Rich Eisen In Studio, Heat Tie Up The Finals, SCF G1, Jake Hit A Hole In One And Who's Back Of The Week

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Okay, let's go! washin' and then I can't play all on the sun, oh no. We're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue and then we'll take it higher.
Oh, we're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue and then we'll take it higher. Welcome to Pardon My Take.
Today is Monday, June 5th, and we have a series. The Denver Nuggets have lost for the first time in these playoffs at home.
The Miami Heat have tied it 1-1. And PFT, I'm happy that I told you that you weren't.
I talked you out of removing a testicle. Yeah, so thank you for that, Big Cat big cat although I still feel like I'm confident in my nuggets but tonight showed me that when the heat change up their defense they looked like they may have found something on defense where their strategy was we're gonna let Jokic score as many points as he wants yeah just be a scorer let him score a bunch of two-pointers because two points is not as much as three points.
And so their zone defense was kind of predicated on allowing him to be a scorer, not a passer. Yeah, he had four assists.
And he had four assists. Porter stunk shooting the ball.
Jamal Murray stunk shooting the ball until the fourth quarter. Everything kind of broke the Heat's way.
But you know who is really to blame for this being a series? Taylor Swift I was gonna say Jake Marsh Jake Marsh yes Jay this we're gonna get to his hole-in-one but that was an uh an ominous sign if you're a Nuggets fan it's definitely Jake's day today for sure um there was an article on ESPN about the Taylor Swift curse oh these NBA playoffs so every NBA team that made it to the semifinals this year,

they've had a Taylor Swift Eras Tour stop through their city.

Okay.

And they've all been eliminated.

The Denver Nuggets had Taylor Swift perform there.

The Miami Heat is the only team that has not had Taylor Swift perform in their city.

So if you're a Swifty, if you're a Swift boater,

you know that that means that Miami is going to win these championships.

Yep.

So you can see it. perform in their city.
So if you're a Swifty, if you're a Swift boater, you know that that means that Miami is going to win these championships.

Yep.

So you're going to have to get a tattoo and have it removed.

I don't think she's gone to Denver yet.

You mean it's like on the schedule?

Yeah, it might be on the schedule.

Yeah.

Got it.

Yeah.

Oh, wow.

Jake, Jake. Yeah, Jake, good call.

She is going there July 14th and 15th.

Yeah.

But yeah, this game, like the Heat, it felt – they came out, played great in the first quarter. Like, okay, this is the best effort the Heat have.
Then the Nuggets, you know, put up – they were up, like, double digits for a while, which, again, we keep telling ourselves, and it keeps shocking us every time. The Heat love to be down double digits in these playoffs and come back and going into the fourth quarter duncan robinson 10 straight points shout out podcasters everywhere but yeah it was it was basically the heat like the heat are so good as it just a team the way they move the ball everyone touches the ball they had four guys five guys in double digits four starters in double digits and it was yeah they were basically like yokich go ahead score 41 but you aren't going to be able to find guys for open threes and we're basically going to let you do everything and not let jamal murray or michael porter jr or you know kcp any of these other guys beat us and it worked And I, you.
And it is shocking just because the Nuggets, I always thought the Heat were going to be a little bit live in this series. I think my official pick was Nuggets in six, but the fact that the Heat won in Denver, which has not happened in these playoffs yet, and now seemingly have semi-control of this series going back to Miami, I don't know.
They stole home court. It's going to be, man.
Did you get a little upset watching this game, Hank, being like, man, that could have been the Celtics winning this game? Yeah, it's just sad. I mean, the Heat are good.
They just do not die. They are good.
They don't miss. They are like, I know that it's stupid to even say because obviously they're good and they're in the NBA Finals, but you still have to keep reminding yourself because they're the eighth seed and they weren't that good in the regular season, but they are a really fucking good team, and Spoh is the best.
He is the best coach. I like how they let him play down the stretch too.
Yeah. Not a lot of timeouts called.
Yeah. He just was like, let's do it.
And, I mean, Duggan Robinson, that was the difference in the game

because when he came out in the fourth quarter

and put up those 10 points and basically had a run by himself,

that was like it went from they were down, what, like five, I think,

going into the fourth quarter to then being up

and they never gave up the lead again.

Yeah, I've been loved plus 18 too.

Yeah, he had a good showing.

Who was a DNP in game one and then started tonight? They said that he was starting so that he could defend Michael Porter Jr. Mission accomplished.
Yeah, and he had 10 rebounds. So Kevin Love, like, it's just every time the Heat, they just have guys.
Like, even Max Struess, who was horrible in game one. 0 for 10 from the field, 0 for 9.
He comes out. He hits his first, I think, three out of his first four threes and ends up with 14 points.
They just bounce back. They also got to the line 20 times.
They shot 20 foul shots. They made 18 of them.
Game one, they shot two foul shots. So that's a big, big 16-point swing.
Six of them coming from KCP fouls, which were not great.

Those were bad, yeah.

Can't foul guys shooting threes.

Those are really dumb fouls down there.

But credit to the Nuggets, they did bring it back.

It looked like they were going to get their doors blown off in the first quarter.

Yeah, they had a shot at the end.

They came back, had a shot at the end.

It missed by a matter of inches.

And, yeah, now it goes to Miami.

Miami, they now have control of the series.

It's a must-win for Denver. Game three's must-win.
It's a can't-lose for Miami. Ooh, Max, thoughts of the must-win being thrown out there? There's no must-win.
Yep, it is a must-win. I agree with you, PFT.
But it's a can't-lose for Miami, though. Yeah, it's a can't-lose for Miami.
It's a must-win for Denver. Thank you guys for saying he culture was dead on Friday's show.
Yeah, no, we've buried it many times. Say it again, say it again.
No, I'm not. It couldn't be more alive right now.
Heat Culture was also dead in the first half tonight. Yeah.
It was, and it felt like watching this game in the first quarter, you're like, that was the best shot that he'd had, and then as soon as the second quarter started, you're like, oh, yep, here's the Nuggets. This what's the rest of the series is going to be and it just fucking heat culture man they just don't they just don't die they don't go away schrodinger's culture yeah they gave up a 40 to 14 run and still won yeah so what was crazy was miami miami looked awesome right out the gate they were so good for the first half of the first quarter if that makes any sense.
But then Denver ended up winning that quarter anyways. I think they were up by like seven.
No, in the first quarter? Oh, sorry. Yeah, they won by three.
So Denver brought it back close, and then the start of the second, it was like all of a sudden Denver was just dominating, and you thought, okay, this game's over. And then the fourth quarter, I don't know.
They got used to the altitude. They didn't run out of gas.
It is nuts, though, because as an entire organization, think about it. Kevin Love was DNP in game one.
Duncan Robinson last year couldn't get – we all – we love Duncan. He's a friend of ours, a friend of the show.
We're like, is this it for him in Miami when he was not getting on the court in big moments? And all these guys just never – they stay ready, and then they know that there's going to be a moment where they're going to be needed, and they perform. Yeah.
It is, it's redundant to say, but it is culture because you see it in other teams where it's like a guy has a bad spell, gets put on the bench, isn't able to bounce back. They just feel like the Heat have a bunch of guys who when they're called upon will step up and it might not be every game it might be every other game it might it might be long stretches where they're not playing and then when they get in it's like no they don't miss a beat that little stretch that duncan had where he started to scowl yeah when he put on the mean mug you know and gave vincent did a stare listen duncan i i liked the mean mug i thought it was effective.
You probably win 100% of the games when there's a Duncan Robinson mean mug that happens on the court. I think he practices it.
Yeah. I think it's a rehearsed face.
You can't get scowled at by a podcaster from Williams College. Yeah.
Normally we just fire Billy. Yeah, we're just like, dude, shut up.
Yeah. You just read that on Reddit.
The scary thing for the Nuggets, there's a couple scary things because they obviously lost home court here, but Jimmy Butler wasn't that great. He has not asserted himself in this series.
He did not have a great shooting night. He had a few turnovers.
He had some hemi shots down the stretch, though. Yeah, no, he did, but I'm just saying he wasn't.
There's more for Jimmy Butler and I'm saying co-Eastern Conference MVPs. Caleb Martin was also very bad again.
So those back-to-back bad games for Caleb Martin, it does feel like the Heat have some guys that could step up even more, even though you don't expect Duncan Robinson to go on a 10-0 run. That was fucking insane.
That was awesome. That was so sick.
As a Nuggets fan, I even felt it deep in my soul. So yeah, no testicle bet, thank God, but I might have to get a ball tattooed and then a ball removed.
Yeah, Hank, you missed that on Friday, but yeah, the immediate ball removed. I got out of pocket a little bit.
And you've never been able to

talk about ball again. Yeah, I just started to roll.

I can't talk about that ball. Jake, you should actually have

to get a golf ball tattoo because you got

a hole-in-one. Yeah.
You know ball.

I'll pass. TaylorMade.
You can

have mine. Okay.
Your tattoo?

Yeah. If I get a hole-in-one, I'm getting it

tattooed for sure. Yeah, shout-out

TaylorMade. Yeah.
And Roback and Coors Light.

Oh, great. Yeah, shout-out ball out.

Fuck yeah. I had all of them

integrated. What about first? You're like a NASCAR Thank you.
Tattooed for sure. Yeah, shout out TaylorMade.
Yeah. And Roback and Coors Light.
Oh, great.

Yeah, shout them all out.

Fuck yeah.

Had all of them integrated.

What about for him? You're like a NASCAR driver out there.

I love it.

For him should definitely do a sponsorship after like every game that him's player of

the game.

Yeah.

Just the guy that looked the horniest out there.

Or for him just being like, instead of even needing for him, just hit a hole in one.

You'll get hard all week.

Yep.

Did you get a little blood rush?

A little bit.

With the boys?

Yeah.

The boys are patting you on the ass, giving you a little smooch.

You see your ball go in a hole.

It's okay.

Things start happening in a guy's brain.

It's okay.

All right, so we have a series.

I'm excited because when you get to the NBA Finals, you just don't want it to end super early. You don't want it to end in four or five.
It's still obviously could end in five, but it feels like this could be a two, two going back to Denver, which there's nothing better than when you get the two, two game five. And so pivotal.
Yeah. I'm using that term.
Yeah. And now we get into the weird stretch of the NBA schedule where they try to, they're just like, let's put a game on every day of the week.
We also are going to be inundated with stats about like the winner of game three in a series when it's tied 1-1. I'll eat them up.
What's that percentage? I don't know what it is, but I'm going to, I'm going to recite that verbatim probably five times on the next show. Oh, I will let that distort all my thinking.
Kyle Lowry just finished with the post game he's got the longest shorts ever respect i like that uh did you see the very important thread from our good friend robert griffin iii no he put this out i believe on friday if the denver nuggets players each had a dipping sauce what best describes them man i'll start he helpfully volunteered to start oh thank god uh Jokic is barbecue sauce. Okay.
Because he fits in any system. And then Jamal Murray is ranch.
The sauce isn't quite loved by everybody, but it heightens the flavors of the food it's dipped in, making everybody better around it. Many believe this sauce deserves more love.
Are there like ranch haters out there? I mean, there's a blue cheese ranch divide. I've always thought that was like, it's a personal preference with wings.
I'm a blue cheese guy, but I like ranch for other things. Yeah, I like both of them.
I think it's more there's ranch fanatics who like put it on their pizza and shit. Yeah.
Aaron Gordon is ketchup. I think he just ran out of sauces.
So he was like, yeah, I'll just give him ketchup. This is a dud of a threat.
Michael Porter Jr. Like, I'll just be honest.
Michael Porter Jr. It's even worse hearing it.
Was Chick-fil-A sauce. Okay.
Because he's a mix. Basically, every player is a mix of different sauces except for Aaron Gordon, who's just straight-up ketchup.
At what point is RG3 just going to start doing the threads of, you know, like the hot threads now are just being like presidents reimagined AI as baseball coaches. Yeah, I like that.
Yeah, like what if every college mascot was fat and AI? My favorite ones are when they just put like a logo of a team and be like, who's the first player you think about when you see this logo? Yeah, those always slap. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay, so thank you, RG3.
That was, what was it, Chick-fil-A sauce for Michael Porter Jr.? Yeah, Chick-fil-A sauce was for Michael Porter Jr. If you're interested, Caldwell Pope was sweet and sour sauce.
Oh, nice. And then Bruce Brown was honey mustard.
Ooh. So spicy thread from RG3.
Yeah. Who's Barbacuffalo sauce? Did he get a lot of engagement off that? Not as much as you'd think.
Well, probably more than I'd think, because I'd think zero. Well, so he probably kept refreshing that thread, and he's like, I think Twitter's down again.
No one's responding to my sauce thread. Oh, it's got to be tough.
They just showed it to be the Joker guy in a loss. Have to go home sad in a Joker outfit? It actually is how theoker is created.
Yeah. If they ever make another joker,

it should be a guy at a Nuggets game

watching the Nuggets lose,

maybe like a really controversial foul,

and then he goes home and he decides to just be the joker.

Completely joker-fied.

Christian Brown should be Mayo.

That was a big miss by RG3,

not including that one on there.

Yeah, yeah.

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The Vegas Knights are on the board. I watched this whole game and a couple things.
One, it did feel like Florida maybe had a a little too much rest so sucks for them that they were so good in the eastern conference final two it feels like and whitney told us this vegas having these huge defenders uh florida is like a team that as a as a as a team feels like they just want to get in fights and bother you. And Vegas is the most disciplined, big team that it might not work for them.
It might not work. It's obviously game one, but it might not work against a team like Vegas who's like, no, fuck this.
We'll play hockey. We're not going to try to get in a fight.
Vegas also had a goalie standing on his head. Aiden Hill, that save that he made.
Both had goalies standing on their head going into this. Yeah, but that one save that he had was incredible.
It always feels like there's one big statement save that happens in the Stanley Cup Finals where that team goes on to win because it sucks all the way. They had a wide open net and made one of the best saves I've ever seen on the goal line.
It was dominant after that for the Knights. I like the Knights.
They're fun to watch. They are.
And they had the pregame, which was crazy. The lights and everything, and the Knight fighting a Florida Panther army and everything.
The pregame was fun. If you're a real hockey guy, I have to imagine the purists out there are like this last two minutes too long.
No, there's a dude who's sitting in like, you know, Manitoba being like, just drop the fucking puck. Drop the puck.
I don't care about Cirque du Soleil. Right.
I do care about Cirque du Soleil. I love the theatrics.
It was. I think also it's not as cool as it was the first time when they were new and it was, you know, they were in the final against the Caps.
And it was like, oh, my God, oh my god what is this now we all expected it also they are the favorite in this so it's like not as you know what i mean like they're set they they're expected to win this uh stanley cup but yeah i the whole my biggest takeaway was it might not work for the panthers to do what they've done to get here against a team like vegas that plays hockey and plays discipline and has, as Whitney said, huge D. Big D.
Big girthy D. Yeah.
He didn't like that joke for you. No, he did not.
That's probably because right before that I think I just asked him what was it like to lose the Stanley Cup. Yeah.
That was a little bit aggressive. But that was a curveball because usually it's like what was it like to watch your friends win the Stanley Cup? I actually never heard a player talk about what it's like to lose the Stanley Cup.
Yeah. Paul Maurice, the head coach of the Panthers after the game, he said the key is they have to breathe.
Yeah. So they're going to breathe.
Look for the Panthers to be sucking in more air, breathe in through the nose, out through the mouth, exhale, get the blood going. Well, and they also had, you know, Chuck has been the like heartbeat of the team and whitney mentioned him as well he had not a great game he had i think a 10 minute um misconduct to end the game but he also had a turnover for the game winner to make it three two so yeah they gotta breathe they gotta breathe they just gotta breathe i i would like to see this go seven i want to see an exciting stanley cup final to make up for what they've done for the most part in the playoffs yeah Yeah.
Which has been boring. Breathe and play hockey.
That would be my two tips to the Panthers. Don't worry about fighting.
Don't worry about, you know, trying to get in their head. Just play hockey.
I'm going to breathe. I'm going to remind myself to breathe more when I watch this game.
It's important. Really suck it all in.
It's important to breathe. So, Jake, your P's.
The P's. Go P's.
Down 0-1. But you hit a hole-in-one.
Yeah. So we have to mention that.
Crazy. You hit a hole-in-one today.
First one on this podcast. Well, I've hit four, but none of them are on video.
So those don't really count. I've got several in PGA 2K.
Yeah. Pixel Golf, I've actually hit probably like four or five.
So you guys have had hole-in-1? No, no, no. This was like I want you to talk us through it because it is for anyone who's like, oh, it's just a hole-in-1.
It's up there for things that you ask a guy who golfs, have you ever hit a hole-in-1? And most are like, no, I've not. I've played a ton of rounds.
I've never hit one. It's like the best thing that a man can do is get a hole in one.
Yeah. So congrats.
You were officially a man.

Yeah.

It's crazy.

Yeah.

My bar mitzvah does not count as turning me into a man.

This is it.

This is it.

You're a man now.

So talk us through it.

Were you just floating the rest of the day?

Yeah.

I had the worst back nine in my memory.

You shouldn't have posted your card with the eights.

It's real.

I know.

I want to clean that up a little.

Jake can't lie. Jake can't lie.

I can't lie. It was an awful

round and then I had the shot

and then afterwards I was horrific but that

does not matter. No one's going to remember.

I still can't believe

it's all I've been thinking about. It was incredible.
You have to buy

a surround of waters.

I'll go get them. You have to buy right? That's the rule.

Did you buy after? I bought rounds after

and it was on the eighth hole so at the halfway house I got eight Coors Lights. Two for the four of us.
Nice. Two for each of us.
Now, did you win? No. I was awful.
Yeah, but the hole in one. Yeah, that's all that matters.
Jake and I were talking earlier about if you're a PGA Tour golfer and you get a hole in one during a tournament, that might actually fuck you up mentally for the rest of your round. It screwed up.
The highest of the up. It was worse for my score.
But it still was a hole in one. That's why I don't hit him.
Now, you play a lot of golf. Hank, you also play a lot of golf.
Have you ever gotten one? I have not. Have you gotten this, Hank? Oh, interesting.
I'm very happy for Jake. I don't know why people were trying to turn this into a me-verse Jake thing.
Yeah, immediately. No, I mean, Jake is my father.
He wins everything. He got a hole-in-one.
I was happy for him. It's a long, long hole-in-one, too.
I was curious what the distance was. Sometimes, you know, not that it matters.
Hole-in-one's a hole-in-one, but it was a long, long earned hole-in-one. 187, which is a long part three.
I would hit driver. Yeah, five iron.
Just taking a little off it.. It's crazy.
Front pin had some wind with me. You'll always remember it.
I'll always remember it. And I have it on video, which is crazy.
You should go where? What course was this? This is Harbor Links on Long Island, Port Washington. We should go out and put a plaque up there.
I got a certificate. Yeah, but we should put a plaque.
We should put a plaque on a tree right there. Just being like Jake Mars.
Jake Mars, first hole in one ever hank has never gotten it jake's jake's big hole i could talk to some people okay well we could just go out there and just do it we've done it before with larry jake are you like a little bit worried that your golf career has peaked though it might have but i'll always have this yeah i feel like you had a peak i feel like it's you know once you get one the second one's gonna come floodgates open yeah that's what i've heard i heard they come in bunches i also liked uh because jake's been filming his rounds and posting them on social but he wasn't even filming this round he was just he just happened to film the par three yeah so i was going out with my friends usually i film the rounds when i go up by myself and i'm with randoms because i shoot and edit it for content you videotape random people no I only yeah I only got it myself for your own personal files yeah so there I'm like I'm not gonna film it I'll just enjoy it because like you have to worry about the angles and all that so it's more relaxing just to play and they're like at least do the part threes you never know I'm like okay fuck it's so awesome that you got on film that's because people would definitely not believe. Although I would personally believe you.
Right. I'd say most people would not believe you if you just said, yeah, I got it on one.
Although of everyone on this podcast, I think people would believe Jake. Of course they would.
It was funny because we started a lot of congratulations in the group text when we saw the video come out. And then Billy's initial reaction was like, can you see the ball, though, on the video? So Billy was actually the one that's was actually the one that's like I don't think that this is true you can't handle everyone else being happy about someone else I'm actually very happy for Jake Billy's very woke on it just a little skeptical like you only filmed that one I was at the playground with my kids and I was like I thought maybe you were calling the game on ABC today and I forgot so I fuck, I really fucked this up.
No, I'm sorry. It's good to know there was a hole-in-one.
I think guys are probably more likely to reach out to their friends and be like, congratulations when they get a hole-in-one than they are if you find out that you're going to have a kid. Yeah.
I mean, it was a cool moment. It was trending.
Congrats to Jake. Yeah.
Pretty fucking cool. Very cool.
Very, very cool. Thank you, guys.
All right. Do you want to talk about darts real quick, PFT? You went to darts.
It looked awesome. We can do a dart recap.
Yeah. I'm a real needlehead now.
Max, you can also recap. Yeah.
Max, where were you? Were you at darts? I didn't go. why not You went to the beach That's right Yeah

So not a darts fan

Everybody

Everyone was asking about Max

It was crazy

I went up to the bartender

And he was like

I heard

I heard that Max

Isn't coming to darts this year

Is that true?

Damn

And I was like

Unfortunately it is

I kept

Because I kept looking over my shoulder

To see if maybe this was a big bit

And that Max would show up

As the dart father

But you're

You're the

You're the absentee

You're a deadbeat dart father

Yeah

You stepped up

Thank you. looking over my shoulder to see if maybe this is a big bit and that max would show up as the dart father but you're you're the uh you're the absentee you're a deadbeat dart father yeah you stepped up i did i did step up i'm the i'm a dart father that stepped up it was it was so much fun if anybody has the opportunity to go see darts i highly recommend it now you have to be very drunk to enjoy it well that was so i had a ticket and i was thinking about joining and then so i was with my kids all day and then around seven o'clock when they went down to bed i looked at like i just scrolled through twitter and i was like yeah i'm just gonna be the only sober person showing up to like the greatest party ever yes and so i was like i'll just live with the fomo and realize that that was so much fun that's probably a good choice though you don't want to go to d Well, you're right.
And just showing up and being like, you guys have been having the best time of your life.

What if you kill the vibe?

Yeah.

I wouldn't want to kill the vibe.

Everybody was partying.

It was like a big costume party, too.

Everyone gets dressed up.

There were fights in the stands at darts.

We saw a bunch of guys dressed up as professional wrestlers.

A lot of people dressed as traffic cones for some reason.

I love it.

That might be a dart thing.

I'm not sure. But yeah, I'm in love with darts now now it took me like two games to figure out exactly what was going on and then michael van gerwin was just a fucking hoss yeah he is a machine he's like is is he the bad boy of darts he's just the best right he's the best and he's also the bad boy he's like an ultimate he's got just a great darts look because like there are professional athletes technically yeah and he he's not.
To be a professional. He doesn't look like one.
Where are they? Dartists? Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. To be a professional dartist, you have to either have a lumpy body or have a shaved head.
And it helps if you have both. He went up against this guy named Jeff in the final.
I don't know who Jeff was. He's a nobody from Canada.
He was just like this nice Canadian guy guy that caught fire nobody thought that he could win he was a plus ten thousand dollar underdog i just i saw those odds and i sprinkled on him on the plus ten thousand uh and i also bet on van gerwin so i was just happy for the darts i was just rooting for good darts yeah at the end it was so fun the crowd was absolutely buckled everybody was hammered there were people that were across the aisle that were just openly doing cocaine in the stadium. Jesus Christ.
It was a scene. It was crazy.
But I'm a dart fanatic. What can I say? I got to go back.
Darts is the one sport where I hope they never have a revolution of... You know, like when Tiger showed up on PGA and everyone started working out.
And even you go to baseball and like babe ruth was just hitting homers and like getting in the jiggly fat machine darts if darts ever like if we ever start seeing dartists with six packs and being like well actually the stamina it's better that i've been training like 365 let's hope that darts never gets to that yeah basically i think the best dart players are probably just the ones that jack off the most. They've got great elbows.
But it is funny too because I'm sure being in shape just makes you better at everything. But I hope not for darts.
I think there's probably some aspect to darts. I was thinking about this because you watch shooting in the Olympics.
And those people are all in fantastic shape. Probably because they're on skis a lot too.
But they control their heartbeats with their breathing. And so they they shoot in between heartbeats i bet there will be somebody like a fitness revolution that comes through darts that's like we got to get you training get you on the stairmaster someone who's listening to the huberman podcast exactly and all of a sudden he becomes the best dartist yeah i do cold plunge for nine hours every morning that's all my entire day is actually in a cold plunge and it makes me way way better at darts mean, it makes sense as someone who carries around 30 to 40 extra pounds.
It does make you mentally slower. Yeah.
It was just a blast. I can't wait to go again.
I don't know if Max is going to be back invited next year. There was somebody in the crowd showed up on the Jumbotron holding a sign that said, where is Philly Mays? And Max got so owned by that.
The whole crowd went nuts. And Max was convinced that he was a plant, that I had him write that on a piece of paper.
I still think that was your doing. It was not.
It was across the room. He was very far away from me.
That was just organic, Max. The whole crowd was talking about you.
What were you going to say, Billy? You may have said this, but I was looking at what they call a professional dart player. But were the dart players drinking during the game? No, they were drinking waters.
Oh. Could have been vodka.
Probably waters. Beta blockers and alcohol are banned in the Olympics for shooting, for, like, steadying the hand reasons.
Yeah, you're a beta blocker. That's how alpha you are.
Hell yeah. Yeah, big time.
I would, yeah, I agree with you, Big Cat. I don't want to live in an era with jacked up darts.
Yeah, like I could just see it because that's just how every sport is gone

where you have like an Instagram, like some guy who's a professional dart player

who has like 3 million Instagram followers and is doing like all kinds of weird workouts.

Yeah.

And like that would bum me out.

I want the dark guys to look like, basically I want the professional dartists to be guys that could hustle anyone at any bar and in in america at any point yep where they just show them you're like oh this guy no way yep i i also want their uniforms to get like less comfortable yeah because right now they wear kind of like professional bowler shirts yeah is what they wear i don't want to see like snug fitting jerseys i don't want to see that i don't see guy like roll want to see a guy like roll up with JNCOs next time. Yeah.
That'd be sick. There was a lot of pressure.
I felt a lot of pressure to step in Max's position because I am new to the sport and I knew that we had to get the party going. So I had to, I had to think of a speech before the dart walk and I didn't have anything prepared at all.
We got outside with about 15 minutes before darts and we were walking across the street and I turned around and I, the only thing I could think of was just to get people chanting

darts.

Yeah.

Works.

And so I just said like, give me darts one time.

And everybody goes darts.

Give me darts two times.

Darts, darts.

We did all the way up to four.

Then we started marching across the street.

Everybody was amped up.

People on the street were giving us high fives.

They're like, I don't know what this is, but it seems like a blast.

It's darts.

It's darts, baby. It's darts season.
Yeah. It was fantastic.
I did watching the clips online. It was just like it was basically like a bunch of drunk guys that had to keep reminding themselves what they were doing today.
Yeah. Like, we're here for darts, darts, darts.
Like, every like 20 minutes, a new video would pop up of everyone chanting darts. Like, just as a, hey, wait, why are we at this at this bar? Blackout drunk at 4 o'clock? Oh, yeah, darts.
There were a shitload of people wearing t-shirts that just literally said darts. I love it.
I love it. It looks so much fun.
It was fun. I'm going to try to do it some time.
At the end of it, I was so amped up that I was like, I'm going to start watching darts on TV. That's probably definitely why.
But when I'm in a town that has a darts event added, I am going to go to that darts event. Yes.
And we should start playing darts more in the new office. We should definitely start playing darts.
One overseas, like a championship or whatever, that's in Ireland or Britain would be. Maybe for a grit week.
Biblical. Darts.
Okay. Let's get to who's back of the week.
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CoorsLight.com slash take. Check them Coors Brewing Company Golden Colorado Coors Light dot com slash take check them out the it is summertime it's Coors Light season it is mountains being blue around the clock so go drink an ice cold Coors Light and tell them PMT sent you yeah at darts I ordered I went up to the bartender right before the dart walk and I wanted to get the party going so I said I'd like to buy every coors light and he's like well what do you mean i said every coors light that you have so he brought out a giant case of it the mountains absolutely bluer than they were last year love it love it so yeah it's a great season for the mountains probably they'll be talking about it like wine 2023 mountains there's something about it hit different there was there was something about that that crop uh okay hank who's back of the week my who's back of the week is skip bayless yes yeah he's back on the market uh there's a lot of rumors seem pretty confirmed that him and shannon are breaking up shannon's getting bought out after the nba finals end a lot of you know a little petty he's liking tweets saying skip's a piece of shit and that uh shannon's way better and skip's never We're going to be able to find another co-host.
You know, a lot of you know little petty he's liking tweets saying skip's a piece of shit and that

Shannon's way better and skip's never going to be able to find another co-host you know a lot of a lot of bad press coming out about skip wondering if he's even going to find a co-host I feel like this is what happened when him and Stephen A broke up and then he was fine with Shannon I feel like he they're going to find someone it's not going to be that big a deal yeah so. So they're going to find someone, but I think it might be the worst job in America.
To debate Skip Bayless every day? So there's been a lot of reports, and just to set the stage, you're in L.A. You have to get up at 3.30 in the morning.
I don't think Skip Bayless sleeps. We know he doesn't sleep in the same bed as his wife on the weekdays.
and it essentially has been like floated out there that skip is going to decide who it is and they have to be a skip punching bag like skip's not going to pick someone who can go toe to toe with him skip's going to pick someone that he can knock out in like the fifth round every single day it it comes with you know celebrity and money but i really do think it might be the worst job in America uh I think there will be people that are going to be lining up for it of course maybe no huge massive names I'll throw out a name LeBron oh just get LeBron on there and have skip debate LeBron about LeBron James every single day that'd be great I would fucking watch that show all the time it just wouldn't like you like even some of the people you can think of that could go toe to toe with Skip. Why would they take that job? If Skip is like, you have to come in here and let me just like ragdoll you.
Yeah. The waking up would be the big problem for me.
I'm officially taking my name out of the hat. I am as well.
Because of the early wake up time. I actually don't think that there's a single job in the world that I would do if it meant that I had to wake up at 3.30 in the morning every day.

Yeah, that's brutal.

Can't do it. Can't do it.
But Shannon. Although your days would be so open.
They would be, but then you just fall asleep. I know.
Shannon is probably going to have some offers either to do his own thing or ESPN. I think Shannon Sharp is actually very underrated as a co-host for Skip Bayless.
I think that when he first started he was just like basically screaming at skip um which is actually a great way to get the show going but uh i i think that he's probably going to have his pick of some pretty good jobs we're going to throw a shitload of money at him i'm just saying beware he might try to grab you from behind and pinch your elbow if you if you have long hair that's true he can't work with somebody long hair he'll get'll get too horny. That's true.
Yeah, no, he'll be fine. He'll be absolutely fine.
I just, I wouldn't want to, he obviously will have a co-host because someone will be like, it's basically like you can fix him. Like, oh, I can make Skip think that LeBron is good.
No. No.
Oh, I can't. I can make Skip think that Tim Tebow is bad.
Someone is going to take that job being like, no, no, no. I'll just bring salient points to the debate table every day.
It does not matter. If you just look at it under the pretense of the job description is you're going to have to try to talk sense into somebody who absolutely thinks that Tim Tebow could be a Super Bowl winning quarterback and that LeBron James is one of the most overrated players in NBA history, you would think that you were signing up to sit in a room with an insane person.
Yeah, it kind of is. Yeah, it really.
And he's definitely he definitely is insane. Nothing you say will change his mind ever.
I would like to see him maybe just debate his wife. Yeah, just have them just argue about just household.
I would actually watch skip debate anything. It's you're basically signing up to be like a reply guy on twitter that can be muted or blocked at any moment live on on television yeah uh okay good who's back mother who's back to his office amazon is coming out with an australian reboot of the office oh okay so i think it will be may not might not be that big in the u.s like Like it's just an Australian thing, but we'll see.

Now the time will tell of the office and current day.

I like listening to Australian people talk about anything.

Yeah.

Okay, but we'll probably miss some of the jokes.

Yeah.

A lot of them.

Is it a reboot or brand new episodes?

Are they doing cover episodes like the office did of the English version of the office?

I think it's the cover episodes. Are they doing cover episodes like The Office did of the English version of The Office? I think it's the cover episodes.
Are they doing it for Australia, or are they doing it for America with Australian accents? I believe they're doing it for Australia. Okay, yeah, so that's going to be tough to follow.
Yeah, I'm trying to think of the plot lines, how they would translate into being in Australia, not in Scranton, Pennsylvania. I don't know.
I'm going to give it a try. Yeah, definitely a scranton equivalent in australia oh of course i'm just saying there will be inside jokes that we will not get about australian culture also female michael scott oh i'm for it yeah it might even be better well no does that mean the female michael scott's gonna I don't know.
Or, yeah, is it misogynistic to have a female boss, but she sucks at her job? Oh, good point. I won't be watching for that reason.
It's problematic. I'm going to say it right now because girl bosses exist and they're great at their jobs.
So, fuck that. Yeah, they should redo it and have her be completely competent.
I think that would be a great show. Exceedingly competent.
It's just one episode. The paper gets made.
Fast. As long as you think they're going to do Scott's Tots.
I don't know. Like a school of aborigine children.
That would be funny. Yeah.
Okay, so we're in. But kind of.
Kind of. Depending on how powerful they make the woman.
Yes. All right, PFT or who's back? My who's back of the week is soccer.
Saudi Arabian soccer. The Saudi government has decided to inject $20 billion in order to develop the top Saudi clubs and give credibility to their league, and they started the spending spree off by getting Benzema.
Ooh. Ronaldo plays there, right? From Real Madrid, yeah.
Ronaldo plays there. Allegedly, Benzema's contract is for three years, $643 million.
Tough to pass up. Now, I saw reports earlier that it was going to be a two-year deal that was worth about $400 million.
But now, I guess they tacked on that extra year. That's going to be a supermax.
Nightmare for the. So, uh, basically they're just completely cucking the MLS model, which is just pay aging superstars.
Yeah. Fuck load of money to come finish out their career over here.
Uh, we can't, we can't compete with that. Although did you see there's a rumor that messy might go to Miami? Yeah.
Yeah. He's got, he's got ownership down there.
Yeah. That'd be sick.
Yeah, so this is, I mean, that's $643 million for a three-year deal.

Tax-free.

No state income tax down there.

Yeah, we always forget.

Yeah.

When we list Texas and Tennessee and Florida, Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia, too.

My other who's back of the week is breasts.

Oh.

Speaking of Stephen A. Smith, Skip Baylessless that whole thing breasts are back uh steven a smith has now dragged i think five days of content out of uh debating whether or not he likes breasts enough to drink breast milk and uh or loski said that he drinks it of course he does yeah uh so josh hart tweeted out that he tried his wife's breast milk when she was pregnant.
And then Stephen A. Smith was like, what is that? He goes, I like breasts.
You don't have to be a baby to like breasts. Matter of fact, one could easily argue that there are adults who like breasts more than babies.
I would agree with him on that. I would also agree.
I don't think that babies really like breasts nearly as much as most adults. Well, like newborns, I mean, the breasts keep them alive them alive yeah but sometimes they have trouble latching on yeah i've never met never met a dude that's had a problem latching on well it is pride month it is so but males have breasts too yeah i know but you think they latch it on yeah let's ask joey uh people forget that hank has drank breast cereal.
Was it delicious? No, it was gross. You finished the whole bowl, right? It was, yeah.
I was like, I think there's some rotten milk in the fridge. And they're like, oh, no.
The fact that you finished the whole bowl is the best part. I was like 12 years old.
Yeah, but you should have known better then. You're only like 11 years out of drinking breast milk.
Yeah, we were on a family trip.

It wasn't a fridge I was familiar with.

I was just trying to get some milk for my cereal.

I love the idea of Hank being perplexed by a new fridge.

Yeah.

Well, no, it was just like the milk was in a different bottle,

but I was like, oh, this is just vacation milk.

Vacation milk, breast milk.

All right, I got a few who's backs.

The first one is Joe Mazzulla. Joe Mazzula's back.
Did not get fired by the Celtics. Do we have comment from our Celtics fans? Yeah, I do.
We just signed Sam Cassell to the roster. Mazzula's like, he got a lot of flack during the playoffs, but people do forget that he came back down 0-3.
And he was down in the Sixers. He had to win those last two games to advance to the Eastern Conference Finals.
I'm pretty confident in him coming back. As a Celtics fan, Max, you know that that Sixers team was probably the best team in the NBA.
The Sixers team was really good. It was the best team in the NBA.
It took a really, really good coaching team. For Missoula to fight as hard as he did against those Sixers, that's like, yeah, you got to extend that guy.
That guy's Boston tough. Yeah, exactly.
Exactly. So I'm happy for my Cs.
I'm ready for the next year. Let's go green.
Hank was, I think, at one point looking for if there's a mute button of Max. Hank, thoughts on Max's thoughts? I mean, he's just a sad, sad human being.
Like, I don't, like, get over it. I don't understand this understand this i don't you know i told him before i was like i'm gonna bring up make sure you have something to chime in on we got sam pusell yeah there's coaching legend so yeah um and then uh related to my who's back that that who's back is uh mark zuckerberg because similar to joe mizzou he likes to practice some jiu-jitsu.
And there was a report that he got choked out during a competition. And then there was an update on the report that said – this is from Joe Bernstein, who I guess wrote it maybe in the New York Times.
Yeah. He said, update after publishing our story, I heard from both Mark Zuckerberg and his Brazilian jiu-jitsu coach.
They both insisted that Mr. Zuckerberg had not lost consciousness, and the coach said that the referee had mistaken his effortful grunting for snores.
So just so we're clear, Zuckerberg was not – at no point was he choked out. So everything that I've read on Facebook, all those posts are actually misinformation about Zuckerberg getting choked out.
That's how many people would sign up for jiu-jitsu if they knew that there was a chance that they would get to choke Zuckerberg out, though. But Zuckerberg, how do you not have a PR guy that be like, okay, we got a crisis.
There's a report that you got choked out. The last thing you want to do is have an update to the report being like, just so we're clear, we talked to multiple people.
He was never choked out. Because now I'm like, dude, the guy got choked out.
You don't have to update saying i wasn't choked out unless you were very clearly choked out if you get submitted by like a rear naked choke you got choked out yeah you you absolutely got his grunting was they thought his grunting were snores yeah his grunting was actually just he was just concentrating very he was breathing it's just breathing like the peas brutal thing to have to be like hey have to be like, hey, listen, it's the same as Danny Boy King getting attacked by a bear or the guy who didn't fuck his cat. Did not come on his cat.
He was nowhere near his cat with come. Billy.
Better PR spin. Why didn't you just say Zuckerberg didn't tap? Yeah, that's it.
That's way more badass. He refused to tap.
That's a good point. I would respect somebody more who just decided to go down with a ship and get choked out.
Jesus didn't tap. At no point.
At no point was Mark Zuckerberg choked out. Nope.
Not one iota. And then my last who's back is Golden Mug coming back Tuesday for Stella Blue.
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Who misreported that? Not me. Got it.
But it was misreported earlier in the weekend. He was only put on the Kansas City Crimestoppers list.
He's number five. But yeah, he's been put on there.
Wait, the Crimestoppers list? How close does he do it to the America? But that's also confusing. That would make him the number one Crime Stopper.
No, no, like the Crime Stoppers top 10. Right, but they got to rebrand that.
It does make it seem like he's a superhero. Yeah, like Chiefs of Holets.
He will stop any crime. Except for Jackson Mahomes.
Yeah. But good for him.
He's not been caught yet. Yeah.
Like, think about it. It is kind of crazy.
He's number five in Kansas City city which that's a little bit disrespectful to him either that or kansas city's doing a great job in terms of having like big criminals live in their town and not find them but i would think that he would be number one right he's a he's a bank robber who's on the run from being charged with federal i got a question there's some pretty bad dude i got a question been heard from? No. Because this is, I hope I'm never in this spot where I'm on the lam trying to run for my life, number one on the crime stopper list.
But if I am, I would like everyone here to make a pact with me that one of you, I'll kill myself and you hide my body. That way I live forever.
Okay. Because Chiefs Hall could be dead dead and you basically wouldn't know if he did a good enough job of hiding his own body like you you basically are a myth for the next 40 50 years yeah you live out your life and everyone assumes you're on a beach in mexico like at the end of shawshank right it's like he got it he got away right until like you're like you know 100 years old like ah he's probably dead but up until everyone's like, Chiefs of Holla could be back at any moment.
People start seeing you in the background of pictures that you're not in. It's like, that guy looks a lot like Big Cat.
I'll do the same for anyone here. Okay.
So if you're on the run and it's like, you got to run for the rest of your life, you just let me know where you want me to hide your body. We're really going to find out how committed he is to the Chiefs when football season rolls around.
Is he going to be able to stay away from Arrowhead? Or is he going to go in a different costume? You know what he should do? He should just become a Raiders superfan. Yeah.
And nobody will ever think that it's Chiefs a holiday. Get dressed up in the Darth Vader outfit.
Or the superfan of every team the Chiefs are playing. Yeah.
Just keep rotating. Rotating bases.
It's the perfect crime. That's not Chiefs a holiday.
He doesn't even like the Chiefs. He gets to watch all of the games.
He would probably actually rather kill himself than do that, though. Yeah.
Just keep rotating. Rotating bases.
Yeah. It's like knowing the perfect crime.
Yeah. That's not Chiefsaholic.
He doesn't even like the Chiefs. He gets to watch all of the games.
He would probably actually rather kill himself than do that, though. Yeah.
That's his level of dedication. It's pretty nuts.
He has about a quarter of a million dollars in gambling winnings from the Chiefs Super Bowl win. And he's probably in Mexico.
But how did he get that once he was... I think he was able to cash out legally while he was in court because he wasn't guilty yet.
But he probably can't use his credit or debit cards, right? He has to have cash on them. I'm not sure.
They're basically forcing him to rob more banks. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay.
In my other Who's Back is a 2008 Florida team. Mm-hmm.
They're making a Netflix special on them. Nice.
Like we said, they should. I guess is Urban Meyer probably won't talk for that.
No, probably. Well, it's a documentary, right? Yeah.
So they are getting interviews. Matter of fact, most people that are involved with that team, you probably can't get an interview with to talk about that team.
Yeah. Riley Cooper should talk.
He should. He should do all the talking.
Yeah. That's why he's back.

Aaron Hernandez can't talk.

Yeah, that's going to be a great one.

That's going to be an incredible.

Dan Bilzerian can talk, but he'll make them sign NDAs.

They won't be able to use it in the footage.

They might get Ryan Lochte just to comment because he's around.

Yeah, that would be cool.

Bilzerian might talk.

I mean, he was just there.

Yeah.

He'll definitely lie. He'll just make up stories.

So there's one time I fucked Tim Tebow's girlfriend. Yeah.
I'd just come back from Afghanistan. Yeah.
He'll definitely lie. He'll just make up stories.
So this one time I fucked Tim Tebow's girlfriend. Yeah.
I just come back from Afghanistan. Yeah.
Okay. Jake, your who's back? My who's back? The defending champion Waterdogs Lacrosse Club.
Yeah. Opening day, overtime winner, Connor Kelly, 1-0.
Undefeated. I'm calling it.
Our goal this season is to go undefeated.

There's 10 regular season games.

Anything less than undefeated is a failure.

I watched the whole game.

I wish we scored more.

We should shoot more, which I've been saying since day one.

But, yeah, good job on the Water Dogs.

Yeah.

They did it.

Also, I'm calling one of their games July 14th.

Beautiful.

Yeah.

Are you going to wear pants?

Yes.

Yeah, we heard you don't wear pants. I heard that.
A lot of people have reported that you don't wear pants what is it is it like a kink it's just comfort okay yeah more airflow yeah that makes sense thank god you had pants on for your whole one yeah was there any part of that video you take back um no i thought your celebration was good it was like it's a raw reaction yeah right it's running in circles i don't know what to do with myself yeah i can't believe it happened i can't i can't believe best golfer on the show yeah not even close not even close not the not the person who gulfs the most on this show but the best golfer best one here yep best in the office best one office. Best one here.
Okay, let's get to our interview. Rich Eisen in studio.
Great interview with Rich. Haven't talked to him in like four or five years.
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Okay, we now welcome on recurring guest, friend of the show. It is Rich Eisen.
You can watch the Rich Eisen show. You can see him on NFL Network.
You can see him in what seems like every show that needs a cameo. Billions.
Sure. Law and Order.
No, I've never done a Law and Order. CSI Miami.
CSI Miami. That's Law and order.
Once you go Caruso, you can't go anything else.

You can't go Hargitay?

I'm a much bigger fan of Hargitay.

I understand.

I never had an opportunity to Hargitay.

I had an opportunity to Caruso twice.

Yeah.

And I still got residual checks.

Oh, God.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

So we haven't seen you in, I think it's been like four years or so since you've been on.

Yes.

Super Bowl.

Yeah. Couple Atlanta Super Bowl.
bowl yeah couple apologies on my behalf uh michigan did turn out to be back so congrats on that still haven't won a playoff game uh yeah which seems like something you want to do eventually if you keep getting there true uh and we watched all of game of thrones and liked it so So there you go. I did tell you about that, right? Two big apologies right on that.
I totally forgot about that. Well, no, because Rich told us to get into it, and then the last season happened.
Yeah, that's true. Last season was subpar.
Game of Thrones. Yes.
Last season, yes. I'm happy to be blamed for the last season not being up to the first several.
Yeah, if you go back and you look at that interview, I bet we actually come across looking like huge assholes for the game. We're like, Oh, you like your dragon show? A little dragon.
It's all good though. Yeah.
It's called evolution. I mean, look at you guys now when I first was on the show, you were not who you are today.
I mean, your father now, you look like you look like you do look like you're paying attention to your personal hygiene. Yes.
Better. When you at least admit that.
Yes, absolutely. Shower every day.
You're frozen in time. Yeah.
No, I thought you were about to say. No, you haven't evolved at all.
I thought you were going to say, yeah, you guys have evolved. When I was on the show, it was actually funny.
I'm sure your bank account has evolved, though. Yeah.
So you guys are now a completely different spot. Well, no, I have a fictional son, Chris.
Oh, really? He's four. He's actually a live fan.
He's thinking about becoming a fan, defecting to Smash away from the four aces. Is he a huge live fan because he watches the CW? Oh, yeah, he loves One Tree Hill.
Okay, very good. But congrats on Michigan.
Thank you. You guys beat Ohio State two years in a row.
It's great. It's really good.
It's great. So are you a little nervous, though, that Jim Harbaugh is going to leave? Because he eventually is going to leave.
No, that's part of the landscape with him is that he's going to kick the tires on the NFL. He might actually play more than just footsie, like, say, on a national recruiting day two years ago with the Vikings.
And then last year got even closer. And if he leaves, then, you know, I hope he winds up in a spot that makes him happy.
And we'll be, and we hopefully will find somebody like Luke fickle. I told you prior to the, you know, our taping here, I think he's awesome.
And all Wisconsin fans will not know what to do with themselves when like a fifth wide receiver steps on the field, once yes yeah like five quarterbacks now probably better than every quarterback not named russell wilson it's going to be amazing yeah it will be so i'm concerned about that the message boards are going to be very funny though if once wisconsin loses like a close game to arrival there will be somebody on a message board that says we got to bring the fullback back what's this about why aren't we running the football anymore yeah it's what nebraska's gone through for the last 20 years why are we passing on fourth and one yeah well you're going for it on fourth and one as opposed to previous years that's number one yeah number you're you luke fickle i love him again as i said i'm sure he's been on this show multiple times he's funny he's engaging he's young he's exactly who wisconsin should be going for now do you have an apology for me? What should I apologize for? Your basketball coach being a petulant child and smushing the face of my basketball coach. Well, that's two years ago.
Okay, well, we haven't seen you in four years. So I apologize on behalf of...
Juwan Howard? Juwan Howard. Not very Michigan man of him.
Well, your guy got in his face. Oh, handshake.
Yes. No coach has ever handshaked after a game.
Are we really litigating this again? We haven't seen it in four years. I would have dusted off my memory bank on this.
Yeah. We haven't seen it in four years.
We have a file that we keep for every recurring guest of grievances that we have. And then we unseal the grievances when they come back on the show.
Just say he's not a Michigan man. I would never say such a thing.
Why would I say such a thing? Because Michigan men do not act like that. Well, he had a momentary lapse of reason.
How does that sound? Okay. So I apologize that your coach got too aggressive on a handshake line.
That's, again, see, this is not very Michigan man of you like. Which is what? It sounds like, if anything, a firm handshake should be something that's applauded amongst a Michigan man.
Yeah. Understood.
Yes. It was aggressive.
He should not have laid hands on your coach. Again, a handshake.
It should not have been anything escalating to anything remotely close to what it did. Actually, you know what? You are sounding like a Michigan man, just skirting all blame and being like someone else's fault.
He shouldn't have done it. He shouldn't have done it, but that's what I said at the time, too.
Had I come on the show then as well, I would have said it. I'm trying to think of other grievances we would have against Michigan.
Would you like to apologize for Kid Rock? So anybody that's from the state of Michigan? Yeah, he's Michigan. He's Michigan State.
He's probably dated a stripper named Ann Arbor before. It is possible.
No, I have nothing to do with Kid Rock at all. You disavow Kid Rock.
I disavow Kid Rock. That was a trap question.
What about Ted Kaczynski? I totally disavow him. Okay, all right.
Is he from Michigan too? No, he went to Michigan. He got a PhD from Michigan.
Did you just Google that? Yeah, I did. I knew he did, but I had to double check.
What did you Google? Psychopaths who went to Michigan? No, I just said Ted Kaczynski. Okay.
And he went to Michigan for his PhD. Yeah.
That's where he learned how to kill people. Didn't run into him on the quad or at the quad or in the Diag.
Okay diag okay didn't see him at the hash bash okay didn't see him anywhere like that at all what about hunter dickinson trying to hold the entire college basketball world hostage for like a month you want to apologize for that um i can't imagine that you are drilling down deep right yeah we're drilling down really deep you didn't realize the trick i did is i came out and apologized right away and then it like, well, now the rest of the interview is just trying to find ways for you to apologize. I'm apologizing for Hunter Dickinson holding up the transfer portal.
Yes, correct. Is that what you're saying? Yes.
Then, yes, I apologize for that. I accept your apology.
We uphold the dignity of the portal. Understood.
How dare anybody gum up the portal? Patrick can't lay of the transfer portal everyone just jammed up behind and trying people are got their their iphones timing how long it is yeah what about memes what about ann coulter she's a michigan man michigan ma'am is she really yeah she's a michigan ma'am wow yeah i just about her too okay all right good absolutely we're getting out. I had no idea.
Who do you avow? Who is the most prestigious Michigan alum? Who do I avow? Tom Brady. Okay.
Yeah. Okay, I like him.
Adam Schiffen. That ends all conversations.
It really does. It does.
Tom Brady is a conversation ender, and it's great. I love it.
I love putting that card on the table. But you guys didn't treat him well.
We treated him. Drew Henson.
Well, Drew Henson, listen, Drew Henson at the time was Mr. Michigan in multiple sports.
And clearly, if he was going to go anywhere, Michigan was the spot to go. And eventually Lloyd Carr came around.
I was at a game in Syracuse, actually, one time when Brady and Henson split quarters. split quarters it's crazy i've never seen anything like it and it was clear who was the better quarterback at the time so yeah i i wish brady but at least he didn't leave to go find his his spot like say joe burrow all ohio state fans pardon me the ohio state fans who claim burrow is one of their own and well he thanked ryan day when thanked Ryan Day when he won the trophy, when he won the Heisman Trophy.
He talks about how great it was at Ohio State all the time. Like, he had to leave.
No, you have to play at least a year. You have to play at least a year to claim anyone.
Or play and get your moments at the school that you're trying to claim him for. No, I agree.
I mean, get out of here. I agree.
That's loser talk by OSU. Like, how many NC State fans claim Russell Wilson? I would if I went to NC State.
I think that's a 50-50, yeah. It's a coin flip? Yeah, that's okay.
Well, like, to Russell Wilson now, he's NC State. The Super Bowl winner, that was Wisconsin.
It's pretty easy. If you go to NC State, really, you can hang your hat on two things.
One, Chuck Amato's sunglasses, which were awesome. Chuck Amato's sunglasses.
Great fantasy team name, by the way. Oh, yeah.
And then the second thing you could say is, like, we are QBU. Yeah.
And then you list off Jacoby Brissett, Phillip Rivers, and Russell Wilson. Look at you.
And Mike Glennon. Mike Glennon.
Come on. How could I forget? Mike Glennon made a lot of money.
Warren Sett once referred to him on game day morning as Mick Glennon. Like McLovin.
We stopped. What we stopped like what did you just call him mick mick glennon yeah uh it's actually a fun hypothetical if if the nil and transfer portal existed today yes tom brady he probably transfers no i think he's a michigan man through and through and those who listen there's a sign there it says those who stay will be champions right but i think he stayed but now he's a seven-time super bowl winner in the goat and it's a conversation ender it ends the conversation how long do you have to stay to become a champion um sometimes a little longer than expected uh-huh yeah but that's a sign maybe he just michigan he probably appreciated the environment and the education that he was getting at michigan i would agree yes the diploma that's on the wall the wall.
If you stay long enough, we will invite the YMCA from Detroit and beat them,

and we will be champions.

That's kind of what they say.

Yes.

All right, so I have a real question for you.

Oh, really?

Apology's over.

I didn't realize you are a voter in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

I am not.

Okay, you're not.

So here's another question.

So you're right. Is that the same Google as Ted Kaczynski went to Michigan? So Big Cat's right.
I'm right. He didn't realize that you were a voter.
Yeah, I didn't realize. You're not.
I am not a voter. Are you part of the – what do you have with the Pro Football Hall of Fame? Do you not – I emcee their jacket dinner every fall.
Do you ever aspire to be the one who knocks? No. Okay.
Because that means I've got to get on a plane. I don't go places.
But knocking would be cool. Knocking would be good.

I wouldn't mind knocking.

All right.

So do you know anyone who's a Pro Football Hall of Fame voter?

I think Peter King is.

And what did he say that's like?

I'm still going to go with my question.

I'm going to go forward with my question.

I mean, he says it's kind of cool.

Okay.

All right.

All right.

Cool.

So where are you going to go?

I was going to ask.

Let's do it again.

Let's do it again.

Go ahead.

I don't know why I thought that, but I always wanted to know what happens in that meeting where they all sit and debate players' legacy for an entire Saturday. And they're like, okay, yeah, this guy's good.
I heard it. Well, they used to do it the Saturday before the Super Bowl.
They don't do that anymore. Yeah.
They do it a few weeks. So now they do a few weeks in advance.
So now the knocks on the door are fully produced with multiple cameras. You know, they used to shoot it like it was a sweepstakes winner at the door.
Now it's multiple cameras and what have you. But I don't know if that's the answer you're looking for.
I have no insights. I have zero insights on that.
I think there's probably some players that we could start standing on the table for. Okay.
Brian Mitchell should be in the Hall of Fame. Devin Hester.
Devin Hester should be in the Hall of Fame. Should be in the Hall of Fame.
Brian Mitchell, I think he has the most return yards ever. Maybe the second most all-purpose yards in the history of the NFL.
Yeah, but he's not getting in the Hall of Fame. Why not? Because I don't think return men get in the Hall of Fame.
Except for Devin Hester. Devin Hester should, and he hasn't yet uh barstool's uh own deon sanders yeah i'm sure you've had him on to talk about it he gets really upset when it comes to this issue about very hester yeah yeah i mean if you're the best player at your position all time you should be in the hall of fame it's very few people will deon say to about someone else saying that guy was better yeah yeah and Yeah.
And he says that about Devin about returning. Right.
And he would know a thing or two about returning. And then he loves Devin Hester.
He took him in as a kid. And then the night that Devin broke his return record was on NFL Network.
And Devin was in the building in Atlanta, which was just amazing. Perfect moment.
And also, well, I'm sorry that I'm pounding the table for his guy and not yours right now. That's whatever.
But the Super Bowl against, obviously, the Colts. The Colts, yeah.
Where the entire universe was thinking, will Devin Hester get a ball to return, let alone return one that he does actually get? And the Colts mysteriously kicked him to lead the game off, and he did it. It's truly one of the greatest expectation meeting moments I've ever personally witnessed.
I'd agree. Ever.
Like, unreal. When it became a point of emphasis for each team to, like, do not kick to Devin Hester, and then a kicker would make a mistake.
He would just deliver.

It was just wild to watch that happen.

I've never seen anything like that happen.

It was like the Matrix.

I couldn't believe he did it.

And then to use the succession phrase, Rex fucked it.

Yeah, he did.

As soon as that happened.

He did.

The very next minute, it was over.

Yeah, well, it was raining.

It was raining.

Yeah, his hands didn't really work.

Prince performed in the rain.

That was the best halftime show ever. Oh, yeah, that was incredible, too.
In the purple rain doesn't get any better than that. And also the press conference the Thursday before, where he took no questions but actually played two songs for the hard-bitten, cynical media that was was there and then everyone was getting up and dancing yeah that was unreal yeah to get guys like your peter kings standing up and clapping along to something besides bruce springsteen it's huge rhythmically yeah he was clapping on on the twos it was really impressive all right so what what is the your favorite thing you do in your job because you do so much stuff um i do love doing my show every day because it's something i own now and do but outside of that it's the draft yeah there's nothing like the draft it is the best it is the best it is all it's wild how um something that is essentially just the reading of names over a three-day period is so transfixing.
It is something that I get into. I totally geek out about it.
I do not care what anybody else might say. I think it's unbreakable.
It's something as long as everybody wants to actually gather around a television set for three days and watch an event where the power brokers are not physically there it's the only thing in the nfl calendar where nobody's there except the commissioner to read off names i love it i love it it's the transaction of hope you just sit there and you get hope you you you get delivered hope for your team over and over even if it's you trade down and you get picks in the future it's hope. How many Bears fans had heard of Darnell Wright before the moment they heard his name? I actually had him as my number one prospect.
You did? Across all positions. I did.
PFT will back that up. Is that a true story? Yeah.
He had Wright. I had Forbes 1A.
Yeah. Okay.
Understood. So we have a little bit of a different draft board.
I mean, people are saying Bryce Young. It's like, quarterback's not that important.
So yeah, Darnold Wright was number one. Yeah, is Bryce Young too short? Yeah.
How about that? Oh, you really were asking me if he's too short? Yeah, is he too short? I have no idea. Do you? No, because his eyes are tall enough.
Everybody says the SEC is the ninth division of the NFL. Yeah.
Didn't seem to bother him there, did it? No, but we've got a theory on this show. Apparently some NBA teams are starting to do this.
They don't measure to the top of the head. You measure to the eyes.
Right? Because who cares how tall somebody's forehead is? Right. It's wasted space above the eyes.
So Bryce has tall eyes. So I think he'll be fine.
Impressive. I never thought of it that way.
I mean, think about it. He's got the eyes of a 5'11 man.
Like, why would you need the forehead space? Right. You don't.
But doesn't Peyton Manning destroy that theory? So we've talked about that. His forehead was, it got larger as he got older, as happens to a lot of us.
No, that was his wife doing that. Yes.
Yeah, that's true. I don't think that's a thing, that your forehead gets bigger as you get older.
Barry Bonds? Yeah. Well, I mean, your hairline makes your forehead look bigger.
Conor McGregor's skull looks a lot bigger right now. Okay.
Well, he's taken many hits. I don't think it was this.
Good one. Good one.
I like it. I saw your hot takes for this upcoming football season.
I did. My hot take.
Well, Rich said five teams he thinks are going to make the playoffs. That are new.
I was about to come in hot. I was just going to say, I think 14 Chiefs.
Lions were one of them, which I think we can all probably agree. I think they win the division.
They're poised to make the playoffs. Jets make sense.
But then you had Rams, Steelers, Falcons. Yes.
Steelers, I actually think, makes sense.

Falcons is a little out of left field.

Falcons, that division's completely wide open.

Who do you think wins it?

The Saints?

Just because they got Derek Carr?

I mean, I need to see what that looks like.

Kamara might not play all year at all, depending on what happens.

I kind of like Ritter, but I really like Heineke.

I feel like Heineke's probably going to start a few games this year.

He might, but I know he's a fan favorite in many different ways, but is he really going to – I don't know. I kind of think that it's going to be Ritter.
I kind of think they're going to get that opportunity. I like what they did on defense, and I like the coach.
Yeah. You ever had the coach on this show? Yeah, we have.
Arthur Smith's a good friend of ours. We fixed his whole look.
When you say good friend, what do you mean? We text with him pretty regularly. Okay.
Yeah. So good friend.
He's a good friend category. Basically, whenever we say something mean about his face, he'll send us a text and be like, hey, guys, that was messed up.
Yeah. I was listening to that.
Well, his face needs to be told to smile. Well, it's not that.
It's the chin or lack thereof. Really? Yeah.
But we've worked on it. He grew a beard for a little bit.
So he's looking better. You know, you've got to respect him in many different ways.
The one thing is he doesn't have to do what he's doing. Right.
That's true. That's very true.
He could be in the Maldives right now doing whatever the hell he wants to do. That's very true.
And instead, he's making sure Heineke's up to speed if Ritter fails. Yeah.
What is he? It's impressive. You know what, Rich? I've never noticed this about you.
You are a good chin guy. You've got a great chin.
Well, okay, thank you. Yeah.
And a good beard. You should maybe donate to Arthur Smith.
That's all I got left, man. Yeah.
That's it. You got some hair.
Nah, not much. On the side.
It's okay. Have you thought about going just straight dick? Dion going straight what? What'd you say? Dick? Oh.
I just wanted to remember what you said. Yeah, no, I heard that too, Rich.
Yeah. Well, you can answer it either way you want.
Full on ball. Like nothing.
No, I've never thought that. I have thought the other direction, which is Dion wanting me to get the fake hair guy to work on me.
I have actually given that thought. You should do that.
Orlacher's guy? I don't know. Orlacher's, same guy, yeah.
Yeah. Restore or whatever it is, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, the fully shaved is always a tough, because you basically have to straddle the fence of like, is he a white supremacist? I don't know if anyone ever misconstrued me with one.
You see a guy with a fully clean shaven head, and you kind of do a stop. You're like, wait, okay, he's just bald.
Do you think that about Van Pelt? Yeah, of course. He's got some very toxic ideas.
Until he explained to us, it's actually, it's a symbol, it's a Hindu symbol that he has tattooed. Okay.
Yeah, and then I was like, oh, that makes sense. Okay, you're a religious historian.
Understood. Okay.
Just trying to think of other completely shaved, bald head guys. Jay Glazer? Glaze.
Yeah. Dude, he's like the Jew bear.
Yeah, I know, but. He's not a white national.
I'm just saying, like, there is, when you see a guy with a fully shaved head, you do have to pause and be like, what happened here? Yeah. So I've paused, and I'm not going to do that.
Okay. I have given thought to the other direction, but it just would be weird.
It would be so weird. It would be weird.
I don't know. You should do it.
You think? Go through a midlife crisis on it. Just go fully through it.
Right in the middle of my show. Leather jacket.
Right around 1.30 Eastern. Yeah.
Have a total complete breakdown where I start revealing problems with my life, personal,

professional.

I air all grievances.

And then on live Rich Eisen show air, get the process, get the procedure.

Some TRT.

It'd be great for ratings.

You think?

Yeah. It would.

It would be.

Interesting.

Do you have any grievances you'd like to air? Right now? Yeah. Do you have any beef with anybody? Ooh.
Who's Rich Eisen's biggest enemy? I don't have one. I don't think.
You got someone that's pissed you off. That's pissed me off.
Yeah. Or maybe a storyline or something about media.
Trait of media. Trait of media.
The way the media talks about something. Huh.
Well, yeah. I mean, the obvious one is, you know, the way the media talks about something huh well yeah i mean the the obvious one is you know the way that the rest of our sports world talks about things in complete absolutes arguing with each other yelling and screaming i mean that's why your show in many ways is so popular is the two of you guys get along and it's fun it's fun watching friends shoot the shit that's why pti is is as good as it gets yeah but the arguing and the the screaming and the yelling and just knowing the next morning when lebron screws it up that somebody's just going to go all in on him and mj's better and then and then making sure yeah well that's yes if you want to have that conversation i would we just did yeah yeah it's over yeah right it's better we just had it i mean complete yeah um but then then not caring about being right just wanting to be heard then let's invite that person on the show to hash it out and then you know if i would be that person now i'm lending my platform uh to legitimize theirs and that's the sort of cycle that this thing goes in.
And if I don't go on your show, then I'm weak. I won't respond.
I won't come back. I won't own what I've said.
That's sort of toxic stuff in our business that sucks. But it sells.
It does. I'm not going to say it doesn't.
But I'm doing something complete opposite every day. What about when Ross Tucker gets on your show with your name on it and says something stupid about how great Princeton football is? Then do you ever think about having Ross Tucker back on to defend his take? Well, that's Dan's show, PFT.
Oh, he doesn't do your show? No. I thought I've seen him on your show.
By the way, I'm a pro football Hall of Fame voter Dan Patrick here on Pardon My Take.

I just assume that Ross Tucker fills in for everybody's show when they're gone.

No, it's Dan's guy.

Would you have Ross Tucker on the show?

Sure.

Who's your main villain?

It's my wife.

Okay.

She fills in.

Who else is filled in?

Albert Beer's filled in?

No, Tom Pellicero is filled in.

Okay.

Handful of other guys.

I don't like getting out of my chair. Right.
I like doing like doing it. We kind of feel the same way on this show.
We enjoy doing our show, even though we've done it seven years, which in the grand picture of things is not that long to do. You've been doing your show.
You've been on TV for what? 27 years. 27 years? But you still have that feeling like you don't want to let somebody else take your job to let somebody else take your job even for a second you're a control freak if you do it we're doing you're a control freak yeah how many days in a row have you like what's the the record number of days in a row you have recorded at least one version of this show for hank uh three for you guys um well i mean there's days that we only release three times a week.
Yeah. I release one a day.
Right. Yeah.
Right. Wow.
Bonk. What do you think, like, retirement any time? No.
Jesus. Really? What's the matter with you? I'm 53.
No. I don't know.
I would like to be retired by 53. No, I'd like to work less.
I mean, but I love doing what I'm doing every day. And plus, whenever I'm out of the chair, I notice, you know, my show is a podcast version.
And also there's YouTube. And there's various different ways to distribute it other than just Roku every day.
You know, it's a drop off. So I don't like getting out of the chair.
So, but is there a moment, are you worried at all about reaching a moment where you feel maybe out of touch? Like you get to a certain age well i come on here to show i'm in touch yeah i'm not saying you're there i'm just saying that is something i think about where it's like there will be a moment where it's like oh i kind of miss this story or i i don't know what people are thinking anymore really yeah no yes you're setting what people are talking about right but it definitely happens to everyone. You can't stay young forever.
Right. So that just doesn't even enter your thoughts.
No. Honestly, it doesn't.
I don't. I do think about the way the business goes and what is of interest to people and how they consume it.
And will that pass me by? I don't know. That's the sort of stuff i think about right you know where where um you know how old are your kids now uh four two and newborn okay so they're gonna start watching things on a phone like for me i'd be like get out of here right but that's that's it and then anything that's 30 seconds to 45 seconds long for them is a show right you know for me it's you know a distraction right so that's that's the way the world is going and that's the way people are consuming their stuff you know on demand you know how many how many live shows have you guys done i no idea like actual live shows like like let's turn the cameras on and what you said never we live stream right sure but no are you mean like a live part of my take? Yeah.
No. We've never done one.
Do you want to do it? Not really. No, because we sit down, we write the show for three hours before.
So this has all been scripted. Like when Big Cat, I was like.
So where does the research come in? You've already asked me incorrect questions multiple times. No, that's part of the beauty.
I sat down this morning. I was like, Big Cat, you should ask him about his Hall of Fame vote because he doesn't have one.
So it's his fault? That's going to get him uncomfortable.

Yeah, yeah.

But that's fine.

We navigated it perfectly.

Is there a post meeting where you're like, why did you give me that if it was wrong?

No, we crushed that portion of the show.

So there's a job well done by us.

I think a live show could be fun to do at some point.

But the way that we tape the show sometimes is out of order.

Like, this isn't going to come out for another few days.

Or never running this. See, I'm the exact opposite.
It's weird for me to do something on tape. Yeah.
Yeah. Cause I, I love doing it live and I love not rehearsing and I love just getting out there and, um, and then being done with it.
Yes. That's what I like.
I think our other thing, which we love having is the ability to tape late at night and be in people's phones when they wake up in the morning don't really want to wake up at four in the morning but that's that's why you guys many reasons why you're successful is again that the number of times i've been told hey big moment just happened just shoot something on your phone and post it and i'm like you know i got shit to do you know i've got three kids i've got two jobs i got lots going on so i'm just gonna let me pull over to the side of the road and do this and the answer i get back is yeah yeah like that's that's the way of doing things like that's that is the way people consume things now. And that's where I catch myself.

And I'm like, yeah, like pull over to the side of the road and do this thing and just send it in. And then you're done with it.
And that's. You push back at that.
Yes, of course I do. I do.
I'm like, you know, it's not like the Truman Show where I'm going to have somebody follow me around. And my whole life is on TV.
and I know that's the complete extreme of just pull over to the side of the road

and shoot something for two and a half minutes and hit send and we'll handle the rest that that to me is that's my concern not that i'm out of touch about what people are talking about right as long as i still do what i'm doing every single day and watching the shows that i'm watching that i think people are watching also and um music and and and movies i think i'm in tune on that front yeah it's the other stuff about hey you know let's let's come up with rich eyes and plus well what is that well we'll do this and that and some other people will pay you this money to get plus i'm like what the fuck is plus like everything's

plus now there's an nfl plus yeah you say in succession living plus like there's always a plus yeah so that like if i don't keep up with the pluses then maybe you're a minus look at you look at that you know math damn that's impressive a little bit uh rich i remember back in 2013 you invented

was it there was an app that you put out

I think you A little bit. Rich, I remember back in 2013, you invented, was it, there was an app that you put out.

I think you invented Tinder, right?

You did?

No, it was.

You invented Tinder.

Again, I didn't invent Tinder.

This was like 2013.

Yes.

I remember when the app came out, you invented a dating app for sports fans to find fans

of their favorite sports teams.

And start talking to them online and take it to the real world. That happened.
I invaded that app in 2013. And how'd it go for you? Well, I wrote a blog post about it, and so I was out there trying to find women that wanted to talk to me about whether or not Joe Flacco was elite.
And it was- What'd you find? It was a fertile nesting ground, my friend. For your sex life or for your Joee flacco conversation joe flacco okay i didn't get laid off of it uh but i remember when it came out i was like oh shit rich rich is inventing a dating app right now can you walk us through what that was like where that came from it was a pr guy that i was with at the time he's just like you got to do something other than just what you're doing plus yes exactly and he came up with this idea and i'm like okay but you know i'm married with three kids like that might be the last guy to be the face forward of like come on and hook up through your love of the ravens you know i mean so maybe that's why it didn't work or everything else just kind of sucked about it.
But that burned out real quick. Did you use the app at all? I did not use the app.
That's the other thing is they wanted me to be on it like, hey, watch a football game on the app and go back and forth with people. Yeah.
And I love when people call into my show. I love this.
You know, I did stand up back in college, so I always liked the immediate feedback of saying something, but I just couldn't bring myself to just get online and just chop it up. I just couldn't do it.
Sounds like you basically invented a message board with actual chicks, not just dudes being dudes being like i'm a chick i don't think

there's a there's let's just put it this way i think there's a germ of an idea in there yeah it exists yeah i just didn't know how to freaking do it and i probably am like the last guy you'd want to be you know hey come on in here i think the idea is just and go hook up i think it's not like men seeking women. I think it's men seeking other men.
It could be. Kind of like a grinder slash sports fan.
Could be that. Where you're like, I just want to find some bros that we can like debate whether like Joel Embiid can win a championship or not.
Well, if you recall when you got through the initial portal and it was fast because I understand your problem with slow portals. Yes.
you were able to choose who you were looking for which gender you were looking for yeah at the top so i'm telling you it's there it exists guys it exists yeah just to get into a sports debate with yeah just like a random an app to meet up or we had the idea on the show a few years ago just an app where you can meet up with a guy to fight if you want want to just go fight in a park. Get the aggression out.
Jay Glazer would actually be a great face for that. He would be.
He would. Yeah, and his gym.
Get glazed. Yeah.
Glazed plus. Glazed plus.
What are your expectations for Aaron Rodgers and the Jets? They are very high. Really? Yeah.
So, Super Bowl? No, because nothing that good can happen to me right or jets fans it's just you know let's just put it this way um the bar that farve set in this situation which is win eight of your first 11 then sorely disappoint both on and off the field yeah right then that that's and then not make the playoffs and then use it as a transfer portal for you to work out your own revenge um strategy against the Packers that's that's the bar I have a feeling Rogers will leap that bar I agree despite how um tough the schedule is but this is a better roster and a better coaching staff than the one that Favre inherited and again I'm using that as the example for obvious reasons and so I do believe this team will make the playoffs and I think we'll win a playoff game and we'll be at least that fourth seat in this game of musical chairs that three of the seats seem to be occupied every year in the final four in the AFC with Burrow, Allen, and Mahomes. Two years ago, that was Tannehill's seat.
Last year, it was Trevor Lawrence's seat. I see no reason why that can't be Roger's seat.
Now, speaking, you know, the three of us, we are not, let's just say we don't really know what good quarterbacking looks like. That's fair to say, Jets, Bears, and Commanders.
Is there a small party that will feel a little dirty kind of betraying uh there's there's like a brotherhood of franchises where it's like no we'll never have a quarterback do you feel like you betrayed that a little like would you even know like when you're watching the jets and aaron rogers makes a competent yes throw yeah like what would that will look like yeah what it will feel i have no idea You're going to watch Good Office. If you know anybody, like I might have to reach out to people who are used to seeing high-quality quarterback play in their spot.
I would need to reach out to that person because you're right. I mean, Sanchez was the last one, I believe, who was consistently good enough, interestingly enough, born out far of leaving um so it's it's been a long time man and last year was brutal and putting all your hopes and dreams into some kid out of byu who clearly wasn't ready it's very rare for a coach and a general manager to survive that and yeah they're about to and i i think they're set up i really do think they are set up and i think rogers is pain i know that i know i know i'm setting myself up by saying that it is set up yeah totally know where the trap door resides and the schedule again is really insanely tough but i do believe rogers can be brady 2.0 in terms of playing deep into his 40s if that is something he wants to do.

He doesn't look to be a broken down guy.

He looks to be the exact opposite, taking care of himself.

And so, yeah, the expectation level is high.

There is that moment for fans of, I guess, abused fans of franchises like ourselves where the quarterback releases the ball and your instinct is to go, oh no, anticipating an interception happening. It's going to take you years to unlearn that habit.
When Rodgers starts throwing passes, you're going to still revert back to that, oh, it's the Jets quarterback throwing a pass. Here comes an interception.
It's going to be a process for you. Oh, of course.
And especially if they go 10-1, I'll say, how are they going to blow this? Right. And if they go into the playoff game, how are they going to blow that? Like, that's truly the way I'm wired when it comes to being a Jets fan.
But that's been 50 years of learned behavior. And by the way, well-learned behavior.
And so it would be amazing if he – honestly, I said this just this past Super Bowl when I strolled into the stadium and I saw the chiefs and eagles logos in the end zone i'm like i don't know how i would react if i just saw the word jets in an end zone for the super bowl they won super bowl thursday last year with nfl honors with the offensive and defensive rookies of the year i'd like to push it for three more days and win the super bowl sunday they're getting close is what i'm saying yeah you win super bowl th Bowl Thursday. You're close to Super Bowl Sunday.
I don't think that's true. We're going to find out.
Yeah, we're going to find out. Have you had the thought in your head, what if this doesn't work out? Because that's also the scary part of being fans of franchises.
Like I've had, it's a fleeting thought that pops in my head every now and then. Like what if Justin Fields isn't the guy? Like this will break me probably worse than I've ever been broken yes that'd be the same if aaron rogers is like an abject failure if it doesn't work out it can't be any worse than had they just stayed with zach wilson that's the way i'm looking at it but the expectations are so much higher so i think it could be worse no you can't talk me into hating myself i'm just asking no i i'm just saying i look at it in terms of realities and alternatives the reality is this they're set up let's see how it goes down and it's better than the alternative which was to run it back with this kid because uh rogers was uninterested because the roster wasn't to his liking or the jets blew the negotiation with the packers that's those are the alternatives that would be far worse than me being disappointed by his actual play.
That's the way I'm looking at it. Okay, that's smart.
That's healthy. Because there's no other way for me to look at it.
Because if Zach Wilson went through the schedule that they have just had placed in front of them, that reeks of 4-13 at the best possible scenario. Based on what we saw last year and how the Jet fan base became, you know, like cannibals when that kid stepped on the field.
They were ready to eat him alive because we all saw it with our own two eyes. The better option is that.
Now, let me ask you a question. Commanders, we got to change that name, right? It totally sucks.
New guys, like the new ownership comes in. They've got to get rid of that.
So I would love to see them go back to the Washington football team and then change the name again. So have like five name changes.
So get one more placeholder? Yeah, do a placeholder season with Josh Harris. Because the Commanders, it was that name.
I'm pretty sure knowing the way that Dan runs things, he knew that he was going to have it be the Commanders come hell or high water. It didn't matter what the fans wanted.
He wants to appeal. He wanted to sell season tickets to who? Raytheon, to people in Northern Virginia and Maryland that work in the military-industrial complex.
A lot of retired military people there buy season tickets. So he was like, okay, let's – the NFL always kind of flirts with this line too.
They think that they're part of the military. I think they believe that they're another branch of the military officially at this point.
Right. But Snyder wants to kind of lean into that, and so he wanted to go with the commanders to appeal to that segment of the fan base, not realizing that that segment of the fan base does not give a shit about the Washington football team.
First, you have to win football games occasionally in order to suck up to that part of your fan base. So I think it was set from the get-go.
It was going to be the commanders. If I'm Josh Harris, I'm taking over a team, what did Bill Parcells say? Change everything, change the carpets in the facility when you take over? Just change everything yeah about that place because the stink of losing in the last 30 years the sniders stench and his fingerprints are all over that team change it to the football team again and then the year after that change it to the hogs the hogs hogs would always made the most sense yeah it's a great name can you imagine like cartoon pigs with like you know sharpened fangs and then you don't have to change major tutty right you got to change that too because that's an awful name for a mascot i love major tutty what do you mean i mean he's a he's a cool pig i'm but the name though yeah our buddy like who honestly have you ever watched a game and just where somebody turns to you goes goes, how many tutties is this guy going to have today? Yeah, Stephen Shrek.
What a great tutty. Oh, my God.
Did you see that tutty out of McLaurin? Yeah, you're sounding old right now. Get out of here.
All the time. Come on.
You're telling me all the time. So we've now roosted on.
Tutties. Tutties happen.
This is where I'm now out of touch. Yeah, we say, get out of here.
And we say, that's a house call. We all watch the games together.
You do not. We stand up and we're chest bump with fans of opposing teams because we love ball, football's family.
You do not say that. Of course not.
The name Major Tutty has. By the way, it was a good one.
I made you nervous for a second. No, for a split second.
I'm like, wait a minute. Have I lost touch? Yeah.
Major Tutty seems like it's a name that's almost so bad that it's good now. Where I've leaned into it and it's like Major Tutty, he's the giant hog.
You remember Steely McBeam? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
That one ruled. He looked like Cower.
If Cower and the Purdue Boilermaker or Gene Cady had a baby, it came up with Steely McBeam. Even they ditched that.
You got to ditch. Like, everything needs to be changed.
Everything needs to be changed. I'm just I am actually super excited about and hopeful for the future for the first time.
It feels like forever. Like teams.
There's so many teams out there that have the, you know, sell the team shirts. We got to fire this owner and it never happens.
I thought I was going to die before Dan Snyder sold the team. And he did.
And he sold the team. And you're still here.
And I'm still here, and I managed to see the day that I never thought that I'd see. And really, the future is, I feel like, unlimited at this point.
Now, it's going to come crashing back down once Jacoby Brissett starts eight games and goes three and five or whatever halfway through the season. Right, but if that leads to Caleb Williams, what do you care? Then that would be wonderful.
But at this point, I have an infinite number of Super Bowls possible in my future, which is a great feeling. No truer statement that normally is the quiet part to be said out loud.
Josh Harris, the new owner, saying essentially, they were going to make a ton of money merely because they're not Dan Snyder. Right.
And it's true. Think about this.
Dan Snyder bought the team, I want to say, $800 million back in 98. And he managed it just about as poorly as you can manage any sort of business.
Like he might be the worst business owner in America. Yeah.
And then he sold for seven billion six billion dollars insane you guys should because mascots are for kids right like that's the reason the master is there yeah you guys should just have santa claus be your mascot it'd be like santa claus roots for the commanders you can't boo santa claus yeah right max yeah max he's a philly guy uh here's a hypothetical for you great for you. Great reaction.
He's been beaten down. Hypothetical for you that we toss around because we're talking about our terrible franchises.
Yeah. Next 50 years, I say to you, you win one Super Bowl and you don't go to the playoffs the other 49 years.
Or you go to 15 Super Bowls and you don't win any of them. Oh, you go to 15 and don't win any of them.
Yes. And it's the saddest thing ever to say.
Of course. Because people who root for teams that win are like, dude, flags fly forever.
It's like 15 years of going to the Super Bowl would be pretty sick. Unbelievable.
Yeah. Yeah, of course.
It's sad, though. You realize how sad that is.
I understand how sad it is. Okay, so you agree with us.
I totally agree with you. It's pathetic.
pathetic. Do you consider the Bills of the 90s a dynasty? No.
Come on. I mean, come on.
They are a dynasty. No.
They're not a dynasty. In a way, they are.
We'll never see that again. Ever.
Ever. We saw Brady with the Patriots and Belichick, and they didn't make four in a row.
I wouldn't say ever. I would.
You think we're going to see four Super Bowls in a row? The Chiefs were, you know, halftime away from being four in a row. Am I right? Yeah.
Which is what? Because the Bengals? They beat the Niners. They lost to the Bucs.
Bengals beat them when they were up 21-3 at half, and they went this year. And then they didn't, so they didn't make it.
I understand, but I would say that they came close.

The Chiefs might be, Mahomes is that good.

Anything that the Chiefs are doing as long as Mahomes,

I mean, Burrow, again, like I said, quiet part said out loud.

Him saying, as long as I'm here, we've got a window to win.

Yeah.

As true a statement as anybody can say, and I love that about him,

you could say the same thing about Mahomes, Allen, and those guys in the AFC. So I hear what you're saying, but the Bills of the early 90s dynasty, there's names from that team that are all over the Hall of Fame.
And I know because I've been there even though I don't vote. So yes, I think they're a dynasty, but at any rate.
So you would say, so if a team goes to 15 Super Bowls in 50 years, and let's just say they bunched a bunch of them together and lost them all four in a row, not a dynasty. Really good team.
Even in your own scenario of what you would choose. Really good team.
In their own way, they are a dynasty, but not official dynasty. Because you have to win one.
You've got to win three in the span of five years. That's a dynasty.
Yeah, I think three and five. I get it.
I understand what you're saying. But four in a row.
It's a losing dynasty. Plus, the problem for them is they got blown out in three of the four.
Like, absolutely destroyed. Yeah.
That is a problem. Can you imagine if you went to 15 Super Bowls and lost all of it? How many different tattoos people would get of, like, a huge Super Bowl champion every offseason? You'd have hope every time.
I know. And you get to go to the parties, you get to enjoy all of the month of January because your team's winning.
That'd be great. You get an extra month of joy in your life.
That's true. And this helps your point.
We basically broke it down to you'd win 15 NFC championships. It'd be awesome.
Or AFC. Or AFC.
But that would be awesome. That would rule you think justin fields is the guy yes i do too i think they made the right move yes i don't know there's always because football is such a tough sport to build a roster around that still is an element of what if because the fear is that he isn't the guy for the bears the next couple years and and then he goes somewhere else, and then he's really the guy to a functional organization.
Sort of like him with Georgia. Yeah, kind of.
Exactly. Nice.
Little dig at Ohio State. I like that.
You're on top right now. You get to do this to Ohio State.
I love it. It's so great, man.
How scared are you, though, on a scale of 1 to 10? Of going back to Canton and ripping that place a new one one more time in front of an entire auditorium of Ohio State, probably the Ohio State fans? How scared are you that in a world, it's a crazy thing that could happen, but if Urban Meyer came back to Ohio State, you'd be back to just sucking against them. He owned you.
He owned you. He was your daddy.
He was. He was your daddy.
No question. And it does feel, the Ryan comment that Jim Harbaugh made born on third does feel a little true because he did inherit probably the best running or, you know, program.
And he's one when he went to Alabama. That was not what it is now.
Right. He walked into a like fully functional national title contender.
Yeah. And he hasn't beaten Michigan.
Well, he hasn't beaten Michigan, but he's beaten everybody else else it's not like he hasn't done the job which is but oh look you're oh you don't want to start no wait no i like ryan day yeah has he beaten everybody else pretty much like look at his record he's lost twice to michigan maybe one here or there in the regular season and then once to georgia yeah that's about it i mean he's he's done a terrific job. But Urban Meyer coming back would ruin you.
Listen, let me just say this. And I have, you know, I'm not telling any tales out of school because I say it in front of any live microphone.
I got to meet Urban Meyer when he did the draft with us on NFL Network. Couldn't have been cooler.
Couldn't have been nicer. Did he try to finger your butt? He did not.
Okay. Because we were on television.
Yeah, right, right, right, right. So it doesn't stop him.
It was in Chicago. It was great.
Plus, that's probably illegal in parts of Illinois. I don't know.
Putting fingers up butts? Who knows? Long story short is he could not have been nice or cool or exchanged phone numbers. He came on my show a couple times.
And so that said, what he did in Jacksonville is truly the worst, biggest, most monumental flameout in the history of coaching. There's no other, I mean.
He's a college coach. You gotta put it up there and say that.
He's a college coach. He had the golden ticket.
He had an owner who's all in. He had an owner who's all in with an eight-figure annual check.
And Trevor Lawrence totally blew it. Absolutely and completely blew it.
So I guess if he comes back to campus and lays down the urban law, then that would work again, I guess. But bring it.
It would. Bring it.
I love it. Michigan's also in a much better place.
Much better place. So you've got a great roster.
Until Jim Harbaugh goes somewhere else. So if he does, then he does.
But as of right now, again, I view in realities and alternatives. The alternative was the first five years or seven years of him with Urban.
And then what we got now, which is a much better team and a much more enjoyable team that's tougher to beat in bigger spots who have now beaten Ohio State twice in a row. Yeah.
It's the greatest thing. I'm loving it.
I love the way that – I mean, we're Harbaugh guys, and I love the way that you guys – not just beating Ohio State, but the way you have done it. So do you root for Michigan when we play Ohio State? I root for jim harbaugh do you root for michigan what so you when you're watching the game and i'm sure i root for my bet i bet i'm sure you've got something on it no i bet michigan two years ago when they shocked the world and i bet him again this year so there is video of you celebrating a michigan win yes because i i bet on michigan can i see that can i'm sure we can find it it? Yeah, and then I immediately regret it when Dave goes on his, like, you know.
I'll make it my ringtone. I mean, how can you not root for Jim Harbaugh against Ohio State? Especially when he was trying to win that game for the first time, and the way that they did it, they just played, like, man football.
We're going to run the ball down your throat. Yes, and keep doing it.
It was cool. It was very cool to watch.
And keep doing it.

And then everybody thought it was an outlier, a one-off.

They're not going to go into the horseshoe and do it worse.

And they did it.

Yeah.

Well, weather.

Weather favored Michigan.

What's the weather?

What are you talking about? God's a Michigan man.

It snowed.

Excuse me.

It snowed the first year.

The second year, it didn't snow.

But it was bad weather.

So what?

It was cold.

That's Michigan.

All I hear is how great their line play is and how great their-

Yeah, I think it was sunny and beautiful.

Thank you. the first year uh-huh the second year it didn't snow but it was bad weather so it was cold that's all i hear is how great their line play is and how and how great there was sunny and like beautiful yeah i don't it windy no it was actually really good it was windy were you there beautiful i was not yeah i was i was actually there it was cold as shit and it was windy good one it was so if urban meyer did go back to ohio state i feel like he wouldn't have that same pull that he had when he left.
The shine is a little bit off. But why would they go in that direction? Because they want to beat Michigan.
They'd like to win football games. You'd cry yourself to sleep if he went back to Ohio State.
I would not. Yeah, you would.
I'd cry laughing. No.
Oh. And now I'm rooting for this.
Laughing. Now I'm rooting.
I would cry laughing. Yeah, you are.
Really? Yeah. Him coming back.
You're asking for it. I'm asking for nothing.
You're asking for it right now. I'm not asking for anything.
We're going to replay this. I will be happy.
You want it, and it's a bad idea. I would love it.
I would love it. He's shot.
Shot. Wow.
He's shot. No, I don't think so.
I think college coach, he coached college. I guess an 18-year-old that would be the top recruit to come play for him would love to be thoroughly dominated by him.

The transfer portal wouldn't be anything that anyone would go run off to.

You think Urban would be able to coach in the transfer portal era where somebody's basically like, I don't like the way you've treated me. You told me I can start.

I'm not starting.

I'm out.

You think he'd be successful?

Yes.

Because the reverse is he talks to all the guys who are trying to transfer somewhere else. and he says, hey, come here, and you'll get drafted.
Sounds good. Yeah.
His way or the highway, and as you know, there's now a highway. Yeah.
There's now a highway. Yeah.
I want to see him go to Notre Dame. By the way, Michigan had more draftees than Ohio State this time.
There you go. Again, I might add.
So let's just call it what it is, which is now a Michigan conference, which is it. I knew we'd get this out of it.
Which it is. Excuse me.
This is right when the interview's got to end. Back to back seasons.
Going to Indianapolis and winning that game. Yeah, I'm proud of you.
I apologize to you. And I thought you would at least show up in either one of them with that conference being the gimme end of the conference.
You know, Wisconsin has been the worst four years in 30 years. I mean, you know what that's like.
But it's coming. Brady Hoke, Rich Rod, you know what it's like.
You know how bad it was. Is Michigan a dynasty? Because they've reached the college football playoffs.
No, they're not a dynasty yet. You had to beat TCU.
That one hurt. I took my youngest son to the game.
It sucked. Can I confess something? Sure.
I absolutely tuned into your show the next day. Did you really? Oh, yeah.
I loved watching that. I was like, I can't wait to see Rich talk about this.
Is that the only time you tune into Roku? Is that it? Listen, I specifically remember being like, Rich, I mean, this is what people do to us. When our teams lose, I can't wait to listen.

I love it.

Yeah.

I will take it.

I obviously wear it on my sleeve.

I love the school.

That said, I do believe Wisconsin will win that.

We're building a bully.

Well, I mean, you're in the easy side of the Big Ten.

Well, we don't know what it's going to look like in a couple years.

Well, you know they're going to stick USC in Michigan's division. You know that.
Possibly. Listen.
Maybe you take USC, we'll take Indiana. You can take UCLA and we'll take USC because that's what they're going to do.
That would be awesome. Michigan has to play the toughest teams in the Big Ten every year.
That's the way it is set up. I agree.
Excuse me. Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State every year.
And then we'll get Wisconsin two out of every three. Then they'll throw in USC's coming.
Nebraska. That was really mean how you just said Nebraska.
I know that. My presence here is only going to serve to piss off Compton anyway.
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What is your beef with those guys? I don't have a beef with them. Okay.
So they're just playing it up? it's beefless it's beefless um uh lawan came on my show when was the um uh tennessee draft the um the nashville draft i think it's 2018 2019 so he's kind he comes on my show and he says i'm starting a podcast i'm like really what's it called he called bussing with the boys and we're gonna do it in a bus and i'd love for you to come on. It's a genius idea.
I'm like, great idea. Congratulations.
I love Taylor LeJuan, Michigan men. I love him.
I think he's an incredibly talented, wonderful guy. So I'm like, I'll come on any time.
He goes, great. When are you going to come to Tennessee? I'm like, what are you talking about? Like, I'm here.
Like, you want to do it now? Well, I don't have the bus yet. Okay.
So when are you coming to Los Angeles in the bus? He goes, oh, the bus is just the shell of the bus. There's no motor in the bus.
I'm like, so you're doing a podcast on a bus that does not move. What's the point of the bus? And he goes, it's just a cool bus.
And I'm like, that's ridiculous. I am not coming on your podcast until you get a motor in that thing.
He invited you onto the bus. And not only does the bus but then he said we actually don't have the bus yet correct okay so it's a hypothetical in his wildest dreams he wants to be the owner of a bus that doesn't move right and at the time hosting a podcast in it that had get to launch and invited me to come on it okay so i just thought it was totally asinine and i made a stand on the spot that to this day he still doesn't have a motor and then i see he does his show various other places with compton yeah and so even those like at the super bowl i'm like i'll do it well we think you know it'd be best if you do it on the bus on the bus i'm like when am i gonna be in nashville i don't know last summer i attempted to in for the day.
Luan couldn't do it. He was in training camp.
You need to do that. You need to fly in when you know they're not there and just take a picture in front of the bus.
I would love to do that. And just be like, I'm here.
See ya. Like, where are you guys? I'm ready.
So that's not a bad idea, by the way. Yeah.
So in the meantime, they've decided to post a photograph of me every single day. Their guy, Jack, if he continues to do it all the way up until me appearing, actually appearing on the bus, he gets a Chevy Silverado.
Oh, wow. So he is now up to day three something or other.
And there'll be it's funny. He'll post photographs.
I'll be like, when did I do that? Yeah. Like, it's really weird and wild.
And then some are highly unflattering. I understand what they're attempting to do.
I'm a man of principle. I've attempted twice now to bend that principle and still appear.
Like, again, also, I see him take, didn't they take the bus to Nebraska? Didn't they tow it? Yeah, yeah. So you're halfway there.
Tow it all the way to Los Angeles. I'm in.
I'll do the whole hour. I'll do whatever they do.
I love that they tow the yeah yeah so you're halfway there tow it all the way to los angeles i'm in i'll do the whole hour i'll do whatever they do i love that they towed the bus they towed the bus i'm like they still like and and the amount of money i'm sure the revenue they're bringing in they could have put the greatest motor in the history of motor vehicles underneath that hood and actually driven it around and shown up to places all right that now that you explain it it, that's a fair side on your point. That's it.
I have no beef with them at all. I like them.
I think what they're doing is great. But if people think I have a beef, and plus, if they want to keep sending out photographs of me, it's good for you.
Just keep spelling my name right. Yeah, the Rich Eisen business.
Come on now, man. They're in it.
It's a brand. They are your PR team.
They didn't even realize it. They had no idea.
They're completely owning themselves. Free media.
Yours are your marketing team. Yeah.
That's what they say. I'm in.
We should name our studio in Chicago The Bus, and then we just invite people. And you'll be our first guest.
You want to come in The Bus? Sure. We'll fly you out.
Chicago is easier to get to. Yeah.
I mean, invariably, we'll have a reason to be there. Yeah.
You know? You're right. Nashville, I haven't done a Titans game in forever.
If I do, I'm there. You know, happy to do it.
Yeah. Okay.
All right. Well, Rich, awesome to catch up.
Great. Thanks for having me.
Congrats on everything. Appreciate it.
We appreciate it. Yeah.
And when you come to Chicago, you got to come to the new office. Done.
Have it all set up. Yeah.
It's great. Yeah.
I can't wait, guys. Yes.
Hell yeah. It's going to be great.
When are you going? We're going to have you in the bus. The new office is going to open September.
Oh, football season. Yep.
It's going to be ready to go. I'm moving there on Thursday.
Friday. Fantastic.
Yeah. So you're going.
Yeah. Yeah, it's happening.
You don't have any personal life, do you? You just pick up and go. I get laid rich, okay? It's's okay he's on my app yeah he's taking the train he's just hopping on a free train okay with his little sack my bundle just gonna get out there no i've got a house with a roof and everything no i'm sure you i'm not saying you're indigent kind of said that i'm gonna be no i didn't i just said you know personal life like you could just, oh, sure.
You're moving from New York to Chicago.

I'll go.

Yeah.

Basically, when we started doing this show,

Big Cat was like, I don't want my kids when I have them.

They were just twinkles in his eye at this point.

I don't want my future children to have to jump around schools.

Yeah.

So New York was never in the plan for the long term.

So you're doing this for the little cats is what you're saying?

Well, it was part of it, yeah.

But it's just getting out of New York is going to be nice.

And having, we've always wanted to have a fun factory.

We've always wanted to have the big warehouse to be able to live all of our dreams.

Oh, like Pat's Thunderdome or something like that?

No, we've been thinking about it for a while too, yeah.

Okay.

Yeah, but more like Rob Dyrdek.

Rob Dyrdek was the original fun factory.

Okay.

But yeah, we've always wanted that.

Pretty tough to do and to find 40,000 square feet in New York City. Oh, so you're going to be somewhere in Chicagoland? Yeah.
No, in Chicago. In Chicago.
Yeah, yeah. So it's going to be great.
We're very excited for the future. Yeah.
I love that city. Yeah.
Yeah. When you're invited to the bus.
I can't wait. It's fucking great.
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Should we do some numbers? Yeah. But I haven't said it yet.
What was that? What was the article that was sent to you? It was about breast milk. Bodybuilders chugging breast milk.
Numbers. 6-9.
Hank. Hank's on it.
That was Hank. 18.
That was Hank. Yeah.
That was Hank. Good job, Hank.
Easy. That was Hank.
Can we check the sound levels? Yeah, sure. No problem.

It was Hank first, me second, you third.

Yeah.

Hank had that easy.

I can see it.

Yeah.

Go check.

Billy, what is your number?

I'm 21.

Okay.

99.

Also, I got a one on eight today, and 18 is already my number.

Oh, wow.

Crazy. That, wow.

That is wild.

I'll go with 17.

Max?

20.

Imagine if it's 69.

What?

What, Billy?

It doesn't even matter.

Oh, it doesn't?

No, you're not mad at all. There's no money anymore.

You're not mad.

88? Ah. Pools 88.
Oh, it doesn't? No, you're not mad at all. There's no money anymore.
You're not mad. 88?

Ah.

Pools 88.

Okay.

Love you guys.

Better be quicker now, Billy.

Baby owls may be mistaken for aliens.

Yeah, but morons.

In the dark.

Yeah.

Have you ever seen what a baby owl looks like?

Wait, you said in the dark.

Yeah.

When you can't see.

There's a whole story about-

So just two eyes might be mistaken as aliens.

Dude, just look up baby owls. Okay, I'm going to look it up right now.
Baby owls. Baby owls.
Owlets? Baby owls. Baby owls.
Oh, yeah, I've seen that picture where they do look like aliens. Billy's right.
Oh, okay. The one where they're just standing? Yeah.
But is that in the dark?

So, like, imagine seeing that in the dark.

Well, you wouldn't be able to, because it would be the dark.

But just think about it.

So there's one picture that looks like aliens.

No, no, no.

There's a good amount.

Okay.

There's, like, a whole historical record about people thinking they were attacked by aliens,

but then the next morning they saw their barn owls.

Ah. Okay.
Historical record. Still saw their barn owls.
Ah.

Okay.

Historical record.

Still going to say morons.

Yeah.

Do you think you could fight one?

Yeah, I'd fucking smash a baby owl.

I'd smash a real owl.

That's a crime.

A real owl?

That's a crime.

Give me the best.

What's the baddest owl out there?

Great horned owl.

Fucking kick that thing to the moon.

Yeah, listen.

Any bird.

I will kill any bird. Falcon? There are a lot of people that are trying to ask me about pterodactyls That's not a bird First of all No Secondly they don't exist Dude I've been watching I've been watching Ice Age Yeah Crime Easily I've been watching Ice Age with my kids Wooly Mammoth Kill I would fucking murder them Easy Easy Easy So easy.
If you put an ostrich in front of me, I'd tie its neck into a knot. That'd be awesome.
Yeah. Choke it out.
Great week. I hope we run across some animals.
Great. We'll kill all of them.
I'm talking away. So I don't know what to say.
I'm talking away. I don't know what to say.

I'm talking anyway.

The days are my days to find you.

Shine away.

I've been coming for your love.

Shine away.

I've been coming for your love.

Okay.

Take on me. Take on me.

Take on me.

Take me.

Take on me.

I'll be gone.

Needless to say. Thank you.
It's so bad to be safe than somebody Stay on me It's so bad to be safe than somebody Stay on me Stay on me Stay on me I'll be here I'll be here I'll be here I'll be here Things that you say And reason I love Just play my story You're all the things I've got to remember You're away I'll be coming for you in the living light You shine away I'll be coming for you in the living light Take on me Take on me Take on me. Take on me I'll be Take on me Take on me Take on me Take on me Take me out.