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The Victor Wemben Yama lottery has been decided. Doc Rivers was fired.
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Oh no, we're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue And then we'll take it higher Oh, we're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue It's Part of My Take, presented by Barstool Sports Welcome to Part of My Take. Today is Wednesday, May 17th and and Nikola Jokic is a fucking monster.

Monster, monster, monster.

Nuggets take game one.

What a game.

PFT, Jokic, baby.

Jokic.

Jokic.

Jokic is a beast.

And on Taco Tuesday, no less, snatched it right out of LeBron James. It was the altitude one that game in the first quarter.
At the end of the first quarter, when the Nugs were up 12 points before the Lakers got their second win, all they had to do was just kind of keep them at bay for a while. And they, I mean, credit to the Lakers, because they played a pretty good game.
Both teams offensively played really well. The Nugs had like seven basks.
I think there were six or seven shots that went in, which were like, no, no, no, no, no, yes, shots. That had no business going in.
They got a lot of lucky shots from the outside. But they also, at the same time, they got lucky a lot, but they also played really, really well.
And so there was no way that the Nuggets could afford to lose that game after playing that well and getting so many good breaks. That was a must-win game after the first quarter.
It was a must-win game because Jokic, I think, with maybe nine minutes into the first quarter, he already had had his double-double. He ended up with a triple-double, 34 points, 21 rebounds, and 14 assists.
And so there's two ways to look at it one nuggets up 1-0 played great everyone was making shots uh kcp got caught fire for a while there jamal murray was was hot for a while there like everything was clicking for the nuggets then the other side to look at is Anthony Davis just had the quietest 40-point

night I think I've ever seen. When I looked at the box score when it was midway through the fourth and he hit that three, I was like, wait, he's about to have 40? Because it didn't feel like that.
Because Jokic was that dominant to start the game and the Nuggets had. And, uh, the fact that the Lakers had a chance to potentially tie it with, uh, like 20 seconds left has to get you a little nervous if you're a nuggets fan, because the Lakers were down 20 for stretches of this game and the, they came all the way back.
They almost stole it. Makes me nervous because that feels like it feels like it's going to be a great series and like yoka just going to have to do this every night and he's going to have to have his supporting cast do this every night and yes i would say like i mean when you're looking at this game the nuggets completely dominated the boards they've got 17 more rebounds but the lakers are going to be there like're just...
Austin Reeves is a stone-cold killer. Can we say that? Now he had like 11 points in the fourth quarter.
He was hitting everything. Yeah, he does look like he could be an extra on Ozark, too.
Yeah. The dude is awesome.
He has a boat. He's legit.
Yeah, he's got a boat, and he gets the kids in trouble, and then they find out, like, oh, shit. Now they're in real real trouble because they have heroin in that boat yeah yeah a kid from our he's from arkansas right so yeah a kid from arkansas would be would feel right at home in an arena named after mason jars so austin reeves is legitimate like he he is a legitimate threat i think we can stop he's a new deli he.
He might be better than old deli offensively.

I haven't seen him die trying to defend Steph Curry yet, but yeah, he's extremely talented.

Somebody's going to pay Austin Reeves a lot of money at some point, and it's going to be awesome.

He's Hillbilly Kobe.

That's his nickname, which is a great nickname.

It is a great nickname.

Watching this game, I kept thinking. I was watching it with my mom and I was telling her, because she likes college basketball more than NBA.
I was like, mom, watching this game, this is a completely different sport that they're playing than college basketball. It was so fun to watch.
I think a lot of people out there were saying that it's one of the best NBA games of all time, right? I think our senior business correspondent had something to say about that. Yeah, Darren Revelle, not a prisoner of the moment, tweeted directly after the game.
It was maybe like five minutes after the game. People will dismiss it because it's not an NBA Finals game, so the stakes weren't as high.
But what you just watched was one of the greatest games ever played yeah one of the greatest games ever played uh he didn't specify sport either he just meant like games of all games ever played that's that's the best uh it was a very good game and i'm looking forward to seeing i think yeah five more of these very good games i still think nuggets Nuggets in six. If Jokic can dominate

like he dominated tonight, and I actually don't see a reason why he wouldn't be able to. As insane

as his game was tonight, that's kind of what Jokic has been doing these playoffs. Granted,

he hasn't had 34 points yet in a triple-double, but he's been taking over games and just dominating,

whether it's his passing, his rebounding, or his shooting, or tonight, his outside shooting.

He had that one at the end of the third quarter where Anthony Davis just starts smiling afterwards, and you know that you have him beat at that point. Yeah, yeah, and listen, I do think the Lakers, like, I don't know whose line is it anyway, what their line will be on Thursday night.
I think the Lakers might win game two because it did feel also like in the fourth quarter, it felt like they figured a little something out. Like Anthony Davis was playing off.
Gordon was disrupting everything. Like you could tell the Nuggets got a little tight going into the paint.
He was blocking every shot. He was like, you know, if not blocking a shot, making everyone think twice and make that extra pass or...
So,

I just think it's going to be a long series. I think it's going to be a

great series, a long series.

I'm scared about the Lakers.

This felt like... What is Max showing us?

What is Max showing us?

Use your words, man. It was the spread.

Oh, what's the spread?

Why don't you just say it?

I didn't want to interrupt what you were saying, but I thought you could see it. Lakers might be a game of the month.
I mean, it does feel like the Lakers have done this in Memphis round and the Warriors round, where it's like they lose one, then they have that extra effort to win one, or when they come off a big win,

they'll kind of walk around and be like,

oh, we don't need this one.

They need this one, game two.

So I don't know.

It's going to be a great series.

This was an awesome game one.

I'm so excited for this series.

Yeah, it's going to be great.

I don't think LeBron played great tonight.

He had that weird shot at the end,

wasn't great from the outside,

and he did give up. We should mention that when they had a chance.
Were they trying to tie the game? I think they were down three. Or no, they were down five, I think, and they had a turnover.
Lowell was when LeBron got the ball in the paint and went between his legs, lost the ball. Jamal Murray hit it out, actually.
Yeah, great, great defensive play. And then LeBron just kind of stood there, and they let, like, seven seconds tick off the clock.
But we should, by law, as a sports podcast, say that LeBron James needs to hustle more at the end of the fourth quarter. Yes, yes.
Yeah, Jokic at the eight-minute mark of the first quarter had eight points, ten rebounds, four assists. That's a full game for some guys.
Yeah. It's more than a full game.
He was just purely dominant tonight. Yeah.
I mean, the rest of it, everybody played well tonight. I feel like nobody had a bad game tonight.
Yeah. No, actually, the only one who I would say is D'Angelo Russell, who had moments where it was like he has a little bit in him where he's like,

watch out.

It's D-Lo time.

And I'm going to do this.

And he was missing shots.

And it's like, dude, you have like the way this Lakers team is built and why they're

so good and why I'm so scared of them is they have a ton of guys who can step up.

And you had Rui Hachimura step up.

You had Austin Reeves step up.

You just had D'Lo kind of be like, try to be the hero for a little bit there and wasn't

shooting well.

And that put him in a hole.

And didn't D'Angelo Russell say earlier this year, like after he left the T-Wolves, right?

He said like, finally, I've got the green light.

I get to play without the restrictor plate on me.

Yeah.

And so this is what you get sometimes with D'Angelo Russell when he doesn't have the restrictor plate on him. Yes, exactly.
For load management purposes, I'm sure there'll be a lot of people talking about Anthony Davis playing 42 minutes in high altitude. Will he even be able to play game two? I would sit him.
I would probably sit him too. I would sit him and LeBron, regroup, bring it back to LA,

get it down to sea level,

and then see if he can rattle off two games at home.

The series doesn't start until a road team wins a game.

Yes.

By the way, I'm wearing the sports hat.

It's in the Barstool Sports Store right now.

If you do not have a team in the playoffs anymore,

it's the best hat to wear because you're just –

like I was just sitting there.

I had my bets, but I was just rooting for sports.

and I'm going to sit back and watch one singular game and like really get yourself into it you know what i mean just like sit there and just soak in that game experience the commercial breaks take a breath yeah yeah it's it's it's not bad i i do like the conference final week that's uh it's a much needed break yes um okay before we talk when bignana and we have to talk when bignana and the spurs and we also have to talk a little used to think that sandwiches were just, you know, basic, until I realized how easy it is to level them way up. It's all about starting with the best ingredients.
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They went David Robinson, Tim Duncan. Now they're getting Victor Wembenyama.
They have five titles in the last, whatever it is, 25 years. But I still can't be mad at the spurs because like i've been to san antonio nice town but like good for san antonio good for the spurs fans i'm not mad and popovich like if you want a young player to not have his career go sideways with bad coaching and a dysfunctional franchise there's no better place in san antonio for him to land yeah you be mad.
You can be mad at anybody if it makes you feel better. But I think in this case.
But I can't muster it. That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, well, if you compete, if you're in the West and you have to compete against the Spurs, at this point, you're just like, come on, really? Like, again? And I get that. I understand that sentiment.
But as a fan of sports, Big Cat, as a fan of the league in general, I think we can agree that him going to San Antonio is like the perfect culture fit. We called it with Kirk Goldsberry that Pop would be the best place for him to land with the Spurs history, not just with big men, but also at the international level.
And guys like Ginobili, Parker, Boris Diaw, who, by the way, Boris Diaw is the owner of the French team. Oh, that Wimbenyama plays for.
So a little NBA rigged. Now, I also I read one tweet that said that.
So I might be wrong on it, but it looked like a solid tweet. So I'm just going to repeat it verbatim.
I think Diaw owns the team that Wimben Yamuna was on, and then now he's over on the Spurs. So if you're putting on your NBA rigged hat, which I'm going to allow everybody to do because it's fun to say, there could be something to that.
But I think from just a development standpoint, it's good. It's good for San Antonio.
And San Antonio is low-key a big market people don't really they always refer to it as being a small market team fuckload of people live in san antonio yeah and big people too yeah they eat a lot people yeah what was charles barkley the churros big women yeah big women in the churros um so yeah so i can't be mad at the spurs i just couldn't muster it up i don't really know what team I would have been mad at, but the Spurs are not it. What I did do, though, instantly, because I stupidly was, like, all day thinking, you know, NBA rigged.
They're going to figure out a way. The Bulls are going to have a miracle.
So when it didn't happen and it was over very quickly, I did just go straight into, like, he's probably not even good they showed they showed before uh he had a game today and he like went and he had 22 and 8 in the french league come on like yokus just had 34 and and 21 and 14 so i might be on victor wemenyama is too uh too skinny and also Rudy Gobert is would be his like you know Frenchman uh and so maybe what's the best dog he can have in him a French poodle I don't know these questions that I'm asking yeah yeah I would I if anything the spin zone you go with is he's already peaked yeah and he and he's done progressing at this point so yeah you've already seen what he's going to give you whereas other players like Jokic weren't very good when they were drafted there was a lot of room to grow with Wimbeni Mama he is he's already seen everything that you're going to get from him but in reality he's like seven five did you see the picture of him that they showed it was uh showed? They had a video feed of his lottery draft party. And you know that you're a fucking baller if they've got cameras on you.
If they fly Brian Windhorse overseas to hang out with you at the draft lottery party, you've got it made at that point. 70-second interview.
And the mic didn't even work poor windy he's the hardest

working guy in fucking business and and he is so strong and the mic didn't even work does he part does he parlay la francais i don't know if he parlay's la francais but he's listen if windy's got your back right away that means like that's a good thing like windy going out there actually revers actually reverses everything and i'll be fully transparent um my thoughts that he is not going to be pan out and that you know he's too skinny he's too french all these things this is just like the bitter i was spending all day fantasizing about having him on the bulls and then when he's not it's like immediately try to shield yourself from any type of hurt it's what guys do you know like oh you can't hurt me i'll hurt you so that that's all those thoughts i actually probably wound up rooting for him liking him uh hoping he does really well but right now i'm gonna just hurt him and not let him hurt me first i i wanted him on the wizards absolutely like that's that's a guy that you can actually point to and well, we're going to be good for the next 10 years if we manage this right. But I do like the spin zone of being, just saying right off the bat, he might be too French.
Yeah, he's too French. If he got matched up against Dirk, Dirk would just dominate him in the first quarter of the game.
Right. Go right over him.
Right over him. And then he'd just lay down and then expect his American teammates to pick him up and carry him to a championship yeah but maybe one kid maybe andrew one canadian maybe andrew wiggins helps out yeah and then they'd have to do it again 20 years later at the end of his career when they drafted a good strong strapping american young boy but yeah uh he's the pig the video feed that they had of him when he was standing up in that room was

laugh out loud.

Funny because he's just walking around the room and his head is bumping.

He's the ceiling.

That also might be a French thing.

They might just have low ceilings.

Cause they're,

they're smaller people in France.

Well,

I actually,

I've heard reports that he's like lying about,

he's doing the Kevin Durant.

He's lying about his height in the reverse way where he's like,

no,

no,

no,

he's only seven,

four,

but people are like,

he might be seven,

five,

seven,

six.

It's like no no he's only seven four but people are like he might be seven five seven six like he's gonna keep growing a little bit more I just know um there's 13 other teams that were in the lottery

tonight and I'm speaking to those fans specifically it's okay to just get off a couple takes being

like that's a bust and and we know that all 13 franchises that didn't get him, we know deep down we would have done anything to get him, but use this time to shield yourself and be like, didn't even fucking want him. I want a guy who played in college basketball.
Okay. Yeah.
I want a high character guy like Brandon Miller. Come on.
I don't want Victor Wendonendin yama so and and and i'm specifically speaking to pistons fans who got fucked so pistons fans you had the equal chance for the number one pick and you ended up with the fifth pick and it was like to have that happen in this draft where you don't even make the final four brutal absolutely brutal so so this fun little nugget came out after the draft from ben goliver i thought this was unnecessary for him to put out there was kind of mean uh he said the san antonio spurs won the nba draft lottery and the right to select victor with a ping pong ball combo 14 5 8 2 after the first three numbers were picked the washington wizards had six of the possible 11 remaining numbers and barely missed i don't need to know that we keep that to yourself that's that's some behind the scenes price waterhouse cooper analytical shit ernst and young yeah that the the accounting one of the the big three or whatever accounting firms they you keep that information in-house and that felt like it was like it was personal and unnecessary being golliver keep that shit to yourself how do they pick that one random guy from ernst and young because you know like he then just litters his his corner office with just pictures of him at the the draft lottery like do they do they get to they do a draft lottery at ernst and young to decide who gets to go because that is the peak of being an accountant, right? That's why you get into numbers. That's why you study math in high school.
Do it to someday get to walk out and not even meet the commissioner, but just walk out with the cards and place it on the table, and you have your little name on ESPN, and that's the peak. That's it for you.
Yeah, you're like, I'm the sports accountant. I'm a numbers guy, but I'm the cool numbers guy.
It really, I didn't use any accounting in this. They just basically needed someone people trust so that they can say, oh, well, he handled it, not us.
Yeah, I'm a little bit salty with that stat coming up, but whatever. That sucks.
We move move on spin zone at least i don't have to care about the wizards for another 10 years so that's good that's a blessing that that is uh pft that's like when i do the 50 50 and i get to like the fourth number and i'm like fuck then when you like because i never get i never get to like the fourth or fifth number and then the rare time you do and you're like why did you even do that that was such a tease yeah in the nba they have it set up a little bit differently from hockey where it's more likely that a team that doesn't finish with the worst record or the second worst record has a much better shot at it when you take everything into account but i mean congrats to san antonio good job it's been you know being a san antonio spurs fan it's not easy as hank would say for boston

sports fandom it's they also last thing about the lottery i don't understand why the nba they're adding a mid-season tournament and all these playing games if you made a lottery tournament people would watch like that would be fascinating to watch where it's the 14 teams or maybe you say it's the last six teams or whatever.

But if they had to play and the winner of that gets to go, gets the number one pick, it would be great. Like if you want more ratings, you want more fans.
Fuck. I'd be rooting my ass off.
If the polls were in the finals of the, of the losers bracket, like that would be so much fun. unless you had a team that had like a pretty

decent center on it and then he would tank the the championship game so that they wouldn't draft women yama yeah true um all right last thing before we kick it to ourselves for hot seat cool throne and brooks kepka daniel rapaport and uh guys on chicks uh doc river is fired So Doc Rivers fired.

He had to be fired.

I mean, Montys also got fired it's one of those things in sports like you can't you can't trade and bead you can't trade kevin durant and devin booker so you need a fall guy he probably should have been fired but it also is like one of those rare cases where Doc Rivers loves to blow it in big moments. But that loss to me was squarely on James Harden and Joel Embiid.
Yeah, I don't know if getting rid of Doc is going to solve everything, but it's a start. They had to do it.
I saw a stat that said the three winningest regular season coaches in the last three years have all been fired yeah yeah crazy yeah because i mean think about it i think i think nick nurse won coach the year a few years ago i know monty williams might have won it two years in a row and they both got fired and i don't know if bud won coach of the Year. What, Jake? Doc Rivers, Nick Nurse, Monty

Williams, and Mike Budentholzer have six

NBA Coach of the Year awards between them.

All dismissed this offseason. Eric Spolch

was not one-on-one from FireEasy Sports Network.

Damn. So Bud did win

one. So yeah, that's crazy.
And they all are

gone. Max, do you want to...
I just

want Max to talk real quick, like

30 seconds, just so you guys can see

his camera view of his soul patch. Go ahead doc out thoughts uh doc out fine you look like a frog yeah i know i'm having some issues with my computer right now i had to switch to my phone um yeah i guess it's a good day for philly who really cares i mean a lot of people in philly are really happy about it but i don't really think it makes any of a difference i think it makes a small difference right you'd rather if you're going to try to rebuild this thing you don't want doc to be the guy yeah no it's more of like you would be angry if they brought him back but him leaving doesn't make you happy if that makes sense.
Just the absence of anger. Yes.
Well, yeah, that's basically my entire existence. It's simply like you have to go through the process of someone has to be accountable, and it can't be Joel B just because of how contracts work.
You know what I mean? It's the exact same as Monte Williams. I don't think Monte Williams williams is a bad coach but you're like we have to change something up well you're not going to change devin booker and kevin durant so monty william there's the door at some point over the years should doc rivers have gotten a vocal coach like we see this happening with morgan wallen and a lot of singers doc rivers has been perpetually hoarse for it feels like the last 15 years i don't know how effective as a coach you can be if you never actually have a speaking voice yeah yeah best coaches who who never have their voice i mean coach o won a national title that's true but he's still got that he can he can yell at you that that voice resonates um michael mcdonald uh what's his name michael malone michael malone never has a voice either yeah um hank do you want to tell us quickly what you're thinking before game one you feel super confident super confident no i feel confident i mean they came out with a stat uh that was like espn bullshit bullshit fuck espn but they were it was like 97 something's Like that was the stat.
That was like ESPN bullshit, full shit, fuck ESPN. But it was like 97% Celtics had a chance.
That was the percentage that they were going to win the series, which I thought was a little bit egregious. But I feel good.
I'm excited. 97% chance.
So this would be the biggest upset ever. According to them.
I mean, I feel like it's a little bit closer than that. Probably like 60-40 think if you looked at the bruins first round odds it'd probably be a little bit higher than 97 yeah i mean listen i know what it's like to be number one and lose and i'm looking at at cake marsh and i know what's on the other side there so i know how formidable of a foe that is i also would like to just um since we have bro Brooks on this show and we're getting close to Blake of the year, I'd like to say I'm rooting for my good personal friend, Blake Griffin.
I got a little bit of a lashing on text last night. He threw 99 in my head and was like, where are you going now with your buddy B-Ball Paul? So I'm shifting.

It's Blake Griffin time.

Let's go.

Blake Griffin has been a loyal, loyal guy for this show

and one of our all-time guests.

So sometimes you just need to be corrected in life,

and I got corrected.

Hank was witness to it.

Yeah, I wanted to ask him how his back was, but I't want to i didn't want to press it yeah um i have one last thing uh that just came across uh twitter breaking moves breaking moves breaking moves magic johnson has uh weighed in on game one. He has said the Lakers need to regroup and clean up some things for game two.
That's it. I mean, PSG, the fact that that's your owner now.
That's my owner. Yeah, he's right.
I mean, spot the lie. They need to regroup and then they need to find some things.
Maybe the basket. Clean up some things.
There you go. Okay.
Yeah, I mean, spot the lie. That's a guy that knows ball.
When he's coming that early, when he's coming this recently off a game, too, you know he's fired up. Usually it's like a full 12 hours to 24 after the game ends.
I can't wait for Magic Johnson tweets after Commanders games because he is just a perpetually positive guy, and finding positive things to say about the Redskins football team Commanders has been very tough to do for the last 30 years. I can't wait for those.
Those are going to be must-watch. All right, let's kick it to ourselves.
We've got a lot of great show coming up, and Brooks is back. Rejoice, Brooks is back.
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Okay, hot seat, cool thrown. Hank! I ought to have a couple.
Yeah. First one is the NHL.
Yep.

The. Every bite.
Okay. Hot seat.
Cool throne. Hank.
Hot seat. I have a couple.
Yeah. First one is the NHL.
Yep. The conference finals.
Absolute dud matchups. Absolute dud.
It's disagree. It's Dallas versus Vegas, Carolina versus Florida.
Jake, I mean, you're not even going to be watching. You say you disagree.

I'm going to be watching.

No, you're not. You're not watching every game.

Shout out all of our Carolina H-word fans.

I will.

Okay.

If I'm able to.

Exactly.

That Eastern Conference Finals is a nightmare for Hank,

who has extreme distaste for any sports team that is based around an entire region

as opposed to a city.

I remember you got really upset about the Carolina Panthers at one point,

completely forgetting that you root for the New England Patriots.

Yeah, I think that was satirical, but I guess that type of stuff

over your head.

No, it wasn't.

No, it wasn't.

Listen, this podcast gets listened to by a lot of people across America

try to talk about all sports.

I think that's one of the things we do well

is we talk about every single sport we're not just one one sport centric so knowing that we have fans all across America let's say one thing about each team I'll start we'll go around let's start with the Carolina Hurricanes I'll say their full name that pig that they have the the rally pig or something yeah fucking cool okay uh. The rookie that got his face caved in by a vet skin in the playoffs took it like a champ a couple of years ago.
Okay. Nice.
I think they should change their name. It's offensive to people who are affected by it.
Maybe hurricanes or malt liquor. Hamilton, the pig, by the way.
I just looked it up. There we go.
Hamilton, the pig. It's a good name for a pig.
Great name. They have a cool logo.
The hurricane logo? Yeah. Now you're just complimenting Miami.
You're complimenting weathermen, too. Yeah.
That's Carolina. Yeah, but it's the same logo as the hurricane.
No, it's different. Miami hurricanes? No, they have the logo, though.
No, I know. Miami, they have an alternate logo, don't they? Is it on a flag? What is the Miami hurricane? Maybe it's Sebastian the Ibis you're thinking of? Yeah.
The U has the two. The U is the iconic logo.
No, I know that. Yeah.
I know that. I thought they had an alternate logo as well, but maybe not.
Okay. Yeah.
This is really good stuff we're doing. Mm-hmm.
All right. Billy? Carolina Hurricanes.
Don't know much about them, but I like the Golden Knights. Okay.
Okay. Well, that's not the thing that we're talking about.
All right. Good job.
All right. Next team, Florida Panthers.

People forget Ariana Grande, huge Florida Panthers fan,

actually got hit by two pucks, I believe.

I don't know.

Maybe it was one.

Yeah.

When she was like a little girl.

She had season tickets.

All right.

Kodak Black.

Kodak Billy.

Come on, Billy.

You've ruined the easiest thing in the world here.

Kodak Black was at a Florida Panthers game with a stripper and was basically banging her doggy style during the game in an open-air suite. Also, Mike Ruiz from Levitard.
Good friend of ours. Brooks hates them, and so do I.
Okay. That clip of him holding up the cone.
Yeah. All right, Jake.
Hometown team. It's right next to the Sawgrass Mills Mall, where Wanda Deuce City used to be.
Great spot. Billy? Come on, Billy.
I already said mine. No, he didn't.
He is out of turn. There's no such thing as a Florida Panther.
True. Yeah, so I just took yours.
Okay. Dallas Stars.
Joe Pavelski, Badger. Awesome player.
Also, I kind of rooted for the Dallas Stars for like a second

when Patrick Sharp got traded there.

I was like, oh, I'll hope they do well.

And then I just forgot to do that.

The Texas Stars, minor league affiliate of the Dallas Stars,

they play in Cedar Park, Texas.

Used to go to a bunch of their games.

Great arena.

Always a good fight there.

I think they won the Calder Cup one year.

So I like their minor league program. Okay.
tyler sagan bruins champion uh i think this is my official pick and team i'll be rooting for okay their goalie is named jake oh very cool very cool billy this is the hardest task in the world for him dallas is a cool city all right nice is it? Sure. You ever been there? Actually, I was in Arlington.
Yeah. That's classic Dallas guy out there.
Yeah. You're not as disappointing as the Cowboys.
This is as far. This is further than the Cowboys have gone in 20.
A lot of years. Eight years.
A lot of years. Yeah.
28 years. Okay.
Vegas um the helmets are very cool when they wear the gold helmets yeah that's really cool makes me think of notre dame makes me think of football makes me happy when they do the all gold everything and trinidad james song comes on that's pretty cool good pre-game ceremony too where they do the medieval times on acid thing on the ice. Love that.
The Caps won a cup there. Okay.

I forgot Love that.

The Caps won a cup there.

Okay.

I forgot about that.

Yeah.

A lot of good memories in that barn.

Good one. They're having insane success as still a new franchise.

Yeah.

They're in the mix every year.

Once a new franchise comes, you can't.

Yeah, they did.

They're not the new guy anymore.

They got cucked by the Kraken.

Kraken.

We're crackheads.

That's right. All right.
They're having great new guy anymore. They got cucked by the Kraken.
Kraken. We're crackheads.
That's right.

All right.

They're having great success in their first few years.

Okay.

There's a dude on their fourth line with the same last name as me.

Football?

Yeah.

That's a weird name for a hockey player.

That's sick.

All right.

So we said something nice about every team.

Good for us.

Okay.

That's hockey talk.

Because, you know, people are like, hey, why don't you talk about this team?

See you next year.

Yeah. No.
Listen. Clip this.
Anytime anyone, hey, why don't you talk about this team? See you next year. Yeah, no, listen, clip this.
Anytime anyone asks us, why don't you talk about this team? Boom, we just did it. We'll do the same for Stanley Cup Final.
We're fantasy puck boys. Yeah.
Hell yeah. But, yeah, this is not exactly the dream for the NHL.
Still will be fun to watch because hockey players are fun to watch, but a little tough. You can rig one thing per year.
You either rig the playoffs or you rig the draft. They rigged the draft this year.
Good job, NHL. Now let's maybe think about rigging the playoffs next year.
Yes. My other hot seat was Aaron Judge.
Got caught cheating, stealing signs again. Yankees back at it again.
Yep. He was stealing the pot.
Jake, did you see his eyes? Did you see his quote? Oh, what is his quote? Should we believe him? A lot of chirping from our dugout, which I really didn't like in the situation where it's a 6-0 game. I was kind of just trying to see who was chirping in the dugout.
Oh, just chirping. Just the dugout was chirping.
Yeah, that's why he glanced just with his eyes and not turning his head. Right, Jake? And wouldn't chirping, like wouldn't saying, you know,

what pitch is coming, wouldn't that technically qualify as chirping? The other assumption from friend of the program-ish, not really, Buster only, friend of the office, friend of the – No, no, no. No, no, no.
Friend of Frank. No, no, no.
No, what? Friend of Frank? No, he hates the match. He's doing the chop.
Enemy of all of us. Yes, enemy of all of us.
There is an assumption on the Jays side that their pitchers and catchers were betraying the identity of the forthcoming pitches last night. It's a really advanced way to say maybe tipping pitches.
Oh, that's another way to say that the dugout was sending signs to Aaron Judge about what pitches were being tipped. Wait, but he struck out, so it doesn't matter, right? Nope.
Two home runs. But they weren't very...
And this is why he was glancing to his right for info. The home run didn't go that far, did it? Oh, he crossed it.
Oh, in 480 feet. Listen, if it comes out he was cheating, I will admit we don't deserve that in baseball.
Prince Stripe's permanently gone. Permanently? Jake, I actually disagree with you 100% on that.

In baseball, if you're not cheating, you're not trying.

If you're able to get away with it,

I actually think if you're communicating to Aaron Judge

from the dugout what pitch is coming,

if it's being tipped or as Buster put it,

if they're betraying...

Betraying the identity of the forthcoming pitch.

I love that phrase.

Betraying the identity of the forthcoming pitch

and your team is communicating that to you without the use of electronics, then it's fine. You should be allowed to do it.
I actually think also MLB, they should just plan some type of cheating scandal right around now every year. Because it does get...
Cheating in baseball is, I think, the only sport where it's actually beneficial because it gets people talking about baseball. Yeah there's a fight i think that rough netto door uh joey bats fight was on roughly this day like seven years ago i love a good springtime brawl just get us talking about something else it's either that or a b delay about this time of year well the other notable clip was the the sunday night baseball asking the red sox oh yeah guy you know on mother's day he's like it's mother's day and your mom died when you were a kid talk about that yeah that was quite quite during a play during a play yeah it was the mic'd up on the field yeah he handled it really well though yeah with the announcer no the player oh yeah what do you think jake carl ravitz should he have asked that question or not as a play-by-play guy? I think that's – like we watch the draft all the time

and you have those features, right?

Those are pre-produced.

But when you're in the middle of a game,

that's just the last thing you're probably thinking about.

Yeah.

Well, it was Mother's Day, so, I mean, he had to be topical, I guess.

Yeah.

He was mic'd up with that guy.

So, Judge, cheater or not a cheater?

Cheater.

Wait, if his dugout was telling him what pitch was coming, that's technically cheating? It's bending the rules. Yeah.
So, if, like, a player... I mean, that's...
You're not supposed to look and see what, like, the catcher is doing and then relay it to the batter. That's the Astros.
No, but that's electronic. But that...
They were doing the same thing. They were looking, seeing what was being called by the catcher

and then relaying it to the batter.

But they were like using technology.

Right.

That's like having another headset in your helmet in football

that communicates you during the game.

I think you should be allowed.

As long as there's no like vibrating watch

or a camera that's in center field relaying signals.

If you don't bring a battery or electricity into it,

I think you should be allowed to do in baseball.

I don't know. As long as there's no vibrating watch or a camera that's in center field relaying signals,

if you don't bring a battery or electricity into it, I think you should be allowed to do in baseball.

I don't think you should be able to do it from the dugout, though.

I think if you have a guy on second and you can figure out a way to do it, that's fine.

How about this?

I don't think you should be allowed to do it. Yeah, or the first base coach, third base coach.

That's fine.

But in the dugout, it's like, yeah.

No, it's true.

Yeah, you should be allowed to do it as long as you're not on the Yankees. Yeah.
How about that? Mm-hmm. Fair? Do you have Rick Riley's number? I might.
Can you text him something? Yeah. Can you just text him, a judge receiving improper benefits? I didn't know Harlan Crowe was in the news again.
And just see if he'll run with that tomorrow. Okay.
I want to ghostwrite to Rick. And then my cool throne.
I don't his number is friend of the program recurring guest dwight howard oh what's he up to he is in taiwan playing uh i don't know if you guys have seen any clips of him playing the last year he drops like 40 a game shoots as many threes he wants absolutely dominates uh there's some very funny commercial shoots where he's you know living, basically. And he made a video trolling all of the underperformers in the playoffs.
Jordan Poole, Julius Randle, Ben Simmons, Clay Thompson, Aiton, CP3, and Jabes Harden. Called them all out and is recruiting them to Taiwan.
Ooh, I would love that. Dwight Howard's living the life.
He's back to trolling. It was a very funny video.

And honestly, he looks like he's having a great time.

I would imagine. He shoots 100 threes.

He drops 40 a game.

Probably lives like a king out there.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And now he just gets to go viral, calling everyone out that underperforms in the playoffs.

I also like how we referred to Taiwan as a country.

John Cena definitely not coming back on the show now.

Come on, Hank. That's China, brother.
Way to go, Hank. Depending on where you sit.
No. What? It's not China.
No, it's Taiwan. It's a country.
That's one of the things we stand for on this podcast. Did I say country? No, no, no.
You're right. You're good.
You're on the right side of Russia. You said Taiwan.
I just said he's playing in Taiwan. I didn't say it was a country.
Fact. He's playing in Taiwan.
Wait, so then why'd you bring up what he said was wrong? Well, no, I'm saying that he's playing in Taiwan I didn't say it was a country Fact He's playing in Taiwan Wait so then why'd you bring up the What he said was wrong Well no I'm saying I'm saying that he's right But John Cena's not Gonna want to come back on this show Because he acknowledged Taiwan Because you acknowledged Taiwan That was John Cena's big mistake That he made Remember that If you said Thailand That would be a whole different story What was his apology video He started out by going Ni hao And then he just apologized In Mandarin For calling Taiwan a country. But Hank didn't even call it a country.
I just said he's playing in Taiwan. Well, if you had been referring to it as part of China, you would have said Taipei.
Okay. So good job.
Got it. Thank you.
Appreciate it, Hank. PFT.
Older round geopolitic politicizer. Politicist.
Yep, that's you uh my hot seat is georgia academics yeah i had this as well because stetson bennett um somebody did some research on him and looked up the graduation at georgia that just happened last year uh his name was not on the roll he doesn't have a degree from georgia so he spent what seven years seven years seven years at the university of georgia some at a community college as well or a juco as well yeah and then came back yep got the pre-reqs taking care of that way if he didn't i i saw someone wrote i think might have been six and some change but if he didn't uh his first two years of college if he didn't accumulate any uh credits he still had a full like four and a half years to get his degree.

Yeah, this is Van Wilder type stuff.

Like legendary.

Nobody had a better college experience besides the whole arrest thing

than Stetson Bennett did.

Yes.

He had a fantastic time at Georgia.

Also, I didn't know I learned this.

Fun fact, Newman from Seinfeld went to Georgia, also didn't get a degree.

How many years?

Like a year maybe.

Oh, okay.

Yeah. That would check out.
Yeah. Didn't they call Steson Bennett the mailman too was that a nickname that he had for a while I don't know why would they call him the mailman he's just delivering because he looked like a mailman and he's delivering like he doesn't really have to do much the paper boy just throwing the newspaper is his nickname it is his nickname why is it his nickname looking okay wow that his nickname? Looking.
Okay. Wow, that's freaky.
Yeah. My cool throne is U.S.
soccer. Yeah.
U.S. men's national team.
Because it's coming home, we just got to commit from, I'm going to try to say this name correct, for Lauren Balogan. For Lauren Balogan, he's on the Arsenal.
He's on the Arsenals. And he's a striker, and we don't have a striker.

He was trying to figure out if he was going to play

for the British, the English national team,

or the American national team.

He chose to play for the U.S. men's national team.

So once again, he probably saw that game at the World Cup.

Yeah.

And he was like, oh, the U.S. won the shit out of that draw.

I want to play for some winners.

So we got a big defection. Biggest defection since Prince Harry came over to the United States a couple years ago.
We got for Lauren Balugan, and he rounds out the golden generation of U.S. soccer.
I love that he just did this like it was a 17-year-old. Is your watch talking? Yeah, Siri's talking to me.
I love that he did this like a 17-year-old deciding what college to go to it's a country yeah we got some nil money it was between us england and nigeria so i think he made the right choice so it's coming home 2026 hell yes way to go dude feels good what do you got got it so he wore a mailman hat to recruiting showcases around the country as a way to stand out that's a vennett that weird. Oh, yeah.
That's very weird. His buddy's father is the mayor of a small town around here, and he's always getting cool things.
I saw the hat one day and asked if I could wear it. I first wore it to a camp in Badosta, Georgia.
I'm not real big or striking physically, but I wanted to have something people would remember me by. Okay, so that's like another Seinfeld episode where George tried to get everybody to call him t-bone yeah he started eating steaks everywhere yeah he wore that hat specifically so people would start calling him i don't think we can give him that nickname anymore i don't have to take it he you know what didn't graduate he's the fail man oh burn how about that you're the fail man that's in stetson you get two titles wait he got drafted what the fourth round fourth or fifth yeah the rams yeah he's in the ramley yeah so he'll be fine yeah he'll be good he'll be great uh okay uh so my hot seat was also stess and bennett i'll pivot well actually no well because we already talked about doc rivers getting fired uh and jay wright possibly being the sixers head coach i'll just go right to my cool throne my cool throne is martha stewart who's on the cover of Sports Illustrated Swimsuit.
And would she be the definition of a baddie? She is. She's a baddie.
She's done time. Bad grandma.
Yeah. She's hot.
She looks good. Go ahead.
Put it on there. She's hot.
Listen, Martha Stewart is probably the hottest 81-year-old in the world. And I feel no problem saying she's hot because she's on the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition.
She is on there being like, look how hot I am. She wants me to call her hot.
Yeah, she's like, I am an older woman who is hot. Did she make her own swimsuit? That would have been great.
She crocaded or whatever. Crocaded.
Yeah. Arts and crafted it.
It's made out of her grandmother's quilt. What is it? Crochet? Crochet.
Crochet. I like croquet better though.
Croquet. Crochet.
Who cares the fuck? She looks good though. Listen, she is, she does it for me.
I'd suck a fart out of her ass. Yeah, I'd drink her bath water.
Okay, Billy, you're not super good. I think I would.
I would suck a fart out of Martha Stewart's ass.

I would drink Martha Stewart's bathwater.

I bet you she's got like a luxury giant clawfoot tub in a well-lit room.

Some scones next to it.

Oh, yeah.

She probably has bathtub scones.

Yeah.

Martha, come on the show.

Yeah.

Literally.

Please.

Come on.

Come on the show.

Come on this show.

And give me that ass.

I'll suck that fart right out.

You know what? I'll suck it fart right out. You know what?

I'll suck it out and spit it right in PFT's mouth.

Birthday show.

Yeah.

That's the birthday show that we record at midnight.

Fuck yeah.

Take her to Paris, show the Eiffel Tower, and then suck a fart out and pass it.

Suck and blow.

Yeah.

I'm sorry, Martha.

That was...

No, I think that was exactly what she...

I mean, look, she's hot. Yeah.
What do you want to say she's fucking hot i am but a man at the end of the day a man with a boner she's 81 you think she gets still 69 oh yeah on top and bottom yeah standing 69 that might be a hip yeah hip issue but we'll give it a try, Martha. Okay, Billy.
Would you fuck Martha Stewart, Billy? So my hot seat is... Pussy.
My hot seat's humanity. About a year ago, JPMorgan Chase started using...
Martha Stewart's daughter is 57 years old. Yeah.
Martha Stewart's way hotter than her daughter. Oh, man.
Her daughter's too old for me, but Martha Stewart, she's just right. Martha Stewart kind of looks like Donald Trump.
A little bit. You want to fuck her, in other words.
You do want to fuck her. That's like question answered.
Okay, so about a year ago, they started using this workforce activity data utility software. And now a year later, a manager for JP Morgan Chase came out on Reddit and actually said what this software was doing.
And apparently it was using AI technology to track workers, eyeballs, physical attitude, and basically take all these invasive data points to ensure that their workers are like working 100% all the time if they're having a bad day. Basically, it ranked all their workers on how hard they were working.
It's kind of crazy because then during the work from home era, they were tapping their microphones and video cameras through like a third-party software that they thought was just like, you know, a one login type thing. And, you know, basically this person at JPMorgan wrote on Reddit, JPMorgan got taken down off Reddit.
We don't know if this is actually entirely true of what all this guy said, basically he said that i was waiting for that this is yeah this is billy read something on reddit we don't know if it's true no but no no he read he read something on reddit about something that got taken down on reddit got it basically they're saying that if this stuff's like pretty insane how much data points it's collecting and it's by they you mean jp morgan chase so i'm looking for news jp morgan i i look like anyone's written i blogged about it oh okay no but it's it's out there but some of the stuff is it people have written about it it's on twitter okay okay there we go and telegram yep yeah so basically you can detect if you have like a gaming system on on your camera or like illicit drugs in your background while you're like did the blog get posted it's about to be posted um no no so it's not out there yet but basically they can look it's in the camera but it's not out there and all these guys at jp morgan chase randomly been getting fired and they think it's because they're looking into their backgrounds while they're zooming or even while they're working when

they don't think their camera's working.

I would think that if any company out there would not care about how much you're working,

it would be a company like JPMorgan Chase where they only care about the bottom line.

It's like if you don't work hard, but you still bring money in, then who gives a shit,

right?

Yeah, this sounds like something that a bunch of people who got fired or pissed off about being fired made up to be like this is why we got fired blame ai it's kind of a little crazy it is a little crazy i would love to see if it's true i think yeah basically this person who leaked it it's like been getting taken down off reddit so it's kind of weird that something like that's been getting taken down, even though it was so open-ended that if it wasn't true, then it wouldn't be getting reported so consistently. It sounds like a PR team trying to get it.
Yeah. Okay.
Also, they were trying to do phishing schemes by trying to offer certain employees different jobs through emails, and if they click the link, that also was bad for their score. You'reloyal they're entrapping them you're just looking for jobs on company time yeah you remember when when dave sent out an email like three years ago being like hey we're opening up barstool florida just to see who was going to apply for the barstool miami position yeah that was funny that was very good oh my cool throne is justice those two fishing cheaters from a couple of years years ago.
Oh, nice. Finally got.
Nice. Yeah.
Congrats, Billy. I've been.
Yeah. I can finally sleep tonight.
Yeah. No, I was proud.
Ten days in prison. You did bust this case open.
Yeah. Twenty five hundred dollar fine.
But this is a big. They got their boat.
Ten days in prison is kind of the perfect amount. Yeah.
It's a nice figure. Well, to be like, I went to prison.
It depends on what day i would love to go to prison the day after the super bowl until the combine but just to be like oh yeah i've done hard time yeah 10 days 18 months probation and also a three-year ban on ever getting a fishing license again that's the max sentence they can ban them but you still have to apply for a fishing license and it's kind of like they're gonna just yeah from fishing for life because no state is gonna allow them to fish get a fishing license right i kind of like that never allowed to fish again i was proud when i saw this news come through because i knew that you were instrumental in getting justice to be served in this case so on behalf of fish everywhere billy thank you on the other hand you're kind of a narc well they got caught also the fish were already dead right yeah but you know but they were no

they kind of a narc well they got caught also the fish were already dead right yeah but you know they kind of snitched on them it was a fishing competition right but we're gonna catch the biggest fish and then they were stuffing weights in the right but the fish were already dead so you didn't actually save any fish's life no they were i don't care fishing's they're eating all of them okay what happened was is they were stealing from other fishermen by winning the contest getting huge boats right tons of prize money but they already got caught doing that at the competition so they're already in trouble you just kind of sent them to prison right i also sent george santo to prison and you didn't you didn't save any fish i don't care about that part okay you don't care about the fish no all right all right well i So you're a wildlife guy. I mean, care about that part okay you don't care about fish no all right all right well i thought you're a wildlife guy i mean care about sustainable fishing oh okay all right well yeah this is walleye fishing yeah yeah okay oh thank you billy thank you for your service you can you fucking put those guys in jail hell yeah what they did was fucked up yeah what they did is you're basically a cop now yeah any like sports it's probably one of the worst sports cheating scandals in the past 10 years.
It is. We got weights and fish.
Easily. It was nuts.
It's up there. Puts the Astros to shame.
All right, Jake. My hot seat is Matthew Stafford and Clayton Kershaw.
Oh. Because there is a new sports duo out there.
Oh, yeah. That grew up together.
Jason Tatum and Matthew Kachuk of the Florida Panthers. Shut the fuck up.
7th, 8th, and 9th grade together at Chaminade in the St. Louis area.
And now they're both in the final four of their respective sports. That's wild.
Actually, I didn't have a hot seat. I'll do my hot seat right now.
Jake, you're on the hot seat. Why is that? Because we have the final four, the same final four as the bubble.
And you didn't mention that on one day. I actually saw that stat and was like, Jake will definitely bring this up.
I think it was just so obvious that I assumed you guys would, and I just didn't have it written down. No, you should never assume that.
So bubble real? No. No, no, no.
But I do think that the bubble is where... Shut up, Max.
That's where I fell in love with these nuggets.

Yeah.

Was in the bubble.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So the bubble, parts of the bubble were real to me.

I've got a bubble within a bubble that's real.

Yeah, Jimmy Butler was real.

Jimmy Butler in the bubble was real.

Also, Anthony Davis was real.

Also, the Suns getting sucked off was real.

Yeah.

So there's certain parts of the bubble that were very real. LeBron winning it no anthony davis did anthony davis won it all right uh my cool throne is peacock because it will be streaming exclusively an nfl playoff game just to further prove that streaming live broadcasts are the future so this is happening january a lot of people aren't happy about it.
Well, behind a paywall. But hey, Barstool.tv, we're doing a bunch.
And the NFL is clearly agreeing with that model because they're putting an entire NFL playoff game as a stream. We're not behind a paywall, though.
We are not behind a paywall. But yeah, I mean, it's genius by Peacock and the NFL because we're going to watch.
Everyone's going to want to try to figure it out. It's going to crash.
They better figure that fucking shit out because if it crashes, I'll never forgive them. It might crash.
It also might just... The big problem whenever we talk about streaming is the different variations of the delay that everyone's going to have.
So some people are going to watch it a couple seconds before me. That's going to piss me off.
But yeah, we've done it with Amazon. We did it with Amazon.
We amazon yeah we're ready they've gotten us used to it over the last couple peacock as like an app has sucked so i hope that they figure it out yeah like i try to watch the office all the time it's like buffers and shit all i want on on any one of these streaming apps is just the ability to like swipe up and have the video still playing yes as i go into another app correct and maybe even watch another video in another app while that first video is still playing tnt not having that has been the most annoying thing in these playoffs i hate it i hate it yeah because i want to like when i'm watching a late night game and i'm laying in bed i want to watch the game and scroll twitter yeah i'll scroll twitter and then i'll press play on a highlight from the same game that i'm watching yeah i want to be able to watch the highlight on twitter as I'm watching the other game and maybe something on YouTube at the same time. Is that too much to ask? Right.
And playing a game on Candy Crush. Yeah, get Candy Crush going.
Okay. Good job, Jake.
Thank you. Let's get to our interviews.
We got Brooks Koepka back on the show, and then we have Daniel Rappaport, our colleague, talking about the PGA Championship. Before we do that, PFT, you had an ad.
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Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest.

He is a recurring guest many times.

It's been too long. He did have

a one-day suspension that he appealed

and we took away his suspension.

But it is Brooks Koepka

and he is

calling in live from the PGA

Championship. Brooks, I'll start.
It's just great to see your face. Yeah, I appreciate that.
Yeah, it's good to see you guys. It's been away too long.
I know. So let's start here.
People thought we hated you. We never hated you.
There was a portion of time where you couldn't come on because you might have joined a different golf league. and you do still hate Dave but there's never been beef

between part of my take and Brooks. No, no.
Part of my take and me and Blake are good. I don't even hate Dave.
I just saw Dave like a month ago down, maybe a month and a half ago, down to Celtics game. So we talked, said hi.
I think he was down there with his girl. It was quite fun.
Yeah. He likes to talk some shit.
I love it. Yeah.
You look great, though. You look happy.
We were watching you at the Masters. You played really well those first three rounds at the Masters.
You were awesome. Yeah.
It was fun to watch, though. Reality kicked in.
Well, did reality kick in or did Hank kick in? Because both Big Cat and I had significant we were rooting for you very very hard, I'll put it that way. And then Hank basically put the green jacket on you, in Photoshop at least.
And then some other stuff happened. Yeah, I mean he mushed me.
Let's put it that way. It does suck, but it is what it is.
Now, when you lost to Masters, would you characterize it as a choke? I wouldn't, but some people did. Yeah, I'd characterize that as a choke.
Damn. Yeah, it was pretty bad.
Yeah, I mean, come on. You've got a four-shot lead.
All you've got to do. I was playing good.
I just choked it away, but it's all right.

We'll figure it out.

I don't want to get you in any trouble, but hypothetically, let's say someone on the golf

course is playing slowly in front of you.

You like to play fast.

Does it kind of ruin your rhythm sometimes, hypothetically, if someone was playing slow

in front of you? Yeah, I mean, hypoth right no right um yeah it's it's brutal it was really bad um i think we waited every shot hypothetically uh yeah hypothetically we would have waited every shot uh-huh uh hypothetically we have an interview coming up with dan rapaport after this where we may have suggested to him that in a situation like that uh hypothetically the player that's waiting could just bomb a tee shot into that person and hit him in the ribs like in baseball brush him back a little bit yeah yeah i mean it's a warning shot right yeah hypothetically i think i should start doing that listen hypothetically i think you could give that warning shot probably on live yeah yeah yes yes but you you do seem to be playing really well recently anybody that's followed what you've been doing on the live tour and the masters has seen that how are we feeling going to the pga championship because you i feel like i feel like kepka's guys you know you've got an army that's just waiting to be reactivated behind you. Honestly, I'm hoping this, because this is my good luck charm.
Yes. Last time I came on, I came on to the PGA here.
I mean, part of my take is my good luck charm. So let's take it and roll with it.
Yes. So we also saw Full Swing.
I texted with you about it. I think that episode was good.
Like overall, would you say that was good that people got to see that side of you? Because I was watching it and I was like, look, I know Brooks. I like him.
He's a friend, but seeing like you go through the injuries and the mental side of golf, when you watch it all come out, were you like, this is good that people finally have seen this side of my story. It not all easy and like you know fun yeah I mean it's definitely a different side of what I've probably let on but there's a lot of stuff that wasn't shown it was interesting but at the end of the day I mean like I am who I am I was authentically myself and you know it's like reality tv they can kind of script it how they want to script it yeah i do want to have your back though for one moment uh there was a scene where you were talking to your mom uh in your living room and you looked angry and you text me after that actually that scene happened during march madness and you had just suffered a very bad loss they should have shown that because like someone after a bad march madness loss cannot be judged as a regular human being yeah no absolutely uh you know i literally just couldn't move on i'm sure every gambler knows this i think there was a bit of cleanup that needed to happen before the uh the cameras got there uh yeah wasn't, it wasn't pretty.

I walked into a bad situation.

Yeah.

And you were wearing the triggered sweatshirt, which was so perfect.

Yeah.

I actually, it was funny because I went up and showered and I just put it,

I was so pissed off.

I went up and put the trigger.

It's so perfect.

There was another scene that I thought they did you dirty on.

They showed a lot of interaction with you and your dog and you weren't petting your dog when the camera was on you. And I thought that that should be put in proper context where you were petting your dog that day.
It's just when the camera happened to be on you, it looked like you weren't petting your dog enough. I think that's fucked up to do to a person.
Yeah, of course, right? We're all dog lovers. Yeah, exactly.
What yeah yeah uh so so what's what's changed recently are you just healthier than you've been in the past are you mentally you're feeling better what what's the big was there a turning point uh it's just honestly it was just health man my knee was a lot worse than i've probably let on to a lot of people and it feels good now. It feels really good.
And then the other thing is too, is you get into bad habits. Golf is so like mechanical and all this stuff.
And if you get into bad habits, man, it takes a long time just to get rid of them. So that off season was nice.
I liked that off season. Yeah.
So let's talk about live because you're, you're, you're crushing on live. What, like when you get out there and you're playing in these tournaments, does it feel totally different than playing on PGA like tour golf? Is it like, because we see the clips guys throwing beers, you know, people wearing shorts.
Um, is it, is it just golf at the end of the day? Or is it like a lot of fun? It's, uh, it's pretty bad-ass man. I mean, I mean, I think everybody saw the video of my brother making that hole-in-one with Bert there with his shirt off.
Everybody's chucking beer. My brother said he was soaked in beer, which is awesome.
Yeah, no, it's a lot of fun. I mean, the music's going the whole time.
It's like if you go play with your boys, exactly what it would be like just with fans there. That's cool.
That sounds fun. Yeah, it does sound fun, especially the getting soaked in beer parts.

Sounds awesome.

Yes.

I mean, one thing that I think golf could learn from either if it's live

or if it's the waste management where they have the stadium hole,

golf should have more like stadium-type environments in it

and just let people go eep shit.

Oh, yeah.

It's the best, honestly.

It's way more fun when music's going, right? You do anything. You put music, a bunch of beer, and a lot of people.
It makes for some fun times. Yeah.
Yeah. We asked Dan Rapport, which is coming up after your interview, there was a story that Tiger hit up Rory and was like, hey, I can fix your swing.
If Tiger hit you up, would you go over to his house and let him fix your swing? Or is that something that's like, hey, this is my swing. Don't worry about it.
I don't know what I would do. I don't know.
He's never hit me up to be like, yo, come on over to the house. I don't think I've ever gotten that.
So you'd have to. I don't think I will.
I don't think I will. Yeah.
It might, at this point. Is it weird, though, with the, like, I would assume, and maybe I'm way wrong.
Obviously, the live stuff happened last year. There was a lot of waves.
Now that you guys are, you know, the Masters happened, now the second major, is it just the same in the locker room, or is there any bad blood that happens in the locker room? No. You know what's so funny? There's no bad blood.
Everybody's so chill about it. Everyone understands, right? It's a business at the end of the day.
You look at football, guys are holding out for contracts because they want this. Basketball, same thing.
Everyone gets it. I think it was more media-driven than there is anything.
But everybody's cool with each other. Everybody's still good.
Yeah. Yeah.
Has there been any talk that you've heard about about the PGA Tour letting live players play in more events that they want to play in and not having it be like an exclusive thing? No, I haven't heard anything about the PGA Tour, but I did hear about the Ryder Cup. I think there is a possibility where, I guess, a live player could be playing the Ryder Cup.
It would be fun representing a country. That would be sick.
Yeah. I think on behalf of America, we should make that happen.
Yeah. How does this course set up? Did they try to Brooks-proof this course, or is it a course that you can get out there and attack? They tried, but they failed.
Honestly, today it was blowing like 30. It was brutal today.
It's a fun golf course. They redid it.
It's actually the 10-year anniversary of my caddy. My caddy caddy for me here in 2013.
He showed up 30 minutes late. Rick, I still don't know how he's got the job.
I'm only kidding, but Rick's the best. best.
So, yeah, it's kind of crazy. This is where it all started for us.
I love that. What did you shoot today? I think I shot three over on the front, which wasn't bad.
Honestly, it's blowing. It's impossible out there.
Okay. That feels bad, though.
Yeah, but today doesn't matter. That's the only good part.
Yeah, the lights aren't on yet. I know.
We've got to start on Thursdays. Yeah, major.
Thursdays now, it's a lot different. Can we talk about that real quick? Like, everyone always says during a major, like, for whatever reason, Brooks just is able to turn it on during a major and focus.
Do you still have that mindset? Or coming back from injuries being out of that top level for you know a year or so did you have to start focusing even on the small tournaments that you might not have cared about in the past so that you get yourself in the habit of winning again yeah I think there's a combination of everything there you know when I was when I finally after this offseason I finally was like I got to I got to really step it up. So, yeah, I just the live events I've had to use just to make sure that that I'm ready to come into the majors.
And that's what you use it for. You're just using it for reps.
Right. At the end of the day, all anybody cares about is majors and how many majors you got.
You know, I always ask anybody when they talk about it. It's like how many they know how many majors Jack Nicklaus won, Cary Flair, Arnold Palmer, but they don't know how many events they won total around the world.
That's the benchmark, right? It's the end of the day. It's not how many wins in the regular season did you have.
It's how many Super Bowls you win. Exactly.
Do you feel different on major week? You wake up in the morning and you're like, oh, yeah, my body knows it's a major i wish i wish it was that way uh no i just think right there's more energy going on there's definitely there's way more people it's a lot more intense and i don't know you can tell man i love when everyone gets a little rowdy yeah um you recently announced you're having you're gonna be a father you're having Yes. Yes, a boy.
And I'm just going to say it out there that Blake was definitely thrown around on my side. Yes.
Blake was definitely thrown around. Wait, hold on.
I understood what you just said there because I have thrown out some names. I was trying to name one of my sons Dion.
That got shut down.

But the way you phrase that means that it's not Blake because you said it was thrown out on my side.

That means that was a hard block.

Yeah, I don't know how Jenna felt about that one, but it was blocked.

It was vetoed very quickly.

She's like, I hear enough Blake.

I'm not doing this again.

Yes, yes, yes. So, oh, man, but it was funny was funny yeah so i don't know we haven't figured out a name yet but uh we're working on it okay if you win though if you if you if you win a major you should be able to be like i get to name you know what if i win this week i'll call her when i'm done with this i'll be like if i win this week blake is definitely on the table yes it's blake and whatever else i think that's a fair trade yes and then you can flip a coin yes yeah actually listen yeah we'll do it we'll do the lottery ball machine i actually my son was born on friday and and we were down between two names and i was like why don't we flip a coin and my wife was like are you fucking? I was like, what? That'd be funny if we like, Hey, you're this name.
Yeah. You're this name.
Cause it went tails. Listen, I'll talk to her.
I'll see what I can do. I'll tell her after I get off the phone with you guys.
Yeah. The first ever Blake reveal.
Yeah. Pardon my take.
Yeah. Yes.
I like this. Love it.
I like this. Yeah.
The key to naming your children is you got to to anchor the negotiations at the craziest things possible because then after childbirth newsflash the woman is pretty tired because pretty crazy and then you can be like so yeah maybe just Blake and they're like yeah maybe Blake this is how it works this, I don't know. Yeah, I'll take your advice on it.
Yeah, it's like I said Dion. We could go with Dion or we could go with Blake.
Yeah, you could maybe also, dude, anchor it even further with a much worse name than Blake. It'd be like the two names I was thinking of was like, I don't know.
What's a bad name? Bryson?

Bryson.

I was thinking either Bryson or Blake.

And then she'll be like, ew, definitely not Bryson.

Or Brandy.

Brandel.

Yeah, Brandel.

Brandel or Blake.

So are you –

We could throw a lot of names into this lottery.

Yeah, there's a lot of names.

Are you – you and Bryson, you guys made amends, right?

Yeah, yeah.

We talked it out.

We hashed it out.

I think with all the Liv stuff, we kind of had to come together.

So we're good.

I mean, yeah.

Brandy's still the same.

I haven't talked to him.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He's the worst.

Yeah.

So there have been people that have accused us of favoring Max Homa over you.

I just want to make it clear.

We love all of our golf children. We love them all.
Do you have any relationship with Max? Yeah, yeah. Max is a good dude.
I like him. I mean, obviously, I don't get to see him anymore with Liv and PGA, but he's a good dude.
He's funny. He's good with the Twitter fingers.
Yeah. Yeah.
There's no jealousy of Max because he's been on the show in the last couple years is there i just want to make sure that all of our children feel loved no we could we're good okay there's still love i got you hey remember um when you got what was it was maybe masters last year when you were injured and your trainer came out and started like rubbing your leg down and stuff that was weird oh yeah that was what was that i remember i think yeah that was a few years ago wasn't it yeah that was it just struck me because we're used to you know we watch sports guy gets injured it's normal like on a football field or or you know basketball court but then when a golfer gets injured and they're like getting worked on you're like what's going on here this is weird yeah yeah golfers are a bit weird anyway so yeah that makes sense yeah um what happened at the masters when your your caddy was very clearly just telling um not the other caddy yeah but the announcing team oh yeah what club what club you chose to hit did you have to be like hey just in the future make sure that you're clearly telling the announcers and not the other caddy you know what it's so funny because if you really if you watch enough golf the uh there's a bunch of tv crews running around there's there's a million people inside the ropes and right all the commentators want to know is what you hit so um usually there's someone standing right beside you um and you got to tell them what you hit. Um, everyone's standing on par threes.

You'll signal to the guy. And then they, uh, so they pulled us in on Thursday and then on Friday,

I guess something was going around on Twitter or something. I didn't see it,

but, um,

I was trying to take my glove off and they tried to tell me that I was

signaling five, uh, to Gary. Um, and it was interesting.

I was like, I don't know how you want me to take my glove off with my fist closed. Like what, what would you like me to do? Right.
Um, and it was interesting. I was like, I don't know how you want me to take my glove off

with my fist closed. Like what, what would you like me to do? Right.
Um, so we got pulled in

two days in a row and it was funny. The best part about it is Gary was like, I had no idea you hit

five because he was like, he was like a club in front of me. He was like, if I knew you hit five,

I'd have hit six and he'd ended up in the water. So he lucked out.
Yeah. We don't worry.
Don't

worry about Twitter. We're, we're policing Twitter.
I was on top of it. I was, I was very much on top

Thank you. He ended up in the water, so he lucked out.
Yeah. Don't worry about Twitter.
We're policing Twitter. I was on top of it.
No, we're good. I was very much on top of it going after people being like, this is ridiculous.
Just a bunch of snitches. Yeah, you got to get in the trenches every once in a while, don't you? Yeah, we were in the trenches.
How far do you crush a drive off the tee when you have that 20, 30-mile-an-hour wind at your back, probably like 350. That's awesome.
Nice. Same.
But yeah, that's awesome for you too. First tee shot today, did that, went right into the hazard.
So good. Have you ever thought about doing driver off the deck? No, I can't do that.
Dude, I'd be terrible. I would look like an average goal.
I would look like everyone else if I did that. I'd be brutal.
I mean, I look i do it so i don't know yeah yeah we gotta play yeah we have a video we're we actually are gonna make it pft and i are gonna make a trip down to uh florida because hank got to play at michael jordan's golf course and we weren't able to do it so we're gonna just do the two of us going down there we probably won't remember there when did he play like a of the round. When did he play? Like a week ago.
We had to work. He got to play golf at Michael Jordan's golf course.
Oh, shocker. Yeah.
He was networking, he said. Must be nice.
Yeah. But didn't invite any of the people that he saw on the show.
Yeah. But he was working.
He was playing with some actual golf pros that we'd love to have on the show, and he did not get us any. Well, Hank, you're actually on right now.
Why't you uh defend yourself yeah yeah I mean I didn't want to uh it was you know the boys were out there playing golf I didn't want to like if if you were if you came out there and some random guy that you didn't know was like bothering you to come on a podcast like it would be annoying so I didn't want to I didn't want to annoy him it was DJ well yeah it was Dustin Johnson he knows what barstool is he knows what part of my take is some podcast yeah he definitely knows i just played with him today i told him i was coming on here yeah he probably was like sick i wish someone would invite me no it was it was i don't know i just didn't want to i didn't want to overstep i didn't want to overstep the boundaries it's a great course i didn't want to get you know i didn't want to get banned forever by being like the guy that was annoying on the course i thought i thought i was being respectful i'm sorry okay yeah sounds like big cat and pft are coming down to the grove come play with me yes fuck yes we are yeah it sounds awesome um that sounds amazing no you're not coming hey yeah i was gonna say if we want a fourth we'll get caleb to come or something yeah exactly exactly that's perfect okay last question actually rowback question promo code take for 20 off your first purchase q-zips polos hoodies joggers shorts uh now that the Florida Panthers are in the conference finals we got to ask you about the traffic cone and what was the story behind that so it was italian night and one of my buddies is italian so we he asked that we dressed up so we had the track suits the hair slicked back the chains everything we had it all going uh we tailgated and i can't remember for the life of me who they were playing um but i had uh the team total under for the other team. Okay.

And I can't remember what it was, but Eckblad gave up.

It was like a bad pass.

And the team total over just happened to hit right after that goal was scored.

A lot of alcohol.

A lot of anger.

Yeah, it wasn't good. I let him him have it where did the traffic cone come from were you just bringing a traffic cone in i i i did not bring it in no uh it was just there it was the first thing i saw um i've been told it's now a pylon okay um so i was I guess incorrect in my verbiage uh yeah i was just i was so i was so mad i'd lost i i basically lost every bet that game and it was just it was a disaster it was looking at it right now uh that's that's definitely a traffic cone i don't know who's telling you it's a pylon it's a that's a traffic cone and uh you said that you were very well hydrated at the game, which I thought was maybe too hydrated.
No, you can never be too hydrated. Yeah.
It was Italian night. Yeah.
I mean, yeah. I was living my best life that night.
Yeah. You can't judge a man on Italian night.
Otherwise, Rick Pitino would be in jail. That's true.
Yeah. Come on.
That's true. You can't do that.
They also shouldn't have had a traffic cone up there for you to grab. That's entrapment.
Yeah. That's again, that's anti-Italian discrimination as far as I'm concerned.
Yeah. I was surprised there wasn't more I'm surprised the peas didn't dog me after screwing up Augusta with some kind of p some kind of pylon something.
Oh yeah. I would have, I would have, that would have been great.
Yeah. So they should have dogged me.
Yeah. Are you rooting for the Panthers? Yeah, of course.
Yeah. Okay.
Got the peas. We got a, we got, uh, we got a season ticket.
So we get a box down there. Me and my boys, we always go down.
It's a load of fun. Stay well hydrated and have a good time.
I love it. time i love it i love it um all right well brooks we will talk to you on sunday night let's just put it into it sunday night yeah put it out in the uh in the orbit we'll just we'll talk to you on sunday night it's gonna be great you're gonna fucking crush it this weekend and uh it was great seeing you it's good we got to get you in person sometime soon again i love it i know i think uh i might actually actually be in New York City here in like a month and a half, so I'll pop by.
We're moving to Chicago, so you'll just have to do it in Chicago. That's fine.
We come to Chicago in like a month and a half, too. Perfect.
A lot of golf courses out there. Let's fucking go.
Easy. Yeah.
I'll have to give you some lessons. Yeah, you should let us caddy for you on one of the practice rounds.
Yeah. I think the Pro-Am days we'll play okay set it up can we can we do a pro-am where it's it's like all of us as your am and we just do alternate shot yeah we can do whatever we want yeah golf but louder yes exactly all right thanks so much brooks we'll talk to right.
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And now for now for something completely different okay we now welcome on a very special guest it is our colleague daniel rapaport from uh foreplay barstool sports he is a golf writer he in a former life he was a big j journalist journalist he is still that he's he's calling live from Oak Hill. The press tent, I believe, is what you got going on.
Yeah, I believe it's the media center these days. They're trying to keep up with the time, so it's the media center.
But, yes, this is the press tent. Okay, so you're at the course.
We want to do a PGA Championship preview with you live from the course. Let's start with just a quick back story for people who don't know you watch full swing you actually saw him uh on full swing he was one of the journalists but can you give people just a quick like 30 seconds here's who i am and how i got to barstool yeah 30 seconds uh huge nerd uh went to northwestern like all the rest of the nerds uh worked at sports illustrated just kept being a huge to Golf Digest, got a little bit somewhat less nerdy, started doing some cool stuff, became friends with the Foreplay guys who you guys might think of as nerds, but are pretty cool trailblazers in the golf space.
About six months ago, they asked me to join and do something new and make a bunch more money and write less. So it was like, yeah, let's do it.
Have you thought about bringing back the thing where people just run each other over in golf carts? Foreplay was, they were at the bleeding edge of that technology back in 2016. They were trying to get it shut down.
They were trying to stop a good time. You know, the videos, they still hit.
You watch someone get hit full speed with a golf cart, and it's funny every single time. They always cut right after, because you don't know if the guy is like okay or on the ground, but when they cut right after, it's perfect.
No, they're all dead. Everybody that was in those.
It was multiple homicides on golf courses. When that whole thing happened, it was so perfect because I was like, I don't condone this and I don't want people to do it.
But if you show me the video, I will laugh every single time. It's an undefeated formula.
Running over an unsuspecting friend with a golf cart. I don't any downsides to it at all you also buried the lead here so i mean you were on full swing full swing and people saw you uh last year you're also matt fitzpatrick's best friend yeah uh yeah you know it's that was my claim to fame for a really long time was i was the guy who was just always talking about matt fitzpatrick he became really good which was really good for my career um so it worked out nicely that's like brian windhorse lebron or amand michael jordan yeah that's perfect you gotta hit yourself you gotta hit yourself to the right wagon that's part of that's that's part of life so do you like actually from a journalist perspective do you have to disclose whenever you're writing about him maybe not now at barstool but in the past would you have to be like, hey, we're actually best friends? Yeah, I'd usually try to put in

a line like, oh, we go way back. We became friends in college well before.
I knew he was a hell of a

golfer, so I would be lying if I said it wasn't like a, hey, I know who you are. Let's be friends.

But we go way back. So yeah, I would write something saying, but at Barstool, there's

really no rules. And that's something that I'm learning in general at Barstool is there's just really no rules just make good content and uh i like it a lot there's one rule yeah there's one there is one rule i think we were all reminded of that last week i was i was actually told that when i signed the contract there's there's about one rule no bone thugs no bone thugs well crossroads i think crossroads is relatively clean yeah but it's we're What day is it today? It's May 17th.
This will air. So you're good.

So I want to talk about the golf course. Oak Hill in Rochester, south of Buffalo, western New York, seems like a beautiful course.
Can you just give me the Reader's Digest version of things? Because we do root for the golf course when it comes to major tournaments. Can you give us some examples of things that we should be on the lookout for, things that we should be rooting for when it comes to the course dominating the players this week? Yeah, well, the golf course is coming with a new set of tools.
It's been completely redone. In 2019, it opened.
It's one of these old courses that opened in the golden age of golf architecture, which is like the 1920s. This guy, Donald Ross, who's a very famous architect, built it.
It had been kind of changed throughout the years. There's a big trend in golf courses these days where you have new guys, new architects coming in.
They find old plans from the original golf course, and they basically slash down a ton of trees, build new bunkers, and make it look like it did in the 20s. So this course looks...
They had a major in 2013, the PGA Championship here, but it's been completely redone. There's three new holes.
The guys are saying it's very difficult. The guys are saying the rough is very long.
The bunkers, the fairway bunkers, you got to stay out of. So if you want a rooting for the golf course this week, which I totally support, I would root for as many balls as possible to end up in those fairway bunkers because they are very penal.
Okay. So, and then how long is this golf course? Is it longer than normal? Is it bigger? Let's talk about the size.
Yeah, the size is sizable for sure. Major championship golf courses these days are usually in the kind of 7,300 to 7,600 yards.
This one's not quite as long as like a Shinnecock or a Kiowa because it's not quite so firm. It's not late in the summer where it's super baked out.
It's firm, but it's not as firm as you might see like in the british open so the balls won't be rolling quite so far so it's not quite as long as the longest ones you've seen but it's definitely not small okay so it sounds like it's long but uh not girthy right and it gets the job done fairly narrow yeah it definitely gets the job done you know it's definitely long i wouldn't say it's it's like overwhelming with its size but it's definitely long and narrow okay yeah okay it's a good solid golf course it's like a chill it's like a chill size yeah i mean it's a it's a chill size boyfriend golf course yeah yeah it's like you listen you're not you're not going to finish and be like wow that was borderline painful but it's it's a chill size all right i like that uh the other big storyline i've been reading a a lot about is the live golfers. So Phil took some personal time for, was it the last PGA championship? And just said, I'm going to lay low for the good, for the benefit of the event.
And just kind of take some time off here. But there's a lot of golfers that at the Masters from the live tour finished like really, really high.
Like in the top 10, it was just a of live guys and um i know hank's rooting for the live tour in general i'm rooting for for the four aces and brooks kepka uh from the live tour which live guy do you think has the best chance of winning this pga championship yeah i love live hank by the way it's a great little bit he's got going on uh i would say brooks i think brooks is back. I know you guys are big Brooks guys.
Just the way he played at the Masters, the way he looked at the Masters, he finally seems to be healthy. He played really solid in the last three live events leading in.
Brooks, as you guys know better than anyone, I think he likes being a little bit of a villain. I think he likes having a chip on his shoulder.
I think he likes walking off the golf course and being like, everyone doubts me. Everyone me.
Everyone thinks I can't do this. And so I like where he's at big time.
Dustin Johnson won last week. So those two on the live tour.
So those two would be the guys that I would highlight. But Brooks is a two-time winner of this event.
He's never missed the cut in 10 career PGA championship starts. He delivers in the majors.
He's got 15 top six finishes in the major championships in his career. I think Major Brooks is back.
I would be, I would not be surprised at all if he won it. So when you're watching golf now with the Liv Tour, and you mentioned Dustin Johnson won last week, how do you translate that to PGA Tour success where it's like, we know Jon Rahm and Scotty Scheffler have been red hot, have been winning.
I think Jon Rahm, what, has won four times already this year. Do you count the lift? You can't count the lift towards exactly the same as a win, but, like, so how do you look at that and see what Dustin Johnson did and be like, how does that translate to what you expect from him this weekend? Yeah, it's a great question.
I think the Masters went a long way toward answering that question. Before, we had no idea.
There was this narrative within golf, which, in hindsight, is pretty silly, that is like, oh guys went to live they're just maybe they suck now maybe they all suck in like you know three months they decided oh we've got all the saudi cash we're just going to be on the boat we're not practicing anymore these guys are competitors they're still the same players that they were uh the world rankings are no longer a really good indicator of of how a guy's playing but there are other ranking systems out there and i'll give data golf a plug because they're great and they do rank live golfers. So to, to give you a little bit of comparison here.
So Dustin Johnson in, in the official world golf ranking, give me a second here to search. This is yeah.
Dustin Johnson in the official world golf ranking is 82nd. Okay.
Cause they don't get points in the live events. He's 19th in the data golf rankings.
So there's different, there's different ways that you can look at it that do factor in, look, they're, they're still really good players. There's only 48 of them in the bottom half are not good.
There are a lot of very bad players on live, but if you're winning live events, you're still beating guys who a month ago, you know, free of the top six, as you guys mentioned of the masters were live guys. So I, I, I view it as, you know, they're winning golf tournaments.
They're confident're confident they're they're checking all the boxes coming into it and there's no reason that a live guy can't win a major which would be very very dramatic so okay so uh that's a great answer it's good to know because i i do see like oh yeah dustin johnson won it's like well does that really count as a win how are we how are we judging this who are competing this weekend who has the best game for this specific golf course yeah it's hard because you know with these majors that aren't augusta they change every year so you the first three days is really learning the golf course we don't have you know a pj tour events you can look back okay for the last five years at riviera you know guy has played well, or these are the stats.

We don't really have anything,

especially because this golf course,

the last time they had a major was 10 years ago,

and it was a completely different golf course.

But it seems to be a place where you've got to be very disciplined.

There's not going to be a ton of birdies.

It's not going to be hitting a lot of balls close.

It's going to be a lot of playing

to the middle of the green,

two-putting,

and kind of playing that discipline,

ruthless, unemotional style. The guy who I really like this week, who would be a bit of a snoozer champion, is Patrick Cantley.
I feel like this, yeah, I know you guys didn't want to hear that, but he stole Tiger's caddy, and I feel like he's going to win his first major this week. So, all right, so I actually had two Patrick Cantley questions that I wanted to ask you.
One is the pace of play. What is the PGA Tour going to do about it? Because it's bullshit.
He is madden maddening to watch and the second was if you could maybe expound on what his joe cava tigers old caddy what that actually does for patrick cantlay is it a huge advantage so the first question is the pga tour will probably do nothing because they have a competitor right now and they are just can't be in the business of pissing off their own players and they just aren't i think they're going to go for the past path of least resistance it's maddening to watch i totally agree the players themselves are frustrated but the ratings are up and at the end of the day if the ratings are up the pga tour can say you know what that doesn't really seem like a big problem you know in baseball there's one ball in play so if the game is slow you got nowhere else to turn in golf they can at least show at least show a bunch of different shots and switch away from Patrick Cantlay and switch back and then switch away and switch back. And he probably still wouldn't have hit yet.
He is very slow, but I don't think anything's going to change because the business is in a good spot and they don't want to piss off players. As far as a new caddy, guys, when they're struggling, often go for a new caddy because it's more just kind of a new voice.
Think about if you had someone walking with you when you worked all week and your product was kind of shitty, your tweets weren't doing so hot, your videos weren't doing well. You're like, you know what? It's not really personal.
I just kind of want someone else by me because we're sucking right now. So it's Patrick Cantley brought in Joe Licata, who is not just caddy for Tiger Woods, he caddy for Dustin Johnson, he caddy for Fred Couples.
He's been around. I think it's a sort of a reminder to himself that this guy who has been Tiger Woods' caddy believes in him.
And I was talking to a few other guys who think it might be really good for Patrick because Joe LaCava is a bit of an alpha personality. And when Patrick's playing slow, I think there are some guys who are hoping that Joe's going to be like, hey, pick it up, kid.
Pick it up. I'm Tiger's caddy.
I'm not afraid to tell you this. Pick it up.
Yeah. What about players? You mentioned baseball.
Why don't the players take matters into their own hands? Like the unwritten rules being violated. And if Cantley's taken too long in the fairway, just hit some drives into them.
Don't yell four. Yeah.
No, you do see guys. Golf's version of that is kind of rolling your eyes.
And you'll see a bunch of guys roll their eyes, which in golf is basically like, you know, a dagger out of someone's back but you guys are guys are annoyed for sure but playing slow is part of tournament golf it's never really been fast out here it's more just there are more cameras now and someone can get a video and put it on twitter and everyone sees that he's taking a really long time but slow play is nothing new and as much as we complain about it i just don't think anything's going to change given live and given that the business is in a pretty good spot it is the most passive aggressive sport it is it's crazy is there a penalty on the books if brooks at the masters had like been like jesus christ this guy's taken six minutes to hit a shot bombed a drive put it right in cantley's ribs and just like you know brushed him back a little bit is there a penalty that that can be enforced on brooks i don't think i don a penalty for hitting someone else. It's definitely frowned upon.
There's a penalty on the books for slow play. You're technically only supposed to get 45 seconds to hit your shot, but if you watch golf, that never happens.
The only slow play penalty that I can ever remember them handing out is, I don't know if you guys remember this, they handed it out to a 14-year year old guy in the Masters name Tin Lang Guan and that was they chose to make an example out of the

14 year old for slow play and that's it so yeah they don't get penalized and they just you know

they're gonna I don't blame the players they're gonna do what they feel like makes them play

better and for them playing slow makes them play better it's the tour's fault for not enforcing it

you know what memes we should get into the fake news business let's make a super cut of Patrick

Cantlay and just like stitch together every single second of him not hitting a shot and be like

Thank you. Tours fault for not enforcing it.
You know what memes? We should get into the fake news business. Let's make a super cut of Patrick Cantlay and just like stitch together every single second of him not hitting a shot and be like, look how long it took him to hit this one shot and have it be like two and a half minutes.
No, yeah, we should do the, there's that famous clip of Jose Altuve hitting a inside the park home run and they were like showing, when the pitch clock was coming along, they were showing how many times he he went around the bases yeah between a pitch we should do a jose atuve how many home runs did he hit between patrick can't leave hitting a shot yeah but then have it be like two minutes yeah like really really select some some good video inside the park maybe do some in slow-mo yeah there is some like movement because obviously baseball has instituted the shot clock and i think or the pitch clock. And I think it's been a big success.
There has been some rumors. Why don't we do that in golf, which I think would be objectively hilarious if at the end of the pitch clock, it just went.
Yeah, yeah. Like if the guy's in the middle of his back swing, it's like, well, we gave you we gave you 45 seconds.
I do like the idea of drilling someone, but it also is fun that that I never really thought about it. But golf like instead of, you know instead of brushing a guy back it's just you have to sigh when you see him and then they sigh back.
You like point to your watch sometimes they'll look at the camera and I think Brooks did that a couple years ago and that was big time. That was thrown at someone's head.
I was throwing a 99 mile an hour fastball at someone's head. Just looking at at the watch.
Looking at a watch. Okay, so Jon Rahm and Scotty Scheffler.
Jon Rahm has been fantastic. Does it really feel like they are separated from everyone else by that big of a margin? Yes, I would say yes.
Rory was kind of the number three for a little while, but Rory missed the cut at the Masters. He missed the cut at the Players' Championship.
We just had his press conference an hour ago. He's done talking about Live Golf.
He was the guy who was at the podium answering all the questions, talking about how the PGA Tour is about legacy and about history and how he was so proud to carry the tour into the future. We just asked him, basically, are you going to stop talking about it? He's like, yeah, I'm done talking about it because I think it's worn on him a lot over the last year.
Trying to be one of the best players in the world and also being in all the meetings and giving all these press conferences. He reads everything.
So seeing all the negativity on social media, Rory's kind of taking a step back. But yeah, I mean, Scottie's got three wins this year.
Rom's got four, including the Masters. I think a win this week, Jon Rom would have five wins already this year.
He'd have won the first two majors. He'll be three quarters of the way to the career grand slam.
And I do think that those two have separated themselves, but I think it's also, I think Rahm is the clear number one right now. I think Rahm is clear number one.
Scotty is clear number two. And then there's a big gap between everyone else.
Counterpoint though, didn't Tony Finau just stare down Jon Rahm in Mexico? Yeah, he did at the Mexico Open at Vidanta, which was like a resort course. Yes, he did.
I don't think that that's, you know, it's basically a different sport from major championship golf. But yeah, Tony's turned into a winner after like seven years of why does this guy never win? I think he's won five in the last like 20 months.
So Finau's definitely playing at a top five level this year. I also saw a quote that was going around regarding Rory McIlroy, that if you're not, you can't root for Tiger because he's not playing this weekend.
However, Tiger saw Rory playing at Quill Hollow and called him and was like, hey, I see something in your swing. And then Rory spent last Friday at Tiger's house getting coached up to fix his swing.
Is that true? I believe that is true. That was reported by Eamon Lynch, who's Northern Irish.
He's good pals with Rory. It's kind of a frowned upon thing, as you guys might know, in golf to give unsolicited swing advice.
That's the only thing that ever happens on the internet, though. Yeah.
Yeah. You post your swing and everyone's like, oh, this, that, and the other.
Or you're playing golf and some guy comes up to you and goes, you know, I really think you should slow it down and you want to kill that guy. I think Tiger Woods reaches out to you and says there's something that I'm seeing.
Maybe just maybe like you'd violate that rule. No, that's a beta move.
It would ruin Tiger wants to fix my swing. I decline.
It would ruin all of my private teaching. Yeah, no, no, no.
I'll never let another man teach me. I don't think Brooks would have gone over.
I don't think Brooks would have gone over there. I think Brooks would have said all right.
Thank you. Thank you for your advice, but I'm not doing it.
But Rory, you know, these guys like worship Tiger. He's the reason they're so rich.
So anything Tiger says they is like gospel.

Okay. So while we're talking about Tiger, we are the number one Charlie Woods podcast.

He's listening to this right now. No pressure.
Is he going to be a pro?

I'll say yes. I think he will.
He will be a will be a pro. Being a pro in golf is not that difficult.
You guys could say that you're a pro tomorrow. There's no draft.
Anyone can become a professional golfer. But the spirit of the question obviously being will he, yeah, I think he'll make a run.
I mean, all signs point to him being definitely like a Division I level player. And he'll get a chance.
He'll definitely get sponsored invites. That's for sure.
You know, it will definitely be a tournament that says we're going to, we're going to have Charlie Woods playing it. So if he wants to, if he continues to want it, like he's like, he says he does.
There was a video that dropped last week with a tiger was talking to Colin Morikawa about how Charlie's kind of starting to hit it past him. Now.
I don't think he's beaten him yet over 18 holes, but he's getting there. He's still not 14 years old yet.
So as long as he continues to have this golf bug and as long as Tiger's out for a while and Charlie is kind of, it seems like he's almost living vicariously through Charlie. I do think Charlie Woods will be a pro.
The torch has been passed. I could not believe it when I saw that head cover.
I texted the guy who was counting from that week. I was like, oh, so is that he's like, yeah, he's an enormous fan.
He listens to every single episode. Yeah, you broke that for us.
We should say thank you, a belated thank you. You broke that story.
We are the number one Charlie Woods podcast. It does sound like you're a little bit, a tiny bit of a Charlie hater.
Yeah. You said he could be a Division I golfer.
And he also said, like, oh, he'll get some sponsor exemptions and shit. It sounds like you don't really believe in Charlie.
I think that Charlie can go as high as he wants to. You think Charlie will be number one in the world? Yeah.
Minimum. Yeah.
Maybe higher. Our golf rankings, data golf, PMT golf, we have Charlie Woods number one, Jon Rahm two.
Number one in the universe is more like it for Charlie. Forget the world.
I guess in my old job, I was kind of wary about not trying to put pressure on kids, but screw it, right? He's going to be number one in the world. No, we're not putting pressure on him because whatever he does, this is our promise to Charlie Woods, again, who's listening right now, we will spin zone it as a win.
So even if he doesn't make it to the PGA Tour, we'll be like, yeah, he realized that it wasn't enough competition for him. Yeah.
I think you guys need to show up to his first college event and just heckle all the other kids. Yes.
Well, like you said, golf is easy pro like if charlie could go pro and we're gonna root for him but if charlie decides that he wants to do something else with his life we're gonna support him no matter what we care about charlie was the person right in addition to charlie was the golfer yeah he's got it so he'll be number one in the world in whatever pursuit that he ends up wanting to he's a winner it's honestly weird though that you're putting all this pressure on charlie to become a division one golfer right i think that charlie's great no matter what he decides to Mm to fulfill. He's a winner.
It's honestly weird, though, that you're putting all this pressure on Charlie

to become a Division I golfer.

Right.

I think that Charlie's great

no matter what he decides to do.

Okay.

Yeah, he'll go pro in the game of life.

Correct.

He'll work in Enterprise.

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Number one employer of D1 athletes.

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Okay, we got to talk about our friend Max Homa.

So, some people, not us,

but some people are saying, when is Max going to make a run in a major again not us what would you say to those people yeah to those people I would say you're asking a very fair question because you know it's not just that he wins PGA Tour events but he does it on hard golf courses he's won at Riviera which is hosted majors in the past will probably host majors in the future he's won at Qu won at Riviera, which is hosted majors in the past. We'll probably host majors in the future.
He's won at Quail Hollow, which hosts president's cup and majors in the past. He's won at Torrey Pines where Tiger won.
And then he comes to the majors and I still, I think his best finish is a T14 last year. It doesn't really make sense.
You would want to say that it's sort of some sort of mental block, but Max is too smart and too good at the mental side of golf for it to be a thing. So it's going to happen one of these weeks.
It's a small sample size. You only get four chances per year.
Max sucked until like three years ago. So he's really only had eight to 12 chances where he's playing like this.
But if it continues after this year, I think we get to the point of like, do we need to do some sort of voodoo ritual to snap him out of this? Because he's too good of a player and his record is too good at hard golf courses to continue to be so barren at the majors. So what's the success for him this weekend? Top 10? Top 10.
Top 10. I mean, what is he, number six or seven in the world? At a certain point, you got to perform where your ranking says you are.
Making the cut is no longer a success for Max Homo in a major championship. He's just not that guy anymore he's i said you know he's playing i just saw him playing a practice run with justin thomas like that's he's a list he's an a-lister in golf right now and if you're going to be a true a-lister you have to deliver on the four weeks where guys like me are coming on podcasts like this and people actually care you said it yourself maybe max is too smart maybe maybe he like his brain works at a level where he does start to second guess himself so maybe he just needs to get dumber we gotta concuss him or he's gotta smoke a lot of weed we gotta concuss a man smoke some weed it's not a crazy thought like i've always thought that being really smart and cerebral in golf is is not a benefit that's why some of the best players in the world yeah some of the best players in the world i think there was a you know shameless plug for full swing but there was moment in full swing where Brooks Koepka was like, all right, who's playing the best in the world right now? Scotty Scheffler.
I bet you Scotty Scheffler is not thinking about anything. And then they panned to Scotty Scheffler and he's like, yeah, I'm just out there playing golf.
There's so many things that can go wrong in golf. There's so many factors to consider that if you're sitting there and you're thinking about this, that, and the other, it can be paralyzing.
And bubble watson or dustin johnson they're like i'm just gonna go up there and hit my fucking cut and hope it goes in the fairway that's a great attitude to have yeah i i would agree i would say that golfers and like kickers in football you want your kicker to be dumb as shit so they don't overthink anything now it's interesting because you were you were saying that uh max until three years ago. I wouldn't use that word, but in golf journalism, I feel like every golf writer or anybody that covers a sport is also a golfer themselves.
It's a little bit different from other sports. So is it harder for you to criticize players because you play the sport and you realize how much better than you they are at the sport that you love to play um sort of i'm a i i'm a decent player which i think helps and i think having played on camera these guys know that i'm a decent player i definitely think that there are some people in this room i won't name names i'm looking right at them but i won't name names who don't play golf at all can't break 100 and then they they get up there and they talk about you know what a guy needs to do to win a major which i think is you know it's a it's sort of laughable um but yeah it is definitely a different a different aspect and i think it's one of the reasons why so many of the announcers the guys like smiley kaufman guys like colt are former players because definitely professional golfers respect guys who can actually you know break 100.
i think that's kind of a prerequisite was it brand brandley chamblue was it frank the tank no i love frank the tank i'm obsessed with frank he's a lot of any athlete yes he was calling was he calling vogel back he was like a fat fuck um yeah i don't know i i uh i'm not gonna say who i'm staring at brando chambl won a PGA Tour event. People forget that.
I certainly didn't. I will remain forgetting that.
Yes, he did. I will remember that forever.
It wasn't a big one. It wasn't a big one.
It was pre-live era, but he won a PGA Tour event. So asterisk.
Yeah. Okay, so give us a long shot.
Give us a couple long shots. Yeah.
Ricky Fowler is back in the mix. Ricky's back ricky's back in the top 50 i think he's been in top 20 i believe it's like nine of his last 10 starts um so he's quietly working his way back there i really like the way he's playing i really like the way he's putting he went back to his old swing coach butch harman who's a very famous swing coach worked with tiger woods and phil nicholson in their heydays.
So I like him a lot. And then this is

not, I wouldn't say necessarily

a long shot, but Jason Day

who won last week. These are some names

that probably bring you guys back to 2015,

2016, but he's having a resurgence

as well. He won last

week. He's putting the ball unbelievably

well. And he's finally got his vertigo

under control. His back's not hurting him.

People forget, but in 2016,

Jason Day had a historically

great year. His ceiling is very high.
So

Thank you. well and he's finally got his vertigo under control his back's not hurting him but you know people forget but in in 2016 jason day was had a historically great year his ceiling is very high so two guys that are you know sort of outside the top five favorites i would say ricky fowler and

jason day interesting okay what happened with ricky what if you were to put a label on why

ricky's game broke down because he was you know rider cup he was he was in that group of the next

guys to kind of take golf into the next generation and then he kind of fell off for a few years what's

Thank you. Ricky's game broke down because he was you know Ryder Cup he was he was in that group of the next guys to kind of take golf into the next generation and then he kind of fell off for a few years what's what's been the problem with him and do you think he's fixed it yeah his putting used to be his strength he worked so much on his swing changes throughout the years trying to we don't want to get too super technical he was trying to get the club a lot more up and like kind of a less behind him uh and he was working so much on that that that his putting went really poorly.
And then with Ricky, it's hard not to address the fact that he does about 30 sponsor days a year where he's filming commercials and he's out there with people. I don't know that that caused his downfall, but he's always been a guy who's had a lot of interest outside of golf and has done a lot of commercials and a lot of other things.
And maybe when it's it's harder when you're you know a tenth of the year you're out there yeah like bank or mayfield shoulders yeah with like mercedes benz but you know he's back now i think i think he realizes that he's those those deals are going to dry up unless he continues to play good golf so golf seems to be the focus again and he's playing really nicely okay uh this has been great dan uh i got one last question it's a rowback question rH-O-B-A-C-K.com. Use code TAKE for 20% off your first purchase.
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Okay, rowback question. Sunday night, PGA Championship is finished.
What is the story that would shock you the most coming out of Sunday night? Give us a headline. Live golfers dance on 18th green with Greg Norman in triumph.
Okay. Shirt shirtless Greg Norman.
There was some talk that they were all going to party on the 18th green if one of them won the Masters, which would have been really funny watching them try to navigate through an army of green jackets who would have formed a physical barrier because they were not about to let that moment be taken from them. But the PGA Championship is a little loosey-goosey.
I wonder if Phil's not making a run, if Greg's not up there shirtless hooting and hollering on the 18th green.

I would love that.

Golf needs something like that.

A rivalry is good.

If you look back at the wrestling, the Monday Night Wars of the late 90s, having a rival

league, it's going to be good for both the PGA and for the Live Tour. The ratings are up on the PGA Tour.
Golf's never been hotter. The players always ask us, why do we talk about Live so much? It's like, well, because it's great for business.
It's been amazing for us. It's boring to talk about birdies and bogeys, but you get to talk about Saudis and loyalty and betrayal and bribery.
And it's just a completely different thing that's been a wild ride for two years. Yeah.
My last question, are you dimple head like us? Do you wake up early in the morning and you see where the pin placement is going to be? Are they going to put that graphic out for us? And if they do, what's the one pin placement that you've got your eye on on a particular hole? Like on Sunday, if the pin's here, you better back left pin on the par three i believe it's 15 um if it gets firm and baked out uh it's going to be a disaster not a disaster but it will be there'll be some drama on that hole on sunday i forgot to ask what's what's the hardest hole on the course um i would say probably 18 okay 18 is a bear up the hill kind of similar it honestly reminds me a little bit of of the 18th hole last year at southern hills if you remember mito perera had a lot of trouble with that hole um so yeah you're gonna have to make a really good four at the last probably to win the tournament so 18 i would say is the toughest okay i like that i like that um i love whenever like it gets a little bit tougher so then you can have guys maybe hang around a little bit more who are in the clubhouse with a score and be like, well, they got to get through this. That makes for great theater on Sundays.
They have to watch the tiny TV like the R. Kelly-sized TV.
Because some courses, it gets easier. It's like, well, they'll just pick up a few strokes right here.
But if it's a gauntlet down the stretch, that always makes it fun on sunday i think it's fun when birdies matter i mean jt was seven back last year and came back to win that doesn't like you said that doesn't happen on a pillow soft golf course where everyone's shooting six under so i like a little bit of variance as well birdies matter this year i like it that's a good birdies matter um all right well dan thank you so much also uh congratulations on finally uh saying hi to me when you saw me in the neighborhood. I didn't say congratulations on your newborn, though.
I just said hello. Yeah, you just said hello.
Well, I think it might have been before. But yeah, he Dan lives like a block away from me.
And there's been a couple of times where I've seen him and he just keeps walking because he's like, I don't want to bother him. It's like, dude, we work together.
So he finally he finally mustered up the courage to be like, hey, what's up? And I was like, hey, what's up was like i made a point i was like hey hey like i was saying hello so it was nice so it's good so we've taken our relationship to the next level where we can actually say hello to each other on the street it's it's nice it's a big step yeah all right man thanks so much everyone follow him uh all weekend he'll be at the the course and appreciate you coming on. Thanks, guys.
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So they launched it in 1994, the George Foreman Grill. And it was doing $200 million a year by 1998.
George Foreman was getting paid so much. He said he was getting paid upwards of $8 million a month for royalty fees.
His royalty fees were so crazy that george foreman the grill makers had to buy him out for a lump sum for 138 million dollars in 1999 there's a lot of money i i love that uh well my favorite part of going to college was getting a george foreman grill in my dorm if you had one of those in your dorm room you were a king you could grill out in your room george was George was a legend. Still is a legend.
Also, one of the best parts about the George Foreman Grill, they actually offered it to Hulk Hogan, and he decided to do a meatball maker instead. Oh, yikes.
So talk about sliding doors. But back to this movie.
Awesome movie. Boxing movies are the best.
The Ali scenes were incredible. Rumble in the Jungle.
Like'm like iconic iconic stuff uh my biggest takeaway was like he's basically the forrest gump of boxing yeah it was like the beginning of his career was ali and joe frazier and then the end of his career was holyfield and he thought at one point that he was going to be fighting mike tyson which is just an insane insane lapse of type That is such a big time period. The fact that he was prime time winning championships against Joe Frazier and then was, you know, fighting Evander Holyfield, almost beat him.
And then was, you know, talking about just the fact that he was even talking about potentially fighting Mike Tyson. That seems like a hundred years difference.
And don't forget the 1968 Olympics and winning the Olympic gold. And like, you know, he got, he showed it in the movie, holding up the American flag because there was protests in that Olympics.
But yeah, you're right. That's a perfect way to put it.
He was the Forrest Gump of boxing, just spanning decades and being fantastic. And his, the way he boxed, the fact that he had that punch, I was actually thinking about it because oftentimes when i think about like historical sporting events i'm like who would i have bet on uh because i think ali was like a three or four to one underdog in the rumble in the jungle i definitely would have been on george foreman because i've been like how could like his punches are so strong so much bigger he's so much bigger he and i would have i would have been like we're winning this fight as ali's doing rope yeah oh yeah you're like this you would consider that to be like a bad beat yeah though in retrospect it was just a strategy that paid off big time i would have been live lining it yeah george foreman minus a thousand easy he's killing him double down he can't get off the ropes uh he was 76 and 5 in his career record that's crazy it's insane that he had 81 career fights in a boxing ring.
Also classic. That was, you know, in the movie when they were talking to his, the guy that he trusted to do his investments.
He was like, how are the investments going? And the guy was like, oh, they're in super safe stocks. That you knew was going to be wrong.
And then later in the movie, it's like, you know, can I get the money? They're like, the money's all gone. They were all high risk gamb gambles.
And it's all gone. He's 74 right now.
He could still kick my ass for sure. Oh, dude, that punch.
The power in his punch is fucking insane. But yeah, this movie was awesome.
Any sports movie, boxing movie, the best recreating legendary fights. So check it out.
Big George Foreman. You can rent it or buy it or buy it and it's also in theaters big george foreman yeah what's he done that no no uh by the way before we do guys on chicks max had a hell of a day yesterday uh people were coming at him online people were making a lot of comments he looks like this guy he looks like that guy i did screenshot one comment that i wanted to share it was very i got one too i got a great one from the instagram yeah oh it might be the same one let's bring them all out so this person said shout out brett hennig uh he said max looks like an insanely passionate american sushi chef who left his family to be in toky and came back with nothing.
Oh, so good. Just nailed it.
I gotta say, Max, it's grown on me a little bit. I like the people that said Max.
I think it was like the YouTube comment. It was like, Max looks both terrifying, but pulls it off at the same time yeah yeah it kind of looks it kind of looks

natural on you and when you put your hair down you kind of look like a troll doll remember those troll dolls that looks nice yeah that sounds nice yeah we have uh max's pawn shop pawn shop merch available now i don't know if you guys saw those shirts yo they're probably sold out by now it's like we're not gonna sell any of them i was like not with that attitude you look like jay and silent with Bob at the same time.

It's great.

It's great.

It was. Listen.
Do you want to talk about the setup? Sadness sells. What? What you did to him? Oh, wow.
Tune into PMTV. So people saw the photo shoot pictures.
Tune into PMTV. You heard Max bitching about the photo shoot on Sunday night,

bad-mouthing our merch team.

I defended them because maybe I knew a little more than he knew at that moment.

But yeah, PMTV has the photo shoot. Thank God we did the photo shoot.

Those pictures were incredible.

Thank God.

I was actually thinking the same thing.

Imagine if those pictures didn't exist.

That was a productive photo shoot.

Father's Day merch coming on sale soon. Thursday, 10 a.m., I believe.
Sort up arselessports.com. There you go, Jake.
Sure, Jake. Yeah, that's why we did it.
That's exactly why it happened. That was why it was productive.
I saw one Photoshop that I didn't care for particularly, and that's just somebody took the soul patch on the bottom lip, and just moved it to the top lip and it is a wide soul patch and it it looks like the h-man you got an upside down h-man yes so do you that's true yeah what's more concerning is just people that uh i've had a couple people that don't even realize that i have a soul patch until after they talk to me for like 15 seconds. Well, you got the chin going now, too.
No, no, I shaved. We told you that was going to happen.
Yeah, so I was talking to KB outside. I talked to him for like four minutes, and he's like, oh, yeah, you got the soul patch.
It just looks so natural on you that I didn't even think, and that's concerning to me. Yeah.
I want to say I would have been as good of a sport, but I wouldn't have been. No, Max has been a great sport.
love him and uh we're soul brothers yeah he's he's just had a really bad stretch of sports sadness that we've been able to monetize greatly i also think the soul batch patch bet is gonna stick like we'll have to do another one yeah what do you point who do you guys have on your mount rushmore of soul patch havers max has got got to be on there right now. I would say- Howie Mandel.
Howie Mandel. Dealing up.
Mark McGrath from Sugar Ray. Scott Stapp.
Yeah. Scott Stapp from Creed.
Now, Guy Fieri has the bleach Soul Patch. Yeah.
But he's also got the goatee that goes along with it. Yeah.
Just one of those days. Oh, Fred Durst.
Fred Durst. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Fred Durst is up there yeah it's been great it's been great

and max went to the gym so he's looking better yeah you look great max he's shaking his head

he's what the roommate what the roommate what's your girlfriend's roommate thing

i hate everybody i hate everyone in this room people like the episode max the numbers were

crazy yep you're numbies guy you're a numbies numbies yeah one thing about max almost

Thank you. in this room.
People liked the episode, Max. The numbers were crazy.
Yep. You're a Numbies guy.
You're a Numbies guy. Numbies.
Yeah. One thing about Max.
Almost got the 10K on Instagram. Let's go.
Okay. Here we go.
Everyone follow him. What's your Instagram handle? CM Delente.
What's the C for? That's my first name. I'm just kidding.
It's like punk, except Delente. Yeah.
Yeah, CM Delente. Yeah, that's what I was going for.
Yeah. I would have to think probably the two biggest episodes we've done in the past six months are post-Super Bowl.
Yeah. His sadness, we basically are using it as a renewable energy source.
Max's sadness. We've channeled Philly's losses.
We're Bitcoin mining with Max's losses. All right.
Guys on chicks. Hey, boys.
My husband doesn't put on deodorant before working out. For context, he works out alone at home in the morning and then just showers right after.
Okay. Yeah.
I find it weird that he doesn't put on any deodorant beforehand, but he explains that he's still going to sweat and just shower right after, so it's a waste of deodorant. Facts.
Yeah, that's a fact. Facts.
I find this weird, again, since I put on deodorant no matter when or where I'm working out. Is it just a normal guy thing or am I on the right? Also, congrats to Hank on the lottery ball.
Some people graduate college in the amount of time it took him to correctly pick one number, but congrats still. That's true.
Not Stensive Bennett. Also, this girl is a helicopter girlfriend.
Yeah. Who cares when your boyfriend puts on deodorant as long as he doesn't smell bad.
Yeah, and we won't get into the conversation about how soap doesn't work on armpits. Also, deodorant's trying to poison us, right? Fresh sweat cleans it out.
Well, soap doesn't work on armpits, but as long as you put on deodorant after you shower, who cares? I said we're not going to get into that,

but yeah, I agree.

Because if we did, we'd go around in circles again.

Why doesn't anyone dunk from the freezer?

This guy is an idiot,

or this girl is an idiot, because nobody puts on deodorant

just to work out by themselves.

If you go to the gym,

I can see maybe being a good gym citizen.

You might not want to stink it up in front.

Maybe, but I would also understand not putting on... It's like you don't brush your teeth before you drink orange juice right that's like putting on deodorant before you work out it's actually if he were to put on deodorant before going to a gym i know you said home gym but say he was going to a gym that would be a sign he's cheating on you yeah yeah why are you putting on deodorant before you're going to get sweaty yep i also just think that that level of monitoring on too much deodorant is just too much yeah let the guy live too much agreed your buzz kill uh my fiance never wants to pee with the bathroom door open he thinks that's a sacred time only for him however he feels completely comfortable taking a dump with the door open for me to see he even does it when his guy friends are over and even when my best friend is over.
I feel like that's really weird. That is.
Thoughts PMT crew. He pees with his, he pulls down his pants all the way when he pees.
He's one of those guys. That is weird to do one or the other.
Shout out to Playboy Marty after he did that in the bathroom here the other day. It was wild to walk into.
He like just ass out. Not even joking? Just ass was out.
It was, like, after one of the streams, so it was late night, and I'm blowing up his spot, but it was... I got a chuckle out of it.
Didn't say anything to him after. I'm just saying it now.
It always plays. On the podcast.
It's always a laugh out loud thing when you see a grown man. That's incredible.
Wait, did he do this a joke? No, it was like midnight. I don't think he...
You know, it was probably five people here total. When I just walked in the bathroom and just cheeks out.
Cheeks out. Oh, my God.
Pants on the floor or pants on the leg? No, pants like kind of, you know, pushing the booty up. Like, just as, you know, right below the ass.
It would have been funny if he had like pants on the floor and then he was doing the thing where he's like also holding his shirt up. Yeah, that's how my son yeah yeah yeah that is start doing that that's weird to do the close the door for the pee and not for the shit one nice thing about having kids is i don't think i've taken a shit my house without at least one of my kids trying to have a full conversation six inches from my face yeah that's fun there's something that's really fun there's something wrong with this guy i think yeah this is this is strange behavior yeah yeah something he's really fun.
There's something wrong with this guy, I think. Yeah.
This is strange behavior.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He's doing something weird.

What if he thought he could only pee if he jerked off?

He had to get hard to pee?

Maybe that's it.

Or maybe he's probably doing something in the bathroom that he shouldn't be doing when he allegedly pees.

He's putting his finger up his butt?

Maybe put his finger up his butt. Maybe he's using heroin when he says that he's peeing you should ask him that yeah check his arms this is a good one sup lottery ball winners minus memes damn that hurts my boyfriend and i've not gotten it never got it ever he tried to say he got it before like anyone that says that none of them counts no uh well they did yeah okay my boyfriend and I have one year have both have weddings we are invited to on the same day my boyfriend is his old roommate slash former boss and mine is a childhood friend yeah how do we handle the situation this is the easiest question ever you both go to your weddings and have the best time ever without your girlfriend or boyfriend yeah like if you're in a relationship and then you start going a bunch of weddings there's definitely a point where you're like oh it'd be nice if like i just get fucked up without anyone being like hey why are you all fucked up? Go have fun at this wedding.
It's perfect. It's also weird that his former roommate was also his boss.
Yeah. That sounds like a startup situation.
That's like if Billy lived with Jake. It'd be tough.
That's like when I co-signed Hank's lease. He was my boss.
Yep. Yeah.
Yeah, that was awkward, wasn't it? Yeah it that was really awkward to have an employee i yeah i think going to separate weddings is kind of the dream yes you go to a lot you you guys should actually get two dates oh and just take a night off but no seriously you're gonna end up going to a million weddings they all are the exact same that's the thing with weddings once you start going to them and you get your wedding like late 20s early 30s and you start going to all these weddings and they all just blend together this one will stick out yeah really from the time you're 25 until 35 all of your discretionary income is spent going to weddings yes might as well have some fun just summers weddings uh is that it that's it okay lottery ball how so we got we got some updates right jake we gotta? Yeah, I have to file through, but we had a lot of AWLs. Thanks for reaching out.
And let's get a sponsor, I think. We'll organize it.
I'll send some screenshots to you guys. Okay.
And we'll figure out how to build one. Memes have every time.
Memes. Yeah, get memes.
Go grab memes. I don't know if he's got it.
He's never got it. Go grab him.

Unless he has, and I'm just forgetting.

No, he is not.

Are you sure?

No, he is not.

He's already said he's gotten a lot of tweets about it. I don't know.

Which is great.

I want to double check with him.

Yeah.

Hey, memes.

Hey, memes.

We're about to do the lottery ball.

Just wondering if you ever gotten it.

I haven't.

Oh, really?

Oh, no.

Really?

Yeah, I'm afraid not.

How long have you worked on part of my take?

This is about to be two years coming up. Oh.
But we've been doing this that whole time. Yeah, haven't been in the room.
Yeah, but you've never even gotten it, the number that you wanted to pick. Like you said for a while, you were going to be number three, and we never got that.
Yeah, and three wasn't even in the machine. Oh, that's a little asterisk.
What is that? That's not an asterisk? No, yeah, that's on me.

Yeah.

Bicking a lot.

Balls that aren't.

All right, well, numbers.

16.

17.

18.

26.

8. 6.

If Hank gets 26, I'd be sick.

What was your number?

Every number would be picked.

Memes?

1.

That would not be sick, Jake. Five So close Third time Third time Five You're never gonna get this memes It's fucked up No you're never gonna get it Everyone what's Just shout out your socials real quick At Pardon my meme On Twitter I believe it's Let me find it find it.
I was going to be Instagram. You're going to say like two, three, five.
Yeah, that's six, five. That's what I thought you were saying.
Underscore pardon my meme on Instagram if you want to share me there. All right.
Okay. Shout out your socials and your mother's maiden name.
Yeah. At pardon my meme.
Yeah. Never gotten it.
He's literally never gotten it. May 27th, 2021.
Wow. First number five.
Wow. He's never gotten it.
That's crazy got it 2021 see everyone on Friday

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8 million I'll be gone

With the world's dream

You don't mind me

8 million

I'll be gone