleb Williams, and then you just said, no, I've actually watched all of Caleb Williams. Well, I need to really break it down.
Also, last time I talked to Caleb Williams is when I DM'd him, and I said, hey, come to Madison. We can make some sick T-shirts.
So he hasn't responded to me.

That was two years ago.

It sounds like you really like the idea of Caleb Williams being on one of your teams.

It is an option that we're weighing.

Okay.

What about we got to beat the Packers?

We got to find a way to beat the Packers.

We can't beat the Packers.

And it fucking bothers me to no end.

And I really wish we had won this game. And all the future is bright, I think.
If you make the right choice. If we make the right choice.
I'll say this. Here's a definitive thing.
This is the most important offseason for the Chicago Bears as a franchise. They have to make the right choices.
Whatever the choices are, they've got to make the right choices. I would lean, kill limbs.
What about a 10? Oh, wait, wait. We just got to lean.
Lean. That's a lean.
That's not more than a lean. But that's you talking out of your ass.
That's not Ryan Poles. That's my personal lean.
Yeah, but that has nothing to do with anything. That has nothing to do with, it's not an official play.
I haven't released an official play. And if the lean turns out to be right, I'll take credit the lean think of the money i thought of the money max the money i've thought of the money but i love the picks too no and caleb williams cried that one time it's also interesting because you could say that last offseason was the most important decision that you guys had because you could have taken cj strad that was not an option which you just said not an option what any team would be lucky to have that was not an option they were they have.
That was not an option. They were in a transition period.
We were still trying to figure out. Last offseason, Ryan Poles got an A+.
You got DJ Moore in the first pick. You can't.
That was an incredible haul. One of the worst trades ever by the Panthers.
And we get their second pick now. What would you rather have, DJ Moore in the first pick or CJ Stroud? That was not an option at the time.

Nope, it wasn't.

I think it was.

We weren't in that mindset.

We've since changed mindsets.

We're in a growth mindset now.

Okay.

What was your mindset then?

We were in a...

When now?

No, we were in a rebuild, collect assets mindset is rebuild also another word for growth no because we didn't rebuild that well we're still rebuilding we're still growing we're growing boy we got to drink our milk we got to get our eight hours of sleep we're growing okay we're we're great eaters we gotta we gotta grow some more got it there's gonna This is going to be a great growth season. I think I nailed all the answers.

Eileen Cale Williams.

He's so fucking good.

And he would also just make me excited for a couple more years.

Now, would you be upset?

Until he sucked.

Could you get assets?

And then I'd be sad again.

But I'd have a couple years of being excited.

Would you be upset if I traded you the second overall pick for the first overall pick and then you know tossed in maybe some second rounders um you promised to take drake may and we took caleb williams would that make you upset it might make me a little upset um caleb williams never lost to the packers that's true so there is that yeah that's a great stat all right uh draft goes through us yep draft goes through us

hank still doesn't understand that but draft goes through us uh okay next game the packers are

really good by the way i i know that i'm a sore loser and being a bitch they're they're i don't

know what you want to say jordan loves really good the running game looks good too aj dylan's

awesome and they're just that is what a model organization looks like when they rebuild they're

still in the playoffs like that's how it's done they have a great coach they have a great

Thank you. AJ Dillon's awesome.
And they're just, that is what a model organization looks like. When they rebuild, they're still in the playoffs.

Like, that's how it's done.

They have a great coach.

They have a great infrastructure.

They figured out the hack to quarterbacks.

Draft them, sit them, make them good, make them Hall of Famers. Then you set them free and just rain terror on everyone for 15 years.

And then they go to the Jets.

Yeah, and then they go to the Jets.

And then they just restart the whole fucking thing, and I cannot believe it's restarted again but here we are jordan love is the real deal there i said it happy packers fans uh okay giants 27 eagles 10 now we switch the focus giants wait hold on i i don't think i asked the question yet. Giants 27, Eagles 10.
That is the correct score. Yeah.
That's not a question, but that is the correct score. How does that score make you feel? Bad.
The answer to that question is bad. Yeah.
And with A.J. Brown, do you think he's really hurt or do you think he was upset that he fumbled? I think he was hurt, but I think he'll be okay next week.

Are you sure?

No, I'm not sure.

I'm not a fucking doctor.

Uh-oh.

I'm trying not to curse and get angry during this.

Did your mom tell you that?

My mom did tell me that.

All right, so let's talk about something more lighthearted.

Jalen Hurts' middle finger, how does that look?

He came back in the game after that.

Yeah, and then I think he threw a pick.

Thank you. All right, so let's talk about something more lighthearted.
Jalen Hurts' middle finger. How does that look? He came back in the game after that.
Yeah, and then I think he threw a pick. He came back in the game and then threw a pick.
Well, the Cowboys started to blow him out, so then they rested the starters. Yeah, you guys got whooped.
Yeah, bad football team. You got whooped.
I said they were a bad football team last week. But what about A.J.
Brown's speech to Nick Sirianni? Yeah, well, they got me, you know.

But they're still a bad football team. And I said, I didn't say that that changed my mind.

I said that opened the opportunity to change my mind.

Got it.

Okay, I got it.

Sounds like me right now.

Mine's not changed.

Correct.

What about this quote from Sirianni after the game?

We lost five of our last six.

That doesn't discredit the rest of the season.

You are as good as you are.

Fuck.

I can't even.

I don't know.

I don't know what I'm saying.

The team's a bad football team right now.

I don't care what they were doing at the first 11 games.

So you're disagreeing with Nick Sirianni.

You do discredit the rest of the season.

I'm disagreeing with everything Nick Sirianni is saying.

It is like saying, how come no one's talking about all the flights Bill Clinton didn't take on Epstein's check? Correct. Yeah.
Do you think he can win this game? It's crazy that the Eagles are in the playoffs. Also, shout out all the people who had the Eagles win total over.
I think it was 11.

I would have lost my... So they pushed.

They were 10-1, and they pushed.

That's brutal.

Max was also saying earlier that he would trade seasons

with all of us in a heartbeat.

Yeah.

Limping into the playoffs.

You would rather be in this room.

And also, Shane's in this room, and Shane has the fourth pick overall. Fifth.
Oh, shit. So, yeah, boys are loaded.
We're stacked right now. That's not what I – And Max would trade this entire season to be in our position.
So, really, we won. What I said is if anyone in here wanted to trade their pick for a playoff spot, for our playoff spot, I would take the pick.
I'm'm gonna have to get back to you after i talk with josh harris okay uh max can you win this game on monday night the fact that your favorite favorite is insane yeah look i guess as bad as the eagles played today the bucks also look they did. They looked bad.
So that's why I guess it kind of makes sense.

And we did already go to Tampa on Monday Night Football and beat the Bucs.

But that was a different football team.

Those Eagles.

That was those Eagles.

This Eagles.

I mean, they're legitimately the worst team in football right now.

Are you worried that because you've gone to Tampa already this year

that they have the tape out on Jalen Hurts scrambling to the right and then throwing it out of bounds? Your favorite play? You kept saying that today. The number one receiver was 90-year-old Julio Jones.
But that wasn't just this game. He does it like 17 times a game.
You kept being like, look at this, look at this. There's no way anyone was open at all as soon as A.J.
Brown went down. Sounds like Jalen Hurts is a system quarterback.
I would love to look at any quarterback in the NFL if their top three weapons go down. Well, let's see.
C.J. Stroud had a lot of guys, right? Yeah.
Patrick Holmes has no one. Patrick Holmes lost all his weapons.
Travis Kelsey, his number one. He's old.
Yeah. Nico Collins wasn't their number one guy at the start of the season.
Yes, he was. Tank Dell.
Tank Dell was not their number one at the start of the season. He got to their number one.
We've got to flip it back. He got one right there.
So was Travis Kelsey. We don't want to let him get a couple right in a row.
Dallas Goddard was still out there. Yeah, I would say he's the number four option.
Wait, so who's your three? DeAndre Swift. Is your – for catching the ball? I'm just saying offensive weapons.
I don't know about that, Maxie. Would you not – Well, as bad as the offense looks, the defense does not look any better.
Yeah, Tyrod. Carved you up.
Second half look good? Max was saying that, too. He was like, held them to three points in the second half.
The fucking six-win Giants with Tyrod Taylor. You're like, man, we held them to three points.
No, yeah, Matt Patricia transition has gone poorly, but I don't know. You thought you were going to win this game, and this was a get right before the get right.
I did not say that. No, but you needed them to and they looked like dog shit.
Yeah, no, wait. At no point did I say that.
I'm pretty sure last week I said that they should be dogs in this game. Yeah.
So what about next week? Must win? Nope. What? Not a must win.
Switching. You're switching it up.
Switching it up.

This guy made every inconsequential regular season game a must win,

and he's not making the playoff.

Wow.

Well, it's a spoiler.

Well, good news for you, Max.

The gauntlet is over.

I mean, the gauntlet.

Yeah, the Giants.

The gauntlet is over.

Giants, Cardinals, Giants.

What a gauntlet.

You didn't survive the gauntlet.

No, we didn't survive shit. Yeah.
Man, to think the Eagles were 10-1, a team that beat the Bills. Do you guys think that Nick Sirianni will be fired if they lose next week? I think he might.
Depends on how they lose. That's the one thing I respect.
I don't think it matters. That's the one thing I respect about Philadelphia is they do not tolerate shit.
Yeah. I think it depends on how they lose.
What's a scenario? Miss kick at the end of the game. Like down one miss kick.
The Eagles were 10-1. I understand.
They're not good. They were 10-1.
Some people are calling him a coordinator merchant. After coming off of wins against the Chiefs and the bills and the dolphins look at look at the drafts that's so sick one two three oh look at that and and i got nine no big deal in my back pocket nine i love that for us guys yeah we're gonna be the number one draft podcast in america yeah it's gonna be great when you trade justin fields to the patriots for their for their their second round pick.
What? That would actually be great for the show. Yeah, that would if we got a second for him, that would be great.
No, I think that's going to happen. Oh.
And then the Patriots go Marvin Harris and Justin Fields. And Belichick goes to the commanders? Yeah.
We're just fucking we're all just white swapping. Yeah, it's just a whole thing.
I like it. Oh, shit.
Just sharing our game with everyone else. I'm in for it.
Next year's going to be fun. I'm in for it.
Yeah. Eagles are going to suck.
Okay, Max, I am worried about Max because I really wanted him to win this game. I want him to win Monday Night Football.
I want to get him up. I hate CMJ.
It's the Bucs. They're going to win.
It's the fucking Bucs. I want to crush him.
He can't be crushed right now. We just lost to the Cardinals and the Giants.
They just beat the Panthers by nine points. They kicked three field goals.
But that game didn't really matter if you won that game. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
What do you mean that game didn't matter? Oh, I thought you were talking about the Giants game. The problem is, Max, if they lose on Monday night by like 20, we're not going to get sad Max.
Yeah, he's going to be like fire Sirianni. He's going to be like, this is a joke of a season.
Fuck everyone. I saw this coming from a million miles away.
They need to beat the Bucs. Smoke them.
They're going to smoke them. Okay.
But then we go to the – No, no, no. This is what we need.
Then where do you go? They need to beat the Bucs, and I'm sorry Lions fans, but the Rams beat the Lions, and then the Eagles go to the Cowboys. That's what you need.
That's best for the show. Saturday night.
Kettle corn. Max, Hank, and Tiff.
All in the big D. There's no way that game would be on Saturday.
It could be. Never know.
Never know, Max. 50-50 shots.
That's the game we have to go. Yeah, I think I might go too.
Fuck it. I'll film.
Oh, actually, I'm not going to go. What am I saying? But you guys are going to go.
I'm not going. I'm actually going.
I'm not going. You and Hank are going to have to go down there.
I'm not going. That would be awesome.
Yeah. Yeah.
Memes, can I just make one request for this trip you guys are going to make? You're going to bring a good camera, but when Max gets in a fight, please just use a cell phone camera so that we can feel like it's the real raw footage. Also, the Eagles playing on Monday night, there's no way that they would put him on Saturday night.
Oh, yeah, true, true, true. No, I'm saying even if it's on Sunday, we have to go.
Yeah. No.
Yeah. No.
Come on. No.
Yeah, please. On Sunday, no.
I think you probably should go to that.

All right, well, that's what I'm rooting for now.

I want the Eagles to go to the Cowboys because Max can't –

he physically would not be able to, like, be devastated

if they lost to the Cowboys in the playoffs.

Yeah.

It would devastate him.

There's nothing you can say.

You can't be like, I knew we sucked.

If you played the Dallas Cowboys in the playoffs,

you would be a wreck if you lost that game.

Yeah.

Okay, so... and say you can't be like i knew we sucked if you played the dallas cowboys in the playoffs you would be a wreck if you lost that game yeah okay so all right we got there uh okay uh next game cowboys 38 commanders 10 pft this game went about as expected showed a little fight in the first quarter which i was happy to see and then ron worked his magic i was a little bit afraid that they were going to do something stupid like beat the Cowboys.
Yep. Now I'm just looking at the second overall pick.
And you know what? I feel good about the way the season ended because Ron's gone. We're moving on.
We're changing everything. Everybody that's been around and been a part of my terrible, terrible franchise and sad state of affairs is going to be gone.
New ownership, probably a new name, new head coach, maybe a new quarterback, second overall pick. I'm feeling good about it.
We've been in an open relationship with Ron Rivera for the last two months of the season where he's known that he's been fired. But we're going to talk to people on the side.
It's going to be an open relationship for us, not for you, Ron.

But I'm looking forward to the coaching search more than anything.

That's fun.

It's feisty.

We get to track airplanes.

It's plane tracking season.

I'm going to be all over that.

I've looked at my short list that I'm supposed to be looking at of coaches.

I'm thinking maybe Sloic.

Maybe we bring back a guy.

Maybe the only way to defeat the graphic that gets used against us all the time

I'm not going toic. Maybe we bring back a guy.
Maybe the only way to defeat the graphic that gets used against us all the time of former Washington head coaches that were on that 2013 team that now went on to achieve great success everywhere else, maybe it's to bring one of them home. Yeah.
Maybe we bring Sloic home. I like that.
Or maybe, I don't know, we're probably going to give Biennemi a shot at interviewing for the job.

I want a new coach so bad. I want – we're going to have a new coach.

I don't think it's going to be Biennemi.

He's got just enough stink of the old guard on him.

He was around Rivera.

He probably picked up too many bad habits.

Also, Ron Rivera, great guy, good human being, terrible football coach.

Way better human being than coach.

So much better.

As good of a coach as he is, he's infinity times better agreed of a human being than he is his coach i'm just i'm very excited for the coaching search i'm excited about belichick possibilities i'm excited about just torturing hank with that yep i don't know if i'm totally excited about him being the head coach but i am very very i'm very pumped up to just be like hank look Yeah. Your guy, Bill.
I got your best friend. I would be excited for Bill to break the all-time record for coaching wins on my sideline rather than the Hank sideline.
I'm just pumped up for an offseason where the sky's the limit. This is like – this might be the greatest offseason in part of my take history.
It feels like this is going to be this can be it for us we're all gonna we're all gonna make moves to just become awesome yeah we're gonna have six packs yeah we're in such good shape yeah diet starts tomorrow our team's gonna be awesome we're the three of us are probably gonna be in like over under seven super bowls for the three of us over in the next 10 years what if this is what if i'd say over comes like a bizarro world not obviously excluding hank because he's won super bowls on this podcast but what if it just became comes a bizarro world this offseason it could just just switch and it's just like we're now a podcast of winners it could it could very easily become that i i saw josh harris also up in the booth today and he was wearing a w hat again not having the word commanders yeah his jacket all yes big cat I got a question for you pft um i am very excited uh to say your excitement i'm i'm very excited right uh because i i share your excitement i it's it's clear we're both very excited uh i noticed though you didn't mention the quarterback position right well that's there's you know 22 positions on the football field right but what what will you be doing with the position? We're going to evaluate it just like we evaluate any other position. Would you like to – you could actually ask Ryan Pouls for some help if you need.
Yeah, I might. Can I have his number? Yeah.
I mean, if there's one guy that knows the quarterback position, it's Ryan Pouls. And I'll be the first to tell you, I don't watch as much college football as you do, Big Cat.
I only watch probably, I don't know, seven or eight hours of college football every weekend. Yeah.
But I'm not the expert on Caleb Williams. I'm not the expert on Drake May.
I'm not the expert on Jaden Daniels. I'm not the expert on Michael Pinnix.
So I'm going to leave that to the people that know more about the sport than I do. Nice.
Smart. But as far as I'm concerned, every position from the top down,

head coach all the way to the long snapper to the kicker,

everyone except for Tress Way is competing for position next year.

Now, our follow-up question.

If you had a lean, what would your lean be?

My lean would be that I'm leaning towards every guy

that needs to prove himself next year,

shows up in training camp and works their tail off. Okay.
So you don't want a new quarterback? I'm not here to say whether or not I want a new quarterback. Sam Howell has certainly done some good things for us this year.
He's done some bad things for us. I'm just saying.
Oh. That goes off right now.
You have a minute left to make a pick. Yeah, one minute left.
Who's your pick? Wait, where am I picking? Caleb i picking just went number one overall we don't know to who kail Williams off the board uh i'm taking i'm picking up the phone and i'm making calls i'm seeing if anybody wants to trade up oh wait i'm gonna call right now yeah oh it's hank lockwood hey hank this is pft sorry i'm a little bit sleepy i would just say the night over at my girl's place uh somebody getting bad cell reception because it's at at&t stadium um i'm just curious uh if i could move up to the number two pick and offer you every first round pick for the next three years yeah yeah absolutely that's how the draft gets done wheel and deal and so hank you're on the clock marvin harrison jr michaelix. You're taking both of them? You get a two for one? Yeah.
Oh, okay. You really don't know how the draft works.
No, Hank just thought that he traded up and didn't give you his third play. Oh, and he still has his third play.
Yeah. Holy shit, this guy.
That's how the draft is done. He doesn't know how the draft is done.
I think I just got draft-aid by Hank. Okay, but you want a quarterback.
I think we should kick the tires on a quarterback. Yeah.
And listen, let Sam Howell compete. Sam Howell had some very good parts of his season.
I'm just going to go with the party line that Sam Howell was injured. Yeah.
He was hurt. He got knocked around a lot.
I'm not going to forget the moments of joy that Sam brought me this year. Soupy.

We also got to say, and this is all three of us,

we have to just say that it's going to be smokescreen season soon.

We can't give away what we want to do.

It's true.

So we have to just make sure that everyone's confused as we are.

I'm going to wait until all the facts come out on all the players,

find out whose mom was a prostitute, how they did on the S2 condition test.

Cat or dog.

Cat or dog.

Maybe see if any of them want to work out as wide receiver.

And then I'm going to make the decision based on that information.

Right now, you're asking me to make a decision based on incomplete information.

Yeah.

I love that for you.

But yeah, I would like to have you either Caleb or Drake.

Yeah.

Okay.

So there you go.

You have our leans.

I'm leaning either Caleb Williams or Drake May.

Well, I'm leaning Caleb, so you'd have to lean Drake May.

Unless you lean away.

Unless you're your pick. Right.
To me. Right.
Or to Hank. In which case, I might start to lean Caleb.
Or you'd have Marvin Harrison Jr. It's not happening.
Just shut up about that. It's an option.
I'll just say it. I want Drake May.
I want Drake May. I want Caleb Williams.
I just said it. But if we moved up to number one, I might lean Caleb Williams.
In the three slot. Okay, well, you're not going to get him.
Yeah, that's not happening. In the three slot.
Jesus Christ. No, and you never know Big Cat.
You just said he wants Drake May. Because you...
I want Caleb Williams. I have the one pick.
If Big Cat takes Marvin Harrison with the number one overall pick like you have, then Hank thinks that I'm going to take Drake May with the second pick, and then Caleb's going to fall to him. He just can't get it through his head.
But wait, Hank, I'm confused. Don't the Patriots, wouldn't they take calls and then load up with a haul and trade back? No, you need a quarterback.
You need a franchise quarterback. I'm very excited for this to become a draft podcast.
We're going to break down so much. I'm also very excited for us to take williams jake may and hank to not have a quarterback and be like how did this happen yeah i don't understand we had the number three pick uh okay uh cowboys i don't know they now get the two seeds so they're gonna have at least two games at home if they win so we won't find out like the cowboys are live because they could easily just you know they play if they get to the nfc championship game against the 49ers all you gotta do is win one game so who they play in the second round they would potentially play the it depends yeah there's reseeds or not but lions it's all home yeah yeah yeah i would i would like to see that yeah that'd be a fun game cowboys lions yep redo it induct jimmyo it.
Induct Jimmy Johnson to the Ring of Honor again. Yeah, have the same refs.
Or, like, kick him out before the game and then bring him back in. Yeah.
Okay, Rams-Niners, we'll just wrap up real quick. Puka Nakua, 105 receptions, 1,486 yards, rookie record on both accounts.
Incredible season. Also, this game was fun because it was a Week 18 game with two playoff teams and Carson Wentz was playing Sam Darnold yep who would have thought pretty incredible and they ran Carson Wentz into the ground 17 times they gave him the ball on 17 I think 17 design carries for the most part yeah a couple scrambles but I would say he probably had like 13 or 14 running plays yeah I think they were just trying to get him injured yeah i think mcveigh is already sick of his shit yeah i think so too and we also had a great he had a great all-time carson wentz play too where he was getting sacked and he was falling onto his ass and he tried to throw the ball back like he passed it backwards but then his ass was too big yeah so his ass was on the ground on a fourth down yeah it was but yeah that was a it was fun to watch carson wentz for sam donald in week 18 two playoff teams yep uh it was a vanilla off like the offenses both teams were running they were saying we don't want we don't want to show you anything that we're actually going to use yeah because we might play again we're going to run a hilariously bad offense intentionally right because if the rams win they'll they'll go or most likely go back to san francisco yep and uh yeah i mean the rams are dangerous i'm gonna keep saying it rams are dangerous they're officially dangerous isn't it crazy how the nfc playoffs are just it we all year the the beginning of the year is like who the hell is going to come out of the afc nfc feels like they have some really good teams they all could get hot's including, like, that's 1 through 7 minus 5.
No, I would say the Eagles could get hot. They could.
The Eagles, they were in the Super Bowl last year. 1 through 7 minus 4 and 5.
I could see any of those teams being in the NFC Championship. Those Eagles, if they can figure out a way to transform back into those Eagles that we saw earlier this year, those Eagles could win the NFC.
And the Bucs won a Super Bowl a couple years ago. Yeah.
You could see the Packers winning at Dallas and San Francisco? No. Not San Francisco, but I could definitely see them beating Dallas.
Yeah. The Niners are the Packers.
The Niners are to the Packers what the Packers are to the Bears. So, like, the Niners are like kind of – they're like my protector.
They're the team that makes that makes sure that I can go to sleep at night they're the meme make the meme for me memes I'm sleeping at night and the Niners are are sitting there taking all the arrows from the Packers got it uh okay Raiders Broncos Antonio Pierce should be the head coach that's all I got I have a feeling that he's not because they've had every opportunity to say that he is crazy and then after the game today mark davis was like yeah we're excited about what he's done over the course of the last month or so i i have a feeling the raiders are going to screw this up and they're going to go out there and hire probably a retread coach probably someone who's been fired maybe over under 1.5 times before um and they're going to screw it up, and it's going to be sad, and everyone's going to say, well, we had our coach, and you let him get away again. Yeah, which would be very stupid.
Yep. Very, very, very, very, very, very stupid.
But, yeah, Antonio Pierce should be the head coach. Broncos have to – Broncos, I actually think, like, because Sean Payton is restless, and they've taken shots, they've fucked up.
I wouldn't be shocked if the Broncos, I actually think, because Sean Payton is restless, and they've taken shots, they've fucked up. I wouldn't be shocked at the Broncos, because I don't think they have to give their pick to the Seahawks anymore, right? I believe they own their pick.
No, no, I think that they're done with that. They don't do protected picks.
I think it was a first the year before and a first last year. Tankathon has them picking 12.
Right. So I could see the Broncos just being like, fuck it, we got to get Caleb Williams.
Trade up. Just trading a bunch of shit.
That might be your bitch. Yeah, they might be our bitch.
All right, Seahawks, Cardinals. Cardinals, they were scrappy to the bitter end.
Kyler Murray, that's the one thing about the Cardinals. The Cardinals don't need a Kyler Murray's fun James Conner is so much fun to watch he runs so upright him and Pacheco he's so tall yeah well he also stands out compared to every other skill position player that yeah the Cardinals have yeah but yeah the um the Seahawks they're a team that's gonna have a shitload of questions because they feels like they have to figure out the quarterback position it.
It feels like they also have to maybe like Pete Carroll, I don't I wouldn't get rid of Pete Carroll, but he's 72 and now you're a couple years like kind of going in the same spot. I don't know.
Couldn't you see them being like, hey Pete, do you want to retire? I don't think they're going to move on from Pete. I don't know what kind of gum Pete Carroll chews, but it keeps him looking 20 years younger than he actually is.
I don't think they're going to move on from Pete Carroll. I think they're going to sit down and be like, Pete Carroll, what is your plan? When are you going to retire? So here's, here's a fun stat that's from Field Yates.
Uh, Geno Smith this year through seven go ahead, touchdown passes in the fourth quarter and overtime the most by any player in a single season in NFL history. Yeah.
He led the league in game winning, uh. Now, I don't want to be a stickler here, but in order to set that record, your team also has to fall behind in a game.
Correct. To set it.
Okay, just wanted to make sure that we're looking at both sides of that. Correct.
All right, and last. Hank's trending right now.
Oh, yeah. Let's see what they're saying.
Oh. Do it, Hank.
Go. Hank, go to Dallas.
Hank, you should go. Because everyone's saying, Hank, Hank, Hank.
Hank, Hank, Hank. You should do it, Hank.
I think Hank should go this week. Max doesn't want to go to Dallas.
I'm down to go, though. You should go this week.
But the podcast, I guess the people will vote for you to go. we got a bunch of dogs that ride.
We do. We do have some dogs.
We have some dogs. Our listeners are dogs that were like, yeah, our boy Hank, he's got to go to Dallas.
We could Zoom him in. Yeah, we could Zoom you in.
Actually, you know what? Go to Dallas. Fuck it.
For real? Yeah. Go to Dallas.
We'll Zoom you in. As long as you can figure out how to Zoom properly in on Sunday night.
He's got a mic. Yeah.
You take a mic. Actually take a mic this time.
Hank, fun fact. Christmas.
We were always planning on me and PFT just doing solo pods, but I did hit him up and he was like, I didn't bring a mic. Yeah.
If you can find a place to stay, you can go. All right.
Fine. Okay.
done. Hank's going to Dallas.
But we also need someone to go with you to videotape? Or are you going to videotape? I need a POV. Is this a work trip or a personal trip? Videotape what? Oh, come on.
Everything. Just like I can – we'll talk offline.
Okay, all right, all right. Also from field Yates timeline, the feels like temperature for Saturday night and Kansas city is going to be negative 10.
Yeah. Boys winter's coming.
Yeah. We got this.
I saw this like a scary graphic that was like this. Basically Canada has just been holding all the cold air and they're about to release it on us.
Polar vortex. Yeah.
They're about to just be like, here's all the cold, suckers. That's fucked up.
Yeah, I was like, what the hell is this? All the fucking cold air? I thought they had all those fires. Yeah, they're just going to give us all the cold air next week, the end of next week.
God damn it, Canada. Good thing we work in recess.
Sorry. That's one nice thing.
It's like, all right, I can take a cold air. I'll just play fucking hoops with the boys.
Okay, last game, Chiefs, Chargers, Blaine Gabbert. Thatbert that's all i got yeah i didn't really watch much of this game at all uh no one wanted to win this game nope so congratulations to the team that did which was the chiefs it was the chiefs by a point i'm actually happy the chiefs won because uh it just will look better on the graphic oh for their overall record yeah when when we're watching the matchups in the playoffs, you know? Mm-hmm.
I think 10 wins. They got 10 wins? They got to 11.
11, so it does look like they're – if they only had 10 wins, it would look wrong that they had a home playoff game. Correct.
Yeah. So I was like, oh, cool.
They got 11 wins. Good.
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PFT, who's going to win the national title?

Let's do a little quick preview.

I think Michigan is.

Only because Jim Harbaugh is biohacking.

He's figured out how to hack sleep.

Oh.

I don't know if you saw this quote today.

No.

But they were asking about getting a good night's sleep before the game for him and his players.

He said, two nights before is the sleep that you play on on i have no scientific evidence to present to you on that i just know when i played and sometimes when i coached sometimes the night before the game i didn't really sleep great so i've convinced myself that if i get a good night sleep the night before the night before a game it's a great night of sleep that actually is true is it i think so so maybe marathon runners do this because i i've seen some people in the distance running community be like he's actually not wrong about this yeah and and um his brother did biohacking this year the ravens hired like a sleep analyst for their london trip okay so i think the harbaugh's are into this now i like it listen it's kind of actually late for them because i feel like any competitive advantage they'll take i think that biohacking is one thing i i tweeted this out but i stand by it i would pay probably ten thousand dollars for a two-day seminar by jim harbaugh on biohacking yeah the different ways that he's figured to make your body milk yeah yeah milk and not eating chickens but then later on yes eating chickens because you bought chickens and they're industrious i so i unfortunately do think that michigan's gonna win which i will immediately spin and say the big 10's back but the one thing that i keep going back to is michigan has looked great all year they have not played a good quarterback all year like if you actually look their schedule, Michael Penix is so much better than every quarterback they've played. And, you know, Aller for Penn State, Kyle McCord.
You could actually make the argument that probably the best quarterback they've played is to his younger brother at Maryland. So, like, they just haven't – like, Jalen Millrow's a good football player, but he's not Michael Penix in terms of passing the ball.
So that part is still like it's one of those cool wrinkles in college football where you can go a whole season playing in your division or in your conference, and now you're playing a quarterback. They have not seen a quarterback like Michael Penix.
Yeah, also Michigan's defense, their defensive backs are really good, though. No, they are, but again, they haven't played.
But are they good because they haven't played a good quarterback? Right. I think that their defensive backs are really good though no they are but so again they haven't played but are they good because right haven't played a good quarterback right i think that their defensive backs are definitely better than texas's defense backs agree way time way better and again i think michigan's defense very very good i'm just saying that's a fun question mark going into this game that michael pennix is different than every other quarterback they face because he's really really good and playing really really good football uh the craziest stat is Michael Benix has been sacked.
He's played 14 games. He's been sacked 12 times.
Yeah, it's wild. Their offensive line is very, very good, and he does a good job of getting rid of the ball.
I do think Michigan's defense is, their edge rushers are better than Texas because you saw that in that Texas game. It felt like Texas was getting a lot of pressure up the middle, but they weren't getting home on the edge.
So I don't know. It's a very awesome game because it's also like a style.
Who can get the game to play their style? Because if Michigan can just ground and pound and control the clock, they'll win in an ugly way and it will work, and Washington will just be behind all game, like trying to make up ground and get the ball back um but if Washington can somehow get them into the like TCU game last year yeah a shootout then Washington's like as live as live could be okay so what has to happen in order for people to say to Michigan you guys are a good team without the cheating I mean if it hasn't happened yet yeah if they win this national title you can't you can't take anything away can't take it away no because they stopped cheating in what before the penn state game yeah before the purdue game i believe that's when they stopped being allowed to cheat correct um and it would also just be great theater to have harbaugh win a national championship yeah and just to just unload on everybody correct i'm i will have him back on the show i love love Jim Harbaugh. I wish he was the coach of the Bears.

And if he wins, he's probably going to go to the NFL.

Yeah, and I think he's probably going to go to the Chargers.

Most likely.

And I wish it was the Bears instead.

Maybe the Commanders. Maybe the Commanders.

So what's your official pick? I'm taking the over, by the way.

And I would lean...

I don't have an official pick. I'm leaning

towards betting Washington in the points. Yeah.
But I think Michigan win yeah what do you guys got anything I have a future on Washington so not for a lot but I'm gonna ride with them when did you do that a couple weeks ago oh before the Pac-12 championship game got it it. I also want Spencer to be happy.

Yeah.

He's going to the game.

Spencer Hall.

This is actually a great year if you're a Washington fan.

Yeah.

It's just incredible.

You probably never thought that playing for a national championship

at this time, in this era, would be possible.

Yeah.

And now everything turned around for you, and it's just been magical.

I know a lot of Washington fans, and I like their mascot. I like Dubs.
He's a very good dog. They had him dressed in the sunglasses after the game.
My heart is putting me on Washington, but my testicles are saying Michigan. Yeah.
I wonder, too, if Dylan Johnson's going to play because he said he's going to play. The running back who got hurt in the last play against Texas, he's very good at blocking, so that will be a very big loss for them if he doesn't play.
He said he's going to play, though, but he said the injury wasn't as bad, but he also couldn't walk off the field. Yeah.
So maybe he's just gutting it out. Blake Corham's going to score maybe twice.
That's my other thing. I think it's like his – It's like minus 250.
It's crazy, but if you want to parlay it with something, he's going to score. It's like McCaffrey levels.
He's going to score a touchdown. Okay.
Do you guys have any picks? Do you have a pick? 31-27 Michigan. Oh, so that would be Washington covering the spread.
Also because of the Ravens earning a bye week, John Harbaugh is going to the game. Yeah, Yeah.
Along with other Ravens members. Yeah.
Love that.

Max?

I love Washington.

So that's Michigan.

Congratulations.

Hail to them.

I have.

Yeah.

Can we put that on the Max soundboard, please?

I have a large wager on Washington.

Oh, man.

And one now is definitely Michigan.

Oh, man.

Okay.

Well, we'll stream it so everyone can tune into the stream.

All right.

Let's finish up the show.

The lines have moved again. Kansas City minus three and a half.
Yeah, that thing's firing up. The Bills are up to nine and a half point favorites.
So we were right. We were right.
So we were right. We were so right.
Yep. We know ball.
We absolutely know ball. I think that, yeah, I think that, I think the buyback will probably be like four and a half, four for the Dolphins.
So I was a little off on that. But the Bills are going to be nine and a half, ten point favorites by kickoff.
Yep. Okay, who's back of the week, Hank? Who's back of the week is Max Homa.
Oh. Yeah.
Sorry, I had it pulled up, but then I saw I was searching. I can say it right now, Hank.
The trending. He's my who's back, too.
Okay. We do this too We do this a lot So he hit a drive 477 yards Longest drive on the PGA Tour In the Shotlink era Pretty crazy so that's like ever That's probably the longest drive of all time That's crazy Was it downhill and in the wind? It it.
That is not on this. Wait, was he being sarcastic with his tweet then? Yeah, he was very sarcastic.
I don't think so. I just saw the tweet, so I couldn't tell.
Was Max being sarcastic? Yeah, Max is usually sarcastic. He said...
None of that's on this graph. He's also a very humble guy.
If you look up the longest, like, in years and years and years and years from now, there'll be little kids that look up, you know, up the book, The Longest Drives in the Shotlink Era. And they'll open it up, and on the first page, it will say Max Homa, number one.
477. It's not going to say downhill.
It's not going to say the rollout. That guy must have won a bunch of majors.
It's just going to say Max Homa, top of the list, longest drive. That guy must be a fucking tank.
Yeah, Racket Cup champion. I'm going to say right now, Max is going to win a major this year.

I think so.

I think this is the year.

I'm looking at his timeline, right?

He said it was uphill into the wind with no roll.

Yeah, that's the sarcastic.

That's too loud.

I'm aware.

I'm aware.

Jake lost the double sarcasm.

Yeah.

All right, so Max is the best driver in the world.

Yeah.

Longest driver.

Longest driver.

Powerful.

He's the most powerful man on the PGA Tour.

Tiger Woods could never drive that far without getting into an accident.

Fact.

Okay, good who's back.

Boys.

Yeah.

That was also my who's back.

So I'll just say my other who's back is plane tracking season.

I got my boys working overtime on the coaching search plane tracks.

Very excited to see where all the private jets are going,

figure out the interviews.

It's just a great time.

It's a great time to be me.

Yeah.

I'm pumped up for a fresh start.

Turn the page, baby.

I want a new coach so bad.

Yeah, it's going to be great.

I'm going to get a new coach, probably a new quarterback.

I have a new owner, new name.

We're going to get a new stadium.

I want all those.

The old me is that there's also a possibility we just hired Joe Gibbs again.

That would rule.

Bring him back for the third time.

Steve Spurrier.

Yeah.

No.

No.

No.

The best thing about Steve Spurrier was when he got hired to be the head coach,

he was meeting with draft picks, right?

And he was like, how do you all feel about practicing on Fridays?

And they're like, well, if our coach tells us to practice, we'll practice.

He goes, okay, because we're not going to practice on Fridays here. Fridays, I'm going to go play golf.
So the Redskins just didn't practice on Fridays. It was like at South Carolina when he had a pitching range right next to the practice field, so he could pitch while he's watching the team practice.
Yeah, pretty great. I think he asked every draft pick, do you play golf? Okay, good, because we're going to play on Fridays.
Yeah, yeah. All right, my who's back is the Bass Pro Shop.
Went very viral this weekend. A gentleman jumped into the Bass Pro Shop tank.
And let's just say for all the women out there, I know you're wondering, yes, that he actually was probably above average. That was a man.
That was a man. His penis was camouflaged in Bass Pro Shop.
There shop his car heart everywhere real true a button a button dick it was an innie it a clit dick yeah dick um that was tough i felt bad for for for our boy there i don't know how you can be in the in bass pro shop and not be aroused yeah the picture too of him getting handcuffed and taken away was even worse somehow because like the video of him in the water with the button dick uh you're like oh well that's an illusion we might not be able to see everything and then his penis uh came back out not far but it came back out and they're like oh no that is also going on if you're that guy you have to have well i guess what i respect about him is the fact that he was so comfortable in his own body that he wasn't even trying to fluff up he wasn't trying to like chub it he wasn't trying to move it around maybe pop the head out a little bit that's probably adrenaline it was probably adrenaline he that also might be him like fully engorged too right he maybe he was having a good dick day and he was like, you know what? I've never seen my penis before. The fact that I can see the head of it, I need to take all my clothes off and get on camera.
It might have also been kind of a fight or flight situation. If you jump into water naked, you're like, I don't want any fish to bite my dick, so I'm going to make sure my dick disappears.
Yeah, it could be mistaken for bait. Yeah, so it's gone.
Yeah. Yeah.
I love that guy, though. Yeah, that guy ruled.
That guy ruled. It was like a button on a peacoat.
If a guy's handcuffed and pantsless, it's just a bad, bad look. It sucks.
Yeah. It sucks so bad.
You can't give him a towel. Yeah.
They got shirts right there. They got shorts.
They got pants. Yeah.
Hook them up. Tough luck.
All right. Jake finishes off.
My who's back of the week is Draymond Green. Oh.
He has been reinstated. Great.
After a 12-game suspension that was initially indefinite. And he'll be back in game action soon enough.
I predict that Draymond has learned his lesson. Yeah.
He won't do this again. I think that Drayaymond had a brief mental error a brief moment where he blacked out a little bit a heated gaming moment and he uh he will not be making that mistake again draymond's a new man he was undergoing counseling for several weeks along with holding progress meetings and the parties are expected to continue with regular check-ins i'd like to see even after he returns to action like what kind of conversations of conversations he was having.
I think Draymond Green was like the final limit of, and I'm not, you know, anyone who's going through stuff, getting help is important, but I think he was the final test of like the last guy who could be like, well, it's mental health I'm working on. It's like, well, no, you're just an asshole.
Yeah,'re a jerk like people being like oh well we hope he's okay like no i he's just he's just a dick that that being said his reaction and how he's just like throwing punches anytime he's minorly inconvenienced in a professional basketball game there probably is something that he needs to work on yeah of course there's definitely like a rage issue when you read out like that and you just decide to start swinging wildly at people but he was the one guy who like when people are like well you know he's going through something it's like well he also just could just stop punching people yeah it's him and ja morant yeah how do we get past our issues well stop showing guns on a live stream and then stop punching people he uh someone wrote a deep dive i gotta fucking find it because it'll be very funny on here. But they were like, Draymond Green has a type and he only punches like euros.
Yeah. He's only punching euros.
So all the euros. Jordan Poole.
Yeah, Jordan Poole in practice. Oh, yeah, Jordan Poole.
That's true. Yeah, yeah.
But that was practice. Practice? And also Jordan Poole kind of egged him on.
He was literally practicing to punch a euro. Jordan Poole is plus minus.
What's the lowest in the league it's hilarious yeah minus 250 he's the best for him he's never seen a shot he couldn't hit yeah they asked they asked steve kerr about it when they when the wizards play the warriors he's like he's a success story look how much money he's made yeah jordan jordan pool is is such a detriment to have on your team that steve kerr, yeah, Draymond kind of isn't in the right way to punch you. I empathize with that.
Yeah. Okay.
Good show, boys. We got playoff football to talk about all week.
We'll have some good guests to break it down. We'll obviously talk about the national championship on Wednesday.
Let's finish off with some numbers. 40.
18. 71.
3. 20.
99, pug. Love it, pug.
Also, if you're watching on YouTube, we have a new winner's circle. Shane's got five.
Check out pictures of Shane, you went five? Our winners. It's me and Hank.
Fifth pick. Oh, fifth pick.
Alright, I'm going 71. And Bacay, you still have an open invite to join the winner's circle.
Oh, crybaby Max. Oh, by the way, congrats to Max for not losing the opening act for Vegas.
Memes will be doing the opening act, which I'm a winner. So wait, Max, you finished in what place? Couldn't have picked two worse combinations.
I really don't know what to expect from Memes. Mem memes keep saying I don't have to stand up Definitely offense to myself But So memes is gonna do I don't know You might have like A powerpoint presentation Of memes Of memes Various memes Yeah Memes through You know what you should do You should teach a history lesson Using like just memes Throughout history I actually said that Max Outside right before History of memes History of memes Yeah I like that.
Also, Max cheated because he took the over in the Ravens-Steelers and then complained about it to a point where it's the under. You did have the over, right? I didn't.
Oh, the graphic said you had the over. Also, that extra holiday pick that Hank wanted kind of fucked me.
Oh. Yeah, it would have been Max.
It was the holidays. Oh, damn.
Damn. Damn.
I saw Max say. It was the holidays.
Max, there was an incorrect graphic, and we just, like, on the text chain, just basically just got under Max's skin for, like, an hour on Saturday. And I walked in this morning, and I was like, do you...
Is there ever a point of you where you're like, I know what they're doing, I can just not pay attention? He's like, yeah. I can't help myself.
Yeah. You guys are very good at getting under my skin, and I know that you're doing it, but I still have to fight back.
What is that picture, Jake? Right here? Yeah. It's all of my scorgamis in a collage.
Oh, my God. I also printed out individuals behind me.
Oh, my God. I did a CVS run.
Got the lottery ball winners by the team. That's so much.
I didn't even notice it until right now. Yeah.
You doubled up. Subscribe to YouTube.
What's your favorite Scorigami, Jake? The next one. Yeah.
Oh, wait. You have one framed? Yeah, this is framed.
No, he has all the pictures on the wall and all the pictures in the collage on the desk. So you've got Scorigami.
So perfectly, Jake. I'm happy for.
I think. Everywhere.
It has to be the 70 to 20 for the Dolphins.

Yeah.

So you made that yourself.

Oh, yeah.

I made the collage.

Did you gift it to yourself?

Did you wrap it?

No, I just hung it up for AWS to watch on YouTube.

You should have wrapped it and then unwrapped it.

I'm like, ooh, look at this.

Someone got me all my score agamis.

All right.

Everyone's got their numbers in?

Yep.

Say them again real quick.

71.

20.

3.

18.

99 pug.

Thank you. Scorigamis.
All right. Everyone's got their numbers in? Yep.
Say them again real quick. 71.

20.

3.

18.

99 pug.

30.

I thought that was 20.

30.

I thought it was 20.

See everyone on Wednesday.

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