Lions Head Coach Dan Campbell To Start Grit Week 2023, Mt Rushmore Of Best Recurring Guests + Monday Reading

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On today's Pardon My Take, it is Grit Week 2023, our eighth Grit Week. We're starting in Buffalo.
We're moving Max and Memes from New York to Chicago. Old school Gr school grit week like the first one Rust Belt grit week and we have a great show for you we have Dan Campbell head coach of the Detroit Lions awesome interview Mr.
Grit he is Mr. Grit one of those interviews that we just came out of being like I could talk to that guy forever he.
He just pumps you up. Slight spoiler alert.
We might have made him cry. So that was a moment.
Football might have made him. Football might have made him cry.
We're going to do what could be the most contentious Mount Rushmore that we've ever done. Not just for us in this room.
For everyone. For a lot of people.
For the people we're talking about and for the AWL's voting on it, it is the mount rushmore of recurring guests on pardon my team i'm excited the meanest thing we've done yes uh so uh and then we're gonna talk uh football uh who's back the week and we have a monday reading great show to start off grit week there's making a sandwich and then there's crafting a sandwich and when i want something perfectly crafted i go straight to boar's head for over a century boar's head has been dedicated to crafting premium deli favorites every ingredient is carefully chosen every recipe made with a purpose their oven gold turkey smoke master ham and ever roast chicken are made from premium whole cuts hand trimmed and perfectly seasoned last weekend and perfectly seasoned. Last weekend, I made the ultimate sandwich,

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Today is Monday, July 31st. And more importantly, welcome to Grit Week presented by Coors Light.
It's Grit Week, boys. We're here.
That's the gritty version of Electric Avenue you just listened to. Yeah.
It comes but once a year. And we're in Buffalo, the grittiest city ever.
Yeah. That was a Hank forgot to tell Max.
That's Grit Week. That's Grit Week, Max.
We don't give each other directions on Grit Week. We just do the job.
We just know. Yeah, exactly.
We put our hard hat on and we fucking roll. Yeah.
I love Buffalo. I love wing nuts.
I saw some people complain they were in Buffalo again. We had to come back to Buffalo to see Ed and Alicia.
We have a great video with them. And we're also moving Max and memes literally from new york to chicago they have stuff on the rv uh it's a it's a throwback grit week uh rust belt how did how did wing nuts hit for you because i'm happy to announce that it hits the same i uh we opened up the new restaurant we had the first meal ever eaten at that restaurant it's not officially open for another 10 days or so yeah august 9th big day and the fryers on it's fantastic yeah oh no august 9th their fifth year anniversary fifth year anniversary yeah i think they're opening on august 10th yes uh the day after the big day the day after the big day so grit week we're here ready to go feeling good everyone feel good i'm fired up i took a shower you're so fired up you were complaining about how early we had to wake up tomorrow no no false that's all fact i took i took a shower got some nice shampoo soup and i got out of the shower i was like i'm ready to go i'm more worried because i'm so fired up i'm not gonna be able to sleep that's my concern oh okay interesting so fired up yeah and we have the finale of the billy football story arc billy you're here i have no idea where we're going going this week.
I said it twice. And we've also, I think, been talking about it for the last two months.
Yeah, but I still don't. You don't really listen here.
Where do you think we're going next? Rust belt. Oh, there we go.
What's in the rust belt? All the rust. Where do you think that we're stopping tomorrow? I think i think we're going we're going to training camp yeah but after that not really sure yes all right this is yeah this is the actual it's a microcosm of the billy football greater story arc just along for the ride yeah yeah here he is folks so we got a great show for you dan campbell coming up jake is uh was just finishing the n NV5 corn fairy tour so he will be joining us tomorrow we actually should call him should we call him yeah yeah see how we did just real quick congratulate him I want to I want to hear where he came up with the closing line it is the crow show it is the crow show let's see all right so we're gonna call Jake real quick let's let's get I mean I mean it's being recorded oh good point big guy stuff he probably knows this is right this is daniel cats from part of my day i don't know this might be the first time i didn't i didn't say anything hello yeah i didn't say anything what do you mean thank you i was talking to Oh, okay.
All right, Jake, we're recording part of my take right now. You are live on the show.
Give us real quick, because we were saying you're not here. How'd you do this weekend? I thought the entire team did a really good job.
I think for everyone's first golf broadcast, I was really happy with how it all went. It's a really fun sport to call, especially down the stretch.
The drama just building up those last 30 minutes, two playoff holes. I was really happy with how everything went.
Hey, Jay, PFT commenter from part of my Take Sports podcast, Barstool Sports. It really seemed like you and Kirk got into a nice little camaraderie at the end.
The tension kind of melted away. How would you say your relationship developed? Yeah, I mean, he's just not a nice person when the cameras are rolling.
But I don't think that's any earth-shattering news. Like, he would admit that, too.
That's just who he is, and I've accepted that. But I'm proud of myself for not letting him walk all over me, and I had to push back.
Yeah, I think he respected you because you – Yeah, that was a great back and forth. The tension was great.
Yeah. The whole thing was, was incredible.
Now, anything we wish we had back? Shot of a lifetime. What? Huh? Anything you wish you had back? Shot of a lifetime.
The guy lost it. I mean, he went, he got there in two.
Who are you talking about? What are you talking about? Patrick Fishburne got there in two. Yeah.
He hit a green in regulation? No. No, it was a part five.
The other guy laid up. How close was he? I think like 20 feet, 15 feet.
Oh, wow. That's a shot of a lifetime.
Hey, Jake, PFT Comptor, part of my Take Sports podcast.

Is that the only time you think that guy has ever reached a par five and two?

No.

Did he win?

Wait, did he win?

He did not win.

The other guy sunk a birdie putt.

That's bad when you lose with a shot of a lifetime in your round. Yeah.

No, I thought that was the only one.

That was the only one, Jake, where I was like, shot of a lifetime.

It was tough when he lost that playoff.

I don't know. with a shot of a lifetime in your round.
No, I thought that was the only one. That was the only one, Jake, where I was like, shot of a lifetime.
It was tough when he lost that playoff. I think, yeah, but I think I nailed his eagle putt to tie it.
Oh, after he reached the green and went under regulation. Oh, he'd already done that before.
It was actually the hole before. Wait, he had hit an eagle on this hole, and then you gave him a shot of a lifetime? Yeah, because the other guy was laying up.
It seemed like it was over at that point. Jake, we honestly think you did a very good job.
You did a great job, Jake. You did a great job.
I have one last question. Billy has the mic solo tonight for Mount Rushmore.
Mount Rushmore of recurring guests. How much do you trust Billy, and have you guys discuss what your picks will be? I sent him 12 guys just off the top.
Oh, all guys? Oh, wow. 12 recurring guests that I think could be in the running.
I didn't give any rankings. So Billy's got the ball tonight.
I hope he can deliver, and we'll see. I hope he can give you a shot of a lifetime.
Guys is gender neutral. God, I really wasn't thinking much about it.
Now I'm going to. Oh, yeah.
No, you should. It was, yeah.
You did a great job, Jake. Jake, here was my test, was if we would give a regular announcer shit for that, and we would.
So it's only fair. But you were great otherwise.
So it's not. Yeah.
I can't be perfect. I definitely.
Right. It didn't ruin the rest of the broadcast, but that was a moment where the minute it happened, I was like,

I'm going to have to give him shit about this.

Yeah.

You know,

I think I was ready for the,

for the biggest,

the biggest moment was the crow show.

I thought I nailed that.

You did.

You did.

Yeah.

Like if I,

if I could go 90%,

I'll take it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right.

Well,

we'll see you tomorrow, Jake safe flight. And we're going to, we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna find a way to get wing nuts again okay oh amazing okay so much i'll see you guys smile okay all right see you jake love you love you oh thank you your shot of lifetime was tough i mean you just ruined his night maybe a little uh it it might have the shot of life.
We don't know from his perspective. He did a great job.
He was fantastic. Again, I think that that's actually a step.
We can't just go kid gloves. If Tony Romo had said that, if Jim Nance had said it.
If they're all the lifetime in a game that they lose. Right.
If Jim Nance said it have we would have had fun with it doesn't mean jim nance is a bad announcer he's a good go it's a very good shot it was very good shot it was a shot shot of his last 10 minutes yeah exactly and actually the putt that the other guy made was a bigger shot on that maybe more impressive yeah but either way great great job by the whole broadcast crew i I thought the Kirk-Jake tension was hilarious. Riggs, Frankie, Dan, Francis, Trent, everyone behind the scenes.
So, yeah, good job. That's where Jake is.
All right. What else are we going to talk about before we get into the rest of Grit Week talk? Robert and Jim.
Or no, excuse me, not Robert. Jonathan Taylor.
Jonathan. Jonathan Taylor.
you're r.i.p. r.i.p.
robert trailer robert trailer tractor trailer yeah um jim or say has been on one yeah for the last 48 hours and so him and jonathan taylor are uh they're going at it started with beef over running backs not being paid well jonathan taylor's up next to get paid and apparently jim ursay had a one-on-one meeting with him on saturday and uh ursay left the meeting saying if i die tonight and jonathan taylor is out of the league no one's going to miss us the league goes on we know that the national football league rolls on fast forward 24 hours jonathan taylor's not showing up to camp he's complaining of back pain the colts say that's a pre-existing injury has nothing to do with football we're thinking about now putting you on the non-football injury list and this is after jonathan taylor has requested a trade so they're playing a little game of chicken they wouldn't have to pay him they would not have to pay him this year, and he would not complete his rookie contract if they put him on this non-football injury because he got hurt back in training in Arizona solo. Yeah, yeah.
So basically, he had this meeting with Jim Irsay. Irsay pretty much told him, no one cares about you.
Let's focus on you showing up to work this year and just remember the league's bigger than you jim mersey is not entirely wrong that that's how kind of the league looks at all their players where everybody's replaceable except for maybe two or three guys in the entire league yeah um so he's not entirely wrong about that maybe a little bit too honest it was it was one of those quotes that probably didn't need to be said but it's factual yeah like Like his point is the NFL is bigger than everyone. There is no one person himself included, Jim Mercer included, that could slow down what this thing does.
It's just a very like nihilistic, you know, kind of like, damn, this whole world's going to. That's the perspective you get after doing like 30 years of hard psychedelic drugs yeah aaron rogers would listen to mr ursa and be like yeah no he's right isn't that isn't that a uh uh trill withers or uh tweet that she's gonna spend the whole rest of her life not thinking about me or something like that like yeah like that's kind of what it is yeah like oh damn yeah you know it's true so so taylor demanded a trade afterwards and then the colts now have him on a technicality basically saying you better actually play for us we're not going to trade you balls in your court right now he will play yes i think he will come and play uh it does suck because it's i mean just goes back to the same conversation we had like four times sucks for running backs yep and it sucks especially if you get hurt uh outside of the football facility and they can pull this technicality on you.
Jim Irsay, though, the best part was because he had that quote, people were just retweeting old Jim Irsay tweets. And he's got some bangers.
2011 was just Jim Irsay just shooting from the hip. I think he said, like, Vice President Joe Biden is 6'7", foot seven tallest vice president ever yeah that's his version of the terry rosier tweet the uh obama oh here we go yeah yeah i i joe biden tall as hell yeah he should have hooped instead trying to kill people i screenshotted a couple uh these are all from 2011 2012 he said there ain't much to country live in sweat piss jizz and blood sweet home alabama play that dead band song it's a warrants evan lyric yep yep i'm a sweet and tender hooligan time is short there's some a lot of lyrics mixed in time is short and the days are sweet and passion rules the arrow that flies the weed one there's purple juice purple berries purple drink these are all different things in miami playing angry birds in hotel room one of them suckers hopped out of my

phone and bit my dog howard right in the ass too much caffeine yeah that's just psychedelic yeah

that was not a warren zivon quote no that one wasn't uh also ursa at the start of training

camp today do you see him on the golf cart he was driving out of the practice field and there's this

guy that's in the stands that yells at him jim i never win one of your twitter giveaways and so

Thank you. Do you see him on the golf cart? He was driving out on the practice field, and there's this guy that's in the stands that yells at him,

Jim, I never win one of your Twitter giveaways.

And so Ursa, in an all-time power move, he's got an envelope with him,

and he reaches out from the golf cart to a security guard that's there.

He's like, here, I can't stop the cart, but you give this to him.

Hands the guy an envelope, walks up to the dude in the stands,

hands him that envelope, and the guy looks at him, he's like, like oh my god jim ursa just gave me two thousand dollars and then he starts he starts going through he's like and he autographed it what a fucking flex jim ursa autographs money i mean if it's a hundred dollar bill and it's jim ursa it's you could say that's game game worn yes for him oh yeah game used merchandise yes and so he does an autograph and he signs it right on ben franklin's face hands it to the guy i would if i were if i were a billionaire like jim mercy i would do that all the time yeah i'd just be handing people racks you do that one once every day you give away two thousand dollars just a rack and then everyone's like wow this guy's basically a philanthropist just make make someone's day. $2,000 is nothing to Jim Irsay.

It's everything to someone else.

Yeah.

My buddy's a caddy down in Florida, and whenever Jim Irsay goes to the course, he has like three racks for everybody and just hands them out.

Yeah, that's what I do.

I would tip double the bill on every big meal.

I'd tip caddies, everything.

It's just awesome. Tip everybody.
Everyone you come across. Why not? Here's a tip.
Here's a tip. Here's a tip.
Here's a tip. Be like that scene in Goodfellas where they're walking in the back of the Cope of Cabana.
Just ripping shit off for people. He carries a duffel bag in the golf cart that's just filled with 3K increments.
He loves his duffel bags of cash. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, a duffel bag.
3K is not that much. No, no, no.
But he has, like, he has. You're not good with cash.
No, he has, like, 100K. Oh, okay.
All right. 3K.
Oh, in 3K. Oh, it's okay.
I was like, that's a lot of empty space if it's just 3K in a duffel bag. He's handing out 3K to everybody.
Cart girls, patties. We should start doing that.
Just duffel bags filled with ones. We should just.
Are filled with Zimbabwewe currency we should just give away counterfeit money yeah i mean what do you go like is it a crime to give away counterfeit money if we don't spend it yes definitely we don't try to spend it it's definitely a felony yeah what if it's very clearly counterfeit money you're just now you're just talking about like pieces of paper yeah no we give away money that you get the reaction where the person's like holy shit you just gave a thousand bucks. And then it's just Hank's face on the bill.
Yeah, I like that. Like that would be, you have the rap, you know, that says like a thousand dollars.
And then we just hand it to him and you get, you just got to move away quick enough before they realize it's fake. I think that could play.
Yeah. Because the moment lasts forever for you.
Yeah. You have that moment.
And we also we also film all of it yeah and then we cut the video before they realize it's not benjamin franklin it's benjamin hanklin now this sounds like uh we're just doing a full send sketch i kind of like oh how about this we put poop on the money yeah and then we leave it on the ground and people find the poop money dollar yeah poop dollar my friend once in college it was fucking hilarious he really thought he got a five dollar bill yeah it's awesome um all right yeah so yeah jonathan taylor jim are saying weird weird times uh we also have aaron rogers standing up for nathaniel hackett uh telling sean payton to keep my coach's name out of your mouth uh i for one stand with aaron rogers here who would ever make fun of nathaniel hackett not us or aaron rogers not not certainly not us anything with with nathaniel hackett nope um really nice guy and aaron rogers even nicer guy and uh his son thinks blake bortles has a huge dick yeah great guy fact good good offspring they um they talked to sean payton again okay sean payton kind of walked back his previous comment or at. Like, I was a little bit out of line.
I probably shouldn't have said that. He didn't really say that anything that he said was wrong, because it wasn't.
Like, he was telling the truth. He was just a little bit too honest.
Correct. And it was funny because there was a lot of people out there that saw Sean Payton's comments and immediately said, like, he's playing 14-dimensional chess by giving this on-the-record interview.
No, sometimes Sean Payton just is too honest with people. Yeah.
And it's kind of a dick. That's kind of who he is.
He's a great football coach, but he wasn't trying to, like, maneuver chess pieces around, take attention off Russell Wilson, put it on him. He wasn't doing the Phil Jackson thing.
He just has been out of the league for a couple years. He was an analyst yeah he said he had his fox hat on yeah no it's here's a little fun fact about any football coach uh they do think they're the smartest guy in the room and if you ask for their opinion on something they will sometimes give it to you and it will be harsh yeah that's just a fact yeah like that's sean if you're just like hey sean payton what do you think nathaniel hack did last year he could not answer it or if he's feeling in some kind of mood he could answer it the way he did and just burn the whole house down and also if aaron rogers loves him so much how come he didn't decide to go to denver last year well aaron rogers is a loyal guy to the jets okay now yeah now okay uh he did i now again some people make fun of Aaron Rodgers.
Those people are losers. They're jealous.
Aaron Rodgers did have an answer that some people might say is him just being very cute. He said Christopher Nolan, his favorite Christopher Nolan movie is The Prestige.
So what do you think about that, Hank? Prestige rocks. Was it your favorite Christopher Nolan movie? It's up there.
Really? Oh, yeah.. Did you see it in one of the appropriate IMAXs? No.
Prestige is one of the best movies of all time. But that does feel like a No.
Like I'm not going to say Batman. I'm not going to say Inception.
Prestige is a phenomenal Okay. So alright.
It's a great answer by Aaron Rodgers. I agree with Hank.
Prestige is a great movie. Then we all agree with Aaron Rodgers.
I haven't seen the Prestige yet, but I will see it. Now that Aaron Rodgers has vouched for it, what's it about? Anything he'll say.
I suck the vaccine out of my body. It's like rival magician.
Christian Bale, Hugh Jackman are rival magicians. Great twist.
Great turns. Great female cast.
You guys are disrespecting this movie. I've never seen it.
How can I disrespect

a movie I haven't seen?

He's not being coy.

That's a fair take.

But I didn't know it.

If you polled everyone what their favorite Christopher Nolan movie is,

wouldn't you say the most popular response would not be The Prestige?

No, but it doesn't mean

it's the wrong answer.

It's about two rival magicians.

I didn't know the movie. Now I'll watch it.
If it's a good answer, it's a good answer. I've never seen it.
Who produced that? Christopher Nolan? Yeah, I thought it was Peter Chernin. Did he? No, I don't think so.
No, that was the other one? He did a Christopher Nolan movie? No, maybe that was The Greatest Showman I'm thinking of. Yeah.
That. Yeah, yeah.
Great. Oh, that's a great movie.
That movie.

All right, so I got to watch the prestige.

Prestige is, yeah, if you haven't watched it, you should.

I will.

Christian Bale, Hugh Jackman.

Jessica Biel, right?

Yeah.

Okay.

So, yeah, that was Camp Talk.

What other Camp Talk do we have?

C.P. Eliot, Patriots.

Yeah, him and Mac Jones weirdly sitting on the same side of the booth.

What's wrong with that?

What do you mean?

What's wrong with that?

It's the most intimate way to eat.

Bailey Zappi, Ezekiel Elliott.

I'm in.

Did you see that picture?

I did.

You didn't think it was weird?

Yes, you did.

Okay, thank you.

I rest my case.

That's all I needed to see here.

That was weird.

No, they were probably in like a big group.

They weren't.

It wasn't just them two. Did you see the picture? No, I didn't see it.
I'm going to look it up right now. I mean, it wasn't just them.
There absolutely could be more context. But as I saw the picture, I was like, this is a weird look.
If there's two dudes sitting on the same side of a booth with no one on the other side. Obviously, there's people on the other side.
Where were they? What is this? A magician trip? I don't know. He showed up to camp and he stayed he's still there okay and dalvin cook's going to jets camp everyone's chanting his name so that'd be a problem that would be a problem dream team you see the picture i'm looking it up right now yeah let me know okay i got it they look so happy uh yeah for a second I thought that was Ezekiel Elliott in the foreground.
Yeah, but that was a different table. Yeah.

This. it they look so happy uh yeah for a second i thought that was ezekiel elliott in the foreground yeah that was a different table yeah um this is this is really strange it looks like it looks like they're driving a car they're both both faced directly forward yeah no one's on the other side i don't see anybody on the other side no but that is but that has nothing to do with it no context irrelevant okay there's.
Okay. There's no context.
Context is irrelevant. Yeah, I agree.
Weird picture. Context irrelevant.
The context you're creating is irrelevant. I mean, I saw a picture.
If you see the picture, you're like, that's kind of weird. I'm sure there is more context.
Yeah, Billy. The weirdest part is that no one's sitting across from them.
Correct. Yes.
Thank you, Billy. You're right, Billy.
On the same side, nobody else there. Yep.
Did you get concussed? I feel like you might be. That was the entire conversation.
That was what I was saying. I was looking at the photo.
Also kind of sus that they're using utensils. Just in general? Just in general, because Mac Hollins from the Falcons had, I think, the quote of training camp so far.
He said, I don't like soft people. I don't even like people who eat with utensils.
Eat with your hands. That's what they're there for.
Nice. Yeah, I like it.
I might be done with utensils. Travis Kelsey got in a fight? Yep.
Billy's gotten the dog out of him? That was my who's back. Oh, sorry.
Shit. He might be soft.
I love training camp fights. You think he's soft for getting into a fight? Yeah.
For apologizing. No, he did apologize.
No, it was kind of soft getting into it because he got hit once just like a little bit after the play and he got pissed off. Do you think that you talking shit to his face is like in the back of his head.
And so he's going to secure. He's going to get some,

some stupid penalties this year.

Shout out Cochran.

Yeah,

he might,

he might.

Yeah.

Okay.

Also, we should say Shohei Otani.

We flirted with maybe being haters when we record on Thursday,

when he had a complete game,

one hitter in the first game and we're like,

Oh,

he went over five and then he hit two home runs in the second game.

And then he also,

I think he might be good. I think he hit three home runs.
It was so funny. In three consecutive at bat.
Yeah, it was. He won the player of the game for both games in the doubleheader.
And for different positions. And he's not being traded, apparently.
Yeah. Sticking around.
It looks like the Angels might be all in. Cubs might be buying.
They beat up on some bad teams. They're buying.
Walk-off robbery was one of the greatest plays I've ever seen. Awesome.
They were up one, bottom of the ninth, man on first, guy had a long fly ball to center field, and he robbed them of a home run. Yeah, robbed it.
So it would have been a walk-off home run, robbed them, walked off robbery. Hand in, like, the grass.
Yeah. Yeah, it was electric.
It was electric. Yeah, baseball's heating up.
The boys of summer. Scherzer dealt.
Scherzer dealt. Ranger.
What was your favorite Max Scherzer Mets moment? I think it was when his velocity fell off a cliff and he got killed by the, was it the Padres last year? I think it's like every first inning where he gives up two home runs. Oh, yeah.
Memes, you want to give us your final thoughts on Max Scherzer?

Max Scherzer, if I remember, was also like the first sign

that Uncle Stevie's going to be different.

Yeah.

I was at the Padres playoff game last year.

I was watching him warm up.

I was sitting right there.

I was like, oh, I could probably hit off him right now.

And he went on to get licked, and it was brutal. He got licked.
He got licked hard. He got licked.
He got licked. It was so bad.
Yeah, that was bad. But that was the big signing right after Steve Cohen bought the team where you're like, this is different.
We're the Yankees now. Yeah, we were all in.
Yeah. Damn.
Damn. 100 games.
You got Acuna's brother, though. though yeah i don't know how that's gonna work yeah always get the younger brother um always work out there was there was uh some drama at the rams camp yeah sony michelle reported to work for one day and was like fuck this i actually hate playing football so i'm retired he's like i forgot how hard football was yeah which is very relatable to do to show up to your first day and be like no not for me this year yeah i'm just gonna quit eddie goldman did that again for like the fifth time with the falcons yeah he was just like yeah i think i'm done i love the rams training camp shirts too the ones that have like the the massive block of text on the back they say i wrote it down actually it says uh mentally and physically tough players who play smart and love to compete that's all that's their slogan for training camp yeah yeah yeah sean sean mcveigh hit a thesaurus bro yeah uh speaking of by the the falcons arthur smith like the hottest guy in the world yeah oh fucking mustache is stud.
He's a stud. Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't even remember what we said about his chin, but it was wrong.

I'm not looking at his chin anymore.

I'm looking at those lips, baby.

That flavor.

I want to just smooch him.

Yep.

Yeah.

I mean, he might have a problem this year with his players wanting to kiss him too much.

So someone in this room might have sent him a meme of Vito.

What's his name?

Last name is Sopranos.

Corleone.

No.

The fat guy in Johnny Cakes. Oh, yeah.
Someone might have sent him there. Might have been me.
But I said, this could be us. He looks really, really good.
Yeah, he's got the stache. I'm fat Vito.
But yeah, I mean, there's just the clips that come out of every camp. I just get so excited.
That dude from the Giants had the interception of training camp. One-handed.
He went Odell on an interception across the middle. Yes.
So immediately I'm like, okay, the Giants' defense is for real. Yes.
Everybody out there because of that one play. Football's back.
Football is back. Big time.
It's a great week. Football is back.
Kelly Greens? You want to say something about them? I mean, the Kelly Greens are so good. They are electric.
There's not a person on the planet that can look at those jerseys. They're so...
The Oilers, obviously the Titans, controversy aside, but the Oilers... They couldn't even announce them right.
What, a teaser? They got leaked. Oh, it did get leaked.
Get your shit together, Eagles. They were coming back.
The Oilers and the Kelly Green Eagles jerseys. Fuck throwbacksbacks those should be the jerseys yeah when it's the eagles and you you see them wearing what is it max the their midnight green midnight green which is such a preposterous name for a color like midnight green there's no that's not a thing is midnight green it's just it's dark green it's forest green but 11 p.m green's my favorite they they look so much worse than the Kelly greens.
Yes. Kelly greens should always have been their jerseys.
They're awesome. And even the Seahawks.
The Seahawks throwbacks should just be their jerseys. I love the Buccaneers throwbacks, too.
Yeah. I know that we're now into this because they changed the helmet rule, so all these teams can now wear their old jerseys.
But there are definitively some of these old jerseys

are just far superior than the current ones.

Just go to them full time.

Yeah, the Kelly Greens are definitely one of them.

They should just do a throwback year

where everyone has to wear their throwbacks every game.

I like that a lot.

Also, you're allowed to rough the passer again for a year.

That would be fun.

And the running back matters.

Every running back gets paid for one year as if it was 1992.

Yeah, bell cows. Yeah, we're in for in for it okay let's do who's back then we have our interview with Dan Campbell the grittiest coach out there and then we're going to do the Mount Rushmore that might break up our relationship with some people on this podcast ever had one of those days when it's just too cold to keep working nah neither has Ari has Ariat.
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And weather whatever in Ariat Work Gear. Okay, who's back in the week, Hank? Who's back in the week is Aliens.
Okay. Again? We got to zoom in on Billy's face on that.
Billy just gave an all-time high guy. Like, yeah.
Dude. Fucking Aliens.
They had like a congressional hearing last week or something and they basically just declassified that aliens are confirmed a thing so what is this what what what thing were they trying to cover up for hunter biden i don't know the guy what was the what was the did hunter biden did joe biden fall or did hunter biden

have something on his laptop released to have the alien uh unclassified they get a different

shell company the whistleblower the whistleblower just said what he said to the press in a

congressional hearing so if he lied he technically oh they made the guy who was spouting off be like

yo show up yeah let's talk to you for real yeah Yeah. So there was alien bodies recovered from crashes.
Different types of non-human intelligence was found. But it's the same dude.
And either this guy's a quack or he's covering something else up. I've got two theories on this.
One, what's going on with Obama's chef.

Right, Billy?

Right, Billy?

How do you guys bait this stuff?

Because you know what's going on in your brain right now.

I try to hold it back.

This is a sports podcast.

So my real theory behind this, I think I'm right, by the way, about the aliens.

I think that they're saying that they have alien spacecraft and alien bodies so that China is over there across the Pacific. And they're like yo what the fuck the u.s has an alien spacecraft advanced technology we and we don't and then china is afraid of us because they think that we've got all this shit that they don't have china doesn't even have nuclear subs is that true they're lacking i'd suppose losers so it's like like a neighbor without fucking pegs on their huff yeah come on you don't even can't even get guys on the back of this thing yeah they spent their whole budget on on putting the nine dash line in the barbie movie yeah they can't even they can't even get yeah exactly time big time lacking all right so uh do we believe this guy i do billy he testified billy no one ever lies under never it never never happened do you think aliens have big dicks that would bum me out i actually have no dicks yeah i think like okay that would be awesome yeah yeah it would suck if aliens were like like short little green guys but just huge hogs it's like well fuck no they come down totally asexual be like sex is overrated we're too intelligent for sex that's so they'd be like top g like yeah the aliens are aliens are incels well i don't even think about sex hot women fuck that just me and my boys i like thinking that aliens are real because then it really is like there's no reason to do anything because like within five years like the aliens are gonna just come up and fuck us all yeah i mean hank's just going on vacation that was that was a vacation plea i know it's like but what's gonna get to the end of the summer and just be like put aliens guys what what's the point of even working dude i think the aliens are from earth bro oh really i think they're from the bottom of the ocean kong kong movie no no yeah or aliens versus predator no i'm just saying like the like the earth is really large and we haven't really like investigated most of the oceans and most you should try yeah you should get on a sub i will wait so hank you are you are now saying what's the point of doing anything because aliens are gonna kill us all this is is of all of your vacation this is a good one no it's more like this one it's more like you know like i would have called you a pussy for global warming but aliens that's cool yeah like starting a family it's like i don't want to i don't want to have kids like aliens are going to come and kill them all yeah i don't like i'm just gonna i'm just gonna keep doing my thing yeah i like that hank okay no is that what you tell chicks too is like no sorry you can't we can't do this there might be aliens why would you pay taxes if aliens are going to kill us all well i don't want to be in jail when the aliens kill us all i don't know when they're going to come in five years like it could be five years could be five days so stop paying your taxes but it could be five years you would could be five days.
So stop paying your taxes. But it could be five years.
You would feel like a real idiot, though, if you paid your taxes in the next day. Boom, aliens.
Yeah. All I'm saying is if aliens...
I just want to be in jail. I'm not trying to be in jail.
The aliens, if they come before football season starts, are really... That's fucked up.
Yeah. That's messed up.
Just let us get through the next year. What if they're really fast and they play football? That would rock.
That would be sick. Al Davis would come back from the dead, draft and flip it overall.
in draft? What if they're really fast and they play football that would rock that would be sick

al davis would come back from the dead draft and put an alien draft what if what if they all became

running back so you guys don't believe this guy at all um sure i don't really know i don't we kind

of forgot about the first time that he came out with a whistleblower ship because like an hour

later taylor swift broke up with her boyfriend so everybody just talked about that instead i really

think that we're just trying to make china spend money on investigating their own aliens that don't exist yeah i'm also a big believer in just uh there's a lot of shit that could bum you out or get you to the point where you're like what's the point of life i just try to ignore all of that just keep on keep on trucking keep on moving forward because because you really could find anything in the news to to essentially put you to a screeching halt and be like why should i do this why should i do that do you guys think that aliens have music yeah we sent them that didn't we send them we sent out like chuck berry i think the ramones yeah have some beethoven or some shit yeah but like do they have their own music their own alien music they come to earth with jams that would be sick that would be sick too yeah you can't you can't let that shit get you down Hank doesn't get me down no but you're like we're all gonna die in five years that's pretty depressing that's exciting oh it up okay yeah live every day like it's your last live boss yeah yeah yeah okay pft uh my who's back is john Mechie. Who? Receiver from University of Alabama.
He got drafted in the second round by the Texans last year. He got leukemia.
Missed all of last year. He's back in training camp.
He looks awesome. I've always loved Mechie.
I thought that he was, when he was at Alabama, I was like, this dude should actually be drafted in the first round. He has the crispest routes.
It's so fun to watch this dude play I'm just saying I think I think the Texans on offense this year are going to be way better than we think I like Stroud I'm a Stroud boy Brandon Cook's back I don't know it's a good question is he on the Texans sure sure Cowboys Cowboys Shane there there we go that's a great one well no I think, I think the Texans offense, I like CJ Stroud. You either have to put yourself going into training camp, going to the regular season.
Are you a Bryce Young fan? Are you a CJ Stroud fan? Right. I think I'm a Stroud boy.
Okay. Yeah, but Mechie looks awesome.
I'm pumped for Mechie. I'm excited that he's back.
Yeah, that is huge. It's also just the perfect that to watch highlights of guys at camp and be like oh my god he's gonna be incredible I saw that video of Calvin Ridley after uh Zay Jones ran around Calvin Ridley is like looks like he's 20 times faster uh so yeah I will get got by a lot of these videos I'm getting got every day yeah every single day every day I saw Justin Fields throw one from like 50 into a net then jordan love missed like a 10 yard pass over the middle and i was like saw deshaun watson hit a hit a net in stride five yards you see zach wilson's no look no no toss i did not look we're talking about starters i know but it was pretty crisp uh okay my who's back i have two one is actually justin fields he has been he's upgraded no longer a vegan now a pescatarian so i feel like we're making progress billy yeah this is good progress get some fish protein yeah some fish oils that also is just i don't think there's ever been anyone who's gone vegan to pescatarian and stopped at pescatarian that means you just yeah you miss meat you miss you're coming back.
He's probably eating like fried fish too. Yeah, you're taking your time.
Because he wants some nuggets. He wants to upgrade.
Yeah. He'll be back.
He'll be back. My other who's back is paintball because we're going to play some paintball on Grit Week, but we need the AWL's help.
So we were looking. Turns out paintball courses are tracks.
Is it tracks? Paintball tracks? Arenas. Arenas.
Battlefields. Paintball courses seem to be only open on the weekends.
We need one during the weekday. So if you know someone who owns a paintball course and wants to open it for us, we will give them some nice shout outs in the video.
And we're looking for a paintball course. Of course,

right within.

Yeah.

And of course,

like within,

I would say 45 minutes of Cleveland would be,

would be perfect.

That allows fully automatic.

That allows fully automatic preference.

Yeah.

We're going to make a paintball video.

That's going to fucking be awesome.

Revolutionary paintball facility.

Yeah.

Revolutionary war.

Oh,

just like one shot at a time.

I would just know one shot every 10 minutes. I'd awesome fully automatic powdered wigs yeah against each other just face each other yeah be a gentleman about it but yes if you have a paintball course know someone who has one uh around cleveland hit us up.
Hit up Jake's email.

What is it?

PMT intern at gmail.com.

BarstoolSports.com.

PMT intern at BarstoolSports.com.

Are you sure?

Just go BillyFootball at BarstoolSports.com.

I'll deal with it.

Okay, there we go.

BillyFootball at BarstoolSports.com.

Billy Swan Song.

Love it.

I'm going to hit Jake with a shot of a lifetime.

I was going to say, let's not tell Jake, but he listens to the show yeah sorry jake he's a good boy love you like billy who billy the other day we were we were talking about the show uh an episode he wasn't on and he's like can someone fill me in and hank was just like if only there was a way to find out oh you're talking about megacorp i get he's like what you guys talking about? It was like a day after. Yeah, but you could listen.
Then I get FOMO. It hurts.
Okay. So, yeah.
It's your choice. I know.
Okay. Megacorp, you would have liked Megacorp.
What is Megacorp? Exactly. If you have to ask, you're not Mega not Mega.
Yeah. You're not Mega.
It's going to be so awesome when we beat you in a war game and we steal valor from you. What? You really have the most to lose in this paintball contest.
Yeah. I'm going to be using Jake as a human shield.
It's going to be like a hostage situation, but more fun. the news jonathan taylor just tweeted uh seven minutes ago that one he never had back pain two he never reported back pain not sure who quote unquote sources are but find new ones huh interesting so yeah this is emoji this is just a game of leveraged chicken right now yeah never had back pain.
No, never had back pain. Never reported back pain.
Back's never been blown out. Needs a backyotomy.
Okay, Billy, which are who's back? Other than not being mega. Jack Cochran's the dude who pissed off Travis Kelsey.
So shout out that guy for exposing Travis Kelsey for being a pussy. Oh, no, he's a pussy.
Okay. We're doubling down.
Burn every bridge right before you leave. Yeah, exactly.
Billy, you should have a dossier for the last show that you record, and you should just let all the takes that were too hot. Oh, we're Billy Festo.
Yeah. I'll let him loose.
You better.

My other who's back is

Zach Wilson

doing a no look.

Aaron Rodgers.

Damn.

Billy, I'm going to miss you.

What's wrong with his brain?

I had a bunch, but then we just

ripped them off.

His face swelled up a lot today. Yeah today yeah dude a lot of benadryl uh the you did get to eat the wings before everyone yeah yeah it was cool oh by the way i fucked up i fucked up i i've realized that posting a picture of chicken wings that you just ate online is along the same lines of posting a picture of a steak that you oh yeah paid yourself people because they will find all the top meat in there yeah so next time i do this

i'm the wings are gonna look like they got run over by a lawnmower going 30 miles an hour i'm

gonna post the worst fucking wing eating picture of all time yeah just to piss off wing twitter

yes remember the guy who ran the fastest 40 yard dash of all time john ross he gave him an island

right?

No,

he ran Nike.

He's not an Adidas.

I still believed in him.

You know,

Thank you. the guy who ran the fastest 40-yard dash of all time? John Ross.
They gave him an island, right? No, he didn't get it because he ran Nike. He's not an Adidas.
I still believed in him. I know that was stupid, but man, out of Washington.
Yeah. Yeah.
He was so fast. Too fast for football.
Anyone who does something that elite, I will always be like, where's John Ross these days? He could probably still play. Take the top off the defense.
Yeah. Have him just run fucking deep.
He was with the Bengals the Bengals then he was the Giants and then he was at the Chiefs camp and uh he retired okay too fast for football but you know how they're talking about those GPS uh trackers that said that Adam Thielen was the fastest guy yeah yeah so I actually think that like this guy wasn't that fast when you made it like the average speed. He was just super fast, straight line.
Yeah. If you look at all the routes he was running, like he was a gadget guy.
They just made him run really fast and straight line. And that was the only thing you do.
Also, it's pretty easy. Also, a very big part of receiving that people kind of overlook sometimes is being able to catch the ball.
Also stopping. Yes catching is very important fast guys do have to catch i actually want to know the guy that goes from fast to dead stop the fastest yeah who's the fastest guy at stopping that's you think stopping is fucking he is he is very very fast yeah when he comes back for a ball.
Fuck. Yeah.
Deceleration.

Pause.

I saw Odell Beckham do a fake back shoulder catch.

That was sick.

Yeah.

The ball was in midair and he hesied backwards.

The other cornerback bit on it.

And then Odell kept running,

made the catch.

That's I see that.

I see a play like that.

I'm like Raven Super Bowl.

Yes.

I have the Ravens for the Super Bowl. I've bought into the hype.
It won't burn me at all. Okay.
Should we get to our interview? Dan Campbell? Let's do it. Coach will get you to run through a brick wall.
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It is head coach of the Detroit Lions, Dan Campbell. And we do this to start every Grit Week.
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That's code 20GRIT. So first question, the Bic question, what does grit mean to you? Grit is, I think it's when you have the ability to overcome adversity in any situation.
You know, the ability to push through it mentally, physically, to overcome. And I think that's what grit is in a nutshell.
That's a good answer. Yeah, that was your big message to the team last year i remember at the the first episode of hard knocks you walked out there in giant grit mural i think i said it a little different but yes i did yeah yeah yeah you dropped a couple fucks in there you could say that you could say fuck shit fuck god damn well i i i told myself as of this morning i wasn't gonna cuss anymore oh this morning yes is that something you tell yourself every morning yes i do yeah fuck that today's the day that was your message at the start hard knocks i remember you walking out and i i immediately wanted to run through my tv because i was like yeah okay i'm pumped up right now is that the message this year it always will be i mean that's what that's what this was built off of two years ago man i wanted to – that was going to be part of our identity as grit, man.
We're built off of that, man, the ability. And that's kind of where the – you know, it doesn't matter where we have to go to play, who we're playing, what the circumstances are, the conditions.
It doesn't matter, man. There's no excuses.
Let's line up and play. Yeah, I think you said you'll beat anybody's ass, including somebody that has one butt cheek and three toes.
That seems like a little bit of an unfair fight. One ass cheek and three toes.
Yeah, yeah. Wait, don't swear.
And it was one ass cheek, three toes, and I will beat your ass. It wasn't that I'm going to beat the ass of somebody with one ass cheek and three toes.
What I meant was I have one ass cheek and three toes, and you got everything, and I will still beat your ass. You got both beat their ass cheeks.
That's what I meant by that ass that's what i meant by that this guy's coming here with two cheeks i'm glad i could clear that up so so year three uh year one obviously you know not the best record year two big step forward miss the playoffs week week 18 year three what have you learned in the last two years that you're like this is this is what's going to make me the best head coach for this football team yeah I think man there's always those when you get in those game situations over a two-year period man and uh um you know and it's just I think in game flow understanding where you're at uh the best approach I mean because here sometimes what happens is um i mean you you you kind of have the game here's i'll give you a i'll give you example you have you feel like you kind of have the game um it in your hands and and um man if you go about if you'll just back off a little bit there's a real good chance your probability of winning goes way up um but to do that that means you're backing off the right you know you're pulling back on the reins a little bit and that's hard you know um because there's always you do that then you back off and all of a sudden a few things happen uh they give up you get a shot play there's a turnover whatever and now you got no okay we're not backing off the reins anymore. We've got to go, guys.
Then to get them to go again, that's not always the easiest thing. And I think just figuring out what that flow is, and I think that's us as a team, but myself too, got much better, particularly the late half of that season last year was, man, when we got in the fourth quarter, the ability to control the game and finish games out I think was real big.
that that's something i feel like i've learned over a three-year period and gotten better at yeah with the game come to you a little bit yes yeah absolutely more guys on the sidelines were holding their fours up at the start of the fourth quarter i think that had a pretty big does that have any impact i was really good at that i tell you what we did that all the time in high school and i don't know if i ever did that in the pros but uh we did in college too we did the old four i don't know i don't know if i've seen anybody on our sideline do that one it's a reminder it's four guys in my experience personally it's usually the worst players that are the first ones to do that was me i was up on the field running off out there just shows they're aware yeah exactly know the situation. Nothing else to pay attention to but the clock at that point.
Yeah. So this year, you're kind of coming into it with a little bit of a different setup for your team.
Last year, you could easily motivate guys, or not easily, but you could say your motivation is nobody believes in you. Right? Like, this is, your back's against the wall.
This year, the Lions have expectations. Like, you guys have a great roster.
You put together a great second half of your season, as you said last year. So people are expecting big things out of you.
Do you motivate the same way? Or did you have to make some adjustments in this offseason? No, I still think it's very much the same just in this regard. I understand what's out there.
And, look, we've got expectations for ourselves. We do.
And we should be a better team uh that's that's what all this is about man you're every year you're in it and you're building the way brad and i have and the players that we have um you know you're developing and we expect to be a better team than we were last year we we fully expect that and we've got the same goals as most teams do we yeah we wanted to win this division we want to get in the playoffs we want to make noise. We want to win the Super Bowl.
expect that. And we've got the same goals as most teams do.
Yeah, we want to win this division. We want to get in the playoffs.
We want to make noise. We want to win the Super Bowl, all that.
But I think for us what's interesting, we know what's out there. But, yeah, we haven't done anything.
Not like that. And so, to me, the message stays the same in the regard of, no, we didn't win the division last year.
Minnesota won it, and Green Bay won it for year and year after, year after, year after, before that.

And so to me, those are the kings in this division right now.

And we have to go earn that.

We didn't go to the playoffs last year.

We got to earn that.

And so to me, we're still on the outside looking in.

And that's what keeps us hungry.

Man, we got to go get it.

Yeah.

Bears won it in 2018, whatever.

I'm a Bears fan.

Thank you, big cat.

Yeah, I got you.

Yeah, I just want to.

I mean, you know, we're going to talk facts.

But I do actually want to bring up week 18.

Where are you going after this?

We're going to Buffalo.

I thought you said you were going back to Chicago.

Oh, back to Chicago, then to Buffalo.

Yeah, okay.

Yeah, yeah. So week 18 said you were going back to Chicago.
Oh, back to Chicago, then to Buffalo. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So week 18, you guys are eliminated.

Was there ever a doubt that you're going to go out there

and play the Packers tough and try to end their season?

Because I want to thank you for that.

That was beautiful, watching Aaron Rodgers throw an interception

to end his Packers career.

But was there ever even a doubt like, hey, we're out.

How are we going to get the guys up?

Or was it like, no, next year starts right now?

No, there was never a doubt.

And quite frankly, Big Cat, I would tell you this.

I would have been shocked had we come out there and laid an egg.

That's how well I knew this team and the guys that we have on this team.

I believed with everything in my heart, no matter what was going to happen, because I felt like if they did, then man, there's blood in the water. All we got to do is win and we get in.
And if not, it was going to piss them off. Yeah.
Like, oh, if it's not us, then they're not going. And, uh, and that was the mentality they took, you know, and that tells you, you got the right guys and I got the right coaches.
Yeah. I mean, it was a great, it was a great way.
You don't see that very often where a team has nothing to play for and they play like that back to last year start kind of slow I think it was right before the bye week where you guys lost uh pretty soundly I think maybe to the Patriots was there a moment at all where you had any doubt where like am I losing this team a little bit or were you like no we're right there we just have to finish some things here yeah no I never felt that I never even felt close to that um I knew that I knew the guys were still in it I knew we hadn't you know lost the locker room or guys were starting to question what because honestly there there was we were playing pretty good offensive football for most of the year and defensively we were playing pretty good in flashes you know, you know, in moments. And then, oh, my God, we'd give up something.
It was a lack of communication. There was an MA.
And they were just – they were crushing us, you know. And so, as bad as it looked, and as bad as it was, it's not like we were – I never felt like we were far away.
And the coaches knew that. And honestly, the players knew that.
They knew if we just clean up one or two things, we are literally one play away from winning these games instead of losing. Yeah.
And that's what we were able to do. We were able to flip the script.
Our defense, we were much cleaner, man. We calmed things down.
The communication was better. We started getting turnovers, and we started taking care of the football and offense.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, hand up, I was wrong.
I was like, oh, Lions are going to be bad again this year. But I'm also really dumb, so I think whatever has previously happened will continue to happen.
Don't say that about yourself. That's not true.
It's the truth. Don't you ever say that.
It's the truth. If you lose week one, I'm like, oh, that team stinks.
You know what I mean? I overreact to everything. Yeah, we overreact to everything.
I got it. But it was it was very impressive because it is that fine line of like when things aren't going well our guy's still buying in and i'd have to imagine that's one of the toughest parts of the job is getting everyone to stay on the task even if you aren't getting the results on the field yeah look of course it is but it's the same token man they're look they're looking at me they're looking at me they're looking at at our coaches.
And if we believe in what we're telling them, I'm standing up there and they know I believe it, then they believe it. And they did.
And I just go back to this, that you can never do what we've been able to do over their two-year period. I mean, 21 was a struggle.
And then, man, you start one in six like we did last year without a staff that I've got. I've got an unbelievable staff now.
I believe it with everything. And those guys have done a great job.
And they're the biggest reason why we're able to get through some of these hard moments, adverse moments, and get to where we're at right now. Yeah.
One extra addition that maybe you should think about. You talked to us last time on Part of My Take.
You said that had considered uh getting a pet lion on the sidelines i did did you have you had any further conversations about bringing a live line i would say that sheila was she had no problem with it but the league apparently frowns on this type of thing roger goodell john i'm not gonna i'm not gonna point out roger on this i'm just gonna say that the the league frowns on that let Let's just say that. It would be nice, though, to have a line sitting behind Jack Fox being like, you better punt that fucking bull.
It does add a little scare tactic. It does.
You guys got to play for the job. It's a little extra motivation.
Yes, it does. So you guys are opening up the season this year.
Kind of crazy to think the Lions are playing against the Super Bowl champions week one. Does that like there's a condensed clock a little bit that way, right? So do you feel is how is preparation different knowing that you guys are going to be under the spotlight Thursday night game? I don't know if it's any different than a normal year in regards to how you prepare.
You know, I certainly think there's a you know, there is there there's urgency in every year, but to know that, man, you're facing the champ, man, you better be on, you better be on your game and all the little things, man, as fast as we can become detailed in what we do. Because I always believe early in the season, it's not the teams that make the most plays, it's the one that make the least amount of mistakes early in the year and as you go then it becomes the teams that make more plays um so you know the faster that we can we can all be on the same page uh in preparation the better off we're going to be now we got to start three days early so did they um I love the fact that we're going to have the Giants come in here for two practices then we're going to have Jacksonville coming in here the week after so and i just feel like we're gonna get enough variety enough different looks enough intensity that i'd like to believe man it'll really it can uh propel us into kansas city yeah the thursday night game to open it up that's another one where it's like okay standalone game we will overreact to whatever happens in that game you guys win your super bowl champs yeah no i, I get it.
I get it. I know that.
Yeah. And even if it's a close loss, maybe still Super Bowl champs.
I got you. But if we lose, then we don't belong there, right? We should have never been in the game.
Yeah, we'll see. Maybe like a three-point loss.
I'm like, yeah, they're probably still Super Bowl champs. Six-point loss.
Then I'm like, maybe playoffs and then anything double digits. I'm like, this team stinks again.
I love your honesty, by the way. I mean, that sounds – It really is how – you can listen to the episode after that and you can be like, yep, they were true to their word.
Do you watch any sports television, any like recap shows? Are you going to tune in on Friday morning if you guys win or lose in that game? Do you pay attention to anything that's out there? No, I don't. I don't.
And because that – I've always been that way because I know it's kind of like what you guys say. Man, this league is so gray.
And what's being said, we live in the world of gray, and it's not black and white. So you win, man, there is so much hype.
And there's so much – you get patted on the back. And, man uh man you got to be careful because you can buy into that and that's not reality just like you don't win and you're reading that man you can lose confidence and so i just stay out of that man and i live in the moment and i just go off the tape and what the coaches say because i that's a you got to be careful with that stuff yeah yeah so you mentioned the giants coming coming in for a joint practice Brian Dable great year last year you coached with him in Miami he told a story that when you were interviewing for the tight end coaching job you spent half the interview out of breath because you were smashing tables and chairs true or false all Right.
True, I was out of breath. True, I used chairs.
I used chairs.

I don't know how much I was. I use some chairs.
I don't know if I was smashing, you know, the chairs into the walls and there was holes everywhere. I think he exaggerated on that.
But, uh, but yeah. Okay.
Look, most of it was true. All right.
Most of it was true. Passionate.
Yeah. It was unbelievable.
It was the best. Look, Dave's – man, he is a bright, bright coach, man.
I was fortunate to be able to work under him as the OC. I learned a ton from him.
But he's an unbelievable dude. But, yeah, and Tony Sprana was the head coach, God rest his soul.
But, you know, he had said – he had told Dave, oh, hey, man, I got a guy I want you to just interview him. And man, I, you know, I'd come, I was fresh out of playing.
Right. Uh, I just really retired the year before or, and I, and then I was on staff with Tony as a kind of assistant O-line coach.
And so that next year, 2011, he gets the job, um, you know, and so he, he asked him, Hey man, won't you, won't you man, won't you let him interview? Well, I didn't have the packet. I didn't have all these, you know, I mean, I don't know how you're supposed to interview as a coach.
So all I know is I'm just going to go in there and go through it. It's like I was a player, right? Here's the technique.
Here's the chair. Here's how I'm going to do it.
Here's the play. And then running routes and running around the table.
I'm up at the top. So I just demoed everything.
I just demoed the whole thing. And then he was – so I could tell he was trying to keep from laughing.
Of course, I'm dripping with sweat. Yes, I'm out of breath, you know.
And then he would throw, all right, what happens if that chair – back that chair up 10 yards. Now how do you do it? You know.
Yes, it was awesome. To your credit, he also said that the next morning you were in the gym at 6 a.m.
deadlifting. Actually, power cleans.
I didn't do deadlifts, but yes, I did. So you were ready to go still.
But that's a great story. I mean, that's, you know, I would imagine the interview for the head coaching job here maybe a little less sweaty.
It was the same thing. I started with the Zoom, so I was just showing Sheila all these moves.
i was demo no yeah i was i was much more prepared to interview as a head coach yeah and i had all my ducks in a row yeah it was yes and then you uh you worked with with sean payton for a while i did and there was just a story that came out the other day and in that story it talked about how he uh he likes he's got a video editor on staff that makes all these motivational films for him like he edited in i think like a car driving off a cliff i know that he used to play like the video of the rats getting snapped have their neck snapped by uh by mousetraps yes uh what was what was the one thing about motivating people you learned from sean do you do any of that stuff i i do i do i'd like to change it up i don't have as many of those little tr videos, some of those things. But Sean was always great in doing those things.
And a lot of that, Coach Parcells was that way too. But look, Sean, I just go back to this.
I owe Sean everything, man. I learned more under Sean.
I spent more time under Sean Payton than any other coach in this league as a player and a coach. I mean, I was, I was with him for, you know, eight years out of my 11 as a player, and then I coached under him for five.
So I learned so much as a player, and I learned a ton of what I am as a coach, you know, from him. But, yeah, he was always that, you know, Sean now, he's off the chain.
He'll do some stuff. But he gets your attention.

Yeah, leaving gas cans in the lockers.

Yeah, he did that.

I told the story the other day.

You were talking about the mousetraps.

The players came in when I was at New Orleans.

And, you know, I don't know.

We just won six in a row, you know, somewhere five or six in a row.

I think this was 2017.

And we're playing an opponent who is perceived as a lesser opponent than the ones we just were able to beat that nobody thought we could beat. And we come in.
I mean, there are mousetraps hanging from the ceiling. I don't know how many there are.
I mean, it just looks like thousands of them. And I don't even know who did it, who had them put up.
And they've got them up there and there's some cheese on the floor and everything else and it was you know it was that whole deal don't take yeah yeah all right so very important question uh in terms of motivation you said i think it was two years ago when you guys lost the eagles you said you buried the tape did you actually bury the tape yeah ag took it out there okay good he took it out there and every one of the players had an opportunity to just throw a little dirt on it. It was literally – it's buried out there somewhere right behind the facility here.
Okay. All right.
I'm so happy because I was worried for a second. Because I think actually Tony Sperano, who we mentioned earlier, he buried a football at one point.
Like literally buried a football. I think he did that when he took over his interim at the Raiders.
Yes, the Raiders. Yeah.
He did. Well, and look, here's what's funny about it, it buried the tape well who has the tape anymore right right everything is digital now so we like literally had to have our video uh video department they kind of put it on I guess it was more of a cd if you will or a heart external hard drive you know and it's like all right we've got it there now let's take it out and bury it so it wasn't like the old school you know you buried a computer yeah i love it i love it i'm so happy you said that because i was worried you were just saying metaphorically you buried the tape no you literally buried the tape we literally did that's great good yeah i mean i remember when uh when you were in miami and the the dantallica days make everybody wear plaqued uh black practice uniforms you remember that oh of course i mean the wide stance, yeah, the wide stance.
This is the stuff that we remember. Yeah, power stance.
Of course we remember that. Are you able to play any Metallica here, or do you let somebody else take control of that? No, we've got – what I've done is I let the person that we have that runs the music for us, they handle it, but it goes through our players.
So I let our players, obviously our most veteran guys, get to decide what's out there in practice. But I told them, once a day, I just want, just give me one.
That's all I ask. Just give me one Metallica song somewhere in there, and we're good.
And everything else belongs to the players. Yeah, I like that.
All right, so a little weird question. You run hot.
You're on record as running hot. I run hot as well.
Yeah. Ideal sleeping temperature, if you could pick it, because the article that they had in The Athletic was like, your wife has to go to bed in full sweats and like a parka.
But if you're like on the road and you could get it to any temperature. Yeah, on the road, if I can get it.
I mean, normally the lowest you can get is 55 in a hotel. Right.
I got it at 55. Okay.
I'll get it as low as I can get it. At home with Holly, yes, she does.
She wears the sweats. Then you're looking at 65 is about as far as I can go with it.
Okay. 68, and I got the fan on full tilt.
Yep. You run hot.
I got the chili pad underneath. I got that cranked down in the 60s.
so if you could you'd be in the 40s if you could

man if i could i would i love that yeah i would yes your first move when you get when you check in the hotel you go straight for that thermostat i do man the people yeah i do that's the right it's the thermostat and then pull the sheets because i hate the tucked in sheets no doubt rip them yes yeah no doubt you want your feet to feel free i don't want them hanging out but i want them free yes otherwise your toes get all bunched up in there it hurts um but no that that um yeah you're talking about the the here's my man i got i can sweat all day outside i got no problem heat humidity i don't care but it's like man when i come inside i don't want to come inside and drip with sweat yeah you know it's not my deal especially sleeping man i don't want to sleep hot yeah i run hot as well there you go yeah i have just like not even a blanket just a cover like a sheet because i run hot i hear you yeah yeah i'm all in what about uh how many how many pints of talente are you eating these days actually i back down because you were doing what two to three a night yeah i'm i'm down to one and that's not every night right now believe it or not and it's not because of any like well i just need to watch my way i just i don't know i haven't craved two in a while so i just i'm down to one and uh and you know i'll go three nights in a row and then sometimes i i don't go for another two nights or something so what about coffee how many cups we up to today yeah i'm well as of right now i'm only two i haven't had anything post-practice this morning though you know i had the whatever the big the big ventis and uh two shots in each like i've done i haven't changed that routine i brought you some coffee oh you did yeah i have a coffee company so right there we have i bought you everything beans grounds cold brew some hats to just say coffee on it i love it so i got it all for all for you. I love it.
I appreciate it. Yeah, I knew you were a coffee man.
I didn't get you guys anything. No, your presents is a present.
That's kind of messed up. Yeah.
Thank you. I do love the attention to detail.
Even the coffee warmers here have, or the hand coolers have grit on them. You like that? And I saw some guy outside.
He was wearing a massive chain that had grit and big letters at the bottom. I didn't know if that was team issued or if that was something that he made and brought from home no i haven't said was that a player was that i think it was in the friends and family section oh okay i gotta find that you should do like a as we have not doled out like grit chains or anything that's not a bad idea yeah and say like the turnover chain film study i like tuesday you're watching you win the grit the grit chain for this week i like that that's actually a great idea about yeah you can use that one you can get a whole economy going of grit if we do that i'm gonna give you credit for that yeah there we go pay me in grit coin uh i've got i've got a segment that we do with every interview that we have it's questions from a third grader so i talked to miss joyce's third grade class in dripping springs texas and they had three questions for you you know dripping springs yeah down in central texas yep yep uh first question was do you like cats or dogs dogs good answer that's correct good answer uh second question this is from uh brian he's eight what's your favorite food favorite food probably ribeye steak oh that's another great answer third question is from jenny she's also eight do you think that saint anger was unfairly maligned by critics who didn't understand the sonic importance of the album it's a pretty good question it's a great question it's an eight eight year old absolutely i do yeah that's a great question i don't know if she asked that but i know she did yeah yeah it's an outstanding question that's a totally real thing we do people sleep on St.
Anger, I guess. Yes.
I don't know if she asked that, but I love that. No, no, she asked that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's an outstanding question.
That's a totally real thing we do. People sleep on St.
Anger, I guess. Yes.
That's outstanding. Do you listen to Rage, too? No.
Oh, so it's just Metallica. Yeah.
What's the second? Like, what's your second favorite? Honestly, I'm Metallica, and then I'm, like, classic rock. Okay.
To be honest with you. And I love classic country, you know.

Okay.

Those are kind of my – so I don't – I kind of – it's just I've got this, you know.

I don't know.

Metallica is just – I've always been partial to them.

It speaks to you.

It's its own genre kind of.

Yeah, it is.

For Rakin' classic rock, what's your favorite classic rock bands?

Lynyrd Skynyrd.

Yes, correct.

Lynyrd Skynyrd would definitely be up there.

Number two – number two, probably Journey. Okay.
Number three, Foreigner. Yeah.
You know, that's about as far as I'm at right now. That's a good list.
Yeah, I've been learning Freebird for the last three years. I like Dire Straits.
Uh-huh. Yeah.
You know, say it again. I've been learning Freebird for the last three years really on guitar i'm three years i haven't i've peaked at 75 but maybe you could motivate me to finally finish free bird uh i would have to be with you in the moment while you're doing it okay yeah i think to have any help and i can't guarantee i could but i i much better than just over the phone or zoom or you know what about like i wake up in the morning and'm like, I really don't want to practice that same song again.
I could do that. Call me.
Okay. Call me.
Yeah. You don't mean that.
I think I can help you out. This isn't a question.
It's just a statement. We love Jared Goff.
Yeah, absolutely. I love Jared Goff.
No, we love Jared Goff. I'm glad you love Jared Goff.
I love Jared Goff. No, we love him.
I'm glad you love him. We love him so much that we'll let you have him.
Thank you very much. Because we want to see him have you.
Because we'll take him. Yeah, all right.
So there you go. See what we did there? We let him have you.
Thank you for that. He'll come back.
Yeah, thank you for that. What's it like coaching your son Jack? You know, well, look, there's times where I'm really proud of him, that he's part of my lineage.
But then there's other parts that I don't claim him. That's just part of being a rookie.
He's got to grow and learn, you know. Is there a small part of drafting where you're like, let's move him up one spot.
He's got a good last name. My whole family can get the jersey.
That's what everybody thought. And it took me a while before I was like, maybe I need to check and see if he he is kin to me we've been scouting him for about two months before it even dawned on me i wonder if he's somewhere down the line he's not though i got a actual football question here for you in the draft you also took gibbs a running back right and there's been a lot of talk about running backs being kind of a devalued position over the last what 10 12 years yeah you saw something in him that made you want to grab him in the first round.
What is it about Gibbs that you think is special enough to warrant that pick? For a college player, you know, we knew he was smart. Like, he was very smart and he was versatile.
Those two things, like, you can see the athletic ability. Like, everybody knows what he ran.
You know, you see what he run. He's an explosive, fast athlete.
But then you see a guy who can read the wide zones. He can run some downhill runs.
And then, man, he's a factor in the pass game. The routes out of the backfield, we think there's more to him potentially outside as kind of a slot outside receiver.
And he's smart. Because you can't do all that unless he is smart.
and that's why AK, that's kind of a slot outside receiver, and he's smart, you know, because you can't do all that unless he is smart. And that's why, like, AK, that's one of the reasons AK is the player that he's become is he's got these things in his body and versatility, but he's smart, man.
And, like, you can ask him to do a ton of different jobs because he can grasp it. And that's what intrigued us about him.
And,'s one of the best players in the draft yeah this was not uh the strongest draft class or you know draft that there's been in a number of years so we were all about let's get the best players yeah we can get yeah um all right i have one last question it's a rowback question rhoback.com use code take 20 off your first purchase joggers shorts uh qzips polos everything Roback. Use code TAKE.
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20% off. Alright, my last question, and feel free if you want to cry, you can cry.
Just talk about football. Just talk about football.
Yeah. Just talk about football.
And you can cry. No, look.
Here's what I'd say. No, I don't just cry on command.

I have to get – I have to do it.

Think about football.

It's just when it goes, it goes.

Yeah, think about football.

But, look, here's what I'd say about football, man.

When I think about football, this – man, we –

anybody who's been able to play this sport at any level, man,

when you're a kid, you know, middle school, high school, college,

you're fortunate enough to go to the pros, man, me we owe everything to this game and the game speaks for itself and it's not about what this group of people have done for this game or this group of people have done for this game and how this has made this game better the game speaks for itself and the only thing we can do is mess it up. And to me, don't ever disrespect this game because

it is, in my opinion, it's the greatest sport that you can possibly play, man. It's a team sport.
There's blood, there's sweat, there's tears, and everybody's got to be going the same way to have success. One guy is out of the boat, or he's not rolling, and it'll mess everything up.
And I just think it's not for everybody, but I respect the hell out of it. And to me, we owe it as players, coaches, anybody that's associated with it to give it everything you've got because it is an unbelievable game, man.
You're about to cry. I know i just get emotional yes i love it i mean that's i it makes me so pumped when you talk about football there was that moment in hard knocks where you had that like the end of hard knocks and it was like this guy cares so much and i love watching people who care that much about something it's like it's it's it's something that you just like you draw it off someone you're like that energy is something special you have well i don't know but i i appreciate it it look it's i love the game man and i love people that give it all they have to it too yeah yeah well coach campbell yeah best of luck this year except against the bears uh you're the best though.
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It means something. So thank you very much.
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Okay, boys. Mount Rushmore of recurring guests.
This is going to be, this might not be the smartest thing we've done. I'm excited about it, though, because it is, it feels like some feelings will get hurt.
There's stakes on the line for this. It's like three levels of feelings, too, because it's the recurring guests that will see this and anyone who gets left off it is us having to pick our favorite recurring guests and then there's pressure on the awls they vote for their favorite grouping of recurring yeah you could really piss some people off yeah so this is all around uh gonna be interesting we're also back to We're all we're all every Mount Rushmore is going to be recorded live.
The standings, 16 Big Cat and PFT, 16 Jake and Billy, 15 Max. So all the North Carolina recordings are over.
It's the rest of the summer. Some are calling it the Grit Week War.
It is the Grit Week War. We've already decided, by the way, because we do try to – we take feedback.
We try to evolve. Next summer, we're going to go back to solo, me, PFT, and Hank.
And, you know, if you lose, it doesn't matter. But this one – so savor the war is what I'm saying.
You have one month left of the Mount Rushmore War. Next summer, we'll switch it back up.
Then the that we'll switch it back up but this is this this this next month will be as contentious as it gets we're reading the ideas from from AWLs from Mount Rushmore's and when we came across this one we said out loud in the cars me picket and Hank and all three of us simultaneously go oh my god yeah because it's like it's that feeling your butthole puckers you're excited you start sweating this is the mark of a good mount rushmore topic this is yes what were the other ones that we're thinking about uh there's a lot of good ones uh mount rushmore of thousand suggestions of billy's lies that he's told yes that was good that would be a good one yep mount rush was there one mount rushmore of hank's uh golf videos or golf shots that sucked there was something about Hank. You were going through it for the whole weekend.
Oh, no. Yeah, you were.
No. Mount Rushmore of Hank golf YouTube comments.
That would be a good one. Yeah.
That would be fire. We should do that.
Hank, for how much you play golf, you think you'd be better. We should do that one.
Oh, Hank, do you want to, spoiler alert, you should watch uh me versus hank golf video that came out on thursday what was it called oh it's called it's actually originally titled breaking 100 because hank and i were on the same team but then it evolved into something much more interesting than that it was just breaking 100 that's all it was yeah yeah exactly yeah me and team. Was Trent in it? I'm just kidding.
All right. What's the order? Do we have it? Jake sent it to us, right? Jake's not here.
Jake, nobody sent it to us. Jake said.
You are concussed. Dude.
I have. For those at home.
All right. Me and Max, Big Cat and PFT, Jake and Billy.
Billy, what did you do last night? Have an allergic reaction. Okay.
To beer? I hope not. Yeah.
All right. One, one.
Wait, we're going right into it? Yeah. Okay.
What else? What else? I'm just nervous. I'm nervous, too.
Yeah. I mean, I spent a lot of time thinking about this.
You know, I've produced pretty much every episode except for the ones I'm on vacation. Probably 90%, 95% I've been around for.
90%? I actually think I know what you're going to pick. At least.
He was the first person. He was a huge name.
Superstar. He came on.
He did the interview. It got picked up by all the big outlets it was one of the kind of like wow we've made it moments oh wow he is the uh biggest winner of he has had the won the most awards of our biggest award of the year blake of the year boston celtic blake griffin okay okay that's a good pick good pick i thought you're going to go with something else I think we go with our one one sure yeah let's see he's he I think he has been on the most episodes we liked him so much we hired him yeah he is he is the most dependable recurring guest we have it's never a bad time it is Ryan Whitney Ryan Whitney is he is Mr.
Dependable and like I don't I don't think anyone has ever listened to a Ryan Whitney interview and not had a great time from day one. Yeah.
He came on and he was talking about gas and beers, Chuck and Knox. That's a spit.
Yeah. He's the best.
Yeah. I mean, I actually, I thought you were going to go with, I thought, cause like he is, I think he is the most, I think he, when we did it, but we have a whole war dedicated to Blake.
If we had a Ryan of the year, Ryan Whitney would be the guy. We don't need a Ryan of the year.
He's our Ryan of the year. A.
Wow. I can't think.
I said A. I said A.
Wow. I just said A.
He's our Ryan of the year, not our re-end of the year. Wow.
Big difference. Those are two separate awards.
Two totally different awards. Two totally different awards.
I guess. No, their names are different.
Sure. How do you spell them? Okay, you can spell Alex different ways, too.
It's the same name. No, no, it's not.
That's not true. We literally have a Brooks in our Blake of the year.
Yeah. He's a Blake.
He's a Blake. All right.
Go ahead. Two back-to-back.
Yep. Yep.
Yep. You sure do? He's going to make sure this doesn't get contentious.
No, I'm going deep cuts. Lenny Dykstra.
Okay. Good pick.
And Stingray Steve. Okay.
All right. Okay.
Only eight times. He's so mad if he was in this room right now.
He would be like, Billy, you're so mad. No, no, no.
The eight-timers will know. The seven, six-timers may not, but the eight-timers will.
I mean, they were like, they weren't even really guests. Yeah, but they were good.
Dude, I almost pissed myself in the car when you guys were calling Lenny Dyingstra. It was so fucking funny.
Yeah, I think Lenny's a good pick. Stingray Steve's not.
The Hindenburg? The Hindenburg was pretty good. I know, but it also went all the humanity.
Those you know know. Those you know know.
Alright, here we go. Should we just do another Ryan? We could go.
We could collect them all. Yeah, let's collect all the Ryan's.
Ryan Russillo. We got Russillo.
Also Mr. Dependable.
We got Whitney. What are you looking at me for i'll let you explain your pick first well we would need an explanation about ryan rusillo he's great the life episodes ryan is incredible on those he's been a great friend of the show throughout the years yeah he's those are our two like rocks if you had to like if you had to be like who are calling up for a show who we know will show up it's the ryan and also i think those two could probably beat up as a tag team duo almost every other combination yes yes what what what go ahead denigrate i'm not i'm not denigrating ryan ryan was a great guest ryan of the year ryan of the year yeah he's ryan of the year um all right going to go.
Again, I'm thinking long term. I'm thinking of the show.
Like, best recurring guest. Okay.
We weren't thinking of that either. Scott Van Pelt.
Good pick. Great pick.
Good pick. And then we're going to go with Tim Woods.
He might not come on again because his house burned down last time he came on. That's sad.
I'm sorry to hear that. It sucks.
Yeah, a lot. Do you not remember that? I do.
Yeah. That's unfortunate.
But great recurring guest. One of the only guests on Barstow Van Talk.
Absolute legend. Head was spinning right now with delight.
What? His head's spinning. With delight.
The logo spinning. Yeah.
The Mets traded Max Scherzer and he got picked on the recurring guest. Also, Scott Van Pelt, I think that his dome would look awesome on a real Mount Rushmore carved in the side of a mountain.
Yeah. And then we're going to go with Tim Woods.
Okay. Good pick.
That was a pander pick. Good pick.
That's a great pick. How is that a pander pick? All right.
What should we do here? What are you looking at, Max? I mean, I'm just looking at billy um i like i like two numbers again i like two oh yeah let's go two easy yeah yeah jerry o'connell easy love jerry love jerry love jerry had no idea what to expect from jerry first day he came in and just a delightful man he's become like a very like big part of this show through an interview that we thought.

We're like, oh, fuck.

We'll do Jerry O'Connell.

And then we're like, this guy's the best.

So, yeah.

Can't wait for our fantasy football preview with Jerry O'Connell this year.

Billy.

Two more back-to-back?

Yeah.

I'm going to go with Joe Burrow.

This is bad.

Feelings are going to get hurt.

There's so many that I have.

No, no.

I'm going Joe Burrow and Josh Allen.

Okay.

Okay.

Good pick.

Because I would have taken them before the Stingray Steve. I literally got vaccinated to meet Josh Allen.
That's the only reason I got vaccinated. What? Yeah.
Wait, you got vaccinated? None of us did. Yeah, dude.
Fuck. Josh Allen would be so mad at you if he found that out.
I know. That was literally the only reason.
What? Did you? They didn't even get vaccinated. I know, dude.
It was like, did you just not? Did Jake even send you a list? I didn't even look at his list. Can we read Jake's list after? Yeah, let's read it after.
Okay, after. It'll be great.
All right, this is big. Okay, it is big.
Because Billy's punted on this entire draft. I like 10, 11.
He's done my win. Let's go with six.
Okay. Six.
Okay. We see these numbers.
Chris Berman. We're taking Boomer.
Oh, really? You're pumped about that? Yeah. Okay.
Boomer. And just so we know, just so we're clear, Hank made us pick six.
Any other great recurring guess? It would have been you. It would have been you.
just so we're clear it would have i'm talking to all of them they know exactly who they are it would have been you hank took that out of our hands he made that pick for us just anyone who's listening right now is like why did i get picked it literally was going to be it blame hank yeah i'm thrilled he made it this far i kind of regretted him not taking the last round the people's lawyer mike portnoy okay good pick had him on our list yeah yeah he was gonna be on your list duh well no our pick would have been if it wasn't for your pick of chris berman for us it would have been max homa it would have been chris and kyle long i mean chris long was the first guest on the show he was the first person you want to get on the show, and you didn't even pick up. It would have been tight.

Same for you, dude.

You've been on the show.

Well, it's not my show.

Yeah, it is.

We had Coach O.

No, it's not.

Yeah, it is.

We had Joe Buck.

You get paid just as much as me and PFC.

No, not even.

Dr. Fauci was on my list, on my short list.

Dr. Fauci was on my short list.

Dan Heron.

Joe Buck. Greg Olson.
Blake Bortortles Kittle, Paul Bortles, Brooks Death So many good ones Tommy Lasorda Foul ball guy Michael Rappaport John Cena Edelman, Dak Prescott Julian Edelman I should have picked Edelman I'm sorry that's on me

oh you didn't pick Jules

he was going to be our pick

and you made us pick Chris Berman

that's tough

this was a dumb thing for us to do

really dumb

you want to just bleep this entire thing out

also Billy like punted

we should have had both Long Brothers. We should have had Jules.
I didn't punt. Give us Jake's list.
Well, it was all the ones you just said. Okay.
SVP, Blake's, Witt, Biz, Buck, Mr. Portnoy, Elman, Titus, Josh, Allen, which I got.
He's going to be so mad at you for Stingray, Steve. Because Billy is trying to throw this draft.
I'm not. But his bots will probably give him the victory.
I don't have bots. I'm sorry.
I glanced over at Billy's computer and the thing and the first thing on the thing was Dr. Fauci and I just...
Who else? had some great aj green nichols aj green dk metcalf dk metcalf is aj green is a joke dk metcalf for real yeah ike taylor oh yeah he was a great guest back on yeah he was hilarious yeah this actually came from mike tyson uh interview on Friday who he will be a recurring guest. Vrabel.
Vrabel. He's going to kill us.
LaFleur for taking all the shit that we give him. Aaron Rodgers.
Yeah. Aaron Rodgers.
Yeah. My favorite guy.
Gronk. Gronk.
Liverking. I thought Billy was going to take Liverking.
I did too. Yeah.
He was really short. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, Billy picked a guy that was singray steve would never was a guest he just we he we dude he was recorded a call that we put he was one of my favorite he literally was probably my favorite guy he basically wasn't like i like this show so much more seven years yeah we might get some but that also is when you weren't on it I know billy's the first person that replies like this show is so much better before billy i can't wait till billy's gone because he wants to go back to listening to part of my take exactly are you gonna listen again billy oh it's gonna be hard i didn't call because we ruined your life no no it's gonna be hard it's actually very easy to listen again, Billy? It's going to be hard.
I didn't call. Why? Because we ruined your life? No, no.
It's going to be hard. It's actually very easy to listen to a podcast.
No, I mean. Download.
It's like two thoughts. You need two touches of your thumb.
I'm not driving anywhere anymore. Yeah.
Yeah, that's true. Because you lost your license.
Well, we don't talk about that. Okay, yeah, true.
Dude, I thought... Bleep that out.
That's a good wink, Billy. Billy just hit it with an all-time wink.
I have no most aggressive wink at all. That wasn't that aggressive.
Actually, my eyes are so puffed. My eyes are swollen, so...
Max, can you please make a gif out of that? Because I want to use that. Probably a little more aggressive.
The aliens. All right.
Good draft, maybe. Yeah.
I'm going to win. Getting any honorable mentions.
I'm going to fucking win this draft. We should just put underneath the draft all the honorable mentions.
Tom Frinelli. Andy Staples.
We should put an honorable mention and just list them all. Oh, Florio.
Florio. Prisco.
Schefter. All the Italians.
Yelich. Fuck.
Kittle.ittle We were going to pick Kittle actually The worst is going to be the people that we didn't even mention right here That's what I'm saying, we need to do an honorable mention Can we do an honorable mention with literally every guest we've ever had? It's going to take a while Randy Moss Randy. Yes.
Yes. Randy Moss, for sure.
Kirk Goldsberry. Yeah, sorry, Kirk.
Damn it. You guys.
Kirk Herbstreit. Herbstreit.
Yeah. Kirk Minahan.
Riggs. McShay.
McShay. Fuck.
Dave Portnoy. Daniel Jeremiah.
Dave Portnoy. Aaron Nagler.
All right, who else? Anyone? I mean, we're just listing every guest now. I mean, it's just too many to name.
Aaron Andrews, Closer Thompson. Yeah.
Yeah. Fuck.
Bonk. Bonk.
Roosevelt. Bonk.
Tatro. Fuck.
Tatro. Layla Ali.
Stav. Stav.
Bert Kreischer. Yeah, I had Stav.
Bert. Hmm.
There'm sure. Yeah.
I had stuff. Bert.

Hmm.

There's a lot.

Fuck.

We really fucked up.

Yeah.

This was a mistake.

This is a bad idea.

Jeannie Bouchard.

Jeannie Bouchard.

CJ McCollum.

Oh, yeah.

McCollum. Hey.

Yeah.

We haven't had him on in a while.

He's got to come back on.

Reddick.

Sons and four guy.

Sure. He does not understand the assignment.
I know. The guy, the dog judge.
That interview rocked. It did.
That was an awesome interview. Marina's dad.
Yeah. Garrett McNamara.
Duncan Robinson. John Taffer

Big Wave Surfer

Who's allergic to water?

Jerry McNamara?

Adam Morrison

John Taffer

Guy Fieri

Guy Fieri

That's enough

There's like 17 ways

Thank you. really fucked guy fiari guy fiari that's enough there's like 17 ways to say his last name and that's this was such a bad idea fieri fieri fieri fieri dk mackgaff and aaron donald we should probably post some of those clips yeah memes get on that please i haven seen any of those.
I don't think memes has ever posted any of those. How much can they bench memes? All right.
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I have an idea.

Okay.

What's the idea, Dan?

There's three shows this week. Yep.
Okay okay i think we should do a random drawing on the three shows and one person has to shave nope yep i'm down i'm in i'm in this is this we can include we can include so it's the five of us we can include memes four of us i'm not doing it not shaving? No. Hank, don't you want to go above and beyond for a sponsor? You can leave a mustache.
I don't want to do this either. Who wants to hear my idea, which is be more receptive? Okay, yeah.
I'd love to hear Billy's idea. Waffle House.
Okay. You're out? You're out.
You're fully out. I'd just like to say that I'm in for the idea.
Alright. Great.
I have a lot to lose. I'm in.
Max? Hank's out. Yeah, you could be in.
You also might not get picked. Hank, this is the thing where...
I always get picked. But if you go...
I always lose. If it's a random...
He has no facial hair.

I do have facial hair.

If it's random...

I am...

Billy has no facial hair.

I have a lot.

You have kids.

Okay.

Hank, the aliens might come down overnight, and then the world's over, and you don't even

have to...

Hank, you might not get picked.

Okay, but I...

Why don't you say, yes, you're in, and then if you get picked, say, no, I'm not.

How about goatee?

That's lame.

Yeah, you can do goatee.

Okay.

I dig this.

I've done this on Groom before.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

All right, you're in for goatee?

I'm in for goatee.

I'm in for mustache.

I don't know. say no I'm not.
How about goatee? That's lame. Yeah, you can do goatee.
I did this. I've done this on Grew before.

You're in for goatee? I'm in for mustache.

I did this for the second Grew week.

PFT, you're in.

I'm in.

It's going to be three times.

And then Jake?

Jake stays shit.

We're looking at people who don't have beards.

Jake's a smooth boy.

Name generator? Name picker. Jake's going to be shaved anyways.
Here we go. All right.
So who's in? Everyone. Okay.
PFT. Billy.
Just put Hank's name in there just for fun. Just see what it would pick.
Jake, Memes, Big Cat, Max. You can put my name on there if you want.
I did. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven.
All right. Would you do a goatee? Ready? I'll put a razor on my face.
Yeah, you guys will show the camera. Okay.
Let me make it. What about a goatee for the need beard guys?

Billy, are you serious?

We just said that.

I'm doing goatee.

I'm so sorry.

I got an idea, guys.

What about Waffle House?

Here we go.

Random name picker.

Here we go. watch the YouTube it's gonna be Hank ready fuck it was me oh that was great that's perfect that was great oh okay well tomorrow's interviews I'll have a mustache also Hank isn't allowed to celebrate this because he doesn't want to play it not at all we'll do it again on Tuesday I'm now off because I'm going to shave oh your name is eliminated I'm not going to shave I think that your name's eliminated.
Yeah, my name is eliminated. I'm not going to shave, but yeah.
Okay. I think that your name should still stay on there.
Why would my name still be on? I'm going to shave. Well, then it's not even that bad for you because you'll already be the mustache.
So then you should go ahead and shave then too. What? It's not even that bad.
Yeah. No.
Well, the second time wouldn't be that bad. This is all because I love the sponsors, and this is a proof to clip this and put it out there.
Any sponsor will go above and beyond. Same.
Except for Hank. He won't do shit.
I'm literally sponsoring my ass off right now. He won't do shit.
Do we have a Bic, and do we have cream? Yes. All right, great.
We're going to do it right after the tune into the Monday vlog. What's the schedule for Grit Week videos this week? Well, first, Max is putting the Ryder Cup out.
That's right.

No, I'm not doing Ryder Cup.

I'm not doing Ryder Cup.

Monday is definitely Dan Campbell.

Okay.

The rest of it.

You'll throw it into one of them.

Yeah, no.

Well, this will be a social clip.

Oh, okay.

Social clip.

Yeah.

Great.

Awesome.

I look so fucking fat.

I'm like the fattest I've been in a long time it'll look great next monday i'm gonna have to do all these interviews and the worst part is that we're gonna do interviews that we're not gonna run for like two weeks so i'll have my beard back but i people will be like uh fuck okay all right monday reading fuck fuck fuck whatever i'm i'm fine with it i'm fine yeah you're fine everyone else is fine with it my name was on the thing yeah and it will be on it on tuesday it'll be on on thursday okay can i still use the big stuff you could do goatee Or just sideburns Hank Long ass sideburns I did this already

Mmhmm Can I still use the Bic stuff? You can do goatee. Or just sideburns, Hank.
Long ass sideburns. I did this already.
I look like Mar from Home Alone. You remember Grit Week? I did it the whole time.
I was doing it. Each stop, I did a different thing.
And it was a disaster. I erased that from my memory.
Yeah, I don't remember. No, I'll post the pictures.
Okay. Will you? It was alarming.
Yeah monday reading coin boys so we i think pfti both saw this on twitter it is a screen grab from uh reddit teachers okay and it goes every year these kids come back with a new annoying quirk coin boys are apparently the new thing so it reads in my 10th year of teaching mostly freshmen and i uh what is s what's stg uh don't go to god and i swear to god that is that's insane as a teacher yeah that's yikes okay considering how fast you picked that up i swear to god ever since the pandemic and honestly like five years before that, there's always a new thing students bring to school that they learned over the summer from the internet or wherever. The newest thing here is a flock of self-proclaimed coin boys who carry a quarter on hand at all time and constantly flip it.
They have their entire personality revolve around coins, coin flips, and chance. When we went around doing an icebreaker, four or five of the kids said some variation of, I live by the coin and I die by the coin, as their fact.
Yeah, I love that. They're like Two-Face.
This is the most dudes rock thing ever. Just about an hour ago, when I assigned the first assignment of the school year, one of the coin boys was bold enough to say, heads I do it, tails I don't.
I told him if he flipped the coin, he would be getting a call home on the first week of high school. He flipped it anyway, and it came up heads.
Thank God for that at least. That's such a boss move to your teacher.
Heads I do it. You're establishing dominance.
I guarantee you she didn't call home because he's going to do it. She's only going to call home if you're not going to do it.
This is also one of those situations. What a rush that must be.
Yeah, as much as she hates it, she also understands you do live by the coin dog. I actually think that she respects the coin.
We should do this for the entire Grit Week. All of our decisions should be coin-based.
Flip the coin you shave, Hank. Yeah.
All of our decisions should be coin-based. But then the other coin...
I'd like to shave your head. Give me a million dollars bake i'll do it if you if you if you put up shaving your head i'll i actually i said i said tell bick i will shave my head for a million dollars i'll shave my beard for a million dollars okay boom uh you shave your head i'll shave my beard okay million dollars bick no but like why why don't you why don't you want to do it for the sponsors don't you want you want to go above and beyond? Because I've been growing this hair out for 11, 12 years.
100K, I'll undercut him. All right, back to the coin boys.
Billy's a little nest egg. But then the other coin boy in that class flipped his coin and came up tails so he doesn't have to do his homework.
He said the coin is spoken and he's say very well enjoy your zero and your call home what a great way to start off school year and your high school career i really hope this dies off soon i haven't seen anything online about this when i googled it so i'm guessing it's just a local friend group thing unless one of you has some more info yeah well it sounds as though they're high school freshmen right yeah so you have to get creative sometimes when you're hanging out you're freshmen. You don't always have a friend that can go out, buy you beer or whatever.
You have, you have a lot of time to kill around your house. So it sounds like they just got really into coins over the summertime.
I don't think it's an internet thing. I think this is a very, a very cool group of kids that came up with a hilarious game.
The only way to defeat the coin is with a coin. Yeah.
This teacher needs to go up to the front of the class day two and be like i'm gonna flip a coin heads you guys can stay living by the coin dying by the coin tails the coin's over yes and they have to respect the coin yeah because you live by the coin die by the coin yeah that's that's your only way out you have a 50 chance of getting out of this it's, I love this. They just live with a thrill every single day.

We're going to flip a coin for every decision we make.

Yeah.

That's the way to live.

I might be a coin boy.

Yeah.

This is also,

is this also not the plot of old country?

No control.

Yeah.

It's Javier Bardem.

Yeah.

Maybe they just watched that movie.

It's Javier Bardem or two face.

Yeah.

So yeah,

I think we should become coin boys.

Mm hmm.

I'm going to start flipping coins for random things that we decide.

Hank, you're in?

Sure.

Coins?

We gotta get some coins.

I never have coins.

It's a flex to be walking down the hallway with like four quarters in your pocket just jingling everywhere.

That's how people used to roll around all the time.

Yeah, sure.

You want to play pool.

The only thing better would be doing number. 69.
There we go. I could have said it anyway.
This episode, you never would have gotten it. You never would have gotten it.
You never would have gotten it. 21.
I'll go 88. Memes, have you ever gotten this? this Shit Never I don't think you can guess one Well it starts at one I don't know if it can Do one again Okay I hope it goes one this time Shane you want to guess Steve you want to guess 41 for Shane 36 for Steve Sound guy you want to guess Matt Matt I don't know.
One for Shane. 36.
36 for Steve. Sound guy, you want to guess? Matt.

Matt.

1 through 100.

He's like, I can't do this.

Do I have to shave my head?

22.

Oh.

God damn it, dude.

Oh, so close, Billy.

Fuck, man. So close, Billy.
If I had one, we'd be going to Waffle House. Yeah, we would.
That would be a great idea. Love you guys.
How are you hungry right now? I'm hungry all the time. Yeah, that's true.
Love you guys. Polar bears are huge pussies.
They actually... Every time they meet grizzly bears in the wild, they like run away because grizzly bears are about that action.
They scrap harder than polar bears. It's because their population densities are higher.
So they see other grizzly bears and fight them more. Where does that happen? Wait.
Also, Alaska, if being a pussy means that you're scared of grizzly bears, me too. But as a polar bear, I'm just saying as a polar bear, that's like not really, that's a high bar for pussy yeah but like polar bears like it's like bigger for example big stronger if derwin james was in this room right now i would be afraid of him because he'd knock me out right but if travis kelsey was in the same room as derwin james he should not be scared yeah yeah right should run him over right yeah he won't hopefully he does it'd actually be a great redemption arc if he runs over Derwin James

it would be

but he won't

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