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Oh, we're going to rock down to electric My Take, presented by Varsity Sports Welcome to Pardon My Take Today is Monday, May 15th And the Boston Celtics have eliminated the Philadelphia 76ers in a true whomping Hank is smiling ear to ear Max is about to come in with his face reveal but pft i'll start with you obviously holy shit they kicked the shit out of him and jason tatum was absolutely sensational yeah jason tatum rocked tonight uh the last five quarters that jason tatum has played has been you know what how much credit do we get for spurning Jason Tatum? I think the real winner in this series should be us for saying that Jason Tatum is the best player on the court and he needs to get a dog. We were dog, we're used dog salesmen, adoption counselors, and we set up a tent outside Jason Tatum's house and he adopted a dog from us.
He's got a dog now Now he's officially, I, Jake, you're, you're kind of like the barometer on this is Jason Tatum. Him.
I guess the Eastern conference finals is the battle for him. Yeah.
I think he, yeah. Who's more him.
I do. He is an AWL, I assume.
And our take was very consistent in that. I think Jason Tatum is a phenomenal, phenomenal basketball player, top five player.
There are times when he floats and isn't aggressive. And it drives me insane.
Cause is you, this is the type of guy that should go and take a series. And that's exactly what he did.
He, in the last game, six, fourth quarter into game game seven he told everyone on that court i am the best player here there is nothing you can do to take this series away from me the mvp is on the other side of the court it doesn't matter this is my moment and he did it and he completely captured it he was like so so good he was doing everything i think he what 51 13 and 5 um it was it was a hell of a performance most points in a game 7 uh which is crazy i there was actually a part of me that was worried that he was credit to the sixers for sucking so bad that he couldn't go for mj's 63 uh the playoffs because he could, if the Sixers had like been, even put up a little bit of a fight and he had stayed in the rest of the game, he was that unconscious for the entire game. And he proved that he deserves this stage.
And it's also nice knowing that after you say humbly, I'm one of the best players in the world, like you know that the spotlight's going to be you after you say that because if you come out and you drop, say, a Joel Embiid or a James Harden, just throwing a couple names out there, people will roast you. He did the opposite and went even further and was unbelievable.
So the opposite of Jason Tatum, what's the opposite of him? Meh, meh, meh. I mean, it's – The meh.
We're not going to talk Sixers until we get max in here but it is those two guys but i was going to say i was going to say doc rivers actually because doc rivers has now he's lost 10 game sevens five more than any other coach it's the most in nba history he's the king he's got 10 game seven losses he's lost the last five game sevens in a row by an average of 14 points so if jason tatum is him doc rivers is he's got that doc in him yeah yeah i i want to i want to talk about doc rivers i want to wait to let's not talk any sixers till max gets in because we need to punish him he needs to forget i said that yeah i'm gonna run those stats back because i'm back in front. I went knuckles deep in stats tonight, so I want to make sure that I confront Big Max with those stats.
Yeah, because I have a Doc Rivers take that I need to get off that I want to wait until Max is here so he can hear it. I also want to say congratulations to Hank.
You deserve it, Hank. You've had some real tough times as a Boston sports fan recently, so I'm happy for you.
thank you i i wish i was there in person to see you gloat i wish you had a soul patch it would be good for the show if you had a soul patch anyways just strictly in terms of downloads i know that you're a team guy you're a business guy if you want us to make more money it would be nice if you had a soul patch but i understand that you're a little bit selfish and might not want to do that but congratulations hank i'm very happy for you yeah so let's let's hear from hank uh you got to feel great you got to feel great about going forward i feel fantastic yeah this team found something in the fourth quarter game six they kept it going into game seven the garden was rocking chilies you know not to make this about me or make this about the show. Obviously, the team is the team.
But Chili's, great sponsor, great friend, great advertiser. They reached out.
They said, we want to celebrate you on winning the lottery ball. So we're going to cater lunch for game seven.
It came at halftime. It came at halftime.
And after halftime, they won on. What was the third quarter? 41 to 10? 33 to 10.
It was 33 to10. I was nervous.
I was feeling anxious. James Harden and Joel Embiid at times in the series played dominant.
They seemed unstoppable in the games that they won. They kind of were showing a little bit signs of life in the first half.
I was getting nervous for the second half and then that third quarter. Put everything to rest.
Made everything easy. It was all fun and games.
Watching max and all the philly fans fight with each other was just funny to watch and beautiful to see and the only thing i got worried about was in the last four minutes when they didn't take the starters out yeah then jalen brown like hurt his he didn't look it looked like pushed over yeah yeah but uh yeah no the the sixers had no answers for the celtics pick and roll it was it was a joke watching the Sixers offense in that second half, similar to the fourth quarter of game six. They were showing Doc, too.
It wasn't that. It was probably early in the third quarter, and they showed some sideline shots of Doc.
He just looked like he wasn't even trying to coach anyone. He was doing anything.
He just looks defeated. And this was when they were only down like 10, 12, 15.
Yeah, and I agree with you. Like the first half, it felt like the Sixers were like, oh, maybe they'll do something here.
And you know what? Let's bring Max in because I want – yeah, let's bring him in. I just want to say, for the record, it was kind of selfish of Hank right there to remind everybody that he got the lottery ball on Friday.
I completely forgot about it because on Friday, Big Cat had a kid. So congrats, Big Cat.
Thank you. That's huge news for the show.
Thank you. That's what everybody should remember from Friday is the birth of Big Cat's third child, father of three.
What an incredible day. Great job, Big Cat.
And great timing, completely overshadowing, whatever it is that Hank accomplished. Probably something totally meaningless earlier that day.
Who cares about the lottery ball when you bring a fucking life into this world? But that was going to be my who's back. So I'll talk about that then.
But I also will say we have something planned for the lottery ball. So listen at the end of the show.
We have we do. We have something planned.
We have we have something planned for the future of the lottery ball because there were a lot of people being like, what do I do now? This was,ank not getting it was the best oh you're scared of me catching up hell no we talked about this don't act all fucking he pft he's being the worst like no i'm actually trying to be like hey you won you deserve it and he's doing that little smile where he's like you know everything goes my way i'm gonna i i tweeted it like max or hank is the only person in the world who like what you know like the old uh when the least get eliminated everyone posts like the golf bag hank is the only person in the world where his team wins and he golfs more he keeps golfing more as the as the team wins he's got his golf bag right there all right max is So, Max, no one else has seen Max except me. He's so angry.
I want to see that face, Max. Let me see that face.
All right. So, put on your headphones.
Put on your headphones. Sit down.
He's got a mask on right now. We have not talked about the Sixers yet, so we are going to unload on you being the biggest loser of all time.
You're a loser. Let it max all right dump him out i just want everyone to know uh at home if you have children watching this max has some type of rash uh that we found out it was like basically uh hank don't post this till tomorrow because we try to get people to watch youtube it was basically uh like digging up old fossils and you don't know what the fuck you're gonna find turns out underneath you know thousands of years of uh sediment there's a really bad rash on his face so yeah i mean not that bad thing about max though is he would beat your ass and also the thing about max is i do think that his facial hair will grow back quickly he seems like a very very hairy man.
I don't know. Yes.
He also, just to set the stage, he wanted to just do the electric razor where he still had stubble. I made him do the full shave because it was like...
Hero big cat. Hero big cat.
You had to. Oh, do you want to say what I also said? I offered for Max.
There was a moment. Oh, this is bullshit.
Meems could attest this. I said to Max, I said, do you want me to take a little heat off you and shave my face too?

And he said, no. There's no way.

That's big of you.

You were not going to do that.

I never had the chance.

You said no.

Why don't you take him up on that?

Because I know how this goes.

You say like yes to him and he goes, I'm not going to do it.

And he does that like little smile.

No, I would have done it.

No, you wouldn't have.

Because it's a win-win.

It's a win-win for you, Ethan.

It's a win-win for you both.

I bet you would have.

Kanye, I guess we'll never know. All right, let's see you, Max.
Go ahead, Max. Oh, my God! Oh, my God! It's Chumley from Pawn Stars.
Hey, you are Chumley! Chumley! Billy, I was wondering what he looked like. Chumlee.
Take off the neck thing because it's hiding some of your fat. Whoa.
Max said he hasn't shaved his face since freshman year. I don't know why this keeps going out over me over here.
Oh, my God. Since freshman year.
Freshman year was the last time he shaved. Max looks like a roadie from Limp Bizkit.
Yeah, he looks He's like a shitty Character in an SNL skit About like Juggalos You're like yeah If Horatio Sands played Fred Durst in a biopic Exactly It's his birthday next week by the way Oh happy Yep, thanks. The rash doesn't look as bad once you put lotion on it.
Yeah, I had to put some lotion on it. All right, so let's get the...
Oh, my God. Let's all move past what his face looks like.
I can't. It's bad.
And let's talk about the game, Max. Do I still have the toilet paper on my face from when I...
I also cut myself. Oh, man.
You look so bad. You look so bad.
Max, have you sent a picture of your face to your mom for Mother's Day? I have. And what'd she say? She said, I'm sure it doesn't look as bad as you feel right now.
It looks worse. Alright, so let's talk about the game, Max.
You're a loser. Like, I'm a loser.
PFT's a loser. PFT also looks pretty bad.
PFT looks pretty bad. I didn't want to mean either.
No, I look bad. I look bad.
And this is not i i think it's a bad angle of your camera too i'll say that yeah no i i do i do look bad i walked in i saw my mom was like hey mom about to record the show so you shut the fuck up and you don't say goddamn word for the next two hours and she was like what is that on your face i didn't tell her that i was doing it so so she could notice but it it's not as bad as Max. I'm flying under the radar compared to what's going on with Philly.
It is. It's blurry.
Yeah, like what we're seeing. People are like a different person.
People watching on YouTube will see it clearer for PFT. We're a little blurry, so it doesn't look that bad right now.
It's bad. Max looks like a sound guy.
Yeah, he does. He looks like someone who doesn't listen to the podcast and just gets assigned to us for like a week.
Yeah, a sound guy. He looks like an extra on Portlandia.
Like, he just... Yeah, you look like a roadie that maybe traveled with Temple of the Dog.
You weren't even like pearl jam or nirvana it's so wide it's like

it's like a new metal rap i thought you were talking about my face also i thought you look you look like a a 7-eleven clerk that that works in like a college town but you're a townie you're like not affiliated with the university you look like you work in a head shop. Yeah, I do.
Hell yeah.

Yeah, man.

That's one of my favorite things.

Deal or no deal.

You're the comic book guy from Simpsons.

Yes!

This is great.

Okay, all right.

Let's talk about the game.

Let's talk about the game.

No, I would rather talk about this than the fucking game.

Forget about Max's face. Max, you're a loser.

Just to go back through the last two weeks, as we know, there's been a lot of show, there's been a lot of history. Yes, I said game three was not a must win.
A couple of things that PFT and I were dead right about. It wasn't.
Wrong. Wrong.
Not dead right about. And two.
And two. And six.
If you lose game three, you lose the series. Exactly how that went.
We predicted it. We told you game three was a must win.
You didn't believe us. You also said Giannis, you're like, well, the Bucs, when they won the title, they lost by 40 in game two.
And then Giannis took them and won that series and won the title. And you're like, why can't Embiid be Giannis? Giannis in the game seven against the Nets went for 40, 13, and five.
Embiid tonight went for 15, eight, and four. Wait.
Sorry. Four was the turnovers.
He had one assist. So four turnovers, one assist.
Yeah. He was bad.
He was so bad. He was bad.
Also, Max, I've got some other stats here uh doc rivers has now lost 10 game sevens that's 10 1-0 game seven double digit game sevens uh it's five more than any other coach he's lost five in a row by an average of 14 points in each game max doc rivers i gotta assume that you want him you want him gone like yesterday obviously monty williams is lingering out there but but first you should have to reckon with the fact that me and big cat were right we were right i wouldn't go as far to say games two three and six yeah should have all been must wins and you did not make the must wins but if you won any of those games you win the series by the way pft so my doc rivers take that i alluded to earlier

so there's a lot of people going around saying doc rivers blown all these leads unfortunately it's muddying the water because people are listing all his blown leads and they'll count like one oh in a series as a blown lead that's stupid no two ones like three one is a blown lead so here's the that that everyone should if you want to talk about Doc Rivers. Doc Rivers is now 17-33 straight up with a chance to clinch a series.
So that means, you know, he was 0-2 in this series when he had a chance to clinch a series. 33 losses is the most of any coach in NBA history with a chance to clinch a series so 34 when his team has a chance to clinch a series that's the stat don't don't yeah don't don't take like a great stat and make it worse by being like look Doc Rivers has blown 12 series lead and then list like a 1-0 or 2-1 that's that makes that lets other people be like no that't count.
And then you get in an argument. Just say 33 losses when he's had a chance to clinch a series.
No, I agree that like a 1-0 lead is not a blown series. But I still think that having 10 game 7 losses, which is the most of it, that's a legit stat.
And he's got, what does he have? Like, I forget how many 3-1 series leads that he's blown. He's blown.
I also consider a 3-2 lead. I consider that a blown lead.
It's not as bad, obviously. Like, that happens from time to time.
But he's got a bunch of those. You can actually look up on, like, whatever the modern equivalent of BuzzFeed sports is, like a top 10 list of Doc Rivers' most epic series collapses, and they're just filled with 3-1, 3-2, come from ahead losses that he's had.
So I do want to hear from Max because Max has been like, I don't know if you know this, Big Cat, because you've been looking at me while you've been saying all these things, and I've been talking to you, but Max has just been facing like the window, like not even looking at anybody in this room, not even acknowledging reality. So Max, will you please just acknowledge reality and let us know what's going through your head right now? I mean, there isn't much more.
This process is dead. It is officially dead.
It's over. Doc Rivers is gone 100%.
James Harden is gone 100%. James Harden, we just forgot to bring up this part because.
Thanks. Yeah, let's talk about that.
I mean't it sucks that pft and i know ball so well um and we're unbiased here we told you james harden as the series goes along doesn't get better he gets worse yep yep yep uh game six he scored 17 points uh game or sorry Game five, he scored 17 game six he scored 13 points pft is 13 more or less than 17 it's less okay okay so so he got worse and then game 70 scored nine points is nine not even double digits nine more or less than 13 this this was the perfect storm this like, what are those two ingredients that you had together to make your stupid little volcano and science fair? It's like baking soda and vinegar. That's Doc Rivers and James Harden combining together for what should have been an obvious Game 7 loss.
James Harden had 45 points, 42 points, and then a total of 67 points over the other five games in the series man he just got worse and worse and worse one only one more attempt than d'anthony melton oh man in a game seven man and and oh that's tough that's really he had he had uh he did have seven assists he also had five turnovers. But, yeah, we were right about that as well.
Max kept on saying, Harden's your fucking prime. He's doing it.
He's doing it. He should have rested him.
He should have rested him. He should have rested him in game seven, honestly.
I would have rested James Harden in game seven. I would have benched him.
I actually think that there might be something to the fact that James Harden doesn't want to win the playoffs because he gets paid regardless, and he just wants to go party in the offseason. I think it might be time to have that discussion.
Like, legitimately, James Harden might not want to win playoff series. I mean, it's overtime.
They're making him work overtime. No one wants to work overtime.
Definitely not James. You'd be at the buffet.
Okay, so, Max. Doc Rivers, James Harden.
Let's talk about that because I do want to have a bigger conversation about your own beat. Oh.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Because he is the MVP and he's a cornerstone of the franchise.
James Harden, Doc Rivers out? I mean, Harden has a player option He could come back Okay But you want him out Oh no No He wants him back No I want him I probably would prefer I don't know It doesn't matter Like what does it matter Whether he comes back Or he leaves the same team Regardless You know what I was thinking Earlier tonight When I was watching this game Like what The Sixers Like if Harden comes, we're still not going to win. If Harden leaves, we're not going to win.
So why do I really care? Yeah. That's true.
Well, you can get somebody that's not James Harden. Yeah, but who? Who are we going to go get? What if it's Michael Jordan? Who are we going to go get? Jimmy Butler? Who are we going to go get? Oh, Jimmy Butler.
Hank, it was interesting because I was about to say when I was watching this game, I was like, the Sixers team could really use Jimmy Butler. Yeah.
Imagine if Jimmy Butler was on the Sixers. We're pulling out all the stops here, fellas.
Well, I mean, we're talking ball. We're doing a great job of just seeing every single thing on Twitter.
It's great. Well, I'm just, you know.
I haven't been on Twitter, Max. This is just like, this is guys talking ball.
Like, this is what we do. i haven't been on social media at all i just had a kid max did you also see that ben simmons is watching the game yes he posted that on his instagram i mean he's the biggest one yeah worst worst tv location ever so at least you won that sick yeah i don't know i don't give a fuck about ben simmons i saw a picture uh i SportsCenter posted a picture.
It was like really high quality images of the Sixers last game seven games. Oh, no.
And it was the Kawhi picture with Embiid looking at the ball, looking like he was going to cry. Oh, no.
Ben Simmons passing under the basket. And then a picture from Harden today.
It was well done. So, Hank, that's a good segue.
Those happened in what? Like the conference finals, NBA finals? No. I think first or second round.
I think second round all of them. Oh, no.
So, Joel Embiid's never been past the second round. Yeah, I know.
Okay. So, we should, and fair is is fair we should talk about this because i know people will say well he's been injured guess what we make fun of chris paul on this podcast who is oftentimes injured we're being fair joe and b the conversation uh needs to be had where he just he sucks in the playoffs and and in the second round like the the exact thing that basically got him the mvp this year when everyone's like yokich can't get get deep in the playoffs that is what joe lmbit is he's never made it past the second round and his numbers get way worse the deeper he gets into the playoffs what happens now after the game james they they interviewed Joel Embiid, and he said, like, me and James can't do it all on our own.
No shit. Yeah, we just saw that try to happen.
Like, I think that was like a little, it was a slap across the face, especially Maxie, who's good. Like, I like Maxie.
Yeah. But for him, for Embiid to be like, yeah, me and James, you know, we try to do it on our own.
We could use some help. Like, I'd be pissed off if I was a player in the Sixers and I heard him say that.
We should say. That was an out of context.
Okay. All right.
But let's give some context. Because I saw it and I was like, there's no way he just said this.
There's got to be more context. He did say, but it's going to take more than us talking about him and James.
We all got to look at ourselves. I got to be better and I will be better.
That's what I'm focused on. All of us.
We got to come back and find ways to just keep improving and help the team. We can't win alone.
I can't win alone. Me and James, we just can't win alone.
That's where the clip came from. That's why basketball has played five on five.
So we just need everybody to just try to keep finding ways to get better and we'll be fine. It's still in context.
You're the MVP of the league. Just say I sucked and it's all on me.
Yes. The context doesn't make it that much better.
I mean, he did say that. No, but yeah.
No, I agree with P&T. The context does not make it that much better.
It makes it slightly better that he said first, I need to be better. But dude, we ripped Giannis for his quote on the other side that's also not true not true the media did not rip yannis we but like this show i don't even think that's true yes i don't even think i have i have fucking dudes with like four followers followers and a yannis picture still tweeting me after every game being like was this game a failure was this game a failure yes we ripped yannis was a clown quote.
No, you sugarcoated it. No, I said he's not a failure, but that season was a failure.
No, I mean, you sugarcoated it just like every other person in the media who it's going to be the same thing as Embiid and then Embiid's going to get trashed, especially by Philly media. And no, no, no, no, no, no.
This is the... Embiid mvp because of the media dude correct correct they fucking sugar-coated his failures in the playoffs what does that have to do with the that's what they that's why they did yoke an mvp has nothing that's why yoke it's didn't win three in a row because he never because that was a whole storyline that's not you can't give a guy a third mvp who doesn't do in the playoffs.
That absolutely was the storyline. Embiid hasn't done it in the playoffs either.
That's what I'm saying. How is that an argument and then be like, oh, now we should give it to Embiid.
Embiid has gotten passes. That's what I'm saying.
No, he hasn't. Yes, he has.
No, he hasn't. Has Embiid gotten passes? No, no.
Just because you say that he gets a pass, does that mean that he gets a fucking pass? He said he got a pass. I honestly don't know what that means.
What do you mean gets a pass? He's gotten passes in the past. You're saying that he gets a pass.
In the past. MVP is a pass.
In the past, he has not been criticized for not getting through the second round. Wrong, wrong, wrong.
You're listening to the wrong people. I got an MVP this year.
Turn off Russillo. Russillo gives Embiid a pass.
Dude, Jokic, just think about this. Jokic, the ding on him this year was that he did not go deep in the playoffs.
You can't give a third MVP to a guy who doesn't perform in the playoffs. Embiid has never performed in the playoffs.
Correct. So they give it to him.
But that has nothing to do with a regular season MVP. I guarantee Jokic did not get.
But that's what I'm saying. They gave him.
No, it was player fatigue. It was player fatigue.
And that's what the media does in the NBA with MVPs. And that's that.
I agree with that. It has nothing to do with the playoffs.
The storyline was Jokic sucks in the playoffs. No one talked about Embiid sucking in the playoffs.
Don't let Max do this because what Max is doing right now, he's grabbing onto one insequential part of the failure that was this season and then harping on that instead of addressing it head on. I don't give a fuck about the MVP.
I've said that a multitude of times. Oh, you tweet.
You were happy about it. I was publicly on this show show saying i don't give a fuck about the mvp and when mb was crying after he won he was like this is bad and it was so i i think listen any team would be would be lucky to have joel and beat he's an awesome i like it i don't i don't think that there's anything about his game necessarily that that hamstrings him in the playoffs, besides obviously being susceptible to injury, which some players are.

Not being in shape.

But you can always say Doc Rivers is way, way bigger of an issue for him

than his physical abilities.

Getting rid of Doc Rivers, I think then if he loses next season

in the postseason, in the second round, then he will no longer have a pass. PFT just gave Embiid a pass.
He did. He literally said Doc Rivers.
My whole point is Doc Rivers is who he is. James Harden is who he is.
The conversation should only be about Joel Embiid after this series. That's my thought.
I am telling you the love story of i am terrified from for what's about to happen this offseason because the love story of joel and bead and philadelphia and i love him like it's going into the wrong direction and he's a great player love joe i want him to stay on the sixers but i know things are about to go south and that is i'm terrified i think that there's a good chance he wakes up like he sees what philadelphia is saying about him tonight and tomorrow and and once out i just then you have one chance yeah then max you have one chance it's on you tell joelle and bead what you really feel and i can't do that sports podcast he's gonna listen to this max listen to'm not going to give him a pass. I'm not going to give him a pass.
I mean, he was. Well, then you're driving him away, Max.
Then you're going to be responsible when he leaves. All I am saying is I love Joel.
I think I want him to be on this team forever. He's clearly not a go-to guy in the playoffs.
He's just not. And, like, that's something.
Like, and if he does go, he's going to go somewhere where he doesn't have to be the go-to guy in the playoffs he's just not and like that's something like even and if he does go he's going to go somewhere where he doesn't have to be the go-to guy in the playoffs he's not he can't lead a team deep in a playoff run but he's still a really good player he's a phenomenal player but like this is the the turning point of like we have we know who joel and bead is now right like that's what he is like Anthony Davis is... Well, Anthony Davis is better than Joel Embiid.
No, he's not. Yes, he is.
No, he's not. Anthony Davis does the exact same thing.
Does the exact same thing, but has LeBron James... But he's won a title.
But he has LeBron James on his team. He was...
Anthony Davis... He's played great in these playoffs.
When did he win a title? Half a title. Oh, yeah.
Half a title. Clip that.
Clip that. Half a title.
Anthony Davis has won a title. Half a title.
Anthony Davis officially has a title. I'm just saying.
Here's all I'm saying. Joe Embiid, love watching play.
Seems like... Anthony Davis also has had stinkers in this playoff.
Yeah, he has. And Embiid has had good games in this playoff.
Yes. So like, but Anthony Davis

has got, but he's number

two on his team and Embiid

is number one.

That's all I'm saying.

I would say Anthony Davis

is number one on his team.

No, he's not.

Yes, he is.

No, he's not.

He goes, that team goes

as Anthony Davis goes.

But LeBron James is that team.

Either way, Anthony Davis

also had like, remember

that fucking series against

the Blazers where he was

like out of this world.

Good.

Either way, don't, don't,

let's not do an Anthony

Davis, Joel Embiid debate.

My point is, Joel Embiid's

I'm sorry. the Blazers where he was like out of this world good either way don't don't let's not do an Anthony Davis Joel Embiid debate my point is Joel Embiid's a phenomenal player I fucking love him as a guy he deserves to be getting all the shit in the world and I don't think he's gotten all the shit he's had Ben Simmons people like PFT saying Doc Rivers is the problem he's had all these other things that have been able to excuse injuries.
He stunk, and they needed him. And it's similar to Jason Tatum where it's like, if you're the best player on the court, you step up in that moment.
Otherwise, you need the criticism. This series, he needed to be there at the end of Game 6 and Game 7.
He didn't get the ball at the end of game six. I blame that somewhat on James Harden, but that's also like, dude, he dominated the entire game.
Give me the ball. He just didn't get, no one gave him the ball.
He's a center. That's what I've been saying about this whole time.
You have said that, but Jokic is a center too. Yes, but that's also, I'm going to go, this is Doc Rivers.
I just want to say this right now yoke did just average a triple double in the series against and i'm not i'm not arguing jokic and bead i haven't said that i haven't said that once now it is clear it is clear who you would rather want on your team jokic or mb you would want jokic after what joel mb just did in game seven and after what jokic just did in the in the west like that's clear I'm not arguing that all I'm arguing is that Embiid still is a top player in the league he may not be the number one guy on a championship team but there's not that many guys out there in the league okay let's talk failures and losers real quick because we were talking about we're talking about failures after the Bucs series yes we're talking about the process right i think it might be time to do a post-mortem on the process did the process work did the process of the process work and the results of the process didn't work so we're process guys on this podcast but i'm starting to think that when you do the process and you intentionally lose you create a losing stink around your for a while. And that stink is harder to get off of than you might think just by having all the talent around.
Thoughts? Sure. I don't care.
I'm just thinking about what happened in this game and where this... I don't even give a fuck where this team goes.
All right, that's a good answer.

I mean, Max, listen, we're losers, PFT.

Yeah, welcome.

I'm a different loser.

He loses one of us.

You're such a loser.

It's such a catastrophic losing that you do.

The clip is great.

It's on social media.

It's during the stream, but Max talking about the last six months.

Do you want to just reflect on the show? Yeah. I't know how long have you been on the show i've been on this show since not a full year since august of 2022 i've been a part of four bets i am three and one in the four bets first had to eat 17 hot dogs came in second in the in the hot dog competition that was me coming in second place it's fitting for philly yeah yeah oh yeah great point shake numbers wait you're forgetting that you lost the World Series and got no hit in the World Series.
No, I'm talking about bets. Oh, yeah, but you also lost the World Series and got no hit in the World Series.
Correct. Lost the World Series.
One game, one, though. There was a game null of hits.
Null of hits. Number two, Big Cat bought my ticket to the Super Bowl with the condition that I pay him if the Eagles lose, lose $6,000.
A lot of money to a man like myself. Paid the $6,000.
Oh, drank champagne before. Whatever.
Threw up on yourself. Three.
The third loss. Lost your phone.
The third loss. Soul Patch.
Soul Patch on on my face looks really sick, really happy about it.

Checking the YouTube.

It's going to have.

Him getting animated in person has been hilarious.

Tune into the YouTube and watch Max go on the rant because it's hilarious.

I have won one bet.

I have won one bet.

What's the one bet?

The winner got to do the Ray Allen tweet.

Oh!

So I did win the one bet.

That was sick. So you mean you're one in three.
You're not and one yeah one whatever who cares yeah who cares yeah doc river style uh don't forget you want a pair of jordans yeah that that was actually the only that was sick and the mls because yeah because the eagles lost no but oh yeah the Philadelphia union came in second. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, that was a regular season game.

That meant absolutely nothing.

No, that was the final.

You also got everyone on UCLA injured.

Yeah, that was another loser.

I would actually count UConn winning the title as a loser for you

because you bet against them every single game.

Max, Homa, he may never recover from us betting on him in the Masters Your stink on him Yeah you lose In spectacular fashion Like you two are both Massive losers but it's not even It's so huge It's just like we wake up lose go on with our life You wake up get your hopes up Get them way up Get them even further up And then get them way up, get them even further up,

and then get them squashed like a bug every day.

Yeah, we're very comfortable in our losing.

And one day you'll get there, Max,

but right now you're in such denial about being a loser.

I'm not in a denial.

Yeah, like that.

Chicago sports might have,

until they do the NBA draft lottery,

they could have a historic three number one picks. And you're still bigger loser than me this last year.
Next. Do you still trust the process? No, the process is done.
The process is done. Yeah.
So it's a Ponzi. Remember when I said it was a Ponzi scheme? I don't.
I'm not doing this whole Ponzi scheme. I'm just like, what is that? I'm not doing the whole Ponzi scheme.
The process was a thing that failed. And it's as simple as that.
Do you regret at all doing the LeBron James dance in the gambling cave in the first quarter? Yes, I regret it. Yes.
Answer, yes. Wish I didn't do it.
Wish I didn't appear on any stream for the past two weeks yes wish wish that didn't happen Max do you regret calling Philly title town I regretted that before I even finished the fucking sentence like there's nothing that has been regretted more in a quicker amount of time that's like the fact that that question is being asked when you go back to it and it's

like it's titled i can't say that and then it was just gone max do you regret hating dogs so you don't even have like i don't hate fucking dogs whoa i don't hate okay good good good good max Wait.

Max.

Max.

Do you like?

I don't hate.

What did you say?

I don't hate, what did you say? I don't hate fucking dogs. So, you love fucking dogs.
So I guess he does love dogs. He doesn't like to pet them.
He doesn't like to pet them. Right.
Yeah, he's a little impressive. You love dogs.
No, you're like a very, very. You guys were wrong about that one.
Yeah, you love dogs you know you're like a very very yes we're wrong about that one

yeah you love dogs yeah mac listen max doesn't love like the fur and the eyes and the ears the outside but max loves the shut up shut up no shut up max doesn't like dogs he loves dogs if you get what I'm saying.

Tops are better than frogs.

Look at him right now.

I hate this show so much. It can't get lower.
We love you. We love you as much as you love fucking dogs.
It's just, Hank, you don't get to laugh that hard. That's the only that sucks about it is hank gets so much i'm absolutely loving everything about max right now and this interaction but i i can just hear hank smiling yeah so so much with every sentence that he says and that's pissing me off i have uh i mean max i don't i don't know what to say at this point you're you're as low as you could get what I'm about as, I don't know what to say at this point.
You're as low as you could get.

What?

I'm about as low.

I can't believe this just happens.

It's just like a tri-yearly thing that I just, whatever.

I did give him like a, well, he was shaving his face

and he was uncovering his gross rash.

I was like, Max, has there been a part of you at all in the last year where you wish you hadn't taken this job and you just remained like an anonymous ogre in the video bay and he to his credit he said no i love doing this show so yeah or he kind of said that he kind was like, he hemmed and hawed a little bit like that. He did that.
Yeah, no, happy to be here. Not right now.
We love you, Bax. Okay, we do love you.
Like you do. You've been on such a run.
You want to switch with Hank? Watch your hand. Watch your hand.

No, he's fine.

No, he's fine. Switch with Hank.
Switch with Hank. You can switch with Hank.
Max, that was it for Max. Good job, Max.
Good job, Max. Good job, Max.
He's just so far. Why are we going? All right, one last thing about this series, and then we can talk about the other stuff.
I think there should be a rule in MVP voting that if you don't get past second round, it just goes to the second place guy.

Or maybe whoever gets to the like you have to get to the conference finals.

It's same as NFL.

You have to win at least one playoff game.

Like I know it's a regular season award, but I think there should be like a stipulation that because you don't want to change it where you vote after the playoff game like I know it's a regular season award but I think there should be like a stipulation that's because you don't want to change it where you vote after the playoffs because then they'll just give it to the best player in the playoffs that would just be the MVP every year and they would just disregard the regular season but just having one stipulation where it's like okay you got the MVP we won't give it to you until you get to the conference finals then you officially become the mvp i i do kind of like that that every now and again where it happens when like peyton manning wins the nfl mvp and then he would get his ass kicked by tom brady in the playoffs and he'd still have to accept the award while tom brady had yet to play in the Super Bowl that's that's almost as much of

a punishment as giving it to somebody else it was uh remember they stopped doing it in the NBA after Dirk won the MVP yeah and then lost in the first round of the Warriors and uh they they stopped like doing that ceremony in the second round but I really like I people complain about it because I think it's fair if you win the mvp and you flame out it does feel a little hollow so make that just a rule where you get the mvp if you get to the conference finals like you had like the mvp has to come from the conference it's the best player regular season who also got to the conference finals i don't i don't know if i totally agree with that but i i like the idea of having the voting take place like in the middle of the playoffs. So if somebody flames out in really, really spectacular fashion, that will be in the back of their mind.
And so if it's a toss-up, like in this case, if it was Embiid and Jokic and the voting happened like during this series, then it might have swung the other way. I don't know that you should wait.
I don't that you should like take it away from somebody but i think having the voting take place midway through the playoffs would be probably a happy compromise and maybe it's uh yeah like an mlb you got to make the playoffs that'd be cool you know yeah it's just i don't know i guess i really don't care about mvp at the end of the day it's more just this like i was looking back it actually is only let's see one two three it's happened a bunch in the last like five years but the last 30 years has only happened like eight or eight times so you'd only have to and some of them would end up being like it would be a net positive like tim duncan would lose one but he'd get another one so i don't know just a thought just a thought uh okay max is back in his seat hanks here uh you want to talk some other other nba stuff should we talk lakers warriors and yep uh don't clip this but what lebron james did on friday night is pretty fucking mind-boggling i'm not a fan of the guy but i can step back and be like he's in year 20 and he just went up against the warriors who weren't you know peak warriors but either way and he dropped to 39 and 9 in year 20 uh and his career like the longevity of his career is insane he's in another conference final i think he's made the conference finals like you know in healthy years it years. It's something ridiculous where it's pretty much every year.
He is like his own conference final dynasty. But that Lakers like I'm now officially just I think I'm just going to have to put a big bet on the Nuggets because I'm so scared the Lakers.
I have to like do like a last stand because I think the Lakers win the title. Yeah.
Join me. This is the way.
Shout out. LeBron was great.
Also, Rob Lowe and the rest of the Lakers front office should get some credit because their team sucked. They were a bad, bad team until they got rid of – well, maybe that's the move.
It's just get Westbrook on your team and then get rid of them halfway through the season, and then the vibes by comparison will be so much higher that your team will actually gel together. Because the front office turned this team around from what looked like a dead-end season.
And now they legitimately look like they could win a championship. They were so good against the Warriors.
LeBron James, yeah, it's like fountain of youth. Even though he did spend like 50 seconds on the ground, slapping the floor, wiping his eyes down.
I thought he was dead for a while on that one shot. He went to the hole, got knocked down, and D'Angelo Russell came behind him and did the flex pose behind him.
Yeah. And then held the flex pose for like 40 seconds while LeBron was on the ground crying until he got up.
But that's just what you're going to get with LeBron. He's going to be awesome, and then he'll do some hilarious things that everybody can make fun of.
And so he's fun to watch. But, yeah, the Lakers, they should get the credit for this.
The Warriors dynasty may be over. That'll be a conversation.
That'll be happening all over first take tomorrow. Yeah, I don't know.
So Clay was awful. Like, if you got anything from Clay, they might go seven.
I'm saying, like, pretty much any game. He was, at the end there, they were leaving him open, basically, being like, go ahead and shoot.
You're not going to make it. Uh, but Draymond looked like he still has something in left in the tank and Steph is still Steph.
So I don't know. I mean, if they could make a couple of moves, I, Kerr did have a quote after where he's like, we weren't a championship caliber team.
Like that's just, we, you could tell that we were not on that level uh but i i do think that like when you have steph curry who's still as good as he is the knee jerk would probably be like let's try to run back as much of this as possible because starting fresh and totally over feels like it would be pretty hard to do when he's 35 years old yeah but it depends on who you move on from that's how we like we can continue the steph dynasty for the no of course it's gonna have it's gonna have to evolve like they're gonna have to get some good players that aren't currently on the roster to take over uh guys like probably draymond is his last season maybe maybe one more season left oh i think he's gonna play at least at least one season left playing meaningful minutes on this Warriors team is what i'm saying like he could maybe go somewhere else oh see i can contribute i i'm like reverse where i was like watching draymond in this series like that's how important he is to what they do like you need him to to you need to resign him and hope that he can stay you know like don't like, don't let him leave because he is like, that's, he is just as important, not just as important as Steph, but he's the second most important guy in everything that they do. And I just don't know what you do with clay, but I, my point is he's third, Steph's 35 years old.
Are you going to blow the whole thing up and hope that you can figure it out around him? Cause that feels like it might take too time or do you try to tinker with it and be like hey let's try one or two more years here while Steph is still Steph and see if we can recapture something you got to get one more big piece in you can't run it back with the same team no no I agree I agree I just say you can't blow the whole thing up yeah it, it's not demolition. Dynasty, not over, just dynasty on pause.
But how many years do they get without a championship for it to be considered the same dynasty? Like if they lose next year and then win the year after, are we considering that part of the same dynasty? If they win next year, you're saying? No, if they lose this year, obviously they will lose lose this year and then they lose next year and then win the year after i think that you would because it's only it's only going to be two seasons removed from a dynasty i think it becomes like the tim duncan where it's like it all kind of blends together and you're like oh yeah dynasty but it was just uh you know it was a very long period of time where they were just very very good and in the mix every single year yeah i i agree i think if you win another in the next three years then it still counts it blends together as the same right um yeah so the lakers i'm scared of austin reeves i fucking love austin reeves though that half court shot was awesome everyone pumped up all the uh all the celebrities i can't max his face is tough to look at pft it's yeah i just caught it out of the corner of my eye i'm i think he looks good i think he just has to dress appropriately he does not think that what does that mean hank let's unpack that what do you mean dress appropriately i think he needs like hawaiian shirts no I think like all black, all black and maybe like he's got to embrace the roadie. Yeah, it looks like a COVID mask.
No, you can't wear a COVID mask. All black.
Yeah, you're right. All black.
Maybe like a black jacket with patches on the back. Yeah, I think Hank needs to get shaved.
Just like a sheep should have told you should have told that to Embi you should have. Yeah, so the Lakers, I am very afraid of them, PFT.
Yeah. Do you agree with me that as a Nuggets fan, you are one right now, at least for the next seven games? I've always loved Jokic, yeah.
Yeah, you would agree that playing the Warriors would have been by far the preferable route for us. Oh, easily.
Easily. Yeah, I am afraid of the Lakers.
But again, like, man, Anthony Davis, just healthy, healthy as a horse. He's just he's out there just setting records for health.
You know what scares me? And this Hank, you shouldn't get to listen to this. Coley, our former colleague, good friend of ours, said something to me once that like registered in my head and i never got it out of it out of my head when you talk about playoff matchups it was before the patriots played the falcons in the super bowl and he was like yeah the patriots like they're not gonna lose to the falcons like it's the falcons like even though the Falcons were the NFC champions he was saying just franchise wise it's the Falcons and I remember just being like what the fuck and then when it was 28-3 I was like ha Coley looks like an idiot and then we know the rest of that story the Lakers aren't gonna lose to the Nuggets like Like, just as, like, NBA history goes.

Do you know what I mean?

That's what scares me.

Just take out the fact that the Nuggets, I think, are a better team.

It's the Lakers and the Nuggets.

And that sucks.

It's the Nuggets.

That sucks to have in my head.

And I hope it's wrong.

But Coley, shout out Coley.

And I know Hank, like, is nodding along because you've probably had many sporting events in your life that have been exactly that. It's the Lakers and the Nuggets.
It's like, remember, you remember the Patriots should have lost to the Jaguars in the playoffs in the AFC Championship game? The Patriots don't, they're not going to lose to the Jaguars. To the Jaguars, right.
Yeah, the refs probably have that in the back of their head too. That's why they're oh yeah Miles Jack's down because they're like it's the Jaguars of course he's down they're not gonna beat the Patriots right but yeah I understand what you're saying but these aren't those nuggets these are these nuggets yeah we need nuggets you know what we need we need like a 2001 Diamondbacks Yankees because that could have absolutely been the same case the Yankees aren't gonna lose the diamondbacks so we need that yeah we need that yeah that was that was a shocker because it was also wasn't it right after 9 11 it was yes and everybody in america was like oh yeah the the yankees are gonna it's gonna be a sweep yeah it's gonna be it's gonna be a whopping so yeah we just need it's these nuggets not those nuggets get those old nuggets out of your the new nuggets.
Yes, yes. Okay, and then the last NBA game, then we'll talk some hockey.
Knicks tried hard. Jalen Brunson went out on his sword.
And now the Heat in the Eastern Conference Finals. I really do think that Hank should be way more scared of the Heat than the Sixers just because of Jake.
Similar to the Lakers-Duggets thing, Jake just being there and being like, oh, I don't really care, and then having them beat the Celtics after the war Hank went through, it does kind of work out perfectly. Jake's not going to lose to Hank last year.
Yeah, that's true.

Good point.

Yeah, that's true.

I think the Heat, like, I think it's going to be a good series.

I don't, the Heat are not as talented as the Celtics,

but I think the coaching discrepancy between Spoh and Missoula

will definitely swing the Heat's way for at least a game.

Massive, massive coaching discrepancy. Am I wrong wrong spolstra has never won a coach of the year hmm uh probably not because all those because the years that he won titles everyone was like well it's because he's got a super team yeah but i mean i think we should start banging that drum spolstra should be coach of the year last year should have been the year when they were the one seed but if that if last year is not going to be the year then like when will it happen you got you should get one he's underappreciated he got mbca coach of the year in 2017 what is that i don't know what that is uh national basketball coaches association is probably that's not the coach the the year yeah yeah yeah uh are you nervous Hank I'm a little nervous I still sometimes think about that game seven last year where the Celtics were up and then the heat came back and Jimmy Beller missed that three that would have been probably one of the most devastating sports moments of my life and it just randomly pops flashed into my head sometimes so I am nervous I do think the Celtics should win uh they'll probably lose a couple games because of coaching but i think it should be celtics in six or celtics in seven i think it'll be a i'm more worried about the heat than i was about the sixers going into the sixers series the heat like jimmy butler is the opposite of joel and b and james hart polar opposite he gets better in the playoffs and is worse in the regular season.
Kevin Love, proven winner. Yeah.
Max Truce. Max Truce.
Robinson. Bam.
Bam was great in the closeout game. Bam was phenomenal.
He had like 15 points. It felt like five minutes into the game.
I just think the Heat aren't as good as they were last year in the Celtics. like they they know that they should win the series yeah i uh so should the bucks so should the bucks so should the nicks so should the bulls so should not really know they definitely shouldn't have yeah i uh have you seen yeah go ahead i was just gonna say official predictions hank said celtics in six or cics in seven.
Celtics in six official. So what's the bet? Between Hank and Jake.
I'm done with that. Soul patch? I think I'm good with bets.
I've never had facial hair in my life. Soul patch? You can't quit on bets.
By the way, my sick, twisted brain, what is like three days ago, I offered that the loser of the soul patch bet can automatically hit a double or nothing button for week one of the NFL Eagles Patriots. No.
Yeah. It's not the playoffs.
What about yours? It's not your bet to make, Dan. I don't care, Hank.
It's the show for the listeners, Hank. How about this? If you want the show to be great, why don't we say, like, if it's a whopping, if it's four to one or four to nothing, if a whopping is on the table, the loser can't play golf for a month.
Sure. Okay.
Okay. A round of golf? You can't play any golf.
You can't swing a club.

Can't practice.

4-0 or 4-1?

That's a bigger risk for me, considering the odds.

Jake should get sweep.

Yeah, Jake should get if he gets swept,

and Hank should have to do it if the Celtics lose 4-1 or 4-0. Yep.

Deal? You spot him a game. Okay.
All right. All right.
I like it. If the Eagles beat the Patriots by 20, you should have to get a soul patch.
We'll see what the spread is. Okay.
All right. It would be so awesome if they heat 1-4-1.
Hank not golfing for his first month in Chicago would be incredible. Or you can get out of it with Soul Patch.
Okay. How can I get out of it? Soul Patch? Ray Allen tweet.
No. Okay.
Well, there you go. You can get out of it with that.
That's very easy. Have you seen Knicks fans going after Julius Randle? It's been quite a story.
They were stomping on his poster. Yeah i think was a kenya martin was tweeting about how he shouldn't be kissing his wife after a game uh that they lost it was very bizarre i i mean i i part of me is like yeah this is like if you're a knicks fan like you're supposed to be tough tough town to to to win in you got to deal with it but you can't flip the switch that fast from having absolutely no playoff success and then you win a series and then all of a sudden you're like, yeah, you actually shouldn't show affection to your wife after you lose.
You can't turn on a man that quick. You can't turn on a man that quickly.
I'm not the biggest Julius Randle fan in the world. I think that we've beaten him two years in a row in CJ McCollum mccollum's fantasy football league no big deal but i don't think that you should like trash the man because uh you you win one playoff series in the last whatever 15 years and you're like we're supposed to be better than this no you had a nice run you should have enjoyed it which you did but don't turn on him that quickly counterpoint and i agree with the the like kissing the wife that was stupid but like they were trashing his they were they were stomping on they're doing graffiti on his poster at madison square garden counterpoint knicks fans root so hard for the knicks that even winning a series was like a championship so it felt like they were like knicks fans in the playoffs live a life of like seven years in one week it feels like the the emotions that they go through.
So yeah. So they, they won a championship and then lost a championship.
Right. Right.
Right. Pretty much.
And then they trashed Julius Randall on the way out. Yeah.
Hank, what were you going to say? I'll say for who's back. Okay.
Uh, so hockey playoffs real quick. We are watching game six of the Oilers right now.
Congratulations to Carolina and Florida being in the Eastern conference, uh, finals, huge for hockey. That's going to be great.
What? That's tough. Yeah.
I mean, I think it's exciting. I'm going to go with Carolina.
Cause why not? Who knows? But I do have something PFT for you. Uh, our friend, Spencer Hawes, after we made him go to a Kraken game.
Yeah, we bullied him into. For game seven.
I have yours right here in the studio. Hank, can you put it on? It's a Kraken jersey for those listening.
Can you model it for me, Hank? Yeah. I got to figure out the official blue that you're wearing.

Is that teal? Is that teal?

Is that what it's called?

That's a beautiful.

No, it's a special color, Billy.

Jake looked up the Pantone.

We're crackheads.

Oh, that's a sick jersey.

Teal?

Yep.

We're crackheads.

No, you're wearing ice blue.

We are on the bandwagon for the crack.

Ice blue.

Huge crackheads.

I've always been a crackhead.

I grew up with Marion Barry as my mayor. So that's, I love this team.
Let's go. Yes.
Yes. And they, like, there are fun.
That series has been so much fun to watch. I know the second round hasn't been great, but we get it.
We get a game seven. Every game has been like 100 goals.
That's a beautiful hat, Hank. That's as beautiful hat.
His hat is money. We're crackheads.
Yeah, Hank, I love that jersey, but if you steal it, I will slit your throat. Yeah, I was going to say, it's a shame you're never going to see it again.
Yeah. I mean, this is kind of your hat, too, I think.
You know what we should do? You're looking real comfortable on that side of the desk. I'm feeling great.
Jake, tomorrow morning, I'll give you my credit card. Go to the NHL shop.
It's right near here. Right down the street and get Max.
My first Panther shirt. Yeah, get Max a Dallas Stars jersey for tomorrow night.
Oh, playing a little guitar. If we get Max into Dallas Stars jersey, we're good.
Yeah, let's do it. Max, you have to be our whore now in terms of just rooting for teams that we want to lose.
He's not even when I say he's not listening. He's just he's just on his swivel chair, just scrolling Twitter, just as sad as sad gets.
No, I'm all right. Lakers, though.
So you're getting your wish there. Okay.
Yes. That's fucking hate.
I hate Hank when he wins. Look at him.
I know it's it's it's brutal. It's it's brutal because I love the guy like a brother.
But there are times when he wins that make me want to be like, I don't ever want to talk to you again in my life. Yeah, no, I feel those vibes.
I felt like that after the lottery ball, honestly, like before. Let's not talk about that till the end.

No, exactly.

I think I congrats on your kid.

Thank you.

Let's not talk about that till the end.

But yeah, he's the worst to be around because he's just so smug.

No, what does that mean?

Smugness.

It's smug.

I'm just happy.

And you win so much.

I know.

That's the problem.

Celtics have been in the final four or a Boston team has been in the final four for 14 straight years. Shut the fuck up.
But we have that actually made Max cry a little bit. He started to cry a little bit.
You understand that like me, me and big cat, we can't even understand what that must feel like. Having 14 years of deep playoff runs, one right after the other.
It must be. It's really not that great.
It must be fucking awesome. It's really not.
It's really not that great. I'll tell you that.
Well, the second round isn't that deep. No, the second round is not deep at all.
Joel Embiid's barely gotten it in. I'm talking whatever.
The Eagles and the Phillies? No, he's back to spouting. All right, let's do who's back in the week.
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Okay, who's back of the week, Hank?

My who's back of the week is Blake Griffin.

Oh!

Welcome to the third round of the NBA playoffs. Blake of the year.

All right.

Big day.

I'm happy for him. Let's go, Blake.
Was that a subtle dig? No. About him being in the third round? No, it's like the monkey's off his back.
Okay. I'm happy for him.
Felt like a dig. This is what happens when you don't have Doc Rivers hang on.
I love him so much, I didn't even know he hadn't got to the third hadn't got to the third round that's why i just assumed he had no i do i love him so much i assumed he had it's something that reporters in the media and people talk about with him and i'm happy it's no longer a storyline let's get is his back getting better it's got to be all right i want to see he could there's no reason he he's like 10 times better than grant williams i'm not trying to start shit in that locker room but he is he is you know he would be awesome if you could if he could give you 10 12 minutes a game if the series goes the way that hank thinks that it's gonna go and it's not particularly close we could see blake getting in wait i'll put it this way if you don't ask him in the game is good yeah i think it's his back because there's been blowouts yeah if haslam gets in the game. I you don't get in the game.
Good. Yeah.
I think it's his back. There's been blowout.
Yeah. If Haslam gets in the game, I need to see Blake in the game.
I think he just needs to get his back healthy and he'll play regular minutes. Yeah.
Blake's back. I hope so.
But yeah, I'm just happy for him. I thought we should have mentioned that.
I forgot earlier. I don't.
It wasn't a dig at all. legitimately i love him so much if you told me he had three titles i'd be like yeah duh he's the fucking man blake of the years maybe well but i'm talking about nba titles he's coming for his first okay uh that would be a nice we could just we could just have hank we should have blake produce the podcast that day instead of hank yes yeah i have to sell this with the title.
Hank, would you actually know because then Hank's like, that means that I get to go to the closeout game and party and not have to work the next day. True.
Good point. Good point.
No, Hank should produce that podcast. For sure.
Yeah. Okay.
You hate golf. No, I don't.
I just hate when you golf and you win. It's the combo.
Like, if you were losing in golfing, it would be totally fine. It's the fact that you keep winning, and then you're like, oh, what do I have on my Monday calendar? Golf.
It's bullshit. That's bullshit.
No, we got a photo shoot tomorrow. It's got to even out at some point.
It's got to even out at some point. I'm not feeling well for that photo shoot tomorrow.
Well, we have to do it for merch, so... It's mandatory.
You'll be there. I am not a member of content of this show.
You'll be there. No one wants to see me wear our merch.
Everyone does. I do.
Wrong. Do you know how many Sad Max mugs we sold? That's a great point.
Great point.

That's such a good point.

So you'll be there for the photo shoot.

I hate our merch team.

Oh, my God.

Oh, damn.

Scheduling this tomorrow is just.

Pilar and Allison are the best.

Why are you doing that?

All right.

PFT.

My who's back of the week is Ja Morant.

Old Ja's back in the news. I don't know if you guys checked social media today, but Ja was on Instagram Live.
He's addicted to going on Instagram Live, and he had a gun in his hand. Allegedly.
He's addicted to guns. It looked like a gun.
He's addicted to holding guns on social media. He did go to rehab for that for about three days, and I thought that he was cured.
I think the NBA thought that he was cured of his addiction. But, no, he's back at it, and people are saying that he should be suspended, which he was.
People are saying he should be kicked off the Grizzlies, which he has not been, just suspended. I just want to say that let's remember that you have a First and Second Amendment in this country, so you can post whatever you want on social media even if you happen to be holding a gun i don't think that he was breaking any laws in this video was he just being he was just being a dumbass right no i don't think he has a permit for that gun well so there's a couple laws being broken uh it was still he hasn't gotten a bigger gun.
Still a small gun. That was a decent gun.
That was a decent gun.

It was a little size up gotten a bigger gun. Still a small gun.
I thought it was bigger.

That was a decent gun.

That was a decent gun. It was a little size up, but dude, like, if you're going to get suspended from the Grizzlies, take out a bazooka.

Like, do it.

And then second, it was for 115 viewers on Instagram Live.

It looked like a 45.

You have to do it for more viewers.

I'm just speaking just straight facts. Like, have your gun debates over here i don't give a fuck bigger gun more viewers worth it it was his friend it's not worth it it was his friend's instagram live and then you you could you could see the moment where he turned the camera to jaw yeah and then somebody like hit the camera out of his hand real quick because it's like no josh got his gun out again yeah uh it was it was kind of funny to see that that play out in real life it's like you should have one reason or one rule if you're jaw's friend it's just don't go live on instagram when he has a gun in his hand right which might be more often than not yeah that's yeah it might be all the time don't go on instagram i'm just i'm i'm praying for jaw i'm praying for jaw that he gets another bout of treatment and uh three days later he's out of like whatever orlando halfway house that he went to and he's cured for another three months of holding a gun on live stream yeah it's um it's a weird story i also think jaw like if i were defending jaw in uh in front of like adam silver i would just pull up all the hilarious tweets that happen every time jaw does this because it is very funny on twitter whenever he does this uh i'd be like look it's good for like bringing people together like look at all these look at all these memes look at all these jokes this is kind of cool like everyone's getting along getting jokes on my expense.
I'm actually doing a greater good for humanity by letting everyone do open mic night on like a Sunday morning. Yeah, this is what we do as a country.
We highlight the negative and we dismiss the positive. If I'm defending him, I make a super cut of all the times that John Moran has not been holding a gun on Instagram live because it's probably been at least once or twice and we can just focus in on those screenshots and be like look you're just you're focusing in on on what might be one percent of the time that he's live on instagram yeah is when he's actively holding a gun so i don't i i don't know what the grizzlies do like i i have to imagine that the last time they had this conversation with John, they were like, Hey, it's a pretty easy rule that you have to follow.
It's just don't broadcast yourself holding a gun. And then he did that long sit down interview and he acted like he was a changed guy.
If you're the Grizzlies, do you, do you get rid of them? Do you move on from job? Because, because he just is dumb because he's dumb as shit i i don't think so and it has gotten a little like weird uh with some of the debates being like well he's not doing anything illegal he's also just not using his brain because essentially there's there's a couple things that happen one is he's been in a couple gun incidents the one with you know the fight with the kid in his house also his friends with the pacers so like those were bad it's not like oh he's just a fanatical gun owner there's been some times when he's used he's flashed his gun in not great circumstances and second like the grizzlies are it's pretty easy to be like, dude, don't flash your gun ever.

And he, he went like one month. It's almost like a stupidity test of like, can you not flash your gun? And we'll be cool.
Like go, go in the mirror and flash your gun to yourself. Do that all you want, but like get, and you could say like, well, it wasn't his Instagram live.
I think also the grizzlies point is surround yourself with better people who might not just pop on instagram live while you are in the mood to flash your gun yeah or just get a knife let's let's try like downplaying it a little bit like let's try to phase this out i don't want i by no means am i suggesting that you go cold turkey off deadly weapons jaw because that that can be deadly too so you just next time have it be a sword like go through all the ninja turtles you could have it be a sword and then the sigh and then the bow staff and then the nunchuck and then next thing you know you're just walking around without a weapon we could we go bear mace we could go fucking he could he he could have uh you know brass knuckles yeah airsoft nerf gun yeah there's a lot of steps to rehabilitation here ultimately i don't think that like yeah the grizzlies would be dumb to move on from him but also john morant is being dumb to just not follow one rule just don't don't flash your gun anymore pretty pretty simple instructions that he has to follow and and there will be some shows that probably have like a very serious conversation about jaw and his like his future as a human and all that i don't i don't really feel the need to get into that or like pretend to understand what he does in his spare time and the friends that he has but uh ideally you would like to see this guy who's's about to make hundreds of millions of dollars not blow that opportunity because he's dumb as shit. Do you know what the Grizzlies also could do? They could think like a Silicon Valley startup where they're like, well, we know you work so hard, so we'll put a kegerator in the office and a ping pong table.
And like on Friday afternoons, everyone can get drunk. And it's like, oh, isn't this a great place to work? Why not, like once a week, just have gun flashing parties in a private room in the Grizzlies facility so he can get that out of his system? It's like, everyone bring your gun and show your gun to everyone, and we'll have fun, and we won't broadcast it, and then you walk out of it, and you're like, man, that was fun.
Can't wait to flash my gun next week at the gun flashing party yeah but also in memphis when you got that you got the bass pro shop pyramid right there with all the guns in the world inside that's like asking a player in las vegas don't go to any strip clubs yeah it's tough it's a it's a bad environment for job being so close to essentially like the world's coolest indoor gun supermarket We need to get more guns we do not need to get more guns i'm i billy you're the last person okay yeah okay you you do not need a gun i forbid you from getting a gun ever billy would just and i'm not saying this because i don't think billy is like homicidal billy would just shoot random animals he'd be shooting rats you It's called hunting. Right.
In the subway. Yeah.
Um, he,

you,

you, i'd hide billy would just shoot random animals he'd be shooting rats you know it's called hunting right in the subway yeah um he he should actually take a page out of billy's playbook and be like it was just an intrusive gun that i had i didn't even mean to pull it out um all right my who's back is yeah having children my third child was born uh wild wild circumstances on Friday. We got to West Virginia for rough and rowdy.

I was born. Wild circumstances on Friday.
We got to West Virginia for rough and rowdy. I was actually joking about it on the plane.
It's like, oh, man, like, I'm close. And like, we just got to get through these next eight hours.
And then my wife called me right like around like 615 right before doors open. She's like, yeah, my water just broke.
So went through the whole thing it's still the coolest thing in the world i cried again uh no shame in that there's it's it's weird when you have a kid there's two cries there's cry when the kid is being born because you're like oh my god this is like incredible and then like there's the 10 seconds that the kid hasn't cried yet and you're like oh my god he's not breathing and then they do the they like plunge their lungs and shit uh so that that gets scary cry but yeah it's fucking cool and i think that was the biggest thing that happened on friday so so i was telling my friend that i was hanging out with on friday i was like yeah big cat just had had another kid it's three and then the thought occurred to me that there's going to be the first moment when you're at home and you've got your baby and then maybe your wife has your daughter and then your son is in like a different room and makes a noise and you look at each other. Like now what do we do? Like both of our hands are full.
How do we deal with three children? Already happened uh already happened this afternoon during the celtic sixers game uh i would say the only tip and i've only been a father of three for two days the only tip i'd give is i bought like a big gift for my my first son and my daughter and i saved it for when the baby came so when the baby came home i was like look here's a gift and it was like a toy they could play with for like four hours which was a lifesaver so that was that was huge like they were just like having fun with the new toy so i would anyone who's having multiple children i would do that again because that was uh that was thinking quick on my feet i would think that there's going to be a number of loud noises from rooms that you're not in where you're just gonna be like oh god i don't know how to handle this yeah it's it's uh it definitely but i'm very happy for you yeah that's very it's very very cool moment so i'm i'm just i'm very glad that you got to experience it like what a wonderful moment for you on friday what a great great thing that happened happened to this podcast on Friday. It really is.
I'm done. Three's it.
I'm done. Four's.
I mean, three's already a lot. Snip, snip.
I don't know. Get on TRT.
TRT? Yeah. Why? Then I would want to have more kids.
No, no, no. Your fertility would be gone.
Okay, then I'll get on TRT. Yeah.
Fuck it. Get jacked.
Get on TR get on trt but yeah having kids rules so anyone who's thinking about doing it all the dads out there pft soon yeah um yeah maybe we'll do an faq dad version sometime and i'll listen to you guys answer questions how you would do it and then i can answer how i do it but yeah i feel like i i feel like i should address that now because enough enough people have tweeted at me there wasn't a whole bunch but at the end of Friday's show I had been planning on the first time Hank gets a lottery ball to just say that I'm having a kid just to take all the air out of the room and to remove any sort of joy or accomplishment that Hank had I even told Hank that I was going to do this because I was I was thinking about doing this, but then I thought, no, I'm not going to joke about that. And I told Hank about that a month ago when we were down in Texas.
And then it happened on the show and Hank completely forgot that I told him I was going to do that in advance. And so for the record, I'm very happy just with my one child, Chris, who's really happy, by the way, because Dustin Johnson won.

Go Aces.

Aces still top of the table.

I know, but the four Aces, one shot back.

They almost had the first.

Who's the fourth Ace?

He already forgot.

Uline.

David, yeah.

Peter.

Wait, who are the other three, Hank?

Dustin Johnson, Pat Perez, Patrick Reed.

And?

Okay.

Peter Uline. Yeah, there you go.
Yeah, there you go. But, yeah, big weekend for Chris Azaz.
So he's happy, and I didn't have to explain to him, you're not going to have a younger sibling. Big Cat, I don't know if it was on the YouTube, but I didn't believe you, but Big Cat did a great job selling it with his face to me where I was like, he gave me a face that was like, I'm being dead serious.
Yeah, because I knew, obviously were joking because you told me. But that was where I was like, I had to really question myself when Big Cat was giving me like the...
Yeah. Yeah, but Big Cat does have cancer.
Yeah, I do. And Jake doesn't give a fuck.
That's not funny. Jake doesn't give a fuck.
That's not true. Also, shout out my firstborn son who this morning said to me, you're being really bossy.
You should try to sleep more. And it was literally the, I think you should leave hot dog.
Like we're all trying to find the guy who did this. I'm like, yeah, I shouldn't sleep more.
Thanks a lot, dude. So yeah, having kids rocks.
It was awesome. Also very cool.
Whatever, you know, obviously my third kid, but like the outpouring of love from everyone on the internet is pretty crazy. Always like kind of shocks me.
And yeah, thank you for everyone who reached out. Thank you for everyone congratulated me.
Thank you to memes who congratulated me before my child was born, which is like the most intense couple hours where you're like, I hope this kid comes out healthy and almost jinx the whole thing thing thank god it wasn't max who did that because then my kid would be dead but uh what he actually has that power he's such a loser uh but yeah thank you to everyone for reaching out it really is the fucking best what did your older kids think of the new baby uh son who's now four about to be four super pumped daughter who's middle child who also like is i can already tell is me uh just flopped on the floor and threw a temper tantrum so to be expected i mean she's a middle child so she's gonna be like fuck this like like i'm not the baby anymore this is bullshit so but she's only she's only two so she gets a pass billy who's back the way who's back is israel adesanya his girlfriend is suing him for breaking up with her and it's kind of a weird situation where she's basically trying to like get uh some of his money that he made while they were together but they were never married so just weird situation dan bilzerian warned us about this on the he did podcast we could never air he did there was actually a wealth of information and life advice that dan gave us that will we'll have to just sprinkle it out here and here and there yeah i never heard it can i hear it is it on the drop box no because you're too your your brain would have everything and be like this guy guy rocks. Yeah.
They were PFT and Big Cat. We're trying to cancel.
Yeah. Billy, we're actually we're trying to protect all the use out there from ever listening to this.
Okay. So is she going to win? I don't know.
She supported him. Yeah.
She get a little like a little tape. Wet the peak nothing crazy but wet the beak 100k yeah sure why not i don't know yeah for what i don't know supporting him just wet the beak i support him do you really support him she's like his dick so she's she's claiming she's a sex worker no that's not what i'm saying but will you support him emotionally she was with him when he got knocked out by Pierre who so was like where were you 5,000 people alright Hank get on this lawsuit I mean I'm curious what her argument is especially if they didn't get married yeah not getting married is pretty tough to win this one this would be like a landmark case if she wins yeah i'm probably not a great precedent yeah okay yeah i agree good point hank uh jake my who's back is majors major week pga championship at oak hill in rochester the full field was announced and can't wait hopefully our guys do well yeah'm rooting for, I think I'm going to see if I can do it on the sportsbook, some type of live.
I think a live guy is going to win, either Johnson, Smith, Koepka. Whoa.
Maybe Patrick Reed. Okay.
Ooh. Today, it was crazy.
I am. You're a live head.
I'm a live head. I was watching today.
It was on the CW and there was a rain delay. So it got postponed two hours.
It pushed two hours late. And right at 630, it was tied.
Cam Smith, Dustin Johnson, two holes left. And they just cut it.
Cut it from TV. Because of like that.
But they weren't even running any. What, like Seventh Heaven had Yeah.
They were running. They were running like Frazier reruns.
So I had to watch on the website. So that was a little nuts.
That's how hardcore you are. Yeah.
You went to the website. I like watching good golf.
Dustin Johnson, Cam Smith, Brooks, some of the best covers in the world. If they're at the top of the leaderboard, I'll be watching.
And I think they're going to be at the top of the leaderboard this week. I think Maxwell.
Can we just, let's focus this energy on, on Brooks. if you're at the top of the leaderboard i'll be watching and i think they're gonna be at the top of the leaderboard this week i think max can we just let's focus this energy on on brooks if you're gonna pick any live golfer i'd like to see you just say brooks yes yeah i like brooks i'm a big dust and john sound like you like it sound like there's a question mark at the end of that i like brooks i love brooks okay you love him yeah as much as max.
Max, you got a who's back for us? Fucking dogs. That was a whole time.
You don't? You don't have a who's back? Never done a who's back once in my life. What about your chins? That's a good point.
Your chins are back. My alternate who's back is Bryce Harper.
You got in a brawl today. That's good.
Your chins technically are back. Max, we got to hit the squat rack this week.
It's not going to do anything. Max, how quickly, realistically, do you think it's going to take for you to grow that facial hair back? I don't know.
Not as quickly as you think. You're an Italian.
Like, I haven't shaved in eight years that doesn't how is that possible max max thinks max fell for the you know like if you shave it it rose back faster that's true that basically is what they do to get 13 year olds to buy razors no that's true i can confirm that doesn't work i did it and it and it worked. You just kept on shaving every day?

Yeah.

And my brother, my dad, my dad's on his hands. Sounds like you guys can't grow facial hair.

None of them can?

No.

So all your facial hair is due to hard work?

Yeah.

Coincidence?

I don't think so.

Okay.

Hank has proven it.

Every day in middle school, I would just shave my face.

I'm being dead serious.

That's amazing.

Max, you got this.

I want it gone.

Your face?

Sure.

Everything.

All of it gone.

All right.

We got a great interview with J.J. Watt.

Let's get to that. And then we're going to announce it on the lottery ball machine after that.
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Watt. Okay, we now welcome on our good friend, recurring guest.
It is J.J. Watt in studio.
He's here in New York City because he's a team owner now. A governor.
Governor? My lord. Steward.
Steward. He's a steward.
The news is out he has purchased a interest in burnley fc yes uh he is part of the championship league soon to be the epl though they're getting promoted yes winners of the championship yeah winners of the championship now now let's start there are you a front runner because you bought a team that was already promoted well at the time we started it wasn't promoted okay yes so partially but yeah why not yeah how did you get involved with them i've been looking for a long time into into ownership and trying to find the right opportunity and trying to find the right situation we were actually talking um looking at a different situation somebody said have you spoken to burnley and we knew that when we were looking at this we wanted to wait until we found the right one to go all in with and um burnley kind of ticked all the boxes with the ownership group with the manager in place with the town it's a very small old mill town been through some adversity over the years but the club's been around since 1882 fan base lives and every single week, and they do a lot of good work in the community.

They have a great fan base, so we're really, really excited about it.

Now, how does it work when you buy a minority stake in a team?

Do you have a seat at the table?

Are you going to get to make decisions?

Because fans are going to be pissed at you if things go bad.

Can they point to you and be like –

Do you speak from experience?

Yes, unfortunately I do.

Listen, Swansea's in the middle of the table in the championship league.'re gonna work our way back up and if we don't that's just how life goes but are you ready for it if like they will point to you no doubt there is no doubt that they're gonna point to me um so i'm i don't have that level of see i mean at the end of the day it all comes down to uh it's a sport like that's's the fascinating part about investing in a sport. At the end of the day, you can do everything that you want to do from a front office standpoint.
You can try and create everything possible. But the ball could hit the post and go in the net.
The ball could hit the post and go out of the net. And it still comes down to that's the beauty of it.
That's why I love the English Premier League because it's relegation, it's promotion. The consequences are so much higher.
You should make your wife the coach. She's a professional soccer player.
She would be. I mean, she's brilliant at it.
Yeah. Our coach is pretty good.
I heard you. Before this, you came in.
You were saying he sucks. You're the first order of business.
Well, I mean, I'm trying to knock his value down because every club in the entire world is trying to take him away from us right now.

Really?

Shit.

Everybody's trying to take him.

You should play.

He's been very loyal.

You should.

I've tried.

So during lockdown, COVID, back in Wisconsin, we got some land.

And I built a field for my wife for her to practice because she was still playing.

And I was going out there to be her training partner.

And I was pretty confident in myself going into it. And I am am no longer confident myself yeah were you playing goalie yeah she fired that ball past my head at such a velocity that we made a rule where she had she couldn't kick from 18 yards or closer because yeah you take your head clear off now when you say that you built a field for uh you mowed a lawn yeah yeah.
Yeah. Okay.
What a joke statement. What a ridiculous statement.
You put a goal in a lawn. So I mowed the lawn.
I put the net up. Uh-huh.
And I lined the field. Oh, that actually counts.
I walked around with the line. That counts.
I did the line. No, you built a field.
That's very romantic. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You built your wife a field. Yeah.
You feel the dreams. Feel the dreams.
Yeah. If you build it, she will come.
Yeah. Oh, hey.
Whoops. Billy like that one.
Wait. so are you going to go? How many games are you going to go to? Because that is like the – that would be the fun part.
Like you see Ryan Reynolds and like how people are going nuts for those guys. Yeah, so we were over there a couple weeks ago.
We took in a game. We won 3-0 against Wigan, and we're going back over there on Friday because on Monday is our final home game.
Going to lift the trophy. Going to have the parade.
You are a front runner. You literally showed up.
It does not hurt. It does not hurt to come and join the parade.
So make the case. If anybody out there is a free agent, why should they support Burnley? Full disclosure, I'm a West Ham fan.
Okay. Come on, you irons.
Yeah. I think that's what they say.
They're the same colors. Yeah, same colors.
I literally, so when I was trying to figure out what team to root for in the EPL, I just kind of asked who would fit in with my style, with the teams that I already root for, and our friend Tom Fornelli advised me to cheer for West Ham. And what made him say that? Well, they're not very good, but they've got a lot of hooligans, and they're owned by, I think, a pornographer.

Oh, yeah.

A former pornographer.

Right up your alley.

But I mean, yeah, totally.

So I'm not like straight up.

I'm not dyed in the wool as a West Ham supporter.

But if I was a free agent, sell me on Burnley.

Well, so you already have the colors in your closet.

So it's a pretty easy transition.

So Burnley, like I said, it was founded in 1882, and it was part of the original English Football League and creating English football, basically. It's an old mill town, really, really old school, been through some difficult times.
The people are incredible. They show up and fill a 22,000 seat stadium every week and they live and die every single week with the club.
And it's, we're playing a beautiful style of football right now. For the last 8 to 10 years, we've played an extremely hard-nosed, tough, physical style of football.
Vincent Company's kind of come in and transitioned the team to a very beautiful, flowing style. I mean, we just score goals.
We score a lot of goals. Okay, because I don't think Swansea's going to go up anytime soon, so I might have to root for Burnley to root for Burnley you're welcome you're welcome aboard the place is nuts the people are great uh the drinks are are quite good okay now do you was there a moment when you invest in the team and you're like this all just started because I woke up early and started watching soccer because that like obviously your wife played soccer but I feel like you were watching uh E early mornings, Saturdays, and Sundays.
It feels like for a long time now. Yes, 100%.
So back in 2010, 2011, I started to watch the Premier League. They have it on.
Obviously, NBC does a great job with it. And I started to get into it then.
And that was when I didn't know anything. So I was trying to find my team.
I think that it's come a long way since then, but there's still a lot of people in that boat today trying to figure out okay i like watching the epl but i don't have a team and reason to affiliate with somebody and that's honestly what k and i are trying to do is trying to give people a reason to be on team burnley it's the greatest hangover uh move on like a second because i remember before i had kids like there were the saturdays and sundays just getting up and laying on the couch and watching a ball move on grass was like therapeutic and then it's a perfect nap not I mean no offense soccer but it is a perfect nap sport it's it it can provide that because you can you can usually like it you'll like listen you'll be half listening falling asleep and then when they get really loud you're like oh shit sick they've done such a good job with it and I think that America come along. I mean, if you just think about the conversation around soccer in the last 10 years, how it's grown, and the women have been doing an incredible job, and we're excited about the women's team at Burnley 2 and helping.
They're in the third division right now, and we're working to get them up to the first division. But I think soccer's come a long way, and I think it still has a long way to go with the World Cup and the Olympics coming to America in the next five, six years.
It's really been fun to watch, and I'm excited to be a part of the next phase. What's your hashtag and what's your team slogan? Yeah, so it's UTC, which is up to Clarets.
So we're the Clarets. Clareton blue are our colors, and it's up to Clarets.
Up to Clarets. Okay, I like that.
I like that. Do you feel like you kind of turned your back on American football? It feels a little bit like that.
Benedict Arnold? A little bit. I mean, I think there's still going to be some involvement there.
I don't know in what capacity, but there definitely will be. And I think that there can be a bridge gap.
I think I can help gap the bridge. Okay.
A big bridge. It's got to be a big bridge.
Yeah. Maybe get them to start playing more football, real football? Maybe.
Working on a little bit less of the flopping that is yeah something i'm yeah i'm coming embellishing yeah that's what they call it yeah the embellishments are a bit much but i've noticed in the women's game they don't embellish as much hardly at all it's unbelievable like when i watch my wife's games and i watch the women play they pride themselves on not embellishing like they'll like have like a broken leg and keep playing. Yeah.
There was literally, I believe it was Lynn Williams the other day, was playing with a splint attached to her arm, and she scored the game-winning goal with a splint. Neymar would be in the hospital.
Never. You'd be dead.
Yeah. Just cremate me.
Yeah. Wait, so American football, we are getting, so we saw the draft.
Yep. OTAs are starting.
Yep yep have you had the feeling like oh this is you know my my biological clock here like the calendar year this is right when i should be getting back with the boys i have had the exact opposite which is really good for me which i watched like i'll i watched and i'll scroll through instagram and there'll be clips of guys at training care at otas and they're flying around they're doing drills and i'm literally looking at it like thank god i don't have to go out there and try and tackle that guy or thank god i don't have to try and go out there and be faster than that guy like i don't know how i mentally switch so much in five months but like all of a sudden i feel like i couldn't i couldn't go out there and compete so so during the draft your two teams were very active with each other right, right? So you have to tell us who fleeced who.

The Texans or the Cardinals?

I think if you actually look at it, they kind of both accomplished what they want to accomplish.

No, no, no.

Somebody got fleeced, JJ.

No, no, no.

It was the JJ Watt trade.

What do you – we don't know.

We have no clue who's going to be good or not.

No, but that's the fun.

It's like it's right after the draft.

You get to say, oh, the Texans fleeced him. I think the Texans are basically saying to their fan base hey we've we've gone through a very rough period now we're going for it now we're actually doing it now we're going all in we're trying to win and we're trying to win now we hired amico we got these two draft picks it's going to be great arizona seems to be saying the opposite a little bit they seem to be saying hey we're loading up we're getting a ton of picks we're moving back we're doing these things we're gonna really go after it in the next few years so he's just two different Arizona I mean for today we don't know we don't know in the long term and I also have no idea I don't know if anybody does how the draft value like the trades and everything actually works right yeah uh speaking of draft we we mentioned this on, but we were going through, cause we agree like draft grades are dumb.
You don't know how these guys are going to turn out. Every fan wants to go and see their, you know, an A next to their draft grade.
So you just go, there's a million people grading the draft, go find the A and just read that one. But we had some funny old takes exposed.
I don't know if you know any of these but uh a guy named chris baldwin on the houston culture map wrote an article saying texans will rue the night they took pizza boy jj watt over nick fairly houston lover i do recall okay pizza boy's a good pizza boy you maybe you were pizza boy before dave was pizza boy no he's pizza man he is pizza man he's a man child yeah no i was pizza boy it was a hell of a job yeah i can't lie that's a good job it is it's a great college job yeah you just drive around listening to music and you pay you know you get tips cash how long did you work as a pizza guy pizza boy pizza boy pizza boy no i wasn't a grown man it was literally four or five months it was my transition from central central Michigan to Wisconsin. I went to a local community college, and I delivered pizzas and worked out.
The other ones were Carrington Harrison. I don't know who that is.
Said J.J. Watt has bust written all over him.
Oh, yeah. And then he also included a Facebook post by the Texans saying, with the 11th pick in the 2011 draft, Texans selected Wisconsin defensive end J.J.
Watt, and everyone is just saying, no, boo, not a good decision. Did you read that draft night? Like, did you consume any of that and use it? Yes.
So draft night, it's fascinating. I mean, you get drafted, you're in New York City, obviously do all the media and everything around it.
And then you go back to your hotel room and you can't, I mean, the adrenaline is just flowing through you. You can't sleep.
I mean, your whole life literally just changed. So I sat there in bed and you do, you just scroll through it all.
You kind of read it. And I'm sitting there like jacked up.
I'm excited. I just finished all my media talking all positive about Houston.
And then I'm laying there in bed, just scrolling through my phone. Like, wait a second.
Yeah. Nobody fucking likes me.
Yeah. Why do these people not like me? Yeah yeah this whole city and and it did for me trigger like the okay i'm gonna i'm gonna show these people i'm gonna come in and i'm gonna give them every single reason to root for me and that's kind of my goal is to overturn these fans and make them understand and get them on my side and it kind of became a challenge of mine um and i'm i'm very fortunate that they were open-minded enough to switch and come along with me because Houston is literally like family.
I was just there last week. I'm going back there tomorrow and Houston truly feels like family every time I step in that city.
Can you be an ambassador for Houston real quick? Because every time we go there, and it might be the events that we show up for, it's like the final four, there's a Super Bowl. It takes 40 minutes to get anywhere in Houston.
No, I can't ambassador for the traffic or the humidity those are the two things i will say uh the the chamber of commerce there needs to get to work uh but for food and fans houston is the greatest it is the most underrated food city in possibly the world it is good how do you avoid just getting fat as hell in houston if you don't go that often yeah that's why i mean it's so good and you're bouncing back and back and forth between Houston and Wisconsin when you were playing there. That's got to be tough to stay in shape.
It's almost more impressive now that I think about it. Are you still lifting? Yeah, but not nearly as much.
If I miss a day, I miss a day. It's not a big deal.
It's a way more stress-free way of living my life. So when I pulled up here, I had to go to the bathroom really badly.
And I didn't know we were in front of your building. So I asked the driver, can you just let me out? He let me out.
I went to Walgreens, Duane Reade. They don't have a public bathroom.
I went to a coffee shop. They don't have, New York doesn't do public bathrooms, apparently.
So I went across the street to a Triple Crown Irish pub. Yep.
And I was like, hey, can I just buy, give you five bucks to go to the bathroom? So I just, I got a pint of Guinness, went to the bathroom, came back out. Bar owner, apparently a massive fan, lived in Ireland, is from Ireland.
We happened to play the same golf course in Ireland. And he bought me a pint, so chugged a pint and came up here.
Oh, hell yes. Yeah, it was great.
It was great. Yeah, that's kind of a, in the back of your head, you know when you're slapping a $5 bill, being like, I'm going to use the bathroom.
You know when you come out of the bathroom, you're like, that's J.J. Watt.
It's good. Yeah.
There were like three guys at the bar drinking beers. I mean, it's what, noon on a Tuesday.
I love it. You could have just gone and been like, hey, I'm J.J.
Watt. Can I piss in your bathroom? No.
There was a sign on the door that specifically said bathroom is for paying customers only on this door. And then when you turn right, that door.
So, I was like, all right, I'm not going to be a dick. Yeah, I feel like if you're a three-time defensive player that you can just say, like, hey, can J.J.
Watt use your urinal? Yeah. That should get you in those places.
J.J. Watt needs to piss.
Yes. Yes.
Get out of the way. How's the golf? Wait.
Whoa. One last question about lifting.
So are you squatting for weight still? Yeah. Yeah.
No, squatting is my favorite. favorite act i i enjoy feed the wolf what what are you squatting right now i mean i don't

go above 405 anymore okay yeah yeah i usually yeah yeah i do rap 405 only on like what i'm

feeling good yeah i mean it's yeah you know you did a couple of cash billy knows it's uh you just

hit some casual actually you're only a bencher aren't you no no i squat too squat was my best

lift so on that topic were you really like doing 585 as your work set at your prime in my prime yes in my prime it was uh we did some crazy shit man like my brothers and i'll talk about it my trainer back home yeah we did some crazy like what was your set to weight like were you doing three by four five eight five that was 585 was three to five like we'd get up to fivesives. But the most I ever remember physically putting on the bar, it was, I know it was right around 700.
I don't know if it was 695 or 705. Did you just get instantly hungry after that? It was fucking crazy, man.
My trainer and I talk about all the time. We had some unbelievable days, and some of the shit was just dumb.
That's probably why I ended up in the injury position I did. But also, times where you'd finish a workout you just kind of look around like nobody else on the fucking planet is doing what we just yeah that was the greatest feeling ever but again like that probably also led a little bit to to the injury because i couldn't i couldn't not do that right every part of me was like you have to outdo yourself now nobody else can do that that.
Now you outdo that. And it just led to.

I feel like a lot of players now, they don't lift for heavy weights. So were you like one of like almost a dinosaur sometimes where it's like you're the only guy who's lifting for heavy weights? I do think that players and trainers have gotten a lot smarter about like you don't need like the risk reward for getting up to those levels of weights.
it doesn't make any sense because you have a much greater chance of hurting yourself

than you do of gaining that 0.01% chance of improvement. So there's a lot of guys doing it at just staying at a certain level.
And it's because it is all about being on the field. If you're not on the field, you can't do shit.
Right. And it's something that I talked to my brother a lot about because he grew up with me and we grew up the same style and he wants to go heavy, heavy, heavy.
And I try and tell don't make the same mistakes i made like be smart about it if you're not on the field nobody gives a shit if you can squat 700 pounds yeah you're not playing so have you ever had a big squat workout and then woken up the next day you've got practice or you've got a game and you're like oh shit i shouldn't have done that leg because anybody out there that squatted for the first time in a long time without having done that exercise you know the feeling where you just feel disabled. You can't walk.
Have you ever worked out too close to an important game? No, because if I'm having that feeling that close to a game, that means I haven't squatted in a long time leading up to it. And that would be bad.
But the first squat of the offseason is exactly what you talk about. I mean, you go to sit on the toilet the next day and it's about to get up.
You're like, holy shit. I like that pain, though.
There's something about it that feels like when you just the next day when you're like, oh, my body is so sore. I actually did something.
When's the last time you had it? I've been actually trying to get back in the gym, doing a little lifting, trying to go lower weights because I'm going to break my back. I'm trying to get to the 1,000-pound club.
It's going to take a while. Nice.
So we'll see. So I've had that.
1,000-pound club. I'm trying to remember.
Is that just bench and squat gonna take a while nice so we'll see so i've had a thousand pound club i'm trying to remember is that just bench and squat is that bench squat and deadlift so you could have gotten it what with one one and a half of those lifts easily i mean back in the day yeah yeah yeah it doesn't it doesn't sound as cool thousand pound club when you just said you no that was squatted 785 that was a big high school thing like we got the t-shirts that said like 500 pound, six months. That was a big deal.
In my 20s, I was definitely in the 1,000 pound club. I'm trying to see if I can get back to it.
But I'm trying not to get injured. That's the part.
If you're not available, you're not useful. So you talked about your brother.
There's some rumors out there flying around that you are still entertaining an idea of maybe playing for the Steelers next year. And as our good friend, Jersey Jerry said, he just looks like a Steeler, you know? And you have to admit, like, you've seen yourself in the mirror.
You look like a Steeler. Thank you.
I appreciate that. That's a compliment.
The Steelers fans are literally one of the best fan bases I've ever witnessed in my life. Everywhere I go, hey, I love you, but I'm a huge Steelers fan, so I love your brother.
Hey, come toers hey come play we love pittsburgh it's unbelievable um i mean if the rumors keep burnley in the news and make it a big deal that we're with burnley sure but uh no i will not be playing for the pittsburgh steelers i will be going to a game at heinzfield to watch my brother play it's not heinzfield what is it even now it's uh i love when acrashur yeah we put the ketchup bottles back in yeah yeah i do love when it when a new company takes over it's like no no we're not calling it that no it's yeah what are you trying i mean last time you were on the show you did say that if you got what 10 million dollars to come play in december yes yeah yeah week 17 10 million dollars that's still on the table so you're gonna stay in that? No. Okay.
No. All right.
I think I told you last time. That's the whole reason that I can tell you right now for a fact I'm not coming back.
For me to play this season, I would have to be training right now. And my body, if I went out there to play right now, it would not perform.
I haven't run since the last game of the season. So I could not physically do it.
Yeah uh do you think you're gonna watch like football like we watch football like are you gonna watch every game um no i will i definitely won't watch every game uh i'm gonna watch it much more as a fan so you're a casual we can confidently say you're a casual you know ball but if i get into broadcasting and do something like that then i will certainly watch more um but i'm gonna going to watch my brother's games for sure. I'm going to obviously keep up with Houston and the Cardinals.
And then- Any little Badgers? Whatever's good. Of course.
Yeah. Is that on the table for you to become, do like some broadcasting television work? I would like to at least give it a shot.
I mean, I want to be around the game. I love the game too much.
I want to be around the game. I want to be a part of it.
And I do feel like I have knowledge and experience that can help enhance the viewer's experience and talk about things that they might not see or things that I've learned over the years. Yeah, it sounds like you need some reps.
You need some practice if you're going to be a color guy on TV. You know, a lot of announcers...
Nobody can just step into it like Jake. They do simulated games.
And our good friend, Jake Marsh here, he's made the offer at Tom Brady. I don't know if you'd like to extend the same

offer to J.J. Watt that if you want to get reps in the

booth, Jake will be your

play-by-play guy. You'll watch film

and then you'll just act like you're commentating a game.

Jake, is that fair? He's done a great job with the Water Dogs.

Yeah, let's do it.

Free of charge, whenever you want.

I mean, you're not going to make a lot of great career out of him

doing things for free, Jake. Well, with you, for practice.

Let's do it. I'll take money.
You can pay me for the rights to Jake. We do own the Water Dogs.
It's interesting that you brought that up. I'll trade you 1% in the Water Dogs for 1% of your whatever percent in Burnley.
And I will throw in 1% of Swansea. Oh, well, if you throw in 1% of the Washington team.
The Commanders? Well, so I've's a new right now new zealand breakers too if rg3 gets his one percent then i think i'm going to get one percent of rg's three rg3s so you get like whatever that is one one percent one thousand it's probably still 70 million i think yeah it's a lot of money it's too much though that's that's the thing people don't understand about ownership is uh it's expensive large numbers are large very large that's actually why it's become popular to buy soccer teams because the relegation keeps the cost down yes they're not going to go for these insane nfl prices all protein bars generally taste the same but not one bars one made protein bars are actually delicious with re Reese's and Hershey's. Only one Reese's peanut butter lover's protein bar is made with Reese's peanut butter and only one Hershey's cookies and cream protein bars is made with Hershey's cookie bits while delivering 18 grams of protein and three grams of sugar.
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There's some rumors out there this offseason. I don't know if you've seen them, that the NFL is considering starting a European division with all the teams.
Have you heard anything about that? And is that factoring at all into your newfound interest in Great Britain? I think it would certainly be interesting. I have not heard anything about formalization of that just purely from a logistics standpoint.
It is an absolute nightmare to how you would possibly make that work. I do think that if they had their way, that would absolutely be in the cards.
I just think making that work, not only from a lifestyle living standpoint, from a competition standpoint, how would you possibly make that work? It'd be tough. You'd basically only have to play each other in the European division.
And I think they're saying they're having facilities in New York where they basically come for like a month. So where do their families live? Like where do their kids go to school? Yeah, it sounds like a nightmare, honestly.
Like it's really, really tough. That's the stuff that it absolutely sounds great.
Even like right now, the Germany games, the England games, all that,

they're incredible and they're awesome and we love them.

But also, at the same time, it is extremely difficult on the players,

on your bodies, on everything that comes along with it.

So it's pretty cool.

Germany is far.

Very far.

How's your golf game?

Trash.

What are you shooting right now?

It is getting better, which I will say, which I'm proud of'm proud of but like my best round this year so far is a 96 so that is trash no you're right that is trash but that's my best round so and you're playing a lot i'm not playing as much as i want to see i think it's gonna pick up over the summer you gotta like that's i feel like that's the golf the the the golden like equation is you can't play enough and still be trash. You got to either be like, I'm not going to play.
I don't play. I'm trash.
So I can be like, well, I don't play. That's why I'm trash.
If you start playing a lot and you're still trash, that's tough. I'm on the edge of that zone.
I'm on the edge of that zone. You got to find it.
It's tough, dude. It's tough because I get so pissed because I'm big.
I'm strong. I'm athletic.
I consider myself to be an athlete. None of it fucking helps me out there.
Yeah. Do you better than your brother, though? Yes.
Okay, then you're fine. Yeah.
Do you walk or do you drive? Oh, I drive. Absolutely drive.
I can't walk. Really? I walked to the waist management open when I did the pro-am there.
I walked all 18. It's just, that is a commitment, and it's a lot of walking.
It's tiring. Have you you ever, like if you just need a workout real quick, have you thought about just jumping in? Like we have a Planet Fitness around the corner, just like working out with everybody else, going there, see how fast they hit the lunk alarm on you? I'm probably going to do it at the hotel gym today.
Yeah. No free weights at the hotel.
I know it is, but yeah, I mean, I also don't need to work out like I used to. Like my workouts now are significantly different.
They're a bit in shambles at the moment, honestly. It's a bit of a disaster.
You look like shit. You look terrible, dude.
You look so fat. Oh, last time you were on, you said that you were looking forward to smoking weed for the first time.
It hasn't happened yet, but apparently your fans are very excited. Oh, no way.
Shocking. Wait, they found a way to bully you? No way.
Shocking. By us? Via us? Stu Foner may have dropped something off earlier today.
Yeah. I love Stu.
If this is your first experience with weed, then yeah. No, don't give him that.
You'll die. Stu must have taken a few of those.
When I watch those Islanders things, he's just eating every single second of the whole time. No one eats like Stu.
No. No one eats like Stu.
He just goes crazy. Is Frank in the office today, by the way? I think so.
I have to at least shake his hand. We should get him.
Billy, go grab him. He'll probably come in and be like, he's got to be riding a high.
The devil's one. Yeah.
I'm a Knicks fan. I mean, life is good for Frank.
He bodied me yesterday, so we're in a little. Oh, about what? I tried to get him to come to the stream, and he just was like, he had.
I went up to him, and he was just eating all his McDonald's for lunch, for lunch and i was just like frank i think you should come to the stream and he's just like ate a fry he's like i'm going to the game i was like all right well that negotiation is over yeah uh should we talk about the elephant in the room what is it hank oh yeah we should so last time you were on you told hank just guess 99 guess no i i offered it up it's worse it up. Because you are a J.J.
Watt hater. It's worse than that.
Yeah, you're a J.J. Watt hater.
Yeah, you offered it up. Since then, so it was the Super Bowl, 99 has hit twice.
And Hank still doesn't have the number. So that's two months.
It's hit twice in two months. Twice in two months.
And Hank is the – pretty much he's the only one who's still in the J.J That's not true. And he he's still like, come on.
I make a lot of mistakes. I'm a stupid person.
No, hey, I don't. You know, I say things.
I say things. And in the moment, I was like, this is the right thing to do.
This is what I should and then i get distracted it doesn't happen i just

forget about it and i moved on and then it you know blew up in my face here he is here's frank get the mic up frank frank and jj watt finally how's it going yeah nice to meet you how's it going how are you all right so frank what what do you uh i think jj's a bigger fan of of you than he than you are of him.

You finally meet him.

What do you got to say to him?

Great energy. I think JJ's a bigger fan of you than you are of him.
You finally meet him. What have you got to say to him? Great NFL career.
Thank you, Frank. Going to be in the Hall of Fame.
Okay. I just would have liked to see you in a Dolphin uniform.
Yeah. That would have been nice.
Anything about maybe not staying on the field? Miami's not a bad place to be. Yeah.
How do you feel about the Dolphins this year? I just hoped that they could keep two upright. Yeah.
Because they got so much speed. It's just the offensive line scares the hell out of me.
I mean, you got to be riding high right now with the Devils. I'm so glad they won that game.
Yeah. What is the number one food at the Prudential Center? It's probably the chicken tenders because everything there is bad.

It's bad.

Frank, weren't you saying last year that JJ was looking washed up?

Yeah, that's why you hang it up, right, Frank?

I mean, that's why you stop playing.

Did you say he looks like he's lost a step?

You were saying that.

The Cardinals were so irrelevant last year.

I didn't even think twice about them. Did you ever make a J.J.
Watt song? Did you ever have one? No, I never had a J.J. Watt song.
That's probably for the best. But you always were a J.J.
Watt fan. Yeah, I respect him.
He played for the Texans and the Cardinals. I mean, two teams.
Yeah, who cares? What have you guys won since 1979 or whatever it was? Yeah, but they're not teams I really think twice of. You're not on Frank's radar.
I mean, the Dolphins. It's fine if you were winning seven Super Bowls in the same amount of time.
The Dolphins have been bad for the last 20 years, too. I admit that.
All right, all right. So it wasn't like, ah, boo Texans, boo Texans, or yay Texans.
That's fair. Frank's got a lot of enemies that come All right.
All right. So there's no, so it wasn't like, ah, boo Texans,

boo Texans or,

or yay Texans.

That's fair.

Frank's got a lot of enemies that he,

that come before the Houston Texans.

All right.

Good.

Like Kevin Harlan or Buster Olney or Scott Van Pelt.

Or Scott Van Pelt.

Yeah.

Frank,

I love your content.

Thanks.

I am very thankful for all of your cooking videos,

for all of your devil's videos.

I got,

I filmed two cooking videos over the weekend.

They'll be released in the next couple of weeks. Or I did one.
Can we get a sneak peek? Empanadas. Deep fryer? No, I didn't do deep fryer.
I cooked them in the oven. You made them yourself? You folded the dough over them and everything? Frank, if you had had JJ's career, do you think maybe you would have played through some of those injuries? I mean, those are i mean would you tear a bicep yeah you're you're trying you're trying he's not he's not he respects you yes thank you he respects the hell out of you i appreciate that yeah usually he'll he'll he'll unload on someone frank what do you think about kyler murray i think he should have told his baseball oh i, with the contracts of baseball, I wouldn't blame him.

All right.

Well, Frank, thank you.

I mean, JJ is a huge fan of you.

Thank you, Frank.

I appreciate it.

You are a legend.

Keep it up.

You're a legend.

Yeah.

All right.

Thanks.

All right.

Good to meet you, brother.

Thanks, Frank.

Thank you, Frank.

Appreciate it.

Maybe we get JJ on a raw dog.

Maybe raw dog with JJ.

I love a good dog.

Yeah.

I love a good dog.

Raw dog JJ sometimes.

All right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We should do that on a T-shirt yeah he's got something else nope oh all right do you have your salt packet on you right now of course yeah there it is love it yes best food at the mets game is it really the prime rib sandwich the steak sandwich yeah is that good pat lafrida's yeah yeah it's so good it might be the best thing that could be ever served at any stadium ever yeah wow that's bold for miami marlins what do they have part of my cheesesteak yep good call yep of course that's what you meant to say frank you meant to say that yeah i know frank meant to say that um all right well thanks frank appreciate it thank you frank great meeting of the minds yeah frank the tank he's a legend. Made my day.
Yeah. I mean, I'm happy he didn't, because he Frank.
Appreciate it. Thank you, Frank.
Great meeting of the minds. Yeah.
Frank the Tank.

He's a legend.

Made my day.

Yeah.

I mean, I'm happy he didn't, because he usually will be like.

I mean, you guys were trying.

We were.

He has exploded. Like Blake Griffin came in.

He was like, you kind of stink now.

Yeah.

Right.

And he'll like say like someone will get injured and be like, this guy is like, how

can you not play through this?

And it's like, Frank.

I'm on it.

Yeah.

So he.

Yeah.

He.

We put him through.

That was like a John Taffer stress test. It it was and he passed because usually you just get him going and he'll just be like yeah that one time yeah you had that leg injury you probably should have played what's your what's your favorite frank the tank clip of all time i know you're one i didn't know about until you guys showed it to me it's the ribs it's the ribs the ribs so great um the oh what was he doing the other day oh fuck it was one he was he was just in his kitchen i liked the burger one from the other day the burger one was good ding fries are done oh yeah ding ding fries are done ding fries are done or any i thought he was gonna have a deep fryer involved that was gonna get pretty interesting i can't wait to see him trying to do the whole dough thing because if you you saw his pizza where he tried to make his own pizza, that was he had a hard time with the dough.
The ribs one is just what the fuck? It's hard up. What the fuck? It got too hot outside.
Oh, all right. So before we go back to Hank.
We're good. We covered.
No, no, no. Frank came in right in the middle of it.
I mean, Hank, you... I don't want to be rude and interrupt you, Hank, because I know that you had a lot to say about it.
Are you going to guess 99 now? What is your strategy when you guess? What is the strategy? That's the problem. So that's what I was saying.
I originally like I have ADHD. I'd go back and forth.
I was like, I'm going to do 99. Stick with 99.
And then I just get so... I did it for like at least two two days and then I just get so worried that 17 is going to hit without me picking it so why don't you stay with 17 I do but then sometimes people give me a hot tip with like somebody saying 99 someone some solid logic and I'm like fuck that makes sense I'm going to pick that number but now I'm pretty committed to 17 unless somebody beats you well what about I'm with 17 now yeah I'm on, fuck, that makes sense.
I'm going to pick that number. But now I'm pretty committed to 17.
Unless somebody beats you to 17. Well, what about? I'm with 17 now.
I'm on 17. All right.
So should we do it? Let's just do it. This one will count.
This will be official. So JJ gets to pick two.
Are you not going to do 99 in front of him? He's got to be 17. But 99 in front of JJ.
I'll take 99. If I win, it's like I don't know.
That's a false start, JJ. That right.
Hank, have you ever gotten this? No. Every game fast rusher must get five a year.
This would be great. You're not trying if you don't get five.
Really? Is that something you would say? Like 17's in a terrible, terrible position, but I'm still going to pick it. Maybe in the past there really isn't JJ.
Big Cat has the prime seat. He's still only got it twice.
Hey, can you fix that thing behind you? The numbers, 17. 18.
I'll take 99. That's not illegal.
Six. It's like the hidden ball trick.
Yeah. No, but it's the hidden ball trick, but you're also...
Do you want 17? Or I should be able to the one that says numbers. Do you want 17? No, you can't do this.
I'll take six. You take 17.
Go ahead. I'll take 17.
No, no, no. Take 17.
Take 17. Take 17.
No. It's going to hit.
Take 17. Big Cat, are you officially off 17? No, I'm going to only trade it to Hank.
No. Actually, no one, JJ, you can have 17.
No. You want 17? No, that's hank's number okay well i'm on team mine right now this has come full circle i'm on team hank he's not on team jj yes i am the shit he says about you i'm i'm you know what you know what no you know what i don't have a soccer team that i've ever supported because i don't really like soccer whoa whoa whoa burnley burn wow that's it that's that's burn i've officially declared a soccer you're You're going to hit the number now.
I will give you 17. I don't want it.
Fuck you. PFT, would you like 17? I'll take 17.
Yeah, that's nice. So I have 99? Yeah, you can take 99.
JJ, I'll give you 99. Nope.
No, you can have 99? Nope. Burnley was founded in 1982.
82 is your number? Do you want 17 for me? Can I have it and as well as six? No, no. It's just one okay okay billy's got six 69 so what do

i have now i have 99 you have 99 do you want to trade back i'll give you 17 back for 99 let's just pick two new numbers yeah yeah okay i'll go uh i'll go 76 i'll go 55 uh wow you're Jake?

18.

Max?

20.

What was yours, JJ?

82?

82.

I went 55. 76.
Oh, shit. 99's buried.
Nice. So close.
How do you know? How do you know? Because it's got the line underneath it. No, the line's at the top.
That would have been the greatest move ever. Oh, it would have been incredible.
That would have been the fourth time. Oh, Hank.
Look at this rate. It looks like six.
It's a good sign. We're getting closer.
Six has never hit. Six and 26.
Wow. Oh, yeah.
Six and 26 never hit. Damn.
So that's how bad Hank is. He picked a number that's literally never hit.
It's a good strategy. Odds-wise.
I mean, roulette. Yeah.
He's never going to get it, though. I'm a soccer team now.
I'm excited. Yeah.
There you go. Wait.
So are we in the – we're not in the Premier League? Yeah. You will be.
We're – on Monday, we hoist the championship trophy, and then we start next season in the Premier League. Are you going to be – Is Arsenal in the Premier League Yeah.
Yeah, no, they're second. Yeah, they're very good.
Oh, what was all that drama? They were first place all season long, and then they've choked. Oh, that was what I wanted to ask.
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I like Giannis. I love Giannis.
I love his attitude. I love his mindset.
I agree with his thoughts. I know earlier in my career, I would have been like, no.
Like, I would have said, no, that's, you got to have the mama mentality. You got to have that Jordan, like, killer mentality.
The older I get and the further along I get and the more perspective that I get in life. I absolutely agree with Giannis' comments.
I completely see people on the other side and I understand why somebody would say that's not the winning mentality. But in terms of as an athlete, how you have to mentally live your life to not put yourself into a really, really shitty way, which I can say I i've been in before i love his perspective and i love the way that he went about it damn okay well now you changed my well no you didn't change it was a failure did you fail at the lottery bowl uh no because did you fail every single day yes when you don't hit it yes yeah that's 100% you're a tougher that's why I've won four times.
Yeah. You've won zero times.
That was my first ever attempt. Yeah, that's true.
What was, not to get into like dark stuff, but what was the hardest part? Like, what was the hardest stretch of your career where you're like, maybe this isn't going to go my way. Maybe this isn't, you know, for me.
Well, 2012, 2014, 2015, I got the three defensive player of the years.

And then 2016, I was injured.

2017, I was injured.

2018, I came back, thankfully,

and I actually had a good year.

I was all pro that year.

But then 2019, I got injured.

And it was just the amount of mental stress

and toughness that you put on yourself, knowing that you don't want to let your teammates down, knowing that you don't want to let the fans down, knowing that you're getting paid millions of dollars to play this game. And you're sitting in a training room, not on the field.
Like that weighs so heavily on your mind, because all you want to do is get back out there for everybody involved. And you feel like you're letting everybody down.
And to me, I wasn't able to handle that properly. And that's why the stress just piled up and piled up.
As I got older and I learned and got more perspective on life and what's like truly important, I was able to cope with it better. But that's probably the thing I wish I was better at.
And my wife has helped me a ton with because she's been through a couple major injuries herself. So us going through that together helped a lot.
But I really put myself through the ringer every time I got injured. Like, man, fans are looking at you and your teammates are looking at you and everybody wants you to be out there and you're not.
That shit is very tough. Yeah, I think we do definitely as sports fans, like, don't we don't give enough credit and also are probably too hard on athletes when they get injured because it's not their fault that they're injured and you know yeah we just want to see them out there is there there can't be a worse feeling i think everyone who's played sports or any type of injury that second after the injury when you're like oh fuck it's like i'm injured dude when i broke my leg my leg, because I knew something was wrong.
I heard it all go down. And I tried to stand up and take two steps, and I literally – it had pulverized my knee, and it broke every – it shattered my bone.
And so I tried to take two steps on it, and I knew it was gone. And that's why I was just bawling, crying on TV.
Yeah. Because I knew in that moment it was the third game of the season, and I knew I was out again for the second year in a row and i knew that i had to walk off this field and go i had at least nine months probably a year ahead of me and all you think is i just let everybody down again yeah that's that's the worst feeling ever yeah and nobody understands it and i agree with you like we've normalized injuries right so much to the point where it's like oh he tore his acl he'll be back but you don't think about the nine months that he's going through to have to get back in the mental and emotional stress I think about this a lot with Chase Young you know he's gone through a tough time and every week last year people like why isn't he back this week why isn't he back this week but nobody's really thinking like maybe he's gonna put himself at danger of missing another nine months to a year if he does get back out there and he's thinking the same thing he's like yeah these people drafted me high i'm supposed to be this great player i've had such a good career i want to be out there like there's no he wants to be out there too yeah it's it's they actually should ban the the term minor surgery because there is no minor surgery like if you're going into someone's body that's surgery like clean it up because that will always happen yeah where they'll be like oh he's got minor knee surgery he'll be back in four weeks And you're sitting there like, why isn't he back right now? It's surgery.
Just clean it up. Because that will always happen.
Yeah, where they'll be like, oh, he's got minor knee surgery. He'll be back in four weeks.
And you're sitting there like, why isn't he back right now? It's minor surgery. Yeah, it's crazy.
Yeah. But I understand it from the other side.
I mean, you sit there as a fan and you're like, this guy's getting paid millions of dollars. I don't care if he's hurt, not hurt.
He needs to be out there. I see the juxtaposition, and it's very difficult to do.
And I see why if a guy gets hurt multiple times, you start to be like, get him out of here i don't want him but at the end of the day the true if you truly break it all down that is still a human being that has to live with whatever's going on every single day for the rest of their life yeah it's like lamar at the end of this year when he was he was hurt going into the playoffs he had a torn pcl and people like i think shefter was tweeting out like well usually you would expect a player to be back by it's been four weeks since he tours PCL and it's like well wait a second not only does Lamar have a PCL injury which is a very serious knee injury but also he's standing on the doorstep of getting paid a shitload of guaranteed money and if he does some if something catastrophic happens to him when he's playing injured he's changing his entire family's future from that point on. It's like, have a little bit of humanity and understand like, yeah, you want, you want to be able to be like, yeah, go fucking Ravens.
Let's go. You know, like you want to be able to cheer for him as a guy, but also like if you were in his shoes, I guarantee you would do the exact same thing that he's doing.
Yeah. I mean, there's, there's no doubt about that, that if you, if you put yourself in somebody else's shoes and actually think about what the, what it means to your family and your life, like it, it changes everything.
Yeah, fans are assholes. We're assholes.
When you were carted off the field, did you have the presence of mind to be like, got to give that thumbs up? I walked off, so I was proud of that. You probably injured yourself more.
Absolutely. So I had people around both arms, and I walked off just sobbing, crying.
But no, I didn't give a thumbs up there i just went but that was they followed the ambulance to the hospital with a helicopter and i was like it was like raw yeah yeah but they knew in the x-ray room like i i got off the field they do an x-ray right there in the stadium and the doctor told my wife as soon as he got the x-ray back he's like like, I'm not sure he's going to play again. Jesus.
And then thankfully, like it all. That should be illegal.
The doctor should always just give the best case scenario. Because I mean, she told me, obviously.
And I heard that. And I was like, that's what really starts to fuck with you.
Because you start to think about things and worry about things that might not even happen. And obviously didn't happen.
The doctor's like was a racehorse they would have just but they really should just doctors should always just give like the one percent like yeah he actually might be okay might have just been a sprain he started to do that later because he's been my doctor my whole i love the guy to death but then i started to come back from injuries and which sadly nobody should ever be in this spot but with my pec when i came back from eight weeks that, he started to be like, okay, we're going to give you the optimistic scenarios because you're actually doing it. Right.
And the pec stuff is always – that's another injury where it's like, why do you even need a pec? Like, get back out there. There's some guys that do it without it.
It's crazy. Like, DBs and stuff.
Like, there's some DBs that will tear their pec and go out there and play the rest of the season because, I don't know, it's dude that's insane yeah yeah seems like the most painful injury or just like i think it's just it immobilizes your arm because you use your pec to to do everything yeah right that's all my pec injury i did not know what happened so i tore my pec on one play josh jacobs knee hit me right in the bicep threw my pec back pec torn i didn't know it zero pain literally clean off the bone zero pain i went to line up for the next and put my hand in the ground, and I couldn't lift it to put it in the ground. So I stood up and in two-point stance for the next play, I went to run and my arm wouldn't move.
And then I came off to the side. I looked at the doctor, and he goes, yeah, your peck's literally gone.
Oh, man. But you played on it.
Just for one play. But still counts.
Yeah. Still counts.
I would be sitting on the field being like, just shoot me. Just end it.
I'd like to see a hockey player do that. Yeah.
All right. Well, JJ Watt, thank you as always, man.
We love having you on the show. Hank is a Burnley fan now.
Burnley fan. I think I might be, I might have like a little, Burnley might be like my gooma.
I'll get some gear in here. You decide.
Yeah. That's really what it comes to.
It's like if we get sent free shit, then we will cheer for that team. A thousand percent.
Yeah. Yeah, we're in.
I'm excited. Yeah.
Yeah, we'll get you some gear. Do you want a loser like Hank on your – he can't get the lottery ball.
So, Hank, we're turning Hank's story around. Burnley's going up to the Premier League.
We're now – Burnley's on its way up. Hank's on its way up.
Everything's looking up. Hank can't get any more down.
Yeah. Hank's basically in the championship division of life right now.
I've been relegated. You want to do one more? It's okay.
You want to do one more? Yeah. Yeah.
Let's do one more to count, and this will be the end. This might be the first time since opening day we've had three official going.
Number 17. Yeah.
You're such a dick. Great crap.
18. I'll take 99.
Six. Okay.
You want to trade? Sure. Okay.
I'll take 99.

Okay, you want to trade?

Sure.

Okay, I'll take 99.

You take 17.

This time.

26.

82.

82 for JJ.

18 for Jake.

20 for Max.

69 for Billy.

What do you have, Hank?

Six.

Man.

What if 17 hits?

I have 17. i have 17 i have 99 one wow you're hovering you're heat seeking it single digits yeah you're around it back to back single digits you're right there this is close you've ever been which is it's good vibes still pathetic vibes no we're on the uptrend yeah i've been so cool though if its first win was on one oh imagine how cool that would have been picked one we're about to lift in the studio and we got barbell like if you want to what are you going to do i was going to do uppers like oh you you legitimately lifting here it's not like yeah no yeah no give me your workout what are you to do like bench, then pull-ups, then like maybe biceps.
You got to sell it a little bit more. Yeah, I know.
I was waiting like three by five. You should have said quad squad.
How many weights do you got in here? We got up to 295. Yeah, not enough.
Not enough. Not enough.
Barbello. What's your 225 reps at? Probably around 10 Alright What about you?

PFT I think you could beat him

I'm about 3 I think

I haven't really lifted that much recently

225 if I was to do it right now

Yeah

I could probably right now today get like 27

Alright get out of here

Are you with a torn pec?

You are a tri-hard

I know but did you bench ever after tearing your pec?

I bench all the time.

Yeah, come on.

He lifts.

Do you lift, bro?

It's a man.

A lot of guys tear their pec and they're like, no more bench.

Not JJ.

Come on, man.

Built different.

Not either.

All right.

Thank you, JJ.

Thanks, guys.

Appreciate it.

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Okay, let's wrap up the show. Hank getting the lottery ball on Friday.
It actually devastated me. I'm not going to lie.
On Thursday when we taped it, I don't think I've been in a bigger funk in a long, long time. Same.
It ruined me. Keep in mind, we did two drawings during the J.J.
Watt interview, and a lot of that interview was talking about Hank not getting it. Oh, that's a good point.
Oh, this is our third drawing for the show, technically. Fuck.
Yeah. Damn.
Was Hank even there? I was. I'm a Burnley fan.
It was number nine and number one. Yeah.
The two drawings. So, Hank, you ruined this interview.
Way to go, Hank. Yeah, you ruined the interview.
So, I love the lottery ball. I do think it's a very fun thing that people can play along with at home at the end of shows.
So, here's the plan. This lottery ball machine is not going to make it to Chicago.
What we're going to do, we're going to keep going until we leave and then we're going to sell it. And it probably will go for a good amount of money.
So whoever wants it, they get it exactly as is. They get this lottery ball machine.
And what I want to do is for any AWLs who do 3D printing or work in some type of factory I don't know about, I want to build the biggest fucking lottery ball machine ever. And maybe not the biggest ever, but massive lottery ball machine that we can then open the new Chicago office with.
And then it's all bets are off. Everyone's back to square one.
And everyone's got zero. And we just see.
We still do one through 100. Yeah.
And we just see who ends up being the guy who can't get it for an extended period of time so it'd be a totally we will retire this machine and all its records so everyone goes back to zero and we go from there this the last couple years have just been the preseason right for the lottery ball yeah so it really wasn't even that big of a deal that hank didn't get the lottery ball ever for a really long time and maybe we'll figure out uh like real stakes or something that we can have attached to it uh where like whenever you get it you get something to to kind of make it even bigger because i do think it's a very fun part of the show that people love so we agree and we just need to we need to pivot a new history yeah and shout out to everyone that reached out it was no shout no overwhelming a lot of people congratulated me uh it was great just knowing you congratulated hank you're a fucking loser the guy has it a loser i'm a loser yeah we know that yeah i also clicked the lottery ball right after hank got it oh yeah oh my god oh my god i forgot about this We were sitting in the room after. And it was me, PFT, and Max.
And Max, and he doesn't do this. No one does this.
No one just walks over there and clicks the button. Max.
Oh, he just, my headphones went out. Yes, I did mine.
He just slammed on the table. No joke.
Wait. Vindication.
Stop fucking hitting the table. I really can't.
I shouldn't sit here. I shouldn't sit here.
i can't hear myself i'm italian i speak with my hands there we go i just hit it back stop don't hit the table jake that's jake and i like the whole show with our feet we like kick it in and out also just want to apologize to everyone who had to deal i i understand a lot of people were telling me they shut off the show early because of what hank was doing to the table on friday uh apologies to them yeah i gotta stop sitting here i can't help myself i'm italian i speak with my uh you're just hitting the table but yeah sorry to everyone who had to deal with hank hitting the table over and over it was very rude of him yeah me too my bad i got you next time uh max just walked over for no reason at all clicked the lottery ball machine and 20 came up which is a number he picks every single time yeah and that's when i knew the were winning in seven oh you are such a loser i how i do want to know i do want to know i wanted to text a group text and I refrained because I didn't want it to bite my face. But I wanted to text yesterday and this morning so much to ask Max how much he thought about me winning the lottery ball and how that was going to affect the game today.
Did you at all? And it technically affected both game six and seven. He got it on thursday game six i thought i was thinking about it all day i honestly didn't really think about it at all this weekend for game seven but i did think about it a bunch for game six whatever because the thing is if they had lost this game six or game seven it probably would have negated the win there were there were some people who said i was being mean to to Hank on Friday.
I will fully admit I was, and it was because of the lottery ball. Like, I was that devastated.
I hated him so much that it actually made me angry at him. Like, I was very angry at him right after he got it for the rest of, like, the next 24 hours.
I muted him on Twitter. I muted him on Twitter.
I had to. I don't even tweet i you were tweeting about the lottery ball it's like i don't i can't have this in my head right now i muted i unmuted you today but i had to i actually unmuted you in the first fucking tweet i saw was you just tweeting out a picture of the celtics court with the number six i was like fuck that it's disgusting like why it's honestly embarrassing that you're celebrating this much it really is we've all gotten it so many times and you you get it one time and you act like you're you know god's gift to lottery balls yeah i just felt you know it's been i've lost a lot on the show experienced a lot of l's shut up all right so uh whoever whoever whoever can uh build us a new lottery ball machine, email Jake.

We'll go through them.

What's your email?

PMT intern at BarstoolSports.com.

Okay.

So and then we'll talk about I have a vision for it.

So I'll explain my vision for whoever can actually send us like how you could accomplish this.

Not just, hey, I want to build it. I want it to be basically the lottery, like every time, like a big fucking stick that we can like pick up the balls and shit.
How sick would that be? Okay. So.
Numbers, I guess memes. Memes, have you ever gotten this? No.
Oh. Memes, you suck at the lot.
Memes. 17.
18. 16.
I'll go 68. 55.
21. I'm rooting for you, Max.
I don't even want it. You don't want it? If Max gets it, he can shave his soul patch.
Now I want it.

That might make it worse.

44.

Ah, damn.

44 is just hot.

Memes, you're never going to get it.

You're never going to get it, memes.

Love you guys.

Fuck.

Cassowaries are terrible mothers in hoes.

What? They're big birds hoes cassowaries what do you mean hoes they're quite promiscuous

oh they are hoes they're not terrible hoes

talking away i don't know what i'm to say I'll say it anyway Today is another day To find you shying away I'll be coming for your love again Take on me

Take me on

I'll be gone

In a day or two So needless to say I'm odds and ends But that's me I'm stumbling away Slowly learning that life is okay And say after me It's no better to be safe than sorry And take on me Take me home.

I'll be gone in a tale tomb. guitar solo I know things that you say Is it liable Just to play my worries away You're all the things I've got to remember You're shying away I'll be coming for you anyway Take on me Take me on I'll be gone in a day or two

I'll be gone in a day or two. In a day or two.
Thank you so much. Thank you so much.

Thank you, guys.

Thank you.

Thank you very much.

Wonderful.