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Speaker 1 And Dylan Brooks touched LeBron James' penis. He touched his penis, PFT.

Speaker 4 Right in the penis.

Speaker 1 Right in the penis.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but he's a villain. He got over-penalized because he's a villain now, according to Dylan Brooks.
He just kind of like made himself a villain. He just said, you know what?

Speaker 4 I feel like becoming a villain this postseason. So he's kind of following his,

Speaker 4 he's calling his shot and then he's following up on it. And yeah, he went right at him.
That seemed like that was definitely intentional, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was. You can't touch another man's penis.
I just like calling it penis. I use that as a caption.
Everyone was like, what the fuck? How'd you?

Speaker 1 It is one of those things that, you know, when you get a when someone hits someone in the dick, you say dick, but when you say penis, it sounds like something way more egregious.

Speaker 1 Like, he touched LeBron James's penis.

Speaker 4 He did. He did.
It was sus as hell.

Speaker 4 And actually, you could make the argument that since Dylan Brooks doesn't think that LeBron James is a man, he didn't know that he was going to hit him in the penis.

Speaker 4 He was trying to hit him in the labia. Yes.
He missed and made contact with his dick.

Speaker 1 So, Dylan Brooks, you just said it, but I'll say it even

Speaker 1 with more of my chest. Dylan Brooks is an all-time fraud.
He is a fraud. He's a fake, tough guy.
His quote afterwards, so he did two things. One, well, he did three things.

Speaker 1 He hit LeBron James in the penis. Then he got ejected and afterwards said he didn't want to talk to the media.
Then in shootaround on

Speaker 1 Sunday, he said,

Speaker 1 The media is making me a villain. The fans making me a villain.
That just creates another persona on me. Talking about his flagrant two

Speaker 1 call in game three.

Speaker 1 Dude, dude you did all of this you decided that you wanted to be a villain you have been wearing like you know you you dresses like stone cold steve austin one game you know in the regular season you are an agitator you told lebron james he's old you said you don't respect him until he puts 40 on him draymond green whatever you want to say about him at least backs up everything he says pat beverly backs up what he has to say Dylan Brooks, basically the first sign of things like, oh,

Speaker 1 maybe people don't like me. He He folded and was like, it's all your guys' fault.
It's none of my fault. Fuck that.

Speaker 1 You are the reason why we think you're a villain, which I like, by the way, because I like sports having villains.

Speaker 1 But you have to at least own up to the fact that not only did you touch LeBron James in the penis, but you also shot your team out. They scored nine points in the first quarter.

Speaker 1 Dylan Brooks went three for 13 in 19 minutes of game time. He's not a shooter, and he was like, I'm going to try to win this game myself.

Speaker 4 Dylan Brooks, like, say what you do, just fucking stand up for yourself and be like yeah i i touched his penis and next game i'm gonna make sure he you he scores less than 20 or something like that lean into it you are a complete fraud when it comes to this stuff next time touch his penis more than once yeah keep it keep touching it till it gets hard that's how i'll know that you're about that life yeah brooks be a man about it dylan brooks he's you're right he's tried too hard to become a villain and now he's he's running away from the villain reputation because it's penalizing him if you're a real villain like draymond you get penalized for being a villain and you love it.

Speaker 4 You love that shit. Right.
He doesn't. He's not, you can't, you can't also, you can't just say like, I'm a villain now.
That's too, it's, you have to demonstrate a body of work to become a villain.

Speaker 4 And he hasn't done that yet. Yeah, he's not, he's not built up the rap sheet necessary to become a true villain.

Speaker 4 Like it's, if, if Jake said that he was a villain because he repeatedly beats Hank at golf over and over and over again, then I'll buy that.

Speaker 4 But you can't just say it like one time because he beat him one time at golf.

Speaker 1 Right. Right.

Speaker 1 Right. Right, exactly.
Right. So you admit, Jake beats you over and over.
Yeah. Has he ever touched the Venus?

Speaker 5 No. Okay.

Speaker 1 You had to pause there for a second. Wait, well, I touched your Venus.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, you did. You touched his Venus.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you touched his Venus.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So Dylan Brooks, I mean, the Grizzlies,

Speaker 1 I didn't think they had a shot in that game just because you poked the bear, you poked LeBron James, but then coming out and scoring nine points in the first quarter, was that the lowest?

Speaker 1 That was the lowest in a playoff playoff game, right? Nine points in the first quarter.

Speaker 1 We talked about it a couple weeks ago, the biggest like margins and how they're not all created equally. 35 to 9 was game over.

Speaker 1 That was the largest margin I've ever seen on a basketball court after the first quarter. And LeBron, he didn't put up 40, so I guess that's what Dylan Brooks should have said.

Speaker 1 He'd have been like, I'll talk to the media. Okay.
Let me see. Did LeBron put 40? No.
Okay, still don't respect him. Do that.
Well, because

Speaker 4 Dylan got kicked out of the game so then lebron's like i don't need to put 40 on him anymore this guy's already out of here he wasn't he wasn't scoring 40 anyway he was at like maybe 18 points when it happened

Speaker 1 but he still could have he could have he could have but still he like lean into it and say that lebron didn't score 40 and so yeah they won but you don't respect him Have you heard this one, Big Cat?

Speaker 4 Have you heard about this one? He said Dylan Brooks said that he wanted to play Cleveland or Miami LeBron, but he ended up playing Bangkok LeBron.

Speaker 1 Oh, nice. Did you hear about that one?

Speaker 5 That's a great one. Celtic scored seven points in a first quarter.

Speaker 1 Oh, you just looked it up because it triggered something in your memory, didn't it? Yeah. When was that?

Speaker 5 Isaiah Thomas era against the Hawks. Oh, Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 Seven is in a first quarter? In a first quarter. Because that's the thing is if it happens in a third quarter, it doesn't matter because you're looking at the score.

Speaker 1 It's like, oh, they have 48 points or something. But in the first quarter, when it just sits out there, it's brutal.

Speaker 4 Yeah, if it happens in the third quarter, it's like, well, they went on a huge run in the third. Yeah.
But if it happens at the start of the game, it's like, well, this game's over already.

Speaker 1 Either way, that game,

Speaker 1 Lakers, we knew like Anthony Davis played pissed off because he got embarrassed in game two. And then we had John Morant just go absolutely nuclear in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 And I was sitting there being like, yeah, maybe if Dylan Brooks didn't shoot 13 times in 19 minutes and your best player.

Speaker 1 you know, had the ball a little bit more, the Grizzlies might have been in this game because he was sensational. I think he ended up with like 45.
He scored like 20 in the fourth, I think.

Speaker 1 So it was, I, this series is fun, though. I hope that Dylan Brooks stops being a pussy and starts just being a villain again and not being like, woe is me.

Speaker 4 He actually reverse psyched out himself by telling LeBron, like, you got to give, he's got to give me 40. He made himself try to go out there and give LeBron 40.
Right.

Speaker 4 That's, that's the mindset that he was in, which is, that's how you know he's not about that life, really.

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Speaker 1 The fact that the Clippers and the Lakers had a home game on the same day blew my mind in a playoffs. Like, I think they might do it regular season, but like playoffs is a lot of stakes.

Speaker 1 Like, what if you, what if you put one of the floorboards in wrong? LeBron gets hurt. Can't have that.

Speaker 7 We're watching the LA Kings right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and we're watching it. Yeah, they had four playoff games in like 48 hours.

Speaker 4 Do we get a sick-ass time-lapse video of the floor becoming ice? It was awesome. It was you know, that's my that's my favorite part of the the postseason is when they do those time lapses.

Speaker 4 It's incredible.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 the sick

Speaker 1 time-lapse was the Clippers going to the Lakers as quickly as possible. Because

Speaker 1 it was literally like three hours in between both games.

Speaker 4 I've never even heard of that time lapse.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was awesome.

Speaker 1 When I realized the Clippers and Lakers were both playing home games on the same day, I was like, just give me the time lapse. Let's just go to the time lapse.
And

Speaker 1 it delivered. It absolutely delivered.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's talk some other games. We should talk about

Speaker 1 Max, your Sixers,

Speaker 1 take care of business, clean sweep of the nets.

Speaker 1 Should we do The Hurt or Injured by Morgan and Morgan, America's number one law firm? Is Joel Embiid hurt or injured?

Speaker 1 He's hurt.

Speaker 1 It's just hurt. You said he wasn't, though.
No. I mean, if I'm choosing between hurt or injured,

Speaker 1 I'm going with hurt. Hurt.
Okay, PFT, what do you think?

Speaker 4 I think he's always hurt. So this means because he's extra hurt, he's injured now.

Speaker 5 Yeah, aren't the playoffs about playing hurt?

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 he would have played if it wasn't a meaningless game.

Speaker 1 Have you guys, have the Sixers thought about maybe telling Joel Embiid the season starts January 1st?

Speaker 1 Because it does feel like every year we get to exactly this point in the calendar and he gets hurt. Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 he was pretty much healthy all year.

Speaker 1 Timing

Speaker 1 is unfortunate.

Speaker 1 Yeah, timing's unfortunate, but we'll have a week to get ready for for the next series. Could be the Hawks.
Who knows? Um,

Speaker 1 and he'll be ready to go. I know Docs would give him the whole 50-50 that he's going to play.
He's not going to play. He's going to fucking play.
Well, if he doesn't play, B-Ball Paul was awesome.

Speaker 1 Double-double.

Speaker 1 Go buy the shirts, by the way. We're actually collabing with B-ball Paul.
So we have shirts in the Barstool store with B-Ball Paul.

Speaker 1 Other things from this game were Denzel Spencer Din Shitty finishes the season 0-4 0-4 after being called Spencer Din Shitty.

Speaker 1 He may never win a game again, PFT.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's one of those where

Speaker 4 if I watch Spencer Dinwiddie play, I'm like, this guy's pretty good.

Speaker 4 He takes a lot of shots, and he's the focal point of that offense at times. But if you actually play with him, you realize like this dude, we cannot win with this guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's Spencer Dinshitty. I also have a quote for you that I'd love for you to take a guess who said.

Speaker 1 The quote is, watching my team get swept, hurt, and I don't ever want to feel that way again.

Speaker 1 Hmm.

Speaker 4 I'm going to say, watching my team get swept, hurt, and I don't want to ever feel that way again.

Speaker 4 I am going to go with Rob Thompson. Okay.

Speaker 1 It was

Speaker 1 Ben Simmons.

Speaker 1 And he said it in.

Speaker 4 I fucked up. I was thinking baseball.
You were thinking baseball. I went to to the Phillies.
Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 It was Ben Simmons. He said it in 2020.
And since that quote, he's watched his team get swept two out of the last three years.

Speaker 4 Well, he only watched two of the sweeps this time because he didn't go on the road and watch the games in Philadelphia.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, no, but he saw this one.
Yeah, live because

Speaker 1 the sweep technically happened in front of him.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah, the last game did. I'm curious, Max, were you close enough to throw something at Ben Simmons?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 It's just, it's the perfect quote because literally he was like, yeah, I don't, like, trying to pump himself up, like, I don't ever want to be back here.

Speaker 1 And now he's watched two teams in back-to-back years of his get swept.

Speaker 4 You know what a good way for him to prevent that would be is if he played.

Speaker 1 Yeah, maybe. They could have probably used it.

Speaker 4 Pretty simple fix.

Speaker 1 They probably could have used it. Oh, you don't think you would have had a difference?

Speaker 4 He sucks.

Speaker 1 He wasn't even getting time when he was healthy. Who is your favorite player on the Sixers right now? Is it Tyrese Maxie? Yeah.
Easy. Yeah.
He's been awesome. He's my guy.

Speaker 1 I mean, he's also so fun and such a personable guy. And he's so good.
He's so fast. So strong.

Speaker 1 He's so strong. What else? His hair smells good.
I bet it does. He's the best.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Great smile. Great.
Great smile. Great smile.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so the Nets are done. Thank God that we could just get rid of them.
I don't, there's nothing really,

Speaker 1 nothing to say about the Nets. I don't even know.

Speaker 1 How many Nets fans right now are just watching the Knicks and being like, fuck,

Speaker 1 I really should have just, I should have just been a Knicks fan.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, the only thing that the Nets have to root for now is just hoping maybe KD gets the Suns lose the first series somehow. Yeah.
Some way.

Speaker 1 And the Knicks somehow blow a 3-1 lead to Cleveland.

Speaker 4 Yeah, they need a double 3-1 lead blown right now.

Speaker 1 All right, so the Knicks Cavs, let's talk about it. I went to the game on Friday night.
The Mecca was electric.

Speaker 1 I got on side talk, PFT,

Speaker 1 the guys who interview people after games, the bing-bong and everything.

Speaker 1 I don't know if they'll ever put my clip in. I just hushed the whole entire crowd, and then I was like, I don't give a fuck about the Knicks, but I just hit my nuclear warhead missile play,

Speaker 1 and then everyone lost it. Because I think it was a great setting because you could say literally anything, and everyone will go crazy.

Speaker 1 Like you could just be like, fuck the Pope, and everyone would be like, oh shit, that was awesome. It was, it was a great audience.

Speaker 4 People in New York lose their mind over the Knicks, which I love.

Speaker 4 I hope they keep going through the playoffs because I just want to spend time. I'll take the traffic jams outside MSG.

Speaker 4 It's just good to see the city pretend to be happy about something for a little bit. I actually bet you like the mayor approval rating goes up when the Knicks are winning in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 They would have fucking loved de Blasio. That's the problem with de Blasio.

Speaker 4 Everyone hated him, but maybe if the teams won occasionally, they would be like, you know, this guy's a pretty fucking good mayor. Things are going pretty good.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
It was,

Speaker 1 this series is like, I don't understand the Cavs. They can't rebound, even though they have Evan Mobley and Jared Allen.
And the Knicks, like, Julius Randall has just been garbage.

Speaker 1 And the Knicks still look so much better than them, which if you're a Knicks fan, you're probably saying to yourself, if Julius Randle isn't, I think he scored seven points today.

Speaker 1 Even watching him on Friday night, he loves doing the spin move and then missing threes. That's like his two favorite things to do.
And the Knicks are winning without him playing well.

Speaker 1 And it's all thanks to Jalen Brunson and Josh Hart, who I Josh Hart was awesome today. I saw a video, and Josh Hart has to play well because Josh Hart went on J.J.

Speaker 1 Reddick and Tommy Alters podcast, and then they did a shoot around after. J.J.
Reddick's eight-year-old son beat Josh Hart in a three-point contest. That rocks.
Yeah. So he's got a.

Speaker 1 How is that possible?

Speaker 1 It was crazy. I don't got wet.
It was nice.

Speaker 4 I fully believe that JJ Reddick's son could be.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I mean, if anyone's son could be that good, but eight years old, I feel like NBA players don't miss if there's no defense.

Speaker 1 I watched the video.

Speaker 1 They weren't NBA threes, so maybe he could be like, oh,

Speaker 1 but it was crazy. An eight-year-old.

Speaker 4 Was he playing with a regulation ball?

Speaker 1 Yeah, regulation ball. He said something, he mumbled something about how he had just played the day day before and had to guard Jamal Murray.
But it's like, dude, he's eight. He's eight years old.

Speaker 4 That rocks. That rocks so hard.
So full disclosure, I didn't get a chance to watch this game on Friday dealing with other stuff. Same thing with the most recent game.

Speaker 4 But I did watch an electric highlight of the game, which was Donovan Mitchell missing another three-pointer. Yeah.
I think he went like, what, 0 for 9 at one point?

Speaker 4 He just kept shooting and he kept missing. And the crowd just kept cheering louder and louder with every single single miss that he had.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he had an airball on Friday night, like a true old-fashioned airball.

Speaker 1 Like, just missed the whole, whole, like, not like a, like, maybe, oh, maybe there was someone close that maybe, like, tipped it. It was just missed the whole fucking thing.

Speaker 4 There's something about a crowd that I absolutely love when they cheer harder for their opponent's demise than they do for their own victories at times.

Speaker 4 And it felt like the crowd was catching fire every time he missed a shot. So that, that was awesome.

Speaker 4 I'd also like to put my hand up because I made a lot of fun of the New York Knicks and their fans when they were going all in on Brunson and they were acting like Brunson was about to be their savior this offseason because they didn't hit on like the two first guys that they were going after right when free agency started.

Speaker 4 And I was like, oh, you guys are settling on Brunson right now. Leo, like that guy's going to get you guys some playoff wins.
I was wrong. Hand up.
Man enough to admit it. I was very wrong.

Speaker 4 I'd like to apologize to the entire city of New York.

Speaker 1 Well, that's the funniest part about them going after Donovan Mitchell is that's who they wanted too. They wanted Donovan Mitchell.
He's from New York, and they were like, yeah, Donovan Mitchell.

Speaker 1 Jalen Brunson is incredible. I love, like, he, his game is just so old school, and every 10, 12 footer is like a layup for him.
And also, we should say R.J.

Speaker 1 Barrett, who has been pretty much maligned, I'd say, because he signed a big deal and has not lived up to it, has like played very well in this series. So the Knicks, they're fun.

Speaker 1 That crowd was one of the top crowds I've been a part of. Like it was loud from the first tip all the way through the game, just very into the game.

Speaker 1 It was good to see the Knicks like good again.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I've been to a few games at MSG. I don't think I've been to a Knicks game there.

Speaker 4 I've been to a bunch of Rangers games there, but every time they do the celebrity camera in the audience, every time I've been there, Christopher Maloney from Law and Order, that's like the first guy that they show.

Speaker 4 And the pop that guy gets is fucking intense.

Speaker 1 Yeah, big time. I think I'm trying to think who it was Justin Tuck.
Uh, Fat Joe did a concert at halftime that ruled.

Speaker 4 Um, I'm trying to think who else was Chris Christie's always mowing around there, clogging up the aisles. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I feel like the Sunday, the Sunday afternoon game brings out all the stars because they like Ben Stiller was there today. Uh, there was a bunch of people, yeah, Davidson, yeah, Pete Davidson.

Speaker 1 They, they, they pack it, and it was, it was an awesome crowd. Like, I have to admit, it was a fucking, I got there, like, maybe 20 minutes early, and there was a couple dudes.

Speaker 1 I was doing the game time ad read.

Speaker 1 There were these two dudes who looked like they had been sitting there for like five hours just drinking beers, like $13 beers, just getting ready.

Speaker 1 Because they, like, one of them came over to ask for a picture, and he almost fell down all the steps. And this was before the game.
And I was like, good job, guys.

Speaker 1 Like, this is, yeah, this is what playoff basketball should be about.

Speaker 4 No, it's such a flux to get drunk on $15 beers.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 Okay. Other series.
The Clippers' sons, all I have is that

Speaker 1 Russell Westbrook is the real winner.

Speaker 1 He's like, I can't believe that we're at a point where we're watching a playoff series and we're saying, like, could you imagine how bad the Clippers would be if they didn't have Russell Westbrook?

Speaker 1 He's just trying so hard and actually playing well while Kawhi and Paul George sit on the bench and the Clippers' dream team is, they're in the running for like biggest bust of a dream pairing ever, right?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, just considering that neither one has really played together. Like, they haven't played together as a unit, especially in the postseason.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 4 yeah, I mean, I just, I felt like it was a good team that they were assembling because like Kawhi, how can you miss with Kawhi? He's proven that he can like be a superstar in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 He's played on some bad teams that he was like still motivated to play on at times before his

Speaker 4 mysterious quad injury on the Spurs. It felt like this was a good move for the Clippers.
But yeah,

Speaker 4 it's got to be super, super disappointing. And now he's probably going to be out.

Speaker 4 It wouldn't surprise me if he was out for the rest of the series, if he missed the next game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, it's just one more game, most likely. And it's also.

Speaker 4 But you do have a good excuse, though, at the same time, if you're a Clippers fan.

Speaker 4 You have the injured excuse. You have the Kawhi got injured excuse, which is always, it's good to have.

Speaker 4 And that's what really Clippers fans have been great at having throughout their long-storied playoff history.

Speaker 4 But it's it's always good to be able to be like, if Kawhi had played, we win that series.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mushed him when I said that he was a face at

Speaker 1 load management and then hasn't played since. I also, there is a certain, some franchises are just cursed.
Like the Vikings are cursed, right?

Speaker 1 There's different, I mean, the Cubs were cursed for 100 years, right? The Clippers are cursed. Because if you told the Clippers fan that we would be in the year 2023

Speaker 1 and you would have had Kawhi Leonard and Paul George sign with your team, and Chris Paul, who's 38 years old, is hitting big shots in the fourth quarter to like put another, you know, to end your team and end your season.

Speaker 1 They'd be like, well, how'd this happen? You know what I mean? Like, Chris Paul,

Speaker 1 best clipper of all time, probably. I don't know.
I don't know the whole history of the clippers.

Speaker 1 Blake and Chris Paul. Blake is my

Speaker 1 Baron Davis, but you, and he did it a couple years ago or whatever it was.

Speaker 4 Yeah, two years ago when Paul George almost took him to the finals and the and the Suns beat him then like this is just as tortured as torture gets where you have the guy who played for your team for so many years so many like agonizing playoff losses now he's on the other side and you're still doing the same thing you're just losing in agonizing fashion and again Chris Paul looks fantastic and it would be an utter disappointment if he didn't win a championship this year like complete complete career defining disappointment if he didn't at least get like he's got to get to the finals and he's got to play all the the games of the finals and if he does not win i'd i'd say like write him off he's a he's a yeah butt guy at that point and kd's doing exactly what i would do by the way he's saying i wish kawaii was playing i really do because it would be so much more fun if i was getting to compete against their best players i i wish so bad that he was out i would do that all day if i was playing against a team that was injury riddled i'd just be like oh man this sucks it doesn't even feel like i'm winning i'm sorry guys yeah yeah no it's the it it drives me nuts when guys say it, but I absolutely would say the same thing.

Speaker 1 Like, man,

Speaker 4 100%. Really, really wish that.
Also,

Speaker 4 did you see the news about Kawhi's sister?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was kind of crazy.

Speaker 4 It's kind of crazy. I just want to say, like, they should not be.
So Kawhi's sister got arrested for murder.

Speaker 1 No, she got.

Speaker 1 She got convicted of murder.

Speaker 4 Convicted of murder. Excuse me.
Got convicted of murder. And they're using Kawhi Leonard's face as the picture in every news article about his sister getting convicted of murder.

Speaker 4 I think that should be against the law.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, they're basically being like, they're not even saying her name. They're just saying sister of Kawhi Leonard

Speaker 1 convicted of murder for beating up

Speaker 1 an old lady in a casino in 2019.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 4 it's a pretty, it's a crazy story, but they should not have Kawhi's face on as like the headline of that. You'd stand up for my man Kawhi there.

Speaker 1 I agree. I agree.

Speaker 1 Okay, heat bucks.

Speaker 1 All I had for this one was this is just the curse series. Everyone's hurt.
Jimmy Butler got hurt. Very Ola Depot, I think, like, tore his knee again, which is out for this.
Yeah, he's out. Terrible.

Speaker 1 He might be out.

Speaker 4 He's out for forever.

Speaker 4 That's Patello.

Speaker 1 You could tell, too, everyone, like all the players and everyone was just like, you know, towel over their head, you know, shaking up because this guy fought so hard to come back and now he looks like he's back to square one.

Speaker 1 Giannis obviously hasn't played since game one. Duncan Robinson, what? Hero too.
Hero. Yeah.
Yeah. Like every this, I actually don't know what's going, like, what, how is this happening?

Speaker 1 This entire series is cursed.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 it's been crazy to watch.

Speaker 4 The torrent patella, that's in terms of reactions from guys that are on the court or on the field when an injury happens, I'd say that the torrent patella is always the worst.

Speaker 4 People just like cover their heads, like you said, they start puking. The guy starts like screaming.
I remember when Victor Cruz tore his. Yep.
That was a bad scene. That's probably the worst one.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's bad.
And then the one positive of this series is our guy, Duncan Robinson, is back. He's out of Spose, Doghouse.
He scored 20 points. He went five or six from three.

Speaker 1 It's good because he's getting shit on. We have his back.
We should cash it.

Speaker 7 The Lord has been trashing him all season. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Look, you get the platform. He's taking advantage.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, put him on the bottom. Oh, they're trashing him for being a podcaster?

Speaker 7 No, they're trashing him for his like

Speaker 4 bad contract.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's not. I thought, yeah.

Speaker 4 They're trashing his podcast for platforming Duncan Robinson on his podcast.

Speaker 7 Okay, because you're paying him this and he's not doing anything.

Speaker 1 Well, that's not.

Speaker 7 Look, they let him do something.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Also, I never

Speaker 1 blame a player for their contract.

Speaker 1 No, not at all.

Speaker 4 No, how many more injuries do we have to go through until Haslam starts getting some minutes? That's the real question.

Speaker 1 I think he, did he get in? He played two minutes. He played two minutes on Saturday night.
So to answer your question, we're there. That's how it is.
We're there. Awesome.
That's how cursed this is.

Speaker 4 That's how you know. I want Haslam to start at some point.
I don't want anybody to get... We never root for injuries.
God forbid.

Speaker 4 But I would say that we're probably like one injury away at this point from him starting a game. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's an insane series. Jimmy Butler still is like such a good player, but hopefully

Speaker 1 he also feels like a guy who gets injured in. I feel like the last few playoffs, he's missed a couple of games here and there.
So let's just turn injuries off. Turn them off.

Speaker 1 And Bi, we can't even... That just happens.

Speaker 1 That's like you wake up in the morning and you take a shit. And Bi gets injured.
It doesn't happen as much as.

Speaker 5 I think you're thinking of him running out of gas.

Speaker 1 That's what usually happens when a guy's just right in a condition at the end of the year.

Speaker 5 So he just doesn't play well.

Speaker 1 You're right.

Speaker 1 He's confused.

Speaker 4 He also just acts like he's injured all the time. Like for five seconds after most plays, Embiid will have that look on his face where he grimaces and you're like, oh shit, oh shit, this is bad.

Speaker 1 PFT, the tension between Hank and Max is building to such a perfect level.

Speaker 1 Like it's not all the way there yet because Hank still has to beat the Hawks, but like the little chirps and stuff have started and it's fucking great. It's everything I've wanted.
I'm so excited.

Speaker 1 Me too.

Speaker 4 I've noticed Hank has had huge rivalries with everybody in this room. You just keep cycling through us.
You keep bouncing from one to the other.

Speaker 4 And Max versus Hank, that's a rivalry I think that's going to top all of them.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I mean, that one goes back. I mean, even before Max was on the show, we talked a lot of shit in the office.
This is just a continuation on this program.

Speaker 1 Max also, the latest, says he didn't want, I said there has to be a sweep clause in the upcoming Celtic Sixers series.

Speaker 5 Max was talking, Max was drunk the other night.

Speaker 1 So group texts, I think. Just being like, oh, the Celtics lost a real shame.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, that's where it's really going down.
But that's true.

Speaker 1 Max was like, I don't want a sweep clause.

Speaker 1 And I reminded him, you can't say you don't want a sweep clause when, like, three months ago you said Philly's title town.

Speaker 1 You can't, you can't get swept in the second round if you're title town.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, yeah, no, no. Sweep clause is in.
Sweep clause is in. All right, so sweep clause is if either team sweeps, the other guy has to do the soul patch for three months.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. What?

Speaker 1 That's a sweep clause. That was not the sweep clause.

Speaker 4 Max, Max, I'm in on it. I agree to the sweep.

Speaker 1 On behalf of Max, you can't grow a a soul paper patch.

Speaker 1 Oh, I can't.

Speaker 4 That's the only thing I can grow pubes in a soul patch.

Speaker 1 But it would take you like six years. But you doing a facial hair bet is like me doing a weight gain pet.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Like,

Speaker 1 it's not really hurting you. If I was like, a loser has to gain 10 pounds.

Speaker 4 I already get roasted for my facial hair.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But yeah, the sweep clause, three months.
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 Sounds like you both are sweeping. Where did you, where you

Speaker 1 get three months from? Till the football season. No, no, soul batch summer.
No way. Soul batch summer will be great.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I almost want to lose this though.

Speaker 1 Hank was like already scheduling out the games, being like, if the Celtics lose, when would I have to have a soul batch?

Speaker 1 It's going to be great watching the game. No, we just, it's two full, two full cycles.
Two full cycles.

Speaker 1 Is this week? You shouldn't agree to that because he is more likely to get swept. And also, he's a fucking gorilla.
He grows hair like.

Speaker 5 They should say a month. I think one month.

Speaker 1 Say three months. You're not going to get swept.
No way. Celsius.
Hank, the Celtics are not going to get swept. That's true.
So just say three months. We can't do three months.

Speaker 1 We can't do three months.

Speaker 5 Two months.

Speaker 1 One month. Two months, but they have to be both the months have to be 31 days.
One month. One month.
One month.

Speaker 1 Two months.

Speaker 1 Six weeks.

Speaker 4 What about what about two months, but but they can be non-consecutive months? So you can do the first one right now.

Speaker 4 And then you can do the second one in October.

Speaker 1 I don't hate that. Okay.
All right. Deal.
Fuck. Two non-consecutive months.
All right. Beautiful.
This is bullshit. Beautiful.

Speaker 1 Oh, if the Sixers get fucking swept.

Speaker 1 Don't get swept.

Speaker 1 Don't talk shit and then get swept.

Speaker 1 I like, don't even talk that much shit. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 I might be up there with the Zach Wilson and Patrick Mahomes

Speaker 1 comment.

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, dude.

Speaker 1 Two months is so long. People are going to get so bored.
One, six weeks.

Speaker 1 Embiid's going to be fine.

Speaker 4 You said it yourself.

Speaker 1 Embiid Ball Paul will win a game. He's so good.
If the Sixers get swept, I will never forget. All right, we'll put it in Embiid clause.
Embiid has to play at least half the games.

Speaker 1 Yes. Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. So that, so it's two months, non-consecutive two months, and Beat has to play at least half the games.

Speaker 4 I love it.

Speaker 1 You're doing the math in your head.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 October, you can do it. Who cares about October?

Speaker 4 Yeah, people just be like, oh, it's a Halloween costume for at least one weekend.

Speaker 1 So you're not going to be nutting anyway. No, that's November.
Fuck. Do November.
But yeah, so it's one month. The sweep close would be one month

Speaker 1 immediately, and then I can choose my other month. Yes.
Okay. But it can't be February.

Speaker 5 Before you end up with February.

Speaker 1 Unless it's a leap year.

Speaker 5 Before the end of the year. No, before the end of the year.
Before the end of the year.

Speaker 1 2024. Yeah, that's fine.
Isn't 2024 your leap year? Is it? Yeah, because you guys started 2014. Okay, you can do February.
2024. You can do February because that's fun.
If it's a leap year, if it's 29

Speaker 4 days. Okay, fine.

Speaker 1 Okay. Oh, man.
That's fine.

Speaker 4 Max losing another Super Bowl with a soul patch would be so awesome.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. All right.
Hank, what do you think about the Celtics and Hawks? You lost a game. Yeah, that was a good wish.
I gave it to you.

Speaker 5 Yeah, he he was chirping like the Celtics were going to lose a series. But it was a good wake-up call.
The Celtics didn't play defense. The Hawks hit, I think, 78% of their threes.

Speaker 1 Is that a Frank Fleming stat?

Speaker 1 I don't think so.

Speaker 5 I think that's accurate. Okay, okay.

Speaker 5 It was a good wake-up call. They can't play defense like that

Speaker 5 to win in the playoffs. They got, you know, it was a wake-up call.

Speaker 5 And now they're good, back on track. You know what?

Speaker 4 It's good it happened in this round.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, the Hawks hit

Speaker 1 44% of their threes,

Speaker 5 maybe it was the first half. I don't know what it was.

Speaker 1 It was

Speaker 1 they didn't miss a shot.

Speaker 5 They didn't miss a shot. They hit 70% of the ones that I saw.

Speaker 1 As far as you saw,

Speaker 1 it might have been the first half.

Speaker 5 It might have been the first half.

Speaker 1 They didn't even hit, they went 56% from the field, like overall.

Speaker 5 81%.

Speaker 1 From first

Speaker 1 throw. First quarter.

Speaker 7 43 points, 76%.

Speaker 7 76%.

Speaker 1 All right, first quarter. First quarter.
How many quarters did they play? Four. Wait.
You guys were winning 37-33 in the first quarter.

Speaker 5 That was a crazy quarter.

Speaker 1 So when the Hawks hit all their threes, no, it was 43.

Speaker 7 Maybe it's during immediate timeout. I just see a tweet, 43 points for the Hawks and 76% shooting in the first.

Speaker 4 Thank you, Jake.

Speaker 7 Okay. That was from March 6th.

Speaker 6 Totally disregard that. Oh!

Speaker 7 I just typed in talk 76%.

Speaker 1 Wait, I don't know where he got it. That was from March 6th.

Speaker 5 that was the game I was talking about. They

Speaker 5 played a game

Speaker 5 at the end of the regular season where

Speaker 5 it was like 100%. The Celtics won like 134 to 129.
There was no defense. That game on Friday was the same way.

Speaker 4 Hank,

Speaker 4 did you say 78% or 76%?

Speaker 1 He said 76, and then Jake found the Hawks hitting 76.

Speaker 1 March against the Heat.

Speaker 4 The 76ers are in Hank's head so hard, right?

Speaker 1 Oh, no. That's true.
I'm the Hawks against 76ers.

Speaker 1 Nah.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Maybe? No. Maybe? No.

Speaker 1 Okay. If we sweep.
So

Speaker 1 you guys are okay? Series over? Yeah. Done?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 No question? No.

Speaker 1 None. I'm curious.

Speaker 5 If we lose a series, I'll do the soul patch.

Speaker 1 What if the Hawks go 76% from three again?

Speaker 5 If the Celtics lose a series, I'll do the Soul patch out of respect.

Speaker 1 Two months?

Speaker 5 One month.

Speaker 4 Max, I'm curious from your perspective and all this. Technically, I think Hank's your boss.

Speaker 4 Has this rivalry impacted your professional relationship with Hank?

Speaker 1 I mean, not yet, but it hasn't.

Speaker 1 It could. It will.

Speaker 1 I don't want to speak a couple weeks from now. I think it will.
Yeah, it absolutely will.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 Some people are saying that you're withholding the golf video because you're so angry at Hank.

Speaker 1 Sure. Yeah.

Speaker 1 When is that coming out? I don't know okay it's like it's like done i don't know

Speaker 1 so just put it out

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Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 Warriors Kings.

Speaker 1 Steph Curry dodged a major bullet. Major bullet.

Speaker 1 If you didn't watch the game, basically what happened was the Warriors were up like four or five, pretty much for the late stretch of the game.

Speaker 1 It was a close game.

Speaker 1 And then with, I don't know, 45 seconds left, Steph got trapped in the back court, called a timeout, didn't have a timeout because Steve Kerr had used it on a challenge that he lost.

Speaker 1 Kings got a free throw and the ball, hit a three, down one with 26 seconds left.

Speaker 1 And then Steph went down and shot a a floater with 12 seconds left on the shot clock, giving the Kings a chance to win the game and basically end the Warriors because 3-1 would have been very tough to come back from, especially with the way they've been playing on the road.

Speaker 1 And Harrison Barnes, who has been waiting for this moment for, what, six years, seven years,

Speaker 1 clanked what would have been the winning three,

Speaker 1 and the Warriors survive, and it's 2-2, and we got ourselves a series. This is the best series of round one.
I think we all would agree.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's been so fun. Every game has been just electric.
And we are, yeah, we did get a little ahead of ourselves with our beam team talk and all that, but it was fun.

Speaker 4 I'm not going to apologize for that.

Speaker 4 There was a very interesting quote from Draymond after the game regarding that shot that Harrison Barnes took. And in, I guess, a touching tribute to Harrison Barnes is Ricochet shot at him.

Speaker 4 And he said

Speaker 4 that

Speaker 4 we know that Fox is a clutch player. He's a great player that can make those shots at the end of the game.

Speaker 4 So we decided not to let him go ISO on us, essentially just saying we were going to let Harrison Barnes shoot if he got the ball. That was our game plan on that last play.

Speaker 1 And that is how they played it. Yeah, that is exactly how they played it.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 the Steph Curry timeout thing had a lot of people talk about Chris Weber

Speaker 4 and his timeout, the timeout, as they call it, in the national championship game.

Speaker 4 People forget, though, that that timeout, that fake timeout that didn't exist that is maybe the ultimate ball don't lie moment because weber got the ball on the inbounds pass and he traveled he like clearly walked the refs didn't call it and then he goes down and does that that's i think that's number one if we're doing all-time ball don't lie power rankings i would i would say that's probably number one and number two would be uh the davion clowney hit against Michigan because the play before that they measured the first down and the ball was short and the the ref just gave them the first down.

Speaker 4 Spurrier was out there on the field pointing at, like, hey, there's two inches right there. There's two inches.
Very next play, Clowney blows him up in the backfield, picks the ball up.

Speaker 1 Okay, so yeah,

Speaker 1 you are right. The Chris Weber was the most egregious travel.
But yeah, Steph had a bad, and it was crazy too, because Doris Burke.

Speaker 1 And I love Doris Burke. She's phenomenal.
She had two things that made me like scratch my head. One was she said Steph Curry is somehow still underrated.
I don't, in what world? In what world?

Speaker 7 We had this whole segment two years ago where you told me to remind you every week to respect Steph Curry.

Speaker 1 We do, but he's been winning that last one, like there is no, there's nothing left. But there was a portion when he, yes,

Speaker 1 when they missed the playoffs. Yeah.
But then I think last year was it. Like, there's no one, no one underrates him anymore, right?

Speaker 4 I think if you become so overrated that people always say that you're overrated, then at some point you can then become underrated.

Speaker 1 And I think that's what Steph was when what Jake just brought up before he won his fourth title, when it was

Speaker 1 when he had won the three, and then, you know, they missed the playoffs. He got injured.
People kind of forgot about him. But last year was it.
Like that was Steph Curry's an all-time great, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yes, absolutely.
There's definitely a curve where you start and you're good and then you're underrated and then you get, you defeat the underrated label and then you're awesome for a while.

Speaker 4 People agree that you're awesome. And then people are like, no, you're overrated because you haven't won every championship in the last 10 years.
Right.

Speaker 4 And then at that point, you can become underrated yet again.

Speaker 1 And that's exactly when Steph won the title. Yeah.
On the one you just described, because then he became back to level.

Speaker 4 Yes. And now he's back up again.
So, no, I don't think that Steph Curry is underrated.

Speaker 1 He was, but he no longer is. Yeah.

Speaker 9 But he will be.

Speaker 4 But if he wins the championship this year, then he's going to be overrated next year.

Speaker 1 Agreed. Oh, yes.

Speaker 4 Jake, set a reminder that if Steph Curry wins the title this year, that we have to start calling him overrated in like March.

Speaker 1 And then if he's still playing when he's like 37, even without a title, he's back to underrated. Yep.
Right now, he's exactly correctly rated. Yep.

Speaker 1 He's the perfect rated right now.

Speaker 1 And then the other was she kept on mentioning that the Kings were making dumb young team mistakes, which they were. Their shot selection was suspect in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 But Steph made like the two dumbest young team mistakes that were

Speaker 1 like Steph got bailed out so bad in this game, and

Speaker 1 he had to have breathed the largest sigh of relief because the back-to-back timeout and then shooting with 12 seconds left on the shot clock. It was, I was like, is something wrong with Steph Curry?

Speaker 1 Because it's some mistakes that you just didn't expect the Warriors to make, and they were making them.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's also tough for the Kings to lose a Keegan-Murray game. If you get a Keegan-Murray 23-point game, that's on the road.
That's one that you have to win.

Speaker 1 10-Big 10 championship. Really, really,

Speaker 4 the entire region of Northern California, they're undefeated.

Speaker 1 It's a sweep. That's true.
4-0.

Speaker 1 The other last thing I had was Draymond Green. I know that he gets talked about a lot because he does dumb shit.

Speaker 1 He is on another level defensively.

Speaker 1 Like, I actually think that if if you're the Warriors, you want him to get suspended at least once a playoff because he came back today and he was just wrecking everything.

Speaker 4 Like, he was immediately gets attacked.

Speaker 1 He was, he, dude, he was so good in that fourth quarter. There was a couple possessions where he blocked, like, he was basically playing two-on-one in the post.
He would, you know, there was a block.

Speaker 1 Then there was one time where Sabonis came down. And even before Sabonis could, like, set up what he wanted to do and back him down, he just picked his pocket.
Like, he just does it all defensively.

Speaker 1 I don't think because he gets talked about for all the other shit, rightfully so, sometimes we forget how, just how game-changing he is defensively and his passing.

Speaker 4 Yeah, when he, when he got that tech, that wasn't for the foul, right? That was for the talking back and forth after the foul. I believe so, yeah.
Okay, good.

Speaker 4 Because I was going to say that would have been a reputation call if he got, if he got that.

Speaker 4 technical foul because his hand actually the face made contact with his hand he didn't it didn't look like he meant to do that he and he when he gets suspended he doesn't Like, did he say anything after he got suspended for game three?

Speaker 1 I feel like he doesn't complain. Yes, he did.
What do you mean? What do you say?

Speaker 5 He said, I've never heard of someone getting suspended for something they did like a few years ago.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Wait.
What do you mean?

Speaker 5 Something he did a few years ago? They said part of the suspension was because of his profits.

Speaker 1 All right, so he did complain. All right.
I was proven wrong. I just think that he backs up his villain heel way better than Dylan Brooks.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Oh, a million percent.

Speaker 4 He is a villain. He's a million percent decor villain.
Like Dylan Brooks wakes up every morning tells himself in the mirror like you you can beat Dream on today.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Dream on just like Max says you're gonna beat Hank. You're gonna do it.
You're not gonna have to get a soul patch for two two non-consecutive months. I can't stop thinking about the soul patch.

Speaker 1 The sweet clause is you are Dylan Brooks.

Speaker 1 You are in your own head constantly.

Speaker 4 It really is the mirror meme where Dylan Brooks is pointing at himself and just going, go out there and you be Dreamon today.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, you do it.

Speaker 1 You can do this. You know what? You're a shooter.
You're not just defense.

Speaker 1 You can score. Shoot every shot.

Speaker 4 Let me ask you, Big Cat.

Speaker 4 If the Kings lose this series, are we going to have any regret at all for getting Kings Fever?

Speaker 1 No, because I also, I have a future on the Warriors, so there will be no regrets. Okay.
None whatsoever.

Speaker 4 King's Fever, hepatitis beam, whatever you want to call it.

Speaker 1 Listen,

Speaker 1 it's a long-standing theme of this show. You have to enjoy the ride.

Speaker 1 So, any Kings fan, if this series, I have had Hank's thought in my head all weekend when he was like, as soon as you guys started talking up the Kings, I was like, they're not going to win another game.

Speaker 1 Because, yeah,

Speaker 1 it's starting to feel that way.

Speaker 4 Well, because Hank's been around us for so long that he knows the way that we get about things and gets super excited just to have everything shatter.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but

Speaker 1 no one should ever, as a sports fan, as a person, should ever regret the emotions they feel in the moment. Don't, those,

Speaker 1 oh, oh, oh, oh, you said something on Twitter the two days later was a bad take. Oh, who cares? That's what I was feeling.
Live in the moment.

Speaker 4 Enjoy the ride. That's why we don't hold January 6th against Billy.

Speaker 1 Right, exactly. He was living in the moment.
He was like, me and my bros are going to go do something fun. We want to feel alive.
And we're like, do it, dude. We'll cover for you.

Speaker 1 We'll say you were here recording. So that when the FBI knocks on our door, it won't be a problem.
And what has happened? No problems.

Speaker 9 It's actually been a blessing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. You came back a rejuvenated man.

Speaker 4 We were led into the Senate.

Speaker 1 We didn't go there purposefully.

Speaker 9 They led us there.

Speaker 1 They were like, come on, it's fun. I was like, oh.

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 I mean, nuggets, your nuggets look awesome.

Speaker 4 My nuggets are awesome. They're going for the sweep.
They are awesome. And they haven't even had a Jokic game yet.

Speaker 4 Like, he's been dominating, but he hasn't been filling up the stat sheet in terms of, I don't think he's been the leading scorer in any of their wins so far. They're getting it done.

Speaker 4 Porter, Murray stepping up, our big three, absolutely loving it.

Speaker 1 It's, yeah, it, it,

Speaker 1 thankfully, the one series, because this happens every single year where there's one series where, like, it's 10.30 starts on recording nights and we'll like miss it, or it will be, like, a Monday night, and we'll just be so late.

Speaker 1 This, this was a good series to have be the missed series because they're going to sweep them, and I don't know where the wolves go from here.

Speaker 4 No, it's actually great when you're in the weird spot that I've put myself in with this series because I wake up and I check what the score was first thing in the morning, and I'm pumped no matter what.

Speaker 4 I'm like, awesome, nuggets won. That's good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Maybe it won't be a sweep.
We'll see. All right, should we talk some playoff hockey? What? PFT.
I know that you got some stuff going on, but Saturday had three consecutive overtimes.

Speaker 1 It was awesome.

Speaker 5 And four counting if you count the game the last game, Friday night. Were you counting that?

Speaker 5 I mean, yeah, I just pay attention.

Speaker 1 Well, you told us to bet the overtimes and we did like what a day to have three out of the four games go to overtime. And Hank gave us this betting strategy to bet all overtimes.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it was awesome. Hank, that's that's you're so sharp when it comes to playoff hockey.
Congratulations, Hank. Hank, I might retire

Speaker 1 from all the winnings I got.

Speaker 5 Yeah, yeah. I hope there's people listening that listen to me.
I didn't listen to myself.

Speaker 1 What do you mean? Well,

Speaker 5 at the end of the day, it's all on me. It's man in the arena.
I'm the only person responsible. But Quiggs, one of our co-workers, he's kind of the round-robin guy.

Speaker 5 We were in this together, and then on Thursday, the officer was really talking me out of it, saying it's bad value, it's bad value, it's bad value. It lost three nights in a row, got in my head.

Speaker 5 I didn't bet it Saturday. Wait, what? I didn't bet it Saturday.

Speaker 1 Wait, but you bet it the three nights in a row that it lost? Yep.

Speaker 5 But you didn't bet it. I only four.
Saturday?

Speaker 1 Saturday had three.

Speaker 5 Saturday had three. If you did the round-robin, you would have cashed a lot.

Speaker 1 It had three overtimes.

Speaker 5 It had three. It almost looked like four.
I lost a lot of sleep. It ruined my entire night.

Speaker 5 I was just pacing around my apartment just looking for someone to blame, but there's no one to blame but myself and Quiggs.

Speaker 4 Hank, I'm so sorry. Because

Speaker 4 when I was congratulating, I thought that you would bet it because you were so into this bet. That was not a troll.
I'm not trolling you. I'm so sorry.

Speaker 4 This is the worst thing that's happened to anybody on this podcast this week.

Speaker 5 I agreed. Yeah,

Speaker 5 it was a long, long, long, long night Saturday. Thankfully, thankfully, the Avalanche game was tied going into the third period.
And if that went to overtime, I probably wouldn't be here right now.

Speaker 1 But it still cashed a lot.

Speaker 5 If you bet it, it cashed a lot. So I hope people listen and bet it.

Speaker 4 Damn, were there anything? You didn't bet it.

Speaker 1 Were there any NBA games where the fourth quarter had the exact same score?

Speaker 5 No, I didn't. I stopped doing that.

Speaker 1 That's where, whatever.

Speaker 5 Jack McCarthy, too, we can throw some blame his way.

Speaker 1 Okay, okay. But man in the arena, just you.

Speaker 5 Yeah, no one one to blame but yourself. Right.

Speaker 1 And Quidditch. Right.

Speaker 1 Okay. So, yeah, playoff hockey has been incredible.
Three overtime games in one day was awesome. The Devils are back a lot.
Like,

Speaker 1 I think every series,

Speaker 1 I guess now there's some series that are 3-1,

Speaker 1 the Bruins being one of them. But there's, I think tomorrow night, the Islanders being another one.
Tomorrow night,

Speaker 1 we have four games that are 2-1 series. Like, that's going to be awesome.

Speaker 5 I love that. I think

Speaker 5 I should not do it. It's over, right? That was it.

Speaker 4 No, you should keep trying.

Speaker 1 I think it is over. And I think there's just going to be a shitload of overtimes.

Speaker 4 Whenever you decide to do, the opposite is going to happen. Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 That's where we're at. You can kind of

Speaker 1 control playoff hockey this year. You should not do it.
And then when overtimes happen, people can say, thank you, Hank, for giving us such a great playoff hockey. Right?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 1 Because whatever you do, you will lose.

Speaker 5 Yeah, that's how it feels right now.

Speaker 4 Your Bruins had a great moment at the end of the game, Hank, when the goalie tried to fight Kachuck. That was awesome.
It was also kind of

Speaker 4 a hold-me-back moment because he knew exactly where the linesman was at that point. But seeing a goalie throw his gloves off is one of the coolest parts of hockey that you almost never get to see.

Speaker 5 Kachuk's a scumbag.

Speaker 5 What? What? He just plays.

Speaker 5 He's a cheap shotter.

Speaker 4 Oh, no. The Bruins don't have anybody like that on their team.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Brad Marshawn hasn't got a penalty the whole playoffs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but remember when PFT would be like, Tom Wilson hasn't been suspended for any regular season games? Yeah. Facts.
It's a fact. Who just plays the game?

Speaker 1 In preseason?

Speaker 4 He plays the game the right way on that edge.

Speaker 1 Hank,

Speaker 4 you have a guy that licks people.

Speaker 5 No, they said on the broadcast today, Marshawn knows his reputation. He knows it's bigger than him.
He's playing smart. No penalties.

Speaker 1 How's been the Bruins bandwagon? Did you feel good?

Speaker 5 Yeah, we're back on. The Bergeron thing concerns me.
I feel like it's going to be tough to win a cup without Bergeron, but they're playing well without him.

Speaker 5 And hopefully it gets better. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The Leafs are back. That was an awesome comeback for them.
And to win in overtime was pretty sick.

Speaker 1 I saw there was a Leafs fan who got a Stanley Cup tattoo, which

Speaker 1 they literally literally went, they went up 2-1 for like two hours and the guy got the tattoo.

Speaker 5 Like the shittiest tattoo. Yeah, shittiest tattoo ever.

Speaker 1 Prison

Speaker 5 tattoos are better than what this guy got.

Speaker 1 Fuck.

Speaker 4 I blame the tattoo artist for that. At some point, you have to draw a line.
That's a bad tattoo pun, but you do have to, you have to tell your, your customer, like, this, I'm not going to do this.

Speaker 4 This is just, this is the dumbest idea. You could get literally anything else tattooed on your body besides a Toronto Maple Leaf Stanley Cup champion tattoo, and it would be fine.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 And I wouldn't blame the artist for that. That's on you.
You should be disbarred or whatever it is.

Speaker 1 Islanders minute?

Speaker 1 Bury the tape. Bury the tape.
Wait, but I like that. You got to watch it and figure out what went wrong.
No, no, everything went wrong. It was a terrible game.
So

Speaker 1 it's over, right? No, no, no. Blowouts happen all the time in the playoffs.
Right. You can't bounce back.
But you're down 3-1 and the one game you won. Well, no, you guys blew them out, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because you had game three. Usually the home team, when they're down 2-0, comes back, wins a game, and now it's over.
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 10 So, win on Tuesday.

Speaker 4 Win on Thursday.

Speaker 1 Win on Saturday. Saturday? Yeah, fuck it.

Speaker 1 He's just giving them a path, PFT.

Speaker 4 I see it. It sounds like if they get three wins in a row, the Islanders could really take control of the series.

Speaker 1 Do you think that the series has been like 50-50? I guess you did have game two that missed call.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and they scored on themselves.

Speaker 1 Game two.

Speaker 1 That's hard to do. Yep.

Speaker 4 First two games only lost by one.

Speaker 1 One blowout.

Speaker 1 Score more goals than the other team. Yeah.
Let's just do it. Okay.
Yeah, let's just be legends. I like that.
But today was really bad. Yeah.
Very bad. Very, very bad.

Speaker 1 Start off hot. Five early shots immediately to a five-on-three,

Speaker 1 and the game is over. Oh, man.
Memes.

Speaker 4 You got to go down 2-0 now. That's the key.
Go down two goals to nothing and then come back when, then you guys will win the series.

Speaker 1 Well, they did that today.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Most dangerous lead in hockey.

Speaker 1 They went down 3-0, 4-0.

Speaker 1 4-0? Did you go down 4-0?

Speaker 1 Yeah. 5-0? No, 4-0.
4-1. That was 4-1.
5-1.

Speaker 4 But whoever scores first has one.

Speaker 1 Okay, so there you go. We got the keys to success.
And then the Oilers, Kings has been an awesome series, but it goes on so late. It's 3-3 right now in the third.
I guess

Speaker 1 if we are still still here at the end of the show, we'll update everyone. Will Farrell's going to just every game.
He was at the Lakers game. He's got this weird face paint, Kings game.

Speaker 1 And I have to say, I love it.

Speaker 1 I know that like some people are like, oh, he's being a trial.

Speaker 1 Like, if you're as rich as Will Farrell and as famous as him and you've done as much as him, just being like going to games and just being a fool would be so much fun.

Speaker 4 Yeah, just my entire life would be spent just going to different sporting events. That's it.

Speaker 1 Right. And it's like, you can, can, it probably is also like one of the nice times where you can go out in public.
And when you're sitting at your seat, people aren't going to most likely bother you.

Speaker 1 So good for him.

Speaker 4 That's why he worked so hard for those like seven years where he put out three movies a year and everybody was like, okay, we get it, Will. We get it.
It's for times like this.

Speaker 4 Now's the time where you just relax.

Speaker 1 Agreed. Agreed.
Okay. Anything else in the sports world before we do who's back?

Speaker 1 Anything? Billy said.

Speaker 1 He gave me a false start.

Speaker 4 My defenders in XFL North Championship game next weekend. Huge.
9-1 of the year. That's the XFL minute.

Speaker 1 Okay, XFL minute.

Speaker 1 All right, let's do who's back. And then we have NFL draft talk with Peter Schrager.

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Speaker 1 Okay, who's back of the week?

Speaker 1 Who's back of the week is Chief Keefe.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 love Lock. I

Speaker 5 Davis Garcia fight. He walked Tank Davis out singing Love Sosa, and I was watching it, and I just, you know, kind of hit me.
First of all, Chief Keefe was 16 when that song got put out.

Speaker 1 Banger.

Speaker 5 10 years ago, he doesn't really even put music out.

Speaker 5 And it's just a testament to how good that song is and how, you know, big he was when he was 16 years old that that song is still relevant today to the point where he's walking out the number one prize fighter for the biggest fight of the year.

Speaker 1 It was an awesome moment because I just, I had had the same exact feeling as you. It's like, oh my God, I forgot about this song.
And he walked out. I was like, that song's like really, really good.

Speaker 5 And he put it out when he was 16. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I also,

Speaker 1 that fight was great because it was, whenever boxing has like a big, big fight where it's two undefeated guys, it's like, there's just nothing like it.

Speaker 1 It just feels like my whole day, I was like, I can't wait for this fight. PFD, I had a real throwback experience with this fight that you'll appreciate and maybe not anyone else.

Speaker 1 I bought this fight on regular pay-per-view with my TV. It was nice.
I looked through it in the sports guide and bought the fight.

Speaker 5 I tried to do that and I couldn't find it. I was like, and then I started.
I was late.

Speaker 1 I was around late. I was like, I transported in time.
It was so fucking cool. And that meant I could go, I could flip back and forth between the fight and the Lakers game.
Like,

Speaker 1 I want to be able to buy every fight like that. It was so much fun.

Speaker 4 Hitting a button on your TV is incredible and getting the fight. I love it.
There was also a sick, sick liver knockout, which is my favorite type of knockout. It is the best.

Speaker 4 I think I've said this on the show, but I love to just watch YouTube compilations of liver knockouts because, and it was perfect. You get that like five second moment, or it felt like five seconds.

Speaker 4 It's probably only like one or two, but you get hit in the stomach and then you take two steps back and then it's just debilitating pain that just paralyzes you.

Speaker 4 And everybody was like, what the fuck happened? That's, this fight's, this is rigged.

Speaker 4 yeah that didn't count this is he took a dive but no the liver knockout i hope to god i'm never punching my liver yeah i protect my liver at all costs besides not drinking that was my who's back liver shots yeah liver shots just epic it was uh it was very fun to watch all twitter debate whether he quit or not because he did pop up after but like a liver shot is

Speaker 1 Yeah, you could see it. He just couldn't, like, his whole body shut down.

Speaker 5 Davis knew too, right away.

Speaker 1 Right away.

Speaker 4 Yep.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Tank Davis's hands you're fucking insane he's just so much power uh okay is that your who's back good who's back uh my other who's back is the four aces oh yeah let's go chris was fucking pumped absolute wagon uh i think it's their fifth win no other no other team has won the yard goat or no the range goat sorry they had the lead going into the final round they choked it away i watched so because it was friday and saturday night sports on all night late And then it was a nice little kind of wean off the sports because it was on it.

Speaker 5 It started at 10. It was on until like 2 a.m.
I watched both nights. It was entertaining.
Crazy crowds. They had DJs going at every hole.
It was good golf.

Speaker 5 I really don't care one way or the other. I don't know.
I think it helped because it was so late at night.

Speaker 5 I don't know if Liv can figure out a way to do all their events at night, even when they're in the U.S. That's probably not possible.

Speaker 5 But I watched it. I was enjoyed.
I actually kind of like the team format today because the four aces, they were coming back. It made sense where before it was like, why? The team thing means nothing.

Speaker 5 But it was kind of entertaining entertaining to watch. Like, as each player, you know, would get a birdie or someone would get a bogey.

Speaker 5 It's like, oh, this team, this team might win, this team might lose.

Speaker 5 It kind of made sense. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Brooks's brother.

Speaker 4 Maybe it's golf, but louder. I walked in the coffee shop this morning.
Everybody was talking about the four aces. It was incredible.

Speaker 7 Brooks's brother had a hole in one. Yeah, it was awesome.

Speaker 1 It was crazy.

Speaker 7 They were throwing stuff on the T-box. It was insane.

Speaker 1 And it was funny because I watched it and they didn't, I didn't have sound on, and I thought it was Brooks because I was like, I couldn't, they didn't really show his face. I have the hiccups.

Speaker 1 And so I was happy for Brooks.

Speaker 1 I'm happy for Brooks for hitting that hole in one. Regardless, I'm happy that his brother got away.
Kepka hit a hole in one. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah, Brooks. But Brooks played well.
That's the thing. Watching, I was watching it.
It's like, yeah, you're watching. Brooks is one of the best players in the world.

Speaker 5 Cam Smith, one of the best players in the world. Like, when, when they're hitting great golf shots, it's entertaining.

Speaker 1 It doesn't really matter what, you know, Cam Smith did a Shooey.

Speaker 5 Cam Smith did a Shoey.

Speaker 1 It was sick. I was just getting all my live golf updates through your Twitter.

Speaker 5 I do think, yeah, I do think that it was was

Speaker 5 just ripping DJ music in the middle of play was a little bit weird. I feel like the golfers have to be like, this is cool.
This is what we want.

Speaker 5 But there's no way that they're not walking off being like, this is fucking brutal. Patrick Cantley would still be out there.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Okay, good respect. And it got it a Vita on repeat for his round.
By the way,

Speaker 1 I'm addicted to Patrick Cantley clips.

Speaker 1 He did this on purpose now. And they keep coming out every single day.
There's old ones. There's new ones.
It just, every shot takes like five minutes.

Speaker 5 It's not his fault, though. I'm on his side.
What? They don't police him.

Speaker 1 Oh, so you're saying he's just playing within the rules?

Speaker 5 It's not. But if they're not going to enforce the rules, why shouldn't he do it?

Speaker 5 That's what he says. He says, no one,

Speaker 5 talking about the Masters, he's like, I've played this. I know I play slow.
I've known this my whole life. No one at any point during the Masters was like, you have to play faster.

Speaker 5 So I didn't play it.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's actually a fair point.

Speaker 4 I tell my son, Chris, I say, you have to go to bed. It's nine o'clock and the aces are still playing, but I don't actually take them upstairs.
And it's on me as a parent for not enforcing bedtime.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 5 Four aces are stacked.

Speaker 4 I love this iteration of Hanks. Are they a dream team? CW.
Super team?

Speaker 1 They're stacked. Who's on it?

Speaker 5 It's Reed, Johnson, Pat Perez. I don't know who their fourth is, but it's only top three that matter.

Speaker 1 You don't know the fourth ace? No, I don't. You just told us not to.

Speaker 5 Every team is three good guys in a store.

Speaker 1 How do you not know the fourth ace?

Speaker 1 It's literally the four aces, and you can't name the fourth ace. Doesn't matter.
No, that does matter. Ringo.

Speaker 1 Who?

Speaker 4 Ringo.

Speaker 1 We got to know the fourth ace. Peter Eulon.

Speaker 5 Yeah, no, it's every, every, every team is like

Speaker 1 every team.

Speaker 5 Every team in Live, you go to see their team, and it's like,

Speaker 5 there's three names I recognize, and then.

Speaker 1 But Hank, you do realize that they would be the three aces. But only three.

Speaker 5 two aesthetics, but only three.

Speaker 1 No, there's four of them. There's four of them.
They're four aces.

Speaker 1 It says it in the name. Right.

Speaker 5 But only the top three matches.

Speaker 1 But they're the four aces.

Speaker 5 They are the four aces.

Speaker 5 This guy, Peter Hewlin, Jake, I don't know if that's correct.

Speaker 4 I don't know either.

Speaker 5 He is so rich now because of the four aces.

Speaker 1 And he doesn't have to do shit. Good for him.

Speaker 7 It is Eulon. That was right.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Good for him.
All right. What's your who's back PFT?

Speaker 4 My who's back of the week is Cactuses.

Speaker 1 Ooh, yeah cactuses are back big

Speaker 1 big time talk cacti

Speaker 4 good good point yeah thank you thank you for correcting my grammar correctly this time hey yep no problem uh so after our show that we recorded on on i guess that was thursday thursday night billy after we signed off said hey uh I know that we sent your laptop to you, but was there any other like weird gifts down there?

Speaker 4 And when Billy asked me, like, do you have a weird gift that's waiting from Billy Football?

Speaker 4 I was immediately like, well, I have to go down and see what this gift is right now, which is very thoughtful that Billy sent a present over.

Speaker 4 So I went downstairs to the hotel lobby, asked them if they had

Speaker 4 another package for me. They handed it to me.
I come back upstairs and I opened it up and Billy sent me a lovely cactus. in the mail

Speaker 4 as a like sorry sympathy cactus yeah which i um i then i taking it over to my i actually took it over to my mom's house yesterday so um i dropped it off and she says, thank you very much, Billy.

Speaker 4 She doesn't have to water it, which is nice. It's a gritty plant, which is nice.
Cactuses are basically a gift that you give to somebody and you're like, you suck at keeping things alive.

Speaker 4 Here's a cactus. Yeah.

Speaker 9 I had a feeling you're going to get a bunch of flowers and I thought, why don't you like the grittiest flowers?

Speaker 1 No, but say why you really didn't get him flowers because you told us on Thursday. Billy didn't want to get you flowers because he's like, flowers die and then you'll think you're dead, dad.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's what he told us. And we're like, oh, okay.

Speaker 4 That's exactly what I was saying. It's like, you can't.

Speaker 4 Here's one thing that guy.

Speaker 4 It also reminded me of what a little prick Billy is.

Speaker 1 I was going to say, because I told him, I was like, because you're staying in a hotel and you're coming back. And I was like, you just gave PFT.
I mean, it's nice you gave it to your mom.

Speaker 1 But at first, I was like, you just gave PFT something that like you can't.

Speaker 1 fit in a luggage.

Speaker 9 You guys are just feeling guilty because you didn't send flowers or any presents.

Speaker 1 No, I would never send someone a cactus after a family death.

Speaker 9 Well, the cactus, I mean, I think it's like a little more just like a bro gift.

Speaker 5 Like, here's a cactus.

Speaker 1 Out of all the flowers. It's a PFT's mom.

Speaker 9 Well, it was to PFT.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Yeah, it was to me.

Speaker 4 I think the real reason is Billy didn't want to send flowers because then he'd be like, he probably thinks I'm gay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, sus.

Speaker 1 So sus.

Speaker 9 Cactuses aren't sus. No, definitely not.

Speaker 4 They're not sus.

Speaker 4 It's like, here's a flower that will hurt you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. It's important whenever giving a sympathy gift to someone to to make sure your masculinity stays intact.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I appreciate that, Billy.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 4 Honestly, it was nice. Thank you for thinking of me.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You did, I mean, you did think like more than just like send whatever.
So that you do get credit for that.

Speaker 5 Exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Good friend, Billy.

Speaker 4 Great friend, Billy.

Speaker 1 How big was the cactus? It's a cute little guy. Oh, nice.

Speaker 4 I thought this size.

Speaker 1 I thought it was multiple. I thought it was cacti that you sent.
No, no. Yeah.

Speaker 4 My other who's back is baseball cards because one of the things that you get to do when you're cleaning out a bunch of stuff that belongs to your parents is you get to find all your old baseball cards that you had when you were a kid.

Speaker 4 And I had a shitload of them and they're still in like their big base. Every kid has a baseball card binder that they keep.

Speaker 4 And I've got a thick ass binder filled with hopefully some good baseball cards. I've never been, we did like that, that

Speaker 4 we were ripping packs, right, with King Golden that one time.

Speaker 1 I'm going to bring the the binder back i'm gonna sit down what doug's is is a big baseball card guy yep i'm gonna have him go through all my childhood baseball cards and figure out if there are any decent ones in there because i'm pretty sure that i've got at least uh at least like a handful of rare valuable baseball cards so i'm pumped about that that's awesome i uh as a kid when i had the binder of baseball cards i had the genius thought to take all the really good ones out and separate them and then i lost the separate ones so i went through my baseball baseball cards like, I don't know, it was like five years ago, and it was just pages of just the worst players possible.

Speaker 4 You know, I definitely had a side box where you put the good ones

Speaker 4 in the solid paper. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So plastic.

Speaker 4 Yes. And I definitely did that.
I have not looked to see if I have those cards. I probably don't.
Yeah. I probably have scrubs.

Speaker 4 I wish you hadn't said that yet. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I remember having a bunch of Ken Griffey cards and I just, none of them.

Speaker 1 Cause I, I, in my infinite wisdom as like, I don't know, a 10-year-old, I was like, oh, yeah, I'll save the really expensive ones and I'll save them somewhere else and just lost that.

Speaker 4 That's probably exactly what's going to happen to me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, shit.

Speaker 1 Well, I got good news, PFT. My who's back is our blue check marks.
Yeah. We're back.
We're back.

Speaker 1 Elon loves us more than everyone else.

Speaker 4 He's an AWL.

Speaker 4 Shout out to Elon Musk.

Speaker 4 Appreciate you, man.

Speaker 4 I guess he bought our blue check marks and he's personally paying for them out of his bank account.

Speaker 4 So that's awesome.

Speaker 4 I was so surprised when I saw that I had it back.

Speaker 1 Me too.

Speaker 4 I have no idea how it came back.

Speaker 1 Absolutely zero idea. So you texted, you're like, does anyone else have a blue check mark? I went and looked.
I was like, fuck, I do too.

Speaker 1 Obviously, people shamed us online.

Speaker 1 But then when I realized what finally happened, so apparently he just gave blue check marks to anyone with over a million followers because they're like Norm McDonald got a blue check mark.

Speaker 1 Anthony Bourdain got a blue check mark. These are people who are dead.

Speaker 1 And it says like they verified their phone number.

Speaker 1 So I'm not, I mean, am I supposed to apologize for having over a million followers? No, no, you shouldn't.

Speaker 4 I mean, it's just a fact.

Speaker 1 It's math. Yeah.
And Hank is. Are you

Speaker 1 are you mad? No. Do you think he was?

Speaker 5 There's nothing I could care less about than Twitter and blue check marks.

Speaker 1 Okay, so he's mad.

Speaker 4 Well, he also gave us the blue check marks, but I don't think that we have any of the features

Speaker 1 of blue check marks. We do.

Speaker 1 We didn't yesterday. And then when I went on today, I tried to send a tweet, and then it has the timer now, like 30-second countdown.
That has to be a feature, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, sick.

Speaker 4 Okay, I'm going to start posting 10-minute videos all the time.

Speaker 7 You press submit, and then it says sending tweet, and you just press send it right away.

Speaker 1 So he gave it to us, baby. He just was like, here, I love you guys the most.

Speaker 4 I've always been been a big Elon fan. I've been very consistent on that through the history of this podcast.

Speaker 1 And shout out our boss, Dave Portner, who bought it. And

Speaker 1 maybe like within five minutes, Elon had given back the blue check marks to everyone with a million followers. Yeah.
Perfect timing.

Speaker 4 I texted Dave because I saw when I had mine that he got one himself. And I was like, hey, Elon gave all of us blue check marks.
And he was like, wait a second. I just paid for it.

Speaker 4 Are you getting yours for free? And I was like, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I am.

Speaker 4 He's like, this is such bullshit. I hope that Dave actually makes us think about it and tries to get his $8 refunded.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Yes. But yeah, we're back.

Speaker 1 I mean, I guess cash the under, but we didn't buy it. So

Speaker 1 it doesn't count, right?

Speaker 4 It was forced upon us.

Speaker 1 It was.

Speaker 5 I'm happy for you guys. I know you probably lost sleep over it.
I'm just happy.

Speaker 1 I was actually kind of liking the chaos of Twitter.

Speaker 1 It was very chaotic. And then he just, he's just going to keep, I would imagine he's going to take him away again.

Speaker 1 That's the fun.

Speaker 1 I actually like the game he's playing where he just gives him back takes him away says oh on this date everyone has to buy it jake buys it then we then they take it back again like it's just going to keep going like this and i'm i'm in for all of it

Speaker 4 i wonder if if we changed our names if it would get rid of it again i think maybe i don't know though because i was updating my profile every single time the defenders won a game to reflect the record when they were undefeated and it wasn't being taken away then so there must have been some arbitrary date where he said if you change your name then it's going away.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So don't yell at us because we didn't buy it.
It was forced upon us. But I'm fine that it was forced upon me.

Speaker 4 If it were my decision, I would have told Elon, no, thank you. But he just, he made me do it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, against my will.

Speaker 1 Yeah, against my will. So

Speaker 1 there's nothing we can do. No, it was a non-consensual blue check mark.
Yep.

Speaker 1 Jake. He vaped us.
Or your Billy.

Speaker 9 Liver shots. And also, it turns out Ryan Garcia had a mole in his fight camp that he posted about after the fight.
He said, There was a mole in my fight camp. I can't believe this happened.

Speaker 9 And between that and him saying that the rehydration clause was a little too stringent, so he couldn't fully rehydrate after the weigh-in. And those were his like two excuses on the thing.

Speaker 9 I can see the rehydration claim.

Speaker 1 How about his hair? Yeah. His hair is too pretty.
He is way too pretty. He's way too pretty.

Speaker 9 Way too pretty. But they said the same thing about Oscar De La Hoya back in the day.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 9 But

Speaker 4 McGregor was in his locker room after and was like hey get the rehydration clause fixed and i think if you guys go at it again like you'll definitely win so i love good boxing excuses they're always the best right afterwards a mole that's actually very salacious i i think that if there's an actual mole in a fight camp and they catch him you should be allowed to kill that guy yeah Just put him in the ring.

Speaker 9 No, but like actually from a psychological level, a mole in the fight camp is just, it's totally going to mess with the psyche of a fighter.

Speaker 9 Because like half of the, the cult, half of like the cold war leading up to the fight between the two fight camps is like so huge that like having a mole in the camp is gonna definitely shake you even if you know like what oh he's got like a one two like there's not much you information you can give but it's just psychologically just so devastating damn

Speaker 9 it's very tough uh jake oh no you had no last uh last week's back nate diaz choked cam out in new orleans just some random dude got involved with him and he just put him down in like 10 seconds from like crazy like like chokehold and just laid him down in the street.

Speaker 1 That guy's got to have better facial recognition. Like, walking up and being like, wait, that's Nate Diaz.
Sorry, I don't want any.

Speaker 1 It was so fast that he choked him out. And he let him down kind of nicely.

Speaker 5 It was the most polite way to utilize a street fight. Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's not even like facial recognition. If you see a guy with cauliflower ear, just ear recognition.
If they have cauliflower ear, don't fuck with them. Yep.

Speaker 1 That's a fact.

Speaker 1 Jake finishes off. Then we got Peter Schrager, NFL draft.

Speaker 7 My who's back is Coach Coach Prime. Colorado spring game this weekend.
Yes. Sold out 45,000 people.
They had 1,800 people last season.

Speaker 4 Unreal. Vibes are changing after

Speaker 7 just a new chapter for them. And

Speaker 4 off to a great start.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was cool seeing that. I mean, we've been to that stadium, obviously, for Grit Week.
That stadium is like one of the coolest stadiums with the mountains in the background.

Speaker 1 Colorado being back would be nice.

Speaker 5 My cousin's a junior there. I'm pretty jealous of him.

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 5 He He gets the prime, prime years.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because

Speaker 1 he could have just had the worst four years. Yeah.
Well, I don't think you'd go to Colorado.

Speaker 5 That's the thing. You don't go to Colorado for football, so it's just an added bonus.

Speaker 1 Right, right. That's true.

Speaker 4 I love in that stadium, the giant black area behind the uprights on the one side. Ralphie, underrated mascot.

Speaker 1 Sean Salon.

Speaker 4 Football is better. Football is better when Colorado is good.

Speaker 5 And I'm excited for them to have missed kicks this year and we could just use the pictures of you when you're in full uniform. Yes.
That will be fun. Yes.
They're relevant.

Speaker 1 That'll be great.

Speaker 4 Can't wait. Or a maid kick, maybe, and we can celebrate the home.

Speaker 5 Well, no, it's like we need, it's like signed PFT.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 4 Yep. Good point.

Speaker 1 See, that's the thing.

Speaker 5 Everything I say, you guys

Speaker 1 look at them in. PFT, you gaslit them.

Speaker 4 I gaslit Hank on that one.

Speaker 1 No, it's like everything, everything I say

Speaker 5 through a negative lens. It's like, right.
You look through it a positive lens. Right.

Speaker 1 It's positive. That's what I was about to say.
Like you. Exactly.
Right. He's gaslighting you.
I know it's crazy. Into thinking that what that's crazy, PFT.
It's bullshit. It's bullshit.

Speaker 1 The reality is I didn't miss any.

Speaker 4 I nailed them all in my first try.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. Exactly.

Speaker 1 We have the videotape. Yeah, we'll put it out today.
First cut. I said, first, first song.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Let's get to Peter Schrager. Great NFL stuff.
We have Daniel Jeremiah and Tom McShea coming on Wednesday. So more NFL draft prep draft week.
Nothing better.

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Speaker 4 And now here's Pete Schrager.

Speaker 1 All right, we now welcome on very special guest, good friend of the program. You can see him every single morning on Good Morning Football.

Speaker 1 He's on paternity leave, though, right now, or he's back, but he's going to then go back on paternity leave. It is Peter Schraeger.
We're going to talk some draft. It is draft week.

Speaker 1 We have all of our guests lined up. We're going to do some of the mock draft guys on Wednesday, but we want to get you on Schrag's to talk about

Speaker 1 what these teams are thinking, what you're hearing. But before we do that, is Derrick Henry on the Eagles? Because

Speaker 1 none of us can figure it out. There's too many tweets about it.
No, he's not?

Speaker 10 Not now, no.

Speaker 10 And that was the first I heard of that this weekend.

Speaker 10 But I think once you get Howie Roseman and you get big swings everywhere, that, you know, and I think it was put out by Akbar, who I love, great dude. And that's not a usual source.

Speaker 10 You think, okay, well, that must be close to the situation. He wouldn't come out and just say, oh, sudden today I'm going to be an NFL insider.
No, it would have to be pretty firm.

Speaker 10 But the people I've checked with, that is not the case at the moment. But tennis season,

Speaker 10 constant revolving door mode right now. So nothing would surprise me at the draft.
But as of right now, no.

Speaker 10 Can I tell you guys what happened to me, though, this week, real quick before we get into the draft?

Speaker 10 I had a birthday on Thursday, and I've got three really good friends and they know what I'm interested in and they can get me a, you know, something. They could buy me a gift, anything.

Speaker 10 I wake up in the morning and I have a cameo waiting for me.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 10 I have a cameo waiting for me. I've never had a camera.
No one's bought me a cameo for my fantasy football draft.

Speaker 10 We once had Robert Woolf from Arlis like very earnestly like deliver like the draft results. That's the only time I ever used cameo.

Speaker 10 Frank the tank Fleming

Speaker 10 did a cameo and he did it so naturally. He's so smoothly.
It was almost like he was very comfortable doing it. And I asked, how much was this? And they're like, it was kind of a lot.
So

Speaker 10 I would be fascinated to know how many people have had Frank the Tank do birthday cameos and just what kind of second living he is making on the cameo market.

Speaker 4 Well, not second living. That's Frank's full-time job.

Speaker 1 He's the leaf. He's a cameo guy.

Speaker 4 Everything else is icing on top of that. Yeah, he's good at it.

Speaker 1 He's a cameo millionaire. I always say, like, if you walk around the office in August, Frank is just just sitting in a chair doing everyone's draft order.
He's like, all right, and Pat, you're one.

Speaker 1 Evan, you're two. Steve, you stink three.
And he's just ripping them all off. So he is a cameo millionaire.
It was the best.

Speaker 10 And he botched everyone's pronunciation of all my friends' names. He botched everything.
And I loved it. And then he got like angry at the end.

Speaker 10 I'm like, I don't even know what he's angry about, but I guess that's his bit. You know, like, all right, sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he got angry. Yeah.
Yeah. Yes.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Okay. So, yeah, go ahead, PFT.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Peter, I was just wondering, because last time you came on the show, you told us about the story of Ron Rivera hearing you talking shit about him, pulling you aside and saying, let's hash this out like men.

Speaker 4 Are there any coaches right now, right off the bat,

Speaker 4 that you're on their shit list?

Speaker 4 And if so, would you like to make amends to them on this podcast?

Speaker 10 Yeah, no. As of right now, I feel like I'm in...

Speaker 10 Pretty good shape. I'm going through the mental exercise right now.
I'm in pretty good shape with all of them. I think I'm in pretty good shape.

Speaker 10 Picked against the 49ers and picked the Eagles in the NFC Championship game. And they were well aware of that.
They weren't thrilled.

Speaker 10 And then they, you know, that's kind of like an asterisk game because of the injury, but they weren't thrilled for a while. But then that came around and everyone's good.

Speaker 10 But yes, Combine, I make amends with everyone. I kiss everyone's ass.
I get up there, hey, buddy, and it's all good.

Speaker 1 You should, going forward, if you do get on the wrong side of a coach, you should just come on the show and like a like a hate baton, just pass it off to us.

Speaker 1 Be like, yeah, like Jonathan Gannon is not happy with me. Just pass it off.
Like, we've always thought Jonathan Gannon is fucking moron. We don't.
And we'll just go. We'll go way deeper.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll go way deeper and we'll just, we'll take all the heat.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, that's a good question, though. All right, let's talk draft, though.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Let's start with one. Bryce Young's a Panther, right? We just, it's just set.

Speaker 1 We don't have to worry about it. He's a Panther.
There's no, there's nothing. That's what's going to happen, right?

Speaker 10 90, 90%, I would say, right now, as we record this. Yes, he's a Panther, but crazy stuff does happen.
And I've seen teams tell me it's 100%. And then three days later, it changes.

Speaker 10 Well, something came in late. So yes, I will say right now, Bryce Young's the Panther.
And then it gets really interesting at number two. Yes.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.
So let's just do it. Let's, I mean, we're hearing now,

Speaker 1 it feels like C.J. Stroud has like the free fall ability because at number two, there's now rumors that the Texans might not even take a quarterback.

Speaker 1 Is that all because Will Anderson would be there and D'Amico Ryans is an Alabama guy and a defensive guy and everyone's just doing the dot connecting.

Speaker 1 And then when we get to Thursday night, it's like, oh no, they took a quarterback. Duh.

Speaker 10 It's really interesting because I still think they might take a quarterback. But at two, they've got a couple things at play here.

Speaker 10 Now, Will Anderson is a name that everyone's throwing out because D'Amico and him went to Alabama, but that's not the defensive end type that the Niners had.

Speaker 10 They always had these big, long, rangy guys, whether it be Bosa and had Armstead and Buckner. And it was a totally different four-down defensive lineman is Tyree Wilson.
That's the guy.

Speaker 10 And the highest paid defensive line coach in the league is this guy, Chris Kuceric, who is at the Niners. And he's like a screamer and he's awesome.

Speaker 10 And he is the guy who teaches all these guys in the defensive line in San Francisco. He's a Texas tech guy, and he would know Tyree Wilson.
And D'Amico and him obviously are tight.

Speaker 10 So I'm not just saying because one guy went to Alabama, Nick Saban looks at D'Mico Ryan and says, you know what, young man, you should take Will Anderson. He's taking Will Anderson.

Speaker 10 I would add that their GM, Casario, last year at this time, everyone had them taking Sauce Gardner three or going with an offensive lineman like Ikia Kwanu, someone.

Speaker 10 And they took Derek Stingley at three. And he's got a guaranteed contract.
And at 15, I think they took Kenyon Green, who no one had. He's an offensive guard.

Speaker 10 So like the Texans are a perfect team for us at number two because anyone who tells you that they know exactly what they're doing, they're full of it. Yeah, which makes the draft really fun.

Speaker 4 That would be shocking to me, just at a human level. If a Texas Tech defensive player went number two overall, that'd be crazy.

Speaker 4 That would be like a complete, that would, that would fuck with my mind to no, to no end.

Speaker 10 Not what they're known for.

Speaker 4 No,

Speaker 4 it seems like CJ Stroud is falling because

Speaker 4 is it all because of the S2 test?

Speaker 1 No, because

Speaker 4 when the Panthers traded up, everybody was like, CJ Stroud, he's the guy. He's the guy.
So what, what is, I've heard about the S2 test. What is the S2 test?

Speaker 4 And how much does it actually factor into play who these guys are picking?

Speaker 10 I don't think the S2 test is. And I don't think CJ Stroud is plummeting.
I talked to teams, and a lot of the teams have CJ Stroud number one or two on their board.

Speaker 10 So he might go later than expected, but it's not like he's having some free fall out of the first round or anything. Stroud, okay, the S2 test.

Speaker 10 I do a podcast and I had on the guy a couple weeks ago before it became this bubbling up thing because I've been hearing from a lot of teams and half the teams in the NFL use this thing.

Speaker 10 I think it's two teams per division. And then, like, because of the contract that they have, they don't want to use more than two teams per division.
They want to just contract two teams per division.

Speaker 10 So you could connect the dots, which ones use them.

Speaker 10 The guy's name was Brandon Ally. He is one of the co-founders.
And it's basically, it's, it's, you know, the wonderlick for years was like train A leaves the station at 3 p.m.

Speaker 10 Train B leaves the station at 3.20 p.m. If train A, you know, it's an IQ test.

Speaker 1 The doctor's the mother, those type of things.

Speaker 10 Exactly. And it's like an IQ test, and you have four minutes and it's a one to 40 scale.
This thing is all about how you process information and how quickly you can process information.

Speaker 10 So you basically sit in this like virtual reality machine for 45 minutes, and there's objects flying at you, and you've got to yell out the objects.

Speaker 10 So, if you're a defensive back and you're taking the S2 cognition test, they can do it where there's like nine things going on the screen at once, and you're supposed to spot out, you know,

Speaker 10 image A, B, C, D, E, F, where are they in, what order. If you're a quarterback, it's quick processing.
Okay, this is covered up. What's that? So, it doesn't, it's not an IQ test.

Speaker 10 It doesn't grade your intelligence. It grades how quick you can process information in real time.
So the numbers that got leaked out there, like everyone's like, Bryce Young got 100.

Speaker 10 I actually heard there was a quarterback, and it wasn't from these guys, it was from another team that graded higher than Bryce Young. And he's not a day one pick, but

Speaker 10 the Stroud thing, you know, Bob McKinnon, who is

Speaker 10 Bob McKinnon, who's a really like, you know, respected journalist, he had scores. I don't have the actual numbers.
I don't know what Stroud got. I do know Bryce Young was exceptional.

Speaker 10 I do know Brock Purdy last year was exceptional.

Speaker 10 And I do know know there are other players in recent years that have you know gone on to great success who have high s2 scores then again that comes from the company so i don't know what to believe and what doesn't like when you hear this stuff and the company would say well we didn't put those numbers out but i can't imagine how those get out otherwise yeah it sounds like kyler murray would be awesome at that it's just like living in the metaverse

Speaker 10 playing a video game what'd you make of people being upset that the cardinals went out to be at Kyler Murray's statue unveiling.

Speaker 10 There were a lot of people in the league who are like, see, that's why they're the Cardinals. Instead Instead of grinding tape, they were at a, you know, Norman, Oklahoma.

Speaker 10 And my thing, it's like, that kid has been so beleaguered and dragged through the mud. Like, I think it's kind of nice to have all those people.

Speaker 10 It was their head coach, offensive coordinator, PR guys, their GM, all go to Norman, Oklahoma on an April weekend to support their quarterback.

Speaker 1 I think it goes a lot more. It was nice.
Yeah. It's nice.
It was nice. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Go ahead.

Speaker 4 I just thought that Steve Keim wasn't allowed out of the state of Arizona. That's what shocked me about it.

Speaker 1 Besides that, it was great.

Speaker 1 It was nice. And also, it's so weird sometimes when injuries happen later in the season.
Like, I have to keep reminding myself, Kyler Murray is not going to start the season next year.

Speaker 1 It's like the outside. So, a couple weeks out.
And a new staff, it's nice that they're like, hey, this is our guy, even though he's going to be out. I had one other C.J.

Speaker 1 Stroud question because it was the reason why we had a bub off online between

Speaker 1 Ryan Clark and Brady Quinn.

Speaker 1 Very fun whenever two media members do that.

Speaker 10 Especially two ex-players. Like, you don't get that.
Usually it's just angry guy on Twitter who writes for publication A versus angry guy on Twitter who works on, you know, publication D.

Speaker 10 This was 2X players getting in their feelings about C.J. Stroud's interviews.

Speaker 1 Go on. Yeah.
So

Speaker 1 the genesis of the argument was the rumor that C.J. Stroud ghosted the Manning Passing Academy last year.

Speaker 1 I think it's, you know, this is the time of year where everyone just throws out red flags and smokescreens.

Speaker 1 I honestly, and you could tell me I'm way off, but like most of these teams know who they're going with. They've already kind of made up their mind what their draft board looks like.

Speaker 1 So any of this new information, it's either they've already known it and it hasn't affected them or it just won't affect them, period. But my question to you is: if C.J.

Speaker 1 Stroud doesn't go two, Cardinals are at three.

Speaker 1 They could trade, but they don't pick a quarterback because they went to Kyler Murray's statue unveiling. Now you're at the Colts at four.

Speaker 1 And the one guy who probably, if he has a bone to pick, is Peyton Manning, who probably still has Jim Merce's year. Is that in any world a possibility that C.J.

Speaker 1 Stroud ghosting a passing academy could eventually affect his draft just because it landed on the Colts and Peyton Manning's like, hey,

Speaker 1 I want them to take Will Levis, not C.J. Stroud? No.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.
So

Speaker 1 none of it matters. None of it matters.

Speaker 10 I would say

Speaker 10 if that item, which I think, you know, Brady, he didn't go to the passing academy, that's for sure. But I don't know if he ghosted them.

Speaker 10 I think there obviously, Elofman said, and again, not from the Mannings, not from Brady Quinn, not from what I heard was he did give them a proper heads up that he wasn't going to be there.

Speaker 10 And he was at Ohio State that week. And I don't think the Mannings were up in arms over it by any means.

Speaker 10 I also think the Manning influence on the Indianapolis cult as a franchise might be blown out of proportion just a little bit because I've heard that, yes, they like Will Levis.

Speaker 10 I've also heard that there's people in the building who like Stroud.

Speaker 10 I hear, and we're recording this early in the week there are people in the building who like richardson more than both those guys so as we sit here and we're talking about this it's to me those three names and i think they are going to go quarterback but if it's richardson on thursday and rich eisen's mouth drops and we all go nuts I wouldn't be shocked because I've heard there's there's some real fans for Anthony Richardson in the Colts building too.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 10 I don't think Peyton Manning's pulling any puppet strings with the Indianapolis Colts. I have just too much respect for an entire front office, the GM.

Speaker 10 And as much as Ursae respects Manning, I don't think he's making that pick.

Speaker 1 Okay, I like that answer just because we like to live in the fan fiction world of

Speaker 1 NFL fandom. So that's like a fun connect your dots that I appreciate you being like, no, that's stupid.

Speaker 1 Because it is. But based off that question, you know everyone in the league.
You talk to all these guys. How, like, are there, they're set with their draft board.
There's no last-minute scouting.

Speaker 1 If a story comes out, like, obviously we have, you know, when someone has a week off thing.

Speaker 10 Yeah, right, on draft night but other than that like it's kind of set right i'd say up until this weekend it wasn't fully set and i'd say by the time you get to monday tuesday you look at your scouts you look at the infra what you get the feeling of you take a deep breath but everyone was working on it this past weekend and like the cardinals guys talked to some folks there and like their comment was yeah we were all together on a flight to norman oklahoma and back you don't think we talked about the draft at all during that time like everyone is is all hands-on and most of the guys were in the office this weekend not at kids' sporting events or whatever else.

Speaker 10 So, coaches, front offices, this was the weekend to kind of firm it all up.

Speaker 4 And just so you know, if it happens that the Colts do not pick him and they choose somebody else, if they don't choose C.J. Stroud, we are still going to sign that.

Speaker 4 It's because we did not attend the passing camp. And also, Peyton, the Manning family influence goes far beyond the Colts.

Speaker 4 Archie Manning runs the NFL. He's the shadow commissioner.

Speaker 5 He pulls all the strings going on.

Speaker 4 Big Cap brought up the Laramie Tunsell gas mask bong that got dropped on draft night. There are some legal issues for some of these guys that are kind of looming out there early in the first round.

Speaker 4 Jalen Carter might be, I don't know, some people have said that he's the best player in the draft. Are people scared at all about the legal situation in Georgia?

Speaker 4 And is that a possibility that it's going to affect his draft status? Or his draft stock, I should say.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I've heard from a couple of teams who are not in the top 10 that, you know, Carter is not their guy. So they wouldn't even take him.

Speaker 10 Then again, Drew Rosenhaus has been doing this for 30 years. He even said it.

Speaker 10 If he's not sending his guy on to interviews outside the top 10, Jalen Carter, for all intents and purposes, is going to go to the top 10.

Speaker 10 And the way that the draft shakes out, there are so many teams that need that player. So like the Seahawks at five.
Jalen Carter is a perfect fit for them.

Speaker 10 You go right down to the Eagles at 10. Jalen Carter would be a perfect fit in that defense.

Speaker 10 And with them having the luxury of two first-round picks and also all those guys in an NFC championship game, like Eagles and Jalen Carter would make a lot of sense. Lions have six and 18.

Speaker 10 If the Lions can't get Anderson or Wilson and they're looking at six, and it's like, do we take a corner or do we take this guy, Jalen Carter?

Speaker 10 And we trust that in our building, all the gambling stuff aside from this past weekend, like in our building, we've got the right guys and Dan Campbell and Aaron Glenn, like they can coach him up.

Speaker 10 I'd be shocked, shocked if Jalen Carter fell out of the top 10.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's also very easy for a team that's picking like 19 to say, you know what, if he falls to us, we're out.

Speaker 4 We're not going to touch that guy.

Speaker 1 Precisely.

Speaker 4 He's saying, like, if Emily Rajakowski asked me out, I'd be like, you know what? I got dinner plans with my cousin. That's right.

Speaker 10 If M. Ratt was to be interested in you, you're good.

Speaker 1 I'm all right. I'm out.
I'm out. Yeah.
Off the record. Yeah.
Off the record.

Speaker 10 Don't put it to me, but yes, off the record.

Speaker 10 I would also say with. Jalen, their Georgia guys have been very positive on him, and I think they rely on that a lot too.

Speaker 10 And that's, you think, well, every college is positive positive on their player, but apparently Kirby Smart and all those defensive coaches who are really valued around the league have been like, this is a good dude.

Speaker 10 And so whether he is or he isn't, I don't know him, but that's, he doesn't have the school being the ones to bury him, which we've seen in the past too.

Speaker 1 And yeah, and someone will take him, like you said, like we were laughing the other week. There was a report that teams were nervous about Stetson Bennett's off-field stuff.

Speaker 1 And it's like, well, no, he just wasn't going to get drafted in the top five rounds. Like if he was a top five quarterback, he would still get drafted as a top five quarterback.

Speaker 1 Like this is just how the NFL works.

Speaker 1 Yes. Right.

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Speaker 1 All right. So

Speaker 1 you brought up the Seahawks. Yeah.

Speaker 1 would it be crazy if the seahawks took a quarterback especially if these things drop because i think people a lot of times when we we were in the offseason the nfl you see the contract get tweeted by by chapter or radport and then you go on with your your life yeah geno smith signed a one-year deal he signed a one-year deal with you know he can he can make more but the seahawks are not tied to him long term so it feels like they are a sleeping team out there that's going to take possibly take a quarterback and and kind of upheaval the draft yeah so it's a one-year deal essentially for 27 million they also signed drew lock for just one year for essentially four million so you're saying your quarterback room is 30 million dollars for this year and then it's kind of wide open after that so it goes two ways right the first way is seattle this was a gift they didn't expect to have this pick but the russell wilson trade it's like a gift in their lap they're not going to be in the top five anytime soon because they've got such a young good roster so take the quarterback while he's there especially if one drops the other side of it is wow the nfc is wide open.

Speaker 10 The NFC West is wide open. What if we get an impact player that puts us over the top this year? And we trust Geno.

Speaker 1 They love Geno.

Speaker 10 But to your point, he's 32 years old. He hasn't started before last season for eight seasons.
He signed four one-year contracts up to this one.

Speaker 10 I would not be shocked if they went quarterback at five.

Speaker 10 But I would think five is such a rich draft pick, and they are so loaded with young players from the draft last year and the year before that if like Jalen Carter, Will Anderson, or Tyree Wilson is there, like they're going to go with the young defensive pass rusher.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.
So who is, you know, the Cardinals obviously most likely to trade, but they can't. What else are you hearing? And yeah, if they can, who, who else is like lingering to possibly trade up?

Speaker 1 And because that's the best part about the draft. One team just jumps and you're like, holy fuck, where'd they come from?

Speaker 1 Is it like what team is the most aggressive that you know

Speaker 10 or even things you've heard, like they're eyeing it if they can find their spot yeah i love when you hear that chime and it's like the pick is in and then the logo changes yeah

Speaker 10 it's great i think last year there was i could be wrong i think 12 in the first round 12 chance trades which is insane um

Speaker 10 so tennessee has an interesting situation tanne hills in a similar deal as geno where it's like he's under contract malik willis last year was a project and then when they needed him most they signed josh dobbs off the street to play in the week 18 game against the Jacksonville Jaguars so I'm not sure their future with Malik Willis and they have a new general manager who kind of has a blank slate on things they just have so many needs at wide receiver at offensive line at other places

Speaker 10 rand carthon's his name he comes from the 49ers but he was with the rams before that great dude uh he was maurice carthon's kid if you remember the giants from like the 90s um Awesome evaluator of talent, but also might want to put his stamp on things.

Speaker 10 And I, again, we talk about connecting the dots. Vrabel's an Ohio State guy.
If Stroud is there at three,

Speaker 10 maybe they go and they make a big play. They go and get CJ Stroud.
They have their quarterback. They feel pretty good about it.

Speaker 10 Or they stay at 11 and one of these guys will be there at 11 and they could be pretty content. But I think quarterback makes a lot of sense for Tennessee.
And they're one of those sweet spot teams.

Speaker 10 You move up a few places. Another team.
that I would keep an eye on, and I don't know if they would be able to move all the way up to three, but like Kirk Cousins' contract is done after this year.

Speaker 10 It's a one-year, $35 million deal, essentially. If the Vikings are looking for the future and one of these guys starts slipping past 10, past 11, past 12,

Speaker 10 again, new front office, new GM, new head coach. I mean, they're second-year guys.
Maybe they move up and they go and make a move and get one of them. I wouldn't be shocked with that either.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 4 we talk a lot on the show about the Commanders, probably too much for any show about the Washington Commanders.

Speaker 4 But there's a real football and draft implication in the ownership change that's happening right now.

Speaker 4 When it comes to the draft, are they going to have to operate differently at any level because they don't know who the new owner is going to be? That's like Dan's on the way out.

Speaker 4 There's a new guy coming in. They don't have his stamp of approval yet to make any significant moves

Speaker 4 salary-wise or making big splashes. Is that going to affect how the Washington commanders approach the draft this year?

Speaker 10 I think naturally, I would think whether they would approach it that way or not, there's a feeling of a little bit of, hey, let's win now. It does us all a favor.

Speaker 10 Let's get an impact guy who can contribute right away. So I don't see them taking a project quarterback.
I don't see them taking a guy that like Hendon Hooker, who you have to wait a year on.

Speaker 10 I think they're looking to compete this year with new owners coming who are going to be reanalyzing all this. And Ron's been through this.
When Tepper came in, it was like, all right, new owner.

Speaker 10 And okay, I got to deliver.

Speaker 10 So I have to think he and Martin Mayhew and their staffs are looking to get an impact player, whether that's, you know, and you say, say, well, they have Brian Robinson, but like, does that mean it's Bijan Robinson?

Speaker 10 Because you know that he right away can make an impact? Is it a receiver to go with Dotson and McLaurin where you're like, all right, we got to get more offense?

Speaker 10 Or is it just a corner that's going to start right away? But I don't see quarterback for them. I don't see any project players.

Speaker 10 I think naturally they're going to want to get guys that can play right away.

Speaker 10 And the guy I put in my mock draft, and I got feedback from a lot of people being like, he might not even be the first one off the board, is the Utah tight end, Dalton Kincaid,

Speaker 10 who, again, I'd be lying if I said I watched a ton of Dalton Kincaid during his season.

Speaker 1 I did.

Speaker 10 But you know what? You watch all the tape and all the stuff and you hear some words and he's not Travis Kelsey, but he's a really good tight end and BNME comes in and he knows how to use a tight end.

Speaker 10 So that might make some sense.

Speaker 1 Okay, so what's the one team and player you've heard over and over? Because it always feels like when we go in the draft, there's like one or two picks that everyone can kind of telegraph.

Speaker 1 It's like, this guy's going to be here and this team is going to take him.

Speaker 10 Yeah, that's why this draft is interesting. So I always have certain teams up top that like I feel pretty confident that I know like whatever it was.

Speaker 10 And if it was through Cliff or Khan, whatever, I've had the Arizona Cardinals for the last few years. I just knew where they were going, knew their board, and felt pretty good.

Speaker 10 Time and time again, I've had got.

Speaker 10 Because Houston's at two and no one in the league knows what they're doing, and because Arizona's at three and has basically put up a billboard to anyone in the league saying, come and get it.

Speaker 10 You can't in good faith say, all right, well, I know what Seattle's doing. I know what Detroit's doing, because there's going to be such a mix-up of the file.

Speaker 10 And I'm curious to see because Peter King on Monday mornings has a good article every year, draft week, and he's got good stuff too.

Speaker 10 I'm curious to see what he says because I have made all the calls over the past few days.

Speaker 10 And to a man, every single one of these GMs is asking me what I'm hearing, but also saying, of all the years, this is the least predictable up top because of so much possible action and intrigue.

Speaker 10 And with two, three, and four,

Speaker 10 no one having a dartboard pick, like, oh, that's the guy for for them, it makes five, six, seven, eight, and beyond pretty much irrelevant.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we all know that Jared Goff is the quarterback for the Lions, right? They're not going to take quarterback, right?

Speaker 1 I don't think they're going quarterbacks.

Speaker 10 Six or 18, I don't think they're going quarterback. That's what I, that's my intel.

Speaker 1 Yeah, good, good.

Speaker 4 He's a great player. Great player.

Speaker 1 We like Jared, right? We like Jared. Yeah.
No, Jared's our good friend.

Speaker 4 What about JSN? Stone Cold Locke, first wide receiver off the board?

Speaker 10 Him or Addison. And then I know a lot of teams really like the kid Johnston from TCU, who's a bigger body.
He's like six foot two.

Speaker 10 The wide receiver class, and it's nothing against those guys. They can go on to be amazing.
But just coming into this thing, there are no blue chippers. There are no top 10 picks.

Speaker 10 It is a different deal than last year where there was like six names that there was a run on them, and they were taken basically one by one by one by one, starting with Drake London.

Speaker 10 There's none of that this year.

Speaker 1 All right. So

Speaker 1 weird draft overall, by the way.

Speaker 10 Three really star players, Bryce Young, Bijan Robinson, Jalen Carter, and then maybe Will Anderson makes that.

Speaker 10 And then beyond that,

Speaker 10 there's a lot of good players, but it's not the draft where it's, okay, Micah Parsons and

Speaker 10 this guy and that guy and Jamar Chase. There's none of that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Bijan Robinson is interesting because... It feels like everyone has learned their lesson.

Speaker 1 Don't draft running backs very early in the draft because a lot of these guys don't get second contracts. Like it's just, it's not a position that you want to spend that type of draft capital in.

Speaker 1 I do think the Bears, there's a chance they take him. I will be mad, and then I'll become the biggest B.
John Robinson fan ever. I will completely be a hypocrite in that respect.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 like, do you think he could go as high? What's the highest you've heard Bijan Robinson going?

Speaker 1 I've heard

Speaker 1 the Falcons.

Speaker 10 Eight to Falcons does make sense, but I know it sounds like, all right, here's this transcendent generational talent, but they had a fifth-round pick at a BYU, you know, Tyler Elgier, who ran for a thousand yards last year.

Speaker 10 It's like, do you really need that?

Speaker 10 10 to the Eagles is just interesting because it's a luxury. They have so much talent, and it's like they just invested in Jalen Hurts.
Give this guy the ball for four years.

Speaker 10 Look, we're talented everywhere else. It's almost a gift that we have this 10th overall pick, and they can make that.
Like, 10th makes sense to me, to them.

Speaker 10 But I've heard Robinson and Gibbs, the running back from Alabama, are both first-round picks. I just don't know where they're going to go.
And that's kind of the fun of it.

Speaker 10 But yeah, I think anywhere from

Speaker 10 six to 15 for B. John Robinson.
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 Detroit six.

Speaker 10 Detroit has Montgomery and Swift. So I don't know why they would do that.
But I'm just giving you that range.

Speaker 1 Right. It's crazy.
And then I feel like we did learn our lesson.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we have.

Speaker 4 The market hasn't over-corrected yet either. I think the market has just perfectly corrected to understand the value of running backs, especially as Pit Kat said, like pertains to their contract.

Speaker 4 Are there there any other running back? Like, who's the second running back off the board, and when do you expect him to go?

Speaker 10 Gibbs out of Alabama, Jameer Gibbs. I think he'll go late first.
I could see him going Giants, Cowboys,

Speaker 10 Chiefs at 31. Like,

Speaker 10 he's really talented. He's compared to Chimara, and that's not like it's some crazy hyperbole.
He's really good.

Speaker 10 The thing with it, like, you know, Saquon was offered $12.5 million at the bye week for multiple years, said no, goes to

Speaker 10 the contract negotiations. Daniel Jones signs the long-term deal.
The franchise Saquon is making 10 million now, and it's like no one's crying for Saquon. It just, it just stinks.

Speaker 10 It's just what it is. Austin Eckler goes on Chris Long's show and says, I want to be traded.
There's like tumbleweeds around the league. Like, no one even flinches.
And Eckler's amazing.

Speaker 10 So when Isaiah Pacheco and Jarek McKinnon are carrying the load in a Super Bowl, it's hard to make the argument for a running back in the top 10.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you mentioned how this draft class is so weird compared to some of the others.

Speaker 4 You don't have to answer this right now, but it would be awesome if we could go back and we could put together your starting lineup on offense and defense based off just draft class and see which draft class over the last 10 years would win.

Speaker 4 We should put in a bracket, actually. That's a good idea for Billy.

Speaker 10 We should have Billy do a bracket and then have the results already, but then seed them so they can square off.

Speaker 4 Exactly. Yeah.
And then he can do like hypothetical matchups. Well, this guy's a great left tackle, but he would get his lunch eaten against this one particular guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 We'll do that. We will absolutely do that.
It's also interesting. I mean, I think it's just the norm now because

Speaker 1 five quarterbacks will go in the first round. Can I say that? Confidently.
Four. I don't know about Hooker.
You don't know about.

Speaker 10 At first, I put Hooker all the way up at like 11 in my mock draft last week, and a lot of guys in the league were like, yeah,

Speaker 10 that's rich.

Speaker 10 I think the best thing for Hooker would be a team trading back into the first round, getting the fifth year on him. So you have this red shirt year with him, and you still get four more years.

Speaker 1 But it is crazy that we went, you know, it was, there's obviously the

Speaker 1 famous Dan Marino John Elway draft that was six quarterbacks in the first round. But other than that, it's, it's, there was five quarterbacks in the 99 draft and then the 2018 draft.

Speaker 1 Then there was another one, what, two years ago? Yeah. So it's now, yeah, so we're going to have like three, three of the last five years.
There'll be five quarterbacks drafted in the first round.

Speaker 1 That's just what the league is now, I guess.

Speaker 10 I guess. And like next year, you know, and again, it's early.
And I remember saying.

Speaker 1 No, it's never too early. Don't say that.

Speaker 1 We actually start putting out our mock drafts for next year before this draft.

Speaker 10 Before, before.

Speaker 10 But remember, the year before Matt Barkley was drafted in the fourth round, everyone the year before was like, well, you could pass on a quarterback because Matt Barkley is going to be number one overall.

Speaker 10 You don't know.

Speaker 10 And I think Matt Barkley is still playing, by the way. So who am I? Shut up.

Speaker 10 But the

Speaker 10 next year's class, there's a kid from North Carolina, May. There's obviously a kid out of USC.
And then there's a guy up at Washington that everyone loves too.

Speaker 10 That those three could be better than all these guys. you know? So who knows?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's true. All right.
So without burning any of your sources and pissing anyone off,

Speaker 1 I have a long-standing feeling in all of sports, not just the NFL, but there's a lot of front offices where the job is to keep the job.

Speaker 1 And by that, I mean they just want to do whatever's safe to make sure that they can keep doing the same job over and over, not take big swings, not draft someone that then everyone's like, what an idiot.

Speaker 1 On the flip side, what is the one or two front offices that you're confident like they will take the big swing, they will be aggressive, they are not worried about their job, uh, they're here to try to win Super Bowls.

Speaker 10 Yep, uh,

Speaker 10 always Mickey Loomis with the New Orleans Saints does not give a shit about mock drafts. He's been there since the year 2000.
He's built Super Bowl winner, and Peyton's gone, but Mickey's still there.

Speaker 10 Um, they're at the end of the first round. Remember, they traded, you know, to get get Chris Olave last year.
They traded up to get Marcus Davenport a few years ago. He is the most fearless and

Speaker 10 has carte blanche. So he's won.
The other team that I think could take a really big swing if they wanted to move up to get their guy or to just take the guy at 10 is the Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 10 I don't think...

Speaker 10 anyone's got more, you know, you talk about a pendulum swinging whether it's, you know, over the time. But right now, I feel like Harry Roseman has the cards in his favor.

Speaker 10 And I feel like they got so close to a Super Bowl that he can make the justification to the owner and to the fans that, hey, I felt like this player, we had to go get him, and that's going to put us to win a Lombardi this year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, good answers. I didn't think of the Saints.

Speaker 10 Well, Saints are like irrelevant because they're at the end of the first round.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but no, you're right. That's what they do.
Yeah, they do do that.

Speaker 4 My favorite tradition on draft day is Roger Goodell getting booed, and he's become smart recently. He's kind of leaned into a little bit, but he also.

Speaker 10 He likes it.

Speaker 4 He likes it. He likes it a little bit too much.
My favorite part is when sometimes he'll bring out the human shields to protect himself from the booze.

Speaker 4 So he'll have either the troops on stage when he comes out or he'll have like little kids that get walked out with them.

Speaker 1 PFT, PFT, you got to say, he usually has a troop with like an amputee that he goes all the way.

Speaker 4 They're capital T troops. They are

Speaker 4 T troops that he brings out. What do you think he's going to do to shield himself?

Speaker 4 He could honestly.

Speaker 10 I got it. I know it already.

Speaker 4 Okay. I don't know.
You go first. And then

Speaker 4 I just hit myself with it, but you go first.

Speaker 10 Okay.

Speaker 10 Kansas City.

Speaker 10 This is a no-brainer. You've got all these celebrities that are like beloved.
You've got Jason Sudeikis is a Kansas City guy, beloved. You've got Eric Stone Street, Kansas City, beloved.

Speaker 10 You've got David Kechner. You go right down the list.
Paul Rudd, all these guys. They're all beloved.

Speaker 10 There is a nice win here if he comes out with some of my buddies and he's out there with all these celebrities and no one's going to be booing David Kechner or Jason Sudekis.

Speaker 10 I mean, Jason Sudekis right now is 100% approval rating. I don't think anyone's booing them, especially in Kansas City.
That's how you play that card.

Speaker 4 Okay, I agree with you, but I actually think you're right on the money. There are so many well-loved celebrities there.
What he should do, he should take the one guy that they'll probably boo.

Speaker 4 and bring him out. And then he'll be like, oh, they're booing.

Speaker 4 He should go out on stage with Jackson Mahomes and have jackson mahomes record a live tick tock yeah on stage right in front of gadell and then he'll be like they're booing this guy not me

Speaker 10 it's perfect it's perfect jack

Speaker 10 take it away jackson and yeah goes and it does it and i would love it it'd be great and for the record we're jackson mahomes fans so am i

Speaker 10 we think he's hilarious i met him at the afc championship game last year i was on the field before the game and uh i'm i got the credential and i'm acting like a big shot and there he is i shot my shot i went up to him i said yo bro, good to meet you.

Speaker 10 He's like, thanks, man. It was cool.
He was great. I loved him.
And so now, I mean, everyone wants to knock him. I think that's such low-hanging fruit.
Can you imagine being Jackson Mahomes?

Speaker 10 That's a tough life, man.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 it's also a very funny thing because Patrick Mahomes is like what everyone should aspire to be in terms of like the most loyal family member, right? Like he's ride or die with his family.

Speaker 1 Why are we criticizing that?

Speaker 1 I'll add one more because I was thinking Jackson Mahomes as well. What if we had Jackson come out and Brittany and Brittany had a champagne bottle, and in the champagne bottle was cash.

Speaker 1 So she just sprays the whole crowd with cash.

Speaker 1 Everyone gets some cash. Perfect.

Speaker 10 I still think in Kansas City, though, I think they like Jackson.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, of course.

Speaker 10 So I don't even know if you get those booze that way.

Speaker 1 I feel like

Speaker 1 they're fancy. We get cheers.
We get cheers.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 I had one last question, Peter. This has been awesome.
Give it up for Chicago.

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Speaker 1 Last question, not about the draft. Okay.

Speaker 1 The Lions thing that we mentioned, the gambling issue. What exactly happened? And

Speaker 1 if I can understand it correctly, they just made a bet on another sport in the Lions facility.

Speaker 1 There should be a rule in the NFL that, like, if you lose the bet, you can't be also suspended. That's like, that should be double jeopardy.
Like, if he lost, that was the thing with Calvin Ridley.

Speaker 1 Like, the dude was losing parlays. You shouldn't get suspended for losing parlays.
If he was winning, different.

Speaker 1 But so, what happened? And how did it go down? And how many people ended up getting fired?

Speaker 10 I think six guys got hit with it and two of them are still on the team. I think some of the other guys got cut and then Jamison Williams is just six games and another guy is just six games.

Speaker 10 The way I read it into it, and look, I work for the NFL, so I have to take a full,

Speaker 10 you know, HR mandatory gambling policy. I don't participate in fantasy football.
I don't participate in March Madness tournaments.

Speaker 10 And I cannot go into a sports book and place, you know, bets as just an employee of the NFL. And the players, you know, everyone on Twitter was like, that's such BS because

Speaker 10 they're in bed with all these different gambling companies. I think the players have to get similar training.
They're well aware of it.

Speaker 10 And the rule is in the facility, they cannot bet on other sports and they can't log in. And they have activation, you could find the IP address, and there's all sorts of ways that they can track that.

Speaker 10 I believe Miles Austin, who was a Jet, the former Cowboys receiver, was working for the Jets. He too got stung with that during the season, placing a bet on his phone in the facility on another sport.

Speaker 10 And, you know, the people there were like, I didn't, you know, I didn't even know that was what, but okay, like, it's what it is. The rule is the rule.

Speaker 10 Um, the players are signed on through the CBA that they know the deal. I think, I don't know if I'm speaking out of term, but like, they have to go through rigorous training on the gambling policy.

Speaker 10 So, if they did not know it and they get to, like, I guess they got to deal with the consequences.

Speaker 1 So, can you text Roger? Uh, because I know you're close personal friends of them and just tell him that, like, if you, if it's a losing bet, they shouldn't get suspended.

Speaker 1 They should also release all the bets. Like, I want to see what Jameson Williams.
Yeah, I want to see if Jameson Williams was like, he was betting on the Reds on a Tuesday afternoon.

Speaker 1 Because, like, if he lost that bet, he should not be suspended. That's my thought.

Speaker 10 Your thought is they've already lost the money. Why?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Right. Like, you can't, it's double jeopardy.
I think illegally it is. You're already getting silly on the risk.
You've lost. You've lost.
Don't also take away their jobs.

Speaker 10 Yeah. You know, the NFL is pretty strict on the gambling thing.
And they got a beating from all the people and the critics online and all the ex-players. Like, no, wait, hold on a second.

Speaker 10 You're going to tell me you're going to take the draft.

Speaker 10 I think it's a really serious issue, and they are well-versed. The Players Association knows the rules, and I think that's just the deal.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 Peter, I have one last, last question. This is from

Speaker 4 our good friend Memes. He works on the show.
He does,

Speaker 4 he runs the social for us.

Speaker 10 Constantly doing Islanders hockey on Twitter, though.

Speaker 1 Okay, but go on. Let's go.

Speaker 10 Yep. Yep.

Speaker 4 Huge Isles fan, huge Jets fan as well. So he wanted to ask you

Speaker 4 if you personally would trade the 13th overall pick for a 39-year-old Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 10 I would not.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 10 I would not.

Speaker 10 I have no assurance that he's with me next year or the year after that. I would need some sort of

Speaker 10 conditional situation. I wouldn't give the first round pick for a 39-year-old quarterback, whoever it is.

Speaker 10 And in Rodgers' case, when you say that you're 90% retired before going into the darkness retreat, I think it's kind of tricky for a team to give up a first-round pick when you hear that on thing.

Speaker 10 But trust me, the Jets want Rodgers. They cannot wait to have Rodgers.
They will get Rodgers. My prediction is

Speaker 10 night two, it probably goes down. And it might involve one of those, the 42nd or 43rd pick, which they have back-to-back, and then some other conditional stuff beyond that.

Speaker 1 Okay, because

Speaker 4 it's so interesting because it seems like neither team has the leverage in this situation. No.

Speaker 4 Because Aaron's told the Packers he doesn't want to play for them. So the Jets know that he is not going to be a Green Bay Packer.
And the Jets, the Players.

Speaker 1 They don't want Tech Wilson.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the Packers know that. So it seems like Aaron Rodgers is the one with leverage, and his ultimate leverage is actually just walking away from $50 million, which isn't that much leverage either.

Speaker 4 So it's like a non-leverage game.

Speaker 10 Yeah, and I think the interesting thing is why I mentioned that 42nd and 43rd pick.

Speaker 10 It's like the second you get to night three of the draft, you're losing an entire year's worth of draft picks that you could trade the Packers.

Speaker 10 Like the value of next year's picks is way less than this year's because they want their picks to play next season. Like they want them to feel.

Speaker 10 They don't want these fictional, you know, picks from way down the road. So if they don't trade one of those second round picks, like this thing could drag on even more.

Speaker 1 I just want the Packers to take a wide receiver in the first round season. Sick people badly.
Dude, I think they might. Oh, it'd be the funniest thing ever.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it'd be a spike pick. I want to see a spike pick.

Speaker 10 The way it works, like, truly, the way it's working out, like, I think all those receivers could be available at 15.

Speaker 10 They have never taken a receiver or a tight end in all of his years in the first round. And I think they might take a receiver or a tight end.
And yeah, you know what?

Speaker 10 This doesn't come from the Packers, but the word I've got from a lot of different people is like, look, he goes on McAfee. I thought he was pretty eloquent.
I thought he was pretty good.

Speaker 10 The Jets loved it. Everyone was going.
When you don't thank the GM, when you don't thank the current president, like, all right, like little things like that,

Speaker 10 we'll take a receiver and we'll make sure Jordan Love is going to have as much success as possible next season.

Speaker 1 That would be awesome. Yeah, he might be whatever, whatever receiver they take, I might be the only Packer I ever root for in my entire life.

Speaker 10 Can you imagine being Rodgers in the pandemic? It's 2020, and you're like right on the cusp.

Speaker 10 You just won the MVP, and they trade up, and you're like, oh, shit, we're getting Brandon Ayuk or we're getting Jordan Jetta, whatever it was. And they took a quarterback.

Speaker 1 I mean, in hindsight, it's wild.

Speaker 1 It's wild.

Speaker 4 He's like trying to change the channel from the draft and Fauci's on the news and going back to it. He's like, goddamn torture.

Speaker 1 It's not my night. Not his night.

Speaker 10 Fauci in the Packers' front office.

Speaker 1 Not his favorite folks. Yes, yes.
All right. Well, thank you so much, Peter.
We appreciate it.

Speaker 1 Good luck on paternity leave after the draft. That was a sneaky genius move by you.
You went paternity leave, then NFL draft, then a little more paternity leave. Left yourself a little something.

Speaker 1 Broke it up. A little meat on the bone.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I found out.

Speaker 10 Yeah, it was awesome.

Speaker 1 I found out a few weeks ago that we have like four month paternity leave stool.

Speaker 10 I've got like, I get like, I took

Speaker 10 three weeks and then I get two more. So I get five weeks, which I'm fired up about.

Speaker 1 But four months, bro? Yeah. Has anyone taken it?

Speaker 10 Because there's this whole other part of it where it's like, if you actually take the full thing, like, do you start feeling the itch to get back?

Speaker 1 It's toxic work culture. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. No, I'm all for toxic work culture.

Speaker 1 That's why we tell Hank never to take a vacation.

Speaker 4 Well, Hank's going to become a sperm donor just so that he can take four months' maternity leave like five times a year.

Speaker 10 Because I was on that third week, and it was like,

Speaker 10 it's, I will be, I just am ready to kind of get involved in the NFL mix again.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 yes, yes. All right.
Well, thanks so much, man. Appreciate it.
And good luck on all the draft stuff you got going on on Thursday.

Speaker 10 You guys are awesome. PFT, my condolences to you.
I thought what you said at the start of the podcast last week was beautiful and spoke to a lot of people. You guys are awesome.

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Speaker 1 I'm going to wrap it up with lottery ball. I also, Max has a, Max sleptwalk.

Speaker 1 Max sleptwalk, because I, did you get incepted in sleepwalking? I don't know. We have been talking a lot about sleepwalking in the past couple weeks, so it was strange that it happened when it did.

Speaker 1 And what happened?

Speaker 1 By the way, the Oilers just tied it up 4-4, and

Speaker 1 the Timberwolves are going to not get swept. So retract what I said about them getting swept.

Speaker 4 Let's go, wolves.

Speaker 1 They're back.

Speaker 1 Max, you sleptwalk? Yeah, it was bad. It was not the best

Speaker 4 situation of sleepwalking.

Speaker 1 Last night, I woke up. I slept at my girlfriend's apartment, woke up,

Speaker 1 went to bed in her bed, woke up in her roommate's bed with her.

Speaker 1 With her roommate.

Speaker 1 Max.

Speaker 1 Wait,

Speaker 1 did you pee any? I was like, cuddling? No,

Speaker 1 there was no peeing. There was no cuddling.
But I did wake up. I woke up at 8:30 this morning and I looked up and I was like, this is weird.
Am I sleeping? Wait, you slept the whole night?

Speaker 1 The whole night. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 With my girlfriend's roommate. This is a great excuse.

Speaker 1 This is a great excuse. Yes.
No, no, it actually, it wasn't a big deal at all. Wait, so what happened when you woke up? So I woke up and I just looked at the ceiling.
I was like, this is weird.

Speaker 1 Like, I know I slept here and I, I just turned over and I was like, oh my God.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 like, luckily, she's great. Like, we're friends.
Shout out, Meg. Meg.
I mean, you sleep in the same bed, but

Speaker 1 I just looked at her. I was like, what the fuck am I doing in here? And she's like, you tell me, brother.

Speaker 1 Wait, did your girl, were you able to get back to your bed? Yeah, no, I didn't. Was she woke up? Your girlfriend woke up? No, no, no.
I went immediately. I was like, I just slept in Meg's bed.

Speaker 1 Was she already awake when you were? No,

Speaker 1 she was asleep, but I

Speaker 1 mean, I was like, that's probably the worst case scenario.

Speaker 1 That was her.

Speaker 1 But I thought she was going to be like.

Speaker 1 She was pretty much on phase. She stayed asleep the entire time.
I was like, what the fuck am I doing in here? She was like, I don't know. And then just like went, went, continued sleeping.

Speaker 1 Were you farting?

Speaker 1 I was definitely snoring.

Speaker 1 You was farting. I was probably farting, too.

Speaker 1 Did you pee? You farted something. No, I did not pee.
I did not pee. That would have been.
Oh, my God, Max. That's so bad.
Yeah, no.

Speaker 1 That's how bad you're thinking about Hank and the Celtics that you're just sleepwalking. The soul patch is the two months.

Speaker 5 Yeah, how do you think Meg would have felt if she woke up next to a beardless guy with a soul patch? Would that have changed anything?

Speaker 1 Also, this is so crazy that Max, like, for all the tough talk he's had, you know, when the sixers went ahead of the celtics for those couple days and we leaned into it

Speaker 1 the the two months is only if you get swept you clearly think you're gonna get swept well i don't know what the mvp you don't even know what he's like right now he's gas i tell you what

Speaker 1 gas is the wrong word out of shape gas is the wrong word you think you're gonna get swept

Speaker 1 i don't think that they're gonna get swept but i am i am scared how'd you feel about doc rivers comments about the mri

Speaker 1 No, that's Doc.

Speaker 1 No, he's doing little mind games. He wants the Celtics.
Yeah. He wants

Speaker 1 a bad MRI. You said a bad MRI?

Speaker 1 A sprained knee is nothing.

Speaker 1 Anything.

Speaker 1 I could have a sprained knee right now.

Speaker 1 Well, you probably do.

Speaker 5 You are an NBA player.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 What does that prove? Dude, I'll sprain my knee right now. I swear to God.
I'll fucking do it.

Speaker 4 I've been sitting here producing this whole podcast with a sprained knee.

Speaker 1 I'll do anything with it. My toe.
I could have a sprained toe right now. Easily.

Speaker 5 So we did the MRI. It just feels like whenever they tell a coach we're going to get an MRI, it doesn't turn out well most of the time.
And this one did not.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, Max.

Speaker 1 He's he's the best part about all this is when he got injured we were tech because Max was at the game We're like and beads injured and he's like no He's not you guys are lying Turns out we were right

Speaker 1 no you were trying to lie. No, you were you were no I I said he was injured.
And

Speaker 1 you guys were just fucking with me that entire game. Turns out we were exactly right.
Yeah, not like, not really, though. This is going back to the same thing with the UCLA.
Like, he was injured.

Speaker 1 He had a bad, he had a sprained knee. This is not the UCLA.
He had a sprained knee when I texted you. No.
Yeah. No, he literally had.
I was waiting for the MRI.

Speaker 1 We've already seen the MRI. He literally had a sprained knee when he sprained his knee, and then I texted you.
The MRI doesn't sprain his knee.

Speaker 1 It, but when you texted me the UCLA thing, we hadn't seen the MRI. That's all I kept saying.
He was touring Achilles. It's the same thing.
I don't think you understand how injuries work.

Speaker 1 When you get injured, you're injured. The MRI just confirms that you were injured.
Correct. But he was injured.
I said he's injured. Yes.

Speaker 1 And we've already discussed that. Enbiet is hurt.
He's not injured. Okay.
Bad MRI. Not a bad.

Speaker 4 Wait, did Doc say

Speaker 4 he said this time it did not, was he saying this time it did not deliver bad news?

Speaker 1 Like he's

Speaker 1 I was thinking that too. Good point, PFD.

Speaker 5 No. Say it again.

Speaker 1 Hank, read the quote again.

Speaker 5 There was swelling already, which was too early. So we did the MRI.
It just feels like whenever they tell a coach we're going to get an MRI, it doesn't turn out well most of the time.

Speaker 5 And this one did not.

Speaker 4 So that might be like this one did not turn out badly.

Speaker 1 Give me this quote. Let me see this quote.

Speaker 4 That's a tough quote. Doc needs to clean it up.

Speaker 1 He was complaining about some sore in his foundini, which is always a scary thing in his foundini. There's swelling already, which is too early, so we did the MRI.

Speaker 1 It just feels like whenever they tell a coach we're going to get an MRI, it doesn't turn out well most of the time, and this one did not.

Speaker 4 I honestly have no idea.

Speaker 1 I think it's a bad MRI.

Speaker 1 I think it's a bad MRI.

Speaker 4 The fact that we're talking for this long about an MRI makes me believe it's probably not a good MRI.

Speaker 1 No, he could have stubbed his toe and you guys would have been talking about this for this long.

Speaker 4 This was an MRI.

Speaker 1 I mean, he just falls so much. But he does it on purpose.
Max.

Speaker 1 I've got him doing that. No, it's better.
It's better that he falls. Wait.

Speaker 4 Fact or fiction, would you get an MRI if you weren't hurt? Like a recreational MRI?

Speaker 1 Just to just check it out? Actually, I would.

Speaker 1 Just because I'd like to see, like, what's going on. Like a full body scan? Past sight out of mind.
But wait.

Speaker 1 If he keeps falling and you're like, it's better that he's falling, but he keeps getting hurt, maybe he should try to stop falling?

Speaker 1 No, the falling is good. The falling.
But he keeps getting hurt. But you don't know what it would be like if he...

Speaker 1 It couldn't be worse than always getting hurt. It could be worse.
He played basically the whole year this year. The timing of it sucks.
I'm not going to. This happens every year at this time.

Speaker 1 I know, and that sucks, and that's unfortunate. but it has like

Speaker 1 everyone's getting hurt this

Speaker 1 playoffs. All right.

Speaker 1 Why is it just MB'd?

Speaker 1 Whatever. Oh, man.

Speaker 4 The falling is good.

Speaker 1 The falling is good. That is the thing.

Speaker 1 Memes and I were watching a video on it earlier today.

Speaker 5 Memes back me up. What, the one that was like the MVP, this is the MVP, this is disgusting for the league, and it was just a flop compilation?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 It's not a flop.

Speaker 1 He chooses to fall because it's better for his body. See, you wouldn't understand.

Speaker 1 You don't get it. You don't get it.
You don't get it. You don't get it.

Speaker 1 I love this, Hank, because Max is so flustered. He has no answers.
And Hank's just fucking, he's not even doing anything.

Speaker 1 He's just stating facts, and it just wants him in a tailspin. That's all I ever do.
That's true. That's what I've been saying.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 I've always said that you just say facts. No looks, just facts.
No fiction.

Speaker 4 Right. Just facts.

Speaker 1 And people keep coming at you.

Speaker 4 Just facts. It's bullshit.

Speaker 1 76. Yeah.
I hope Hank gets a lottery ball today.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Max. He's gaslighting.
That's not true. Don't let him do that.
That's not true. No, that was genuine.
No, no, no, it wasn't. No, it wasn't.
That was gaslighting.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Hank, have you ever gotten this? Nope.

Speaker 1 I am not rooting for you to get this. I am.

Speaker 1 Numbers. 16, 17,

Speaker 1 20. I can see it right here.

Speaker 4 76.

Speaker 1 18.

Speaker 1 1.

Speaker 1 1.

Speaker 1 What should I go with? What has Hank been going with?

Speaker 7 Last two have been double numbers: 55, 99.

Speaker 4 In April, we've also seen 77 twice.

Speaker 1 I'll go 66.

Speaker 1 I feel like this angle of it, Hank, you should get it way more often than you did. That's what he thinks.

Speaker 4 It's a hot seat.

Speaker 1 21.

Speaker 1 21

Speaker 4 that's closer than usual Hank.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're kind of close.

Speaker 4 Four off.

Speaker 1 You should celebrate that one. Nah.

Speaker 1 Why not?

Speaker 7 Nah. Eighth time, tied for a second.

Speaker 1 Eighth time.

Speaker 1 I should just start guessing 21. We should all should.

Speaker 1 You think about guessing 21 next time?

Speaker 9 I won on 21 ones.

Speaker 1 This doesn't count. Come back from base.
No, can we make it count? Nope.

Speaker 1 I hope the second team is so survived.

Speaker 1 35.

Speaker 1 Doesn't count.

Speaker 1 Alright guys. Yeah, we'll see everyone on Wednesday.

Speaker 9 The Siberian forest cat can survive in temperatures down to five degrees Fahrenheit.

Speaker 4 Let me get that.

Speaker 4 I ain't shying away.

Speaker 4 I've been coming for your love of me.

Speaker 4 Take

Speaker 4 me

Speaker 4 up.

Speaker 4 I

Speaker 4 need it gone.

Speaker 4 Needless to say,

Speaker 4 I'm on set it's about being stonewave.

Speaker 4 Stone

Speaker 4 life is okay.

Speaker 4 Say after me.

Speaker 4 It's no better, to be safe, it's on me, to be safe, it's on me.

Speaker 4 I'll be

Speaker 4 gone

Speaker 4 after

Speaker 4 I'm

Speaker 4 gone.

Speaker 4 I'll be

Speaker 4 gone.