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Today is Wednesday, August 2nd, Grit Week, presented by Coors Light. And we are podcasting from a hole.
The first ever podcast from a hole. We're in Sandusky, Ohio.
Inside of a hole. If there's ever a time to subscribe and watch the show on YouTube, it'd be this episode.
Low man wins. Perfect for Grit Week, right? Yes.
No one's ever done a lower podcast than this before. Yes, it is.
It's kind of like we're in a coffin simulator. I think we're about six feet underground right now.
And it's awesome. Just chilling in the hole with the boys.
It is.

Below sea level.

We're below sea level.

It is one of the dumbest things we've ever done.

For people who are maybe new to the show,

who are maybe Bill's fans who are showing up for this episode,

we had the idea about a year ago because we had a,

what was it, Monday reading.

A dude, a girlfriend wrote that her boyfriend was just digging a hole in their backyard every weekend.

And she was concerned.

I think he was actually sneaking away.

To dig a hole.

To dig a hole.

He had a field somewhere else.

Like some guys have a second apartment that they take their ladies to.

He had a second piece of land that he just went out to and dug all the time.

Yeah.

So we're like, oh, we should dig a hole.

And then time passed, as it always does. And we got to this moment.
And we're like, fuck, we have to dig a hole. And we got out here.
Mission accomplished. And we dug a hole.
And now we're podcasting from our hole. And Jake ate a worm today.
And Jake ate a worm today. A live worm, yeah.
That video, which will be coming out soon. Jake did ask us.
He's like, should I kill the worm first before I eat it? Yeah. He's like, what if I poop it out? It went down just like my allergy medicine.
Jake, can you please sit back in the hole for us? I mean, you've been sitting in the hole all day and the noises you make, you're chewing your head. He's not going to do it.
Just maybe stand for a minute and then just sit without telling us. I won't get in front of the cameras.
Yeah, don't get in front of the cameras. Should we talk about MLB trade deadline? Yeah, I mean uh the Mets basically gave up the Mets tapped out the Mets the Mets are quite a funny organization because if I remember correctly we have a lot of Mets fans in our lives and uh when they signed Justin Verlander they're like it's World Series time Max Scherzer Justin Verlander who could stop us and now they're celebrating august 1st trading justin verlander to the houston astros back home to the houston astros and uh yeah the mets i guess are back into a rebuild i don't even know big rebuild so i actually i saw this article it came out on the athletic just a couple minutes ago i should write an athletic premium plus article about this real article.
I'm going to sit back real quick. Max Scherzer talking to the front office.
He said, I talked to Billy, Scherzer told the Athletic. I was like, okay, are we reloading for 2024? He goes, no, we're not.
Basically, our vision now is for 2025, 2026. 25 at the earliest, more like 26.
And so Max said, so the team is not going to be pursuing free agents this offseason or a simple team that compete for world series next year he said no we're not going to be signing the upper echelon guys we're going to be on the smaller deals within free agency 24 is looking to be more of a kind of transitory year huh so they're punting on this season, punting on next, maybe trying to get in 25. Definitely Mets all in 26.

Remember this. Uncle Stevie.

On the next. to be more of a kind of transitory year.
So they're punting on this season, punting on next, maybe trying

to get in 25. Definitely

Mets all in 26. Remember this.

On this podcast with the first report,

Mets World Series champions

2026. There we go.
They're ready to go.

I also have a report

from someone inside the Mets organization

who contacted me and said

Frank the Tank? No.

I'll never see a Mets playoff game. Won't contend for a decade.
Not Frank the Tank. Not Frank the Tank.
He said Forba. Yeah, Forba Decade.
Well, he's wrong. They're going to be competing within the short time frame of about three and a half years.
That new process. Yeah, it is a new process.
It's quite something because the Mets did –

it felt like they had all the hype going in the offseason.

I don't know, Max, Memes, why don't you come and just tell us what you think

because you are a Mets fan.

I would like to see –

Come in our hole real quick, Memes.

Yeah, you were celebrating.

There's plenty of room in this hole for you.

Come on in.

Stand behind the curtain.

Here comes Memes.

Should I get in the hole or – Our dishwasher come in this hole man it's big enough for you careful memes has had has rocked this look all day and we've had a very fun time just roasting what have you been called today dishwasher uh i said i think i said you look like a vietnam vet who's seen some shit somebody said he looks like a lesbian house painter yep i don't know who said that quite a look so mets so mets uncle stevie after hearing that report uh i was in the party like sell everybody just buy everybody the next year like what's the point of being a rich guy if you can't just buy people yep good point but the sound of that doesn't sound too good no what about 2026 memes that's a long time away yeah that's dumb you're rich yeah good point I'll say it right now 2026 is never gonna happen in 2026 we'll dig another There's going to be AI baseball. I'm not going to set a reminder for that.

Okay.

Please do, though.

Actually, yeah, Jake, remind me to put an off-season future on the Mets in February 2026.

Yes.

That's when we're all in.

You might get better value before the winter meetings.

Oh, yeah.

I should do that before.

So I should do like right after World Series. Yeah, October 31 31st yeah november 1st 2025 okay i'm in um so memes it's tough but at the same time i think uncle stevie's learned the lesson that basically every new owner makes is like they come into the league and they're like i'm just i'm rich i'm gonna buy people and then it doesn't work out the first time around yeah but they're signing people are,000 years old.
I love calling him Uncle Stevie because I'm sure there's some Mets fans listening right now that are just cringing at the thought that they actually said that. Yeah.
Like being like, Uncle Stevie's going to buy us everything. Yeah, that's cringe.
You can always blame the World Baseball Classic, though. Yes, it did.
And Nate Diaz just, for him, the domino, said it.

Yeah.

Wait, Nate Diaz?

Edwin Diaz.

Edwin.

I was like, what?

I was like, I'm ready to go on this journey of Nate Diaz taking down the bets.

I know what he meant.

Nate Diaz would be a good closer.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, he'd be a healthy body.

Yeah.

Okay.

So, we'll see you in 26, memes.

No, he's going to buy some people.

Stevie's back in his brain. He's going to buy some people.
He's going to buy some people. Stevie's back in his brain.

He's going to buy some people.

He's going to buy some people.

He's going to buy.

Yep, I like that.

He's going to get Otani.

Okay.

Even though he's not a free agent.

Yeah.

Yeah, he is.

He is?

Yep.

Yeah.

Get him.

Okay.

Okay.

Yeah, you got it.

All right.

Hop back on your chopper.

We'll see you later.

All right.

Okay.

Actually, Memes looks, he doesn't even look like a guy who's on a chopper. He looks like a guy who's sitting behind a guy on a chopper, holding him softly by the waist.
Probably like the filmmaker that's getting taken on a tour of Vietnam. Yeah.
All right. Other big deals.
I saw the O's got Jack Flaherty from the Cardinals, so that's good that the Orioles did something. O's are all in? Yep.
All in as the Orioles will ever be.

All in as the Orioles will ever be.

I saw there was, who was it

from the Tigers

denied a trade to the Dodgers?

Which you don't see very often. It was on one of his

10 teams not to be traded to list.

That seems like a lot of teams to have on your

don't trade me to these teams list. That'd be funny if he

just hated Gavin Newsom. Yeah.

That was why.

No Colorado.

It was Eduardo Rodriguez.

Eduardo Rodriguez.

I saw that the White Sox were selling a bunch.

They're back in a reset after it felt like they were ready to contend.

The Cubs bought a little.

Yeah.

What happened to Mancini?

He got DFA'd?

I think so.

I don't know.

They're doing stuff with rosters because they did trade for a couple guys.

I love Mancini.

Yeah.

Good guy.

Yeah.

We'll see you next time. a little.
Yeah, what happened to Mancini? He got DFA'd? I think so. I don't know.
They're doing stuff with rosters because they did trade for a couple guys. I love Mancini.
Good guy. Hall of Fame guy.
Better guy than he is baseball. He has never been DFA'd as a human.
Yeah, and the Phillies got a starter. So that's something, Max.
Sure. This is baseball talk, baby.
Yeah, Michael Lorenzen. Just learned about it right now.

Fixed everything.

Fixed everything.

Fixed everything.

I also heard that the Padres were considering trading Juan Soto.

Which would be crazy.

Which would be insane to do.

Yes.

Nats won that trade.

Fleeced him.

I told you the day it happened.

Did I not say fleeced?

Yes, you did. Fleeced.

I also learned today, fun fact, Rich Hill is still in Major League Baseball.

Legend.

Love it.

That was crazy to me.

Old Money Mountain. Yeah, he's been around forever.
He's going to be playing for, he's the new Jamie Moyer. So Rich Hill got traded to the pod.
It's his 13th team. Yeah.
How old is he? He's got to be like 38. He has to be.
He's been everywhere. He'll be great for the, what's it, the trivia thing that they play.
Maculate Grid.

There it is.

43 years old.

43?

Holy shit.

From Milton Mourner. Morning, Milton Mourner.

Fuck.

Yeah, Milton Tuff.

He is the new Jamie Mourner.

43 is insane.

Wow.

Kids grow up and be a decent Major League Baseball.

He's been on four teams the last three years.

What about your Yankees, Billy?

Your Yankees making some big moves?

They didn't do anything. Talking to shovel, Billy.
They didn't do shit. Talking to shovel.
No, they got right-handed reliever from the White Sox, Kenyon Middleton. Yeah, but an hour ago, since July 1st, 29 teams have made a trade since July 1st, and the Yankees are the only ones who didn't.
Okay, but that has been corrected. Yep.
That has been corrected. All right, Jake, sit down.
You're making me uncomfortable. He's not going to make a noise.
It's not real. I can't remember the time Jake has sat down, he's been making a noise like, oh.
He did one earlier that was like, oi. He sounds like Toad.
Oi. You guys should just start filming me when I'm about to sit.
I know. You've got one naturally.
Great series. That's your job, Shane.
Shane, you're on Jake's sit cam. Yeah.
All right, what else do we have? The U.S. women's team sucks.
Yeah, so we kind of do suck. We tied Portugal.
Unacceptable. Fun fact, they're the only country outside of South America that speaks Brazilian, so I guess they're probably pretty good at soccer.
Yep. But the U.S.
women's team does not look good at all. I did wake up.
I set an alarm for 3.10 a.m. Psycho.
I opened my eyes, put the game on, and then I fell asleep within probably two minutes. And I'm so glad I fell asleep because there was no scoring.
Yeah. It sucked.
And then our only good player got a yellow card, Rose Lavelle. Yep.
So she's not going to be able to play the next game. And we were saying in the RV earlier that, like, you know it's going bad for women's soccer when we're starting to get, like, old man takes on them because they were celebrating after, and it disgusted me.
It disgusted me, too. It disgusted me.
Okay, counterpoint. I think it's good for women's soccer that we're firing off these old man takes about their sport, not being like, oh, boring women's soccer.
It's like, no, you shouldn't be celebrating like that after you tie Portugal 0-0. You only won one game against Vietnam, who you barely even beat by three goals.
So listen, you haven't won shit yet. They're entitled.
They're entitled babies. They are babies.
And we mean that as a sign of respect to women's sports. We expect more.
I do expect more. Yeah, no, they're being criticized the way I criticize when the U.S.
men's team,

everyone says this is the golden generation.

They don't make the fucking tournament.

They advance, though.

Who?

Women.

That's not the standard for the women's team.

If they win the World Cup.

If they win the World Cup.

If they had any pride.

Jake's right.

If they had any pride, they would rescind their advancement.

You can't advance with two ties. If they win the World Cup, I will be the first to say congratulations to me for lighting a fire under their baby asses and getting their shit together and winning the World Cup.
That's what I expect from them. If I were on that team, I'd rescind my invitation to advance.
If they had any dignity whatsoever. They need to get Hope Solo back in that locker room.
Just smack some people around.

They need a little bit of psycho.

They need more dog on that team.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I'm disappointed.

Count me in the disappointed camp for the U.S. women's national team.

And their jerseys stink.

Do they?

Yeah.

They're not good.

They're better than men's jerseys, but they still stink.

All right.

Other things.

I mean, it's just camp season.

Nathaniel Hackett said Sean Payton broke the code. Broke the code, yeah.
Broke the code. Him and John Morant.
Yeah. So that's a big problem.
Mike Tomlin says he hopes that game's in primetime so he can watch it. I love that.
Mike Tomlin is the best. He's just speaking for all of us.
Yeah, they better put it in primetime. I've heard that Jets fans are panicking about the fact that they're going to have to stay up late to watch primetime games.
A lot of pressure. I mean, you're under the spotlight this year, Billy.
Who's saying that? You asked for this, Billy. You used to be able to forget about the Jets games with the primetime game.
Hopefully, we won't have to. October 8th, 425 Eastern Time.
That's definitely a name for the Commonwealth game. Yeah.
They can't flex it. I think it's too early.
We also have just camp highlights that are very funny. George Pickens made the greatest catch of all time today.
Everyone freaked out. Bijan Robinson is...
Well, the greatest catch of all time of today. Of today.
Bijan Robinson continues to light it up by beating linebackers in one-on-one drills. So sick.
So funny when they're like,

Uncoverable.

Look at Bijan.

I'm sure he's going to be good because he was fucking awesome in college.

He's got a great coach.

But it is very funny to see him do a juke move on a one-on-one drill

where the linebacker's just standing in space.

I would hope that the running back would win that drill 100 times out of 100.

I saw a sick pass from Jordan Love today. Threw it about 45 yards in the air on a dot against no pass rush whatsoever.
But you can just tell, like, that guy's special. Yeah, he's been lighting it up.
Yeah, Dak has. Dak threw an interception.
Dak threw the nicest interception I've ever seen in my life. Trey Lance has a—Trey Lance might get cut.
Trey Lance overthrew his—I think his coach by like 20 yards above his head. And all reports say that Sam Darnold and – is Brock Purdy practicing? I think he is.
They're getting more reps than him. That's a problem.
It is a problem. That's a big problem.
So that doesn't look good there. I saw Bryce Young today was being interviewed.
He's looked good in camp apparently. Yep.
Yeah, there were a lot of people. I'm a Stroud boy.
There are a lot of people out there who are on Bryce's that were coming at me and saying, Bryce is not worse than Stroud. I think Stroud's going to have a better rookie year.
That's all I'm saying. But Bryce had an interview today where he said that he worked as a DoorDash delivery guy when he was in college.
Where he would just pick up stuff and then drop them off at doorstops, not like opening the door, just like ring the doorbell and go back to the car. Okay.
I have a couple questions about that. Number one, is that not against the NCAA rules to have a job in college? Well, not anymore.
In 2020, was it? Maybe. It might have been.
So he might have admitted to a serious violation on that one. And then two, the way that he described it was so kind of shady, where he's like, yeah, I would just drop it off, ring the doorbell, go back to my car.
I feel like he was just dropping bags off for Will Anderson. That's COVID, though.
No contact. I think it's more likely that Nick Saban was like, your delivery route is going from Wells Fargo, dropping a bag off at Will Anderson's house, ringing the doorbell, and going back to your car.
Don't look inside the bag. That's what I think.
By the way, I just moved my foot. That's the good dirt.
Yeah, that's the good dirt. That's what we're dealing with at the bottom of the hole.
Our audio guy's cracking up right now. Okay, anything else before we do Hot Seat, Cool Throne? And then we got two awesome interviews in Mount Rushmore.
Yep. Anything else? All right, let's go.
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Hank. My hot seat hot seat is Lizzo.
Oh, what happened? Uh-oh. She's getting sued.
For what? She was in Amsterdam. Not letting her people eat? No, she actually was forcing her backup dancers to eat.
Problem was it was bananas out of sex workers' vaginas. Oh.
Is that a crime? Apparently. Well, she's getting sued for it.
Would you sue us for that?'ve there's been a point of contention this whole week that we've been starving you so what if you started again that's what you're saying we got an accident we've been starving you you got an accident you've been starving i have not i bought you 150 worth of breakfast yeah we settled that today last week was a little tough monday was a little tough but we're we've we've moved past that what if i said to morning, hey Hank, I have your breakfast. It's a banana out of PFT's asshole.
I would probably file a claim with Morgan & Morgan. Okay.
Also, just to recap here, Hank, when you say it started last week that you've been starved out, you ate lunch at 1 o'clock and then you started to complain at 3.30 that you've only eaten one meal. That's actually very true.
You said, I've only eaten one meal today at 3 o'clock. It was 7.30, and you were driving me as far away from the house as you could.
You know what I had today? I ate two scoops of ice cream and a waffle cone. That was my lunch.
Same. It's your choice.
Again, that's the problem. You're forcing your choices on others.
Okay, so much like Lizzo. Yeah, literally.
You stop smoking weed and then you just don't get you've and you've been a little bit yeah you've been outside of your own head again i think i think i think i think again asking for breakfast if that's a crime put me in put me in the gulag 30 years old you can get breakfast on your own uh so back to lizzo uh she's getting sued she's on the hot seat so it was bananas out of vaginas in amsterdam i guess that's probably where she was like oh we're in amsterdam anything goes international laws. She's getting sued.
She's on the hot seat. So it was bananas out of vaginas? In Amsterdam.
I guess that's probably where she was like, oh, we're in Amsterdam. Anything goes.
International laws. There's a place called, I think it's called the Banana Room.
I heard this story from Glenny Balls and Fights when they went there with Burt Kreischer. Okay.
I think Fights told me, actually. So KFC Radio went over there and they took him to the Banana Room.
And this is what happens at the banana room. So it's kind of when you go into the banana room,

not defending Lizzo here,

but when you do go in the banana room,

weird shit goes down.

The first question you should ask

when somebody takes you to a place called the banana room is,

oh, why is it called the banana room?

Oh, I would say, do they have snacks?

They do.

Okay, can I please have some?

Yeah, maybe she won't.

Maybe she'll get proven innocent.

Okay.

I think she's got somewhat of a claim, but yeah. I don't think so.
Probably not. That probably doesn't fly, especially subordinates.
Yeah. Yeah, relatable.
That's like the part that, yeah, because we've made you do that. So when I saw this story come out, I thought to myself.
Anything. I thought to myself.
You can have a banana out of PFT's asshole anytime you want. So along the lines of what you're saying right now, Big Cat've said and done a number of things that would probably open us up to litigation from hank 100 if he ever decided to but we have a we have it like a what is it canary in a coal mine parody law if the canary dies you know that there's a gas leak yeah if jake marsh doesn't sue us we're good yeah he's our canary in a coal mine because he would be the one so that's binding he just said I will never will never sue you guys.
I hope you want a banana split tonight, buddy. You like nuts on him? Yeah, Jake is our canary in a coal mine, though.
If he does not file an HR claim, no one else will. Yeah, that's actually great for immunity because Billy's definitely going to file a lawsuit at some point.
For sure, we're going to have to have him all we're gonna we're just gonna kill billy yeah yeah you know what do you think this hole's for billy just realized oh shit why are we building a hole location we're in the middle of a cornfield in a giant hole you ever seen the end of casino yes it's the perfect crime too because we'd be like why would we why would we put billy in a hole that we podcasted from yeah that's stupid wink wink he just fell in yeah all right your cool throne hank uh my cool throne is the nvp yes stakes got a lot higher for the nvp nickelodeon playoff game was just a wild card game the last couple years now they're doing a super bowl alternate broadcast so they did kind of rig the polls so that we couldn't. They AWL proofed it.
Yeah. So I hope they open it up again.
But, yeah, they're doing an alternate Super Bowl broadcast this year, Jake. Yeah.
Jake. Is Noah Eagle on it? Tell Noah Eagle to stop the steal.
What they did to Democracy in America last time is unforgivable. We couldn't vote for the quarterback of the losing team.
That's our MVP. We'll make a stink.
I think, yeah, the first year was the hashtag so you guys could do your thing, but now they put it to the Nickelodeon website, right? No, first year it was a vote. No, but they only let you choose certain people this year.
I thought it was hashtag Mitch for MVP the first time.

No, I just came up with that hashtag as we were watching it,

trying to get other people to do it.

We spammed the vote.

And then sent people to the website.

But no, it sounds like you're standing up for your boy.

I mean, of course.

Well, he rigged the election.

It's not his fault.

Are you going to indict me?

It is his fault.

I'm going to indict him.

All decisions are made by the play-by-play guy.

Of course.

That is a fact.

Yes.

I'll tell you what.

If we win this MVP, shot of a lifetime.

Yeah.

You guys see the shot of a lifetime?

Viral golf shot?

No.

What was it?

It was like this guy from a bunker.

Really?

Yeah.

It was an actual shot of a lifetime?

Yeah.

I would say a shot of a lifetime from a bunker goes to the H-man.

That's true.

That's a fact.

Yeah.

He killed Hiller. Yeah.
He did. He did something good for everyone.
Yeah. Okay.
Oh, wait, that was your cool throne. That was my cool throne.
Okay. PFT.
Good cool throne, Hank. Great job, Hank.
We know you need to be, you know, positive reinforcement because you stopped smoking weed. Why did you stop smoking weed? Yeah.
I want you to go back. You never really told me that.
You just stopped. I don't just ran out i was like i'm done well it's interesting because legal in illinois yeah i don't know i just i turned 30 i'm older i was just like fuck it i actually i

mean like if you had a joint right now i'd probably smoke it i'm just not buying it for myself okay

so we just have to buy you wheat no okay that's fine deal i think i actually know why hank's grumpy

and it is it's my hot seat i know why you stop smoking it's weed weeds on my hot seat uh-oh

There's something called a hop latent viroid going around, and it basically nerfs potent weed. Ooh.
So all the big potent weed, we've talked about it on the show before, weed has gotten too strong. That might be a boomer take on our part.
When we were growing up,

weed was still pretty strong, but not this strong.

So they've made it even less strong.

So the nerfing of the weed is

going around right now. There's like a virus

or a fungus that's affecting

like 90% of marijuana plants in

the country. We got a wild cat.

What? Oh, shit.

We saw it earlier. Oh, let's get this cat in the hole.
Let's get this cat in the hole. Sorry, PFT, but there's a cat right here.
We're going to get this cat in the hole. I'm allergic.
You're scaring it. You're scaring it.
Come here, kitty. Come here, kitty.
Oh, let's get this cat. Oh, yeah.
You're allergic to pussy, Jake? That kind. Okay.
You dog, you. Okay.
All right. Go ahead back to the nerfed weed.
So weed is not strong anymore. So basically in the next year or two, all the really potent weed is going to be brought down by like 50% potency, which I actually think is wonderful.
Yeah. I think that's what weed needs to be.
It needs to be exactly half as strong as it is right now so you can still smoke it and do stuff. So that means we have to buy double the weed.
We have to buy twice as much weed for it. Why are you trying to enable me? Why can't you just support me? I support you, Hank.
I think this is like life finds a way. Yeah.
Like the universe knows. Weed's getting too strong.
God was like, okay, let me just sprinkle some of this virus out there. Yeah, agreed.
Salt Bay. Agreed.
My cool throne is Northwestern, the University of Northwestern, because they hired former Attorney General Loretta Lynch to lead an investigation into all the hazing practices and the culture at Northwestern football. And also at the same time, they had a four-star quarterback commit that just switches commitment to Oklahoma.
Oh. But my cool throne is that I actually think that this is good as a fan of Northwestern.
I think it's good for the program as a true fan of the football team. Are you on the board? I am yeah, basically, I am on the board And as a fan of Northwestern, a real fan of the school, the institution, not just the football team I think they should be given the death penalty I think that as Northwestern goes, we're more than a football team We're an institution that develops and builds young minds And teaches them to be ethical And we can't do that with this sort of football team So, listen, if you're an alumni out there who's in sports media, if you're a journalist and you're saying anything besides death penalty to Northwestern, you're also agreeing with the fact of everything that they did to get to this point.
Yes. You're endorsing it, not me.
Jake, I sense a little disdain when you said that about PFT there. Are you? I mean, there's a journalism rivalry.

Right.

I know.

He has a more prestigious degree than you.

Right.

Well, also our journalism school, you forget, was unaccredited.

So we lost our accreditation.

Discredited.

Yeah.

Just numbers never lie.

Numbers never lie.

Accreditation never lies.

Yeah. That's true.

So, yeah, I think Northwestern, as a fan, should have the football team disbanded.

Death penalty.

Yes. That's the only way out of this.
Agreed. Agreed.
All right, my hot seat is the Pac-12. Pac-12 feels like they are teetering at this moment.
Could even be announced after this, but Arizona, Arizona State, and Utah are being rumored to go to the Big 12. The Pac-12 is also trying to get them to stay by putting the Pac-12 on apple tv uh cw yeah subscription model which i guess would be better than the pac-12 channel that i never was able to finally get it's always channel number like 671 yeah so uh but the pac-12 feels like they're in dire straits i have also heard rumors it's it is true what great band great band yeah mark you know him then that's the callback yeah when hank said dire straits great would you say great song.
What? Great band. Great band, yeah.
Mark Nauflin, you know him. No, it's a callback.
Yeah. When Hank said Tyron Straits, what did you say, great song? Yeah, great song.
It is – I've also heard rumors that Washington and Oregon to the Big Ten and possibly Florida State and Clemson as well. So who's going to be in the Pac-12? I don't think anyone's going to be in the SEC if they're going to move.
Hands off, Jake, okay? I want them. Okay.
I'm saying geographically. Yeah, okay.
Well, UCLA and USC don't make any sense geographically. Geographics do not matter in college football anymore.
We're headed for the big two, maybe big three, maybe big 12. That would be awesome if the big 12 just came from the ashes and became one of the big three.
Well, it's funny because all these teams leaving the Pac-12, this is now when Gonzaga is going to go to the Pac-12. Yeah.
Look at us. We're in a major conference.
I don't know why we don't just do – we should just do NFL model and just have divisions and just have conferences. The Big Ten and the SEC are the conferences and we do divisions.
You just kind of created college football as it is right now. Well, they'd have to clean it up a little.
I'm saying there's only two conferences. So we're headed that way.
We're not there yet. Two conferences, divisions within the conferences.
Maybe 32 teams total. Correct.
And they play in divisions of four. Right.
Got it. Yes.
It's going to work. I just want to get to the final ending of this.
I'm just sick of it. Yeah.
And then my cool throne is Lane Kiffin's girlfriend. It was National Girlfriend Day, so he posted it to her.
And she's attractive. Yeah, she is.
Congrats, Lane. Is that on the apocalypse? That's fine.
Well, he posted it. I didn't even know there was National Girlfriend Day.
You want to see a picture of her? I saw it. She's nice.
She looks smart. She looks like...
Very intelligent. They look happy.
National Girlfriend Day, see? Yeah. She's a good looking woman.
I like that he's got the high neck sweatshirt, too. Yeah.
Yeah. He looks like he's just living his best life with National Girlfriend Day.
Big shout out. They got a day for everything.
Mm-hmm. National Hank Eats a Banana Out of PFT's Ass Day is tomorrow.
I'm excited. Hank, how much would it cost? Good question.
I want to know your number. Everyone's got a price.
Is the peel on before or after? Oh. How far in your asshole is it? It would be half in, half out.
Wait, wait, but dude, the peel. 50 grand? Cash? 50 grand? That's doable.
That's doable. But get the peel on before.
Wait, how much am I getting out of this I have to stick a man out of my ass you're allowed to post it

only pants

yeah

okay Billy your hot seat cool to run

my hot seat is Hitman

a 28 year old hired

Hitman to kill his lover's husband

who was a former Auburn football player

and it went through

I've been hearing a lot of Hitman plots lately

some guy applied to be a Hitman

I'm not hearing any positive Hitman stories

I'm going to go positive hitman stories I think it's a profession that's going out of business yeah I mean every time I hear a story about a hitman it's just straight up like this hitman was like secretly recording the person that asked them to kill somebody if you ask your friend they're like do you know a hitman and they introduce you to somebody that guy's wearing a wire Yes Facts I saw a video that Woody Harrelson's dad was a hitman Yeah Oh JFK And he killed a judge Like an accomplished hitman Yeah Wait you can just apply to be a hitman? LinkedIn Hitman It's right next to Barstool GMs It's called LinkedIn But it's spelled like Lincoln I think hitmanforired.com was the website that got him. Oh, that's pretty under the radar.
Yeah. It actually might be a better thing to pretend to be a hitman and con people.
Like Jake's been doing this whole time. Jake, take out your gun now.
Kill Billy. Big guy admitted that I'm not a rat because I ate wings.
Yeah, you did. You ate wings.
It's your annual, hey, guys, I can do this.

Jake also put away quite a bit of wings, more than I thought that you would.

Yeah, you did. Because this was my first time this week.

You're a great eater.

Yeah, I can eat.

Yeah.

19 dogs in eight hours at Bolero.

Yeah, that's true.

That's a fact.

And your cool throne?

My cool throne is the Jets.

Shout out Steven Shea.

He did a little police work, not too much. But Aaron Rodgers Rodgers This is not going well How much is too much police work? The Jets Shout out Steven Shea No, no, no Sounds like you don't respect I've been following this But Steven Shea wrote a blog And I respect the bloggers Okay Aaron Rodgers Took a $35 million pay cut Right Devontae Adams Right Visited the Jets recently Did he? He did Aaron Rodgers took a $35 million pay cut.
Devontae Adams visited the Jets recently. Did he? He did.
Aaron Rodgers. He's on track with the Raiders.
Right, right, right. What do you mean he went to the Jets facility? He went to New York, I think.
Yes. He went to the Jets facility? Not to the facility.
That's not visiting. He went to New York City to see his friend? Yes, yes.
Okay. So there's no other reason why he would go to new york city there's probably a couple he didn't visit the jets he visited new york city okay that's what we made gone to new jersey okay we don't know that but if he visited the jets that would be like very illegal in tampering law so quote is a very very serious that would break the code yes quote from aaron rogers you probably agree with this this year compared to like 2005 the amount of transactions that happen now with guys getting cut and the amount of trades way more than before.
Big names move at the trade deadline now. I wanted to make sure that if somebody valuable came available, that we'd be able to get him.
I'm very happy with the contract. I feel great about it on his contract.
So hypothetically at the trade deadline, something were to happen. Like we have super teams now, Dame, Fahm, Miller, OBJ went to to the Rams before they won a Super Bowl.
Hey. Okay, so I actually don't disagree with the premise of this.
It makes sense. I do think that things are going to go sideways for the Raiders pretty quickly this year.
Devontae Adams probably not going to be happy playing for Jimmy Garoppolo in what figures to be a low-win season for Las Vegas. So it would make sense that he would be disgruntled

halfway through the season and want to leave.

So, listen, I'll give all the credit to Stephen Shea

for his not-too-much-police work

and for you for bringing it up on the show.

I think that it's a good possibility that this happens.

Yeah, the problem for the Jets would be that they're running out of picks.

How many did they send for Aaron Rodgers?

A couple? Yeah, a few.

But, I mean, you'd have to get—it doesn't really matter. That's a problem you just deal with later.
Can you do cash in the NFL like they do in baseball, cash considerations? Could Woody Johnson, could he send some money to Mark Davis? Because Mark Davis needs some cash. Yeah.
Why not? That would be good. Yeah.
Just float him some. Yeah.
Maybe a P.F. Chang's gift card.
Yeah. This P.F.
Chang's gift card is worth $500,000. Black card.
Mark Davis is like, that's two months. Okay, Jake.
My hot seat is Kendrick Perkins. He got ejected at an AAU tournament.
Uh-oh. Bad look.
What, yelling at the refs? Something like that. Okay.
I almost respect that. Depends on what the refs did.
Not a kid. Ejected is different.
Ejected is a bad look. It's not a terrible look because a fight is what's a really bad look.
Yeah. That's fair.
LeGarrette Blunt is a bad look. Right.
My dad's been kicked out of a couple. No way.
I never would have guessed that. It's not that bad.
Sometimes you go too hard for your son. I do like the rule, though, when you get kicked out of a Little League game for yelling at an umpire, you have to go to umpire school and then umpire a game yourself.
Yeah. Punishment fits the crime.
Yep. Absolutely.
My cool throne is Doris Burke. Yes.
She's getting promoted to the A-team alongside Mike Breen and newcomer in the booth, Doc Rivers. I like how you just presented that.
Yeah. Well, I think he has prior broadcasting experience.
He does. Is he going to be horse all the time? What? Is he going to be horse all the time? I don't know, but Mark Jackson, I think everyone was shocked that he got removed as well from the A-team.
I have a take that probably people will disagree with. I loved Jeff Van Gundy.
I liked that booth. Mark Jackson, kind of a goofball, but you need that in broadcasting.
I do think there was a moment where it was like, they've been doing this for too long because all they do is complain. You know what I mean? Oh, the cat's about to come in.
What's the cat's name? Blake. And Mark Jackson.
You know what I mean, though? Do you guys, like, I think they're great.

They just got a little bit grumpy because they've been doing it for so long.

But they weren't even really grumpy about the wrong things.

I found myself agreeing with them about, like, the flagrant fouls.

Of course.

Of course.

But they're also, like, when you're watching a game, you don't want to hear just constant

complaints.

Yeah, yeah.

I always lean more towards I will tolerate a shitty booth if they're friends and they get along right and they seem to be having a good time yeah i don't i i like that i like listening to buddies just talk while they're watching sports i weirdly think that like mark jackson and jeff van gundy if they take a year off and then come back i'd be like yes i'm all the way back in yeah you know just a reset year i'm gonna miss hearing mark jackson just say jeff van gundy yeah all the time remember when he tried to fuck lebron's wife yeah with all the respect? With all due respect. I'd knock that out of the park.
Mike Breen was stunned and sad about the firings of Jackson and Van Gundy. I mean, he probably got a pay raise too.
Breen? I don't know. He's great though.
One of the goats. Doris Burke is good too.
Doris deserves it. You don't know.
He's great, though. Doris Burke is good, too.
That's the other thing.

Doris deserves it.

Mike Breen will make anything.

You don't like Doris?

She's a hater.

Celtics hater.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

Who does she?

She didn't say a word during Game 7.

When Jason Tatum was going off and beat the Sixers, she was just dead silent.

I love that from you, Hank.

No, I genuinely love that.

Maybe she was.

She wasn't announcing.

Maybe her jaw was on the floor in amazement.

What's the point of being a sports fan

if you can't get pissed at the announcers?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm not wrong.

I'll show you.

There's documented proof.

Oh, you have a tape?

Yeah.

Okay.

What about your guy, Doc,

going right to the A-team?

I love Doc.

Yeah.

Great coach.

Sad, you know,

players that he had in Philly

couldn't do enough for him,

but championship coach.

He has won a championship.

Yeah.

That is a fact.

Max, what are your thoughts on Doc?

Thank you. you know players that he had in philly couldn't do enough for him but championship coach he has won a championship yeah that is a fact max what are your thoughts on doc i want to hang to shut up okay well let's get to the interviews let's do some interviews all protein bars generally taste the same but not one bars one made protein bars are actually delicious with reese's and hershey's only one Reese's peanut butter lover's protein bar is made with Reese's peanut butter.
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Okay, we now welcome on our best friend, multiple-time recurring guest. It is Josh Allen, quarterback of the Buffalo Bills.
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Use code 20GRIT for 20% off on Amazon. 20GRIT for 20% off for 20 off on amazon so the first question of course is what is grit to you josh allen grit is using the dorm bathrooms and being okay with it yeah my our good friend over here is not okay with using a dorm well no i'm just saying i i was telling josh before we started recording i could live in a dorm room.
I could be here for two weeks. That's great.
The dorm bathrooms might be an issue for me. Yeah.
Yeah, that's not gritty enough. It's not gritty.
It's actually like a lot of teams don't do this anymore. Go to a dorm, go to a college campus.
What's it like being back in a dorm with the boys? I was telling them it's like grit week for you guys. I know that.
It's like grit two and a half weeks for us. That true I love it though I do I honestly love being in the dorms You get to control your own little AC I put mine down like 58 degrees Nice You walk outside Like you spend every waking moment with the boys Yeah It's just having a good time Talking about football, life Getting to know each other a little bit better And playing video games with each other And just hanging I love it.
You decorate your dorm room? You got posters up there? Bob Marley poster? I should get a PMT poster up there. Yeah, you should.
That'd be sick. Pink Floyd ass poster? Yeah, all of them.
Boondock Saints, Scarface poster. All of them.
The Belushi College one. The two chicks kissing? Yeah, the kiss.
Strong guys? What is it, strong guys? Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. We just put it all up in the dorm so um it's great to see you it's great to have you back on i actually also have to start with i saw a tweet that you got hit really hard in camp practice like a minute ago i did and that the whole place went silent for about 10 seconds are you okay i'm fine do we need to do something to take this person take this person out, whoever hit you? No.
I love Taron. It was an accident.
It was an accident. It was kind of a little quarterback throwback pass.
I was waiting for the ball, and Dawson threw the ball. Taron comes in flying in like a bat out of hell.
Got a nice little charley horse, but more importantly, it was on the ground. I just got the wind knocked out of me.
That's scary. The wind knocked out of you is one of the scariest things you can experience.
Because when you get the wind knocked out of you, it looks like the way you act is a significant injury. Yeah.
Yeah, even though you'll be fine in 10 seconds. Yeah.
Okay. It looks like you're going to die.
Yeah. It feels like you're going to die.
Yeah, you're on the ground just like gasping for air. You said it was an accident? Yeah.
Sounds like hard-nosed defense. I'm playing some gritty defense.
If you were truly gritty, we can go at each other and say who's gritty, who's not. You would say, fuck this.
Can we see you're gritty? Yeah, you want me to beat your ass? No, the actual gritty. Oh, the gritty.
You want me to gritty? Yeah. Honestly, I'm not going to do it for you, but we got to.
Okay. Oh.
Oh. Oh.
Oh. Oh.
Oh. Don't do it to him.
Okay, sit down. Wait, so if you were so gritty, yeah.
Take the fucking red jersey off. Yeah.
You ever feel like a pussy for wearing that red jersey? Yeah. No one can touch you? I've gone out there actually three times without a red jersey.
Really? Okay. And just played, I played the end for the practice.
Nobody knew. Who's that guy? What about the visor? Are we rocking the visor? don't know i i always do like the the different colored visor for camp and practice sometimes i did a clear visor in college for a little bit um i don't know no visor no visor you don't like visor no super bowl quarterback has ever worn a visor doesn't my homes wear a visor no i don't think so can we we can fact check that i'm pretty sure he does he does we just don't say anything we'll delete this yeah yeah i thought he did at one point because he was an oakley guy not when he won the super bowl yeah hold up yeah we'll fact check it um your coach has uh the lombardi trophy on a big banner in the facility are you thinking that maybe that's a little forward is that too much that's good to visualize okay that's good to see it are you will you go one step further and maybe make a reservation for the super bowl just be like this is my goal i'm making the reservation right now reservation for the super bowl for vegas for what though you got a hotel reservation well the team does that for it's like that it's like the uh scene from steinfeld uh what's it called? The reservation where he's like, you got to hold the reservation.
Do you watch Steinfeld? I don't. Are you a fan of Steinfeld? I don't.
Okay. Am I saying that right? Seinfeld? Steinfeld.
Seinfeld. You're saying Steinfeld.
Oh, are you a fan of Steinfeld? I don't know what Steinfeld is. Like the show? Yeah, the show.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Exactly. Huge fan.
Big fan. You should buy a ticket to a show in Las Vegas that weekend and be like, okay, I've already got my tickets.
Yeah, but I don't want to go to a show for getting prepared for the Super Bowl. I think it's just disrespectful that you and your coach are saying, we'd like to win the Super Bowl this year.
Yeah. That seems kind of messed up.
I didn't know how I was going to work that in. Did I do a good job? You did a good job.
Okay, thanks. I was like, how the fuck am I going to bring up Seinfeld and then say Steinfeld? I've been reading the news.
Have you been reading the news about yourself? No. There was a headline and it was just Josh Allen makes out with his girlfriend on vacation.
That's awesome that somebody writes an article about you making out with your girlfriend. The fact that anybody cares about that still blows my mind he looks good in shorts i saw the pictures they were on a boat what they were on a boat seriously yeah that's fucked up that does that because like it's it's i saw it and i just like i just felt like this this gross feeling yeah the invasion of privacy no no privacy was is wrong with me? You got to get back to Buffalo.
The people of Buffalo will protect you. Yeah.
Yeah, that's the difference. That's why we're back.
Yeah, not because it's your job, but yeah, that's why we're back. You could have worse headlines written about you, though, than like, makes out with girlfriend.
That's true. That's true.
That's not a bad one to have. That is a pretty good one.
All right, so how are we feeling physically? Because I think that you're so tough, you were more injured last year than you let on. And now are you fully back? Do you feel good? We're back.
Okay. Is that true? You were more banged up as the season went along, especially after the elbow.
Yeah. I mean, there was probably three or four weeks where I didn't practice at all.
I just would get ready for game day. I was just standing out there, I'd get mental reps, but I wouldn't throw until game day.
Right. So that takes a toll on you, whether you believe it or not.
Like getting those repetitions in practice, it helps out a lot. There's no excuses, though.
We've got to go out there and we ball. I like that.
Are you worried at all about the Madden cover? No, not at all. Okay got just in case i think that could got debunked right it did it did it's one of those things that whenever it's bad it like it becomes a big story then there's a bunch of years where it's fine yeah yeah so you're not worried no what what happened when they they approach you and you're just like fuck this is like the coolest thing ever yeah yeah i mean they they gave my agent a call and said hey we we want him to to be on the cover and got on a zoom call with them and they had like this video and this whole presentation and the video is like really freaking sick and i was just like okay yeah yeah yeah because i mean i i grew up playing yeah right that's what i'm saying that's how i learned the rules that's how i like the basic coverages of defense and basic you know offensive concepts and as a kid i would play with my brother my dad and i knew every single rule so Like when I would play with my brother and my dad,

and I knew every single rule.

So when I played peewee in junior varsity football,

I was so far ahead of the curve because I knew what was supposed to be going on.

Yeah.

Do you look at the ratings and you're like, man,

they really boned me on pass blocking. I always love it when they have players and they try to figure out.

It's like strength.

I should be one of the, if not the strongest, quarterback in NFL. Because I'm'm so, so strong.
But they have me a little weaker. Has your arm gotten stronger since you've been in the NFL? No, I think it's stayed pretty constant.
When was the last time you ripped a ball and you're like, let's see how far this will go? It's been a long time. Yeah? Yeah.
You never actually threw one out of the stadium, right? No, I tried it one time. Yeah.
Are you going to try it again this year? Maybe. We'll see.
Okay. Depends on which way the wind's drifting, you know? Yeah, yeah.
If I got a heavy wind behind me, I might just chuck one up there. But it's a $17,000 fine every time I do it.
Bro. But still, if you throw a football out of the stadium, I'll cover your fine.
Yeah, well, no, you know what? We'll take it out of our cut. Why did I say that? No, no, no.
the $15 million you owe us. Oh, yeah, that's the IOU.
Okay, we'll just take it from the IOU. Yeah, that's fine.
You just pay it down. Yeah, I do have some IOUs back there for you guys.
I would like to say you can take my cut of the $15 million and you can use it and distribute it to your running backs. How about that? Yeah.
Yeah. $7.5 million's that's chump change okay yeah yeah what so wait when did you sign the the big deal was it a year ago uh or two years ago two years ago has your was it two years ago already have you bought bought anything like crazy? Define crazy.

Golf simulator?

I got a golf simulator.

Is it crazy?

Did I buy it though?

Oh, okay.

That's smart.

See, now you're saving that up so you can pay us.

Yeah, exactly.

I actually spent what I was going to give you guys, so that's why I have the IOUs.

So once that gets paid off, I can start reimbursing you guys.

What about jet skis?

No jet skis. No boats.
Tractor? No. Well, so there was – my dad texted me the other day.
I had worn a Fireball Eagle sweatshirt, which was my high school. And Buffalo and Bill's Mafia bought like $100,000 worth, and it was donated straight to the high school.
My dad texted me, they're buying an AI robot to paint the fields. That's pretty cool.
Yeah. My dad said, hey, they need your permission to buy this.
I was like, if that's what they want to buy, yeah, go ahead. Yeah.
That rules. So it just goes out there like on wheels and travels around? It's got like this kind of like command center.
You press the button, and it goes, and it paints some straight lines. And then you can input the logo at the middle of the field, and it'll go and do the entire logo.
So you can do soccer button, football button, lacrosse button. Yeah, I believe so.
That's awesome. Okay, that's a good use of money.
So that's the craziest thing that you've bought is an AI field painting robot? And I didn't even buy it. I don't know.
I don't know. I bought a new house recently.
Okay. Nice.
I wouldn't say that's crazy. Yeah, yeah.
No, that's not crazy. So it sounds like you have the $15 million for us.
Yeah. I mean, you're doing a good job with your money.
The thing is, you know, my checking and savings accounts all set up, you know, takes a couple days. I want to talk about last year a little bit uh obviously the DeMar Hamlin thing was crazy what was it for you as like the leader of the team did you get in front of everyone like a day or two after being like hey this is you know like did you feel that responsibility especially in a moment that had never happened before yeah um in the locker room because we'd gone back in and kind of gotten like a 15 20 minute break or whatever before we were gonna have to go back out there and play and I had to stand up and just kind of ask a question and I hated asking the question um to see if anybody and everybody would play um but I'm glad I did because it just took one person to say no we're not doing it i was like okay we're not doing it so yeah that that that it sucked um obviously that situation was so crazy but i'm so glad that he's out here and practicing with us and first day of pads back with him and um just the inspiration that he's actually brought our team and it's to go even further and inspiration that he's brought in a lot of other people around the country, world.
And he's done such a good job of teaching CPR classes and making sure that local communities and teams have AEDs in their facilities. So a lot of good has come from that situation.
Yeah. Which, again.
Hundreds of lives are going to be saved because of that. Yeah.
Like, that's just a fact. Because teams will use sports and all that stuff.
The awareness can be incredible. Yeah.
That, that's awesome. What was it like getting ready to play the following week after that? It was tough.
Yeah, we were sitting thinking about it. Are they actually going to be able to play? Because that's going to be in the back of your mind or at the front of your mind all week.
You're probably just like us, refreshing Twitter, trying to figure out if there's any news. Any news could be good news.
So going into that week, what was that like trying to prepare for a game? Yeah, I mean, it's a little bit of a psychological warfare, like, within yourself. And every day we were getting updates.
Like, the first team meeting, we'd get a call from him, whether it was the doctors that were helping tomorrow or his parents. And then that third day we got a call and it was him.
And just being, like, seeing him and kind of saying like y'all boys go get them like gave us enough juice to to go out there and you know first play yeah he minds yeah can't still can't believe it yeah no that was that was insane absolutely insane so what year seven you're going to year seven year six year six what have you learned in the first five years where you're like this is what we have to do different to get over that final mountain because you guys have been a really really good team and you've had those chances but it just hasn't broken your way yeah I mean I think playing your best ball at the end of the year uh is the biggest key and again this league is it's crazy like you're gonna need some luck going way. Injuries are a part of the game, and last year I think we got a little bit bitten by that.
But it takes a lot of different moving parts to win a Super Bowl. And there's only one team at the end of the season that's going to be happy that they won and this and that.
But I think everybody gets lost during the season with the whole let's go win the Super Bowl thought instead of let's just get to the playoffs and give ourselves a chance. Because you can't win the Super Bowl, you can't win the lottery if you don't buy a ticket, you can't win the Super Bowl if you don't make the playoffs.
So the playoffs is our Super Bowl ticket. And we've got to figure out, again, just to find a way to get there.
And then as soon as we get there, let's play our best ball. Yeah, and not getting too high and not getting too low, because I felt like even last year when you guys went into Kansas City early in the season, you beat them.
That was like a, yeah, we got them back for the AFC Championship game where it's like most of these teams that are there at the end, or sorry, it was a divisional round. Most of these teams at the end, they're never too high, never too low.
Every win, loss. I mean, the Colts beat the Chiefs last year.
And that was crazy. And that's the thing.
Sometimes a loss actually helps you. It refocuses you.
It's like, all right, we should not have. Like, what did we do during that week that caused us to lose that game? Like, why did we play off? What caused things to go around? So sometimes those losses help more than wins do,

and they kind of tell you who you are as a team,

how you bounce back from things.

And this sucks.

Like every game you want to go into and you want to win,

but not every game is a must-win game.

Right.

Some of them can't lose.

Exactly.

But, again, just finding a way to get into the playoffs and giving yourselves a chance.

Yeah.

Yeah, so what loss would you say was the most productive loss

that you had last year?

When you didn't cover the spread against the Packers.

Not that anyone here bet on that.

We didn't lose, though.

We lost against the spread.

Yeah, you lost against the spread.

That's important.

Well, I mean, yeah, we were 13-3.

I mean, we lost, I think, all three games by a combined eight or nine points. Yeah.
Miami game was crazy. Miami game was crazy.
A lot of – we were straight in the heat. And they construct that stadium, too, where it just beats down on the opposing team.
Yep. It's crazy.
It really is. The Jets game, losing to them, and then – Billy thought he won the Super Bowl after that.
Was it the Vikingsings yeah it was we learned a lot from the vikings and that was crazy that that some weird situations again we're backed up defense makes a crazy stop um we get the ball like on the half inch yard line the fumble they pick it up in the end zone they score and we had the mental aptitude to go down in two minute and score and tie the game and then just threw a bad pick in the end zone. Yeah.
It sucks. It was such an insane ending to that game.
I'm still convinced that Sean put too many men on the field on purpose. It's like challenging – like, call it on me.
I'll put 13 guys out there. We're on the half-inch line.
What are you going to do, half the distance of the goal? Now you're at the quarter-inch line that was on purpose can you confirm or deny no confirm or deny um we got to talk real quick about uh you've been doing a lot of other content with other people which is fine which is fine we're you know we have an open relationship it's totally fine but um daniel ricardo a friend of ours friend of of yours. Good friend.
Good friend. Okay, but if you had to pick, us or him? And we're not going to make you pick, but if you had to pick.
But you did make me pick when you guys FaceTimed me. Yeah.
Yeah. I'm going with my man Dancing Rick.
Oh, come on. Why is that? Can you name that quote, though I've got to give it to My Man Dancing Rick.
Who is that? It's a throwback movie. I'm a big movie quote guy, so I'll throw out movie quotes throughout the day and just name that movie.
Dancing Rick. Dancing Rick.
I've got to give it to My Man Dancing Rick. Who's that? It's Ben Stiller and Owen Wilson.
Oh. Starsky and Hutch.
There we go. That's kind of disgusting that that's a throwback movie to you.
Yeah, that hurts. It is a throwback movie.
That's 1997, probably 98? That was like 25 years old. Was it not? No, that was like 2004, 2005.
You think it was 2000s? Early 2000s? Are we too old for you? Is that the problem? No. You get a lot of young content creators.
We're too old. We're not cool.
What other content creators are you talking about? I don't know. Who are you talking to? You did some golf video.
I did some golf videos. We like those guys.
Bob does sports. We love those guys.
They're great. Great guys.
It hurts me a little. I've seen your golfing now.
Let's get out. I beat Hank last week.
Did you break? I did my job. I did my job.
We'll put it that way. All right.
Wait, so how is the golf game coming? I do have – you walked yourself into the moment with Tom Brady. We've got to be better.
You've got to consult us before. Which one? When you had his combine picture on the golf ball, and then he put a Lombardi trophy.
It was like, Josh, you ever seen one of these? Yeah. We've got to – that's one you should should run by us we can be like all right here's here's what his reaction will be don't put yourself sometimes i forget like what the other side's gonna do right right we can think ahead on the troll moves okay we can read a defense very well when it comes to that perfect yeah so you got to talk and then you also aaron rogers cheated right he did i'm a fan of aaron rogers now i love aaron yeah but he did he cheated yeah he sandbagged you he's saying not just me the world the world yes what'd he do he uh he may have gotten just seven or eight strokes too many oh at pebble beach or nine piece of shit i i not coming there not i no not for me that's what other sources are saying i'm saying that.
No, I think Aaron Rodgers should be in jail. Yeah.
Nope, I would never say that. I would say a lot of the golfers maybe thought that too.
Yeah. You don't cheat on a golf course.
Were you more nervous for the match than a football game? Yes. Because I would imagine.
You're putting down the ball and the tee and your hand is just shaking. And everyone's a golf expert online.

Yes.

So, like, the minute you get up there and you tee off.

Oh, brother, this guy stinks.

Yeah, right.

I don't do this.

This is not my job.

Right.

You know, like, I love golf.

I love playing golf.

And I'm getting to a point now where it's like, I'm getting better.

Yeah.

I feel good about my game right now.

So, let's set up a date. Okay.
And we'll go golf. Done.
We're done. In.
In. All of us except for Hank.
Can I ask one question? Yeah. The straight leg swing is just a troll, right? No, that's my real swing.
It's a troll swing. That's my real swing.
That's a troll swing. Okay.
Yeah. It's good, though.
It gets people going. It does get people going.
I used to do it when I was drunk with my friends when I would, like, at, like, 17, I was just bored because I get bored playing golf. I'd just be like, watch this drive.
Like George Bush. Just fucking straight legs.
And it usually goes straight. So maybe I'll just do it the whole time we do the video.
You and I be on a team, and I'll just straight legs everything. Okay.
I bet you we'll use some of my shot. Yeah, I bet you we'll use it.
You and me versus you can pick your... Hank.
No, I was going to say... I'm going to take...
Brooks Kapka. I'm going to take...
I'm going to take Max. Or Jake.
No, I got Jake. Yeah.
Love the new dog, by the way. Do you like Blake? I love Blake.
He's a very good boy. Do you have any dogs? No.
I love dogs, though. That's a red flag.
Yeah, that doesn't sound like you love dogs. I've had them in the past.
Okay. Okay.
You going to get another one? Maybe soon. We'll see.
What are we doing this year about protecting your health? Are we still mashing all the buttons sometimes? Or are there plays? Less. Less.
So you are getting to a point where you're like, I'm not going to go crazy. Because when you do go crazy and mash all the buttons, it's the coolest thing ever.
And you just dominate people and run guys but i also we we watch all the games obviously together on sundays in the gambling cave and there's like a moment every sunday where we collectively hold our breath because you're mashing all the buttons and we're like josh be careful josh be careful um so you're gonna think about it a little more yeah josh be careful josh be quick yeah just yes but just think about when you're doing that think about us and how worried we are okay no not my mom or my dad no it's us it's us my best friends every time we talk we've had this conversation going into every season you're like yeah you know i've learned that i gotta protect my body i gotta be more careful sometimes and then you get out there and you're like get hit yeah but i also don't hold it against you because if i had the ability to mash all the buttons like you do i'd do it all the time yeah because it's got to feel cool when you're like oh i'm gonna run over this linebacker sometimes yeah yeah you've also been talking a little bit more shit when you run people over i like that yeah you know i've kind of gotten away from trash talking trying to you don't if you trash talk me, it's like poking the bear if you want. I don't need to poke anybody.
Yeah. It's like I'll handle my own business.
You do whatever you need to do. I don't want to give anybody any added motivation.
Yeah. Is there a guy that's trash talked to you and you're like, okay, all right, let's see.
And then you go out there and do something special to him? I mean, it's not just one guy, but I think as soon as anybody does that to me during a game, it's like it kind of flips a switch and just locks me in a little bit more. Yeah.
Hierarchy in terms of coaching. Sean McDermott's obviously the head coach, but he's now the defensive coordinator.
Could you give him shit as a defensive coordinator? Be like, I'm talking to DC, Sean. Yeah.
Be like, you're an idiot. And then head coach, Sean, like, yes, sir, whatever you need.
Love you, Coach. Our team's doing great.
No, it's kind of a weird transition period right now where we're kind of getting used to it. Like, he's coming up to me and like, hey, you kicked my ass today.
It's like, wait, huh? You're the head coach. Yeah.
So I was like, oh, you're talking about the defense. I get it.
You know, so. I can imagine that could be tough at some points.
But the way that he's handled it, I think he's doing such a good job with calling defense right now and switching things up and making my job really hard back there in terms of figuring out what's going on. He's throwing a lot of stuff at me.
So maybe you can stand up for head coach Sean at this point because Colin Cowherd, fake soup guy, overall weasel,

did his listing of the top ten quarterback coach combos in the league.

He had you guys at eight, you and Sean, at eight.

Is he poking the bear right now?

I don't care.

Yeah.

I don't care about none of that.

Yeah.

Put your hat backwards.

Put your hat backwards.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Oh, he's going to be so low so low. Now he's 12.
Now he's number 13, 14. It's your quarterback.
You're dropping. I love it.
I love it. All right, Josh, I have one last question.
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Use promo code TAKE. 20% off your first-zips polos hoodies joggers shorts i'm wearing the shorts right now you'd look great in those shorts thank you you'd look great in those shorts um we actually just did a bills uh media thing where they came and they just asked us about you and they asked us what your work in the community like talk about josh's work in the community we don't actually know what you do in the community so we just we're like josh is incredible in the community all the stuff he does in the community, like talk about Josh's work in the community.
We don't actually know what you do in the community. So we just, we're like, Josh is incredible in the community, all the stuff he does in the community.
Do you want to shout out your work in the community? Cause you are, everyone, whoever asked me, they're like, what's Josh Allen? Like, I'm like, he is genuinely just a great dude. And the money hasn't changed him.
The fame hasn't changed him. And I think that shows with your work in the community.
Yeah. Yeah.
You still could do a do a heel turn we don't know we could we could help you with that yeah but what what's the big thing you're doing right now because i did feel bad after we did it it's like we literally don't know anything he's doing in the community we just know he's in the community no i think uh the patricia allen fun at osha children's hospital is something that i love um helping out with and just trying to raise money for kids and families that are going through unfortunate times. You know, I think I can recall as a kid, my brother had a rare disease and him spending some time in a children's hospital back in Fresno Valley Children's.
And just remember my feeling, remember seeing my parents, how they were feeling, how my brother's feeling. So it's something that I love to take part in and raising money for these families because i feel like i've been there right and um just little things like that man i i've got some really great partners and you talk about west her donating a lot of money to the patricia allen fund i think we've raised over was it now three and a half million dollars for that fund and it started because my grandmother passed away after or right before the Seahawks game a couple years ago and somehow there was like one fan that found out I don't know really how he did and he tweeted like let's donate 17 dollars to the Oshai Children's Hospital in honor of his grandmother and you know the next couple days it got up to like 10-15 thousand dollars and I was000.
And I was just, it was like, wow, I can't believe people would do that. And fast forward to now where we are, millions of dollars being raised for families and kids and buying technology to help doctors in there and nurses in there and give these kids the best help that they can get.
That is really great. That's also such a classic Bills fan story.
Yeah. I feel like they do that a lot where they find out that somebody needs something, don't even ask for it, but they just spring into action.
So yeah, good fan base. Great fan base here.
And they will build a statue of you if you win a Super Bowl. Just go win a Super Bowl.
Have you thought about that? Have you thought, because there is great sports stories. There's only a few left out there.
The Cubs won a World Series. LeBron went back to Cleveland and won an NBA title like being a quarterback for the Bills to win a Super Bowl like have you had that it gives me chills even saying it yeah it's cool it's just cool to be like uh like going after that that thing that is so elusive to a community yeah all I know is that I I have like dreams of what that parade would look like yeah Yeah.
We'll be there. It'd be amazing.
We'll be there. Oh, one last, last thing.
Your Halloween party this year. We were talking to Vaughn earlier.
Because you have the Halloween party here in Buffalo. He had his in Denver.
So he's kind of let you. He's like, okay, I'm not the Halloween guy here.
That's Josh. Right across the border is Toronto.
Our good friend Chad Kelly's up there up there you gotta invite chad kelly to your halloween party noted von miller hall of fame attendant of a can i plead the fifth that any of this yeah yeah yeah of course yeah yeah yeah um wing nuts i saw yeah yeah you were at wing nuts a great segue still gotta go have you guys tried room 40 yet no it's really good we're loyal to wing nuts where we try you guys tried Room 40 yet? No. It's really good.
We're loyal

to Wingnuts. Try it though.

It's here. It's like

down the street here. I was talking to Ed yesterday

and he was sharing all the great success

that he's had recently and the

best moments of having this restaurant and how he's

opening up the new one and

mentioned some guys on the Bills. I was like, has Josh been

there yet? He said, no, you know, I haven't.

I haven't seen Josh. It's just in the North Towns? They're opening a new location, though, by University of Buffalo.
I don't know if that's anywhere closer. Yeah, okay.
It's even further up. Okay, wow.
Swing and a miss. Go here.
It's room 40. Okay.
Yeah, it's a really good spot. Okay.
All right. I'll go if you go to Wingnuts.
Deal. Deal.
Wait, where are you guys going to go? Room 40. Room 40 is nuts in your mouth.
Oh! Let's go! You piece of shit. What a walk off.
Let's go! What a fucking walk off. We got Mike next.
God damn it. Yes.
We got Mike next. You got any questions that we should ask him? Who? Mike? Tony Hawk's brother, Mike? Yeah, Mike Cock.
Yeah. Yeah.
Fuck! I can't believe you got us that feels so good that's a win alright well I'll go to room 40 I was excited to go try room 40 go Bills I can't believe you got us Josh Allen was brought to you by our good friends over at BIC. We're all showing off our grit this week, but that doesn't mean we can't live that smooth life, too.
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Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, recurring guest. It is Buffalo Bills head coach Sean McDermott on Grit Week.
So let's start there. How would you define the word grit? What does it mean to you? Yeah, I mean, I think it means mental mental toughness right which i'm a big believer in and big proponent of i think you you got to have that in in life over all these days yeah is that why you guys are back in the dorms this year yeah this is a very gritty environment it does feel like a little bit of a throwback yeah and yesterday we lost power so we went about which was it's intentional.
That was intentional. Nice.
Yeah. Cut it.
I heard that comment. No, we did it intentionally just to kind of get back to our roots.
We only were able to have deli sandwiches for lunch. And so, yeah, it was just kind of like back to the olden days.
Yeah. So in the dorms, do you have a narc do you have like an ra that's in charge of yeah you know there's it's funny there's signs still on the hallways that say like um hey keep keep it down after a certain time and and because the the walls are really thin and so it makes me laugh that you know that's some of the stuff that still goes on yeah like it did when we were in college yeah no it's from it's from no i'm saying the professional

athletes have to deal with oh they got to see that yeah yes now last night outside of my room

one of our players pulled up he had this music pumping i'm trying to get some sleep you know

and i'm just like i couldn't wait till curfew for him to have to go inside yeah you know because

it was right outside my dorm room and i'm just like and I'm just like yeah all right let's go you're signed you're getting old I have exactly turn down the music please there's no way to say turn down the music and not feel like an old guy I know no wake zone yeah no wake zone so last year crazy year very emotional year for you guys what going into this this season, there had to have been a little bit, obviously it didn't end well against the Bengals, but a little bit after the season being like, wow, that was nuts what we went through. Like, it's going to be nice to start clean, fresh.
Is there any residual from like, you know, the DeMar thing, the Bengals loss, where are you guys clean page let's let's move forward here yeah you know every year there's adversity in the nfl on on a team's journey and last year just happened to it came in in in the form of a tidal wave really through through the things you mentioned and but i think you carry as much as you want to turn the page and that's important i think three- three-fourths of that's true. But you do carry about 25% of that with you in the form of some muscle, you know, as you learn kind of a little bit about yourself, about your teammates, about the organization, and then our community.
And I think it's, to me, we carry it forward with us in the way of, you know, mental and physical muscle and strength. Yeah.
I've been reading a lot of stuff coming out of this camp. Apparently the offense is looking pretty good.
How would you grade the job that your defensive coordinator is doing? Yeah. That remains to be seen.
I mean, he has some good days and some bad days, and if he doesn't get his crap together, I'm going to can him. Yeah.
How do you evaluate yourself, head coach, evaluating defensive coordinator Sean? Yeah talk i talk to myself in the third person when i do that you know you know it's interesting yeah yeah i mean what the hell were you thinking god damn it well i had a couple calls yesterday i told the defense in the meeting after practice i said hey that's on me i i put i didn't put you in position right and um but no you that's that's the kind of tear or the pull as a head coach anyway when you're an offensive defensive guy you you think you can never have a great practice because when you're going against each other you know it's never even right so you can never walk away go hey that was a great practice the offense played well defense played well that just doesn't happen one side plays well, the other side probably doesn't. So it's a mental, mental pull.
So not controversy, but a lot of talk about the fact that you put the Lombardi up in the facility. So on a banner.
No, don't stir it up. Here we go, man.
I'm just asking. We are superstitious guys.
I think that was a dumb move it was internally uh it's for us it's our internal purposes uh only and really it has nothing to do with anything outside or um expectations outside it's more of uh just believing in keeping one's vision and one's goals in front of them at all times and as a a daily reminder, because as we, as you guys mentioned a few minutes ago, there's a ton of adversity that tries to cloud one's vision in terms of getting in the way of the goal. And so it should be a goal every year, not only this year, but every year.
And we have 100% respect for all of our opponents. It's just really about us keeping our focus internally on what we're trying to accomplish.
No, I actually like the movie. It's crazy that becomes a story.
It's funny because the controversy is NFL head coach wants to win Super Bowl. It's like, come on, have some class.
Have some class, okay? Did you think about the clock, though? Because I'm more of a clock guy than a put-up-the-Lombardi, like the countdown to the Super Bowl kickoff, big clock in the facility. That one kind of always gets me going.
Yeah. I've been to some colleges and they have that countdown clock to the first opponent and the countdown so forth through the season to the second, third and whatnot opponent.
But I don't know. We just take it one step at a time.
That's really what we're all about. We're about respecting our opponents and putting in the work.
Are those moments when you put up a banner with the Lombardi and being like, this is what we're going for, and then the media is like, Sean McDermott puts up the Lombardi. You're like, how is this a story? It's training camp.
Yeah. Right? And so everyone's got to – they have a job to do also.
That's true. We've got a job to do.
They've got a job in the media. We pay your salary, actually.
There's no league without us. That's right.
That's a fact. You're playing in a parking lot.
Nobody would know that the football games were going on if me and Big Cat didn't talk about them on Monday morning. Right, exactly.
We can maybe cover up for that. Throw us some red meat.
What else are you guys doing? Some red meat. What else are you guys doing here at camp that's a little bit out of the ordinary that we can use to deflect from the fact that you're very disrespectfully telling everyone that we want to win a super bowl no we just we mind our own business up here i mean we try and go uh get to know each other when we're up here guys play some cards you know they they kind of bond a little bit up here and there's not a lot of teams that still go away right there's nothing probably less than a third of the teams go away we like to go away i think it gets guys out of the house and gets them a little bit more focused on building our team and the bonds that are necessary to build the chemistry and the camaraderie and and then put in the work that needs to be put in at least through the first um you know third or first half of training camp and then we'll go.
Yeah. We've kind of been at the forefront of reminding people that they should respect your ability to kick ass.
Mm-hmm. As, wait, you were a two-time, was it a state champion? Yeah, two-time national prep school champion.
When was the last time you wrestled somebody? I don't know. In my mind, every day.
Yeah. Oh, I like that.
Yeah. You sit across from someone and you're just saying, hey, I think I could kick your ass.
You size us up? Yeah. You sizing us up right now? Every room you walk into.
Are you sizing me up? I'm definitely sizing you up. I size you up the second you step into this room.
Really? I love that. I love that, man.
Yeah. That's awesome.
Yeah. That's a freaking wrestler's mindset.
I think I could just sit on you and win. I don't know.
Well, I don't know about that. That sounds kind of weird.

I go low.

We'd hold you down.

Big Cat could kick your ass.

When we're done, we'll just do that.

If you're a wrestler,

you have that,

and you wrestled for a number of years, you developed that mindset of

you feel you could kick anybody's ass. Yeah, we work with a guy who wrestled at kent state and he always will like give a little like you know the shoot and i'm always like no dude i don't want that yeah wrestlers are a different breed and it's kind of like i guess like martial arts and i've never done martial arts um but it's it's in a respectful it's a respectful mindset like you don't use it unless you have to, but it's always in your mind of it's there.
Yeah. Is there a part of you that wishes that you had gotten cauliflower ear? I did a little bit.
I had to get this one drained. Oh.
Yeah, my last season. That's always a good look though.
I love it. If you see somebody with cauliflower ear, instantly you're like not going to mess with that.
Respect, yeah. Yeah, total respect.
I'll tell you what's even better is if you watch if you watch the ncaa finals okay you watch the ncaa finals the interviews that they do um quinn sider i think does it after um after the final matches he interviews the the winner of the match and what they say you should record it it's it's lessons in life right yeah it's just uh it's powerful yeah those guys are just they're badasses they go through hell basically to wrestle every week yeah yeah and that's not quinn snyder i think it's uh another quinn we'll edit that out we'll edit this whole interview out um the whole thing just yeah uh crazy crazy story that i want to get your uh take on you were delayed for a flight was canceled in atlanta yeah you uh met a random bills fan you flew to pittsburgh and then you and the random bills fan i think your daughter all drove back together to buffalo yeah um that actually's right. That actually probably ties into you being like, I can kick anyone's ass knowing like, hey, I can, it doesn't matter.
Put a complete stranger in my car next to me. I'll whoop him if I need to.
So what was that like? I mean, was he just asking you a million questions about the Bills? That's an insane story and also one of the coolest stories for a fan. Yeah, check this out so we we're flying out of atlanta we get canceled which many flights get canceled these days right and so um in true buffalo fashion we're flying standby and we're my daughter and myself are like we're like number 19 and 20 of like 40 people trying to fly standby to get back to buffalo and of course course, we don't make it, but there's only three people that made it.
And each time that person's name got announced, in true Buffalo fashion, people were clapping in the gate for them. Like usually it's feast or famine.
Like everyone's just trying to, you know, hey, give me your pass to get on board. And everyone's clapping for people who are making it, right? There was a young mother and her young child, and so everyone's feeling good about them.
And then the rest of us are saying, hey, do you want to drive back? We're kind of teaming up, again, in Buffalo fashion. And then we end up flying to Pittsburgh, and that's the story you heard, you read.
And so my daughter and I are going to Pittsburgh, and someone comes into the gate,

and this Buffalo fan, and he says,

Hey, how are you getting back from Pittsburgh to Buffalo?

And I said, We got a car, which it was hard to get.

I mean, usually, especially late at night.

Right.

And so we get this car, and I wait for him in the baggage area, and off we go.

He sits in the front next to me. My daughter's in the back.
Eventually she falls asleep, and we're driving three hours from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania to Buffalo, and talking about you name it. The Bills, his coaching career as a young coach, and I'm very passionate about it.
And then he did tell me, he said, hey, I live right near you. And it turned out to be, you know, at 3 a.m.
in the morning, that's not 10 minutes away. It's not 15 minutes away.
It's not right near me. Right.
I thought he meant like the neighborhood over. Right.
He probably wasn't even from Buffalo. He just went to a random house.
He just brought me off on the street close to my house. I got to chill in the car.
We're sorry. No, but I think he has said his part of the story.
And it was, I think, a cool thing for him. But I got to tell you, it was just as cool for me just to talk shop, talk to a Buffalo Bills fan, and get his perspective on things.
And that's, again, what's unique to Buffalo, right, is the community, the bond with the community, the oneness. I think it's pretty special.
Did he give you any tips or anything where you're like, all right enough talking because like if i were sitting with you i'd be like hey have you you know have you thought about you know more fullback hill mary yeah or like fake fullback hill mary's yeah you guys tried that was that against houston yeah yeah that was a nice play fullback hill mary yeah or i would have brought up the which we went last time you're on like hey why didn't you leave nathan on? We were in the game. We were going for a record here.
We wanted 10 interceptions. Yeah, he brought up some of those.
And then I just said, hey, listen, we're not going to talk to rest of the trip. We're going to put the playbook away.
Next one that talks is, you know, whatever. So we played that game for a while.
Yeah. That's such an awesome story.
As a coach, have you reached the point where you just have stopped having the discussion with Josh Allen to try to protect himself because you know that he's just going to go nuts no matter what. And at the end of a play, he's going to try to extend it.
And being safe is nice in theory. But then in practice, once the blood gets going, Josh is going to be Josh.
Yeah. No, I tell him, I say, listen, when you, before you came on this job for me in 2018, I had a full head of red hair.
And ever since that day, it just keeps falling out because I keep saying to you, play smart, play smart, you know. No, but he's, listen, I don't think you ever change part, you know, totally that part because, or that piece, it's part of what makes him who he is.
He's a person and player and it's what's made him great right so it's just it's just adjusting right and that's what you do in your golf game you adjust things you tweak things and I think he just needs to as he knows as he said adjust some things and it's about keeping him healthy so we can win and it's hard to win when you don't have your starting quarterback yeah also. So last year, it felt like there were times when the offense could it was it was like kind of a boomer bus throwing it deep, not being able to get maybe those like long drives middle of the field.
It feels like drafting Dalton Kincaid, trying to maybe get some more slot receivers. Is that something you're focusing on? Like, hey, let's get some of these underneath yards, that the defense is going to play us a certain way because of josh's arm talent yeah

i think if we just we want to get like 20 play drives going and just not give i think just one

possession each half yeah like army army navy army navy wing t you know option triple option

get under center so we'll probably do a little bit of that probably a little bit of getting the

ball to dalton uh kinkade from time to time and then i don't know maybe like the fullback dive yes series there's a lot of things you can do off of that there is scoring too fast i don't want to bring it up but there is no it does exist i'm aware of that yes i'm aware of that it's basically a turnover that you happen to get points for yeah and then a defense is back out on the right i would. I would never want to throw a bomb.
No. I mean, listen, we're commanders and Bears fans here.
We hate scoring fast. Scoring fast is a problem.
Yeah. Because you also have a certain amount of points, and you don't want to use them all right away.
It's like, yeah, like in – that'll probably come up in, like, one of these video games that, like, the old Tecmo Bowl. You guys remember that? Yeah.
That was Nintendo. Br brings me back to my best friend he got his dad he was getting bad grades so his dad ripped his Nintendo out of the wall and threw it in the cul-de-sac at his in the street at his house like as a dad you have time to think through that right you not only are you mad yeah but you rip it out of the wall you march it from the back of the house to the front of the house and you have time to catch yourself like what am i doing throwing like a 500 thing in the middle of the street um and scarring my kid yeah and doing so but uh he got better grades after that so yeah the move my best friend uh dad did was and i still think how genius it was i'm gonna pull it on my kids someday uh he took the power cord and he said he hit it but he really just put in his car and took it to work every day so we would just like we spent the entire week looking for this cord and then on friday like oh i got the cord and then we didn't realize for like a year that he was just taking it to work every day yeah it's torture yeah but it's smart that's high level yeah that's high level parenting you're walking the nintendo out to the street at some point you're at the end of your driveway, and you're thinking to yourself, I really shouldn't be doing this, but they're watching me, and so I have to go through with it.
I'm committed. If I turn back right now, I'll look like a wimp.
And then you just throw it out of the street and destroy it on personal. And then you just launch it.
What do the neighbors think, number one? And then do you go clean it up? They probably think that you stink at the video game. And they're like, man, this guy really sucks.
This neighbor of ours, this dad must play video games like crazy. And he's pissed off.
We're a truth podcast. We never speculate.
We never have takes that are unfounded in facts. So we want to help you right here.
How's Stefan Dix? Everything's good? He's great. Because that was a lot.
I mean, people were saying crazy things we would never say crazy things never speculate i think hank said that he was basically quitting football yeah we had we had to jump in and take your side hey let's wait out for all the facts right we're not gonna just throw hank said that he didn't even report to camp or he didn't even show up here and i was like hank that's not true but hank is just living in a world of fake news yeah yeah'll get Hank right things are good how do you deal with a situation where it's like the media is snowballing and you know the facts and it's like it's hard to kind of pull it back and be like hey look listen guys like we're good we keep trying to keep team business team business and at the end of the, it's about getting on the same page,

and those take good, healthy conversations,

and then we move forward, and that's what you do.

Yeah.

And we're in a good spot, and the team's in a good spot,

and we move forward.

Yeah.

There's a lot of good Irish coaches in the NFL right now.

Have you noticed that?

I love this.

Yeah.

Tell me where you're going with this.

Oh, no, I want to get your thoughts on it. What is it irish guys that make some good leaders talk as you've got to talk about the irish coaches mcdermott mcveigh shanahan o'connell mccarthy mcdaniel mcdaniels a lot of irish guys yeah yeah no you're right i didn't i didn't even notice that really so that's almost a third you mentioned about what seven yeah, seven.
I probably left a couple out too. That's just off the top of my head.
Guys that are Irish that you don't even know they're Irish. Yeah.
Right. Right, Tomlin.
He might be Irish. He has limericks all the time.
Right. He's just like random quotes.
Yeah, he's a wordsmith. I had the honor and the pleasure of playing with mike in college and uh he he he um was the same way back then just saying things great leader yeah great leader had great command of the english language uh and had great control of his eyes at all times which i love watching his press conferences yes just watching those two things his hearing what he says and watching his eyes yeah yeah yeah i love that guy he's taught me a lot he locks in when he locks in on you it seems pretty intimidating for any reporter that's asking a question yeah it's a good quality to have i think in a head coach or or as a dad yeah yeah right true eyes everywhere eyes in the back of your head does it hurt a little more if you lose to a friend like does like you know i think it was a week one a couple years ago like does that sting a little more if you're going up against a friend versus a guy you have no relationship with yeah thanks for bringing that back up yeah sorry well your other friend this is this is about grit though this is about grit yeah so the grit tour so um yeah no it's uh you know whether it's andy and i'm fortunate i've been around some really good coaches who've gone on to become head coaches many out there now and um yeah there's always that it's kind of like in some ways you know going against your brother in the backyard and as much as you pull for them when when you're not playing them when you play them you want to you want to beat them yeah and they want to beat beat beat, beat me.
And, yeah, you kind of put a little bit more into it. Yeah.
Do you miss having Brian Daybull around? Yeah. You miss his D's nuts jokes? I'm not going there.
I'm not going there. I'm not going there.
All right. Well, last question.
This has been awesome. We asked this to Dan Campbell when we were in Detroit.
Just talk about football. What does football mean to you and you're it's okay if you want to cry he got a little misty eyed what does football mean yeah what does it what did he say uh he he literally was about to cry yeah he just talked about the game and how much he loves it yeah what it what it's done for him yeah i was thinking about it this morning i was working out this morning and it's the first day of pads for us here at camp and um that feeling never changes and I don't even play anymore and I've never played in the NFL but when you play from the time you're growing up you know as a little guy to the time you're in junior high high school then college and now for these guys as professionals the young professionals and now the older professionals I was talking to one of our veterans this morning he said it really the feeling doesn It's the same.
You're always a little bit on edge, a little quiet. That's how the dining hall was in college.
That's how it was this morning. Everybody's kind of in their own headspace, right? But I also think about, like, this is what I love to do.
I was walking around, jogging around the track this morning. This is what I love to do, man.
I love coaching football. I love competing.
And that doesn't change. And it's provided a livelihood for me and my family in an incredible way.
What a blessing it's been. And I'm humbled by it, right, to have this opportunity to go out and lead a group of men on the field and women and try and improve every day and embrace that growth mindset.
I think it's unique but special at the same time. I read that you are a big mindset guy.
I hear people talk about the importance of mindset and I guess various ways of looking at it and how that affects you from the mental side but also the physical side. When you say that you're a big mindset guy, what does that mean? Well, you know, I go, it goes back for me when I was young, my mom and dad, um, gave, when we were wrestling, gave my brother and I a book on mental toughness on grit, basically.
Um, it's probably, you know, one of the, one of the core cornerstones of mental, mental toughness training these days. And I can see the book in my mind still.
Um, and I kept So I just think it's important to have that in life and in sports in particular. I mean, life challenges you, and sports, professional football challenges you in a lot of ways, in particular mentally.
All these players have the physical capabilities, but who has the mental capabilities? Because you've got to train the mental even more than you've got to train the physical. Yeah, yeah.
We're mega mindset. Yeah, we are mega.
Well, thank you, Coach. Last time we had you on, you did say that we could live at your house if we wanted to go to Wingnuts, so we might still take you up on that.
You could do that. We went last night, so.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, did you go by my house or not? No, we're going to go tonight. We're going to tonight we're gonna stay in your house yeah just make sure you put sheets on the bed okay yeah you would get a bed that's huge i thought we're gonna be on and take my dog out while you're there okay i might steal your dog what kind of dog is it he's a uh his name's champ he's a he's a burner doodle okay is that you're jinxing yourself again yeah you jinxed it with a dog trophy and champ yeah we just hate it's developing a mindset in the mcdermott household there you go yeah yeah i mean i guess a dog name what do you want what do you want to call him first round exit uh yeah never won hey never won come on over here right never won you think he'd answer to that yeah no right he'd be he'd be trying to jump the fence and get out of there as soon as he could, man.
Yeah, that's true. Dogs know.
We're trying to train his mindset, too. Coach, thank you as always.
You're the best, and best of luck this year. All right.
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G, call 1-800-GAMBLER And now, here's Mount Rushmore Alright, Mount Rushmore time I was laughing because When we were about to do the ads, we're sitting in a hole And we don't have our computers And PFT was like, my phone's about to die Can I borrow yours? And I was like, no problem, and your phone is dead And as you were saying that Hank pulled out his phone that is plugged into a mophie in his pocket hey can i borrow that scumbag move i are pft's been here you had two pairs of gloves this whole time that's literally what just happened hang on hang on hang on let me put the cap on this body armor how many times have you used this mophie this week at once good question hank okay mount Okay, Mount Rushmore time. It is, what's the score right now? I don't know why Big Cap.
He just hates it. You stopped smoking weed.
That's what you did. How is that a front to you? It's good for you.
I'm going to dose you with weed. I'm going to start blowing it in your ear like a dog.
This is illegal. Big Cap and PFT 18.
The other two teams 16. Okay.
And who goes first? You guys first.

Okay.

Right?

Hank, you went first last time?

Yes.

You guys, us, Hank.

Oh, just a little clean up from Mount Rushmore on Monday.

That was actually worse of an idea than we thought it was going to be.

And we thought it was going to be the worst.

I didn't get a single text thanking me.

I got several texts.

Jerry O'Connell.

Yeah.

He didn't text me.

I got some angry texts. Oh, and you guys.
We picked. me.
I got some angry texts. Who's the most angry, Hank? My dad was upset.
What was he upset about? He's been on the show. Whitney texted me.
Edelman tweeted at me. It was not good.
My heroes were mad at me. That's never where you want to be.
It reminded me of a bachelor party I went on probably like 10 years ago where one of my buddies pulled out a whiteboard and was like, when we were all hammered at 3 a.m. and was like to the groom, he's like, why don't you rank all of us? And that was basically the same energy.
It's bad. It's an impossible.
You should never rank your friends. We did it.
It was stupid. We love all of our recurring guests.
When when you said i've got an idea coming out of the break after mount rushmore yeah i said yes before you said what the idea i thought that you were going to say let's do a different mount rushmore because i felt i felt so bad about it yeah every recurring guest moving forward they're just going to roast you guys that's fine we deserve it we deserve it but that was, it was entertaining-ish.

It was a mistake.

It was a mistake.

It was a huge mistake.

It was almost as big a mistake as doing a podcast in a hole, which is also a big mistake.

God, Steve and Lenny were picked.

Who?

Sing Ray Steve and Lenny Dick. Oh, yeah.

I didn't even remember them.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That seems like some animosity coming from Team Billy and Jake.

Well, Billy punted.

It's all right.

Who's allowed to pick today, Jake?

We actually had some good talks before this one. Okay'll see that doesn't mean anything billy do you think you had a good talk well they both yeah no we had a great time that's gonna be first of the draw yes yes okay so it's the mount rushmore of goats uh we have first pick we do all right so we will start the mount rush three no we're gonna start with one yeah you to start with one.
Yeah. You don't even know how you do.
Yeah, we do. We have a list.
Because Hank gave me his charger. Yeah.
C word, sorry. And it's Michael Jordan.
Easy. Easy pick.
Mike, MJ, the GOAT, the GOAT. Most MJ championships ever won.
Oh, no. Oh, you're talking about what, in the 1950s? He's the GOAT in basketball.
He's the GOAT in shoes. He's the GOAT in coolness.

He's the GOAT.

GOAT in earrings.

It's a good pick. Yeah.

It's a great pick.

It's a great.

Michael Jordan is the GOAT.

Yeah.

Michael Jordan.

Yeah.

So we had a 1A, 1B.

Yeah.

And you guys took one of our 1A, 1Bs.

Okay.

So it was a good pick.

Yeah.

It was a great pick.

You had a 1 and a 2 then.

No, no.

We knew you guys were going to take one of the two.

We also love taking Michael Jordan because we know that Hank will not take LeBron James, and he's not the GOAT, but we also know you won't do it, which you could to try to split the vote, but you won't. Yeah.
We're going to go with the GOAT in the sport that this podcast is made of, Tom Brady. Oh, good.
Oh, nice kick, Jake. Good kick,.
We had 1A1B, Jordan. Yeah.
Do you have any mics left that you can trade? Oh, man. Tom's definitely going to text you tomorrow and be like, what the fuck, Hank? I didn't have the chance to take him.
Otherwise, I obviously would have. He would have been your 1-1? Yeah.
Okay. So you have two picks, Max and Hank.
What should we do here? Let's just go. Two.
Here they go. All right.
Here they go. The numbers.
All right. We're going to go Tiger Woods.
Oh. He has the most majors? He changed the sport of golf ever.
Oh, he has the most majors? Just like Tiger. Wait, no, no.
What did you just say about Michael Jordan? Jack McClough. Jack McClough.
That's a good pick. And Bill Russell.
Wait, do you mean like the goat dad? Because his son Charlie is so fucking good at golf? He literally changed the sport of golf forever. He brought a new generation of fans to it.
The entire game is different because of Tiger Woods. And he has the most majors? That's not what it's all about.
Of course, Jack did. Jack pick.
Jack pick. If that was your logic, then...
Well, that was your logic when you said that MJ was not good pick. I wasn't denigrating.
I was just asking a question. You knew you were going to take Tiger Woods.
You still tried to do the Bill Russell thing? No, I didn't. I just was asking a question.
I didn't even mention Bill Russell. Okay.
So we're going to go Tiger Woods, then we're going to go Wayne Gretzky, the great one. Okay.
Good pick. Your second pick was fantastic.
I like it. Oh, the cat's back.
I think we go with it. Oh, that's a boy cat.
You don't see boy cats. Well, no, unneutered boy cats.
Well, I just assume all cats are girls. You don't see nuts hanging off a cat.
Yeah, yeah. That's true.
That's a barn cat. But do you not assume all cats are girls? I guess it's because you don't see nuts hanging off cats.
No, you really don't. That's a pair.
Yeah. He's got a pair of nuts.
Yeah, the cat's a beast. So this next one.
Frank Gore. Billy actually came up with it on his own.
He deserves the credit. It'll go on our team, but he likes it.
Trump? We're going with Joey Chestnut. Okay, good pick.
He is, I think, the best at his sport than anybody else. Okay, we go three and seven.
There's no close second to him. Does he have any L's? I don't think he has any L's.
Not on the grand stage. Maybe, I don't know.
I don't think he has any L's. He does have an L.
He lost to Kobayashi. Kobayashi, he also lost to...
No one remembers that. No one remembers that.
Who did he list? Stoney. Matt Stoney.
Oh, Matt Stoney. Yeah, Stoney.
But he's the GOAT. As of now, he's won more championships than I think anybody on this list.
Okay. He's the GOAT eater.
Did you just get an alert saying almost there, stand? Yeah. We're like synced up.
I just got it the same time. Well, we've been doing the exact same thing.
Yeah, that's true. I have been standing, though, because my nuts keep coming out like that.
You guys just did the numbers during Billy and Jake's picks. That was one of the most disrespectful things I've ever seen.
Correct. Damn.
I'm excited about our picks. I saw it.
You guys were doing the three and seven. We didn't care.
You were like three and seven. No, because that's a great pick.

There's nothing to say about that pick.

We had that pick.

We would have taken that pick.

That's a fact.

If they hadn't taken Joey Chestnut, we would have taken Joey Chestnut.

Oh, really?

Yes.

So that's why there was nothing bad to say.

That was absolutely a pick we were going to take right there.

So it was a good pick.

Thank you.

Yeah.

And we've got two great picks right now coming back at you.

All right, I'll go and then PFT.

We'll go with Muhammad Ali.

It's pretty easy one.

He couldn't really compete with Tyson.

He is the GOAT.

His book is the GOAT.

You only know about the term GOAT because Muhammad Ali was the greatest out of time.

The GOAT.

He's the GOAT.

Tyson Fury would beat him. Facts.
I don't know about that. That is facts.
I don't know about that. Okay, not facts.
And then our third pick, Nancy Reagan. Throat Goat.
Throat Goat, baby. Throat Goat.
The absolute Goat. Make sure it says Throat Goat in parentheses.
No, no, no. Is that allowed? No, that's not allowed.
No, that's not allowed. There's no nicknames.
Yeah, yeah. See? No, there's nicknames.
See? Nancy Reagan, parentheses, throat. We have never done nicknames.
That's why we were talking about big country, and that didn't get play. Okay, fine.
That's true. Nancy Reagan.
Great point, Bill. They'll know.
The people know. Yeah.
I really... No nicknames? Yeah.
Okay. Yeah.
Middle of third round, we're going with the fastest man alive Usain Bolt Okay We discussed him Okay Historically We think of running His first name comes to mind Historically He competes with anybody In any era He is the fastest man Okay What are they going with? What are they going with? Yeah. Oh, they're pumped.

You guys just talked about it during their pick.

No, we didn't.

Yeah, you did.

You did the same thing.

You did the same thing.

You kind of alluded to it earlier, even though you didn't give me the chance,

but we did have him on the list.

He is the GOAT.

We're going with LeBron James.

Okay.

Oh, God.

So, Hank, you think LeBron James is the GOAT?

He's on the Mount Rushmore.

Hank, you need to say those words. I think LeBron James is the GOAT.
I'm part of this team. Okay, go ahead, God.
So, Hank, you think LeBron James is a GOAT? He's on the Mount Rushmore. Hank, you need to say those words.

I think LeBron James is a GOAT.

I'm part of this team.

Okay, go ahead, Hank.

You think the same thing?

That was my pick.

Hank, you think the same thing?

That was my pick.

We're a team.

Okay.

They're splitting their vote.

And then with the final pick, we'll go with the greatest Olympian of all time, Michael Phelps.

Great voice.

We're probably taking him next.

Good pick.

Does he have the most Olympic gold?

I don't know, but in Beijing in 08, he won every race. He spoke weed once Yeah Greatest Olympian of all time He's got a great sounding voice Just a stud Fast Yeah but his medals are like Most dominant Most dominant performance Here's one for 100 meters of swimming Here's one for 110 meters of swimming Here's one for 150 meters of swimming They're basically all the same award The 2000 Was it 2008? The relay Comeback Part of that team One of the greatest highlights of all time I watch it every time It pops up He lost his team, one of the greatest highlights of all time.
I watch it every time it pops up. He lost his leg.
One of the great highlights of all time. Wait, Michael Phelps lost his leg? He lost his leg of the relay.
Oh. But he was still part of the team.
Wait, wait, come on. That's a swimming term.
Legs of a relay. I love our list.
He lost his leg. You feel good about it.
About LeBron. I love our list.
You won't even say it. It's a team effort.
I value my teammates' picks. You won't even say it.
Okay. It's a pick.
All right. Our final pick, Serena Williams.
Okay. That was on our list.
Yeah. That was a pick.
Also, going back, it's not even close about the Olympic gold, Michael Phelps.

Yeah, you had your time.

I just asked.

We probably know.

I was just saying.

Your time is.

We didn't have an answer.

We do 25.

We do 25.

We did web toes.

Yeah, 25 or 9.

Yeah, so Serena, not only what she did on the court, but that movie, King Richard,

just puts it in perspective, like how grind-breaking her and her sister were for the sport of tennis. She did more than Tiger Woods did for golf.
Good point, Billy. Let's do 25.
I don't think tennis players are getting paid the way golf players are getting paid now. Serena's awesome.
Yeah, no, good point. Are we the only ones with a woman? Yeah.
No, you're not. Yeah, Nancy Reagan.
Yeah, we have Nancy Reagan the actual the first lady are you the only one with a black person no you're not at that either no so what were you gonna finish the sentence you're the only ones combo combo nevermind next question okay that's what you call black women. Combo? Combo? Well, he just asked you two questions in a row.
That sounds like the worst slur of all time. Both.
Combos? Both. Okay.
Should we do it? They're going to be pissed. Yeah, yeah.
Let's do it. All right.
We'll go with the GOAT podcast listeners, the AWLs. Yikes.
Why? Back to back to back to back to back to back. They won eight takeies in a row.
It's a singular Mount Rushmore. The GOAT podcast listeners.
AWLs. So what is on the graphs? AWL.
AWL? Award-winning listeners. Are you protesting this? If it's AWL.
I love them. I literally love them.
Are you protesting? It depends what's presented. Are you protesting? How do you guys want it to present? AWL.
AWL. L's.
L. L's.
Goat. No, AWL.
L's. We almost chose pardon my take.
Yeah. So, are you protesting, Hank? Would you like to protest? It's just AWL.
Would you like to protest? No, I want to hear him say protest. I just think it's a singular category.
I want to hear you say protest. Say protest.
I didn't know we could do groups. If I may, if I may, Hank's going to be a little bitch about this.
He loves LeBron James and hates our listeners. I just want.
No, I'm not protesting. I want the listeners to know that we picked them.

We actually took them.

That's your pick.

Because we love them.

No, that's your pick.

We're not protesting.

We'll change.

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

I did not protest.

No, because we said the AWLs

and you're not letting us

put an apostrophe S

so we'll do a different pick.

I didn't protest.

That's your pick.

That's your pick.

Can it be on the graphic

award-winning listeners, AWLs.

And Throko.

No.

No Throko.

AWLs.

An acronym, award-winning listeners? No, just AWl apostrophe s sure sure wait a posh no it's not a positive awl and then a much smaller font for the s yeah who called it awls was it tommy lasorda definitely not yeah tim one's called the Alls. I think Tommy was sort of the AOLs.
All right. So AWL, phosphoresimal.

Yeah.

Okay. All right, what did we miss? Secretariat.
Secretariat would have been our pick if you promised. Paul Rabel, low key.
Alex Trebek is great. Messi.
Messi. I was going to pick Messi.
Djokovic. I was going to take Lil Wayne.
Jake. Most majors, yes, but there's a debate to be had.
That's all I'm Kart the video game MVP Baseball 2004 The video game Michael Vick and Madden Fleetwood Mac Rumors I wanted to do music Maybe we do music goats It's hard We. You can't...
We could maybe do music goats for another... Dire Straits.
We had Jesus on there? Yeah. I thought about doing God.
Did you not want to do Belichick? He was on the list. Belichick and Saban? We had Blue Mountain State football team.
We had Bob Barker. Blue Go have been a terrible pick.
Good job, Jake, denying that.

Good captain.

There was some desert bighorn sheep.

Technically, goats.

There's other goats we had if it got out of the goat.

You're making this worse.

We ran out of goats.

The Simpsons.

It's a goat TV show.

Do you feel good with LeBron?

Dr. Klaus.

That's better.

Babe Ruth. You're wrong, Max.
At wrong Max Babe Ruth They would have shot down You gotta put your pride aside I'm competing for a championship Babe Ruth would have been Then If you're competing for a championship We know that you'll Lose more than you win Yeah I know but I picked LeBron Yeah I like. I let Max have a voice.
They got weird stuff.

They have two non-athletic goats.

Nancy Reagan. Nancy Reagan is definitely an athletic goat.

You know the lung capacity?

She's got better lung capacity than Michael Phelps.

Absolutely.

But that's like a myth.

You know how long she can hold her breath?

No, it's a confirmed fact.

That's not confirmed.

It's a myth.

I know that you want to defend the Reagans at all costs, but this is a fact.

No, I'm not.

No.

We should have taken both Trump and Obama. Trump was on the list, too, just for fun.
But we've already done that this year. You guys, do you have a second place just for that? Genghis Khan.
Genghis Khan. We talked about Genghis Khan.
He's the genetic goat. He's the genetic goat.
He's spread his The Barthamas Prime. Yeah, that's a good one.

I wonder who, Wilt Chamberlain or Genghis Khan?

Mr. Rogers.

We were also going to... Goku.

We should do the goat things because we were dipping into, like, should we do things too?

Coors Light.

Yeah.

Ice cream.

We could do that as a Mount Rushmore.

Goat things.

Okay.

Good Mount Rushmore. Everyone feel good?more.
Goat things. Okay.
Good Mount Rushmore.

Everyone feel good?

Yeah, I feel great.

Okay.

Should we go to our last segment?

Yeah.

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Oh, we forgot one thing. Someone's got to shave.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
I have shaved. Please.
I thought we were going to. You thought we were going to forget? I need to shave.
I think that Shane should be added to it. I think that Evan should be added to it.
Okay, well, we have Billy, Jake, Hank, Max, PFT. That sounds right to me.
Memes? You know what? I'm going to actually even be such a good guy because I actually put your name twice, Hank. I'm going to delete the second one.
I love you so much. Memes, I don't think you even...
You shaved this morning, probably.

What about memes?

I think memes shaved already.

Shane, yeah.

Add Shane and memes there.

Yeah.

Here we go.

Let me see.

I'm witnessing.

Please be me and you shave.

What did it say?

I didn't see that.

You wrote the name in there.

Are we allowed to shave?

Today?

Yeah, but that's not...

Okay, I'll go again.

Wait a minute.

That's fine. This is insane.
I I'm witnessing I don't trust you either Pick a random name It's Jake Okay, there you go, Jake Jake's gotta shave Damn, Jake This is honestly the worst Because if I get it on Friday I would rather get it earlier in the week than later in the week What do you guys want me to shave? Your chest No, you have to shave. With the razor? Yeah.
No, you just have to shave your face. Yeah, shave your face.
Wait, have you shaved this? Are you serious? I swear, I get red. Is this a joke? I've been using electric razor my whole life.
Out of the hole. Sit down.
Hey, talk me through what you're thinking right now. I just can't believe what, I can believe it, actually.
Jake, get out of the hole. Sit down.
I feel like if we asked Jake his allergies, he would pull out like a scroll that would just hit the ground and roll out for like 20 miles. Jake, why don't you leave the hole? I don't know.
Just step out of the hole. Take a step out of the hole.
Just step out of the hole, Jake. For a second.
Just take a step out of the hole. Okay.
Get out of this hole. Man with shaving cream allergy.
Can't be in a hole. Jake, come back in the hole.
Come on back in, Jake. We love you.
You just need to take a time out of the hole. Oh, my God.
Jake, what else are you allergic to? Give us the whole list. Dogs, cats, shaving cream, maybe chocolate.
I've never liked chocolate, but sometimes I get red and blue when I eat chocolate-heavy things. Ice cream sandwiches and Oreos are fine.
It's not full chocolate. What else? Ray Allen Tweet.
Ray Allen Tweet. Grass? Lying.
Are you allergic to lying? Bermuda grass, technically. That's that's golf I feel like I drew out of that one Because I've been on a lot of golf courses Okay That's what I can think of At the top of my head Yeah Not worms Yeah Yeah Yeah not worms How's that worm We don't know that yet The problem with worms is Sometimes when you eat When you eat a female worm They have eggs And then they can lay eggs in your stomach And then you can get just worms in your poop for forever.
That's bullshit. I'm excited to try out this big razor.
That was a lie, Jake. I can't have you.
Earthworms die in stomach acid. Hank's face when Jake said that.
I was crying laughing watching Hank. I found out once I got pie in the face of shaving cream.
I just got so itchy and red everywhere. It was crazy.
I love you. I have not used shaving cream since then.

I love you. Alright.
Wait, did you just dry

shave? Yeah, just take an electric razor and go like...

Alright, guys on trucks.

My 94-year-old grandpa

has his entire life in his truck.

Mostly in coffee cans.

He also has every tool imaginable

just in case he'll need it. The coffee

cans are for nails, screws, or other parts.

And of course, nothing's labeled.

I remember one time opening up every single one to get a part, and he looked at them and found it on the first try. I love it.
No, that's such a classic grandpa. My grandpa had the same thing in his truck.
It was like 1960 Datsun. I don't think they even make it anymore.
That's just an old grandfather move, and he knew where everything was too. just it's like a filing cabinet for an old guy yeah this grandfather rocks cause truck guys rock anyway but to have just like 50 coffee cans that just has your whole entire life in it that guy rocks my truck has got me through life so far the song if it wasn't for For Trucks by Riley Green is very true.
The best moments in life happen in a Chevy Silverado, and the adventures are limitless. That just sounds like an ad.
Yeah, that was great. Wait, that was the whole thing? Yeah.
Oh, love that. Hey, my buddy has a really nice truck and doesn't even back in, even in his own driveway.
He is not a truck guy, right? No, because I think sometimes the guys that go out of their way to back in their truck so everybody will look at their truck, that's kind of anti-truck in itself. No, I disagree.
Okay, give it to us. You got to back in the truck.
You always have to back in the truck? Because then when you can load the truck, it's easier to load. That's true, from your garage? Or anywhere.
Yeah. Yeah, I never even thought about that.
You got to back in your truck. I mean, when it's time to load something, then you can just back it in at that point.
You don't know when you're going to have to load something because part of being a truck guy is going in somewhere and be like, oh, we need to carry that. Yeah.
Sometimes the loads sneak up on you. What about Billy grocery store? Do you just front in because you're going to load it in the back? No.
If you're pulling up to the grocery. Yeah.
You got to. If you park in a grocery store parking lot.
Okay. You front in.
That's a good point because the front is the back. Or Home Depot.
Home Depot is different. You pull up.
Pull to the loading center. True.
Afterwards. Yeah.
All right. We checked it out.
That's true. Last one.
Real question. Billy just said something really deep there.
Did you guys catch that? He was like, that's a good point because at a grocery store, the front is the back. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Facts. Good point, Billy.
Whoa. Can owning a truck help with your golf game? Asking for a friend who's really struggling even though all he does is golf.
Thanks. Jake, is that you? Hank, talk us through the glove.
Again, I tried to preface it with my fire fest so i've gone i've gone into pro shops and asked for a righty glove and they've given me a glove on my from my right hand which is what left handers use so that was a mistake i then took that glove put in my bag forgot about it showed up to frankie's course i don't even think i slept really we were recording until like 5 30 in the morning then i drive straight to the golf course i think you said in the video that you got four and a half hours of sleep for yeah that was also probably a lie for work uh quick question did you get there early enough did you use up till 5 30 you guys were yeah hang no i drove memes home i think oh okay did you get to the golf course early enough to use the driving range i did i made sure i was up early enough to get the driving range driving range was closed they were mowing the driving range didn't get to warm up on no sleep uh pretty much was still doing the podcast at that point and i just grabbed a glove out of my bag you grabbed a glove and a glove and a nice plastic cup of Stella Blue, right?

And accidentally grabbed the right-handed glove, which is for lefties.

And when Frankie called me out, I was too embarrassed to admit it,

so I tried to say I do this all the time, but I don't.

And it was a tough look, and then I proceeded to go out and shoot an 8

and a 7 on the first two holes.

That was an 8 and an 8.

8 and an 8, sorry.

And I've just, you know, the roast has continued. Like I said, I prefaced it with my Fyre Fest.
It's been bad. Programs and shambles.
The summer's coming to an end. I'm not going to be able to golf much anymore.
And I want to prove it to myself. I want to prove it to the AWLs that I'm not as bad as it's looked.
You aren't as bad as it's looked recently. No, you're not.
You're not. You're not as bad.
No. No.
You're not as bad, Hank. It's just that every single time that you do it on camera, you're very, very bad.
Yeah, I know. I know.
So do you think a truck would help? Probably. Yeah, there's only one way to find out.
Yeah. I mean, you've got to take it with everything.
Put your glove in a coffee can. Yeah.
Yeah, it's been bad. It's been bad, but that's fine.
You'll figure it out. Yeah.
Okay. It was when hank stepped up to the tee with his right hand in the glove and frankie was like do you yeah like what do you do you always do that and hank's like uh yeah yeah i do for a second i was like maybe hank just figured out a way to break golf maybe that's the right hand to put it on yeah oh yeah that was there was no getting out of that one hank i just want you to get to a point where you could shoot a good number? 18.
69. Fuck! Oh, damn.

Guys, set that one. Hank, I just want you to get to a point where you can shoot a good number.
18. 69.
Fuck. Guys, set that up.
Are these counting? Am I keeping track of these? Sure. Thank you.
3. 8.
20. It's not going to be 69.
I'll go 52. Memes, you ever gotten this? Hank just took his number.
Oh, no. Shane? 10.
Okay. Watching? Memes is one.
69. Nine.
Oh, almost. So close.
Nine. All right, subscribe to the part of my take YouTube and watch this episode because I think we're going to finish this episode with fireworks.
Out of the hole. Love you guys.
Humans are the longest living land mammal. I'm talking away.

I don't know.

I'm to say I'm saying anyway.

Today is another day to find you.

I'm coming for your love again.

I'm coming for your love again.

I'm coming for your love again.

Take on me. take me on I'll be gone, after I'll be Needless to take, I'll be so little quick When the life is okay, stay asleep It's no better to be safe and sorry.
It's better to be safe and sorry. It's better to be safe and sorry.
Take on me. Take me on.
I'll be gone In a day of day

Thank the stars this Friday

I'm burning like a fire

Gone wild on Saturday

Guess I won't be coming

To church on Sunday

I'll be waiting for love

Waiting for love

To come around.

All the things that you say, you know I've lost, just to blame our worries away.

You're all the things I've got to remember, you're shying away.

All the coming through anyway.