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Today is Wednesday, October 18th.

And the Phillies are fucking good.

They just hit another solo home run, probably. Probably.
It's just that's what they do, and I was thinking that the other night when I was watching the Phillies game. It was like, they sure hit a lot of solo home runs, don't they? And I had no idea that tonight they set a postseason record.
They hit 13 straight solo home runs. They've hit 19 home runs.
In the last four games, they've hit 15 home runs. So the all-time record for homers in a playoff, it was the Tampa Bay Rays in 2020 with 34 home runs in those playoffs.
These Phillies are on pace to destroy that record. And it's unreal.
They have their leadoff hitter. Obviously, Schwarwarber is hitting a lot of dingers he's yamming a lot right now most most leadoff postseason home runs all time yeah and it just seems like they every time i look at the phillies play they've hit four home runs and they're up four zero it's it's insane they they all are just trading who's gonna get hot uh you know like last series schwarber didn't, he's hit what three in two games.
It feels like Cassianos, this is a first game in like weeks that he hasn't hit two home runs. Bryce Harper trades on all these guys.
It's crazy. They are so goddamn good.
The bank is electric. It's undefeated right now.
And then the other stories, the Rangers are also very, very good. It's been a fun postseason playoffs I know that the Astros are never dead and you know what no I'm not going to say the Diamondbacks are dead because they could still who knows go back to go back to Chase Field but it's looking right now like Rangers Phillies and it's been so much fun like watching playoff baseball every night it's it's got me reinvated.
It's making me fall back in love with the sport.

There's nothing like October playoff baseball.

It's romantic.

It is.

And guess what?

The games go quick.

Yeah, it's nice.

I like the pitch clock.

Going back to the bank.

That's where the D-backs are going, to their bank.

Their bank has a pool in it, though, so it's a much less chill bank.

We should ask Max because, Max, I mean, you don't really have – you're not angry. There's nothing to be angry about.
I guess credit to you again because you were right about the Castellanos barrel up in game two against the Braves. He then went on an insane streak.
I guess you were also right to save all your energies and let the Eagles lose to the Jets so that you could you know be ready for these two games how are you feeling I mean they're you can't feel anything but elated right now yeah I mean right today was just taking care of business it's not even you're getting excited early in the game but now you're just you're just watching your boys get their reps in that's all that's all that was happening late in the game here. I mean, I'm fired up, but it's hard to be rah-rah

when you see the 10th run go.

Don't waste them.

You're wasting runs.

Yeah.

But this team doesn't – that doesn't exist.

Uh-oh.

Oh, yeah, it does.

They just keep hitting.

No, Max, it does.

It does exist.

You're wasting runs.

I guess – well, Big Cat, the good news is they're not really wasting runs

because all their home runs are solo shots. Yeah.
So they might be wasting homers. They're wasting rally killers.
Yeah. So that's a good thing.
How about you play some small ball, Max, get some guys on base, and then drive them in? I mean, the last inning, they had nine guys come to the plate. I know.
Or the sixth, or I don't know. Yeah.
It was a pretty good inning. They're just batting around.
And then, yeah, the Rangers. I was shocked to see them go and take two from the Astros and even like game two when the Rangers jumped out to a 4-0 lead.
I was like, oh, you know, the Astros are never there's one team that's never drawing dead. It's the Astros and they almost came back.
I feel like that series like the Astros can't get swept, right? That's just not the Astros.

No, it wouldn't happen.

It wouldn't happen.

It'd be a real shame.

Real shame.

A real shame.

It'd be a real shame if they got swept.

But no, they're not going to get swept.

Have you seen their lineup?

Yeah.

I mean, it's very good. Max, you have home advantage in the World Series against who?

Whomst?

The Astros, not the Rangers.

Oh, so you're already thinking about the World Series.

No, you asked a question.

Okay.

I answered a question.

Well, you had to have thought of that

if you knew the answer right off the top of your head.

Yeah, that's a fact.

I knew that answer before the series even started.

You got to be prepared for all situations.

There's still a lot of baseball to be played left.

You know, the series doesn't start

until a road team wins a game.

Yeah, good point.

Phillies took care of business at home.

That's true.

That's a fact.

So you – played left we you know the series doesn't start till a road team wins a game yeah good point phillies took care of business at home that's true that's a fact so so you you would rather play the rangers but you'd rather have home field advantage so which is it i you play who you play you know no but you can answer which team you'd rather play max i would rather play the rangers oh wow you're that scared the Astros. I guess you did get no hit by them.
There was zero hits in a game. I think.
That was not the bank, though, Big Cat. That was different.
That's true. Is there a chance that Kyle Schwarber might become, like, the most beloved athlete of all time if he plays for enough teams? Yeah, he's awesome.
It's rare that you have a guy. He left under different circumstances to each team you know I think he was a free agent when he left the Nationals and the Red Sox obviously the the Cubs just wouldn't pay him which was ridiculous even at the time but it was a situation where it's like how could you not love the guy and then he goes to Philly and he's beloved like I actually think that he he if he plays maybe he needs to go a couple west coast teams and it will just be like kyle schwarber might be able to run for president yeah or go play in japan like after his mlb career is over make them love him too he's impossible impossible to not like and i'm glad that we all got to share schwarber for a little bit yeah because we'll pass him him around.
When you experience Kyle Schwarber firsthand, there's nothing like it. Just the joy.
The joy watching that big boy step up there and just mash taters. And run.
I love watching him run. I'm sorry for interrupting.
But it's like it is so joyous to watch that man just trolley around the bases. He went first to third on a single today, and it's a joy.

He's got deceiving speed because he's slower than he looks.

Yeah.

We are sucking off the Phillies pretty hard here.

Max's brain just melted on that.

He's like, wait, do I have to fight Big Cat right now?

Well, I thought you were going to say he's faster than he looks, And I was like, yes, he is. No, he is.
That man can. He is faster than he looks.
Yeah, but it sounds like we're sucking off the Phillies because we are. Well, they're up too old.
And I do think that most people that are objectively watching these games are having fun watching the Phillies. Like they are, without a doubt, the funnest team in baseball right now.
And between Schwarber, the rest of the guys hitting taters and then Trey Turner slides are just incredible. I love watching that dude slide the way that he pops up from it.
It just, they're a fun team. That's the bottom line.
They're a fun team. I won't apologize for enjoying watching good baseball.
Yeah, it's fun. And the atmosphere is fun.
And I'm sure the Rangers will be, it'll be fun on Wednesday home up 2-0. I would like to nitpick one thing about the Phillies, though.
I broached this with Max earlier, but I was watching the celebration after they advanced against the Braves. If you're Bryce Harper and you don't drink, are you allowed to be pouring beer on people in celebration? I would be having a great time in the clubhouse, but you've got bryce harper mormon doesn't touch the stuff but he's pouring it all over me that doesn't feel right to me it's like when a guy with great lettuce uh wears a hat all the time it's like hey dude i i'm a drinker you're not a drink my my culture is not your costume he yeah he's the sober dude hitting on drunk chicks at the bar you know yeah okay i guess this is fine but it's kind of weird well no like drunk but not you know buzz chicks yeah yeah no i'm not i mean they're standing at the bar i'm not yeah max's brain went somewhere totally different well i just want to make sure that we're not saying any bad things about one of the greatest players ever played we're not and a great guy yeah i think he should have to he should should have to pour Mountain Dew on people.
Yeah, ginger ale maybe. That would piss people off so much if you just got Mountain Dews.
Club soda with a lime in it so no one can really tell. Yeah.
Max, you agree with me though, don't you? Yeah, I mean, it's a little weird. He talks about partying in the clubhouse after after the game but he doesn't talk about how he doesn't drink so it's it's it's a little bit strange it's probably he probably gets like a contact buzz you know like if you ever been in like if you ever partied in like a like college basement and like the fumes can get you drunk that's probably what's going on I think honestly, Bryce Harper probably like I could never do what Bryce does, which is hang around drunk people and have a great time if you're sober.
That's actually the worst. That's my idea of hell.
Yeah, you got to leave once they start getting drunk and they like want to have a conversation with you about life. Yeah, exactly.
A conversation that you would absolutely love to have if you had six cocktails in you. But when you're stone cold sober, no, thank you.
But yeah, bryce i'm not knocking bryce's sobriety i'm just saying it's weird that he's like dumping he doesn't understand why beer is cool and he's dumping it on people yeah um all right other things monday night football justin herbert debate rages on we talked to baldy about this a little bit but it is um he is maybe the most polarizing quarterback online. And it's very funny because it's the perfect like debate for our times where there's a camp that says he can do no wrong.
Then there's a camp that says he sucks. And the truth is probably somewhere in the middle, but on Monday night, he did suck.
Like he missed throws that would have won them the game and you expect Justin Herbert in what year four to make those throws

it was like all eyes Dak Prescott should just play Justin Herbert every week because he can't be the most talked about quarterback when Justin Herbert's playing in a primetime game. And it was like, there was moments in the game where it felt like Cowboys fans were pissed at Mike McCarthy

and wished they had Kellen Moore.

And then Chargers fans were like, please take Kellen Moore back.

He sucks.

It was like who can have a different opinion about Kellen Moore here

when the reality is he probably does suck,

but also the Cowboys' red zone offense sucks, so they badly want him back for that only that reason yeah the uh the charges offense looked pretty bad when herbert was not only just missing throws but he was also just going to the wrong guy he was trying to force throws yeah when he when he had easier options open see i think justin herbert is actually him and dak are not that dissimilar they

they both kind of are good enough to make you think that they could be great and then when they're not great you're like what the fuck this guy sucks he's not great well i've also i've thought way too much about justin herbert because i still think he's very good um i think justin Herbert's problem might be that he came in to the league very good and like polished and ready to go and he hasn't really gone like the next full level you know what i mean like he he's just always been very good and then has games where you're like what the hell's going on here yeah like it wasn't like back to what i was saying which is like because of the fact that he came in pretty good everyone's expectations went way up yeah they expected that every year would get significantly better and maybe he's just a pretty good quarterback probably better than pretty good i would take him like someone was like would you trade the number one pick for justin herbert in a fucking heartbeat i would yeah he's top 10 i think he's a top 10 quarterback right now and everyone has been expecting him for the last like three off seasons when you do your list your preseason list which i love so much like who are the top three quarterbacks going like justin herbert has found himself sneaking into that equation sometimes because of the expectation that people have dac has gotten over actually the pendulum might have swung now on Dak. We're pretty mean to him.
We're mean to him, but we're intentionally mean. It's like, yeah, Dak played well at times last night.
He still stinks. But he's gotten so much on the other side where he's gotten so much criticism that when he has a good game, people are like, oh, holy shit.
This is great. But the truth, like you said, is in the middle with both those guys i think and dak is probably at his at dak's peak he's not as good as justin herbert at his peak um but still like it's all about the expectation that he set for him with dak right now the expectation is that he throws like four interceptions a game so when he only has a couple interceptions this year we're like wow i guess dak is a great quarterback now and what do we say when he runs things happen like he started running a little more I know he's been scared to run ever since he broke his leg but when he runs in the offense or the defense gives him places to run he can unlock a lot more and looks he had a good game last night he played well I mean he didn't play like lights out the Dallas defense played very well but like he did enough to win the game I just it up.
So Justin Herbert in his rookie year started 15 games. He threw for 4,300 yards, 31 touchdowns, 10 interceptions.
That's phenomenal. And then his second year, he went 5,000 yards, 15, uh, 38 touchdowns, 15 interceptions played two more games.
So he basically has been in the, you know, same next year for, you know, over 4,000 yards, 4 000 yards 25 touchdowns 10 interceptions he just hasn't like i think that everyone expected after that rookie year that he's going to be a 50 touchdown like 13 14 win guy and that hasn't happened yet so everyone's like what the fuck's wrong with him like well he's always been very good he just maybe hasn't gone a full step above and that's what everyone's waiting for i think we just need to intentionally recalibrate our justin herbert expectations like officially right now justin herbert is basically kurt cousins in powder blue well he he made the biggest mistake you can make in life he was he he raised his own bar to a level that he didn't have another level that's why you always got a sandbag the first year you always got to suck the first year and then when you take the step up everyone's like holy shit look how good he is now he was panicking too at the end of the game he gave he gave off some Carson Wentz type vibes yeah at the end of yesterday's game it was so let's just say that that Justin Herbert is the perfectly average quarterback in thefl and then and we'll get to enjoy him when he plays well and we also um he is he he ha he is like on the chargers which is a cursed franchise and i do admit that so when people are like oh well his defense sucks or his offense i mean he has a shitload of talent around him but they are a cursed franchise he he essentially has just become he is phil rivers he's gonna be phil rivers he's gonna have his career which is a great career borderline hall of fame career maybe hall of fame career but it will always sit you you always sit there being like man shouldn't there be more that's essentially what he's gonna be yeah i i hope not i i really do because like when he plays well he's very very fun to watch but he did not play well on monday yeah he stunk and we also we got saved um well i guess the chargers saved mike mccarthy from himself because we're we're about to hit an all-time mike mccarthy end of game timeout situation last night where he at one point i think he burned a timeout with like i don't know 12 minutes left in the fourth quarter. And then there was another instance where they – oh, it was before halftime, right? No, yeah.
I was going to say the halftime, he – The halftime. They tried to give him a timeout.
He had two timeouts. He had two timeouts.
And he made him run the clock. Eight seconds left in the half.
And they tried to give Mike McCarthy a timeout with eight seconds left. And he called the ref over.
He's like, no, I didn't call that time that timeout yeah and then they just ticked it down to three seconds and kicked a field goal it like going with two timeouts I know that it was crazy it was crazy to be like hey two timeouts we have some time uh yeah you know what let's just settle for a field goal with two timeouts it the the ref Joe Buck even said it on the broadcast because they went to commercial and they're like I don't know what just happened to those five seconds because i thought we thought he called the time out at eight and then he told the ref to just run the clock for five more seconds yeah the ref came over he's like you want to time out now right and mike's like uh well no what can you even really do in five seconds no forget about that we'll just we'll just take the points him and brian dable end of half clock management um not good not good in the nfc east this week no um okay let's uh we have a lot of college football to talk and then we got hot seat cool throne baldy drake may um so let's kick it to ourselves back in studio and uh we'll get to all of that more football before we get to college football talk pardon my take is sponsored by better help did you ever feel like your brain is getting in its own way? Like you know what you should do, what's good for you, but you just can't do it? Well, therapy helps you figure out what's holding you back so you can work for yourself instead of against yourself. If you're thinking of starting therapy, give BetterHelp a try.
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What a weekend. We got a lot.
What a weekend. I washington huskies won the weekend incredible incredible game they look so for real michael penix jr is i still can't believe that he's the same guy that was in at indiana because he's awesome he's a legitimately great story too like tearing both acls yes coming back like that's gotta be so frustrating if you're a great college quarterback because he was very, very good his first year at Indiana.
Yes. When Indiana had a good, was that the COVID year? Yes, it didn't count.
He was very, very good. And then he just takes like two massive steps back.
But yeah, that was absolute scenes in Seattle this weekend. Insane, insane.
It made me a little sad that the Pac-12 is not going to exist anymore, although Washington and Oregon will get to play every year, depending on the Big Ten schedule. So two things.
One, first, Oregon. It feels like Oregon is just destined to lose this type of game every year.
Dan Lanning, great coach. A little confusing with some of his decision-making.
This game, it was funny because it was a high-scoring game. It could have been even more high-scoring because everyone just kept on getting stopped at the goal line.
I love the fact that he went for it at the end of the game to try to win the game. You're trying to win the game right there, fourth and three.
The time that I didn't love, and this is us being extra analytics guys, was the end of the first half when they pick off Michael Phoenix. They drive down.
There's four seconds left. They go for it on fourth and goal from the three.
We have learned because again, we are smart analytics guys. Part of the analytics of going for it on fourth down in the goal line is the fact that if you don't get it, you get to, you flip the field and it's tough for the other team.
You're most likely going to get a punt. Guess when that doesn't apply?

At the end of half.

Half time.

Take the three points.

There is, I'm not going to be the screaming,

oh, field goals, field goals, field goals,

but there definitely feels like there's an aversion to field goals.

We need to rebrand field goals.

Points still matter.

I know that you don't win games with field goals, but you can.

Yeah.

Kicks.

Kickers matter.

Points are.

The point is to score points. You want to go one step further with it.
Extra deep kicker analytics. If you want your kicker to make a field goal at the end of the game, get him in a rhythm.
Let him go out there, see one go through. That's a good point.
It does better for him if you trust him. Because kickers, we are weak-minded people.
We're very emotional. We're very fraught to being thought of as being not part of the football team.
Do you think he like oh he didn't trust me yeah this chip shot yeah so it's probably not true right but there's like there's probably something in a lot of kickers brains that are like let me go out there and get some points because i'm automatic i'll make it just send me out and where your coach doesn't send you out yeah you can do that internal calculus and you're gonna be like well he's doing this because of an analytical reason but also end of the day, you're like, maybe he just didn't trust me that I was going to make it. So let your kicker get in a rhythm.
But they lost by three. And it's like, I know you can't play the, you know, the game plays out differently if they kick a field goal there, but it's not the worst thing to get bonus points, especially after an interception where Michael Phoenix doesn't throw a lot of them.
That's point. That's's bonus points.
Take your three points. Just take your bonus points.
Be contented with them. I like the decision at the end of the game.
Yeah, I did too. Because he was playing also a double analytics game inside his own brain, which was you're doing too much time for Michael Penick.
Is it Penick's or Penick's? I keep hearing it both ways. I say both.
And I think that most people, when they say it on television,

they're just afraid that they'll say Penix.

Penix, yeah.

Penix, Penix. That's why they say Penix.

Penix.

I'm going to say Penix.

I like Penix.

Penix.

I love Penix.

Yeah, I do too.

Have you seen Baby Penix?

Are you talking about Baby Diggs?

No, Baby Penix.

Oh, Baby Diggs.

Different guy.

Yeah, yeah.

Also spectacular.

I like what he was doing, which was playing the too much time for Pennix, which will then actually leave too much time for Bo Nix at the end of the game. And he ended up being right about that decision.
That's not necessarily why they lost that game. They lost the game because Bo Nix didn't get the ball into the end zone or close enough on the final drive.
And that's why they lost. I'm fine.
They lost because their kicker sucks. I'm fine.
Well, yeah. yeah that was a 40 yarder 40 that is close enough you should make it that's that's a 40 yarder you should make and maybe if dan lanning had trusted their kicker to go for three points at the end of the first half he would have made that i i just i'm totally fine with trying to win the game right there especially with how good washington's offense is and speaking of washington's offense i've heard the analogy be made and I kind of like it uh they still have a lot of schedule left like they have a couple weeks where they should win easily Arizona State and Stanford but then they have to go on the road to USC they also have to go on the road to Oregon State second last weekend people are starting to say is wash are the Washington Huskies similar to the 2019 LSU Tigers in the fact that their offense is absolutely electric and their defense maybe is getting good enough.
Now, I think there were more pros on the LSU 2019 team, but I always love whenever we're like, hey, look, this has happened before. Maybe it's going to happen again.
It happened last year. I was guilty of this with the Tennessee Volunteers with their offense, but their offense, I feel like, I don't know.
I haven't looked at the numbers compared to the Huskies this year. But I feel like the Tennessee offense was better than this Washington Huskies offense.
I don't know. This Washington Huskies offense is insane.
They're both very, very good. And I learned a valuable lesson last year, which was don't compare anybody to the 2019 LSU team until they win a national championship.
It's fair. And then you can do the comparisons in retrospect.
Like, we never thought that we would compare any team to those USC teams with Reggie Bush, Lindale White, Matt Leinart, those guys. There have been a lot of great college offenses.
I'm going to wait until all the facts come out. What was the – How does that sound? I saw a stat.
I got to try to find it. I think it's Washington is averaging something like 8.7 yards per yards per play something ridiculous it's insane it's insane but yeah and this was a game that a lot of people had oregon winning because oregon's defense is better than washington's defense washington's defense played tough and like if they can round into form again i i'm i'm also so i agree with you don't ever compare i would say i saw it i saw people comparing it i'm not comparing it because it's still the pack 12 and they're still probably going to be some cannibalization of themselves like they're like what if you had to ask me what the most likely thing is washington catches a loss maybe two losses and then beats oregon in a rematch and then they all are out i feel like oregon state is going to be a very tough game for for uh washington yeah i feel like that's that's that's one that you can't sleep on at all but yeah i it'd also be interesting to go back and look and see how the bangles offense performed after the comparisons to the lsu 2019 team came out if like tennessee started getting all that clout and then joe burrow and jamar chase were like hey fuck that let's just remind them then they have an extra chip on the shoulder.
That's the thing. If you go just pros, there were probably – although Washington will have a couple first-round picks, a few first-round picks.
They have two insane wide receivers. They have a really good edge rusher.
I don't know. They're playing good ball.
It's fun. I like it.
It was very cool to see the Washington student section rush the field. There were probably like 25,000, 30,000 kids on the field at that game

after it was over.

It looked kind of scary.

And again, I'm always in favor of storming the field.

If you're in college, have fun.

Storm the field whenever you want.

Enjoy yourself.

But there's starting to be like natural consequences to storming the field.

Well, the kid who stormed the field at Notre Dame was a douchebag.

Deserved it.

Yes, that was a douchebag. He went up to Caleb Williams like, where's your finger paint now? Where's your finger paint now? I really do think that Caleb Williams, like every player, if a fan goes up to you and talks shit after a devastating loss, you have like a 10-second period where you can just open hand slap him.
Yeah. Not punch.
We're civilized. But I i think that that would actually if that just became a law and a rule because then fans would start acting accordingly and it would be sick if we just got to see a couple fans just get open hand slapped i i like the idea of an open hand slap my my idea was that you should be allowed to do anything that's legal during a football game to a fan that gets up in your face so you can tackle them yeah as as you don't go high no targeting the targeting rule still applies you could do targeting and then just get ejected that's true yeah you get post-game ejected from from being on the field but cale williams had he couldn't do anything there and the kid was just in his face yeah douchebag so it happened with an lsu player the other day too it's just a nature's healing moment when they shove those kids back yeah so if you go on the field just, you have to deal with the consequences of all your actions.
But yeah, it was cool to see Washington have a good time out there. If I'll say this right now, if a player in a power five conference, they, they rushed the field and a, and a player is provoked in the way that Caleb Williams was provoked and they open hand, slap the state, the, the fan, I will help if they get arrested.

I'll match.

Okay.

I'll match the guy.

So there it is.

Yeah.

But it has to be exactly the same situation.

It has to be a fan being a true douchebag to the player,

not just running by the player or anything like that.

You'll see every now and then where, like, a fan will be running

and a player will just start, like, elbowing.

That's not – it has to be a direct, you got in the player's face,

player slapped you, we are defending the player. Yeah, you're if you're a college student rushing the field don't ruin it for everybody right if too much of this stuff happens then they'll start to ban it and they'll they'll take it very seriously like most sec schools will gladly pay the hundred thousand dollars or whatever it is if it means they get a huge home upset it also made it worse knowing that notre dame kicked the shit out of usc so that kid was planning on saying that for a very long time if it was a spur of the moment last second play then i think it just becomes like hey everyone lost their mind but he was sitting there for the entire fourth quarter i mean usc got demolished caleb williams looked very mortal uh probably out of the heisman race i'd say definitely out of the heisman race which speaking of which, the Heisman is going to be a quarterback.
I think that's official. Brock Bowers out for four to six weeks, which I don't know.
I think he should probably just get ready for the draft. If I were him, I would.
He's already won two national titles. If I were him, I would absolutely.
The scary thing is... What are you looking at, Memes? Memes is a Georgia fan.
You don't like what we're saying? No. You don't like what we're saying? No're saying i think maybe sec championship game i would say don't rush coming back brock bowers as somebody with a tennessee and an alabama future um and a texas future i would say brock bowers needs to do the right thing for his future his own future and not rush back let's let's take it slow we don't want to have any any blips where you go into the combine and you're still a little bit nicked up so just take it easy take it easy brock i believe in you brock is probably the best prospect uh at the tight end position since gronk i would imagine um and he's won two national titles one two and i'm sure that they've got two or three guys behind him that can step in and not be brockers, but probably be better than 99% of all other college tight ends.

Yes.

So yeah, Brock, please.

It's for your own good.

This is about me.

It's not about my money.

For your own good, just kind of chill out for a little bit.

Why is Max wearing a tank top?

Oh, that's sweat.

Put the camera on, Max.

Show the sweat.

Show the sweat.

It's not sweat.

It's got hot in here.

No, show the sweat.

I put a t-shirt on. Okay.
You looked like Matt Ryan the other day up in the booth. It's fucking hot as dick over here.
It's hot as dick. Yeah, so it's going to be a quarterback winning the Heisman.
It's going to either be Michael Penix. Converting Penix, by the way.
Penix. Maybe Jaden Daniels.
Maybe Jordan Travis. Maybe J.J.
McCarthy, because Michigan hasn't played anyone yet, yet but he has played good ball but yeah it feels like we can maybe even Dylan Gabriel if the Sooners don't lose or I mean Quinn Ewers if he just gets on fire real quick he's got the name and being at Texas would certainly help but yeah this is an awesome college football season. It because there was there was some kind of i don't know what it was there was some uh congressional hearing basically the worst people alive uh have opinions you see what joe manchin said oh we have a couple so i'll read a couple yeah it's they're so stupid uh first lindsey graham said utah is offering everybody on the team a new truck there's no end to this between the portal and n college football is in absolute chaos.
That's a guy who doesn't watch college football. It's been an awesome season, and the kids getting paid is not a bad thing.
And then Joe Manchin said, it's hard to root for the kids when they're multimillionaires as freshmen and sophomores. No, it's not.
I would like to hear Joe Manchin explain why. Right.
Why, in his opinion, is it hard for him to root for kids who are making money? Also- Because if you unpack that to a deep enough level, he is just completely in the wrong about everything. They're 18 years old.
They have a job. They generate millions of dollars.
As a guy from West Virginia, there are a lot of coaches that are from West Virginia that would probably not like hearing a senator from West Virginia say that I'm thinking about Nick Saban in Alabama if you're a guy from West Virginia you should probably not be giving away your state's home prides like competitive advantage not only that but it's always so weird to me and not to get to political but like a lot of these guys who are making these statements i would assume are are hardcore capitalists we have a a product that makes a ton of money and kids that are exceptional at what they do why shouldn't they make money they're not if if it was every kid goes to college and is a millionaire yeah that would probably be an issue. They do things that no one else can do.
Another way to say what Joe Manchin just said is. But so can the other student athletes that don't make money.
Well, because they don't have a product that makes a ton of money. Like eyeballs watch football.
Stadiums are packed. People are buying the product.
I get it. Yeah, I would love for some of the other athletes to get al deals which i think they are but their sports don't make the same amount of money they generate revenue it is true true capitalism if you bring in a lot of money you get to you get paid a lot of money but what i would like to hear joe manchin explain is uh because this is the crux of his argument he enjoys watching college football when players are poor yeah when they don't have any money yeah why why why is there anything anything in life where you're like you know what i really i i um i like the person that cuts my hair my barber's great i just wish he had a little bit less money to spend it's it i wish he couldn't take care of his.
It's just these guys telling on themselves that they don't actually watch the sport. Yeah.
Cause it rules and college football is chaos. And I think, uh, Herbstreet even said it.
I love the NFL. Herbstreet loves the NFL.
What we saw at Washington, Oregon on Saturday doesn't happen in the NFL. No, like that just doesn't.
It's, and it's just, there's a difference in, in the fan bases and how people cheer for their team and the fans, the kids going on the field. That's a crazy scene that those kids will remember forever and Washington fans will remember forever.
It's crazy. They don't watch the sport.
Any politician who wants to talk about college football, we should, like Johnny Manziel, watch their iPad to see how much they're watching. If you don't watch more than five hours of college football on a Saturday, you don't get to have an opinion.
Zero hours. Zero.
Zero. That's how much they're watching.
Next time I'm eating a pizza, I'm going to be like, you know what? This pizza would taste so much better if the guy that made it couldn't afford daycare for his kids.

Yeah.

That would make me so happy.

Yeah, because then he really put everything into it.

Okay.

I got one other thing about the SEC in particular.

Yeah.

Because this is-

Because Alabama is definitely going to win the SEC.

It's a storyline that's bubbling up, and it bubbles up occasionally.

But I think we need to talk about it a little bit.

Jimbo Fisher and his buyout.

Yes, I'd like to talk about this.

He's got a looming buyout or a buyout that's out there. What is now like probably 80 90 million dollars to buy him out of his contract and um so much of Jimbo Fisher's buyout and whether or not they actually do end up buying him out of that because right now the offense sucks at Texas A&M Jimbo Fisher he should be he's being paid like he's the best offensive coach in the NCAAcaa and he's just not so much of whether or not the the boosters at a&m pony up for the buyout depends on what the price of oil is yeah worldwide because that's all oil money in college station they've got so many alumni so many boosters that are so heavily leveraged in what the oil market looks like.
And right now, the price of oil,

I actually reached out to our friend, Bunky Perkins,

who is in the oil business, oil and gas business.

So he's about as connected in this as anybody.

Right now, the price of oil is about $85, $86 a barrel,

which is pretty good.

They're making good money in College Station.

Once it gets up to like 100,

that's when they have literal fuck you money.

That's when the oil kings start to get crazy and do all the shit that they would prefer not to be reported on for but i'm setting a price target right now i'm setting a personal price target if oil reaches 95 dollars a barrel then i predict that jimbo fisher will get bought out of his contract okay i like that and with like all the instability overseas who knows what happens with egypt with saudi arabia if they get involved in uh in the war over there then oil is going to go like through the so in a in a weird way like that directly affects whether or not jimbo fisher is stinking rich without a job or if he's still getting paid and doing a poor job coaching. Yeah.
So Texas A&M to me, most delusional fan base in college football, craziest fan base because of all the yell leaders. Every time a yell leader video comes out, it's like, what the fuck? Why do they keep putting these out? And I know that you should aspire to be great.
So I'm not saying that you shouldn't. But Texas A&M and Jimbo Fisher is getting paid a of money why is it that texas a&m thinks that they are a perennial 10 11 win team joint football he did it once dude i know but i know but that i know the since 2000 how many times has texas and won 10 games or more two once johnny football mcgee didn't do it no once i they are a good football program they're a nine win team they're an eight win team jimbo fisher last year was a disaster i agree with that if you want to say hey five and seven is unacceptable totally agree but jimbo fisher has gone nine and four eight and five nine and one eight and four like he has done what Texas A&M does.
They win eight, nine games. They don't win ten games.
Yeah. They don't.
I think it has something to do with the fact that they also claim four national championships before things counted. Do you remember they had to take down a bunch of conference championships from the side of Kyle Field that they put up when they first did the renovations on it? Yeah.
They had to take them down because they got bullied too hard

for claiming non-existent championships.

Yeah, when they were in the Southwest Conference in the early 90s,

they had a stretch where they won 10 games a year, like five years in a row.

But since then, since 1995, they have won over 10 games twice.

They won 10 games.

They won 11 games in 1998, and then Johnny Football.

It's just a very funny, like, to to i again you should aspire to be great but to pretend like texas a&m is like we deserve to be winning 10 games we should be winning 10 11 games that's just not what has happened in history it's more realistic to have done that in either the southwestern conference or in the big 12 right in the sec like SEC, like, you wanted this, and it's going to be way, way harder to do that year in, year out. Okay, two more things I want to talk about college football real quick.
One, that was a terrible Colorado loss. Yep.
29-0 at halftime. That Stanford wide receiver was El Manor.
I can't remember his name. What is his name? Ayo Manor.
Ayo Manor. Unbelievable second half.
Incredible second half. Colorado is probably going to miss a bowl now.
Doing the math. Colorado.
It's going to be close. Could probably miss a bowl now.
That was an inexcusable loss. Really, really bad.
So they are right now, I believe, what's their record? They're 3-3. Can we still go back to what we said at the start of the season? That if Deion Sanders has a four-game improvement, it'll be a miracle? Yeah, he did that.
Just slide the expectations. They play at UCLA.
They have Oregon State at home. Arizona at home, who Arizona's been playing really good ball.
At Washington State and at Utah. So they're going to have to win a road game or a ranked game.
Yeah, they have to win two more of those. So that's going to be very, very tough to do.
That could have been the ball. That could switch it right there.
That was a must win. Yeah, that was a must win for Deion.
And it was very bad. And then the other thing.
Okay. So Wisconsin lost to Iowa.
Mordecai got hurt. Sucks.
I've taken a very long-term approach with Luke Fickle, so I'm not going to freak out. It's more about the fact that even though they're a rival, I love this Iowa team so much because they make people so angry.
They're so bad. They are truly back to mad about Iowa.
Like people, if Iowa runs the table and they're 11 and one, people are going to be so, so angry about them playing in the Big Ten championship game. They are.
I have this guy puts out a great graph every week that essentially is like, how bad did you get beat? So it will be like, you know, this is the EPA or whatever it was, the opponent, and then how bad you got beat. Iowa multiple times this year has won games where they got beat, like in all the statistical categories.
And it's so funny because people get so mad about Iowa, and I love it so much. They're just so, so boring and so bad on offense, but they figure out a way to win and it's hilarious.
So the note I had about Iowa was that I am officially rooting for an 11-1 Iowa team who would probably be ranked. If Iowa goes 11-1 and they continue to win games in the same way that they've been winning, what do you think their end of the season ranking would be? Probably like 9 or 10? Yeah, well, it will be they'll get blown out in the Big Ten championship game.
So that's the thing. Well, I mean, they already got smoked by Penn State.
It'd be so funny if they didn't, though. Yeah, I guess.
Tough to beat a team twice. Well, not really when Penn State beat them, what, 31-0? I think Iowa even got like – I would confidently say they're going to get blown out in the Big Ten title game,

which actually makes it even funnier that people are mad about Iowa

because if you're someone who is mad about Iowa,

you know at the end of the road you have your satisfying judgment day.

Just be patient.

But people get so mad about Iowa.

I just love the fact that they're going to have one win on their schedule or excuse me, one loss on their schedule, and they're going to still be ranked in the 20s for a very long time. Yeah, it's the best.
It's very funny football to watch. And if you don't appreciate the ridiculousness that is Iowa football, then you're not a college football fan.
It's also like, yeah, okay, so you're mad about Iowa because they don't play offense. Well, guess what? They do defense and special teams elite.
That's two-thirds of the game. They've hacked the system.
Offense is irrelevant. You can just win games at the Big Ten West by just playing defense and special teams.
Yeah. It's like they remind me of the Giants from last year a little bit.
Yeah. The New York Giants.
I love watching Iowa football. And by watching it, I mean like having it on the second screen

and then continuing to look over at the

score and being like, oh, they're punting again and they're up

by three. Oh, they're punting again.
Now they're up

by seven and then they're just up by seven for the rest of

the game. Listen, they've released the ratings

for this weekend for all the

games played. Wisconsin

Iowa had like 2.4 million people watching

it. It was like eighth on the list.

There's a lot of sickos out there. Yeah, those are my people.
The over-under is 32 and a half this week. Against Minnesota.
I love that. That's going to be a great game.
Yeah, and you're a psycho if you take the over. Yeah, I might take the over just to fuck around, just to feel alive for a second.
Well, it's hilarious because if you take that over, you are actually not hoping for. You need a defensive or special teams.
Yeah, you need a punt block. You can't get that over without a defensive or special teams punt.
And you probably need two. Might need two.
You probably need two of them. At least one touchdown and at least a short field.
I'm going to stand up real quick for my James Madison Dukes because they are playing tomorrow night against Marshall. That's a Thursday night Sunbelt game.
Should be a good one. Very tough game for the Dukes.

By no means are we counting this as a win if you're a JMU fan,

but if they do win the scale,

the schedule does shake out pretty favorably for them for the rest of the

season and the Sunbelt where again,

they would not be eligible for the post season because of a dog shit rule.

But there's a chance that we could see a JMU team with like one loss or

maybe no losses by the end of the season. And they would not be invited to a bowl game and that is horseshit it's also it's the dumbest rule ever it's designed because they don't want a team to jump up to to FBS when they have a good roster and then jump right back down that's fine okay then punish the teams that go back down when they go back down take something away from them at that point but if you go up and you continue to compete they won the sunbelt last year they won their division the sunbelt even though it wasn't recognized and the sunbelt is probably the best group of five conference in football right now if they win that again and especially if they have one or zero losses it's it's such bullshit that you won't let the students the kids play in a game and you're punishing the institution as a whole.

When in reality, the biggest impact by far

is on the kids that won't get to play.

Yeah, no, it's dumb.

We had this discussion last year.

It's dumb.

It makes no sense.

And when you say you don't want to get ahead of yourself,

I've heard you many times in private say

that they're going to go undefeated.

No, I never said they're going to go undefeated.

You said to me yesterday, you're like,

if they're undefeated, can we invite them to the Arizona Bowl?

Wrong.

I said that.

Yeah, you did.

You absolutely said that.

And I said there's a lot of season left.

So this is a hard game. It's a very hard game on Thursday.
For people at home, he does not think they're going to lose. I think if we could get JMU football into the Barstool Sports Basketball Invitational, they could win.
Probably not. It's a great stack of teams.
We've got a top 10 team this year. Mississippi State's a good team.
Sister Jean? Probably not. But if it was in the Barstool Bowl, I could see them winning Barstool Bowl.
Wouldn't you want the winner of the Barstool Bowl this year to be declared national champions? Yeah. Think about it.
With JMU, you got the UCF possibility. So they are undefeated going to the Barstool, Arizona Bowl.
If they get there. This is a repeat of the conversation.
But you can't help but think. Allow me to be excited.
I'm so excited. No, listen.
They're a fun team, too. I think you should think this.
I just don't want you to delude the audience and be like, I'm not thinking they're going to go on it. You are thinking, which is great.
I want them to. I would love for you to make national championship shirts.
Here's the difference. I'm planning ahead.
Yeah, you, because we had the conversation multiple times the last couple days. I was like, wait, he definitely does think they're going to go on it.
I'm planning ahead a little bit. Fun fact, their quarterback, Jordan McLeod, Ray Ray McLeod's brother.
Oh, that is fun. So they're fun to watch.
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Henry. Mahatje's PFT.
Oh, why? It's not nice. It's been a few weeks.
A lot of time has passed. I've just noticed that body is as clean as ever.
What are you talking about, Hank? I'm talking about tattoos. Oh! Okay.

Well, how long?

It's been, what, a week and a half?

I was in New York for Surviving Barstool.

I was in New York for Surviving Barstool.

Then I was in Knoxville playing a concert with Pup Punk at Bojangles.

And now I'm back.

I just got back into town.

I'd like you to tell me when you think I should have gotten my tattoo, Hank.

Henry?

At some point. Yeah, I mean, we could have had someone come to the office in New York.
We've done that before. At a rock show is actually like the ultimate time.
That's true. Yeah, that's awesome.
Backstage at a Bojangles. Yeah.
Or you could get the Zach Martin or the Zach Wilson tattoo. Have you at least finalized what you're going to get? Because that will tell me what I need to know.
I have not finalized what I'm going to get. So you're right.
Hank's right. Hand up.
I've been slacking on that. But now I'm back in tattoo mode.
Just from this conversation? Yeah. Hank, welcome me up.
Thank you, Hank. I owe you one.
I will have my decision by Friday's show when I'm getting for my tattoo. That's a promise to you guys.
Can we wait to do it in the new office so that we can make a PMTB? Yeah, we should. During the Hank and Max live stream.
Oh, okay. Is that what you were saying, Hank? Yeah.
You forgot to do that. Yeah.
Oh, good point. Good point, Big Cat.
By the way, we have a date for baseball, so we're set. You were the one that wouldn't let us do it.
Oh, no. You wanted to do it.
Yeah. Well, we have to do it in the new office.
Right. But you also wanted to do it.
You wanted to get out of it. Max made a good point that I should wait until we're in the new office to do it.
Max, you're right. Which will be next week.
Next Wednesday. It's exciting.
Okay. Next Wednesday show will be the first of a new era.
Pardon my take. I might get a tramp stamp.
How about that? I'll have the answer by Friday. DM at pardon my take on Instagram or on Twitter, X.
If you are a tattoo artist in Chicago and you would like to work with us or if you know a good tattoo artist, DM that account, and then we'll find an account, and I will have my decision made by Friday. Then I will get the tattoo as soon as we get to the new office when Hank and Max do their live stream.
That reminded me. Oh, no.
What are you going to say? Hot seat me? The weddings a mistake it was a mistake okay I made a mistake credit to me for realizing in the moment that it was a mistake but I still said it discredit to me for still saying it the weddings was a mistake we got a million wedding invites and we will can that will not stop everyone that listens to the show when they're having a wedding. Oh, I remember them talking.

They're going to be playing their wedding.

Oh, I remember when they were talking about it.

They want to get invited.

We should invite them.

And we're not going.

I actually think that it would be it would be a terrible move for a guy to invite us to the wedding because your future wife is going to absolutely despise you for it.

Well, the future wife's a listener.

Yeah, there's female AWLs to the doctor is the mother. I just saw all the dms that i got with wedding invites it was from the groom and i was just thinking to myself like are you sure that she's totally cool no chance no chance that's been asked uh yeah i okay mistake mistake that was a big mistake we'll go to a divorce yeah we will we'll go We'll go to a second wedding.
Yeah. That actually would rock.
Second wedding is probably fun. Don't say that.
Why? Because it's still the same thing as a wedding. No.
Second weddings are way more fun, I think. Because they're all like, we've done it.
I've been to one, but it was only one of them. I'm saying it has to be second wedding for both of them.
Because then you know they probably like Buffett themed. Yeah, it's pretty low key.
Probably like, well, fuck it. We've made mistakes, but now this is for life.
Won't be. They'll get divorced again.
But we will go to a double second wedding. We're also going to go to a bachelor party.
What? Jake's when he gets married. Oh, Jake.
Congratulations. That would be very fun if Jake got engaged and then he hired us to plan his party for him.
And he was wildly uncomfortable with everything. Well, you guys will be invited.
Don't get me wrong. Thank you.
I appreciate that. I knew we'd be invited.
But my question was how quickly over under minutes or maybe it's hours, probably not hours, probably minutes. Would we have all of Jake's friends hate our guts? No, they love you guys.
For now. They would hate us.
They would hate us so fast. Why? Because we, like...
Peer pressure. Yeah.
Like, oh, you guys want to go, like, you know, play pickleball all afternoon? How about we just do drugs? Yeah, they're going to be listening to this and texting me and being like, we love them. I think Jake would actually leave the weekend hating us.
Yeah, I think that would be the end. Maybe we should do a bachelor party for Jake without Jake.
Oh, that sounds fun. And Jake's friends.
That sounds fun. Just Jake's friends and us.
Wish you were here. Yeah, too bad you couldn't make it.
Deal. There's going to be so much pickleball at your future.
No. Yeah, there will be.
Just like an hour to break a sweat. Oh, man.
If you had a bachelor party this weekend, where would you choose? Scottsdale. Pickleball, capital of the world.
Golf, pickleball, some fun, good weather. I like that.
Yeah. I'm in.
Jake, would you like it? if you let us plan it i would go okay because there

would be like i know you would be like the pickleball and then the big dinner on saturday

night i've said there's gotta be some negotiations dinner on saturday night is the worst part of

every bachelor party don't do it everyone gets drunk as fuck on saturday they have a great time

and it's like hey everyone take a shower put on a nice shirt we're gonna get sober real quick and

go to a dinner and then everyone sits there stuffs their face feels like shit can't go out

Thank you. They have a great time.
And it's like, hey, everyone, take a shower. Put on a nice shirt.
We're going to get sober real quick and go to a dinner. And then everyone sits there, stuffs their face, feels like shit, can't go out.
Yeah. I learned it many times.
Do the big dinner the first night. All right.
You're the veteran. So you got the ball.
Okay. I'm excited.
I would love to go to your bachelor party when it happens someday in the future. Yes.
Okay. And the cool thing is Pap Ev.
Yeah. Pandering Pap Ev.
Oh, wow. Coming in one with Philly.
Well, he got ejected Max. This is a little pandering, I think.
I mean, don't talk about your co-worker like that. You hate our co-workers? Yeah.
I love Pat Bev. You already hate our friends.
I love Pat Bev. He got kicked out of a Sixers game for fighting with Ben Simmons.
So what's wrong with that? Yeah, why is that pandering? Ben Simmons, bad guy. Pat Bev, good guy.
That was probably the most well-spoken Max has ever been in his life. I love Pat Bev.
All right, not pandering. Sorry.
It sounds personal to you here. Pandering is a bad word.
He's on the cool throne. Philly's going to love him.
But if it was pandering, he would wait until the regular season. First opportunity.
No one was watching. Yeah, this is like characters.
It was during the Phillies game. And it was during the Monday Night Football game.
Character is who you are when nobody's watching. Right.
Take it back. Literally nobody was watching this.
Sorry, Pat. Apology not accepted.
No. He's on the cool throne.
I put him on the fucking cool throne. I don't think Pat would accept that apology.
I put him on the cool throne. Apology not accepted.
The cool throne is a good place to be. On behalf of Pat.
Tax fishing. It is a good place to be.
You'd rather be on the cool throne than the hot seat. I guess.
Probably. Jake's on the cool throne.
He invited us to his bachelor party. Fact.
That's a permanent cool throne. You guys can come to mine, too.
I'm down. What? No, this is the face that you just made.
I was going to say. Yeah, I knew we were going to get married.
I could just see the thoughts right through your head right there. I would expect to be invited to yours.
How many days of golf are you going to play on yours, Hank? It's going to be a month. No, I'll be playing so much golf at that point that it'll be just partying.
We had an extended golf conversation today, PFT. That was, I won't say, but it was, we have an extended golf conversation.
Right now, Hank is planning on how to take a vacation from golf. Okay, now we have to say the debate was embraced, PFT.
We had an extended conversation today. You gotta say it all, though.

No, I'm gonna say it all. Hank is

essentially,

he's like, I'm gonna work so hard

in the winter, I'm gonna crew

so much golf time in the

summer that I'm basically not gonna work in the summer.

Again? He wants to take Mondays and

Fridays and Wednesdays off.

I didn't say, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wednesday's not set.
I was here. But you and Wednesdays off.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Wednesday's not set.

I was here.

But you said you'll be here Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday. I'll be here to record the show.
And I'm a non-traditionalist. I believe like everyone in corporate America listening to their job, they have 40 hour work weeks.
They work like 10 and then they have weekends and stuff. We don't have a job like that.
I do believe in a 40-hour work week schedule across a 50-week timeline. 40 hours a week, 50 weeks a year.
Give two weeks for Christmas, one week for July 4th. I don't think it matters when those 40 hours come.
But we don't work 40 hours. That's the thing.
I'd say we work like 60 to 80. I know.
And some of these weeks, we're going to be working 100 to 200. If that's even mathematically possible.
But the reason why we work so much is because our job is fun. I agree.
168 hours a week. All I said is that I'm going to work twice as hard as the winter so I don't have to work.
I can work twice as less in the summer. And then it all evens out.
Isn't this what you did? Like you said, you were going to work really hard September and October too?

Yeah, I haven't golfed at all.

I've barely golfed.

Barely golfed at all.

Nice catch.

Nice catch.

Nice catch.

A couple for work.

My point to him was in the football season, we have to work a lot because this football season in the off season is actually when we can start doing a lot more of the fun office stuff.

And Hank was like, well, what about golf? Well, we can start doing a lot more of the fun office stuff and Hank was like well what about golf we can do golf content that also was broached where it was like if I'm streaming in the golf simulator that's work I said yes yeah the moral of the story is like no one's gonna work no one in this room will be working harder than me this winter and then no one will be working than you in the summer. And that's how I think America should be.
That's the beauty of our country. No, actually, you're European.
You're on the European calendar. Yeah, that's true.
I mean, Europeans do it right. They take midday naps, siestas.
You're still on the high school calendar. Yeah.
He wants summer break. He works really hard September through early June.
Yeah. And then not at all over the summer.
Right. He wants summer break.
Yes. Yeah.
Where you work really hard. He works really hard September through like early June.
Yeah. And then not at all over the summer.
Right. You want summer break.
Yes. Yeah.
I actually don't disagree with that because that's like the most shocking thing about graduating from college. It's like, wait, I don't get summers off anymore.
This sucks. Yeah.
I'm more like we just spent a lot of money on this big office. I would like people to work in the summer.
And I will. On select days.
But you can golf in the office, Hank. It's not the same.
I know, but travel and stuff, it's like... Oh, this was travel trips.
Oh, I didn't realize that. So you're going to fly out on Thursday night and then come back Saturday night, like every weekend? No.
Sunday morning. Sunday morning.
But you said you wanted Mondays. Yeah.
So that would be like. Go back out.
That'd be local golf. That'd be local golf.
No, I also threw out the idea. I mean, Big Cat is just like whatever.
I also. I work.
I'm setting a tone. I threw out half days Friday, half days Monday.
He tried to kid shame me, too. He was like, I have golf.
You have kids. I was like, but I work my schedule.
Like, I go home for two hours, put my kids to bed. I'm back at the office whenever I need to be.
Same. Except for Mondays and Fridays in the summer.
Hank would be willing to leave for two hours at a time if you meant golf, right? Listen, this is not a conversation I thought we were going to have on the podcast. We were just, you know.
It was embracing debate. Yeah.
We actually found a very good. The story, though, is that I will be, when we're in this office and up and running, like, I will be there more than anyone.
And then the weather's going to get nice. I'm going to be like, damn, I work so hard.
I deserve some time off. And Big Cat's like, no, no, no, no, no.
Right. We have a podcast outside today.
Right. We actually found a good middle ground.
We said we're going to just take a wait and see approach. Yeah.
And that working hard in the winter doesn't equal getting to take the whole summer off so hank's got us over in everyone's mind hank is in a super strong negotiating position right now because we know that if hank's not happy that he'll come in and he'll be grumpy at work that's true and then we'd be like kick him out god damn i wish hank was out on the golf course instead of here bringing everybody down so we know we already know what you're up to preemptively. That's your move.
And this was part of it that Big Cat didn't really verbalize. It's like, I'm going to be working so hard this winter creating streaming golf content on the simulator that I'm going to have gotten so much better that I'm going to need to see how that replicates to the real game.

And the only reason that's happened is

because I worked so hard in the winter.

So when you're saying that you're going to work harder

than anybody in this office, you mean

you're actually going to be playing more golf than

anybody in the office this wintertime?

Streaming content for the fans.

Doing what? Golfing.

To make it crystal clear.

He's going to work so hard golfing this winter that he needs a break to golf this summer. Yep.
Is what you just said. Okay.
All right. Hot seat, cool throw on PFT.
My hot seat. We did come to a very good understanding.
I think we're in a good spot. It was a healthy debate that didn't get bad.
It was just. We'll circle back.
Yeah, we'll circle back. We'll put a pin in it.
Okay? We're going pin in this all right pft your hot seat cool okay my hot seat is uh the chargers social media account yeah chargers twitter uh this is actually it's unrelated to the woman that was on tv during monday football um jury's still out whether or not she's a plant or not she claims that she's not but there are pictures of her being a diehard Minnesota Vikings fan as well, allegedly.

And her claim is that she moved from Minnesota to L.A.

Now she's a diehard Chargers fan.

They're like the same team, though.

They actually kind of are.

They score a lot of points and disappoint.

Very disappointing.

I would say the Falcons.

Somebody that moved from Atlanta to L.A. and decided to become a Chargers fan.

If there's anybody out there like that, God bless you.

I don't know how you're still alive. But more specifically, I found this post.
Actually, Ken Jack found this post on Chargers Twitter. So it's from a guy named Chargers Truther.
And when I first saw this, I was like, this guy is ridiculous. But now I think there actually might be something to his point.
So he tweeted this out last week. This is going to upset some people.
But if I was running the Chargers Twitter account, I'd cut cut back on the social media stuff we're here to hit people in the face and be warriors not make jokes and be funny let's be serious i like that and then um somebody replied to him the social media has zero to do with drafting coaching and our play on the field our social media team is legit the best in the business and they're doing a great job attracting people who don't even watch football to be interested in their content chargers truth or responded it affects team culture yeah and now i think he might be right he's absolutely i think that the chargers twitter account is is too funny he's absolutely and it's resulted in actual on the field losses yeah no he's be serious this is culture matters football is a serious game yeah okay if you're asking guys hey is water wet water wet when they come off the field, that's going to break their brains, and they're going to be thinking about that in the second half of a playoff game against the Jacksonville Jaguars instead of how to run a competent defense and keep the Chargers on the field, and when the defense is on the field, not let Trevor Lawrence goose step all over you. Actually, I'm starting to think think that charges truther.
He might be true. He's right.
When you look at the best teams in the NFL over the last 20 years, Patriots, not great. Not like anything flashy on social media, right? They don't play those gimmicky games.
No. Steelers don't really do the gimmicky stuff.
Alabama football. Alabama football.
Nope. They don't engage in that.
Football serious. Yeah.
Not time for jokes. Yeah.
It's culture setter. So I actually think that charges truth might be right.
It affects team culture. Yeah.
Agreed. And then my cool throne is Terrell Owens.
So T.O. I saw this.
T.O. was playing pickup basketball.
I think this was yesterday. And he got into a fight while he was playing pickup and then after the game was over the guy he was playing against drove a car into his leg like drove a car onto the court and hit T.O.
in the knee and tried to run him over T.O. was fine didn't have to go to the hospital but I think I think if you're playing pickup basketball against T.O.
you're probably pretty sick of his shit by the end of it. Yes.
Because I would assume that he's just dunking on you constantly. I'd agree.
And reminding you that he's dunking on you constantly. I think you should be allowed to hit Terrell Owens in the knee with a car, not injuring him, but just like enough to bruise him and spook him a little bit.
Yeah. You should be allowed to do that to Terrell Owens.
I'd agree. Because you can't do anything on the court.
You can't D him up. Yeah.
He definitely pissing people off. But if he's fine, no harm, no foul.
Exactly. No blood, no foul.
John Thompson would back him up. He'd run him over and then back again over him.
And as long as he didn't have anything broken, not a foul. Yeah, I agree.
T.O. just dominating people and pick up basketball is very funny.
It's exactly what I would do if I was an athlete like him. I still think T.O.
could suit up. Yeah.
I think he'd get'd get in the league definitely um all right my hot seat is uh John Fisher that fucking scumbag from the A's Trevor May who was a relief pitcher for the A's this year he was on the Mets last year did a live stream twitch stream and he unloaded so he retired and then he unloaded on John Fisher great rant he said sell the team dude sell it uh let someone who actually like takes pride in the things they own own something there's actually people who give a shit about the game let them do it take mommy and daddy's money somewhere else dork a dork is always good if you're going to be a greedy fuck own it there's nothing weaker than being afraid of cameras do what you're going to do bro whatever you're a billionaire they exist you guys have all the power you shouldn't have any because you haven't earned any of it but anyway whatever yeah i like it i like it great retirement yeah probably the best retirement speech i've ever heard calling a guy calling a billionaire door actually i know that hurts him oh for sure i i agree with the fact that like John Fisher doesn't seem to take pride in owning the athletics at all.

He takes pride in refreshing his bank account.

It's like, oh, the number went up today.

And looking at parcels in Las Vegas.

That's what he loves.

He loves just being like, oh, the value of my franchise went up.

That's cool.

He doesn't care about what happens on the field.

Take mommy and daddy's money somewhere else.

Dork.

It would suck.

It would suck to play for an owner like that.

Yeah.

He's a piece of shit.

And a dork. And a dork.
My cool throne. Oh, Jake.
Oh, Jake. Getting a call.
Who's that phone? Who's my dad? Oh. You want to take it? No, it's all right.
Tell him what up. Tell him what up.
Will he be at the bachelor party? Yeah, his dad would. He has to be.
His dad's cool. I don't think so, right? He could.
Yeah, he could. Yeah.
Your mom could come too if she wanted. I didn't say it.
Yep. I was just being inclusive.
I invited his dad when I was mom. My cool throne is Julio Jones.
He's back. We got him out of retirement.
We asked the question a few weeks ago. Is he retired? We didn't know what happened to him.
He's on the Eagles. Max, Eagles, more loaded than ever.
Yeah, he got signed to the practice squad. I think he'll eventually get brought up.
He's not signing somewhere if he's not playing. I'm just saying.
Also, a great reminder that Julio Jones, his name's not Julio. Really? What is it? It's Quintoris Lopez Jones Jr.
That's right. Yeah.
Great name. Yep.
Great name. Max, dream team, though.

Big dream team vibes.

Oh, congrats.

Not dream team.

Oh, yeah.

This is the final piece.

What?

A 49-year-old receiver?

He's going to be a beast, but definitely not dream team.

Dream team.

No.

But he could be good.

So he's better than a wide receiver three right now.

Quez Watkins has been very bad.

So we've been looking for a wide receiver three.

Maybe he's the guy.

Also important to note that Larry Fitzgerald, I don't think, ever retired. I think he's just out there.
Yeah, I agree. He quite quit.
He was just like, you know what? I'm just not going to play this year or the next year. Yeah, I agree.
I agree. So Quintoris, dream team.
Dream team. Dream team.
Yeah. Congratulations to the Philadelphia Eagles for winning the Super Bowl.
Congrats, Max. By the way, you guys are the city of champs now.
Because we're doing this, because we're taping this in the afternoon, you heard us talk about game two to start the show and Monday Night Football. Max, prediction Max.
Merrill Kelly called out the bank.

I say 7-4 Phillies.

Okay.

This is a time stamp.

It is 4-49 on Tuesday afternoon.

7-4 Phillies. He did.

He poked the bank.

He did.

That's a rookie mistake.

Big time.

Also, you guys know we have a bank series?

Chase Field versus Citizens Bank Park. Oh.
Yeah, i wouldn't say chase field is the bank though doesn't have the word bank in it yeah it is a bank though it is a bank it is a bank yeah okay there's only one bank cash in there's only one bank cash in love it all right jake uh my hot seats the miami marlins the marlins once again a very stupid move they parted ways with uh their general manager kim ang who helped construct their first full season playoff team in 20 years and they wanted to bring in someone above her and she literally turned this franchise over and then they said we want to bring someone in she's like all right i'm to I'm going to pack my bags. Isn't this kind of the Marlins MO? It's ridiculous.
They get good players. They have some momentum.
And then the self-inflicted wounds just make them irrelevant again. Extremely misogynic by them.
Yes, agreed. I just don't understand.
I think I know why. So if you look back at the history of the Miami Marlins or the Florida Marlins, she did too good of a job getting good players.
Now the owner's like, wait, I'm going to have to pay these good players? I don't want to do that. You really fucked me over here.
I got to get a worse GM so I don't have to worry about paying out the luxury tax if it ever comes to that. Yeah, it just doesn't make sense that they've made the playoffs three full seasons in their history and they have momentum and then they do this and then you wonder why people care more about the dolphins in the heat well she is the only marlins gm ever to make the postseason not win a world series correct maybe that's why yeah so it's disappointing but we'll see what happens uh my cool thrones the olympics we have five sports that are officially olympic sports as of this week okay whoa baseball slash softball in lacrosse in we better walk us cricket in squash in and flag football oh in28.
And it's a home game because it's in Los Angeles. Oh, love that.
Is it in multiple cities? No, that's the World Cup. Yeah.
World Cup's going to be on multiple continents next time after the U.S. Yeah, U.S., Canada.
Not this one, but the one they just announced this week. It's multiple continents.
Which one is that? Where is that? I forget what year it is, but I think it's going to be in Europe, Africa, and South America. They're just getting as much money as possible.
I love how corrupt FIFA is. It's the best.
Flag football? They're going to be bigger favorites USA than basketball. I don't know.
Can our pros play? I think so, and it's in July. Can you imagine Tyree Kill playing flag football? Oh, that's going to be awesome.
It's going to be so awesome. It's going to be great to see what skill sets translate to flag football that don't translate to regular football.
Also, could retired guys in the NFL, they could play flag football. Brady could suit up.
Flag football. Tyreek Hill has already said that he wants to play.
Okay. All right.
Gold medal. Yes.
Easy. They have to win gold, right? Oh, yeah.
They don't. They're the biggest bust in the history of the world do you think embrace the bait do you think that there could be like a very small like woman gymnast that's super fast that could be a great flag football player could you cut yeah that's what i'm saying cut nfl players well if you're playing flag football maybe right there's one other person who also like jumping yet you're You're jumping up in the air.
Maybe. You can do like back flips and shit over the line.
Yeah, maybe. Don't have to worry about getting jacked up.
There's one other person who said they're in. Yes, and I'm curious of what your thoughts.
I saw it. It's Gronk.
Maybe too old. Yeah, that's...
No, he'd be good. No, flag football.
The whole reason Gronk is Gronk is like you can't bring him down if you can grab his flag he's fast uh for how many years four years 2028 LA yeah I don't think Gronk's not a guy that like quits football and gets fat though he would be he's been training he would be good for red zone targets yeah like Gronk is probably in better shape than like Gronk I'm assuming could could come back and play football tomorrow and yeah, fine shape. But I mean, Travis Kelsey, if it was flag football, would be so much better than Gronk.
No. Yeah, it's July 14th to 30th.
Kyle Pitts would be amazing in 2028. So the NFL schedule works well.
All right. We should go to it.
That'd be sick. Jamarcus Russell.
Maybe a wedding out there at the same time. Yeah, we should do it all.
Okay, was that your cool throw? That was my cool throw. Okay.
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Okay, we now welcome on one of our favorite recurring guests. It is Baldy, Brian Baldinger, the road dog himself we were just talking he's been

everywhere he's calling games every weekend you see him on tv uh first of all let's start there

how is the how's the first six weeks been for the road dog you've been everywhere yeah no it's been

great you know i was up uh at the at metlife stadium on sunday watching the jets take down

the eagles and you know i remember like minutes before like an hour before kickoff i'm talking to

Thank you. at MetLife Stadium on Sunday, watching the Jets take down the Eagles.
And, you know, I remember, like, minutes before, like, an hour before kickoff, I'm talking to Jeff Ulbricht, the defense coordinator of the Jets. And he just gives me this look, like, what would you do today, Baldy? Like, he's got no sauce.
He's got no JD. He's got no Echols.
He's taking corners off the practice squad. And I'm like, well, I wouldn't play zone all day and let Jalen cut you up.
So whatever he did, man, you know, it worked out like it was just one of those games where everything fell the right way. But that was a lot of fun because you got Jet fans and Eagle fans.
They're both boisterous. They're loud.
Nobody left the stadium. They came down to the final kicks.
It was awesome because like the week before is in New England and they stunk, you know, and there's the Saints and the Patriots. I'm like the Patriots could get the ball a hundred times.
They wouldn't score a hundred times. Like it was just that bad.
Yeah. But, you know, that's what you got to earn your money when the game is bad.
That's true. So, so let's talk about the Eagles Jets game real quick.
Would you say that Eagles fans should be even more appreciative of Lane Johnson because when he went out yeah you could see right away it was night and day that that the Eagles offensive line is not what we've seen the last couple years when he's not out there and the Jets were just able to feast on Jalen Hurts yeah well I mean look there's only one Lane Johnson. I mean, he's the best.
Like, the last sack he has given up was week 11 of 2020 against the Cleveland Browns. So, you know, he's actually texting me from the locker room, you know, just, you know, asking me how things are going.
I'm like, they miss you. You know, they miss you bad out there.
You know, but I just worked out over at his barn just like an hour ago. So he's doing fine.
He'll be ready for Miami. But, you know, like when you have elite players like that, like nothing against Jack Driscoll.
He's been in the system a long time, four years. And he's played good football.
But you're going up against Bryce Huff. You know, I call him the Bugatti.
Like he's just a rare sports car. You know, and Jermaine Johnson, like these freaks that the Jets have on the defensive line, like, it's just hard.
It's hard for anybody, you know? Yeah, and the Eagles have a pretty good defensive line, too. Jalen Carter, obviously, I would say defensive rookie of the year right now playing at that level.
Well, he didn't play last week. Right.
You know, so, like missed him last week. He's a freak though.
Like physically, when you see him, you go, that's like, he's as wide as a refrigerator. He's got a base that's just like redwood trees.
And then he's quick as a cat. Yeah.
And, and, you know, he's from Apopka, Florida. You know, the same town as Warren Sapp.
So Sapp's like, keep your eye on that kid, man. Like, he's, you know, like, he's got advanced skills, you know, for 21, 22 years old.
And the league is just discovering it because there's just rare when you find somebody, not at any position, that can just move big bodies. Like, he can just move big bodies out of the way.
Like, a lot of, you know, there's a lot of titty blocking going on in this league you know guys just running to each other nothing

happens yeah jaylen carter hits you like he rocks you yeah he's just he just hits people different

yeah he's violent and it seems like he's got he's got like veteran strength too like he doesn't look like i don't think he's had a welcome to the nfl moment i think he's given other guys like welcome to my rookie season moments. And he seems like he's built in a physical way where he's primed to just dominate the league for the next 10 years.
You want, you know, you kind of want to wait. You remember like, well, this is before your time.
And like, this came before you guys, but like there was a time on Monday night one year when the Cowboys played the Patriots and it was Randy White against John Hanna. And, like, everybody couldn't wait to see this matchup, you know, because you only got to see one game or two games a week.
But, like, I feel like when the Eagles play the Cowboys, like Zach Martin and Jalen Carter, we're going to find out. You know, like, that's just strength on strength.
Those kind of matchups, like the game in the game, that's going to be fun to win. Yeah, I love that.
I want to talk to you about another terrifying defensive player on the best defense in the league, the Cleveland Browns. They got Miles Garrett, and Miles Garrett has been playing out of his mind.
It almost seems like the game is, I don't want to say it's boring for him, but he's doing shit before the snap where he's just messing with the other team. You saw that against the Titans where he started going in motion and bringing two tight ends with him.
And they had to take a delay game penalty because they couldn't figure out how to block him correctly. And then he's like dribbling a fake basketball between his legs before the ball snapped.
He's just dominant to a level I haven't seen from a player in a very, very long time. But the Browns defense is more than just Myles Garrett.
So the question I had was had was besides miles garrett we all know is a game changer who is the most important player on that browns defense the defensive coordinator yeah jim schwartz yeah he's the most important guy they've had talent there in cleveland now it's it's elite right now because they got dalvin tomlinson zadarius smith you know they've got some dogs up front know, and they picked up this Okoronkwo from the Houston Texans, who's a good football player. You know, he's just in his fifth year as a young kid.
And then you get, like, Jeremiah Wuso-Koromoa. He's been there for three years.
Nobody even knew he was there. Now with Swartz, now he's, like, blitzing off the edge.
He's, like, he's attacking the line of scrimmage. Like, the 49ers didn't know what hit him.
They moved so much faster than the 49ers the other day. And then behind it, you get Martin Emerson and Denzel Ward and Greg Newsome and Greg Delpit.
Like you get these guys that, all right, you know what? 49ers haven't seen press man coverage, not the way we're going to play it. And we're going to press the line of scrimmage.
And then we're going to sticky man coverage and the quarterback hadn't seen that the receivers hadn't seen it shanahan hadn't seen it and they just you know they just dog pressed him right out of the stadium so so about jim schwartz is it scheme or is it attitude or is it a combo and which one is like you know because he is phenomenal as a defensive coordinator but to explain it to just a regular person what makes him different than all the other defensive coordinators right now? You know what? It's an awesome question. You know why? Because it is personality.
He's a cocky son of a bitch. He just is.
He was a mathematician at Georgetown. The guy's mind.
He doesn't look like it. He grew up in Cleveland, basically, with Belichick and that whole crew back there in the mid-'90s.
But, you know, he's a statistician, mathematician. So numbers, like he gets all that.
But then he lets you know that this scheme and what we're running, this is why we're doing it. This is what we're going to do.
This is how we're going to affect the game. And we're going to throw little wrinkles in week to week.
But we're going to come out there like cocky son of a bitch. Yeah.
That's how we're going to play. And it starts with him.
Yeah. Like he has that type of swag, you know.
And then, you know, like you were talking about Miles Garrett. You know, like Miles is different this year to me.
Like even when he lines up on a center and he looks like Allen Iverson just ready to cross over dribble on you. Like, if you're the center, you're terrified.
Like, he's going to make you look bad, period. And then, is he going right, left, or is he coming right through me? And I got to snap the ball.
Like, he was never put in that position before. Yeah, yeah.
You know, he's never done anything like that. So, you know, even like Sunday, like he did, you know, he was going up against Trent Williams.
It was just a classic contest, the best against the best. So it's not like he made these splash plays, but the defense as a whole was terrifying.
Yeah, and it is crazy watching the Browns play defense because they play with that edge. They put a little shit to them.
All right, so Baldy, I am a member of Tuanan, a proud member of Tuanan. I saw you breaking down in some of his film today.
People still say, oh, he's got Tyreek, he's got Jalen Wilder, he's got McDaniel. Anyone could be good in that.
What is Tua doing, because I know you disagree, to make this offense go? And when watching this offense, have you ever seen anything quite like it in the last, maybe since the Rams? No, I've never seen anything like it. It's not to say that they can't be defended.
You know, the Patriots did a good job against them. Buffalo did a good job against them.
It can be defended at times. A couple things.
One, I remember I went out to a medicamp in Miami this year. It was like, you know, it was one of those days where the heat index was through the roof and the wet ball.
You know, it's like one of these hot, humid days in June. So I go out there and they have a drill where literally Tua is doing nothing but bootleg fakes for 30 straight minutes, thrown at the Tyree.
Like one rep after another, him and Mike White. One to the right, one to the left.
So practice ends and I go, Tui, you think you got that bootleg fake down?

He goes, you know, I'm wondering the same thing.

I'm asking like when we're going to get to the next level of the playbook.

He goes, and the coach is like, when we get it right, when we get it.

So anyways, I watched that play fake against Carolina.

I just watched it before I came on with you guys.

Like the entire Panther defense goes with the fake to Mostert. And while that's going on, here comes Jalen Waddle and Tyreek Hill, the other direction.
And like, nobody even pays attention to him. And next thing you know, Waddle's doing his dance in the end zone.
Their play action fakes, the mechanics that Tua has, ball fakes, the subtle little, you know, blind, subtle little blind Magic Johnson passes that he has.

That stuff takes time.

And his mechanics, even when they said that he couldn't play and all this stuff,

you watch his mechanics two years ago when the Chiefs,

that guy can flat out play the game.

I don't care how tall he is.

I don't care how many injuries he's had.

That guy can play the game.

Tyreek has said it.

He's at the top of the leaderboard in every stat right now.

But for- I don't care how tall he is. I don't care how many injuries he's had.
That guy can play the game. Tyreek has said it.
People are, you know, he's at the top of the leaderboard in every stat right now. But forget about all that stuff.
Just watch him play. Like, he is, first of all, it's an entertaining sport.
Like, he's as entertaining a player right now. There's Mahomes.
There's Jalen Hurts. There's Lamar.
You've got to have an entertainer at that position. Otherwise, there's nothing to hold your interest.
and the dolphins do look awesome and we are we're dumb we're dumb fans we uh we watch what we watch and then we have our our pre-baked mindsets things that we've learned over years and years of watching football yeah and there's like this small little caveman part of our brains that says the dolphins are great but when the weather gets cold watch out i don't know if that offense is going to hold up also we're forgetting the fact that if cold weather does slow you down then it probably also slows down the other team a little bit too but um there is that caveman part of our brains that say these guys electric offense might not work in the playoffs so can you either confirm our our idiot brains or can you tell us that we're dumb as shit and explain to us why this could work in the playoffs well let's just say let's just say Miami has the best record yeah and it all goes through Miami and then they never have to go to Cleveland or to Buffalo or to Kansas City so that's that's you know if I was if I was Mike you know McDaniel and I had you know know, his bizarre brain of his, like I might say to my team, like, let's play for home field advantage. Let's have it all come through Miami.
And we never have to go to the cold weather. Maybe that would motivate Tyreek Hill and Jalen Warr, who look like, you know, put me in, you know, sprinter weather.
We'll just keep running by people. But if you have to go to one of those places just because, Kansas City, whatever, like I think speed travels, you know, like we, you know, the one thing about Mike is, you know, there's a reason why Kyle Shanahan wouldn't let him leave, you know, Houston, Cleveland, Atlanta, San Francisco, he wouldn't let him get out of the door.
Because that guy's eye for running backs is like, no, like Raheem Mostert was signed by the Eagles as a a free agent you know in 2015 he'd been to miami he'd been to all these things until mike found him and put him in san francisco changed the whole offense and you watch him last week carolina had nothing no idea how to tackle him his thing is speed and ability to run through contact, like a chain.

Like, these guys averaging – Devon Achain is averaging 12 yards a kick. Yeah.

As a running – like, it's sickening.

But, like, nobody can tackle the guy.

Yeah.

Like, he's looking for speed, vision, and just this toughness

that a lot of players just don't have.

Like, they just bounce off contact.

You know what I love seeing?

That's all my –

Yeah.

In that offense, he's starting to put Alec Ingold in motion. starting to put his blockers like his fullback in motion uh and then keep his running back stationary so that the fullback can have an even better angle and a running start on the block like we've seen it with receivers uh you know you send tyreek hill out in motion to the side and it's almost like he gets a head start on the play like it's the cfl But McDaniel's doing it with their lead blocker on plays.

And they're running... the side and it's almost like he gets a head start on the play like it's the cfl but but uh mcdaniel's doing it with their lead blocker on plays and it's their their running game is actually it's sexy to watch it reminds me the 49ers in that way where it's like i really love watching the miami dolphins run the football well so you know nobody runs more pre-snap motion than the miami dolphins Second is only San Francisco.
So every single play has a shift and a motion,

at least a shift and a motion. It could be more.
So if you think about, you're the defense, okay? You're, I don't know, you're Zach Cunningham this week from the Philadelphia Eagles, middle linebacker. And the Dolphins line up in a formation.
So you take a snapshot of that formation. Now here comes Engel from wide receiver to the fullback, eye formation.
Now you're Zach Cunningham. Now you see a different picture.
Now they're in eye formation. Now here comes Tyree Hill in motion.
And he might go in motion and come back and do an orbit motion, come back the other way. And now the Zach Cunningham is going for the third time now time now he's had to readjust his eyes so all they're trying to do is to get you to hesitate because that's all it takes with speed if you hesitate like denver like denver nobody played that bad a defense in this in this century in the nfl when they played denver but they were all frozen they honestly didn't they were just stuck they stuck.
They didn't know what to do. And next thing you know, these guys are buying.
Yeah. And so that's what this whole offense is predicated upon.
Like just getting you to hesitate, to freeze, to overthink, to go the wrong way, misdirection. Like it's, it's brilliant.
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Back to Baldi. All right, so another team I want to talk about, Lions.
I think Lions fans all know their team is good, but I also think that through years of history and torture, they're like, hey, is there a chance this could be fool's gold? I don't think so. I think Jared's been playing incredible football.
Their defense looks good. What do you see when you're watching the Lions and how they're able to adapt with injuries and keep winning these games? Well, I see great coaching.
I mean, you know, you think about it. Last year they were the worst defensive football.
Nobody was even close. And they were the 30th ranked run defensive football.
They're the number one ranked run defensive football right now.

Tampa Bay couldn't get two yards to carry last week.

Like, they play the game the right way.

They play tough, physical, with great fundamentals.

You freeze them on any play.

Their knees are bent.

They've got separation.

They're getting off blocks.

This Alex Anzalone, the middle linebacker, they call him Thor.

Like, he plays like Thor. Like, he's as good as any middle linebacker in football.
Roquan Smith, pick a guy in this business. Fred Warner, like, he's as good as anybody.
And then you just watch the talent level. You know, nobody knows who Jerry Jacobs is at right corner, but he tackles like a son of a bitch.
He's got three interceptions. Kirby Joseph, Aiden Hutchinson, you know, like Jack Campbell.
Like, they're talented on defense right now and they're playing like it and so and then last week you saw what Jamison Williams can do like that guy I nicknamed him the comet today he's a comet like they don't know like he runs right by he likes a streaking comet in the sky they ran right by Tampa and then look like Willie Mays tracking a ball center field. Yeah.
You know, he made a stop on a 18 yard stop route against Jamel Dean. Jamel Dean is still skidding off the field right now.
Trying to come and put his brakes on. Like he put a Jake break on Jamel Dean.
I was like, Oh my God, he's going to break ankles. This guy.
And he's just getting started. Yeah.
That's my favorite thing to talk about is like, okay, it's great to have a guy that goes zero to 60 faster than anybody, but it's almost better to have a guy that goes from 60 to zero faster than anybody. Stop and start.
Stop and start, yeah. Now, do you have a vote? Do you vote for MVP? Do you vote for Offensive Player of the Year? No, I don't do any of that.
Oh, you should. I don't really care about that stuff.
But you watch more tape than anybody. No, the point is, I'm frustrated by all that stuff because it's all regular season.
And to me, if you're the San Francisco 49ers or the Eagles, the regular season is important. Don't get me wrong.
Seeding is important. But to these teams, the only thing that's important is January football.
So I remember last year, I thought Max Crosby was the defensive player of the year, like, by early December. So I'm doing a game in San Francisco.
And it's in pregame warm-up. I'm down on the field, and Dick Bosa comes by.
And Nick gives me, like, a little shug on the shoulder. And he just whispers to me, so you think Max is the MVP.
I go, well, he plays every single step, Nick. Like, I see you, you know, you're going off the field.
He never comes off the field. He goes, yeah, well, I'm trying to win a championship though.
So his point was a good point. Like he's trying to play 20 games.
Max might play 17 games. So I understand the point, but the point is, my bigger point is, can we just play this thing all the way out and then award these players the trophies i agree because i feel like what you do in january is vitally important yeah or at least wait a couple weeks into the postseason yeah no it's true yeah it's true but but if you were if you were to have an mvp vote am i am i delusional to think that jerry goff is in the conversation right now no they're five and one he's playing great football the offense is dynamic the guy guy's toughest can be.
Like, you know, everybody thought he was this rental in Detroit, and they'll just use these resources to go find it. You're not going to find a better quarterback than Jared Goff.
Yeah. You know, first of all, he's at lockstep with a really talented offensive coordinator, Ben Johnson.
And so they really see the field the same way. He's got a stud rookie tight end in Laporta.
He's got a number one receiver and i'm on ross st brown he's got a bunch of running backs that get banged up but they just they just keep rolling along he's got an outstanding offensive line there's not many people in this world like penne sewell you know that could just like if there was a 18 wheeler truck with a flat tire he could move could move the truck off the highway just by himself. He's a playman triple A.
He's not going to play any better or go anywhere else like he is right now in Detroit. This might be the best team he's been on.
Yeah, I would say so. And he went to a Super Bowl, yeah.
I know. All right, so I'm at the point in the season, it happened earlier than I thought, that I don't even want to talk about the Bears anymore, but we were talking about it before we started.
So very quickly, is it Justin Fields or is it the offensive coordinator? I mean, I thought they were improving, honestly, until last week. So they played the Minnesota Vikings last weekend.
And if you watch 10 seconds of the Minnesota Vikings this year,

the defense coordinator, Brian Flores, lines up in a blitz zero look,

puts everybody in the defensive line.

They're either all coming or some are dropping

or they're just playing man coverage behind.

You see it every week.

It's what they do.

First play of the game, they line up in it, and Justin Fields gets sacked.

And they act like they were surprised by it. Right.
right i'm like did anybody watch one game of film the whole week to like the guy like here comes hunter smith right off the edge like he's up there for a reason and when i saw that i was like okay i'm not going to kill the bears because obviously there's something dysfunctional there to get beat on that play like that right away and then they put you know the kid Tyson Batchen in there you know look the kid was

playing Millersville College last year at this time for homecoming now he's running the Bears

offense and they got him in these empty sets against these blitz zero looks and I'm like

help the kid out yeah give it give it to the running back give it to the like let Cole

Komet take a snap like you're putting this kid that's a free agent in there like in this divisional

Oh,

Thank you. kid out yeah give it give it to the running back give it to the like let cold combat take a snap like you're putting this kid that's a free agent in there like in this divisional game like i was so frustrated all right good i just thought you know what let me just watch the right tackle i like yeah yeah good answer all right so that that was the bears talk that's all i needed to hear yeah yeah uh it does seem like they're they're doing justin fields a disservice like any anybody in that right now, you can't expect to excel with what's going on upstairs at that team.
What about the Bills? What about our beloved Buffalo Bills? They seem like the most schizophrenic team in the NFL where they just go out and they play stinkers. And then the next week they'll go out and they'll light up the scoreboard and their offense looks great.

And everybody's like, oh, the bills are fixed. And then the week after that will be like, what's wrong with the Buffalo Bills?

So I guess specifically from an offensive standpoint,

because the defense doesn't look too shabby,

but from an offensive standpoint, what do the bills need to fix?

Well, I don't know.

They're trying to run the ball better.

James Cook, you know, like they're just trying to run it better

with what they have. They've really addressed the offense line with two guards, you know, rookie guard, right guard, and, you know, free agent left.
And they got a lot bigger up front. They look like they can run the ball a little bit better.
There's just not a lot of timing to their offense. A lot of it is Josh being Josh, which is just a freak athlete.
and he runs around some weeks and like against Washington

and he can do whatever he wants to Stefan Diggs. And, you know, sometimes they fall in love with Stefan like they did last week early in the game.
And he was the only one getting the ball and nobody else has touched. I just feel like there's got to be some there's got to be some rhythm.
You can't just play freelance football all the time and just try to extend these plays. It looks fun on highlights when it works, but when it doesn't work, you're off the field pretty quick.
So I feel like there's got to be a little bit more timing to the offense. Dalton Kincaid is a really good player.
Dawson, the tight ends are good. I just feel like they've got to to figure this thing out where josh can still be josh he can still be this you know this guy that i'm not gonna say he's playing hero ball that's not what he does but sometimes i feel like that's what they they strive to do and yes it's difficult to defend but it also leads to mistakes and turnovers like it has like i just think they need to like to, like, get into more of a rhythm on offense right now.
Yeah, I can see that for sure. On timing.
Yeah, like going a nice long drive, put together some nice plays, let the offense get some confidence, and then that builds over and later in the game hearable. They get the offense confidence, but, like, they've lost Matt Milano.
They've lost Tredavious White. They lost one of their safeties for a while.
Like, they're losing.

They lost Greg Grusso.

They're losing good players, you know?

And so, you know, we've got to see about some of these young guys that are replacing them right now, how they hold up.

Like, you know, Kyrie Elam wasn't playing for a reason.

I mean, I know he was a first-round pick, but he got beaten out by a six-round pick from Villanova, you know?

And so now all these corners are forced to play, and, you know, none of them Tredavious White yeah so they had to replace really good players yeah um okay so we judge teams on their win loss which is stupid uh you obviously watched the tape tell us a team that maybe doesn't have the record right now but you're like they're playing good ball and they're we're I'm gonna expect something from them in in the second half of the season well I feel like if Seattle can get healthy yep they're a team that can make noise because they play you know Pete Carroll's a great coach he's just a great coach and from everything from a motivator to like he's got a vision of how to play the game like I feel like Seattle they've been playing rookies on the offensive line, and they've gotten beat up there, and, you know, they've got some growing pains on defense with some young guys. I feel like that's a team that could round out into form.
Like, I believe that they could make some noise. I would say right now that if you're not – like, Atlanta frustrates me.
Yes. Because I feel like if you could get Tom Brady away from some celebrity of function he's at right now and put him in a Falcon uniform, I feel like they could win a Super Bowl.
Yeah. Like the quarterback is just, it's too up and down.
They got, the talent is ridiculous. Like you see it, you know, whether it's Bijan or Pitts or London and what they have.
Like, they've got a solid offensive line. Like, they just – they shouldn't be losing these games right now.
Their defense is sound, and it's going to get better because they've got some young players. I feel like Atlanta, they might find their stride before this thing is going to happen.
I like that. Yeah, that's a good answer.
They do look tough on tough on defense they were playing my commanders last week and i just have one commander's question for you uh because we talk about him enough but uh what is going wrong with that defense because sam howell looks good at the quarterback position the offense looks okay at times i'd like to see him run the ball a little bit more if they can but um the offense doesn't seem to be the problem in D.C. this year.
It seems to be Jack Del Rio's defense, and they've got four of the best defensive linemen up front playing almost every down. And you'd expect a little bit more from that group and with the talent that they have.
So what is going wrong in D.C.? How do you fix it? Well, I mean, you've got four number one draft picks in the defensive line. That doesn't mean they're great players.
Like, they've got to play harder than what they play. You know, Chase has to play hard.
Like, he's got talent, but he's blockable, though. I see tight ends block him.
You know, he's got to play harder. They've got to, and I told Chase and Montez Sweat this a couple weeks ago before the Eagles game.
I said, you know, like, it's up to them to basically – the great defense is in this whole business right now. Like, there's none in Chicago.
Sorry about that. I mean, they're trying to play hard.
But, like, defenses are built around the defensive lines. The great defenses in football have game changers on the defensive line.
And they change the game. They hit the quarterback.
They hit the quarterback's arm, ball pops up. Like they chased the quarterback, like the jets did the other day to Jalen hurts.
Like put your resources in your defense line. But if you do that, make sure they're dogs, like get after and like, never stop hustling.
Like you watch this Jalen Carter. Now, like he's a dog, like the balls thrown, get down the field and go chase it, knock it loose.

They've got to do more up front than what they're doing right now. Yeah, I feel like Sweat has that effort.

Sweat doesn't give up.

Allen has that effort.

Payne has that effort.

Chase Young, once every three or four plays, he'll just stand you up,

stick an arm out, and not even try to get downfield and get blocked by a tight end,

like you said.

Chase, right now, he needs a better arsenal to attack an offensive tackle or protection than what he has. He doesn't have the power just to run people over the way some guys do in this business, but he hasn't developed a good enough arsenal to beat people.
And that's what you need. You need tackles out there going, what the hell is he going to do next? He's lighting up wide.
He's lighting up short. Like, I don't know what, you know, what you need you need tackles out there like going what the hell is he going to do next he's lighting up wide he's lighting up short like i don't know what you know like you need to keep those tackles guessing and then when this chip comes and the running back comes to help out like you got to defeat that yeah like max crosby defeats every block comes out like he's just a different adam but you know chase right now needs the other guys to make something happen.
And then he can use his athletic ability to run and chase and make something happen. But they're not doing enough up front right now.
Yeah. All right.
So the one of the most volatile debates online right now, this is why I love you, Baldy, because you watch the film, you give us a fair take. Justin Herbert, tell us what you see with Justin Herbert, because there are people who think he can do no wrong.
There are people that think he stinks. It's clearly somewhere in the middle.
And like last night was a perfect example where he misses a few throws that win that game and it's fair to criticize him even though he is a phenomenal quarterback. Well, he's a talent.
He's a talent. Like you watch Justin Herbert warm up and throw a football.
You're like, nobody looks better than that. The ball spins.
It comes out. It's like a tight spiral.
Like, he looks the part. But, you know, last night, they seriously had a game plan to go after Deron Bland with Keenan Allen.
And he double-moved him twice. And he was completely shook the corner.
He just got to make, like, he sailed both plays to him. Like, if you complete just one of those, maybe it's not a three-point game.
Maybe it's a charge or win. So, like, they can't run the ball.
Like, you know, Dallas played four safeties last night. You got to run a team out of four safeties.
You've got to make them put bigger people on the field.

They couldn't do it.

But I thought he missed two big shots there.

I thought the fourth and one where he rolled out,

he could have just taken off with it.

He's running more this year than he has in the past.

He's run for three touchdowns this year.

He didn't run for any last year.

I know he's got the bad, banged up finger on the left hand.

But I felt on fourth and one,

Mahomes is not

hesitating. He's just going to go get the first down.

I feel like that part of him

is missing. Immediately,

as soon as he saw Keenan Allen double on that

fourth and one rollout, just go.

Just go get the first. You're 6'6",

you're 240 pounds. Just go get the first

down. Yeah, that's a good answer.

What about the other side of that game last night? The Cowboys? They look pretty good. Defense looks excellent.
Their line on offense, at least, is like we talked about moving people. They can move people on that offensive line.
I personally, so I'm a self-avowed Dallas hater. I grew up in Washington, have to hate Dallas.
A lot of people out there hate Dallas. A lot of people love Dallas.
But I'm of the opinion that it's better for the Dallas haters if they continue to play better and better and better and the expectations get really, really high. And then they don't meet expectations at the end.
But right now, what I'm seeing from them actually makes me scared that Dallas is going to be a very, very good football team this year. And they're going to be able to compete later on.
I know they said, you know, let's play again to the 49ers. I'm afraid that the Dallas Cowboys are a legitimately great football team right now.
So what do you see from the Cowboys that makes them great? And then what do you think is the one thing that could be a liability for them? Well, I don't think you're a great team. I think, Dak, the Cowboys look like that classic high school basketball team that when they play that game in that little small gym and it's packed and they're just running and dunking and fast breaking, they look unbeatable.
And then you put them on a big NBA court out there and they're like, and they slow it down and they don't look like they could do anything. You know, like the 49ers just, you know, fast break to the death.

Like, and they didn't have any answer for that.

You know, Arizona ran the ball for 220 yards against him.

Those things are issues, you know.

Losing Leighton Van Der Esch, losing Trayvon Diggs,

like those are bad losses.

You know, you can only lose so many guys like that.

I don't feel like Michael Gallup, I don't even know even know like they keep throwing it to him he never catches it there's no timing there like i i don't get that at all like cd's a legitimately great player no doubt he's the toughest can be like a hell of a competitor he's good route runner like cd's the real thing sometimes they they go away from him you know he doesn't get any targets i'm. I'm like, he should be getting – he should be like Devontae Adams or Stephon Diggs.
He should be getting 10, 12. Puka Nakua, he should be getting 10, 12 targets every game.
No doubt. So I feel like they go away from him sometimes.
And I just worry about Dak in big spots. Like, we've seen it.
Like, look, I played in Dallas. I understand there's Staubach and there's Aitman.
You're always going to be compared to those guys. And that's fair in Dallas.
But, like, you have to play big. You've got to elevate the guys around you in big games against the 49ers, against the Eagles.
It's not like the Chargers stink on defense. Like, they just do things that boggles you.
You know, they just make you just you just like shudder a little bit sometimes. But I feel like the Cowboys against opponents that are lesser than them, less talented, they can go put up a big number.
But I got to see them against the Eagles, you know, see them against the better, the five or six good, really good teams in this league right now. Yeah.
Yeah. It's a good point.
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whatever he's doing could be a rookie could be a vet one guy the one jones okay right tackle the cleveland grounds you know i i nicknamed him you know he's got a nickname big fanos i nicknamed him the pacific manta because like he literally when he was playing pittsburgh, like, he had a play where his left hand was in Pittsburgh and his right hand was in Cleveland. Like, it's just, like, his wingspan is 7'5".
Jeez. Like, you know, it's a freak.
And he's 380 pounds and he can move. And he's got this swagger.
You know, he's got that big man swagger. You know, like, nothing bothers him.
T.J. Watt beats him.
Okay, T.J. Watt beats everybody.
Didn't bother him at all. Nick Bosa, he shut Nick out.
You know, like Nick didn't get nothing off him. You know, like he's going up against the last two defensive players of the year.
Like he just acted like it was, you know, Ohio State against, you know, Indiana. Like no big deal.
I love watching the kid play, though. I love give me a big set they want to give me a dewan jones jersey i'm like the official yes like fan club guy right now but i i love watching him play all right great answer any other great nicknames you come up with yeah i just uh i just named jameson williams the comic yeah yeah i like that one like he's like he's a comic and then um you know obviously uh you know max crosby is the condor.
You know, he loves it. All his clothing line is all the condor.
So, yeah, I mean, sometimes you just see things, you know. Buda Baker, just name the Cobra the way he strikes.
You know, things just – you sit there, you've got to entertain yourself. You're in a film room by yourself.
Yeah, yeah. 15 hours a day.
You've got to do something to entertain yourself. Yeah, we were talking last time you were on about how much football you watch.
And we do think that you watch more football than anybody else in the world. I believe that.
Yeah. I don't think anybody does more.
Like my girlfriend, she knows. She learned.
She didn't understand it. She gets it now.
I'm like, look, Monday and Tuesday, don't even recall. Like I'm not taking your call.
I like you. And I like to be with you.
But I'm not taking your call. Like I started six and if I can make it till nine, nine 30, I'll go home and watch halftime of the Monday night game.
But Mondays and Tuesdays, it's, it's 15, 16 hours. I want to try to get through every game.
Cause I feel like if you're an analyst, you should like at least analyze. Yeah.
I'm not going to read the box score. Like until you watch Miami and their emotions and shifts and all this stuff you'll never understand why they're as good as they are right right you know if you don't watch the chicago bears like don't don't make you throw something at the tv for sure like like just burn down hallas hall you know like start all over but like you have to watch it otherwise know how you're supposed to know this stuff.
So, would you say you've watched every play of every game for the last 10 years? Not every play. I haven't watched every play.
But I've watched every game. I've watched every game played so far.
Sometimes I'll just skip through it real fast. And then sometimes I'll do a breakdown on a player like this, Alex Anzalone, you know, against Tampa was all over the field.
You have to break him down. Yeah, Have to put something out.
Have to. Yeah.
When you see it, you're like, I got to stop everything and break this down. Yeah.
So it takes a little time to get it done. And then, you know, things don't upload on Twitter now for whatever reason.
And like, you know, you're like, you know, you know, you know, you're ready to blow yourself up here. Like I'm literally sitting here and entertain myself.
I figure if I entertain myself, the people watching, the players, coaches, fans, whatever, they're being entertained. That's a fact.
That's a fact. You watch all the tape.
When you're not watching tape, you're working out with Lane Johnson in a barn somewhere. Yeah.
And then you got, you know, date night on Fridays. Yeah.
Yeah. Perfect.
Yeah. I was out there.
So on Saturday, last Saturday, I have a house in Port Lauderdale. So I have a, you know, a big paddle board, you know? So I take my paddle board out because it's a perfect day on Saturday morning.
And I was able to paddle, swim, and dive all together. Like I had this one reef off the coast.
So I just paddled out, you know, jumped in, threw my mask on, started swimming with, you sharks or whatever. So it was like a day where I was thinking a little bit about the Jets and the Eagles when I was under the water.
At the same time, I was like, my head was on a swivel. Because if these bull sharks come, I'm getting out of the water.
I love it. I love it.
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Thanks for joining us today. Given that your team rocks the coolest color in sports, how many straight days do you think you have worn Carolina blue? That's a good question, Jake.
Golly. There was a time, you know, point in time, especially in high school, kind of when you're committed somewhere, you like to wear your colors kind of in high school, kind of around.
But probably in college, just, you know, probably going to class or, you know, wearing either fall camp, probably that time between fall camp and the start of school. I think probably a month of probably at least something Carolina blue wears J's on or or sweatpants or a shirt like this.
So I try to keep it on, try to rep the school. And, you know, as well as Carolina blue or Navy, but you know, it's the best color in the country and you know, it's hard to rock.
It is the best color in the country. I have a theory that at least 20% of the students at North Carolina picked it solely because of the colors, because it is that good of a color.
Like I, if I was, if I had to pick a school again again I maybe would do North Carolina just so I could rock the colors okay good question Jake uh my question my one question with the quarterback circle of trust there's a trust tree here uh have you at least peaked every now and then maybe even go on private mode on your phone um have you at least peaked at some mock drafts just take a look just you know you don't we don't read our press clippings but have you just like peaked and been like oh okay that's interesting oh you know sometimes you'll get tagged in them um and they pop up on your feed a little bit sometimes it's weird you know i got esp notifications and sometimes i'll see my name in them it's just weird you know seeing that you know growing up you know, growing up, you know, seeing ESPN alerts and just, you know, seeing following somebody big time now in that point of view. But, you know, you come across them, but, you know, I really try to stay out of that and just focus on ball and all this stuff.
Great, great answer. That's a great answer because I would literally just spend all day doing mock drafts if I were you.
That's probably the difference between me and you. pft your question yeah i've got i think it's a pretty easy one but maybe one that we don't know the answer to um what is a tar heel yeah tar heel um it goes back um kind of to the kind of the history um it has to do something with the war and how something they put tar on their heels kind of to represent kind of grit.
And I think we use a ram as our mascot, but really it's about it goes back to kind of the war. It's probably probably bad.
I don't really know the exact story, but I know it has something to do with kind of some type of war and being kind of just being dogs and being gritty. And sometimes we often get that wine and cheese kind of stereotype.
But I think we've kind of gone to show our football program this year.

We're bringing it.

That was fun.

So I lied.

I lied because I know what a Tar Heel is.

So maybe this could be like a teachable moment for us here.

So back in the day, North Carolina, they exported a lot of like pine tar.

And that was what they used to build ships with.

And they called all the people that worked in the pine tar industry,

they called them Tar Heels, kind of like as an insult to be like oh you work this like gritty lower class job but then they took it back and they're like yeah damn right we're proud we're tar heels and then during the war they called themselves tar heels because they they like wouldn't move um you couldn't move them off their line but it started out just being like okay we're gonna take that word back tar There you go. That was pretty close.
Yeah. That was exactly what I was going to say.
Drake, that was a phenomenal answer. As a guy who bullshits for a living and doesn't know a lot of things, is very dumb, like generally dumb.
I can tell right away when you didn't know the answer, but you did a really good job of half answering it. I give you an A+.
You could be a podcaster because you just did our job. They are the best at it.
I tried to, but no, I think I do something with the war and kind of being tough and standing and not retreating. I know I do something with that.
Yeah, you hit a couple buzzwords. That's perfect.
All right, Max, your one question with the quarterback. Hi, Drake.
This is Max, producer here.

We like to do this with all of our guests where we just say a bunch of random cities.

And then at the end, I'm going to ask you what your favorite is of these cities.

First would be Chicago.

Great city.

We live here now.

Great city.

Boston.

Denver.

Minnesota is an excellent city.

Minneapolis.

We'll stick with Minnesota.

Or Charlotte, but like Charlotte is also Chicago.

Yeah.

So out of those cities, which one do you like the most?

Obviously, I'm from Charlotte.

I'm a little biased there, but really all of them.

Any of them. I've been to Chicago a few few times i haven't been to boston or minnesota um but you know really all my thing they all great cities all great fan bases and they all kind of have their own special thing yeah well you've probably never been to boston but you've probably been to foxborough before right foxborough is kind of a destination stop what do you think about foxborough yeah i mean obviously you, they have some rich history and some awesome fans, so, you know, wherever wherever, so I know it's an awesome city.
We just proved how dumb we are when Max was like, here's some list of cities. Minnesota.
Okay, memes. Last question that Drake has a question for us.
Hey, Drake. How far can you throw a football? Good question.

It's

different. I will say, when you're

in a game and there's fans and

you're pumped up and you got some adrenaline going,

I think if you ask a lot of

other quarterbacks, it has at least probably 5 to 10 yards

to your throw. Probably if I went out there and

practiced, I could probably throw it

65, probably 60 few,

but I'm sure in a game, if I get wild up or Hail Mary or something, I could get 70 it probably 65, probably just 60 few, but I'm sure in a game,

you know, if I get wild up or hail Mary or something, I could get 70 for sure.

That's sick.

That's awesome.

That's amazing.

I would just, you know, I actually, I got a text here from Hank.

This is Hank's one question and he's not here.

He wants to know, have you met Michael Jordan yet?

I have.

I have met MJ.

Obviously, he's the GOAT.

You know, he's my GOAT.

If you go to Carolina, I think you're wrong.

If you don't, you know, think he's a GOAT. And obviously, y'all are in Chicago, so hopefully y'all think the same.
But yeah, he's my goat. If you go to Carolina, I think you're wrong.
If you don't think he's a goat, and obviously y'all are in Chicago,

so hopefully y'all think the same.

But, yeah, I met him at a basketball game a couple times,

and then he hasn't been in football around football as much,

but I know he's busy, and he's a great dude.

And, you know, obviously the face of Jordan, face of North Carolina,

I think he represents well.

Yeah, yeah.

All right, so, Drake, do you have one question for us?

Yeah, I kind of thought about it a little bit.

You know, Jeremy kind of told me that we had one question. So, yeah,'s for big cat really um and i'll ask one for the group too uh for big cat when i was a freshman here true freshman you know obviously sam was here and i think he went on twitter i think you end up calling him chubby at one point if you remember that it's kind of your thought process behind yeah your statement behind that and kind of how your relationship is with sam obviously he's one of the close my close friends he's one of my best friends um have you kind of repaired the relationship and how's that going yeah yeah great question um i have repaired the relationship he actually was one question with the quarterback like two weeks ago uh yeah we brought this up to him i mean he looked fat i don't know what you want me to say his face looked fat in the picture he looked like it was I think it was a training camp looked like he was kind of doing a little I'm gonna work myself into shape training camp um and yeah he got me back because he was like you're fat too and I was like I should have seen this coming I don't know why I like yes you're right in, calling a division one quarterback who's going to the NFL fat.

Yeah.

He's, he can call me fat back, but yeah, we've, we've, we've hashed it out.

Did you see the picture?

I mean, you agree with me.

His face looked fat.

Nah.

I mean, that's just kind of a stereotype.

He's got that kind of stocky building.

Okay.

Obviously the way he runs the ball, I think it's pretty hard to bring down.

So he's got some, he's, he's strong. You'll just see him in the weight room.
He's different. He's a different cat.
Yeah. Fat.
Yeah. That's – yeah.
Also, I know y'all just picked up golf. Who's the best golfer out of the group? I know y'all.
I beat Brooks Koepka one-on-one. So, I mean, he hasn't won a major in like six months, so that's not that impressive.
But, yeah. But the answer is Jake.
Jake is the best. Yeah, Jake's the best.
By the way, I like what you did there with Sam because I will sometimes do that where it's like if you have a fat day, you're like, yeah, but you see him in the weight room.

Like that's just strength.

You got confused.

Fat can be confused for strength.

But you got a great jaw.

So, listen, I'm not going to come at you.

Also, there's a potential you move to Charlotte

that also looks like Chicago.

So,

all right. Well, Drake, thank you so

much, man. Best of luck.
We're rooting for you.

Incredible season so far.

Keep it rolling. And whenever

our paths cross, again, we'll have you on for an extended

interview. Sounds good.
Appreciate y'all. Thanks for having me

on. Yeah, go Heels.

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About 30 seconds into the call, I realized that my camera was on in the 62-person meeting. Luckily, it was only the upper half of my body that was being shown.
But just the host and myself were on camera. Boss emailed me on the side, and I now have a call set up with him on Thursday.
no chance i get fired for a simple jimbo right were you tubing yourself wait you're pulling a tubing he was getting in the shower and taking the call he was on the call in the shower are you guys phone in the shower guys no like that's a i never understood that that's like no that's like mixing baking powder and vinegar you you don't, nothing good can happen when your phone's in the shower. Yeah.
Jake rips Apple Watch in the shower, which I still think is the most anti-Jake-thetical thing of all time. I remember a few years ago, I didn't know water mode existed, so I accidentally texted you guys like random emojis because the water hit it.
But water mode saves that. Wait, do you mean you apple watch in the shower like you can like voice text you do that while naked you've texted us while naked no i don't think so but i've texted people before like you can voice text back and i'm gonna need you to specify if you're ever texting us while naked add the eggplant emoji yeah because look listen i'm we're guys okay i've texted you guys many times while on the shitter

i've probably called you guys on the shitter in the fully naked in the in the shower is a totally

different situation i would never i would never break that that's that's guy code i would never

text you guys fully naked i'd at least have my on. I don't even think about guys when I'm naked.
No. Hell no.
Well, football, I do think about football. Do you guys bring your phone into the bathroom while you shower? Yeah, because you take a shit first.
Because you never leave your phone anywhere. Yeah.
I use my phone when I take a bath. Oh, shut up god the grossest visual ever the thing is max max isn't wrong like it's i think it's more normal for max to be bringing his phone into the bath and and doing his handling his business and making calls and and business moves than it is for jake to be on his apple watch with just like his soggy little penis hanging down, sending voice texts to us.
This is a testament to you guys, but I'll keep my phone in the bathroom. And there's a picture.
I think this only group text or person contact that I have a picture set up with is the PMT group text. There's a picture like avatar or whatever.
And when I'm showering, if I get a text message, I can't, obviously it's like my glass is foggy i can't see who it is but if i see the pmt picture pop up i'll get out of the shower and check what's going on man good man that's solid i might have texted naked once or twice okay all right well we should just listen if we're gonna text naked let's just let's put a disclaimer that's all we're asking i think. A group, like if I text you guys naked, I will throw the eggplant in there.

Eggplant and then maybe the cherries too. Yeah.
Yeah, that's fair. All right.
I goofed big time. I'm planning a New Year's trip with two different groups of friends.
There's one girlfriend that the larger group secretly can't stand. And with both group chats having having similar names i talked trash about the girlfriend in the wrong chat and got exposed big time how do i come back from this can you play it off like it was a joke like do you have that relationship where it's like oh you know like i just i call you a bitch you know that's kind of the relationship we have oh man that's the that's the only play the only other play i have and this is more speaking of my age because like the older you get you just kind of lose friends and you're also not like all right i'll like okay that friendship's over i think maybe that friendship's just over like you don't like her yeah you might as well just go twice as hard at that point right just hit up hopefully hopefully your friends with the with the uh boyfriend of the girlfriend and it's not like you know your girlfriend's friend but you can just be like dude i obviously fucked that up but i gotta just be honest yeah yeah just be like this is what it is.
It just is what it is. I bet if you take the road of, yeah, this is just how I feel.
Your honesty will actually make you closer with many people in that same group chat that are all thinking the exact same thing, but never had the balls to say it. You can just act like you had the balls to say it.
But don't be the guy. The only problem with that is a like i agree with you pft that that definitely might bring you closer just don't then talk for everyone else because people will probably be like yeah she does suck but don't then say well guess what i talked to everyone and they all think she sucks that would be a then you'd be an asshole yeah and like don't go out of your way to bully her you know don't don't make it a thing but just having having her know that you don't like her and if you stand up to that if you're like if you stand behind that fact that yeah i don't i don't care for this person people in that group will be like yeah thank you for saying that thank you for speaking up yes but yeah just send the end the friendship it's fine you'll get new friends and if you don't who cares as well football's on you know what sucks is pretending to really like if you're if you're in a group of friends with somebody that you don't like pretending to have to be great friends with them on these long trips so you just kind of saved yourself well and also it's not like a secret you have friends you have friend groups and then you have friends that like you wouldn't, you know, if you don't, you're not like spending a ton of like solo time with them.

Maybe it's not a secret.

Let's just say they probably know.

Or if you didn't want to stand behind it, you could just go get a new phone and then

act like you have a new phone like a week ago and that somebody else got your old number

and now they're texting the group chat.

They hate the girlfriend. Check yourself into rehab yeah okay last one just say i i'm uh i'm seeking therapy and then that'll that'll wipe everything away just yeah just emphasize your original text i went to the jets eagles game at metlife parked in the american dream sky use no punctuation king uh i went to the jets eagles game at metlife parked in the american dream because i thought everyone was an idiot supposed to be a period here but there's not i'm just gonna read it like he wrote it i went to the jets eagles game at metlife parked in the american dream because i thought everyone was an idiot didn didn't realize they closed the parking lot after the start of the game,

so couldn't get my car on game night.

Had to take an Uber from the MetLife to Manhattan.

Then on Monday, went to get my car, took the train,

but didn't realize that they don't have trains in MetLife unless it's on game day.

Had to Uber from Paramus to MetLife when I got to where my car had to go there's just no punctuation don't make these faces jake what about the words are the words right when i got to where i parked my car had been towed this is what it says when i got to where i parked my car had been towed had to to take an Uber to the tow place and pay massive tickets. Instead of paying $50, it cost me $400 and just tickets, hundreds in Uber costs.
Is this Brick McKenry? There was not a hint of punctuation there. No car is worth what you went through.
Just leave it. Sorry, just let it go? There's nothing worse than having to take multiple different forms of transportation to pick up a car.
Yeah. Just say, report it stolen.
Just move on. Yeah, there's also a pretty good chance this guy got so wasted that he just left.
He forgot that he parked his car in the regular parking lot and then got towed right no that's no because you know the the american dream that's

such like a move to pick oh why why aren't these guys just parking in the mall yeah they probably

clean up the tow truck companies oh they get everyone for that they're the tiniest little

signs there oh man i mean met life is the war like just such a miserable experience to go to

Thank you. for that they're the tiniest little signs there oh man i mean met life is the war like just such a miserable experience to go to yeah it's not fun like you can't get there public transportation it's a shit show to leave it's super far away there's nothing close by well the american dream mall is pretty sick i used to take my kids there oh no have no.
Have you ever been? No. Okay.
That's what I thought. It's actually really sick.
It's fucking huge. Do they have a ski hill? They have an aquarium.
They have everything in there. Isn't it like failing in like a massive, massive way? They have to close it soon? No, that's what Jersey Jerry said.
Jersey Jerry built it. That's your source.
Your source is Jersey Jerry. Well, well no i think i've read like a there was something there there's a water park in there and like headline to an article uh the helicopter a helicopter in one of the displays in the water park like fell down that was pretty badass didn't hurt anyone so we can say that it's a really cool video weren't they going to build that stadium in man in Manhattan? Wasn't that like the original plan to build it at Hudson Yards?

Yeah, something like that.

Wouldn't make any sense, but it would be cool.

That would have sucked.

It would have sucked for a lot of reasons.

Yeah.

American Dream Mall suffered an eye-watering $245 million loss last year.

Okay, maybe you're right.

Jerry was right. Since it's opening just five months before the pandemic, the $3.5 million is worth a mall.
Well, yeah, it opened right before the pandemic. Hank's reading again.
This also might be one of those things where like every mall in the world is going out of business right now because nobody goes to malls anymore. Yeah.
If they open right before the pandemic, I'm sure it didn't go very well. I think you're looking to blame Jeff Bezos in this situation.
You also, there's some stupid. This place is a dump and a failure.
There's also stupid ass rules in that whatever county that is in New Jersey. You can't.
There's no retail on Sundays. So the mall's open, but you can't go into any of the stores.
It's like Chick-fil-A? It's crazy. There's 50% of it's unleashed.
They owe the lenders $1.7 billion in construction financing loans. I mean, they're fucked.
This place is a dump. See you later.
I feel bad for kids, though, who don't get to have the simple pleasure

of going out and just hanging around a mall for a weekend.

Dude, I took my kids there all the time.

It was so much fun.

That's all you do when you're in seventh, eighth, ninth grade.

You just go hang out at the mall, try to get chased by a renter cop,

smoke a cigarette outside, and have enough money to get some shit on Hot Topic.

Spray some cologne.

Panda Express, Orange Julius, Auntie Anne's.

Just hit them all.

Give us a second. side and have enough money to like get some hot topic yeah spray some cologne pan express orange julius auntie ann's just hit them all get the free get the get the free uh samples the best the best um okay good show boys uh we'll see everyone on friday for the picks and preview should we do numbers i I'm going to go three.
Also, we will be streaming on Thursday at 430 Central is the Phillies game. And then we're going to do Thursday Night Football and the Astros Rangers.
So we will be streaming Thursday for Marathon with Max on the stream. You went three? Yeah, and Hank's giving me this look like.
Yeah, what was that look? 18. I picked three every single time for the last six months.
You picked three because I was picking three because I was stealing it from memes. Hank, can you make sure the new lottery ball is ready to go next week when we're in the new studio? It would be a big boost to morale.

Can I give you that?

Sure.

That didn't sound like it.

I mean, the first episode we ever do in the new studio, it would be sick if we had a

lottery ball machine.

Fresh slate on the stats, too.

Can you do that?

You showed me

a video of the lottery ball machine.

It looked like it was being held hostage somewhere. I don't know where it is.
You know where it is. Right.
All right. Where is it? It's been built.
It's ready to go. Where is it? We don't know if it's ready to go.
Well, I saw. No, I've seen.
Hank showed me a video of it working. Of it going? Yes.
Oh, okay. But where is it? What's the deal here, Hank? Why are you being so coy? You have no idea where it is.
No. It has to get wrapped.
I'll work on it. Don't worry about it.
There's still. Make this a priority.
Put this in the Hank Lockwood priority list.

All right. I'll get get everything off the everything else off your schedule.

Just this.

Okay.

So on Tuesday, if it's not there, it's your fault.

Sure.

Okay.

I like this.

I get you'll be cursed.

Actually, never mind.

No, go ahead.

You get you get what the first pick. No problem.
Okay, sweet. Actually, never mind.
No, go ahead. You get what? The first pick?

No problem.

Okay, sweet.

All right.

Great.

All right.

I'm going to go with my kicking number eight.

Okay.

Jake, would you go with 18?

Max 20?

You're such an inadequate troll sometimes, Hank.

63.

What do you mean that word?

Oh, Hater Hank is having a renaissance.

No, this isn't even Hater Hank.

This is Hank trying to lash out and flailing wildly.

I, for one, have enjoyed Hater Hank.

He's been a very nice add to the show.

I'm not a hater.

Again, it's like I'm trampoline Hank.

You come at me.

I bounce back just as hard as you.

PFC tries to take my number.

You took my number that I took from memes.

Fact or fiction, I've been saying three for like three months.

Fact or fiction, I've been saying three

before you started to say three out of nowhere.

Fiction.

No, that's fact.

You're fiction right now.

Okay, we'll see everyone Friday.

What number? It was 63. 63're fiction right now.
Okay, we'll see everyone Friday. What number?

It was 63.

63.

Love you guys.

Except for Hank.

Talking away.

I wonder what I'm to say.

I'll say it anyway.

Today is another day to find you shying away.

I'll be coming for your love of me.

For your love of me.

Stay on me.

Take me on.

I'll be you next time. It's no better to be safe inside.
Take on me.

Take me on.

I'll be gone.