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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, week seven in the NFL. We're going to recap every single game from Sunday.
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Speaker 1 Welcome to part of my take. Today is Monday, October 23rd,

Speaker 1 and week

Speaker 1 seven.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 What's seven in Spanish? Siesta? Siete. Siete.
I almost had it. Siete.
My brain locked up there for a second, Deage. Uno dos, Tres.

Speaker 1 We start in Baltimore, where sorry, Ms. Lamar Jackson.
These Ravens are for real. Never meant to make Dan Campbell cry.
The Lions played like they were on a bye.

Speaker 1 Mark Andrews Bogut went sky high for his first of two scores as a Gus bus ran all over Detroit.

Speaker 1 As for the cowardly lions, we're not in the dome anymore as they tried to click their shoes to make a touchdown appear, but left Baltimore muttering S-O-L

Speaker 1 as these same old lions smelled like poo-poo poo. The Ravens killed the Lions.
38-6, and it wasn't even that close.

Speaker 1 We go to Indy where Gardner 2.5 Minshew and Jonathan Taylor Thomas had the laugh tracks going in the first quarter as the Colts jumped out to an early lead.

Speaker 1 And as Deshaunce Billops Watson and his fearsome Deed got hurt, it was time for PJ Walker, Texas Ranger, to step in and give his team some much-needed aids on offense.

Speaker 1 There might be a little dust in the bottle. Hopkins got sweeter with time, making a 50-yarder in his last five games consecutively.

Speaker 1 But the Colts fat back and their protection was lacking as Kareem Pie Hunt finished in the end zone after a false flag, giving the Browns a win. 39, 38,

Speaker 1 in Foxborough, where it's always darkest before dawn, especially when you have a lighthouse to show you the way, Bill Belichick, my good personal friend, notches his 300th win and a contract extension.

Speaker 1 Someday.

Speaker 1 Oh, someday. Someday.
Big Mac Jones found his special sauce with game-winning touchdown drive to Mike Gesesame Bun.

Speaker 1 Because it was such a big win. We kick it to our producer and diehard Patriots fan, Hank Lockwood, for comment.

Speaker 1 Oh shit, I think he's on a vacation again, Teach. He stepped out, Boom.
Oh, he's on vacation.

Speaker 1 Bills coach Sean McDermotts was seen drinking apple juice post-game as Bill Belichick little boyed his team Sunday afternoon. And no one circles the wagons like the Lighthouse Patriots.
Patriots 29.

Speaker 1 Bills 25. Hank?

Speaker 1 Oh, no, no, no. He's not here.

Speaker 1 That's his yawn, Boom. I can spot that yawn from anyways.

Speaker 1 Up to the Meadowlands we go, where Bong Rivera looked very green as he got lit up by Brian 8 Ball. Saequan me.
Saquon me.

Speaker 1 Barkley had his aha moment and some cool-looking draws, while Terry Dactyl McLaurin looked extinct for the first half. And a touching tribute to my good friend Rick from Game of Thrones.

Speaker 1 With Tyrod Lenolle Taylor Taylor and Sam Throw in the Howl, it was a game of sacks.

Speaker 1 Darren Revelle Waller caught over six pieces of merchandise from the first African-American quarterback to ever win a game for the New York Football Giants. Giants win 14-7.

Speaker 1 In the windy city with the Greaters versus the Hares as Dante Just Four Men saved

Speaker 1 Chicago from dying. Spyler's secret pageant man snuck up underneath Josh McDaniels as he's no longer to see past his two chins.
Come, Jail away, come jail away. Come jailing away with me.

Speaker 1 As Jalen Johnson said, Look at me, look at me. I'm the captain now.
To the Raiders after his second pick was returned for a score.

Speaker 1 Every drive was a hard drive for Hunter Biden Renfro as he looked like a baseball player going for a walk, taking a free base. And the Raiders are showing their cracks.
Are the Bears back?

Speaker 1 Some are asking the question. Bears, 30.
The

Speaker 1 Raiders, 12. We go to Kansas City where the Chiefs looked like a well-oiled machine as Marquez Exxon Valdez Scantling scored.

Speaker 1 Joshua Machine Gun Kelly started out looking like it was a wrap, but then got pucked.

Speaker 1 Michael Jackson Mahomes said, I'll be there anytime Taylor Swift is on screen and Justin Herbert's picks are inevitable as the giant sadness goes to infinity and beyond, continuing to be a collection of unserious toys owned by Andy.

Speaker 1 The Chiefs 31, the San Diego Superchargers, 17.

Speaker 1 Out west where the Steelers D double cupped as George Slippens dominated and Jay Lean Warren walked into the end zone.

Speaker 1 2-2 Pac Hatwell put the Rams ahead, but TJ in the city of good old Watts showed some California love to Stafford,

Speaker 1 cradling his football to the goal line in a game-changing play. Are the Steelers good or the Rams bad?

Speaker 1 Steelers 24, Rams 17. We go up to Mile High where Cortland, something about Mary, could only look on as Jerry Judy got hit in his beans and his frank.
Can anybody find Jordan somebody to love?

Speaker 1 Was under pressure.

Speaker 1 As the Packers looked like they wished they were back in training camp riding their bicycles as Russ finally cooked after pleading with the Broncos that he wants to break free.

Speaker 1 Late in the fourth quarter, Broncos kicker will duh duh duh another one bites the lucks hit the game winner sending the packers home the broncos 19 the packers 17.

Speaker 1 this happened on thursday night but we need to sing a song for a good friend jameis and his saints

Speaker 1 Standing on the corner, Jameis Winston down in Nola. Such a fine sight to see.

Speaker 1 It's the Jags, my lord, hitting that's my lord. Carson taking shots to his PP.

Speaker 1 Come on, Dennis.

Speaker 1 Stop being a menace.

Speaker 1 If the Jags don't make the Super Bowl, Prisco is finished. Jags 31, Saints 24.

Speaker 1 And that is the fastest two minutes week seven.

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Speaker 1 Okay, week seven in the books.

Speaker 1 We are recording during the first half of the Dolphins-Eagles game. We will get to all of that later.
Max is actually watching the game on stream.

Speaker 1 Also, Hank is not here, which is very unfortunate because the Patriots won a game. It's awful.
I really wish that Hank was here. Yeah, we have some good stats for Hank otherwise.

Speaker 1 But let's get into the games. What a great Sunday.

Speaker 1 And let's start with what was supposed to be the premiere early game and was a coronation of the Ravens being very much for real. Ravens 38, Lions 6.

Speaker 1 To say this was a shit pumping is actually wrong because it was something more than that. I think it was ass kicking.
It was such a blowout by the Ravens.

Speaker 1 The Lions didn't get their first first down until the Ravens were up 28 to nothing. Yeah.
And we'll start with the Ravens because they deserve all the credit here.

Speaker 1 It felt like this was maybe, and maybe we look back at this and they're like, that was stupid.

Speaker 1 This may be the week that Todd Munkins' offense finally clicked for Lamar and the Ravens because they sliced and diced the Lions secondary. Lamar was MVP Lamar.

Speaker 1 That was MVP Lamar that we saw today, like not even

Speaker 1 running the ball. He didn't even run the ball that much.
He stayed in the pocket, like waited for everything to progress, was hitting everyone. Zay Flowers, you know, is phenomenal.

Speaker 1 Big play after big play after big play. Lamar finished 21 for 27, 357 yards, three touchdowns, and a rushing touchdown.
And the Ravens, remember we were saying this the other day?

Speaker 1 Like, if the Ravens could ever figure out that step-on-the-throat mentality, they could be a true Super Bowl contender.

Speaker 1 And this was the first game where it's like they went, you know, playing against a very good Lions team and completely obliterated.

Speaker 1 So as I said on Friday, I could see the Lions blowing out the Ravens. I can't see a world where the Ravens blow out the Lions.
News Flash, I'm dumb as shit.

Speaker 1 I got this one very wrong. You know what? Extremely wrong.
It's better than what I did, where I basically made a ton of points for why the Ravens would win and then bet on the Lions. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I was like, the Lions secondary hasn't been tested. This could be a big mismatch for them.
Made all these points.

Speaker 1 And then when I made the bet, I put in the Lions and then I felt like the biggest dummy in the world. Your brain was right.
Your balls were wrong. Right.
On that one. Right.

Speaker 1 As so often happens with us. But yeah, it was an asking.
And the Lions just like straight up could not compete with the Ravens today. On offense, Lamar had one of the best games of his entire career.

Speaker 1 And I didn't realize this. Did you know that Lamar is 16 and 1 against the NFC? You know what? He doesn't lose against the NFC.
There is a theory that NFC teams don't, because they never see him.

Speaker 1 They see him once every four years, that they don't fully know how to play defense against him. Whereas AFC teams have seen it multiple times, especially in division.

Speaker 1 So I guess I kind of prescribe to that theory. Yeah, I prescribe to it.

Speaker 1 I'm going to take Lamar against the NFC for the rest of my life after I heard that stat. It was also the first home game for the Ravens in like a month.
Yeah. A full month? Since the Colts lost.

Speaker 1 I always feel like that provides extra juice. Yeah.
When the fans haven't seen you at home for a long time, they're ready. They're ready to go.

Speaker 1 They have the purple, black, white, gray camo pants out in full force. Yeah, Terrell Suggs was there.
Yeah, it was Suggs. It was a beautiful day.
And yeah, it was just straight up an ass kicking.

Speaker 1 Did you see Todd Munkin up in the booth when he was, he hates fist pounds. He hates them.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like the guys on each side of him, they were trying to fist bump him, and he just slapped their hands with his open. He was like, no, we do high fives.
We do high fives up in this booth.

Speaker 1 But everything, everything came together for the Ravens today. Um, I have a question for you about the Ravens.

Speaker 1 So, not to overreact, but this is the whole show as we overreact, and we don't know what's going to happen with this Eagles-Dolphins game.

Speaker 1 But would it be fair to say the Ravens might be the second or third best team in the AFC behind the Chiefs? Like, right now, yeah, yeah. I mean, the Jags obviously are also five and two.

Speaker 1 Uh, the Bills, we'll get to them, have taken a step back. The Dolphins are playing the Eagles right now.
Again, we don't know, but like, they are they're 5-2 through the beginning of the year.

Speaker 1 They have that weird, fluky loss to the Colts. And who was the other game? Oh, they lost the game to the Steelers where everyone dropped a pass.

Speaker 1 I feel like the Ravens have kind of shown themselves they're going to be there late in the year. If the Super Bowl were today, the Ravens would win it.

Speaker 1 I think they are a Super Bowl winner of the week. Because the 49ers play on Monday.
So make no mistake, this was just a straight-up ass kicking. By the way,

Speaker 1 there's no spin zone that you can do if you're to the Lions to say, like, like, hey, maybe this wasn't that bad. It was bad.

Speaker 1 It was probably worse than you think because it could have been worse. But one silver line.
I don't know if it could have been worse. I think it could have.
I think they slowed down.

Speaker 1 They kind of slowed down a little bit. Even in the second half, they had that 80-yard pass to Gus.
Yeah. And that was right when they could have slowed down.

Speaker 1 It was like, it was a little bit of a broken play.

Speaker 1 And the Lions were still trying to score at the end and they couldn't. Yeah.
Jameson had like, I think, three drops. One hit him right in the face.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you could hear Max screaming in the background.

Speaker 1 He he was uh very bad today the whole like just in general for the lions you played like crap today but the silver lining might be that in 1991 did you know that the lions started out five and two yes and five and one they were five and two well there was just like they are now they were five and one going into their their week seven game right so the last time they were five and two they had a 32-point loss to make them five and two and they went on to win the division yeah they won a playoff game and they won a playoff game that year stad hole has to stop sending us both the stats.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Just pick one of us. So you can trade back and forth.
Yeah. But he sent me that stat too.
So, um, but yeah, I actually

Speaker 1 in a weird spin zone like this. I think Dan Campbell said something like this after the game, like we probably needed a loss like this.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, I mean, this is a bury the football, like, throw out the tape.

Speaker 1 You can make the argument a one-point loss and a 32-point loss are the same thing, but you also could make the argument the Lions have beaten some, you know, their week one Kansas City win is very, very impressive.

Speaker 1 Their Packers win is looking worse. If we're doing BCS computer, the Packers win is looking worse by the week.
Yep.

Speaker 1 They killed the Panthers, they killed the Falcons, and they lost to the Seahawks.

Speaker 1 If you're a Lions fan, there's definitely like, ooh, this was, because, you know, If you had lost in a competitive game, you're like, oh, well, a road game. Lamar played great.

Speaker 1 This wasn't a competitive game in any stretch of the imagination. No, Lamar had his way with your big-time threat.

Speaker 1 This is some big time, like pour some cold water on the Lions and the Lions fans of like maybe a reality check real quick.

Speaker 1 It's also a very tough day for the Lamar haters out there that say that he can't throw the ball. It's because he was wheeling, dealing.
Patrick Ricard had the coolest reception of the day.

Speaker 1 He had like a 24-yard gain, and he's just like a 305-pound dude. panicking because he's never seen that much daylight in front of him as he runs downfield.
Mark Andrews had a great day too.

Speaker 1 Zay Flowers is a very big problem.

Speaker 1 That's the difference. The Ravens have weapons now and their defense is really fucking good.
Like Roquan is the perfect Raven, even though he actually has beaten the Steelers.

Speaker 1 I don't know why we keep saying that. Someone has corrected me, but I don't know what his record.
Maybe he hasn't actually. He might have one win.

Speaker 1 He might have one win, but he might be one and two against the Steelers. So he's got to beat him against.
You have to have a winning record against the Steelers to be a Raven.

Speaker 1 But their Ravens' defense is in.

Speaker 1 They're getting healthier, which is actually kind of a cheat code by the Ravens to start the season with all the injuries because then there's no way to go but getting healthier.

Speaker 1 What happens is you get a bunch of starters injured in like week one, week two, and then it takes a couple weeks for your backups to get enough reps with the first team, and then they start playing like their first teamers.

Speaker 1 Also, it's like making a couple big splashes at the deadline. Yeah.
They just added some some key pieces. Yes, they're going to get a bunch of players back.

Speaker 1 They're the most active trade deadline team. So

Speaker 1 this was a Greg Olson game today, right?

Speaker 1 We love Greg Olson, recurring guest,

Speaker 1 great tight end,

Speaker 1 great-looking guy. He's got it all, except for a nice coat to wear on television.
So, he took a risk. It didn't work.
It looked like

Speaker 1 he sliced up a couch with a butcher's knife and then just draped it on his shoulders like a cape.

Speaker 1 Well, the problem is, I think I have that same coat, and I wear it for Barstool Sports Advisors when I'm intentionally trying to look as bad as possible.

Speaker 1 It was like felt. It really looked like he didn't bring a coat and then he saw the curtains in his hotel room this morning.
He was like, you know what? I'll just put these on and nobody will notice.

Speaker 1 And I know, like I said, Greg's a friend.

Speaker 1 And, you know, you have to tell your friends when they wear a fucking god-awful coat that makes you want to poke your eyes out. You have to.
I think. Because otherwise, you're not a good friend.

Speaker 1 Right. Like, you have to tell your friend when he wears something that's so embarrassing, you wonder if he should even have the job anymore.
You have to say these things.

Speaker 1 Burn that coat. And whoever told you that was a good coat, unless your wife, then I take all this back.

Speaker 1 But I think it was like some new age, you know,

Speaker 1 fashion guy tried to tell him this. And Greg Olson, let's be honest.
Greg Olson's a great looking dude.

Speaker 1 He's basically a mannequin in terms of looks where everything would look good on him. So guys like that can take risks.
This risk failed. He looked like he was in...

Speaker 1 like a Barbie cinematic universe where he was playing Ken, but if Ken was like a really shitty used car salesman. Yeah.
That's, it was like made out of Velcro.

Speaker 1 So Greg, listen, I actually like the fact that Greg Olson is wearing terrible clothes on TV because otherwise it's not fair. Yes, that's true.
He looked like

Speaker 1 if he was like in a Bond movie and he was playing Blackjack next to Bond, and then it was like a foreshadowing of Bond having to realize it two hours later as the movie progresses.

Speaker 1 Like, what was that coat? Yeah. Who could forget that awful coat? Yeah.
And then you have like a callback scene. Yeah, he was up to something.
It was a national tight end date.

Speaker 1 We're not going to make a thing about the coat. No, there was a terrible, terrible coat.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 We're not going to make it a big thing, but burn the coat. Burn whoever gave you the coat.

Speaker 1 Start over. Just wear a t-shirt.
You look hot in a t-shirt, dude. You're a hot dude.
He could pull off just about anything in the world except for that coat. Yeah.
Which I almost respect.

Speaker 1 Like, he found the one thing that made Greg Olson look not super, super handsome. Yeah, it was like, it was basically a challenge unlocked.
Can you make Greg Olson look bad?

Speaker 1 he did it good job greg yeah but he's calling a game every week so he's got to have no no no jake jake jake the moment you get a package to call a season long like you got to go shopping jake you got to vary it up it doesn't matter if you just wear a regular coat no one says boo yeah it's fair he he was taking a shot he was trying he was feeling himself national tight ends day like you said like he was feeling himself and it blew up in his face it is what it is fine listen great he's gonna come back i'm sure he'll have some heat next week he'll look great and everybody be like oh what a what an awesome guy greg olson is he looks awesome on television But we'll always have this one week.

Speaker 1 For this one week, Greg Olson appeared human. Much like the Lions, it's one week and it's how you respond to the bad week.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's not how, you know, like we can't say, oh, the Lions are a terrible team now. No, they had a really, really bad game.
Yeah, there's bigger questions. They had a really, really bad game.

Speaker 1 So did Greg Olson's coat. Come back next week stronger.
Bury the coat.

Speaker 1 Greg Olson probably needed a week like this to bring him down to earth so he can get back in the film room and get back to basics and what made him great to begin with.

Speaker 1 I would like to hear from Lions fans, though, how they're feeling, because this is one of those losses that you're riding high and

Speaker 1 everything feels good and you're killing the bad teams, which I give credit to anyone. You know, it's the NFL.

Speaker 1 It's hard to win games no matter what. They pay those guys too.

Speaker 1 But then to have a loss like this against another team, you know, an AFC team that has Super Bowl aspirations.

Speaker 1 That's got to feel bad. I think what you say to yourself is, well, at least we don't have to play Lamar until the Super Bowl.
Right.

Speaker 1 But that, now, the other thing I was going to say, that stat, the stat Hull gave both of us, the 91 Lions being 5-1, going into their seventh game and losing by exactly 32, that team won a playoff game.

Speaker 1 Would Lions fans sign up for a playoff win this year? Oh, absolutely. A single.
Yes, absolutely. Nothing else.
You can't get past that. I think they would.
Okay. I think they would.
Probably, yeah.

Speaker 1 Also, this is the first of three straight games for the Ravens against NFC teams to your stat earlier. Okay, so who do we got next week? Cardinals.
Oh, I bet. I'm going to take the Ravens in that one.

Speaker 1 I think Seahawks. Here's the other good thing about it for the Lions.

Speaker 1 Their schedule is not hard. They have a lot of winnable games coming up.
They play the Raiders, the Chargers, the Bears, the Packers, the Saints, the Bears again, the Broncos.

Speaker 1 I'm saying like the Vikings twice. They have the Cowboys week 17.
I just listed a bunch of teams that the Lions, maybe outside of at the Chargers, should be favored over.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and to our point that we made, I think on Friday, 5-2 looks awesome. 5-2 looks great.
5-2 is a fantastic record. Yeah, 5-2 looks great.

Speaker 1 Go beat the Raiders next week back in Detroit, Monday night football, and then you get a bye week, and then you're back. Everything feels good.

Speaker 1 I also love how we're just like kind of completely going back on what we said about the Lions, that they don't take games off, that they won't get their ass kicked. And now we're like, you know what?

Speaker 1 It's probably good for them. Woke them up a little bit.
I don't even know if they took this game off.

Speaker 1 They just got... their asses kicked.
Like, I think the Ravens are, at this point in time, a lot better than the Lions. Jared was not ready for that defense.
The offensive line wasn't.

Speaker 1 I don't know exactly how they were getting pressure on him all the time. He was uncomfortable for the game.
No, he didn't look good. The very first snap.
He didn't have a good game.

Speaker 1 And the Lions' rush defense, which was the best rush defense statistically going into today, they gave up 146 yards. Remember,

Speaker 1 Nugget. It was top defense versus one of the best rushing offenses.
Yeah, they got cashed. So best on best.

Speaker 1 But I, yeah. Maybe this is the moment.
Todd Munkins' offense. Did it all click? I mean, if you're a Ravens fan, you were definitely thinking Super Bowl right now.

Speaker 1 The answer is probably not because the Ravens will then, knowing how the Ravens always act, I still think they're a very good team. But next week, they'll go out and like lay a clunker

Speaker 1 and then everyone will be like, what's up with the Ravens? Then they'll just do it again where then they kill someone. That's how the Ravens do it.

Speaker 1 There was a very weird moment in the second half of this game where Odell Beckham just spat into his helmet, just like hawked a Lugie into his helmet.

Speaker 1 Some people were telling me that he was spitting on his visor to like clear it off. Oh, like a scuba mask.
Like a scuba mask.

Speaker 1 But if you watch the replay, he just took his helmet helmet and just like he was holding it like a foot away from his mouth and just spat into it indiscriminately i don't know like he just spits in because it makes it easier to put on yeah that's the only thing i could think it was a very it probably like the the fifth most strange thing that odell beckham did today but still pretty weird pretty weird move pretty weird move uh okay next game patriots 29 bills 25.

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 tough day for us uh versus the you guys just suck off the bills and the lions uh crowd yeah uh they are out for blood. They want answers.
We have answers. I think we were fair.
The Lions sucked today.

Speaker 1 Jared was not good. Their whole team looked bad.
The Bills also sucked today. So I think I figured out what's wrong with the Bills.
I think they just might not be a very good football team right now.

Speaker 1 I would agree.

Speaker 1 I think that there's like some actual problems with that team, especially their rush defense. And the offense looks a little out of sorts, too.

Speaker 1 Like the Bills, we put them in the Super Bowl contending conversation at the start of every year because they have Josh Allen and Josh Allen kicks ass, but he's not playing his best right now.

Speaker 1 The defense isn't playing their best right now. I think the Bills just aren't a very good team.
I think the Bills' defensive injuries have piled up in a way that they are not.

Speaker 1 Like Mac Jones was very good today. Yeah.
Mac Jones deserves. He's gotten a lot of shit.
He deserves a ton of credit. He was very good.
That game-winning drive was like big boy drive.

Speaker 1 And the Bills' defense, because we said it on Friday, like the Giants moved the ball on the Bills too. I think their defense is like below average right now, and their offense looks clunky.

Speaker 1 And on top of all that, the last three games they've at halftime combined, they're down 30 to 10. They've just been coming out so slow and not able to make up for it.

Speaker 1 And you get this, where the, I know that they came back and they took the lead late in the fourth, but the Patriots outplayed the Bills. Like, it wasn't fluky.
The Patriots outplayed the Bills.

Speaker 1 Mac Jones outplayed Josh Allen today. Yeah.
Mac Jones. So here's a fun stat, Hank.
You'll appreciate this if you were here. Hank.

Speaker 1 Mac Jones tied Tom Brady for the most last 15-second go-ahead touchdowns in Patriots history. Wow.
With one. Wow.
So they've each got one now.

Speaker 1 Big day for Mac. Big day for Bill Belichick.
300th win. He has 300th, and he got a contract extension four months ago.
Yeah. That we just found out about today.

Speaker 1 I thought that timing was pretty interesting that they announced it today as everybody's like, hey, what's going to happen with Bill? Are they going to fire him? Are they going to ask Bill to leave?

Speaker 1 And then they're, you know, they spring the actually, he just sent, he signed a lucrative contract extension just a few months ago. Yeah.
Funny, you should ask. We actually just signed an extension.

Speaker 1 Tom Kern, who covers the Patriots, who I think is an AW Bill, at least his sons are,

Speaker 1 said that it was interesting because

Speaker 1 only the last time the Patriots talked about Bill Belichick's contract, which is a mystery. We have no idea how much money Bill Belichick makes.
We need to know how much coaches make. I wish we knew.

Speaker 1 I would guess like 10 million. Yeah, I was going to say about 10.
He's the highest paid coach. Yeah, by far.

Speaker 1 So he said that the last time they talked about an extension and essentially this same playbook of, oh, we signed an extension this summer was right after Spygate. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So similar like, hey, what are the questions going on and everything? No, no, Bill Belichick's our coach. So it does feel like they, I guess that's a vote of confidence.
I guess so.

Speaker 1 But it's also not that big of a vote of confidence, the fact that they leaked this right now. If they really believed in Belichick, they probably would have announced that over the summer.

Speaker 1 No, but they don't do that. They never announce those things.
I think they wait just to be like break glass in case of emergency. In case something weird happens.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 Rabel was there, though. Rabel was there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think he was getting inducted into the Patriots Ring of Honor.

Speaker 1 And yeah, the Patriots, like, I wish Hank were here.

Speaker 1 He would have loved to talk about that game. On Belichick 300, Day.
On Belichick 300 day. We should just remind ourselves that Bill Belichick has the most Super Bowl wins as a head coach.

Speaker 1 He's got six. He's got the most, or excuse me, yeah, Super Bowl wins as a head coach with six.
Most Super Bowl wins in total with eight. Most Super Bowl appearances with 12.
Most playoff wins with 31.

Speaker 1 Oh, those are great stats. So these are just factual stats that I'd like to say.
And what is Bill Belichick? What's his favorite phrase?

Speaker 1 Second favorite phrase. Do your job's number one.
No days off. No days off.
No days off. Yeah.
So, Hank.

Speaker 1 Okay, thank you, Hank.

Speaker 1 I love that Bill Belichick said that during the parade on a day off. On a day off.
When everybody was taking off a day off.

Speaker 1 But yeah, the Patriots, like, I feel like as someone who goes through what feels like a tanking season every single year,

Speaker 1 getting these random wins actually is very good for the psyche because it's like, oh, maybe we're not so far off. Yeah.
You know, like, that's a very,

Speaker 1 it's a nice thing.

Speaker 1 You have to balance it where you're like, ah, we want the draft pick, but winning a game every now and then, and we'll get to the Bears, like winning a game every now and then, it kind of feels good.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And the Patriots looked like a regional college school playing against Alabama for the last few weeks.
Right. They looked really, really bad.
And today they actually play great football. So

Speaker 1 Mac Jones looked pretty good today. He did.
He was good. He was throwing it.

Speaker 1 That last drive was huge. I think he's probably going to go into next week being like probably a little too confident, if we're being honest.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 His dance after. Yeah.
Like he had won the Super Bowl. Oh, and shout out to Mike Kosicki, who remains committed to doing the gritty.
Yes.

Speaker 1 And that was an appropriate gritty at the end of the game when he scored the go-ahead touchdown.

Speaker 1 And I think he's like intentionally bad at the gritty now. I think he's in on the joke.
He's trying to fuck it up real, real bad. Yes.
But it was beautiful to see. He was just an excited dude.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And Demario Douglas, who I think is a rookie for the Patriots, he looked like, now you always have to judge it because the Patriots somehow collect what seems like the slowest wide receivers in skill position, but he looked like he had pop.

Speaker 1 But they have something there. Last thing I had, which is a quote I don't quite understand.

Speaker 1 Von Miller said this was a reality check. Every team needs a good punch in the mouth.
Hasn't that been the last three weeks for the Bills?

Speaker 1 Yeah, last week they set a world record in ineptitude in a game that was won against the Giants. They got punched in the mouth last week.

Speaker 1 And then the week before, they got punched in the mouth by the Jaguars. Yeah, they're getting punched in the mouth a lot these days.
They might be concussed. Yeah.
They might be punch drunk. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I don't know if you can say, oh, yeah, this is actually good for us, like the Lions said, because it keeps happening. So like, yeah,

Speaker 1 you might not be that good of a football team right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so, I mean, the Bills look great on offense against the Commanders, and then ever since then, they've just looked very, very mediocre at best. Right.
Right.

Speaker 1 And you, and you keep, and the Raiders as well. They killed the Raiders.
That's right, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 And so you keep thinking, like, oh, it's there somewhere, and maybe it will click, and they'll all of a sudden look like the Bills that we've been accustomed to.

Speaker 1 But right now, I wouldn't bet on it because.

Speaker 1 This is three weeks in a row where they have not looked good. I think we have a D.Va watch update, too.
Why?

Speaker 1 Stefan Diggs declined to speak to reporters and mulled at his locker for 45 minutes, according to Ben Volan. Oh, he mulled? Mulled? He was mulling? He mulled?

Speaker 1 According to Ben Volan of the Boston Globe. What was he doing at his locker? Just like just staring off in the distance? How much mulling?

Speaker 1 Scenes from post-game. Stefan Diggs declined to speak to reporters and mulling at his locker for 45 minutes.
Would you rather have a player mulling or stewing at their locker?

Speaker 1 I feel like I'd rather have a player that's. Or stew, stew.
Yeah, because if they're stewing, I think they're... There's anger.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're angry and they're thinking thinking about stuff if you're mulling you're you're plotting some sort of weird move and that's also like a mull is definitely a sad

Speaker 1 when you're sitting you're kind of yeah you're questioning your whole life yeah how you got here all that it's like max stewing is like i'm i can't wait for next week's terrible picture yeah max staring off he was he was mulling he was mulling yeah when you're mulling you're thinking about mistakes you've made in the past and you're dwelling on them right like how could things be different if you're stewing you're thinking about the future yeah and how can i fix this i want a guy that stews i love stefon Diggs, but it's a pet peeve of mine.

Speaker 1 Well, don't speak to the media. Oh, how dare they? Just say, just be like.

Speaker 1 He did. He molded.
You got a story out of him. Body language.
Yeah. Yeah.
You literally. And also, here's my counterpoint to that, Jake.
When you don't speak to the media, that's also a story.

Speaker 1 So what's the

Speaker 1 story? But it's better for the player to be like, to speak. No, because he's going to say a bunch of cliches that no one gives a fuck about.
Right. Then it won't be a story.
Right.

Speaker 1 But I'm saying, like, journalists, you can't be upset when a player doesn't speak to the media because you just then get even more of a story. Right.

Speaker 1 Like, when Cam Newton lost the Super Bowl, it was a big story. And he didn't tell you, that's a good story.
You got your copy. So if you're mad that a player doesn't speak to the media.

Speaker 1 No, it's easier for the story, but I'm saying it's for the players' benefit.

Speaker 1 If I was a journalist, I would never want the players to speak because then I'd just be like, this guy's a fucking pussy. And he won't talk to me.

Speaker 1 Story written.

Speaker 1 I'll just say that on the record, I don't care when a player doesn't talk to the media. Yeah, I don't either.

Speaker 1 I don't because they rarely say anything good. Jake, what if you had the worst podcast of your life, right? What if you messed up every nerd nugget? And you were just mulling.

Speaker 1 And then right afterwards. And I wouldn't want to be accountable.
Then right afterwards, Hank grills you for like 30 minutes. I'd be like, it's on me.
I take full responsibility.

Speaker 1 See, and then I'd be like, like, I did for our picks. But then I would do yesterday.
It's my fault. It's my fault.
It's my fault. Yeah, then I would say, what is that? That's just a cliche.

Speaker 1 I don't care. You don't actually mean that.
Whereas, yeah, if Hank filed a report saying

Speaker 1 Jake Marsh could not be reached for comment, I'd be like, ooh, trouble in paradise. Yeah.
This is awesome. This is juicy.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's also very possible that Stefan Diggs just hates losing, which is a guy that you would actually want to have on your team.

Speaker 1 I'm also realizing that, like, we should, we should teach a journalism class because the shit you're learning is was so off. Well, yeah, you can't do it.

Speaker 1 It could be like drilled into you that the players have to talk to the media. No, the players don't have to talk to the media.
It's a better story when they don't because then you get to just

Speaker 1 no comment to us. Yeah.
We're going to have to

Speaker 1 talk about how Jake won't address the media. What do you mean? you're not that's more than sitting and molly like this.

Speaker 1 No Jake, you're not addressing the media right now when Big Cat asked you a question as a journalist and you said no comment. Well, you're where you're going.
You're pulling a digs.

Speaker 1 I think journalists are just such robots that they're like, oh, he didn't speak. So now what am I going to do? I would be like, hey, he didn't speak.
Now I get to write a story just bashing him.

Speaker 1 Well, I think that most sports journalists grow up thinking to themselves like, okay, I want to be a sports journalist when I grow up.

Speaker 1 And then once they get there, they think that's the most important job in the world.

Speaker 1 It's like that. And then being like a roadie for Bruce Springsteen, tied one and two.
And so once you reach that level, then you think that the players owe you something after the game. Right.

Speaker 1 Speak to us. Yeah.
Talk to me.

Speaker 1 Give me your best cliche. I have a laptop and a Diet Coke.
Yeah. You fucking better open your mouth and

Speaker 1 give me some words that don't mean anything, that you don't mean.

Speaker 1 Tell us you're on to the next week.

Speaker 1 You got to go look at the film.

Speaker 1 I absolutely hate it when a quarterback doesn't tell me that every interception they threw was his fault.

Speaker 1 I will not sleep until until they tell me that they have to look at the film before they tell me what happened can you believe can you believe this coach didn't tell me that it starts with me yeah and that it starts and ends with me and that he's got to take a good long look in the mirror oh this is bullshit what am i going to write about also stefan diggs definitely saved himself because he if he was mulling he would have said some yeah that he would have regretted yep and he would have to moll even more it's so funny um okay so congrats to hank

Speaker 1 oh yeah still not here uh congrats to hank He had to know we were going to do this.

Speaker 1 No one gave Hank shit. He was at a friend's wedding.
No, I think the wedding was tonight. So I don't want to interrupt.

Speaker 1 We knew he wasn't going to be here. It's just very funny that the Patriots won against the Bills.
Because

Speaker 1 if the Patriots had gotten killed by the Bills, he would have been like, thank God, I'm not there. But he had the one chance to gloat all season.
And he's not getting it. He's not getting it.

Speaker 1 It was also the Lighthouse's first win today. Ooh.
And

Speaker 1 where were you? We were here. We were here.
We were watching it. There was a field goal that the Bills missed in the first half that was, it sailed like 20 yards to the right after he kicked it.

Speaker 1 So windy. That's the windy conditions that Belichick was talking about that the lighthouse does provide.
Yep. That's a fact.

Speaker 1 Give the lighthouse half the win today. That's a fact.
Okay, before we get to the next games.

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Speaker 1 Okay, next up, maybe the most insane game of Sunday that lasted four and a half hours. It was the Browns 39, Colts 38.
This game had everything. It had Minshew Mania.

Speaker 1 It had Deshaun looking like shit and then going out. It had PJ Walker.
It had Miles Garrett being a beast. It had maybe some questionable calls at the end.

Speaker 1 It had the Browns looking at what, what are the Browns now? Are they 4-2? Browns are 4-2.

Speaker 1 And this game rocked, PFT. Yeah, it was a great game, and it did last forever.
So Miles Garrett is the first player since 2000 with two sacks, two force fumbles, and a block kick in a single game.

Speaker 1 The block kick was so bad. He He destroyed it.
He just jumped over the line. And I think if you touch an offensive lineman when you're trying to jump over him, it's a penalty.

Speaker 1 And I think it's a big one. I think it's either 10 or 15 yards.
So it would be a first down. He just jumped over and blocked the kick on his own.
Just do that every time, Miles Garrett. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Or get, I mean, Wimbinyama would also be pretty good, just like sticking his hands up in the air. But yeah, Miles Garrett was unblockable today.
Just a monster. And you're right.
The Colts got fucked.

Speaker 1 The Colts got fucked pretty badly on that last drive. There was a pass interference that was caught on a ball that that was thrown.

Speaker 1 I'm going to, conservatively, it was 10 yards out of the end zone where it landed. And I don't know if they do uncatchable anymore.
I don't know how the refs would get together and discuss that.

Speaker 1 But if you saw the play, that was uncatchable.

Speaker 1 And if it's pass interference and it's 10 yards out of the back of the end zone, then there's no chance that that should be ruled a penalty and they get the ball in the one-yard line.

Speaker 1 So the Colts got fucked on that big time. Big time.
Big time. And

Speaker 1 the, I mean, all right, so the Colts, I'm a big fan of Shane Steichen. They obviously have had a weird season because Anthony Richardson is out for the year.

Speaker 1 The fact that they might be the friskiest team in the NFL. They're a well-coached team.
They're a well-coached team. They're frisky.
They've won against some good opponents.

Speaker 1 It feels like they're in every game. And they don't make a, I mean, they made a bunch of mistakes today because they had fumbles and everything.
And they couldn't block Miles Garrett, but no one can.

Speaker 1 But yeah, the Colts might be my friskiest team. They're super frisky.
You don't know what to expect when you're playing the Colts. They're going to put up a fight.

Speaker 1 I know they lost by a billion to the Jags last week. Yeah, but when they're at home, they always compete.

Speaker 1 And this was the first loss in the history of Lucas Oil Stadium where the window was closed and the roof was open. They still covered, but they were 10-0.
Now they're 10-1. Asterix.

Speaker 1 Asterix on this one. Deshaun Watson, should we talk about Deshaun?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 he stinks. He's pretty bad, and they're paying him $230 million.

Speaker 1 And when he got injured today, I don't know if he was ever diagnosed with it. I think he got got diagnosed with just being rich and not really wanting to play football that much anymore.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because he put his helmet back on, which usually with the concussion, they don't let you have your helmet. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And he got injured on a play where he threw one of the worst interceptions, except the Colts player dropped it at the last second. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's, it's got to be, I mean, Browns fans know this. They're tortured.
It's got to be extra maddening to know that you kind of signed a deal with the devil and Deshaun Watson.

Speaker 1 You've gotten past that. Like, hey, you know, like all of us as fans have rooted for guys that maybe we don't love.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 you got him because you knew he was an incredible quarterback. You now have an incredible defense, and Deshaun Watson stinks.

Speaker 1 Yeah, when he's playing, he just doesn't look like the old Deshaun Watson who was having fun when he was playing.

Speaker 1 He would run around and he would actually go full tilt. This Deshaun just kind of looks like he's going through the motions a little bit.
And when you put PJ Walker back there, at least he's trying.

Speaker 1 And he has multiple times times a game where he throws interceptions that are like fuck it i'm just gonna throw it and hope something happens yeah like i don't really want to be on offense anymore yeah like maybe someone will catch this yeah maybe not who cares but yeah it's uh it's definitely a problem because pj walker he did have the game-winning drive but he's not you know PJ Walker, you can't expect to be your starter for a playoff.

Speaker 1 He's a nice backup. He's a very nice backup.
Very nice backup. Very nice backup.

Speaker 1 Also, Gardner Minshew might be back because what he did to the Browns defense today, which was the best defense of the league coming into today, he had four total touchdowns.

Speaker 1 He did have some Gardner Minshew moments where it's just fun because Gardner Minshew is like, you know, the Tony Snell meme when he just plays for 30 minutes and doesn't record a stat?

Speaker 1 Gardner Minshew will always make sure that you know Gardner Minshew played. He's got everything.

Speaker 1 He's the wedding guest that like really cuts it up on the dance floor, maybe says something inappropriate to the mother of the bride, tries to make an impromptu speech, and you walk away being like, oh yeah, Gardner was there.

Speaker 1 I think this is the very definition of wild card. Yeah.
He is such a wild card. You feel him.
It's fun. You feel something when you watch him.
He'll have like, yeah, he'll have multiple touchdowns.

Speaker 1 He'll have some fumbles. He'll throw an interception.
He'll probably get his helmet knocked off a couple times. He'll do a dance.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he'll get up and like do a big group celebration on the sidelines after a sick touchdown. He'll give his dad a bro hug in the tunnel after the game's over.

Speaker 1 Like, Gardner Minshew is, watching him makes you feel more alive. Yeah, it's, you never walk out of a Gardner Minshew game being like, wait, who played quarterback today? No, no, no.

Speaker 1 It was Gardner Minshew. Yeah, shit will happen.
He did happen. Shit will happen for sure.
Yeah, he's so

Speaker 1 he might, Minshew Mania might be back, but good for the Browns, even though they got a little lucky there. But you know what?

Speaker 1 The Browns are definitely in the category of teams that if they get a favorable whistle, I will never blame them or be like, that's bullshit. Because they deserve it.

Speaker 1 I feel like they've probably gotten their fare of unfair, their share of unfair whistles in the history of the Browns.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, they missed a couple tackles on their defensive side today, but overall, like, I think the Browns are still, they're going to be hanging around.

Speaker 1 They're 4-2 right now, which actually, it puts them in third place in that division. That division's kind of crazy.
The division's good.

Speaker 1 Because the Steelers are, I guess, technically above them right now.

Speaker 1 And you just know that whenever any of these teams play each other, it's going to be like 17 to 15, and there's going to be like multiple injuries and weird shits going to happen.

Speaker 1 They're just going to beat the hell out of each other. And the craziest part is the last-placed team, the Bengals, is the team that I would probably feel most confident in making a deep run.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Which, yeah. It's a very good division.
Very good division.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Oh, Dustin Hopkins. We've got to say something about him.
Three kicks over 50 yards. 58, 54, 54.
Added a 44-yarder.

Speaker 1 Incredible game. Five games in a row with a 50-yard field goal.
Incredible game. Kicking used to be a lot harder, I feel like, right?

Speaker 1 Like, when you were growing up and you were attempting a 51-yard field goal, you'd be like, oh, shit, this is crazy long. And now it's like you have to be automatic from 50.
This is why

Speaker 1 the college game is so much fun because every kick, no matter the distance, is a hold your breath. This might not go in.
Now in the NFL, I'm shocked when a guy misses like a 40-yarder. Shocked.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 The kickers are very good. They've gotten so much better in the last like 20 years.
And it is, you're right, because it's,

Speaker 1 when we were growing up, there was attempting 50-plus yarders. That wouldn't

Speaker 1 three of them in a game. Yeah, maybe it was, maybe it's coaches have just learned to trust kickers more over the years because coaches have always hated kickers.

Speaker 1 It's been their least favorite position by far. And now,

Speaker 1 slowly, kickers have proven that, yeah, we can kick the ball 50 yards if we have to.

Speaker 1 And over the course of the last like, I don't know, quarter century, coaches have gradually been giving them more and more freedom. Okay, this is going to be very dumb.
What I'm about to say.

Speaker 1 What if kickers, and I know this is going to be dumb.

Speaker 1 what if kickers are all in the NFL really good at these long-distance kicks, but they actually suck at short-distance kicks, and we don't even know it anymore because so many teams go for it.

Speaker 1 They go for it on like, yeah, it's different angles. I'd like to get the extra point back.
Yeah, what if that would be awesome if everyone just kept on missing like 23 yarders? Yeah.

Speaker 1 And we just never figured it out. They've become like Steph Curry.
Yeah. We just had no idea.
Because they just weren't trying it.

Speaker 1 They could make all these three-pointers, but they can't make a layup.

Speaker 1 They can't play the old way. That'd be a a great twist.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Next game. Giants 14, Commanders 7.

Speaker 1 Supi off. Supi off.
Soupy officially off. I'm going to turn this over to Magic Johnson for analysis.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Owner of the Commanders, partial owner, Magic Johnson, said

Speaker 1 it's a disappointing 14-7 loss for my Commanders, the New York Giants. It's hard to win in the NFL when you only score seven points.

Speaker 1 I think that says it all right there. Stadthold did run the numbers on this.
He said the teams that scored exactly seven points since 1970 are 32, 974, and 4.

Speaker 1 So confirmed hard to win in the NFL when you're scoring seven points. I'm in blow-it-all-up mode.

Speaker 1 I'm in trade everybody mode. This is a bad team.

Speaker 1 I root for a very bad team, and I'm not going to apologize for saying that if we beat the Bills and the Eagles, I would think Soupy because I would have been thinking Soupy at that point.

Speaker 1 But yeah, maybe the most fraudulent 2-0 team of all time.

Speaker 1 I've watched a lot of Commanders Giants game in my life. This was maybe the most depressing out of all of them.
It was a pretty depressing game.

Speaker 1 The Giants won the game, and the last points they scored was with eight minutes and 56 seconds left in the second quarter. They didn't score for the last 39 minutes.
I think they scored their first

Speaker 1 half touchdown. of the season today.
Yeah. And then they did it again.
And so I'm in just sell everyone mode.

Speaker 1 build around Tress Way or Punter. That's what I'll say.
I think that might be the most frustrating thing that you're going through: is that your team stinks, but you have a lot of good players.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because like I don't have any good players, you have a lot of good players. We've got some good players.
One of them Terry McLaurin is awesome. Yes, so he Brian Robinson, awesome.

Speaker 1 Terry McLaurin had a great second half today, and I would like to see them throw the ball to him more in the first half. But

Speaker 1 I'm going to turn it over to actually Jonathan Allen and release him for comment after the game. This is his quote: I'm fucking tired of this shit.
I'm fucking tired of this bullshit.

Speaker 1 It's been seven fucking years of the same shit. I'm tired of this shit.

Speaker 1 That might be my tattoo.

Speaker 1 That says it all. That is being a Commanders fan in general.

Speaker 1 This is me and Jonathan Allen. Co-quote me on this one.
I'm fucking tired of this shit. I'm fucking tired of this bullshit.
It's been fucking seven years of the same shit. I'm tired of this shit.

Speaker 1 That says it all. Yeah.
I'm just sick of it. It sucks.
It sucks. And Sam Howell,

Speaker 1 he's 40 sacks now

Speaker 1 through the first seven games. Yep.
He got sacked six times today. The Giants don't really have an incredible defense.
They played an incredible defense today.

Speaker 1 They were phenomenal.

Speaker 1 I also, the weird thing that comes out of this game, is Tyrod Taylor better than Daniel Jones?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was actually disappointed that it was going to be Tyrod when I found out that he was starting today. I would much rather play against Daniel Jones.
So he did two things.

Speaker 1 Well, he did three things. One is

Speaker 1 he got Jalen Hyatt involved. So he had two catches for 75 yards.
I think he had like five catches before that.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, yeah.
You drafted him last year. He's very, very fast.
We loved watching him in Tennessee. Also, shout out Jerry O'Connell.
Darren Waller. Yeah.
Hello. He got Darren Waller involved.

Speaker 1 And here's a crazy stat. So Tyrod had 279 yards.
9.6 yards per attempt and two touchdowns. Daniel Jones in 59 starts has has never in one game gone over all three of those.
That's crazy. Combined.

Speaker 1 That's wild. He's never had like a statistically, he's had probably games that are maybe statistically better in like four touchdowns or something, but he's never had all three of those over that.

Speaker 1 It was also Brian Dable. He was in charge of the offense this week.
He was like in all the meetings. Well, Tyrod,

Speaker 1 he took chances. He's like decisive.
He's seen it all. Yeah, he really has.

Speaker 1 Congrats to the Giants. Much better team today.
There's no, I don't think anybody out there is like, oh, the better team lost. lost.
No, the commanders stink, and I'm fucking tired of this shit.

Speaker 1 They're 1 in 15 on third downs.

Speaker 1 You know what? I used to say,

Speaker 1 keep sweat, trade Chase Young.

Speaker 1 Why not trade both of them now? Oh, so you're in full tank. I'm in full tank mode.
Welcome.

Speaker 1 It's a bad team. Welcome.
It's a bad team. I've accepted it.

Speaker 1 There's just no hope for this team right now. Now, Sam Howell, I would like to see him just like give me a little boost of confidence for the rest of the season.

Speaker 1 If Sam Howell continues today, he didn't play well.

Speaker 1 But if he gets back to playing like good Sam for the rest of the season, then I can at least think to myself, we have a quarterback that maybe we could build around.

Speaker 1 Good news. You play the Eagles next week.
And I actually mean that. You always play the Eagles tough.
Yeah. That is good news.
Yeah. Like, you play the Eagles tough.

Speaker 1 I'm just fucking tired of this shit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That sucks.

Speaker 1 That was the biggest bummer of a game to watch. It was terrible.
The Giants doubled their sack total for the season in the very first half. Jesus.

Speaker 1 And the Commanders had more punts than completions in the first half. It is tough to sell yourself on three and four when two of your four losses are to the Bears and the Giants.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's fair. Yeah.
That's fair to say. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So yeah, just fucking tired of this bullshit. Yeah.
I'm sorry. No, it's okay.
But it is, it was bad. Listen, I am familiar with having this feeling right now.
I've had it before.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like getting into a warm tub.

Speaker 1 I did see that Vegas put out some stats on where Belichick will coach next if it's not on the Patriots. Commanders are the odds on favor.
I think the Bears were second. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So we might get Belichick. Listen, I've always said that Belichick is a great coach, not washed up, and it is, it's close to his hometown of Annapolis, Maryland.
You know what?

Speaker 1 I fully embrace you going to tank mode. I've said it before,

Speaker 1 that moment that you realize your team sucks,

Speaker 1 you have a very brief denial phase, and then you quickly are like, I've been here before. This is, you know,

Speaker 1 I'm crawling back into my own bed. I know, I know how this is, I'm going to sleep well tonight.
I've been through this. You do have, though, a very big game in two weeks that you have to win.

Speaker 1 Who's that at New England? Oh, yeah, that's huge. That's going to be a massive one.
That's going to be a massive one. I think Ron Lighthouse.
Ron Rivera also might be dead.

Speaker 1 He actually might just be a dead body. We saw him almost talk today.

Speaker 1 Weekend at Bernie's him on the sidelines, just like propping him up, putting the transition lenses on him, and just putting him there with his arms crossed and not saying a word.

Speaker 1 He did, he got fired up about one blown call. Um, so I did see him talk today for the first time all season.
So he might not be dead unless we've got a ventriloquist.

Speaker 1 But it was, uh, I don't know what's going on. I don't know what's going on with that team at all.
It's like, it seems like the coaching staff is checked out. I don't know what Del Rio is doing.

Speaker 1 It seemed like we had never seen a blitz before. Yeah.
It was all around just a bummer of a game.

Speaker 1 And we always play the Giants weird, and it's always like 45 degrees at MetLife, and it's super sunny, and it's just weird vibes from the get-go.

Speaker 1 So, yeah,

Speaker 1 let's sell everybody. Sell everyone.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Next up, Falcons, 16 Bucks, 13.

Speaker 1 This is just like, this was the perfect NFC South game in that both teams are not very good, but... You could maybe look at them in a light and be like, ooh, maybe they're okay.

Speaker 1 And then the Falcons were better, but they also tried to give the game away so many times. And here's one positive for Falcons fans.
Desmond Ritter did not throw any interceptions.

Speaker 1 He did fumble three times, though. And I think he fumbled at the one-yard line twice.
Twice. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But maybe he's just like, maybe Arthur Smith was like, listen, no interceptions. He's like, got it.
Got it. He had three red zone turnovers, none of which were interceptions.

Speaker 1 The first player to win a start with three red zone turnovers since 2000. Good for him.
Good for him. So he accomplished the impossible.

Speaker 1 If you're a Falcons fan that does not have like the YouTube package, so you're watching out of market, maybe you're watching on red zone and they keep cutting to your team in the red zone when you're about to score.

Speaker 1 You probably think to yourself, oh, awesome. They're cutting to the Falcons.
We're about to score again. And then it's just three turnovers.
Yeah. Like back to back to back.

Speaker 1 That must have been very strange to watch for Falcons fans.

Speaker 1 They are, I think the Falcons are now officially the worst good team in football. And they also are the best team in the NFC South.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Which is not really a compliment. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But it's a fact. And maybe you can get better if Bijan Robinson carries the ball at all.
Yeah, so he was feeling under the weather today. Diarrhea.

Speaker 1 Our good friend Jerry also quote-to-

Speaker 1 Twitter account with six followers that said B.

Speaker 1 John Robinson was not playing today because during meetings this week, he was smoking a vape and Arthur Smith told him to stop, and Bijan blew smoke into Arthur Smith's face. No, that really happened.

Speaker 1 Jerry was like, wait. What if that guy was right?

Speaker 1 Eight followers and a guy. Eight followers.
Just because he's got eight followers, that doesn't mean that it's not true.

Speaker 1 He did say it was a bad headache.

Speaker 1 Okay, so migraine? Yeah. I like guys that have we grains.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Wee guys. Arthur Smith.
I think he is,

Speaker 1 we'd have to do a quick power ranking, but I think he's... Pretty close to top three funniest coaches on the sideline.
No, his reactions are so much better this year. It's like him and Pete Carroll.

Speaker 1 The mustache. The mustache has done wonders for his like slapstick comedy on the sideline.
He's so funny to watch. Yeah, he's good.
I love him. And I also, I have a theory about Arthur Smith.

Speaker 1 I think his strategy is to get a bunch of really, really talented players on offense and then make... opposing defensive coordinators have to game plan for them and then not use them at all.

Speaker 1 It's smart. So it's like you've wasted your entire week of practice thinking about how Bijan Robinson is going to run roughshod.
Here's all the Tyler Algier in the world for you.

Speaker 1 And a little Corderell Patterson mix it in. Yeah, we're going to get freaky with it and put Cordorell out there for a little bit, too.
Oh, you've seen what Kyle Pitts does on tape? Guess what?

Speaker 1 We're not going to throw the ball to him at all. He's actually a genius.
Yeah. He's basically the allies in World War II when they staged all the dummy tanks in a different part of England.

Speaker 1 He just drafted a team of decoys.

Speaker 1 They pushed some paratrooper out into the Mediterranean Sea saying how D-Day was going to be in Italy and drew all the tanks away. Yeah, I think that's what Arthur Smith's doing.
He's like,

Speaker 1 they're going to put together the perfect defensive game plan to stop our really talented players. Yeah.
And then we're just going to just paper cut them to death with like the second stringers. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And the Bucs suck.

Speaker 1 They do. Well, I think now they might be the best bad team in football.

Speaker 1 Oh, best bad team. Hmm.
Maybe the Rams.

Speaker 1 Rams are definitely...

Speaker 1 The Chargers. Oh, yeah.
You know what? The Chargers might be the best bad. I didn't think about that because we weren't thinking of the Chargers as being a bad team.
No, they are a bad team.

Speaker 1 They're a bad team. Yeah, I think the Chargers might be the best bad team.
What about the Bills?

Speaker 1 The Bills actually might be. I think to be considered in the bad team category, you do have to be 500 or below.
Okay. I think that's fair.
Yeah, that's fair. But yeah, that would be...

Speaker 1 I would probably take Chargers over the Bucs as best bad team. Who do you think the worst bad team is? Because I think the worst bad team might actually be the Raiders.

Speaker 1 I think the Cardinals, I think the Cardinals got everyone. Well, the Panthers didn't play this week, so we forgot about them.

Speaker 1 They're probably the worst, but the Cardinals also, like, that was, again, I think that that Cowboys win has,

Speaker 1 they're living off that Cowboys win for a while. Like, people are like, look at the Cardinals.
They're frisky.

Speaker 1 They're not covering spreads anymore.

Speaker 1 But yeah, the Bucs stink. They can't run the football.

Speaker 1 They're not very good on, I mean, they're okay on defense. And then,

Speaker 1 I don't know, like a couple times a game, they'll do like a deep shot to Mike Evans. You'd be like, ooh, the Bucs.
And that's about it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then they've beaten the Vikings, the Saints, and the Bears. So they're just, they're a little bit better than the really bad teams.

Speaker 1 And I think the Falcons have a pretty favorable schedule going forward.

Speaker 1 So the Falcons,

Speaker 1 I think the Falcons are going to make the playoffs. I think they're playoffs.
I think they're playoffs. I agree.
I agree. Yeah, no, they do.
They do have a favorable schedule. They don't play.

Speaker 1 Their toughest remaining game might be at the Jets. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that is. That's their toughest remaining game.
At the Titans, because remember, Vrabel has been in his game planning ahead, doing the Titans.

Speaker 1 Yeah, remember the Titans. That's true.

Speaker 1 But yeah, the Falcons, their defense is good. Falcons' defense is good.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And their offense today was actually pretty good, except for the whole fumbling the ball at the one-yard line thing.

Speaker 1 Again, I think Arthur Smith just needs to sit Desmond Ritter down and be like, so when I said no interceptions, I actually meant to say no turnovers. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because that does feel the fact that he went from three interceptions last week to no interceptions, three fumbles feels like it was a lost and communication thing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Arthur Smith just needs to rebrand. He needs to say, like, okay, the one-yard line is the brown zone.
Just don't shit yourself here and you'll be fine. Yes, yes, because it was, yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, the Falcons could have won this game by a few touchdowns. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But yeah, the Bucs stink. I'm ready to say the Bucs just stink.
They're not good. They're.

Speaker 1 I would say the Bucs, poorly coached team. Well, yeah.

Speaker 1 Todd Bowl is not a good coach. No.
No. No.
It doesn't. Stephen Che,

Speaker 1 our friend and colleague who's a Bucs fan, will not admit that the Bucs stink. He was after the game was like, I think the Bucs are better than the Falcons.

Speaker 1 It's like, well, they did just play a game to prove that. And the Falcons did win, and they have a better record and better wins.
But

Speaker 1 his not fully understanding who he has as a coach, like he was begging Todd Bowles to take timeouts. at with like 45 seconds left in the first half so that they could try to score back.

Speaker 1 I was like, Todd Bowles would never do that. No, as far as thinking ahead.
Yeah, and also being aggressive. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He did go for a fourth and six today, so credit to him for that. It's interesting what happens when Tom Brady leaves a franchise.
It's almost like Tom Brady is very, very good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And so you can get away with having a lot of deficiencies when he's on your team. Yeah.
Then when he leaves, it's like, oh, yeah, these guys aren't really that great. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, Tom Brady really does. He's winning everywhere.
He keeps winning. He's like Arnold.
He's just coming all day. Tom Brady's just winning all day because all the places he left are in disarray.

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Speaker 1 Okay, last early game, Bears 30, Raiders 12. I alluded to this earlier that it's fun to win one every now and then.
And yeah, it was fun to win one. Tyson Pagent.
It was a fun game.

Speaker 1 It was a fun game for the Bears. The Bears' defense looked awesome.

Speaker 1 Three interceptions, pick six. Tyson Pagent looked good-ish.
Like, he looked good. He gets the ball out.
He gets the ball out. I thought Luke Goetze called a good game,

Speaker 1 made it easy for him. I'm very happy for him.
I mean, like, to be an undrafted Division II guy, to be starting an NFL game two months later, it's a cool story. So here's some fun stats.

Speaker 1 Tyson Bajant's last two starts. He lost to the Colorado School of Mines, and then he won against the Las Vegas Raiders.
Love it. So that's quite a turnaround for him.

Speaker 1 He had like 40 friends and family in the stands. You have to do that.
You're like, I might not ever start a game again. Who knows? Everybody come out and watch me play football.

Speaker 1 Dude, here's the thing. He is.

Speaker 1 If he never starts another game again, which I think he'll probably keep starting because I think Justin Fields will be out for a while. He is a legend.
Like, he can go back to his hometown.

Speaker 1 He can coach football. He can put up all the this game, newspapers, everything.
Like it is the coolest thing ever. He got the game ball for sure today.

Speaker 1 And I think he might have actually proven that he's a competent backup quarterback in the league that should stick around for a while. So I'm happy for him.

Speaker 1 I'm not conflicted the Bears won today just because every other one in four team except the Cardinals also won.

Speaker 1 So it was actually a perfect day to win because we went from the second to the third pick. And

Speaker 1 if the Panthers keep losing, like the Bears can win a couple games. And it's fun to win one.

Speaker 1 It's fun to not feel like the biggest piece of shit in the world when you watch your football team on Sundays. And so I'm happy.
I'm happy. You should be happy.
I'm happy they won a game.

Speaker 1 I'm happy for you that you're happy. I have a question about happiness, though.
Do you think Justin Fields is super happy? So this is not great for Justin Fields' mentals. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because Bat didn't look pretty good. He looked pretty good.
Now, I think they were, it was very clear the game plan, a lot of running. Deontay Foreman was awesome.
He was awesome.

Speaker 1 Deontay Foreman had 120 yards for scrimmage and three touchdowns, running angry.

Speaker 1 And we're on our, like, we have just a bunch of third, fourth string running backs after him that are running and doing a good job.

Speaker 1 And it was very clear, like, quick passes, get the ball out, first read.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 it's not like I walked away being like, this guy is the greatest player of all time, but he looked very good running a NFL offense, and it just nothing could be like, I know Justin Fields wants the bear, he wants his teammates to win, but not great for his mentals.

Speaker 1 No, no. In his heart of hearts, he's glad that they won, but he wished that maybe the quarterback didn't look so good.
Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 it's not a quarterback controversy because you still have to try to figure out what Justin Fields is for the rest of the year. But

Speaker 1 yeah, probably not the best night for him. Having your coach repeatedly say Justin is our quarterback after the game, that's not what you want.
It's Rex is our quarterback. Yeah, that's not

Speaker 1 necessarily the best position for Fields to be in. Also, shout out Eberflues, I guess, because he hasn't lost the locker room, I guess.
Yeah, they're still competing. They played hard today.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 Well, it was a battle of who's lost the locker room more, Matt Eberflues or

Speaker 1 Josh McDaniels today. Well, so last thing about the Bears, real quick, because I know no one really wants to hear about the Bears because they stink, and I know they stink.

Speaker 1 But this is one of those wins that momentarily, I'm very happy. I'm going to go to sleep happy tonight.
I'm going to wake up happy tomorrow.

Speaker 1 But it could very well be a game I look back on and be like, why did we win that? Yeah. What the fuck? Yeah, no, you're right when you say that.
Like, if Eberfluz keeps his job.

Speaker 1 Oh, well, I don't think that's. I hope that's not going to happen.
I don't. Just like as a neutral NFL fan,

Speaker 1 I don't want him in our club. I know.
But

Speaker 1 yeah, you say right now, it's not a bad week to lose one because all the other bad teams, they won.

Speaker 1 But at the end of the season, you're going to look back and it doesn't matter which week you actually won that game. Yeah, just it still counts for the same.
Let's just hope.

Speaker 1 We are prisoners of the moment. Yes, yes, yeah.
But let's talk Josh McDaniels. Offensive genius, Josh McDaniels.

Speaker 1 He does not want to start Aiden O'Connell.

Speaker 1 I think Aiden O'Connell did something to him personally because he said afterwards this isn't preseason anymore when asked whether why he didn't start Aiden O'Connell.

Speaker 1 Josh McDaniels also is now

Speaker 1 after his 6-0 start in Denver.

Speaker 1 He is 14-32 as a head coach. And they were cheating during that time.
They were cheating in the 6-0 start. He also, in the last year with the Raiders, he has lost to Jeff Saturday,

Speaker 1 who just came from ESPN and coached the team and was like, I'm not even going to wear a headset. I'm just going to rile these guys up.

Speaker 1 He lost to Baker Mayfield when Baker Mayfield was basically signed. Wasn't he signed like

Speaker 1 two days before, I think. Yeah, three days before.
And then he lost to Tyson Page. Yeah, so

Speaker 1 power rank rank those in terms of the worst losses i would put i would put number one being the jeff saturday yep agreed when you get out coached by jeff saturday that's that's pretty bad yep and then i would put this second and then the baker mayfield one third because i almost feel like baker mayfield when he's got something to prove when he's real pissed off and he feels like he's an unloved puppy that's when you get a danger you want a heisman you want a heisman yeah yeah he's a good quarterback yeah he's like a psp analyst and a d2 guy like well i mean tyson pageant might maybe be him yeah that's true he may be i didn't think we The story is developing.

Speaker 1 But yeah, those are.

Speaker 1 Josh McNeil's a really bad. He's a combo too, a really bad coach, and by all accounts, just a terrible human being to be around.
Yeah, you know what?

Speaker 1 As bad of a coach as he is, he's an even worse human being. How happy do you think Jim Ursa is that he took a massive shit in his house for interviewing him? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, that's probably the best shit of all time. Ever.
Jim Ursa, yeah. You avoided four years of Josh McDaniels.
That's a great shit. Oh, man.
It's, yeah,

Speaker 1 no one likes him. No.
No one. No one likes him, and he's bad at coaching.
I'm trying to think who would like him.

Speaker 1 Maybe Belichick. Belichick Belichick.

Speaker 1 I guess Mac might like him. He did have a good year under him.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Brady probably kind of, Brady probably tolerates him.

Speaker 1 I think Brady enjoyed their time together. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Here's Josh McDaniels

Speaker 1 in a nutshell because because he does kind of coach. He coaches, there are coaches that coach off vibes and it can be fun.
He coaches off vibes and it's just bad vibes.

Speaker 1 So in the same drive,

Speaker 1 the Bears were up 21 to 3, and Josh McDaniels went for it on fourth and four at the Bears 9.

Speaker 1 And then he kicked a field goal, fourth and goal at the Bears 6.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah, no, he does coach on vibes.

Speaker 1 Bad vibes, only bad vibes. His field goal choices have been just very confusing for the last four weeks.
I don't know what he's doing. I just thought of somebody else that probably likes him.

Speaker 1 Jake Cutler probably likes him because he shipped him out. Yes.
And he didn't have to work with him anymore. Yes.

Speaker 1 Although I've heard stories about how shitty he was to everyone on the Broncos that maybe he's like, you were mean to my friends.

Speaker 1 The best thing that Josh McDaniels can do as a friend is to get you as far away from Josh McDaniels as possible. Yes, yes.
He's, uh, it's quite something. It's quite something.

Speaker 1 I mean, the Raiders are, he he made the, he's, the Raiders have gotten worse. Yeah.
Pisacea had them in the playoff.

Speaker 1 So I think the last time they had 21 points once this year, and I think they had 21 points week 17 of last year, but they haven't broken 21 points in that span. And again, offensive

Speaker 1 guru, genius. Genius.
Offensive genius. Genius McDaniels.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And the Raiders, like, this actually was a game that the Raiders, if they had won, and they probably should have won because the Bears aren't good,

Speaker 1 they'd be four and three, and everyone would be like, ooh, Raiders, sneaky, maybe playoff team. I just can't believe that.
Nope. I can't believe that the Raiders have won three games.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, we found out very quickly that the Broncos, the Packers, and the Patriots are also all

Speaker 1 very bad teams. But yeah, I guess, I mean, are the Bears better than those three teams now? I don't know.
Maybe week one never happened. The last three or four weeks, the Bears haven't looked bad.

Speaker 1 No, they haven't. They have not.
I mean, they did look bad against Vikings, but still. Besides that.
Besides that,

Speaker 1 of the two Bears' wins in the last three weeks, they've looked good twice. Yes.
I think

Speaker 1 the Bears look better in those two wins than they look bad against the Vikings in their loss. Yes.
But nothing has been as bad as the Chiefs' loss. Yes, that was bad.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Let's get to the afternoon slate. We got Seahawks 20, Cardinals 10.

Speaker 1 It's time for Kyler Murray to come back. Yeah, Josh Dobbs, you know, we had fun with Josh Dobbs, didn't we? It was a great time.
And he's actually still a fun quarterback to watch.

Speaker 1 And it's just the Cardinals, we said all this on Friday, but they are that Cowboys win has everyone

Speaker 1 like, ooh, the Cardinals, the Cardinals, because, you know, then also the Giants close loss.

Speaker 1 They have not covered in four straight games. But they did cover the first half.
They did cover the first half. They keep doing that.

Speaker 1 They might just be a really bad team. They are now in the second draft position.

Speaker 1 They kept it close. I have a take.
I think the Seahawks are really fucking good. So they are.
I do. They are.

Speaker 1 You could say maybe they need a slight upgrade at the quarterback position, but when Gino plays well, they're a playoff team for sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Seahawks, like you, if you look at this box score, you're obviously 20 to 10. They're not that good.
They lost the turnover battle 3-0, and they still won by 10 points.

Speaker 1 And I think their defense is what is for real. I think their defense is very good, and they didn't have DK Metcalf today.

Speaker 1 Jake Bobo, favorite name. Bobos are great.
Bobos are having a moment right now. Bobos are.
Jake Bobo and Mike. Is it Mike Bobo? Mike Bobo.

Speaker 1 The Bobos are up big. And the Bobo that's schemed Jersey Jerry and had him go to a golf course, challenging him to a one-on-one match and never showed.
Big year for Bobo. Bobos are.

Speaker 1 Jake's a great name, too. But Jake is a good name, too.

Speaker 1 Bobos are having a moment.

Speaker 1 But yeah, and then Jackson Smith Nujigba was really awesome too. So it's like the Seahawks, I know that they weren't that impressive today.
I think they're a really fucking good team.

Speaker 1 There was a great moment in today's game where DJ Humphries got kicked out for making contact with an official after a play. And when refs get hit by accident, their reaction is so funny.

Speaker 1 They get mad and they throw the angry flag. I love they throw it as high up in the air

Speaker 1 as they can. Yeah, they like get in the guy's face.

Speaker 1 They seriously launch that thing like 50 yards straight up in the air and then let it drop like a hand grenade. Boom, you're out of here.
You're done.

Speaker 1 Would you, if you were a ref, would you be a like regular toss or would you be a

Speaker 1 like backhand toss?

Speaker 1 It depends on what penalty. I think if it's delay a game, you go backhand toss.
If it's pass interference and you're across the field, you launch that motherfucker. That's your time to shine.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, that's true. Anything on the line of scrimmage, it's usually just a grab and pop up.
I've actually wondered about the flags.

Speaker 1 Are they all made by the same company or do some refs prefer like a heavier bag than other refs? Oh, you think there might be some like corking going on in the bats?

Speaker 1 There might be, because you want it to have like a little bit of weight to it, but not too much. If it's got a little bit of weight, then you can launch it.
You can't launch a soft bag.

Speaker 1 You soak it before? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 We might look into that. Is there like a uniform bag that's used by referees? We should do a video of us just how we would toss flags.

Speaker 1 I think I would be like a football every time and try to get just distance. Try to hit the guy that the penalty's on.
Yeah, what was the guy's name on the Browns? Orlando. Orlando.

Speaker 1 Orlando

Speaker 1 Brown.

Speaker 1 No. Brown.
Orlando Pace. No, it wasn't Orlando Pace.
Somebody got hit in the eye by a flag.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was actually bad. It actually hurt him.
No, it blinded him in that eye for life, I think.

Speaker 1 Orlando Brown. Okay, you're right.
Wait, but there's another Orlando Brown. There's a couple of Orlando.
Orlando Brown Jr.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Okay, that's why I got confused.
Yeah. Should we do a contest in the new office? Farthest flag.
You could throw. Yeah, I like that.
Okay. Farthest flag.

Speaker 1 Like pump, pass, and kick, but it has to be accurate, too. Well, we should do distance, height,

Speaker 1 and accuracy. It ruined his career.
Yeah, it fucked him up bad. I forgot that it was like very, very bad.
He sued the NFL over. Oh, shit.
He passed away at 40. Oh.
Damn it.

Speaker 1 That was like a really sad Google. Yeah, that's too bad.
Fuck. But it is funny when refs throw it straight up in the air out of anger.
Yes. Yes.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, Seahawks good, Cardinals bad. Yeah, that's pretty much.
That was my take. I'm going to keep taking the Cardinals in the first half because

Speaker 1 they're fun in the first half. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They hang hang around in the first half and then things just kind of fall apart josh dobbs has to try to do it all on his own and josh dobbs can't do it all on his own and so then you get these these massive second half swings but yeah they're they're they're fun to watch they'll give you a good half of football yeah and when i say seahawks good um

Speaker 1 i think the seahawks

Speaker 1 a game could compete with anyone in the nfc yeah they have not played their a game like the bengals game they played last week was not their a game today was not their a game i think if they ever come up with their a game I think they have enough talent on both sides of the ball to compete with everyone.

Speaker 1 I'm mad that we lost a Witherspoon interception today. I know.
That's a bummer. I know.
For a personal foul roughing the quarterback. Yeah, Witherspoon is, I continue to just love watching him play.

Speaker 1 He seems like he could be defensive rookie of the year.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's just cool.
It's cool to see the Seahawks with another elite cornerback out. Our guy, Tom Fernelli, told us about Devin Witherspoon.
He played at Illinois. DBU.

Speaker 1 I wonder how Tom's doing right now with Illinois football. What happened? I didn't catch it.
We'll talk about it on Wednesday. I'll be in Wisconsin, right? Yeah, we'll talk about it on Wednesday.

Speaker 1 Did you watch the game? I did. I watched the whole game.
Yeah, Tom was throwing every reverse jinx in the world at me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Conceding defeat when we were still down like double digits. It is kind of crazy.
They do have great, great defensive backs that come out of Illinois. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. No, I mean, Devin Witherspoon is legit, really, really good.
And I think the, yeah, I'm high on the Seahawks. I'm buying on the Seahawks.

Speaker 1 All right. Here's a game where I don't know what either team is.

Speaker 1 The Steelers 24, the Rams 17. I think the Rams might stink, and I think the Steelers might be good, but I also could be told otherwise and be like, yeah, you know what? You're right.
I'm wrong.

Speaker 1 So we're going to repeat this. The Steelers have a 12-4 record in games after the bye week under Mike Tomlin.
As an underdog, Mike Tomlin is now 56-30 against the spread. Yep.

Speaker 1 We're very dumb.

Speaker 1 We're very dumb, but

Speaker 1 if you give us the same trend for like six years in a row, we'll eventually catch up to it and learn from that. Mike Tomlin is the easiest coach to bet.
Yes. He is.
Who do they play next week?

Speaker 1 Let's play whose lines anyway. Who the Steelers play? Home against the Jacksonville Jaguars.
All right. Give us whose lines anyway.
I'm going to say

Speaker 1 Steelers by. I think he'd just be a pick.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That could just be a pick. Yeah.
And I'm going to take the Jaguars. Well, it depends.
If it's plus one.

Speaker 1 The line is Jaguars minus one and a half. Okay, so yeah, take the Steelers.
You might take take the Steelers then. Yeah, you have to take the Steelers.
And if it switches, then go back on the Jacks.

Speaker 1 So Kenny Pickett had the best fourth quarter of his entire career today. Well, I was going to say the reason why I think the Steelers might be good is their defense is good.

Speaker 1 And Deontay Johnson coming back is a like, you can see how the offense is completely different when they have a really good possession receiver that... Kenny Pickett can go to.

Speaker 1 Yeah, also the offense is a lot better when the refs give you an extra half yard. That's true.
That was helpful for them. And then Sean McVay just staring helplessly at the scoreboard, being like,

Speaker 1 Why couldn't I have missed this game for the birth of my son today? I know. I got that prediction wrong.

Speaker 1 He was not born today. Yeah, the

Speaker 1 coach without a challenge when he knows that he's right. Just helpless.
The saddest feeling in the world.

Speaker 1 And we got very confused because that's where the new rule came in this year: where if you don't get a fourth down, if you don't get the first down on it, it's automatically reviewed, right, Jake?

Speaker 1 And then if you do get it, it's not automatically reviewed. So, according to our presentation in the preseason, correct.
If it is a failed fourth-down conversion, auto-review.

Speaker 1 But since this was ruled successful on the field, a challenge would be required. They had no timeouts.
They could not challenge. It was snapped at 224, I believe.
So, game over. Got it.

Speaker 1 The Steelers, though, credit to the Steelers, they are outside of obviously the Niners game and the Texans game. Like, their wins, there is a formula.

Speaker 1 They just basically have their defense keep them in it long enough for their offense to wake up. Yeah, they just grind you down on offense.
And then George Pickens is the funniest player in the NFL.

Speaker 1 Oh, the best. He is so funny.
I love George Pickens.

Speaker 1 I love watching him because not only does he throw like hilarious blocks, but he also just is liable at any point in time to start a fight with the other team or the ref or his own teammate.

Speaker 1 The moment when he had his hands up after the play, and you're like, you know, he is getting a flag. Yeah, George Pickens did something very illegal.

Speaker 1 He also does the thing where he catches a ball close to the sideline and he'll just hold the ball out over the sideline like out of bounds. Yeah.
But he's not out of bounds. But the ball is.

Speaker 1 But the ball is. Yeah.
And he just kind of

Speaker 1 he talks trash mid play. He needs a get back guy.
Yeah. He's a bet guy.

Speaker 1 He needs a like little buddy that just runs next to him and grabs him after every catch. It's like, hey, don't throw the ball in the defensive back's face.

Speaker 1 And you saw when Deontay Johnson got a similar penalty,

Speaker 1 Mike Tomlin and I think Deontay Johnson were like very upset because it's like, that's we, we, in the algorithm, like the game script, we already have baked in at least two penalties for George Pickens.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we can't have other wide receivers getting them. Everyone's got to play a clean game except for George because you're not going to get a clean game out of George ever.
Right.

Speaker 1 And that's okay because you can play on the edge with a guy like that. You can have one guy do that.
It's very funny that his name is George. Yeah.
It's great. It's great.
Come on, George.

Speaker 1 It's, it's, he is so much fun to watch. And they're, yeah, I think their offense, like Jalen Warren is good.
Najee even looked good.

Speaker 1 I think the Steelers might be good. I I actually, I just pulled up their schedule.
So

Speaker 1 I think they are going to beat the Jags,

Speaker 1 and everyone's going to be really high on the Steelers. Then they have what looks like a primetime game.
I think it's a Thursday night game at home against the Titans.

Speaker 1 They'll be like five-point favorites. They'll lose outright.
And then they go to the Packers. And maybe if the Packers win a game or two, they'll be underdogs and they'll kill the Packers.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That feels right.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Did you see Trevor Lawrence's tweet that he had, though?

Speaker 1 Wait, was that a parody? No, no, this is actually Trevor Lawrence. Really? He tweeted, y'all keep your opinions and we'll keep finding ways to win.
Eyeball emoji, hashtag analysts.

Speaker 1 And then it's just a picture of Trevor Lawrence. Oh, I thought that was.

Speaker 1 I thought that was.

Speaker 1 No, this is officially Trevor Lawrence. Oh, yeah, because it's two E's at the end.
Yeah. That's why I thought it was maybe a fake account.
No, that's his. So he went hashtag analysts on us.

Speaker 1 I don't know what analysts. I like that.
Have you been hearing a lot of Trevor Lawrence hate out there from the analyst community? Also, Trevor Lawrence talks shit? I guess so.

Speaker 1 Y'all keep your opinions, and we'll keep finding ways to win. Eyeballs.
Hashtag analysts. That makes no sense.
Are the Rams bad?

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't know if the Rams are bad.
I think the Rams are perfectly average. I think they're like a very average team.

Speaker 1 Matt Stafford is, he goes through his little streaks, but I think he's still pretty good. Puka Naku is awesome.
He's awesome. So much fun to say.

Speaker 1 And then obviously Cooper Cup, they can score points,

Speaker 1 but I don't think they're bad. I don't think they're good.
I think they're just there. I think the Rams are like the perfect team for Los Angeles this year.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 They're just, I'm looking at like all their games right now. Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know what to make of the Rams. Because they clearly are not good.
No.

Speaker 1 But they probably aren't bad. I think they're the most perfectly average in the NFL.
Yeah, they're right in the middle where they'll just beat all the bad teams and lose to all the good ones.

Speaker 1 So by that means that the Steelers are good. The Steelers are good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Steelers are like the Dan Campbell team. They'll just drag you out to the depths of the water and just make you just swim and outlast you until you drown.

Speaker 1 And TJ Watt, TJ Watt is does everything. He makes at least one or two plays a game that changes the game.
Yeah, and the interception was that today. Who's the guy from Wisconsin that's like mini to J.

Speaker 1 Watt? Herbig. Herbig.
Nick

Speaker 1 Erbig. Nick Erbig.

Speaker 1 I think I'm pronouncing it right. Nicholas Erbig.
Yeah. Okay.
Yeah. Yeah, they just draft all Wisconsin guys.
Smart move. Yeah.
Play defense. Um, but yeah, I guess I think the Steelers are good.

Speaker 1 That's my take on the Steelers, yeah. And they also

Speaker 1 turned this into a home game. Every Steelers away game is kind of a home game, but especially in LA.
There's like this,

Speaker 1 the community of Steelers fans that moves out of Pittsburgh and then retains the Steelers as being their anchor to their hometown is very, very impressive.

Speaker 1 Well, it's, I mean, there is like actual sociological would it be? I don't know, it's getting late. Studies about the diaspora of Pittsburgh because obviously they had all the Steels,

Speaker 1 and all this booming industry and then it all went away. So everyone moved away and now they're just Steelers fans everywhere.
Yeah, that's the one thing that they keep.

Speaker 1 God bless them. Yeah, I mean it is

Speaker 1 true. Like

Speaker 1 you meet someone from Pittsburgh, you know right away and it's Stillers. Here we go Stillers.
Stillers.

Speaker 1 And then we got the baseball Stillers. Who was the

Speaker 1 hockey Stillers? Who was the rapper that was at the game that turned into a strip club? Oh, yeah. Blue Face, right? Blue face.
Blue face turned the Rams sideline suite into a strip club.

Speaker 1 He had like, how many hoes did he have? I want to show you a shitload of hoes. He had like six or seven hose down there.
He was just throwing. Okay, so he's making it rain on him.
It was one of those

Speaker 1 sideline suites. Yeah, it was down on the field level.
Below field level almost.

Speaker 1 He was making it rain with $1 bills, which is how

Speaker 1 somebody that

Speaker 1 didn't have a lot of money would make it rain. It depends, though.
He spent all his money on the hose. It depends on how many $1 bills.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, if you get $50,000 in $1 bills, now you're all, that's balling. Yeah, that's true.
But if it's like, if he got like $10,000, if he got like, you know, $10,000 with $1 bills, come on.

Speaker 1 If he's making it rain for the entire game with $1 bills, then he never stops.

Speaker 1 He's got TJ Watts motor making it rain. It's a downpour out there.
Then that's cool. But if he does that like once a quarter, not that cool with one.
I'd agree. Yeah, people were not happy about it.

Speaker 1 That actually happened. Yeah, yeah, it would happen.
Well, you think we made that up? I mean, I don't. That's it.
I guess it does kind of sound like a Mad Libs

Speaker 1 to a Rams game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you can do whatever you want at Rams games. Oh, my goodness.
Stillers fans don't care. No,

Speaker 1 probably could have used some tail towels down there after it was over. Yeah, there's just, I'll tell you one thing.
If I know anything about people from Pittsburgh, they're strip club guys. Yep.

Speaker 1 They are. And I say that in a very loving way.
They are. West Virginia,

Speaker 1 Pittsburgh, Western PA, strip clubs. They like them.

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Speaker 1 Love it. Okay, last two games: Broncos, Packers, Broncos, 19, Packers, 17.
The Broncos get a win.

Speaker 1 Congrats. It's their first time they've lost 10 straight games while they were winning at halftime.
Wow. And so congrats to the Broncos for overcoming that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and they blanked the Packers in the first half. Packers' offense looks real bad.

Speaker 1 The Broncos defense is not good, but they've actually had two good games in a row.

Speaker 1 And yeah,

Speaker 1 I mean, I'm kind of happy because the Packers' offense looks really bad and Jordan Love does not look good. I think they had, I saw some crazy stat.

Speaker 1 The Packers had 10 guys catch a pass, but none of them got over 35 yards receiving. That's pretty impressive.
That means that you really are looking for answers everywhere.

Speaker 1 He doesn't have a number one.

Speaker 1 He doesn't have anything. The Broncos are kind of looking to trade everybody, but also kind of not.
Did you see those reports? Yeah. It's like they're dipping their toe in.

Speaker 1 They're accepting calls from anybody, but they're not reaching out to trade anybody.

Speaker 1 It's like if you're, we're not getting divorced, but we are, we have logged on to Tinder and we have Tinder accounts right now.

Speaker 1 Right. Like we still love each other, but if you make an offer.
Yeah, I'm listening. Yeah, we absolutely are listening.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and the Broncos, I mean, turns out that running, I know that the entire internet had a years or multiple year long debate about Russ cooking.

Speaker 1 When Russ has a good running game, he can cook a little bit better because the Broncos ran the ball very well today.

Speaker 1 He threw some some good passes. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But it helped. And he's also running the ball a little bit more.
So

Speaker 1 he looks spry and younger than he did at the start of the season. Yeah, not as short.
Yeah, not as stocky.

Speaker 1 He is a thick boy now.

Speaker 1 Jordan Love is not good.

Speaker 1 Jury's still out. I'm going to give Jordan Love.
Okay, fine. Actually, I'm fine with that.
I'm fine with that. I'm going to give him some.
I'm fine with that. I'm fine with that.

Speaker 1 Actually, your biggest hope would be for.

Speaker 1 Let's go into next season. Growing pains, guys.
Growing pains. Growing pains.
It's too early to tell. The Packers are another bummer team right now.

Speaker 1 I thought for sure that was just like the Packers, they always fucking find lucky ways.

Speaker 1 That touchdown pass that he had where he just rifled it from four yards away and it bounced off one of his guys perfectly into his other guy. Jalen Reed, I think, caught it.

Speaker 1 I was like, this motherfucker, they're going to get away with this. They're going to win this game.
No, I don't.

Speaker 1 The Packers are not good. Yeah, they're not a good team overall.
A.J. Dillon looked pretty good today, though.
Yeah, he was he was moving around back there a little bit.

Speaker 1 He's a big boy, another thick boy out there. Yeah.
So

Speaker 1 the Packers have the bummer bowl next week against the Vikings.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
That's. We're going to have to watch that.
The NFC North is not good. There's a lot of bad days.

Speaker 1 The Lions and the Lions stunk today. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, the NFC North had a bad day. Yeah.
This is like, well, actually, the Bears won. So I guess we kind of wait to prop everyone up.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But yeah, both these teams, Packers, Broncos, just downers, downers teams. Great uniform matchup whenever they play.
Just thinks of the Super Bowl, whatever year it was, 97. Yeah, Farv Elway.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Gilbert Brown. Yeah.
Mark Schlareth. Gilbert Brown was so fat.
He was so fat. He was like 400 pounds.
He was so. I remember I read an article.
John Elway helicopter. That was a great Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 There was a Sports Illustrated article leading up to that Super Bowl where it was talking about how the Broncos were going to play against Gilbert Brown.

Speaker 1 And it was basically like Mark Schlareth pisses himself multiple times a game. Yeah.
How do you like that, Gilbert Brown? Yeah. Probably not so happy now, are you?

Speaker 1 And the Broncos won even when Terrell Davis had a migraine. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So they actually kind of won double. You should take away a Packers Super Bowl for that.

Speaker 1 If you're into that kind of thing.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Last game. Chiefs, Chargers.

Speaker 1 The Chargers are the worst. I hate them so much.

Speaker 1 Did you think Travis Kelsey might

Speaker 1 be important to the Chiefs' offense? That first half was insane. He had nine catches for 124 yards.
By the way, we should say for anyone who had the over,

Speaker 1 that was one of the worst losses. I'm sorry.
sorry. I'm sorry that you had to.

Speaker 1 Like that, 30, 41 points in the first half, no points in the second half until the very end when the Chiefs scored a touchdown. That was me for the picks.
Oh, yeah. I'm sorry, Jake.

Speaker 1 You thought that that looked like it was going to be a 75-point game. Instant classic.
We should also congratulate the Chiefs for winning the AFC West. Yes.
Congratulations to the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 Patrick Mahomes, 29-3 against the AFC West.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Chargers are, I think they have gone from

Speaker 1 maybe if they get healthy, maybe if they get some things right, to they just aren't good. Well, the defense stinks.
Stinks. Defense is second to last in total defense.

Speaker 1 Brandon Staley did say after the game, though, we need to hit the reset button. Oh.
So they're hitting resets. Well, the Bears are a good team to reset against.

Speaker 1 We'll see what they do next week, but they're officially resetting their season.

Speaker 1 It's a good time to do it. Mahomes was 20 of 23 in the first half for 321 yards and three touchdowns.
Want to hear another crazy stat? Yeah. So I think in the fourth quarter, Travis Kelsey had,

Speaker 1 it wasn't a drop pass, it was an incompletion. It had broken a streak that they had where Patrick Mahomes passes to Travis Kelsey, 29 targets in a row, became a completion.
Yeah. 29 in a row.

Speaker 1 And you know what's crazy is as bad and as unlucky that we think that the Chargers are.

Speaker 1 There's actually services that track like dropped passes, dropped interceptions, like just pure luck, fumble luck, that sort of thing.

Speaker 1 The Chargers are somehow the most lucky team in the NFL this year in terms of those weird plays that go back and forth.

Speaker 1 The Chargers

Speaker 1 are the most lucky team.

Speaker 1 They're just, they're a bummer to watch too, even though they should be fun.

Speaker 1 And Justin Herbert, I know he's got an injured finger on his other hand, but that interception he threw in the second half, like, I know that it got tipped, but it wasn't...

Speaker 1 It wasn't going anywhere good. They're hitting reset, though, big cat.
They're hitting reset. It's reset time.
Reset. Also, I forgot to mention this when we're talking about Jordan Love.

Speaker 1 The interception Jordan Love had at the end of that game is almost the exact same interception he had at the end of what was the Raiders game. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Where it's like third and long, and then he just airmails a punt like 40 yards down right into someone's stomach.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's bad decision-making by Jordan Love. Yes.

Speaker 1 Other things. McColl Hardman,

Speaker 1 we called the Chiefs. They've reached their final form of being the Patriots, just dominating teams.
Even so,

Speaker 1 they're now doing it a little bit different way where they're sneaking up.

Speaker 1 Like if you're not watching these games, if you're not paying attention, you would be surprised to know that the Chiefs have a really good defense now.

Speaker 1 So like they're shapeshifting every year to year. Patrick Mahomes, I think that was his first

Speaker 1 like

Speaker 1 touchdown pass over 20 yards this year. Like he hasn't been throwing deep because that's just how teams have been defending him.

Speaker 1 So they're shapeshifting and they're now winning in a completely, not a completely different way because it's still Mahomes, but it's definitely a different way than they were winning three years ago.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And part of becoming the Patriots is they brought back McColl Hardman, and he had a 50-yard punt return that sealed the game. Yeah, how crazy is it that the Chiefs had Tyreek Hill on this team?

Speaker 1 I know. But that's it.
Yeah, right. Like, that's exactly.
That's a perfect example. Like, they used to do it this way.
Now they're doing it a different way.

Speaker 1 The end result is they keep winning and they're the best team in the AFC. And it seemed like today that Andy wasn't doing so much of the goofy shit where he's like fucking around with the other team.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It seems like the Chiefs, we always talk about them flipping the Switch.
I think Switch has officially been activated. No, they're just a really fucking good team.
And if you're a Chiefs fan,

Speaker 1 does it still bring you the same amount of joy watching the Bills lose? Like, are you still really amped up

Speaker 1 knowing that maybe the Bills aren't even that good this year? Like, are you still happy? How long is that going to last?

Speaker 1 Yeah, who in the AFC, now that we know, we alluded to this earlier, but I think the Ravens might be the second best team in the AFC. Yeah, like public enemy.
And then we actually have to say that now.

Speaker 1 Public enemy number one for Chiefs fans when you're like, how come you're sucking this team's dick and you don't say anything about the Chiefs? I feel like it's probably the Ravens. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do the Chiefs and Ravens play? I hope they do. I hope they do.
That would be a great game. It would be the Ravens and they probably still love it when the Bengals lose too.
They do not play. Damn it.

Speaker 1 God damn it. Put that on the schedule, Roger.

Speaker 1 They should flex games. I know.
Yeah. They should keep an open week.
They should just do a they should do a

Speaker 1 Twitter poll. Yeah.
What game do you want to see? I think college basketball does that for some conferences. They keep like an open week and they like put the top four teams playing each other.

Speaker 1 Surprise games? Yeah. How cool would it be if they announced the schedule for the next week on like Sunday night? Didn't you mention this? Yeah, yeah.
It's like a selection show.

Speaker 1 In between the afternoon games and the start of Sunday night football, they do a selection show for what next week's games are going to be. It'd be a lecture.
I just love that.

Speaker 1 It would suck for traveling if you're planning to go to an away game, but it would be so fun.

Speaker 1 Maybe they could figure out a way to sell that show and then use that money and redistribute it to each team that has to then pay for a certain amount of fans every week for like last-second travel.

Speaker 1 I like that idea. Yeah.
Which they would never do. Yeah.
But that would be, that would work.

Speaker 1 Jackson Mahomes finally got in the booth with Taylor Swift in the box. Jackson was in Taylor's box.
Was in Taylor's box.

Speaker 1 The Swifties are all kinds of shambles trying to figure this one out. Yeah.
Oh, Britney and Taylor Swift had a nice little handshake that they made up. Yeah.
That they executed a couple times.

Speaker 1 I like that. I mean,

Speaker 1 Britney Mahomes never bothered me. So

Speaker 1 a lot of people are hand-wringing about all of this because I think that's all Swifties have to do every day is just think about what Taylor Swift is doing every second of every day.

Speaker 1 But I am enjoying watching other people be distraught about this.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't really, I, Brittany Mahomes has always been one of those things where people start to read real far into the relationship based on like one picture that was taken of them back in high school.

Speaker 1 Well, it's also, I think, and this is a testament to Patrick Mahomes, Patrick Mahomes is so likable and people naturally, we are terrible human beings, and we're like, we have to hate something.

Speaker 1 And then they just were like, oh, well, we'll hate his wife. Yeah, what's his flaw? Yeah, right.
Right. I don't care for his wife pouring champagne.
It's like, no, actually, he rules.

Speaker 1 And yeah, she probably has had a couple clips where she would have been like, oh, I wish I had that one back. But yeah, she never bothered me.
And they seem happy.

Speaker 1 The fact that now Jackson's in the picture with Taylor Swift, I love all of it. I love all of it.
Swifties, figure this one out.

Speaker 1 You're going to have some sleepless nights, Swifties. Yes, the Swifties, they make Taylor pass a purity test for everything.
Everything. Remember, her old boyfriend went on Come Town? Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then they listened to that and they're like, they're like, this is the worst. Taylor can't be associated with this.
Also, hanging out with Bernie Kosar today. Yeah.
And Bernie's face was awesome.

Speaker 1 What was that about? His tongue out like a dog. Yeah, that was a great.

Speaker 1 It was out sideways like a dog with his head out the window on the highway. So the Chiefs are good.
Yeah. Chiefs are really good.
They're very good. Patrick Mohammes, best quarterback in the NFL.

Speaker 1 They have invented new ways.

Speaker 1 It really is fascinating to watch them kind of change in front of our eyes where they're winning games in different ways. And

Speaker 1 that is the testament of like... If you want to become a dynasty, you're never going to have the same roster year to year.
And

Speaker 1 they've changed it over a few times, and they're still going to keep winning. And I love watching Isaiah Pacheco run.
Yeah. He's so angry.
So fun.

Speaker 1 he runs like when your dog has a little bit of poop that they're trying to get off their butt yep and just takes short little choppy steps yep uh he'll scoot yep yep big big week for rutgers football yeah yes yes huge weeks they're bowling which is weird to to celebrate yeah when you're six and two you got to take that though you got to take your but to be like we're going we're like we're bowl eligible it's like well you're also six and two yeah shouldn't you be happy about that yeah

Speaker 1 whatever uh all right last game night game max you were not with us for the first half.

Speaker 1 Eagles dominated. I say dominated the Dolphins.
I am of the firm believer. I love watching the Dolphins play football.
They're very fun. They are on my fraud list until they beat a real team.

Speaker 1 Thoughts?

Speaker 1 Yeah, no. The Eagles pretty much took care of them handedly today.

Speaker 1 There's not really much else to say. Jalen Hurts had two bad plays, but other than that, looked really good.
They put put a brace on him, right?

Speaker 1 I don't. I think he was.
He had a brace on his left leg. Yeah, we came out at halftime.
We're like, is Jalen Hurts injured? And Max just kept on saying, no, he's not. He's fine.
He's fine. He's fine.

Speaker 1 Even though we saw him limping. I think he was fine.

Speaker 1 He had two bad plays, and then he played really well. Yeah, so the Eagles,

Speaker 1 you feel confident and you're back to just... I mean, you actually showed up for this game, so credit to you.
Yep. You did.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, it was a good game.

Speaker 1 The defense is what looked really good. They held the top-scoring offensive league to 10 points.
Yeah. Now, tell me about that shirt.
Oh, yeah, that is true. 10 points.
Right now, Max.

Speaker 1 It says, I fuck with Philly, but the fuck is bleeped out.

Speaker 1 Kind of a soft shirt. We're a brand safe company here at Barcelona Sports.
You can get it at the store. Right.
I fuck with Philly. Nick Cassiano said it in a post-game interview and put it on a shirt.

Speaker 1 I would like to see the full F-word on your shirt. Yeah, I would say.
That's a little soft. You can take that up with Plohar.
Is it mean to call the Dolphins frauds or very accurate at this point?

Speaker 1 I think they're not for real. Yeah, I mean, they have beaten up the Panthers, the Giants, the Broncos, and then the Chargers is their best win, which is going really bad now.

Speaker 1 And they beat the Patriots. And the Patriots, and they have played two really good teams.

Speaker 1 Well, actually, the Bills might not be a really, they aren't a really good team right now, but they played two teams that are at least playoff-worthy teams and the Bills and the Eagles and got smoked.

Speaker 1 Can we also say that the Kelly Ureen jerseys should absolutely be a permanent thing?

Speaker 1 I said seven points. It was worth seven points.
I had it worth six. I had it worth seven.
And I'd hammered the Eagles because of it. And they're just Eagles just manned them up.

Speaker 1 I didn't even do the calculation, Max, that you held them to 10 points. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I do think that they wouldn't look as cool if they wore them every game, though. They look very 80s, don't they? But they look 80s in a good way.

Speaker 1 I think they'd look cool. Like all the good parts of the 80s.
Yeah. Not the AIDS.

Speaker 1 I'm cool with it all the time. Or the crack.
Or the crack, yeah. Well, crack's probably real fun your first or second time.

Speaker 1 Max, so that's it? You're feeling... It sucks when you win.
Even though I won too,

Speaker 1 because I bet on them. But yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, it got interesting for a little bit there, but they basically controlled that game for 75% of it. Jake, Dolphins are frauds.

Speaker 1 Listen, I'm calling the Germany game against the Chiefs a must-compete. Oh.
They get blown out. That is loser.

Speaker 1 They get blown out. They don't play a good team.
Loser. They're so bad.

Speaker 1 Week 16.

Speaker 1 I'm going to play that back for you tomorrow, and you're going to be like, what did I say?

Speaker 1 I think we've thrown the phrase must compete out a few times as a joke on the show. Oh, Jake.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 They're going to be 11-3 or 12-4 heading into Christmas, and people aren't going to believe them if they don't win that game or compete in that game. Must compete.
What does compete look like?

Speaker 1 Not like the way they've looked against the Eagles or Bills. But they were competing tonight.
It was 17-17 in the fourth quarter. Mid-third.

Speaker 1 Must compete. What do you think about the refs tonight, Jake? Very bad.
But evened itself out with the pick six, but zero penalties on the Eagles? Was that final? Zero penalties.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they played a clean game.

Speaker 1 The missed face mask was. Yeah, the missed face mask was bad.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but that was bald online. You got it right back.
Touchdown. You know what my pet peeve is, Jake? That officials don't have to do a post-game media screen.
Yeah, they do the pool reporter. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They make one, or is that just NBA?

Speaker 1 I think they type up like a written set of health for the game. That needs to be a press conference.
You want to take back the must-compete?

Speaker 1 You want to keep it? You can keep it. You have to choose one way or the other.
You have to choose right now. Do you want to take back the must-compete?

Speaker 1 No, I won't get peer-to-pressured. Okay.
Well, you could easily just say must-win.

Speaker 1 I mean, because it is a must-win.

Speaker 1 If you want to be taken for real, you have to win that game. Right.
I will not.

Speaker 1 If the Dolphins compete and lose, I will not change my opinion on the Dolphins being frauds. Really? If they lose like 38, 35? No.

Speaker 1 They have to win. And their defense sucks.
They have to win a game again. Yeah, I mean, they were banking.
They have to win a game against a good team for me

Speaker 1 to be like, yes, this team is for real.

Speaker 1 You want to take it back?

Speaker 1 I mean, at this point, I've dug the hole. Okay, all right.
You're getting Jalen Ramsey back. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm just looking at the schedule right now, and the Chiefs are the only good team on their schedule until Christmas Eve.

Speaker 1 The Jets aren't good? They're average. Oh, well, what are the Dolphins? What are the Dolphins?

Speaker 1 What are the Dolphins?

Speaker 1 The Jets beat the Eagles. That's a good point.
The Jets beat the Bills.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think the Jets are better than the Dolphins right now. No.

Speaker 1 I actually, yeah, I'm actually going to say that. Well, who would win head-to-head? The Jets or the Dolphins?

Speaker 1 I think the Jets play a football football. They play on Black Friday.
No, I think the Jets play a style of football. The Dolphins cannot play it.

Speaker 1 I think if they played the Black Friday game today, the Dolphins would still be favored. Yes.
Of course, they'd be favored, but I would bet the Jets.

Speaker 1 No, no, I mean, I would bet the Jets. I think the Jets are better.

Speaker 1 They play defense. You got to play defense at some point.

Speaker 1 The Jets would maybe fuck up the Dolphins.

Speaker 1 I kind of agree with Jake that the Dolphins aren't as bad as we're making them seem right now. No, they're good because they win games, but they're frauds because they can't beat.

Speaker 1 And I think the Jets might, I think the Jets could potentially fuck up the Dolphins right now. Memes? Right now, the defense is humming where they wouldn't know what to do.
Right. Like,

Speaker 1 I think the Dolphins have a problem with coming off the Eagles when good physical defenses

Speaker 1 seem like it's their kryptonite.

Speaker 1 And we should say the Bills were still healthy when they played them. So their defense was good.

Speaker 1 I think you're giving the Jets a lot of credit. Well, no headband, Zach Wilson's different.
Yeah, I just don't. I think the Dolphins are a finesse team that will

Speaker 1 beat the shit out of bad teams. And they beat them.
Oh, yeah. No, no.

Speaker 1 They're not bad.

Speaker 1 The Dolphins are not bad. What do you think about the tush push?

Speaker 1 Got to figure out a way to stop them. Right in your face.
As long as it's within the rule book. Let's make it clear.
I think the Dolphins are good. I think they're frauds.
Like,

Speaker 1 they're not bad. They're not a bad team because they beat up any bad team easily.
But if they have to play a playoff caliber team, they're in problem until they can prove to me otherwise.

Speaker 1 They still do have the best offense in the history of football through this many games. So

Speaker 1 they are very good on the offensive side. But if they're playing a team that's like super physical, like we saw what the Jets did to

Speaker 1 the Eagles, they might get frustrated. I think

Speaker 1 they have to be in a rhythm. The Eagles, the Chiefs, and the Bills.
And the Bills. The Jets played way better against really good teams

Speaker 1 than the Dolphins have. That's true.
I still think the Dolphins have competed against the Chiefs. They did.
They did. That's the definition of it.
That's exactly what they did. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I still think the Dolphins are better. If Dolphins fans think I'm being unfair, if they do beat the Chiefs, I will flip my opinion very quickly.

Speaker 1 I'll be like, okay, they just proved to me that they can beat a really good team. But I don't think I'm being unfair.

Speaker 1 I think Dolphins fans probably, deep down, whether they want to admit it or not, probably agree, right?

Speaker 1 So they've got, yeah, they've got the Patriots at home. That's it.
I think they're going to just play one game. Yeah, they'll win that game.
They're going to win that one.

Speaker 1 Then they're going to compete in Germany, and then they're going to beat the fuck out of the Raiders.

Speaker 1 This goes back to remember the Ravens fraud year when we said all year there were frauds and people got upset at us and then they lost in the first round of the playoffs?

Speaker 1 Or last year, the Vikings?

Speaker 1 Fraud doesn't mean that you aren't a good team. It just means that when you have to play a playoff team, I would not bet on you.
You can still have fun as a a fraud. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 You can enjoy the hell out of this year. But just reset the expectations when you get to January.
And you can flip the fraud moniker. Like,

Speaker 1 you can play yourself out of fraud into for real. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You just need to win a couple big games. You just need to win in Germany.
Yeah. It's very, it's a very detailed

Speaker 1 analysis we got here. There's frauds.
There's not good teams right now. That's the Bills.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 There are good, bad teams, bad, good teams.

Speaker 1 and then there's the Cardinals. Then there's the Panthers.
Yeah. Downers of football teams.
Yeah, the Saints are a downer. It's almost like you'd rather not be that good so we can't call you a fraud.

Speaker 1 Right. If you had like lost to the Panthers, we would have been like,

Speaker 1 okay, the Dolphins are just,

Speaker 1 you know what the Dolphins are? They're up and coming. They're figuring shit out.
Yeah. But if you...
You might even say the Dolphins could be dangerous. Yeah, it could be dangerous, right?

Speaker 1 But the problem, it's the combo of beating the fuck out of these bad teams, then having everyone be like, look at how incredible this offense is. We've never seen anything like it.

Speaker 1 That's when you unfortunately fall into the fraud category. Yeah.
So, but how could they be frauds? They're the Dolphins. They have no history of anything.
Oh, because their offense is breaking up.

Speaker 1 Okay, offense is half of the team. They scored 70 points.
Yeah. They scored 70 points.
They scored 70 points. They scored 70 points.
Memes, you're feeling yourself after I said the Jets.

Speaker 1 Yeah, memes got so high for that. I think I would.

Speaker 1 I would take the Jets in a game right now if they played tomorrow.

Speaker 1 It's honestly a blessing.

Speaker 1 It's a mixed bag, really, but it's good to be known as a fraud in a sick way because it means that you've put enough good stuff out there. Right.
Right. It means you can't be awful.
Yeah, you can't.

Speaker 1 No, no, frauds. No, no, no.
Frauds are not bad. Frauds are Super Bowl contenders.
These frauds have to be good enough to be called frauds. You'd rather be a fraud than a bum.

Speaker 1 I don't know if frauds are Super Bowl contenders. I would disagree.
A fraud is never a real Super Bowl contender because you won't get there. At one point.
No. That's why they're frauds.

Speaker 1 That's exactly what they're doing. That reasons that one year they were the one seed, right? And they were frauds.

Speaker 1 It's also beautiful because if they're going to be a contender, if they get to a Super Bowl, then they can't have been frauds because they beat good teams. So, really, we win no matter what.
Right.

Speaker 1 Okay. But, like, the fraud is by definition, I have, I just don't think they have any chance

Speaker 1 schedule says. Yeah.
All right. Yeah.
We'll reassess when they play the Chiefs. That guy in Catch Me If You Can, he was a fraud, but he had a great time.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Awesome time. Really good time.
He was never going to be president. No.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Should we do who's back of the week? Let's do it.

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Speaker 1 Dolphins fans would be mad at us for that for sure. I think they'll only be able to do that.
I think that's just ultimate recency bias.

Speaker 1 No, but that still looked bad in prime time against the Eagles and the Eagles just lost to the day. Although the Bills.
And that too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But it is recency bias, but also the recent game that they played was against by far their best opponent of these year. And I also

Speaker 1 thought they were frauds going into this game. That's why I bet the Eagles.
Right. So it's not really recent.
Like, that's.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Dolphins fans. I think if the Jets lost to the Eagles last week, you would not even consider saying that.
What?

Speaker 1 If the Jets lost to the Eagles last week.

Speaker 1 Like, if the Jets played a game this week and lost, you wouldn't be saying that.

Speaker 1 No, I still would think, I would think the Jets would give them a very hard time because the Jets play very good defense. They do.
They play really good defense. So I, yeah.

Speaker 1 I would think the Jets, I would take the Jets in a game against the Dolphins right now. All right.
I would. We'll find out in a couple weeks.
Yes, we will.

Speaker 1 And just so Dolphins fans know,

Speaker 1 the Bears stink. So you don't have to tell me that I like, that's my favorite when they're like, I can't believe you call this frauds.
The Bears stink. Like, the Bears are trash.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 The Manders are also trash. Just because we should know better than anybody else what a bad football team looks like.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 There was a year where the Bears went like seven and one to start the year, and they had, it was like, it was some ridiculous thing where they scored like a pick six or a fumble recovery in like every game.

Speaker 1 And the whole time I was like, well, this can't last. Like, you know that this can't last.
You can't do this every game. All right.
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Speaker 1 Yeah, my Who's Back of the Week. I'm just going to put Blink182 as being back.
They dropped a new album on Friday. It sounds like it was recorded in 2005.
I mean that in the best way possible.

Speaker 1 It's just good how sometimes you can follow a band for their entire career, and they just put out a banger that sounds exactly like they sounded 17, 18 years ago. It's a good album.

Speaker 1 I give it four balls out of five.

Speaker 1 It was like very, very nostalgic. Listening, Max, you listened? I did.
Favorite song of the album?

Speaker 1 Anthem Part 3. Anthem Part 3.

Speaker 1 They should release an entire album that's just Anthem Part 3, Anthem Part 4, Anthem Anthem Part 5, because all the anthems whoopass. I need to listen to this because I do love Blink 182 as well.

Speaker 1 It's good.

Speaker 1 They kept it like the formula is the same? Yeah,

Speaker 1 just dick jokes and a couple songs about almost dying. Okay, good.
Because I hate when a really popular band then gets older and just changes their entire sound. Yeah, no, it's vintage.

Speaker 1 It does sound like it's 2005 again. It's not a bad thing to be a cover band of yourself.
No. In fact, if you're a good band, you're a good band.
Yes, it's a great thing.

Speaker 1 All right, my who's back of the week is playoff baseball. We have had some awesome playoff baseball.
Friday night, the Altuve home run, which Altuve might be the most clutch guy since Big Poppy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's what, number two in postseason home runs now? Like every big moment, he comes up huge. And then we had an incredible Phillies

Speaker 1 Diamondbacks game on Friday night where the Diamondbacks even the series and the Phillies won on Saturday night. Max, how are you feeling going into game six?

Speaker 1 Oh, and by the way, the Rangers, Nathan Navaldi has been like the best pitcher in playoff baseball, shoved again tonight, and the Rangers just forced a game six.

Speaker 1 And the benches cleared on Friday night. Yeah.
That was awesome. Yep.
He 100% did that. And Garcia hit a grand slam, too.
I disagree so much. Why?

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 he hit him in his back, dude. There's no

Speaker 1 purpose. He hit him in his back.
Why the hell would you put the

Speaker 1 winning running? How do do you miss that bad?

Speaker 1 Sometimes the ball just gets away from you. I don't think that's no way

Speaker 1 in that situation. I agree with Max on this one.
I don't think.

Speaker 1 In a game that means that much, you don't put that guy on base. I understand, but

Speaker 1 if it was high and tight, he hit him how you would hit him if you were doing it on purpose. Correct.
Correct? That's how you would do it, but you would never do it in that spot.

Speaker 1 With no out, there's no way. Yeah.
And then Dusty Baker just refusing to to leave. That was awesome.
That was cool, too. That was

Speaker 1 like, make me go. Make me go.
That

Speaker 1 shove me out of here.

Speaker 1 What would they have done if Dusty had just been like, fuck it, I'm not leaving? Or was something about it? Was

Speaker 1 it Breu just appealed it so he won't have to serve the suspension, right?

Speaker 1 Is that true? I guess. I don't know.
Okay. No one should be suspended.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no one should be suspended. You want to see the best players out there.

Speaker 1 I thought he did it on purpose.

Speaker 1 That was an awesome, awesome game. Awesome series.
Game seven tomorrow night. So, Max,

Speaker 1 you have now the 4 o'clock game. Yeah, it stinks.
How you feeling? Feel good. Going home to the bank.
Aaron Noel has been really good these playoffs. I will say

Speaker 1 there's always the possibility of a stinker from him.

Speaker 1 But the bats came back strong last night.

Speaker 1 You got to feel good going to the bank. You got to feel good going to the bank.
Yeah, Abreo pitched tonight, by the way, so he did appeal. Is this a must-win for the bank?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 No?

Speaker 1 Well, one of the, yeah, you must win one of the next two.

Speaker 1 Max, you do this every single postseason. Well, I have an opportunity to take one at the bank here.
No, but then

Speaker 1 once game seven is coming,

Speaker 1 you would just say, oh, this series is over.

Speaker 1 You already said the series is over. It's a must-win to her? Yes.
I don't think I would say that.

Speaker 1 I thought yesterday was a must-win. Must-compete, Max.
Must-compete is loser talk.

Speaker 1 Loser talk. Loser talk.
Is Mike Trout going to be at the game? The Phillies game? Because he was at the game. If he was at the Eagles game, that would be hilarious if he was at the Phillies game.

Speaker 1 He loves having his October free to get a sportsman. He can't watch all the sports he cares about.
That would be so embarrassing. It would be so embarrassing.
He should not do it.

Speaker 1 You know that he's just watching it at home, but he can't do that. But yeah, Friday night's loss was absolutely devastating.

Speaker 1 I hadn't felt that way since the Eagles' loss. Yeah, you were spiraling to the film.
I was spiraling. I was spiraling.
I was spiraling. Just tweeting nonsense.
Nonsense. Nonsense.
Nonsense.

Speaker 1 I don't know what was... I was really, really upset with that one on Friday night.
I was also, I was being a lunatic in that bar. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, you're kind of a lunatic. Yeah.
I don't know if there's being a lunatic. It's just being Max.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I like didn't watch it. I walked away from the table of my friends in the second inning and didn't talk to them the rest of the night.

Speaker 1 I just kept going from different spot to different spot in the bar by myself. Also, Max,

Speaker 1 I know that, you know, you've, you've been on this podcast for a little over a year now. Like,

Speaker 1 not to toot our own horn, but we are a pretty big podcast and you've gotten a little bit bigger of a following.

Speaker 1 You can't just tweet out a picture being like, here's my TV setup and three random girls in it. You can't do that.
Yeah. You can't do that.
Oh, yeah, last night was bad for me.

Speaker 1 Like, how did you think that was going to go? I don't know.

Speaker 1 The TV setup was good, though. I saw it.
I was like, Max, Max. I mean, I didn't know that.
You have a following now. I know you didn't know those poor girls.
Just like

Speaker 1 people just going off in the comments. Like, you gotta.
I was just, I was just excited about the TV. I know you were.
I know it was an innocent thing. I didn't think anything different.

Speaker 1 I just, it was more like a Max doesn't realize like he's got a following. I'm not a smart guy.
No.

Speaker 1 no i have the perfect bar viewing situation to the i also that could make all the difference and it's just a picture of three girls it's crazy and when i saw it i was like jesus christ max you can't sometimes sometimes i'm dumb sometimes i'm dumb that's okay

Speaker 1 oh man um

Speaker 1 okay yeah so prediction max um

Speaker 1 i'll say seven two again phils i would love to win tomorrow and not have to have the anxiety of a game seven.

Speaker 1 I'm like getting, I'm stressing out thinking about it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That would be normal. That's what I need, though.
I know. That's what everybody needs.
That's what everyone. I maxed with it all on the line.
Ugh. And then Rico's stupid face.

Speaker 1 I can't look at Rico's stupid face.

Speaker 1 Let's just go in tomorrow. Let's just go in tomorrow.
Sounds like it's must-win. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because you already know you're going to melt down game seven.

Speaker 1 For your cardiovascular health, this is a must-win. I would melt down big time.
Oh, yes. You would probably get your heart attack.
Yeah. You would probably get your heart attack.

Speaker 1 If you make tomorrow must-win, you don't have to worry about that. Nope.
Won't do it.

Speaker 1 Because if I did that and they lost, what would you do come Tuesday? I'd support my friend. You would say

Speaker 1 you already said the series is over. No, I'd support my friend.
No, you wouldn't.

Speaker 1 No one supports me. For AWLs, you should be rooting for a game seven because we will live stream that.
I'm not rooting for a game seven. I'm not either because I'm rooting for the Phillies.

Speaker 1 I have a future on the Phillies. I'm rooting for the Phillies.

Speaker 1 I don't know if I told you that, that, Max. You are rooting for a game seven.

Speaker 1 Out.

Speaker 1 But then I need the Phillies to win.

Speaker 1 You don't, though. I do.

Speaker 1 You need to see

Speaker 1 tears. I need the Phillies to win so that I can hedge, and then I want tears.

Speaker 1 It's a very simple formula. Max, I have a question about this setup that you had the other night when you were watching the game.
Did you spit the three girls? Yeah, did you spit on the game?

Speaker 1 I don't know, man. I don't know.
Did you rip your shirt off?

Speaker 1 I did not rip my shirt off.

Speaker 1 I didn't mean it. I didn't mean it.
I'm sorry if they ever saw anything.

Speaker 1 I just wanted to watch it. I was just excited to watch the game.
It was a good TV setup. It's a good TV setup.
Yeah. All right, Jake, your who's back.
My who's back is security guards tackling fans.

Speaker 1 Yeah. We've got a few of them over the last few weeks.
The most recent in Tuscaloosa. This guy leveled a fan.
This one was after the game.

Speaker 1 I don't know if it needed that much violence when the game was over. It's not really.

Speaker 1 The security guard got like a 20-yard head start on that hit. Yeah.
Just laid him out. I understand what's during the game, and it's stopping play, and there's millions of people waiting on you.

Speaker 1 But this one after the game, I don't know about that. That was targeting.
He went head-to-head on that. You got to remember: security guards, like they live for these moments.

Speaker 1 When they can tee off on someone, that is their Super Bowl. And what was earlier this week, Philly? There was one at the Phillies? Yeah, that one rock.
Rock. The best was the reaction.
No,

Speaker 1 that was after the game. The reaction.
The reaction of the bullpen. Players are on the

Speaker 1 seeing that guy get lit up was awesome. I got no problem with it.
Light him up. The other thing is, it's kind of like a dog chasing you.
Like, if you don't run, you won't get lit up.

Speaker 1 If you're just walking, you won't get lit up. This guy in Alabama wasn't running.
He was just standing still, right? No, he was running. No, he was running.
I don't know where he was running, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was on the field. Like, people go on fields all the time after a game.
Also, that's what makes going on a field fun is knowing that you could get lit up at any second.

Speaker 1 The second they stop doing that, then it just becomes boring to be on the field. Right.
No, I'm all in favor of

Speaker 1 the most dangerous game that you're playing. Again, because these are like when you sign up to be a security guard at a stadium,

Speaker 1 like it's it can't be the easiest job, can't be the most fun job. Yeah, you just pray that someone goes on the field and you can just light them up.
You should get helmet stickers, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 you should. Yeah,

Speaker 1 you should get that. Yeah, and then like successfully, you know, keeping the fans from rushing on the field.
So we need to see, like, okay, the fans getting jacked up is awesome.

Speaker 1 I do like it once a year when one guy gets away from everybody and makes it back into the crowd because that breathes new life into all the on-the-field idiots. Yes, that is awesome.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Good show, boys.

Speaker 1 I can already tell Dolphins fans are going to be very mad.

Speaker 1 I'm going to have to argue with them. I'm fine with that.
We said going into this game that if the Dolphins lose.

Speaker 1 Here's the only thing I'll say is they did have some bad penalties called against them. And also

Speaker 1 the Lions might be on Fraud Watch, if we're being fair.

Speaker 1 If we're being fair. No, they beat the Chiefs.
They did beat the Chiefs. That was a long time ago.
That was a long time ago. In Arrow.
I don't think the Lions are frauds.

Speaker 1 I'm saying they could be on FraudWatch.

Speaker 1 Without Travis Kelsey or Chris Jones. Oh, good point, man.
That's a good point, man. Ooh.

Speaker 1 Ooh, ooh.

Speaker 1 It's fun watching Fraud Watch. Who is that? It gets fan bases so much.
Well, of course. I'd be so pissed too.
I mean, your whole rankings on Tuesday should just be awesome. I totally understand why.

Speaker 1 Like, why wouldn't you be upset? If your team is winning and someone calls them a fraud, that is your right as a fan to be mad.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 we are, as a podcast, I want to just say

Speaker 1 we have been pretty good fraud detectors. So here's the thing, we have a pretty good track record.
The Lions,

Speaker 1 they could win their next eight games. Right.
And the last memory we have of them losing is getting their ass kicked by the Ravens. Right.

Speaker 1 So it's almost like they're going to become more fraudulent the more of these games that they win. Yeah.
So right now they're at like a four out of 10 on Fraud Watch.

Speaker 1 As they win these games, the Fraud Watch will actually increase. Yeah.
And two of their next four games are going to be in prime time. So you're going to want to love them even more.

Speaker 1 You have Thanksgiving and then you have Monday night next week. I think those are the two teams that are on Fraud Watch.
I don't think there's any other teams that are on Fraud Watch.

Speaker 1 Because, like, again, the Bills, I think they're just not good right now. They're not good.
They're not good.

Speaker 1 Like, I think the Lions and Dolphins are good. They're just frauds.
Hmm. Who else would be on Fraud Watch right now?

Speaker 1 Who do you think has a better chance of winning the Super Bowl, the Dolphins or the Bills?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's the thing.

Speaker 1 I don't think Bills, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, if the Bills got healthy, I would say the Bills. I don't know.
Right now, I would say Dolphins. Oh, what? I would say Dolphins.
The Bills are bad right now.

Speaker 1 I understand, but I think, I still think I would take the Bills.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, the Bills killed the Dolphins.

Speaker 1 I think if you're saying the Dolphins are potentially frauds, the Bills have to be in that category. No, they're not frauds because I think they're just not good right now.

Speaker 1 But like frauds being the thing. I think they're looking big picture.
Everyone's.

Speaker 1 I think here's the difference. The Bills were frauds after they beat the Commanders and the Raiders.
That's when they were at their most fraudulent.

Speaker 1 And now they're just, they've played really bad three weeks in a row. So if you're the Lions, you would almost like to get a couple tough losses out of the way so you're no longer frauds.

Speaker 1 You can get out of fraudville by either beating a really good team or looking really bad for an extended stretch. Yep.
So, that's the opposite way you want to go.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, fraud's good

Speaker 1 in a sense. Yeah, you're just never going to win anything.
But, yeah. But it's better than where the Bills are.
Right. So, for example, the Bengals, like if the Vikings

Speaker 1 aren't frauds right now, right?

Speaker 1 Because they're just, they're three and three. Yeah.
If the Vikings pull off. If the Vikings had lost a couple more games last year, they would have gotten out of Fraud Watch.

Speaker 1 Because they've been like, well, no, they're not that good. Yeah.
Yeah. It's a very delicate balance.
It's interesting that we've. Yeah.
Yeah, it's interesting.

Speaker 1 But again, we don't get a lot of things right on this podcast. I actually think that we're pretty good fraud detectors.
It makes for a lot of people.

Speaker 1 We have a good track record of fraud detectors. So, for example, the Texans could go in a little hot streak because they have a pretty easy schedule coming up.

Speaker 1 The Texans might play their way into Fraud Watch. Yeah.

Speaker 1 A team like the Texans should never be. Well, not right now.
Not right now. But if they stacking about it right now, if they stack bodies.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
Yeah, probably. What are you going to say, Max? I think there has to be a sense of expectations, though, to be a fraud.
And it has to also be talked about in a way.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like, I don't think the Texans would ever be in that category because they had so low expectations coming into the year. Yeah, probably not.
Probably not.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Numbers. Last time before the lottery ball machine, which we have.

Speaker 1 Allegedly. Allegedly.

Speaker 1 I was in the office. Oh, you saw it? I did not see it.
Oh. Oh.
Interesting. Memes, have you ever gotten this?

Speaker 1 Nope. Shane, what's your number?

Speaker 1 10. 18.

Speaker 1 20. Shane, do you want to say anything about the Chargers?

Speaker 1 Shane is a Chargers fan. We should maybe get Shane.
We should do a Shane minute.

Speaker 1 Actually, maybe Sunday night when the Bears play the Chargers. If the Bears beat the Chargers, blow up your whole franchise.
That's an abomination. Shane's the most lunatic on this show.

Speaker 1 There's no way we can win that game. Lunatic and just like a weird, weird guy move.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Why?

Speaker 1 He never had Chipotle before he moved to New York.

Speaker 1 He doesn't eat food. That's basically the number one thing.
Yeah, we might have to do a deep dive into Shane. He loves Shirley Temples.
Loves Shirley Temples. Oh, shit, Shane.

Speaker 1 I know you got down like that. Shirley Temple is at Shirley.
I love Shirley Temples. Yeah, they're very good.
We went to that really nice steakhouse in Louisiana, and Shane got a Shirley Temple.

Speaker 1 Shane, talking to Mike.

Speaker 1 I got one at La Berge, the steakhouse. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 you just get Shirley Temples no matter what?

Speaker 1 He's saying yes.

Speaker 1 I kind of like that move. It's a strong order.
Shirley Temples are delicious.

Speaker 1 They are.

Speaker 1 So much sugar. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, you're basically just eating candy and dinner.

Speaker 1 It's just water and sugar.

Speaker 1 And then a cherry with more sugar on top.

Speaker 1 I guarantee you, every time a bartender pours a Shirley Temple and is sending it out to the server, they're like, in their head, there's a pregnant lady that orders it. Or like a 12-year-old.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Shane, one last thing. Answer this question.
Is there anything worse in the world? I actually think that Shirley Temples might, this might be the only drink when they don't put enough grenadine in it.

Speaker 1 It is the worst drink in the world.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's not good, but I don't know. I don't really like the cherries either.

Speaker 1 What? What?

Speaker 1 Wait, what?

Speaker 1 So you just like grenadine? Yeah, you just like red spruce. No, I like the, I just like the syrup.
Yeah, the grenadine. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Did you know the name of the syrup? Yeah. Isn't that cherry syrup? It's grenadine.
Yeah, but is it green? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you don't like the cherry flavor?

Speaker 1 I don't like the cherries themselves, but the cherry flavor. Why don't you like the cherries? Just not my favorite thing.
I just like the drink. It's actually made of pomegranate.

Speaker 1 It's an underrated drink. Oh, that's the way grenadine is? Yeah.
Wow. So wait, so

Speaker 1 hold on.

Speaker 1 You...

Speaker 1 Cherries are not your favorite thing. but you your favorite thing is the only drink that has cherries in it well it's not my favorite thing.
I just enjoy them. Is it your favorite drink?

Speaker 1 Nah, probably just a straight-up sprite, but just to tree myself. Okay.

Speaker 1 Why do you get the tree? Why do you get the trees? We're going to have to do

Speaker 1 it. Well, you go to a place.
All right, we're going to have to do like a 20 questions. I can get a sprite whenever I want, but if I go to a restaurant or something, get a Shirley Temple.

Speaker 1 Class it up a little bit. Yeah, I mean, splurge on myself.
All right, you know what? On Wednesday, because we're going to have the booth set up, maybe we'll do like PFD.

Speaker 1 We just got to do like 20 questions with Shane. Yeah.
Like, what, you know, like, have you ever had this?

Speaker 1 It's kind of like the are you garbage guys?

Speaker 1 The answer will be no. He hasn't had anything.

Speaker 1 What an enigma. Have you ever had shrimp?

Speaker 1 Oh, oh,

Speaker 1 I have, but seafood's not really, uh, not really my thing either. What is your thing? Chicken tenders.
Okay. All right.
Part of my chicken tenders. Yeah, you're a five-year-old.
That's fine. Plug God.

Speaker 1 I have no problem with having. I actually like people like you because, like, Gaz is like that.
He just eats like a five-year-old. He makes Hank's like spice tolerance look like

Speaker 1 he's on hot one. Yeah, Hank is kind of a five-year-old eater, too.

Speaker 1 And I like guys like that because it's just like, you know, that you can kind of, they're never really going to complain about anything because they'll just get chicken

Speaker 1 tenders or grilled cheese wherever they go. All right.
Numbers. Shane has 10.

Speaker 1 One.

Speaker 1 69.

Speaker 1 I have 20. Max has three.

Speaker 1 It's on on three right now, Max. So pick another number.
I've never seen it pick the same number.

Speaker 1 Three. Okay.
Strong.

Speaker 1 84.

Speaker 1 Last one before the lottery ball. I can't wait to hear those balls on Tuesday.
Yep. Whoa.
Those ping pong balls.

Speaker 1 Those ping pong balls.

Speaker 1 Man, I can't wait to hear those balls

Speaker 1 clapping around. Well, good news is, Jake, the must-compete is now not the worst thing you said.

Speaker 1 Love you guys. Ping pong balls.
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