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On today's Pardon My Take, we have Andrew Whitworth and Ryan Fitzpatrick in studio. We're going to talk week 11 picks in preview.
We also are going to talk about the end of the Bengals season, Thursday night football, the first one that we were very excited for, and it was a bummer. So we got a lot of show, though.
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It's Pardon Mike T, the number one spot podcast on the charts and in your heart. My take today is Friday, November 17th, and the Bengals season is over.
That was a bummer. It was a bummer.
On Drone Thursday, nonetheless. Oh, my God.
The pageantry was incredible from the. I thought we had Obama remote controlling an army of drones.
I think we had two that crashed. Yeah, there was two drone delays.
Mark Andrews went out. Lamar Jackson got his ankle rolled up on.
And then Joe Burrow looks to be out for a very long time. It's a UCL injury.
Couldn't grip the football. Just the biggest bummer.
Like, I sat there and I was like, this, we've dealt with so many quarterback injuries this year. And the Bengals have no margin for error because of the way they started their season.
And now it looks like we will not get the Bengals or Joe Burrow, more importantly, Joe Burrow, in the playoffs

and get to see what they could do.

It's a complete and utter bummer.

Yeah, it's a huge night for as a blank fan.

I'm seeing a lot of as a Ravens fan,

I'm sorry to see what's happened to Joe Burrow.

As an avid Steelers fan,

I'm sorry to see what happened to Joe Burrow.

Just support pouring out from across the league.

It's touching to see that. Yes, yes.
Actually, as we were taping this, Jake Browning did score a touchdown. Hmm.
Yeah. Jake Browning, the future.
And unfortunately for the Bengals, RG3 has already committed himself to trying out for the Browns if they'll have him. Yeah.
So he put himself, his name in the hat for that. Although there was a picture of Joe Flacco on an airplane going up to cleveland how what a story that would be huh if joe flacco came in handed the ball off for 90 of the time through 12 passes a game and the browns won the super bowl i think that's what i'm rooting for now yes uh it would be incredible but yeah we have to we have to come to grips with no joe burrow probably for a long time i it does feel he's going to be out for a while.
Like, the body language, he was pissed. I think they showed him on the sideline coming out of the half talking to Sam Hubbard.
He was like, can you go? And he's like, nope. And he had a mysterious wrist brace on that the Bengals social media team accidentally tweeted out.
Chris Long did a great job he actually found the play from last week uh play two he got squished uh by a lineman and so Chris was all on top of that found it and then so we he might have had a pre-existing injury to that hand he re-injured it or injured injured it further. And then we got our favorite guy, Mike Florio, who will be on the show on Tuesday.
We figured Thanksgiving, got to have your crazy uncle that you don't really agree with but you love anyway. So Florio will be on the show next week.
But Florio said, meanwhile, the NFL injury reporting system is a joke. As evidenced by Burroughs, wrist injury being hidden.
The joke will be on the NFL when Congress calls a hearing or prosecutor convenes a grand jury. Yep.
I would love to see that. I love it when Mike really sinks his teeth into a story and thinks way, way outside the box.
And listen, if Congress got their act together and brought Roger Goodell under testimony and just grilled him about the injury injury reporting process i actually think that would have bipartisan support yeah i think everyone can get behind that there's like there's only a few common enemies that we have left in america there's the ncaa there's roger goodell we used to have osama bin laden but uh the events the last couple days i'm not so sure about it anymore yeah but yeah if you want to get people behind you just bring roger goodell up and make him testify under oath yes i mean you said chris long was the one that found that chris long found it chris long chris long like tape study chris long chris long went he saw the the picture of joe burrow that was deleted and he went back to the texans game and he found it play two in the texans. He got smushed in a bang-bang play with his offensive lineman and you can see Joe Burrow shaking the hand on play two.
Chris Long, your number one source for right-wing news. Yeah, he got it.
Dude, he did the work. So, yeah, as for the Ravens, so Joe Burrow doesn't play defense.
The Bengals' defense have their own issues. I know the game flow changes when Joe Burrow's not in the game, but the Ravens' offense looked awesome.
Yeah, they look really good. And a banged-up Lamar.
We're doing it. Lamar went down a couple times where it looked like old Lamar would have been able to keep running.
So I don't think he's going to be 100% healthy. He was protecting himself, it felt like, but he was throwing the ball around the yard odell beckham looks good 116 yards for him they were running the ball they had the the ravens are like all the way back where they now have many backs who can get you yards yeah and they said you know keaton mitchell uh gus edwards and and lamar jackson all running i think did justice hill score a touchdown no he didn't this might He came in for a play.
I don't know if he scored a touchdown. You remember a couple years ago when every Raven got hurt? I know it happens every year.
Yes. But a couple years ago, it was like weeks one and two were just crazy for him.
At the time, towards the end of the season, we were like, holy shit, are the Ravens actually just geniuses by getting all their injuries out of the way early? Best free agency signings is getting a guy back from the IR.

So are the Ravens going to be peaking at exactly the right time?

We'll see what happens with Mark Andrews.

Hopefully that's not a long-term issue because he is very important to their offense.

Like that first drive, they marched right down the field.

Yeah.

Why do you think Mark Andrews doesn't necessarily get as much credit as like a Travis Kelsey?

Because Travis Kelsey is better?

Yeah, that's probably true.

But Mark Andrews is pretty damn good.

He is very good.

I think he's underrated, actually.

I don't think I think he's underrated actually I would I would agree too I also didn't realize until like a few weeks ago that he's a diabetic and has to get his insulin tested every time he comes off the field are you serious like on the sidelines yes he there was a I think it was maybe inside the NFL he was mic'd up every time he comes comes off, he has to get his test to see where his insulin levels are. That's great.

Crazy.

So, yeah, the Ravens look good, though.

The Ravens look good.

And I'm just bummed about Joe Burrow.

Yeah, it sucks.

It sucks a lot.

For a fan of football, it's just bad.

It's bad because you want to see, like, the game is more fun when Joe Burrow is playing because he's awesome.

Yeah.

And now the maybe we'll get to when we do our weekend preview, we got an all time memes desperation spin zone. But memes, this maybe there's a spot open.
You got to just jump like six teams. Maybe there's a spot open.
Got to win Sunday. Got to win Sunday.
We'll get to that. All right.
Let's do it. Let's get to all of our picks and preview.
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You heard us talk about it. But let's get to it.
Steelers at Browns. Deshaun Watson out for the year.
DTR starting, who is not good. I know that P.J.
Walker's also not good, and I guess I could see the reasoning of like, hey, you want to see what you got with the young guy? but DTR's not good i know that pj walker's also not good and i guess i could see the reasoning of like hey you want to see what you got with the young guy but dtr's not good he's fun he's definitely fun in a bad way if you're a browns fan like he throws the ball backwards but um i think first things first we should we should talk about the injury to deshaun watson because this sounds like he's the toughest guy on planet earth according to his agent that texted tom palisaro so um according to old tp he said watson wanted to be shot up in an attempt to play through his shoulder and ankle injuries he also reported that watson received multiple medical opinions and they told him if he took a hit to the same spot his shoulder could fall apart i love it his shoulder could disintegrate his shoulder could explode it's broken his body would be broken it's like uh juju's knee right yeah it could it could just disintegrate at any given time which by the way that we're still waiting it could happen at any time anytime that's the thing about it but with the uh with the shoulder he's got like a fracture where it pops back in like at the very tip of the upper arm or whatever that thing's called. So it sounds to me like it's an injury that he's had.
I know he says it's a new one, but you get that injury when your shoulder pops out and then it pops back in, which is exactly how he hurt his shoulder previously. It also sounds like Deshaun Watson is going to be in the running for worst contracts of all time.
Yeah. $100 million guaranteed has not been able to stay on the field.
The Browns have a roster that is Super Bowl worthy and now he's missing the rest of the year and they're going to be having to fend off the AFC North with DTR or PJ Walker. Yeah.
I have an idea for their offense because the running game's good. The defense is like one of the best that we've ever seen.
but as far as passing the ball, what if they just put Miles Garrett in at tight end or receiver? David Njok is pretty damn good. But wait, here's the twist to it.
You throw a jump ball, you let the safety intercept it, and then Miles Garrett comes down and hits the safety as hard as he can. Positive yards.
Positive yards every time. Yeah, This game is, I don't know what to think about it because I feel like the Steelers, like they can't really move the ball, especially against a good Browns defense.
The Browns are not going to be able to move the ball with DTR. They're going to load up the box.
It's going to be ugly. It is one of the lowest totals we've had in the last 10 years.
The only one lower was actually the grapple game, Saints-Browns. So right now I think it's sitting at 33, which is crazy for an NFL game.
That is wild. And I think if you put a gun on my head and was like, which side are you going to pick? It would be the under.
You can't take the over in this game. No, you can't.
I probably will, just as a personal challenge, but you can't. You can't.
Like a normal person would not. You should not.
You should not. I cannot endorse that.
32 and a half. It's 32 and a half right now.
You know what? The Steelers are Nate Diaz. Yeah.
They just get the shit kicked out of them for like three quarters, and they get stronger as they get worse. Yeah, they just want to be down going into the fourth quarter by one score, and they're in perfect spot.
Give them a shot. Excuse me.
I also have a really sad stat for the browns uh in the last decade this is the 55th time they're starting a backup quarterback that is very sad and it's even sadder than that because for two straight years baker mayfield made every start yep so it's really like eight years and 55 times they've had a backup uh not their week one starter start a game game. That's pretty remarkable.
Do you think people are coming around to the take that Baker Mayfield was the best thing that's ever happened to the Browns and they should never have let him go? So Browns fans, I think, are thinking that. But more than that, and this is now, I think, there's multiple teams who are having the same thought.
Giants, Jets, Browns. Browns have a real case for it.
Why did they get rid of Josh Dobbs? Yeah. There are so many teams right now being like, Josh Dobbs could fix all of our problems.
He could. If the Jets had Josh Dobbs, they would be a playoff team.
I would say with Josh Dobbs right now, the Browns would have more wins than they do with Deshaun Watson playing. Yeah, and they had him on the roster, I think, all the way up until August, right? Yep.
So Josh Dobbs is basically the guy that everyone looks to and is like, he could solve everything. Yep.
You see they dusted off the old, what if Tom Brady comes back, take? For the Browns? For the Browns, yeah. You think Tom Brady would want to live in Cleveland, Hank? No.
Why not? I mean, it's been a while since he's played. I actually think that if LeBron played quarterback for the Browns, they would be better.
Yeah, they just run wildcat. Yeah.
DTR. Sorry, I have a cough I can't get rid of.
It's like a small cough. I'm not sick, but I can't.
It's like you when you get something stuck in your throat cough. I can't get rid of it.
I'm going to try to cough really loud. What are you looking at, Max? There we go.
Yeah, it doesn't always feel great. No, I ate a dumpling a minute ago, and it's fucking stuck in my throat.
Ain't no fun when the rabbit's got the gun. Yeah, that's fair.
That's fair. That's fair.
Okay. Josh Dobbs would fix everything.
What kind of dumpling did you eat? Donnie made him. Damn, that sounds good.
We're getting Chinese in a minute anyway. Uber Eats.
Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. So this game's going to stink, but I'm going to love it.
I think it's going to stink in a very Steelers way. Yeah.
And a Browns way. This should actually be a game where the Steelers should outgain the Browns.
They should on paper. Because the Steelers have kind of fucked themselves because their defense is so good that they usually don't have a full field to work with, even if they go kick a field goal.
Right. So now they can put together a drive from their own maybe 35-yard line and just go kick a field goal that's positive yards every single time.
Yeah. As opposed to just getting the ball on the 35-yard line, kicking from right there.
This is one of those games that if someone has 10 points, it's going to feel like an insurmountable lead. It is.
If you're drunk enough, the Steelers are going to look like Iowa this weekend. Yeah.
And the Browns will probably look like Nebraska. Yeah.
Shout out to Danny Smith. Danny Smith, all-time football guy, special teams coach of the Steelers.
You remember on the last play, they intercepted it, ran to the sidelines. Yes.
And a coach fell over. Yeah, he got just absolutely bundled.
Got destroyed. Yeah.
That was Danny Smith. Danny Smith, you might recognize, he's the shorter guy who's always chewing like twice the amount of gum that Pete Carroll is.
All-time gum guy. So he tore every muscle in his rotator cuff.
Oh, my God. Popped back up.
He's staying on the sidelines. You can't get that guy.
And Deshaun isn't playing? And Deshaun's not playing. Danny Smith's shoulder could fall apart at any given moment.
And Deshaun's not playing. And Deshaun's not playing.

Jake, your nerd nugget.

Pittsburgh's 28 victories in one score game since the start of the 2020 season

are tied for the most in the NFL.

Also, it's a shame that PJ Walker's not playing because he tweeted,

can't wait to meet you, baby girl.

Oh.

Oh, so he's going to get him still because he's the backup.

They might.

Odds are going to be juicy.

Yeah.

So something to keep an eye on if he plays the rest of the season.

Okay.

That's a good wait.

Now is the baby born?

I don't know.

I think that's a pregnancy announcement.

Oh, he's just bragging he had sex.

Yeah.

They might not even know that they're pregnant.

Yeah.

Can't wait to meet my daughter.

The water broke and he tweeted it.

I don't think you tweet when the water breaks.

Oh. No.
Okay. So maybe he's going to be a dad.
Yeah. That's like a nerve-wracking time.
We're like, hope the baby comes out okay. Yeah.
Not like, let me take to Twitter and be like, can't wait to meet you in like two hours if everything goes okay. That's fair.
Yeah. All right.
Raiders and Dolphins. Threw this on there.
Antonio Pierce got the Raiders 2-0 in his interim head coaching. They did beat Tommy DeVito and Zach Wilson.
And now we have Miami off a bye. So what you're saying is the Raiders might be frauds.
The Raiders are not good. I am...
So I'm ready, I think, and this is just a theory. I think I'm ready to take Miami off the fraud list.
They won't do it this week. but I'm ready I think and I it is just a theory I think I'm ready to take Miami off the fraud list they won't do it this week but I I'm gearing up for them to be off the fraud list because I'm thinking that their defense is going to start playing really well Vic Fangio you know a couple months under the belt Jalen Ramsey back guys healthy I've I'm now on take Miami off fraud watch fraud watch interesting so what do they have to do against the raiders though because they got to beat the raiders by 21 plus and they have to if they hold the raiders to under 10 points yeah they they i looked at their schedule they have the jets on on black friday which i would remind miami fans that i said that the jets would beat the Dolphins at that time.
I no longer think that. And then they have Christmas Eve.

They play the Cowboys. And then I think the week 17, they play the Ravens.
So those are their last two chances to fully get off broad watch. But I'm itching to get them off broad watch.
I think they're going to start turning the defense around, and the defense is going to start playing really well. And with that offense, I'm ready.
I'm ready. I'm feeling like I'm going to push the button and say no longer fraud.
I read an article. It was basically a long profile of Mike McDaniel.
And God damn, do I love that guy. He just seems like the best dude ever.
And did you see he went up to the podium the other day, and they were talking about how it was raining. And one of the journalists said, with all this rain that we're getting, and he's like, oh, it's raining? How fortuitous for Earth.
Ooh. He's like Mitch Hedberg, if you gave him a head coach.
Little one-liners? Little one-liners here and there. Big news for the Dolphins, though.
Tua got his hair did. He did.
He looks like fucking Drake. Yes.
Per our colleague Nicky Smokes on Twitter, our QB is fucking Drake yeah huge news to a huge news uh uh McDaniels McDaniel this is confusing I don't care I'm glad people say that I don't care I'm glad that the Raiders fired McDaniel yeah I'll say whatever I want to say McDaniel McDaniels um he also there was a reporter asked about A-Chain and he was like how much money you got in fantasy? And just flipped it on him. I think he's going to play, though.
Yeah. And another reason to maybe get them off fraud watch.
I'm feeling it. I'm feeling it.
The Raiders are not good. But they're 2-0 under the new version of the Raiders.
The new look Raiders. Against Tommy DeVito and Zach Wilson.
Yes, true. The new look Raiders.
Antonio Pierce is the, he's the only Antonio to ever coach in the NFL. Oh.
How about So Antonio's are 1,000% in winning percentage. Antonio's stand up.
You'll get a lot of Antonio's. You don't.
It's a powerful name. It's Antonio or Anthony, yeah.
Jake, your nerd nugget. This is a good one.
Oh, let us be the judge. Okay.
Since the start of last season, the Dolphins are 6-0 and have averaged 41 points per game with Kevin Harlan on the call. Oh.
Tuatunga-Vailoa has thrown 20 touchdown passes, averaging 332 yards per game, and he returns to the booth in Miami this week. I thought they never won with Kevin Harlan.
That was Frank's thought. They put up 70.
They put up points. It doesn't make sense at all.
Frank told me otherwise. Dolphins might be good.
They might be off fraud watch. Yeah, Kevin Harlan, 53rd man.
Yeah. 54th man.
Here's a stinky game. Giants and Commanders.
Yeah, very stinky. Tommy DeVito.
We get to watch Tommy DeVito again. I've become accustomed to the insult graphic that goes around about the former NFL coaches or the former Washington coaches that are now head coaches in the NFL, where you have LaFleur, McVay, McDaniel now, Kyle Shanahan, and then now people are saying that the coordinator Sloic from the Texans is going to be on that list.
I don't know what happened to make it go re-viral again, but now it's everywhere. Every major news publication is talking about it.
Yeah, I get it. You know what? Our head coach was Mike Shanahan.
You think they were going to fire Mike Shanahan and then promote Kyle Shanahan to be the head coach? That wasn't going to happen, but I have to deal with more of this bullshit, which is fine. Well, yeah, I was going to say the one person you can't, I can't give you sympathy because literally every, I think the CBS sports account lives like their entire social media plan is to insult the Bears.
Yeah, that is true. They do the 4,000 yard passer.
They do the receivers. They do everything.
Yeah, but I don't know who started it this week, but it came out of nowhere. It's usually CBS sports.
Yeah, so like sports centers on it, ESPNs all. It's weird that they're taking this week to do it, but at least we get Tommy DeVito this weekend.
He's going to be fun to watch. Tommy DeVito.
Yeah. Good job, Tommy.
Yeah. There was a...
I don't really have anything to say about Tommy DeVito other than I'm rooting for him, I think. So they did a profile on him and they asked him what his favorite food was.
What do you think Tommy DeVito's favorite food is? Chicken parm. It's chicken parm.
Yeah, it's chicken parm. Chicken parm with vodka sauce.
Yeah. His hidden talent.
What do you think tommy devito's favorite food is it's chicken it's chicken parm yeah it's chicken chicken parm with vodka sauce yeah uh his hidden talent what do you think is hidden talented uh that's racist throwing no it's not not throwing anything yeah um no it's making art that's what you say if you're really good at art well if you watch a tommy devito listen uh beauty's in the eye of the beholder a tommy devito quarterback could be considered art. That's true.
Favorite movies. What do you think his favorite movies are? Goodfellas.
No, no. Too Fast, Too Furious and Bad Boys.
Actually, great taste from Tommy DeVito. Okay.
Fantastic taste. And if he gets three dinner guests, who do you think he'd want to invite? James Gandolfini.
Yeah no it's jeff bezos elon musk al capone and floyd mayweather oh money money money money love that it's all about the money also i think the commander's gonna win this game i do think there's the ability this game could be just some fuck shit happening like the last one where the commanders the giants didn't score for the last 38 minutes of the game and won 14 to 7 yeah but somehow the giants game that game i bring it up because that might have been the tipping point for him he had he took six sacks in that game since then the last three games he had seven total so maybe that was the game that he's like hey i should stop doing this yeah he's got a lot better yeah and staying in the pocket just the right amount of time and get rid of the ball um but i'm not i'm by no means confident i think the commanders are nine and a half ten point favorites right right that they should not be nine and a half point favorites to anybody in the yeah i don't care who's playing quarterback let me see it's it's nine right now nine right now okay well it's coming yeah so it's trending in the correct direction i believe i'm i'm not confident in this game like anybody either one of these two teams could win. I think we're going to win.
Could be some fuck shit. But I would not be shocked if the Giants ended up winning.
Yes. Nerd Nugget.
First off, I'd like to correct myself. That stat with Kevin Harlan was with two a starting.
Okay. You were wrong.
That was the concussion game where the guy made fun of me. Dolphins, Jets.
Oh, concussion fingers. Yeah.
That was funny when that guy did that no it wasn't yeah it was so that's the one game with kevin harland the last year they've lost but that doesn't count with the two stats anyways commander's quarterback sam howell has thrown for 2,952 yards so far this season the most by a washington quarterback through 11 career games more than 500 yards roughly. Then second place on that list, Robert Griffin III.

Sam Howell.

By far the best 11-game quarterback in Washington history.

I might have just jumped past the whole,

is he the guy conversation?

I'm ready to ask if he's elite.

Yeah.

As many insult graphics have been going around,

there's a lot of complimentary graphics going around about Sam Howell. Elite.
He's first in big-time throws. Do you know what a big-time throw is? Elite, yeah.
It's a big-time throw. I actually throw it big time.
When you throw it big time. Yeah, I think it's over 20 yards.
I don't know what the actual definition is. 20 yards.
But goddamn, when pro football focus says he's first in big-time throws, I'm like, that's a great stat. It's a big-time throw.
Okay. Next up, Chargers and Packers.
I hate this game so much because the Packers are bad, but the Chargers shouldn't be favored on the road against anyone. Yeah, I was looking at this, and I was like, are we still giving the Chargers credit for being the Chargers? It's crazy.
I know the Chargers are better than the Packers, but if you tell me you have to put your life on the line for the chargers to be able to like maneuver a road game and win by exactly three or more i i couldn't do that no no i was something weird is gonna happen this might be the most lopsided fan to fan ratio of all time do you think there are any chargers fans that are making the trip to green bay for this game probably not i. I think there's...
No, people still like to go to Lambeau.

It's like a cathedral.

Yeah, I think the weirdest fan to fan would have to be Chargers-Panthers.

You know what I mean?

Where it's like, I don't really care about seeing the stadium.

If you're a Chargers fan, you definitely circle the schedule and be like,

this one, let's go take a trip to Lambeau.

Yeah, it's Lambeau, but it's also mid-november it's right before thanksgiving i think there's a lot of stuff adding up against the charges on it i would i would be shocked if there were more than 500 chargers fans that like true chargers fans from out of town that make this trip yeah or like i'm trying to think what other ones maybe chargers vikings you're like cardinals bills yeahills? Yeah. How many Cardinals fans would go to Buffalo if they played in December? I bet you there are a lot of people that are Cardinals fans that are from Buffalo that retired and moved to Arizona, though.
I feel like they'd go to Florida. Yeah.
I don't know. Like East Coast, Florida, and then everything West.
Maybe Chargers, Giants. not a lot of people.
But then you're going to New York City. It's a direct flight.
You got to think of the places that have nothing. You're like, I got to go to this place.
I got to go to this game. Yeah, I wonder what that would be.
Maybe it might be Chargers Commanders.. I think Chargers-Panthers.

Yeah.

Chargers-Panthers feels like who wants to go to – a stadium is even boring.

Yeah, if you're a Chargers fan that's going to this game,

like traveling specifically to Green Bay for this game, let us know.

Hit us up.

Very interested in learning about you.

Yes.

All right, nerd nugget for this game.

Packers quarterback Jordan Love leads the NFL in completions of 30-plus yards

this season with 17.

Matthew Stafford has 16. Sam Howell and Brock Purdy are at behind with 14.
That sounds like a pretty good stat. Okay.
All right. Next up, Bears at Lions.
Justin Fields is back. That's all I got.
That's it? No, I have more. But I have some things that I shouldn't believe in, but I do.
The Bears are not as bad as people think they are. They are the worst teams in the league, which are the Panthers, the Giants, maybe the Patriots, the Cardinals now, the Kylers back, maybe not.
I think the Bears are a step above that. They get lumped in there.
They've actually been playing really good defense. The last five weeks, their run D is ranked one.
Their total yards against is ranked sixth. Their explosive plays against is ranked first.
And their third down percentage is 12th. They're playing good defense.
Justin Fields playing competent offense will be the big question mark. And obviously the Lions much better all over the field but like the Bears aren't as bad as I probably say they are and the media says they are I would agree with that they're just a little bit better than really really bad their defense is good enough to not get totally embarrassed anymore at the start of the season they were bad they were very very bad very very bad and now what they, 3-3 in their last six? 3-3 in their last six.
And this is the part that makes me nervous because I am nervous that if their defense plays well and keeps playing well, that they're going to keep Matt Eberflus. I don't think so.
He's so weird. Have you ever...
I know that we've said a lot of things about Eberflus on this show. He's Dweberflus.
Have we ever talked about just how weird he is? He's just weird looking. He's just a strange guy.
He's a cat guy. They asked him.
Yeah, that's a great way to describe him. That's all you need to know.
He's a cat guy. After the game against the Panthers, they were like, what do you have up your sleeve? Or what do you have up your sleeve? He's like, what do you have up your sleeve? And then he laughed like he was the joker.
He's a weird guy. He also, if they keep Matt Eberflus and then draft a new quarterback, that will be, I think it's 25 years going right now that the Bears have never had a coach quarterback on the same wavelength.
Timeline? Timeline, like bring a new coach, bring a new quarterback, same time. I don't think there's any chance they keep Eberflus.
Their defense is playing well. What if they beat the Lions? I don't think they will, but what if? What if they demote him to defensive coordinator and then bring in a head i'd be fine with that he is i feel like coordinator right now i feel like he'd stay yeah no he is the defensive coordinator and so his defense our defensive coordinator left and no one knows why his i do know why it's very funny i won't say oh come on i'll tell you after okay yeah well shit do you know why the running back guy left that one I do know as well also not as funny both aren't really

I would Okay. Yeah.
Well, shit. Do you know why the running back guy left? That one I do know as well.
Is it funny? Also, not as funny. Okay.
Both aren't really, I wouldn't say either are funny. Uh-huh.
They're funny in like the Bears are a joke of a franchise. The defensive coordinator was using the women's bathroom and refused to stop.
No. Okay.
I'll tell you. That would be funny though.
I was sworn to secrecy. I also like, there was so much weird shit that was said during that that I don't want to say anything publicly because then like what if I'm wrong and then right also in the weird shit like the whole FBI and all that stuff.
Who the fuck knows? On the lion's side, you know Malcolm. I also don't even know.
I just said that to say to sound cool. You got me going.
Yeah. I did that on.
Yeah. I was just like I've been telling people like, i know why you know why and then trying to get them to tell me why but i don't know why it's old trick hank you got me you think i knew yeah yeah that's a good prank yeah he'll do art of the deal um learn it read it rodrigo you remember him from hard knocks yeah middle line back on the Lions.
You know he switched to fullback? No.

So this is what the Lions did.

So they had Cabinda at fullback, and then he got injured,

and then they just took another linebacker because Cabinda was also a linebacker

that got moved.

Yeah.

So now Rodrigo is playing fullback,

and he's like one of the better fullbacks in the league right now.

That guy's a dog.

He's a dog, absolute dog.

Total dog.

Oh, when should we drop the watch list for the lowman trophy?

You want to do that next week? Should we wait until after the season? No, the watch list, though. Oh.
All the watch lists are coming out right now. So, like, the Heisman watch list.
Oh, okay, yeah. Then we can do it next week.
We'll do that for the low man trophy. Yeah.
So, yeah, dipe up. Get your diaper on if you're a Lions fan this weekend.
Yeah. I don't think the Bears are going to win, but their defense is playing better,

and I want to give them credit for being not as bad as the worst.

That's really what it – that's baby steps.

Yeah.

No longer the worst.

Their defense is actually good.

They have a good defense.

I have this dumpling in my throat.

Can you get me another water, Hank?

There's five teams that I would say the Bears could confidently, four teams the Bears could confidently beat. Cardinals.
Panthers. Panthers.
Giants. There's water right there.
There's water right there. Giants.
Commanders. They did beat.
You beat us. Raiders.
Yep. If Joshua Daniels was still the coach, kick the shit out of What about the Rams I have thought on the Rams When we get to it Jake Nerd nugget of the week That's the sound that we're doing Yeah I just made it up That was the It's like the breaking news jingle What instrument was It's just like when you watch TV, it's like...
Is that the sound that they used to make when knights would come into the arena? I don't know. I just thought of it.
I'm mad that I was drinking some water and I couldn't react. You could still react.
I was shocked by it. Yeah.
I've never... I didn't hear it.
Do it again for Hank. Nerd nugget of the week.
You did your own... Hank likes it.
You did your own entrance music. I don't know if Hank likes it.
He nodded along. Hank gave me a look when it happened.
That would suggest strongly otherwise. Hank's headnog was, that's a thing.
I'll have some AWLs who like it. Okay.
And some who hate it. But hey.
Yeah. That's podcasting.
Yeah, that is podcasting. Some people love it.
Some people hate it. That's a fact, Jake.
For the first time since 1979, three pairs of brothers are set to appear in this same NFL game. Amon Ra and Equinemius St.
Brown, Romeo and Julian Aquara, and Penne and Noah Sewell. Whoa.
That is wild, Jake. That is actually.
That's why it's the Nerd Nugget of the Week. It is very cool.
Do you think when they named them Romeo and Julian, that's a little bit weird? Yeah. Well, they expected it to be a girl.
Yeah, for sure. They're like, fuck.
It's like maybe they'll still fall in love. We only had one name.
I was supposed to be Jackie if I was a girl. Jackie? Yeah.
Now we're just going to have to call it Jackie. Jackie Marsh? I'd fuck you.
I kind of like Jackie. Yeah, I'm thinking about it, Jackie Marsh.
I mean, I was a woman in the commercial. Yeah.
Yeah, you look good, too. Yeah, I'd fuck you for I kind of like Jackie.
Yeah, I'm thinking about it. I mean, I was a woman in the commercial.
Yeah. Yeah, you look good.
Yeah, I'd fuck you for sure, Jackie Marsh. Yeah, so I think that's a pretty sick nerd nugget.
Yeah, that is a sick nerd nugget. So three brothers, huh? Same field.
Three brothers. I'm assuming they're all in the active roster, but.
It's like saving private. Yeah, I was going to say, if two of them get injured, we got to get the third set out.
Yeah. Yeah.
Okay, next game, Cowboys at Panthers. All I wrote for this game is maybe take the Panthers, question mark? Yeah, so my only note on this game was we've got a coach taking back play-calling duties last year.
Yes. Because Frank Reich, much like Mike McCarthy used to do, you pass around the play-calling duties like it's the talking stick when it's your turn to speak whenever your job is somewhat in jeopardy.
So he gave the play-calling duties to their offensive coordinator, and then that's not working out so well, so he's taking it back to fix the team. Did you see the picture of Frank Reich, his opening press conference and now today, and he has aged in presidential years? It's so bad.
It's bad. Dog years.
That's David Tepper. And David Tepper also had a very bizarre, I don't know where he was speaking.
He was at the side of maybe the podium or something, talking about the draft day trade and how there was a trade for them to be the second pick with Houston, three-way trade with Chicago. And then he's like, but then we decided to go one.
Essentially saying he's trying to cover up the fact that maybe they didn't want Bryce Young, but the whole thing is confusing. It sounds like he just is an idiot, and Houston was like, wait, they're going to take Bryce Young.
We can just not trade. Yeah, there were all sorts of stories that came out as the draft was happening of why they like Bryce Young.
Again, it's the scallops dinner. They went to dinner, and they were super impressed with this young man.
So then the owner, Tepper, was like, yeah, I want this guy. This is a guy I can build around.
And I'm almost ready to say, like, I know that we've been comparing Stroud to Bryce Young this entire season, and that's going to happen for the rest of their careers no matter what. But I want to see Bryce Young play somewhere fun.
I'm now mad at the Panthers for potential, maybe not the organization as a whole, but like Reich for sure of making this potentially fun guy not as fun to watch. So this is not a fun place for Bryce Young to play, but I had a thought, shower thought, dumb thought.
What if the Bears traded the Panthers number one pick back for Bryce Young and Brian Burns and next year's number one from the Panthers? I like that. So we got Bryce.
The Bears got Bryce Young. I just was thinking about it.
It's kind of like a toddler. You give a toddler a piece of candy and they won't eat it right away because they're like, I want to hold the candy.
I want to see the candy. If I eat the candy, the candy's gone.
That's how I'm feeling about having two number one picks. I don't ever want to not have two number one picks.
I want to have two number one picks for the rest of my life. So I don't want to use both of them.
I want to trade and get another one and just keep kicking the can down the road and having two number one picks. It's so fun having two number one picks.
and you're also seeing another kid holding like black licorice and they're like oh this is so gross but you see another kid holding a piece of candy you're like i want that yeah so i wonder what that candy that's my thoughts on draft picks but yeah uh david tepper he also had the awkward moment where uh a boss that's a piece of shit like makes a joke and everyone has to laugh so he was So he was like, yeah, we're going to do the trade, the three-way trade on Wednesday. And, you know, I'm impatient.
I'm from a world of trading. So I was just texting our GM over and over, like, when's the trade again? And the GM had to, like, laugh.
I'm like, haha, yeah, you did do that. My fucking life sucks.
Yeah, he seems like a miserable guy to work for. Yeah.
Just stroke those brass balls. If you're looking at the mount rushmore of ways that coaches try to save their job mid-season it's got to be one like benching a quarterback right yeah that's got to be the first um taking i think actually passing play calling duties probably i think that's first you think that's number one i think benching quarterback is usually last resort or one of the last resort what about firing your offensive coordinator that is that's definitely one of them that's definitely one on the staff is one of them.
Special teams coach. We've got to change something.
Frank Reich, he should coach from the booth. He should be head coach from the booth.
Just move up there. Or just not even head coach.
Honestly, coaching from a booth would kick ass. Yeah, you could see everything, all 22.
And you get your dip cup right there. You got your Diet Cokes.
Hang out. Be like, oh, can't come down at halftime too long the bathroom's right there yeah way better way better uh okay yeah so i don't know i i think maybe i'll end up taking the cowboys but i i the thought crossed my mind maybe i'd take the panthers this seems like one of those games where the cowboys just beat the shit out of an interior opponent they like to do that all right jake dallas is the only team in the nfl with three 40-point games.
Since head coach Mike McCarthy arrived in 2020, the Cowboys have the most 40-point games among NFL teams with 14 of them. Four points.
Four teams since 2020. Raise the banner.
40 plus. Okay.
That's a lot of Super Bowls, right? A ton. What do you think about the conversation going on out there about that that we should use that same energy every time josh allen throws interception as we did when dak threw interceptions last season uh i would say that we're biased yeah i would say i would agree with that yeah also be my counterpoint also we're biased josh josh's interceptions just look cooler yeah i mean come on yeah they look awesome josh has also won a playoff game has dak won a playoff game? Wait, did he? He cooler.
Yeah. I mean, come on.
Yeah. They look awesome.
Josh has also won a playoff game. Has Dak won a playoff game? Wait, did he? He did.
Yeah, they beat the Bucs. Oh, yeah, they beat the Bucs.
Yeah. Josh has won two playoff games.
How many NFC Championship games has Dak been? Josh has won two playoff games, right? Yes. Yeah.
Also- Josh has won multiple playoff games. Also, Josh has been throwing interceptions since day one.
Yeah. That's kind of his thing.

Right.

Josh, you know Josh is going to throw interceptions.

Yeah.

That's what he does.

You just hope that the cool shit that he does that's not an interception is way cooler than the interceptions are.

Dak doesn't throw interceptions against bad teams.

And then when they play as a good team, he's like, fuck, I'm going to throw an interception.

Yeah.

Like, oh, there you go again.

And when he throws interceptions, the cool shit that he does afterwards isn't cool enough to outweigh the interceptions. Yes, yes.
So that's easy. And we're biased.
We're very biased. All right.
Titans and Jaguars. I think this is a get right for the Jaguars.
I think they're going to kill the Titans. I was looking at it.
The Will Levis, who we believe in, he went up against the Falcons, the Steelers, the Bucs, all bottom of the half in the league in terms of coverage. Now they're going up against the Jaguars, who are actually good in coverage this year.
I think it's going to be a long day for the Titans. I think the Jaguars, this is kind of a who-are-we game.
Like, we got embarrassed by the Niners. Who are we? Trevor's injured.
That news came out this week. Is it me? Yeah, Doug Peterson.
You heard it in the Saints game, right? Yeah, Doug yeah Doug Peterson mentioned it specifically he's like we're limited in what Trevor can do because of his knee huh um so I guess it's worse than we had all thought which would make sense because Trevor hasn't been playing like exceptionally well this season yeah he's been okay and he always the thing about Trevor Lawrence is even if he's injured he just looks like a quarterback so much yeah that you're like okay this guy's still. But apparently he's been injured.
My only note on this is that, one, Mike Vrabel has been taking drills this week. He's been in the drills.
He's been taking part of the drills. So, you know, that's great.
And then also there should be a Thursday night game. Yeah.
Titans-Jaguars. We can get one of those every year.
Should be a late December Thursday night game. Yep.
Okay. Nerd nugget for this game.
The Titans are the only

team in the AFC who are still winless

away from home this season and in those six

losses they're averaging just 12 points

per game. Yikes.

Five road, one neutral.

Their offense is tough to watch.

Okay. This is going to be a fun game.

Cardinals and Texans.

Kyler Murray looked really

good for someone who hadn't played football for a year.

He was very fast. We were all kind of

shocked. I thought there was going to be a lot more rust.

See you next time. Cardinals and Texans.
Kyler Murray looked really good for someone who hadn't played football for a year. He was very fast.
We were all kind of shocked. I thought there was going to be a lot more rust.
C.J. Stroud is incredible.
I'm a little nervous about the Texans in this game because didn't it feel like the Texans were – we've been on the Texans being like, the Texans are good, the Texans are good, C.J. Stroud's good.
The win against the Bengals, it hit that critical mass of now it's MVP for C.J. Stroud, Texans in the playoffs.
It might be a read-your-press-clippings type of game. I would agree with that.
When they started immediately after the game saying that C.J. Stroud MVP, that's when I was like, if I had C.J.
Stroud stock right now, I wouldn't actually sell it, but I would look at the price and then do the math on my calculator and be like, man, if I sold this right now, I could be rich. That's the only thing that makes, I think the Texans will win, but that is the only thing that's making me nervous about this game.
And the Cardinals get paid to play football too. That's facts.
Those guys are pros. We also have Stroud Boys shirts live in the Barstool store right now.

I'm going to try to find it.

Find it.

Find it. Find it.

Find it.

He's finding it.

He found it.

Stroud Boys shirts.

Barstool Sports.

Nice find.

Thank you.

Stroud Boys with the outline of Texas.

How perfect is that?

Show your support.

Stand proud.

Stand back.

Stand by.

Throw it up there.

Thanks, Max. Now I have two of them unbelievable straw boys straw boys straw boys stand up uh nerd nugget for this game with field goals of 51 and 56 yards last week cardinals kicker matt prater now owns the franchise record of 17 field goals of 50 plus yards despite despite playing in just 40 games with arizona and he has 76 career field 50-plus yards.
That's 18 more than any other player in NFL history. Damn.
Great kicker. Great kicker.
Damn. Who's kicking? Wait.
Say that again, Jake. He has 18 more 50-yard field goals than any other player in NFL history.
That's kind of insane. He has 76.
That's a lot more 50-yard field goals. Yeah, I think Vinatieri is second.
Where's Justin Tucker? My guess is he would be 18 behind. Yeah.
Yeah. He'd probably be second.
Yeah. Yeah.
That's nuts. Okay, good nerd nugget.
Thanks. Afternoon games.
Bucs at 49ers. I hope the 49ers kill them.
I will 49ers are back they are back they're so back it turns out having your best players play helps did you see the replay when they they put together the uh the various clips of trent williams on that one play where he pulls out to the left and then the cornerback just runs away from him he's a monster he's like no i'm taking myself out of play. I opt out.
He's got cornerbacks opting out of plays instead of trying to actually make a tackle. When Trent Williams and Deebo Samuel are on the field, I know, I think the problem is the 49ers have so many dudes that you think, oh, you lose these two guys, you're fine.
But you also have to remember the drop-off of someone that good is going to be larger because he's that good. Like, the Trent Williams no offense to him Trent Williams is the best yeah um also if you're the backup to Trent Williams you probably just think the entire game like fuck I'm not as good as Trent right like what would Trent be doing like I don't want to get in because then they're going to see I'm just we're different like species yeah you miss a block and you think you're something man Trent would have had that he's yeah he's so good.
Yeah. Also, Brock Purdy is back to being, I would say, top 10 quarterback.
Yes, absolutely. Borderline elite.
Yeah, the Bucs just bummed me out. I don't know.
Like, what do they do that makes you excited? Mike Evans. Mike Evans dropping a ball because he's thinking about which fan he's going to hand it to.
That's kind of cool. Mike Evans, Baker sometimes running around.
Todd Bowles is a bummer. Vita Vey is fun.
Yeah, the Bucs bum me out. Their offensive coordinator is a little too attractive.
Yeah. They always show him in his tight shirt, showing everybody up.
This is also biased because Stephen Chase is so annoying. Yeah.
All right, nerd nugget. 49ers running back Christian McCaffrey is averaging 121 yards from scrimmage per game this season, second in the league, right behind Tyreek Hill.
Ooh. That's pretty good.
Pretty damn good. Couldn't score a touchdown last week and get America chicken.
I'm not going to forgive him for that. That hurt.
Well, he would still have to do the dance. Anyone could have gotten America chicken.
He would have. Yeah, but he was going to do the dance.
You don't think he was going to do the dance? Why do you think he – He was going to do the dance. Wait, Jake, why do you think he doesn't like chicken? No, I think he does, but anyone could have done it.
So why are you blaming him? Okay. He was going to do the dance.
You don't think he was going to do the dance? Why do you think he's going to do the dance? Wait, Jake, why do you think he doesn't like chicken? No, I think he does, but anyone could have done it. So why are you blaming him? Okay.
He was going to do the dance. He was going to do the dance.
He was 100% going to do the dance. I would have done the dance.
I would have scored, and then I would have done the dance. Right.
If you give me four opportunities from inside the 10-yard line like he had at the end of the game to score a touchdown, and you don't, I mean would score at least two of those yeah oh wait shake shack tweeted that taylor luwan's chicken dance was good enough oh done now through 11 19 till luwan he did one yeah he did one from the busing with the boys account they said that's good enough for us free chicken shacks on let's go the golf podcaster taylor luwan did it yeah's do it that's wild yeah okay sure let's go i don't know what it has that has a good job taylor um all right jets at bills memes hello wait jake jake do your entrance for memes he gets the same entrance you do i would think that if you're if we're a trombone as his entrance it should just go yeah just imagine Eeyore walking on the camera memes Hank give us one okay thanks Hank. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.
Oh. Memes.
Memes. Memes.
Hello. I didn't really have anything to ask you.
I just wanted to see that you're paying attention. I'm paying attention.
Hello. How are you feeling about this game? Izzy season.
What? Izzy, the running back. Izzy? i can't pronounce his last name izzy they cut my they released michael carter right and they're giving izzy a shot so is brice hall what brice hall is still there but it's but why brice hall is good brice hall is amazing so then what what do you know now is he now izzy steps in to do what he's to be the second back.
Okay. But that's not.

Third?

What about Dalvin Cook?

I don't like Dalvin Cook.

I know you don't, but what are we talking about?

Memes, if we're talking about the New York Jets,

why would a borderline backup running back have anything to do with

whether or not you'll be a better team this weekend?

Because the Bills can't stop the run.

But you just said the third string quarterback is your takeaway for this game.

Izzy's season.

Yeah.

I'm going to have to bet him the score now.

I'm not. run but you just said that the third string quarterback is is your takeaway for this game is he sees yeah i'm gonna have to bet on him to score now i'm gonna have to bet on him to score fucking a memes you put us in a box he's gonna score i mean you guys do have josh allen's number we do i don't the the line on this game is scaring me a little bit exactly that's i love the bills because because the Jets feel so easy.
Like, I looked at this, and I counted it as a win because I was going to take the Jets. And I was like, wait, what? You got to take the Bills.
Yeah, the seven is scary. Seven scary memes.
It's too many points. I'm going to declare that every game for the rest of the season is a must-win for the Bills.
I would say so. I think they need – They might more loss i'm gonna say it's a must win though you can't the the margin of error is too small it's a must win yeah they have to look good because it's it feels like i was uh just thinking about like sad bills fans walking out of the stadium dark out late game yeah you got to win this game you have to win this game that sucks doesn't it i i went outside i was out at the park with blake at 4 45 in the afternoon yesterday yeah and it was dark out it sucks it fucking sucks just end this stupid charade i saw one person tag me and was like big catcher told you about this in chicago it's like wait in new york it's it gets dark at the exact same time it actually gets dark dark earlier in New York what are we talking about all the buildings yeah so the sun kind of sets it's just just change the fucking whatever it's no my problem like savings yeah can't remember is it daylight savings or is it the other thing uh daylight losings no what's the what's the what's the spring one leap back what do we have to do not do daylight savings or do daylight savings not to we want the one in the spring one? Leap back.
What do we have to do? Not do daylight savings or do daylight savings? Not to. We want the one in the spring.
No, I know, but do we do... Are we done with daylight savings or are we keeping it? Done.
Done with it? Okay, great. Done with it.
I'm done with that shit. It sucks.
No, my quarrel is... Wait, why is it called daylight savings when we don't save any daylight? I don't know.

Because I think when they put it in, that's when we get more.

Do we just lose daylight savings?

No, it's the morning is when it gets the- It's so fucking stupid.

It's the stupid farmers.

Also, Boston moved by the state of Arizona.

Yeah.

They do what they want.

Yeah.

Someone told me once it was-

They don't anticipate.

Someone told me it was the farmers once.

I'm just going to blame the farmers.

Shout out to farmers. I like farmers.
But this thing is stupid because they said farmers don't want to wake up and farm in the dark. So now it gets light.
The sunrise is 630, but it sets at 440. Who wouldn't want to take the sun rising at 730 and setting at 540? That's way better.
It's so much better. And I know that we do have some farmers that listen.
So if you're out on your tractor, I love the like whenever they send a picture of them plowing the field. Yeah, shout out to them.
I like that. But I would like you to explain to me how come we have to change our clocks just for you.
Right. I want to know that.
Lights exist now. Yeah, just set up Christmas lights in your field.
Everywhere. Done.
Alright, yeah. I kind of like the bills in this game only because of the spread.
Like, it's scared me off the Jets. This does feel like everything inside the Bills facility this week was probably just straight business.
Oh, yeah. I think they're about that business this week.
I also don't want to get my hopes up. I really don't because we can't score a touchdown.
But if the Jets win and the Dolphins lose, Black Friday is for the first place in the division. Ooh.
So you're still thinking. Yeah, but Kevin Harlan's on the call for the Dolphins.
Yeah, I mean, the Dolphins are not going to lose to the Raiders memes. Anything can happen.
I think it's time for an intervention. I mean, Izzy was really the rock bottom.
Yeah. Izzy was as low as he was.
We can't score a touchdown. And Izzy's the.'m gonna again I'm gonna have to bet on him because you fucking said this guy's name and now he's never gonna score a touchdown probably won't be on our roster next year but now I have to bet on him no he's a good running back played a pit okay but what if he's a good running back why wasn't he playing they they signed Dalvin Cook so memes memes.
All right, Izzy.

Izzy's the guy.

Izzy's the guy.

But do you really want to win this game?

Like, you've already said that you don't want Aaron Rodgers back this year.

I did say that, but the division.

He's so confused.

He's so confused.

The division is also right there if you win a couple games.

He's so confused.

Play the Dolphins twice.

The Dolphins are not going to lose to the Raiders memes.

Ain't no Connell.

Okay.

Hey, OC, you love her.

OC.

You sound like Max right now.

I just want...

But like a shittier Max because Max does this, but his teams are good.

Yeah, how are you comparing the Jets to the Eagles? Because you do this thing where you start. Jets to the Eagles.
Oh, man. Regardless.
You do the thing where you start talking yourself into circles. Then you get like confused with your own words.
When you said that you remind me of Max right now, both of them got offended for opposite reasons. It was great.
Max, it's like when you said Philly's almost title town. All right.
Fair. Do you remember when you said that? Yeah, I remember.
No, you guys have never mentioned it again. Oh, we haven't? No.
Oh, Max, speaking of, I don't know if you saw this, if this came across your desk yesterday, but the new rankings for most popular dog names are out in the United States. Max is second.
Oh, so funny. Yeah.
No, it was number one. It was number one for like seven years in a row.
Yeah. That was like always a fun fact that I had growing up that it's the most popular cat and dog name.
But now it's number two. Cat and dog.
Second place. Yeah.
Damn. All right.
Seahawks at Rams. Oh, wait.
Nerd Nugget. Sorry.
Bill's quarterback. Josh Allen, has thrown a touchdown pass in 18 consecutive games and needs one more to break Jim Kelly's club record set in 1980.
Biased. Why is that biased? Oh, you're the AWLs? Yeah, no, that was biased.
Yeah. Congrats to Josh.
It's a fact, but. Yeah, no, but it's biased.
Biased. It's biased.
There have been some people in the analytics community that have been like, Josh Allen, if you actually look at the tape has been playing great and he doesn't have many turnover worthy plays yeah i'm in for that they're doing the they're doing the bad turnover luck right well this is this is kind of josh you're always going to get some turnovers the real difference if you if you watch the tape slash uh look at the box score is that josh isn't running the ball as much anymore which is good which is i think that's one of those things that we talked about with Justin Fields where it's like, Josh is a great quarterback. We want to limit the number of hits that he takes.
Let's have him run the ball less. And then guess what happens when you run the ball less with your dynamic running quarterback? You're not as good anymore on offense.
You throw more. Yeah, you throw, but like let Josh run.
You know what? Free Josh. Free Josh.
Free Josh. All right, seahawks at rams so i was correct when i said that the rams stink and then they went to stink really bad against cowboys and then they lost three in a row i think i'm ready to buy back it on the rams healthy stafford this also is one of those spread games it makes no sense to me uh seahawks are 6-3, whatever their record is.
They're good. The Rams are bad.
The Rams are a one-point underdog. Huh? Yeah, somebody knows something.
I think the Rams are going to win this game. And doesn't McVay own Carroll? Let's see.
McVay owns Carroll. I don't know if that's true they all own the Cardinals coach we forget this every single year I don't Kyle owns McVay right so then it would make sense I think Carroll might own he's eight and five against Pete Carroll okay who does Pete Carroll owns Kyle yes I think I think so and then they all need to make a chart for us please so um i'm upset because we got a carson wince signing out in los angeles on the bye week so we didn't get one appearance of carson wince once you have carson wince you just want everybody else to be afflicted yes full-blown carson wince yes you want to spread the disease around you want to take everyone gets around.
You want to take joy in the misery of others that have to deal with it too. I feel like those who have not had Carson Wentz play for your football team are missing out on a very painful experience that I want to commiserate with.
He just had a baby too. Yeah.
Carson Wentz? Yeah. He did.
He got signed and went right home to to have a baby and then came back i'm shocked his sperm didn't get picked off uh max when we got carson wentz were you happy for me that you got to see another franchise like deal with the bullshit that is carson um yes but there's also still a part of me that's that thinks that carson wentz could be good so yeah yeah I'm glad you admitted that because I was texting with somebody the other day about Carson Wentz signing with Rams, and I was like, also, if he has one good throw, I'm going to be like, fuck, Carson Wentz is still good. I'm going to fall back into the trap so fast.
But I do want other people to experience having full-blown Carson Wentz. Because I fought for him so hard for so long, and then obviously all shit hit the fan, and then everyone hated him so much.
Yeah. But enough time has passed where I fought for him longer than I hated him.
Yeah. So now I'm like, he could be good.
Having Carson Wentz as a former quarterback for you is not unlike being a zombie. So you got it.
Now you want to spread it to somebody else. I want to bite the Rams.
I want to watch them curl up into a little puddle and then go hunting for somebody else to bite. He could be good.
Yeah, he could be. Could be good.
All right, Nerd Nugget. Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford is set to play in his 200th regular season NFL game.
He needs 198 passing yards in this one to surpass Matt Ryan for the second most ever by a player in his first 200 regular season games. Okay.
Matt Ryan. There's a name.
Have we talked about Matt Ryan? I zoned that one out. I didn't even listen to it.
Sorry. It's all right.
Say it again. Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford is set to play in his 200th regular season game this weekend.
He needs 198 passing yards in this one to surpass Matt Ryan for the second most ever by a player in their first 200 games. Oh, okay.
Yeah. So with Matt Ryan, though, have the Browns kicked the tires on old Matty Ice? There was a tweet, I think, that said, like, it was like the Browns should call him.
Awful announcing said the Cleveland Browns best option for replacing Deshaun Watson might be in the broadcast booth.

And it was a picture of the booth.

And Andrew Cattle on play-by-play guy said, it's a good fit.

I used to run Stefanski's system in my backyard.

Now that's funny.

So with Matt Ryan, I think he has a clause in his contract where he can get out of the booth to go play for an NFL team.

Which tells me that he's thinking about it.

Well, remember watching Matt Ryan last year?

He's sitting by the phone.

That was really bad.

What about Phillip Rivers?

Get all the old.

He's got a playoff game on Friday.

Oh, yeah.

For the high school team.

Yeah.

Someone reported on that.

I would say that Matt Ryan would be a better option than DTF.

DTR?

I'm just going to call him DTF. It's a cooler nickname.
Yeah. Okay.
Vikings and Broncos Sunday Night Football. Josh Dobbs.
Russell Wilson. I'm excited.
I am excited. Josh Dobbs, baby.
Yeah. Josh Dobbs is fun.
He's so fun. And you know what? Russell Wilson might eke back into fun as well.
Maybe. I also think the Broncos, like that win against the Bills, Russell Wilson's playing a lot better.
They started at like the 50-yard line every single drive. And then they got like 15 yards.
I know. So I'm going to take the Vikings in this game most likely.
So on Monday night, Russell Wilson was good. I wouldn't say he was great.
No, he was good. He is good.

He did what he needed to do.

Correct.

They're 4-5.

Everyone was going to laugh at the start of the season about the AFC West record.

And outside the Chiefs, every other team looked like dog shit.

But now that the Raiders have ripped off two in a row

against the Jets and the Giants,

the whole division looks a little bit better.

And the Broncos are not out of it.

They're in the hunt.

The Broncos are in the hunt graphic. They are in the hunt graphic, yes.
They'd have to pass some pretty good teams. Yeah, they're one game behind the Bengals and the Colts.
I guess one and a half behind the Colts. And a half game behind the Bills, right? I know they have the tiebreaker, but they're 4-5.
The Bills are 5-5. Yep.
So, yeah, they've got some work to do. It would be crazy if the Broncos made the playoffs.
It would be awesome. It would be.
It would be fun. Russell Wilson in the playoffs.
I think it would be good for ratings, and that's what we root for. Yeah.
Okay, Jake. History says this will most likely be a close game.
Ten of the 15 games between these two teams have been decided by four or fewer points, including each of the last four matchups. Oh, okay.
Let's do some picks. Where are our standings? Do it.
Do it. Points.
Points. Points.
Points. Big Cat.
Or sorry. We'll start off with the warm up.
15 minutes in Las Vegas. Jake, 11.5.
Max, 11. Memes, 10.
Ooh. Close race.
One and a half. Spicy.
Separating all of us. And the main event, one hour between the three of you.
Big Cat. Hank just sighed.
Big Cat, 12 and a half. PFT, 12.
Hank, 8. Oh, no.
Eight and a half. Eight and a half is a big half point there, Hank.
Next week, we will do three picks. Hank, if it's in consolation, just know that your PowerPoint on the lighthouse was so good that I have full faith that you'll be able to put together a full hour on whether or not this presentation is actually real.
Still 16, 17 picks left. Yeah, and next week we'll do three.
So we'll do a round. Maybe we'll figure out with the lottery ball who gets to go first.
But we'll have one pick. Everyone has to do one pick for Thanksgiving Day.
Or Friday. Or Friday, yeah.
No, Thanksgiving Day. Then you can do Friday or Sunday.
Hank, I've noticed that you've been quiet. What are you upset about? I'm not upset.
I'm just not looking forward to doing an hour of stand-up. You got this.
You got this. You're a big boy.
All right. Who's going first? I believe it's Max.
Yeah, just pick some winners, Hank. Fine.
Don't pick the losers. I don't know.
I'll go. Who's going to confirm it? Somebody.
Just Max. All right, Max.
I don't think I know. Well, we started with PFT, and then I think I went last week in this studio.
Sure. I don't remember.
Yeah, whatever. We rarely see each other's picks.
I am going to be taking the Bears. Plus seven and a half.
I like it. Against the Lions.
Yes. I like it.
They're not as bad as people say. They aren't.
Hank. Or no, memes.
Eagles, Chiefs, over 45 and a half. Oh.
That's fun. That is fun.
That is fun. Yeah, that's very fun.
Goddamn, that's so fun. That's fun.
Fuck. I just want to take that picture so I can smile.
This is not going to make you smile. It doesn't make me smile, but I'm going for it anyway.
Titans plus seven against the Jaguars. That's not fun.
What's your strategy on that? Injury. I think Jags are banged up.
Will Levis, bounce back game. Vrabel, coaching, going to keep it close.
Okay. I'll take Bucs Niners over 41 and a half for my first pick.
That's a good pick. That was going to be mine.
The 49ers might get that on their own. Yep.
I'm going to go. I don't have anything that I love.
I'll be honest with you guys. Don't have anything I love, but I'm going to go with the Steelers.
Road dogs. Plus one against the Browns.
Yep. Let's do it.
Okay. I'm going to go with the Dolphins minus 13 and a half against the Raiders.
Okay. And I'm going to go with Dolphins Raiders over 46 and a half.

Oh, double dip.

They love to score at home.

They love to crush teams at home.

Double dip.

All right.

PFT.

I'm going to go with the Cowboys Panthers over 42 and a half points.

I think CeeDee Lamb gets like 21 points on his own.

Okay.

I will take.

I have to do a spread now. You know what? I'll back it up.
I'll take Rams plus one. Back up what I said.
My theory. I'm going to take the Bears-Lions under 47.5.
Justin Fields coming back. Little rusty.
Bears defense playing well? Bears defense playing well. Lions defense.
Non-existent. Bounce back game.
Oh, okay. I like that.
You can just say like, if a team's good at something, be like, yeah, they're good at this. And if they suck, I'd be like, they're looking to bounce back.
Yeah. They're fired up.
You got it. Oh, this is the dumbest desk thing ever.
If you hit any part of the metal mesh, the whole thing just falls on me.

It's like a trampoline back.

Also, the TV is too small.

Don't hit it.

Fix it.

Okay.

Why did memes?

What did Max go?

He left?

They're playing music on the court.

He's telling them to turn it down.

We can hear it from here.

Oh, I like it, Max. So when our mics are hot.

I like Max just screaming at them.

All right, memes.

Anybody take the Seahawks?

Nope.

Nope. Seahawks minus one.
Okay. Against the Rams? Yep.
On Max, grand finale. Is there a noise for the grand finale? My pick? Yeah.
I want the grossest pick, the Brown Steelers under. Okay.
I think it's like 31. I just saw 32 and a half.
Yep. Did someone else? Wait, did someone take that? Nope.
Okay. I also saw Steelers one and a half, so I don't know.
I've got right now Steelers plus one on ESPN Barstool Sportsbook. Nope.
I didn't get a pancake update this week, so I'll keep you guys posted. Okay.
All right. Finish your fuck, boys.
Let's get it. Let's get it.
How we doing? How we doing? How we doing? Hey, what's up? You fucking loser. My name's Mario Batilevi.

Yeah, Mario?

Mario.

My stardom is flashlights.

Oh, flashlights.

It's getting dark this time of year.

You're going to need a flashlight on your person at all times.

Fuck the sun.

Hey, I got a theory.

I think Mario might have just picked his fancy fuck voice based on what we talked about.

It might be.

It could be.

Hey, the sun.

Did you sit him, Carson Wentz? No. I haven't seen you around too much.
Why are you snitch? My sit-em is Smoke. Smoke.
One of the OG's all-time greatest smoker. Snoop Dogg.
He retired from Smoke. Oh, he didn't die.
Not dead. Retired from Smoke.
But he might as well be. He retired from Smoke.
Full-time gummy guy. Probably going to last a couple weeks.
Have some brownies.

And my sleeper, Draymond Green.

Yeah.

Don't fuck with him.

He'll fucking choke you and put you to sleep.

Put you to sleep.

He's sleeping with fishies.

Love that.

Hey, what's up, assholes?

It's Tommy DeVito.

Looking forward to playing football this weekend for the New York Giants.

You're always Tommy DeVito.

I'm Tommy DeVito this week again.

Bitch, shut the fuck up, Hank.

Your quarterback's Mack Jones.

He's worse than I am.

Bailey Zappi, third string.

I'm starting beer.

I'm going DeVito this week again. Bitch, shut the fuck up, Hank.
Your quarterback's Mack Jones. He's worse than I am.
Bailey Zappi,

third string. I'm starting beer.

We're drinking beer again. Love that.

It's beer season in the wintertime.

I'm sitting not drinking beer.

I used to not drink beer sometimes,

but now guess what? We're drinking some

stunts, and my sleeper this weekend is

me, Tommy DeVito. That's right.

Tommy's going to go into Landover, Maryland, and he he's gonna throw for at least 20 yards Oh hell yes That's a fucking promise That's a DeVito family promise Love that Love that Tommy DeVito You like chicken pom? Love chicken pom Chicken pom Chicken pom and bad boys Now that's what I call a world class night Chicken pom What's up you fucks? My name's George Santos. Hey Georgie boy.
My stardom is OnlyFans. Yeah.
Fucking love that shit. Love tipping everyone.
Seeing all these chicks, guys, whatever you want. Whatever you're into.
It's supporting small business owners. Yeah.
My sit-em is my OnlyFans page. I don't have one.
Didn't peel a banana with my feet on it. People ask me that.
Georgie, did you? I never did that. Did you have an OnlyFans where you peeled a banana with your feet? No.
Hey, Georgie, what do those tootsies do, huh? No. It's never happened.
And then my sleeper is going to be Hank Lockwood. The fuck? People sleeping on this guy.
He's an up-and-comer. Hey.
He's a fucking guy guy He's an up and comer He's a fucking guy He's a good guy Oh, Max is making a face Like, I don't know about that You know what I He's a real piece of shit You know what I heard about Hank? I heard that maybe he's got conflicting business priorities Oh What's that? That's what I heard Not from me Are we still we still doing the voices? No. Not from me.
I didn't hear that. I didn't say that.
But there's some questions about where Hank's priorities lie right now. Yeah, I don't know what's going on.
There's a mutiny going on. A mutiny is incorrect.
You got to get your boys in order. A mutiny is incorrect.
What happened? I don't know. I tried to ask Max and he was like, I'm not talking about it.
I'm not talking about it. Are they going at the king? Max and Memes are forming a coalition.
We just, you know, it's been a long time coming, this new office. There was a couple new things that are coming around, and Hank is just, PMT is just not his top priority anymore, and that's just a fact.
That's bad. Can you give me some examples? Give us some examples.
We need to hear the examples. There's just one example, and I get it.
I agree with you. Viva TV should be a big thing, but it's just part of my take doesn't matter anymore.
Why? What happened? Yeah, but what have I done to make you think that part of my take doesn't matter? Well, every Thursday night, we release our PMTV vlog, and we had an agreement that I was like, oh, this Viva TV thing, you're Wednesday Friday we're gonna go Thursday oh no you broke the agreement and then all of a sudden today we're going two times a week until the new year so we're gonna do Monday Thursday oh hey I side with the boys in the booth it's at different times they're not released at the same time. No.
What are the times? Two hours. It's kind of similar.
So Thursday nights. For a few weeks.
Yeah. But what was Monday, Wednesday, Friday was the agreement.
Yeah, it sounds like you don't care about us anymore. It could have gone Monday, Friday.
I'm with the mutiny. And then we also, I also talked to him about it, and then it became a

you and us situation.

And I was like... You and us

does? Well, then I was like, I thought

you were on... I said, what time are we putting out PMTV?

No, you said, what time are you putting out PMTV?

And then I started saying, if you're going to keep me out of the conversation.

Wrong, wrong, wrong. You and us does?

No. He did you and us, and it's also

about Hank being like, well, I'm

technically the senior vice president.

I'm SVP, so I don't really

work on part of my take. I just...
That also

I don't really work on part of my take. That also was part of the discussion.
He's SVP, and the head logo is spinning, and he's laughing at us. It is a tough, you know, there's a lot of shows, podcasts, streams.
Things have to come out in the same days. There's not enough time.
There's not enough days in the week to just do memes is the real one who should be yeah memes doesn't speak he just fucking chirps me from the clouds I like that memes keep going Izzy Army stand up so Hank what do you think about these guys like to me I'm concerned because it sounds like you don't have your boys in order it's memes memes is a mutineer and I don't again like you don't have your boys in order. It's memes.
Memes is a mutineer. Mutineer.
Nice. And I don't.
Again, like YouTube, the way YouTube works, the algorithm, like people are going to watch what they want to watch. I think releasing something at the same time would be crazy.
I think releasing things at different times when you have a company with, you know, 100, like 50 shows that all do video. I don't think it has anything to do with the scheduling, to be honest.
I think it's more of a you versus us kind of thing. I don't like that.
You forgot where you came from. I haven't.
That's crazy. Actually, now that I think about Big Cat, did we ever give Hank any crap about one of his guys forgetting to press the button? Because that technically-

I mean, this isn't what we have to talk about.

That's true.

You supervised that.

That was on you.

Or having one of his guys have the worst attitude ever and just be moping all the time and saying

Izzy into the microphone.

Yeah.

That shouldn't be a problem for too much longer, but-

Oh!

Now, you can't say that. You know memes will just spiral.
Memes can't. We never said jokes like that.
We didn't say those memes. Memes.
He's not going to fire you. I just like the right reassign your ass TV.
Oh, it's reverse it. I like the idea of just blaming Hank for everything that they do, though.
Yeah, that's that to me seems like good workflow. No, I don't like that.
I don't like that. I am their boss.
I don't like that. No, I love it.
That way, I just get to get mad at Hank. And, I mean, on top of the parking post situation, Hank, things have been kind of dicey.
I feel like they're not too far off. It's a you versus us kind of thing.
You forgot about us. I am us.
No, you're you. We're us.
You're you. We us you're you we're us you hear the we're all us no no you first said every everything that every view every dollar everything goes back to to dave portnoy i just want to make sure that you're still part of this team like you still look yeah you still like us you still wanted like you do the best best for i like most of the people here okay rank us no i'm just kidding no ranking but at the also memes and max are like fuck we're gonna be bottom hank had a look at his face that was like i really want to rank you yeah also the moral of the story is there's two great vlogs that are out right now uh me and pft which one should people watch first i think whatever people the people want to watch i want them to watch this is a team thing very similar names i don't same day memes is also upset about the name um i will but i will say me and pft had a nice did you come up with the name pm tv memes uh me and liam did okay Me and PFT did a nice investigative journalism of uh the head headspace of rico bosco during the invitational scary place scary place terrifying it was it was up close and personal you should go give it a watch i will say this people are going to give rico some shit for not paying attention to the mopping but he did a great job being the assistant coach for the faul.
Do you think people shouldn't put out podcasts on the same day?

No, I think they should.

What's the difference?

Different podcast is a sports podcast.

Macrodosing is a...

What is Macrodosing, Mames?

Yeah, one vlog is a vlog about PMT and one vlog is a vlog about that what's what's what's viva tv about what happens at the barstool office what's pm tv about what happens within the part of my take podcast where's the part of my take podcast it this situation it was at the uh it was at the basketball arena all right i i think we should just end this discussion say, you're on notice. That's fine.
You're suspect. That's fine.
Keep your house in order, Hank. We'll start.
That I need to do. That is my biggest takeaway.
You got to clean your home? I got to, yeah. Oh, he's threatening memes again.
Now Hank's going to take some Adderall tomorrow morning and then just spend all day breathing down your necks. Yeah.
Wait, here's what I want to do. Can we also make a video series of Hank bossing you guys around as a sub brand underneath PMTV? Yeah, you produce that one.
Okay. Got it.
Oh, wait, I have to do my one second in the life of angry Hank Lockwood TikTok that I'm working on for this entire year. Have you been getting every day? Yeah, I started yesterday.
Love it. Love it.
All right. Let's 363 days.
What if you don't see him someday? What about next week? Thanksgiving? No, I'll find him. Okay.
Yeah. All right.
Let's get to our interview. We got Ryan Fitzpatrick and Andrew Whitworth in studio.
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We're going to run this next week.

Apologies for the Bears-Panthers game, but you guys have an awesome slate coming up. You have Bengals-Ravens, right? I do.
Yes. In Baltimore.
Yeah. We're on opposite sides of it, too.
It's not contentious. Yeah.
Well, we both played for the Bengals. People forget.
Yeah, people do forget. When you do these Thursday night football games, are you just like, oh, I guess I'm rooting for this team.
I guess I'm rooting for this. Half the league is yours.
Yeah, well, Witt, only Bengals and Rams. He'll root for them every time.
He already said the Rams are making the playoffs this year. He still stands by it.
I think they're going to win more than seven and a half games this year. That's actually what I said.
I said they stink right before the Cowboys game, and I was proven very right. Okay.
Well, Matt Stafford got hurt. Yeah.
But they stink. But we actually have a whiteboard in my house, and we write all the teams down that I've played for and circle the ones that win or lose.
And the other week, I went 0-5 with four bye weeks. That's a rough week.
It was a rough week. But usually when they play each other, then it's like, okay, we're guaranteed at least some sort of win.
Yeah. You're probably the best person to ask about this.
Like Josh Dobbs, he's bounced around a little bit. We want him to find a forever home.
What he did last week, how hard is that actually to go to a new city and you've got like three days to practice. You don't even get any reps in practice.
How difficult is that to step into a game and do what he did? It's impossible. It's impossible.
We saw it last year with Baker Mayfield when he went to LA and the Raiders game, but Baker was going to be the starter for that game. Like Josh was an afterthought.
They brought him in. They had to get a rookie ready to play.
So all their focus was on Hall and what he was doing and the game plan. And him to step in you know on the sideline talking with the center about where he puts his hands what the snap count is how do you want me that was like during a game and atlanta lost the game right that was it's i don't know that'll ever be done again i mean that was insane so from an offensive lineman's perspective when you have a new guy who you've never blocked for do they they say something like, hey, this is what I like to do, I'm going to roll right? Or is that even a discussion? Probably not in that moment because they didn't have time.
They don't know him well, and he's just getting in there trying to survive. He wasn't in there long enough to know half the plays and concepts.
So he's trying to figure that out. So I don't imagine there's a lot of dialogue with that.
But as a lineman, especially tackles, you're protecting the edges. So you don't know, is this a quarterback who likes to sit deep in the pocket? Does he like to climb up in the pocket? You're trying to feel this guy out as the game goes and where you need to protect for him.
And then I think we talked about it, probably beneficial that it was a road game and they're using a lot of silent count, right? Because then you don't have to go off cadence. Because a quarterback's first time, I don't care't care what practice what it is the first time a new quarterback comes in and says the cadence somebody's jumping yeah and the whole game you're going to be guessing how he's going to use his cadence and those things so I think it probably helped him out some being in the gun using silent count at least that way they're just using their mechanisms and not the quarterback yeah so we're at the point of the season where obviously injuries start piling up um and this is a question for both of you because it's it's great that they probably did this on purpose you know quarterback offensive lineman uh what how many injuries to the offensive line is it become like uh-oh we're in trouble because i know like teams come over one they overcome one but you know two then three it's like depth issue but also cohesiveness with the quarterback.
What's that tipping point usually in a season where it's like we're now in some trouble? No offense to the backups, but at some point it's like we just aren't playing as a team. Well, I think that probably the premium is your outside guys first in the sense of – depending on the team, right? If you've got a young quarterback, veteran center is without question a massive loss if you lose that kind of guy because he's probably declaring everything.
He's doing all the communication for that young guy and probably the calming force a little bit for him while he's playing. But in most offenses where you've got elite tackle play, you look at San Francisco, how good they were playing until Trent Williams goes down and misses a couple games here and there.
He's not healthy. It matters because you literally build your offense around how good that guy is and what he does.
And so that is a big loss. You look at what happened to the Rams last year.
It's unheard of. Every position other than the right tackle was just a rolling wheel of players.
That you have no chance. But I would say for good football teams, probably one or two is like the max.
really depends on the quarterback situation and probably you know whether that's a young guy or a veteran QB who kind of knows you know Drew Brees was an artist that I used to always say obviously being with the Rams you know I'm rooting against the Saints and it's like man the Saints are missing some linemen I'd get livid watching Drew Brees just get the ball out fast have all these answers for oh man he's under all pressure where the ball comes out. I think those kind of guys can handle it better, but you better be in that kind of situation if you lose one or two guys.
I've got a different take than Super Bowl champion Andrew Whitworth. How many consecutive games did you play? Did I play? I played a lot.
The man played a lot. So for the bad teams, I always had that rule where if I'm in the huddle and there are at least two guys lining up on the offensive line that weren't here at the beginning of the year yeah that's the tipping point for me we can do one we could fill in at left guard we can yeah but that's when like you're on your third guy and you're moving your right tackle to the left and we weren't really talking about the teams they're gonna go six and yeah yeah so yeah.
We're going to talk to the world. It depends what perspective you want.
But that's a good point because it does feel like the minute you get that second, it's like, uh-oh. Like even the Browns right now, their Jedrick Wills goes down.
They've now lost both tackles. And now they're talking about swapping their tackles, which I think people don't understand when they're like, oh, yeah, we'll just put the right tackle the left tackles like that's totally different position a hundred i mean tristan wirfs uh you know obviously he has done it this year and it's insane to me that he's done it as well as he has because i was making this point we were talking about their game a couple weeks ago like name a guy that you know that's played both sides it was like a really good player like there's just not any i mean most of the time that guy was an average player at best yeah right and so it's just whenever they say that it's like that's not an easy fix like flipping a guy on the other side is not the answer maybe putting another guy whoever your best left is and give him help a lot chip or do whatever you got to do to help him to me would be better and at least be good on one side where the quarterback knows like hey I can trust my right side like we feel good about the left side i know where pressure is going to probably be coming from and to wit's point too sorry he said and he put it in context for me because even for me it's hard to say like well why can't you just flip over to the right side right next time you go to the bathroom wipe with your left hand oh see what happens yeah thank you wipe with the opposite hand see what happens i had hand surgery back when I was in high school on my right hand.
My life was turned upside down by not being able to use my right arm. What do you mean? I don't get it.
I'm confused. I think we can...
Stranger for writing. We can read.
Yeah, writing. A lot of writing.
If you're playing left tackle, though, and you try to switch to the right, as a left tackle, is one side of your body naturally stronger from doing that, you know, the same like pass set every single time? Yeah. If you look at most offensive linemen like retired players, if you're a right tackle, the left side of your body is where the majority of your injuries are.
Your left ankle, knee, hip, you know, left arm, elbow, because that's really where you're taking all the pressure on on that side of your body. And then if you're a left tackle, it's the right side of your body.
Because your inside part, your outside leg is your kick and stretch leg. That's how you move.
But the inside leg is how you stop force and power and everything else. So usually your inside part of your body is what's injured the most.
So a lot of guys, why they can't flip, even for somebody like me, my right side of my body is where I took all my injuries. So to go to the right side and start telling me I've got to open that up and move it a whole bunch, it's like, man, no, that part of my body doesn't want to move at all.
Right, yeah, right. Makes sense.
What, Fitz, when you're playing a defense, which would you rather go up against, man or zone, and would you rather them blitz or not blitz? Man, 100% of the time. Really? Because, like, Gino, I'm fascinated with Gino, who can't play against man defense, and he just kills zone.
Which is shocking because that's about matchups, right? Right. So it's like, okay, who's Gino throwing to? Okay, we got Lockett, we got DK, and we've got Smith and Jigba.
So it's like they should be able to win some of those matchups uh that's the hard thing is when you don't have dudes to throw to you gotta manufacture it the the rubs you know the the back out of the backfield that kind of stuff but for me if it's man coverage and I got a guy it doesn't matter if it's doubled I mean if it's Brandon Marshall I'm just closing my eyes and throwing it right and some years it works and some years it doesn't we were we were saying that about joe burrow uh it does feel like once or twice a game he's just like i'm just gonna throw it to jamar yep and like even like and even jalen hurts with a.j brown like i'm just gonna throw it up there it probably is not smart but but he's gonna make the catch most times when you watch it he makes a play it's like sometimes we complicate football too much right my guy is guy's better than your guy, so I'm going to give my guy a chance. And that's why I love the A.J.
Brown thing because it's like that's what he does three times a game and two out of three, it's either pass interference or A.J.'s bringing it down. Yeah.
Yeah, so Fitz, from your perspective, we're actually talking about this on Monday's show. As a quarterback, do you bring two separate outfits to wear after the game in case you lose and in case you win? Because there's no worse look than a guy wearing something at the podium after they just took a big loss.
And it's Cam Newton having the shirt that looks like your drapes and like a cowboy hat with tassels on and he's answering questions somberly. Did that occur to you? Because I know that you wore some pretty crazy postgame stuff.
But that's why i always borrowed other people's stuff because i would just show up he still does that normal i would just show up in something normal and then i would be like okay we actually won a game like here we go i gotta put somebody's stuff on yeah which is the deshaun stuff and in other outfits as well but yeah it's always a tough look you know going up to the podium and then having to walk back to the bus you know and the flare when you just lost yeah yeah that is tough you're all dripped out and everyone's just talking like the sad walk back to the bus it's you're here yeah it's not good i would see these are the small things that we uh we think about that probably players don't think about as much but um you guys you went to harvard you went to lsu which similar which school do you think is harder to graduate in four years because i would say lsu yeah um that might be true i'm actually gonna i'm gonna go lsu four years would be tough man i mean you got two years of being incoherent yeah exactly you got a lot of work to do in two years yeah there's i feel like there's a lot of pressure on you yeah they don't have a freds in cambridge yeah you're not worried about freds and bogeys tiger land yeah i agree i would say lsu yeah yeah you had a pretty good it's really hard to get into right yes that's the hard part for some man uh-huh for some not not not for this guy you went to school with uh who was it natalie portman yeah at harvard portman was there. Did you hang out with her? Never.
No, not once. You weren't in the Natalie Portman.
JTT? Listen, he can barely get in there now. I mean, he took us last year.
So look, we go to the Patriots game. We're there.
He's like, hey, I've never been on the subway. He's like, man, we're going to take the...
Witt had never been on a subway. Never been on a subway.
We took him on the T. Took me on the T.
the t that's just that's me on the t i went on the t we went to harvard this was going to give us a tour of the school we got kicked out of the cafeteria as soon as we walked into it they're like get the hell out of here i don't know who you are or what you're doing get out of here wow so we get kicked out in our first building then we went to the widener library and thank god tony gonzalez was there yeah so tony being a beautiful human we got invited to go on a tour by us you know one of the guys that worked in the building it was great but fitz got us kicked out of the library that's clout no uh zuck was there at the same time right yeah did you ever zuck did you get face smashed no that was called smasher? I've done that, but I don't think that's legal.

No, yeah, the Winklevies, they were all there.

Yeah, the whole crew.

Yeah.

That's like the Florida, like the era where they had Dan Bilzerian,

Aaron Hernandez, Tim Tebow.

That's like Harvard for you guys.

Yeah, you've seen the movie.

I mean, that's exactly how the parties were. Yeah.

Exactly, it went down.

All right, so you guys have, I mentioned at the top, you have a good schedule coming up. Again, sorry for the Bears, Panthers.
Black Friday. So Dolphins, Jets.
I have a question about the Jets offensive line. And maybe we're, because we're actually having this conversation with our friend Sam Schwartstein, who you guys know.
He was in the studio. Really, really smart guy.
Great interview. The offensive line, it's so easy when a team struggles to be like, the offensive line sucks.
The Jets feel like maybe that could be true. What is the fix when you're having those type of problems? Is it coaching? Is it play calling? Is it like, how do you fix it in season? Like, we cannot protect the passer here.
Yeah, I think there's so many things that go into that, right? I mean, you got to know the guys you have up front, what they're good at. Because regardless of when you're struggling, I think sometimes, you know, as Fitz said earlier, like we make it more difficult than it is.
And it's like, all right, if we're going to have to be a team that we run the football first and run play actions like what what's the best version of a play action we could do with the guys we have and then if we get in those downs where we've got to sit back there and throw it and we got to throw the ball then we've got to have some answers whether in the screen game you know being able to move the quarterback at times you know getting the ball out faster is that quick game whatever it is and the problem with that is in this situation I don't know that what Zach Wilson's good at yet so it's like all right what is our answer with our line and then what is it that we can trust Zach like all right if we're going to move to quick game because our line struggles and we want to just jump everybody and we're gonna get the ball out fast then there's got to be a trust that the ball's actually going to come out fast and that you can read zones and know this is who it's got to go to so I think to me it's about about, man, I don't know if they have any – we talk about identities on offense, but I don't know if they know enough about who they are and what they're good at to have any answer other than let's just try and run the football because we're big and strong and that's what they want to do. But you look in every game where that's not an answer for them, it's over with.
They have no offensive answer other than we could run the football and try and smash somebody.

Right.

I think their identity is we're hoping Aaron Rodgers is going to come back. Exactly.

Their identity is watch this pregame throw that Aaron Rodgers makes.

Maybe he'll come back in a couple weeks.

Yeah.

How pissed would you be?

And, Fitz, you can answer this too.

Because Zach Wilson, we said it, he's been struggling.

He loves to take sacks to the max.

Like when he's going to get sacked, he's like, let me get even 10 yards further back. Would you tell him like, hey, man, a sack is a sack.
Don't go backwards every single time because it feels like they're in like fourth and 16, fourth and 20, more than any other team. Yeah, and I would say not firing shots, but the work that we do watching like Justin Fields is kind of the same way where there's just some bad sacks.
And so there's different styles of quarterbacks, right? And so the Tom Brady's, the Drew Brees, the Peyton Manning, like that ball was coming out. It didn't matter who was in front of them, what the front five were.
It was coming out. They were going to defeat you just by doing it over and over and over again and frustrating you.
But then you have a guy like Patrick Mahomes, and you look at all these next-gen stats and stuff, like time to throw for Patrick Mahomes. It's like four seconds.
It's crazy at times. Like the amount of times he's held.
And one of the least sack quarterbacks. And he's one of the least sack quarterbacks.
So for me, it's like if Zach Wilson, let's first of all, only scramble forward. Right.
Never go backwards out of the pocket because that was it was something that was a huge issue for him last year that he got a little bit better at. Now we've seen a little bit more of a regression.
But Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady, too, I guess, like the pocket presence and being able to move around. It always was up.
So amazing. So stop running out of the back pocket.
Sometimes Zach Wilson, he has a hard time, even though he's got a strong arm, making it back to the line of scrimmage with the throws. Right.
It's not grounding. Right.
It's like he's on his back foot throwing it 35 yards. Right.
Tom, that's what's so incredible. He got injured.
He tore his ACL stepping up in the pocket and taking a shot like that. And then he came back even more fearless to step up in that pocket and throw.
Because if you're a young quarterback you see these big dudes coming at you it's human nature to say well I'd rather run away from those guys yeah I mean there's a lot of clips with Zach that and that would be my biggest thing that I don't quite you know say that I would buy in with him with is that there's just a lot of plays where it's just like dude you have no feel like do you not feel that the entire line is getting like you got to be able to feel that you like my homes is so great at that the second he feels a lineman's backing up or there's pressure he's gone like he's finding a new place to stand i'm somewhere else but there was a couple clips of the night like he's just zach standing there just patting the ball and literally both tackles are just condensing down on him i'm like dude do you not feel feel this happening? I think there's a lot of football that is hard to explain.

When you're a really good football player, you just feel it,

and you just know what's happening.

When I was playing to play a long time, I could feel somebody's about to roll

up the back of my legs.

I could feel that I'm like, oh, I'm in traffic, I'm in trouble.

I knew when to get myself out of those situations,

and I just don't see that kind of feel that I don't know that there's a fix for that.

I will say watching Will Levis, he was guy you know week one lights the world on fire four touchdowns but watching him play the next week when we had their game against Pittsburgh like he has a feel right and I don't know if that's because he played a bunch in college Brock Purdy played a bunch in college so it's actually like getting out there and playing in these games but Will Levis we came came out of that game i mean he's too much more respect yeah i think i gained more respect than the non-four touchdown that's what i told him after the game i said look like four touchdowns in the debut amazing like the fantasy football owners they love you and everything but like i come out of this game more impressed watching you the beating he took early how he still stayed in there and delivered some of those throws he was really impressive and just seeing like a rookie quarterback be able to climb the pocket like that that's you just see it you're like okay this guy gets it like he's going to be successful yeah and it it you know good offensive line like Detroit's got a great offensive line but quarterbacks can also help out a lot I mean some of those stats real like Sam Howell is a good example of a on, it was like taking so many sacks. Yeah.
Now the other thing is they put a lot of pressure on him because they throw the ball so much, but you know, there's another guy that he's a young guy. He has played a lot of football, but he's had to learn this year how to know when the play is over, how to get the ball out.
And, you know, he's put a lot of pressure on that offensive line because of the amount of throws they have, but also in holding the ball back there. And I think he's gotten better.
Yes, I agree. I am nine and a half.
I thought that was something where it would be tough to improve on because it's like human nature, you know, like you are who you are. He's played so much football.
It's going to be tough to teach him to avoid sacks. But it seems like he's improved.
I might be a delusional commander. No, I agree i like him i like watching him play i think he's competitive and i do think some of those things he got away with in college that you can't get away with in the nfl but he's learning that right now okay i can do this i can't do this and it's been fun to watch him progress it's four and oh against super bowl winning head coaches you know that oh wow yeah that's great right there i like the preseason win against harba harbaugh which i do because that was i mean they take the preseason well preseason worked out well since matt canada came down on the field the steelers haven't lost either so that's yeah is there a difference in having an offensive coordinator or a defensive in the booth as opposed to the sidelines because we've got wilks out in San Francisco, right? Yeah.
It's the same kind of relation to player-only meetings. It means the end is real close.
Yeah. Right? That means the ending is coming real.
If you're doing player-only team meetings, kind of what happened with McDaniels and those guys, like, hey, the players are leading this thing, the end is real close. If you're bringing the coordinator out of the booth and he's going to stand out on the field, we're right there on the teeter you know what i'm not going to fire you yeah come down on the field and let's see if we can stand by each other and this thing can go better we we i think we we aren't the smartest guys but one thing that we do do very well is seeing those signs it's always the like owner vote of confidence if the owner has to come out and say like we we like our gm we like our our head coach like no they don't yeah like if you have to say it you don't like it's it's coming it's it if you're the midway point we're having player meetings like that just go ahead and get ready for the off season get a plan you know start getting getting a game plan for your vacation because it's coming soon then it leaks out what what went on in the yeah were you a leaker or no come on who was i gonna leak things to in c to in Cincinnati? Did people cover our game? Would you guys talk in the player-only meetings? No.
I usually just sat back and said, you know, it's like a great just drama on TV. Like, I'm going to watch this shit show happen.
Like, I'm going to watch just all the chaos. I might even, like, kind of throw a little flame out.
You know, hey, you remember you really hated that concept we had a couple weeks ago, right? You want about it you know i love to kind of stir it up because i always trusted i could calm it back down so i like to kind of flame it up a little bit right yeah walking out of a player's only meeting i have to imagine the emotion is the same every time which is like that was a shit show yeah but we all just yelled at each other it's also you get back to your then meeting rooms quarterback room o- a line room, and the coach is like, what happened? Yeah. What did you say? Yeah, yeah.
Who said it? Yeah. Are you talking shit about me? Yeah.
We were a full-flow shit show. When the coach says it starts and ends with me in a press conference, that's also a sign that the end is near for them.
Yeah. When they say I got to take a long look in the mirror.
If two weeks in a row you say I got to look in the mirror on this one, then that's a good sign. You're not going to be around for that much time.
That and then also any time a coach talks about how good the practice was. Oh, yeah.
They're like, yeah, we've been practicing great. It just hasn't been showing up on Sunday.
It's like, I don't believe that. Yeah.
That's the word. Yeah, it's a practice.
I don't know why we were terrible today. We had a great week of practice.
Yeah, you should have seen it. The guys were firing all week in practice.
You mean all the plays we scripted together worked well? You're running against air? Yeah, those do work. Can you guys talk to us about C.J.
Stroud? Because we've been Stroud boys, believers in C.J. since the very beginning.
Since week one, we're like, okay, this guy is going to be a better quarterback than Bryce, at least his rookie year. But with C.J., it looks like he's doing stuff that even vets are astounded with.
So what is it about him? Is it the mental processing? Is it the throws that he's making? Or what is it? So I would say, first of all, just watching him throw the football. It's pretty.
Like if you have a son, you're like, all right, if you want to learn how to throw, like just watch this guy and the way that it comes out. But I've been really impressed.
It's the, you know, Sloic is running that San Fran Shanahan really impressed uh a with his accuracy his toughness but even last week like for him to take that team down the field in 48 seconds or whatever it was against Tampa Bay on the 10 yard line like Mr. Clutch and throw the touchdown like those are those are games that are going to start defining this dude's career and giving a new feel to the texans so i it i've been nothing but impressed with them i think a lot of it uh as we go forward like when the season started where we big houston texan guys like but now he's got me believing man yeah and he's got all the it's that rare characteristic right with burrow some of these young young guys we've seen, Mahomes, all of a sudden you even start believing in the guys they play with more.
You're like, oh, wait a minute, this dude makes this guy better. Now I think this dude's a better receiver than I thought he was last year.
You know, I believe in this defense more. You can just kind of see the effect, I think, when you talk about that position.
It is obviously the most important position in football, but also to a team's confidence and belief and really how they go out and play when they find one who's like oh man this dude's different that whole team takes this step where you're like man this dude plays the more confidence i've ever seen him play with regardless of the quarterback and so i think he's got that rare trait where you're seeing guys they find a new level of themselves just with playing with them, which I think is what makes you really the most excited.

That's interesting to think about.

And I think if you've got a guy that is, like,

elevating everybody else's confidence around him,

there's probably an element of guys being like,

oh, this isn't a wasted year.

Yeah.

Like, this is actually, we're in the window right now.

Because I would imagine if you're on a team,

there are some years where you know, you know,

after a few weeks, like, well, this is going to be, you know, a season where I'm going to go out there, put out the best film I can, try to compete. It's my job.
I'm going to take pride in it. But if you don't have that actual belief in being able to do great things, then you're probably not going to be able to reach that same level personally as a player.
Well, and compare it to Carolina, right? So Carolina's in a spot where they've got the young quarterback. There's's so many pieces missing around them and thus far other than Adam Thielen like nobody else has been elevated really on that offense whether it's Bryce's play or the play calling or the line or whatever it is I think they're two really interesting ones to look at because coming into this year if you're like okay who's going to have a better year not not Bryce or CJ but who's going to have a better year? Not Bryce or CJ, but who's going to have a better year, the Panthers or Houston? I think a lot of people would have said Carolina.
I mean, maybe I'm in the minority in that, but I thought Carolina would have a better year. But now you're looking at it and you're like, these guys, not just a quarterback away.
They're six, seven, eight years away. Yeah, you start going, how do they get better? When you look at their team, it's like, all right, well, how could you make this team better right now?

Well, wait a minute, they traded all this draft capital to get him,

so they don't have a lot of that to fix it with.

So they've got to make great decisions.

Where if you're Houston, now you've got this confidence in the quarterback,

you've seen how he plays.

You see guys stepping up places, you start believing in other guys on the roster.

Even from a front office standpoint, you start going, all right,

we know the two or three pieces we need to put around this guy, and we're going to be a whole lot better really fast I relate that to Burrow and Cincinnati you're talking about an organization who had never signed free agents all of a sudden they get Joe Burrow and they see his impact and Jamar Chase and these guys and they're like oh we're gonna go get Trey Hendrickson we're gonna go get this guy you know DJ Reader they started investing in people outside the building which they'd never done in their history and it's not just them all of a sudden changing it's whoa this dude just made us all think we're this close we got this much confidence our organization i think that's something cj's doing to houston texans yeah wow let's see what they do from here with it yeah yeah um how much fun do you guys have on the road it feels like you have a lot of fun it's the best man i mean we get it i mean wit usually gets in on like monday but you get oh here we go we get it you know it's always got some side stuff going on we definitely always are in wednesday last night we took in a comedy show at the laugh factory had dinner together i think the coolest thing about it i don't know what other networks do or what it's like elsewhere but we all genuinely like each other yeah we like hanging out and it's so much fun so much different than a player because as a player there's still all that stress in the back of your mind there's okay i've got a meeting okay i've got curfew all right tomorrow i actually have a game i've got to go out and perform i've got to get there for warm-ups uh where this is like we get to show up talk about football which we love and have fun our producer isn't uh overly strict on like the commentary and what we're talking about we we truly enjoy each other and what we're talking about which makes it pretty easy yeah and i mean for me it's just like if they ask me to get in town enough time to film something for like 10 minutes on wednesday i gotta get in tuesday morning yeah you get situated a couple nice they need me to come in and film something wednesday at four so i need to get in tuesday at like three o'clock yeah body after me no but this is how it goes too and ended up getting canceled but we're in baltimore next week and whit was like i had to we had to be in la for something he's like well if we do la on monday and tuesday we could fly to vegas which is on the way to baltimore formula one tuesday night formula one yeah play some golf wednesday then we could get out so that's like just trying to explain that to the wives. Yeah.
We actually have to. Amazon's making us.
Yeah. This is the life on the road when you're talking about football.
You have to do all this stuff. Yeah.
We were talking before we started taping. Fitzy's got some weird shower habits, some weird cleaning habits.
Okay. I mean.
You seem like a smelly guy. Okay.
There's soap involved. I'll say two things.
I mean, one thing was we went around the room. Maybe it was even Carissa that was asking.
It was like, do you wash with soap below your knees? The answer is no. You let it trickle down? You just let it trickle, right? Do you guys wash below? You scrub your calf? I'll just give a little quick.
It's also like counts as my yoga for the day.

Okay.

Like one little stretch.

It's the last of my priority, but if I'm taking normal shower, yeah, I'll-

You'll get down there.

You do go below the knee.

It takes half, it's not that far.

Do you guys shower here?

Do you guys have a locker room?

We do have a shower here.

Shower shoes or no?

You go in?

Do you want to go shower tank?

I'm a raw dog.

You're a raw dog.

It makes some people have problems with that.

I don't have a problem with that.

Yeah, I mean, it's gross.

It's gross sometimes you go to like a real gym locker room that has a lot of people. I would argue different.
Listen, I don't put on sandals, but I will admit sometimes I'm like, this may be a little gross. You walk a little bit on your toes.
I'll do the shuffle. I'll shuffle.
I'm in a shower that I know has been used 75 times today. You get as much of the gunk as much as you want how often is the shower this is this is maybe what was get wit was getting to i had a confrontation with my wife the other day she said uh okay i'm going through the laundry you've got 12 shirts and two pairs of underwear in the last two weeks what's going on so like yeah that's where i struggle yeah that's yeah that's that's on me that's bad i thought you're red-handed on yeah you don't think you went what two weeks in camp one time no shower yeah but that was on like a oh i bet myself it was like a dare in tennessee two weeks training no shower yeah nasty is that yeah that's just really pushing the limits you know pretty bad you get some biohacking or yeah that's great now were you after every practicing game you're showering? Not every game, but every practice, yes.
Not every game? No. It's cold weather.
You're not really sweating that much. Playing on turf.
Don't have much dirt on you. Just going to go home.
But you shower at home, right? No. You get in bed.
Oh, man. Okay.
Yeah. That's weird.
No, I'm weirded out by you guys. No.
What? This is weird? We're the normal people. Okay.
I think it's weird to not shower after you exercise. Yeah.
That's weird. No, I'm weirded out by you guys.
No. What? This is weird? We're the normal people.
I think it's weird to not shower after you exercise. And then get in bed? Yeah.
Yeah. Okay.
I'm the weird one. And then you have those weird black pellets.
Yeah. Now that's weird.
Yeah. Because those get into everything.
Got them in your black base. I mean, you're a hairy guy.
There's no way there went to pellets. Places we won't speak of.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
So for both end your career but it felt like hey they could keep playing when was the last time you got a phone call uh i wouldn't say i got a phone call from a team i got a lot of pressure last year obviously the you know i guess it was what dallas early you know people calling me just buddies like man you got to come here and then some like reporters in Dallas and stuff. And then Cincinnati, when Jonah Williams went down last year, that was like everybody in Cincinnati from outside the building, like, you've got to come here, you've got to do this.
Blame Schrager and people for getting it started. But, you know, I think it was some pressure, but I was in no place.
I'd been running around with this guy on the road on Thursdays. I was having too much fun.
I will say, though, he just hit a drive 330 in your little simulator. Yeah, it's not little.
Oh, huge. Huge simulator.
Thank you. Sorry.
Thank you. Super cool.
And then he went like six or seven from behind the arc from downtown on the court. And he didn't try to dunk, but he at least did like the I can get over the rim finger roll.
Those are highs and they're high rim yeah so i think he could still do it if he wanted to have you gotten any calls there's been a lot of quarterback no calls no calls i think i'm done i would think you would no you would be an army devito you would be an upgrade for the giants yeah tommy devito maybe i don't know if that's a compliment again life is good guys yeah we're having a good time're having a good time. Look, you know, that's the thing.
We have a good time doing the show. We have a good time traveling.
But, like, this time right now normally, like, you know, take your normal Thursday. We finish our production meetings.
Fitz and I go and just walk the city. Like, we go find antique shops and dig into some, you know, antique shop.
You guys, a couple. Fur shops.
We go buy. A very couple.
Oh, dude. Listen, we bought the crew, you know, fur in Green Bay.
we go by oh dude listen we bought the crew you know fur in

green bay we bought tony some gloves we went an antique toy shop found some old 50 60 year old

toys we got these ladies in green bay at the first shop to describe the rabbit fur and how it was

removed and the noises the rabbits kill any rabbits yeah they didn't kill any she did the

noises for us like if somebody that's cute literally if we just documented our thursdays

at lunchtime walking around i think seattle we did the fish market we're throwing around raw fish

Oh, shit. rabbits yeah they didn't kill any she just did the noises for us like if somebody that's cute literally if we just documented our thursdays at lunchtime walking around i think seattle we did the fish market we're throwing around raw fish oh so you know you screwed up just now because amazon's gonna listen to us and be like why aren't we doing a video oh well maybe i didn't mess up yeah you did mess up well that's how it works in the content business you got one fun thing you do and they're like how can we monetize yes now you guys will have to travel out like monday night yeah exactly so if we're doing something thursday but it's like a long segment babe how many days do you think i need to be there to acclimate i think monday it's time zone it's like traveling over to europe you got to be there let your body adjust and then you do the filming probably tuesday morning yeah it's like a london and then you don't have anything on tuesday afternoon or wednesday or Thursday until evening, but you still got to stay in town.

Exactly.

Being practical to fly back and then fly back. Wouldn't make sense.

No.

Would not make sense.

The environment.

Yeah.

Got to do it.

What's the best food city you've been to?

You're going to say New Orleans.

We were actually talking with Marissa.

I will say.

Yeah.

Now, Witt's going to be mad at me because he was doing a little keto, whatever, but it

went out the window in New Orleans. Yeah.
The diet was gone. Gone.
We were saying. And I can't get back.
I'm done. I was doing so good.
You go there. We went there for Final Four, and it was just like, oh, yeah, why wouldn't I have a side of gumbo with every meal? I might have literally took down 15,000 calories on the Tuesday I was there with David Chang, and we did Galatois and everything else.
I mean, that was an insane day of food. I still I didn't eat for like, the next day I see them at dinner and I'm like, I don't want anything.
I can't. Oh, there's nothing worse than waking up full.
Oh, couldn't do it. Full sweat.
Porn sweat. What's happening? I've been in a sauna.
Yeah. I don't want to eat breakfast.
I've been between gumbo and jambalaya so I've got to get both at a single meal. That was the other issue is we had to – when we went out in New Orleans the next day, we had to try everything.
Yeah. So we ordered – what was the thing they brought you? The triple – was it the chop? Oh, yeah, the triple chop.
Yeah. And the other thing is – Triple cut.
No double cut. Triple cut pork chop.
I mean, this thing like that. But you don't even ask for it.
They just – they're like, oh, Witt, he's a big guy. And it's just the food just keeps – Couch on.
Yeah. Sounds weird.
What about, you guys are both Cincinnati guys, kind of. You spent time in Cincinnati.
Skyline Chili. Can't do it.
Did you ever get into it? Mm-mm. Never into it.
That's baby food. The job, yes.
On the noodles. On the spaghetti.
I love Cincinnati. It's baby food.
It's gross. It's secretly delicious to have once a year.
It's gross. Really? Yeah, and then you get the.
Like kind of a closet thing? You don't want anybody to know about it,

but you just want to try it one more time.

I was in the closet about enjoying Skyline

Chili for years, and

I like it, but you can't have it every day.

You do the oyster cracker with the hot sauce,

do a couple conies, and then you do the...

I just think it's embarrassing to call it chili. It's the most

disgusting-looking dish in the

world. I'll put it on a hot dog, though, but I'm not

going to do it on the spaghetti. But that's the thing that is crazy for all these people in Cincinnati who go to Skyline for lunch and go back to their job.
They might be the craziest people in the world. That's worse than the shower thing.
Yeah, way worse. Yeah, especially if they're wiping left-handed.
A belly full of chili sitting at your desk? That's gross. That's just weigh you down.
All right, who do you guys have in the Super Bowl right now? We're in week 10. I'm living a lot less stress on me right now because I actually took the Niners-Bengals as my Super Bowl matchup.
So the first six weeks of the season, I was not a happy camper, let's say it that way. I was really stressed out, like, am I going to have to bash my Bengals on air? I don't know.
But they finally got it going, and now we're kind of looking like we're headed that direction i love it so i'm i'm on the i'm on the train again that i still think it's bengals niners okay and i've had ravens niners all year yes oh those are two good so that's why i said we're in a little bit of a battle next week we may not be that friendly there may be no lunchtime on thursday next week we're on the opposite sides of the raven ravens bengals matchup but we do need to see San Fran get back on track. We do need that.
They're going to get back on track. Do you think that, like, Brock Purdy is a perfect fodder for the first-take culture of, like, if they win 5-0, he's elite.
We fall for this. We did that.
Like, he's top-ten quarterback. Loses three in a row.
He's like, yeah, he sucks. He's good.
So, quick disclaimer, we're from the same hometown gilbert arizona okay so i'm a little bit biased yep however um he is good okay even even in these losses look there's been some turnovers there's been some stuff but like if you put on the tape and watch the game i mean the dude is playing at such a high yeah you guys are big tape guy we saw the film room right yeah the simulator and the hoop. Yeah, you're grinding.
All 22. Yeah, he's just fine.
He is. I think the thing is that I've been in kind of that mode of like, all right, I think the dude's playing great.
I'm not ready to call him some top five, whatever everybody wants to put him on his pedestal. And then they're like mad at the people who said this all along.
Like, no, no, no, look at all these other things. My deal is he's playing really well.
I think offensive think offensively they are also really good they have a lot of talent and ability but the thing that it's like to me it's not oh man he's amazing when they're winning and then he's terrible i think he's playing solid he's going to make mistakes he's played some really good quarterback at times he's made a couple mistakes last few weeks they've also run the ball the worst they've run it all season yeah these losses so they've not been that kind of team offensively as a whole but he's gonna wear it all now right like now we're gonna be like oh it's all him that's not true I mean you look out of out of Chris McCaffrey's top runs they're barely under over three yards of carry yeah out you take two runs away from him in that stretch so they have not been able to run the football well and that offense is built on that so if they get back doing that, we'll get back to being Brock Purdy's amazing. And I think it was a Cleveland game where he drove them down at the end of the game and they just missed the field goal.
Yeah, I mean, like literally. Quick tip, that's a quick way to get out of media.
That was way too rational. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, yeah. No, he stinks.
I did this during the trade deadline. I was texting Les Snead about people I think should go, like, hey, Les, what do you think about this guy? This guy goes, wait, stop.
This is the NFL. You're being rational right now? That's not how it works.
Just look at the records and then if your record is good, then the quarterback is great. You throw a pick at your back.
I took your advice, by the way, this is from before I even started with the Amazon gig and you said just hot takes and if they're not right, it doesn't matter but if you hit them then, and I said a couple weeks ago that the chiefs would lose three of the next four oh it's great i take right they lose to the chart or they beat the chargers but then they lose to denver and it's yeah now we got miami and philly yeah no it didn't work out that's okay no one remembers nobody well i should stop bringing it yeah you should bring it up but now i that's all i'm going to remember from you yeah you really botched that chief when they beat the eagles we're going to just be like fitz is a fucking moron. Yeah, I'll bringing it up.
Yeah, you should stop bringing it up. But now that's all I'm going to remember from you.
Yeah. You really botched that Chiefs.
When they beat the Eagles, we're going to just be like, Fitz is a fucking moron. Yeah.
Yeah, I'll take it too. That's on me.
Yeah, I just bet against his hot takes in the work. Yeah.
So one of us is happy. I think it's been awesome.
Yeah, you can change your opinion. Material change every week.
It's easy. Perfect.
Yeah. There's one big question mark in the NFL right now, and that's who's going to get the last seed in the NFC.
And it could be anybody. So on record, what dogshit team do you think is going to make the playoffs this year? But you're already saying we're taking whoever wins the NFC South out of this, correct? Yes, correct.
Okay. I always got to look at it just to make sure that we're not missing somebody.
Because there's like four good teams, four or five really good teams that you can believe in. Well, we had this argument at the end of the year when the Rams were playing good to start the season.
I was saying that I think they have a chance. They're going to win more games than people think.
I think they have a chance to make the playoff. Because I was saying, like, outside of the top five that you want to pick in the NFC, like, who the hell do you actually trust in the NFC? Nobody.
So anybody could win it. The problem with them is they have a hellacious schedule.
So getting a lot of wins was not going to be a very easy thing for them. I'm going to say Atlanta.
Oh, okay. I like Heineken.
Yeah. You like Heineken? We're a big Taylor guy.
He plays a fun brand of football. He does.
He does. Oh, man.
We're saying – we think – you know what? I like Atlanta. I think – I already picked Atlanta, though.
I know. I like Atlanta.
But, you know, I think Washington's going to make a run. I like you.
Well, that's fun. I like you.
Yeah. It's really a good pick.
Washington's making a run. And now you can steal this take.
I'm giving you permission. Okay.
Perfect. If Atlanta, or excuse me, if Washington makes the playoffs and they get matched up against the Eagles in the first round, Eagles don't want to play the Commanders first.
They don't. Lost to them last year, giving up 31 both games this year.
I agree with that completely. Yeah, Commanders can beat the Eagles in the first round of the playoffs.
And I think Sam Howell's the guy who's only getting better. Yeah.
I truly believe that. Am I okay and truly, because I think I've reached the point finally where I can say he is the guy and we should build around Sam Howell.
Is that a fair thing for me to truly believe in my heart or am I setting myself up for utter disappointment? I think that just to my point earlier about how you put a team together, I think that you do build around Sam Howell because you're going to need a roster to build around him. And if he ends up not being the guy, you don't lose in having a stacked roster of talent.
The best way to replace the quarterback is have a bunch of good people for him to play with. You're okay with the Chase John Montez-Bet thing? I kind of have to be because the defense was just atrocious.
And in the past, they'd played so well, especially that defensive line had played so well as a unit. Actually, in the years where Chase wasn't on the field, we were really strong.
And then it's kind of a rebuild. Like, the defense isn't working.
You have to try to get something. I'm glad that Big Cat got him.
That Montez Sweat's going to be there. Because I think he's a better player than Chase Young.
Do you wait until after the game to see what Magic Johnson puts out in order to formulate your ideas of how they play? Yeah, so if we lose, I wait until Magic Johnson says, it's tough to win a game in the NFL when you only score seven points. And then I'm like, good point, Magic.
We should try to score more than seven points. He breaks it down.
He doesn't play around with his opinions after the game. I love it.
He does not. He gives it to his screen.
I think after our game, he just really let them have it. It was great.
Yeah, he goes for it. Alright, I have one last question.
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So, Fitz bashed our guy Jared Goff and he hates Jared Goff. He got caught in that.
Facts. Have you gotten caught in saying something about someone and having them be like, what the fuck, man? We don't forget.
Well, you know that Jared Goff is like his best friend too. Well, he's our best friend.
Yeah. Well, I'm outnumbered here.
Okay. Miss you, Jared.
Poor man. Anyways, Sam Howell is a poor man's Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Oh, okay. Well, yeah.
You know what I'm saying? If you look at his bank Have you had it, though? Have you had it where you did something? I don't think so. I think it's the only one probably for me that he could come back, but I still would say the tape looked like it.
I did say Kayvon Thibodeau earlier this year really needed to start picking up because he was not living up to the hype, and then he's had some good games. Now, I would also argue if we went and looked at that tape, it was probably a lot of Zach Wilson holding on to the football and running around with it, but he has played better, and he is racking up some sacks.
So I feel like my take was a little more like I need to see X, Y, and Z out of you if you want to keep living up to the hype. That's good.
Fire him up. Right? So I kind of feel like I can always go back to that.
You know, Ryan's – he had a good moment. Jerry called him out on set.
It was great it was awesome the best moments you know and i was in between so it's like my buddy and then it's like jared my little brother and he has this moment where he calls it was great like i want to see him do both former teammates you stuck up for jared yeah i didn't stick up i cheered on his going yeah that was we did too yeah you're smart though to give yourself an out like we do that with the are frauds. Yeah.
But if they beat a good team. Yeah.
If they win a Super Bowl, then they'll prove to me personally that they're able to win good playoff games. They'll be like, oh, yeah, you guys called them frauds.
Like, well, yeah, then they beat a good team. Now they're not.
Exactly. Wow.
Yeah. It's easy.
And also take credit. Yes.
These are all tricks of the game. We're vets.
You're the one that basically told Thibodeau,

you need to do this, and he used you as motivation.

And now it's like motivation. So it's now almost like you're a great player too.

Yeah.

Exactly.

I called him out, and he answered the call.

That's right.

Yeah.

Like my pump-up speech to the Bears on Thursday Night Football.

Like I picked the commanders because of how the Bears have been playing.

I gave a speech about Dick Buckus, and that was the night,

and everything happened.

And so I was like, you know what? Let's live life off this guy. i used to talk about being football players and stuff talking about whose fault it is pointing fingers is it gets he is it all these things let's just go out and play football yeah that's what we do and they go out and they beat the commanders you're now i'm an idiot because i bet against them but i got fired up in the moment yeah let's go win and then i realized why would i give a pump up speech and i didn't even that team.
You're supposed to be neutral in the media. You're supposed to be a journalist out there.
And then you go out and you inspire a team to win. That sounds fair.
Sounds like it should be investigated. That was the best game the Bears played all season.
I said it at the time. I don't think it's a sustainable strategy to have a legend die before every game.
Or to just throw hitches to DJ Moore and then watch him go. He's so good.
Oh, my good. You know what Carolina could use? It would be crazy.
A DJ Moore type guy. Or a Christian McCaffrey type.
They have to be smarter than that when they put out the report. They're like, we're looking to add a veteran receiver.
It's like, uh, DJ Moore? You can't say that, guys. Well, they're going to have a high pick in the draft, so they'll be able to get a playmaker.
Yeah, and then the Christian McCaffrey thing worked out. Yeah.
By the way, so we are going to run this next week, but we are right before the Bears-Panthers game. I think I'm rooting for a tie because that would actually be the best spot as a Bears fan for both draft picks.
Really? Yeah. You're not really rooting for a tie, though.
It would be the worst. Oh, you've got to root for ties, especially in bad games.
It's exhilarating. Listen, we were – We were both a part of the Donovan McNabb.
I didn't know you could tie. I didn't know you could tie.
I played in that game. I loved that.
Big 13-13 tie. That was huge.
I loved that. Good job, dude.
Yeah, good job. I'm proud of you, man.
I feel like the Bengals tie more games than anybody. Yeah, tied against the Panthers, too.
Almost tied against the Dolphins. Yeah.
They just like to tie. The Burrow Bowl.
Yeah. All right.
Well, thank you, guys. Always great to have you on.
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Lil. You know, it's not Lil.
It's big. Like Lil' Kim.
Yeah. Like a rapper name.
Yeah. We're going to now have to.
Young. He called us out.
We're going to have to build an even bigger golf simulator. Yeah.
Your little young golf simulator. Young simulator.
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All right, FireFest. Hank, give it to us.
My FireFest is I got a mutiny going underneath me that I got to handle. That's a fact fire fest is a little fire literal fire fest uh and i don't know if this is is gonna expose me for for being i don't even know just having bad house talk it out house manners or organization okay okay i keep all my bread in my i have like uh it's not a stove that's it's a little bit higher up off the ground.
You keep your bread in your stove? Yes. Like it's a cabinet? Yep.
Okay. And the other night, I was going to make pizza rolls, and I took all the bread out.
I thought... All the bread? To heat up, to preheat the oven.
Oh. Preheat the oven to 400 degrees.
Was in the other room room i think i was putting some laundry in and then i smelt uh something burning realized i left a bag with two hot dog buns in it oh and it was on fire oh so the plastic and everything plastic and everything it was late i was like smelled so bad it was it was a late night like i'm kind of hungry like fuck it i'll make some pizza rolls and i was starving actually and then i was so you were uh flustered about almost burning my apartment down that i didn't even make the pizza rolls and yeah my house smelt for like a day uh hank before you uh turned your oven on would you describe yourself more as being like snoop dog today or snoop dog for every other day of his life before today? Every other day before today. Yeah.
Okay. That's what I figured.
Pizza rolls. Yeah.
Did the fire alarm go off? No. Oh, that's lucky because that's the worst.
When you live in a condo and the fire alarm goes off. Yeah.
I did that one year on Thanksgiving in New York. Makes a scene.
Leroy was like pissing himself out in the hallway because he was afraid of the noises. My neighbors came out.
I was like, sorry for ruining Thanksgiving. Everyone.
Yeah. Not only am I not good at cooking, I can't even cook pizza rolls.
Damn. I gotta grow up.
Tough luck. You and Blake Bortles.
You should get his recipe. He's figured that out, I'm sure.
Yeah. Alright, PFT or FireFest? My FireFest is that the NCAA has rejected the most recent strongly worded letter from James Madison, lobbying to be included in the Sunbelt Championship game, as well as potentially a New Year's Six Bowl, if they were to go undefeated from this point on.
So we're going to write more strongly worded letters. In fact, the Virginia Attorney General has now written a strongly worded letter.
So we have no shortage of letters that we are willing to write. The best letter writers on it.
Yeah, we're going to get rejected like 20 more times. Love it.
I hope you have your rejection stamp ready on you. But that's okay because we've got game day this weekend in Harrisonburg.
And I know that people in Corvallis are upset about that. Honestly, Corvallis had a very strong case for this weekend's game.
So I do feel bad for Beavers fans. But Harrisonburg is going to be awesome.
They had game day back in 2018. It was massive.
And I'm going to be the guest picker. Whoa.
So, yeah, it's going to be very exciting. I can't wait to go back to Harrisonburg.
It's been a while. Actually, just over a year since I've been back there.
But it's going to be a fun time. Excited to hang out with Corso, hang out with Herbie, put on a mascot head.
You should steal a mascot head before Corso can do it. Yeah.
What is the mascot for? Oh, is it the Mountaineer App State? Oh, yeah. They just wear the hat with the gun.
Yeah, they wear the hat. I would love to steal the gun.
Yeah. Don't you gun yeah don't you dare lay yeah um okay my fire fest is i was going uh to walk stella down the alley the other day and there was some 13 year olds in my alley and they were like hey big cat you want to take a shot they were shooting basketball i was like well this is bad because they're 13 and they know who i am that's bad and then i proceeded to shoot and miss like 10 times in a row because I was shooting one handed while I had still in my other hand.
And I deflected and I was like, what do you guys think about Justin Fields? And then for the next five minutes, I had a debate with two 13 year olds in a Chicago alley about Justin Fields. Did you win? No, they agreed with me.
Not the guy, but unfortunate how it all went down. Yeah.
But yeah, it was just like one of those moments. It's like, what am I doing right now? Why did I do this? What am I doing? I'm just literally just missing shot after shot being like, yeah, you know, he hasn't really had a fair shake.
The injury with two 13 year olds. Yeah.
Well, you got to get your takes off somewhere. Yeah.
Yeah. I think it would be a great show, a great sports debate show, if you had a host debating like an eight-year-old.
It would be fun. And you could include anything like who's better, Spider-Man or Superman.
Yeah. And get into serious debates with a child.
Yeah, it would be fun. So, yeah.
Yeah, just if you see me and Allie talking to a couple 13-year-olds, those are my new best friends. So don't be freaked out about it.
Jake, finish us off. Yeah off yeah so Tuesday night I was credentialed for the Champions Classic over at the United Center and I went to the media buffet and I got red sauce on my shirt a new button down no no Jake not the media buffet yeah delicious food great spread club.
We'll see. Damn, Jake.
Yeah. You know what? If you spill red wine on your shirt, you know the best way to get it out? Pour white wine on it.
True. Pour white wine on it.
Actually? Yeah. Is that true? I did that one time, and it worked.
That is true. Yeah, it's true.
It's true to happen. What is true? It's a fact.
What is real? Right, Hank?

He's not listening.

He's thinking about Viva TV.

Yeah.

100%.

No, he's commenting under PMTV.

This is pretty good, but Viva TV this week was fine.

100% you were just looking at Viva TV.

No.

Subscribe to them all.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Everybody eats.

It sucks because you just shouldn't.

What's Viva TV about today? There's a lot of stuff. Hank getting the lottery ball.
Imagine if that was the first episode. That would be great.
All right. Numbers.
17. 8.
18. I'll go 73.
3. Max.

20.

What do the other boys got?

I texted having to come in.

10 and 22.

Did you just make that up?

Yeah.

I like it.

84.

84.

84.

What are you looking at Hank?

Just look at the lottery roll

Love you guys I'll be coming for your love of pain Needless to say

I'm all set in

But I need some little weight

Just only learn that life is okay

Say unto me

At least we're better to be safe and sorry

Say unto me

At least we're better to be safe and sorry We'll be coming for you anyway When you shine away Thank you. Take me off On the island of the Lord Take a dinner

Take a dinner

Take a dinner

Take a dinner