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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we have a twofer for the people. We have our good friend, longtime friend, Brooks Kepka, back on the pod before the PGA Championship.

Speaker 1 We also have our colleague, Daniel Rappaport, on the pod to talk about the PGA Championship, give us some bets, tell us how the course is looking.

Speaker 1 We're going to talk Lakers' nugs, game one, phenomenal game.

Speaker 1 The Victor Wemban Yama lottery has been decided.

Speaker 1 Doc Rivers was fired. Hot seat, cool thrown.
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Speaker 1 Welcome to Part of My Take. Today is Wednesday, May

Speaker 1 17th,

Speaker 1 and Nicola Jokic

Speaker 1 is a fucking monster. Monster, monster, monster.
Nuggets take game one.

Speaker 1 What a game. PFT, Jokic, baby.
Jokic. Jokic.

Speaker 6 Jokic is a beast. And on Taco Tuesday, no less, snatched it right out of LeBron James.

Speaker 6 It was the altitude won that game in the first quarter.

Speaker 6 At the end of the first quarter, when the Nugs were up 12 points before the Lakers got their second win, all they had to do was just kind of keep them at bay for a while.

Speaker 6 And they, I mean, credit to the Lakers because they played a pretty good game. Both teams

Speaker 6 offensively played really well. The Nugs had like seven baskets.
I think there were six or seven shots that went in, which were like no, no, no, no, no, yes shots that had no business going in.

Speaker 6 They got a lot of lucky shots from the outside, but they also, at the same time, they got lucky a lot, but they also played really, really well.

Speaker 6 And so there was no way that the Nuggets could afford to lose that game after playing that well and getting so many good breaks. That was a must-win game after the first quarter.

Speaker 1 It was a must-win game

Speaker 1 because Jokic, I think with like

Speaker 1 maybe nine minutes into the first quarter, he already had had his double-double. He ended up with a triple-double, 34 points, 21 rebounds, and 14 assists.
And

Speaker 1 so there's two ways to look at it. One, Nuggets, up 1-0, played great.
Everyone was making shots.

Speaker 1 KCP got caught fire for a while there. Jamal Murray was hot for a while there.
Like, everything was clicking for the Nuggets. Then the other side to look at is...

Speaker 1 Anthony Davis just had the quietest 40-point night I think I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 Like I was, when I looked at the box score when it was like midway through the fourth and he hit that three, and I was like, wait, he's about to have 40? Because it didn't feel like that.

Speaker 1 Because Jokic was that,

Speaker 1 Jokic was that dominant to start the game, and the Nuggets had so much momentum. And

Speaker 1 the fact that the Lakers had a chance to potentially tie it with like 20 seconds left has to get you a little nervous if you're a Nuggets fan because the Lakers were down 20 for stretches of this game.

Speaker 1 and the they came all the way back. They almost stole it.

Speaker 1 Makes me a little nervous because that feels like it feels like it's going to be a great series and like Jokic is going to have to do this every night and he's going to have to have his supporting cast do this every night.

Speaker 1 And yes, I would say like, I mean, when you're looking at this game, the Nuggets completely dominated the boards. I think they had 17 more rebounds, but the Lakers are going to be there.

Speaker 1 Like they're just, Austin Reeves is

Speaker 1 a stone-cold killer. Can we say that now? He had like 11 points in the fourth quarter.
He was hitting everything.

Speaker 6 Yeah, he does look like he could be an extra on Ozark, too. Yeah.
The dude is awesome.

Speaker 1 He has a boat.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's got a boat, and he gets the kids in trouble. And then they find out, like, oh, shit, now they're in real trouble because they have heroin in that boat.

Speaker 6 Yeah. Yeah.
A kid from our, he's from Arkansas, right? So a kid from Arkansas would feel right at home in an arena named after Mason Jars. So Austin Reeves is legitimate.

Speaker 6 Like, he is a legitimate threat. I think we can stop.
He's a new deli. He might be better.

Speaker 6 Old Deli offensively. I haven't seen him die trying to defend Steph Curry yet, but yeah,

Speaker 6 he's extremely talented. Like, he's going to, somebody's going to pay Austin Reeves a lot of money at some point, and it's going to be awesome.

Speaker 1 He's Hillbilly Kobe. That's his nickname.
Yeah. Which is a great nickname.

Speaker 6 It is a great nickname.

Speaker 6 Watching this game, I kept thinking, I was actually, I was watching it with my mom, and I was telling her, because she likes college basketball more than NBA. I was like, mom, watching this game,

Speaker 6 this is a completely different sport that they're playing than college basketball.

Speaker 6 It was so fun to watch. I think a lot of people out there were saying that it's one of the best NBA games of all time, right? I think our senior business correspondent had something to say about that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Darren Revell, not a prisoner of the moment, tweeted directly after the game. It was maybe like five minutes after the game.

Speaker 1 People will dismiss it because it's not an NBA Finals game, so the stakes weren't as high. But what you just watched was one of the greatest games ever played.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 One of the greatest games ever played.

Speaker 6 He didn't specify sport either. He just went like games of all games ever played.
That's the best.

Speaker 6 It was a very good game, and I'm looking forward to seeing, I think, yeah, five more of these very good games. I still think Nuggets and six.
If Jokic can dominate, like he dominated tonight.

Speaker 6 And I actually don't see a reason why he wouldn't be able to.

Speaker 6 As insane as his game was tonight that's kind of what jokic has been doing these playoffs granted he hasn't had 34 points yet in a triple double but he's been taking over games and just dominating whether it's his passing his rebounding or his shooting or tonight his outside shooting um he had that one at the end of the third quarter where anthony davis just starts smiling afterwards and you know that you have him beat at that point yeah yeah and listen I do think the Lakers, like, I don't know what, whose line is it anyway, what their line will be on

Speaker 1 Thursday night. I think the Lakers might win game two because it did feel also like in the fourth quarter, it felt like they figured a little something out.
Like Anthony Davis was playing off.

Speaker 1 Gordon was disrupting everything. Like you could tell the nuggets got a little tight

Speaker 1 going into the paint. He was blocking every shot.
He was like, you know, if not blocking a shot, making everyone think twice and make that extra pass.

Speaker 1 So I just think it's going to be a long series. I think it's going to be a great series, a long series.

Speaker 1 I'm scared of, I'm scared about the Lakers. This felt like, what is Max showing us? What is Max showing us?

Speaker 6 Use your words.

Speaker 1 It was the spread.

Speaker 1 Oh, what's the spread? Why don't you just say it? Well, I want to interrupt what you were saying, but

Speaker 1 I thought you could see it.

Speaker 1 Lakers might be a

Speaker 1 might be game of the month. That's, I mean, it does feel like the Lakers have done this in the Memphis round and the Warriors round, where it's like they lose one, then they have that

Speaker 1 like that extra effort to win one. Or when they come off a big win, they'll kind of like walk around and be like, oh, we don't need this one.
Like, they need this one, game two. So

Speaker 1 I don't know. It's gonna be a great series.
This was this was an awesome game one. I'm so excited for this series.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it's gonna be great. I don't think LeBron played great tonight.
He had that weird shot at the end,

Speaker 6 wasn't great from the outside, and he did give up. We should also, we should mention that

Speaker 6 when they had a chance,

Speaker 6 were they trying to tie the game? I think they were down three or no, they were down five, I think, and they missed, they, they had a turnover.

Speaker 6 Low, it was when LeBron got the ball in the paint and went between his legs, lost the ball.

Speaker 1 Jamal Murray,

Speaker 1 great, yeah, great defense. Great defense.

Speaker 6 And then LeBron just kind of stood there and they let like seven seconds tick off the clock.

Speaker 6 But we should, by law, as a sports podcast, say that LeBron James needs to hustle more at the end of the second quarter.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. Yeah, Jokic at the eight-minute mark of the first quarter had eight points, 10 rebounds, four assists.
That's a full game for some guys. Yeah.
It's more than a full game.

Speaker 6 He was just purely dominant tonight. Yeah.
And I mean, the rest of the, everybody played well tonight. I feel like nobody had a bad game tonight.

Speaker 1 Yeah. No.
Well, actually, the only one who I would say is D'Angelo Russell, who had moments where it's like, he has a little bit in him where he's like, watch out. It's D-Lo time.

Speaker 1 And I'm going to do this. And he was missing shots.

Speaker 1 And it's like, dude, you have to like the way this Lakers team is built and why they are so good and why I'm so scared of them is they have a ton of guys who can step up.

Speaker 1 And you had Rui Step Step Rui Hachamura step up. You had Austin Reeve step up.
You just had D'Lo kind of be like

Speaker 1 try to be the hero for a little bit there and wasn't shooting well. And that put him in a hole.

Speaker 6 And didn't D'Angelo Russell say earlier this year, like after he, after he left the T-Wolves, right? He said, like, finally, I've got the green light.

Speaker 6 I get to play without without the restrictor plate on me. Yeah.
And so this is what you get sometimes with D'Angelo Russell when he doesn't have the restrictor plate on him.

Speaker 1 Yes, exactly.

Speaker 1 For load management purposes, I'm sure there'll be a lot of people talking about Anthony Davis playing 42 minutes in high altitude. Will he even be able to play game two?

Speaker 6 I would sit him.

Speaker 1 I would probably sit him too.

Speaker 6 I would sit him and LeBron, regroup, bring it back to LA, get it down to C-level, and then see if he can rattle off two games at home. You know,

Speaker 6 the series doesn't start until a road team wins a game.

Speaker 1 Yes. By the way, I'm wearing the sports hat.
It's in the Barstool Sports store right now.

Speaker 1 If you do not have a team in the playoffs anymore, it's the best hat to wear because you're just, like, I was just sitting there. I had my bets, but I was just rooting for sports, and I love sports.

Speaker 1 And it was like one of those games, like, shit, this was awesome.

Speaker 6 And now we're at this point of the playoffs where it's kind of nice being able to sit back and watch one singular game and like really get yourself into it you know what i mean just like sit there and just soak in that game experience the commercial breaks take a breath yeah yeah it's it's it's not bad i i i do like the conference final week that's uh it's it's a much needed break yes um okay before we talk wembinana and we have to talk wembinana and the spurs and we also have to talk a little doc river hey it's pft here reminding you that boars head makes game day entertaining elevated and effortless whether you order catering platters ahead from your local local Boarshead retailer, or you create your own spread at home with Boarshead premium deli meats and cheeses, you are sure to impress your guests.

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Speaker 1 Okay, lottery. Victor Wembenyama.

Speaker 1 Victor, I add an extra N at the end. Victor Wemben Yama.

Speaker 6 Wemben Yama.

Speaker 1 Victor Wemben Yama is going to be a San Antonio Spur,

Speaker 1 which

Speaker 1 can you be mad? My big question coming out of this, can you be mad at the Spurs? They have, this is their third number one pick ever. They went David Robinson, Tim Duncan.

Speaker 1 Now they're getting Victor Wembenyama.

Speaker 1 They have five five titles in the last, whatever, 25 years.

Speaker 1 But I still can't be mad at the Spurs because I've been to San Antonio, nice town, but like good for San Antonio. Good for the Spurs fans.
I'm not mad.

Speaker 1 And Popovich, like, if you want a young player to not have his career go sideways with bad coaching and a dysfunctional franchise, there's no better place than San Antonio for him to land.

Speaker 6 Yeah, you can be mad. You can be mad at anybody if it makes you feel better.
But I think in the middle of the day, but

Speaker 1 the middle of the morning, yeah, well,

Speaker 6 if you compete, if you're in the West and you have to compete against the Spurs, at this point, you're just like, come on, really? Like, again? And I get that. I understand that sentiment.

Speaker 6 But as a fan of sports, Big Cat, as a fan of the league in general,

Speaker 6 I think we can agree that him going to San Antonio is like... the perfect culture fit.

Speaker 6 We called it with Kirk Goldsbury that Pop would be the best place for him to land with the Spurs history, not just with big men, but also at the international level and guys like Genoi, Parker, Boris Diao, who, by the way, Boris Diao is the owner of the French team

Speaker 6 that Wimbinyama plays for. So a little NBA rigged.
Now, I also, I read one tweet that said that.

Speaker 6 So I might be wrong on it, but it looked like a solid tweet. So I'm just going to repeat it verbatim.
I think Diao owns the team that Wimbinyamna was on, and then now he's over over on the Spurs.

Speaker 6 So if you're putting on your NBA rigged hat, which I'm going to allow everybody to do because it's fun to say, there could be something to that.

Speaker 6 But I think like from just a development standpoint, it's good. It's good for San Antonio.
And San Antonio is low-key, a big market.

Speaker 6 They always refer to it as being a small market team. Fuckload of people live in San Antonio.
Yeah. And big people, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah. They eat a lot of people.
Big people. Yeah.
What was Charles Barkley? The Churros?

Speaker 6 Big women.

Speaker 1 Yeah, big women in the Churros.

Speaker 1 so yeah, so I can't be mad at the Spurs. I just couldn't muster it up.
I don't really know what team I would have been mad at, but the Spurs are not it.

Speaker 1 Uh, what I did do, though, instantly, because I stupidly was like all day thinking, you know, NBA rigged, they're going to figure out a way, the Bulls are going to have a miracle.

Speaker 1 So, when it didn't happen, and it was, it was over very quickly, um, I did just go straight into like he's probably not even that good. They showed, they showed before

Speaker 1 he had a game today, and he went, I think he had 22 and 8 in the French league. Come on.

Speaker 1 Jokic just had 34 and 21 and 14. So I might be on Victor Wembanyama is too big,

Speaker 1 too skinny. And also, Rudy Gobert would be his

Speaker 1 Frenchman.

Speaker 1 And so maybe what's the best dog he can have in him? A French poodle? I don't know. These questions that I'm asking.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I would,

Speaker 6 if anything, the spin zone you could go with is he's already peaked. Yeah.
And he's done progressing at this point. So, yeah, you've already seen what he's going to give you.

Speaker 6 Whereas other players like Jokic weren't very good when they were drafted. There was a lot of room to grow.
With Wimba Nimama,

Speaker 6 he's already seen everything that you're going to get from him. But in reality, he's...
like 7-5. Did you see the picture of him that they showed?

Speaker 6 It was, they had a video feed of his lottery draft party. And you know that you're a fucking baller if they've got cameras on you.

Speaker 6 If they fly Brian Windhorse overseas to hang out with you at the draft lottery party, you've got it made at that point.

Speaker 1 But that's gonna be an interview, and the mic didn't even work. Poor Wendy, he's the hardest working guy in fucking business,

Speaker 1 and he is so strong, and the mic didn't even work.

Speaker 6 Does he parlay La Francais?

Speaker 1 I don't know if he parlays La Francais, but he's listening if Wendy's got your back right away, that means like that's a good thing. Like Wendy going out there actually reverses everything.

Speaker 1 And I'll be fully transparent.

Speaker 1 My thoughts that he is not going to be pan out and that, you know, he's too skinny and he's too French, all these things. This is just like the bitter, I was spending all day.

Speaker 1 fantasizing about having him on the bulls. And then when he's not, it's like immediately try to shield yourself from any type of hurt.
It's what guys do. You know, like, oh, you can't hurt me.

Speaker 1 I'll hurt you. So that's all those thoughts.
I actually probably wound up rooting for him, liking him, hoping he does really well.

Speaker 1 But right now, I'm going to just hurt him and not let him hurt me first.

Speaker 6 I wanted him on the Wizards. Absolutely.
Like, that's a guy that you can actually point to and say, okay, well, we're going to be good for the next 10 years if we manage this right.

Speaker 6 But I do like the spend zone of being just saying right off the bat, he might be too French.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's too French.

Speaker 6 If he got matched up against Dirk, Dirk would just dominate him in the first quarter of the game.

Speaker 6 Right over him go right over him right over him and then he'd just lay down and then expect his american teammates to pick him up and carry him to a championship yeah but maybe one can maybe andrew one canadian maybe andrew wiggins can helps out yeah and then they'd have to do it again 20 years later at the end of his career when they drafted a good strong strapping american young boy but yeah uh he's the pig the video feed that they had of him when he was standing up in that room was laugh out loud funny because he's just walking around the room and his head is bumping against the ceiling

Speaker 6 That also might be a French thing. They might just have low ceilings because they're smaller people in France.

Speaker 1 Well, I actually have heard reports that he's like lying about, he's doing the Kevin Durant. He's lying about his height in the reverse way, where he's like, no, no, no, he's only 7.4.

Speaker 1 But people are like, he might be 7.5, 7.6.

Speaker 1 He's going to keep growing a little bit more. I just know there's 13 other teams that were in the lottery tonight, and I'm speaking to those fans specifically.

Speaker 1 It's okay to just get off a couple takes being like, that's a bust.

Speaker 1 And we know that

Speaker 1 all 13 franchises that didn't get him, we know deep down we would have done anything to get him, but use this time to shield yourself and be like, didn't even fucking want him.

Speaker 1 I want a guy who played in college basketball. Okay.
Yeah. I want a high-character guy like Brandon Miller.
Come on. I don't want Victor Wembinyama.
So,

Speaker 1 and I'm specifically speaking to Pistons fans who got fucked. So, Pistons fans, you had the equal chance for the number one pick, and you ended up with the fifth pick.

Speaker 1 And it was like to have that happen in this draft where you don't even make the final four, brutal, absolutely brutal.

Speaker 6 So, so this fun little nugget came out after the draft from Ben Goliver. I thought this was unnecessary for him to put out there.
It was kind of mean.

Speaker 6 He said the San Antonio Spurs won the NBA draft lottery and the right to select Victor Wimbinyama with a ping-pong ball combo 14-5-8-2.

Speaker 6 After the first three numbers were picked, the Washington Wizards had six of the possible 11 remaining numbers and barely missed. I don't need to know that.

Speaker 6 Keep that to yourself.

Speaker 6 That's some behind-the-scenes Price Waterhouse Cooper analytical shit.

Speaker 6 Yeah, that the accounting, one of the big three or whatever accounting firms,

Speaker 6 you keep that information in-house. And that felt like

Speaker 6 it was personal and unnecessary, Bing Goliver. Keep that shit to yourself.

Speaker 1 How do they pick that one random guy from Ernst ⁇ Young? Because you know, like he then just litters his, his

Speaker 1 corner office with just pictures of him at the draft lottery. Like do they, do they get to, do they do a draft lottery at Ernst ⁇ Young to decide who gets to go?

Speaker 1 Because that is the peak of being an accountant, right?

Speaker 6 That's why you get into numbers. That's why you study math in high school.

Speaker 1 Do it to someday get to walk out and not even meet the commissioner, but just walk out with the cards and place it on the table. And then and you have your little name on ESPN.
And that's the peak.

Speaker 1 That's it for you.

Speaker 6 Yeah. You're like, I'm the sports accountant.
I'm a numbers guy, but I'm the cool numbers guy.

Speaker 1 And really, I didn't use any accounting in this.

Speaker 1 They just basically needed someone people trust so that they can say like, oh, well, he handled it, not us.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 6 I'm a little bit salty with that stat coming out, but whatever.

Speaker 1 We move on.

Speaker 6 Spin zone, at least I don't have to care about the wizards for for another 10 years. So that's good.
That's a blessing.

Speaker 1 That is PFT. That's like when I do the 50-50 and I get to like the fourth number.
And I'm like, fuck.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 I never get to like the fourth or fifth number. And then the rare time you do, and you're like, well, why did you even do that? That was such a tease.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 6 In the NBA, they have it set up a little bit differently from hockey, where it's more likely that a team that doesn't finish with the worst record or the second worst record has a much better shot at it when you take everything into account.

Speaker 6 But, I mean, congrats to San Antonio. Good job.
It's been, you know, being a San Antonio Spurs fan, it's not easy, as Hank would say for Boston sports fandom.

Speaker 1 They also, the last thing about the lottery, I don't understand why the NBA, they're adding a mid-season tournament and all these play-in games. If you made a lottery tournament, people would watch.

Speaker 1 Like, that would be fascinating to watch, where it's the 14 teams, or maybe you say it's the last six teams or whatever.

Speaker 1 But if they had to play and the winner of that gets to go, gets the number one pick, it would be great.

Speaker 1 Like, if you want more ratings, you want more fans, fuck, I'd be rooting my ass off if the Bulls were in the finals of the losers bracket. Like, that would be so much fun.

Speaker 6 Unless you had a team that had like a pretty decent center on it, and then he would tank the championship game so that they wouldn't draft Wimpinyama.

Speaker 1 Yeah, true.

Speaker 1 All right, last thing before we kick it to ourselves for Hot Seat, Cool Throne, and Brooks Kepka, Daniel Rappaport, and Guys on Chicks,

Speaker 1 Doc Rivers fired. So, Doc Rivers fired.

Speaker 1 He had to be fired. I mean, Monty Williams also got fired.
It's one of those things in sports, like

Speaker 1 you can't trade Embiid.

Speaker 1 You can't trade Kevin Durant and Devin Booker. So, you need a fall guy.

Speaker 1 He probably should have been fired, but it also is like one of those rare cases where Doc Rivers loves to blow it in big moments. But that loss to me was squarely on James Harden and Joel Embiid.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I don't know if getting rid of Doc is going to solve everything, but it's a start. They had to do it.
I saw a stat that said the,

Speaker 6 was it the three winningest regular season coaches in the last three years have all been fired?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Yeah. Crazy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because, I mean, think about it. I think.

Speaker 1 I think Nick Nurse won coach of the year a few years ago. I know Monty Williams might have won it two years in a row, and they both got fired.
I don't know if Bud won Coach of the Year. What, Jake?

Speaker 8 Doc Rivers, Nick Nurse, Monty Williams, and Mike Bundholzer have six NBA Coach of the Year awards between them, all dismissed this offseason. Eric Spolcho's not one from Five Reads Sports Network.

Speaker 1 Damn, so Bud did win one. So, yeah, that's crazy.
And they all are gone. Max, do you want to?

Speaker 1 I just want Max to talk real quick, like 30 seconds, just so you guys can see his camera view of his soul patch. Go ahead, Max.
Doc, out. Thoughts?

Speaker 6 Doc, out.

Speaker 6 Fine.

Speaker 1 He looks like a frog.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I know. I'm having some issues with my computer right now.
I had to switch to my phone.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I guess it's a good day for Philly. Who really cares? I mean, a lot of people in Philly are really happy about it, but I don't really think it makes any of a difference.

Speaker 6 I think it makes a small difference, right? You'd rather, if you're going to try to rebuild this thing, you don't want Doc to be the guy.

Speaker 5 Yeah, no.

Speaker 9 It's more of like

Speaker 1 you would be angry if they brought him back but him leaving doesn't make you happy if if that makes sense just just the absence of anger yeah yes well yeah that's that's basically my entire existence it's it's it's just it it's simply like you have to go through the process of someone has to be accountable and you can't it can't be joel bede just because of how contracts work you know what i mean it's the it's the exact same as money williams i don't think monty williams is a bad coach but you're like we have to change something up well you're not going to change devin Booker and Kevin Durant.

Speaker 1 So, Monty William, there's the door.

Speaker 6 At some point over the years, should Doc Rivers have gotten a vocal coach? Like, we see this happening with Morgan Wallen and a lot of singers.

Speaker 6 Doc Rivers has been perpetually hoarse for it feels like the last 15 years. I don't know how effective as a coach you can be if you never actually have a speaking voice.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Best coaches who never have their voice. I mean, Coach O won a national title.

Speaker 6 That's true. But he's still got that.

Speaker 6 He can yell at you.

Speaker 6 That voice resonates.

Speaker 6 Michael McDonald.

Speaker 6 What's his name?

Speaker 5 Michael Malone.

Speaker 6 Michael Malone never has a voice either.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hank, do you want to tell us quickly what you're thinking before game one? You feel super confident. Super confident.

Speaker 1 No, I feel confident.

Speaker 5 I mean, they came out with a stat.

Speaker 5 That was like ESPN, bullshit, full shit. Fuck ESPN.
But they were, it was like 97% Celtics had a change.

Speaker 5 Like that was the percentage that they were going to win the series, which I thought was a little, a little bit egregious, but I feel

Speaker 1 excited.

Speaker 1 97% chance. So, if you, this would be the biggest upset ever.

Speaker 5 According to them, I mean, I feel like it's a little bit closer than that, probably like 60-40. But

Speaker 6 I think if you looked at the Bruins' first-round odds, it would probably be a little bit higher than 97%.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I mean, listen, I know what it's like to be number one in the lose, and I'm looking at Cake Marsh, and I know what's on the other side there. So, I know know how formidable of a foe that is.

Speaker 1 I also would like to just, since we have Brooks on this show and, you know,

Speaker 1 we're getting close to Blake of the Year, I'd like to say I'm rooting for my good personal friend, Blake Griffin. I got a little bit of a lashing on text last night.

Speaker 1 He

Speaker 1 threw 99 in my head and was like,

Speaker 1 where are you going now with your buddy B-Ball Paul? So

Speaker 1 I'm shifting. It's Blake Griffin time.
Noted.

Speaker 1 Blake Griffin has been a loyal, loyal guy for this show and one of our all-time guests. So

Speaker 1 sometimes you just need to be corrected in life. And I got corrected.
Hank was witness to it.

Speaker 5 Yes. Yeah.
I wanted to ask him how his back was, but I didn't want to press it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I have one last thing that just came across Twitter. Breaking Moose.
Breaking Moose.

Speaker 1 Breaking moves,

Speaker 1 Magic Johnson has

Speaker 1 weighed in on game one.

Speaker 1 He has said the Lakers need to regroup and clean up some things for game two.

Speaker 1 That's it.

Speaker 5 I mean, PG, the fact that that's your owner now.

Speaker 6 That's my owner. Yeah, he's right.

Speaker 6 I mean, spot the lie. They need to regroup and then they need to find some things.

Speaker 1 Maybe in the basket.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Clean up some things. There you go.
Okay. Yeah.
I mean, spot the lie. That's a guy that knows ball.

Speaker 5 When he's coming that early, when he's coming this recently off of game two, you know he's fired up. Usually it's like a full 12 hours to 24

Speaker 5 after the game ends.

Speaker 6 I can't wait for Magic Johnson tweets after Commanders games because he is just a perpetually positive guy.

Speaker 6 And finding positive things to say about the Redskins football team commanders has been very tough to do for the last 30 years. I can't wait for those.
Those are going to be must-watch.

Speaker 1 All right, let's kick it to ourselves. We got a lot of great show coming up, and Brooks is back.
Rejoice, Brooks is back.

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Speaker 1 Okay, hot seat cool thrown. Hank.

Speaker 5 Hot seat, I have a couple. Yeah.
First one is the NHL.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 5 The conference finals, absolute dud matchups. Absolute dud.

Speaker 5 Disagree.

Speaker 5 It's Dallas

Speaker 5 versus Vegas, Carolina versus Florida. Jake, I mean, you're not even going to be watching.
You say you're just going to be watching.

Speaker 5 No, you're not watching everything.

Speaker 1 Shout out all of our Carolina H-Word fans. I will.
Okay.

Speaker 7 If I'm able to.

Speaker 5 Exactly.

Speaker 6 That Eastern Conference final is a nightmare for Hank, who has an extreme distaste for any sports team that is based around an entire region

Speaker 6 as opposed to a city. I remember you got really upset about the Carolina Panthers at one point, completely forgetting that you root for the New England Patriots.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I think that was satirical, but

Speaker 1 over your head. No, it wasn't.
No, it wasn't. No, it wasn't.
Listen, this podcast gets listened to by a lot of people across America. We try to talk about all sports.

Speaker 1 I think that's one of the things we do well is we talk about every single sport. We're not just one sport-centric.

Speaker 1 So, knowing that we have fans all across America, let's say one thing about each team. I'll start.
We'll go around. Let's start with the Carolina Hurricanes.
I'll say their full name.

Speaker 1 That pig that they have,

Speaker 1 the rally pig or something? Yeah. Fucking cool.
Okay.

Speaker 6 The rookie that got his face caved in by a vetchkin in the playoffs took it like a champ a couple years ago.

Speaker 1 Okay, nice.

Speaker 5 I think they should change their name. It's offensive to people who are affected by

Speaker 6 hurricanes. Or malt liquor.

Speaker 1 Hamilton the pig, by the way. I just looked it up.

Speaker 1 Hamilton the pig.

Speaker 6 It's a good name for a pig. Great name.

Speaker 1 They have a cool logo.

Speaker 1 A hurricane logo? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Now you're just complimenting Miami.

Speaker 6 You're complimenting Weathermen, too. Yeah.

Speaker 7 That's Caroline.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but no, but it's the same logo as the Hurricane.

Speaker 6 No, it's different.

Speaker 1 Miami Hurricanes. No, they have the logo, though.
No, I know.

Speaker 1 They have an alternate logo, don't they? Is it on on a flag? What is the Miami?

Speaker 7 Maybe Sebastian the Ibis you're thinking of?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 The U has

Speaker 1 the iconic. No, I know that.
I know that. I thought they had an alternate logo as well, but maybe not.
Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 This is really good stuff we're doing.

Speaker 1 Billy, Billy, Carolina Hurricanes.

Speaker 11 Don't know much about them, but I like the Golden Knights.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay, well, that's the team that we're talking about.
All right, good job. All right.
Next team, Florida Panthers.

Speaker 1 People forget Ariana Grande, huge Florida Panthers fan, actually got hit by two pucks, I believe. I don't know, maybe it was one when she was

Speaker 1 a little girl. She had season tickets.
All right. Kodak Black.
Kodak.

Speaker 1 You've ruined the easiest thing in the world here.

Speaker 6 Kodak Black was at a Florida Panthers game with a stripper and was basically banging her doggy style during the game in an open-air suite.

Speaker 6 Also,

Speaker 6 Mike Ruiz from Lebatard. Okay.
Good friend of ours.

Speaker 5 Brooks, Brooks hates them, and so do I. Okay.
That clip of him holding up the

Speaker 5 cone. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, Jake.

Speaker 7 Hometown team. It's right next to the Sawgrass Mills Mall where Wanadu City used to be.

Speaker 1 Great sky. Okay.

Speaker 1 Billy?

Speaker 1 Come on, Billy. I already said mine.
No,

Speaker 1 it's out of turn.

Speaker 6 There's no such thing as a Florida Panther.

Speaker 1 True.

Speaker 6 Yeah. So I just took yours.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Dallas Stars.

Speaker 1 Joe Pavelski, Badger. Awesome player.
Also, I kind of rooted for the Dallas Stars for like a second when Patrick Sharp got traded there. I was like, oh, I'll, you know, hope they do well.

Speaker 1 And then I just forgot to do that.

Speaker 6 The Texas Stars, minor league affiliate of the Dallas Stars, they play in Cedar Park, Texas. Used to go to a bunch of their games.
Great arena. Always a good fight there.

Speaker 6 I think they won the Calder Cup one year. So I like their minor league program.

Speaker 1 Okay, good one.

Speaker 5 Tyler Sagan, Bruins champion. I think this is my official pick and team I'll be rooting for.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 7 Their goalie is named Jake.

Speaker 1 Oh, very cool. Very cool.
Very cool. Billy, this is the hardest task in the world for him.

Speaker 11 Dallas is a cool city.

Speaker 1 All right. Nice.
Is it? Sure.

Speaker 1 You ever been there?

Speaker 11 Actually, I was in Arlington.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 6 That's classic Dallas guy out there.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 You're not as disappointing as the Cowboys. This is as far, this is further than the Cowboys have gone in 20

Speaker 1 lot of years.

Speaker 1 20 lot of years. Yeah.
20, a lot of years.

Speaker 1 Okay, Vegas,

Speaker 1 the helmets are very cool. When they wear the gold helmets, that's really cool.
Makes me think of Notre Dame, makes me think of football, makes me happy.

Speaker 6 When they do the old gold, everything and Trinidad James song comes on. That's pretty cool.
Good pregame ceremony, too. Yes, where they do the medieval times on acid thing on the ice.
Love that.

Speaker 5 The Caps want a cup there.

Speaker 1 Okay. Oh, I forgot about that.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 A lot of good memories in that barn.

Speaker 7 Good one. They're having insane success as still a new franchise.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 They're in the mix every year. I don't think.

Speaker 5 Once a new franchise comes, you can't. Yeah, they did.

Speaker 1 They're not the new guy anymore.

Speaker 6 They got cucked by the Kraken.

Speaker 1 We're crackheads. That's right.
All right.

Speaker 7 They're having great success in their first few years. Okay.

Speaker 11 There's a dude on their fourth line with the same last name as me.

Speaker 1 Football. What? Yeah.
It's a weird name for a hockey player.

Speaker 6 That's sick.

Speaker 1 All right. So we said something nice about every team.

Speaker 6 Good for us. Okay.
That's hockey talk.

Speaker 1 Because, you know, people are like, hey, why don't you talk about this team? This next year. Yeah, no, listen, clip this.
Anytime anyone asks us, why don't you talk about this, this team?

Speaker 1 Boom, we just did it. We're hockey.
Do the same for Stanley Cup finals.

Speaker 6 We're fantasy puck boys. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hell yeah.

Speaker 1 But yeah, this is

Speaker 1 not exactly the dream for the NHL. Still will be fun to watch because hockey players are fun to watch, but a little tough.

Speaker 6 You can rig one thing per year. You either rig the playoffs or you rig the draft.
They rigged the draft this year. Good job, NHL.
Now let's maybe think about rigging the playoffs next year. Yes.

Speaker 5 My other hot seat was Aaron Judge. Got caught cheating, stealing signs again.
Yankees back at it again.

Speaker 1 Mm-hmm. Yep.
He was in the the pot.

Speaker 1 He was.

Speaker 6 Jake, did you see his eyes?

Speaker 1 Did you see his quote? Oh, what is his quote? Oh, should we believe him?

Speaker 7 A lot of chirping from our dugout, which I really didn't like in the situation where it's a 6-0 game. I was kind of just trying to see who was chirping in the dugout.

Speaker 1 Oh, just chirping. Just the dugout was chirping.

Speaker 6 Yeah, that's why he's why he glanced just with his eyes and not turning his head.

Speaker 5 Right, Jake? And wouldn't chirping, like, wouldn't saying what pitch is coming with that technically

Speaker 5 qualify as chirping.

Speaker 7 The other assumption from friend of the program-ish, not really, buster only, friend of the office, friend of

Speaker 1 friend of Frank. No, no, no, no, what?

Speaker 1 No, he hates the mat. He's doing the chop.
There is an enemy of all of us. Enemy of all of us.

Speaker 7 There is an assumption on the J's side that their pitchers and catchers were betraying the identity of the forthcoming pitches last night. It's a really advanced way to say maybe tipping pitches.

Speaker 6 Oh, that's another way to say that the dugout was sending signs to Aaron Judge about what pitches were being tipped.

Speaker 1 Wait, but he struck out, so it doesn't matter, right? Nope. No, he had home runs.

Speaker 1 But they weren't very

Speaker 7 far from Aaron Judge, and this is why he was glancing to his right for info.

Speaker 6 The home run didn't go that far, did it? Oh, he crushed it. Oh, and 480 feet.

Speaker 7 Listen, if it comes out he was cheating, I will admit we don't deserve that in baseball.

Speaker 7 Prince Stripe's permanently gone.

Speaker 1 Permanently. But, Jake, I actually disagree with you 100% on that.

Speaker 6 In baseball, if you're not cheating, you're not trying.

Speaker 6 Like, if you're able to get away with it, I actually think if you're communicating to Aaron Judge from the dugout what pitch is coming, if it's being tipped, or as Buster put it, if they're, if they're betraying

Speaker 7 the identity of the forthcoming pitches.

Speaker 6 I love that phrase, betraying the identity of the forthcoming pitch, and your team is communicating that to you without the use of electronics, then it's fine.

Speaker 1 You should be allowed to do it. I actually think also, like, MLB, they should just plan some type of cheating scandal right around now every year.
Because it does get...

Speaker 1 Like, cheating in baseball is, I think, the only sport where it's actually beneficial because it gets people talking about baseball.

Speaker 6 Yeah, usually there's a fight. I think that Rough Net O'Door Joey Bats fight was on roughly this day, like seven years ago.
I love a good springtime brawl.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just get us talking about something else.

Speaker 6 It's either that or a B delay about this time of year.

Speaker 5 Well, the other notable clip was the Sunday night baseball asking the Red Sox

Speaker 5 guy

Speaker 5 on Mother's Day.

Speaker 1 He was like, it's Mother's Day and your mom died when you were a kid. Talk about that.
Yeah. That was quite, quite during a play.

Speaker 6 Yeah. During a play.
Yeah, it was the mic'd up on the field thing.

Speaker 1 He handled it really well, though.

Speaker 6 Yeah. With the announcer?

Speaker 1 No, the player.

Speaker 6 Oh. Yeah.
What do you think, Jake? Carl Ravits, should he have asked that question or not? As a play-by-play guy?

Speaker 7 I think that's like you we watch the draft all the time and you have those features, right?

Speaker 7 Those are pre-produced, but when you're in the middle of a game, that's just the last thing you're probably thinking about.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, it was Mother's Day, so I mean, he had to be topical, I guess. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So he's mic'd up with that guy.

Speaker 6 So, judge, cheater or not a cheater?

Speaker 1 Cheater.

Speaker 11 Wait, if his dugout was telling him what pitch was coming, that's technically cheating.

Speaker 1 It's bending the rules. Yeah.
So if, like, you can't, I mean, that's, you're not supposed to look in, see what, like, the catcher is doing and then relay it to the batter. That's the Astros.

Speaker 11 No, but that's electronic.

Speaker 1 But that.

Speaker 1 They were doing the same thing. They were looking, seeing what was being called by the catcher and then relaying it to the batter.

Speaker 11 But they were like using technology. Right.
That's like having another headset in your helmet in football that communicates to you during the game.

Speaker 6 I think you should be allowed to do that.

Speaker 6 As long as there's no like vibrating watch or a camera that's in center field relaying signals, if you don't bring a battery or electricity into it, I think you should be allowed to do it in baseball.

Speaker 1 I don't think you should be able to do it from the dugout, though. I think anyone, like if you have a guy on second and you can figure out a way to do it, that's fine.

Speaker 6 How about this? I don't think you should be allowed to do it.

Speaker 5 You're the first base coach, third base coach.

Speaker 1 That's fine. But in the dugout, it's like, Know it.
It's true.

Speaker 6 Yeah, you should be allowed to do it as long as you're not on the Yankees.

Speaker 1 Yeah. How about that?

Speaker 1 Fair?

Speaker 1 Do you have Rick Riley's number? I might.

Speaker 6 Can you text him something?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Can you just text him, A judge receiving improper benefits? I didn't know Harlan Crowe was in the news again. Okay.
And just see if he'll run with that tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 6 I want to ghost right to Rick.

Speaker 1 And then my Cool Throne. We don't have his number.
Fuck.

Speaker 5 Is friend of the program recurring guest, Dwight Howard.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 6 What's he up to?

Speaker 5 He is in Taiwan playing. I don't know if you guys have seen any clips of him playing in the last year.
He drops like 40 a game, shoots as many threes as he wants, absolutely dominates.

Speaker 5 There's some very funny commercial shoots where he's, you know,

Speaker 5 living the life, basically. And he made a video trolling all of the underperformers in the playoffs.

Speaker 5 Jordan Poole, Julius Randall, Ben Simmons, Clay Thompson, Ayton, CP3, and James Harden. Called them all out and is recruiting them to Taiwan.

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 1 Would love that.

Speaker 5 Dwight Howard's living the life. He's back to trolling.
It was a very funny video.

Speaker 5 And honestly, like, he looks like he's having a great time.

Speaker 1 I would imagine.

Speaker 5 He shoots 100 threes. He drops 40 a game.
Probably lives like a king out there. Yeah.
Yeah. And he just gets to go viral, calling everyone out that underperforms in the playoffs.

Speaker 6 I also like how we referred to Taiwan as a country. John Cena, definitely not coming back on the show now.

Speaker 1 Come on, Hank.

Speaker 6 That's China, brother. Way to go, Hank.

Speaker 1 Depending on where you sit. No.

Speaker 6 What? It's not China.

Speaker 6 No, it's taiwan it's a country that's one of the things we stand for on this podcast did i say country no no no no you're you're you're you're good you're on the right side you said taiwan i just said he's playing in taiwan i'm gonna say it was country fact he's playing in taiwan wait so then why'd you bring up the what he said was wrong well no i'm saying i'm saying that he's right but john cena is not going to want to come back on this show because he acknowledged taiwan because you acknowledged taiwan that was john cena's big mistake that he made you remember that if you said thailand that would be a whole different story what was his apology video he started out by going, Nihao, and then he just apologized in Mandarin for calling Taiwan a country.

Speaker 1 But Hank didn't even call it a country.

Speaker 5 I just said he's playing in Taiwan.

Speaker 6 Well,

Speaker 6 if you'd been referring to it as part of China, you would have said Taipei.

Speaker 6 Okay. So good job.

Speaker 5 Got it.

Speaker 6 Thank you. Appreciate it, Hank.

Speaker 1 PFT?

Speaker 5 World-renowned geopolitic politicizer.

Speaker 6 Politicist. Yep, that's you.

Speaker 6 My hot seat is Georgia Academics.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I have this as well.

Speaker 6 Because Stetson Bennett,

Speaker 6 somebody did some research on him and looked up the graduation at Georgia that just happened last year.

Speaker 6 His name was not on the roll. He doesn't have a degree from Georgia.
So he spent, what, seven years?

Speaker 6 Seven years. Seven years at the University of Georgia.

Speaker 1 Some at a community college as well, or a Juco as well. Yeah.
And then came back.

Speaker 6 Yep. Got the pre-recs taken care of that way.

Speaker 1 If he didn't, I saw someone wrote it, I think it might have been six and some change, but if he didn't,

Speaker 1 his first two years of college, if he didn't accumulate accumulate any credits, he still had a full like four and a half years to get his degree.

Speaker 6 Yeah, this is Van Wilder type stuff. Yeah.
Like legendary. Nobody had a better college experience besides the whole arrest thing than Stetson Bennett did.
Yes. He had a fantastic time at Georgia.

Speaker 1 Also, I didn't know, I learned this. Fun fact, Newman from Seinfeld went to Georgia, also didn't get a degree.

Speaker 6 How many years?

Speaker 1 Like a year, maybe. Oh, okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 That would be good. There you go.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Didn't they call Stetson Bennett the mailman, too? Was that a nickname that he had for a while?

Speaker 6 I don't know. Why would they call him the mailman? He's just delivering.
Because he looked like a mailman. Yeah, and he's delivering, like, he doesn't really have to do much.
The paperboy, just

Speaker 1 showing the newspaper. That is his nickname.
It is his nickname. Why is it his nickname? Looking.
Okay.

Speaker 6 Wow, that's freaky. Yeah.
My cool throne is U.S. soccer.
Yeah. U.S.
men's national team. Because it's coming home.
We just got a commit. From, I'm going to try to say this name correct.

Speaker 6 For Lauren Balogan. Falorin Balogun.
He's on the Arsenal. He's on the Arsenals, and he's a striker, and we don't have a striker.

Speaker 6 He was trying to figure out if he was going to play for the British, the English national team, or the American national team. He chose to play for the U.S.
men's national team. So, once again,

Speaker 6 he probably saw that game at the World Cup. Yeah.
And he was like, oh, the U.S. won the shit out of that draw.
I want to play for some winners.

Speaker 6 So we got a big defection, biggest defection since Prince Harry came over to the United States a couple years ago. We got for Lauren Balugan, and he rounds out the golden generation of U.S.

Speaker 1 soccer. I love that he just did this like it was a 17-year-old just as your watch talking.

Speaker 6 He's got series talking to me.

Speaker 1 I love that he did this like a 17-year-old deciding what college to go to. Yeah.
But it's a country.

Speaker 6 Yeah, we got some NIL money. It was between us, England, and Nigeria.
So I think he made the right choice. So it's coming home 2026.

Speaker 1 Hell yes. Way to go, dude.

Speaker 6 Feels good. What do you got? Got it.

Speaker 7 So he wore a mailman hat to recruiting showcases around the country as a way to stand out.

Speaker 1 Stephen Bennett. That's weird.

Speaker 6 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's very weird.

Speaker 7 His buddy's father is the mayor of a small town around here, and he's always getting cool things. I saw the hat one day and asked if I could wear it.
I first wore it to a camp in about Austa, Georgia.

Speaker 7 I'm not real big or striking physically, but I wanted to have something people would remember me by.

Speaker 6 Okay, so that's like another Seinfeld episode where George tried to get everybody to call him T-Bone and started eating steaks everywhere.

Speaker 6 He wore that hat specifically so people would start calling him the mailman. I don't think we can give him that nickname anymore.
I know you have to take it. You know what? Didn't graduate.

Speaker 6 He's the fail man. Oh,

Speaker 6 burn. How about that? You're the fail man, Stetson.

Speaker 1 Stetson. You got two titles.
Wait, he got drafted, what, the fourth round? Fourth or fifth? He's in the Rams.

Speaker 6 Yeah. He's in the Ramlee.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so he'll be fine. Yeah, he'll be good.
He'll be great.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 So my hot seat was also Stetson Bennett. I'll pivot.
Well, actually, no, because we already talked about Doc Rivers getting fired and Jay Wright possibly being the Sixers head coach.

Speaker 1 So I'll just go right to my cool throne. My cool throne is Martha Stewart, who's on the cover of Sports Illustrated Swimsuit.
And

Speaker 1 would she be the definition of a baddie?

Speaker 6 She is.

Speaker 1 She's a baddie. She's done time.

Speaker 6 She's a bad grandma.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 She's hot. She looks good.

Speaker 1 Go ahead, put it on there.

Speaker 6 She's hot. Listen, Martha Stewart is probably the hottest 81-year-old in the world.

Speaker 1 And I feel no problem saying she's hot because she's on the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition. She is on there being like, look how hot I am.

Speaker 6 She wants me to call her hot.

Speaker 1 Yeah, she's like, I am an older woman who is hot.

Speaker 6 What kind of, which did she make her own swimsuit? That would have been cool if she had like

Speaker 1 croqueted. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Arts and crafted it. It's made out of her grandmother's quilt.
What is it? Crochet? Crochet. Crochet.

Speaker 1 I like croquet better, though. Croquet, crochet.
Who cares?

Speaker 6 She looks good, though. Listen,

Speaker 6 she is.

Speaker 6 She does it for me.

Speaker 1 I'd suck a fart out of her ass.

Speaker 6 Yeah,

Speaker 6 I'd drink her bathwater.

Speaker 1 Okay, Billy, you're a bad person.

Speaker 1 I would suck a fart out of Martha Stewart's ass.

Speaker 6 I would drink Martha Stewart's bathwater. I bet you she's got like a luxury giant claw-foot tub in a well-lit room.

Speaker 1 Some scones next to it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 She probably has bathtub scones.

Speaker 6 Yeah. Martha, come on the show.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Literally.

Speaker 6 Please. Come on.
Come on. Come on this show.
And give me that ass.

Speaker 1 I'll suck that fart right out.

Speaker 1 You know what? I'll suck it out and spit it right in PFT's mouth.

Speaker 6 Birthday show.

Speaker 6 That's the birthday show. They record at midnight.
Fuck yeah. Take her to Paris, show the Eiffel Tower, and then suck a fart out and pass it.
Suck and blow. Yeah.

Speaker 6 I'm sorry, Martha. That was.

Speaker 1 No, I think that was exactly what she. I mean, she, look, she's hot.
Yeah. What do you want to say?

Speaker 6 She's fucking hot. I am but a man.

Speaker 6 At the end of the day, a man with a boner.

Speaker 1 She's 81. Do you think she gets still 69?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 6 On top and bottom. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Standing 69? that might be a hip. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hip issue. But we'll give it a try, Martha.
Okay, Billy. Would you fuck Martha Stewart, Billy?

Speaker 11 So my hot seat is.

Speaker 11 My hot seat's humanity.

Speaker 6 About a year ago,

Speaker 1 JP Morgan Chase started using Martha Stewart's daughter is 57 years old. Yeah, and

Speaker 6 Martha Stewart's way hotter than her daughter.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Her daughter's too old for me, but Martha Stewart, she's just right.

Speaker 11 Martha Stewart kind of looks like Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 A little bit.

Speaker 6 No, you want to fuck her. Yeah.
In other words.

Speaker 1 Now you do want to.

Speaker 6 That's like... Question answered.
Okay, so about you.

Speaker 1 He was so straightie.

Speaker 11 Started using this workforce activity data utility software. And now a year later, a manager for JP Morgan Chase came out on Reddit and actually said what this software was doing.

Speaker 11 And apparently it was using AI technology to track workers' eyeballs,

Speaker 11 physical attitude, and basically take all these invasive data points to ensure that their workers are like working 100% all the time. If they're having a bad day, and then had a

Speaker 11 basically, it ranked all of their workers on how hard they were working. It's kind of, it's kind of crazy because then during the work from home era, they were tapping their microphones and video

Speaker 11 cameras through like a third-party software that they thought was just like you know, a one-login type thing. And, you know, basically, this person at JP Morgan wrote on Reddit.

Speaker 11 JP Morgan got taken down off Reddit. We don't know if this is actually entirely true of what all this guy said, but basically, he said that I was waiting for that.

Speaker 1 So, this is, yeah, this is Billy read something on Reddit. We don't know if it's true.
No, but no, no, he read something on Reddit about something that got taken down on Reddit.

Speaker 5 Got it.

Speaker 11 Basically, they're saying that if this stuff's like pretty insane, how much data points it's collecting, and it's by the

Speaker 1 same

Speaker 6 JP Morgan Chase.

Speaker 1 So I'm looking for news, JP Morgan.

Speaker 1 I don't think anyone's written it.

Speaker 5 I blogged about it.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 11 No, but it's out there. But some of the stuff is...

Speaker 1 It's out there. Is it on there? People have written about it.
It's on Twitter. Okay.
Okay. There we go.
And Telegram. Yep.

Speaker 11 Yeah, so basically you can detect if you have like a gaming system on your camera or like illicit drugs in your background while you're like...

Speaker 5 Did the blog get posted?

Speaker 11 It's about to be posted.

Speaker 6 No, no. So it's not out there yet.

Speaker 1 But basically they can look at the camera. But it's not out there.

Speaker 11 And all these guys at JPMorgan Chase randomly been getting fired and they think it's because they're looking into their backgrounds while they're zooming or even while they're working when they don't think their camera's working.

Speaker 6 I would think that if any company out there would not care about how much you're working, it would be a company like JP Morgan Chase where they only care about the bottom line.

Speaker 6 It's like if you don't work hard, but you still bring money in, then who gives a shit, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, this sounds like something that a bunch of people who got fired or pissed off about being fired made up to be like, this is why we got fired.

Speaker 5 Blame AI.

Speaker 1 It's kind of a little crazy. It is a little crazy.
I would love to see if it's true.

Speaker 11 Yeah. Basically, this person who leaked it, it's like been getting taken down off Reddit.
So it's kind of weird that something like that's been getting taken down, even though it

Speaker 11 was so

Speaker 11 open-ended that if what wasn't true, then it wouldn't be getting reported so consistently it sounds like a PR

Speaker 11 watch yeah yeah okay also they were trying to do phishing schemes by trying to offer certain employees different jobs through emails and if they clicked the link that also like was bad for their score you're disloyal they're entrapping them you're disloyal they are looking for jobs on company time yeah you remember when when Dave sent out an email like three years ago being like hey we're opening up Barstall Florida just to see who was going to apply for the Barstall Miami position yeah that was funny that was very good

Speaker 11 Oh, and my cool throne is justice, those two fishing cheaters from a couple years ago. Oh, nice.

Speaker 1 Finally got this. Nice, nice.
Congrats, Billy. Yeah.
I can finally sleep tonight. Yeah, no, I was

Speaker 11 10 days in prison.

Speaker 1 You did bust this case open.

Speaker 11 Yeah, $2,500 fine, but this is a big, they got their both.

Speaker 1 10 days in prison is kind of the perfect amount. Yeah, it's a nice figure.

Speaker 1 Well, to be like, I went to prison?

Speaker 6 It depends on what day. I would love to go to prison the day after the Super Bowl until the Combine.

Speaker 1 But just to be like, oh, yeah, I've done a hard time. Yeah.
10 days.

Speaker 11 18 months probation and also a three-year ban on ever getting a fishing license again.

Speaker 11 That's the max sentence. They can ban them, but you still have to apply for a fishing license.
And it's kind of like

Speaker 11 they're going to basically ban from fishing for life because no state is going to allow them to fish, get a fishing license.

Speaker 1 I kind of like that.

Speaker 6 Never allowed to fish again. I was proud when I saw this news come through because I knew that you were instrumental in getting justice to be served in this case.

Speaker 6 So on behalf of Fish Everywhere, Billy, thank you. On the other hand, you're kind of a narc.

Speaker 11 Well, they got caught.

Speaker 1 Also, the fish were already dead, right? Yeah, but you're no, but they were. No, no, they kind of snitched on them.

Speaker 11 It was their fishing competition

Speaker 11 where you can catch the biggest fish, and then they were stuffing weights in the fish.

Speaker 1 Right, but the fish were already dead, so you didn't actually save any fish's life.

Speaker 11 No, they were, I don't care. Fishing's, they're eating all of them.
Okay. What happened was they were stealing from other fishermen by winning the contest, getting huge boats, tons of prize money.

Speaker 6 But they already got caught doing that at the competition, so they're already in trouble. You just kind of sent them to prison.
Right.

Speaker 11 I also sent George Santos to prison.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 you didn't save any fish.

Speaker 11 I don't care about that part.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 You don't care about the fish?

Speaker 1 No. All right.
All right. Well, I thought you were a wildlife guy.

Speaker 11 I mean, care about sustainable fishing. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.
Well, then, this is walleye fishing. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Okay. Well, thank you, Billy.
Thank you for the service.

Speaker 1 You fucking put those guys in jail.

Speaker 11 Hell yeah. What they did was fucked up.

Speaker 6 What they did is

Speaker 1 any

Speaker 11 sports cheating. And if those are probably one of the worst sports cheating scandals in the past 10 years.

Speaker 1 It is. We got White Twitch.

Speaker 1 Easily. It was

Speaker 1 up there. Puts the Astros to shame.
All right, Jake.

Speaker 7 My hot seat is Matthew Stafford and Clayton Kershaw.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 7 Because there is a new sports duo out there. Oh, yeah.
We grew up together. Jason Tatum and Matthew Kachuck of the Florida Panthers.

Speaker 6 Shut the fuck up.

Speaker 7 Seventh, eighth, and ninth grade together at Shaminade in the St. Louis area.
And now they're both in the final four of their respective sports.

Speaker 1 Wow, that's wild. I'm actually, I didn't have a hot seat.
I'll do my hot seat right now. Jake, you're on the hot seat.

Speaker 6 Why is that?

Speaker 1 Because we have the final four, the same final four as the bubble, and you didn't mention that on one day. That is why I actually saw that stat and was like, Jake, we'll definitely bring you a seat.

Speaker 1 I think it was just like so obvious that I assumed you guys would. I just didn't have it right now.
No, I need the water.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you should never assume that. Yeah, yeah.
So, bubble reel? No,

Speaker 1 no, But I do think that the bubble is sure.

Speaker 6 That's where I fell in love with these nuggets. Yeah.
Was in the bubble.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Yeah. So the bubble parts of the bubble were real to me.

Speaker 6 I've got a bubble within a bubble that's real. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Jimmy Butler was real.

Speaker 6 Jimmy Butler in the bubble was real.

Speaker 1 Also, Anthony Davis was real. Also, the sons getting sucked off was real.
So there's certain parts of the bubble that were very real. LeBron winning it all.
Not real.

Speaker 1 No, Anthony Davis did. Anthony Davis won it all.
Right.

Speaker 7 My cool throne is Peacock because it will be streaming exclusively an NFL playoff game just to further prove that streaming live broadcasts are the future.

Speaker 7 So this is happening in January.

Speaker 1 A lot of people aren't happy about it. Wow.

Speaker 7 Behind a paywall. But, hey, Barcelona.tv, we're doing a bunch.
And the NFL is clearly agreeing with that model because they are putting an entire NFL playoff game.

Speaker 6 as a stream.

Speaker 1 We're not behind a paywall, though. We are not behind a playoff.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I mean, it's genius by

Speaker 1 Peacock and the the NFL because

Speaker 1 everyone's going to want to try to figure out. It's going to crash.
They better figure that fucking shit out because if it crashes, I'll never forgive them.

Speaker 6 It might crash. It also might just...

Speaker 6 The big problem whenever we talk about streaming is the different variations of the delay that everyone's going to have. So some people are going to watch it a couple seconds before me.

Speaker 6 That's going to piss me off.

Speaker 1 But yeah, we've done it with Amazon. We did it with Amazon.

Speaker 6 We're ready for it. They've gotten us used to it over the last couple of days.

Speaker 1 But Peacock, as like an app, has sucked. So I hope that they figure it out.
Yeah. Like, I try to watch The Office all the time and like buffers and shit.

Speaker 6 All I want on any one of these streaming apps is just the ability to swipe up and have the video still playing as I go into another app. Correct.

Speaker 6 And maybe even watch another video in another app while that first video is still playing.

Speaker 1 TNT not having that has been the most annoying thing in these playoffs. I hate it.
I hate it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because I want to, like, when I'm watching a late-night game and I'm laying in bed, I want to watch the game and scroll Twitter.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I'll scroll Twitter and then I'll press play on a highlight from the same game that I'm watching. Yeah.

Speaker 6 I want to be able to watch the highlight on Twitter as I'm watching the other game and maybe something on YouTube at the same time. Is that too much to ask?

Speaker 1 Right. Anita's playing a game on Candy Crush.

Speaker 6 Yeah, get Candy Crush going.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah.
Good job, Jake. Thank you.
Let's get to our interviews. We got Brooks Kepka back on the show and then we have Daniel Rappaport, our colleague, talking about the PGA championship.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest. He is a recurring guest many times.
It's been too long. He did have a one-day suspension that he appealed, and we took away his suspension.

Speaker 1 But it is Brooks Kepka, and he is calling in live from the PGA Championship. Brooks, I'll start.
It's just great to see your face.

Speaker 15 Yeah, I appreciate that. Yeah, it's good to see you guys.
It's been away too long.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 1 So let's start here. People thought we hated you.
We never hated you.

Speaker 1 There was a portion of time where you couldn't come on because you might have joined a different golf league.

Speaker 1 And you do still hate Dave, but there's never been beef between pardon my take and Brooks.

Speaker 17 No, no, pardon my take and me and Blake are good.

Speaker 16 Yeah, I don't even hate Dave.

Speaker 21 I just saw Dave like a month ago, maybe a month and a half ago, down the Celtics game.

Speaker 23 So we talked, said hi.

Speaker 17 I think he was down there with his girl.

Speaker 1 It was quite fun. Yeah.

Speaker 24 Listen,

Speaker 23 he likes to talk some shit. I love it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 You look great, though. You look happy.
We were watching you at the Masters.

Speaker 6 You played really well those first three rounds at the Masters. You were awesome.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 It was fun to watch, though.

Speaker 25 Reality kicked in.

Speaker 6 Well, did reality kick in or did Hank kick in? Because both Big Cat and I had significant,

Speaker 6 we were rooting for you very, very hard. I'll put it that way.
And then Hank basically put the green jacket on you in Photoshop, at least. And then some other stuff happened.

Speaker 16 Yeah,

Speaker 16 he mushed me.

Speaker 26 Let's put it that way.

Speaker 27 It does suck, but it is what it is.

Speaker 1 Now,

Speaker 1 when you lost the Masters,

Speaker 1 would you characterize it as a choke? I wouldn't. But some people did.

Speaker 15 Yeah, I'd characterize that as a joke.

Speaker 1 Damn. Yeah, it was pretty bad.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 28 I mean, come on. You got a four-shot lead.

Speaker 30 All you got to do.

Speaker 29 I was playing good and just choked it away, but it's all right.

Speaker 1 We'll figure it out. I don't want to get you in any trouble, but hypothetically, let's say someone on the golf course is playing slowly in front of you.
You like to play fast.

Speaker 1 Does that

Speaker 1 kind of like ruin your rhythm sometimes, hypothetically, if someone was playing slow in front of you?

Speaker 31 Yeah, I mean, hypothetically, nobody would, right?

Speaker 1 No, right.

Speaker 27 Yeah, it's brutal.

Speaker 18 It was really bad.

Speaker 20 I think we waited every shot.

Speaker 1 Hypothetically.

Speaker 22 Yeah, hypothetically, we would have weighted every shot.

Speaker 6 Hypothetically, we have an interview coming up with Dan Rappaport after this where we may have suggested to him that in a situation like that, hypothetically, the player that's waiting could just bomb a T-shot into that person and hit him in the ribs like in baseball, brush him back a little bit.

Speaker 18 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 25 I mean, it's a warning shot, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hypothetically, but I think I should start doing that.

Speaker 23 Listen, hypothetically, I think you could give that warning shot probably on live.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yes, yes. But

Speaker 6 you do seem to be playing really well recently. Anyone that's followed what you've been doing on the live tour and the masters has seen that.
How are we feeling going to the PGA championship? Because

Speaker 6 I feel like Kepka's guys, you know, you've got an army that's just waiting to be reactivated behind you.

Speaker 16 Honestly, I'm hoping this because this is my good luck chart. Yes.

Speaker 29 Last time I came on, I came on to the PGA here.

Speaker 18 I mean,

Speaker 16 part of my take is my good luck just once.

Speaker 15 So let's take it and roll with it.

Speaker 1 Yes. So

Speaker 1 we also saw full swing. I texted with you about it.

Speaker 1 I think that episode was good. Like, overall, would you say that was good that people got to see that side of you? Because I was watching it and I was like, look, I know Brooks.
I like him.

Speaker 1 He's a friend. But seeing like you go through the injuries and the mental side of golf, when you watch it all come out, were you like, this is good that people finally have seen this side of my story?

Speaker 1 It's not all easy and like, you know, fun.

Speaker 31 Yeah, I mean, it's definitely a different side of what I've probably let on, but there was a lot of stuff that wasn't shown.

Speaker 20 It was interesting, but at the end of the day, I mean, look, I am who I am.

Speaker 23 I was authentically myself. And,

Speaker 16 you know, it's like reality TV. They can kind of script it how they want to script it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I do want to have your back, though, for one moment.
There was a scene where you were talking to your mom in your living room and you looked angry, and you text me after that.

Speaker 1 Actually, that scene happened during March Madness, and you had just suffered a very bad loss.

Speaker 1 They should have shown that because, like, someone after a bad March Madness loss cannot be judged as a regular human being.

Speaker 28 Yeah, no, absolutely.

Speaker 20 Uh, you know,

Speaker 29 I literally just couldn't move on.

Speaker 16 I'm sure every gambler knows this.

Speaker 28 I think there was a bit of cleanup that needed to happen before the cameras got there.

Speaker 23 Yeah, it wasn't it wasn't pretty i

Speaker 1 walked into a bad situation yes and you were wearing the triggered sweatshirt which was so perfect yeah i i actually it was funny because i went up and showered and i just put it i was so pissed off i went up and put the trigger hoodie on my gosh

Speaker 6 it's so perfect there was another scene that i i thought they did you dirty on um they they showed a lot of interaction with you and your dog and you weren't petting your dog when the camera was on you and i thought that that should be put in proper context where you were petting your dog that day.

Speaker 6 It's just when the camera happened to be on you, it looked like you weren't petting your dog enough. I think that's fucked up to do to a person.

Speaker 1 Yeah, of course, right? We're all dog lovers. Yeah.
Well,

Speaker 6 certain parts of the dog.

Speaker 1 Producer max. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 So, so what's what's changed recently? Are you just healthier than you've been in the past? Are you mentally, you're feeling better? What's the big, was there a turning point?

Speaker 16 It was just, honestly, it was just health, man. My knee was a lot worse than I've probably let on to a lot of people.

Speaker 32 And it feels good now.

Speaker 20 It feels really good.

Speaker 22 And then the other thing is, too, is you get into bad habits.

Speaker 15 Golf is so like mechanical and all this stuff. And if you get into bad habits, man, it takes a long time just to get rid of them.

Speaker 30 So that offseason was nice.

Speaker 15 I like that offseason.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So let's talk about live because you're crushing it on live.

Speaker 1 What, like, when you get out there and you're playing in these tournaments, does it feel totally different than playing on PGA like tour golf?

Speaker 1 Is it like, because we see the clips, guys throwing beers, you know, people wearing shorts um is it is it just golf at the end of the day or is it like a lot of fun

Speaker 24 it's uh

Speaker 30 it's pretty badass man i made i mean i think everybody saw the video of my brother making that hole of one with uh with burt there with his shirt off everybody's chucking beer my brother said he was soaked in beer which is awesome um but yeah no it's a lot of fun i mean the music's going the whole time it's it's like if you go play with your boys exactly what it would be like just with fans there that's cool That sounds fun.

Speaker 6 Yeah. It does sound fun, especially getting soaked in beer parts.

Speaker 1 That's awesome.

Speaker 6 I mean, one thing that I think golf could learn from either if it's live or if it's the

Speaker 6 waste management where they have the stadium hole, golf should have more like stadium-type environments in it and just let people go ape shit.

Speaker 19 Oh, yeah. It's the best.

Speaker 27 Honestly, it's way more fun when music's going, right?

Speaker 22 You do anything. You put music.

Speaker 1 a bunch of beer and a lot of people makes it makes for some fun times yeah yeah We we asked Dan Rapport, which is coming up after your interview, there was a story that Rory, Tiger hit up Rory and was like, hey, I could fix your swing.

Speaker 1 If Tiger hit you up, would you go over to his house and let him fix your swing? Or is that something that's like, hey, this is my swing. Don't worry about it.
I don't know what I would do.

Speaker 20 I don't know. He's definitely, he's never hit me up to be like, yo, come on over to the house.

Speaker 15 I don't think I've ever gone.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So you'd have to.

Speaker 25 I don't think I will.

Speaker 26 I don't think I will. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It might at this point. Is it weird, though, with the, like, I would assume, and maybe I'm way wrong.
Obviously, the live stuff happened last year. There was a lot of waves.

Speaker 1 Now that you guys are, you know, the masters happen. Now, now the second major.
Is it just the same in the locker room? Or is there any bad blood that happens in the locker room?

Speaker 19 No, you know what's so funny?

Speaker 20 There's no bad blood.

Speaker 19 Everybody's so chill about it.

Speaker 16 You know, everyone understands, right?

Speaker 23 It's a business at the end of the day.

Speaker 31 Like, you look at football, guys are holding out for contracts because they want this.

Speaker 15 Basketball, same thing.

Speaker 23 Everyone gets it.

Speaker 18 I think it was more like media-driven than there is anything.

Speaker 28 But everybody's cool with each other. Everybody's still good.

Speaker 6 Yeah, yeah. Has there been any talk that you've heard about the PGA tour letting live players play in more events that they want to play in and not having it be like an exclusive thing?

Speaker 28 No, I haven't heard anything about the PGA tour, but I did hear about the Ryder Cup.

Speaker 22 I think there is a possibility where, I guess, the Liv lift player could be playing the Ryder Cup.

Speaker 15 It'd be fun representing a country. That'd be sick.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 6 I think on behalf of America, we should make that happen. Yeah.
How does this course set up? Did they try to Brooks-proof this course, or is it a course that you can get out there and attack?

Speaker 25 They tried, but they failed.

Speaker 16 Honestly, today it was blowing like 30.

Speaker 18 It was brutal today.

Speaker 19 It's a fun golf course.

Speaker 27 They redid it.

Speaker 16 It's actually the 10-year anniversary of my caddy. My caddy caddy for me here in 2013.
He showed up 30 minutes late.

Speaker 17 Rick, I still don't know how he's got the job.

Speaker 1 I'm only kidding.

Speaker 32 But no, Rick's the best.

Speaker 30 So, yeah, it's kind of crazy as where it all started for us.

Speaker 6 I love that. What did you shoot today?

Speaker 17 I think I shot three over on the front, which wasn't bad.

Speaker 16 Honestly, it's blown.

Speaker 27 It's impossible out there.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 That feels bad, though.

Speaker 19 Yeah, but yeah, today

Speaker 26 doesn't matter. Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the lights aren't on.

Speaker 26 I know.

Speaker 15 Major Brooks are on Thursdays.

Speaker 29 Yeah. Yeah, major.

Speaker 6 Thursdays now.

Speaker 25 It's a lot different.

Speaker 1 Can we talk about that real quick?

Speaker 6 Like, everyone always says during a major, like, for whatever reason, Brooks just is able to turn it on during a major and focus. Do you still have that mindset?

Speaker 6 Or coming back from injuries and being out of that top level for a year or so, did you have to start focusing even on the small tournaments that you might not have cared about in the past so that you get yourself in the habit of winning again?

Speaker 17 Yeah, I think there's a combination of everything there.

Speaker 16 You know,

Speaker 18 when I finally, after this offseason, I finally was like, okay, all right,

Speaker 23 I got to really step it up. So, yeah, I guess the live events I've had to use just to make sure that I'm ready to come into the majors.

Speaker 16 And that's what you use it for.

Speaker 30 You're just using it for reps, right?

Speaker 17 But at the end of the day, all anybody cares about is majors and how many majors you got.

Speaker 16 You know, I always ask anybody when they talk about it, it's like how many, they know how many majors Jack Nicholas won, Tiger,

Speaker 18 Carrie Player, Arnold Palmer, but they don't know how many events they won total around the world.

Speaker 1 So that's the benchmark, right? Yes.

Speaker 16 At the end of the day, it's not how many wins in the regular season did you have. It's, you know, how many Super Bowls you win.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 6 Do you do you feel different on major week? Like you wake up in the morning, you're like, oh, yeah, I can, my body knows it's a major.

Speaker 6 I wish.

Speaker 23 I wish it was that way.

Speaker 16 No, I just think, right, there's more energy going on.

Speaker 31 There's definitely, there's way more people. It's a lot more intense.
And

Speaker 16 I don't know. You can tell, man, I love when everyone gets a little rowdy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You recently announced, you're going to be a father. You're having a baby boy.

Speaker 30 Yes.

Speaker 23 Yes, a boy. And I'm just going to say it out there that Blake was definitely thrown around on my side.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 15 Blake was definitely thrown around.

Speaker 1 Wait, hold on. I understood what you just said there because

Speaker 1 I have thrown out some, I was trying to name one of my sons Dion.

Speaker 1 That got shut down.

Speaker 1 But the way you phrase that means that it's not Blake because you said it was thrown out on my side. That means that was a hard block.

Speaker 25 Yeah, I don't know how Jenna felt about that one, but it was blocked. It was vetoed very quickly.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 25 She's like, I hear enough Blake. I'm not doing this.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 32 Oh, man. But it was funny.
Yeah. So I don't know.

Speaker 28 We haven't figured out a name yet, but we're working on it.

Speaker 6 Okay. If you win, though,

Speaker 6 if you win a major, you should be able to be like, I get the name.

Speaker 33 You know what?

Speaker 22 If I win this week,

Speaker 16 I'll call her when I'm done with this.

Speaker 22 And I'll be like, if I win this week, Blake is definitely on the table.

Speaker 25 Yes. It's Blake and whatever else.
I think that's a fair trade.

Speaker 1 Yes. And then you can flip a coin.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah.
I actually do a whole show. Dude, listen.
Yeah, we'll do the lottery ball machine. I actually, my son was born on Friday, and we were down between two names.

Speaker 1 And I was like, why don't we flip a coin? And my wife was like, are you fucking serious? I was like, What? That'd be funny if we, like, hey, you're this name.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're this name because it went tails.

Speaker 23 Listen, I'll talk to her.

Speaker 24 I'll see what I can do.

Speaker 21 I'll tell her after I get told off the phone with you guys.

Speaker 6 Yeah, first ever Blake reveal.

Speaker 6 Part of my take.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yes.
I like this.

Speaker 1 I like this. Yeah, the key to naming your children is

Speaker 1 you got to anchor the negotiations at the craziest things possible because then after childbirth, news flash, the woman is pretty tired because pretty crazy.

Speaker 1 And then you can be like, so yeah, maybe just Blake. And they're like, yeah, maybe Blake.

Speaker 1 This is how it works. This is how negotiations work.

Speaker 24 Listen, I don't know. Yeah, I'll take your advice on it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like, I said Dion. We could go with Dion or we could go with Blake.
Yeah,

Speaker 6 you could maybe also do anchor it even further with a much worse name than Blake and be like, the two names I was thinking of was like, I don't know, what's what's a bad name? Bryson, Bryson.

Speaker 6 I was thinking either Bryson or Blake. And then she'll be like, ew, definitely not Bryson.

Speaker 1 Brandy, Brandle, yeah, Brandon. Brandle or Blake?

Speaker 1 So are you? Are you a lot of names into this lottery? Oh, yeah, there's a lot of names. Are you? Uh, you and Bryson, you guys, uh, you guys made amends, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 23 We uh, we talked it out, we hashed it out.

Speaker 16 I think, you know, with all the live stuff, we kind of had to

Speaker 16 come together. So we're good.

Speaker 18 Um,

Speaker 17 and then, yeah, I just had Brandy's still the same.

Speaker 31 I haven't talked to him.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 So there have been people that have accused us of favoring Max Homa over you. I just want to make it clear.

Speaker 1 We love all of our golf children.

Speaker 6 We love them all. Do you have any relationship with Max?

Speaker 18 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 20 Max is a good dude. I like him.

Speaker 16 I mean, obviously, I don't get to see him anymore with Live and PGA, but he's a good dude.

Speaker 29 He's funny. Okay.

Speaker 25 The Twitter fingers.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 There's no jealousy of Max because he's been on the show in the last couple of years. Is there? I just want to make sure that all of our children feel love.

Speaker 27 There's no jealousy. No, we're good.

Speaker 1 We're good. Okay.

Speaker 26 You're still love. I got you.

Speaker 1 I love you. Remember when you got...
What was it? Was it maybe Masters last year when you were injured and your trainer came out and started rubbing your leg down and stuff? That was weird.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. That was.

Speaker 27 Where was that? I remember that. I think.

Speaker 26 Yeah, it was a few years ago, wasn't it? Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was, it just struck me because we're used to, you know, we watch sports guy gets injured it's normal like on a football field or or you know basketball court but then when a golfer gets injured and they're like getting worked on you're like what's going on here this is weird yeah yeah golfers are a bit weird anyway so yeah that makes sense yeah um

Speaker 6 What happened at the Masters when your Caddy was very clearly just telling not the other Caddy, but the announcing team

Speaker 6 what club you chose to hit? Did you have to be like, hey, just in the future, make sure that you're clearly telling the announcers and not the other caddy?

Speaker 25 You know what? It's so funny because if you really, if you watch enough golf,

Speaker 17 there's a bunch of TV crews running around.

Speaker 16 There's a million people inside the ropes and right, all the commentators want to know is what you hit. So usually there's someone standing right beside you

Speaker 16 and you got to tell them what you hit. Everyone's standing on part threes.

Speaker 22 You'll signal to the guy.

Speaker 16 And then they so they pulled us in on Thursday. And then on Friday, I guess something was going around on Twitter or something.

Speaker 16 I didn't see it, but I was trying to take my glove off, and they tried to tell me that I was signaling five to Gary.

Speaker 16 And it was interesting.

Speaker 17 I was like, I don't know how you want me to take my glove off with my fist closed.

Speaker 15 Like,

Speaker 21 what would you like me to do?

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 19 So we got pulled in two days in a row.

Speaker 16 And it was funny.

Speaker 21 The best part about it is Gary was like, I had no idea you hit five because

Speaker 28 he was like a club in front of me.

Speaker 16 He's like, if I knew you hit five, I'd have hit six. And he'd ended up in the water.

Speaker 30 So he lucked out.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Don't worry. don't worry about Twitter.
We're policing Twitter. I was on top of it.

Speaker 1 I was very much on top of it going after people being like, This is ridiculous. Just a bunch of snitches.

Speaker 16 Yeah, you got to get in the trenches every once in a while, don't you?

Speaker 1 Yeah, we were in the trenches.

Speaker 6 How far, uh, how far do you crush a drive off the tee when you have that like 20-30 mile-an-hour wind at your back? Ooh, uh,

Speaker 6 probably like 350. That's awesome.

Speaker 1 Damn, nice.

Speaker 6 Same, but yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 19 First T-shot today did that and went right into the hazard.

Speaker 1 So good. Have you ever

Speaker 1 thought about doing driver off the deck?

Speaker 16 No, I can't do that.

Speaker 28 Dude, I'd be terrible.

Speaker 16 I would look like an average golf.

Speaker 15 I would look like everyone else if I did that.

Speaker 1 I'd be brutal. I mean, I look pretty good when I do it, so I don't know.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. We got to play.
Yeah. We haven't played yet.

Speaker 1 We actually are going to make it. PFT and I are going to make a trip down to Florida because Hank got to play at Michael Jordan's golf course and we weren't able to do it.

Speaker 1 So we're going to just do the two of us going down there. We probably won't play it.
I'm a member there.

Speaker 1 When did he play like a week ago we had to work he had he got to play golf and michael jordan

Speaker 1 yeah he's good yeah he was networking he's must be nice yeah but didn't invite any of the people that he saw on the show yeah but he's working he was playing with some actual golf bros that we'd love to have on the show and he did not get us any well hank you're you're actually on right now why don't you uh defend yourself yeah

Speaker 21 Yeah, I mean, I didn't want to, it was, you know, other boys were out there playing golf.

Speaker 33 I didn't want to, like, if you were, if you came out there and some random guy that you didn't know was like bothering you to come on a podcast, like it would be annoying.

Speaker 33 So I didn't want to, I didn't want to annoy him.

Speaker 5 It was DJ.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, it was Dustin Johnson. He knows what Barstall is.
He knows what pardon my take is.

Speaker 6 Some podcasts.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you talk about it. He knows he knows.

Speaker 32 I just played with him today.

Speaker 1 I told him I was coming on here. Yeah.
He probably was like, sick. I wish someone would invite me.

Speaker 5 No, it was, it was, I don't know. I just didn't want to, I didn't want to overstep.

Speaker 33 I didn't want to overstep the boundaries. It's a great course.
I didn't want to get, you know, I didn't want to get banned forever by being like the guy that was annoying on the course.

Speaker 30 Hmm.

Speaker 5 Hmm.

Speaker 5 I thought I was being respectful. I'm sorry.

Speaker 18 Okay.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 29 Sounds like Big Cat and PFT are coming down to the grove to come play with me.

Speaker 1 Yes. Fuck yes, we are.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it sounds awesome. That sounds amazing.

Speaker 1 No, you're not coming. Hey, boo.

Speaker 15 Yeah, I was going to say, if we want a fourth, we'll get Caleb to come or something.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Exactly.
Let's make dinner. That's perfect.
Okay, last question.

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Speaker 1 Now that the Florida Panthers are in the conference finals, we got to ask you about the traffic cone and what was the story behind that.

Speaker 25 So it was Italian night, and one of my buddies is Italian, so we asked that we dressed up.

Speaker 16 So we had the track suits, the hair slicked back, the chains, everything.

Speaker 31 We had it all going.

Speaker 32 We tailgated,

Speaker 18 and I can't remember for the life of me who they were playing.

Speaker 16 But I had the team total under for the other team.

Speaker 26 Okay.

Speaker 31 And I can't remember what it was, but

Speaker 26 Eckblad gave up.

Speaker 20 It was like a bad pass.

Speaker 27 And the team total over just happened to hit right after that goal was scored.

Speaker 18 A lot of alcohol.

Speaker 20 A lot of anger.

Speaker 23 Yeah, it wasn't good.

Speaker 1 I let him have it. Where did the traffic cone come from? Were you just bringing a traffic cone in?

Speaker 26 I did not bring it in.

Speaker 18 No.

Speaker 19 It was just there. It was the first thing I saw.

Speaker 31 I've been told it's now a pylon.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 32 So I was,

Speaker 17 I guess, incorrect in my verbiage.

Speaker 16 But yeah, I was just, I was so, I was so mad.

Speaker 16 I basically lost every bet that game, and it was just, it was a disaster.

Speaker 1 It was great image.

Speaker 6 Looking at it right now,

Speaker 6 that's definitely a traffic cone i don't know who's telling you it's a pylon that's a that's a traffic cone and uh you said that you were very well hydrated at the game which i thought was a maybe too hydrated

Speaker 20 uh no you can never be too hydrated yeah it was italian night

Speaker 1 yeah yeah

Speaker 10 we were i was living my best life

Speaker 1 yeah you can't judge a man on italian night they should have otherwise rick patino would be in jail it's true yeah come on that's true you can't do that uh They also should have had a traffic cone up there for you to grab.

Speaker 6 That's entrapment. Yeah.
That's, again, that's anti-Italian discrimination as far as I'm concerned.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 23 I was surprised there wasn't more.

Speaker 20 I'm surprised the P's didn't dog me after screwing up Augusta with like some kind of pylon, something.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 16 I would have, I would have

Speaker 1 been great. Yeah.

Speaker 15 So they should have dogged me.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Are you rooting for the Panthers?

Speaker 1 Yeah, of course. Yeah.
Okay. We got the P's.

Speaker 1 We we got a we got uh we got season tickets so we'll get a box down there me and my boys we always go down it's a load of fun stay well hydrated and have a good time i love it i love it um all right well brooks we will talk to you on sunday night let's just put it into it sunday night yeah put it out in the uh in the orbit we'll just we'll talk to you on sunday night it's gonna be great you're gonna crush it this weekend and uh it was great seeing you it's good we got to get you in person sometime soon again i love it i know i think uh i might actually be in new york city here in like a month and a half, so I'll pop by.

Speaker 1 Well, we're moving to Chicago, so you'll just have to do it in Chicago.

Speaker 29 That's fine. Yeah, we come to Chicago in like a month and a half, too.

Speaker 1 Herbs. A lot of golf out there.
Let's fucking go. Easy.
Yeah. I'll have to give you some lessons.
Yeah, you should let us caddy for you on one of like the practice rounds.

Speaker 26 Yeah, I think the pro-am days will play.

Speaker 1 We'll set it up.

Speaker 6 Can we do a pro-am where it's it's like all of us as your am and we just do alternate shot?

Speaker 20 Yeah, we can do whatever we want.

Speaker 1 Yeah, golf. right? Golf it louder.
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 1 All right. Thanks so much, Brooks.
We'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 25 All right. I'll see you, boys.

Speaker 1 Give it up for Chicago.

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Speaker 9 And now for something completely different.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. It is our colleague, Daniel Rappaport from

Speaker 1 Foreplay, Barstool Sports. He is a golf writer.
In a former life, he was a Big Journalist, journalist. He is still that.

Speaker 1 He's calling in live from Oak Hill, the press tent, I believe, is what you got going on.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I believe it's the media center these days. They're trying to keep up with the time.
So it's the media center. But yes, this is the press tent.

Speaker 1 Okay, so you're at the course. We want to do a PGA championship preview with you live from the course.

Speaker 1 Let's start with just a quick backstory for people who don't know you. If you watched Full Swing, you actually saw him

Speaker 1 on Full Swing. He was one of the journalists.
But can you give people just a quick like 30 seconds? Here's who I am and how I got to barstool.

Speaker 10 Yeah, 30 seconds.

Speaker 10 Huge nerd. Went to Northwestern, like all the rest of the nerds.

Speaker 10 Worked at Sports Illustrated, just kept being a huge nerd.

Speaker 10 Went to Golf Digest, got a little bit, somewhat less nerdy, started doing some cool stuff, became friends with the Four Play guys who you guys might think of as nerds, but are pretty like cool trailblazers in the golf space.

Speaker 10 About six months ago, they asked me to join and do something new and make a bunch more money and write less. So it was like, yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 6 Have you thought about bringing back the thing where people just run each other over in golf carts? Four-player was they were at the bleeding edge of that technology back in 2016.

Speaker 1 They were trying to get it shut down. Yeah, they were trying to stop a good time.

Speaker 1 You know, the videos, they still hit.

Speaker 10 You watch someone get hit full speed with a golf cart and it's funny every single time.

Speaker 10 They always cut right after because you don't know if the guy is like okay or on the ground, but when they cut right after, it's perfect.

Speaker 7 No, they're all dead.

Speaker 6 Everybody that was in those. There was multiple homicides and golf courses.

Speaker 1 When that whole thing happened, it was so perfect because I was like, I don't condone this and I don't want people to do it. But if you show me the video, I will laugh every single time.

Speaker 10 It's an undefeated formula. Running over an unsuspecting friend with a golf cart.
I don't see any downsides to it at all.

Speaker 6 You also buried the lead here. So, I mean, you were on full swing and people saw you last year.
You're also Matt Fitzpatrick's best friend.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Yeah, you know, that was my claim to fame for a really long time was I was the guy who was just always talking about Matt Fitzpatrick. He became really good, which was really good for my career.

Speaker 10 So it worked out nicely.

Speaker 1 That's like Brian Windhorse LeBron or Ahmad Rashad, Michael Jordan. Yeah, that's perfect.

Speaker 10 You got to hit yourself to the right wagon. That's part of, that's, that's part of life.

Speaker 1 So do you like actually from a journalist's perspective, do you have to disclose whenever you're writing about him?

Speaker 1 Maybe not now at Barstool, but in the past, would you, would you have to be like, hey, we're actually best friends?

Speaker 10 Yeah, I'd usually try to put in a line like, oh, we go way back because we, we became friends in college, you know, well before I, I knew he was a hell of a golfer.

Speaker 10 So I'm gonna, I would be lying if I said it wasn't like a, hey, I know who you are, let's be friends. Um, but we go way back.

Speaker 10 So, yeah, I would write something saying, but at Barcelona, there's really no rules. And that's something that I'm learning in general at Barcelona: there's just really no rules.

Speaker 10 Just make good content. And I like it a lot.

Speaker 6 So there's one rule.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's one rule.

Speaker 1 There is one rule.

Speaker 10 I think we were all reminded of that last week. I was actually told that when I signed the contract.
There's about one rule.

Speaker 6 No bone thugs. No bone thugs.
Well, crossroads. I think crossroads is relatively clean.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 But it's we're, what day is it today? It's May 17th this will air, so you're good.

Speaker 6 So I want to talk about the golf course.

Speaker 6 Oak Hill in Rochester, south of Buffalo, western New York, seems like a beautiful course. Can you just give me the reader's digest version of things?

Speaker 6 Because we do root for the golf course when it comes to major tournaments.

Speaker 6 Can you give us some examples of things that we should be able to look out for, things that we should be rooting for when it comes to the course dominating the players this week?

Speaker 10 Yeah, well, the golf course is coming with a new set of tools. It's been completely redone.
In 2019, it opened.

Speaker 10 It's one of these old courses that opened in the golden age of golf architecture, which is like the 1920s. This guy Donald Ross, who's a very famous architect, built it.

Speaker 10 It had been kind of changed throughout the years. There's a big trend in golf courses these days where you have new guys, new architects coming in.

Speaker 10 They find old plans from the original golf course and they basically slash down a ton of trees, build new bunkers, and make it look like it did in the 20s.

Speaker 10 So this course looks, they had a major in 2013, the PGA championship here, but it's been completely redone. There's three new holes.
The guys are saying it's very difficult.

Speaker 10 The guys are saying the rough is very long. The bunkers, fairway bunkers, you got to stay out of.

Speaker 10 So if you want a rooting for the golf course this week, which I totally support, I would root for as many balls as possible to end up in those fairway bunkers because they are very penal.

Speaker 1 Okay. So, and then how long is this golf course? Is it longer than normal? Is it bigger? Let's talk about the size.

Speaker 10 Yeah, the size is, yes, it's sizable for sure. You know, major championship golf courses these days are usually in this kind of 7,300 to 7,600 yards.

Speaker 10 Um, this one's not quite as long as like a Shinnecock or a Kiwa because it's not quite so firm. Uh, it's not, you know, late in the summer where it's super baked out.

Speaker 10 It's it's it's firm, but it's not as firm as you might see like in the British Open, so the balls won't be rolling quite so far.

Speaker 10 So, it's not quite as long as the longest ones you've seen, but it's definitely not small.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 6 it sounds like it's long, but uh, not girthy, right?

Speaker 1 And it gets

Speaker 1 fairly narrow, narrow, yeah.

Speaker 10 It definitely gets the job done. You know, it's definitely long.
I wouldn't say it's it's like overwhelming with its size, but it's definitely long and narrow.

Speaker 6 Yeah, okay. It's a good, solid golf course.

Speaker 1 Grower's not going to be a good one.

Speaker 10 It's like a chill size. You know what I mean? It's a chill size.

Speaker 6 Boyfriend golf course.

Speaker 1 That's the term that I love.

Speaker 10 Toss for it. It's like, listen, you're not going to finish and be like, wow, that was borderline painful, but it's a chill size.

Speaker 6 All right. I like that.
The other big storyline I've been reading a lot about is the live golfers. So

Speaker 6 Phil took some personal time for, was it the last PGA championship?

Speaker 6 And just said, i'm gonna lay low for the good for the benefit of the event and uh just kind of take some time off here but there's a lot of golfers that at the masters from the live tour finished like really really high like in the top 10 it was just a bunch of live guys

Speaker 6 and um i know hank's rooting for the live tour in general i'm rooting for for the four aces and brooks kepka uh from the live tour which live guy do you think has the best chance of winning this PGA championship?

Speaker 10 Yeah, I love Liv Hank, by the way. It's a great little bit he's got going on.
I would say Brooks. I think Brooks is fully back.
I know you guys are big Brooks guys.

Speaker 10 Just the way he played at the Masters, the way he looked at the Masters, he finally seems to be healthy. And he played really solid in the last three live events leading in.

Speaker 10 And, you know, Brooks, as you guys know better than anyone, I think he likes being a little bit of a villain. I think he likes having a chip on his shoulder.

Speaker 10 I think he likes walking off the golf course and being like, these fuck everyone doubts me. You know, everyone thinks I can't do this.
And so I like where he's at big time.

Speaker 10 Dustin Johnson won last week. So those two on the live tour.
So those two would be the guys that I would highlight. But, you know, Brooks is a two-time winner of this event.

Speaker 10 He's never missed the cut in 10 career PGA championship starts. He delivers in the majors.
He's got 15 top six finishes in the major championships in his career. I think Major Brooks is back.

Speaker 10 I would not be surprised at all if he won it.

Speaker 1 So when you're watching golf now with the live tour, and you mentioned Dustin Johnson won last week.

Speaker 1 How do you translate that to PGA tour success where it's like, we know John Rahm and Scottie Scheffler have been red hot, have been winning.

Speaker 1 I think John Rahm what has won four times already this year. Do you count the live?

Speaker 1 You can't count the live tours exactly the same as a win, but like, so how do you, how do you look at that and see what Dustin Johnson did and be like, how does that translate to what you expect from him this weekend?

Speaker 10 Yeah, it's a great question. I think the masters went a long way toward answering that question.

Speaker 10 Before we had no idea, there was this narrative within golf, which in hindsight is pretty silly that is like, oh, these guys went to live. They're just, maybe they suck now.
Maybe they all suck.

Speaker 10 In like, you know, three months, they decided, though, we've got all the Saudi cash. We're just going to be on the boat.
We're not practicing anymore. These guys are competitors.

Speaker 10 They're still the same players that they were. The world rankings are no longer a really good indicator of how a guy's playing, but there are other ranking systems out there.

Speaker 10 And I'll give Data Golf a plug because they're great. And they do rank live golfers.
So to give you a little bit of comparison here. So Dustin Johnson in the official world golf ranking.

Speaker 10 Give me a second here to search this. I like it.

Speaker 10 Yeah, Dustin Johnson in the official world golf ranking is 82nd, okay? Because they don't get points in the live events.

Speaker 10 He's 19th in the the data golf rankings oh so there's different you there's different ways that you can look at it that do factor in look they're still really good players there's only 48 of them and the bottom half are not good there are a lot of very bad players on live but if you're winning live events you're still beating guys who a month ago you know three of the top six as you guys mentioned of the masters were live guys.

Speaker 10 So I view it as, you know, they're winning golf tournaments. They're confident.
They're checking all the boxes coming into it.

Speaker 10 And there's no reason that a live guy can't win a major, which would be very, very dramatic.

Speaker 1 So, okay, so that's a great answer. It's good to know because I do see like, oh, yeah, Dustin Johnson won.
It's like, well, does that really count as a win?

Speaker 1 How are we judging this? Who

Speaker 1 competing this weekend, who has the best game for this specific golf course?

Speaker 10 Yeah, it's hard because, you know, with these majors. that aren't Augusta, they change every year.
So the first three days is really learning the golf course.

Speaker 10 We don't have, you know, at PJ tour events, you can look back, okay, for the last five years at Riviera, you know, this guy has played well, or

Speaker 10 these are the stats. We don't really have anything, especially because this golf course, the last time they had a major was 10 years ago, and it was a completely different golf course.

Speaker 10 But it seems to be a place where you've got to be very disciplined. You know, there's not going to be a ton of birdies.
It's not going to be hitting a lot of balls close.

Speaker 10 It's going to be a lot of playing to the middle of the green, two-putting, and kind of playing that disciplined, ruthless, unemotional style.

Speaker 10 The guy who I really like this week, who would be a bit of a snoozer champion, is Patrick Cantley.

Speaker 10 I feel like this, yeah, I know you guys didn't want to hear that, but still Tigers Caddy, and I feel like he's going to win his first major this week.

Speaker 1 So, all right, so I actually had two Patrick Cantley questions that I wanted to ask you. One is the pace of play.
What is the PGA tour going to do about it? Because it's bullshit.

Speaker 1 He is maddening to watch. And the second was if you could maybe expound on what his Joe LaCava, the Tigers old Caddy, what that actually does for Patrick Cantley.
Is it a huge advantage?

Speaker 10 So the first question is. The PGA Tour will probably do nothing because they have a competitor right now and they just can't be in the business of pissing off their own players.

Speaker 10 And they just aren't, I think they're going to go for the path of least resistance. It's maddening to watch.
I totally agree. The players themselves are frustrated, but the ratings are up.

Speaker 10 And at the end of the day, if the ratings are up, the PGA tour can say, you know what? That doesn't really seem like a big problem. You know, in baseball, there's one ball in play.

Speaker 10 So if the game is slow, you got nowhere else to turn.

Speaker 10 In golf, they can at least show a bunch of different shots and switch away from Patrick Cantley and switch back and then switch away and switch back. And he probably still wouldn't have hit yet.

Speaker 10 He is very slow, but I don't think anything's going to change because the business is in a good spot and they don't want to piss off players.

Speaker 10 As far as a new caddy, you know, guys, when they're struggling, often go for a new caddy because it's more just kind of a new voice.

Speaker 10 Think about if you had someone walking with you when you worked all week and your product was kind of shitty, your tweets weren't doing so hot. Your videos weren't doing well.

Speaker 10 And you're like, you know what? It's not really personal. I just kind of want someone else behind me because we're sucking right now.

Speaker 10 So it's Patrick Cantley brought in Joe LaCava, who is not just Caddy for Tiger Woods. He catty for Dustin Johnson.
He caddied for Fred Couples.

Speaker 10 he's been around i think it's a sort of a reminder to himself that that this guy who has been tiger woods' caddy believes in him and i was talking to a few other guys who think it might be really good for patrick because joe lakava is uh he's a bit of an alpha personality and when patrick's playing slow i think there are some guys who are hoping that joe's going to be like hey pick it up kid like pick it up i'm tiger's caddy i'm not afraid to tell you this pick it up yeah what about players you mentioned baseball why don't the players take matters into their own hands like the unwritten rule is being violated and if cantley's taking too long in the fairway just just hit some drives into him.

Speaker 1 Don't tell four.

Speaker 10 Yeah. No, you do see guys,

Speaker 10 golf's version of that is kind of rolling your eyes. And you'll see a bunch of guys roll their eyes, which in golf is basically like, you know, sending a dagger on someone's back.

Speaker 10 But you guys are, guys are annoyed for sure. But playing slow is part of tournament golf.
It's never really been fast out here.

Speaker 10 It's more just there are more cameras now and someone can get a video and put it on Twitter and everyone sees that he's taken a really long time.

Speaker 10 Slow play is nothing new.

Speaker 10 And as much as we complain about it, I just don't think anything's going to change given live and given that that the business is in a pretty good spot it is the most passive aggressive sport it is it is crazy is there a penalty on the books if brooks at the masters had like been like jesus christ this guy's taken six minutes to hit a shot bombed a drive put it right in cantley's ribs and just like you know brushed him back a little bit is there a penalty that that can be enforced on brooks i don't think i don't think there is a penalty for hitting someone else i i think you know it's definitely frowned upon there's a penalty on the books for slow play you're technically only supposed to get 45 seconds to hit your shot, but if you watch golf, that never happens.

Speaker 10 And the only slow play penalty that I can ever remember them handing out is, I don't know if you guys remember this, they handed it out to a 14-year-old guy in the master's name, Tin Lang Guan.

Speaker 10 And that was,

Speaker 10 they chose to make an example out of the 14-year-old for slow play. And that's it.
So, yeah, they don't get penalized. And they just, you know, they're going to, I don't blame the players.

Speaker 10 They're going to do what they feel like makes them play better. And for them, playing slow makes them play better.
It's the tour's fault for not enforcing it.

Speaker 6 You know what memes? We should get into the fake news business.

Speaker 6 Let's make a super cut of Patrick Cantley and just like stitch together every single second of him not hitting a shot and be like, look how long it took him to hit this one shot and have it be like two and a half minutes.

Speaker 1 No, yeah, we have we should do the um there's that famous clip of uh Jose El Tuve hitting a inside the park home run and they were like showing when the pitch clock was coming along. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They were showing how many times he he went around the bases between a pitch. We should do a Jose El Tuve, how many home runs did he hit between Patrick Cantley hitting a shot?

Speaker 6 Yeah, but then have it be like two minutes. Yeah.
Like really, really select some, some good. 15 inside the park.
Maybe do some in slow-mo. Yeah.

Speaker 10 There is some like movement because obviously baseball has instituted the shot clock and I think, or the pitch clock, and I think it's been a big success. There has been some murmurs.

Speaker 10 Why don't we do that in golf? Which I think would be objectively hilarious if at the end of the pitch clock, it just went, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 10 Like if the guy's in the middle of his backswing, it's like, well, we gave you, we gave you 45 seconds.

Speaker 1 I do like the idea of drilling someone, but it also is fun that I never really thought about it. But golf, like instead of brushing a guy back, it's just you have to sigh when you see him.

Speaker 1 And then they sigh when you're on.

Speaker 10 You sigh or you like point to your watch.

Speaker 10 Sometimes they'll look at the camera and point. I think Brooks did that a couple of years ago.
And

Speaker 10 that was big time.

Speaker 1 That was thrown at someone's head.

Speaker 10 Yes. That was throwing a 99-mile an hour fastball at someone's head.
Pointing at the watch.

Speaker 1 Looking at a watch. Okay.
So.

Speaker 1 John Rahm and Scotty Scheffler.

Speaker 1 John Rahm has been fantastic.

Speaker 1 Does it really feel like like they are separated from everyone else by that big of a margin?

Speaker 10 Yes, I would say yes. There was Rory was kind of the number three for a little while, but Rory missed the cut at the Masters.
He missed the cut at the Players Championship.

Speaker 10 He seems, we just had his press conference an hour ago. He's done talking about live golf.

Speaker 10 He, you know, he was the guy who was at the podium answering all the questions, talking about how the PJ tour is about legacy and about history and how he was so proud to carry the tour into the future.

Speaker 10 And we just asked him, you know, are basically, are you going to stop talking about it?

Speaker 10 He's like, yeah, I'm done talking about it because I think it's worn on him a lot over the last year, trying to be one of the best players in the world and also being in all the meetings and giving all these press conferences.

Speaker 10 And, you know, he reads everything. So seeing all the negativity on social media, you know, Rory's kind of taking a step back.
But yeah, I mean, Scotty's got three wins this year.

Speaker 10 Rahm's got four, including the Masters. I think a win this week, John Rahm would have five wins already this year.
He'd have won the first two majors.

Speaker 10 He'll be three quarters of the way to the career grand slam. And, you know, I do think that those two have separated themselves, but I think it's also, I think ROM is the clear number one right now.

Speaker 10 I think ROM is clear number one. Scotty is clear number two.
And then there's a big gap between everyone else.

Speaker 6 Counterpoint, though, didn't Tony Finau just stare down John Rahm in Mexico?

Speaker 10 Yeah, he did at the Mexico Open at Vedanta, which was like a resort course. Yes, he did.
I don't think that that's, you know, it's basically a different sport from major championship golf.

Speaker 10 But yeah, Tony's turned into a winner after like seven years of why does this guy never win? I think he's won five in the last like 20 months.

Speaker 10 So Final is definitely playing at a top five level this year.

Speaker 6 I also saw a quote quote that was going around regarding Rory McElroy that if you're not, you can't root for Tiger because he's not playing this weekend.

Speaker 6 However, Tiger saw Rory playing at Quill Hollow and called him and was like, hey, I see something in your swing. And then Rory spent last Friday at Tiger's house getting coached up to fix his swing.

Speaker 6 Is that true?

Speaker 10 I believe that is true. That was reported by Eamon Lynch, who's Northern Irish.
He's good pals with Rory.

Speaker 10 It's kind of a frowned-upon thing, as you guys might know, in golf to give unsolicited swing advice.

Speaker 6 That's the only thing that ever happens on the internet, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 10 You post your swing, and everyone's like, oh, this, that, and the other, or you're playing golf, and some guy comes up to you and goes, you know, I really think you should slow it down, and you want to kill that guy.

Speaker 10 I think if Tiger Woods reaches out to you and says, there's something that I'm seeing, maybe, just maybe, like, you'd violate that rule if you listen to him.

Speaker 1 No, that's a beta move. It would ruin.
If Tiger wants to fix my swing, I decline.

Speaker 6 It would ruin all of my private teaching that I've had.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. I'll never let him go.
I don't think Brooks would go over there.

Speaker 1 I don't think Brooks would have gone over.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I don't think Brooks would have gone over there. I think Brooks would have said, all right, thank you.
Thank you for your advice, but I'm not doing it.

Speaker 10 But Rory, you know, these guys like worship Tiger. He's the reason they're so rich.
So anything Tiger says, they is like gospel.

Speaker 1 Okay, so while we're talking about Tiger, we are the number one Charlie Woods podcast. He's listening to this right now.
No pressure. Is he going to be a pro?

Speaker 10 I'll say yes. I think he will be a pro.
You know, being a pro in golf is not that difficult. You guys could say that you're a pro tomorrow.
There's no draft. Anyone can become a professional golfer.

Speaker 10 But the spirit of the question, obviously, being, will he? Yeah, I think he'll make a run. I mean, all signs point to him being definitely like a division one level player and he'll get a chance.

Speaker 10 He'll definitely get sponsored invites. That's for sure.
You know, there will definitely be a tournament that says we're going to, we're going to have Charlie Woods playing it.

Speaker 10 So if he wants to, if he continues to want it, like he says he does, there was a video that dropped last week with Tiger was talking to Colin Morikawa about how Charlie's kind of starting to hit it past him now.

Speaker 10 I don't think he's beaten him yet over 18 holes, but he's getting there. He's still not 14 years old yet.

Speaker 10 So as long as he continues to have this golf bug and as long as Tiger's out for a while and Charlie is kind of, it seems like he's almost living vicariously through Charlie.

Speaker 10 I do think Charlie wants to be a pro.

Speaker 1 The torch is my past. I can't believe that.

Speaker 10 I could not believe it when I saw that head cover. I texted the guy who was catting from that week.
I was like, oh, so. Is that he's like, yeah, he's an enormous fan.

Speaker 10 He listens to every single episode.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you broke that for us. We should say thank you.
A belated thank you. You broke that story.
We are the number one Charlie Woods podcast.

Speaker 6 It does sound like you're a little bit, a tiny bit of a Charlie hater.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You said he could be a Division I golfer.
And you also said like, oh, he'll get some sponsor exemptions and shit.

Speaker 6 It sounds like you don't really believe in Charlie. I think that Charlie can go as high as he wants to.

Speaker 10 You think Charlie will be number one in the world?

Speaker 6 I think minimum. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, he's already number one for us.

Speaker 1 Our golf rankings, data golf, PMT golf, we have Charlie Woods number one, John Rom 2.

Speaker 6 Number one in the universe is more like it for Charlie.

Speaker 1 Forget the world.

Speaker 10 You know, I guess in my old job, I was kind of wary about not trying to put pressure on kids, but screw it, right? He's going to be number one in the world.

Speaker 1 No, we're not putting pressure on him because whatever he does, this is our promise to Charlie Woods, again, who's listening right now. We will spin zone it as a win.

Speaker 1 So even if he doesn't make it to the PGA tour, we'll be like, yeah, he realized that it wasn't enough competition for him. Yeah.

Speaker 10 I think you guys need to show up to his first college event. and just heckle all the other kids.

Speaker 6 Yes. Well, like you said, golf is easy, right? Anybody can go pro.

Speaker 6 Like if Charlie could go pro and we're going to root for him, but if Charlie decides that he wants to do something else with his life, we're going to support him no matter what.

Speaker 6 We care about Charlie Woods, the person, in addition to Charlie Woods, the golfer.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 10 So he'll be number one in the world in whatever pursuit that he ends up wanting to fulfill.

Speaker 1 He's a winner.

Speaker 6 It's honestly weird, though, that you're putting all this pressure on Charlie to become a Division I golfer. I think that Charlie's great no matter what he decides to do.

Speaker 10 Okay. Yeah, he'll go pro in the game of life.

Speaker 1 Correct. He'll work in Enterprise.
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 10 That's right.

Speaker 1 Number one employer of D1 Athletes. Yes.
Okay, we got to talk about our friend Max Homa. So

Speaker 1 some people, not us, but some people are saying, when is Max going to make a run in a major? Again, not us. What would you say to those people?

Speaker 10 Yeah, to those people, I would say you're asking a very fair question because, you know, it's not just that he wins PJ Tour events, but he does it on hard golf courses.

Speaker 10 He's won at Riviera, which has hosted majors in the past and will probably host majors in the future. He's won at Quail Hollow, which hosts President's Cup and majors in the past.

Speaker 10 He's won at Torrey Pines, where Tiger won. And then he comes to the majors.
And I still, I think his best finish is a T14 last year.

Speaker 10 It doesn't really make sense. You would want to say that it's some sort of mental block, but Max is too smart and too good at the mental side of golf for it to be a thing.

Speaker 10 So it's going to happen one of these weeks. It's a small sample size.
You only get four chances per year. Max sucked until like three years ago.

Speaker 10 So he's really only had eight to 12 chances where he's playing like this.

Speaker 10 But if it continues after this year, I think we get to the point of like, do we need to do some sort of voodoo ritual to snap him out of this?

Speaker 10 Because he's too good of a player and his record is too good at hard golf courses to continue to be so barren at the majors.

Speaker 1 So what's a success for him this weekend?

Speaker 10 Top 10. Top 10.
Top 10. I mean, he's, what is he? Number six or seven in the world? At a certain point, you got to perform where your ranking says you are.

Speaker 10 You know, making the cut is no longer a success for Max Home in a major championship. He's, he's just not that guy anymore.

Speaker 10 He's, I see, you know, he's playing, I just saw him playing a practice round with Justin Thomas. Like that's, he's A-list.
He's an A-lister in golf right now.

Speaker 6 And if you're going to be a true a-lister you have to deliver on the four weeks where guys like me are coming on podcasts like this and people actually care you said to yourself maybe max is too smart maybe maybe he like his his brain works at a level where he does start to second guess himself maybe he just needs to get dumber you got to concuss him or he's got to smoke a lot of weed we got to concuss him and smoke some weed it's not a crazy thought.

Speaker 10 Like I've always thought that being really smart and cerebral in golf is not a benefit.

Speaker 1 That's why some of the best players in the world.

Speaker 10 Yeah. Some of the best players in the world.
I think there was a

Speaker 10 shameless plug for full swing, but there was a moment in full swing where Brooks Kepka was like, all right, who's playing the best in the world right now? Scotty Scheffler.

Speaker 10 I bet you Scotty Scheffler's not thinking about anything. And then they panned to Scotty Scheffler and he's like, yeah, you know, I'm just like out there playing golf.

Speaker 10 There's so many things that can go wrong in golf. There's so many factors to consider that if you're sitting there and you're thinking about this, that, and the other, it can be paralyzing.

Speaker 10 And you watch guys like Bubble Watson or Dustin Johnson. They're like, I'm just going to go up there and hit my fucking cut and hope it goes in the fairway.
That's a great attitude to have.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I would agree. I would say that golfers and like kickers in football, you want your kicker to be dumb as shit so that they don't overthink anything.

Speaker 6 Now, it's interesting because you were saying that Max sucked until three years ago. I wouldn't use that word, but in golf journalism,

Speaker 6 I feel like every golf, every golf writer or anybody that covers a sport is also a golfer themselves. It's a little bit different from other sports.

Speaker 6 So is it harder for you to criticize players because you play the sport and you realize how much better than you they are at the sport that you love to play?

Speaker 10 Sort of.

Speaker 10 I'm a decent player, which I think helps. And I think having played on camera, these guys know that I'm a decent player.
I definitely think that there are some people in this room. I won't name names.

Speaker 10 I'm looking right at them, but I won't name names who... don't play golf at all, can't break 100.

Speaker 10 And then they get up there and they talk about what a guy needs to do to win a major, which I think is,

Speaker 10 you know,

Speaker 10 it's sort of laughable.

Speaker 10 But yeah, it is definitely a different aspect.

Speaker 10 And I think it's one of the reasons why so many of the announcers, the guys like Smiley Kaufman, guys like Colt Nost, are former players, because definitely professional golfers respect guys who can actually, you know, break 100.

Speaker 1 I think that's kind of the prerequisite.

Speaker 6 Was it Brando Chamblue? Was it Frank the Tank?

Speaker 10 No, I love Frank the Tank. I'm obsessed with Frank Detank.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he takes a lot of criticism as any athlete.

Speaker 10 Yes.

Speaker 10 He was calling, who's he calling Vogel back? He was like, that's that fuck.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 10 I'm not going to say who i'm staring at brando chambly won a pj tour event people forget that i certainly did and i will remain forgetting that yes he did remember

Speaker 10 forever it wasn't a big one it wasn't a big one it was pre-live era but it was uh he won a pj tour event so asterisks yeah okay so give us a long shot give us a couple long shots yeah ricky fowler oh is back in the mix ricky's uh ricky's back in the top 50.

Speaker 10 i think he's been in top 20. I believe it's like nine of his last 10 starts.

Speaker 10 So he's quietly working his way back there. I really like the way he's playing.
I really like the way he's putting.

Speaker 10 He went back to his old swing coach, Butch Harmon, who's a very famous swing coach, worked with Tiger Woods and Phil Nicholson in their heydays. So I like him a lot.

Speaker 10 And then this is, you know, not, I wouldn't say necessarily a long shot, but Jason Day, who won last week. These are some names that probably bring you guys back to like 2015, 2016.

Speaker 10 But he's having a resurgence as well.

Speaker 10 He won last week. He's putting the ball unbelievably well.
And he's finally got his vertigo under control. His back's not hurting him.

Speaker 10 People forget, but in 2016, Jason Day had a historically great year. His ceiling is very high.
So two guys that are sort of outside the top five favorites, I would say Ricky Fowler and Jason Day.

Speaker 6 Interesting. Okay, what happened with Ricky?

Speaker 6 If you were to put a label on why Ricky's game broke down, because he was Ryder Cup.

Speaker 6 He was in that group of the next guys to kind of take golf into the next generation. And then he kind of fell off for a few years.

Speaker 6 What's been the problem with him? And do you think he's fixed it?

Speaker 10 Yeah, his putting used to be his strength. He worked so much on his swing changes throughout the years, trying to, we didn't want to get too, super technical.

Speaker 10 He was trying to get the club a lot more up and like kind of a less behind him.

Speaker 10 And he was working so much on that that his putting went really poorly.

Speaker 10 And then, you know, with Ricky, it's hard not to address the fact that he does about 30 sponsor days a year where he's filming commercials and he's out there with people.

Speaker 10 I don't know that that caused his. downfall, but he's always been a guy who's had a lot of interests outside of golf and has done a lot of commercials and a lot of other things.

Speaker 10 You know, and maybe when you're struggling, it's harder when you're, you, you know, a tenth of the year you're out there. Yeah.
Like Maker Maker. Rough and shoulders with like Mercedes-Benz.

Speaker 10 But, you know, he's back now. I think, I think he realizes that those deals are going to dry up unless he continues to play good golf.

Speaker 10 So golf seems to be the focus again, and he's playing really nicely.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 This has been great, Dan. I got one last question.
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Speaker 1 Okay, Roback question. Sunday night PJ Championship has finished.
What is the story that would shock you the most coming out of Sunday night? Give us a headline.

Speaker 10 Live golfers dance on 18th Green with Greg Norman in triumph. Okay.

Speaker 1 Shirtless. Brooks.

Speaker 6 Shirtless Greg Norman.

Speaker 10 Yeah,

Speaker 10 there was some talk that they were all going to party on the 18th green if one of them won the Masters, which would have been really funny, watching them try to navigate through an army of green jackets who would have formed a physical barrier because they were not about to let that moment be taken from them.

Speaker 10 But the PJ Championship's a little loosey-goosey. I wonder if, you know, Phil's not making a run if Greg's not up there, you know, shirtless hooting and hollering on the 18th green.

Speaker 6 I would love that. That'd be, I mean, golf needs something like that.
A rivalry is good.

Speaker 6 Like, if you look back at the wrestling, the Monday Night Wars of the late 90s, having a rival league that's going to be good for both the PGA and for the Live Tour.

Speaker 10 The ratings are up on the PGA tour. Golf's never been hotter.
The players always ask us, why do we talk about Live so much? It's like, well, because it's great for business. It's been amazing for us.

Speaker 10 You know, it's boring to talk about birdies and bogies, but you get to talk about Saudis and loyalty and betrayal and bribery.

Speaker 10 And it's just a completely different thing that's been a wild ride for two years.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 My last question. Are you a dimplehead like us? Do you look, you wake up early in the morning and you see where the pin placement's going to be? Are they going to put that graphic out for us?

Speaker 6 And if they do, what's the one pin placement that you've got your eye on on a particular hole? Like on Sunday, if the pin's here, you better look out.

Speaker 10 Yeah, back left pin on the par three, I believe it's 15.

Speaker 10 If it gets firm and baked out,

Speaker 10 it's going to be a disaster. Not a disaster, but there'll be some drama on that hole.

Speaker 1 I forgot to ask, what's the hardest hole on the course?

Speaker 10 I would say probably 18. Okay.
18 is a bear up the hill. Kind of similar.
It honestly reminds me a little bit of the 18th hole last year at Southern Hills.

Speaker 10 If you remember, Mito Pereira had a lot of trouble with that hole.

Speaker 10 So, yeah, you're going to have to make a really good four at the last probably to win the tournament. So, 18, I would say, is the toughest.

Speaker 5 Okay, I like that.

Speaker 1 I like that.

Speaker 1 I love whenever it gets a little bit tougher. So then you can have guys maybe hang around a little bit more

Speaker 1 who are in the clubhouse with a score and be like, well, they got to get through this. That makes for a great, great theater on Sunday.

Speaker 6 Would they have to watch the tiny TV, like the Eric Kelly sites?

Speaker 1 But it's not like, because some courses, you know, it gets easier. And it's like, well, they'll just pick up a few

Speaker 1 strokes right here. But if it's a gauntlet down the stretch, that always makes it fun on Sunday.

Speaker 10 I think it's fun when birdies matter. I mean, JT was seven back last year and came back to win.

Speaker 10 That doesn't, like you said, that doesn't happen on a pillow soft golf course where everyone's shooting six under so I like a little bit of variance as well.

Speaker 6 Birdies matter. Birdies matter.
I like it.

Speaker 1 That's a good birdies matter.

Speaker 1 All right. Well Dan, thank you so much.
Also congratulations on finally saying hi to me when you saw me in the neighborhood.

Speaker 10 I didn't say congratulations on your newborn though. I just said hello.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you just said hello.

Speaker 1 Well, I think it might have been before, but yeah, he Dan lives like a block away from me, and there's been a couple of times where I've seen him and he just keeps walking because he's like, I don't want to bother him.

Speaker 1 It's like, dude, we work together. So

Speaker 1 he finally mustered up the courage to be like, hey, hey, what's up? And I was like, hey, what's up?

Speaker 10 And I said it. I was like, I made a point.

Speaker 1 I was like, hey, hey. Like I was saying hello.

Speaker 10 So it was nice.

Speaker 1 So it's good. So we've taken our relationship to the next level where we can actually say hello to each other on the street.
It's nice.

Speaker 10 It's a big step. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, man. Thanks so much.
Everyone, follow him all weekend. He'll be at the course and appreciate you coming on.

Speaker 10 Thanks, guys.

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Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 We have guys on chicks. Before we do that, we watched Big George Foreman, the movie that we had a sponsorship with a couple weeks ago.
I said, I have to see that movie.

Speaker 1 I saw it as a preview when I saw air a couple months ago or a month ago. And I was like, I have to see this.
I love boxing. I love boxing movies.
We watched it.

Speaker 6 It did not disappoint.

Speaker 1 The Big George Foreman.

Speaker 1 I mean, it seriously is one of the craziest stories that I don't think gets talked about enough that George Foreman had a legendary championship career, then retired, then came back, and in like his mid-40s, got back to the top.

Speaker 1 It's crazy. The whole thing's not.

Speaker 6 He was 45. He was 45 years old and won the heavyweight champion of the world.
Pretty crazy stuff. Also, all-time grill salesman guy.
Oh, I love the George Foreman grill. Dude, George Foreman,

Speaker 6 he sold so many grills. I bet you he sold billions of dollars worth of grills.

Speaker 1 So I saw, shout out Trung T-Fan, who does great Twitter threads all the time about business and everything.

Speaker 1 So they launched it in 1994, the George Foreman Grill, and it was doing $200 million a year by 1998. George Foreman was getting paid so much.
He said he was getting paid

Speaker 1 upwards of $8 million a month for royalty fees. His royalty fees were so crazy that George Foreman, the grill makers, had to buy him out for a lump.
sum for $138 million

Speaker 1 in 1999. It was a lot of money.
I love that.

Speaker 6 Well, my favorite part of going to college was getting a George Foreman grill in my dorm. If you had one of those in your dorm room, you were a king.
You could grill out in your room.

Speaker 6 George was a legend. Also, still is a legend.
Also,

Speaker 1 one of the best parts about the George Foreman Grill, they actually offered it to Hulk Hogan, and he just

Speaker 1 decided to do a meatball maker instead.

Speaker 6 Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 So, talk about sliding doors. But back to this movie, awesome movie.
Boxing movies are the best.

Speaker 1 The Ali scenes were incredible. Rumble in the Jungle,

Speaker 1 like iconic, iconic stuff.

Speaker 5 My biggest takeaway was like he's basically the force gump of boxing. It was like the beginning of his career was Ali and Joe Frazier, and then the end of his career was Holyfield.

Speaker 5 And he thought at one point that he was going to be fighting Mike Tyson, which is just an insane,

Speaker 5 insane lapse of type. That is such a big time period.
The fact that he was...

Speaker 5 prime time winning championships against Joe Frazier and then was you know fighting Vander Holyfield almost beat him and then was you know talking about, just the fact that he was even talking about potentially fighting Mike Tyson, that seems like 100 years difference.

Speaker 1 And don't forget the 1968 Olympics and winning the Olympic gold. And he got, they showed in the movie holding up the American flag because there was protests in that Olympics.
But yeah, you're right.

Speaker 1 That's a perfect way to put it. He was the Forrest Gump of boxing, just spanning decades and being fantastic.
And his...

Speaker 1 The way he boxed, the fact that he had that punch, I was actually thinking about it because oftentimes when I think about like historical sporting events, I'm like, who would I have been on?

Speaker 1 Uh, because I think Ali was like a three or four to one underdog in the Rumble in the Jungle. I definitely would have been on George Foreman because I've been like, How could

Speaker 6 his punches are so strong? He's so much bigger.

Speaker 1 He's so much bigger. And I would have been like, We're winning this fight as Ali's doing rope.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
I would have been like, This Z.

Speaker 6 You would have considered that to be like a bad beat, even though in retrospect, it was just a strategy that paid off big time for us.

Speaker 1 I would have been live-lining it. Yeah.
George Foreman minus a thousand. Easy.

Speaker 6 Double down.

Speaker 1 Double down. All you can't get off the ropes.

Speaker 6 He was 76 and 5 in his career record. That's crazy.
It's insane that he had 81 career fights in a boxing ring.

Speaker 5 Also classic, that was, you know, in the movie when they were talking to the guy that he trusted to do his investments. He was like, how are the investments going?

Speaker 5 And the guy was like, oh, they're in super safe stocks.

Speaker 5 That you knew was going to be wrong. And then later in the movie, it's like, you know, can I get the money? They're like, the money's all gone.
They were all high-risk gambles.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 6 it's all gone. He's 74 right now.
He could still kick my ass for sure.

Speaker 1 Oh, dude, that punch, the way, the power in his punch is fucking insane. But yeah, this movie was awesome.
Any sports movie, boxing movie, the best, recreating like legendary fights.

Speaker 1 So check it out, Big George Foreman. It's in, you can rent it or buy it, and it's also in theaters.

Speaker 6 Big George Foreman.

Speaker 1 Yeah. What's he George Foreman? That?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 By the way, before we do guys on chicks,

Speaker 1 Max had a hell of a day yesterday.

Speaker 1 People were coming at him online. People were making a lot of comments.
He looks like this guy. He looks like that guy.
I did screenshot one comment that I wanted to share.

Speaker 5 I got one too. I got a great one from the Instagram.

Speaker 1 Yeah, oh, it might be the same one. Let's bring them all out.
So this person said, shout out Brett Hennig.

Speaker 1 He said, Max looks like an insanely passionate American sushi chef who left his family to be in Tokyo, failed, and came back with nothing.

Speaker 1 That was oh, so good. Just nailed me.

Speaker 6 I gotta say, Max, it's grown on me a little bit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's not as good.

Speaker 5 I like the people that said Max. I think it was like the YouTube comment.
I was like, Max looks both terrifying and he but pulls it off at the same time. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Yeah. It kind of looks, it kind of looks natural on you.

Speaker 1 And when you put your hair down, you kind of look like a troll doll.

Speaker 1 Remember those troll dolls? That looks nice. Yeah.
That sounds nice. Yeah.

Speaker 5 We have Max's

Speaker 5 Pawn Shop merch available now.

Speaker 6 I don't know if you guys saw those shirts yo they're probably sold out by max was like we're not gonna sell any of them i was like not with that attitude you looked like jay and silent bob at the same time

Speaker 1 it's great it's great it was listen do you want to talk about the setup sadness sells what what you did to him oh uh tune into pm tv so people saw the photo shoot pictures tune into pm tv

Speaker 1 you heard you heard max bitching about the photo shoot on sunday night bad mouthing our our merch team. I defended them because maybe I knew a little more than he knew at that moment.

Speaker 1 But yeah, PMTV has the photo shoot. Thank God we did the photo shoot.
Those pictures were incredible.

Speaker 7 Thank God. I was actually thinking the same thing.

Speaker 7 Imagine if those pictures didn't exist.

Speaker 1 That actually was a productive photo shoot.

Speaker 7 Oh, there was a Father's Day merch coming on sale soon. Thursday, 10 a.m., I believe.
Stored up ArsenalSports.com. There you go, Jake.

Speaker 6 Sure, Jake.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's why we did it. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 6 That's exactly why.

Speaker 1 That was why it was productive.

Speaker 6 I saw one Photoshop that I didn't care for particularly, and that's just somebody took the soul patch on the bottom lip and they just moved it to the top lip.

Speaker 6 And it is a wide soul patch, and

Speaker 6 it looks like the H-Man. You got an upside-down H-Man on your face.

Speaker 1 So do you. That's true.
So do you know?

Speaker 6 What's more concerning is just people that I've had a couple of people that don't even realize that I have a soul patch until after they talk to you for like 15 seconds.

Speaker 6 No, no, I shaved.

Speaker 1 We told you that was going to happen.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so I was talking to KB outside. I talked to him for like four minutes, and he's like, Oh, yeah, you got the soul patch.

Speaker 6 It just looks so natural on you that I didn't even think, and that's concerning to me.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I want to say I would have been as good of a sport, but I wouldn't have been.

Speaker 1 No, Max has been a great

Speaker 1 sport. He has.
I love him.

Speaker 6 And we're soul brothers, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's just had a really bad stretch of sports sadness that we've been able to monetize greatly.

Speaker 1 I also think the soul patch bet is going to stick. Like, we'll have to do another one.
Yeah. Woody.

Speaker 6 Who do you guys have on your Mount Rushmore of Soul Patch Havers? Max has got to be on there right now. I would say

Speaker 1 Holly Mandel. Dylan O'Deal.

Speaker 6 Mark McGrath from Sugar Ray.

Speaker 1 Scott Stapp.

Speaker 6 Yeah, Scott Stapp from Creed. Now, Guy Fieri has the bleach soul patch, but he's also got the goatee that goes along with it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just one of those days.

Speaker 6 Oh, Fred Durst. Fred Durse.
Fred Durse. Yeah.
Yeah, Fred Durst is up there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's been great. It's been great.
And Max went to the gym, so he's looking better.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you look great, Max. He's shaking his head.
He's in the middle of the day.

Speaker 5 What did your girlfriend's roommate think?

Speaker 1 I hate everybody.

Speaker 1 I hate everyone in this room. People liked the episode, Max.
The numbers were crazy. Yep.

Speaker 6 You're a numbies guy.

Speaker 1 You're a numbies. Numbies, numbies.
Yeah. One thing about Max.

Speaker 37 Almost got to 10K on Instagram.

Speaker 1 Let's go. Ooh, okay.
Here we go. Everyone, follow him.
What's your Instagram handle?

Speaker 6 CM Delente. This

Speaker 1 That's my first name. I'm just kidding.

Speaker 6 It's like punk, except Delente. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. CM Dental.
Yeah, that's what I was going for.

Speaker 5 I would have to think

Speaker 5 probably the two biggest episodes we've done in the past six months are post-Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Yeah. His sadness, we have we basically are,

Speaker 1 you know, using it as a renewable energy source. Max's sadness.
We've found a way.

Speaker 6 We've channeled Philly's losses.

Speaker 1 We're Bitcoin mining with Max's losses. All right.
Guys on chicks.

Speaker 5 Hey, boys, my husband doesn't put on deodorant before working out. For context, he works out alone at home in the morning and then just showers right after.
Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 5 I find it weird that he doesn't put on any deodorant beforehand, but he explains that he's still going to sweat and just shower right after, so it's a waste of deodorant.

Speaker 1 Facts. That's a fact.
Facts.

Speaker 5 I find this weird, again, since I... Put on deodorant no matter when or where I'm working out.
Is it just a normal guy thing or am I in the right? Also, congrats to Hank on the lottery ball.

Speaker 5 Some people graduate college on the the amount of time it took him to correctly pick one number but congrats still that's true not Stenza Bennett also like you're this this this girl is a helicopter girlfriend yeah who like who cares when your boyfriend puts on deodorant yeah as long as he doesn't smell bad yeah and we won't get into the conversation about how how soap doesn't work on our pits also deodorant's trying to poison us right fresh sweat cleans it out well soap doesn't work on our pits but

Speaker 5 As long as you put on deodorant after you shower,

Speaker 1 who cares?

Speaker 6 I said we're not going to get into that, but yeah, I agree. Because if we did, we'd just we'd go around in circles again.

Speaker 1 I think why doesn't anyone dunk from the free-throw?

Speaker 6 This guy, this guy is an idiot, or this girl is an idiot, because you don't, nobody puts on deodorant just to work out by themselves.

Speaker 6 If you're going to the gym, I can see maybe being a good gym citizen, you might not want to stink it up in front of maybe, but I would also understand not putting on it.

Speaker 6 It's like you don't brush your teeth before you drink orange juice, right? That's like putting on deodorant before you work out.

Speaker 1 It's actually, if he were to put on deodorant before going to a gym, I know you said home gym, but say he was going to a gym, that would be a sign he's cheating on you. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Why are you putting on deodorant before you're going to get sweaty?

Speaker 6 Yep.

Speaker 5 I also just think that that level of monitoring on

Speaker 5 deodorant is just too much. Let the guy live.

Speaker 1 Too much. Agreed.
Your buzzkill.

Speaker 5 My fiancé never wants to pee with the bathroom door open. He thinks that's a sacred time only for him.
However, He feels completely comfortable taking a dump with the door open for me to see.

Speaker 5 He even does it when his guy friends are over and even when my best friend is over. I feel like that's really weird.
That is. Thoughts PMT crew.

Speaker 11 He peas with his uh

Speaker 1 he pulls down his pants all the way away.

Speaker 11 He's one of those guys.

Speaker 1 That is weird to do one or the other.

Speaker 5 Shout out to Playboy Marty after you did that in the bathroom here the other day. It was wild to walk into.

Speaker 1 He like just not even joking? Just ass was out.

Speaker 5 It was like after one of the streams, so it was late night and I'm blowing up his spot, but it was.

Speaker 5 I got a chuckle out of it. Didn't say anything to him after.
I'm just saying it now.

Speaker 1 It always plays on the podcast.

Speaker 6 It's always a laugh out loud thing when you see a grown man. It's incredibly fun.

Speaker 1 Wait, did you see it as a joke?

Speaker 5 No, it was, it was like, it was late. It was like midnight.
I don't think he, you know, it was probably five people here total. And I just walked in the bathroom and just cheeks out.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Pants on the floor or pee pants on the legs?

Speaker 5 No, pants, like kind of, you know, pushing the booty up, like just as, you know, right below the ass.

Speaker 6 It would have been funny if he had like pants on the floor and then he was doing the thing where he's like also holding his shirt up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's how my son pants. Luckily he did.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I would start doing that.
That's weird to do the close the door for the pee and not for the shit.

Speaker 1 One nice thing about having kids is I don't think I've taken a shit in my house without at least one of my kids trying to have a full conversation six inches from my face. Yeah.
That's fun.

Speaker 1 That's really fun.

Speaker 6 There's something wrong with this guy, I think. Yeah.
This is, this is strange behavior.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, something he's doing something weird.
What if he, what if he thought he could only pee if he, like, if he jerked off?

Speaker 11 He had to get hard to pee.

Speaker 6 Maybe that's it. Or maybe he's, yeah, he's probably doing something in the bathroom that he shouldn't be doing when he pee, when he allegedly pee.

Speaker 1 He's putting his finger up his butt? Maybe putting his finger up his butt.

Speaker 6 Maybe using drugs. Maybe he's using heroin when he says that he's peeing.

Speaker 6 Interesting. You should ask him that.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Check his arms. This is a good one.

Speaker 5 Sup lottery ball winners minus memes.

Speaker 1 Damn. Tough.
That hurts. My boyfriend has.
Has memes not got it? Memes never got it.

Speaker 5 Ever? He tried to say he got it before.

Speaker 1 He hasn't.

Speaker 5 Anyone anyone that says that none of them counts no uh well they did

Speaker 5 yeah okay they did count my boyfriend and i have one year have both have weddings we are invited to on the same day my boyfriend is his old roommate slash former boss and mine is a childhood friend yeah how do we handle the situation this is the easiest question ever you both go to your weddings and have the best time ever without your girlfriend or boyfriend

Speaker 1 yeah like if you're in a relationship and then you start start going to a bunch of weddings, there's definitely a point where you're like, oh, it'd be nice if I just get fucked up without anyone being like, hey, why are you all fucked up?

Speaker 1 Like, go have fun at this wedding.

Speaker 6 It's perfect. It's also weird that his former roommate was also his boss.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 That sounds like a startup situation.

Speaker 6 That's like if Billy lived with Jake.

Speaker 6 It'd be tough.

Speaker 1 That's like when I co-signed Hank's lease.

Speaker 6 He was my boss. Yep.
Yeah. Yeah, that was awkward, wasn't it?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was really awkward to have an employee.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I think going to separate weddings is kind of the dream. Yes.
You know what I'm saying? You go to a lot. You guys should actually get two dates

Speaker 6 and just take a night off.

Speaker 1 But no, seriously, you're going to end up going to a million weddings. They all are the exact same.
That's the thing with weddings.

Speaker 1 Once you start going to them and you get in your wedding like late 20s, early 30s, and you start going to all these weddings and they all just blend together, this one will stick out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Really,

Speaker 6 from the time you're 25 until 35, all of your discretionary income is spent going to weddings. Yes.
Might as well have some fun. Just summers.

Speaker 1 Weddings.

Speaker 1 Is that it? That's it. Okay.

Speaker 1 Lottery ball. So

Speaker 1 we got some updates, right, Jake? We got to go.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I have to file through, but we had a lot of AWLs. Thanks for reaching out.

Speaker 1 And let's get a sponsor, Dank.

Speaker 7 We'll organize it. I'll send some screenshots to you guys on

Speaker 1 how to build one. Memes have every option.
Memes. Yeah, get memes.
Go grab memes.

Speaker 6 I don't know if he's gotten it. Memes never got it.

Speaker 1 Go grab him.

Speaker 6 Unless he has, and I'm just forgetting. No, he has not.
Are you sure?

Speaker 1 No, he has not. And he's already said he's gotten a lot of tweets about it.

Speaker 6 I don't know, which is great. I want to double check with him.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hey, memes. Hey, memes.
We're about to do the lottery ball. Just wondering if you've ever gotten it.
I haven't.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. Really? Yeah, afraid not.

Speaker 6 How long have you worked on part of my take?

Speaker 6 This is about to be two years coming up. Oh, but we've been doing this that whole time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, haven't been in the room. Yeah, but you've never even gotten it the number that you wanted to pay.
Like you said for a while you were going to be number three and we never got that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and three wasn't even

Speaker 1 a little ass. What is that? That's not an asterisk.
No, yeah, that's on me. Yeah.
Big and lot. Balls that aren't any.
All right. Well,

Speaker 1 numbers.

Speaker 11 16.

Speaker 1 17. 1.
17.

Speaker 5 26.

Speaker 1 8. 6.

Speaker 7 If you can't get 26, that'd be sick.

Speaker 1 What was your number? What was your number would be picked?

Speaker 7 Memes? 1.

Speaker 6 That would not be sick, Jake.

Speaker 1 Five

Speaker 1 so close. I feel like we haven't seen it.
Third time. Third time.

Speaker 6 Five. You're never going to get this meme.

Speaker 1 It's fucked up. No, you're never going to get it.
What's uh, just shout out your socials real quick.

Speaker 37 Uh, at pardon my meme on Twitter.

Speaker 1 Uh, I believe it's like find it on

Speaker 1 Instagram.

Speaker 6 So you're going to say like 235.

Speaker 1 Yeah, 235.

Speaker 1 That's what I thought you were saying before.

Speaker 37 Underscore pardon my meme on Instagram if you want to chirp me there.

Speaker 1 All right. Okay.

Speaker 6 Shout out your socials and your mother's maiden name.

Speaker 1 Yeah, at pardon my meme.

Speaker 1 Yeah, never gotten it. He's literally never gotten it.
He's never gotten 7th, 2021. Wow.

Speaker 1 He's never gotten it. Okay.
See everyone on Friday.

Speaker 6 Love you guys. Dogs have free islands.

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