JJ Watt, Sixers Get Whomped By The Celtics, Max's Soul Patch Reveal + NBA/NHL Playoffs

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Speaker 1 On today's Pardon My Take, we have JJ Watt in studio, and we have Sixers Celtics Game 7 Max face reveal coming in the first five minutes of the show or so.

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Speaker 1 PFT is uh remote. Hank is already smiling like a motherfucker.
We'll get to the Celtics, they deserve their accolades. Jason Tatum was incredible.
We'll talk some more NBA playoffs, hockey playoffs.

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Speaker 1 Welcome to part of my take. Today is Monday, May 15th, and the Boston Celtics have eliminated the Philadelphia 76ers in a true whomping.

Speaker 1 Hank is smiling ear to ear. Max is about to come in with his face reveal.
But PFT, I'll start with you, obviously.

Speaker 1 Holy shit, they kicked the shit out of him, and Jason Tatum was absolutely sensational.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Jason Tatum rocked tonight. The last five quarters that Jason Tatum has played has been, you know, what? How much credit do we get for spurning Jason Tatum?

Speaker 4 I think the real winner in this series should be us for saying that Jason Tatum is the best player on the court and he needs to get a dog.

Speaker 4 We were dog, we're used dog salesmen, adoption counselors, and we set up a tent outside Jason Tatum's house, and he adopted a dog from us. He's got a dog now.
He's officially,

Speaker 4 Jake, you're kind of like the barometer on this. Is Jason Tatum him?

Speaker 6 I guess the Eastern Conference Finals is the battle for him.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think

Speaker 2 he's a bad guy.

Speaker 1 I think he's more him.

Speaker 1 I do.

Speaker 1 He is an AWL, I assume.

Speaker 1 And our take was very consistent in that I think Jason Tatum is a phenomenal, phenomenal basketball player, top five player.

Speaker 1 There are times when he floats and isn't aggressive, and it drives me insane because

Speaker 1 this is the type of guy that should go and take a series, and that's exactly what he did.

Speaker 1 In the last game six, fourth quarter into game seven, he told everyone on that court, I am the best player here. There is nothing you can do to take this series away from me.

Speaker 1 The MVP is on the other side of the court. It doesn't matter.
This my moment. And he did it, and he completely captured it.
He was like so, so good. He was doing everything.

Speaker 1 I think he had, what, 51, 13, and five.

Speaker 1 It was a hell of a performance. Most points in a game seven,

Speaker 1 which is crazy.

Speaker 1 There was actually a part of me that was worried that he was credit to the Sixers for sucking so bad that he couldn't go for MJ's 63 record in the playoffs because he he could if the Sixers had like been even put up a little bit of a fight and he had stayed in the rest of the game, he was that unconscious for the entire game.

Speaker 1 And he proved that he deserves this stage.

Speaker 1 And it's also nice knowing that after you say, humbly, I'm one of the best players in the world, like you, you know that the spotlight's going to be on you after you say that.

Speaker 1 Because if you come out and you drop like a, say, a Joel and Beat or a James Harden, just throwing a couple names out there, people will roast you.

Speaker 1 He did the opposite and went even further and was unbelievable.

Speaker 4 So the opposite of Jason Tatum, what's the opposite of him?

Speaker 1 Meh, meh. I mean, it's the meh.
It's it's we're not going to talk sixers until we get Max in here, but it is those two guys.

Speaker 4 But I was going to say, I was going to say Doc Rivers, actually, because Doc Rivers has now he's lost 10 game sevens, five more than any other coach. It's the most in NBA history.
He's the king.

Speaker 4 He's got 10 game seven losses. He's lost the last five game sevens in a row by an average of 14 points.
So if Jason Tatum is him, Doc Rivers is, he's got that doc in him.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I want to talk about Doc Rivers. I want to wait to let's not talk any sixers till Max gets in because we need to punish him.
He needs to, he's going to.

Speaker 4 Forget I said that. Yeah.
I'm going to run those stats back.

Speaker 1 Run them back in front of him.

Speaker 4 I went knuckles deep in stats tonight. So I want to make sure that I confront Big Max with those stats.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Because I have a Doc Rivers take that I need to get off that I want to wait till Max is here so he can hear it.

Speaker 4 I also want to say congratulations to Hank. You deserve it, Hank.
You've had some really tough times as a Boston sports fan recently. So, you know, I'm happy for you.
And thank you.

Speaker 4 You know, I wish I was there in person to see you gloat. I wish you had a soul patch.
It would be good for the show if you had a soul patch anyways, just strictly in terms of downloads.

Speaker 4 I know that you're a team guy, you're a business guy. If you want us to make more money, it would be nice if you had a soul patch.

Speaker 4 But I understand that you're a little bit selfish and might not want to do that. But congratulations, Hank.
I'm very happy for you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so let's hear from Hank.

Speaker 1 You got to feel great. You got to feel great about going forward.
I feel fantastic. Yeah, this team found something in the fourth quarter, game six.
They kept it going into game seven.

Speaker 1 The garden was rocking. Chilies, you know, not to make this about me or make this about the show.
Obviously, the team is the team, but Chili's, great sponsor, great friend, great advertiser.

Speaker 1 They reached out. They said, we want to celebrate you on winning the lottery ball, so we're going to cater lunch for game seven.

Speaker 1 It came at halftime. It came at halftime.
And after halftime, halftime, they won on what was the third quarter? 41 to 31. 33 to 10.
It was 33 to 10.

Speaker 1 I was nervous. I was feeling anxious.
James Harden and Joel Embiid at times in this series played dominant. They seemed unstoppable in the games that they won.

Speaker 1 They kind of were showing a little bit signs of life in the first half. I was getting nervous for the second half.
And then that third quarter put everything to rest, made everything easy.

Speaker 1 It was all fun and games. Watching Max and all the Philly fans fight with each other was just funny to watch and beautiful to see.

Speaker 1 And the only thing I got worried about was in the last four minutes when they didn't take the starters out. Yeah, then Jalen Brown like hurt his, he didn't look, it looked like pushed over.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. But yeah, no, the Sixers had no answers for the Celtics pick and roll.
It was, it was a joke watching the Sixers offense in that second half, similar to the fourth quarter of game six.

Speaker 1 They were showing Doc, too. It wasn't that.
It was probably early in the third quarter, and they showed some sideline shot to Doc, and he just looked like he wasn't even trying to coach anyone.

Speaker 1 He was trying to do anything. He just looks defeated.
And this is when they're only down like 10, 12, 15. Yeah.
And I agree with you.

Speaker 1 Like, the first half, it felt like the Sixers, like, ooh, maybe they'll do something here. And,

Speaker 1 you know what? Let's bring Max in because I want, yeah, let's bring him in.

Speaker 4 I just want to say, for the record, it was kind of selfish of Hank right there to remind everybody that he got the lottery ball on Friday.

Speaker 4 I completely forgot about it because on Friday, Big Cat had a kid.

Speaker 1 So congrats, Big Cat. Thank you.

Speaker 4 That's huge news for the show. Thank you.

Speaker 4 That's what everybody should remember from Friday is the birth of Big Cat's third child, father of three. What an incredible day.

Speaker 4 Great job, Big Cat, and great timing, completely overshadowing whatever it is that Hank accomplished. Probably something totally meaningless earlier that day.

Speaker 1 Who cares about the lottery ball when you bring a fucking life into this world? But that was going to be my who's back. So I'll talk about that then.
But I also will say.

Speaker 1 We have something planned for the lottery ball. So listen at the end of the show.

Speaker 1 We do. We have something planned.
We have something planned for the future of the lottery ball because there were a lot of people being like, what do I do now?

Speaker 1 This was, you know, Hank not getting it was the best. Oh, you scared me.
Selfish help. No.

Speaker 1 We talked about this. Don't act all fucking.
He, PFT, he's being the worst. Like,

Speaker 1 I'm actually trying to be like, hey, you won, you deserve it. And he's doing that little smile where he's like, you know, everything goes my way.
I'm going to, I tweeted it like Max

Speaker 1 or Hank is the only person in the world who like, you know like the old

Speaker 1 when the leaks get eliminated everyone posts like the golf bag.

Speaker 1 Hank is the only person in the world where his team wins and he golfs more. He keeps golfing more as the as the team wins.
He's got his golf bag right there. All right.
Max is coming in.

Speaker 1 So Max, no one else has seen Max except me. He's so angry.
Let me see that face, Max. Let me see that face.
All right, so put on your headphones. Let's see that face, Max.
Put on your headphones.

Speaker 1 Sit down.

Speaker 4 He's got a mask on right now.

Speaker 1 We have not talked about the Sixers yet, so we are going to unload on you being the biggest loser of all time.

Speaker 1 You're a loser. Let's see, Max.
All right.

Speaker 1 Dump him out. I just want everyone to know at home, if you have children watching this, Max has some type of rash that we found out.
It was like basically...

Speaker 1 Hank, don't post any of this till tomorrow because we're trying to get people to watch YouTube. It was basically like digging up old fossils and you don't know what the fuck you're going to find.

Speaker 1 Turns out underneath, you know, thousands of years of sediment, there's a really bad rash on his face. So, I mean, not that bad.

Speaker 4 The thing about Max, though, is he would beat your ass. And also, the thing about Max is I do think that his facial hair will grow back quickly.
He seems like a very hairy.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Yes.
He also just said the stage, he wanted to just do the electric razor where he still had stubble. I made him do the full shave because it was like.

Speaker 2 Hero Big Cat.

Speaker 1 Hero Big Cat.

Speaker 1 Oh, do you want to say what I also said?

Speaker 1 I offered for Max. There was a moment memes can attest this.
I said to Max, I said, Do you want me to take a little heat off you and shave my face too? And he said, No, there's nothing big of you.

Speaker 1 You were not going to do that. I never had the chance.
You said no. Why didn't you take him up on that? Because I know how this goes.
You say, like, yes to him, and he goes, I'm not going to do it.

Speaker 1 And he does that like little smile. No, I would have done it.
You wouldn't have it. Because it's a win-win.
It's a win-win for you either.

Speaker 1 I guess, Kanye, I guess we'll never know.

Speaker 1 All right, let's see. All right, go ahead, Max.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. It's Chumley from Ponstone.

Speaker 1 You are Chumly. Chumly!

Speaker 1 Hey, Philly! I was wondering what he looks like. Chumley!

Speaker 1 Take off the neck thing because it's hiding some of your fat.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 1 Max said he hasn't shaved his face since. Freshman year.
I don't know why this. Oh, it keeps going out over me.
Oh, my God. Since freshman year.
Freshman year was the the last time he shaved. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 Max looks like a roadie from Lake Biscuit. Oh, you're.
Yeah, I said he looked, yeah, or like, he's like a shitty character in an SNL skit about like Juggalos. Oh, you're like, you're like, yeah.

Speaker 4 If Horatio Sands played Fred Durst in a biopic.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 exactly.

Speaker 1 It's his birthday next week, by the way. Oh, happy birthday, Max.
Yep, thanks. How's the rat? The rash doesn't look as bad once you put lotion on it.
Yeah, I had to put some lotion on it.

Speaker 1 All right, so, all right, so let's get the oh my god, let's all move past what his face looks like. I can't, it's bad.
Um, and let's talk about the game, Max.

Speaker 1 Do I still have the toilet paper on my face from

Speaker 1 when I you know, I also cut myself. Oh, man, you look so bad.

Speaker 1 You look so bad,

Speaker 1 Max.

Speaker 4 Max, have you sent a picture of your face to your mom for Mother's Day?

Speaker 1 I have. And what'd she say?

Speaker 1 She said, I'm sure it doesn't look as bad as you feel right now. No,

Speaker 1 it looks worse.

Speaker 1 All right, so let's talk about the game, Max. You're a loser.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm a loser. PFT is a loser.

Speaker 2 PFT also looks pretty bad.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I actually know.

Speaker 1 PFT looks pretty bad.

Speaker 1 I didn't want to

Speaker 1 mean either.

Speaker 4 No, I know I look bad. I look bad.
And this is not...

Speaker 1 I think it's a bad angle you camera, too. I'll say that.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 No,

Speaker 4 I do look bad. I walked in.
I saw my mom. I was like, hey, mom, I'm about to record the show.
So you shut the fuck up. And you don't say goddamn word for the next two hours.

Speaker 4 And she was like, what is that on your face? I didn't tell her that I was doing it so she could notice, but

Speaker 4 it's not as bad as Max. Like, I'm flying under the radar compared to what's going on with Philly.

Speaker 1 It is. It's blurry.
Yeah, like what we're seeing.

Speaker 1 People watching on YouTube will see a clearer for PFT. We're a little blurry, so it doesn't look that bad right now.
It's bad.

Speaker 1 He acts like a sound guy.

Speaker 1 He looks like somebody that just

Speaker 1 doesn't listen to the podcast and just gets assigned to us for like a week. Yeah, a sound guy.
He looks like

Speaker 1 an extra on Portlandia.

Speaker 1 Like, there's, he just,

Speaker 1 yeah, you look like a roadie that, like, maybe traveled with

Speaker 1 like Temple of the Dog. Not even, you weren't even like Pearl Jam or Nirvana.
It's so wild.

Speaker 4 It's like a new metal rapper.

Speaker 1 Also,

Speaker 1 I thought it would be a few. You look shorter.

Speaker 4 You look like a 7-Eleven clerk that works in a college town, but you're a towny. Like, not affiliated with the university.

Speaker 1 You look like you work in a head shop.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, I do.

Speaker 4 Hell yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, man.

Speaker 4 That's one of my favorite things. Deal or no deal.

Speaker 1 You're the comic book guy from Simpsons.

Speaker 1 Yes!

Speaker 1 Dude, this is great. Okay, all right, let's talk about the game.
Let's talk about the game.

Speaker 1 No, I would rather talk about this than the fucking game. Forget about Max's face.
Max, you're a loser.

Speaker 1 Just to go back through the last two weeks, because we know there's been a lot of show. There's been a lot of history.

Speaker 1 Yes, I said game three was not a must-win. It was a wins that PFC and I were dead right about.

Speaker 1 Wrong. Wrong.
Not dead right. And two.
And two. So we said, if you lose game three,

Speaker 1 you lose the series. Exactly how that went.

Speaker 1 We predicted it. We told you game three was a must-win.
You didn't believe us. You also said, Giannis,

Speaker 1 you're like, well, the Bucs, when they won the title, they lost by 40 in game two. And then Giannis took them and won that series and won the title.
And you're like, why can't Embiid be Giannis?

Speaker 1 Giannis in the game seven against the Nets went for 40, 13, and 5.

Speaker 1 Embiid tonight went for 15, 8, and 4. Wait.
Sorry, 4 was the turnovers. He had one assist, not so four turnovers, one assist.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He was bad. He was

Speaker 1 so bad.

Speaker 4 He was bad. Also, Max, I've got some other stats here.
Doc Rivers has now lost 10 game sevens. That's 10.
One, zero game sevens, double-digit game sevens. It's five more than any other coach.

Speaker 4 He's lost five in a row by an average of 14 points in each game. Max, Doc Rivers, I got to assume that you want him, you want him gone like yesterday, obviously.

Speaker 4 Monty Williams is lingering out there, first, you should have to reckon with the fact that me and Big Cat were right. We were right.

Speaker 4 I would go as far to say games two, three, and six should have all been must-wins, and you did not make them must-wins. But if you won any of those games, you win the series.

Speaker 1 By the way, PFT, so my Doc Rivers take that I alluded to earlier. So there's a lot of people going around saying Doc Rivers blown all these leads.

Speaker 1 Unfortunately, it's muddying the water because people are listing all his blown leads and they'll count like 1-0 in a series as a blown lead. That's stupid.
No, 2-1 is

Speaker 1 like 3-1 is a blown lead. So, here's the stat that everyone should if you want to talk about Doc Rivers.
Doc Rivers is now 17 and 33 straight up with a chance to clinch a series.

Speaker 1 So, that means, you know, he was 0-2

Speaker 1 in this series when he had a chance to clinch a series. 33 losses is the most of any coach in NBA history with a chance to clinch a series.
So, 34%

Speaker 1 when his team has a chance to clinch a series, that's the stat.

Speaker 1 Don't, don't, yeah, don't, don't take like a great stat and make it worse by being like, look, Doc Rivers has blown 12 series lead and then lists like a 1-0 or 2-1.

Speaker 1 That lets other people be like, no, that shouldn't count. And then you get in an argument.
Just say 33 losses when he's had a chance to clinch a series.

Speaker 4 No, I agree that like a 1-0 lead is not a blown series, but I still think that having 10 game seven losses, which is the most of it, that's a legit legit stat.

Speaker 4 And he's got, what does he have? Like, I forget how many 3-1 series leads that he's blown. He's blown, I also consider a 3-2 lead.
I consider that a blown lead. It's not as bad, obviously.

Speaker 4 Like that happens from time to time, but he's got a bunch of those.

Speaker 4 You could actually look up on like whatever the modern equivalent of BuzzFeed Sports is, like a top 10 list of Doc Rivers' most epic series collapses. And they're just filled with 3-1, 3-2

Speaker 4 come from ahead losses that he's had.

Speaker 4 So I do want to hear from Max because Max has been like, I don't know if you noticed this, big cat, because you've been looking at me while you've been saying all these things, and I've been talking to you, but Max has just been facing like the window, like, not even looking at anybody in this room, not even acknowledging reality.

Speaker 4 So, Max, will you please just acknowledge reality and let us know what's going through your head right now?

Speaker 1 I mean, there

Speaker 1 isn't much more to this process, it is dead, it is officially dead. It's over.
Doc Rivers is gone 100%.

Speaker 1 James Harden's gone, 100%.

Speaker 1 James Harden's,

Speaker 1 We just forgot to bring up this part because

Speaker 1 it sucks that PFT and I know ball so well.

Speaker 1 And we're unbiased here. We told you James Harden as the series goes along doesn't get better.
He gets worse. Yep.
Yep. Yep.

Speaker 1 Game six, he scored 17 points.

Speaker 1 Game.

Speaker 1 Or sorry, game five, he scored 17 points. Game six, he scored 13 points.

Speaker 1 PFT is 13 more or less than 17. It's less.
Okay, okay, so he got worse. And then game seven, he scored nine points.
Is nine? Not even double digits? It's nine more or less than 13.

Speaker 4 This was the perfect storm. This is like, what are those two ingredients that you had together to make your stupid little volcano and science fair? It's like baking soda and vinegar.

Speaker 4 Like putting that's Doc Rivers and James Harden combining together for what should have been an obvious game seven loss.

Speaker 4 James Harden Harden had 45 points, 42 points, and then a total of 67 points over the other five games of the series.

Speaker 1 Man, he just got worse and worse and worse.

Speaker 1 Only one more attempt than DeAnthony Melton. Oh, man.
In a game seven. Man.
And, oh, that's tough. That's really, he had, he had, he did have seven assists tonight.
He also had five turnovers.

Speaker 1 But yeah,

Speaker 1 we were right about that as well.

Speaker 1 Max kept on saying Harden's fucking prime. He's doing it.
He's doing it. You should have arrested him.

Speaker 4 You should have rested him. You should have arrested him in game seven.
Honestly, I would have arrested James Harden in game seven. I would have benched him.

Speaker 4 I actually think that there might be something to the fact that James Harden doesn't want to win in the playoffs because he gets paid regardless and he just wants to go party in the offseason. Yeah.

Speaker 4 That might, I think it might be time to have that discussion. Like, legitimately, James Harden might not want to win playoff series.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's overtime. They're making him work overtime.
No one wants to work overtime.

Speaker 4 Definitely not James. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You'd be at the buffet.

Speaker 1 Okay, so, Max,

Speaker 1 Doc Rivers, James Harden. Let's talk about that because I do want to have a bigger conversation about Joe's own bead.

Speaker 1 Oh. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Because he is the MVP and the,

Speaker 1 you know, he's a cornerstone of the franchise.

Speaker 1 James Harden, Doc Rivers out?

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 I mean, Harden has a player option. He could come back.
Okay, but you want him out?

Speaker 1 Oh, no. No.
He wants him back. No, I want him.
I probably would prefer him.

Speaker 1 I don't know. It doesn't matter.
Like, what does it matter whether he comes back or he leaves the same team regardless?

Speaker 4 You know what I was thinking earlier tonight when I was watching this game?

Speaker 1 Like, what.

Speaker 1 Like, if Harden comes back, we're still not going to win. If Harden leaves, we're not going to win.
So, like, why do I really care? Yeah. Yeah.
That's true.

Speaker 4 Somebody that's not James Harden.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but like.

Speaker 1 Who? Who are we going to go get? What if it's Michael Jordan? Damn, who are we going to get? Jimmy Butler? Who are we going to go get? Dame. Oh, Jimmy Butler.

Speaker 4 Hank, it was interesting because I was about to say, like, when I was watching this game, I was like, the Sixers team could really use Jimmy Butler.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Imagine if Jimmy Butler was on the Sixers.

Speaker 1 We're pulling out all the stops here, fellas. Well, I mean, we're talking ball.

Speaker 1 We're doing a great job of numbing every single podcast. Every single thing on Twitter.
It's great. Well, I'm just, you know.

Speaker 4 I haven't been on Twitter, Max. This is just, like, this is guys talking ball.
Like, this is what we do.

Speaker 1 I haven't been on social media at all. I just had a kid, Max.
Did you also also see that Ben Simmons was watching the game? Yeah, I posted that on his Instagram. I mean, he's the biggest one.
He won.

Speaker 1 Yeah, worst TV location ever. So at least you won that.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't give a fuck about Ben Simmons. I saw a picture.
I think Sports Center posted a picture. It was like really high-quality images of the Sixers' last game seven games.
Oh, no.

Speaker 1 And it was the Kawhi picture with Embiid looking at the ball looking like he was going to cry. Oh, no.
Ben Simmons passing over the basket, and then a picture from Hardin today.

Speaker 1 It was well done. So, Hank, that's a good segue.

Speaker 1 Those happened in what, like the conference finals, NBA finals? No, I think first or second round. I think second round all.
Oh, no. So

Speaker 1 Joel Embiid's never been past the second round. Yeah, I know.
Okay, so we should,

Speaker 1 and fair is fair, we should talk about this because I know people will say, well, he's been injured. Guess what? We make fun of Chris Paul on this podcast, who is oftentimes injured.
We're being fair.

Speaker 1 Joan Biede, the conversation needs to be had where he just sucks in the playoffs. And in the second round,

Speaker 1 the exact thing that basically got him the MVP this year, when everyone's like, Jokic can't get deep in the playoffs, that is what Joan Bi is. He's never made it past the second round.

Speaker 1 And his numbers get way worse the deeper he gets into the playoffs. What happens now?

Speaker 4 After the game, James, they interviewed Joel Ellen Biet, and he said, like, me and James can't do it all on our own.

Speaker 1 No shit.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we just saw that try to happen. Like, I think that was like a little, it was a slap across the face, especially Maxie, who's good.
Like, I like Maxie.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 But for him, for Embiid to be like, yeah, me and James, you know, we try to do it on our own. We could use some help.

Speaker 4 Like, I'd be pissed off if if I was a player in the Sixers and I heard him say that.

Speaker 1 We should say that was an out of context. Okay, all right, but let's give some context.
I because I saw it and I was like, there's no way he just said this. There's got to be more context.

Speaker 1 He did say, but it's going to take more than us.

Speaker 1 Talking about him and James, we all got to look at ourselves. I got to be better and I will be better.
That's what I'm focused on.

Speaker 1 All of us, we got to come back and find ways to just keep improving and help the team. We can't win alone.
I can't win alone. Me and James, we just can't win alone.
That's where the clip came from.

Speaker 1 That's why basketball has played five on five. So we just need everybody to just try to keep finding ways to get better and we'll be fine.

Speaker 1 It's still in context. You're the MVP of the league.
Just say I sucked and I, it's all on me. Yes.
The context does make that much.

Speaker 1 I mean, he did say that. No, but yeah, no, I agree with PMT.
The context does not make it that much better. It makes it slightly better that he said first, I'm, I need to be better.

Speaker 1 But dude, don't like we ripped Giannis for his quote on the other side of the street. That's not also not true.
Not true. The media did not not rip Giannis.
We, we, but like this show.

Speaker 1 I don't even think that's true. Yes, it is.

Speaker 1 I have five fucking dudes with like four

Speaker 1 followers and a Giannis picture still tweeting me after every game being like, was this game a failure? Was this game a failure? Yes, we ripped Giannis. Giannis was not a failure.

Speaker 1 No, you sugarcoated it. No, that was.
You sugarcoated it. No, I said he's not a failure, but that season was a failure.

Speaker 1 No, I mean, that this, you sugarcoated it just like every other person in the media who it's going to be the same thing as Embiid, and then Embiid's going to get trashed, especially by Philly Media.

Speaker 1 And no, no, no, no, no, no. This is the.
Embiid got an MVP because of the media, dude. Correct.
Correct. They fucking sugarcoated his failures in the playoffs.
What does that have to do with the...

Speaker 1 That's the thing.

Speaker 1 That's why they killed Jokic. The MVP has nothing to do with it.
That's why Jokic didn't win three in a row because he never, because that was a whole storyline. That's not a good thing.

Speaker 1 You can't give a guy a third MVP who doesn't do it in the playoffs. That absolutely was a storyline.
But Embiid hasn't done it in the playoffs either. So, how

Speaker 1 do they give him the, like, how is that an argument? And then be like, oh, now we should give it to MB.

Speaker 1 Embiid has gotten passes. That's what I'm saying.
No, he hasn't. Yes, he has.
No, he has. Hasn't Bi gotten passes? No, no.
Just because you say that he gets a pass. I do not know what he says.

Speaker 1 You don't mean that he gets a fucking pass. He said he got a pass.

Speaker 4 I honestly don't know what that means. What do you mean gets a pass? He's gotten

Speaker 1 a pass. In the past.
He is a pass. In the past, he has not been criticized for not getting through the section.
Wrong, wrong, wrong.

Speaker 1 You're listening to the wrong people.

Speaker 1 I got an MVP this year. Turn off Rasillo.

Speaker 1 Let's not Rasillo.

Speaker 1 Dude,

Speaker 1 just think about this. Jokic, the ding on him this year was that he did not go deep in the playoffs.
You can't give a third MVP to a guy who doesn't perform in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Embiid has never performed in the playoffs. Correct.
So they give it to him.

Speaker 1 But that has nothing to do with a regular season MVP.

Speaker 1 I guarantee Jokic should not be the same. But that's not

Speaker 1 it. No, it was player fatigue.
It was player fatigue because that's what the media does in the NBA with

Speaker 1 MVPs. And that's that.
I agree with you. That's part of that.

Speaker 1 The storyline was Jokic sucks in the playoffs. No, the storyline.
No one talked about him being sucked in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 Don't let Max do this because what Max is doing right now, he's grabbing onto one insequential part of the failure that was this season and then and then harping on that instead of addressing it.

Speaker 1 I don't give a fuck about the MVP. I've said that multitude of times.
Oh, you tweeted. You were happy about it.

Speaker 1 I was like publicly on this show saying, I don't give a fuck about the MVP. And when Embiid was crying after he won, he was like, this is bad.

Speaker 4 And it was. So I think, listen, any team would be lucky to have Joel Embiid.
He's an awesome game.

Speaker 4 I don't think that there's anything about his game necessarily that hamstrings him in the playoffs, besides obviously, you know, being susceptible to injury, which some players are.

Speaker 1 Not being in shape.

Speaker 4 But you you can always say, like, Doc Rivers is way, way bigger of an issue for him than his physical abilities. Like,

Speaker 4 getting rid of Doc Rivers, I think then

Speaker 4 if he loses next season in the postseason, in the second round, then he will not be able to do that.

Speaker 1 DFD just gave him B to pass.

Speaker 1 He did. He literally said Doc Rivers.
My whole point is

Speaker 1 Doc Rivers is who he is. James Harden is who he is.
The conversation should only be about Joel Embiid after this series. That's my thought.

Speaker 1 I am telling you, the love story of, like, I am terrified for what's about to happen this offseason because the love story of Joelle and Biede and Philadelphia

Speaker 1 is like a drawing in the wrong direction. And he's a great guy.

Speaker 1 Love Joe. I want him to stay on the Sixers, but I know things are about to go south.
And that is, I'm terrified. I think that there's a good chance

Speaker 1 he wakes up, like, he sees what Philadelphia is saying about him tonight and tomorrow and wants out.

Speaker 4 Max, then you have one chance. Yeah, then Max, you have one chance.
It's on you. Tell Joelle and B what you really feel.

Speaker 1 I can't do this. Never on sports podcast.

Speaker 4 He's going to listen to this, Max. He's going to listen.

Speaker 4 Listen to him. Give him a pass.

Speaker 1 He's going to see. I'm not going to give him a pass.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to give him a pass. I mean, he was.

Speaker 4 Well, then you're driving him away, Max. Then you're going to be responsible.

Speaker 1 All I am saying is, I love Joel. I think I want him to be on this team forever.
He's clearly clearly not a go-to guy in the playoffs. He's just not.

Speaker 1 And, like, that's something, like,

Speaker 1 even if he does go, he's going to go somewhere where he doesn't have to be the go-to guy in the playoffs. He's not,

Speaker 1 he can't lead a team deep in a playoff run, but he's still a really good player. He's a phenomenal player.
But, like,

Speaker 1 this is the turning point of, like, we have, we know who Joel Embiid is now. Right.
Like, that's what he is. Like, he is Anthony Davis.
Anthony Davis is

Speaker 1 can win away. Oh, Anthony is better than Joel.
No, he's not. Yes, he is.
No, he's not. Anthony Davis does the exact same thing.
Does the exact same thing, but has LeBron James. He has won a title.

Speaker 1 But he has LeBron James on his family. He was funny.
Anthony Davis played Anthony Davis is the exact same thing. Anthony Davis.

Speaker 4 When did he win the title?

Speaker 1 Oh, half a ton. Oh, yeah.
Half a title. Half a ton.
Oh, half a ton. Clip that.
Clip that.

Speaker 1 Anthony Davis has won a title. Half a ton.
Anthony Davis has better than that. He has a title.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 Here's all I'm saying. Joel and Bi love watching him play.
Seems like. Anthony Davis also has had stinkers in this playoff.
Yeah, he has. And Embiid has had good games in this playoff.

Speaker 1 But Anthony Davis has got. But he's number two on his team, and Embiid is number one.
That's all I'm saying. I would say Anthony Davis is number one on his team.
No, he's not. Yes, he is.

Speaker 1 No, he's not.

Speaker 1 That team goes as Anthony Davis goes. But LeBron James is that team.
Either way, Anthony Davis also had, like, remember that fucking series against...

Speaker 1 Was it the Blazers where he was like out of this world? Good. Either way,

Speaker 1 let's not do an Anthony Davis-Joel Embiid debate. My point is, Joel Embiid's a phenomenal player.
I fucking love him as a guy.

Speaker 1 He deserves to be getting all the shit in the world, and I don't think he's gotten all the shit. He's had Ben Simmons, people like PFT saying Doc Rivers is the problem.

Speaker 1 He's had all these other things that have been able to excuse injuries. He stunk, and they needed him.

Speaker 1 And it's similar to Jason Tatum, where it's like, if you're the best player on the court, you step up in that moment. Otherwise, like, you need the criticism.

Speaker 1 This series, he was he needed to be there this game at the end of game six and game seven they he didn't get the ball at the end of the at the end of game six i blame that somewhat on james harden but that's also like dude joe he dominated he dominated the entire

Speaker 1 ball he just didn't get he just no one gave him the ball he's a center that's what i've been saying about this this whole time but jokic

Speaker 1 yes but like that's also

Speaker 1 i'm going to go on this is doc rivers i just want to say this right now jokic did just average a triple double in this series against And I'm not arguing Jokic Embiid. I haven't said that.

Speaker 1 I haven't said that once. Now it is clear.
It is clear who you would rather want on your team, Jokic or Embiid.

Speaker 1 You would want Jokic after what Joel Embiid just did in game seven and after what Jokic just did in the West. Like, that's clear.
I'm not arguing that. All I'm arguing is that Embiid still is.

Speaker 1 a top player in the league. He may not be the number one guy on a championship team, but there's not that many guys out there in the league.
Okay.

Speaker 4 Let's talk failures and losers real real quick because we were talking about

Speaker 4 failures after the Bucks series. Yes.
We're talking about the process, right? I think it might be time to do a post-mortem on the process. Did the process work? Did the process of the process work?

Speaker 4 And the results of the process didn't work.

Speaker 4 So we're process guys on this podcast, but I'm starting to think that when you do the process and you intentionally lose, you create a losing stink around your team for a while.

Speaker 4 And that stink is harder to get off of than you might think just by having all the talent around.

Speaker 1 Thoughts, sure. I don't know.
I don't know. I don't care.

Speaker 1 I don't care. I'm just thinking about what happened in this game and

Speaker 1 where this, I don't even give a fuck where this team goes.

Speaker 1 All right, that's a good answer.

Speaker 1 I mean, Max,

Speaker 1 listen, we're losers, PFT.

Speaker 1 Yeah, welcome. He's a Max.

Speaker 1 One of us. He's losing one of us.
You're such a loser. It's such a catastrophic losing that you do.
The clip is great.

Speaker 1 It's on social medias during the stream, but Max talking about the last six months. Do you want to just reflect on the show? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know. How long have you been on the show? I've been on this show since not a full year, since August of 2022.

Speaker 1 I've been a part of four bets. I am three and one in the four bets.

Speaker 6 First.

Speaker 1 Had to eat 17 hot dogs. Came in second in

Speaker 1 the hot dog competition.

Speaker 1 John She forgot that was Davis Smill.

Speaker 1 I forgot that was second place.

Speaker 1 That was me coming in second place. That's fitting for Philly.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Good point, Jake.
Great point, Jake. Number two.
Wait, wait, wait, wait. You're forgetting that you lost

Speaker 1 the World Series and got no hits. No, I'm talking about bets.
Oh, yeah, but you also lost the World Series. I lost no hits.
Correct. Lost the World Series.
One game one, though.

Speaker 1 It was the game null of hits.

Speaker 1 Number two, Big Cat bought my ticket to the Super Bowl with the condition that I pay him

Speaker 1 if the Eagles lose, lose $6,000. A lot of money to a man like myself.
Paid the $6,000. Oh,

Speaker 1 drank champagne before.

Speaker 4 Whatever. Threw up on yourself.
Three, the third loss.

Speaker 1 The third loss. Soul Patch.
Soul Patch on my face looks really sick. Really happy about it.
Checking the YouTube. It's going to have

Speaker 1 him getting animated in person has been hilarious.

Speaker 4 Tune into the YouTube and watch Max go on the rant because it's hilarious.

Speaker 1 I have won one bet. I have won one bet.
What's the one bet? The winner got to do the Ray Allen tweet. Oh, I did win that.
I did win the one bet.

Speaker 1 That was sick.

Speaker 4 So you mean you're one and three?

Speaker 1 You're not three and one. Yeah, whatever.
Who cares? He's a loser.

Speaker 4 Yeah, who cares? Yeah, Doc Rivers style. Don't forget, you won a pair of Jordans.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was actually the only

Speaker 1 in the MLS.

Speaker 1 Because the Eagles lost. But oh, yeah, the Fluelle game came in second.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, that was a regular season game that meant absolutely nothing.

Speaker 1 That was the funny thing. You also got everyone.
You got everyone on UCLA injured. Yeah, that was another loser.

Speaker 1 I would actually count UConn winning the title as a loser for you because you bet against them every single game.

Speaker 1 Max Homa, like, he may never recover from us betting on him in the Masters.

Speaker 1 Your stink on him.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 you lose in spectacular fashion like you two are both mat like massive losers but it's not even massive no it's it's so huge it's just like we wake up lose go on with our life yeah you wake up get your hopes up get them way up get them even further up and then get him squashed like a bug every day Yeah, we're very comfortable in our losing.

Speaker 4 And one day you'll get there, Max, but right now you're in such denial about being a loser.

Speaker 1 I'm not in a denial. Yeah, like Max.
Chicago sports might have, where, until they do the NBA draft lottery, they could have a historic three number one picks.

Speaker 1 And you're still a bigger loser than me this last year. Max.

Speaker 1 Do you still trust the process? No, the process is done. The process is done.
So it's a Ponzi.

Speaker 4 Remember when I said it was a Ponzi scheme?

Speaker 1 I'm not doing this whole Ponzi scheme.

Speaker 1 I'm not doing the whole Ponzi scheme.

Speaker 1 The process was a thing that failed. Do you? It's as simple as that.
Do you regret at all

Speaker 1 doing the LeBron James dance in the gambling cave in the first quarter? Yes, regret it.

Speaker 1 Yes. Answer, yes.

Speaker 1 Wish I didn't do it. Wish I didn't appear on any stream for the past two weeks.
Yes, wish that didn't happen.

Speaker 4 Max, do you regret calling Philly Title Town?

Speaker 1 I regretted that before I even finished the fucking sentence. Like,

Speaker 1 there's nothing that has been regretted more in a quicker amount of time. That's like the fact that that question

Speaker 1 is being asked when you go back to it and it's like it's titled

Speaker 1 I can't say that. And then it was just gone.
Max, do you regret hating dogs so you don't even have like an

Speaker 1 dogs?

Speaker 1 I don't hate

Speaker 1 okay, good, good, good, good, Max. Doesn't it? Wait.

Speaker 1 Max, so you like, I don't hate. What did you say?

Speaker 4 I don't hate fucking dogs.

Speaker 1 So oh no, you you love fucking dogs. So I guess he does love dogs.
Doesn't like to pet him. He's fucking them.
Right. Yeah, he's a little

Speaker 1 aggressive.

Speaker 1 You love dogs.

Speaker 1 No, you like a very, very. You guys were wrong about that one.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You love dogs. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Listen, Max doesn't love the fur and the eyes and the ears, the outside, but Max loves the animals. Shut up.

Speaker 1 Shut up.

Speaker 1 Shut up. Max doesn't like dogs.
He loves dogs, if you get what I'm saying. Dogs are better than frogs.

Speaker 1 Look at him right now.

Speaker 1 I hate this show stream. You can't get lower.
We love you.

Speaker 1 We love you as much as you love fucking dogs.

Speaker 1 It's just, Hank, you don't get to laugh that hard. That's the only part that sucks about it is Hank gets so much.

Speaker 4 I'm absolutely absolutely loving everything about Max right now and this interaction, but I can just hear Hank smiling so, so much with every sentence that he says, and that's pissing me off.

Speaker 1 I have a

Speaker 1 I mean, Max, I don't know what to say at this point.

Speaker 1 You're as low as you could get.

Speaker 1 What? I'm about as low.

Speaker 1 I can't believe this just happens. It's just like a tri-yearly thing that I just, whatever.

Speaker 1 I did give him like a,

Speaker 1 while he was shaving his face and he was uncovering his gross rash,

Speaker 1 he, I was like, Max, is there ever, has there been part of you at all in the last year where you wish you hadn't taken this job and you just remained like an anonymous ogre in the video bay? And he,

Speaker 1 to his credit, he said, no, I love doing this show. So, yeah.
Or he kind of said that. He kind of was like, he hemmed and hawed a little bit.

Speaker 1 Like that.

Speaker 1 He did that. Yeah, no.
Happy to be here.

Speaker 1 Not right now.

Speaker 1 We love you, Max.

Speaker 1 Okay. We do love you.

Speaker 4 Like, you do.

Speaker 1 The fact that I just have to do it. You've been on such a run.

Speaker 1 You want to switch with Hank?

Speaker 1 Watch your hand. Watch your hand.
No, he's fine.

Speaker 1 No, he's fine. Switch with Hank.
Switch with Hank. You can switch with Hank.

Speaker 1 Max, that was it for Max.

Speaker 4 Good job, Max. Good job, Max.

Speaker 1 Good job, Max.

Speaker 1 All right, one last thing about this series, and then we can talk about the other stuff.

Speaker 1 I think there should be a rule in MVP voting that if you don't get past second round, it just goes to the second place guy.

Speaker 1 Or maybe whoever gets to the, like, you have to get to the conference finals. It's same as NFL.
You have to win at least one playoff game.

Speaker 1 Like, I know it's a regular season award, but I think there should be like a stipulation that said, because you don't want to change it where you vote vote after the playoffs, because then they'll just give it to the best player in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 That would just be the MVP every year, and they would just disregard the regular season. But just having one stipulation where it's like, okay, you got the MVP.

Speaker 1 We won't give it to you until you get to the conference finals. Then you officially become the MVP.

Speaker 4 I do kind of like that

Speaker 4 every now and again where it happens when like Peyton Manning wins the NFL MVP, and then he would get his ass kicked by Tom Brady in the playoffs, and he'd he'd still have to accept the award while Tom Brady had yet to play in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 That's almost as much of a punishment as giving it to somebody else.

Speaker 1 It was, remember, they stopped doing it in the NBA after Dirk won the MVP

Speaker 1 and then lost in the first round of the Warriors. And

Speaker 1 they stopped doing that ceremony in the second round. But I really, like, people complain about it because I think it's fair.
If you win the MVP and you flame out, it does feel a little hollow.

Speaker 1 So make that just a rule where you get the MVP if you get to the conference finals. Like you have, like the MVP has to come from the conference.

Speaker 1 It's the best player regular season who also got to the conference finals.

Speaker 4 I don't know if I totally agree with that, but I like the idea of having the voting take place like in the middle of the playoffs.

Speaker 4 So if somebody flames out in really, really spectacular fashion, that will be in the back of their mind.

Speaker 4 And so if it's a toss-up, like in this case, if it was Embiid and Jokic and the voting happened like during this series, then it might have swung the other way. I don't know if that you should wait.

Speaker 4 I don't know that you should like take it away from somebody, but I think having the voting take place midway through the playoffs would be probably a happy compromise.

Speaker 1 And maybe it's,

Speaker 1 yeah, like in MLB, you got to make the playoffs. That'd be cool, you know? Because it just, I don't know.
I guess I really don't care about MVP at the end of the day. It's more just this.

Speaker 1 Like, I was looking back. It actually is only,

Speaker 1 let's see, one, two, three. It's happened a bunch in the last, like, five years, but the last 30 years has only happened like eight times.

Speaker 1 So you'd only have to, and some of them would end up being like, it would be a net positive. Like, Tim Duncan would lose one, but he'd get another one.
So, I don't know. Just a thought.

Speaker 1 Just a thought.

Speaker 1 Okay, Max is back in his seat. Hank's here.
Do you want to talk some other NBA stuff? Should we talk? Lakers, Warriors. And

Speaker 1 don't clip this, but what LeBron James did on Friday night is pretty fucking mind-boggling.

Speaker 1 I'm not a fan of the guy, but I can step back and be like, he's in year 20, and he just went up against the Warriors who weren't, you know, peak Warriors, but either way, and he dropped a 39-9 in year 20.

Speaker 1 And his career, like the longevity of his career is insane. He's in another conference final.
I think he's made the conference finals like.

Speaker 1 you know, in healthy years, it's something ridiculous where it's pretty much every year he is like his own conference final dynasty.

Speaker 1 But that Lakers, like, I'm, I am now officially just, I think I'm just gonna have to put a big bet on the nuggets because I'm so scared the Lakers.

Speaker 1 I have to, like, do like a last stand because I think the Lakers are going to win the title.

Speaker 4 Yeah, join me. This is the way.
Yeah. Shout out.

Speaker 4 LeBron was great. Also, Rob Lowe and the rest of the Lakers front office should get some credit because their team sucked.
They were a bad, bad team until they got rid of. Well, maybe that's the move.

Speaker 4 It's just get Westbrook on your team and then get rid of him halfway through the season and then the vibes by comparison will be so much higher that your team will actually gel together because the front office turned this team around from what looked like a dead-end season and now they they legitimately look like they could win a championship they were so good against the warriors LeBron James yeah it's like fountain of youth even though he did spend like 50 seconds on the ground slapping the floor wiping his eyes down i thought he was dead for a while on that one shot he went to the hole got knocked down and d'Angelo Russell came behind him and did the flex pose behind him.

Speaker 4 Yeah. And then held the flex pose for like 40 seconds while LeBron was on the ground crying until he got up.
But that's just what you're going to get with LeBron.

Speaker 4 He's going to be awesome, and then he'll do some hilarious things that everybody can make fun of. And so he's fun to watch.
But yeah, the Lakers, they should get the credit for this.

Speaker 4 The Warriors dynasty may be over. That'll be a conversation.
That'll be happening all over first take tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 So Clay was awful. Like, if you got anything from Clay, they might go seven.
I'm saying like pretty much any game. He was,

Speaker 1 at the end, there, they were leaving him open, basically, being like, go ahead and shoot. You're not going to make it.

Speaker 1 But Draymond looked like he still has something left in the tank. And Steph is still Steph.
So I don't know. I mean, if they can make a couple moves,

Speaker 1 Kerr did have a quote after where he's like, we weren't a championship caliber team. Like, that's just, you could tell that we were not on that level.

Speaker 1 But I do think that when you have Steph Curry, who's still as good as he is the

Speaker 4 knee jerk would probably be like let's try to run back as much of this as possible because starting fresh and totally over feels like it would be pretty hard to do when he's 35 years old yeah but it depends on who you move on from that's how we like we can continue the steph dynasty for the no of course it's gonna have it's gonna have to evolve like they're gonna have to get some good players that aren't currently on the roster to take over uh guys like probably draymond is his last season maybe maybe one more season left oh i think he's gonna play one season

Speaker 4 at least at least one season left playing meaningful minutes on this warriors team is what i'm saying like he could maybe go somewhere else oh see i and contribute i i'm like reverse where i was like

Speaker 1 watching draymond in this series like that's how important he is to what they do like he you need him to to you need to re-sign him and hope that he can stay you know some like don't let him leave because he is like that's he is just as important not just as important as Steph, but he's the second most important guy in everything that they do.

Speaker 1 And I just don't know what you do with Clay, but I, my point is he's Steph's 35 years old. Are you going to blow the whole thing up and hope that you can figure it out around him?

Speaker 1 Because that feels like it might take too much time.

Speaker 1 Or do you try to tinker with it and be like, hey, let's try one or two more years here while Steph is still Steph and see if we can recapture something.

Speaker 4 You got to get one more big piece in. You can't run it back with the same team.

Speaker 1 No, everyone. No, I agree.
I agree. I'm just saying you can't blow the whole thing up.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's not demolition. Dynasty not over, just dynasty on pause.
But

Speaker 4 how many years do they get without a championship for it to be considered the same dynasty?

Speaker 4 Like if they win, if they lose next year and then win the year after, are we considering that part of the same dynasty?

Speaker 1 If they win next year, you're saying?

Speaker 4 No,

Speaker 4 if they lose this year, obviously they will lose this year and then they lose next year and then win the year after. I think that you would, because

Speaker 4 it's only going to be two seasons removed from a dynasty.

Speaker 1 I think it becomes like the Tim Duncan, where it's like it all kind of blends together, and you're like, oh, yeah, dynasty, but it was just, you know, it was a very long period of time where they were just very, very good and in the mix every single year.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I agree. I think if you win another in the next three years, then it still counts.
It blends together as the same.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so the Lakers, I'm scared of Austin Reeves. I fucking love Austin Reeves, though.
That half-court shot was awesome. Everyone pumped up.

Speaker 1 All the celebrities. I can't.
Max,

Speaker 1 his face is tough to look at, PFT. It's, yeah, I just caught it out of the corner of my eye.

Speaker 1 I think he looks good. I think he just has to dress appropriately.

Speaker 1 He does not think that.

Speaker 1 What does that mean, Hank?

Speaker 4 Let's unpack that. What do you mean, dress appropriately? I think he needs Hawaiian shirts.

Speaker 1 No, I think like all black,

Speaker 1 all black, and maybe like

Speaker 1 he's got to embrace the roadie. Yeah, he looks like a road.
And a COVID mask. No, you can't wear a COVID mask.
All black. Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 1 All black, maybe like a black jacket with patches on the back. Yeah.
I think Hank needs to get shaved. Just kind of.
Like a sheep. Should have told, you know, should have told that to Embiid.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you should have.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so the Lakers, I am very afraid of them, PFT.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Do you agree with me that as a Nuggets fan, you are one right now, at least for the next.

Speaker 1 I've always loved Jokic, yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you would agree that playing the Warriors would have been by far the preferable route for us.

Speaker 1 Oh, easily, easily.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I am afraid of the Lakers. But again, like, man, Anthony Davis, just healthy as a horse.
He's just, he's out there just setting records for health.

Speaker 1 You know what scares me? And this, Hank, you shouldn't get to listen to this.

Speaker 1 Coley. Our former colleague, good friend of ours, said something to me once that like registered in my head, and I never got it out of it out of my head when you talk about playoff matchups.

Speaker 1 It was before the Patriots played the Falcons in the Super Bowl and he was like,

Speaker 1 yeah, the Patriots, like they're not going to lose to the Falcons. Like it's the Falcons.
Like even though the Falcons were the NFC champions, he was saying just franchise-wise, it's the Falcons.

Speaker 1 And I remember just being like, what the fuck? And then when it was 28-3, I was like, huh, Coley looks like an idiot. And then we know the rest of that story.

Speaker 1 The Lakers aren't going to lose to the Nuggets, like, just as NBA history goes.

Speaker 1 Do you know what I mean? That's what scares me. Just take out the fact that the Nuggets, I think, are a better team.

Speaker 1 It's the Lakers and the Nuggets. And that's the Nuggets.
That sucks to have in my head. And I hope it's wrong.
But Coley, shout out Coley.

Speaker 1 And I know Hank is nodding along because you've probably had many sporting events in your life that have been exactly that.

Speaker 1 It's the Lakers and the Nuggets.

Speaker 4 It's like,

Speaker 4 you remember the Patriots should have lost to the Jaguars in the playoffs in the AFC Championship game? The Patriots don't, they're not going to lose to the Jaguars.

Speaker 1 To the Jaguars, right? Yeah,

Speaker 4 the refs probably have that in the back of their head, too. That's why they're like, oh, yeah, Miles Jack's down because they're like, it's the Jaguars.
Of course he's down.

Speaker 4 They're not going to beat the Patriots.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 4 But yeah, I understand what you're saying, but these aren't those nuggets. These are these nuggets.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we need

Speaker 1 you know what we need?

Speaker 1 We need like a 2001 diamondbacks yankees because that could have absolutely been the same case the yankees aren't going to lose the diamondbacks so we need that yeah we need that yeah that was that was a shocker because it was also

Speaker 4 wasn't it right after 9-11 it was yes and everybody in america was like oh yeah the the yankees are gonna it's gonna be a sweep yeah it's gonna be it's gonna be a whomping so yeah we just need it's these nuggets not those nuggets get those old nuggets out of your head these are the new nuggets yes yes um okay and then the last nba game then we'll talk some hockey.

Speaker 1 Knicks tried hard. Jalen Brunson went out on his sword.

Speaker 1 And now the heat in the Eastern Conference finals.

Speaker 1 I really do think that

Speaker 1 Hank should be way more scared of the heat than the Sixers just because of Jake. Similar to the Lakers-Nuggets thing, Jake just being there and being like, oh, I don't really care.

Speaker 1 And then having them beat the Celtics after the war Ink went through,

Speaker 1 it does kind of work out perfectly.

Speaker 4 Jake's not going to lose to Hank last year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true. Good point.
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 I think the Heat, like, I think it's going to be a good series. I don't,

Speaker 1 the Heat are not as talented as the Celtics,

Speaker 1 but I think the coaching discrepancy between Spo and Missoula will definitely swing the Heats way for at least the game.

Speaker 4 Massive, massive coaching discrepancy.

Speaker 4 Am I wrong? Spolstra has never won a coach of the year?

Speaker 1 Probably not because all those

Speaker 1 years that he won titles, everyone was like, well, it's because he's got a super team.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but I mean, I think we should start banging that drum. Spolstra should be coach of the year.

Speaker 1 Last year should have been the year when they were the one seed.

Speaker 1 But if last year's not going to be the year, then like, when will it happen?

Speaker 4 He should get one. He's underappreciated.

Speaker 6 He got NBCA coach of the year in 2017.

Speaker 4 What is that? I don't know what that is.

Speaker 4 National Basketball Coaches Association is probably the...

Speaker 1 That's not the coach of the year. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Are you nervous, Hank?

Speaker 1 I'm a little nervous. I still sometimes think about that game seven last year where the Celtics were up and then the Heat came back and Jimmy Beller missed that three.

Speaker 1 That would have been probably one of the most devastating sports moments of my life, and it just randomly pops, flashed into my head sometimes. So I am nervous.
I do think the Celtics should win.

Speaker 1 They'll probably lose a couple games because of coaching, but I think it should be Celtics in six or Celtics in seven. I think it'll be uh

Speaker 1 I'm more worried about the heat than I was about the Sixers going into the Sixers series. The Heat, like Jimmy Butler is the opposite of Joel Mpede and James Hart,

Speaker 1 polar opposite, he gets better in the playoffs and is worse in the regular season, Kevin Love, proven winner, yeah,

Speaker 1 Max Streus, Max Streuss, Robinson,

Speaker 1 Bam, Bam was actually a close-out game. Bam was phenomenal.
I think he had like 15 points. It felt like five minutes into the game.
Yeah. I just think the Heat aren't as good as they were last year.

Speaker 1 And the Celtics, like, they know that they should win the series. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So should the Bucs.

Speaker 2 So should of the Bucs.

Speaker 3 So should of the Knicks.

Speaker 1 So should of the Bulls. So should not really.
No, they definitely shouldn't have. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I

Speaker 1 have you said,

Speaker 1 yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 4 I was just going to say official predictions. Hank said Celtics in six or Celtics in seven.

Speaker 1 Celtics in six, official. So what's the bet?

Speaker 1 Between Hank and Jake. I'm done with bets.
Soul patch? I am good with bets.

Speaker 4 I've never had facial air in my life.

Speaker 1 Soul patch?

Speaker 1 You can't quit on bets. By the way,

Speaker 1 my sick, twisted brain,

Speaker 1 what is like three days ago, I offered

Speaker 1 that the loser of the soul patch bet can automatically hit a double or nothing button for week one of the NFL Eagles Patriots.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's not the playoffs.
What about your it's not your bet to make, Dan?

Speaker 1 I don't care, Hank. It's the show for the listeners, Hank.

Speaker 1 How about this?

Speaker 4 If you want the show to be great, why don't we say, like, if it's a whomping,

Speaker 4 if it's four to one or four to nothing, if a whomping's on the table, the loser can't play golf for a month.

Speaker 1 Sure, okay.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 a round of golf,

Speaker 4 you can't play any golf. You can't swing a club,

Speaker 1 you can't practice

Speaker 1 4-0 or 4-1's bigger risk for me considering the odds yeah jake should get

Speaker 1 jake should get swing

Speaker 1 yeah jake should get jake should get if he gets swept and hank should have to do it if if the celtics lose 4-1 or 4-0 yep deal you spot him a game okay all right all right like it yeah i like it

Speaker 1 if the eagles beat the patriots by 20 you should have to get a soul patch We'll see what the spread is. Okay.

Speaker 4 All right. It would be so awesome if the league

Speaker 4 1-4-1.

Speaker 4 Hank not golfing for his first month in Chicago would be incredible.

Speaker 1 Or you can get out of it with a soul patch.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 How can I get out of it? Soul Patch?

Speaker 1 Ray Allen tweet. No.
Okay. Well, there you go.
You can get out of it with that. That's very easy.
Have you seen Knicks fans going after Julius Randall? It's been quite a story.

Speaker 1 They were stomping on his poster.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I think, was it Kenyon Martin was tweeting about how he shouldn't be kissing his wife after a game that they lost? It was very bizarre.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 part of me is like, yeah, this is like, if you're a Knicks fan, like, you're supposed to be tough, tough town

Speaker 1 to win in. You got to deal with it.

Speaker 4 But you can't flip the switch that fast from having absolutely no playoff success.

Speaker 4 And then you win a series and then all of a sudden you're like, yeah, you actually shouldn't show affection to your wife.

Speaker 4 after you lose like you can't oh yeah that one was banned that quick you can't turn on a man that quickly like i'm not the biggest julius randall fan in the world i think that we've beaten him two years in a row in uh in cj mccollum's fantasy football league no big deal but i don't think that you should like trash the man because uh you you win one playoff series in the last whatever 15 years and you're like we're supposed to be better than this no you had a nice run you should have enjoyed it which you did but don't turn on him that quickly counterpoint and i agree with the the like kissing the wife that was stupid but like they were trashing his they were they were stomping on it they were doing graffiti on his poster at mass Square Garden.

Speaker 1 Counterpoint, Knicks fans root so hard for the Knicks that even winning a series was like a championship.

Speaker 1 So it felt like they were like Knicks fans in the playoffs live a life of like seven years in one week, it feels like the emotions that they go through.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so they won a championship and then lost a championship essentially.

Speaker 1 Right, right, pretty much. And then they trashed Julius Randall on the way out.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Hank, what were you going to say?

Speaker 1 I'll say for who's back. Okay.

Speaker 1 So, hockey playoffs, real quick. We are watching game six of the Oilers right now.
Congratulations to Carolina and Florida being in the Eastern Conference finals. Huge for hockey.

Speaker 1 That's going to be great. What? That's tough.
Yeah, I mean, I think. It's exciting.
I'm going to go with Carolina because why not?

Speaker 1 Who knows? But I do have something, PFT, for you.

Speaker 1 Our friend Spencer Hawes, after we made him go to a Kraken game, yeah, we bullied him into

Speaker 1 for game seven.

Speaker 1 I have yours right here in the studio.

Speaker 1 Hanky Kraken jersey, for those listening. Seattle.
Can you model it for me, Hank?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 6 I got to figure out the official blue that you're wearing.

Speaker 1 Is that the Phantasm model? Teal?

Speaker 4 Is that what it's called? That's a beautiful. No, it's a special color, Billy.
Jake looked up the Pantone.

Speaker 1 We're cracking

Speaker 1 teal. Yep.
We're crackheads. No, you're wearing ice blue.

Speaker 4 We are on the bandwagon for the crack ice blue huge huge crackheads i've always been a crackhead i grew up with marion berry as my mayor so that that's i love this team let's go yes yes

Speaker 1 and they like they're fun stuff that series has been so much fun to watch i know the second round hasn't been great but we get it we get a game seven every game has been like a hundred goals

Speaker 1 That's beautiful. That's his hat too.
That's as hat as money. We're crackheads.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Hank, I love that jersey, but if you steal it, I will slit your throat.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was going to say it's a shame you're never going to see it again. Yeah.
I mean,

Speaker 1 this is kind of your hat, too, I think.

Speaker 1 You know what we should do?

Speaker 4 You're looking real comfortable on that side of the desk.

Speaker 1 I'm feeling great. Jake, tomorrow morning, I'll give you my credit card.
Go to the NHL shop. It's right near here.
Right down the street and get my first Panther shirt.

Speaker 1 Yeah, get Max a Dallas Stars jersey. For tomorrow night.
Oh, playing a little guitar. If we get Max in a Dallas Stars jersey, we're good.

Speaker 4 Yeah, let's do it. Max, you have to be our whore now in terms of just rooting for teams that we want to lose.

Speaker 1 He's not even, when I say he's not listening, he's just, he's just

Speaker 1 on his swivel chair, just scrolling Twitter, just as sad as sad gets. No, I'm all over the Lakers, though, so you're getting your wish there.
Okay, yes.

Speaker 4 That's I fucking hate, I hate Hank when he wins. Look at him.
I know.

Speaker 1 It's brutal.

Speaker 1 It's brutal because I love the guy like a brother, but there are times when he wins that make me want to be like, I don't ever want to talk to you again in my life.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I feel those vibes. I felt like that after the lottery ball, honestly, like before this.

Speaker 1 Let's not talk about that till the end. No, exactly.

Speaker 4 I think I congratulate on your kid.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Let's not talk about that to the end.
But yeah.

Speaker 1 He's the worst to be around because he's just

Speaker 1 so smug. No, what does that mean? Smugness.

Speaker 1 It's smug. I'm just happy.
And you win so much. I know.
That's the problem.

Speaker 1 Celix have been in the final four, or a Boston team has been in the final four for 14 straight years. Shut the fuck up.
That's ridiculous. But we have.

Speaker 1 That actually made Max cry a little bit. He started to cry a little bit.

Speaker 4 You understand that, like...

Speaker 4 Me and Big Cat, we can't even understand what that must feel like. Having 14 years of deep playoff runs, one right after the other, it must be.

Speaker 1 It's really not that great.

Speaker 4 It must be fucking awesome.

Speaker 1 It's really not that great. I'll tell you that.
Well, the second round isn't that deep. No, the second round's not deep at all.
Joel and Beats barely gotten it in. I'm talking whatever.

Speaker 1 The Eagles and the Phillies.

Speaker 1 No, he's back to spouting. All right, let's do who's back of the week.
And we've got a great interview with JJ Watt.

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Speaker 1 Okay, who's back of the week, Hank?

Speaker 1 Who's back of the week is Blake Griffin. Oh! Welcome to the third round of the NBA Playoffs.
Blake of the Year.

Speaker 1 Big day.

Speaker 1 I'm happy for him.

Speaker 4 Let's go, Blake.

Speaker 1 Is that a subtle dig?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 About him being in the third round?

Speaker 1 No, it's like the monkeys off his back. Okay.
I'm happy for him. That's like a dig.

Speaker 4 This is what happens when you don't have to be a bad guy.

Speaker 1 This is where it's like, I don't know. I love him so much, I didn't even know he hadn't gotten to the third round.
I just assumed he had.

Speaker 1 No, I do. I love him so much.
I assumed he had. It's something that reporters and the media and people talk about with him, and I'm happy it's no longer a storyline.

Speaker 1 Is his back getting better?

Speaker 4 It's got to be.

Speaker 1 All right. I want to see.
He could.

Speaker 1 There's no reason he's like 10 times better than Grant Williams. I'm not trying to start shit in that locker room, but

Speaker 1 he is. He is.
You know, he would be awesome if he could give you 10, 12 minutes a game.

Speaker 4 If the series goes the way that Hank thinks that it's going to go and it's not particularly close, we could see Blake getting in. Wait, I'll put it this way.

Speaker 1 If Udonis Hacklam gets in the game,

Speaker 1 if he's back, because there's been blowouts.

Speaker 4 If Haslam gets in the game, I need to see Blake in the game.

Speaker 1 I think he just needs to get his back healthy and he'll play regular minutes. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Blake's back. I hope so.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I'm just happy for him. I thought we should have mentioned that.
I forgot earlier.

Speaker 1 It wasn't a dick at all. I'm legitimately.
I love him so much. If you told me he had three titles, I'd be like, yeah, duh.
He's the fucking man. Blake of the years, maybe.

Speaker 1 Well, but I'm talking about NBA titles. He's coming for his first.
Okay.

Speaker 1 That would be a nice...

Speaker 1 We could just have Blake produce the podcast that day instead of Hank. Yes.
Yeah, sell the sweet title.

Speaker 4 Hank, would you do? Actually, no, because then Hank's like, that means that I get to go to the close-out game and party and not have to work the next day.

Speaker 1 True. Good point.
Good point. No, Hank should produce that podcast.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. You hate golf.
No, I don't.

Speaker 1 I just hate when you golf and you win. It's the combo.
Like, if you were losing and golfing, it'd be totally fine.

Speaker 1 It's the fact that you keep winning and then you're like, oh, what do I have on my Monday calendar? Golf?

Speaker 1 It's bullshit. That's bullshit.
No, we got a photo shoot tomorrow. It's got to even out at some point.
It's got to even out at some point. I'm not feeling well for that photo shoot tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Well, we have to do it for merch, so it's mandatory. You'll be there.

Speaker 1 I am not a member of content of this show.

Speaker 1 You'll be there.

Speaker 1 No one wants to see me wear our merch. Everyone does.
I do. I do.
I would love to. Do you know how many sad max mugs we sold? That's a great point.
Great point. Such a good point.

Speaker 1 So you'll be there for the photo shoot. I hate our merch team.
This is. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Oh, damn scheduling this tomorrow is just it's just polar and allison are the best why are you doing that uh all right pft

Speaker 4 my who's back of the week is ja morant old old ja's back in the news i don't know if you guys checked social media today but uh ja was on instagram live he's addicted to going on instagram live and he had a gun in his hand allegedly he's addicted like a gun he's addicted to to holding guns on social media he did go to rehab for that for about three days, and I thought that he was cured.

Speaker 4 I think the NBA thought that he was cured of his addiction. But no, he's back at it, and people are saying that he should be suspended, which he was.

Speaker 4 People are saying he should be kicked off the grizzlies, which he has not been. Just suspended.

Speaker 4 I just want to say that let's remember that you have a first and second amendment in this country, so you can post whatever you want on social media, even if you happen to be holding a gun.

Speaker 4 I don't think that he was breaking any laws in this video, was he?

Speaker 4 He was just being a dumbass, dumbass, right?

Speaker 1 I don't think he has a permit for that gun. Well, so there's a couple laws being broken.

Speaker 1 It was still he hasn't gotten a bigger gun. Still

Speaker 1 bigger. That was a decent gun.
It was a little size up.

Speaker 1 It was a little size up, but dude, like, if you're going to get suspended from the Grizzlies, take out a bazooka. Like, do it.
And then second, it was for 115 viewers on Instagram Live.

Speaker 1 It looked like a 45. You have to do it for more viewers.

Speaker 1 I'm just speaking just straight facts. Like, have your gun debates over here.
I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 Bigger gun, more viewers, worth it. It was his friend.

Speaker 1 It's not worth it.

Speaker 4 It was his friend's Instagram Live.

Speaker 4 And then you could see the moment where he turned the camera to Ja, and then somebody hit the camera out of his hand real quick because it's like, no, Ja's got his gun out again.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 It was kind of funny to see that play out in real life.

Speaker 4 It's like, you should have one reason or one rule if you're ja's friend it's just don't go live on instagram when he has a gun in his hand right which might be more often than not yeah that's yeah it might be all the time don't go on instagram i'm just i'm i'm praying for ja i'm praying for ja that he gets another bout of treatment and uh three days later he's out of like whatever orlando halfway house that he went to and he's cured for another three months of holding a gun on a live stream yeah it's um it's a weird story he i also think ja like if i were defending ja

Speaker 1 in uh in front of like Adam Silver, I would just pull up all the hilarious tweets that happen every time Ja does this because it is very funny on Twitter whenever he does this and be like, look, it's good for like bringing people together.

Speaker 1 Like, look at all these, look at all these memes, look at all these jokes. This is kind of cool.
Like, everyone's getting along, getting jokes off on my expense.

Speaker 1 I'm actually doing a greater good for humanity by letting everyone do open mic night on like a Sunday morning.

Speaker 4 Yeah, this is what we do as a country. We highlight the negative and we dismiss the positive.

Speaker 4 If I'm defending him, I make a supercut of all the times that John Morant has not been holding a gun on Instagram live because it's probably been at least once or twice.

Speaker 4 And we can just focus in on those screenshots and be like, look, you're just, you're focusing in on what might be 1% of the time that he's live on Instagram is when he's actively holding a gun.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 4 I don't know what the Grizzlies do. Like,

Speaker 4 I have to imagine that the last time they had this conversation with Ja, they were like, hey,

Speaker 4 it's a pretty easy rule that you have to follow. It's just don't broadcast yourself holding a gun.
And then he did that long sit-down interview and he acted like he was a changed guy.

Speaker 4 If you're the Grizzlies,

Speaker 4 do you get rid of him? Do you move on from Jaw because

Speaker 4 he just is dumb? Because he's dumb as shit.

Speaker 1 I don't think so. And it has gotten a little

Speaker 1 weird with some of the debates being like, well, he's not doing anything anything illegal. He's also just not using his brain because essentially

Speaker 1 there's a couple things that happen. One is he's been in a couple gun incidents, the one with you know, the fight with the kid in his house, also his friends with the pacers.
So, like, those are bad.

Speaker 1 It's not like, oh, he's just a fanatical gun owner. There's been some times when he's used, he's flashed his gun in not great circumstances.

Speaker 1 And second, like, the Grizzlies are, it's pretty easy to be like, like, dude, don't flash your gun ever.

Speaker 1 And he went like one month. It's almost like a stupidity test of like, can you not flash your gun? And we'll be cool.
Like, go, go in the mirror and flash your gun to yourself. Do that all you want.

Speaker 1 But like, get, and you could say, like, well, it wasn't his Instagram live.

Speaker 1 I think also the Grizzlies' point is surround yourself with better people who might not just pop on Instagram Live while you are in the mood to flash your gun.

Speaker 4 Yeah, or just get a knife.

Speaker 1 Let's try

Speaker 4 downplaying it a little bit. Like, let's try to phase this out.
I don't want, I, by no means am I suggesting that you go cold turkey off deadly weapons, Jaw, because that, that can be deadly too.

Speaker 4 So, you just next time, have it be a sword. Like, go through all the ninja turtles.

Speaker 4 You can have it be a sword, and then the psy, and then the bow staff, and then the nunchuck, and then next thing you know, you're just walking around without a weapon.

Speaker 1 We could, we could go bear mace.

Speaker 1 we could go fucking we he could he could have uh you know brass knuckles yeah airsoft nerf gun yeah there's a lot of steps to rehabilitation here ultimately i don't think that like yeah the grizzlies would be dumb to move on from him but also ja morant is being dumb to just not follow one rule there's don't yeah it's don't don't flash a gun anymore pretty pretty simple instructions that he has to follow and and there will be some shows that probably have like a very serious conversation about ja and his like his future as a human and all that.

Speaker 4 I don't, I don't really feel the need to get into that or like pretend to understand what he does in his spare time and the friends that he has.

Speaker 4 But ideally, you would like to see this guy who's about to make hundreds of millions of dollars not blow that opportunity because he's dumb as shit.

Speaker 1 Do you know what the Grizzlies also could do?

Speaker 1 They could think like a Silicon Valley startup where they're like, well, we know you work so hard, so we'll put a kegerator in the office and a ping-pong table.

Speaker 1 And like on Friday afternoons, everyone can get drunk and it's like, oh, isn't this a great place to work?

Speaker 1 Why not like once a week, just have gun flashing parties in a private room in the Grizzlies facility so he can get that out of his system.

Speaker 1 It's like, everyone bring your gun and show your gun to everyone and like, and we'll have fun and we won't broadcast it. And then you walk out of it and you're like, man, that was fun.

Speaker 1 Can't wait to flash my gun next week at the gun flashing party.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but also in Memphis, when you got that, you got the Bass Pro Shop Pyramid right there with all the guns in the world inside, That's like asking a player in Las Vegas, don't go to any strip clubs.

Speaker 4 It's tough. It's a bad environment for Job being so close to essentially like the world's coolest indoor gun supermarket.

Speaker 1 We need to get more guns. We do not need to get more guns.

Speaker 1 Billy, you're the last person.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You do not need a gun.

Speaker 4 I forbid you from getting a gun ever.

Speaker 1 Billy would just, and I'm not saying this because I don't think Billy is like homicidal.

Speaker 1 Billy would just shoot random animals. He'd be shooting rats in the subway.

Speaker 1 Right, in the subway. Yeah.

Speaker 4 He should actually take a page out of Billy's playbook and be like, it was just an intrusive gun that I had. I didn't even mean to pull it out.

Speaker 1 All right. My who's back is, yeah, having children.
My third child was born.

Speaker 1 Wild, wild circumstances on Friday. We got to West Virginia for rough and rowdy.

Speaker 1 I was actually joking about it on the plane. It's like, oh, man, like, I'm close and like, we just got to get through these next eight hours.

Speaker 1 And then my wife called me right, like around like 6.15, right before doors open. She's like, yeah, my water just broke.
So

Speaker 1 went through the whole thing. It's still the coolest thing in the world.
I cried again.

Speaker 1 No shame in that.

Speaker 1 It's weird when you have a kid. There's two cries.
There's cry when the kid is being born because you're like, oh my God, this is like incredible.

Speaker 1 And then there's the 10 seconds that the kid hasn't cried yet and you're like, oh my God, he's not breathing. And then they do the, they like plunge their lungs and shit.

Speaker 1 So that that gets scary cry, but yeah, it's fucking cool. And I think that was the biggest thing that happened on Friday.

Speaker 4 So I was telling my friend that I was hanging out with on Friday. I was like, yeah, Big Cat just had, had another kid.
It's three.

Speaker 4 And then the thought occurred to me that there's going to be the first moment when you're at home.

Speaker 4 and you've got your baby and then maybe your wife has your daughter and then your son is in like a different room and makes a noise. Already happened.
Look at each other.

Speaker 1 Like, now, what do we do?

Speaker 4 Like, both of our hands are full. Already happened.

Speaker 4 How do we deal with three children?

Speaker 1 Already happened.

Speaker 1 Already happened this afternoon during the Celtic Sixers game.

Speaker 1 I would say the only tip, and I've only been a father of three for two days. The only tip I'd give is I bought like a big gift for

Speaker 1 my first son and my daughter, and I saved it for when the baby came so when the baby came home I was like look here's a gift and it was like a toy they could play with for like four hours which was a lifesaver so that was that was huge like they were just like having fun with the new toy so I would anyone who's having multiple children I would do that again because that was uh that was thinking quick on my feet I would think that there's going to be a number of loud noises from rooms that you're not in where you're just going to be like, oh, God, I don't know how to handle this.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's, it's, uh, but it definitely is.

Speaker 4 But I'm very happy for you. Yes.
That's very, it's a very, very cool moment. So I'm, I'm just, I'm very glad that you got to experience it.
Like, what a wonderful moment for you on Friday.

Speaker 4 What a great, great thing that happened to this podcast on Friday. It really is.

Speaker 1 And I'm done. Three's it.
I'm done. Four's, I mean, three's already a lot.
Snip, snip. I don't know.
I think

Speaker 4 get on TRT.

Speaker 1 TRT? Yeah. Why? Then I would want to have more kids.
No, no, no. Your fertility would be gone.
Okay, then I'll get on TRT. Yeah.
Fuck it. Get jacked.
Get on TRT. But yeah, having kids rules.

Speaker 1 So anyone who's thinking about doing it, all the dads out there. PFT soon.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Maybe we'll do an FAQ dad version sometime, and I'll listen to you guys answer questions how you would do it, and then I can answer how I do it.
But yeah,

Speaker 4 I feel like I should address that now because

Speaker 4 enough people have tweeted at me, and it wasn't a whole bunch, but at the end of Friday's show, I had been planning on the first time hank gets a lottery ball to just say that i'm having a kid just to take all the air out of the room and to remove any sort of joy or accomplishment that hank had i even told hank that i was going to do this because i was like i was thinking about doing this but then i thought no i'm not going to joke about that and i told hank about that a month ago when we were down in texas And then it happened on the show and Hank completely forgot that I told him I was going to do that in advance.

Speaker 4 And so for the record, I'm very happy just with my one child, chris who's really happy by the way because dustin johnson won go aces ace is still the top of the table i know but they the four aces one one shot back they almost had a the first fourth ace

Speaker 1 he already forgot you line david yeah peter don't and who wait who are the other three hank dustin johnson pat perez uh patrick reed and okay

Speaker 4 peter you line yeah there you go yeah there you go but yeah big big weekend for chris's aces so he's happy and i didn't have to explain to him you're not going to have a younger sibling.

Speaker 1 Big Cat's, I don't know if it was on the YouTube, but I didn't believe you.

Speaker 1 But Big Cat did a great job selling it with his face to me where I was like, he gave me a face that was like, I'm being dead serious.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because I knew obviously you were joking because you told me. But that was, that was what I was like, I had to really question myself when Big Cat was giving me like the ounce.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. But Big Cat does have cancer.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I do. And Jake doesn't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 Jake doesn't give a fuck. That's not true.
Also, shout out my firstborn son who this morning said to me, You're being really bossy. You should try to sleep more.

Speaker 1 And it was literally the, I think you should leave hot dog. Like, we're all trying to find the guy who did this.
I'm like, yeah, I shouldn't sleep more. Thanks a lot, dude.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, having kids rocks.

Speaker 1 It was awesome. Also, very cool whenever, you know, obviously my third kid, but like the outpouring of love from everyone on the internet is.

Speaker 1 pretty crazy always like kind of shocks me and uh yeah thank you for everyone who reached out thank you for everyone congratulated me.

Speaker 1 Thank you to memes who congratulated me before my child was born, which is like the most intense couple hours where you're like, I hope this kid comes out healthy, uh, and almost jinx the whole thing.

Speaker 1 Thank God it wasn't Max who did that because then my kid would be dead. But uh, what he Max has that power, he's such a loser.
Uh, but yeah, thank you to everyone for reaching out.

Speaker 1 It really is the fucking best.

Speaker 4 What did your older kids think of the new baby?

Speaker 1 Uh, son, who's now four four or about to be four, super pumped. Daughter, who's middle child, who also, like, is, I can already tell, is me,

Speaker 1 just flopped on the floor and threw a temper tantrum. So, to be expected.

Speaker 1 I mean, she's a middle child, so she's going to be like, fuck this. Like,

Speaker 1 I'm not the baby anymore. This is bullshit.
So, but

Speaker 1 she's only two, so she gets a pass.

Speaker 4 Billy, who's back at the window? My who's back is Israel Adesanya.

Speaker 4 His girlfriend is suing him for breaking up with her, and it's kind of a weird situation where she's basically trying to like get some of his money that he made while they were together, but they were never married.

Speaker 4 So just weird situation.

Speaker 1 Dan Bilzerian warned us about this on the podcast We Could Never Air.

Speaker 4 He did. There was actually a wealth of information and life advice that Dan gave us that we'll have to just sprinkle it out here and here and there.

Speaker 1 I never heard it. Can I hear it?

Speaker 3 Is it on the drop box?

Speaker 4 No, because

Speaker 4 your brain would absorb absorb everything and be like, this guy rocks. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They were PFD and Big Hat. We're trying to cancel them.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Billy, we're actually trying to protect all the you's out there from ever listening

Speaker 1 to this.

Speaker 1 Okay, so is she going to win? I don't know. She supported him.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 She get a little.

Speaker 1 Like a little tape. Wet the peak.
Yeah. Nothing crazy, but wet the peak.
100K? Yeah, sure. Why not? I don't know.
Yeah. For what? I don't know.
supporting him

Speaker 1 so what the beak i support him

Speaker 1 do you really support him she was like his dick

Speaker 1 so she's she's claiming she's a sex worker no that's not what i'm saying but will you support him emotionally she was with him physically out by piera who

Speaker 1 so was like where were you 5 000 people all right hank get on this lawsuit i mean i'm i'm curious what what her argument is especially there's not if they didn't get married yeah not getting married is pretty tough to win this one this would be like a landmark case if she wins

Speaker 1 probably not a great precedent yeah okay yeah I agree good point Hank

Speaker 1 Jake

Speaker 1 my who's back is majors it's major week PGA championship at Oak Hill in Rochester the full field was announced and can't wait hopefully our guys do well yeah I'm rooting for uh I think I'm gonna see if I can do it on the sports book a some type of live I think a live guy is gonna win either Johnson smith kepka whoa maybe patrick read okay who or

Speaker 1 today though it was it was crazy i am i am you're a live head i'm a live head i was watching today it was on the cw and there was a rain delay so it got you know postponed two hours it pushed two hours late and right at 630 it was tied

Speaker 1 cam uh cam smith dustin johnson two holes left and they just cut it cut it from tv because of because of like they and they were but they weren't even running anything like

Speaker 1 seventh heaven had to play yeah they were running they were running like frazier reruns uh so i had to watch on the website so that was a little nuts that's how hardcore you are yeah you went to the website i like watching good golf dustin johnson cam smith brooks some of the best golfers in the world if they're at the top of the leaderboard i'll be watching and i think they're gonna be at the top of the leaderboard this week i think maximum can we just let's focus this energy on on brooks if you're gonna pick any live golfer i'd like to see you just say brooks yes yeah i like Brooks.

Speaker 1 I'm a big Dustin Jones. I don't sound like that too.

Speaker 4 Sound like there's a question mark at the end of that.

Speaker 1 I like Brooks. I love Brooks.
Okay. You love him? Yeah.
As much as Max loves dogs.

Speaker 1 Max, you got a who's back for us? Fucking dogs. That was all of that.
You don't? You don't have a who's back? Never done a who's back once in my life. What about your chins? Good point.

Speaker 1 Your chins are back.

Speaker 4 My alternate who's back is Bryce Harper.

Speaker 6 He got in a brawl today.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's good. Your chips certainly are back.

Speaker 4 Max, we got to hit the squat rec this week.

Speaker 1 That's not going to do anything.

Speaker 1 Max,

Speaker 4 how quickly, realistically, do you think it's going to take for you to grow that facial hair back?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Not as quickly as you think. You're an Italian.

Speaker 1 Like, I haven't shaved in eight years. That doesn't matter.
How is that possible? Max, Max thinks Max fell for the, you know, like if you shave it, it, it rose back faster. That's true.

Speaker 1 That basically is what they do to get 13-year-olds to buy razors. No, that's true.

Speaker 4 I can confirm that doesn't work.

Speaker 1 I did it, and it worked. And you just kept on shaving every day?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 my brother, my dad, like, my dad's out of hand. Sounds like you guys have facial hair.

Speaker 1 None of them can? No. So

Speaker 1 all your facial hair is due to hard work.

Speaker 1 Yeah, coincidence. I don't think so.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Hank has proven it. Every day in middle school, I would just shave my face.

Speaker 1 I'm being dead serious. That's amazing.
Oh,

Speaker 1 Max, you got this.

Speaker 1 I want it gone.

Speaker 1 Your face?

Speaker 1 Sure. Everything.
All of it gone. All right.
We got a great interview with JJ Watt. Let's get to that.
And then we're going to announcement on the lottery ball machine after that.

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Speaker 4 And now, here's JJ Watt.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on our good friend, recurring guest. It is JJ Watt in studio.
He's here in New York City because he's a team owner now. A governor.
Governor?

Speaker 1 My lord. Steward.
Steward. He's a steward.

Speaker 1 The news is out. He has purchased an interest in Burnley FC.
Yes.

Speaker 1 He is part of the Championship League, soon to be the EPL, though. They're getting promoted.

Speaker 2 Yes, winners of the championship.

Speaker 1 Yeah, winners of the championship. Now let's start there.
Are you a frontrunner? Because you bought a team that was already promoted.

Speaker 2 Well, at the time we started, it wasn't promoted okay so partially but yeah why not yeah how did you get involved with them i've been looking for a long time into into ownership and trying to find the right opportunity and trying to find the right situation we were actually talking um looking at a different situation somebody said have you spoken to burnley and we knew that when we were looking at this we wanted to wait until we found the right one to go all in with and um burnley kind of ticked all the boxes with the ownership group with the manager in place with the town it's a very small old mill town, been through some adversity over the years, but the club's been around since 1882.

Speaker 2 Fan base lives and dies every single week, and they do a lot of good work in the community. They have a great fan base, so we're really, really excited about it.

Speaker 1 Now, how does it work when you buy a minority stake in a team?

Speaker 1 Do you have like a seat at the table? Are you going to get to make decisions? Because fans are going to be pissed at you if things go bad. Can they point to you and be like...

Speaker 2 Do you speak from experience?

Speaker 1 Yes, unfortunately, I do.

Speaker 1 Listen, Swansea's in the middle of the table in the Championship Championship League. We're going to work our way back up.
And if we don't, that's just how life goes.

Speaker 1 But are you ready for it if, like, they will point to you? Oh, no doubt.

Speaker 2 There is no doubt that they're going to point to me.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 I don't have that level of C. I mean, at the end of the day, it all comes down to

Speaker 2 it's a sport. Like, that's the fascinating part about investing in a sport at the end of the day.
You can do everything that you want to do from a front office standpoint.

Speaker 2 You can try and create everything possible, but the ball could hit the post and go in the net. The ball could hit the post and go out of the net.

Speaker 2 And it still still comes down to that's the beauty of it. And that's why I love the English Premier League because it's relegation, it's promotion.
It's there's the consequences are so much higher.

Speaker 1 You should make your wife the coach.

Speaker 1 She's a professional soccer player.

Speaker 2 She, she would be, I mean, she's brilliant at it. Yeah.
Our coach is pretty, pretty good.

Speaker 1 I heard you.

Speaker 1 Before this, you came in, you were saying he sucks. You're the first, first order business.

Speaker 2 Well, I mean,

Speaker 2 I'm trying to knock his value down because every club in the entire world is trying to take him away from us right now. Everybody.

Speaker 2 Everybody's trying to take him.

Speaker 1 You should play.

Speaker 2 He's been very loyal.

Speaker 2 I've tried. So during lockdown, COVID,

Speaker 2 back in Wisconsin, we got some land and I built a field for my wife for her to practice because she was still playing. And I was going out there to be her training partner.

Speaker 2 And I was pretty confident in myself going into it. And I am no longer confident in myself.

Speaker 1 Were you playing goalie? Yeah.

Speaker 2 She fired that ball past my head at such a velocity that we made a rule where she couldn't kick from 18 yards yards or closer because you take your head clear off.

Speaker 4 Now, when you say that you built a field for her, you mowed a lawn? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 what a joking statement.

Speaker 1 What a ridiculous statement. You put a goal in a lawn.

Speaker 2 I mowed the lawn, I put the net up, and I lined the field.

Speaker 1 Oh, that actually counts.

Speaker 2 That counts.

Speaker 1 I did the line. No, you built a field.
That's very romantic. Yeah, you built your wife a field.
Yeah, you feel the dreams. Field the dreams.
Yeah, if you build it, she will come. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 whoops. Really like that one.

Speaker 1 Wait, so are you going to go? How many games are you going to go to? Because that is like, that would be the fun part. Like, you see Ryan Reynolds and like how people are going nuts for those guys.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So we were over there a couple weeks ago. We took in a game.
We won 3-0 against Wigan. And we're going back over there on Friday because on Monday is our final home game.
Gonna lift the trophy.

Speaker 2 Gonna have the parade.

Speaker 1 You are a front runner. Oh, I mean, you literally showed up.
It does not hurt. It does not hurt to come and join the parade.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 So make the case.

Speaker 4 If anybody out there is a free agent, why should they support Burnley? Full disclosure, I'm a West Ham fan. Okay.
Come on, you irons. Yeah.
I think that's what they say.

Speaker 4 The same colors, but same colors. I literally, so when I was trying to figure out what team to root for in the EPL, I just kind of asked

Speaker 4 who would fit in with my style, with the teams that I already root for. And our friend Tom Fernelli advised me to cheer for West Ham.

Speaker 2 What made him say that?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 4 they're not very good, but they've got a lot of hooligans, and

Speaker 4 they're owned by, I think, a pornographer.

Speaker 1 Oh, a former pornographer.

Speaker 1 But I mean, yeah, totally.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 I'm not like straight up.

Speaker 4 I'm not dyed in the wool as a West Ham supporter. But if I was a free agent, sell me on Burnley.

Speaker 2 Well, so you already have the colors in your closet. So it's a pretty easy transition.

Speaker 2 So Burnley, like I said, it was founded in 1882, and it was part of the original English Football League and creating English football, basically.

Speaker 2 It's an old mill town, really, really old school. been through some difficult times.
The people are incredible.

Speaker 2 They show up and fill a 22,000 seat stadium every week and they live and die every single week with the club. And it's we're playing a beautiful style of football right now.

Speaker 2 For the last eight to ten years, we played an extremely hard-nosed, tough physical style of football. Vince and companies kind of come in and transition the team to a very beautiful flowing style.

Speaker 2 And I mean, we just score goals.

Speaker 1 We score a lot of goals. Okay, I'm because I don't think the Swansea is going to go up at any time soon.
So

Speaker 1 I might have to root for Burnley.

Speaker 2 You're welcome aboard. You're welcome aboard.
The place is nuts. The people are great.
The drinks are quite good.

Speaker 1 Now,

Speaker 1 was there a moment when you invest in the team and you're like, this all just started because I woke up early and started watching soccer?

Speaker 1 Because obviously your wife played soccer, but I feel like you were watching EPL early morning, Saturdays, and Sundays.

Speaker 1 It feels like for a long time.

Speaker 2 100%. So back in 2010, 2011, I started to watch the Premier League.
They have it on. Obviously, NBC does a great job with it.
And I started to get into it then. that was when I didn't know anything.

Speaker 2 So I was trying to find my team.

Speaker 2 I think that it's come a long way since then, but there's still a lot of people in that boat today trying to figure out, okay, I like watching the EPL, but I don't have a team and reason to affiliate with somebody.

Speaker 2 And that's honestly what KNR are trying to do is trying to give people a reason to be on Team Burnley.

Speaker 1 It's the greatest hangover move on like a set.

Speaker 1 Because I remember before I had kids, like there were the Saturdays and Sundays, just getting up and laying on the couch and watching a ball move on grass was like like therapeutic.

Speaker 1 And then it's a perfect nap. I mean, no offense to soccer, but it is a perfect nap sport.

Speaker 2 It can provide that.

Speaker 1 Because you can usually like, you'll like listen, you'll be half listening, falling asleep. And then when they come really loud, you're like, oh, shit, sick.

Speaker 2 They've done such a good job with it. And I think that America really has come along.
I mean, if you just think about the conversation around soccer in the last 10 years, how it's grown.

Speaker 2 And the women have been doing an incredible job. And we're excited about the women's team at Burnley too and helping.
They're in the third division right now.

Speaker 2 And we're working to get them up to the first division.

Speaker 2 But I think soccer's come a long way and I think it still has a long way to go with the World Cup and the Olympics coming to America in the next five, six years.

Speaker 2 It's really been fun to watch and I'm excited to be a part of the next phase.

Speaker 4 What's your hashtag and what's your team slogan?

Speaker 2 Yeah, so it's UTC, which is up the clarets. So we're the clarets.
Claret and blue are our colors and it's up the clarets.

Speaker 4 Up the clarets, okay, I like that.

Speaker 1 I like that.

Speaker 1 Do you feel like you kind of turn your back on American football? This feels a little bit like that.

Speaker 4 Benedict Arnold, a little bit?

Speaker 2 I mean, I think there's still going to be some involvement there. I don't know in what capacity, but there definitely will be.
And I think that there can be a bridge gapped.

Speaker 1 I think I can gap the bridge.

Speaker 2 Okay. A big bridge.
It's got to be a big bridge.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Maybe get them to start playing more football, real football.

Speaker 2 Maybe.

Speaker 2 Working on a little bit less of the flopping.

Speaker 1 That is

Speaker 1 something I'm

Speaker 4 coming to. Embellishing is what they call it.

Speaker 1 That's good.

Speaker 4 Yeah. The embellishments are a bit much.
But I've noticed in the women's game, they don't embellish as much, hardly at all.

Speaker 2 It's unbelievable. Like when I watch my wife's games and I watch the women play, they pride themselves on not embellishing.
Like, they'll have like a broken leg and just keep playing.

Speaker 2 Yeah, there was a there was literally, I believe it was Lynn Williams the other day, was playing with like a splint attached to her arm, and she scored the game-winning goal with a splint.

Speaker 1 Neymar would be in the hospital forever, you'd be dead. Yeah, you just cremate me.
Yeah, wait, so uh, American football, we are getting so we saw the draft. Yep, uh, OTAs are starting.

Speaker 1 Yep, have you had the feeling like, oh, this is, you know, my biological clock here, like the calendar year, this is right when I should be getting back with the boys?

Speaker 2 I have had the exact opposite, which is really good for me, which I watched, like, I watch on it.

Speaker 2 I'll scroll through Instagram and there'll be clips of guys at training or at OTAs and they're flying around, they're doing drills.

Speaker 2 And I'm literally looking at it like, thank God I don't have to go out there and try and tackle that guy. Or thank God I don't have to try and go out there and be faster than that guy.

Speaker 2 Like, I don't know how I mentally switched so much in five months, but like all of a sudden I feel like I couldn't go out there and compete.

Speaker 4 So during the draft, your two teams were very active with each other, right? So you have to tell us who fleeced who, the Texans or the Cardinals?

Speaker 2 I think if you actually look at it, they kind of both accomplished what they want to accomplish.

Speaker 1 No, I mean, somebody got fleeced, JJ. It's JJ Watt trade.
Well, what do you,

Speaker 1 we don't know. We have no clue who's going to be a good player.

Speaker 4 No, but that's the fun. It's like it's right after the draft.
You get to say, oh,

Speaker 1 you flee them.

Speaker 2 I think the Texans are basically saying to their fan base, hey, we've gone through a very rough period.

Speaker 2 Now we're going for it. Now we're actually doing it.
Now we're going all in. We're trying to win, and we're trying to win.
Now, we hired D'Amico, we got these two draft picks, it's going to be great.

Speaker 2 Arizona seems to be saying the opposite a little bit.

Speaker 2 They seem to be saying, Hey, we're loading up, we're getting a ton of picks, we're moving back, we're doing these things, we're going to really go after it in the next few years. So,

Speaker 4 it's just two different

Speaker 1 Arizona.

Speaker 2 I mean, for today, we don't know, we don't know in the long term, and I also have no idea. I don't know if anybody does how the draft value, like the trades and everything, actually works.
Right.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Uh, speaking of draft, we we mentioned this on Monday's show, but we were going through because we agree, like, draft grades are dumb. You don't know how these guys are going to turn out.

Speaker 1 Every fan wants to go and see their, you know, an A next to their draft grade. So you just go, there's a million people grading the draft.
Go find the A and just read that one.

Speaker 1 But we had some funny old takes exposed.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you know any of these, but a guy named Chris Baldwin on the Houston Culture Map wrote an article saying, Texans will rue the night they took Pizza Boy J.J.

Speaker 1 Watt over Nick Fairley, Houston lover.

Speaker 2 I do recall.

Speaker 1 Okay, Pizza Boy's a good. Pizza Boy.
Maybe you were Pizza Boy before Dave was Pizza Boy.

Speaker 1 No. He's Pizza Man.

Speaker 2 He is Pizza Man. Pizza Man child.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, I was Pizza Boy. It was a hell of a job.
Yeah, I can't lie. That's a good job.

Speaker 4 It is. It's a great college job.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you can catch around, listening to music, and you pay, you know, you get tips, cash.

Speaker 4 How long did you work as a pizza guy? Pizza Boy. Pizza Boy.
Pizza Boy, boy.

Speaker 2 Pizza boy boy. No, I wasn't a grown man.
It was literally four or five months. It was my transition from central Michigan to Wisconsin.

Speaker 2 I went to a local community college and I delivered pizzas and worked out.

Speaker 1 The other ones were Carrington Harrison. I don't know who that is.
Said J.J. Watt has bust written all over him.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 And then there's also, he also included a Facebook post by the Texans saying with the 11th pick in the 2011 draft, Houston Texans selected Wisconsin defensive and J.J.

Speaker 1 Watt, and everyone is just saying, no, boo,

Speaker 1 not a good decision. Did you read that draft night? Like, did you consume any of that and use it?

Speaker 2 Yes. So draft night, it's fascinating.

Speaker 2 I mean, you get drafted, you're in New York City, obviously, you do all the media and everything around it, and then you go back to your hotel room, and you can't, I mean, the adrenaline is just flowing through you.

Speaker 2 You can't sleep. I mean, your whole life literally just changed.
So I sat there in bed and you do. You just scroll through it all.
You kind of read it. And I'm sitting there like jacked up.

Speaker 2 I'm excited. I just finished all my media talking all positive about Houston and then I'm laying there in bed just scrolling through my phone like wait a second.
Yeah. Nobody fucking likes me.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Why do these people not like me? Yeah.

Speaker 2 This whole city. And it did for me trigger like the, okay, I'm going to, I'm going to show these people.
I'm going to come in and I'm going to give them every single reason to root for me.

Speaker 2 And that's kind of my goal is to overturn these fans and make them understand and get them on my side. And it kind of became a challenge of mine.

Speaker 2 And I'm very fortunate that they were open-minded enough to switch and come along with me because Houston is literally like family. Now, I was just there last week.

Speaker 2 I'm going back there tomorrow, and Houston truly feels like family every time I step in that city.

Speaker 4 Can you be an ambassador for Houston, real quick?

Speaker 4 Because every time we go there, and it might be the events that we show up for, it's like the Final Four, if there's a Super Bowl, it takes 40 minutes to get anywhere in Houston.

Speaker 2 Yes, no, I can't ambassador for the traffic or the humidity. Those are the two things I will say: the Chamber of Commerce there needs to get to work.

Speaker 2 But for food and fans, Houston is the greatest city, is the most underrated food city in possibly the world it is good how do you avoid just getting fat as hell in Houston if you're you don't go that often that's why I mean it's so good and you're bouncing back and forth between Houston and Wisconsin when you were playing there and that's that's got to be tough to stay in shape yeah it's almost more impressive now that I think about it yeah are you are you still lifting uh yeah but not nearly as much like if I miss a day I miss a day it's not a big deal it's it's a way more stress-free way of living my life I just so when I pulled up here I had to go to the bathroom really badly and I didn't know we were in front of your building so I asked the driver can you let me out he let me out I went to Walgreens Dwayne Reed they don't have a public bathroom yeah coffee shop they don't have New York doesn't do public bathrooms apparently so I went across the street to a triple crown Irish pub yep and I was like hey can I just buy I'll give you five bucks to go to the bathroom so I just I got a pint of Guinness went to the bathroom came back out bar owner apparently a massive fan lived in Ireland is from Ireland we happen to play the same golf course in ireland and uh he bought me a pint so chugged a pint and came up here Oh, hell yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was great.

Speaker 1 It was great.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's kind of a, in the back of your head, you know when you're slapping a $5 bill being like, I'm going to use the bathroom.

Speaker 1 You know, when you come out of the bathroom, they're like, that's JJ Watt. It's good.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. There were like three guys at the bar drinking beer.
Yeah. I mean, it's what, noon on a Tuesday.
I love it.

Speaker 4 You could have just gone in and been like, hey, I'm JJ Watt. Can I piss in your bathroom?

Speaker 2 No, there was a sign on the door that specifically said, bathroom is for paying customers only on this door. And then when you turn right, that door.

Speaker 2 So I was like, all right, I'm not going to be a dick.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I feel like if you're a three-time defensive player, that you can just say, like, hey, can JJ Watt use your urinal?

Speaker 1 Yeah, and then that should.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that should get you into it. J.J.
Watt needs his hits.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. Get out of the way.

Speaker 1 How's the golf? Wait, whoa, one last question about lifting. So are you squatting for weight still? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. No, squatting is my favorite act.
I enjoy it.

Speaker 1 Feed the wolf. What are you squatting right now?

Speaker 2 I mean, I don't go above 405 anymore.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Yeah.
Yeah. I usually

Speaker 1 wrap up. 405 only on like when I'm feeling good.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean, it's, you you know, you hit a couple casual. Billy knows.
It's uh, you just hit some casual. Actually, you're only a bencher, aren't you?

Speaker 1 No, no, I squat too.

Speaker 4 Squat was my best lift. So on that topic, were you really like doing 585 as your work set at your prime?

Speaker 2 In my prime, yes. In my prime, it was, we did some crazy shit, man.

Speaker 1 Like my brothers and I will talk about it.

Speaker 2 My trainer back home. Yeah, we did some crazy.

Speaker 4 Like, what was your set to weight? Like, were you doing three by four, 585?

Speaker 2 No, that was 585 was three to five. Like we'd get up to fives.

Speaker 2 But the most I ever remember physically putting on the bar, it was, I know it was right around 700. I don't know if it was 695 or 705.

Speaker 1 Do you just get instantly hungry after that? Dude,

Speaker 2 it was fucking crazy, man. My trainer and I talk about it all the time.
We had some unbelievable days and some of the shit was just dumb. That's probably why I ended up in the injury position I did.

Speaker 2 But also there were times where you'd finish a workout and you'd just kind of look around like.

Speaker 2 Nobody else on the fucking planet is doing what we just did. Yeah.
That was the greatest feeling ever.

Speaker 2 But again, like that probably also led a little bit to the injuries because I couldn't not do that.

Speaker 2 Every part of me was like, you have to outdo yourself now. Nobody else can do that.
Now you outdo that. And it just led to.

Speaker 1 I feel like a lot of players now, they don't lift for heavy weights. So were you like one of the like almost a dinosaur sometimes where it's like you're the only guy who's lifting for heavy weights?

Speaker 2 I do think that players and trainings, trainers have gotten a lot smarter about like, you don't need like the risk reward for getting up to those levels of weights, it doesn't make any sense because you have a much greater chance of hurting yourself than you you do of gaining that 0.01% chance of improvement.

Speaker 2 So there's a lot of guys doing it at just staying at a certain level. And it's because it is all about being on the field.
If you're not on the field, you can't do shit.

Speaker 2 And it's something that I talk to my brother a lot about because he grew up with me and we grew up the same style and he wants to go heavy, heavy, heavy.

Speaker 2 And I try and tell him, hey, just don't make the same mistakes I made. Like be smart about it.
If you're not on the field, nobody gives a shit if you can squat 700 pounds. Yeah.
You're not playing.

Speaker 4 Have you ever had a big squat workout and then woken up the next day and you've got practice or you've got a game and you're like, oh, shit, I shouldn't have done that leg.

Speaker 4 Because anybody out there that squatted for the first time in a long time without having done that exercise, you know, the feeling where you just feel disabled.

Speaker 1 You can't walk.

Speaker 4 Have you ever worked out too close to an important game?

Speaker 2 No, because

Speaker 2 if I'm having that feeling that close to a game, that means I haven't squatted in a long time leading up to it. And that would be bad.

Speaker 2 But the first squat of the offseason is exactly what you talk about. I mean, you go to sit on the toilet the next day and it's about, you get up, you're like, holy.

Speaker 1 I like that pain, though. There's something about it that like feels like when you just, the next day, when you're like, oh, my body is like so sore.

Speaker 2 I actually did something.

Speaker 1 Yeah, when's the last time you had it? Uh, I've I've been actually trying to get back in the gym, doing a little lifting, um, trying to go lower weights because I'm gonna break my back.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to get to the thousand-pound club, it's gonna take a while. Nice, so we'll see.
So, I've had a thousand-pound club.

Speaker 2 I'm trying to remember, is that just bench and squat?

Speaker 1 Is that bench squat and deadlift? So, you could have gotten it, what, with one, one and a half of those lifts easily. I mean, back in the day, yeah, yeah, yeah, it doesn't

Speaker 1 sound as cool, thousand-pound club when you just said you

Speaker 4 squatted 785.

Speaker 2 That was a big high school thing. Like, we got the t-shirts that said, like, 500-pound club, 600.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, that's a big deal. In my 20s, I was definitely in the thousand-pound club.
I just don't, I'm trying to see if I can get back to it, but I'm trying not to get injured. That's the part.

Speaker 1 I mean, yeah, that's

Speaker 2 if you're not available, right?

Speaker 1 You're not useful, right? Right.

Speaker 4 So, you talked about your brother. Uh, there's some rumors out there flying around that you are still entertaining an idea of maybe playing for the Steelers next year.

Speaker 4 And as our good friend Jersey Jerry said, he just looks like a Steeler, you know? And you have to admit, like you've seen yourself in the mirror. You look like a Steeler.

Speaker 2 Thank you. I appreciate that.
That's a compliment. The Steelers fans are literally one of the best fan bases I've ever witnessed in my life.

Speaker 2 Everywhere I go, hey, I love you, but I'm a huge Steelers fan, so I love your brother. Hey, come to the Steelers.
Hey, come play. We love Pittsburgh.
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 I mean, if the rumors... keep Burnley in the news and make it a big deal that we're with Burnley, sure.
But no, I will not be playing for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 2 I will be going to a game at Heinz Field to watch my brother play.

Speaker 1 It's not Heinz Field anymore, dude. It's Heinz Field.
No, it's always Heinz Field.

Speaker 4 What is it even now?

Speaker 1 It's Heinzfield. I love when Acrosser

Speaker 2 put their ketchup bottles back in.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I do love when a new company takes over. It's like, no, no, no, we're not calling it that.
No, it's

Speaker 1 not.

Speaker 4 What are you trying to do? I mean, last time you were on the show, you did say that if you got, what, $10 million to come play in December?

Speaker 1 Yes, to the Steelers?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Week 17, $10 million. That's still on the table.

Speaker 1 So you're going to stay in shape for that?

Speaker 1 No. Okay.
No. All right.

Speaker 1 That's the end of the whole reason.

Speaker 2 I think I told you last time, that's the whole reason that I can tell you right now for a fact I'm not coming back. Like I, for me to play this season, I would have to be training right now.

Speaker 2 And my body, if I went out there to play right now, it would not perform. I haven't run since the last game of the season.
So like I could not physically do it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you think you're going to watch football like we watch football? Are you going to watch every game?

Speaker 2 No, I definitely won't watch every game. I'm going to watch it much more as a fan.

Speaker 1 So you're a casual. We can confidently say you're a casual.
100%. No ball.

Speaker 2 But if I get into broadcasting and do something like that, then I will certainly watch more.

Speaker 2 But I'm going to watch my brothers' games for sure. I'm going to obviously keep up with Houston and the Cardinals.
And then Little Badgers. Whatever's good.
Oh, of course. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Is that on the table for you to become do like some broadcasting television work?

Speaker 2 I would like to at least give it a shot. I mean, I want to be around the game.
I love the game too much. I want to be around the game.
I want to be a part of it.

Speaker 2 And I do feel like I have knowledge and experience that can help enhance the viewers experience and tell talk about things that they might not see or things that I've learned over the years.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it sounds like you need you need some reps. You need some practice if you're going to be a color guy on TV.
You know, a lot of analogies.

Speaker 2 Somebody can just step into it like Jake.

Speaker 4 They do simulated games and our good friend Jake Marsh here, he's made the offer of Tom Brady.

Speaker 4 I don't know if you'd like to extend the same offer to JJ Watt that if you want to get reps in the booth, Jake will be your play-by-play guy.

Speaker 4 You'll watch film and then you'll just act like you're commentating a game. Jake, is that fair?

Speaker 2 He's done a great job with the water dogs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he does. Yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 9 Free of charge, whatever you want.

Speaker 1 Free.

Speaker 2 I mean, you're not going to make a lot of great career out of him doing things for free, Jake. Well, with you, for practice.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Let's do it.

Speaker 1 I'll take money.

Speaker 4 You can pay me for the rights to Jake. Yeah.

Speaker 4 We do own the Water Dogs. It's interesting that you brought that up.
I'll trade you 1% in the Water Dogs for 1% of your whatever percent in Burns.

Speaker 1 And I will throw in 1% of Swansea.

Speaker 2 Oh. Well, if you throw in 1% of the Washington team, the Commanders.

Speaker 4 Well, so I've got

Speaker 1 New Year

Speaker 1 New Zealand Breakers, too.

Speaker 4 If RG3 gets his 1%,

Speaker 4 then I think I'm going to get 1% of

Speaker 4 RG3s. So you get like whatever that is.

Speaker 4 1,000.

Speaker 4 It's probably still $70 million, I think.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's a lot of money. It's too much.

Speaker 2 No, that's the thing people don't understand about ownership.

Speaker 1 It's expensive. It's not too large.
Not too large. Very large.
That's actually why it's become popular to buy soccer teams because the relegation keeps the cost down.

Speaker 1 They're not going to go for these insane NFL prices.

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Speaker 4 So, JJ, you mentioned being like a bridge between American football and British football. There are some rumors out there this offseason.

Speaker 4 I don't know if you've seen them, that the NFL is considering starting a European division.

Speaker 1 Yes, I think. Well, all the teams.

Speaker 4 Have you heard anything about that? And is that factoring at all into your newfound interest in Great Britain?

Speaker 2 I think it would certainly be interesting. I have not heard anything about formalization of that just purely from a logistics standpoint.

Speaker 2 It is an absolute nightmare to how you would possibly make that work. I do think that if they had their way, that would absolutely be in the cards.

Speaker 2 I just think making that work, not only from a lifestyle living standpoint, from a competition standpoint, how would you possibly make that work?

Speaker 4 It'd be tough. You'd basically only have to play each other.
in the European division.

Speaker 1 And I think they were saying they were having facilities in New York where they basically come for like

Speaker 2 where do their families live? Like where do their kids go to school?

Speaker 4 Yeah, it sounds like a nightmare, honestly.

Speaker 2 Like it's really, really tough. That's the stuff that it absolutely sounds great.

Speaker 2 Even like right now, the Germany games, the England games, all that, they're incredible and they're awesome and we love them.

Speaker 2 But it also, at the same time, it is extremely difficult on the players, on your bodies, on everything that comes along with it. So

Speaker 2 it's pretty cool. Germany's far.
That's a

Speaker 1 very far. How's your golf game?

Speaker 2 Trash.

Speaker 1 What are you shooting right now?

Speaker 2 It is getting better which i will say which i'm proud of but like my best round this year so far is a 96.

Speaker 1 so oh that is trash no you're right that is trash um but that's my best round so and you're playing a lot i'm not playing as much as i want to i think it's going to pick up over the summer you got to like that's i feel like that's the golf the the the golden like equation is you can't play enough and still be trash so you got to either be like i'm not going to play like i don't play i'm trash yes so i can be like well i don't play that's why i'm trash if you start playing a lot and you're still trash,

Speaker 2 that's tough. I'm on the edge of that zone.
I'm on the edge of that zone.

Speaker 1 You got to find it.

Speaker 2 It's tough.

Speaker 2 It's tough because I get so pissed because I'm big, like I'm strong, I'm athletic. I consider myself to be an athlete.
None of it fucking helps me out there.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do better than your brothers, though? Yes. Okay, then you're fine.

Speaker 4 Do you walk or do you drive?

Speaker 2 Oh, I drive.

Speaker 1 Absolutely.

Speaker 1 I can't walk.

Speaker 2 Really? I walked to the waste management open when I did the program there. I walked all 18.

Speaker 2 It's just, that is a commitment and it's a lot of walking.

Speaker 1 It's tiring.

Speaker 4 Have you ever, uh, like, if you just need a workout real quick, have you thought about just jumping and like we have a planet fitness around the corner, just like working out with everybody else, going there to see how fast they hit the lunk alarm on you?

Speaker 2 I'm probably gonna do it at the hotel gym today. You have no free weights at the hotel, which is, I know, it is, but yeah, I mean, I also don't need to work out like I used to.

Speaker 2 Like, my workouts now are significantly different. You're a bit in shambles at the moment, honestly.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you look, it's a bit of a discussion. You look like shit, you look terrible, dude.
You look so fat.

Speaker 4 Yeah, oh, last time you were on, you said that that you were looking forward to smoking weed for the first time.

Speaker 2 It hasn't happened yet, but apparently your fans are very excited.

Speaker 1 Oh, no way. Shocking.
Wait, they found a way to bully you? No way. Shocking.

Speaker 1 By us via us.

Speaker 4 Stu Foner may have dropped something off earlier today.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I don't know if you'll.

Speaker 4 If this is your first experience with

Speaker 4 weed, then yeah. No, don't give up.

Speaker 1 You'll die.

Speaker 1 You'll call the cops in our store.

Speaker 2 I've taken a few of those when he was. I mean, when I watch those Islanders things, he's just eating every single second of the whole time.

Speaker 1 No one eats like Stu. No.
No one eats like Stu. He just goes crazy.

Speaker 2 Is Frank in the office today, by the way?

Speaker 1 I think so.

Speaker 2 I have to at least shake his hand.

Speaker 1 We should get him. Go, Billy, go grab him.

Speaker 4 He'll probably come in and be like, I ought to be riding a high.

Speaker 2 The Devil's One. Yeah.
A Knicks fan. I mean, life is good for Frank.

Speaker 1 He bodied me yesterday, so we're in a little. Oh, body.
I tried to get him to come to the stream, and he just was like, he had, I went up to him and he was just eating all his McDonald's for lunch.

Speaker 1 And I was just like, Frank, I think you should come to the stream. And he just like ate a fry.
He's like, I'm going to the game. I was like, all right, well, that negotiation is over.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Should we talk about the elephant in the room?

Speaker 2 What is it?

Speaker 1 Hank?

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, we should.

Speaker 1 So, last time you were on, you told Hank, just guess 99. Guess

Speaker 1 I

Speaker 1 were a JJ Watt hater. It's worse than that.
Yeah, you're a JJ Watt hater. Yeah, you offered it up.

Speaker 1 Since then, so it was the Super Bowl, 99 has hit twice, and Hank still doesn't have the number.

Speaker 2 So that's two months. It's twice in two months.

Speaker 1 Twice in two months. And Hank is the

Speaker 1 pretty much he's the only one who's still in the JJ Watt hate camp. That's not true.

Speaker 1 And he, he's still, like, come on.

Speaker 1 I make a lot of mistakes. I'm a stupid person.
No, Hank. I don't, you know, I say things.
I say things, and in the moment, I was like, this is the right thing to do. This is what I should do.

Speaker 1 And then I get distracted. It doesn't happen.
I just forget about it and I moved on. And then it, you know, blew up in my face.
Here he is. Here's Frank, Frank, Hank.
Get the mic up. Frank.

Speaker 1 Frank, JJ Watt, finally.

Speaker 3 How's it going?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Nice to meet you. How's it going? How are you?

Speaker 1 All right, so Frank, what do you, I think JJ's a bigger fan of you than

Speaker 1 you are of him.

Speaker 1 You finally meet him.

Speaker 1 What do you got to say to him?

Speaker 7 Great NFL career. Thank you, Frank.
Gonna be in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 7 I just would have liked to see you in a dolphin uniform. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Anything about maybe not staying on the field?

Speaker 2 Miami's not a bad place to be. Yeah.
How do you feel about the Dolphins this year?

Speaker 7 I I just hope that they could keep two upright.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Because they got so much speed. It's just the offensive line scares the hell out of me.

Speaker 2 Are you like, I mean, you got to be riding high right now with the Devils.

Speaker 7 I'm so glad they won that game.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 What is the number one food at the Prudential Center?

Speaker 7 It's probably the chicken tenders because everything there is bad.

Speaker 1 It's bad.

Speaker 4 Frank, weren't you saying last year that JJ was he was looking washed up?

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's why you hang it up, right, Frank? I mean, that's why you hang

Speaker 2 stopped playing.

Speaker 4 Didn't say like he looks a little like he's lost a step.

Speaker 1 You were saying that

Speaker 1 the Cardinals are so irrelevant last year.

Speaker 7 I didn't even think twice about them.

Speaker 1 Did you ever make a JJ Watts song?

Speaker 7 Did you ever have one? No, I never had a JJ Watts song.

Speaker 2 That's probably for the best.

Speaker 1 But you always were a JJ Watt fan.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I respect him.

Speaker 7 He played for the Texans and the Cardinals.

Speaker 1 I mean, two teams.

Speaker 2 What have you guys won since 1979 or whatever it was?

Speaker 7 Yeah, but

Speaker 7 they're not teams I really

Speaker 7 think twice of it.

Speaker 1 It's just like that they're you're not on Frank's radar. I mean, I mean the Dolphins.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 it's fine if you were winning seven Super Bowls.

Speaker 7 The Dolphins have been bad for the last 20 years, too. I admit that.

Speaker 1 All right, all right. So

Speaker 7 there's no, so it wasn't like, ah, boo, Texans, boo, Texans, or, or yay, Texans.

Speaker 4 That's fair. Frank's got a lot of enemies that come before the Houston Texans in his list, like Kevin Harlan or Buster Olney or Scott Van Pelt or Scott Van Pelt.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Frank, I love your content. I am very thankful for all of your cooking videos, for all of your devil's videos.

Speaker 7 I filmed two cooking videos over the weekend. They'll be released in the next couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 I did one now.

Speaker 2 Can we get a sneak peek?

Speaker 7 What do we got? Empanadas.

Speaker 1 Oh, deep fryer? No, no, I didn't do you five.

Speaker 7 I cooked them in the oven.

Speaker 4 You made them yourself? You like folded the dough over him and everything?

Speaker 1 Frank, can't wait. If you had had JJ's career, do you think maybe you would have played through some of those injuries?

Speaker 7 I mean, those are tough injuries. I mean, wouldn't he tear a bicep? Yeah,

Speaker 1 you're trying. You're trying.
He's not biting you. He respects you.
Thank you, Frank. He respects the hell out of you.
I appreciate that. Usually

Speaker 1 he'll unload on someone.

Speaker 4 Frank, what do you think about Kyler Murray?

Speaker 7 I think he should have chosen baseball.

Speaker 2 Oh.

Speaker 1 I mean, with the contracts in baseball, I wouldn't blame him. All right.
Well, Frank, thank you. I mean, JJ is a huge fan of you.
Frank, I appreciate you. You are a legend.

Speaker 2 Keep it up. You're a legend.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 All right. Thanks.
All right.

Speaker 1 Thanks, Frank. Thank you, Frank.
Appreciate it. Maybe we get JJ on a raw dog and maybe raw dog with JJ.
I love a good dog. Yeah.
I love a good dog. You raw dog JJ sometimes.
All right. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. We should do that.
Put that on a t-shirt.

Speaker 1 He's got something else. Nope.
Oh, okay. All right.

Speaker 2 Do you have your salt packet on you right now?

Speaker 1 Of course. Yeah, there it is.
I love it.

Speaker 2 Yes. Best food at the Mets game.
Is it really the prime rib sandwich?

Speaker 7 The steak sandwich the

Speaker 1 Patla Fritas. Yeah.
Pat Lafrita. Yeah, it is.
It is so good.

Speaker 7 It might be the best thing that could be ever served at any stadium ever. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Wow. Wow.
That's bold for Miami Marlins. Well, they have part of my cheesesteak.
Yep. Good call.
Yep. Of course.

Speaker 1 That's what you meant to say, Frank. You meant to say that.
Yeah, I know. Frank meant to say that.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, thanks, Frank.
Appreciate it. Thank you, Frank.
Great meeting of the minds. Frank the tank.
He's a watcher. He made my day.
Yeah. I mean, I'm happy he didn't.

Speaker 1 Because he usually will be like.

Speaker 2 I mean, you guys were trying.

Speaker 1 We were.

Speaker 4 He has exploded. Like, Blake Griffin came in.
He was like, you kind of stink now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. And he'll like say, like, someone will get injured and be like, this guy is like, how can he not play through this? And it's like, Frank, I'm on it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So he, yeah, he, I, we put him through. That was like a John Taffer stress test.
It was Frank. And he passed.
Because usually you just get him going and he'll just be like, yeah, that one time.

Speaker 1 You had that leg injury. He probably should have played.

Speaker 4 What's your favorite Frank the Tank clip of all time?

Speaker 1 I know you're fine.

Speaker 2 It was one I didn't know about until you guys showed it to me. It's the ribs.

Speaker 1 It's the ribs. The ribs.
The ribs are so great.

Speaker 2 The, oh, what was he doing the other day?

Speaker 1 Oh, fuck.

Speaker 2 It was one of he was, he was just in his kitchen. I like the burger one from the other day.
The burger one was good.

Speaker 1 Uh, ding fries are done. Oh, yeah, ding, ding, fries, or dun, ding, fries, or dun.

Speaker 2 If I thought he was going to have a deep fryer involved, that was going to get pretty interesting.

Speaker 4 I can't wait to see him trying to do the whole dough thing because if you saw his pizza where he tried to make his own pizza, that was he had a hard time with the dough.

Speaker 2 The uh, no, the ribs one is just what the fuck

Speaker 1 up,

Speaker 1 what the fuck?

Speaker 1 It got too hot outside. Oh, I all right.
So before we go back to Hank.

Speaker 1 We're good. We covered that.
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 4 Frank came in right in the middle.

Speaker 1 We didn't, I mean, Hank, you.

Speaker 4 I don't want to be rude and interrupt you, Hank, because I know that you had a lot to say about it.

Speaker 1 Are you going to guess 99 now?

Speaker 2 What is your strategy when you guess? Yes. What is the strategy?

Speaker 4 That's the problem. So that's what I was saying.

Speaker 1 I originally, like, I have ADHD. I go back and forth.
I was like, I'm going to do 99.

Speaker 4 Stick with 99.

Speaker 1 And then I just get so, I did it for like at least two days.

Speaker 1 And then I just get so worried that 17 is going to hit without me picking it.

Speaker 2 So why don't you just stay with 17?

Speaker 1 I do, but then sometimes people will give me a hot tip with like some solid logic. Somebody's saying 99.
Someone some solid logic. And I'm like, fuck, that makes sense.
I'm going to pick that number.

Speaker 1 But now I'm pretty committed to 17.

Speaker 4 Unless somebody beats you with 17.

Speaker 2 Well, what about I'm with 17 now? Yeah. I'm on 17.

Speaker 1 All right, so should we do it? Let's just do, let's do, this one will count. This will be official.
Okay. So if JJ gets to pick two, are you not going to do 99 in front of him?

Speaker 2 He's got to be 17. Now.

Speaker 1 99 in front of GJ.

Speaker 2 What? I'll take 99.

Speaker 1 Well, I win it. I don't know.
It's a false start. It's false.
That's a false start, JJ. It's a false start.
Yeah. All right.
Hank, have you ever gotten this?

Speaker 2 Every game pass rusher must get five a year. This would be great.

Speaker 1 You're not trying if you don't get it. Really?

Speaker 4 Is that something you would say?

Speaker 1 When I get like 17's in a terrible, terrible position, but I'm still going to pick it. Okay.
But like, I didn't know. Maybe in the past.

Speaker 1 There isn't. There really isn't J.
Oh, there is very easy. Big cat has the prime seat.
He's still only got it twice.

Speaker 1 Hey, can you fix that thing behind you? The

Speaker 1 numbers, 17.

Speaker 1 18.

Speaker 1 I'll take 99. That's illegal.
That's not illegal.

Speaker 1 Six.

Speaker 1 It's like the hidden ball trick. Yeah.
No, but it's the hidden ball trick, but you're also. Do you want 17? Or I should be able to the one that says numbers.
Do you want 17? No, you can't do this.

Speaker 1 I'll take six. You take 17.

Speaker 1 Go ahead. I'll take 17.
No, no, no. Take 17.
Take 17. Take 17.
No. It's going to hit.
Take 17.

Speaker 4 Piquette. Are you officially off 17?

Speaker 1 No, I'm going to only trade it to Hank. No,

Speaker 1 I shouldn't have to JJ. You can have 17.
No, you want 17? No, that's Hank's number.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm on Team Hank. I'm fine right now.

Speaker 2 This has come full circle. I'm on Team Hank.

Speaker 1 He's not on Team JJ. Yes, I am.

Speaker 1 He says about you.

Speaker 1 You know what? You know what? No, you know what? I don't have a soccer team that I've ever supported because I don't really like soccer. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, big.
Burnley. Burnley.
Wow. That's it.

Speaker 1 That's you. That's

Speaker 9 I have officially declared a soccer soccer. You're going to hit the number now.

Speaker 1 I will give you 17.

Speaker 4 I don't want it. Fuck you.
50.

Speaker 1 Would you like 17? I'll take 17. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So I have 99. Yeah, you can take 99.
JJ, I'll give you 99. Nope.
No, you can have 99. Nope.

Speaker 2 Burnley was founded in 1982.

Speaker 1 82 is your number?

Speaker 4 Do you want 17 for me?

Speaker 1 Can I have it and as well as six? No, no, no. No, no, it's just one.
Okay. Billy's got 69.
So what do I have now? I have 99. You have 99.
Do you want trade back?

Speaker 4 I'll give you 17 back for 99.

Speaker 1 Let's just pick two new numbers.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I'll go.

Speaker 4 I'll go 76.

Speaker 2 I'll go 55.

Speaker 1 Wow, you're really Jake? 18.

Speaker 1 Max?

Speaker 1 20. What was yours, JJ? 82? 82.

Speaker 1 I went 55.

Speaker 2 76.

Speaker 2 Oh, shit.

Speaker 2 99's buried.

Speaker 1 Nine.

Speaker 1 Oh, so close.

Speaker 1 How do you know? How do you know? Because it's got the line underneath it. No, the line's at the top.

Speaker 1 That would have been the greatest move. Oh, it would have been incredible.

Speaker 1 Fourth time. Oh, Hank.
Hank, look at this sign. It looks like six.
It's a good sign.

Speaker 2 We're getting closer.

Speaker 1 Six has never hit. Six and 26.

Speaker 1 Upside. Wow.
Oh, yeah. Six and 26 never hit.

Speaker 4 Damn. So that's how bad Hank is.
He picked a number that's literally never hit.

Speaker 1 Good strategy. Odds, yes.
I mean, brulet. Yeah.
He's never going to take it, though.

Speaker 1 I'm on the soccer team now. I'm excited.
Yeah. There you go.

Speaker 1 Wait, so are we in the we're not in the Premier League? You will be.

Speaker 2 On Monday, we hoist the championship trophy, and then we start next season in the Premier League.

Speaker 1 Are you gonna be Arsenal in the Premier League? Yeah, yeah, Buddhists. Yeah, no, they're second.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 what was all that drama?

Speaker 1 They were first place all season long, and then they've choked. Oh, that was what I wanted to ask.

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Speaker 1 So I actually am curious what you thought about Giannis's comments about failure. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What did you think?

Speaker 1 And you are a Bucks fan. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I like Giannis. I love Giannis.
I love his attitude. I love his mindset.
I agree with his thoughts.

Speaker 2 I know earlier in my career, I would have been like, no, like I would have said, no, that's, you got to have the mama mentality. You got to have that Jordan, like, killer mentality.

Speaker 2 The older I get and the further along I get and the more perspective that I get in life, I absolutely agree with Giannis' comments.

Speaker 2 I completely see people on the other side and I understand why somebody would say that's not the winning mentality.

Speaker 2 But in terms of as an athlete, how you have to mentally live your life to not put yourself into a really, really shitty way, which I can say I've been in before, I love his perspective and I love the way that he went about it.

Speaker 1 Damn, okay. Well, now you changed my, well, no, you didn't change my mind.
It was a failure. Did you fail at the letter ball?

Speaker 2 Uh, no, because did you fail every single day?

Speaker 1 Yes, when you don't hit it, yes, yeah, but that's 100%.

Speaker 4 But that's why I've won four times. You've won zero times.

Speaker 2 What was that was my first ever attempt.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true. What was not to get into like dark stuff, but what was the hardest part of it?

Speaker 1 Like, what was the hardest stretch of your career where you're like, maybe this isn't going to go my way? Maybe this isn't, you know, for me.

Speaker 2 Well, 2012, 2014, 2015, I got the three defensive player of of the years. And then 2016, I was injured.
2017, I was injured. 2018, I came back, thankfully, and I actually had a good year.

Speaker 2 It was all pro that year. But then 2019, I got injured.
And it was just

Speaker 2 the amount of mental stress and

Speaker 2 toughness that you put on yourself, knowing that you don't want to let your teammates down, knowing that you don't want to let the fans down, knowing that you're getting paid millions of dollars to play this game and you're sitting in a training room, not on the field, Like that weighs so heavily on your mind because all you want to do is get back out there for everybody involved.

Speaker 2 And you feel like you're letting everybody down. And to me, I wasn't able to handle that properly.
And that's why the stress just piled up and piled up.

Speaker 2 As I got older and I learned and got more perspective on life and what's like truly important, I was able to cope with it better. But that's probably the thing I wish I was better at.

Speaker 2 And my wife has helped me a ton with because she's been through a couple of major injuries herself. So us going through that together helped a lot.

Speaker 2 But I really put myself through the ringer every time I got injured. Like, man,

Speaker 2 fans are looking at you and your teammates are looking at you and everybody wants you to be out there and you're not. That shit is very tough.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think we do definitely, as sports fans, like don't.

Speaker 1 We don't give enough credit and also are probably too hard on athletes when they get injured because it's not their fault that they're injured. And, you know, we just want to see them out there.

Speaker 2 Is there, there can't be a worse feeling I think everyone who's played sports or any type of injury that second after the injury when you're like oh fuck it's like I'm injured dude when I broke my leg it's like I knew something was wrong I heard the shit I heard it all go down and I tried to stand up and take two steps and I literally like it had pulverized my knee and it broke every it shattered my bone and so I tried to take two steps on it and I knew it was gone and that's why I was just bawling crying on TV.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Because I knew in that moment, it was the third game of the season and I knew I was out again for the second year in a row.

Speaker 2 And I knew that I had to walk off this field and go, I had at least nine months, probably a year ahead of me. And all you think is I just let everybody down again.

Speaker 2 And that's, that's the worst feeling ever. And nobody understands it.
And I agree with you. Like we've normalized injuries

Speaker 2 so much to the point where it's like, oh, he tore his ACL. He'll be back.
But you don't think about the nine months that he's going through to have to get back in the mental and emotional stress.

Speaker 2 I think about this a lot with Chase Young. You know, he's gone through a tough time.
And every week last year, people are like, why isn't he back this week? Why isn't he back this week?

Speaker 2 But nobody's really thinking like maybe he's going to put himself at danger of missing another nine months to a year if he does get back out there. And he's thinking the same thing.

Speaker 2 He's like, yeah, these people drafted me high. I'm supposed to be this great player.
I've had such a good career. I want to be out there.
Like there's no, he wants to be out there too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's, they actually should ban the term minor surgery because there is no minor surgery. Like if you're going into someone's body, that's surgery.
Clean it up. Because that will always happen.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Where they'll be like, oh, he's got minor knee surgery.
He'll be back in four weeks. And you're sitting there like, why isn't he back right now? It's minor surgery.
Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But I understand it from the other side. I mean, you sit there as a fan, you're like, this guy's getting paid millions of dollars.
I don't care if he's hurt, not hurt. He needs to be out there.
Like,

Speaker 2 it's, I see the juxtaposition and it's very difficult to do. And, and I see why if a guy gets hurt multiple times, you start to be like, all right, get him out of here.
I don't want him.

Speaker 2 But at the end of the day, the true, if you truly break it all down, that is still a human being that has to live with whatever's going on every single day for the rest of their lives.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's like Lamar at the end of this year when he was hurt going into the playoffs.

Speaker 4 He had a torn PCL, and people were like, I think Schefter was tweeting out, like, well, usually you would expect a player to be back by it's been four weeks since he toured his PCL.

Speaker 4 And it's like, well, wait a second. Not only does Lamar have a PCL injury, which is a very serious knee injury, but also he's standing on the doorstep of getting paid a shitload of guaranteed money.

Speaker 4 And if he does something, if something catastrophic happens to him when he's playing injured, he's changing his entire family's future from that point on.

Speaker 4 It's like, have a little bit of humanity and understand, like, yeah, you want, you want to be able to be like, yeah, go fucking Ravens. Let's go.

Speaker 4 You know, like, you want to be able to cheer for him as a guy, but also, like, if you were in his shoes, I guarantee you would do the exact same thing that he's doing.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean, there's, there's no doubt about that, that if you, if you put yourself in somebody else's shoes and actually think about what it means to your family and your life, like it changes everything.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Fans are assholes.

Speaker 4 We're assholes.

Speaker 4 When you're carted off the field, did you have the presence of mind to be like, got to give that thumbs up?

Speaker 2 I walked walked off, so I was proud of that.

Speaker 1 So I had, I had you probably injured yourself more.

Speaker 1 Absolutely.

Speaker 2 So I had the people around both arms and I walked off just sobbing, crying. But no, I didn't, I didn't give a thumbs up there.

Speaker 2 I just went, but that was, they followed the ambulance to the hospital with a helicopter. And that was like, it was fucking raw.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was crazy.

Speaker 2 But they knew in the x-ray room, like, I got off the field. They do an x-ray right there in the stadium.

Speaker 2 And the doctor told my wife, as soon as he got the x-ray back, he's like, I'm not sure he's going to play again. Jesus.
And then thankfully, like it all.

Speaker 1 That should be illegal.

Speaker 1 The doctor should always just give the

Speaker 1 best case scenario. Because

Speaker 2 she told me, obviously, and I heard that and I was like, that's what really starts to fuck with you. Because you start to think about things and worry about things that...

Speaker 2 might not even happen and obviously didn't happen.

Speaker 4 Doctor's like, you know, if he was a racehorse, they would have just killed him.

Speaker 1 But they really should just, doctors should always just give like the 1%. Like, he actually might be okay.
It might have just been a sprain.

Speaker 2 He started to do that later because he's been my doctor my whole i love the guy to death but then i started to come back from injuries and which sadly you nobody should ever be in this spot but with my pec when i came back from eight weeks in the pec after that he started to be like okay we're gonna give you the optimistic scenarios because you're you're actually doing it right and the pec stuff is always that's another injury where it's like why do you even need a pec like get back out there but there's some guys that do it without it it's crazy like dbs and stuff like there's some dbs that'll tear their pec and go out there and play the rest of the season because i don't know it's fucking wild dude that's

Speaker 1 it seems like the most painful injury.

Speaker 4 Or just like, I think it's just, it immobilizes your arm because you use your pec to do everything.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right.

Speaker 2 My pec injury, I did not know what happened. So I tore my pec on one play.
Josh Jacobs' knee hit me right in the bicep, threw my pec back, peck torn. I didn't know.

Speaker 2 Zero pain, literally clean off the bone, zero pain. I went to line up for the next play and put my hand in the ground and I couldn't lift it to put it in the ground.

Speaker 2 So I stood up and in two points stands for the next play. I went to run and my arm wouldn't move.
And then I came off to the side. I looked at the doctor and he goes, Yeah, your pec's literally gone.

Speaker 1 Oh, fucking wild.

Speaker 2 But you played on it just for one play.

Speaker 1 But still counts. Yeah, still counts.

Speaker 1 I would be sitting on the field being like, just shoot me, just end it.

Speaker 4 I just like to see a hockey player do that.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
Well, JJ Watt, thank you as always, man. We love having you on the show.
Hank is a Burnley fan now.

Speaker 1 I think I might be, I might have like a little, Burnley might be like my guma. I'll get some gear in here.
You decide.

Speaker 4 That's really what it comes to. It's like, if we get sent free shit, then we will cheer for you.

Speaker 1 That's a thousand percent.

Speaker 1 I'm excited. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. We'll get you some gear.

Speaker 1 Do you want a loser like Hank on your he can't get the

Speaker 2 so Hank? We're turning Hank's story around. Burnley's going up to the Premier League.
We're now, Burnley's on its way up. Hank's on its way up.

Speaker 2 Everything's looking up.

Speaker 4 Okay. Hank can't get any more down.
Yeah. Hank's basically in the championship division of life right now.

Speaker 1 I've been relegated. You want to do one more? It's okay.
You want to do one more? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Let's do one more to count. And this will be the end.

Speaker 6 This might be the first time since opening day we've had three official drawings.

Speaker 1 Uh,

Speaker 1 number 17, yeah,

Speaker 1 I'll take 99. Six, okay.
You want to trade? Sure, okay. I'll take 99, you take 17.
This time,

Speaker 1 26, 82, 82 for JJ,

Speaker 1 18 for Jake, 20 for Max, 69 for Billy. What do you have, Hank? Six

Speaker 1 man, what if 17 hits? I have 17. I have 99.
I have 99.

Speaker 1 One.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 You're hovering. You're heat seeking it.
Single digits. Yeah.
You're around it. Back-to-back single digits.
You're right there. This is the close you've ever been, which is good vibes.

Speaker 2 Still pathetic. Good vibes.
No, we're on the uptrend.

Speaker 4 That would have been so cool, though, if his first win was on one.

Speaker 4 Imagine how cool that would have been.

Speaker 1 I should have picked one.

Speaker 4 We're about to lift in the studio. We got a barbell.

Speaker 1 Like, if you want to.

Speaker 4 What are you going going to do? I was going to do uppers.

Speaker 2 Like, oh, you legitimately lift in here.

Speaker 1 It's not like,

Speaker 1 no, yeah, no.

Speaker 2 Give me your workout. What are you going to do?

Speaker 1 I was going to do like bench, then pull-ups, then, like, maybe biceps. You got to slow it a little bit more.
Yeah, no.

Speaker 2 I mean, I was waiting like three by five.

Speaker 1 You should have said just.

Speaker 4 You should have said quad squad. How many weights do you got in here?

Speaker 1 We got it up to 295. Yeah, not enough.

Speaker 1 Not enough. Not enough.

Speaker 1 Barbell, though.

Speaker 2 What's your 225 reps at?

Speaker 1 Probably around 10.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 2 What about you? PFT. I think you could beat him.

Speaker 1 I'm about three, I think. I haven't really lifted that much recently.

Speaker 2 225, if I was to do it right now. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I could probably right now today get like 27.

Speaker 4 All right, get out of here.

Speaker 1 Get out of here. Are you with a torn pack? You are a tryhard.

Speaker 3 I know, but did you bench ever after tearing your pack?

Speaker 2 I bench all the time.

Speaker 1 Dude, I bench all the time. Do you lift, bro? It's a man.

Speaker 3 A lot of guys tear their pack and they're like, no more bench.

Speaker 1 Not JJ. Yeah, no.

Speaker 2 Different.

Speaker 1 Not I. All right.
Thank you, JJ.

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Speaker 1 Okay, let's wrap up the show.

Speaker 1 Hank getting the lottery ball on Friday,

Speaker 1 it actually devastated me. I'm not going to lie.
On Thursday, when we taped it,

Speaker 1 I don't think I've been in a bigger funk in a long, long time.

Speaker 4 Same.

Speaker 1 It ruined me.

Speaker 6 Keep in mind, we did two drawings during the JJ Watt interview, and a lot of that interview was talking about Hank not getting it.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's a good point. Oh, this is our third drawing for this show, technically.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Damn.
Was Hank even there? I was. I'm afraid nine and number one.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 The two drawings.

Speaker 4 Hank, you ruined this interview.

Speaker 1 There you go, Hank. Yeah, you ruined the interview.
So

Speaker 1 I love the lottery ball. I do think it's a very fun thing that people can play along with at home at the end of shows.
So here's the plan. This lottery ball machine is not going to make it to Chicago.

Speaker 1 What we're going to do, we're going to keep going until we leave, and then we're going to sell it. And it probably will go for a good amount of money.
So

Speaker 1 whoever wants it, they get it exactly as is. They get this lottery ball machine.

Speaker 1 And what I want to do is for any AWLs who do 3D printing or work in some type of factory I don't know about, I want to build the biggest fucking lottery ball machine ever.

Speaker 1 And maybe not the biggest ever, but massive lottery ball machine that we can then open the new Chicago office with. And then it's all bets are off.
Everyone's back to square one.

Speaker 1 And everyone's got zero. And we just see.

Speaker 3 We still do one through 100.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and we just see who... who ends up being the guy who can't get it for an extended period of time.
So it'll be a totally, we will retire this machine and all its records.

Speaker 1 So everyone everyone goes back to zero and we go from there.

Speaker 4 This, the last couple of years have just been the preseason for the lottery ball.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 So it really wasn't even that big of a deal that Hank didn't get the lottery ball ever for a really long time.

Speaker 1 And maybe we'll figure out like real stakes or something that we can have attached to it where like whenever you get it, you get something to kind of make it even bigger.

Speaker 1 Because I do think it's a very fun part of the show that people love. So we should.
I agree. And we just need to we need to pivot a new history.
Yeah, and shout out to everyone that reached out.

Speaker 1 It was

Speaker 1 overwhelming. A lot of people congratulated me.
It was great. Oh, man.
Just knowing. You congratulated Hank.
You're a fucking loser. The guy has it.
I'm a loser. I'm a loser.
Yeah, we know that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I also clicked the lottery ball right after Hank got it. Oh, yeah.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. I forgot about this.
We were sitting in the room after, and

Speaker 1 it was me, PFT, and Max. And Max, and he doesn't do this.
No one one does this. No one just walks over there and clicks the button.
Max. Oh, he just, my headphones went out.

Speaker 1 Yes, he just slammed on the table. No joke.
Wait. Vindication.

Speaker 1 Stop fucking hitting the table.

Speaker 1 I really can't.

Speaker 1 He shouldn't sit here. I shouldn't sit here.
He hit the table. I can't.
I can hear myself. I'm Italian.
I speak with my hands. There we go.

Speaker 1 Stop.

Speaker 1 I just hit it back.

Speaker 1 Stop. Don't hit the table.

Speaker 4 Jake, that's Jake and I like the whole show with our feet.

Speaker 1 We like kick it in and out. Also, just want to apologize to everyone who had to deal.

Speaker 1 I understand a lot of people were telling me they shut off the show early because of what Hank was doing to the table on Friday.

Speaker 1 Apologies to them. Yeah, I got to stop sitting here.
I can't help myself. I'm an Italian.
I speak with my

Speaker 1 hitting the table.

Speaker 1 But yeah,

Speaker 1 sorry to everyone who had to deal with Hank hitting the table over and over. It was very rude of him.
Yeah, me too. My bad.
I got you next time.

Speaker 1 Max just walked over for no reason at all, clicked the lottery ball machine, and 20 came up, which is a number he picks every single time.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And that's when I knew the Celtics were winning in seven.
Oh, you are such a loser.

Speaker 1 Hold on a second.

Speaker 1 I do want to know. I do want to know.
I wanted to text the group text and I refrained because I didn't want it to bite my face.

Speaker 1 But I wanted to text yesterday and this morning so much to ask Max how much he thought about me winning the lottery ball and how that was going to affect the game today.

Speaker 1 Did you at at all? And it technically affected both game six and seven because he got it on Thursday. Game six, I thought I was thinking about it all day.

Speaker 1 I honestly didn't really think about it at all this weekend for game seven, but I did think about it a bunch for game six.

Speaker 1 Whatever. Because the thing is, if they had lost

Speaker 1 game six or game seven, it probably would have negated the win. There were some people who said I was being mean to Hank on Friday.
I will fully admit I was, and it was because of the lottery ball.

Speaker 1 Like, I was that devastated. I hated him so much that it, it actually made me angry at him.
Like, I was very angry at him right after he got it for the rest of, like, the next 24 hours.

Speaker 1 I muted him on Twitter. I muted him on Twitter.
I had to. I don't even tweet.
You were tweeting about the lottery ball. It's like, I don't, I can't have this in my head right now.
I muted him.

Speaker 1 I unmuted you today, but I had to un Actually, I unmuted you and the first fucking tweet I saw was you just tweeting out a picture of the Celtics court with the number six. And I was like, fuck that

Speaker 4 it's disgusting like why it's honestly embarrassing that you're celebrating this much it really is we've all gotten it so many times and you you get it one time and you act like you're you know God's gift to lottery balls yeah I just felt you know it's been a I've lost a lot in the show experienced a lot of L's shut up

Speaker 1 to catch a Williams

Speaker 1 whoever can build us a new lottery ball machine

Speaker 1 Email Jake. We'll go through them.
What's your email?

Speaker 6 PMT intern at barstowsports.com.

Speaker 1 Okay, so and then we'll talk about.

Speaker 1 I have a vision for it, so I'll explain my vision for whoever can actually actually send us like how like how you could accomplish this, not just hey, I want to build it.

Speaker 1 I want I want it to be basically the lottery, like every time, like a big fucking stick that we can like pick up the balls and shit. How sick would that be? Uh, okay,

Speaker 1 so

Speaker 1 numbers, I guess, memes, memes, have you ever gotten this?

Speaker 1 No, oh,

Speaker 1 that means you sucking the light.

Speaker 1 Ah, memes. 17.

Speaker 1 18. 16.

Speaker 1 I'll go 68.

Speaker 4 55.

Speaker 1 20. 1.

Speaker 1 I'm rooting for you, Max. I don't even want it.
You don't want it?

Speaker 1 If Max gets it, he can shave his soul patch.

Speaker 1 Now I want it. Yeah, it might make it worse.
44. Ah, damn.

Speaker 4 44 is 44.

Speaker 1 Memes you're never going to get it. You're never gonna get it, memes.

Speaker 4 Love you guys. Fuck.

Speaker 4 Castlewareries are terrible mothers and hoes.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 They're big birds.

Speaker 1 Hoes?

Speaker 4 Castleware's. What do you mean, hose?

Speaker 4 They're quite promiscuous.

Speaker 1 Oh, they are hoes.

Speaker 4 They're not terrible hoes.

Speaker 1 Talk it away.

Speaker 1 I don't know what I'm to say. I'll say it anyway.

Speaker 1 Today is another day to find you shying away.

Speaker 1 I'll be coming for your love, okay. And

Speaker 1 take

Speaker 1 on

Speaker 1 me,

Speaker 1 take

Speaker 1 me.

Speaker 1 on,

Speaker 1 I'll

Speaker 1 be

Speaker 1 gone

Speaker 1 in a day or two.

Speaker 1 So, needless to say

Speaker 1 I'm odds and ends,

Speaker 1 but that's me. I'm stumbling away,

Speaker 1 Slowly learning that life is okay. And

Speaker 1 say after me,

Speaker 1 it's no better to be safe than sorry. And

Speaker 1 take

Speaker 1 on

Speaker 1 me.

Speaker 1 Take

Speaker 1 me

Speaker 1 all.

Speaker 1 I'll

Speaker 1 be

Speaker 1 God

Speaker 1 in a tale to

Speaker 1 And all things that you say

Speaker 1 is it live or

Speaker 1 just to play my worries away.

Speaker 1 You're all the things I've got to remember. You're shying away.

Speaker 1 I'll be coming for you anyway.

Speaker 1 Take

Speaker 1 on

Speaker 1 me

Speaker 1 take

Speaker 1 me

Speaker 1 on

Speaker 1 I'll be

Speaker 1 God

Speaker 1 in a day of

Speaker 1 two

Speaker 1 I'll be

Speaker 1 God

Speaker 1 in a day or

Speaker 1 two

Speaker 1 in a day or

Speaker 1 two

Speaker 1 Thank you so much, thank you guys

Speaker 1 for watching

Speaker 1 Wonderful.