
NFL Draft With Peter Schrager, Dillon Brooks Sucks At Being A Villain, Who's Back And More
Dillon Brooks touched Lebron's penis and he sucks at being a villian (00:00:00-00:10:21). We talk all NBA playoffs, Knicks basketball being back, Warriors survive late, and the Sixers and Celtics is going to happen (00:10:21-00:50:05). Hockey playoffs have been incredible all weekend (00:50:05-00:58:25). Who's back of the week including our blue checkmarks and the big fight saturday night (00:58:25-01:22:04). Peter Schrager joins the show to talk NFL Draft, what he's hearing from different teams, how far could some of the QB's fall and what happened with the Lions suspensions (01:22:04-02:06:14). We finish with Max's insane sleep walking story and the lottery ball machine (02:06:14-02:17:56).
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Right in the penis. Right in the penis.
Yeah, but he's a villain. He got over penalized because he's a villain now, according to Dylan Brooks.
He just kind of like made himself a villain. He just said, you know what? I feel like becoming a villain this postseason.
so he's a villain now according to Dylan Brooks he just kind of like made himself a villain he just said you know what I feel like becoming a villain this postseason so he's kind of following his uh he's called his shot and then he's following up on it and uh yeah he went he went right at him that seemed like that was definitely intentional right yeah it was you can't touch another man's penis I just like calling it penis I use that as a caption everyone's like what the fuck why do you it is one of those things that you know when you get a when someone hits someone in the dick you say dick but when you say penis it sounds like something way more egregious like he touched lebron james's penis he did he did it was sauce as hell and uh actually you could make the argument that since dylan brooks doesn't think that lebron james is a man he didn't know that he was going to hit him in the penis. He was trying to hit him in the labia.
Yes. But he missed and made contact with his dick.
So Dylan Brooks, you just said it, but I'll say it even with more of my chest. Dylan Brooks is an all-time fraud.
He is a fraud. He's a fake tough guy.
His quote afterwards, so he did two things. One, well, he did three things.
He hit LeBron Jamesames in the penis then he got ejected and afterwards said he didn't want to talk to the media then in shoot around on sunday he said uh the media make is making me a villain the fans making me a villain that just creates another persona on me talking about his flagrant to a call in game three,
dude,
you did all of this.
You decided that you wanted to be a villain.
You have been wearing like,
you know,
you,
you dress as like stone cold,
Steve Austin,
one game,
you know,
in the regular season,
you are an agitator.
You told LeBron James,
he's old.
You said,
you don't respect him until he puts 40 on him.
Draymond green,
whatever you want to say about him, at least backs up everything he says. Pat Beverly backs up what he has to say.
Dylan Brooks, basically the first sign of things like, oh, maybe people don't like me. He folded and was like, it's all your guys' fault.
It's none of my fault. Fuck that.
You are the reason why we think you're a villain, which I like, by the way, because I like sports having villains. But you have to at least own up to the fact that not only did you touch LeBron James in the penis, but you also shot your team out.
They scored nine points in the first quarter. Dylan Brooks went three for 13 in 19 minutes of game time.
He's not a shooter. And he was like, I'm going to try to win this game myself.
Dylan Brooks, like, say, dude, just fucking stand up for yourself and be like, yeah, I touch his penis. And next game, I'm going to make sure he scores less than 20 or something like that.
Lean into it. You are a complete fraud when it comes to this stuff.
Next time, touch his penis more than once. Yeah.
Keep touching it until it gets hard. That's how I'll know that you're about that life.
Yeahoks be a man about it dylan brooks he's you're right he's tried too hard to become a villain and now he's he's running away from the villain reputation because it's penalizing him if you're a real villain like draymond you get penalized for being a villain and you love it you love that shit right he doesn't he's not you can't you can't also you can't just say like i'm a villain now that's too it's You have to demonstrate a body of work to become a villain, and he hasn't done that yet. He's not built up the rap sheet necessary to become a true villain.
Like, if Jake said that he was a villain because he repeatedly beats Hank at golf over and over and over again, then I'll buy that. But you can't just say it, like, one time beat him one time at golf.
Right. Right.
Right. Right.
Exactly. Right.
So you admit Jake beats you over and over. Yeah.
Has he ever touched his penis? No. Okay.
You had to pause there for a second. Wait.
Well, I touched his penis last year. Oh, yeah, you did.
You touched his penis. That hurt.
Yeah, you touched his penis. Oh, my God.
Yeah., Dylan Brooks, I mean, the Grizzlies, I didn't think they had a shot in that game just because you poked the bear. You poked LeBron James.
But then coming out and scoring nine points in the first quarter, was that the lowest? That was the lowest in a playoff game, right? Nine points in the first quarter. We talked about it a couple weeks ago, the biggest, like, margins and how they're not all created equally.
35 35 to 9 was game over that was the largest margin I've ever seen on a basketball court after the first quarter and I LeBron he didn't put up 40 so I guess like that's what Dylan Brooks should have said he'd been like I'll talk to the media okay let me see did LeBron put 40 no okay still don't respect him do that well because because Dylan got kicked out of the game. So then LeBron's like, I don't need to put 40 on him anymore.
This guy's already out of here. He wasn't scoring 40 anyway.
He was at like maybe 18 points when it happened. But he still could have.
He could have. He could have.
But still, like lean into it and say that LeBron didn't score 40. And so, yeah, they don't respect him have you heard this one big cat have you heard about this one he said dylan brooks said that he wanted to play cleveland or miami lebron but he ended up playing bangkok lebron oh nice you heard about that one that's a great one celtic scored seven points uh in the first quarter oh you you just looked it up because it triggered something in your memory't it? Yeah.
When was that? Isaiah Thomas era against the Hawks. Oh, Jesus Christ.
Seven is in a first quarter? In a first quarter. Because that's the thing is if it happens in the third quarter, it doesn't matter because you're looking at the score.
It's like, oh, they have 48 points or something. But in the first quarter, when it just sits out there, it's brutal.
Yeah. If it happens in the third quarter, it's like, well, they went on a huge run in the third.
Yeah. But if it happens at the start of the game, it's like, well, this game's over already.
Either way, that game, Lakers, we knew like Anthony Davis played pissed off because he got embarrassed in game two. And then we had John Morant just go absolutely nuclear in the fourth quarter.
And I was sitting there being like, yeah, maybe if Dylan Brooks didn't shoot 13 times in 19 minutes and your best player, you know, had the ball a little bit more, the Grizzlies might've been in this game because he was sensational. I think he ended up with like 45.
He scored like 20 in the fourth, I think. So it was, I, this series is fun though.
I hope that Dylan Brooks stops being a pussy and starts just being a villain again and not being like, woe is me. He actually, he reversed psyched out himself by telling LeBron, like, you got to give, he's got to give me 40.
He made himself try to go out there and give LeBron 40. Right.
That's the mindset that he was in, which is, that's how you know he's not about that life, really. Yes.
And shout out, by the way, the court crew. There's a crypto now.
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The fact that Clippers and the Lakers had a home game on the same day blew my mind. In a playoffs.
I think they might do it regular season, but playoffs is a lot of stakes. What if you put one of the floorboards in wrong? LeBron gets hurt.
Can't have that stuff. We're watching the LA Kings yeah we're watching yeah they had four playoff games in like 48 hours do we get a sick ass time lapse video of the floor becoming ice it was awesome it was you know that's my that's my favorite part of the postseason is when they do those time lapses it's incredible no we with the the sick sick uh time lapse was the clippers going to the lakers as quickly as possible.
Because it was literally like three hours in between both games. I've never even heard of that time lapse.
Yeah, it was awesome. When I realized the Clippers and Lakers were both playing home games on the same day, I was like, just give me the time lapse.
Let's just go to the time lapse. And it delivered.
It absolutely delivered. Okay, let's talk some other games.
We should talk about Max, your Sixers, take care of business, clean sweep of the nets. Should we do the hurt or injured by Morgan & Morgan, America's number one law firm? Is Joel Embiid hurt or injured? He's hurt.
It's just hurt. You said he wasn't, though.
No. I mean, if I'm choosing between hurt or injured, I'm going with hurt.
Hurt. Okay, PFT, what do you think? I think he's always hurt, so this means because he's extra hurt, he's injured now.
Aren't the playoffs about playing hurt? He would have played if it wasn't a meaningless game. Have you guys, have the Sixers thought about maybe, like,
telling Joel Embiid the season starts, like, January 1st?
Because it does feel like every year we get to exactly this point in the calendar and he gets hurt.
Yeah, I mean, he was pretty much healthy all year.
Oh, you got the MVP.
Timing is unfortunate.
Yeah, he got the MVP.
Yeah, timing is unfortunate, but we'll have a week to get ready for the next series could be the Hawks who knows and he'll be ready to go I know Doc's giving the whole 50-50 that he's going to play he's not going to play he's going to fucking play well if he doesn't play B-Ball Paul was awesome double double go buy the shirts by the way we're actually collabing with B-Ball Paul so we have shirts in the Barstool store with B-Ball Paul was awesome. Double-double.
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So we have shirts in the Barstool store with B-Ball Paul. Other things from this game was Spencer Dinwiddie finishes the season 0-4 after being called Spencer Dinwiddie.
He may never win a game again, PFT. Yeah, that's one of those where if if you watch if i watch spencer dinwiddie play i'm like this guy's pretty good he he's he he uh takes a lot of shots and he's the focal point of that offense at times but if you actually play with him you realize like this dude we cannot win with this guy yeah he's spencer din shitty i also have a quote for you that I'd love for you to take a guess who said, the quote is, watching my team get swept hurt, and I don't ever want to feel that way again.
Hmm. I'm going to say, watching my team get swept hurt, and I don't want to ever feel that way again i am going to go with rob thompson okay it was ben simmons and he said it and i fucked i was thinking baseball so i went to the phillies yes yes uh it was ben simmons he said it in 2020 and since that quote he's watched his team get swept two out of the last three years.
Well, he only watched two of the sweeps this time because he didn't go on the road and watch the games in Philadelphia. Yeah.
Well, no, but he saw this one. Yeah, live because the sweep technically happened in front of him.
Yeah, yeah, the last game did. I'm curious, Max, were you close enough to throw something ben simmons um no i it's just it's the perfect quote because literally he was like yeah i don't like trying to pump himself up like i don't ever want to be back here and now he's watched two teams in back to back years of his get swept you know what a good way for him to prevent that would be is if you played yeah maybe they could have It's a pretty simple fix.
They probably could have used it. Oh, you don't think you would have had a difference? He sucks.
He wasn't even getting time when he was healthy. Who is your favorite player on the Sixers right now? Is it Tyrese Maxey? Yeah.
Easy. Yeah.
He's been awesome. He's my guy.
I mean, he's also so fun and such a personable guy. And he's so good.
He's so fast. He's so strong.
He's so strong. What else? His hair smells good.
I bet it does. He's the best.
Yeah. Great smile.
Great smile. Great smile.
Great smile. Yeah, so the Nets are done.
Thank God that we can just get rid of them. There's nothing really to say about the Nets.
I even know, like, how many Nets fans right now are just watching the Knicks and being like, fuck. I really should have just, I should have just been a Knicks fan.
Yeah, I mean, the only thing that the Nets have to root for now is like, just hoping maybe KD gets the Suns lose the first series somehow. Yeah.
Some way. And the Knicks somehow like blow a 3-1 lead to cleveland yeah they need a double 3-1 lead loan right now um all right so the knicks calves let's talk about i went to the game on friday night the mecca was electric uh i got on side talk pft the uh the you know the the guys who interview people after games the bing bong and everything.
I don't know if they'll ever put my clip in.
I just hushed the whole entire crowd.
And then I was like, I don't give a fuck about the Knicks,
but I just hit my nuclear warhead missile play.
And then everyone lost it.
Because I think it was a great setting
because you could say literally anything
and everyone will go crazy.
Like, you could just be like, fuck the Pope. And everyone would everyone be like oh shit that was awesome it was it was a great audience people in new york lose their mind over the knicks which i love i i hope they i hope they keep going through the playoffs because i just want to spend time uh i'll take the traffic jams outside msg it's just good to see the city pretend to be happy about something for a little bit.
I actually bet you like the,
the mayor approval rating goes up when the Knicks are winning in the
playoffs.
Like every,
it would have fucking loved to Blasio.
That's,
that's the problem with the Blasio.
Everyone hated him,
but maybe if the teams won occasionally,
they would be like,
you know,
this guy's a pretty fucking good mayor.
Things are going pretty good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was,
I,
this series is like,
I don't understand the calves. They can't rebound, even though they have Evan Mobley and Jared Allen and the Knicks, like Julius Randall has just been garbage.
And the Knicks still looks so much better than them, which if you're a Knicks fan, you're probably saying yourself, if Julius Randall isn't, I think he's, he scored seven points today. He even watching him on on Friday night he loves doing the spin move and then missing threes that's like his two favorite things to do and the Knicks are winning without him playing well and it's all thanks to Jalen Brunson and Josh Hart who I Josh Hart was awesome today I saw a video and Josh Hart has to play well because Josh Hart went on JJ Reddick and Tommy Alter's podcast and then they did a shoot around after JJ Reddick's eight-year-old son beat Josh Hart in a three-point contest that rocks yeah so he's gotta how's that possible it was crazy I don't got wet I was nice I fully believe that JJ Reddick's son could be yeah I mean if anyone's son could be that good but eight years old i feel like nba players don't miss if there's no defense i i was i watched the video it wasn't they weren't nba threes so maybe he could be like oh i don't but it was crazy an eight-year-old really playing was he playing with a regulation ball yeah regulation ball he said something he mumbled something about how he had just played the day before and had to guard Jamal Murray.
But it's like, dude, he's eight. He's eight years old.
That rocks. That rocks so hard.
So full disclosure, I didn't get a chance to watch this game on Friday, dealing with other stuff. Same thing with the most recent game.
But I did watch an electric highlight of the game, which was Donovan Mitchell missing another three-pointer. Yeah.
I think he went like, what, 0 for 9 at one point. He just kept shooting and he kept missing.
And the crowd just kept cheering louder and louder with every single miss that he had. He had.
Yeah. He had an air ball on Friday night, like a true old-fashioned air ball.
Like, just missed the whole, like, not like a, like maybe, Oh, maybe there was someone close that maybe like tipped it. It was just miss the whole fucking thing.
There's something about a crowd that I absolutely love when they cheer harder for their opponent's demise than they do for their own victories at times. And it, it, it felt like the crowd was catching fire every time he missed a shot.
So that, that was awesome. I'd also like to put my hand up because i i made a lot of fun of the new york knicks and their fans when they were going all in on brunson and they were acting like brunson was about to be their their savior this offseason because they didn't hit on like the two first guys that they were going after right when free agency started and i was like oh you guys are settling on brunson right now uh yeah like that guy's going to get you guys some playoff wins i was wrong hand up man enough to admit it i was very wrong.
I'd like, oh, you guys are settling on Brunson right now. Yeah, like that guy's going to get you guys some playoff wins.
I was wrong. Hand up.
Man enough to admit it. I was very wrong.
I'd like to apologize to the entire city of New York. Well, that's the funniest part about them going after Donovan Mitchell is that's who they wanted, too.
They wanted Donovan Mitchell. He's from New York.
And they were like, yeah, Donovan Mitchell. Jalen Brunson is incredible.
I love, like, his game is just so old school and every, every 10, 12 footer is like a layup for him. And also we should say RJ Barrett, who has been pretty much maligned, I'd say, cause he signed a big deal and has not lived up to it has like played very well in this series.
So the Knicks they're fun. That crowd was one of like the top crowds i've i've been a part of like it was loud from the first tip all the way through the game just very into the game it was it was good to see the knicks like good again yeah i've been to a few games at msg i don't think i've been to a nick game there i've been to a bunch of rangers games there.
But every time they do the celebrity camera in the audience, every time I've been there, Christopher Maloney from Law & Order, that's like the first guy that they show. And the pop that guy gets is fucking intense.
Yeah, big time. I'm trying to think who.
It was Justin Tuck. Fat Joe did a concert at halftime.
That ruled. I'm trying to think who else was there.
Chris Christie's always mowing around there clogging up the aisles yeah i feel like the sunday the sunday afternoon game brings out all the stars because they like ben stiller was there today uh there was a bunch of people yeah davidson yeah pete davidson they they they pack it it was it was an awesome crowd like i have to admit it was a fucking i got there like 20 minutes early, and there was a couple dudes. I was doing the game time ad read.
There were these two dudes who looked like they had been sitting there for five hours just drinking beers, $13 beers, just getting ready. One of them came over to ask for a picture, and he almost fell down all the steps.
this was before the game and i was like good job
guys like this is yeah this is what playoff basketball should be about no it's such a to get drunk on 15 beers yes yes uh okay other series i the clipper's sons all i have is that russell will russell westbrook is the real winner he's like i can't believe that we're at a point where we're watching a playoff series and we're saying,
like, could you imagine how bad the Clippers would be if they didn't have Russell Westbrook? He's just trying so hard and actually playing well while Kawhi and Paul George sit on the bench and the Clippers dream team is there. They're in the running for like biggest bust of a dream pairing ever right yeah i mean just considering that neither one has really played together like they haven't played together as a unit especially in the postseason so um yeah i mean i just i i felt like it was a good team that they were assembling because like kawaii how can you miss with kawaii he's proven that he can he can like be a superstar in the playoffs he's played on some bad teams that he was like still motivated to play on at times before his his mysterious quad injury on the Spurs it felt like this was a good move for the Clippers but yeah it's got to be it's got to be super super disappointing now he's probably going to be out I it wouldn't surprise me if he was out for the rest of the series if you if he missed in that game yeah i mean it's just one more game most likely and it's also that but you do have a good excuse though at the same time if you're a clippers fan you have you have the injured excuse you have the kawaii got injured excuse which is always it's good to have and that's what really clippers fans have been great at having uh throughout their long story playoff history um but it's it's always good to be able to be like if kawaii had played we win that series yeah i mushed him when i said that he was a face of loy uh load management and then hasn't played since i also there's a certain some franchises are just cursed like the vikings are cursed right there's there's different i mean the Cubs were cursed for a hundred years right the Clippers are cursed because if you told the Clippers fan that we'd be in the year 2023 and you would have had Kawhi Leonard and Paul George sign with your team and Chris Paul who's 38 years old is hitting big shots in the fourth quarter to like put another in the fourth quarter to end your team and end your season.
They'd be like, how'd this happen?
You know what I mean?
Chris Paul, best clipper of all time probably.
I don't know.
I don't know the whole history of the clippers.
Blake and Chris Paul.
Blake is my vote.
Baron Davis.
Baron Davis.
And he did it a couple years ago or whatever it was.
Yeah, two years ago when Paul George almost took him to the finals and the in the Suns beat him then like this is just as tortured as torture gets where you have the guy who played for your team for so many years. So many like agonizing playoff losses.
Now he's on the other side and you're still doing the same thing. You're just losing in agonizing fashion.
And again, Chris Paul looks fantastic and it would be an utter disappointment if he didn't win a championship this year like complete complete career defining disappointment if he didn't at least get but he's got to get to the finals and he's got to play all the games in the finals and if he does not win i'd say like write him off he's a he's a yeah but guy yeah at that point and kd's doing exactly what I would do, by the way, he's saying, I wish Kawhi was playing. I really do.
Cause it would be so much more fun if I was getting to compete against their best players. I wish so bad that he was out.
I would do that all day. If I was playing against a team that was injury riddled, I'd just be like, Oh man, this sucks.
It doesn't even feel like I'm winning. I'm sorry guys.
Yeah. Yeah.
No, it's the,'s the it it drives me nuts what guys say but i absolutely would say the same thing like man 100 100 really really wish that also um did you see the news about kawai's sister yeah that was kind of crazy it's kind of crazy i just want to say like they should not be so kawai's sister got arrested for murder no she got uh she she got convicted of murder convicted of murder excuse me got convicted of murder and they're using kawaii leonard's face as the picture in every news article about his sister getting convicted of murder i think that should be against the law yeah yeah they're they're basically being like they're not even saying her name they're just saying sister of kawai of Kawhi Leonard convicted of murder for beating up an old lady in a casino in 2019. Yeah.
Crazy. It's a crazy story, but they should not have Kawhi's face as the headline of that.
I'm standing up for my man Kawhi there. I agree.
I agree. Okay.
Heat box. All I had for this one was this is just the curse series.
Everyone's hurt. Jimmy Butler got hurt.
Victor Oladipo, I think tore his knee again, which was terrible. He's out for forever.
You could tell, too. Everyone, all the players and everyone was just towel, you know, shaking up because this guy fought so hard to come back, and now he looks like he's back to square one.
Giannis obviously hasn't played since game one. Duncan Robinson.
What? Hero two. Hero.
Yeah, bro. Yeah, like every – I actually don't know what's going – like, how is this happening? This entire series is cursed.
Yeah, it's been crazy to watch. The torn patella, that's – in terms of reactions from guys that are on the court or on the field when an injury happens, I'd say that the torn patella is always the worst.
People just, like, cover their heads like you said. They start puking.
The guy starts, like, screaming. I remember when Victor Cruz tore his.
Yep. That was a bad scene.
That's probably the worst one. Yeah.
It's bad. And then the one positive of this series is our guy Duncan Robinson is back.
He's out of Spoh's doghouse. He scored 20 points.
He went five for six from three. It's good because he's getting shit on.
We have his back. We should cash it.
I've been trashing him all season. Yeah.
Look, get the platform. He's taking advantage.
Yeah. Like put him on the trash.
Even for being a podcaster. No, they're trashing him for just like, like bad contract.
Oh, that's not, I thought, yeah, they're trashing his podcast for platforming. Duncan Robinson.
Okay. You're paying him this and he's not doing anything.
Well, that's not. Look, they let him do something.
Yeah. Also, I never blame a player for their contract.
No. How many more injuries do we have to go through until Haslam starts getting some minutes? That's the real question.
I think he did. He played two minutes.
He played two minutes on Saturday night. So to answer your question we're there that's how they're awesome that's how cursed this is that's that's how you know i want i want haslam to start at some i don't want anybody to get we never root for injuries god forbid but i would say that we're probably like one injury away at this point from him starting a game yeah uh it's it's an insane series jimmy butler still is like such a good player but hopefully he he also feels like a guy who gets injured in i feel like the last few playoffs he's missed a couple games here and there so let's just turn injuries off turn them off and be a bead we can't even that just happens that's that's like you wake up in the morning and you take a shit and heiid gets injured.
It doesn't happen as much as. I think you're thinking of him running out of gas.
That's what usually happens when a guy in Nick Brighton is in a condition at the end of the year. So he just doesn't play well.
You're right. I got it confused.
He also just acts like he's injured all the time. Like for five seconds after most plays, Embiid will.
He'll have that look on his face where he grimaces and you're like oh shit oh shit this is bad pft the tension between hank and max is building to such a perfect level like it's not all the way there yet because hank still has to beat the hawks but like the little chirps and stuff have started and it's fucking great it's everything i've wanted i'm so excited me too i've noticed hank has had huge rivalries with everybody in this room you you just keep cycling through us you keep bouncing from one to the other and max versus hank that's that's a rivalry i think that's going to top all of them yeah i mean that one goes back i mean even before max was was on the show we we talked a lot of shit in the office this is just a continuation on this program max also the latest is he didn't want i said there has to be a sweep uh clause in the upcoming celtic sixers series max was talking max was drunk the other night so group text i think being like oh the celtics lost a real shame blah blah blah yeah that's where it's really going down but max was like i don't want clause. And I reminded him, you can't say you don't want to sweep clause when like three months ago you said Philly's title town.
You can't get swept in the second round if you're title town. Yeah, no.
Yeah, no, no. Sweep clause is in.
Sweep clause is in. All right.
So sweep clause is if either team sweeps, the other guy has to do the soul patch for three months.
No, it's not.
No, no, no.
What?
That's the sweep clause.
That was not the sweep clause.
Max, Max, I'm in on it.
I agree to the sweep.
On behalf of Max.
You can't grow a soul patch.
Oh, I can't.
That's the only thing I can grow pubes in a soul patch.
But it would take you like six years.
But you doing a facial hair bed is like me doing a weight gain bed. Yeah.
It's not really hurting you. If I was like, a loser has to gain 10 pounds.
I already get roasted for my facial hair. Yeah.
Yeah. But yeah, the sweep clause, three months.
No, no, no, no. Sounds like you both are scared.
I don't know sounds like you both are three months from till the football season no no summer no summer will be great yeah let's do it i almost want to lose this no hank was like already scheduling out the games being like if the celtics lose when would i have to have a soul patch it's it's it's gonna be great watching the no we we just it's two full two full cycles two full cycles is the is this you shouldn't agree to that because he he is more likely to get swept and also he's a fucking gorilla he grows hair like yeah it needs to be a month I think one month say three months you're not no way three months hank the celtics are not gonna get swept true so just say three months we can't do three months we can't do three months two months two two months two months but they have to be both the months have to be 31 days one month one month one month two months six weeks what about what about two months but they can be non-consecutive months? So you can do the first one right now. And then you can do the second one in October.
I don't hate that. Okay.
All right. Deal.
Fuck. Two non-consecutive months.
All right. Beautiful.
This is bullshit. Beautiful.
If the Sixers get fucking swept. Don't get swept.
Don't talk shit and then get swept I like don't even talk that much shit Oh my god That might be up there with the Zach Wilson and Patrick Mahomes Comment Oh man Yeah dude just months is so long. People are going to be so bored six weeks.
Embiid's going to be fine.
You said it yourself.
If people, Paul will win a game.
He's so good.
If the Sixers get swept, I will never forget.
All right, we'll put it in Embiid clause.
Embiid has to play at least half the games.
Yes.
Okay.
All right, so it's two months, non-consecutive two months, and Embiid has to play at least half the games. Yes.
Okay. All right.
So it's two months, non-consecutive two months, and Embiid has to play at least half the games. I love it.
You're doing the math in your head. Yeah.
October, you can do it. Who cares about October? Yeah.
People just be like, oh, it's a Halloween costume for at least one weekend. So we're not going to be nutting anyway.
No, it's November. Fuck.
Do November. But yeah, so it's a halloween costume for at least one weekend so you're not gonna be nutting anyway no it's november fuck do november but yeah so it's one month the sweep calls would be one month now immediately and then i can choose my other month yes okay but it can't be february before yeah it cannot be february it's gonna be before unless it's a leap year before the end of the year no before the end of the year before before the yeah.
That's fine. Isn't 2024 a leap year? Is it? Yeah, because you guys started 2016.
Okay, you can do February. So 2024.
You can do February, because that's fun. If it's a leap year.
If it's 29 days. Okay, fine.
Okay. Oh, man.
This is fine. Max losing another Super Bowl with a soul patch would be so awesome.
Oh, man. All right, Hank, what do you think about the Celtics and Hawks? You lost the game.
Yeah, that was a good one. And Max really gave it to you.
Yeah, he was chirping like the Celtics were going to lose a series, but it was a good wake-up call. The Celtics didn't play defense.
The Hawks hit, I think, 78% of their threes. Is that a Frank Fleming stat? I don't think so.
I think that's accurate. Okay, okay.
It was a good wake-up call. They can't play defense like that to win in the playoffs.
It was a good wake up call. They can't play defense like that, you know,
to win in the playoffs. They got, you know, it was a
wake up call. They and now
they're good back on track. You know what? It's good
it happened in this round. Yeah, no, I
agree. 44% of
their threes.
Maybe it was the first half. I don't know
what it was. It was
they didn't miss a shot. They didn't miss a shot.
They hit 70% of the ones that I saw. As far as you saw.
It might have been the first half. It might have been the first half.
They didn't even hit. They went 56% from the field, like overall.
81%. From free throw.
First quarter, 43.76 that's the first quarter first quarter how many quarters they play for wait you guys were winning 37 33 it was a crazy quarter so so when the hawks hit there all their threes no it's 43 maybe it was during immediate time i just see a three 43 points for% shooting in the first. Okay.
Thank you, Jake. Okay.
That was from March 6th. Totally disregard that.
Oh, no! I just typed in talk 76%. Wait.
I don't know where he got that. That was from March 6th? Yeah, that game.
That was the game I was talking about. The Celtics and the Hawks played a game.
No, that's Hawks heat. At the end of the regular season where it was like 100.
The Celtics won like 134 to 129.
There was no defense.
That game on Friday was the same way.
Hank, did you say 78% or 76%?
He said 76, and then Jake found the Hawks hitting 76
in the wrong game against the Heat.
The 76ers are in Hank's head so hard right now.
Oh, no.
That's true.
I'm not worried about the 76ers. You should pick 76 at the lottery bowl.
Nah. No.
Maybe? No. Maybe? No.
Okay. If we sweep.
So you guys are okay? Series over? Yeah. Done? Yeah.
No question? No. None.
I'm curious. If we lose the series, I'll do the soul patch.
What if the Hawks go 76% from three again? If the Celtics lose the series, I'll do the soul patch out of respect. Two months? One month.
Max, I'm curious from your perspective in all this. Technically, I think Hank's your boss.
Has this rivalry impacted your professional relationship with Hank?
I mean, not yet, but it hasn't.
It could.
I don't want to speak a couple weeks from now.
I think it will.
Yeah, it absolutely will.
Okay.
Some people are saying that you're withholding the golf video
because you're so angry at Hank.
Sure.
Yeah.
When is that coming out? I don't know.'s like it's like done i don't know so just put it out just sell you should just sell it like like dvds for 20 bucks outside of a nicks game 500k subs 500k subs that's gotta happen um all right we're gonna talk warriors uh kings and some. Ever had one of those days when it's just too cold to keep working? Nah, neither has Ariat.
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Okay, Warriors-Kings. Steph Curry dodged a major bullet.
Major bullet. If you didn't watch the game, basically what happened was the Warriors were up like 4 or 5 pretty much for the late stretch of the game.
It was a close game. And then with, I don't know, 45 seconds left, Steph got trapped in the backcourt, called a timeout, didn't have a timeout because Steve Kerr had used it on a challenge that he lost.
Kings got a free throw and the ball, hit a three, down one with 26 seconds left and then steph went down and shot uh a floater with 12 seconds left on the shot clock giving the kings a chance to win the game and basically end the warriors because 3-1 would have been very tough to come back from especially the way they've been playing on the road. And Harrison Barnes, who has been waiting for this moment for, what, six years, seven years, clanked what would have been the winning three.
And the Warriors survive, and it's 2-2. And we got ourselves a series.
This is the best series of round one, I think we all would agree. Yeah, it's been so fun.
Every game has been just been just electric and we are yeah we we did get a little ahead of ourselves with our beam team talk and all that but it was fun I'm I could apologize for that uh there was a very interesting quote from Draymond after the game regarding that shot that Harrison Barnes took and in uh I guess a touching tribute to Harrison Barnes's ricochet shot at him. And he said that we know that Fox is a clutch player.
He's a great player that can make those shots at the end of the game. So we decided not to let him go ISO on us.
Essentially just saying we were going to let Harrison Barnes shoot if he got the ball. That was our game plan on that last play.
And that is how they played it. Yeah, that is exactly how they played it.
And the Steph Curry timeout thing had a lot of people talking about Chris Webber
and his timeout, the timeout, as they call it, in the national championship game.
People forget, though, that that timeout, that fake timeout that didn't exist,
that is maybe the ultimate ball don't lie moment.
Yes.
Because Webber got the ball on the inbounds pass and he traveled.
He loves it. out that fake time out that didn't exist that is maybe the ultimate ball don't lie moment yeah because Weber got the ball on the inbounds pass and he traveled he like clearly walked the refs didn't call it and then he goes down and does that that's I think that's number one if we're doing all-time ball don't lie power rankings I would I would say that's probably number one and number two would be uh the Davion Clowney hit against because the play before that, they measured the first down and the ball was short and the ref just gave them the first down.
Spurrier was out there on the field pointing at like, Hey, there's two inches right there. There's two inches.
Very next play. Clowney blows them up in the backfield, picks the ball up.
Okay. So yeah, that you are right.
The Chris Weber was the most e egregious travel but yeah steph had a bad and it was crazy too because doris burke um and i love doris burke she's she's phenomenal she had two things that that made me like scratch my head one was she said uh steph curry is somehow still underrated i don't in what world in what world we had this whole segment two years ago where you told me to remind you every week to respect steph curry we do but he's been winning that last one like there is no there's nothing left but there was a portion when he yeah when they had when they missed the playoffs yeah but then i think last year was it like there's no one no one underrates him anymore right i think I think if you become so overrated that people always say that you're overrated then at some point you can then become underrated and I think that's what Steph was when what Jake just brought up before he won his fourth title when it was when he had won the three and then you know they missed the playoffs he got injured people kind of forgot about him but last year was it like that was Steph Curry's an all-time great right yeah yeah yes absolutely there's definitely a curve where you start and you're good and then you're underrated and then you get you defeat the underrated label and then you're awesome for a while people agree that you're awesome and then people are like no you're overrated because you haven't won every championship in the last 10 years right and then at that point you can become underrated yet again and that's exactly when Steph won the title yeah on the way you just described because then he became back to level yes and now he's back up again so no I don't think that Steph Curry is underrated he was but he no longer is yeah but he will be but if he wins a championship this year then he's going to be overrated next year agreed oh yes and then jake set a reminder that if steph curry wins the title this year that we have to start calling him overrated in like march and then if he's still playing when he's like 37 even even without a title, he's back to underrated. Yep.
Right now he's exactly correctly rated. Yep.
He's the perfect rated right now. And then the other was she kept on mentioning that the Kings were making dumb young team mistakes, which they were.
Their shot selection was suspect in the in the fourth quarter. but Steph made like the two dumbest young team mistakes that were like Steph got bailed out so bad in this game and he he had to have breathed the like largest sigh of relief because the back-to-back timeout and then shooting with 12 seconds left on the shot clock it was I was like it's something wrong with Steph Curry? Because it's mistakes that you just didn't expect the Warriors to make, and they were making them.
Yeah. It's also tough for the Kings to lose a Keegan-Murray game.
Yeah. If you get a Keegan-Murray 23-point game that's on the road, that's one that you have to win.
That's a Big Ten championship. Really, really, the entire region of Northern California, they they're undefeated it's a sweep that's true 4-0 um the other last thing i had was draymond green i know that he gets talked about a lot because he does dumb shit he is on another level defensively like i actually think that if you're the warriors you want him to get suspended at least once a playoff because he came back today and he was just wrecking everything.
Like he was immediately gets attack. He was he dude.
He was so good in that fourth quarter. There was a couple possessions where he blocked it.
Like he was basically playing two on one in the post. He would, you know, there was a block.
Then there was one time where Sabonis came down and even before Sabonis could like set up what he wanted to do and back him down he just picked his pocket like he just does it all defensively I don't think because he gets talked about for all the other shit rightfully so sometimes we forget how just how game-changing he is defensively and his passing yeah when he when he got that tech that wasn't for the foul right that was for the talking back and forth after the fact i believe so yeah okay good because i was gonna say that would have been a reputation call if he got if he got that technical foul because his hand actually the face made contact with his hand he didn't it didn't look like he meant to do that he and he when he gets suspended he doesn't like did he say anything after he got suspended for game three i feel like he doesn did. What do you mean? What do you say? He said, I've never heard of someone getting suspended for something they did like a few years ago.
Oh, okay. Wait, what do you mean? Something he did a few years ago.
They said part of the suspension was because of his previous actions. All right.
I was proven wrong. I just think that he backs up his villain heel way better than Dylan Brooks.
Yeah. Oh, a million percent.
He is a villain. He's a million percent the correct villain.
Like Dylan Brooks wakes up every morning. He tells himself in the mirror, like, you can be dream on today.
You dream on. Just like Max says, you're going to beat Hank.
You're going to do it. You're not going to have to get a soul patch for two non-consecutive months.
I can't stop thinking about the soul patch. The sweep clause is...
You are Dylan Brooks. You are in your own head constantly.
It really is the mirror meme where Dylan Brooks is pointing at himself and just going, go out there and you be Draymond today. Yeah.
Yeah. You do it.
You can do this. You know what? You're a shooter.
You're not just defense. You can score.
Shoot every shot. Let me ask you, Big Cat.
If the Kings lose this series, are we going to have any regret at all for getting Kings fever? No, because I also have a future on the Warriors, so there will be no regret. Okay.
None whatsoever. Kings fever, hepatitis beam, whatever you want to call it.
Listen, it's a longstanding theme of this show. You have to enjoy the ride.
So any Kings fan, if this series – I have had Hank's thought in my head all weekend when he was like, as soon as you guys started talking up the Kings, I was like, they're not going to win another game. Because, yeah, it's starting to feel that way.
hank's been around us for so long that he knows the way that we get about things and get super excited just to have everything shatter yeah but don't no one should ever as a sports fan as a person should ever regret the emotions they feel in the moment don't those oh oh you oh you said something on twitter the two days later was a was a bad take oh who cares that's what i was feeling live in the moment enjoy the ride that's why we don't hold january 6 against billy right exactly he was living in the moment he was like me and my bros are gonna go do something fun we want to feel alive and we're like do it dude we'll cover for you we'll say you were here recording so that when the fbi knocks on our door it won't be a problem and what has happened no problems it's actually been a blessing yeah exactly you came back a rejuvenated man we were led into the senate it wasn't we didn't go there purposefully they let us there they're like come on it's fine I was like oh oh man um I mean nuggets your nuggets look awesome my nuggets are awesome they're going for the sweep they are awesome and they haven't even had a Jokic game yet like he's he's been dominating but he hasn't been like filling up the stat sheet in terms of I don't think he's been the leading scorer in any of their wins so far they're getting it done Porter Murray stepping up our big three absolutely loving it it's uh yeah it it thankfully the one series because this happens every single year where there's one series where like it's 10 30 starts on recording nights and we'll like miss it or it will be like a Monday night and we'll just be so late this this was a good series to have be the miss series because they're gonna sweep them and i don't know what where the wolves go from here no it's actually great when you're in the weird spot that i've put myself in with this series because i wake up and i check what the score was first thing in the morning and i'm pumped no matter what i'm like awesome nuggets one that's good yeah Yeah. Yeah.
Maybe it won't be a sweep. We'll see.
All right. Should we talk some playoff hockey? What? PFT.
I know that you got some stuff going on, but Saturday had three consecutive overtimes. It was awesome.
And four counting if you count the game, the last game Friday night. Were you counting that? I mean, yeah, I just pay attention.
Well, you told us to bet the overtimes,
and we did, like, what a day
to have three out of the four games go to overtime,
and Hank gave us this betting strategy
to bet all overtimes?
Yeah, it was awesome.
Hank, you're so sharp when it comes to playoff hockey.
Congratulations, Hank.
Hank, I might retire from all the winnings I got. Yeah, yeah, I hope there's people listening that listen to me I didn't listen to myself what do you mean well I'm at the end of the day it's it's all on me it's a man in the arena I'm the only person responsible but Quiggs one of our co-workers he's kind of the round robin guy he we're in this together and then on Thursday the office he was really talking me out of it saying it's bad value value.
It's bad value. It lost three nights in a row.
Got in my head. I didn't bet it Saturday.
Wait, what? I didn't bet it Saturday. Wait, but you bet it the three nights in a row that it lost? Yep.
But you didn't bet it? Plus, like four. Saturday? Saturday had three? Saturday had three.
If you did the round robin, you would have cashed a lot. And it had three overtime games.
It had three. It almost looked like four.
four i lost a lot of sleep it ruined my entire night i was just pacing around my apartment just looking for someone to blame but there's no one to blame but myself and quigs but hey i'm so sorry because like when i when i was congratulating i thought that you would bet it because you were so into this bet i didn't that was not a troll i'm not trolling you i'm so sorry that this is the worst thing that's happened to anybody on this podcast this week. I agreed, yeah.
It was a long, long, long night Saturday. Thankfully, thankfully, the Avalanche game was tied going into the third period, and if that had went to overtime, I probably wouldn't be here right now.
But it still cashed a lot. If you bet it, it cashed a lot.
So I hope people listen and bet it. Damn, were there any NBA games where the fourth quarter had the exact same score? No, I didn't.
I stopped doing that. That's where Jack McCarthy, too.
We can throw some blame his way. Okay, okay.
But man in the arena, just you. Yeah, no one to blame but yourself.
Right. And quits.
Right. Okay, so yeah, play playoff hockey has been incredible three overtime games in one day was awesome the devils are back a lot like i i think every series um i guess now there's some series that are three one uh the bruins being one of them but there's i think tomorrow night yeah islanders being another one tomorrow night we have four games games that are two one series like that's gonna be awesome i love that do you think i should not i should not do it it's over right that was it uh no you should keep trying i i think it is over and i think there's just gonna be a shitload of overtimes so whatever you decide to do, the opposite is going to happen.
Yeah, right. That's where we're at.
You control playoff hockey this year. You should not do it.
And then when overtimes happen, people can say, thank you, Hank, for giving us such a great playoff hockey. Right? Yeah, I guess.
Because whatever you do, you will lose. Yeah, that's how it feels um your uh your bruins had a great moment at the end of the game hank when the the goalie tried to fight kachuk that was awesome it was also kind of well it was kind of a hold me back moment because he knew exactly where the linesman was at that point but seeing a goalie throw his gloves off is one of the coolest parts of hockey that you almost never get to see.
Chuck's a scumbag.
What?
Why?
He just plays.
He's cheap shotter.
Oh, no.
The Bruins don't have anybody like that on their team.
No.
Brad Marchand hasn't got a penalty the whole playoffs.
Remember when PFT would be like,
Tom Wilson hasn't been suspended for any regular season games.
Yeah.
That's a fact. He plays the game hard plays the game the right way on that edge hank you have you have a guy that licks people no they said on the broadcast today marshall knows his reputation he knows it's bigger than him he's he's playing smart no penalties you're looking good how's how's beenwagon? Did it feel good? Yeah, we're back on the Bergeron thing.
Concerns me. I feel like it's going to be tough to win a cup without Bergeron, but they're playing well without him.
And hopefully it gets better. Yeah.
The Leafs are back. That was an awesome comeback for them.
To win in overtime was pretty sick. I saw there was a lease fan who got a stanley cup tattoo which they literally went they went up to one for like two hours and the guy got the tattoo like the shittiest tattoo yeah shittiest tattoo ever prison prison tattoos are better than what this guy got fuck i i blame the tattoo artist for that at some point you have to draw a line that's a bad tattoo pun but you do have to you have to tell your your customer like this i'm not going to blame the tattoo artist for that.
At some point, you have to draw a line. That's a bad tattoo pun.
But you do have to tell your customer, like, this, I'm not going to do this. This is just, this is the dumbest idea.
You could get literally anything else tattooed on your body besides a Toronto Maple Leafs Stanley Cup champion tattoo, and it would be fine. Yeah.
And I wouldn't blame the artist for that. That's on you.
You should be disbarred or whatever it is um islanders minute bury the tape bury the tape wait i like that you gotta watch it and figure out what went wrong no no everything went wrong it was a terrible game so uh it's over right no no no blowouts happen all the time in the playoffs right bounce back but you're down 3-1 and the one game you won We know you guys blew them out, right? No, no, no. Blowouts happen all the time in the playoffs.
Right. You've got to bounce back.
But you're down 3-1, and the one game you won.
No, you guys blew them out, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, because you had game three, usually the home team,
when they're down 2-0, comes back, wins a game, and now it's over.
No, no, no.
So, win on Tuesday.
Win on Thursday.
Win on Saturday. Win on Saturday?
Yeah, fuck it.
He's just giving them a path, PFT. I see it.
It sounds like if they get three wins in a row, the Islanders could really take control of the series. Do you think that the series has been like 50-50? I guess you did have game two that missed call.
Yeah, and they scored on themselves game two. That's hard to do.
Yep.
First two games only lost by one.
One blowout.
Score more goals than the other team.
Yeah.
Let's just do it.
Okay.
Yeah, let's just be legends.
I like that.
But today was really bad.
Yeah, very bad.
Very, very bad.
Start off hot.
Five early shots immediately to a five on three.
And the game is over. Oh, man.
You got to go down 2-0 now. That's the key.
Go down two goals to nothing, and then come back, win. Then you guys will win the series.
Well, they did that today. Most dangerous lead in hockey.
They went down 3-0, 4-0. 4-0? Did you go down 4-0? Yeah.
5-0? No, 4-0. 4-1.
It was 4-1, 5-1. But whoever scores first has one.
Okay, so there you go. We got the keys to success.
And then the Oilers-Kings has been an awesome series, but it goes on so late at 3-3 right now in the third. I guess if we are still here at the end of the show, we'll update everyone.
Will Ferrell's going to just every game. He was at the Lakers game.
He's got this weird face paint, Kings game. And I have to say, I love it.
I know that some people are like, oh, he's being a trier. If you're as rich as Will Ferrell and as famous as him and you've done as much as him, just going to games and just being a fool would be so much fun.
Yeah. Just my entire life would be spent just going to different sporting events.
Right. That's it.
Right. And it's like you can, it probably is also like one of the nice times where you can go out in public and then when you're sitting at your seat, people aren't going to most likely bother you.
So good for him. Enjoy.
That's why he worked so hard for those like seven years where he put out three movies a year and everybody was like, okay, we get it, Will. We get it.
It's for times like this. Now's the time where you just relax.
Agreed. Agreed.
Okay, anything else in the sports world before we do who's back? Anything? Billy, set up. You gave me a false start.
My Defenders, an XFL North Championship game next weekend. Huge.
9-1 of the year. That's the XFL Minute.
Okay, XFL Minute. All right, let's see who's back, and then we have NFL Draft Talk with Peter Schrager.
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Okay. Who's back of the week? Who's back of the week is Chief Keef.
Oh, I davis garcia fight he walked uh tank davis out singing love sosa and i was watching it and i just you know kind of hit me first of all chief keef was 16 when that song got put out banger 10 years ago he doesn't really even put music out and it's just a testament to how good that song is and how you know big he was when he was 16 years old that that song is still relevant today to the point where he's walking out the number one prize fighter for the biggest fight of the year it was it was an awesome moment because i just i had had the same exact feeling as you it's like oh my god i forgot about this song and he walked out i was like that song's like really really good and he put it out when he He 16 yeah i also uh that fight was great because it was whenever boxing has like a big big fight where it's two undefeated guys like there's just nothing like it just feels like my whole day i was like i can't wait for this fight pft i had a real throwback experience with this fight that you'll appreciate and maybe not anyone else i bought this fight on regular pay-per-view with my tv it was nice i looked through it in the sports guide and bought the fight i tried to do that and i couldn't find it i was i was and then i started i was late i was around late i was like i transported in time it was so fucking cool and that meant i could go i could like flip back and forth between the fight and the lakers game like yeah i i i want to be able to buy every fight like that it was so much hitting a button hitting a button on your tv is incredible and and getting the fight i love it there's also a sick sick liver knockout which is my favorite type of knockout it is the best i think i've said this on the show but i love to just watch youtube compilations of liver knockouts because and it was perfect you get that like five second moment or it felt like five seconds it's probably only like one or two but you get hit in the stomach and then you take two steps back and then it's just debilitating pain that just paralyzes you and everybody was like what the fuck happened that's this fight this is rigged yeah that didn't count this is he took a dive but no the liver knockout i hope to god i'm never punching my liver i protect my liver at all costs besides not drinking that was my who's back liver shots yeah liver shots just epic it was uh it was very fun to watch all twitter debate whether he quit or not because he did pop up after but like a liver shot is yeah you could see it he just couldn't
like his whole body shut down davis knew too right away right away yep yeah tank davis's hands are
fucking insane he's just so much power uh okay is that your who's back good who's back uh my
who's back is the four aces oh yeah yeah ch go chris was fucking pumped absolute wagon uh i think it's their fifth win no other no other team has won the yard or no the range goat sorry they had the lead going into the final round they choked it away i watched because it was friday and saturday night sports on all night late and then it was a nice little kind of wean off the sports because it was on it it started at 10 it was on till like 2 a.m i watched both nights it was entertaining crazy crowds they had djs going at every hole it was good golf i i you know i really don't care one way or the other i don't know i think it helped because it was so late at night i don't know if live can figure out a way to to do all their at night, even when they're in the U.S. That's probably not possible.
But I watched it. I was enjoyed.
I actually kind of liked the team format today because the four aces, they were coming back. It made sense where before it was like, why the team thing means nothing.
But it was kind of entertaining to watch. Like as each player would get a birdie or someone would get a bogey.
It's like, oh, this team might win. This team might lose.
It kind of made sense, yeah. It's golf but louder.
I walked into the coffee shop this morning. Everybody was talking about the four aces.
It was incredible. Brooks' brother had a hole-in-one.
Yeah, it was awesome. They were throwing stuff on the tee box.
It was insane. And it was funny because I watched it and I didn't have sound on.
And I thought it was Brooks. Because I was like, they didn't really show his face and the hiccups.
And so I was happy for Brooks. I'm happy for Brooks for hitting that hole-in-one.
Regardless. I'm happy that his brother got hit a hole-in-one.
Yeah. Yeah, Brooks played well.
That's the thing. I was watching it.
It's like, yeah, you're watching. Brooks is one of the best players in the world.
Cam Smith, one of the best players in the world. When they're hitting great golf shots, it's entertaining.
It doesn't really matter what league. I think that's the thing watching i was watching it's like yeah you're you're watching brooks is one of the best players in the world cam smith one of the best players in the world like when when they're hitting great golf shots it's entertaining it doesn't really matter what you know camp smith did a shoey camp smith did a shoey it was sick i was just getting all my live golf updates through your twitter i do think yeah i do think that it was a the the just ripping dj music in the middle of play was a little bit weird i feel like the golfers have to be this is cool.
This is what we want. But there's no way that they're not walking off being like, this is fucking brutal.
Patrick Cantley would still be out there. Yeah.
Okay. Couldn't expect.
And it got a Vita on repeat for his round. By the way, I'm addicted to Patrick Cantley clips because they just keep on purpose now.
And they keep coming out every single day.
There's old ones.
There's new ones.
It just every shot takes like five minutes.
It's not his fault, though.
I'm on his side.
What?
They don't police him.
Oh, so you're saying he's just playing within the rules.
It's not.
But if they're not going to enforce the rules, why shouldn't he do it?
That's what he says.
He says, you know, no one. Talking about the Masters.
He's like,'s like i played this i know i play slow i've known this my whole life no one at any point during the masters was like you have to play faster so i didn't okay that's actually a fair fair point i i tell my son chris i say you have to go to bed it's nine o'clock and the aces are still playing but i don't actually take them upstairs and it's on me as a parent for not enforcing bedtime right four aces are stacked i love this iteration of hank are they a dream team cw super team they're stacked who's on it uh pat it's reed johnson pat perez i don't know who their fourth is but it's only top three that matter you don't know the fourth ace no i don't you just told us every every team is every team is three good guys in a scrub how do you not know the fourth ace every it's literally the four aces and you can't name the fourth ace doesn't matter no that does not go who ringo we got to know the fourth eater you lie yeah no it's every every every team is like every team every team and live you you go to see their team and it's like okay there's three there's three names i recognize and then but hank you do realize that they would be the three aces but they're four they're the four aces but only three no there's four of them there's four of them they're four aces it says in the name right but only the top three matter but they're the four aces they are the four aces they're this guy peter hewlin jake i don't know that's correct i don't know either he is so rich now because of the four aces and he doesn't have to do shit good for him it is you line i was right yeah good for him uh all right what's your who's back pft. My who's back of the week is cactuses.
Oh, yeah. Cactuses.
Talk about this. Big time.
Cacti. Cacti.
Good point. Yeah.
Let's talk about this. Thank you for correcting my grammar correctly this time.
No problem. So after our show that we recorded on, I guess that was Thursday night, Billy, after we signed off, said, hey, I know that we sent your laptop to you, but was there any other weird gifts down there? And when Billy asked me, do you have a weird gift that's waiting from Billy Football, I was immediately like, well, I have to go down and see what this gift is right now, which is very thoughtful that Billy sent a present over.
So I went downstairs to the hotel lobby asked them if they had a another package for me they handed to me i come back upstairs and i open it up and billy sent me a lovely cactus in the mail um as a like sorry uh sympathy cactus yeah which i um i then i'm taking over to my i actually took it over to my mom's house yesterday so um i dropped it off and uh she says thank you very much billy um she doesn't have to water it which is nice it's a gritty plant which is nice cactus is basically a gift that you give to somebody and you're like you suck at keeping things alive here's a cactus yeah i had a feeling you're gonna get a bunch of flowers and i thought i want to get you like the the grittiest flower but say why you really didn't get him flowers because you told us on thursday billy didn't want to get you flowers because he's like flowers die and then you'll think you're dead dad yeah that's what he told us and we're like oh okay that's that's exactly what i was saying it's like you can't here's one thing that won't die it also reminded me of what a little prick billy is yeah i was gonna say because i told him i was like because you're staying in a hotel and you're coming back and i was like you just gave pft i mean it's nice you gave it to your mom but at first i was like you just gave pft something that like you can't fit in a luggage you guys are just you you guys are just feeling guilty because you didn't send flowers or any presents. No
I would never send someone a cactus
after a family death. Well the cactus
I mean I think it's like a little more
like just like a bro gift like here's a cactus
out of all the flowers. To PFT's mom
Well it was to PFT. It was
Oh okay. Yeah it was to me.
I think
the real reason is Billy didn't want to send flowers
because then he'd be like he'd probably thinks I'm gay Yeah. Sus.
So sus. Caxes aren't sus.
No. They're not sus.
It's like, here's a flower that will hurt you. Yeah.
Yeah. It's important whenever giving a sympathy gift to someone to make sure your masculinity stays intact.
Yeah. I appreciate that, Billy.
Thank you. Honestly, it was was nice thank you for thinking of me yeah you
did i mean you did think like more than just like send whatever so that you do get credit for that exactly yeah good friend billy great friend how big was the cactus it's a cute little guy oh nice i thought this size i thought it was multiple i thought it was cacti that you sent no no yeah My other who's back is baseball cards
Because one of the things
That you get to do when you're cleaning out a bunch of stuff that belongs to your parents is you get to find all your old baseball cards that you had when you were a kid. And I had a shitload of them.
And they're still in like their big. Every kid has a baseball card binder that they keep.
And I've got a thick-ass binder filled with hopefully some good baseball cards. I've never been – we did like that – we were ripping packs, right, with King Golden that one time.
I'm going to bring the binder back. I'm going to sit down.
What, Doug's is a big baseball card guy. Yep.
I'm going to have him go through all my childhood baseball cards and figure out if there are any decent ones in there. Because I'm pretty sure that I've got at least like a handful of rare, valuable baseball cards.
So I'm pumped about that. That's awesome.
As a kid, when I had the binder of baseball cards, I had the genius thought to take all the really good ones out and separate them. And then I lost the separate ones.
So I went through my baseball cards like, I don't know, it was like five years ago. And it was just pages of just the worst players possible.
You know, I definitely had a side box where you put the good ones in the solid paper. Yes.
Solid plastic. Yes.
And I definitely did that. I have not looked to see if I have those cards i probably don't yeah i probably have scrubs that that i wish you hadn't said that yet yeah um yeah i i remember having a bunch of ken griffey cards and i just none of them because i i in my infinite wisdom is like i don't know a 10 year old i was like, I'll save the really expensive ones, and I'll save them somewhere else and just lost that.
That's probably exactly what's going to happen to me. Yeah.
Shit. Well, I got good news, PFT.
My who's back is our blue check marks. Yeah.
We're back. We're back, Davey.
Elon loves us more than everyone else. He's an AWL.
out shout out elon musk um appreciate you man he bought i guess he bought our blue check marks and he's personally paying for them out of his bank account so so that's that's awesome i i was so surprised when i saw that i had it back me too i have no idea how it came back so absolutely zero idea so you texted you're like're like, does anyone else have a blue checkmark? I went and looked. I was like, fuck, I do too.
Obviously, people shamed us online. But then when I realized what finally happened, so apparently he just gave blue checkmarks to anyone with over a million followers because they're like Norm MacDonald got a blue checkmark.
Anthony Bourdain got a blue checkmark mark these are people who are dead uh and it says like they verified their phone number uh so i'm i mean am i supposed to apologize for having over a million followers no no you shouldn't i mean it's just a fact it's it's math yeah and hank is are you are you mad no do you think you won there's nothing i could care less about than Twitter and blue check marks. Okay.
So he's mad. Uh,
well, he, is are you are you mad no do you think you were there's nothing i could care less about than twitter and blue check marks okay so he's mad uh well he also he gave us the blue check marks but i don't think that we have any of the features we do we do we didn't yesterday and then when i went on today i tried to send a tweet and then it's it has the timer now like 30 second countdown that has to be a
feature right yeah sick okay i'm gonna start posting 10 minute videos all the time press submit and then it says sending tweet and you just press send it right so we he gave it to us baby he he just was like here i love you guys the most i've always been a big elon fan i've been very consistent on that through the history of this podcast and shout out our boss dave portoy, who bought it. And maybe like within five minutes, Elon had given back the blue check marks to everyone with a million followers.
Yeah. Perfect timing.
I texted Dave because I saw when I had mine that he got one himself. And I was like, hey, Elon gave all this blue check marks.
And he was like, wait a second. I just paid for it.
Are you getting yours for free? I was like, yeah, yeah, I am.
He's like, this is such bullshit.
I hope that Dave actually makes us think about it and tries to get his $8 refunded.
Yes.
Yes.
But yeah, we're back.
I mean, I guess cash the under, but we didn't buy it.
So it doesn't count, right?
It was forced upon us.
It was.
I'm happy for you guys.
I know you probably lost sleep over it. I'm just happy.
You know, I was actually kind of liking the chaos of Twitter. Yeah, it was forced upon us.
It was. I'm happy for you guys.
I know you probably lost sleep over it,
and I'm just happy, you know.
I was actually kind of liking the chaos of Twitter.
Yeah.
It was very chaotic.
And then he just, he's just going to keep,
I would imagine he's going to take him away again.
Oh, yeah.
It's, that's the fun.
I actually like the game he's playing,
where he just gives him back, takes him away,
says, oh, on this date, everyone has to buy it.
Jake buys it.
Then we, then they take it back again. Like, it's just going to keep going like this and i'm i'm in for all of it i wonder if we change our names if it would get rid of it again i think maybe i don't know though because i was updating my profile every single time the defenders won a game to reflect the record when they were undefeated and it wasn't being taken away then so there must have been some arbitrary date where he said if you change your name then it's going away yeah so don't don't yell at us because we didn't buy it it was forced upon us but i'm i'm fine that it was forced upon me if it were my decision i would told elon no thank you um but he just he made me do it yeah against my will yeah against my will so uh there's nothing we can do.
It was a non-consensual blue checkmark. Yep.
Jake. You vaped us.
Or Billy. Liver shots, and also, it turns out Ryan Garcia had a mole in his fight camp that he posted about after the fight.
He said, there was a mole in my fight camp. I can't believe this happened.
And between that and him saying that the rehydration clause was a little too stringent. So he couldn't fully rehydrate, uh, after the weigh in, in those words, like two excuses on the thing.
I can see the rehydration hair. Yeah.
His hair is too pretty. He is way too pretty.
He's way too pretty, way too pretty. But they said the same thing about Oscar de la Hoya back in the day.
Yeah. Yeah.
But McGregor was in his locker room after and was like, hey, get the rehydration clause fixed. And I think if you guys go at it again, you'll definitely win.
I love good boxing excuses. They're always the best right afterwards.
A mole. That's actually very salacious.
I think that if there's an actual mole in a fight camp and they catch him, you should be allowed to kill that guy. Yeah.
Just put him in the ring. No, but actually from a psychological level, a mole in the fight camp is totally going to mess with the psyche of a fighter.
Because half of the Cold War leading up to the fight between the two fight camps is so huge that having a mole in the camp is going to definitely shake you even if you know like what oh he's got like a one two like there's not much information you can give but it's just psychologically just so devastating damn damn it's very tough uh jake oh no you got oh and last uh last week's back nate diaz choked yeah out in new orleans just some random dude got involved with him and he just put him down in like 10 seconds from a crazy like chokehold and just laid him down in the street. That guy's got to have better facial recognition, like walking up and being like, wait, that's Nate Diaz.
Sorry, I don't want any. It was so fast that he choked him out.
And he let him down kind of nicely. It was the most polite way to utilize a street fight.
Yeah. It's not even like facial recognition.
If you see a guy with cauliflower ear, it's just ear recognition. If they have cauliflower ear, don't fuck with them.
Yep. That's a fact.
Jake, finish us off. Then we've got Peter Schrager, NFL Draft.
My who's back is Coach Prime. Colorado spring game this weekend.
Yes. Sold out 45,000 people.
They had 1,800 people last season 1800 people last season unreal vibes are changing after just a new chapter for them and yeah off to a great start yeah it was cool seeing that i mean we've been to that stadium obviously for grit week that stadium is like one of the coolest stadiums with the mountains in the background it's it colorado being back would be nice my cousins get that i'm pretty jealous of them oh shit he gets he gets the prime prime years yeah because they were he could have just had the worst four years yeah well i don't think you go to that's the thing you don't go to colorado for football so it's just an added bonus right right that's true i love in that stadium the the giant black area behind the uh the uprights on the one side. Ralphie, underrated mascot.
Sean Salaam. Football is better.
Football is better when Colorado is good. And I'm excited for them to have missed kicks this year.
And we can just use the pictures of you when you're in full uniform. Yes.
That will be fun. Yes.
Because they're relevant. Or a maid kick maybe.
And we can celebrate the homies. Well, no.
It's like we need signed PFT. Yeah.
Oh like signed pft yeah oh yeah yep yep good point see that's the thing everything i say you guys you guys got you guys i gaslit hank on that one no it's like everything everything i say goes into a negative lens it's like right you look through it a positive right positive that's what i was about to say yeah like you exactly right he's gaslighting you i know it's crazy thinking that it's crazy. Into thinking that, that's crazy, PFT.
It's bullshit. It's bullshit.
The reality is I didn't miss any. I nailed them all on my first try.
Yeah, right. Exactly.
We have the videotape. Yeah, we'll put it out today.
First cut, I said, first song. Yeah.
Okay, let's get to Peter Schrager. Great NFL stuff.
We have Daniel Jeremiah and Todd McShay coming on Wednesday. So more NFL draft prep draft week.
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And now here's Pete Schrager. all right uh we now welcome on very special guest good friend of the program you can see him every single morning on good morning football he's on paternity leave though right now or he's back he's gonna then go back on paternity leave it is peter strager we're gonna talk some draft it is draft week we have uh all of our guests up.
We're going to do some of the mock draft guys on Wednesday, but we want to get you on, Schrager, to talk about what these teams are thinking, what you're hearing. But before we do that, is Derrick Henry on the Eagles? Because none of us can figure it out.
There's too many tweets about it. No, he's not.
Not now, no. And that was the first I heard of that this weekend.
But I think once you get Howie Roseman and you get big swings everywhere that, you know, and I think it was put out by Akbar, who I love. Great dude.
And that's not a usual source. You think, okay, well, that must be close to the situation.
He wouldn't come out and just say, oh, all of a sudden today I'm going to be an NFL insider. No, it would have to be pretty firm.
But the people I've checked with, that is not the case at the moment.
But tennis season, constant revolving door mode right now.
So nothing would surprise me at the draft.
But as of right now, no.
Can I tell you guys what happened to me, though, this week,
real quick before we get into the draft?
Yes.
I had a birthday on Thursday, and I've got three really good friends,
and they know what I'm interested in
and they can get me something. They could buy me a gift, anything.
I wake up in the morning and I
have a cameo waiting for me. I have a cameo waiting for me.
I've never had a cameo. No one's
bought me a cameo for my fantasy football draft. We once had Robert Wolfe from Arliss very earnestly
deliver the draft results. That's the only time I ever used Cameo.
Frank the Tank Fleming did a Cameo and he did it so naturally. He's so smoothly.
It was almost like he was very comfortable doing it. And I asked, how much was this? And they're like, it was kind of a lot.
So I would be fascinated to know how many people have had Frank the Tank do birthday cameos and just what kind of second living he is making on the cameo market.
Well, not second living.
That's Frank's full-time job.
Unbelievable.
Cameo guy.
Everything else is icing on top of that.
Yeah, he's good at it.
He's a cameo millionaire.
I always say, like, if you walk around the office in August, Frank is just sitting in a chair doing everyone's draft order. He's like, all right, and Pat, you're one.
Evan, you're two. Steve, you stink.
Three, and he's just ripping them all off. So he is a cameo millionaire.
It was the best, and he botched everyone's pronunciation of all my friends' names. He botched everything, and I loved it, and then he got angry at the end.
I don't even know what he's angry about but I guess that's his bit you know like alright sure he got angry
yes yes okay so
yeah go ahead PFT
Peter I was just wondering because last time you came
on the show you told us about you know
the story of Ron Rivera hearing
you talking shit about him pulling you aside
and saying let's hash this out like men
are there any coaches right now
right off the bat
that you're on their shit list
and if so would you like
to make amends to them on this podcast
Thank you. And are there any coaches right now, right off the bat, that you're on their shit list? And if so, would you like to make amends to them on this podcast? Yeah, no.
As of right now, I feel like I'm in pretty good shape. I'm going through the mental exercise right now.
I'm in pretty good shape with all of them. I think I'm in pretty good shape.
Picked against the 49ers and picked the Eagles in the NFC Championship game. And they, they were well aware of that they weren't thrilled.
And then they, you know, that's kind of like an asterisk game because of the injury, but they weren't thrilled for a while, but then that came around and everyone's good. But yes, combine, I make amends with everyone.
I kiss everyone's ass. I get up there.
Hey buddy. And it's all good.
You, you should going forward. If you do get on the wrong side of a coach, you should just come on the show and like a like a hate baton just pass it off to us be like yeah like jonathan gannon like is not happy with me just pass it off like we've always thought jonathan gannon is a fucking moron and we'll just go way deeper yeah we'll go way deeper and we'll just we'll take all the heat uh so yeah that that's a good question though uh all right let's talk draft though yeah let's start with one is bryce young's a panther right we just it's just set where we don't have to worry about it he's a panther there's no there's not that's what's gonna happen right 90 90 i would say right now as we record this yes he's a panther but crazy stuff does happen and i've seen teams tell me it's 100 and then three days later it changes well something came in late, yes, I will say right now, Bryce Young's the Panther.
And then it gets really interesting at number two. Yes.
Yes. Yes.
So let's just do it. I mean, we're hearing now it feels like C.J.
Stroud has, like, the free fall ability because at number two, there's now rumors that the Texans might not even take a quarterback. Is that all because Will Anderson would be there and D'Amico Ryans is an Alabama guy and a defensive guy? And everyone's just doing the dot connecting.
And then when we get to Thursday night, it's like, oh, no, they took a quarterback. Duh.
It's really interesting because I still think they might take a quarterback. But at two, they've got a couple of things at play here.
Now, Will Anderson is a name that everyone's throwing out because D'Amico and him went to Alabama, but that's not the defensive end type that the Niners had. They always had these big, long rangy guys, whether it be Bosa and had Armstead and Buckner.
And it was a totally different, the four down defensive lineman is Tyree Wilson. That's the guy.
And the highest paid defensive line coach in the league is this guy, Chris Kosarek, who is at the Niners and he's like a screamer and he's awesome. And he is the guy who teaches all these guys in the defensive
line in San Francisco. He's a Texas Tech guy and he would know Tyree Wilson and D'Amico and him
obviously are tight. So I'm not just saying because one guy went to Alabama, Nick Saban looks at D'Amico Ryan and says, you know what, young man, you should take Will Anderson.
He's and will anderson um i would add that their gm casario last year at this time everyone
you Nick Saban looks at the Miko Ryan and says, you know what, young man, you should take Will Anderson. He's taking Will Anderson.
I would add that their GM, Casario, last year at this time, everyone had them taking Sauce Gardner three or going with an offensive lineman like Ikiakuanu, someone. And he took Derek Stingley at three.
And he's got a guaranteed contract. And at 15, I think they took Kenyon Green, who no one had.
He's an offensive guard. so like texans are a perfect team for us and number two because anyone who tells you that they know exactly what they're doing they're full of it um which makes the draft really fun that would be shocking to me just just at a human level if a texas tech defensive player went number two overall that'd be crazy that that would be like a complete that would that would fuck with my mind to know to no end it's not what they're known for no it seems like it seems like cj stroud is falling because um i is it all because of the s2 test because when the panthers traded up everybody was like cj stroud he's the guy he's the guy so what what is i've heard about the s2 test What is the S2 test? And how much does it actually factor into play who these guys are picking? I don't think the S2 test is, and I don't think CJ Stroud is plummeting.
I talked to teams and a lot of the teams have CJ Stroud number one or two on their board. So he might go later than expected, but it's not like he's having some free fall out of the first round or anything.
Okay. The S2 test.
I do a podcast and I had on the guy a couple weeks ago before it became this bubbling up thing, because I had been hearing from a lot of teams and half the teams in the NFL use this thing. I think it's two teams per division.
And then like, because of the contract that they have, they don't want to use more than two teams per division. They want to like just contract two teams per division.
So you could connect the dots, which ones use them. The guy's name was Brandon Ally.
He is one of the co-founders. And it's basically, it's, you know, the wonder look for years was like train A leaves the station at 3 p.m.
Train B leaves the station at 3.20 p.m. If train A, you know, it's an IQ.
The doctor's the mother, those type of things. Exactly.
And it's like an IQ test and you have four minutes and it's a one to 40 scale. This thing is all about how you process information and how quickly you can process information.
So you basically sit in this like virtual reality machine for 45 minutes and there's objects flying at you and you've got to yell out the object. So if you're a defensive back and you're taking the S2 cognition test, they can do it where there's like nine things going on the screen at once.
And you're supposed to spot out, you know, image A, B, C, D, E, F, where are they in what order? If you're a quarterback, it's quick processing. Okay, this is covered up.
What's that? So it doesn't, it's not an IQ test. It doesn't grade your intelligence.
It grades how quick you can process information in real time. So the numbers that got leaked out there, like everyone's like Bryce Young got a hundred.
I actually heard there was a quarterback and it wasn't from these guys. It was from another team that graded higher than Bryce Young.
And he's not a day one pick, but the Stroud thing, you know, Bob McKinn, who's a really like, you know, respected journalist, he had scores. I don't have the actual numbers.
I don't know what Stroud got. I do know Bryce Young was exceptional.
I do know Brock Purdy last year was exceptional. And I do know there are other players in recent years that have gone on to great success who have high S2 scores.
Then again, that comes from the company. So I don't know what to believe and what doesn't.
And you hear this stuff. And the company would say, well, we didn't put those numbers out, but I can't imagine how those get out otherwise.
Yeah. It sounds like Kyler Murray would be awesome at that.
It's just like living in the metaverse. Yeah.
Playing a video game. What'd you make of people being upset that the Cardinals went out to be at Kyler Murray's statue unveiling? There were a lot of people in the league who were like, see, that's why they're the Cardinals.
Instead of grinding tape, they were at a Norman, Oklahoma. And my thing, it's like, that kid has been so beleaguered and dragged through the mud.
I think it's kind of nice to have all those people. It was their head coach, offensive coordinator, PR guys, their GM, all go to Norman, Oklahoma on an April weekend to support their quarterback.
I think it goes a lot. It was nice.
Yeah. It was nice.
Yeah. Go ahead, Peter.
I just thought that Steve Kime wasn't allowed out of the state of Arizona. That's what shocked me about it.
But besides that, it was great. It was nice.
And also, it's so weird sometimes when injuries happen later in the season. Like, I have to keep reminding myself, Kyler Murray's not going to start the season last year.
It's like out until a couple weeks. And a new staff, it's nice that they're like, hey, this is our guy, even though he's going to be i had one other cj stroud question because it was the uh reason why we had a bub off online between uh ryan clark and brady quinn uh very fun whenever two media members do that especially especially two ex-players like we don't get that usually it's just angry guy on twitter who writes for publication a versus angry guy on Twitter who works on, you know, publication.
This was two ex players getting in their feelings about CJ Stroud's interviews. Go on.
Yeah, so the genesis of the argument was the rumor that C.J. Stroud ghosted the Manning Passing Academy last year.
And I think it's, you know, this is the time of year where everyone just throws out red flags and smoke screens. I honestly, and you can tell me I'm way off, but like most of these teams know who they're going with.
They've already kind of made up their mind what their draft board looks like. So any of this new information, it's either they've already known it and it hasn't affected them or it just won't affect them, period.
question to you is if cj stroud doesn't go to cardinals are at three they could trade but they don't pick a quarterback because they went to kyler murray's statue unveiling now you're at the colts at four and the one guy who probably if he has a bone to pick is peyton manning who probably still has jim ur's ear. Is that in any world a possibility that CJ Stroud ghosting a passing Academy could eventually like affect his draft just because it landed on the Colts and Peyton Manning's like, Hey, I want, I want them to take Will Levis, not CJ Stroud.
No. Okay.
All right. So I would say none of it matters I would say if if that item which I think you know Brady he didn't go to the passing academy that's for sure but I don't know if he goes to them I think they're obviously a lot of been said and again not from the Mannings not from Brady Quinn not from what I heard was he did give them a proper heads up that he wasn't going to be there and he was at at Ohio State that week.
And I don't think the Mannings were up in arms over it by any means. I also think the Manning influence on the Indianapolis Colts as a franchise might be blown out of proportion just a little bit.
Because I've heard that, yes, they like Will Levis. I've also heard that there's people in the building who like Stroud.
I hear, and we're recording this early in the week, there are people in the building who like Richardson more than both those guys. So as we sit here and we're talking about this, it's to me, those three names, and I think they are going to go quarterback, but if it's Richardson on Thursday and Rich Eisen's mouth drops and we all go nuts, I wouldn't be shocked because I've heard there's some real fans for Anthony Richardson in the Colts building too.
But I don't think Peyton Manning's pulling any puppet strings with the Indianapolis Colts. I have just too much respect for an entire front office, the GM.
And as much as Ursae respects Manning, I don't think he's making that pick. Okay, I like that answer just because we like to live in the fan fiction world of NFL fandom.
So that's like a fun connect your dots that I appreciate you being like, no, that's stupid because it is. But based off that question, you know, everyone in the league, you talk to all these guys.
How like are there they're set with their draft board? There's no last minute scouting. If a story comes out, like obviously we have, you know, when someone has a week bomb.
Yeah, right. On draft night.
But other than that, like it's kind of set, right? I'd say up until this weekend it wasn't fully set and i'd say by the time you get to monday tuesday you look at your scouts you look at the game for what you get the feeling of you take a deep breath but everyone was working on it this past weekend and like the cardinals guys talked to some folks there and like their comment was yeah we were all together on a flight to norman oklahoma and back you don't think we talked about the draft at all during that time like everyone is it's all hands-on and most of the guys were in the office this weekend not at kids sporting events or whatever else so coaches front offices this was the weekend to kind of firm it all up and just so you know if it happens that the colts do not pick him and they choose somebody else if they don don't choose CJ Stroud, we are still going to say yes. That's because he did not attend the passing game.
And also, the Manning family influence goes far beyond the Colts. Archie Manning runs the NFL.
He's the shadow commissioner. He pulls all the strings going on.
Big Cat brought up the Laramie Tunsil gas mask bong that got dropped on draft night. There are some legal issues for some of these guys that are kind of looming out there early in the first round.
Jalen Carter might be, I don't know, some people have said that he's the best player in the draft. Are people scared at all about the legal situation in Georgia? And is that a possibility that it's going to affect his draft status? Or his draft stock, I should say.
Yeah, I've heard from a couple of teams who are not in the top 10 that Carter is not their guy. So they wouldn't even take him.
Then again, Drew Rosenhaus has been doing this for 30 years. He even said it.
If he's not sending his guy on to interviews outside the top 10, Jalen Carter, for all intents and purposes, is going to go to the top 10. And the way that the draft shakes out, there are so many teams that need that player.
So like the Seahawks at five, Jalen Carter is a perfect fit for them. You go right down to the Eagles at 10, Jalen Carter would be a perfect fit in that defense.
And with them having the luxury of two first round picks and also all those guys in an NFC championship game, like Eagles and Jalen Carter would make a lot of sense. Lions have six and 18.
If the Lions can't get Anderson or Wilson and they're looking at six and it's like, do we take a corner or do we take this guy, Jalen Carter? And we trust that in our building, all the gambling stuff aside from this past weekend, like in our building, we've got the right guys and Dan Campbell and Aaron Glenn, like they can coach him up. I'd be shocked, shocked if Jalen Carter fell into the top 10.
Yeah. It's also very easy for a team that's picking like 19 to say, you know what? If
he falls to us, we're out. We're not going to touch that guy.
Precisely.
It's like me saying like, if Emily Rajkowski asked me out, I'd be like, you know what?
I got dinner plans for my cousin. That's right.
If M-RAT was to be interested in you, you're good. I'm all right.
I'm out. I'm out.
Yeah. Off the record.
Off the record. Don't put it to me.
But yes, off the record. I would also say with Jalen, their Georgia guys have been very positive on him.
And I think they rely on that a lot too. And you think, well, every college is positive on their player.
But apparently Kirby Smart and all those defensive coaches who are really valued around the league have been like this is a good dude and so whether he is or isn't i don't know him but that's he doesn't have the the school being the ones to bury him which we've seen in the past too and yeah and someone will take him like you said like we were laughing the other uh week uh there was a report that teams were nervous uh about stetson bennfield stuff. And it's like, well, no, he just wasn't going to get drafted in the top five rounds.
Like if he was a top five quarterback, he would still get drafted as a top five quarterback. Like this is just how the NFL works.
Yes. Right.
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Yeah. Would it be crazy if the Seahawks took a quarterback? No.
Especially if these things dropped, because I think people, a lot of times when we were in the offseason, the NFL, you see the contract get tweeted by Schefter or Rabport, and then you go on with your life. Gino Smith signed a one-year deal.
He signed a one-year deal. He can make more, but the Seahawks are not tied to him long term.
So it feels like they are a sleeping team out there that's going to possibly take a quarterback and kind of upheaval theaval the draft yeah so it's a one-year deal essentially for 27 million they also signed drew lock for just one year for essentially 4 million so you're saying your quarterback room is 30 million dollars for this year and then it's kind of wide open after that so it goes two ways right the first way is seattle this is a gift they didn't expect to have this pick but the russell wilson trade it's a gift in their lap. They're not going to be in the top five anytime soon because they've got such a young, good roster.
So take the quarterback while he's there, especially if one drops. The other side of it is, wow, the NFC is wide open.
The NFC West is wide open. What if we get an impact player that puts us over the top this year and we trust Geno? They love Gino.
But to your point, he's 32 years old.
He hasn't started before last season for eight seasons.
He signed four one-year contracts up to this one.
I would not be shocked if they went quarterback at five.
But I would think five is such a rich draft pick and they are so loaded with
young players from the draft last year and the year before that if Jalen Carter, Will Anderson, or Tyree Wilson is there, like they're going to go with the young defensive pass rushing. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay.
So who is, you know, the Cardinals obviously most likely to trade, but what else are you hearing? Yeah. If they can, who, who else is like lingering to possibly trade up? And cause that's the best part about the draft where the team just jumps and you're like holy fuck where they come from uh what is like what team is the most aggressive that you know uh or even things you've heard like they're eyeing it if they can find their spot yeah i love when you hear that chime and it's like the pick is in and then the logo changes yeah it's great i think last year there was i could wrong, I think 12 in the first round, 12 trades, which is insane.
So Tennessee has an interesting situation. Tannehill's in a similar deal as Geno where it's like he's under contract.
Malik Willis last year was a project. And then when they needed him most, they signed Josh Dobbs off the street to play in the week 18 game against the Jacksonville Jaguars so I'm not sure their future with Malik Willis and they have a new general manager who kind of has a blank slate on things they just have so many needs at wide receiver at offensive line other places I ran Carthons his name he comes from the 49ers but he was with the Rams before that great dude uh he was Maurice Car's kid.
If you remember the Giants from like the nineties, awesome evaluator of talent, but also might want to put his stamp on things. And I, then again, we talk about connecting the dots.
Vrabel's an Ohio state guy. If Stroud is there at three, maybe they go and they make a big play.
They go and get CJ Stroud. They have their quarterback.
They feel pretty good about it. Or they stay at 11 and one of these guys will be there at 11 and they could be pretty content.
But I think quarterback makes a lot of sense for Tennessee and they're one of those sweet spot teams. You move up a few places.
Another team that I would keep an eye on, and I don't know if they would be able to move all the way up to three, but like Kirk Cousins' contract is done after this year. It's a one-year $35 million deal, essentially.
If the Vikings are looking for the future and one of these guys starts slipping past 10, past 11, past 12, again, new front office, new GM, new head coach. I mean, they're second-year guys.
Maybe they move up and they go and make a move and get one of them. I wouldn't be shocked with that either.
Okay. I like that.
We talk a lot on the show about the commanders, probably too much for any show about the Washington commanders, but there's a real football and draft implication in the ownership change that's happening right now. When it comes to the draft, are they going to have to operate differently at any level because they don't know who the new owner is going to be? That's like Dan's on the way out.
There's a new guy coming in. They don't have his stamp of approval yet to make any significant moves salary-wise or making big splashes.
Is that going to affect how the Washington commanders approached the draft this year? I think naturally I would think whether they would approach it that way or not, there's a feeling of a little bit of, hey, let's win now. It does us all a favor.
Let's get an impact guy who can contribute right away. So I don't see them taking a project quarterback.
I don't see them taking a guy that like Hendon Hooker, who you have to wait a year on. I think they're looking to compete this year with new owners coming who are going to be reanalyzing all this.
And Ron's been through this. When Tepper came in, it was like, all right, new owner.
And okay, I got to deliver. So I have to think he and Martin Mayhew and their staffs are looking to get an impact player, whether that's, you know, and you say, well, they have Brian Robinson, but like, does that mean it's Bijan Robinson? Because you know that he right away can make an impact.
Is it a receiver to go with Dodson and McLaurin where you're like, all right, we got to get more offense? Or is it just a corner that's going to start right away? But I don't see quarterback for them. I don't see any project players.
I think naturally they're going to want to get guys that can play right away. And the guy I put in my mock draft and I got feedback from a lot of people being like, he might not even be the first one off the board.
It's the Utah tight end, Dalton Kincaid, who, again, I'd be lying if I said I watched a ton of Dalton Kincaid during the season I did and but you know what you watch all the tape and all the stuff and you hear some words and he's not Travis Kelsey but he's a really good tight end and the enemy comes in and he knows how to use a tight end so that might make some sense okay so uh what's the one team and player you've heard over and over because it always feels like when we in the draft, there's like one or two picks that everyone can kind of telegraph. It's like, this guy's going to be here and this team is going to take him.
That's why this draft is interesting. So I always have certain teams up top that I feel pretty confident that I know.
Whatever it was, and if it was through Cliff or Con, whatever, I've had the Arizona Cardinals for the last few years. I just knew where they were going, knew their board and, and it was felt pretty good.
Time and time again, I've had got, because Houston's at two and no one in the league knows what they're doing. And because Arizona's at three and has basically put up a billboard to anyone in the league saying, come and get it.
You can't in good faith say, all right, well, I know what Seattle's doing. I know what Detroit's doing because there's going to be such a mix up of the file.
I, you know, and I, I'm curious to see, cause Peter King on Monday mornings has a good article every year draft week, and he's got good stuff too. I'm curious to see what he says.
Cause I have made all the calls over the past few days and to a man, every single one of these GMs is asking me what I'm hearing, but also saying of all the years, this is the least predictable up top because of so much possible action and intrigue. And with two, three, and four, no one having a dartboard pick like, oh, that's the guy for them.
It makes five, six, seven, eight, and beyond pretty much irrelevant. Yeah.
We all know that Jared Goff is the quarterback for the Lions, right? They're not going to take quarterback, right? I don't think they're going quarterback.
Six or 18, I don't think they're going quarterback.
That's my intel.
Good. Good.
He's a great player. We like Jared, right? We like Jared.
No, Jared's our great friend.
What about JSN?
Stone Cold Lock, first wide receiver
off the board? Him or Addison.
And then I know a lot of teams really like
the kid Johnston from TCU who's a bigger body he's like six foot two um the wide receiver class and it's nothing against those guys they can go on to be amazing but just coming into this thing there are no blue chippers there are no top 10 picks it is a different deal than last year where there was like six names that there was a run on them and they were taken basically one by one by one by one starting with drake london there's none of that this year all right so uh we're draft overall by the way yeah three really like star players bryce young bjohn robinson jalen carter and then maybe will anderson makes that and then beyond that like it there's a lot of good players but it's not the draft where it's okay. Micah Parsons and you know, this guy and that guy and Jamar chase.
There's none of that. Yeah.
The, the B. John Robinson is interesting because it feels like everyone has learned their lesson.
Don't draft court. Don't draft running backs like very early in the draft because a lot of these guys don't get second contracts.
Like it just, it's not a position that you want to spend that type of draft capital in uh i do think the bears is a chance they take them i will be mad and then i'll become the biggest bjohn robinson fan ever i will completely be a hypocrite in that respect uh so i like do you think he could go as high what's the highest you've heard bjohn robinson going i've heard i've heard falcons eight to falcons does make sense but they i know it sounds like all right here's this transcendent generational talent but they had a fifth round pick at a byu uh you know tyler algier who ran for a thousand yards last year it's like do you really need that um 10 to the eagles is just interesting because it's a luxury they have so much talent and it's like they just invested in Jalen Hurts. Give this guy the ball for four years.
Look, we're talented everywhere else. It's almost a gift that we have this 10th overall pick, and they can make that.
Like, 10th makes sense to me, to them. But I've heard Robinson and Gibbs, the running back from Alabama, are both first-round picks.
I just don't know where they're going to go. And that's kind of the fun of it.
But yeah, I think anywhere from six to 15 for B. John Robinson.
It's crazy. Detroit has Montgomery and Swift.
So I don't know why they would do that. But I'm just giving you that range.
Right. It's crazy.
I feel like we did learn our lesson. Yeah, we have.
The market hasn't overcorrected yet either. I think the market has just perfectly corrected to understand the value of running backs, especially as Big Cat said it pertains to their contract.
Are there any other running back? Who's the second running back off the board, and when do you expect him to go? Gibbs out of Alabama, Jameer Gibbs. I think he'll go late first.
I could see him going Giants, Cowboys, Chiefs at 31. He's really talented.
He's compared to Kamara and that's not like it's some crazy hyperbole. He's really good.
The thing with it, Saquon was offered $12.5 million at the buy week for multiple years, said no, goes to the contract negotiations. Daniel Jones signs the long-term deal that franchised Saquon.
He's making $10 million now. And it's like no one's crying for Saquon.
It just stinks. It's just what it is.
Austin Eckler goes on Chris Long's show and says, I want to be traded. There's tumbleweeds around the league.
No one even flinches. And Eckler's amazing.
So when Isaiah Pacheco and Jarek McKinnon are carrying the load in a Super Bowl, it's hard to make the argument for a running back in the top 10. Yeah, you mentioned how this draft class is so weird compared to some of the others.
You don't have to answer this right now, but it would be awesome if we could go back and we could put together your starting lineup on offense and defense based off just draft class and see which draft class over the last 10 years would win. We should put in a bracket, actually.
That's a good idea for Billy. We should have Billy do a bracket and then have the results already, but then seed them so they can square off.
Yes, exactly. Yeah, and then he can do hypothetical matches.
Well, this guy's a great left tackle, but he would get his lunch eaten against this one particular guy. Yeah.
Yeah, we'll do that. We will absolutely do that.
It's also interesting. I i mean i think it's just the norm now because uh five quarterbacks will go in the first round can i say that confidently i don't know about hooker you don't know about okay i think four at first like i put hooker all the way up at like 11 in my mock draft last week and a lot of guys in the league were like yeah that's a that's rich um i think the best thing for hooker would be a team trading back into the first round getting the fifth year on him so you have this red shirt year with him and you still get four more years but it is crazy that we went you know it was there's obviously the uh the the famous dan marino john elway draft that was six quarterbacks the first round but other than that it's it's there was five quarterbacks in the 99 draft and then the 2018 draft.
Then there was another one, what, two years ago? Yeah, 2021. So it's now...
Yeah, so we're gonna have like three of the last five years, there'll be five quarterbacks drafted in the first round. That's just what the league is now, I guess.
I guess. And like next year, you know, and again, it's early.
And I remember saying... No, it's never too early.
Don't say that. We actually start putting out our mock drafts for next year before this draft before even beforehand um but i remember the year before matt barkley was drafted in the fourth round everyone the year before was like well you could pass on a quarterback because matt barkley is going to be number one overall you know like it just you don't know right and i think matt barkley is still playing by the way so who am i shut up you know but the um next year's class
there's a kid from north carolina may there's obviously a kid out of usc and then there's a guy up at washington that everyone loves too that those three could be better than all these guys you know so who knows yeah it's true all right so uh without burning any of your sources and pissing anyone off uh i i have a long-standing feeling in all of sports not just the nfl but a lot of there's a lot of front offices where the job is to keep the job and by that i mean they just want to do whatever's safe to make sure that they can keep doing the same job over and over not take big swings not draft someone that then everyone's like what an idiot on the flip side what is the one or two front offices
that you're confidently like
this big swings not draft someone that then everyone's like what an idiot on the on the flip side what is the one or two front offices that you're confidently like they will take the big swing they will be aggressive they are not worried about their job uh they're here to try to win super bowls yeah uh always mickey loomis with the new orleans saints does not give a shit about mock drafts he's been there since the year 2000. He's built Super Bowl winner and Peyton's gone, but Mickey's still there.
They're at the end of the first round. Remember they traded to get Chris Alave last year.
They traded up to get Marcus Davenport a few years ago. He is the most fearless and has carte blanche.
So he's won. The other team that I think could take a really big swing if they wanted to move up to get their guy or to just take the guy at 10 is the Philadelphia Eagles.
I don't think anyone's got more, you know, you talk about a pendulum swinging, whether it's, you know, over the time. But right now I feel like Howie Roseman has the cards in his favor and I feel like they got so close to a Super Bowl that he can make the justification to the owner and to the fans that, hey, I felt like this player, we had to go get him and that's going to put us to win a Lombardi this year.
Yeah, good answers. I didn't think of the Saints.
Well, Saints are irrelevant because they're at the end of the first round. Yeah, but no, you're right.
But that yeah they do do that my favorite tradition on draft day is uh roger getting booed and he's become smart recently he's kind of leaned into a little bit but he also likes it he likes it he likes a little bit too much but my favorite part is when uh when sometimes he'll bring out the human shields to protect himself from boo so he'll have either the troops on stage when he comes out or he'll have
like little kids.
They get walked out with PFT,
PFT.
You gotta,
you gotta say he usually has a troop with like an amputee that he goes
all the way.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're capital T troops.
They are the troops that he brings out.
What do you think he's going to do to shield himself?
He could honestly,
I got it.
I know it already.
Okay.
I don't go first. And then I, I just, I just hit myself with it, but you go first.
Okay. Kansas city.
This is a no brainer. You've got all these celebrities that are like beloved.
You've got Jason Sudeikis is a Kansas city guy, beloved. You've got Eric stone street, Kansas city, beloved.
You've got David Koechner. You go right down the list.
Paul Rudd, all these guys. They're all beloved.
There is a nice win here if he comes out with some of my buddies and he's out there with all these celebrities and no one's going to be booing David Koechner or Jason Sudeikis. I mean, Jason Sudeikis right now has 100% approval rating.
I don't think anyone's booing them, especially in Kansas City. That's how you play that card.
Okay. I agree with you, but I actually think you're right on the money.
There's so many
well-loved celebrities there. What he should do, he should take the one guy that they'll probably
boo and bring him out. And then he'll be like, oh, they're booing.
He should go out on stage
with Jackson Mahomes and have Jackson Mahomes record aiktok on stage right in front of goodell and then he'll be like they're booing this guy not me it's perfect it's perfect jack take it away jackson yeah it goes and it does it and i would love it it'd be great and for the record we're jackson mahomes fans so am i wait we think he's hilarious. I met him at the AFC Championship game last year.
I was on the field before the game, and I got the credential, and I'm acting like a big shot, and there he is. I shot my shot.
I went up to him and said, yo, bro, good to meet you. He's like, thanks, man.
It was cool. He was great.
I loved him. And so now, I mean, everyone wants to knock him.
I think that's such low-hanging fruit. Can you imagine being Jackson Mahomes? That's a tough life, man.
It's also a very funny thing because Patrick Mahomes is like what everyone should aspire to be in terms of like the most loyal family member. Right.
Like he's ride or die with his family. Why are we criticizing that? I'll add one more because I was thinking Jackson Mahomes as well.
What if we had Jackson come out and Brittany Brittany had a champagne bottle, and in the champagne bottle was cash. So she just sprays the whole crowd with cash.
Everyone gets some cash. Perfect.
I still think in Kansas City, though, I think they like Jackson. No, yeah, of course.
So I don't even know if you get those booze that way. I feel like they're fan favorites.
Cheers. We get cheers.
All right. I had one last question, Peter.
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be a rule in the NFL that if you
lose the bet, you can't be also suspended. That should be double jeopardy.
Like, if he lost, that was the thing with Calvin Ridley. Like, the dude was losing parlays.
You shouldn't get suspended for losing parlays. If he was winning, different.
So what happened and how did it go down and how many people ended up getting fired i think oh i think six guys got hit with it and two of them are still on the team i think some of the other guys got cut and then jamison williams is just six games and another guy's just six games the way i read it into it and look i work for the nfl so i have to take a full um you know hr mandatory gambling policy. I don't participate in fantasy football.
I don't participate in March Madness tournaments. And I cannot go into a sportsbook and place, you know, bets as just an employee of the NFL and the players, you know, everyone on Twitter was like, that's such BS because, you know, they've got, they're in bed with all these different gambling companies.
I think the players have to get similar training. They're well aware of it.
And the rule is in the facility, they cannot bet on other sports and they can't log in and they have activation. You could find the IP address and there's all sorts of ways that they can track that.
I believe Miles Austin, who was a Jet, the former Cowboys receiver, was working for the Jets. He too got stung with that during the season, placing a bet on his phone in the facility on another sport.
And the people there were like, I didn't even know that was what, but okay. Like it's what it is.
The rule is the rule. The players are signed on through the CBA that they know the deal.
I think, I don't know if I'm speaking out of term, but like have to go through rigorous training on the gambling policy. So if they did not know it, I guess they got to deal with the consequences.
So can you text Roger, because I know you're close personal friends with him, and just tell him that if it's a losing bet, they shouldn't get suspended. They should also release all the bets.
Like, I want to see what Jameson Williams... Yeah, I want to see if Jameson Williams was like, he was betting on the Reds on a Tuesday afternoon because like if he lost that bet he should not be suspended that's my your thought is they've already they've already lost the money why correct yeah right like you can't it's double jeopardy I think legally it is you've lost you've lost don't also take away their jobs yeah You know, the NFL is pretty strict on the gambling thing.
And they got a beating from all the people and the critics online and all the ex-players. Like, no, wait, hold on a second.
You're going to tell me you're going to take the draft. I think it's a really serious issue.
And they are well-versed. The Players Association knows the rules.
And I think that's just the deal. Peter, I have one last question.
This is from our good friend Memes. He works on the show.
He runs the social for us. Constantly doing Islanders hockey on Twitter though.
Okay, but go on. Let's go.
Yep. Yep.
Huge Isles fan. Huge Jets fan as well.
So he wanted me to ask you if you personally would trade the 13th overall pick for 39-year-old Aaron Rodgers? I would not. Okay.
I would not. I have no assurance that he's with me next year or the year after that.
I would need some sort of conditional situation. I wouldn't give the first-round pick for a 39-year-old quarterback, whoever it is.
And in Rodgers his case, when you say that you're 90% retired before going into the darkness retreat, I think it's kind of tricky for a team to give up a first round pick when you hear that on thing, but they trust me, the jets want Rogers. They cannot wait to have Rogers.
They will get Rogers. My prediction is night two.
It probably goes down and it might involve one of those,
the 42nd or 43rd pick,
which they have back to back and then some other conditional stuff beyond
that.
Okay.
It's so interesting because it seems like neither team has the leverage in
this situation because,
because Aaron's told the Packers,
he doesn't want to play for them.
So the jets know that he is not going to be a Green Bay Packer.
And the Jets –
They don't want Zach Wilson.
Yeah, the Packers know that.
So it seems like Aaron Rodgers is the one with leverage,
and his ultimate leverage is actually just walking away from $50 million,
which isn't that much leverage either.
So it's like a non-leverage game.
Yeah, and I think the interesting thing is why I mentioned that 42nd and 43rd pick it's like the second you get to night three of the draft you're losing an entire year's worth of draft picks that you could trade the packers like the value of next year's picks is way less than this year's because they want their picks to play next season like they want to feel they don't want these fictional you know picks from way down the road so if they don't trade one of those second round picks like this thing could drag on even more i just i just want the packers to take a wide receiver in the first round so badly i think they might oh it'd be the funniest thing ever yeah be a spite pick i want to see a spite pick the way it works like truly the way it's working out like i think all those receivers could be available at 15 they have never taken a receiver or a tight end in all of his years in the first round. And I think they might take a receiver or a tight end.
And yeah, you know what? This doesn't come from the Packers, but the word I've got from a lot of different people is like, look, he goes on McAfee. I thought he was pretty eloquent.
I thought he was pretty good. The Jets loved it.
When you don't thank the GM, when you don't thank the current president like all right like little things like that well we'll take a receiver and we'll make sure jordan love is going to have as much success as possible next season that would be awesome yeah he might be whatever whatever receiver they take i might be the only packer i ever root for in my entire life can you imagine being rogers in the pandemic it's 2020 and you're like right on the cusp you just won the m and they trade up and you're like oh shit we're getting Brandon Ayuk or we're getting Jordan whatever it was and they took a quarterback it's yeah I mean in hindsight it's wild he's like trying to change the channel from the draft and Fauci's on the news and going back to it he's like goddamn this is just not my night not his night Fauci Fauci in the Packers front office, but not his favorite folks. Yes, yes.
All right, well, thank you so much, Peter. We appreciate it.
Good luck on paternity leave after the draft. That was a sneaky genius move by you.
You went paternity leave, then NFL draft, then a little more paternity leave. Left yourself a little something.
Broke it up. A little meat on the bone.
Yeah. I sex yeah it's awesome i found out a few i found out a few weeks ago that we have like like four month paternity leave really no i've got like i get like i i took uh three weeks and then i get two more so i get five weeks which i'm fired up about but four months bro has anyone taken it because there's this whole other part of it where it's like if you actually take the full thing like do you start feeling the itch to get back or do you also work culture yeah yeah yeah no i'm all for a toxic work culture that's why we tell hank never to take a vacation well hank's gonna become a sperm donor just so that he can take four months of maternity leave like five times a year because i was on that third week and it was like it's i i will be i i just am ready to kind of get involved in the nfl mix again yes yes all right well thanks so much man appreciate it and uh good luck on all the draft stuff you got going on on thursday you guys are awesome pft my condolences to you i thought what you said at the start of the podcast last week was beautiful and spoke to a lot of people.
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All right. I'm going to wrap it up with lottery ball.
I also Max has a Max Slepwalk. Max Slepwalk.
Did you get incepted in sleepwalking? I don't know. We have been talking a lot about sleepwalking in the past couple weeks.
So it was strange that it happened when it did. And what happened? By the way, the Oilers just tied it up 4-4.
And the Timberwolves are going to not get swept.
So retract what I said about them getting swept.
Let's go Wolves.
They're back.
Max, you sleptwalk?
Yeah, it was bad.
It was not the best situation of sleepwalking.
Last night, I woke up. I slept at my girlfriend's apartment, woke up, went to bed in her bed, woke up in her roommate's bed with her.
With her roommate. No! Max! Max! Wait, did you pee anywhere? No, there was no peeing.
There was no cuddling. But I did wake up.
I woke up at 830 this morning and I looked up and I was like, this is weird. Am I sleeping? Wait, you slept the whole night? The whole night.
Oh, my God. With my girlfriend's roommate.
This is a great excuse. Oh, my God.
You still have a girlfriend? This is a great excuse, Max. No, it actually wasn't a big deal at all.
So what happened when you woke up? So I woke up and I look at the ceiling. I was like, this is weird.
I know I slept here and I just turned over and I was like, oh my God. And luckily, she's great.
We're friends. Shout out Meg.
I mean mean you sleep in the same bed with her and i just i just looked at her i was like what the fuck am i doing in here and she's like you tell me brother wait did your girl were you able to get back to your bed yeah no i was she woke up your girlfriend woke up no no i i went immediately was like, I just slept in Meg's bed all night, I guess.
Was she already awake when you woke up?
No, she was asleep, but I...
I mean, I was like...
That's gotta be the worst case scenario.
That's it.
That's horrendous.
Poor Meg.
But I thought she was gonna be like...
She was pretty much on phase.
She stayed asleep the entire time.
I was like, what the fuck am I doing in here? She was like, I don't know. And then just continued sleeping.
Were you farting? I was definitely snoring. You was farting.
I was probably farting too. Did you pee? You farted so much.
No, I did not pee. I did not pee.
That would have been a lot. Oh, my God, Max.
That's so bad. Yeah, no.
That's how bad you're thinking about Hank and the Celtics, that you're just sleepwalking. The soul patch is two months.
How do you think Meg would have felt if she woke up next to a beardless guy with a soul patch? Would that have changed anything? Also, this is so crazy that Max, like, for all the tough talk he's had, you know, when the Sixers went ahead of the Celtics for those couple days and we leaned into it, the two months is only if you get swept. You clearly think you're going to get swept.
Well, I don't know what the MVP, you don't even know what he's like right now. He's gassed.
I tell you one thing. Gas is the wrong word.
It's out of shape. Gas is the wrong word.
You think you're going to get swept?
I don't think that they're going to get swept, but I am scared.
How do you feel about Doc Rivers' comments about the MRI?
No, that's Doc.
He's a 50-50?
No, he's doing a little mind games.
He wants the Celtics.
Yeah.
Come on.
Or the Hawks.
That's the other thing.
A bad MRI?
You said a bad MRI?
A sprained knee is nothing.
You said a bad MRI? A sprained knee is nothing. You said a bad MRI? I could have a sprained knee right now.
Well, you probably do. You are an NBA player.
Yeah. What does that prove? Dude, I'll sprain my knee right now.
I swear to God. I'll fucking do it.
I've been sitting here producing this whole podcast
with a sprained knee. I wouldn't say anything
about it. My toe.
I could have a sprained toe right now.
Easily. So we did the MRI.
It just feels like whenever they tell a coach we're
going to get an MRI, it doesn't turn out well most
of the time. And this one did not.
Oh no, Max.
He's
going to be fine. The best part about all this is when he
got injured. We were tech because Max was at the game.
We're like, and Bede's injured. And he's like, no, he's not.
part about all this is when he got injured we were tech because max was at the game we're like and beads injured and he's like no he's not you guys are lying turns out we were right well you know you were trying to lie no you weren't you know i said he was injured and that you guys you guys were just fuck with me that entire game turns out we were exactly right yeah not like not really though this is going back to the same thing with the ucla like. He was injured.
He had a sprained knee. This is not the UCLA.
He had a sprained knee when I texted you. No, no.
No, he literally had it. We were waiting for the MRI.
We've already seen the MRI. He literally had a sprained knee when he sprained his knee, and then I texted you.
The MRI doesn't sprain his knee.
But
when you texted me the UCLA thing
we hadn't seen the MRI.
He was towards the Achilles.
It's the same thing. I don't think you understand how injuries
work. When you get injured, you're injured.
The MRI just confirms that you were injured.
Correct. But he was injured.
I said he's injured.
Yes. And we've already discussed that.
Embiid beat is hurt he's not injured okay bad mri not about it wait did doc say when he said this time it did not was he saying this time it did not deliver bad news like he's yeah i was thinking that too good point bfd no yeah say it read the quote again. There was swelling already, which was too early, so we did the MRI.
It just feels like whenever they tell a coach we're going to get an MRI, it doesn't turn out well most of the time. And this one did not.
So that might be like this one did not turn out badly. Give me this quote.
Let me see this quote. That's a tough quote.
Doc needs to clean it up. He was complaining about some soreness behind him.
It was always scary to think about his behind him. There was swelling already, which is too early, so we did the MRI.
It just feels like whenever they tell a coach we're going to get an MRI, it doesn't turn out well most of the time, and this one did not. Huh.
I honestly have no idea. I think it's a bad MRI.
I think it's a bad MRI. The fact that we're talking for this long about an MRI makes me believe it's probably not a good MRI.
No, he could have stubbed his toe when you guys would have been talking about this for this long. This was an MRI.
I mean, he just falls so much. But he does it on purpose max i've already said doing that no it's better it's better that he falls wait fact or fiction would you get an mri if you weren't hurt like a recreational mri just to just check it out actually i would just i'd like to see like what's going on like a full body scan.
Out of sight, out of mind.
But wait, if he keeps falling and you're like,
it's better that he's falling, but he keeps getting hurt,
maybe he should try to stop falling?
No, the falling is good.
But he keeps getting hurt.
But you don't know what it would be like if he didn't fall.
It couldn't be worse than always getting hurt.
It could be worse. He played basically the whole year this year.
The timing of it sucks. I'm not going to deny that.
It happens every year at this time. I know, and that sucks, and that's unfortunate.
But everyone's getting hurt this playoffs, all right? Why is it just Embiid? Whatever. Oh, man.
The falling is good. The falling is good.
That is the thing. Memes and I were watching a video on it earlier today.
Memes, back me up. What, the one that was like the MVP? This is the MVP.
This is disgusting for the league, and it was just a flop compilation? No. It's not a flop.
He chooses to fall because it's better for his body. See, you wouldn't understand.
You don't get it. You.
You don't get it, Hank. You don't get it, Hank.
I love this, Hank, because Max is so flustered. He has no answers, and Hank's just fucking...
He's not even doing anything. He's just stating facts, and it just puts him in a tailspin.
That's all I ever do. That's true.
That's what I've been saying. Thank you.
I've always said that you just
say facts. No looks, just
facts. No fiction.
Right. Just facts.
And people keep coming at you.
Just facts. It's bullshit.
76 for three. Yeah.
I hope Hank
gets a lottery ball today.
Thank you, Max. He's gaslighting.
That's not true. Don't let him do that.
No, it wasn't.
That was gaslighting.
Okay. Hank, have you genuine.
No, it wasn't. That was gaslighting.
Okay.
Hank, have you ever gotten this?
Nope.
I am not rooting for you to get this.
I am.
Numbers.
16, 17, 20.
I can see it right here.
18, 76.
18.
One.
One.
What should I go with? What has Hank been going with? 99. Last two have been double numbers.
55. One.
What should I go with?
What has Hank been going with?
99.
Last two have been double numbers, 55-99.
In April, we've also seen 77 twice.
I'll go 66.
I feel like this angle of it, Hank, you should get it way more often than you do.
That's what he thinks.
It's a hot seat.
21.
21.
That's closer than usual, Hank.
Yeah, you're kind of close.
Four off.
You should celebrate that one.
Nah.
Why not?
Nah. Eighth time.
Why not? Nah.
Eighth time.
Time for a second.
Eighth time?
I should just start guessing 21.
We should all should.
You think about guessing 21 next time?
I won on 21 once.
This doesn't count.
Come back from base.
No, can we make it count? Nope.
I hope the second team is so bad.
35.
Doesn't count.
Love you guys.
Yeah, we'll see everyone on Wednesday.
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Love you guys. Love to get you.
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But I need some
A little way
Stumbling the fight is okay
Say after me
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