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now in the street there is violence and then a lot of work to be done No place to hang out or wash in And then I can't blame all on the sun Oh no We're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue And then we'll take it higher Oh we're gonna rock down to it's part of my take presented by barstool sports welcome to part of my take today is friday december 23rd and pft i think i speak for both of us when i say i just feel bad for billy having to watch that i just feel so bad that he had to watch zach wilson and the jets i feel bad well don't you feel bad it's tough because like as a taylor heineke guy and uh big cat you as a justin fields guy like it's it's rough to to watch billy watch those jets the revolving door of quarterbacks they've got, and they keep going back to Zach Wilson. And it's like, when are they going to learn that, man, I don't know.
Some guys just don't understand good quarterback play, so I feel bad. I feel bad.
PFT, Zach Wilson is so bad at football. Halfway through the game, I started watching Prime Vision.
Shout out our guy Sam Schwartstein, who does a great job there. So I could see the all-22 angle, just to see how bad he is.
And he's worse than bad. He was missing wide open.
That second and 25 play, where he, I think he had Garrett Wilson streaking down the field wide open, and he just held the ball, held the ball until he was covered. It was almost like I got to wait until there's like two Jaguars there, and then I'll let it rip.
He is so lost. He is so bad.
Chris Strievler comes in. It's over for Zach Wilson.
Like you can't. I know Mike White like getting injured.
Joe Flacco, by the way, shout out out. He looked like he wanted to be anywhere but on that sideline tonight.

He was wearing the coat, having the helmet all the way down.

Zach Wilson is so bad.

He's so bad, Big Cat.

I actually think you were watching the alternate channel.

I was looking for the Dude Perfect broadcast because I actually think that any of those guys could step in and be a better quarterback than Zach Wilson right now. I think if Zach Wilson showed up to the Dude Perfect warehouse in Dallas, Texas and threw a couple balls, like a couple tennis balls across the room, they'd be like, dude, who do you know here? Are you sure you're in the right spot? zach wilson couldn't even play for dude perfect at this point it was so bad and i just want to say a shout out to jets fans not billy because billy uh tried to shame us earlier in the year saying that he feels bad for commanders and bears fans but all the jets fans at the game and who have to go through this because they know like this has been their similar to our history like this is their history as quarterbacks like this but Jets fans the crowd shots were so funny they were they were on their boo game early which I respect the hell out of because that's how bad he's been there also was it was so bad and this happened to Strievler too when he had Uzama running down the field but it happened for for Zach Wilson as well.
Jets fans were yelling out, like, there's an open receiver before the quarterback for the Jets could see the receiver. Like, they were like, that guy's open.
Like, ah, please, please throw it. And then the quarterback would be like, oh, shit, maybe I should throw it.
That's how bad it got. So shout out Jets fans.
Everyone in MetLife Stadium tonight could have played better than Zach Wilson. And some people are saying like, oh, wow, great sports town.
Like sarcastically, like you're booing your own quarterback. I think they are a great sports town.
They went out tonight in a game that was, what, it's probably like 30 degrees outside. It's rainy, snowy a little bit, shitty.
Just a terrible, terrible night to go out to watch this football game.

They have every single right to boo Zach Wilson.

Zach Wilson was doing what you're talking about when he was waiting so long

for his receivers to get open.

It looked like he was playing 500.

You remember playing 500?

Yeah.

You wait, you throw it into a big group of like four people,

and then whoever comes down with it comes down with it.

He did that several times, and it was awful. And then Strievler gets in there and at least he's a spark.
Like Strievler is a gamer. That's he's Taysom Hill light.
Well, I was going to say like, if you squint real hard or get real drunk, he's like Tim Tebow. He's everything they wanted Tebow to be.
Whereas number 15, but except like Tim Tebow with an edge, you know, I liked watching Strievler play. good spark guy the rest of the offense seems actually i was going to say the offense seems to respond to strever i think the offense just seems to respond to not having zach wilson out there anyone and i mean i i don't even know like he he can't i don't think he he's redeemable at this point because you've now benched him twice for two different quarterbacks the Jets have wasted an incredible defense which like that and people will say like oh the offensive line wasn't helping him if you're watching that game and you think the offensive line was the problem like they weren't great but you saw it right from the get-go they get the fumble, they're in the red zone and Zach Wilson doesn't just do like a simple protection check and gets absolutely blasted by a blitz, uh, you know, by the linebacker, like the third play of the game.
He also is just so scared of making mistakes that he holds onto the ball and he gives his offensive line no chance. So I don't think it's an offensive line thing.
I don't think it's a coaching thing. I think Zach Wilson is completely lost.
I'm not saying he can't find it sometime in the future. His ceiling is Mahomes, as we've learned from Billy.
But that wasn't like, oh, the rest of the team failed him. Zach Wilson is just completely lost mentally, you know, quarterbacks that come in and have great handoffs.
I love, I love a good backup quarterback with a crisp handoff, but in reality, Zach Wilson, when he hands the ball off, you get like, you get the butthole pucker that you get with a bad quarterback. That's prone to throwing interceptions when they throw a pass.
Like Zach Wilson just looks like he does not know what he's doing at all. he has the ball in his hands in the backfield credit to the Jaguars Jaguar Trevor Lawrence oh looks awesome awesome it it seems like him and Doug are getting into this mode where they're like they're doing the mind meld the Doug Peterson mind meld where he gets in his own quarterback's head and they seem to be like operating as one like it's a very zen thing that happens to Doug Peterson offenses sometimes when it's like the quarterback is the extension of the coach and the coach is the extension of a quarterback.
I can feel that like it's like I just saw Avatar for the first time last week. Their hairs are like braid touching right now, and they're just becoming one unit.
It's fun to watch. And the Jaguars, so Trevor Lawrence, we've had questions about him playing in rain, in cold.
He played well tonight. He was running the football as well, making good decisions.
Tough environment to play in against a good defense. And he played very well.
And the Jaguars are going to the playoffs. I'm going to say it right now, the Jaguars are going to the playoffs because they just went and they beat the Cowboys and the Jets back-to-back weeks.
Next week they have to play the Texans, which are their kryptonite, so that does make you a little nervous. But with the Ryan Tannehill news and you have Malik Willis, the Titans have to play the Texans and the Cowboys.
If they lose one of those two, week 18 becomes for the AFC South. The Jaguars are ascending.
The Titans are falling apart. I think the Jaguars are going to the playoffs, PFT.
I think we're going to get Trevor Lawrence and Doug Peterson in the playoffs. And not only are we going to get them in the playoffs, we're going to get a home playoff game in Duval.
Think about that. That's going to be awesome.
The pool is going to be filled, people jagging off left and right. Jackson DeVille is going to be wearing his finest black tie affair.
I love it. I love it for Jacksonville.
That would be so cool to see. It's great.
Yeah. I think you're right, too.
I've said since week four, congrats to the Tennessee Titans for winning that division. But with the Tannehill news, it seems like if I were a betting man, which I am, so I guess I'll have to do this.
I got to bet on the Jaguars to win that division. And yeah, good, good for Jacksonville.
It's, it's, it's exciting to see. So Billy, your boy, Zach Wilson, AKA Patrick Mahomes, the honest question.
Do you think that Patrick Mahomes would be a better quarterback for the Jets if he only was allowed to use his left hand? That's actually terrible because Patrick Mahomes is so good with dumping the ball off of his left hand that he may have created more offense. Yeah, I would say so.
Or let's say not even left hand. Let's say Patrick Mahomes has to throw everything either sidearm or underhand.
No overhand throws. Oh, my God.
He would be like three times the quarterback that Zach Wilson is. And one more thing.
I want to hear your thoughts, Billy. But one more thing about Zach Wilson.
The comments after the Patriots game are just as detrimental as his play. Because if he didn't do that, I think people wouldn't like there's a feeling of like piling on because second year quarterback you hate to do that but Zach Wilson feels like he deserves it because of those comments and his like attitude of like it's not my fault like I can do this you guys are stupid it's not me it's it's everyone else on the team so like he he really like those comments just stick in my head every time i'm like do i feel bad for zach wilson i'm like no no no i don't because in his head he's like no no everyone else sucks i'm the man but he's not billy so looking at the jets schedule at the beginning of the season i saw that this was the one prime time game and i was by that point in the season, we will know if Zach Wilson is the guy or not the guy.
Yeah. Good call by you.
Wait, so you're trying to get credit right? No, no, no. Listen, Billy was right.
Hashtag Billy was right. I'm not trying to get credit.
Billy, do we know? Do we or do we not? Do we not find out tonight? No, no, we know. And I was like, okay, I'm going to try to be as supportive as I can for this young guy.
And when the media turns on him, I'm still going to be positive. At this point, I do not think he is for the New York Jets.
24-year-olds in the workplace. I think in a smaller market, if he does some ayahuasca and gets a total different mindset.
It's the market now? Yeah, it's the market. You're an extension of Zach Wilson where you're just blaming everyone but Zach Wilson.
No, no, I think he definitely is totally messed up in that system. He's not making – he's scared out of his fucking life to throw the ball all the time.
It's a system – Dude, maybe he sucks. No, no, no.
Let's list reasons why Zach Wilson hasn't worked out for the Jets. Number one, the bright lights of the New York media.
Number two. Which he should be able to deal with the eye black on every game.
Yeah. He should be able to deal with the bright lights.
No, I'm not defending him anymore. I'm not defending him anymore.
By the way, Zach Wilson, you can't be a do-rag guy anymore. You just can't.
You have to take the do-rag. Snatch his do-rag.
He's no longer part of the do-rag club. Headband.
And number two, I would say the system that he has to run that requires him to be good at quarterback, he doesn't fit in with that. Also, Elijah Moore was not nice to him.
Remember when Elijah Moore was like, throw me the ball, dude? And that was kind of mean. Why would you say that? You know he can't throw you the ball.
It's very clear he can't throw you the ball. Reason number four, Jack Mack didn't take down the TikTok of him when it got discovered that he was having sex with an older woman.
He didn't take that down fast enough.

By the way, imagine being the guy,

like your wife cheats on you with Zach Wilson.

You've got to be pumped right now, right?

You've got to be so excited that he sucks.

No, opposite.

I think you're like, if you're going to cheat on me, at least cheat on me with a pro bowler.

No, no.

I think you're pumped because you get to just rub her face and be like, look at this loser you had sex with. Don't you feel bad? She's like, yeah, I had sex with a loser because you couldn't satisfy me.
I don't know. That's way different.
No, no, you have it exactly opposite. If your wife cheats on you with Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen, you're like, well, I'm not those guys.
I'll never Zach Wilson you're like I'm better than him how could you do that to me okay I guess in this situation I'm envisioning the couple has separated already and now you get to at least like laugh at her and oh yeah I'm saying like if they're still together if they're trying to reconcile you're like this is what you risked this is what you put all our marriage on the on the line for for this guy who can't fucking hit an open receiver to save his life well i i know that if it's like in buffalo probably half of the marriages up there would would encourage their wives to sleep with josh allen but like if if if your marriage breaks up because your wife cheated on you with with joe burrow you'd be like well i mean what am i supposed to do it's joe burrow you know what i mean like you can't you have to put your hand up like you it's joe burrow like you'd be like, well, I mean, what am I supposed to do? It's Joe Burrow. You know what I mean? Like you can't, you have to put your hand up.
Like you, it's Joe Burrow. Like you can't compete with that.
Zach Wilson, everyone can compete with that. I think Billy could have done better than Zach Wilson.
I'm going to be honest. Yeah.
Fucking hell. Yeah.
I was watching the fucking game. I was watching the fucking game and looking at concepts that I ran in high school that he was reading wrong i'm serious and i like my arm talent it's not fucking pro arm talent but i could have made some throws and just get it to guys to make plays you know i was going off during the game because i was watching the game i like all my friends were out watching the game because everyone had work off like christmas and everything.
And I was at home on the couch watching the game, and it was so goddamn frustrating. And when Strebler came in, I was like, fuck yeah, this is a gamer.
This is a guy playing the CFL, ball down the preseason. Let's create some offense.
And he actually might create offense for this team, in the moment, he didn't create enough momentum to actually get something going. But that's just because he hasn't gotten the reps.
Zach Wilson is fucking pussyfooting with the football. He plays with his dick between his legs and a mangina.
I'm sorry. I'm done defending him.
I'm done defending him. I'm done.
I wanted to. I wanted to.
I've been doing it all season. I've been doing it all season.
No, I'm done defending him. I'm done.
I wanted to.

I wanted to.

I've been doing it all season.

I've been doing it all season.

No, I'm not done. This has been a good rant, but let's just mute him right now.

Wait, wait.

No, I want to say something real quick.

Billy, I'm giving you your Jets fandom pinstripes back because that's how every –

what you just said is how every Jets fan feels right now, so you're back.

Because there was a while there where I was like, dude, if you keep calling him Patrick Mahomes,

like Jets fans are going to fucking turn on you.

You're back.

You're back.

Thank you. You're back.
I'm a 23-year-old in media, in the workforce. I'm trying to have a unique take and just back him up for the whole season.
I can't do it anymore. I can't.
You're back. I can't.
That was primetime television. That was primetime television.
And it was like I had buddies at the bar Snapchatting me, taking shots every time there was a three and out. And I'm sitting on my couch watching him stink.
Nice shirt, by the way. Party shirt.
Yeah, it's a great shirt, Billy. So when we said that we were about to start recording and you said heading back, where were you just curious where you were heading back from whoops literally watching that game stone cold silver from the bar he wasn't at the bar he was across the room at the bar in the water corner with all the other sober people yeah with all the other totally sober 23 year olds oh my god he's so bad all right billy i like that rant it's no it's just ridiculous the thing is the thing is if you have any other not even conservative quarterback but just a guy a game manager that's all like that's all you need in that system but we got a crazy playmaker who can make throws that not many people can make admittedly but.
But that's the only thing he's got. It's like – it's literally – it's not the fucking – he has no motion in the ocean.
He's just got a big arm. Yeah.
So why don't they just run that play from his pro day every single time? Yeah, run the – well, he did. And he missed Garrett Wilson so badly.
Yeah. I got a stat here for you.
Jets offense for the first seven possessions with Zach Wilson, 78 yards. With Shrievler for one possession, 83 yards.
Yeah. Gamer.
Gamer. He's a gamer.
It's especially sad. And I actually do feel bad for Jets fans because now that Billy has come to grips, and this is why PFT and I laughed at him so hard when he said after Thursday night football he feels bad for us.
Billy, you're home. There's no two people who can tell you better what bad quarterback play looks like than us.
And the thing that's frustrating for Jets fans, and I feel this frustration, their defense is still very good. And they have good skill players.
And if you miss the quarterback, it's like you just wasted a team that on its whole, like the roster, is really fucking talented and the one guy screws up the whole thing. And that's the worst thing to watch but it is so painful to watch i've watched it many many times it sucks but the spin zone here is you're a quarterback away so you have you have a white away you have a young roster they're going to be good for a couple years i think that they've set themselves up pretty good sala is a good coach i think we can agree at least defensively.
He turned the defense around. Last year they were a terrible defense.
I don't know if it's just his name, but I think LeFleur is a good coordinator. He seems like he's relatively competent.
It's hard to tell when you have Zach Wilson out there executing your plays for you. I'd like to see LeFleur figure out what he would do if he's trying to kick three field goals to to make up eight points but then we can decide if that's like a genetic thing that's just passed down we need to yeah we need to we need to check that with him um but he seems like he's a good play caller he seems like he at least like has a plan that he tries to execute it it feels like it would make sense if it was competently run but uh you're just a quarterback away so you can say there's going to be some quarterbacks that come up in free agency this summer you can look at jimmy g they wanted jimmy g earlier i actually think that with jimmy g the jets probably win 10 games yeah well you know what's crazy pft at the beginning of the season remember i said when the jets were like seven and two i was like the jets feel like the 2018 Bears, where the 2018 Bears defense was probably a little bit better because it was, you know, Khalil Mack was like out of his mind that year and all that stuff.
And I was like, and deep down, you know, the guy who's the quarterback is probably holding you back. Mitch Trubisky would have this team in the playoffs.
Mitch Trubisky on the Jets right now would have this team in the playoffs. I was wrong.
I was very wrong. Zach Wilson is not Mitch Trubisky.
He's way worse. Bad years.
This is a bad year for quarterbacks named Wilson. Actually, Zach Wilson, go be a javelin thrower.
Seriously, go try to be in the Olympics for javelin throwing. He doesn't smoke weed.
Yeah, so he can do it. Yeah, but – Emmanuel Acho is great with it.
You have a great arm. By the way, did you see that one – did you see that kid in India that took a javelin through his, like, neck and he had emergency surgery to pull it out? He's fine now.
But I got tagged, like, a million times in that story. And people were co-tagging Emmanuel Acho on that, being like, hey, you were right be safe out there that's perfect Billy I'm proud of you though because this was needed like no I literally let it out and that's what Jets fans are feeling right now because it's it's shitty it's shitty you guys had a playoff team and if Mike White doesn't you know break all the ribs in his body I still think they're a playoff team because I think they probably would have won one of these last couple games.

It's just shitty.

The fact that you had to go back to Zach Wilson is brutal.

I mean, I understand it from a GM standpoint why they went back to him and didn't let Mike White play.

But, I mean, it's just we need something.

He needs a change of scenery. He's not getting along here.
What are you putting up on the screen? Jake is holding up a tweet from Rich Cimini that says, Salah on Zach Wilson, we haven't seen the last of him. Well, I mean, I assume that he has to, like, actually show up and pick up all his stuff before he leaves, right? They might just change the key card.
But, like, if he has to, like, get his, like, bag and clean out his locker, you'll see him one more time, right? I mean change the the key card but like like if he if he has to like get his like bag and clean out his locker you'll see him one more time right i mean the guy has a software problem not a hardware problem that's a great way of putting it i like that just see that was such an instagram ceo comment no but you're on your big gary v shit i love that you know what he needs a software and software and servers expert to step in. Who's also against tracking the jets.
That would be Elon Musk. Yeah.
You know what? Zach Wilson, meet me in Hoboken. Let's get a beer.
We'll talk things out. You figure it out.
Yeah. You figure it out.
Well, I've supported you for a long time. This.
Yeah. Well, really, you got to find a way to get a beer with him before this podcast gets posted, because I don't think he's going to get a beer with you after.
So you have like this is like a mission impossible. You have four hours to basically find Zach Wilson and get a beer with him before he hears you screaming.
You have a man. China, bro.
I actually think I think that if you cut this, if you cut this clip right now, Billy's saying of Billy saying like I want to have a beer with you you have a software problem not a hardware problem let me fix your viruses I'm pretty sure that that if he just sees that clip he's not going to listen the whole episode if you were Zach Wilson I would not consume any media for probably the next two weeks with just the off chance like I could be listening to like a true true crime to crime podcast or like, I don't know, reading like a cookbook online or something and catch a stray shot in there. Everybody is against you, but he might see it if you just, if you just tag him on social media, this killer hit his tracks so poorly.
He was like Zach Wilson on the jets. Yeah, exactly.
That's going to be on your NPR true crime podcast. You can't get away from it.
All right, Billy, last words, anything? Well, I mean, the defense is very good. 19 points with that many three and outs actually is amazing for how he's played.
Quinton Williams is incredible. We seeing we saw that last season too like they i mean they lose games and have 23 points but there used to be so many three and outs and like that's just such a good defense and it's it's it's like such a shame it's like it's an embarrassment of riches that this isn't going that well i agree i agree all right we're going to kick it to ourselves in studio.
Programming note, Monday we will have a new episode. It will be just me and PFT recapping week 16.
Tight show. We're going to try to keep it in an hour and a half.
It will be just the two of us. Wednesday is going to be the best of.
Then Friday, PFT and Hank and I will all be in Arizona and Jake for the Barstool Arizona Bowl, which should tune in December 30th, Ohio versus Wyoming, 430 on Barstool.tv. We have a bowl game.
So we will be in Arizona on Thursday. We'll tape a new show there.
And then we'll be back to regular scheduled program on January 2nd with Week 17 recap. So let's kick it to ourselves back in studio.
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Okay, week 16. There's no more dancing around at PFT.
We're at the end. We're at the end.
I don't like hearing 16 because that reminds me of a 16-game schedule, which reminds me of a 17-game schedule, which means that the season's almost over. Well, the season is almost over.
And we have big-time weather weekend. We also have sunday christmas day where the nfl is combating against uh the nba and remember i was thinking about it remember back in like may when they released the schedule and we were like holy fuck this schedule is going to be incredible they were going at the nba's throat yeah we got the we got we got the packers and the dolphins we got we got russell wilson probably first place in the AFC West going up against the Rams, Super Bowl champs.
We have the Bucs, Tom Brady going against Kyler Murray. That's not exactly how it worked out.
Packers-Dolphins still a good game, but we're getting to see Russell Wilson versus Baker Mayfield and Tom Brady versus Trace McSorley. Trace McSorley, I mean, that's appointment television right there.
You never know what's going to happen with Trace McSorley. He's going to – no telling if he's going to complete a pass to a cornerback or to a free safety.
Yeah, throw it on a dime. Trace McSorley.
So, week 16, a lot of playoff implications, a lot of teams that could clinch or be really fucked if they don't win their game uh let's do the records and then we'll get we'll get going with it so give it to us jake yeah this is quickly turning into two separate races there's some separation in the standing so first place pft with 32 and a half wins okay max 31 and a half big cat 30 and a half okay so that's the top half so we're all seems pretty clear that one of the three of you guys will get second place yep we're all one apart billy makes a charge billy's at 26 hanks at 24 and i'm at 22 so uh this is kind of there's a big gap in the middle billy's in the best spot right now he's got four and a half points ahead of him uh excuse me five and a half points ahead for second place and he's four ahead of me for last. So I'm concerned about the health of Jake, first and foremost.
Are you doing anything to change your picks up? What's your strategy coming down the stretch here? Because, like, let's be honest, Jake. I'm two and 14 in my last four weeks.
Jake, you're staring down the barrel of, like, a seven to ten month recovery after Tommy John. Yeah.
And a stomach. But he might be able to throw to throw like 95 after.
Right. Rookie of the year.
So if the playoffs started today. You said your stomach? Yeah, stomach.
Stomach would be an issue too. Hot dogs.
Yeah. So if the playoffs started today, Max and Jake would be bowling.
Jake might actually die from this. His body just might say, peace, I'm out.
I'm done. So are you doing anything different with your picks? Uh, maybe yourself.
No. If I were you, I'd just flip them all right now.
No. Okay.
Defeat us last words. Okay.
Two and 14. I mean, this is going to be Jake beating me by one game.
Also like how it ends. And then everyone should be fading me right now.
And then I'm so sorry. You've ever gotten in your entire life.
Like double grip on it. Oh, here's some bowling tips I studied over the last couple weeks you can use to bowl for seven hours.
He might hit you with a handshake and then give you a hug afterwards and be like, sorry. I'm sorry that you lost.
I've already mentally prepared that I'm doing the punishment. And reminder, if we have a tie at second place or last place, the tiebreaker will be going to the wild card weekend.
I think that you have to make a pick on every game. Every game, you have to have an over-under or underdog or favorite.
And we won't do like you have to pick everything. You just have to pick every game, and that will be how we break the tie.
Okay. So, this is since we're three weeks left in the regular season.
We are texting our picks to memes, so there's no funny business. It'll be very interesting when we get all the way around to Billy, and he's like, wait, I want this pick.
Well, I guess the Jets are playing tonight, so you can't do it. You can't do it, but let's get it going.
And Hank, vibe going into this weekend. I'll tell you right now.
I'll start with my favorite favorite. It's the Cincinnati Bengals.
Oh, okay. Interesting.
This should be a six and a half point line. Wait.
This is bad for you. Hank, this is...
I was actually going to give you some advice for the Hungry Dog this week. No.
No. What are you talking about? I listened last week.
What do you mean? No for two. What do you mean? No, no, no.
I'm winning the contest, which you are in danger of being last in. No, but I listen.
I listen. What'd you do? I'd listen to me say two.
Oh, okay. Well, let me give you some advice now, Hank.
You picked two games, they sucked. Because this feels like a double look-ahead weekend to me.
It feels like the Bengals and the Bills both are thinking about next week's game. I would take both the Bears and the Patriots this weekend.
Absolutely not. All right.
All right. So the only thing I didn't try, I won't.
I respect your I appreciate the input. I'm always open to advice from you guys.
I'm just not going to take that piece of it. So it's Bengals minus three and a half at the Patriots.
Are you nervous that this is like the three right now? Oh, it's three. it's three oh wow okay are you nervous at all that it's basically the and we're all terrible gamblers shout out Jay for putting that into government records for me we're all terrible gamblers here admittedly are you a little nervous that this is like rule number one not to do in gambling where you bet against the Bengals last week they beat the Bucs and now you're like I'm going with the Bengals this week no because this has absolutely nothing to do with the Bengals this is entirely the Patriots are a joke their season's over demoralized Matt Patricia's still the offensive coordinator I don't know why like they they're obviously getting rid of him after the end of the year right they have to so why not just fire him out like I don fire him now? I don't know what the purpose of him on the team is unless they're just like, whatever, the season's whatever.
Just finish out the year, we'll figure it out. What are they going to do with him, with that opening? They reassign Matt Patricia.
Anyone. And your best option is now Joe Judge.
Is that better? Can't be worse. It might be.
Did you see how the game ended last week? It literally cannot be worse. I wouldn't put that on Matt Patricia.
Matt Patricia was on the sidelines very clearly saying to Jacobi Myers, do not throw that ball. It also, I was thinking about it all.
It's coaching, though. And Mac Jones getting his face bounced like a basketball off the field.
It actually did him a favor because I didn't realize until I was prepping for this week that he was 13 for 31 for 112 yards last week. Like, almost that image helped bury the fact that he was so, so bad.
Right. Yeah.
So, good for him. He was pretty bad, and at least he tried to make a tackle.
He went low. Yeah.
His technique was right. He's just not a strong man.
So in your favor, Hank, the Bengals are on an 18-3 against a spread run in their last 21 games. They do have a lot of injuries, it feels like.
They're in that camp of let's get everyone healthy for the playoffs. Sam Hubbard also got hurt against the Bucs.
Hendrickson's got the wrist. Yeah, I don't like the fact that Hubbard and Hendrickson are both injured at the same time.
Right. Because usually I mix them up in the game.
It's like the whole Wes Welker, Julian Edelman thing. If one of them was out, that would be awesome because then I could accurately say, oh, that's Sam Hubbard with a sack.
Yeah, right. That's Hendrickson with a sack.
It would be interesting to see what their defense looks like with some banged up guys. I think DJ Reader is still the most important person on that defense.
He's awesome. Yeah, he is.
I'm also on the Bengals. Okay.
Minus three. All right.
Two mental Titans. Okay.
Anything else on this game, Hank? Are you going to be enjoying watching this game? No, and that's bad. That's unfortunate.
This is going to be awesome when the Patriots win Moneyline. Like Billy.
Wait, wait. Who's ahead in the standings? No, I'm saying I'm trying to catch you so when we're on the same, that's bad.
You just don't understand what I was saying. Yeah, he was saying that it's bad for him.
No, no. He thinks that my pick was cursing it.
No. No.
Now's a good time to say I'm on the Patriots. Oh! So this is huge for the competition.
Oh my god. This is humongous.
Jake catching up to Hank by betting on the Patriots. This could

be the whole competition because I'm gaining

a game on both of them or I'm dropping another.

Yeah, this is it. You change your pick.

This is perfect. So either your team wins or

you help yourself

in the competition. Oh, Hank, this is awesome.

I can live with that. Listen, Hank, I've

been riding the Bengals. But I'd rather

win the competition. I don't want

to fucking bowl. I've been riding the Bengals

for the combo. Let's go Patriots.

I don't know. Season's over.
You can't say the season's over and be like,

Thank you. been riding the bank but i'd rather win the competition i've been i don't want to fucking bowl i've been riding the bagels let's go patriots i don't know season's over you can't say the season's over be like it's like whatever season's fucking over patriots way only works when they're winning guys start quitting when they have to like go that they are still very much in the playoff and also they need these guys to play football too billy these guys are professionals on the patriots i think the patriots might win this outright that's what win this outright.
That's what I'm saying. It's a double look ahead.
It's more the injuries and the fact that the Bengals were pretty good. Yeah.
I think you're going to get your best Patriots effort. All right, Max.
Favorite, favorite. Broncos minus two and a half.
I think they're turning a corner. Against? Against the Rams.
The Rams on Sunday. Also a Nickelodeon game.
Yeah. So I think now is probably a good time to announce there will be an MVP awarded for this game.
I say it just goes to Russell Wilson no matter what. Although Baker would be fun too.
He could. Whoever loses.
Yeah, I don't know. Okay, all right.
Whoever loses. So we're agreed, though, it's going to be either Baker or Russell.
Yeah, it's got to be the loser. Because also, now that I'm thinking about it.
It's kind of funny if it was gay, too, if it was Matt Gay. Yeah.
I'm thinking about it. Russell Wilson would actually love to get the MVP.
Not if he lost, though. I think he still would.
Actually, remember he got slimed? He went to the awards. He'd be like, this is the most important award I've ever gotten.
I have kids that watch me me play football i think it would just be funny because i think you're right russell wilson even if he lost and won the nvp he would take it as like a huge honor right which i think would be funny for us okay all right so whoever loses whoever loses yeah baker or russell we're voting for them for nvp yes okay yes i like it all right yeah so russ is back he's cleared concussion protocol. We did have the report last week that was straight from his agent to Shefty's phone that he was wanted to play very badly, but was held out.
Yeah. Same.
Me too. Yep.
I wish I could have played in the NFL last weekend. I have a question for you, Big Cat.
Is Russell Wilson fat? Yeah. Oh, he's thick.
I think he's gotten fat. I don't know if he's fat.
I think he's fat. He's fatter this year than he was last year.
No, he's definitely, he's got some, he's like, he's now in the one bad weekend away. Yeah.
Or shave your face and then have to be on camera. I think he's very, I think he's gotten chubby.
And now the only reason I brought that up was because Skip Bayless has been going at Baker. He loves Baker, but he says that Baker is now fat.
little chunky as well baker might be fat too and then i was thinking wait a second these are two like low-key chubby yes quarterbacks yes i understand why baker might have gotten fat in charlotte because i don't know that much about charlotte it feels like a city that people say well the food here is great yeah and that's about all that you can do yeah i did russell wilson i haven't seen his picture with his shirt off in a while. I'm sure he'll get a whole new crop of them this offseason when he's on a yacht and throwing a football on a yacht, being like always training.
But he's one of those guys that has like fat abs. You know what I mean? There's some definition, but you basically look at him and say, if you just exhale, you just exhale you're fat yeah yeah he's kind of like a quarterback that um if you're making him in Madden you know like six to 220 pounds and then you just squish him a little bit yep like a gummy bear yep yep absolutely all right so who's your favorite favorite my favorite favorite this week I'm going Steelers yeah I love the Steelers so it's it's Franco Harris minus two and a half a half against the Raiders.
Yeah, it's a night game. Franco Harris just passed away.
They were going to be honoring him in the Ring of Honor this weekend. I'm calling my shot.
This is going to be a double renegade game. Yeah.
I think the Steelers are going to play renegade twice. So he was supposed to get his number retired.
It was against the Raiders, which was the Immaculate Reception. I didn't realize, and I threw this stat at PFT yesterday.
He didn't realize either. It was, wow, Franco Harris in the Immaculate Reception was the first touchdown the Pittsburgh Steelers ever scored in a playoff game.
It was also their first win in a playoff game. Isn't that crazy? Yeah.
In the history of their franchises, they went. So in 1947, they had lost 21-0 to the Eagles, and they had never made the playoffs otherwise.
1972, that game, they're down 7-6. That was the first ever playoff Pittsburgh Steelers touchdown, and it then started four Super Bowls in the 70s.
It's crazy because you think of the Steelers as always being good, and I never really dawned on me that there was a long stretch where they were garbage. Remember we talked about the Philadelphia Steegals when they combined the Steelers and the Eagles back in World War II? That was the Steelers' first winning season was at that point.
But, yeah, it never occurred to me that the Steelers weren't always good throughout the 60s and 70s. Right.
It was not only the first win, but the first touchdown ever scored in playoffs. Yeah.

Kind of a cool one to have.

It was a very memorable one to start out.

So, yeah, I think like Steelers, in the first place, I think the Steelers have the best

night uniforms in the NFL.

It just, they're a different team when it's nighttime.

When it's nighttime, when it's in Pittsburgh, when it's Franco Harris Day, and when they're

blasting Renegade, TJ Watt might have four sacks.

Pro Bowler.

Four sacks.

He might double his season total.

Yeah, Pro Bowler.

I'm sorry. Pittsburgh when it's Franco Harris day and when they're blasting Renegade, TJ Watt might have four sacks.
Pro bowler. Four sacks.
He might double his season total. Yeah, pro bowler TJ Watt.
And have four more sacks tonight. The only teams that didn't get a pro bowler were the Jacksonville Jaguars and the Chicago Bears.
That hurt a little, but whatever. Who made it from the Texans? Top of my head.
They might have had a special teamer. Laramie Tunsil.
Ah, that makesFT and I are both on the Steelers that's also it's not the best game to have Christmas Eve but it's definitely the color matchup history behind it it just feels like it should be a Christmas Eve game. Good uniforms behind it.
Like a great history, everything

behind it. John Madden would love the fact

that this game was on Christmas Eve. And both

teams do technically,

both fan bases can still technically be

playing the playoff simulator. Yep.

Neither of them are technically eliminated.

We did write the Steelers off a couple weeks ago. Mathematically

they're not. No, neither are the Raiders.

But the Steelers,

they are. Well, yeah, both teams are.
You're done. But they're not, so maybe they can.
Yeah. You never know.
Okay, Billy, you have the Patriots? Yes. Or no, sorry, the Bengals.
The Bengals? Yeah, Bengals, Bengals. Jake, your favorite favorite? I'm on the Bills minus eight and a half against the Bears.
This team is due for a whopping they've been they've been winning close close-ish games but they're due to be that bills team that wins like 31 to 3 what about your com uh the the fact that um it could be a look ahead game though with the bills they've got it could be they've got their most important game of the season next week what about also jake bear weather it's supposed to be very cold in chicago do you think the Bills are scared of that? Yeah, they've never had to play in bear weather. Josh Allen said last week he wished it was colder.
What are you talking about? Do the Bills play in bear weather? I don't think so. No, they don't.
You're right. Okay, I didn't account for that.
I'm sorry. So I'm just throwing that out there.
It's always tough to come to Chicago in December and play in bear weather. So I I don't know if the Bills will be able to handle that.
It is. Also, Justin Fields, isn't he a great covering quarterback? He has covered a lot of spreads.
It feels like there's a lot of backdoor fourth quarter, meaningless touchdowns. And the Bills, by the way, are 7-0 to the under on road games this year.
So if you're thinking about taking this over, it's going to be cold. And maybe, I don't know, it's going to be a fun game.
Josh Allen and Justin Fields. We should maybe put them both in the Mount Rushmore.
Well, I feel like Justin Fields, his running ability reminds me a lot of Josh Allen. Yeah.
Except probably a little bit quicker than Josh. He is faster and twitchier.
Yeah, he's twitchier, but this is like everybody's saying like. Take a lot of Josh Allen.
Yeah. Except probably a little bit quicker than Josh.
He is faster and like twitchier. Yeah, he's twitchier, but this is like everybody's saying like...
They don't take a lot of contact. They do.
Yeah, I'm concerned about that. But everyone's saying like he should look like maybe his ceiling is Josh Allen.
They're two completely different quarterbacks. Correct.
There's like some similarities in terms of their physical stature and build. But I think that let's pump the brakes a little bit on Justin Fields, Josh Allen.
I agree. I put up a poll yesterday to see who people would rather have, Justin Fields, Trevor Lawrence.
It's about 40-60 Fields to Lawrence, which is a lot closer than I thought it would be. I thought I was out there on the island of my own.
But, yeah, I guess a lot of people like Trevor, which I think he's a great quarterback. I think he's fine.
I don't know. There's something about Justin.
He's fun to watch. He's very fun to watch.
Also, Justin Fields, I believe, leads the league. He's been sacked 46 times, which is leading the league, so not really safe in the pocket either, Billy.
It's not safe anywhere for him. He should probably just retire.
They should just bench him. I know that I said that that was the lamest thing a month ago.
Now that we're three weeks left in the season, if they said we're not playing just fields, I'd be like, okay, because I want the second pick and I also don't want anything bad to happen to him. Yeah.
I've seen enough. He's a win now quarterback.
What do you mean? Like, I know the bears are rebuilding, but if you had a win now team,, I think that would be the perfect spot for him. He's, yeah.
No, I agree with Billy. In development.
If the Bears were fucking awesome, then Justin Fields would be better. Yeah, I mean, he's going to be the franchise quarterback.
Right, right. If you have a team that's trying to, he's going to say if you have a team that's trying to win, you want a quarterback that's good.
Yeah. If you're in a situation where it's like.
Yeah, probably. Yeah, that's actually a good point.
I just hope he makes it through the rebuilding period. No, see, don't do that.
Like, that's... No, I'm just saying, I mean, has he not had injury? Not, nothing significant.
Right, but those add up. Okay.
I mean, this is my take. This is my take years, like, weeks ago, and then he got hurt.
No, he... What Billy's getting at is that if Justin Fields was on an awesome team, then it would be cool to watch him play on a good team and the team would be good.
Got it. But also, it's his fault for having an injury when he's been sacked 46 times, which has nothing to do with running.
Right. Exactly.
So he should have a better offensive line. I agree with that.
We agree there. He was on the Jets.

I think the Jets record would be better, and he'd have amazing stats.

I would say so.

And he'd be healthy.

Yeah, I mean, he's significantly better quarterback.

Yes, that's what I'm saying.

You could honestly have a monkey. Wait, you know the Jets win now?

The Jets are winning now.

Okay, all right.

You could have a monkey throw a dart at a dartboard,

and whatever quarterback it landed on would be a better fit for the Jets

than what you've had this season.

Yes.

That's a fact.

It's just true.

I'm sorry.

Name one quarterback that wouldn't be a better fit for the Jets right now.

Starter.

Tracing Sorley would probably be a better fit for the Jets.

Billy would have to admit that.

Yeah, he would have to admit that.

I got you there.

That's really the only one that maybe could be debatable.

Okay. I agree, though, Billy.
I wish the there. That's really the only one that maybe could be debatable.
Okay.

I agree, though, Billy.

I wish the Bears had a better offensive line.

Exactly.

And they will have more talent around them coming up this year, next year.

That's why I want the second pick to get more talent.

Hank, favorite underdog.

My favorite underdog is the Seattle Seahawks plus 10 against the Kansas City Chiefs. Chiefs have had two games in a row they probably should have lost.
Well, the Chiefs don't cover big spreads. No, and they haven't looked good.
So I think 10 points is a lot. I think the Seahawks are a good, feisty team.
They did. There's a lot of room there with 10 points.
Pro Bowler Geno Smith. Well, they did cover last weekend, but still that was overtime.
They went to overtime versus the Texans. They didn't cover.
Oh, they covered for your stupid parlay.

Sorry, not stupid.

That wins five out of seven weeks, and you haven't hit the Hungry Dog once.

They also dominated that game.

That went to overtime?

Yeah.

Interesting. From a stats perspective, yeah.

They had two fluky fumbles that made the score very close,

but they dominated that game.

I'm a scoreboard guy.

Yeah, we know.

Stats are for losers.

You took the Bengals. Points matter to Hank.
Off of the Bucs. Points matter in this league.
Yeah. Hank, also Chiefs-a-holic, his absence is looming large.
He's kind of the main focus of this game. And I came across one of his tweets yesterday.
If the Chiefs win the Super Bowl, Chiefs-a-holic is going to win $100,000. Whoa.
He's got futures on the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl. That could solve a lot of his problems right there.
His bail is $200,000. I was going to say, I also don't think that if you rob a bank you can't just be like, hey, I'll pay it back and we're good.
Yeah, it should be. Just give him the ticket.
I'll make you whole and we'll just not do this whole jail thing. Let's move on.
You don't want to get involved in lawyers. I don't want to get involved in lawyers.
Let's just do a handshake. Sorry to the bank of Bixby.
I think it solved none of his problems. He would just have to use that for lawyers that would not get him out of jail.
He should have to promise to never use a bank again. He just has to keep all his cash on him at all times.
Under his mattress. If he wins $100,000, he can get bail, though, right?

No, it's $200,000.

Yeah, but you can get a bail bond, which is like 10%, right?

20%.

Boom.

That gets him out of jail right there.

But he's still...

Chiefs might have a chip on their shoulder for Chiefs to haul it.

I don't think they give bail bonds for those types of charges.

They should.

Yeah.

Okay.

Seahawks.

Seahawks.

Dogs should get him out.

Seahawks.

Dogs should get him out.

Dogs should get Chiefs out.

Thank you. They should.
Yeah. Okay.
Seahawks. Seahawks.
Dog should get him out.

Seahawks.

Dog should get him out. Dog should get Chiefs.

He wouldn't run on Dog.

He wouldn't dare run on Dog.

A wolf versus Dog?

That's an epic matchup.

That dog wins that all the time.

Max, underdog.

It's the only play.

Oh.

It's the only play.

Okay.

I have a question for you, Max.

So, Max, his play is the Eagles plus four and a half, is it right against the Cowboys six six Gardner Minshew is officially starting uh are the Eagles maybe tanking this game no no that's bullshit no this is their Super Bowl are you saying the win beat those three times are you saying beat a team three times okay just follow me follow along right The Eagles, the Cowboys losing the Jaguars change everything because the Eagles just have to win one of their last two games. They play the Saints and the Giants.
They want to beat the Saints very bad because they have their draft pick. They probably are going to see the Cowboys again in the playoffs.
Is there a part of them that is like, let's not show them anything. Let's have Gardner Minshew play.
Let's have a different offense. And we're probably going to lose this game.
Because I also saw their injury report was like, they held like everyone out who wasn't even injured. Are they taking the game? That's my only question.
They don't need to win this game. Dallas.
I think they do want to win this game. No, they don't need to.
Badly. No, I think very badly they want to win this game because, okay, they've got Minshew coming in.
You're right. They're not going to show their normal offense to the Cowboys, so they really have nothing to lose by getting weird with the playbook with Minshew in there.
I think that if they win this game, this is like their season is done. The Eagles can wait until the playoffs if they win this game.
They can get super rested going into the second week of the playoffs. All they have to do, they secure home field when they win this.
They don't care what happens next week or the week after. That's when they tank those games.
But they want to win this one. No, if they wanted to win this game, Jalen Hurts would be playing.
Because he's not that hurt. Would you not agree with that, Max? If they wanted to win this game very badly, if this was their Super Bowl, Jalen Hurts would be playing.
Correct. If this was the Super Bowl, Jalen Hurts would be playing 100%.
I don't think it's possible for him to play this weekend. I think he's got a sprained shoulder, so he needs at least one week to heal everything and make it fine.
I think Minshew might be the best backup quarterback in the NFL. Put him in there, you win this game, and then you don't give a shit what happens next week or the week after.
You've got the 1C locked down the playoffs. And Minshew's a good quarterback, and everyone else on the team is still there.
I agree. I'm just asking.
I don't think it's physically possible for Jalen Hurd. I think he's actually too hurt to play this weekend.
I mean, he played the entire fourth quarter. Yeah.
I don't think that's true. You get adrenaline, and then you get swelling that happens after the game's over.
Right, but the way they were talking about it all week, it was like if this was a real game. It was wishy-washy.
Yeah, and if this was a real game, they were playing. Hurt was still like, I'm preparing to play.
I think it's very precautionary that he's out of this game. I have no problem with him not playing.
I would actually say if the Jaguars hadn't beaten the Cowboys, I think he'd be playing in this game. Because then they would absolutely need this game.
I'm also on the Eagles. Okay.
I'm probably going to bet the Eagles. I'm just worried that they might be like, we don't care at all about them.
Well, we've got to talk about Leach, too. Yeah, I know.
The Leach. The Leach factor is massive.
Although it makes me a little nervous that Gardner Mitchell missed the whole day of practice. No, no, no, no.
That's fine. I'm a big believer in the no film theory.
And if they show up, new quarterback, and they're putting in new stuff, defensive coordinators have not seen it on tape. New film theory you see with Mike White when he first comes in.
I'm a big no film theory. Right.
Garter's played before, though. There's enough body of evidence out there in Garter Minshew to know what he is able and not able to do.
Right, but not this. And the Eagles offense is built for Jalen Hurts.
I'm just saying, if they needed this game, if they wanted to win this game very, very badly, I think Jalen Hurts would be playing. It makes me just a little bit nervous.
I think they're going to come out there and I think they're going to beat the shit out of the Cowboys. I think the Cowboys are frauds.
Yeah. Houston, the Houston game.
Yeah, they got to get healthy. I don't know.
I mean, I tend to agree with you just because Mike McCarthy is like, we've done this thought exercise of fat Mike McCarthy trying to make a decision in a playoff game. So are you underdog? Are you doing Eagles as well? No, I'm actually going to go Patriots underdog.
So I'm on the Patriots as well. Okay.
We talked about that game. Okay.
It seems like after what happened last week to end that game, I don't think that any team in the history Of the NFL Will have a harder week Of practice Than the Patriots Have had this week I think Belichick Just took all his frustration Out on the team this week And just spending hours And hours At the facility He's being a real dick To them in film So he probably made them Watch that last play 50 times this week Yeah And just embarrassed The shit out of them I them. I liked the Patriots a lot this weekend.
Hank, people were upset that you missed the golden opportunity to say we're on to Cincinnati right after the Raiders loss. Yeah, and the Miracle Miami was the start of the championship DVD, not the end of the season.
So that was another error I would like to clear up. I mean, whatever.
People might say you don't know ball, but I know you know ball.

Just follow the hungry dog.

Just interesting that Hank's going against the Patriots this weekend.

You called it my stupid parlay.

I can't come back to the hungry dog.

It's fair.

Who's going to be in the hungry dog?

Doesn't matter.

He's going to lose anyway.

All right.

My underdog is going to be the Green Bay Packers plus four.

I... Against the Dolphins.
Against the Dolphins. The Dolphins actually have, do you know the Dolphins have in the last two years the best home field advantage in the NFL? Kind of crazy.
I did not know that. Well, they've got the sideline that draws more heat for the opponents.
It's actually the last six years I misspoke. 35-19 straight up, 33-18-3 against the spread, which is pretty nuts.
They're actually going to be throwing sunscreen at the Packers when they're in the red zone. But it's not going to be warm.
It's going to be in the 50s. Yeah, it's going to be in the 50s.
Just balls of cocaine. Yeah.
I just – my spidey sense is saying the Packers are going to make this stretch run interesting, and I'm very nervous of how this is going to go. So it's partially an emotional hedge.
This is get right. This is get right weekend for the Miami Dolphins.
I'm confident in them. Okay.
Billy. Eagles.
Eagles. You're also on the Eagles.
I'm with the Patriots. Patriots.
All right. So those are the underdogs.
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A lot of weather. A lot of low totals this week.
Yeah, so I'm going lowest of the low. Yeah.
Browns. Oh, this is a true.
Brown Saints, 32. This is a true.
Weather doesn't matter. Weather's not real game.
Brown Saints, 32. The Sean Watson unders have been the easiest bet since he started.
Three easy unders. He's due for an over.
And weather doesn't matter. I thought about this one, but I thought about doing the other thing, just trying the under.
How exhilarating would that be? To try an under in like the 20s it's it's the lowest total since 2008 uh Bengals versus Browns in that game Ryan Fitzpatrick was five for nine for 55 yards and Ken Dorsey was 10 for 17 for 64 yards 14 nothing final this is a there's supposed to be 30 mile an hour winds, one to three inches of snow, gusts possibly up to 60 miles an hour. This is a true test.
Hank is going just mono-y mono versus the weather. We're going to get some field goals.
I can already see it. Cade York.
Yeah, Cade York. By the way, his brother is a long snapper for Wyoming in the Arizona ball.
Oh, wow. We're going to get some of these weird field goals.
That's a fun-ass fact. Where Cade York steps up and he hits it, and it's going to go out of bounds to the sideline.
They might not even try field goals. Like a completely horizontal field goal.
You know what? I might try to do an over one-and-a-half field goal bet on this game just to see if we can get it. This is also the game that will really show us how big of a fucking shithead dennis allen is because if if all the things i just said are true and we have 30 mile an hour winds gusts up to 60 miles an hour one to three inches of snow all these things if you don't fucking play tasem hill the majority of this game you are the biggest shithead of all time.
So on that note, I just texted with our good friend Jerry O'Connell because we are in the fancy playoffs. We're going up against C.J.
McCollum this weekend. I just said, Jerry, where are we at? What's going on with the roster this weekend? He said, good.
Don't want to get ahead of ourselves, but good. I did a lot of tinkering and tankering last night i saw tasem hill in a dream two nights ago oh so we're riding with tasem yeah you got to go with a vision when you get one so jerry had a vision i agree this does feel like a tasem hill game it feels like and miles garrett might not play by the way like if he doesn't play he's sick right now if he doesn't doesn't play, I could see an over happening.
Yeah, I mean Taysom Hill is built for a game like this.

You're basically saying there's so much wind and the weather is so bad

that a running quarterback can bash his brains through everyone else.

Dennis Allen, you are a shithead shithead.

You know, like every comic's favorite comic? Yeah. You're every shithead's favorite shithead if you don't use Taysom Hill in this game.
Yeah. No, his brain is made out of shit if he doesn't because if you imagine yourself, let's say Miles Garrett does play.
Miles Garrett's playing and he's looking at Andy Dalton the entire game like Sylvester the Cat looks at Tweety Bird. He's turning into a turkey in front of him.
He's licking his chops. Myles Garrett is going to injure Andy.
That actually might happen. That would be likely that Myles Garrett actually hurts Andy Dalton, knocks him out of the game, and now he's forced to play Taysom Hill for the rest of the game despite being a shithead.
Hank, I want to say I'm proud of you. Thank you.
I'm proud of you. This is a true test.
You know I love the personal revenge totals and just like a challenge. This is – I'm rooting for you hard.
Very hard. Appreciate that.
All right. Go ahead, Max.
Your favorite over. Dolphins, Packers.
That is also mine. 49 and a half.
49 and a half is also mine. Okay.
I just basically, my entire thought process there was where the weather, what? Oh. Oh, never mind, never mind, never mind, never mind.
I was like, where's the weather going to be not as terrible as everywhere else? What was that? Was that how he thought he had honor? I thought the exact same thing. Yeah, same thing.
Least impacted game. Yeah, you could go a dome.

I don't really love the Giants-Vikings game.

But yeah, fuck it.

Let's just find a game that there probably won't be that bad of weather.

Yep.

On that note, I did Lions at Panthers.

It's going to be cold in Charlotte.

Not super cold.

43 and a half.

Yep.

Jared Goff has never won a cold game.

I know.

I know. And I think this is the week that he does it i think jared slowly become like a detroit guy i think now he's fully he's morphed into being a detroiter or whatever they call themselves you know the line is eight mile road the lines have covered seven straight games and i i misspoke when i said uh the stat about his overall record so i looked it back up it's under mcVay and Campbell.
Jared Goff is 55-38-2 against the spread. It's pretty damn good.
Pretty good. And then 0-7 with Jim Fossil or Jeff Fisher.
Jared Goff has made America money. Yes.
We appreciate that, Jared. But yeah, I think it's not going to be that cold.
It's not that cold. Yeah.
I think this is like a good test for Jared to see like, okay, how much Detroit has really gotten into your blood system over the last couple years. Can you win a 32-degree game? Yes, I like that.
Okay, Billy, I have the Dolphins and the Packers, so I'm doubling up on that game. I have the Niners-Commanders over 38.
PFT, I have a question for you. Over 38 in that game.
It feels like Carson Wentz might play at some point. Okay, I saw the bottom line ticker where Ron Rivera is saying, we're not going to go back to Carson yet.
Am I fucking insane? Why would you go back to Carson fucking Wentz? We've got Taylor Heineke. He's not bad.
Taylor Heineke's been playing pretty good overall. Why is it even a question that we're going back to Carson Wentz? Whose idea was that? Is Ron Rivera actually thinking about doing that? Well, I think journalists ask him that.
And I also think if you look at the Sunday night game and you guys got screwed, NFL rigged, Taylor Heineke did have a couple Carson Wentz turnovers. It's like maybe we could just put Carson in.
He doesn't do that. No, no.
But he will. No, yeah, he absolutely will.
Taylor Heineke has some just trying to make a play plays. Yeah.
Carson Wentz has some, oh, fuck, I've got anxiety. I'm going to fumble the ball backwards plays.
I also have a little bone to pick with Taylor Heineke. He is our guy.
We rep him. I don't want to see Carson Wentz ever again on a football field.
On my television. Yeah.
Did you know, so everyone knows that Taylor Heineke, after he beats a team, he buys a pair of Jordans in that team's color. Did you know that Taylor Heineke, if he wins a game and he plays 60% of the snaps, he gets $125,000? Yeah.
He should buy way more shoes than that. No, it's a nice little commemorative trophy.
But $125,000 and only one pair of shoes? I'd buy a lot of shoes. Taylor, his contract is very favorable towards what's happened to him this year.
And I'm rooting for him. I want him to get paid.
I want him to stick around for a while. I like Taylor Heineke.
You're right. Thank you for bringing up NFL Rigged.
We should have won that game based on expected points, which is the metric that I'm choosing to track this week. You know how they have that in FIFA like expected goals? Yeah, yeah.
It's the most made-up thing of all time. But on expected points, the Commanders win that game like 90% of the time against the Giants last week.
We had some unfortunate turnovers. We should, by the way, we should create a Twitter account.

Billy, create a Twitter account, PMT expected points,

and we'll just tweet fake stats after every game.

Based off vibes from the game.

Actually, just make it PMT analytics, and then we all have access.

Yeah, because that would be very good if, you know,

when the Cowboys beat the Colts like 50 to 21,

if we just tweeted expected points, Colts 35, Cowboys 14, and just and just get people very upset expected points is my favorite stat in soccer by far and it needs to come to the nfl uh i'm concerned about the kyle shanahan revenge game factor in this because it feels like it feels like the commanders uh have lost to the sons of former head coaches of their franchise more than any other team.

So you've got Kyle Shanahan that's beaten the Commanders several times.

You've got Scott Turner, did it for a while in Carolina.

You've got Brian Schottenheimer, and then Deuce Gruden, kind of. So in terms of our former coaches' sons, we have a very bad track record.

I also just nerd stat for you, and this is more credit to us

because we said that Christian McCaffrey and Kyle Shanahan's offense

would be fucking awesome.

I don't know. record I also just nerd staff for you and this is more credit to us because we said that Christian McCaffrey in Kyle Shannon's offense would be fucking awesome weeks one through nine the Niners without McCaffrey were ninth in DVOA pass 25th and run since he's come there their first DVOA and pass eighth in run so he's just made them considerably better yeah so credit to us we were the ones who actually said that would be a cool trade.
So just pat ourselves on the back. Yeah, we nailed that one.
Speaking of vibes, that Commander's Pro Bowl video was amazing. It was very cool.
It was awesome. Trestway, legend.
Yeah, very cool. Ron Rivera.
See, Ron Rivera is a guy that, like, he's a good human being. Sometimes he frustrates me as a head coach.
But he's a good guy, so it's very hard for me to say anything negative about yeah yeah except if he does start carson wentz fuck him yeah i'm out on ron see a bitch see a bitch you're not that good of a guy yeah you're not that guy pal nope sorry uh my my reasoning on this is i just think that the 49ers put up 38 points on the commanders you're gonna put it up yeah up? We're just trying to talk Taylor Heineke up,

and Billy's like, yeah, final score,

Niners 38, Commanders 2.

What's worse, getting 38 put on you or getting 38 hung on you?

I'd say hung.

If they hung 38 on the commanders,

that'd be bad.

Yeah, they're going to put 38 on the commanders,

and then Heineke's going to put up a couple,

so even if they don't, it's still going over 30. Okay, so the 49ers are going to put up 38 on the Commanders, and Heineke's going to hang 14 on the 49ers.
Exactly. Okay, got it.
I'll take that. That actually translates in my expected points metrics to Commanders 41, 49ers 34.
So we win that on expected points. Nice.
Yeah, losing Debo's only just getting Kittle the ball more also shout out George Kittle Pro Bowl Jake so I'm on the Green Bay Miami game at over 49.5 and if I decide while I'm home this weekend I want to go to the game I can use theTime app, $175 to get in at Hard Rock Stadium.

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Terms apply. Are you going to go to the game? I don't have plans to.
My dad's birthday is actually on Christmas then. We don't celebrate Christmas.
Okay. So you should go.
Maybe I'll go with him. Yeah.
We'll see. That's awesome.
If you're a Jewish person and your birthday is on Christmas, you get to celebrate anyways. Yeah.
You should go with him. Bring him.
Yeah. I'll talk to him.
See if he's interested. Throw some shit at the Packers.
I will buy you anything you want to throw at them.

Yeah, you will.

Pipe bomb?

No problem.

All right.

Unders.

Yeah, unders.

My under is the Bucs Cardinals.

I'm also on the Bucs Cardinals.

Fuck you, Billy.

40 and a half.

I'm rooting for that over.

Yeah, Trace McSorley versus Tom Brady.

Big time close your eyes game. Oh, that game's going to suck.
I don't really want to watch that game. This is a worst case scenario.
No, but we're going to end up watching it. You know why? Because it's football.
Because it's Trace McSorley. Trace McSorley sucks.
He'll be playing in the XFL in no time. Tom Brady also sucks.
The bugs are terrible. Disrespectful of the boy.
Wow, you really flipped. That Bucs-Bengals game broke you.
Last week broke me. Yeah, broke me.
Both the 4 o'clock games, I have not really recovered from either one of them. Your entire thought process going into this weekend is just based off of what happened at the 4 o'clock games.
His worldview has been shattered. And weather isn't real.
Your worldview has been shattered because you've operated your entire life knowing that the Patriots are the best coached team in the NFL that doesn't make dumb mistakes and that Tom Brady is Mr. Second Half.
And then, wow, your paradigm just got flipped upside down. The whole world.
Prediction. It's going to be $6, $7.
Trace McSoy is going to have a late game touchdown. You don't know ball if you're saying 6-7.
6-7 Bucs. 6-7 Bucs.
Are the Bucs winning or losing in this? No, they're going to win. Are they down? They're down by one.
6-7. Right.
Who is 6? The Bucs. So it's 7-6.
No, it's seven, six serving seven. Seven, six Cardinals.
Listen to me. Okay.
No, it is seven, six. Yeah.
Bucs are winning. Wait.
Cardinals score. No, that's not what you.
All right. All right.
Let Bill and Cook. Okay.
Okay. So what's the score now? Cardinals score.
It is. How? It is.
Safety? They get seven points. They go for two?? Oh, they get seven.
So now it's $7.13. No, now it's $13.7.
Cardinals with a minute 20. Why didn't they go for two? Yeah.
Trying to go by seven. Did they fail? They failed.
Okay, so then it's 12. Okay.
I know, but I know, but I want to say is Tom Brady's going to win in a last second drive And beat Trace McSorley But we're all gonna think Trace McSorley's about to beat Tom Brady And we're all gonna tune into the game So it's gonna be 14-13 Right I'll bet you $100 What you just said does not happen How about like $55 Billy I will give you I will give you $10,000 If that's what happens in this game. Exactly.
For Christmas. Exact points.
Exact points. Yeah.
Wait, you have to decide right now. Do they go for the two and not get it? I'm going to go...
Okay, actually, real quick. It's going to be 17...
What? Wait, no, you just changed it. It's going to be 17...
It deals off. $10,000 on the table.
I was about to match.

Okay, I'll do the $10,000 bet.

All right.

Whatever you think it is.

I'm matching.

I'll give you $20,000, but exactly this has to happen.

The Bucs have to be winning 7-6 in the fourth quarter.

The Cardinals drive, score, don't get the two-point conversion.

Don't get the two-point conversion.

It is now 12-7.

Tom Brady goes, drives, scores. They win 14-12.
Do they kick the extra point if time's expired? Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter.
You decide the final score. Yeah, they would go for two.
No, they're not. You could go up three.
So 13 or 14. Or 15.
It depends if they kick the extra point. Why would they go for two if it's 13-12? Why would you not go for two? One time expires.
Oh, it's literally a last second. Yeah, it's last second.
What if there's two seconds left? It depends if they let them kick the extra point. There's two seconds left.
There's time on the clock. You have to kick the extra point.
You have to. Okay, so then 14.
14, 12. You don't have to any? The Raiders just didn't.
Oh, no, that was overtime. No, it wasn't.
They were trying to go to overtime. You're right.
I think they changed the rule recently. You're right.
They don't. They don't make you have to go out.
I want you to make you have to go out. They brought the Packers back out for the replacement refs game.
Remember that? Yeah, they used to make you have to kick you. That's right.
They did change it because it screwed gambling up. Yeah.
That happened a couple weeks ago. I want the option.
See, I know ball. No, no option.
I want the option of 13 or 14, depending on if they kick the extra point. It's the Christmas spirit.
They would go for two. Yeah, you're an idiot for not saying.
Billy, because... Is it good to be up one, two, or three? Who are you saying is going to go for two? It's the dumbest part of the podcast you've ever had.
The team that just scored at the end of the game. And it should be the most simple part too.

Billy, it's... 13-12, dude.

You got to go for two.

Because it's the Christmas spirit,

I'll let you have 14 or 15.

Right.

But not 13.

Not 13.

They got to make something.

Well, what happens

if it ends up being 13?

You lose.

I win.

You do not win.

No, wait.

I said 14 or 15. Yeah.
So you can have 14 or 15. Or if you want, you can have 12 or 13.
I win. You do not win.
No, wait. I said 14 or 15.

Right.

So you can have 14 or 15.

Or if you want, you can have 12 or 13.

Your choice.

I'll give you either one of those two.

And I will match.

Okay.

I'm going to go 14.

14 or 15?

Or 15.

Okay.

14 or 15.

To 12.

Bucs beat the Cardinals.

Yes.

For $20,000.

Yes.

Christmas cash.

But it also has to happen exactly that way. Yes.
Like it can't be that the Bucs are winning 14-0 all game and then the Cardinals come back and score a couple touchdowns. Okay, yeah.
It has to be exactly that way. Deal.
All right. That was a big waste of time.
Just cut all that. Okay.
Where are we? I don't know. Max.
I think me, under? That was even Billy's pick. No, it was Billy's pick, too.
Oh, okay. He doubled up with Hank.
Gotcha, gotcha. Yeah, that's cute.
I am Lions-Panthers under whatever that number is. 44 and a half? Yep.
Yeah. 43 and a half.
43 and a half. Lions defense is turning the corner.
That's a big one. It is a big one, Max.

I think you're going against your guy Jared, huh?

You don't think you can score in the cold?

No, I just think it's going to be a nice dogfight.

Dogfight of a win.

Jared's going to pull it out at the end,

but it'll be a little less scoring than usual.

Okay.

PFT?

Under? My under, I'm going Giants-Vikings under. It's a big under.
It was at 48? Yeah. 48 and a half? The Giants...
48. 48, yeah.
I think that Kirk's been improving against the Blitz, and that's all that the Giants do. He's still worse against the Blitz than he is when you don't Blitz him, but the Giants, they've gotten a little bit of a luxury that's emerged the last few weeks, which is Kayvon Thibodeau is a fucking monster.
So they might not even have to blitz as much as they have in the past, but if they get pressure on Kirk, I think they can keep it. They've got to be tired, too.
The Vikings just have to be tired from all that running on offense in the second half. It's true.
It's a lot of running. We should have Dalvin Cook in our Mount Rushmore

because the Giants' defense gives up big explosive runs.

So we should definitely include him.

Okay, my under.

This game stinks.

Titans-Texans, 36.

Ryan Tannehill is very likely out for the season.

It is Malik Willis time.

Malik Willis has started two games. His combined stats in those two games is 11 for 26 for 133 yards and one interception.
That's two games worth of stats. I'm not going to judge him forever based on this season, but I can say right now he sucks.
Yeah, he's bad. He sucks right now.
Now, Titans fans, I think we do this every year. I'd like to acknowledge the Titans as being the most injured team in the NFL this year.
Yes. So you have that.
You're probably maybe going to win the division. And you're doing it with like half of a roster.
So congratulations. That's something to hang your hat on.
Derrick Henry, again, against the Texans, he averages like 200 yards a game. Kills him.
So let's just appreciate Derrick Henry this week. Yes.
It's going to be a Derrick Henry game. It's the first four-game losing streak for Mike Vrabel as a head coach.
The Texans might be a live dog, Hank. I'm just going to say that.
They might be. It's Malik Willis.
Texans, I don't think they have Pierce, right? No. They've got the two-headed monster of Driscoll and Mills.
And Nicholas is good. And Mills.
You said that on Sunday, and why? Did you hear 11 for 26, 133 yards in an interception? That's two games combined. Yeah, but remember him coming out of high school? Yeah, good point.
He looked good in the preseason, too. He might end up being good, but he's not good right now.

Let's remember the preseason, though.

That's true.

He flashed.

He's got the tools.

Yeah.

All right.

Yeah, this game is ugly.

No, I'm thinking Seahawks-Eagles.

Okay.

Birds.

Seahawks plus 10.

Bird alert.

Wow.

That's spicy.

That's real.

0.0% chance you win. Okay.
I love that. I love that.
Clip that. Okay.
All right. Go ahead, Billy.
Your favorite under. 49ers.
Oh, yeah, 49ers. No.
Cardinals. Cardinals, yeah.
I'm with you, Big Cat. Houston, Tennessee, under 36.
Okay. So that's week 16.
Yeah. All right.
Games we didn't talk about. Monday Night Football, that's Chargers-Colts, which I'm very – I think I might have to take the Colts just because the Chargers have to find a way to screw themselves over.
Doesn't it feel like the perfect time? Now would be the right time for the Chargers to blow it for their fan base, yes. We have Falcons-Ravens, which is going to suck.
I think Tyler Huntley might not play, so we might be back to Anthony Brown. Oh, really? Sammy Watkins signed with the Ravens.
Oh, God. He's in a cult.
That's cool. Remember that? Yeah.
Yeah, he's a big-time cult guy. Desmond Ritter versus possibly Anthony Brown.
That's a terrible, terrible game. I actually respect the hell out of the Baltimore Ravens for just never getting any good wide receivers.

Yeah.

For just never having them.

It's like they know that that's not part of their culture in Baltimore

to have a passing attack.

So they've remained committed to having by far the worst receiving core

in the league for probably the last 12 years.

Yes.

You can go back.

Who are the best receivers to ever play in Baltimore?

You'd say probably Hollywood Brown.

Hollywood Brown.

Steve Smith.

Steve Smith.

He was pretty good.

Boulder.

Torrey Smith was good.

Anquan Bolden.

Yeah, Anquan Bolden.

Torrey Smith was pretty good.

Mike Wallace.

Mike Wallace.

It was a good tight end.

Mike Wallace.

Mike Wallace play there.

He was fast.

And Mark Inge, he's not having a great year, but he's still really good. The Ravens do tight ends.
They've always had a good tight end. Dennis Pitta.
They just remain so, so steadfast, and we're never going to throw the fucking ball. Yeah.
Run the damn ball. It is pretty insane.
So, yeah, that game's going to suck. I just looked it up.
Tyler Huntley was limited in practice on Wednesday with shoulder tendonitis. So it looks like he might play, but either way, that game stinks.
I think that that's all of them. It's never a good sign when your backup quarterback has a repetitive use injury.
Yes. Like a shoulder tendonitis that's just going to linger for the rest of his career.
Yeah. And people are very mad at Greg Roman for not running the ball more last week.
Do you see the I can't remember who showed up to the facility, but it would it was just papered with fire Greg Roman. Yeah.
Little pieces of paper that said it all over the in front of the facility. So that's that's just classic NFL fandom right there.
Yeah. Like you got to have a balance.
You got to balance attack. Greg Roman is an awesome offensive coordinator.
I think most teams that have a running quarterback would love to have him on the staff. But yeah, it's weird when the Baltimore Ravens rely on trying to do a passing attack when they don't have a quarterback that can throw it or a wide receiver that can catch it.
I just want Lamar to come back because the Ravens are an all-time bummer team when Lamar's not playing. Like, just a bummer, bummer team.

That's all the games.

That's all the games.

So, week 16.

Oh, also, big fuck you to Roger Goodell for not allowing the boy Will Compton to play in the NFL this year.

That became official yesterday.

Year 11 is starting to load right now.

We're on to year 11.

Some people were saying that Will Compton was scared and didn't want to play.

I'm here to tell you right now that is not true.

I also don't know if you can have a year 11 if you don't actually.

Yes, you counter.

Yeah.

Year 11.

Roll over minutes.

Roll over years.

We're on to year 11.

So if he doesn't play for the next 10 years and then comes back,

that would be like year 21.

That's how it counts.

Yeah.

So year 11, loading.

Please, let's sign the boy.

He was ready to go. Yeah.
Some were saying that he was going to, he was being brought in as a mercenary to knock Tom Brady out of the playoffs in the last week. And Roger Goodell could not have that.
And people also were saying online that will looked a little fat and had love handles. And that's why he's not playing.
That's also not true. Also very, also not true.
Also, they were saying that he was going to rig the games because he's so good at gambling. Right.
And that's all he cares about right now. Also not true.
That's not true. There was also some words that he didn't want to go back into a locker room after getting drunk and taking off his pants on the yak and everyone would make fun of him for maybe a lack of something.
That's not true either. He's also very famous for, well, I don't want to get into the bad tweets that he's got in the past.
You guys can find those. Right.
But that's not true as well. Those are fake.
That has nothing to do with it. Those are fake bad tweets.
That has nothing to do with it. Will Compton wanted to play, and we wanted him to play.
We were always behind him. And his tweets were fine.
And his tweets were totally fine. Except that one.
Yeah. Okay.
We're going to do Mount Rushmore.

What do we got?

So I'll go Dalvin.

I'll go Derek.

Okay.

It's low odds right now.

We've got to add someone.

Justin Fields.

Okay, Justin Fields.

And Alan?

Josh Allen? I love that.

Yeah.

I love that.

Okay.

I love that Mount Rushmore.

Let's do Fantasy Dabos.

We're doing Fantasy Dabos.

Hank. It's a tough one to follow up with Fantasy French.
Dabos. We're doing Fantasy Dabos.
Hank. It's a tough one to follow up with Fantasy French.
Dabbo. I also don't, you know.
What up, Dabbo? I don't, yeah. Dabbo.
Hey, I'm Dabbo. What up, Dabbo? They started him.
We wanted to have PFT started. He was the one who came up with Fantasy Dabbo.
It was Travis Hunter. He's officially a buff.
Wait, what the... My setup is Eggdog.
Eggdog's terrible. Do you know who Dabo Swinney is? Yeah, but like, God.
Dabo. God, my sleeper is Pontius Pilot.
Okay. It's not Easter.
Maybe we should recalibrate this. Ad don't know.
That might be right. No, no, no.
I love it. All right.
No, I do too, but go ahead, PFT. You got to pick us back up.
Yeah, I was just going to say, hey, y'all. It's Dabo Swinney.
Everyone take a knee. Hey, Dabo.
I'm starting players-only meetings this week. Nice.
I'm starting them. The Last Supper, the original players-only meeting.
God bless. Which one of y'all, Judas here? Raise your hand.
I'm sitting going for a walk with your cousins over the holiday season. Sitting at C right over there, Henry, where there was one set of footprints.
That's when Jesus dipped out on y'all because marijuana is still schedule one narcotic. Yeah, devil's lettuce.
My sleeper is Deshaun Watson. Deshaun Watson, former player.
Great guy. Good kid.
Good kid. This is a good matchup for him.
This is a good matchup for him. Get him on the hands team.
That's what we say. Gotta keep that man in pocket, that young man.
He's my sleeper. Alright.
Hey, boys. Hey, what's up, Dabo? Hey, it's Dabo here.
Hey, Dad. My stardom is Salt Bay.
That some people were saying, what the H-E double hockey sticks is this guy doing out here on the field? Let's just remember that everyone makes mistakes and we can redeem everyone. So, Salt Bae, you are redeemed.
My sit-em is Tom Izzo. Tom Izzo getting upset in his little ugly sweater as elf costume.
That seemed like some misplaced anger. Tom Izzo, maybe spend some more time with your family.
Use this real hot language on the course. Yeah, maybe spend some more time with your family.
Maybe don't have that type of anger, especially when you're wearing God's sweater, the little elf. And my sleeper, I don't even have a sleeper.
That's great. Yeah, I forgot to put down a sleeper.
You know why? Because you've got to stay woke this holiday. You've got to go recruit.
My sleeper is Christmas. It's a great holiday.
You sleep, and then you wake up in this presence. We're saying it again.
It literally means more Christ. Yeah, exactly.
That's good. That's true there, Dabo.
It's Jesus, not Jesus y'all. Yeah.
Hey, boys. It's Dabo.
And my stardom. Of course.
Of course. And my stardom.
And my stardom is Drew and Will Swinney on special teams. Oh, great players.
Please don't kick to them. Great players.
I have to pull them and then the mother will get angry at me. Great genetics.
My sitom is Satan who has come to college football in the form of NIL. And it's corrupting the players and we're thinking about more of me and not of the team.
And my sleeper is Sweet Baby Jesus in a manger. Absolutely.
I love it. The original victory formation.
I love it. Bonus start on that might be worth talking about.
YouTube TV. Big news.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
All right. This sucks for dads.
I'm just going to stay on the table for dads. I'm already dreading having to set up my dad's television every single week next to the full season.
So it's all YouTube TV? So is it going to just be behind all the time? That's the thing. It might be a delay.
I don't know how delayed Amazon is right now. I don't know.
And it depends on the quality of your stream too. So Twitter next year is going to be a minefield during week one.
It's going to be some be some people ahead but it's not going to be uniform i don't think there's going to be some people that are like five seconds ahead some people that are like 70 seconds behind depending on your connection god knows what bars are going to do like this bar bar owners and managers don't know how to use youtube does direct tv not have it anymore at all i don't believe so i wonder if that means there's only gonna be one red zone i don't know wow oh yeah i don't know how is this gonna work a lot of questions i mean the only plus that i can see is not having direct tv anymore like we don't have to worry about a storm taking out uh all our tv also direct tv just sucks dick yeah youtube tv is the best streaming service though is it and i actually i think this is going to be the death of old man takes. What do you mean? Because if they're not watching, we're going to have no access to the casual old guy who isn't really persistently into football, but who just watches it every once in a while and just gives the old man takes.
Well, they'll still be on TV, the games. Yeah, the local games are going to be on.
The local games will still be on TV. But in order to get out-of-market games, you're going to have to get YouTube.
So if you live in Dallas, you can still watch the Cowboys on TV. So I don't know if it's possible to do this yet, but what we've been building towards feels like the ability to get just a small package of, let's say me, I live in New York City, I want to watch the Commanders every weekend weekend get a sunday ticket that's just the commanders games right i know there's reasons behind like how much money is split and shared amongst the franchises why that hasn't been able to be done in the past but i feel like now is the time to do it if you're making everybody go to streaming and this is actually the one way to force dads to learn technology finally stuff they've been putting off for a long time i'm talking about dads that like refer to the computer as the email right those sort of guys they're going to have to evolve adapt or die in this circumstance yes i think we're going to see a lot of parents learning for the first time how to use the internet and getting really into youtube and going down strange rat rabbit holes it's going to be scary but we'll'll help everyone.
We will be the podcast that will help people through this. Yeah.
Yeah, big change. All right.
This does feel like the end of DirecTV as a whole, though, right? A little bit. Like, who out there is just getting DirecTV because the channels? It still does have a million channels, but yeah.
You can get those channels everywhere now, though. Pac-12 Network.
I still can't get Pac-12 network. It's the dumbest thing ever.
Yeah. I bet two Pac-12 games last night.

Couldn't watch it.

Like, how is that possible?

It's on Sling.

We all get Sling, one of our partners.

I knew that.

Yeah.

I knew that.

I totally knew that.

Okay, let's get to Tom Frinelli.

Let's talk some college football.

Yeah.

Before we do that, PFT?

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Okay, we now welcome on our very good friend. You can find him on CBS Sports in the Cover 3 podcast or you can follow him at Tom Fornelli on Twitter.
We're going to talk some bowl games, maybe a little signing day. Tom, great to see you.
Let's start with that. Signing day.
Winners and losers right off the rip. Who won? Who won signing day? Who won signing day? Let's see.
The companies that cover it and Alabama. That's it.
Those are the only real winners. Oregon was a winner because they kept flipping a bunch of guys.
The players are winners because now with NIL, these kids are all getting the bag right away, which is great for them. So, yeah, those are the winners.
The television companies, the recruiting sites, Alabama, Oregon, and the players. Which player had the best name on signing day? Was it Rowdy Beers or was it Dude Person? I'm a Dude Person guy.
Same. i rowdy beers is he's at the fbs level he ended up in florida international so i guess he's considered the better prospect but i don't know it's it's a good name fiu is not that great central arkansas is a pretty good fcs program and again the kid's name is dude person so like even if you're like substitute teacher comes in on the attendance roll call

you're still person dude so it's like your identity is the same either way yes yes that's very true all right so uh let's talk some bowl games we'll lead up to the big bowls before that what is your favorite bowl coming up in the next week and a half and why is it the arizona bowl with Ohio versus Wyoming.

It's the Arizona Bowl because I'm a loyal person,

and Ohio was a very good team to me this season. They got off to a really crappy start, and the market just kind of wrote them off, did not catch on, did not realize that this was a team that had kind of turned a corner at the end of September and was playing much better than the numbers indicated.
So I caught on pretty early. I started betting Ohio probably in early October and they won me a whole lot of money.
Curtis Rourke will forever. I might, if I ever have a kid, I might name him Curtis Rourke.
That's how much money I won thanks to him and the Bobcats this year. So I'm really psyched for them in that game.
And I'm also a fan of Wyoming. I mean, this is, it's a fun program.
It's always very windy in Laramie. So it's always been very profitable to bet unders for Wyoming home games.
And like, you know, I was on Josh Allen before you guys were, because I was watching Wyoming. Of course you guys were, you guys were way ahead of the curve of him being great.
I did not think he would be a very good NFL quarterback, but I saw him before you guys even knew he existed.

So I'm a big fan of Wyoming.

So Ohio-Wyoming, I think, is an

excellent matchup. I'm really looking forward to watching it.

Wow, you just street credit us. You just tried

to call us casual. Tom, I

was actually watching Josh when he was

in JUCO.

Alright, so what other

besides...

Oh yeah, no, I travel around. I go coach to coach All right.
So I've got, I've got direct TV packages. You don't even know about it.
They don't even tell people because they don't, they know most casual football fans can't even handle that much ball. That's a fact.
How many people do you think would watch like a Juco red zone? Oh yeah. I would.
Yeah, for sure. Hell yeah.
If there's football on, I'll put it on. Yeah.
The fact they don't have red zone for college football Saturdays is the dumbest thing ever. I don't know why they don't have that.
Okay, so besides the Barstool-Arizona Bowl, which obviously we're a little biased, your favorite bowl before we get to the semifinal, because I know I saw you actually, if anyone wants to have a little explainer, Tom releases right as the bowl season starts. He ranks all the bowls on excitement and what he's most excited for and what games are going to be the best matchup.
So what's the one that we should be looking out for that maybe people aren't paying attention to? Of the pre-big games, I would say the Alamo Bowl between Texas and Washington has a chance to be really fun and really stupid and really exciting.

Because I didn't think Michael Penix was going to be coming back to Washington. I thought that was a guy who was going to be entering the NFL draft.
And there was a very high likelihood of him opting out of this game to get ready for that. But one of the nice benefits of this NIL era is you're able to keep some kids in school longer because maybe the money you can get for playing another year at college is more than you might be guaranteed if you're like a third, fourth, or fifth round draft pick in the NFL.
So Michael Penix was convinced to come back to Washington, which is awesome because he is – he's not Josh Allen as far as total overall skill set as far as the size, but as far as arm strength is concerned, this kid might have a stronger arm than Josh Allen like he has thrown some passes that are just like when they they kind of get like the noise out of you when you see them live because you can't believe a human is able to throw a football that hard on a line like that I think that maybe sometimes he needs to work on some of the touch passes not everything has to be 100 miles an hour all the time but he's. He's really exciting.
And that's a very fun offense to watch. And then there's Texas, which has Quinn Ewers, who is a very highly rated quarterback himself, who was off to a very good start in that game against Alabama earlier this season before he got injured and broke his collarbone or it was the AC joint, whatever it was, he hurt his shoulder and he hasn't been quite the same since, but I'm hoping that the time off from the season he's been able to get healthy get ready for this bowl game i think that's a tremendous quarterback battle between two very good offenses in a game that could feature a whole hell of a lot of points and we've seen alamo bowls in the past get kind of crazy so that's a game i'm really looking forward to watching and another one wait i have a question about that game just real quick sarkeesian is there any actual bad blood that remains between him and Washington? Probably.
There's probably like three or four Washington fans on a message board somewhere that are still really pissed off at him for leaving for USC. Like, I can't understand why you would ever leave us for USC.
Like, the way – I mean, look at how Oklahoma fans reacted to Lincoln Riley leaving for USC. And just – so, yeah, it's –, definitely there's got to be like some sort of bad blood somewhere.
I don't know how much, but I think that honestly, if you're Washington, you could probably argue that you've been better off because Chris Peterson replaced Steve Sarkeesian and did things I don't think Sark would have ever done in Washington. That's a good point.
Yeah, you missed out on the bad Sark years, too. Yeah.
That's a fact. All right, what was the other game you were going to say? The other one is the Sun Bowl between Pitt and UCLA.
I promo'd you guys' game. I got to promo the CBS game, too.
Yeah. UCLA and Pitt on CBS in beautiful El Paso with the mountains in the background.
This is another game that could be pretty fun. Again, with all bowl games, you never know with opt-outs and transfers what you're to expect but i think that this is a classic matchup of a team that loves to score points and loves offense in chip kelly and the bruins versus a team that is fundamentally opposed to scoring points in pat and arduzzi and the panthers and like you see the more points that pitt scores the more angry pat and Narduzzi gets because, goddammit, he wants to win that game 10-7, and he can't believe he's being forced to score 38 points to win this game.
But, okay, fine, he'll do it if he has to. I think that's a pretty good matchup.
I think that could be an exciting game. I agree.
I'm excited for that. And I think there's – I've heard conflicting reports.
Maybe DTR plays? I hope he does because he is – I'm hoping he does. Yeah, for people who don't follow UCLA, DTR is one of the most exciting players in college football.
It's basically either the most incredible play you've ever seen or it could be a complete disaster. And he's got a little Josh Allen in him where he'll just run guys over at the quarterback position.
And he's just electric, no matter what he's doing, good or bad. He reminds me kind of of Trey Young in that, I mean, he's bigger than Trey, and I think he's a little more physical than Trey, but he just tries wild shit, and if it works, it's awesome, and then sometimes it doesn't work, but you don't really care when it doesn't work because you know he's going to try something else later that's going to work and it's going to be crazy, so he's's a really fun guy to watch yeah what about the mayo bowl give me a mayo bowl tip tom i want to know who's going to get covered in mayonnaise by the end of this one well first of all i just want to give credit to both coaches for agreeing to the fact i don't know if you guys saw the announcement the mayo bowl made the announcement that the winner of the game the winning head coach will take the mayo bath i'm hoping it's nc state because i just

feel like dave doran with mayo would just he would be so angry even though he agreed to it like he

would immediately regret the decision like he'd be like what the fuck was i thinking this is the

dumbest fucking thing like shane beamer had it last year and he was really into it that's just

a very shane beamer kind of thing but i think doran will regret it so i'm 100 rooting for

the wolf pack it's just i do not know who's going thing but I think Doran will regret it so I'm 100%

rooting for the Wolfpack it's just I do not know who's going to be playing quarterback for them

they were down to like their fourth stringer towards the end of the season I don't know what

the situation will be going for them into the game but I hope the Wolfpack win that one because I

feel like if if there's a chance of anybody getting punched for dumping mayo on a coach it will be by

Dave Doran so off of that uh Tom you and I are kindred spirits in that we just love love love

Thank you. getting punched for dumping mayo on a coach it will be by dave doran so off of that uh tom you and i are kindred spirits in that we just love love love bowl season we bet all the bowls it's you know tom will text me on a saturday and it'll be like 35 bets and i'll text him back and be like i have 42 bets uh it has it for me it's lost a tiny bit with all the opt-outs i don't want to be that guy but it's more just like i want to watch fun football i want to watch guys i watched all season and then when we get to game day and there's a you know a quarterback or a big player opting out it's like well this kind of sucks because i love bowl games yeah bowl season has become live betting for me mostly like i will play some bets before but it is definitely more of a vibe check now than it used to be where you want to see like we want to see how shit starts you want to make sure the team that's playing the game cares you want to make sure who's playing like you said it might be a quarterback with the with the opt-outs might be injuries that kind of crop up late that you don't expect so like i love them and i am watching them all but I understand where people are coming from when they say that,

you know, it's just not as fun as it used to be because of the,

you know,

the opt outs,

the transfer portal,

the playoff has made these games a little less and you just don't see the

full strength teams,

but it is very much a situation where we game start.

Like I am on quit watch pretty much every time I'm watching a game because

there is moment where you could see it in a team where they no longer care.

And as soon as you see it, you just fire it on the on the spread you know fade them and you're going to win far more often than not because generally once a team quits and you can see it it's in the body language it's in the way that they start tackling like usc in the pac-12 championship game even though like you could see that defense quit they knew that they weren't gonna be able to win the game because caleb williams couldn't move and they were not giving any effort into tackling so you look at stuff like that and you could just pick it up and you just fire on it and you are going to win unless the other team does something incredibly stupid which this is college football and part of the appeal of it is there's always a chance that somebody will do something incredibly stupid yeah what about the orange bowl the orangest orange bowl that's ever been played? Tennessee, Clemson, which orange?

Just off the top of your head, if you're thinking about which orange is better,

I identify more with the volunteer orange.

I think I look better in volunteer orange than I do in Clemson orange.

It's not – I don't know.

Just my skin tone, I think, pops a little better.

I've always said that about you. Yeah, thank you.

Thank you.

I think it would be hilarious if Tennessee came out in this game in its gray uniforms and Clemson came out wearing purple. I'm kind of rooting for that to happen.
Either that or let both teams play in their orange uniforms and just see what happens. Just a delightful shit show.
Yeah, no, I think those are the only two real options that we should have. In fact, we should start a petition.
This is a hard game to figure out because Cade Klubnick is going to be the starting quarterback for Clemson. And I understand Clemson fans were tired of DJU, and Klubnick comes in at the end of the year, and he plays well.
The team wins a game. But I don't think the quarterback has been the problem for Clemson as much as the offense itself has been the problem for Clemson.
So I don't know if you're going to see that big of a change. But on the other side, no disrespect.
Well, this is going to be disrespectful, I guess. But Joe Milton is, you know, like there's a baseball pitcher.
You'll see relievers who can throw 103 miles an hour, but they cannot find the strike zone and they do not have a change up or a breaking ball. That is Joe Milton.
Every single pass he throws is 1,000 miles per hour in a direction, not to a place, just in a direction, and you kind of have to cross your fingers and hope it goes to the right place. So it's going to be hard to trust Tennessee's offense here.
I think Tennessee's the better team. I would probably take them in the points pregame, but I don't know.
I'm going to need to wait to see this one start. Joe Miltonton i've always said is he is when you're playing madden and you just press as hard as you can on the button there's no touch none i don't even think he could do touch if you asked him to do a touch like his arm is insane a guy could be running like a five-yard hitch route and he will fire that ball at them as hard as he fucking can yes yes tom on the the, on the note of, like, which teams will quit, I don't – I'm looking at Alabama, Kansas State.
There's no chance that Alabama's got any quit in them, right? Like, Nick Saban, he will have, like, ran the quit out of teams by now, right? I am – this is an interesting thing to me because I had – I was convinced neither Bryce Young or Will Anderson were going to play in this game. I was like, all right, Alabama doesn't win the LCC.
It's not going to the playoff. We're going to see opt-out after opt-out.
But credit to Young and Anderson because they are both playing in this game. They seem to be taking it seriously.
Whether they play the whole game, I don't know. But it does make it interesting, and I think you're right.
It's hard to imagine a Nick Saban team quitting just because he'd be so angry at them, and you don't want to get him angry because he's scary. I think he's also still got that thing in his back pocket where draft season comes around, coaches call Nick Saban.
Do you want me to say something good about you or say something bad about you? I don't think Nick Saban will ever say anything bad about any of his guys unless they're doing something you know genuinely bad people stuff i don't think he would say that to him about a bowl game but he might threaten them by saying it right so i just yeah i'm nervous always with alabama and non-playoff bowl games that utah game the the sugar bowl they played uh whatever it was maybe a decade ago where it's like and in al and Alabama always has the perfect out because if they don't win, they weren't trying. And there's always a deflating aspect to Alabama's season when they don't get to the college football playoff.
And the other thing, too, about this Alabama team is there was the dumbass debate at the end of the year about whether a two-loss Alabama team. They were never playoff no matter what had happened that final weekend of the season but the thing about Alabama this year is it's just not that good and I say that in the context of Alabama it's one of the 10 best teams in the country but as compared to the Alabama teams that we're used to seeing this team isn't very good it's probably the worst Alabama team Saban's had in a decade or so.

There's nobody at the receiver position.

They took some swings on guys in the transfer portal.

None of them have worked out.

That's really hindered Bryce Young.

It's kind of given you an idea of how good Bryce Young actually is,

that he was able to carry this team as far as he did,

despite having no real receivers outside of Jameer Gibbs,

which is his running back.

Defensively, Will Anderson is a beast.

There's a couple other really good dudes on that defense, like Kool-Aid McKinstry, which is also an amazing name. But overall, they're just not that good.
And this is a Kansas State team that, I mean, it won the Big 12, and it didn't win it by accident. They probably beat TCU during the regular season if they weren't knocked down to their third-string quarterback during that game.
And then they come back and they beat tcu in the big 12 championship and you know like you said there's there's some question about how badly alabama wants this game and there's the built-in excuse of if they lose well they didn't want to be there anyway you know kansas state wants this game because this is a chance to say we beat alabama in a sugar bowl which for kansas state is not something that they get a lot of chances to do and this could also serve kind of as a statement game for the Wildcats in that with Oklahoma and Texas leaving the Big 12, somebody's got to take over the crown of being the best program in the Big 12 right now. Kansas State, it just won the conference.
It's going to want to say, listen, man, we are that program. We are somebody who is going to be making a lot of noise in this conference in the future.
You better get on board now. i was just looking it up the last four times alabama's played in bowl games that were not college football playoffs they're two and two they lost to utah which i mentioned they got they lost to oklahoma and then they beat michigan and michigan state so um yeah i just i i'm always nervous because it is like that that aspect of kansas state being, our basically careers get made if we beat Alabama in a bowl game.

Yeah, so Alabama can beat the Big Ten whether it cares or not,

but it can't beat anybody else.

Right, right.

Okay, let's talk about the college football playoff.

I want to start with the Ohio State-Georgia game.

And I want to throw out my theory, and I want to see where you land on this. A lot of people have been saying Georgia, maybe not the same team as last year.

They're not.

Georgia's team last year was insane because they point to Kentucky or Mizzou

or Kent State.

These games where they kept teams, bad teams, around.

I see it as the flip side.

They knew that they were going – they're better than everyone.

And when they do play the really good teams, Oregon, when they played Tennessee, when they played LSU, they absolutely put it on them. Which side do you land on in terms of this Georgia team? Do they have that switch that they've been able to flip for a few big games this year? Oh, yeah.
No, that's exactly what's happened with this team. They are not as good as last year because, like you said, last year's team was just a fucking juggernaut.
I mean, everywhere you looked, it was an NFL team talent-wise. Every single player that started on that team was an NFL player, except for Bennett.
No offense, Stetson. He's going to come after you for that.
Listen, I've been the biggest Stetson defender for the last couple of years. Like, all my Cover 3 podcast hosts have been shitting on him, and I was like, dude, Stetson's really good.
He's not you know a first round pick but he's a very good college quarterback and that's the case i just don't know if he's an nfl quarterback it's also not his fault that his teammates are so good and all he has to be just like i know why do we find one of his two incredible tight ends give him the ball and let him score it's like go ask tom brady hey tom would you wish you had shitty teammates or would you like to have good teammates I mean we whatever anyway but it's this Georgia team is still the best team in the country I think but you are dead on in that there were a few years ago like when Clemson was at the height of being Clemson like when it was in the Deshaun Watson era and it was winning national titles still you saw Dabo Sweeney and this team take an approach in conference play against some of the lesser opponents. They didn't care.
They just wanted to win by one point. And they were doing whatever they had to do to win the game.
And then they were kind of coasting. And then that way, they were keeping themselves fresh and healthy to when they got to the playoff because they knew in the ACC, they were far and away the best team in the conference.
They were saving themselves for the big games. And when it got there, they would turn it on.
Now, Georgia doesn't have that same kind of ability to just completely coast through the conference season because it is in the SEC. And even though the SEC was very down this year compared to most years, there's still some pretty good teams in it.
But yeah, no, Georgia was playing with its food a lot. Like Georgia knew that at any point when it was playing Missouri, when it was playing Kent State, when it was playing these teams, as soon as we flip the switch, we'll be fine.
We'll win this game. And then, like you saw in the Tennessee game, they just came out and absolutely destroyed them right from the jump and then took the entire second half off.
Like, they knew the game was wrapped up. We saw them do it to Alabama, or we saw them do it in the SEC championship game against LSU.
So it's like any time they – and then you go back to the beginning of the season. Oregon, big game at the start of the season, crush them.
Get to a rivalry game against Auburn, crush them. Anytime they had a big game, early rivalry game, they flipped the switch and they destroyed teams.
I think they're going to take this game seriously. I think that they are going to win, but I will say, uh-oh.
I think that there's been, I like Georgia, but I do think that we think that there's been a large overreaction to Ohio State losing to Michigan. Ooh.
I think that Ohio State suddenly sucks in the mind of a lot of people because they lost to Michigan two years in a row. And I get going into this matchup, like, Ohio State has gotten beaten up by Michigan the last two years, a very physical team.
Ohio State hasn't really been able to handle it. So now you're facing Georgia, which is basically we saw what Georgia did to Michigan last year.
Like it's the same thing as Michigan is, but with far more talent across the board. So I get that.
But C.J. Stroud is still a very good player.
They still have a bunch of NFL receivers. And we have seen Georgia struggle in the secondary when it goes up.
If we go back to last season when Alabama still had receivers in the regular season that defense got exposed by Alabama Bryce Young picked them apart CJ Stroud and those receivers are talented enough to pick that secondary apart the question is is that offensive line strong enough to stand up to Jalen Carter and that defensive front I don don't think it is. I think Georgia wins this game a lot more often than it loses it, but I don't think this is going to be a blowout.
I do think Ohio State is still a very good team that just lost to another very good team, and now it's suddenly being written off as a bad team in the eyes of many. I think the Buckeyes are still very good.
They could win this game. Counterpoint, Tom.
NCAA rigged, and they want to see Ohio State-Michigan in the championship game. Can you imagine the ratings that that game would do? See, that's why I thought they were going to put it in the semi.
I did too. To make sure that they could get it in? Yeah.
I mean, listen, I started CFPing on, all right? I believe that most of this stuff is done for, you know, whatever, just to put the big brands in. But I was wondering if that's what they would do if they would put Ohio like with TCU losing, they would quote unquote punish them by moving them down to four and leaving Ohio State at number three so they can guarantee that they would get it because like the title game that's going to get ratings no matter who's in it it's

the fucking title game but you can really guarantee that a new year's eve where the games the ratings for those games have kind of suffered over the years you could really get a bump if you put that thing in prime time ohio state michigan you'd have 20 million people watching that on new year's eve yeah but i mean just imagine though a title game oh ohio state michigan how many people are going watch that. I would wonder if the

like with the Southeast watch

I don't know if the SEC But just imagine, though, a title game of Ohio State-Michigan. How many people are going to watch that?

I would wonder if the, like, would the Southeast watch?

I don't know if the SEC would.

I think they would.

I don't know if they could take it. I think they'll watch no matter what.

I don't know if their Eagles could take it.

I think they would be like, no, I don't want to watch a Big Ten title game.

I think it wasn't real football.

They'd watch just to be like, Alabama would beat either one of these teams.

Yeah, that also. Just to tell themselves.
Yeah. So, for Ohio State, I get what you're saying.
The thing that I just don't – I can't wrap my head around is Ohio State struggles with very physical teams. Georgia is Michigan on steroids.
Yes. Yeah, Georgia is Michigan with more NFL players.
Like, they will pound it down your throat. They'll use their big tight ends.

Like, that's where I'm just like, I think Georgia's going to win this game and cover this spread because Ohio State has all the flash and they have a great team talent, but as a football team, when they have to step up to these guys and, you know, they struggle a little with Notre Dame in the first game of the season. I just – I love Georgia in this game.
I think, too, I don't think, like, Georgia's offense is very strong, very powerful. They have a very good offensive line.
They have very good tight ends. But, like, you saw in that game against Michigan, like, they were hitting shots.
Like, Michigan was doing stuff it hadn't done, and you could argue that it was not really a kind of process that it was sustainable like they were hitting big plays but they hadn't done it all year you could argue there was some luck to it can georgia hit those same big plays on the ohio state defense i don't know i think like i think the michigan win looked like far more of a blowout in the scoreboard than it really was if you watched the game closely it was some plays that kind of really tilted things and it just got out of hand. So that's part of my theory where I think Ohio state is still a lot better than a lot of people are giving it credit for, but they are playing what I believe to be the best team in the country.
Yeah. And I also have, I'm firmly in Jim Harbaugh's camp that Ryan day was born on third and thought he hit a triple because he was put in the perfect spot by urban Meyer and urban Meyer never, you you know i mean urban meyer would just beat the brakes off of jim harbaugh every year and then you see what happened in the last two years like how did this happen like you had it all set up for you it was turnkey and something has happened in the last two years that it's diminished and i i think this game's really important for ryan day oh yeah i don't i don't think they have to it, but I think if they get blown out after coming off the Michigan.
Like, I don't think most people outside of Ohio State in, like, Big Ten country realize that he's kind of on the hot seat now. Yeah.
You can't lose to Michigan if you're the Ohio State coach. Not anymore.
Like, it's become so important. Like you have to win.
Your three goals are to win the big 10 or first beat Michigan, win the big 10,

win. Your three goals are to win the Big Ten, or first beat Michigan, win the Big Ten, win national titles.
Winning national titles is the third least important of those three things. Beating Michigan and winning the Big Ten are the two big ones, and he hasn't done either in the last couple of years.
And I think that he's going to go into next season. Like, if they get blown out by this game, I think no matter what, but I think unless he wins the national title, he's going to go in the next season.
There's going to be a lot of pressure on him to not only win the Big Ten, but, you know, beat Michigan and beat them soundly. Because even if you look at like the way Ohio State's recruiting class just finished up, they're kind of losing momentum here.
It's not a very good thing right now. There's too many things that aren't going in the right direction for where Ohio State is supposed to be and where Ohio State wants to be that, I mean, I don't know.
I just, it's going to be an interesting situation to follow that I think more people need to start kind of keeping an eye on. And I'm deathly afraid that Luke Fickle, like I'm hoping that if Ryan Day, it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out right now.
Because like two years from now, then I might be in trouble. I think you'll be be fine i think fickle will stay at wisconsin and then mike vrabel will go to ohio state no no chance 0.0 chance mike vrabel wants to recruit no i think i think brian hartline i think there's a lot of guys that could go take that job at ohio state if they get rid of day and again i feel like now we're just being whatever but if that happens i stay at Wisconsin, honestly.
Okay, good, good. What about on the other side of that bracket? What about what is Harbaugh doing differently this year? Because he strikes me as a guy that if something doesn't work the year before, he'll like go overboard in one direction or like find one thing that he focuses on.
He's like, here's what we're going to concentrate on this year to make sure that we don't have a repeat of what happened last year so what what do you think harbaugh what's is there like a weird message he's giving his guys is there something specific he's doing differently this year that he wasn't doing last year yeah he's threatening that he's going to go interview for an nfl job on signing day if they don't win this game um i i don't know that there's a different message as much as i think that what jim done that he's adapted to. Like, I think he tried at first to adapt the offense.
Like, there was the criticism, and I was throwing some of it out there, that, like, you'd seen Alabama and Nick Saban make the change offensively, leaving that kind of rock fight style of we're just going to, you know, beat you to death with our defense, to adding more RPO and spread principles to the offense. And I thought Michigan needed to do that.
He tried to, and it really didn't work. And then

last year, they kind of went back to just being physical and it worked. I think where he's adapted

is Michigan, since Harbaugh has been there, is never like a top three kind of recruiting team.

It's never really in the top five. It's typically top 10, maybe sometimes in the top 20.
They they get the talent that they want and they've done a very good job of developing high school talent what's changed i think is they've been a little more aggressive it's with transfers like figuring when they miss on a guy coming out of high school that's maybe not developing at the rate that they're expecting him to and is not ready they're going into the transfer portal and they are getting guys in who are ready-made like olu olu atatiimi came in took over the center spot from Virginia and he's been one of the best I think he won the Remington he's been one of the best linemen in the country was has been great for them all season long has been a huge part offensively I also think that he's going to J.J. McCarthy this is not a knock on Cade McNamara who I think is a good quarterback and will probably be pretty good for Iowa next year.
But McCarthy is more dynamic and gives them a little bit more options of what they can do on offense, which makes them harder to defend because even though they're going to be a run first team, he's at least his legs give him the chance to run. So instead of playing 11 on 10 defensively, you have to play 11 on 11.
That makes things more complicated. So I think that that's where he's adopted he's gotten more mobile quarterback and michigan is being a little more active in the transfer portal than they had been in recent years because michigan had always kind of held the you know oh we don't want to rely on transfers blah blah blah you know we're academics and all that kind of crap i think michigan is uh playing a little more ball now they're not they're not being as they're not promoting it but i think that's what's happening like if you look right now at the transfer rankings for the current class, I think Michigan's ranked first with the guys that they're bringing in.
Damn. Walk me through what happens.
I like doing this thought experiment. TCU just made the championship game.
What happened to get them there? What? So it's like how did they beat Michigan? You're retroactively. How did they beat Michigan, other words yeah yeah no but it's better when you say like tcu is in the national championship game against georgia got it what happened what happened i was very confused there what happened tom oh they scored more points than michigan and they moved on uh this is defensively michigan has not had to face like ohio state is the only real passing attack that they had to face that could kind of stretch them and they overwhelmed ohio state's offensive line and really hurt them and they kind of got them they kind of got ohio state in a place where it had to chase points instead of do what it wanted offensively and that becomes much easier to defend when you do that if tcu hits some shots early and gets ahead of michigan and puts michigan in the other seat where michigan's got to be the team to try to catch up because this is a team that is still trying to be deliberate on offense and losing blake corum hurts now donovan edwards i think is a very good player as well they're still gonna be able to run the ball but if you have to put more on jj mccarthy's shoulders that could be the problem so for TCU, the key, if they want to pull off this upset and win this game and play for a national title, they have to get off to a quick start.
They have to be winning at the end of the first quarter. They should probably be winning at halftime.
They do not want to find themselves in a position to be chasing Michigan because if Michigan's able to just defensively pin its ears back and go get Max Duggan, who we saw just get the shit beaten out of him by Kansas State, the entire Big 12 championship. I don't know how healthy he is for this game.
You do not want to be in that position if you're the Horned Frogs. I don't know if Kendra Miller's going to be able to find much running room against this Michigan defense.
So they're going to need to hit some shots the same way that Michigan hits shots against Ohio State, big plays in the passing game, take a lead, and just kind of put Michigan back on its heels. Counterpoint, TCU basically has been down in every game, and they have alligator blood.
Like, I'm taking TCU in this game just because they play close games, and I'm giving them more credit for being as tested as you can be because the Big 12 was good this year, and they ran the gauntlet. I know they had a couple injuries to the opposing quarterback that helped, but they just stay in games.
But I could counter that by saying, well, it's not, there is no Michigan team in the Big 12. There's no like copycat of that really.
But the most Michigan-esque team in the Big 12 was Kansas State. And Kansas State would have probably beaten them twice if they had their quarterback for the entire first game.
Okay, all right. Good counterpoint to my counterpoint.
All right, so, Tom, I have one last question. It's a rowback question.
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I'm wearing the joggers right now. Give us your one lock of the bowl season, and why is it Mississippi State? Because it's a dead coach game.
Who are they playing? Illinois, I believe. Oh, shit.
Oh, whoops. So will you concede this bowl game? No.
For Mike Leach? No. Wow.
Tom Frinelli has just spat on Mike Leach's legacy. Yes.
That's gross. That's gross.
Sorry. Sorry.
Sorry, Mike. You're the only – only you and fellow Illini alum are rooting for Illinois in this game.
I think some Illini alum will be rooting for Mississippi State, honestly, but I am not one of them. Goini beat the shit out of Mississippi State oh man

beat the shit out of wow

I mean wouldn't it be more of a

touching tribute to his legacy if

they get Mississippi State gets shut out

they can't score a single point without him

that's a good point yeah that's how you have to spin it

I will say I hope Illinois comes out

first snap of the game runs four verts just as

a touching tribute

Brett Bielema's brain would explode

hey Illinois has got

more of that to its offense this year than I think most people

Thank you. snap of the game runs four verts just as a touching tribute um brett bielema's like brain would explode hey illinois got more of that to its offense this year than i think most people realize um my favorite bet honestly the over in tulane usc oh yes i mean caleb williams i he should be healthy the hamstring should be better enough in this game but tulane i do not think like defensively they've been pretty good this year but they haven't faced a you they haven't faced caleb williams they haven't faced those receivers so i don't think they're going to get many stops and on the flip side we know usc is not going to get any stops that defense is terrible particularly against the run two lanes got a very strong run game i think that is going to be a back and forth tennis match it is going to be very fun to watch in the total i think last i saw was like 62 61 is somewhere in there way too low they're going to get 70s for this one it's tom's an under guy by the way you're an under he's a big under guy well i mean that's smart that's probably why you're good at gambling right right um what about caleb williams is he gonna be pissed off enough at tulane to have like fuck you tulane painted on his nails before this game? Fuck Tula.
Fuck Tula. Yeah.
Fuck Wade. Is Caleb Williams, is he going to get up for this game? I think so.
I mean, I think coming off that loss, he's got, you know, something to prove. He's won the Heisman.
He's going to want to build some stuff going into the next year. I think Caleb Williams is just that kind of guy.
I think it doesn't really matter who he's facing. He's going to be pumped up and ready to play.
And it's going to be, again, the Trojans probably going to be pissed off that they blew the shot at the playoff, and they might try to be taking it out on the green wave here. But the green wave are a very good team on offense who are getting a shot to beat USC.
And honestly, like the spread was only two points last I checked. I think that will catch a lot of people off guard.
But because USC's defense is so terrible and Tulane is able to run the ball so effectively it's not out of question that tulane can pull this game off i think this is going to be a hell this is going to be a really really exciting and fun game agreed agreed all right tom last thing i have um you have a rivalry with hank uh hank has never gotten the lottery ball i'm gonna let you guess one yeah no he's never gotten it right hank Like, I like no no wow i feel like you just do you even have to try like i mean no you just have to name a number how hard can it be it's hard very really hard a hundred of them it's very easy so i'm gonna let you no one else is gonna guess this is just yours what tom gets a chance i should get another chance no you don't get another chance what would your number be? You can pick it If Tom says a number that you like the sound of I'll let you take Tom's number too So it counts Hank what number do you want to pick? No Tom you can't do that I'm just not going to pick that number Hank what number do you want to pick? 17 Alright 3 give me 3 Alright I'll take 3 Do you want 3? So we're just giving him one yeah but i mean it's tom's number but we'll let hank ride this doesn't count as it does no it can't i'm not the first time hank has stolen something from me let's be real yeah yeah i'm gonna let this count he's plagiarizing all right well actually it doesn't matter because tom you will not oh oh you broke the machine i didn't close the door you broke the machine tom i didn't close the door or any of the balls that came out crazy which last one is all out all right we won't be doing this sorry tom that's that's a message from the gods that way to go thank you fuck oh that was awesome tom before we let you. Oh, man.
This is very, very important. Billy has to clean up the rest again after this.
It's very, very important, Tom. So you are on the low man committee for the low man trophy for the top fullback in all of college football.
So we've got the finalists.

We're going to announce the finalists right now in your presence.

You do have a vote.

You voted on this. And then at the Barstool Bowl, we're going to announce it pregame, I believe.

We're going to award the trophy live on the pregame show before that game.

So just your initial reaction to the final four for the low man trophy we've got potabomb from iowa yep monty potabomb uh perennial nominee great fullback we have drew painter james madison university we have brad roberts air force air force yep and then the fourth hunter Hunter Lepke, North Dakota State University. Dakota State.
Yeah. It's an excellent Final Four.
I feel like the James Madison guy's rigged, maybe. I don't know how he got on the final list.
The committee has a lot of integrity, Tom. We've got a lot of integrity on this committee.
And I do have a vote, transparently. I big cats got a vote and um that's why like everybody says like oh low man rigged when uh wisconsin fullback wins it every single year uh but no this is we have a prestigious committee it's yourself andy staples jacob pastor lorenzo neal mike allstadt john coon the list goes on and on and on we've got a who's who a fullback community real fullback heads do you want to announce like out of those four do you want to pick your choice and this will be your official vote man this is pressure uh lepke north dakota state son of a good okay just uh i just he's a battering ram he's good carrying the ball i just really like him uh i will say though pft congratulations to your dukes on a successful first fbs season yes thank you very successful and a great pizza party yeah um all right well tom thank you as always appreciate it good luck in the bowl season and uh we'll talk to you soon thank you hank you're gonna win one day i promise no he won't no he won't because we're out of no he won't yeah that's true.
That's true. We need Billy to pick up the ball, so maybe sometime next year you'll be able to play again.
Alright, see you, Tom. See you later.
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Okay, let's wrap up with some fire fest. Quick reminder, uh, the show scheduled next week, Sunday night.
So there'll be a new episode on Monday, the 26th. It would just be me and PFT.
Uh, and then we'll have the best of on Wednesday, old school, old school. Yeah.
Me and PFT. We're going to try to keep it tight, uh, for the people who's probably a lot of people who people aren't working this week but we will have a new episode because it is an nfl sunday uh we will have the best of on wednesday and then friday we'll be doing a new new show from arizona so we'll be together for that one and then we're back regularly scheduled programming on january 2nd we'll have the regular sund week 17.
I do love, by the way, that the new schedule that we have a week 18, like a week into January, because it really does feel, because that combo of having all the bowl games on January 1st and then week 17 close by, it really feels like everything's over after that. Yeah.
So it's nice to have a little buffer.

It's good to go into January,

although that's usually traditionally that first week of January

when head coaches would all get fired.

Yeah, sure.

That's kind of weird to have Black Monday push back a little bit.

It should actually be at the end of the calendar year

just for tax purposes.

That's got to be a pain in the ass.

We should actually do a fire, like the transfer portal.

We should do a fire portal where it opens once, let's say, in October. It opens for three days, and then in January it opens for a week.
You've got to fire in that range. Yeah, no, I think that's a great idea.
So we can all keep track of it. It's always weird when a coach gets fired long after the season's over.
It's like, why didn't you do this ahead of time? But, yeah, I'm excited to have the – I like the extended schedule. Now I'm officially on board.
More football is good football. Yes.
Hank, Firefest of the week. I have a couple.
Not getting the lottery ball? No, I'm about to get it. Ha! Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Our office is very close to Penn Station. Yep.
But, which is where the Amtrak leaves from for whatever reason a couple weeks ago i decided to book a flight home and i booked it for later i'm here now i could have just left got on a train those are much you know much easier to get on much less likelihood of delays and shit didn't do that booked a flight so this might be a pre-fire fest if i get delayed and i end up like spending 10 hours at an airport for a 45 minute flight yeah that will be a potential pre-fire fest second one holiday edition as well you guys know me i'm just such a workhorse i'm just so locked in on work and all of a sudden i look up and it's like christmas like today you know the office is closed i even realize it yeah and grind so third floor corporate life i just didn't realize a lot of people get a lot of little gifts and trinkets and stuff, and I just didn't really do that. You didn't do that? You didn't buy anything? I did for MB, the person I work with the most, but a lot of the other random people that I wouldn't expect- No trinkets.
We don't do trinket gifts like that. Hank, are you a Grinch? No.
I might be a Grinch. I might be a Grinch.
I don't know. Oh, even worse.
It sounds like you're a Scrooge. Because you're the boss.
It sounds like you've got to give some trinket gifts after the New Year, which is even worse. Do I, though? Yeah.
Because you missed out being a Scrooge. You're like, ah, I didn't get in here in time.
Here's your trinket gift. Do you not appreciate the people that work for you? I don't.
Yes, I do. What were the trinket gifts you got? Cookies.

That's not a trinket.

Or like a small,

it's a small gift of appreciation. I don't know.

Okay.

Cookies.

What else?

Wait, you didn't share those cookies with us?

They're upstairs.

Huh.

Okay.

What else?

Gift card.

What was that to?

Coffee place.

Stella Blue?

Yes.

Yeah.

Okay.

Nice.

Awesome.

Who gave you that? Just curious curious don't worry about it okay all right well you got to get on yeah I guess I'm a Grinch I'm a Grinch yeah you're a Grinch I'd say Scrooge officially a Grinch all right PFT your Firefest my Firefest of the week is I've actually had a clean week, so I'm excited to get into the holiday weekend.

Clean?

Yeah, very clean week.

Yeah.

Exceptionally clean, some might say.

I keep a clean... I run a tight ship over here on this side of the table.

Billy found an old takeout bag that I had in my pile, and so Billy came in this morning

and was telling me how dirty I was.

Watched on PMTV.

Always a great way.

Yeah, watched on PMTV.

I like to run a tight ship around here.

I guess there was some sort of a bowl, maybe a Chipotle thing, that got left behind and got buried under layers of pile. PFT leaves food left over.
So here's the difference between Big Cat's piles and PFT's piles. Big Cat's piles are like a pile of laundry.
Hypothetically, it almost could be like hot laundry out of the dryer that you could jump in pfts might have rotting or like food items i had one i had one food item you said he was like oscar the grouch yeah yeah oscar the grouch style he lives in a trash can like they're like it is possible there might be a banana peel in the pile i appreciate this because i get the most heat for right your pile's clean like if you're'd be like, okay. Yeah, there's nothing in there.
I jump into my pile all the time. The problem is with my pile, yeah, it had one takeout thing in there.
This isn't the first time. And then it's got, yeah, it is the first time, Billy.
I've seen others. It's the first time.
It's the first time. It's just never on film.
It's the first time. I've seen others.
Sometimes there's a takeout bag that has,y bill even said when we sat down he said that pile occasionally will have a takeout bag that has napkins or utensils in it which i'm sorry if i did not throw that away but this is the first time for food you're a trash guy it's the first time for food you're a trash i had a poop guy actually i wouldn't be surprised if it was just a bag of poop in your pile i had of poop over here. I mean, we had the Mountain Dew incident.
I'm a hatchet guy. I do have a knife in my pile.
I took it away. And I've got a hatchet in my pile.
So now Billy's got a hatchet and a knife somewhere. We did have the spitter incident with no cap on it.
That was true. Yeah.
But that's before I quit. My other real fire fest is that now I'm just back addicted to being...
I'm addicted to being addicted to nicotine. Nice.
So I need to quit that again for years. Welcome back.
All right. My fire fest, I alluded to it earlier, but I am so fat.
I am so fucking fat. Shaving my face was a big, big mistake.
The pictures have been an onslaught. Probably going to be a few from this show right now because I don't know.
The angles just aren't working. Yeah, Hank, go ahead.
Look up. Look at my chins.
That's fine. Hey, look directly at my chins when you're talking to me.
Oh, yeah, now plan the angles. Well, there are angles that make it worse, but it's bad.
I'm so fat I got a gym membership, so we're going to fix this. Oh, Mr.
Ab's over there. Yeah.
Where are they? They're coming. Let's see it.
Let's see the progress. Super Bowl.
Super Bowl abs. Yeah, Super Bowl abs.
It's on. They're loading.
I'm going to lose so much fat right in front of your face. I thought you were going to a basketball place.
I've been working hard. So you're not going to go there and not go to the gym? No, I'm going to go to both.
Oh, got it. Once football's over, I'm back, baby.
In your fucking face. I'm going to lose more weight than you could even imagine.
I think you, if you just go to the basketball thing, you'll lose weight. That happened.
Yeah, it did happen, and then I stopped going, and then I shaved my face like a fucking idiot. You should get on the Peloton with me and Hank.
We're bringing back Bunza Anarchy. Every Monday night.
I get bored on the bike. Every Monday night, if you're trying to beat Hank.
I feel like you'd like what Mincy does. Just put on a grateful dead show.
No, that's the worst person to bring up about losing weight. No, but he has actually lost a good amount of weight.
But he just gets on the bike and listens to shows. Yeah.
I'm going to get back in shape. I'm going to match.
I'm going to match. Let's go.
Max. Max, just this picture, right? We're at the Super Bowl.

The Eagles just won.

I won my future.

Your team won, and we rip each other's shirts off.

And we just have fucking sick bods.

I love that.

So, I actually have...

Ever rip another man's shirt off?

Just to show off the bods?

That's men, baby.

Yeah, that is.

That's guy stuff.

There's a bunch of liver supplements that have been on sale recently. Oh, interesting.
Yeah, it's a coincidence. We could just rip those for the whole bunch.
Listen, I will, Billy, I will accept one supplement that you think is best for my health. I will take on January 2nd.
Perfect. Or 3rd, because January 2nd is a Monday.
I actually went to the gym at 1230 last night because I had the same anxiety that I'm like, I saw a video of myself. I'm like, I really need to get back in the gym.
It's actually, the worst is that I shaved. I'm fat.
I'm really fat. I realize how fat I am, but it's also not diet season yet.
I actually don't think you're that fat. I don't think you're that fat at all.
I think we live in a world where there's cameras everywhere, and every bad angle gets magnified by like 5,000%. I really don't think you're that.
I've seen you way fatter. Stop enabling him, Pierce.
No, I've seen Big Cat way fatter. I have been fatter.
You've been way, way, way fatter than this. That's irrelevant to the conversation.
But if he's fat, I'm fat. Really, really fucking fat.
He's not fat right now. I need to lose like 15 pounds so that my this, this.
Yeah. Also, quick update on my son waking up at 4.30 in the morning, wake me up.
We started doing this thing where it's a red light when he's sleeping and then it turns to green at 7 a.m. So he's not allowed to come out of his room at 7 a.m.
he's just come out of his room at 6 a.m. to tell me that it's still a red light and we got to go back to his room so that doesn't really fix that doesn't work yeah he's just like hey dad it's still red we got it we got to stay in bed i'm like but you're fucking standing right next to me dude so he's found a loophole in that.
Billy. Last weekend, my phone broke.
I was trying to make it to Christmas before getting a new one. But the screen shattered, so I couldn't get any information off of it.
And transferring, like in our job, we tend to use tons of images, screenshots, cutting up different things. I have 35 gigabytes of photos, so i can't get a good transfer or backup because it ends up just getting clogged up on all the photos so i just can't i have to like resell my passwords and do all that have you heard of the cloud yeah the cloud is yes but the cloud you don't trust it doesn't upload all the time i'm with Billy.
I don't trust the cloud either.

I'm anti-cloud.

I trust the cloud.

I've had the cloud on,

but for some reason it says

there's no iCloud backup

because there's so many goddamn photos.

So from our perspective,

Billy, just explain what happened.

I just want to say

he's been very communicative

with me and PFT telling us,

but it was very funny

because on Saturday night

he DM'd both of us saying,

my phone is broken.

And then on Sunday, he texted me and Pft at 1204 and said phone broken going to at&t won't make 1 p.m games then he texted us at 4 14 and said leaving house getting new phone getting into office by six we just were laughing it's like what happened between noon and four i went to the jets were playing yeah that's true well yeah i was watching jesse but i went to the at&t store at&t didn't have any phones then i had to go to the apple store ah that makes sense then i had to go i went to best buy at one point yeah we were sitting there like there's a gap there's a five hour gap here but that makes sense that makes perfect sense so i'm happy there's nothing worse than having to deal with phone issues uh cloud is cloud is clutch cloud is clutch i've i've i lost in 2000 like probably when i was closer to your age i had a similar situation lost all my phone and all my pictures devastating and then i adopted the cloud and and really committed to it but how many times do you do a full backup it doesn't automatically like if you have there's ways you can set it up okay i i literally had the same thing happen to you and i still sometimes like i basically had a year's worth of like shit that i lost that like i still am like fuck i wish i had that stuff and so i i really looked into the cloud and made sure that it was backed up had a lot of storage cloud is clutch when you when you when you lose everything like when you break it and then it turns back on it all comes back you're you're like, thank fucking God. Yeah.
And you just basically just plug it in your cloud and your new phone is just set up right away. Yeah.
All the settings and everything. Damn.
Yeah. I still don't trust the cloud.
Jake, finish us off. I had a bad dream the other day.
Oh, no. It was Arizona Bowl game day and I was heading there and I was stuck in traffic.
I thought I was going to be late for the broadcast. This is what Peter King does.
Hit the bike lane. Yeah.
Just run over some people. So I'm going to ensure that's not the case next week.
It was never like preseason. It was like a Chargers game.
He was going to a Chargers camp. He was doing his summer camp tour, going to the Chargers game, and he goes, look at all this traffic.
Fortunately, I figured I had a way to get around it, and it's just a picture of him driving just through the bike lane lane he's the guy that's the asshole that's cutting around all the traffic just by using the bike lane and then man if there's one group of people you don't want to piss off online it's probably still like Beyonce fans but second is bicyclists and so bicyclists just cook Peter King yeah of course Peter King wouldn't know what a bike lane looks like no absolutely not absolutely not. You seen that guy? No.
Hey, listen, I'm working.

Get on the Peloton, big cat.

Puns of anarchy.

I might have to.

I might have to.

Okay.

Hank, so we're going to do numbers.

There will be numbers.

We're going to actually record.

No spoilers.

We're going to record the lottery ball machine for Monday's show and Friday's show.

And we're not going to do one on Wednesday, but you get one on January 1st. Hank, have you ever gotten this? Nope.
Okay. I also have a twist if you don't get it, because I don't really want to take your money.
I get more satisfaction out of you being just terrible at this. But I have a twist if you want to hear it.
28. I have a twist.
Let's cross that bridge when we get there. Okay.
I mean, we've crossed not going to get it oh we're at the bridge yeah no we're not 0.0 chance 17 28 can i have a number please no give me a number no what was your last number 18 also i mean what was your number last time uh i think it was what was it maggie 29, 29. All right, I'll do 29.

Sebastian has 39.

Wait, what do I have, 28?

You have 28, I have 29.

Billy's got 69.

Jake?

I have 18.

Sebastian has 39.

I have 20.

Wait, what are you having?

28.

Oh, I just saw on I was 82.

10.

Mitch Trubisky, 10 God.

All right, everyone have a happy Merry Christmas.

Second time.

Love you guys.

See everyone on Sunday night.

Love you guys.

Watch out pray. Take me Thank you.
Take on me I'll be gone After all I want to Take on me Take on me Take on me Take on me Oh, please On the alien On the alien

Routing to me

So, so Thank you.