Josh Duhamel, Corey Kispert, Tom Brady Retires (Again) And Fyre Fest Of The Week

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On today's part of my take, we got a twofer for the people. We have actor Josh Duhamel.
Awesome interview in person, talking about his career, talking about the Vikings. He's a huge Vikings fan.
He kind of outtakedaked us as well which hasn't really happened often on this show i'm comfortable not going to the places that he went yeah but i've been there i've been there he outtaked us uh we also have cory kispert from the washington wizards in studio uh great two interviews we're going to talk tom brady retiring again uh get ready for we have super bowl week. Fire Fest of the week.
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Today is Fri-yay, February 3rd, and Tom Brady has retired again this time because Hank broke his heart.

Yeah, it's back-to-back retirements.

Two consecutive retirements for Tom Brady.

He's the GOAT at that, too.

Not a dynasty, but a nice little run.

He is officially retiring this time.

Last time, I think he said he was walking away from the game.

Yeah.

Taking some time away from the game, being with his family.

This time, it sounds like it's official official. He cried a little bit in his retirement video.
He said you only get one emotional Instagram post, and he used that up last year, thanking Hank and the Brady Four. So there will be no more thanks to Hank for all the support throughout the years.
He says it's because you can't get two of those, but I think we all know he's not posting another thank you

to Boston sports fans because Hank broke his little heart

and drove him out of the NFL by turning his back on him

at his very last career game.

I have a little fact or fiction.

Let's play real quick, Hank.

It's your favorite game.

Fact or fiction, Tom Brady played 23 years in the NFL

with only one true retirement. We're not counting last year's retirement.
Fact or fiction? Fiction. What? He didn't play 23 years in the...
No, the second part is fiction. What do you mean? He's had two retirements.
Yeah, but this is the real retirement. You can't do both fact and fiction.
It's like you're either pregnant or you're not pregnant. Fact or fiction, Tom Brady retired last year.
Okay, but he didn't. No, he didn't because we all knew it was fake and he came back.
Hank, can you look up what the definition of retirement is for me? Actually, Jake, can you check that out? Yeah, I think he submitted his retirement. No, he didn't.
No, he actually didn't. Factor fiction, in the 23 years that Tom Brady played in the NFL, you defended him for 22 out of the 23 years.
Fiction. What? 23 out of 23.
Oh, okay. Interesting.
That is fiction. I'm going to take Hank's side on that one.
Hank defended Tom Brady, not for 22 years. He defended him for 22 years and 51 weeks.
Yes. Of his NFL career.
And then in the last possible moment, when Tom Brady looked up at the wall. When he needed him most.
And when he was like, who's still on this wall the wall is a patriots thing tom brady was or hank was standing next to tom brady with his jorts and dak prescott jersey on he's like hey buddy and just stabbed him right in the heart and then twisted it and tom brady said if i've lost hank i've lost everyone i'm retired fact or fiction i got a couple for you Okay. Tom Brady's greatest winner of all time.
I'd say

maybe...

Maybe. Genghis Khan was pretty good.
Fact or fiction,

I won the bet. What?

The Cowboys bet. Yeah, if that makes you

sleep better at night. Well, no, you didn't.

They're not in the Super Bowl.

But they...

Wait!

Did you bet on the Cowboys that week, or was

it just your future? No, I guess it was both. He doubled down.
No, he just said that it was just the future. It was just the future.
That's pathetic. Yeah.
You sold Tom Brady. You sold him out.
You guys are trying so hard to make us about me. You sold him out for two weeks' salary.
It has nothing to do with me. I just sold the Cowboys.
Pathetic. The guy loves football.
He's one of the greatest competitors of all time. And for some reason this year, something changed where he's like, I'm walking away from the game officially.
What could have changed? Oh, maybe Hank turned his back on. I did.
You know, with friends like Hank, who needs enemies, right? Yeah. All right.
So, Hank, we won't make it about you. Listen, Tom Brady.
Thanks. It does feel like he's officially retired this time.
Would we say? You said 25% chance he comes back? I still think he could come back, yeah. The only reason I feel like he might be fully retired.
There's crazy injuries. Yeah.
But the only reason I think he might be fully retired this time is he did always say in all these interviews that he was going to play to 45. He's 45 years old right now.
He'd be 46 next year. So, maybe he's done he's proved it all and this year obviously wasn't wasn't really fun for him so new chapter what were you gonna say jake retirement now the action or fact of leaving one's job and ceasing to work okay so did he come back to work or did he just leave but he ceased to work no no well for the offseason at the time he ceased to work but it was for the offseason.
Yeah, I mean, he was probably training still. Did they do offseason workouts? Not during February, idiot.
Maybe he'll be back on Selection Sunday again. He is the greatest quarterback of all time.
I know that there's now debates going around. Joe Montana was 4-0 in the Super Bowl.
Tom Brady was 7-3. I don't think anyone will ever win seven Super Bowls again.
Maybe Patrick Mahomes. We've said this.
Patrick Mahomes would be the best challenger, but then when you think about all of it, Patrick Mahomes would have to play until he's in his 40s. Tom Brady won three Super Bowls after the age of 38.
He also would have to have his team's going to turn over like two or three times. It might have been four.
It's just the longevity part. It feels like it's going to be almost impossible to duplicate.
It's crazy to think about that Patrick Mahomes, where he's at in his career right now, is about maybe a sixth of the way, maybe a little bit further than that, about a fifth of the way through what Tom Brady's entire career was. Tom Brady had three separate Hall of Fame careers in his 20s and his 30s and in his 40s.
He's the best football player of all time. Well, wait, now I need to have the internal debate.
Is Tom Brady the best quarterback of all time, or is he the best football player that played quarterback of all time? I say both, actually. He did have three separate Hall of Fame careers, which is crazy.
So if you look at it from 2000 to 2006, obviously not the total yardage, but he basically had Troy Aikman's career with three Super Bowl titles, two Super Bowl MVPs. Troy had one.
From 2007 to 2013, he had Dan Marino's career. Tom Brady went had uh two or Tom Brady went to two Super Bowls Dan Marino went to one Tom Brady had two MVPs Dan Marino had one Tom Brady had two passing uh touchdown leader years Dan Marino had three and then his last like years 2014 to the end he had Joe Montana's career we had four Super Bowl titles Super Bowl MVPs, five Super Bowl appearances.
Joe Montana only had four. It's crazy.
It's insane. Now for the second half of his 40s, he's going to have Greg Olson's career.
Yes, exactly. Which I don't, people were getting mad for Greg Olson.
Greg Olson came on this show. He said it a million times.
He knew what was going to happen when he signed up for it. I also think that there's a decent chance that Greg Olson fins Tom Brady off somehow because he's that good, and he's a proven commodity now.
And you can think, yeah, it's Tom Brady, and he'll probably approach it with the same dedication he approached football with, and he'll probably be outstanding at it and be one of the best broadcasters. But I think that there's a chance that they work something out behind the scenes because they like Greg Olson and they don't have to pay Greg Olson.

Tom Brady on the B team money.

No,

no,

no,

that's not going to happen.

No,

no,

they would move.

They would move Tom.

They would trade Tom Brady like how they traded Al Michaels back in the

day.

Tom Brady goes to CBS,

takes Romo spot.

Romo comes to Fox.

He's on the B team.

That's my dream trade.

Who says no?

Okay.

I also,

I wouldn't be shocked if Tom Brady is somehow involved in the Super Bowl broadcast broadcast this year it feels like what you're already paying him this much money like whether it be pre-game or maybe he's in in the booth for a little bit like i why wouldn't you do that if you're if you're fox why wouldn't you use the guy who you're paying millions and millions of dollars with who just retired fox basically gets an exclusive if they want yeah i don't how that works with his contract, if they start paying him now or if it's a thing where his contract ends with the NFL, with the Bucs, and then he becomes a broadcaster. I think he wants the money now because of the FTX.
I think he'd probably sign up for doing something for the Super Bowl. It would feel like a Super Bowl with Tom Brady around.
Yeah. He played in 18% of the Super Bowls that have ever been played.
I think he's pretty insane. Didn't he play in like half the Super Bowls of his career? Yeah.
If you take out injury, what are you going to say, Billy? I have some more Tom Brady crazy stats. I was just going to say, are we sure Tom Brady's going to be a good broadcaster? No.
I mean, we don't know. Yes.
Because he's a millionaire who's been dating supermodels for the past 20 years, and he also knows the game. He's married to his wife.
Not anymore. Knows the game to a way that he probably can't even convey to other people.
I just want to stop you real quick. Do you think that dating supermodels makes you bad at being a broadcaster? Well, no, just being relatable to everyone in America watching.
Do you think Stephen A. Smith is relatable to anybody? Tony Kornheiser wasn't great on Monday Night Football.
He's been dating supermodels for his whole life. Kornheiser fucks.
He might get on the broadcast and people be like, he just said a couple things. He's got a dick like a baby's arm holding an apple.
I got a... What? Yeah, what? Tony Kornheiser? What are you talking about? Slay King.
People hate Tom Brady because he's successful already. What if he gets on there and he's not like this kind of an asshole? You're not totally wrong, Billy, because he's unproven.
I think it's more Tom Brady knows more football than probably anyone out there. It's just his personality.
Like, is he going to show his personality? Is he going to be gregarious, a guy that you want to tune in and listen to him call a game that's the real what if because do we know tom brady's personality yeah what if what is it electric winner winner yes winner yeah he's a winner charismatic supermodel look all right i'm i are you are you counting kevin bonner maybe writing tweets during the game no i mean everything i've seen I've seen from Tom, and I've seen it all, he's great. What happens if someone tries to bust his balls on the broadcast and he just responds angrily and doesn't take jokes? I think he's one of those.
He's hyper, hyper, hyper competitive. We've seen him.
So when he's in his quarterback mode, he's hyper competitive because he wants to win. Why are we acting like we— He's not competing, so he's going to be like a normal dude.
Why are we acting like we haven't seen him doing the match and like just mic'd up, busting balls of people? I think he's going to be a natural fit. He's on entourage, really.
I'm just saying Fox is in a good spot right now and Greg Olson's doing a good job. So I don't know if they're going to have to move him off.
I think that they're definitely giving Fox something to think about. Now, Greg Olson is definitely, I don't know if Greg's – If Greg's Olson – If Olson's asked to step back to the B team, he'll do it, and he'll be great at that.
I'm just saying Fox is in a good spot right now. I don't think – I don't think that it's a tough, like, position for – I don't think they're – I think it's going to be Tom Brady because they're paying him so much money.
You can't pay him that much money and then be like, he's not – Greg Olson's keeping the job. That's why there's the possibility of the trade.
people on Twitter might be like, we want Greg Olson. Fox people do not care.
That's why there's a possibility that trade, like Al Michaels was traded for the rights to Oswaldo the bunny to go to the ABC properties. No, Tony Romo might just be cut.
He might not be traded. They might just cut him.
Would you take on Tony Romo's cap right now? That's a big cap hit. What if you take on Tony Romo's – what if they trade Tony Romo for Tom Brady straight up and then they just cut Tony Romo? Yeah.
Get him off the books. Yeah, his expiring contract, maybe move him for an asset.
Yeah. All right, so Tom Brady crazy stats.
There are a bunch. It is mind-blowing.
Hopefully we don't have to do this every year. If he comes back this year, it's going to get annoying.
Wouldn't you agree, Hank? No. He would become the Brett Favre.
How many times did Favre do it? Like three or four? Forever. Yeah, it was every year.
It was every year, and then he was like, oh, man, I don't have any money. Yeah, so he's like, I'm back.
Spent all my money on litigation Percocet. Yeah, I don't have any money.
Let me hit up the governor of Mississippi. I love it.
All the highlights come back. Everyone's gassing up Tom.
I got no problem. So you're going to like this.
We should just do this annually anyway. You're going to like these crazy stats.
So Tom Brady has more Super Bowl wins than any single franchise. He has seven.
The Steelers and Patriots both have six. He is fifth all-time on playoff games one.
So that's versus franchise as well. So the Patriots have 37.
Cowboys, Niners, Steelers, Packers all have 36. Tom Brady has 35, which is pretty fucking insane.
That's playoff wins all-time. He has more playoff games than...
Oh, because, okay. Yeah.
The Bucs. Yeah, yeah.
He has more playoff games than... Oh, because...
Okay.

Yeah.

The Bucs.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He has more playoff games than 13 teams total.

So he just, like, all these franchises, Tom Brady is better than all these franchises.

He has more playoff wins than the Browns, Jets, and Saints combined as franchises.

You can do that combo with a lot of teams.

Jets have been around for a while.

A while. A while.
That's crazy. And the Saints won a Super Bowl.
Here's a crazy one. If the Lions, for the next seven years, didn't get the one seed, but won the Super Bowl.
So seven years in a row they won the Super Bowl, they would have the exact same amount of playoff wins and Super Bowls as Tom Brady. So they have to win seven straight to equal Tom Brady's career.
Yeah, I mean, he's the best of all time. I don't think that there's any – you can't argue it.
The people that were making the Joe Montana argument based on Super Bowl, I think even they have to give up at this point. Tom Brady is the best football player.
He's without question the best leader of football teams. He doesn't have any...
I think what hurts him is when you think of other quarterbacks, you can point at exact throws and be like, look how otherworldly this guy was. But with Tom Brady, he was just incredible for a long time.
Hank, why are you struggling? What about the entire 2008 season? Yeah, I mean, he threw... He had nice passes to Randy Moss.
But I'm saying he doesn't have that many signature moments where he does something incredible that nobody else can do with their arm. That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, I mean, that's fair. It's the argument of who has better arm talent.
Obviously, Tom Brady doesn't win that contest. I'm saying that he's the greatest football player of all time.
I'm not trying to denigrate his career. I'm just saying he was that good with his

mind and knew the game inside and

out that he didn't have to have like

Mahomes type wacky plays, throwing

the ball left-handed, underhand, behind his back,

blindfolded. He was just an outstanding

quarterback for a long, long period of time.

And there's actually,

you could also make the case he's like the

walking epitome of the butterfly effect too.

When it comes to his career, he did it all on his own. He earned it all on his own once he started playing, obviously.
And he worked his ass off. And he's obviously to be committed for all that.
But for him to even get to the place where he ended up is kind of crazy. So he got passed up 198 times in the draft, right? Anybody could have.
The Patriots passed on him five times in the draft. So he could have ended up in any other city playing he only got in because Mo Lewis knocked out Drew Bledsoe in a game that had been postponed because of 9-11 because the government funded Osama bin Laden and and his fight against the russians who invaded afghanistan because of the cold war which existed because hitler invaded stalingrad in the winter time which happened because of world war one which happened because gavrilo princip got assassinated or assassinated Archduke Franz Ferdinand the assassination of the Archduke immediately led to Tom Brady's career in the NFL I'm joking about that but obviously there's a lot of stuff like the tuck rule crazy stuff that happened in his career that launched him off he is the walking embodiment of the butterfly effect and taking that and running with it and without a doubt forging the best NFL career of all time.
The last crazy Tom Brady stat I have, this is from Tucker Boynton, who I think used to work here. Great stats guy.
Yeah, he's a great stats guy. He dug deep into this one and it's mind-blowing.
Tom Brady retired never having taken a snap when his team was mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. So including the postseason, 15,906 snaps, each with the possibility of winning the Super Bowl.
That's insane. I think that's why people hate me because I'm a Patriots fan.
People hate Patriots fans. They hate you because you're a detestable person and you have a terrible attitude and you're a troll.
Regardless. Yeah.
The reason people hate Patriots fans is because they're cocky. But it truly felt for 20 years, my entire life growing up from when I was nine till I was, whenever he retired, 27, or whenever he left the Patriots, you knew they were going to be in the divisional round and you were just wondering if they were going to be in the Super Bowl or not.
And that's like, you know, it sounds cocky, but it's like that happened every single year. And like you just said, he was never mathematically eliminated.
It was like clockwork. Your tweet yesterday pissed me off, though, when you were like, thank you to Tom Brady for turning an entire region of America into winners.
He did. I mean, his career is insane.
He instilled winning into the entire New England region. That just makes me so mad to hear that.
But it's true. I know it's true, but it also pisses me off.
Obviously, I miss it, and we talk about how the season has been tough and stuff, but it's like it's not – those memories last forever. I'll always appreciate Tom.
I'll always love Tom, no matter how much you guys try and gaslight and troll me. We didn't gaslight or troll you.
We just spent the last 10 minutes talking about how he's the best football player. No, I know, but you're trying to act like we don't have.
You're trying to get in the way of our relationship. Oh, no, you got in the way of Tom Brady's relationship with you by stabbing him in the back.
I've noticed that we've spent the last 10 minutes talking about how great of a quarterback Tom Brady was, and Hank has spent zero time giving any facts about how great Tom Brady was, how much he loved him. He's just been mad at us.
Yeah. And he also bet on the Cowboys.
He bet on the Cowboys against the Bucs. I just want a heartfelt thank you.
Your heartfelt thank you was Tom Brady made me an alpha male. Tom Brady retires with Henry Lockwood being 1-0 against him in his last game.
That's also a fact. I did bet on the Cowboys.
Yeah, you did. I'm going to check.
Yeah, you did. I know you did.
I don't think I did. I know you did.
I don't think I did. What are you going to say, Billy? To Hank's point, exactly a year ago today, I published a blog, Craziest Tom Brady Statistics.
New England's population from when he started his first game to retire today has increased by 3 million and has a like has a significant population boom compared to the rest of the country so is that true yeah huh new england's population it was something that someone pulled up from his first start is that you know what that's actually called max what's that title town we're coming they're next up he may have The population the population boom philly's next up uh yeah i mean it's it's great there's not it's crazy he's he is the the best quarterback of all time it will be very hard for anyone to top that um which what's also kyle trask is now the starter for the box as of right now i do agree with steven shay that they should let kyle trask hand select his next offensive quarterback. That's going to be important to get Kyle Trask into a system that he loves.
Now, are you ready for this murderous row of quarterbacks in the NFC South? That division's next up. Forget about the AFC West.
The division of quarterbacks is the NFC South. You have Kyle Trask, Desmond Ritter, Sam Darnold-ish, yeah.
And maybe Jameis. And maybe Jameis or Andy Dalton.
If they're lucky. It will be interesting, like the ripple effect of this year, because everyone thought Raiders, they thought Niners, they thought Dolphins.
Now where does Aaron Rodgers go? I saw Devontae Adams tweeting about him coming to the Raiders.

There is a piece off the table.

And there were some people who were thinking like,

oh, Tom Brady's retiring because those three teams I just mentioned don't want him.

I don't know.

I feel like the Niners, I mean, Jimmy Garoppolo,

Kyle Shanahan said Jimmy Garoppolo is not coming back.

They're into like the abyss of Trey Lance and a torn UCL of Brock Purdy.

Maybe Jimmy's not coming back because Kyle knows that Tom Brady's going to be there

I'm not sure. not coming back.
They're into the abyss of Trey Lance and a torn UCL of Brock Purdy. Maybe Jimmy's not coming back because Kyle knows that Tom Brady's going to be there and he doesn't like having Jimmy Garoppolo around.
So what do you think? So you said 25% chance? Yeah. So he's just going to retire and un-retire? I think until there's five games played in the season, he might come back.
There's a 25% chance. Okay.
He'll probably, I mean, he will stay in shape.

It would be funny if Tom Brady got super fat.

How fucking awesome would that be?

If he gave up the entire TB12 lifestyle,

start housing burgers and ice cream, pizza.

I hope he does that and doesn't go more into the plastic surgery.

Oh, Hank, he's going to have a very weird retirement.

He's going to be plastic surgery, dating random chicks all the time the tv 12 like he's gonna do some weird shit yeah you do the way that hank said that you could tell that hank knows yeah no you he's gonna he's he's gonna be unrecognizable in 10 years there's nobody that's ever had just a touch of plastic surgery because you get it and then you're like i gotta get in get some more to even out this side. Just got to have a little plastic surgery as a treat.
Billy. I think he's going to end up playing pickleball.
Okay. I could just see him doing that.
Yeah, retired people love that sport. In that new pickleball league.
Yeah. Because isn't he invested in it? Billy's calling a shot.
All right, there we go, Billy. Just feel it.
What if he decides to host Jeopardy just to piss off Aaron Rodgers and be like, I'm better than you at this? That would be very funny. If you're a Jets fan, I know you're probably happy today, right? Because Tom Brady, he's done tormenting you.
He'll never be around to hurt you again. But, Billy, as a Jets fan, would you have wanted Tom Brady to play on the Jets? Yeah.
Yeah, why wouldn't you? Because honestly honestly growing up watching him so much as a quarterback at one time i used to study him and i'd get so mad when he'd win but it was just awe-inspiring to see the meticulous devotion to his craft his like mechanics like if you weren't if you were playing quarterback and not watching tom brady and how prepared, how he played, how he made checks of the line, how he held himself, then you weren't like. He also has three times the amount of wins, playoff wins is the Jets franchise.
Right. I think that 30 and seven record against the Jets and a 90 and 22 record against the AFC East.
Oh God. If you're a Jets fan, you probably fall into one of two camps.
One, a logical Jets fan that will say Tom Brady, even if he's 45 years old, is the best quarterback that we've had. Shit.
Probably ever. Yeah.
Probably ever. And then there's the illogical Jets fans who I love, who would be like, fuck that guy.
I hate him. He's made my life hell for the last 20 years.
Get him out of my face. Yeah.
I mean, his whole career is insane. That's why I was saying Mahomes is awesome, but what it will take for anyone to get seven Super Bowls is just insane.
Yeah. The dedication, the longevity, the teams turning over, that's the part.
And I'm not saying Mahomes can't do it, but if Mahomes were to do it, that whole team has to turn over like three times. He's going to have guys like Travis Kelsey who would be retired for 10 years by the time that Mahomes is chasing it.
And the trick with Tom Brady, one of the reasons he was able to do it was because Gisele was making more money than he was. He was able to, at times.
Oh, yeah. He was, for a couple points, he was the highest paid quarterback in the NFL.
But there were a lot of years where they restructured and he put off payments because he could afford to do that. Patrick Mahomes, I don't know if the TikTok money coming in is good enough from Jackson to support him and his family.
But that's going to be tough to manage when you're making, like, $500 million over the course of your contract. See what Joe Burrow's due for a big contract.
We'll see what he does. Does he owe us any money? Does he owe us 10%? I think he does.
I think he should probably just wet the beak a little bit. Our shopping spree? Yeah.
We still need that. All right, other things.
So we're getting ready for the Super Bowl. We're going to be in Arizona all week.
Sunday's show will be taped from Arizona. The only other thing I had, because we did all of our Super Bowl storylines on Wednesday's

show, we did miss.

Everyone corrected us.

We knew we were going to fuck it up.

Dick Vermeule.

Dick Vermeule is the quintessential.

Took a long time off, came back and won a Super Bowl with the Rams.

Bill Parcells was the other one.

Parcells was pretty good.

I think we mentioned him.

Bruce Arians.

You could also say he stepped away, came back, won a Super Bowl.

Yeah.

So, I mean, that was one that we knew that we just were fucking it up in the moment.

Yes.

But that's the beauty of the show.

We'll be right back. him um Bruce Arians you could also say he stepped away came back won a Super Bowl yeah so we we I mean that was one that we knew that we just were fucking it up in the moment um but that's that's the beauty of the show we say a lot of dumb shit speaking of dumb shit being said I got a question what the hell's going on with the Cowboys so have you guys seen the quotes that are coming out of the Cowboys recently I've not uh Jerry Jones I think it was like three or four days ago said he wants Mike McCarthy to coach the Cowboys as long as Tom Landry.
Tom Landry coached Cowboys for 28 years. Stephen Jones today said he wants Dak to be their quarterback for the next 10 years.
I don't know what the Cowboys. It feels like if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
It feels like everyone's about to get fired because why else would you talk like this? It sounds like Jerry's doing the thing, sometimes old people do this, where they're layering a statement inside their other statement by saying, I want him to coach for as long as Tom Landry, implying that he wants him to be as successful as Tom Landry, which would mean that he would then be the coach for that long. Also, if you know anything about Jerry Jones and the way that he treated Tom Landry, that's not exactly a great sign for Mike McCarthy.
Well, he's got 26 years until that happens. But Jerry Jones locked him out of the building and took his key card.
The legend of the organization lost a whole bunch of Cowboys fans until he started winning again. Saying, I want him to be my Tom Landry, that's not necessarily a good omen for Big Mike.
Yes yes but it is it is weird stuff coming out of uh cowboys camp i just like those two statements together i was like huh yeah it's a little weird um i've got i got one thing i just want to bring up real quick because i've um i've been thinking about what i'm going to do for the super bowl you've got your massive future right yep uh i don't know what hank's going to do but he's probably going to try to double down on the Cowboys. Probably.
I had an epiphany. I'm not going prop hunting.
I had an epiphany this morning. Yeah.
I need to be a good friend. Okay.
Would a good friend root against his buddy to lose $200,000? No. Well, yeah.
No, you're a good friend. Hank would.
I think it's impossible for me to In good conscience root against you When you have that much money on the line I appreciate that What was your bet? Your initial future? It's 8500 to win 192,000 I'll put 8500 on the Eagles I'll put 8500 on the Eagles I won't hedge So that's the other thing. If you hedge.
That's a mistake. You're a mistake.
Big Cat, if you decide to hedge, I'm going to then put $17,000 on the Chiefs. Okay, that's fair.
No, I'm not going to hedge. Okay, so I'm going to ride.
I'm going to put $8,500. Not your stakes, but.
I like my team. I like the team.
My team is on the floor. As far as I'm concerned on this podcast, we have to have each other's back.
Yes. Football is family.
You and I have to have a team. Just a little bit.
No, everyone. Listen, I'll be the crunchy granola mom of the family.
I've got enough nipples for everybody. Come in.
Have a suck if you want to. We'll all feast together.
We can ride. It's just a big.
It'll be a fucking. The energy will be top notch.
And Hank will just be sitting there rooting for the Gatorade bath and rooting against us. But the second you hedge.
No, I'm not going to hedge. I'm not going to hedge.
I'm not going to hedge. I might live hedge, and I'll be sitting next to you, so I'll tell you if that happens.
But I'm not going to hedge. If the Eagles go up big in the first quarter, then I might be like, all right, now it's worth a little bit, but no pregame hedge.
There we go. Friend up.
None. Thank you, PFT.
Hank? Hashtag good friends. Would you like to wear maybe a Jalen Hurst jersey on the stream? Definitely not going to do that, but I'm also not going to bet on the Chiefs.
Oh, thank you. I'm just going to find a – I'm going to go prop on you and go big.
We all go down together. We all go down together.
Here's what's going to happen. Hank's not going to bet on the Chiefs, but he's going to have a look of contentment on his face when the Chiefs start scoring touchdowns.
Yeah, he's going to be like, I'm not betting on the Chiefs. I'm just going to go prop hunting.
I have Patrick Mahomes over 400 yards, Patrick Mahomes over three and a half touchdowns, Travis Kelsey two touchdowns. It's going to be just Eagles team total under 10, alternate team total under.
He's just going to do that. Yeah, I'm just going to.
You know what? I'm not going to bet on the Chiefs, but I'm going to bet on the Empire State Building to be lit up in red and white after midnight tonight. No, again, I love you guys.
You guys always are trying to be divisive and turn everyone against me. I love you too.
I hope you win your future, Big Cat. Thank you.
That's all I'm going to say about the Eagles. Okay.
I appreciate it. All right.
So before we do our interviews, we had two great interviews, Josh Duhamel and Corey Kispert. Hottest guy that's ever been on the couch.
Yeah, Corey Kispert. Corey's pretty good looking.
Agreed. Were you here for that? He is hot.
I wasn't here for that. He's a very good looking man.
Yeah. He's very good looking.
And we gave him some advice during the interview. And looking at his recent stat line, it looks like he's actually been following.
He's been following the advice. We know ball.
Yeah. Yeah.
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limitations, and exclusions. How many rounds

of golf are you going to be golfing in Arizona?

During Super Bowl week when we're working, zero.

What about after? I'm taking

the week off after Super Bowl week. A little

PTO if that's allowed, if you guys approve

it. No, it is, yeah.
And I'm probably going to

play like... Pending.

What's 72 plus 18? 90? 90 rounds. 90 holes was good mental math yeah so any days that you're doing 36 uh we're planning we're still going through the plans with the boys i got you know my i have a friend that lives out there a couple of my other friends are coming out it's a little little boys golf trip probably do 36 on tuesday oh okay when we tape the show for wednesday we will have so after the super bowl week we have obviously monday's show will be live from arizona after the super bowl we'll have a show on wednesday and then we have dungeon and dragons coming on that friday well if you know that's obviously if you guys approve the pto if you say no i have to work tuesday i obviously will i like having you on this show i've uh i've decided to take your your pto request under consideration and so we're gonna have the boys in h HR take a look at it and just make sure you've dotted all your I's, crossed your T's.
It just feels like 36 holes is a lot of holes. Are you in shape? Super Bowl abs are here, right? Yeah, kind of.
Let's see them. No, don't defile me.
Oh, okay. Objectify me.
Super Bowl's 10 days away. That's true.
Crash diet. 10 days to get the abs going listen i told briscoe i was gonna get abs unfortunately they have not shown up look listen big cat you're like i you know you're always you're spending all your free time with your kids i don't trip you for that just because i don't have kids i like to spend my free time playing golf i don't know what i don't know what's like what's wrong with that well i mean yeah you're right free time like two kids is a lot, is it not? Yeah.
So Tuesday, you're going to play 36 holes. If you guys approve.
I approve. I have not yet approved yet.
We got to both turn the key. Yeah.
Actually, I'll let you know after the Super Bowl. Yeah, because if the Chiefs win, you're working on Tuesday.
That's a fact. That's a fact.

Tuesday, you're working.

If the Chiefs win, you're flying back to New York just for Tuesday's show.

If the Eagles win, you can get a month off.

If the Chiefs win, how about what if Hank just did the podcast himself?

Hank Tuesday?

I don't think that's good for anyone.

Hank, wait, Billy's about to say Hank and me.

Yeah, I'm down.

Yeah. I would like to hear Hank do a two hour solo podcast Hank's corner Yeah Okay so it's set We'll find out We will be in Arizona though on Sunday And it's going to be an awesome week It's going to be great We have some pretty big interviews lined up.
It's a pretty big guest. We also have an awesome interview coming Monday that we've already taped.
A little teaser. Live.
If people like the bowling stream, we're doing live mini golf on Wednesday. Yeah.
That sounds like fun. Jake, how are you feeling after the bowling stream? So far, so we'll get to my fire fest.
Okay. All right.
Max, you okay? I was watching back. Oh, sorry.
I feel great. Also, shout out to everyone who watched.
The numbers were awesome. Insane.
Like almost half a million people. Insane.
I was watching back and skimming through, and Jake, in the very beginning, when his ball wasn't spitting back to him, they came over and opened up the thing, and Jake saw the inside, and he was genuinely like, this is the coolest thing I've ever seen. He's like, wow, guys, did you see this? It fun we're definitely gonna next year's punishment we realized and this is a testament to the awls like a lot of people were just like hey i had it on in the background it was cool to hang out with you guys all day so we will we'll make sure that whatever the punishment is next year is something similar that people can just hang out with us all day yeah it was it was a lot of fun.
And if you missed it, PMTV, YouTube, we're going to put a full recap out, I think, later today because we need a couple extra time to edit. There's a lot of footage.
A couple holes in there. Golf holes.
No. I'm locked in.
Super Bowl week, Super Bowl week. But the second that game's over.
What if I want to play golf Super Bowl week with you? I would be like, we have no time. Okay, but what if I said, let's...
Maybe the weekend. You know what? This fucking job, screw it.
Let's play some golf, Hank. I would help you set that up.
Okay. All right.
Maybe we'll play some golf. All my clubs out there.
I'm going to be busy working, so I'm not going to be able to do it, Hank. But best of luck to you.
Mini-golf Wednesday. Yeah, mini-golf Wednesday.
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Okay, here he is, Josh Dumo. Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest.
It is Josh Dumo. He's got a new movie out.
It's called Shotgun Wedding. It's on Prime Video.

Go check it out now.

Thank you for joining us.

In studio, we have a couple issues we've got to get to.

So we're going to get to the Vikings thing.

Shotgun Wedding.

Let's talk about it.

I took A-Rod's side in the breakup with J-Lo.

So I don't know where you want to go from here,

but I am a former intern at the Corp a-rod's company um i'm a ride or die a-rod guy so this might not work out me and you well listen i was there when it was going south oh no we were shooting this when it was my heart i mean i don't know it well enough um I don't know it well enough. I didn't ask her too much about it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But listen, yeah, he's an amazing baseball player.
I don't know what he's like. Okay, that's good.
That's respect. I don't know what he's like in the sack.
Yeah, yeah, that's respect. I don't know if that's what this is about.
I don't know. We don't know.
You know, people break up for all different types of reasons. But as long as you respect them, we can move forward, me and you.
I can respect. Of course I can.
Okay. Maybe he was too good in the sack.
Yeah. Maybe yeah probably yeah yeah he's just he's i mean he's a beast carried a big bat yeah look at him he's just i mean he's built like a god i can handle that libido yeah some yeah some wild bucks are just meant to roam free exactly exactly so wait so did you uh this movie shotgun wedding go on Prime Video.
Did you, like, getting into, is it hard to play a fake relationship with someone like J-Lo, who's super famous, like, star, everyone knows J-Lo, and getting into that, like, we need to make it seem like we're intimately know each other. Well, that was the main thing for me.
When we first, I don't know, you may or may not know the circumstances surrounding me getting this job um i'm not even sure i'm supposed to talk about it but wait which job uh this one that like shock and wedding or acting in general okay what are the circumstances we'll cut it don't worry we'll cut it it's the whole army hammer oh yeah that's wild credit to josh jubel he doesn't eat people. Was that weird for you? Like when Armie Hammer...
Oh, God. I knew it.
I shouldn't have even brought it up. When the report came out and they're like, well, we can't have a cannibal on set.
Were you like, you know what? I feel like I'm the non-cannibal person of Armie Hammer. You're the best out there.
I was pissed off they didn't come to me first. Your agent should market you as being like josh d'mell has never eaten a person i've never even thought about i'm definitely more age appropriate yes yes that's what you know what though i like you josh because that you did the thing that i love whenever guests sit down they're like i don't know if i should talk about they just went and said it yeah like yes i mean yeah it happened we can't you know it happened it happened who knows what the real story is behind it all? Yeah.
You know, but so you get to answer your question. When I was, when I met with them, they, they, they said they liked me for this role.
They want to get on a zoom with the director with JLo. And will you, are you, I read the script, liked the script.
And so I sat with her over zoom and I said exactly what you just said is that if we don't if the audience doesn't buy us as a couple it'll never work right so you need to trust me and i need to trust you and let's just focus on what are like let's just be like start there and then all the craziness can ensue from that yeah how do you do that with somebody that you're you're playing a character who's madly in love with your your co-lead do you get to know each other before you start shooting do you hang out together do you experience things together to start developing that chemistry or is it just like we're gonna put you in a room well go for it yeah i mean it's it's not always so easy some girls are much easier to get to than others and she's real down to earth she really is jenny from the block in a lot of ways she's still that big superstar but you know when you get down to it she's very accessible she's easy to communicate with it was never it never felt like i was trying to get through all that other stuff it was very easy on the set and that's what um that's why i love the girl i love the girl for that she's you know she's she is who she is but she's also still able to be a normal person. Yeah.
So you've had a long career. You've been doing it for a long time.
Is there a moment where you look back and say, wow. Because actors, it's not.
There's some guys who will be a flash in the pan or you'll see them and then you never hear from them again. What is it about you that has that longevity?

I don't know, man.

I feel like I'm still trying to claw my way.

Really?

A lot of ways, yeah.

And I don't think I ever really believed I belonged in the business for so long,

so I had to work a little bit harder.

I remember my first time on All My Children here in New York back in 99, my very first job, I was fucking terrified because I knew that I stepped on, I remember getting on camera on, you know, on the stage and the cameras rolling and all I could think about was, oh my God, everybody back home is watching this. I'm on TV right now.
And everybody knows that I'm not an actor. I'm just fooling everyone.
They're going to think I i'm a fraud and i felt like that for years and i think that i just had to work my way through it so i had to just bust my ass i guess i don't know yeah because everyone thinks of acting as you know like the glitz and the glamour but you know you guys work very hard into to have that longevity to be in all these shows movies everything yeah and i really do like the process

i'm not in it for the fame i mean it's nice but it's truly for me it's the process of making it that i that i i think that i'm able to kind of exercise a lot of demons because in this business it's easy to to answer your question a lot of pitfalls and traps that you can fall into which I've been very close to falling into many times uh that can derail your career quickly cannibalism yeah cannibalism is one of them no no good on you for skipping that one it's not it's it's not looked uh lightly on and yeah no frowned upon is there is there any particular role or type of role that you want to get into that you want to you want to try your hand at in the future maybe uh some other demon you want to exercise or some type of character that you haven't gotten to play yet um i never really know until i read it to be honest i've been able to do a lot of different things uh and the truth is when we're talking about like, this is almost therapeutic for me in some ways. Like for me, when I first started doing it, I was terrified.
I didn't know if I could do it or if I was belonged here, but the more I worked on things and when I had to go to the darkest places and some of these parts that I played, I found it to be like cathartic in a weird way. Cause you gotta go to these places you would never otherwise look at you know the shadows of your personality rather than just like the you know the cute little happy parts of it yeah yeah and that i think is what i uh you know in a lot of ways it it it's a way to sort of experience things that i never would have otherwise done yeah i'm hearing the joker i'm hearing you joke would be great i mean yeah it's probably not gonna happen but yeah how far into the depths and shadows did you have to go for win a date with tad hamilton not very deep but he was dealing that character was dealing with some stuff you should have gotten kate bosworth not topher grace really yeah he was an asshole agree maybe not in the long run i think she made the right choice for no i don't know you don't ever want to trust a movie star man i don't know um all right so we got to talk about the vikings okay um yes sir do you want to apologize to us because we were right about the vikings all year long and vikings fans were always coming at us being like oh 13-4, like, we're really good.
I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. We actually were going to get a tattoo of Kirk Cousins on our asses if the Vikings won a Super Bowl.
Really? Because we were that convinced that the Vikings were not Super Bowl caliber team. Yeah, I mean, I think that you're probably right, especially now in retrospect, because they were, I'll put it this way, they made big strides.
We won games we typically lose this year. Yep.
They're usually a team that blows the lead rather than comes back in the end and wins it. That's just kind of their MO.
So I think Kevin O'Connell did a great job sort of getting these guys to believe. The problem is that, and I would even say Kirk Cousins had a good year.
Yeah, he did. I have been down on him his whole, like I've talked a lot of shit about Kirk Cousins over the years.
Yep. But I got to say the guy played pretty well.
Yeah. The problem is he's like Dak.
He's got a cap and he's never going to take you all the way.

He's going to do something stupid in the end.

He's going to check down when you're on fourth and nine or whatever they were.

You're doing our episode from three months ago.

Yeah, this is great.

It's like you've got to know the situation.

And he always seems to make those little mistakes,

even though he had a great year.

Yeah, no, the defense failed you.

He's a stat stuffer.

And then there's the defense. And the Vikings defense is usually solid, really good.
But for whatever reason this year, they just were not. And we have the players.
They got rid of the DC, so we'll see who they bring in. I will say something nice about Kirk Cousins, and I have not admitted this on this show before.
I think that Kirk Cousins can win a Super Bowl. You do? As a backup.
He needs to have... Oh, as a backup? Back you up Patrick Mahomes.
I was going to say, he needs to have Josh Allen make his way over to Minnesota. I think that he could if he had a great defense.
If he had a great defense, he could win the most boring Super Bowl of all time. He's not going to go out there and beat somebody in a shootout on his own.
That's not how I see Kirk Cousins operating in the playoffs because he doesn't really take chances. You said it.
He'll check down. He's a very good quarterback, very nice guy.
But I think if everything was perfect around him, including an all-world defense, then he could win a Super Bowl. Yeah, they have the weapons on offense for sure.
Yeah, and I think that if we get that same defense we usually have, there's a – I mean, listen, anybody can win this thing with the right ingredients. It just helps when you've got a quarterback that makes big plays in big situations.
And it also helps when – the biggest problem is that he gets a lot of money. Kirk Cousins gets paid a lot of money.

I wish he was as good as his agent, man.

Yeah.

I mean, I think he's first team all money earner in NFL history.

He plays the game the perfect way to get paid a shitload of money.

But then on the other hand, he gets all that money.

And now you can't really go out and spend big on multiple defensive players.

No.

And, yeah, I think that he, I don't know. just feel like he's what was i gonna say um you're a quarterback right i was how do you how do you analyze kirk cousins game as a quarterback well listen i'm nowhere near as good as he was obviously you know we don't know that we don't know okay pop quiz it's fourth and eight and you have justin jefferson running downfield you also have a tight end that's at the line of scrimmage who's about to get tackled for a two-yard gain it's the make or break play on your season who do you pass the ball to well you're gonna throw it to justin jefferson all day you're pretty clear better than him that's my problem my problem problem is that he's got the skill.
He's got the talent. He makes the throws.
He can make all the throws. It's just things like that.
It's like, dude, and who am I? He did have a guy in his face. He needed to get rid of it, but you still got to throw it, at least to where the guy's got a chance to catch it.
You would have made that throw. I'm pretty confident you would have made that throw.
I don't know, man. You would have sidestepped, sidearm, sling it, touchdown.
Who do you think is the best quarterback in the league right now? It's Patrick Mahomes. Yeah? Yeah.
I don't even think it's a debate. Or Joe Burrow.
I don't think – Joe Burrow's up there now. I mean, Patrick Mahomes.
Joe owns Patrick Mahomes. He does.
But Patrick Mahomes is special. Well, he's special, but, he's special, but I mean, there's that, there's that, what would you rather have?

The guy who can make all the crazy plays or the guy who's able to elevate, like a Brady, who can elevate the players around him and win championships? I think Mahomes could do both. I think he can too.
Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, I just. But Burrow's pretty impressive.
No, Burrow's incredible. And maybe it's like one of those things where kind of like a Brady-Manning

where Mahomes won a Super Bowl early enough in his career

that he's not going to have that Manning, that stretch where it's like,

can you win the big one?

But there was a time period where Manning would have the regular season

and then Brady would have the postseason.

So maybe there's something there where it's like Mahomes will put up the numbers

and Burrow might win the titles.

I don't know.

Yeah.

That'd be interesting. It's interesting, and it's hard to find those quarterbacks.
There's nothing flashy about his game, really, but he just seems to make the plays. It is hard to find those quarterbacks.
He just seems like with Mahomes, he runs around a lot, and he makes incredible plays that you don't see anybody else make. With Joe, he just kind of never gets to the point where he has to – he never looks like his hair is on fire no he always looks like unflappable yeah he like every single step every move that he makes yeah it's like he was planning on doing that before the play even started so what type of vikings fan are you are you uh doom and gloom like every year it's going to be the same or you're like no i believe we believe this year i believe i believe i always believe it's our year and this year i think we were inching i thought that zimmer took us he left the team better than where he found it yeah and i think koc is now taking it to another level now we just got to figure out how to figure that defense so were you like this year you were like yeah we're 13 and 4 we're good yeah but we got our asses kicked too many times yeah really trust it i didn't trust him but i knew that if things came together at the right time, we had a chance.
It is funny because I think the Vikings, weirdly, if they had lost maybe one or two more games, they would have been talked about differently, where it's like, oh, you know what? They're building the right thing. They're going in the right direction because I do believe that.
They have a ton of talent. It's just that when you go 13-4, everyone expects, like, you're one of the the best teams in the league and it's like we all kind of knew that they weren't so in a weird way if they had gone 10 and 7 the season would have been looked at differently you know yeah i mean like hey right step in the right direction still got some things to work on no one expected him to win it all right when you get to the 13 14 wins everyone starts putting pressure on you right right it's hard to beat 13 wins with the worst defense in the league.
Yeah, it is. I think they were the lowest, like 32.
Oh, wow. Should Kirk Cousins be the MVP? This might be his best year.
That's a good argument. I just don't know what happened there on that defense.
I think, what was it, their scheme? I don't know. They were just bad.
They made Daniel Jones look incredible. They made Daniel Jones a lot of money.
And the Eagles. Yeah.
And there's a good example of what a good defense can do. Right, exactly.
The good news for the Vikings, you didn't lose in heartbreaking fashion, in truly classic heartbreaking fashion. Like we usually do.
There was no Blair Walsh. No.
Yeah. And, I mean, this fucking team, I can swear here.
Yeah, you can say whatever you want. Shit, fuck, fuck, fuck.
This team, every year, finds a new way to break your heart yeah this year didn't feel like it i think we all kind of like you said knew that unless things really came together perfectly we weren't getting we were not i think the four best teams are in there right now yeah yeah there's eagles bills bengals i know chiefs yeah i mean the the win that you had against the bills that that might Super Bowl this year. Yeah.
That was an awesome game. That was the type of game where if you're not a Vikings fan, you wish that maybe you temporarily could have been a Vikings fan for that one weekend.
Yeah, that was a good one. And then the Colts game.
Remember that comeback game? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
It was an exciting year. Yeah.
33-0. But we should have been down 33-0.
Yeah. That's also true.
Good point. You let Jeff Saturday's offense put up 33 up 30 well no there was some like defense and special team stuff that happened that game too but yeah what a great second half that was yeah do you hate aaron rogers as much as i do we can find common ground there as a packer but i like i mean i know him and he's a good dude but i was not upset to see him i i was hoping they weren't going to make the playoffs just because i didn't think they deserved to be there they he had his worst year i've seen him play yeah but he's so good yeah hell of a quarterback football like being a human being no really yeah you know i mean we've interviewed him yeah yeah it wasn't my really my cup of tea what are you gonna say about me when i leave here oh we're gonna trash you like this guy tookLo's side in the breakup? It's bullshit.
The easiest way to get into Big Cat's heart is to just be like, fuck Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, you could have, yeah.
Fuck Aaron Rodgers. There we go.
He belongs in prison. Does this help? When they lost that game to the Lions at the end of the season, I tweeted or I instant storied whatever it was.
I said, hey, Aaron, now you can R-E-L-A-X. Oh, all right all right yes that's big you know it's now you and i i'm gonna have to see him at pebble beach in a next week or okay to tell him i say you'll play golf with him yeah big cat says hello yeah fuck you no that's exactly what i'd say yeah uh i i heard a little birdie told me a story that this would make our relationship even stronger.

Okay.

Your ex-wife Fergie, you were in Italy filming something, and she would come and bring tins of dip for you?

She would.

That's a guy's guy.

Holy shit, that's a guy's guy.

You know, when you're in a place, where was that, Italy?

I don't know.

You tell me. It's your life.
I do remember remember bringing like a she had this giant duffel bag and there was like 30 cans of that's awesome wow i love i love that that's true love yeah thank you for supporting this terrible habit yes i just heard that story i was like i fucking love josh jamellon that's fucking cool did she bring that from the united states or did she buy it over there? No, no, no. From the US because they didn't sell it there.
Yeah. It's like you're in prison.
She's like, what does he need? It was like a conjugal visit. Yeah.
I did that. I was visiting my friend in Qatar for the World Cup and he asked me at the last minute, hey, can you bring a bunch of Zen for me? And so I packed a whole bunch of Zen in my backpack and then I got there and I got to the apartment they were staying at.

And then they showed me online.

It's like one of the most illegal things that you can do in Qatar is to smuggle Zen. You don't want to do that kind of stuff.

But I didn't know any better.

So I wasn't nervous.

I wasn't sweating it out going through customs.

Yeah.

Yeah.

How did you get your Coke there?

In the Zen packets.

Oh, I see.

The little thing on top.

You look for the fastest camel and then you go up to and you know something wedged up his ass where where are we at with draymond green still hate him oh draymond fate on site we'll we'll defend you so for me we don't know when you were probably it actually was after you were you guys had already we already been divorced yeah the National Anthem, and Draymond Green laughed, and you came at him, which that's a fucking respectable move. Well, I was like, I don't know, man.
I mean, he's a hell of a player, but I don't know. He just feels like...
It was a low-class move by him. Yeah, I don't know.
All right. I mean, listen, it wasn't her best work.
Yeah, that's okay. But I've seen her crush this.
That's why I was like, what are you she's crushed the the national anthem right but i don't know and you know i probably was not a good move for me to go after the golden state warriors i'm never gonna win that yeah i'm never gonna win that but we should they got me good i took a hard l on that one it's it's uh you know with shannon sharp and going after the grizzlies like we should just be like Draymond, if you see any of us in the street, it's Hans on Josh's back. He's pretty big, man.
Oh, yeah. No, we get our ass kicked.
He probably kicked my ass, too. Yeah, no, for sure kick our ass.
I just can't win this one. We go down honorably.
You could take Clay out. You could take him? Yeah, yeah.
Oh, Matt's definitely could take him. He's a Philly scumbag.
It's light work. Yeah, I got him.
I got him for sure. You can take Claire's staff.

I feel like you've got them.

You're a football player.

They're a basketball player.

Yeah.

Yeah, no, Draymond.

Draymond would be done.

Yeah, you got it. Yeah.

I like that move, though, to have her back.

I do have her.

I mean, I love Ferg.

We still have a great relationship.

She's the mother of my kid. You know, I just felt like you don't need to do that.
Right. She's already getting enough.
So, yeah. It was a respectful move.
Thank you. I got an acting question for you.
I've asked this to a bunch of different people that have come in on this show about dying on screen. Have you ever died in a movie? Oh, yeah.
What what's it like uh i had a brutal death in him it was a series on hulu with james franco called uh 11 22 63 and and i got strangled to death by him i believe with this telephone cord and it was just like this is the worst character i've probably ever played and and uh yeah i mean if there's been a few of them i think yeah i would have that was the worst do you just like stop stop breathing yeah keep your eyes open i would want to blink my eyes like it was like a i was like right the camera's right blood coming out See, I'd breathe. I would breathe.

How do you believe that?

I'd breathe. I would breathe.
Do you believe that? I bought it, yeah. Do you believe that? Yeah, that was cool.
That was cool. That was really cool.
Is there like when you wake up in the morning, you look in the mirror, you're like, yep. Got it.
Less and less, my man. No, come on.
You're aging well. Gading fast.
No no you're you have to though when you walk in a room you're like i know that everyone's looking at me and they're like oh that guy's hot i mean i did it yeah when did you realize the first time that you were hot yeah what was the first moment you had a hot moment where you're like wow i guess this is what it's like someone complimented you like yeah i guess i am really hot this is this is good second grade second grade okay yeah that makes sense no but seriously you you know it you walk in a room people look this guy's hot man uh it's it it's it's helped me to a certain point but it is fading fast no i mean we're both getting gray oh i'm very i get i get roasted i got some gray pubes now it's all going south but the gray is distinguished that's the thing is like especially like i feel like a lot of uh instagram culture tiktok culture is like you know like daddies you know you're you're you got the daddy energy oh hey thank you Yeah yeah it's the uh it's the uh i keep my t levels high yeah you get the gray hair it looks good is it has it been a curse to be good looking um how do i answer this without sounding like an asshole no you're hot we've already said like you're not your smoke show listen you're smoke bro listen It's helped me get to get to a certain point. But I also know that that's not going to last.
Yeah, I'll use it for what I... And part of...
I've wanted to stay in this business based on what I can do. And so it helped me get in the door for sure.
But I also know that it's going to go away real quick too go away real quick too and i got to have something else to stand back on so uh it does that answer your question yeah what was the question like is it a blessing and a curse what's the worst was the worst moment of having to answer questions like this yeah yeah yeah about being hot no i i would love to i don't get asked that nearly as much as i you are pretty hot though that hair is thank you yeah it's good it's good listen i i'm trying to go i hate it because oh wow wow now that's unfair that's unfair what is because you're growing a mullet but you're hot so like the mullet will look good like cool aren't they yeah but most mullet wearers are wearing it because it's like they're trying to distract people from what's going on in the face. You know what I mean?

Like, you don't see a lot of dudes that are really good looking with mullets.

And you're just doing it for you're appropriating mullet culture.

I had the best mullet in high school.

My basketball photos, I've got this short sort of spiky hair with a long ass mullet in the back.

Yeah, that was the look.

Old school mullet.

It was like hockey hair.

Before it was ironic mullet.

Oh, yeah. Then it was a thing.
It was was legit are you the most famous person from north dakota i don't know i think you must be right what else who else is north dakota i don't know who gets slept on more south or north north dakota gets slept on you think so god yeah i feel like i always think of north dakota not south yeah well b. The Bison.
That's really what it is. It's all I got.
Yeah. The Bison.
Mount Rushmore, South Dakota, right? That's South Dakota. Yeah.
We got UND hockey, which is really good. Yep.
Carson Wentz. That's no longer a good thing.
No, it is. Carson Wentz is from South Dakota, isn't he? North Dakota.
No, I'm trying to help you here, Josh. Carson Wentz is from South Dakota.
No, he's from North Dakota. I'm trying to help you here josh cars cars was from south dakota he's from north dakota i'm trying to help you here josh give me nine i still believe in carson no you don't no no no josh no we'll give you conversion you don't want it no you don't want it the coach made a big mistake no no no no what you know the coach did a good job by bringing in matt uh i think the coach did the worst thing imaginable by making me root root for him as a commanders fan yeah it was bad you don't want it when you don't want to root for carson wince no it's it it ruined it ruined at least two months of my you have to just telling you flush you're a commanders yeah i'm a commander regrettably you you have to flush 2017 out of your mind yeah it's never coming back i've made this mistake so many times all the way through college yeah the guy he lost some confidence yeah and you think in in your you're like somewhere in there that guy's still there i look look what he did last year in indianapolis they had a yeah that team could have gone deep they lost to the jaguars in week 18 it wasn't his fault it wasn't all his fault it was a lot of you don't you don't jump ship on somebody that quickly, and I think that they did, and I think that if they'd have stuck with him, they would have continued to play well this year.
But what happened this year, though? Did you watch any of the games? He got hurt right away. Yeah, he started a little slow, 1-2.
After like a month and a half. But so did Joe Burrow.
He was 1-3 to start the year. Trust me, you don't want it.
Peyton Manning threw 35 interceptions his rookie year. I'm trying to help you.
You don't want it. I do.
You don't. I'll take him on the Vikings, man.
Oh, no. I would take Kirk Cousins back in a heartbeat.
Would you? You would rather have Kirk Cousins than Carson Wentz? Oh, my God. Yeah.
I'll take Carson. I would get a Kirk Cousins tattoo of his face on my face.
Josh. This is bad, man.
It's a good thing you're so hot. He's a Philly fan right here what do you think oh he's oh you guys are now Carson Wentz is absolutely trash really come on yeah he's bad but you guys are getting out tanked on your own show right yeah no which is hell of a thing to say he's getting I mean this is a hell of a take yeah great take yeah the problem with Carson Wentz is like he he will make you think like there is that little kernel true Carson Wentz still inside of him.
Right. And then he's just sad.
It's very sad watching him play football. Can I tell you what I think happened there? Yeah.
He came off. He started off his career on fire.
Got hurt. Yep.
Was having an MVP type season. Was.
That's a fact. Foles comes in, wins it for him, finishes the job uh the next year i think they draft jalen hurts right no following year i think they stuck with nick or they had nick foals the backup again the next year and i think that he didn't have a great year or something he was sort of like teetering then they draft jalen hurts and i think jalen hurts because he is such like an alpha, probably intimidated him a little bit and knew that there was somebody sort of breathing down his neck.
Didn't play well, which is on Carson. Yeah, I was going to say, if you're the guy, they shouldn't worry you.
That's the one thing about him I wish he had a little bit. He's not as much of an alpha as I'd like to see him be.
Yeah. But is a hell of a quarterback oh man this is this year he gets hurt so then he gets hurt gets in he gets

hurt no that's then he gets traded to the indianapolis they go like they win like what

10 games in a row or something they were playing really good football and then fell apart the last

two games of the season put it all on him get rid of him then they bring in matt uh matt ryan ryan matt ryan which was like that's that's a lateral move at best yeah but the problem with your take is the whole like basis of your take is built on the year that he was with the colts and he wasn't able to beat the jacksonville jaguars the worst team in football to to get to the playoffs. It happens.
But it's not only – listen, it wasn't a great way to end the year. No, it was not.
It wasn't. But you can't put all that on him.
A lot of it, though. I put it on the ownership for getting rid of him so quickly.
Give him another shot. You paid him all that money.
But then he goes to D.C. and then he plays poorly.
Starts one and two, gets hurt. He gets hurt.
Heineke steps in. The the entire team plays better with heineke true back then they take heineke out at the end put wins back in and he works he looks just as bad as ever and then at this point trust me i'm just trying to protect you you don't want you don't want this you don't want carson oh yeah i was about to say that i wouldn't wish wish carson went to my worst enemy but he is exactly what i would wish on my worst Yeah.
I hope all my worst enemies have to watch a full season football with Carson Wentz. I still believe that he's got some good football on him.
No, if you can take one thing away from our time together, just try to quit this part of your life. It's bad.
It's a bad... Again, thank God you're so hot because the Carson Wentz love is not good.
It's good to know that you're flawed just like everybody else. Yeah, it's a major red flag.
Like if this was a date that we're on. If it was like a date, you would never see me again.
When you say Carson Wentz, I'd be like, I got to go to the bathroom. I would have gone out the back.
Like, oh, we're done here. Ladies, ladies, he's a 10, but he still believes in Carson Wentz.
It makes him a zero. Oh, my God.
Well, Josh, this has been awesome, man. go check out the new movie shotgun wedding prime video uh with j-lo and uh anytime you want to come back and talk some ball i would love to this is a lot of fun you guys yeah yeah and rassil is gonna get mad that you came on this show because we always cuck his guests so yeah have you hung out with him i have what's he like he's a great dude yeah so i had him he did a little bit for the opening of uh buddy games 2 where dac shepard's character dies and we have all these if i'd have known you guys i would have asked you to do it too thank you appreciate that but uh so all these you know various news outlets are reporting on the death of this up-and-coming actor played by durfee dac Shepard's character who wasn't available for the second

one. That's why we had to kill him.

But anyway, he did

a little spot for us on that.

Is he as big as he looks

on pictures? He looks pretty

jacked, doesn't he? Yeah, but he's not that big in person.

I saw him early days on

ESPN. We just stayed in touch

since then. He had a great head of hair.

Yeah, he did.

I just always wonder, is he

talks about lifting weights? He can't be that

Thank you. ESPN.
Yeah, yeah. We just stayed in touch since then.
He had a great head of hair. Yeah, he did.
Yeah. I just always wonder, is he like, he talks about with lifting weights, like he can't be that jacked in person.
I haven't seen him in person for a while. Okay.
What was his contractor status in that movie? Because he's got a thing against taxes. I don't know if you withheld those or if it was just all paid to him.
He didn't make any money. Oh, okay.
That's good. That's good.
He probably wrote it off in taxes. I just asked a bunch of favors.
Yeah. Well, next time you need a favor, we'll do it.
So I might be coming to you guys. Yeah, I'm in.
We're in. Also, Wiz Khalifa is from North Dakota.
He is. Oh, I didn't see that one coming.
All right. Well, he's not from there.
He was stationed. His parents were stationed at the Air Force Base in my hometown, Minot.
Oh, wow. He went to Memorial Junior High.

Okay.

So there you go.

How about that?

So that's you and Wins. And then I think he left.

He never went to high school there, I don't think.

And Carson Wentz from South Dakota.

North Dakota.

Bismarck.

I'm helping you out.

We're from Bismarck Century High School.

All right, Josh.

Thanks so much, man.

All right.

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Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. He plays for the Washington Wizards.
He played for Gonzaga. Deep tournament runs.

He is in his second year in the NBA.

He is Corey Kispert in studio.

And also, did you just come from practice? What's going on here?

Yeah, I got the socks tucked into the sweats

and just came from shoot-around. I actually walked from

MSG, so I got a little New York in

my nostrils. Oh, okay.
So you

did shoot-around and then you just walked right over. Now,

how'd you shoot and shoot-around? Shot great. I love playing in Madison Square Garden and that place is what we call a shooter's gym.
What are the top three shooter's gyms in the NBA? Personally, I think it's the Garden. I think it's Philly.
And then as a wizard, I think it's the great Capital One Arena. Great spot.
Great spot to watch Great spot to watch a game. Fantastic.
So you do your – I mean, I'm looking right now. You have – you're shooting 50% against the Knicks this year.
So I don't know if that game was at home or on the road. But, yeah, okay, all right.
I'm going to back you up. Yeah, I'll back you up what you're saying right now.
So you do shoot around. How does an NBA day go? I have a lot of other questions about Gonzaga and everything else, but I am always curious because I think we're idiots where we think like, oh, yeah, you get to just go show up and play basketball and hang out, and then you go to a steak dinner, and then you wake up and you just play basketball again.
It's awesome. So, I mean, the NBA, first of all, normal weeks have seven days, but the NBA has four days of the week.
It's practice day, travel day, game day, and off day. Just four days.
Okay. So which day do you want to- Do them all.
Do them all? Game days are light shoot around what we just did. It's super basic.
How many shots? I bet I get up 100, 150. Kobe would have gotten up 400.
I was going to say Larry Bird, I think, took 1,000. Yeah, you should do more you should do more than that but that's fine clearly not working yeah if you're cool with where you're at in the league that's cool i have actually a dumb question we can get back to i am interested in the day in the lifestyle yeah yeah um but why don't you shoot more in games well he's not practicing enough and shoot that's probably it i think i just need to shoot more and shoot around i guess i mean this in a respectful way i think Maybe you can take it as a fence, but you have a very high percentage.
You shoot, what, like 42% from three? That's right. But you're shooting four times a game? You should shoot more than four times a game.
Yeah, you and my mom have the same advice. That's great.
That's the key. You and Derry Kispert have a great eye for basketball.
I'm like the annoying hockey fan that's in the stands. Shoot it, shoot it, shoot it.
You should shoot more. That's my coaching.
If you want to take it, I don't know, maybe. Well, thank you.
I'm going to take any coaching I can get, so I appreciate it. Shoot more.
Yeah. Thank you.
Yeah, day in the life. Day in the life.
Shoot around where I don't shoot enough is early in the morning. Clearly.
And then head back to the hotel, breakfast, brunch, lunch, nap, and then back to the arena for a game. It's just very regimented.
Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah. What time do you show up before the game for the – like what time do you have to get to the arena? Probably like three hours before the game.
Oh, that sucks. I'd show up right before.
Does that mess with your dinner schedule? Yeah, I mean dinner on game day is like at 10.30, 11 o'clock. Yeah, so you just – why don't you just show up? What I would do is the game's at 7.30.
I'd eat dinner at like 6, and I'd roll in at like 7.15. I mean, you guys- You always have the anthem.
It takes a while. Yeah, well, five minutes ago, you guys were giving me shit about not working hard enough, so I just got to get to the game as early as I can.
You got to start grinding earlier. Yeah.
Just wake up at like 3.30 in the morning. Actually, you should do that.
You should bank a bunch of videos of you shooting in Lifetime Fitness, just wetting everything, and just schedule tweets to go at 3.30 a.m. Be like, back on my grind again.
Using old footage. So we know travel day and off day.
Do you love to practice? I like to practice. Mark that.
He said like, not love. Do you enjoy it? I do enjoy practice.
But you're not in love with practice. Not in love with practice.
I'm in love with practice. Yeah? Well, why are you in love with practice? I just love practicing.
You just love the grind. Anything.
Yeah. Give me any sport, any hobby.
We practice podcasting. That's just called conversation.
I love to practice. Love it.
What about if you didn't have to practice? What if you could just show up on game day and you shoot 80% from three and now you're taking seven threes a game? If that was like your normal game, would you practice even if you didn't need to? If that was my normal – if I could show up to a game and not practice and shoot 80% on seven shots, I would not practice. It doesn't look practice.
I don't think I could do that, but if I could, I would. So is practice, though, in the NBA, is it hard? Like was it harder at Gonzaga than it is in the nba it was 1 000 times harder at gonzaga than it was at the nba yeah yeah and i think anybody who played at a big time college would tell you that as well yeah well oh you're counting gonzaga as a big time yeah i mean i know we haven't you know made a final four run or anything but yeah you know i think you're familiar with our game yeah it's a new a new blue blood yeah yeah how uh how much harder would it have been if you played in real conference I think it would have I think you're familiar with our game.
It's a new blue blood, yeah. How much harder would it have been if you played in real conference? Ooh.
I think it would have. The WCC is also a much improved conference.
It is. And it is making its way into the ranks for sure.
And that's a lot to say about that. How much is that argument like? Because it happens every year.
And I actually want to give Gonzaga credit. You guys have, and Mark Few in the program, you guys have started scheduling some really good non-conference games.
It feels like every December now, Gonzaga's playing. Basically, pick four out of the top ten teams are playing.
But January, February, when you know, all right, we can Pacific or Pepperdine like we're going to just roll in and we're going to beat them. Is there any credence to, like, not being as sharp when it comes to tournament time, knowing that you've just been wasting everyone? Yeah, there is.
And it's one of those things that's kind of just out of our control for more, like, for lack of a better term. Like, we have to play who's in front of us, we're in the conference we're in and we're not the athletic director so we can't change conferences and can't negotiate stuff like that and but yeah it wears on you man like you have to like truly like almost like like practice so so hard during like january and february because you know that you're gonna go into those places and more often than, wax them.
Yeah, and it's always funny, too, the Gonzaga seasons. I love college basketball.
It's like, all right, you just got to hope that, like, basically the game at BYU or the game at St. Mary's, they can pick them off to give them a little bit, a little bit of a scare.
Yeah, it's usually like at home against St. Mary's, on the road at BYU, and then maybe there's like a five-point game at San Francisco.
Yeah, that's it. That's kind of the season.
Yeah, and that's all you get. Is it hard to play in that St.
Mary's gym? I actually really like it. Yeah, Shooter's Gym.
Yeah, Shooter's Gym. That is a Shooter's Gym.
There's nothing behind it. It's just a wall.
It's just a wall. I've always heard that it's way easier to shoot if you have that wall because it gives you that depth perception check.
That's correct. As opposed to having a field house where just a bunch of empty nothing like the alamo dome in uh in san antonio it sucks to watch basketball there yeah but i imagine in a stadium like that it's probably more difficult to play yeah it kind of sucks to play too especially as a shooter like you kind of have to it's you have to get there early and you have to shoot and you have to work hard and then it's kind of a guessing game from there really yeah on the depth depth perception with that huge gap in the back.
Did you ever get invited to Adam Morrison's bunker? I've never gotten that invite. I've only heard stories.
It started here. Yeah, really? It was our fake news.
It was like our third month doing the show. We've been doing the show for seven years now.
We had Kyle Wilcher on, and he mentioned Adam Morrison as a bunker, and then it just blew up.

And then Adam reached out to us.

We've become friends with him now because I felt bad.

He's like, I don't have a bunker.

Everyone thinks I'm a psycho.

He's like, I just have a room that locks and has a shitload of guns

and a lot of provisions and stuff.

It's not a bunker.

That's just a room.

Yeah, right, right.

To be clear, it's not a bunker.

It's not a bunker.

No, no, but we've become friends with him.

So you never got to go to Adam Morrison's house? I've never been in Adam Morrison's house. Damn, we should redo this part and say you have seen his bunker.
Wait, I mean, does he have a problem with you? Why don't you get to the end of that? No, I love Adam. Adam, I think he really likes me.
Apparently not. Yeah, apparently not.
Millie Knot doesn't like me that much. But I think it's part of a room that locks and has provisions and guns and blankets is you don't just invite everybody.
That's true. And it's underground and only five people know about it.
But again, to be clear, not a bunker. It's just a room.
Not a bunker. Does Kyle Wiltshire have a bunker? I don't think Wiltshire has a bunker, no.
Yeah, I think he is a little bit more of an above ground guy. What about Drew Timmy? Does he have a bunker? He seems like a bunker guy.
Drew could be very easily turned into a bunker guy. I have a question.
You have some problem with Drew? I have. You obviously listen.
You know. You listen.
I love Drew Timmy's game. I do think his shoulders are a little too small.
That's whatever. Nothing can do about that, right? Makes his head look pretty big, doesn't it? Yeah.
It's kind of disproportional. This is also flashbacks because I bet on you guys against Baylor, the national championship game, and they were better.
They were better that day. When you're up or when you're down 10, 15 to Baylor and Drew Timmy goes and slams it and he does a little mustache dance, did anyone in the huddle be like, hey, bro, we're fucking down in the national championship.
Chill out. I fought that battle all year long.
Okay. All right.
So, no, but this is the battle I fought was like I'm like – like my leading style on that team was like buttoned up, straight laced. Like when it's the game, we're business.
And Drew is like the exact opposite of that. Like he's doing the mustache thing.
He's got the hair flopping around like talking trash and doing whatever. And like I didn't – I kind of fought him on that for a long time.
But then i realized like he has to do that in order to play well okay and so maybe he was kind of tricking himself into like like flipping the switch yeah and getting going a little bit and i'm okay with him doing it during the like i actually think that's a great answer because most teams you need both styles you need a guy who's a little bit more like braggadocious you need a guy who's maybe a little lead by example. It was just when they were down like 10.
You guys were down 10. I was just like, dude, don't do that.
Yeah, it rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, and I get it. Have you ever seen the TikTok of the sad sorority girl who's dancing and she's crying and she's wiping away? That's when he did the mustache thing down by 15.
That's all I could think about. And he is pretty good.
He is a phenomenal basketball player. Would you play one-on-one with him? I would imagine if he tried to play one-on-one with him, he'd just go in the post and beat you with ability.
He has so many moves in the post. Fakes, pivots, and up and unders and all that stuff.
Yeah, that's what he does. And he likes to think he's a guard, but, I mean, that's where the money's made down there.
It is fun watching him play. And, like, he's one of those guys that he feels like we've lost a little bit of it with people going to the NBA after a year.
And it's fun when a guy stays around like that. Yeah, I mean, you think of like, I mean, he's like the Perry Ellis of like Gonzaga.
Yeah. Guys are just like, wait, he's still there? Yeah, he's still there.
And the crazy thing is, I mean, I don't want to speculate for Drew, but he has another year. Oh.
Oh, yeah, I like that. The availability, he has the eligibility for one more year, so you can see him in a Gonzaga uniform for a fifth year, which would be nuts.
You guys got some like nil money up there oh yeah yeah i'm sure he does i i like my i was so pissed because my last my senior season was the year before the nil stuff started kicking in yeah right and so i got to see everyone kind of setting up their stuff and getting ready to make some deals and and drew's capitalized for sure i would love that i would love if drew timmy stayed around another year after this one just let him stay forever just do the mustache yeah for another year and a half keep keep flicking the mustache yeah more year that's great uh there there was a clip that went viral of your former teammate jalen saying some nasty stuff about you about how he didn't like you when you first joined the team yeah did you like him right off the bat i mean i thought we were cool that kind of took me by surprise a little bit the clip did yeah why why didn't he like you well I mean I mentioned it like my like leadership style on that team was like kind of straight laced and buttoned up and like when it's go time it's go time and then you know when when like practice is over the game's over we can chill but um he's another one of those guys that didn't like really operate like that and he came in and he was like the the basketball star and the football star yeah you know everybody knew who he was um and I was kind of spent that time I guess like feeling it out a little bit and kind of seeing what he was really about um but Jalen was like the most team-oriented selfless um like really amazing point guard as a freshman for us that year and it helped us a ton so he won me over pretty quick how how sweet was that shot against UCLA yeah I mean I don't credited me credited me with the assist but i want to take credit for that oh let's do that let's make sure you get the credit perfect pass the perfect right in the pocket right in the pocket one dribbling up um was that like a 10 foot 15 foot pass yeah probably it was i was out of bounds took it out and probably threw it to the free throw line and you hit him in a perfect spot right over the basket we were running low on time and he had to take you know catching his in stride. I mean, I don't think he would have made it without that great of a pass, but he might say something different.
I'd agree. Listen, don't be worried about losing that because the bubble championships don't count.
Yeah, they're Mickey Mouse, right? Yeah, right. It kind of was like a – You'd rather actually not win that one, to be honest.
I'll tell you why you'd be on podcasts like this, and we would just be like, that count yeah we'd be like you didn't win a real title have you interviewed anybody from baylor but from now on yeah scott true i think we told him it was did you tell him yeah i think it was but like dude doesn't count i mean i say it's just our hands are tied that wasn't like there were no fans in the stands yeah yeah they had to like cut the cut the football stadium in half it was a weird feel right was it easier to shoot with no fans in the stands, or was it harder? Like, are you talking at the Final Four or just generally? Just in general. Like, not having fans there.
It was probably a weird environment, an environment you'd never played in before. Was it, like, eerie? Did it make it throw off your shot? Yeah, it was really eerie.
But it felt like you were just working out on your own, like a practice. So once you kind of got over the crowd noise getting pumped in, it was just you were in there on a random tuesday night yeah it was it was a very very weird time watching that entire tournament and yeah you don't want to win bubble championships so uh let's try to let's let's make a headline um i like that way you can get in the news and and uh we can get in the news um so you've been in the nba for a year and a half just how overrated is LeBron? Oh, but what?

We can't really credit him with that bubble championship. No, no, no.
Definitely not a win there. Okay, just for him because I have a teammate who won that title as well, and so I'm going to give credit to him.
Have you seen his ring? Who? The teammate who? Yeah, have you seen his ring? I have not seen his ring. Interesting, right? Maybe ask a follow-up question like, hey, dude, you won an NBA title? I've never seen your ring? Probably because he wears gigantic sweaters over top of it all the time.
You can't see his fingers in that big sweater. Are you kidding me? Yeah.
Just ask those questions. Well, so how overrated is LeBron? Yeah, how overrated? Can I not comment on that one? Yeah, all right, fine.
I'll ask a real question. Who is the person outside of LeBron that you have played against that you were a little bit starstruck the first time? Steph.
Yeah. That makes sense.
Yeah, I mean, that's the guy that I grew up watching, and he changed the game, and the person that every three-point shooter is going to follow for the rest of time. So the first time I played him, it just kind of took a minute once the ball went up to really lock in.
Did he cook you? Huh? Did he cook you? Yeah, there was a play in the first game where I came off a screen. It wasn't even on offense.
It came off the screen, and I pump faked and took a dribble right, and he just took the ball for me. I kind of just looked around, and I was like was like damn like just like time to snap in court come on yeah yeah uh would you say that his defense is underrated i would say his defense is underrated one of the more underrated players i think defensively in the nba yeah yeah you see his stature and his um his side his height and you kind of think you can go at him but uh he does a really good job he's got great hands and um steals.
It's a ton of steals for them. Yeah.
I got probably a dumb question, but does anybody ever call bank in a game? Yes. It happens in the NBA? Oh, yeah.
I tried to the other day, actually. Really? I had like a – we call it a grenade, like end of the shot clock, catch the ball, you guys got to put it up.
And it was kind of fading away and threw it up I kind of saw it was trailing. I was like, bank, kind of a quick one.

Missed it, but I called it.

I tried.

That should be a rule.

Yeah, so players have done it to you if they shoot.

They'll say, like, bank. It's never happened to me as I'm guarding somebody,

but I know the guys are just like, bank a shot,

and they'll be like, I actually called that.

Yeah, yeah.

Who's talked the most shit to you so far?

Or are you someone guys don't talk shit to? Well, I kind of generally try to stay out of the way. I mean, I'm only a year and a half in.
Right. And I don't have the pedigree behind me to actually talk shit.
But do people come at you? No. Oh.
It's kind of like, for me, it's been an experience of like, you don't mess with me, I don't mess with you. Like, I'm shit yeah but i think the to answer your question like joe ingles sneaky that rules he's sneaky trash talk like i mean he does little stuff like he'll walk he walk like i wear an arm sleeve during the game and he walked behind me and like just randomly just pulls it all the way down oh i'm literally like a week at me as he's walking by just like the little yeah kind of like old wily vet like old old head stuff.
I like that. I also like that you're open to it, though.
Maybe there should be one guy. There's like a Tinder for just finding another guy to talk shit to you during a game.
Do you have like a – what other NBA guests do you guys really like that I can talk shit to? Deli? I would probably know that this is going on. Blake Griffin, you should be like, I don't think you're the real Blake of the year.
That would actually be very funny. I'm more of a Bortles guy.
Yeah. If you actually said to him, like, in the middle of a game, I'm more of a Bortles guy, it would fuck him up for, like, a brief second.
Because that would be totally unexpected. For another player to just say that, like, yeah, I've always been a Bortles guy.
I've always been a Bortles guy. Yeah, just that.
He would definitely have, like, a second, like, what the hell's going on here? Done. We've got to figure out when you guys are playing.
That's great. Oh, that will be.
Maybe say it. Maybe really.
March 28th. March 28th.
Circle it on the calendar. Is it in Boston or is it in D.C.? It's in Boston.
Home. All right.
Okay. For you guys.
Oh, nice. Nice.
Home turf. I like that.
We'll make like a poster going into it like the showdown in D.C. Yeah.
Kiss reverse. Kiss.
Yeah. Fake Blake.
Fake Blake. I like that.
So, all right. Here's a random one.
So, congrats on getting engaged. Thank you.
You're a twin, and your fiance's also a twin. Yeah, that's correct.
That's wild. Yeah.
I don't really know what else to say. I listen to you guys quite a bit.
I know you have some twin. Well, yeah, you've kissed your sister on the lips as adults.

Actually, it's different.

You actually don't apply.

It's not an identical twin.

Yeah, right.

Your fiance has kissed her sister on the lips as adults.

Because why wouldn't you try to kiss yourself?

That'd be kind of a huge brain explosion thing for sure, right? I think deep down, people want to do that. I've seen that picture of a rod in the mirror.
Like kind of like checking himself out. Yeah.
You love yourself. You want to try to kiss yourself.
You're like, Oh, you're, you're looking attractive today. But so you're.
So then now have I, by like the, like, have I now kissed my fiance's sister as well? Yeah. Like, is that, does that math work out? Yeah.
I like Irrequorid. What's that in math? Irrequorid brothers.
If A equals B, B equals C Transitive property. The transitive property of twins.
So that means you guys are definitely going to have twins. I thought so too but fraternal twins are like genetic but they skip a generation more often than not.
So my mom's mom has twins in her family. Okay.
And then it got to me. And so my kids probably wouldn't because it skips.
And then identical twins are completely random. They're completely like random in nature.
But you're going to have grand twins. Grand twins are very- Oh, you'll have a shitload of grand twins.
We could have a lot of grand's fun that's actually great for you yeah like one family has like three sets of twins has six kids three sets of twins yeah wait so um have you ever well your fiance is a twin have you ever seen your sister-in-law and been like she looks hot today because i like my fiance that's that's something that i've actually really had to like like wrestle with you know yeah it's a deep kind of a it's a deep thought it's it's an unspoken thing but it's right it's real like you find your future sister insanely attractive and they are so yeah they are like genetically identical you know i can't i can't See, that's different, though. No, you really, really love it.
Love is more than just looks. You lost her.
You lost her. Whoa.
Hard. You love looking at her.
This is, yeah. You wouldn't get me in so much time.
I mean, you wouldn't get these questions anywhere else. I didn't expect it.
I'm good. Different variety of the twin question.
Did you guys bond over being twins?

Oh, yeah. 100%.

Yeah, that was kind of a...

I have a follow-up to the

twin question. I don't know if you know

this, but I said

on the Yak yesterday,

Corey Kispert's coming in, and Roan,

who did a video in Idaho

for some reason, I think it was last year.

Met my sister. Yes.

Who is the head of the Idaho Potato Commission.

My sister?

Yeah.

No, I think she was working for a company that was doing their marketing for that.

Okay, so she marketed for potatoes.

Yes.

Okay, maybe not as cool, but still cool.

Still cool.

So she's just a potato marketer?

In that instance, yeah. That's pretty sick.
It was like a contract they were on it's her job just like hey remember french fries yeah french fries are good are you a master a baked person you know like got got mashed like it's like a you know the ad campaign okay so ron kind of fucked me here because he was like yeah she's the head of the idaho potato commission i was like holy shit this is the kissbert family has just success everywhere nba got player. It actually sounds worse.
It sounds like she's a liar. Yeah.
And that she's embellishing her resume. But that's, yeah, potatoes.
So she was with Big Potato for a while. Yeah, she was with Big Potato.
Okay. Do you like potatoes? I love potatoes.
Okay. Are you part of Big Potato? I am not.
However, I'm not a part of Big Potato. I don't live in Idaho.
Do you have a nickname? Do you have a nickname? I actually do not. What about the Big Potato? Oh, yeah.
Or the French fry? The French fry? Not from France, but I do like French fries. I like the Big Potato.
The Big Potato. The curly fry? You got a little curly hair? Mr.
Potato Head? Yeah. Yeah.
That works. So I saw your nickname was Kiss.
That can't be it, right? I mean, that's just a shortened version of my last name. Right.
Which I guess if you did the thing. Yeah.
Right. That works.
I like that. Kiss of Death.
Kiss of Death. That's actually named my fantasy football team.
Yeah. How'd you do? We don't care.
Yeah. Yeah.
We got you. Neither do I, honestly.
It's been a while since we've gotten somebody naturally on the we don't care about your fans here. Don't tell us.
So seriously, you should shoot more, though. Okay.
Big time. Can you take that? So I wanted to ask you, as a fellow Northern Virginian, why aren't you the fan of the Wizards? Why aren't you the national fan of the Wizards? You want the actual answer? Yeah, please.
Okay, I'll give you the actual answer do you live by the way i live in i live in arlington okay cool cool uh so i try colony pizza i was i was born colony pizza colony pizza cool i was born in uh in herndon okay folks live in mcclain now so i've been in northern virginia my entire life i grew up going to wizards games all the time okay my yeah no were you like uh were you like a gilbert arenas cron butler? Yeah, even before that, like Michael Jordan going back in the day, Rip Hamilton goes way back. Chris Webber, Rasheed Wallace.
We've had some great players. So you like our classic jerseys? Do you see those? Yeah, the classic ones are good.
I also like the Bullets jerseys. I remember going to Bullets games too.
My real answer is I have a policy, and that's that I don't use any of my headspace thinking about the Washington Wizards at all until it's after the All-Star break and if you guys are above .500. Because I've learned so often.
It's a hard deal. I've learned so often, rooting for the team, that they can get out to some hot starts, and then I'll get into the team, I'll start watching all these games, and then there will be that swoon.
I'm not saying that that's what you guys are doing right now. I'm saying what my brain has learned throughout history is I have a finite amount of real estate up here.
I'm very dumb, and there's only a few things I can keep track of at the same time. Like, I just forgot who Sean McVay was last week.
So, like, my brain's at a one-in, one-out policy right now. Okay.
And the Wizards, if you guys get above 500 after the All-Star break, then you will not find a bigger Wizards supporter in the world than me. So I guess that's just kind of my line in the sand.
That's how I've always felt about it. Okay, okay.
That is a real answer. I'll take it.
But I do think that you should shoot more. I think if you shot more, more wins.
Maybe we'd be 500 and then, yeah, I mean, that math checks out. Shoot more, win more games.
And PFT is a fan. And then I will be the biggest Wizards fan in the entire world.
Because we don't really have that trademark big-name fan that's always courtside hanging out. I think that would be a great little slot for you.
Do you have courtside tickets tonight? I do not have courtside tickets tonight. I'm still on my rookie contract.
Do any of the Wizards people that came with you have courtside tickets? I would go to a courtside game tonight. But it's also in the garden.
You've got to be like the D.C. family.
Yeah, you've got to go in D.C. Okay, I promise you at some point this season I will go to a Wizards game in D.C.
and I will be prominent, I will be loud and proud for D.C. I promise that will happen at some point.
Promise accepted. That's huge's huge that's huge what's the best game you've played in the nba uh last season against the warriors how many points you score 26 yes you should shoot more yeah you're really good at shooting yeah why wouldn't you have a little confidence oh yeah okay in your shot yeah yeah do you not are you lacking confidence you need us to push up very confident well i mean i wouldn't i wouldn't mind a little positive vibes from the fellas.
Hey, listen, okay. In your shot.
Yeah, yeah. Are you lacking confidence? Do you need us to push up?

I'm very confident.

Well, I mean, I wouldn't mind the little positive vibes from the fellas.

Well, hey, listen, Corey, you're pretty good at basketball.

Oh, thanks.

Yeah, so you should play it.

That means a lot.

And shoot more.

What's the most you've ever made in a row?

Threes in a row?

Yeah.

Just like anytime, randomly?

Yeah.

Yeah, probably in the 40s or 50s.

That's so sick.

You did that. You had a game at Gonzaga, did you not, where you hit likes or 50s.
That's so sick. You did that.

You had a game at Gonzaga, did you not, where you hit like –

That was nine.

Nine is my career high.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Who was that against?

Virginia.

Okay, yeah, the chip on the shoulder.

Yeah.

So what did Tony Bennett tell you?

So he told me one thing and I took it another way.

Okay.

I took it – the LeBron – I mean, the Jordan took it personally.

Yeah, like when you said you don't – you aren't attracted to your sister-in-law and we took it like dude, he wants a fucker. Yeah, that's the same thing.
He basically took me into his office when I was getting recruited there on a visit and he was like, hey, listen, man, we have kind of this race between you and another guy. We don't really know who to offer.
We're kind of leaning back and forth. We're not really really fully committed we don't know if you're good enough to play in the acc like a bunch of different stuff and then i went to gonzaga and it was completely different the visit was like hey you're our guy three four years down the road you're gonna be one of the best ever play here and like immediately so it sold me so i took that conversation with tony bennett as i don't think you're good enough right and then obviously my senior year rolls around and we play in them and the chip on the shoulder game.
I loved it. Yeah.
I think that's legit though. He did not, he could have been more strongly recruited.
And like, have you guys ever had any interaction with Tony Bennett at all? Never. He might be one of the nicest people on the face of the planet.
Like one of those like really like almost obnoxiously nice people. Yeah.
And so it was hard to take it that way. It was hard to like morph that in my mind,

but sure enough,

it worked nine threes,

nine threes later.

It's good that you didn't go there because his advice coaching you would

have been like,

Hey,

just don't shoot the ball.

Yeah.

Just quit shooting more.

Yeah.

Get back on defense.

Maybe you guys should be on the coaches of Virginia.

Maybe they'd score a couple of points occasionally.

Yeah.

It'd be nice.

It'd be nice.

Where else did you get recruited by?

I was the last three were Gonzaga, Virginia and then Notre Dame. Did you take a recruiting trip with duke no okay good good yeah i know you and you and coach gave a pass don't you yeah i was actually just wondering if how bad his breath smells because it probably we beat we beat we beat duke yeah during my career oh yeah so after the game did he like try to scold you or reprimand you no it was you no it was it was uh it it was a quick walk off of the court.
It was like the quick, firm handshake and he's out. Okay.
Because usually he'll ask the other coach, can I come in here? Yeah. Can I come and tell your guys that they got to be classier? You know, stuff like that.
He also likes to pick one guy out that just kicked the shit out of him and then stop him in the handshake line. He'll do the thing where he stops and he puts his hand on the other guy's chest.
Like, I'm really proud of you. And he'll be like, I'm really proud of you for doing that.
You're a credit to basketball, but you're too good of a player to do X, Y, and Z. Just don't do that to us.
And he leans in and he's like, I'm going to have you killed. And that's how it always happens.
Speaking of D.C. sports, curious to know, do you hang out with other D.C.
athletes? Not really. When they show up to games, is it like a game respect game? Yeah, a little game respect game, a little head nod, stuff like that, yeah.
Yeah, you ever make it in this league? Yeah. You go to other D.C.
sports? I love the Caps. Yeah.
Love the Caps. Best game in town, besides the Wizards, I mean.
Of course. But, yeah.
Best game in town. Going to Caps games is so fun because, like, the crowd fills up with all the red.
The red. They get into it.
Just it just watching ov has been fun this year yeah it's been great and they um they've done a great job like supporting us and we support them and um yeah going to their games like it's crazy on like a wednesday night in the middle of january like it's going to be all red it's going to be sold out and the energy and there's going to be great and even if they're you know start of the season was a little bit of a struggle for them yeah like it's still support doesn't waver. That's awesome.
That's what Wizards games could be like if you just shot more. If you just came to games.
You know the meme? Like what the world looks like if this happens and it's all the futuristic stuff? It's what the world looks like if Corey Kispert shot more. All the world's problems would be solved akon city it would be incredible wow every the

the economy would be back we'd have you know everyone be happy smile the sun would be shining

always needs cory kispert to shoot more advice taken yeah i actually have a serious basketball

question for you let's go it seems to me that uh there's a big difference between playing basketball

as i don't know like a 8 9 10 11 12 13 year old and then you hit your growth spurt i never did so

I don't know, like an 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13-year-old, and then you hit your growth spurt. I never did, so I don't know the answer to this question.
Yeah, tough. And then you get big all of a sudden.
Your shooting stroke has to change entirely because you're no longer just bending your knees down to the ground and heaving up a two-handed shot. You have to learn how to get the ball above your head for the first time, which is a completely different anything else that you've been taking was that was that a struggle for you or did you get better at shooting was it easier for you once you got taller and now you're shooting above your head yeah well the key the key is to like try to do the right thing when you're really young when you're really young so my dad played college basketball and he like shot the ball just like I do.
So I learned from him, and he kind of ingrained the right form. And so when I did get bigger, it was like a super easy transition.
And I could step back further and shoot it with accuracy from deeper. Yeah.
Build the groundwork. When you were younger, you were shooting like you were a tall person already.
Yeah, like a kid version of it, sure. Yeah, you could tell're watching like little kids play basketball which ones are like being taught to you know get their elbow in and like not not actually just throw it up yeah yeah and that was you yeah that was me how fun was it to dominate when you were like 12 years old it was pretty sweet yeah watching like it's it's it's one of my it's a really kind of funny and cool thing to do is like when i go home with the parents, like watch some like young videos of me playing basketball.

I'm like, yeah, man, I was a beast.

This is awesome.

Look at me.

I go on those like eight-foot rims.

That was sweet.

What I would give to go back and just like relive that day.

Well, I mean there's probably kids out there who are talking about it the reverse way where like I got my ass kicked by Corey Kispert.

He's in the NBA now.

You know what I mean?

Like when I was 12, I feel like it works both ways.

People are telling tales that way too.

Could be.

Yeah.

Um, are we going to defend him and now it's going to be we're going to get all compile all your stats we're going to become like we'll respond to tweets being like lafraud cory kispert actually better uh with all your stats but we kind of need to get the numbers yeah to actually so we can be like do your job. Yeah, the PER and all these things, the advanced stats.
The advanced, the true shooting percentage. Yeah, like Kispert's actually the best player he's ever played in the NBA.
Cool. You know how they do expected goals in soccer? Yeah.
Expected points for Kispert. Yeah, if Corey Kispert took 12 threes a game, he would actually average like 40 points.
And the Wizards would be above 500. Yeah, yeah.
And PFT would come to games. We would be constantly talking about the Wizards on this podcast.
You have no idea. It would be the biggest topic.
Oh, I have one last, last question. Is Gonzaga ever going to win a national title? Yes.
Yes. But when? Soon? But soon? That's a different question.
Are you sure? I think that we had a really, obviously, a really, really, really good shot when I was there. And my senior year was about as close as we're going to get for a while, I think.
But I think we're going to win one. It is crazy you guys are getting top recruits stealing those from the Blue Bloods.
Well, we're not. I mean, we are Blue Bloods, so who's stealing it from who? That's true.
You guys are the blue blood of the Pacific Northwest. Yes.
Yes. We got that corner to the map.
Yes. All right.
Well, Corey, best of luck the rest of the season. Appreciate you, and we're going to look forward to you going up against Blake and getting in his head.
Yeah, more of a Bortles guy. Thank you, guys.
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Okay, let's wrap up the show. Firefest of the week.
Awesome interview coming on Monday. Start Super Bowl week.
Can I put out the show fire fest of the week awesome interview coming on monday start soup bowl week can i put out a group fire fest real quick yeah group fire fest pete weber's not bowling in the u.s open oh shit i actually have um hold on let's so a writer last night hit me up i almost had to skull fuck this guy okay he explained the situation then he he handed me the contact information. So should we give this guy a call? We should.
I've been tweeting. I almost had to skull fuck this guy.
Okay. He explained the situation.
Then he handed me the contact information.

So should we give this guy a call?

We should.

I've been tweeting.

I've been tweeting at the United States Bowling Congress all morning.

All right.

You know what?

I told him.

I said, I will ask nicely once.

They did not respond to me.

I'm done being nice.

All right.

Hold on.

Let me find this guy.

Gloves are off.

It was very funny because I was like, I asked this bowling writer. I was like, who the fuck should I skull fuck? And then he was just like, here's the guy.
Nice. I was like, okay, cool.
Is there any cooler job in the world than being a bowling writer? Yeah. This guy.
What a sick job that is, huh? All right. I'm going to call this guy right now.
Let's see. Let's see.
All right, call. Let's see if we can get him on the phone, give him a little peace of our mind.
Little Lenny Dykstra? Yeah, little Lenny Dykstra. All right.
Hopefully he picks up. He's probably been expecting my call.
Let's go fuck him. Let's just, if he doesn't pick up, just, Jake, put a reminder.
We'll just call him on every show until he picks up. We need answers.
Nope. He's ducking us.
Oh, this motherfucker. Okay.
I'm not going to say his name because I don't want everyone else to call him, but we will be calling him, and we will get justice for Pete Webber. I think we need to put the pressure on them online, too.
Tweet at the United States Bowling Congress. Let Pete bowl.
Let Pete bowl. Pete needs to be bowling.
It's bad for bowling if Pete Webber is not in, what is it again? The U.S.?

Open.

In the U.S. Open.

The most prestigious tournament of the bowling calendar year.

Let Pete bowl.

That's a fact.

Okay.

Firefest of the week.

Hank.

Just packing for Arizona.

I had to get a new suitcase last night, and it's just big and packed.

The suitcase is big?

Yeah.

You've already packed?

I'm leaving.

I'm going to Boston for the weekend and then to Arizona. More PTO.
I'm staying in Arizona. Are you not here tomorrow? No.
Oh. What if I need you? I was going to be in the office tomorrow.
I was thinking that we could do an extra small part of my take that would come out on Saturday. Also, just maybe a meeting to get us prepped for the Super Bowl? You won't be here? We had one of those.
You missed it earlier. Okay.
Interesting. All right, so you won't be here tomorrow.
Got it. So Hank's fire fest is that he goes on so many vacations that he had to buy a bigger bag to pack.
A bigger bag because he goes away for so long. I'm sorry, Hank.
Sometimes I have fire. Last week, I opened my heart and soul for the people.
What was it again? I forget it. I didn't have a charger.
Oh, yeah. No, you're a psycho.
That was tough. Did you get a charger? No.
I see what. Sorry.
I got to put some money in the chargers. Fuck, I said it again.
And I opened my heart and soul, and it's like, you know, sometimes you don't have great Fyre Fests. Okay.
Yeah. All right.
Good Fyre Fest. I had to use my raise to buy a huge suitcase.
Yeah. So I could go on extended vacations.
All right. I'm sorry.
It's not a good a good fire fest. I don't know.
I'm just, you know, I was going through what, you know, what, what trials and tribulations I went through this past week and it was like, damn, I need to pack a lot of golf shit and a lot of work shit and it's going to be negative 20 in Boston and I'm going to be gone for two and a half weeks. The suitcase isn't big enough.
My fire fest is I have to get a trailer for my boat that I bought and it sucks. That's terrible.
It's so shitty. Yeah.
I didn't actually buy a boat. What type of boat do you got? It's like saying my FireFest, I need to open up a new bank account because all my money is not covered by the FDIC anymore.
Boats are cool. Boats are cool.
Confirmed. Boats are cool.
Yeah. You know what's really cool? Having a friend with a boat.
Yeah. Yeah.
That's real cool. We've actually, there's been some talk about Hank PFT and I going in on a boat.
Yeah. In Lake Michigan.
Doing like a boat timeshare program. Yeah.
We might be in. Ameritimeshare.
They should call it that. We'll never go.
We're going to have to buy Hank a beeper. Hit the hip.
Golf courses, lakes. We're going to have to be able to, I mean, what if there's an emergency? He's like a surgeon.
It's like Tom Brady unretires while you're on the golf. It would be like ER surgeons and then Hank to have peepers.
I don't think you guys realize how my life is just this show and then Barren Wasteland. Oh, so you don't do anything up on the third floor? No, I do the show, but I'm saying outside of work.
Wait, but Hank, I thought you did a lot of other stuff at Barstool besides just part of my take now. I'm saying outside of work.
Obviously, there's a lot of work stuff, but outside of it, Big Cat's always talking about his kids. No one gives him shit for that.
I talk about golf one time, and it's like I'm the worst person in the world. I like how golf has become Hank's child.
It also is really just... Probably harder.
Yeah, it probably is. In reality, it's just that you don't have anything to troll with us on right now.
So you used a lot of energy for the Cowboys. Now you need a break.
I'm not a troll. Right.
You're not a troll. Why would you even say that if you're not a troll? Because you just said you're out of stuff to troll.
You brought up. You said I'm not a troll.
After you said you're out of stuff to troll. No i didn't i didn't say i need to go to therapy because of how bad you guys got me okay hey do you want to do a ride tomorrow no you don't i don't i thought you didn't have anything else i thought your life was a barren i'm gonna be in boston is there any room for a bike ride in a call of duty eventetin board material for pickleball.
Oh, there we go. Yeah, we are going to have a pickleball match.
Hold on, they already accepted losing and they're going to put no effort into it. Well, no, we don't.
We either accepted winning or not caring about it if we lose. Yeah.
It's a pretty fail-safe way to go about life. It's the absolute best.
If we lose, we're just going to be like, well, we never care. It's a stupid sport for dorks.
But if we win, still got it. Young bucks don't know yet.
I mean, he just said he's going to a Call of Duty event. What does that even mean? You are? A military major two.
Wait, what? They do Call of Duty live events called a LAN. And you're going to one? It's in Boston.
As a spectator? I know. I mean, I know some people.
It's like the Boston Breach is the organization. You are going to an event as a spectator.
I was invited. You're going to have like a hot dog and a soda and sit in an arena and watch a table of people on a computer play video games.
I talk about the things that I like to talk about and I get roasted for it. I like Call of Duty.
Fucking sue me. I'm not going to sue you.
There's nothing wrong with it. No, it's a fun hobby.
Say that to them, Jake. Say that to them.
It's a fun hobby. Go play your fucking string machine.
Is he talking about a guitar? Are you a guitar? Yeah. A string machine? All right, DFT, what's your fire fest? Esports are very popular.
My fire fest is, I guess I play a string machine and that's a really dorky thing to do. No, I don't really have any great fire fest this week.
My big fire fest is really for America. Can I put America in my fire fest? Sure.
No. Because you guys are letting a groundhog ruin your day today.
Punxsutawney Phil saw his shadow, so he goes back in his little cave, and now he gets six more weeks of winter, right? Be a fucking man. I'm going to put on shorts right in that little rat fuck's face.
I'm going to wear shorts all next week. You know what? This is how much of a man I am.
I'm going to put on shorts and T-shirts all next week. I know it's 30 degrees right now.
I haven't looked at the temperature to see what it's going to be in New York City next week. But I'm going to wear shorts and short-sleeved t-shirts just to show that little wannabe Greta Thunberg telling me, oh, the sky is falling, that I'm a man and I can make my own decisions and wear shorts any day of the year.
All next week and the week after. Phil hasn't ruined my day.
I just hope he gets hit by a fucking bus. He's a fraud bitch.

Your tweet this morning made me laugh.

I mean, he's a bitch.

I hope he fucking dies.

Have you seen his vested holding?

I'm preying on Punxsutawney Phil's downfall.

Yeah, he is a bitch. And if you let a groundhog dictate your day, I don't know if I can help you.

He invested in heating oil stocks before he made his decision.

Punxsutawney Phil did.

Pelosi's situation?

Yeah, yeah.

Just like check out where he's putting his money before he makes a decision. Damn.
Pump and dunks, bro. Pucks of Tony Paul.
I'd put a bullet in that fucking rat's face. Big winter, bro.
I would just sit on it. You could kill a groundhog just by sitting on it.
Kick it. Kick it in the face.
Bill de Blasio killed the only good groundhog. That's true.
Wait, so, shouldn't we all applauding Bill for his efforts? No, no. He killed the good one, and now we got this one who's corrupt.
Also, Frank told me he tried to get rid of soda and salt in New York City. No, those are facts.
Yeah, so we can't have that. All right, I don't have a Fyre Fest either.
I actually have a very awkward moment after Hank has shamed me for having children. At least I don't deflect.
Yeah, at least I don't deflect. At least I try and dig deep.
I put effort in. Okay, so my fire fest is you can't call me a father or two anymore because my son keeps waking up, so we're putting him up for adoption.
Just kidding. I'm having another child, so thanks, Hank, for making me feel like a shithead for being a dad.
But yeah, I'm having another child. Congrats.
I won't shame you for it. Thank you.
Father three loading. Congratulations.
Thank you. Everyone here knew it, so Hank was just really...
I don't know if I'm supposed to say congrats. Do you not know it? As I've congratulated you.
Yeah, Three is also weird because no one cares about Three. No, but let me put it for the podcast.
Congrats for the podcast. Thank you.
We do our congratulations in private because we're good friends. Yes.
So another son. So I boy boy girl boy um yeah i that's it three is three is this is the point i don't know i thought it was going to be big cromarty over here i thought he was pull out right i just go for the rest of my life i just go i just go in back door yeah no i'm very excited even though hank has tried to shame me all podcast um but i'm very excited.
Number three. So, father of three, I can finally be the true LeBron tweet that I've been mocking all these years.
I'm going to find his LeBron tweet. I appreciate and support you pursuing your passions.
I think we all should do that. My passion is having children? Yeah.
I mean, you're the horniest guy on the show. That's confirmed.
Proven. Confirmed.
Or I'm the only one who actually isn't shooting blanks. This definitely goes.
Also could be proven. This definitely goes on the bonk list, by the way.
Having a third child. Having a third child.
I also put on. I might name this kid Hank and shun him for my entire life.
The third. Big Cat just said.
Just be like Henry and just never talk to him. That would actually be an awesome move by me.
Our name LeBron. Yeah.
LeBron Kats would be a solid name. I almost had to skull fuck him.
Well, that's not horny. That's on there.
I don't skull fuck for pleasure. I skull fuck for purpose.
For results. Yeah.
I do end up coming eventually from the skull fuck. But yeah, I'm having a third child.
So Hank completely ruined this announcement. It's not really a big announcement.
I feel like having the first child is a big announcement. Third child, he's going to be a fucking chill ass dude.
And I'll make sure that... I am the third child.
I also have the same exact... Yeah, we know.
We can tell the energy that you are. Family setup.
Boy, girl, boy. Okay.
Wow. Look how I turned out.
Fantastic. Man.
Can I put a future on your son if he's going to follow in Hank's footsteps here?

I want to put a... Wait for a second, Hank.

I'd like to put a future on him to win a major championship like they did with Rory.

I just have a feeling this kid's going to be a strong golfer.

Yeah, I'm going to podcast my balls off.

It also means that we'll have another life advice episode at some point with Titus and Rosillo so yeah early June we'll do that we'll go back to the well um what if he has the same birthday as your first son wasn't it June yes wow that'd be wild yeah that would that would probably be uh actually that'd probably be good just double up they would hate that yeah they would hate that yeah yeah are you purposely conceiving for the off season i mean there's yeah i mean it's nice not having children during football season yes i am a football guy that is that's a football guy i should win football guy of the year that's a fact i think more football players more coaches should prevent their players from having sex between january and let's call it mid-april yeah i'm not yeah it's it's fact. I'm not trying to fuck up the football season.
That's fucking sick. Yeah.
That's, that's the type of sacrifice I make for this show. Others won't, you know, step away from the golf course for 36 holes.
No, if you guys need me, I'm there. Let me know.
So yeah. All right.
That's the announcement. Again, it's not really third kid.
It's like, oh, yeah, you're having another kid.

But I'm done at three.

Four gets weird, I feel like.

No offense to anyone who's part of four.

Really?

One of four as well.

Well, I mean, I'm not going to say what I was about to say.

Were you one of those families?

I'm not.

You don't want.

I mean, you're going to say it.

Well, if your mom's that hot, like're going to have to have four. I didn't even notice.
I thought she was just a lovely lady. You pulled that out of me, Jake.
Hank, that's got to be on the list. Your next step would have been, I'm not going to say it, but if I was going to say it, this is what I would say.
Your mom's hot is what I would say. Okay, Billy.
That's a compliment, by the way. She's a very nice woman.
She is. I'm going to stay 100% out of this conversation.
Put it on the bonk list because that will be funny to read in a year. Jake's mom is hot.
Confirmed. If you're that hot, you have to have four kids.
Billy. First Firefest.
Oh, you have multiple? Yeah, bowling. Just sore in the weirdest places.
Like places I've never been sore in my life. Like the top of my side of my hip.
It was weird. Okay.
Just weird. Okay.
And my hands. Maybe you should hit the gym.
Well, your hands isn't a weird place to be sore from bowling. But just from holding such a heavy thing

Well, you have soft hands. This is true.

This is confirmed. This is true.
Second thing

trying

to get into war, basically getting close

into war mode in a little bit of a

fight limbo right now.

But your war mode is loading.

It's loading. It's committed.
We're putting in the

hours and don't

know if this is officially happening

but trying to get this fight

together. Something's coming on for March

Thank you. mode where you're just like doing the whole month sober getting into war mode so time's closing in i did hear from billy mcfarlane this morning what do you say he's down to fight you fuck yeah all right now what we have to do is we gotta we gotta figure out the negotiations and i i'm extricating myself from that process i don't want to crap where i eat i'm gonna let you figure that out as long as it gets straightened out there's a possibility it happen on March 3rd, and he'll be fighting for the honor of the Bahamas.
He wants you to help man like a pop-up food truck if you lose. I told him you'd be fine with that.
No, and if Billy wins, he's going to give all his money to the people of the Bahamas. Again, I'm extricating myself from the negotiation.
Other Billy is. No, both the Billy's.
No, no. It's a battle for the people of the Bahamas.
The good people of the Bahamas that sacrificed so much and got so very ripped off. And I just wanted to say thank you, Billy, for donating your future winnings to the people of the Bahamas.
Other Billy is. That's a huge move.
Part of his restitution. That's a huge move.
Other restitution. We've got a great name and logo for it.
Fire Fist. How cool is that? Billy versus Billy.
And then Billy versus Billy. You get the orange tile with a blood spatter on it as the logo for it.
How sick would that be? So we're going to skull fuck him. Look, the guy is coming into the social media realm right now, and I think he could be the next Andrew Tate, and I need to stop him before he reaches those heights.
Okay. It's Billy's version of going back in time to kill baby Hitler.
Exactly.

If you look at what he's doing, he's developing

a lot of youthful minds

and trying to turn them into the next

generation of stans. So you want to expose him

to an audience of millions.

Right, and take him out.

To say, don't be like this.

Even if you win the fight,

he will still be able to use all those hands. He'll have more eyes.
Billy's going to be like, don't be like this. But after this, he's not going to be able.
Even if you win the fight, he will still be able to use all those ass, right? He'll have more eyes, yeah. No, but Billy's going to be like, see this chill bro that I actually secretly like? Don't be like him.
No, I'm going to beat his ass. I'm going to skull fuck him.
It's going to be sick. Do you think that this fight will go more than 10 seconds? Yes.
It would be funny if Billy McFarlane took a dive. I mean, Billy.
Just if every time Billy got in the ring, the guy just took a dive.

You know what would be funny?

If he hosted this in the Bahamas, and then he made people buy a bunch of tickets for it,

and then he just didn't show up at the last second.

But that's not going to happen because we're going to make sure that it happens.

And it's going to be, if it happens, it will be in West Virginia.

And it was funny because he got back to me today, and I floated the to him I was like what about our Billy Billy versus Billy because Ja Rule apparently has no interest in finding Billy McFarland Billy McFarland was like oh man but I like Billy and I was like yeah Billy likes you too I think I think that there's a buddy I don't like I don't like him at all. Talk that shit, champ.
War mode. Talk that shit, champ.

This is going to be a public execution.

War mode.

Let's go, champ.

He's going to be a Christian in the Coliseum, and he's going to get fed to the lions.

Let's go.

For the people.

You're a lion.

Yeah, I'm a lion.

Eat some kneecaps.

Exactly.

Undercard me versus Punxsutawney Phil.

Yeah.

If Punxsutawney, I'm calling him out right now.

If he wants to get in the ring with me, I will fuck him up.

Just stomp him.

Imagine that. Yeah, that'd be sweet.
Like, kill the fucking... What are they? They're rats.
Rats? Yeah, just put a... They're actually marsupials and they lay eggs.
Great. I know, I just want to see Billy get really mad about that fake animal.
All right, so warm-up loading. So no one offer Billy a free beer this weekend if you see him.
Absolutely not. Don't do that.
Absolutely not. Don't.
Not even if it's really, really cold and refreshing looking. Actually, I think I could easily...
I'm going after this. The last two years I've been honing in my skills.
These hands are more dangerous than they were the first time. Wow, that's really dangerous.
How many months of vacation can we put you down for after you win this fight? Zero. I'm actually taking no vacation before the fight.
So when you guys are on vacation. Except maybe going to the Bahamas to film some background stuff.
I don't think I'm going to do that. Just so you guys know, that's not why I'm doing this.
Be wearing the part of my cheesesteak trunks going in. It's going to be a fun time.
It's definitely going to be a rough and rowdy you're going to want to see.

Love it. Guaranteed.

But it hasn't been signed yet. No.
We'll get that done. Wipe that smile off his face.

Dude, I'm going to knock him off the internet.

Yeah. Oh, wow.

No, seriously.

That's what I wanted to do to Ravel, but they wouldn't let me

fight him. Literally.
Well, I thought you were

scared to fight Ravel. No, you made people

think I was scared of Ravel because for some reason you didn't want me to fight him. I wasn't the one who decided.
Yes, you did. No, it was not me.
You told me that. It was above me.
I don't know about that. 100%.
I don't know about that. I could find the text that was not me to decide you can't fight Ravel.
When I first said that I wanted to fight Ravel, you told me that you didn't think it was a good idea. He would win because he wins all of those interactions.
No, I would beat the fuck out of him and knock him out the internet. You think Ravel would beat me? No.
You're not understanding what I'm saying. When I beat him 11 to nothing, he won because he just basically showed up and was like, I'm a sad sack.
No, but it's different backing a poor sad sack down to the post nine times opposed to like punching his lights out. Right, right.
He's got quick hands. No, I would beat the fuck out of him.
I know you would. He somehow like squirms his way into getting more publicity.
That's why I wanted to wipe him off the internet. He'd have to delete his Twitter if I beat him.
That would be the stakes. Oh, he wouldn't do that.
I would not. What if we offered him a million dollars if he beat me? If he loses.
Again, I wasn't the one who decided you can't fight him, so you gotta talk to the people who decide that. Why didn't you fight him? I wanted to.
I don't think you... Big Cat thought he was gonna lose.
No, Big Cat and Dave... Dave didn't want him to be fighting.
No, but you and Dave were both like, no, we don't want to do this. Well, yeah, I don't want to give him a platform.
That's a fact. But we'll give Billy McFarlane a platform.
I had nothing to do with that. You decided that.
I want to beat the fuck out of Darren Revelle. And I would smash him.
I would smash his nose in. I would make him cry.
You've already given Billy McFarlane a platform. What are you talking about? I would make him cry.
I would beat the shit out of Darren Revelle. That's all I'm saying.
And so... Some people said you were ducking.
Don't do that. I said yes to the fight.
I say again, in case there's any dispute, anytime, any place, you don't even have to pay me. What about March 3rd? Yes, I will fight Darren Revelle March...
I said anytime, any place. Who would be the undercard? You would.

You did that to yourself.

You would definitely be the undercard in that situation.

Are you serious?

That is true.

Can you find him another rough and rowdy?

Anytime, any place.

Yes, anytime, any place.

In the street, in the hallway, at his office.

I'll show up and beat him up at his office if he wants to. Anytime, any place.
I will beat him up. That's a fact.
Baby. You don't have to pay me.
Jake. Jake, you're fine.
Yeah, so just an update on the recovery. I think it's all out of my system now.
Took a while. Physically, shoulder, lower back, or meh math i felt worse though math official diagnosis math i was i felt more sore after squat my first squat again with the crew okay so i think the wrist guard helped my wrist did not hurt at all i mean your performance at the end was stuff of turkey's 188 8 and 9 yeah just through it.
You think if you go back to the bowling alley right now, you'll be a good bowler? Probably. Yeah, a lot of practice.
Yeah. You got good at the end.
Yeah. Yeah.
Could be like 200 one day. Yeah, 188's a fucking diesel score.
Thank you. Yeah.
Yeah, so hopefully a few more days and I'll be good by the time we head to Arizona. Okay.
Also, another basketball game tonight. Oh.
Friday night. Siena, first place in the MAAC at Manhattan on ESPN3.
The other MAAC. So, it should be a fun game.
You've got to make sure that doesn't confuse people. MAAC.
7 o'clock, ESPN3 Friday night. I think your system is undefeated in my games.
Yeah, it is. I will bet the over.
I will be betting the over on that game. What is it, Sienna versus who? Manhattan.
What do we call ESPN 3? Like ESPN 8's the Ocho, 2's the Deuce. Trey.
Trey. ESPN Trey? Yeah.
That sounds good. ESPN 2? Yeah, so tune in tonight, 7 o'clock.
Love it. Love it.
And if you don't tune in, you're a scumbag. All right.
Numbers. Hank, have you ever gotten this? 69.
17. Shout out to AWL Nick.
He notified me that the 45 ball, which was the last show, was used on yesterday's Yak. So do we want to confirm that it was put back? Oh, okay.
We weren't here. Right.
Okay. So I don't know if it's in there or not.
All right. There might be 98 balls.
I'll go 51. Is that the one you did last time? 51? I don't know.
I think you did 31. No, I think you did 51.
I'm going to go 70. Do you want me to pull the tape? Yeah, just figure out what she could guess.
Also, shout out to listener Alex Grawl. Alex Grawl, he was listening to our podcast a couple weeks ago while he was operating an automatic saw and cut his fingers off by mistake because he was listening to our podcast a couple weeks ago while he was operating automatic saw and cut his fingers off

by mistake because he was apparently laughing

at our podcast.

So we sent him a care package. He just got it.

So shout out to him. I hope your fingers

I hope the reattachment surgery was successful.

He's going to find out probably in the next

couple days I would imagine. So I would

like it if your fingers worked in the future.

Yeah. Hank, wait.
Have you ever gotten this? No. Okay.
That's too bad. What was your number, Hank? 17.
PFT, what was yours? 70. 70.
I'm 51. 18.
It was 31, Jake. Or 51.
It was 51. I did one 51 on 31.
One. Yeah, so unsure if this is 98 or 99 balls.

81.

Damn, my reciprocal.

81.

Too bad, Hank.

So sad.

Love you guys. Take on me Take on me Take me Take on me I'll be gone Take on me Needless Thank you.
Stay after me It's the better to be safe than somebody Stay after me It's the better to be safe than play my love for you You're all the things I've got to remember When you're shying away All you can Thank you. Take me out.
Take me out.

I'll hold you.

Take me out.

Take me out.

Take me out. Take me.

Take on me.