Lions Head Coach Dan Campbell To Start Grit Week 2023, Mt Rushmore Of Best Recurring Guests + Monday Reading

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Speaker 1 On today's part in my take, it is grit week 2023,

Speaker 1 our eighth grit week. We're starting in Buffalo.
We're doing a, we're moving Max and memes from New York to Chicago.

Speaker 1 Old school grit week, like the first one, Rust Belt Grit Week.

Speaker 1 uh and we have a great show for you we have dan campbell head coach of the detroit lions awesome interview mr grit he is mr grit one of those interviews that we just came out of being like i could talk to that guy forever he just pumps you up uh slight spoiler alert we might have made him cry so that was a moment Football might have made him cry.

Speaker 1 Football might have made him cry.

Speaker 1 We're going to do what could be the most contentious Mount Rushmore that we've ever done.

Speaker 3 Not just for us in this room.

Speaker 1 For everyone. For a lot of people.
For the people we're talking about and for the AWLs voting on it. It is the Mount Rushmore of Recurring Guests on Pardon My Tape.

Speaker 3 I'm excited for that.

Speaker 1 The meanest thing we've done. Yes.

Speaker 1 So, and then we're going to talk football, who's back of the week, and we have a Monday reading. Great show to start off, Grit Week.

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Speaker 5 I'm no way that nobody wants to. Electric on my

Speaker 5 Pardon my fake because I'm my brother for sports.

Speaker 1 Welcome to pardon my take.

Speaker 1 Today is Monday, July 31st. And more importantly, welcome to Grit Week presented by Coors Light.
It's Grit Week, boys.

Speaker 1 We're here.

Speaker 3 That's the gritty version of Electric Avenue you just listened to. Yeah.
It comes but once a year, and we're in Buffalo, the grittiest city ever.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was a that was a Hank forgot to tell Max.

Speaker 3 That's grit week. That's grit week, Max.

Speaker 1 We don't give each other directions on grit week. We just do the job.

Speaker 3 We just know, yeah, exactly. We put our hard hat on and we fucking roll.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I love Buffalo.

Speaker 3 I love Wing Nuts.

Speaker 1 I saw some people complain that we're in Buffalo again. We had to come back to Buffalo to see Ed and Alicia.
We have a great video with them.

Speaker 1 And we're also moving Max and memes literally from from New York to Chicago. They have stuff on the RV.

Speaker 1 It's a throwback grit week.

Speaker 1 Rust belt.

Speaker 3 How did Wingnuts hit for you? Because I'm happy to announce that it hits the same.

Speaker 3 We opened up the new restaurant. We had the first meal ever eaten at that restaurant.
It's not officially opened for another 10 days or so.

Speaker 1 Yeah, August 9th, big day.

Speaker 3 And the fryers on.

Speaker 1 It's fantastic. Yeah.
Oh, no, August 9th is their fifth year anniversary.

Speaker 3 Fifth year anniversary. Yeah, I think they're opening on August 10th.
Yes.

Speaker 3 The day after the big day.

Speaker 1 The day after the big day. So

Speaker 1 grit week. We're here.
Ready to go. Feeling good.
Everyone feel good? I'm fired up. I took a shower.
You're so fired up, you were complaining about how early we had to wake up tomorrow.

Speaker 6 No, no, false.

Speaker 1 That's a fact.

Speaker 6 I took a shower, got some nice shampoo soup, and I got out of the shower. I was like, I'm ready to go.
I'm more worried because I'm so fired up. I'm not going to be able to sleep.
That's my concern.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 3 Interesting. So fired up.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And we have the finale of the Billy Football Story Arc.
Billy, you're here.

Speaker 7 I have no idea where we're going this week.

Speaker 1 I haven't.

Speaker 1 I said it twice.

Speaker 3 Yeah. And we've also, I think, been talking about it for the last two months.

Speaker 7 Yeah, but I still don't, like, I don't really listen here.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 But it's where do you think we're going next?

Speaker 7 Rust Belt.

Speaker 1 Oh, here we go.

Speaker 1 What's in the Rust Belt?

Speaker 7 All the Rust.

Speaker 3 Where do you think that we're stopping tomorrow?

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 1 we're going to the training camp. Yep.
But after that, not really sure.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.

Speaker 3 Yeah, this is the actual, it's a microcosm of the Billy Football Greater Story Arc.

Speaker 1 Just along for the ride, yeah, yeah, here he is, folks. So, we got a great show for you, Dan Campbell coming up.

Speaker 1 Jake is uh, was just finishing the NV5 Corn Fairy tour, so he will be joining us tomorrow. We actually should call him.
Should we call him? Yeah, see how he did.

Speaker 3 I want to congratulate him. I want to hear where he came up with the closing line.
It is the Crow Show.

Speaker 1 It is the Crow Show. Let's see.
All right, so we're going to call Jake real quick.

Speaker 1 Let's get it.

Speaker 1 Make sure you tell me what's being recorded. Oh, good point.

Speaker 3 Big jay stuff

Speaker 3 he probably knows this is right this is daniel catch from part of my take

Speaker 1 this might be the first time i recorded you

Speaker 1 thank you all right i didn't i didn't say anything

Speaker 1 hello yeah i didn't say anything what do you mean thank you

Speaker 1 i was talking to some i was talking to alistair

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. All right, Jake, we're recording part of my take right now.
You are live on the show.

Speaker 1 Give us real quick, because we were saying you're not here.

Speaker 1 How'd you do this weekend?

Speaker 1 I thought the entire team did a really good job. I think for everyone's first golf broadcast,

Speaker 1 I was really happy with how it all went. It's a really fun sport to call, especially down the stretch, the drama just building up those last 30 minutes.
Two playoff holes.

Speaker 1 I was really happy with how everything went.

Speaker 3 Hey, Jake, PFT Commenter from part of my Take Sports podcast, Barcelona Sports. It really seemed like you and Kirk got into a nice little camaraderie at the end.

Speaker 3 The tension kind of melted away how would you say your relationship developed

Speaker 1 yeah i mean he's just not a nice person when the cameras are rolling

Speaker 1 shattering news like you would admit that too that's just who he is and i've accepted that but i'm proud of myself for not letting him walk all over me and i had to push back yeah i think he respected you because you you like you lived yeah yeah that was a great back and forth the tension was great uh yeah the whole thing was was incredible now anything we wish we had back

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 Huh? Anything you wish you had back?

Speaker 1 The guy lost it. I mean, he went, he got there in two.

Speaker 1 Who are you talking about? What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 Patrick Fishburne got there in two. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He hit a green

Speaker 1 in regulation.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 So was he? The other guy laid off. How close was he?

Speaker 1 I think like 20 feet, 50 feet. Oh, wow.
That's a shot of a lifetime. Hey, Jake, PFT comic, part of our tech sports podcast.

Speaker 3 Is that the only time you think that guy has ever reached a par five and two?

Speaker 1 No, but I don't know. Did he win?

Speaker 1 Wait, did he win? He did not win. The other guy sunk a birdie putt.
That's bad when you lose with a shot of a lifetime when you're round.

Speaker 1 No, I thought that was the only one. That was the only one, Jake, where I was like, shot of a lifetime.
It was tough when he lost that playoff.

Speaker 1 I think, I think, yeah, but I think I nailed his eagle putt to tie it.

Speaker 3 Oh, after he reached the green and won under regulation, the hole.

Speaker 1 Oh, you'd already done that before.

Speaker 3 It was actually the hole before.

Speaker 1 Wait, he had hit an eagle on this hole, and then you gave him a shot of a lifetime?

Speaker 1 Yeah, because the other guy was laying up. It seemed like it was over at that point.

Speaker 3 Jake, we honestly think you did a very good job.

Speaker 1 You did a great job, Jake.

Speaker 3 You did a great job. I have one last question.
Billy has the mic solo tonight for Mount Rushmore. Mount Rushmore of recurring guests.
How much do you trust Billy?

Speaker 3 And have you guys discussed what your picks will be?

Speaker 1 I sent him 12 guys just off the the top of my head. Oh, all guys? Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 12 recurring guests that I think could be in the running. I didn't give any ranking.
So it's Billy's got the ball tonight. I hope he can deliver.
And we'll see.

Speaker 1 I hope he can give you a shot of a lifetime.

Speaker 7 Guys is gender neutral.

Speaker 1 God, I really wasn't thinking much about it. Now I'm going to.
Oh, yeah. No, you should.
It was, yeah.

Speaker 1 You did a great job, Jake. Jake, here was my test was if we would give a regular announcer shit for that, and we would.
So it's only fair. But you were great otherwise.
So it's not.

Speaker 1 Yeah, thank you. I can't be perfect.
I definitely. Right.

Speaker 1 It didn't ruin the rest of the broadcast, but that was a moment where the minute it happened, I was like, I'm going to have to give him shit about this.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know, I think I was ready for the

Speaker 1 biggest moment was the Crow Show. I thought I nailed that.
You did. You did.

Speaker 1 Final thought. And that's...

Speaker 1 Yeah. Like, if I could go 90%,

Speaker 1 I'll take it. Yeah.
Yeah. All right.
Well, we'll see you tomorrow, Jake. Safe flight.
And

Speaker 1 we're going to find a way to get wing nuts again, okay?

Speaker 1 Oh, amazing. Thank you so much.
I'll see you guys smile. Okay.
Love you, Jake. See you, Jake.
Love you. Love you.
Love you too.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Your shot of a lifetime was tough.

Speaker 6 I mean, you just ruined his night.

Speaker 1 Maybe. A little.

Speaker 3 It might have been the shot of a lifetime.

Speaker 1 We don't know from his perspective.

Speaker 1 Oh, he did a great job. He was fantastic.
Again, I think that that's actually the step.

Speaker 1 We can't just go kid gloves. No, we would, if, if Tony Romo had said that, if, you know,

Speaker 1 a lifetime in a game that they lose. Right.
If Jim Nance said it, we would have, we would have had fun with it. That doesn't mean Jim Nance is a bad announcer.
He was a goat. He was a goat.

Speaker 1 He had a very good shot.

Speaker 3 It was a very good shot. It was a shot of his last 10 minutes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. And actually, the putt that the other guy made was a bigger shot on that one.

Speaker 3 Maybe more impressive.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but either way, great job by the whole broadcast crew. I thought the Kirk Jake

Speaker 1 tension was hilarious. Riggs, Frankie, Dan, Francis, Trent, everyone, everyone behind the scenes.
So, yeah, good job. That's where Jake is.
All right.

Speaker 1 What else we got to talk about before we get into the rest of Grit Week Talk?

Speaker 3 Robert and Jim.

Speaker 3 Or no, excuse me, not Robert. Jonathan Taylor.
Jonathan.

Speaker 1 Jonathan Taylor. Robert Taylor.
R.I.P. R.I.P.
Robert Trailer.

Speaker 3 Robert Trailer. Big Tractor Trailer.
Trailer. Big Tractor Trailer.
Yeah. Jim Merce has been on one for the last 48 hours.
And so him and Jonathan Taylor are going at it.

Speaker 3 It started with the beef over running backs not being paid well. Jonathan Taylor's up next to get paid.
And apparently Jim Ursay had a one-on-one meeting with him on Saturday. And

Speaker 3 Ursay left the meeting saying, if I die tonight and Jonathan Taylor is out of the league, no one's going to miss us. The league goes on.
We know that. The National Football League rolls on.

Speaker 3 Fast forward 24 hours. Jonathan Taylor is not showing up to camp.
He's complaining of back pain. The Colts say that's a pre-existing injury.
It has nothing to do with football.

Speaker 3 We're thinking about now putting you on the non-football injury list. And this is after Jonathan Taylor has requested a trade.

Speaker 3 So they're playing a little game of chicken.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they wouldn't have to pay him. They would not have to pay him this year.
And he would not complete his rookie contract. Yep.

Speaker 1 If they put him on this non-football injury because he got hurt back in training in Arizona solo. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 So basically, they had, he had this meeting with Jim Ursay. Ursay pretty much told him, no one cares about you.

Speaker 3 Let's focus on you showing up to work this year. And just remember, the league's bigger than you.

Speaker 3 Jim Ursai is not entirely wrong that that's how kind of the league looks at all their players, where everybody's replaceable except for maybe two or three guys in the entire league. Yeah.

Speaker 3 So he's not entirely wrong about that. Maybe a little bit too honest.

Speaker 1 It was one of those quotes that

Speaker 1 probably didn't need to be said, but it's factual. Yeah.
Like his point point is the NFL is bigger than everyone.

Speaker 1 There is no one person, himself included, Jim Urce included, that could slow down what this thing does.

Speaker 1 It's just a very like nihilistic, you know, kind of like, damn, this whole world's going to.

Speaker 3 That's the perspective you get after doing like 30 years of hard psychedelic drugs. Yeah.
Aaron Rodgers would listen to Mr. Ursay and be like, yeah, no, he's right.

Speaker 1 Isn't that a

Speaker 1 Trill Withers

Speaker 1 tweet? She's going to spend the whole rest of her life not thinking about me or something like that?

Speaker 1 Like, that's kind of what it is. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Like, oh, damn. Yeah.
You know, it's true. So, so Taylor demanded a trade afterwards, and then the Colts now have him on a technicality, basically saying, you better actually play for us.

Speaker 3 We're not going to trade you.

Speaker 1 Ball's in your court right now. He will play.
Yes. I think he will come and play.

Speaker 1 It does suck because it's, I mean, it just goes back to the same conversation we've had like four times. Sucks for running backs.

Speaker 1 And it sucks, especially if you get hurt outside of the football facility and they can pull this technicality on you.

Speaker 1 Jim Ursa, though, the best part was because he had that quote, people were just retweeting old Jim Ursa tweets.

Speaker 1 And he's got some bangers.

Speaker 1 2011 was just Jim Ursa just shooting from the hip.

Speaker 3 I think he said, like, Vice President Joe Biden is six foot seven, tallest vice president ever. Yeah.
That's his version of the Terry Roser tweet. The Obama.

Speaker 1 Here we go. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 Joe Biden tall as hell. Yeah.
He should have hooped instead of of trying to kill people.

Speaker 1 I screenshotted a couple. These are all from 2011, 2012.
He said, there ain't much to country living. Sweat, piss, jizz, and blood.
Sweet home, Alabama. Play that dead band song.

Speaker 1 It's a Warren T Von lyric.

Speaker 3 Yep. Yep.

Speaker 1 I'm a sweet and tender hooligan. Time is short.
There's a lot of lyrics mixed in. Time is short and the days are sweet and passion rules the arrow that flies.

Speaker 6 The weed one.

Speaker 1 There's purple juice, purple berries, purple drink. These are all different things.

Speaker 1 In Miami playing Angry Birds in Hotel Room, one of them suckers hopped out of my phone and bit my dog howard right in the ass too much caffeine yeah

Speaker 3 psychedelic yeah that one was that was not a warren zivon quote no that one wasn't uh also ursay at the start of training camp today do you see him on the golf cart he was driving out on the practice field and there's this guy that's in the stands that yells at him jim i never win one of your twitter giveaways and so Ursay, in an all-time power move, he's got an envelope with him and he reaches out from the golf cart to a security guard that's there.

Speaker 3 He's like, here, I can't stop the cart, but you give this to him. Hands the guy an envelope, walks up to the dude in the stands, hands him that envelope.
And the guy looks at it.

Speaker 3 He's like, oh my God, Jim Ursa, just gave me $2,000. And then he starts going through it.
He's like, and he autographed it. What a fucking flex.
Jim Ursai autographs money.

Speaker 3 I mean, if it's a $100 bill and it's Jim Ursai,

Speaker 3 you could say that's game worn for him.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 Game used merchandise. And so he does an autograph and he signs it right on Ben Franklin's face, hands it to the guy.

Speaker 1 I would, if I were, if I were a billionaire like Jim Mercy, I would do that all the time. Yeah, I'd just be handing people racks.

Speaker 3 You do that one once every day. You give away $2,000 once a day, and then everyone's like, wow, this guy's basically a philanthropist.

Speaker 1 Just make someone's day.

Speaker 1 $2,000 is nothing to Jim Mercy. It's everything to someone else.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 7 My buddy's a caddy down in Florida. And whenever Jim Mercy goes to the course, he has like three racks for everybody and just hands them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what I would do.

Speaker 1 I would tip double like the bill on every big meal. I'd tip, you know, caddies, everything.

Speaker 1 It's just awesome.

Speaker 3 Tip everybody, everyone you come across. Why not? Here's a tip.
Here's a tip.

Speaker 1 Here's a tip. Here's a tip.

Speaker 3 Be like that scene, Goodfellows, where they're walking in the back of the Copa Cabana. Just ripping shit off for people.

Speaker 7 He carries a duffel bag in the golf cart that's just filled with 3K.

Speaker 3 Increments. He loves his duffel bags of cash.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That, I mean, a duffel bag, 3K is not that much. No, no, no, but he has a three, like he has you're not good with cash.

Speaker 7 Oh, he has like 100k.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay, all right, 3k. Oh, and 3k infrastructure.
Okay, god, that was like, that's a lot of empty space if it's just 3k in a duffel.

Speaker 1 He's handing out 3k to everybody, cart girls, taddies.

Speaker 3 We should start doing that. Just duffel bags filled with ones.
We should just deal with Zimbabwe currency.

Speaker 1 We should just give away counterfeit money. Yeah.
I mean, what if there you go? Like, is it a crime to give away counterfeit money? If we don't spend it, yes, definitely.

Speaker 1 If we don't try to spend it, it's definitely a felony yeah what if it's very clearly counterfeit money you're just now you're just talking about like pieces of paper yeah no we give away money that you get the reaction where the person's like holy shit you just gave me a thousand bucks and then it's just hank's face on the on the on the bill yeah i like that like that would be you you have the rap you know that says like a thousand dollars and then we just hand it to them and you get you just got to move away quick enough before they realize it's fake i think that could play yeah because the moment lasts forever for you yeah you have that moment and we also film all of it.

Speaker 3 Yeah. And then we cut the video before they realize it's not Benjamin Franklin.
It's Benjamin Hanklin.

Speaker 1 Now this sounds like we're just doing a full send sketch.

Speaker 1 I kind of like it. Oh, how about this?

Speaker 3 We put poop on the money. Yeah.
And then we leave it on the ground and people find the poop money.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Poop dollar, my friend once in college was fucking hilarious.

Speaker 1 He really thought he got a $5 bill. It was awesome.

Speaker 1 All right. Yeah.
So, yeah, Jonathan Taylor, Jim Merce. Weird, weird times.
We also have Aaron Rodgers standing up for Nathaniel Hackett, Hackett,

Speaker 1 telling Sean Payton to keep my coach's name out of your mouth.

Speaker 1 I, for one, stand with Aaron Rodgers here. Who would ever make fun of Nathaniel Hackett? Not us.
Or Aaron Rodgers. Not us.

Speaker 3 Certainly not us. Anything with Nathaniel Hackett.
Nope.

Speaker 1 Really nice guy. And Aaron Rodgers, even nicer guy.

Speaker 3 And his son thinks Blake Bortlos has a huge dick. Yeah, fact.

Speaker 3 Great guy. Fact.
Good offspring.

Speaker 3 They talked to Sean Payton again. Sean Payton kind of walked back his previous comments, or at least apologized.
Like, I was a little bit out of line. I probably shouldn't have said that.

Speaker 3 He didn't really say that anything that he said was wrong because it wasn't. Like he was telling the truth.
He was just a little bit too honest. Correct.

Speaker 3 And it was funny because there was a lot of people out there that saw Sean Payton's comments and immediately said like, he's playing 14-dimensional chess by giving this on-the-record interview.

Speaker 3 No, sometimes Sean Payton just... is too honest with people.
And it's kind of a dick. That's kind of who he is.

Speaker 3 He's a great football coach, but he wasn't trying to like maneuver chess pieces around, take attention off Russell Wilson, put it on him. He wasn't doing the Phil Jackson thing.

Speaker 3 He just has been out of the league for a couple of years. He was an analyst.

Speaker 3 He said he had his fox hat on. Yeah, no,

Speaker 1 here's a little fun fact about any football coach. They do think they're the smartest guy in the room.

Speaker 1 And if you ask for their opinion on something, they will sometimes give it to you and it will be harsh. That's just a fact.

Speaker 1 Like that's Sean, if you're just like, hey, Sean Payton, what do you think Nathaniel Hack did last year?

Speaker 1 He could not answer it, or if he's feeling in some kind of mood, he could answer it the way he did and just burn the whole house down.

Speaker 3 And also, if Aaron Rodgers loves him so much, how come he didn't decide to go to Denver last year?

Speaker 1 Well, Aaron Rodgers is a loyal guy to the Jets. Okay.

Speaker 1 Now. Yeah, now.
Okay. He did.

Speaker 1 Now.

Speaker 1 Again, some people make fun of Aaron Rodgers. Those people are losers or jealous.
Aaron Rodgers did have an answer that some people might say is him just being very cute.

Speaker 1 He said Christopher Nolan, his favorite Christopher Nolan movie, is The Prestige.

Speaker 1 So, what do you think about that, Hank? Prestige rocks. Was it your favorite Christopher Nolan movie? It's up there.
Really? Oh, yeah. Okay.

Speaker 3 Did you see it in one of the appropriate IMAXs? No.

Speaker 6 Prestige is one of the best movies of all time.

Speaker 1 But that does feel like a...

Speaker 1 No. Like, I'm not going to say Batman.
I'm not going to say Inception.

Speaker 6 Prestige is a phenomenal movie.

Speaker 1 Okay, so, all right.

Speaker 1 It's a great answer by Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 I agree with Hank. Prestige is a great movie.
And we all agree with Aaron Rodgers. I haven't seen The Prestige yet, but I will see it.
Oh, it's right.

Speaker 1 Now that Aaron Rodgers is vouched for it, it's really good. What's anything he'll say? I suck the vaccine out of my body.

Speaker 9 It's like rival magician.

Speaker 6 It's Christian Bale, Hugh Jackman are rival magicians.

Speaker 1 Great twists, great turns.

Speaker 6 Great female cast.

Speaker 10 You guys are disrespecting this movie.

Speaker 1 It's a great thing.

Speaker 1 I've never seen it. How can I disrespect a movie I haven't seen?

Speaker 6 He's not being coy.

Speaker 1 That's just like. Okay, that's a good answer.
I get.

Speaker 1 But I didn't know it. Like, if you polled everyone what their favorite Christopher Nolan movie is, wouldn't you say the most popular response would not be The Prestige?

Speaker 6 No. But it's not.

Speaker 1 It doesn't mean it's the wrong answer.

Speaker 3 But it's about two rival magicians.

Speaker 1 But I didn't know the movie. Now I'll watch it.
If it's a good answer, it's a good answer. I've never seen it.
It's good. Who produced that?

Speaker 1 Christopher Nolan? Peter Chernin?

Speaker 3 Yeah, I thought it was Peter Chernin.

Speaker 1 Did he? No, I don't think so.

Speaker 3 No, I don't think so. No, that was the other one.

Speaker 1 He did a Christopher Nolan movie?

Speaker 3 No, maybe that was the greatest showman I'm thinking of.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Great. Oh, that's a great movie.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right, sorry, I gotta watch Prestige?

Speaker 6 Prestige is, yeah. If you haven't watched it, you should.

Speaker 1 I will.

Speaker 6 Christian Bale, Hugh Jackman.

Speaker 6 Jessica Beale.

Speaker 1 Right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, that was Camp Talk. What other Camp Talk do we have?

Speaker 6 Ezekiel Elliott, Patriots.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Him and Mac Jones weirdly sitting on the same side of the booth.

Speaker 6 What's wrong with that?

Speaker 1 What do you mean? What's wrong with that?

Speaker 6 It's the most intimate way to eat.

Speaker 3 Bailey Zappi, Ezekiel Elliott. I'm in.

Speaker 1 Did you see that picture? You didn't think it was weird?

Speaker 1 Yes, you did. Okay.
Thank you. I rest my case.
That's all I needed to see here.

Speaker 1 That was weird. No, they were probably in like a big group.

Speaker 6 They weren't. It wasn't just them.

Speaker 1 Did you see the picture?

Speaker 1 No, I didn't see it. I'm going to look it up right now.

Speaker 6 I mean, it wasn't just them too.

Speaker 1 There absolutely could be more context, but as I saw the picture, I was like, this is a weird look.

Speaker 1 If there's two dudes sitting on the same side of a booth with no one on the other side, obviously there's people on the other side. Where were they?

Speaker 1 What is this? A magician trip? I don't know.

Speaker 1 they showed up to camp and he stayed he's still there okay and dalvin cooks going to jets camp everyone's chanting his name so that'd be a problem that would be a problem dream team you see the picture i'm looking it up right now yeah let me know okay i got it

Speaker 3 they look so happy uh yeah for a second i thought that was ezekiel elliott in the foreground yeah it's like different table yeah um this is this is really strange it looks like it looks like they're driving a car they're both both face directly forward yeah and no one's on the other side.

Speaker 3 I don't see anybody on the other side. No.

Speaker 1 But that has nothing to do with it. No.

Speaker 3 Context irrelevant. Okay.
But there's no context. Context is irrelevant.
Yeah, I agree. Weird picture.

Speaker 1 Context irrelevant.

Speaker 3 The context you're creating is irrelevant.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's the, I saw a picture. You show, if you see the picture, you're like, that's kind of weird.
I'm sure there is more context. Yeah, Billy.

Speaker 7 The weirdest part is that no one's sitting across from them.

Speaker 1 Correct. Yes.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Billy.

Speaker 3 You're right, Billy. On the same side of the room.

Speaker 3 Nobody else there. Yep.

Speaker 1 Did you get concussed?

Speaker 1 I feel like you might be. I mean, that was the entire conversation in the last five minutes.
That was what I was saying. It was a weird.

Speaker 1 I was looking at the photo.

Speaker 3 Also, kind of sucks that they're using utensils.

Speaker 1 Just in general?

Speaker 3 Just in general, because Mac Collins from the Falcons had, I think, the quote of training camp so far, he said, I don't like soft people. I don't even like people who eat with utensils.

Speaker 3 Eat with your hands. That's what they're there for.
Nice.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I like it.

Speaker 3 I might be done with utensils.

Speaker 1 Travis Kelsey got in a fight. Yep.
Billy's gotten the dog out of him.

Speaker 3 That was my who's back.

Speaker 1 Oh, sorry. Shit.

Speaker 7 He might be soft.

Speaker 1 I love training camp fights.

Speaker 3 You think he's soft for getting into a fight? Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's soft for apologizing. No, he did apologize.

Speaker 7 No, it was kind of soft getting into it because he got hit once just like a little bit after the play and he got pissed off.

Speaker 3 Do you think that you talking shit to his face is like in the back of his head? And so he's going to be secure. He's going to get some some stupid penalties this year.
Shout out Cochran.

Speaker 5 Yeah, he might. He might.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's hilarious.

Speaker 1 Also, we should say, Shohei Otani, we flirted with maybe being haters when we recorded on Thursday when he had a complete game one hitter in the first game. And we're like, oh, he went 0 for 5.

Speaker 1 And then he hit two home runs in the second game.

Speaker 3 And then he also, I think he might be good. I think he hit three home runs.

Speaker 1 It was so funny.

Speaker 3 In three consecutive at-bats.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It was, he won the player of the game for both games in the doubleheader.

Speaker 1 For different positions.

Speaker 3 And he's not being traded, apparently.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Sticking around. It looks like

Speaker 3 Angels might be all in.

Speaker 1 Cubs might be buying. They beat up on some bad teams.
They're buying.

Speaker 6 Walk-off robbery was one of the greatest plays I've ever seen. Awesome.

Speaker 6 They were up one, bottom the ninth, man on first. Guy had a long flyball to center field, and he robbed them of the ball.

Speaker 1 Chalkman, yeah, robbed it.

Speaker 6 So it would have been a walk-off home run, robbed them, walk-off robbery.

Speaker 1 And in like the grass. Yeah.
Yeah. It was electric.
It was electric. Yeah.
Baseball's heating up. The boys of summer.

Speaker 3 Scherzer dealt.

Speaker 1 Scherzer dealt. Ranger.

Speaker 1 What was your favorite Max Scherzer Mets moment? I think it was when his velocity fell off a cliff and he got killed by the, was it the Padres?

Speaker 3 I think it's like every first inning where he gives up two home runs.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Memes, you want to give us your final thoughts on Max Scherzer? Max Scherzer, if I remember, was also like the first sign that Uncle Stevie's going to be different.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 I was at the Padres playoff game last year.

Speaker 3 I was watching him warm up.

Speaker 1 I was sitting right there. I was like, oh, I could probably hit off him right now.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 5 he went on to get licked, and it was, it was brutal.

Speaker 1 He got licked. He got licked hard.
He got licked. He got licked.
It was so bad. Yeah, that was bad.
But that was the big signing right after Steve Cohen bought the team.

Speaker 1 We were like, this is different. We're the Yankees now.
Yeah, we were all in. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Damn. Damn.
So sick. 100 games.
So got a Koonu's brother, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know how that's going to work. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Always get the younger brother.

Speaker 1 Always work out.

Speaker 3 There was some drama at the Rams camp. Yeah.
Sony Michel reported to work for one day and was like, fuck this. I actually hate playing football, so I'm retired.

Speaker 3 He's like, I forgot how hard football was. Yeah.
Which is very relatable to do, to show up to your first day and be like,

Speaker 3 nah, not for me this year. Yeah.
I'm just going to quit.

Speaker 1 Eddie Goldman did that again for like the fifth time with the Falcons. Yeah.
He was just like, yeah, I think I'm done.

Speaker 3 I love the Rams training camp shirts too. The ones that have like the massive block of text on the back.
They say, I wrote it down actually.

Speaker 3 It says mentally and physically tough players who play smart and love to compete.

Speaker 3 That's their slogan for training camp this year.

Speaker 1 That's about

Speaker 1 it. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Sean McVay hit a thesaurus, bro.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Speaking of, by the way, the Falcons, Arthur Smith, like the hottest guy in the world. Yeah.
Oh, the fucking mustache. He's a stud.
He's a stud. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't even remember what we said about his chin, but it was wrong.

Speaker 3 I'm not looking at his chin anymore. I'm looking at those lips, baby.
That flavor scene. I want to just smooch him.
Yep. Yeah.

Speaker 3 He might have a problem this year with his players wanting to kiss him too much.

Speaker 1 So someone in this room might have sent him a meme of Vito.

Speaker 1 What's his name? Last name in Sopranos? Corleo? No.

Speaker 1 The fat guy in Johnny Cakes.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Someone might have sent him, though.

Speaker 1 Might have been me. But I said this could be us.

Speaker 1 He looks really, really good. Yeah, he's got the stash.
I'm fat Vito. But yeah, I mean, there's just the clips that come out of every camp.
I just get so excited.

Speaker 3 That dude from the Giants had the interception of training camp one-handed. He went Odell on an interception across the middle.
Yes.

Speaker 3 So that's immediately I'm like, okay, the Giants' defense is for real. Yes.
Everybody out there because of that one play.

Speaker 1 Football's back. Football's back.

Speaker 1 Tank. It's a great week.
Football is back.

Speaker 9 Kelly Greens.

Speaker 1 You want to say something about it? I mean, the Kelly Greens are so good. They are electric.

Speaker 9 There's not a person on the planet that can look at those jerseys.

Speaker 1 They're so... The Oilers, obviously the Titans, controversy aside, but the Oilers.

Speaker 6 They couldn't even announce them right.

Speaker 1 What, a teaser? They got leaked. Oh, it did get leaked.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Get your shit together, you. They were coming back.
The Oilers and the Kelly Green Eagles jerseys.

Speaker 1 Fuck throwbacks. Those should be the jerseys.

Speaker 3 Yeah, when it's the Eagles and you see them wearing, what is it, Max? Their midnight green? Midnight green, which is such a preposterous name for a color.

Speaker 3 Like midnight green, there's no, that's not a thing is midnight green. It's just, it's dark green.
It's forced green.

Speaker 1 But 11 p.m. green is my favorite.

Speaker 3 They look so much worse than the Kelly Greens. Yes.
Kelly Greens should always have been their jerseys.

Speaker 1 They're awesome. And even the Seahawks, the Seahawks throwbacks should just be their jerseys.

Speaker 3 I love the Buccaneers throwbacks, too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, I know that we're now into this

Speaker 1 because they changed the helmet rule. So all these teams can now wear their old jerseys.
But there are definitively, some of these old jerseys are just far superior than the current ones.

Speaker 1 Just go to them full-time.

Speaker 3 Yeah, the Kelly Greens are definitely one of them.

Speaker 1 They should just do a throwback year where everyone has to wear their throwbacks every game.

Speaker 3 I like that a lot. Also, you're allowed to rough the passer again for a year.

Speaker 1 That would be fun. And the running back matters.

Speaker 1 Every running back gets paid for one year as if it were

Speaker 1 1992.

Speaker 3 Yeah, bell cow.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. We're in for it.
Okay, let's do who's back. Then we have our interview with Dan Campbell, the grittiest coach out there.

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Speaker 1 Okay, who's back of the week? Hank.

Speaker 6 Who's back of the week is Aliens. Okay.

Speaker 1 Again?

Speaker 1 We got to zoom in on Billy's face on that.

Speaker 1 Billy just gave an all-time high guy.

Speaker 1 Like, yeah.

Speaker 1 Dude.

Speaker 1 Fucking aliens.

Speaker 6 aliens they had like a congressional hearing last week or something and they basically just declassified that aliens are confirmed a thing so what is this what what what what thing were they trying to cover up for hunter biden

Speaker 6 i don't know the guy

Speaker 1 what was it what was the did hunter biden did joe biden fall or did hunter biden have something on his laptop release to have the alien uh unclassified i think he had a different shell company the whistleblower the whistleblower just said what he said to the press in a congressional hearing.

Speaker 7 So if he lied, he technically can't.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. They made the guy who was spouting off be like, yo, show up.
Yeah. Let's talk to you for real.

Speaker 7 Yeah. So I said that there was alien bodies recovered from crashes.

Speaker 7 Different types of non-human intelligence was found, but it's the same dude. And either this guy's a quack.

Speaker 3 Or he's covering something else up. I've got two theories on this.
One, what's going on with Obama Chef, right, Billy?

Speaker 1 Right, Billy? Questions,

Speaker 1 Billy? Well, you know what's going on in your brain right now. I try to hold it back.
This is a sport podcast.

Speaker 3 So my real theory behind this, I think I'm right, by the way, about the aliens.

Speaker 3 I think that they're saying that they have alien spacecraft and alien bodies so that China is over there across the Pacific and they're like, yo, what the fuck? The U.S.

Speaker 3 has an alien spacecraft, advanced technology, and we don't. And then China's afraid of us because they think that we've got all this shit that they don't have.

Speaker 7 China doesn't even have nuclear subs.

Speaker 1 Is that true?

Speaker 7 They're lacking. I'd say losers.

Speaker 1 So it's like, it's like a neighbor without fucking pegs on their huff. Yeah.
Come on.

Speaker 1 You can't even get guys on the back of this. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 They spent their whole budget on putting the nine-dash line in the Barbie movie.

Speaker 1 Yeah. They can't even, they can't even get

Speaker 3 big time.

Speaker 1 Big time lacking. All right.
So

Speaker 1 do we believe this guy? I do. Billy.
He testified.

Speaker 3 Billy. No one ever lies under.

Speaker 1 Never. It never, never happened.

Speaker 1 Do you think aliens have big dicks? That would bum me out. I actually think they have no dicks.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, that would doubtless. How do they rebuild it? That would be awesome.
Yeah, yeah. Because it would suck if aliens were like

Speaker 1 short little green guys, but just huge hogs. It's like, well, fuck.

Speaker 7 No, they come down totally asexual, be like, sex is overrated. We're too intelligent for sex.

Speaker 1 That's so they'd be like top G. Like, the aliens are aliens are incels.

Speaker 1 I don't even think about sex. Hot women, fuck that.
Just Just me and my boys.

Speaker 6 I like thinking that aliens are real because it really is like there's no reason to do anything because like within five years, like the aliens are going to just come up and fuck us off.

Speaker 1 I mean, Hank's just going on vacation. That was

Speaker 1 a vacation plea.

Speaker 1 No, it's just like bullets. Hank is going to get to the end of the summer and just be like, but aliens, guys.

Speaker 1 What's the point of even working?

Speaker 7 Dude, I think the aliens are from Earth, bro.

Speaker 1 Oh, really?

Speaker 1 I think they're from the bottom of the ocean.

Speaker 6 Kong movie.

Speaker 1 No, no. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Or aliens versus Predator.

Speaker 7 No, I'm just saying, like, the, like,

Speaker 7 the earth is really large, and we haven't really

Speaker 7 investigated most of the oceans and most.

Speaker 1 You should try. Yeah, you should get on a sub.
I will.

Speaker 1 Wait, so Hank, you are, you are now saying, what's the point of doing anything? Because aliens are going to kill us all?

Speaker 1 Of, of all of your vacations,

Speaker 1 this is a good one. No, it's more like...

Speaker 6 It's more like, you know, like.

Speaker 1 I would have called you a pussy for global warming, but aliens, that's cool.

Speaker 6 Yeah, like starting a family. It's like, I don't want to have kids.
Like, aliens are going to come and kill them all.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 I don't like, I'm just going to, I'm just going to keep doing my thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I like that, Hank.

Speaker 3 Okay. No, is that what you tell chicks, too? It's like, nah, sorry, you can't.
We can't do this. There might be aliens.

Speaker 1 Why would you pay taxes if aliens are going to kill us all?

Speaker 6 Well, I don't want to be in jail when the aliens kill us all.

Speaker 1 I don't know when they're going to kill us. They're coming five years.

Speaker 6 It could be five years, could be five days.

Speaker 1 So stop paying your taxes

Speaker 3 but it could be five years you would feel like a real idiot though if you paid your taxes and the next day boom aliens yeah all i'm saying is if i still want to be in jail i'm not trying to be in jail the aliens if they come before football season starts are really that's up yeah that's messed up just let us get through the next what if they're really fast and they play football that would rock that would be sick al davis would come back from the dead draft from first overall

Speaker 7 what if what if they all became running back so you guys don't believe this guy at all um

Speaker 1 sure

Speaker 1 i don't really know. I don't.

Speaker 3 We kind of forgot about the first time that he came out with the whistleblower shit because, like an hour later, Taylor Swift broke up with her boyfriend. So, everybody just talked about that instead.

Speaker 3 I really think that we're just trying to make China spend money on investigating their own aliens that don't exist.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm also a big believer in just there's a lot of shit that could bum you out or get you to the point where you're like, what's the point of life?

Speaker 1 I just try to ignore all of that and just keep on keep on trucking, keep on moving forward.

Speaker 1 Because, because you really could find anything in the news to essentially put you to a screeching halt and be like, why should I do this? Why should I do that?

Speaker 3 Do you guys think that aliens have music?

Speaker 1 Yeah, we sent them that. Didn't we send them?

Speaker 3 We sent out like Chuck Jerry.

Speaker 3 I think the Ramones have some Beethoven or some shit. Yeah.

Speaker 3 But like, do they have their own music, their own alien music? They come to Earth with jams. That would be sick.

Speaker 1 That would be sick, too. Yeah, you can't let that shit get you down, eh?

Speaker 6 It doesn't get me down.

Speaker 1 No, but you're like, we're all going to die in five years. That's pretty depressing.
That was exciting. Bove it up.
Okay. All right.
Yeah. Live every day like it's your last.
Live moss. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.
PFT.

Speaker 3 My who's back is John Mechie.

Speaker 3 John Mechie, who? Receiver from University of Alabama. He got drafted in the second round by the Texans last year.

Speaker 1 He got leukemia.

Speaker 3 Missed all of last year. He's back in training camp.
He looks awesome. I've always loved Mechie.

Speaker 3 I thought that he was, when he was at Alabama, I was like, this dude should actually be drafted in the first round. He has the crispest routes.
It's It's so fun to watch this dude play.

Speaker 3 I'm just saying,

Speaker 3 I think the Texans on offense this year are going to be way better than we think.

Speaker 1 I like Stroud.

Speaker 3 I'm a Stroud boy.

Speaker 1 Brandon Cook's back.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 3 That's a good question.

Speaker 1 Is he on the Texans? Sure, sure. Cowboys, Cowboys, Shane there.
There we go. That's a great one.

Speaker 3 Well, no, I think the Texans' offense, I love, I like C.J. Stroud.
You either have to put yourself going into training camp, going to the regular season. Are you a Bryce Young fan?

Speaker 3 Are you a CJ Stroud fan? Right. I think I'm a Stroud boy.
Okay. Yeah, but Mechie looks awesome.

Speaker 3 I'm pumped for Mechie. I'm excited that he's back.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that is huge. It's also just...

Speaker 1 like the perfect time to watch highlights of guys at camp and be like, oh my God, he's going to be incredible. I saw that video of Calvin Ridley after Zay Jones ran around.

Speaker 1 Calvin Ridley looks like he's 20 times faster.

Speaker 1 So yeah, I will get got by a lot of these videos.

Speaker 3 I'm getting got every day. Yeah.
Every single day.

Speaker 1 Every day. I saw Justin Fields throw one from like 50 into a net and then Jordan Love missed like a 10 yard pass over the middle and I was like,

Speaker 3 saw Deshaun Watson hit a net in stride in five yards. Facts.

Speaker 7 You see Zach Wilson's no look.

Speaker 3 Nope. Nope.
Toss. I did not look.

Speaker 1 We're talking about starters. I know, but it was pretty crisp.
Okay, Mike, who's back at two. One is actually Justin Fields.
He has been, he has upgraded, no longer a vegan. Now a pescatarian.

Speaker 1 So I feel like we're making progress, Billy. Yeah.
This is good progress.

Speaker 7 Get some fish protein.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Some fish oils. That also is just, I don't think there's ever been anyone who's gone vegan to pescatarian and stopped at pescatarian.
That means

Speaker 3 you missed meat. You missed meat.
You're coming back. He's probably eating like fried fish too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're taking it.

Speaker 3 Because

Speaker 3 he wants some nuggets. He wants to upgrade.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He'll be back. He'll be back.

Speaker 1 My other who's back is paintball because

Speaker 1 we're going to play some paintball on Grit Week, but we need the AWL's help. So we are looking.
Turns out paintball courses are

Speaker 1 tracks. Is it tracks? Paintball tracks?

Speaker 6 Arenas. Arenas.

Speaker 1 Battlefields. Paintball courses seem to be only open on the weekends.
We need one during the weekday.

Speaker 1 So if you know someone who owns a paintball course and wants to open it for us, we will give them some nice shout-outs in the video. And

Speaker 1 we're looking for a paintball course. Some Coors Light.
Within, yeah, and some Coors Light within, I would say, 45 minutes of Cleveland would be perfect.

Speaker 7 That allows fully automatic.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're going to make a paintball video that's going to fucking be awesome.

Speaker 6 Revolutionary paintball facility. Yeah.
Revolutionary war.

Speaker 3 No, just like one shot at a time. I would just walk one shot every 10 minutes.

Speaker 1 One shot, I'd walk off.

Speaker 1 That would be awesome. Fully automatic.

Speaker 3 Powdered wigs. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Flints. Stand on the field against each other.

Speaker 3 Face each other. Yeah.
Be a gentleman about it.

Speaker 1 But yes, if you have a paintball course, know someone who has one

Speaker 1 around Cleveland, hit us up. Hit up Jake's email.
What is it?

Speaker 1 PMT Intern at gmail.com.

Speaker 8 Barcelonesports.com.

Speaker 6 PMT intern at barcelsports.com.

Speaker 8 Are you sure?

Speaker 3 You want to just go Billy Football at BarcelonaSports.com. I'll do it.
Okay, there we go.

Speaker 1 Billy Football at Barcelona Sports.com.

Speaker 6 Billy Swan song.

Speaker 1 Love it.

Speaker 3 I'm going to hit Jake with a shot of a lifetime.

Speaker 1 I was going to say, let's not tell Jake, but he listens to the show really much.

Speaker 3 Sorry, Jake. He's a good boy.

Speaker 1 Love you, Jake. Like Billy, who Billy, the other day,

Speaker 1 we were talking about the show.

Speaker 1 an episode he wasn't on, and he's like, can someone fill me in? And Hank was just like, if only there was a way to find out. Oh, you're talking about Megacorp.
I get it.

Speaker 1 And he's like, what are you guys talking about? It was like a day after. Yeah, but you can listen.

Speaker 12 You could listen.

Speaker 1 Then I get FOMO. It hurts.
Okay.

Speaker 3 So,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 1 It's your choice. I know.

Speaker 1 Okay. I mean, Megacorp, you would have liked Megacorp.

Speaker 3 What is Mega Corp?

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 3 Yeah, if you have to ask, you're not mega, yeah, gee, I'm mega, Billy.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're not mega.

Speaker 3 It's gonna be so awesome when we beat you in a war game and you can't we steal valor from you. What you really have the most to lose in this paintball contest.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 7 I'm gonna be, I'm gonna be using Jake as a human shield. It's gonna be like a hostage situation, but more fun.

Speaker 1 Oh, break the news! Break the news!

Speaker 6 Jonathan Taylor just tweeted seven minutes ago that one, he never had back pain, two, he never reported back pain. Not sure who quote-unquote sources are, but find new ones.

Speaker 3 Huh. Interesting.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, this is a double emoji.

Speaker 3 This is just a game of leveraged chicken right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Never had back pain.

Speaker 3 No, never had back pain. Never reported back pain.

Speaker 6 Jack's never been blown out.

Speaker 1 Needs a bacchiotomy.

Speaker 1 Okay, Billy, what's your who's back? Other than not being mega?

Speaker 7 Jack Cochran's the dude who pissed off Travis Kelsey. So shout out that guy for exposing Travis Kelsey for being a pussy.

Speaker 1 Oh, oh, oh. Oh, no, he's a pussy, okay.

Speaker 8 We're doubling down.

Speaker 1 Uh, burn every bridge right before you leave, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 Billy, you should have a dossier on for

Speaker 3 the last show that you record, and you should just let it let all the takes that were too hot

Speaker 1 just let

Speaker 1 Billy Festo. Yeah, yeah, yeah, or let him loose.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you better.

Speaker 7 Um, uh, but my other who's back is

Speaker 7 Zach Wilson doing a no-look.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, who could we had Aaron Rodgers, you know.

Speaker 7 Damn.

Speaker 1 What is that? Oh, Billy. I'm going to have to.

Speaker 1 What's wrong with his brain right now?

Speaker 7 I had a bunch, but then we just.

Speaker 1 Is his brain okay?

Speaker 3 Well, his face swelled up a lot today.

Speaker 7 Yeah, dude.

Speaker 1 A lot of Benadryl.

Speaker 1 You did get to eat the wings before everyone. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that was cool.

Speaker 1 Oh, by the way, I fucked up. I fucked up.

Speaker 3 I've realized that posting a picture of chicken wings that you just ate online is along the same lines of posting a picture of a steak that you just made yourself.

Speaker 3 People will always, they will find all the top meat in there. Yeah.
So next time I do this, the wings are going to look like they got run over by a lawnmower going 30 miles an hour.

Speaker 3 I'm going to post the worst fucking wing-eating picture of all time just to piss off Wing Twitter. Yes.

Speaker 7 Remember the guy who ran the fastest 40-yard dash of all time?

Speaker 3 John Ross. They gave him an island, right?

Speaker 7 No, he didn't get it because he ran Nike's not an Adidas.

Speaker 1 I still believed in him.

Speaker 1 I know that that was stupid, but man, out of Washington. Yeah.
Yeah. He was so fast.

Speaker 7 too fast for football anyone who does something that elite i will always be like where's john ross these days he could probably still play take the top off the defense yeah have him just run deep he was with the bengals then he was with the giants and then he was at the chiefs camp and uh he retired okay too fast for football but you know how they were talking about those gps uh trackers that said that adam theelin was the fastest guy at the

Speaker 7 yeah so i actually think that like this guy wasn't that fast when you made it like the average speed.

Speaker 8 He was just super fast, straight line.

Speaker 7 But if you look at all the routes he was running, like he was a gadget guy. They just made him run really fast in a straight line.

Speaker 3 And that was the only thing he could do.

Speaker 1 Also, sounds pretty easy. Also,

Speaker 1 a very big part of receiving that people kind of overlook sometimes is being able to catch the ball.

Speaker 2 Also, stopping.

Speaker 1 Yeah, stopping. But catching is very important.
Fast guys do have to catch.

Speaker 3 I actually want to know the guy that goes from fast to dead stop the fastest. Yeah.
Who's the fastest guy at Stop? stop that's you think stop starkeek is

Speaker 3 he is he is very

Speaker 1 very fast at stopping yeah when he comes back for a ball yeah deceleration pause i saw

Speaker 3 i saw um odell beckham do a fake back shoulder catch that was sick yeah the ball was in midair and he hesied backwards the receiver the cornerback bit on it and then odell kept running made the catch it that's i see that i see a play like that i'm like ravens super bowl yes i have the ravens for the super Bowl.

Speaker 1 I've bought into the hype. It won't burn me at all.

Speaker 1 Okay.

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Speaker 1 What does grit mean to you?

Speaker 8 Grit is,

Speaker 8 I think it's when you have the ability to overcome

Speaker 8 adversity in any situation. You know, the ability to push through it mentally, physically, to overcome.
And I think that's what grit is in a nutshell.

Speaker 3 That's a good answer. Yeah, that was your big message to the team last year.
I remember at the first episode of Hard Knocks, you walked out there and giant grit mural.

Speaker 8 I think I said it a little different, but yes, I did.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 You dropped a couple fucks in there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, you could say that. You could say, fuck shit.
Fuck, fuck. God damn it.
Well,

Speaker 8 I told myself as of this morning, I wasn't going to cuss anymore.

Speaker 1 Oh, this morning? Yes. Is that something you tell yourself every morning?

Speaker 8 Yes, I do.

Speaker 1 Yeah, fuck that.

Speaker 1 Today's the day.

Speaker 3 That was your message at the start of Hard Ox. I remember you walking in, and I immediately wanted to run through my TV because I was like, yeah, okay, I'm pumped up right now.

Speaker 3 Is that the message this year?

Speaker 8 It always will be. I mean, that's what this was.
built off of two years ago, man. I wanted us to, that was going to be part of our identity as grit.
And we're built off of that and the ability.

Speaker 8 And that's kind of where the, you know, it doesn't matter where we have to go to play, who we're playing, what the circumstances are, the conditions. It doesn't matter, man.
There's no excuses.

Speaker 8 Let's line up and play.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I think you said you'll beat anybody's ass, including somebody that has one butt, cheek, and three toes. That seems like a little bit of an unfair fight.

Speaker 8 One ass cheek and three toes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I swear.

Speaker 8 And it was one ass, cheek, three toes, and I will beat your ass. It wasn't that I'm going to beat the ass of somebody with one ass, cheek, and three toes.

Speaker 8 What I meant was I have one ass cheek and three toes and you are full. You got everything and I will still beat your ass.

Speaker 1 Both beat your ass.

Speaker 1 That's what I meant by that. Not even ass envy.

Speaker 3 This guy's coming here with two cheeks.

Speaker 8 I'm glad I could clear that up.

Speaker 1 So year three,

Speaker 1 year one, obviously, you know, not the best record. Year two, big step forward.
Missed the playoffs week 18.

Speaker 1 Year three, what have you learned in the last two years that you're like, this is what's going to make me the best head coach for this football team?

Speaker 8 Yeah, I think, man, there's always those, when you get in those game situations over a two-year period, man, and,

Speaker 8 you know, and it's just, I think, in-game flow, understanding where you're at, the best approach. I mean, because here, sometimes what happens is,

Speaker 8 I mean,

Speaker 8 you kind of have the game.

Speaker 8 I'll give you an example.

Speaker 8 You feel like you kind of have the game

Speaker 8 in your hands. And,

Speaker 8 man, if you go about, if you'll just back off a little bit, there's a real good chance your probability of winning goes way up.

Speaker 8 But to do that, that means you're backing off the reins, you know, you're pulling back on the reins a little bit.

Speaker 8 And that's hard, you know, because there's always you do that, then you back off, and all of a sudden a few things happen.

Speaker 8 They give up. You get a shot play.
There's a turnover, whatever. And now you got to know, okay, we're not backing off the reins anymore.
We got to go, guys.

Speaker 8 And to get them to go again, that's not always the easiest thing and i think just figuring out what that flow is and i think that's us as a team but myself too got much better particularly the late half of that season last year was man when we got in the fourth quarter uh the ability to control the game and finish games out i think was real big and that that's something i feel like i've learned over a three-year period and gotten better at yeah with the game come to you a little bit yes yeah absolutely more guys on the sidelines were holding their fours up at the start of the fourth quarter i think that had a pretty big does that have an impact i was really good good at that.

Speaker 8 I'll tell you what, we did that all the time in high school. And I don't know if I ever did that in the pros, but we did in college too.
We did the 0-4.

Speaker 8 I don't know if I've seen anybody on our sideline do that.

Speaker 1 It's a good reminder.

Speaker 3 In my experience personally, it's usually the worst players. They're the first ones to do it.

Speaker 1 That was me. I was up on the field, running off there.
It just shows they're aware. Yeah,

Speaker 1 they know the situation.

Speaker 3 Nothing else to pay attention to, but the clock at that point.

Speaker 3 So this year, you're kind of coming into it with a little bit of a different setup for your team.

Speaker 3 Last year, you could easily motivate guys, or not easily, but you could say your motivation is nobody believes in you, right? Like this is your back's against the wall.

Speaker 3 This year, the Lions have expectations. Like, you guys have a great roster.
You put together a great second half of your season, as you said, last year. So people are expecting big things out of you.

Speaker 3 Do you motivate the same way, or did you have to make some adjustments in this offseason?

Speaker 8 No, I still think

Speaker 8 it's very much the same same just in this regard. I understand what's out there.
And look, we've got expectations for ourselves. We do.

Speaker 8 And we should be a better team.

Speaker 8 That's what all this is about, man.

Speaker 8 Every year you're in it and you're building the way Brad and I have and the players that we have.

Speaker 8 you know you're developing and we expect to be a better team than we were last year we we fully expect that and we've got the same goals as most teams do yeah we want to win this division we want to get in the playoffs we want to make noise we want to win the super bowl all that.

Speaker 8 But I think for us, what's interesting, we know what's out there, but yet

Speaker 8 we haven't done anything.

Speaker 8 We haven't, not like that.

Speaker 8 And so to me, the message stays the same in the regard of, no, we didn't win the division last year.

Speaker 8 Minnesota won it and Green Bay won it for year and year after, year after, year out before that. And so to me,

Speaker 8 those are the kings in this division right now. And

Speaker 8 we have to go earn that. We didn't go to the playoffs last year.
We got to earn that.

Speaker 1 And so, to me,

Speaker 8 we're still on the outside looking in. And that's what keeps us hungry.
Man, we got to go get it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Bears want it in 2018, whatever.

Speaker 8 I'm a Bears fan. Thank you, Big Cat.
Yeah, I got you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just want to. I mean, you know, we're going to talk facts.

Speaker 1 But I do actually want to bring up week 18. What are you going after this? We're going to Buffalo.

Speaker 8 I thought you said you were going back to Chicago.

Speaker 1 Oh, back to Chicago, then to Buffalo. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 So week 18, you guys are eliminated.

Speaker 1 Was there ever a doubt that you're going to go out there and not play

Speaker 1 the Packers tough and try to end their season? Because I want to thank you for that. That was beautiful watching Aaron Rodgers throw an interception to end his Packers career.

Speaker 1 But was there ever even a doubt like, hey,

Speaker 1 we're out. Like, how are we going to get the guys up? Or was it like, no, this is next year starts right now?

Speaker 8 No,

Speaker 8 there was never a doubt. And quite frankly, Big Cat, I would tell you this.
I would have been shocked had we come out there and laid an an egg. Right.

Speaker 8 That's how well I knew this team and the guys that we have on this team.

Speaker 8 I really, I believed with everything in my heart, no matter what was going to happen, because I felt like if they did, then, man, there's blood in the water. All we got to do is win and we get in.

Speaker 8 And if not, it was going to piss them off. Yeah.
Like, if it's not us, then they're not going.

Speaker 8 And that was the mentality they took, you know, and that tells you you got the right guys and I got the right coaches. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, it was a great, it was a great way. You don't see that very often where a team has nothing to play for and they play like that.
Back to last year,

Speaker 1 start kind of slow. I think it was right before the bye week where you guys lost pretty soundly, I think to maybe to the Patriots.
Was there a moment at all where you had any doubt?

Speaker 1 We're like, am I losing this team a little bit? Or were you like, no, we're right there.

Speaker 3 We just have to finish some things here.

Speaker 8 Yeah, no, I never felt that.

Speaker 8 I never even felt close to that.

Speaker 8 I knew the guys were still in it. I knew we hadn't, you know, lost the locker room or guys were starting to question what, because honestly,

Speaker 8 there was we were playing pretty good offensive football for most of the year. And defensively, we were playing pretty good in flashes, you know, in moments.

Speaker 8 And then, oh my God, we something, we'd give up something. It was a lack of communication.
There was an MA.

Speaker 8 And they would just, they were crushing us, you know. And so as bad as it looked and as bad as it was, it's not like we were, I never felt like we were far away.
And the coaches knew that.

Speaker 8 And honestly, the players knew that. They knew if we just clean up one or two things, we are this, we are literally one play away from winning these games instead of losing.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 8 And that's what we were able to do. We were able to flip the script.
Our defense,

Speaker 8 we were much cleaner, man. We calmed things down.
The communication was better. We started getting turnovers, and we started taking care of the football and offense.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, hand up, I was wrong.
I was like, oh, Lions are going to be bad again this year. But I'm also really dumb.
So I think whatever has previously happened.

Speaker 8 Don't say that about yourself.

Speaker 8 That's not true. It's the truth.

Speaker 1 It's the truth. If you lose week one, I'm like, oh, that team stinks.
You know what I mean? Like, I overreact to everything.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we overreact to everything. So, but yeah, it was very impressive because it is that fine line of like, when things aren't going well, our guys are still buying in.

Speaker 1 And I'd have to imagine that's one of the toughest parts of the job is getting everyone to stay on the task, even if you aren't getting the results on the field.

Speaker 8 Yeah, look, of course it is. But at the same token, man,

Speaker 8 they're looking at me. They're looking at our coaches.

Speaker 8 And if we believe, if we believe in what we're telling them i'm standing up there and they know i believe it then they believe it and and they did and i just go back to this that that you can never do what we've been able to do over their two-year period to i mean that was 21 was a struggle and then man you start one and six like we did last year without a staff that i've got i've got an unbelievable staff now i i believe it with everything and those guys have done a great job and uh they're they're the biggest reason why we're able to to get through some of these hard moments adverse moments and get to where we're at right now.

Speaker 3 Yeah, one extra addition that maybe you should think about. You talked to us last time on part of my take.
You said that you had considered getting a pet lion on the sidelines. I did.

Speaker 3 Have you had any further conversations about bringing a live lion?

Speaker 8 I would say that Sheila was, she had no problem with it, but the league apparently frowns on this type of thing.

Speaker 1 Roger Goodell, John Goodwill.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to point out Roger on this.

Speaker 8 I'm just going to say that the league frowns on that. Let's just say that.

Speaker 3 It'd be nice, though, to have a lion sitting behind Jack Fox being like, you better punt that fucking boy.

Speaker 1 It does add a little scare tactic. It does.
You guys got to play turkey.

Speaker 8 It's a little extra motivation. Yes, it does.

Speaker 3 So you guys are opening up the season this year. Kind of crazy to think the Lions are playing against the Super Bowl champions week one.

Speaker 3 Does that, like, there's a condensed clock a little bit that way, right? So do you feel is how is preparation different knowing that you guys are going to be under the spotlight Thursday night game?

Speaker 8 I don't know if it's any different different than a normal year in regards to how you prepare.

Speaker 8 You know, I certainly think there's a, you know, there is there's urgency in every year, but to know that, man, you're facing the champ, man, you better be on, you better be on

Speaker 8 your game and all the little things, man. As fast as we can become detailed in what we do, because I always believe early in the season, it's not the teams that make the most plays.

Speaker 8 It's the one that make the least amount of mistakes early in the year. And as you go, then it becomes the teams that make more plays.

Speaker 8 So, you know, the faster that we can all be on the same page in preparation, the better off we're going to be. Now, we got to start three days early.
So did they.

Speaker 8 I love the fact that we're going to have the Giants come in here for two praxes. Then we're going to have Jacksonville coming in here the week after.

Speaker 8 So, man, I just feel like we're going to get enough variety, enough different looks, enough intensity. that I'd like to believe, man, it'll really, it can

Speaker 8 propel us into Kansas City.

Speaker 3 Yeah, the Thursday night game to open it up. That's another one where it's like, okay, standalone game.
We will overreact to whatever happens in that game.

Speaker 1 You guys

Speaker 8 are Super Bowl champs. Oh, I get it.
Yeah, yeah. I get it.
I know that. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And even if it's a close loss, maybe still Super Bowl champs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I got you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's how we do that. But if we lose, then we don't belong there, right? Yeah.
We should have never been in the game. Yeah, we'll see.
Yeah, maybe like a three-point loss.

Speaker 1 I'm like, yeah, they're probably still Super Bowl champs. All right.

Speaker 8 Six-point loss.

Speaker 1 Then I'm like, maybe playoffs and then anything double-digits. I'm like, this team stinks again.

Speaker 1 I love your honesty by the way i mean that sounds that sounds like it really is how you can listen to the episode after that and you'd be like yep they were true to their word do you do you watch any uh any sports television any like uh recap shows are you going to tune in on on friday morning if you guys win or lose in that game do you pay attention to anything that's out there no i don't i don't and and because that

Speaker 8 honest i've always been that way because i know it's it's kind of like what you guys say it's man this league is so gray and what's being said every we live in the world of gray and it's not black and white.

Speaker 8 So you win, man, there is so much hype and there's so much, you get patted on the back and

Speaker 8 man, you got to be careful because you can buy into that and that's not reality. Just like you don't win and you're reading that, man, you can lose confidence.
And so I just stay out of that, man.

Speaker 8 And I live in the moment and I just go off the tape and what the coaches say because that's a, you got to be careful with that stuff. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So you mentioned the Giants coming in for a joint practice. Brian Dable, great year last last year.
You coached with him in Miami.

Speaker 1 He told a story that when you were interviewing for the tight end coaching job, you spent half the interview out of breath because you were smashing tables and chairs.

Speaker 1 True or false? All right.

Speaker 8 True, I was out of breath. True, I used chairs.

Speaker 1 I used chairs.

Speaker 1 I don't know how much I was. I was similar.
I used some chairs.

Speaker 8 I don't know if I was smashing

Speaker 1 the chairs into the walls and there was holes everywhere.

Speaker 8 I think he exaggerated on that. But yeah, okay, look, most of it was true.

Speaker 1 Most of it was true. Passionate.

Speaker 8 Yeah, it was unbelievable. It was the best.
Look, Dave's, man, he is a bright, bright coach, man.

Speaker 8 I was fortunate to be able to work under him as the OC. I learned a ton from him, but he's an unbelievable dude.

Speaker 8 But yeah, and Tony Sperano was the head coach. God rest his soul.

Speaker 8 But, you know, he had said, he had told Dave, oh, hey, man, I got a guy. I want you to just interview him.
And, man,

Speaker 8 come I was fresh out of playing right I had just really retired the year before or and I and then I was on staff with Tony as a kind of assistant O-line coach and so that next year 2011 he gets the job

Speaker 8 You know, and so he asked him, hey, man, why don't you

Speaker 8 let him interview? Well, I didn't have the packet. I didn't have all these, you know, I mean, I'm as, I don't know how you're supposed to interview as a coach.

Speaker 8 So all I know is I'm just going to go in there and go through it. It's like I was a a player, all right.

Speaker 8 Here's the technique, here's the chair, here's how I'm gonna do it, here's the play, and then running routes, I'm running around the table, I'm up at the top.

Speaker 8 So, I just demoed everything, I just demoed the whole thing, and then he was so I could tell he was trying to keep from laughing.

Speaker 1 Of course, I'm dripping with sweat.

Speaker 8 Yes, I'm out of breath, you know. Um, and then he would throw, all right, what happens at that chair, back that chair up 10 yards.
Now, how you do it, you know?

Speaker 8 Um, yes, it was awesome.

Speaker 1 He, to your credit, he also said that the next morning you were in the gym at 6 a.m. deadlifting.
So, you were.

Speaker 8 Actually, power clean.

Speaker 1 I didn't do deadlift, but yes, I did. So you were ready to go still.
But that's a great story.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's, you know, I would imagine the interview for the head coaching job here may be a little less sweaty.

Speaker 8 But it was the same thing. I started with the Zoom, so I was just showing Sheila all these moves.
I was demoing.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 8 I was much more prepared to interview as a head coach. And I had all my ducks in a row.

Speaker 1 It was, yes.

Speaker 3 And then you worked with Sean Payton for a while.

Speaker 1 I did.

Speaker 3 And there was just a story that came out the other day. And in that story, it talked about how he uh he likes, he's got a video editor on staff that makes all these motivational films for him.

Speaker 3 Like he edited in, I think, like a car driving off a cliff. I know that he used to play like the video of the rats getting snapped, have their necks snapped by mousetraps.
Yes.

Speaker 3 What was what was the one thing about motivating people you learned from Sean? Do you do any of that stuff?

Speaker 8 I do. I do.
I'd like to change it up. I don't have as many of those little trinket videos, some of those things, but Sean was always great in doing those those things.

Speaker 8 And a lot of that, Coach Parcells was that way too.

Speaker 8 But

Speaker 8 look, Sean, I just go back to this. I owe Sean everything, man.
I learned more under Sean. I spent more time under Sean Payton than any other coach in this league as a player and a coach.

Speaker 8 I mean, I was with him for

Speaker 8 eight years out of my 11 as a player. And then I coached under him for five.
So I learned so much as a player, and I learned a ton of what I am as a coach, you know, from him.

Speaker 8 But yeah, he was always that, you know, Sean now, he's, he's off the chain. He'll do some stuff.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 But, but he, he gets your attention, you know, leaving gas cans in the lockers.

Speaker 1 He did that.

Speaker 8 I told the story the other day. You were talking about the mousetraps.
We, we, the players came in when I was at New Orleans

Speaker 8 and,

Speaker 8 you know, I don't know, we just won six in a row, you know, somewhere five or six in a row. I think this was 2017.

Speaker 8 And, and, uh, and we're playing an opponent who is perceived as a lesser opponent than than the ones we just were able to beat that nobody thought we could beat.

Speaker 8 And we come in, I mean, there are mouse traps hanging from the ceiling. I don't know how many there are.

Speaker 8 I mean, it just looks like thousands of them, you know, and I don't even know who did it, who had them put up, but, you know, and they've got them up there and there's some cheese on the floor and everything else.

Speaker 8 And it was that whole deal. Don't take the cheese.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
So very important question

Speaker 1 in terms of motivation. You said, I think it was two years ago when you guys lost the Eagles, you said you buried the tape.
Did you actually bury the tape?

Speaker 8 Yeah. AG took it out there.
Okay, good. He took it out there and every one of the players had an opportunity to just throw a little dirt on it.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 And yeah, it was literally, it's buried out there somewhere right behind the facility here. Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. I'm so happy because I was worried for a second because I think actually Tony Sperron, who we mentioned earlier, he buried a football at one point.

Speaker 1 Like literally buried.

Speaker 8 I think he did that when he took over his interim at the Raiders.

Speaker 1 Yes, the Raiders, yeah. Yeah.
He did.

Speaker 8 Well, and look, here's what's funny about it, right? They buried the tape. Well, who has the tape anymore, right? Right.
Everything is digital now.

Speaker 8 So we like literally had to have our video, video department, they kind of put it on. I guess it was more of a CD, if you will, or a.

Speaker 3 A external hard drive. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 8 You know, and it's like, all right, we've got it there. Now let's take it out and bury it.

Speaker 1 So it wasn't like the old school, you know.

Speaker 8 You buried a computer.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I love that.
I love that. I'm so happy you said that because I was worried you were just saying metaphorically you buried the tape.
No, you literally buried the tape.

Speaker 8 We literally did. That's great.

Speaker 1 That's very good.

Speaker 3 I mean, I remember when you were in Miami and the Dantalica days, make everybody wear

Speaker 3 black practice uniforms. You remember that?

Speaker 1 Oh, of course.

Speaker 3 I mean, the wide stance.

Speaker 3 This is the stuff that we remember. Yeah, power stance.

Speaker 1 Of course we remember that.

Speaker 3 Are you able to play any Metallica here or do you let somebody else take control of the music?

Speaker 8 No, we've got, what I've done is I let

Speaker 8 the person that we have that runs the music for us,

Speaker 8 they handle it, but it goes through our players. So I let our players, obviously our most veteran guys, get to decide what's out there in practice.

Speaker 8 But I told them, once a day, I just want, just give me one. All right.
That's all I ask. Just give me one Metallica song somewhere in there, and we're good.
And everything else belongs to the players.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I like that. All right, so a little weird question.
You run hot.

Speaker 1 You're on record as running hot. I run hot as well.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Ideal sleeping temperature, if you could pick it, because the article that they had in the athletic was like, your wife has to go to bed in full sweats and like a parkup.

Speaker 8 But if you're like on the road, and you could get it to any temperature yeah on the road if if i can get it i mean normally the lowest you can get is 55 right in a hotel right i got it at 55.

Speaker 8 okay i get it as low as i can get it at home with holly yes she does she wears the sweats then it's you're looking at 65 is about as far as i can go where 68 and i got the fan on full tilt yeah um i got the front i got the chili pad underneath you know i got that cranked down in the 60s so so if you could you'd be in the 40s if you could man if i could i would i love a meat walker yeah.

Speaker 8 I would, yes.

Speaker 3 Your first move when you check in the hotel, you go straight for that thermostat?

Speaker 8 I do. Man, people.
Yeah. Yeah, I do.
That's the right thing. I do.

Speaker 1 Push the thermostat and then pull the sheets because I hate the tucked-in sheets. No doubt.
Rip them. Yes, no doubt.

Speaker 8 You want your feet to feel free. I don't want them hanging out, but I want them free.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 8 Otherwise, your toes get all bunched up in there. It hurts.

Speaker 8 But no, that.

Speaker 8 Yeah, you're talking about the tent. Here's my, man, I can sweat all day outside.
I got no problem. Heat, humidity, I don't care.

Speaker 8 But it's like, man, when I come inside, I don't want to come inside and drip with sweat. Yeah.
You know, it's not my deal. Especially sleeping, man.
I don't want to sleep hot.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I run hot as well. There you go.
Yeah. I have just like not even a blanket, just a cover, like a sheet.
Yes. I run hot.
I hear you. Yeah.
I'm all in. What about

Speaker 1 how many pints of Talenti are you eating these days?

Speaker 8 Actually, I backed down.

Speaker 1 Because you were doing, what, two to three a night?

Speaker 8 Yeah, I'm down to one.

Speaker 1 And that's not every night right now. Believe it or not.
And it's not.

Speaker 8 It's not because of any like well i just need to watch my what i just i don't know i haven't craved to in a while so i just i'm down to one and uh and though you know i'll go three nights in a row and then sometimes i i don't go for another two nights or something so what about coffee how many cups are we up to today yeah i'm well as of right now i'm only two i haven't had anything post-practice this morning though you know i had the whatever the big the big venties and uh two shots in each like i've done i haven't changed that routine

Speaker 1 i brought you some coffee oh you did yeah i have a coffee company so right there we have, I bought you everything. Oh, there you go.
Beans, grounds,

Speaker 1 brew, some hats that just say coffee on it. I love it.
So I got it all for you. I love it.

Speaker 8 I appreciate it. Yeah, I knew you were coffee.

Speaker 1 I didn't get you guys anything. No, your presence is a present as well.
Yeah. Thank you.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I do love the attention to detail. Even the coffee warmers here have, or the hand coolers have grit on them.
You like that? And I saw some guy outside.

Speaker 3 He was wearing a massive chain that had grit and big letters at the bottom. I didn't know if that was team issued or if that was something that he made and brought from home.

Speaker 1 No, I haven't seen it.

Speaker 8 Was that a player?

Speaker 8 Was was that i think it was in the friends and family section oh okay i gotta find that you should do like a because we have not doled out like grit chains or anything that's not a bad idea

Speaker 3 yeah instead of like the turnover chain film study i like tuesday you're watching you win the grit the grit chain for this week i like that that's actually a great idea about that yeah you can use that one you can get a whole economy going of grit if we do that i'm gonna give you credit for that there we go they mean grit coin uh i've got i've got uh a segment that we do with every interview that we have it's questions from a third grader So I talked to Miss Joyce's third grade class in Dripping Springs, Texas, and they had three questions for you.

Speaker 3 You know Dripping Springs?

Speaker 8 Yeah, down in Central Texas.

Speaker 3 Yep, yep. First question was, do you like cats or dogs?

Speaker 8 Dogs.

Speaker 3 Good answer. That's correct.
Good answer.

Speaker 3 Second question, this is from Brian. He's eight.
What's your favorite food?

Speaker 8 Favorite food? Probably ribeye steak.

Speaker 1 That's another great answer.

Speaker 3 Third question is from Jenny. She's also eight.
Do you think that Saint Anger was unfairly maligned by critics who didn't understand the sonic importance of the album?

Speaker 8 It's a pretty good question. It's a great question.

Speaker 1 It's an

Speaker 1 eight-year-old. Eight-year-olds, absolutely, I do.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's a great question. It is.

Speaker 8 I don't know if she asked it, but I learned that.

Speaker 1 No, she's really. Yeah, yeah.
It's an outstanding question. That's a totally real thing we do.
People sleep on Saint Anger, I guess.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 8 That's outstanding.

Speaker 1 Do you listen to Rage 2?

Speaker 8 No.

Speaker 1 Oh, so it's just Metallica. Yeah.
What's the second? Like, what's your second favorite?

Speaker 8 Honestly, I'm Metallica, and then I'm like Classic Rock. Okay.
To be honest with you. And I love Classic Country.

Speaker 8 Those are kind of my... So I don't, I kind of, it's just, I've got this,

Speaker 8 you know, I don't know. Metallica's just, I've always been partial to the album.

Speaker 3 It's its own genre, kind of. If we're ranking classic rock, what's your favorite classic rock bands?

Speaker 8 Leonard Skinner.

Speaker 1 Yes. Correct.

Speaker 8 Leonard Skinner would definitely be up there. Number two,

Speaker 8 number two, probably Journey.

Speaker 8 Number three, Foreigner.

Speaker 8 You know, it's about as far as I'm at right now.

Speaker 1 That's a good list.

Speaker 3 I've been learning Freebird for the last three years.

Speaker 8 I like Dire Straits. Yeah.

Speaker 8 You know, say it again.

Speaker 3 I've been learning Free Bird for the last three years on my guitar.

Speaker 1 Three years? I haven't.

Speaker 3 I've peaked at 75%.

Speaker 3 But maybe you could motivate me to finally finish Freebird.

Speaker 8 I would have to be with you in the moment while you're doing it.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah.
I think.

Speaker 8 To have any help. And I can't guarantee I could, but I much better than just over the phone or Zoom.

Speaker 3 What about like if I wake up in the morning and I'm like, I really don't want to practice that same song again.

Speaker 8 I could do that. Call me.

Speaker 1 Okay. Call me.

Speaker 1 You don't mean that.

Speaker 3 I think I can help you out.

Speaker 1 This isn't a question. It's just a statement.
We love Jared Goff.

Speaker 8 Yeah, absolutely. I love Jared Goff.
The we love Jared Goff. I'm glad you love Jared Goff.
I love Jared Goff. The we love him.
I'm glad you love him.

Speaker 1 We love him so much that we'll let you have him.

Speaker 8 Thank you very much. If

Speaker 1 There you go.

Speaker 1 See what we did there? We let him have him. Thank you for that.
He'll come back. Yeah, thank you for that.

Speaker 3 What's it like coaching your son, Jack?

Speaker 8 You know,

Speaker 8 well, look, there's times where I'm really proud of him, that he's part of my lineage. But then there's other parts that I don't claim him.

Speaker 8 And that's just part of being a rookie.

Speaker 1 He's got to grow and learn.

Speaker 3 Is there a small part of drafting? You're like,

Speaker 3 let's move him up one spot.

Speaker 1 He's got a good last name. Yeah,

Speaker 1 my whole family can get the jersey.

Speaker 8 Yeah, that's what everybody thought. And it took me a while before I was like, Maybe I need to check and see if he is kin to me.

Speaker 8 We've been scouting him for about two months before it even dawned on me. I wonder if he's somewhere down the line.

Speaker 1 He's not, though.

Speaker 3 I got an actual football question here for you. In the draft, you also took Gibbs a running back, right?

Speaker 3 And there's been a lot of talk about running backs being kind of a devalued position over the last, what, 10, 12 years. Yeah.

Speaker 3 You saw something in him that made you want to grab him in the first round. What is it about Gibbs that you think is special enough to warrant that pick?

Speaker 8 For a college player,

Speaker 8 we knew he was smart. Like he was very smart and he was versatile.

Speaker 8 Those two things, like you can see the athletic ability. Like everybody knows what he ran.

Speaker 8 You see what he run. He's an explosive, fast athlete.
But then you see a guy who can read the wide zones. He can run some downhill runs.
And then, man, he's a factor in the pass game.

Speaker 8 The routes out of the backfield. We think there's more to him potentially outside as kind of a slot outside receiver.

Speaker 8 And he's smart, you know, because you can't do all that unless he is smart.

Speaker 8 And that's why, like AK, that's one of the reasons A.K. is the player that he's become is he's got these things in his body and versatility, but he's smart, man.

Speaker 8 And like you can, you can ask him to do a ton of different jobs because he can grasp it.

Speaker 8 And that's what intrigued us about him. And look, he's one of the best players in the draft.
This was not the strongest draft class or draft that there's been in a number of years.

Speaker 8 So we were all about, let's get the best players that we can get.

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Speaker 1 Just talk about football.

Speaker 8 Just talk about football.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Just talk about football.
Yeah, look,

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Speaker 8 No, look,

Speaker 8 here's what I'd say. No, I don't just cry on command.
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Speaker 8 man, we, anybody who's who's been able to play this sport at any level, man, when you're a kid,

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Speaker 8 and everybody's

Speaker 8 got to be going the same way to have success. One guy is out of the boat or he's not rowing and it'll mess everything up.
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Speaker 8 But I just, I respect the hell out of it. And to me, we owe it as players, coaches, anybody that's associated with to give it everything you've got because it is an unbelievable game, man.

Speaker 1 You're about to cry.

Speaker 8 I know. I just get emotional.

Speaker 1 i love it i mean that's i it makes me so pumped when you talk about football there was that moment in hard knocks where you had that like the end of hard knocks and it was like this guy cares so much and i love watching people who care that much about something it's like it's it's it's something that you just like you draw it off someone you're like that energy is something special and you have it well i i don't know but I appreciate it.

Speaker 8 Look, I love the game, man. And I love people that give all they have to it, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 1 You're the best, though. We could not have picked a better guy to start Grit Week for us.

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Speaker 1 Okay, boys, Mount Rush more of recurring guests.

Speaker 1 This is going to be,

Speaker 1 this might not be the smartest thing we've done.

Speaker 3 I'm excited about it, though, because it is. It feels like some feelings will get hurt.
There's stakes on the line for this.

Speaker 1 It's like three levels of feelings, too, because it's the recurring guests that will see this and anyone who gets left off. It is us having to pick.
our favorite recurring guests.

Speaker 1 And then there's pressure on the AWLs. They vote for their favorite grouping of recurring guests.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you could really piss some people off.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so this is all around

Speaker 1 going to be interesting.

Speaker 6 We're also back to, we're all, we're all, every Mount Rushmore is going to be recorded live. Yep.
The standings, 16, Big Hat and PFT, 16, Jake and Billy, 15, me and Max.

Speaker 6 So all, all, all the North Carolina recordings are over. It's, it's the rest of the summer.
Some are calling it the Grit Week War.

Speaker 1 It is the Grit Week War. And this.
We've already decided, by the way, because we do try to, we take feedback. We try to evolve.
Next summer, we're going to go back to solo, me, pft, and hank. And uh,

Speaker 1 you know, if you lose, it doesn't matter. But this one, so it's savor the war is what I'm saying.
You have one month left of the Mount Rushmore War. Next summer, we'll switch it back up.

Speaker 1 And the summer after that, we'll switch it back up. But this is this, this, this next month will be as contentious as it gets.

Speaker 3 We're reading the ideas from AWLs for Mount Rushmores. And when we came across this one, we said out loud in the cars, me, Pitcat, and Hank.
And all three of us simultaneously go, oh my God. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Because it's like, it's that feeling your butthole puckers. You're excited.
You start sweating. This is the mark of a good Mount Rushmore topic.

Speaker 1 This is. Yes.
What were the other ones that we were thinking about?

Speaker 6 There's a lot of good ones.

Speaker 1 Mount Rushmore of

Speaker 3 Billy's lies that he's told. Yes.
That was good. That would be a good one.
Yep.

Speaker 1 Mount Rush, was there one Mount Rushmore of Hank's

Speaker 1 golf videos or golf shots? That sucked. There was something about Hank.
You were going through it for the whole weekend. No.
No. Yeah, you were.
No.

Speaker 3 Mount Mountain Rushmore of Hank golf YouTube comments.

Speaker 1 That whole outside would be a good one. Yeah.
That would be fire. We should do that.

Speaker 3 Hank, for how much you play golf, you'd think you'd be better.

Speaker 1 We should do that one.

Speaker 3 Oh, Hank, do you want to spoil the alert? You should watch the me versus Hank golf video that came out on Thursday. What was it called?

Speaker 3 It was called, it was actually originally titled Breaking 100 because Hank and I were on the same team, but then it evolved into something much more interesting than that.

Speaker 1 It was just Breaking 100. That's all it was.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Me and Hank on a team. Was Trenton in it?

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 1 I'm just kidding. All right.

Speaker 6 What's the order?

Speaker 8 Do we have it?

Speaker 3 Jake sent it to us, right? Jake's not here. Nobody sent it to us.

Speaker 12 Jake said.

Speaker 1 You are concussed. Dude,

Speaker 1 I had

Speaker 1 for the hard time.

Speaker 6 Me and Max, Big Cat, and PFT, Jake and Billy.

Speaker 3 Billy, what did you do last night?

Speaker 7 Have an allergic reaction?

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 1 To beer?

Speaker 1 I hope not.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 8 All right. 1-1.

Speaker 1 Wait, we're going right into it?

Speaker 6 Yeah. Okay.
What else? What else? I'm just nervous.

Speaker 3 I'm nervous too.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I mean, I spent a lot of time thinking about this. You know, I've produced pretty much every episode except for the ones I'm on vacation.
Probably, probably 90%, 95%.

Speaker 6 I've been around for.

Speaker 1 Oh, man, I don't know. 90%.
I actually think I know what you're going to pick. At least.

Speaker 3 He was the first person.

Speaker 6 He was a huge name, superstar. He came on.
He did the interview. It got picked up by all the big outlets.
It was one of the kind of like, wow, we've made it moments. Oh, wow.

Speaker 6 He is the biggest winner of, he has had the, won the most awards of our biggest award of the year, Blake of the Year, Boston Celtic, Blake Griffin.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.
That's a good pick. Good pick.
I thought you were going to go with something else. I think we go with R1-1.
Sure.

Speaker 3 Yeah, let's see.

Speaker 1 I think he has been on the most episodes.

Speaker 3 We liked him so much we hired him. Yeah,

Speaker 1 he is the most dependable recurring guest we have. It's never a bad time.
It is Ryan Whitney. Ryan Whitney is Mr.
Dependable. And

Speaker 1 I don't think anyone has ever listened to a Ryan Whitney interview and not had a great time.

Speaker 3 From day one, he came on and he was talking about gas and beers, Chuck and Knox.

Speaker 1 Chuck and Knox, all the situations like that. Yeah, I mean, I, I, that's who I thought you were going to go with.
I thought, because like he is, I think he is the most. I think he, when we did it.

Speaker 1 But we have a whole award dedicated to Blake. I understand.
If we had a Ryan of the Year, Ryan Woodney would be the guy.

Speaker 1 We don't need a Ryan of the Year. He's our Ryan of the Year.
Yeah. Hey, I can't.
Hey.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 I said, A.

Speaker 1 Wow. I just said, A.
He's our Ryan of the Year, not our Rhian of the Year. Wow.

Speaker 1 Big difference. Those are two separate awards.
Two totally different awards.

Speaker 1 Two totally different awards. I guess.
No, their names are different. Sure.

Speaker 1 How do you spell them?

Speaker 6 Okay, you can spell Alex different ways, too. It's the same name.

Speaker 1 No, no, it's not. That's not true.
We literally have a Brooks in our Blake of the Year.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He's a Blake.
He's a Blake.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 7 Go ahead. Chew back-to-back.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 Yep. You should do that.
Who is going to make sure this doesn't get contentious?

Speaker 7 No, I'm going

Speaker 7 Deep Cuts.

Speaker 12 Lenny Dykstra.

Speaker 1 Okay. Good pick.

Speaker 7 And Stingray Steve.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.
Okay.

Speaker 1 So only eight times. I was so mad if he was in this room.

Speaker 1 He got killed. You talked about Kelly Steve.
That's so funny. No, no, no, no.

Speaker 7 The eight-timers will know. The seven, six-timers may not be eight-timers cool.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 3 they were like, they weren't even really guests.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but they were good.

Speaker 5 Dude, I almost pissed myself in the car when you guys were calling Lenny Dyingstra.

Speaker 1 It was so fucking funny. Yeah, I think Lenny's a good pick.
Stingray Steve's not.

Speaker 7 The Hindenburg?

Speaker 1 The Hindenburg. No, I know, I know.
But it also went. All the humanity.

Speaker 1 Those you know, know. Those you know, know.
All right, here we go. Um, I should we just do

Speaker 3 another Ryan? But we could go, we could collect them all.

Speaker 1 Yeah, let's collect all the Ryan's.

Speaker 3 Ryan Rossillo. Yeah.
We got Rosillo.

Speaker 1 Also, Mr. Dependent.

Speaker 3 We got Whitney.

Speaker 1 What are you looking at me for?

Speaker 6 I'll let you explain your pick first.

Speaker 3 Well, we need explanation about Ryan Rossillo. He's great.
The life episodes, Ryan is incredible on those. He's been a great friend of the show throughout the years.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Those are our two like rocks.

Speaker 1 If you had to, like, if you had to be like who are we calling up for a show who who we know will show up it's the ryans and also i think those two could probably beat up as a tag team duo almost every other combination yes yes what what

Speaker 6 go ahead denigrate i'm not i'm not denigrating right ryan russill is a great guest ryan of the year

Speaker 1 ryan of the year yeah rian of the year got it yeah he's rian of the year

Speaker 6 um all right we are going to go again i'm i'm thinking the long term i'm thinking of the show like best recurring guests okay we weren't thinking of that either

Speaker 6 Scott Van Pelt.

Speaker 1 Good pick. Okay, great pick.
Good pick.

Speaker 6 And then we're going to go with the.

Speaker 1 He might not come on again because his house burned down last time he came on.

Speaker 3 That's sad. I'm sorry to hear that.

Speaker 1 He sucks. Yeah, a lot.
Do you not remember that? I do. Yeah.

Speaker 6 That's yeah, that's unfortunate.

Speaker 6 But great recurring guest. Only

Speaker 6 one of the only guests on Barcelona Van Talk.

Speaker 3 Absolute legend. Head was spinning right now with delight.

Speaker 1 What? His head spinning. With delight.

Speaker 3 The logo spinning. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The Mets traded Matt Schreeser. And he got picked on the recurring guest.

Speaker 3 Also, Scott Van Pellet, I think that his dome would look awesome on a real Mount Rushmore carved in the side of a mountain.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 And then we're going to go with Tim Woods.

Speaker 1 Okay. Good pick.
That was a pander pick. Good pick.
That's a great pick.

Speaker 6 How is that a pander pick?

Speaker 1 All right. What should we do here?

Speaker 6 What are you looking at, Max? I mean, I'm just looking at Billy.

Speaker 1 I like

Speaker 1 two. Numbers a good guy.
I like two. Oh, yeah.
Let's go two. Easy.
Yeah. Yeah.
Jerry O'Connell. Easy.

Speaker 3 Love Jerry. Love Jerry.
Love Jerry. Had no idea what to expect from Jerry first day he came in.
And just a delightful man.

Speaker 1 He's become like a very big part of this show through an interview that we thought we're like, oh, fuck, we'll do Jerry O'Connell. And then we're like, this guy's the best.

Speaker 1 So, yeah. Can't wait for our fantasy football preview with Jerry O'Connell this year.

Speaker 7 Billy. Two more back-to-back.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yep. That's all.
I'm going to go with Joe Burrow.

Speaker 1 This is bad. Feelings are going to get hurt.

Speaker 7 there's so many that i no no i'm going joe burrow and josh allen okay okay good point

Speaker 1 i would have taken them before the stingray i literally got first vaccinated to like meet josh allen that's the only reason i got vaccinated what yeah wait you got vaccinated none of us yeah dude

Speaker 3 josh allen would be so mad at you if you if he found that out i know

Speaker 7 that was literally the only reason what did

Speaker 6 we didn't even get vaccinated i know dude it was like did you just not did jake even send you a list i I didn't even look at his list.

Speaker 1 Can we read Jake's list after? Yeah, let's read it after. Okay, after.
That would be great. All right, this is big.

Speaker 3 Okay, it is big.

Speaker 1 Because Billy's punted on this entire draft. I like 10, 11.

Speaker 3 He still might win.

Speaker 8 Let's go with six.

Speaker 3 Okay. Six.
Great.

Speaker 1 Can we see these? Chris Burman. Chris Burman.

Speaker 1 We're taking boomer. Oh, really? Oh, you're pumped about that? Yeah.
Okay. Boomer.

Speaker 1 And just so we know, just so we're clear, Hank made us pick six.

Speaker 1 Any other great recurring guests?

Speaker 3 It would have been you. It would have been you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, for sure. Just so we're clear.

Speaker 1 I'm talking to all of them. They know exactly who they are.
It would have been you. Hank took that out of our hands.
He made that pick for us.

Speaker 1 Just anyone who's listening right now is like, why did I get picked? It literally was going to be it. Blame Hank.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 I'm thrilled he made it this far. I kind of regretted him not taking the last round.
The people's lawyer, Mike Portnoy. Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 Good pick. Had him in our list.
Good pick. Yeah.
Yeah, he was going to be

Speaker 1 duh. Well, no, our pick would have been, if it wasn't for your pick of Chris Berman for us, it would have been Max Homa.
It would have been Chris and Kyle Long.

Speaker 1 I mean, Chris Long was the first guest on the show.

Speaker 6 He was the first person you wanted to get on the show. You didn't even pick it.

Speaker 1 It would have been tight.

Speaker 1 Same for you, dude. You've been on the show.

Speaker 6 Well, it's not my show.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it is. We had a third or third.

Speaker 3 We had Coach O.

Speaker 1 No, it's not. Yeah, it is.

Speaker 3 We had Joe Buck.

Speaker 1 You get paid just as much as me in PFP. No, not even.
Dr. Fauci

Speaker 1 was on my list, on my shortlist. Dr.

Speaker 7 Fauci was on my short list.

Speaker 1 Dan Heron,

Speaker 1 Joe Buck,

Speaker 1 Greg Olson, Blake Bortles, Kittle, Paul,

Speaker 1 Brooks, Death, Death,

Speaker 1 so many good ones. Tommy Lasorda, also Marlinsburger's death, foul ball guy, foul ball guy, Bill Walton, Michael Rappaport,

Speaker 3 Michael John Cena, John Edelman, Dak Prescott, Julian Edelman.

Speaker 6 I should have picked Edelman. Briscillo.
Julian, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 We should do worse than that. That one.

Speaker 1 Oh, you didn't pick Jules. I should have picked Jules.
He was our WR pick. Yeah.
And you made us pick Chris Berman.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's tough. Shit.

Speaker 12 I should have gotten death instead of this was a dumb thing for us to do.

Speaker 1 This is a really dumb thing.

Speaker 3 You want to just bleed this entire thing out?

Speaker 1 Well, also, Billy punted.

Speaker 6 Like, we didn't even. The board.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, we couldn't.

Speaker 1 We should have had both Long Brothers. We should have had Jules.
Billy.

Speaker 1 I didn't punt.

Speaker 1 Give us Jake's list.

Speaker 7 Well, it was all the ones you just said.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 7 SVP, Blakes, Witt, Biz, Buck, Mr. Portnoy, Portnoy, Elm,

Speaker 7 Titus, Josh, Allen, which I got. So

Speaker 3 he's gonna be so mad at you for Stingray, Steve. Because Billy is trying to throw this draft.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm not, but his

Speaker 1 bots will probably give him the victory. I don't have bots.
I don't sorry, I don't know that.

Speaker 6 I glanced over at Billy's computer in the thing, and the first thing on the thing was Dr. Fauci, and I just, I saw.

Speaker 1 Who else?

Speaker 1 We've had some great guests. AJ Green, Nichols, A.J.

Speaker 6 Green, DK Metcalf. DK.

Speaker 1 DK Metcalf is A.J. Green is a joke.
DK Metcalf for real. Yeah.
Ike Taylor. Oh, yeah.
He was right there.

Speaker 6 Yeah, he was hilarious. Yeah.

Speaker 1 This actually came from Mike Tyson.

Speaker 6 LaShamps

Speaker 1 interview on Friday, who he will be a recurring guest. Frable.

Speaker 3 Frable.

Speaker 3 He's going to kill us.

Speaker 1 LaFleur for taking all the shit that we give him.

Speaker 6 Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Aaron Rodgers. Yeah.
My favorite guy.

Speaker 6 Gronk.

Speaker 1 Gronk.

Speaker 3 Liver King. I thought Billy was going to take Liver King.
I did did too.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 He was really short.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I mean, Billy picked a guy that was... Singer Steve never was a guest.
He just, he, we,

Speaker 6 he recorded a call that we played.

Speaker 3 He was one of my favorite.

Speaker 7 Lily was probably my favorite guest.

Speaker 1 He basically wasn't able to.

Speaker 1 I like this show so much more seven years ago. Yeah.

Speaker 3 We might get some.

Speaker 1 But that also was when you weren't on it. I know.

Speaker 1 Cell phone.

Speaker 3 Billy's the first person that replies like this show is so much better before Billy. I can't wait till Billy's gone.

Speaker 3 Though, yeah, those are all Billy's spots because he wants to go back to listening to part of my table.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Are you going to listen again, Billy?

Speaker 7 It's going to be hard.

Speaker 1 I didn't call it. Fine, because we ruined your life? No, no.

Speaker 1 It's going to be hard.

Speaker 3 It's actually very easy to listen to a podcast.

Speaker 1 No, I mean,

Speaker 1 download.

Speaker 3 It's like two thumbs. You need two touches of your thumb.

Speaker 7 I'm not driving anywhere anymore.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 Because you lost your license. Well, we don't talk about that.
Okay, yeah. Dude, I thought.
Pleep that out.

Speaker 1 Good wink, Billy. Billy.
Good job.

Speaker 1 With an all-time wink. I don't know which camera he was playing.

Speaker 1 That wasn't that aggressive.

Speaker 1 Well, actually, my eyes are so puffy. My eyes are swollen.
Max, can you please make a gift?

Speaker 3 If out of that because I want to make sure that you're going to be able to

Speaker 1 get the aliens.

Speaker 1 Aliens.

Speaker 3 All right. You could draft, maybe.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm going to win. Getting any honorable mentions.

Speaker 12 I'm going to to fucking win this draft.

Speaker 1 We should just put underneath

Speaker 1 all the honorable mentions. Tom Fernelli.
Good

Speaker 1 angels. We should put an honorable mention and just list them all.
Oh, Florio.

Speaker 3 Florio. Prisco.

Speaker 1 Schefter. All the Italian Sanders.

Speaker 3 Yelich.

Speaker 1 Fuck. Kittle.
Kittle. I said Kittle.
Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 3 We were going to pick Kittle, actually. We were.

Speaker 1 He was our other pick.

Speaker 10 The worst is going to be the people that we didn't even mention right here.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying. We need to do an honorable mention.
I know. Can we do an honorable mention with literally every guest we've ever had? I don't know.
It's going to take a while. Randy Moss.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yes.
Randy Moss for sure.

Speaker 3 Kirk Holster. Goldsbury.
Yeah. Sorry, Kirk.

Speaker 1 Damn it.

Speaker 1 You guys. Kirk Herbstreak.
There's more than Herbstreak. Yeah.
Kirk Minahan. Riggs.
McShea. McShea.
Fuck.

Speaker 6 Dave Portnoy.

Speaker 1 Daniel Jeremiah. Dave Portnoy.
Aaron Nagler. All right.
Who else? Anyone? I mean, we're just listing every guest now.

Speaker 3 I mean, it's just too many to name.

Speaker 6 Aaron Andrews, Clisser Thompson. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Fuck.
Bonk. Bonk.
Roselle. Bunk.

Speaker 7 Patrol.

Speaker 3 Layla Ali.

Speaker 1 Stav.

Speaker 1 Shab.

Speaker 1 Burt Pressure. Yeah, I had stuff.
Burt.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of fuck.

Speaker 3 We really fucked up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this was a mistake.

Speaker 3 This is a bad idea.

Speaker 3 Genie Bouchard.

Speaker 1 Genie Bouchard.

Speaker 10 TJ McCallum.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we haven't had him on in a while. He's got to come back off.

Speaker 1 Reddick.

Speaker 7 Sons and Four guy.

Speaker 1 Sure.

Speaker 1 He does not understand the assignment.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 1 The guy, the dog judge. That interview rocked.
It did. That was an awesome interview.

Speaker 3 Marina's dad.

Speaker 6 Yeah. Garrett McNamara.

Speaker 3 Duncan Robinson.

Speaker 6 John Taffer.

Speaker 1 Garrett McNaffe. Big wave surfer.
Big wave surfer. Okay, I was like, oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 He's allergic allergic to the water. Oh, he's allergic to water.

Speaker 6 No, he's allergic to the ocean. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Adam Morrison.

Speaker 6 John Taffer.

Speaker 1 Taffer. Taffer.
Yeah, fuck.

Speaker 1 Really fucked up. Guy Fiari.
Guy Fiari.

Speaker 1 That's enough.

Speaker 1 There's like 17 ways to say his last name, and that's the.

Speaker 3 This was such a bad idea. Fiari?

Speaker 1 Fierre?

Speaker 1 Fieri.

Speaker 1 Fieri. Fieri.
Fieri.

Speaker 6 DK Metcalf and Aaron Donald. We should probably post some of those clips.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Memes, get on that, please. I haven't seen any of those clips.
I don't think memes have ever posted anything.

Speaker 3 How much can they bench memes?

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Speaker 1 Love Bic. I have an idea.

Speaker 6 Okay, what's the idea, Dan?

Speaker 1 There's three shows this week. Yep, okay.

Speaker 1 I think we should do a random drawing

Speaker 1 on the three shows, and one person has to shave. Nope,

Speaker 1 yep. I'm down.
I'm in. I'm in.
This is this is we can include. We can include so it's the five of us.
We can include memes four of us.

Speaker 3 I'm not doing it.

Speaker 1 You're not shaving? No.

Speaker 3 Hank, don't you want to go above and beyond?

Speaker 1 If you're random in, you can leave a mustache.

Speaker 6 I don't want to do this either.

Speaker 7 Who wants to hear my idea, which is be more receptive?

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah, I'd love to hear Billy's idea. Waffle house.
Okay. Okay.
All right.

Speaker 1 All right. So everyone, you're out.
Yeah. You're out.
Everyone loves the idea. Yep.
You're fully out.

Speaker 3 I'd just like to say that I'm in for the idea.

Speaker 1 All right. Great.

Speaker 1 I have a lot to lose. I'm in.

Speaker 1 Max. Hank's out.
Yeah, you could be in. You also might not get picked.
Hank, this is the thing where you can. I always get picked.
But if you go, you always lose.

Speaker 1 If you have no facial hair.

Speaker 3 I do have facial hair.

Speaker 1 If it's random.

Speaker 1 Billy has no facial hair. I have a lot.
You have kids. Okay.

Speaker 3 Hank, the aliens might come down overnight and then the world's over and you don't even have to.

Speaker 1 Hank, you might not get picked. Okay, but I.
Why don't you say, yes, you're in. And then if you get picked, picked, say no, I'm not.
How about goatee? He's lame.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you can do goatee.

Speaker 3 Okay. I did this.

Speaker 1 I've done this on Group League. Yeah.
All right, you're in for goatee? I'm in for go T. I'm in for mustache.
I did this second group week. PFT, you're in.
I've already

Speaker 1 built facebook. I'm in.
So it's going to be three times.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 1 Jake. I mean,

Speaker 3 Jake stays shaved.

Speaker 1 We're looking at people who don't have beards. Okay.

Speaker 3 Jake's a smooth boy.

Speaker 1 Name generator.

Speaker 1 Name picker.

Speaker 3 Jake's gonna be shaved anyways here we go

Speaker 1 all right so who's in

Speaker 1 everyone

Speaker 1 okay PFT

Speaker 3 Billy just put Hank's name in there just for fun just see what it would pick Jake

Speaker 1 memes

Speaker 1 big cat

Speaker 6 Max. You can put my name on there if you want, but I did.

Speaker 1 One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. All right.

Speaker 12 Would you do a goatee? I'll ready?

Speaker 1 I'll put a razor.

Speaker 6 I'll put a razor on my face.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, you guys are show the camera. Okay, let me make it.

Speaker 7 What about a goatee for the need beard, guys?

Speaker 3 Billy, are you serious?

Speaker 3 We just said that.

Speaker 1 I'm doing goatee. Yeah, you can do goatee.
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 3 I got an idea, guys.

Speaker 1 What about Waffle House? All right, here we go.

Speaker 1 Random name picker.

Speaker 1 Here we go.

Speaker 3 Watch the YouTube.

Speaker 1 It's going to be Hank.

Speaker 1 Ready?

Speaker 1 Fuck, it was me.

Speaker 1 Oh, that was great.

Speaker 3 That's perfect.

Speaker 10 That was great.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Well, tomorrow's interviews, I'll have a mustache.

Speaker 3 Also, Hank isn't allowed to celebrate this because he doesn't want to play it all.

Speaker 1 Not at all. All right, and we'll do it again on Tuesday, and then we'll do it again on Thursday.
I'm now off

Speaker 1 because I'm going to shave.

Speaker 3 Or your name's eliminated. Yeah, my name is eliminated.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to shave. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 10 I don't think that your name should still eliminate.

Speaker 1 Why would my name still be on? I'm going to shave. Well, then it's not.

Speaker 9 I mean, then it's not even that bad for you because you'll already be mustache.

Speaker 3 So then you should go ahead and shave then, too.

Speaker 1 It's not even that bad. Yeah.
No.

Speaker 10 Well, the second time would be a good idea.

Speaker 1 This is all because I love the sponsors. And this is a proof to clip this and put it out there.
Any sponsor will go above and beyond. Same.

Speaker 1 Except for Hank. He won't do shit.

Speaker 6 Literally sponsoring my asshole.

Speaker 1 He won't do shit. Do we have a Bic and do we have sand cream? Yes.
All right. Great.
We're going to do it right after the tune into the

Speaker 1 Monday vlog.

Speaker 1 What's the schedule for Grit Week videos this week?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 3 first Max is putting the Ryder Cup out.

Speaker 1 That's no, I'm not doing Ryder Cup.

Speaker 8 I'm not doing Ryder Cup.

Speaker 10 Monday is definitely Dan Campbell.

Speaker 1 You'll throw it into one of them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no. Well, this will be a social clip.
Oh, okay. okay.
Social clip. Yeah.
Great. Awesome.
I look so fucking fat. I'm like the fattest I've been in a long time.
It'll look great. Monday.

Speaker 11 Big, big Diet Start Day.

Speaker 1 Next Monday. I'm going to have to do all these interviews.
And the worst part is that we're going to do interviews that we're not going to run for like two weeks.

Speaker 1 So I'll have my beard back, but people will be like, ugh.

Speaker 1 Fuck. Okay.
All right. Monday reading.

Speaker 1 Fuck.

Speaker 1 Fuck. Fuck.

Speaker 1 Whatever. I'm fine with it.
I'm fine. Yeah, you're fine.
Everyone else is totally fine with it. Totally fine.
Everyone else is fine with it. My name was on the thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and it will be on it on Tuesday. It'll be on it on Thursday.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 7 Can I still use the BIC stuff? You can do go-teef.

Speaker 3 Or just sideburns, Hank. Long-ass sideburns.

Speaker 6 I did this already.

Speaker 1 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 6 I look like Mar from Home Alone.

Speaker 1 Remember Grit Week? I did the whole time.

Speaker 6 I was doing it. Each stop, I did a different thing, and it was a disaster.

Speaker 3 I erased that from my memory.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't remember. Yeah, no, I'll post the pictures.
Okay,

Speaker 1 alarming. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Monday reading, Coinboys. So I think PFTI both saw this on Twitter.
It is a screen crab from Reddit Teachers. Okay.
And it goes, every year these kids come back with a new annoying quirk.

Speaker 1 Coinboys are apparently the new thing. So it reads, in my 10th year of teaching, mostly freshmen, and I,

Speaker 1 what's STG?

Speaker 1 Uh, swear to God. And I swear to God, that is that's insane.
That's a teacher. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's yikes.

Speaker 3 Okay. I think it's concerning how fast you pick that up.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I swear to God, ever since the pandemic, and honestly, like five years before that, there's always a new thing students bring to school that they learned over the summer from the internet or wherever.

Speaker 1 The newest thing here is a flock of self-proclaimed coinboys who carry a quarter on hand at all times and constantly flip it.

Speaker 1 They have their entire personality revolve around coins, coin flips, and chance.

Speaker 1 When we went around doing an icebreaker, four or five of the kids said some variation of, I live by the coin and I die by the coin, as their fact. I love that.

Speaker 3 They're like Too-Face.

Speaker 1 This is the most dudes rock thing ever. Just about an hour ago, when I assigned the first assignment of the school year, one of the coin boys was bold enough to say, heads, I do it, tails, I don't.

Speaker 1 I told him if he flipped the coin, he would be getting a call home on the first week of high school. He flipped it anyway, and it came up heads.
Thank God for that, at least.

Speaker 1 That's such a boss move to your teacher. Heads, I do it.

Speaker 3 You're establishing dominance off the bat. I guarantee you she didn't call home.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Because he's going to do it. Yeah.
She's only going to call home if you're not going to do it.

Speaker 1 This is also one of those situations.

Speaker 3 What a rush that must be.

Speaker 1 Yeah, as much as she hates it, she also understands you do live by the coin, die by the coin.

Speaker 3 I actually think that she respects the coin.

Speaker 1 We should do this for the entire grit week. All of our decisions should be coin-based.

Speaker 3 Flip the coin you shave, Hank?

Speaker 1 Yeah. All of our decisions should be coin-based.

Speaker 1 But then the other coin...

Speaker 6 Shave your head.

Speaker 3 Give me a million dollars, Bic. I'll do it.

Speaker 6 If you put up shaving your head, I'll.

Speaker 3 I actually, I said, I said, tell Bic I will shave my head for a million dollars.

Speaker 6 I'll shave my beard for a million dollars. Okay.
Boom.

Speaker 6 You shave your head, I'll shave my beard.

Speaker 3 Okay. Million dollars, Bic.

Speaker 6 No, but like, why, why don't you, why don't you, why don't you want to do it for the sponsors? Don't you want to go above and beyond?

Speaker 3 Well, because I've been growing this hair out for

Speaker 3 11, 12 years.

Speaker 7 100k i'll undercut him

Speaker 1 uh all right back to the coin boys billy's a little nest egg but then the other coin boy in that class flipped his coin and came up tails so he doesn't have to do his homework he said the coin is spoken he's not doing it i say very well enjoy your zero and your call home what a great way to start off school year and your high school career i really hope this dies off soon i haven't seen anything online about this when i googled it so i'm guessing it's just a local friend group thing unless one of you has some more info Yeah.

Speaker 3 Well, it sounds as though they're high school freshmen, right? Yeah. So, you have to get creative sometimes when you're hanging out when you're freshmen.

Speaker 3 You don't always have a friend that can go out, buy you beer or whatever. You have, you have a lot of time to kill around your house.

Speaker 3 So, it sounds like they just got really into coins over the summertime. I don't think it's an internet thing.
I think this is a very, a very cool group of kids that came up with a hilarious game.

Speaker 3 The only way to defeat the coin is with a coin. Yeah.
This teacher needs to go up to the front of the class day two and be like, I'm going to flip a coin.

Speaker 1 Heads, you guys can stay living by the coin dying by the coin tails the coin's over yes and they have to respect the coin yeah because you can live by the coin and die by the coin yeah that's that's your only way out you have a 50 chance of getting out of this it's it's i love this they just live with the thrill every single day we're going to flip a coin for every decision we make yeah that's the way to live i might be a coin boy yeah This is also, is this also not the plot of Old Country for No Country for Old Man?

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's Javier Bardin.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Maybe they just watched that movie.
It's Javier Bardin or Too Face. Yeah, so yeah, I think we should become coin boys.

Speaker 1 I mean, start flipping coins for random things that we decide.

Speaker 1 Hank, you're in

Speaker 1 sure. Coins,

Speaker 1 we gotta get some coins. I never, I never have coins.

Speaker 3 It's uh, it's a flex to be walking down the hallway with like four quarters in your pocket, just jingling everywhere. That's how people used to roll around all the time.

Speaker 1 Yes, you're gonna play pool.

Speaker 1 It almost, yeah, it was the only thing better would be doing number

Speaker 3 69.

Speaker 1 There we go.

Speaker 1 I could have said it anyway. This episode, you never would have gotten it.

Speaker 1 You never would have gotten it.

Speaker 1 You never would have gotten it.

Speaker 1 21.

Speaker 1 I'll go 88.

Speaker 1 Memes, have you ever gotten this?

Speaker 1 Shit.

Speaker 1 Never. I don't think you can guess one because it, well, it starts at one.
I don't know if it can do one again. That's three.
Okay. I hope it goes one this time.
Shane, you want to guess? 41.

Speaker 1 Steve, you you want to guess?

Speaker 7 41 for Shane. 36.

Speaker 1 36 for Steve. Sound guy, you want to guess? Matt.
Matt.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 One through 100.

Speaker 1 72. He's a 70 kid.
This do I have to shave my head?

Speaker 1 22. Oh.
God damn it. Oh, so close, Billy.

Speaker 1 Fuck, man. So close, Billy.
If I had one,

Speaker 1 we'd be going to Waffle House. Yeah, we would.
I'd go. Great idea.
I would go. Love you guys.
I'm hungry right now. I'm hungry all the time.
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 Love you guys.

Speaker 7 Polar bears are huge pussies.

Speaker 1 They actually

Speaker 7 every time they meet grizzly bears in the wild, they like run away because grizzly bears are about that action. They scrap harder than polar bears.

Speaker 7 It's because their population densities are higher, so they see other grizzly bears and fight them more. Where does that happen?

Speaker 1 Wait, also,

Speaker 1 if being a pussy means that you're scared of grizzly bears, me too. But as a polar bear, I'm just saying.
As a polar bear, that's like not really. That's a high bar for pussy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but like polar bears, like it's like bigger, for example, big cat. Stronger.

Speaker 3 If Derwin James was in this room right now, I'd be afraid of him because he'd knock me out. Right.
But if Travis Kelsey was in the same room as Derwin James, he should not be scared of him. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Right.

Speaker 8 Should run him over.

Speaker 1 Right. Yeah.
He won't.

Speaker 3 Hopefully, he does.

Speaker 7 It'd actually be a great redemption arc if he like runs over Derwin James.

Speaker 1 It would be. Yeah.
It would be. But he won't.
He won't. He won't.

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