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Speaker 1 Welcome to part of my take today is Wednesday October 18th

Speaker 1 and the Phillies are fucking good.

Speaker 2 They just hit another solo home run, probably. Probably.
It's just, it's just, that's what they do.

Speaker 2 And I was thinking that the other night when I was watching the Phillies game, it was like, they sure hit a lot of solo home runs, don't they?

Speaker 2 And I had no idea that tonight they set a postseason record. They hit 13 straight solo home runs.

Speaker 1 They've hit 19 home runs.

Speaker 2 In the last four games, they've hit 15 home runs. So the all-time record for homers in a playoff, it was the Tampa Bay Rays in 2020 with 34 home runs in those playoffs.

Speaker 2 These Phillies are on pace to destroy that record, and it's unreal. Like they have their leadoff hitter.
Like obviously, Schwarber is hitting a lot of dingers. He's yamming a lot right now.

Speaker 1 Most leadoff postseason home runs all time.

Speaker 2 Yeah, and it just seems like they, every time I look at the Phillies play, they've hit four home runs and they're up 4-0.

Speaker 1 It's insane. They all are just trading who's going to get hot.
You know, like last series, Schwarber didn't hit any. He's hit, what, three in two games.

Speaker 1 It feels like Cassianos. This is the first game in like weeks that he hasn't hit two home runs.
Bryce Harper, Trey Turner, all these guys, it's crazy. They are so goddamn good.
The bank is electric.

Speaker 1 It's undefeated right now.

Speaker 1 And then the other story is the Rangers are also very, very good.

Speaker 1 It's been a fun postseason playoffs. I know that the Astros are never dead.
And you know what?

Speaker 1 No, I'm not going to say the Diamondbacks are dead because they could still, who knows,

Speaker 1 go back to Chasefield. But it's looking right now like Rangers Phillies, and it's been so much fun.
Like watching playoff baseball every night,

Speaker 1 it's got me reinvigorated. It's making me fall back in love with the sport.
There's nothing like October playoff baseball. It's just, it's romantic.
It is. And guess what? The games go quick.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's nice. I like the pitch clock.
Going back to the bank.

Speaker 2 That's where the D-Backs are going, to their bank. Their bank has a pool in it, though, so it's

Speaker 2 a much less chill bank.

Speaker 1 We should ask Max, because Max,

Speaker 1 I mean, you don't really have, you're not angry. There's nothing to be angry about.
I guess credit to you again, because you were right about the Castellanos

Speaker 1 barrel up in game two against the Braves. He then went on an insane streak.

Speaker 1 I guess you were also right to save all your energies and let the Eagles lose to the Jets so that you could, you know, be ready for these two games. How are you feeling? I mean,

Speaker 1 you can't feel anything but elated right now.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I mean, today was just taking care of business. It's not even, you're getting excited early in the game, but now you're just, you're just watching your boys get their reps in.

Speaker 6 That's all that was happening late in the game here. I mean, I'm fired up, but

Speaker 6 it's hard to be rah-rah when you see the 10th rungo.

Speaker 1 Don't waste them. You're wasting runs.

Speaker 1 But this team doesn't.

Speaker 6 That doesn't exist.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 6 They just keep you.

Speaker 2 No, Max, it does exist.

Speaker 1 You're wasting it.

Speaker 2 Well, Big Cat, the good news is they're not really wasting runs because all their home runs are solo shots. Yeah.
So they might be wasting homers.

Speaker 1 They're wasting rally killers. Yeah.
So that's a good thing.

Speaker 2 How about you play some smallball, Max, get some guys on base and then drive them in?

Speaker 6 I mean,

Speaker 6 the last inning, they had nine guys coming to the plate.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 1 The sixth or I don't know. Yeah, it was a pretty good inning.
They're just batting around. And then, yeah, the Rangers.

Speaker 1 I was shocked to see them go and take two from the Astros.

Speaker 1 And even like game two, when the Rangers jumped out to a 4-0 lead, I was was like, oh, you know, the Astros are never, there's one team that's never drawing dead.

Speaker 1 It's the Astros, and they almost came back.

Speaker 1 I feel like that series, like, the Astros can't get swept, right? That's just not the Astros. No, it wouldn't happen.

Speaker 2 It wouldn't happen.

Speaker 1 It'd be a real shame. It's a real shame.
Real shame.

Speaker 1 A real shame.

Speaker 2 It'd be a real shame if they got swept.

Speaker 2 But no, they're not going to get swept. Have you seen their lineup?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, it's very good, Max. You have home advantage in the World Series against who? A whomst?

Speaker 6 the astros not the rangers

Speaker 6 oh oh so you're already thinking about the world series no you asked a question okay i answered a question well you had to have thought of that if you knew the answer right off the top of your head yeah that's a fact i knew that i knew that answer before the series even started you gotta you gotta be prepared for all situations there's still a lot of baseball to be played left we you know the series doesn't start until a road team wins a game yeah good point until he took care of business at home that's true that's a fact so so you you would rather play the rangers but you'd rather have home field advantage So which is it?

Speaker 6 You play who you play.

Speaker 2 No, but you can answer which team you'd rather play, Max.

Speaker 6 I would rather play the Rangers.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 Max's not scared of that.

Speaker 1 Scared of the Astros. I guess you did get no hit by them.

Speaker 6 There was zero hits in a game.

Speaker 2 I was at the bank, though, big cat. That was different.

Speaker 1 That's true. Is there a chance that Kyle Schwerberg might become like the most beloved athlete of all time if he plays for enough teams? Yeah, he's awesome.

Speaker 1 It's rare that you have a guy, and he left under different circumstances to each team. You know, I think he was a free agent when he left the Nationals and the Red Sox.

Speaker 1 Obviously, the Cubs just wouldn't pay him, which was ridiculous even at the time. But it was a situation where it's like, how could you not love the guy? And then he goes to Philly and he's beloved.

Speaker 1 Like, I actually think that.

Speaker 1 If he plays, maybe he needs to go a couple of West Coast teams and it will just be like Kyle Schwarber might be able to run for president.

Speaker 2 Yeah, or go play in Japan, like after his MLB career is over, make them love him too. Just like teasing, he's impossible, impossible to not like.

Speaker 2 And I'm glad that we all got to share Schwarber for a little bit.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 pass him around.

Speaker 2 When you experience Kyle Schwarber firsthand,

Speaker 2 there's nothing like it. Just the joy, the joy watching that big boy step up there and just mash taters.

Speaker 2 And run.

Speaker 6 I love watching him run. Oh, yeah.
I'm sorry for interrupting, but it's like, it is so joyous to watch that man just trolley around the bases.

Speaker 6 He went first to third on a single today, and it was, it's just, it's a joy.

Speaker 1 He's deceiving. He's got deceiving speed because he's slower than he looks.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 We are sucking off the Phillies pretty hard here.

Speaker 1 Max's brain just fucking melted on that. He's like, wait, do I have to fight Big Cat right now?

Speaker 6 Well, I thought you were going to say he's faster than he looks. And I was like, yes, he is.

Speaker 1 Oh, he is pretty hard.

Speaker 1 He is faster than he looks. Yeah, but

Speaker 2 it sounds like we're sucking off the Phillies because we are.

Speaker 1 Well, they're up 2-0.

Speaker 2 And I do think that most people that are objectively watching these games are having fun watching the Phillies. Like, they are, they're, without a doubt, the funnest team in baseball right now.

Speaker 2 And between Schwarber, the rest of the guys hitting Taters, and then Trey Turner's slides are just incredible. I love watching that dude slide the way that he pops up from it.

Speaker 2 It's just, they're a fun team. That's the bottom line.
They're a fun team. I won't apologize for enjoying watching good baseball.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's fun. And the atmosphere is fun.
And I'm sure the Rangers

Speaker 1 will be fun on Wednesday night when they go home up 2-0.

Speaker 2 I would like to nitpick one thing about the Phillies, though. I broached this with Max earlier, but I was watching the celebration after they advanced against the Braves.

Speaker 2 If you're Bryce Harper and you don't drink, are you allowed to be pouring beer on people in celebration?

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 2 I would be having a great time in the clubhouse, but then you've got Bryce Harper, Mormon, doesn't touch the stuff, but he's pouring it all over me. That doesn't feel right to me.

Speaker 2 It's like when a guy with great lettuce wears a hat all the time, it's like, hey, dude, I'm a drinker. You're not a drink.

Speaker 2 My culture is not your costume.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's the sober dude hitting on drunk chicks at the bar. You're like, yeah, okay, I guess this is fine, but it's kind of weird.

Speaker 2 Well, no, like drunk, but not, you know, buzz chicks. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 No, I'm not. I mean, they're standing at the bar.
I'm not. Max's brain went somewhere totally different.

Speaker 6 Well, I just want to make sure that we're not saying any bad things about one of the greatest players ever played the game.

Speaker 1 We're not. And a great guy.
yeah i think he should have to he should have to pour like mountain dew on people yeah ginger ale maybe that would piss people off so much if you just got mountain dew

Speaker 2 club soda with a lime in it so no one can really tell yeah max you agree with me though don't you um yeah i mean it's a little weird it it people

Speaker 6 he doesn't really talk he talks about like partying in the clubhouse after the game, but he doesn't talk about how he doesn't drink. So it's like

Speaker 6 it's a little bit strange.

Speaker 1 It's probably, he probably gets like a contact buzz, you know? Yes.

Speaker 1 Like if you ever been in like, if you ever partied in like a like college basement and like the fumes can get you drunk, that's probably what's going on.

Speaker 2 I think, honestly, Bryce Harper probably, like, I could never do what Bryce does, which is hang around drunk people and have a great time if you're sober. That's actually the worst.

Speaker 2 That's my idea of hell.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you got to leave once they start getting drunk and they like want to have a conversation with you about life.

Speaker 2 Yeah, exactly. A conversation that you would absolutely love to have if you had six cocktails in you.
But when you're stone cold sober, no thank you. But yeah, credit to Bryce.

Speaker 2 I'm not knocking Bryce's sobriety. I'm just saying it's weird that he's like dumping.
He doesn't understand why beer is cool and he's dumping it on people.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
Other things. Monday night football.
Justin Herbert debate rages on. We talked to Baldi about this a little bit, but it is,

Speaker 1 he is maybe the most polarizing. quarterback online.

Speaker 1 And it's very funny because it's the perfect like debate for our times where there's a camp that says he can do no wrong, then there's a camp that says he sucks, and the truth is probably somewhere in the middle, but on Monday night he did suck.

Speaker 1 Like he missed throws that would have won them the game, and you expect Justin Herbert in what, year four to make those throws.

Speaker 1 It was just very funny, too, because it was like all eyes, Dak Prescott should just play Justin Herbert every week because he can't be the most talked about quarterback when Justin Herbert's playing in a primetime game.

Speaker 1 And it was like there was moments in the game where it felt like Cowboys fans were pissed at Mike McCarthy and wished they had Kellen Moore.

Speaker 1 And then Chargers fans were like, please take Kellen Moore back. He sucks.

Speaker 1 It was like, who can, who can

Speaker 1 have a different opinion about Kellen Moore here when the reality is he probably does suck, but also the Cowboys' red zone offense sucks. So they badly want him back for only that reason.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 the Chargers' offense looked pretty bad when Herbert was not only just missing throws, but he was also just going to the wrong guy. He was trying to force throws

Speaker 2 when he had easier options open. See, I think Justin Herbert is actually, him and Dak are not that dissimilar.

Speaker 2 They both kind of are good enough to make you think that they could be great. And then when they're not great, you're like, what the fuck? This guy sucks.
He's not great.

Speaker 1 Well, I've also thought way too much about Justin Herbert because I still think he's very good.

Speaker 1 I think Justin Herbert's problem might be that he came in to the league very good and like polished and ready to go, and he hasn't really gone like the next full level. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Like he, he's just always been very good and then has games where you're like, what the hell's going on here?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, he wasn't like

Speaker 2 back to what I was saying, which is like, because of the fact that he came in pretty good, everyone's expectations went way up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they expected that every year would get significantly better, and maybe he's just a pretty good quarterback,

Speaker 1 probably better than pretty good. I would take him like someone was like, would you trade the number one pick for Justin Herbert? In a fucking heartbeat, I would.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he's top 10. I think he's a top 10 quarterback right now.
And everyone has been expecting him for the last like three offseasons.

Speaker 2 When you do your list, your preseason list, which I love so much, like who are the top three quarterbacks going to like.

Speaker 2 Justin Herbert has found himself sneaking into that equation sometimes because of the expectation that people have. Dak has gotten over.
Actually, the pendulum might have swung now on Dak.

Speaker 1 Well, we're pretty mean to him.

Speaker 2 We're mean to him, but we're like intentionally mean. Yeah.
It's like, yeah, Dak, you know what? Dak played well at times last night. He still stinks.

Speaker 2 But he's gotten so much on the other side where he's gotten so much criticism that when he has a good game, people are like, oh, holy shit,

Speaker 2 this is great. But the truth, like you said, is in the middle with both those guys, I think.
And Dak is

Speaker 2 probably

Speaker 2 at Dak's peak, he's not as good as Justin Herbert at his peak.

Speaker 2 But still, like, it's all about the expectation that he said for him. With Dak right now, the expectation is that he throws like four interceptions a game.

Speaker 2 So, when he only has a couple interceptions this year, we're like, wow, I guess Dak is a great quarterback now.

Speaker 1 And what did we say? When he runs, things happen. Like, he started running a little more.

Speaker 1 I know he's been scared to run ever since he broke his leg, but when he runs and the offense gives or the defense gives him places to run, he can unlock a lot more.

Speaker 1 He had a good game last night. He played well.
I mean, he didn't play like lights out. The Dallas defense played very well, but like he did enough to win the game.
I just looked it up.

Speaker 1 So Justin Herbert in his rookie year started 15 games. He threw for 4,300 yards, 31 touchdowns, 10 interceptions.
That's phenomenal. And then his second year, he went 5,000 yards,

Speaker 1 38 touchdowns, 15 interceptions, played two more games. So he basically has been, and same next year,

Speaker 1 over 4,000 yards, 25 touchdowns, 10 interceptions. He just hasn't, like, I think that everyone expected after that rookie year that he's he's going to be a 50-touchdown, like 13, 14-win guy.

Speaker 1 And that hasn't happened yet. So everyone's like, what the fuck's wrong with him? Like, well, he's always been very good.
He just maybe hasn't gone a full step above.

Speaker 1 And that's what everyone's waiting for.

Speaker 2 I think we just need to intentionally recalibrate our Justin Herbert expectations, like officially right now. Justin Herbert is basically Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 1 He's powder blue. Well, he made the biggest mistake you can make in life.
He was, he, he raised his own bar to a level that he didn't have another level.

Speaker 1 That's why you always got a sandbag the first year. You always got to suck the first year.
And then when you take the step up, everyone's like, holy shit, look how good he is now.

Speaker 2 He was panicking, too, at the end of the game. He gave off some Carson Wentz type vibes at the end of yesterday's game.

Speaker 2 So let's just say that Justin Herbert is the perfectly average quarterback in the NFL.

Speaker 2 And we'll get to enjoy him when he plays well.

Speaker 1 And we also,

Speaker 1 he is like on the the chargers which is a cursed franchise and i do admit that so when people are like oh well his defense sucks or his offense i mean he has a shitload of talent around him but they are a cursed franchise he he essentially has just become he is phil rivers he's gonna be phil rivers he's gonna have his career which is a great career borderline hall of fame career maybe hall of fame career but it will always sit you you always sit there being like man Shouldn't there be more?

Speaker 1 That's essentially what he's going to be.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I hope not i i really do because like when he plays well he's very very fun to watch but he did not play well on monday at all he stunk and we also we got saved um well i guess the chargers saved mike mccarthy from himself because we're we're about to hit an all-time mike mccarthy end-of-game timeout situation last night where he at one point i think he burned a timeout with like i don't know 12 minutes left in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 2 And then there was another instance where they, oh, it was before halftime, right?

Speaker 1 No, yeah, I was going to say the halftime, he the halftime.

Speaker 2 They tried to give him two timeouts.

Speaker 1 He had two timeouts, and he tried to make him run the clock.

Speaker 2 Eight seconds left in the half, and they tried to give Mike McCarthy a timeout with eight seconds left. And he called the ref over.
He's like, No, I didn't call that timeout. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And then they just ticked it down to three seconds and he kicked a field goal.

Speaker 1 Like going with two timeouts, I know that it was crazy. It was crazy to be like, hey, two timeouts.
We have some time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know what? Let's just settle for a field goal with two timeouts.

Speaker 1 The ref, Joe Buck even said it on the broadcast because they went to commercial and they're like, I don't know what just happened to those five seconds because I thought we thought he called the timeout at eight and then he told the ref to just run the clock for five more seconds.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the ref came over, he's like, You want to time out now, right? And Mike's like, Uh,

Speaker 2 what can you even really do in five seconds? No, forget about that. We'll just we'll just take the points.
Him and Brian Daybolt, end of half clock management.

Speaker 2 Um, not good, not good in the NFC East this week.

Speaker 1 No, um, okay, let's uh, we have a lot of college football to talk, and then we got Hot C Cool Throne, Baldy, Drake may

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Speaker 1 Okay, college football.

Speaker 1 We got a lot to discuss.

Speaker 2 We do. What a weekend.

Speaker 1 We got a lot. What a weekend.
I think Washington Huskies won the weekend. Incredible, incredible game.
They look so for real. Michael Poenix Jr.

Speaker 1 is, I still can't believe that he's the same guy that was at Indiana because he's awesome.

Speaker 2 He's a legitimately great story, too. Like tearing both ACLs, coming back.

Speaker 2 Like, that's got to be so frustrating if you're a great college quarterback because he was very, very good his first year at Indiana. Yes.
When Indiana had a good, was that the

Speaker 1 COVID count?

Speaker 2 He was very, very good. And then he just takes like two massive steps back.
But yeah, that was absolute scenes in Seattle this weekend.

Speaker 1 Insane, insane. It made me a little sad that the Pac-12 is is not going to exist anymore, although Washington, Oregon will get to play every year, depending on the Big Ten schedule.

Speaker 1 So two things. One, first Oregon.
It feels like Oregon is just destined to lose this type of game every year.

Speaker 1 Dan Lanning, great coach.

Speaker 1 A little confusing with some of his decision-making.

Speaker 1 This game, it was funny because it was a high-scoring game. It could have been even more high-scoring because everyone just kept on getting stopped at the goal line.

Speaker 1 I love the fact that he went for it at the end of the game to try try to,

Speaker 1 you're trying to win the game. You're trying to win the game right there, fourth and three.

Speaker 1 The time that I didn't love, and this is us being extra analytics guys, was the end of the first half when they pick off Michael Poenix. They drive down.
There's four seconds left.

Speaker 1 They go for it on fourth and goal from the three.

Speaker 1 We have learned, because, again, we are smart analytics guys, part of the

Speaker 1 analytics of going for it on fourth down in the goal line is the fact that if you don't get it, you get to, you flip the field and it's tough for the other team. You're most likely going to get a pun.

Speaker 1 Guess when that doesn't apply? At the end of half. Half-time.
Take the three points.

Speaker 1 There is, I'm not going to be the screaming, oh, field goals, field goals, field goals, but there definitely feels like there's an aversion to field goals. We need to rebrand field goals.

Speaker 1 Points still matter. I know that you don't win games with field goals, but you can.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Kickers matter. Points to score.

Speaker 1 Don't leave one side.

Speaker 1 Point is to score points.

Speaker 2 You want to go one step further with it. Extra deep kicker analytics.
If you want your kicker to make a field goal at the end of the the game, get him in a rhythm.

Speaker 2 Let him go out there, see one go through. That's a good point.
It does better for him

Speaker 2 if you trust him. Because kickers, we are weak-minded people.
We're very emotional. We're very fraught to being thought of as being not part of the football team.

Speaker 1 Do you think he was like, oh, he didn't trust me? Yeah. This chip shot? Yeah.

Speaker 2 So it's probably not true. Right.
But

Speaker 2 there's probably something in a lot of kickers' brains that are like, let me go out there and get some points because I'm automatic. I'll make it.
Just send me out.

Speaker 2 And where your coach doesn't send you out, yeah, you can do that internal calculus in your head and be like, well, he's doing this because of an analytical reason.

Speaker 2 But also, at the end of the day, you're like, maybe he just didn't trust me that I was going to make it. So let your kicker get in a rhythm.
But I do.

Speaker 1 And they lost by three.

Speaker 1 And it's like, I know you can't play the, you know, the game plays out differently if they kick a field goal there, but it's not the worst thing to get bonus points, especially after an interception where Michael Poenix doesn't throw a lot of them.

Speaker 1 That's point, that's bonus points. It's a first half.
Just take your three points. Just take your bonus points.

Speaker 2 Be contented with them.

Speaker 2 I like the decision at the end of the game. Yeah.
Because he was playing also a double

Speaker 2 analytics game inside his own brain, which was, you're doing the too much time for Michael Pennix. Is it Pennex or Penix? I keep hearing it both ways.
I say both.

Speaker 2 And I think that most people, when they say it on television, they're just afraid that they'll say Penix.

Speaker 2 So Pennex, Penix. That's why they say Pennex.
Penix.

Speaker 2 I'm going to say Peenix. I like Peenix.
Peenix. I love Peenix.
Yeah, I do too. Have you seen Baby Penix?

Speaker 1 Are you talking about Baby Diggs? No, Baby Peenix.

Speaker 2 Different guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Also spectacular.

Speaker 2 I like what he was doing, which was playing the too much time for Pennix, which will then actually leave too much time for Bo Nix at the end of the game.

Speaker 2 And he ended up being right about that decision.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 that's not necessarily why they lost that game. They lost a game because Bo Nix didn't get the ball into the end zone or close enough on the final drive.
And that's why they lost. I'm fine.

Speaker 1 They lost because their kicker sucks.

Speaker 2 I'm fine. Well, yeah, they did.
That was a 40-yarder.

Speaker 1 That is close enough. You should make it.
That's a 40-yarder you should make.

Speaker 2 And maybe if Dan Lanning had trusted their kicker to go for three points at the end of the first half, he would have made that kicker.

Speaker 1 I'm totally fine with trying to win the game right there, especially with how good Washington's offense is. And speaking of Washington's offense, I've heard the analogy be made, and I kind of like it.

Speaker 1 They still have a lot of schedule left. Like they have a couple weeks where they should win easily, Arizona State and Stanford, but then they have to go on the road to USC.

Speaker 1 They also have to go on the road to Oregon State second last weekend. People are starting to say:

Speaker 1 are the Washington Huskies similar to the 2019 LSU Tigers in the fact that their offense is absolutely electric and their defense maybe is getting good enough?

Speaker 1 Now, I think there were more pros on the LSU 2019 team, but I always love whenever we're like, hey, look, this has happened before. Maybe it's going to happen again.

Speaker 2 It happened last year.

Speaker 2 I was guilty of this with the Tennessee Volunteers, with their offense, but their offense, I feel like, I don't know, I haven't looked at the numbers compared to the Huskies this year, but I feel like the Tennessee offense was better than than this Washington Huskies offensive.

Speaker 2 I don't know, this Washington Huskies offense is both very, very good.

Speaker 2 And I learned a valuable lesson last year, which was don't compare anybody to the 2019 LSU team until they win a national championship. Fair.

Speaker 2 And then you can do the comparisons in retrospect. Like, we never thought that we would compare any team to those USC teams with Reggie Bush, Lindale White, Matt Leinert, those guys.

Speaker 2 There have been a lot of great college offenses. I'm going to wait until all the facts come out.

Speaker 1 How does that sound? I saw a stat. I got to try to find it.
I think it's Washington is

Speaker 1 averaging like something like 8.7 yards per play. Something ridiculous.

Speaker 2 It's insane. It's insane.

Speaker 1 And this was a game that a lot of people had Oregon winning because Oregon's defense is better than Washington's defense, but Washington's defense played tough.

Speaker 1 And like, if they can round into form, again, I'm also, so I agree with you. Don't ever compare.
I would say I saw it. I saw people comparing it.

Speaker 1 I'm not comparing it because it's still the Pac-12 and there's still probably going to be some cannibalization of themselves.

Speaker 1 Like there were, like, if you had to ask me what the most likely thing is, Washington catches a loss, maybe two losses, and then beats Oregon in a rematch, and then they all are out.

Speaker 2 I feel like Oregon State is going to be a very tough game for Washington. Yeah.
I feel like

Speaker 2 that's one that you can't sleep on at all. But yeah, it'd also be interesting to go back and look and see how the Bengals offense performed after the comparisons to the LSU 2019 team came out.

Speaker 2 If like Tennessee started getting all that clout, and then Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase were like, hey, fuck that. Let's just remind them how good we are.

Speaker 1 And then they have an extra. That's the thing.
If you go just pros,

Speaker 1 there were probably, although Washington will have a couple first-round picks, a few first-round picks. They have

Speaker 1 two insane wide receivers. They have a really good edge rusher.
Like, I don't know. They're playing good ball.
It's fun. And I like it.

Speaker 2 It was very cool to see the Washington student section rush the field. There were probably like 25,000, 30,000 kids on the field.
at that game after it was over. It looked kind of scary.

Speaker 2 And again, I'm always in favor of storming the field. If you're in college, have fun, storm the field whenever you want, enjoy yourself.

Speaker 2 But there's starting to be like natural consequences of storming the field. Well, which is players.

Speaker 1 The kid who stormed the field in Notre Dame was a douchebag. Deserved it.
Yes, that was a douchebag. He went up to Caleb Williams, like,

Speaker 1 where's your finger paint now? Where's your finger paint now?

Speaker 1 I really do think that Caleb Williams, like every player, if a fan goes up to you and talks shit after a devastating loss,

Speaker 1 you have like a 10-second period where you can just open-hand slap them.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Not punch.

Speaker 1 We're civilized, but I think that that would actually, if that just became a law and a rule, because then fans would start acting accordingly.

Speaker 1 And it would be sick if we just got to see a couple fans just get open hand slapped.

Speaker 2 I like the idea of an open hand slap. My idea was that you should be allowed to do anything that's legal during a football game to a fan that gets up in your face.
So you can tackle them. Yeah.

Speaker 2 As long as you don't go high, no targeting. The targeting rule still applies.

Speaker 1 Well, you could do targeting and then just get ejected. That's true.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you could get post-game ejected from being on the field.

Speaker 1 But Caleb Williams had, he couldn't do anything there, and the kid was just in his face douchebag.

Speaker 2 So it happened with an LSU player the other day, too. It's just a nature is healing moment when they shove those kids back.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 So if you go on the field, just be you have to deal with the consequences of all your actions. But yeah, it was cool to see Washington have a good time out there.

Speaker 1 I'll say this right now. If a player in a Power 5 conference, they rush the field and a

Speaker 1 player is provoked in the way that Caleb Williams was provoked and they open-hand slap the state, the the fan, I will help if they get arrested.

Speaker 2 I'll match. Okay.
I'll match them. So there it is.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But it has to be exactly the same situation. It has to be a fan being a true douchebag to the player, not just running by the player or anything like that.

Speaker 1 You'll see every now and then where like a fan will be running and a player will just start like elbowing. That's not, it has to be a direct, you got in the player's face, player slapped you.

Speaker 1 We are defending the player. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And also if you're if you're a college student rushing the field, don't ruin it for everybody. Right.

Speaker 2 If too much much of this stuff happens, then they'll start to ban it and they'll take it very seriously.

Speaker 2 Like most SEC schools will gladly pay the $100,000 or whatever it is if it means they get a huge home upset.

Speaker 1 It also made it worse knowing that Notre Dame kicked the shit out of USC. So that kid was planning on saying that for a very long time.

Speaker 1 If it was a spur-of-the-moment last-second play, then I think it just becomes like, hey, everyone lost their mind. But he was sitting there for the entire fourth quarter.
I mean, USC got demolished.

Speaker 1 Caleb Williams looked very mortal.

Speaker 1 Probably out of the Heisman race. I would say definitely out of the Heisman race, which, speaking of which,

Speaker 1 the Heisman is going to be a quarterback. I think that's official.
Brock Bowers out for four to six weeks, which I don't know.

Speaker 1 I think he should probably just get ready for the draft.

Speaker 2 If I were him, I would.

Speaker 1 He's already won two national titles.

Speaker 2 If I were him, I would absolutely. The scary thing is.

Speaker 1 What are you looking at, memes? Memes is a Georgia fan. You don't like what we're saying? No.
You don't like what we're saying? No.

Speaker 1 I think maybe SEC championship game, I would say don't rush coming back, Brock Bowers.

Speaker 2 As somebody with a Tennessee and an Alabama future and a Texas future, I would say Brock Bowers needs to do the right thing for his future, his own future, and not rush back.

Speaker 2 Let's take it slow. We don't want to have any blips where you go into the combine and you're still a little bit nicked up.
So just take it easy. Take it easy, Brock.
I believed in you.

Speaker 2 Brock is probably the best prospect at the tight end position since Gronk, I would imagine.

Speaker 1 And he's won two national teams.

Speaker 2 And he's won two. And I'm sure that they've got two or three guys behind him that can step in and not be Brock Bowers, but probably be better than 99% of all other college tight ends.
Yes.

Speaker 2 So, yeah, Brock, please. It's for your own good.
This is about me. It's not about my money.
For your own good, just kind of chill out for a little bit.

Speaker 1 Why is Max wearing a tank top?

Speaker 1 Oh, that's sweat. Put the camera on, Max.
Show the sweat.

Speaker 1 Show the sweat.

Speaker 6 Show the sweat. It's got hot in here.

Speaker 1 No, show the sweat.

Speaker 6 I put a t-shirt on. Okay.

Speaker 2 You looked like Matt Ryan the other day up in the back.

Speaker 6 It's fucking hot as dick over here.

Speaker 1 It's hot as dick.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so it's going to be a quarterback winning the Heisman. It's going to either be Michael Pennix,

Speaker 1 maybe

Speaker 1 Pennix, maybe Jaden Daniels,

Speaker 1 maybe Jordan Travis, maybe J.J. McCarthy, because Michigan hasn't played anyone yet, but he has played good ball.

Speaker 1 But yeah, it feels like we can pretty, maybe even Dylan Gabriel if the Sooners don't lose.

Speaker 2 Yeah, or I mean, Quinn Dewers,

Speaker 2 if he just gets on fire real quick, he's got the name,

Speaker 2 and being at Texas would certainly help. But yeah,

Speaker 1 this is an awesome college football season it's it's great because there was there was some kind of i don't know what it was there was some uh congressional hearing basically the worst people alive uh have opinions you see what joe manchin said oh we have a couple so i'll read a couple yeah it's it they're so stupid uh first lindsey graham said utah is offering everybody on the team a new truck there's no end to this between the portal and nil college football is an absolute chaos That's a guy who doesn't watch college football.

Speaker 1 It's been an awesome season, and the kids getting paid is not a bad thing. And then Joe Manchin said, it's hard to root for the kids when they're multi-millionaires as freshmen and sophomores.

Speaker 1 No, it's not.

Speaker 2 I would like to hear Joe Manchin explain why.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 2 Why, in his opinion, is it hard for him to root for kids who are making money?

Speaker 2 Because if you unpack that to a deep enough level, he is just completely in the wrong about everything.

Speaker 2 They're 18 years old. They have a job.
They generate millions of dollars.

Speaker 2 As a guy from West Virginia, who there are a lot of coaches that are from West Virginia that would probably not like hearing a senator from West Virginia say that.

Speaker 2 I'm thinking about Nick Sabin in Alabama.

Speaker 2 If you're a guy from West Virginia, you should probably not be giving away your state's home pride-like competitive advantage.

Speaker 1 Not only that, but it's always so weird to me, and not to get to political, but like a lot of these guys who are making these statements, I would assume, are hardcore capitalists. We have

Speaker 1 a product that makes a ton of money. And kids that are exceptional at what they do, why shouldn't they make money?

Speaker 1 They're not, if it was every kid goes to college and is a millionaire, yeah, that would probably be an issue.

Speaker 1 They do things that no one else can do.

Speaker 2 Another way to say what Joe Manchin just said is

Speaker 5 the other student athletes that don't make money.

Speaker 1 Well, because they don't have a product that makes a ton of money. Like, eyeballs watch football, stadiums are packed, people are buying the product.
I get it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I would love for some of the other athletes to get NAL deals, which I think they are, but their sports don't make the same amount of money.

Speaker 2 They generate revenue.

Speaker 1 It is true, true capitalism. If you bring in a lot of money,

Speaker 1 you get paid a lot of money.

Speaker 2 But what I would like to hear Joe Manchin explain is,

Speaker 2 because this is the crux of his argument, he enjoys watching college football when players are poor. Yeah.
When they don't have any money. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Why? Why? Why?

Speaker 2 Is there anything, anything in life where you're like, you know what?

Speaker 1 I really,

Speaker 2 I like the person that cuts my hair. My barber's great.
I just wish he had a little bit less money to spend.

Speaker 2 I wish he couldn't take care of his family.

Speaker 1 It's just these guys telling on themselves that they don't actually watch the sport. Yeah.
Because it rules. And college football is chaos.
And I think Herbstree even said it. I love the NFL.

Speaker 1 Herb Street loves the NFL. What we saw at Washington, Oregon on Saturday doesn't happen in the NFL.
No. Like Like that just doesn't.

Speaker 1 And it's just, there's a difference in the fan bases and how people cheer for their team and the fans, the kids going on the field.

Speaker 1 Like that's a crazy scene that those kids will remember forever and Washington fans will remember forever. It's crazy.
They don't watch the sports, so they should not get.

Speaker 1 We should actually like any politician who wants to talk about college football, we should, like Johnny Menzel, like watch their iPad to see how much they're watching.

Speaker 1 If you don't watch more than five hours of college football on a Saturday, you don't get to have an opinion.

Speaker 2 Zero hours.

Speaker 1 Zero. Zero.
Yeah. That's how much they're watching.

Speaker 2 Next time I'm eating a pizza, I'm going to be like, you know what? This pizza would taste so much better if the guy that made it couldn't afford daycare for his kids. Yeah.

Speaker 2 That would make me so happy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because then he'd really put everything into it.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 I got one other thing about the SEC in particular. Yeah.
Because this is.

Speaker 1 Alabama is definitely going to win the SEC.

Speaker 2 It's a storyline that's bubbling up, and it bubbles up occasionally, but I think we need to talk about it a little bit. Jimbo Fisher and his buyout.
Yes, I'd like to say that.

Speaker 2 He's got a looming buyout or a buyout that's out there. What is it now? Like probably $80, $90 million to buy him out of this contract.
And

Speaker 2 so much of Jimbo Fisher's buyout and whether or not they actually do end up buying him out of that, because right now the offense sucks at Texas AM.

Speaker 2 Jimbo Fisher, he should be, he's being paid like he's the best offensive coach in the NCAA, and he's just not.

Speaker 2 So much of whether or not the boosters at AM pony up for the buyout depends on what the price of oil is worldwide because that's all oil money in College Station.

Speaker 2 They've got so many alumni, so many boosters that are so heavily leveraged in what the oil market looks like.

Speaker 2 And right now, the price of oil, I actually reached out to our friend Bunky Perkins, who is in the oil business, oil and gas business. So he's about as connected in this as anybody.

Speaker 2 Right now, the price of oil is about $85, $86 a barrel, which is pretty good. They're making good money in College Station.

Speaker 2 Once it gets up to like $100, that's when they have literal fuck you money. That's when the oil kings start to get crazy and do all the shit that they would prefer not to be reported on for.

Speaker 2 But I'm setting a price target right now. I'm setting a personal price target.
If oil reaches $95 a barrel, then I predict that Jimbo Fisher will get bought out of his contract.

Speaker 1 Okay, I like that.

Speaker 2 And with like all the instability overseas, who knows what happens with Egypt, with Saudi Arabia, if they get involved in the war over there, then oil is going to go like through the roof.

Speaker 2 So in a weird way, that directly affects whether or not Jimbo Fisher is stinking rich without a job or if he's still getting paid and doing a poor job coaching. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So Texas AM to me, most illusional fan base in college football, craziest fan base because of all the yell leaders. Every time a yell leader video comes out, it's like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 Why do they keep putting these out?

Speaker 1 And I know that you should aspire to be great, so I'm not saying that you shouldn't, but Texas A ⁇ M, and Jimbo Fisher's getting paid a lot of money.

Speaker 1 Why is it that Texas A ⁇ M thinks that they are a perennial 10-11-win team?

Speaker 5 Johnny football.

Speaker 1 He did it once. Dude, Perennial.
I know, but that's. I know.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 1 Since 2000, how many times has Texas A ⁇ M won 10 games or more?

Speaker 1 Two.

Speaker 1 Once.

Speaker 2 Johnny Football. McGee didn't do it?

Speaker 1 No. Once.

Speaker 1 They are a good football program. They're a nine-win team.
They're an eight-win team. Jimbo Fisher last year was a disaster.
I agree with that.

Speaker 1 If you want to say, hey, five and seven is unacceptable, totally agree. But Jimbo Fisher has gone 9-4, 8-5, 9-1, 8-4.
Like, he has done what Texas AM does. They win eight, nine games.

Speaker 1 They don't win 10 games. Yeah,

Speaker 2 I think it has something to do with the fact that they also claim like four national championships before things counted.

Speaker 2 Do you remember they had to take down a bunch of like conference championships from the side of Kyle Field that they put up when they first did the renovations on it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they had to take them down because they got bullied too hard for claiming non-existent championships.

Speaker 1 Yeah, when they were in the Southwest

Speaker 1 Conference in the early 90s, they had a stretch where they won 10 games a year, like five years in a row. But since then, since 1995, they have won over 10 games twice.

Speaker 1 They won 10 games, they won 11 games in 1998, and then Johnny Football.

Speaker 1 It's just a very funny, like, to

Speaker 1 I again, you should aspire to be great, but to pretend like Texas AM is like, we deserve to be winning 10 games. We should be winning 10, 11 games.
That's just not what has happened in history.

Speaker 2 It's more realistic to have done that in either the Southwestern Conference or in the Big 12. Right.

Speaker 2 In the SEC, like you wanted this, and it's going to be way, way harder to do that year in, year out.

Speaker 1 Okay, two more things I want to talk about college football real quick.

Speaker 8 One,

Speaker 1 that was a terrible Colorado loss. Yep.
29-0 at halftime.

Speaker 1 That Stanford wide receiver was

Speaker 1 El El Maynard. I can't remember his name.

Speaker 1 What is his name? A.O. Manner.
A.O. Manner? A.O.

Speaker 1 Unbelievable second half. Incredible second half.

Speaker 1 Colorado is probably going to miss a bowl now.

Speaker 2 Doing the math.

Speaker 1 Colorado

Speaker 1 could probably miss a bowl now. That was an inexcusable loss, really, really bad.
So they have, they are right now, I believe, what's their record? They're 3-3.

Speaker 2 Can we still go back to what we said at the start of the season?

Speaker 1 If

Speaker 2 Deion Sanders has like a four-game improvement, it'll be a miracle. Yeah, he did that.
Just slide the expectations.

Speaker 1 They play at UCLA. They have Oregon State at home, Arizona at home, who Arizona's been playing really good ball, at Washington State, and at Utah.

Speaker 9 So they're going to have to win. They have to win two more.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they have to win two more of those. So that's going to be very, very tough to do.
That could have been the ball. Like, that could switch it right there.

Speaker 2 That was a must-win. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was a must-win for Dean.

Speaker 1 And it was very very bad. And then the other thing,

Speaker 1 okay, so Wisconsin lost Iowa. Mordecai got hurt.
Sucks. I've taken a very long-term approach with Luke Fickle, so I'm not going to freak out.

Speaker 1 It's more about the fact that even though they're a rival, I love this Iowa team so much because they make people so angry.

Speaker 2 They're so bad.

Speaker 1 They are truly back to mad about Iowa. Like, people,

Speaker 1 if Iowa runs a table and they're 11-1,

Speaker 1 people are going to be so, so angry about them playing in the Big Ten championship game. They are, I have

Speaker 1 this guy puts out a great graph every week that essentially is like, how bad did you get beat? So it will be like, you know,

Speaker 1 this is the EPA or whatever it was, the opponent, and then how bad you got beat. Iowa multiple times this year has won games where they got beat, like in all the statistical categories.

Speaker 1 And it's so funny because people get so mad about Iowa, and I love it so much.

Speaker 2 They're just so, so boring and so bad on offense, but they figure out a way to win, and it's hilarious.

Speaker 2 So the note I had about Iowa was that I'm officially rooting for an 11-1 Iowa team who would probably be ranked.

Speaker 2 If Iowa goes 11-1 and they continue to win games in the same way that they've been winning, what do you think their end-of-the-season ranking would be? Probably like 9 or 10?

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, it will be.

Speaker 1 They'll get blown out in the Big Ten championship game. So that's the thing.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, they already got smoked by Penn State.

Speaker 2 It'd be so funny if they didn't, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 5 Tough to beat a team twice.

Speaker 1 Well, not really when Penn State beat them, what, 31-0? It would just be like Iowa even got like...

Speaker 1 I would confidently say they're going to get blown out in the Big Ten title to game, which actually makes it even funnier that people are mad about Iowa because if you're someone who is mad about Iowa, you know at the end of the road, you have your satisfying judgment day.

Speaker 1 Just be patient. But people people get so mad about Iowa.

Speaker 2 I just love the fact that

Speaker 2 they're going to have one win on their schedule and or excuse me, one loss on their schedule, and they're going to still be ranked like in the 20s for a very long time.

Speaker 1 It's the best.

Speaker 2 It is, it's very funny football to watch. And if you don't, if you don't appreciate the ridiculousness that is Iowa football, then you're not a college football fan.
It's also like, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 So you're mad about Iowa because they don't play offense. Well, guess what? They do defense and special teams elite.
That's two-thirds of the game.

Speaker 1 They've hacked the system. Offense is irrelevant.
You can just win games at the Big Ten West by just playing defense and special teams. Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's like they remind me of the Giants from last year a little bit. Yeah.
The New York Giants.

Speaker 2 I love watching Iowa football.

Speaker 2 And by watching it, I mean like having it on the second screen and then continuing to look over at the score and being like, oh, they're punting again and they're up by three.

Speaker 2 Oh, they're punting again. Now they're up by seven and then they're just up by seven for the rest of the game.

Speaker 1 Listen, they've released the ratings for this weekend for all the games played. Wisconsin-Iowa had like 2.4 million people watching it.
It was like eighth on the list.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of people pretty high.

Speaker 2 A lot of psychos out there. Yeah, those are my people.

Speaker 9 The over-under is 32.5 this week.

Speaker 1 Against Minnesota. I love that.

Speaker 2 That's going to be a great game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's your psycho if you take the over. Yeah,

Speaker 2 I might take the over just because, just to fuck around, just to feel alive.

Speaker 1 Well, it's hilarious because if you take that over, you are actually

Speaker 1 not

Speaker 1 hoping for, you need a defensive or special teams.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you need a punt block.

Speaker 1 You can't get that over without a defensive or special teams punt block.

Speaker 2 And you probably need two. You might need two.

Speaker 1 You probably need two of them. At least

Speaker 1 one touchdown and at least a short field.

Speaker 2 I'm going to stand up real quick for my James Madison Dukes because they are playing tomorrow night against Marshall. That's a Thursday night Sunbelt game.
Should be a good one.

Speaker 2 Very tough game for the Dukes. By no means are we counting this as a win if you're a JMU fan.
But if they do win,

Speaker 2 the schedule does shake out pretty favorably for them for the rest of the season in the Sunbelt. where, again, they would not be eligible for the postseason because of a dog shit rule.

Speaker 2 But there's a chance that we could see a JMU team with like one loss or maybe no losses by the end of the season, and they would not be invited to a bowl game, and that is horseshit.

Speaker 2 It's the dumbest rule ever. It's designed because they don't want a team to jump up to FBS when they have a good roster and then jump right back down.
That's fine.

Speaker 2 Okay, then punish the teams that go back down. When they go back down, take something away from them at that point.
But if you go up and you continue to compete, they won the Sun Belt last year.

Speaker 2 They won their division of the Sun Belt, even though it wasn't recognized. And the Sun Belt is probably the best group of five conference in football right now.

Speaker 2 If they win that again, and especially if they have one or zero losses,

Speaker 2 it's such bullshit that you won't let the students, the kids play in a game, and you're punishing the institution as a whole.

Speaker 2 When in reality, the biggest impact by far is on the kids that won't get to play.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, it's bullshit. We had this discussion last year.
It's dumb. It makes no sense.

Speaker 1 And when you say you don't want to get ahead of yourself, I've heard you many times in private say that they're going to go on defeat. No, I never, no, I never said that.

Speaker 1 You said to me yesterday, you're like, if they're going to to invite them to the Arizona,

Speaker 1 wrong.

Speaker 2 I said, you said that.

Speaker 2 I said if, and I said, there's a lot of season left. I said, there's a lot of season left.

Speaker 5 How does the Barcelon Bulls?

Speaker 1 If we invite an undefeated JMU,

Speaker 1 let's count ourselves national championship. I will.
I will. I know.

Speaker 1 I know you will because you said that.

Speaker 2 I'll hang a banner. But I'm not getting ahead of myself.
Like I said, good chance we lose at Marshall. That's a hard game.
It's a very hard game on third party.

Speaker 1 There's people at home. He does not think they're going to lose.

Speaker 5 I guess if we could get JMU football into the Barcelon Sports Basketball Invitational, they could win.

Speaker 2 Probably not.

Speaker 2 It's a great, great

Speaker 1 team this year.

Speaker 2 Mississippi State's a good team. Sister Gene, probably not, but if it was in the Barstool Bowl,

Speaker 2 I could see them winning Barstool Bowl being undefeated. Wouldn't you want the winner of the Barstool Bowl this year to be declared national champions?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Think about it. With JMU, you got the UCF possibility.

Speaker 1 So they are undefeated to go into the Barcelona Arizona possibility.

Speaker 1 This is exciting. This is a repeat of the conference.
But you can't help but think. Allow me to be excited.
I'm so excited. excited.
No, listen.

Speaker 2 They're fun teams.

Speaker 1 I think you should think this. I just don't want you to delude the audience and be like, I'm not thinking they're going to go on it.
You are thinking, which is great. I want them to.

Speaker 1 I would love for you to make national championships. Here's the difference.

Speaker 2 I'm planning ahead.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you, you, because we had the conversation multiple times the last couple of days. I was like, wait, he definitely does think that I'm planning ahead a little bit.

Speaker 2 Fun fact, they're quarterback Jordan McLeod, Ray Ray McLeod's brother. Oh, that is fun.
So they're fun to watch. Watch on Thursday.

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Speaker 1 Henry.

Speaker 2 I'm Hotsi's PFT.

Speaker 1 Oh, why?

Speaker 5 It's nice. You know, it's

Speaker 5 been a few weeks.

Speaker 5 A lot of time has passed.

Speaker 5 I've just noticed that body is as clean as ever.

Speaker 2 What are you talking about, Hank?

Speaker 1 Talking about tattoos. Oh! Okay.
Well, how long?

Speaker 2 It's been, what, a week and a half?

Speaker 2 I was in New York for Surviving Barbados.

Speaker 2 I was in New York for Surviving Barcelona. Then I was in Knoxville playing a concert with Pup Punk at Bojangles.
And now I'm back. I just got back into town.

Speaker 2 I'd like you to tell me when you think I should have gotten my tattoo, Hank.

Speaker 1 Henry? At some point.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I mean, we could have had someone

Speaker 5 come to the office in New York. We've done that before.

Speaker 5 At a rock show is actually like the ultimate time to get a

Speaker 2 tattoo. Yeah, that's awesome.
Backstage at a Bojangles. Yeah.
Or you could get the Zach Martin or the Zach Wilson tattoo.

Speaker 5 Have you at least finalized what you're going to get?

Speaker 5 Because that will tell me what I need to know.

Speaker 2 I have not finalized what I'm going to get. So you're right.
Hank's right. Hand up.
I've been slacking on that, but now I'm back in tattoo mode. So

Speaker 2 I will.

Speaker 1 This conversation? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hank, woken me up.

Speaker 2 Thank you, Hank. I owe you one.

Speaker 2 I will have my decision by Friday's show when I'm getting for my tattoo. That's a promise to you guys.

Speaker 1 Can we wait to do it in the new office? So that we can make it a bit more difficult. We do it during the stream.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we should. During the stream,

Speaker 2 during the Hank and Max live stream.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 Is that what you were saying, Hank? Yeah.

Speaker 1 You forgot to do that.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Oh, good point.
Good point, big cat.

Speaker 1 By the way, we already have a date for baseball, so we're set.

Speaker 5 You were the one that wouldn't let us do it.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, you wanted to do it. Yeah, well, we have to do it in the new office, right? Yeah, but you also wanted to do it, you wanted to get out of it.

Speaker 2 Max made a good point that I should wait till we're in the new office to do it. Max, you're right.

Speaker 1 Which will be next week,

Speaker 1 next Wednesday.

Speaker 1 It's exciting. Okay.
Next Wednesday's show will be

Speaker 1 the first of a new era. Pardon my takes.

Speaker 2 I might get a tramp stamp. How about that? I'll have the answer by Friday.

Speaker 2 DM at part of my take on Instagram or on Twitter, X.

Speaker 2 If you are a tattoo artist in Chicago and you would like to work with us or if you know a good tattoo artist, DM that account and then we'll find an account and I will have my decision made by Friday.

Speaker 2 Then I will get the tattoo as soon as we get to the new office when Hank and Max do their live stream.

Speaker 5 That reminded me.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 What are you going to say? Hot seat me? The weddings was a mistake. The weddings was a mistake.
It was a mistake. Okay, I made a mistake.

Speaker 1 Credit to me for realizing in the moment that it was a mistake, but I still said it. Discredit to me for still saying it.
The weddings was a mistake. We got a million wedding invites.
I said,

Speaker 5 that will not stop. Everyone that listens to the show when they're going to wedding, they're like, oh, I remember them talking.

Speaker 5 I think they're going to be planning their wedding and be like, oh, I remember when they were talking about it, if they want to get invited, we should invite them.

Speaker 1 And we're not going.

Speaker 2 I actually think that

Speaker 2 it would be a terrible move for a guy to invite us to the wedding because your future future wife is going to absolutely despise you for it.

Speaker 5 Your future wife's a listener. Yeah.

Speaker 1 There's female AWLs, too. The doctor is the mother.

Speaker 2 I just saw all the DMs that I got with wedding invites. It was from the groom.
And I was just thinking to myself, like, are you sure that she's totally cool?

Speaker 1 No chance.

Speaker 1 No chance that's been asked.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Mistake. Mistake.

Speaker 1 That was a big mistake.

Speaker 2 We'll go to a divorce.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we will. We'll go to a second wedding.
Yeah. That actually would rock.
Second wedding's probably fun. Don't say that.
Why?

Speaker 6 Because it's still the same thing as a wedding.

Speaker 1 No, second weddings are way more fun, I think. Because they're all like, we've done it.

Speaker 1 I've been to one, but it was only one of them. Like, if I'm saying it has to be second wedding for both of them, because then you know they probably like

Speaker 1 Jimmy Buffett themed. Yeah, it's pretty low.

Speaker 1 Probably like,

Speaker 1 fuck it. We've made mistakes, but now this is for life.
It won't be. They'll get divorced again.
But we will go to a double second wedding.

Speaker 2 We're also going to go to a bachelor party. What? Jake's.
When he gets married.

Speaker 1 Oh, Jake.

Speaker 1 Congratulations.

Speaker 2 That would be very fun if Jake got engaged and then he hired us to plan his party for him. And he was wildly uncomfortable with everything.

Speaker 1 Oh, guys, I was excited.

Speaker 1 Thank you. I appreciate that.
I knew we'd be invited, but my question was: how quickly over under

Speaker 1 minutes or maybe it's hours, probably not hours, probably minutes, would we have all of Jake's friends hate our guts? No,

Speaker 1 they love you guys.

Speaker 1 For now. They would hate us.
They would hate us so fast. Why? Because we like peer pressure.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, oh, you guys want to, you guys want to go, like, you know, play pickleball all afternoon? How about we just do drugs?

Speaker 9 Yeah, they're going to be listening to this and texting me and being like, we love them.

Speaker 2 I think Jake would actually leave the weekend hating us. Yeah.
I think that would be the end of the day.

Speaker 1 Maybe we should do a bachelor party for Jake without Jake. Oh, that sounds fun.
And Jake's friends. That sounds fun.
Just Jake and his just Jake's friends and us.

Speaker 2 Wish you were here.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Too bad you couldn't make it.
Deal. There's going to be so much pickleball at your future.
No.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there will be.

Speaker 9 Just like an hour to break a sweat.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 man.

Speaker 5 If you

Speaker 5 have a bachelor party this weekend, where would you choose?

Speaker 9 Scottsdale.

Speaker 1 Pickleball, capital of the world.

Speaker 9 Golf, pickleball, some fun, good weather.

Speaker 1 I like that. Yeah.
I mean.

Speaker 1 Jake, would you like to? I like it.

Speaker 1 If you let us plan it, I would go. Okay.
Because there would be like, I know you would be like the pickleball and then the big dinner on Saturday night. I've said

Speaker 1 the big dinner on Saturday night is the worst part of every bachelor party. Don't do it.
Everyone gets drunk as fuck on Saturday. They have a great time.
And it's like, hey, everyone, take a shower.

Speaker 1 Put on a nice shirt. We're going to get sober real quick and go to a dinner.
And then everyone sits there, stuffs their face, feels like shit, can't go out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I learned it many times. Do the big dinner the first night.
All right, you're the veteran. So you got the ball.
Okay, I'm excited.

Speaker 1 I would love to go to your bachelor party when it happens someday in the future. Yes, okay.

Speaker 1 But cool thing with Pat Bev. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Pandering Pat Bev.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow. Coming one with Billy.
Well, he got ejected Max. This is a little pandering, I think.

Speaker 6 I mean, don't talk about your coworker like that.

Speaker 1 You hate our coworkers? Yeah. I love Pat Bev.
You already hate our friends.

Speaker 5 I love Pat Bev.

Speaker 5 He got kicked out of a Sixers game for fighting with Ben Simmons.

Speaker 2 So what's wrong with that?

Speaker 1 Yeah, why is that pandering?

Speaker 6 Ben Simmons, bad guy. Pat Bev, good guy.

Speaker 1 Max, that was probably the most well-spoken Max has ever been in his life. I love Pat Bev.

Speaker 5 All right, not pandering. Sorry.

Speaker 2 Sounds personal.

Speaker 1 Pandering is

Speaker 5 on the cool throne. Philly's going to love him.

Speaker 1 But if it was pandering, he would wait till the regular season.

Speaker 1 Because no one was watching.

Speaker 2 Yeah, this is like character.

Speaker 1 It was during the Phillies game. And it was during Nonday Night Football.

Speaker 2 Character is who you are when nobody's watching. Right.

Speaker 1 Take it back.

Speaker 2 Literally, nobody was watching. Sorry, Pat.

Speaker 1 Apology not accepted. No, he's on the cool throne.
I put him on the fucking cool throne.

Speaker 2 I don't think Pat would accept that apology.

Speaker 5 I put him on the cool throne.

Speaker 1 Apology not accepted. The cool throne is a good place to be fashion.
I'll be happy for Pat. Fact-fiction.

Speaker 5 It is a good place to be. You'd rather be on the cool throne than the hockey.

Speaker 2 Yes, probably.

Speaker 1 Jake's on the cool throne.

Speaker 2 He invited us to his bachelor party. Fact.

Speaker 1 That's a permanent cool throne.

Speaker 5 You guys can come to mine, too.

Speaker 1 I'm down.

Speaker 1 What? No, this is the face that you just made. I was going to say.
Yeah, I knew we were going to get married.

Speaker 1 I could see the thoughts right in your head right there.

Speaker 1 I would expect to be invited to yours.

Speaker 2 How many days of golf are you going to play on yours?

Speaker 1 It's going to be a month.

Speaker 5 No, I'll be playing so much golf at that point that it'll be just partying.

Speaker 1 We had an extended golf conversation today, PFT, that was,

Speaker 1 I won't say, but it was,

Speaker 1 we have an extended golf conversation today.

Speaker 2 Right now, Hank is planning on debating

Speaker 2 how to take a vacation from golf.

Speaker 1 Okay, now we have to say it. The debate was embraced, PFT.
We had an extended conversation.

Speaker 1 You got to say it all, though. No, I'm going to say it all.
Hank is essentially,

Speaker 1 he's like, I'm going to work so hard in the winter. I'm going to crew so much golf time in the summer that I'm basically not going to work in the summer.

Speaker 1 Again, he wants to take Mondays and Fridays and Wednesdays off. I didn't say, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 9 Wednesday's not set. I was here.

Speaker 1 But you said you'll be here Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday.

Speaker 5 I'll be here to record the show. And

Speaker 5 I'm a non-traditionalist. I believe, like, everyone in corporate America listening to their job, they have 40-hour work weeks.
They work like 10, and then they have weekends and stuff.

Speaker 5 We don't have a job like that.

Speaker 1 I do believe in a 40-hour work week schedule

Speaker 5 across a 50-week timeline. 40 hours a week, 50 weeks a year.
Give two weeks for Christmas, one week for July 4th.

Speaker 5 I don't think it matters when those 40 hours come.

Speaker 1 As long as you just work 40 years. That's the thing.

Speaker 2 I'd say we worked like 60 to 80.

Speaker 5 I know. And then, and some of these weeks I'm going to be working 100 to 200.

Speaker 1 If that's even mathematical. But the reason why we work so much is because our job is fun.

Speaker 5 I agree.

Speaker 1 Listen, I'll do 68 hours a week.

Speaker 5 All I said is that I'm going to work twice as hard as the winner so that I don't have to work. I can work twice as hard at all in the summer in the summer.

Speaker 2 And then it all evens out. Isn't this what you did? Like you said that you were going to work really hard September and October too?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I haven't golfed at all. I've barely golfed this.
Barely golfed at all. Nice catch.
Nice catch. Nice catch.
A couple for work, but

Speaker 1 my point to him was:

Speaker 1 in the football season, we have to work a lot because it's football season. In the offseason is actually when we can start doing a lot more of the fun office stuff.

Speaker 1 And Hank was like, well, what about golf?

Speaker 9 Well, we can do golf content.

Speaker 1 That also was broached where it was like, if I'm streaming in the golf simulator, that's work. I said, yes.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The moral of the story is like, no one's gonna work no one in this room will be working harder than me this winter and then no one will be working less than you in the summer and that's how I think America was should be that's that's the you're no actually you're European you're you're on the European calendar yeah that's true you're I mean Europeans do it right they take midday naps siestas you're still you're still on like the the high school calendar yeah where you work you want summer break he works really hard September through like early June yeah and then not at all of the summer right you want summer break yes Yeah.

Speaker 2 I actually don't disagree with that because that's like the most shocking thing about graduating from college. It's like, wait, I don't get summers off anymore.
This sucks. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm more like we just spent a lot of money on this big office.

Speaker 2 I would like people to work in the summer.

Speaker 5 And I will.

Speaker 1 On select days.

Speaker 2 But you can golf in the office, hank.

Speaker 1 It's not the same.

Speaker 5 I know, but travel and stuff, it's like, oh, this was travel trips.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Whoa, I didn't realize that.

Speaker 2 So you're going to fly out on Thursday night and then come back Saturday night, like every weekend?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 5 Sunday morning? Sunday morning.

Speaker 6 But you said you wanted Mondays. Yeah.
So that would be go back.

Speaker 1 No, that'd be fun. That'd be local golf.
That'd be for golf. That'd be local golf.

Speaker 5 No, I also threw out the idea. I mean, Big Cat is just like, whatever.
I also threw out.

Speaker 1 I'm setting a tone.

Speaker 5 I threw out

Speaker 5 half days Friday, half days Monday.

Speaker 1 He tried to kid shame me, too. He was like, I have golf, you have kids.
I was like, but I work my schedule. Like, I go home for two hours to put my kids to bed.

Speaker 1 I'm back at the office whenever I need to be. Same.

Speaker 1 Hanks up for Mondays and Fridays.

Speaker 2 Hank would be willing to leave for two hours at a time if you meant golf, right?

Speaker 5 Listen,

Speaker 5 this is not a conversation I thought we were going to have in the podcast. We were just, you know, it was embracing the paint.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 We actually found that.

Speaker 5 The whole story, though, is that I will be,

Speaker 5 when we're in this office and it's up and running, like, I will be there more than anyone. And then the weather is going to get nice.
I'm going to be like, damn, I work so hard.

Speaker 5 I deserve some time off. And Big Kat's like, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 Right. We have a podcast outside today.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 We actually found a good middle ground. We said we're going to just take a wait-and-see approach.
Yeah. And that

Speaker 1 working hard in the winter doesn't equal getting to take the whole summer off. So Hank's got him over in everyone's mind.

Speaker 2 Hank is in a super strong negotiating position right now because we know that if Hank's not happy, that he'll come in and he'll be grumpy at work.

Speaker 1 That's true. And then we'd be like,

Speaker 2 God damn, I wish Hank was out on the golf course instead of here bringing everybody down.

Speaker 2 So we already know what you're up to preemptively.

Speaker 2 That's your move.

Speaker 5 And this was part of it that Bickett didn't really verbalize.

Speaker 5 I'm going to be working so hard

Speaker 5 this winter

Speaker 1 creating

Speaker 5 streaming golf content on the simulator that I'm going to have like have gotten so much better that I'm going to need to see how that replicates to the real game.

Speaker 1 You're going to work so hard.

Speaker 5 And the only reason that's happened is because I worked so hard in the winter.

Speaker 2 So when you're saying that you're going to work harder than anybody in this office, you mean you're actually going to be playing more golf than anybody in the office this winter time. Correct.

Speaker 5 Streaming content for the fans. Doing what?

Speaker 2 Golfing. To make it crystal clear.
Golfing.

Speaker 1 He's going to work so hard golfing this winter that he needs a break to golf this summer. Yep.

Speaker 2 Is what you just said. Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. Hot seat cooler on PFT.

Speaker 2 My hot seat.

Speaker 1 We did come to a very good understanding. I think we're in a good spot.

Speaker 1 It was a healthy debate that

Speaker 1 didn't get bad. It was just...

Speaker 1 We'll circle back. Yeah, we'll circle back.
We'll put a pin in it. Okay? We're going to put a pin in this.
All right, PFT, your hot seat cooler on.

Speaker 2 Okay, my hot seat is uh the Chargers social media account. Yeah, Chargers Twitter.
Uh, this is actually unrelated to the woman that was on TV during Monday Night Football.

Speaker 2 Um, Jury's still out whether or not she's a plant or not. She claims that she's not, but there are pictures of her being a die-hard Minnesota Vikings fan as well, allegedly.
And

Speaker 2 her claim is that she moved from Minnesota to LA, and now she's a die-hard Chargers fan.

Speaker 1 They're like the same team, though. Like, I have seen they actually kind of are.

Speaker 7 They score a lot of points and disappoint.

Speaker 2 Very disappointing. I would say the Falcons.
Somebody that moved from Atlanta to LA and decided to become a Chargers fan. If there's anybody out there like that, God bless you.

Speaker 2 I don't know how you're still alive. But more specifically, I found this post.
Actually, Kinjak found this post on Chargers Twitter. So it's from a guy named Chargers Truther.

Speaker 2 And when I first saw this, I was like, this guy is ridiculous. But now I think there actually might be something to his point.
So he tweeted this out last week.

Speaker 2 This is going to upset some people, but if I was running the Chargers Twitter account, I'd cut back on the social media stuff.

Speaker 2 We're here to hit people in the face and be warriors, warriors, not make jokes and be funny. Let's be serious.
I like that.

Speaker 2 And then somebody replied to him: the social media has zero to do with drafting, coaching, and our play on the field.

Speaker 2 Our social media team is legit the best in the business, and they're doing a great job attracting people who don't even watch football to be interested in their content.

Speaker 2 Chargers Truther responded, it affects team culture. Yeah.
And now I think he might be right. He's absolutely right.
I think that the Chargers' Twitter account is too funny. He's absolutely right.

Speaker 2 And it's resulted in actual on-the-field losses. Yeah, no, he's be serious.
This is culture matters. Football is a serious game.
Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 2 If you're asking guys, hey, is water wet when they come off the field?

Speaker 2 They're probably that's going to break their brains, and they're going to be thinking about that in the second half of a playoff game against the Jacksonville Jaguars instead of how to run a competent defense and keep the Chargers or keep the Chargers on the field.

Speaker 2 And when the defense is on the field, not let Trevor Lawrence goose step all over you. I actually, I'm starting to think that Chargers Truther, he might be true.
He's right.

Speaker 2 When you look at the best teams in the NFL over the last 20 years,

Speaker 2 Patriots, not great, not like anything flashy on social media, right? They don't play those gimmicky games. No.
Steelers don't really do the gimmicky stuff.

Speaker 1 Alabama football.

Speaker 2 Alabama football. Nope.
They don't engage in that. Football's serious.
Yeah. Not time for jokes.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's culture center.

Speaker 2 So I actually think that Charger's Truther might be right. It affects team culture.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Agreed.

Speaker 2 And then my cool throne

Speaker 2 is Terrell Owens. So T.O.

Speaker 2 T.O. was playing pickup basketball.
I think this was yesterday. And he got into a fight while he was playing pickup.

Speaker 2 And then after the game was over, the guy he was playing against drove a car into his leg. Like, drove a car onto the court and hit T.O.
in the knee and tried to run him over.

Speaker 2 T.O.'s fine, didn't have to go to the hospital.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 I think if you're playing pickup basketball against T.O., you're probably pretty sick of his shit by the end of it. Yes.
Because I would assume that he's just dunking on you constantly. I'd agree.

Speaker 2 And reminding you that he's dunking on you constantly.

Speaker 2 I think you should be allowed to hit Terrell Owens in the knee with a car, not injuring him, but just like enough to bruise him and spook him a little bit. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You should be allowed to do that to Terrell Owens. I'd agree.
Because

Speaker 2 you can't do anything on the court. You can't D him up.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He definitely pissing people off. But if he's fine, no harm, no foul.

Speaker 2 Exactly. No blood, no foul.
John Thompson would back him up. He'd run him over and then back again over him.
And as long as he didn't have anything broken, not a foul.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I agree. T.O.
just dominating people and pick up basketball is very funny. It's exactly what I would do if I was an athlete like him.

Speaker 2 I still think T.O. could suit up.
Yeah. I think he'd get in the league.
Definitely.

Speaker 1 All right, my hot seat is John Fisher, that fucking scumbag from the A's.

Speaker 1 Trevor May, who was a relief pitcher for the A's this year, I think he was on the Mets last year, did a live stream, Twitch stream, and he unloaded. So he retired, and then he unloaded on John Fisher.

Speaker 1 Great rant. He said, sell the team, dude, sell it.

Speaker 1 Let someone who actually takes pride in the things they own own something. There's actually people who give a shit about the game.
Let them do it. Take mommy and daddy's money somewhere else.
Dork.

Speaker 1 A dork is always good. If you're going to be a greedy fuck, own it.
There's nothing weaker than being afraid of cameras. Do what you're going to do, bro.
Whatever. You're a billionaire.
They exist.

Speaker 1 You guys have all the power. You shouldn't have any because you haven't earned any of it.
But anyway, whatever. Yeah, I like it.
I like it.

Speaker 2 Great retirement. Yeah.
Probably the best retirement speech I've ever heard.

Speaker 1 Calling a guy, calling a billionaire a dork. Actually, I know that hurts him.
Oh, for sure.

Speaker 2 I agree with the fact that John Fisher doesn't seem to take pride in owning the athletics at all. He takes pride in refreshing his bank account.
It's like, oh, the number went up today.

Speaker 2 And looking at parcels in Las Vegas. That's what he loves.
He loves just being like, oh, the value of my franchise went up. That's cool.
He doesn't care about what happens on the field.

Speaker 1 Take mommy and daddy's money somewhere else. Dork.

Speaker 2 It would suck. It would suck to play for an owner like that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's a piece of shit.

Speaker 1 And a dork. And a dork.
My cool throne.

Speaker 1 Oh, Jake. Oh, Jake.
Getting getting a call. Who's that phone?

Speaker 9 It's my dad. Oh.

Speaker 1 You want to take it? Nah, it's all right. Tell him what up.
Tell him what up. Will he be at the bachelor party?

Speaker 2 Yeah, his dad would. He asked him.

Speaker 1 His dad's cool. I don't think so, right? He could.
Yeah, he could. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Your mom could come too if she wanted.

Speaker 1 I didn't say it. Yep.

Speaker 1 I was just being inclusive.

Speaker 2 I invited his dad.

Speaker 1 My cool throne is Julio Jones. He's back.
We got him out of retirement. We asked the question a few weeks ago.
Is he retired? We didn't know what happened to him. He's on the Eagles.

Speaker 1 Max, Eagles, more loaded than ever.

Speaker 6 Yeah, he got signed to the practice squad. I think he'll eventually get brought up.

Speaker 5 He's not signing somewhere if he's not playing.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying. Also, a great reminder: the Julio Jones, his name's not Julio.

Speaker 1 Really? What is it? It's Quintorus Lopez Jones Jr. That's right, yeah.

Speaker 1 Great name. Yep.

Speaker 2 Great name. Max, dream team, though.
Big dream team vibes.

Speaker 1 Oh, congrats on Dream Team. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 This is the final piece.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 6 A 49-year-old receiver who's going to be a beast, but definitely not dream team.

Speaker 2 Dream team? No.

Speaker 6 But he could be good. So he's better than a wide receiver three right now.
Quez Watkins has been very bad.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 6 we've been looking for a wide receiver three. Maybe he's a guy.

Speaker 2 Also important to note that Larry Fitzgerald, I don't think, ever retired. I think he's just out there.
Yeah, I agree. He quiet quit.
He was just like, you know what?

Speaker 2 I'm just not going to play this year or the next year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I agree. I agree.
So, Quintorus, dream team. Dream team.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Congratulations to the Philadelphia Eagles for winning the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Congrats, Max. By the way, you guys are the city of champs now.
Because we're doing this,

Speaker 1 because we're taping this in the afternoon.

Speaker 1 You heard us talk about game two to start the show and Monday Night Football. Max,

Speaker 1 prediction, Max. Meryl Kelly called out the bank.

Speaker 1 I say

Speaker 6 7-4 Phillies.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 This is a time stamp. It is 4.49 on Tuesday afternoon.
7-4 Phillies.

Speaker 2 He did. He poked the bank.
He did.

Speaker 2 That's a rookie mistake. Big time.

Speaker 9 Also, did you guys know we have a bank series? Chase Field versus Citizens Bank Park.

Speaker 1 Oh, one's.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I wouldn't say Chase Field is the bank, though. It doesn't have the word bank in it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 It is a bank, though. It's a bank.
It is a bank. It is a bank.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, there's a bank.

Speaker 2 There's only one bank.

Speaker 1 We'll cash in. Love it.
All right, Jake.

Speaker 9 My hot seat's the Miami Marlins.

Speaker 9 The Marlins, once again, a very stupid move, they parted ways with their general manager, Kim Ng, who helped construct their first full-season playoff team in 20 years, and they wanted to bring in someone above her.

Speaker 9 And she literally turned this franchise over,

Speaker 9 and then they said, we want to bring someone in. She's like, all right, I'm going to pack my bags.

Speaker 2 Isn't this kind of the Marlins M.O.?

Speaker 9 It's ridiculous. They get good players, they have some momentum, and then the self-inflicted wounds just make them irrelevant again.

Speaker 1 Extremely miscegenic by them.

Speaker 2 Yes, agreed.

Speaker 9 I just don't understand.

Speaker 2 I think I know why. So if you look back at the history of the Miami Marlins or the Florida Marlins,

Speaker 2 she did too good of a job getting good players. Now the owner's like, wait, I'm going to have to pay these good players? I don't want to do that.
You really fucked me over here.

Speaker 2 I got to get a worse GM so I don't have to worry about paying out the luxury tax if it ever comes to that.

Speaker 9 Yeah, it just doesn't make sense that they've made the playoffs three full seasons in their history and they have momentum and then they do this.

Speaker 9 And then you wonder why people care more about the Dolphins and the Heat.

Speaker 2 Well, she is the only Marlins GM ever to make the postseason not win a World Series. Correct.
Maybe that's why.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 9 So it's disappointing, but

Speaker 9 we'll see what happens. My cool throne is the Olympics.
We have five sports sports that are officially Olympic sports as of this week.

Speaker 1 Okay. Whoa.

Speaker 9 Baseball slash softball.

Speaker 1 In.

Speaker 9 La Crosse. In.

Speaker 1 We better win this. Fuck yes.

Speaker 9 Cricket, in.

Speaker 1 Squash, in.

Speaker 9 And flag football.

Speaker 1 Oh, hell yeah. In.
2028.

Speaker 9 And it's a home game because it's in Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 love that. Multiple cities.
No, that's the World Cup.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah.
World Cup's going to be on multiple continents next year after the U.S.

Speaker 9 Yeah, U.S., Canada. Oh, no.

Speaker 2 Not this one, but like the one they just announced this week. It's multiple continents.
Which one is that?

Speaker 1 Where is that?

Speaker 2 I forget what year it is, but I think it's going to be in Europe, Africa, and South America. They're just getting as much money as possible.

Speaker 2 I love how corrupt FIFA is. It's the best.

Speaker 9 Flag football, like they're going to be bigger favorites USA than basketball.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Can our pros play?

Speaker 9 I think so, and it's in July.

Speaker 2 Can you manage Tyree Hill playing flag football?

Speaker 1 Oh, that's going to be awesome.

Speaker 1 It's also going to be so awesome.

Speaker 2 It's going to be great to see what skill sets translate to flag football that don't translate to regular football also could retired guys in the nfl like they could play flag football like brady could suit up flag football oh tyree hill has already said that he wants to play okay all right gold medal yes easy they have to win gold right oh yeah they don't they're the biggest bus in the history of the world do you think embrace debate do you think that there could be like a very small like woman gymnast That's super fast that could be a great flag football player.

Speaker 1 Could you cut?

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 Cut NFL players.

Speaker 2 Well, if you're playing flag football, maybe.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 6 There's one other person who also

Speaker 2 jumping up in the air. Maybe.
You can do like backflips and shit over the line. Yeah, maybe.
Don't have to worry about getting jacked up.

Speaker 1 There's one other person who said they're in. And I'm curious if

Speaker 1 I saw it. It's Gronk.

Speaker 1 Maybe too old. Yeah, that's.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 No, he'd be good.

Speaker 1 No, or he's flagged football. The whole reason Gronk is Gronk is like you can't bring him down.
If you can grab his flag, he's fast.

Speaker 1 four. How many years? Four years? 2028, LA.
Yeah, I don't think so.

Speaker 5 Gronk's not a guy that like quits football and gets fat, though.

Speaker 10 He would be training.

Speaker 1 He would be good for red zone targets.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Like, Gronk is probably in better shape than like Gronk's, I'm assuming, could come back and play football tomorrow and be in fine shape.

Speaker 2 But I mean, Travis Kelsey, if it was flag football, would be so much better than Gronk.

Speaker 9 No. Yeah, it's July 14th of 30th.

Speaker 2 Kyle Pitts would be amazing.

Speaker 9 In 2028, so the NFL schedule works well.

Speaker 2 All right, we should go to it.

Speaker 9 That'd be sick.

Speaker 2 Jamari wedding out there, same plan?

Speaker 1 Yeah, we should just do it all.

Speaker 1 Okay, was that your cool turn? That was my cool turn. Okay, all right.
We have a great interview with Baldy, our guy, probably the number one football guy in the world,

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on uh one of our favorite recurring guests it is baldy brian baldinger the road dog himself we were just talking he's been everywhere he's calling games every weekend you can see him on tv uh first of all let's start there how has the how's the first six weeks been for the road dog you've been everywhere yeah no it's been great you know i was up uh at the at metlife stadium on sunday watching the jets take down the eagles and you know i remember like minutes before like an hour before kickoff, I'm talking to Jeff Albrick, the defense coordinator of the Jets.

Speaker 8 And he just gives me this look like, what would you do today, Baldy? Like, he's got no, no sauce. He's got no JD.
He's got no echoes. He's, he's taking corners off the practice squad.

Speaker 8 And I'm like, well, I would play zone all day and let Jalen cut you up. So whatever he did, man, you know, it worked out.
Like it was.

Speaker 8 just one of those games where everything fell the right way. But that was a lot of fun because you got Jet fans and Eagle fans.
they're both boisterous, they're loud.

Speaker 8 Nobody left the stadium, they came down to the final ticks. It was awesome because, like, the week before, I was in New England and they stunk, you know, and there's the Saints and the Patriots.

Speaker 8 I'm like, the Patriots could hit the ball 100 times, they wouldn't score 100 times. Like, it was just that bad.
Yeah, yeah, but you know, that's when you got to earn your money when the game is bad.

Speaker 1 That's true. So, so let's talk about the Eagles Jets game real quick.
Would you say that

Speaker 1 Eagles fans should be even more appreciative of Lane Johnson because when he went out, you could see right away, it was night and day that the Eagles' offensive line is not what we've seen the last couple of years when he's not out there and the Jets were just able to feast on Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 8 Yeah, well, I mean, look, there's only one Lane Johnson. I mean, he's the best.
Like, the last sack he has given up was week 11 of 2020 against the Cleveland Browns. So,

Speaker 8 you know, he's actually texting me from the locker room, you know, just, you know, ask me how things are going.

Speaker 1 I'm like, they miss you, you know, they miss you bad out there,

Speaker 8 you know. But

Speaker 8 I just worked out at his, over at his barn just like an hour ago. So he's doing fine.
He'll be already for Miami.

Speaker 8 But, you know, like when you have elite players like that, like nothing against Jack Driscoll.

Speaker 8 He's been in the system a long time, four years, and he's played good football, but you're going up against Bryce Huff. You know, I call him the Bugatti.

Speaker 8 Like he's just, like, he's just a rare sports car, you know, and Jermaine Johnson, like these freaks that the Jets have on their defensive line, it's just hard. It's hard for anybody.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You know, yeah.

Speaker 2 And the Eagles have a pretty good defensive line, too. Jalen Carter, obviously, I would say, defensive rookie of the year right now, playing at that level.

Speaker 8 Well, he didn't play last week, right? You know, so like they missed him last week. He's a freak, though.
Like, physically, when you see him, you go, that's like he's as wide as a refrigerator.

Speaker 8 He's got a base that's just like redwood trees. And then he's quick as a cat.

Speaker 1 And,

Speaker 8 you know, he's from Opopka, Florida, you know, the same town as Warren Sapp. So Sapp's like, keep your eye on that kid, man.

Speaker 8 Like he's, you know, like he's got advanced skills, you know, for 21, 22 years old.

Speaker 8 And the league is just discovering it because there's just rare when you find somebody not in any position that can just move big bodies. Like he can just move big bodies out of the way.

Speaker 8 Like a lot of, you know, there's a lot of titty blocking going on in this league, you know, guys just run into each other. Nothing happens.
Jalen Carter hits you like he rocks you.

Speaker 2 He just hits people differently. Yeah, he's violent.
And it seems like

Speaker 2 he's got veteran strength, too. Like he doesn't look like, I don't think he's had a welcome to the NFL moment.
I think he's given other guys like welcome to my rookie season moments.

Speaker 2 And he seems like he's built in a physical way where he's primed to just dominate the league for the next 10 years.

Speaker 8 You want, you know, you kind of want to wait. You remember like, well, this is before your time.

Speaker 8 And like this came before before you guys, but like, there was a time on Monday night one year when the Cowboys played the Patriots and it was Randy White against John Hanna.

Speaker 8 And like everybody couldn't wait to see this matchup, you know, like because you only got to see one game or two games a week.

Speaker 8 But like, I feel like when the Eagles play the Cowboys, like Zach Martin and Jalen Carter, we're going to find out, you know, like that's just strength on strength.

Speaker 2 that's good those kind of matchups like the game and the game that's going to be fun to watch yeah yeah i love that I want to talk to you about another terrifying defensive player on the best defense in the league, the Cleveland Browns.

Speaker 2 They got Miles Garrett, and Miles Garrett has been playing out of his mind. It almost seems like the game is,

Speaker 2 I don't want to say it's boring for him, but he's doing shit before the snap where he's just messing with the other team.

Speaker 2 You saw that against the Titans, where he started going in motion and bringing two tight ends with him, and they had to take a delay game penalty because they couldn't figure out how to block him correctly.

Speaker 2 And then he's like dribbling a fake basketball between his legs before the ball snapped. He's just dominant to a level I haven't seen from a player in a very, very long time.

Speaker 2 But the Browns defense is more than just Miles Garrett. So the question I had was, besides Miles Garrett, who we all know is a game changer, who is the most important player on that Browns defense?

Speaker 8 The defensive coordinator. Yeah.
Jim Schwartz. Yeah.
He's the most important guy. They've had talent there in Cleveland.
Now, it's elite right now because they got Dalvin Tomlinson, Zadarius Smith.

Speaker 8 You know, they've got some dogs up front, you know, and they picked up this Okaronco from the Houston texans who's a good football player you know he's just in his fifth year as a young kid and then you get like jeremiah owuso koromoa he's been there for three years nobody even knew he was there now with swartz now he's like blitzing off the edge he's like like he's attacking the line of scrimmage like the 49ers didn't know what hit him they moved so much faster than the 49ers the other day and then behind it you get martin emerson and Denzel Ward and Greg Newsome and Greg Delpitt.

Speaker 8 Like you get these guys that, all right, you know what? 49ers haven't seen pressed man coverage. Not the way we're going to play it.

Speaker 8 And we're going to press the line of scrimmage and then we're going to play sticky man coverage. And the quarterback hadn't seen that.
The receivers hadn't seen it. Shanahan hadn't seen it.

Speaker 8 And they just, you know, they just dog pressed him right out of the stadium.

Speaker 1 So, so about Jim Schwartz, is it scheme or is it attitude?

Speaker 1 Or is it a combo and which one is like, you know, because he is phenomenal as a defensive coordinator, but to explain it to just a regular person, what makes him different than all the other defensive coordinators right now?

Speaker 8 You know what?

Speaker 8 It's an awesome question. You know why? Because it is personality.
He's a cocky son of a bitch. He just is.
Like, you know, he was a mathematician at Georgetown. Like, the guy's mine.

Speaker 8 You know, he doesn't look like it. And he grew up, you know, in Cleveland, basically with Belichick and that whole group back there in the mid-90s.
But, you know,

Speaker 8 he's a statistician, mathematician. So numbers, like he gets all that.
But then

Speaker 8 he lets you know know that this scheme and what we're running, this is why we're doing it. This is what we're going to do.
This is how we're going to affect the game.

Speaker 8 And we're going to throw a little wrinkles in week to week. But we're going to come out there like cocky son of a bitch.
Yeah. That's how we're going to play.
And it starts with him. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Like he has that type of swag, you know? And then, you know, like you're talking about Miles Garrett, you know, like Miles is different this year to me.

Speaker 8 Like even when he lines up on a center and he looks like Alan Iverson just ready to cross over dribble on you. Like if you're in the center, you're terrified.

Speaker 8 Like, he's going to make you look bad, period. And then, is he going right, left, or is he coming right through me? And I got to snap the ball.
Like, he was never put in that position before.

Speaker 8 Yeah, yeah. You know, he's never done anything like that.
So, you know, even like Sunday, like, he did, you know, he was going up against Trent Williams.

Speaker 8 It was just a classic contest, the best against the best. So it's not like he made these splash plays, but the defense as a whole was terrifying.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
And it is crazy watching the Browns play defense because they play with that edge. They put a little shit to them.
All right, so Baldy, I am a member of Tuanon,

Speaker 1 proud member of Tuannon. I saw you breaking down some of his film today.
People still say, oh, it's, you know, he's got Tyreek, he's got Jalen Wilder, he's got McDaniel.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, anyone could be good in that. What is Tua doing? Because I know you disagree, to make this offense go.

Speaker 1 And like, when watching this offense, have you ever seen anything quite like it in the last, you know, maybe since the Rams?

Speaker 8 No, I've never seen anything like it.

Speaker 8 It's not to, it's not to say that they can't be defended. You know, the Patriots did a good job against them.
Buffalo did a good job against them. It can be defended at times.
A couple of things.

Speaker 8 One, I remember I went out to a mini-camp in Miami this year.

Speaker 8 It was like, you know, it was one of those days where the heat index was through the roof and the wet ball, you know, it was like one of these hot, humid days in June.

Speaker 8 So I go out there and they have a drill where literally Tua. is doing nothing but bootleg fakes for 30 straight minutes, throwing it to Tyree, like one rep after another, him and Mike White,

Speaker 8 one to the right, one to the left. So practice ends and I go, Tua, you think you got that bootleg fake down? He goes, you know, I'm wondering the same thing, man.

Speaker 8 I'm asking, like, when we're going to get to the next level of the playbook. He goes, and the coach is like, when we get it right, when we get him.

Speaker 8 So anyways, I watched that play fake against Carolina. I just watched it before I came on with you guys.

Speaker 1 Like

Speaker 8 the entire Panther defense goes with the fake to Mostert. And while that's going on, here comes Jalen Waddle and Tyreek Hill the other direction.
And like nobody even pays attention to him.

Speaker 8 And next thing you know, Waddle's doing his dance in the end zone.

Speaker 8 Their play action fakes, the mechanics that Tua has, ball fakes, the subtle little, you know, blind, you know, Magic Johnson passes that he has, like that stuff takes time. And his mechanics,

Speaker 8 even when he was, you know, they said that he couldn't play and all this stuff. If you watched his mechanics two years ago, like with the Chiefs, like that guy can flat out play the game.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 And I don't care how tall he is. I don't care how many injuries he's had.
That guy can play the game. Tyreek has said it.

Speaker 8 People are, you know, he's at the top of the leaderboard and every stat right now. But forget about all that stuff.
Just watch him play. Like, he is, first of all, it's an entertaining sport.

Speaker 8 Like, he's as entertaining a player right now. There's Mahomes, there's Jalen Hurst, there's Lamar.

Speaker 8 You've got to have an entertainer. at that position.
Otherwise, there's nothing to hold your interest.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 And the Dolphins do look awesome. And we are, we're dumb.
We're dumb fans. We

Speaker 2 watch what we watch, and then we have our pre-baked mindsets, things that we've learned over years and years of watching football.

Speaker 2 And there's like this small little caveman part of our brains that says, the Dolphins are great, but when the weather gets cold, watch out. I don't know if that offense is going to hold up.

Speaker 2 Also, we're forgetting the fact that if cold weather does slow you down, then it probably also slows down the other team a little bit too.

Speaker 2 But there is that caveman part of our brains that say these guys, electric offense might not work in the playoffs so can you either confirm our our idiot brains or can you tell us that we're dumb as shit and explain to us why this could work in the playoffs well let's just say let's just say miami has the best record yeah and it all goes through miami and then they never have to go to cleveland or to buffalo or to kansas city so that's that's you know if i was

Speaker 8 If I was Mike, you know, McDaniel and I had, you know, his bizarre brain of his, like I might say to my team, like, let's play for home field advantage. Let's have it all come through Miami.

Speaker 8 And we never have to go to the cold weather. Maybe that would motivate Tyreek Hill and Jalen Water, who look like, you know, put me in sprinter weather.
We'll just keep running by people.

Speaker 8 But if you have to go to one of those places, just because, Kansas City, whatever, like, I think speed travels, you know, like we, you know, the one thing about Mike is, you know, there's a reason why Kyle Shanahan wouldn't let him leave, you know, Houston, Cleveland, Atlanta, San Francisco.

Speaker 8 He wouldn't let him get out of the door because that guy's eye for running backs is like, no, like Raheem Mostert was signed by the Eagles as a free agent, you know, in 2015. He'd been to Miami.

Speaker 8 He'd been to all these things until Mike found him and put him in San Francisco, changed the whole offense. And you watched him last week, Carolina had nothing, no idea how to tackle him.

Speaker 8 His thing is speed

Speaker 8 and ability to run through contact like a chain.

Speaker 2 Like these guys averaging, Devona Chain is averaging 12 yards a carrier yeah as a running back like it's it's sickening but like nobody can tackle the guy yeah like he's looking for speed vision and just this toughness that a lot of players just don't have like they just bounce off contact you know what i love seeing that's that's all much yeah in that offense uh he's starting to put alec ingold in motion he's starting to put his blockers like his fullback in motion uh and then keep his running back stationary so that the fullback can have an even better angle and a running start on the block like we've seen it with receivers uh You know, you send Tyreek Hill out in motion to the side, and it's almost like he gets a head start on the play, like it's the CFL.

Speaker 2 But McDaniel's doing it with their lead blocker on plays, and

Speaker 2 their running game is actually, it's sexy to watch. It reminds me of the 49ers in that way, where it's like, I really love watching the Miami Dolphins run the football.

Speaker 8 Well, so, you know, nobody runs more pre-snap motion than the Miami Dolphins. Second is only San Francisco.
So every single play has a shift and a motion, at least a shift and a motion.

Speaker 8 There could be more. So if you think about you're the defense, okay?

Speaker 8 You're,

Speaker 8 I don't know, you're Zach Cunningham this week from the Philadelphia Eagles, middle linebacker. And the Dolphins line up in a formation.
So you take a snapshot of that formation.

Speaker 8 Now here comes Ingle from wide receiver to the fullback eye formation. Now you're Zach Cunningham.
Now you see a different picture. Now they're in I formation.
Now here comes Tyree Hill and in motion.

Speaker 8 And he might go in motion and come back and do an orbit motion, come back the other way. And now the Zach Cunningham is going for the third time now.
He's had to readjust his eye.

Speaker 8 So all they're trying to do is to get you to hesitate. Because that's all it takes with speed.

Speaker 8 If you hesitate, like Denver, like Denver, nobody played that bad a defense in this in this century in the NFL when they played Denver. But they were all frozen.

Speaker 8 They honestly didn't, they were just stuck. They didn't know what to do.
And next thing you know, these guys are buying. And so that's what this whole offense is predicated upon.

Speaker 8 Like just getting you to hesitate, to freeze, to overthink, to go the wrong way, misdirection. Like it's, it's brilliant.

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Speaker 1 All right, so another team I want to talk about, Lions.

Speaker 1 I think Lions fans all know their team is good, but I also think that through years of history and torture, they're like, hey, is there a chance this could be fool's gold? I don't think so.

Speaker 1 I think Jared's been playing incredible football. Their defense looks good.
What do you see when you're watching the Lions and how they're able to adapt with injuries and keep winning these games?

Speaker 8 Well, I see great coaching. I mean, you know, you think about it.
Last year, they were the worst defensive football. Nobody was even close.
And they were the 30th ranked run defensive football.

Speaker 8 They're the number one ranked run defensive football right now. Tampa Bay couldn't get two yards of carry last week.
Like they play the game the right way.

Speaker 8 They play tough, physical, with great fundamentals. You freeze them on any play.
Their knees are bent. They've got separation.
They're getting off blocks.

Speaker 8 This Alex Anzalone, the middle linebacker, they call him Thor. Like he plays like Thor.
Like he's as good as any middle linebacker in football.

Speaker 8 Roquan Smith, pick a guy in this business, Fred Warner, like he's as good as anybody. And then you just watch the talent level.

Speaker 8 You know, nobody knows who Jerry Jacobs is at right corner, but he tackles like a son of a bitch. He's got three interceptions.
Kirby Joseph, Aiden Hutchinson, you know, like Jack Campbell.

Speaker 8 Like they're talented on defense right now. And they're playing like it.
And so, and then last week, you saw what Jameson Williams can do. Like that guy, I nicknamed The Comet today.
He's a comet.

Speaker 8 Oh, I like that. Like, they don't know.
Like, he runs right by.

Speaker 8 He likes a shreaking comet in the sky they ran right by tampa and then look like willie may he's tracking a ball center field yeah you know he made a stop on an 18 yard stop route against jamel dean jamel dean is still skinning off the field right now trying to come put his brakes on like he put a jake brake on jamel dean i was like oh my god he's gonna break ankles this guy and he's just getting started yeah that's my favorite thing to talk about is like okay it's great to have a guy that goes zero to 60 faster than anybody but it's almost better to have a guy that goes from 60 to zero faster than anybody.

Speaker 2 You're stop and start. Stop and start.
Yeah. Now, do you have a vote? Do you vote for MVP? Do you vote for Offensive Player of the Year? No, I don't do any of that.
Oh, you should.

Speaker 2 I don't really care about that stuff. But you watch more TV.

Speaker 1 They don't do it.

Speaker 8 No, the point is,

Speaker 8 I'm frustrated by all that stuff because it's all regular season. And to me, like, if you're the San Francisco 49ers or the Eagles, like the regular season is important.
Don't get me wrong.

Speaker 8 Seeding is important. But to these teams, the only thing that's important is January football.

Speaker 8 So like when you're, like, I remember last year, I thought Max Crosby was the defensive player of the year, like by early December. So I'm doing a game

Speaker 8 in San Francisco, and it's in pregame warm-up. I'm down the field, and Dick Bose comes by, and Nick gives me like a little shug on the shoulder, and he just whispers to me.

Speaker 8 So you think Max is the MVP? I go, well, he plays every single step, Nick. Like, I see you, you know, you're going off the field.
He never comes off the field.

Speaker 8 He goes, yeah, yeah well i'm trying to win a championship though so his point was a good point yeah like he's trying to play 20 games max might play 17 games so i understand the point but the point is my bigger point is can we just play this thing all the way out and then award these players the trophies i agree because i feel like what you do in january is vitally important yeah or at least wait a couple weeks into the postseason yeah no it's true it's true but but if you were to if you were to have an mvp vote am i am i delusional to think that jared goff is in the conversation right now?

Speaker 8 No, they're five and one. He's playing great football.
The offense is dynamic. The guy's tough as can be.

Speaker 8 Like, you know, everybody thought he was this rental in Detroit, and they'll just use these resources to go find. You're not going to find a better quarterback than Jared Goff.
Yeah. He knows,

Speaker 8 first of all, he's in lockstep with a really talented offensive coordinator, Ben Johnson. And so they really see the field the same way.
He's got a stud rookie tight end in Laporta.

Speaker 8 He's got a number one receiver in Amon Ross, St. Brown.
He's got a bunch of running backs that get banged up, but

Speaker 8 they just keep rolling along. He's got an outstanding offensive line.

Speaker 8 There's not many people in this world like Panay Sewell, you know, that could just, like, if there was an 18-wheeler truck with the flat tire, he could move the

Speaker 8 truck off the highway just by himself.

Speaker 1 Yeah, man, triple. He's at that kind of.

Speaker 8 But like, he's not, he, he's not going to play any better or go anywhere else

Speaker 8 like he is right now in Detroit. This might be the best team he's been on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I would say. And he went to a Super Bowl.
Yeah. All right.
I know. know.
All right. So I'm at the point in the season.

Speaker 1 It happened earlier than I thought that I'm like, don't even want to talk about the Bears anymore, but we were talking about it before we started. So very quickly,

Speaker 1 is it Justin Fields or is it the offensive coordinator?

Speaker 8 I mean, I thought they were improving, honestly, until last week. So the opening took, they played the Minnesota Vikings last weekend.
And if you watch

Speaker 8 10 seconds of the Minnesota Vikings this year, the defense coordinator, Brian Flores, lines up in a blitz-zero look puts everybody in the defensive line they're either all coming or some are dropping or they're just playing man coverage behind like you see it every week it's what they do first play of the game they line up in it and justin fields gets sacked and they act like they were surprised by it right i'm like did anybody watch one game of film the whole week to like the guy like here comes hunter smith right off the edge like he's up there for a reason and when i saw that i was like okay i'm not going to kill the bears because obviously there's something dysfunctional there to get beat on that play like that right away and then they put you know the kid tyson badgin in there you know look the kid was playing millersville college last year at this time for homecoming now he's running the bears offense and they got him in these empty sets against these blitz zero looks and i'm like help the kid out yeah give it give it to the running back give it to the like let cole comet take a snap like you putting this kid that's a free agent in there like in this divisional game.

Speaker 8 Like, I don't know, I was so frustrated. All right, could it? I just thought, you know, let me just watch the right tackle.

Speaker 1 I like that. Yeah, yeah, good answer.
All right. So that was the Bears talk.
That's all I needed to hear. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 It does seem like they're doing Justin Fields a disservice. Like anybody in that position right now, you can't expect to excel with what's going on upstairs at that team.

Speaker 2 What about the Bills? What about our beloved Buffalo Bills? They seem like the most schizophrenic team in the NFL where they just go out and they play stinkers.

Speaker 2 And then the next week they'll go out and they'll light up the scoreboard and their offense looks great. And everybody's like, oh, the Bills are fixed.

Speaker 2 And then the week after that, we'll be like, what's wrong with the Buffalo Bills?

Speaker 2 So I guess specifically from an offensive standpoint, because the defense doesn't look too shabby, but from an offensive standpoint, what do the Bills need to fix?

Speaker 8 Well, I don't know. You know, they're trying to run the ball better.
James Cook, you know, like they're just trying to run it better with what they have.

Speaker 8 They've really addressed the offense line with two guards, you know, rookie guard, right guard, and, you know, free agent left. They got a lot bigger up front.

Speaker 8 They look like they can run the ball a little bit better. There's just not a lot of timing to their offense.
A lot of it is Josh being Josh, which is just a freak athlete.

Speaker 8 And, you know, he runs around, you know, some weeks and like against Washington, and he can do whatever he wants to Stephon Diggs.

Speaker 8 And, you know, and then sometimes they fall in love with Stephon like they did last week early in the game. And he was the only one getting the ball and nobody else is touching.

Speaker 8 I just feel like there's got to be some

Speaker 8 rhythm. You can't just play freelance football all the time and just try to extend these plays.

Speaker 8 It looks fun on highlights when it works, but when it doesn't work, like you're off the field pretty quick. So I feel like there's got to be a little bit more timing to the offense.

Speaker 8 Dalton Kincaid's a really good player. Dawson, like the tight ends are good.
Like, I just feel like

Speaker 8 they've got to figure this thing out where Josh can still be Josh. He can still be this, you know, this guy that I'm not going to say he's playing hero ball.
That's not what he does.

Speaker 8 But sometimes I feel like that's what they strive to do.

Speaker 8 And yes, it's difficult to defend, but it also leads to mistakes and turnovers like it has. Like, I just think they need to get into a more of a rhythm on offense right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I can see that

Speaker 8 on time, timing.

Speaker 2 Yeah, like going a nice long drive, put together some nice plays, let the offense get some confidence, and then that builds over later in the game.

Speaker 1 Heroes.

Speaker 8 They'll get the offense confidence, but like they've lost Matt Milano. They've lost Tredavius White.
They lost one of their safeties for a while. Like they're losing.
They lost Greg Rousseau.

Speaker 8 They're losing good players, you know. And so,

Speaker 8 you know, we got to see about some of these young guys that are replacing them right now, how they hold up. Like, you know, Kair Elam wasn't playing for a reason.

Speaker 8 I mean, I know he was a first-round pick, but he got beaten out by a six-round pick from Villanova, you know, and so now all these corners are forced to play.

Speaker 8 And, you know, none of them are Tredavious White. Yeah.
So they had to replace really good players. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. So we judge teams on their win-loss, which is stupid.

Speaker 1 You obviously watched the tape. Tell us a team that maybe doesn't have the record right now, but you're like, they're playing good ball.
And

Speaker 1 I'm going to expect something from them in the second half of the season.

Speaker 8 Well, I feel like if Seattle can get healthy, they're a team that can make noise because they play. You know, Pete Carroll's a great coach.
He's just a great coach.

Speaker 8 And from everything, from a motivator to like, he's got a vision of how to play the game.

Speaker 8 Like, I feel like Seattle, they've been playing rookies on the offensive line and they've gotten beat up there. And, you know,

Speaker 8 they've got some growing pains on defense with some young guys. I feel like that's a team that could round out into form.
Like, I believe that

Speaker 8 they could make some noise. I would say right now that if you're not like, like, Atlanta frustrates me.
Yes.

Speaker 8 Because I feel like if you could get Tom Brady away from some celebrity of function he's at right now and put him in a Falcon uniform, I feel like they could win a Super Bowl. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Like the quarterback is just, it's too up and down. They got the town is ridiculous.

Speaker 8 Like you, you see it, you know, whether it's Bijan or Pitts or London and what they have, like they've got, and they've got a solid offensive line. Like they just.

Speaker 8 They shouldn't be losing these games right now. Their defense is sound and it's going to get better because they got some young players.
I feel like Atlanta,

Speaker 8 they might find their stride before this thing is. I like that.

Speaker 1 That's a good answer.

Speaker 2 They do look tough on defense. They were playing my commanders last week, and I just have one commander's question for you because we talk about them enough.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 2 what is going wrong with that defense? Because Sam Howell looks good at the quarterback position. The offense looks okay at times.
I'd like to see him run the ball a little bit more if they can.

Speaker 2 But the offense doesn't seem to be the problem in D.C. this year.
It seems to be Jack Del Rio's defense, and they've got four of the best defensive linemen up front playing almost every down.

Speaker 2 And you'd expect a little bit more from that group and with the talent that they have. So what is going wrong in D.C.? How do you fix it?

Speaker 8 Well, I mean, you got four number one draft picks in the defense line. That doesn't mean they're great players.
Like they got to play harder than what they play. You know, Chase has to play harder.

Speaker 8 Like he's got talent, but he's he's blockable, though. I see tight ends block him.
You know, he's got to play harder.

Speaker 8 They've got to, and I told Chase in Montez Sweat this a couple weeks ago before the Eagles game. I said, you know, like

Speaker 8 it's up to them to

Speaker 8 basically,

Speaker 8 the great defense is in his whole business right now. Like there's none in Chicago.
Sorry about that. I mean, they're trying to play hard.
But like defenses are built around the defensive lines.

Speaker 8 The great defenses in football have game changers on the defensive line. And they change the game.
They hit the quarterback. They hit the quarterback's arm, ball pops up.

Speaker 8 Like they chase the quarterback like the Jets did the other day to Jalen Hurts. Like, put your resources in your defense line.
But if you do that, make sure they're dogs.

Speaker 1 Like, get after it.

Speaker 8 And, like, never stop hustling. Like, you watch this Jalen Carter now.
Like, he's a dog. Like, the ball's thrown, get down the field and go chase it, knock it loose.

Speaker 8 They've got to do more up front than what they're doing right now.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I feel like Sweat has that effort. Sweat doesn't give up.
Allen has that effort. Payne has that effort.

Speaker 2 Chase Young, once every like three or four plays, he'll just stand you up, stick an arm out, and not even try to get downfield and get blocked by a tight end, like you said.

Speaker 8 Dace, right now, like he needs a better arsenal to attack an offensive tackle or protection than what he has.

Speaker 8 He can't, he doesn't have the power just to run people over the way some guys do in this business, but he hasn't developed a good enough arsenal to beat people. And that's what you need.

Speaker 8 You need tackles out there. like going what the hell is he going to do next he's lighting up wide he's lighting up short like i don't know what you know like you need to geek those tackles guessing.

Speaker 8 And then when this chip comes and the running back comes to help out, like, you got to defeat that. Yeah.
Like Max Crosby defeats every block comes at him. Like he's just a different atom.

Speaker 8 But, you know,

Speaker 8 Chase right now needs the other guys to make something happen. And then he can use his athletic ability to run and chase and make something happen.
But they're not doing enough up front right now.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. So the one of the most volatile debates online right now, this is why I love you, Baldy, because you watch the film.
You give us a fair take.

Speaker 1 Justin Herbert, tell us what you see with Justin Herbert, because there are people who think he can do no wrong. There are people that think he stinks.
It's clearly somewhere in the middle.

Speaker 1 And like last night was a perfect example where he misses a few throws that win that game, and it's fair to criticize him, even though he is a phenomenal quarterback.

Speaker 8 Well, it's a talent. He's a talent.
Like you watch Justin Herbert warm up and throw a football. You're like, nobody looks better than that.

Speaker 8 The ball spins, it comes out, it's like a tight spiral, like he looks the part.

Speaker 8 But, you know, last night, they seriously had a game plan to go after Deron Bland with Keenan Allen, and he double moved him twice, and he was completely shook the corner.

Speaker 8 And you just got to make, like, he sailed both, both plays to him. Like, if you complete just one of those, maybe it's not a three-point game.
Maybe it's a charger win.

Speaker 8 So, like, they can't run the ball.

Speaker 8 Like, you know, Dallas played four safeties last night you got to run a team out of four safeties you got to make them put bigger people on the field they couldn't do it but i thought he missed two big shots there i thought the fourth and one where he rolled out um he could have just taken off with it like he's he's running more this year than he has in the past like he's run for three touchdowns this year he didn't run for any last year i know he's got the bad banged up you know finger on the left hand but i i felt on fourth and one go get like mahomes is not hesitating he's just going to go get the first down right and i feel like that part of him is missing like immediately as soon as he saw keenan allen double on that fourth and one rollout like just go just go get the for your 6'6 your 240 pound just go get the first down yeah yeah that's a good answer uh what about the other side of that game last night the cowboys they looked they looked pretty good uh defense looks excellent their their line on offense at least is like we talked about moving people they can move people on that offensive line i personally so i i'm a self-avowed dallas hater I grew up in Washington, have to hate Dallas.

Speaker 2 A lot of people out there hate Dallas. A lot of people love Dallas.

Speaker 2 But I'm of the opinion that it's better for the Dallas haters if they continue to play better and better and better and the expectations get really, really high, and then they don't meet expectations at the end.

Speaker 2 But right now, what I'm seeing from them actually makes me scared that Dallas is going to be a very, very good football team this year and they're going to be able to compete later on.

Speaker 2 I know they said, you know, let's play again to the 49ers.

Speaker 2 I'm afraid that the Dallas Cowboys are a legitimately great football team right now. So what do you see from the Cowboys that makes them great?

Speaker 2 And then what do you think is the one thing that could be a liability for them?

Speaker 8 Well, I don't think they're a great team.

Speaker 8 I think, Dak, the Cowboys look like that classic high school basketball team that when they play that game in that little small gym and it's packed and they're just running and dunking and fast breaking, they look unbeatable.

Speaker 8 And then you put them on a big NBA court out there and they're like, and they slow it down and they don't look like they could do anything.

Speaker 8 You know, like the 49ers just, you know, fast break them to death. Like, and they didn't have any answer for that.
You know, Arizona ran the ball for 220 yards against. Those things are issues.

Speaker 8 You know,

Speaker 8 losing Leighton Vander Ash, losing Trayvon Diggs, like those are bad losses. You know, you can only lose so many guys like that.

Speaker 8 I don't feel like Michael Gallup, I don't even know, like, they keep throwing it to him. He never catches it.

Speaker 8 there's no timing there like i i don't get that at all like cd's a legitimately great player no doubt like he's the toughest can be like a hell of a competitor he's good route runner like cd's the real thing sometimes they they they go away from him you know he doesn't get any targets i'm like he should be getting he should be like devontae adams or stephon diggs he should be getting 10 12

Speaker 8 puka nakua he should be getting 10 12 targets every game No doubt. So I feel like they go away from him sometimes.
And I just worry about Dak and big spots. Like we've seen it.

Speaker 8 Like he like, look, I played in Dallas. I understand there's Stahlbach and there's Aikman.
You're always going to be compared to those guys. And that's fair in Dallas.
But like, you have to play big.

Speaker 8 You've got to elevate the guys around you in big games against the 49ers, against the Eagles. It's not like the Rams, like the Chargers stink on defense.

Speaker 8 Like they're just, they just do things that bother you, you know, that just.

Speaker 8 make you just like shudder a little bit sometimes. But I feel like the Cowboys against opponents that are lesser than them, less talented, they can go put up a big number.

Speaker 8 But I got to see them against the Eagles. You know, see him against the better, the five or six good, really good teams in this league, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, it's a good point. All right, I have one last question, Baldi.
This has been great. We love having you on.
Give it up for Chicago.

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Speaker 1 Give us one guy that you're obsessed with this year in terms of freak when you pop on the tape.

Speaker 1 One guy you didn't, maybe wasn't your guy last year, but now whatever he's doing, could be a rookie, could be a vet. One guy.

Speaker 8 DeWan Jones. Okay.
Right tackle on the Cleveland Browns. You know, I nicknamed him, you know, he's got a nickname, Big Thanos.
I nicknamed him the Pacific Manta because like he literally,

Speaker 8 when he was playing Pittsburgh and TJ Watt, like he had a play where his left hand was in Pittsburgh and his right hand was in Cleveland. Like it's just like his wingspan is seven foot five inches.

Speaker 8 Like, you know, it's, it's a freak. And he's 380 pounds and he can move and he's got this swagger.
You know, he's got that big man swagger. You know, like, nothing bothers him.
TJ Watt beats him.

Speaker 8 Okay. TJ Watt beats everybody.
Didn't bother him at all. Nick Bosa, he shut Nick out.
You know, like, Nick didn't get nothing off him.

Speaker 8 You know, like, he's going up against the last two defensive players of the year. Like, he just acted like it was, you know, Ohio State against, you know, Indiana.
Like, no big deal.

Speaker 8 I love watching the kid play, though.

Speaker 1 I love him. Pacific plays.
Like, they want to give me a big fan.

Speaker 8 They want to give me a Dewan Jones jersey. I'm like the official

Speaker 8 fan club guy right now, but I love watching them play. All right.

Speaker 2 Great answer. Any other great nicknames you come up with?

Speaker 8 Yeah. I just, I just named Jameson Williams the comic.
Yeah. Yeah.
I like that.

Speaker 8 Like he's like, he's a comic. And then,

Speaker 8 you know, obviously,

Speaker 8 you know, Max Crosby is the condor. You know, he loves it.
All his clothing lines, all the condor. So, yeah, I mean, sometimes you just see things, you know.

Speaker 8 go to Baker and just name the Cobra the way he strikes. You know, there's things just, you sit there, you got to entertain yourself.
You're in a film room by yourself 15 hours a day.

Speaker 8 You got to do something to entertain yourself.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we were talking the last time you were on about how much football you watch. And we do think that you watch more football than anybody else in the world.

Speaker 8 I believe that. Yeah.
I don't think anybody does more. I like my girlfriend, she knows, like she learned.

Speaker 8 She didn't understand it. She gets it now.
I'm like, look, Monday and Tuesday, don't even call me. Like, I'm not taking your call.
I like you and I like to be with you, but I'm not taking your call.

Speaker 8 Like, I start at six. And if I can make it till 9, 9.30, I'll go home and watch halftime of the Monday night game.
But Mondays and Tuesdays, it's 15, 16 hours.

Speaker 8 I want to try to get through every game because I feel like if you're an analyst, you should at least analyze something.

Speaker 8 I'm not going to read the box score like until you watch Miami and their motions and shifts and all this stuff, you'll never understand why

Speaker 8 they're as good as they are right now.

Speaker 8 You know, if you don't watch the Chicago Bears, like they'll, they'll make you throw something at the TV for sure. Like, like, just burn down Hallis Hall, you know, like start all over.

Speaker 8 But, like, you have to watch it. Otherwise, I don't know how you're supposed to know this stuff.

Speaker 2 Would you say you've watched every play of every game for the last 10 years? Not every play.

Speaker 8 I haven't watched every play, but I've watched every game. I've watched every game played so far.
Sometimes I'll just skip through it real fast.

Speaker 8 And then sometimes I'll do a breakdown on a player like this, Alex Anzalone. you know, against Tampa was all over the field.
You have to break him down. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Have to put something out there. You have to, huh? Yeah.

Speaker 1 When you see it, you're like, I got to stop everything and break this down.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 8 So it takes a little time to get it done. And then, you know, things don't upload on Twitter now for whatever reason.
And like, you know, you're like, mother, you know,

Speaker 8 you know, you know, you're ready to blow yourself up here.

Speaker 8 Like, I'm literally sitting here and entertain myself. I figure if I entertain myself, the people watching, the players, coaches.
fans, whatever, they're being entertained.

Speaker 1 That's a fact. That's a fact.

Speaker 2 You watch all the tape. When you're not watching tape, you're working out with Lane Johnson in a barn somewhere.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And then you got, you know,

Speaker 2 date night on Fridays. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 Perfect. Yeah.
I was out there.

Speaker 8 So on Saturday, last Saturday, I have a house in Port Lauderdale. So I have a, you know, a big paddle board, you know.
So I take my paddle board out because it's a perfect day on Saturday morning.

Speaker 8 And I was able to paddle, swim, and dive all together, like at this one reef off the coast. So I just paddled out, you know, jumped in.

Speaker 8 threw my mask on, started swimming with, you know, some nurse sharks or whatever.

Speaker 1 So it was like, it was just a, like it was a, a day where i was thinking a little bit about the jets and the eagles when i was under the water at the same time i was like my head was on a swimming because if these bull sharks come like i'm getting out of the water i love it i love it well baldy you're the best we'll have you back on later on this year because we love talking ball with you

Speaker 1 yeah thanks so much and we'll talk soon all right you bet man all the best

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Speaker 1 Okay, it's time for one question with the quarterback, and we got a great quarterback this week, the undefeated North Carolina Tar Heels. It is Drake May

Speaker 1 playing some great ball.

Speaker 1 Before we started this, this isn't a question. I said, you've been balling out.
He said, we've been balling out, which I love. I love.
Team guys. So one question with the quarterback.

Speaker 1 we all get one question we're actually gonna start with jake because i like his question the most and then and then pft and i will ask a question we have memes and max here as well jake take it away hey dre jake marsh part of my take podcast thanks for joining us today given that your team rocks the coolest color in sports how many straight days do you think you have worn carolina blue

Speaker 13 that's a good question jake yeah um golly

Speaker 13 There was a time, you know, point in time, especially in high school, kind of when you're committed somewhere, you like to wear your colors kind of in high school, kind of around.

Speaker 13 Um, but probably in college, just you know, probably going to class or you know, wearing either fall camp, probably that time between fall camp and the start of school, I think probably a month of probably at least something Carolina Blue wears Jays on or or sweatpants or a shirt like this.

Speaker 13 So, yep, I try to keep it on, try to rep the school. And, you know, as well as Carolina Blue or Navy, um, but you know, it's it's the best color in the country, and you know, it's hard

Speaker 1 not to rock it. It is the best color in the country.
I have a theory that

Speaker 1 at least 20% of the students at North Carolina picked it solely because of the colors, because it is that good of a color. Like,

Speaker 1 if I had to pick a school again, I maybe would do North Carolina just so I could rock the colors. Okay, good question, Jake.

Speaker 1 My question, my one question with the quarterback, Circle of Trust, there's a trust tree here.

Speaker 1 Have you at least peaked? Every now and then, maybe even go on private mode on your phone.

Speaker 1 Have you at least peeked at some mock drafts? Just take a look. Just you know, you don't get, we don't read our press clippings, but have you just

Speaker 1 like peeked and been like, oh, okay, that's interesting?

Speaker 13 Oh, you know, sometimes you'll get tagged in them, um, and they pop up on your feed a little bit. Sometimes it's weird.
You know, I got ESPN notifications, and sometimes I'll see my name in them.

Speaker 13 It's just weird, you know, seeing that, you know, growing up, you know, seeing ESPN alerts and just, you know, seeing following somebody a big time and then now in that point of view, but you know, you come across them, but you know, I really try to stay out of that and just focus on ball.

Speaker 1 Okay. All this stuff will will work.
Great.

Speaker 1 Great answer. Good answer.
That's a great answer because

Speaker 1 I would literally just spend all day doing mock drafts if I were you. That's probably the difference between me and you.
Okay, PFT, your question.

Speaker 14 Yeah, I've got it. I think it's a pretty easy one, but maybe one that we don't know the answer to.

Speaker 15 What is a tar heel?

Speaker 13 Yeah, a tar heel, it goes back kind of to the kind of the history.

Speaker 13 It has to do with something with the war and how something they put tar on their heels kind of to represent kind of grit.

Speaker 13 And I think we use a ram as our mascot, but really it's about it goes back to kind of the war. It's probably bad that I don't really know the exact story, but no, it has something to do with

Speaker 13 kind of some type of war and being kind of just being dogs and being gritty.

Speaker 13 And sometimes we also get that white cheese kind of stereotype, but you know, I think we've kind of gone to show, you know, our football program this year, we're bringing it.

Speaker 1 That was so, yeah, I lied.

Speaker 14 I lied because I know what a tar heel is.

Speaker 15 So maybe this could be like a teachable moment for us here. So back in the day, North Carolina, they exported a lot of like pine tar, and that was what they used to build ships with.

Speaker 14 And they called all the people that worked in the pine tar industry, they called them tar heels, kind of like as an insult to be like, oh, you work this like gritty lower class job.

Speaker 14 But then they took it back and they're like, yeah, damn right. We're proud.
We're tar heels. And then during the war, they called themselves tar heels because they like wouldn't move.

Speaker 14 um you couldn't move them off their line but it started out just being like okay we're gonna take that word back tar heel is a good thing now.

Speaker 2 There you go.

Speaker 1 I was pretty close. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 I was going to say, Drake, that was a phenomenal answer. As a guy who bullshits for a living and doesn't know a lot of things, is very dumb, like generally dumb.

Speaker 1 I can tell right away when you didn't know the answer, but you did a really good job of half answering it. Like, I give you an A-plus.
You could be a podcaster because you just did our job.

Speaker 2 They are the best at it.

Speaker 13 I try to, but no, I think

Speaker 13 I do something with the war and kind of being tough and standing and not retreating. I know I have to do something with that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you hit a couple buzzwords. That's perfect.
All right, Max, your one question with a quarterback.

Speaker 6 Hi, Drake. This is Max, producer here.
We like to do this with all of our guests where we just say a bunch of random cities.

Speaker 6 And then at the end, I'm going to ask you what your favorite is of these cities.

Speaker 6 First would be Chicago. Great city.
We live here now. Great city.

Speaker 1 Boston,

Speaker 1 Denver.

Speaker 6 uh minnesota is an excellent city minneapolis

Speaker 6 we'll sick we'll stick with minnesota um or charlotte but like charlotte is also chicago

Speaker 6 yeah so out of those cities which one do you like the most

Speaker 13 obviously i'm from charlotte i'm a little biased there but you know really all of them you know any any of them i think i've been to chicago a few times I haven't been to Boston or Minnesota, but really all of them.

Speaker 13 I think they're all great cities, all great fan bases, and they all kind of have their own special thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Well, you've probably never been to Boston, but you've probably been to Foxborough before, right?

Speaker 15 Foxborough is kind of a destination stop. What do you think about Foxborough?

Speaker 13 Yeah, I mean, obviously, you know, they have some rich history and some awesome fans. So, you know, wherever, wherever.
So I know it's an awesome city.

Speaker 1 We just proved how dumb we are when Max just like, here's some lists of cities, Minnesota.

Speaker 1 Okay, memes, last question. Then Drake has a question for us.

Speaker 1 Hey, Drake.

Speaker 10 How far can you throw a football?

Speaker 1 Oh, good question.

Speaker 14 Good question.

Speaker 13 Oh, ooh. You know, it's different.

Speaker 13 I will say, when you're in a game and there's fans and you're pumped up and you got some adrenaline going, I mean, I think you asked a lot of other quarters, it has at least probably five to ten yards to your throw.

Speaker 13 So, probably, if I went out there and practiced, I could probably throw it probably 65, probably 60 few, but I'm sure in a game, you know, if I get wild up or Hail Mary or something, I can get 70 for sure.

Speaker 1 That's sick. That's awesome.

Speaker 14 That's amazing. Just, you know, I actually, I got a text here from Hank.

Speaker 15 This is Hank's one question, and he's not here.

Speaker 14 He wants to know, have you met Michael Jordan yet? I have.

Speaker 13 I have met him. I have met MJ.
Obviously, he's the GOAT. You know, he's my goat.
If you go to Carolina, I think you're wrong. If you don't, you know, think he's a goat.

Speaker 13 And obviously, y'all are in Chicago. So hopefully y'all think the same.
But yeah, I met him at a basketball game a couple of times.

Speaker 13 And then he has been football around football as a month, but I know he's busy. And he's a great dude.
And obviously,

Speaker 13 face of Jordan, face of North Carolina, I think he represents well.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
All right. So, Drake, do you have one question for us?

Speaker 13 Yeah, I kind of thought about it a little bit. You know, Jeremy kind kind of told me that we had one question.
So, yeah, it's for Big Cat, really.

Speaker 13 And awesome for the group, too. For Big Cat, when I was a freshman here, true freshman, obviously, Sam was here.
I think he went on Twitter. I think you ended up calling him Chubby at one point.

Speaker 1 If you remember that, I did.

Speaker 13 Just kind of your thought pressure behind your statement behind that and kind of how your relationship is with Sam. Obviously, he's one of my close friends.
He's one of my best friends.

Speaker 13 Have you kind of repaired the relationship and how's that going? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Great question. I have repaired the relationship.
He actually was one question with a quarterback like two weeks ago.

Speaker 1 Was he? Okay. Yeah.
We brought this up to him. I mean, he looked fat.
I don't know what you want me to say. His face looked fat in the picture.
He looked like it was, I think it was a training camp.

Speaker 1 Looked like he was kind of doing a little, I'm going to work myself into shape training camp.

Speaker 1 And yeah, he got me back because he was like, you're fat too. And I was like, I should have seen this coming.
I don't know why. Like, yes, you're right.

Speaker 1 Calling in, calling a Division I one quarterback who's going to the nfl fat yeah he's he can call me fat back but yeah we've we've we've hashed it out and did you see the picture i mean you agree with me his face looked fat nah i mean that's just kind of a stereotype he's got a kind of stock you building okay also the way he runs the ball i think it's pretty hard to bring down so he's got some

Speaker 13 he's he's strong you have to see him in the weight room he's different he's a different cat

Speaker 13 yeah that's yeah like also i know y'all just picked up golf who's the best golfer out of the group

Speaker 14 I beat Brooks Kepka one-on-one, so I mean, he hasn't won a major in like six months, so that's not that impressive, but yeah. But the answer is Jake, Jake is the best.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Jake's the best.

Speaker 1 By the way, you, uh, I like what you did there with Sam because I will sometimes do that where it's like, if you have a fat day, you're like, yeah, but you should see him in the weight room.

Speaker 1 Like, that's just strength. You got confused.
Fat can be confused for strength, but you got a great jaw. So you're, you, listen, I'm not going to come at you.
Also, there's a potential. I'll take it.

Speaker 1 I can take it on the scene. Yeah.
there's a potential you move to Charlotte that also looks like Chicago.

Speaker 1 So, all right. Well, Drake, thank you so much, man.
Best of luck. We're rooting for you.
Incredible season so far. Keep it rolling.

Speaker 1 And whenever our paths cross again, we'll have you on for an extended interview.

Speaker 13 Sounds good. Appreciate y'all.
Thanks for having me on. Yeah, go heels.

Speaker 16 Man, I'll tell you what. When you're hungry out there, you start acting like a rookie quarterback in his first game, making bad decisions, messing up the basics, being all out of sorts.

Speaker 16 That's where Snickers comes in, man. That thing is packed: roasted peanuts, nugget, caramel, milk, chocolate.
It's like the MVP of candy bars.

Speaker 16 And when you bite into it, boom, it sorts you out, gets your head back in the game of life, satisfying your hunger. Remember this: Snickers handles your hunger so you can handle everything else.

Speaker 16 Snickers satisfies, man.

Speaker 9 That's a winning play.

Speaker 1 Who's up, Hank?

Speaker 5 And just the regular Snicker bars are great as well.

Speaker 1 Uh, sup, fellas.

Speaker 5 I regularly travel for work and had a call that I needed to join while I was in a hotel. I decided to be efficient and killed two birds with one stone and joined a meeting while I was showering.

Speaker 5 About 30 seconds into the call, I realized that my camera was on in the 62-person meeting. Luckily, it was only the upper half of my body that was being shown.

Speaker 5 But just the host and myself were on camera. Boss emailed me on the side, and I now have a call set up with him on Thursday.
No chance I get fired for a simple jimbo, right?

Speaker 2 Were you tubing yourself? Wait, were you pulling or tubing?

Speaker 1 He was getting in the shower and taking the call.

Speaker 5 He was on the call in the shower.

Speaker 1 Are you guys phone in the shower, guys? No, like that's a I never understood that.

Speaker 2 That's like, no, that's like mixing baking powder and vinegar. You don't, nothing, nothing good can happen when your phone's in the shower.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Jake rips Apple Watch in the shower, which I still think is the most

Speaker 1 anti-Jakethetical thing of all.

Speaker 9 Remember a a few years ago I didn't know water mode existed so I accidentally texted you guys like random emojis because the water hit it but water mode saves that wait so wait what do you mean you apple watch in the shower

Speaker 9 like you can like voice text you do that while naked

Speaker 1 you've texted us while naked

Speaker 9 No, I don't think so, but I've texted people before. Like you can voice text back.

Speaker 2 And I want to need you to specify if you're ever texting us while naked. Add the eggplant emoji at the end so we know.

Speaker 1 Because look, listen, we're guys, okay? I've texted you guys many times while on the shitter. I've probably called you guys on the shitter.

Speaker 1 Fully naked in the shower is a totally different situation.

Speaker 1 I would never break that. That's guy code.
I would never text you guys fully naked. I'd at least have my socks on.

Speaker 2 I don't even think about guys when I'm naked.

Speaker 1 No, hell no. Well, football, I do think about football.

Speaker 5 Do you guys bring your phone into the bathroom while you shower?

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, because you take a shit first.

Speaker 2 Because you never leave your phone anywhere. Yeah, you take it.

Speaker 6 I use my phone when I take a bath.

Speaker 1 Oh, shut up. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 I want the grossest visual ever. The thing is,

Speaker 2 Max isn't wrong.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 2 I think it's more normal for Max to be...

Speaker 2 bringing his phone into the bath and and doing his handling his business and making calls and and business moves than it is for jake to be on his apple watch with just like his soggy little penis hanging down sending voice text to us.

Speaker 5 This is a testament to you guys, but I'll keep my

Speaker 5 phone in the bathroom, and there's a picture. I think this only group text or person contact that I have a picture set up with is the PMT group text.
There's a picture, like an avatar or whatever.

Speaker 5 And when I'm showering, if I get a text message, I can't, obviously, it's like my glass is foggy. I can't see who it is.

Speaker 5 But if I see the PMT picture pop up, I'll get out of the shower and check what's going on.

Speaker 1 Good man. Good man.
That's solid.

Speaker 5 I might have texted naked once or twice. Okay.
All right.

Speaker 1 Well, we should just listen. If we're going to text naked, let's just, let's put a disclaimer.
That's all we're asking. I think that's fair.

Speaker 1 A group, like if I text you guys naked, I will throw the eggplant in there.

Speaker 2 Eggplant, and then maybe the cherries, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's fair.

Speaker 5 All right. I goofed big time.

Speaker 5 I'm planning a New Year's trip with two different groups of friends. There's one girlfriend that the larger group secretly can't stand.

Speaker 5 And with both group chats having similar names, I talked trash about the girlfriend in the wrong chat and got exposed big time. How do I come back from this?

Speaker 2 Can you play it off like it was a joke? Like, do you have that relationship where it's like, ah, you know, like, I just, I call you bitch. You know, that's kind of the relationship we have.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. That's the, that's.
The only play, the only other play I have, and this is more speaking of my age, because like the older you get, you just kind of lose friends, and you're also not

Speaker 1 like, all right, I'll like, okay, that friendship's over. I think maybe that friendship's just over.

Speaker 1 Like, you don't like her.

Speaker 5 Yeah, you might as well just go twice as hard at that point.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. Just hit a bit.

Speaker 5 Hopefully, hopefully, you're friends

Speaker 5 with

Speaker 5 the boyfriend of the girlfriend, and it's not like you know, your girlfriend's friend. But you can just be like, dude, I obviously fucked that up, but I got to just be honest.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just be like, this is what it is it just is what it is i i bet if you take the road of yeah this is just how i feel um your honesty will actually make you closer with many people in that same group chat that are all thinking the exact same thing but never had the balls to say it yeah you can just act like you had the balls to say it but don't be don't be the guy the only problem with that is it like i agree with you pft that that definitely might bring you closer just don't then talk for everyone else because people will probably be like yeah she does suck but don't then say, Well, guess what?

Speaker 1 I talked to everyone and they all think she sucks. That would be a, then you'd be an asshole, yeah.
And like, don't go out of your way to bully her, you know, don't

Speaker 2 make it, don't make it a thing, but just having, having her know that you don't like her.

Speaker 2 And if you stand up to that, if you're like, if you stand behind that fact that, yeah, I don't, I don't care for this person, people in that group will be like, yeah, thank you for saying that.

Speaker 2 Thank you for speaking up.

Speaker 1 Yes. But yeah, just end the friendship.
It's fine. You'll get new friends.
And if you don't, who cares as well? Football's on.

Speaker 2 You know what sucks is pretending to really like if you're if you're in a group of friends with somebody that you don't like pretending to have to be great friends with them on these long trips.

Speaker 2 So you just kind of save yourself.

Speaker 1 Well, also, it's not like a secret. You have friends, you have friend groups, and then you have friends that like you wouldn't, you know,

Speaker 1 if you're not, you're not like spending a ton of like solo time with them, maybe it's not a secret. Let's just say they probably know.

Speaker 2 Or if you didn't want to stand behind it, you could just go get a new phone and then act like you had a new phone like a week ago and that somebody else got your old number and now they're texting a group chat.

Speaker 1 They hate the girlfriend. Check yourself into rehab.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Last one.

Speaker 2 Just say,

Speaker 2 I'm seeking therapy. And then that'll wipe everything away.

Speaker 5 Just

Speaker 5 emphasize your original text.

Speaker 5 I went to the Jets Eagles game at MetLife, MetLife, parked in the American Dream. This guy used no punctuation.
King.

Speaker 5 I went to the Jets Eagles game at MetLife, parked in the American Dream because I thought everyone was an idiot. Supposed to be a period here, but there's not.

Speaker 5 I'm just going to read it like he wrote it. I went to the Jets Eagles game at MetLife, parked in the American Dream because I thought everyone was an idiot.

Speaker 5 Didn't realize they closed the parking lot after the start of the game. So couldn't get my car on game night.
Had to take an Uber from the MetLife to Manhattan.

Speaker 5 Then on Monday, went to get my car, took the train, but didn't realize that they don't have trains in MetLife unless it's on game day. Had to Uber from Paramus to MetLife when I got to where my car

Speaker 1 had

Speaker 1 to go.

Speaker 5 There's just no punctuation.

Speaker 1 Don't make these faces, Jake.

Speaker 2 What about the words? Are the words right?

Speaker 5 When I got to where I parked, my car had been towed. This is what it says.
When I got to where I parked, my car had been towed, had to take an Uber to the tow place and pay massive tickets.

Speaker 5 Instead of paying $50, it cost me $400 and just tickets, hundreds, and Uber costs.

Speaker 1 Is this pretty good?

Speaker 5 There was not a

Speaker 5 pint of punctuation there.

Speaker 1 No car is worth what you went through.

Speaker 2 Just leave.

Speaker 2 Just let it go. There's nothing worse than having to take multiple different forms of transportation to pick up a car.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just say, report it stolen.

Speaker 1 Just like, move on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's. There's also like a pretty good chance this guy got so wasted that he just left.
He forgot that he parked his car in the regular parking lot and then got towed.

Speaker 1 Right?

Speaker 5 No, that's no, because you know the American Dream. That's such like a

Speaker 5 move to be like, oh, why aren't these guys just parking in the mall?

Speaker 1 Yeah. They probably clean up the tow truck companies.
Oh, they get everyone for that.

Speaker 2 They're the tiniest little signs there.

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 5 I mean, MetLife is the war, Like, just such a miserable

Speaker 5 experience to go to.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's not fun.

Speaker 5 Like, you can't get there, public transportation.

Speaker 5 It's a shit show to leave. It's super far away.
There's nothing close by.

Speaker 1 Well, the American Dream Mall is pretty sick. I used to take my kids there.
Oh, no. Have you ever been?

Speaker 5 No. Okay, that's what I thought.

Speaker 1 It's actually really sick. It's fucking huge.

Speaker 1 Dude, they have a ski hill. They have an aquarium.
They have everything in there.

Speaker 5 isn't it like failing in like a massive massive way they have to close it soon no that's what jersey jerry said

Speaker 1 that jersey jerry built it that's your source your source is jersey jerry well no i think i've read like a there was something there there's a water park in there and like headline to an article uh the helicopter a helicopter and one of the displays in the water park like fell down that was pretty badass

Speaker 1 Didn't hurt anyone, so we can say that. It's a really cool video.

Speaker 2 Weren't they going to build that stadium in Manhattan? Wasn't that like the original plan to build it at Hudson Yards?

Speaker 1 Yeah, something like that wouldn't make any sense, but it would have been cool.

Speaker 2 That would have sucked. It would have sucked for a lot of reasons.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 American Dream Mall suffered an eye-watering $245 million loss last year. Hey, maybe you're not sure.

Speaker 1 Jerry was right.

Speaker 5 Since it's opening just five months before the pandemic, the 3.5 million square foot mall

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, it opened right before the pandemic.

Speaker 1 Oh, Hank's reading again.

Speaker 2 This also might be one of those things where, like,

Speaker 2 every mall in the world is going out of business right now because nobody goes to malls anymore.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if they opened right before the pandemic, I'm sure it didn't go very well.

Speaker 2 I think you're looking to blame Jeff Bezos in the situation.

Speaker 1 You also, there's some

Speaker 5 stupid.

Speaker 5 This place is a dump and a failure.

Speaker 1 There's also stupid ass rules in that

Speaker 1 whatever county that is in New Jersey, you can't, there's no retail on Sundays. So the mall's open, but you can't go into like any of the stores.

Speaker 2 It's like Chick-fil-A?

Speaker 1 It's crazy.

Speaker 5 Yeah, there's 50% of it's unleased. They owe the lenders $1.7 billion in construction financing loans.

Speaker 5 I mean, they're fucked. This place is dumb.
See you later.

Speaker 2 I feel bad for kids, though, who don't get to have the simple pleasure of going out and just hanging around a mall for a weekend.

Speaker 1 Dude, I took my kids there all the time. It was so much fun.

Speaker 2 That's all you do when you're in seventh, eighth, ninth grade. You just go hang out at the mall, try to get chased by a rent-a-cop, smoke a cigarette outside, and have enough money to like

Speaker 5 spray some cologne.

Speaker 1 Panda Express, Orange Julius, Auntie Ann's. Just hit them all.

Speaker 1 Get the free samples. The best.
The best.

Speaker 1 Okay. Good show, boys.

Speaker 1 We'll see everyone on Friday for the Pix and preview. Should we do numbers?

Speaker 2 I'm going to go three.

Speaker 1 Also,

Speaker 1 we will be streaming on Thursday at 4:30 Central is the Phillies game. And then we're going to do Monday, or sorry, Thursday night football and the Astros Rangers.

Speaker 1 So we will be streaming Thursday for Marathon with Max on the stream.

Speaker 1 You went three?

Speaker 2 Yeah, and Hank's give me this look like what was that look?

Speaker 6 18.

Speaker 5 I picked three every single time for the last six months.

Speaker 2 You picked three because I was picking three because I I was stealing from memes.

Speaker 1 Hey, can you make sure the new lottery ball is ready to go next week when we're in the new studio?

Speaker 1 It would be a big boost to morale.

Speaker 1 Can I give you that?

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 1 That didn't sound like it's. I mean, the first episode we ever do in the new studio, it would be sick if we had a lottery ball machine.

Speaker 9 Fresh slate on the stats, too.

Speaker 1 Can you do that?

Speaker 1 You showed me a video of the lottery ball machine. It looked like it was being held hostage somewhere.
I don't know where it is. You know where it is.

Speaker 5 Right.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Where is it?

Speaker 1 It's been built. It's ready to go.
Where is it?

Speaker 6 We don't know if it's ready to go.

Speaker 1 I saw. No, I've seen it.
Hank showed me a video of it working.

Speaker 9 Of it going? Yes.

Speaker 1 Ooh, okay.

Speaker 2 But where is it? What's the deal here, Hank? Why are you being so coy?

Speaker 6 You have no idea where it is.

Speaker 5 No.

Speaker 1 It has to get wrapped.

Speaker 1 I'll work on it.

Speaker 5 Don't worry about it. There's still.

Speaker 1 Make this a priority. Put this in the Hank Lockwood priority list.

Speaker 5 All right. I'll get it.
Get

Speaker 1 everything else off your schedule, just this.

Speaker 1 Okay. So on Tuesday, if it's not there, it's your fault.

Speaker 1 Sure. Okay.
I like this.

Speaker 5 You'll be cursed. Actually, never mind.
No, go ahead.

Speaker 1 You get what? The first pick? No problem.

Speaker 5 Okay, sweet. All right, great.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 5 I'm going to go with my kicking number eight. Okay.

Speaker 1 Jake, would you go with 18? Max, 20?

Speaker 1 You're such an inadequate troll sometimes.

Speaker 1 63.

Speaker 1 What do you mean that work? Oh, Hater Hank is having a renaissance.

Speaker 2 No, this isn't even Hater Hank. This is Hank trying to lash out and flailing wildly.

Speaker 1 I, for one, have enjoyed Hater Hank. He's been a very nice ad to the show.

Speaker 5 I'm not a hater. Again, it's like

Speaker 5 trampoline Hank. Like, you come at me, I bounce back just as hard as you.
PFT tries to take my number.

Speaker 2 You took my number that I took from memes.

Speaker 5 Factor fiction, I've been saying three for like three months.

Speaker 2 Factor fiction, I've been saying three before you started to say fiction.

Speaker 2 Fiction. No, that's fact.
Fiction. You're fiction right now.

Speaker 1 Okay, we'll see everyone Friday.

Speaker 1 What number?

Speaker 2 It was 63. 63.

Speaker 2 Love you guys.

Speaker 2 Except for Hank.

Speaker 1 I don't know what I'm to say. I'm saying anyway.

Speaker 1 Today's a matter of day to find you shy away.

Speaker 1 I've been coming for your love, I've been coming for your love of me, love of me.

Speaker 1 Take

Speaker 1 on me,

Speaker 1 take

Speaker 1 me on

Speaker 1 I'm a doctor

Speaker 1 Be less the same

Speaker 1 I won't sentence But I'll be still a little way

Speaker 1 Further than life is okay Say after me

Speaker 1 It's the better to be safe It's the better to be safe It's all better to be safe It's all better to be safe to be saved.

Speaker 1 Take on me,

Speaker 1 take

Speaker 1 me up,

Speaker 1 I'll be your one without

Speaker 1 you.