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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we have Lions left tackle Taylor Decker, AWL. Great interview with him.
We also have one question with the quarterback live.

Speaker 1 in-person edition with Will Levis, who is going in next year's draft.

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Speaker 1 Today is Wednesday, December 14th. And are the Patriots back?

Speaker 4 Patriots' defense is back big time.

Speaker 1 Or do the Cardinals stink?

Speaker 4 The Patriots' defense is good. Their offense is.

Speaker 1 You know what?

Speaker 4 I can officially say the Patriots are the best bad team in the NFL. They made that pretty clear over the last few weeks.
They're a very good bad team. Their offense still sucks ass.

Speaker 1 Actually, this Sunday will be a very good test. The Raiders might be number two in the best bad team.
It's true. It's a good power rankings.

Speaker 4 Josh McDaniels revenge game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, power rankings of the best. best.
Who is the best bad team? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Find out on Sunday. I think that's fair.
That's a good matchup for those two.

Speaker 1 They are like, I do think that, I mean, they're now in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 If the season ended today, the Patriots would be in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Their defense is very good. Mac Jones, again, I think that Mac Jones has a full-on case for QB malpractice to have Joe Judge and Matt Patricia, those two dumb fucks being his OC.

Speaker 1 Like, I would be pissed if I were him. If I were his agent, I'd be like, you guys fucked him up.

Speaker 1 Because they don't know what they're doing.

Speaker 4 Like, the Patriots are the best bad team. Matt Patricia is the dumbest rocket scientist in the world.
Yes. He is so stupid when it comes to offense.

Speaker 1 Verbal meme, Matt Patricia rocket science, and it's just that gif of the kid hitting the rocket and going into his dad's dick.

Speaker 4 Or hitting himself.

Speaker 1 That's Joe Judge and Matt Patricia.

Speaker 4 Matt Patricia is a real-life Wiley Coyote on an Acme rocket firing himself into the side of a mountain that's been painted to look like a train tunnel. Yes.
He's bad. The offense is really bad.

Speaker 4 I agree with you.

Speaker 4 It's tough to say that Mac Jones is not a good quarterback because we don't know because of all the chaos that he's gotten into.

Speaker 1 It's like the reverse of last year. It was like, look at the situation that Mac Jones was able to walk into.
A structured organization,

Speaker 1 the best coach of all time. Josh McDaniels is his OC.
Everything that we said last year about Mac Jones basically reversed, and he got put in the worst situation possible.

Speaker 4 Yeah. And I mean, I think even Hank, if he was here, here, which he's not because he's sick, he's sick.
He's on vacation, one of the two.

Speaker 1 Yep. I have actually a wrinkle that a friend of mine threw out there that Hank is going to join us for Zoom at the end.

Speaker 1 I think we should offer Hank extra ping-pong balls, but every roll he gets, we take away a vacation day. That's not a bad idea.
Rocking a hard place for him.

Speaker 4 That's not a bad idea.

Speaker 4 But yeah, even Patriots fans like Hank, I think, will admit that this team is just no fun. It's not fun.
And no fun at all.

Speaker 4 And if they make it to the playoffs, they're probably going to to lose their first-round game again. And that's not fun either.

Speaker 4 Like, if you're a Patriots fan, like, for me, getting to the playoffs and losing in the first round, that's like my Super Bowl as a Commanders fan. If you're a Patriots fan,

Speaker 4 that's a washed season.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, if they make the playoffs, it would most likely be the seven seeds. So then they'd be playing the Bills or the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 Uh-oh.

Speaker 4 I kind of hope they play the Bills again in Buffalo, and it's just as bad as it was last year.

Speaker 1 And they have a tough schedule coming up. They have the Raiders, the Bengals, the Dolphins at the the Bills.
So it's not going to be easy, but they're in the playoffs right now.

Speaker 1 So they get respect for that.

Speaker 1 I would say that they're in that category of teams that their roster isn't that great. And

Speaker 1 the fact they're even in the playoff picture, it might, you know, like, hey, that's...

Speaker 1 There's teams with better rosters. Like the Saints were supposed to be a good team this year.
They've fallen off. The Raiders were supposed to be a dark horse.
They've fallen off.

Speaker 1 So you can at least look at it that way where it's like...

Speaker 4 Is this Bill Belichick's best coaching? It It might be.

Speaker 1 It might be his best coaching job of his career.

Speaker 4 He is trying to play the NFL on progressively harder and harder levels in his video game, where it's like, okay, can I get this team to the playoffs with a combination of Joe Judge and Matt Patricia as my offensive quarterback?

Speaker 4 That's the next step up right now.

Speaker 1 Next year, he should do the fan-controlled football and let us just call the plays.

Speaker 4 Yeah, or next year, probably have his son call the plays. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then on the other side, Kyler Murray, that's socked. Yeah.
ACL looks like.

Speaker 1 It was, I mean, it's already been a bummer of a year for the Cardinals, and you can almost see them quitting live on Monday Night Football.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it was tough to see that with Kyler.

Speaker 1 That first half had so many injuries, so many injuries.

Speaker 1 Did you know that the real first injury of the game was actually the Cardinals' mascot?

Speaker 4 Is this another Poe the Raven?

Speaker 1 He got injured.

Speaker 1 He got injured running off, and he literally had to take his arm around someone's shoulder and be helped into the locker.

Speaker 4 Was it a lower body injury?

Speaker 1 It was a lower body injury before the game even started.

Speaker 1 It was a bad sign for the rest of the game.

Speaker 4 Here's how much the Cardinals bummed me out. I didn't even know the Cardinals had a mascot.
Yeah. I've never seen it.
I thought it was Cortez, the guy that wears the helmet in the stands of number 69.

Speaker 4 It is.

Speaker 1 He'll never get injured.

Speaker 4 That is, yo, that guy's a hoss.

Speaker 1 That guy's got...

Speaker 4 Big, big bones.

Speaker 1 Yes. But yeah, it was a bummer of a game.
It was. It was like...

Speaker 1 The only time that it was kind of a fun game was when we had the back-to-back, it looked like it was going to be back-to-back, like pick six, fumble six.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that was an attraction.

Speaker 1 It was like, holy shit, everything's, you chaos.

Speaker 4 Colt McCoy getting in for a second. People are like, oh, yeah, Colt McCoy, he's good.
Colt McCoy is the perfect quarterback to start one game for your team in November. He already did it.

Speaker 4 And he did that, and we got that game out of Colt McCoy.

Speaker 4 Maybe the funniest stat of the night. This made me mad.
I actually got mad, but it's very funny.

Speaker 4 You know how long it's been since Cliff Kingsbury has won a coach's challenge in days? Oh.

Speaker 1 It's like probably like 400 days.

Speaker 4 You would think that. Yeah, that seems like a long amount of time.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 1,087 days.

Speaker 4 It's been 1,087 1,087 days since Cliff Kingsbury has won a coach's challenge. Shout out to Stad Hole Sports.
I didn't know it was that many days.

Speaker 4 I just heard them say he hasn't won a challenge since 2019, which is pretty bad.

Speaker 4 But when you say it in days, that's almost twice as long as the second worst coach, who's Mike Tomlin, who's notoriously bad. Pete Carroll's up there.
He's a big fan of the false flags.

Speaker 1 I know that. Mike Tomlin, I'm not even going to count because

Speaker 1 he throws challenge flags out of passion. Yeah.
There's no science behind it.

Speaker 4 Well, there's a lot of coaches out there, like Mike McCarthy. He's one of the worst, too.
But he's a coach that'll just challenge a play because he doesn't like what happened in the play. Right.

Speaker 1 And he's just frustrated.

Speaker 4 He'll hope that something different happens the second time that he sees it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's basically a fan where we're like, no, no, no, change this. Like, they're going to change it.

Speaker 1 Like, there's somewhere right now, there's a Saints fan who's still thinking they're going to change the past interference call from 2018. So, yeah, exactly.
Cliff knows that, and I respect that guy.

Speaker 4 Cliff Kingsbury has no excuse whatsoever for being this bad at challenges. The other coaches that are up there, Mike Tomlin, Belichick, Pete Carroll, those are three of the other worst in the NFL.

Speaker 4 Their excuse is they never get to watch NFL games on TV. Right.
So they're not good at watching replays. Right.

Speaker 1 They don't even know that replays exist. They don't started coaching before the yellow line existed.

Speaker 4 They don't know the green zone. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Those coaches have a reason for it. When it comes to Cliff Kingsbury, you're young enough, dude.
You were coaching college football poorly like four years ago.

Speaker 4 You should know how to watch NFL football.

Speaker 1 Yes, but he doesn't.

Speaker 4 That's why, I mean, we've talked about this before on this show, but every staff should have somebody that's really good at watching sports

Speaker 4 to be their challenge guy. Yeah.
Cliff Kingsbury is, he's, that's just insane. 1,087 days.

Speaker 1 That is a long, long time. Excuse me.
Oh, that's a loud one. Yeah.
Must have been

Speaker 4 that bean I had for lunch.

Speaker 1 We've had some serious drilling going on. Billy's going to have to go down and give him a talking to.

Speaker 1 That one. That's very loud.
That feels like they're just drilling out of spite for us.

Speaker 4 I think they're drilling into this wall right here.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Billy's going to have to go out there.

Speaker 1 The other thing, so Monday Night Football was kind of a bummer. It feels like that just happens late in the season.

Speaker 1 I do.

Speaker 4 This is a lot. I'm going to kill Pete.

Speaker 1 This is a lot. I'm going to murder Pete.
Well, it's a good thing the Wi-Fi always works.

Speaker 1 What's going on, Billy? Give us an update.

Speaker 4 Don't touch any buttons, Billy. They're right outside of our window.

Speaker 1 Can we tell them?

Speaker 8 I'm gonna have to go through these windows.

Speaker 1 All right, okay. Wait, no, you're you're not gonna go through this window.

Speaker 4 This is gonna be a disaster.

Speaker 1 What are you talking about? You're gonna go through this window.

Speaker 4 This is gonna knock everything over.

Speaker 1 No, you're this is gonna be so bad. Oh my god.
Keep this all in. This is Billy.
I don't know if that window even opens.

Speaker 9 I'm opening the first one just to roll down the blind so I can just put a message up to the window.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Jake just dropped his computer.

Speaker 4 This is chaos. It's absolute chaos.
chaos.

Speaker 4 Messi's dribbling through Croatia right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Argentina. Argentina.
Billy, be careful. This is

Speaker 1 Jake. Oh, my God.
Argentina.

Speaker 4 Argentina is going to be Argentina, probably France.

Speaker 1 Probably France, although we said that about everything. Kingdom Rock and Springfield.

Speaker 4 Big cat, did you hear that the Queen of England actually hired the British soccer team to be her pallbearers?

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 4 So they could let her down one last time.

Speaker 1 I like it.

Speaker 7 I like it. I didn't know these windows opened.

Speaker 1 Billy, I don't think this is going to work. Are you going to crawl out and scare them? Oh, I thought.
Oh.

Speaker 1 Oh, he's got him. He's got him.

Speaker 1 Can you stop?

Speaker 4 Two layers. Billy just gave him the throat slash.
That's a $15,000 fine, Billy.

Speaker 1 You got him, Billy. Get him with the phone.

Speaker 1 Tell him the little app.

Speaker 1 Do you want to fuck?

Speaker 1 That will pause them.

Speaker 1 They're stopping right now.

Speaker 4 They would stop for Glenny Ball's show.

Speaker 1 Find another number one sports podcast that will just podcast through a drill in our face. They've been doing doing construction.
No jumper, probably. Yeah, no jumper for sure.

Speaker 1 Well, no, not no jumper. The OnlyFans one he has.

Speaker 1 All right, they're looking.

Speaker 10 Billy, what's the sign say?

Speaker 1 What does it say, Billy?

Speaker 1 Something in English and something in Spanish. Oh, you did bilingual.
Wow, Billy.

Speaker 4 Por favor, senor.

Speaker 1 Are you going to make no masculine? Give it a thumbs up. Yeah,

Speaker 1 Billy.

Speaker 11 Tell him to guess a number.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Nombre, por favor. Oh, my God, Billy, you did it.
Wait, Nomre's name, Numero. Numero, Número, Sero, Por fevor.

Speaker 4 Cerro.

Speaker 1 Let me see your message, Billy. Novette,

Speaker 1 Billy wrote, Hey, guys, if you don't stop drilling, I'm calling ice. What the fuck, dude? That's fucked up.
Jesus Christ, Billy.

Speaker 1 All right, so where were we? Oh, NFL.

Speaker 1 I have.

Speaker 1 Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, I was going to say,

Speaker 1 we have our first Saturday games coming up, which is always fun.

Speaker 1 Saturday games get the juices flowing NFL all weekend long. I also wanted to bring attention to a tweet that came across my desk today, PFT, that I would like to get your take on.

Speaker 4 It's been a while since I've had a tweet come across my desk. Yeah, across my desk.

Speaker 1 It was very funny.

Speaker 1 He said, hey, pardon my take. Just a fun little fact when you continuously hammer home the point differential stats when it comes to the Vikings.

Speaker 1 And it's a picture of an Andrew Ciceliano tweet that says, all this talk about the Vikings' negative point differential.

Speaker 1 Six of the 14 teams currently in playoff positions have given up more points than they've scored.

Speaker 1 Tennessee minus 35, Giants minus 33, Chargers minus 31, Bucs minus 30, Washington Commanders minus three, Minnesota minus one.

Speaker 1 So the point is that the Vikings are just as shitty as those teams. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So I got a tweet from somebody today. It came across my desk.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 4 And it said, PFT care to comment on the fact that the Washington Commanders have a slightly worse point differential than the Minnesota Vikings. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And I replied to it, I said, yes, my comment is that the Washington Commanders will also not win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Right, exactly.

Speaker 4 And then I saw that I had a bunch of replies that it was also tagging you probably to that tweet right there.

Speaker 1 Yes, I quote tweeted it.

Speaker 4 This is the, that's the entire thing.

Speaker 1 It's a cell phone. Yes.

Speaker 4 You're correct. The Minnesota Vikings, they have a better point differential than the New York Giants.

Speaker 1 And the Tennessee Titans and the Chargers, all teams that are not going to win the Super Bowl. It was just a list of teams.

Speaker 4 What about the Cowboys, Big Cat?

Speaker 1 The Cowboys do not have a negative point differential.

Speaker 4 Oh, okay, interesting.

Speaker 1 It's a list of teams that we all agree will not be winning the Super Bowl, and that's you proved our point for us. Yes, thank you.
That was actually a great job by you.

Speaker 1 The 10-3 Vikings are on this list of six teams in the playoffs right now that are not going to win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 And Kirk Cousins playing great.

Speaker 1 Playing great.

Speaker 1 Justin Jefferson, best receiver in the league.

Speaker 4 This is not a knock against Kirk Cousins, believe it or not. Your defense stinks.
Your defense is trash. Kirk Cousins has actually improved against the Blitz and under pressure.

Speaker 4 He played as good as you could ever hope Kirk Cousins could play last week against the excuse me against the Lions and you lost because your defense can't stop anybody.

Speaker 1 The other tweet that has come across my desk that has made me laugh is the tweet that is the Packers to make the playoffs. So

Speaker 1 there's some people, this is the time of season where, you know, we talked about it with the Steelers

Speaker 1 and the Browns and the Raiders, like the win-out mentality. Like if you're one of those teams that's five and seven or five and eight, hey, what if we just went out?

Speaker 1 Well, the Packers have a path to the playoffs, and it was like Packers win out, and then

Speaker 1 the first and second thing were the Giants and Commanders both have to go one and three in their last four. Yeah.
They play each other. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So if either of them wins, which that's an if because they did tie.

Speaker 4 They could tie again.

Speaker 1 Then they just have to win one more game.

Speaker 1 So it's, you know, it is that season. It is.
We're just holding on for hope.

Speaker 4 Also in Monday Night Football, they debuted a new graphic graphic for the playoff picture. They replaced sniffing around.
I liked sniffing around. I did too.

Speaker 4 And the new phrase is now loitering that they're using. I don't like loitering.

Speaker 4 Loitering feels like it should be a subcategory after sniffing around of teams like the Packers that are going to be loitering on this graphic for the next couple weeks, but they're not going to make the playoffs.

Speaker 4 Right. Like mathematically alive, should be loitering.
So as far as I'm concerned, my power rankings go as thus.

Speaker 4 Number one, sniffing around. Number two, in the hunt.
Number three, loitering. So we'll see what Joe Buck has him do next week.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Ready to attack.

Speaker 4 Ready to attack. What was that from?

Speaker 10 No, I'm just thinking of

Speaker 1 Jake's.

Speaker 1 They're ready to attack.

Speaker 4 Ready to attack.

Speaker 1 There's also. I like that, Jake.
There's a narrative, and I think this happens

Speaker 1 pretty much every other year in the NFL when there's maybe not one team that's like super dominant, even though the Eagles have been super dominant,

Speaker 1 where everyone's like, the NFL is just trash.

Speaker 1 I push back on that being like, I think there are six really, really good teams. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And the only thing about the NFL, which is why we love the league, is that the best team and the worst team, there's not that much of a difference between them. And that's just how it works.

Speaker 4 We've got more great quarterbacks now than we've had in a very long time.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 For a while, the great quarterbacks, it was like, you've got Tom Brady, you've got Peyton Manning. You got Big Ben.
And then maybe you could put like Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers in there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and Phil Rivers was loitering.

Speaker 4 That was it. That was it.
Now we've got great quarterbacks everywhere.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I'm like very excited about the playoffs.

Speaker 4 I'm buying stock in the future of the NFL.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I am too. I just, it's a lazy argument.
I feel like every, again, every other year where it's like because there's not like three teams that are all have one loss, everyone's like, well,

Speaker 1 this season just sucks in the NFL. Everyone just sucks.

Speaker 1 No, I really do think there are six teams that are very, very good. And we talked about it on Sunday, but like those six teams will produce the Super Bowl winner.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm confident we put our life on it.

Speaker 4 The other subcategory of that graphic that we've always talked about is the don't look now team.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't have a don't look now team. I'm looking.

Speaker 4 I had the Cowboys, but they're no longer. Like people are looking at the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I think it's

Speaker 1 the Bengals? No. No, I think people are looking at the Bengals too because they went to the Super Bowl team.

Speaker 4 That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 Like, is there a don't look now team? Yeah, I think unfortunately, and I hate it because I don't want to fall back in this trap. I think it's the Chargers.

Speaker 1 I think the Chargers are the don't look now team.

Speaker 4 I think that they're the team that you don't want to play.

Speaker 1 The Ravens could be potentially the don't look now.

Speaker 4 If Lamar gets healthy, yeah. If Lamar gets healthy, I think the Ravens are definitely don't look now material.
Um, or the Dolphins, if Tua figures it out in the last couple weeks.

Speaker 1 Well, so

Speaker 1 the Dolphins, I'm Tua Non.

Speaker 1 There's a problem for the Dolphins this Saturday. I don't know if you saw the report.
Big problem.

Speaker 1 In

Speaker 1 Sunday night football, they played in L.A.

Speaker 1 It was 55 degrees, and a report came afterwards that the Dolphins had heaters on their sidelines.

Speaker 1 I'm going to guess that's not great for them having to go to Buffalo on Saturday night.

Speaker 4 You shouldn't smoke during NFL games.

Speaker 1 Billy, can you give us a weather report for Buffalo Saturday night? I'm going to say that

Speaker 1 that's the sign of a candy ass team, heaters for 55-degree weather. And just so we remind everyone, when the Dolphins are like decent and they go to a cold weather city at the end of the season,

Speaker 1 there is no uniform combo that is more candy-ass than what they have.

Speaker 1 I just envision every time the Dolphins have to play in a cold weather game, I envision Matt Moore getting knocked out in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 4 You can't play in the snow in the candy-ass, are they teal?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I don't know. Teal.

Speaker 4 If I don't know immediately what color your uniform is off the top of my head, if it's not a basic color, then your team sucks in the cold weather. They should

Speaker 1 see

Speaker 1 Aqua in the cold.

Speaker 4 Aqua doesn't exist in the cold.

Speaker 1 If the Dolphins were smart, they would actually have a cold weather alternate. Yes.
Like, just be like, hey,

Speaker 1 we're now dark blue. Or black.
Yeah, black or dark blue.

Speaker 4 Black in the snow.

Speaker 1 Yeah, these are our jerseys. It's not.

Speaker 4 It also would be also a different name for your team besides the dolphins. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Like just polar bears. Or sharks.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, like the snow dolphins. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The snowfish. What do you got, Billy?

Speaker 9 Very dry 30 degrees.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's, I think they might eat the heaters.

Speaker 1 Weather off

Speaker 1 Saturday, not Sunday. Oh, no.
No,

Speaker 1 Saturday night. It's Saturday night.
It's supposed to snow. Nighttime.

Speaker 4 Now, is it lake effect? Because you can get some higher degrees with the snow.

Speaker 1 Billy, Jake really enjoyed that moment. He really enjoyed it.

Speaker 9 No, the light snow showers are at 11 a.m.

Speaker 4 Well, for being our weather guy, Billy is definitely the worst on the show at actually reading the weather.

Speaker 9 I have the best tools, though.

Speaker 1 You do have the best tool. Yeah.

Speaker 10 And he knows how to open windows.

Speaker 1 And he knows how to. And

Speaker 4 you've got so many strengths. It's just one that I think you could improve on would be your weather-telling abilities.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Um, all right, other things we should talk about uh, the passing of Mike Leach, tragic, terrible.

Speaker 1 I think we should actually rename the Football Guy of the Year award for him because they that's that's hot in the streets right now. The NBA just renamed all their awards, yeah.

Speaker 1 So, motion to rename Football Guy of the Year Award to the Mike Leach Football Guy of the Year Award. I concur, yeah, everyone, vote, yay, yeah, yay.
Memes is saying no. Why are you saying no, memes?

Speaker 1 What are you saying no for? Yes, yes. Oh, okay, yes.
All right, sorry. For a second there, I was like, you just died.

Speaker 4 Hank said no.

Speaker 1 Hank did say no.

Speaker 9 Should we throw Madden in there, too?

Speaker 4 I was thinking about that earlier because

Speaker 4 people were saying that, you know, we got a lot of feedback saying we should rename the award after Michael, which I don't have a problem with, but I think John Madden should be a different award.

Speaker 1 I have

Speaker 1 a solution.

Speaker 1 John Madden should be Grit Week. Yes.
The John John Madden Grit Week because we're going to be in a bus. Yeah, the John Madden Grit Week.

Speaker 9 According to my records.

Speaker 1 We're just going to name everything.

Speaker 9 According to my records from when I've been in charge of the award every week, Mike Leach has been nominated 23 times.

Speaker 1 So it's his award. Eight times.
Yeah, it's his award.

Speaker 4 Mike Leach is such a unique personality, and people like Mike Leach, and it's tough to say people like Mike Leach because there's nobody like Mike Leach. He was a one-of-a-kind individual.

Speaker 4 He's the person. that makes college football fun.
Yes.

Speaker 4 Like having those unique personalities, doing things their own way, the way that he used to interact with the media and go off on these tangents about things that had nothing to do with sports whatsoever.

Speaker 1 Fighting mascots. He wasn't being a pirate.

Speaker 4 What I love is he's just, he was unapologetically himself in a sport that sometimes

Speaker 4 forces you to conform to what things have always been like before you got there. And Mike Leach was like...

Speaker 4 unapologetically himself throughout his entire career and he made the sport so much more fun.

Speaker 1 And he also, like,

Speaker 1 I felt like he was having fun when he was coaching. And you can't say that for a lot of good coaches.
Like, I don't think Nick Sabin has fun. I don't think Kirby Smart is having fun.

Speaker 1 Mike Leach had fun, and you could feel it. You could sense it the way that he interacted with his players.
He also was just a goddamn good football coach. So I was looking at his career.

Speaker 1 So just talking about his coaching tree. These are the names under him for his coaching tree.
Sonny Dykes in the college football playoffs.

Speaker 1 Dana Holgerson, Seth Luttrell, Lincoln Riley, ever heard of him? Art Ryles, Dave Aranda, Cliff Kingsbury, Neil Brown, Josh Huipel.

Speaker 1 What he touched and everyone that came after him, he has such an impact on all of college football. And I was looking up his seasons as well.

Speaker 1 The way he turned around Texas Tech and Washington State, like he wasn't coaching Blue Bloods. He was coaching teams that no one else wanted to coach, and he made them really, really good.

Speaker 1 So, in the 10 seasons at Texas Tech, he was 84 and 43. He won 84 games in 10 seasons.
In the 21 seasons prior, Texas Tech won 113 games. Yeah, no,

Speaker 4 he made Texas Tech a thing.

Speaker 1 They had their first 11-win season in 30 years under Mike Leach. And then at Washington State, in eight seasons at Washington State, he had 55 wins.

Speaker 1 In the eight seasons prior, Washington State had 29 wins. He doubled it.
And then he also has the only 11-win team in Washington State history in 2018.

Speaker 1 He was just a phenomenal, phenomenal college football coach, legendary guy. We had him.
We were lucky enough to have him on the show.

Speaker 1 We even got duped for people, longtime AWLs, PFT and I, in our old studio. It used to be, there was a control room that controlled the radio and the podcasting.

Speaker 1 And we had Mike Leach set up to have him on.

Speaker 1 And somehow a radio caller got through.

Speaker 1 And for 10 minutes, we interviewed a fake fake Mike Leach, being like, the guy was doing a Mike Leach voice, and we were just looking at each other the whole time, like, I don't think this is Mike Leach.

Speaker 1 And then we finally asked the question to like nail him. He's like, the guy's like, yeah, I'm not Mike Leach.

Speaker 9 I have a confession to make.

Speaker 11 What?

Speaker 9 Is that you? That was my fault in the radio room.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 9 They got the wrong caller from Barstall Radio.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I didn't know it.

Speaker 4 It was a crazy moment to be like,

Speaker 4 because at the start, we were talking to this guy, and he was going off on these tangents. And at first, we were like, well, Mike Leach would go off on these weird tangents.

Speaker 4 And then progressively, the interview unraveled, and we were like, okay, this is probably not him. It does figure that Billy was the one responsible for that.
That makes complete sense.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and we were lucky enough to have him on, go listen to that interview.

Speaker 4 Oh, we got into it with him about whether or not the sun was hot or cold.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 4 That was actually, we should put that clip out. That was a very funny clip with Mike Leach.
Like, that's exactly the type of hypothetical argument that this dude lived for. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And not only did he take those schools and turn them around, but he actually changed the entire sport of football.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
With his offense and how mummy, like,

Speaker 4 you can trace almost every electric offense in the NFL and college football in the last 10, 15 years directly back to what Mike Leach invented.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and the way that he played the game was revolutionary. And it's just, yeah, I mean, he's just an all-time, all-time football guy, human.

Speaker 1 And it's devastating.

Speaker 9 I'm pretty sure he popularized the free play for Verts, where if a team- Yeah, I know every team should run that first play of the bowl game.

Speaker 1 That would be awesome. Uh, last two quick Mike Leach stories I wanted to share.
Um, this one, I, I didn't, I kind of forgot, I either forgot it or I never realized it. But in

Speaker 1 2018, or sorry, 2008, I want to say, um,

Speaker 1 Texas Tech had really bad special teams. Mike Leach literally pulled a kid who was doing a field goal competition during the game, like one of those win-free tuition.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He pulled him off the field and he made him his extra point kicker and primary kicker for three seasons. That's incredible.

Speaker 1 Like you can actually see the clip of the kid hitting the extra point or the field goal for the free tuition. And he had a staffer go grab him before he could get off the field.

Speaker 1 And he's like, you're our kicker now.

Speaker 1 And he said it in his 60-minutes interview. He's like, well,

Speaker 1 he hit a kick in front of a full stadium for free tuition. So I figured he could hit a kick extra point for us.
That's true. Next three seasons.

Speaker 9 And he staged a scholarship.

Speaker 1 He saved a scholarship. For someone else.

Speaker 4 He's also an all-time rugby guy. He was a rugby player in college and then implemented a lot of stuff with that game into his air raid offense, believe it or not.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And he's so just a tremendous loss.
Really, really sad.

Speaker 1 We loved him.

Speaker 1 And the last thing I'll leave with Mike Leach, because it's just perfect Mike Leach, and also kind of tells you, like, all the tributes are awesome, and it's sad, but also remember who Mike Leach was.

Speaker 1 When he did an E60 interview with Jeremy Schapp a few years ago, Jeremy Schapp asked, When people write the Mike Leach obituary, how do you want to be remembered?

Speaker 1 And he responded, Well, that's their problem. What do I care? I'm dead.

Speaker 1 So it's like a perfect, perfect Mike Leach.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I love him. I mean,

Speaker 1 he's one of the best characters that football's ever had.

Speaker 4 So, this is my personal favorite Mike Leach story.

Speaker 4 This was at Texas Tech. Lincoln Riley overheard this.
So, Lincoln Riley was the one that told this story. He got a phone call, picked it up, said, Hey, how's it going?

Speaker 4 And he listened for a second and asked, where are you calling from? He kept talking on the phone, and I eventually sort of tuned out. Now, a short phone conversation for Coach Leach is an hour.

Speaker 4 So, he was talking about this and that, and I was kind of hunkered down working on my own stuff. At some point, the call got dropped.
They must have lost perception. Coach said, can you hear me?

Speaker 4 Are you there? Then he closed his old flip phone, swung it back open, and re-dialed. He said, hey, sorry, I just lost you.

Speaker 4 And they resumed their conversation for another 30 minutes or so before Coach Leach finally hung up. After he was done, we started talking.
I said, hey, Coach, who was that on the phone?

Speaker 1 And he said, oh, they had the wrong number. Yeah, I mean, that's Mike Leach.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Just talk to anyone.

Speaker 1 He talked with a stranger for an hour on the phone because they dialed the wrong number. He would talk to anyone, and he was,

Speaker 1 yeah, yeah, the absolute best. The absolute best.
So, you know, R.I.P. Mike Leach, but reminder,

Speaker 1 he didn't care because he's dead. So, you know, the tributes are awesome, and we will be renaming the Football Guy of the Year award in his memoriam.
And, yeah, I feel like that's a good way to do it.

Speaker 1 We've got to make a real trophy now. Yeah.
Because Mike Leach would want it. Maybe it's just a pirate sword.

Speaker 4 How about this? I was going to say a football with an eye patch and a sword. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like a pirate football. Yeah.
I like that. Or maybe it's a sword, and the handle of the sword is made out of pigskin.
That could work.

Speaker 4 Or it's a sword that's going through a football. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Like, okay, we'll come up with it.

Speaker 1 And yeah, that will be awesome. All right, let's.

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Speaker 1 So, hot seat cool thrown. Hank is not here.
Memes is in his place.

Speaker 1 Memes.

Speaker 4 Take it away, memes. Put the camera on yourself, memes.

Speaker 11 It is. Okay.
My cool throne is hockey fights.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're starting with Cool Throne.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Okay, interesting.

Speaker 1 Hot Seat Cool Throne is the name of the segment. All right, all right.
Hey, memes. Off the street.

Speaker 4 Man, memes has probably listened to more part of my take than anybody on planet Earth, but it's different once you step into the box.

Speaker 1 He just does it different.

Speaker 4 Bright lights on you.

Speaker 1 Goofy style. Your cool throne is hockey fights?

Speaker 11 Hockey fights. So there was a massive hockey fight between Bruins fans and Coyote's fans.

Speaker 11 And somebody wound up getting their finger bitten off.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, hell yeah.

Speaker 4 PLL style.

Speaker 1 That was an awesome fight. Yeah, there were cops diving in the pile.
Yeah, that cop, if you didn't see it, go just Google it. It was basically a huge brawl.

Speaker 1 And then a cop decided instead of like, let me break this up, he just jumped on top of the pile and took out like five people with a second. Oh, God.

Speaker 4 I would like to just acknowledge the fact that there are Coyotes fans out there that care enough about hockey to get into a fight.

Speaker 1 That's pretty cool. And also, shout out to Coyotes fans who kind of won the fight with the lower ground, which is a very hard thing to do in a stadium.

Speaker 1 Not really a stadium, though.

Speaker 4 Whatever it is. It's a college.

Speaker 9 I don't understand why people keep fish hooking people. It gets your finger bitten off every time.

Speaker 1 Well, if you get the fish hook in correctly, it won't get bitten off.

Speaker 9 I know, but no one's good at that nowadays.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 there was...

Speaker 1 My college roommates and I had a fish hook phase, and it ruined some...

Speaker 1 trust relationships.

Speaker 1 If you get a fish hook in, you can't get it out.

Speaker 4 I kind of think that fish hooks should be allowed in fights because you're playing a dangerous game.

Speaker 4 if you if you miss the fish hook yeah your fingers get bitten off but if you get it if you get it you win you got him good

Speaker 1 and then my hot seat is max oh oh why is that he doesn't know ball he does know ball and his comments yeah we had a lot of people commenting on max's lack of ball knowledge uh max you were saying you got hammered in the dms people just coming at you left and right about not knowing ball yeah it was a bad look it was a bad look for me not knowing ball and it was bad look for for this podcast.

Speaker 12 And I would like to apologize for everyone, to everyone, for thinking that you couldn't advance on a fumble.

Speaker 1 Okay, so, and yeah, I mean, it was a fun thing.

Speaker 4 It's funny when you say it out loud.

Speaker 1 Yeah, probably the worst thing that could ever be done.

Speaker 1 I love the pop quiz on the blog. Go ahead and check it out.
Okay, so check out the pop quiz. And then, Max, you said you had one person who DM'd you like a script to come back at us.

Speaker 12 So I thought that that's what it was because it was a list of

Speaker 12 it was an essay full of 10 different stats on football. But then when I did a deep dive into it, it was just how the Eagles are the best team in the NFL.

Speaker 1 So, give us all time. Give us some.

Speaker 12 The Eagles are on pace right now

Speaker 12 to have the highest sacks per game of any team in the last 20 years.

Speaker 1 Wow, you know ball. Yep, yep.

Speaker 12 The Eagles are on pace for the most rushing touchdowns by a team in the Super Bowl era with 35 touchdowns.

Speaker 1 Wow, that's ball. Yep.
Ball is life.

Speaker 12 Jalen Hurts is on pace for the second most rushing touchdowns in a season by a quarterback, only getting beat out by Cam Newton.

Speaker 4 I don't like that stat.

Speaker 4 If you say like on pace to have the second most, that's not that cool.

Speaker 1 This is also just so funny because it's in the mind of a Philly fan where it's like, we made fun of Max for not knowing ball. It's obviously very tongue-in-cheek because it was just a silly comment.

Speaker 1 And this Eagles fan was like, they think we don't know ball. Well, here's all these facts about the Eagles being awesome.
Joe Bird said.

Speaker 12 This one's good for you, PFT.

Speaker 12 The second quarter will be the highest amount of points scored by any team in any quarter ever.

Speaker 1 For

Speaker 1 the Eagles.

Speaker 4 Yeah, for the Eagles. So you said that earlier.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because they fucking dominate.

Speaker 4 You know what?

Speaker 4 This is terrible news for the Cowboys because I looked it up after the show. Dak Prescott leads the league in second quarter interceptions by far.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 4 He's like the worst. The Eagles are the best second-quarter team.

Speaker 1 Hammer the Birds. Hammer the Birds.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Dak Prescott stinks.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I think part of your hatred towards Dak still stems from the fact that we had like two years where we would debate Carson Wentz versus Dak Prescott.

Speaker 4 Now you hate Carson Wentz, but you still hate Dak because of those debates.

Speaker 12 I still think if Carson had the opportunity to do that,

Speaker 1 you don't know more. You don't know more.

Speaker 4 We just reactivated

Speaker 1 Carson Wentz. I know.
No, no.

Speaker 1 All right. PFT, your hot seat cool torrent.

Speaker 4 Yeah, got a couple of them. My hot seat is chess boxing integrity.

Speaker 4 There's a scandal in the world of chess boxing, which is a uniquely Russian sport, I think, where it's just straight up you box for one round, and then you play chess.

Speaker 4 And then you go back to boxing, then you play chess again, and you can win either by knockout or by checkmating your opponent.

Speaker 4 Which is it's tough because as you're playing chess, you take the breaks, you get hit in the head, then you get worse at chess as it goes along. So there's a big scandal going on over there.

Speaker 4 They had an event two nights ago, and in this scandal,

Speaker 4 it was between Andrea Botez, who came into this office and played speed chess against us, and her opponent.

Speaker 4 And Andrea Botez should have been awarded a technical knockout after the referee initiated the fourth standing count of the fight. And then the ref didn't know the rules.
The ref didn't know boxing.

Speaker 4 Oh, no. And so they gave it to Dina Belenkaya, who gave her the win.
And then afterwards, they said, wait, we fucked up. They get to share the belt.
That doesn't make much sense to me.

Speaker 4 I think they're trying to to set up for a rematch down the line, but I want to go to one of these chess boxing events because it sounds amazing. Yeah, it does.
It sounds like the best time ever.

Speaker 4 Like, if we could incorporate chess boxing into Rough and Rowdy, I think that'd be cool to do like one time for one match at some point. Yes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Billy.

Speaker 4 Billy, you kept leaning over and touching the mic like you were about to say something.

Speaker 9 Those Twitch streamers were the ones boxing?

Speaker 4 Yeah, she was. Andrea Botez was doing it.
Yeah. And Andrea Botez was by far the better boxer.
Badass. There's just a few sports out there that are, you can tell that they're just Russian.

Speaker 4 Like the slap thing, the slap combo.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're like, how can we make this more Russian? Let's just beat the fuck out of each other.

Speaker 9 Have you seen

Speaker 9 telephone booth fights?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 telephone booth fights. How about the Russian

Speaker 1 mass boxing in the woods? Have you ever seen those? Where it's like 100 dudes versus 100 dudes? Yeah, those are cool fights.

Speaker 4 Or they do team UFC, too. Step into the ring, and then it usually gets at the end of those fights.
It's always like four against one, and it's just some guy on the ground just getting stomped out.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 9 Well, actually, speaking of this, this is going to be my cool throne, chucking nucks. But basically, China and India had one of those over a border dispute.
That's like India-China border disparity.

Speaker 1 That's how it should be. Yeah, no guns.
All wars.

Speaker 4 All wars in general should be like 100,000 people from each army squaring up on a beach.

Speaker 1 Imagine just sending like a bunch of Philly fans after

Speaker 1 they lose the World Series. Our Coyotes fans.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Fucking kill them.

Speaker 4 You know what? We should update. If John Lennon was alive today, he'd do imagine, but he'd just be like, imagine if instead of nuclear wars, we just fucking threw down.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Everyone gets home for dinner.
Chuck Knox.

Speaker 1 My cool throne is criminals.

Speaker 4 Criminals are on the cool throne because there's a massive fire burning right now at the New York Police Department's evidence locker out in Brooklyn.

Speaker 4 Like, the entire building's burning down right now. So that means that criminals are just going to be able to get off with everything.

Speaker 4 Basically, basically, if you've committed a crime in New York where they need evidence for you, that evidence just got burned up today.

Speaker 1 Uh-oh. El Chapo.

Speaker 9 They probably get so high smelling that smoke.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and like some janky-ass drugs, probably. That's true.
It's probably crack cocaine.

Speaker 1 I'm looking at the picture right now.

Speaker 8 That's a big fire.

Speaker 4 It looks pretty cool.

Speaker 1 That's a fucking big-ass fire.

Speaker 4 Also, my other cool throw is Big Ben.

Speaker 4 We talked about Big Ben

Speaker 4 on Monday's show

Speaker 4 speculating that he would want to come back and play for the Steelers this year. On his podcast, He said that he's thought about coming back to play for the 49ers.
Oh, wow.

Speaker 4 So he's volunteering his services.

Speaker 1 That's something that

Speaker 1 Kyle Shanahan did not ask for.

Speaker 4 Kyle Shanahan is like, get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 1 Kyle Shanahan should

Speaker 4 preemptively block Big Ben's telephone.

Speaker 1 I also want to play for the 49ers for doing unrealistic things.

Speaker 4 Me too. That'd be great.
I think I could fit in nicely. Like, you take Big Ben's skill set and you take what the 49ers are looking for.

Speaker 4 Besides the fact that he's tall, I don't think that there's anything about Big Ben that would lend the 49ers.

Speaker 1 He literally wouldn't throw over the middle of the field. Ever.
Yeah, like that's all you need to do for the 49ers.

Speaker 4 He would never go under center in a million years. Can you imagine how bad?

Speaker 1 He would fall down trying to hand off to Christian McCaffrey.

Speaker 4 I think that you could name a quarterback in the NFL right now, and they're probably better suited for the 49ers than Big Ben is.

Speaker 1 Yes, it doesn't matter who.

Speaker 1 Every single quarterback is a good thing.

Speaker 4 Now, that doesn't mean I wouldn't watch it. No, if he plays.

Speaker 1 Every second I play it.

Speaker 4 That's incredible. Many times over.

Speaker 1 Big Ben would probably demand to wear a Steelers uniform while on the 49ers. Yeah.
Come on, guys. All right.
My hot seat is Chris Beard. Holy shit, that guy's a scumbag.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 So I didn't really read too many of the details after the fact where he was accused of choking somebody repeatedly. His fiancé.

Speaker 4 Okay, when I see choked repeatedly, at that point, I move on from that person.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I don't know what Texas will do.
Have they announced, Jake?

Speaker 1 You're a big Chris Beard guy. No, I'm not.

Speaker 10 They suspended him, I believe, indefinitely, and they had their their associate take over last night. They beat Rice in overtime.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I did take Rice plus 24. I felt like that was, you know, that was standing up for what's right, but also like your coach literally was in jail two hours ago.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Probably not focused on the game. So we'll see.

Speaker 4 So are they going to fire him?

Speaker 10 We'll see. It's a legal matter.
I don't want to say something.

Speaker 1 He is good at coaching, PFT. He is.
That's literally what. Like the Board of Regents of Texas, that's what they're doing.

Speaker 1 They're sitting in a big meeting right now being like, well, we got to fire him. Domestic violence.
He choked a woman. He's a bad person.

Speaker 1 And then some guy just like,

Speaker 1 we're number two in the country. Pretty good.

Speaker 4 Red McComb stands up in the back room.

Speaker 1 He's like,

Speaker 4 players still singing Eyes of Texas after the game, though.

Speaker 10 A week ago today, I was saw him at the garden.

Speaker 1 Oh, so you are big, so you know him. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 What did you tell him?

Speaker 1 What was that conversation?

Speaker 4 What was that conversation like between you and me?

Speaker 1 I did not talk to him.

Speaker 1 Hello, what's up? Nope.

Speaker 9 What were you going to say, Billy? Does he ever lose a lot of close games?

Speaker 1 What do you mean?

Speaker 4 You're trying to make a choking joke, Billy. It's very inappropriate.

Speaker 1 That's okay.

Speaker 4 I will say, Big Cat, much like you took Rice plus 24, I'm dropping Texas from my power rankings. Oh, entirely.
So now it's just Illinois number one.

Speaker 1 Do they have us?

Speaker 1 I don't think Illinois is number one anymore. In my power rankings.
Oh, in your power rankings. Yes, they just lost Texas.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I don't care. I saw them play them.

Speaker 4 I saw them play Texas, and I put them number one in my power rankings.

Speaker 1 Now Texas is out. Is Wisconsin in in your bracket yet? Yeah.
Yeah. It's in the top 25, buddy.
Yes. Okay.
Yeah. Are you doing a bracket this year?

Speaker 10 No, but that can just be the joke.

Speaker 1 No, it's not a joke.

Speaker 1 I told you I want you to make a bracket and make sure they're in.

Speaker 10 I'll do one eventually. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Not before Selection Sunday.

Speaker 10 Yes, before Selection Sunday.

Speaker 1 Okay, they're in.

Speaker 4 By the way, when I was watching that game between Illinois and Texas last week,

Speaker 4 shocked that Kofi Cockburn is not Coburn.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Coburn is not. And I call him Coffee Cockburn.
Yeah. Because he's McDonald's lawsuit.
He's not there anymore. But shocked that he's not there.
And he should be back in school.

Speaker 4 Like, he could probably make millions of dollars there. Instead, he's playing in Japan or in Taiwan or something.
I think he's going to transfer.

Speaker 1 I guess he just

Speaker 4 tough because

Speaker 4 he's just so big. Yeah.
And such a big presence. He should be back at Illinois.

Speaker 1 Yes, he should. And then my cool throne is anyone who wants a PS5 for Christmas.

Speaker 1 Because if you go to stellobluecoffee.com today, just today, and you buy any coffee, you could potentially get a golden mug. We're doing a golden mug.

Speaker 1 So you could open up a box and it could be a golden mug, and that means you get a PS5. And if you do the Stello Blue Coffee Club membership, you get five entries.

Speaker 1 I've always wanted to do a golden something. Golden ticket, golden mug.
So I have five PS5s. You know who would love that? Some

Speaker 4 Grandpa Joe.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he would. Hank only.
Golden ticket. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hank probably is going to try to rig this. I won't let Hank rig my golden mug promotion.

Speaker 1 That's a guarantee.

Speaker 4 Redefine Prent, Henry Lockwood, not eligible.

Speaker 1 Not eligible. But yeah, go to stellabluecoffee.com.
You buy anything

Speaker 1 today, Wednesday, and you could potentially win a PS5.

Speaker 1 And they're very hard to get. They were like, I was in a meeting today.
They're like, it was not easy to get them, but we got them all.

Speaker 1 And they actually have a Stella Blue Coffee skin on them, which is kind of cool. Billy, you also cannot win this.
Okay. Actually, no, you can.
You can.

Speaker 9 No, if I start gaming again, I'm going to have no time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you can win it.

Speaker 1 Billy's talking about

Speaker 5 gaming like Billy wins the

Speaker 1 fire.

Speaker 4 I feel like it's a heroin issue. Oh, if I fall back off that wagon.

Speaker 9 My hot seat is Sam Bankman Freed. He was officially arrested in the Bahamas.

Speaker 1 You're in jail, bitch.

Speaker 4 And he's, yeah. So.

Speaker 1 Do you know what? I was thinking about it earlier. Like, the worst part for him is, you know, maybe not even the fact that he's going to jail, committed fraud, stole a bunch of people's money.

Speaker 1 It's the fact that, like, to the regular world, I count myself in that where I'm not really into crypto. He just got exposed as being the biggest dork alive.

Speaker 1 Like, I saw a picture of him, and I heard his voice, and I was like, this guy's a fucking dork. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, he was kind of living undercover where it's like he had all his Bitcoin bros and he was living in Bahamas, living the high life.

Speaker 1 And now that he's like crossed over to the normal people, know who he is, like, dork.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I also think the fact that people call him SBF, like, that's, it sounds way cooler. Like, now that I see Sam, he is a Sam Bankman Freeze.
Yeah. He's not an S, he's not an SBF.

Speaker 1 SBF sounds like someone that Obama would drone strike.

Speaker 4 Yeah, well, SBF sounds.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 Like, he does sound like a dude with some shit to him.

Speaker 4 Now, they're saying that he was doing a Twitter space yesterday. And I feel like everything I know about this guy comes from him doing a Twitter space.

Speaker 1 I'm not a lawyer.

Speaker 4 If I was a lawyer, I imagine my first piece of advice to my clients would be like, just stay off Twitter spaces for a while.

Speaker 1 Well, that was the thing.

Speaker 4 He still broadcast everything.

Speaker 1 He did like all these shows and live interviews where he basically people were like, what happened? He'd be like, eh, we kind of got confused with some stuff. Yeah.
And yeah, so he's a dork.

Speaker 1 I would just say,

Speaker 1 he lived in the, there's never been a person who's wasted the Bahamas more than him because you know he went to the beach with his shirt on.

Speaker 4 That's what I thought about him

Speaker 4 when I was doing my initial research. But then I've been educated and he was just having meth-fueled orgies.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was, but still

Speaker 1 he was going to the beach with his shirt on. Yeah.

Speaker 4 He does not look like a Bahamas guy. I did hear that he also lived right right next door to Dan Snyder.
Oh. So hopefully he gets caught up in some of this investigation.
I would assume so.

Speaker 4 But just if you if you're under indictment or might be under indictment for something, just like don't do Twitter spaces. Yeah.
Is that that hard to do? He's dork. Stay offline.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Your cool throne?

Speaker 9 My cool throne was Chucking Nucks and

Speaker 9 in the environment. We have found this nuclear fission breakthrough where we might have unlimited energy.

Speaker 4 Fission? Are you talking about fishing? Fusion?

Speaker 1 Fishing for nuclear I think it's fishing. We got a fishing?

Speaker 1 Fission? Fission. Fission?

Speaker 9 F-I-S-S-I-O-N.

Speaker 1 Fission. Fission.

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 1 it's fishing. I think

Speaker 1 you're talking about nuclear fusion.

Speaker 9 I think fusion and fission might be different.

Speaker 4 They're different things.

Speaker 4 We've been doing nuclear fission. I think when you said

Speaker 1 when you said that, I thought we were literally going out on a boat and we were trying to pull up some nuclear shit.

Speaker 4 No, it's like fishing with dynamite, except you're dropping A-bombs in there.

Speaker 9 I think it's fission. I think that's the proper place.

Speaker 4 I think you're wrong.

Speaker 4 I'm pretty sure that we've been doing nuclear fission for a while. Now we're doing nuclear fission.

Speaker 7 But now we have a big breakthrough. This is fusion, though.

Speaker 1 We brought in

Speaker 1 100 pounds. This is fusion.

Speaker 9 The difference between fusion and fission, fusion is where two light atomic nuclei.

Speaker 1 Okay, this is way too complicated.

Speaker 4 I'm just going to Google nuclear fusion, and then I'm going to be like, see, Billy, I'm right. Okay.

Speaker 7 Nuclear fusion.

Speaker 4 Yeah, all the top stories. Scientists achieved nuclear fusion energy breakthrough 37 minutes ago.

Speaker 1 Nuclear fishing.

Speaker 1 In the grand scheme of things, a fish killed by nuclear power stations pale into insignificance against catch of the monstrous goal. Okay, so you can fish for nuclear fish.

Speaker 1 All right, Jake, you're hot seat cool thrown.

Speaker 10 My hot seat's Harry Kane. Yeah.
Couldn't make a PK under pressure, but the Syracuse men's soccer team did. PKs in the national championship over Indiana last night.

Speaker 4 Best way to decide a champion. Wow.

Speaker 4 It was a great strike, too. It was pure class.
Wow. Upper 90.

Speaker 10 First national title.

Speaker 1 Congrats, Jake.

Speaker 4 Well in for the lads.

Speaker 1 I know you're huge because you're Syracuse soccer. Yep.

Speaker 4 Syracuse football.

Speaker 10 Syracuse Gators, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And Texas basketball. Nope.
Those are your teams.

Speaker 10 Never been to Austin.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 10 My cool throne is the wild meter.

Speaker 1 Buckle up.

Speaker 4 Oh, no. I have a story to tell.
All right, hold on.

Speaker 1 Wait, let me get up and then I'm going to sit down. Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. I'm sitting.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Here we go.

Speaker 10 In 2002, LeBron James was in high school, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay, yep. Yep.
Checks out.

Speaker 10 He had a nationally televised game against Oak Hill. Okay.

Speaker 10 Carmelo Anthony's alma mater.

Speaker 1 Oak Hill Academy. Okay.
Oak Hill Academy. Yeah, please.

Speaker 10 On December 12, 2002, LeBron had a dunk off a steal in the first quarter. He had seven first quarter points on ESPN too.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 10 December 12th, 2002. Okay.

Speaker 10 Yesterday. Yeah.
December 12th, 2022, on ESPN 2. Same channel, exactly 20 years to the day.
Bronny James threw it out of the kitchen.

Speaker 1 Is Bronny James related to LeBron? He is his son. Okay.
All right.

Speaker 10 He threw down a dunk off a steal against, I don't know if I'm pronouncing this right, Kian Anthony, Carmelo's son, to give his team seven first quarter points on ESPN 2.

Speaker 1 What? Wow. Same channel.

Speaker 1 Same day. That's the simulation.

Speaker 7 That's the same type of dunk.

Speaker 1 Nuclear fission broke

Speaker 4 off the atmosphere.

Speaker 1 That is wild. Against

Speaker 10 Carmelo's son.

Speaker 1 That is wild. Yeah.

Speaker 10 Like.

Speaker 1 Wild. I'm coming to say but look at this.

Speaker 4 Look at this. You think Carmelo's son's going to go to Syracuse?

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 He's waiting. This is LeBron.

Speaker 10 LeBron and his son dunking on the same spot on the court 20 years later.

Speaker 4 At the basket? At the basket? Yeah. Same spot.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 That's wild.

Speaker 1 No, they dunked.

Speaker 4 There's a net there and everything. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Wow. Same channel, same day, 20 years.
That's crazy.

Speaker 4 Both of you.

Speaker 1 That is wild, Jake.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 St. Carmelo's cordon.
St. Carmelo's son.
Same.

Speaker 1 Right under the New York team.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you could dunk them from the left side or from the middle. That is wild.
Right.

Speaker 1 Right plug. That's wild.

Speaker 1 That is a true wild. That 20 years to the day.

Speaker 4 That makes me crazy. That's also a want to feel old.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's a want to feel old, and we live in a simulation.
Yeah. All those things wrapped up into one.
Okay, that was great, Jake. Wild.
Thank you. Wild indeed.

Speaker 1 All right, let's get to our interviews. We got Taylor Decker.
Awesome interview. AWL.

Speaker 4 Do you think LeBron James watching that is like, please keep Delante Westchild away from my son?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, we got Taylor Decker, Will Levis.

Speaker 1 Give it up for Chicago.

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Speaker 1 all right we now welcome on a very special guest it is taylor decker from the detroit lions uh little back story You weren't on our radar and then we got a text saying you're a huge AWL.

Speaker 1 The Lions are hot. We're like, fuck yeah, let's have them on.
So let's start with the Lions being hot.

Speaker 15 Like the we we we spent sunday night talking about how the lions are legitimately good i know you've talked about it sol same old lions gets talked about a lot in detroit are you guys legitimately a good team i would say right now yeah man i mean we're we are rolling right now we got that little lightning in a bottle and uh man i said it a couple weeks ago after the thanksgiving loss actually they're like Man, this isn't the same old team right now.

Speaker 15 And my DMs got lit up about that. People were sick about me saying that.
They're like, Oh,

Speaker 15 you're full of shit. You don't know.
But I'm like, Man, like, we're we're different, man. Uh, we're rolling.
And Dan Campbell, I know you guys love Dan. Yep.

Speaker 15 I mean, he was saying it all year, man. We were in like one score games, and we were close in a lot of games, and we were just like right there.

Speaker 15 And uh, I don't know, we just figured it out recently. And man, it's it's sweet, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 4 you, you said it. You guys are rolling right now.
I, I would, I would agree with that 100%.

Speaker 4 And after those, you've had a number of close losses this year, and we kind of joke around. We said on Monday's show, what's your favorite Lions win of the season?

Speaker 4 Mine was the three-point loss against the Eagles. Big Cats was a three-point loss against the Bills.

Speaker 4 There's a small element of truth to that, though. You guys are playing legitimate Super Bowl contenders, and you're within one or two plays of beating them on a pretty consistent basis.

Speaker 4 What has the message been after those games to make you really believe

Speaker 4 this is not a fluke we're good as opposed to being like oh no like we always find a way to lose those close ones

Speaker 15 i think dan has been pretty consistent with his message the entire time the entire season even dating back to last year uh you know we'd be in some close games and we just wouldn't be able to finish it out and i think it just becomes a maturity thing because like we are super young team like I'm the longest tenured guy by like two or three years and I'm only in my seventh year.

Speaker 15 And it was just like, man, we just got to figure out a way to win. And like go out there and like, just play confident, man.
Just like, don't be scared of nobody. Like, you're out here for a reason.

Speaker 15 You're on this team for a reason. So

Speaker 15 just making those plays at the end of the game has been huge because you look at the Minnesota game this past week. Yeah.
We should have closed up the game the first time.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Come on. Yeah, we always like to play the game of like, okay, there's the best player on the team and then there's the most important player on the team.

Speaker 4 We all know that Jack Fox is the best player on the lines. So who would you say is the most important player on the lines?

Speaker 15 Oh, man.

Speaker 15 You're putting me in a blind here, huh?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 15 I mean, I would say right now, our quarterback is on fire, man. He is killing me right now.
And

Speaker 15 you need a good offensive line for that, man. So I think I play an important position, but, man, our O-line's been good.
Our defense has been good, but I think our quarterback has been...

Speaker 15 on fire right now.

Speaker 15 He has.

Speaker 1 And he's a good friend of ours. Have you noticed like a change in the huddle with Jared? And, And

Speaker 1 he's playing probably the best ball of his career.

Speaker 1 Has there been like a moment where you're like, oh, things have started to click and he just, the confidence or whatever it may be, the way he's commanding the offense, has there been that moment this year where it kind of turned?

Speaker 15 From a big guy's perspective, looking at it over like the past six weeks, his pocket presence and his confidence in the pocket to just sit in there and trust the protection has been like really, really good.

Speaker 15 And if we know where he's at, we can block for him.

Speaker 15 we're a talented enough group and then he's just making those plays man he's making some tight window throws we got some receivers snagging snagging some crazy catches and uh i think that's the biggest thing from my perspective has been him in the pocket he's been awesome in the pocket yeah especially with some of the touch groups we've been facing so you mentioned uh the vikings game and closing that game out Obviously, the big pass to Pineus Sewell, which was awesome.

Speaker 1 When you're drawing that up in

Speaker 1 practice, did you advocate for yourself? Were you like, Coach Campbell, I've caught two touchdown passes? Like, why am I not the guy getting this pass? Were you kind of pissed? Like,

Speaker 1 that should have been you.

Speaker 15 I wish.

Speaker 15 So we've been running routes in practice for like four or five weeks. I think they've been kind of tuning it up.
The whole O-line runs pat and go where we just like run beat balls and catch them.

Speaker 15 And I think we've been doing that so we can get some catches. And then the media doesn't think anything's going on.

Speaker 15 And then that play to Panay was supposed to be in the red zone for a touchdown, but we needed just a first down in the middle of the field. And I was like,

Speaker 15 shit, man.

Speaker 15 I think if I get three, I'm like maybe leading active players and touchdowns for lineman. I'm like, come on, man.
Get me canon or something.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, it was annoying. Yeah, it was an awesome play.
And when you're in the huddle with it, is there like...

Speaker 1 Like he calls that play, does everyone's eyes light up? Like, all right, here we go. Like, this is going to be sick.

Speaker 15 Well, it was set up the play before. We had Panay report as an eligible tight end and just go in a flock motion to kick out the DN on a run.

Speaker 15 So we were kind of setting it up the whole game, running jumbo tight ends and stuff like that. And then we call that play, and obviously the first down, he slaps the dude after the play.

Speaker 15 And then, I mean, it was his

Speaker 15 son was at the game, so he just had a baby not too long ago. And that was the first game his son was at.
So, I mean, super cool for him. So

Speaker 15 I was happy for him. He's my guy.

Speaker 4 That's a sign of maturity on your part, like aging into being comfortable with being the number two receiver option on the offensive line at this point.

Speaker 1 You're like taking him under your wing.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 15 I think my points per reception is like insane right now. I think I'm like two catches, two touchdowns, like eight-yard average or something.

Speaker 4 Most efficient wide receiver of all time in the NFL. Yeah.

Speaker 15 Possession receiver.

Speaker 4 Yeah. So speaking of Jared,

Speaker 4 what are his gifts like to the offensive line? What's like when it comes to time for Christmas or the end of the season, does he get you guys like Yeti coolers or is he like a PlayStation guy?

Speaker 4 What does that look like?

Speaker 15 I think this year it's going to be kind of like a gift suite. And I've heard

Speaker 15 some of the gifts are going to be pretty top-notch. And I get to pick first.
So I think one of them this year, I think it was an ATV in it this year.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's awesome.

Speaker 15 And it goes down from there. And then

Speaker 15 last year, I asked for, I'm a whiskey guy. I asked him to get some Pappy Van Winkle because I can't ever find it.

Speaker 15 Of course, he can find it. He's a quarterback.
So he got us some Pappy like 23 year or something like that, which is not easy to find. Yeah.

Speaker 15 So I got that at my house for special occasions and stuff like that. He got us like a

Speaker 15 bunch of cigars and like personalized stuff with the Pappy. And I was pumped about that because I requested it.

Speaker 1 That's a great presentation. He's a great dude.

Speaker 4 He's left that open when you guys win a playoff game.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 15 Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 That's right. So, Taylor, the best part about you reaching out and coming on and we knowing that you're an AWL is we can ask you the tough questions.

Speaker 1 So, when you were at Ohio State, did Urban Meyer ever put his finger up your butt?

Speaker 15 Consensually, I guess.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, that's the thing is, like,

Speaker 1 you signed a contract

Speaker 1 by requesting to come on, knowing that we're going to ask you Urban Meyer questions. Because you know the show and you know

Speaker 1 how we talk about Urban.

Speaker 15 That was in the fine print. Yeah, I saw that.

Speaker 1 My other follow-up question was I read an article about how

Speaker 1 when you were at the Combine, you wore sleeves because you didn't want to get asked about your tattoos. Was that because you got your tattoos for free at Ohio State?

Speaker 1 Or like, why, why didn't you want to be asked about your tattoos?

Speaker 15 You know, just discounted and only sold a couple of things to get them. So it was, it was like a holiday discount or something like that.
Yeah.

Speaker 15 Man, I had the, I had the tattoos out, you know. Big white guy with tattoos, it's a good look, you know? That's why you get them.
Yeah. If I wasn't playing football, I can have all these tattoos.

Speaker 1 So that's a fact. Yeah.

Speaker 4 What's, do you have a tattoo that you were like trying trying to hide that you thought might be problematic?

Speaker 15 No.

Speaker 15 I mean, I'll tell you what, the Lions fans up here, while they do love me, they hate my Block O tattoo because they can see it in my uniform and they're like, oh, god damn it, the Decker guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you're in enemy territory up there.

Speaker 1 Have you been a little...

Speaker 1 I mean, the last two years haven't gone Ohio State's way. You are a tough guy.

Speaker 1 I think you like won. What was the award at Ohio State, like the Iron buckeye or something? Like you, you won all like the toughest guy things.
Has there been,

Speaker 1 have you talked to anyone in the in the program being like, yo, why, why are we playing like a seven-on-seven team? Like, we gotta, we gotta get tougher.

Speaker 1 Because Michigan's they've shoved it down your throat bad.

Speaker 15 Yeah, they've been playing a physical brand of football. Oddly enough, I don't really know anybody at Ohio State anymore.
Like a lot of the coaches are gone that was there.

Speaker 15 And obviously, you know, this many years into my NFL career, like I don't know any players there.

Speaker 15 Like, I don't really know anybody there anymore so I mean that's just kind of the nature of it there's a big turnaround and stuff like that but that's the problem you got to get you got it we got to get you back in the program to get some toughness back you gotta get them homebred ohio boys back in there that's what you need yeah so uh real question about urban meyer um you know

Speaker 1 talk

Speaker 1 the guy is separate from the coach incredible coach what was it about him like um in terms of preparation or whatever it may be that made him so great and also, speaking of the Ohio State, Michigan thing, like made your teams want to beat the ever-living crap out of Michigan, because that's really what feels like it's lacking right now.

Speaker 1 It's like there doesn't, it doesn't feel like that urgency of we have to crush Michigan. What was Urban Meyer able to do to get that in that team?

Speaker 15 I mean, I think first and foremost, recruiting is huge. and in college.
We know that. Like he was a phenomenal recruiter.

Speaker 15 And I remember on my recruiting visit at the time, I was committed to Notre Dame because Ohio State hadn't offered me um and i went on my visit there and he he basically just like put all the the uh rings and on my fingers and stuff and was like there's my pitch there's a tattoo there's a tattoo there's a tattoo yeah and some big ones too some significant tattoos he let you smell the rings big time recruiter and then like on top of that You go there and you're talented, but they would develop the talent.

Speaker 15 Our coaching staff was really good and they were like fanatical about like trying to get guys better and improve in every single way possible.

Speaker 15 And, like, I came from a small high school, so when I got there, I was like, oh, shoot, like, we're, we're damn near professional athletes right now. Like, this is this is crazy.

Speaker 15 So, um, the recruiting and the and just every single day we were trying to get better, and we were going to go out there and we were going to try and dominate teams.

Speaker 15 Like, it's not just, oh, we're going to go try and win. And I mean, we were good.
We were really good when I was in school.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you should probably thank me

Speaker 1 for the Big Ten championship game, whatever year, 2015, when Ohio State needed to get into the playoff and Wisconsin did a solid one for the Big Ten and laid down and lost 59-0. That was a rig job.

Speaker 1 You know that. You were on the field.

Speaker 1 You knew. Yeah,

Speaker 1 you knew.

Speaker 1 You probably were talking to the guys across the way. Like, hey,

Speaker 1 you know the deal here. Like, we got to win by a lot.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, you're welcome. You're welcome for that one.

Speaker 15 Yeah, you were a martyr for that one. So I appreciate that.
You got me that national championship ring. Yes.

Speaker 4 It's probably a good thing you didn't go to Notre Dame, too, because people would have just thought that you were a Golic.

Speaker 1 You give off like real strong Goli vibes.

Speaker 15 Generic white guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 You got your beard, the tattoos.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, they probably would have invited you onto their podcast.

Speaker 4 No one will ever know that you're not in the family.

Speaker 15 I haven't got that invite yet.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So you're, you're,

Speaker 1 when Joe Burrow was at Ohio State, did you know that he was the dude, even though he was just a freshman? Could you tell?

Speaker 15 He was just a freshman when I was there.

Speaker 15 As far as like reps on the field, he didn't get a ton while I was there just because there's just so much competition at every position. So didn't get a ton.

Speaker 15 But in the weight room, Mickey Marati loved the guy. And,

Speaker 15 you know, any NFL executive, anything like that, like if Mick will give his seal of approval on a guy, like that's saying a lot.

Speaker 15 And you kind of have to graduate to be in his lifting group because there's so many strength coaches and you go with a specific coach. So Mick loved loved that guy.

Speaker 15 So I mean that's kind of like I guess an early tell in hindsight that he was a guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 One thing that you guys have you've you've had a lot of injury luck this year where the offensive line in the past for the Lions you've had you've had to like stitch things together on the season.

Speaker 4 You haven't played as a unit in this many games as you have this year. It seems like it's been pretty consistent.

Speaker 4 I'm always curious because we talk to like running backs and we talk to them about like the art of falling and how to fall correctly to like minimize you know whether or not you're going to get injured.

Speaker 4 Is there anything that goes into playing offensive line besides just kind of luck that keeps that keeps you healthy over the course of a season?

Speaker 15 I mean, a lot of it is just freak things. Like last year,

Speaker 15 I broke my finger.

Speaker 15 It got caught in a penny and the dude just spun and it just snapped my finger. Like it was just dumb luck.
I mean, we don't wear pennies anymore hardly. So, I mean, I guess that helps.

Speaker 15 Yeah, you just have some freak things and like you're hitting people every play, 60, 70 plays.

Speaker 15 And like, and then in practice, like offensive linemen obviously play play every single play, and you're playing against some, some big freak athletes on the D line. So

Speaker 15 some of it's luck. And then I think a lot of it is just like how you, how you take care of your body.
Like that becomes a full-time job.

Speaker 15 And like as I've gotten older, I've had to like prioritize like sleep,

Speaker 15 supplementation, just soft tissue stuff,

Speaker 15 IVs, like whatever I possibly can. And then like in the offseason where I train, they're very adamant about like kind of prehab prehab stuff.
Like, let's do things that's going to help you move better

Speaker 15 just so you're not injury-prone. You're not stiff, like your hips are stiff, and that's going to affect your back or your ankles and stuff like that.
So, it's kind of trial and error for everybody.

Speaker 15 Um, and then

Speaker 15 I don't know, there is some luck that goes into it, I think.

Speaker 4 I like that term prehab.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and it's I need some prehab.

Speaker 4 It sounds like, yeah, I think we all do. I think uh, you obviously you work out, um, with Amon Ross St.
Brown, and his family is known for their workout routines.

Speaker 4 Is he like a beast in the weight room like his dad is? Because we saw him on

Speaker 4 hard knocks. It just seems like we joke around with the whole like, that dude's built different.

Speaker 4 I think he actually is built different because his dad like grew him in a lab to become a football player when he grew up.

Speaker 15 Yeah, man. You look at him, like he is stacked up.
Like he is ripped. He's got veins, muscles everywhere.
Not every receiver looks like that.

Speaker 15 You know, obviously all the receivers are pretty lean, but like he's, he's kind of, he's built pretty good.

Speaker 15 And we ask him to block a ton, and he'll go in there and just like saw a linebacker's head off, and he doesn't even think twice about it.

Speaker 15 Like, he is, he's impressive, especially as a young player coming in and doing what he's done in these first two years. Like, he's a freak.

Speaker 16 Man, I'll tell you what. When you're hungry out there, you start acting like a rookie quarterback in his first game, making bad decisions, messing up the basics, being all out of sorts.

Speaker 16 That's where Snickers comes in, man. That thing is packed.

Speaker 16 Roasted peanuts, nugget, caramel milk chocolate it's like the MVP of candy bars and when you bite into it boom it sorts you out gets your head back in the game of life satisfying your hunger remember this Snickers handles your hunger so you can handle everything else Snickers satisfies man that's a winning play so talking about body types you were on hard knocks this year and one of the funniest quotes was you were talking about your entire wardrobe that you have of clothes that don't fit that you're going to wear someday.

Speaker 4 How much,

Speaker 1 how big is that wardrobe? And also, like, have you thought in your head how, how much weight you actually will be able to lose and how quickly you'll be able to lose it?

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 15 I would say I have a pretty extensive wardrobe of kind of hot guy things that I'm looking forward to being able to wear that they just don't sell in big guy sizes. Like

Speaker 15 right now, I'm wearing a 4X tall Carhartt shirt that's way too big. Like I like big big shirts.
Right.

Speaker 15 But yeah, I mean, I got this like leather biker jacket that I just like, I don't fit in. And I want to fit in it so bad.
Like, it looks so cool.

Speaker 1 You see it, you like, look at it in the closet. You're like, someday that, like,

Speaker 1 I have it.

Speaker 15 I have it, man. And it's just sitting there.
I never wear it. I got some jeans that are too tight that I don't wear.

Speaker 15 I got all these like, just kind of like plain shirts that they're just like, I don't know, white t-shirt. And it's just like, man, it just doesn't fit.

Speaker 15 Like, I just look like a bag of milk in this thing. And I need to weigh like 250 to fit in this thing.
So

Speaker 15 I'm hoping my goal is to be like

Speaker 15 260, 250, 260. And I think I'm going to try and lose it pretty quick.
I'm going to go, I'm going to go off of social media. And then the next time you see me, I'm going to, I'm going to look.

Speaker 15 ripped up once I'm done playing, hopefully.

Speaker 1 I like that. It's like a vision.

Speaker 15 We'll see me. My wife's a chef, so it might not happen.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's like a vision board for your body. It's like visualize, I'm going to visualize myself wearing this leather, these leather pants one day, and eventually it'll happen.

Speaker 4 What's your diet like right now in order to keep that weight on during the season?

Speaker 15 Man, I just eat anything and everything. I'm typically fairly

Speaker 15 light

Speaker 15 in regards to my weight range. So I'm just eating constantly.

Speaker 15 Like I said, my wife's a, she's a chef and her mom's here right now helping with our baby. So her mom's a really good cook too.
So I'm just eating anything and everything I can.

Speaker 15 Like her whole thing is just like quality ingredients. Like

Speaker 15 we're not going to be putting seed oils and stuff like that. We're going to buy everything organic.

Speaker 15 And then I just, I eat stuff that I like. It's just good ingredients.
And I just eat a lot of it. So like this morning I had biscuits and gravy and it was awesome.
And

Speaker 15 yeah, just whatever I can to keep the weight on, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, by the way, congratulations on the baby. You like the baby bump happened for the Lions.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you specifically can feel you're playing better, but you had your first child in the late October and you guys have been ripping off wins ever since.

Speaker 15 It's a dad's strength, man. Yeah, we've had DJ Chark had a baby.

Speaker 15 I had one a couple weeks after Penay had one. Big V just had one.
Matt Nelson's going to have one in January.

Speaker 15 And I'm going to credit all this. to uh i had all the boys uh for my wedding in in february and i think there was some consummation of uh

Speaker 15 respecting my wedding and consummating it.

Speaker 5 It was a good party.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 That's great that you could be just like, Yeah, that baby's from my wedding. That baby's from my wedding.

Speaker 4 Your DJ had like an awesome playlist going on. He was playing like pony on the dance floor.
Everybody was ovulating.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 All right. So, who's the toughest guy to block in the NFL right now for you?

Speaker 15 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 And I have a follow-up question, but I want to hear your answer first.

Speaker 15 I think both the bosas are really good. I've actually personally not played them.
I played a Joey in college every day, basically.

Speaker 15 Chandler Jones, I mean, I know

Speaker 15 he's been doing it for a long time, super high-level.

Speaker 15 Pilio Mack and Robert Quinn. Robert Quinn, he's...

Speaker 1 Like, he's only lined up on the left side, but it seems like everywhere he goes, he's a handful because he's going to rush the pass for every play um everson griffin uh especially early in my career man he was a handful i mean there's just every team's got guys every single team guys so uh yeah the follow-up with khalil mack um i was doing i was just seeing like when we've talked about you um and there was a blog from 2020 when khalil mack just absolutely fucking demolished you uh and it was deleted from the internet did you get it deleted from the internet are you like lebron that you're trying to get your videos deleted You got to check the tape.

Speaker 1 Oh, I saw it.

Speaker 1 He threw you into Stafford's lap.

Speaker 15 Frank Ragnow,

Speaker 15 God rest his soul. I love that guy.

Speaker 15 He stepped on my foot. So my foot was.

Speaker 15 I don't know.

Speaker 1 So I'm going to show the tape to PFT and he can decide.

Speaker 4 I'm going to be the judge. I grind film.

Speaker 1 Khalil Mack just fucking bullied you.

Speaker 15 Oh, man. He bullied you.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. And then you got to.

Speaker 4 I understand why you would get that erased. Yeah.
You called up Al Gore. You were like, get this off.

Speaker 15 Yeah, you got to make some phone calls. You got to make some phone calls.
He bullied you.

Speaker 15 Thanks for that, guys. I appreciate the pub.

Speaker 4 That is tough, though, because with offensive line play, we don't know what we're talking about when we watch offensive linemen.

Speaker 4 If somebody falls down, we're like, oh, that's that guy's fault for doing it. But there's a lot that goes into it.

Speaker 4 Is there anything, like,

Speaker 4 any analyst out there that you think, okay, this dude actually is one to listen to when it comes to talking about offensive lineplay?

Speaker 1 Good question.

Speaker 15 Yeah, great question.

Speaker 15 I think you just look at any analyst that's played offensive line, really.

Speaker 15 I mean, because there's so every other position has their stats and things that you can go off of, you know, receptions, touchdowns, completion percentage, sacks, tackles, interceptions, whatever.

Speaker 15 And offensive linemen, really, the only stat that people look at for them is sacks. And that's about it.

Speaker 15 And then everything else is team stats. So I think if it's a guy that's played, I think he's he's great to listen to.
Like us here in Detroit right now, TJ does a lot of stuff for us, and he played.

Speaker 15 So he gets it. And there's guys on some of those

Speaker 15 bigger broadcasts that played. I know Joe Thomas is on there now.
And I think I've seen Andrew Whitworth doing some stuff now. So I think guys that played the position, because it's a unique position,

Speaker 15 not the sexy position, but they understand it.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah, we need to figure out a stat for offensive lineman, like a positive stat.

Speaker 4 Because you're right, every other position does have something something where you can be like oh this dude leads the league in in x y z whatever it is but there's nothing like it's hard to count pancakes for offensive linemen because there's just so much that goes into a play some guy might be chipping you might have help we need to figure out yeah there's a lot of nuance man there's just a ton of nuance because like oh did this guy get pancaked or

Speaker 15 did somebody trip or was he supposed to block that guy or was somebody else supposed to block that guy was the play called the wrong way was the quarterback that the depth of the pocket like i was talking about like jared's been great in the pocket.

Speaker 15 Was the coverage good? Like, there's just so much that goes into it. So, I mean, it's kind of our stats are team stats, basically.

Speaker 4 We should figure out a way to keep track of like number of holds that you get away with. To me, that feels like the best stat possible for an offensive lineman.

Speaker 15 Oh, I'm probably, I got to be top in the league and getting away with false starts. I got to be.

Speaker 1 Oh, really?

Speaker 4 How do you get away with those? You just, are you, are you going to be a bad guy?

Speaker 15 If you false start on every play, if you false start on every play, they can't call it on every play.

Speaker 1 That's a fact.

Speaker 5 That's a good point.

Speaker 1 They're just like, no, that's just how. Yeah, that's when the, yeah, they just think that's when the ball got snapped is just off of you.

Speaker 15 100%.

Speaker 15 When we're on the road and we get off said, Bob,

Speaker 15 I'm dancing on the line about every single snap. That's all.

Speaker 1 I can't call it every play.

Speaker 4 But the refs think that you're just like that fast. That you go off, you're like even faster than the, like the second the ball starts to move, they're like, that guy's all over it.

Speaker 15 Yeah, now that I said that, I'm probably going to get like six false starts this

Speaker 15 way.

Speaker 1 That would suck.

Speaker 1 If you're ranking toughest things to block against, so this is obviously the best ones have all three. But like, what is the toughest thing to block against? Speed,

Speaker 1 strength, or bendability?

Speaker 15 I would say

Speaker 15 number one thing would, if, if they're good at timing the snap, would be speed. Okay.
Snap timing. Snap timing is everything.
That's why I try to get off on the snap.

Speaker 15 Like, that's my number one advantage, I think, is getting off on the snap well. And then bendability.

Speaker 15 Like, we got a young dude right now who I've been blocking him in practice all year, James Houston. And he's been on a terry lately.
And, man, his bend is crazy. And some guys just have it.

Speaker 15 Like, they can just, they can just bend. They got those gumby ankles and can just bend the edge.
And I was like, man, why isn't this guy? Why isn't this guy playing? Like, he should be playing.

Speaker 15 Like, cause there'd be, you know, once or twice a week where he'd hit a move on me and it was a real move. And he really got me.

Speaker 15 So, you know, it's speed if you can time the snap really well, and then bendability 100%.

Speaker 1 So, strength, like you can block for strength. Everyone can block for strength in the NFL.
You're saying it's when you get the combo of the other two things.

Speaker 15 Yeah, I mean, strength is good to have a blend with it. Um, but I would say a lot of offensive linemen, if it's up to them, they would just eat bullrushes all day.
Yeah.

Speaker 15 Because if you just run into me and then it's just, you know, just wrestling the grizzly bear,

Speaker 15 I mean, it's, it's not easy to do, but if you know a guy's a power guy, you know what to expect. Yeah.
And you can just kind of sit in the bullrush.

Speaker 4 That's a good answer.

Speaker 4 How hard is it at the end of a game or at the end of a half when you get a big chunk of yards and you guys have to sprint down the field and then get immediately into your stance to spike the ball to kick a field goal?

Speaker 15 Oh, it's the worst. And the quarterback will be freaking out, yelling clock, clock, clock, and his voice is cracking.
And

Speaker 15 man,

Speaker 15 that's the longest you're going to run because if I'm running more than 10 yards, either something something really good happened or something bad happened. So,

Speaker 15 yeah, I don't like that. It's not my favorite.

Speaker 1 Similar to that, and I love asking this question, is there a

Speaker 1 number play in a play drive where you can feel like the defense is like, they're gassed? They're quitting.

Speaker 1 Like, is it like if a drive gets to eight, nine, 10, like, is there a spot that it's like, yeah, this is if we get to this point, like, we'll just keep leaning on them, leaning on them, leaning on them, and then they can't do anything.

Speaker 15 I think right when you get around like six, seven plays, if you you get a first down and you're grinding some runs on them, and if the same D-line is on the field, because they have to chase the ball every play, right?

Speaker 15 Like they have to run after the ball every play. Um,

Speaker 15 I think they start getting worn down, especially if you can keep them on the field.

Speaker 15 I mean, long play drives, I mean, they suck as an offensive player, but they're, I think they're way harder on the defense.

Speaker 15 So, I think once you start to get to six, seven, if you keep rolling and you get like,

Speaker 1 we've had drives that have been 18, 19 play drives for a touchdown and that's like that's brutal on a defense yeah so i think i asked nick mangold that and his answer was it's not even the plays it's when you get to the 40.

Speaker 1 when you get to the 40 it's like that's when the defense starts to be like oh fuck like you know if if you're saying like a regular drive starts at the 20 uh off kickoff or 25 whatever like it that's when it starts to be oh man like we're really getting punished here

Speaker 15 Yeah, I mean, that's a good point because at that point, you're either going to be getting in distance for a field goal, you're going to be able to flip the field, or you're going to score a touchdown.

Speaker 15 So,

Speaker 15 yeah, because field positions are huge and obviously football. So, I mean, yeah.
Because at that point, they got to make a play.

Speaker 15 They need to get a stop right there on the 40, or they need to get a sack to knock us out of field goal range, or whatever it may be. So, I would agree with that answer.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 We saw at the start of the season, your coach Dan Campbell, who we love, setting the tone, being like, okay, this season, we're going to base this on a Metallica song, No Leaf Clover.

Speaker 4 The soothing light at the end of the tunnel might be a freight train coming your way. Has he stuck with that Metallica song, or does he like switch it up week to week?

Speaker 4 Is there like a hard rock heavy metal song of the week that he bases that week's theme off of? Are we still staying with that one?

Speaker 15 I wish there was a song week to week, but I mean, he's pretty consistent. He's pretty consistent with that.
He does like his heavy metal songs. He's talked about some tool songs and stuff and

Speaker 15 team meetings and stuff like that. But I would say that message is pretty consistent.

Speaker 15 Like he like right now, we're in a basically a one-game season every week because we kind of dug ourselves into the hole that we that we got in and we've been you know trying to slowly climb our way out of it the past six weeks.

Speaker 15 So

Speaker 15 yeah, I said he's pretty consistent with that.

Speaker 1 How often does he cry?

Speaker 15 He he's emotionally invested.

Speaker 15 in us. I'll say that.
Like, and you got to love that, man. Because I mean, I've had games.
I remember after the our first win last year against Minnesota, it was like, man, this this year's, I cried.

Speaker 15 I cried walking off the field just because I'm like, you just invest so much into this, like you're time away from your family. Like now I have a child and I'm spending time away from them, like

Speaker 15 time away from friends, whatever it may be. You sacrifice so much and so it means a lot to you.

Speaker 15 So yeah, I mean, he is emotionally invested in it. And you can tell that he wishes he could still be like be out there playing with us, like as do a lot of us, which is like Deuce Staley.

Speaker 15 Deuce Staley is intense, man. And you love it.
You love it as a player.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, we saw him. Dan was doing up-downs at the start of training camp this year.
Is he still working out with you guys?

Speaker 15 I'm sure he works out pretty early in the day. But I mean,

Speaker 15 he looks good, man. He looks good.
I think he wears some tighter shirts on purpose. That's going to be me when I retire.

Speaker 15 He's got the delts, the shoulders. Like, yeah, he looks good, man.
He does.

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Speaker 1 This has been awesome, Taylor. We really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 The last question I have is Urban Meyer, sad pizza. You were on the team.
The sad pizza happened. What was the locker room talking about after? Where they're like, oh man,

Speaker 1 should we buy Coach a get well soon card? Should we give him a hug? Like, man, he can't be eating this sad pizza in a golf cart. Like,

Speaker 1 what was the response to the sad pizza, which is one of my favorite pictures of all time?

Speaker 15 I think we were all having sad pizza, man.

Speaker 1 No, but he was having the saddest pizza. No, come on.

Speaker 15 Yeah, man.

Speaker 15 When we would lose, the few times we would lose, man, that would, it would shake him to his core, man. Like, he would be walking around and you could tell he was just like in another space.

Speaker 15 Like, he hated losing so much, like walking around the building. And us as players, it's like, man, we gotta, we gotta pull him out of it because, like, we got a game this week.

Speaker 15 Like, we gotta, we gotta go play again. So, I mean, he was just, he was just like an ultimate.

Speaker 15 Like, he just loved winning so much, and it would just shake him to his core because he'd be different around the building. 100%.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's awesome. Well, we're rooting for you, man.

Speaker 15 We are. Hey, I got one more thing for you guys.
Yeah.

Speaker 15 Frank Ragnow wanted you to ask me about appendicitis.

Speaker 4 Oh, tell me about your appendicitis. That was my next question.

Speaker 1 Also, the Roeback question.

Speaker 4 I'm wearing the joggers right now. This question is presented by Roback.
Tell me about the appendicitis.

Speaker 1 And wait, Frank is on the Broncos now, right?

Speaker 1 No, that's Graham Glasgow. Graham Glasgow.
That's right. Yeah, Graham Glasgow.
Yeah. We saw Graham at training camp out in Denver.

Speaker 4 But your appendicitis, I was actually very curious to hear about that.

Speaker 15 Yeah, thanks. Great question.
I'm glad Frank was able to get to you on that.

Speaker 15 I've been telling Frank to leak leak this to the media for years, and he never did it. So he said he was going to tell you guys to ask me about it.
So shout out to Frank for telling you guys. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I've actually, I had it in my notes, Frank Ragnow's appendicitis. I did.

Speaker 4 I actually asked you about it, but it was earlier and we were accidentally on mute so you didn't hear it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because I've been thinking, like, every time I watch the lines, I'm like.

Speaker 7 Did Frank have appendicitis?

Speaker 15 Unfortunately, Frank did not have appendicitis.

Speaker 15 All right. I'm going to take you on a little story.
So in 2020, at the end of training camp, I had just signed my contract extension.

Speaker 15 We were playing the Bears week one.

Speaker 15 And

Speaker 15 the Friday before the game, I woke up in the middle of the night sweating,

Speaker 15 shivering. My stomach hurts so bad.
And I was like, I don't know what's going on. Like, am I constipated? Like, do I have too much Jets pizza?

Speaker 15 So I just felt terrible, man. I was just sweating, going crazy, like, shivering.
I was just sitting in the shower. And then

Speaker 15 I was like, I can't tell anybody about this. I just signed a contract extension.
Like, I have to play. Like, I got to play.

Speaker 15 So

Speaker 15 I just like dealt with it, played in the game on Sunday. And then I told the team Wednesday, I'm like, hey, I don't feel good.

Speaker 15 Like, something's going on with my stomach or my side or something like that. So

Speaker 15 they

Speaker 15 had me go get like a CAT scan or something like that. And they're like, oh, yeah, you have appendicitis.
Like, you've, you've had it for a week. Like, you should have told this, told us this sooner

Speaker 15 um and then i was like well i can't not play like i just signed a contract extension like i i can't be the guy that signs a contract and not play

Speaker 15 so uh they put me on antibiotics that like i basically had appendicitis for the first month of the season and the antibiotics made it go away it was kind of wait wait wait so you still have your appendix

Speaker 15 yeah i didn't get it taken out i just took antibiotics you just willed your way out of appendicitis i thought i was constipated and i I was like, I can't tell the like, I just like, what is going on?

Speaker 15 Like, my stomach's killing me. Wait,

Speaker 4 you shat out your appendix.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 1 Oh, wait, so was this when Khalil Mack bullied you?

Speaker 15 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 Oh, he bullied you later in the year.

Speaker 15 No, no, no. This was that was like two years before.
That was in the 2020s.

Speaker 1 No, he bullied you in 2020.

Speaker 1 So it might have been. Oh, he bullied you a lot.
So that's fine.

Speaker 1 He might have bullied a man who had appendicitis.

Speaker 1 Is it that fucked up? Is it possible for you to get it again?

Speaker 4 Or is your appendix

Speaker 4 fully healed because you got through it?

Speaker 15 No, if I get it again, I have to get it taken out. That's basically what I was told.

Speaker 1 So you're just living, you're a ticking time bomb.

Speaker 4 You've got that dog in you.

Speaker 15 Yeah, man. Just built different, you know?

Speaker 4 That's crazy.

Speaker 1 That's insane that we were able to, like, that our journalist instinct was able to bring this up and find out about this.

Speaker 4 To all the listeners out there, if you have appendicitis, you should probably go to a hospital, though, and get your appendix taken out.

Speaker 1 No, no, I disagree. You don't get antibiotics and keep playing.

Speaker 4 You have two options. One, you either start against the Chicago Bears and get bullied by Khalil back.
Or two, you get your appendix out. It's one or the other.

Speaker 15 Man, we got, I don't know. We got the Bears' number recently, so I don't know.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, they stink.

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay, cool. They stink.

Speaker 1 That's not cool. I mean, it's cool.
They stink.

Speaker 15 You said it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I know. They stink.

Speaker 1 They stink. I wish there was antibiotics for the Bears.

Speaker 15 They stink. I'm sorry, man.
If I could give you a hug, I would.

Speaker 1 But yeah, so

Speaker 1 appendicitis, you played with it. What a beast.

Speaker 4 What a beast. You actually, you beat evolution.

Speaker 15 Yeah, yeah, pretty much. I mean, you know, it took Frank like three years to get this out, but I'm glad he finally did.
So, yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, I'm going to say it, like, hearing this story, I think now you're a Hall of Famer because you can't really tell the story of football without the story of Taylor decker's appendicitis it's true gold gold jacket incoming

Speaker 4 oh man well taylor thank you man we are rooting for you we are we appreciate you coming on man and uh if it comes down to it i've already said that i'll i'll sacrifice the commanders in the playoffs for the lions if that's what it means yeah man i don't know how the whole algorithm works out i don't because i i mean we have the tiebreaker against i don't know how that shit works out you're sniffing around right now you you you're not out of it like you said it's week by week take care of your business and uh it could happen.

Speaker 1 And that's what I'm really rooting for. Yeah.

Speaker 15 Yeah, man. It's going to be a fun last four weeks of the season.

Speaker 1 And shout out you, by the way, for

Speaker 1 any AWLs who are playing in the NFL right now or listening.

Speaker 1 It's always the best when we have people who come on the show that know the show. So we appreciate you reaching out.
And anyone else, I'm trying to think who is.

Speaker 1 Dak, Dak, you should probably reach out and come back on because we know you listen every time.

Speaker 4 Big time AWL.

Speaker 15 There's a ton of listeners. You know it.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 If any officials listen, if any referees listen, you got to keep it in-house.

Speaker 1 You can't

Speaker 1 call them on false stars.

Speaker 1 Listen, this was a trust tree. Be cool.
This is a trust tree.

Speaker 1 This is going to suck if you get any false stars on Sunday.

Speaker 4 I'm going to blame myself so bad.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 15 If I do, I'm going to be waiting for the blog.

Speaker 1 I'll read it. Yes, yes.
All right, man. Thank you so much.

Speaker 15 Appreciate it.

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Speaker 4 And now here's Will Levis.

Speaker 15 And now for something completely different.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on recurring guests because you were on with us at Kentucky Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 It is Kentucky quarterback Will Levis, who is about to be in the NFL draft, big-time AWL, long-time listener.

Speaker 1 We're a fan of his. He's a fan of ours.
We hope he has great success in the NFL. We're going to do one question with a quarterback in person.
First time we've ever done one question in person.

Speaker 1 So, Will,

Speaker 1 my question is:

Speaker 1 Graham Mertz is going to Kentucky. Can you give him some recommendations on where to eat and also how to play good football? Because I would like to see him be successful.

Speaker 8 That's a good question. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Is this confirmed? I'm pretty sure it's confirmed.

Speaker 8 I haven't seen any news about that, so that's news to me.

Speaker 1 Pretty sure. Let's just pretend it.
All right, so if Graham Mertz were going to Kentucky,

Speaker 1 where would he eat and how would he play good football? That's two questions. Shit.

Speaker 8 Well, first of all, thank you so much for having me on again. It's really cool to be referred to as a recurring guest.
Yes. I've heard so many other people been referred to as, so that's really cool.

Speaker 8 But yeah, I mean, there's definitely not a shortage of good food in Lexington.

Speaker 8 I'd first say from a steakhouse

Speaker 8 for steakhouses, I go to Malone's. That's where I went every Sunday with my offensive line.
Not Jeff Ruby's. I was going to say Jeff Ruby's after that.
I think I'm...

Speaker 8 I am a little bit biased in that I did have a deal with Malone's to

Speaker 1 bring the old line up. Jeff Ruby.

Speaker 8 Nope, not fuck Jeff Ruby.

Speaker 8 I'm a big friend of Jeff Ruby as well, and he's got an excellent restaurant. But Malone's and Jeff Ruby's can't go wrong with either of those steakhouses.

Speaker 8 Big fan of Carson's downtown. Good brunch, southern-style place.
You're always going to get a good meal there. And for breakfast, you've got to go to Josie's in Chevy Chase Plaza.

Speaker 8 We go there almost every Sunday after games with me and my family when we go. So

Speaker 8 he's definitely not going to have a problem having success there. I'm aware of his game.
I know him well.

Speaker 1 I'm familiar with you. I've talked to him a little bit.
I'm a young man.

Speaker 4 Sorry? I'm familiar with your game, young man.

Speaker 8 Yeah, familiar with your game, young man.

Speaker 8 But I've talked to him a little bit recently just to kind of give him some inside look at what Kentucky football looks like. And he seems to like it as I think any quarterback in the country should.

Speaker 1 Okay, good. Good answer.
Also, just a cheat code. Like, if you just talk about food places in a city, everyone's going to be like, that's awesome.
He like, yeah. He likes that place.

Speaker 8 That was the first thing I talked about with him. I was like, listen, I came from Penn State, which, quite frankly, does not have any good food.
And that was a big kind of knock on it.

Speaker 8 And coming to Kentucky was a groove change of pace.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Max hates you right now. Max.

Speaker 4 Max hates every guest because we've been on a streak recently of guests just hitting on the state of Pennsylvania.

Speaker 12 I mean, Penn State just doesn't have great food.

Speaker 1 That's fast.

Speaker 4 This is not a question, but I just would like to say it's a good thing that you said that you take your offensive line places to eat. I think that's good.

Speaker 1 That's a good thing. Traft stock up.

Speaker 8 I will say that I got inspired by Kenny Pickett. I think he was the first guy that announced to do something like that.
And I was like, that's really cool. It's my first year starting.

Speaker 8 Hopefully, I can get something similar happening. So props to Kenny.
I know he's also a recurring guest.

Speaker 1 Yep, yep.

Speaker 1 Love him.

Speaker 8 Pretty good friend of mine. So thank you, Kenny.

Speaker 4 Take care of the guys up front. They'll take care of you.

Speaker 1 Also, I want to retract fuck Jeff Ruby because I actually met him. He's a really nice guy.

Speaker 4 Okay, my question is,

Speaker 4 you're a big Mayo boy. Love the Mayo.

Speaker 4 I'm a big Mayo boy, too. I think we're all in this room fans of the mayonnaise.

Speaker 4 What's your favorite thing to put put mayonnaise on?

Speaker 8 That's a good question. I'm probably going to have to go with any kind of club or deli sandwich.
I think

Speaker 8 you can't have one of those sandwiches without having some mayo on it.

Speaker 8 I mean, I'm not going to give out any free sponsorships, but I'm a big Hellman's guy, not a believer in Miracle Whip.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 8 No free sponsorships.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Yep. You know,

Speaker 8 just like any kind of regular Mayo on a classic club, like turkey, bacon, cheese, lettuce, tomato, mayo.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Can't go wrong with that.

Speaker 4 Now you're talking my language. People that are anti-mayo, I think they're idiots.

Speaker 4 They're doing a performance out here. Try eating a dry sandwich and then get back to me.
Also, fun little holiday treat. Do a little Mayo Nog.

Speaker 4 Just mayonnaise and whiskey. That's it.

Speaker 1 Give it a shot. Mayo coffee.

Speaker 8 I don't know if I'll be trying that. No, give it a shot.

Speaker 1 Give it a shot. I think you're like it.
Isn't it Mayo coffee? Yeah, you drank Mayo Coffee.

Speaker 1 I can't ask you.

Speaker 4 You drank Mayo coffee. I did.
If I were in your position, I would not be looking down my nose at Mayo Nog.

Speaker 8 That's a fair point. I might have to give it a shot.

Speaker 1 Or Mayo Mac.

Speaker 4 It's just macaroni and mayonnaise. Yes.
They're a winter treat for the children.

Speaker 1 No cheese, just macaroni.

Speaker 4 You bake it up real nice. You won't even miss the cheese.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Trust me. All right, Billy.
I love when a quarterback comes in like you will, and like Billy just sizes you up. And it's like, oh, this could have been me.
He did get a little closer to me.

Speaker 1 It's looking me up and down a little bit. All right, Billy, go ahead.

Speaker 9 All right. So Kool-Aid McKinstry, Jalen Hyatt, they all got NIL deals linked to their names.

Speaker 11 I know it's

Speaker 9 pronounced differently, but how come we didn't get a Will Levi's? Unreal.

Speaker 8 I tweeted at him and everything. I tried my best.
I tried to make it happen.

Speaker 8 That's crazy.

Speaker 8 Nothing ever came about it. I mean, I'm not going to hold it against them if they want to do something at the next level, but I feel like it just makes sense.

Speaker 8 I had friends call me Blue Jeans. I mean,

Speaker 8 Levi's, Levis, people pronounce my last name like Levi's all the time because of the name

Speaker 8 connection, but it just makes sense, you know? I mean, I feel like they'd be crazy to not make it happen. I'm also

Speaker 8 a Levi's wearer. I mean, I only have a couple pairs of jeans, and they're like both pairs, they're Levi's.
I mean, it makes sense. And Levi's, if you're listening, hit me up.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Or Billy?

Speaker 1 I'm talking to Billy about

Speaker 4 he could change his last name to Muggsy. Muggy.

Speaker 1 Will Muggsy would hook him up. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I guarantee. Yeah.
Superior gene. Yeah.
Muggsy, get the clutch.

Speaker 4 Careful whenever Billy starts talking about superior genes.

Speaker 8 It's usually the time when you have to cut him off.

Speaker 1 All right. Jake?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Hey, Will, Jake Marsh, Part of My Take podcast. You're a notable AWL.
It's always cool when we see the athletes we're talking about listen to us.

Speaker 10 So my question is, when was the last time, and if at all, you listened to Part of My Take on a game day?

Speaker 8 Game day, I watched, I swear, I was bad at text

Speaker 8 Big Cat before it, but it wasn't my last game, but the Georgia game, I was listening to the episode from that Friday on the field as I was warming up. Hell yeah.

Speaker 8 And I'm not like a pre-game kind of like

Speaker 8 superstition type of guy. Like sometimes I listen to music, but usually I'm caught up at that point.
Usually I listen to the Friday episode and I hadn't finished it.

Speaker 8 So I was like, all right, well, I mean, I have no other choice now. So yeah,

Speaker 8 I have done that, and I feel like not many other guys are listening to podcasts pre-game.

Speaker 1 I like that because you were like, before I played Georgia, I got to double check to make sure Hank, in fact, did not get the lottery ball correct. Yep.
That's what I was going to say.

Speaker 1 So before taking on the number of of team of the country, that's the latest thing on your mind. Yeah, it's just non-football.
It's failing yet again.

Speaker 1 That's one of the cooler. Oh, we'll let you do it.

Speaker 8 Oh, no, I'm saying cooler promo things you guys have done recently with having a fan compete as well.

Speaker 1 And if they get it before Hank, you guys pay him.

Speaker 8 That's going to be awesome to see how that plays out.

Speaker 1 We'll do one with you. Yeah.
So that because Hank's not even in here, so it would be great.

Speaker 4 I feel like if you listen to the Dungeon and Dragons episode before a game,

Speaker 4 that would get me really pumped.

Speaker 8 I've listened. She knows a little bit about Tim.
So, I mean,

Speaker 1 he's a legend. Yes, he is a legend.

Speaker 4 He's one of her favorite people in the entire world.

Speaker 1 It's got to be. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 All right, Max.

Speaker 11 I actually do have a question.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 12 I normally get texted questions.

Speaker 12 When you were at Penn State, quarterback room with Sean Clifford, what was it like when you just like you just knew you were better than him?

Speaker 8 I mean, I obviously always thought that with the confidence that I have. And I feel like every quarterback's got to have that kind of mindset if they want to be successful.

Speaker 8 But, I mean, it was tough, man. It's tough to be the one position other than kicker and punter and long snapper that is, I think, if I'm, yeah, that no one else plays.

Speaker 8 You know, no one else is rotating. There's uh, there's there's only one person on the field at one time.
And um,

Speaker 8 even if you're just the hair behind the guy that's starting, uh, you're not gonna get reps unless it's the guy gets hurt or it's a blowout, whatever. So, I mean, it was a it was a tough situation.

Speaker 8 I mean, I kinda just kind of had to put my head down and just keep working.

Speaker 8 And then when the kind of opportunity and realization came that transferring would probably be the best opportunity for me, then I just kind of went with my gut

Speaker 8 and went there. But Sean and I are excellent friends.
I declared, or I just announced I declared yesterday. He was one of the first people to hit me up and say, congrats and everything.

Speaker 8 And we love each other. And I wish him the best in everything that he's doing.
And he wishes me the best as well.

Speaker 1 Shit, I didn't text you.

Speaker 4 Good question, Max.

Speaker 1 But I mean, I knew you were going to declare. Yeah.
Okay, I knew I was going to declare.

Speaker 8 I didn't know if I was going to play in the bowl game or not.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. All right.

Speaker 1 Congrats. Yeah.
Congrats. Congrats on declaring you.
Yes. Yes.
Declaring. Memes.

Speaker 11 So it's going to be a big story. So let's get in front of it.

Speaker 1 Memes, be more obvious to reading your program. So it's going to be a good story.

Speaker 4 Wait, memes, put the camera on yourself.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Memes, be a little natural here.
There we go. Ask however you would want to ask it, okay?

Speaker 1 What's your hand size? Okay, there we go. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hey, that is going to be a big story. Yeah, they're big.

Speaker 8 I haven't, do you guys have a ruler anyway?

Speaker 1 Wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 4 We can use the iPhone measurement tool.

Speaker 8 Yeah,

Speaker 8 I do know I have big hands. I think it's anywhere between 10 and a quarter and 10 and a half.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 8 So

Speaker 8 I knew that I would have had, I think, one of the bigger hands in the draft class last year.

Speaker 1 All right, we're doing this live on air. This is going to be please.

Speaker 4 Hey, but don't you stretch it. You get to put it on the

Speaker 1 so when when when they report this after the combine, just please credit part of my take because we had it first.

Speaker 1 Will Levis' hand size, PFT's doing the calculations.

Speaker 4 All right, we got official measurement.

Speaker 1 Official measurement. Here it comes.

Speaker 1 10 and a half. They're huge.
Whoa!

Speaker 1 Those are fucking.

Speaker 4 They're huge. And trust me, my phone sometimes makes things like not as long as you would think when you measure them.

Speaker 4 So like, it's a legit 10 and a half.

Speaker 1 Billy just looked up at his hands. He's like,

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm about that. I got tens.
I got tens. Do you? Yeah, that's actually not that good.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right.

Speaker 4 Ten and a half is like, okay, so he takes his offensive lineman out to dinners, and he's got big hands.

Speaker 1 We're like half. Mikes Mayo.
Loves Mayo.

Speaker 4 Now we're 75% of the way to like draft WillLevis.com.

Speaker 1 Yes. Oh, it might happen.
It might happen. All right, so Will, you have one question for us.
Oh, I do.

Speaker 1 Hmm.

Speaker 8 I should have known that this was a possibility.

Speaker 1 Can you see anything? Just just be a thought starter? No, no, no.

Speaker 8 I would say

Speaker 4 if you guys had to

Speaker 8 kick someone off of the podcast in the room,

Speaker 1 who would it be?

Speaker 1 Billy.

Speaker 1 I mean, Billy. That was the obvious answer.
Good question. I'd like to kick Billy out of my draft board.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're going to get dinged in Billy's quarterback bracket now. His quarterback bracket is.
It's influential.

Speaker 1 And there was a week in time where his quarterback bracket actually looked correct, where Sam Ellinger started and Trevor Lawrence was struggling.

Speaker 1 So that will be his quarterback bracket. I'm excited for the next year.

Speaker 4 You maybe made a very powerful enemy in late football, actually.

Speaker 1 I didn't say it.

Speaker 4 You set us up, though.

Speaker 1 Come on. You knew.
All right. So you want to do numbers? Yes, please.
Please.

Speaker 1 I'll go 17. I was literally going to say that.
You go 17. You go 17.
Is this official? Yeah, this is official.

Speaker 1 But Hank's not here. Hank's not here.
I mean, it doesn't count for him, but where is Hank? So we're not including Sebastian. Will you get 17?

Speaker 4 I'm going to do 29. Okay.

Speaker 1 18. Okay.

Speaker 1 20.

Speaker 1 Three for memes. Billy, you have 69.

Speaker 1 I will do. What was your number?

Speaker 8 17.

Speaker 1 No, in college?

Speaker 8 7. It was 17 my freshman year and then 7 the last week.

Speaker 1 I'll do 7. All right.

Speaker 1 Wow, if you got 17, Will, this would be something else.

Speaker 4 I hope it's 17.

Speaker 1 69?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 4 What is that? 68?

Speaker 1 68. 68.
68.

Speaker 1 Hasn't 68 won recently, Jake? 68. Hank never would have gotten it, just so everyone knows.
Yeah. Hank never would have gotten it.

Speaker 1 October 23rd.

Speaker 4 Okay. That's pretty recent.
Yeah, that's pretty recent.

Speaker 10 Sixth of time.

Speaker 12 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, Will, thank you.
One question for the quarterback. We're rooting for you, and you're going to, I mean, you're a recurring guest, so you have to come back on when you get drafted.

Speaker 8 and uh yeah best of luck man thank you so much yeah appreciate it

Speaker 18 this season transform your space into an entertainer's dream with wayfair everything ships fast right to your door shop everything home today at wayfair.com that's w-a-y-f-a-i-r.com wayfair every style every home Okay, let's wrap up.

Speaker 1 We got guys on chicks. We'll have Hank join on the Zoom Zoom for the ping-pong ball.
Wouldn't that be bittersweet if he won while he wasn't even here?

Speaker 4 There's no way he's gonna believe it.

Speaker 1 I'm actually legitimately rooting for him this time. It'd be incredible because it would be so great.

Speaker 1 And let's just say if he wins,

Speaker 1 yeah, okay, he'll be great.

Speaker 4 He's also gonna, if he does win, because he does have a fever right now, he's gonna fall asleep and then wake up later and not know if he actually won or not.

Speaker 9 He's gonna be like Grandpa Joe.

Speaker 7 Chocolate factory.

Speaker 1 Jump out of bed.

Speaker 1 Jump out of bed. People are gonna be like, are they fucking with us? Are they doing Grandpa Joe references, seeing how many they can get in here?

Speaker 1 That's like the fourth time we said his name. Well, it's Hank.

Speaker 1 Tank, what's it called?

Speaker 4 He's Grandpa Joe.

Speaker 1 GJ. Yeah, GJ.

Speaker 4 GJ Lockwood. GJ is actually a great, like, I think it's a name that's never been used before, but it sounds like it could be like a grandpa's name.
Yeah. Or like an uncle's name.
GJ. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Oh, that's my GJ. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, memes, take it away. A little enthusiasm.

Speaker 11 This one's for father.

Speaker 1 Whoa, there we go, memes.

Speaker 11 I just had a baby. Any helpful tips to survive the first few weeks slash months of parenthood uh

Speaker 1 yeah figure it out yourself dude i know people always ask for tips and it's like i hate i hate the parenting tips i think that it's like the weirdest thing to tell someone else how to parent uh yeah the first few months are a bear i actually have a

Speaker 1 I guess I'll say it right now is gonna be my fire fest, but my son is three and a half and he

Speaker 1 is now decided when he wants to get up every morning. And let me tell you something.

Speaker 1 There is no scare in the world like being dead asleep at 5.30 in the morning and having a three-year and a half-year-old just tap your forehead.

Speaker 1 Because that's happened two mornings in a row now, where he just is literally like six inches from my face, and he's just like, Dad, I'm ready to get up. I'm just like, what the fuck, dude?

Speaker 1 Go back to bed.

Speaker 4 You know what irritates me is people that say like there's no book that you get when you raise a kid. There's no book about parenting.
There's millions of books.

Speaker 1 There's so many people.

Speaker 4 That's like one of the biggest types of book.

Speaker 1 And then you read it all, and then you don't do any of it because you just figure it out yourself. They don't give you a book.

Speaker 4 It is kind of crazy to think that when you leave a hospital, they just hand you a baby. Oh, dude.
And they say, Here you go. And then now it's like, that's your baby.

Speaker 1 I tell people this: the two pieces of advice I give them is: don't take anyone's advice because it's bullshit and they're just going to try to shame you and being like, Parenting is the hardest thing and the worst thing.

Speaker 1 It is hard, but it's the best thing.

Speaker 1 And the second is there will be a moment when when you get home

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 1 the most panic you've ever had in your entire life will wash over you and being like, oh my God, like there's no expert around.

Speaker 1 There's no person who's supposed to be, I am the person who is supposed to be keeping this thing alive. That will be a very anxious, panic-inducing moment, and then it will pass.

Speaker 4 The thing you have in that room next to you? Yeah, you're responsible for it for its entire life.

Speaker 1 It needs you for everything.

Speaker 4 I've raised a dog, so I pretty much understand exactly what it's like.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 11 Hey, PMT fellas. My husband listens to your podcast while showering, and every time before he hops in the shower, he says, About to go shower with the boys.

Speaker 1 Hey, cool.

Speaker 11 How do I get him to stop saying that?

Speaker 1 No, no,

Speaker 4 there's nothing more masculine than showering with a bunch of dudes. It's like after football, you know?

Speaker 1 Right back.

Speaker 1 Can you respond to this person and get this guy's name?

Speaker 1 I want to, at the beginning of one episode, be like, hey, Ryan, make sure you fucking clean that ass cheek, bro.

Speaker 1 Some dingleberries in there. Shower with the boys.
Ryan, looks like it's hanging low and lazy, my guy. We should do a podcast.
You've been working out, Ryan? Well, we're showering.

Speaker 1 You've been working out? Yeah.

Speaker 4 I mean, like, there's no better, more like cohesive team-building environment than in the locker room, right?

Speaker 1 Right. So showering.
We'll just locker room talk.

Speaker 4 Hey, Ryan, suck my dick. Hey, Ryan.

Speaker 1 One more tug on that thing. You're going to have to finish it off, buddy.
Yeah. You got to make a decision here.
Are you really jerking off in the shower or not?

Speaker 4 Three times just play with yourself, Ryan.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's the other thing. My son just watches me shower.
That's cool, too. He's just like, he's like, I want to go with you.
And then I just stand there and he's just looking at me.

Speaker 1 He's like, you're peeing. Like, yeah, taking a shower, dude.
It's fun. It's fun.
This is bonding shit.

Speaker 11 Hey, PMT, more of a curiosity than a problem. But I'm wondering why my boyfriend always has his hands in his pants when he's laying down or relaxing.

Speaker 11 If it's due to his hands being cold, I just feel like

Speaker 11 there are a lot of other places

Speaker 1 you could put them to be warm.

Speaker 11 When I ask him, he tells me he's always done it and he's not going to stop.

Speaker 11 Is this normal? Yes. This is a normal guy thing?

Speaker 1 What's the purpose?

Speaker 4 I think it is a guy thing. I don't really understand from

Speaker 4 an evolutionary standpoint why every guy does this. I think just to check to make sure it's still there.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's also just fun to just like hold it sometimes. Yeah.
Like it's, I don't know. It's just like I don't even, even, I would say half the time I have my hands down my pants.

Speaker 1 If someone walked in, was like, you have your hands down your pants, I'm like, what? I do? Oh, shit. Like, I don't even.

Speaker 7 It's like breathing.

Speaker 4 Yeah, just, well, also, because it's itchy a lot. You got, you got, like,

Speaker 4 no, I'm talking about like your, you know, your, your nutsack sticking to the side of your leg. Yeah, sometimes you got to do the pinch and roll move.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Things, you have to make a lot of adjustments on the go. Yeah.
Um, there, there is one person on our podcast who's a big hands down the pants guy or adjusting guy. It's Max.

Speaker 4 Max, you are, maybe you're the most qualified person in the world. Should we just say it out loud? Like, Max,

Speaker 4 you touch your genitals a lot.

Speaker 12 I do. That's been a huge problem with me my whole life.

Speaker 4 Have you ever done it in like a professional situation?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 12 Probably.

Speaker 4 I don't know when I'm doing it.

Speaker 12 Everyone I've been across has always given me.

Speaker 1 It's a guy thing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's comfortable. It is.

Speaker 12 If you're laying down on the couch,

Speaker 12 the hand, you're having a better time if you're hands down your pants.

Speaker 1 You should probably.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's we should test everyone else's to see who's got the most comfortable.

Speaker 9 Have you guys talked about this before? Because I always thought this, but never said it.

Speaker 1 About what? About Max touching himself.

Speaker 4 Oh, no, he's just a ball scratcher guy.

Speaker 1 There's like a few things that you just pick up. Like, Max touches himself.

Speaker 1 Hank always showing ass crack. Like, those are just the little things that we spend so much time with each other.
You just pick up your little idiosyncrasies. Like, we've all got,

Speaker 1 I don't want you to die, but if you someday die, it will just be like, oh, man, like, Max would be sitting right there with his hands down his pants. I miss that guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's true. It's true.

Speaker 9 See, I don't even think about it.

Speaker 1 It's just a thing.

Speaker 4 We'll bury you with your hand down your pants.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 11 Hi to my fave guys.

Speaker 11 Why do men get so intimidated when the mic's on? All right.

Speaker 1 You got this meme, Jane.

Speaker 11 When women actually know sports. I know more about sports, specifically football, than the majority of men I know.

Speaker 1 Definitely more than Max.

Speaker 11 Anytime I start talking, they either look at me like I'm an alien or try to dismiss me.

Speaker 1 Sorry, what was that?

Speaker 1 Like you're trying to dismiss me? Yeah.

Speaker 11 They look at me like I'm an alien or try to dismiss me as if I'm as if what I'm saying isn't 100% correct. Why can't they just accept that it's 2022 and women actually watch sports now?

Speaker 4 It's an insecurity thing. They'd rather get mad at you for knowing more about ball than they do than to have to deal with the fact that they need to up their ball knowing.

Speaker 1 It's also, we're very dumb.

Speaker 1 And the one thing that the majority of guys can can fall back on is like explaining to some women, not all women, because a lot of women know ball, but some women and some podcast producers explaining to them football.

Speaker 1 Like, it makes us feel smart when we explain things to other people. And I would say the majority of guys are not smart in anything except the sports that they obsessively watch.

Speaker 1 So it's like a safety net. But yeah, it's mostly insecurity.

Speaker 4 It does feel good, though, if a woman says to you, wait, why wasn't that pass interference? And you're like, well, because the ball was tipped

Speaker 4 scrimmage. Yeah, or like defense can hit each other.

Speaker 1 Why did Tyreek Hill get to return that fumble? It's like, well, you can return a fumble. Yeah.
Like those conversations

Speaker 4 unless it's fourth down. Yeah.
And there's less than two minutes left in the game. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, but it's, yeah, it's,

Speaker 1 the short, very short answer is guys are assholes and insecure.

Speaker 4 Okay. That's actually the answer to every guys on chicks question.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So, but keep keep knowing ball because that's fucking cool.

Speaker 1 And it's actually a great test because you will find your future boyfriend husband is the guy who's not insecure, who actually enjoys that, who can put his ego aside and just be a regular person.

Speaker 9 That guy's a winner. I was actually about to say I'd love to hear this person's takes.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Just like...

Speaker 9 Because it's like interesting because we only watch sports around dudes.

Speaker 4 Oh, you're like, oh, a woman knows ball? You're like studying her like she's like an anomaly.

Speaker 9 Well, I just want to hear her takes.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it'd be funny if her boyfriend actually hated football.

Speaker 1 Are you trying to make her airtight?

Speaker 9 No, I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 Are you trying to gangbang?

Speaker 9 Like, realistically, I only talk sports around you guys because that's where we're watching football.

Speaker 1 Like, I kind of don't want to talk about it.

Speaker 4 You know, females work here.

Speaker 1 We have female co-workers. I'm actually

Speaker 1 working.

Speaker 1 I'm on multiple shows with females. I'm in sports.
I'm not.

Speaker 4 Yes, you are. You're on shows with women.

Speaker 1 But Jake's right there.

Speaker 1 Billy, do you forget? We're really falling apart.

Speaker 4 Billy, do you forget what shows you're on? Do you forget who your co-workers are?

Speaker 9 When I'm on sports podcasts or sports shows.

Speaker 1 All right, so you should

Speaker 1 come sit into a college football show or a pro football show. I'll do.
Yeah, she's great at her job.

Speaker 4 You would be so intimidated, Billy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You'd be so scared. I'd actually want to hear that.

Speaker 4 We should do a podcast where it's just Billy trying not to be afraid around a girl.

Speaker 1 You should talk to Katie Stats. Katie Stats knows more about football than everyone in this room.
I know. So

Speaker 1 she's fucking awesome at her job. So let's have a one-on-one.

Speaker 9 I want to see the female perspective applied to football.

Speaker 1 It's the same as the male.

Speaker 4 What do you think the female perspective would be on football? I'm curious to know what

Speaker 1 that means. Let's unpack that a little bit.
Billy, what do you think? What do you mean?

Speaker 1 Billy thinks a female perspective is literally like every sack on the quarterback should be roughing the passer. That was too hard.

Speaker 1 Like, on, like, I don't know.

Speaker 9 Yeah, no, no, keep going. Everyone's got a unique perspective.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like why

Speaker 1 doesn't that guy tuck in his jersey? His fashion's all off. No, that's what you're thinking.

Speaker 1 They it would be the same. Yeah, like this woman

Speaker 1 probably knows ball just like us and would have a regular

Speaker 4 they'd probably be like those dolphins uniforms look way too pretty to win in the snow in Buffalo.

Speaker 1 No, actually, after Labor Day, ew. Yeah.

Speaker 9 Actually, to communicate what I'm actually trying to say is that most basic bros have the same takes, and I'd like to see if everyone says Zach Wilson's passing

Speaker 1 you see that's why

Speaker 1 that's why there's non-basic bros got it got it okay yeah it's actually good that that you're there's a diverse that your takes are so bad some yeah no extra there is the most guys on chicks guys on chicks of all time okay all right we got one more one more

Speaker 11 hey pmt guys i have a question regarding my boyfriend major fan of you to a point it is a little creepy honestly

Speaker 11 we have been together for almost two years now and we have our relationship at a very steady point We always have one question that we can never find the answer to, so I figured I would ask for your opinion.

Speaker 11 Has Hank ever guessed the lottery?

Speaker 1 Please help me find the answer to this.

Speaker 1 Well, let's find out. Do we have him? Okay,

Speaker 1 he's here. Hank, we just finished Guys on Chicks.
The last question was wondering if you've ever gotten the ping pong ball lottery machine correct. Have you?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 19 No, I have not.

Speaker 1 You've never gotten it.

Speaker 19 No.

Speaker 1 I also had a friend who hit me up and was like, we should give you extra spins of the machine, but every time you spin, you have to take away a vacation day.

Speaker 19 Well, that's impossible because I'm not allowed to get any. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 All right. So, all right.
So, that idea is out.

Speaker 4 Also, according to Hank's policies, we have unlimited vacation days at Bar School.

Speaker 19 Yeah, it's true. It's just the Overlords named Big Hat and PFT.
Don't allow anyone to.

Speaker 1 The Overlords, you're our boss. You are literally our boss.

Speaker 1 You're literally our boss. Oh, man, he's sick.
Okay, Hank.

Speaker 1 You had an idea for this? What you were going to say?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I have a proposition.

Speaker 19 I was thinking about it. I know I'm due.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no, no. No, you're not.
Let Hank cook real quick. But he's not due.

Speaker 1 That's a point of order. No, you're not.

Speaker 4 No, he's trying to put the pressure on us right now.

Speaker 19 No, I'm not. I actually think the cat will like this.
I don't want... When I win, I want to win in your guy's face.
I don't want it to be when I'm sick with no voice.

Speaker 1 Well, you're not going to win today. So what is this? What are we even talking about?

Speaker 19 Can I offer my proposition or just want to shut it down with me?

Speaker 1 I don't offer it.

Speaker 1 It's all based on the fact that you're due and that you're going to win today.

Speaker 4 Lord, give me the confidence that Hank Lockwood has right now to think he's going to get the lottery machine correct on today, of all days.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 if I win the mega millions, I want to do it around you guys. So that's why I'm not going to win it today, Hank.

Speaker 1 That's what you just said.

Speaker 19 Yeah, maybe I'm overstepping. All right.
Anyway, can I get to my point? Yeah, the guy who says, you know what?

Speaker 1 The guy who's literally never gotten it might be overstepping. Yeah.
This is like

Speaker 4 if back in 2016, Big Gat had been like, you know what? I don't want to beat the Indians because it's on the road.

Speaker 1 I'd rather win the World Series at home.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Go ahead, Hake. No, no, no.
Proposition us.

Speaker 19 All right, this is my proposition. I will give you a number today.

Speaker 19 It won't count, and then I want two on Friday.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 4 Wait, why would you give us a number that wouldn't count?

Speaker 1 Just imagine if it hits.

Speaker 4 How happy.

Speaker 1 It's not going to hit. Statistically, you're never going to get it.

Speaker 19 All right. Well, if it hits, you're going to be fucking pissed.

Speaker 15 Okay.

Speaker 1 I won't because it won't. It will.
What's your number? 11. 11.

Speaker 4 17. I'm taking 17.

Speaker 1 I'll take 84. Also, Jake, wait.

Speaker 19 Is Jake in the room?

Speaker 1 Yeah, of course.

Speaker 19 Jake, I need you to take your cell phone out and take a video of the machine.

Speaker 1 I won't lie.

Speaker 19 Because I know, but I still need you to do it because I can't see it.

Speaker 4 Memes, just change the wide to

Speaker 1 the lottery ball. Okay.
11 is Hank's number. I have 84.

Speaker 1 What do you have, PFT?

Speaker 4 Of course, I'm doing 17.

Speaker 1 It doesn't? Okay. All right.
I'm taking 18.

Speaker 10 20. Sebastian did not submit, so we're going to go with his most recent submission of 45.

Speaker 1 All right, fair. Memes?

Speaker 4 Yep. I got the camera going, Hank.

Speaker 1 Memes? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Three. All right, here we go.

Speaker 1 You wasted all that time.

Speaker 1 We wasted all that time. Memes, it does work like that.
Go back, go back. We wasted all that time on a number you're not going to get.

Speaker 4 I got it right here.

Speaker 1 Why did we even waste all that? Just listening to your 73? There you go.

Speaker 1 Is that fun for you, Hank?

Speaker 1 He tried to get us. He tried to get two on Friday.
You're never going to get it.

Speaker 1 You're never going to get it. Never going to get it.
Never going to get it.

Speaker 9 It's statistically better for him for that to happen on Friday.

Speaker 1 He's never got it.

Speaker 4 It doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 Statistics don't matter when it comes to 70.

Speaker 1 I don't think you understand the fact that this guy

Speaker 1 is the worst of all time at picking lottery.

Speaker 4 Why do you think that would have any difference on what he would pick on Friday?

Speaker 9 No, because

Speaker 9 if he has two numbers on Friday.

Speaker 1 Billy, we could give him a hundred numbers. We've given him 300 numbers.
He hasn't gotten it. He doesn't know how to do it.

Speaker 1 He literally does not know how the machine works.

Speaker 4 If Hank was smart, we should tell him just write down every number between 1 and 99 randomly, and then whatever the last number that you randomly were going to write down, that's not a good thing.

Speaker 1 No, if Hank was really smart, he would just go sequentially from starting at 1 and go all the way up and guess every number every single day and he would get it eventually as long as he doesn't miss a day did that happen did you miss a day once

Speaker 19 possibly

Speaker 1 did we reveal or slash did we lock in the bailout special where if we do a hundred drawings and if 17 is the last one then he still wins right yeah yeah i'll let him do that i don't care he's not gonna win anything yeah he's never gonna win it You're gonna win it in like the middle of August when everyone's like, oh, this is over.

Speaker 1 And you're going to be doing a big dance. I did the math, by the way.

Speaker 1 Depending on if you're doing one for the best of, it's seven or eight shows left.

Speaker 19 If I lose 5K, there's no dance.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, you'll dance. I'll make you dance.
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 Oh, I think so.

Speaker 1 But guess what? Again, we're wasting time. We're wasting air.
You're never going to get it. Let me guess.
You're so bad at this.

Speaker 9 Orcas will eat moose, but not humans because they're picky eaters. And that's probably the only reason why we haven't been attacked by orcas

Speaker 4 that and also they live in the ocean we live on land

Speaker 1 so do moose dude moose it's probably a big

Speaker 1 the reason why we haven't gotten into a war against against fish dude there are whales and sharks attack people all the fucking time yeah all the time

Speaker 1 you're the idiot

Speaker 1 no can we please keep the focus on the fact that hank's the idiot because he doesn't know how to pick the correct number?

Speaker 4 We should actually get an animal

Speaker 4 that's predicting numbers.

Speaker 1 Oh, they'll get it in a second. And

Speaker 1 the goldfish will get in two seconds.

Speaker 4 Like a chicken. Have a chicken.

Speaker 9 I'll bring in my hedgehog.

Speaker 1 Yeah, bring in your hedgehog. He'll get it.

Speaker 1 Is Hank smarter than a hedgehog? No.

Speaker 1 All right. Bye.

Speaker 1 you, love a

Speaker 1 girl.

Speaker 1 Something needless to say.

Speaker 1 I'm hot and it's about me, it's over a little bit.

Speaker 1 Still learning, but it's okay.

Speaker 1 Say after me.

Speaker 1 It's a better tip, save the time.

Speaker 1 Release your anger, release your mind, release the jar, release the time, release the strain, release the stress, release the love, forget the rest.