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now in the street there is violence and then a lot of work to be done No place to hang out or wash in And then I can't blame all on the sun Oh no, we're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue And then we'll take it higher Oh, we're gonna rock down to it's part of my take presented by barstool sports welcome to part of my take today is friday may 26th and the boston celtics are back alive pft you are sitting next to hank right now the smile on his face uh well don't touch me hank just touched me yeah so pft we we will talk to hank because he now gets to golf in the month of june everything anytime you think hank is down he bounces back he wins he stays when he loses. Then he comes back and just fucking yells in our face when he wins.
PFT, let's start, though, you and I. Are you now very nervous because you have the bet for the Heat to win this series and you bet him up 3-0? Yeah.
Panic button. It was a plus expected value on the bet, by the way.

I had some smart guys sit down after the fact,

crunch the numbers for me.

I was getting 10% return on investment.

It should have been about 5% given the history of the NBA

and 3-0 leads.

So it was a sharp bet.

I don't regret anything.

I'm a process guy, not a results guy.

The process was right.

I make that bet 10 times out of 10 in the future. But now I've shifted my paradigm, big cat.
And you're a good friend. I'm a good friend.
My good friend, Hank, I would gladly pay $10,000 for Hank to be allowed to golf with me in the month of June. I want those friendship moments.
I want Hank to be happy. Hank and I are going to be stuck here in Chicago on our island for the next month, and we're going to be bonding.
And what better place for the fellas to bond than on a golf course? So if it's $10,000 cost to be friends with Hank for the month of June, well, then I guess he's a prostitute. He's a friend prostitute for me that I'm paying $10,000 to spend time with this month.
So I'm happy he's going to be able to do that. It is tough being in the same room as him, though, when he's experiencing satisfaction and enjoyment.
And I mean, credit to Hank because it's tough being a Boston sports fan. For about a week, it looked like his team might lose in the playoffs.
And that's hard. That's hard, man.
You've to battle through some shit hank so you know you've seen your adversity you might be coming out the other side i agree with jake that game six is game seven tonight was game it was game six even though it was game five tonight the celtics won their game six game five and now it's up to the heat to win their game seven game game six. And the Celtics killed them from the jump.
It was an electric crowd. They were hitting everything.
It felt like there was even a little bit of a moment where the Heat, like, oh, maybe they'll come back. No, not to be.
I don't think Jimmy Butler played in the fourth quarter. It felt like everything was going in for the Celtics.
It felt like they were at their level. I think there's a stat out there that when they hit over 40% from three, they're basically an unbeatable team.
They did that again tonight, and you had, like, everyone, like Marcus Smart had 23, Derek White had 24. Everyone was chipping in.
It wasn't just Jason Tatum had to take over the whole game. Four out of their five starters were in in uh 20 plus points I tweeted during the game that I was happy that Hank gets to golf and then as soon as we pulled up this Riverside to record and I saw his face smile um it broke me because the guy he just you know he skirts away from the losses and he gets to relish in the wins and and here we are and hank is all the way back and i do think i still think it's probably a coin flip but you can't deny the fact that the celtics it feels like momentum has shifted all the way back and now it's a two-game series and if the heat don't win in game six it is big big, big, big trouble.
Hank. Yeah, I mean, I'm happy.
I'm very happy for Hank, the person. I'm honestly sad, though, for the listeners of the show.
Yeah. Because while Hank's going to get to enjoy himself, it does mean that the recording quality is going to suffer, the audio quality might suffer.
Yes. Because Hank's going to be working maybe two or three days this entire month because he's gonna be on the course the whole time so just bear with us awls we love you and i hope that you can stand to listen to this podcast even though the quality is going to be absolute shit with hank just being not focused at all on his job verbal meme uh hank in his work work life balance and it's just the picture of like the the future that meme you know like what what the world would be like if Hank was work-work life balance, and it's just a picture of the future.
That meme, what the world would be like if Hank was work-work. It would just be a wonderful world where we'd probably have the greatest guests.
We'd probably get Kevin Durant on the show if Hank had to do work-work in June. I mean, between his busy golf schedule and also making the trip to Miami to get his suit out of the ceiling that he left down there, I don't think Hank's going to be in the office at all.
But seriously, though, Hank, congratulations. I'm very happy for you.
Piece of shit. So go ahead, Hank.
Go ahead. I appreciate the kind words.
I will say that it's really not about me. It's not about golf.
That's a side story. That's a side quest.
This is all about the team. This is about the Boston Celtics.
The job's not finished. If the Celtics lose this series, I'm not going to be happy on the golf course.
I'm going to be sad. We need to win this series.
You're going to be sad on the golf course. Yeah, I'm not.
I'm a team player. I've entirely been focused only on winning the series.
I honestly forgot the golf thing was even a factor, but I will say it was nice having perspective.

My golf game was kind of in a coma on life support for the last two weeks.

Well, you could have golfed the last two weeks.

No, I know, but it was like, am I ever going to see this person again?

He's on life support.

He's a vegetable.

He might not wake up.

Well, I did beat you.

Yeah, you're right.

And it's nice.

Don't spoil the video. Oh, okay.
beat hank uh he didn't but i did it'll come out uh it's nice it's just nice that you know all of a sudden whatever the little beeps start going you see some lines pop up and it's like oh my god he's alive and he's gonna be walking out of the hospital tomorrow this is great uh and yeah game six is Game 6 is Game 7. I do agree with Big Cat.
I think it's a coin flip. I think Jalen Brown, as much as everyone else played well, Jalen Brown still kind of played a little weird.
They still missed some free throws. They missed free throws all series.
That has been in my head the entire series where they just missed free throws. And that, when in a close game, that matters a lot more.
Turnovers, Game six is definitely a toss-up, but if you win game six, game seven at home is ours. There were a ton of turnovers tonight from the Heat.
I think they had like 16, 17, 18 turnovers, something like that. The second chance points were so lopsided tonight.
And credit to Al Horford, by the way. Al Horford, he didn't have a great offensive game.
He made a couple shots, but he's gone through these lapses where he forgets that the basket exists. He made a couple shots, but on the boards, he was sticking his big ass out there, getting tip outs, hustling.
He was a dog on the court tonight. So Big Al kind of owned the paint for a little bit.
His presence was felt and the Celtics got a shitload of secondhand second chances and capitalized on them.

So the Celtics, they were just, they, they played harder.

149 teams that have been up four or up three.

Oh, only 11 have even got into game six.

150, but yeah.

Sure.

Yeah. Because the Nuggets and Lakers did happen.

Right. Right.
That happened a couple days ago. Hank, what do you think about Joe Mazzula's pregame routine today? The report that he went to the hospital, he met with cancer patients, and the direct quote from him was – I mean, one of those probably saw my golf game in there.
Okay. He said, watching a girl dying and smiling and enjoying her life, that's what it's really all about.
So he gained some perspective. It's kind of some psycho shit, but I guess it's nice that he went to the hospital, tried to make people happy, cheer them up a little bit.
But it's Gary Vee adjacent is what he's doing. He's just reminding.
He's trying to force himself to work harder by looking at people who are dying and be like well i need to do it for them it's a cool move but it also feels like it might have been a move where if they had lost this game tonight he could get up and be like you know where i was earlier today i was at a hospital seeing cancer for patients this is just a game maybe a little old coach k move where it's like the game doesn't really matter it's life can i get a uh a celtics team chemistry update from you yeah they seem to be a little bit better i like listen you're gonna i i can't get i'm just curious no no i know i mean you you skirted the question basically every time i asked it so um it's funny that you bring it up when you're when you win a couple games that's false that's not false you like kevin o'connor sent that kind of a card to it i was like there's no way that is like that accurate that was my exact response you actually didn't respond to that when i sent it in in the text message can everyone back me up hank just didn't respond to the text message i mentally responded you didn't respond so i rest my case that you just didn't respond about it on stream there's a live stream i'll get the clip. I'll send it to you.
Okay, great. But the other times on the podcast, you didn't respond when I brought it up.
Because when you lose, you don't talk. Again, this is where it's like, if you're in Big Cass world and you're not doing, you can't lose, apparently, and you can't win.
No, no, you can. I don't really know.
When you lose, you can win. But you have to be able to contribute to the show.
I have talked every single loss. I lost.
And then I started talking in the game. You can't do that.
You can't do that. You can't do that.
Remember that? No, I don't. After the Sixers game.
Yeah, you were faking. You're like, again, that's just a lot.
It's like you can't. I can't exist.
No, when you lose, get mad. You just go silent.
I mean, listen, it's fine. You guys are bad subjective there's no like right or wrong it's a subjective art you know you feel what you feel and hank feelings are never wrong but when you feel bad you act like a shithead and when you feel good you act like a bigger shithead that's what we're saying mondays the start of monday show was painful trying to get something out of you i'm happy you're back i want you to i want to see you fight and you're fighting you know what i'm not gonna i'm not gonna take your guys's jealous no stop personally it's okay you know what you do hank this is what happens when when you lose we needle you and then you you won't respond to it so you force us to get progressively meaner and meaner and meaner to you yeah just to elicit a reaction and then you still don't react and And when you win you take all the mean stuff that we said out on us after a win but we only did that because you forced that's facts you're making us hit you right now that's facts i don't want to do this babe sum that up so perfectly all my feelings thank you pft max is clapping right now that was perfect all right right.
Also, Hank did an insult Photoshop of Max that he put out online where he just Photoshopped Max's face onto everything. No shot did he make that.
Zero percent chance he made that. I commissioned it.
I was standing behind Hank when he had Photoshopped. You commissioned the hit? I commissioned the arts.
Yeah. All right.
We should get Jake's get Jake's perspective. Cause now this guy's going to be positive after two losses, but I want to hear it.
And I, the thing is, I know Jake's happy for me, no matter what he says. I know he's secretly is like, I think I want the heat to win this series more than Jake wants the heat to win this.
We've got the peas already in the Stanley cup. All right.
So I can be both equally happy for Hank that he can still golf, but I'm also very upset that the Heat might blow this. You say equally? No.
I can be happy. Walk over you.
No. I'm not letting walk over me.
Yes, you are. You can't be happy for happy.
You're in a fight for your life, Jake. Here's the thing.
I love golf at the level that Hank does. So putting myself in his shoes, that's where it's coming from.
Like a big cat. Imagine if you're banned from betting on sports for a month.
I wouldn't make that bet. Exactly.
But imagine. Exactly.
I wouldn't make that. But it's your team.'s your like it doesn't matter like you i don't scream after every basket like i'm just calling it how it is i'm not gonna fake it for just because we're deep in the playoffs just to drum up a narrative like yes i want them to win well he's walking over you lose no yeah yeah jake just called you a simp No no he's no i'm saying hank's walking over jake now because jake is rooting for hank and hank is just sitting there collecting all the wins well hank is collecting the wins meanwhile but jake what jake just did to max is honestly very very mean even though he's trying to be polite he's like listen i don't i don't really care that much when my teams win or lose and you are a freak about your teams no he wasn't wrong that's fair that's it like am I ecstatic that the Panthers shout out the peas they're in the Stanley Cup final I'm really happy like that's awesome like I know a lot of diehards down there am I one of them no am I gonna act like I'm No.
So, like, why would I fake it? You know? This is the honest truth.

That's fair.

That's fair. I think it's fair, Jake, to say that with the Heat,

you should want the Heat to win way, way more than you want Hank to be able to play golf.

No, but there's one thing you're not thinking about, too.

Like, Jake Marsh, consummate professional, Big J.

If you're a Big J, you love a storyline.

150 series, 3-0, and to finally be able to win one like that's a great storyline i don't this is what he's doing to you jake you have to know what he's thinking he's just smiling year to year he's collecting all the wins he's got all the fucking pokemon no if the heat lose this series being on the side the bad side of history is embarrassing. Like this is the only outcome where I would legitimately have a pit in my stomach for a long time if they blew this.
Like if they lost – if it was 2-2 and they lost whatever, 3-3. But like this – you can't have history.
I mean being a Yankees fan, being a Yankees fan. I wasn't rooting for him for golf.

I was rooting for the Heat tonight, but I'm just looking at the positives.

Like, the Heat lost, but my friend gets to have what he wants.

And we can play together.

Yeah, we can go play together, Jake.

It's going to be great.

We're going to have a great June.

This is not what we do.

We root for each other to fail.

Is that not why I'm on the show in the first place? It's a different perspective. I'm not going to fake it.
I know you guys hate this. I know the AWLs are going to come after me and be like, you're such a loser, casual, fake fan.
Don't let us know, Jake. This is who I am.
Shut up, Hank. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. Jake, we're not mad at you.
No, I am. What we're really mad at is the fact that if we were in your position, we would want to kill Hank.
Yeah, I root for – that's male friendship, rooting for your friends to have their sports team fit. That really is the epitome.
If you can't win it, you don't want your friends to win it. That's bullshit.
Yes. And again, I'm not rooting for the Celtics to win this series by any means.
But since the Celtics won tonight, how do I spin zone that? All right, Hank doesn't have to give up golf. Sorry.
Jake, you know that for the remainder of our time on this fleeting earth, that Hank will always remind you that the Red Sox came back against your Yankees down three, nothing, and that his Celtics came back against your heat three, nothing. That will be something that Hank will have in his back pocket, which he will use in order to make your life worse.
You have to be proactively defensive about that because you don't want Hank to pull that out and stab you in the back when you least expect it, which he will just i i will say we're we're you know we're having fun we're having some laughs we're we're getting a little loosey-goosey but game six is 100 a toss-up game six is a 50 50 i could see it going either way i could see you know the celtics losing in horrific fashion or whatever so the series is far from over game six is a toss- really i i mean jimmy butler sitting for the fourth quarter that's felt like load management because they're just gonna try to unload the clip in game six but i do think that the celtics like maybe gave vincent was x factor is gabe vincent out jake or is he gonna be back i think he should be back for game six but this just came across the twitter timeline just reporting jimmy butler at the podium we can and we will win this series okay so i yeah that that to me is scared that i mean is the celtics are going to win this series the the my my first moment when i was talking the other night when i was like i had to get myself ramped up was when Jimmy Butler posted the pointing picture at Grant Williams it's like that's a that's something you post when the series is still going no he posts after every game but like you do the timeout like that's just his thing he posts after losses too but still I saw that was like this this is gonna come back Hank I I think the Celtics like i truly do i know people like well the heat only have to win one the cells have to win two it's 50 50 and it might even be leaning towards the celtics because they they played like that was the game that they were looking for for a while now where it's like yeah we just made this not even a doubt and it goes back to lap to game four second half where they have the same thing so it's pretty much six quarters now where

they've played lights out and it's i mean it's not like uh they're an underdog trying to come back

down 3-0 they were favored in this series they were favored they have home home court they were

favored like yeah hanks the guy fucking wins he's a winner it's getting me sick right now too

We were trying to do hedge math tonight while we were watching this game. Oh, no.
And you might as well have to be in goodwill hunting to be able to figure out hedge math because it's algebra. It's complicated.
I'm not very smart. I chose to be an English major in college because I didn't have to take more than one math class the entire time.
So we're trying to figure out hedge math. And for a while, I was like, why don't I just bet $10,000 on the Celtics? And then that way, you know, like they're probably going to be what, plus 150, plus 175 to win the series.
I was like, I guarantee myself winning at least $11,000. And I was like, wait, wait a second.
No, no. I guarantee myself losing $9,000 if that happens.
It's tough to figure that out. But for about two minutes, Hank and I both thought that we figured out a way to break the system.
No, I didn't know what it was, but PFT was like, it's a guaranteed winner. And I said, something doesn't add up there because whenever you say that, it's never true.
And then five minutes later, it's like, oh, no, that would be a potential $8 eight thousand loss and the celtics are definitely favored in the series now no heat minus 155 celtics plus 110 on the barstool sports okay so yeah you can't and celtics minus three game six on the road yeah um also fun fact we haven't brought this up yet this is blake griffin's first appearance in the conference finals throughout his entire career he's not going to lose his first good point finals That's a good point. Also, fun fact, we haven't brought this up yet.
This is Blake Griffin's first appearance in the conference finals throughout his entire career.

He's not going to lose his first conference finals.

That's a good point.

Also, Blake Griffin and Kevin Love,

the last two players to be featured on the NCAA basketball game.

How about that?

They're playing against each other.

How wild is that, Jake?

I think I have that game.

Oh, I love that.

How about this?

How wild is that?

Whoa. You have it on you.
Oh, I love that. How about this? How wild is that? Whoa.

Here we go.

You have it on you.

Yeah.

That's sick.

I used to play turn, like simulate March Madness turn rates all the time.

Jake, I'm disgusted with you.

I know.

I don't want to hear you talk.

All right.

Well, congrats, Hank.

At least it's here.

I'll say here's a spin zone.

I did want to have something to watch on Saturday night.

Thank you. All right.
Well, congrats, Hank. At least it's here.
I'll say here's a spin zone. I did want to have something to watch on Saturday night.
So we have a game Saturday night succession finale Sunday night, and then potentially Monday night at game seven. So like as a sports fan, I'm happy that I get to watch more basketball because it would have been a bummer to have that type of break.
And as a family man cat you can you can take some solace in this i don't like where this next next week i i had planned to be playing golf with my grandfather and then this week my grandparents are dead he was like hey what is this what is this i'm hearing that you're not gonna be able to play golf with me next week and i was like i didn't even have the heart to tell him what was going on i just i just waited until tonight so that's sick fucks i have grandparents alive yeah really some of us don't have any and haven't had any for a long time well that's cool but i bet he did you'd want to play golf with them no if i had if my grandfather was alive and he said hey pft do you want to go play golf there's no elevators at this course i would say you know what yeah i would love to i in fact i want to so very deeply that i'm willing to shave my facial hair into a soul patch in order to play golf with you grandfather wow but hank in his mind wouldn't even shave his facial hair into a soul patch to play golf with his grandfather who's still alive and then go to a family wedding right after which would have been embarrassing jake i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry for my unique take don't apologize no i'm sorry i got mad at you i'm sorry i got mad at you i shouldn't get mad at you it's okay i forgive you yeah it's everything i don't care no it's everything pft summed up perfectly about the he makes us do that too yeah right he does and then he gets mad at us the way he acts makes it yeah the smile right now is exactly yeah if you're watching on the youtube you know it is his fault um all right we got a couple a couple more things we're time to do an ad real quick and we've got a couple more things we want to talk about uh him and hers spring is here and with that warm weather it's time you deserve to look and feel your best all the time. Thanks to our friends at HIMSS.
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Okay. What were you going to say, PFT? Sorry.
Before that ad, did you have something else? I was just going to say, there was some big news that came up today in the NBA. It didn't have anything to do with this game, but it just came out today.
Shams announced LeBron James was actually injured in the playoffs. Oh, no way.
He had a pretty much destroyed foot. He was playing on an injury that would have killed even the mightiest Spartan Warriors.
He had a tendon injury in his foot, which, I mean, i can't believe that he was able to walk on that thing much less play in the western conference finals which is incredible i don't think anybody out there saw this news breaking today we definitely didn't say on the last show that news like this was about to come out about lebron james but i just want to say salute to a warrior that's hockey tough i'd like to see an nhl player do what lebron james did in his playoffs. So credit to LeBron for.
But I just want to say salute to a warrior. That's hockey tough.
I'd like to see an NHL player do what LeBron James did in this playoffs.

So credit to LeBron for doing it and not saying a word about it.

In fact, he's probably embarrassed that the news came out. This is the same injury that he told the media a few months ago

that he's probably going to need surgery in the offseason,

but he's not going to tell anyone when he gets surgery,

even though he definitely will tell everyone when he gets surgery. But yeah thoughts and prayers to lebron hope he's okay um god damn it hank you just win all the time uh okay other stories the panthers are in the stanley cup final the stars are still alive the stars just won overtime against the Knights.
Rob Brendamore, the coach of the Carolina Hurricanes, took a page out of our good friend Max, his playbook with probably the biggest loser talk I've ever heard. So if you missed it, the Hurricanes got swept and Rob Brendamore afterwards said, that's the unfortunate part of this is we're going to look back and everyone's going to say you got swept, and that's not what happened.
I watched the game. I'm there.
We're in the game. We didn't lose four games.
We got beat, but we were right there. This could have went the other way.
It could have been four games the other way. Tonight, the way it ended is tough getting a penalty like that.
That's tough, especially with what was with what was let go that's gonna sting not to take anything away from the other team because they played hard so um they did lose with five seconds left uh which was a it was a thrilling game but to come out afterwards and say the history books will show we got swept but that's not what happened uh that's quite a quote yeah they didn't lose every game they just didn't win and that's what their problem was they were close they got they didn't get no wins they got zero wins in this series it is it what they should do is just be like hey the panthers the panthers have beaten some really good teams this year in the playoffs they're just you gotta if you're the hurricanes you're rooting for the panthers to win

in the sailing cup finals right that way you can even feel better about the zero wins that you got in the eastern conference finals because you're like well they're just the best team in hockey any other team in the league we would have beaten yeah they need to hang a banner that just says uh eastern conference finals definitely didn't get swept even though it says we got swept almost tied game four in a 4-0 series sweep.

Yeah. Put the banner up.
Played a lot of overtimes. Series was close.
The history books will show it as a sweep, but we all know they didn't actually get swept. Yeah, they lost 4-0, but it wasn't a sweep because they didn't lose those four games they could have won them yeah they just didn't win them yeah look maybe we need to be more like rob brendamore going forward the bears didn't lose the super bowl they just didn't win it they were close yeah jake is like rob brendamore though like that's that's such a healthy mentality to have yeah if you're talking perspective but nobody with any sort of healthy perspective should have a place in professional sports yeah this is a domain of psychopaths no that's one of you you you got what you got like their numbers never lie like they lost 4-0 that's a sweep max that's a no-hitter like but it wasn't because they didn't lose all four games they just were very very close.
It's one of those moments that when they do the press conference right after, it's emotional. You say things you probably regret.
I guarantee you, Rob Brendamore woke up the next day and was like, fuck, did I really just say that we didn't lose 4-0 and that we were close in all those games? Because it is on the surface just – I mean, they were close. But on on the surface that's the definition of loser talk it's also he's brendamore that's gotta be he's gotta be a french guy that's very french line of thinking like that's like france wearing t-shirts that say back-to-back world war champions yeah technically i guess you could make that case but in reality you know that's not what really happened yeah tough tough uh they yeah the hurricanes were close they did i think their goal differential was only uh or no wait every goal was a one goal game every game was a one goal game so they were four four four goal differential uh but yeah to say we didn't lose we didn't get swept that's not what happened we didn't lose four games didn't get swept.
That's not what happened. We didn't lose four games.
That actually is, in fact, what happened. It's exactly what happened.
They lost 4-0, and the Panthers are now in the Stanley Cup final. Brooks Koepka, our guy, I don't know if he's going to be able to keep the schedule up.
I don't know if you guys saw, but for the live event, he wasn't there today because of flight issues, which is hilarious because we all watched him the last three days, just have the greatest three days, like in the history of greatest four days in the history of sports. I don't think you can live better than what Brooks did this week, where he just went and he told us to schedule on Sunday night.
He's like, yeah, I got the peas and I got the heat. Then I got the peas again he got to see his team that he has season tickets for go to the Stanley Cup three days after he won the PGA championship yeah no but I mean it was he had plane trouble today that's why he was late getting to the live event he did show up after the press conference which is awesome that he just he decided that he just wasn't going to talk to the media because who knows what was going through his brain at that point probably not in the best mental mindset but uh no it was plain issue you've seen all the delays that have been happening across america last year mayor pete has grounded flights like 75 of all the weekends he's probably flying southwest trying to save a little bit of money because you don't you don't get rich by spending money on Big Cat.
So he was probably flying on a discount carrier, which was grounded. And then he was late getting to the event.
But when he got there, there was a nice reception that I had. Hank, will you please stop coughing? Hank's going to get me sick.
Well, he didn't sleep for fucking the entire week. He pulled a Brooks Koepka.
I mean, you've been coughing the entire show. I'm trying not to.
Like, shut the fuck up. I'm literally sitting here trying not to cough.
Can you not cough? As I'm literally eating coughs. I'm going to get sick.
PFT, this is the problem. When Hank loses and he doesn't speak, then we get to this point where he coughs in our face and then we're like, shut up with the coughs.
Now you're getting on my wavelength. Wait, wait till you agree with everything i said all right so other thing we other thing we should talk about um michael block we gotta have a discussion about this story so feel good story fun story he has then got an exemption in a bunch of events he's playing right now in the Charles Schwab.
He also had a clip where he said if he had Rory McIlroy's distance, so off the tee box, he would be one of the best players in the world because he's a world-class pitch wedge, everything around the greens. He then came out and he is 120th out of 120 participants and i think the charles schwab um i i want i i know that it was a nice story but he has done everything and i know it's partially the media's fault for like building up ourselves included but yeah that that clip where he was like yeah if i had rory's length it would be it'd be insane how good I am.
Like, what are we talking about here? And then goes and shoots a plus 10, 120 out of 120. Yeah, it's also, it is a little bit relatable because I always say like if I had Billy's size, I would be in the NFL right now.
And that's one of the things that you can say if you're, for whatever reason, you don't make it in professional sports, just take somebody that's bigger than you'd be like, man, if I, listen, if I was Joel Embiid's height, I would, I would win the NBA championship every single year. Cause I got that dog in me.
You can pretend you can cosplay as being a great athlete. He's, he's just doing exactly what I think a lot of people do in other sports.
But the difference is he's supposed to be better than that.

He's supposed to be better than us because he is a PGA club pro and he has competed against these guys.

And yeah, it probably wouldn't hurt if he was driving the ball 325 yards, 330 yards.

He'd probably be better than he is right now.

But you have to understand the situation that you found yourself in where there's nothing that the media loves more is tearing a guy down, especially one that they've built up themselves. So you just got to be boring and you get – just stick to crying.
If he had just cried – Oh, he cried today. Non-stop for five days.
Yeah, I know. He's addicted to crying.
If he had just done nothing but cry during the interview, then we would have been like, oh my god, I love this guy. I love how humble he is.
You can say whatever you want as long as you're crying while you say it and the media will eat it up but yeah he put his foot in his mouth a little bit on that one and i think now the golf purists he's he's lost the golf purists and when you lose them then who else really is there that pays attention to the events that aren't any of the majors and it is again i take i take blame in this anyone who's in the media should take blame blame in this because the way we talked about the story and how much everyone was hounding to the story and he did a bunch of interviews, which if I were in his shoes, I'd do all those interviews too. I think he signed with a talent agency.
All moves that anyone in his shoes would do, but then you know what the reaction is going to be when you come out and are dead last and also say, if you had Rory's distance, you would be a world-class player. That one, I bet you he wishes he had back.
I think he might have even taken it back because it's like, yeah, Rory McIlroy. You know why Rory McIlroy has that? It's because he's a freak athlete and he's worked insanely hard at his craft.
It didn't just happen overnight. Yeah.
The live come calling for for block take it if if they do then he should absolutely 100% take that money I think that's where the disconnect is too like if he had just been like after the PGA being like dude this rules and I'm gonna milk this as hard as I possibly can and try to make as much money for my family as I can I think then everyone would have been like cool yeah that's that's what you should do but it's the combo of like straddling the fence of being like an aw shucks guy while also milking it for everything because I don't I don't blame him for doing any of the interviews any of like the the promo any any advertising that he's done like I don't blame him for it if you if you have a chance to make the money go make the money that's that's a no-brainer yeah see so the difference is if any of us say like if we have rory mcelroy's distance we would be one of the best golf players in the world that's to be expected from people like us when he says it he should know better because he's actually good enough to know that he's not that good at golf right right and what it takes yeah to get there um okay anything else we have so the schedule next week Tuesday show Friday show uh Tuesday we have Michael Malone from the Nuggets so get excited for that awesome interview we already did it he's the absolute man um anything else though before we kick it to Mark Titus and we also have a succession preview of the series finale coming up as well if you have not watched or if you're behind we will tell we tell you exactly where in the show the spoilers start so we're not trying to do a sopranos thing we're very clear about it put in the time stamps um anything else though before we kick it to a long weekend and back to ourselves

in studio with titus everybody be safe out there memorial day weekend yes yeah i think i think the name matt kachok deserves to be said on this show i know we talked panthers but that trade was insane and that game winner he's literally putting the team on his back stud i can't believe you're You rooted for Hank to golf.

I did not root for him to golf.

You were happy.

Yes. I appreciate it.
I really do. I really do, Jake.
I was like, I couldn't get mad at you because I knew that you were rooting for me to win as much as I was rooting for me to win. Jake, because you were rooting for me to win.
You had swept Hank. The reaction that he would have would be 100% different from what he's doing right now.
You're smart enough to understand that, right? I know that. Yes.
But you guys are just twisting it. I'm not rooting for the Celtics to win.
He's like, yes, I want Hank to go off. Afterwards, I spun it.
Hank's taking advantage of you right now. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
I said that. said that i said that i said that um okay let's kick it to ourselves in studio with mark titus succession and fire fest coming and everyone have a good long weekend before we get to mark titus he's brought to you by our great friends over at chevy you know we're truck guys through and through up and down we love trucks chevy silver has been a partner With Unstoppable Grit And Determination It's been our most valuable truck Our MVT Shout out to Chevy Sponsoring this podcast For it feels like What? Two years? Now three years? Yeah They're our guys Sponsored the Low Man Trophy They are the official truck Of Pardon My Take The official truck of Fullbacks The official truck of Gr.
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Okay, we now welcome on the show one of our favorite recurring guests. We actually had the conversation maybe it was yesterday.
Days blend together. Who has been on the show the most? You might be up there, Mark Titus.
Yeah, I feel like I got to be in the top 10 at least. You're definitely top 10.
Top 10 at least. Who'd you settle on as number one? I said it was Ryan Whitney.
I think it is Ryan Whitney. It could be Whitney.
It could be Rosillo's been on a bunch. Rosillo's been on a bunch.
I love Ryan's on the show. But Whitney's been on consistently like two to three to four times a year for like six years.
Florio's been on a lot too. Yeah, but you're up there, so it's great that you're here.
You're going to start getting some of the guys you call, like the Blakes. Do they count? Yeah, Bortles.
Like when we called Lenny Dykstra for an entire year? Yeah, that counts. Bortles is definitely, I'd say he's still top 10.
But he was top five. But he's been, since retiring from football, he's semi-retired.
We need one of those animated infographics where it will show, like, college basketball team wins. And then it will start with, like, Princeton had the most wins in, like, 1902.
And then you see, like, the emergence of Duke. And you see the emergence of Duke.
Yeah you see the emergency yeah those are cool yeah like oh here comes whitney yeah yeah i don't want to be number one though that's that's way too much pressure i would i just literally anything in life i don't want to be number one so that's smart i i like that whitney's number one he's better suited for it so we're taping this on wednesday afternoon we are running this on Friday there is a game five in Boston on Thursday uh let's start here because you have started a rivalry with Celtics fans it feels like out of out of the blue it kind of came out of nowhere because uh watching game five against the Sixers and seeing the Boston fans booing their team, it broke me. I'm like everyone else.
As I watch the NBA, I cheer against the Lakers and Celtics, and that's kind of a typical way for an average fan. So I guess I have an anti-Boston thing in that regard, but I've never really cared that much to go on a rant until I watched them boo it when it wasn't even ending their season.
And we all knew that this – like we knew that the Sixers – I guess we didn't know the Sixers were definitely going to lose, but like it was within the realm of positive – I was not shocked that the Celtics went to Philly, won game six, and then came back home. So the fact that they were booing their team when the season wasn't even over, it just seemed crazy.
The entitlement just was insane to me that you were booing a successful team. This has been a great Celtics run that they've been on.
They have not won a championship, but what Celtics teams do win championships is my point. Yeah.
I don't get what the standard is in Boston right now. We talk about different cities and how their different sports teams have different fans like big cat always brings up how cleveland like calves fans are not the same as browns fans yeah you like browns fans root for browns fans yeah same same people but it's it's not the same it's not the same it's different with boston sports fans you're just a fucking boston sports fan yeah and i guess that's what's very bizarre to me yeah like tom brady played quarterback for your football team that has nothing to do with your basketball team but like what the expectation should be for your hockey team or but like they're the one city that seems to operate that way and i don't it makes zero sense well i think it's because they've won so much like the i know the patriots have won so much the red sox have won the this is the point like the celtics haven't won shit right right so i never understood why like if you're a boston celtics fan why you're like you're going in year after year and you have a team that has been to what is this five out of seven eastern conference finals like that yeah which i'm not saying hang a banner for that but it's like this is very obviously a great stretch of basketball this is a great era of boston celtics basketball you gotta hang a banner and if they don't hang a bit but like i don't understand why that is the standard for the celdics when that is insane this they've won one championship since 1986 like why is that the but i think it's all of them combined like i i know that browns fans are lebron fans i just separate them because it's like one team is losing historically and the other team is winning so there's a difference where i understand how their teams are in the mix i understand how it happens i'm just i just want to call it out as being insane you know i get how you arrived at that point it just makes zero sense so we don't know what's going to happen game five but on let's just say let's say it doesn't really matter do you think jalen brown and jason tatum are like put your future both those guys? Because they are kind of stuck in a weird spot where there's no, the alternative doesn't make as much, much sense.
Like even if you don't like them together, which I think most people like them ish, if you don't love them together, what's the alternative? This is if so, yeah, like what, what is, I guess you have to start with what is the the expectation and if you're trying to win the title and again we're i gotta be careful how we're talking about this because everyone seems to think the celtics are going to come back and they're not dead yet and you know we're talking about them like they're they're done and maybe they go on to win the title this year but from what we've seen so far it feels like tatum and brown cannot get over the hump they're not going to get over the hump uh so if if you're saying if and i've been led to believe by the boston fans that this is the expectation year after year as we are trying to win nba championships anything less than that is a failure of a season then yeah i do feel like something has to be done but i think there is there's value in realizing we we have a very very we have one of the best teams year after year with these guys keep taking shots keep taking shots keep stepping up to the plate keep so i don't if i was running the team of course i wouldn't blow it up but i i feel like celtics fans have gotten to the point where like we're never going to get over the hump but i i maybe i say this as a guy who grew up watching indiana pacers basketball and like this was what the pacers were it was like the best case scenario for the pacers was make the eastern finals they made the finals one time in 2000 and the lakers handled them and you know like but smiths but i think pacers fans were like that was a sick era man that was so sick maybe maybe the most dunkable guy in the nba shack against rick's yeah so not was not fair yeah but you're right like if because if you blow it up what does the alternative look like do you go back to i'm also like rebuilding does it right yeah i'm also a big believer in like championships are very hard to win just having a consistently good team that gets to the playoffs and deep runs in playoffs like you just keep rolling the dice it's actually theo epstein that's kind of his whole strategy is like the playoffs is the goal that? There's a lot of, like, bounces and weird shit that happen. Just get to the playoffs every year, and one year it will happen.
It's definitely that way in college basketball, too, where if you look at coaches that have won national championships, a lot of them aren't even with their best teams that they ever had. Right.
And even Bill Self winning the 2020 title was funny to me

because all that season I didn't think that that Kansas team

was a special Kansas team as compared to other teams that he's had.

But to that point, you keep knocking on the door.

Eventually you're going to break through.

But I don't know what they're – yeah, it's so unique

because I do think the Lakers and Celtics do view their two franchises as if we don't win a title as a failure of a season. So I don't know what's going to happen with that.
Yeah, I mean, we're going to know a lot more by the time this comes out. I'm hoping the Celtics are eliminated because I think Hank, unfortunately, is right that if they win two, they're winning four.
I've resigned myself. He's done that math.
He's done that math. He that he did that math and also Jake pointed out this was an all-time Jake moment because I don't think he even realized that he was falling into the trap of being us being real dumb asses talking about sports and he was saying game six is game seven and then yeah and then by that extension game five we're about to watch game six right So we just got done with game five last night.
I am so confident. I understand I'm jinxing this, and this will be thrown back in my face, but I am so confident that the Celtics will not beat the Heat in this series.
Thank you. I just need to hear somebody say it.
That it is actually kind of freaking me out how confident I am, I guess. It is so bizarre to me how this team is lifeless this team hates each other this team like on and on and on and they win one game and now we have a series I yeah all the pressures on the I think the pressures on the team that now has to win three straight games from here to keep their season alive versus the team that has to win one yeah I would agree with that I would I think the pressure is still on the cell well Hank paused when we asked him if Game 5 was a must-win.
He was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think the pressure might be on the team with a coach who everyone wants fired and the team that every day they're putting out stories about how much they hate each other.
I don't know. I don't understand why everyone's acting like the pressure's on the Heat.
It's funny because if the Celtics, if they somehow end up winning the series and luck their way into an NBA championship, I could still see a sizable amount of Celtics fan base being like, you've got to fire Joe Missoula. Yeah.
This offseason, like regardless of what happens. So, okay, what is the funniest? If the Boston haters out there need help trying to process what's going on here, what is the funniest outcome from here? Because I think Yacht Sweep's obviously off the board.
Game five will have already happened by the time everyone's listening to this. But if they lose...
Maybe game seven blowout. Game seven blowout in Boston.
Winning, coming back winning this series, but then getting swept by the Nuggets in the finals. Yeah, we should talk about the Nuggets.
We don't talk enough about the Nuggets. Before we get to the Nuggets, we don't.
That's how everyone does it. We should talk about the Nuggets.
Yeah, LeBron might retire. I want to talk about the Celtics again real quick.
Historically great franchise. When you think of the NBA, you think Boston Celtics, right? Boston Celtics.
You would think that they'd be able to have any pick of any coach that they wanted.

This offseason, they fire Missoula. Let's just say

hypothetically they fire him. Probably going to happen.

Who should the Celtics

be looking at? Brad Stevens?

Guy in the room. Would Brad Stevens

hire himself to coach?

I think he would. I think Brad's done coaching

unfortunately. It's got to be

such a better life.

Such a better life to be able to just sit up in the in the suites and just not have to stress every moment you know what's great about his position is he has virtually no accountability so his job if somebody if the guy that he hires ends up sucking he can just be like that guy let me down that guy stinks i'm gonna get a new guy and nobody's gonna be like brad stevens you're bad at this. It would be very weird if they – I know that people want to fire Joe Mazzulla, but now you're four coaches in four years.
And that's a very weird feeling to be like, when is it the players? I know the Emei Odoka thing, like he wouldn't have been fired because that's different, but still, it is four coaches in four years is weird. That's a weird – yeah, I agree.
That's what I think makes Boston so fascinating right now. And I do think that as much as it was crazy to me to see Celtics fans booing their team when the season wasn't even over, I understand that there's more of a – this season feels for Boston like a crisis point, like something is going to change one way or another.
Either they're going get over the hump make history and go on to the finals coming down uh oh three or like something's gonna have something's gonna have to change it's just like no one can really figure out what should happen and how it should happen whether it's coaches and play it like how do you blow it up well they're right at that crossroads where they are about to pay two guys the most like ever. Yeah.
And they both probably deserve it. And they're both young.
So it's yeah, it's fascinating to see like what the future holds. I think the funniest outcome, if you won't, if you're cheering for the demise of Boston is a game set.
Joe Mazzula does just enough to keep his job. They don't like the Celtics are just successful enough that they run it back next year with the exact same team, the exact same coach and everything.
But they don't actually win anything. Right.
If we could find that middle ground, that would be the funniest. So, speaking of the Nuggets, they just beat the Lakers.
I don't know if you saw this. Kyrie Irving was courtside at that Lakers game.
What do you think about Kyrie teaming up with LeBron, running that back? Maybe he's the missing piece next year. Is LeBron going to be? He's coming back.
Is he coming back? You know, you're probably good friends with him. No, that doesn't.
I don't think. But he said he might retire.
So I think he might actually. Yeah, he's going to retire.
He's not going to retire. I'll bet $10,000 to pay off $1,000 that LeBron James does not retire.
I have to get a cat if he retires. He's not retiring.
He's not retiring. Ever.
Ever. Zero.
Ever. LeBron retiring, that would be the moment that truly would make me confront my own mortality as a human being.
If LeBron, all right, let's entertain it, though. It's good Nuggets talk.
I like that. It would be funny, though.
It would also be funny if LeBron never retires, but he keeps decreasing the percentage where, like, when he's 55, he's like, I'm still better than, like, 10% of the league. Like, it just keeps going down and down.
Would you respect him more? Would you feel like you would have to look in the mirror a little bit with the way we viewed LeBron as a human being and his ego and all that sort of thing if in fact well he's not but I'm just doing a thought exercise if in fact he's done and he kind of does a Jay Wright move where it's like whoa that kind of came out of nowhere and and this is it and we never see LeBron play in the NBA again and he just goes off into the sunset after being swept would would you look in the mirror and be like maybe I had this guy wrong well yeah I mean I'd respect Ted Kaczynski more as a writer if he didn't attach a bunch of C4 to his packages, but that's not going to happen with LeBron. Hypothetically, Mark, yes, I would respect that.
No, I would. If LeBron just said, you know what, I'm done.
I don't need the fanfare. I'm walking away.
I'm focused on being a dad or whatever. If LeBron James did something he's never done before and changed everything about his character.
No, I would. I would.
I mean, he's going to do the retirement tour. It's going to be two years long, three years long, and people are going to get fatigued with it.
If he just walked off and was like, no, no, you guys didn't believe me. I actually am done.
I would respect the hell out of that. I would say that'd be it's not going to happen.
No, no. It would be Kyrie with the Lakers Let's talk some Nuggets here.
So if Kyrie had played on the Lakers this year, if he had been traded to the Lakers instead of to Dallas, do you think that the Lakers would have beaten the Nuggets? No. No.
No. The answer's no.
Yeah, no, no. That's correct.
So I did get a little sad watching. This was the first time watching LeBron where my own mortality factored into watching LeBron.
This is the first time. Because he ran out of gas.
He ran out of gas. You saw it in the first half.
Over and over and over again. I was like, damn.
Yeah. It was like the first half was like he is emptying the tank.
Yeah. And to empty the tank, it was basically like a fighter throwing a bunch of punches and none of them having any impact.
Like, lands a perfect punch, and the guy's just standing there like, that's the best you got? And he kept pushing the button, and it wasn't working, and he just kind of like, yeah, it was very – and honestly, it speaks to how good the Nuggets were too. I mean, I think LeBron thought he could just – I mean, I don't know what he...
I honestly... I respect the hell out of Game 4 because he very easily could have packed it in and he was going balls to the wall, but the Nuggets were just way better.
Well, I mean, Jokic... So speaking of the Nuggets, Jokic has been phenomenal in the playoffs.
Does it make you... Like, if you had an MVP vote, would you take it away from Embiid? Because Embiid's a loser, like talking about Embiid.
I would take the MVP away from Embiid. I would too.
What would you do about the Sixers? You blow the Sixers up? Yeah. Speaking of Jokic, Max is mad now.
Embiid, tell me this. Tell me this.
Hot take. You played basketball.
You've been around a lot of good basketball players. You know a lot of the guys.
Is there such a thing as just not having that dog in them and being kind of a loser? Like, Embiid's a phenomenal basketball player. Kind of a loser.
I do think – okay. That's a great question.
Yeah. To answer your question, yes.
There's definitively guys who do have the dog and don't and um i i it has become a meme at this point but it's there's there's very much something to that i what i struggle with trying to figure out is is it is it something you're born with or is it something you can learn along the way can you get can you grow it yeah can you learn how to be a dog can you learn how to be a dog Can you be around? If you get the right teammate that gets brought into the mix and teaches you the ways, can you? I think you can get domesticated from a wolf to a dog. If you're a real wild kid and you're coming out and you play on that edge, then you can get brought back.
I feel like Jimmy Butler was a wolf, and now he's got that dog in him. He's half wolf, half dog.
So you're saying he was too crazy, and they brought it down to a manageable level. But he's still got that instinct in him.
Can it work the other way, though, where you're a little too passive, a little too soft? Right. I don't think you can turn a cat into a dog.
Yeah. You know what? I think it was John Thompson at Georgetown who said, you need two dogs on each team.
Two dogs can get you a championship. Five dogs will get you fired.
So you have to be able to, like, on average on your team, you need two of those guys that have that. But I don't think – Yeah, it's like making the whole plane out of Ron Artest.
Wouldn't work. That would not work.
Can't work. Would not work.
But I think it's a lot tougher to get a guy that's soft and then turn him hard. I don't know if you can gain the dog.
I don't know if you can. Who, Billy? Go ahead, Billy.
Billy's freaking. You can gain the dog.
So give us an example. Intense trauma.
Girlfriend breaks up with you. All right.
So back to what we're saying. No, no.
Billy, just unpack that for a second. What type of intense trauma? Girlfriend breaks up with you.
You all got a buddy, funny, good-lucking, then he gets a mean streak and he just comes back mean and you're like, oh, shit, whatever. By the way, I just want to just pause.
I want to pause for a second and just say that, Billy, you've had a pretty nice life when you're like, intense trauma. Girlfriend breaks up.
Girlfriend breaks up. Yeah, that's the one.
No, no. That's the worst thing that could possibly happen.
That's the worst thing that could possibly happen. You can think of.
No, no. Your girlfriend just like, this isn't working out.
But that's a classic example where you see a dude. I would say like death probably is more.
No, no. Like a parent dying.
Something like that. You just come.
You see like your buddy comes back with a mean streak. A lot of it happens.
Like a girl breaks up with him. Then he like gets all pissed off.
Like your buddy loses a beer pong tournament. Intense trauma.
Girl cheats on you. Then you just get mean.

Oh, if you get cucked?

Yeah.

So what you're saying is somebody needs to cuck Jason Taney.

You just need to get immense.

I'm trying to actually think of an example in sports. Like even Anthony Davis, he was with the dog, LeBron James,

and he didn't get the dog from him.

He wasn't in – it wasn't – so like is there been an example?

It's especially bad with big men going back to Embiid and Anthony Davis

this is... He didn't get the dog from it.
He wasn't in – it wasn't – so, like, is there been – Well, it's especially bad with big men, going back to Embiid and Anthony Davis and DeAndre Ayton gets killed for this all the time. No doubt.
That the big men are the worst because it's twofold. One, they have been put on a track from the second they were in first grade and they were bigger than everybody.
They were told, like, you're going to be a basketball player, you're going to be a basketball player, that I think by the time they make the NBA and you're in your mid-20s, you're almost 30, whatever it is, part of you is probably like, I never fucking like this. I assume all big men kind of don't love basketball.
But then what makes us as fans go crazy is that all of us watching basketball are like, oh my God, if I was seven feet tall, I would at all times yeah how was this guy given this gift and not um so yeah the big men stand out more as as when it feels like they don't have the dog i'm going to speak for max here because i know that he was thinking about this when he said that i don't think joel and beat started playing basketball till he was what like 14 years old 12 years old? Yeah, I don't know. I'm pretty sure he played volleyball for his youth.
Yeah. For all his youth.
I think you might be able to grow a dog if you have other dogs around you that are strong. I think theoretically, yeah.
Alpha dogs that kind of show you how to become a follower. So I would say maybe some of the guys on the old Pistons teams.
So you had Ben Wallace, certified dog. Rasheed Wallace, certified dog.
I think Rip Hamilton became a dog. That's a good point.
After he got in the league. He was pretty damn dogish, though, at UConn.
Yeah. Chauncey might not have been a dog.
Here's one. What about Chris Bosh? Did he kind of get a little dog with the heat because remember he at the raptors he was called soft that's a good point that chris bosh is a good example he might be the example yeah a guy who gained some dog he was a bitch then he became a dog and he got a little heat culture in his life yeah he got heat culture he got dwayne wade he got haslam lebron yeah getting him tougher that example.
He might be the dog. He might be the example.
Andrew Wiggins. Andrew Wiggins did come to mind, but I don't think he – I think he got – so Andrew Wiggins is a good case of is having the dog into a binary thing where it's yes or no.
Right. Because I think he's got a skosh of – like he's definitely gotten more, but I would still vote that he's not.
Right. If it yes or no i would say no but i think he's like 45 there it's a slight no he's like a small dog like barking at the fence because he knows there's a fucking huge dog right behind him in draymond green where it's like i know i can do this because i know that if push comes to shove i got my big dog to back me up up.
Did Steve Kerr, like being punched in the face by Michael Jordan, if Steve Kerr wasn't on those Bulls teams? I think Steve Kerr had the dog from Billy, intense trauma, getting broken up with your girlfriend or your dad getting assassinated. Kind of the same thing.
Yeah. He probably gained the dog there.
Also, Steve Kerr, by sticking around and still competing and playing at a high level after your teammate punches you in the face, that's dog mentality. Yeah.
Yeah. It would be cat mentality to just quit, walk away.
Yeah. This is a great discussion.
I like this. We're really hammering down on what it is.
Hypothetically, envision a world where Chris Paul becomes a dog. Who does Chris Paul need to be around to become a dog? Not Kevin Durant and DeAndre Ayton.
Yeah. Devin Booker, I would say.
Chris Paul might be a dog. He's just too small.
But what? He is. Is there anybody in the NBA? What about him feels like a dog, though? He's kind of dirty.
He's more of. He's more of a...
Yeah, he probably is more of a bitch. You're right.
Yeah. There goes our Chris Paul interview.
It's funny because, like, I said that. I said that.
We've already said so much stuff. He got offered to us.
We're like, yeah, we'd love to have him on. Do you know what we say? We'll find out.
Chris Paul is, objectively speaking, much better than Baron Davis was. But I would much rather have Baron Davis on my team in a big game yeah yes dog i don't think anyone else who's gained it who's gained that dog to him this is this is a great i'm sure the the there's probably been some relief pitchers that get or some pitchers that get moved to being a closer and then they only have to pitch one inning and then they're like oh this guy figured it No, he only has to go out there and throw nine pitches.
Right. Miles per hour.
There's also some dog presenting players where if you actually look into it, like I'll say it. Is Zion a dog? No, no, no.
But he is dog presenting physically like such a specimen. And he's had when he has been on the court.
he's been special. But he might not be a dog.
Yeah. This is a great...
This is what I'm going to do tonight. Yeah, just go through all the NBA players and just be like, dog or no.
What happens with Dame? He's a certified dog. Yeah.
But he has no pack to run with. Dame and Jimmy Butler are probably my two favorite guys.
Two favorite Americans, I should say in the NBA at this point, because they, they feel like the only two guys that just hate everybody. And they, they, they just like, they're not buddy, buddy.
Cause like, this is the old school Derrick Rose when he was like pissed at LeBron for dancing and stuff. Like, I love that.
Like that, that mentality of like, Hey, we're not friends. I do think that that is like the, the, the part of the NBA that's turned off a lot of people.
Like there's a million reasons, you know, and especially you go in the middle of America. China.
Yeah, why they don't like China. The NBA, they'll give you a million reasons.
But I do think that like the first thing, if I could make one fix immediately for next season, it would be if there was some way to make the players not all be best friends again that would be my first they just all hate each other they all hate if they all like looked at each other like dame and jimmy butler look at the rest of the league yeah it would be awesome that would be awesome that's that's but i don't know how you do that because all these guys are in like a small fraternity of dudes that like i was saying earlier that like when they're 12 years old they're told you're gonna play in the nba and and then they all find each other at academies and then become best friends. Right.
The NBA and the way that basketball is set up down to the AAU leveling up, kind of made that behavior happen. Right.
Because the players were exploited for so long in the NBA. The league was making tons of money.
Players weren't allowed to make anything going to college. They weren't even allowed to jump directly to the NBA for for a little bit then they were then they're not it's uh it's been stacked against the players for a long time and so coming up with that environment the players were actually smart to band together as as young as they have to be like hey listen we need to be on the same page to maximize how much money we're going to make help our families out that whole thing i get that that's a that's actually a smart thing that they've done but now the players have all the power right and it does seem like it would be a much better product if they somehow figured out a way to like financially be on the same page in terms of collective bargaining and all that but at the same time just hate the shit out of it i wish there's a way all the players can make as much money as they're making because ultimately if it's coming down to the billionaire owners versus the millionaire players, I don't really care.
I'd give the players a ton of money. But I wish there was a way they could make the money.
They just don't know they're making that much money because I wish there was a way you could weed out the guys that don't want to be there because, like I was saying, all these big dudes, they're not going to quit playing basketball because they make so much damn money. But there was, if you romanticize the past of the NBA, to have the years where the superstars were making $1 or $2 million a year back in the 70s or 80s or whatever, there probably was more of a love for the game type shit.
The guys who were out there were not doing it because they're going to get generational wealth. They were doing it because they just want to beat the shit out of the guy on the other team yeah so if there's a way we could like pay these players but not actually they don't know how much they don't know how much like when they retire it's like by the way here's the 400 million dollars that'd be nice if at the end of every season there was like an ai script yeah that just took all the minutes you played all your stats your playoff wins all that and at end of every season, there's like bank account reveal day.
Yeah, you get paid for what you did that year. Because it does piss me off.
Like LeBron, he had the one famous press conference when he was asked about his haters. And he's like, at the end of the day, they got to wake up to their shitty lives and I'm still going to be.
Yeah. That attitude.
I mean, one, you're jealous when you're a fan and you see all that. But the other part is, like, you don't want, like, when the Phoenix Suns are getting eliminated from the playoffs, Devin Booker and Kevin Durant to just be shrugging their shoulders and be like, fuck it, we're rich as shit, dude.
Yeah. You know, who cares? No, yeah, right.
Our life goes on. You can think that, but please don't remind me what a loser I am.
Right, right, right. It's a weird setup because it's good perspective by the players, but also not what fans want to hear.
Like, they're actually having the healthy perspective on life. Very healthy, but also, yeah, it's not.
We actually should probably take a healthier perspective of, like, it's only a game. I'm trying to figure out how we get both, and I think that ship has sailed, unfortunately.
But're not going to hit each other yeah uh so going off lebron and we're talking about the nuggets versus the the lakers how good do you think brawny jr is going to be at usc uh i i don't think he's going to start um and i think that you have to start him come on they they are going i mean they have the number one recruit in the country

is going to start over I'm like I don't understand like this this is what's fascinating to me about USC is that uh Andy Enfield is just kind of overnight become the the John Calipari type guy who's just like the roster construction of having Dennis Rodman's son transferred from Washington State. You have Bronny James.
You have the number one recruit in the country, Isaiah Cobb, one of the number one recruits in the country. They have dudes coming back that are very good.
I don't think he's going to start, but I think he's going to be a very, very good player. But because his name is Bronny James and he's going to come off the bench and he's going to be a great defender.
is a great defender he is a good shooter um i think he's going to be very successful in his role for usc but he is going to get killed for it because he's not going to start an average 20 points a game a counterpoint he's lebron james son and lebron james controls everything in basketball yeah you don't think you think that they you think usc's coach is secure enough in his position but i can afford to tune out i do i think i think lebron is smart enough to know what's best for brawny would be coming off the bench now he's gonna have to deal with like i said like the media circus of as usc season wears on and he keeps coming off the bench um and everyone's going to be talking about it does he

actually suck but as far as like his actual basketball development putting him in that role would be great for him yeah because it's a matter of whether yeah i mean going from the bench to eventually if he's good enough to starting is a great story starting and then going to the bench is that's the failure yeah but they they they have boogie ellis back they have like the

USC's backcourt is very

very very good

um failure yeah but they they they have boogie ellis back they have um like the the usc's backcourt is very very very good um and i think like if but that's what's fascinating i guess that any infield has put himself in a position where it's like are you trying to talk about like taking the john calipari route where are you trying to win games in college or are you trying to like do something else where you're like building a brand of usc basketball and and i don't know what the right move is in 2023 at this point but if he's trying to win games bronny should come off the bench and that's not because bronny's bad it's because i think that's the best role for everyone on the team is cal is this a hot seat here for cal well yeah i can't believe we went this long without asking because they do have a really good team they have this kentucky team is going to be wild this kentucky team is robert dillingham uh and dj wagner like they're two they have a great recruiting class but those two dudes uh i'm not a recruiting expert but i am a guy that gets on youtube and google's recruits every so often have you watched the gus bus yet i have watched i might call him baby yokich by the by the way. I'm still the sign.

It's a chubbier kid in Wisconsin who's committed to the Badgers

who has the smoothest big game, chubby big game ever,

and his name is Gus.

Literal name is Gus.

That's the Gus bus.

The Gus bus, yeah.

Go on about Kentucky.

The two Kentucky freshmen,

they have a bunch of freshmen coming in.

They're awesome.

But the two headliners, they love having the ball in their hands,

and they love dribbling it,

and they love going nowhere with their dribbles.

I like that.

It's going to be awesome to watch.

So it's a hot seat.

But they're also super talented,

so it's going to be a fascinating Kentucky team for sure.

So Cal, as far as a recruiter goes,

obviously he's one of the best to ever do it.

What about as an X's nose guy? it has the criticism been warranted of coach cowl um i i i think the the criticism is is warranted in the sense of like all the talent he's had through the years now like he's he's doing things i i if you if you want to defend him you would say that like he's playing a game that no one else has been playing. Managing the egos and handling a bunch of freshmen year in and year out and having the revolving door of talent is tougher than it looks.
But at the same time, if you're watching the playoffs this year and the first round and you just stop and count up all the guys that are scoring 40 points every night in the NBA that played in Kentucky for John Calipari and he's won won one title. It is pretty wild to think about.
But, no, at this point, Cal is – the criticism is warranted of how he approaches the game. And Kentucky fans are, like, losing their minds over lineups and, you know, all that sort of thing.
So, I love this Nuggets talk. This is great.
Yeah, no, I actually do have a Nuggets question because they are advancing the finals. A lot of people have doubted the Nuggets over the years.
I don't consider myself to be one of them. I'm leaning from the front on the Nuggets.
What do the Celtics have to do to beat the Nuggets in the NBA finals? Who guards Jokic? Can't put Al Horford on him.

I love – the Nuggets, to me, feel like – I've been making this comparison for a few weeks,

and I'm getting more confident in it.

They feel like the Warriors in 2015.

Ooh.

Where the feeling I have watching them feels very similar to –

like when the Warriors were first –

before they ripped off all their titles,

if you remember Charles Barkley,

the name that comes to mind over it.

Cause I just remember Barkley being on TV every night.

Like they're fun.

They're good.

They're not winning the title.

They can't win the title.

Cause they're soft and they jump shoot and they jump shoot.

Yeah.

Jump shooting teams can't win the title.

It can't happen.

And I feel like that's kind of where we were at with the nuggets where I

think everyone agreed that they're a great team, but are they a great regular season team? Are they too soft? Can they play defense? Adding KCP and Aaron Gordon has been great defensively, and Bruce Brown's been – so they've made some tweaks to address their issues. They're still not a defensive-minded team, though, so there have been concerns about whether a team that's so heavily offensive minded can you know you have to play some sort of even because as much as the Warriors light up the scoreboard they still play great they play still play great defense when they're winning titles um but yeah that's that's where I feel very similar things watching this Nuggets team that I felt watching the Warriors in 2015 where I'm like I don't think think but at the same time goddamn they god damn, they're good.
And Jokic, the stuff he does feels like Steph. I don't mean the same stuff.
I just mean like the way you just like start cackling, laughing, watching him play, and you're like, how is this man? Well, and they actually are similar in the fact that when you're watching Jokic or Steph, the defense has to basically always, it's almost like a vacuum where everyone has to collapse on them because they're so dangerous that you get open shots for everyone else. And you think he's good for – with Steph, you think the reason he's good is because he's such a great shooter, and it is.
But Steph's an incredible passer. Steph's an incredible ball handler.
Steph does all these other things really well that if you get caught up and thinking like all we have to do is because that was the thing with Steph when he first like came into the league that people that didn't really know what the hell they were talking about with him was like why don't you just like crawl up into him and like not let him get a shot just put a hand in his face and not let him get a shot I was like well he's gonna dribble right past you or he's gonna Jokic is the same way where that was what was cracking me out after game one with the Lakers where Rui Hachimura guarded Jokic at the end of game one for like six possessions. And because the Nuggets were up by 40 and then won by 25, it was like the Lakers have figured something out.
Right. But I was laughing because I'm like, as soon as you think you've figured out Jokic, he can do so many other things well that there is no – he's not good because he's a good shooter.
He's not good because he's a good passer. He's not good because he's a good shooter he's not good because he's a good passer he's not good because he he's good because he's a great basketball player all around do any he could if you double team him every time he touches the ball he will kill you and he will be the best player on the floor if you don't double team him every time he touches the ball he will kill you and he will be the best player on the floor do you know what it is another debate and you're absolutely right like they're when people were tweeting like oh yeah yokich hasn't scored in the fourth quarter it It's like, but do you understand that he is making all these shots happen? They're all scoring because of him.
Hooper versus basketball player. Jokic is a Hooper.
Jokic is a Hooper, yeah. And then there's basketball players.
Jalen Brown's a basketball player. I actually think the other way around.
Hold on. Because it seems like you're heading down a road where a basketball player is not good.
No, no, they are good, but it doesn't seem as natural. Like Kevin Durant's a Hooper.
Yeah, but I think there are Hoopers there. I think Jordan Poole's a Hooper, and I would love Jordan Poole to be more of a basketball player at times.
I think that's why, remember when USA Basketball hit that swoon in the 2000s, we had a shitload of Hoopers on the team. Way too many Hoopers our three-point threats were i think like jason richardson was like it was like our dead eye outside shooter and we were getting bodied by argentinians and eastern europeans because they're basketball players i think basketball player is better than hooper if you're if you're at like that top level it yeah it depends on what you're i guess you want out of it depends on the role if if for your superstar you want a hooper i think yeah because yokich can do everything and he also like it's just yeah he it's natural for him like everything is fluid and feels natural when you're watching it yeah or it doesn't like he's not he's never thinking it feels like he's he's he's he's incredible it's all innate it is i i it is hilarious that that he uh did not win MVP.
Ip it's fine i don't really care i i think i think it is valid to give a guy an mvp because you're bored with the guy that's won it the last two years i think that's a fair fatigue i think ultimately like it's a it's a it's a fucking entertainment you know like the whole reason the nba exists is just for like for storylines and entertainment whatever and if you decide we've given it to this guy two years in a row, we kind of want some new blood in there. That checks out.
But it is hilarious that, you know, like from my understanding, the reason he didn't want to give it to Jokic is because he keeps coming up short in the playoffs. Right.
So we give it to him. You know, Jokic might win the title.
Right. I mean, a lot of guys don't understand what a smart player Jokic is.
I do. Me and LeBron, we both understand.
We saw from day one what a special guy he was. I actually think Jokic might be almost as good a passer as Steph Curry as a shooter.
He's an incredible pat. And his touch is just insane.
My favorite ones are the floaters where he's jumping off his right foot, shooting with his right hand. A shot that when I was coming up in basketball, no one would practice because it would be absurd if you tried a shot like that.
Now these guys do practices. You see the Drew Hanlon workout videos.
They're guys doing wrong foot jumps with opposite – they're doing everything. The guys are super skilled.
But seeing a guy that big and that sloppy who kind of like waddles up and down the court, like shooting wrong footed, wrong hand, you know, like. The soccer throw-ins behind the back of the neck.
He also has. It's incredible.
Yeah, it really is. And he also has a little bit of similar to like Paul Pierce, where Paul Pierce wasn't the most athletic or the fastest guy, but there's like never, it's all deliberate steps.
Like Jokic knows where he's going and and the deliberate step like he doesn't have to beat you with speed if he uses deliberate steps right yeah i i think too as i'm thinking with the steph comparison and the warriors comparison and all that uh steph and yokich both have the the the feeling as you're watching them that it feels like you're watching yourself because yoki yokich being a bigger boy that you know is not exactly chiseled uh feels like he's overweight or whatever i think there's an element of like you almost forget he's seven feet tall right so when you're watching him you're like that kind of looks like me when i you know and the same people are doing the same thing with steph we're like steph steph's like the lore of steph curry has been built to where he's just like this this five seven yeah i know like under likedust. I'm like this dude, son of an NBA player, like an All-American volleyball player.
And he's a tall person if you put him in regular world. He's got incredible genetics.
I know. But when you're watching him, you're like, that could be me out there because I'm not that big either.
Yeah. So I think there's a sense of wonder as you're watching both of those guys.
The optical illusion i think plays into it as well it would be very funny if you know we joke about how steph curry ruined basketball where now everybody goes out on the court if you're a kid if you're like the biggest kid out there you still want to shoot from from 40 feet out because you want to be steph what if the opposite what if yokich just dominates for the next 10 years in the nba every kid grows up trying to be Jokic, even like the little kids?

There's just an influx of fat people.

Yeah.

I mean, that would be good for the league, I think,

just loaded up with a bunch of fatties.

Gaspas.

He's going to get chiseled, but he's a fabric.

But he's also 18.

All right, so nuggets in how many?

I do think if the Celtics come back, I guess this is the reality we have to live in, that the Celtics are going to come back and beat the Heat. The Nuggets are the best team left in the NBA.
I mean, the Celtics at their best might be better than that. I don't know.
That becomes a debate, but I just don't understand why everyone keeps thinking the Celtics are going to do the one thing. I don't know, but they keep surviving.
I guess I'm talking myself into it now. I'm so confident that they're not going to win.
Like I keep saying. They're down 3-1, Mark.
3-1. It's never happened.
It's never happened. But you bet on them, so that makes it.
You bet on the Heat, which makes it. The first time I was nervous about the Celtics coming back and actually doing this is them winning and PFT doing that bet.
Cause that is like that. That is how, and Hank being able to laugh in your face.
Like, yeah, that is the story of the show. Counterpoint Jake Marsh.
What do you true? I got Jake Marsh on my side. Do you remember the times that something like this happened? And then the heat went out in game five and won by 19 and you know just everyone then they just moved on and everyone just forget like the i feel like there's confirmation bias with this stuff they remember the jinxes but do you remember the time when you were like there's no world in which the celtics are going to come back and then in fact the celtics do not come back and yeah and we all all just move on.
I could also see a world where five years from now we're still making fun of Hank for

his series-clinching Game 4 victory in Miami to go down 3-1 in the playoffs.

Yeah.

And the victory lap that he took after that.

Yeah.

It's the Cavs and Warriors.

Whatever it was, 2017 or 2018 when they were down.

I think the Warriors won Game 4 and everyone's like, whoa.

Sorry, the Cavs won Game 4. Yeah.
and then the warriors beat them in five yeah like oh okay yeah that makes sense yeah i think the nuggets are gonna i mean the nuggets have been a machine and they're they are uh it's it's it's been fascinating watching people slowly go from like i think there's a way they could do it to yeah they're in the mix to now it's like like they are. Because they're so much deeper than they get credit for.
Like having Michael Porter Jr. be your third option offensively is insane.
Insane to have that luxury, a 6'10 guy that just lets it rip. And there were times when Austin Reeves was guarding him and he wasn't even there.
He's trying to put his hand in his face and Porter just jumping over him and shooting shooting. Aaron Gordon's awesome.
This Nuggets team is so freaking fun, and everyone that's worried about a Heat Nuggets finals. Oh, it's going to be awesome.
And they're like, I don't want to watch that. You obviously cheer for laundry and not basketball.
Right. Because the Heat and the Nuggets are the two best teams.
To this point, again, the Celtics, as we know, are going to come back and beat the Heat. But uh the heat have been the way they've been playing in the playoffs has been awesome and fun uh to watch but the nuggets are the nuggets are the most fun team to watch in the nba so i don't understand why you would rather have the lakers and 38 year old lebron running out of gas and ad giving half-ass effort d'angelo russell like is he going to be good tonight or not like why would you want that in the finals yeah the team that's completely agree rooting for laundry that's what they're doing um i think that would be the highest disparity possible in terms of elevation between two cities in the finals miami and denver right new orleans miami's oh yeah new orleans below sea level yeah new orleans miami is like right i guess new orleans couldn't play denver new orleans utah but no they can't play either so i guess it probably miami ut be more.
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R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com. So, Titus, we are what a month two months away from the chicago move yep what are you most looking forward to in the new office i can't wait till it opens i can't wait i want to snap my fingers and have to be september september 1st it's opening for sure definitely nothing can go wrong don't do that don't do that don't john what are we are we is it is it on track uh it is pretty much on track really yes basically on track yes football tj no hold on hold on hold Hold on, hold on, hold on, is it on track? It is pretty much on track.
Really? Yes. Basically on track.
Yes. Football.
TJ. No, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Is it on track for pardon my take or is it on track for all of us? Possibly. TJ said to me, he goes, we might have to push back the opening of the office because they don't want to open it in waves.
They don't want to open it in stages. They want to open it for everybody at the same time uh but also part of my take's going to move in first and then everyone else and i was like is that not the definition yeah well i mean i said to him because hank wanted to wait and i was like dude if we wait till it's fully fully done we won't open till january i i confidently think we will be in there working still have to finish some things by week one of the nfl all right yeah i do you don't are you no shut up why you gotta put negative energy out there what has a better chance there's just a difference between what hank thinks is happening and what big cats thinks is happening there's just there's just well there's just colliding there's just colliding thoughts do a fucking like cribs like shiny you know ribbon cutting thing i I want to go to work.
I want to go to work. When they're ready with a microphone and a chair, get us in.
I think he's exactly correct. We will be in there first.
But there's no way the whole office is in there. It's a number one.
If the Heat win the next game and then Hank's not allowed to golf for all of June, that office is going to open on time. He might build it himself.
That's going to open on time. If Hank is able to play golf through the month of June, we might not get in there until January.
Right. Right.
Yeah. I'm excited.
Whenever, whenever it happens, I just, I I've been working under the assumption that it's, you know, we need to stop that. We need to put positive.
What has a better chance of having the Celtics coming back from down Oh three or this office or me never mind you guys because I do you guys you're you're gonna obviously rightfully so get get in there first and and all that it would be doing our podcast studio is completely finishing yeah I haven't started anything else all the trim you got like all the bare wall Brandon Walker would burn the place down yeah Brandon needs to have a studio done first. I'm sharing a studio with Brandon.
It's the Mark Titus show featuring Brandon Walker. That would be awesome if my half of the studio was done.
Yeah. I can make that happen.
So what is the thing that you're most excited for? I'm excited for... Honestly, this might sound stupid, but I'm excited to just be around like i'm excited to be in a sports city not not to shit on la i love la i love living there um i'm excited to live in a city where i can on a saturday go to a bar and i don't have to tell them to put on the football games yeah or the sunday that i i'm i'm actually very excited.
Every time I go to Chicago and I walk around and I see Big Ten bumper stickers and flags and that sort of thing, it gets the juices pumping. So I'm excited to be around my people, basically.
And just the office. I am very excited.
You're here right now for the dozen. No, no, but that's fine.
But you're here for the dozen and the office has been been buzzing. Yeah.
But then you can see when people leave, it, like, falls flat again. I want buzzing all the time.
I do. I mean, I'm the same way.
I worked from home when I was working at the Ringer. They were based in L.A.
I'm living in Ohio. I was losing my mind working from home, so I was like, I got to get out of here.
I moved to L.A. And then I got out there, and they're like, yeah, we don't really don't really come into the office i was like this is crazy so then i went to fox and then the second i go to fox covet happens and everyone's at home like so this has been like i've been starving for an office to go into and mix it up with the boys this makes you want to never open the office yeah it's actually we're all working remote there was no no office.
I would go crazy.

I would go crazy. No, there will be an office.

That's why I'm trying to...

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And it will be a luxury if you come to me in September

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I'm going to make...

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We're going to start this week because Succession Season Series Finale, Sunday night, 90 minutes. I'm so excited.
I don't remember the last time I've been this excited about a series finale PFT. By the way, if you're listening right now, you haven't watched, spoiler alert, we are going to talk about Succession.
So we'll put in a timestamp. If you have not caught up, stop listening right now and jump ahead.
But we are going to talk. There will be some light spoilers in this preview of the Succession series finale.
Also, before we start, in honor of Max and Max,

who's his birthday today,

I got him a present that I'm going to give to you guys.

Oh, happy birthday, Max.

Happy birthday, Max.

I didn't know it was your birthday.

How old are you?

40?

I'm 28.

Big Cat was mean on Twitter.

I was not 28.

What did you say?

You said I was 39, I believe.

My thumbs. Yeah.
I thought you were 40. Oh, no.
Oh, no. What are they? They're insult socks.
Hank got Max. Number one dog dad.
Oh, no. Soul patch socks.
Look at that. That was memes.
Shout out to memes. These are beautiful.
Are these for Max or these for us? It's Max's birthday present, yeah, for you guys. I'll wear a pair as well.
We both have a pair. Number one dog dad.
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Hank, did you make his face fatter in Photoshop? This is a meme special. I'm just the messenger.
No, I think that's how fat his face is. It looks like you got stung by bees.
Yeah, so it's Max a palooza right now. Happy birthday, Max.
Let's talk some Succession. Series finale.
PFT, where do you want to start? Who do you think is going to win? Okay. Here's how we'll start it.
So what's the play? What's the play? I love Succession. It's one of my favorite shows.
It's been a fantastic series. If you haven't watched it, you should.
I assume most people who are listening right now have watched it. I do love that now the theories are starting.
One of my favorite ones is Greg is somehow going to climb the top and win it all. I was thinking that Greg might do it, but that also feels a lot like Bran becoming king at the end of Game of Thrones.
So I switched off that take. I think Conor's actually going to end up doing something big in the last show.
So I was thinking about it because it's like, oh, wouldn't it be fun? Because when you get to the end of a great series like this, everyone has their theories. Everyone wants something crazy to happen.
I don't think anything crazy is going to happen. I think it's going to be in line with the show in that the theme of the show is everything's transactional.
These people are brutal, brutal people who have like no morals and they just cut each other's throats. They say, I love you.
Then they cut each other's throats the next day. I think it is going to be Kendall because like I said, I watched the first episode ever and he was the beginning of the episode.
was supposed to take over then and I think that what we've seen in this season is Kendall has slowly finally morphed into his dad where last episode we saw him just like berating Roman being like you fucked it you fucked this up that was very Logan like and we're just talking to old uh old skinny neck and he was like let's go the h-man listen this is what's going to happen you go uh you're going to get you're going to make millions but you're going to be my dog yeah and he said wolf wolf yeah it's a great scene but so yeah hugo uh jess his so i'm basically this all my theory is based all on the last episode where he tells Roman he fucked it. He basically belittles him.
He also had a moment where Roman couldn't do, for the second time this season, Roman couldn't step up. He couldn't step up for Liv Plus.
He couldn't step up for his dad's obituary. He basically, or, uh.
Eulogy. Eulogy.
Roman, or Kendall had to go and save the day twice.

And he is finally morphed into his father where he berated Roman. He is at odds with Shiv where they essentially like will have no relationship going forward.
You saw the scene where Jess, his assistant quit and he was he's basically alone. He then tried to get the, what's the guy's Colin?

Logan's old bodyguard who knows that kendall killed a person he's like yeah why don't you come in with me like i have no friends you will be my friend that was logan's only friend in life essentially and you also saw the scene with his with his uh ex-wife and kids where all of his relationships have completely erased. He has no one left, and I think that that is how they're going to end the show, where with no one left, he becomes the king, but at what cost, literally his entire life, and that's kind of what Logan was, where it was like, he was the king, but he had no relationship with his kids, good relationship with his kids everyone feared him everyone hated him behind his back so it's like he's finally morphed into the final iteration of logan so he's he's a tragic figure that could could end up being becoming successful but also everybody knows like this is he's going to have a bad life right moving forward right he has no one I could see Roman going off and doing a Keith Olbermann, getting real woke on him and going to the other side.
I could see Connor turning his back, becoming like the Liz Cheney of that family and turning their back on everything that the family was for and trying to score points on the other side. Because that happened with the Murdochs.
Isn't there one Murdoch? Is there one? I'm pretty sure one of them hates the way Fox News is run. It might be the case, but I think one of them is going to turn on the entire family, turn on ATN, turn on everything.
I think the Scandinavian dude that's supposed to kind of like the elon musk of that world he's going to get found out for being a huge fraud and he's going to fade away he's looked weaker and weaker as the series has gone on there also feels like there's got to be at least some conclusion to him sending courts of blood to his ex-girlfriend yeah who's also his head of pr yeah there's um there's a very funny tweet from owen phillips and it lists the 10 most common words that they say on succession and they listed them all out and he said that it sounds like you're doing a kindle roy impression okay so number one has to be fuck right uh no that's number three so if you read if you read the most common 10 words it's yeah uh fuck no just okay like oh well right that might as well be a script right out of kindle roy's mouth yes can we get a uh a power ranking your top five characters who uh i like i like roman roman's funny now he's a real piece of shit and he's become more of a piece of shit but he's still they're all pieces of shit he's still he's still like very funny yeah roman is funny. Greg is obviously the comedic effect of the show.
That was great during Ewan's eulogy, who is Logan's brother. He went up and eulogized Logan.
And Greg afterward was like, that was a hard take. Yeah.
That was a hard take right there. Now, Ewan might actually, he might come out on top.
He could. Because if there's anybody that truly knows where the bodies are buried.

Right.

And really, the last big fuck off that Logan could leave in his wake would be by giving all the information about how bad the company is to a guy that already hates the company.

Right.

And has been trying to take him out for years and letting his own brother sink the ship on all of his fuck up sons and daughters yes that the more i think about it that that could happen that could happen like he comes in just destroys the company and everything they've worked for i just the only reason i think so oh top five characters greg uh i love tom tom is very funny uh roman for sure i'm trying to think who else would be in the top i mean logan is was obviously the sun that like everyone orbited around um disgusting brothers disgusting brothers so far it also fucks me up whenever i'm watching a shiv and tom scene which this season has been like that scene of them on the porch uh whatever it was episode seven was just like incredible incredible acting

but there was a part of me that was like tom's actually british in shiv's australia yeah that if you watch the post show when they when they interview him it breaks your brain it's like hearing idris alba speak for the first time you're like wait this guy's not from baltimore it tells you how great this like these actors are because i really do believe that Tom is from Minnesota. Yeah.
Like, so,

um,

the,

yeah,

the only reason I keep going back to Kendall is this show is so brutal and

it's so like,

it's so clear what it's capitalism.

It's transactional.

Everything is transactional.

And it feels like as much as we want it to be something crazy ending where

someone dies or Greg takes over.

It's like just the idea that Kendall will be at the top top but he will have no one he will have no family nothing no one will be like like kendall he will have given up his entire life to get the one thing he's been after since episode one like 10 minutes into episode one he was trying to do this and it will be like at what cost and what this is how the world works you got what you wanted but you have no you have nothing so the else the the undercurrent yeah what did it cost everything the undercurrent in this entire show is that logan has uh he's been a bad guy to his entire family his family hates him but they have no choice but to use him to advance their own careers right and the close the any sibling or any uh child that is closest to him at any given time is the one that's in power only for logan to just rip all that power away from them at the drop of a hat it's like when he did his when he wrote his will and testament and then he crossed out slash underlined kendall kendall's name on it i think he did that shit on purpose just to fuck with Kendall so that Kendall would see it and not know, not ever know whether or not his dad wanted him to have the company or definitely did not want him to have the company. Right.
And the one way that he could absolutely take, like, fuck with his kids in the afterlife because he hates his kids. He doesn't.
I don't think he likes anybody. He likes himself.
The one way that he could fuck his kids over is by taking the blowing up the company now that he's gone yeah yeah he yeah he he has he that's that's where i go back to like logan had no friends everyone feared him yeah no one loved him and that's kind of where kendall like you've seen it morph in this last season where he's become more and more brutal and more in that scene where he's just telling Roman after Roman just completely like broke down. You fucked it.
You fucked it. That felt like a Logan thing to do where it's like you are a fuck up.
You're not a serious person. I will have to save the day yet again i would like to see kindle perhaps go on another

meth binge too that'd be fun there's also there's a looming specter of violence in the background yeah which is the the protest that you see like somebody could get killed in the last episode one of the siblings could get caught up and like found on the streets by one of the protesters and get their throat slit or whatever that's definitely a possibility there might be some violence that goes on uh i also like the looming specter of the board yes they always have in every episode where it's like well the board's going to go nuts but i think i can push this through the board if you're a business person you know that having a board is just such a great excuse to not do anything yeah the board because you can say like listen the board i don't have the votes on the board to do this i have to take this deal to the board right you can say, like, oh, I've got, that's like basically saying I have a get-out-of-jail-free card. Right.
It's a great excuse. Actually, you know what? We should get a board on this show for doing stuff that we don't want to do.
We'll be like, yeah, we want to do it. We have to get approval from the board first.
From the board, yeah. It should just be like Stella and memes.
Yeah. They have to talk about it.
That's the board. They'll get back to you.
So the board might pull a power play here and then the board just gets control over it. Yes.
Yeah. I'm very, very excited for this.
It's going to be an awesome. I think they're going to do a great job of ending it because I also like in reading some of the interviews of Jesse Armstrong who created the show, like they could easily do another three seasons of this.
But they're like, no, we're going to leave everyone wanting more. Kind of like when Seinfeld was offered like $100 million to do a 10th season of Seinfeld.
He's like, no, I don't want to fade. I want everyone to want more.
And that's what I feel. I feel like we're going to want more at the end of this.
And it will be a great – And Seinfeld didn't end well. Yeah, but it will it'll be a terrible yeah it's true okay they all so all the roy siblings end up in jail together in a cell sharing their their their deepest fears with each other i also it is funny too watching the show and the whole time being like if i were in any of these kids spot i would just be like yeah let's fucking do this deal i'll get two billion dollars i'll go buy a sports team yeah like i like if but that's the that's the great part about this show is that they all are after something that i like it's unattainable they want that power they want that they also yeah meaningfulness they want they want approval from a guy who's already dead right and they have so much they have more money than and it's not enough.
Could you imagine being in a situation where you're like, if this deal happens, you get $2 billion and be like, no, we have to stop this deal just so I can keep power. Yeah.
It's going to be awesome. I can't wait.
It's been one of the greatest series in a long time on TV. The highest compliment I can pay to it is at the beginning, if you're watching it on demand and it says, do you want to skip intro? You never hit skip intro because the theme song is such a fucking banger.
Yeah. That guy.
I met that guy. Yeah, I did too.
I had dinner with him and he's a cool guy. He doesn't watch sports at all.
Yeah. I just basically, I spent the entire time sitting next to him and I was just like, so what do you do on Sundays? He's like, well, I central park yeah enjoy life yeah look at some music look at nature it's like what it's uh it's such a banger of a theme song there needs to be a rap song that uses that as a sample there is is there l to the og oh what song is it there's a push a t song oh yeah no there should be another one remember remember look remember kendall's rap i don't know what's going on right now l to the og I'm very familiar with Pusha T song.
Oh, yeah. No, there should be another one.
Remember Kendall's rap? I don't know what's going on right now. L to the OG? I'm very familiar with Pusha T.
Wait, you actually not know that? Are you like making sure it? No, we know it. Of course I know that.
We were making sure you guys knew it. Duh.
It was a test for Hank. Okay, so go download max.com.
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Tell me which one you want, PFT. Here is...
Let me find my list. Where's my list, Hank? Okay.
Bloodsport. Marked for Death.
Cobra. Rambo.
Man on Fire. Or The Heat.
The Heat with Melissa McCarthy. Bloodsport.
Thanks, PFT. Yeah, Bloodsport.
Okay. Bloodsport's correct.
So next week we're going to review Bloodsport. So if you want to watch it, it's max.com.
Go watch it. We'll also do some newer movies coming up.
But next week will be Bloodsport on Friday. So watch it.
It's one of my favorite movies. I've never seen it.
Oh, Jean-Claude Van Damme.'re gonna love it it's a great movie so blood sport next week get excited okay everyone who's back we'll put who missed succession recap you can listen to that when you finally watch the whole show uh let's finish up with fire fest fire fest hank fire fest of the week I packed all my clothes

And I've been wearing the same outfit for two days. And nobody's noticed.
You didn't plan on leaving out two outfits or three outfits? Did you hear the beginning of the thing? I feel like before you packed the clothes. Wait, Hank, when are you unpacking your clothes? Friday.
Okay. Okay, so you've got another day.

You're going to be wearing those for four days in a row?

It will be, yeah, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday morning.

Same underwear?

No, I have underwear.

I have all my underwear and all my socks.

That's the only thing in my suitcase.

Okay.

And then.

That's valid.

I love.

I didn't even have a sweatshirt yesterday. I was like, I am so fucking stupid.
Thankfully, I had this in my suitcase. Okay.
And then. That's valid.
I love. I didn't even have a sweatshirt yesterday.
I was like, I am so fucking stupid. Thank God I had this in my car.
But yeah. I love watching Hank grow up.
It's one of my favorite things. It's the best.
He's going to be 30 soon. Yeah.
Wait, we got to have a bash. I'll be here.
Yeah, we'll be back in New York. Yeah, we'll be doing something.
Throw a dinger. Okay.
PFT, your fire fest? My fire fest of the week is I'm going AWOL from the Navy, despite never having joined the Navy. You're too fat.
I was going to be going up in an F-18 on Friday, and that's the day that I have to close on the house, and it turns out I have to be there in person. And so I had to go AWOL from the Navy.
I feel bad because I wanted to go up in this F-18. I really did.
I was so excited about it. It had been something I've been looking forward to for the last month, a real bucket list opportunity.
I couldn't make it work. I tried everything that I could.
I can't make it work. It just happens to be on the same day that I'm making the biggest purchase probably ever that I'll ever make in my life.
And I can't, I can't not be there for that. Uh, I do have, I'll just say I have bone spurs.
I can't go up in the airplane. My doctor said I have bone spurs.
It would be unhealthy for me to go up in the F 18. Maybe I'll do it in a year if those get cured, but, uh, I do deal.
If anybody is in Pennsylvania or the Poconos area, as Hank said, the Poconos are not in the Bahamas, Hank. He mistook Poconos with the Kokomo.
It happens. That was during Delirious Hank.
But if anybody is in Pennsylvania or New York... I mean, the Poconos does not sound like Pennsylvania.
It's alliteration. It's not alliteration.
It's syllables. It is syllables.
It is syllables. Yes.
And some consonants. But I do have discounted tickets.
And for somebody that if you buy tickets using this link, send me the receipt, take a screenshot of it. I'm going to be giving away my Thrustmaster joystick that I've personally used to shoot down over 100 MiG-29s.
Is that a bonk or no? My Thrustmaster? It's on you for thinking that. Hank, it's a piece of military equipment.
Your Thrustmaster joystick? Yeah. That's on you.
Yeah, I'm giving away my used Thrustmaster joystick. It's had my hand gripped around it for hours and hours and hours while looking at a computer screen, not sexual.
But I am giving away my Thrustmaster to somebody who buys tickets.

If you go to PoconoRaceway.com slash PFT.

Are you a sex worker?

Buy tickets to the air show.

You know what?

I'll throw in PFT's fleshlight, too.

I don't have a fleshlight.

Do they fit?

I do not currently own a fleshlight.

That's a Thrustmaster 5,000.

I've got the Thrustmaster.

It's the throttle and the stick.

But I will give one of those away.

If you go to PoconoRaceway.com slash PFT,

the air show is going to kick ass.

So in the air show,

they're going to have the Blue Angels demonstrating.

This is Saturday and Sunday.

They're also going to have an F-22 demonstration,

which is something I would give my left nut to go watch because F-22s are amazing. They kick ass.
So I would like to apologize formally to the United States Navy for backing out and going AWOL from you. Please don't court-martial me.
I hope that we can do something. I'll go sign here for your house if you want me to.
I'll hold on to that for a little bit. That's forgery, Hank.
I'll just take it. You're going to squat in my house.
Then it becomes your house. God, if I have Hank living in my house, the resale value just goes through the basement.
But yeah, please go check it out if you're in the area. It's going to be a great time.
I would love to go there. Unfortunately, I can't.
Apologies to the AWLs that I said. I promised.
I told you I was going to be there. Apologies to the US Navy.
During Fleet Week? Yeah, during Fleet Week, no less. Yeah, no less.
But yeah, get that Thrustmaster joystick. It might even...
It's got some of my DNA on it. Like it.
Yeah, by the way, you guys should get ready. The air and water show that they do, I'm sure it's similar in the Poconos, but there's one in Chicago that usually is like August, and just get ready because there'll be like a Tuesday where they're practice, and you think that the whole city's under attack.
Well, apparently there's fireworks like six nights a week in Chicago. Yeah, on Navy Pier.
Yeah, but you will definitely be like, what the fuck was that? Because it should be buzzing. Yeah.
That was thought, like, I saw jets overhead, and I was like, what the fuck are we being attacked? No, Billy. Oh, Aaron Rodgers is just back.
Billy told me yesterday that F-22s broke the sound barrier over his head when he was going running. I was like, Billy, you're full of shit.
Number one, there's no chance those were F-22s. Number two, they're not allowed to break the sound barrier when they're flying over residential areas, you fucking infant.
Okay, my Fyre Fest. It's kind of like a future Fyre Fest.
So PFT and Hank are closing on their houses tomorrow, and they're moving. We're actually moving in together.
It's the same house. I just have tremendous FOMO that you guys are moving, and I still have like a month and a half in New York.
And we just went through our whole schedule, and June's going to suck. June's going to suck for us.
So AWLs, this is when you earn your takeies. We're going to have some, actually our schedule we're going to do.
We're basically doing everything we can for our kids here. The AWLs.
We're moving our schedules around to make sure that you have the best content, but we'll still pick you up from soccer practice. Yeah.
But the next month is going to suck because we're kind of traveling. We're all over the place.
We're taping stuff. We're going to make sure that for July 4th week we have a baseball draft and Dungeons & Dragons, the takeies.
So we're still going to do everything. We're going to have everything for you.
We're not going to be missing any shows. It's just going to suck for a little bit.
I'm moving to Chicago this weekend, and then I will not be back until July. That's PFT is the same way i'm going to spend way more time outside of chicago than inside of chicago but i i'm looking forward to a lot of it uh i'm gonna i'm gonna do all the things that big cat's not gonna be able to do for another month i'm gonna go to cubs games i'm gonna go to donut shops you can have my seats i'm gonna i'm gonna do everything i'm actually i'm looking forward to drinking as much malort as possible love malort jake you're you're going to love Malort, Jake.
Oh, yeah, you're going to love Malort. I think I had a shot of it for a draft show or something.
I did one. I don't know.
We cheersed. I remember.
It was like the holidays. I'll have to find the video.
Yeah, I've had it before. I'm going to do Malort reviews.
Every bar I go to that has Malort. I like it.
I like it. Is it the same thing? No, it's different from bar to bar.
Different from every place. You know what I love about Chicago and the brief time that I've spent there is how dark the dive bars are.
Yeah. It's great.
They save a fuckload of money on that electricity bill. There's some great dive bars.
Billy. So I got a truck and I try to get as much use out of it as I can, helping people move, moving, doing all sorts I can.
But one thing that like justifies in my head, having a truck is moving my cousin's boat every year. This morning I got, uh, rear ended and my truck's fine and fucked up the other guy's car way more, but it was his fault.
And I just like walked out and I just looked at my truck. I was like, okay, it's fine.
Like, don't worry about it. My tow hitch got fucked the day before I'm supposed to move my cousin's boat.
Can't you just put it in the water and move it that way? No, like, put it in the water. Get it to the water.
Get it to the water. Oh, get it to the water.
Yeah. It's dry dock right now.
So just, like, first time, it's, like, in their backyard. I i'm supposed to move it tow hitch got fucked up the day before just like fuck it is didn't take the guy's information well i i was in a hurry and i was just like like it's fine just like but it's not fine but i the thing is like my the body's fine i just didn't check like the specifics of the tow hitch and like how to hook the thing that hooks up to it yeah so you you beefed it up yeah it's beefed up it's bad now i have to are you gonna try though and like make it work i'm gonna literally get a hammer out and try to hammer back just make it fit that's a common one sees a truck on the side of the highway there's a will there's a way a boat rolling down the, someone's going to see a boat rolling down the highway.
I'm going to try to make it work. I'm going to fucking hammer that shit back into place, get a blowtorch out, try to make the metal more movable and malleable.
If there's one tool you should use for car repairs, it's definitely a hammer. I'm going to be hitting that shit like a blacksmith.
If I go to a mechanic shop and I see a hammer on the wall, I'm leaving. That's the one thing that they'll never use.

I think I can bend it back into place.

With your bare hands?

It is an alpha move, though.

If you get into an accident and you step out of your car and your car is fine and the other guy is fucked up, you're like, nice car.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

You'll figure it out.

I'm going to beat the shit out of that toe.

Yeah, you're going to get that.

I'm going to be like, fucking. Yeah.
Like what? How are you going to be like? Fuck it. Pitting it like Tom should be.
Billy just didn't hold me back with his fucking truck. Respectfully, I'd knock that out of the park.
Yeah. You should see me with a hammer.
Jake, finish this off. Also, firefights for you guys for not.
I feel like I was justified. You guys not knowing that original Mark jackson clip a lot of people were mad that we that we showed the full context yeah we i i would like to just go with hanks understanding the situation that mark jackson wanted to pipe lay that pipe up on savannah also i had a the take i had about the thursday night football game someone did point out to me that it means that you can't you can't plan to go to an away sund Sunday game as well because you might get flexed Thursday.
Didn't think about that. Yeah, that's a good point.
So that was a good point by them. Yeah.
But I think we've reached the point where we primarily think of football as a TV sport. Right, exactly.
Not an in-person sport. Correct.
We lose track of the fact that people. Well, in our defense, 99% of the audience is tv yep probably higher 99.9 uh jake finish us off yeah this is a bittersweet fire fest but just being the last episode before hank and pft move it's just you should turn in tune into pm tv on youtube we go down memory lane yeah by the time he listens just but it's not really because we're gonna do like a ton of content i know it's just like the thought yeah i don't like you trying to like jump ahead with the goodbyes well we're doing pm tv it's a plug i cleaned up the pile yesterday yeah yeah that was a sad sad moment i had a lot of a lot of old memories that i dug through a lot of fullback jerseys that i just uncovered in the pile yesterday it's more that we have have so much shit we have to do in June that it's like not.
It's the unofficial closing. Yeah.
All right. Numbers real quick.
Finish us off. 18, 17.
I saw a guy on the street today. He said 55.
So I'm going to do that. He's like, big cat.
Guess 55. I was like, don't dude.
Has memes ever gone this? No, he's not. I'm going to do 99.
Okay. 17, you said, Hank? Yep.
What was yours? Billy? 69. Or Jake? 18? Yeah.
Fuck, is it not on? Can you see it? It's on. It's on.
There it is. Wasn't plugged in.
Oh, my God. JJ WJ.
Watt, 99. 99! Yes! Oh, I thought that was 69.
Yes, he is. Yeah! Hell, yes.
All right. Last show in the studio.
Yeah. Get 99.
Here we go. He's officially the most wins.
Yeah. The most wins.
Wow. Five.
I'm the fucking king of this studio. I thought it was 69 my fucking house you and Brooks Koepka five yes this is my hell yes raise another banner five five that that eliminates probably our bet yeah oh so congrats thanks what a way to close it out what it was but yeah there's like yeah who went out with a home run in their last at bat derrick jeter jeter hit a walk-off single his last home yeah roberto clemente got the 3 000 before oh carter good thing i'm not going up in a plane tomorrow yeah congrats pft thank you so the russians have been training beluga whales to be spies in nato waters and with all these recent orca attacks are the russians radicalizing or putting it out.
There's been no orca attacks. There has been.
They've been attacking ships off of Spain. Something to think about.
Yeah. They've been attacking boats.
Yeah. They've been attacking ships off of Spain.
Yeah. Any deaths? Read the news, Hank.
Dude, I'm just saying. The orcas haven't been acting like that before.
Just something to think about. Put it in your pipe.
Everyone have a good long weekend. We'll see on Tuesday.
Tuesday. There should be a team named the Killer Whales or the orcas haven't been acting like that before just something to think about put it in your pipe everyone have a good long weekend we'll see you on tuesday there should be a team

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