Mark Titus, The Celtics Are Back, Succession Series Finale Preview + Fyre Fest of The Week

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Speaker 1 On today's part in my take, we have our good friend Mark Titus on the show in studio.

Speaker 1 We also have succession.

Speaker 1 preview and recap all into one getting ready for succession series finale on Sunday night. We're going to talk Celtics.

Speaker 1 Precap Celtics get to 3-2 in the series. They are still alive.
They dominate the heat. Talk a little hockey, Fire Fest.
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Speaker 1 Welcome to part of my take. Today is Friday, May 26th,

Speaker 1 and the Boston Celtics are back alive. PFT, you are sitting next to Hank right now.
The smile on his face.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 5 don't touch me. Yeah, Hank just touched me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so PFT,

Speaker 1 we will talk to Hank because he now gets to golf in the month of June. Everything,

Speaker 1 anytime you think Hank is down, he bounces back. He wins.
He stays silent when he loses. Then he comes back and just fucking yells in our face when he wins.
PFT, let's start, though, you and I.

Speaker 1 Are you now very nervous because you have the bet for the Heat to win this series and you bet them up 3-0?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Panic button.

Speaker 3 It was a plus expected value on the bet, by the way. I had some smart guys sit down after the fact, crunch the numbers for me.
I was getting 10% return on investment.

Speaker 3 It should have been about 5% given the history of the NBA and 3-0 leads. So it was a sharp bet.
I don't regret anything. I'm a process guy, not a results guy.
The process was right.

Speaker 3 I make that bet 10 times out of 10 in the future. But now I've kind of shifted my paradigm, big cat.
And, you know, you're a good friend. I'm a good friend.

Speaker 3 My good friend Hank, I would gladly pay $10,000 for Hank to be allowed to golf with me in the month of June. I want those friendship moments.
I want Hank to be happy.

Speaker 3 Hank and I are going to be stuck here in Chicago on our island for the next month, and we're going to be bonding. And what better place for the fellas to bond than on a golf course?

Speaker 3 So if it's $10,000 cost to be friends with Hank for the month of June, well, then I guess

Speaker 3 he's a prostitute. He's a friend prostitute for me that I'm paying $10,000 to spend time with this month.
So I'm happy he's going to be able to do that.

Speaker 3 It is tough being in the same room as him, though, when he's experiencing satisfaction and enjoyment. And I mean, credit to Hank because it's tough being a Boston sports fan.

Speaker 3 For about a week, it looked like his team might lose in the playoffs. And that's hard.
That's hard, man. You've got to battle through some shit, Hank.
So, you know, you've seen your adversity.

Speaker 3 You might be coming out the other side. I agree with Jake that game six is game seven.
Tonight was game

Speaker 3 six, even though it was game five tonight. The Celtics won their game six, game five, and now it's up to the Heat to win their game seven, game six.

Speaker 1 And the Celtics killed them from the jump. It was an electric crowd.
They were hitting everything.

Speaker 1 It felt like

Speaker 1 there was even a little bit of a moment where the Heat, like, oh, maybe they'll come back. Nope, not to be.
I don't think Jimmy Butler played in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 It felt like everything was going in for the Celtics. It felt like they were at their level.

Speaker 1 I think there's a stat out there that when they hit over 40% from three, they're basically an unbeatable team.

Speaker 1 They did that again tonight, and you had like everyone, like Marcus Smarthead, 23, Derek Whitehead, 24. Everyone was chipping in.
It wasn't just Jason Tatum had to take over the whole game.

Speaker 1 Four out of their five starters were in 20-plus points. I

Speaker 1 tweeted during the game that I was happy that Hank gets to golf. And then as soon as we pulled up this Riverside to record and I saw his face smile,

Speaker 1 it broke me because the guy, he just, you know, he skirts away from the losses and he gets to relishing the wins. And here we are and Hank is all the way back.
And I do think

Speaker 1 I still think it's probably a coin flip, but you can't deny the fact that the Celtics, it feels like momentum has shifted all the way back. And now it's a two-game series.

Speaker 1 And if the Heat don't win in game six, it is big, big, big trouble.

Speaker 1 Hank, yeah, I mean,

Speaker 3 I'm happy, I'm very happy for Hank, the person.

Speaker 3 I'm honestly sad, though, for the listeners of the show. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 3 while Hank's going to get to enjoy himself, it does mean that the recording quality is going to suffer. The audio quality might suffer.
Yes.

Speaker 3 Because Hank's going to be working, you know, maybe two or three days this entire month because he's going to be on the course the whole time. So just bear with us.
AWLs, we love you.

Speaker 3 And I hope that you can stand to listen to this podcast, even though the quality is going to be absolute shit with Hank just being not focused at all on his job.

Speaker 1 Verbal meme, Hank in his work-work-life balance, and it's just the picture of like the future. That meme, you know, like what the world would be like if Hank was work-work.

Speaker 1 It would just be a wonderful world where we'd probably have the greatest guests. We'd probably get Kevin Duran on the show if Hank had to do work-work in June.

Speaker 3 But I mean, between his busy golf schedule and also making the trip to Miami to get his suit out of the ceiling that he left down there, I don't think Hank's going to be in the office at all.

Speaker 3 But seriously, though, Hank, congratulations. I'm very happy for you, piece of shit.

Speaker 1 So go ahead, Hank.

Speaker 3 Go ahead, Hank. Appreciate the kind words.

Speaker 7 I will say that it's really not about me. It's not about golf.
That's a side story. That's a side quest.

Speaker 7 This is all about the team. This is about the Boston Celtics.
The job's not finished.

Speaker 7 If the Celtics lose this series, I'm not going to be happy on on the golf course. I'm going to be sad.
We need to win this series.

Speaker 1 You're going to be sad on the golf course. Yeah,

Speaker 7 I'm a team player. I've entirely been focused only on winning the series.
I honestly forgot the golf thing was even a factor, but I will say it was nice having perspective.

Speaker 7 My golf game was kind of in a coma on life support for the last two weeks.

Speaker 1 Well, you could have golfed in the last two weeks.

Speaker 7 No, I know, but like it was like, you know, am I ever going to see this person again?

Speaker 7 He's on life support he's a vegetable he might not wake up well i did beat you yeah you're right and it's nice don't spoil the video oh okay i beat hank uh

Speaker 7 he didn't but i did

Speaker 7 uh

Speaker 7 it's nice it's just nice that you know all of a sudden whatever the little beeps start going you see some lines pop up and it's like oh my god he's alive and he's gonna be walking out of the hospital tomorrow this is great uh

Speaker 7 and yeah game six is game seven i do agree with big cat i think it's a coin flip i think Jalen Brown, as much as everyone else played well, Jalen Brown still kind of played a little weird.

Speaker 7 They still missed some free throws. They missed free throws all series.
That has been in my head the entire series where they just miss free throws.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 7 and that went in a close game, that matters a lot more. Turnovers, game six is definitely a toss-up.
But if you win game six, game seven at home is ours.

Speaker 3 There were a ton of turnovers tonight from the Heat. I think they had like 16, 17, 18 turnovers, something like that.
The second chance points were so lopsided lopsided tonight.

Speaker 3 And credit to Al Horford, by the way. Al Horford, he didn't have a great offensive game.
He made a couple shots, but he's gone through these lapses where he forgets that the basket exists.

Speaker 3 He made a couple shots, but on the boards, he was sticking his big ass out there, getting tip-outs, hustling. He was a dog on the court tonight.
So Big Al kind of owned the paint for a little bit.

Speaker 3 His presence was felt, and the Celtics got a shitload of

Speaker 3 second chances and capitalized on them. So the Celtics, they were just,

Speaker 3 they played harder.

Speaker 7 149 teams that have been up 4-0 or up 3-0. Only 11 have even gotten into game six.
150.

Speaker 1 But yeah.

Speaker 1 Sure. Yes.

Speaker 1 Because the Nuggets and Lakers did happen.

Speaker 9 Right. Right.
That happened a couple days ago.

Speaker 3 Hank, what do you think about Joe Missoula's pregame routine today?

Speaker 3 The report that he went to the hospital, he met with cancer patients, and the direct quote from him was.

Speaker 7 I mean, one of those probably saw my golf game in there.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 He said, he said, watching a girl dying and smiling and enjoying her life, that's what it's really all about. So he gained some perspective.
It's kind of some psycho shit,

Speaker 3 but I guess it's nice that he went to the hospital, tried to make people happy, cheer them up a little bit. But it does, it's, it's Gary V.
Adjacent is what he's doing.

Speaker 3 He's just reminding, he's trying to force himself to work harder by looking at people who are dying and be like, well, I need to do it for them.

Speaker 1 It's a cool move, but it also feels like it might have been a move where if they had lost this game tonight, he could get up and be like, you know where I was earlier today?

Speaker 1 I was in a hospital seeing cancer for patients. This is just a game.
Maybe a little old Coach K move where it's like, the game doesn't really matter. It's life.

Speaker 7 Can I get a Celtics team chemistry update from you?

Speaker 1 Yeah, they seem to be a little bit better. Like, listen, you're going to,

Speaker 1 I can't get. I'm just curious.
No, no, I know. I mean, you skirted the question basically every time I asked it.
So it's funny that you bring it up when you win a couple games. That's false.

Speaker 1 That's not false.

Speaker 7 You, like Kevin O'Connor, sent that Kevin O'Connor to it. And I was like, there's no way that is that accurate.

Speaker 1 That was my exact response. You actually didn't respond when I sent it in the text message.
Can everyone back me up? Hank just didn't respond to the text message.

Speaker 7 I mentally responded

Speaker 1 on stream. I rest my case that you just

Speaker 7 talked about it on stream. There's a live stream.
I'll get the clip. I'll send it to you.

Speaker 1 Okay, great. But the other times on the podcast, you didn't respond when I brought it up.
Because when you lose, you don't talk.

Speaker 7 Again, this is where it's like: if you know, if you're in Big Cat's world and you're not doing, if you're not, you can't lose, apparently, and you can't win.

Speaker 1 No, no, you can't lose. I don't really know.
No, when you lose, you can win.

Speaker 3 But you have to be able to contribute to the show after.

Speaker 8 I have talked every single loss.

Speaker 7 I lost, and then I started, I started talking in the game.

Speaker 1 You're like, you can't do that. You can't do that.
You can't do that.

Speaker 7 Remember that?

Speaker 1 No, I don't. And after the Sixers game, when I was quiet,

Speaker 1 yeah, you were faking it. You're like, again, that's just a lot.

Speaker 7 it's like, you can't, I can't exist.

Speaker 1 No, when you lose, get mad. You just go, you go silent.
I mean, listen, it's fine.

Speaker 7 You guys are kind of subjective. There's no like right or wrong.
It's a subjective art.

Speaker 3 No, you feel what you feel. And Hank, feelings are never wrong.
But when you feel bad, you act like a shithead.

Speaker 5 And when you feel good, you act like a bigger shithead.

Speaker 1 That's what we're saying. Monday's, the start of Monday's show was painful trying to get something out of you.
I'm happy you're back. I want you to, I want to see you fight.
And you're fighting.

Speaker 1 You know what?

Speaker 7 I'm not going to take your guys' jealous

Speaker 7 comments personally.

Speaker 3 It's okay. You know what you do, Hank? This is what happens when you lose, we needle you, and then you won't respond to it.

Speaker 3 So you force us to get progressively meaner and meaner and meaner to you just to elicit a reaction. And then you still don't react.

Speaker 3 And then when you win, you take all the mean stuff that we said out on us after a win, but we only did that because you forced us to

Speaker 3 hit you right now, Hank.

Speaker 1 That's facts.

Speaker 3 I don't want to do this, babe.

Speaker 1 PFT

Speaker 1 sum that up so perfectly. All my feelings.
Thank you, PFT. Max is clapping right now.

Speaker 1 That was perfect. All right.

Speaker 3 Also, Hank did an insult Photoshop of Max that he put out online where he just Photoshop Max's face onto everybody.

Speaker 1 No shot did he make that. 0% chance he made that.

Speaker 3 I commissioned it. No, I was standing behind Hank when he had Photoshop.

Speaker 1 You commissioned the hit?

Speaker 1 You said I commissioned it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.

Speaker 1 We should get Jake's perspective because

Speaker 1 now this guy's got to be positive after two losses, but I want to hear it.

Speaker 7 And I, the thing is, I know Jake's happy for me. No matter what he says, I know he secretly is like, he is.

Speaker 10 I think I want the Heat to win this series more than Jake wants the Heat to win this series.

Speaker 3 He's got the P's already in the Stanley Cup. All right, so

Speaker 2 I can be both equally happy for Hank that he didn't even

Speaker 1 golf, but I'm also very upset that the Heat might blow this. Like, you can say equally?

Speaker 1 No, I can be happy. I can't walk over you.

Speaker 1 No, I'm not letting walk over me. Yes, you are.
You can't be happy.

Speaker 1 You're in a fight for your life, Jake.

Speaker 8 Here's the thing.

Speaker 1 I love golf at the level that Hank does.

Speaker 12 So putting myself in his shoes, that's where it's coming from.

Speaker 11 Like big cat, imagine if you're banned from betting on sports for a month.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't make that bet.

Speaker 11 Exactly.

Speaker 1 But imagine. Exactly.
I wouldn't make that.

Speaker 1 But it's your team. But it's your team.
It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter like you.

Speaker 3 I don't scream after every basket.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm just calling it how it is.

Speaker 10 I'm not going to fake it just because we're deep in the playoffs, just to drum up a narrative.

Speaker 2 Like, yes, I want them to win. Well, I lose one.

Speaker 1 Did they lose?

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah, Jake just called you a simp.

Speaker 1 No, no, he's no. I'm saying Hank's walking over Jake now because Jake is rooting for Hank and Hank is just sitting there collecting all the wins.

Speaker 3 Well, Hank is collecting the wins meanwhile, but Jake, what Jake just did to Max is honestly very, very mean, even though he's trying to be polite. He's like, listen,

Speaker 3 I don't really care that much when my teams win or lose. And you are a freak about your teams.

Speaker 1 No, he wasn't wrong.

Speaker 1 That's fair.

Speaker 12 That's it. Like, am I ecstatic that the Panthers shout out the Ps?

Speaker 13 They're in the Stanley Cup final.

Speaker 2 I'm really happy.

Speaker 8 Like, that's awesome. Like, I know a lot of diehards down there.

Speaker 11 Am I one of them? No. Am I going to act like I'm one of them? No.

Speaker 3 So, like, why would I fake it?

Speaker 2 You know, this is, this is the honest truth.

Speaker 1 You're so fair.

Speaker 3 With the heat, hey i think it's fair jake to say that with the heat you should want the heat to win way way more than you want hank to be able to play golf no but there's one thing you're not thinking about too like jake marsh consummate professional big j

Speaker 7 if you're a big j you love a storyline

Speaker 1 150 series 3-0 and to finally be able to win one like that's a great storyline i don't care this is what he's doing to you jake you have to know what he's thinking he's just smiling year to year he's collecting all the wins he's got all the fucking Pokemon.

Speaker 12 No, if the Heat lose this series, being on the bad side of history is embarrassing.

Speaker 8 Like,

Speaker 12 this is the only outcome where I would legitimately have a pit in my stomach for a long time if they blew this.

Speaker 5 Like, if they lost, if it was 2-2 and they lost whatever, 3-3.

Speaker 1 But, like, this, you can't have history.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 being a Yankees fan. Being a Yankees and for him to hunt for golf.
I was rooting for the Heat tonight, but I'm just looking at the positives.

Speaker 5 Like the heat loss, but my friend gets to have what he wants. Like,

Speaker 1 we can play together. Yeah, we can go play together, Jake.

Speaker 7 It's going to be great.

Speaker 1 We're going to have a great June. This is not what we do.
We root for each other.

Speaker 1 Is that not why I'm on the show in the first place?

Speaker 13 Like, it's to be a different perspective. Like, I'm not going to fake it.

Speaker 1 I know you guys hate this.

Speaker 13 I know the AWLs are going to come after me and be like, you're social loser, casual, fake fan.

Speaker 1 This is who I am.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry.

Speaker 13 I'm sorry

Speaker 1 jake we're we're not mad at you no we're really mad at is the fact the fact that if we were in your position we would want to kill hank yeah

Speaker 1 yeah i want i want i root for it like that's that's male friendship rooting for your friends to fit have their sports team fail like that really is the epitome like you if you can't win it you don't want your friends to win it That's bullshit.

Speaker 8 Yes.

Speaker 10 And again, like, I'm not rooting for the Celtics to win this series by any means.

Speaker 13 But since the Celtics win tonight, how do I spin zone that?

Speaker 14 All right, Hank doesn't have to give up golf.

Speaker 8 Jake,

Speaker 3 you know that for the remainder of our time on this fleeting earth, that Jake will that Hank will always remind you that the Red Sox came back against your Yankees down 3-0 and that his Celtics came back against your Heat 3-0.

Speaker 3 That will be something that Hank will have in his back pocket, which he will use in order to make your life worse moving forward.

Speaker 3 You have to be proactively defensive about that because you don't want Hank to pull that out and stab you in the back when you least expect it, which he will.

Speaker 7 I will say

Speaker 7 we're having fun. We're having some laughs.
We're getting a little loose and goosey.

Speaker 3 But game six is 100% a toss-up.

Speaker 7 Game six is a 50-50. I could see it going either way.
I could see

Speaker 7 the Celtics losing in horrific fashion or whatever. So the series is far from over.
Game six is a toss-up.

Speaker 1 I really, I,

Speaker 1 I mean, Jimmy Butler butler sitting for the fourth quarter that's felt like load management because they're just going to try to unload the clip in game six but i do think that the celtics like maybe gabe vincent was the x factor is gabe vincent out jake or is he going to be back i think he should be back for game six but this just came across the twitter timeline just reporting jimmy butler at the podium we can and we will win this series Okay, so I, yeah, that, that to me is scared.

Speaker 1 That to me is the Celtics are going to win this series.

Speaker 7 My first moment when I was talking the other night, when I was like, I had to get myself ramped up, was when Jimmy Butler posted the pointing picture at Gray Williams. It's like,

Speaker 7 that's something you post when the series is still going.

Speaker 13 No, he posts after every game.

Speaker 1 Like, he's already for timeout. Like, that's just a thing.

Speaker 13 He posts after losses, too.

Speaker 7 But still. I saw that.
It was like,

Speaker 1 this is going to come back. Hank,

Speaker 1 I think the Celtics, like, I truly do. I know people are like, well, does he Heat only have to win one.
The Celtics have to win two.

Speaker 1 It's 50-50, and it might even be leaning towards the Celtics because they played, like, that was the game that they were looking for for a while now, where it's like, yeah, we just made this not even a doubt.

Speaker 1 And it goes back to game four, second half, where they have the same thing. So it's pretty much six quarters now where they've played lights out.

Speaker 1 And it's, I mean, it's not like they're an underdog trying to come back down 3-0. They were favored in this series.

Speaker 1 They have home court. They were favored.
Like,

Speaker 1 yeah, Hank's fucking Hank. This guy fucking wins.

Speaker 3 He's a winner. Hank's getting me sick right now, too.
We were trying to do hedge math tonight while we were watching this game.

Speaker 1 This is tonight.

Speaker 3 And you might as well have to be in Goodwill Hunting to be able to figure out hedge math because it's algebra. It's complicated.
I'm not very smart.

Speaker 3 I chose to be an English major in college because I didn't have to take more than one math class the entire time. So we're trying to figure out hedge math.

Speaker 3 And for a while, I was like, why don't I just bet $10,000 on the Celtics? And then that way, you know, like they're probably going to be what, plus $150,000, plus $175 to win the series.

Speaker 3 I was like, I guarantee myself winning at least $11,000. And then I was like, wait, wait a second.
No. No, I guarantee myself losing $9,000 if that happens.
It's tough to figure that out.

Speaker 3 But for about for about two minutes, Hank and I both thought that we figured out a way to break the system.

Speaker 7 No, I didn't know what it was, but PFT was like, it's a guaranteed winner. And I said, something doesn't add up there because whenever you say that, it's never true.
No, I don't know.

Speaker 7 And then five minutes later, it's like, oh, no, that would be a potential $8,000 loss.

Speaker 1 And the Celtics are definitely favored in the series now.

Speaker 12 No.

Speaker 12 Minus 155.

Speaker 12 Celtics plus 110 on the Barcelon Sports.

Speaker 2 Okay, so yeah, you can't.

Speaker 12 And Celtics minus three, game six on the road.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Also, fun fact, we haven't brought this up yet. This is Blake Griffin's first appearance in the conference finals throughout his entire career.
He's not going to lose his first approach.

Speaker 1 That's a good point. That's a good point.
Also,

Speaker 3 also, Blake Griffin and Kevin Love, the last two players to be featured on the NCAA basketball game. How about that? They're playing against each other.
How wild is that, Jake?

Speaker 5 I think I have that game.

Speaker 1 I love that. How about this? How wild is that? Wow.
There we go. You have it on you.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's sick.

Speaker 8 I used to play turn it, like, simulate March Madness tournaments all the time.

Speaker 1 Jake, I'm disgusting with you. I don't want to hear you talk.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, congrats, Hank.

Speaker 1 At least it's here. I'll say here's a spin zone.
I did want to have something to watch on Saturday night.

Speaker 1 So we have a game Saturday night, succession finale Sunday night, and then potentially Monday night at game seven.

Speaker 1 So like as a sports fan, I'm happy that I get to watch more basketball because it would have been a bummer to have that type of break.

Speaker 7 And as a family man, big cat, you can take some solace in this. I don't like where this is going to be.
Next week, I had planned to be playing golf with my grandfather. And then this week,

Speaker 1 my grandparents are dead.

Speaker 7 He was like, hey,

Speaker 7 what is this? I'm hearing that you're not going to be able to play golf with me next week. And I was like, I didn't even have the heart to tell him what was going on.
I just waited until tonight.

Speaker 1 So that's. Sick fucking you have grandparents alive.

Speaker 3 Yeah, really. Some of us don't have any and haven't had any for a long time.

Speaker 1 But I bet if you did, you'd want to play golf with them.

Speaker 3 No, if I had, if my grandfather was alive and he said, said, hey, PFT, do you want to go play golf? There's no elevators at this course, I would say, you know what? Yeah, I would love to.

Speaker 3 In fact, I want to so very deeply that I'm willing to shave my facial hair into a soul patch in order to play golf with you, grandfather. Wow.

Speaker 3 But Hank, in his mind, wouldn't even shave his facial hair into a soul patch to play golf with his grandfather, who's still alive.

Speaker 7 And then go to a family wedding right after, which would have been embarrassing.

Speaker 1 Jake, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry I got mad at you, Jake.

Speaker 12 I'm sorry for my unique unique take.

Speaker 1 Don't apologize. No, I'm sorry I got mad at you.
I'm sorry I got mad at you. I shouldn't get mad at you.

Speaker 1 All right, I forgive you.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 it's everything PFT summed up. I don't care.
No, it's everything PFT summed up perfectly about the

Speaker 10 Hank just.

Speaker 3 He makes us do that too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. He does.

Speaker 3 And then he gets mad at us.

Speaker 1 The way he acts makes it. And the smile right now is exactly his fault.
Yeah. If you're watching on the YouTube, you know it is his fault.

Speaker 1 All right. We got a

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Speaker 1 What were you going to say, PFT? Sorry before that ad. Did you have somebody?

Speaker 3 There was some big news that came up today in the NBA. It didn't have anything to do with this game, but it just came out today.
Shams announced LeBron James was actually injured in the playoffs.

Speaker 3 He had a pretty much destroyed foot. He was playing on an injury that would have killed even the mightiest Spartan warriors.

Speaker 3 He had a tendon injury in his foot, which, I mean, I can't believe that he was able to walk on that thing, much less play in the Western Conference finals, which is incredible.

Speaker 3 I don't think anybody out there saw this news breaking today. We definitely didn't say on the last show that news like this was about to come out about LeBron James.

Speaker 3 But I just want to say salute to a warrior that's hockey tough. I'd like to see an NHL player do what LeBron James did in this playoffs.

Speaker 3 So credit to LeBron for doing it and not saying a word about it. In fact, he's probably embarrassed that the news came out.

Speaker 1 This is the same injury that he told the media a few months ago: that he's probably going to need surgery in the offseason, but he's not going to tell anyone when he gets surgery, even though he definitely will tell everyone when he gets surgery.

Speaker 1 But yeah, thoughts and prayers to LeBron. Hope he's okay.

Speaker 1 God damn it, Hank. You just win all the time.

Speaker 1 Okay, other stories.

Speaker 1 The Panthers are in the Stanley Cup final. The Stars are still alive.
The Stars just won an overtime against the Knights.

Speaker 1 Rob Brenden Moore, the coach of the Carolina Hurricanes, took a page out of our good friend Max, his playbook, with probably the biggest loser talk I've ever heard.

Speaker 1 So if you missed it, the Hurricanes got swept. And Rob Brenden Moore afterwards said, That's the unfortunate part of this is we're going to look back and everyone's going to say you got swept.

Speaker 1 And that's not what happened. I watched the game.
I'm there. We're in the game.
We didn't lose four games. We got beat, but we were right there.
This could have gone the other way.

Speaker 1 It could have been four games the other way. Tonight, the way it ended is tough getting a penalty like that.
That's tough, especially with what was let go.

Speaker 1 That's going to sting, not take anything away from the other team because they played hard. So

Speaker 1 they did lose with five seconds left,

Speaker 1 which was a thrilling game. But to come out afterwards and say the history books will show we got swept, but that's not what happened,

Speaker 1 that's quite a quote.

Speaker 3 Yeah, they didn't lose every game. They just didn't win.
And that's what their problem was.

Speaker 1 They were close.

Speaker 3 They didn't get no wins. They got zero wins in this series.

Speaker 10 It is, what they should do is just be like, hey,

Speaker 3 the Panthers have beaten some really good teams this year in the playoffs. They're just, you got to, if you're the Hurricanes, you're rooting for the Panthers to win in the Stanley Cup finals, right?

Speaker 3 That way you can even feel better about the zero wins that you got in the Eastern Eastern Conference finals because you're like, well, they're just the best team in hockey.

Speaker 3 Any other team in the league, we would have beaten.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they need to hang a banner that just says

Speaker 1 Eastern Conference Finals definitely didn't get swept, even though it says we got swept.

Speaker 3 Almost won, almost tied game four in a 4-0 series sweep. Yeah.
Put the banner up.

Speaker 1 Played a lot of overtimes. Series was close.

Speaker 1 The history books will show it as a sweep, but we all know they didn't actually get swept.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they lost 4-0, but it wasn't a sweep because they didn't lose those four games. They could have won them.

Speaker 3 Yeah, they just didn't win them.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Look, maybe we need to be more like Rob Brindemore going forward. The Bears didn't lose the Super Bowl.
They just didn't win it. They were close.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Jake is like Rob Brindemore, though. Like, that's such a healthy mentality to have.

Speaker 3 Yeah, if you're talking perspective, but nobody with any sort of healthy perspective should have a place in professional sports. Yeah.
This is a domain of psychopaths.

Speaker 1 No, that's not.

Speaker 3 You got what you got.

Speaker 8 The numbers never lie.

Speaker 1 They lost 4-0. That's a sweep.

Speaker 8 Max. But it was hits.

Speaker 1 That's a no-hitter.

Speaker 1 But it wasn't because they didn't lose all four games. They just were very close.

Speaker 1 It's one of those moments that... when they ask for the press, when they do the press conference right after, it's emotional.
You say things you probably regret.

Speaker 1 I guarantee you, Rob Bren woke up the next day and was like, fuck, did I really just say that we didn't lose 4-0 and that we were close in all those games? Because

Speaker 1 it is on the surface, just, I mean, they were close, but on the surface, that's the definition of loser talk.

Speaker 3 It's also Brenda Moore, that's got to be, he's got to be a French guy. That's very French line of thinking.
Like, that's like France wearing t-shirts that say back-to-back World War Champions.

Speaker 3 Yeah, technically, I guess you could make that case, but in reality, you know, that's not what really happened.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Tough,

Speaker 1 tough.

Speaker 1 They, yeah, the Hurricanes were close. They did.
I think their goal differential was only,

Speaker 1 no, wait.

Speaker 8 Every goal was a one-goal game.

Speaker 1 Every game was a one-goal game. So they were

Speaker 1 four-goal differential.

Speaker 1 But yeah, to say

Speaker 1 we didn't lose, we didn't get swept. That's not what happened.
We didn't lose four games. That actually is, in fact, what happened.

Speaker 1 It's exactly what happened. They lost 4-0, and the Panthers are now in the Stanley Cup final.
Brooks Kepka, our guy, I don't know if he's going to be able to keep the schedule up.

Speaker 1 I don't know know if you guys saw, but for the live event, he wasn't there today because of flight issues,

Speaker 1 which is hilarious because we all watched him the last three days just have the greatest three days like in the history of greatest four days in the history of sports.

Speaker 1 I don't think you can live better than what Brooks did this week, where he just went and he told us the schedule on Sunday night.

Speaker 1 He's like, yeah, I got the P's, then I got the heat, then I got the P's again. He got to see his team that he has season tickets for go to the Stanley Cup three days after he won the PGA championship.

Speaker 3 Yeah, no, but I mean, it was, he had plane trouble. That's why he was late getting to the live event.

Speaker 3 He did show up after the press conference, which is awesome that he just, he decided that he just wasn't going to talk to the media because who knows what was going through his brain at that point.

Speaker 3 Probably not in the best mental mindset. But no, it was plane issue.
You've seen all the delays that have been happening across America for the last year.

Speaker 3 Mayor Pete has grounded flights like 75% of all the weekends.

Speaker 3 He was probably flying southwest, trying to save a little bit of money because you don't get rich by spending money on private jets, big cat.

Speaker 3 So he was probably flying on a discount carrier, which was grounded, and then he was late getting to the event. But when he got there, there was a nice reception that happened.

Speaker 3 Hank, will you please stop coughing?

Speaker 3 Hank's going to get me sick.

Speaker 1 Well, he didn't sleep for fucking the entire week.

Speaker 1 He pulled a Brooks Kepka.

Speaker 3 I mean, you've been coughing the entire show.

Speaker 7 I'm trying not to.

Speaker 1 Like, shut the fuck up.

Speaker 7 I'm literally sitting here trying not to cough. You're like, can you not cough? As I'm literally eating coughs,

Speaker 1 I'm just going to get sick. PFD, this is the problem.
When Hank loses and he doesn't speak, then we get this point where he coughs in our face and then we're like, shut up with the coughs.

Speaker 7 Now you're getting on my wavelength.

Speaker 1 Wait, so you agree with everything I said? All right. So

Speaker 1 other thing we should talk about.

Speaker 1 Michael Block. We got to have a discussion about this story.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 feel-good story, fun story.

Speaker 1 He has then gotten an exemption in a bunch of events. He's playing right now in the Charles Schwab.
He also had a clip where he said if he had Rory McElroy's distance, so off the T-box,

Speaker 1 he would be one of the best players in the world because he's a world-class pitch, wedge, everything around the greens. He then came out and he is 120th out of 120 participants.

Speaker 1 And I think the Charles Schwab,

Speaker 1 I know that it was a nice story, but he has done everything. And I know it's partially the media's fault for like building up ourselves included.
But yeah,

Speaker 1 that clip where he was like, yeah, if I had Rory's length,

Speaker 1 it would be insane how good I am. Like, what are we talking about here? And then goes and shoots a plus 10, 120 out of 120.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's also, it is a little bit relatable because I'm, I always say, like, if I, if I had Billy's size, I would be in the NFL right now.

Speaker 3 And that's one of the things that you can say if you're, for whatever reason, you don't make it in professional sports. Just take somebody that's bigger than you and be like, man,

Speaker 3 listen, if I was Joelle Embiid's height,

Speaker 3 I would win the NBA championship every single year because I got that dog in me. You can pretend and you can cosplay as being a great athlete.

Speaker 3 He's just doing exactly what I think a lot of people do in other sports. But the difference is, he's supposed to be better than that.

Speaker 3 He's supposed to be better than us because he is a PGA club pro and he has competed against these guys. And yeah, it probably wouldn't hurt if he was driving the ball 325 yards, 330 yards.

Speaker 3 He'd probably be better than he is right now.

Speaker 3 But you have to, you have to understand the situation that you found yourself in where there's nothing that the media loves more is tearing a guy down, especially one that they've built up themselves.

Speaker 10 So you just got to be boring and you get to just stick to crying. If he had just cried

Speaker 3 non-stop for five days. Yeah, I know.
He's addicted to crying. If he had just done nothing but cry during the interview, then we would have been like, oh my God, I love this guy.

Speaker 3 I love how humble he is. You can say whatever you want as long as you're crying while you say it, and the media will eat it up.
But yeah, he put his foot in his mouth a little bit on that one.

Speaker 3 And I think now the golf purists, he's lost the golf purists. And when you lose them, then who else really is there that pays attention to the events that aren't any of the majors?

Speaker 1 And it is, again, I take... I take blame in this.

Speaker 1 Anyone who's in the media should take blame in this because like the way we talked about the story and how much everyone was like hounding to the story.

Speaker 1 and he did a bunch of interviews, which, if I were in his shoes, I'd do all those interviews too. I think he signed with a talent agency, like all moves that anyone in his shoes would do.

Speaker 1 But then

Speaker 1 you know what the reaction is going to be when you come out and are dead last and also say,

Speaker 1 if you had Rory's distance, you would be a world-class player. That one, he, I bet you he wishes he had back.
I think he might have even taken it back because it's like, yeah, Rory McElroy.

Speaker 1 You know why Rory McElroy has that? It's because he's a freak athlete and and he's worked insanely hard at his craft. It didn't just happen overnight.

Speaker 3 Yeah, the live tour might come calling for Block.

Speaker 3 If they do, then he should absolutely 100% take that money.

Speaker 1 I think that's where the disconnect is, too.

Speaker 1 Like, if he had just been like after the PGA being like, dude, this rules, and I'm going to milk this as hard as I possibly can and try to make as much money for my family as I can, I think then everyone would have been like, cool, yeah, that's that's what you should do.

Speaker 1 But it's the combo of like straddling the fence of being like an awesh guy while also milking it for everything.

Speaker 1 Because I don't blame him for doing any of the interviews, any of like the promo, any advertising that he's done. Like, I don't blame him for it.

Speaker 1 If you have a chance to make the money, go make the money. That's that's a no-brainer.

Speaker 3 Yeah, see, so the difference is if any of us say, like, if we have Rory McElroy's distance, we would be one of the best golf players in the world. That's to be expected from people like us.

Speaker 3 When he says it, he should know better because he's actually good enough to know that he's not that good at golf.

Speaker 1 Right, right. And what it takes, yeah, to get there.

Speaker 1 Okay, anything else? We have, so the schedule next week, Tuesday show, Friday show.

Speaker 1 Tuesday, we have Michael Malone from the Nuggets. So get excited for that.
Awesome interview. We already did it.
He's the absolute man.

Speaker 1 Anything else, though, before we kick it to Mark Titus? And we also have a succession preview of the series finale coming up as well.

Speaker 1 If you have not watched or if you're behind, we will tell we tell you exactly where in the show the spoilers start. So, we're not trying to do a Sopranos thing.
We're very clear about it.

Speaker 1 We'll put in the timestamps.

Speaker 1 Anything else, though, before we kick it to a long weekend and back to ourselves in studio with Titus?

Speaker 1 Everybody be safe out there, Memorial Day weekend. Yes.
Yeah.

Speaker 14 I think the name Matt Kachuck deserves to be said on this show.

Speaker 12 I know we talked Panthers, but that trade was insane. And that game winner is literally putting the team on his back.

Speaker 8 Stud.

Speaker 1 I can't believe you're rooting. You rooted for Hank to golf.

Speaker 10 I did not root for him to golf.

Speaker 1 You're happy.

Speaker 3 Yes. I appreciate it.
I really do.

Speaker 7 I really do, Jake.

Speaker 7 I was like, I couldn't get mad at you because I knew that you were rooting for me to win as much as I was rooting for me to win.

Speaker 1 Jake, you realized that.

Speaker 3 If you had swept Hank, the reaction that he would have would be 100% different from what he's doing right now.

Speaker 3 You're smart enough to understand that, right? I know that yes

Speaker 13 but you guys are just twisting it i'm not i was not rooting for the celtics to win be like yes i want hank to golf afterwards i spun it

Speaker 1 hank's taking advantage of me right now yeah that's what i'm saying i said that i said that i said that

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Speaker 3 And now, here's Mark Titus.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on the show one of our favorite recurring guests.

Speaker 1 We actually had the conversation maybe it was yesterday, Days Blend blend together who has been on the show the most you might be up there mark titus i uh yeah i feel like i gotta be in the top 10 at least definitely top 10 yeah top 10 at least who who would you settle on as number one i said it was ryan whitney i think it is ryan whitney it could be yeah it could be whitney it could be uh russillo's been on a bunch

Speaker 3 of ryan's on the show

Speaker 1 but right whitney's been on consistently like two to three to four times a year for like six years yeah florio has been on a lot too yeah but you're up there so it's great

Speaker 8 You're going to start getting

Speaker 8 some of the guys you call, like the Blakes, do they count? Like when Lenny's going to be on the Mortals.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Like when we call Lenny Dyscher for an entire year? Yeah, that counts.

Speaker 3 Mortals is definitely, I'd say he's still top 10, but he was top five. But he's been,

Speaker 3 since retiring from football, he's semi-retired.

Speaker 1 You need one of those animated infographics where it will show like a college basketball team wins, and then it will start with like Princeton had the most wins wins in like 1902,

Speaker 1 and then you see like the emergence of Duke, and you see the emergence of

Speaker 1 here comes Whitney.

Speaker 8 Yeah, yeah, I don't want to be number one, though. That's that's way too much pressure.

Speaker 8 I would, I don't, I just literally anything in life, I don't want to be number one.

Speaker 1 So that's smart.

Speaker 8 I like that Whitney's number one, he's he's better suited for it.

Speaker 1 So we're taping this on Wednesday afternoon. Uh, we are running this on Friday.
There is a game five in Boston on Thursday.

Speaker 1 Let's start here because you have started a rivalry with Celtics fans. It feels like out of the blue.

Speaker 8 It kind of came out of nowhere because

Speaker 8 watching game five against the Sixers and seeing the Boston fans booing their team, it broke me. And I don't know what I've, I'm like everyone else.

Speaker 8 Like, as I watch the NBA, I cheer against the Lakers and Celtics. And that's, you know, like, that's kind of a typical way to, for an average fan to.

Speaker 8 So, I, I guess I have like an anti-Boston thing in that regard, but I, I've never really cared that much to go on a rant until I watched them boo it when it wasn't even ending their season, and we all knew that this bought, like, we knew that the Sixers, I guess we didn't know the Sixers were definitely going to lose, but like, it was within the realm of possibility.

Speaker 8 I was not shocked that the Celtics went to Philly, won game six, and then came back home. So, the fact that they were booing their team when the season wasn't even over, it just seemed crazy to it.

Speaker 8 Like, the entitlement just was insane to me that you were booing a successful team. Like, this has been a great Celtics run that they've been on.

Speaker 8 They have not won a championship, but what Celtics teams do win championships? They've been into the family.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 8 I don't get what the standard is in Boston, right?

Speaker 3 We talk about different cities and how their different sports teams have different fans. Like, Big Kat always brings up how Cleveland, like, Cavs fans.
are not the same as Browns fans.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you see like Browns fans.

Speaker 1 You root for Browns fans.

Speaker 3 Yeah, same, same people, but it's not the same. It's not the same.
It's different. With Boston sports fans, you're just a fucking Boston sports fan.

Speaker 8 Yeah, and I guess that's what's very bizarre to me. Yeah, like Tom Brady played quarterback for your football team.

Speaker 8 That has nothing to do with your basketball team or like what the expectation should be for your hockey team. But like they're the one city that seems to operate that way.

Speaker 8 And I don't, it makes zero sense.

Speaker 1 Well, I think it's because they've won so much. Like I know that.

Speaker 8 The Patriots have won so much. The Red Sox have won so much.
This was the point. Like the Celtics haven't won shit.

Speaker 1 Right, right.

Speaker 8 So I never understood why if you're a Boston Celtics fan, why you're, like, you're going in year after year and you have a team that has been to, what is this, five out of seven Eastern Conference Finals?

Speaker 1 Something like that, yeah.

Speaker 8 Which I'm not saying hang a banner for that, but it's, like, this is very obviously a great stretch of basketball. This is a great era of Boston Celtics basketball.

Speaker 1 You got to hang a banner.

Speaker 8 And if they don't hang a banner, but like, I don't understand why that is the standard for the Celtics when that is insane.

Speaker 8 They've won one championship since 1986. Like, why is that the standard?

Speaker 1 But I think it's all of them combined. Like, I know that Browns fans are LeBron fans.
I just separate them because it's like one team is is losing historically and the other team is winning.

Speaker 1 So there's a difference where

Speaker 1 teams are in the mix.

Speaker 8 I understand how it happens. I just want to call it out as being insane.

Speaker 8 So I get how you arrived at that point. It just makes zero sense.

Speaker 1 So we don't know what's going to happen in game five, but on, let's just say, let's say that it doesn't really matter.

Speaker 1 Do you think Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum are like put your future on both those guys?

Speaker 8 Because they are kind of stuck in a weird spot where there's no, the alternative doesn't make as much much sense like even if you don't like them together which i think most people like them ish if you don't love them together what's the alternative this is i if so yeah like what it what is i guess you have to start with what is the expectation and if you're trying to win the title and again we're i'm i got to be careful with how we're talking about this because everyone seems to think the celtics are going to come back and they're not dead yet and you know we're talking about them like they're they're done and maybe they didn't go on to win the title this year but from what we've seen so far it feels like tatum and brown cannot get over the hump they're not going to get over the hump uh so if if you're saying if and and i've been led to believe by the boston fans that this is the expectation year after year as we are trying to win nba championships anything less than that is a failure of a season then yeah i do feel like something has to be done but i think there is there's value in realizing we we have a very very we have one of the best teams year after year with these guys keep taking shots keep taking shots keep stepping up to the plate keep so i don't i if I was running the team, of course, I wouldn't blow it up, but I feel like Celtics fans have gotten to the point where, like, we're never going to get over the hump.

Speaker 8 But

Speaker 8 maybe I say this as a guy who grew up watching Indiana Pacers basketball and like, this was what the Pacers were. It was like the best case scenario for the Pacers was make the Eastern Finals.

Speaker 8 They made the finals one time in 2000 and the Lakers handled them.

Speaker 8 But I think Pacers fans were like, that was a sick era, man.

Speaker 1 Rick Smith. That was so sick.

Speaker 3 Maybe the most dunkable guy in the NBA.

Speaker 1 Shaq against Rick Smith

Speaker 1 was not fair. Yeah.

Speaker 8 But you're right. Because if you blow it up, what does the alternative look like? Do you go back to

Speaker 8 rebuilding? Does it

Speaker 1 like championships are very hard to win? Just having a consistently good team that gets to the playoffs and deep runs in the playoffs, like you just keep rolling the dice. It's actually Theo Epstein.

Speaker 1 That's kind of his whole strategy. He's like, the playoffs is the goal.
What happens after that? There's a lot of like bounces and weird shit that happen.

Speaker 1 Just get to the playoffs every year and one year it will happen.

Speaker 8 It's it's definitely that way in college basketball, too, where if you like, look at you look at coaches that have won national championships.

Speaker 1 Uh,

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 8 a lot of them aren't even with their best teams that they ever had. You know, and like even like Bill Self went in the 2020 title.

Speaker 8 It was funny to me because I didn't, I all, all that season, I didn't think that that Kansas team was a special Kansas team as compared to like other teams that he's had.

Speaker 8 But to that point, like you just keep you keep knocking on the door, eventually you're gonna break through.

Speaker 8 But I, I don't, I don't know what they're i don't i yeah i i that it's so unique because i do think the lakers and celtics do view their two franchises as if we don't win a title as a failure of a season um so i don't i i don't know what what's going to happen with that yeah i mean we're going to know a lot more by the time this comes out i'm hoping the celtics are eliminated because i think hank unfortunately is right that if they win two they're winning four

Speaker 3 i've resigned myself to math he's done that he did that math and also jake pointed out this was an all-time jake moment because i don't think he even realized that he was falling into the trap of being us, being real dumbasses talking about sports.

Speaker 3 And he was saying, game six is game seven.

Speaker 3 And then by that extension, game five, we're about to watch game six.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 3 So we just got done with game five last night.

Speaker 8 I am so confident.

Speaker 8 I understand I'm jinxing this, and this will be thrown back in my face, but I am so confident that the Celtics will not beat the Heat in this series.

Speaker 3 I just need to hear somebody say it.

Speaker 8 That it is actually kind of freaking me out how confident I am, I guess.

Speaker 8 It is so bizarre to me how this team is lifeless. This team hates each other.
This team, like on and on and on, and they win one game, and now we have a series.

Speaker 8 I think the pressure's on the team that now has to win three straight games from here to keep their season alive versus the team that has to win one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I wouldn't agree with that.

Speaker 8 I think the pressure is still on the seller.

Speaker 1 Well, Hank paused when we asked him if game five was a must-win. He was like,

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 8 I think the pressure might be on the team with a coach who everyone wants fired, and the team that, like, every day they're putting out stories about how much they hate each other.

Speaker 8 And how, like, I don't know. I don't understand why everyone's acting like the pressure's on the heat.

Speaker 3 It's funny because if the Celtics, if they somehow end up winning the series and luck their way into an NBA championship, I could still see a sizable amount of Celtics fanbase being like, you got to fire Joe Bazula.

Speaker 3 Yeah. This offseason, like, regardless.

Speaker 8 So, okay, what is what is the funniest

Speaker 8 if we're if the Boston haters out there need help trying to process what's going on here? Um, what, What is the funniest outcome from here? Because I think

Speaker 8 sweeps obviously off the board.

Speaker 8 Game five will have already happened by every time everyone's listened to this, but if they lose maybe game seven blowout. Game seven blowout in Boston,

Speaker 8 coming back, winning this series, but then like getting swept by the Nuggets in the finals.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we should talk about the Nuggets.

Speaker 1 We don't talk enough about the Nuggets.

Speaker 3 Before we get to the Nuggets, I do.

Speaker 1 We don't.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 8 That's how everyone does it. We should talk about the Nuggets.
Anyway, back to the...

Speaker 1 Yeah, LeBron might retire. No,

Speaker 3 I want to talk about the Celtics again, real quick. Historically great franchise.
When you think of the NBA, you think Boston Celtics, right? Boston Celtics.

Speaker 3 You would think that they'd be able to have any pick of any coach that they wanted. This offseason, they fire Missoula.
Let's just say hypothetically, they fire him. Probably going to happen.

Speaker 3 Who should the Celtics be looking at?

Speaker 8 Brad Stevens? Brad Stevens. Guy in the room.
Would Brad Stevens hire himself to coach? I think he would. I think Brad's done coaching, unfortunately.

Speaker 1 It's got to be such a better life. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, such a better life to be able to just sit up in the suites and just not have to stress every moment.

Speaker 3 You know what's great about his position is he has virtually no accountability. So his job, if somebody, if the guy that he hires ends up sucking, he can just be like, that guy let me down.

Speaker 3 That guy stinks. I'm going to get a new guy.
And nobody's going to be like, Brad Stevens, you're bad at this.

Speaker 1 It would be very weird if they, I know that people want to fire Joe Missoula, but now you're four coaches in four years.

Speaker 1 that's that's and that's a very weird feeling to be like when is it the players i know the eme udoka thing like he wouldn't have been fired because that's different but still it is four four coaches in four years is weird that's a weird yeah i i agree that's that's i that's that's what i think makes boston so fascinating right now and i do think that that um as much as it was crazy to me to see celtics fans booing their team when the season wasn't even over uh I

Speaker 8 understand that there's like more of a this season feels for Boston like a a crisis point like something is going to change one way or another either they're going to get over the hump make history and go on to the finals coming down uh 03 or like something's going to have something's going to have to change it's just like no one can really figure out what should happen and how it should happen whether it's coaches and play like how do you blow it up

Speaker 1 well they're right at that crossroads where they are about to pay two guys the most like ever yeah and they both probably deserve it and they're both young so it's yeah it's fascinating to see what the future holds.

Speaker 8 I think the funniest outcome,

Speaker 8 if you're cheering for the demise of Boston, is a game set. Joe Missoula does just enough to keep his job.

Speaker 8 The Celtics are just successful enough that they run it back next year with the exact same team, the exact same coach, and everything.

Speaker 8 But they don't actually... win anything.
Right.

Speaker 8 If we could find that middle ground, that would be the funniest.

Speaker 3 So speaking of the Nuggets, they just beat the Lakers. I don't know if you saw this.
Kyrie Irving was court side at that Lakers game.

Speaker 3 What do you think about Kyrie teaming up with LeBron, running that back? Maybe he's the missing piece next year. Is LeBron going to be?

Speaker 11 He's coming back. Is he coming back?

Speaker 3 You know, you're probably good friends with him.

Speaker 1 No, that doesn't.

Speaker 8 I don't think. But he said he might retire, so I think he might actually retire.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's going to retire.

Speaker 1 He's not going to do retirement. I'll bet $10,000.

Speaker 3 He's going to pay off $1,000 that LeBron James does not retire.

Speaker 1 I have to get a cat if he retires.

Speaker 3 He's not retiring.

Speaker 1 He's not retiring. Ever.
Ever. Zero.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Ever.

Speaker 1 LeBron, LeBron retiring that would be the moment that truly would make me confront my own mortality yeah human being if if lebron all right let's entertain it though um if it's good nuggets talk i like it would be funny though it would also be funny if lebron never retires but he keeps decreasing uh the percentage where like when he's 55 he's like i'm still better than like 10 of the league

Speaker 1 like it just keeps going down and down um

Speaker 8 Would you respect him more?

Speaker 8 Would you feel like you would have to look in the mirror a little bit with the way we've viewed LeBron as a human being and his ego and all that sort of thing? If in fact,

Speaker 8 well, he's not, but I'm just doing a thought exercise. If in fact he's done and he kind of does a J.
Wright move where it's like, whoa, that kind of came out of nowhere. And this is it.

Speaker 8 And we never see LeBron play in the NBA again and he just goes off into the sunset after being swept. Would you look in the mirror and be like, maybe I had this guy wrong?

Speaker 3 Yeah, I mean, I'd respect Ted Kaczynski more as a writer if he didn't attach a bunch of C4 to his packages, but that's not going to happen with LeBron.

Speaker 3 Like, yeah, hypothetically, Mark, yes, I would respect that.

Speaker 1 No, I would.

Speaker 3 If LeBron just said, you know what, I'm done. I don't need the fanfare.
I'm walking away. I'm focused on being.

Speaker 8 If LeBron James did something he's never done before and changed everything about his campaign.

Speaker 1 No, I would. I would.
Absolutely. Like, not because,

Speaker 1 I mean, he's going to do the retirement tour. It's going to be two years long, three years long, and people are going to get fatigued with it.

Speaker 1 If he just walked off and was like, no, no, you guys didn't believe me.

Speaker 1 I actually am done. I would respect the hell out of that.

Speaker 8 I would say that'd be, it's not going to happen.

Speaker 1 No, no. It would be.

Speaker 3 But Kyrie with the Lakers. Speaking, let's talk some nuggets here.

Speaker 3 So, if Kyrie, if Kyrie had played on the Lakers this year, if he had been traded to the Lakers instead of to Dallas, do you think that the Lakers would have beaten the Nuggets?

Speaker 8 No. No.

Speaker 1 No. The answer is no.
Yeah, no, no, no.

Speaker 8 That's correct.

Speaker 8 So

Speaker 8 I did get a little sad watching.

Speaker 8 This was the first time watching LeBron where

Speaker 1 my own mortality factored into watching the like this is the first time because he ran out again he ran out again like he you saw it in the first half over and over and over again i was like damn yeah it was like the first half was like he is emptying the tank yeah and to empty the tank it was basically like a fighter throwing a bunch of punches and none of none of them having any impact like lands a perfect punch and the guy's just standing there like that's the best you got and he kept pushing the button and it wasn't working and he just kind of like yeah it was it was very and honestly it speaks to how good the nuggets were too i mean i think i think lebron thought he could just i mean i don't know what he like i i i honestly what i respect the hell out of game four because he very easily could have like packed it in and he was going balls to the wall but um the nuggets were were just way better well i mean jokic so speaking of the nuggets jokic has was has been phenomenal in the playoffs Does it make you like if you had an MVP vote, would you take it away from Embiid because Embiid's a loser, like talking about Embiid?

Speaker 8 I would take the MVP away from you.

Speaker 1 I would too.

Speaker 3 What would you do about the Sixers? You blow the Sixers up?

Speaker 1 Yeah, though. Speaking of Yoko, Max is mad now.

Speaker 1 Embiid,

Speaker 1 tell me this. Tell me this.

Speaker 3 Hot take.

Speaker 1 You played basketball. You've been around a lot of good basketball players.
You know a lot of the guys. Is there such a thing as just not having that dog in them and being kind of a loser?

Speaker 1 Like, Embiid's a phenomenal basketball player. Yeah.
Kind of a loser.

Speaker 8 I do think.

Speaker 1 Okay. It's a great question.

Speaker 8 to answer your question, yes.

Speaker 8 There's defenderly guys who do have the dog in them and don't. And

Speaker 8 it has become a meme at this point, but

Speaker 8 there's very much something to that.

Speaker 8 What I struggle with trying to figure out is is it something you're born with or is it something you can learn along the way?

Speaker 1 Can you get can you grow it? Can you learn how to be a dog?

Speaker 8 Yeah, can you learn how to be a dog? Can you be around

Speaker 8 if you get like the right teammate that gets brought into the mix and teaches you the ways I think think

Speaker 3 you can get domesticated from a wolf to a dog. Like if you're a real wild kid and you're coming out and you play on that edge, then you can get brought back.

Speaker 3 I feel like Jimmy Butler was a wolf and now he's got that dog in him. Okay.

Speaker 1 He's half wolf. But that was

Speaker 8 you're saying he was like too crazy. Yeah.
He's brought it down to a manageable level.

Speaker 3 But he's still got that instinct in him.

Speaker 8 Can it work the other way, though, where you're like a little too passive, a little too soft?

Speaker 3 Right.

Speaker 1 I don't think you can turn a cat into a dog. Yeah.
You know what?

Speaker 3 I think it was, was it John Thompson at Georgetown who said like if you have you need you need two dogs on each team. Two dogs can get you a championship.
Five dogs will get you fired.

Speaker 1 So you have to make a lot of sense.

Speaker 3 You have to be able to like

Speaker 3 on average on your team, you need two of those guys that have that.

Speaker 8 But I don't think.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like making the whole plane out of Ron Artest. Wouldn't work.
That would not work. Can't work.
Would not work.

Speaker 3 But I think it's a lot tougher to get a guy that's soft and then turn him hard.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you can gain the dog.

Speaker 8 I don't know if you can.

Speaker 1 Who, Billy? Go ahead, Billy.

Speaker 1 Billy's freaking.

Speaker 9 You can gain the dog.

Speaker 1 So give us an example.

Speaker 9 Intense trauma.

Speaker 1 Girlfriend breaks up with you. All right, so back to what we're saying.
No, no, no, no, but Billy, just unpack that for a second.

Speaker 3 What type of intense trauma? Girlfriend breaks up with you.

Speaker 9 You all got a buddy, funny, good looking. Then, like, he gets a mean streak and he just comes back mean.

Speaker 1 You're like, oh, shit. By the way, I just want to pause.
I want to pause for a second and just say that, Billy, you've had a pretty nice life when you're like intense trauma.

Speaker 1 Girlfriend breaks up with you.

Speaker 1 No, no, but like the worst thing that could possibly happen.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. Your girlfriend just like this is a bad thing.

Speaker 9 But that's a classic example where you see a dude.

Speaker 1 I would say like death probably is more like

Speaker 9 something like that. You just come, you see like your buddy comes back with a mean streak alive.
It happens. Like girl breaks up with him.

Speaker 1 Then he like gets like your buddy loses a beer pong tournament. Girls on you.

Speaker 3 Then you just get mean. Oh, if you get cucked?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 So what you're saying is like somebody needs to cuck Jason Tanner.

Speaker 1 You just need to get immense.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to actually think of an example in sports. Like, even Anthony Davis, he was with the dog, LeBron James, and

Speaker 1 he didn't get the dog from him. Like, he wasn't in, it wasn't.
So, like, is there been a lot of people?

Speaker 8 It's especially bad with Big Men going back to beaten Anthony Davis and, you know, DeAndre Ayton gets killed for this all the time.

Speaker 1 No dog.

Speaker 8 That. The big men are the worst because it's twofold.
That one, they have been put on a track from the second they were like, you know, in first grade and they were bigger than everybody.

Speaker 8 They were told, like, you're going to be a basketball player, you're going to be a basketball player.

Speaker 8 That I think by the time they make the NBA and you're in your mid-20s, you're almost 30, whatever it is, part of you is probably like, I never fucking like this.

Speaker 1 But I assume all big men

Speaker 1 don't love basketball.

Speaker 8 But then the other part, but then what makes like us as fans go crazy is that all of us watching basketball are like, oh my God, if I was seven feet tall, I would just destroy everybody at all times.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 8 How is this guy given this gift and not.

Speaker 8 So, yeah, the big men stand out more as

Speaker 8 when it feels like they don't have the dog in them.

Speaker 3 I'm going to speak for Max here because I know that he was thinking about this when he said that. I don't think Joellen Bead started playing basketball until he was, what, like, 14 years old,

Speaker 3 12 years old, something like that. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I'm pretty sure he played volleyball. He was a volleyball.
As for his youth? Yeah.

Speaker 3 I think you might be able to grow a dog if you have other dogs around you. That's what I mean.
That are stronger.

Speaker 1 You run within your

Speaker 3 alpha dogs that kind of show you how to become a follower. follower.
So I would say maybe, maybe some of the guys on the old Pistons teams.

Speaker 3 So you had Ben Wallace, certified dog. Rashid Wallace, certified dog.
I think Rip Hamilton became a dog.

Speaker 1 That's a good point. After he got heat.
He was pretty damn doggish, though, at UConn. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Chauncey.

Speaker 3 Chauncey might not have been a dog.

Speaker 1 Here's one. What about Chris Bosch? Did he kind of get a little dog with the heat? Because remember, at the Raptors, he was called soft.

Speaker 8 That's a good point. That Chris Bosch is a good example.

Speaker 1 He might be the example of a guy who gained some dogs.

Speaker 3 He was a bitch, then he became a dog in here.

Speaker 1 He got a little heat culture in his life. Yeah, he got heat culture.
He got Dwayne Wade. He got Hasm, LeBron.
Yeah. Getting him tougher.

Speaker 1 That's a good point. He might be my biggest dog.
He might be the example. Andrew Wiggins.

Speaker 8 Andrew Wiggins did come to mind, but I don't think he... I think he got.

Speaker 8 So Andrew Wiggins is a good case of is having the dog in you a binary thing where it's yes or no? Right.

Speaker 8 Because I think he's got a scosh of like, he's definitely gotten more, but I would still vote that he's not.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 8 If it's a yes or no, I would say no, but I think he's like 45% there. It's a slight no.

Speaker 1 He's like a small dog, like barking at the fence because he knows there's a fucking huge dog right behind him in Draymond Green.

Speaker 1 Where it's like, I know I can do this because I know that if push comes to shove, I got my big dog to back me up.

Speaker 8 Did Steve Kerr, like being punched in the face by Michael Jordan, if Steve Kerr wasn't on those Bulls teams.

Speaker 1 I think he had the dog from Billy Intense Trauma getting broken up with your girlfriend or your dad getting assassinated. Kind of the same thing.
Yeah. He probably gained the dog there.

Speaker 3 Also, Steve Kerr, by sticking around and still competing and playing at high level after your teammate punches you in the face, that's dog mentality. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 3 It would be cat mentality to just quit, walk away.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 This is great.

Speaker 1 I like this. We're really like hammering down on it.

Speaker 3 Hypothetically, envision a world where Chris Paul becomes a dog. Who does Chris Paul need to be around to become a dog?

Speaker 8 Not Kevin Durant and DeAndre.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Devin Walker, I would say. I would say no.
He might be a dog. He's just too small.

Speaker 1 But what.

Speaker 8 He is.

Speaker 3 Like, is there anybody in the NBA?

Speaker 1 What about him? Chris feels like a dog, though. He's kind of dirty.

Speaker 8 He's kind of... He's more of a bitch.

Speaker 1 Yeah, probably.

Speaker 8 He's more of a.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he probably is more of a bitch. You're right.

Speaker 1 There goes our Chris Paul interview.

Speaker 3 It's funny because, like,

Speaker 1 I said that. We've already said a bunch of stuff.
He got offered to us. We're like, yeah, we'd love to have him on.
Do you know what we say?

Speaker 1 We'll find out.

Speaker 3 Chris Paul is, objectively speaking, much better than Baron Davis was, but I would much rather have Baron Davis on my team in a big game.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 I don't think anyone else who's gained it, who's gained that dog to him.

Speaker 1 This is a great.

Speaker 8 I'm sure the.

Speaker 3 There have probably been some relief pitchers that get, or some pitchers that get moved to being a closer, and then they only have to pitch one inning, and then they're like, oh, this guy figured it out.

Speaker 3 No, he only has to go out there and throw nine pitches 100 miles per hour.

Speaker 1 There's also some dog presenting players where if you actually look into it, like, I'll say it,

Speaker 1 is Zion a dog? No. No, no.
But he is dog presenting because he's physically like such a specimen. And he's had, when he has been on the court, he's been special, but he might not be a dog.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 8 This is a great...

Speaker 8 This is what I'm going to do tonight.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just go through all the NBA players and just be like, dog or no.

Speaker 10 What happens with Dame?

Speaker 3 He's a certified dog.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 But he has no pack to run with.

Speaker 8 Dame and Jimmy Butler are probably my two favorite guys. Two favorite Americans, I should say, in the NBA at this point, because they feel like the only two guys.
that just hate everybody. And

Speaker 8 they just like, they're not buddy-buddy.

Speaker 1 It's the old school Derek Rose when he was like pissed at LeBron for dancing and stuff. Like, I love him.
Yeah. Like that mentality of like, hey, we're not friends.

Speaker 8 I do think that that is like the part of the NBA that's turned off a lot of people. Like, there's a million reasons, you know, and especially you go in the middle American and

Speaker 1 why they don't like China.

Speaker 8 The NBA, they'll give you a million reasons.

Speaker 8 Um, but I do think that like the first thing if I could make one fix immediately for next season, it would be if there was some way to make the players not all be best friends again.

Speaker 8 That would be my first thing. They just all hate each other.

Speaker 8 If they all like looked at each other like Dame and Jimmy Butler look at the rest of the league.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it would be awesome.

Speaker 8 That would be awesome.

Speaker 8 That's that's but I don't know how you do that because all these guys are in like a small fraternity of dudes that like I was saying earlier that like when they're 12 years old, they're told you're going to play in the NBA and then they all like find each other at academies and then become best friends.

Speaker 3 The NBA and the way that basketball is set up down to the AAU leveling up kind of it made that behavior happen because the players were exploited for so long in the NBA.

Speaker 3 The league was making tons of money. Players weren't allowed to make anything going to college.
They weren't even allowed to jump directly to the NBA for a little bit.

Speaker 3 Then they were, then they're not.

Speaker 3 It's been stacked against the players for a long time.

Speaker 3 And so coming up with that environment, the players were actually smart to band together as young as they have to be like, hey, listen, we need to be on the same page to maximize how much money we're going to make, help our families out, that whole thing.

Speaker 3 I get that.

Speaker 3 That's actually a smart thing that they've done. But now the players have all the power.

Speaker 3 And it does seem like it would be a much better product if they somehow figured out a way to financially be on the same page in terms of collective bargaining and all that, but at the same time, just hate the shit out of it.

Speaker 8 I wish there's a way all the players can make as much money as they're making because ultimately, if it's coming down to like the billionaire owners versus the millionaire players, like I don't, you know, I don't really care.

Speaker 8 I'd give the players a ton of money, but I wish there was a way they could make the money. They just don't know they're making that much money.
Because

Speaker 8 I wish there's a way you could weed out the guys that don't want to be there. Because I was saying

Speaker 8 all these these big dudes that

Speaker 8 they're not going to quit playing basketball because they make so much damn money

Speaker 8 but there was if you romanticize the past of the NBA to have the the the years where like the superstars were making one or two million dollars a year like back in the 70s or 80s or whatever there there there probably was more of a love for the game type shit like the guys who are out there were we're not doing it because they're gonna get generational wealth they were doing it because they just want to beat the shit out of the guy on the other team yeah so if there's a way we could like pay these players but not actually they don't know

Speaker 8 like when they retire, it's like, by the way, here's the $400 million.

Speaker 3 That'd be nice if at the end of every season, there was like an AI script that just took all the minutes you played, all your stats, your playoff wins, all that.

Speaker 3 And at the end of every season, there's like bank account reveal day.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you get paid for what you did that year.

Speaker 8 Because it does piss me off. Like LeBron, he had the one famous press conference when he was a, it was asked about his haters.

Speaker 8 And he's like, at the end of the day, they got to wake up to their shitty lives, and I'm still going to be.

Speaker 8 that attitude.

Speaker 8 I mean, one, you're jealous when you're a fan and you see all that, but the other part is like, you want this to you, you don't want like when the Phoenix Suns are getting eliminated from the playoffs,

Speaker 8 Devin Booker and Kevin Durant to just be shrugging their shoulders and be like, fuck it, we're rich as shit, dude. Like, yeah, you know, who cares?

Speaker 1 No, yeah, right. You want that life goes on?

Speaker 3 You think that, but don't, please don't remind me where

Speaker 1 it's a weird setup because it's good perspective by the players, but also not what fans want to hear. Like, they're actually having that healthy perspective.

Speaker 1 on life. Very healthy, but also, yeah, it's not.

Speaker 1 We actually should probably take a healthier perspective. Like, it's only a game.

Speaker 8 I'm trying to figure out how we get both, and I think that ship has sailed, unfortunately, but yeah.

Speaker 3 They're not going to hit each other.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So going off LeBron, and we're talking about the Nuggets versus the Lakers. How good do you think Bronnie Jr.
is going to be at USC?

Speaker 8 I don't think he's going to start. And I think that.

Speaker 1 You have to start him. Come on.

Speaker 8 They are going. I mean,

Speaker 8 they have

Speaker 8 the number one recruit in the country is going to start over. I'm like, I don't understand.

Speaker 8 This is what's fascinating to me about USC is that Andy Infield has just kind of overnight become the John Caliperry type guy who's just like the roster construction of having Dennis Rodman's son transferred from Washington State.

Speaker 8 You have Bronnie James. You have the number one recruit in the country, Isaiah Collins, one of the number one recruits in the country.

Speaker 8 They have dudes coming back that are very good.

Speaker 8 I don't think he's going to start, but I think he's going to be a very, very good player.

Speaker 8 But because his name is Bronny James and he's going to come off the bench and he's going to be a great defender, he is a great defender. He is a good shooter.

Speaker 8 I think he's going to be very successful in his role for USC,

Speaker 8 but he is going to get killed for it because he's not going to start an average 20 points a game.

Speaker 3 Counterpoint, he's LeBron James' son, and LeBron James controls everything in basketball.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 8 you know what I you think that they you think USC's coach is secure enough in his position but I can afford to tune out I do think I think I think LeBron is smart enough to know what's best for Bronny would be coming off the bench now he's gonna have to deal with like I said like the media circus of as USC season wears on and he keeps coming off the bench

Speaker 8 And everyone's going to be talking about, does he actually suck? But as far as like his actual basketball development, putting him in that role would be great for him.

Speaker 8 Yeah, because it's just a matter of whether.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, going from the bench to eventually, if he's good enough to starting, is a great story. Starting and then going to the bench is, that's the failure.
Yeah. But

Speaker 8 they have Boogie Ellis back. They have

Speaker 8 like the

Speaker 8 UFC's backcore is very, very, very good.

Speaker 8 And I think like,

Speaker 8 but that's what's fascinating, I guess, that Andy Anfield has put himself in a position where it's like, are you trying to talk about like taking the John Caliperi route where are you trying to win games in college or are you trying to like do something else where you're like building a brand of UFC basketball?

Speaker 8 And I don't know what the right move is in 2023 at this point, but if he's trying to win games, Bronny should come off the bench. And that's not because Bronny's bad.

Speaker 8 It's because I think that's the best role for everyone on the team.

Speaker 1 Is Cal, is this a hot seat here for Cal? Well, yeah, I can't believe we went this long without asking because they do have a really good team.

Speaker 8 They have, this Kentucky team is going to be wild. This Kentucky team is Robert Dillingham and DJ Wagner.

Speaker 8 They have a great recruiting class, class, but those two dudes,

Speaker 8 I'm not a recruiting expert, but I am a guy that gets on YouTube and Googles recruits every so often.

Speaker 1 Have you watched the Gus Bus yet? I have watched. I watched

Speaker 1 it.

Speaker 1 I might call him baby Jokic, by the way. I'm still assigned.
It's a chubbier kid in Wisconsin who's committed to the Badgers, who has the smoothest big game, chubby big game ever. And his name is Gus.

Speaker 1 Literal name is Gus. The Gus Bus.
He's a Gus Bus, yeah.

Speaker 1 Go on about the bus.

Speaker 8 The two Kentucky freshmen, they have a bunch of freshmen coming in. They're awesome, but the two headliners

Speaker 8 love having the ball in their hands and they love dribbling it and they love going nowhere with their dribbles.

Speaker 1 And they love

Speaker 1 that.

Speaker 1 I like

Speaker 1 it.

Speaker 8 But they're also super talented. So

Speaker 8 it's going to be a fascinating Kentucky team for sure.

Speaker 1 What about so?

Speaker 3 Cal, as far as a recruiter goes, obviously he's one of the best to ever do it. What about as an exes nose guy?

Speaker 3 Has the criticism been warranted of Coach Cal?

Speaker 8 I think the criticism is warranted in the sense of all the talent he's had through the years.

Speaker 8 He's doing things.

Speaker 8 If you want to defend him, you would say that he's playing a game that no one else has been playing. And

Speaker 8 managing the egos and handling a bunch of freshmen year in and year out and having the revolving door of talent is tougher than it looks.

Speaker 8 But at the same time, I mean, if you're watching the playoffs this year in the first round and you just stop and count up all the guys that are scoring 40 points every night in the NBA that played in Kentucky for John Caliperry, and he's won one title.

Speaker 8 It is pretty wild to think about.

Speaker 8 But no, at this point, Cal is

Speaker 8 the criticism's warranted of how he approaches the game, and Kentucky fans are like losing their minds over lineups and

Speaker 8 all that sort of thing. So

Speaker 8 I love this Nuggets talk.

Speaker 1 This is great. Yeah, no,

Speaker 3 I do have a Nuggets question because they are advancing the finals.

Speaker 3 A lot of people have doubted the Nuggets over the years. I don't consider myself to be one of them.
I'm leaning from the front on the Nuggets.

Speaker 3 What do the Celtics have to do to beat the Nuggets in the NBA Finals?

Speaker 1 Who guards Jokic?

Speaker 1 Can't put Al Horford on him.

Speaker 8 I love the Nuggets, to me, feel like

Speaker 8 I've been making this comparison for a few weeks, and I'm getting more confident in it. They feel like the Warriors of 2015.

Speaker 8 The feeling I have watching them feels very similar to, like, when the Warriors were first, before they ripped off all their titles, if you remember, Charles Barkley is the name that comes to mind because I just remember Barkley being on TV every night.

Speaker 8 Like, they're fun, they're good, they're not winning the title, they can't win the title because they're soft and they jump shoot, and they jump shoot, yeah.

Speaker 8 Jump shooting teams can't win the title, it can't happen, best thing to think about. It can happen, yeah.

Speaker 8 Um, and I feel like that's kind of where we were at with the Nuggets, where uh, I think everyone agreed that they're a great team, but are they a great regular season team? Are they too soft?

Speaker 8 Can they play defense? Uh, they Adding KCP and Aaron Gordon has been great defensively, and Bruce Brown's been. So they've made some tweaks to address their issues.

Speaker 8 They're still not a defensive-minded team, though.

Speaker 8 So there's been concerns about whether a team that's so heavily offensive-minded can, you know, you have to play some sort of defense because as much as the Warriors light up the scoreboard, they're like, Oh, they play great defense.

Speaker 8 They play still play great defense when they're winning titles.

Speaker 8 But yeah, that's where I feel very similar things watching this Nuggets team that I felt watching the Warriors in 2015 where I'm like, I don't think they, but at the same time, goddamn, they're good.

Speaker 8 And Jokic, the stuff he does feels like Steph. Yeah.

Speaker 8 I don't mean the same stuff. I just mean like the

Speaker 8 way you just like start cackling, laughing, watching him play, and you're like, how is this man?

Speaker 1 Well, and they actually are similar in the fact that when you're watching Jokic or Steph, the defense has to basically always like, it's almost like a vacuum where everyone has to collapse on them because they're so dangerous that you get open shots for everyone else.

Speaker 8 And you think he's good for, like, like with Steph, you think the reason he's good is because he's such a great shooter. And it is, but Steph's an incredible passer.

Speaker 1 Steph's an incredible ball handler.

Speaker 8 Steph does all these other things really well that if you get

Speaker 8 caught up in thinking like, all we have to do is, because that was the thing with Steph when he first came into the league that

Speaker 8 people that didn't really know what the hell they were talking about with him is like, why don't you just crawl up into him and like not let him get a shot?

Speaker 8 Just put a hand in his face and not let him get a shot of him. It's like, well, he's going to dribble right past you.
Or he's going to... Jokic is the same way where

Speaker 8 that was what was cracking me out after game one with the Lakers, where Rui Hachimura guarded Jokic at the end of game one for like six possessions.

Speaker 8 And because the Nuggets were up by 40 and then won by 25, it was like the Lakers have figured something out.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 8 But I was laughing at it because I'm like, as soon as you think you figured out Jokic, he can do so many other things well that there is no.

Speaker 1 He's not good because he's a good shooter.

Speaker 8 He's not good because he's a good passer. He's not good because he, he's good because he's a great basketball player.

Speaker 8 He could do any, he could, if you double team team him every time he touches the ball, he will kill you and he will be the best player on the floor.

Speaker 8 If you don't double team him every time he touches the ball, he will kill you and he will be the best player on the floor.

Speaker 1 Do you know what it is? It's another debate. And you're absolutely right.

Speaker 1 When people were tweeting, like, oh, yeah, Jokic hasn't scored in the fourth quarter. It's like, but do you understand that he is making all these shits happen?

Speaker 1 Like, they're all scoring because of him.

Speaker 1 Hooper versus basketball player. Jokic is a hooper.

Speaker 8 Jokic is a hooper, yeah.

Speaker 1 And then there's basketball players. Jalen Brown's a basketball player.
Okay, so actually, hold on. It's the other way around.
Hold on.

Speaker 8 Because it seems like you're heading down a road where a basketball player is not good. No,

Speaker 1 no, no, they are good, but

Speaker 1 it doesn't seem as natural. Like, Kevin Durant's a hooper.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 But I think there are hoopers that are, like, I think Jordan Poole's a hooper, and I would love Jordan Poole to be more of a basketball player at times.

Speaker 3 I think that's why, you remember when USA basketball hit that swoon in the 2000s? We had a shitload of hoopers.

Speaker 1 Way too many hoopers.

Speaker 3 We're all hoopers. Like, our three-point threats were, I think, like, Jason Richardson

Speaker 3 was like our dead eye outside shooter. and we were getting bodied by Argentinians and Eastern Europeans because they're basketball players.

Speaker 3 I think basketball players better than Hooper

Speaker 3 if you're at like that top level.

Speaker 8 Yeah, it depends on what you're, I guess, you want out of it depends on the role.

Speaker 8 For your superstar, you want a Hooper, I think.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because Jokic can do everything, and he also, it's just

Speaker 1 natural for him. Like, everything is fluid and feels natural when you're watching it.
Yeah, where it doesn't, like, he's not, he's never thinking it feels like he's, he's, he's, he's incredible.

Speaker 1 It's all innate.

Speaker 8 It

Speaker 8 It is hilarious that he did not win the MVP.

Speaker 1 I don't really care.

Speaker 8 I think it is valid to give a guy an MVP because you're bored with the guy that's won it the last two years. I think that's a fair.
Fair fatigue for you. I think ultimately, like,

Speaker 8 it's a fucking entertainment. You know, like, the whole reason the NBA exists is just for

Speaker 8 storylines and entertainment, whatever. And if you decide we've given it to this guy two years in a row, we kind of want some new blood in there.
That checks out. But it is hilarious that,

Speaker 8 you know, like,

Speaker 8 from from my understanding, the reason you didn't want to give it to Jokic is because he keeps coming up short in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Right. So we give it to him.

Speaker 1 Jokic might win the title. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I mean, a lot of guys don't understand what a smart player Jokic is. I do.
Me and LeBron. We both understand.
We saw from day one what a special guy was.

Speaker 3 I actually think, I think Jokic might be almost as good a passer as Steph Curry is a shooter.

Speaker 8 He's an incredible pet. I mean, he's, he's.

Speaker 3 And his touch is just insane.

Speaker 8 My favorite ones are the floaters where he's jumping off his right foot, shooting with his right hand.

Speaker 8 A shot that,

Speaker 8 you know, when I was coming up in basketball, no one would practice because it'd be absurd if you tried to shot like that.

Speaker 8 Now these guys do practices. This is a guy, if you see the Drew Hanlon workout videos, like they're guys doing like wrong foot jumps with, you know, opposite.
They're doing everything.

Speaker 8 Like the guys are super skilled, but seeing a guy that big and that sloppy who kind of like waddles up and down the court, like shooting wrong-footed, wrong-hand, you know, like

Speaker 1 throw-ins behind the back of the neck. He also has incredible.
Yeah, it really is. And he also has a little bit of

Speaker 1 similar to like Paul Pierce, where Paul Pierce wasn't the most athletic or the fastest guy, but there's like never, it's all deliberate steps.

Speaker 1 Like, Jokic knows where he's going and the deliberate step. Like, he doesn't have to beat you with speed if he uses deliberate steps, right? Yeah.

Speaker 8 I think, too, as I'm thinking with the Steph comparison and the Warriors comparison and all that, Steph and Jokic both have

Speaker 8 the feeling as you're watching them that it feels like you're watching yourself. Because Jokic being a bigger boy that is not exactly chiseled, feels like he's overweight or whatever.

Speaker 8 I think there's an element of, like, you almost forget he's seven feet tall. Right.

Speaker 8 So when you're watching him, you're like, that kind of looks like me when I, you know, and the same, people are doing the same thing with Steph.

Speaker 8 We're like, Steph, Steph's, like, the lore of Steph Curry has been built to where he's just like this 5'7,

Speaker 8 like, underdog.

Speaker 1 I'm like this

Speaker 8 son of an NBA player, like an all-American volleyball player.

Speaker 1 And he's a a tall person.

Speaker 1 He's like,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 8 He's got incredible genetics. I know.

Speaker 8 But when you're watching him, you're like, that could be me out there because I'm not that big either.

Speaker 8 So I think this sense of wonder as you're watching both of those guys,

Speaker 8 the optical illusion, I think, plays into it as well.

Speaker 3 It would be very funny if, you know, we joke about how Steph Curry ruined basketball, where now everybody goes out on the court.

Speaker 3 If you're a kid, if you're like the biggest kid out there, you still want to shoot from 40 feet out because you want to be Steph.

Speaker 3 What if the opposite, what if Jokic just dominates for the next 10 years in the NBA and every kid grows up trying to be Jokic, even like the little kids?

Speaker 8 There's just an influx of fat people.

Speaker 1 Yeah, in basketball.

Speaker 3 I mean, that would be good for the league, I think, just loaded up with a bunch of fatties.

Speaker 1 Gospas.

Speaker 1 He's going to get chiseled, but he's fab.

Speaker 1 But he's also 18.

Speaker 3 All right, so Nuggets and how many?

Speaker 8 I do think if the Celtics come back, I guess this is the reality

Speaker 8 we have to live in, that the Celtics are going to come back and beat the Heat.

Speaker 8 The Nuggets are the best team left in the NBA. I mean, the Celtics at their best might be better than the Celtics.

Speaker 8 I don't know that that becomes a debate, but I just don't understand why everyone keeps thinking the Celtics are going to do the one thing they... I don't know, but they keep surviving.

Speaker 8 I guess I'm talking myself into it now. I'm so confident that they're not going to win.

Speaker 3 Like I keep saying, they're down 3-1, Mark.

Speaker 11 3-1.

Speaker 1 It's never happened. It's never happened.
But you bet on them, so that makes it... You bet on the Heat, which makes it...

Speaker 1 The first time I was nervous about the Celtics coming back and actually doing this is them winning and PFT doing that bet. Because that is like that.
That is how it...

Speaker 1 And Hank being able to laugh in your face.

Speaker 1 That is the story of this show.

Speaker 3 Counterpoint, Jake Marsh.

Speaker 1 True.

Speaker 3 I got Jake Marsh on my side.

Speaker 8 Do you remember the times that

Speaker 8 something like this happened and then the Heat went out in game five and won by 19 and

Speaker 8 then they just moved on on, and everyone just forgets. Like, the reason I feel like there's confirmation bias with this stuff.
True.

Speaker 8 Then you remember the Jinxes, but do you remember the time when you were like, there's no world in which the Celtics are going to come back? And then, in fact, the Celtics do not come back.

Speaker 8 And we all just move on.

Speaker 3 I could also see a world where, you know, five years from now, we're still making fun of Hank for his series-clinching game four victory

Speaker 3 in Miami to go down three to one in the playoffs. Yeah.
And the victory lap that he took after that. Yeah,

Speaker 1 it's the Cavs and Warriors, whatever it was, 2017 or or 2018 when they were down. I think the Warriors won game four and everyone's like, whoa, or sorry, the Cavs won game four.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then the Warriors beat them in five. Yeah.
Like, oh, okay, yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 8 Yeah. I think the Nuggets are going to, I mean, the Nuggets have been a machine, and they are,

Speaker 8 it's been fascinating watching people slowly go from like, I think there's a way they could do it to, yeah, they're in the mix to now it's like they are because they're so much deeper than they get credit for.

Speaker 8 Like having Michael Porter Jr.

Speaker 1 be your third option offensively is insane.

Speaker 8 Insane to have that luxury, a 6'10 guy that just lets it rip. And

Speaker 8 there were times Austin Reed was guarding him, and he wasn't even there. And he's trying to put his hand in his face, and Porter just jumping over him and shooting.
Aaron Gordon's awesome.

Speaker 8 This Nuggets team is so freaking fun. And everyone that's worried about a Heat Nuggets finals.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's going to be awesome.

Speaker 8 And they're like, I don't want to watch that.

Speaker 8 You obviously cheer for laundry and not basketball.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 8 the Heat and the Nuggets are the two best teams. To this point, again, the Celtics, as we know, are going to come back and beat the Heat.

Speaker 8 But the Heat have been, the way they've been playing in the playoffs has been awesome and fun to watch. But

Speaker 8 the Nuggets are the most fun team to watch in the NBA. So I don't understand why you would rather have the Lakers and 38-year-old LeBron running out of gas and AD giving half-ass effort.

Speaker 8 D'Angelo Russell, like, is he going to be good tonight or not? Like, why would you want that in the finals versus the team that's

Speaker 1 looking for laundry? That's what they're doing.

Speaker 3 I think that would be the highest disparity possible in terms of elevation between two cities in the finals. Miami and Denver, right?

Speaker 1 New Orleans.

Speaker 3 Miami's.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, New Orleans is below sea level. Yeah, New Orleans, right? Miami is like right at sea.

Speaker 1 I guess New Orleans couldn't play Denver. New Orleans, Utah.
But no, they can't play either.

Speaker 3 So I guess.

Speaker 3 Miami, Utah might be more. Yeah, Miami, Utah.
Is Utah higher?

Speaker 1 These are the really important questions.

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Speaker 1 So, Titus, we are, what, a month, two months away from the Chicago move. Yep.
What are you most looking forward to in the new office? I can't wait till it opens. I can't wait.

Speaker 1 I want to snap my fingers and have it be September 1st.

Speaker 8 September 1st, it's opening for sure. Definitely.
Nothing can go wrong.

Speaker 1 Don't do that. Don't do that.
Don't.

Speaker 1 Is it on track? It is pretty much on track. Really? Yes.
Basically on track. Yes.
Football. TJ.
No, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 8 Is it on track for pardon my take?

Speaker 1 Or is it on track for

Speaker 1 me possibly?

Speaker 1 I have

Speaker 8 TJ said to me,

Speaker 8 he goes,

Speaker 8 he goes, we might have to push back the opening of the office because they don't want to open it in waves. They don't want to open it in stages.

Speaker 8 They want to open it for everybody at the same time.

Speaker 8 But also, pardon my take is going to move in first and then everyone else.

Speaker 1 And I was like, is that not the definition of stages? Well, I mean, I said to Hank, because Hank wanted to wait, and I was like, dude, if we wait till it's fully done, we won't open until January.

Speaker 1 I confidently think we will be in there working. Still have to finish some things by week one of the NFL.
All right. Yeah, I do.
You don't matter.

Speaker 1 No shot. Shut up.
Why are you going to put negative energy out there?

Speaker 8 What has a better chance?

Speaker 11 There's just a difference between what Hank thinks is happening and what BK thinks is happening.

Speaker 1 They're just colliding. Hank wants to do it.
They're just colliding. He wants to do a fucking like cribs, like shiny, you know, ribbon cutting thing.
I want to go to work. I want to go to work.

Speaker 1 When they're ready with a microphone and a chair, get us in.

Speaker 1 I think he's exactly correct.

Speaker 8 We We will be in there first.

Speaker 1 Now, here's totally. Yeah, and then, but there's no way the whole office is in there.
It's a number of people.

Speaker 3 Now, if the Heat win the next game and then Hank's not allowed to golf for all of June, that office is going to open on time.

Speaker 8 He might build this office.

Speaker 1 That's going to open on time.

Speaker 3 If Hank is able to play golf through the month of June, we might not get in there until January. Right.

Speaker 1 Right. Yeah.

Speaker 8 I'm excited whenever it happens. I just, I've been working under the assumption that it's, you know, we need to stop that.

Speaker 1 We need to put positive.

Speaker 8 What has a better chance of happening? The Celtics coming back from down 03 or this office or me. Never mind you guys, because I do, you guys,

Speaker 8 you're going to obviously, rightfully so,

Speaker 8 get in there first and all that.

Speaker 1 It would be me doing our podcast studio is completely finished and they haven't started anything else.

Speaker 1 All the trim.

Speaker 1 You got like all the... Bare wall.

Speaker 3 Brandon Walker would burn the place down. Yeah.
Brandon needs to have his studio done first. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's sharing with Brandon.

Speaker 3 Yeah. It's the Mark Titus show featuring Brandon Walker.

Speaker 8 That would be awesome if my half of the studio was done.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I'll make I can make

Speaker 3 that happen. So, what is the thing that you're most excited for?

Speaker 8 Uh, I'm excited for um

Speaker 8 honestly, this this might sound stupid, but I'm excited to just be around. Like,

Speaker 8 I'm excited to be in a sports city, not to shit on LA. I love LA, I love living there.

Speaker 8 Um, I'm excited to live in a city where I can, on a Saturday, go to a bar and I don't have to tell them to put on the football games or the Sunday.

Speaker 8 I'm actually very excited.

Speaker 8 Every time I go to Chicago and I walk around, and I see Big Ten bumper stickers and flags, yeah, all that sort of thing, it gets the juices pumping. So I'm excited to be around my people, basically.

Speaker 1 And just the office, like I am very excited to take.

Speaker 1 You're here. Oh, you meant like the bar.

Speaker 1 No, no, but that's fine. But you're here for the dozen.
The office has been buzzing. Yeah.
But then you can see when people leave, it like falls flat again. I want buzzing.

Speaker 1 I mean, I'm the same way.

Speaker 8 I, I, I work from home when I was working at the Ringer. They were based in L.A., I'm living in Ohio.

Speaker 8 I was losing my mind working from home. So I was like, I got to get out of here.
I moved to L.A.

Speaker 8 And then I got out there and they're like, yo, we don't really come into the office. I was like, this is crazy.
So then I went to Fox.

Speaker 8 And then the second I go to Fox, COVID happens, and everyone's at home. So this has been, like, I've been starving for an office to go into and

Speaker 8 mix it up with the boys.

Speaker 1 This makes me want to never let up. I'm not going to be able to do the office.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But it's actually, we're all working remote.

Speaker 1 There was no office.

Speaker 1 I would go crazy. I would go crazy.
No, there will be an office. That's why I'm trying to,

Speaker 8 I've gotten to a point where I'm mentally preparing for me to move to Chicago and set up my home office.

Speaker 8 And it will be a luxury if you come to me in September and you're like, we have a studio for you ready if you're going to have.

Speaker 1 I'll fucking grab a shovel. I don't give a fuck.
We need this office.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, Titus, everyone go subscribe to the Mark Titus show on YouTube.

Speaker 1 Thank you, as always. Yeah.
And we'll see you in like a month and a half. Let's do it.

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Speaker 1 Succession season series finale, Sunday night, 90 minutes. I'm so excited.
I don't remember the last time I've been this excited about a series finale, PFT.

Speaker 1 By the way, if you're listening right now, you haven't watched, spoiler alert. We are going to talk about succession.

Speaker 1 So we'll put in a timestamp. If you have not caught up, stop listening right now and jump ahead.

Speaker 1 But we are going to talk, there will be some light spoilers in this preview of the succession series finale.

Speaker 7 Also, before we start,

Speaker 7 in honor of Max and Max, who's his birthday today, I got him a present that I'm going to give to you guys.

Speaker 3 Oh, happy birthday, Max.

Speaker 1 Happy birthday, Max.

Speaker 3 I didn't know it was your birthday.

Speaker 8 How old are you? 40?

Speaker 7 I'm 28. Big Cat was mean on Twitter.

Speaker 11 So I was not 28.

Speaker 1 What did I say?

Speaker 7 You said I was 39, I believe.

Speaker 1 Oh, thumbs.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I thought you were 40.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. Oh, insults.
What are the socks? They're insult socks. Hank got number one dog dad.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 3 He had soul patch socks.

Speaker 1 Look at that.

Speaker 7 That was memes. Shout out to memes.

Speaker 1 These are beautiful.

Speaker 3 Are these for Max or are these for us?

Speaker 1 They're for

Speaker 1 Max's birthday present, yeah. For you guys.
I'll wear a pair as well. We both have a pair.
Number one dog dad. These are so fat.

Speaker 1 Good job, Max.

Speaker 3 Hank, did you make his face fatter in Photoshop?

Speaker 7 This is a meme special.

Speaker 7 I'm just the mess.

Speaker 1 No, I think that's how fat his face is.

Speaker 3 It looks like you got stung by bees.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so it's Max of Palooza right now.

Speaker 1 Happy birthday, Max. Let's talk some succession.
Series finale.

Speaker 1 PFT, where do you want to start?

Speaker 3 Who do you think is going to win?

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 Here's how we'll start it. So what's the play?

Speaker 1 What's the play? I love Succession. It's one of my favorite shows.
It's been a fantastic series.

Speaker 1 If you haven't watched it, you should. I assume most people who are listening right now have watched it.
I do love that now the theories are starting.

Speaker 1 One of my favorite ones is greg is somehow going to climb the the top and win it all i was thinking that that greg might do it but that also feels a lot like brand becoming king at the end of game of thrones so i i i switched off that take i think i think connor is actually going to end up doing something big in the last show so i was thinking about it because it's like oh wouldn't it be fun because you know when you get to the end of a great series like this everyone has their theories everyone wants something crazy to happen i don't think anything crazy is going to happen i think it's going to be in line with the show in in that the theme of the show is everything's transactional.

Speaker 1 These people are brutal, brutal people who have like no morals and they just cut each other's throats. They say, I love you.
Then they cut each other's throats the next day.

Speaker 1 I think it is going to be Kendall because, like I said, I watched the first episode ever, and he was the beginning of the episode. He was supposed to take over then.

Speaker 1 And I think that what we've seen in this

Speaker 1 season is Kendall has slowly, finally morphed into his dad. Where last episode we saw him just like berating

Speaker 1 Roman, being like, you fucked it, you fucked this up. That was very Logan-like.

Speaker 3 And when he's talking to old Skinny Neck, and he was like, listen, Hugo, the H-Man. Listen, this is what's going to happen, Hugo.

Speaker 3 You're going to get, you're going to make millions, but you're going to be my dog.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and he said, woof, woof. Woof, woof.
Yeah, it's a great scene. But, so, yeah, Hugo,

Speaker 1 Jess, his, so I'm basically this all, my theory is based all on the last episode where he tells Roman he fucked it. He basically belittles him.

Speaker 1 He also had a moment where Roman couldn't do, for the second time this season, Roman couldn't step up. He couldn't step up for Live Plus.
He couldn't step up for his dad's obituary. He basically, or

Speaker 1 eulogy,

Speaker 1 Kendall had to go and save the day twice. And he is finally morphed into his father, where he berated Roman.

Speaker 1 He is at odds with Shiv, where they essentially, like, will have no no relationship going forward. You saw the scene where Jess, his assistant, quit, and he's basically alone.

Speaker 1 He then tried to get the,

Speaker 1 what's the guy's Colin? Logan's old bodyguard who knows that Kendall killed a person. He's like, yeah, why don't you come in with me? Like, I have no friends.
You will be my friend.

Speaker 1 That was Logan's only friend in life, essentially. And you also saw the scene with

Speaker 1 his ex-wife and kids, where all of his relationships have completely erased. He has no one left.

Speaker 1 And I think that that is how they're going to end the show, where with no one left, he becomes the king, but at what cost? Literally his entire life.

Speaker 1 And that's kind of what Logan was, whereas like he was the king, but he had no relationship with his kids or good relationship with his kids. Everyone feared him.
Everyone hated him behind his back.

Speaker 1 So it's like he's finally morphed into the final iteration of Logan.

Speaker 3 So he's a tragic figure that could end up becoming successful, but also everybody knows

Speaker 3 he's going to have a bad life moving forward.

Speaker 1 Right. He has no one.
He has no one with him.

Speaker 3 I could see Connor or I could see Kindle, or not Kindle, Roman. going off and doing like a Keith Olbermann, like getting real woke on him and going to the other side.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 I could see Connor turning his back, becoming like the Liz Cheney of that family

Speaker 3 and turning their back on everything that the family was for and trying to score points on the other side.

Speaker 1 Because that happened with the Murdoch. It happened.
Isn't there one Murdoch?

Speaker 1 Is there one? I'm pretty sure one of them

Speaker 1 hates the way Fox News is run.

Speaker 3 It might be the case, but I think one of them is going to turn on the entire family, turn on ATN, turn on everything. I think the

Speaker 3 Scandinavian dude that's supposed to be kind of like the Elon Musk of that world, he's going to get found out for being a huge fraud and he's going to fade away.

Speaker 3 He's looked weaker and weaker as the series has gone on.

Speaker 1 There also feels like there's got to be at least some conclusion to him sending quartz of blood to his ex-girlfriend, who's also his head of PR.

Speaker 3 Yeah,

Speaker 3 there's a very funny tweet from Owen Phillips, and it lists the 10 most common words that they say on succession, and they listed them all out.

Speaker 3 He said that it sounds like you're doing a Kindle Roy impression.

Speaker 1 Number one has to be fuck, right?

Speaker 3 No, that's number three. So if you read the most common 10 words, it's yeah, fuck.
No, just okay.

Speaker 1 Like, oh, well, right.

Speaker 3 That might as well be a script right out of Kindle Roy's mouth.

Speaker 7 Yes. Can we get a power ranking to your top five characters?

Speaker 1 Ooh,

Speaker 3 I like Roman. Roman's funny.
Now, he's a real piece of shit, and he's become more of a piece of shit, but he's still.

Speaker 1 Well, they're all pieces of shit.

Speaker 3 He's still, like, very funny.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Roman is very funny. Greg is obviously the comedic effect of the show.
That was great during Ewan's eulogy, who is Logan's brother.

Speaker 1 He went up and eulogized Logan, and Greg afterward was like, that was a hard take. Yeah, that was

Speaker 1 a hard take right there.

Speaker 3 Now, Ewan might actually, he might come out on top. He could.
Because if there's anybody that truly knows where the bodies are buried. Right.

Speaker 3 And really, the last big fuck off that Logan could leave in his wake would be by giving all the information about how bad the company is to a guy that already hates the company and has been trying to take him out for years and letting his own brother sink the ship on all of his fuck up sons and daughters.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 3 The more I think about it,

Speaker 3 that could happen. Like he comes in, just destroys the company and everything they've worked for.

Speaker 1 I just, the only reason I think, so, oh, top five characters, Greg, I love Tom. Tom is very funny.

Speaker 1 Roman, for sure. I'm trying to think who else would be in the top.
I mean, Logan was obviously the son that everyone orbited around.

Speaker 3 The Disgusting Brothers are so funny. The Disgusting Brothers.

Speaker 1 It also fucks me up whenever I'm watching a Shiv and Tom scene, which this season has been like that scene of them on the porch,

Speaker 1 whatever it was, episode seven, was just like incredible, incredible acting. But there was a part of me that was like, Tom's actually British and Shiv's Australian.

Speaker 3 Yeah, if you watch the post-show, when they interview him, it breaks your brain. It's like hearing Idris Alba speak for the first time.
You're like, wait, this guy's not from Baltimore?

Speaker 1 It tells you how great

Speaker 1 these actors are because I really do believe that Tom is from Minnesota. Yeah.
Like, so so

Speaker 1 the old, yeah, the only reason I keep going back to Kendall is this show is so brutal and it's so like,

Speaker 1 it's so clear what it's capitalism. It's transactional.
Everything is transactional.

Speaker 1 And it feels like as much as we want it to be some crazy ending where someone dies or Greg takes over, it's like just the idea that Kendall will be at the top, but he will have no one.

Speaker 1 He will have no family, nothing. No one will be like Kendall.
He will have given up his entire life life to get the one thing he's been after since episode one.

Speaker 1 Like 10 minutes into episode one, he was trying to do this. And it will be like, at what cost?

Speaker 1 This is how the world works. You got what you wanted, but you have nothing.
So the

Speaker 3 undercurrent, yeah. What did it cost? Everything.
The undercurrent in this entire show is that Logan has he's been a bad guy to his entire family.

Speaker 3 His family hates him, but they have no choice but to use him to advance their own careers. And

Speaker 3 any child that is closest to him at any given time is the one that's in power, only for Logan to just rip all that power away from them at the top of a hat.

Speaker 3 It's like when he did his, when he wrote his will and testament and then he crossed out/slash underlined Kindle's name on it, I think he did that shit on purpose just to fuck with Kindle so that Kindle would see it and not know, not ever know whether or not his dad wanted him to have the company or definitely did not want him to have the company.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 3 And the one way that he could absolutely take, like, fuck with his kids in the afterlife, because he hates his kids. He doesn't, he, I don't think he likes anybody.
He likes himself.

Speaker 3 The one way that he could fuck his kids over is by taking the, blowing up the company now that he's gone. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He does.
Yeah. He has.

Speaker 1 That's, that's where I go back to. Like, Logan had no friends.
Everyone feared him. Yeah.
No one loved him.

Speaker 1 And that's kind of where Kendall, like, you've seen it morph in this last season where he's become more and more brutal and more in that scene where he's just telling Roman after Roman just completely, like, broke down, like, you fucked it.

Speaker 1 You fucked it. That felt like a Logan thing to do, where it's like, you are a fuck-up.
You're not a serious person. I will have to save the day yet again.

Speaker 3 I would like to see Kendall perhaps go on another meth binge, too. That would be fun.
There's also, there's a looming specter of violence in the background, which is the protest that you see.

Speaker 3 Like, somebody could get killed in the last episode. One of the siblings could get caught up and found on the streets by one of the protesters and get their throat slit or whatever.

Speaker 3 That's definitely a possibility. There might be some violence that goes on.

Speaker 3 I also like the looming specter of the board that they always have in every episode where it's like, well, the board's going to go nuts, but I think I could push this through.

Speaker 3 The board, if you're a business person, you know that having a board is just such a great excuse to not do anything. Yeah, the board is not.

Speaker 3 Because you can say, like, listen, the board, I don't have the votes on the board to do this. I have to take this deal to the board.

Speaker 3 As long as you can say, like, oh, I've got, that's like basically saying I have a like a get out of jail free card.

Speaker 6 It's a great excuse.

Speaker 3 Actually, you know what? We should get a board on this show for doing stuff that we don't want to do. We'll be like, yeah, we want to do it.
We have to get approval from the board. From the board.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It should just be like Stella and memes.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 They have to talk about it.

Speaker 3 That's the board. They'll get back to you.

Speaker 3 The board might pull a power play here and then the board just gets control over it.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah.
It's, I'm very, very excited for this. It's, it's going going to be an awesome.

Speaker 1 I think they're going to do a great job of ending it because I also, like, in reading some of the interviews of Jesse Armstrong, who created the show, like, they could easily do another three seasons of this, but they're like, no, we're going to leave.

Speaker 1 We're going to leave everyone wanting more. Kind of like when Seinfeld was offered like $100 million to do a 10th season of Seinfeld.
He's like, no. I don't want to fade.
I want everyone to want more.

Speaker 1 And that's what I feel. I feel like we're going to want more at the end of this.
And

Speaker 1 it will be a great.

Speaker 1 Seinfeld then end well. Yeah, but it'll be a terrible, yeah, it's true.

Speaker 3 Okay, they all, so all the Roy siblings end up in jail together in a cell, sharing their deepest fears with each other.

Speaker 1 I also, it is funny, too, watching the show and the whole time being like, if I were in any of these kids' spot, I would just be like, yeah, let's fucking do this deal. I'll get $2 billion.

Speaker 1 I'll go buy a sports team. Yeah.
Like, I like, but that's the great part about this show is that they all are after something that I like it's unattainable. They want that power.

Speaker 1 They want that meaningfulness.

Speaker 3 They want approval from a guy who's already dead.

Speaker 1 Right. And

Speaker 1 they have more money than God, and it's not enough.

Speaker 1 Could you imagine being in a situation where like, if this deal happens, you get $2 billion and be like, no, we have to stop this deal just so I can keep power. Yeah.

Speaker 3 It's going to be awesome. I can't wait.

Speaker 3 It's been one of the greatest series in a long time on TV. The highest compliment I can pay to it is at the beginning, if you're watching it on demand and it says, Do you want to skip intro?

Speaker 3 You never hit skip intro because the theme song is such a fucking banger.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that guy, I met that guy. Yeah, I did too.

Speaker 3 I had dinner with him, and he's a cool guy.

Speaker 1 He doesn't watch sports at all. Yeah, I just basically spent the entire time sitting next to him, and I was just like, So, what do you do on Sundays?

Speaker 8 He's like, Well, I go to like Central Park, yeah, enjoy life, yeah, look at some music, look at nature.

Speaker 1 He's like, What?

Speaker 3 It's uh, it's such a banger of a theme song. There needs to be a rap song that uses that as a sample.

Speaker 1 There is. Is there? L to the OG?

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 3 Which song is it?

Speaker 1 There's a Push-a-T song. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 No, there should be another one.

Speaker 1 Remember Kendall's rap? I don't know what's going on right now. L to the OG.

Speaker 3 I'm very familiar with Push-A-T.

Speaker 9 Wait, do you actually not know that? Are you like, thank you?

Speaker 1 No, we know it. Of course not.
We were making sure you guys knew it.

Speaker 3 Duh. It was a test for Hank.

Speaker 1 Okay, so

Speaker 1 go download max.com. Sign up now at Max.com, the one to watch, and check out the series Finale of Succession.
We also will be doing some movie reviews coming up.

Speaker 1 We'll let everyone know what movies so that you have time to watch it. So next week, we're going to do a movie, right? So we got to pick a movie.

Speaker 7 Yeah. Should we pick from your movie?

Speaker 1 All right, so let's pick. So I sent a list to Hank.

Speaker 1 Let's pick off this right now so people can watch it. And you can watch it at max.com.
These are all movies on max.com. Tell me which one you want, PFT.
Here is, let me find my list.

Speaker 3 Where's my list, Hank?

Speaker 1 Okay, Blood Sport,

Speaker 1 Marked for Death, Cobra, Rambo, Man on Fire, or The Heat? The Heat with Melissa McCarthy? Blood Sport.

Speaker 3 Thanks, PFT.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Blood Sport. Okay.

Speaker 1 Blood Sports Brazil. So next week, we're going to review Blood Sports.
So if you want to watch it, it's Max.com. Go watch it.
We'll also do some newer movies coming up.

Speaker 1 But next week will be Blood Sport on Friday. So watch it.

Speaker 1 It's one of my favorite movies.

Speaker 1 Oh, Jean-Claude Van Damme. same oh it's great

Speaker 1 it's a great movie so blood sport next week get excited okay

Speaker 1 everyone who's back we'll put who who missed succession recap you can listen to that when you finally watch the whole show uh let's finish up with fire fest fire fest hank fire fest of the week

Speaker 7 i

Speaker 3 packed all my clothes and i've been wearing the same outfit for two days and nobody's noticed you didn't plan on leaving out out two outfits or three outfits?

Speaker 7 Did you hear at the beginning of it?

Speaker 1 But like before you packed the clothes. So wait, wait, wait, Hank, when are you unpacking your clothes? Friday.
Okay.

Speaker 8 Okay, so you've got another day.

Speaker 3 You're going to be wearing those for four days in a row?

Speaker 7 It will be

Speaker 7 Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday morning.

Speaker 1 Same underwear?

Speaker 7 No, I have underwear. I have all my underwear and all my socks.
That's the only thing in my suitcase.

Speaker 1 Okay. And then.

Speaker 1 That's valid. I love.

Speaker 7 I didn't even have have a sweater yesterday. I was like, I am so fucking stupid.
Thankfully, I had this in my car.

Speaker 1 But yeah.

Speaker 3 I love watching Hank grow up. It's one of my favorite things to do.

Speaker 1 He's going to be 30 soon. Yeah.
Wait, we got to have a bash.

Speaker 1 I'll be here. Yeah, we'll be doing something.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll be doing something.

Speaker 7 Throw a dinger.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 PFT, your fire fest?

Speaker 3 My fire fest of the week is I'm going AWOL from the Navy, despite never having joined the Navy.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 3 I was going to be going up in an F-18

Speaker 3 on Friday.

Speaker 3 And that's the day that I have to close on the house. And it turns out I have to be there in person.
And so I had to go AWOL from the Navy.

Speaker 3 I feel bad because I wanted to go up in this F-18. I really did.
I was so excited about it. It had been something I've been looking forward to for the last month, a real bucket list opportunity.

Speaker 3 I couldn't make it work. I tried everything that I could.
I can't make it work. It just happens to be on the same day that I'm making the biggest purchase probably ever that I'll ever make in my life.

Speaker 3 And I can't not be there for that.

Speaker 3 I do have, I'll just say I have bone spurs. I can't go up in the airplane.
Five feet. My doctor said I have bone spurs.
It would be unhealthy for me to go up in the F-18.

Speaker 3 Maybe I'll do it in a year if those get cured. But I do have a great deal.
If anybody is in Pennsylvania or the Poconos area, as Hank said, the Poconos are not in the Bahamas, Hank.

Speaker 3 He mistook Poconos with Kokomo.

Speaker 1 It happens.

Speaker 3 That was during Delirious, Hank. But if anybody is in Pennsylvania or I mean, the Poconos does not sound like Pennsylvania.
It's alliteration.

Speaker 3 It's not alliteration.

Speaker 1 It's syllables.

Speaker 8 It is syllables. It is syllables.

Speaker 1 Yes. And some consonants.
But

Speaker 3 I do have discounted tickets. And for somebody that, if you buy tickets using this link, send me the receipt, take a screenshot of it.

Speaker 3 I'm going to be giving away my Thrustmaster joystick that I've personally used to shoot down over 100 MiG-29s. Is that a bonker?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 3 My Thrustmaster? It's on you for thinking that.

Speaker 3 Hank,

Speaker 3 it's a piece of military.

Speaker 7 A Thrustmaster joystick? Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's on you. Yeah, I'm giving away

Speaker 3 my used Thrustmaster joystick. It's had my hand gripped around it for hours and hours and hours while looking at a computer screen.
Not sexual.

Speaker 3 But I am giving away my Thrustmaster to somebody who buys tickets. If you go to polkonoeraceway.com slash PFT.

Speaker 1 Are you a sex worker?

Speaker 3 Buy tickets to the air show.

Speaker 1 I'll throw, you know what? I'll throw in PFT's flashlight, too.

Speaker 3 I don't have a flashlight.

Speaker 3 I do not currently own a flashlight.

Speaker 1 I have the Thrust Master

Speaker 7 5,000.

Speaker 3 I've got the Thrustmaster. It's the throttle and the stick.

Speaker 3 But I will give one of those away if you go to Pocono Raceway.com slash PFT. The air show is going to kick ass.
So in the air show, they're going to have the Blue Angels demonstrating.

Speaker 3 This is Saturday and Sunday. They're also going to have an F22 demonstration, which is something I would give my left nut to go watch because F-22s are amazing.
They kick ass.

Speaker 3 So I would like to apologize formally to the United States Navy for backing out and going AWOL from you. Please don't court-martial me.
I hope that we can get it.

Speaker 7 I'll go sign here for your house if you want me to. I'll hold on to that for a little bit.

Speaker 3 That's forgery, Hank.

Speaker 7 I'll just take it.

Speaker 3 You're going to squat in my house. And then it becomes your house.
God, if I have Hank living in my house, the resale value just goes

Speaker 1 through the basement.

Speaker 3 But yeah, please go check it out if you're in the area. It's going to be a great time.
I would love to go there. Unfortunately, I can't.
Apologies to the AWLs that I said.

Speaker 3 I promised I told you I was going to be there. Apologies to the U.S.
Navy.

Speaker 3 During Fleet Week? Yeah, during Fleet Week, no less.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no less.

Speaker 3 But yeah, get that Thrustmaster joystick.

Speaker 3 It's got some of my DNA on it. Like it.

Speaker 1 Like it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, by the way, you guys should get ready.

Speaker 1 The air and water show that they do, I'm sure it's similar in the Poconos, but there's one in Chicago that usually is like August, and just get ready because there'll be like a Tuesday where they're practicing and you think that the whole city's under attack.

Speaker 7 Well, apparently there's fireworks like six nights a week in Chicago.

Speaker 1 Yeah, on Navy Pier. Yeah, but you will definitely be like, what the fuck was that? Because it'll just be buzzing.
Yeah.

Speaker 9 That was me yesterday. I thought like I saw jets overhead and I was like, what the fuck are we being attacked?

Speaker 3 No, Aaron Rodgers is just back.

Speaker 3 Billy told me yesterday that F-22s broke the sound barrier over his head when he was going running. I was like, Billy, you're full of shit.
Number one, there's no chance those are F-22s.

Speaker 3 Number two, they're not allowed to break the sound barrier when they're flying over residential areas, you fucking infant.

Speaker 1 Okay, my Fire Fest. It's kind of like a future Fire Fest.
So PFT and Hank are closing on their houses tomorrow, and they're moving.

Speaker 3 We're actually moving in together.

Speaker 1 Moving in together. I just have tremendous FOMO that you guys are moving, and I still have like a month and a half in Chicago or in New York, and we just went through our whole schedule.

Speaker 1 And June's going to suck. June's going to suck for us.
So AWLs, this is when you earn your takeies.

Speaker 1 We're going to have some, actually, our schedule, we're going to do, we're basically doing everything we can for our kids here, the AWLs.

Speaker 1 We're moving our schedules around to make sure that you have the best content.

Speaker 3 We'll still pick you up from soccer practice sport.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but the next month is going to suck because we're kind of traveling. We're all over the place.
We're taping stuff.

Speaker 1 We're going to make sure that for July 4th week, we have a baseball draft and Dungeon and Dragons, the takies. So we're still going to do everything.
We're going to have everything for you.

Speaker 1 We're not going to be missing any shows. It's just going to suck for a little bit.

Speaker 7 I'm moving to Chicago this weekend, and then I will not be back till July.

Speaker 1 That's PFT is the same way.

Speaker 3 Same way. I'm going to spend way more time outside of Chicago than inside of Chicago.
But I'm looking forward to a lot of it.

Speaker 3 I'm going to do all the things that Big Cat's not going to be able to do for another month. I'm going to go to Cubs games.
I'm going to go to donut shops.

Speaker 8 You can have my seats.

Speaker 3 I'm going to do everything. I'm actually, I'm looking forward to drinking as much Malort as possible.

Speaker 3 Love Malort. Jake,

Speaker 3 you're going to love malort, Jake.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, you're going to love malort.

Speaker 14 I think I had a shot of it for a draft show or something. I did one,

Speaker 14 I don't know, we cheers. I remember.
It was like the holidays. I'll have to find the video.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I've had it before.

Speaker 3 I'm going to do malort reviews. Every bar I go to that has malort.

Speaker 1 I like it. I like it.
Is that the same thing?

Speaker 3 No, it's different from bar to bar.

Speaker 3 I'm looking. You know what I love about Chicago and the brief time that I've spent there is how dark the dive bars are.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's great.

Speaker 3 They save a fuckload of money on that electricity.

Speaker 1 There's some great dive bars.

Speaker 3 Billy.

Speaker 9 So I got a truck and I try to get as much use out of it as I can, helping people move, moving furniture, doing all sorts I can.

Speaker 9 But one thing that like justifies in my head having a truck is moving my cousin's boat every year.

Speaker 10 This morning, I got

Speaker 9 rear-ended and my truck's fine. and fucked up the other guy's car way more, but it was his fault.
And I just like walked out and I just looked at my truck. I was like, okay, it's fine.

Speaker 9 Like, don't worry about it. My toe hitch got fucked the day before I'm supposed to move my cousin's boat.

Speaker 3 You can move. Can't you just put it in the water and move it that way?

Speaker 9 No, like put it in the water.

Speaker 1 Get it to the water. Get it to the water.

Speaker 8 Oh, get it to the water.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's dry docking.
So just like

Speaker 9 first time, it's like in their backyard. I'm supposed to move it.
Toe hitch got fucked up the day before.

Speaker 3 Just like, fuck.

Speaker 7 It is. You just didn't take the guy's information?

Speaker 9 Well, I was in a hurry, and I was just like, it's fine.

Speaker 7 But it's not fine.

Speaker 9 But the thing is,

Speaker 9 the body's fine. I just didn't check the specifics of the tow hitch and

Speaker 9 the thing that hooks up to it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So

Speaker 1 you beefed it up.

Speaker 12 Yeah, it's beefed up.

Speaker 1 It's bad. Now I have to.

Speaker 7 Are you going to try, though, and like make it work?

Speaker 9 I'm going to literally get a hammer out and try to hammer it back into place.

Speaker 3 Just make it fit. That's a common one season.

Speaker 1 You're truck on the side of the highway. But there's a will

Speaker 1 boat rolling down the highway.

Speaker 1 I'm going to to try to make it work.

Speaker 9 I'm going to fucking hammer that shit back into place, get a blowtorch out, try to make the metal more movable and malleable.

Speaker 3 There's one tool you should use for car repairs. It's definitely a hammer.

Speaker 1 I'm going to be hitting that shit like a blacksmith.

Speaker 3 If I go to a mechanic shop and I see a hammer on the wall, I'm leaving.

Speaker 3 That's the one thing that they'll never use.

Speaker 9 I think I can bend it back into place, but

Speaker 3 with your bare hands. It is an alpha move, though.
If you get into an accident and you step out of your car and your car is fine and the other guy's fucked up, you're like, nice car.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 You'll figure it out.

Speaker 8 I'm going to beat the shit out of that toe.

Speaker 7 Yeah, you're going to be able to.

Speaker 9 I'm going to be like, fucking.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Like, what?

Speaker 1 How are you going to be like?

Speaker 9 Fuck it. Hitting it like Tom.

Speaker 1 Billy just didn't hold me back with his fucking truck.

Speaker 3 Respectfully, I'd knock that out of the park. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You should see me with a hammer.

Speaker 1 Jake, finish this off.

Speaker 7 Also, firefights for you guys for not, I feel like I was justified you guys not knowing that original original Mark Jackson clip.

Speaker 3 A lot of people were mad that we showed the full context.

Speaker 3 I would like to just go with Hank's understanding of the situation that Mark Jackson wanted to

Speaker 3 lay that pipe up on Savannah.

Speaker 1 Also, I had the take I had about the Thursday night football game. Someone did point out to me that it means that

Speaker 1 you can't plan to go to an away Sunday game as well because you might get flexed a Thursday. Didn't think about that.

Speaker 8 Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 1 So that was a good point by them.

Speaker 3 Yeah. But I think we've reached the point where

Speaker 3 we primarily think of football as a TV sport. Right, exactly.
Not an in-person sport. We lose track of the fact that people...

Speaker 1 Well, in our defense, 99%

Speaker 1 of the audience is TV. Yep.
Probably higher. 99.9.

Speaker 1 Jake, finish this off.

Speaker 12 Yeah, this is a bittersweet firefest, but just being the last episode before Hank and PFT move, it's just, you should tune into PM TV on YouTube.

Speaker 14 We go down memory lane.

Speaker 12 Yeah. By the time you listen, it's just.

Speaker 1 But it's not really, because we're going to do like a ton of content in here.

Speaker 12 I know.

Speaker 14 It's just like the thought.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I don't like you trying to like jump ahead with the goodbyes.

Speaker 12 Well, we're doing PM TV. The plot.

Speaker 1 True, true, true.

Speaker 3 That cleaned up the pile yesterday. Yeah.
Yeah. That was a sad, sad moment.
I had a lot of old memories that I dug through. A lot of fullback jerseys that I just uncovered in the pile yesterday.

Speaker 1 It's more that we have so much shit we have to do in June that it's like not

Speaker 12 the unofficial closing.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right, numbers, real quick.
Finish this off. 18, 17.
I saw a guy on the street today. He said 55, so I'm gonna do that.
He's like, big cat, guess 55. I was like, done, dude.

Speaker 3 Has memes ever gotten this?

Speaker 1 No, he's not.

Speaker 3 I'm gonna do 99.

Speaker 1 Okay. 17, you said, Hank? Yep.
What was yours?

Speaker 1 Billy? 16.

Speaker 1 Or Jake, 18. Yeah.
Fuck, is it not on?

Speaker 3 Can you see it?

Speaker 1 It's on. It's on.

Speaker 1 There it is. Wasn't plugged in.

Speaker 8 Oh my god, JJ Watt, 99.

Speaker 1 99! Yes! Oh, you go! I didn't think that was 69. Yes, there you go!

Speaker 1 Yeah! Hell yes!

Speaker 3 All right, last show in the studio.

Speaker 1 There we go. Officially, the most wins.
Yeah, most wins. Wow.
Five. I'm the fucking king of this studio.
I thought it was 69. This is my fucking house.

Speaker 3 You and Brooks and Kepka. Five.
Yes. This is my house.

Speaker 1 Hell yes. Raise another banner.

Speaker 7 Five. Five.
That eliminates probably our bet.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh,

Speaker 1 congrats. Thanks.

Speaker 3 What a way to close it out.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Who went out with a home run in their last at-bat?

Speaker 1 Derek. Derek Jeter.

Speaker 14 Jeter did a walk-off single last home run.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Roberto Clemente got the 3,000 before.

Speaker 3 Good thing I'm not going up in a plane tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Congrats, PFT. Thank you.

Speaker 9 So the Russians have been training Beluga whales to be spies in NATO waters, and with all these recent orca attacks, are the Russians radicalizing orcas?

Speaker 17 Just putting it out.

Speaker 1 There's been no orc attacks.

Speaker 9 There has been. They've been attacking ships.

Speaker 1 Something to think about.

Speaker 3 They've recently been attacking boats.

Speaker 9 They've been attacking ships off of Spain.

Speaker 8 Any deaths? Read the news, Hank.

Speaker 3 Dude, I'm just saying.

Speaker 9 The orcas haven't been acting like that before.

Speaker 1 Just something to think about. Put it on your pilot.
Everyone's going to be a little bit more. They're trading Balikas.

Speaker 6 Tuesday. Tuesday.

Speaker 3 There should be a team named the Killer Whales or the Orcas. Sick uniforms.

Speaker 3 you see anyway.

Speaker 3 Today's another day to find you. Shiny.

Speaker 3 I'll be coming for your love of the way.

Speaker 3 I'll be coming for your love of the day.

Speaker 3 Make me up.

Speaker 3 I'll be

Speaker 3 one

Speaker 3 after

Speaker 3 I'm on turn.

Speaker 3 I feel you stay over.

Speaker 3 No, no, no, bro.

Speaker 3 It's the better to say you can sign up and say

Speaker 3 it's the better to say you can sign up and say

Speaker 3 take

Speaker 3 me off.

Speaker 3 I

Speaker 3 will

Speaker 3 young

Speaker 3 saving

Speaker 3 just that you might love me away

Speaker 3 You won't think I've stopped doing that You shine away

Speaker 3 I'll be coming for you anyway