Ryan Fitzpatrick, Andrew Whitworth, NFL Week 11 Picks And Preview, Fyre Fest And The Bengals Might Be Dead

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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we have Andrew Whitworth and Ryan Fitzpatrick in studio. We're going to talk week 11 picks and preview.

Speaker 1 We also are going to talk about the end of the Bengals season, Thursday night football, the first one that we were very excited for, and it was a bummer. So we got a lot of show, though.

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Speaker 1 Today is Friday, November 17th, and the Bengals season is over.

Speaker 2 That was a bummer. It was a bummer.
On drone Thursday, nonetheless. Oh, my God.

Speaker 2 The pageantry was incredible from the NFL. We had Obama remote controlling an army of drones.
I think we had two that crashed.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 there were two drone delays. Mark Andrews went out.
Lamar Jackson got his ankle rolled up on, and then Joe Burrow looks to be out for a very long time.

Speaker 1 It's a UCL injury. Couldn't grip the football.
Just the biggest bummer.

Speaker 1 Like, I sat there and I was like, this, we've dealt with so many quarterback injuries this year, and the Bengals have no margin for error because of the way they started their season.

Speaker 1 And now it looks like we will not get the Bengals or Joe Burrow, more importantly, Joe Burrow, in the playoffs and get to see what they could do. It's a complete and utter bummer.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's a huge night for as a blank fan. I'm seeing a lot of as a Ravens fan, I'm sorry to see what's happened to Joe Burrow.
As an avid Steelers fan, I'm sorry to see what happened to Joe Burrow.

Speaker 2 Just support pouring out from across the league. It's touching to see that.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. Actually, as we were taping this, Jake Browning did score a touchdown.
Hmm. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Jake Browning, the future.

Speaker 2 And unfortunately for the Bengals, RG3 has already committed himself to trying out for the Browns if they'll have him. Yeah.
So he put himself, his name in the hat for that.

Speaker 2 Although there was a picture of Joe Flacco on an airplane going up to Cleveland.

Speaker 2 What a story that would be, huh? If Joe Flacco came in, handed the ball off for 90% of the time, threw 12 passes a game, and the Browns won the Super Bowl. I think that's what I'm rooting for now.

Speaker 1 Yes, it would be incredible. But yeah, we have to come to grips with know Joe Burrow probably for a long time.

Speaker 1 It does feel like he's going to be out for a while.

Speaker 1 The body language, he was pissed.

Speaker 1 I think they showed him on the sideline coming out of the half, talking to Sam Hubbard. He was like, can you go? And he's like, nope.
And

Speaker 1 he had a mysterious

Speaker 1 wrist brace on that the Bengals social media team accidentally tweeted out. And Chris Long did a great job.
He actually found the play from last week, play two. He got squooshed by a lineman.

Speaker 1 And so Chris was all on top of that, found it. And then, so he might have had a pre-existing injury to that hand.
He re-injured it or injured it further. And then we got our favorite guy,

Speaker 1 Mike Florio, who will be on the show on Tuesday. We figured Thanksgiving, got to have your crazy uncle that you don't really agree with, but you love anyway.
So Florio will be on the show next week.

Speaker 1 But Florio said, meanwhile, the NFL injury reporting system is a joke, as evidenced by Burroughs' wrist injury being hidden.

Speaker 1 The joke will be on the NFL when Congress calls a hearing or prosecutor convenes a grand jury. Yep.

Speaker 1 Fuck yeah.

Speaker 2 I would love to see that. I love it when Mike really sinks his teeth into a story and thinks way, way outside the box.

Speaker 2 And listen, if Congress got their act together and brought Roger Goodell under testimony and just grilled him about the injury reporting process, I actually think that would have bipartisan support.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I think everyone can get behind that.

Speaker 2 There's only a few common enemies that we have left in America. There's the NCAA,

Speaker 2 there's Roger Goodell. We used to have Osam bin Laden, but the events the last couple days, I'm not so sure about it anymore.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 But yeah, if you want to get people behind you, just bring Roger Goodell up and make him testify under oath. Yes.

Speaker 2 You said Chris Long was the one that found that?

Speaker 1 Yeah, Chris Long found it.

Speaker 2 Chris Long? Chris Long. Like tape study Chris Long?

Speaker 1 Chris Long went, he saw the picture of Joe Burrow that was deleted, and he went back to the Texans game, and he found it. Play two in the Texans game.

Speaker 1 He got smushed in a bang-bang play with his offensive lineman, and you can see Joe Burrow like

Speaker 1 shaking the hand on play two.

Speaker 2 Chris Long, your number one source for right-wing news.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he got it.

Speaker 1 Dude, he did the work. So,

Speaker 1 yeah,

Speaker 1 as for the Ravens, so Joe Burrow doesn't play defense. The Bengals' defense have their own issues.

Speaker 1 I know the game flow changes when Joe Burrow's not in the game, but the Ravens' offense looked awesome.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they looked really good.

Speaker 1 And a banged up Lamar

Speaker 2 doing it. Lamar went down a couple times where it looked like old Lamar would have been able to keep running.
So I don't think he's going to be 100%.

Speaker 1 He was protecting himself, it felt like, but he was throwing the ball around the yard. Odell Beckham looks good.
116 yards for him. They were running the ball.

Speaker 1 The Ravens are like all the way back where they now have many backs who can get you yards.

Speaker 1 And they said, you know, Keaton Mitchell,

Speaker 1 Gus Edwards, and Lamar Jackson all running.

Speaker 1 Did Justice Hill score a touchdown? No, he didn't.

Speaker 2 This might be the... He came in for a play.

Speaker 1 I don't know if he scored a touchdown.

Speaker 2 Remember a couple years ago when every Raven got hurt? I know it happens every year. Yes.
But a couple years ago, it was like weeks one and two were just crazy for him.

Speaker 2 At the time, towards the end of the season, we're like, holy shit, are the Ravens actually just geniuses by getting all their injuries out of the way early?

Speaker 1 Best free agency signings is getting a guy back from the IR.

Speaker 2 So are the Ravens going to be peaking at exactly the right time?

Speaker 1 We'll see what happens with Mark Andrews. Hopefully, that's not a long-term issue because he is very important to their offense.
Like that first drive, they marched right down the field.

Speaker 2 Yeah, why do you think Mark Andrews doesn't necessarily get as much credit as like a Travis Kelsey?

Speaker 1 Because Travis Kelsey's better?

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's probably true. But Mark Andrews is pretty damn good.

Speaker 1 He is very good.

Speaker 2 I think he's underrated, actually.

Speaker 1 I would agree, too. I also didn't realize until like a few weeks ago that he's a diabetic and has to get his insulin tested every time he comes off the field.

Speaker 2 Are you serious? Like, go on the sidelines?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 I think it was maybe inside the NFL. He was mic'd up.
Every time he comes off, he has to get his test to see where his insulin levels are. That's great.
Crazy. So, yeah, the Ravens look good, though.

Speaker 1 The Ravens look good. And I'm just bummed about Joe Burrow.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it sucks. It sucks a lot.

Speaker 2 For a fan of football, it's just bad. It's bad.
Because you want to see, like, the game is more fun when Joe Burrow is playing because he's awesome.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And now the

Speaker 1 maybe

Speaker 1 we'll get to when we do our weekend preview. We got an all-time memes desperation spin zone.
But memes,

Speaker 1 maybe there's a spot open.

Speaker 1 You got to just jump like six teams. Maybe there's a spot open.
Got to win Sunday. Got to win Sunday.
All right, we'll get to that. All right, let's do it.
Let's get to all of our picks in preview.

Speaker 1 We're going to talk about every single game on Sunday. And then we got Ryan Fitzpatrick, Andrew Whitworth, and Firefest of the Week taking you to the weekend.
Okay,

Speaker 1 week 11 picks in preview time.

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Speaker 1 The Eagles and the Chiefs, Super Bowl rematch, everything else. There's some good games.
I actually am going to say maybe this is going to be our chaos week. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I was looking at the schedule, and on paper, nothing that really jumps out to me of being like, oh, goddamn, I can't wait to see that game during the day.

Speaker 2 But we're getting great prime time games, so let's not forget that.

Speaker 2 And you know that some of these games are going to have very surprising endings to them. Like there are going to be some teams that get upset this weekend.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.

Speaker 1 Yeah. There's going to be some stupid shit that happens.
So let's jump into it.

Speaker 1 We'll get to our picks later. But let's start with the best early game because it means the most in terms of the AFC North, the playoff picture.

Speaker 1 All four teams in the AFC North right now are in the playoffs. Or, no, sorry, the Bengals are not, which that was stupid of me because we just watched Bengals Ravens.
You heard us talk about it.

Speaker 1 But let's get to it. Steelers at Browns.
Deshaun Watson out for the year. DTR starting,

Speaker 1 who is not good. I know that PJ Walker's also not good, and I guess I could see the reasoning of, like, hey, you want to see what you got with the young guy?

Speaker 2 But DTR is not good. He's fun.

Speaker 1 He's definitely fun. In a bad way,

Speaker 1 Browns fan.

Speaker 2 Like, he throws the ball backwards.

Speaker 2 But I think first things first, we should talk about the injury to Deshaun Watson because this sounds like he's the toughest guy on planet Earth, according to his agent that texted Tom Palisero.

Speaker 2 So according to old TP, he said Watson wanted to be shot up up in an attempt to play through his shoulder and ankle injuries.

Speaker 2 He also reported that Watson received multiple medical opinions, and they told him if he took a hit to the same spot, his shoulder could fall apart. I love it.
His shoulder could disintegrate.

Speaker 1 His shoulder could explode.

Speaker 2 It's broken.

Speaker 1 His body would be broken.

Speaker 2 It's like Juju's knee, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 It could just disintegrate at any given time.

Speaker 1 Which, by the way, that...

Speaker 1 We're still waiting.

Speaker 2 It could happen at any second.

Speaker 1 Anytime. Anytime.

Speaker 2 That's the thing about it. But with the shoulder, he's got like a fracture where it pops back in, like at the very tip of the upper arm or whatever that thing's called.

Speaker 2 So it sounds to me like it's an injury that he's had.

Speaker 2 I know he says it's a new one, but you get that injury when your shoulder pops out and then it pops back in, which is exactly how he hurt his shoulder previously.

Speaker 1 It also sounds like Deshaun Watson is going to be in the running for worst contracts of all time. Yeah, I would.
$100 million guaranteed, has not been able to stay on the field.

Speaker 1 The Browns have a roster that is Super Bowl worthy, and now he's missing the rest of the year, and they're going to be having to fend off the AFC North with DTR or PJ Walker.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I have an idea for their offense because the running game's good. The defense is like one of the best that we've ever seen.

Speaker 2 But as far as passing the ball, what if they just put Miles Garrett in at tight end or receiver?

Speaker 1 David Joke is pretty damn good.

Speaker 2 But wait, here's the twist to it. You throw a jump ball, you let the safety intercept it, and then Miles Garrett comes down and hits the safety as hard as he can force the fight.
Positive yards.

Speaker 2 Positive yards every time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this game is,

Speaker 1 I don't know what to think about it because I feel like the Steelers, like, they can't really move the ball, especially against a good Browns defense.

Speaker 1 The Browns are not going to be able to move the ball with DTR. They're going to load up the box.
It's going to be ugly. It is.

Speaker 1 One of the lowest totals we've had in the last 10 years. The only one lower was actually the grapple game, St.

Speaker 1 Browns. So right now, I think it's sitting at 33, which is crazy for an NFL game.

Speaker 2 That is wild.

Speaker 1 And I think

Speaker 1 if you put a gun in my head and was like, which side are you going to pick? It would be the under. You can't take the over in this game.

Speaker 2 No, you can't. I probably will, just as a personal challenge, but you can't.
You can't. The normal person would not.

Speaker 1 You should not. You should not.
I'm not endorsement. It's 32 and a half.
It's 32 and a half right now.

Speaker 2 You know what? The Steelers are Nate Diaz.

Speaker 2 You just get the shit kicked out of them for like three quarters, and they get stronger as they get worse.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they just want to be down going into the fourth quarter by one score, and they're in a perfect spot.

Speaker 2 Give them a shot.

Speaker 1 Excuse me. I also have a really sad stat for the Browns.

Speaker 1 In the last decade, this is the 55th time they're starting a backup quarterback. That is very sad.
And it's even sadder than that because for two straight years, Baker Mayfield made every start.

Speaker 2 Yep.

Speaker 1 So it's really like eight years and 55 times they've had a backup,

Speaker 1 not their week one starter, start a game. That's pretty remarkable.

Speaker 2 Do you think people are coming around to the take that Baker Mayfield was the best thing that's ever happened to the Browns and they should never have let him go?

Speaker 1 So Browns fans, I think, are thinking that, but more than that, and

Speaker 1 this is now, I think, there's multiple teams who are having the same thought. Giants, Jets, Browns.
Browns have a real case for it. Why did they get rid of Josh Dobbs? Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's like, there are so many teams right now being like, Josh Dobbs could fix all of our problems. He could.

Speaker 1 If the Jets had Josh Dobbs, they would be a playoff team.

Speaker 2 I would say with Josh Dobbs right now, the Browns would have more wins than they do with Deshaun Deshaun Watson playing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so, and they had him on the roster, I think, all the way up until August, right? Yep. So that's, Josh Dobbs is basically the guy that everyone looks to and it's like, he could solve everything.

Speaker 2 Yep. You see, they dusted off the old what if Tom Brady comes back take?

Speaker 2 For the Browns? For the Browns, yeah.

Speaker 2 You think Tom Brady would want to live in Cleveland, Hank?

Speaker 1 No. Why not?

Speaker 7 I don't even, I mean, he's, it's been a while since he's played.

Speaker 2 I actually think that if LeBron played quarterback for the Browns, they would be better.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they just run Wildcat. Yeah.

Speaker 1 DTR.

Speaker 1 Sorry, I have a cough. I can't get rid of.
It's like a small cough. I'm not sick, but I can't.
It's like when you get something stuck in your throat, cough. I can't get rid of it.

Speaker 1 I'm going to try to cough really loud. What are you looking at, Max?

Speaker 1 There we go. Yeah, it doesn't always feel good.
No, I ate a dumpling a minute ago, and it's fucking stuck in my throat.

Speaker 8 It ain't no fun when the rabbits got the gum.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's fair. That's fair.
That's fair. Okay.
Josh Todds would fix everything.

Speaker 2 What kind of dumpling did you eat?

Speaker 1 Donnie made them. Damn, that sounds good.
We're getting Chinese in a minute anyway.

Speaker 1 Uber Eats.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 this game's going to stink, but I'm going to love it.

Speaker 2 I think it's going to stink in a very Steelers way. Yeah.
You know what?

Speaker 3 And a Browns.

Speaker 2 This should actually be a game where the Steelers should outgame the Browns.

Speaker 2 They should on paper. Because

Speaker 2 the Steelers have kind of fucked themselves because their defense is so good that they usually don't have a full field to work with, even if they go kick a field goal.

Speaker 2 So now they can put together a drive from like their own maybe 35-yard line and just go kick a field goal. That's positive yards every single time.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 As opposed to just getting the ball on the 35-yard line and kicking from right there.

Speaker 1 This is one of those games that if someone has 10 points, it's going to feel like an insurmountable leap. It is.

Speaker 2 If you're drunk enough, the Steelers are going to look like Iowa this weekend. Yeah.
And shout out to the...

Speaker 1 And the Browns will probably look like Nebraska. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Shout out to Danny Smith. Danny Smith, all-time football guy, special teams coach of the Steelers.
You remember on the last play, they intercepted it, ran to the sidelines? Yes. And a coach fell over.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he got just absolutely

Speaker 2 bundled. That was Danny Smith.
Danny Smith, you might recognize he's the shorter guy who's always chewing like twice the amount of gum that Pete Carroll is. All-time

Speaker 2 gum guy. So he tore every muscle in his rotator cup.
Oh, my God. Pop back up.
He's staying on the sidelines. You can't get that guy.

Speaker 1 And Deshaun isn't playing?

Speaker 2 And Deshaun's not playing. Danny Smith's shoulder could fall apart at any given moment.
And Deshaun's not playing. And Deshaun's not playing.

Speaker 1 Jake, you're nerd nugget.

Speaker 6 Pittsburgh's 28 victories and one score game since the start of the 2020 season are tied for the most in the NFL.

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 6 Also, it's a shame that PJ Walker's not playing because he tweeted, can't wait to meet you, baby girl.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 2 oh, so he's going to be.

Speaker 1 I think I might bet him still because he's the backup.

Speaker 1 They might.

Speaker 2 Odds are going to be juicy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 So something to keep an eye on if he plays the rest of the season.

Speaker 7 Okay.

Speaker 1 That's a good way. Now, is the baby born? I don't know.
I think that's a pregnancy announcement.

Speaker 2 Oh, he's just bragging he had sex. Yeah.
They might not even know that they're pregnant.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Can't wait to meet my daughter.

Speaker 1 Her water broke and he tweeted it. I don't think you tweet when the water breaks.
Oh

Speaker 1 No, okay, so maybe he's gonna be a dad. Yeah, that's like a nerve-wracking time.
We're like, hope the baby comes out okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, not like let me take it to Twitter and be like, can't wait to meet you in like two hours if everything goes okay. That's fair.
Yeah. All right.
Raiders at Dolphins threw this on there.

Speaker 1 Antonio Pierce. Got the Raiders 2-0 in his interim head coaching.
They did beat Tommy DeVito and Zach Wilson.

Speaker 1 And now we have Miami off a buy.

Speaker 2 So what you're saying is the Raiders might be frauds.

Speaker 1 The Raiders are not good. I am,

Speaker 1 so I'm ready, I think, and it is just a theory.

Speaker 1 I think I'm ready to take Miami off the fraud list.

Speaker 1 They won't do it this week, but I'm gearing up for them to be off the fraud list because I'm thinking that their defense is going to start playing really well.

Speaker 1 Vic Fangio, you know, a couple months under the belt. Jalen Ramsey back.
Guys healthy.

Speaker 1 I'm now on take Miami off fraud watch, fraud watch.

Speaker 2 Interesting. So what do they have to do against the Raiders, though?

Speaker 1 They got to beat the Raiders by 21 plus.

Speaker 2 And they have to, if they hold the Raiders to under 10 points.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I looked at their schedule. They have the Jets on Black Friday, which I would remind Miami fans that I said that the Jets would beat the Dolphins at that time.
I no longer think that.

Speaker 1 And then they have Christmas Eve. They play the Cowboys.
And then I think the week 17, they play the Ravens. So those are their last two chances to fully get off Fraud Watch.

Speaker 1 But I'm ishing to get them off Frod Watch. I think they're going to start turning the defense around and the defense is going to start playing really well.
And with that offense, I'm ready. I'm ready.

Speaker 1 I'm feeling like I'm going to push the button and say no longer fraud.

Speaker 2 I read an article. It was basically a long profile of Mike McDaniel.
And goddamn, do I love that guy?

Speaker 2 He just seems like the best dude ever. And he went up to the podium the other day, and they were talking about how it was raining.

Speaker 2 And like one of the journalists said, like, with all this rain that we're getting, and he's like, oh, it's raining? How fortuitous for Earth.

Speaker 2 He's like Mitch Hedberg, if you gave him a head coach.

Speaker 1 Little one-liners?

Speaker 2 Little one-liners here and there. Big news for the Dolphins, though.
Tua got his hair dead. He did.

Speaker 1 He looks like fucking Drake.

Speaker 2 Yes, per our colleague Nikki Smokes on Twitter. RQB is fucking Drake.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Huge news.

Speaker 2 Tua Lee. Huge news.

Speaker 1 McDaniel's

Speaker 2 McDaniel. This is confusing.
I don't care.

Speaker 1 I'm glad. I don't say that.
I don't care.

Speaker 2 I'm glad that the Raiders fired McDaniel.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'll say whatever I want to say.

Speaker 1 McDaniel McDaniels,

Speaker 1 he also, there was a reporter who asked about A-Chain, and he was like, well, how much money you got in fantasy? And just flipped it on him.

Speaker 2 I think he's going to play, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And another reason to maybe get them off Fraud Watch.
I'm feeling it. I'm feeling it.
The Raiders are not good.

Speaker 2 But they're 2-0 under the new version of the Raiders.

Speaker 1 The new Looks Tommy DeVito and Zach Wilson.

Speaker 2 Yes, true. The new Look Raiders.
Antonio

Speaker 2 is the he's the only Antonio to ever coach in the NFL. Oh.
How about that? So Antonios are 1,000% in winning percentage.

Speaker 1 Antonios, stand up. You'll get a lot of Antonios.

Speaker 2 You don't. It's a powerful.

Speaker 1 Antony or Anthony. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Jake, your nerd nugget.

Speaker 6 This is a good one.

Speaker 1 Oh, let us be the judge. Okay.

Speaker 6 Since the start of last season, the Dolphins are 6-0 and have averaged 41 points per game with Kevin Harlan on the call.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 6 Tuatunga Valoa has thrown 20 touchdown passes, averaging 332 yards per game, and he returns to the booth in Miami this week.

Speaker 1 I thought they never won with Kevin Harlan. That was Frank's thought.

Speaker 6 They put up 70.

Speaker 6 They put up points.

Speaker 2 It doesn't make sense at all. Frank told me otherwise.

Speaker 1 Dolphins might be good. They might be off fraud wash.
Yeah, Kevin Harlan. 53rd man.
Yeah. 54th man.
Here's a stinky game. Giants and Commanders.

Speaker 2 Yeah, very stinky. Tommy DeVito.
We get to watch Tommy DeVito again.

Speaker 2 I've become accustomed to

Speaker 2 the insult graphic that goes around about the former NFL coaches or the former Washington coaches that are now head coaches in the NFL, where you have LaFleur, McVay, McDaniel now, Kyle Shanahan, and then now people are saying that the coordinator Sloick from the Texans is going to be on that list.

Speaker 2 I don't know what happened to make it go reviral again, but now it's everywhere. Like every major news publication is talking about it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 2 You know what? Our head coach was Mike Shanahan. You think they were going to fire Mike Shanahan and then promote Kyle Shanahan to be the head coach?

Speaker 2 That wasn't going to happen, but I have to deal with more of this bullshit, which is fine.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, I was going to say the one person you can't, I can't give you sympathy because literally every, I think the CBS sports account lives, like their entire social media plan is to insult the Bears.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that is true. They do the 4,000-yard passer.

Speaker 1 They do the receivers. They do everything.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but I don't know who started it this week, but it came out of nowhere. It's usually CBS Sports.
Yes, like Sports Center's on it, ESPN's all. It's weird that they're taking this week to do do it.

Speaker 2 But at least we get Tommy DeVito this weekend. He's going to be fun to watch.
Tommy DeVito,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 1 Good job, Tommy.

Speaker 2 Yeah, there was a...

Speaker 1 I don't really have anything to say about Tommy DeVito other than I'm rooting for him, I think.

Speaker 2 So they did a profile on him, and they asked him what his favorite food was. What do you think Tommy DeVito's favorite food is? Well, it's chicken palm.
It's chicken parm. Yeah, it's chicken.

Speaker 2 Chicken parm with vodka sauce. Yeah.
His hidden talent. What do you think his hidden talent is?

Speaker 1 Chicken beef balls.

Speaker 2 That's racist.

Speaker 1 Throwing.

Speaker 2 No, it's not.

Speaker 1 Not throwing anything.

Speaker 2 No, it's making art. That's what you say if you're really good at art.

Speaker 1 Well, if you watch a Tommy DeVito, listen, Beauty's in the Eye of the Beholder, a Tommy DeVito quarterback game could be considered art.

Speaker 2 That's true. Favorite movies? What do you think his favorite movies are? Goodfellow.

Speaker 1 Fellas.

Speaker 2 No, no, no.

Speaker 1 Good fellow.

Speaker 2 Too fast.

Speaker 2 Too fast, too furious, and bad boys. Actually, great taste from Tommy DeVito.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 Fantastic taste. And if he gets three dinner guests, who do you think he'd want to invite?

Speaker 7 James Gandalfini. Yeah.

Speaker 2 No, it's Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, Al Capone, and Floyd Mayweather. Oh.

Speaker 2 Money, money, money.

Speaker 1 Love that.

Speaker 2 Love that.

Speaker 1 Also, I think the commanders are going to win this game.

Speaker 1 I do think there's the ability that this game could be just some fuck shit happening like the last one where the commanders, the Giants didn't score for the last 38 minutes of the game and won 14-7.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But Sam Howell, the Giants game, that game, I bring it up because that might have been the tipping point for him.

Speaker 1 He took six sacks in that game. Since then, the last three games, he had seven total.
So maybe that was the game that he's like, hey, I should stop doing this.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he's got a lot better at staying in the pocket just the right amount of time and getting rid of the ball.

Speaker 2 But I'm not. I'm by no means confident.
I think the commanders are nine and a half, 10-point favorites, right?

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 2 They should not be nine and a half point favorites to anybody.

Speaker 2 I don't care who's playing quarterback. I see.

Speaker 1 It's nine right now. Nine right now.

Speaker 2 Okay. Well, it's coming.
Yeah. So it's trending in the the correct direction, I believe.

Speaker 2 I'm not confident in this game. Like, anybody, either one of these two teams could win.
I think we're going to win.

Speaker 1 Could be some fuck shit.

Speaker 2 But I would not be shocked if the Giants ended up winning.

Speaker 1 Yes. Nerd nugget.

Speaker 6 First off, I'd like to correct myself. That stat with Kevin Harlan was with two of us starting.

Speaker 1 Okay. Dolphins were wrong.
That was

Speaker 6 the concussion game. The way that the guy made fun of me.
Dolphins Jets.

Speaker 2 Oh, concussion fingers.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That was funny when that guy did that.
No, it wasn't. Yeah, it was.

Speaker 6 So that's the one game with Kevin Harlan the last two years years where they lost. But that doesn't count with the two of stats.

Speaker 6 Anyways, Commanders quarterback Sam Howell has thrown for 2,952 yards so far this season, the most by a Washington quarterback through 11 career games, more than 500 yards roughly, then second place on that list, Robert Griffin the third.

Speaker 1 Sam Howell.

Speaker 6 By far the best 11-game quarterback in Washington history.

Speaker 2 I might have just jumped past the whole, is he the guy conversation? I'm ready to ask if he's elite.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 2 as many insult graphics have been going around,

Speaker 2 there's a lot of complimentary graphics going around about Sam Howell. Elites.
He's first and big-time throws.

Speaker 2 Do you know what a big-time throw is?

Speaker 1 Elites, yeah, it's a big-time throw. I actually throw it big time.

Speaker 2 When you throw it big time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think it's over 20 yards.

Speaker 2 I don't know what the actual definition is.

Speaker 2 But goddamn,

Speaker 2 when like Pro Football Focus says he's first and big time throws, I'm like, that's a great stat.

Speaker 1 Big time throw.

Speaker 1 Okay, next up, Chargers and Packers. I hate this game so much because the Packers are bad, but the Chargers shouldn't be favored on the road road against anyone.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I was looking at this and I was like,

Speaker 2 are we still giving the Chargers credit for being the Chargers?

Speaker 1 It's crazy.

Speaker 1 I know the Chargers are better than the Packers, but if you tell me you have to put your life on the line for the Chargers to be able to maneuver a road game and win by exactly three or more,

Speaker 1 I couldn't do that. No, no.

Speaker 1 Something weird is going to happen.

Speaker 2 This might be the most lopsided fan-to-fan ratio of all time. Do you think there are any Chargers fans that are making the trip to Green Bay for this game?

Speaker 1 Probably not. I think there's.

Speaker 1 No, people still go to like, people still like to go to Lambeau. I think the most.
Cathedral? Yeah, I think the weirdest fan-to-fan would have to be like Chargers Panthers. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Where it's like, I don't really care about seeing this stadium.

Speaker 1 Like, if you're a Chargers fan, you definitely circle the schedule and be like, this one, let's go take a trip to Lambeau.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's Lambo, but it's also mid-November. It's right before Thanksgiving.
I think there's a lot of stuff adding up against the Chargers on that.

Speaker 2 I would be shocked if there were more than 500 Chargers fans that, like, true Chargers fans from out of town that make this trip.

Speaker 1 Yeah, or like trying to think what other ones.

Speaker 2 Maybe Chargers Vikings.

Speaker 1 You're like Cardinals Bills.

Speaker 1 Yeah. How many Cardinals fans would go to Buffalo? Like if they played in December.

Speaker 2 I bet you there are a lot of people that are Cardinals fans that are from Buffalo that retired and moved to Arizona, though.

Speaker 1 I feel like they go to Florida. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I feel like East Coast, Florida, and then everything west.

Speaker 2 Maybe Chargers. Arizona.
Chargers

Speaker 2 Giants. Probably not a lot of people.

Speaker 1 Chargers,

Speaker 1 but then you're going to New York City.

Speaker 2 It's a direct flight.

Speaker 1 You got to think of the places that have nothing.

Speaker 1 You're like, I got to go to this place. I got to go to this game.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I wonder what that would be. Maybe it might be Chargers Commanders.

Speaker 1 I think Chargers Panthers. Yeah.
Chargers Panthers feels like, who wants to go to... That stadium is even boring.

Speaker 2 Yeah, if you're a Chargers fan that's going going to this game, like traveling specifically to Green Bay for this game, let us know. Hit us up.
Very interested in

Speaker 2 learning about you. Yes.

Speaker 1 All right, nerd nugget for this game.

Speaker 6 Packers quarterback Jordan Love leads the NFL in completions of 30-plus yards this season with 17. Matthew Stafford got 16.
Sam Howell and Brock Purdy right behind with 14.

Speaker 1 Oh, that sounds like a pretty good stat. Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. Next up, Bears at Lions.
Justin Fields is back.

Speaker 1 That's all I got. That's it.
No, I have more, but

Speaker 1 I have some things that I shouldn't believe in, but I do.

Speaker 1 The Bears are not as bad as people think they are.

Speaker 1 They're the worst teams in the league, which are the Panthers, the Giants, maybe the Patriots,

Speaker 1 the Cardinals, now the Kyler's back, maybe not.

Speaker 1 I think the Bears are a step above that. They get lumped in there.
They've actually been playing really good defense.

Speaker 1 The last five weeks, their run D is ranked one. Their total yards against is ranked sixth.
Their explosive plays against is ranked first,

Speaker 1 and their third down percentage is 12th. Like, they're playing good defense.

Speaker 1 Justin Fields playing competent offense will be the big question mark, and obviously the Lions are much better all over the field, but like the Bears aren't as bad as I probably say they are, and the media says they are.

Speaker 1 I would agree with that. They're just a little bit better than really, really bad.

Speaker 2 Their defense is good enough to not get totally embarrassed anymore. At the start of the season, they were bad.
They were very, very bad.

Speaker 1 They were very, very bad. Now, what are they?

Speaker 2 Three and three in their last six?

Speaker 1 Three and three in their last six. And this is the part that makes me nervous because I am nervous that if their defense plays well and keeps playing well, that they're going to keep Matt Eberflues.

Speaker 2 I don't think so. He's so weird.
Have you ever, I know that we've said a lot of things about Eberflues on this show. He's Dweeberfluce.
Have we ever talked about just how weird he is?

Speaker 1 He's just weird looking.

Speaker 2 He's just a strange guy. He's a cat guy.
They asked him, yeah, that's a great way to describe him. All you need to know.
He's a cat guy.

Speaker 2 After the game against the Panthers, they were like, what do you have up your sleeve? Or what do you have up your sleeve? He's like, what do you have up your sleeve? Yeah.

Speaker 2 And then he laughed like he was the joker.

Speaker 1 He's a weird guy. He also, if they keep Matt Eberflues and then draft a new quarterback, that will be,

Speaker 1 I think it's 25 years going right now that the Bears have never had a coach, quarterback on the same

Speaker 1 wavelength. Timeline? Timeline, like bring a new coach, bring a new quarterback, same time.

Speaker 2 I don't think there's any chance they keep Eberflues.

Speaker 1 Their defense is playing well. What if they beat the Lions? I don't think they will, but what if?

Speaker 2 What if they demote him to defensive coordinator and then bring in a Hague? I'd be fine with that.

Speaker 1 He is the coordinator right now.

Speaker 2 I feel like he'd stay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, he is the defensive coordinator. And so his defense is our defensive coordinator left, and no one knows why.

Speaker 1 I do know why. It's very funny, I won't say.
Oh, come on. I'll tell you after.
Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Well, shit. Do you know why the running back guy left?

Speaker 1 That one I do know as well. It's also

Speaker 1 not as funny. Okay.

Speaker 1 Both aren't really, I wouldn't say either are funny. Uh-huh.
They're funny in like the Bears are a joke of a franchise.

Speaker 2 The defensive coordinator was using the women's bathroom and refused to stop.

Speaker 1 No. Okay.

Speaker 2 That would be funny, though.

Speaker 1 I was sworn to secrecy. I also like, there was so much weird shit that was said during that that I don't want to say anything publicly because then like, what if I'm wrong? And then

Speaker 1 also in the weird shit, like the whole FBI and all that stuff.

Speaker 2 Who the fuck knows? On the Lions side, you know, Malcolm Russell.

Speaker 1 I also don't even know. I just said that to say, to sound cool.

Speaker 1 you gotta be going yeah um i did that on i i yeah i was just like i've been telling people like yeah i know why you know why and then trying to get them to tell me why but i don't know why it's old trick hank you got me you you think i knew yeah yeah that was a good prank yeah still do part of the deal um learn it read it rodrigo you remember him from hard knocks yeah middle linebacker on the lions you know he switched to fullback No.

Speaker 2 So this is what the Lions did. So they had Cabinda at fullback, and then he got injured, and then they just took another linebacker because Cabinda was also a linebacker that got moved.

Speaker 2 So now Rodrigo is playing fullback, and he's like one of the better fullbacks in the league right now. That guy's a dog.
He's a dog. Absolute dog.

Speaker 1 Total dog.

Speaker 2 Oh, we should, when should we drop the watch list for the lowman trophy? You want to do that next week?

Speaker 1 Should we wait till the after the season?

Speaker 2 No, the watch list, though. Oh.
All the watch lists are coming out right now. So like the Heisman watch list.
Oh, okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 Then we do it next week.

Speaker 2 We'll do that for the

Speaker 2 lowman trophy. Yeah.
So yeah, dipe up. Get your diaper on if you're a Lions fan this weekend.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't think the Bears are going to win, but their defense is playing better, and I want to give them credit for being not as bad as the worst. That's really what it is.
That's baby steps. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No longer the worst.

Speaker 2 Their defense is actually good. They have a good defense now.

Speaker 1 There's like, I have this dumpling in my throat. Can you get me another water, Hank?

Speaker 1 There's five teams that I would say the Bears could confidently beat four teams the Bears could confidently beat

Speaker 2 Cardinals,

Speaker 2 Panthers, Panthers, Giants,

Speaker 1 there's water right there. There's water right there.
Giants.

Speaker 2 Commanders. They did beat you.
You beat us.

Speaker 1 Raiders. Yep.
If Josh McDaniels was still the coach, kick the shit out of him.

Speaker 2 What about the Rams?

Speaker 1 I have a thought on the Rams when we get to it. Okay.

Speaker 1 Jake.

Speaker 6 Nerd Nugget of the Week.

Speaker 2 That's the sound that we're doing, Jake?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just made it up.

Speaker 1 New jingle. Okay.

Speaker 2 That was the.

Speaker 10 like the breaking news jingle.

Speaker 2 What instrument was that? I don't know.

Speaker 6 It's just like when you watch TV, it's like

Speaker 2 Is that the sound that they used to make when like knights would come into the arena?

Speaker 1 Oh, it's thought of it. I'm mad that I was drinking some water and I couldn't react.

Speaker 2 I was shocked by it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I've never. I didn't hear it.
Do it again for Hank.

Speaker 1 Nerd nugget of the week.

Speaker 2 You did your own. Hank likes it.
You did your own entrance music.

Speaker 1 I don't know if Hank likes it.

Speaker 1 Not at all.

Speaker 1 Hank gave me a look when it happened that would suggest strongly otherwise.

Speaker 2 Hank was great.

Speaker 1 Hank's headnog was

Speaker 1 that's a thing.

Speaker 6 I'll have some AWLs who like it.

Speaker 1 Okay. And some people hate it.
But hey, that's podcasting. Yeah, that is.
People love it. Some people hate it.

Speaker 6 That's a fact, Jake. For the first time since 1979, three pairs of brothers are set to appear in the same NFL game.
Amon Ra and Equinimia St. Brown, Romeo and Julian Aquara, and Penaya Noah Sewell.

Speaker 1 Whoa,

Speaker 2 that is wild, Jake.

Speaker 6 That is actually why it's the nerd nugget of the week. It is very cool.

Speaker 2 Do you think when they named them Romeo and Julian, that's like a little bit weird?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, they expected it to be a girl. Yeah, for sure.
Fuck.

Speaker 2 It's like maybe they'll still fall in love.

Speaker 1 We only had one name.

Speaker 6 I was supposed to be Jackie if I was a girl.

Speaker 1 Jackie? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Now we're just going to have to call her.

Speaker 1 Jackie Marsh.

Speaker 2 I'd fuck you. I kind of like Jackie.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm thinking about it. I mean, I was a woman

Speaker 6 in the commercial. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you look good. Yeah, I'd fuck you for sure.
Jackie Marsh. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I think that's a pretty sick nerd nugget. Yeah, that is.

Speaker 2 So three brothers, huh?

Speaker 6 Same field. Three brothers.
Assuming they're all in the active roster, but it's like saving prior to.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I was going to say, if two of them get injured, we got to get this

Speaker 2 out.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, next game. Cowboys at Panthers.
All I wrote for this game is maybe take the Panthers question mark.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so my only note on this game was we've got a coach taking back play calling duties last year because Frank Reich, much like Mike McCarthy used to do,

Speaker 2 you pass around the play calling duties like it's the talking stick when it's your turn to speak, whenever your job is somewhat in jeopardy.

Speaker 2 So he gave the play calling duties to their offensive coordinator, and then that's not working out so well. So he's taking it back to fix the team.

Speaker 2 This is...

Speaker 1 Did you see the picture of Frank Reich, his opening press conference, and now today, and he is aged in presidential years?

Speaker 2 It's so bad. It's bad.
Dog years. That's David Tepper.

Speaker 1 And David Tepper also had a very bizarre, i don't know where he was speaking it was like he was like at the side of maybe the podium or something talking about the draft day trade and how there was a trade for them to be the second pick with houston three-way trade with chicago and then he's like but then we decided to go one essentially saying like he's trying to cover up the fact that maybe they didn't want bryce young but i the whole thing is confusing it sounds like he just is an idiot and Houston was like, wait, they're going to take Bryce Young.

Speaker 1 We can just not trade.

Speaker 2 Yeah, there were all sorts of stories that came out as the draft was happening of why they like Bryce Young. Again, it's the scallops dinner.

Speaker 2 They went to dinner, and they were super impressed with this young man. So then the owner, Tepper, was like, yeah, I want this guy.
This is a guy I can build around.

Speaker 2 And I'm almost ready to say, like, I know that we've been comparing Stroud to Bryce Young this entire season, and that's going to happen for the rest of their careers no matter what.

Speaker 2 But, like, give, I want to see Bryce Young play somewhere fun. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I'm now mad at the Panthers for potential, or not, maybe not the organization as a whole, but like Reich for sure, of making this potentially fun guy not as fun to watch. So

Speaker 1 this is not a fun place for Bryce Young to play, but I had a thought, shower thought, dumb thought.

Speaker 1 What if the Bears traded the Panthers number one pick back for Bryce Young and Brian Burns and next year's number one from the Panthers? I like that. So

Speaker 1 the Bears got Bryce Young. I just was thinking about it.
It's kind of like

Speaker 1 a toddler. You give a toddler a piece of candy and like they won't eat it right away because they're like, I want to hold the candy.
I want to see the candy. If I eat the candy, the candy's gone.

Speaker 1 That's how I'm feeling about having two number one picks. I don't ever want to not have two number one picks.
I want to have two number one picks for the rest of my life.

Speaker 1 So I don't want to use both of them. I want to trade and get another one and just keep...
kicking the can down the road and having two number one picks. It's so fun having two number one picks.

Speaker 2 And you're also seeing another kid holding like black licorice and they're like, ooh, this is so gross. But you see another kid holding a piece of candy, you're like, I want that.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So I wonder what that candy's.

Speaker 1 That's my thoughts on draft picks. But yeah, David Tepper, he also had the awkward moment where a boss that's a piece of shit like makes a joke and everyone has to laugh.

Speaker 1 So he was like, yeah, we were going to do the trade, the three-way trade on Wednesday. And, you know, I'm impatient.
I'm from a world of trading.

Speaker 1 So I was just texting our GM over and over, like, when's the trade again?

Speaker 1 And the GM had to like laugh and be like, haha, yeah, you did do that. My fucking life sucks.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he seems like a miserable guy to work for. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just stroke that, those brass balls.

Speaker 2 If you're looking at the Mount Rushmore of ways that coaches try to save their job mid-season,

Speaker 2 it's got to be one, like benching a quarterback, right? Yeah. That's got to be the first.
Taking

Speaker 2 passing play calling duty is probably number one.

Speaker 1 I think that's first. You think that's number one? I think benching a quarterback is usually last resort or one of the last resorts.

Speaker 2 What about firing your offensive coordinator?

Speaker 1 That is definitely one of them.

Speaker 2 Definitely one.

Speaker 1 Firing anyone on the staff is one of them. Like you, special teams coach.
Yeah. We got to change something.

Speaker 2 Frank Reich, he should coach from the booth. He should be head coach from the booth.

Speaker 1 Just move up there. Or just not even head coach.

Speaker 2 Honestly, coaching from a booth would kick ass.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you could see everything, all 22.

Speaker 2 And you get your dip cup right there. You got your Diet Cokes.
Hang out.

Speaker 1 Be like, oh, can't come down at halftime.

Speaker 2 Too long. The bathroom's right there.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Way better. Way better.

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah, so I don't know.

Speaker 1 I think maybe I'll end up taking the Cowboys, but

Speaker 1 the thought crossed my mind, maybe I'd take the Panthers.

Speaker 2 This seems like one of those games where the Cowboys just beat the shit out of an inferior opponent.

Speaker 1 They like to to do that. All right, Jake.

Speaker 6 Dallas is the only team in the NFL this season with three 40-point games. Since head coach Mike McCarthy arrived in 2020, the Cowboys have the most 40-point games among NFL teams with 14 of them.

Speaker 1 14th. 14 since 2020.

Speaker 2 Raise the banner. 44.

Speaker 6 40-plus.

Speaker 1 It's a lot.

Speaker 1 That's a lot of Super Bowls, right? Ton.

Speaker 2 What do you think about the conversation going on out there about that we should use that same energy every time Josh Allen throws an interception as we did when Dak threw interceptions last season.

Speaker 1 I would say that we're biased.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I would say. I would agree with that.

Speaker 1 That would be my counterpoint.

Speaker 2 We're biased.

Speaker 2 Josh's interceptions just look cooler.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean, come on.

Speaker 1 Yeah. They look awesome.
Josh has also won a playoff game. Has Dak won a playoff game? Wait, did he? He did.
Yeah. And they beat the Bucks.
Oh, yeah, they beat the Bucs. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Josh has won two playoff games.

Speaker 2 How many NFC championship games has Dak been?

Speaker 1 Josh has won two playoff games, right? Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Josh has won multiple playoffs.

Speaker 2 Also, Josh has been throwing interceptions since day one. Yeah, that's kind of his thing.

Speaker 1 Right. Josh, you know, Josh is going to throw interceptions.
Yeah, you just

Speaker 2 hope that the cool shit that he does that's not an interception is way cooler than the interceptions are.

Speaker 1 Dak doesn't throw interceptions against bad teams, and then when he plays a good team, he's like, fuck, I'm going to throw an interception. Yeah.
Like, up

Speaker 1 again.

Speaker 2 When he throws interceptions, the cool shit that he does afterwards isn't cool enough to outweigh the interceptions. Yes.

Speaker 1 Yes. So that's easy.
And we're biased. We're very biased.
All right. Titans at Jaguars.
I think this is a get-right for the Jaguars. I think we're going to kill the Titans.
I was looking at it.

Speaker 1 The Will Levis, who we believe in,

Speaker 1 he went up against the Falcons, the Steelers, the Bucs, all bottom of the half in the league in terms of coverage.

Speaker 1 Now they're going up against the Jaguars, who are actually good in coverage this year. I think it's going to be a long day for the Titans.
I think the Jaguars, this is kind of a who are we game.

Speaker 1 Like, we got embarrassed by the Niners. Who are we?

Speaker 2 Trevor's injured. That news came out this week.
His knee?

Speaker 1 Yeah, Doug Peterson. I never heard it in the Saints game.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Doug Peterson mentioned it specifically. He's like, we're limited in what Trevor can do because of his knee.

Speaker 2 So I guess it's worse than we had all thought, which would make sense because Trevor hasn't been playing

Speaker 2 exceptionally well this season. Yeah.
He's been okay.

Speaker 2 And he always, the thing about Trevor Lawrence is, even if he's injured, he just looks like a quarterback so much that you're like, okay, this guy's still good. But apparently he's been injured.

Speaker 2 My only note on this is that, one, Mike Vrabel has been taking drills this week. He's been putting, He's been

Speaker 2 taking part of the drills, so you know that's great. And then also, this should be a Thursday night game against Jaguars.
We should get one of those every week.

Speaker 1 It should be a late December Thursday night game. Yep.

Speaker 1 Okay, nerd nugget for this game.

Speaker 6 The Titans are the only team in the AFC who are still winless away from home this season. And in those six losses, they're averaging just 12 points per game.
Yikes.

Speaker 1 Their off-roads are tough to watch.

Speaker 1 Their offense is tough to watch.

Speaker 1 Okay, this is going to be a fun game. Cardinals and Texans.

Speaker 1 Kyler Murray looked really good for someone who hadn't played football for a year.

Speaker 2 He was very fast.

Speaker 1 We were all kind of shocked. I thought there was going to be a lot more rust.
CJ Stroud is incredible.

Speaker 1 I'm a little nervous about the Texans in this game because didn't it feel like the Texans were ⁇ we've been on the Texans being like, the Texans are good, the Texans are good, C.J. Stroud's good.

Speaker 1 The win against the Bengals, it hit that critical mass of now it's MVP for C.J. Stroud, Texans in the playoffs.
It might be a read-your-plus press clippings type of game.

Speaker 2 I would agree with that. When they started immediately after the game saying that C.J.
Stroud MVP, that's when I was like, if I had CJ Stroud stock right now,

Speaker 2 I wouldn't actually sell it, but I would look at the price and then put the map on the calculator and be like, man, if I sold this right now, it could be rich.

Speaker 1 That's the only thing that makes, I think the Texans will win, but that is the only thing that's making me nervous about this game.

Speaker 2 And the Cardinals get paid to play football, too. That's facts.
Those guys are pros.

Speaker 2 uh we also have stroud boys shirts live in the barstool store right now i'm gonna try to find it it's underneath find it find it now

Speaker 2 find it he's finding it he found it stroud boys shirts barstall sports nice find thank you stroud boys with the outline of texas how perfect is that show your support stand stand proud

Speaker 1 stand back stand by Throw it up there. Thanks, Max.

Speaker 2 Now I have two of them. Unbelievable.
Stroud Boys. Stroud Boys.

Speaker 1 Stroud Boys stand up. Nerd nugget for this game.

Speaker 6 With field goals of 51 and 56 yards last week, Cardinals kicker Matt Prater now owns the franchise record of 17 field goals of 50 plus yards,

Speaker 6 despite playing in just 40 games with Arizona. And he has 76 career field goals of 50 plus yards.
That's 18 more than any other player in NFL history. Damn.

Speaker 1 Great kicker. Great kicker.

Speaker 1 Damn. Who's kicking field?

Speaker 2 Wait, say that again, Jake?

Speaker 6 He has 18 more 50-yard field goals than any other player in NFL history.

Speaker 1 That's kind of insane.

Speaker 3 That is 76.

Speaker 1 That's a lot more 50-yard field goals.

Speaker 6 I think Vinatari is second or someone else.

Speaker 1 Or Justin Tucker.

Speaker 2 My guess is he would be 18 behind.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He'd probably be second. Yeah.
Yeah. That's nuts.
Okay. Good nerd nugget.
Thanks. Afternoon games.
Bucs at 49ers.

Speaker 1 I hope the 49ers kill him. I think they will.

Speaker 2 49ers are back. They are back.
They're so back.

Speaker 1 Turns out having your best players play helps.

Speaker 2 Did you see the replay when they put together the

Speaker 2 various clips of Trent Williams on that one play where he pulls out to the left and then the cornerback just runs away from him? He's a monster. He's like, no, I'm taking myself out of this play.

Speaker 2 I opt out. He's got cornerbacks opting out of plays instead of trying to actually make a tackle.

Speaker 1 When Trent Williams and Debo Samuel are on the field, I know, I think the problem is the 49ers have so many dudes that you think, oh, you lose these two guys, you're fine.

Speaker 1 But you also have to remember the drop-off of someone that good is going to be larger because he's that good.

Speaker 1 Like, the backup to Trent Williams, no offense to him. Trent Williams is the best.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Also, if you're the backup to Trenton Williams, you probably just think the entire game, like, fuck, I'm not as good as Trent Williams. Right.

Speaker 1 Like, what would Trent be doing? Like, I don't want to get in because then they're going to see I'm just, we're different like species.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you miss a block and you think you're so, man, Trent would have had that. He's

Speaker 2 so good. Yeah.
Also, Brock Purdy is back to being, I would say, top 10 quarterback. Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 1 Borderline elite.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Bucs just bum me out. I don't know.
Like, what do they do that makes you excited?

Speaker 2 Mike Evans. Mike Evans dropping a ball because he's thinking about which fan he's going to hand it to.
That's kind of cool.

Speaker 1 Mike Evans, Baker sometimes running around. Todd Bowles is a bummer.
Vita Vey is fun. Yeah, I just, the Bucs bum me out.

Speaker 2 Their offensive coordinator is like a little too attractive. Yeah.
They always show him in his tight shirt, showing everybody up.

Speaker 1 This is also biased because Stephen Che is so annoying. Yeah.
But, all right, nerd nugget.

Speaker 6 49ers running back Kristen McCaffrey is averaging 121 yards from scrimmage per game this season, second in the league, right behind Tyreek Hill.

Speaker 1 Ooh. That's pretty good yards.

Speaker 2 That's pretty damn good. He couldn't score a touchdown last week and get America Chicken.
I'm not going to forgive him for that.

Speaker 1 That hurt. Well, he would still have to do the dance.
Anyone could have gotten he worked. He would have.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but he was going to do the dance.

Speaker 1 You don't think he was going to do the dance? Why do you think he was going to do the dance?

Speaker 2 Wait, Jake, why do you think he doesn't like chicken?

Speaker 1 No, I

Speaker 6 think he does, but anyone could have done it. So why are you blaming him?

Speaker 2 He was going to do the dance. He was going to do the dance.

Speaker 1 He was 100% going to do the dance.

Speaker 2 I would have done the dance.

Speaker 1 I would have scored, and then I would have done the dance. Right.

Speaker 2 If you give me four opportunities from inside the 10-yard line, like he had at the end of the game, to score a touchdown, and you don't,

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 2 I would score at least two of those. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Oh, wait. Shake Shaq tweeted that Taylor Luan's chicken dance was good enough.
No.

Speaker 6 Done. We're now through 11-19.

Speaker 2 Taylor Luan?

Speaker 1 He did one, yeah.

Speaker 6 He did one from the busting with the boys account, and they said that's good enough for us. Free chicken shacks online.

Speaker 1 Let's go.

Speaker 2 The golf podcaster, Taylor Luan, did it?

Speaker 1 Yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 1 That's wild. Yeah.
Okay, sure. Let's go.
I don't know what has that. God, Taylor.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Jets at Bills. Memes.
Hello.

Speaker 2 Wait, Jake, do your entrance for memes.

Speaker 2 He gets the same entrance you do?

Speaker 2 I would think that

Speaker 2 if we're going to do a trombone as his entrance, it should just go.

Speaker 2 yeah the price is right yeah just imagine eeyore walking onto camera

Speaker 1 memes

Speaker 1 hank give us one

Speaker 1 okay thanks hank memes

Speaker 1 oh memes memes

Speaker 1 memes hello I didn't really have anything to ask you. I just wanted to see that you're paying attention.
I'm paying attention. Hello.
How are you feeling about this game?

Speaker 8 Izzy season.

Speaker 1 What? Izzy, the running back.

Speaker 11 Izzy? I can't pronounce his last name. Izzy?

Speaker 11 They released Michael Carter.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 6 And they're giving Izzy a shot.

Speaker 1 So is Brees Hall what?

Speaker 2 Brees Hall is still there, but it's.

Speaker 1 Why? Brees Hall is good. Brees Hall's amazing.
So then what do you think?

Speaker 5 Now Izzy steps in.

Speaker 1 To do what?

Speaker 11 He's going to be the second back.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 But that's not.

Speaker 1 Third. What about Dalvin Cook?

Speaker 9 I don't like Dalvin Cook.

Speaker 1 I know you don't, but like, what are we talking about?

Speaker 2 Memes, if we're talking about about the New York Jets, why would a borderline backup running back have anything to do with whether or not you'll be a better team this weekend?

Speaker 1 Because the Bills can't stop the run. But you just said

Speaker 1 the third string quarterback is

Speaker 1 your takeaway for this game. Izzy season.
Yeah, I mean, I'm going to have to bet him to score now. I'm going to have to bet on him to score.
Fucking A. Memes, you put us in a box.

Speaker 2 He's going to score. I mean, you guys do have Josh Allen's number.

Speaker 8 We do. I don't.

Speaker 5 The line on this game is scaring me a little bit.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 1 I love the Bills because the Jets feel so easy. Like, I looked at this and I counted it as a win because I was going to take the Jets.
And I was like, wait, what? You got it.

Speaker 1 You got to take the Bills.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the seven is scary.

Speaker 1 Seven scary memes. It's too many points.

Speaker 2 I'm going to declare that every game for the rest of the season is a must-win for the Bills. I would say so.
I think they need.

Speaker 1 They might be able to get one more loss.

Speaker 2 I'm going to say it's a must-win, though. You can't, the margin of error is too small.
It's a must-win.

Speaker 1 yeah they have to look good because it's it feels like i was uh just thinking about like sad bills fans walking out of the stadium dark out late game

Speaker 2 yeah you got to win this game you have to win this game that sucks doesn't it i i went outside i was out at the park with blake at 445 in the afternoon yesterday yeah and it was dark out it sucks it sucks just end this stupid charade

Speaker 1 I saw one person tag me and was like, Big Catch should have told you about this in Chicago. It's like, like, wait, in New York, it's dark at the exact same time.

Speaker 2 It actually gets dark earlier in Chicago.

Speaker 1 What are we talking about?

Speaker 2 All the buildings? Yeah. So the sun kind of sets.

Speaker 1 It's just

Speaker 1 changed the fucking

Speaker 1 whatever it's called. No, my problem.
Daylight savings? I can't remember. Is it daylight savings or is it the other thing?

Speaker 2 Daylight losings? No,

Speaker 1 what's the spring one? Leap back. What do we have to do? Not do daylight savings or do daylight savings?

Speaker 7 Not do.

Speaker 6 We want the one in the spring.

Speaker 1 No, I know, but do we do are we done with daylight savings or are we keeping it done done with it done okay great done with it i'm done with that shit

Speaker 1 it sucks like i know my my quarrel wait why is it called daylight savings when we don't save any daylight i don't know because i think when they put it in that's when we get more did we just lose daylight savings no it's it's the morning is when it gets the it's so fucking stupid it's the stupid farmers

Speaker 1 boss moved by the state of arizona yeah they just they do what they want yeah someone told me once it was was someone told me it was the farmers once. I'm just going to blame the farmers.

Speaker 1 Shout out the farmers. I like farmers, but this thing is stupid because they said farmers don't want to wake up and farm in the dark.
So now it gets light. The sunrise is 6.30, but it sets at 4.40.

Speaker 1 Who wouldn't want to take the sunrising at 7.30 and setting at 5.40? That's way better.

Speaker 2 It's so much better. And I know that we do have some farmers that listen.
So if you're out on your tractor, I love the, like, whenever they send a picture of them plowing the fields.

Speaker 1 Yeah, shout out them.

Speaker 2 I like that, but I would like you to explain to me how come we have to change our clocks just for you. Right.
I want to know that.

Speaker 1 Lights exist now.

Speaker 2 Yeah, just set up Christmas lights in your field. Everywhere.
Done.

Speaker 1 All right, yeah, I kind of like the Bills in this game only because of the spread. Like, it's scared me off the Jets.

Speaker 2 This does feel like

Speaker 2 everything inside the Bills facility this week was probably just straight business. Oh, yeah.
I think they're about that business this week.

Speaker 1 I also don't want to get my hopes up. I really don't because we can't score a touchdown.

Speaker 5 But if the Jets win and the Dolphins lose, Black Friday is for the first place in the division.

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 you're still thinking.

Speaker 6 Yeah, but Kevin Harlan's on the call for the Dolphins.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, the Dolphins are not going to lose to the Raiders memes.

Speaker 2 Anything could happen. I think it's time for an intervention.

Speaker 1 I mean, Izzy was really the rock bottom. Yeah.
Izzy was as low as he was.

Speaker 2 We can't score a touchdown.

Speaker 1 And Izzy's the Izzy.

Speaker 1 Again, I'm going to have to bet on him because you fucking said this guy's name, and now he's never going to score a touchdown. Probably won't be on a roster next year, but now I have to bet on him.

Speaker 1 No, he's a good running back, played Pitt.

Speaker 1 Okay, but if he's a good running back, why wasn't he playing?

Speaker 11 They signed Dalvin Cook.

Speaker 1 So memes. All right, Izzy.
Izzy's the guy. Izzy the guy.

Speaker 2 But do you really want to win this game? Like, you've already said that you don't want Aaron Rodgers back this year.

Speaker 2 I

Speaker 8 did say that, but

Speaker 1 the division. He's so confused.
He's so confused.

Speaker 2 The division is also right there if you win a couple games. He's so confused.

Speaker 1 Play the Dolphins twice.

Speaker 1 The Dolphins are not going to lose to the Raiders memes.

Speaker 1 Ain't O'Connell. Okay.

Speaker 2 AOC, you love her. OC.

Speaker 1 You sound like Max right now.

Speaker 1 I just want. I just want to play.
But like a shittier Max because Max does this, but his teams are good.

Speaker 8 Yeah, how are you comparing the Jets to the Eagles?

Speaker 1 Because you do this thing where you start...

Speaker 1 Oh, man. Regardless.

Speaker 1 You do the thing where you start talking yourself into circles, and then you get like confused with your own words.

Speaker 2 When you said that you remind me of Max right now, both of them got offended for opposite reasons at the same time.

Speaker 1 It was great. Max, it's like when you said Philly's almost title town.

Speaker 1 All right. Fair.

Speaker 8 Do you remember when you said that? Yeah, I remember. No, you guys have never mentioned it again.

Speaker 1 Oh, we haven't? No.

Speaker 2 Oh, Max. Speaking of, I don't know if you saw this, if this came across your desk yesterday, but the new rankings for most popular dog names are out in the United States.

Speaker 2 Max is second.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 so funny. Yeah.

Speaker 2 No, it was number one. It was number one for like seven years in a row.

Speaker 8 Yeah, that was like always a fun fact that I had growing up that it's the most popular cat and dog name.

Speaker 2 But now it's number two.

Speaker 1 Cat and dog, huh? Second place.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Damn.

Speaker 1 All right. Seahawks at Rams.
Oh, wait, nerd nuggets. Sorry.

Speaker 6 Bills quarterback Josh Allen has thrown a touchdown pass in 18 consecutive games and needs one more to break Jim Kelly's club record set in 1980.

Speaker 1 Biased.

Speaker 1 Why is that biased? Oh, you're the AWLs? Biased. Yeah, no, that was biased.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Congrats to Josh. It's a fact.
Yeah, no, but it's biased.

Speaker 1 It's biased.

Speaker 1 There have been some people in the analytics community that have been like, Josh Allen, if you actually look at the tape, has been playing great and he doesn't have many turnover-worthy plays. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm in for that.

Speaker 2 They're doing the bad turnover luck.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 2 Well, this is kind of Josh. You're always going to get some turnovers.

Speaker 2 The real difference, if you watch the tape slash look at the box score, is that Josh isn't running running the ball as much anymore, which is good?

Speaker 2 Which is, I think that's one of those things that we talked about with Justin Fields where it's like, Josh is a great quarterback. We want to limit the number of hits that he takes.

Speaker 2 Let's have him run the ball less. And then, guess what happens when you run the ball less with your dynamic running quarterback? You're not as good anymore on offense.

Speaker 1 You throw more.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you throw, but like, let Josh run.

Speaker 2 You know what? Free Josh. Free Josh.
Free Josh.

Speaker 1 All right. Seahawks at Rams.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I was correct when I said that the Rams stink and then they went to stink really bad against the Cowboys, and then they lost three in a row. I think I'm ready to buy back it on the Rams.

Speaker 1 Healthy Stafford. This also is one of those spread games.
It makes no sense to me.

Speaker 1 Seahawks are 6-3, whatever their record is. They're good.
The Rams are bad. The Rams are a one-point underdog.
Huh?

Speaker 2 Yeah, somebody knows something.

Speaker 1 I think the Rams are going to win this game.

Speaker 1 And doesn't McVay own Carroll?

Speaker 2 McVay, let's see. McVay owns Carol.

Speaker 1 I don't know if that's true.

Speaker 2 They all own the Cardinals, coach. We forget this every single year.

Speaker 1 I know Kyle owns McVay. Right, so then it would make sense.

Speaker 2 I think Carol might own

Speaker 1 he's eight and five against Pete Carroll. Okay.

Speaker 2 Who does Pete Carroll owns Kyle?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 2 I think. I think so.

Speaker 1 And then they own. Tony needs to make a chart for us, please.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 I'm upset because we got a Carson Wentz signing out in Los Angeles on the bye week, so we didn't get one appearance of Carson Wentz.

Speaker 2 Once you have Carson Wentz, you just want everybody else to be afflicted with

Speaker 2 full-blown Carson Wentz. Yes.
You want to spread the disease around. You want to take

Speaker 2 joy in the misery of others that have to deal with it, too. I feel like

Speaker 2 those who have not had Carson Wentz play for your football team are missing out on

Speaker 2 a very painful experience that I want to commiserate with.

Speaker 1 He just had a baby, too. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Carson Wentz? Yeah. He did.

Speaker 1 He got signed and went right home to have a baby and then came back.

Speaker 2 I'm shocked his sperm didn't get picked off. Max, when we got Carson Wentz,

Speaker 2 were you happy for me that you got to see another franchise deal with the bullshit that is Carson?

Speaker 8 Yes, but there's also still a part of me that thinks that Carson Wentz could be good.

Speaker 2 So, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 I'm glad you admitted that because I was texting with somebody the other day about Carson Wentz signing with the Rams.

Speaker 2 And I was like, also, if he has one good throw, I'm going to be like, fuck, Carson Wentz is still good. I'm going to fall back into the trap so fast.

Speaker 2 But I do want other people to experience having full-blown Carson Wentz.

Speaker 8 Because I fought for him so hard for so long, and then obviously all shit hit the fan, and then everyone hated him so much.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 8 But enough time has passed where I fought for him longer than I

Speaker 8 hated him. Yeah.

Speaker 8 So now I kind of, I'm like, he could be, he could be good.

Speaker 1 Having Carson Wentz as

Speaker 2 a former quarterback for you is not unlike being a zombie.

Speaker 1 So you got it. Now you want to spread it to somebody else.

Speaker 2 I want to bite the Rams. I want to watch them curl up into a little puddle and then go hunting for somebody else to bite.

Speaker 1 He could be good. Yeah, he could be.
Could be good. All right, nerd nugget.

Speaker 6 Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford is set to play in his 200th regular season NFL game.

Speaker 6 He needs 198 passing yards in this one to surpass Matt Ryan for the second most ever by a player in his first 200 regular season games.

Speaker 1 Okay. Matt Ryan, there's a name.

Speaker 2 Have we talked about Matt Ryan?

Speaker 1 I zoned that one out.

Speaker 2 I didn't even listen to it. Sorry.

Speaker 1 It's all right. Say it again.

Speaker 6 Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford sets play in his 200th regular season game this weekend.

Speaker 6 He needs 198 passing yards in this one to surpass Matt Ryan for the second most ever by a player in their first 200 games.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So with Matt Ryan, though, have the Browns kicked the tires on old Matty Ice?

Speaker 1 There was a tweet, I think, that said, like, it was like the Browns should should call him.

Speaker 6 Awful announcing said the Cleveland Browns' best option for replacing Deshaun Watson might be in the broadcast booth. And it was a picture of the booth.

Speaker 6 And Andrew Catalon, play-by-play guy, said it's a good fit. I used to run Stefanski's system in my backyard.

Speaker 1 Now that's funny.

Speaker 2 So with Matt Ryan, I think he has a clause in his contract where he can get out of the booth to go play for an NFL team. Oh.
Which tells me that like he's thinking about it right now.

Speaker 1 Well, remember watching Matt Ryan last year?

Speaker 2 He's sitting by the phone.

Speaker 1 That was really bad.

Speaker 1 What about Philip Rivers?

Speaker 2 Get all the old

Speaker 1 playoff game on Friday.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, for the high school team. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was reported on that.

Speaker 2 I would say that Matt Ryan would be a better option than DTF. DTR? I'm just going to call him DTR.
DTF. It's a cooler nickname.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Vikings and Broncos, Sunday Night Football.
Josh Dobbs, Russell Wilson. I'm excited.
I am excited.

Speaker 2 Josh Dobbs, baby.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Josh Dobbs is fun.

Speaker 1 He's so fun. And you know what? Russell Wilson might eke back into fun as well.
Maybe.

Speaker 1 I also think the Broncos, like that win against the Bills.

Speaker 1 Russell Wilson's playing a lot better. They started at like the 50-yard line every single drive.

Speaker 2 And then they got like 15 yards.

Speaker 1 I know. So I'm going to take the Vikings in this game, most likely.

Speaker 2 So on Monday night, Russell Wilson was good.

Speaker 1 Not to say he was great. No, he was good.
He is good. He was good.

Speaker 2 He did what he needed to do. Correct.
They're 4-5.

Speaker 2 Everyone was going to laugh at the start of the season about the AFC West record. And outside the Chiefs, every other team looked like dog shit.

Speaker 2 But now that the Raiders have ripped off two in a row against the Jets and the Giants,

Speaker 2 the whole division looks a little bit better. And the Broncos are not out of the...
They're in the hunt.

Speaker 2 The Broncos are in the hunt graphic.

Speaker 1 They are in the hunt graphic, yes. They'd have to pass some pretty good teams.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they're one game behind the Bengals and the Colts. I guess one and a half behind the Colts.

Speaker 1 And a half game behind the Bills, right? I know they have the tiebreaker, but but they're four and five. The Bills are five and five.
Yep. So, yeah, they got some work to do.

Speaker 1 Would be crazy if the Broncos made the playoffs. It'd be awesome.
Would be.

Speaker 2 That'd be fun. Russell Wilson in the playoffs.
I think it'd be good for ratings, and that's what we root for. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, Jake.

Speaker 6 History says this will most likely be a close game. 10 of the 15 games between these two teams have been decided by four or fewer points, including each of the last four matchups.
Ooh.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Let's do some picks. Where are our standings? Do it.

Speaker 6 Points, points, points, points.

Speaker 1 Points, points. Yep.
Points.

Speaker 1 Big cat.

Speaker 6 Or sorry. We'll start off with the warm-up.

Speaker 6 15 minutes in Las Vegas.

Speaker 6 Jake, 11.5.

Speaker 1 Max, 11. Memes, 10.
Ooh,

Speaker 2 1.5.

Speaker 1 Spicy.

Speaker 6 Separating all of us. And the main event, one hour between the three of you.

Speaker 1 Hank just sighed.

Speaker 6 Big Cat, 12.5.

Speaker 1 PFT, 12. Hank, 8.
Oh,

Speaker 1 no.

Speaker 2 8.5 is a big half point there, Hank.

Speaker 1 Next week, we will do three picks.

Speaker 2 Hank, if it's in the constellation,

Speaker 2 just know that your PowerPoint on the Lighthouse was so good that I have full faith that you'll be able to put together a full hour on

Speaker 2 whether or not this presentation is actually real.

Speaker 6 Still 17 picks left.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and next week we'll do three. So

Speaker 1 we'll do a round.

Speaker 1 Maybe we'll figure out with the lottery ball who gets to go first, but we'll have one pick. Everyone has two, one pick for Thanksgiving Day.
Or Friday.

Speaker 1 Or Friday, yeah.

Speaker 1 No, Thanksgiving Day. Then you can do Friday or Sunday.

Speaker 2 Hank, I've noticed that you've been quiet. What are you upset about?

Speaker 7 I'm not upset. I'm just not looking forward to doing an hour of stand-up.

Speaker 1 You got this. You got this.
You're a big boy. All right.
Who's going first? I believe it's Max. Yeah, just pick some winners, Hank.
Fine. Don't pick the losers.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Who's going to confirm it?

Speaker 9 Somebody.

Speaker 1 Just Matt.

Speaker 1 I don't think I don't know.

Speaker 6 Well, we started with PFT, and then I think I went last week in this studio.

Speaker 1 Sure. I don't remember.
Yeah, whatever.

Speaker 1 We rarely stood at each other's effects.

Speaker 8 I am going to be taking the Bears.

Speaker 8 Plus seven and a half.

Speaker 1 I like it.

Speaker 6 Against the Lions.

Speaker 1 Yes. I like it.
They're not as bad as people say. They aren't.

Speaker 1 Hank. Erno Memes.

Speaker 6 Eagles, Chiefs, over 45.5.

Speaker 1 Ooh. That's fun.
That is fun. Yeah, that is fun.
Yeah, that's very fun. God damn, that's so fun.
That's fun.

Speaker 1 Fuck.

Speaker 2 I just want to I want to take that picture so I can smile.

Speaker 7 This is not going to make you smile. It does make me smile, but I'm going for it anyway.
Titans plus seven against the Jaguars.

Speaker 2 That's not fun.

Speaker 1 What's your strategy on that? Injury.

Speaker 7 I think Jags are banged up. Will Levis, bounce back game.

Speaker 1 Vrable, coaching. Gonna keep it close.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I'll take Bucks Niners over 41 and a half for my first pick.

Speaker 2 That's a good pick. That was going to be mine.
The 49ers might get that on their own. Yep.

Speaker 2 I'm going to go.

Speaker 2 I don't have anything that I love. I'll be honest with you guys.
Don't have anything I love. But

Speaker 2 I'm going to go with the Steelers. Road Dogs.
Ooh.

Speaker 6 Plus one against the Browns. Yep.

Speaker 2 Let's do it. Okay.

Speaker 6 I'm going to go with the Dolphins minus 13.5 against the Raiders.

Speaker 1 Kevin Harlin.

Speaker 6 And I'm going to go with Dolphins, Raiders over 46.5.

Speaker 1 Ooh, double dip. They love to score at home.

Speaker 6 They love to crush teams at home.

Speaker 1 Double dip. All right, PFT.

Speaker 2 I'm going to go with the Cowboys, Panthers over 42.5 points. Ooh.
I think CeeDee Lamb gets like 21 points on his own.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I will take.

Speaker 1 I have to do a spread now.

Speaker 1 You know what? I'll back it up. I'll take Rams plus one.
Back up what I said. My fury.

Speaker 7 I'm going to take the Bears, Lions under

Speaker 7 47.5. Justin Fields coming back.
Little rusty.

Speaker 1 Bears defense playing well.

Speaker 7 Bears defense playing well. Lions defense

Speaker 2 non-existent. Bounce back game.

Speaker 7 Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 I like that. You can just say, like, if a team's good at something, be like, yeah, they're good at this.
And if they suck, I'd be like, they're looking to bounce back. Yeah.
They're fired up.

Speaker 1 You got it. Oh, this is the dumbest death thing ever.
If you hit any part of the metal mesh, the whole thing just falls on me.

Speaker 1 It's like a trampoline back.

Speaker 2 Also, the TV is too small.

Speaker 1 Don't hit it. Fix it.
Okay. Why did memes.
Where did Max go? He left?

Speaker 6 They're playing music on the court and he's telling them it's small.

Speaker 1 We can hear it from here. Oh, I love that.

Speaker 6 That's why our mics are hot. I like Max.

Speaker 1 He's screaming at him. All right, memes.

Speaker 11 Anyone take the Seahawks?

Speaker 1 Nope. Nope.
Seahawks minus one.

Speaker 1 Against the Rams. Yep.
Yep.

Speaker 6 And Max, Grand Finale.

Speaker 2 Is there a noise for the Grand Finale?

Speaker 1 Done with my pick. Done.

Speaker 8 I want the grossest pick, the Brown Steelers under.

Speaker 1 Okay. I think it's like 31.

Speaker 2 I just saw 32 and a half. Yep.

Speaker 8 Did someone else? Wait, did someone take that? Nope.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 5 I also saw Steelers one and a half, so I don't know.

Speaker 2 I've got right now Steelers plus one on the bars or on ESPN Barcelona Sportsboard.

Speaker 6 I didn't get a pancake update this week, so I'll keep you guys posted.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 1 all right, finish your fuck, boys.

Speaker 2 Let's get it.

Speaker 1 Let's get it.

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Speaker 1 Hey, what's up, y'all?

Speaker 7 My name is Mario Batielevi.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Mario.

Speaker 7 Mario, my stardom is Flashlights. Oh, it's getting dark this time of year.
You're going to need a flashlight on your person at all times.

Speaker 1 I fuck with the sun. Hey, I got a theory.
I think Mario might have just picked his fancy fuck voice based on what we talked about. It might be, it could be.
My sitim.

Speaker 1 Siddham, Carson Wentz.

Speaker 2 I haven't seen you around too much. Why you been...
What you

Speaker 1 snitched? My him is Smoke.

Speaker 7 Smoke? One of the OGs, all-time greatest smoke of Snoop Dogg. He retired from Smoke.

Speaker 1 Oh, he didn't die. No, he didn't.
He's not dead.

Speaker 7 Retired. But he might as well be.
He retired from Smoke.

Speaker 2 Full-time gummy guy.

Speaker 7 Probably going to last a couple weeks.

Speaker 2 Have some brownies.

Speaker 7 And my sleeper,

Speaker 7 Draymond Green.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Don't fuck with him.

Speaker 7 He'll fucking choke you and put you to sleep. Put you to sleep.

Speaker 2 He's sleeping with fishing.

Speaker 1 Love that.

Speaker 2 Hey, what's up, assholes?

Speaker 1 It's Tommy DeVito.

Speaker 2 Looking forward to playing football this weekend for the New York Giants. You're always Tommy DeVito.
I'm Tommy DeVito this week again, bitch. Shut the fuck up, Hank.
Your quarterback's Mac Jones.

Speaker 2 He's worse than I am. Bailey Zappy.
I'm third string. I'm starting beer.

Speaker 2 We're drinking beer again.

Speaker 1 Love that.

Speaker 2 It's beer season in the wintertime. I'm sitting not drinking beer.
I used to not drink beer sometimes, but now guess what? We're drinking some stunts. And my sleeper this weekend is me, Tommy DeVito.

Speaker 1 That's right.

Speaker 2 Tommy's going to go into Landover, Maryland, and he's going to throw for at least 20 yards. Oh, hell yes.
That's a fucking promise. That's a DeVito family promise.

Speaker 1 Love that. Love that.
Tommy DeVito, you like chicken palm?

Speaker 2 Love chicken palm.

Speaker 1 Chicken pom.

Speaker 2 Chicken palm and bad boys. Now, that's what I call World Class Night.

Speaker 1 Chicken Palm. What's up, you fucks? My name's George Santos.

Speaker 2 Hey, Georgie boy.

Speaker 1 My stardom is OnlyFans. Yeah.
Fucking love that shit. Love

Speaker 1 tipping everyone.

Speaker 1 Seeing all these chicks, guys, whatever you want, whatever you're into.

Speaker 2 It's supporting small business owners.

Speaker 1 Yeah, my sitem is is uh my only fans page i don't have one didn't peel a banana with my feet on it

Speaker 1 people ask me that georgie do you did you i never did that only never said that peeled a banana with your feet no hey georgie what do those tutsies do huh no

Speaker 1 and it's never happened and then my sleeper my sleeper It's gonna be Hank Lockwood. The fuck.
People are sleeping on this guy. He's an up-and-comer.
Hey. He's a fucking guy.
He's a great guy.

Speaker 1 He's a good guy. Oh, Max is making a face.
Like, I don't know about that.

Speaker 2 You know what? A real piece of shit. You know what I heard about Hank?

Speaker 2 I heard that maybe he's got conflicting business priorities.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 2 what's that? That's what I heard. Not for me.
Are we still doing the voices? No. Not for me.
I didn't hear that. I didn't say that.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 2 there's

Speaker 2 questions about where Hank's priorities lie right now.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I don't know what's going on. There's a mutiny going on.
A mutiny is going to be.

Speaker 2 You got to get your boys in order. What happened?

Speaker 8 The mutiny is incorrect.

Speaker 1 What happened?

Speaker 7 I don't know.

Speaker 8 i had tried to ask max and he was like i'm not talking about it i'm not talking about it are they going are they going at the king max and memes are forming a coalition we just you know it's been a long time coming this new office there was a couple new things that are coming around and hank is just pmt is just not his top priority anymore and that's that's just a fact that's bad can you give me some examples give us some examples

Speaker 8 there's just one example and i get it i agree with you viva tv should be a big thing but it's just part of my take doesn't matter anymore.

Speaker 1 Why? What happened?

Speaker 7 Yeah, but what have I done to make you think that part of my take doesn't matter? Well,

Speaker 8 every Thursday night we release our PMT vlog,

Speaker 8 PM TV vlog, and

Speaker 8 we had an agreement that I was like, oh, this Viva TV thing.

Speaker 8 You're going to go Monday, Wednesday, Friday. We're going to go Thursday.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, you broke the agreement.

Speaker 8 And then all of a sudden today.

Speaker 7 It's a week for till the new year. So what are the Monday, Thursday?

Speaker 1 Oh, hey.

Speaker 1 I side with the boys in the booth.

Speaker 2 It's at different times.

Speaker 1 I side with with the boys in the booth.

Speaker 2 They're not released at the same time? No.

Speaker 1 What are the times?

Speaker 7 Two hours.

Speaker 1 It's kind of similar.

Speaker 8 So Thursday nights.

Speaker 7 For a few weeks, yeah.

Speaker 8 But what was Monday, Wednesday, Friday was the agreement.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it sounds like you don't have to be aware of it. It could have been on Monday, Friday.
I'm with them.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 8 I also talked to him about it, and then it became a you and us situation.

Speaker 1 Oh, and I was like.

Speaker 1 You and us us? Well, well, then I was like, I thought you were on the point. Are we putting out PMTV? No, you said, what time are you putting us?

Speaker 7 Then I started saying, if you're going to keep me out of this, wrong, wrong.

Speaker 1 Did you and us us? You and us?

Speaker 2 No. He did you and us him, and it's also about Hank being like, well, I'm technically like the senior vice president.
I'm SVP, so I don't really work on part of my take. I just

Speaker 8 was part of the take.

Speaker 9 He's SVP.

Speaker 2 And the head logo is spinning, and he's laughing at us.

Speaker 7 It is a tough, you know, there's a lot of shows, podcasts, streams, Like, things have to come out in the same days. There's not enough time.
There's not enough days in the week to just do

Speaker 1 memes. Is the real one who should be here? Yeah, memes doesn't speak.

Speaker 7 He just fucking chirps me from the clouds.

Speaker 1 I like that memes. Keep going.
Izzy Army.

Speaker 2 Izzy Army.

Speaker 1 Stand up.

Speaker 2 So, Hank, what do you think about these guys? Like, to me, I'm concerned because it sounds like you don't have your boys in order.

Speaker 7 It's memes. Memes is a mutineer.

Speaker 7 Mutineer, nice. And I don't.

Speaker 7 Again, like YouTube, the way YouTube works,

Speaker 7 the algorithm, like people are going to watch what they want to watch. I think releasing something at the same time would be crazy.

Speaker 7 I think releasing things at different times when you have a company with, you know,

Speaker 7 like

Speaker 7 50 shows that all do videos

Speaker 1 on podcasts. I don't think it has anything to do with the scheduling, to be honest.
I think it's more of a you versus us kind of thing. I don't like that.
You forgot where you came from.

Speaker 7 I haven't.

Speaker 2 That's crazy. Crazy.
Actually, now that I think about Big Cat, did we ever give Hank any crap about one of his guys forgetting to press the button?

Speaker 1 Because that technically criticism we have to talk about. That's true.

Speaker 2 He's supervised. That was on you.

Speaker 1 Or having one of his guys have the worst attitude ever and just be like moping all the time and saying Izzy into the microphone.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that shouldn't be a problem for too much longer.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 now you can't say that. You know, memes will just spiral.
Memes can't say jokes like that. We didn't say those memes.
Memes, he's not going to fire you.

Speaker 2 I just like the idea.

Speaker 1 You might reassign your ass to TV. Oh.

Speaker 1 Just reverse it.

Speaker 2 I like the idea of just blaming Hank for everything that they do, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 That to me seems like good workflow. No, I don't like that.

Speaker 1 I don't like that. I don't know.
I don't like that. No, I love it.

Speaker 2 But that way I just get to get mad at Hank. And, I mean, on top of the parking post situation, Hank, you've things have been kind of dicey.

Speaker 1 I feel like they're not too far off. It's you versus us kind of thing.
You forgot about us.

Speaker 7 I am us.

Speaker 1 No, you're you. We're us.
You're you. We're us.

Speaker 1 We're all us.

Speaker 7 No, no, you first said I every everything that every view, every dollar, everything goes back to to Dave Portnoy.

Speaker 8 I just want to make sure that you're still part of this team. Like you still look at this.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you still like us. You still want to like, did you do the best for us?

Speaker 7 I like most of the people here.

Speaker 1 Okay, rank us.

Speaker 1 No, I'm just kidding. No ranking.
But at the also memes and Max are like, fuck, we're going to be bottom.

Speaker 2 Hank had a look on his face that was like, I really wanted to rank you.

Speaker 1 Also,

Speaker 8 the moral of the story is there's two great vlogs that are out right now. Me and PFT.

Speaker 1 Which one should people watch first?

Speaker 1 Whatever the people want to watch, I want them to watch.

Speaker 8 This is a team thing.

Speaker 1 Very similar names. I don't.
Same day.

Speaker 8 Memes is also upset about the name.

Speaker 8 But I will say me and PFT had a nice, did a nice investment.

Speaker 7 Did you come up with the name PMTV memes?

Speaker 1 Me and Liam did. Oh, okay.

Speaker 8 Me and PFT did a nice investigative journalism of

Speaker 8 the headspace of Rico Bosco during the invitational. Scary place.

Speaker 1 It is. Scary place.

Speaker 8 It was terrifying.

Speaker 8 It was up close and personal. You should go give it a watch.

Speaker 2 I will say this. People are going to give Rico some shit for not paying attention to the mopping, but he did a great job being the assistant coach for the FAU House.

Speaker 7 Memes, do you think people shouldn't put out podcasts on the same day?

Speaker 7 No, I think they should. What's the difference?

Speaker 1 Different podcasts is a sports podcast.

Speaker 1 Macrodosing is a.

Speaker 1 Well, those don't go out on the

Speaker 1 memes? Conspiracy podcast.

Speaker 7 Yeah, one vlog is a vlog about PMT, and one vlog is a vlog about the.

Speaker 9 What's Viva TV about?

Speaker 7 What happens at the Barcelona office?

Speaker 1 What's PM TV about?

Speaker 7 What happens within the Part of My Take podcast?

Speaker 1 Where's the Part of My Take podcast?

Speaker 7 This situation, it was at the

Speaker 7 basketball arena.

Speaker 1 All right, I think we should just end this discussion and just say, you're on notice.

Speaker 7 That's fine. You're suspect.

Speaker 1 That's fine. Keep your house in order, Hank.

Speaker 1 We'll start with that. That I need to do.

Speaker 7 That is my biggest takeaway.

Speaker 1 You got to clean your home?

Speaker 7 I got to, yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 Oh, he's threatening memes again.

Speaker 2 Now Hank's going to take some Add Roll tomorrow morning and then just spend all day breathing down your necks. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Wait, here's what I want to do. Can we also make a video series of Hank bossing you guys around as a sub-brand underneath PM TV?

Speaker 8 Yeah, you produce that one.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 Got it. Oh, wait.
I have to do my one second in the life of Angry Hank Lockwood TikTok that I'm working on for this entire year.

Speaker 6 Have you been getting every day?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I started it yesterday. Love it.

Speaker 1 Love it.

Speaker 1 All right, let's. 363.
What if you don't see him someday?

Speaker 6 What about next week, Thanksgiving?

Speaker 2 No, I'll find him.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah.
All right, let's get to our interview. We got Ryan Fitzpatrick and Andrew Whitworth Whitworth in studio.
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Speaker 1 But they're together. It is Andrew Whitworth, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Thursday night football on Amazon Prime.
They're in Chicago. We're going to run this next week.

Speaker 1 Apologies for the Bears-Panthers game, but you guys have an awesome slate coming up. You have Bengals-Ravens, right? Do.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Baltimore. Yeah.
We're on opposite sides of it, too. It's not contentious.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, we both played for the Bengals.

Speaker 9 People forget.

Speaker 1 Yeah, people do forget. Yeah, do you, when you do these Thursday night football games, are you just like, oh, I guess I'm rooting for this team.
I guess I'm rooting for half the league is yours.

Speaker 9 Yeah, well, Witt only Bengals and Rams. He'll root for him every time.
He already said the Rams are making the the playoffs this year.

Speaker 1 He still stands for it.

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 2 they're going to win more than seven and a half games this year.

Speaker 1 That's actually what I said. I said they stink right before the Cowboys game, and I was proven very right.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Well, Matt Stafford got hurt.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 9 But they stink. But we actually have a...
a whiteboard in my house and we write all the teams down and then that I've played for and circle the ones that win or lose.

Speaker 9 And the other week I went 0-5 with four bye weeks.

Speaker 1 That's a

Speaker 1 rough week for us.

Speaker 9 But usually when they play each other, then it's like, okay, we're guaranteed at least some sort of win.

Speaker 1 Yeah, win.

Speaker 2 You're probably the best person to ask about this. Like, Josh Dobbs, he's bounced around a little bit.
We want him to find a forever home.

Speaker 2 What he did last week,

Speaker 2 how hard is that actually to go to a new city and you've got like three days to practice, you don't even get any reps in practice? How difficult is that to step into a game and do what he did?

Speaker 9 It's impossible. It's impossible.

Speaker 9 We saw it last year with Baker Mayfield when he went to L.A. and the Raiders game, but Baker was going to be the starter for that game.
Like, Josh was an afterthought. They brought him in.

Speaker 9 They had to get a rookie ready to play. So all their focus was on Hall and what he was doing and the game plan.

Speaker 9 And for him to step in on the sideline, talking with the center about where he puts his hands, what the snap count is, how do you want me to ⁇ that was like during a game. And Atlanta lost the game.

Speaker 9 I don't know that it'll ever be done again. I mean, that was insane.

Speaker 1 So from an offensive lineman's perspective, when you have a new guy who you've never blocked for, do they say something like, hey, this is what I like to do? I'm going to roll right.

Speaker 1 Or is that even a discussion that they're going to be doing? Probably not in that moment because they didn't have time.

Speaker 1 They don't know him well, and he's just getting in there trying to survive, right? I mean, he wasn't in there long enough to know have to plays and concepts, right? So he's trying to figure that out.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I don't imagine there's a lot of dialogue with that. But as a lineman, especially tackles, you're protecting the edges.
So you don't know, is this a quarterback who likes to sit deep in the pocket?

Speaker 1 Does he like to climb up in the pocket? Like, you're trying to feel this guy out as the game goes and where you need to protect for him.

Speaker 1 And then I think we talked about it like probably beneficial that it was a road game and they're using a lot of silent count, right?

Speaker 1 Because then you don't have to go off cadence because a quarterback's first time you're in a, I don't care what practice, what it is, the first time a new quarterback comes in and says the cadence, somebody's jumping.

Speaker 1 And the whole game, you're going to be guessing how he's going to use his cadence and those things. So I think it probably helped them out some being in the gun, using silent count.

Speaker 1 At least that way they're just using their mechanisms and not the quarterback. Yeah.
So we're at the point of the season where obviously injuries start piling up.

Speaker 1 And this is a question for both of you because it's great that they probably did this on purpose, you know, quarterback, offensive lineman.

Speaker 1 How many injuries to the offensive line has it become like, uh-oh, we're in trouble? Because I know like teams can come over one. They overcome one.

Speaker 1 But, you know, two, then three, it's like depth issue, but also cohesiveness with the quarterback. What's that tipping point usually in a season where it's like,

Speaker 1 we're now in some trouble no offense to the backups but at some point it's like we just aren't playing as a team well i think that probably the premium is your outside guys first yeah in the sense of it depending on the team right if you got a young quarterback veteran center is without question a massive loss if you lose that kind of guy because he's probably declaring everything he's doing all the communication for that young guy and probably the calming force a little bit for him while he's playing but you know in most offenses where you got elite tackle play you look at san francisco how good they were playing until trent williams goes down like and misses a couple games here that he's not healthy.

Speaker 1 It matters because you literally build your offense around how good that guy is and what he does. And so that is a big loss.
You look at what happened to the Rams last year. It's unheard of, right?

Speaker 1 Every position other than the right tackle was just a rolling wheel of players. That you have no chance.
But I would say for good football teams, probably one or two is like the max.

Speaker 1 And that really depends on the quarterback situation and probably, you know, whether that's a young guy or a veteran QB who kind of knows, you know, Drew Brees was an artist that I used to always say, obviously, being with the Rams, you know, I'm rooting against the Saints, and it's like, man, the Saints are missing some linemen.

Speaker 1 I'd get livid watching Drew Brees just get the ball out fast, have all these answers for, oh man, he's under all these pressure, but the ball comes out.

Speaker 1 I think those kind of guys can handle it better, but you better be in that kind of situation if you lose one or two guys.

Speaker 9 I've got a different take than Super Bowl champion Andrew Whitworth. How many consecutive games did you play?

Speaker 1 Did I play? Yeah,

Speaker 1 I played a lot.

Speaker 9 The man played a lot. So for the bad teams,

Speaker 9 I always had that rule where if I'm in the huddle and there are at least two guys lining up on the offense

Speaker 9 that weren't here at the beginning of the year, that's the tipping point for me. We can do one.
We could fill in at left guard.

Speaker 9 But that's when you're on your third guy and you're moving your right tackle to left.

Speaker 1 We weren't really talking about the teams that are going to go six and

Speaker 1 it depends what perspective,

Speaker 1 anyways. But that's, I mean, that's a good point because

Speaker 1 it does feel like the minute you get that second, it's like, uh-oh. Like even the Browns right now,

Speaker 1 Jedrick Wills goes down. They've now lost both tackles.

Speaker 1 And now they're talking about swapping their tackles, which I people don't understand when they're like, oh, yeah, we'll just put the right tackle at the left tackle.

Speaker 1 It's like, that's a totally different position.

Speaker 1 I mean, Tristan Worfs, you know, obviously has done it this year, and it's insane to me that he's done it as well as he has.

Speaker 1 Because I was making this point when we were talking about their game a couple weeks ago. Like, name a guy that you know that's played both sides that was like a really good player.

Speaker 1 Like there's just not any. I mean, most of the time, that guy was an average player at best.
Yeah. Right.
And so it's just whenever they say that, it's like, that's not an easy fix.

Speaker 1 Like, flipping a guy on the other side is not the answer.

Speaker 1 Maybe putting another guy, whoever your best left is, and give him help a lot, chip or do whatever you got to do to help him, to me would be better and at least be good on one side where the quarterback knows like, hey, I can trust my right side.

Speaker 1 Like we feel good about the left side. I know where pressure is going to probably be coming from.

Speaker 9 And to Witt's point, too, sorry, he said, and he put it in context for me, because even for me, it's hard to say, like, well, why can't you just flip over to the right side? Right.

Speaker 9 Next time you go to the bathroom, wipe with your left hand. Oh, you'll see what happened.

Speaker 1 I give it a wipe with the opposite hand. See what happens.

Speaker 2 I had hand surgery back when I was in high school. On my right hand,

Speaker 2 my life was turned upside down by not being able to use my right arm.

Speaker 1 What do you mean? I don't get it. I'm confused.
I think we can

Speaker 1 strangely for like writing. We can read.

Speaker 1 Weights. A lot of writing.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 If you're playing left tackle, though, and you try to switch to the right,

Speaker 2 as a left tackle, is one side of your body naturally stronger from doing that, you know, the same pass set every single time?

Speaker 1 Yeah, if you look at most offensive linemen, like retired players, if you're a right tackle, the left side of your body is where the majority of your injuries are.

Speaker 1 Your left ankle, knee, hip, you know, left arm, elbow, because that's really where you're taking all the pressure on that side of your body.

Speaker 1 And then if you're a left tackle, it's the right side of your body because your inside part, your outside leg is your kick and stretch leg.

Speaker 1 That's how you move, but the inside leg is how you stop force and power and everything else. So, you know, usually your inside part of your body is what's injured the most.

Speaker 1 So, a lot of guys, why they can't flip, like even for somebody like me, like my right side of my body is where I took all my injuries.

Speaker 1 So, to go to the right side and start telling me I got to open that up and move it a whole bunch, it's like, man, no, that part of my body doesn't want to move at all. Right, yeah, right.
Makes sense.

Speaker 1 What

Speaker 1 Fitz, when you're playing a defense, which would you rather go up against, man or zone? And would you rather them blitz or not blitz?

Speaker 9 Man, 100% of the time. Really?

Speaker 1 Like Gino, I'm fascinated with Gino, who can't play against man defense. And he just kills Zone.

Speaker 9 Which is shocking because that's about matchups, right? So it's like, okay, who's Gino throwing to? Okay, we got Lockett, we got DK, and we've got Smith and Jigba.

Speaker 9 So it's like they should be able to win some of those matchups.

Speaker 9 The hard thing is when you don't have dudes to throw to, you got to manufacture it. The rubs, you know, the back back out of the backfield, that kind of stuff.

Speaker 9 But for me, if it's man coverage and I got a guy, it doesn't matter if it's doubled. I mean, if it's Brandon Marshall, I'm just closing my eyes and throwing it.

Speaker 9 And some years it works and some years it doesn't.

Speaker 1 We were saying that about Joe Burrow.

Speaker 1 It does feel like once or twice a game, he's just like, I'm just going to throw it to Jamar. And

Speaker 1 even Jalen Hurts with A.J. Brown, like, I'm just going to throw it up there.
It probably is not smart, but he's going to make the catch most times.

Speaker 9 When you watch and he makes a play, it's like sometimes we complicate football too much.

Speaker 9 My guy's better than your guy, so I'm going to give my guy a chance.

Speaker 1 And that's why

Speaker 9 I love the A.J. Brown thing because it's like that's what he does three times a game, and two out of three.
It's either pass interference or AJ's bringing it down. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 So, Fitz, from your perspective, we're actually talking about this on Monday's show. As a quarterback, do you bring two separate outfits to wear after the game in case you lose and in case you win?

Speaker 2 Because there's no worse look than a guy wearing something at the podium podium after they just took a big loss, and it's, you know, Cam Newton having the shirt that looks like your drapes and like a cowboy hat with tassels on, and he's answering questions somberly.

Speaker 2 Did that occur to you? Because I know that you wore some pretty crazy post-game stuff.

Speaker 9 But that's why I always borrowed other people's stuff because I would just show up in something

Speaker 1 normal.

Speaker 9 I would just show up in something normal, and then I would be like, oh, okay, we actually won a game.

Speaker 1 Like, here we go.

Speaker 9 I got to put somebody's stuff on, which is the Deshaun stuff and other outfits as well.

Speaker 9 But yeah, it's always a tough look, you know, going up to the podium and then having to walk back to the bus, you know, in the flare when you just lost 230.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 that is tough.

Speaker 2 You're all dripped out and everyone's just talking like the sad walk back to the bus.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's not good.

Speaker 2 See, these are the small things that we think about that probably players don't think about as much. But you guys, you went to Harvard, you went to LSU.

Speaker 2 Which school do you think is harder to graduate in four years? Because I would say LSU.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That might be true. I'm actually going to go LSU.
Four years would be tough, man. I mean, you got two years of being incoherent.
Yeah, exactly. You got a lot of work to do in two years.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I feel like there's a lot of pressure on you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they don't have a Freds in Cambridge. Yeah, you're not worried about Freds and Bogeys and Tiger Land.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, I agree. I would say LSU.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 You had a pretty good game. Harvard's, it's really hard to get into, right?

Speaker 1 Yes. That's the hard part.
For some, yeah. Uh-huh.
For some.

Speaker 1 Not for this guy.

Speaker 2 You went to school with, who is it? Natalie Portman? Yeah.

Speaker 1 At Harvard? Portman was there. Did you hang out with her?

Speaker 9 Never.

Speaker 1 No, not once. Portnik and Natalie Portman.
JTT.

Speaker 1 Listen,

Speaker 1 he can barely get in there now. I mean, he took us last year.
So, look, we go, we go to the Patriots game. We're there.
He's like, hey, I've never been on the subway.

Speaker 1 He's like, man, we're going to take the...

Speaker 9 Witt had never been on a subway. Never been on a subway.

Speaker 1 Took him on the tee. They don't have to be on the table.
Took me on the tee.

Speaker 1 Took me on the tee. I went on the tee.
We went to Harvard. Fitz was going to give us a tour of the school.
We got kicked out of the cafeteria as soon as we walked into it.

Speaker 1 They're like, get the hell out of here. I don't know who you are or what you're doing.
Get out of here. Wow.
So we get kicked out in our first building.

Speaker 9 It was interesting. Then we went to the Widener Library, and thank God Tony Gonzalez was there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Tony being a beautiful human,

Speaker 1 we got invited to go on a tour by

Speaker 1 one of the guys that worked in the building. It was great.
But Fitz got us kicked out of the cafeteria. He got kicked out of the library.
That's clout.

Speaker 2 No clout. Zuck was there at the same time, right? Yeah.
Did you ever meet with Zuck?

Speaker 1 Did you get face smashed? No. Is that what it was called? Smash or Pass.
I've done that, but I don't think that's like the Winkle. No, I

Speaker 9 no, yeah, the Winkle Vie, Zuck. They were all there.
Yeah, the whole crew.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's like, that's like the Florida, like the era where they had Dan Bilzerian, Aaron Hernandez, Tim Tebow. That's like Harvard for you guys.

Speaker 9 Yeah, you've seen the movie. I mean, that's exactly how the parties were.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's exactly. It went down.
All right, so you guys have, I mentioned at the top, you have a good schedule coming up.

Speaker 1 Again, sorry for the Bears Panthers.

Speaker 1 Black Friday. So Dolphins, Jets.

Speaker 1 I have a question about the Jets' offensive line. And maybe we're, because we're actually having this conversation with our friend Sam Schwartzean, who you guys know, he was in the studio.

Speaker 1 Really, really smart guy.

Speaker 1 Great interview.

Speaker 1 The offensive line, it's so easy when a team struggles to be like the offensive line sucks. The Jets feel like maybe that could be true.

Speaker 1 What is the fix when you're having those type of problems? Is it coaching? Is it play calling? Is it like, how do you fix it in season? Like, we cannot protect the passer here.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think there's so many things that go into that, right?

Speaker 1 I mean, you got to know the guys you have up front, what they're good at, because regardless of when you're struggling, I think sometimes, you know, as Fitz said earlier, like, we make it more difficult than it is.

Speaker 1 And it's like, all right, if we're going to have to be a team that we run the football first and run play actions, like, what's the best version of a play action we can do with the guys we have?

Speaker 1 And then if we get in those downs where we've got to sit back there and throw it and we've got to throw the ball, then we've got to have some answers, whether in the screen game, you know, being able to move the quarterback at times, you know, getting the ball out faster, is that quick game, whatever it is.

Speaker 1 And the problem with that is, in this situation, I don't know what Zach Wilson's good at yet. So it's like, all right, what is our answer with our line? And then what is it that we can trust Zach?

Speaker 1 Like, all right, if we're going to move to quick game because our line struggles and we want them to just jump everybody and we're going to get the ball out fast, then there's got to be a trust that the ball's actually going to come out fast and that you can read zones and know know this is who it's got to go to.

Speaker 1 So I think to me, it's about, man, I don't know if they have any idea.

Speaker 1 We talk about identities on offense, but I don't know if they know enough about who they are and what they're good at to have any answer other than let's just try and run the football because we're big and strong and that's what they want to do.

Speaker 1 But you look in every game where that's not an answer for them, it's over with.

Speaker 1 They have no offensive answer other than we could run the football and try and smash somebody.

Speaker 2 Right. I think their identity is we're hoping Aaron Rodgers is going to come back.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Their identity is watch this pregame throw that Aaron Rodgers makes.

Speaker 2 Maybe he'll come back in a couple weeks.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 How pissed would you be? And, Fitz, you can answer this too, because Zach Wilson, we said it, he's been struggling. He loves to take sacks to the max.

Speaker 1 Like, when he's going to get sacked, he's like, let me get even 10 yards further back.

Speaker 1 Like, would you tell him, like, hey, man, like, if a sack is a sack,

Speaker 1 don't go backwards every single time because it feels like they're in like fourth and 16, fourth and 20, more than any other team.

Speaker 9 Yeah, and I would say not firing shots, but you know, the work that we do watching like Justin Fields is kind of the same way where there's just some bad sacks.

Speaker 9 And so there's different styles of quarterbacks, right? And so the Tom Brady's, the Drew Brees, the Peyton Manning, like that ball was coming out.

Speaker 9 It didn't matter who was in front of them, what the front five were. It was coming out.
They were going to defeat you just by doing it over and over and over again and frustrating you.

Speaker 9 But then you have a guy like Patrick Mahomes and you look at all these next-gen stats and stuff, like time to throw for Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 1 It's like four seconds.

Speaker 9 It's crazy at times. Like the amount of time he wants to throw.

Speaker 1 He's one of the least that quarterback.

Speaker 9 And he's one of the least sack quarterbacks. So for me, it's like if Zach Wilson, let's, first of all, only scramble forward.
Right. Never go backwards out of the pocket.

Speaker 9 Because that was, it was something that was a huge issue for him last year that he got a little bit better at. And now we've seen a little bit more of a regression.

Speaker 9 Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady, too, I guess, like the pocket presence and being able to move around and

Speaker 9 be so amazing.

Speaker 9 So, stop running out of the back of the pocket because sometimes Zach Wilson, he has a hard time, even though he's got a strong arm, making it back to the line of scrimmage with the throws.

Speaker 1 He's not grounding.

Speaker 9 It's like he's on his back foot throwing it 35 yards. Right.

Speaker 2 Tom, that's what's so incredible. Like, he got injured.
He tore his ACL stepping up in the pocket and taking a shot like that.

Speaker 2 And then he came back, like, even more fearless to step up in that pocket and throw. Because, like, if you're a young quarterback, you see these big dudes coming at you.

Speaker 2 It's human nature to say, well, I'd rather run away from those guys.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, there's a a lot of clips with zach that and that would be my biggest thing that i don't quite you know say that i would buy in with him what with is that there's just a lot of plays where it's just like dude you have no feel like do you not feel that the entire line is getting like you got to be able to feel that you like my homes is so great at that the second he feels a lineman's backing up or there's pressure he's gone like he's finding a new place to stand i'm i'm somewhere else but there was a couple clips the other night like he's just zach's standing there just patting the ball and literally both tackles are just condensing down on him i'm like dude do you not feel this happening?

Speaker 1 Like, I think there's a lot of football that is hard to explain. Like when you're a really good football player, you just feel it and you know what's happening.

Speaker 1 Like when I was playing to play a long time,

Speaker 1 I could feel somebody's about to roll up the back of my legs. I could feel that I'm like, oh, I'm in traffic.
I'm in trouble.

Speaker 1 Like I knew when to get myself out of those situations and I just don't see that kind of feel that I don't know that there's a fix for that.

Speaker 9 And I will say like watching Will Levis, I mean, he was a guy, you know, week one, lights the world on fire, four touchdowns.

Speaker 9 But watching him play the next week when we had their game against Pittsburgh, like, he has a feel. Right.
And I don't know if that's because he played a bunch in college.

Speaker 9 Brock Purdy played a bunch in college. So it's actually like getting out there and playing in these games.
But Will Levis, we came out of that game. I mean,

Speaker 1 he had four respect. Yeah.
I think I gained more respect in the non-four touchdowns.

Speaker 9 That's what I told him after the game. I said, look, like, four touchdowns in the debut, amazing.
Like, the fantasy. football owners, they love you and everything.

Speaker 9 But like, I come out of this game more impressed watching you. The beating he took early, how he still stayed in there and delivered some of those throws.
He was really impressive.

Speaker 1 And just seeing a rookie quarterback be able to climb the pocket like that, that's you just see it, and you're like, okay, this guy gets it.

Speaker 1 He's going to be successful.

Speaker 9 Yeah, and it, you know, good offensive line, like Detroit's got a great offensive line, but quarterbacks can also help out a lot.

Speaker 1 I mean, some of those stats,

Speaker 9 like Sam Howe is a good example of a guy, especially early on. It was like taking so many sacks.
Now, the other thing is they put a lot of pressure on him because they throw the ball so much.

Speaker 9 But, you know, there's another guy that he's a young guy. He has played a lot of football, but he's had to learn this year how to know when the play is over, how to get the ball out.

Speaker 9 And he's put a lot of pressure on that offensive line because of the amount of throws they have, but also in holding the ball back there.

Speaker 2 And I think he's gotten better.

Speaker 1 He has. I agree.
I damn nine and a half.

Speaker 2 I thought that was something where it would be tough to improve on because it's like human nature.

Speaker 2 You are who you are. He's played so much football.
It's going to be tough to teach him to avoid sacks. But it seems like he's improved.
I might be a delusional commander. No, I agree.

Speaker 1 I agree. I like him.

Speaker 9 I like watching him play. I think he's competitive, and I do think some of those things he got away with in college that you can't get away with in the NFL, but he's learning that right now.

Speaker 9 Okay, I can do this. I can't do this.

Speaker 9 And it's been fun to watch him progress.

Speaker 2 He's 4-0 against Super Bowl winning head coaches. You know that?

Speaker 1 Oh, wow. Yeah.
Fun

Speaker 1 fact there.

Speaker 2 If you include the preseason win against Harbaugh, which I do because that was, I mean, they take the preseason.

Speaker 1 Well, preseason worked out. Well, since Matt Canada was Pickett in relation to the season as well.

Speaker 9 Since Matt Canada came down on the field, the Steelers haven't lost either.

Speaker 2 Is there a difference in having an offensive coordinator or a defensive in the booth as opposed to the sidelines? Because we've got Wilkes out in San Francisco, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's the same kind of relation to player-only meetings.

Speaker 1 It means the end is real close. Yeah.
Right?

Speaker 1 That means the ending is coming real.

Speaker 1 If you're doing player-only team meetings, kind of what happened with McDaniels and those guys, like, hey, the players are leading this thing, the end is real close.

Speaker 1 If you're bringing the coordinator out of the booth and he's going to stand down on the field, we're right there on the teeter. You know what? I'm not going to fire you.

Speaker 1 Come down on the field and let's see if we can stand by each other and this thing can go better.

Speaker 1 I think we aren't the smartest guys, but one thing that we do do very well is seeing those signs. It's always the owner vote of confidence.

Speaker 1 If the owner has to come out and say like, we like our GM, we like our head coach, like, no, they don't. Like, if you have to say it, you don't.
Like, it's coming.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if you're in the midway point and we're having player meetings like that, just go ahead and get ready for the offseason, get a plan, you know, start getting a game plan for your vacation because it's coming soon.

Speaker 9 Then it leaks out what, what went on in the meeting, yeah. Were you a leaker or no?

Speaker 1 Come on. Who was I going to leak things to in Cincinnati?

Speaker 1 Do people cover our gameplay? Would you guys, would you guys talk in the player-only meetings? No, I usually just sat back and said, you know, it's like a great just drama on TV.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm going to watch this shit show happen. Like, I'm going to watch just all the chaos.
I might even kind of throw a little flame out.

Speaker 1 You know, hey, you remember you really hated that concept we had a couple weeks ago, right? You want to talk about it?

Speaker 1 You know, I love to kind of stir it up because I always trusted I could calm it back down. So I like to kind of flame it up a little bit.
Right, yeah.

Speaker 2 Walking out of a players-only meeting, I have to imagine the emotion is the same every time, which is like, that was a shit show. Yeah.
But we all just yelled at each other.

Speaker 9 It's also you get back to your then meeting rooms, quarterback room, O-line room, and the coach is like, what happened? Yeah.

Speaker 1 What'd you say? You said it. Yeah.
And it's like, are you talking shit about me? Yeah.

Speaker 1 We were a full-flow shit show.

Speaker 2 When a coach says it starts and ends with me in a press conference, that's also a sign that the end is near for him.

Speaker 2 When they say, I got to take a long look in the mirror, if two weeks in a row, you say, I got to look in the mirror on this one, then that's a good sign.

Speaker 2 Like things, you're not going to be around for that much time.

Speaker 1 That, and then also anytime a coach talks about how good the practice was. Oh, yeah.
They're like, yeah, we've been practicing great. It just hasn't been showing up on Sunday.

Speaker 1 It's like, I don't believe that. Yeah.
That's the word. It's a practice.
I don't know why we were terrible today. We had a great week of practice.
Yeah, you should have seen it.

Speaker 1 The guys were firing all week. You mean all the plays we scripted together worked well? You run against air? Yeah, those do work.

Speaker 2 Can you guys talk to us about CJ Stroud? Because we've been Stroud boys, believers in CJ since the very beginning, since week one.

Speaker 2 We're like, okay, this guy is going to, he's going to be a better quarterback than Bryce, at least his rookie year.

Speaker 2 But with CJ, it looks like he's doing stuff that even vets are astounded with. So what is it about him? Is it the mental processing? Is it the throws that he's making, or what is it?

Speaker 9 So I would say, first of all, just watching him throw the football.

Speaker 1 It's pretty.

Speaker 9 Like, if you have a son, you're like, all right, if you want to learn how to throw, like, just watch this guy and the way that it comes out. But I've been really impressed.

Speaker 9 It's the, you know, Sloick is running that San Fran, Shanahan. Really impressed,

Speaker 9 A, with his accuracy, his toughness. But even last week, like...
For him to take that team down the field in 48 seconds or whatever it was against Tampa Bay on the 10-yard line, like Mr.

Speaker 9 Clutch and throw the touchdown, Like,

Speaker 9 those are games that are going to start defining this dude's career and giving a new feel to the Texans. So, I've been nothing but impressed with them.
I think a lot of it

Speaker 9 as we go forward, like

Speaker 9 when the season started, were we big Houston Texan guys?

Speaker 9 But now he's got me believing, man.

Speaker 1 He's got all the social media.

Speaker 1 It's that rare characteristic, right, with Burrows, some of these young guys we've seen, Mahomes, you know, where it's all of a sudden you even start believing in the guys they play with more.

Speaker 1 You're like, oh, wait a minute, this dude makes this guy guy better. Now, I think this dude's a better receiver than I thought he was last year.

Speaker 1 You know, I believe in this defense more. You can just kind of see the effect, I think, when you talk about that position.

Speaker 1 It is obviously the most important position in football, but also to a team's confidence and belief in really how they go out and play.

Speaker 1 When they find one who's like, oh, man, this dude's different, that whole team takes this step where you're like, man, this dude plays more confidence than I've ever seen him play with, regardless of the quarterback.

Speaker 1 And so I think he's got that rare trait where you're seeing guys, they find find a new level of themselves just with playing with him, which I think is what makes you really the most excited.

Speaker 2 That's interesting to think about.

Speaker 2 And I think if you've got a guy that is like elevating everybody else's confidence around him, there's probably an element of guys being like, oh, this isn't a wasted year.

Speaker 2 Like this is actually, we're in the window right now.

Speaker 2 Because I would imagine if you're on a team, there are some years where you know, you know, after a few weeks, like, well, this is going to be, you know, a season where I'm going to go out there, put out the best film I can, try to compete.

Speaker 2 It's my job. I'm going to take pride in it.

Speaker 2 But if you don't have that actual belief in being able to do great things, then you're probably not going to be able to reach that same level personally as a player.

Speaker 9 Well, and compare it to Carolina, right? So Carolina's in a spot where they've got the young quarterback.

Speaker 9 There's so many pieces missing around them.

Speaker 9 And thus far, other than Adam Thielen, like nobody else has been elevated really on that offense, whether it's Bryce's play or the play calling or the line or whatever it is, I think they're two really interesting ones to look at.

Speaker 9 Because coming into this year, if you're like, okay, who's going to have a better year?

Speaker 9 Not Bryce or CJ, but who's going to have a better year? The Panthers or Houston? I think a lot of people would have said Carolina.

Speaker 9 I mean, maybe I'm in the minority in that, but I thought Carolina would have a better year.

Speaker 9 But now you're looking at it and you're like, these guys, not just a quarterback away, they're six.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you start going,

Speaker 1 how do they get better? You know, when you look at their team, it's like, all right, well, how could you make this team better right now? Well, wait a minute.

Speaker 1 They traded all this draft capital to get him, so they don't have a lot of that to fix it with. So they've got to make great decisions.

Speaker 1 Where if you're Houston, now you got this confidence in the quarterback. You're seeing how he plays.
Every you see guys stepping up places. You start believing in other guys on the roster.

Speaker 1 Even from a front office standpoint, you start going, all right, we know the two or three pieces we need to put around this guy, and we're going to be a whole lot better really fast.

Speaker 1 I relate that to Burrow in Cincinnati. You're talking about an organization who had never signed free agents.

Speaker 1 All of a sudden, they get Joe Burrow and they see his impact, and Jamar Chase, and these guys, and they're like, oh, we're going to get Trey Hendrickson.

Speaker 1 We're going to go get this guy, you know, DJ Reeder. They started investing in people outside the building, which they'd never done in their history.
And it's not just them all of a sudden changing.

Speaker 1 It's, whoa, this dude just made us all think we're this close. We got this much confidence in our organization.
I think that's something CJ is doing to Houston Texans. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Wow, let's see what they do from here with it. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 How much fun do you guys have on the road? It feels like you have a lot of fun. It's the best, man.

Speaker 9 I mean, Wit usually gets in on like Monday, but you get, oh, boy, here we go.

Speaker 1 We get it.

Speaker 9 You know, Wit's always got some side stuff going on. We definitely always are in Wednesday.
Last night we took in a comedy show at the Laugh Factory, had dinner together.

Speaker 9 I think the coolest thing about it, and I don't know what other networks do or what it's like elsewhere, but we all genuinely like each other.

Speaker 9 We like hanging out, and it's so much fun, so much different than a player because. As a player, there's still all that stress in the back of your mind.
There's, okay, I've got a meeting.

Speaker 9 Okay, I've got curfew. All right, tomorrow I actually have a game.
I've got to go out and perform. I've got to get there for warm-ups,

Speaker 9 where this is like, we get to show up, talk about football, which we love, and have fun. Our producer isn't

Speaker 9 overly strict on like the commentary and what we're talking about. We truly enjoy each other and what we're talking about, which makes it pretty easy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I mean, for me, it's just like if they asked me to get in town enough time to film something for like 10 minutes on Wednesday, I mean, I got to get in Tuesday morning. Yeah,

Speaker 1 situated. A couple nice

Speaker 1 things. Hey, they need me to come in and film something Wednesday at four, so I need to get in Tuesday at like three o'clock.
Yeah, podiac.

Speaker 9 But this is how it goes, too. And it ended up getting canceled.
But we're in Baltimore next week, and Witt was like,

Speaker 9 we had to be in LA for something. He's like, well, if we do L.A.
on Monday and Tuesday, we could fly to Vegas, which is on the way to Baltimore.

Speaker 1 Formula One side. Tuesday night, Formula One.
Yeah.

Speaker 9 Play some golf Wednesday. Then we could get out.
So that's like just trying to explain that to the wives.

Speaker 1 Well, we actually have to.

Speaker 9 Amazon's making us.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 This is the life on the road with when you're talking about football, you have to do all this stuff. Yeah.
So what was, we were talking before we started taping.

Speaker 2 Fitzy's got some weird shower habits, some weird cleaning habits.

Speaker 1 You seem like a smelly guy.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 there's soap involved. I'll say two things.

Speaker 9 I mean, one thing was we went around the room. Maybe it was even Carissa that was asking, was like,

Speaker 9 do you wash like with soap below your knees? The answer is no.

Speaker 2 What? You let it trickle down?

Speaker 1 You just let it trickle, right?

Speaker 9 Do you guys wash below?

Speaker 1 You scrub your cash? I'll just give a little quick.

Speaker 1 It's also like counts as my yoga for the day. Okay.
Like one little stretch.

Speaker 2 It's the last of my priority, but if I'm taking a normal shower, yeah, I'll get down to the

Speaker 2 it's not that hard. Do you guys shower here?

Speaker 9 You guys have a locker room?

Speaker 2 We do have a shower here.

Speaker 9 Shower shoes or no?

Speaker 1 You're wrong.

Speaker 9 Some people have problems with that. I don't have a problem with that.
Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 it's gross sometimes when you go to like a real gym locker room that has a lot of people.

Speaker 1 I would argue different. Listen, I don't put on sandals, but I will admit sometimes I'm like, this may be a little gross.
You walk a little bit on your toes. I'll do the shuffle.
I'll shuffle the toe.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm in a shower that I know has been used like 75 times

Speaker 9 you get as much of the gunk on your feet as much as you want building how often is the shower this is this is maybe what it was get wit was getting to i had a confrontation with my wife the other day she said uh okay i'm going through the laundry you've got 12 shirts and two pairs of underwear in the last two weeks what's going on

Speaker 9 So like, yeah, that's where I struggle. Yeah, that's

Speaker 1 on me.

Speaker 2 That's all you're red-handed on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know what? I think you went, what, two weeks in camp one time? No shower?

Speaker 9 Yeah, but that was on like a, oh, I bet myself. It was like a dare in Tennessee.
Two weeks training.

Speaker 9 No shower. Yeah.
How nasty is that?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's gross.

Speaker 9 Just really pushing the limits. Pretty bad.

Speaker 1 You get some biohacks.

Speaker 1 That's great. Now, were you after every practicing game you're showering?

Speaker 9 Not every game, but every practice, yes. Not every game?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 9 It's cold weather, you know, you're not really sweating that much, playing on turf, don't have much dirt on you. Just going to go home.

Speaker 1 But you shower at home, right?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 If you get in bed. Oh, man.
Okay. Yeah.
That's weird. No, I'm weirded down by you guys.
No. What? This is weird? We're the normal people.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I think it's weird to not shower after you exercise. And then get in bed.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 9 Okay. I'm the weird one.

Speaker 2 And then you'd have those like weird black pellets.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the black.

Speaker 9 Now that's weird.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Because those get into every

Speaker 1 hairy guy.

Speaker 1 There's no way there weren't some pellets. Places we won't speak of.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So for both of you, because you both.

Speaker 1 Ended your career, but it felt like, hey, they could keep playing. When was the last time you got a phone call?

Speaker 1 I wouldn't say I got a phone call from a team. I got a lot of pressure last year.
Obviously,

Speaker 1 I guess it was what, Dallas early,

Speaker 1 people calling me just buddies, like, man, you got to come here. And then some like reporters in Dallas and stuff.

Speaker 1 But, and then Cincinnati, when Jonah Williams went down last year, that was like, you know, everybody in Cincinnati, like from outside the building, you know, like, you got to come here.

Speaker 1 You got to do this. Yeah, blame Schraeger and

Speaker 1 getting it started. But, you know, I think it was, it was some pressure, but I was in no place.
I'd been running around with this guy on the road on Thursdays. You know, I was having too much fun.

Speaker 9 I will say, though, he just hit a drive 3.30

Speaker 9 in your little simulator, which is not little.

Speaker 1 Oh, huge. Yeah.
Huge simulator. Sorry.
Thank you. Super cool.

Speaker 9 And then he went like six or seven from behind the ark from downtown on the court. And he didn't try to dunk, but he at least did like the I can get over the rim finger roll.

Speaker 1 Those are high rims.

Speaker 9 And they're high rims. So I think he could still do it if he wanted to.

Speaker 1 Have you gotten any calls? I could take it down. There's been a lot of quarterbacks.
No calls. No calls.

Speaker 9 I'm done.

Speaker 1 I would think you would. No,

Speaker 1 Tommy DeVito.

Speaker 2 You would be an upgrade for the Giants.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Tommy DeVito, maybe. I don't know if that's a compliment.
Again, life is good, guys.

Speaker 1 We're having a good time. Look, you know, that's the thing.
We have a good time doing the show. We have a good time traveling.

Speaker 1 But like this time right now, normally, like, you know, you take your normal Thursday. We finish our production meetings.
Fitz and I go and just walk the city.

Speaker 1 Like, we go find antique shops and dig into some, you know, and you guys. A couple fur shops.
We go buy,

Speaker 1 listen, we bought the crew, you know, fur in Green Bay. We bought Tony some gloves.
We went to an antique toy shop, found some old 50, 60-year-old toys.

Speaker 1 We got these ladies in Green Bay at the fur shop to describe the rabbit fur and how it was removed and the noises. The rabbits.
They didn't kill any rabbits. They didn't kill any.
She reached.

Speaker 1 She did the noises for us.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's cute. Literally, if we just documented our Thursdays at lunchtime walking around, I think Seattle, we did the fish market.
We were throwing around raw fish.

Speaker 1 Oh, so you know you screwed up just now because Amazon's going to listen to us and be like, why aren't we doing a video? Oh, well, maybe I didn't mess up. Yeah, you did mess up.

Speaker 1 That's how it works in the content business. You got one fun thing you do, and they're like, how can we monetize this?

Speaker 2 Now you have to travel out like Monday night. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Exactly. So if we're doing something Thursday, but it's like a long segment, babe, how many days do you think I need to be there to acclimate?

Speaker 2 I think Monday, it's time zones. It's like traveling over to Europe.
You got to be there, let your body adjust, and then you do the filming probably Tuesday morning. Yeah, it's like a London.

Speaker 2 And then you don't have anything on Tuesday afternoon or Wednesday or Thursday until evening, but you still got to stay in town.

Speaker 1 Exactly. It would be impractical to fly back and then fly back.

Speaker 9 Wouldn't make sense. No.

Speaker 2 Would not make sense. The environment.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Got to do it.

Speaker 1 What's the best food city you've been to? You're going to say New Orleans. We were actually talking with Tarissa.
I will say. Yeah.

Speaker 9 Now, Witt's going to be mad at me because he was doing a little Laquito or whatever, but it went out the window in New Orleans.

Speaker 1 The diet was gone. Gone.

Speaker 1 And I can't get back. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Carissa at New Orleans. I was doing so good.
You go there. We went there for Final Four, and it was just like, oh, yeah, why wouldn't I have a side of gumbo with every meal?

Speaker 1 I might have literally took down 15,000 calories on the Tuesday I was there. That was so good.
David Chang, and we did Galachois and everything else. I mean, that was an insane day of food.

Speaker 1 I'd still, I didn't eat for like the next day. I see them at dinner, and I'm like, I don't want anything.

Speaker 1 I can't. Oh, there's nothing worse than waking up full.
Oh, I couldn't do it. Full sweat.

Speaker 1 What's happening? I've been in a sauna. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I had to decide between gumbo and jambalaya, so I got to get both at every single meal.

Speaker 9 That was the other issue is we had to, when we went out into ones the next day, we had to try everything. So we ordered every, what was the thing they brought you? The triple,

Speaker 2 was it the chop?

Speaker 9 Oh, yeah, the triple chop. Yeah.

Speaker 9 And the other thing is. No double cut.

Speaker 1 No double cut. Triple cut pork chop.
I mean, this thing like that.

Speaker 9 But you don't even ask for it. They just, they're like, oh, witty's a witty guy.

Speaker 9 And it's just, the food just keeps. Push on.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Sounds so good.
What about, you guys are both Cincinnati guys, kind of. You spent time in Cincinnati.
Skyline Chili. Can't do it.

Speaker 9 Did you ever get into it never

Speaker 1 baby food good job yes I think on the noodles on the spaghetti I love Cincinnati it's baby food it's secretly delicious to have once a year it's great really yeah and then you get the like kind of a closet thing like yeah you don't want to show anybody you're eating it you don't want anybody to know about it but you just want to try it like one more time I was in the closet about enjoying skyline chili for years and um I like it but you can't have it every day like you do the oyster cracker with a hot sauce yeah do a couple conies and then you do it I just think it's embarrassing to call it chili it's the most disgusting looking dish in the the world.

Speaker 9 I'll push it on a hot dog, though, but I'm not going to do it on the spaghetti.

Speaker 1 But that's the thing that is crazy for all these people in Cincinnati who like go to Skyline for lunch, go back to their job. They might be the craziest people in the world.

Speaker 1 That's worse than the shower thing. Yeah, way worse.

Speaker 9 Yeah, especially if they're wiping left-handed.

Speaker 1 Belly full of chili

Speaker 1 sitting at your desk.

Speaker 1 That's gross. Weigh you down.
All right, who do you guys have in the Super Bowl? Right now, we're in week 10. We're going to run this.
I'm living

Speaker 1 a lot less stress on me right now because I actually took the Niners as a super matchup. So the first six weeks of the season, I was not a happy camper.

Speaker 1 Say it that way. I was really stressed out.
Like, am I going to have to bash my Bengals on air? I don't know.

Speaker 1 But they finally got it going, and now we're kind of looking like we're headed that direction. I love it.
So

Speaker 1 I'm on the train again that I still think it's Bengals-Niners.

Speaker 9 And I've had Ravens-Niners all year. He has.

Speaker 1 Oh, those are two good things. So that's why I said we're in a little bit of a battle.
Next week, we may not be that friendly. There may be no lunchtime on Thursday next week.

Speaker 1 We're on the opposite sides of the

Speaker 1 Ravens-Bengals matchup.

Speaker 9 But we do need to see San Fran get back on track.

Speaker 2 We do need to do that.

Speaker 1 They're going to get back on track. Do you think that Brock Purdy is a perfect fodder for the first take culture of like if they win 5-0, he's elite.
We fall for this. We did that.

Speaker 1 He's top 10 quarterback. Loses 3 in a row is like, yeah, he sucks.

Speaker 1 Is he good?

Speaker 9 So quick disclaimer, we're from the same hometown, Gilbert, Arizona. So I'm a little bit biased.

Speaker 9 However, he is good.

Speaker 9 Even in these losses, look, there's been some turnovers. There's been some stuff, but like, if you put on the tape and watch the game, I mean, the dude is playing it.

Speaker 9 Yeah, you guys are a big tape guy. We saw the film room right now.
Yeah. The simulator and

Speaker 1 poop.

Speaker 9 And yeah, you grinding.

Speaker 2 All 22.

Speaker 9 He's just fine.

Speaker 1 He is.

Speaker 1 I think the thing is, is that I've been in kind of that mode of like, all right, I think the dude's playing great. I'm not ready to call him some top five, whatever.

Speaker 1 Everybody wants to put him on this pedestal. And then they're like mad at the people who said this all along.
Like, no, no, no, look at all these other things.

Speaker 1 My deal is he's played, he's playing really well. I think offensively, they are also really good.
They have a lot of talent and ability.

Speaker 1 But the thing that it's like to me, it's not, oh, man, he's amazing when they're winning and then he's terrible. I think he's playing solid.
He's going to make mistakes.

Speaker 1 He's played some really good quarterback at times. He's made a couple mistakes last few weeks, but they've also run the ball the worst they've run it all season during these losses.

Speaker 1 So they've not been that kind of team offensively as a whole, but he's going to wear it all now, right? Like now we're going to be like, oh, it's all him. That's not true.

Speaker 1 I mean, you look out of Chris McCaffrey's top runs, they're barely under over three yards of carry. Yeah.
You take two runs away from him in that stretch.

Speaker 1 So they have not been able to run the football well. And that offense is built on that.
So if they get back to doing that, we'll get back to being Brock Purdy's amazing.

Speaker 9 And I think it was a Cleveland game where he drove him down at the end of the game. They just missed the field goal.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, like, literally. Quick tip.
That's a quick way to get out of media. That was way too rational.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah.
No, he stinks. I did this during the trade deal.

Speaker 1 I was discussing Les Sneed about people I think should go, like, hey, Les, what do you think about this guy? This buddy goes, wait, stop. This is the NFL.
You're being rational right now.

Speaker 1 That's not how it works.

Speaker 2 I get the records, and then if your record is good, then the quarterback is great.

Speaker 1 You throw a pin at your back.

Speaker 9 I took your advice, by the way, this is from before I even started with the Amazon gig, and you said just hot takes. And if they're not right, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 9 But if you hit them, then I said a couple weeks ago that the Chiefs would lose three of the next four.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's great. Hot take, right?

Speaker 9 They lose to the Charter, or they beat the Chargers, but then they lose to Denver. And it's like,

Speaker 9 now we got Miami and Philly. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Nah, it didn't work out. That's okay.
No one remembers. Nobody.
Well, I should stop bringing it up. Yeah, you stopped bringing it up.
But now that's all I'm going to remember from you.

Speaker 2 Yeah. You really botched that Chiefs.

Speaker 1 When they beat the Eagles, we're going to just be like, Fitz is a fucking moron. Yeah.
Yeah, I'll take it too. That's on me.
Yeah, I just bet against his hot take seems to work. Yeah, great.

Speaker 1 One of us is

Speaker 1 material change every week. It's easy.
Perfect.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 There's one big question mark in the NFL right now, and that's who's going to get the last seat in the NFC. And it could be anybody.
So on record, who do you got?

Speaker 2 What dog shit team do you think is going to make the playoffs this year?

Speaker 9 But you're already saying we're taking whoever wins the NFC South out of this, correct? Yes, correct.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 9 I always got to look at it just to make sure that we're not missing somebody.

Speaker 2 Because there's like four good teams, four or five really good teams that you can believe in.

Speaker 1 Well, we had this argument at the end of the year when the Rams were playing good to start the season. I was saying that I think they have a chance if they can play.

Speaker 1 I think they're going to win more games than people think.

Speaker 1 I think they have a chance to make the playoffs because I was saying, like, outside of the top five that you want to pick in the NFC, like, who the hell do you actually trust in the NFC? Nobody.

Speaker 1 So anybody could win it. The problem with them is they have a hellacious schedule.
So getting a lot of wins was not going to be a very easy thing for them.

Speaker 9 I'm going to say, oh, I'm going to say Atlanta.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 Okay. Thought you were going to.
I like Heineke.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You like Heineke?

Speaker 1 Big Taylor guy, yeah.

Speaker 2 He plays a fun brand of football. He does.

Speaker 9 He does.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. We're saying we think,

Speaker 1 you know what? I like Atlanta. I think some.
I already picked Atlanta, though. I know, I like Atlanta, but, you know, I think Washington's going to make a run.
I like you. Well, that's fine.

Speaker 1 I like you. Yeah, it's really good.
I think Washington's making a run.

Speaker 2 And now you can steal this take. I'm giving you permission.
Okay. If Atlanta...

Speaker 2 or excuse me, if Washington makes the playoffs and they get matched up against the Eagles in the first round, Eagles don't want to play the commanders.

Speaker 9 for the first time. They don't.
Lost to him last year, giving up 31, both of them. I agree with that completely.

Speaker 2 Yeah, commanders can beat the Eagles in the first round of the playoffs.

Speaker 1 And I think Sam Howell's a guy is only getting better. Yeah.
That's what I really truly believe that.

Speaker 2 Am I okay and truly, because I think I've reached the point finally where I could say he is the guy and we should build around Sam Howell.

Speaker 2 Is that a fair thing for me to truly believe in my heart or am I setting myself up for utter disappointment?

Speaker 1 I think that, just to my point earlier about how you put a team together, I think that you do build around Samhao because you're going to need a roster to build around him.

Speaker 1 And if he ends up not being the guy, you don't lose in having a stacked roster of talent to be able to, you know, the best way to replace the quarterback is have a bunch of good people for him to play with.

Speaker 1 You're okay with the Chase yellow. You can still build the roster.

Speaker 2 I kind of have to be. Yeah.
Because the defense was just atrocious. And in the past, they'd played so well, especially that defensive line had played so well as a unit.

Speaker 2 Actually, in the years where Chase wasn't on the field, we were really strong. And then it's kind of a rebuild.
Like, the defense isn't working. You have to try to get something.

Speaker 2 I'm glad that Big Cat got him. That Montez Sweat's going to be there.
Because I think he's a better player than Chase Young.

Speaker 9 Do you wait till after the game to see what Magic Johnson puts out in order to formulate your ideas of how they play?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 So if we lose, I wait until Magic Johnson says,

Speaker 2 it's tough to win a game in the NFL when you only score seven points. And then I'm like, good point, Magic.
We should try to score more than seven points.

Speaker 1 He breaks it down. He watches the screen.
He doesn't play around with his opinions after the game. I love it.
He He does not. He gives it to you.
He doesn't hold it.

Speaker 1 I think after our game, he just really let him have it. Yeah.
He did. It was great.
Yeah, he goes for it. All right.
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Speaker 1 Code audio at checkout. Gotten caught in saying something about someone and having them be like, what the fuck, man?

Speaker 9 We don't forget. Well, you know that Jared Goff is like his best friend.

Speaker 1 Well, he's our best friend. Yeah.

Speaker 9 Well, I'm outnumbered here. Okay.

Speaker 1 Miss you, Jared. Poor man.
Anyways, Sam Howell is a poor man's Ryan Fitzpatrick. I didn't know that.
Well, yeah, if you look at his bank account, come on, baby. Have you had it, though?

Speaker 1 Have you had it where you

Speaker 1 something? I don't think so. I think that's the only one probably for me that he could come back, but I still would say that the tape looked like it.

Speaker 1 I did say Kayvon Thibodeau earlier this year really needed to start picking up because he was not living up to the hype. And then he's had some good games.

Speaker 1 Now, I would also argue if we went and looked at that tape, it was probably a lot of Zach Wilson holding on to the football and running around with it.

Speaker 1 But he has played better, and he is racking up some sacks. So

Speaker 1 I feel like my take was a little more like, I need to see X, Y, and Z out of you if you want to

Speaker 1 get a tape, right? So I kind of feel like I can always go back to that. You know, Ryan's, you know, he had a good moment.
Jared called him out on set. It's great.
It was great.

Speaker 1 It was also the best moments. You know, and I was in between because it's like my buddy, and then it's like Jared, my little brother.
And he has this moment where he calls. It was great.

Speaker 1 I want to see him do that.

Speaker 9 Both former teammates, you stuck up for Jared. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I didn't stick up. I cheered on his going.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 We did too.

Speaker 1 You're smart, though, to give yourself an out. Like, we do that with the Dolphins.
The Dolphins are frauds. Yeah.
But if they beat a good team.

Speaker 1 Yeah. If they were in the Super Bowl,

Speaker 1 then they'll prove it to me personally because you're able to win good playoff games. And be like, oh, yeah, you guys call them frauds.
Like, well, yeah, then they beat a good team. Now they're not.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Wow.
Yeah. It's easy to do.

Speaker 2 And also take credit to those.

Speaker 1 These are all tricks of the game. We're vets.

Speaker 2 You're the one that basically told Thibodeau, like,

Speaker 2 you need to to do this. And he used you as motivation.

Speaker 1 Now it's like motivation.

Speaker 2 So it's now almost like you're a great player, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Exactly.
I called him out and he answered the call. That's right.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's like my pump-up speech to the Bears on Thursday Night Football. Like, I picked the Commanders because of how the Bears have been playing.
I gave a speech, you know, about Dick Bucas.

Speaker 1 And, you know, that was the night. And everything happened.
And so I was like, you know what? Like, let's live off this guy. And how you talk about being football players.

Speaker 1 Let's stop talking about whose fault it is, pointing fingers. Is it Getsy? Is it all these things? Let's just go out and play football.
Yeah. That's what we do.

Speaker 1 And they go out and they beat the Commanders. Now, I'm an idiot.
I bet against them. But I got fired up in the moment.
Yeah. Let's go win.
And then I realized, why would I give a pump-up speech?

Speaker 1 And I didn't even pick that team.

Speaker 2 And that would be neutral in the media. You're supposed to be a journalist out there, and then you go out and you inspire a team to win.
That sounds fair.

Speaker 1 And that was

Speaker 1 the best game the Bears played all season. I said it at the time.
I don't think it's a sustainable

Speaker 1 strategy to have a legend die before every game.

Speaker 9 Or to just throw hitches to DJ Moore and then watch him go. He's so brilliant.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 You know what Carolina could use? It would be crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 9 The DJ Moore type guy.

Speaker 1 Or a Christian McCaffrey type. They have to be smarter than that when they put out the report.
They're like, we're looking to add a veteran receiver. It's like, DJ Moore?

Speaker 1 Like, you can't say that, guys.

Speaker 2 Well, they're going to have a high pick in the draft, so they'll be a good playmaker.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and then the Christian McCaffrey thing worked out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 By the way, keep your eye on the Panthers. So we are going to run this next week, but we are right before the Bears-Panthers game.

Speaker 1 I think I'm rooting for a tie because that would actually be the best spot as a Bears fan for both draft picks.

Speaker 9 Really? Yeah. Really rooting for a tie, though.

Speaker 1 It would be the worst.

Speaker 2 Oh, you've got to root for ties, especially in bad games. It's exhilarating.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Listen, I'm

Speaker 9 we were both a part of the Donovan McNabb. Oh, yeah.
I didn't know you could tie

Speaker 1 that game. Big 13-13 tie.

Speaker 9 That was huge.

Speaker 1 I loved that. Good job, dude.
Yeah, good job. Proud of you, man.

Speaker 2 I feel like the Bengals tie more games than anybody.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I tied against the Panthers, too, when I was almost tied against the Dolphins. Yeah.
They just like to tie. The Burrow Bowl.
Yeah. All right.
Well, thank you, guys.

Speaker 1 always great to have you on anytime you're in town come play on our little golf simulator.

Speaker 9 It was more like Lil,

Speaker 1 you know, not

Speaker 1 Lil. It's big.
Yeah, yeah, like Lil Kim. Yeah, like a rapper name.
Yeah. Yeah, we're gonna now have to young.
He called us out. We're gonna have to build an even bigger golf simulator.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Your little Lil Young golf simulator. Young simulator.
I like it.

Speaker 1 Young Lil. Yes.

Speaker 9 This is a great spot, though, guys.

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Speaker 7 My second fire fest is a little fire, literal firefest.

Speaker 7 And I don't know if this is going to expose me for being,

Speaker 1 I don't even know, just having bad house

Speaker 7 house manners or organization.

Speaker 1 Okay, okay.

Speaker 7 I keep all of my bread in my, I have like a, it's not a stove, it's a little bit higher up off the ground.

Speaker 2 You keep your bread in your stove. Yes.
Like it's a cabinet.

Speaker 1 Yep. Okay.

Speaker 7 And the other night I was going to make pizza rolls and I took all the bread out.

Speaker 1 I thought all the bread?

Speaker 7 To heat up, preheat the oven. Oh.
Preheat the oven to 400 degrees. Was in the other room.

Speaker 7 I think I was putting some laundry in and then i smelt uh something burning realized i left a bag with two hot dog buns in it oh and it was on fire oh so the plastic and everything plastic and everything it was late i was like i smelled so bad it was a it was a late night like hey i'm kind of hungry like fuck it i'll make some pizza rolls

Speaker 7 and i was starving actually and then i was so

Speaker 7 uh flustered about almost burning my apartment down that I didn't even make the pizza rolls and yeah, my house smelt for like a day.

Speaker 1 Hank, before

Speaker 2 you turned your oven on, would you describe yourself more as being like Snoop Dogg today or a Snoop Dogg for every other day of his life before today?

Speaker 7 Every other day before today.

Speaker 2 Yeah, okay, that's what I figured.

Speaker 1 Pizza rolls. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Did the fire alarm go off? No. Oh, that's lucky because that's the worst.
You live in a condo and the fire alarm goes off. Ooh.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I did that one year on Thanksgiving

Speaker 2 in New York. Makes a scene.
Leroy was like pissing himself out in the hallway because he was afraid of the noises. My neighbors came out.
I was like, sorry for ruining Thanksgiving, everyone.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, not only am I not good at cooking, I can even cook pizza rolls.
So damn. I got to grow up.
Tough luck.

Speaker 2 You and Blake Bortles.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 You should get his recipe. He's figured that out, I'm sure.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, PFT, your fire fest.

Speaker 2 My firefest is that the NCAA has rejected the most recent strongly worded letter from James Madison, lobbying to be included in the Sun Belt Championship game, as well as potentially a New Year's Six Bowl, if they were to go undefeated from this point on.

Speaker 2 So, we're going to write more strongly worded letters. In fact, the Virginia Attorney General has now written a strongly worded letter.
So, we have no shortage of letters that we are willing to write.

Speaker 1 Best letter writers on it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we're going to get rejected like 20 more times.

Speaker 2 I hope you have your rejection stamp ready on you.

Speaker 2 But that's okay because we've got game day this weekend in Harrisonburg. And I know that people in Corvallis are upset about that.
Honestly, Corvallis had a very strong case for this weekend's game.

Speaker 2 So, I do feel bad for Beavers fans, but Harrisonburg is going to be awesome. They had game day back in 2018.
It was massive. And

Speaker 2 I'm going to be the guest picker.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 2 yeah, it's going to be very exciting. I can't wait to go back to Harrisonburg.

Speaker 1 It's been a while.

Speaker 2 Actually, just over a year since I've been back there, but it's going to be a fun time. Excited to hang out with Corso,

Speaker 1 hang out with Herbie, put on a mascot head. Are you going to, you should steal a mascot head before Corso can do it.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 What is the mascot for? Oh, the Mount. Is it the Mountaineer App State?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. They just wear the hat with the gun.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they wear the hat. I would love to steal the gun.
Yeah. Don't you dare, Lee.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, my Fire Fest is I was going

Speaker 1 to walk Stella down the alley the other day, and there were some 13-year-olds in my alley, and they were like, Hey, big cat, you want to take a shot? They were shooting basketball.

Speaker 1 I was like, Well, this is bad because they're 13 and they know who I am. That's bad.

Speaker 1 And then I proceeded to shoot and miss like 10 times in a row because I was shooting one-handed while I had Stella in my other hand.

Speaker 1 And I deflected and I was like, what do you guys think about Justin Fields? And then for the next five minutes, I had a debate with two 13-year-olds in a Chicago alley about Justin Fields.

Speaker 2 Did you win?

Speaker 1 No, they agreed with me. Not the guy.
But unfortunate how it all went down. Yeah.
But yeah, it was just like one of those moments. It's like, what am I doing right now? Why did I do this?

Speaker 1 What am I doing? I'm just literally just missing shot after shot, being like, yeah, you know, he hasn't really had a fair shake, the injury with two 13-year-olds.

Speaker 2 Yeah, well, you got to get your takes off somewhere.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I think it would be a great show, a great sports debate show if you had a host debating like an eight-year-old.

Speaker 1 It would be fun.

Speaker 2 And you could include anything like who's better, Spider-Man or Superman? Yeah. And get into serious debates with a child.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it would be fun. So, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just if you see me and Ali talking to a couple 13-year-olds, those are my new best friends. So don't be freaked out about it.

Speaker 1 Jake, finish us off.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so Tuesday night, I was credentialed for the Champions Classic over at the United Center, and I went to the media buffet, and I got red sauce on my shirt. A new button-down.

Speaker 1 No, no, Jake. I don't know if it's a media buffet.

Speaker 6 Yeah, delicious food, great spread.

Speaker 2 Club soda.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 6 I'm nervous about the shirt.

Speaker 1 We'll see.

Speaker 2 Damn, Jake. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You know what? If you spill red wine on your shirt, you know the best way to get it out? Pour white wine on it.

Speaker 1 True.

Speaker 2 Pour white wine on actually yeah that's true i did that one time and it worked that is true yeah it's true it's true

Speaker 1 what is true it's a fact what is true right hank he's not listening he's thinking about viva tv yeah 100 no he's commenting under pm tv this is pretty good but viva tv this week was 100 you were just looking at viva tv no

Speaker 1 subscribe to them all

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Speaker 1 Everybody eats. It sucks because you just shouldn't.

Speaker 8 What's Viva TV about today?

Speaker 7 There's a lot of stuff.

Speaker 1 Hank getting the lottery ball.

Speaker 1 Imagine if that was the first episode. That would be great.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Numbers.

Speaker 7 17. 8.

Speaker 1 18. I'll go 73.

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Speaker 1 20.

Speaker 1 What have the other boys got?

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Speaker 5 10 and 22.

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