SB Champ Andrew Whitworth, 1 Question With Chad Henne, Hot Seat/Cool Throne + Guys On Chicks

SB Champ Andrew Whitworth, 1 Question With Chad Henne, Hot Seat/Cool Throne + Guys On Chicks

December 21, 2022 1h 54m Explicit

We start with some MNF recap and clean up from Sunday (00:02:10-00:20:01). Jalen Hurts may be injured but Max is now a shoulder doctor. (00:20:01-00:27:19) Hot Seat/Cool Throne including the sordid tale of Chiefaholic (00:27:19-00:51:37) . SB Champ Andrew Whitworth joins the show to talk about his first year in retirement, winning the Super Bowl, TNF and tons more (00:51:37-01:28:39). 1 question with a Quarterback with Chad Henne (01:28:39-01:36:22). We finish the show with Guys on Chicks (01:36:22-01:51:47).


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Thursday Night Football coming up. He's on Amazon Prime.
We have one question with a quarterback with Chad Henney. Some Monday Night Football recap.
Some Sunday cleanup. Hot seat, cool thrown.
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Oh, we're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue. It's Take, presented by Barstool Sports Welcome to Part of My Take.
Today is Wednesday, December 21st, and I'm worried that the Packers might run the table. No, that's not going to happen.
That's not going to happen. They're a very flawed football team.

We saw some of their flaws last night.

They just happen to be better than the Los Angeles Rams,

who stink in the cold weather anyways and then found themselves in a tough situation.

When you have Baker with, like, two days to study the playbook,

there's not enough tape on him in Sean McVay's system.

Now LaFleur was able to look at a few things.

But my big takeaway from this game, Big Cat, is fuck you to Matt LaFleur. Now you go for it on fourth down inside the tent.
Now is when you do it. And now is when you don't score.
You could have scored a touchdown. We didn't bully him.
But he still sounded firm last time we talked to him. And he said, no, I remain resolute now more it was the right decision you score a touchdown you get the over for the people you kick a field goal you get the over three and a half field goals for the people instead uh he goes for it on fourth down and he just gets a first down and then he goes out for the rest of the game the one inch uh yeah he there was basically yeah one yard there that he could get the first down not the touchdown Not fun way to end Monday Night Football for the people.
Do you promise me that the Packers aren't going to run the table? I promise you. They've got a really tough schedule.
They've got the Dolphins. They've got the Lions.
And Aaron Rodgers knew after the game when they were interviewing them, they're like, well, you're playing a bunch of above 500 teams. He goes, well, one of them is going I'm going to do my stupid Southern accent, and one of them is exactly 500.

Yep, the Lions being that.

Yeah, they play the Dolphins, the Vikings, then the Lions.

I'm just, this guy's never, yeah, Hank just looked up.

He's like, ooh, they could win all those games.

Nah.

Is Hank's going to put them in a hungry?

Actually, could you put them in a hungry dog, please, for me?

Because then there's no chance.

Sure.

Yeah.

What Hank's doing right now is just trying to get the heat off himself. He's still feeling it from Sunday night.
Are you still feeling it, Hank? Yeah. I mean, as well you should.
That's something that you're going to have a Sean McVay-like memory of that play for the rest of your life. And I feel lucky because I get to have the Sean McVay-like photographic memory of Hank having to watch that for the rest of my life.
Yeah. People really did enjoy watching your misery.
That is what we do best. We do misery best.
That's a fact. Was it the Packers tried to run a lateral play last night too? Oh, no, it was the Rams.
The Rams tried to run it, right? On an interception. Yeah, they tried to do the lateral play, and then everyone's being like, hey, laterals aren't going to work.
Rugby is not going to work. i think what we're seeing is that teams are going to do it no matter what so we should educate them as to how to lateral safely so that way they can have fun and practice safe later yes because abstinence is clearly not going to be a viable option here it's hard not to throw the like when you're about to get tackled and there's a bunch of your teammates right behind you it it's hard not to be like, hey, here, take it.
It's just nature. It's human – the human body wants to ladder it.
Right, exactly. You can't tell it not to.
And when it works, it's the coolest thing ever. Yes.
It truly is. I mean, Boise State – I'm trying to think.
Didn't – did Randy Moss do it once? Yeah, Randy Moss did. The Chiefs have done it a few times.
Yep. Travis Kelsey still looks to do it two, three times a season.
Yep. When he catches he catches a ball like 30 yards downfield.
The Chiefs would be the first team that would be able to incorporate and do it really, really well. And actually pull it off as a scripted play.
But, yeah, that Monday Night Football game, I don't know. I feel like this season, the primetime games, I think it's just because they were just wrong about a lot of teams.
But watching that Packers-Rams game, it feels like there's nothing at stake. This game was supposed to be incredible, and it's not.
But then on the flip side, and we'll talk about it with Andrew Whitworth, Jets-Jags Thursday night will be incredible because that is actually a playoff implications game that'll be yeah that'll

be actually a strangely fun game it might not be a great game to watch but it's going to have at least the implication of playoff seating behind it so speaking of that i wanted to throw out a hypothetical for you guys just a fun little hypothetical uh if you were starting a franchise today and salary matters and age matters, what order would you draft the quarterbacks? Salary matters, age matters. Like every quarterback in the NFL? Every quarterback in the NFL.
All right, so it's interesting that you're asking me that question right now because I've been on record saying I would take Justin Fields over Trevor Lawrence. No, no, no.
And the fact that they're so young. I think Trevor Lawrence right now, I'm being honest, would be ahead of him.
I'm just wondering how high up Trevor Lawrence would be. I would.
That's the question. Because this isn't a Justin Fields question.
I do think that Trevor Lawrence has shown more this year in terms of passing and how much better he's gotten versus Justin Fields, who I still am very high on. He is the guy.
But Trevor Lawrence, I think, goes ahead of Justin Fields right now. But it's more how high does Trevor Lawrence actually go? I actually do disagree with you, though.
I would take Justin Fields over Trevor Lawrence because I think that you can get better as a passer in the nfl we've seen a couple guys do weapons around it's possible if you have good coaching around you you've got good weapons you can improve we can design an offense that works with your skill set i would rather have justin fields and trevor lawrence but where would where would your i would it's it's a it's a mahomes allen i would still go mahomes allen burrow yep burrow probably number one overall, right? Contract. Given contract situation.
You're going to have to pay him, but you're not paying him now. Yep.
Herbert. Herbert.
He's up there. Lamar is up there.
But that's a big contract. Heineke.
He's cheap. Like, is Trevor Lawrence? Jalen Hurts is up there, too.
Yep. Is Trevor Lawrence top seven? I'd say he's top ten.
He might be top seven. I think he's top.
just something that popped in my head like because we're gearing up for this thursday night game i saw i'm just thinking like like just contracts matter a lot i think he might be top seven mike white what are you gonna say we uh factor in durability yeah we are go ahead who's trevor lawrence only just feels isn't durable just you know a lot of workload yeah Yeah. We are.
Go ahead. Who's Trevor Lawrence? Only Justin Fields isn't terrible.
Just, you know, a lot of workload. Yeah, yeah.
That's true. Okay.
I just, you know, I would be curious what people would think. Tua? This is a tough spot for me.
Big Cat. Pop quiz.
Pop quiz. Yeah, Tua.
Tua won. Tua won.
Pop quiz, because we have to be fair. Ahead of Trevor.
Oh, yeah. We're nothing if not fair and completely unbiased on this show.
Do you know what the Miami Dolphins point differential is this year? Oh, it's not good, is it? Because they've been blown out recently. It's one.
Oh. It's one.
That's crazy, because I feel like they did blow out a few teams earlier. Yeah, but the Vikings, I think they, what are they, back to like two now? Yeah.
I think the Vikings climbed. The Vikings have twice as good a point differential as the Dolphins do.
Damn. Yeah, it does.
It will be very interesting to see what happens on Sunday with the Dolphins and the Packers because if the Packers somehow win that game, I do think they're going to run the table. And then the Dolphins are in full-on panic mode.
Mike McDaniel, it's fun when it's going fun. And four-game losing streak is a little different.
Yeah, the Packers are clearly in the new call-me-maybe division that they debuted last night on ESPN, which I think is the worst of the bunch. Oh, so bad.
Now it's sniffing around, number one. Number two is still in the hunt.
I like in the hunt. In the hunt is classic.
Some people got sick of it. It was a miracle that they pulled sniffing around out of their back pocket.
You had that laying around this whole time and you weren't using it. And then there's loitering, which I think is behind in the hunt.
And then call me maybe, which is a distant, distant fourth. Yes.
The Packers are – I'd say this. The Packers are in the primed to make a run position.
Yeah. So, like, if they go down to Miami, they win this game, then, yeah, watch out.
The Packers, they might run the table. I don't think they're going to win this game.
I hope you're right. It's my brain is riddled with just Aaron Rodgers somehow coming back from the dead.
He owns you. And last night was one of those nights where I was like, I don't think the Rams are good.
I very much acknowledge that. But it still looked like they were kind of clicking a little bit.
Yeah. And Christian Watson is all of a sudden very, very good.
And everything makes me nervous. What were you going to say, Billy? This was going to be for my hot seat, but Stafford said that he's not retiring.

He's not retiring.

On his wife's podcast.

His wife has a podcast.

So that just shakes up the whole sort of ram stuff.

Would you be able to turn down an invitation to go on your wife's podcast?

I don't think so.

Probably not, right?

Yeah, you have to go.

You're just recurring guests anytime.

Do you think that she writes notes down before?

Is she writing notes like interview questions? Like during dinner, he fucks up with his table manners, and he's setting the table, and he puts the fork on the wrong side. She makes a quick note of that.
Okay, we're going to talk about that later. Or just be like, yeah, when you said last week that you were going to take the kids to the park, and you didn't, what happened there? Yeah.
Hey, Matt, real quick, we're're gonna take a quick pause from our sponsor they want to sponsor this segment uh this is brought to you by roman swipes matt yeah do you want to last longer matt uh that's i mean i'm happy that he's not retiring because he's fun quarterback to play to watch it is interesting what's going to happen with the rams but then again you think about it it's like well matt stafford's used to being on a bad team so he'll be fine yeah like he'll be able to put up numbers he'll be good and they might not be good but he'll be good he's been there before yeah like it's actually probably refreshing where he's like no expectations he's probably just waiting for cooper cup to get back yeah and he's like okay i'll play with cooper i can make things happen. Yeah, his spinal contusion was actually just a spidey sense that Cooper Cup's not out on the field.
He's like, I can't play like this. He just misses his friend.
He's just lonely. And Ben Skoranek, I guess if you squint your eyes and have a couple shots of Jack Daniels, he kind of looks like Cooper Cup a little bit.
Ben Skoranek from? Not scoring touchdowns because I keep – Ben Skoranek is going to be my guy that I have to continue to bet on

to score a touchdown because Baker loved him so much.

That first time that they played together,

I just have to keep betting on the guy.

It's never going to happen.

The answer is Notre Dame.

But I say that because I don't know if you saw Ravel tweeted

and, like, complained.

He was like, this is the problem with the transfer portal.

Ben Skoranek played three years at Northwestern and everyone calls him a Notre Dame wide receiver. We don't get the credit for him.
I don't follow Darren Revelle. It was quite the complaint.
It's so unfair that they don't say Northwestern. I don't need to follow him.
I've got somebody that takes Darren Revelle's best stuff that he puts out. Big Cat's actually you yeah big cat's actually my guy that does that he just tells me yeah you just did it that's a pretty good that's a pretty fucking hilarious on brand revell tweet to be like northwestern's not getting the publicity they deserve it is yeah it should have been yeah this this guy that still has yet to score a touchdown should get credit for going to northwest because usually whenever like a guy scores and they're like from Dame, I'm like, oh my God, Notre Dame's back.

Yeah.

They just, a guy on that team from a few years ago scored a touchdown in the NFL this Sunday.

Oh, speaking of guys from the Big Ten that are in media, Adam Schefter, credit to Adam

Schefter.

Yes.

Friendship is back.

Yes.

Adam Schefter sent us a very lovely assortment of cookies.

Did you get yours, Hank?

I gave him your address.

Damn.

You did move.

But you're not going to be able to do that. Adam Schefter sent us a very lovely assortment of cookies.
Did you get yours, Hank? I gave him your address. Damn.
You did move. But yeah, PFT and I got them.
It's beautiful. I had a dark chocolate and peanut butter cookie last night.
Do you know what they tasted like? They tasted like I want to defend Schefter when he tweets something stupid. That's what they tasted like.
100%. Like we are now firmly in his pocket.
Yeah, like he got me cookies. I love cookies.
Next time he does something dumb, I'm going to be thinking of cookies. Schefter not dumb.
Great guy. Cookies.
It worked. Florio is so mad right now.
Dude, send us something. You just send us your fucking book.
You try to make us read. That actually makes us like you less.
Yeah, way less. Yeah, send us a gift.
Bribe me. We are open for bribes.
I'm basically FIFA. Yeah, we are officially open for bribes at all times.
Jake has just entered. He was doing the coaches' meetings for the Barstool Arizona Bowl, which, give us a recap.
How'd it go? Who'd you talk to? Oh, no. Are you nervous? He's having a problem.
He's having a problem. He's having a problem.
We also just talked about the Dolphins having a point differential of one. Yeah.
Yeah. Not great.
Not great. Do you give them the same treatment as the Vikings? Well, no.
That's how I brought it up. I was like, we do talk about the Vikings like that.
What should we say about these Miami Dolphins? Because those Miami Dolphins would stomp the shit out of the Vikings. These Miami Dolphins might lose to the Packers.
Vikings fans will get very upset at you because the Vikings beat the Dolphins even though it was Skyler Thompson. Yeah.
That's because we beat the Dolphins. That's because, yeah.
The meetings were great. Both teams were very excited for the Arizona Bowl happening on next Friday, December 30th, 4.30 Eastern time.
Let's go. Yeah.
I've seen Jake. He is prepped.
He's prepping so hard. He just has the roster sheets in front of him at all times.
Yep. So you feel confident? Who sounded more confident? Both.
I i don't know i really didn't get a vibe there i think uh it's awkward because it's not a normal game week right they usually have their five day warm-ups and here it's like there's 15 days to kill yeah so it's a little bit different isn't the blizzard fucking up wyoming yeah i think brandon Brandon said he was stuck out there. Yeah.
Also, shout out the Wyoming social team. They did fastest two minutes.
They've been doing spinoffs of like tons of Barstool segments. I love it.
So there's a lot of excitement. They're fully embracing it.
So it's going to be hard. I mean, I love matching, but anyone, we were just talking about bribes.
If you just start basically sucking our dick publicly on Twitter, it's going to be hard for me not to root for wyoming yeah it's very we're very very easy to get to yeah we'll prep i'm sure we'll talk about the game next week when we're out there but uh there's tons of great storylines you know like schools should just give us honorary degrees and then we will say nothing but good things yes about your football purdue basketball program purdue give me a fucking uh science degree i tweeted out that uh wy's without their top four running backs. So people were like, does Billy still have eligibility? Ooh, Billy.
Oh, man. Could you imagine if the barstool, if we bought a bowl game and one of the stipulations was you have to roster at least five content employees? Dude, Frank the Tank at fullback.
How incredible. Dude, fullback, nose guard.
If he just fucking leans on him. Yeah.
Take up space. Billy, what do you think your stat line would be? At running back? Yeah.
I think if you threw me in on some short yard stuff, I might be able to figure something out. God damn it, I would love to see that.
Billy's training for the mascot game in a couple years. Yeah, that's true.
Bloopy, you're getting fucked up. Did you see Blooper come at Billy? Yeah.
He comes at everyone. The guy's addicted to violence on Twitter.
It's disgusting. It was bad.
Elon should take care of that. He just came at me because I did shave for advisors, and I took one picture that made my mustache look good, and then I took a picture with Andrew Whitworth, and they posted it, and I have fortunes.
Fortun chins. Look at the picture.
Yep, Hank's looking at it right now. Hank, you can't talk.
You're too much of a coward to shave your beard. I won't say that you look really fat then.
Okay. Hank's getting slim.
Hank, I could give you one of my chins. You need one.
I'll give you one. Yeah, you got six to seven.
Oh, my God. There it is.
Give it to me. It's like when people give their family members a kidney transplant because they match up to make you feel better.
Yeah, this would be like the first cross-podcast chin transplant. I have more than enough to spare.
Everyone can get a chin. I'm like, Oprah, you get a chin, you get a chin, you get a chin, because that was a bad picture of me.
of me and it's not i was worried about that i had like a moment where i said to myself oh i don't look so bad with my face shaved and then that happened i was like yep i look just as bad as i thought i did because i am fat but you know what it's bulking season right now get big i've just been eating candy bars every night for the last like three weeks and it's a problem it's big it's mass you mass. It's hibernation season.
Yeah, jumpsuit January. Are you actually going to do jumpsuit January? I will do jumpsuit January.
I'm very excited about jumpsuit January. I was thinking about that last week because I bought myself a new jumpsuit, and I get very excited at the start of jumpsuit January.
I'm going to be consistent with what I've been saying. I'm going to wear jumpsuits when I want to wear jumpsuits because Jumpsuit January is about being comfortable.
So if I don't wear one one day, it's just because I needed to wear something else and I'm not comfortable. I'm always comfortable wearing jumpsuits.
If it were up to me, I would never wear anything but jumpsuits on the outside if it's below a certain degree. I've got two seasons.
There's sweatpants season, then there's short season. And that's it.
So January, I'm pumped, man. I'm very excited.
All right, I'll buy some new jumpsuits. Yeah, I just always have the problem with I lose everything in my pockets all January long.
Yeah, that's why you get the one with zippers on it. Yeah, I know.
Get zippers. You can also put a fanny pack in there.
Or I've noticed a lot of people wearing the over-the-shoulder chest strap. That's like a new thing.
The Louis bag? Yeah. I might get a Louis bag.
Send us some jumpsuits, people. Yeah,uits people yeah that's actually open for business so we were saying like if you want to bribe us to root for your school give us an honorary degree that's a good way to do it but maybe a cheaper more financially sound way to do it would just be to like send us a bunch of your jumpsuits that you have laying around yes yes i'm in for it uh what else we got any other cleanup for sunday uh yeah There's Max Jalen hurts.
Oh yeah. There was a moment on, on, uh,

Oh, yeah. There was a moment on Tuesday, Monday afternoon where the line swung drastically towards the Dallas Cowboys.
And I checked Twitter and the first thing I saw on Twitter was some guy saying that Jalen Hurts had a broken collarbone and would be out for the season. That guy, I think, just bought a blue checkmark.
I don't think that guy was legit. It was scary, and there were a lot of people talking about what's going to happen.
Then Shefty reported that he's got a sprained shoulder. We don't know which shoulder is it.
Is it the throwing or the non-throwing? I saw both. It's the non-throwing shoulder.
Are we sure? Because I saw both. He also played the whole fourth quarter and was throwing balls.
He had better numbers with the sprained shoulder than he did before it. I do kind of think that it's the Eagles being like, well, the Cowboys just lost.
We have to win one game for the rest. I think that if this game, if the Cowboys hadn't lost the Jaguars, I think Jalen Hurts would be playing in this game.
That's what I feel like. It's one of those situations

why potentially having to maybe

play them a third time in the playoffs,

why give them anything,

take care of business against the Saints the

week after, let Jalen Hurts

get healthy if he's just a little dinged

up, and also, Gardner

Minshew is going to win this game.

Yeah, this is the perfect Gardner Minshew game.

Christmas Eve, Mike Leach just

passed away. Gardner Minshew's the perfect

backup quarterback to come in, win one game. He's going to win this game.
This is the perfect Gardner Minshew game. Christmas Eve.
Mike Leach. Mike Leach just passed away.
Gardner Minshew is the perfect backup quarterback to come in and win one game. He's going to be so fired up.
Gardner Minshew gets me fired up. I feel like I'm more excited.
I feel like when they show the dad in the stands when Brock Purdy was watching, his dad was watching him play last weekend. When Gardner does something good in an NFL game, I feel like I'm the father on the sidelines just like crying out of just pure testosterone facts uh Max I did task you with uh something before I left yesterday because I was freaking out I saw the news I was like oh my god he broke his collarbone this is like everything but you know I've I need this future to hit to get even this year uh Max I told you what tell you? Do you want to tell everyone what I told you?

That I had to become an expert on shoulder injuries.

Yep.

And so what did you find?

Put the camera on yourself, Max.

I said that he has to learn.

I said, take these 24 hours, drop everything,

and basically go to medical school for shoulder injuries.

The number one thing I looked up right after you told me this

was past quarterbacks with shoulder injuries.

Okay.

And I would like you to guess the first quarterback.

Drew Brees.

Incorrect.

Ben Roethlisberger.

Oh, okay.

Ben Roethlisberger was the first one that came out.

Drew Brees was ribs.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

It's fine.

It's a sprained shoulder.

People sprain their shoulders all the time.

One to three weeks.

One to three weeks?

One to three weeks.

Take the three weeks. Give you the fourth.
Take the bye from the first week of the playoffs. What about rust? Now we got a rust situation.
Yeah, now we got a big-time rust situation. We're going to have a rust situation, but it's fine.
That's the main thing. The main thing now is that he threw a 68-yard dime to A.J.
Brown after the injury occurred. That's true.
It's adrenaline, though. If so facto, no.
That's adrenaline. There's no adrenaline against the Bears.
No adrenaline against the Bears. Whoa.
Have you seen the Revenant? Zero. Zero.
Zero. Dirty team.
And dirty team. I said that this Bears-Eagles game was going to fuck me some way, and I didn't think it was going to be this after the fact.
I thought that we were fine and then I see all this happen. The way you say it's fine makes me so much more nervous.
This is just how I talk about the Eagles for anything. It is true.
Say it again. You get a tinge of anger.
It's fine. You don't sound fine.
Well, I have another thing. I have one more thing.
A shoulder thing? I'm sick of... No, this is just a Jalen Hurts thing.
I'm sick of people online getting all pissed off that Jalen Hurts runs. Because that's the number one thing is that, oh, this is what happens when you have a running quarterback.
They're just going to get hurt. They're just going to get hurt.
That's what makes Jalen Hurts good. Jalen Hurts is good because he can throw the ball and because he can run.
And if you don't run, then you don't get the good parts of Jalen Hurts. So I'm sick of people getting mad about that.
That's a fact because the the Eagles offense is dynamic partly because of his running ability. Correct.
And what he's able to do with his feet. So you can't just be like, well, don't run.
Okay, that's a totally different offense. Agreed.
Okay. That's the one thing I had to add.
Okay, here's one thing I'll add. And it's fine.
And also I want to add for Max. And it's fine.
It's fine. Here's one thing I'll add.
There was one play that scared Jordan Mailata yesterday when he's watching Jalen Hurts on Sunday. He's watching his quarterback run all game.
There's only one play that scared him. He just laid there, Mailata said.
I ran over and said, stay down. He said, pick me the fuck up.
And I said, yes, sir, and just picked him back up and he went back in the game. I love it.
I love it. So so I think Jalen Hurts you'd rather have a sprain than you would have a labrum or rotator cuff that's the thing the thing when they say it's a sprain that encompasses all the ligaments of the shoulder whereas like if you sprain your ankle there's certain ligaments they think if it's high or low sprain's like a little too gray billy it could be like an ac joint billy billy billy billy billy billy billy billy billy billy billy sound like uh let me see billy why don't you why don't you pull up a seat let me take in medical school real quick billy the labrum is not a tendon the labrum is not a ligament the labrum is a protective thing that's around your socket joint the labrum if you if you have a labrum injury that will keep popping out and dislocating it until you get it surgically repaired.
That's what Andrew Luck had. That's what Drew Brees had.
That's what I have. That's what Jake has.
That's what I had in this shoulder and currently still do in this shoulder. I also have it.
Okay, so then you should know that that's not... Yeah, you're going after the terminology.
No, Billy, you're talking about AC joint. He's got an AC joint.
Yeah, it could be any of those. He's got an AC joint, which could heal itself.
It could get back to being healthy enough to play in the course of the next couple weeks. If it's a labrum, then it's going to be just bad news for the rest of the year.
It's confirmed AC joint. Confirmed? Confirmed? Confirmed by the tweets that I saw.
By me. And by me, too.
By me right now. I will confirm.
It could also be like a rotator cuff thing, which is a total... But it's the AC joint.
Rotator cuff is muscles. Those are muscular tears.
Right. But that all encompasses that sprain umbrella term.
Maybe you. Maybe when you say...
I think you just interchanged the word sprain with boo-boo. Or stinger.
Yeah, people say stinger, and it's like,

what the fuck does that mean?

Oh, it's a sprain, but it could be like something's totally torn.

You're saying that you're just using it like the term nicked up.

Or he's just banged up.

He's shaken up.

He's got cow bones.

He's shaking up.

I'm just saying, like, sprain makes it sound a lot more bad than it is.

So I think we've established that Billy does not know the shoulder.

I don't know shoulder. No, we have a shoulder doctor here.
His name is Max. Billy, you don't know ball and socket.
Yeah, sure. That's a fact.
Also, coming out of that game, Justin Fields said to reporters today, I just felt a 300-pound guy come on my back. Hey, yo.
That was a real quote. Pause.
Pause. Fucking A.
Fucking a man. Resume.
Fucking a man. That's just how it goes sometimes.
Yeah. Be like that.
It do be like that sometimes. It do be like that.
Yeah. It absolutely do be like that.
All right. Let's do some hot seat, cool throne, and then we'll get to our interview with Andrew Whitworth.
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I have a couple hot seats if that's all right. Hank, you can do as many or as little as you want.
Awesome. My first one is Willie McGinnis.
Yeah. Okay.
Let's talk about that. Let's keep coming for Patriots.
Or buy the Patriots. Buy the Patriots.
Yeah. Depending on how you look at it.
Video, apparently it was a couple months ago when it happened. It came out right after the Patriots game, so it seemed like it was a reaction to the loss.
But it was a video from a few months ago. Timing was interesting, you're right.
Oh, it was from a few months ago? Yeah, it was in L.A. Illegal hands to the face by Willie? Him and three guys just beating the fuck out of someone in a restaurant.
At one point, he took out a wine bottle and was hitting the guy in the head with it. Not a good look for Willie.
No. No, it wasn't.
I don't know what happened before that incident. It certainly seemed like they were all very upset with this one particular gentleman for some reason.
And, uh, and they, they let him know that. It was, it felt like he did something very, I'm not victim shaming.
Felt like that guy did something very bad to have Willie McGinnis and all those guys come and jump him in the middle of a restaurant. Willie's wrong, but I would love to get the backstory and shout out that guy for having an iron an iron jaw.
The fact that he was standing at the end of that was incredible. Absolutely incredible.
But yeah, he started hitting him with the bottle and it kind of stuck the bottle away like no one was going to see it. And it was like, dude, the whole thing's on camera.
He was hitting him, yeah, like multiple times in the face with the bottle. Underhanded, right? Yeah.
He was doing like an underhanded wine bottle hit, which I haven't seen before. And then I think after the third hit, he realized what he was doing, and he just calmly laid the bottle on the chair, walked away.
What, Billy? In his defense, it was an Italian restaurant. So there's just wine bottles everywhere? They shouldn't have put the wine bottles out? No, no.
Sometimes that happens in mob that's true probably just like yeah you're right oh so no billy's society is to blame yes for putting these notions of violence about what happens inside italian restaurants into people's brains yes like you remember what happened to billy bats exactly that's that so you walk into a bar and you just kind of go back into that zone yeah tough, tough look. Tough look for Willie.
My other hot seat is Tom Izzo. Oh, okay.
Is he overrated? He is overrated, but I'm curious to see where you guys stand on this. I feel like I know, but a video came out of him eating popcorn and dropping a popcorn on the floor and then just picking it up and continuing to eat it.
That's fine. I just sent it if you guys want to deliberate.
That's a perfectly normal thing. I don't even abide by the five-second rule when it comes to popcorn.
Are they outside? Because if they're outside, that's... No, it's in a gym.
Oh, that's fine. Okay, Tom Izzo eating popcorn, dropping it, totally fine.
Yeah, it's completely fine. I do this all the time.
It actually gives more seasoning to the popcorn.

Yeah, the majority of my meals are off the ground.

So, totally fine.

Fair play by Tom Izzo.

If it was a sidewalk, then I'd have a conversation.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, he's fine.

Good job, Tom Izzo.

Oh, wait a second.

What?

I'm an idiot.

What?

Videos from 2017.

Oh, wow.

You got duped.

What was the reason they had to just put it out right now? Yeah, it's going around. I don't know why it's going around now.
Did Michigan State just lose? I'm not really sure. I saw it last night.
I saw it a couple times. Because you might be getting Willie McGinnis on this one here.
So he's definitely not in the hot seat. Okay, my bad.
Cool throne is Messi. Yes.
He put up a picture of the World Cup holding the trophy trophy and stuff and it became the most liked post on social media ever whoa yeah 66 million likes or something it beat out what was it that egg oh i thought it was gonna be the one with ellen and kevin that was twitter yeah it was it was like it was bigger there was a tiktok some random girl at a tiktok was 60 million likes holy shit. It was more than that.
And Salt Bay invaded the field after and was trying to cloud chase and take pictures with everyone. And Messi saw him and literally just ignored him.
It was the worst. Salt Bay is a fucking douchebag.
Not really breaking news, but... He's not even Argentine.
I thought he was at least like... Could you imagine the biggest moment of someone's life and you're trying to grab him by the elbow to be like, come take a picture with me.
Like pouring salt on the trophy. No, it was like when Papa John grabbed Peyton Manning after the Super Bowl.
That's the World Cup version of this. Or I was actually saying it was like if Guy Fieri came up to Patrick Mahomes after he just won the Super Bowl MVP and Patrick Mahomes gave him the cold shoulder, which would never happen because Guy Fieri is a legend.
Yes. Facts.
Okay. Good job.
Thanks. Good job.
Appreciate it. PFT.
My hot seat is Kansas City super fans because I've become quickly obsessed with this story. And I've done a lot of reading about it now we've had our fair share of run-ins with kansas city super fans on this podcast actually this is a serious subject it's a loss i'm gonna take the glass off okay lawyer pft is coming out okay um we had x factor on the podcast a couple years ago to discuss his trials and tribulations um there's another super fan in kansas city named.
Chiefsaholic, he has been mentioned on the show before. Sounds like he's addicted to the Chiefs.
He is addicted. He's got a Chiefs problem.
Yeah. But he's been on this podcast before.
We've talked about him on the show. He's the guy that wears the entire wolf suit to the games with the GoPro on top.
So he goes home and he rewatches the games from his GoPro angle. We've talked about it the show before He goes to every single away game and every single road game He did not show up for the game in Houston On Sunday he goes to every road every road game and he lives tweet He live tweets his adventures about going to the games is also a big grind set guy So he'll be like I just got a job managing two more warehouses.
I'm only 24 do I do it dedication to hard work and always staying on that grind you too can accomplish things that's sick so he's independently well he's independently wealthy and he's been able to attend all these Chiefs games that's a lot of money PFT it's a lot of money and you know what he didn't show up for this game in Houston and everybody's like wait where's Chiefsaholic? He's supposed to be at the tailgate. He does hype videos before

every game where he just puts on his wolf

suit and he sprints up to the camera with a flag

and goes like, let's go Chiefs.

You've probably seen them before.

They're legendary. So he did not

show up. Chiefs Twitter went

into a panic trying to find out where Chiefsaholic

was because he's

always at these games.

Turns out Chiefsaholic

on his way down to Houston

stopped in Bixby oklahoma real quick as one does uh robbed a bank got caught and now he's in i believe federal prison awaiting sentencing and so he's he's on two hundred thousand dollar bail right now and the speculation is that he's been going around the country to every Chiefs game and on his way he drives to all of them and that he's been robbing banks to fund his lifestyle on the road attending these Chiefs games. And so then I started looking back on his Twitter timeline.
He's been spending a lot of money recently, not just on Chiefs games. He's contributed a ton of money to Patrick Mahomes and his charity going to his gala,

purchasing paintings of Patrick Mahomes.

That's some good money washing.

It's some good money washing.

So Chiefs fans are all trying to figure out what's going on.

It's crazy because this guy had rivalries against the other Kansas City super fans that

were there. Some people are saying that this guy was robbing banks wearing the wolf costume.
That's not true. It was a different bank robber that was wearing wolf costumes.
That's the perfect crime. That could be the perfect crime.
I was saying that X Factor, the other Chiefs fan, he's probably behind this whole thing. It stinks to high heaven.
He probably bought a wolf costume, wore it to rob a bank just to frame Chiefsaholic. I mean, this whole story is just so perfect.
I love NFL superfans. I especially love NFL superfans that spend their evenings robbing banks.
That's just the perfect story. The guy's a Chiefsaholic, and it's expensive to go to every single Chiefs game.
Why not rob a bank on the way there? You're always on the move. Yeah.
You're never really in one place. Tough to track.
Imagine them uncovering this, too, where they just pull up the Chiefs schedule from the last 10 years. Yeah.
And they're like, okay, road game in Miami. There was a robberyama like there was like just going through the entire list i would not be where he was i wouldn't be surprised if it was like a las vegas raiders message board poster yep that uncovered all this and then sent that information to the fbi being like i think i've got your guy that's so good theory so he's he's in prison right now i plan on fading the chiefs until they release chiefssaholic from prison.
Yeah. Because if you look at the last seven years, he's been robbing banks going to these games, allegedly.
Seven straight. Seven straight division championships for the Kansas City Chiefs.
He's behind bars. That's not good.
I think, I mean, I love the Kansas City fans in general. Like, their super fan drama that we've just started to scratch the surface of feels like it is like a Breaking Bad type series waiting to be uncovered.
So I did one more step of research. So not only do we have X Factor with everything that he went through legally last year, but we've got this Chiefs-aholic guy.
Also, there's another guy that got banned from going to Chiefs games because he had a fatwa put on him because he might have been involved in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. Whoa.
So this dude, Wahad Moharam, he was the helmet man is what he called himself. He would airbrush his face to be a Kansas City Chiefs helmet.
And he was suspected to be involved in the 1993 bombing. He actually ended up testifying against the blind Sheikh and Abdul Amina, the guys that did the World Trade Center bombing.
They put him in witness protection program, sent him to Kansas City. He couldn't keep his mouth shut, and he became a giant superfan and would attend all these games being like, look at me.
And then somebody saw him and was like, wait a second. The fucking Islamic Republic of iran is out to kill this guy and he's just sitting up in the 400 section every game so the chiefs took away all his shit this is the same thing as remember when we were talking about uh when the indians were making their run they went to the world series they were really good and we're like there's too much there's too much of a spotlight on the indians they're gonna have to change change their name.
Yeah. This is the verbal meme.
Like, you're going to win seven straight division titles. And at what cost, literally all your super fans are going to get exposed for criminal behavior.
Yeah. This dude was literally on a terrorist watch list.
Jesus. And he was one of their super fans.
Jesus fans are wild. I have no choice but to respect it.
Yeah. They go hard.
They go hard. There's another side of the coin where you can bribe us and we will be kind to you.
The other side of that coin is if we're just terrified of you, we will just be very nice to you. Yes.
So I think I'm now scared of Chiefs fans to the point where best fans in football. Yeah.
I'll just say it. Best fans in football.
Most hardcore fans in football. Yeah.
That's a fact. Yeah, most intimidating fans in football from a violent standpoint.

Yes, absolutely.

Wow.

Chiefs fans.

So we'll see what happens with Chiefs-a-holic.

Yeah.

I guess he's probably...

What a story.

Probably going to be in prison for a long time.

I would love to watch a documentary about all the Chiefs fans.

Yeah.

Like, just break them all down.

And then you got a cool throne?

Oh, yeah.

Sorry, that took a lot out of me right there. My cool throne is Ohio University.
Okay. So they are in the Arizona Bowl.
And I've been told from several people that they are supposed to be, like, the biggest party school in the country. I don't know if this is one of those things where every state has a school like that.
If you go to school around it, you just say, oh, we are like Playboy said we're ranked number one. It's a party store or whatever.
Always. But I've heard from several people.
They swear that it's true. I'm going to be down there at the Barstool Bowl with all these guys.
We're going to be doing a pregame show. And for the pregame show, we want to see the people like the Van Wilders of Ohio.
So if you go toio and you think that you are the biggest party guy there or party girl there send us a video uh tag part of my tag tag part of my take in the video and uh send it to us and tell us why you think that you're a big party person why why ohio deserves this label as being the best party school in the world and we're gonna go through them on the pregame show and we're gonna see if that's actually true or not love it love it send it in so excited for this bowl so excited for this bowl all right my hot seat was salt bay so way to go hank um also my chins uh my cool throne is our goat on this podcast kale mccarr best player in hockey did you see the clip last night that was my cool throne sportsmanship they called a tripping against I think it was Barzell from the Islanders and Kale McCarr went up to the ref and was like no I fell down and they took the tripping off he did the thing from the commercial where he goes, Coach, I hit the ball out. Yeah.
Yeah. He literally was tripped.
Or he wasn't tripped. It was like a little bit of contact.
Yeah. Had a flat tire.
Fell down. And then immediately it was like, no, I fell down on my own.
And they were like, no penalty. You think Ronaldo would ever do something like that? Nope.
Absolutely not. Hank, are you ready to come to the good side? Yeah.
You're a messy guy now. Yeah.
All right. Well, we don't accept you.
I don't think we should. Yeah.
That was a suck it off. I like the Instagram post.
Yeah. No, you keep fucking dreaming about Ronnie in his short shorts and winning nothing.
Absolutely nothing. Hank, you've been doing this show for long enough where you should have seen that coming right there.
That was pretty obvious. Yeah.
Is this Wi-Fi? No. Oh, okay.
McCarr, he's the guy that went to what? Yeah. Four straight Stanley Cups? No, no, no.
Cale McCarr is the defenseman for the Avalanche. Okay.
Who's like an insane, insane player who scores goals, who's a great defenseman. He's like a just absolute beast of a hockey player.
Wi-Fi, he's on the Canadiens. Oh, yeah.
Les Abitants. No, Cale McCarr, if you want to sound like a real puck head, when people are like, Connor McDavid's the best, be like, no, Cale McCarr, he does everything.
Yeah, really gets some street cred out there. Bobby Orr.
He's an insane, insane player. Go ahead, Billy.
My hot seat is NIL rules. So there's a new incoming freshman for FIU called Rowdy Beers who has a really good NIL name thing is under NIL rules he cannot have any alcohol sponsors of any sort until he's 21 yeah because of recent updates to the rules so is it going to change for this momentous occasion or you have lobbyists pushing i think you have to have rowdy beer be able to the rowdy beers law i mean yes yeah it's if your name's rowdy or non-alcoholic beer you could partner with yeah yeah but i think he just has to like you have to just let that happen right like that's one of those ones if if we had a working government that made sense they would just be like hey the guy's name is rowdy beer i saw i I saw some of his social media posts.
He seems like a big God guy, like very straight edge almost. There's no chance that if your name's Rowdy Beers that you make it to 21 without drinking, right? No.
You have to. That's spitting in God's face.
Your father's name is Beers. Yes.
He's definitely... Is it beer or beers? I'd be so sick of this.
It's Beers. It's Beers.
It's beers it's dana's cousin hell yeah well no that's what he should do dana should dana should just sponsor him yeah and just pay him just be like this is my this is my mascot yeah dana rowdy beers dana should sponsor him so rowdy beers just promotes dana's instagram and twitter and then dana obviously promotes drinking yeah dana dana's crushing beer this post brought to you by Rowdy Beers. Yeah, right.
And that takes the place of Zillion Beers. Someone did send me a picture.
This just sucks for Dana because he's made a brand and he's got to stick with it. But someone sent me a picture of Dana Beers drinking a water at a bar.
Oh, God. That's tough.
I was like, oh man, delete this. That's real tough.
It's just such a hilarious thing for someone to see Danaana beers in the wild and be like what he's drinking water the fuck this guy all right cool thrown cool thrown is veteran pranks on rookies so drake jackson was uh out to dinner with the other guys on the 49ers and he got the check the end of the night as a rookie he He was like, okay, I'm going to pay it. It was a $322,000 tab, which after a little fun and game from the veterans, turns out was fake.
They had given him a fake rookie check for like a quarter million dollars for one dinner. It wasn't actually that much.
It was $7,500. Eric Armstead cleared that up up on twitter but that's a pretty hilarious prank yes it was it was good prank some people got really mad at it yeah and it was pretty obvious that they weren't going to stick a rookie with 200 000 like that and they also should have they it was uh 7500 they split it amongst them but they were hitting him with like let's get it turns out the waitress really racked it up they said like make like, make it, like, super high, like, over $10K.
What number, if we went out to dinner and we made you stick with it, what would you, like, in Billy football terms, if it was $800, would you be like, what the fuck, guys? Are you going to sell a kidney? $800 I'd take, but I would be doing something for rent. Yeah.
Okay, so we should do that. $1,000.
We should take Billy out, maybe play credit card roulette but billy's also lying about this because the real line that he has is if we're doing dinner on sunday and we say okay everybody do dinner separately yeah then billy pretty much yeah that's true yeah that's true like we're like everyone doesn't get a free dinner then he quits yeah the worst the worst thing for billy is when he texts like on a thursday night and when i go home and then i come back and i at home. And he's like, oh, no.
Does this mean we're all on our own for dinner? So what am I supposed to do? Yeah. I've cleared up my broke boy ways recently.
Oh, have you? I haven't texted for dinner on Sunday night in a while. Think about it.
You do hover. I hover.
You start hovering around 6 p.m. Because in football season, we know dinner's going to happen.

Yeah, just waiting for dinner.

We should actually do it as a test.

If we just stopped doing dinners on Sunday, would Billy show up?

Maybe not.

Pete's off.

Yeah, you'd show up.

You'd show up.

You'd show up.

That's fair.

You'd show up.

But dinner is nice.

What was it last week? When we got our Chinese order and it was like this too much billy's like i'll just take it home it's like that's a fucking team player right there good job billy yeah we need that that's fucking stand up dude all right jake uh my hot seat is chris paul so pat bev our colleague uh he did a six spin move layup against chris paul and he did like the too small thing and they were down by 26 oh okay let's see oh too small that's i like that i hate that celebration i understand why you hate it i hate that so i like that just because pat bev's like you know the tall people think they're so much better they're born on third base think they hit a triple Keep that Keep that same energy. Pat Bev always does.
It doesn't matter. Down by 25, up by 25.
Keep that same energy. Oh, he'll bring that same energy.
By the way, I didn't even mention, I guess I'm back conversing with Kevin Durant because he called me a prick. I haven't been called a prick in a long time.
You a prick, he said. Prick's a good one.
Yeah. It is always just great.
Back on the radar, maybe. Well, it's always great to just tell an athlete the real reason you have your job is because of fans like us.
Yeah, and the media. Don't forget the media.
Yeah. Did you see what Rosillo did on his most recent podcast? What? This is a great spin zone by Rosillo.
He said, is Messi the Chris Paul of soccer? So he's just saying, like, Chris Paul's the goat. Just wait..
Yeah, just wait. Just wait.
He's going to get one at the end, and then you'll all laugh. You'll all see.
Just wait. I'm sure this year will be different.
Yep. Yeah.
My cool throne, live golfers. It looks like they will be eligible for the Masters.
Oh, hell yes. They released a statement saying we don't support – or they said like there's a separate – here it is.

Regrettably, recent actions have divided men's professional golf

by diminishing the virtues of the game and the meaningful legacies of those who built.

Although we are disappointed in these developments,

our focus is to honor the tradition of bringing together

a preeminent field of golfers this coming April.

Wow.

I love it.

I mean, it's good for golf.

It's good for golf. It's going to make for some awkwardings.
Brooke's back at Augusta. Need him to win it.
Yeah. Has he won a Masters? He has not won a Masters.
No green jacket. Two U.S.
Opens, two PGA's? That sounds right. I want to say.
Yeah, it sounds right. But I'm excited about this, too.
The PGA Tour kind of overplayed their hand at the start of all this by saying we're not going to let anybody compete.

All that did was draw more attention to the Live Tour that was leaving.

And, yeah, the Live Tour, it also seems like they've done a great job

at drawing a lot of people to look at where their money comes from

and to be like, hey, that's fucked up.

It doesn't seem like, when I think of Saudi Arabia,

I don't think that most people have a more favorable opinion of their leadership because of the Live Tour over the last couple years, right? No, definitely not. Also, this is great news because it's just more people that Charlie Woods can kick their ass.
That's true. He will just dominate more people.
Is he eligible? He should be. I'll say it.
Charlie Woods could win the Masters right now if he wanted to. If they let him in, he could win it.
You know how Rory McIlroy's dad bet on him when he was like 12 years old? Being like, at one point, this kid is going to win a major championship. Can we do that with Charlie Woods somewhere? Like an all-time future.
I would like that. Will Charlie Woods win a major? I would say.
Yes. Hammer.
Absolutely. Multiple.
Over one and a half majors for majors for Charlie Woods. Over 12 and a half.
Over whatever his dad ends up at. Yep.
Just bet on him to be better than Tiger. Charlie Woods is going to be the greatest.
He's next up. Yep.
We've always said that on this podcast. He's now.
He is now. He's him.
He's truly him. Yeah.
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And now it's like it's actually a great game that has huge implications. Like I never saw this coming.
I'd have to imagine you were dreading this game, and now it's like this is the best game we've had in a while. No doubt about it.
I think when you really look at the schedule, you look at that one, and you go, oh, man, in between Niners, Seahawks, Cowboys, Titans, like, oh, man, got to go to New York. This probably won't be a very good a very good game and you probably thought man I wish we could have had the Monday night game Packers Rams that's going to be an amazing game and you look at like those two records compared to what you think of this game it's crazy how we never know when we go into a season who the teams are really going to be that you're looking to watch yeah so you made a pretty good transition I'd say into NFL media I know at the start everybody was, are you coming back? Are the Cowboys calling you that whole thing? You had to learn real quick the tampering rules and what it's like being on the other side of it.
But I think that's been a pretty good transition. You're a big-time hoodie guy.
You had to start out making a statement and be like, yeah, I'm a hoodie guy. I'm going to be a hoodie guy.
That's kind of your thing that you've got right now. Was that something that you consciously made a decision of? You're like, I'm not going to wear a tie on set.
I've always been a guy that like just wore a hoodie. I mean, I, you know, when I work out and train, I've always got like a, I cut the sleeves off.
I always like a hoodie sleeve, a sleeveless shirt, a sweatshirt or t-shirt on. And I wear a hoodie to everything basically when I work out, when I train and when I go to dinners and stuff, I loved wearing sweaters, like a hoodie and sometimes some kind of just fun jacket, not necessarily a sports coat like what we wear.
And so I was just wearing it, and when we were talking about what I was going to wear on set, they were like, dude, that looks actually really good on you. Why don't you do it the first week? And I did it, and it created like – it's like you have 10 people that say it's awesome and like six people who are like, you should die because you're wearing a hoodie on TV know so every week it's like that yeah you don't respect the game of football you're wearing a hooded sweatshirt i never understood why everyone gets in suits it's like be comfortable be yourself and you are yourself yeah i mean people forget we walk into work every day in basketball shorts and a t-shirt right it's not some professional job where you're you know i always like thought when i put a tie and a suit on like this is fake like this is not who I am I don't know anything about business I'm not some business guy I'm going to go ram heads with somebody in the next 30 minutes yeah so but I'm rocking a tie yeah so you mentioned the Rams Packers game that we watched last night I don't know how to phrase this I don't want you to hurt anyone's feelings in the Rams organization,

but how happy are you that you retired?

That was the greatest retirement of all time.

You retired with the Super Bowl, and then the next year, everything fell apart for the Rams.

Yeah, it's been unbelievable.

The injury stuff and just everything with them.

Yeah.

I mean, it's historic, right?

I mean, it's never been happening in NFL history, really, the loss of injury they've had in the offensive line and everything else. But, yeah, I will say it does make the transition a little easier to be sitting there watching that game and going, all right, it could be 15 degrees.
You're trying to play in a game that's probably meaningless to walk away in your career that way. I mean, that would have been an exhausting way to go out.
So I definitely don't want to undo anything from last year. Yeah, I mean, now if you had lost the Super Bowl would you come back no I really I decided you know kind of in January that I mean there was a multitude of reasons right like you know at the time really some of the young guys that I'd been mentoring that were behind me their contracts were ending Joseph Noteboom some of those guys Brian Allen and so it was like they're gonna have to decide what to do with them I had already kind of somewhat taken a pay cut to stay one more year and I'd made kind of commitment when I moved from Cincinnati to the Rams it was like hey if the money's not what I think justifies what I give to this organization and how I play then I'm not going to continue doing this and so I knew going into that season that we've started to go the opposite direction and I'd kind of given in to be there and i wasn't going to do that again and so i i knew the writing was on the wall that this was going to be a really tough off season where yeah maybe you can force your hand into them trying to give you another contract uh but i didn't feel like that was going to be the way to go so i kind of decided when we made the playoffs i told my wife melissa like hey this is the last ride let's just put everything into this and uh see

what happens so perfect crazy yeah perfect ending well what about like let's put our cards on the table here we've got like you know a week uh two weeks left really before the end of of this year and we get the playoff started up in january um if team goes down a left tackle and they say hey Andrew, I've got $15 million for you to suit up for a playoff stretch.

Let's just say hypothetically it's the lions we hope it's not the lions because we like both their tackles but if if the lions are getting into the playoffs and they're like we need some help on the offensive line are you picking up that call oh man uh y'all gonna get me uh beat up when i get back to the hotel by my wife but uh you know what? I might pick that call. No.
Here's the thing. That's a truthful answer right there.
It'd be very selfish. But when I actually ended my career, we did the research on it.
I'm pretty sure Jeff Saturday is the winningest offensive lineman in NFL history, one of the most games starting of any offensive lineman. And I think i finished like one game or two games behind it

yeah but the only thing i've actually thought about like during this whole time is i'm like

dang would you want to go try to get that record just because it takes a lot to get there right

one you got to have health and then two you got to play on winning franchises for a long time to

be able to get there so it's not like it's something that's going to come up every year

somebody's going to beat so you know that's the only one that still kind of sits there and i'm

like man it'd be fun to be a part of that but i don't think so i'm enjoying what i do well so

So, So it's not like it's something that's going to come up every year somebody's going to beat. So that's the only one that still kind of sits there, and I'm like, man, it'd be fun to be a part of that.
But I don't think so. I'm enjoying what I do.
Well, so Tom Brady calls you in round one of the playoffs. You're playing against the Cowboys.
You know he's going to win that game. He's never lost against the Cowboys.
It's like Mr. 3000 with Bernie Mac.
Find the one win. You know, hey, you know what? Amazon's done December 29th, so technically I'd have a week to go join a team, get in shape.

I don't think so.

What about – I have a dumb rule that I've had as something that we should adopt in sports.

It's been an idea for, I don't know, five years now.

I've always thought that every college football team

and basketball team should get one alumni that gets to play –

they get eligibility. So, like, if Tom Brady retires from the bucks he can go play for michigan for a year if lsu if that rule existed would you play a thousand percent really i went to the lsu i'd been to a college game in forever uh at least you know lsu game i went to lsu bama this year incredible oh man it was an unbelievable game such a cool experience to be down there

i was jacked up hadn't heard colin baton rouge and pregame and so long i was ready to run through a wall all over again and i would i would take an opportunity to go play one college football game yeah oh man i would do that over anything that would be so much fun don't you think that rule should exist like why not that'd be awesome everyone gets one because like think about like Like, it was based on Tebow.

Like, Tebow didn't make it in the nfl after a few years how great would it be if he was able to just play at florida for another 10 years oh dude i mean it would make sports a lot more fun with the contracts at that level it's no different i mean we're playing professional sports so yeah i'll do you one better there should be an alumni game every year for every college So every NFL player could go back. You play in one game, and it's a rivalry game.
So it would be like Alabama versus LSU, and you sell tickets. Instead of the spring game, have an alumni game.
Yeah, alumni game. You give all the money to the players to get them back in there.
Oh, my God. That would be – Yeah, I'm thinking of my time.
Antoine Odom, David Pollack. I mean, Alex Brown.
There would be some legends right there just getting a chance to go at it at 48 or something. It would be awesome.
Yeah. That would be fun.
We had Taylor Decker on the show a couple weeks ago, and he was saying that the thing he was best at was cheating. He's really good at false starting but getting away with it.
He goes on like the – He's quick, yeah. The H in hike is when he gets out of his set.
So for you, I've always heard that every good offensive lineman is good at getting away with something in particular. Mark Slareth is always like, yeah, I was good at peeing myself and holding people.
That's kind of what he did. What about you? What was your thing where you like danced on the borderline of playing inside the rulebook, but enough to the point where you had an advantage?

Oh, man, I said screw the borderline.

I just literally, it's the outside wrap of the hands.

I'd put the clamps on the outside arms.

I'd always grab the outside of your arms or the outside of the pads

and just hold you in that clamp right there.

That was it.

I mean, I would clamp you down, just almost like a little jiu-jitsu technique of clamp,

putting the clamps on people to where they have to fight against that pressure.

I was a world-class holder. The first thing, I see Pete Carroll the other night other night niners seahawks i go up to say what's up to him and it's herb street now michael sitting out there talking to him i walk up and he's like oh my god here he i turned this guy in the refs forever every time i've ever played him i've screamed for them to call holding on this guy they never do it they like him too much yeah and i said look i made friends with their refs yeah and I you know what I put the clamps it's all hey I don't mind saying it I

held people for a living guess what if you're an offensive lineman you got to become a world-class

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Hey, man, that was a great call. You always want to bring attention to those things.
Or if there's a fight, you want to be the first guy in there like, oh, hey, ref, I got you, man. I'll split them up for you, man.
You don't worry about it, okay? I got them. You separate.
You know, you got to be on top of those things, man. It's the hustle, baby.
You got to know how to hustle. It's smart.
So in covering the league now, what would you say is best offensive line right now? Because, you know, it always is great. I know the Eagles get thrown out there but is there anyone else maybe off you know the you know what we know is obvious right now that you see like ascending that watch out for them in in the playoffs because their offensive line plays so well I think it's one of those things we keep talking about the weapons and you brought him up I mean the Lions group I mean you know people keep talking about you know Jared Goff's playing his best and the weapons have offensively and all these things.
But, you know, they also just played a Jets defense that's been getting after people and they didn't touch Jared. I mean, no sacks, you know, barely hit him at all.
Like you look at that, that is one of the reasons they're winning. I mean, giving Jared Goff time in the pocket and he's never been a guy who's able to do much after the play, right? If it breaks down, he's not a guy that's going to like run for a bunch of yards or create after the play but you give him that initial time to sit back there and feel comfortable he's always been great at throwing the football so I think the way they run it the way they can pass protect that group doesn't get talked about enough in my opinion just because of the team's record but how they've protected and how they've run the football all year they're a really good group but obviously there's the Eagles there's the Browns there's a lot of good groups but I think they're one that's not getting enough credit for how well they're playing it's a very good point and it's definitely why Jared's playing so well right now or part of the reason why um we talk about your Super Bowl incredible ending what was your worst game ever played worst game ever played you know I'm gonna go I got probably in my career I mean one of them I was injured so I'm not not going to give it the nod.
My worst game that I felt like I ever played was my rookie year. We play in Indianapolis.
Peyton Manning and the Colts actually won the Super Bowl that year. We were playing them on Monday night football for them to lock up, I think, their division.
And we were trying to get a playoff spot. We had to win one of our last three.
And in-game warm-ups our pro bowl right tackle willie anderson hurts his foot and all week long it had been hey our rookie left tackle is going against dwight freeney we're gonna have to slide to him help him the whole game and i was excited about having help against dwight freeney at that time and he gets hurt in pre-game and we had to move our left guard to right tackle and it was like all right look guys whatever way we call, we're just going to slide to whoever it is the protection's at. And I'm like, oh, boy.
And we got down two or three scores early, and it became just a bloodbath. It was like the ugliest film I've ever watched.
I mean, I'm just holding on for dear life every play. You don't talk about holding.
I'm jumping in the air just holding this guy like a three-year-old seeing their dad for the first time. I mean, I'm just jumping on him with everything I got, trying to clamp legs, feet, arms, hold him to the ground.
He gave me a good lesson as a rookie that game. I found out real quick that you better be ready for anything in this league.
Yeah. I mean, it's always – it's got to suck so bad.
Well, and he was such an unorthodox guy. He was smaller in stature, so fast off the ball.
I don't know if a lot of people remember the Jonathan Ogden game he had such a special game against you know what a tremendous player but that's how he was if he could get off the ball on you and they had a lot of pass situation that spin move was so rare I mean nobody in this league has ever been able to replicate him and the ability he had to spin on you uh it was just such a tough move that if you haven't faced it you didn't know how to stop it until you got used to it. And he was tremendous at it.
Was there one guy that was just stronger than all the rest? You knew after you played against this dude. Well, I got to play in the AFC North for 11 years against Terrell Suggs and James Harrison.
So one thing I actually felt good about when I faced strong players or physical rushers, that was like, all right, I can relax because nobody was a better test each and every week than playing James Harrison twice a year and Terrell Suggs I used to tell people like James was like the type of guy it was you know guys set up rushes James sets up like I'm gonna see how many times I can hit you as hard as I can hit you and make you basically cower down to that kind of contact throughout the game I mean there'd be plays where the ball's been gone you'd go back and watch film you're like dude the, dude, the ball was thrown half a second ago. Like, why did he come hit me? But that was his mentality.
Like, I'm just going to bull the crap out of you every play, regardless of whether the ball's there or not, because I want to, like, create you to be like, man, I'm tired of this guy hitting me. Would you, like, check Instagram the week before you were playing against the Steelers and James Harrison is like, I don't know, throwing a giant dog over a volleyball net or whatever weird exercise? He played with us for one year.
We get in at, like, Monday mornings. It's 5 a.m.
I'd go in the facility at, like, 6 o'clock. This dude's been there since 5.
I mean, you walk in there, and ours had all glasses. You walked in the facility, you could see the weight room.
And he's got six, seven plates just hitting 600 pounds on squat at 5.30 in the morning on a Monday after a game. And you're just like, what in the world is going on? I barely want to get up and down out of a couch, much less put 600 pounds on my back.
This is just moving weight. By the way, I looked up the stats from that Monday Night Football game.
Dwight Freeney had three sacks, three forced fumbles, and two QB hits as well. So let's get back to the Super Bowl.
So we won the Super Bowl last year. You won the line.
You did that like, holy shit, he had a day. Let's talk about the Super Bowl.
Let's talk about the other Super Bowl. Coming back from that one, from the loss, was that tough to actually get up for the next season? Did that take you – or were you motivated in the offseason? Opposite.
I thought I was like – that was as fired up as I've ever been. I thought really from that year until this year winning the Super Bowl it's like the most locked in I've been in my career because for whatever reason it's almost like tasting it a little bit and just be in there and be like wow okay how big that stage was the opportunity to get back there man would be out of this world and so you were willing to do whatever to get back in that seat again and plus we knew we kind of had a window with the talent we had to make another run.
And so I think that was like the most locked in I've ever been in my career after that. It was obviously heartbreaking, but that's actually why I continued.
I remember getting asked after the game, like, you know, are you going to retire or whatever now that you've at least made the Super Bowl, even though you lost. And I mean, I never even like had a half a thought about retiring because I was so fueled up to get going.

We actually landed from Atlanta.

We fly back the next day.

We land in Atlanta, and I put on headphones and started working out in the facility

when everybody was getting their cars leaving.

I'll never forget this.

And walking around the field, I was kind of doing some jogs, stride stuff,

like you'd normally do on a Monday after a game, just kind of getting my mind.

I was like, dude, I'm locked in. I'm going now.
I'm not taking a break. I'm not being off.
I'm going straight to training. So that year you went to LSU from Louisiana.
Do you want to apologize to Saints fans? Because we had the idea that I think it was a couple weeks ago where like, you know there's like one or two Saints fans that are still sitting there being like they're going to reverse this call and they're going to play this again like four years later. So do you want to apologize? Well, here's the thing.
I still have trouble crossing the border there because as soon as I get there, it's like, hey, man, you did a lot of great things for LSU, but go screw yourself because you played for the Rams. It's like, listen, guys, they paid me to play there.
I had nothing to do with the call. You can be as mad as – I mean, literally, we were having to hold on to friendships after this.
People are like, hey, listen, we've been your friends for 20 years, but you went to the championship instead of the Saints, so we can no longer be your friend again. It's that serious.
That's fair. And now you work for the NFL, which is their other big enemy.
Oh, man. Exactly.
So I'm just enemy number one. Dude, look.
So apologize. You know, hey, listen, I'm sorry that you went through the experience of not getting the call that you wanted.
Not sorry that we went to the Super Bowl. I'm sorry your feelings got hurt.
Yeah. Sorry for your feelings.
That's it. I apologize to your feelings.
You know he was there early, though, right? Like, you can admit that. What did you say in the locker room after? You guys are like, holy shit, how did we get away with that one? I mean, listen, you're talking to an offensive lineman.
We hold every play. So when you're talking about getting away with a call, 85% of pass plays, O-linemen are like, did I get away with it? Right.
Yes. All right, awesome play.
You hold all the time. You're in a hand-to-hand combat.
The whole concept of holding is actually kind of crazy. Think about it.
You are literally fighting some guy, and then all of a sudden it's like, oh, a jersey pulled, now you held. Yeah.
It's like we're in hand-to-hand combat. I don't know if I held or not, but I'm going to turn around and find out by the ref, right? So we're used to it.
So when I saw a no call, I'm like, hey, I love no calls. Yeah.
That's my favorite thing in the world. That's why I never complain about anything a D-lineman does.
He puts his hands hands in my face you'll never hear me say a word because i love no calls yeah we're going to get back to andrew whitworth in a second he's being brought to you by three chi now introducing the next evolution in ultra pure cannabis products delta 9-0 by three chi three chi delta 9-0 products deliver similar yet smoother stronger and longer lasting euphoria compared to traditional marijuana products. The high-quality and federally legal hemp-derived product raises the bar for what you should expect from a cannabis product in both effects and experience.
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Must be 21 or older to to purchase I'm not a drug guy I'm a 3G guy please use responsibly and now here's more Andrew Whitworth what about the Todd Gurley episode where he went down and says scoring a touchdown remember that? were you in the huddle for that one? yeah did he say he was going to do that? I think it was the Packers. Well, he did it twice.
Yeah, he did it twice. Lions, he did it in the one-yard line.
He had like a long run where he ran like across the field and got down. And then Packers.
Yeah, no, that was our plan. Y'all know the situation.
Yeah, we know the situation very well. Do we know what it's called? It was – What is it called? Fuck everybody watching at home.
Yeah. You guys will love us.
It's called Rolex. Oh, God.

That's a McVeigh term, isn't it?

God damn it.

Of course it is.

And his stupid beard.

He called it Rolex because time matters.

So he'd send the play in and be like, hey, it's a Rolex situation, guys.

Oh, my God.

So you got to get down.

Yeah, let's screw everyone who had the over.

That's it.

That's what you did.

Yeah, the Rolex.

Was it weird when McVeigh showed up the first, you know, when got hired and and you're there and you're like i'm older than you was he trying to be i think we actually talked to him about it that like at first he was maybe trying a little too hard to be like i'm everyone's boss then realize like some guys are just gonna be older than me yeah i think at first he didn't know how exactly to approach those relationships like i think for him it's always been like just, you know, y'all know what he is. He's just so passionate and locked into what he's about and those kind of things that I think, you know, you're 30 years old.
You've literally the most, like, highest seat you've had. You've been an offensive coordinator.
Like, you've never been, like, in charge of an entire building and place and all that, right? He had no idea how to be. So it's just, hey, I'm trying to form relationships and fill myself out as a leader of like the entire building and I think that's some things that people lose when you talk about head coaches like most these guys have never sat in that seat before ever in their life they've either come up as an assistant coach you know an offense coordinator only a few have been a college coach and come to that seat so it's like they don't have no idea they're still trying to figure out who they are as a coach.
But we live in a nature now, whether it be quarterbacks, coaches.

It's like, man, you better do it right at the beginning or you're done.

We're getting rid of you fast.

Right.

Yeah, no, it is always interesting.

I mean, it's something we talk about because we cover –

like talking about the league always is like that moment

where you can lose the locker room.

Even like a Dan Campbell this year, one in six.

I said it on this podcast, like if they keep losing,

like it might be over here.

So can you sense in the sense that when a coach's you know message is starting to not really resonate with the guys and it just doesn't hit the same way yeah and I think what you start to see and I think Sean has been so good at this in his career is you start to see that you you are like in where you're going with things you're not really feeling the empathy of the room you're in charge of and I think the guys that are really good you know if you've molded guys and you've led guys a certain way that empathy like you're like all right I see where the team's at and where they're going and what I need to say regardless of whether you 100 believe it yeah you know you look at the Zach Wilson situation like the reality is that was like a situation where he didn't feel like hey dude could you not feel this entire locker room feels like hey man you got to play better for us and you like missed a moment to like just even if you don't agree with it right I just need to be better bottom line I need to be better and we can't leave the defense in that situation and that's really one of those moments where it's like you can't miss those as a leader as somebody who wants to really good in the league, as a head coach. You can't miss the moments to be exactly what your locker room needs you to say, not necessarily what you think is the right thing to say.
Yeah, that's a good point. Like that time that you have where you can nail it and be like, I need to say what everyone needs to hear at this moment.
Yeah, and I may 100% not agree with that. Right, right.
That's a good point. I get the feeling like players like Zach Wilson,

if they go through some bad times with the media,

they start to hate the media, right?

So what Zach was saying in that moment, I think inside his own head,

was like a big fuck you to the media for asking me that question.

It might not have been what he felt was the truth if he were to talk to the guys in his locker room,

but he was delivering that message to the reporters in that room that he does not like or he's frustrated with at that period of time. Are there players that you've talked to or that you've been around that have maybe expressed to you the importance of, like, this can be a good relationship with the media? Because, I mean, look at you right now.
You're out of the league. You're working for the NFL Network.
You're doing a great job. But you might not have had that opportunity if you hadn't been friendly to the media during your time as a player.
Yeah, I think learning how to do what you're saying. Put things in where they are.
And the reality is, like, hey, I play this game. This game is brought about by fans being interested in the game, people betting on games, people following the game.
And where do they get a lot of their information? From the media. The media drives what the fans know, what people and so you got to come to like hey I have this job I get this opportunity because of the people who help follow this game and create the buzz that I want I get the benefit of being this high profile player I get these marketing deals media deals whatever it may be from those relationships and also because of those people existing so I think sometimes you can get caught up in those moments, and it's tough.
After a game you've lost in a heated battle, people have to remember these dudes are warriors. They're going out there battling, and you're hot-headed, you're tired, you're exhausted, you're mad, you're frustrated at yourself, and sometimes your words come out frustrated at the people asking you the questions, and you're really just mad at you, and you're mad that you even have to answer the question because you put yourself in this situation right and I think that sometimes you forget that and you answer it about your anger towards yourself and towards the fact that they even are asking you that and you don't have time to step away and go hey wait a minute am I really in a fight with this person like that all they're doing is trying to write an article right like that's not who I'm going to fight with right and I think you just got to learn who you take that anger out on and I think some people are

better than others I think we get mad when a Belichick or a Brady or these are short and

don't really say anything right but I think that's probably how they've learned to go that's this the

only way I can not put myself in a situation that makes me lose the locker room or lose people's

opinion to me I just need to step away and when I'm in a better headspace I'll be back to say what

I need to say. Did you ever have a moment in your career where you gave an answer and you're like

Thank you. locker room or lose people's opinion to me.
I just need to step away. And when I'm in a better headspace, I'll be back to say what I need to say.
Did you ever have a moment in your career where you gave an answer and you're like, you walked off and the PR person was maybe like, Hey, that one was stupid. Yeah.
I think I've kind of gone like you're a little hotheaded with an answer. I mean, something like owning something like that.
I think that, you know, no, I mean, I think I've always been one that's like, I'm going to be the hardest on myself anyway. So maybe more times it might have been like, hey, just don't jump on the sword completely.
Like you don't have to say you and the offensive line suck today. You could just say, hey, we should have been better in some situations.
Because sometimes you can do that. You can bash yourself and your group, and then all of a sudden you create a narrative on yourself because you're in there just jumping all over and being like, just blame us for everything, you know.
And it's like, that's a little too much. That's a good point.
So your first year without football in, I don't know, what is it, 35 years? I mean, since you started, let's say college and pro, it's 25 years that you're a full season that you get to sit on the couch. We have a debate whenever we have players on who are recently retired.
What's harder, the NFL or watching the NFL uh well here's what I'll say taking this job with Amazon being a part of NFL on prime like I it has been really cool for me because I would say the last six years of my career it's like I kind of played everybody there wasn't a lot of new rushers that I'm having to face like I'd played most people I've played played. So like film study and things, like as far as what my job is, it was pretty easy.
But now like getting to like reinvest into the whole game, the whole picture, the quarterbacks, the defenses, the coverages, stunts, blitzes, everything that's going on, GM decisions, coaches decisions, it's been like invigorating to me. Every Sunday I watch every single game.
I'm trying to figure out a way I can like like, on my phone, on my computer, on the TV, watch everything I can and just digest as much as I can of the game. So, for me, it's been out of this world exciting to watch the game.
I've loved it. Which is harder? I think it's easier to watch the game.
It's so much fun. Have you ever been laying on your couch for three hours, 45 minutes, maybe your legs asleep asleep, then your TV, it flashes on the screen.
Are you still watching? This box will be set to idle if you don't do something, and then you can't find the remote in your room? That's tough. I also realized that when you fill up the table with all the food, if you're going to be the only one that's going to sit there the whole time, you're going to end up eating all that.
I I think I've – I'll tell you what's harder, stay in shape and watch games. Okay.
Because it's awful. Halfway here.
Yeah. I think I've lost 30 pounds of muscle and gained 30 pounds of fat, so it's just kind of neutral.
Right. I feel good about it.
It's even. What about like – let's just say you go 0 for 4 in the first slate, 1 o'clock slate.
You forget that the game you really love is at 4.05. You miss to bet it, and another like over two in the afternoon that's harder than playing the nfl yeah and here's the worst part about it there's nothing you can do about it like i play bad in a game i go out monday i'm working my butt off like i'm getting you know hey i'm gonna do extra conditioning i'm gonna extra film i'm gonna push myself harder in the weight room when you go over six betting all you got to do is be mad at yourself till the next week and then just second guess every decision that you ever possibly made and who what you believe in what right and one thing i've learned too is all the statistics you're like yeah i'm reading all these stats i'm trying to say who's winning and then i go with the team that i think the stats say is going to win no stats are for losers and cowards 100 said that stats for losers yeah yeah number never won a super bowl i agree that's a fact trust your eyes just guys what about when you said uh you you actually did say that you got triggered by the word the data says yes was that about player safety or was that about yeah i just love it like when we're talking about all right just specific to turf right like when we say the word data says like who gave you the data because the only people who actually play on the surface right it's not some like there's not other people that are experiencing what does this the surface do to them other than the players so if the players hate playing on the turf that's the only data that actually really exists right so because everything else is well these many injuries have happened here blah blah like I don't think that's really what the argument is the argument is I know that after I play a game on turf I feel awful for three or four days your knees your joints your body like you just feel terrible getting ready to play the next week is harder like we already talk about the rebound time in the NFL to play in these big battles every week so you just feel terrible whereas when I play on grass there is a drastic difference how I wake up the next day like just my body in general like how i can work out how i can train it's night and day different that's crazy because i think what we've all just assumed is the technology they've used with the turf has made it so good that it's not that doesn't happen anymore but you can really really feel it oh there's no doubt trainers know it i mean if you go to nf if you went to every nfl trainer and you just went to those guys alone like the head trainer and you said how do your guys feel playing on turf first grass he'd be like oh there's there's a difference these guys crazy no doubt we're grass guys by the way we have your back yeah big time yeah yeah i'm not like hey i'm not blaming turf for things i'm just telling you that if nfl players want to play on grass then that's what we should be playing on if i'm playing in the pga open like we're not worried worried about what public is going to do with the golf course next Friday.
So we're going to be worried about what surface, how we're going to cut the grass. We're going to make the grass on the greens for PGA Tour players to have their best performance, right? So it's like no matter what sport you're talking about, it's all about the player experience.
But in the NFL, it's about, well, oh, we want to have tours. And what about concerts? And what about other things that want to come here? come here and it's like wait a minute all we're talking about is what the players want to play on yeah it would basically be like if the nba was like we're going to play on hard top yeah and like hey we decided yeah it looks cooler we're going to play on on concrete and uh we don't have to have as many towel wipers yeah right if we go on concrete yeah okay so yeah i think that the field turf it it works in theory and it's better than astroturf.
I think that's kind of what they thought. They're like, how do we make artificial surface that's not just concrete that you're landing on all the time? They came up with the answer in field turf, and then everyone kind of went along with that because it seemed like a nice happy medium between it.
But it's about 50-50 in terms of fields in the NFL, right? There might be like one more or two more maybe artificial turf terms we should just do a study and look at injuries of teams that play the majority of their games on field turf but he's saying don't do that because the data doesn't matter but i'm saying like it's just whatever they should feel but if if if yeah okay because i think i agree that's fair and that's kind of my point their data only shows injuries right all right but what about like hey this dude who's yeah if you're an older player the inflammation you're gathering playing on concrete like i always tell people all right just go run on concrete for a while and then like go on some soft surface and bounce around you're gonna feel totally different you go on grass and jog around and you go on concrete and jog around there's a night and day difference in how your body's gonna feel that's just a fact i was yeah i mean i i agree with you i we are team grass we are big time i think grass i love it you would only find probably kickers like the turf and that's about it yeah they better footing so yeah they're probably like it and more likely it usually means they're either indoors or in a better situation with turf so yeah yeah they probably like it um you guys remember when you had the lightning delay indoors yes i do that was craziest thing i've ever experienced like what's going on i can't be struck by lightning but we can't play right now i don't know what's happening did you know that that could happen when they were building that stadium that like billion dollar stadium it's like wait well it's technically not indoors no it's not indoors we found that out fast because the very first time we did a scrimmage in there it was 90 something degrees outside in la and we go in there and realize like man all in a greenhouse. Like, it was – Holy shit.
It was like being in a sauna in there because it's just holding the heat in, but you're not actually outdoors, so you're not getting breeze or any of that in there. I mean, I think we were dying that day, and everybody's like, wait a minute, that's not what – I was thinking, like, it was going to be cool, like an indoor.
Yeah. And it was not at all.
It was hot. And that place actually gets really warm.
Super Bowl was warm. There's a lot of big games in there, and when they're playing at the right time of day it's hot in there yeah you uh you get a chance to watch the halftime show at all i know the bangles kicker watched it the bangles kicker did watch it i did not get to watch it i did afterwards though obviously i've seen all the playbacks of it in sayings that's obviously my era of like you know the music that i grew up so that was sick yeah um all right so i had one last question it's a rowback question promo code take 20 off your first purchase uh q-zips polos hoodies joggers everything at rhoback.com promo code take uh for 20 off my last question i'm gonna give to billy billy football has a question billy let's go billy's questions the other games you've given up three sacks thanks yeah yeah what were the other ones off the top of your head? Elvis Dumerville.
Anyways, go ahead. Move on.
When Ryan Fitzpatrick on the night of the white Bengal uniforms made that comment, how fast did you distance yourself from that? You know, I think Sherm actually pulled my chair towards him really fast. If you ever watch, Sherm constantly is in my rib cage with elbows, punches, with the funny things that people say.
But, uh but yes he pulled me close and you know what's wild is he actually had said the comment during like our rehearsals what was the comment again uh so it was we were wearing the all-white unis yeah uh the bingles were we're wearing the all-white unis and obviously ryan and i both played for the bingles and so we carissa had touched on and what a special night it was because the bengals are wearing their all-white uniforms and ryan was like and we were a pair of white bengals at one time so it's like what but that's fits he's just he's hilarious and dude he is dude he is awesome it's been so much fun uh to be back around each other after we played together for a couple years in cincinnati so yeah that was a Has he ever tried to use like big Harvard words, try to like intimidate everybody with his knowledge? Oh, man, all the time. The guy's just so smart.
You know, and the thing is, is like most of his jokes are awesome. It's just I have to get him to kind of explain to me what the words mean that made it funny sometimes.
But, you know, I mean, look, the guy's always going to have a couple buttons down, chest hair out, beard. You know, I watched Richard Sherman shave his neckline this year.
I mean, you know, we're really tight on our group. I mean, obviously, we're shaving necklines.
I'm going to try and maybe one of them will shave my back here soon. I don't know.
I like that. You know, we're a close group.
Yeah. Oh, I forgot one real quick last question.
How nice is Andy Dalton? Dude, the Red Rifle's one of the kindest dudes ever, man. Nicest dude ever, right? Yeah, yeah.
No doubt. Agreed.
Agreed. Yeah, I mean, he's a nice guy.
He is. Like, really nice guy.
We've had him on the show. he's a the red rifle's uh one of the kindest dudes ever yeah no doubt agreed yeah i mean he's a nice guy he is like really nice guy we've had him on the show he went in the van nice guy yeah i i think it'd actually be a challenge to see if you can make andy dalton say something mean wouldn't be able to do it i wonder if it's possible nope wouldn't be able to do it nice guy in the world very nice guy well him and blake portals yeah he also played for who's nicer blake or andy uh you know what that one's a tough one i think andy probably harder to get to say something mean because portals will let it out every now and then he'll let her rip with you he'll you know he'll he'll light one up and have a good time you know so portals is my guy oh he's i mean like he's our best friend oh dude he's we're actually he like he's not really friends with you he's friends with us not to make it a competition but he's our best friend yeah listen i don't doubt it one time i was with him in camp and literally driving somewhere and i'm seeing like looking out the windows both i'm like dude what are you looking for like we're going to dinner and he's like i'm just trying to find somebody that could grab a pack so i can light up when we get out of here i'm like this guy's already thinking about a cigarette he didn't even have a drink yet when we went to we went to we stayed at Jared's house, and Blake came over, and he told the greatest story probably in the podcast history that he bought a Tesla because he was trying to quit dip.
So he didn't have to go to the gas station anymore. And then he was like, I didn't quit dip.
I just bought the Tesla. Just plugged in the address to the gas station.
Just drive me there. He's like, I figure that's the best way to quit is just never have to go to the gas station anymore.
That's fantastic. You're like a $200,000 car to quit dip.
Legend. He's the best.
But, yeah, check out Andrew Whitworth. Thursday night, Jags, Jets.
It's going to be an awesome game. Very excited for this game.
The whole crew, you guys have done an amazing job all year on Amazon Prime. And we really appreciate you stopping by, man.
Hey, I appreciate it, man. Always fun.
Much better, much more comfortable than the van. Yes.
A little nicer. Big time.
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And now for something completely different. Okay, we are doing one question with a quarterback.
Very special guest. It is Kansas City Chiefs quarterback, the most famous Kansas City Chiefs quarterback right now, Chad Henney.
Chad, thank you for joining us. One question with a quarterback.
I think you know how it works. We all get one question, then you get a question back to us.
I'll start. I gotta know, how has it been recently having the name Chad? Do you think Chad's get like a, they're getting a bad rap right now? I don't know.
I mean, if you go back a few weeks ago, I think Chad Powers has taken us over. I mean, with Eli Manning coming back and trying out again, it's pretty impressive.
Chad Powers is on the roll. I mean, I think we get the douche bag kind of persona, but I think we're still rolling.
Okay. All right.
Chad's doing well. I have a follow-up, but I'm not allowed to ask it.
But Chad's are still going strong. I was going to say, Chad, it seems like a diet Chad might be a Blake.
And you played with the Blake-est Blake of them all. What, two-time Blake of the Year champion? Yeah.
Blake Bortles. You played with him down in Jacksonville.
We're just going around the last couple days with these guests here that we've had on uh telling and sharing our favorite blake bortles story so what is your favorite blake bortles story oh man there's so many um i think that one that comes to mind is i don't know what year it was if it was 2015 2016 obviously we're out of the playoffs so blake on super bowl sunday is like let's go play some golf and i was like all right you know no problem 10 a.m meet you at the course of course we get too messed up we're drinking 15 beers maybe three or four minis i'm like shit i call my wife i'm like you know how about my wife makes us like some super bowl get up a little food little drink and this is my daughter at the time is two months old. My son's probably two.
So she goes out to the grocery store with all kids and she's like, all right, I got all the food. We're ready to go.
And I'm like, Blake, I don't think we can drive home. We better have somebody pick us up.
So we Uber to my house and I just get nasty sick. I just started throwing up everywhere, dry heaving.
I was like, Blake, why don why don't you stay down get a beer you know birdie will be down hopefully she'll cook you some food took an hour my wife's pissed and blake's just down there for an hour just drinking a beer and he's like dude i'm leaving i sat on the toilet for six hours dry heaving just throwing up ridiculous so he left oh i can't ask a question oh yeah he left he left he was like you know what i'm not staying around for you dude you gotta get together he's the best we we once uh we once stayed at his house we stayed over his house in jacksonville and he just left the key for us and was like just let yourself in he didn't come home for like eight hours we were just hanging out in his house it's just the best doors always open at blake's yeah yeah all right Billy you got a question hey Chad Billy here uh so you've been in a couple quarterback rooms uh we recently also had Chase Daniels on and asked him uh what was his favorite contribution to make to whatever quarterback room he was in he said coffee makers a certain type of coffee maker just wondering what's your favorite contribution to make in a quarterback room it doesn't have to be be a physical object. It could just be a mentality thing, but what would that be? It's definitely got to be our knowledge.
I think being in the league for 15 years, I think what we bring to the table, you almost are like that secondary coach. You understand the game and can help out the younger quarterbacks as much as possible.
I think I've done that with a lot of guys, with Blake Bortles, with Lane Gabbert, obviously Patrick Mahomes. So I think our knowledge is definitely one of the biggest attributes.
Yeah. All right, Hank.
What's up, Chad? You played at Michigan with Ryan Mallett. How good was his arm? I mean, stupid.
6'7", I mean, 250 pounds. I mean, just a pure rocket shooter.
I remember the first day he came in, I felt like I had a strong arm. He threw like a 10-yard out route, went right through the receiver's hands and like pelted the wall.
Sounded like a shotgun went off. I was like, geez, this kid's going to be special.
Yeah, he had. I remember watching him at Michigan and being like, holy fuck, this guy's arm is insane.
Not always accurate, but insane arm. Could use some touch.
Yeah, a little touch. Max, wrap us up, and then Chad will have a question for us.
I'd just like to know what makes Kansas City fans so special and crazy. Did Kansas City ask that question for you?

What was that?

I mean, I just think they show out each and every game.

I mean, I don't think it matters what game it is. I mean, my first time coming to the stadium in 2018,

I don't know who we're playing, but 8 a.m.

I got there like four hours early, and it was jam-packed i mean you got the smokers going barbecue rolling i mean people are just getting rowdy and they're just a special group of people they're always there cheering us on and one of the loudest stadiums ever played in yeah yeah all right so you got a question for us i don't know um i was trying to think what I could ask you. I mean, how about everybody impersonates

Patrick Mahomes'

voice? Oh, well, we got one. We got one.

PFT has the best Patrick Mahomes

impersonation. I don't know if that's

really a nice thing to do, Chad. I mean,

come on another man's program telling him what to do

with his accent, how to do his accent, stuff

like that. I think that's just a little hoodwinky.

Pretty good, right?

Not bad. Not bad.
I just love Kitscher. I'm here.
I'm him. I'm him.
Chad, thank you so much. We appreciate it, man.
Best of luck rest of the year in the playoffs, which you guys have, you know, you're backing it again seven straight years. We actually announced on the last part of my take, so we can congratulate you right now on eight straight AFC West championships.
So we've already given you next year's because every year teams, everyone's like in the media is like, oh, look out for the Raiders. Look out for the Chargers.
Just give it again. So you guys win eight straight.
Yeah, congratulations on that. Thanks.
Thanks for having me, guys. All right.
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Guys on chicks. We have an update from a few weeks ago.
Remember the girl who caught her boyfriend cheating, but she had concert tickets? Yeah. He had concert tickets and she wanted to go and she was deciding whether she should go or not.
Yeah. She followed up.
She said, hey boys, this is an update. I ended up going to the concert with my ex-boyfriend.
By the way, sorry not saying who it was i thought i did it was the weekend anyway i gave in and said yes and let's just say it wasn't the best experience i've had in the slightest he pretty much tried to start an argument with me the entire time and ended up leaving with another girl who he met there lol big cat was definitely wrong with the having a baby that night thing at least on my part love you guys yeah no he might he might have so i i don't think i was wrong he might have had a baby where we say that you're going to get back together yeah i thought they were going to get back together because it was like um what was it i guess the breakup they didn't get back together when he was supposed to go to meet him at the concert jennifer anston and uh vince vaughn yeah so i wrong. I was wrong.
Hand up. My bad.
Was the concert good at least? You got to go see The Weeknd perform. That's pretty awesome.
He's one of the... I fucking love The Weeknd.
Love that guy. Ladies and gentlemen.
Oh. The Weeknd.
That always plays. Hey, PMT boys.
Question here for bro football doc, Billy Football. My boyfriend Nick came in last place in his fantasy football league and as punishment he has to enter a bodybuilding competition i've been trying to give him advice on how to get bigger and stronger but he says i don't know what i'm talking about any advice on how he can get swole i think steroids may be his only hope at this point yeah it's definitely not worth doing steroids for an off bodybuilding competition if you're not gonna make it like your actual career why not Why not? Wouldn't it be cool to look awesome once? Yeah.
Like, if you can get one great picture of you and just put it up all over your house. But just ruins your whole body for your whole life? If you only do one cycle.
Why would you get into a bodybuilding competition and not want to at least try to compete? Yeah. Like, if you're going to be in there, you don't want to finish last.
You got some beta energy right now. I'm just going to say it.

Look, I mean, if it's a

natty bodybuilding competition, you can't

actually take steroids. Beta alanine,

just low calories going up.

It's a whole different...

Bodybuilding is super dangerous. Aren't they all

natty competitions? Yeah, I know. Everybody

lies. Yeah, I think in the natty competition

you want to do steroids.

You know what? Just tell them, just chicken and rice. That's what everyone says.
Chicken and rice. Just eat chicken and rice and you'll be okay.
Just five by five, Arnold's big three. If you can't put on masks doing that, then maybe try the chemicals.
What about DMAA? Meth? Yeah. Yeah, maybe.
What about MDMA? I just purchased some of that geranium extract Should be getting it any day now

He's about to start doing some meth

Oh okay

It's geranium seed extract Billy

It's not meth

Totally different

Chicken rice

Not a drug guy

No

Gentle boys

I'm 98% sure my boyfriend is going to propose to me on Christmas Eve

I know he has the ring and has gone out of his way to make sure all my extended family will be there at our Christmas party this year. He is also a huge football guy and is Jalen Hurts in fantasy football.
According to him, if Jalen Hurts doesn't play on Saturday, Christmas will be fucking ruined. He has pretty much said he's going to bail on my family's party if Hurts doesn't play.
Did I read things wrong? Is he trying to throw me off?

Am I about to get engaged to a lunatic?

Help.

Yes.

Yeah, you are, but the good news is when Gardner Minshew wins that game,

he's going to be so happy, he's going to propose to you anyways.

Well, he's got to pick him up in fantasy.

It's fantasy, not Eagles.

Oh, he's not an Eagles fan.

No, he says fantasy is Jalen Burr.

Yeah, he's got to pick Gardner Minshew up,

and then Gardner Minshew will make you want to get married. Yeah, yeah.
Tell him, hey, this Gardner Minshew guy, I listen to his podcast. They've been talking him up.
They said dead coach game. You should probably pick him up.
Sirianni also just came out breaking moves and said he's not ruling out Jalen Hurst. Oh! His body is different.
His body is different. His body is not like ours.
I will not rule him out. Wow.
That might be Sirianni doing the pandering Philly thing. Yeah, it is.
Sirianni's doing too much for sure. He's just like, yeah, this guy, I'm not going to rule him out.
Sirianni's like, I hear no bell. Yeah.
Yeah. Hey, boys.
Max, does it ever irritate you just a little bit that Sirianni tries so hard to be Philadelphia? 100%. Oh, okay.
I just want to make sure you recognize that. I think he's a good football coach, but he's corny.
By the way, that guy, the last question, just to wrap it up, you're dating a winner. That's a winner.
You know what I'm saying? He knows. And a real winner in life is someone who knows if they're going to lose, they don't show up.
That's a winner. You can't lose if you never show up.
So he thinks he's going to lose fantasy football. He doesn't show up to Christmas Eve.
Never happened. That's a winner.
Hey, boys. When my husband works out at night, he changes into compression shorts.
Afterwards, he always puts back on the underwear he was wearing before he worked out. I told him this is gross and that he shouldn't put underwear back on after he takes it off.
I even bought him more underwear. Wait, no.
Is this gross or am I a crazy wife? Thanks. Love you guys.
You're crazy. You're crazy.
Crazy wife alert. He's wearing different underwear when he's working out.
Yeah, but the big question is after he he works out does he shower And then he puts back on the original underwear Or does he get sweaty and put back on the first underwear I think if you wear underwear all day and you take it off It's gotta be off I think if it's the same day you can put it back on No if you go to the gym You put your compressions on, work out, shower Then put on your same underpants That is totally fine I agree I think that's fine If he fine. That's what everyone did in high school.
If you showered at home, you should have enough underwear that you can change. Agreed.
Yeah. So I think we're all on the same page.
It sounds like he's going to the gym, though. What Billy just said.
And that, you just put your underwear back on. Underwear isn't dirty until you work out in it.
Disagree. I know.
There are two things. If you're doing laundry.
You haven't eaten enough in your life. There are two things things that I think My rule of thumb is If you work out If you work out in your underwear it's dirty Change it If you fall asleep in your underwear And then wake up then it's dirty If you take like multiple shits that day It's definitely dirty An underwear has a 24 hour cycle One day one night If you choose to wear underwear at night.
But to this woman's point, you can always buy more underwear. You feel like a king when you have an overflowing underwear drawer.
I think it's like, especially if it's a night, you work out, shower, just put on new underwear. But then that underwear is ruined.
Then what do you do? You fall asleep in that underwear, and then the next morning you have to put those in the dirty clothes?

That's true.

I'll be honest.

There are some Saturdays that I don't shower that I'm just wearing what I wore.

Like, I'll be just...

I don't really change that stuff up.

I think if you shower before you go to bed and you put on new underwear before you go

to bed, you can wear that underwear the next morning.

Yeah.

You can, but it's a 24-hour cycle.

You have 24 hours to wear these. Sounds like a guy who's never had a wet dream.
What, I'm having wet dreams every night? You can, but I don't like to do that. I don't like the act of waking up and the underwear that I'm wearing is what I'm stuck with all day.
I like to change into something, get a spark going. It's such bullshit that you stop having wet dreams when you're like 13 because those like it's better than virtual reality yeah

i think if you didn't jerk off you'd probably have more i mean like i think the wet dreams happen because kids don't jerk like they're just yeah yeah yeah it just happens yeah but i want one i had one i had one when i was a youth and then nothing yeah it's like it's like it's awesome it's i don't you could fuck the hottest chicks i had a one night stand with with my brain and And then my brain just left.

Like, that is just bullshit.

Like, whatever, whoever can... Yeah, you could fuck the hottest chicks.
I had a one-night stand with my brain, and then my brain just left. That is just bullshit.
Whoever can change that, change it. Elon.
A wet dream pill. Neuralink, Elon.
Better than virtual reality. There's got to be something that he's working on with that.
Yeah. What if you just had a cum button? That'd be kind of cool.
That'd be sick. Yeah.
It's like a cough button on a radio broadcast yeah all right last one hey boys my boyfriend is obsessed with the direction the toilet paper roll goes is it just him or is this a guy thing my boyfriend and i've been dating for over two years and the only time we fight is when i put the toilet roll on the wrong way the wrong way being where the paper goes behind the roll instead of front in my opinion if you want the roll to go a certain way, then you should put a new roll on when it's empty instead of leaving it on the hook. Oh, yeah.
Wait, no. He can't complain then.
If I'm going to have to replace every roll in the house, I get to decide which direction. At this point, I've just started leaving the empty roll on the hook and placed a new roll on top, sideways so that there can't be a wrong way.
So I reiterate, why are y'all so obsessed with the toilet paper rule direction?

I don't think that it's just guys that are

obsessed. I think a lot of girls are going to

weigh in on this too. I'm 100% not

obsessed. It doesn't matter

to me at all, but

people care about this a lot. There's a lot of

people that have ongoing debates.

But here's the problem.

I don't want to make

a mountain out of a molehill here, but the

fact that he cares this much and he

doesn't change the toilet paper

I'm going to break up. He's using the toilet paper as a conduit for a fight.
So you guys got to go to couples therapy because it's not the toilet paper. I don't think so.
Because again, if you're obsessed with the toilet paper, you would change it yourself. Yeah.
Right. That doesn't make any sense.
Yeah. You got, you got big issues.
You got to figure out with this guy. I'm going to, when I get my new house, I'm going to have such a flex in the bathroom.
I'm going to have two toilet paper holders, one going over, one going under. Oh, you know, whatever you want to you want to do it's up to you you know what would be an awesome flex is if in your house there's like a you know a bathroom in on the first floor that like all the guests use and just use like airport toilet paper yeah just make it really shitty industrial size and just never have to change it and be like sorry that's what you get i'm thinking of segregating my bathrooms by number one and number two.
Ooh, a urinal. I've always wanted a urinal.
Yeah, just get a urinal downstairs. Would that be like a quarter bathroom? Yeah.
Just a nice little urinal on the wall. I have a trough.
I just want a trough next to my kitchen. Yeah.
In the man cave, though. Well, that's called a sink.
Yeah. I do that all the time.
Yeah, get a trough in the in the man cave would be ultimate. I would say I'm still probably two times a week I piss in my sink.
Which sink? Kitchen. What? I finish doing the dishes late at night.
I actually think that this is... And then I just run the water.
What if it's an ongoing... I still don't believe that you actually do that.
I do. I know he does.

He's seen me do it.

If you see Little Cat peeing in the sink, are you going to be like, you can't do that?

Or are you like, don't do it if your mom's around? No, I'm going to be very, very proud of him.

Like father, like son.

What if you get a call from the school?

Be like, a hole's a hole.

What's the problem here?

Call me when you got a real problem.

It's always like 1130 at night. And it's like i i do all the dishes clean up the kitchen reward myself it's a reward it's just it's whatever i like it do you have to stand on your tippy toes no do you wash it out after yeah i run a little bit of soap and it's i mean i'm going in the hole and then i'll just run the water a little bit there's there's gotta be spatter though no yeah there's a huge hole dude yeah there's spatter huge hole and if there's spatter who cares sterile right yeah peace sterile thank you billy uh anything else any other questions that's it max you got one i actually do have one it's a follow-up yeah this is a follow-up hello big cat pft henry billy jake and back girl my boyfriend and i were wondering who has won the lottery ball the most has hank gotten it yet because surely he must have i think i still sent that in i don't i don't have that information i think jake and i might be tied yeah well actually you know what let's go what? Let's go around the room.
Jake. I think I'm at four.

Okay, Billy.

Billy's at four or five.

I'm not.

I think I'm at four or five, but that's 69.

You said six or seven.

Yeah.

No, but then we checked it.

It was four or five.

I'm at two.

I'm at two.

I've had it twice.

Max?

I have one.

Zero.

I have zero.

What?

You've never gotten this?

Nope.

All right. Well, let's go now.

Let's do it. 26.
Numbers. 26.
Can I have a number gotten this? Nope. All right, well, let's go now.
Let's do it.

26.

Numbers.

26.

Can I have a number, Hank?

No.

Please?

No.

Please.

I'm asking you nicely.

Two.

Okay, two.

17.

18.

20.

What is it, 26?

26.

I can see in Hank's eye he thinks this is actually the time.

No, it's not the time, Hank.

He thinks it's the time.

It's Sebastian.

It's so great.

Every time.

If you want to leave the studio first, Hank, you can.

You don't have to stick around and watch this again.

Sebastian's still with 82.

72.

Damn.

You're so bad. I'll just do this one.
This doesn't count. I just want to see.
Doesn't count. Doesn't count.
Can it count? No, it does not count. What would you have picked if you were going to pick, though? Oh, 62.
Reverse. 72, 62.
That means this one has to be 52. Fuck.
I guess we're going to see. We got to count.
Make it count. Why? Pick 52.
Doesn't count because there's already two balls out. Pick 52, though.
Seven. Like that extra hurts, right? When it's like three, the odds are decreased, and you're still not even close.

No, I would not be happy if I caught it right there.

Love you guys.

The first item of human civilization is a healed femur bone.

Talking away.

I don't know what to say.

I'd say it anyway

Today is on my day, but the fighting

Don't want me to hold me

Take me

Take me

It's needless to say

I want to say it's But I need some little weight

Slowly learning Life is okay Take on me Take on me I'll be I'll be I'll be I'm going to go through my heart. I'm going to go through my heart.
Things that I see, and it is a lot of fun. Just play my world with the rain.
You are the things I've got to remember. me on me Take me on me I'll be gone Take me on me Take me on me I'll bring you

Take on me

Take on me

Take on me

Take on me