Booger McFarland, The Lions Are For Real, Week 4 Picks & Preview Plus Fyre Fest

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Speaker 1 On today's part in my take, we have our good friend Booger McFarland on the show talking football, talking NFL, college football, quarterbacking, defense, everything.

Speaker 1 Always great to catch up with him.

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Speaker 1 We have Fire Fest of the week, and we're going to talk about the Detroit Lions. We have to talk about the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 1 Welcome to Pardon My Take. Today is Friday, September 29th, and the Detroit Lions are for real.

Speaker 4 For real, for real.

Speaker 1 They're awesome.

Speaker 4 This is a good game all around for the Lions. They played a only, ironically, the only weak spot that I thought that the Lions had tonight was their punting game.
Jack Fox had a down night.

Speaker 4 Didn't matter.

Speaker 1 It didn't matter.

Speaker 1 And the Lions went into Lambo. This is two straight winning in Lambeau.
They obviously won week 18 last year. They go in there.
They punch the Packers in the mouth.

Speaker 1 David Montgomery, Bear for Life, was absolutely unstoppable. And yeah, the Lions are for real.
Like that was a real,

Speaker 1 they've proven it. And

Speaker 1 I think Al Michaels was saying it. They've gone to Arrowhead.
They've gone to Lambo. They won both games as road teams, and they are looking great.

Speaker 1 They even had that moment in the second half where the game was maybe slipping away from them a little bit. And Ben Johnson was like, no, no, no,

Speaker 1 let's go back to what we were doing. Let's be aggressive again.
And they march right down the field. And yeah, I mean, Jared looks awesome.
Amon Ra, every time he catches a ball, he runs so angry.

Speaker 1 Their defense was firing. The Lions are for real, and I enjoyed the hell out of this game.
I will be, people will say I'm petty. People will say I'm being a bitch.
I don't care.

Speaker 1 This is going to be in the runnings for best Bears games of the year. This one, tonight.

Speaker 4 The Lions were just really good in every facet of the game. I don't think you don't have to be a Bears fan or a Lions fan to know that.
Like, watching it, the Lions look like a legitimately good team.

Speaker 4 Like, they should be contending. The expectation has been raised for the Lions.

Speaker 4 I feel like at some point, we're going to run into the place where the Lions are no longer the feel-good, plucky underdogs.

Speaker 4 They're going to have a target on their back now as a legit, good team in the NFL. I think they're up to it, too.
That defense is awesome, or at least tonight it it was good.

Speaker 4 They've had a couple hiccups here and there, like that Seahawks game sucked. But they dodged a bullet with Brian Branch.

Speaker 1 That looked bad when he got hurt again. He got re-injured.

Speaker 4 Well, yeah, because he shouldn't have gone back in the game.

Speaker 1 I know, he's a dog. He's a dog.
He's a dog's dog.

Speaker 4 And so, yeah, when he hurt his leg, I think everybody was like, oh, shit, I hope that's not an Achilles because he got carted off. He looked immobile.
And then they just taped him up.

Speaker 4 And he's like, I'll go back in there. Very clearly not ready to play yet, but at least he's not done for the season.

Speaker 4 Cause I think a lot of people thought, you know, worst case scenario when they see that. But yeah, the defense looked surprisingly good from the Lions.

Speaker 4 Jared was throwing blocks out there in the first half, laying people out,

Speaker 4 doing his best impression of George Pickens on a crackback. It was pretty cool to see.
And yeah, Amon Ra looked good. Everybody looked good on the Lions tonight.

Speaker 1 Sam Laporta's awesome. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Sam Laporta looked awesome. Like he has been, he just gets targets all day.
Yeah, the Lions are for, I mean, they went into Lambo and they were favorites, which is very rare.

Speaker 1 I think it was the first time in like 30 years or something.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, the Lions feel good. There's nothing better than winning a Thursday night game and being like free football on Sunday.
My team already won. That is the best feeling.

Speaker 1 We talk about it with March Madness when you win that early Thursday game and you're like, I can just watch basketball for the next day and a half and not have to worry about it.

Speaker 1 You get that, Lions fans. You get that all weekend long.
Just soak it in, being like, yeah, we're three and one. And I'm looking at their schedule right now.

Speaker 1 I don't, I mean, they're, they're, I think they're a seven and three, eight and two team going into the final stretch.

Speaker 1 Like, they don't have, they have a couple tough games, but they also have some games that they should be pretty big favorites. So, yeah, you're right, PFT.

Speaker 1 They might, we might be talking in December and people like, the Lions are just really good, and we don't, like, they're not the plucky underdog anymore.

Speaker 4 Yeah, do you think people will start to not like the Lions as much? Because they were very easy to root for with hard knocks, and they had, you know, the history of losing recently.

Speaker 4 It's been forever since they had had a good team and now they do have the expectations and people find a way to turn on them i'm sure about that if i know anything about sports anything that's been built up that people like they'll start to hate eventually it sucks but it's gonna it's gonna happen i don't think i'm gonna get there this year like the only way i can see myself rooting against the lions is if they're playing the commanders but that's obviously like for a personal reason but besides that I I I hope that people don't turn their back on them, but we are going to get a full Friday.

Speaker 4 If you're a Lions fan, you get a full Friday of sports takes entirely about your Detroit Lions and how good they are. So bathe in that, wallow in it.

Speaker 4 Who knows when it's going to happen again, but you've had the game or the day after the Chiefs game, and now you have this. It's a good time to be a Lions fan.

Speaker 1 To answer your question, I don't think people will hate Lions fans unless they win a Super Bowl, and then they would start to hate them. But I don't think, I think it would take a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 It's kind of like some franchises, I mean, the Cubs were one of them where it's like after that, people the red sox when they won theirs like after that people start to hate it but like the first one i think people would all be about because it is a tortured fan base so yeah i i think it would take a super bowl win for people to start turning on lions fans yeah so we spent this week talking about the tush push and a rule that some like barely anybody wants to see change but some voices want to see it change But there's a bigger rule that needs to be changed in the NFL that got brought to light tonight.

Speaker 4 The fact that a clock at zero is not reviewable in professional football is absolutely ridiculous. It's the one thing that you for certain can get right on a replay.

Speaker 4 There's no subjectivity to it, whatever.

Speaker 4 It's just straight up, is the clock at zero? And somebody explained it to me. They said, under current NFL rules, the penalty is not triggered when the clock hits zero.

Speaker 4 The trigger is the referee's judgment after that. So it's a judgment call technically, because

Speaker 4 the clock doesn't technically hit zero until the ref realizes that it hit zero it's like a tree falling in the forest question and the nfl is a king they're the king of making simple things and and taking them and making them so complicated that you have to have a philosophy degree to understand if there's no time left it's very easy to do review it and it was i mean

Speaker 1 listen when you play at lambo you got to play against the refs so we saw this remember that picture of the of the ref Lambo leaping That was a real picture.

Speaker 1 That actually happened.

Speaker 4 I saw one tonight of the Packers doing an end zone celebration with all the referees that were dancing with them.

Speaker 4 How do they keep getting away with this?

Speaker 1 I saw they did a jersey swap too after the game. It's even though they lost.
They're like, good job, guys. We'll get you next time.
Yeah, there was also a fan who poured a beer on Amon Ross St. Brown.

Speaker 1 I obviously had to fake that I was upset, but I actually am not upset because I actually think that's fair game. If you come into a fan's territory, you can get beer poured on you.

Speaker 1 Like, once you cross the threshold, that's our home.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's the guy that came to play tonight in Green Bay. He's the only one.

Speaker 1 You can't, it's, it's like getting upset. Like, if you go into the forest and a bear attacks you, like, you, you're in the fans' habitat now.

Speaker 1 I actually think that if a player goes into the stands, like, they could also get, they could get punched. Like, that's just, that's our rule.
We can't go on the field. You can't come in the stands.

Speaker 1 Yeah. The rules are there for a reason.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Max, I want to know as a Philly fan, Green Bay, good sports town, bad sports town. They booed the Packers at halftime.

Speaker 7 That's just keeping your boys accountable. That's fine.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 1 I have a question.

Speaker 1 I think Jordan Love sucks, and I actually hate him now.

Speaker 1 It took me three weeks, but I fully hate him because every time I think he sucks, he then makes a good play, which means like, wait, maybe he doesn't suck.

Speaker 1 And it feels like it's almost instantly the even, I don't even have to say it out loud. The thought comes into my head.
I'm like, he sucks. And then he'll do something awesome.

Speaker 1 I'm like, fuck, maybe he doesn't. But I still, I still think he sucks.

Speaker 4 I think he's, I think he's an average quarterback. I don't think he sucks.

Speaker 4 I think he is average and he's in an impossible situation to succeed in because unless he's one of the greatest quarterbacks to ever play the game of football, people are going to be like, man, the Packers fell off.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I actually, I should be rooting for that. I should be rooting for him to be just below average.
So it's a hard question of like, what do we do with him? That's what we need.

Speaker 1 Can't have it be like definite one way or the other. Just have them be in limbo of like, he does suck, but he doesn't suck.
He kind of sucks. I want that forever.

Speaker 4 It's actually true that the worst quarterback that you can have isn't a shitty quarterback. That's actually not.
It's not that bad to have a terribly shitty quarterback.

Speaker 4 The worst one to have is one that shows like flashes of brilliance and, but then sucks for the rest of the time. So you think like, well, let's give him another year.

Speaker 4 Well, let's give him another year. And then you just drag yourself on.

Speaker 1 Memes, you're looking at PFT like he's crazy right now. Memes, you and I, like Zach Wilson and Justin Fields, it's good what's happening because we have an answer.
The answer is important.

Speaker 1 It's not having an answer that's way scarier. Yeah.
We have an answer. Our quarterbacks suck.

Speaker 4 Right now, the Jets are acting like they don't have an answer. And maybe we spoke a little bit too soon about Zach Wilson because you'll hear it in the rest of the show.

Speaker 4 We talk about the Chiefs' Jets game and how don't overthink it. The Chiefs are going to wamp them.

Speaker 4 Some more details, some more revelations have come to light since then that I think we should address. Zach Wilson today,

Speaker 4 he was determined to win over the respect of his teammates. And today he brought ice cream for every single player and coach in the building.
So I feel like maybe Zach Wilson might be the guy.

Speaker 6 That was fake.

Speaker 1 That was fake. Oh, no.

Speaker 4 Was it?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I saw a Jets player tweet, I didn't get any ice cream.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 that's so sad. That's so sad.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was fake. I believe it.

Speaker 1 I quote you and said it would win me over.

Speaker 4 I was about to say the same thing.

Speaker 1 I looked at it and I saw that it was fake, but I was like, but wait, I would, if he did this, I would like, I would be a fan of it. So I was like, it would win me over.

Speaker 4 Like, this would win me over. I would spread this information.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, I guess I looked at it. I saw the guy had like 9,000 followers and he looks so fake when you look at his.

Speaker 1 And also, I think one of his other tweets was like.

Speaker 8 His most recent tweet was about the Jets.

Speaker 1 The Jets players kneeled in practice today in protest of not signing Colin Kaepernick.

Speaker 9 It looks like a legit source, though, at first.

Speaker 4 Well, yeah, because one of the players tweeted about it, and Big Cat tweeted about it.

Speaker 1 PFT, listen, I've said this a million times. If you don't get caught, that means you're not on the internet enough.
That means you're not doing your job.

Speaker 1 Part of our job is to be on the internet and to be hard, go hard in the paint. Sometimes you get caught.
That's the whole point of being on the internet. So when people are like, oh, you got caught?

Speaker 1 Yeah, no shit, dude. I'm fucking going hard, 365, 24-7.
That's what I do. Okay? I tweet.
I'm on the internet. That's what we do.

Speaker 1 I'll never log off. I'll never.

Speaker 1 You can't be ashamed. No.

Speaker 4 I'm not ashamed. I'm upset that it's not a real story.

Speaker 4 Yeah, no, I agree.

Speaker 1 I agree with that. Yeah.
It would have ruled.

Speaker 4 It would have ruled. Well, Zach should bring ice cream to the team tomorrow.
That's what he should do. If he's any kind of a leader, he will.

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Speaker 1 Should we talk about the dame trade real quick?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Fleeced.

Speaker 1 Damian Lillard is a Milwaukee Buck.

Speaker 1 Kind of crazy how it all went down. I read the whole report today that he essentially was like,

Speaker 1 when he said he wanted to go to the Heat, the Blazers front office was like, fuck this. We're not trading you to the Heat.
Kind of a spike deal where they're like, we're not doing that.

Speaker 1 And then when it got to late summer, early fall, he was like, okay,

Speaker 1 that's cool. I'll just come back.
And he was showing up to Blazers' facility for the last two weeks. And the GM was just not talking to him.
And then they're like, fuck this.

Speaker 1 We're just going to trade him.

Speaker 1 And now the Bucs have Damian Lillard. And Hank, you have to be a little nervous about this.

Speaker 4 A little nervous. I think Damian Lillard's, you know, a little old, a little past his prime, but it's, you know, you don't.
It's not something you love to see.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's not something you love to see.

Speaker 1 Like, it's their defense, obviously.

Speaker 1 Yeah, their defense takes a step back because Drew Holiday is elite defensively, but I don't know how you like the Bucs now have a perfect three that attack you from all different spots.

Speaker 1 Like Chris Middleton, mid-range, Damian Lillard from three, and then Giannis at the rim. Like, I don't, the spacing is going to be awesome.
Let's talk about spacing. Spacing is going to be sick.

Speaker 4 Talk about spacing. You know, we're not talking about the Celtics picking up Porzingis.

Speaker 1 We're going to be spaced all over the place. Did he like break his leg already?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 4 I don't think he broke his leg. I didn't read anything about that.

Speaker 10 I think you're confusing now with today's interview talking about Porzingis' injury.

Speaker 1 Oh, speaks on recovery from foot injury.

Speaker 4 Yeah, as far as I know, Porzingis is still very healthy.

Speaker 1 Okay. Well, as healthy as hell.
Yeah, he hasn't played yet. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he hasn't played that much.

Speaker 1 He's good to go for training camp. All right.
That was, yeah, he did a whole interview about how he was always injured. That can get confusing.

Speaker 1 He did an entire interview talking about his rehabilitation.

Speaker 4 So I don't know how much of the Blazers' refusal to trade him to the Knicks was out of spite because that's where he wanted to. I mean, how much was the fact that...

Speaker 4 yeah, yeah, sorry, the Heat was out of spite, and how much was the fact that they weren't able to offer what they needed in return for him?

Speaker 4 Because they asked for either Bam or Jimmy Butler, and the Heat was like, No, we're not going to do either one of those things.

Speaker 4 And so then the Blazers are like, Well, okay, we're going to then go out and try to find the best deal that we can get from any team that's not the Heat.

Speaker 4 So they did engage the Heat, but the only like the best package that they got, I actually don't think they got a bad package in return for it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, no, the Blazers did okay because they got eight and two.

Speaker 1 Yeah. No, the Heat are claiming that basically they stopped negotiations and the Heat never had a fair chance to bring in a third team to get more picks.
I like it for the NBA

Speaker 1 because I think that the idea that every player is just going to go to the Heat or the Lakers sucks for the NBA. So this is kind of nice.

Speaker 1 I know that the Bucs are already a title contender and it's not like he went to nowhere. Like Giannis is Giannis,

Speaker 1 but it is kind of nice to be like, oh, yeah, the guy that wanted to go here and demanded to go here didn't get to go here. Like, it's a little bit of a pushback on

Speaker 1 players just deciding wherever they want to go, whenever they want to do it. Yeah, because

Speaker 4 the GMs, they have a job that they have to do, and their job is to maximize value for their players if they're trading them somewhere.

Speaker 4 They're not there to make sure that their players go to a comfortable home. Their job is to try to make their team set up for success in the future.

Speaker 4 So, of course, it was always kind of a pipe dream for players to be like, I want to be traded and here's where I want to be traded to.

Speaker 4 And the only leverage that he had was saying that he's not going to play if he gets traded to a different team. Something tells me he's going to play on the Bucs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think he's going to play on the Bucs. So wait, Hank, you kind of deflected there.
Nervous?

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 not at all.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, you got to beat good teams to make it to the finals. This is no different.

Speaker 1 Okay. I mean, you know, I think the Bucs got better.

Speaker 4 I think Drew was really good. I thought they were really good with Drew.
Obviously,

Speaker 4 the year they beat him in seven, Middleton was hurt.

Speaker 4 But yeah, they're always going to be a threat. But the Celtics, Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown are in their prime.

Speaker 1 Damon's, you know, washed up.

Speaker 4 Okay, and Perzingus is washed up too. Damon Lewis washed up.

Speaker 1 Perzingus stays healthy.

Speaker 4 Like, you talk about spacing.

Speaker 1 The Celtics are going to be unstoppable. Max? If he's healthy.

Speaker 1 Sixers?

Speaker 4 I don't know. I don't know.
Get James Harden out, bring in Drew Holiday, I guess.

Speaker 1 And then it'll be just the same thing over and over again to lose in the second round and be like, oh, yeah, it was only year one of Drew Holiday. I was not alone.

Speaker 4 I heard that the Warriors were going to make a play for Drew Holiday, too.

Speaker 7 There's like every team in the NBA trying to make a play as a Blazer Holiday.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Dick, from your perspective, Miami Heat, Pat Riley, is he done? Yeah.

Speaker 4 I think Pat Riley Riley might be washed.

Speaker 1 Yeah, also, are you going to throw out your Damian Lillard Heat jersey that you bought?

Speaker 8 I didn't think you'd tell people about that, but

Speaker 1 look at Jake.

Speaker 10 I think people were overreacting before all the facts came out. And then when it came out that they wanted Jimmy or Bam, it's a little much.

Speaker 4 Old Pat Riley would have found a way to get done.

Speaker 8 Yeah. Probably, yeah.

Speaker 4 Also, PFT,

Speaker 4 I'll say it after we're done with the dame talk.

Speaker 1 What? No, go ahead. We're done with the talk.

Speaker 4 Your dog is the worst gambler of all time.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 4 He sucks. But I've been saying that he sucks.
From day one, his very first.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's what I've been doing. I've been fading him every week, and I'm making good money.
He's 0 for 4 on Thursday Night Football, taking his shit on teams.

Speaker 4 Maybe he's shitting on the teams that he doesn't like.

Speaker 1 No, listen, it's kind of like the quarterback thing. You'd rather have a dog be 0 for 4 or 4-0 than 2-2.
Now you know what to do.

Speaker 4 Listen, the first time I recorded him i told everybody i was like he's never seen a game of football in his life he's never watched the nfl don't trust this dog and sure enough he stinks at gambling and i'm making a lot of money fading him yeah fade blake um okay anything else i love him but he sucks at gambling yeah uh all right let's kick it to ourselves we've got a great rest of the show pick some preview booger mcfarlin firefest

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Speaker 1 Okay, boys,

Speaker 1 it's time. Week four.

Speaker 1 I was thinking about this. I know that we love the fact that there's 17 games in an NFL season now.
More football, more better.

Speaker 1 But I did, I do kind of miss the fact that when you get to week four, you're like, first quarter done. Yeah.
In your head, you're like, here's where we are.

Speaker 4 Because every coach will be like, well, really, the football season is a game of four quarters, weeks one through four, five through eight, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 4 So then you can just say, okay, we're going to wipe the slate clean if you go 0-4

Speaker 4 in the first four. Now it screws up the math a little bit, but that just means more time.

Speaker 4 If you're a bad team, I don't know if anybody in this room roots for any bad teams right now, but if you happen to stink, then you can just be like, all right, we're only seven, we're 25% done.

Speaker 4 We have 75% of the season left ahead of us. Now you have more time to make up that ground though.

Speaker 1 You are really the swing vote in this room right now.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I am.

Speaker 1 Half this room is bad teams. Half this room is good teams.
You are the swing vote.

Speaker 4 Things could go very, very poorly for me. My eyes are fully aware, fully open on that front.

Speaker 1 Join us.

Speaker 1 Join us. It's fun over here.

Speaker 4 We might just be the best bad team. No expectations.
I think we might be the best bad team.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you guys are a very good bad team.

Speaker 4 Really good bad team. Like, if there was a Super Bowl of bad teams, the losers bread, the NIT, if the NFL had an NIT, I put the Commies as a one-seed.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so week four, we got some great games. I'm excited about this slate.
I'm more optimistic than I was about week three. And we get to start a London game.

Speaker 1 So the Jaguars are going back-to-back London weeks. I actually,

Speaker 1 if you're a Jaguars fan, is there a small part of you that kind of, you obviously want to win? This is a season you're playing in. But if you go 2-0, everyone's going to be like, hey, the real home.

Speaker 4 There's going to be a lot of talk about London. We talked about it last week a little bit of how those rumors, those rumblings are kind of intensifying.
Yes.

Speaker 4 With them asking for more money for the stadium. You might not want to see London do too good with the Jaguars.
2-0. I think that's kind of a valid point.

Speaker 4 Because in the back of your mind, it's like, Dad, what if Dad just goes out to the store for cigarettes and never comes back? Like, what if the Jaguars never come back?

Speaker 1 What if they just keep winning in London?

Speaker 4 If they keep winning over there, it's going to be tough. But I think I like the Jaguars, first of all.
I like them a lot in this game. I do too.
The Toy Story game. I think Ritter,

Speaker 4 some people are starting to ask about Heineke. People, the word Heineke is bubbling up a little bit in Atlanta.
I'm asking about Heineke. I am as well.

Speaker 4 If you look at what Ritter's good at, he doesn't turn the ball over. He throws hardly any interception.
I think he had his first interception last week.

Speaker 4 So he's a safe quarterback, but you've got weapons that you would like to take some chances with. He kind of stinks at play action.
Heineke is awesome at play action. He does take chances.

Speaker 1 Kyle Pitts gets open all the time, never gets the ball.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's a matter of

Speaker 4 do you want to keep being kind of like average and being safe, or do you want to take a chance thinking playoffs? I think Heineke is the guy that will get you to the offs.

Speaker 1 The Jaguars are interesting, though, because there was a lot of expectations. Some people in the media were saying Super Bowl Jaguars, Pete Prisco, schedule.
Look at the schedule.

Speaker 1 Look at the schedule. The Jaguars, I do think that this is going to be their best performance.
They have the most drops in the NFL right now, so it's not all Trevor Lawrence. Nine drops.

Speaker 1 Calvin Ridley has been coached up to the point where they're getting back to saying, like, just be yourself, man. Just be, be, like, just remember who you are, which is never good.

Speaker 4 Mr. Parlay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's also.

Speaker 1 Revenge game, too. Revenge game for Calvin Ridley.
Yes.

Speaker 1 There is also for the Jaguars, never a good sign in week four for a team that's supposed to go to the playoffs to have rumors about who's calling the plays.

Speaker 1 So there was a rumor that Doug Peterson took over the play calling from Press Taylor. Then Doug Peterson came out in the press conference on Monday and said, no, that is fiction.
That is not true.

Speaker 1 The fact that we're having that discussion is not good.

Speaker 4 It's not good. But it's just one lot.
It was a bad loss to a division opponent at home.

Speaker 4 It was a tough thing to lose to the Texans and really get your ass kicked

Speaker 4 by the Texans and their shitty offensive line. That was embarrassing.
Yes. The Jaguars.
I think Peterson's too good of a coach to not bounce back from that game. It was supposed to be the Jaguars.

Speaker 4 And in this case, it's actually a good thing that you're supposed to be.

Speaker 1 In London, yeah. Yeah, Jaguars.
They dominate.

Speaker 4 In London.

Speaker 4 You got to go and play in front of your home crowd over there. The Toy Story game, I'm excited to watch the Toy Stories.
Yep.

Speaker 4 I'm excited to see what they do with the animation because the NHL game was awesome. Yep.
When they had the cartoons running around out there.

Speaker 1 I'm giving my kids over under...

Speaker 1 15 minutes is what I'm expecting out of them.

Speaker 4 That's a lot. Yeah.
That's a lot. That's a lot.
I'm praying for a fight. I would love to see the Toy Story characters fight each other on the field.

Speaker 4 Yes, or I'm not rooting for an injury unlike Steven Che, but if there was an injury, I'm curious to see, like, will Slinky the dog's back be broken and just like laying on the field?

Speaker 4 How good are the instant motion cameras that they're using? Are they going to be able to cut away during a crazy turn of events in the game? Do we get a streaker?

Speaker 4 If we get a streaker, what are they going to do there? I'm looking forward to seeing Booger dressed up in his whatever cartoon they're going to make.

Speaker 1 Booger. Yeah, so we're going to have Booger on later, and he is part of this broadcast.
Last thing about this game, I know that Jake's going to want to be like Lunder, Lunder, Lunder.

Speaker 1 In Tottenham Stadium, it's 5-0, 5-1 to the over.

Speaker 1 That's where they're playing. So don't even try it, Jake.
Don't even try it. You're going to do it still?

Speaker 8 If he gets to me. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Well, what's your nerd nugget for this game?

Speaker 8 My nerd nugget is that Jaguars running back Travis Etn is coming off his ninth time out of 20 games with 100 scrimmage yards last season at Wembley He ran for 156 yards.

Speaker 4 Oh fast grass, but this is Wembley.

Speaker 6 This is that was Wembley Stadium.

Speaker 4 This is football possibly.

Speaker 8 This game's at Wembley.

Speaker 1 Oh, it is?

Speaker 1 No, this game's at Tottenham. I thought.

Speaker 4 No, this game's at Wembley.

Speaker 1 Oh, it is?

Speaker 4 That changes everything.

Speaker 1 That does change everything.

Speaker 4 Okay, so the Lunder's back on.

Speaker 1 The Lunder is back on. All right.

Speaker 1 When's the game in Tottenham? Is it next week? Is Tottenham next week? They're going to be doing both. What were we going to say, Hank?

Speaker 4 Elite dual screen.

Speaker 1 Tottenham's next week?

Speaker 6 Okay, so put a reminder for the over next week.

Speaker 4 Elite two-screen Sunday morning with the Ryder Cup and football. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What are the times of the Ryder Cup? It's like 3 a.m. to noon.

Speaker 8 It's like we missed the beginning. It's perfect, but it's perfect.

Speaker 4 You will Sunday morning. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You have multiple TVs? I do have a lot of TVs.

Speaker 4 So that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 That was a nice. I actually paid Hank before this to be like, make sure you bring up that I have a lot of TVs.

Speaker 4 No, but it's like, you know, usually you wake up, because you wake up early, you watch the football game, it's like, eh. Usually the game's not exciting.
You kind of regret waking up that early.

Speaker 4 This is like, you got all the action going on first thing in the morning.

Speaker 1 I'm excited for the Ryder Cup.

Speaker 4 Did you guys see

Speaker 1 Brooks' wife, Jenna, who's a fan of this show? She's lovely. She was getting ready for a day with the girls.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and she looked like she was really ready for that day.

Speaker 4 And also, she was going to hang out with her friends, and she brought the girls with her.

Speaker 1 And the girls looked like fun.

Speaker 4 The girls look like they're...

Speaker 1 But Brooks is a friend, so we're not even going to... I was thinking about it.
And I say this, and I was like, wait, Jerry asked Brooks what his wife's feet size was on this show.

Speaker 4 The girls are looking really perky. There must be some good coffee over there.
This is all due respect.

Speaker 1 All due respect, Brooks. Your wife's fucking hot.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Brooks is listening to this.

Speaker 4 The thing is, he would listen and be like, yeah, she is.

Speaker 1 She is. Yes, she is.

Speaker 4 Listen, Jenna knows she's hot. Yeah, she's a good-looking lady.
She's a good-looking lady. Hi, Jenna.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 What's up, Jenna?

Speaker 4 Respectfully. Respectfully.
Yeah, very respectfully. Respectfully.
Respectfully. Did you see Victor Hovelin's hole in two?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 4 Maybe a real dimplehead could explain this to me. So he hit a ball out of bounds and then hit a provisional.

Speaker 8 I don't know if it was out of bounds or if they were just screwing around because it was practicing.

Speaker 4 I think they're just hitting balls. Okay, so he hit a hole in two.

Speaker 8 He hit a hole.

Speaker 8 He hit from the teeth in the hole on a part four.

Speaker 1 That's not a.

Speaker 4 It sounds like you're making a lot of excuses for that real hole in one, Jake.

Speaker 1 Now everyone's going to ask questions about

Speaker 4 your hole in one, knowing how fast and loose you play with the rules.

Speaker 8 I don't know the full context, but apparently it wasn't his first shot off the T.

Speaker 4 I would be pissed off if I hit a hole in one in a practice round. You got to save those good shots.

Speaker 1 And your hole in one was the first shot off the T? Yes, it was. Huh.

Speaker 8 Interesting. Everything on it.

Speaker 1 What? what betting everything on it betting everything on it yeah all the pop what you mean literally my whole life

Speaker 1 yeah okay

Speaker 4 all right dead uh dolphins at bills wait i'm i'm a little bit concerned about the loser behavior from the jaguars reddit though that that oh yeah that still concerns me that somebody from their fan base logged on to the titans reddit and asked them to say something

Speaker 4 yeah no no oh the titans that's right the jaguars the jaguars fan logged on to the tennessee titans reddit and said hey we're supposed to be the best teams in this division.

Speaker 4 Can somebody please make a similar post on our Reddit forum just to gas us up a little bit? That's loser talk, and that concerns me a little bit. And also the fact that

Speaker 4 I just feel bad for Jacksonville. I don't like even entertaining the fact that Jacksonville would lose their team because what would they do with that entire downtown area and the stadium?

Speaker 4 It would just turn into an open-air meth lab.

Speaker 1 It would just be Florida, Georgia every year. Yeah, Florida, Georgia.
That's the one game. What are they doing? Are they playing soccer out there?

Speaker 4 Wait, this is Florida, Georgia. This is is Florida, Georgia.
Yeah, Jaguars Falcons.

Speaker 1 Are they playing soccer?

Speaker 1 They're playing soccer.

Speaker 1 Chill with the bouncing, I think. Oh, the bouncing.
It's all right. It's not like the new office has a basketball court.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Dolphins and Bills. Definitely something that has crossed my mind a couple of times being like,

Speaker 1 no, Hank,

Speaker 1 you're going to swallow the key.

Speaker 4 No, I have reports that say you can't hear it from inside the studio.

Speaker 1 You do.

Speaker 1 Okay. Good reports.
All right, Dolphins and Bills. This game will be center, sound.
We all agree. Yep.
So excited for this game.

Speaker 1 Just a quick stat for you. This is the 12th team in the last 20 years to be 3-0 straight up and against the spread and be an underdog in a game.

Speaker 4 Interesting.

Speaker 1 The last time, the records for those teams, 2-9 straight up, 3-8 against the spread. I also, I know that, you know, if

Speaker 1 and nuts were candy and butts, every day would be Christmas.

Speaker 1 Wait, if if and butts were candy and nuts, every day would be Christmas. If the Bills had beaten the Jets week one,

Speaker 1 I think this line would be like five, six.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, it's even a little weird to me that it's only three. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Because it's the Bills at home. They definitely don't look like the same team that they were in week one.
Their rush defense is really good. Yeah.
And their defensive line is awesome.

Speaker 1 I think this is, I also just think that that I might have, I might just put this in my gambling portfolio. Jake, remind me this.
Any team that scores 70, fade them the next week.

Speaker 4 Yeah, isn't there, you think there's an element of getting so many yards on offense that you're still tired from doing all that running?

Speaker 1 Well, just not only tired, but like if you score 70 points in a game on 71 plays, you can't tell me that you don't go into the facility the next day. Like, what bad tape.
We're the best. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We'll just run the same plays. For sure.

Speaker 4 And if you get stopped on a couple plays in a row, you're like, what's wrong with us? Yeah. It's the Bills.

Speaker 1 I like the Bills in this game. I do too.
And I love the over.

Speaker 1 You have to bet it.

Speaker 4 I also feel bad for people in Wisconsin and Michigan who have to watch the Broncos Bears instead of watching this game. It's like Wisconsin and Michigan.

Speaker 1 Well, YouTube TV.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you could do YouTube TV, and Minnesota has to watch Vegas at Los Angeles for some reason that I don't really understand. Everybody should be able to watch this game.

Speaker 4 Everyone wants to watch this game this weekend.

Speaker 1 This game should have been flexed to Sunday night. I know they can't, but they should have.

Speaker 1 They should have done a couple flexes. They should have flexed the Broncos and the Bears to like 6 a.m.

Speaker 1 And then they should have 6 a.m. Like they actually kicked the ball off at 6 a.m.
in Chicago. Yeah.
And maybe the Jets Chiefs to 3 a.m.

Speaker 1 and like done a midnight madness of football.

Speaker 4 It would be great.

Speaker 4 It's like back to back to back to back.

Speaker 1 Right, because no football is truly bad football at 6 a.m. because it's totally bonus football.

Speaker 4 And also any game that's a standalone game, people are going to watch.

Speaker 4 It's like if it's the middle of NFL Sunday and half the games are dog shit, then you just ignore them and you forget about them.

Speaker 4 But if it's like the Bengals Rams game on Monday Night Football, everyone's like, oh yeah, we'll watch it. We'll keep watching, even though it's bad.

Speaker 1 I am nervous about the come down of two

Speaker 1 Monday Night Football games.

Speaker 6 Two weeks in a row.

Speaker 1 I think this Monday night's going to be tough for us.

Speaker 4 It'll be tough, but also it's not like it was a true doubleheader. True.

Speaker 6 Because there was so much overlap.

Speaker 4 True. It was like we were getting one and a half football games.
Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 1 Okay, so Dolphins and Bills. Yeah, I like the Bills in this game.

Speaker 1 This might be dumb. Maybe the Dolphins are unstoppable, but I just think that the Bills,

Speaker 1 I really think that this is a perception thing from week one because they did look so bad and Josh did look so bad. But the last two weeks, they've just completely demolished teams.

Speaker 1 And I know the Commanders yet to be determined. The Raiders not good.
But still, in the NFL, when you demolish teams, that's different than demolishing teams in college football.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and you can look at the rushing defense that they had. Like against the Raiders, I think Josh Jacobs had one yard.
Yeah. I think he had a yard carrying the football.

Speaker 4 And then last week against the Commanders, they didn't even make an attempt to.

Speaker 1 Their linebackers were great.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so I think that the Bills' defense is good. I think they match up well against

Speaker 4 what the Dolphins want to do on offense. We'll see if the Dolphins' passing offense can succeed, probably not to the point that it was last week because, Jesus, 70 points is not going to happen again.

Speaker 1 What if they just did that?

Speaker 4 I mean, it'd be sick every week. But again,

Speaker 4 I feel like points are a finite resource, like how Trump thinks that the human body only has a set amount of energy.

Speaker 4 So if you exercise, that's less energy that your body will have when you're 60, 70, 80 years old. Yep, I feel like that's the same thing with points.

Speaker 4 Without a doubt, they might have scored too many points last week.

Speaker 1 Too many points, Jake.

Speaker 8 Dolphins have scored 130 points so far this season. Four of their teams, since 1970, have scored at least 120 in the first three weeks.

Speaker 8 All of them have reached at least the conference championship game.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 8 2013 Broncos, 2015 Cardinals, 2020 Packers, 2009 Saints.

Speaker 1 The only one of those to win it all. Ooh.
Okay. Interesting.

Speaker 1 Next up on the TVs. we're going to have a TV crunch this week.
I will say right now, the multi-view, I know we don't get to decide what's on it. I'm hoping the Bears are on the multi-view.

Speaker 1 I have no problem putting the Bears in a small corner of a TV.

Speaker 6 I think that's fair.

Speaker 1 We're going to get every game on. That's my point, is we're going to figure out a way to get every single game on TV.

Speaker 1 Ravens at Browns.

Speaker 1 Ravens, underdogs. We've talked about it.
John Harbaugh, underdogs. He's been incredible.
19-4 in the last 23 games against a spread as an underdog. But this Browns defense is so fucking good.

Speaker 1 And probably the most underrated story

Speaker 1 of the first three games, I would say, is the Browns' defense being as good as it is. We talked about the yardage.
The last time it's been done was the 99 Bucs.

Speaker 1 Do you know that the Browns, the Cleveland Browns, through three games, have only allowed their opponent to be in the red zone two times?

Speaker 4 Yeah, because the Steelers. Yeah.
I don't think the Steelers got in the red zone against the Browns.

Speaker 1 Yeah, one field goal, zero touchdowns. Yeah, pretty impressive.

Speaker 4 Pretty And Miles Garrett, I think if we're doing like American Gladiators, you pick one guy in the NFL. I think Miles Garrett could beat anybody's ass in the league, like physically.

Speaker 4 And he's terrifying. You saw what he did to the Titans last week where he was just toying with them, just dancing around the line of scrimmage.
He's a beast.

Speaker 4 And as good as Harbaugh is as an underdog, that's exactly how bad Stefansky is as a favorite.

Speaker 4 He is, what's the stat here that I saw? He's 10 and 19 against the spread as a favorite.

Speaker 1 And I just, the Ravens are banged up. This is one of those games.
It feels like the Browns are stealing money.

Speaker 1 And if you're a Stefansky, you got to just sit down to Sean Watson and be like, hey, look, our defense is elite. Just be smart.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, he was good last week, so maybe that's, he's turned the corner. Just be smart.
Let our defense win these games.

Speaker 4 Do you think anybody in Cleveland still cares about, like, is there actually a revenge factor here with Baltimore stealing their franchise? They love to talk about that in all the pregame shows.

Speaker 4 It's like a little bit of revenge for when the Browns packed up and left town.

Speaker 1 It is crazy the Browns just didn't exist for a while.

Speaker 4 Well, they did exist.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, with the Ravens.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but no, the franchise of the Browns still belongs to the Ravens, or excuse me, it still belongs to the city of Cleveland.

Speaker 6 Right. They have all the history.
Right.

Speaker 4 But for a while, yeah, they just didn't have the Browns.

Speaker 1 They packed up.

Speaker 4 It's insane. And then Baltimore is like, we didn't do anything wrong when, in fact, Baltimore lost their own team in the middle of the night

Speaker 4 in Indianapolis. And then they're like, well, they did it to us.
Life isn't fair.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they started it. The Colts started it.
It's not our fault.

Speaker 1 Yeah, here's a little hypothetical for you guys.

Speaker 1 Want your thoughts. Would you rather have an elite defense or elite offense?

Speaker 4 Elite offense. Elite offense.

Speaker 1 See, maybe this is just my twisted brain because all I root for is bad offenses, but there's something awesome about going in with, if this Browns defense continues on this path, something about having a defense that is completely suffocating, it just feels more manly when you go into a game because you're like, they're not going to do shit.

Speaker 1 We're going to fuck them up. Yeah.
You know what what I mean? Like you can't fuck someone up with offense.

Speaker 4 That is absolutely the point of view that you would take if you haven't had a good offense for a while. Correct.
It's like you learn to get excited when your team is on defense.

Speaker 1 But there is something about being score. There's something about being like, they can't do shit.
There's nothing like when your defense is truly elite.

Speaker 1 and the and the line of scrimmage, like everyone's close to the line of scrimmage and like they can't do shit. They're not going to be able to have any time.

Speaker 1 Every pass that's thrown could be an interception. I don't know.
That gets me all tingly. Again, this is because I've never really watched an elite offense, but still, it gets me tingly.

Speaker 4 At the end of the day,

Speaker 4 you would want an elite offense. That would be so hard.

Speaker 1 What wins? Imagine.

Speaker 4 What wins. So defense wins championships.
Correct. But actually, it doesn't.
But it does. Actually, offense wins championships.
But defense does. But defense wins championships.

Speaker 1 But defense does. But in the last, like, no, but defense is won.
I mean,

Speaker 1 the Rams.

Speaker 1 But the Rams defense was elite.

Speaker 1 The

Speaker 1 Bucs defense smothered Patrick Mahomes. That was completely a defensive.
The Patriots' last Super Bowl was a defensive ever when they took out the race. Tom Brady.
No, but I'm saying that.

Speaker 1 How many points did the Patriots score in that Super Bowl? The defense won that game.

Speaker 4 They still, no, but okay, there's a difference between one game and also the entire season.

Speaker 1 I think, though, that once you get to the Super Bowl, you got to have the defense.

Speaker 4 Yeah, once you get to the Super Bowl, you have to have a defense.

Speaker 1 Guess who didn't show up to the Super Bowl this past year? The Eagles' defense. Yeah.
They needed it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Neither did the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 No, the Chiefs' defense showed up.

Speaker 4 Well, Jalen Hurts dropped the ball. It made some stops.

Speaker 4 Turf, turf.

Speaker 1 Turf, turf. I don't know.
The defense does still win championships.

Speaker 4 Listen, defense does win championships, but also really offense wins championships.

Speaker 1 My best argument here is the Bucs versus Mahomes. That was a defense winning a championship.

Speaker 1 They completely fucked him up. They didn't score a touchdown, right? No.
Yeah. Defense wins championships.
I'll go to my grave thinking that. All right.
Next game.

Speaker 1 Wait, did you give us your nerve nugget?

Speaker 8 Yeah. Mark Andrews has seven touchdowns against the Browns, the most by any Ravens player ever versus Cleveland.

Speaker 4 Whoa. Interesting.

Speaker 1 He's like the Boston Scott of

Speaker 4 this rivalry. Against the Giants, right? Against the Giants.
Mark Andrews also had a gash on his arm.

Speaker 1 I'm looking at your tweet about it.

Speaker 8 He gets gashed. He's attacked by a tiger.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he looks like Jokic out there. Like the gash is like three inches wide on his arm.
They need to sew that thing up. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Bucks at Saints.
Or, no, sorry. Commanders at Eagles was my next game I had on there.

Speaker 1 Max, PFT, Sam Howell has been sacked 19 times so far this year.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Nine last week. I feel like that might be a bad thing against the Eagles.

Speaker 4 Pressured on 79% of his drop backs, which is that's just a ridiculous number. And the shitty thing is, I'd love to just say, like, it's all the offensive line.
We need to address the line.

Speaker 4 That seems like just a nice magic wand that you can wave. But Sam Howell is definitely getting himself into some of those situations.
He hangs on to the ball for a while. I'm very afraid.

Speaker 4 Congrats, Max. I'm just going to give it to you.

Speaker 4 25-point win for the Eagles this week. The defensive line is going to eat.

Speaker 4 you're going to man you're going to rewind and watch so many jalen carter clips it's going to be sick for you i'm going to be disgusted with it i i blame uh 40

Speaker 4 on the offensive line 40 on sam howell and then 20 on tony p in dc tony p in d who showed up for the game last week and he's not even he's not even a commanders fan well he showed up don't blame him yeah

Speaker 1 he's our king he's our king

Speaker 7 this motherfucker showed up wearing a commanders jersey you're a patriot he's a king you literally went into the day last Sunday saying we're not going to lose on Tony P Day.

Speaker 4 Yeah, well, I thought you were.

Speaker 1 You can't change your mind like that.

Speaker 4 I love Tony P, but now I hate him because he's a certain person.

Speaker 1 No, you're not allowed to say you love Tony.

Speaker 4 He's a curse. I can't say.
Facts are facts. No, you can't.

Speaker 1 I disagree, Max.

Speaker 1 You're not allowed to say you hate Tony P.

Speaker 4 Okay, I don't hate Tony P. Thank you.

Speaker 4 It's impossible to hate Tony P. Tony P is the best.
He's the one pure thing left on the internet without a trace of irony to it. I love him.

Speaker 4 You can't help but watch his videos and be like, this guy's so wholesome.

Speaker 1 And he's getting ad deals.

Speaker 4 But I just don't want him to be a Commanders fan. Is that fair?

Speaker 1 He's a patriot. The Commanders shouldn't have had him be a social ad deal.

Speaker 4 I agree. Maybe there's some blame to go around there.

Speaker 4 Maybe, maybe you take a wider view of things if you're the Commander's social team and you find a guy that's really been a fan of your team for their entire life that has a big internet presence.

Speaker 4 And maybe you lean into doing a partnership with that person instead of, hypothetically, Tony PFT is what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 Yes, in D.C.

Speaker 4 In D.C. Yeah.
But yeah, okay, no disrespect. I don't like that.

Speaker 7 Now you're trying to steal his business.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Don't you know? I'm trying to take food out of his mouth. I am.

Speaker 4 I'm trying to take a nice salmon risotto off his dinner table.

Speaker 7 I saw that. That looked like a great meal.

Speaker 1 It did great meal. Positive masculinity.
He's the antidote to Andrew Tate. Yeah.
He is.

Speaker 1 He's two superheroes clashing.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, I think I'm nervous for you, PFT. I feel like this is going to be.

Speaker 1 It's not the game you want Sam Howell after his worst game as a pro to go into against the Eagles defensive line that just eats.

Speaker 4 No,

Speaker 4 I am not looking forward to that at all. I think that everything favors Max in this matchup.
So that's what I'm saying. Probably a 25-point victory for you, Max.

Speaker 1 And they lost last year to the Commanders, so they're like, hey, we can't overlook this team. Yep.

Speaker 7 If it was in D.C.,

Speaker 1 I mean, we're not losing this game at home.

Speaker 6 No,

Speaker 1 that's basically what

Speaker 7 I want to do the whole like, oh, anything can happen. Like, stop saying we're going to win by 25, but we probably will.

Speaker 1 We're going to win by 25. Our good friend Stephen Shea is firmly on the hot seat for this game because he wished injury on Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 1 Jalen Hurts Hurts did a press conference this week and mentioned Stephen Shea, not by name, but said a guy even wanted me to get injured.

Speaker 1 If Jalen Hurts gets injured this week, Stephen Shea, he's done. He's done.
He's like, I told him, I tried to lay it out for him.

Speaker 1 I was like, you're going to have to watch this game more intently than the Bucks Saints because Jalen Hurts better be healthy at the end of this game.

Speaker 4 And, Max, if Jalen Hurts gets severely hurt in this game, you have to be the one to kill Stephen Che.

Speaker 6 Yeah, you do.

Speaker 4 Because you'll do it humanely, relatively speaking, compared to what the rest of the game is.

Speaker 1 You have to slap him in the face.

Speaker 7 Yeah, do I have permission?

Speaker 1 Yeah, we have like a no, not permission.

Speaker 4 It's a mandatory slap.

Speaker 1 Okay, so maybe a shove. Okay.

Speaker 7 I just want to make sure that like

Speaker 7 violence is okay in the workplace.

Speaker 1 I think a shove is okay. I think you're allowed to shove him very hard.
Because it should be a tush-push, like a violent tush-push. Yeah, you got to push him in his buttocks.

Speaker 4 Okay. And it will be doing a favor to him.
Yeah, compared to what the rest of Philadelphia is.

Speaker 7 He also tried to do, he tried to backtrack and just put out good film breakdowns of Jalen Hurts today.

Speaker 7 I mean, he's terrified. When I saw the film breakdown, I was like, he is terrified of Eagles Twitter.

Speaker 4 Because he actually stands, I don't want to put words in his mouth, but. Oh, no, he's not apologizing.
He's not apologizing.

Speaker 1 He said to me

Speaker 1 that he doesn't want Jalen Hurts hurt. He wants the play removed.

Speaker 1 And he thinks that all the buzz that he's started

Speaker 1 is probably going to get the play removed.

Speaker 6 So he's going to be a hero. It's loser talk.

Speaker 1 He literally said that. He's like, I think that I started the conversation that will then get the play removed.

Speaker 7 My dream is that they remove this play, the Eagles still do it and still get it every time. They will.

Speaker 1 We said this on Wednesday.

Speaker 7 It'll just break every single person's.

Speaker 7 What are you supposed to do in that situation?

Speaker 4 Yeah, maybe one time a game the tight end grabs him and pushes him forward. The rest of the time, it's just the offensive line being bigger and stronger and better.

Speaker 1 And Jalen Hurts being a beast.

Speaker 1 JJ Watt agreed with my take on Wednesday that even if they took away the tush push, the Eagles would still sneak it and they would sneak it to an insane success rate. It would.

Speaker 1 So, more teams should do it.

Speaker 1 Okay, nerd nugget. The Eagles

Speaker 8 lead the league in rushing defense, allowing 48 yards per game to their fewest rushing yards surrendered through three games since 2008.

Speaker 4 Yeah, not good. This doesn't stack up well for us.

Speaker 4 But I said before the Bills game, if we win one of the next two, Super Bowl match. I'm thinking Soupy.
Yeah. So even though we're definitely not a Soupy team, we're the best-worst team, I think.

Speaker 4 If we win this, I am back to

Speaker 4 a fully delusional PFT because then we got the Bears coming up next. Yeah, easy win.
And so then we'll be four and one.

Speaker 4 Four and one's good. And then Soupy.
Now, if we lose, then I could also see us losing to the Bears.

Speaker 1 No, so I don't think so.

Speaker 1 All right. Bucs at Saints.
Jameis Winston revenge game. Let's fucking go.
Jameis Winston holds all the records for the Bucs.

Speaker 1 He holds the yards record, the touchdowns record, the completions record for the Bucs. That's pretty good.
He's the greatest quarterback in Bucs history. And guess what?

Speaker 1 Even better, he doesn't hold the interception record.

Speaker 4 That's very impressive. Vinny Testaverti.
Awesome.

Speaker 1 I looked it up. Vinny Teseverdi, I wish we were doing the show in 1988 because Vinny Teseverdi had a season, 1988.
He threw 13 touchdowns and 35 interceptions.

Speaker 4 How did he make it through that season?

Speaker 1 And it was a 15 games that he played, and he didn't throw a pick in two of those games. So he threw 35 interceptions in 13 games.
That is the funniest season ever. That's awesome.
That's so awesome.

Speaker 1 He had a game of five interceptions and a game of six interceptions.

Speaker 4 And yeah, the fact that they kept him in for the entire season when he's going 12 to 30 is actually that's impressive. It's very impressive on his part.

Speaker 1 Vinny Tesverse had 112 interceptions in 76 games with the Bucs. Jameis only had 88 in

Speaker 1 72 games. That's nothing.
That's nothing. Nothing.

Speaker 4 But the beauty with Jameis is as bad as he can be and make terrible decisions and throw the ball to like four linebackers who are all standing there licking their chops, like wearing a bib.

Speaker 4 Jameis will throw the ball directly to him. He'll also throw that fucking deep ball, and it'll be pretty, and you'll forget about every other bad thing that he ever did.
Yes.

Speaker 4 I think that the Bucs should have a welcome home video for Jameis Winston. I agree.
I think that they need to do a video tribute to him.

Speaker 1 It's in New Orleans.

Speaker 4 I still think that they should. I agree.
They should have a watch party at Raymond James and then... put a giant big screen TV on the pirate ship.
Yes. And then have just Jameis Winston highlights.

Speaker 4 Thank you, Jameis. Thanks for everything.

Speaker 1 Also in this game, the return of Alvin Kamara. Oh, yeah.
He's back. He's back.
He also said.

Speaker 4 He had a very funny video that he put out of him getting out of jail. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He also said

Speaker 1 in his return, he's going to do whatever he's got to do. Okay.
That's ominous. Yeah.
I feel like that's the one guy you don't want to do whatever he's got to do.

Speaker 4 He'll beat the shit out of a guy in an elevator.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Just.
Alvin, just run the ball. That's fine.
Catch the ball as well, but you don't have to do whatever you got to do.

Speaker 4 What's up with running backs in elevators? Just a bad combination.

Speaker 1 I think it's just confined space. They want to hit the hole.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's like, they want to get the fuck out of here. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. So

Speaker 4 I'm all in on the Saints this weekend. I feel like Jameis is going to have some fun.
I would also like to see a Jameis Winston podcast. Athletes having podcasts is a big thing right now.

Speaker 4 I would love a Jameis Winston podcast.

Speaker 1 Jameis, come on this podcast. Alvin Kamara has also been, it's been reported that he looks explosive in return to practice.
Okay.

Speaker 4 He's fresh legs.

Speaker 1 He will. I mean, like, the Saints offense has not looked good through three weeks.
It's looked slow. And now you have one of the best running backs in the league back.
So nice bonus.

Speaker 4 And remember Michael Thomas?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 He's around. Michael Thomas.
Slant boy.

Speaker 1 Shaheed Rasheed. Is that my guy? Rasheed Shahid.
Rasheed Shaheed.

Speaker 4 He's fast. Yeah, he's the best.

Speaker 1 Nerd nugget.

Speaker 8 Will the third time be the charm for Jameis Winston against the Bucs, the team that drafted him in 2021?

Speaker 8 He was knocked out of the game by Devin White, illegal horse collar tackle that led to the viral dancing on crutches game in the locker room.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 8 And then 2022 against them, three interceptions, sacked six times.

Speaker 1 Ooh, okay.

Speaker 8 So he hasn't done well against.

Speaker 4 This is also the game where Michael Thomas, or yeah, Mike Evans, Mike Evans is going to get ejected. He loves getting into fights against the Saints.
Yeah, he absolutely loves.

Speaker 4 Now CD Deuce is gone, but I still think he's going to see that uniform and be like, I got to fight. Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 Okay, next game.

Speaker 1 Bengals at Titans.

Speaker 1 Is Joe Burrow all the way back? Do the Titans actually stink this time? Because I have a couple thoughts in my head. One is, I keep thinking to myself, it's Vrabel, it's the Titans.

Speaker 1 They always will look like dog shit at points of the year, but they'll keep fighting and they'll be there at the end of the season looking for a playoff spot.

Speaker 1 What if this Titans team actually just is dog shit, though? And I catch myself keep trying to ride that wave.

Speaker 1 And because they are, admittedly, I think even like their front office, they're in a transition period. It's clear what they're doing.
They're trying to get younger.

Speaker 1 They're going to phase some guys out. Maybe they just suck this year.

Speaker 4 They might. And Hopkins might be starting to think that.
And that would be the return of a Diva wide receiver. Yeah.
If they continue to stink this year, Hopkins is going to be pissed off. He's like,

Speaker 4 I got sent here for this. Yeah.

Speaker 6 He's going to be pissed off.

Speaker 1 Although he sent himself there.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but still. Yeah.
But still, he's going to be mad. He's going to be mad.
He's going to be very, well, he like demanded to be out of Arizona.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but then he chose. Yeah, then he chose Titans.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's like, let me make it harder for myself.

Speaker 4 When are we going to start thinking about our boy Will Evis?

Speaker 1 Ooh, single.

Speaker 4 Single. Single, ready to mingle.
Dude's ready to show out right now. The problem's not entirely Ryan Tannehill, but he's a part of it.
He's definitely a part of it. He's a big part of it.

Speaker 4 But there's other stuff going on there, and their offense just looks bad across the board. They can't run the football.
Nope. And so we'll see.
Maybe just feed Derrick Henry this weekend.

Speaker 4 But the Bengals rush defense is pretty good. It's good, yeah.

Speaker 1 I also

Speaker 1 like the Joe Burroughs, part of his maturation process as a franchise quarterback. I don't know if you guys have caught this.
He's been using the Royal Wii a lot. Oh, I like that.
I like that.

Speaker 1 So even after the game on Monday Night Football, they asked about his calf, and he said, you know, we just got through it. We just got to just get back in rehab.
And then that's him and his team.

Speaker 4 That's him and Harambe.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and they asked him about the calf during his press conference during the middle of the week. And he said, we're ready to go.
So talking about himself.

Speaker 1 But I think that's the next step in every quarterback.

Speaker 1 You have to go from the I to the we, just talking about yourself, though.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's smart. It's a good, it's a good move.
So you're not just using the singular pronouns. And I think Joe is...
Joe wants to play.

Speaker 4 His owner probably doesn't want him to play because this dude is allergic to spending money.

Speaker 4 He's like, wait, so not only did I give you a big contract, but I also built like a practice bubble and we changed our playing surface that we practice on because I invested so much money in you.

Speaker 4 And now you're going to play with the same injury that Aaron Rodgers had before he got hurt.

Speaker 1 Knock on wood.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's not what knock on wood.

Speaker 4 I'm just saying that from the owner's perspective. He's probably, this is the rare instance where the owner is like, don't, please don't play.

Speaker 1 I'm poor.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's Kristen Wigg in Bridesmaids. Yeah, also they're like, I'm poor, Joe.

Speaker 4 Did you know that Joe's doing the Gronk thing where he's not spending any of his money? I love it. So he's just riding off his marketing money.

Speaker 4 So he's going to have like $250 million in his bank account for retirement. I mean, which is probably going to be the best retirement ever.

Speaker 1 And he's probably got a sick house in Ohio because it doesn't.

Speaker 4 It probably doesn't cost that much. Cincinnati.
Yeah, he's living his life.

Speaker 1 Nerd nugget.

Speaker 8 The Titans' defense allowed 78 rushing yards against the Browns to mark the team's ninth consecutive game in which it did not allow an opposing offense to reach 100 rushing yards, the longest active streak in the NFL.

Speaker 4 And Jake, how many of those games have they won?

Speaker 8 Probably not many.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I don't think they've won a single one of them.

Speaker 1 But it sounds like a good stat. Yeah.

Speaker 8 These teams are. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They're great at it. I think Joe Burrow is going to have a big game.
I think he's going to start pushing the ball down the field.

Speaker 4 I hope so. I hope he's.

Speaker 1 I think we're ready to push the ball down the field. Okay.
And we're ready to get back.

Speaker 1 All right. Next up, Vikings at Panthers.
Bryce Young Young is back.

Speaker 1 Andy Dalton back to the sideline. Adam Thielen revenge game.
Big time.

Speaker 1 I tried to look up and see if there's any bad blood, and the only thing I could see, it was Adam Thielen saying, I didn't want to leave Minnesota, but they had a different vision for me.

Speaker 1 And then he went on to say, there's no bad blood. I'm so thankful to the organization.
They handled this throughout the process was first class.

Speaker 1 Zero bad blood.

Speaker 4 He said that the only thing he's going to be doing differently on Sunday is he's going to get onto the field earlier so he can can go and say hi to everybody that he misses.

Speaker 1 Seems like a great dude.

Speaker 4 So, D.Va.

Speaker 4 I think he's being sarcastic with all this. I think Adam Thielen is really pissed off at the Vikings.
I'm going to bet him score a touchdown.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just take the first part of the quote. I didn't want to leave Minnesota, but they had a different vision for me.
There you go. That's it.
Bad blood.

Speaker 4 Adam Thielen, Diva wide receiver. Bad blood.
Pissed as hell at the Vikings.

Speaker 1 Do you guys know who's leading the league in passing this year? Kirk Cousins. Do you know who's leading the league in receiving?

Speaker 4 Justin Jefferson.

Speaker 1 Correct. Kirk Cousins and Justin Jefferson now, it's obviously a 17-game season, and they have had explosive offense through the first three weeks, 0-3.

Speaker 1 But Kirk Cousins is on pace for 6,000 yards, which would far eclipse Peyton Manning's record of 5,477 in 2013. Justin Jefferson is on pace for,

Speaker 1 what is it? It's like

Speaker 1 2,600 yards, which would far eclipse Megatron 1964 in 2012.

Speaker 6 In In their own three.

Speaker 1 In their own three. But that would be cool if both of them broke the record.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, that would be the ultimate Kirk Cousins season, wouldn't it?

Speaker 1 To break the record.

Speaker 4 Yeah, to break the record and go like 5-12. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Also, when I was looking up

Speaker 1 single-season passing records, do you know who's 10th all time?

Speaker 4 I do not know who 10th is.

Speaker 1 Jameis Winston. Okay, cool.
With 5,000 yards,

Speaker 1 5,100 yards in 2019.

Speaker 4 Also, the year he threw 30, 30. Which was the best season ever for a quarterback in history.

Speaker 1 The top 10 is just Drew Brees, like six times, and then Peyton, one Tom Brady, and Jameis.

Speaker 4 Have you noticed this about Kirk Cousins this year?

Speaker 4 I feel like he's getting more gun-shy. Like, he'll do a lot of throwaways, even if he has a wide receiver open.

Speaker 4 He'll pass the ball a little bit early, and then he'll like duck away from the rush as it's about to sack him. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Because he's gotten hit a lot, and I think he's just starting to feel, you get older, you feel pain a little bit more.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like late-stage Eli.

Speaker 4 Exactly, yeah.

Speaker 1 He self-sack.

Speaker 4 Maybe not the self-sacks just yet, but he's at a point where he's self-incompleting. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So he'll throw it out, get it to the sidelines, and then turtle away and do a little shrug away from the defender as he's about to get hit.

Speaker 1 Also, credit to us, not to suit our own horn, but I think we've been very fair with Kirk Cousins this year. It's not his fault.

Speaker 1 The defense has been very, very bad, and the regression monster hit them worse than we even imagined because they went 11-1 last year, 0-3 this year in one-score games. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I mean, the Eagles game, I guess you could say that's a one-score game, but it was like a backdoor one-score game. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I actually think, too, the Panthers could win this game with Andy Dalton. I don't think Bryce Young's ready right now.

Speaker 4 Andy Dalton looked really good. He did.
And then Frank Reich said that Bryce Young, this was like a two, three-week injury, and Bryce took one week off, and now he's back.

Speaker 4 Did you know what his nickname is, by the way?

Speaker 1 No. Bryce Young.

Speaker 4 His nickname is the gingerbread man.

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 4 Which is also Andy Dalton's son's nickname in my book.

Speaker 1 Ooh. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 But yeah, he's the You Can't Catch Me. I think that's what it goes back to.
Oh. The nursery rhyme.
Okay. He's got to get a better nickname.

Speaker 1 He's got to get a better nickname. Speaking of Frank reich frank reich is three and ten in his last 13 games quietly terrible

Speaker 4 quietly very terrible he should play a game over in london because he looks like one of those buckingham palace guards yes never changes facial expression never moves yeah good coach i guess i three and ten in the last 13 i think he's i think he comes from the ron rivera jeff fisher book of being a stable head coach yes if you have a tumultuous franchise around you then you look at that guy and you're like well at least this guy's not emotional he's an adult in the room.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He's a great adult in the room.
You're like, hey, what do we do here? Oh, I've actually been in football for my entire life, so I have an answer for you.

Speaker 4 He's a football lifer. He's seen it all.

Speaker 1 Yes. All right.
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Speaker 1 Raiders of Chargers. Raiders of Chargers.

Speaker 1 I don't really know if we want to talk about Chandler Jones. It seems really weird.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 I'm thinking he's not in a good place mentally.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it does. Although when he said, like, I'm getting off social media for a while, no one hit me up.
I'm going to be with some strippers, and they got me. That was a boss move.
It is a double move.

Speaker 4 That was a boss move. That's what Paul Pierce said.

Speaker 1 Did you guys, though? So let's now talk about Chandler Jones.

Speaker 1 I hope he gets... help better.

Speaker 1 It does feel like it's spiraling in a bad place right now. And then everyone tweets about it.
It's like, oh, this kind of, this is not great. So I hope he gets whatever he's looking for, help.

Speaker 4 RG3 reached out to him, though. Okay.
He tweeted that out. That I've reached out to

Speaker 1 Jones. To let us know that he reached out? Yeah.
Oh, beautiful. But he's on the case.
Okay, great, great, great, great.

Speaker 1 Did you guys hear the story about Marquette King? Yes, yes. That's the funniest story ever.

Speaker 4 That was my note on this game, was just the saga of Marquette King.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so here's the story. Marquette King, I don't know if he went on a podcast or something.
He's a recurring guest.

Speaker 1 He said that he was probably released by the Raiders because owner Mark Davis once saw him with two females and said, I see you.

Speaker 1 Marquette came over and gave him a soft noogie to show he was not as mean as the bullies Davis dealt with throughout his life who did hard noogies.

Speaker 1 And that's why he got released.

Speaker 4 Because he noogied his owner.

Speaker 1 Soft. I thought soft noogie.

Speaker 4 My perception of the thing the entire time was that John Gruden probably hates punters. Yes.
He hates kickers. Yes.

Speaker 4 And then you've got a kicker that's doing celebrations and dancing and looking like he's having a lot of fun. And then Gruner was like, I can't deal with this guy.

Speaker 4 This guy's not a real football player and he's acting like one. I disagree.

Speaker 4 It was the noogie. It seems like it was the noogie.

Speaker 1 It was the noogie.

Speaker 4 Mark, if there's one guy you don't want a noogie, it's a guy who looks like he's got like a carrot sprout growing on top of his head.

Speaker 4 Because if I were looking at Davis, I would think that if I gave him a noogie, it would just compromise the entire structural integrity of his head. Like it would just scramble his brain up.

Speaker 4 He looks like he's got a nice soft head.

Speaker 1 By the way, I fucked up. I jumped around the Raiders and Chargers.
I don't know why I had it earlier, but it's obviously a late game. But yes, Marquette King, noogie, monster.

Speaker 1 I also just love the idea of Mark Davis being like, I see you.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I see you, dude.
The first time I read.

Speaker 1 Two women at the same time?

Speaker 4 When I read this, I thought I had it reversed. I thought that Marquette King was hanging out and saw Mark Davis with two women at the same time and came over and gave him Noogie, like, great job.

Speaker 4 Keep it up.

Speaker 1 But think about it. It is, if you walked by me with two women and I was like, oh, I see you, PFT.
And then you gave me a little soft noogie. I'm like, what the fuck, dude? You already have two women.

Speaker 1 Why are you doing this? Yeah, you're running up the score. Yeah, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 You're doing like a little pal, little boy thing. Yeah, you'll get there one day.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think the Chargers without Mike Williams are going to be in trouble.

Speaker 6 He's pretty good. He's good.

Speaker 4 They've got Keenan Allen who catches a million balls. Is Eckler coming back? Is he back this week?

Speaker 1 I think he might be back. I'm not sure, but

Speaker 1 I feel like Mike Williams is pretty important. And that's going to hurt.
Justin Herbert has been phenomenal, though.

Speaker 4 And they should win this game. Eckler's out again.

Speaker 1 And we might see Hoyer the destroyer here.

Speaker 8 Yeah. NFL rumors.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. I don't know if that's legit or not.
You know what? I'm gonna reported that Eckler's out.

Speaker 4 I'm gonna put a must-win on this for the Chargers. Yeah, this is a must-you got this.
Is a take-care of business game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you gotta do it.

Speaker 1 Gotta do it. Uh, Rams Occults.
Uh, we sent our tickets to someone who had an Andrew Luck. Oh, you have a nerd nugget for Chargers, Raiders?

Speaker 8 Yeah, 10 of the past 14 road games for the Chargers against the Raiders have been decided by one score, three of them in overtime.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay, so fun game. Yeah, uh, Rams Occults, we sent our tickets to a guy who had an Andrew Luck

Speaker 1 tattoo, Felt bad for him. Yeah, there were no fake Super Bowl ones.
That's actually good. I'm surprised by that, but maybe that's more like a Philadelphia thing.

Speaker 4 Well, I think that if you have a fake Super Bowl one, you probably limit your time spent online moving forward after that. Yeah.
Because you probably got a lot of flack for it.

Speaker 1 You don't think that's a Philadelphia thing, Max?

Speaker 4 It's whatever.

Speaker 1 I think it's a Philadelphia and Toronto Maple Leafs thing.

Speaker 4 And Buffalo.

Speaker 1 Buffalo does it as well.

Speaker 6 Buffalo definitely does it. Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 But yeah, Ramsey Colts.

Speaker 4 In Buffalo, that's basically like a war medal that you carry around. It's like, I've been through this many battles.

Speaker 4 This is how many times I thought that my team was going to win the Super Bowl when they did it.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 We have Anthony Richardson back.

Speaker 4 Back. For, yeah, for at least part of the game.

Speaker 4 I'm worried about Anthony Richardson. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 He's played two games and been injured in both games.

Speaker 4 He looks awesome when he's out there. Yeah.
Also, Sean McVay is just, he knows the spread. That's all you got to know about Sean.

Speaker 1 It's actually a nice thing to know now.

Speaker 4 He knows the spread. He knows the spread.
Every time.

Speaker 1 He knows the spread.

Speaker 1 Nerd nugget for this game.

Speaker 8 This is the first of five games for the Rams this season with a 1 p.m. Eastern kickoff tied for their most on their schedule since they moved from St.
Louis.

Speaker 8 Five games that they're really slate. Okay.
For an LA team. It's a lot.

Speaker 1 I like that.

Speaker 1 That's a good nerd nugget. Thanks.
Did they stay out Midwest?

Speaker 8 Well, this is their first one.

Speaker 1 No, but I know they played at the Bengals.

Speaker 8 Oh,

Speaker 1 did the Rams stay out Midwest? Oh, I'm not sure. Did they go to the Greenbrier?

Speaker 1 I'll say it. I'll say it.
Find out if they went to the Greenbrier.

Speaker 4 They started fading the Greenbrier.

Speaker 1 Yeah. We got to know where they went.
All right. Steelers at Texans.
Next up.

Speaker 1 Proud Boys stand up. Stroud Boys.
Proud Boys stand up. Stroud Boys.

Speaker 1 That was a mistake.

Speaker 1 That was my meeting after this.

Speaker 4 Stand back, stand by.

Speaker 1 Stroud Boys. Name your favorite serials while I beat the fuck out of you.

Speaker 4 Stroud Boys are feeling pretty good right now. Yeah.
CJ Stroud, rookie of the month, on pace to be rookie of the year in the NFL. I would say so.
He hasn't thrown an interception.

Speaker 1 Throwing with

Speaker 1 great anticipation. I watched a clip of him throwing a guy open with his eyes.
That's what you want to see early on in a career.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm buying. I'm buying everything.
Good.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the offensive line stinks. Tunsil's been out.
I don't know if Tunsil's playing this weekend. As of recording time, we're unsure.

Speaker 4 That would be good for CJ if he was playing because the Steelers' defense is awesome. Yes.
And so I feel like this is going to be a lot of pressure on him.

Speaker 4 Steelers interception this week. CJ might throw his first INT.
I hope not. Well,

Speaker 4 it feels like

Speaker 4 he's been really, really solid. He's made a lot of good throws.
I think if you're power ranking the rookie quarterbacks right now, you got CJ number one. I would say Anthony Richardson.

Speaker 1 Healthy Anthony Richardson.

Speaker 4 I would say Anthony Richardson number two. And he is awesome to watch.
Hank was right about Anthony Richardson.

Speaker 4 I think we all need to take a step back because we had a good laugh at Florida's expense last year. They lost a lot of games.
Didn't look good.

Speaker 4 Anthony Richardson, Hank saw something in him. Hank was the first person to see.

Speaker 4 This guy can play quarterback.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're a scout.

Speaker 4 And then, yeah, probably Bryce number three.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Bryce number three. And then who else went? Will Levis still single?

Speaker 4 Will Levis number one?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's single.

Speaker 4 Yeah, also hasn't thrown a pick.

Speaker 1 The only thing I'm worried about in this game is just Mike Tomlin is a favorite, Rode favorite.

Speaker 1 Always a scary proposition. And I feel like this is a really good benchmark game because if the Steelers win this game, they're 3-1.

Speaker 1 They obviously had that terrible game week one, but they righted the ship.

Speaker 1 And if the Texans win this game, I feel like it just completely changes their expectations this year where it's like, hey, the AFC South's winnable.

Speaker 4 They got to get Andrew Beck some touches.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this was going to be a tanking year, and now it could be a year where, you know, they could be flirting with the playoffs.

Speaker 4 Got division's wide open.

Speaker 1 Division's wide open. Yeah, the Steelers have the Ravens next, so maybe a look-ahead spot.

Speaker 1 Those two teams don't like each other, PFT.

Speaker 4 They don't. Throw out the record books.
Throw out the record books. No love loss.
This game is

Speaker 4 the Steelers as a road favorite after Mike Tomlin winning a game as a road dog feels like bet against the Steelers.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.
I would agree.

Speaker 1 Okay, Nugget.

Speaker 8 Has the Steelers prepare to face

Speaker 8 CJ Stroud this weekend? Keep in mind that Pittsburgh is 48-13 in the regular season when facing a rookie-staring quarterback since 1970. So throw out everything we just said.

Speaker 4 Yeah, has Matt Canada been promoted to head coach after his great performance last year?

Speaker 1 He's the owner of the Steelers.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he's just going to keep getting promoted.

Speaker 1 Yeah, failing upwards. All right, next up, worst game.

Speaker 1 Broncos at Bears, 0-4, 0-4, 0-3, 0-3. Both teams should be 0-4.

Speaker 1 It's crazy that the Bears are so bad that they opened as a two-and-a-half-point underdog to a team that lost by 50

Speaker 1 at home, and now they're a three and a half-point underdog.

Speaker 1 I mean, we've talked about it ad nauseum. The Bears season is completely over.
It's collapsed. Justin Fields feels broken as a person, which I understand because that would break you.
There was some

Speaker 1 backup badging is getting some first-team reps. Who the fuck knows what's going to go on? Like, it could quickly turn into save your job mode at Hallis Hall.

Speaker 4 So I have a couple insult stats that I'll just get out of here. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, we just grow them on a tree. We have like, remember the ticket tree? Yep.
It's an insult stat tree.

Speaker 4 Do you know how many sacks the Bears have this year?

Speaker 1 Sacks on the quarterback? As a team. On the quarterback.

Speaker 4 Not giving up. I'm talking about defense.
Bears, defense, how many sacks do you have?

Speaker 1 It's either one or zero. You have a sack.

Speaker 4 Okay, it's one. You've got a sack.

Speaker 1 Was it week one?

Speaker 4 I'm not exactly.

Speaker 1 It might have been actually against

Speaker 1 the backup. Who's the backup for the Chiefs? Gabbard? Yeah.
Yeah, he might have been the first one.

Speaker 4 You guys dominated the fourth quarter. Two picks.
So there are 59 players in the league that have as many sacks

Speaker 4 as the Bears do as a team. Another insult stat here, maybe not an insult stat, but a shocking thing that I saw in Pro Football Focus.
They grade out every offensive player.

Speaker 4 Do you know who your best offensive player is on the Bears? Per PFF?

Speaker 1 Claypool. No.

Speaker 1 Maybe Darnell Wright, but it's definitely going to be an offensive lineman.

Speaker 4 It's Justin Fields. Oh, Justin Fields is the best player on the Chicago Bears offense.

Speaker 1 That's a good sound.

Speaker 1 That's a great sound.

Speaker 1 I don't like that.

Speaker 1 No, it is a quarterback.

Speaker 4 You want your quarterback to be the best player.

Speaker 4 The leader of the team.

Speaker 4 My concern with Justin Fields, we talked about it a little bit before we started taping, but I've never seen him really have fun when he plays. Why would he? Even when they're winning.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 4 he hasn't won. There's one time that I

Speaker 4 just one time I remember seeing him happy. That was against the 49ers in that shitty game.
You remember it was like muddy?

Speaker 4 He dove across the field and just like laid out in the rain with the entire team. That's the only time I've seen him really happy on a football field.
I have seen him happy.

Speaker 1 They haven't won. This game is going to be played in October, and the last time they won was last October.

Speaker 1 The Bears haven't scored more than 20 points in nine straight games. And like I said, October 24th, 2022 is their last win.
I think we're going to probably get to a calendar year.

Speaker 1 I don't see the Bears winning this game.

Speaker 1 They have the worst combination in football. Their defense is soft, and their offense looks slow.
You can't, that's...

Speaker 1 That's the worst two adjectives you can put on either side of the ball.

Speaker 4 Jay, can you look up and see what the longest losing streak streak is in the history of professional football? I think it's the Lions. I want to say like the 2008, 2009 Lions.

Speaker 8 Buccaneers,

Speaker 8 26 straight from 76 to 77.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 4 All right, so you're not going to reach that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we could.

Speaker 4 I doubt it. I don't think so.

Speaker 4 I think you guys might win this weekend.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well,

Speaker 1 the problem is it is like kind of a last stand for Sean Payton and Russell Wilson. Like, if they start 0-4 and they lose to this Bears team, I think Russell Wilson might get pinched.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 And it wasn't his fault last week. Their defense sucks.
But

Speaker 1 this feels like the Broncos, if they want any. The Bears season is over.
The Broncos have one last chance to save their season. It's to win this game.

Speaker 4 I think whichever coach loses should have to pull a Bud Dwyer in the press conference. You go out there with a paper bag.
Everybody stand back. Ever Flu should be fired if they lose no matter what.

Speaker 1 But they don't fire coaches like that because they're cheap. And also, I don't want them to fire them because I want Caleb Williams.

Speaker 1 I have said the names Caleb Williams and Jim Harbaugh probably a hundred times in the last four days and just man football. I want to bring back man football, Caleb Williams, Jim Harbaugh.

Speaker 1 Let Jim Harbaugh just stuff all the dorks in House Hall into a locker and just go back to being a man football team.

Speaker 4 Did we ever find out what happened with your D coordinator?

Speaker 1 No, but

Speaker 4 because from what I've read,

Speaker 4 the reports went out of their way to say no criminal activity, but HR was involved.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 4 And they did a digital forensic search as part of his resignation, which they say that they do on everybody that gets fired or

Speaker 4 little Mike Babcock. Yeah,

Speaker 4 they went through all his electronics and shit. That to me seems like it's not something that they would do on anybody that moves on from the team, right?

Speaker 1 Well, Mark Pottish, who writes for the Chicago Sun-Times, very good journalist, did a great job because he finally asked Matt Eberflus, because they were all

Speaker 1 oh, we don't want to talk about it. We want to talk about it.
He simply was like, hey, it's kind of weird. No one's wished him well.
Yeah. And I was like, oh, yeah, that's a good point.

Speaker 1 Because if you believe Alan Williams is health and family reasons, you would think his coworkers would be like, hope he gets better. Hope whatever's happening gets better.

Speaker 1 If one of you had to leave this podcast for health and family reasons, I would be like, I'm rooting for them. I can't wait for them to be back.
All the good things.

Speaker 1 If you had to leave for something nefarious, I'd be like, not talking about it.

Speaker 4 Can we just do some unbased speculation? Yeah. Can I just throw something out there? You think he was giving plays to the opponents?

Speaker 1 No, because I think we do that. Luke Getze does that by just running the first three plays.
Like, we'll see this again a million times over. Gambling?

Speaker 1 I think that would probably be reported on. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Say what you want about the Bears.

Speaker 4 They're doing a good job of keeping this secret.

Speaker 1 Well, I think the NFL as well. The NFL is doing a good job of being like, we're not talking about this.
Yeah. It might have been gambling.
It might be something bad. It might have been gambling.

Speaker 1 But either way, yeah, the Bears are bad. The Broncos are bad, but a little bit better than the Bears bad.
Because Russell Wilson has moved the ball.

Speaker 1 They've had moments where they've looked like a competent offense. Their defense is atrocious, but so is the Bears.

Speaker 1 So yeah, this game, let's just hope that this game ends up being a shootout because that would be fun.

Speaker 1 Because there is, in a weird, alternate world, how much shit I've been giving the Bears and also the world being like, this game shouldn't even be televised.

Speaker 1 The defenses on both sides are so bad that we could have a fun like Big 12 shootout, which would be awesome. If we have like a 45, 42 game.

Speaker 4 You can make bad football look real good as long as both defenses suck equally.

Speaker 1 Problem is, if the offenses also suck, the offensive lines suck, then the defenses start to look better.

Speaker 4 It's going to be a bad game.

Speaker 1 The Bears are bad. Jake.

Speaker 8 The Bears-Broncos game will be the first game in NFL history between two teams who combined to allow at least 110 points and 1,100 yards the previous week.

Speaker 4 See, I think it's going to be a good game. Yeah, I think it's actually going to be fun.

Speaker 8 From the Vikings-Panthers also applies to this game. Only Only six of 251 teams that made the playoffs after losing their first three games.

Speaker 8 Only the 92 Chargers that made the playoffs after starting 0-4.

Speaker 1 Playoffs. So you're saying the Bears season, if they start 0-4, they're not going to make the playoffs.

Speaker 8 Well, the 92 Chargers. That's true.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's whatever.

Speaker 1 It's almost freeing. I was talking to a friend last night.
It's essentially like going, a turtle, like going, retreating to its shell.

Speaker 1 As soon as you admit that the Bears are a disaster, Justin Fields isn't the guy, the whole organization is a joke,

Speaker 4 the less you can get hurt.

Speaker 1 I can't get hurt anymore because I'm admitting it. So

Speaker 1 the hope is gone, the faith is gone, all these things. I just went back into my shell.
It's like, go ahead, do whatever you want. I'm a turtle in my shell.

Speaker 1 I'm just going to live my life and you can't bother me.

Speaker 4 I think it's going to be a fun game, though. I really do.
I hope so.

Speaker 8 It is pretty cool. The four 0-3 teams are playing against each other.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's so cool. That is cool.
That's so cool.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Patriots and Cowboys. So I screwed up, and I did Raiders and Chargers already.
So we have two late games in Raiders and Chargers. So three.
Again, they did nine and three. Fuck the NFL for this.

Speaker 1 Is it next week? What's next week?

Speaker 4 Count next week for me. I would imagine it would be four or more in the afternoon slate because you don't have to doublehead on Monday night.

Speaker 8 You have a morning again.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Jags are playing again. Patriots and Cowboys, the Henry Lockwood Bowl.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm excited.

Speaker 6 Split jersey?

Speaker 1 I'm trying.

Speaker 4 What do you think about the video of Mac Jones that has emerged of him clearly, clearly hitting Sauce Gardner on his penis?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's a penis toucher.

Speaker 4 He's done it three times, Hank. It was a penis touch.
It was not a touch.

Speaker 4 It was a light tap.

Speaker 1 Wait, what's a tap? Is it tap a touch?

Speaker 4 Like he grabbed his, like,

Speaker 4 he doesn't want me to have kids.

Speaker 4 You hit him in the balls.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you hit him in the balls. Is it tap a touch? Did I just touch you?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay, I tapped you.

Speaker 4 So he touched his penis. Yeah, but guys get their penis touch all the time.
It's funny.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Maybe on a scrum.
Oh, damn.

Speaker 4 Maybe on the Browns.

Speaker 4 In a scrum like that, that's just ball.

Speaker 1 It's just ball. Do you think that there's something to be said for the amount of times this has happened? No.
I don't think Mac Jones. That was a quick no.

Speaker 1 That was like a, I don't want to say my real answer.

Speaker 4 I don't think he's good enough. I don't think he's good enough to be doing this shit.

Speaker 4 Like, if you were on his team, you'd be like, dude, stop doing that because, one, you suck, and two, you're going to get my balls hit. He's not that bad.

Speaker 1 Let's find a middle ground. Would you admit that Mac Jones is at least a little bit sus?

Speaker 4 I think Mac Jones has an edge to him. He's a competitor.
Is it a sussy edge? He's got some fire. No.

Speaker 1 It's not a sus? No. A pause?

Speaker 1 Mac Jones, pause? No,

Speaker 4 if he grabbed his nutsack and squeezed him, that's a pause. Hank, what do you think about Chris Paul?

Speaker 1 Competitor. Olympic champion?

Speaker 1 He's on the Warriors. Yeah.
It's crazy.

Speaker 4 That's going to blow my mind.

Speaker 4 I read an article the other day, and I was like, it was like Dream on Chris Paul, like training. I was like, what the fuck? They might trade him to to the Blazers.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, so how do you think this game's going to go?

Speaker 4 I'm worried about Micah Parsons.

Speaker 1 Mika.

Speaker 4 I'm worried about Micah Parsons.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it feels like the Cowboys are pissed off.

Speaker 4 Cowboys are pissed off coming off a loss.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 4 I think we can win. Okay.

Speaker 6 At least cover.

Speaker 1 Definitely cover. Oh, okay.
That was a quick, I think we can win to at least cover. Why do you think you can win?

Speaker 4 They haven't been playing bad football. They've been, you know, the Eagles and the Dolphins are better than the Cowboys.
They pretty much beat both those teams.

Speaker 1 I do think the Patriots' defense is very good, and we'll keep them in this game, but I just don't know if the

Speaker 4 Zeke revenge game. He knows all the revenge game game game game game.

Speaker 4 It's a double revenge game. They've got Zeke and then Will Greer, right?

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 4 The Patriots signed Will Greer, what, last week?

Speaker 1 Yeah, to get all all the seats. To get all the plays.

Speaker 4 Yeah, they've got all the plays from the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 Smart. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Cowboys need to win, like, for everything that everyone was talking about, the Cowboys and their aspirations. They have to win this game and kind of convincingly.
Tell me your real.

Speaker 1 It's not a dynamic offense the Patriots are running. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Tell me your real Cowboys.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Show us your real.
Okay.

Speaker 8 So next week we have the morning game, which is Jags Bills.

Speaker 4 Great start.

Speaker 8 And then it's a six and four split with a Cowboys Niners Sunday night game.

Speaker 1 Love that. Good.

Speaker 4 Good. Great job.

Speaker 1 14s have the bye tomorrow.

Speaker 8 This is bye.

Speaker 1 Good thing we'll be in New York City for Surviving Barstool.

Speaker 4 Oh, it's bye weeks already?

Speaker 8 Yeah, bye weeks next week.

Speaker 1 When would you have been fast?

Speaker 4 When do you want to have your buys?

Speaker 1 Like middle, like week nine?

Speaker 4 Yeah, you don't want to. It's like too early sucks.

Speaker 8 I think it goes up to like 13 or 14.

Speaker 4 You like burn your bye week if you have it week five.

Speaker 1 I think you like. I actually

Speaker 4 commanders have it week 14 with the Cardinals. Best bye week is getting rested up for the playoffs.
I like that.

Speaker 1 Best bye week is Halloween. You think so? Yeah, you get to spend Halloween with your family, get to eat a lot of candy.
It's your bye week. Yeah, that's good.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's right around the middle, because I don't think you want to have it late.

Speaker 4 Thanksgiving wouldn't be bad.

Speaker 1 Thanksgiving's nice. Yeah.
Wait, there's bye weeks Thanksgiving?

Speaker 1 I thought they were over by then.

Speaker 4 Oh, it said week 14.

Speaker 8 Oh, yeah. There's no bye weeks Thanksgiving week, but there are bye weeks after.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah. I think I'd rather I'd pick Halloween.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Halloween's not bad. Maybe the weekend before Thanksgiving.
Get a head start on travel.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 8 So with the victory this week against Dallas, Bill Belichick will join Don Shula and George Hallis as the only NFL coaches with 300 career regular season wins. Wow.
318 for Hallis, 328 for Shula.

Speaker 1 Ooh, he's coming up on it.

Speaker 1 Wow. Okay.
Regular season.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Last late, slate game. Cardinals at 49ers.
Cardinals are 3-0 against spread.

Speaker 4 Josh Dobbs officially having his jersey being sold in the team store. That's huge.
Finally.

Speaker 1 That's big.

Speaker 4 What did I tell you about that Cardinals defense?

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, it's the Cardinals' offense that surprises me.

Speaker 4 Well, yeah, Josh Dobbs, he can scoot.

Speaker 1 And they've been running on people. I think they'll get killed.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that seems like the 49ers are the best team in the NFL.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and they just dominate people. And did you know that since Christian McCaffrey was traded to the 49ers, the 49ers are 15-1 in regular season games? Yeah.
12-4 against the spread.

Speaker 1 And Christian McCaffrey is, we're on record watch.

Speaker 1 Christian McCaffrey has 12 straight games scoring a touchdown. 13 is the 49ers record with Jerry Rice.
15 is the NFL record, O.J. Simpson, and John Riggins.
Wow.

Speaker 1 So he's, I mean, his prices to score a touchdown, I think they're like, I think it was, I was looking yesterday, it was like minus 240.

Speaker 4 That's insane.

Speaker 1 To score a touchdown.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think we should start talking with Christian McCaffrey about running back wins. The way that we talk about quarterback wins.
Yeah. They're winners.

Speaker 4 I think Christian McCaffrey is a winner at the running back position.

Speaker 1 And credit to us for being the ones who masterminded the whole thing. Exactly.
People forget. we said it first.

Speaker 4 We wished it into existence. Kyle listens to the program.
We know that. He wears the hoodies when he's going up against Hank's shitty Cowboys teams in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 And Kyle Shanahan heard us say, like, hey, that guy Christian McCaffrey, the running back for the Panthers, he's good at football. He's really good.
Kyle Shanahan was like, I got to look into him.

Speaker 4 Looked into him. Next thing you know, boom, he's setting records.

Speaker 1 Never heard this guy. All right, what's your nugget?

Speaker 8 Sunday's game between the Cardinals and Niners will be the fourth meeting in the last five games to feature a different quarterback matchup.

Speaker 8 2021, Kyler Murray versus Trey Lance, and then their second game was Colt McCoy, Jimmy Garoppolo. 2022, McCoy Garoppolo again, and then David Blau and Brock Purdy.

Speaker 8 And this week, Josh Dobbs against Brock Purdy.

Speaker 8 So no stability in this matchup. No.

Speaker 1 Quarterbacks. All right.
Last game, Sunday night game, Chiefs at Jets.

Speaker 1 Quick stat for you. In Chiefs games that Taylor Swift has attended, the Chiefs are 1-0 against the spread, and they're covering by a margin of 18 points against the spread.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and this is another Bring Your Girlfriend to the game game where it's like we're playing the Jets. Taylor's not a real girlfriend unless she goes to like an actual matchup against a real team.

Speaker 4 PFT, let me ask you a question.

Speaker 1 Travis Kelsey went to a Taylor Swift concert, right? Yep. Taylor Swift has gone to two

Speaker 1 Travis Kelsey's games? After this week. Huh.
Seems like I was right. The NFL is bigger than Taylor Swift.
There you go. No problem.

Speaker 4 Well, Zach Wilson does love older women. He might ball out this weekend.
Yeah. She's really old.
Is she really old? No, but I'm just saying that to her. Who loves her?

Speaker 1 She's Taylor Swift. She's like 45.
She's like 1989.

Speaker 4 Yeah, she's like 45.

Speaker 8 That's all I know.

Speaker 1 Oh, 1989.

Speaker 6 Okay, that makes sense.

Speaker 1 33. Yeah, that whole dominant stuff.

Speaker 4 That's a MILF. Is Taylor Swift a MILF?

Speaker 1 I don't think she's embraced the baby. Oh, I was going to say something right there.

Speaker 1 I don't think she's that attractive. So, big cat, I don't think she's that attractive.
I'm the same age. I'm on record.
Yeah. I'm on record.

Speaker 4 I would not have sex with Taylor Swift.

Speaker 1 I'm on record. I would.

Speaker 6 I would not.

Speaker 1 But I'm on record that I don't think I'd enjoy it that much.

Speaker 4 I would not. I think

Speaker 4 she falls into like the Nicole Kidman status for me where I know that's in theory a beautiful woman, but it's like too elegant and fragile. Yeah.
Doesn't do it for me.

Speaker 1 Butterflies come out of her vagina. Yeah, I don't like that.

Speaker 4 I don't like that.

Speaker 1 What are your thoughts on this? You think we're getting ourselves in trouble? No.

Speaker 4 I would not have sex with her. If she was right here and she was like, PFT, let's go.
You can put it anywhere. I'd be like, well, I'm going to keep it in my pants.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Thank you so much, Taylor, but I got football to watch. Yeah, so you should watch it too.
Yeah, maybe you'd like it. Did you see that cheat sheet that got leaked?

Speaker 1 I don't know if it was actually hers, but it was very funny. It was like a cheat sheet of Wendy Cheer,

Speaker 1 famous Chiefs,

Speaker 1 and all the traditions. It was great.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it was great. The video that I thought was the best was the theory that she was escorted out of the suite

Speaker 4 inside of a giant popcorn machine.

Speaker 1 And she was just sitting there. I think it's true.

Speaker 4 Apparently, that's how she gets into concerts sometimes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, with the mops.

Speaker 8 Yeah, between.

Speaker 8 But I think it's true because I saw so many videos of people outside her box, but none of the videos captured were her actually walking out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I feel like someone would have gotten it. Who was in her box?

Speaker 8 Jake? Not me. Donna Kelsey.

Speaker 1 Oh, nice. That's hot.

Speaker 4 Wait, no, she was in Donna Kelsey's box.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Taylor wanted to try the mom before the sun.

Speaker 1 How Berber said that.

Speaker 1 The other video that made me laugh was the video of Travis Kelsey looking up and smirking, and all the Swifties were like, look at how he looks at her. This is incredible.

Speaker 1 And some dude just quoted me like, he's 100% looking at a replay right now.

Speaker 4 Or the scoreboard.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was looking at a replay. He was probably watching his own touchdown.

Speaker 4 Yeah, pointing up at it being like, yeah, fist pump, I love you.

Speaker 8 Also, the tickets are skyrocketing for this game. Yeah, I mean, that

Speaker 4 and like the

Speaker 4 tickets for the Jets game and Jason Kelsey is the biggest winner. Like the fact that, you know, their podcast is new and emerging and this is happening is just.

Speaker 1 Hank, why don't you detail a lot of people? There's stuff like what what

Speaker 1 you got to report. There's only so much you can do.

Speaker 4 It's like, I've been thinking about what I can do, and it's like, there's a report, a report that you're dating Beyonce.

Speaker 1 Oh, is that true?

Speaker 4 No comment. Is that true? Come on.

Speaker 4 Come on, Hank. What you like?

Speaker 1 I do like Jay-Z.

Speaker 1 It's a thruple.

Speaker 4 Oh, so

Speaker 4 you're banging Jay-Z too? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Even better.

Speaker 4 What's it like?

Speaker 4 What are the encounters like? I don't want to speak, you know, Illuminati, things of that nature. I think, you know,

Speaker 1 God can get killed.

Speaker 4 $500,000 or have a threesome with Jay-Z and Beyonce. Which one do you want? The latter.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Imagine if Beyonce came and watched our podcast.
Why the fuck are they talking about this lighthouse?

Speaker 1 Oh, fuck. I thought it was a sports podcast.
Yeah, the Chiefs are going to kill the Jets.

Speaker 4 Well, the Jets found an answer at the quarterback position. They signed Trevor Simeon earlier this week.

Speaker 1 This is my don't overthink it game of the week because

Speaker 1 there will be a lot of people who overthink and be like, nine and a half, ten points. Ooh.
No.

Speaker 1 Chiefs, the fact that Taylor Swift is going, the Chiefs are going to fucking throttle him. They are.
And the Chiefs' defense has not been talked about, has been very good this year.

Speaker 4 Yeah, if I was a Jets fan, memes,

Speaker 4 I would be so upset that the answer is Trevor Simeon, that that's all you've gotten so far. At what point does it become the Jets' problem and no longer Zach Wilson's problem?

Speaker 4 Yeah, Trevor Simeon, that was just the worst yesterday. But Zach Wilson did have a quote today.
He said, I promise I'm doing everything I can to get better.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I believe him. Yeah, he's due, though.
He's due to have one good game.

Speaker 4 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Is he? He won no in primetime this year. Okay.
All right.

Speaker 4 Well, he didn't start that game.

Speaker 1 Donna Kelsey might be in the crowd. Okay.

Speaker 1 That's all I got. Okay.

Speaker 4 That's all you got. Zach Wilson.
So I'm saying he's going to ball out for Taylor Swift. You're saying no, no, no.
He's going to ball out because Donna Kelsey's there.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah, you guys are going to get fucking pounded.
No, the defense is going to show up on primetime. You guys are going to get pounded.
This is going to gonna be a nice 17-3 game.

Speaker 1 Well, that wouldn't be covering. No, I know, but that would be

Speaker 8 the defense balling out.

Speaker 4 Hey, what's what's Beyonce like as a kisser? How does she kiss?

Speaker 1 Great.

Speaker 4 Let me smell your lips.

Speaker 1 Let me get a little of that.

Speaker 1 Does she dance for you, Hank?

Speaker 1 Yep. Yeah, good.
Nice. Great dancer.
Should we do our picks?

Speaker 1 Who goes first? What are the scores? Give us all, Jake.

Speaker 8 Well, first off, Garrett Wilson, 20 games to reach 1,200 yards, the quickest road to that number any player in Jets history

Speaker 8 okay so he's playing well um all right so

Speaker 1 in

Speaker 8 the warm-up and the opening act I'm four and two max and memes are two and four

Speaker 8 the main event big cat 4-0-2 undefeated nice two pushes hank 3-2 and 1 PFT 2-4 all right anybody's game anybody's game And we're going to lead off with Max coming to me and around.

Speaker 1 Okay, Maxi,

Speaker 1 give it to us.

Speaker 4 I'll be the square of the room, and I will take Bill's Dolphins over.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's not square, that's fun. That's the fun guy in the fun.

Speaker 1 No, that's the fun guy in the room.

Speaker 8 Okay, Dolphins currently

Speaker 8 53 and a half.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 4 you're gonna take the Lunder, aren't you, Jay? Yep,

Speaker 8 knew it. Over 53 and a half.

Speaker 1 Over?

Speaker 8 No, that's. I was reiterating Max.
It's Falcons Jaguars, under 43.5.

Speaker 1 Okay. Blunder.
Okay.

Speaker 4 I'm going to take the Broncos Bears over.

Speaker 1 I wanted it. That's right.
46 and a half.

Speaker 8 46 and a half.

Speaker 4 Yeah, there's going to be some points.

Speaker 1 I really wanted it bad.

Speaker 4 I'll trade you. You can put together a package for me.

Speaker 1 Okay, I'll look at a package. Maybe we'll get a package together.
You're right.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Henry.

Speaker 4 Jags.

Speaker 1 Jags. Minus three.

Speaker 6 Fuck, I wanted that.

Speaker 8 Jaguars minus three against the Falcons

Speaker 1 yeah I wanted that too all right I will take uh the Cincinnati Bengals minus two and a half against the Titans I am the Bengal whisperer I hope that continues I'm three and oh in Bengal's games this year

Speaker 1 wouldn't be sick if you just picked one team you just went perfect

Speaker 4 that's what I'm trying to do with the Bengals you just need to bring back the coin where's the coin at this year yeah that's true the coin was perfect memesy

Speaker 4 did anybody take the buck saints over Nope, nope.

Speaker 1 No, James.

Speaker 8 39.5.

Speaker 1 I like that.

Speaker 1 I love it. A couple pick sixes in that game for somebody.
Okay.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 1 Vikings minus four and a half. Okay.
Vikings minus four and a half. Against the Panthers.

Speaker 1 This is tough.

Speaker 1 I will go with

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 1 Raiders Chargers over 48.5.

Speaker 1 I'm just going to bet this game so I know that that will be my bet. It's the 305 game.
So it's

Speaker 1 people are mad that we're saying Central Time now. It's the 405 game and

Speaker 1 that's the one where either PFT or someone else in the Spider or someone's like, hey, remember, there's a game coming up in three minutes. I'm like,

Speaker 1 over.

Speaker 8 So just set it up. Plus, with nine in the early slate, there's going to be some chaos.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Earlier. So that is how my brain works.
That's what's going to happen.

Speaker 4 Ravens, Browns, over 40 and a half.

Speaker 1 Ew. Yeah.
Ew. Yeah.
I don't think so. Gross.
Oh, yeah. I don't think so, pal.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 I don't think so. 40 and a half is low.

Speaker 1 A couple picks six, couple wonky plays.

Speaker 4 Defensive touchdown, special teams.

Speaker 1 These two teams know each other. Right.

Speaker 4 I think it's going to be close, maybe overtime. Right.
A lot of ways to get to 40 and a half.

Speaker 1 There is. Give me a couple.

Speaker 4 A couple defensive touchdowns.

Speaker 4 14. Three scores.
You give us scores. And then three touchdowns aside.
Give us scores. How do you get to 40 and a half? 21-20,

Speaker 4 17-23.

Speaker 1 23-17. No, that's under.
Oh, that's an under.

Speaker 4 24.

Speaker 4 41-0.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yep.

Speaker 4 39-2.

Speaker 1 Gami.

Speaker 4 Gami. Gami.

Speaker 4 15-19.

Speaker 1 What about 21-18?

Speaker 4 Wait, 15-19.

Speaker 1 15-19-94. Not even close.
Fuck. That's 34.
21-18?

Speaker 4 I'm concerned with you not being able to.

Speaker 1 I don't know how to do that. I crushed the football math.

Speaker 4 No, I crushed the football math when we did that.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 I think the Browns will win this game 24.

Speaker 1 27-13.

Speaker 1 What about 27-13?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 4 Okay. I just want to make sure how sharp.
24-21 Browns.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 PFT.

Speaker 4 I am going to take the Houston Texans plus three at home against the Sealers. I like it.
Going a home dog.

Speaker 1 I like it.

Speaker 1 Jake?

Speaker 8 Gonna be the square. Chiefs minus eight and a half.
Eight and a half now.

Speaker 4 Against the Jeff. It's probably smart.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Safe.

Speaker 1 Just

Speaker 1 if it's a 10-point game in the fourth quarter, do you feel good about Zach Wilson scoring? I don't. Memes, you don't.
You said he's ass.

Speaker 1 He's dude. All right.

Speaker 1 Max.

Speaker 7 Rams, I think it's a money line.

Speaker 1 I don't.

Speaker 1 Nope.

Speaker 12 What is it?

Speaker 1 Nope. Minus one.
Minus one. Minus one.

Speaker 1 Look at Max trying to steal

Speaker 1 from the cookie jar.

Speaker 1 Fine.

Speaker 8 Catch you. With AWL Daniel G and his Andrew Lack Luck tattoo in attendance.

Speaker 6 There we go.

Speaker 4 And Sean Payton knows the spread, so he's going to try to win this game.

Speaker 8 Sean McVay.

Speaker 4 Sean McVay. Also, Sean McVay.
Also, knows the spread.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Also, all the Sean's.
Okay, Fantasy Fuck Boys, and let's get to. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 8 Also, pancakes.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 8 Hank continues to dominate.

Speaker 1 Look at you, Hank.

Speaker 1 It's crazy. Can you name anyone on your team?

Speaker 1 either can. Yeah, I can.

Speaker 4 You have Trent Williams.

Speaker 1 I have Trent Williams. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I scroll up.

Speaker 1 Jake.

Speaker 8 20 for Hank. 12 for Max.
Big Cow with nine. Memes with nine.
Jake with four. PFT.
Jake with six. PFT with four.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.
Also, I think wings this week. Uber Eats.
Let's do it. Almost almost anything.

Speaker 6 Think of Uber Eats. Delivered by Uber Eats.

Speaker 1 Wings this week. Okay.

Speaker 1 Fantasy Fuck Boys.

Speaker 1 What it two fuckers, it's Romeo Romero.

Speaker 1 We're four out though. Romeo, y'all.

Speaker 4 My stardom this week is Ezekiel Elliott.

Speaker 1 Right, Max?

Speaker 4 That was a little sus. I hope you're gonna take an

Speaker 6 face fuck Jerry Jones geriatric body and fucking dumbass.

Speaker 4 I hope somebody takes a gift of what Hank just did with his hand in his mouth because it's not gonna be pretty.

Speaker 4 by sit him kurt shilling piece of fucking shit respect hippa you fucking dirtbag dirt oh yeah that was a fucked up thing piece of fucking dirt that was fucked world series champ but piece of fucking dirt that was fucked love you tim wakefield

Speaker 4 love you timmy love you too and my sleeper is the ride a cup because it's gonna be going on when you're sleeping you get home from the bars you turn it on you fall asleep maybe it's still on when you wake up we had a fucking weird hours but you just sleep ride a cup, golf.

Speaker 4 What time are you getting back from the time are you getting back from the bars, Romeo?

Speaker 1 12, 12, 1-2.

Speaker 4 I'm pretty sure it starts at like 3, 3, 4 a.m. Okay, you're gonna have to go to another bar, late night bar.

Speaker 1 Oh, I got a late night spa, maybe a strip club. You never know.
Hang up.

Speaker 4 Golf bar.

Speaker 1 Yes. All right.
All right.

Speaker 4 Hey, what's up, dickheads? It's me, Marco Simone.

Speaker 1 Marco.

Speaker 4 I'm starting this weekend. Commander Biden.
Commander Biden, that fucking dog. Yeah.
Bit a 12th

Speaker 1 Just

Speaker 4 putting up great stats, all-time stats. This dog is the best biter of all time.
He's got that dog in him.

Speaker 6 He's a Will Chamberlain a dog.

Speaker 4 That's right. I'm sitting Pat Riley.
That's right. I'm sitting Pat Riley, the godfather.
He's lost the step. Couldn't close the deal.
Pat, dame over.

Speaker 1 You couldn't get it done. Oh, he said dame over.

Speaker 4 Dame over, bitch.

Speaker 1 He said dame over.

Speaker 4 And your show got canceled. You know what I mean? Yeah, and your show's canceled.

Speaker 1 And your show's canceled, you bitch. Dame over.

Speaker 4 My sleeper, I'm sleeping the first half of the Jags Falcons game. I'm going to wake up for it, but I'll probably snooze just a little bit while I'm watching it.

Speaker 4 We got Arthur vs. Doug.
What is this game going to be on ESPN or Cartoon Network?

Speaker 1 Oh!

Speaker 1 But up shh.

Speaker 4 Except one of those was on PBS, the other one was on Nickelodeon, you know.

Speaker 1 Fucking Laura.

Speaker 1 Shut the fuck up, Romeo. Shut the fuck up, Romeo.

Speaker 4 It was a joke about cartoons, you bitch.

Speaker 4 You don't know what a cartoon is. You don't even know what a fucking lighthouse is.
I fucking love Arthur.

Speaker 4 You're making me do the fist right now.

Speaker 1 What's up, fuckers? It's Salvatore Fettuccini.

Speaker 6 Hey, what's up? SF. Sal, Sal.

Speaker 1 My stardom is Lighthouses. We got all the way through the podcast.
I'll mention the Lighthouse, but I really want to talk about a Lighthouse. But

Speaker 4 Romeo just brought it up a second ago.

Speaker 1 Romeo did bring it up, but I had already had that as my stardom.

Speaker 4 You're gaslighting him just like you gaslit Max the other day, you fucker.

Speaker 1 You did gaslight Max the other day.

Speaker 4 That was fucked up, PFA.

Speaker 1 ACL Tim Max never said that.

Speaker 1 Gaslit me. He never said that.
Never said that. My sit him is Daryl Maury.
He's a fat, big, fat liar. That's what James Harden had on his body.
He had big, fat, liar signs all over the place.

Speaker 4 I don't, listen, he might be big and he might be a liar, but I don't think he's that fat.

Speaker 1 He might not have said fat. He said Daryl Maury is a liar.
I might have put that in there.

Speaker 4 I stand behind James Harden.

Speaker 6 Yeah, my sleeper

Speaker 1 is

Speaker 1 Captain Luke Donald from the Ryder Cup European team. He was asked today in the press conference, what's it like sleeping with the enemy? Because he's got an American wife.

Speaker 4 Oh, he's got a little.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you don't come take our pussy and then try to fucking beat us in golf.

Speaker 6 Hands off. Do you like our holes or do you not like our holes?

Speaker 1 Yeah, what the fuck, brother? I can't believe that someone has that.

Speaker 1 That's all time.

Speaker 4 Max and no, no, it's Max and Butt, Brian Armin, mega team. Mega team.
Max isn't Mega Corp, though, Hank. I know, but it's

Speaker 4 Mega.

Speaker 1 It's Mega. Okay.
Out of Cup's going to be fun.

Speaker 4 I'm so confused about the formats for it. Me too.
So they put out

Speaker 4 the first four today. Yeah, what? Is Brooks off the ball? Is Brooke, did he get benched? What's going on? I guess he's playing in the afternoon.

Speaker 1 I don't know. He's playing in the four-ball.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 4 He's playing in the four-ball.

Speaker 12 What's the four-ball?

Speaker 8 In four-ball, each member of a two-man team plays his own ball, so four balls are in play on every hole.

Speaker 8 Each team counts the lowest of its two scores on each hole, and the team who has the player with the lowest score wins the the hole.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. And then what's

Speaker 4 playing by himself, basically?

Speaker 8 There's foursomes, which is each team playing one ball per hole.

Speaker 1 Alternate shot?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, alternate shot.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 8 But they label it foursomes and then singles.

Speaker 12 All singles matches.

Speaker 1 Wait, so is Brooks playing on Friday?

Speaker 4 He is, but I think he's playing in the afternoon. Got it.
I don't know.

Speaker 8 I'm not fully certain either, but I saw those four announcements, and he wasn't on there.

Speaker 1 Okay. Nice.
Brooks is going to dominate me after that.

Speaker 4 And Max, this is a home track as an Italian.

Speaker 1 Yep, and not a P.

Speaker 1 Nope. We can't say that.
Nope.

Speaker 4 Trust me, there's plenty of bigger perverts in Italy than Max Home.

Speaker 4 R.I.P.

Speaker 1 Silvio Berlusconi.

Speaker 1 The goat. The goat pervert.

Speaker 4 He was to perverts what commander is to dogs. Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 The goat pervert. All right.

Speaker 1 Let's get to our great interview with Booger McFarland. By the way, my

Speaker 1 electricity cut out in the last five minutes, so I joined back in, but that's why I probably sound different for the last question, the Roback question. So my apologies.
Give it up for Chicago.

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Speaker 1 Okay, here he is, Booger McFarland.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, one of our favorite guests in the entire world. It is Booger McFarland talking football.

Speaker 1 We have a lot of things we want to ask you, but we have to start.

Speaker 1 With this Sunday, are you calling? You're calling the London game, but you're doing it a little different way. Is that right?

Speaker 10 Yeah, doing the Tour Story version. So this is going to be

Speaker 10 a fun deal because I've never been a cartoon. And so for the first time, I get to be animated.
And so you're going to see and hear animated boog

Speaker 10 also

Speaker 10 calling football. So it's going to be fun, man.

Speaker 1 So are you in

Speaker 1 the suit that they give you? Because I'm actually very excited. I'm going to try to test this out and see if my kids will watch football with me via the animation.

Speaker 1 Are you gonna be in like one of those live-action green suits with the balls on it? Because I mean, we're just watching right now.

Speaker 1 If people are watching on the YouTube, Boog has already had to towel off his face and his torso.

Speaker 1 Are you in trouble with this suit? I'm worried about you. Well,

Speaker 10 first of all, I'm worried about myself. I've already told them that the AC needs to be at like 62 because I got to be in this suit, first of all, as you said.

Speaker 10 And they said it takes about 30 to 40 minutes to get in the suit and put all the little balls on it. And I'm saying to myself,

Speaker 10 why does it take 30 to 40 minutes? Is it that they were like, well, it's a little tight. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
I said, first of all, Bull gonna do tight. Like, I don't wear spandex.

Speaker 10 Like, it's something I just don't do. They're like, no, but it's very breathable.

Speaker 10 And I'm like, really, guys? They're like, yeah. And so the dude that did the NATL version, he was telling me about it.
And he said that the suit is actually very comfortable.

Speaker 10 I said, dude, you're 6'170.

Speaker 10 everything is comfortable for you okay i'm six one two eight i said i i need like i need ac i need the studio like on 62 so i've already told them the studio's got to be very cold but uh i'm excited it's the first time i'll i'll be motion captured and the first time i'll be animated so um i don't know how it's gonna look hopefully the facial features resemble kind of a cartoon character um hopefully not fat albert maybe somewhere in between you know that's kind of what i'm hoping

Speaker 1 so it's it's going to be fun.

Speaker 4 I remember watching the NHL broadcast, and it was awesome. It was very fun to watch.
Have you thought about what you're going to do in case there's like a fight that breaks out on the field?

Speaker 4 Are we going to have like little Toy Story characters like hitting each other in the head with their helmets?

Speaker 10 Well, I'm hoping at that point, like we go to a commercial or something because the kids don't need to see that, obviously. Yeah.

Speaker 10 I don't know, man.

Speaker 10 Hopefully, they realize that we're in a situation where we're trying to promote something kid worthy and the Jags and the falcons will be on their best behavior yeah do you do you know what character you're going to be no so i'm going to be myself i'm not going to be a character so they're going to animate me as boog and then the guy drew carter is going to be himself and then all the jacksonville jaguar players and the falcons players are going to be themselves but the toy story characters are going to be in and around so like you're going to see slinky dog and you're going to see jesse and woody and mr and mrs potato head like they're going to be doing different things around the game but the actual people myself Drew, the Jaguars, the Falcons, their coaches, they're going to be themselves.

Speaker 4 I can't wait to see cartoon Arthur Smith.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's going to be great. Yeah,

Speaker 1 now I can tell my kids, like, I know, I know that guy who's talking to us on the TV. All right, so let's talk some football.

Speaker 1 You get credit, and this hurts me to start here, but you get credit because you were someone that I noticed was like, hey, Justin Fields isn't ready.

Speaker 1 It's not working right now. So tell me, is it over for Justin Fields with the Bears? And what you actually are seeing week in and week out with this Bears offense?

Speaker 10 Uh, number one, yes, it's over because I think we've seen a big enough sample size to know that there hasn't been enough improvement to say, I want to see more.

Speaker 10 And we can blame the offensive coordinator. Luke Getze is not great.
Like, he's not the second coming of Sean McVay or Sean Payton or some of these innovative guys like Andy Reid.

Speaker 10 But there are plays there to be made, and Justin Fields just doesn't make them. In the NFL, in order to be an average quarterback, you have to make the layups.
Like, you got to make your free throws.

Speaker 10 You got to make the layups. Those are Kirk Cousins type plays.
If you want to be special, you got to make turnaround threes like Steph Curry. That's Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen.

Speaker 10 Well, Justin Fields struggles to make layups and free throws. And those are the things that concern me.

Speaker 10 If you can't make the layups and the free throws, then I'm not concerned that you can make the Alliou dunk. Like the Alleyuke dunk is what we all see when he does

Speaker 10 the runs and he goes for 60 and it's on Sports Center, and everybody's like, There we go, Justin Fields. And I'm like, okay, you can't survive like that.
Look at Frey Lance.

Speaker 10 Like, anytime a quarterback is living by running the football, that quarterback can't survive. So I've seen enough.
I just don't think that in Chicago it's going to work.

Speaker 10 And the fans have probably seen enough. That's why I don't think bringing a new coordinator is going to change.
I mean, let me ask you. You're the biggest Chicago fan I know.

Speaker 10 Would you be willing to see more of Justin Fields if there were a different coordinator?

Speaker 1 No, no, and I think you nailed it. Like, it is, I root for the guy.
I wanted the guy to be good.

Speaker 1 He seems like an awesome, awesome dude, but I think it's a combo of broken all around. So, I'm not, I don't put all the blame on him, but I also am realistic now.

Speaker 1 I wasn't before the season started. I'm realistic now that the progression that you needed to see just isn't there.

Speaker 1 And if the Bears are going to be as bad as they look right now, which I think they will be for the rest of the season, you have a chance to draft someone in a Caleb Williams or Drake May that you can't pass up and just say, oh, well, hopefully Justin Fields will figure it out.

Speaker 1 And so, yeah, unfortunately, I think it's over.

Speaker 1 And I think that you have to start looking to the next thing and understand like the biggest mistake you could make right now, if you're the Bears, is making a mistake and then extending the mistake.

Speaker 1 And being like, well, we'll fix even more because

Speaker 1 it's a mistake. It's already fucked up the Bears this year.

Speaker 1 So figure out a way to move on from that. It's kind of like the Cardinals with Josh Rosen.
They're like, hey, this isn't working out. We got to go get Kyler Murray.
And they did that a year later. So

Speaker 1 figuring out a way out of a mistake is almost as important as

Speaker 1 realizing that the mistake is there and not telling yourself that you can continue down this road.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I think you said a lot there to basically agree with me, and I definitely appreciate that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I do agree with you.

Speaker 10 And I said, I give you credit because you were saying it before the season, and you were honest about it and and i appreciate your honesty i obviously was a fool and blinded by uh faith and hope well if you remember in the preseason he threw the couple of screen passes one to dj moore one to the running back they went like 70 yards and everybody's like justin fields mvp yep and i'm like i mean i can throw the screen pass and i can't play quarterback worth a damn so like i i wasn't uh wowed by that at the end of the day guys it's really simple like judging a quarterback uh isn't hard, but it is hard.

Speaker 10 If you're a fan at home, ask yourself this. Can my quarterback make good decisions? Is he accurate with the football? And can he deliver the football on time?

Speaker 10 If your quarterback can't do those three things, it doesn't matter what else he can do. If he can't do those three, at the end of the day, you don't really have a quarterback.

Speaker 10 It's why Chad Pennington could play in the NFL for a long time because he was accurate and he made good decisions. Chad Pennington couldn't throw it through a wet paper bag.

Speaker 10 He couldn't. He ran like five flat and afforded it, but it doesn't matter because he was accurate and he made really good decisions.
So he played in the NFL.

Speaker 10 Justin Fields can't do that consistently enough.

Speaker 4 So another quarterback that has trouble with, I would say, all three of those facets of the game, maybe more, would be Zach Wilson.

Speaker 4 And it's gotten to the point where now teams...

Speaker 4 like opposing defenses when they get ready to face them have to hold back laughter when talking about who they're going up against and what they have to prepare for.

Speaker 4 And I'm sure you saw that clip, but it's like you don't want to give the other guy bulletin board material, and you've been coached to not give him bulletin board material, but everything that you say can't help but be a knock against their passing offense.

Speaker 4 So you've been on some pretty good defenses in the past. You've had some average quarterback play that you've been around sometimes where the defense was like expected to carry the team.

Speaker 4 What's that like in the locker room when you have a great defense and then everybody knows that the quarterback might not be the guy that's, you know, he's not playing up to the same level as the D.

Speaker 4 So the D is going to be expected to carry everything. What's that like in the locker room?

Speaker 10 Well, first and foremost, as a defense, you better be sharp every day. Like you better come to work every day and be ready to dot the I's and cross the T's.
You better be on your job.

Speaker 10 Second thing is you try to encourage the quarterback. And as long as the quarterback is doing everything he can do, I can live with the mistakes.
Here's what I mean by that.

Speaker 10 I mean, he's saying the right thing in the media. He's coming to work on time.
I see him in the film room. I see him working hard in practice.
I see him doing everything he possibly can.

Speaker 10 And then if you still suck, then guess what?

Speaker 10 At least I know you're doing doing everything you can and all i want you to do is just give me everything you got because that's all you can do now it's up to the coaches and the general manager to put somebody else out there but as long as you're out there you got to give me everything you got and so i'm going to tell you hey man we believe in you i i want you to continue to work hard now where the defense really starts to look at the guy sideways is kind of the reason we we're in this situation.

Speaker 10 If you remember last year, Zach Wilson got to the podium and said it wasn't his fault. Well, if it's not your fault, then whose fault fault is it, big guy?

Speaker 10 And that's when a defensive player is going to look at him like, hey, dude, like, you just lost us the game. Accept responsibility so we can move on.
And so I think Zach learned from that.

Speaker 10 And I think that's the reason why Aaron Rodgers was in New York in the first place is because they realized Zach wasn't ready.

Speaker 10 So I really don't think it's Zach's fault that Zach is back in this situation again.

Speaker 10 I think it's the Jets' fault that they decided to make Zach the number two, realizing or hoping that Aaron Rodgers was going to make it through the entire season.

Speaker 10 But defensively, you got to be ready to dominate, man. Like, John Gruden got to Tampa, and he told us, Hey, you guys think you're a great defense.

Speaker 10 We said, Yeah, he's like, Here's the one thing you guys don't do. Y'all don't score touchdowns.
So, guess what we did that year? We scored nine touchdowns on defense.

Speaker 1 That's what we did.

Speaker 10 It's really like you got to be able to do more as a defense. And so far, the Jets defense hasn't done enough.
If you look at the Dallas Cowboy game, they gave up a ton of points.

Speaker 10 If you look at the Patriot game, they gave up Sauce Gardner, gives up a big play to the tight end down the seam. That was his responsibility.

Speaker 10 So we can't point fingers at the quarterback when we're not doing our job. That's what I would say to my defense if we're in that locker room.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we're not scoring touchdowns either.

Speaker 1 Look at the man in the mirror.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's what has to happen at this point. It's like the defense has to become your offense.
You just big guy, Zach Wilson, too.

Speaker 1 I like that. That means a lot.

Speaker 4 Yeah, listen, big guy.

Speaker 4 It seems like he, you can, what you can say about Zach Wilson is he is doing like the small stuff. I think it seems like his teammates like him this season.

Speaker 4 Last year might have been a different story when he was allocating blame, but this year it seems like his teammates like him. So you're right.
It's not, I don't think it's Zach's fault anymore.

Speaker 4 Zach is who he is.

Speaker 4 It's the team's fault for not getting somebody else and then recognizing, like Big Cat was talking about earlier, okay, we made a mistake.

Speaker 4 Let's move on from that mistake right now before it costs us the entire season.

Speaker 10 Yeah, and unfortunately for the Jets,

Speaker 10 and you talk about that comment. I think that was Willie Gay, the linebacker for the Chiefs.
Yeah. Like

Speaker 10 in that locker room, the Chiefs players are saying, hey, man, there's no no way we can lose to Zach Wilson unless we just absolutely go out there and screw it up.

Speaker 10 And so he's trying his best not to give them buttered boy material by saying that. That's why he caught himself and laughed and tried to kind of clean it up a little bit.

Speaker 10 But I mean, everybody knows that the Jets have to play a perfect game in order to compete with Kansas City Sunday night.

Speaker 10 That they got to play a perfect game, meaning they got to get SAC calls, fumbles on defense. They got to get a couple of turnovers from Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 10 And then Zach Wilson is going to have to hit Garrett Wilson over the top for a couple of bombs. They might need a special teams touchdown.

Speaker 10 And even if they get all of that, it still might not be enough, just because that's how good Patrick Mahomes is.

Speaker 1 So from your experience, both playing and then covering the game and talking to guys, how tense does it get between a defense and an offense on the same team?

Speaker 1 Because I think that is something that the casual fan might not realize, that you're on the same team, but you don't really like...

Speaker 1 Guys aren't like mingling as much as you think when it comes to defense and offense. You're kind of staying with your group, your position group, your side of the ball.

Speaker 1 How tense does it get when the defense, if they start scoring touchdowns, if they, you know, 15, giving up 15 points to the Patriots, you should be able to win an NFL game if you only throw 15 points.

Speaker 1 So, at what point do you think that tension starts to bubble over where it's like, you guys aren't doing your job, we're doing ours, this is bullshit?

Speaker 10 It only gets tense when the offense starts to make comments. Meaning, if the offense is humble and they're quiet and they're like, hey, man,

Speaker 10 you know,

Speaker 10 we're not pulling our end of the bargain here, and we're going to go out and we're going to continue. Like, if they continue to have confidence and continue to go out and work hard, then

Speaker 10 it doesn't bother the defense.

Speaker 10 But if the offense starts to kind of pop off a little bit, starts to not work hard in practice, starts to be late to a meeting or two, and they say something in the media like, hey, yeah, I know we're not playing well, but I mean, our defense gave up 21.

Speaker 10 At that point, that's when the divisive atmosphere starts to be created because everybody knows the obvious, like, we're all human, but we're going to support our teammates as long as our teammates understand, hey, we're not doing our job and be humble about it.

Speaker 10 Like, just don't be an asshole and say, hey, man,

Speaker 10 y'all got to do more as a defense. Right now, we're not very good offensively.
Okay, well, duh, we already know that. But don't come out and put us on blast if we make a mistake or two.
Prime example.

Speaker 10 Let's just say if,

Speaker 10 and I'm not saying this happened, but for example, if Garrett Wilson would have said, man, we could have beat the New England Patriots if only Sauce Gardner doesn't give up that play.

Speaker 10 At that point, like, those are fighting words.

Speaker 10 Those are words that cost us the next day of practice when we're going to come in and we're like, hey, man, like, it's going to be a lot of tension in that locker room.

Speaker 10 I don't think the Jets have that now. I think Robert Sala understands.
He's a defensive coach also. So let's not forget.
It's not like you have an offensive coach running this team.

Speaker 10 You have a defensive coach that understands. My defense has to be held to a higher standard.
And just, you know, for disclosure, he knows knows that. Like, I've talked to Kosala.

Speaker 10 He knows his defense has to play better. And he said they will.

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Speaker 1 All right, so I'm happy we had you on because probably the hottest story this week in the NFL is the tush push, the Eagles tush push.

Speaker 1 Two-part question. One, do you have any problem with the play? And two, as a

Speaker 1 defensive player and watching defenses, how the hell do you stop it?

Speaker 10 I do not have a problem with the play.

Speaker 10 However, it is a contradictory play because they told us we couldn't couldn't push the defenders on defense when it's time to block a field goal. Like they told us we couldn't do that.

Speaker 10 So it's okay for the offense to push the quarterback, but as a defender, we can't push the tackles to go block the field goal. So it's so contradictory about the NFL.

Speaker 10 I don't have a problem with it. I believe football is hard, and if something is working, it's your job as a defense to stop it.
Now, how do you stop it? It's really simple.

Speaker 10 I think that the defensive tackles have to get down very, very low and take out those offensive linemen.

Speaker 10 And then you have to have linebackers that are willing to come over the top and with forearms and elbows and just go right at the quarterback.

Speaker 10 I'm not saying hit him in the head, but you're trying to go at his ribs, go at his throat, like hit the quarterback.

Speaker 10 The way you make the quarterback stop running is you physically assault him because he's a runner at that point. He's not a quarterback.
He's a runner. So you have to physically hit the dude.

Speaker 10 Understand that. if you physically hit him and you and you bring bodily harm, then he'll tell his coach, hey man, like we might want to cancel that.

Speaker 10 It's like Patrick Mahomes, he'll never run another quarterback sneak again, never,

Speaker 10 never.

Speaker 10 After he dislocated his kneecap, he'll never run another one again.

Speaker 10 And I'm not saying that you want to intentionally injure somebody, but you have to physically hit the quarterback.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Stephen Che, did you hear your boy Stephen Che? He went off on Jalen Hurts in the heat of the moment. He was like, I want him hurt.

Speaker 1 I want you to hurt him.

Speaker 4 And word got back to Steve to Jalen Hurts about it. He was not happy.
So Stephen Ch just gave Jalen Hurts bulletin board material.

Speaker 10 Well, that's not nice about Steve. By the way,

Speaker 10 I'm not familiar with Steven, but I see him in a lot of places, in a lot of forms, and he seems to be very popular. Kind of give me the origin of him, please.

Speaker 4 Well, he used to be one of our ad ops guys, and he was in charge of like, you know, telling us, okay, here's the ad read that you have to do at this point.

Speaker 4 And then he's become content where he's like a fantasy football guy.

Speaker 4 And he is, uh, he's like the embodiment of every guy that you would see in like a Buffalo Wild Wings fantasy football draft commercial. You know, like wears his jersey everywhere.

Speaker 1 He was built in a lab. He was built in a football lab.
He found out about Barstool because of the one time I went on Mike and Mike. So he like he found Barstool.

Speaker 1 He's like, wow, there's something other than ESPN.

Speaker 1 He doesn't think, he doesn't, like when we asked him, he didn't know that there was a war going on in Russia and Ukraine for like the first three months because Adam Schefter hadn't reported it.

Speaker 1 That's Stephen Che.

Speaker 10 Okay, enough see it. Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 He was like, why isn't there an Adam Schefter? But for like world events, and we're like, Stephen, you're talking about the news.

Speaker 4 Just watch the news, Steven.

Speaker 4 But yeah, it's a fun play. I like to play.
I say, keep running until it gets stopped and stop complaining about it because you can do it too on offense. And you're right.

Speaker 4 Like on defense, they call leverage, they call pushing. Like the rule should be both ways.
It should not just favor the offense on that one. But I had a question for you about Mac Jones.

Speaker 4 So it seems like there's enough body of evidence out there to say that Mac Jones loves hitting people in their penis. And he's done it like three times.

Speaker 4 He's tried to slide tackle guys in their nuts twice. And then he just reached out and hit sauce right in his sauce.
And it's pretty obvious that he's a dirty player.

Speaker 4 I don't think he's good enough to be dirty.

Speaker 4 And if I were on his team, especially if I were on defense, I would be pissed off because now it's open season on my penis because this guy won't stop touching other people's crotches.

Speaker 4 How do you feel about his play? And have you ever played with a player that has, you know, like goes over that line?

Speaker 10 Well, hopefully that I don't even really know how to, as a teammate, to respond to Mac.

Speaker 10 I don't even know how you start that conversation. Like, hey, man, are you okay? Like,

Speaker 10 that would be my first question.

Speaker 10 You know, guys who do that usually are guys that if a real fight broke out, they can't win. So they're looking for a way to end the fight early.
And so how do you end the fight early with a guy?

Speaker 10 Because if you hit any guy correctly in that spot, they're not fighting for at least one to two minutes. Okay.
So typically guys who go for the crotch

Speaker 10 are guys that are trying to avoid fisticuffs and avoid getting hit in the mouth. And they're trying to get away.
Now,

Speaker 10 because guys who really want to fight, guys don't do do that. Because guys who really want to fight don't go to that point.
They go up high where we can handle it like men.

Speaker 10 I don't know if Mac could win a fight. And so Mac is trying to continue what probably he's continued throughout his entire life.
Mac has probably been in a couple fights.

Speaker 10 And the way he ended those fights early, he just kind of gave the gal, you know, a nice little four fingers and a thumb to the place that no guy wants to get it, you know?

Speaker 1 Oh, man. It's, yeah, it feels like, it feels like it's happened more than a few times.

Speaker 1 Other defensive question I wanted to ask you, and we're going to find out on Sunday because the Bills do have a good defense. But how the fuck do you stop the Dolphins? They're so fast.

Speaker 1 Every time I watch them, it looks like we're in fast forward when they're on offense because it's just impossible to guard that type of team speed.

Speaker 1 So if you're a defensive coordinator, what the hell are you trying to figure out to stop this team?

Speaker 10 Well, it's amazing that you asked that question because I've faced a team like that. Remember the greatest show on Turf? Everybody said they couldn't couldn't be stopped.

Speaker 10 You know, Torrey Holt, Isaac Bruce, Marshall Falk, Ricky Pro, unstoppable. They're scoring 40.
It's the greatest show we've ever seen for

Speaker 10 50, what is it,

Speaker 10 three and a half quarter, actually until

Speaker 10 like five minutes left in the game. We held them to what, five points.

Speaker 1 Here's how you do it.

Speaker 10 99 NFC championship. And listen, and here's how you do it.
And I get it, the game has changed, and the game is a little different now. But essentially, the principles are the same.

Speaker 10 You can't give up the big play. I mean, you got to keep the ball in front of you.
All right.

Speaker 10 You have to disrupt the speed. Speed is only good when it's moving uninterrupted, if you follow me.
Okay.

Speaker 10 Imagine somebody running frack and they had to stop and start and run around things. They wouldn't be as fast.
So you got to interrupt the receivers. You got to bang them.
You got to hit them.

Speaker 10 You got to disrupt their routes. You got to disrupt the continuity of the offense.
That's how we beat the St. Louis Rams.
Okay. We weren't going to allow them to get in rhythm.

Speaker 10 And then at the end of the day, you hit the quarterback. All right.
Prime example. First play of the game.
Torrey Holt catches a slant. Derek Brooks hits him in the ribs and cracked his ribs.

Speaker 10 We didn't worry about Torrey Holt the rest of the day. All right.

Speaker 10 So at that point, the greatest show on turf knew it was going to be business. And it wasn't a dirty hit.
It was a shoulder into the ribs and he cracked his ribs and he was coughing up blood.

Speaker 10 And so we beat the hell out of him physically, man. The Dolphins are kind of like the Golden State Warriors, man.

Speaker 10 Like they want to get out and fast break and no look three and you know, no look shovel pass. Man, make it a fist fight.

Speaker 1 Hit them in the mouth.

Speaker 10 Like hit the quarterback. The one thing Tua has not had happen to him this year, he hasn't been hit in the mouth.
Their offensive line isn't great.

Speaker 10 It's better than it's a little bit above average, but it's not great. And so I think when they go against the upper echelon teams that can rush the passer with four guys, Philadelphia, San Francisco,

Speaker 10 even the Rams to a certain point. And I know this sounds crazy, but the Rams can pressure you with four guys.

Speaker 10 Like when you can pressure that offense with four dudes, we're not going to see the same offense. And let's remember, let's remember that Bill Belichick had that offense in check on Sunday night.

Speaker 10 So I know we're going to go crazy because the Hapless Broncos give up 70. They're a really good team.
I don't think they're unstoppable.

Speaker 4 Yeah, what's crazy about the Dolphins team is not only do they have that speed on the outside, but it seems like their running game is really good too. Like, very, very good.

Speaker 4 And you talked about their offensive line. Is it just the scheme? Is it the scheme that makes this rushing attack so good? Or could they, if they had to,

Speaker 4 if your receivers are getting banged up, if Tua is getting hit a lot, could they rely on just being a running team and be pretty good offensively?

Speaker 10 Yeah, they could because of the scheme that they run.

Speaker 10 It's a zone-based scheme that they do a lot of motion.

Speaker 10 They get a lot of different,

Speaker 10 they out-leverage you with a lot of different angles. And let's not forget, Mike McDaniel was the run game coordinator in San Francisco before he got the job.

Speaker 10 So his major, so to speak, is running the football. So they can run the football with the best of them.
And those backs are so fast, they're not running your typical power plays.

Speaker 10 Like they want to get those backs going downhill, one cut and go. So yeah, like they are really, really good.

Speaker 10 But the NFL has always been a copycat league. Like, this is nothing we haven't seen before.

Speaker 10 Anytime you look at offensive football, like the greatest Sean Turf might be the best offense that I've ever seen, where you have Hall of Fame back, Hall of Fame quarterback, Hall of Fame receiver.

Speaker 4 Like, it's, I mean, you got guys that are all world.

Speaker 10 Like, they're not that, but they got a lot of fast dudes that people have yet to figure out. I don't have to be afraid of their speed.

Speaker 10 I need to, like, speed is one of those things where you don't back up off of it. You got to get in speed's face.
Okay, like, you got to get up on it and disrupt it a little bit.

Speaker 10 And people are scared to play it that way.

Speaker 1 I like that. Get that on the cold card, yeah.
Get in speed's face.

Speaker 4 It sounds to me like you're saying that the dolphins might not be built for winter weather.

Speaker 10 Um,

Speaker 10 I don't know if they are built for a physical matchup in winter weather. Uh, we'll see.
I don't know if the cold weather has anything to do for to do with it. I think it has to do with

Speaker 10 is there a team that's going to make them feel

Speaker 10 like the game is kind of mucked up. And will the weather player factor in that? Sure, it can.

Speaker 10 But it's more important for that team to kind of make them feel like, okay, prime example: it would be like the Golden State Warriors going against the Bad Boy Pistons. Like,

Speaker 10 that's how you need to play Miami. Like, you need to be physical with them.
You need Rick Mahorn just kind of slapping the hell out of somebody.

Speaker 10 Like, you need all that going on to disrupt what they do.

Speaker 1 What's a team that has surprised you through three weeks, good or bad? Good or bad?

Speaker 10 Good.

Speaker 10 How good the Arizona Cardinals are playing and how much they're fighting.

Speaker 10 I mean, think about this, guys. They didn't get their quarterback until like two weeks before the season started.
I know. Everybody's like, hey, they're going to start Clayton Toon.
Nope.

Speaker 10 They'll start Josh Dobbs. He just got here.
I don't even know if he has a place to stay. They didn't even have his jersey in the team store and he's a starting quarterback.
Yeah.

Speaker 10 So, like, that's been a surprise.

Speaker 10 How bad the Broncos are, like Sean Payton. I mean, that's

Speaker 10 Sean Payton has spent a lot of time worrying about a lot of things besides football here lately, and it's kind of coming back to vitamin, you know what?

Speaker 10 How bad the Vikings are. You know, it's amazing how last year the Vikings were, what, 11-0 and one-score games, and this year they can't win one.
Yeah.

Speaker 10 And, you know, all the rumblings about Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 10 So, yeah,

Speaker 10 the New York Giants. Playing through early on, it's almost like they're trying to validate the contract or lack thereof from Saquon because they were playing through Daniel Jones a little bit.

Speaker 10 That's kind of a surprise. I know Brian Dayboard.
I think he'll get that fixed, but it's still early, man.

Speaker 10 Like, kind of like baseball, people say you look up at Memorial Day and then you kind of know who's good. Well, in football, you kind of look up at Halloween and you kind of figure out who's good

Speaker 10 and who you can count on. And I think we're still starting to figure that out.
Prime example. Like, the Bengals are one and two.

Speaker 10 Is anybody ready to write the Bengal off?

Speaker 1 Definitely not. I'm ready to put a future on them.
I'm ready to put a future on them to win the Super Bowl. Yeah.

Speaker 10 Well, that might be a bit much. Okay, but it's still early.
That's my point. It's still early.

Speaker 4 Are we officially writing the charges off? Because I saw your tweet the other day. You said, Brandon Staley, sir, you served him.

Speaker 1 Brandon Staley, sir.

Speaker 4 You are one incompetent coach. I don't care what happens for the rest of the game.
Anytime you sur a guy, that's basically saying, like, I hate your guts. So

Speaker 10 how bad is he man like come on man seriously like how many times how many times does he have to hit 19 in blackjack for us to say this guy can't get it done like come on dude like at some point

Speaker 10 i get the analytics but man come on dude like and and on top of that like forget the analytics let's just say you believe in what he's doing all right what is his specialty supposed to be defense And their defense is terrible.

Speaker 10 Awful.

Speaker 4 They can't hit the quarterback. They can't get to the quarterback.
And that's what the team was like, it was based on in the past couple of years. Obviously, Herbert is a very, very good quarterback.

Speaker 4 They've got weapons at running back, weapons at wide receiver. They should be on paper a great team, but now the defense isn't getting it done, and you're taking these same chances.

Speaker 1 And yeah, I kind of agree with you.

Speaker 4 I think he put himself firmly, firmly on the hot seat. Like he should be fired after that game, regardless of the fact that they won.

Speaker 10 I don't know how he made it to this year because Sean Payton reportedly wanted that job and he didn't, you know, he wanted Justin Herbert and not Russell Wilson, which you can't blame him for that.

Speaker 10 But they decided to keep him. And now the Chargers are one and two.
And, you know, he's still standing behind some of those decisions he's making.

Speaker 10 I don't know how, especially losing Mike Williams, and I get it.

Speaker 10 I get what's going on. They got Quentin Johnson, the big receiver out of TCU, to take Mike Williams' place.
But man,

Speaker 10 something's missing with the Chargers. Like, they always have all the talent, the powder blues.
Everybody gets excited. But, like, Joey Bosa hasn't been great lately.

Speaker 10 Khalil Mack hadn't really heard from him since he left Chicago, big cat.

Speaker 10 I mean, like, what's going on? Like, it just seems like something is amiss out there.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
They're the Chargers. That's kind of what it is.
We just put our hands up and like, they're the Chargers. That's how they're going to lose these games.

Speaker 1 College football, real quick, because you do a lot of college football.

Speaker 1 Take out Georgia. Who's winning the national title? Who's your team? I mean, it's been, I think it's been one of the best seasons so far through one month with Dion, the Pac-12, everything.

Speaker 1 So many storylines. But what team do you have your eyes on? It's like that team's going to win the national title, not name Georgia.

Speaker 10 I don't know if Georgia's going to win it, number one.

Speaker 10 I like that.

Speaker 10 Well, Texas is really good. Their defense.
I think Texas has probably the most impressive win of the season going into Tuscaloosa beating Alabama. Florida State's legit.

Speaker 10 I just think that they're tough. They're gritty.

Speaker 10 They got a quarterback that's been there and done done that um mike norvell uh it's amazing and he was left for dead and how he used the transport for to come back so florida state's good um

Speaker 10 usc i don't know if they can stop a nosebleed until i see their defense play a little bit better and i know it's played better this season but i got to see it a little bit more consistently

Speaker 10 you talk about a future big cat i'm going to give you one and and and i want you to go put I don't know, put whatever you want to put on it and me and you'll share it

Speaker 10 on the Washington Huskies.

Speaker 1 Already did. Already did.
20 to 1.

Speaker 4 You get a cut.

Speaker 10 Perfect. Michael Pennix is legit.

Speaker 10 I think their schedule is very favorable.

Speaker 10 They're going to score 40 on everybody.

Speaker 10 And I just think nobody's going to pay attention to them. Now,

Speaker 10 everybody's going to point to the last time we saw Washington.

Speaker 10 And Alabama beat them with 28-0 or whatever back in the Peach Bowl in Atlanta.

Speaker 10 Two things. One, I think they're so much better now.
And two, I don't think there's a team as physically dominant as that Alabama team was then.

Speaker 10 So this is the most wide open season we've ever seen in college football.

Speaker 10 I think there's six or seven teams that can win it.

Speaker 10 Ohio State, they got a lot of flash, but I thought what Lou Holt said, even though Ryan Day, you know, he went crazy. I'm not sure why, but there was some validity.

Speaker 10 Think about the last couple of times Michigan has won, they physically beat him up at the line of scrimmage. Like they have rushed for like 200 200 yards.

Speaker 10 So there's some validity to what Lou Ho said, even though Ryan Day kind of, you know, took a little, took offense to it. So I got to see what Ohio State does when they get against a physical team.

Speaker 10 I mean, who else? I mean, Oregon,

Speaker 10 are you really a believer in Bo Knicks? I don't know.

Speaker 1 This is the year.

Speaker 10 Well, okay. So was the last couple.

Speaker 1 I know, I know. I know.
It's been great, though.

Speaker 1 You're right. There are so many good teams right now.

Speaker 1 Are you a Dion believer?

Speaker 1 He's the lightning rod of college football through one month.

Speaker 1 Do you think that we've given too much praise to him?

Speaker 1 Because it does feel,

Speaker 1 it's a story that we see all the time in sports. Media builds someone up, and then if they lose, media breaks them down.
I have trust in Dion.

Speaker 1 I think he's building something that is going to be phenomenal in a couple of years here. But do you have any coach prime fatigue?

Speaker 10 No, because, I mean my company is the one that kind of has all the

Speaker 10 commercials running and all that so I mean I don't have fatigue because like I get it I understand what's going on

Speaker 10 Dion took a team that was what one and 11 he's already won what three games what is he three and one three and two I can't remember what his record

Speaker 1 yeah three and one

Speaker 10 probably not looking great to be win this weekend so let's just say he's three and two and then there are a bunch of winnable games after that um

Speaker 10 Dion takes if I told you before this season, he takes a 1-11 team to a bowl game, what would everybody say? Everybody would be like, oh, there's no way.

Speaker 10 People will be ecstatic because nobody envisioned that. So I think that's what's going to happen.
I think Colorado goes to a bowl game. I think Dion is great for college football.

Speaker 10 And I think the reason why some people are bothered is because he does it a different way. He does it.
the untraditional way.

Speaker 10 See, we're used to the Sabin press conference and, hey, guys, here's what we're doing.

Speaker 10 We're not used to the coach coming up with the shades on we're not used to a coach asking for theme music we're not used to a coach having so many celebrities around like that's just that goes against the old guard man and that's the reason people don't like it because think about what college football is built on tradition passion the grove tiger stadium you know like all these things that college football is built on Dion is is making things new okay so Saturdays are different now okay Saturdays Saturdays start different.

Speaker 10 Like Saturdays, Saturdays now, hey, they start early in the morning with Big Cat teasing America with his donuts. And then they move to Lee Corso

Speaker 1 putting on a head.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm just saying.

Speaker 10 It starts with you with the donuts.

Speaker 10 It starts with you with the donuts and you teasing America every week, like, hey, hey, America, let's have a day. And America knows that you're trying to be healthy, but you keep teasing America.

Speaker 1 And then we move to Corso.

Speaker 10 Corso puts puts the hat on and he goes, he goes ape shit crazy. And then at that point, away we go.
So that's how my Saturdays always go.

Speaker 1 And people,

Speaker 10 people always come to me like, hey,

Speaker 10 are you going to get your boy under control? I'm like, listen, he's a grown man. He's a father of three.
I try to do everything I can, but there's really nothing else I can do.

Speaker 10 And so that's what Saturdays have become. And Dion is just a part of that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's a tradition unlike any other.

Speaker 4 Like, I love when Ralphie comes running out, too.

Speaker 4 That's one of my favorite traditions in sports when they just turn the buffalo loose on the field and they're like, okay, just go run around for a while. Hopefully nobody gets hurt this time.

Speaker 1 Did you know Ralphie was a female? Yes. Yes.
Because

Speaker 1 you couldn't control a male in that sense.

Speaker 4 Ralphie's a girl boss. Yeah.

Speaker 10 I didn't know that until like a couple weeks ago when we had

Speaker 10 so much content on Dion, we were discussing the

Speaker 10 gender of the buffalo.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no,

Speaker 4 she's definitely a girl.

Speaker 4 Dion's going to have her coming out in like uggs at some point this year uggs with like a big chain on running around the field and i love dion he does get people talking about college football and then when coaches clap back at him then that's fair game too and it's good for everybody i think i also

Speaker 10 hold let me ask you this did you have a problem with what the oregon coach said because i thought it was first of all i i didn't have a problem with it second of all i thought it was great content that oregon put out the pregames uh pregame speech no problem whatsoever he was he was he was doing what his job as a head coach.

Speaker 4 You think he's going to fire his guys up in the locker room by being like, hey, guys, we all need to respect Deion Sanders and the program that he's building in Colorado.

Speaker 4 So let's go out there and we'll do our best. But I really hope for the sake of college football that Colorado is able to compete today.
No, fuck no. You're going to talk shit about your opponent.

Speaker 4 That's what you do.

Speaker 1 And on top of that, I love that Dan Lenning afterwards said, hey, thanks. Thank you, Colorado.
Like, people are talking about Oregon because of what Deion Sanders is doing. It's like a prize fight.

Speaker 1 You know, when there's one guy who's pushing the pay-per-views more than the other, and the other guy wins, he's like, I got to respond.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm not the pay-per-view guy, but now we got eyeballs watching our team and respecting our team. It's a symbiotic relationship that Deion's good for college football.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I completely agree, but I'm not going to let you get off that easy.

Speaker 10 Since we did mention the donuts, I always ask you this every time I'm on.

Speaker 10 How much weight have we lost since the last time I was on?

Speaker 1 Okay, so I actually have lost a little weight. PFT can attest this.
I'm eating, I'm trying to just eat eat a little bit less. So I am down to 243-ish in the morning.

Speaker 1 Walking around weight a little bit higher, but that's about seven pounds. So I'm on the road.
I'm on the road. I'm doing okay.

Speaker 4 He is doing better, but you know, things aren't in a good place when you answer the question by saying how much you weigh in the morning.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, I mean, listen, everyone knows this hack.

Speaker 1 Listen, I know what my walking around weight is, but I know that when I get on the scale, before I take a piss, before I drink water, I'm getting on the scale, taking off my shirt, taking off my watch, get as light as possible.

Speaker 1 That's my weight. Yeah,

Speaker 10 that's it. And first of all, it's not your true weight if you don't get naked.

Speaker 1 Like, I've never weighed at home with clothes on.

Speaker 10 Like, I literally go in the bathroom, I have a scale in the bathroom, and the first thing I do, and I don't weigh myself every day, I'm not at that point, but like

Speaker 10 probably twice a week, I'll go in the bathroom. I want to take a dump first.
That's number one.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 10 as soon as I finish that,

Speaker 10 I continue because i don't have my clothes on i take the dump naked i jump on the scale and i and i weigh myself and that is your true weight so what happens the rest of the day doesn't really count

Speaker 1 once you drink water doesn't count doesn't count i i do do the trick sometimes uh where i'll weigh myself at night with like my clothes on my phone in my in my pocket like maybe even put a dumbbell in my hand and be like oh well that's probably like 20 extra pounds i'm fine so i do that trick sometimes every now and then

Speaker 4 you got to get rid of all your fluids before you weigh in.

Speaker 10 Well, it's two things. Number one,

Speaker 10 I'm somewhat proud of you that you've lost some weight. Thank you.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 10 Hopefully, you continue. Now that you're a father of three, man, just think about it.

Speaker 10 By the time your kids get to be teenagers, you want to be able to walk around and run around and catch the football and shoot some basketball with them.

Speaker 10 So make sure that you keep that weight below 275.

Speaker 1 That's number one.

Speaker 10 And number two, and number two, I mean, I keep hearing about this stellar blue coffee, and I haven't had any.

Speaker 1 I'm a coffee guy. Wow,

Speaker 10 you said, please send me something. And I'm a coffee drinker.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 You're going to text me your address. I'm going to send you some right now.

Speaker 10 Because I don't drink Starbucks. And so

Speaker 10 I am a coffee guy. And most people like the coffee that's closest to my house is Dunkin' Donuts.
And it just, it's convenient.

Speaker 10 So I'll grab it but i want to try some of this stellar blue coffee man because your friend um

Speaker 10 have the utmost respect for what you've done with that brand and what you guys do and i want to support you man i think big cat froze out yeah i'll answer for big cat he's going to send you some coffee do you like do you like flavor do you like pumpkin spice do you like apple crisp or do you want just the the straight stuff big i want straight coffee like i don't need french vanilla like my wife drinks all that she's like hey get me a coffee four shots of french vanilla some caramel, some syrup on top.

Speaker 10 I'm like, this is not coffee anymore. This is a dessert.

Speaker 6 Booger, so you're, you're a workout maniac.

Speaker 4 You're banging waters all the time. You look like you're in good shape right now.
I'm always, I'm always looking at you. I'm like, damn, Booger, he looks more spelt.

Speaker 4 He looks more streamlined, aerodynamic than he did the last time. What's your diet like? What is Booger? Do you have a cheat day where you go nuts?

Speaker 10 Yeah, so I'll give you my entire week. Like, it's really simple.
Like, I don't eat breakfast in the morning. I drink, and it's kind of, I know you guys laugh at banging the waters.
So,

Speaker 10 the reason that I'm able to kind of get away with it is because I drink all my fluids first thing in the morning. And so, I'm drinking seven, eight bottles of water.

Speaker 10 Like, right now, I got some watermelon juice I'm drinking. I try to drink all my fluids before like one or two o'clock.
And I usually eat my first meal every day between two and three.

Speaker 10 And it's usually like protein and vegetables, whatever. And then, whatever my wife cooks or whatever we get for dinner, I eat that like at 7:30 or 8.
I'll eat that.

Speaker 10 My biggest issue is always late at night. And so I have to have something to snack on, you know, if I'm up at like 10 or 11.
And usually that's cashews or like some grapes.

Speaker 10 And I do that, man, when I'm at home,

Speaker 10 I do that every day. Now, when I go on a roll DSP, and it gets a little difficult,

Speaker 10 but I usually have a salad on Saturdays. And my cheat day or my cheat meal is Saturday night.
After I get done with Big Cats, donuts, Corso, Dion, I get done done with all that.

Speaker 10 Saturday night, I have a double cheeseburger wrap with bacon, sweet potato fries, and a side of calamari. That's what I eat usually Saturday night at 10 o'clock.

Speaker 1 My power went out. My power went out.

Speaker 10 It looks like your internet froze. Don't blame the power.
No, my power.

Speaker 1 The whole room.

Speaker 10 Exactly. Pay your bills.

Speaker 1 I'm over one plate. All right.

Speaker 4 I have one last question because my power went out.

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Speaker 1 Who's your Super Bowl champ, Boger?

Speaker 10 Super Bowl champ.

Speaker 10 San Francisco 49ers.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 10 it's going to be an amazing thing to see Debo and Trent Williams walk out next to the dude with the big boom box at the Super Bowl. That's going to be the most amazing show.

Speaker 10 Probably be a little bit better than Usher at halftime. By the way, tell me, first thought, when you heard Usher halftime, first thought

Speaker 4 should have been Miley Cyrus.

Speaker 1 Taylor Swift, not big enough to be the Super Bowl halftime performer.

Speaker 10 Well, she turned it down. That's number one.
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 Not big enough. I heard Goodell turned her down.

Speaker 10 Really? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yes, she's not big enough yet.

Speaker 10 Okay, not big enough yet. Okay, all right.

Speaker 10 Miley Cyrus, no, you know, Usher, I'm all for it.

Speaker 4 i i just when i first heard it i wasn't like wow here we go right usher isn't football some some musical artists are football and usher is just he's too smooth he's too like his songs they don't they don't fire me up to watch more football and miley cyrus does oh yeah oh yeah

Speaker 4 miley miley fires me up for a lot of stuff booger you seen her in that leather suit

Speaker 4 like artistically i'm not talking sexually or anything weird or creepy i'm very normal but in terms of like her music, she's got bangers.

Speaker 10 Yeah, okay. No,

Speaker 10 I haven't seen that, nor have I listened to much of her music, so I can't confirm or deny that.

Speaker 4 My friend, you would enjoy Miley. Just give her a shot.

Speaker 10 I will at some point. Hopefully, before I leave this earth, I will.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, Bug, thank you.
Sorry my power went out.

Speaker 10 Hey, man, it's all good. Always enjoy being on with you guys, man.

Speaker 10 Continue doing what you're doing. I'll shoot you that address.

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Speaker 1 Yeah, they're really good. I'm wearing it right now.
Got the t-shirt on right now. There we go.
Yep.

Speaker 4 This is a Roback right here, too. It's the only collared shirt I wear.

Speaker 10 Yeah. I'm just glad you have a shirt on with sleeves today.
That's first.

Speaker 4 That's number one.

Speaker 1 I didn't want to show you up.

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Speaker 1 The road trip might be over, but dinner's just getting good.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's wrap up. We have Fire Fest of the Week.
Henry,

Speaker 1 go for it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, my Fire Fest, this is kind of not, I mean, it's a little ongoing.

Speaker 4 It's happened a couple of times, but the parking situation at our office is one of the biggest rackets in modern American history. It is.
It is.

Speaker 4 You have to pay so much to park on the street. Sometimes the app doesn't work.
There's no max amount of parking, so you can only park for two hours. And

Speaker 4 the other day, I set alarms. I'm like, all right, park, set an alarm for two hours.
So I can, because then you'd have to re-up, basically.

Speaker 4 So you end up paying like 30 bucks a day just to park, which is nuts. But it's only when you start, it's five bucks.
You're like, oh, five bucks for parking. And then you kind of forget.

Speaker 4 And the other day, my alarm went off. I think we were recording something.

Speaker 4 So I snoozed it. It went off.
20 minutes later, I remembered, went to go pay it, paid it, and then went out and saw I got a ticket. So I got a ticket in like a, in a 20-minute window.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're good about it.

Speaker 4 Which is insane.

Speaker 4 I've racked up about $300 worth of parking tickets.

Speaker 4 Someone told me that whoever built it or like the city or whoever.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we sold it.

Speaker 4 We sold it to someone. Yeah, Saudi.
To Saudi. That person got their money back within three years.
Everything they make is just profit.

Speaker 1 All-time boondoggle badges. It's nuts.

Speaker 1 Yeah. No,

Speaker 1 my problem is I always remember to set an alarm the first time. It's when I re-up.
I never set the second alarm. Right.

Speaker 1 So, yeah.

Speaker 1 Three more weeks. Three more weeks.
We're in our new office. We have parking.
It's going to be great. Three more weeks.
Three more weeks. Three more weeks.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I've gotten banged like three times.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they bang in your bag.

Speaker 4 When do they start putting the boot on? They start like immobilizing your car. You gotta get

Speaker 4 to not pay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right? Yeah.

Speaker 4 It sucks how easy to make it to pay, too. Like, I don't think it matters how many tickets you get as long as you pay them.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, true. That's facts.
Because you're basically just giving money. Speeding ticket on them is different.

Speaker 1 Yeah, speeding tickets are different. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. PFT?

Speaker 1 I got a couple Fire Fests this week.

Speaker 4 One is I mentioned the El Camino a second ago. I went to go look at an El Camino in person.
I had every plan on driving an El Camino home on Tuesday.

Speaker 4 I even bought a tape adapter that I could hook up to my iPhone so I could listen to music on the stereo because it only has a cassette player. It was a 1980.
I went, I saw it, and the salesperson.

Speaker 4 showed me around the car was beautiful he was like uh well the ac doesn't work and the radio doesn't work and i was like what about the heat? And he's like, what do you need to do about the heat for?

Speaker 4 It's not like you're going to be driving this thing in the wintertime. Oh, I told you this.
When it's snowing out. And I was like,

Speaker 4 yeah, you're right. Who in their right mind would do that? I was planning on this being my

Speaker 4 car car.

Speaker 1 This is the all-time VFD.

Speaker 4 And I was ready to drop a lot of money on an El Camino and drive it home. And that one little comment from him, I was like, am I really that stupid? Like, is this that dumb of an idea to have?

Speaker 1 Because I read online.

Speaker 1 You totally,

Speaker 1 like, whenever we make comments, you don't even take them in because we had this exact comment.

Speaker 4 No, but when it's the salesperson.

Speaker 1 Hank was there. I was like, I don't think that's going to be good for the winter.
I think I said this on the show.

Speaker 1 You're not getting an El Camino. Yeah, we don't register.

Speaker 4 When it's the salesperson who's earning a commission off the sale, being like, hey, you shouldn't buy this car, man. Like, please don't buy this car.
At that point, it becomes real to me.

Speaker 4 I was like, what if you put a couple sandbags in the back, like in the trunk? Doesn't that give it good traction? I actually take that as a compliment.

Speaker 1 It's true friendship to not listen to your friends, to only listen to strangers well when that is like a true thing where it's like ah that they don't know and then you get one person you're like oh when the stranger said that was a good point when the stranger said it i immediately flashed back to everybody who told me it was a bad idea and i was like wait maybe i'm not the uh smart one in this situation maybe everybody else that said the same thing is right so unfortunately i don't i think the dream well no the dream is still alive

Speaker 1 no it's when you get when you get to a point where you want of driving around summer car yeah a weekend a weekend driver yeah then where am i going to park it on the street yeah just get some just pay the tickets yeah that seems like it's going to be that's going to add up real quick but it was so bitching the car was so bitching no you know what you could do is you could what what what now i don't know get an el camino cars.com pf to get an el camino you you i'm sure that you can find someone who will rent out a parking spot or like a garage spot maybe in the suburbs and then you just have that be your summer car that's my summer car i'll i'll consider it i'll consider it okay the dream's not dead.

Speaker 4 You should get a punch buggy. Why is that? I don't know.
I feel like it would fit your vibe. Like an old punch buggy?

Speaker 4 Just anyone.

Speaker 4 The new ones, those are.

Speaker 1 Remember when the new ones made that? Like,

Speaker 1 they were hot for a minute.

Speaker 4 No disrespect, and this is not intended to be misogynist or misogynic. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I think those are chick cars.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, they're definitely chit cars.

Speaker 4 The new ones are chick cars, right? They're chick cars. I don't think I can get a punch.
But I am now, I'm willing to hear a suggestion.

Speaker 1 It's those and the

Speaker 1 like uh the Jeddah. Yeah, the Jetta.

Speaker 8 Jetta's a chick car. That was my first car.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 exactly. What did I say?

Speaker 4 It's a chick jake car. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So my garage is just barely not long enough to fit a Silverado because I was going to get a Silverado, but I rented one when I first got here and I parked it in the garage and it came down just on the bumper.

Speaker 4 I couldn't get in any further. So unfortunately, I don't think I can drive a Silverado either.
So now, like, the world's my oyster. I can get any car that I want right now, but

Speaker 4 I will be thinking the entire time like I should get a silver auto.

Speaker 4 Should I get a Hummer?

Speaker 1 It would be cool if you got a like old school wood panel,

Speaker 1 what are those cars called? With the seats in the back that look backwards, station wagon?

Speaker 4 Station wagon. You get a station wagon?

Speaker 1 That would just make me so sick as a kid. I saw it in the back seat.

Speaker 4 There was an old Jeep Wagoneer that I had my eyes on, too.

Speaker 4 Like the new wagoneers are sick, but there was one that I saw that was like 1980, and it was just all wood grain, everything. And I was like, what's the mileage on this thing?

Speaker 4 He's like, if you're asking, it's definitely going to be a problem for you. Yeah.
Like, you get this car if you don't give a shit about gas. It's probably like 10, maybe 9.

Speaker 4 But yeah, so that's that's one fire fest. I don't think I'm going to get an El Camino, and I have myself all worked up for this El Camino.

Speaker 4 That's what I've wanted since I was 13, but unfortunately, maybe I'll have to wait till next summer to get it.

Speaker 4 And then my other Fire Fest is another weekend of travel here. Pup Punk is going to be playing at the Oceans Calling Music Festival.
Oh, that's this weekend? It's this weekend, which is sold out.

Speaker 4 So it's not really a plug, but it's just mostly I'm flying in on Friday. We're going on stage first, first thing on Saturday.

Speaker 4 It's to the point where, if you look at the flyer and the lineup of bands, Pup Punk is like the smallest font possibly imagined because we're going first, as we should be, when you look at the other people that are playing there.

Speaker 4 Like, I think Incubus and John Mayer are closing out the day. It's a good lineup, but the Firefest is to get back here for Sunday morning, I'm going to have to fly out immediately after.

Speaker 4 So I'm not going to even get to stick around and watch the concert.

Speaker 1 Just like one and done, which kind of sucks but i can't get a flight on sunday morning no because it's it so ocean city is so far away from everything else yeah it's like two hours to philly two hours to dc there's like some small regional airports that don't have a lot of flights out so i'm gonna have to leave like right after but it's still gonna be a good time i forgot that was this weekend because i am starting to lose my mind we just did a great interview with sam murrell he's a very funny comedian and i was like why are we doing this on a thursday when he doesn't have a show till saturday now it's all making sense yep because i'm heading out tomorrow my problem is i've i i spent all of August being like late September, October's never going to get here.

Speaker 4 Yeah. And we're here.
Yeah, we're very much here.

Speaker 1 And like surviving Barstool in a week and a half.

Speaker 6 It is in our face.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's been a lot of travel. A lot of travel, but it's fun.
It's all fun. Yeah, no, let's go.
We're going to go to Ocean City. They have a tremendous lighthouse, by the way.

Speaker 4 Oh, and go get pictures concerts. Take many pictures.

Speaker 1 All right, my Firefest is pretty simple. The Cubs have had just an epic collapse that...
Oh, don't shake your fucking head.

Speaker 7 Well, I was going to bring it up.

Speaker 1 Don't shake your fucking head. I mean,

Speaker 1 I started saying the Cubs collapse, and he matched just started going like this. Well, it did collapse.

Speaker 7 I was waiting for it all episode because people are going to want to hear you talk about it.

Speaker 1 They're not that good.

Speaker 12 But that play.

Speaker 1 That play was very, very bad. It made me, I haven't had a reaction like that

Speaker 1 in a long time. If you missed it, the Cubs are fighting for a wild card spot.
They were up one game on the Marlins as of Tuesday. And with, I think it was like maybe one out or something,

Speaker 1 Suzuki just missed a ball. It went right by him.
Easy catch. Maybe lost it in the lights.
I asked Matt Olson, recurring guest, to please stop playing well. And he didn't listen.

Speaker 1 He did not listen. The Braves are a fucking wagon.
So the Cubs are, yeah,

Speaker 1 they're most likely not going to make the playoffs because they don't have any tiebreakers. And it's even last night, Wednesday night, it was just extra innings, bullshit.

Speaker 1 They just don't have a bullpen anymore. And it sucks.

Speaker 4 You can't do anything about Acuna.

Speaker 1 Once he gets on base everybody knew he was going to steal and i'm going to i'm going to back up uh boog and jd uh the the cubs announcers because they stopped the game for a cunya because i think what do you have 70 70 and 30 40 70 40 70.

Speaker 1 i get it that's a pretty great thing the cubs are trying to make the playoffs it was extra innings like they're they're like basically holding on for dear life like let's keep playing the game so yeah it sucks it sucks there's nothing worse than a september collapse did you see a cunya holding that giant base over his head, though?

Speaker 4 Yeah. That looked awesome.

Speaker 1 That was cool. He's so fucking good.
But yeah,

Speaker 1 the Cubs are depressing right now. And

Speaker 1 maybe we'll get lucky. Maybe they'll win tonight and the Marlins will lose.
But yeah, the way that they're losing, the tragic fashion is just, it's special. It's very Cubs.
It's Brant Brown 2.0.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 it was bad.

Speaker 6 It was bad.

Speaker 4 Max, do you want the Cubs? Do you want to play against the Cubs?

Speaker 1 Well, it's no longer possible.

Speaker 6 Yeah, now it...

Speaker 1 Because the Diamondbacks are firmly in the fifth. Yeah, I think they're like three games up.

Speaker 12 I think the Diamondbacks just have to win one out of their next four to clinch the fourth.

Speaker 8 Well, D-Backs are one and a half up on the Marlins and Cubs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know, but it's pretty hard. It's tiebreakers.
Yeah, that's super cool.

Speaker 8 They don't do game 163 anyway.

Speaker 4 I know. You have four games left?

Speaker 1 We have four games left.

Speaker 4 So you have the Taves and the Brewers, right?

Speaker 1 The Brewers. We're tied with the Marlins for records right now, but they have the tiebreaker.

Speaker 1 So, you know, if the Cubs win four in a row, then yeah, they probably.

Speaker 12 I mean, they're not dead at all.

Speaker 1 They're not dead. No.
But yesterday was tough because you had the Suzuki error happen, and then the Marlins lost game one against the Mets in a double header. So you're like, oh, cool.

Speaker 1 You know, blank page. And then they just lost an extra innings.

Speaker 4 I understand from the Cubs announcers' perspective, it's like you're fighting for something, and the Braves are just doing cool shit that doesn't really matter.

Speaker 4 And they've clinched like two months ago. They've been doing like a high-step celebration during actual games.

Speaker 1 I just wanted to watch, I wanted an extra week of baseball. It would have been fun.
It would have been fun to see the Cubs. They're not that good.
That's the problem. They're not dead.

Speaker 12 Like, you keep saying, I would have.

Speaker 1 Believe.

Speaker 7 They're tied.

Speaker 12 They just have to win one game. The Marlins have to lose one game.

Speaker 1 On Tuesday night.

Speaker 4 Wait, is that it? Is that really all they have to do?

Speaker 7 No, I'm just saying, like, if down the stretch.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 12 they need to play

Speaker 8 a game out of that next four games.

Speaker 1 It's not out of. But they can't win right now.
They're not able to win.

Speaker 7 You got to win. I mean, they're also playing the best team in baseball.
And they're saying we're in a position to win both of those games.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you're losing an extra innings against the Braves.

Speaker 7 But they should have beat the Braves. If Suzuki catches that ball, they beat the Braves.

Speaker 1 I don't like like what you're doing, Max. I think you can do it.

Speaker 1 I sat in just shock for an hour and then Max, because you know, these days when we tape early, no, this was immediate.

Speaker 7 I texted

Speaker 1 no, no, but we tape early on Tuesdays. So, like, I don't know if this happens to you, PFT, but so much happens between when we're taping and then later on at night.

Speaker 1 So, I just forgot we had taped a show that day.

Speaker 1 And Max texted me like as nice as possible, asking for the synopsis.

Speaker 1 Well, I was sitting there dead at my desk, like just blank staring. I jumped up like I'd seen a snake.
I was like, ah, when Suzuki dropped it. I couldn't believe it.
So, yeah, it's not been fun.

Speaker 1 It's not been fun. And then if the Brewers beat the Cobs and then the Brewers fans,

Speaker 1 boo-boo-boo-boo-boo.

Speaker 4 Are they Packers fans?

Speaker 1 Brewers fans? Yeah, and they're going to say shit. Also, Buckex fans.

Speaker 4 And they're Bucs fans, and the Bulls were one of the last teams in the running for Dame 2.

Speaker 4 Man, that's tough.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and the one team we share is the Badgers, and they suck.

Speaker 1 Now, actually, Luke Fickles building a monster. I stand by that.
We're We're going to beat Ohio State.

Speaker 1 You hear that right now? We're going to beat Ohio State. Hanks, Buckeyes?

Speaker 1 Halloween weekend, night game, Madison. I don't know if it's a night game.
We're going to beat Ohio State. All right, Jake, finish us off.

Speaker 8 I just learned this about the Ryder Cup. If they tie, the team that wins the previous Ryder Cup wins the Ryder Cup.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's the famous thing ever. Yep.
So do we have the tiebreaker? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Okay. So let's tie them.

Speaker 1 Let's tie this up. I didn't know that until just now.

Speaker 9 Let's tie the fuck up.

Speaker 8 14-14, the team holding the Ryder Cup retains it.

Speaker 4 Let's win that tie.

Speaker 8 That's an interesting rule.

Speaker 8 I don't understand the Kevin James meme.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the Kevin James meme kind of came out of the camera.

Speaker 8 I googled it and I didn't get a clear answer. I still don't get it.

Speaker 4 I'm trying to think where it came from. Who's patient zero of the Kevin James memes?

Speaker 1 I think our guy Mikey Betts might have been one of the first ones. I don't get it.
I didn't say that. Yeah.
Do you guys get it? Were you part of it?

Speaker 1 Memes, can you explain the Kevin James memes really quick?

Speaker 4 It's just very funny.

Speaker 1 Good job, memes. That's real.
That's good job, Means.

Speaker 1 I don't get it. That was a great job.
It's just like perfect.

Speaker 4 Like, everybody else is posting it and it's funny, so I got to post it.

Speaker 4 I think I know what it is. It's like when you do something sneaky and you get caught doing it, but you're still not sorry that you got caught doing it.
Like you're happy that you did it.

Speaker 1 It's evolved. It's evolved where we are at.

Speaker 4 Now it's just every single Kevin James photo ever.

Speaker 1 There's like one of him as a cop. Somebody said it was, he was, this is, I'm going to tell my kids this is Pete Alonzo.

Speaker 4 He's wearing a Mets jersey.

Speaker 4 So it's just evolved now when you give up 30 points to the Bears and then it's the Sean Payton version of Kevin James. We should put that one on file for this weekend, Ames.
That's gonna be hot.

Speaker 8 Also, I got Papadiad with Hank.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. We forgot Jake's birthday.

Speaker 4 Happy birthday, Jake. Happy birthday, Jake.

Speaker 1 Thank you, guys. Happy birthday to Jake.

Speaker 1 That's on you. That's on you.
Jake's judge.

Speaker 4 You sat in this room for three hours knowing it was your birthday and knowing that you're going to be.

Speaker 1 But like, what about you? Like, hey, guys, it's my birthday. Like, that's weird.

Speaker 1 It's the same thing. It's the same thing.
It's just like, you don't want to bring it up.

Speaker 4 Did anybody wish you a happy birthday

Speaker 4 on X.com?

Speaker 8 I got some tweets.

Speaker 1 What do you should have retweeted? We did. Oh, yeah.
But that's late.

Speaker 4 I'm saying, like, earlier in the day, you should have retweeted an X so that we would have seen it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but that's just like, look at me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's your birthday.
Happy birthday, Jake. Thank you, guys.

Speaker 1 28. Happy birthday.
28. Yeah.

Speaker 4 What do you want to accomplish this year, Jake?

Speaker 8 I want to call more games.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 4 Or tournaments?

Speaker 8 Love to our tournaments.

Speaker 12 For the record, I was the first one to say happy birthday.

Speaker 1 How old are you, Max?

Speaker 7 28. You could be 40.

Speaker 1 I thought you were 38. Yeah.

Speaker 12 Well, you're a fucking dick.

Speaker 1 How old are you, Memes? 28. Whoa.

Speaker 8 I think Memes is a grade older than me, Max.

Speaker 1 We got to find a nice, young, supple boy. Shane.
Shane. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Shane's like 22 or 22.

Speaker 1 Let's get a teenager. Should we get a teenager? Charlie Woods.
Yeah, let's get a teenager.

Speaker 8 The amount of intern applications we're about to get.

Speaker 4 well we should do i would be down to get a teenager you know what we should do big cat we should get like a 17 or 18 year old who's good at football yeah and then have him join the show no that would ruin his life i know

Speaker 1 we should get a teenager let's get a teenager memes find us a teenager it's so funny how how quickly we forget things yeah yeah oh you know it'd be fun get us a teenager yeah uh all right numbers three

Speaker 1 69 memes you ever gotten it 18

Speaker 1 one also our next show will officially have the results of Dingers Only. Regular soon will be over.

Speaker 8 We have a two-man race between memes and Evan and Shane. There was one point separating them before today.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow.

Speaker 4 Okay, so what happens if they come in second?

Speaker 1 That's a catch.

Speaker 4 Both of them simultaneously? Yeah, two catchers.

Speaker 1 Oh, I like that. So if we tie, it goes to the strikeout rule.
Oh, that's right. I forgot about the strikeout rule.
We drafted a picture.

Speaker 4 Whoever has more strikeouts would go into second. And right now, who is winning the strikeout rule? It's me.
Oh,

Speaker 1 okay. Oh,

Speaker 1 okay.

Speaker 4 I forgot. I've already ordered my spider tack.
I'm ready to go, baby.

Speaker 4 34.

Speaker 1 20.

Speaker 1 Means, what was your guess?

Speaker 4 45.

Speaker 1 45.

Speaker 12 All right, for Billy.

Speaker 1 See everyone on Monday. Love you guys.
Talking away.

Speaker 1 I don't know what I'm to say. I'd say it anyway.

Speaker 1 Today's on my day to find you. Shy away.

Speaker 1 I'll be coming for your love love, okay. For your love, okay, for your love of me, for your love of

Speaker 1 your love,

Speaker 1 take

Speaker 1 on me,

Speaker 1 take

Speaker 1 me on,

Speaker 1 I'll be on

Speaker 1 top of

Speaker 1 the state.

Speaker 1 I I want to sentence, but he's throwing it away.

Speaker 1 Telling them that life is okay. Say after me.

Speaker 1 It's not better to be safe. It's not better, to be safe, it's sorry, to be safe, it's all it to be safe, it's all safe.

Speaker 1 Take on me,

Speaker 1 take

Speaker 1 me up.

Speaker 1 I'll give you all

Speaker 1 to.