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Today is Friday, December 9th and Baker Mayfield is back.

The Rams fleeced the waiver wire.

Absolutely fleeced. Hollywood.
You know what Hollywood would do if you brought them to script big cat what would they do i i think they'd stab you in the throat with a stapler and and they'd stick a stick a dynamite up your ass i think they would be like they'd murder you they they would say no chance this can't happen the guy was signed two days ago he doesn't know the playbook they they did Sean McVay even threw out John Wolford for one series just to be like nah forget it Baker and it was it was a classic Thursday night football game for the pretty much the first I don't know 57 minutes and that I mean it sucked ass like it sucked ass it was the first drive was awesome the Raiders like hey this could be fun the Raiders are lively and then we just sat there watching suck ass football for probably three hours and then Baker they left too much time on the clock for Baker comes back down 16 to 3 in the fourth quarter making play after play doesn't know the playbook. I happy for baker i really am like that that was actually cool to see on the sideline how excited he was how the team was how sean mcveigh was i also have a stay woke for you pft you ready for this i'm always woke baker mayfield wears his little headband yeah i think there's padding in it yep yeah i was gonna say i think there's padding in it.
So he keeps doing the headbutt thing and everyone's like, holy shit, what a psycho. He's like, no, I'm good.
I noticed that after the game and he was being very aggressive with his headbutts, but he was making sure to line it up right on the headband. Yes.
He's got, he might have like two headbands in there. He might be double bagging it.
But congrats to Baker. Baker's going to go on a fuck you tour of all fuck you tours, at least for like the next three days.
He's going to just be scrolling Twitter, name searching, seeing all the stuff we've said about him in the past couple of years. Although, I mean, I did say that I'm a believer in Baker Mayfield again the second the Rams picked him up.
Like, I like Baker Mayfield. I still think he's got like all the tools.
He does have this cute little like jump pass thing that he does. Anytime that he's trying to throw a pass across the middle, where all the offensive and defensive linemen are, he does leap off both of his feet just to make sure that it gets over top.
But he's got that weird Baker Mayfield factor. You might call it moxie.
I might call it spunk. He's got some shit to him.
But it's also just a simple fact. No disrespect to Kevin Stefanski.
All the disrespect to Hugh Jackson. All the disrespect to Matt Rule.
He has, Sean McVay is so leaps and bounds ahead of those coaches that like, you know, Stafford's the quarterback. Let's see what happens with his injury.
if baker can find a second life in la with sean mcveigh as his coach like he will be good again because sean mcveigh is a fucking great coach and i was also pft i should we start be should we start talking about this being sean mcveigh's best coaching's done his, you know, Sean McVay has been to two Super Bowls, won a Super Bowl, but actually the 2022 season was his best job as a head coach. All right, so I love where your head's at to go down that path and be the first to say it.
I actually think that his best job coaching was in the Super Bowl when he limited Tom Brady to only 13 points, right? That? That's true. Yeah, that's pretty impressive, too.
Like that's that hasn't been done in a Super Bowl before. But no, I like where your head's at to to get Baker to be able to go out there.
And I mean, he's playing football. He's played football his entire life.
Al Michaels at times was talking about it like Baker Mayfield somehow learned how to do open heart surgery in the last like nine hours on an airplane on a cross-country flight. When they brought up this play call, I'm going to read this out loud.
This is a prototypical play call in the Sean McVay system. Lens to Deuce right, claw Z short, lander Z strong, X Revo, Z lock back, can to jet X Monday, Astro read alert money, Deacon flow panama on the omaha that's that's what they said was a play call and sean mcfay's system if that's the truth we need to stop talking about sean mcfay as being a genius because why don't we just run like quick slant or four yeah it's like seriously or just name name that play take all that stuff I just said, and then just call it Black.
You know? Right. There's no way.
Listen, I'm not a football genius. I did not play football past high school, but there's no way that we need all those words.
And if you do need all those words, then it's a fucking miracle that they ever get a play snapped in time before the play clock expires. It was also a very funny Kirk Herbstreet friend of ours, but he it's I did think Al had more life tonight.
I think it was because he was playing a home game and he just had to drive to the game. He felt like he was a little more chipper.
But Kirk Herbstreet, like the third, he was defending Baker all night because he knew like he was in an impossible spot. But he did have one have one funny comment in the third quarter.
He's like, Baker just needs to stop thinking and just go out there and throw. And it's like, dude, yeah, he doesn't know the playbook.
Of course that's what he has to do. He literally just met all these guys 48 hours ago.
All he can do is go out there and throw and play ball. And that's kind of how it went is like they couldn't score for three and a half quarters and then when you get to the end of the game and it's just like everyone just run their route and try to make some plays that's when it all started working and he fucking baker mayfield what like i was i i took the rams tonight and i was just happy that he fought for the cover the fact that they got the the ball back, he went 98 yards.
Insane. Insane.
There were a couple weird things that happened at the end, especially with the officiating. Pretty soft personal foul call.
Some other things that got called back. But Baker showed up when he had to.
Maybe just run the two-minute offense the entire time that you're playing. Just actually draw stuff up in the turf and let Baker go out there and just fucking sling it because that's what he does best and I'm I'm pumped to see Baker for the rest of the year all of a sudden the Rams went from maybe uh the most boring team to watch in the NFL for the rest of the season to one of the most exciting teams just to see what Baker's got so I was joke I was obviously a little joking the Sean McVay thing, but also kind of serious in the fact that they literally have lost their

entire team and the season is lost and it's the worst, you know,

Super Bowl defense ever statistically.

But the fact that like even the last three games,

how the Rams have fought, like they were about to win that Seahawks game.

Remember they went to Kansas City and yeah, Kansas City, it was never a doubt that the Chiefs were going to win but it wasn't the blowout that everyone was expecting it to be like they're fighting and they're they're I guess it's it's it's the fact that they don't have their draft pick because they like what's the point of losing when you don't have your first round draft pick but they're fighting fighting. Sean McVay, I might give him my vote for Coach of the Year.
Wow. So that goes, we've got Sean McVay.
We've got, who else? Vrabes, I think, got part of one of our votes. I think Mike McDaniel might have gotten some.
Brian Dable. Brian Dable already got one.
He got a full one. Yeah.
So we've been given a lot of them but yeah so throw shot we should actually let's make sure that we do that graphic at the end of the year all our coach of the year and it's just like 17 names it's the Magic Johnson coach of the year oh speaking of Magic Johnson we got breaking we got breaking news for Magic tonight I want to make sure that we we get this out here because we haven't addressed this on the show. And the media hasn't been talking about it.
It's crickets. It's crazy, actually, that this story just – Magic broke it.
He did. So six hours ago, Magic Johnson – Breaking news.
Breaking news. Can we get – What? Wow.
There you go, Hank. congratulations to coach deon sanders on being named the head coach of the university of colorado per magic johnson six hours ago shout out magic uh we appreciate you know what the rock is kicked out of line for club 999 magic johnson's the next one up if magic johnson i i want him to be my millionth follower to unlock the club we know some people that know magic rob low i know you're out there talk to magic just tell him to hit that follow button he doesn't even have to stay follow me he can unfollow me after like five minutes i don't care just tell magic to follow me rob do you know what there's also no way that magic like scrolls on twitter No, no.
Well, he texts that we know this is confirmed. That's what I'm saying.
I feel like Magic Johnson is realistic. I got to find out if we have any mutual followers.
I'm going to say this about Magic. This is actually a nice spin zone that I just came up with in my head.
In a world of fake news, people rushing to report things before their facts i respect the fact that magic johnson is like you know what i'm gonna wait until dion has slept in boulder colorado for at least three nights before i report this news yeah i'm gonna wait you know what it is magic johnson waits until he hears his first rick riley joke about something and then he puts it out there is real it's just so perfect but um all right so raiders the other side of this game they're dead that was it i was actually like i wasn't nervous about my pinky but i also looked at the schedule i was like wait they're five and seven that happened out of nowhere they that was a game like they had to win out and the fact they lost that game was just so Raiders and so this Raiders season I also appreciate Derek Carr I think every uh broadcast team when they do a Raiders game if Derek Carr like comes out hot they always have to put up the graphic being like Derek Carr like no team Derek Carr has played for a team that their defenses have given up the most points in the NFL like for the last decade they always do like the sad Derek Carr's really good but he's just very unlucky graphic they threw that out there in the first quarter quarter and I was like yep it's like because you know the game scripts always go like are we gonna talk about baker which they did at the end or we're gonna talk like oh derrick carr like you know this guy's really really good like he is like in the tom brady aaron rogers class he's just unlucky yeah like he's patrick mahomes josh allen he's just unlucky as he looks and and that that just got robbed of him in the second half it's because he looks so sad all the time. He always looks super sympathetic.
He's got the eyeliner goth thing going, and people just look at him. He looks like a guy that's honestly locked himself in his room for 12 hours listening to the cure to get ready for the game.
He goes out there, and he starts out pretty good. He looked good in the first quarter.
Josh Jacobs looked good in the first quarter, too. Then he threw that one interception in the end zone it was Derek Carson Wentz it was Carson Wentz it was like off one foot as he's falling backwards just fluttered up in the air two guys were going to intercept it if not a third and from that point on so he's a guy that he will come out he'll look good but if something goes wrong if he he's like always struggling to believe in himself and right right when he starts to like really get his mojo going if he does something to interfere with that confidence then it's like a balloon that gets popped for the rest of the game and then he's just you can't use him he also Derek Carr might just be sneaky like uh fuck analytics guy because he's like I I don't I three points.
It's three points. It's seven points or nothing.
If we're not going to get a touchdown here, I'm going to throw a comically bad interception to make sure we don't kick a field goal. It was a very funny interceptions.
Also, did you see – so Devontae Adams' catch in the first quarter. Incredible.
It was amazing. It was awesome.
But like we're at the point where we've we've become desensitized to the one-handed catches because that catch if that catch happened 15 years ago we would talk about it for years it would be called like the catch nobody would shut up about it it would it would lead the ESPYs it would be like on every year in review clip that you'd ever see and now it was amazing to watch but I also feel like we're gonna forget about it by Sunday well it's just receivers are just so fucking good now they just are yeah I'm like they're just so so fucking good like it feels like every you know I don't know 20 out of the 32 teams have like a receiver that just can make those catches. And is that fucking good? Yeah.
I'm thinking that it might be the gloves. Maybe the gloves are making the one-handed catches so easy.
But then if that's the case, why don't defensive backs wear wide receiver gloves? That's true. What were you going to say, Hank? No, I was going to say this clip of Mac Hollins, friend of the program, at least friend of mine, first guy I ever met when I went to meet Caleb at UNC.
He was his roommate. He was gritting on the punt at the end of the game.
He grittied to down it. Oh no.
And so that after a loss is a tough look. I feel bad for the guy because if they won, it's cool, but they did not.
I think back in 2012, right when I was starting to write online, I got pre-mad about the day that would come one day where people would do celebration dances for Downing Punts, and we finally hit it. We finally hit that.
I'm so glad that it went the other way and they lost the game after that because it would be so lame if Matt Collins got away with doing that. I'm very happy it happened.
That's incredible. Holy shit.
Shout out to Matt Collins, though. Great guy.
Yeah, good game out of nowhere. That's tough.
That's really tough. Shout out Baker.
Also, I know we have Fyre Fest, but I have another Fyre Fest if I could real quickly. I don't know if you guys saw.
I quote tweeted as a joke because it was a funny Photoshop of me looking like, I don't know, 400 pounds. Everyone thought it was real.
Credit to me, Mick, I did not think that was real. I did have to double check, though.
That was a no way this is real situation. So many people were replying that it was real.
I was like, fuck, that's believable. Shit.
No, it didn't look real at all though i think those people were just messing with you there was if those people were just messing with me it was hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people who all no it was real enough people were doing the thing people were doing the thing where they're sending me their their uh text messages with their families where they'd sent the picture and like the mom's like i didn't know he was that fat you know those like those are the worst i it was a no way this is a real situation but i did have to like go and find the original picture because i was like maybe maybe yeah so yeah exactly it was the same yeah yeah that's all right no but i knew i knew it was fake. I knew it was fake.
Yeah. It's fine.
It's fine. I'm not hurt.
I'm not hurt at all. I'm just going to skip breakfast and lunch tomorrow.
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Week 14. Uh-oh.
Week 14. A lot of buys this week.
Six teams on a buy this week, and guess what? It's a weird time for a buy. I don't know why.
It's a weird time for a buy, but they, damn, did they get it right with the buys this week because it's all bad teams. It's the Falcons.
It's the Bears. It's the Packers.
It's the Colts. It's the Saints and the Commanders.
Commanders are the best team out of that. The other five.
We're sniffing around. I can just say, like, I'm okay not watching football.
The other five teams. Yeah, it's pretty good.
It's just weird having a bye this late in the season. In December.
December doesn't feel like bye season to me. Is this the end of bye? I think this is the last bye.
Okay. I mean, it's fantasy playoffs next week.
No one cares, but it's a lot of buys for the last week of the season. That's true.
But these teams suck. Like, if you have players, if the majority of your roster is built on Falcons, Bears, Packers, Colts, and Saints, you're not in the playoffs.
Wait, how many buys are there this week? Six. Six? Six teams.
All the fantasy relevant players on those teams haven't really panned out. No, no, that's what I'm saying.
You're not in the playoffs. Powell pits out for the year.
You're probably like, nice. I don't even have to think about how bad my team is.
Hank, I had an idea for the Hungry Dog this week because it – did it hit last week? No. Has it hit recently? No.
Yeah, well, in the past year, yes. Oh, the past year.
Yeah, it's been pretty successful. Like last December, it was good.
So maybe it's just the time of the year that it's going to be but I had an idea for it when what if yeah you could win what if you just what if you just took uh took like favorites and then bought points to turn them into it worked for you in the competition you took the uh lions minus three in the pick on last week yeah yeah absolutely nailed that but look what like what if you what if you took teams that were like what if you took the Cowboys. Were they minus 17? Made pick on last week.
Yeah, absolutely. Nailed that.
They smoked them. But what if you took the Cowboys?

Were they minus 17?

Made them 14.

Yeah, made them 14.

Bought it all the way back,

and you took the three biggest favorites this week,

turned them into underdogs, and then parlayed those.

What does that pay out?

Got to be minus money.

As a plus sign enthusiast, I don't know that I can...

I'm just trying to get you in the win, Carl.

No, I know, but minus... I've been giving him advice.
I don't know if he's taking...

Are you taking my advice this week? Two teams?

Two teams. Yes.
Okay.

Two teams. I'm a listener.

That's just a bad idea. Just see

a free throw. This one's not as bad.

He needs to see one go through the net.

I'm going to take my idea.

You take your idea and we'll see where he has more money.

Great.

Good. Good.
Awesome. Good.
All right. I'm awesome.
Wonderful. Fucking fantastic.
Fan. Lovely.
I can't wait. Okay.
Should we get into it? So what are the records? It's bad. Well, I think I'm 0-9 in my last two weeks, and I'm outside with Hank for last place.
And by the way, we got to be worried about Jake because he's already talking about needing Tommy John if he has to pull.

Yeah.

Jake, you're not going to need Tommy John.

Shoulder might be hurting.

It's confirmed, basically.

He was like, if I have to do it, I'm getting Tommy John.

You should get pre-Tommy John.

I'd like you've already scheduled the appointment.

Do you have an existing elbow injury?

No, I have an existing shoulder injury. So you just think you'll need Tommy John because of it? I mean, that or my stomach might explode.
Okay. Your stomach will need Tommy John.
I think if me and Hank get in last, that's the biggest question marks for how this ends. Because Hank, he's not a big eater.
So him having to eat 30 hot dogs. That's personal information've notable stomach issues we don't know how that would end i'll get it done wait if he's not a big eater who would be considered a big eater the fattest fuck guys in the room i wanted to give you a layup bank here you've been hurt you haven't gotten anything right in fucking all year well either have i i And I'm tied with Hank now.
Anyways, up top, Big Cat at 27-25-1. PFT closing the gap.
Only half game behind. There you go.
Then Max at 25-27. Billy's 22-31.
So he's two games up on me and Hank. So I'm in first.
20 picks left. And I'm two above 500.
Correct. Yikes.
Yeah. So this week, I was looking at the over-unders.
I just might go under straight across the board. I love these unders.
There's some crazy ones, too. Yeah.
Yeah. What do you say, Billy? One of you guys might want to tank.
Why would you want to tank for this one? Because to get second. Yeah.
I'm just going to keep picking. PFC would never do that.
Yeah. I respect the integrity of the competition far too much.'m just gonna keep picking and hope i don't know because that's the closest that's way closer than the last yeah well the thing is i don't really care about like if i if i win this one or if i lose this one i would rather not lose this one because it feels like it's gonna be a tough competition will but i'm not gonna i'm not gonna mix around with like any of my picks or anything.
That was a one-time thing, and it worked to perfection,

but I'm not going to run it back.

This is one of those ones that as long as you don't think you need Tommy John,

it's going to suck, but you can get through it.

Well, the crazy thing is I probably do need Tommy John,

but I'm not worried about this.

You'll be fine, Jake.

Yeah, I would welcome the challenge.

And at the end of the day, like the dip, it's all about the AWLs.

Yeah, that's true.

That's true.

Okay, so should we get into it?

I mean, there's some decent games this weekend.

Yeah.

I'm excited about a few of the games.

Billy, you got a big, big matchup against the Bills,

like basically season-altering if you can win that game.

There's two season-altering games.

What's the other season-altering game?

Thank you. the Bills, like basically season altering if you can win that game.
There's two season altering games. What's the other season altering game? Different other conference.
Similar scenario. Actually, almost the exact same scenario.
Are you talking about Eagles-Giants? Yeah. Oh, okay.
Yeah, that's true. That's fair.
Yeah. And then the Sunday night game is going to be fun.
Miami versus the Chargers.

That's just a fun jersey matchup.

That's like almost throwing like an 80s Halloween party.

It's going to look nice under the lights.

Yeah.

Those two uniforms for sure.

Yeah.

All right, Hank, your favorite favorite,

and let's talk about every game this weekend.

My favorite favorite is the San Francisco 49ers minus three and a half against the Bucs. Okay.
Bucs look disgusting. I think the 49ers are really, really good.
They're going to make a run. They're going to...
I just think the Bucs are so bad. They're really bad.
You're a believer in Brock Purdy? They barely beat... Big cock Brock.
I'm a big believer in the 49ers offense, defense, coaching. I don't think the QB matters as much.

I've always said that about Jimmy G, and I think this week is going to show it. I like Brock.
He's got the it factor. So I like that pick, Hank.
I keep thinking about this game because it does feel like it's going to be a low-scoring game. I think the overrunners, what, 37? Yep.
The thing that I keep going back to, though, when I'm like, ooh, should I take the points? He's low scoring.

The 49ers are going to just wreak havoc on this. The thing that I keep going back to, though, when I'm like, ooh, should I take the points because of low scoring?

The 49ers are going to just wreak havoc on this Tampa Bay offensive line.

Like, Tom Brady doesn't trust the offensive line at all,

and now you have to go up against a defense that flies around. And remember, we were talking about Monday Night Football.

Like, the Bucs just seemed slow.

The 49ers are opposite of slow.

This is like a sliding doors moment. If Mark Ingram had stayed in bounds, which he should have done in that fourth quarter, we would all be just crapping down the Bucs' throat right now.
We would absolutely hate the Bucs. But they got a win because of some fluky stuff.
And yeah, Brady made a couple big plays down the stretch. Don't want to take that completely away from him.
But the Buccaneers should have lost that game on Monday night. The fact that they didn't is really fucking with our memories right now.

It's true.

Because we should be remembering this Bucs team for what we saw after the first three quarters,

which is just a big turd and a giant punch bowl.

You could even say after the first 57 minutes.

Yeah.

That's the craziest part.

It's like they were bad for 57 minutes.

Yeah, it was just a big steaming pile of crap is what we should be thinking about when we think about the Buccaneers. Okay, good pick, Hank.
Three and a half bucks. Or 49ers.
Against the Bucs. Big cock Brock.
Max. Detroit Lions minus two.
Yep. Love it so much.
Yep. Yep.
Let's go. Yep.
Yep. Let's go, Max.
Yep. Let's go.
How do you guys like this? Yep. What do you mean? How do we like it? Yeah, I'll tell you why.
How do you guys like this? Billy, let me take you to school real quick. You want to hear some cold, hard facts? I want to hear some facts.
Okay, cold, hard fact number one. Out of every single team to ever be 10-2 since the 1970 merger, and that's a shitload of them, the Vikings are by far and dead last for point differential.
differential by far i'm talking their point differential is three times smaller than the second best or than the second worst team which was the 2019 seahawks the vikings they're frauds well we're correct about the vikings and the lions are a good team the lions are good at football this is this is now uh the groundhog's day uh of part of my take is every Monday being like The Lions are good at football. This is now the Groundhog's Day

of part of my take is

every Monday being like, the Vikings are good.

What more can you say? And then Friday

being like, go against them.

They're frauds. It's over.

They're dead. Billy,

I'm taking it for one simple reason.

The Vikings are 10-2.

The Lions are 5-7. The Lions are

two-point favorites. That makes no sense.
Yeah. That makes no sense.
So you have to take the favorite. You guys are experiencing a logical fallacy, though, by looking at the numbers next to their schedule, and you're thinking of that Bill Parcells.
Your record is what your record says you are. That's got to be the dumbest thing ever said to be re-quoted by everybody else pretending that it's scripture in the history of the written word.

Past performance, not indicative of future results.

The Lions are good.

America needs to come to the realization that the Detroit Lions are good at playing football.

But the Vikings are good.

The Vikings are good.

But they're also frauds.

Because of the point differential?

Okay, here's what I will say about this game. correct no no hank's right here's what right here's what i will say about this game i'm i so you also have the lions yeah all right so max pft and i all have the lions uh this is gonna blow up in her face so bad this game i guarantee you one thing about this game this game is going to be the last game to finish in the one o'clocks.
And whoever is leading for the majority of the game will lose the game. So, like, if the Vikings are winning all game, I'll feel great about my Lions pick.
And it will also be, like, 430, 435. And I'll be like, whoa, this game's still on? There's just going to be stupid shit that happens in this game.
It will make no sense. but I'm going to do it.
I'm going to do it. From a statistical standpoint, Kirk Cousins is not good against the Blitz.
That's just a fact. He's not even in the top 20, I don't think, in the NFL against the Blitz.
The Lions love to Blitz, and they've been getting big pressure on quarterbacks recently. Kirk Cousins, not a good matchup for him.

The Lions should have beaten them the first time that they played.

It was a fluky little result at the end.

I like the Lions.

You know what?

I might bet the Lions up again.

What did I have them at last week?

Minus three?

You went from minus a half to minus three.

No, I'm going to stick minus two and a half.

I like two.

It's minus two right now.

No, I was saying last week.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay.

Minus two.

The other thing, we all know the new nightmare. Kirk Cousins just kills it in the noon one o'clock slot.
Jared Goff also been very good in that time frame. He's 25 and 13 against the spread in 1 p.m.
Eastern or earlier. I like that.
So new nightmare versus new nightmare. But wait, this is going to be played at one, right? Because it's in Detroit.
But it's noon in Minnesota.

Yeah, but it's in Detroit. It is in the Dome.
At 1.

Vikings are good in the Dome. Dome sweet

Dome. So are the Lions.
I know.

But they handled the Jets' blitz

pretty well.

But the Jets should have won that game. Yeah, you actually

definitely should have won that game. You should have won that game.
Billy, why are we

Jetsplaining to you? Yeah. Well, remember

you didn't watch the game, you watched the tape after. I watched the tape after.

So you don't realize how much the Jets should have won that game. Yeah you guys yeah exactly so you were like how did we lose it not watching being like can we win this did you guys see the what if standings that got released on twitter that i love looking at these it's the if every single game played in the nfl this year one possession game had a flipped result so any game that was eight or less, you flip the result.
What would team's record be? The Vikings would be 1-11. Yeah.
Well, I mean, that goes back to what we were saying about the Vikings, which is like we talk a lot of shit about them. You don't like the what-if standings? I love the what-if standings.
But at the same time, they know how to win close games. They've been through that before.
So it is – I do like thinking that the Vikings could be 1-11, though. Honestly, they'd be the best 1-11 team of all time.
We'd be talking about how frisky they are. You know the top three seeds in the AFC are? Browns, Raiders, Jaguars.
I love it. I love the what-if standings.
The top seeds in the NFC would be 49ers, Lions, Cowboys, Falcons. And then the Seahawks, Bears, and Cardinals would make the playoffs.
The what-if standings rule. That just means that the Cowboys are really, really good if the Cowboys are still in the playoffs.
And this also is just me telling on myself how sad my life is as a Bears fan because I love the what-if standings because every December I look at them and I'm like, oh, what if? Yeah. Like, what if the ball had bounced a little bit differently here or there?

Yeah.

What if?

Maybe there's a reason why you've lost a lot of games by six points.

Yeah, exactly.

So, yeah, all right.

So, we all have the Lions.

The only other what ifs.

Oh, yeah, the Giants would have been 2-9-1.

So, that was the other what if standings that stuck out.

Billy, your favorite favorite.

That was a spirited Vikings Lions preview.

I like it.

I'm jacked up for this game.

This game, I'll say right now, this game's getting sound.

Yeah.

This game's getting sound.

I'm actually going to go max units on this one.

Okay.

I'm going to put my money where my mouth is.

So if I lose, it's going to sting.

You're betting with Batgirls money?

It's going to sting.

Oh.

Yeah.

Maximum units.

Got it.

I'll be on the Vikings.

I'm sure you will.

Thanks, Hank.

No duh. Good thing you don't show up

until 6 o'clock.

Lucy.

My favorite, it goes down in

Ohio. Bengals by 6

over the Browns. I like the Bengals.

It goes down in Ohio.

Down in Ohio.

The only reason I don't like it.

The Bengals are way better than the Browns.

Deshaun Watson stinks.

He looks like last week. He's a pervert.
Yes. The Browns do own the Bengals right now.
They're 5-0 straight up against them the last five games they've played, which is Joe Burrow, Kevin Stefanski, Zach Taylor. It's the iteration of these teams, and I can't get that Monday night game out of my head where the Browns were dead, and they just absolutely buried the Bengals.
So I like it, but I'm also worried maybe the Browns just have the Bengals' number, and the Bengals win the rest of their games, but they lose this one. However, this is a little bit different because it is Deshaun Watson.
Deshaun Watson sucked last week. True.
I think they beat the Texans. They covered against the Texans.
But I think they had two defensive touchdowns and a special teams touchdown. So it's not like Deshaun Watson did anything to beat them last week.
I'm more worried that the Browns' run game might have their numbers. Here's the difference, though.
This week, do you know what the Cincinnati Bengals did to get ready for the game? What'd they do? They have removed the ping pong tables from the locker room. So this is a ping pong table game for Cincinnati.
No distractions. I'm a big believer in ping pong tables.
It doesn't matter if you put the ping pong tables into the locker room or if you take them out of the locker room. If you're moving a ping pong table around that week will bet on your team but it changes the vibe i don't think that worked but they just beat the chiefs but it's vibe change that's i like that even more it's saying we're not going to be complacent we just beat the best team in sports okay i think they were number one in jake's all sports uh power rankings they they removed the tables because they're saying we're ready to go i had the warriors the Warriors.
That's bullshit. It should be the Chiefs.
Swag like Ohio. This game's going to be insane.
I think that the Bengals are going to be like, yo, we've lost the Browns so much. Let's get up for this game.
That's why they put the table and they're taking it so seriously. I took it out.
And Deshaun Watson is a pervert. If I had gunned to my head, I would take the Bengals in this game.
no doubt. I'm just saying the thing that's making me nervous is the fact that the Browns have owned the Bengals.
Yeah. That's just – some teams just have other teams' numbers.
This game's in Cleveland? In Cincinnati. Yeah, yeah.
So I don't think it's a – I think it's like a homecoming game. They were home last week.
I know, but like double – But it's another homecoming. Sometimes homecoming isn't scheduled.
And Cleveland's also in Ohio. I know.
So triple homecoming. Exactly.
It's a triple homecoming Billy special. No, but it's like you schedule a homecoming game against a weaker opponent knowing that you're going to win.
But sometimes that gives motivation to the other game. It's not a trap game.
When is the dance? Are they having the dance on Saturday? I think so. I think homecoming week for the Bengals was the Panthers game.
Right. That game that was like late October, beautiful out.
They put up like 42 points. That was homecoming.
No, this is senior night. This is senior night.
Homecoming was the white helmet, the first white game. That was too early.
That was in September. Sometimes you have an early homecoming, though.
This is like senior night. It's like it's a big night.
So they're getting it going. Homecoming.
Yeah. It's Har.
Yeah, it's Harambe night. Yeah, Harambe night.
Okay. Yeah, it's officially Harambe.
If they really wanted to beat the Browns and get that monkey off their back, they would actually do Harambe night. Yes.
Okay. Favorite.
I'm taking the Titans minus four against the Jaguars. This is put up for shut up time for the Titans.
They got smoked last week. They lost the week before to the Bengals.
If they lose this game or don't look good, I think people will be out on them come playoff time. So this is hopefully a get-right game for them.
Yeah, they did get smoked. The Jaguars coming off of an obvious loss, I just feel like there's a big pendulum with the Jaguars, and you just bet against whatever it was they did the previous week.
And I also think there's two games this week, the Monday night game, Cardinals-Patriots, and then this game, Jaguars-Titans, that if you have a strong opinion on either side, I'm like, I don't believe you. Yeah.
Because I just could, you could tell me. I'm 0-9 for a reason.
Yeah, you could tell me any result in this game, and I'm like, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, I just think that the Titans have probably a big case of senioritis because they won the division in, like, week four this year.

It was actually preseason.

Yeah, there's nothing that they can do to lose that division.

And they just fired their boss.

Yeah, they fired their boss.

Everybody's good.

They could fire everybody in the front office, still win the division,

and still have that first-round loss in the playoffs.

Yes.

Okay. Underdogs.
So Jake has the Titans minus four. This will not be in the hungry dog because I don't think they're going to win the game.
Threading the needle a little bit, but I'm taking the Giants plus six and a half against the Eagles. Simple as this.
Divisional game. Giants need it.
Divisional game. No love loss.
It's going to be close. It's going to be tight.
I think the Eagles will win, but it's a divisional game no love loss it's gonna be close it's gonna be tight yeah i think the eagles will win but it's divisional game i it is uh i see if i have the number it's it's a pretty good like if you just bet an under a home underdog in division late in the season it's almost automatic yeah it's like i think it's over 60 yeah so um my my stats that i'm going to use, and Billy did look this up, but StatHoleSports also checked it out for us. The heaviest teams, we talked about which teams on average weighed the most.
As the current roster stands right now, the New York Giants have by far the fattest team. I think they're up around 250 pounds per person, and they severely outweigh the Philadelphia Eagles.

But that depends on how many offensive linemen they have active.

I'm talking about their active roster.

That's all I'm saying.

Right, but that might switch for game time.

Well, sometimes the Giants don't have even a full active roster, remember?

Right.

Because they're in cap hell.

So the Giants, I think it's about 250 pounds per player,

and then the Eagles are all the way down there at, I want to say they're more around 244 pounds per player. That's my metric that I'm using.
Take Devontae Smith out and then maybe we're good. That's true.
Good point. Although Jordan Davis is like 400 pounds.
For the record on that stat, as of full rosters on profootballreference.com and their weights uh the packers are the heaviest team at 251 pounds which is six pounds more than the average nfl player on nfl team fat asses oh here was the stat i was gonna say in uh december or later over the last 20 years teams with a 90 plus uh win percentage are 32 percent against the spread And when they play on the road, they are 32% against the spread.

And when they play on the road, they're 20% against the spread.

So pretty much when you're late in the season,

the teams that are really, really good,

they struggle covering spreads because the spreads get so big,

which makes sense.

These teams are a lot more even,

but the record makes everything get out of control.

All right, so you have the Giants, 6.5 max. Chargers, plus 3.5.
Okay. It's 3, and it's against the Dolphins.
Yeah, I don't hate that. It's going to be the entire conversation is just going to be about Tua or Justin Herbert for this game.
It's going to be a redraft festival. And Justin Herbert's not getting enough help, which I'm firmly in that camp.
I'm just all the way in on just treating Justin Herbert exactly how I treated Phil Rivers, being like, I love watching this guy. He's not the best, but he's pretty damn good, and he needs more help.
I mean, Philip Rivers at one point had LT, Darren Sproles, and Michael Turner, and Antonio Gates. He did.
And Vincent Jackson. Yeah, that team went to the AFC Championship.
Yeah, they're pretty good. I think Mike Williams comes back this weekend.
Well, you could just say, we could just plug in every week, like Keenan Allen might play or Mike Williams. And then next week, whoever played, all the other guys might play.
But now I think they're both back. Really? Yeah.
Until one gets hurt in half or a quarter.

So take the charge in the first half.

Yeah.

All right.

So you have chargers.

All right.

PFT?

Ravens at Steelers.

So I don't know what the number is right now.

Ravens plus two.

Oh, I thought it was plus one and a half.

Ravens plus two.

These two teams don't like each other very much.

There's no love lost.

You can throw out the record books when these two teams get together. That's my entire analysis.
Tyler Huntley. Tyler Huntley.
I love him as a backup. Tyler Huntley.
He's a fun backup. Also, the Ravens defense is good.
The Ravens defense, they've been improving all season. And Kenny Pickett, he's been very good recently.
I think this is a step-back game for them. They had to.
I'm surprised they weren't higher up on the what if rankings ravens yeah well no because they've won they've won and lost a bunch of one yeah i guess one possession games they keep they keep getting double digit leads yeah losing them and then barely winning they have the exact same record eight yeah that's that's the best part about the what if rankings uh okay my underdog. I'm getting a little afraid of how much I like this pick.
The Carolina Panthers plus three and a half at the Seahawks. I really like this pick.
I think the Panthers are frisky. I think the Seahawks are okay, but these teams are a lot closer than people realize.
Panthers a good defense i also think and this maybe he played well because we're taping this uh in the afternoon i think the panthers might be even a little bit better than we give them credit for now that baker's not their quarterback well baker and i'm believing in sam darnold again baker stunk as the panthers quarterback so bad therecoating that. Right.
I think that Baker was, like, the worst quarterback in the NFL when he was playing on the Panthers. Right.
I think he'll be good eventually, but it was just bad vibe. It was a bad relationship.
It was. For both sides.
It was chaotic. They were both to blame.
Right. So now you have Sam Darnold who, like, hey, throw it to DJ Moore.
That kind of stuff. Yeah.
So I just think this game, you know, Seahawks off a pretty emotional comeback win. Panthers, I think, off of a bye.
Yes, a bye. I like the Panthers plus three and a half.
A couple things about this game. One, I do like the Panthers defense.
Panthers defense is better than I think most people are giving them credit for. Second thing, though, that makes me lean towards the Seahawks.
Did you hear about Turf the Dog? No, what happened? RIP Turf me lean towards the seahawks did you hear about turf the dog no what happened r.i.p turf the dog the uh the seahawks internal dog that they had a three-legged good boy passed away after a lengthy battle this this week so what uh internal being in the ticket office no like he was hanging out with the team and meetings and stuff like that he around the team facility. He was a three legged dog named turf.
Yeah. No, that doesn't help.
And, uh, they had, they brought him out on the practice field every day and he would like chase away the, the geese and the birds and all that. And then playing the sprinklers.
He was a good boy. He passed away.
It feels like a turf, the dog game to me. God damn it.
So I got to change my pick. You don't have to.
I wanted you to be aware because if the Seahawks won that

and they have a big in memoriam for Turf the Dog during the game,

you're going to be like, why didn't anybody tell me about Turf the Dog?

Fuck.

Okay, look up his Twitter account.

No, I'm looking for another underdog.

God damn it.

I mean, I'm just saying turf the dog fuck broncos plus nine and a half

against the chiefs the game that was flexed out oh man the look on jake's face with that flex

i called the flex out but i missed the replacement you're better now that's uh you know what stew

finer you know the picks that make you uncomfortable are the best picks the broncos that's a gross

Thank you. the replacement.
You're bitter. It's an L.
That's... You know what? Stu Feiner, you know,

the picks that make you

uncomfortable are the best picks.

The Broncos.

That's a gross pick.

Do you know how...

Do you know

Patrick Mahomes' record

against the AFC West

on the road?

Infinity and zero.

26 and two.

It's 14 and 0.

Yeah.

How insane is that?

It's crazy.

14 and 0.

9 and 5 against the spread. This is gross.
You did this to me. I wanted to make you aware of turf.
You would have gotten so mad if nobody told you about turf. Listen, you get 20% blame.
Turf for dying gets 80%. Yeah, so whatever you want to do.
No, no, I'm taking the Broncos. I'm taking the Broncos.
I'm going full steam ahead. That's my pick.
Broncos plus nine and a half. It's the grossest pick on the board outside of the Texans.
Let's just fucking do it. Broncos countries, let's rock.
If you're the Broncos defense this week, you keep showing up every single week. And then last week, maybe more than ever, you played your ass off in that game, and you still couldn't get enough points to beat the Ravens.
Is this a major letdown spot where you're going up against the Chiefs or is this a like let's go out and this is the best offense that we could possibly be going against I do think people get up for the Chiefs yeah yeah so so okay yeah I still don't like how the Broncos didn't play their starters in the preseason no that's why they're losing right now this is absolutely this the Broncos are terrible but nine and a half a lot. They covered 9 last week against the Ravens.
Yep. Lamar did get hurt, but yeah.
All right. Billy.
So for my first dog, I really like the Vikings plus 2 against the Lions. Don't let us talk you out of that.
I know, but the Jets are plus 9.5 against the Bills. They're actually plus 10.
They're plus 10? Oh, man. Vaughn Miller out for the year? That's a big number to move up from 9.5 to 10.
I know. But I like the Vikings pick.
I also do it. No, go with it.
But the Jets? Are you a Jets fan? Yes. I think they definitely do cover.
Oh. You know why? Okay, this is my reasoning.
It is going to be snowy and 39 degrees in Buffalo at 1 p.m. on Sunday.
We sure about that? Yes. In Buffalo, not an hour and a half away from Buffalo.
In Buffalo, New York. Okay.
Meaning it's going to be a low-scoring game, meaning both teams, you know, that's a very wide spread for a low-scoring game.

It's true, like by percentage, yes.

So I've just talked myself into taking the Jets by 10.

This happens literally every week.

I know, and it works.

Every week.

It works.

It works.

It's worked.

Every week.

The Jets did not cover last week.

I know, but then I also put them as an under.

Every week, Billy says, I'm going to take somebody else, and then he talks himself into the Jets did not cover last week. I know, but then I also put them as an under.
Every week, Billy says, I'm going to take somebody else,

and then he talks himself into the Jets.

They didn't hit the under last week.

I know, they hit the over.

Yeah.

But, like, look at how well my Jets picks have been doing

over the past couple weeks.

They've only hit, I think last week was the first time it didn't hit in, like.

Your one and two in your last three. But look, look farther than that.
No, no, take the Jets, Billy. All right, Jets by 10.
The second that you said I was going to do the Jets, I knew that you were going to end up doing the Jets. But the Vikings pick, I don't understand why they're not favored.
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I kind of zoned out for a minute there. Billy just, he was going to pick something else and you ended up with Jets.
Yeah. Okay.
I was listening, Billy. You could have a chat GPT AI robot, write an entire script, a part of my take, and Billy would talk himself into the Jets every single time.
Mike White, he's finally in there. Yeah, he's in there.
He's big time in there. Mike fucking White.
No Von Miller. Jake.
I'm taking the Buccaneers plus three and a half against the 49ers. Obviously, we broke down this game earlier, but if you look at it from a basic perspective, Tom Brady's an underdog against Brock Purdy.
That's the only reason I'm doing it. Shit.
Yeah, that's a good point, actually. Like, the Buccaneers suck ass.
Right, but that factor is crazy. Fantastic point.
They just swallow shit. Really didn't factor in the equation.
That's the only point. Everything you said is terrible.
Damn, you bodied Hank with that point. Yeah, it's Purdy versus very Purdy.
Yeah. Fuck.
Like, yes, he played well against the Dolphins, but can he do that for four full quarters? Brock Purdy versus Tom Brady. He's a favorite by more than a field goal.
Hank, you're so stupid. No, again, Hank could win.
Dude, Tom Brady doesn't play defense. Hank just bet on Brock Purdy.
Brock Purdy does. He needs to win by more than four.
Brock Purdy is giving Tom Brady points, and Hank says, yeah, that sounds like a winning prop. Yeah, let me take some Brock Purdy.
a lucrative business Tom Brady by a field goal. Tom Brady still covers.
Oh, man. Oh, man.
Hank, you fucking moron. Actually, can I switch my pick to the Vikings? No, no, no.
No, no. You guys already went back and forth for like an hour.
No, no, no. I'm taking the Vikings.
No, no, no.

We've moved to the next.

I can't switch to Broncos.

PFT switches his stuff all the time.

No, no, no.

Not after we move to the next.

I'll stick out for Billy here.

There's been some late changes, I feel like.

How late?

During the pick segment.

I feel like that's when we usually cut it off.

I mean, we are getting later in this competition.

Ali, just stick with the Jets.

I'll say like if Joe Flacco starts, then I'm betting on the Jets.

If he doesn't, then this is my pick.

If Joe Flacco starts, I'll take the Jets as my underdog.

All right, so you're taking who?

Vikings plus two.

All right, I want to switch my pick to the Jets.

I'm taking the Jets.

Jets plus ten.

I'm off the lines.

I want the Jets.

Is this real?

Yeah, Jets.

Yeah, all right.

So I'm taking the Jets plus ten.

Okay, so Broncos are out and your Ravens are out, correct?

Yes.

Okay, so you're both on the Jets and Billy's on the Vikings.

Those are official changes. Done with underdogs.
Okay, so Vikings. No, wait, wait.
No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no.
No, you already switched. You don't actually like those picks.
No, I love the Jets. Here's why I love the Jets.
It's going to be snowing Buffalo and Vaughn Miller's out. And Mike White's finally in there.
And it's a divisional game. And we'll be able to see Mike White in the snow.
That's true. So what are the official picks? Jets.

No, Billy.

Billy switched his pick.

Billy, you have the Vikings.

Good job, Billy.

We have the Jets.

All right.

Officially, Billy has the Vikings.

PFT and I have the Jets.

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Over.

I've had a long season, not a lot of happiness to be found.

By the time Sunday night rolls around, I'm down bad and despondent.

So for that reason alone, I'm taking the Dolphins Chargers over just so I have something to root for Sunday night.

It does feel like a fun over.

51 and a half.

51 and a half. Me too, Hank.
Let's go. And you know why? Why? I've kind of figured out why the Chargers, when we watched that game against the Raiders and just watching Chargers games, I think the Chargers might be the worst tackling team in the NFL.
They just don't tackle. Like, I feel like every Chargers game, you'll just watch guys just running around, like, broken plays, guys not being able to get tackled.
I think we're going to have some big-time explosive touchdowns in this game. Give it to me.
I like it. It's also weird, the whole dynamic that the Chargers have in terms of their living situation and where the team is.
Right.

Like, they're the second fiddle.

They're basically renting from Stan Kroenke to, like, be able to use his facility.

They don't have an actual place to call their own.

People joke a lot about, like, poverty franchises.

The Chargers are just straight-up poverty franchise.

Yeah.

I'm so sick of them.

I'm sick of the Chargers.

I'm sick of talking about the Chargers. I'm sick of thinking about the Chargers.
I feel bad for Justin Herbert. I think Chargers fans are sick of the Chargers.
Yeah, when you go to SoFi Stadium and you go into your locker room, you know that's not even really your locker room. No, it's not.
And it's also just not like, I think the only thing that can change the Chargers at this point or save them is you got to move them back to San Diego. Yes, please do.
Then they become, they have an identity again. I can like them again.
All that stuff. They're lost.
They're just a beaten down franchise. They've got that song.
Maybe the best song in sports. The San Diego Super Chargers.
San Diego Super Chargers. It's a fucking banger.
It is. Max.
I'm going to take not a fun over Steelers-Ravens. Oh.
36 and a half. Oh.
Max. Is that right? No love lost.
37. You're a masochist, bro.
Throw out the record books, Max. Yeah, I mean, it's disgusting, but that's 37 points.
No love lost. George Pickens is going to get 1,000 touches in this game.
1,000 touchdowns? No, just targets, touches. They have to keep him happy.
Touches as in trying to make one-handed catches and his fingers hit a ball. He's going to get a lot of touches.
Over targets, over receptions, over yards, everything for George Pickens. I actually don't love Pickens because it's going to be Humphrey on him, right? Yeah, but I think you're going to try to force it.
I think you're going to force it to him because he's going to... It's not going to work.
Humphrey's that good that I think he's gone up against every team's number one receiver. I think he's limited...
I forget what the exact stats are, but I think he's the best quarterback in the NFL. Listen, George Pickensens, the way I describe George Pickens, he's not a head case.
I don't think yet. He's a live wire.
If you touch him, you could get electrocuted, but you also get light. He's a live wire.
I think he's passionate. You kind of need that, though, for a star wide receiver.
Here's where you're at with George Pickens right now. When people see him on TV, if there's a former wide receiver in the booth, that wide receiver will be like, yeah, I always thought I was open, too.
They're on Team Pickens, but it could blow up in everybody's face. Yeah, no, people will start saying he plays with an edge, which is great for this team.
You need one guy who's playing with an edge. He's a live wire.
I like live wire because it's not a bad, it's just be careful

because you don't know what could happen with a live wire.

Yep. You don't want to step

over into Mercurial or

Diva. No.
That's close.

And then Headcase is obviously the worst.

PFT, you're over.

My over? I'm going with the Titans-Jaguars.

The vibe I get on this one is just 41. Yeah, there's to be a...
Jaguars are going to score 26 points. Okay.
Okay. I have the over with Hank.
That's going to be fun, Hank. Oh, Sunday night.
That is going to be like... We're going to either be really depressed or...

No.

Up great.

Hungry Dog will have hit by then.

Which two teams?

Well, it was going to be the Panthers.

I have to change it now.

Turf the dog just fucked up our Sunday.

I know.

Did you look up turf?

No, I didn't.

You had three legs.

It was...

I don't know what to do now.

If the Panthers win that game outright, I'll never forgive Turf the dog. He fought so hard.
I'll never forgive Turf the Dog. Billy.
I also like the Browns. I'm taking the Buccaneers 49ers over because I feel like the 49ers are going to be like, we need to take Tom Brady out of the game in late game scenarios and just try to keep scoring, never let off the pedal.
And I think they're going to start. Brock Purdy might actually be able to make better plays than Garoppolo.
Oh, okay. And I think this is like a bait under.
Based on? Because apparently he yells at veterans in practice. Oh.
And one veteran was like – No respect for the troops. Even though he's a freshman.
I mean, even though he's a rookie. Like, he's got command.
I don't know. Yeah, he's got command.
even though he's a freshman. He still got invited to senior night, even though he's a freshman.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 39 points.
Everything Billy talked about goes back to high school or college. That was 37, by the way.
37. By the way, Tom Brady win total.
So preseason win total overs have been 10-0-2 in the last 12 seasons. Undefeated in the last 12 seasons.
If you bet Tom Brady's team win total over, if they lose this game, they lose that. Wow.
What about Brock Purdy win totals? Yet to be determined. TBD.
I just think McCaffrey and Debo just put up a ton of points. All right.
Yeah. And those guys are good.
Those guys are very good. Very good.
Also, I'll look up the stats. Is there a point where we can start saying – I mean, Debo's fun.
I love Debo. Wide back.
I love Debo. Is Ayuk maybe just as good? No.
Ayuk's very good, but he doesn't do everything the same way that Debo does.

He doesn't do everything, but Ayuk's been really good, I feel like, this year. Think about this.
Because Debo's been out for a little bit. Yeah, I know.
And he's been banged up. I think Ayuk's been out.
I would rather have 100% Debo. No, I would agree, but I think Ayuk is good.
I'll put it this way. If Brandon Ayuk was named Debo Samuel, I wouldn't really notice that much of a drop-off.
All I'm saying is everyone's like Chris McCaffrey, George Kittle, Brandon Debo, Debo Samuel. Brandon Ayuk should probably be in that conversation more often as being one of their like, you know, like this team has a ton of stud players.
That's all I'm saying. Give in respect to Brandon Ayuk.
I'm just saying I can see the 49ers scoring at least two touchdowns, the Buccaneers scoring at least two touchdowns, and then just pepper in some field goals in there. Okay.
And that's a push. Okay, good analysis.
Boom. Brandon Ayuk, let me see.
Since our Wi-Fi doesn't work here, I can't look it up on my fucking computer. He's got 56 catches, 698

yards, and 6 touchdowns this year. That's pretty

good. He's having a good year.
He's a

very, very good player. I'm just saying like Debo.

No, I know. I'm mostly afraid that

if I show any disrespect towards Debo

that he'll actually come and murder me. No, it's

Debo's the better player. That's not up

for debate. It's more Brandon Ayuk

is really

fucking good and he's having a really good year as a receiver tip of the cap to brandon iuke yeah okay jake um i'm taking the vikings lions over 52 i completely agree with you what you guys are saying the late finish and tell me that late finish isn't going to be in a 30 to 27 game yep that sounds about right someone's driving to win 33 to 30 you're gonna go Maybe overtime at 30 all maybe like a missed extra point. Both teams out there kind of give off.
But then it's 27 26. Yeah that game I'm feeling points from that game but with the crazy finish that you guys mentioned.
I like it. Okay.
Hank finishes off with unders same logic as last week. It worked under 47 in the Bengals browns i just don't think to sean watson 46 and a half under really uh you've already moved the line yeah it's sharp i swear it was 47 like an hour ago um sean watson not in you know prime form he's still warming his way up gonna be sloppy they didn't score an offensive touchdown.
They scored and covered, but it wasn't because of the offense.

I think it's going to be the same thing this week.

They're going to struggle, but possibly win.

I don't know.

But Charambe night.

Now you've got yourself twisted.

I know, but definitely take the under.

46 and a half.

Okay.

Max.

Cowboys, Texans.

I don't see a scenario where the Texans score more than 10 points.

Yeah, Texans. What's their plus? Plus 950.
That's just, you just have to.

The Hungry Horns.

You would do that too.

You'd be like Texans and.

Browns.

Yeah, or like Vikings.

And it would be like Texans would win and the Vikings would lose.

Like, why didn't you just bet the Texans?

It's a parlay.

It's a Hungry Dog parlay.

It's true.

That is good counterpoint. Fact or fact? Fact.
Fact. Okay, PFT.
My under is going to be the Chiefs-Broncos. Yep.
44, I believe, is what I had. Yeah, 44.
Free money. Free money on that one.
I just, again, goes back to the Broncos didn't play their starters in the preseason, not going to score any points. And I feel like this could actually just be like 17-0 is what I have it as.

I originally had this over similar to Big Cat and the Bucs.

I'm betting the Broncos over until it hits.

Broncos unders are 11-1 on the season.

Pretty good. The only game that went over was the Raiders overtime game.

I can't remember.

Maybe week four, five, where there was a touchdown in overtime.

But, yeah, they have – and this is the highest it's been in a while. It's usually in the 30s.
It's at 44. They just play under ball.
Yep. Because their defense is good and their offense stinks.
PFT, do we have three out of four? Yeah, three are the same. Maybe next week start to write it on paper.
Nah, we're still – Well, also three out of four because we both – Yeah, the chat. We hopped on Billy.
Well, he turfed on me and then Billy did that. and then we start to write it on paper? Nah, we're still...
Also three out of four because we both... We hopped on Billy.

He turfed on me and then Billy did that.

If this is last week, you guys are neck and neck for that second place punishment.

So which one do we have different?

You're over.

PFT has Jacksonville, Tennessee.

Big Cat has Miami.

Why would we collude for one of us to have to do it?

That's a question you have to ask yourself.

I think you know what collusion means.

No collusion.

There was collusion to be fading each other.

No collusion.

That's what they want you to think.

I think.

I don't know.

All right.

Go with your under, Billy.

I'm going with the Dolphins Chargers under.

Sorry.

I took it before.

Just can go with it.

I had a riddown before.

Okay.

Collusion. So 51 and a half there, and I'm with you guys on chiefs broncos under 40 okay that was a fun that was a fun preview of all the games let's see do we miss any games spirited debate uh we didn't because there's not that many games uh let's just do real quick i was gonna say technically no one picked panther seahawks but we talked, we talked about it.
Because you guys have the Jets. And this is also the easiest television week we've had.
There's only seven 1 o'clock games, and Texans-Cowboys is not going to be on. See ya.
So what's the spread on that right now? 17 and a half. I almost want to.
No, don't. I want to bet.
I'm not going to take this in our competition, but I'm going to bet on the Texans. That's a lot of points.

So I was looking it up earlier.

These guys get paid to play football team. The number one spread, it varied from 26.5 to 28, was Broncos-Jaguars 2013 week 6.

That was Peyton's peak year where they put up so many points,

and the Jaguars were winless entering that game.

Blaine Gabbert?

Maybe.

Seems like a Blaine line to me.

Yeah, but PFT, you mentioned Patriots undefeated season was a lot of the top lines, too. Yeah.
Biggest spreads. Every week.
Every week that season, the Patriots were, like, 18, 17-point favorites. Week 12 that year was 25.
Oh, what? The 2007? 2007, yeah. There was a stretch in the NFL where it was old head shit, like, 2004, 5,-6 every week you just tease the Colts and the Patriots and you won every week.
Yeah. You just tease them down every week.
Good old days. And it was just winner every week.
Okay. By the way are the Cowboys going to win the Super Bowl? Okay.
I've started to think about that. This is the time last year you did.
I know. It pissed me off a lot.
It pissed me off a lot. I think that the Dallas Cowboys might win the Super Bowl this year.
Okay, so I have a counterpoint, but I want to hear Max's. That fucking stinks.
Okay, so that was good. And then my other counterpoint is just close your eyes.
Everyone close your eyes. Close your eyes.
Okay. It's late January.
It is 22 degrees. We're at the link.
I know what you're about to say. The crowd is going crazy.
It's four minutes left in the third quarter. He looks pretty fat.
They zoom in. Mike McCarthy could not look fat.
He looks pretty fat. And he's confused.
And you know when you are out in the cold and you start to get a little confusion? Like, is this hypothermia? Yeah. That's all.
I'm like, that's just the one thing that it's like when everyone's like, hey, are the Cowboys? Because they are very, very good. I'm just like, Mike McCarthy's fat brain.
He looks pretty fat. Now, counterpoint, Jerry Jones has made it pretty clear that he wants to win another Super Bowl before he dies.
Oh, okay. Which makes me truly believe that the second they win a Super Bowl, he's going to die that offseason.
I think Jerry Jones is ready to die. He's ready to go.
I honestly think that he's made peace. No chance.
Dude, Jerry Jones is walking around all day saying things that somebody that wants to die would say. Rich people never want to die.
You don't write a check twice a month to Mike McCarthy and not want to die afterwards. He wants to live forever.
He is ready to die, and I'm telling you, I think he might will this team to win a Super Bowl so that he can finally just pass away. All right.
I'm just considering it. Okay.
I mean, they're good.

They're very good. And I'd be very mad because

I did that big future last year, and

Michael Gall tore his ACL,

and then Jerry Jones, or

sorry, Mike McCarthy ran

a run play. Was that a run

play at the end of the game? Well, there was 13

seconds left in the game, and he did a quarterback

draw, right? And they weren't able to spot the ball.

Yeah, so that would bother me.

But you see other NFC teams, besides

the Eagles, no disrespect to you, Max, but

I'm going to go. seconds left in the game and he did a quarterback draw and they weren't able to spot the ball yeah so that would bother me but you see other nfc teams besides the eagles no disrespect to you max but other nfc teams seem to all have a big glaring weakness in them well it's wide open if you want to talk at the bar with people this this month nfc's wide open you know who can fit through a pretty wide hole yeah mike mccarthy big fat mike mcc.
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Yo, yo, what up? What up you fuck? Hello. It's name.
My name is Ronnie Noki. Ronnie Noki.
What it do? What it do? What it do, brother? My stardom is the merchant of death. Oh, you took mine.
That's mine. Bit of a Deshaun Watson situation, but if you're in a dynasty murder league and you like value, he's a guy you got to pick up.
He's a guy you got to look at. We got fleeced.
We got fleeced. We got gotta send Howie overseas next.
Howie. It would never happen to him.
He'd come back with picks. It's actually me, Victor.
My sit-um is Lionel Messi. Lionel? Shut up, guys.
This is the time of the year. Talking about Jeffrey Thomas' dad? He's due for a choke in the fucking World Cup.
He's not my goat. You don't know shit about shit.
He's going to put up a big fat goose egg in there going down. You don't know shit about shit.
This is in tribute to a touching favorite friend. Diego Maradona passed away two years ago.
We're wearing the jerseys with the white lines on him just for him. And my sleeper is Blake Griffin.
Blake of the year. Sixth man of the year.

I'm starting the campaign.

Let's get it going.

He's been awesome.

He's been unbelievable.

Celtics are the best team in the entire NBA.

They just smoked the Suns.

Blake's playing a pivotal role.

It's beautiful to see.

He's sixth man of the year.

Let's get it going.

Let's help our guy out.

But wait, hey, did he just start the other night?

Yeah, but he's playing.

That's the role he's playing.

I don't think he's going to win MVP, so let's get him the six man. Let's get him some hardware.
Hardware. Hell yeah.
Yeah, fuck yeah. I don't think you guys are into that.
What the fuck? No, I love it. You don't care about Blake? I like it.
You don't love Blake? I bet I will be Blake in here. Hey, Blake, I have the way.
Hell yes. What's up, you dickheads? It's Tommy Tortorelli.
This week, I'm starting I'm starting Christmas trees Yeah that's right It's that time of year again Every corner's got a Christmas tree stand on it Take my advice Tell them Tommy sent you Get the Fraser Fir That's the Cadillac of Christmas trees The best Christmas tree there's ever been There's no improving on the Fraser Fir You come home with the the douglas for i send it back fuck yeah send it back bitch i'm sitting jason garrett jason garrett old stand there and clap little red-headed ginger nightmare getting the interview out stanford university uh the ivy league of the bay area oh you're bum he's a bum he's a he's a He's always been a bum. He was a bum when he was a coach.

He was a bum when he was a player.

Now they're trying to get him out coaching college football.

He's a bum.

B-U-M.

He's a bum.

What's the?

Go ahead.

You got one more.

He's a bum.

He's a bum.

He's a bum.

B-U-M.

B-U-M.

My sleeper, it was going to be the merchant of death.

The god of death.

Great value.

Yeah, fuck that guy.

Guy's a piece of shit. We got fleeced.
Fuck them picks. That's what Joe Biden said.
Yeah. All right, what's up, fucks? It's Tony Baloney.
Back at it. My Sodom is rough and rowdy.
Rough and rowdy. Providence, Rhode Island.
Tonight, 8 p.m. Gonna be sick.
Heard someone singing the national anthem. We're gonna have Pac-Man Jones versus Bobby Lang.
Grace O'Malley versus who gives a fuck? She's going to bury that bitch. It's going to be great.
Check it out. Fights all night long.
My sit-em is... Fuck, I forgot my sit-em.
It was in my brain. I already forgot it.
Oh, the fucks who take the under in Army-Navy. I'm taking the over.
It's my personal challenge, bet of the year. I've lost it 15 years in a row.
Over 32 and a half. Army Navy.
Do it. I still think they should wait to announce the top four teams until after this game.
Yeah. Because you never know.
You never know. My sleeper is Turf the Dog.
I hope that you lay easy and we're going to, out of respect, we're not going to bet the Panthers. I hope if you happen to to see if you check out Turf the Dog's Twitter profile where he wrote essentially a note zap for dying it's a picture of him like in the turf it's pretty spooky this dog's really dead hey what's up guys it's Victor Belt I'm free.
You're not up to any of your old tricks, are you?

No, no, no more Merchant of Death.

But yes, my stardom is

AK47s. Yes, bestseller

everywhere. Bestseller.

No more sell anymore, but back in the day

bestseller. That's a good guy.

My sit-em, Geneva Convention, always

gets in the way of business. Never

liked it, never will.

And my sleeper is women's basketball in America. Turns out very, very popular.
I like it. I like it.
I like that they value it so much. Thank you for freedom.
Yes. It is kind of crazy.
I feel bad for Brittany Griner that the headlines are she got traded for the merchant of death. What a terrible nickname for somebody to be exchanged for.
I'm always going to put that through like the trade value chart and be like merchant of death. You needed at least like five more names and cash considerations.
Yes. It is all time like you got fleeced.
Yeah, it's a fleece. It's a fleece movie.
I'm glad Brittany Griner is coming back home. Good for her.
Good for her family. But you can't get traded for a guy named the Merchant of Death I know, I know I did see one reply, this is a very Billy Football type thing to say I saw a Twitter reply And the guy was like They hand out nicknames like Merchant of Death All over the place in Russia There's like a million of those So I was like, oh okay I just took it as fact That's as fact.
I was like, yeah, great. That's great reconnaissance.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is great.
They're like, dude, every guy who deals like one pistol is the merchant. I saw a reply that said, you can't trade a shooter for a big in today's game.
That was a good one, too. Yeah, that is pretty good.
I know that a lot of people are making jokes, but I did hear it might help in future exchanges. Oh, really? Like, we might get future picks.
Oh! Like a player to be named later? Yeah, like just... Just out of the goodness of Putin's heart? I would have...
Putin's got the Jimmy Johnson draft grade value in front of him? Like, it just might have been for the optics to make Russia look like they fleeced the U.S. Could we just...
Hypothetically, could we send anybody over in that exchange, or would it have to be a prisoner? I think it's a prisoner. Could we give them El Chapo? Oh.
Like, we'll include El Chapo. They'd have way too much fun.
Yeah, or just, like, give them Russell Wilson. Yeah.
Just like, you also get this citizen. I would have liked it to be a two-for-one.
Yeah, that'd be nice. Just to make us feel like we fleeced them.
Marine dude. Like, hey, we got a couple.
Now we have a couple positions we can fill. Yeah.
You know? Whatever. Okay.
Yeah, that'd be nice. Just to make us feel like we've leased them.
Marine dude. Like, hey, we got a couple.
Now we have a couple positions we can fill.

Yeah.

You know, whatever.

Okay.

Yeah, bye, Ruffin Rowdy.

Providence, 8 p.m.

What were you going to say?

Rushmore, too.

Oh, Mount Rushmore.

All right, let's go, boys.

We were very unlucky last week.

Yep.

Kenneth Walker got hurt.

We were cruising along.

He even had like a 35-yard run to start the game. We were fucked.
So we got fucked. What do we want to do this week, boys? We got to win.
We haven't won in a couple weeks. Let's win.
I'm going to go Christian McCaffrey. Tony Pollard's easy.
Okay, so I was thinking about that, Big Cat. What if we did both Pollard and Elliott? Tony Pollard, Zeke Elliott.
Both of them in there. Yep.
Yep. I kind of like that.
I think the odds will probably be better. Yeah, I kind of like that a lot.
Yep. King Henry.
Derrick Henry. Okay, and then what was yours, Tank? McCaffrey.
McCaffrey. Derrick Henry.
I think, is the Bucs rush defense good? It's Chris McCaffrey. Oh, okay, yeah, no problem.
You're right. You have to look at Debo, too.
Okay. Yeah, you're right.
And Brandon Ayuk. Yeah, we got it.
And Juice. We're good.
He's going to run a lot. He's not going to be passing.
He's going to be all rush on. Hank's just mad at Billy for pointing out.
He had 66 last week. Tom Brady.
McCaffrey. 66 last week, but he's in the 30 in the three games before.
What? Wait, is 66 more than 50? What was the three games before? So since he's been with the 49ers, 38, 94, 38, 39, 32, 66. So it's basically 50%.
Two for six. All right, let's go.
Let's ride. It's right there.
It's Mount Rushmore. Let's ride.
That should be a good odds one, too. Let's all get in this together.
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And now, here's Alex Bregman. Okay, we now welcome on recurring guest, friend of the program, World Series champion.
He already was a World Series champion, but now he's a two-time World Series champion. It is Alex Bregman from the Houston Astros.
Thanks for coming on, dude. Congratulations.
Belated congratulations. I would hope that the glow, has the glow subsided? Are you already like, oh, next year.
We've got to be ready for next year. Are you enjoying the fact that you won the championship again? I think we've kind of, we're ready for next year, to be honest with you.
All the guys are fired up. We were just all in there today working out, talking about next year and how we feel like we got another good chance to do it again.
For the most part, I think we've moved on, but we're still celebrating off and on together this weekend. We're actually going to Vegas to celebrate a little bit.
So the guys are out. All right.
I was curious, like if you go on a deep postseason run, doesn't it kind of stink a little bit like you don't really get that much of an offseason? How much time do you get not just away from baseball, but just away from working out and doing all that dumb stuff and get to just hang just hang out no you're right uh the last honestly six years we've gone pretty deep into the postseason so we've probably missed out on a month month and a half um but this year was different because the lockout it pushed everything back so we we pretty much played until almost thanksgiving so there was really no downtime maybe two weeks this year we popped up up to Nashville for the CMAs, Kentucky, to go see a few of our horses, and then it was back to the gym. Oh, wait, where were your horses running? Oh, actually, yeah, now my memory is refreshed.
You banged me, Alex. What happened? You texted Dave a pick for the breeders.ers I was there I think you were on the plane in between in between uh games and you're like hey I like this horse here and it sucked oh dude honestly the the uh the horse the whole horse racing uh business has been awesome to be honest with you we got we have 14 horses now we uh have some in kentucky some in florida but the breeders cup was incredible i saw you guys were there and having a blast and you know that's my bad i i uh i honestly was just uh i was fired up to just watch flight line to be honest with you that was incredible best best horse ever maybe ever and yeah no i i that I'm thinking about it, that sucked because when you send a text to someone being like, hey, this horse, you know horses, obviously, we all were like, oh, okay, Bregman liked this horse.
Like, fuck, all right. And then, yeah, so we weren't having fun after that race.
Yeah, no, it's tough. It's honestly a game of failure.
Yeah. Oh, it's crazy's crazy so wait is you own 14 horses what's the um do you have any that are like gonna be in some big time races who do you own them with i think so hopefully uh hopefully this next year we can we can have one running some some big time races uh well this is our first crop so we'll have our this will be will be our first year at three year olds.
And that's when the whole derby circuit goes on. So, um, we have one that's out in California right now.
He's unraced, but we think that he is, uh, the real deal. So, uh, hopefully we'll be, uh, we'll be watching him run on the first Saturday in May in Kentucky, but his name's golden sombreroball means four strikeouts.
I know you guys know that. So four strikeouts in baseball, not really a good thing.
So we went with the reverse psychology. Hopefully it'll win the triple crown in the Breeders' Cup.
That's a great horse name. You should have told me the horse's name because now I'm going to bet on it and it's going to lose.
So that horse is done. Just put it out to pasture.
That horse has no future. Well, we we got a few more hopefully they can win we got yeah don't tell me those names i like how your your your surefire horse is one that has literally never raced yet but you're like trust me this guy he looks fast i'm telling you we've had a we've had a few that have won so far um but uh this guy's the deal.
Okay, so we also got to mention you have a new beef jerky line, right? So, breggy bombs, salsa, and BBQ sauce. So, what – I mean, I love beef jerky.
You haven't sent us any. That's a bad job on your part.
But tell me about the beef jerky because I do love beef jerky. And why did you get – like you like beef jerky is my thing well this is different kind of beef jerky i feel like this is this is like i don't even i don't like beef jerky but i like this beef jerky this is uh some of the best stuff you'll ever find i think it's the best beef jerky around it's wagyu it's uh honestly it doesn't have when i growing up i don't i don't, I'm like, I smell beef jerky.
I'm like, oh, I get that out of the car. But this stuff is like elite, high quality beef jerky.
It's awesome. We got barbecue sauces, rubs.
We started with salsas a while back. But I think the barbecue and the beef jerky is like that elite level to where it's not just a fun thing to do.
This is like stuff that people go buy and try and keep buying because it's awesome. It's the best you can find.
Our barbecue team actually finished third at the cook-off in Nationals. So we got third place in the nation at the largest cook-off in Kansas City.
So it's been pretty fun to do and I'm definitely going to send you guys some jerky, some sauces, some rubs. And I'm going to send somebody this glove that I wore all year during practice, signing everything, to whoever goes onto our website, reggiebomb.com, and orders some sauces and rubs here before Christmas.
I'm going to pick somebody random, send it out out to them and uh yeah thank you guys for uh shouting us out on the show that's awesome breggy bomb.com go check it out i do i do love beef jerky and biltong as well like the south african beef jerky that's that sounds like it's like what you're doing like a more tender beef jerky you got beef jerky you got barbecue how much i mean it sounds like basically like the astros history which is like just get guys whose last names start with letter b and they'll do really well you're just you're just heavily invested in any food product that starts with a b yeah yep barbecue beef jerky i guess you could go barbecue rubs um but yeah it's uh it's uh it's been fun to start and fun to do and i guarantee y'all y'all will like it so so we got a couple important things we got to get to here the first one our producer max is a diehard phillies fan um just walk me through game three when you guys let up like a billion bombs max thought it was over he thought the phillies had won the world series it was over he was yelling said everywhere did you guys let up like a billion bombs, Max thought it was over. He thought the Phillies had won the world series.

It was over.

He was yelling said everywhere.

Did you guys like,

I thought that was the most impressive part about your team this year.

It's like,

you guys are just nails.

Like when,

when the,

when the going gets tough,

like unflappable,

you know,

that,

that didn't even bother you.

Went out and won,

you know,

those games in Philly after.

So tell Max,

like,

was he stupid to even think that,

that,

that this world series is over?

I'm going to be right back. That didn't even bother you.
You went out and won those games in Philly after. So tell Max, was he stupid to even think that the World Series is over after Game 3? Because he had raised the banner.
He was like, that was the best day of my life. It was over.
It was over. I still think that we should win this series.
So we were in kind of a similar situation. We went to Washington and uh won three in a row we came home in 19 with with two with two games and one to win to win the series and we were like oh we're going home we're going to do this and um they had elite pitching Max Scherzer, Steven Strasburg, two locked down dudes and um I think one of the things that made our team be able to bounce back so quickly after a loss this year was how good the pitching staff was.
You had Christian Javier go out the next night and throw six no-hit innings. Our bullpen was incredible during the postseason.
Presley and Abreu, I think, combined 19 scoreless innings. It was one of the best runs of a bullpen I've ever seen in playoff baseball.
And we knew that every single night, one of our starters could give us a chance to win a game. And when you get down, when you lose game one, the way we lost game one, that was tough to bounce back from.
And then Framberg came and pitched really well. And then we lost game three.
And Javier gave us a huge start. And then once JV got us game five, going back home, we were like, we need to finish the job here this time.
We can't let it get to a game seven like we had in 2019 and go there. So it was good to win that game.
And Alvarez's home run was insane dude i've never so so insane was was game four a no hitter because uh max thinks it's not a no hitter definitely uh definitely a no hitter uh they got no hits combined fake ass no hitter it doesn't count hey they if they would have thrown a combined one he knows he would have been like oh no hitter Yeah well he was

After he was like it wasn't a no hitter

And PFT and I were just like well did

You get any hits he's like no

But it's different

I mean

A combined no hitter doesn't have the same

I feel like you still don't understand the fact that there were zero hits

Zero hits you got zero hits

Do you want me to pull up the box score again

I get it

But like the Doc Holliday playoff no-hitter is different than that. It's pretty crazy.
Javier threw another combined no-hitter earlier in the year at Yankee Stadium. So that was the second one of the year.
And I mean, the sky's the limit for that. He didn't throw the no-hitter.
The team did. Alex, you brought up the World Series against the Nationals.
Do you remember when Juan Soto hit that ball and it's probably still up on the railroad track out in left field? Oh, I remember it. I remember it.
I can't not forget it. I hit a homer and carried my bat like an idiot.
Then he hit a homer and was like, hey, I'm going to carry mine too. I still remember that.
It still goes through my head and my nightmares all the time.

That was a great moment in postseason history

because people got mad at you for carrying your bat.

They're like, look at this asshole.

And then right afterwards, Juan Soto did it,

and he carried his bat farther than you.

And then everybody was like, okay, this is fun now.

They're not taking it too seriously.

They're not trying to fight each other.

It's just guys having fun just mashing taters.

That was an awesome postseason for me particularly because i'm a gnats fan but that uh that that showed me like okay it can be fun to pimp home runs sometimes it's not always like some guy coming out another guy's throat yeah i don't i it was i don't think either were meant to show anybody and show anybody up it was more so just having fun fun, trying to have fun playing the game that we love in the postseason. But he definitely got the upper hand on me on that one.
Yeah, yeah. That ball is still going.
So I was curious because one of my favorite parts of the World Series this year was when Kyle Schwarber stole second base and everybody in America got a taco. Was there like a small part of you watching Schwarber steal second and you were like, okay, that was pretty cool.
No, yeah, for sure. That was dope.
And it's like a guy that is not like, he's like a sneaky stolen base threat too. Like he's a, he's a smart ball player.
So he could, he can like pick pitches to go. And like, if, if people were thinking about who was going to steal the base, it definitely would have been like you would have thought like maybe kyle tucker or somebody like that who's gotten a ton of bags all year um when schwarber stole it was pretty cool what what about when i mean i love schwarber i'm a cubs fan and he's just my favorite even though he's been like five different places since he's there any yeah is there any uh when you're on the field and he hits a home run like is there any part of you obviously it sucks because you're playing against him, but is there any, yeah, is there any, uh, when you're on the field and he hits a home run, like, is there any part of you, obviously it sucks cause you're playing against him, but is there any part of you like, Holy fuck, that was sick.
No, a hundred percent. I honestly, even watching it on TV, it's pretty bad-ass.
The one that I saw him hitting, uh, the one I saw him hitting San Diego, that ball is the furthest ball I've ever seen hitting in a, in a baseball stadium in the big leagues I don't I've played in San Diego multiple times I don't know if I've ever seen a ball even come close to going that far so um I actually played with short uh and team USA in college he's awesome dude he's he's awesome yeah yeah he's like everything you'd expect to be uh just watching him play baseball, that's his personality. Like just a guy's guy who just likes to fucking mash taters.
Hit bombs and have fun, have a good time. Yeah, win.
All right. Other big important thing that we need to discuss.
Steven Shea, you're Fantasy Football Commissioner. So you are part of the Fantasy football league that for everyone who doesn't remember the famous, uh, Jock Peterson, uh, who was it? Tommy Pham.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Were you part of, were you part of the league then? I was, I won it that year.
Okay. So tell us from your perspective, was there, was there anything that was done, uh, that was uncouth in terms of fantasy football like rules and standards between the two of them that that led to that moment did you feel like did you think it would ever lead to a slapping in center field so so i wasn't really uh i wasn't really paying attention that much to what was going on on people's benches i'm the guy in the fantasy that, that like hits the trade button 24 seven and tries to send a bunch of trades.
Um, I think I actually pissed off Portnoy with how many trades I've sent him this year. Um, but I, I don't know.
I don't know that I didn't read the rules. I was more worried about the four point quarterback touchdown and six point quarterback touchdown because I drafted, uh, all running backs and I drafted my quarterback in the 13th round that year so I was like I I don't want you guys to change the rules mid mid season now I don't know can't tell you but I do know that Che he's doing an okay job I'm giving him I'm giving him a b plus you so tell me your perspective of Che because I don't know.
I work very closely with Che. I'm kind of his mentor, for better or worse.
He actually treats me like I'm his father sometimes. If he has an emergency at his house, he'll call me, and I'm like, what do you want me to do, dude? So I know his brain very well.
I'm very interested what everyone in the group chat, because Che doesn't even know, he doesn't know,

he didn't know who Mike Trout was.

He doesn't know anything about baseball. He

only watches football. Like,

what is your, like, just

reaction to how he operates

and just how his brain works?

No, he's been great. He's

on top of it 24-7.

I feel like he is, like, the most

on top of being the commissioner

of any commissioner-7. I feel like he is like the most on top of being the commissioner of any commissioner we've ever had.
He's been awesome. I think he kind of screwed me up this year.
I was in first place last year, ran away with it. And this year he told me that my strategy of drafting all running backs to start was terrible.
I needed to draft all receivers, take one running back.

So I blame him for the reason why I'm 1-12 right now.

That's tough.

And I can't score over 100 points a week.

That's tough.

You're 1-12?

How is that possible?

I'm a donation.

I'm a donation is what I am.

Have you reached the point this season where you just gave up

and are you still setting your lineups?

I'm setting my lineup just because I don't want to let Marisnick beat me

or let Trout get me, but it's been bad.

It's been bad.

Well, they still got you.

Yeah, they still 1-12.

1-12 is hard to do.

So when you saw the incident go down, when the slap happened,

were you immediately did you

understand like this is definitely because of that gift that he sent in the group chat i didn't know at first but then uh quickly like i found out yeah i found out i was like oh my gosh would you say that gift was over the line or was it like fair fair play when it comes to smack talk I don't know.

I think it's fair.

I think when you comes to smack talk? I don't know. I think it was fair.
I think like when you're talking smack, the boys, it's all fair play. Yeah, it's a gif.
Yeah, what's the weirdest thing that Stephen Shea has done in the text group like where he does think he's one of the boys? Because it's just such a funny thing to think of this guy who works at Barstool, who just recently became full-time content, is on a text chain with some of the best baseball players in the world, and he doesn't know who the hell you guys are, and he's probably texting you guys being like, remember to waiver wires this time, and remember to set your lineups and all that stuff. Has done anything everyone's like who the hell is this guy

oh bro he's been he's uh he's on top of it he's texting waivers are set this at this time trade deadlines now make sure you get your trade final trades in as soon as i send a trade and it's accepted he called he'll send a fate we'll do a facetime call with me and that guy making sure that we're not doing anything wrong.

Like, say it all.

Like, it's crazy.

Like... He'll do a FaceTime call with me and that guy making sure that we're not doing anything wrong.
Like, say, oh, like, it's crazy. Like, he is like the most on top of his job I've ever seen of a commissioner.
And he'll blow up anybody in the chat, too. He'll tell anybody what's going on.
Yeah. So who's in first place in the league right now? Well, Will Myers.
Will Myers has solidified the – I think he's solidified the one seed. Marisnyk's calling me, telling me that I need to make sure I beat Moustakis this week so he can get a first-round buy.
But, no, it's been a lot different. This is my first year not making the playoffs in the league.
We've been doing this for a few years now. There's got to be a punishment, right, for last place?

Well, there was last year, but this year, I guess they didn't do a punishment. I guess I lucked out.
I don't know. My family league, you've got to go take the ACT if you come in last.
That's like... Yeah, there's got to be some sort of punishment moving forward.
You should get a tattoo. Yeah.
It should be a tattoo.

You should get a tattoo.

And then if you try to rip your shirt off, you should be like,

no, I got a new tattoo.

I have a tattoo of Shea right here.

Yeah.

Oh, my God.

I would rather die.

I would rather die.

What are your thoughts on LSU football this year?

It's kind of a weird year. It was like roller coaster where it started bad and then it got really really good ended kind of bad because I know you're a diehard LSU guy like is there a small party that maybe misses Coach O because we do just a small part I like Coach O a lot um but uh I think Kelly's done an unbelievable, to be honest with you.
I think that team was – everyone was saying, oh, they're going to win one game. I think they polled the SEC reporters and said, hey, LSU's going to finish last in the West.
But just to – I think if you beat – honestly, when you beat Bama in a season,

it's a successful season.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's true.

LSU is – it strikes me as like one of the top five baseball schools

in the country too.

And there's a lot of places that don't really celebrate college baseball

that much.

It's not a focus.

Where would you put like LSU amongst all the other places that you've played

in college baseball?

I mean, it's number one for me. It's crazy.
I feel like if you play baseball at LSU, you're treated just unbelievably well. They have one of the – this year's team, I was talking to somebody who's a scout in the region, and they said this year's LSU baseball team is the most talented team they've ever seen on a college baseball field.
So, I mean, those guys are treated like royalty there, and it's awesome. There's no professional baseball team there.
So, I think Louisiana is kind of like split halfway down the middle, like Braves fans and Strohs fans. But everyone in Louisiana is LSU fans.

Yeah.

I always love to ask this question.

Who's the hardest pitcher to face right now?

Oh, that's tough.

Toughest guy I think to face is probably Leziga from the Yankees.

That is elite stuff. I mean, he's really, really good.
Wheeler was unbelievable in the World Series. Wheeler throws two different types of fastballs, this four-seamer that kind of just explodes out of his hand and the two-seamer that gets all the way to the plate and then takes off in on your hand so um those two guys were two of the guys that stood out during the postseason um i don't know there's some i mean everyone has such elite stuff now everyone's throwing 99 with 20 inches of run or 20 inches of vertical uh hop on their fastball so um there's a lot of guys but Those are the two guys I feel like were the toughest to hit this postseason for me.
So knowing everyone throws that hard, does it fuck you up when, like, you face a guy – I don't know if you've – I think you've faced Kyle Hendricks, maybe not, but, like, someone like him who's throwing in the 80s. Like, is that now almost an advantage for the guys who have great command and throw in the 80s when you see all you're seeing is like 100 mile an hour fastballs all week and then you get a guy starting who's throwing 15 miles an hour slower? Is that it doesn't mess up your eye or is it like, oh, this is nice.
I get a break. I think it's a little bit of both, but certainly the guys that can put it where they want it are way tougher to hit than guys that kind of just spray the zone.
So facing a guy like Kyle Hendricks or maybe Tommy Malone from Seattle who has a really good change up. Guys like that are tough, especially after you've seen someone throwing 100.
And then right after you face you go back to facing somebody throwing 100 so it kind of messes a little bit with with your timing so um yeah i don't know i think i think guys you can put it where they want it are the toughest ones to hit the game yeah what about a knuckleballer oh i think i'm like oh for four off knuckleballers i I faced R.A. Dickey a few times when I came into the league,

and it wasn't pretty.

It's your kryptonite. I've heard that in high humidity situations,

which would make sense in Houston,

that the knuckleball knuckles a little bit more.

Like weather has a big impact on it.

Probably, just because I feel like knuckleball guys

don't want any rotation on the baseball.

So I feel like Houston places at sea level, like you said. But yeah, it's definitely my kryptonite.
Yeah. So Dusty Baker, I feel like we're all rooting for Dusty.
Even if you're not an Astros fan, you wanted to see Dusty get a World Series. Max is shaking his head.
Max, you're a grump, dude. Dusty Baker, he's a legend uh i loved his dugout look with a toothpick and and the black gloves on what was dusty like after you guys won was was he crying was uh what was the mood like around him dusty was ready to ready to party he was he was fired up he was ready to go into the clubhouse pop some champagne um and have a good time um i think honestly it was uh it was so cool to have to be on the team that had him win his first one um he has been unbelievable he's won so many games in the big leagues won so many playoff games and um honestly i was so fired up for dusty he's a.
Great guy. Yeah, that was a very cool moment.

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Now, I'm not a creep. Dad to dad.
I have two kids. You just had a child, but we are gamblers.
I looked it up. So I think your child was born August 2nd.
You hit first okay you hit 390 the five games afterwards your your average this year was 259 we always talk about the the baby bump when when when a player any sport has a baby they start to perform well for a little period of time after is that real like it clearly shows in clearly shows in your stats. I looked it up.
Five games after you hit 390, average this year was 259. What happened there? Tell us so that we can now, because we've been using it anecdotally, tell us the science behind it.
Honestly, I think for me, when Reagan and I had Knox, he kind of put things into perspective for us, told us what really mattered in the world. And it was really cool.
It was an awesome experience to be able to have your first child. And I feel like it just kind of mentally, you don't care if you go to the ballpark and go over four after the game because you're going home to your son.
So you leave it all out in the field and then you're able to flush things a lot easier. So for me, I think it just simplified life, simplified what's really important in the world to me and what I care about and what makes me go.
So I don't know. I think he definitely had a big impact on that

five games, the second half of the season,

the playoffs, and hopefully

the next 12

years of his career.

You've got to have another kid.

You've got to have one every single season.

That's how it's got to work.

I told Reagan, I said, let's go.

Let's start getting them rolling.

Did you know that you played a little well? like a little bit better after? Oh, yeah. Oh, okay.
It was a good second half of the season and postseason. I think probably my best postseason of my career.
So it was awesome, and it was awesome to have him there, come to Seattle, come to New York, go to Philly, come down on the field, take photos with him. It was – I mean, I'll remember it for the rest of my life.
And I'll remember it for the rest of his life too. I got to imagine that also just like all your teammates are pumped for you, right? You're in a good environment because they're excited that you had a kid.
They're like, great job having sex. Oh, everybody's fired up.
Yeah. Yeah.
My last, last question, the Seattle game this year, 18 innings. You were bored as shit by the end of it, right? That was boring.
Was it boring for you? It was boring for us. To play in an 18-inning scoreless game? Dude dude honestly it was like uh shoot what is it was like watching uh watching something on tv that like just never ends and you're like you know like your eyes are getting like bloodshot from just watching the tv screen forever it was like is anyone gonna score here like let's go let's get this let's get let's get some runs on the board um but uh that's what happens when you got probably two of the best pitching staffs in the game going at it.
So I was pumped. I was locked in the whole time.
I was trying to – we didn't want to go on to game four. We wanted to win it game three.
Yeah, so you guys are like taking it seriously. There wasn't like a lot of joking around keeping people loose because me personally, I don't think I'd be able to be focused for that long on such a boring game what would you be doing I was watching football I had you on the different screen I had you on the bottom screen yeah I'd probably just go in the clubhouse and crack a beer after 12 innings did you how many how many innings were you like this is the inning because that would be that would be my downfall because I'm like I'm the optimist like gambler where it's like yep this is our inning and you go in the clubhouse you're like guys this is the inning and it doesn't happen did you have to stop doing that oh bro every inning that we got a guy on base we're like all right we're gonna win it right here and then it'd be like all right let's go play defense and then they'd get three they get they'd load the bases up and we'd get out of the inning somehow and all right this is the this is the inning.
Did you feel bad at all for the city of Seattle for what you did to them in that game? Was there like a small little piece of you that's like, they seem like nice fans. They've been through a lot.
Like, yeah, I wanted to win, but also like that sucks for them. It was – well, it went two games long.
So the fans that were at the ballpark got to watch two baseball games worth 18 innings so I don't know I don't know if I felt bad or I don't know really what I felt I just knew that it was pretty loud in there for Knox I was trying to make sure that his baby headphones stayed on throughout the whole game, and he was good.

All right, well, thanks so much, man.

We really appreciate it.

Best of luck.

And, yeah, we're excited to try the jerky.

So have a great offseason, and we'll hopefully see you soon.

Sounds good.

I'll send you guys some.

Thanks, guys. Bye.

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That's skrill.com slash barstool, sign up for free. And now here's Max Duggan.gan and now for something completely different all right we now welcome on a very special guest uh soon to be recurring guest because i think he's an awl i think he listens to this show it is heisman finalist max duggan from tcu also his team is in the college football playoffs which i'm very excited for Max thank you for joining us we appreciate it um let's start with the Heisman so what 48 hours away yep are you gonna win I don't know whatever whatever the voters think yeah but is there a part of you that's like because I feel like you can kind of tell and like Caleb's got a lot of pub but i you might be the guy who's like hey maybe let's do it i mean caleb's had a pretty legit season like cj i know a lot of people like don't talk like played pretty legit too like he's had a great season stetson doesn't get like the talk i don't think that he probably deserves right that like oh you know he just plays on a good team like if you like watch his like, watch his games, like, that dude could play.
Yeah. He can ball.
He's very good. But you went 11-1.
And you also beat every team on your schedule. Hey, if it happens, it happens.
Let me ask you this. If you had to vote, who would you vote for? Oh, good question.
Well, let me just say. I have a vote.
I'd vote for Max. I would, too.
Selfishly, you know, you want to vote for yourself. I don't know.
The other three, they're all, like and like legit contenders and you know they'd all win it so do you have a do you have a speech written i gotta probably think of something you know maybe start making some bullet points yeah in case you win in case you win i think you got to be prepared this one feels like it's more wide open than it's been in a few years where like nobody really knows who's going to win it also like it legitimately could be you that would be a surreal moment like standing up there receiving the Heisman trophy have you ever have you seen it in person yet no I've never seen I know I'm like a college football nerd so you like grow up watching all the Heisman ceremonies and yeah all that but I've never been like I've never seen it ever been so it's gonna be cool this is my in New York. Oh, really? Yeah.
Who did you model your game after growing up?

I never really modeled

it, and you guys are going to get upset when I say it,

so I grew up a Packers fan, so I watched

Rodgers. Yeah, sure.

I watched Rodgers and Brett

Favre play all the time. Who do you think

was the bigger drug addict?

You guys killed me.

All right, keep going. Sorry.

No, so those are the two. I don't model,

but those are the guys you watch and try to

be tough and make all those throws. Off the field

Thank you. You guys killed me.
All right, keep going. Sorry.
No, so those are the two. I don't model, but those are the guys you watch and try to be tough and make all those throws.
Off the field. Yeah, probably not great for Brett Favre.
That's fine. How much money would you like to see go to TCU's women's volleyball stadium? Off the record.
I'm talking like welfare money. I got a connection.
Hey, our volleyball team was pretty good this year. So you're getting in brett farve territory wait so so uh the yeah the heisman like i it is one of those things it's like i know that it probably doesn't have as as much of like the like mystique that it did 40 years ago but i still love the heisman there's something about it like you did you have that moment when you realize you're coming to york like even if you don't win it on Saturday night, to be a Heisman finalist, that's fucking cool.
I love it because there's so much tradition and whatever you want to say. I still think it's an incredible even if you're not winning it but you're part of it like a finalist.
It helps your school. Your school gets recognition more than anything.
Getting getting on a national level, things of that sort. So I think it's awesome for just everybody.
So we need to get the Max Duggan statue getting built. I mean, it's coming.
If you win a Heisman Trophy, they have to build a statue. It's actually legally.
It's part of it. Have you thought about that? No.
Maybe we need to talk to our AD and our Chancellor. It is heavy, by the way.
We've held it. No big deal.
Joe Burrow, when he came in with it after. But it's heavy, so be careful.
Joe Burrow, born in Iowa. There you go.
Fun fact. That's true.
Joe Burrow's got like four states that claim. He's like Lincoln.
Yeah, he's a first state. He does, yeah.
Midwest. Born in Iowa, moved to Ohio, played in Louisiana, now back to Ohio.
So you grew up in Iowa, right? I grew up in Iowa, yep. Are people mad that you didn't go to Iowa, especially knowing, well, actually Iowa or Iowa State, knowing the quarterback situation's there? They were upset, I think, when I initially signed, leaving out of high school.
Yeah. They were my first two offers, and I spent a lot of time up there.
I thought about going to both schools what what what made you go tcu i didn't want to i didn't want to go to school in state i didn't want to go like kind of anywhere close i wanted to go kind of somewhere new and tcu has all the boring football stuff that you know you want to go to but like offense yeah like they play offense yeah like you get to pass the ball all the boring football stuff you want to go to but fort worth have you guys ever been to fort worth yeah it's It's awesome. It's an awesome place to be.
I know it's a small private school down in Fort Worth. It's a sick place to go to school.
Yeah. Yeah, isn't there the saying, keep Dallas out of Fort Worth or something? Yeah, Fort Worth is my second favorite city in Texas.
It's very underrated. People don't talk about it that much.
Yeah, there's a bunch of them. It's, if you want to live in Manhattan, move to Dallas.
If you want to live in Texas, move to Fort Worth. Yeah, yeah, Fort Worth, it's like an old school, like, actually a western town.
Yeah. Yeah, it is.
Yeah, like, you're going to get the old, like, country. But, like, it still has, like, the city feel, though.
Like, we're still, like, it's, like, 13th biggest city in the country. Yeah.
Yeah. So, what would you say would be your Heisman moment this year year i love it when they talk about heisman moments yeah i think like every i think everybody when they talk about heisman everyone tries to pick like little details like oh that might be his moment that might be his husband i don't really know um that touchdown pass at the end of the fourth quarter when you yeah something probably over the spread yeah yeah sorry to you guys about, yeah.
Well, we deserved it because I think the season started where we were like –

we had a joke because Dave didn't know your name,

and we're like, who's the starting quarterback TCU?

And he Googled it.

And Sonny, when he was on the show, he did the whole –

we have three quarterbacks in August.

So he told you you were starting though, right?

He was like, look, you're the guy, but I got to say three just to mess with everyone.

No, no.

Really?

Yeah.

Thank you. quarterbacks in August.
So he told you you were starting though, right? Like he, he, he was like, look, you're the guy, but I got to say three just to mess with everyone.

No, no, really.

Yeah.

That's, I mean, that's gotta be the first Heisman finalist to be in a quarterback competition

going into week one.

Right.

I'd imagine.

No idea.

That's crazy.

That's a crazy season, man.

You should be very proud of yourself.

You know, it's funny is that you, I remember week one, you guys all just got back from

Boulder.

Yeah.

You guys were high on Colorado and we were playing them and week one, you guys all just got back from Boulder.

Yes.

You guys were high on Colorado.

We were playing them, and we didn't get us.

Hold on.

Hold on.

We were high on Colorado knowing that Deion was going to go there next year.

Our defense, they told us that they were going to be wearing throwback jerseys,

and we are suckers for throwback jerseys, so we're like, hammer Colorado.

Turns out Colorado, I think they went the opposite of you guys.

I think they went 1-11.

I don't know how they finished up.

That was bad.

Yeah, you guys, you put it on them in that game.

Second half.

They were in it in the first half.

It was.

I think it was like a one-point game at halftime.

Yeah, well, we had altitude poisoning also.

We hiked an Everest equivalent when we were out there,

so it was like we had hypoxia. They told us whatever they wanted to.
We were yeah they're gonna be good yeah i like this coach what um how many cuts do you have on your arms right now oh dude too many yeah it's the it's turf it's the worst thing ever for we're grass guys we're team grass hashtag safer yeah i don't know anybody that plays like football soccer whatever like that likes turf yeah and it's like you get i might be an outlier but every time i get i get hit tackle it's like i'm gonna get a turf burn and then it's gonna scab well it's gonna start bleeding and then i look like an idiot on tv it's the red hair right yeah yeah yeah but do you know that they were saying that in the broadcast they were like they went down to the sideline they're like i just looked max tuggan has over 30 cuts and bruises on his arm they were they were counting yeah they They were. They were saying that in the broadcast.
They were like, they went down to the sideline. They're like, I just looked.
Max Tuggan has over 30 cuts and bruises on his arms. They were counting.
Yeah, they were. They were asking.
How can you count that? What's an exact number of cuts and bruises you guys got? You did look so fucking cool when you scored that touchdown to go into overtime and you were like, had to be picked off the ground. In your head, were you like this is like this is such an awesome moment oh i was so broke oh i was so tired just so gassed like whatever we had it was like mostly runs like not even design runs just like scrambles on that you were doing everything and it was like i'm so tired right now i didn't even know what was going on i'm like we scored i'm like all right cool you look to the sideline i forgot that we're down eight and everyone's putting up to you i'm like oh no yeah the two-point conversion it was it was an incredible game now obviously because you guys are in the college football playoff i think i can bring this up because it's not as like you want to win the big 12 championship but it's you still have your season in front of you what happened on third and fourth down in overtime yes they beat us they beat us on those third on those third and fourth down.
Did we think maybe that you were, like, kicking their ass and maybe shotgun, like, let Max make a play? Hindsight's always 20-20, you know. No, I thought that in the moment.
Because our running back has, like, not been beat on, like, short line, goal line stands this year. Like, he's been legit.
And we were running a run scheme to, like, behind our guys guys that we have been successful behind and it's like it's hard to get you know or to stop someone twice right from one yard and it's like hindsight's always kind of 20-20 since we didn't get it in i just felt bad for you in that moment because you played you like played your guts out and you were just like every it felt like one of those games every time you needed to make a big play you made a big play so it's like just let max make a big play again so that's why i just you know but again i feel like am i right that as much as that loss sucked it sucks a little less knowing like you guys are good you're in the play yeah we were all upset and you know because the pretty much they got taken out of our hands that we're not in control anymore and then you're all upset you lost a lost a league championship less than, you know, 24 hours later. You get to play for a chance to go to the national championship.
It's like, all right, it makes you feel a little bit better. Obviously, it still hurts.
Yeah. You know.
Yeah, definitely less sting. Yeah, you got to redeem yourself.
You got to play in the playoff and all that. So it's going to be cool.
Yeah. Going back to November 19th against Baylor, the end of that game.
That was one of the craziest finishes I've ever seen. You guys are driving down the field.
I don't know what's going on with the clock management. I was yelling at your coach through my television.
I was like, what the fuck are you doing? This is going to blow up in your face. They send you guys off the field, send the field goal unit on.
Clock's still running. The kicker doesn't even get a chance to line up.
He just kind of stops and boots it through. What was actually going on? Was that the plan the entire time where it was like you guys have timed out how long it takes your field goal unit to get onto the field? Yeah, so when you go into that situation, you know it's like 15 to 18 seconds is kind of that range where you can get that play off.
Anything less, you're not going to be able to get it off. And I think we started running off with 19 everyone's going to be like oh they didn't mean to do that that was bad play calling like they got lucky like we're running two plays to get it set up in the middle you know we don't have any timeouts like coach dykes our special teams coordinator our oc another coach that helps with clock management things situation like that had a plan they were letting us know like hey this is what we're going to do and i kind of knew that was what we were going to do yeah yeah I mean it was pulled it off you guys your season has been incredible it's just like every game it feels like something weird has happened and something awesome has happened the comebacks like it I think we asked coach dykes this but when you're in the locker room like all these games at some point you're like hey let's try to start fast start fast once.
There was a stretch there. It felt like a month where you guys just got in these huge holes and like, oh, they're going to just come out of this and win.
Oh, yeah. No, we're just trying to make it entertaining at home.
Make sure everyone gets stressed out. Every time we joke around about that, you're like, hey, guys, can we blow a team out? Can we not try to make it come down to the last two minutes and try to win a game because everyone else freaks out and gets pissed off at us.
Talk to me about the Hypnotoad and how the Hypnotoad has played into this team's success because I'm a fan. I'm actually just a fan of the social media accounts at TCU.
They do a great job with all that. So tell me what the Hypnotoad means to you.
Yeah, no, our guys, they know what they're doing, how to get people to start talking about TCU, but no, the Hypnotoad is a thing that's been going on at TCU for a couple years. It's not just this year, but since you had a good season, people start talking about it.
But it's just this little montage video that gets everyone cranked up, gets everyone fired. Our student section loves it, and we just got to ran with it.
Like, hey, it's good luck charm. People say hypnotizes the other team gets them like we used to play it before the ncaa got pissed at us but like we would play it and with like a bunch of you know random stuff on the big screen against kickers when they kick field goals that was like our thing and then we started making all the the cool montage videos but it's uh yeah it's helped us this season it's and the videos are awesome i don't know if you ever seen like the videos that we play in our stadium.
They're incredible. The videos are awesome.
Yes. No, and there's something about any college football team that has a unique mascot.
And when they make a run, just the horned frogs. And you're just like, what the fuck is a horned frog? And they're purple, and it's just cool.
What is a horned frog? Who? What is a horned frog? Yeah. People like to say it's a lizard or things of that sort, but it's like a frog lizard that's got these little spikes on them.
They're in Texas. They're real.
They are real. Are they purple? We can make them purple.
We can make them purple. Look at Billy.
Billy, can you make them purple? Billy's our lizard expert. It's technically a lizard.
Okay. All right.
Thank you, Billy. Yeah, there we go.
So, Gary Patterson obviously probably recruited you, right? How weird was that when he was across the sideline in the Texas game? Yeah, you know, it's just something that kind of became like of college football, like, you know, with how coaches are leaving and moving around, it's kind of, it's weird,

you know, cause you spend so much time with someone and, you know,

especially what coach P did for Fort Worth and TCU,

but you kind of like have to block it out.

Like you kind of have to not make it a big deal.

It was the same thing when we had to go play SMU this year.

Yeah, that's true.

Same thing.

Obviously there's the elephant in the room,

but you can't really let that get into it and like make it a bigger deal.

Cause it really doesn't like impact you.

I hope you about it. He might have.
I would think about that at all no i didn't really think about it he might think about that but like you still think about like players gotta play the game yeah so it's like coaches can know whatever they want to they still gotta coach the guys the guys still gotta you know make it make sense and he's gotta go make a play so it's like i just remember seeing him on the sideline like maybe it's week two against alabama and i was, wait, what the fuck? What is he wearing right now? This is weird. When he recruited you, did he leave halfway through the recruiting and go change because he got too sweaty? No, no, he didn't.
That would be funny if he had to change wardrobes in the middle of recruiting. Yeah, if the recruiting process wasn't going that well.
Did he wear a vest into your living room?

Like, is he really about that vest life, or is it just on game? Well, when he came up to my house, it was, like, negative because it was in December.

Right.

So, yeah, it was pretty cold.

I don't think vest-worthy.

Okay.

Yeah, so he wasn't sweating.

That's good.

Didn't keep that thing on him?

If I were him, I would just...

If you have a thing, you need to just embrace that thing.

Yeah.

Not stop and be a vest guy.

Do you have a year of eligibility left? Mm-hmm. Are you staying? I don't know yet.
I gotta. Do you want to announce it now? I don't know what I'm doing yet.
You guys can help me out and pick for me. Do you want to declare something? It's just always.
It's going to be like Bortles. Or is.
Yeah, you're retiring. Yeah.
Yeah, exactly. Are you retiring from the portal? I don't know what I'm doing yet.
Are you not? You're not. Well, no.
You're not going in the portal. No, no, no.
Okay, okay. I'm not going to the portal.
That's our announcement then. Max Duggan has officially announced he will not be entering the transfer portal.
Wait, does Quentin Johnson have another year? Yeah, but... Oh, he does.
Okay. I doubt he comes back.
Oh, whoops. Sorry, we'll'll cut that.
I doubt. I doubt.
I don't know.

The big takeaway, though, is that you're not transferring.

No.

What about JMU?

There's a lot of speculation that you might go play there.

Dude, those guys, they can't go to a bowl game this year.

It's kind of like, that sucks.

Yeah, they got a pizza party, though, from us.

Yeah, we sent them a bunch of pizzas. Oh, yeah, yeah.

What was it, like 40 pizzas?

A little bit more than that.

I think it was like 60.

Oh, okay.

Yeah.

If TCU wins the national championship, we'll throw a pizza party. We get a pizza party? You want a pizza party? You know what? Yeah.
What was it, like 40 pizzas? A little bit more than that. I think it was like 60.
Oh, okay. Yeah.
If TCU wins the national championship, we'll throw a pizza party. We get a pizza party? You want a pizza party? You know what? Yeah.
Yeah. Fuck it.
I'll match. Fuck it.
Yeah. I'm throwing you a pizza party.
Let's go. Yeah.
It's going to be huge. We're addicted to pizza parties now.
We're doing 150 pizzas. Wait, how many people are on the team? Like 120.
120 pizzas. We'll do a pizza per person.
Okay. There we go.
Actually, no, there's staff too. 150.
And the social media team too. Yeah, 150.
More? How many? 200. 200 pizzas if TCU wins the national championship game.
That's a lot of pies. Bucket.
That's a shitload of pies. Damn it.
It'll be a party in Fort Worth. Okay, yeah.
Well, yeah, because we're going to buy the pizza. That's right.
That's what I'm saying. Yeah.
Yeah. Fuck, we might have to come to that.
Has LT reached out to you? I talked to LT a couple times, yeah. Is he as cool as I think that he is? Oh, yeah.
Yeah, he comes to our practices. He's around.
He's on our board at TCU. And, yeah, obviously his nephew plays corner for us.
So, yeah. LT is a staple of TCU.
Mount Rushmore. Yeah, definitely.
He is Mount Rushmore of TCU football. Yeah, he is a one-person head.

Well, what about Andy?

Has Andy?

Nice guy.

Really nice guy.

You talk about football in Mount Rushmore,

there's like, obviously, Andy and LT.

Davey O'Brien went to TCU.

Yep.

You get Sammy Baugh, if y'all know that.

Oh, yeah.

He was a punter, quarterback, and he led the league in interceptions, too. Who's that? That's Sammy Baugh.
Oh, yeah, yeah. He was kicker.
Yeah, defense, quarterback, punter, kicker. That was how real men played football back in the day.
Yeah. Yeah.
More like that. Wait, so does Andy talk to you? Yeah, I still talk to Andy.
All right. Really nice guy.
Oh, awesome. I love him.
One of the nicest guys. Yeah, him and his family are awesome.
Yeah. Does he have any advice to you as a red-headed quarterback? Just keep slinging it, man.
Yeah. Just keep it.
Red rifle right there. That's good advice.
Wait, so when does prep start for Michigan, or has it already? Yeah, our coaches have already started on it. We, players-wise, have had practice off.
We've been lifting things, so we'll start practice on Sunday, though. Okay.
How much do you bench? How much does Billy bench? Oh, good question. He doesn't know it.
He just had the flu, so he lost all his gains. Oh.
Lost all my gains. He lost all his gains.
He lost all his gains, dude. I probably could still throw out, like, 275.
Oh, that was a lie. You hear how he, like, kind of stumbled over that one? That? That's like 255.
He probably don't let you bench. We do like the quarterback like friendly where it's like not the barbell but it's like the straight bar or the neutral grip or whatever.
Better than your like for your shoulders. I'm like, I don't know what it means.
They have so much stuff now that it doesn't make sense to me. Yeah.
That sounds like you bench a lot though if, if you wanted to. You could probably do at least 285 if you really wanted to.

He's got to maintain range of motion.

Let him answer the question, Billy.

I don't know how much, but I haven't really maxed bench probably since my maybe senior year of high school.

Yeah.

And what did you bench then?

Not that much.

I was a little boy back then.

How far do you think you could throw a football?

60, 65. I don't know know i don't have a big arm that's pretty that's pretty good though i don't know you get guys like josh allen and my dudes throw like 65 on their knees yeah yeah i mean he had my arms i can spin it yeah what would you say like your best attribute as a quarterback is it's not really quarterback but like competitiveness it's not really quarterback but yeah you're a tough dude you compete at everything try to yeah play ping pong or something play checkers you want to guess the number sure yeah do you know this yeah hanks never gotten it what do you want to get you what do you want to guess i'll let you just you um let's go what's it go up to 100 100 let's go like 43 if you get this it's actually it's a good guess i think 43 so stressed because he's never gotten it so like anyone who walks in and we're just like hey guess if they get it and he doesn't.
No. Oh, 69.
That sucks, Billy. No.
No. His guess is 69.
No. That ruled.
Sorry, Billy. They're due.
They're due. They repeat a lot.
Oh, this is a very important question. Have you decided what you're going to wear to the Heisman Trophy? Oh, yeah.
Yeah. Is it something cool? Yeah, something cool.
Is it like it like a purple thing yeah i got a little purple so the the shop that i went to and got me all hooked up they uh like dressed out baker for his heisman like dd westbrook yeah they had uh so it's gonna be some cool stuff you should wear a 10 gallon hat oh yeah that would be sick if like make a statement no one behind you couldn't see the the stage you got cowboy boots i do have cowboy boots, though. I think, I don't know, cowboy boots in New York City, they'll be like, okay, stop trying to be Southern.
I think that would play if you were born and raised in Texas. Yeah, if you were really about that, it's not really my personality, though.
You're a fake cowboy. Yeah, maybe a toothpick, though, in your mouth when they zoom in on you.
That would be nice. What's a big Iowa thing if you're looking at Iowa fashion? Iowa fashion a hoodie a hoodie and shorts Carhartt maybe some overalls you know farmers tan pants and a Carhartt yeah do you know our friend Trent he's from Iowa he works here oh yeah yeah I've never met him but you should watch his highlight reel from when he was in high school he's a menace at middle linebacker he.
He's an absolute beast. All right, well, Max, this has been awesome.
Do you have any questions for us? Because you are an AWL. We appreciate you listening, man.
No, I appreciate it. I'm getting on this for the first time.
This is awesome. Well, now you're part of the club.
We will protect you. Let's go.
We will defend your honor. I have another question.
Do you have any enemies? Yeah. This is part of the deal.
So if you have enemies now, where are your attack dogs? I don't really have any. If I think of some, I'm going to let you know.
I need coffee, by the way. Oh, I have some.
Amazing. Oh, you got it.
Dawson sent me some. Fuck yes.
Yeah, Dawson. I'm happy you liked it.
Yeah. There you go, Dawson.
Way to go, dude. Dawson was being a guy.
Hank thought his name was Blake. He looks like a Blake.
He looked exactly like someone, and I texted the kid he looked like. I was like, hey, let him know we'll be ready in 30 minutes.
He's like, that's not me, but I'll let Dawson know. Yeah, wait, so Dawson works for us.
He claims he played. He did.
What did he play? Kicker. Oh, okay.
I thought you were a long snapper. You were a kicker.
Yeah. Okay.
Walk-on kicker, yeah. Oh, okay.
What's your longest field goal? 55. Whoa.
That's not that long. No, but that's just during the summer.
I've kicked longer. That's just during the summer.
Yeah. I made a 60-yarder one time.
I was trash. I was not good at all.
Yeah. I literally learned how to kick just to make the team.
How long? That was the only reason why. When you were kicking, how long did Coach tell you it would take for you to get onto the field with the clock running?

Oh, I was too far down on that depth chart. So that was never a question that was asked of me.

Gotcha.

Yeah.

Gotcha.

All right.

Well, Max, good luck on Saturday night.

We're rooting for you.

Yeah.

200 pizzas for TCU team if they win the national national title and two liter sodas too for everybody.

There you go.

Yeah.

Do you want?

No,

I,

I was going to say,

do you want pizza if you win,

if you beat Michigan,

but I think that's just mission,

not accomplished.

Yeah.

It's yeah.

You're getting rewarded.

You still got,

you still got another game to play.

Yeah.

We don't want you guys getting like too,

too full.

Yeah.

Too much grease.

Yeah.

Right.

Right.

It's going to be a hell of a pizza party. Yes.
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We got Fyre Fest of the Week.

Great show today, boys.

Great show.

I like that Alex Bregman interview a lot.

Good show.

We got Max going with him pretty good.

We were like, hey, remember when you said it wasn't a no-hitter?

And Alex was like, yeah, our team threw, and they didn't hit any balls.

I honestly completely forgot about that because it was the most – it wasn't a no-hitter, so it was – Put the camera on yourself, Max. I hadn't thought about that since you guys brought that up right there because I was like, oh, right, I guess they have that bullshit thing.
Yeah. I mean, did you look at the box score, though? Nope.
No hits. No hits.
Still no hits.

No hits.

Fake.

Frank.

My Firefest of the Week, I was leaving the office yesterday, put on my nice winter coat,

went to zip it up, and for whatever reason, when I pulled up the zipper, it broke.

I'm zipperless.

It's a coat that's like...

You're zipperless?

Yeah, it's two or three years old.

Luckily, it hasn't been too cold, so I was able to manage the commute with having my

Thank you. It's a coat that's like...
You're zipperless? Yeah, it's two or three years old. Luckily, it hasn't been too cold, so I was able to manage the commute with having my chest exposed with multiple layers.
90s style. That's how we used to wear our coats back then.
So I'm going to need to buy a new coat. Damn.
I think I might... I don't know.
Are you going to get a puffer? I don't know. I've never really gotten a corporate coat, like a pea coat or a big boy coat.

I don't know.

You should get a trench coat.

Yeah, you should get a trench coat.

A tan one. That'd be so sick.

A tan one.

Like one of the ones that the old guys wear in Law & Order.

Yeah.

You'd look awesome in a trench coat.

You would look sick in a trench coat.

You won't.

He won't, though.

He's not going to do it.

He won't do it.

No, he's not.

I'm open to suggestions.

That's a terrible one. I'm open to good suggestions, not ones lit by gas.
That's what you're talking about. That's a great suggestion.
I wish I could get a trench coat. You can't.
No. Have you seen what I wear? You can't wear sweatpants and basically a wife beater every day and then have a trench coat on top of it.
You can. People wear less.
Yeah, actually, I'm going to push back. Actually, freaks sometimes wear nothing at all.
I don't think you can say can't with anything. The sky's the limit? Yeah, you're like a blank canvas when it comes to whatever you want to wear.
I could pull most things off. I don't think a trench coat, though.
I think if I put on a trench coat, people would just walk the other way from me. Yeah, that might be the case.
Hank, what was your face? The kid that is boys with Garrett. Who the fuck's Garrett? He works here.
Or not Garrett. Duggan.
Oh, Blake. It's not Blake.
It's a kid that looks exactly like Blake. And I was texting Blake, and he's like, by the way, I'm not the person that's with him.
It's not me. It's someone else.
And I just realized that. Oh, no.
Okay. So I feel bad.
Yeah. Okay, you should feel bad.
Yeah. Okay.
They look, in my defense, they look very... We do have a type of bar stool.
Yes, we do.

Okay, BFT.

He's just like, yeah, I mean, I told him, but I'm not involved in this.

Hank talking about the jackets makes me realize, like, it's not going to get cold this year,

is it?

It's not going to get cold anywhere.

Yeah.

It's crazy.

That is crazy.

Global warming.

Is Chicago cold?

Not right now. Huh.
Interesting. It's like 40 degrees right now everywhere.
My Fire Fest, I've got two. I'll make them real quick.
First one is- Bachelor party this weekend? No bachelor party this weekend, but it is tied in with that. I'm addicted to nicotine again.
Oh, no. Even though I quit vaping like a year and a half ago.
What? What does that look at? No, continue. I did.
I quit vaping. No, I wasn't going to give you a look for that reason.
I quit vaping the day after the Super Bowl. Cold turkey.
Never went back. I quit doing dip and nicotine pouches Labor Day weekend.
Haven't done any this year. That's very tough to do during football season.
And then between going to Qatar with Donnie, where I'm overseas, I allow myself to smoke cigarettes if I'm overseas or if I'm inside anywhere in the United States. Those are my rules.
I just trust them. And I smoked a shitload of cigarettes over in Qatar.
And then I went on a bachelor party, smoked a lot down in Panama, amongst other things. and I'm just fully addicted now where I'm going through the withdrawals to nicotine again.
Headache, jaws tightened, the whole nine yards. Even though I don't even really use nicotine.
I got re-addicted over the last two weeks. Damn.
So that's tough. I'm sorry.
I just might get back on. I just might start vaping again.
Yeah. Why not? My other fire fest is that I'm about to buy a Christmas tree this weekend because it's getting in the Christmas spirit.
I love Christmas trees. It's the best smell.
One of my top three smells in the world. And in New York City, you know how much Christmas trees cost? Just guess.
$7. I was going to say $400.
I don't know the markets. I don't want want to guess $300? I don't know It's about $400 Oh wow It's about $400 for a Christmas tree here Which as a former Christmas tree salesman I see the prices And I don't want to pay them And every year I do the same thing Someone's like yeah it's $400 What is it elsewhere? Well so where I used to sell them It was between $ 50 and 60 bucks.
Wow. That was also like 30 years ago.
Shut the fuck up, Hank.

Shut up. That was like the 70s.

Fuck you, Hank. Listen.

We sold a

fair tree at a fair price. Gas was under

a dollar. Do you know the Christmas tree they got

on the movie A Christmas Story? PFT

sold them that one. I was a great

Christmas tree salesman. I sold Christmas trees

to Newt Gingrich and Colin Powell. Who else has done that? Get you a great christmas tree salesman i sold christmas trees to nuke gangrich and colin powell who else has done that get you man that can do both um but yeah so they're 400 bucks and i'm just going to end up having having to buy a tree for 400 bucks because what am i going to do not have a tree no just get an ounce of christmas tree yeah yeah just like just just the needles yeah why not um all right my firefest i already talked about it this week but i was like deathly ill for 24 hours this week i do not know what happened i feel losing a sunday podcast nfl podcast like being like out of rhythm you know how we've done a like maybe one or two in the past like six years zoom and it feels like everything's off the rest of the week.
Yeah. That's how I felt all week.
Just because Sunday night I was so out of it. And so fucked up and puked.
That I've just been like. I need a Sunday reset.
Yeah. I need a Sunday full show.
Feel good. Like have the energy to do it.
To feel like good again. It feels like that show didn't even happen to me probably.
Yeah. I think we did one a couple years ago i think i was at a bachelor party in canada yeah and we couldn't make it work and it did feel like i was i was like playing from behind all week right exactly because like the sunday night pmt fall football shows is like a tent pole in my like life and so my whole orbit has been fucked up i did lose eight pounds fuck you hank because I didn't eat for like 48 hours.
So that's pretty sick. And I'm also like confirms everything.
I'm also I'm also is this your fire? No, you're right. And I'm also, though, now the problem is you guys probably all know this.
Like when you your stomach shrinks and you can like ride that wave for a couple days. I haven't had my first big meal yet.
I think I'm going to have it soon, though, and then it's all going to be gone. That'll be a good one.
Because, you know, like I'm right now, I had like a half a bagel for breakfast. That's all I've had.
And I don't feel hungry because my stomach shrunk. So maybe I'll just get six pack before Hank and ride the wave of being sick.
If you can make it till January 1st and then just do a New Year's resolution. Yeah.
Just don't eat. Yeah.
Fuck you, Hank. May the best pack win.
You're never getting one. Super Bowl abs.
You and I have the exact same percentage chance of having a six pack in our lives. False.
Zero. So false.
Zero. You know what's crazy is in this room, if you were to handicap who has the highest likelihood of getting abs, I think it might be Jake.
Yeah, I'd agree. Well, I don't go to the gym.
Billy. But you can start.
That's what I'm saying. You've got that smoking bod without ever working out.
Smoking. Like, imagine if you started going to the gym.
You'd be unstoppable. If Max started powerlifting, he could be like Magnus Von Magnus.
Max outbench Billy. You know the powerlifters who have abs, but it's like a belly abs? He could get a power belly.
Yeah, it wouldn't be a power belly. I don't think you'd ever get a six-pack.
Okay, that would rock. I think it would just be like.
It's like a turtle shell. Big man.
It's like a turtle shell on your stomach. That's what you could get.
That's HGH bubble gut. Yeah.
But yeah, Hank, you and I, 0.0% chance either of us ever have a six-pack. Say about that.
Okay, we will. We will.
Hank's going to hop on CRT. Billy.
Ever since I got the flu, my eye just keeps twitching. Oh, that's dehydration.
Really? Yeah. Oh, I got to drink more water.
Yeah. Less caffeine, more water.
Or you have the Justin Bieber disease. Oh, shit.
No, when I drink too much coffee, my eye will twitch a little. It's dehydration.
I drink more water. Yeah.
Thanks. Yeah, because when I got sick on Monday, I've been pissing like mutant orange for like three days.
I'm finally back to being hydrated. Sweet.
Yeah. And then what else? You can also put a hot compress, like a hot towel on it, and it will help relieve it a little.

I actually need that because I feel it,

but I don't know if people can see it.

Yeah, yeah.

Usually you can't see it.

But yeah, do a hot towel right on top and just hydrate.

I don't know if people are going to start making up like Katy Perry rumors

about me when my eye's twitching.

Yeah, no, Billy, ever since he got the vaccine,

Billy's just been malfunctioning.

Don't do that.

Don't say that he's Katy Perry. Don't say that Billy got vaccinated either.
Also, I lost all my gains. I worked out for the first time two days ago after being sick for a week, and I am so sore.
I can't believe it. Oh, yeah.
I also lost all my gains. Yeah.
Lost them all. Me too.
That sucks. Brutal.
A full week? I lost all my gains. Also, I need to talk to someone.
Actually, never mind. You know how many gains I had? Billy lost all his gains in a week.
That's crazy. Yeah.
He went seven days without working out. Jake, wrap us up.
That makes you one week. Two weeks because of Thanksgiving.
Oh, wow. Even worse.
So this happened just minutes after we recorded Tuesday's episode. And if it happened during the show, it would have made for a very interesting podcast.

But two words.

John Heyman.

Yep.

Arson Judge.

There was five minutes right after we recorded where I thought he was gone.

He was gone.

He was gone.

He was gone for a second.

And I couldn't believe it.

And that just changed.

It teaches such a bullshit lesson to Yankees fans.

Which is everything that happened to you in those like five, ten minutes. when you're going through denial, when you're losing your best player, everybody keeps doing that same thing.
They keep refreshing Twitter, and they keep saying to themselves, maybe it's a mistake. Yeah, but this time it actually was.
And this time it was a mistake, and you guys got him back. Insane.
So congrats. You got the tap-in merchant back.
Yeah. Also, the craziest part about the Aaron Judge contract,

you know how they're always like tax savings?

They're like, Aaron Judge saves 7% in income tax

playing in New York versus California.

That is crazy.

It's like, wait, what?

They're both one and two, I think.

But it's just funny to be like,

that could actually be calculated like,

oh, New York City's better tax place.

Yep.

So that was very scary, but he was wrong.

Yeah, he was wrong.

He was crazy.

It's a big deal. funny to be like that could actually be calculated like oh new york's new york city's better tax place yep so that was very scary but he was wrong yeah he was wrong is he gonna suffer any consequences hayman i don't think so everyone's acting like nothing happened the fans aren't but other journalists are still crediting him on these other stories it's crazy now we should talk about this because also in that same 10 minute span when when he went to the Giants and then that got revoked, a report came out saying that the Yankees were beneficiaries of having juiced balls all last year.
This was all, yeah, in that window. All in that one 10-minute.
Maybe that was fake too. No, no, that part was real.
The Yankees were getting juiced balls, asterisks on his home run record, on his AL home run record I mean Jake how can you how can you discount that they were purposely giving okay you can the best balls in baseball to the New York Yankees last facts facts but would you like to apologize it's a nice record but we just care about winning the World Series which we haven't done that's the goal so yeah it has been a long time well yeah good for you, you re-signed Cashman too. And look what he did.
Actually, Hal Steinbrenner, I don't know if you guys saw this, he was in Italy and he got the deal done with Judge. Wow.
That's incredible. And if he didn't get Judge, that would have looked probably not so great.
Yeah. During winter meetings.
Very bad. But he got him.
And he's Yankee. And he's a Yankee for life, and hopefully he'll be the first captain since Jeter.
His C should have an asterisk next to him. Instead, the C should just be an asterisk.
He's not only a Yankee for life, he's a Yankee for, like, well past his prime, too. Because he's already 30? Yeah, I mean, he's going to be, like, 45.
He's the best player in baseball right now. Can't deny that.
That's always a good thing to pay for pass production.

Are they going to as part of the contract that they get to keep using

those same baseballs? I don't want to ruin your

thing. I understand, but Yankee haters

in those five to ten minutes are like, ha ha,

he's gone. And then when they sign him, ha ha, you got

stuck with a good contract. Yeah, no, it's true.
You can't do it both ways.

Yeah, or a bad contract. Also, shout out

to the, I'll say something nice about the Cardinals.

They got the best catcher they'll ever have in their franchise history,

Wilson Contreras.

So, good for them.

Numbers.

17.

42.

Brittany Griner.

Wow.

Free BG.

Rob Taylor.

18.

Shout out to you.

I got to look up some of that on the list.

So, so Jackie Robinson.

I'll go with –

I think everyone knows 42 with Brittany Griner.

Hank, what would your second number be? 17. What would your third? I don't know.
Come on. You know what? Sebastian has 37.
I'll let Hank split 17 with me if he wants. Sebastian has 37.
We can share that. 37 for Sebastian? 69.
Parker Titsworth. Give me a number, Hank.
71. I'll do 71.
20. 71.
Hank, your number is? 42. Brittany Griner.
No, 0% chance. Same percent chance you'll get a six-pack is the chance you'll ever get this machine.
Oh! Oh, my God. That's what the mentalist had.
No. Oh, my.
It was. Yes.
No, he didn't. It was.
It's 29. I thought we were going to play a trick on Hank Motherfucker Because we already did another one before Wait wait 68 Oh that is what the mentalist had No 68 is back to back It's back to back I understand fucked that up.
I forgot because we had already done Will Levis, and then I just... Lottery ball rigged.
Interesting. Yeah.
Hank's just sitting there being like, what are these guys talking about? Can we start doing the money thing? Oh, my God. We talked about this.
January 1st. Oh.
Also, that is back to back. 68.
Love you guys. I thought that's why you're freaking out, Jake.
Big cats are now illegal. I thought you's why you're freaking out Big cats are now illegal Big cats are now illegal to own In the United States I'm the one I'm the one to say I'm saying anyway Today is a top day To find you shy away I'm coming for you love okay Love okay I'm coming for you I'm coming for your love of kings.
Thank you. Thank you.
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