Astros Alex Bregman, Heisman Finalist Max Duggan, Baker Is Back + Week 14 Picks & Preview

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Speaker 1 a big texas twofer we got alex bregman from the houston astros and then heisman finalist max duggan from tcu in studio awesome uh catching up with him he's in awl we're gonna do week 14 picks and preview.

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Speaker 1 Today is Friday, December 9th, and Baker Mayfield is back.

Speaker 4 The Rams fleeced the waiver wire. Absolutely fleeced.
Hollywood, you know what Hollywood would do if you brought him to Script the cat? What would they do?

Speaker 4 I think they'd stab you in the throat with a stapler and they'd stick a dynamite up your ass.

Speaker 1 I think they would be like, they'd murder you.

Speaker 1 They would say, no chance. This can't happen.
The guy was signed two days ago. He doesn't know the playbook.

Speaker 1 They even did, Sean McVeigh even threw out John Wolford for one series just to be like, nah, forget it, Baker. And

Speaker 1 it was... It was a classic Thursday night football game for the major, pretty much the first, I don't know, 57 minutes.
And that, I mean, it sucked ass. Like, it sucked ass.

Speaker 1 It was, the first drive was awesome. The Raiders, like, hey, this could be fun.
The Raiders are lively. And then we just sat there watching suck ass football for

Speaker 1 probably three hours. And then Baker, they left too much time on the clock for Baker.
Comes back down 16 to 3 in the fourth quarter, making play after play, doesn't know the playbook.

Speaker 1 I'm happy for Baker. I really am.
Like that, that was actually cool to see on the sideline how excited he was, how the team was, how Sean McVay was. I also have a stay woke for you, PFT.

Speaker 4 You ready for this? I'm always woke.

Speaker 1 Baker Mayfield wears his little headband. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think there's padding in it.

Speaker 4 Yep. Yeah.
I was going to say.

Speaker 1 I think there's padding in it. So he keeps doing the headbutt thing, and everyone's like, holy shit, what a psycho.
He's like, no, I'm good.

Speaker 4 I noticed that after the game, and he was being very aggressive with his headbutts, but he was making sure to line it up right on the headband. Yes.

Speaker 4 He might have like two headbands in there. He might be double bagging it.
But you rested Baker. Baker's going to go on a fuck you tour of all fuck you tours, at least for like the next three days.

Speaker 4 He's going to just be scrolling Twitter, name searching, seeing all the stuff we've said about him in the past couple years.

Speaker 4 Although, I mean, I did say that I'm a believer in Baker Mayfield again the second the Rams picked him up. Like,

Speaker 4 I like Baker Mayfield. I still think he's got like all the tools.
He does have this cute little like jump pass thing that he does.

Speaker 4 Anytime that he's trying to throw a pass across the middle, you know, where all the offensive and defensive linemen are, he does like leap off both of his feet just to make sure that it gets over top.

Speaker 4 He's got that weird Baker-Mayfield factor.

Speaker 4 You might call it Moxie. I might call it Spunk.

Speaker 4 He's got some shit to him.

Speaker 1 But it's also just a simple fact.

Speaker 1 No disrespect to Kevin Stefansky. All the disrespect to Hugh Jackson.
All the disrespect to Matt Rule.

Speaker 1 He has, Sean McVay is so leaps and bounds ahead of those coaches that, like,

Speaker 1 you know, Stafford's a quarterback. Let's see what happens with his injury.

Speaker 1 But if Baker can find a second life in LA with Sean McVay as his coach, like, he will be good again because Sean McVay is a fucking great coach. And I was also PFT.

Speaker 1 Should we start talking about this being Sean McVay's best coaching job? Tonight, in particular? No, this year.

Speaker 1 He's done his, you know, Sean McVay has been to two Super Bowls, won a Super Bowl, but actually the 2022 season was his best job as a head coach.

Speaker 4 So I love where your head's at to go down that path and be the first to say it. I actually think that his best job coaching was in the Super Bowl when he limited Tom Brady to only

Speaker 4 13 points, right?

Speaker 1 That's true, yeah.

Speaker 4 That's pretty impressive, too. Like, that hasn't been done in the Super Bowl before.
But no, I like where your head's at to get Baker to be able to go out there. And I mean, he's playing football.

Speaker 4 He's played football his entire life. Al Michaels at times was talking about it.

Speaker 4 Like, Baker Mayfield somehow learned how to do open heart surgery in the last like nine hours on an airplane on a cross-country flight.

Speaker 4 When they brought up this play call, I'm going to read this out loud. This is a prototypical play call in the Sean McVay system.

Speaker 4 Lins to Deuce Wright, Claw, Z short, Lander, Z strong, X Revo, Z Lockback, Can 2 Jet, X Monday, Astro, Reed, Alert, Money, Deacon, Flow F, Panama on the Omaha.

Speaker 4 That's what they said was a play call in Sean McVay's system.

Speaker 4 If that's the truth, we need to stop talking about Sean McVay as being a genius because why don't we just run like quick slant or four versus like seriously?

Speaker 4 Or just name that play, take all that stuff I just said, and then just call it black.

Speaker 1 You know, right, early. There's no way.

Speaker 4 Listen, I'm not a football genius. I did not play football past high school, but there's no way that we need all those words.

Speaker 4 And if you do need all those words, then it's a fucking miracle that they ever get a play snapped in time before the play clock expires.

Speaker 1 It was also very funny. Kirk Herbstreet, friend of ours, but he,

Speaker 1 I did think Al had more life tonight. I think it was because he was playing a home game and he just had to drive to the game.
He felt like he was a little more chipper.

Speaker 1 But Kirk Herbstreet, like the third, he was defending Baker all night because he knew like he was in an impossible spot. But he did have one funny comment like in the third quarter.

Speaker 1 He's like, Baker just needs to stop thinking and just go out there and throw. And it's like, dude, yeah, he doesn't know the playbook.
Like, of course, that's what he has to do.

Speaker 1 He doesn't, he literally just met all these guys 48 hours ago. Like, all he can do is go out there and throw and play ball.

Speaker 1 And that's, that's kind of how it went is like, they couldn't score for three and a half quarters.

Speaker 1 And then when you get to the end of the game and it's just like everyone just run their route and try to make some plays, that's when it all started working. And he fucking Baker Mayfield.

Speaker 1 What, like, I was, I took the Rams tonight and I was just happy that he fought for the cover. The fact that they got the ball back, he went 98 yards, insane.
Yeah, insane.

Speaker 4 There were a couple weird things that happened at the end, especially like with the officiating.

Speaker 4 Pretty soft personal foul call, some other things that got called back. But

Speaker 4 Baker showed up when he had to, like, maybe just run the two-minute offense the entire time that you're playing.

Speaker 4 Just actually draw stuff up in the turf and let Baker go out there and just fucking sling it because that's what he does best. And I'm pumped to see Baker for the rest of the year.

Speaker 4 All of a sudden, the Rams went from maybe

Speaker 4 the most boring team to watch in the NFL for the rest of the season to one of the most exciting teams just to see what Baker's got.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 I was obviously a little joking about the Sean McVay thing, but also kind of serious in the fact that they literally have lost their entire team and the season is lost. And it's the worst

Speaker 1 Super Bowl defense ever, statistically.

Speaker 1 But the fact that even the last three games, how the Rams have fought, like they were about to win that Seahawks game.

Speaker 1 Remember, they went to Kansas City and yeah, Kansas City, it was never a doubt that the Chiefs were going to win, but it wasn't the blowout that everyone was expecting it to be.

Speaker 1 Like they're fighting and they're, they're, I guess

Speaker 1 it's the fact that they don't have their draft pick because they like, what's the point of losing when you don't have your first round draft pick? But they're fighting. Sean McVay, he might.

Speaker 1 I might give him my coach for my vote for coach of the year.

Speaker 4 Wow. So that goes, we've got Sean McVay.

Speaker 1 We've got who else?

Speaker 4 Vrabes, I think, got part of one of our votes.

Speaker 1 I think Mike McDaniel might have gotten some. Brian Dable.
Brian Dable already got one.

Speaker 1 A full one.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So we've been given a lot of them.
But yeah, so throw Sean. We should actually, let's make sure that we do that graphic at the end of the year.

Speaker 1 Our coach of the year, and it's just like 17 names. It's the Magic Johnson Coach of the Year.

Speaker 4 Speaking of Magic Johnson,

Speaker 4 we got breaking news for Magic tonight. I want to make sure that we get this out here because we haven't addressed this on the show, and the media hasn't been talking about it.
It's crickets.

Speaker 1 It's crazy, actually, that this story just

Speaker 1 Magic broke it.

Speaker 4 He did. So six hours ago, Magic Johnson.
Breaking news.

Speaker 1 Breaking news.

Speaker 4 Congratulations to Coach Deion Sanders on being named the head coach of the University of Colorado per Magic Johnson six hours ago.

Speaker 1 Shout out, Magic.

Speaker 4 We appreciate it. You know what?

Speaker 4 The Rock is kicked out of line for club 999.

Speaker 4 Magic Johnson is the next one up.

Speaker 4 Magic Johnson, I want him to be my millionth follower to unlock the club. We know some people that know Magic.

Speaker 1 Rob Lowe, I know you're out there.

Speaker 4 Talk to Magic. Just tell him to hit that follow button.
He doesn't even have to stay follow me. He can unfollow me after like five minutes.
I don't care. Just tell Magic to follow me, Rob.

Speaker 1 Do you know what? There's also no way that magic like scrolls on twitter no no well he he he texts that we know

Speaker 1 that's what i'm saying like i feel like magic johnson is realistic i gotta find out if we have any any uh mutual followers i i'm going to say this about magic this is actually a nice spin zone that i just came up with in my head in a world of fake news people rushing to report things before they're facts, I respect the fact that Magic Johnson is like, you know what?

Speaker 1 I'm going to wait until Dion has slept in Boulder, Colorado for at least three nights before I report this news.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm going to wait. You know what it is? Magic Johnson waits until he hears his first Rick Riley joke about something,

Speaker 4 and then he puts it out there as real.

Speaker 1 It's just so perfect. But, all right, so Raiders, the other side of this game, they're dead.
That was it. I was actually like, I wasn't nervous about my pinky, but I also looked at the schedule.

Speaker 1 I was like, wait, they're five and seven. That happened out of nowhere.

Speaker 1 That was a game, like they had to win out. And the fact they lost that game was just so Raiders and so this Raiders season.
I also appreciate Derek Carr. I think every

Speaker 1 broadcast team, when they do a Raiders game, if Derek Carr like comes out hot, they always have to put up the graphic being like, Derek Carr, like no team, Derek Carr has played for a team that their defenses have given up the most points in the NFL like for the last decade.

Speaker 1 They always do like the sad, Derek Carr's really good, but he's just very unlucky graphic. They threw that out there in the first quarter quarter and I was like, yep, it's good.

Speaker 1 Because, you know, the game scripts always go like, are we going to talk about Baker, which they did at the end, or are we going to talk like, oh, Derek Carr, like, you know, this guy's really, really good.

Speaker 1 Like, he is like in the Tom Brady Aaron Rodgers class. He's just unlucky.
Yeah. Like, he's Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen.
He's just unlucky.

Speaker 1 And that just got robbed of him in the second half.

Speaker 4 It's because he looks so sad all the time. He always looks like super sympathetic.
He's got the eyeliner goth thing going, and people just look at him. And

Speaker 4 he looks like a guy that's honestly locked himself in his room for 12 hours, listening to the cure to get ready for the game. And he goes out there, and he starts out pretty good.

Speaker 4 He looked good in the first quarter.

Speaker 4 Josh Jacobs looked good in the first quarter, too. And then he threw that one interception.
in the end zone.

Speaker 4 It was Derek Carson Wentz. It was Carson Wentz like it was off one foot as he's falling backwards, just fluttered up in the air.

Speaker 4 Two guys were going to intercept it, if not a third. And from that point on, he's so he's a guy that he will come out, he'll look good.

Speaker 4 But if something goes wrong, if he, he's like always struggling to believe in himself.

Speaker 4 And right, right when he starts to like really get his mojo going, if he does something to interfere with that confidence, then it's like a balloon that gets popped for the rest of the game.

Speaker 4 And then he's just, you can't use him.

Speaker 1 He also, Derek Carr might just be sneaky like a fuck analytics guy because he's like,

Speaker 1 I don't want three points. It's three points.
It's seven points or nothing.

Speaker 1 Like if we're not going to get it, if we're not going to get a touchdown here, I'm going to throw a comically bad interception to make sure we don't kick a field goal.

Speaker 4 It was a very funny interception.

Speaker 1 Also,

Speaker 4 did you see, so Devontae Adams catch in the first quarter. Incredible.
It was amazing. It was awesome.

Speaker 4 But I feel like we're at the point where we've become desensitized to the one-handed catches because that catch, if that catch happened 15 years ago, we would talk about it for years.

Speaker 4 It would be called like the catch. Nobody would shut up about it.
It would lead the SPs. It would be like on every year in review clip that you'd ever see.

Speaker 4 And now it was amazing to watch, but I also feel like we're going to forget about it by Sunday.

Speaker 1 Well, it's just receivers are just so fucking good now. They just are.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like they're just so, so fucking good. Like it feels like every,

Speaker 1 you know, I don't know,

Speaker 1 20 out of the 32 teams have, like, a receiver that just can make those catches and is that fucking good.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm thinking that

Speaker 4 it might be the gloves. Maybe the gloves are making the one-handed catches so easy.
But then if that's the case,

Speaker 4 why don't defensive backs wear wide receiver gloves?

Speaker 1 That's true. What are you going to say, Hank?

Speaker 1 No, I was going to say this clip of Matt Hollins, friend of the program, at least friend of mine, first guy I ever met when I went to meet Caleb at UNC.

Speaker 4 He was his roommate.

Speaker 1 He was grittying on the punt at the end of the game.

Speaker 5 He grittied to down it.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 And so

Speaker 1 that after a loss just is a tough look. And I feel bad for the guy because if they won it, it's cool, but they didn't.

Speaker 4 I think back in like 2012,

Speaker 4 right when I was starting to write online, I got pre-mad.

Speaker 4 about like the day that would come one day where people would do celebration dances for downing punts and we finally hit it we finally hit that i'm so glad that it went the other way and they lost the game after that because it would be so lame if that got if matt collins got away with doing that oh my god

Speaker 1 that's incredible holy shit um but yeah shout out to matt collins though great guy yeah good good uh good game out of nowhere

Speaker 1 i feel that that's really tough shout out baker also i know we have fire fest but i have another fire fest if i could real quickly i i don't don't know if you guys saw, I quote-treated

Speaker 1 as a joke because it was a funny Photoshop of me looking like,

Speaker 1 I don't know, 400 pounds. Everyone thought it was real.

Speaker 1 No one thought it was real. Credit to me, Bitcat, I did not think that it was real.

Speaker 1 I did have to double check, though.

Speaker 1 No. So I was like,

Speaker 1 that was a no way. This is real situation.
So when people were replying that it was real, I was like, fuck. that's believable.
Shit. No,

Speaker 4 it didn't look real at all. I think those people were just messing with you.

Speaker 1 If those people were just messing with me, it was hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people who all

Speaker 1 people were doing the thing where they were sending me their

Speaker 1 text messages with their families where they'd sent the picture and like the mom's like, I didn't know he was that fat. You know, those, like, those are the worst.

Speaker 1 It was a no way this is a real situation, but I did have to like go and find the original picture because I was like,

Speaker 1 maybe.

Speaker 1 Maybe. Maybe, yeah.
So, yeah. So Hank was Hank.
Exactly. It was the same.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's all right. No, but I knew.
I knew it was fake. I knew it was fake.
Yeah. It's fine.
It's fine.

Speaker 1 It's, I'm not, I'm not hurt. I'm not hurt at all.
I'm just not going to, I'm just going to skip breakfast and lunch tomorrow. Okay.
We have a great show coming back in the studio.

Speaker 1 So Alex Spregman, Max Duggan, week 14 picks and preview. Spirited week 14 picks and preview.

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Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 4 week 14.

Speaker 1 Uh-oh. Week 14.

Speaker 4 A lot of buys this week.

Speaker 1 Six teams on a buy this week. And guess what?

Speaker 4 It's a weird time for a buy.

Speaker 1 I don't know why. It's a weird time for a buy, but they damn did they get it right with the buys this week because it's all bad teams.

Speaker 1 It's the Falcons, it's the Bears, it's the Packers, it's the Colts, it's the Saints and the Commanders. Commanders are the best team out of that.
The other five, we're sniffing around.

Speaker 1 I can just say, like, I'm okay not watching football the other five teams.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's pretty good. It's just weird having a buy this late in the season in December.
December doesn't feel like buy season to me.

Speaker 1 Is this the end of buys?

Speaker 4 I think this is the last buy. Okay.
I mean, it's fantasy playoffs next week.

Speaker 1 No one cares, but it's a lot of buys

Speaker 1 the last week of the season. That's true.
But these teams suck. Like,

Speaker 1 if you have players, if you're the majority of your roster is built on Falcons, Bears, Packers, Colts, and Saints, you're not in the playoffs. Wait, how many battles are there this week? Six.
Six?

Speaker 1 Sixteen.

Speaker 3 All the fantasy relevant players on those teams haven't really panned out. Like Jonathan.

Speaker 1 No, no, that's not a great year. You're not in the playoffs.

Speaker 3 How pissed out for the year.

Speaker 1 You're not.

Speaker 1 You're probably like, nice. I don't even have to think about how bad my team is.

Speaker 4 Hank, I had an idea for the Hungry Dog this week because did it hit last week?

Speaker 1 No. No.
Has it hit recently? No. No.
So just... Yeah, well, in the past year, yes.

Speaker 4 Oh, the past year. Yeah, it's been pretty successful.
Like, last December, it was good. So maybe it's just the time of the year that it's going to be.
But I had an idea for it. Win?

Speaker 4 What if, yeah, you could win.

Speaker 4 What if you just

Speaker 4 took like

Speaker 4 favorites and then bought points to turn them into uncertainty?

Speaker 3 It worked for you in the picks competition. You took the Lions minus three in the pick on last week.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, absolutely. Nailed that one.
Smoke them.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 what if you took teams that were like, what if you took the Cowboys? Were they minus 17?

Speaker 1 Made them 14 points. Yeah, made them 14.

Speaker 4 Bought it all the way back, and you took the three biggest favorites this week, turned them into underdogs, and then parlayed those. What does that pay out?

Speaker 1 Got to be minus money.

Speaker 1 As a plus-sign enthusiast,

Speaker 1 I can't. I'm just trying to get you to the win conference.
No, I know. I've been giving my advice.
I don't know if he's taking... Are you taking my advice this week? Two teams.
Two teams. Yeah.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Okay. Two teams.

Speaker 1 I'm a listener. I just

Speaker 1 have a bad idea. But see a free throw.
That's not as bad. Yeah, you just.
Well, okay. We need to see one go through.
I'm no offense.

Speaker 4 I'm going to take my idea. You take your idea, and we'll see who has more money.

Speaker 1 Ooh, great.

Speaker 1 Good. All right.

Speaker 1 Awesome.

Speaker 4 You're fucking fantastic, fan.

Speaker 1 Lovely.

Speaker 1 I can't wait.

Speaker 1 Okay. Should we get into it? So, what are the records? It's bad.

Speaker 3 Well, I stink I'm 0-9 in my last two weeks.

Speaker 1 And by the way.

Speaker 3 I'm outside with Hank for last place.

Speaker 1 And by the way,

Speaker 1 we got to be worried about Jake because he's already talking about needing Tommy John if he has to bolt. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Like, Jake, you're not going to need Tommy John.

Speaker 1 Your shoulder might be higher than whoever.

Speaker 1 It's confirmed. Heavy.
Basically, he was like, if I have to do it, I'm getting Tommy John. You should get pre-Tommy.
I think you've already scheduled the appointment.

Speaker 1 Do you have an elbow, existing elbow injury?

Speaker 3 No, I have an existing shoulder injury.

Speaker 1 So you just think you'll need Tommy John?

Speaker 1 I mean, that

Speaker 3 my stomach might explode.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 Your stomach will need Tommy John.

Speaker 3 I think if me and Hank get in last, that's the biggest question marks for how this ends. Because Hank, he's not a big eater.

Speaker 1 So him him having to eat 30 hot dogs personal information

Speaker 3 and me, I've notable stomach issues.

Speaker 1 We don't know how that would end.

Speaker 1 Who would be? I would get it done. Wait, if he's not a big eater, who would be considered a big eater?

Speaker 1 The fattest fuck guys in the room.

Speaker 1 I wanted to give you a layup, Hank. You've been hurt.
You haven't gotten anything right in fucking all year.

Speaker 1 Well, either have I, and I'm tie with Hank now.

Speaker 3 Anyways, up top, big cat at 27, 25, and one. PFT closing the gap, only half game behind.
There you go. The max of 25 and 27.
Billy's 22 and 31, so he's two games up on me and Hank. So

Speaker 1 there's 20 picks left. And I'm two above 500.

Speaker 4 Correct. Yikes.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 So this week, I was looking at the over-unders. I just might go under straight across the board.

Speaker 4 I love these unders.

Speaker 1 There's some crazy ones, too. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 What do you say, Billy? One of you guys might want to tank.

Speaker 4 Why would you want to tank for this one?

Speaker 9 Because to get second.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 TFC would never do that.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I respect the integrity of the competition far too much.

Speaker 1 I'm just going to keep picking and hope. I don't know.

Speaker 10 Because that's the closest. That's way closer than the last competition.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, you're facts.

Speaker 4 The thing is, I don't really care about

Speaker 4 if I win this one or if I lose this one. I would rather not lose this one because it feels like this one will be a tough competition.
Will suck.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 4 I'm not going to mix around with any of my picks or anything. That was a one-time thing, and it worked to perfection, but I'm not going to run it back.

Speaker 1 It also, this is one of those ones that,

Speaker 1 as long as you don't think you need Tommy John, like it's going to suck, but you can get through it.

Speaker 4 Well, the crazy thing is, like, I...

Speaker 4 I probably do need Tommy John, but I'm not worried about this. You'll be fine, Jake.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I would welcome the challenge. And at the end of the day, like, the dip, it's all about the AWLs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true. That's true.

Speaker 1 Okay, so should we get into it? I mean, there's some decent games this weekend. Yeah.
I'm excited about a few of the games.

Speaker 1 Billy, you got a big, big matchup against the Bills, like basically season-altering if you can win that game.

Speaker 1 There's two season-altering games. What's the other season-altering game?

Speaker 1 Different other conference, similar scenario. Actually, almost the exact same scenario.

Speaker 4 Are you talking about Eagles Giants?

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Yeah, that's true.
That's fair. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then the Sunday night game is going to be fun. Miami versus

Speaker 1 the Chargers. That's just a fun jersey matchup.
That's like a.

Speaker 1 It's like almost throwing like a 80s

Speaker 1 Halloween party.

Speaker 4 It's going to look nice under the lights. Yeah.
Those two uniforms for sure. Yeah.
All right.

Speaker 1 Hank, your favorite favorite, and let's talk about every game this weekend. My favorite favorite is the San Francisco 49ers minus three and a half against the Bucs.
Okay. Bucs look disgusting.

Speaker 1 I think the 49ers are really, really good. They're going to make a run.
They're going to, I just think the Bucs

Speaker 1 are so bad.

Speaker 1 They're really bad.

Speaker 4 I'm a believer in Brock.

Speaker 4 They barely beat Cock Brown.

Speaker 1 I'm a big believer in the 49ers offense, defense coaching. I don't think the QB matters as much.
I've always said that about Jimmy G, and I think this week is going to show it.

Speaker 4 I like Brock. He's got the it factor.

Speaker 1 So I like that pick, Hank.

Speaker 1 I keep thinking about this game because it does feel like it's going to be a low-scoring game. I think the over-under is, what, 37? Yep.

Speaker 1 The thing that I keep going back to, though, when I'm like, ooh, should I take the points? He's low-scoring.

Speaker 1 The 49ers are going to just wreak havoc on this Tampa Bay offensive line. Like, Tom Brady doesn't trust the offensive line at all.
And now you have to go up against a defense that flies around.

Speaker 1 And remember, we were talking about Monday Night Football. Like, the Bucs just seem slow.
The 49ers are opposite of slow.

Speaker 4 This is like a sliding doors moment. If Mark Ingram had stayed in bounds, which he should have done in that fourth quarter, we would all be just crapping down the Bucs' throat right now.

Speaker 4 You would absolutely hate the Bucs. Yes.
But they got a win because of some fluky stuff. And yeah, Brady made a couple big plays down the stretch.
Don't want to take that completely away from him.

Speaker 4 But the Buccaneers should have lost that game on Monday night. The fact that they didn't is really fucking with our memories right now.

Speaker 1 It's true.

Speaker 4 Because we should be remembering this Bucs team for what we saw after the first three quarters, which is just a big turd and a giant and a giant punch bowl.

Speaker 1 You could even say after the first 57 minutes. Yeah.
That's the craziest part. It's like they were bad for 57 minutes.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it was just a big steaming pile of crap, is what we should be thinking about when we think about the Buccaneers.

Speaker 1 Okay, good pick, Hank. Three and a half Bucs

Speaker 1 or 49ers against the Bucks.

Speaker 4 Big Cock Brock.

Speaker 1 Max.

Speaker 11 Detroit Lions minus two. Yep.
Love it.

Speaker 1 Let's go.

Speaker 1 So hard. Let's go, Max.

Speaker 1 Let's go.

Speaker 4 How do you guys like this? Yeah.

Speaker 1 What do you mean? How do we like it? I'll tell you why. How do you like it? Billy, let me take you to school real quick.

Speaker 1 You want to hear some cold hard facts? I'll hear some facts. Okay, cold, hard fact number one.

Speaker 4 Out of every single team to ever be 10-2 since the 1970 merger, and that's a shitload of them, the Vikings are by far and dead last for point differential.

Speaker 4 By far. I'm talking, their point differential is three times smaller than the second best, or than the second worst team, which was the 2019 Seahawks.
The Vikings, they're frauds.

Speaker 4 We're correct about the Vikings, and the Lions are a good team. The Lions are good at football.

Speaker 1 This is now the Groundhogs Day of pardon my take is every Monday being like, the Vikings are good. Like, what more can you say? and then friday being like go against them they're frauds

Speaker 4 it's over they're dead i am billy i'm taking it for one simple reason the vikings are 10 and 2 the lions are five and seven the lions are two-point favorites that makes no sense yeah that makes no sense that so you have to take the favorite you guys are experiencing a logical fallacy though by looking at the numbers next to their schedule and you're thinking of that bill parcels your your record is you are what you are what your record says you are that's got to be the the dumbest thing ever said to be re-quoted by everybody else pretending that it's scripture in the history of the written word.

Speaker 4 Past performance, not indicative of future results.

Speaker 1 The Lions are good.

Speaker 4 America needs to come to the realization that the Detroit Lions are good at playing fraud.

Speaker 1 But the Vikings are good. The Vikings are good.

Speaker 4 But they're also frauds.

Speaker 1 Because of the point differential. Okay, here's what I will say about this game.
Yeah, correct.

Speaker 1 No, Hank's right. Here's what's right.
Here's what I will say about this game.

Speaker 1 So you also have the Lions? Yeah. All right, so Max, PFT, and I all have the Lions.

Speaker 1 He's going to blow up in their face. So bad.

Speaker 1 This game, I guarantee you one thing about this game. This game is going to be the last game to finish in the one o'clocks, and whoever is leading for the majority of the game will lose the game.

Speaker 1 So like if the Vikings are winning all game, I'll feel great about my Lions pick, and it will also be like 4.30, 4.35. And I'll be like, whoa, this game's still on.

Speaker 1 There's just going to be stupid shit that happens in this game. It will make no sense, but I'm going to do it.

Speaker 4 I'm going to do it. From a statistical standpoint, Kirk Cousins is not good against the Blitz.
That's just a fact.

Speaker 4 He's not even in the top 20, I don't think, in the NFL against the Blitz. The Lions love to Blitz, and they've been getting big pressure on quarterbacks recently.

Speaker 4 Kirk Cousins, not a good matchup for him. The Lions should have beaten them the first time that they played.
It was a fluky little result at the end. I like the Lions.
You know what?

Speaker 4 I might bet the Lions up again. Would I have them at last week?

Speaker 3 Minus three? He went from minus a half to minus three.

Speaker 4 No, I'm going to stick minus two and a half.

Speaker 1 I like minus two right now. Minus two.
No, because I think last week. Okay.

Speaker 1 The other thing, we all know the new nightmare. Kirk Cousins just kills it in the noon one o'clock slot.

Speaker 1 Jared Goff also been very good in that time frame. He's 25 and 13 against the spread in 1 p.m.
Eastern or earlier. I like that.
So New Nightmare versus New Nightmare.

Speaker 4 But wait, this is going to be played at 1, right?

Speaker 1 Because it's in Detroit. It's in Noon and Van Dynama.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but it's in Detroit. It is in a dome.

Speaker 1 At 1.

Speaker 7 Vikings are good in the Dome.

Speaker 4 Dome sweet dome. So are the Lions.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 7 And they handled the Jets' blitz pretty well.

Speaker 1 But the Jets should have won that.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you actually definitely should have won that game.

Speaker 1 You should have won that.

Speaker 4 Billy, why are we Jetsplaining to you?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, remember, he didn't watch the game.
He watched the tape after. I watched the tape after.
So you don't realize how much the Jets should have won that game. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because I already knew they lost it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. So you were like, how did we lose it? Not watching being like, can we win this? Did you guys see the what-if standings that got released on Twitter? I love looking at these.

Speaker 1 It's the, if every single game played in the NFL this year, one possession game, had a flipped result. So any game that was eight or less, you flip the result, what would teams record be?

Speaker 1 The Vikings would be 1-11. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Well, I mean, that goes back to what we were saying about the Vikings, which is like, we talk a lot of shit about that.

Speaker 1 I don't like the what-if standings?

Speaker 4 I love the what-if standings. At the same time, like, they know how to win close games.
Yeah. They've been through that before.
So it is.

Speaker 4 I do like thinking that the Vikings could be 1-11, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the what-ifs.

Speaker 4 Honestly, they'd be the best 1-11 team of all time.

Speaker 1 All time. We'd be talking about how frisky they are.
For sure.

Speaker 3 You know, the top three seeds in the AFC are?

Speaker 3 Browns, Raiders, Jaguars.

Speaker 1 I love it. I love the what-if standings.

Speaker 1 The top seeds in the NFC would be 49ers, Lions, Cowboys, Falcons. And then the Seahawks, Bears, and Cardinals would make the playoffs.

Speaker 1 So what if standings rule?

Speaker 4 That just means that the Cowboys are really, really good. Yeah.
If the Cowboys are still in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 And this also is just me telling on myself how sad my life is as a Bears fan because I love the what-if standings because every December I look at them and I'm like, ah, what if? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, what if the ball had bounced a little bit differently here or there?

Speaker 4 Yeah. What if? Maybe there's a reason why you've lost a lot of games by six points.
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 all right, so we all have the Lions. The only other what-ifs, oh, yeah, the Giants would have been 2-9-1.
So that was the other what-if standings that stuck out.

Speaker 1 Billy, your favorite, favorite. That was a spirited Vikings Lions preview.
I like it. I'm jacked up for this game.
This game, there's a little state right now, this game's getting sound.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this game's getting sound.

Speaker 4 I'm actually going to go, I'm going to go max units on this one. Okay.
I'm going to put my money where my mouth is. So if I lose, it's going to stay.

Speaker 1 So you're betting with Batgirl's money?

Speaker 4 It's going to sting. Yeah.
Maximum units.

Speaker 1 Got it. I'll be on the Vikings.

Speaker 4 I'm sure you will, thanks, Hank.

Speaker 1 No, duh.

Speaker 1 Good thing you don't show up till 6 o'clock. Skull.

Speaker 1 Lucy.

Speaker 7 My favorite. It goes down in Ohio.
Bengals by 6 over the Browns.

Speaker 8 I like the Bengals.

Speaker 4 It goes down in Ohio.

Speaker 1 So here's why. The only reason I don't like it.
The Bengals are way better than the Browns. Deshaun Watson stinks.
He looked terrible last week. He's a pervert.
Yes.

Speaker 1 The Browns do own the Bengals right now. They're 5-0 straight up against them the last five games they've played, which is Joe Burrow, Kevin Stefanski, Zach Taylor.
It's the iteration of these teams.

Speaker 1 And I can't get that Monday night game out of my head where the Browns were like dead and they just absolutely buried the Bengals. So

Speaker 1 I like it, but I'm also worried like maybe the Browns just have the Bengals number and the Bengals win the rest of their games, but they lose this one. However,

Speaker 4 this is a little bit different because it is Deshaun Watson and Deshaun Watson sucked. last week.
True. I think they, what, they beat the Texans.

Speaker 4 They covered against the Texans, but I think they had two defensive touchdowns and a special teams touchdown. So it's not like Deshaun Watson did anything to beat them last week.

Speaker 1 I'm more worried that the Browns run game might have that.

Speaker 4 Here's the difference, though. This week, do you know what the Cincinnati Bengals did to get ready for the game?

Speaker 1 What did they do?

Speaker 4 They have removed the ping-pong tables from the locker room.

Speaker 4 So this is a ping-pong table game for Cincinnati. No distractions.

Speaker 4 I'm a big believer in ping-pong tables.

Speaker 4 It doesn't matter if you put the ping-pong tables into the locker room or if you take them out of the locker room. If you're moving a ping pong table around that week, I will bet on your team.

Speaker 4 But it changes the vibe.

Speaker 7 I don't think that worked.

Speaker 1 But they just beat the Chiefs.

Speaker 4 But it's a vibe change. I like that even more.
It's saying, we're not going to be complacent. We just beat the best team in sports.
I think they were number one in Jake's all-sports power rankings.

Speaker 4 They removed the tables because they're saying, we're ready to go.

Speaker 1 I had the Warriors on. Oh, the Warriors.

Speaker 1 That's bullshit.

Speaker 10 It should be the Chiefs.

Speaker 7 Swag like Ohio. This game's going to be insane.
I think that the Bengals are going to be like, yo, we've lost the Browns so much. Let's get up for this game.

Speaker 4 That's why they put the table and they're taking it so seriously.

Speaker 7 And Deshaun Watson is a pervert.

Speaker 1 If I had gun to my head, I would take the Bengals in this game. No doubt.
I'm just saying the thing that's making me nervous is the fact that the Browns have owned the Bengals. Yeah.
That's just

Speaker 1 some teams just have other teams' numbers. This game's in Cleveland?

Speaker 4 In Cincinnati. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 9 So I don't think it's a track.

Speaker 7 I think it's like a homecoming game.

Speaker 8 They were home last week. I know, but like double homecoming.

Speaker 1 Sometimes you homecoming.

Speaker 7 Sometimes homecoming is scheduled.

Speaker 1 Cleveland's also in Ohio. I know.
So triple homecoming. Exactly.
It's a triple homecoming Billy special.

Speaker 4 No, but it's like you schedule a homecoming game against a weaker opponent, knowing that you're going to win. But sometimes that gives motivation to the game.
Yeah, but we're going to be...

Speaker 1 It's not a trap game. When's the dance?

Speaker 4 Are they having the dance on Saturday?

Speaker 1 I think so. I think homecoming week for the Bengals was the Panthers game.
Right. That game that was like

Speaker 1 late October, beautiful out. They put up like 42 points.
That was homecoming. The homing night.
No, No, this is senior night. This is senior night.

Speaker 4 Homecoming was the white helmet, the first white game.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was too early. That was in September.
Sometimes you have an early homecoming, though.

Speaker 7 This is like senior night.

Speaker 7 It's like it's a big night.

Speaker 8 So they're getting it going. Homecoming.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's Harambe night.
Yeah, it's Harambe night. Yeah, Harambe night.
Okay. All right, yeah.
It's officially Harambe.

Speaker 4 If they really wanted to beat

Speaker 4 the Browns and get that monkey off their back, they would actually do Harambe night. Yes.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Favorite.

Speaker 3 I'm taking the Titans minus four against the Jaguars. This is put up for shut up time for the Titans.
They got smoked last week. They lost the week before to the Bengals.

Speaker 3 If they lose this game or don't look good, I think people will be out on them come playoff time. So this is hopefully a get-right game for them.

Speaker 4 Yeah, they did get smoked.

Speaker 4 The Jaguars coming off of an obvious loss. I just feel like there's a big pendulum with the Jaguars, and you just bet against whatever it was they did the previous week.

Speaker 1 And I also think there's two games this week, the Monday night game, Cardinals, Patriots, and then this game, Jaguars, Titans.

Speaker 1 That if you have a strong opinion on either side, I'm like, I don't believe you. Yeah.
Because I just could, you could tell me.

Speaker 4 I'm going nine for a reason.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you could tell me any result in this game, and I'd be like, yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I just think that

Speaker 4 the Titans have probably a big case of senioritis because they won the division in like week four this year.

Speaker 1 So it's actually preseason.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 there's nothing that they can do to lose.

Speaker 1 And they just fired their boss.

Speaker 4 Yeah, they fired their boss.

Speaker 4 They could fire everybody in the front office, still win win the division, and still have that first-round loss in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Underdogs. So Jake has the Titans minus four.

Speaker 1 This will not be in the Hungry Dog because I don't think they're going to win the game. Threading the needle a little bit, but I'm taking the Giants plus six and a half against the Eagles.

Speaker 1 Simple as this. Divisional game.
Giants need it. Divisional game.
No love loss. It's going to be close.
It's going to be tight.

Speaker 1 I think the Eagles will win,

Speaker 1 but it's a divisional game. It is.

Speaker 1 I I see if I have the number. It's a pretty good, like, if you just bet

Speaker 1 a home underdog in division late in the season is almost automatic.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think it's over 60%.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So

Speaker 4 my stat that I'm going to use, and Billy did look this up, but Stathole Sports also checked it out for us. The heaviest teams, we talked about which teams on average weighed the most.

Speaker 4 As the current roster stands right now, the New York Giants have by far the fattest team. I think they're up around 250 pounds per person, and they severely outweigh the Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 7 That depends on how many offensive linemen they have active.

Speaker 4 I'm talking about their active roster. That's all.

Speaker 12 Right, but that might switch from game time.

Speaker 4 Well, sometimes the Giants don't have even a full active roster, remember?

Speaker 4 They're in Cap Hell.

Speaker 4 So the Giants, I think it's about 250 pounds per player, and then the Eagles are all the way down there at, I want to say they're more around 244 pounds per player.

Speaker 4 So, maybe that's my metric that I'm using.

Speaker 11 Take Devontae Smith out, and then maybe we're good.

Speaker 1 That's true. That's a good point.

Speaker 7 Yeah, although Jordan Davis is like 400 pounds for the record on that stat, as of full rosters on ProFootball Reference.com and their weights, the Packers are the heaviest team at 251 pounds, which is six pounds more than the average NFL player on an NFL team.

Speaker 1 Fat asses. Oh, here was the stat I was going to say: in December or later, over the last 20 years, teams with a 90-plus

Speaker 1 win percentage are 32% against the spread. And when they play on the road, they're 20% against the spread.
So pretty much when you're late in the season, the teams that are really, really good,

Speaker 1 they struggle covering spreads because the spreads get so big, which makes sense. These teams are a lot more even, but the record makes everything get, you know, out of control.
All right.

Speaker 1 So you have the Giants, six and a half. Max.

Speaker 11 Chargers plus three and a half.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 It's three, and it's against the Dolphins.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I don't hate that. It's going to be the entire conversation is just going to be about Tua or Justin Herbert for this game.

Speaker 4 It's going to be a redraft festival.

Speaker 1 And Justin Herbert's not getting enough help, which I'm firmly in that camp.

Speaker 1 I'm just all the way in on just treating Justin Herbert exactly how I treated Phil Rivers, being like, I love watching this guy. He's not the best, but he's pretty damn good, and he needs more help.

Speaker 4 I mean, Phillip Rivers at one point had LT

Speaker 4 Darren Spriggles and Michael Turner and Antonio Gates.

Speaker 1 He did.

Speaker 4 And Vincent Jackson.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that team went to the ASC championship.

Speaker 4 Yeah, they're pretty good.

Speaker 1 I think Mike Williams comes back this weekend.

Speaker 1 Well, that's... You could just say, we could just plug in every week, like, Keenan Allen might play, or Mike Williams.
And then next week be like, whoever played

Speaker 1 my play. But now I think they're both back.
Really? Yeah. So that's the first time.
Until one of them gets hurt half this quarter.

Speaker 4 So take the charge in the first half.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
So you have chargers. All right.

Speaker 4 PFT? Ravens at Steelers. Hmm.
So I don't know what the number is right now. Ravens plus two.
Oh, even I thought it was plus one and a half. Ravens plus two.

Speaker 4 These two teams don't like each other very much. There's no love lost.
You can throw out the record books when these two teams get together. That's my entire analysis.

Speaker 1 Tyler Huntley.

Speaker 4 Tyler Huntley. I love him as a backup.
Tyler Huntley. He's a fun backup.
Also, the Ravens' defense is good. The Ravens' defense is, they've been improving all season.

Speaker 4 And Kenny Pickett, he's been very good recently. I think this is a step-back game for them.

Speaker 1 I'm surprised they weren't higher up on the What If rankings. The Ravens? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Well, no, because

Speaker 1 they've won and lost a bunch of

Speaker 1 one possession games.

Speaker 4 They keep getting double-digit leads,

Speaker 4 losing them, and then barely winning.

Speaker 1 They have the exact same record eight and four. Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's the best part about the What If Rankings.

Speaker 1 Okay, my

Speaker 1 favorite underdog. I'm getting a little afraid of how much I like this pick.

Speaker 1 The Carolina Panthers plus three and a half with the Seahawks.

Speaker 1 I really like this pick. I think the Panthers are frisky.
I think the Seahawks are okay,

Speaker 1 but these teams are a lot closer than people realize. Panthers got a good defense.
I also think,

Speaker 1 and maybe he played well because we're taping this in the afternoon. I think the Panthers might be...
even a little bit better than we give them credit for now that Baker's not their quarterback.

Speaker 1 And I'm believing in Sam Darnold again.

Speaker 4 Baker's stunk as the Panthers quarterback.

Speaker 4 There's no sugar coating that. I think that Baker was like the worst quarterback in the NFL when he was playing on the Panthers.

Speaker 4 I think he'll be good eventually, but it was just bad vibe. It was a bad relationship.
It was. For both sides.

Speaker 4 It was chaotic.

Speaker 4 They were both to blame.

Speaker 1 Right. So now you have Sam Darnold who, like, hey, throw it to DJ Moore.
That kind of stuff. Yeah.
So I just think this game, you know, Seahawks off a pretty emotional comeback win.

Speaker 1 Panthers, I think, off of a buy. Yes, a buy.
I like the Panthers plus three and a half.

Speaker 4 A couple things about this game. One, I do like the Panthers' defense.
Panthers' defense is better than I think most people are giving them credit for.

Speaker 4 Second thing, though, that makes me lean towards the Seahawks.

Speaker 4 Did you hear about Turf the Dog?

Speaker 1 No, what happened?

Speaker 4 R.I.P. Turf the Dog,

Speaker 4 the Seahawks internal dog that they had, a three-legged good boy.

Speaker 4 passed away after a lengthy battle this week.

Speaker 1 Internal being in the ticket office?

Speaker 4 No, like he was hanging out with the team and meetings and stuff. He was.
He was around the team facility. He was a three-legged dog named Turf.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, that doesn't help.

Speaker 4 And they brought him out on the practice field every day, and he would chase away the geese and the birds and all that, and then play in the sprinklers. He was a good boy.
He passed away.

Speaker 4 It feels like a Turf the Dog game to me.

Speaker 1 Oh, God damn it. So I got to change my pick.

Speaker 4 You don't have to.

Speaker 4 I wanted you to be aware because I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 4 if the Seahawks won that and they have a big in-memorium for Turf the Dog during the game, you're going to be like, why didn't anybody tell me about Turf the Dog? Fuck.

Speaker 4 Okay, look up his Twitter account.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 I'm looking for another underdog. God damn it.

Speaker 4 I mean, I'm just saying, Turf the Dog.

Speaker 1 Fuck.

Speaker 1 Broncos plus nine and a half.

Speaker 3 Against the Chiefs, the game that was flexed out.

Speaker 4 Oh, man, the look on Jake's face with that flex.

Speaker 3 I called the flex out. I missed the replacements.

Speaker 1 You're better than L. That's.

Speaker 1 You know what? Stu Feiner,

Speaker 1 you know, the picks that make you uncomfortable are the best picks. The Broncos.
That's a gross pick.

Speaker 1 Do you know how

Speaker 1 do you know Patrick Mahomes' record against the AFC West on the road?

Speaker 4 Infinity and Zurich, 26-2.

Speaker 1 It's 14-0. Yeah.
How insane is that?

Speaker 4 It's crazy.

Speaker 1 14-0.

Speaker 1 9-5 against the spread.

Speaker 4 This is gross.

Speaker 1 You did this to me.

Speaker 4 I wanted to make you aware of Turf. You got so mad if nobody told you about Turf.

Speaker 1 You get 20% blame. Turf for dying gets 80%.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so

Speaker 4 whatever you want to do.

Speaker 1 No, no, I'm taking the Broncos. I'm taking the Broncos.
I'm going full steam ahead. That's my pick.
Broncos plus nine and a half. It's the grossest pick on the board outside of the Texans.

Speaker 1 Let's just fucking do it. The Broncos countries, let's rock.

Speaker 4 If you're the Broncos defense this week, after like you keep showing up every single week.

Speaker 4 And then last week, maybe more than ever, you like played your ass off in that game and you still couldn't get enough points to beat the Ravens.

Speaker 4 Is this like a major letdown spot where you're going up against the Chiefs? Or is this like, let's go out and this is the best offense that we could possibly be going against?

Speaker 1 I do think people get up for the Chiefs.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah.
So, so, okay. Yeah.
I still don't like how the Broncos didn't play their starters in the preseason. No.
That's why they're losing right now. This is absolutely.

Speaker 1 The Broncos are terrible, but nine and a half is a lot. They covered nine last week against the Ravens.
Yep. Lamar did get hurt, but yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, Billy.

Speaker 7 So for my first dog, I really like the Vikings. Plus two against the Lions.

Speaker 1 Don't let us talk you out of that.

Speaker 7 I know, but like the Jets are plus nine and a half against the Bills.

Speaker 1 They're actually plus 10. They're plus 10?

Speaker 1 Oh, man. I mean, Ron Miller out for the year.

Speaker 4 That's a big number to move up from nine and a half to ten.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 7 But I like the Vikings pick.

Speaker 4 I still do it, but...

Speaker 1 No, go with it.

Speaker 4 But the Jets.

Speaker 4 Are you a Jets fan?

Speaker 7 Yes.

Speaker 7 I think they definitely do cover oh you know why okay this this is my this is my reasoning it is going to be snowy and 39 degrees in buffalo at 1 p.m on sunday we sure have had that yes in buffalo not an hour and a half away from buffalo new york okay uh meaning it's gonna be a low scoring game

Speaker 7 meaning both teams you know that's like that's a very widespread for a low scoring game.

Speaker 4 It's true, like by percentage, yes.

Speaker 7 So I've just talked myself into taking the Jets by 10.

Speaker 4 This happens.

Speaker 1 Literally, every week. I know it works.
Every week. Every week.

Speaker 7 It works.

Speaker 4 It's worked. Every week.

Speaker 3 The Jets did not cover last week.

Speaker 7 I know, but then I also put them as an under.

Speaker 4 Every week, Billy says, I'm going to take somebody else, and then he talks himself into the Jets.

Speaker 3 They didn't hit the under last week.

Speaker 1 I know they hit the over.

Speaker 7 Yeah. But like, look at how well my Jets picks have been doing over the past couple of weeks.
They've only hit, I think last week was the the first time it didn't hit in like.

Speaker 3 You're one and two in your last three.

Speaker 1 But look, look farther than that.

Speaker 1 No, don't take the Jets, Billy.

Speaker 4 All right, Jets by time. The second day you said I was going to do the Jets, I knew that you were going to end up doing the Jets.

Speaker 7 But the Vikings pick, I don't understand why they're not favored.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

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Speaker 1 I kind of zoned out for a minute there. Billy just, he was going to pick something else, and you ended up with Jets.
Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 I was listening, Billy.

Speaker 4 You could have a chat

Speaker 1 AI robot

Speaker 4 write an entire script of part of my take, and Billy would talk himself into the Jets every single time.

Speaker 7 Mike White, he's finally in there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's in white.

Speaker 4 He's big time in there. Mike fucking white.

Speaker 1 Novon Miller.

Speaker 1 Jake.

Speaker 3 I'm taking the Buccaneers plus three and a half against the 49ers.

Speaker 3 Obviously, we broke down this game earlier, but if you look at it from a basic perspective, Tom Brady's an underdog against Brock Purdy. That's the only reason I'm doing it.

Speaker 4 Shit, yeah, that's a good point, actually. Like, the Buccaneers suck ass.

Speaker 1 Right, but like,

Speaker 1 they lick

Speaker 1 crazy. They just

Speaker 1 swallow shit. It didn't factor.
That's the only point. Everything you said is true.
Damn,

Speaker 1 you bodied Hank with that.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's Purdy versus very Purdy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Like, yes, he played well against the Dolphins, but can he do that for four or four points?

Speaker 1 Tom Purdy versus Tom Brady.

Speaker 3 And he's a favorite.

Speaker 1 Like more than a field goal.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So stupid.
No, again, Hank could win. Dude, Tom.
Tom Brady doesn't play defense. Hank just bet on Brock Purdy.
Brock Purdy doesn't have to be Tom Brady. And he needs to win by more than four.

Speaker 1 By three. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Brock Purdy is giving Tom Brady points, and Hank says, yeah, that sounds like a winning proposition.

Speaker 1 Well, if he takes a Brock Purdy

Speaker 1 business. Tom Brady by a field goal, Tom Brady still covers.
Oh man. Oh man.

Speaker 1 Brock Purdy.

Speaker 4 Hank, you fucking moron.

Speaker 7 Actually, can I switch my pick to the Vikings?

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Hand off the picture.

Speaker 1 Hand off your piece. You guys are going to be able to get the best.
I already went back and forth for like an hour. No, no, no, I'm not.

Speaker 8 No, no, no.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. We've moved to the next.
I can't switch to Broncos.

Speaker 10 PFT switches his stuff all the time.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. Not after we move to the next one.

Speaker 3 There's enough for Billy here. There's been some late changes, I feel like.

Speaker 1 How late?

Speaker 3 During the pick segment. I feel like that's when we usually cut it off.

Speaker 4 No, but I mean, we are getting later in this competition.

Speaker 1 Billy, just stick to it.

Speaker 4 I'll say, like, if Joe Flacco starts, then I'm betting on the Jets. If he doesn't, then continue to bet.

Speaker 10 If Joe Flacco starts, I'll take the Jets and bet on the underdog.

Speaker 1 All right, so you're taking who?

Speaker 7 Vikings plus two.

Speaker 1 I want to switch my pick to the Jets. Yeah, I'm taking the Jets.
Jets plus two. I'm off the lines.
I want the Jets. Is this real? Yeah, Jets.
All right, so I'm taking the Jets plus 10.

Speaker 3 Okay, so Broncos are out and your Ravens are out.

Speaker 1 Correct? Yeah. Yes.
Yeah. Because you're both on the Jets.
That's the two Billy's on the Vikings. Those are officials.
Official changes. Easy.
Done with underdogs. Okay.
So, Vikings. No, Flay Late.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no. No, no.
You already switched. You don't actually like those picks.

Speaker 4 No, I love the Jets. Here's why I love the Jets.
It's going to be Snow in Buffalo, and Von Miller's out.

Speaker 4 And Mike White's finally in the division.

Speaker 1 And they won't be able to see Mike White in the snow. That's true.
So, what are the official picks? Jets. No, Billy.

Speaker 4 Billy switched his pick.

Speaker 1 Billy, you have the Vikings. Good job.
We have the Jets. All right.
Officially, Billy has the Vikings. PFT and I have the Jets.

Speaker 3 So good. Canceling Ravens and Broncos.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 look.

Speaker 1 And underdog.

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Speaker 1 Ready? Ready. Go.
Over.

Speaker 1 I've had a long season, not a lot of happiness to be found. By the time Sunday night rolls around, I'm down, bad, and despondent.
So for that reason alone, I am taking the Dolphins Chargers over.

Speaker 1 Just so I have something to root for Sunday night.

Speaker 4 It does feel like a fun over. 51 and a half.

Speaker 1 51 and a half. Me too, Hank.
Let's go. And you know why? Why? I've kind of figured out why the Chargers,

Speaker 1 when we watched that game against the Raiders and just watching Chargers games, I think the Chargers might be the worst tackling team in the NFL. They just don't tackle.

Speaker 1 Like, I feel like every Chargers game, you'll just watch guys just running around, like, broken plays, guys not being able to get tackled.

Speaker 1 I think we're going to have some big-time explosive touchdowns in this game. Give it to me.
I like it.

Speaker 4 It's also weird the whole dynamic that the Chargers have in terms of their living situation and where the team is. Right.
Like, they're the second fiddle.

Speaker 4 They're basically renting from Stan Crunky to be able to use his facility. They don't have an actual place to call their own.
People joke a lot about

Speaker 4 poverty franchises. The Chargers are just straight up poverty franchise.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm so sick of them. I'm sick of the Chargers.
I'm sick of talking about the Chargers. I'm thinking about the Chargers.
I feel bad for Justin Herbert. I think Chargers fans are sick of the Chargers.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 when you go to SoFi Stadium and you go into your locker, you know that's not even really your locker.

Speaker 1 No, it's not. And it's also just not like, I think the only thing you could change the Chargers at this point or save them is you got to move them back to San Diego.
Yes, please do.

Speaker 1 Then they become, they have an identity again. I can like them again.
All that stuff. They're lost.
They're They're just a beaten-down franchise.

Speaker 4 They've got that song. Maybe the best song in sports, the Sandygo, Super Chargers.

Speaker 1 Sandy goggles.

Speaker 4 It's a fucking banger.

Speaker 1 It is. Max.

Speaker 11 I'm going to take not a fun over Steelers Ravens.

Speaker 1 Ooh. 36 and a half.
Ooh. Max, is that right? No love lost.
37. 37.
Massachusetts, bro.

Speaker 4 Throw out the record books, Max.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, it's disgusting, but that's 37 points.

Speaker 1 points no love lost george pickens is going to get a thousand touches in this game a thousand touchdowns no just just targets touches to bet all of they have to keep him happy touches as in like trying to make one-handed catches and his fingers hit a ball yes he's going to get a lot of touches

Speaker 1 over targets over receptions over yards everything for george pickens i also think i actually i actually don't love Pickens because it's going to be Humphrey on him, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I think Humphrey's going to try to run back to the NFL. I think you're going to to force it to him because he's not, it's not going to work.

Speaker 4 Humphrey's that good that I think every he's gone up against every team's number one receiver.

Speaker 4 I think he's he limited, I forget what the exact stats are, but I think he's the best cornerback in the NFL.

Speaker 1 Listen, George Pickens is, I, I, the way I describe George Pickens, he's not a head case, I don't think, yet, yet, he's a live wire.

Speaker 1 He's a, if you touch him, you could get electrocuted, but you also could get light.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he's a live wire. I think he's passionate.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know what? You gotta need that, though, for a star wide receiver.

Speaker 4 Here's where you're at with George Pickens right now. When people see him on TV, if there's a former wide receiver in the booth, that wide receiver will be like, yeah, I always thought I was open too.

Speaker 4 Yeah. You know, like, they're on Team Pickens, but it could blow up in every level.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, people will start saying, like, he plays with an edge, which is great for this team. You need one guy who's playing with an edge.
Yeah. He's a live wire.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I like live wire because it's not a bad, it's just be careful because you don't know what could happen with a live wire. Yep.
Okay.

Speaker 4 You don't want to step over into Mercurial or Diva. No.
That's close. And then Head Case is obviously the worst.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 PFT, you're over.

Speaker 4 My over. I'm going with the Titans Jaguars.

Speaker 4 The vibe I get on this one is just.

Speaker 1 41.

Speaker 4 Yeah, there's going to be a Jaguars are going to score 26 points.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 1 I have the over with Hank.

Speaker 1 That's going to be fun, Hank.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 That is going to be like, we're going to either be really depressed or

Speaker 3 upgrade.

Speaker 1 Hungry Dog will have hit by then. Which two teams?

Speaker 1 It was going to be the Panthers. I have to change it now.
Turf the Dog just fought them on Sunday. I know.
Did you look up Turf? No, I didn't. I had three legs.

Speaker 1 I don't know what to do. If the Panthers win that game outright, I'll never forgive Turf the Dog.

Speaker 4 He fought so hard.

Speaker 1 I'll never forgive Turf the Dog.

Speaker 1 Billy. I also like the Browns.

Speaker 7 I'm taking the Buccaneers 49ers over because I feel like the 49ers are going to be like, we need to shut, like, we need to take Tom Brady out of the game in late-game scenarios and just try to keep scoring, never let off the pedal.

Speaker 7 And I think they're going to start. Brock Purdy might actually be able to make better plays than Garoppolo.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 And I think this is like a bait on based on

Speaker 7 because apparently he like yells at veterans in practice. Oh.
And one veteran was like

Speaker 7 even though he's a freshman.

Speaker 1 I mean, even though he's a a rookie like he's got command i don't know yeah he's got command even though he's a freshman everything he still got he still got invited to senior night even though he's a freshman yeah yeah 39 points

Speaker 1 goes back to high school or college

Speaker 1 uh

Speaker 1 37 by 2 37 by the way tom brady win total uh so preseason win total overs uh have been 10 0 and 2 in the last 12 seasons undefeated in the last 12 seasons if you bet tom brady's team win total over if they lose this game they lose that wow what about probably 30 win totals yet to be determined TBD

Speaker 1 I just think McCaffrey and Debo just put up a ton of points all right yeah and those guys are good those guys are very good very good uh also

Speaker 1 look up the stats is there a point where we can start saying I mean Debo's fun I love Debo

Speaker 4 Wideback.

Speaker 1 I love Debo.

Speaker 1 Is Ayuk maybe just as good?

Speaker 4 No, I don't. Ayuk's very good, but he doesn't do everything the same way.

Speaker 1 He doesn't do everything, but Ayuk's been really good, I feel like, this year.

Speaker 4 Think about this. Because Debo's been out for a little bit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and he's been banged off.

Speaker 4 I think Ayuk's been bad. I would rather have 100% Debo.

Speaker 1 No, I would agree, but I'm

Speaker 4 just saying if Brandon Ayuk was named Debo Samuel, I wouldn't really notice that much of a drop-off.

Speaker 1 All I'm saying is, I

Speaker 1 everyone's like Chris McCaffrey, George Kittle, Brandon

Speaker 1 Debo.

Speaker 1 Debo Samuel.

Speaker 1 Brandon Ayuk should probably be in that conversation more often. As being one of their, like, you know, like, this team has a ton of stud players.
Yeah. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 Giving respect to Brandon Ayuk.

Speaker 7 I'm just saying I can see the 49ers scoring at least two touchdowns, the Buccaneers scoring at least two touchdowns, and then just pepper in some field goals in there. Okay.
And that's a push.

Speaker 4 Okay. Good analysis.

Speaker 1 Boom. Brandon Ayuk.
Let me see. Since our Wi-Fi doesn't work here, I can't look it up on my fucking computer.
He's got 56 catches, 698 yards, and six touchdowns this year. That's pretty good.

Speaker 1 Pretty good.

Speaker 4 He's having a good year. He's a very, very good player.
I'm just saying, like, Debo.

Speaker 1 No, I know.

Speaker 4 I'm mostly afraid that if I show any disrespect towards Debo, that he'll actually come and murder me.

Speaker 1 No, it's Debo's the better player. That's not up for debate.
It's more Brandon Ayuk is

Speaker 1 really fucking good, and he's having a really good year as a receiver.

Speaker 4 Tip of the cap to Brandon Ayuk.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 Jake.

Speaker 3 I am taking the Vikings Lions over 52. I completely agree with what you guys are saying.
The late finish. And tell me that late finish isn't going to be in a 30-27 game.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 4 That sounds about right.

Speaker 3 Someone's driving to win 33 to 30. They go to overtime at 30 all.

Speaker 4 Maybe like a missed extra point. Both teams out there kind of give off.

Speaker 1 But then it's 27-26.

Speaker 3 That game,

Speaker 3 I'm feeling points from that game, but with the crazy finish that you guys mentioned. I like it.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Hank, finish us off with unders.

Speaker 1 Same logic as last week. It worked.

Speaker 1 Under 47 in the Bengals-Browns. I just don't think Deshaun Watson.
46 and a half. Under, really.

Speaker 1 You've already moved the line. That's sharp.

Speaker 1 I swear it was 47 like an hour ago.

Speaker 1 Deshaun Watson not in prime form. He's still warming his way up.
Going to be sloppy. They didn't score an offensive touchdown.

Speaker 1 They scored and covered, but it wasn't because of the offense. I think it's going to be the same thing this week.
They're going to struggle to possibly win.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 But Sarambe Knight, now you've got yourself twisted. I know, but definitely take the under.
46.5. Okay.

Speaker 1 Max.

Speaker 11 Cowboys, Texans.

Speaker 1 I don't see a scenario where the Texans score more than 10 points.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I see that like a 32 to 10 games.

Speaker 1 What about 44? 44.

Speaker 1 The Texans and the Hungry Dogs? Throw it all out there.

Speaker 4 It is Davis Mills' return.

Speaker 3 Plus 950.

Speaker 1 Then just do one game.

Speaker 1 Just have it be the Texans. Texans hunger dog.

Speaker 1 What's their plus? Plus 950.

Speaker 1 That's just ⁇ you just have to

Speaker 1 do that, too. You'd be like Texans and

Speaker 1 Browns. Yeah, or like Vikings.
And it would be like Texans would win and the Vikings would lose. Like, why didn't you just bet the Texans?

Speaker 1 It's a parlay. It's harder dog parlay.

Speaker 4 That's true.

Speaker 1 That is. Good counterpoint.
Factor fact. Fact.
Fact. Okay, PFT.

Speaker 4 My under is going to be the Chiefs, Broncos. Yep.
44, I believe, is what I had. Yeah, 44.

Speaker 1 Free money.

Speaker 4 Free money on that one.

Speaker 4 I just, again, goes back to Broncos didn't play their starters in the preseason, not going to score any points. And I feel like this could actually just be like

Speaker 4 17-0 is what I have it as.

Speaker 1 I originally had this over, similar to Bitcat and the Bucs. I'm betting the Broncos over until it hits.
Broncos unders are 11-1 on the season. Yeah, pretty good.

Speaker 1 The only game that went over was the Raiders overtime game. I can't remember, maybe week four, five,

Speaker 1 where there was a touchdown in overtime. But yeah, they have, and this is the highest it's been in a while.
It's usually in the 30s. It's at 44.

Speaker 1 They just play underball. Yep.
Because their defense is good and their offense stinks. PFT, do we have three out of the four? Yeah, three of the same.

Speaker 3 Maybe next week start to write it on paper.

Speaker 1 Nah, we're still.

Speaker 4 Well, also three out of four because we both got knocked on Billy.

Speaker 1 Well, he turfed on me and then Billy did that. And then we had.

Speaker 3 This is last week. You guys are neck and neck for that second place punishment.
So, which one do we have different?

Speaker 3 You're over. PFT has Jackson Talucci.
BigCot has Miami Target.

Speaker 1 Why would we collude for one of us to have to do it? That's a question we have to ask.

Speaker 1 I don't think you know what collusion means.

Speaker 1 No collusion.

Speaker 3 If there was collusion, you'd be fading each other.

Speaker 4 No collusion. That's what they watch your thing.

Speaker 1 I don't know. All right.

Speaker 1 Go with your under, Billy.

Speaker 7 I'm going with the Dolphins Chargers under. Sorry.
I took it before.

Speaker 1 Just can go with it.

Speaker 1 I had it written down before. Okay.
Collusion.

Speaker 3 So 51 and a half there, and I'm with you guys on Chiefs, Broncos under 44.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 That was a fun preview of all the games. Let's see.
Did we miss any games?

Speaker 4 Spirited debate.

Speaker 1 We didn't because there's not that many games.

Speaker 1 Let's just do real quick.

Speaker 3 I was going to say, technically, no one picked Panther Seahawks, but we talked about it.

Speaker 1 Oh, we talked about it.

Speaker 3 Because you guys have the Jets.

Speaker 1 And this is also the easiest television week we've had. There's only seven one o'clock games, and Texans Cowboys not going to be on.

Speaker 4 See ya. So what's the spread on that right now?

Speaker 1 17.5.

Speaker 4 I almost

Speaker 4 want to bet. I'm not going to take this in our competition, but I'm going to bet on the Texans.
That's a lot of points.

Speaker 3 So I was looking it up earlier.

Speaker 4 These guys get paid to be a good one.

Speaker 3 The number one spread, it varied from 26 and a half to 28, was Broncos, Jaguars, 2013, week 6.

Speaker 3 That was Peyton's peak year where they put up so many points, and the Jaguars were winless entering that game.

Speaker 4 Blaine Gabbert?

Speaker 3 Maybe.

Speaker 4 Seems like a Blaine line to me.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but PFT, you mentioned Patriots undefeated season was a lot of the top lines too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Biggest spreads.

Speaker 4 Every week, every week that season, the Patriots were like 18

Speaker 3 average. Week 12 that year was 25.

Speaker 1 Oh, what? The 2007?

Speaker 1 There was a stretch in the NFL where it was

Speaker 1 old head shit like 2004, 5, 6. Every week you just teased the Colts and the Patriots, and you won every week.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you just tease them down every week, good old days, and it was just winner every week.

Speaker 1 Okay, by the way,

Speaker 4 are the Cowboys gonna win the Super Bowl?

Speaker 4 Okay, I've started to think about that.

Speaker 1 This is the time last year, you did. I know, it pissed me off.
It pissed me off a lot. I think

Speaker 4 I think that the Dallas Cowboys might win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Max, okay, so I have a counterpoint, but I want to hear Max's. Dak stinks.
Okay, so that was good. And then my other counterpoint is: just close your eyes.
Everyone, close your eyes.

Speaker 1 Close Close your eyes. Okay.

Speaker 1 It's late January.

Speaker 1 It is

Speaker 1 22 degrees.

Speaker 4 We're at the link. I know what you're about to say.

Speaker 1 The crowd is going crazy.

Speaker 1 It's four minutes left in the third quarter.

Speaker 4 He looks pretty fat.

Speaker 1 They zoom in. Mike McCarthy could not look fast.
He looks pretty fat. And he's confused.
And you know, when you are out in the cold and you start to get a little confusion, like, is this hypothermia?

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's all.
I'm like, that's just the one thing that it's like, when everyone's like, hey, the Cowboys, because they are very, very good. I'm just like, Mike McCarthy's fat, Britain.

Speaker 4 He looks pretty fat. Now, Counterpoint,

Speaker 4 Jerry Jones has made it pretty clear that he wants to win another Super Bowl before he dies. Oh, okay.

Speaker 4 Which makes me truly believe that the second they win a Super Bowl, like, he's going to die the offseason. I think Jerry Jones is ready to die.

Speaker 1 He's ready to go.

Speaker 4 I honestly think that he's like made

Speaker 4 he's my dude. Jerry Jones is walking around all day saying things that somebody that wants to die would say.

Speaker 1 Rich people never want to die.

Speaker 4 You don't write a check twice a month to Mike McCarthy and not want to die afterwards.

Speaker 1 He wants to live forever.

Speaker 4 He is ready to die. And I'm telling you, I think he might will this team to win a Super Bowl so that he can finally just pass away.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 4 I'm just considering it.

Speaker 1 Okay. I mean, they're good.
They're very good.

Speaker 1 And I'd be very mad because I did that big future last year, and Michael Gallup tore his ACL, ACL, and then Jerry Jones, or sorry, Mike McCarthy ran run play.

Speaker 1 What was that a run play at the end of the game?

Speaker 4 13 seconds left in the game, and he did a quarterback draw, right?

Speaker 1 And they weren't able to spot the ball. Yeah, so that would bother me.

Speaker 4 But you see other NFC teams, besides the Eagles, no disrespect to you, Max, but other NFC teams seem to all have a big glaring weakness in them.

Speaker 1 Well, it's wide open. If you want to talk at the bar

Speaker 1 people this month, NFC is wide open.

Speaker 4 You know who can fit through a pretty wide hole.

Speaker 1 Yep, Mike McCarthy. Big fat Mike McCarthy.
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Speaker 1 Yo, yo, what up? What up, you fuck? Hello. It's name.
My name is Ronnie Noki. Ronnie Noki.
What it do, what it do. What it do, brother.
My statum is the merchant of death.

Speaker 4 Oh, you took mine.

Speaker 1 fit of a Deshaun Watson situation, but if you're in a dynasty murder league and you like value, he's a guy you got to pick up. He's a guy you got to look at.
We got fleeced. We got fleeced.

Speaker 4 We got to send Howie overseas next. Howie would never happen to him.
He come back with picks.

Speaker 9 It's actually me, Victor.

Speaker 1 My sidem

Speaker 1 is Lionel Messi.

Speaker 1 Lionel?

Speaker 16 Shoved guy.

Speaker 1 This is the time of the year. Talking about Jeffrey Dahmer's dad? He's due for a choke in the fucking World Cup.
He's not my goat.

Speaker 4 You don't know shit about him.

Speaker 1 He's about to put up a big fat goose egg and they're going down.

Speaker 4 You don't know shit about shit on the side.

Speaker 4 This is in tribute to our touching favorite friend, Diego Maradonna. Passed away two years ago.
We're wearing the jerseys with the white lines on them, just for him.

Speaker 1 And my sleeper is Blake Griffin. Blake of the year.
Sixth man of the year. I'm starting the campaign.
Let's get it going.

Speaker 4 He's been awesome.

Speaker 1 He's been unbelievable. Celtics are the best team in the entire NBA.
They just smoked the suns. Blake's playing a pivotal role.

Speaker 4 It's beautiful to see.

Speaker 1 He's sixth man of the year. Let's get it going.
Let's help our guy out.

Speaker 4 But wait, Hank, did he just start the other night?

Speaker 1 Yeah, but he's, you know, he's playing. That's that's the role he's playing.
I don't think he's gonna win, you know, MVP, so let's get him the sixth man. Let's get him some hardware.
Hardware.

Speaker 1 Hell yeah. Yeah, fuck yeah.
I don't think you guys are into that. What the fuck? No, I like that.
You don't care about Blake. I like better more.
You love Blake? A better one would be Blake and

Speaker 4 what's up, you dickheads? It's Tommy Tortorelli.

Speaker 4 This week, I'm starting Christmas trees. Yeah, that's right.
It's that time of year again. Every corner's got a Christmas tree stand on it.

Speaker 1 Take my advice. Tell them Tommy sent you.

Speaker 4 Get the Fraser fur. That's the Cadillac of Christmas trees.
The best Christmas tree there's ever been. There's no improving on the Fraser fur.
You come home with a Douglas fur? I send it back.

Speaker 1 Fuck yeah, send it back, bitch.

Speaker 4 I'm sitting Jason Garrett. Jason Garrett, old stand there and clap, little red-headed ginger nightmare, getting the interview out at Stanford University.

Speaker 1 The Ivy League of the Bay Area.

Speaker 4 Your bum. He's a bum.

Speaker 4 He's a bum. He's always been a bum.
He was a bum when he was a coach. He was a bum when he was a player.
Now they're trying to get him out coaching college football. He's a bum.
B-U-M. He's a bum.

Speaker 1 What's though? Go ahead, you got one more. He's a bum.

Speaker 1 B-U-M.

Speaker 4 B-U-M. B-U-M.
My sleeper, it was going to be the merchant of death, the god of death.

Speaker 1 Great value.

Speaker 4 Yeah, fuck that guy.

Speaker 1 Guys, a piece of we got fleeced uh them picks that's what joe biden said yeah all right what's up fucks tony baloney back at it my sodom is rough and rowdy rough and rowdy providence rhode island tonight 8 p.m gonna be sick heard someone singing the national anthem we're gonna have pac-man jones versus bobby lang grace o'malley versus who gives a fuck she's gonna bury that bitch It's gonna be great.

Speaker 1 Check it out. Fights all night long.
My sitem is...

Speaker 1 Fuck, i forgot my sitem it was in my brain i've already forgot it oh the fucks who take the under in army navy i'm taking the over it's my personal challenge bet of the year i've lost it 15 years in a row over 32 and a half army navy do it i still think i still think they should wait to announce the top four teams until after this game yeah because you never know you never know my sleeper is turf the dog

Speaker 4 I hope that you lay easy and we're gonna out of respect we're not gonna bet the pit i oh if you happen to see if you if you check out turf the dog's twitter profile where he wrote uh essentially a note uh notes app for dying it's a picture of him like in the turf it's pretty spooky this dog's really dead whoa

Speaker 16 hey what's up guys it's victor vault hey thank you

Speaker 9 i'm free welcome home i'm free now yes you're not up to any year old tricks i am uh no no no more merchant of death But uh, yes, my starter is AK-47. Yes, bestseller everywhere.

Speaker 9 Best seller, no more sell anymore but back in the day bestseller it's a good guy my sithum geneva convention always gets in the way of business never liked it never will

Speaker 9 and my sleeper is women's basketball in america turns out very very popular i like it i like it i like that they uh value it so much uh thank you for freedom

Speaker 4 Yes, it is kind of crazy. Like, I feel bad for Brittany Griner that, like, the headlines are, she got traded for the merchant of death.

Speaker 4 Like, what a terrible nickname for somebody to be exchanged for i'm always gonna pipe put that through like the trade value chart and be like merchant of death you needed at least like five more names and cash considerations yes i that

Speaker 4 it is all time like you got fleeced yeah it's a fleece it's a fleece movie i'm glad brittany grinder's coming back home good for her good for her family but you can't get traded for a guy named the merchant of death i know I know.

Speaker 1 I did see one reply. This is a very Billy football type thing to say.
I saw a Twitter reply and the guy was like, They hand out nicknames like merchant of death all over the place in Russia.

Speaker 1 There's like a million of those. Yeah.
So I was like, oh, okay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I just took it as facts. That's great.

Speaker 1 That's great reconnaissance.

Speaker 1 That is great. They're like, dude, every guy

Speaker 1 who deals like one pistol is the merchant of death.

Speaker 4 I saw a reply that said, you can't trade a shooter for a big in today's game. That was a good one, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that is pretty good.

Speaker 7 I know that a lot of people are making jokes, but I did hear there was like, might be, it might help in future exchanges.

Speaker 7 Oh, really? Like, when we might get future picks type of thing.

Speaker 1 Oh, like a player to be named later?

Speaker 4 Yeah, like just out of the goodness of Putin's.

Speaker 1 I would have.

Speaker 4 And Putin's got the Jimmy Johnson draft grade value in front of him?

Speaker 7 Like, it just might have been for the optics to make Russia look like they fleeced the U.S.

Speaker 4 Could we just, hypothetically, could we send anybody over in that exchange, or would it have to be a prisoner?

Speaker 1 I think it's a prisoner.

Speaker 4 Could we give him El Chapo?

Speaker 1 Oh, like we'll include El Chapo. No, I think it's a good idea.
They'd have way too much fun.

Speaker 4 Yeah, or just like give him Russell Wilson.

Speaker 4 You also get this citizen.

Speaker 1 I would have liked it to be a two-for-one.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that'd be nice. Just to make us feel like we flee them.

Speaker 1 Marine dudes. Like, go, hey, we got a couple.

Speaker 1 Now we have a couple positions we can fill. Yeah.
You know, whatever.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah, bye-rough rowdy.

Speaker 1 Providence, 8 p.m. What are you going to say? Rushmore, too.
Oh, Mount Rushmore. All right, let's go, boys.

Speaker 1 We were very unlucky last week. Yep.
Kenneth Walker got hurt.

Speaker 1 We were cruising along. He even had like a 35-yard run to start the game.

Speaker 1 We were fucked. So we got fucked.
What do we want to do this week, boys? We got to win. We haven't won in a couple weeks.
Let's win. I'm going to go Christian McCaffrey.

Speaker 1 Tony Pollard's easy.

Speaker 4 Okay, so I was thinking about that, big cat. What if we did both?

Speaker 1 Yes. Pollard and Elliott.
Tony Pollard, Ezekiel Elliott. Both of them in there.
Yep.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 I kind of like that. I think the odds will probably be better.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I kind of like that a lot.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 7 King Henry. Derrick Henry.

Speaker 1 Okay, and then what was yours, Hank? McCaffrey. McCaffrey, Derrick Henry.
I think, is the Bucs rush defense good?

Speaker 1 It's Chris McCaffrey. Oh, okay, yeah, no problem.
David, look at Debo, too.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And Brandon Ayuk. Yeah.
We got it. And Juice Check.
We're good. I think he's going to run a lot.
He's not. It's not going to be passing.
I think we all run.

Speaker 4 Hank's just mad at Billy for pointing out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's 66 on Tom Brady here.

Speaker 3 McCaffrey.

Speaker 1 66 last week, but he's in the 30s And the three games before. What? Wait, is 66 more? What was the three games before?

Speaker 3 So since he's been with the 49ers, 38, 94, 38, 39, 32, 66. So it's basically 50%.

Speaker 1 Two for six.

Speaker 1 All right, let's go. Let's ride.
It's right there. It's Mount Rushmore.
Let's ride.

Speaker 3 That should be a good odds one, too.

Speaker 1 Let's all get in this together.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's get to our interviews. We've got Alex Bregman, then Max Duggan after.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on recurring guest, friend of the program, World Series champion. He already was a World Series champion, but now he's a two-time World Series champion.

Speaker 1 It is Alex Bregman from the Houston Astros.

Speaker 1 Thanks for coming on, dude. Congratulations, belated congratulations.
I would hope that

Speaker 1 the glow subsided?

Speaker 1 Are you already like, oh, next year, we got to be ready for next year?

Speaker 1 Are you enjoying the fact that you won the championship again?

Speaker 17 I think we've kind of ready for next year, to be honest with you. All the guys are fired up.

Speaker 17 We were just all in there today working out, talking about next year and how we feel like we got another good chance to do it again. So

Speaker 17 for the most part, I think we've moved on, but

Speaker 17 we're still celebrating off and on together this weekend.

Speaker 17 We're actually going to Vegas to celebrate a little bit. So the guys are using it.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 4 I was curious, like, if you go on a deep postseason run, doesn't it kind of stink a little bit like you don't really get that much of an offseason?

Speaker 4 How much time do you get not just away from baseball, but just away from working out and doing all that dumb stuff and get to just hang out?

Speaker 17 No, you're right.

Speaker 17 The last, honestly, six years, we've gone pretty deep into the postseason. So we've probably missed out on a month, month and a half.

Speaker 17 But this year was different because the lockout, it pushed everything back so we we pretty much played until almost thanksgiving so there was really no downtime maybe two weeks this year we popped up to nashville for the cmas kentucky to go see a few of our horses then it was back to the gym oh wait where were your horses running oh actually

Speaker 1 yeah now my now my memory is refreshed you banged me alex What happened?

Speaker 1 You texted Dave

Speaker 1 a pick

Speaker 1 for the the Breeders. I was there.
I think you were on the plane

Speaker 1 in between games, and you were like, hey, I like this horse here. And it sucked.

Speaker 17 Oh, dude. Honestly,

Speaker 17 the whole horse racing business has been awesome, to be honest with you. We have 14 horses now.
We have some in Kentucky, some in Florida, but the Breeders' Cup was incredible.

Speaker 17 I saw you guys were there and having a blast. And, dude, that's my bad.

Speaker 17 I honestly was just, I was fired up to just watch Flightline, to be honest with you. That was incredible.

Speaker 1 Best horse ever. Maybe ever.
And yeah, no,

Speaker 1 now that I'm thinking about it, that sucked because when you send a text to someone being like, hey, this horse, you know horses, obviously. We all were like, oh, okay, Bregman liked this horse.

Speaker 1 Like, fuck. All right.
And then, yeah, so we weren't having fun after that race.

Speaker 17 Yeah, no, it's tough. It's honestly a game of failure.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, it's crazy.
So wait, so you own 14 horses? What's the,

Speaker 1 do you have any that are like going to be in some big time races? Who do you own them with?

Speaker 17 I think so.

Speaker 17 Hopefully this next year we can have one run in some big time races.

Speaker 17 Well, this is our first crop. So we'll have our...

Speaker 17 this will be our first year of three-year-olds and that's when the the whole derby circuit goes on so um we have one that's out in california right now he's unraced but we think that he is uh the real deal so uh hopefully

Speaker 17 we'll be watching him run on the first Saturday in May in Kentucky. But his name's Golden Sombrero.
Baseball means four strikeouts. I know you guys know that.
So

Speaker 17 four strikeouts in baseball, not really a good thing. So we went with the reverse psychology.
Hopefully he'll win the triple crown in the Breeders' Cup.

Speaker 1 That's a great horse name. You should have told me the horse's name because now I'm going to bet on it and it's going to lose.
So that horse is done. Just it's

Speaker 1 put it out to pasture. That horse has no future.

Speaker 17 Well, we got a a few more. Hopefully, they can win.

Speaker 1 Yeah, don't tell me those names.

Speaker 4 I like how your Surefire horse is one that has literally never raced yet, but you're like, trust me, this guy,

Speaker 1 he looks fast.

Speaker 17 I'm telling you,

Speaker 17 we've had a few that have won so far,

Speaker 17 but

Speaker 17 this guy's the real deal.

Speaker 1 Okay, so we also got to mention you have a new beef jerky line, right? So Breggie bombs, salsa, BBQ sauce. So what, I mean, I love beef jerky.

Speaker 1 You haven't sent us any.

Speaker 1 That's bad job on your part. But

Speaker 1 tell me about the beef jerky because I do love beef jerky. And why did you get like, why are you like, beef jerky is my thing?

Speaker 17 Well, this is different kind of beef jerky. I feel like this is, this is like, I don't even, I don't like beef jerky, but I like this beef jerky.
This is some of the best stuff you'll ever find.

Speaker 17 I think it's the best beef jerky around. It's wagyu.
It's honestly, it doesn't have, when I'm growing up, I don't, I'm like, I smell beef jerky. I'm like, oh, get that out of the the car.

Speaker 17 But this stuff is like elite, high quality beef jerky. It's awesome.
We got barbecue sauces, rubs. We started with salsas a while back,

Speaker 17 but I think the barbecue and the beef jerky is like that elite level to where it's not just a.

Speaker 17 a fun thing to do. This is like stuff that people go buy and try and keep buying because it's awesome.
It's the best you can find. Our barbecue team

Speaker 17 actually finished third at the cookoff in nationals.

Speaker 17 So we got third place in the nation at the largest cookoff in kansas city so um it's been uh it's been pretty fun to do and i'm definitely going to send you guys some uh some some some jerky some some sauces some rubs and i'm going to send somebody this glove that i uh wore all year during practice uh sign and everything uh to whoever goes on to our website reggibom.com and uh orders some sauces and rubs um here before uh before christmas i'm going to pick somebody random send it out to them and uh yeah thank thank you guys for shouting us out on the show.

Speaker 1 That's awesome. BreggieBomb.com, go check it out.

Speaker 4 I do love beef jerky and Bill Tong as well, like the South African beef jerky. That sounds like it's like what you're doing, like a more tender beef jerky.
You got beef jerky, you got barbecue.

Speaker 4 How much, I mean, it sounds like basically like the Astros' history, which is like just get guys whose last names start with the letter B and they'll do really well.

Speaker 4 You're just heavily invested in any food product that starts with a B.

Speaker 17 Yeah, yep, Barbecue, beef, jerky. I guess you could go barbecue rubs.

Speaker 17 But yeah,

Speaker 17 it's been fun to start and fun to do, and I guarantee y'all, y'all will like it.

Speaker 1 So we got a couple of important things we got to get to here. The first one, our producer, Max, is a diehard Phillies fan.

Speaker 1 Just walk me through game three when you guys let up like a billion bombs. Max thought it was over.
He thought the Phillies had won the World Series. It was over.
He was yelling said everywhere.

Speaker 1 Did you guys, like, I thought that was the most impressive part about your team this year? It's like, you guys were just nails. Like,

Speaker 1 when the going gets tough, like, unflappable, you know, that didn't even bother you. You went out and won, you know, those games in Philly after.
So tell Max, like, was he stupid to even think that

Speaker 1 this World Series is over after game three? Because he had raised the banner. He was like, that was the best day of my life.
It was over.

Speaker 1 It was over. It was over.
over. I still think that we should win this series.

Speaker 17 So we were in kind of a similar situation. We went to Washington and won three in a row.
We came home in 19

Speaker 17 with two games and one to win to win the World Series. And we were like, oh, we're going home.
We're going to do this. And

Speaker 17 they had elite pitching, Max Scherzer, Steven Strasberg, two locked down dudes.

Speaker 17 And I think one of the things that made our team be able to bounce back so quickly after a loss this year was how good the pitching staff was. You had Christian Javier go out the next night and

Speaker 17 throw six no hit innings. Our bullpen was incredible during the postseason.
Presley and Abreu, I think, combined 19 scoreless innings.

Speaker 17 It was one of the best runs of a bullpen I've ever seen in playoff baseball. And we knew that Every single night, one of our starters could give us a chance to win a game.
And when you get down,

Speaker 17 when you lose game one,

Speaker 17 the way we lost game one,

Speaker 17 that was tough to bounce back from. And then Framer came and pitched really well.
And then we lost game three and Javier gave us a huge start. And then once JV

Speaker 17 got us game five,

Speaker 17 going back home, we were like,

Speaker 17 we need to finish the job here this time.

Speaker 17 We can't let it get to a game seven like we had

Speaker 17 in

Speaker 17 2019 and go there. So it was good to win that game.
And Alvarez's home run was insane, dude.

Speaker 1 So insane. Was game four a no-hitter? Because Max thinks it's not a no-hitter.

Speaker 17 Definitely a no-hitter.

Speaker 1 Yep. They got no hits.
Combined no hitter.

Speaker 11 Fake ass no-hitter.

Speaker 14 It doesn't count.

Speaker 17 Hey, if they would have thrown a combined one, he knows he would have been like, oh, no hitter.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, he was after he was like, it wasn't a no-hitter.
And PFT and I were just like, well, did you get any hits? He's like, no.

Speaker 1 It's different.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 it's a combined no-hitter doesn't have the same thing.

Speaker 4 I feel like you still don't understand the fact that there were zero hits.

Speaker 1 Zero hits.

Speaker 1 Did you get it?

Speaker 4 Do you want me to pull up the box score again?

Speaker 1 I get it. Do you?

Speaker 11 But like, the Doc Holiday playoff no-hitter is different than that.

Speaker 17 It's pretty crazy. Javier threw another combined no-hitter earlier in the year at Yankee Stadium.
So that was her second one of the year.

Speaker 1 And I mean, the sky's the limit.

Speaker 1 He didn't throw the no-hitter. The team did.

Speaker 4 Alex, you brought up the World Series against the Nationals. Do you remember when Juan Soto hit that ball and it's probably still up on the railroad track out in left field?

Speaker 17 Oh, I remember it. I remember it.

Speaker 17 I can't not forget it. I hit a homer and carried my bat like an idiot.
Then he hit a homer and was like, hey, I'm going to carry mine too.

Speaker 17 I still remember that. It still goes through my head in my nightmares all the time.

Speaker 4 That was a great moment in postseason history because people got mad at you for carrying your bat. They're like, look at this asshole.

Speaker 4 And then right afterwards, Juan Soto did it and he carried his bat like farther than you. And then everybody was like, okay, this is fun now.
They're not taking it like too seriously.

Speaker 4 They're not trying to fight each other. It's just guys having fun, just mashing taters.

Speaker 4 That was an awesome postseason for me particularly because I'm a Nats fan. But

Speaker 4 that showed me like, okay, it can be fun to pimp home runs sometimes. It's not always like some guy coming at another guy's throat.

Speaker 17 Yeah,

Speaker 17 I don't think either of them were meant to show anybody any show anybody up. It was more so just having fun,

Speaker 17 trying to have fun playing the game that we love in the postseason. But he definitely got the upper hand on me on that one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that ball is still going.

Speaker 4 So I was curious because one of my favorite parts of the World Series this year was when Kyle Schwarber stole second base and everybody in America got a taco.

Speaker 4 Was there like a small part of you watching Schwarber steal second and you were like, okay, that was pretty cool.

Speaker 17 No, yeah, for sure. That was dope.
And it's like a guy that is not like, he's like a sneaky stolen base threat, too. Like he's a, he's a smart ball player.
So he can, he can like pick pitches to go.

Speaker 17 And like, if, if people were thinking about who was going to steal the base, it definitely would have been someone, like you would have thought, like, maybe Kyle Tucker or somebody like that who's gotten a ton of bags all year.

Speaker 17 Um, but when Schwarber stole it, it was pretty cool.

Speaker 1 What, what about when, I mean, I love Schwarber. I'm a Cubs fan, and he's just my favorite, even though he's been like five different places since.

Speaker 1 Is there any, yeah, is there any

Speaker 1 when you're on the field and he hits a home run,

Speaker 1 like, is there any part of you? Obviously, it sucks because you're playing against him, but is there any part of you like, holy fuck, that was sick?

Speaker 17 No, 100%.

Speaker 17 Honestly, even watching it on TV, it's pretty badass. The one that I saw him hitting, the one I saw him hit in San Diego, that ball is the furthest ball I've ever seen hit

Speaker 17 in a baseball stadium in the big leagues.

Speaker 17 I don't, I've played in San Diego multiple times. I don't know if I've ever seen a ball even come close to going that far.
So

Speaker 17 I actually played with Shorb in Team USA in college, and he's an awesome dude.

Speaker 1 He's awesome.

Speaker 1 He's like everything you'd expect to be just watching him play baseball. That's his personality.
Like just a guys guy who just likes to fucking mash taters.

Speaker 17 Hit bombs and have fun, have a good time. Yeah, great.

Speaker 1 All right. Other big, important thing that we need to discuss.

Speaker 1 Stephen Shea, your fantasy football commissioner. So you are part of the fantasy football league that, for everyone who doesn't remember, the famous Jock Peterson,

Speaker 1 who was it, Tommy Pham? Yeah, yeah, Tommy Pham.

Speaker 1 Were you part of the league then?

Speaker 17 I was. I won it that year.

Speaker 1 Okay, so tell us from your perspective,

Speaker 1 was there anything that was done that was uncouth in terms of fantasy football rules and standards between the two of them that led to that moment?

Speaker 1 Did you think it would ever lead to a slapping in center field?

Speaker 17 So

Speaker 17 I wasn't really paying attention that much to what was going on on people's benches. I'm the guy in the fantasy league that like hits the trade button 24-7 and tries to send a bunch of trades.

Speaker 17 I think I actually pissed off Portnoy with how many trades I've sent him this year.

Speaker 17 But I don't know. I don't know that I didn't read the rules.

Speaker 17 I was more worried about the four-point quarterback touchdown and six-point quarterback touchdown because I drafted all running backs and I drafted my quarterback in the 13th round that year.

Speaker 17 So I was like,

Speaker 17 I don't want you guys to change the rules mid-season.

Speaker 17 Now, I don't know. Can't tell you, but I do know that Che, he's doing an okay job.

Speaker 17 I'm giving him a B plus.

Speaker 1 So tell me your perspective of Che, because I don't know. Like, I, I work very closely with Che.
I'm kind of his mentor for better or worse.

Speaker 1 Like, he, he actually treats me like I'm his father sometimes. Like, he'll, if he has an emergency at his house, he'll call me and I'm like, what do you want me to do, dude?

Speaker 1 But so I know his brain very well. I'm very interested what everyone in the group chat because Che doesn't even know, he doesn't know, he didn't know who Mike Trout was.

Speaker 1 He doesn't know anything about baseball. He only watches football.
Like, what is your like just reaction to how he operates and just how his brain works?

Speaker 17 No, he's been great. He's uh, he's on top of it 24-7.
I feel like he is like the most on top of being the commissioner

Speaker 17 of any commissioner we've ever had. He's been awesome.

Speaker 17 I think he kind of screwed me up this year. I was in first place last year, ran away with it.
And this year, he told me that my strategy of drafting all running backs to start was terrible.

Speaker 17 I needed to draft all receivers, take one running back. So I blame him for the reason why I'm one in 12 right now and

Speaker 17 can't score over 100 points a week.

Speaker 1 That's tough. You're one in 12? How is that possible?

Speaker 17 I'm a donation. I'm a donation is what I am.

Speaker 4 Have you reached the point of the season where you just gave up? And are you still setting your lineups?

Speaker 17 Oh, I'm setting my lineup just because I don't want to let Marisnik beat me or

Speaker 17 let Trout get me, but it's been bad.

Speaker 1 It's been bad. They still got you.
Yeah, they still 1-12.

Speaker 4 1-12 is hard to do.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 4 when you saw the incident go down, when the slap happened,

Speaker 4 were you immediately, did you understand this is definitely because of that gif that he sent in the group chat?

Speaker 17 I didn't know at first, but then quickly, like, I found out. Yeah, I found out and I was like, oh my gosh.

Speaker 4 Would you say that gift was over the line, or was it like fair play when it comes to Smack Talk?

Speaker 17 I don't know.

Speaker 17 I think it was fair.

Speaker 17 I think when you're talking Smack, the boys, it's all fair play.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, it's a GIF.
Yeah. What's the weirdest thing that Stephen Shea has done in the text group, like, where he does think he's one of the boys?

Speaker 1 Because it's just such a funny thing to think of this guy who works at Barstool, who just recently became full-time content, is on a text chain with some of the best baseball players in the world, and he doesn't know who the hell you guys are.

Speaker 1 And he's probably texting you guys being like, remember to waiver wires this time and remember to set your lineups and all that stuff. Has he done anything?

Speaker 1 Everyone's like, who the hell is this guy?

Speaker 17 Oh, bro. He's been, he's, uh, he's on top of it.
He's texting waivers are set this at this time. Trade deadlines now.
Make sure you get your final trades in.

Speaker 17 As soon as I send a trade and it's accepted, he calls, he'll send a fake, it will do a FaceTime call with me and that guy, making sure that we're not doing anything wrong.

Speaker 1 Like, say, oh, like,

Speaker 17 it's crazy. Like, he is like the most on top of his job I've ever seen of a commissioner.
And he'll, he'll blow up anybody in the chat, too. He'll tell anybody what's going on.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so who's in first place in the league right now?

Speaker 17 Well, Will Myers. Will Myers has solidified the, I think he solidified the one seed.

Speaker 17 Marisnik's calling me telling me that I need to make sure I beat Bustakis this week so he can get a first round buy.

Speaker 17 But no, it's been a lot different. This is my first year not making the playoffs in the league.
We've been doing this for a few years now.

Speaker 4 There's got to be a punishment, right, for last place.

Speaker 17 Well, there was. There last year,

Speaker 17 but this year, I guess they didn't do a punishment. I guess I lucked out.
I don't know, like, my family league, you got to go take the ACT if you come and laugh.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 17 that's like

Speaker 17 it's yeah, there's got to be some sort of punishment moving forward.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 4 tattoo, yeah, should be

Speaker 4 a tattoo, should get a tattoo

Speaker 4 try to rip your shirt off. You should be like, No, I got a new tattoo

Speaker 17 of Shea right here.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 I would rather die. I would rather, rather die.

Speaker 1 What are your thoughts on LSU football this year? It's kind of a kind of a weird year. It was like roller coaster where it started bad and then it got really, really good, ended kind of bad.

Speaker 1 Because I know you're a die-hard LSU guy.

Speaker 1 Is there a small party that maybe misses Coach O? Because we do. Just a small part.

Speaker 17 I like Coach O a lot,

Speaker 17 but I think Kelly's done an unbelievable job, to be honest with you.

Speaker 17 I think that team was, everyone was saying, oh, they're going to win one game.

Speaker 17 I think they polled the SEC reporters and said, hey,

Speaker 17 LSU is going to finish last in the West.

Speaker 17 But just, I think if you beat, honestly, even you beat Bama in a season, it's a successful season.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 4 LSU is, it strikes me as like one of the top five baseball schools in the country, too. And there's a lot of places that don't really celebrate college baseball that much.
It's not a focus.

Speaker 4 Where would you put like

Speaker 4 LSU amongst all the other places that you've played in college baseball?

Speaker 17 I mean, it's number one for me. It's crazy.

Speaker 17 I feel like if you play baseball at LSU, you're treated just unbelievably well.

Speaker 17 They have... They have one of the, this year's team, I was talking to somebody who's a scout in the region.

Speaker 17 They said this year's LSU baseball team is the most talented team they've ever seen on a college baseball field. So,

Speaker 17 I mean, those guys are treated like royalty there, and it's awesome.

Speaker 17 There's no professional baseball team there. So, I think Louisiana is kind of like split halfway down the middle, like Braves fans and Stroh's fans.
So,

Speaker 17 but everyone in Louisiana is an LSU fan.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Who we always love to ask this question:

Speaker 1 who's the hardest pitcher to face right now?

Speaker 17 That's that's tough. Um,

Speaker 17 toughest guy, I think, to face is probably Lazaiga from

Speaker 17 the Yankees. Um, that is uh, elite stuff.
Um, I mean, he's he's really, really good. Um,

Speaker 17 Wheeler was unbelievable in the World Series.

Speaker 17 Uh, Wheeler throws two different types of fastballs: this four-seamer that kind of just explodes out of his hand, and the two-seamer that gets all the way to the plate and then takes off in on your hand.

Speaker 17 So, um,

Speaker 17 those two guys were two of the guys that stood out during the postseason.

Speaker 17 I don't know. There's so I mean, everyone has such elite stuff now.
Everyone's throwing 99 with 20 inches of run or 20 inches of vertical

Speaker 17 hop on their fastball. So

Speaker 17 there's a lot of guys, but those are the two guys I feel like were the toughest to hit this postseason for me.

Speaker 1 So knowing everyone throws that hard, does it fuck you up when like you face a guy?

Speaker 1 I don't know if you've, I think you've faced Kyle Hendricks, maybe not, but like someone like him who's throwing in the 80s.

Speaker 1 Like, is that now almost an advantage for the guys who have great command and throw in the 80s when you see all you're seeing is like 100 mile an hour fastballs all week, and then you get a guy starting who's throwing 15 miles an hour slower?

Speaker 1 Is that it? Does it mess up your eye, or is it like, oh, this is nice, I get a break?

Speaker 17 I think it's a little bit of both, but certainly the guys that can put it where they want it

Speaker 17 are way tougher to hit than guys that kind of just spray the zone. So facing a guy like Kyle Hendrix or

Speaker 17 maybe Tommy Malone from Seattle, who has a really good changeup, guys like that are tough, especially after you've seen someone throwing 100.

Speaker 17 And then right after you face them, you go back to facing somebody throwing 100. So it kind of messes a little bit with.
with your timing. So

Speaker 17 I don't know.

Speaker 17 I think guys you can put it where they want it are the toughest ones to to hit in the game.

Speaker 4 What about a knuckleballer?

Speaker 17 Ooh, I think I'm like 0 for 4 off knuckleballers. I faced R.A.
Dickey a few times when I came into the league and it wasn't pretty.

Speaker 4 It's your kryptonite. I've heard that like in high humidity situations, which would make sense in Houston that the knuckleball knuckles a little bit more.
Like

Speaker 4 weather has a big impact on it.

Speaker 17 Probably just because I feel like knuckleball guys don't want any rotation on the baseball. So I feel like Houston

Speaker 17 places at sea level, um, yeah, like you said, but yeah, it's definitely my cryptonite, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 Um, so Dusty Baker, I feel like we were all rooting for Dusty, even if you're not an Astros fan, you wanted to see Dusty uh get a World Series.

Speaker 4 Max is shaking his head, Max, you're just a you're you're a grump, dude. Dusty Baker's, he's a legend.
Uh, I loved his dugout look with a toothpick and the black gloves on.

Speaker 4 What was Dusty like after you guys won? Was he crying? Was uh, what was the mood like around him?

Speaker 17 Dusty was ready to ready to party, He was fired up. He was ready to go into the clubhouse, pop some champagne

Speaker 17 and have a good time.

Speaker 17 I think, honestly,

Speaker 17 it was so cool to be on the team that had him win his first one.

Speaker 17 He has been unbelievable. He's won so many games in the big leagues, won so many playoff games.

Speaker 17 Honestly, I was so fired up for Dusty. He's a great, great manager, great guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was a very cool moment. Okay, so I have one last question.

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Speaker 1 Last question. Now, I'm not a creep.

Speaker 1 Dad to dad, I have two kids.

Speaker 1 You just had a child, but we are gamblers. I looked it up.
So I think your child was born August 2nd.

Speaker 1 You hit first. Okay.

Speaker 1 You hit 390 the five games afterwards.

Speaker 1 Your average this year was 259.

Speaker 1 We always talk about the baby bump.

Speaker 1 When a player, any sport has a baby, they start to perform well for a little period of time after. Is that real? Like, it clearly shows in your stats.
I looked it up.

Speaker 1 Five games after you hit 390, career or average this year was 259.

Speaker 1 What happened there? Tell us so that we can now, because we've been using it anecdotally, tell us the science behind it.

Speaker 17 Honestly, I think for me,

Speaker 17 when Reagan and I had Knox,

Speaker 17 he kind of put things into perspective for us, told us what really mattered in the world. And

Speaker 17 it was really cool. It was an awesome experience to be able to have your first child.
And I feel like it just kind of...

Speaker 17 Mentally, you don't care if you go to the ballpark and go over four

Speaker 17 after the game because you're going home to your son. So you leave it all out in the field and then you're able to flush things a lot easier.

Speaker 17 So for me, I think it just simplified life, simplified what's really important in the world to me and what I care about and what makes me go. So

Speaker 17 I don't know. I think he definitely had a big

Speaker 17 impact on that five games, the second half of the season, the playoffs,

Speaker 17 and hopefully

Speaker 17 the next 12 years of this career.

Speaker 4 You got to have another kid. You got to have another kid.
He has one every single season.

Speaker 17 that's that's how it's gotta work i told i told reagan i said let's go let's start getting them rolling let's go did you know that you played a little well like a little bit better after

Speaker 1 oh yeah oh okay okay

Speaker 17 it was a it was a good it was a good it was a good second half uh it was a good second half of the season and postseason and uh i think probably my my best postseason of my career so it was uh It was awesome and it was awesome to have him there come on come to Seattle, come to New York, go to Philly,

Speaker 17 come come down on the field, take photos with him. It was, I mean, I'll remember it for the rest of my life.

Speaker 1 And he'll remember it for the rest of his life, too.

Speaker 4 I got to imagine that also just like all your teammates are pumped for you, right? You're in a good environment because they're excited that you had a kid.

Speaker 1 They're like, great job having sex.

Speaker 1 Congrats.

Speaker 4 My last, last question. The Seattle game this year.
18 innings. You were bored as shit by the end of it, right? That was boring.
Was it boring for you?

Speaker 4 it was boring for us to play in an 18 inning scoreless game dude honestly it was like uh

Speaker 17 shoot what is it it was like watching uh watching something on tv that like just never ends and you're like you know like your eyes are getting like bloodshot from just watching the tv screen forever it was like is anyone gonna score here like let's go let's get this let's get let's get some runs on the board um

Speaker 17 but uh that's what happens when you got probably two of the best pitching staffs in the game going at it so

Speaker 1 I was pumped.

Speaker 17 I was locked in the whole time.

Speaker 17 I was trying to, we didn't want to go on to game four. We wanted to win it in game three.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so you guys were like taking it seriously.

Speaker 4 There wasn't like a lot of joking around, keeping people loose. Because me personally, I don't think I'd be able to be focused for that long on such a boring game.

Speaker 17 What would you be doing?

Speaker 1 I was watching football. I had you on a different screen.
I had you on the bottom screen.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'd probably just go in the clubhouse and crack a beer after 12 innings.

Speaker 1 How many innings were you like, this is the inning? Because

Speaker 1 that would be my downfall. Because

Speaker 1 I'm the optimist gambler where it's like, yep, this is our inning. And you go in the clubhouse, you're like, guys, this is the inning.
And it doesn't happen. Did you have to stop doing that?

Speaker 17 Oh, bro. Every inning that we got again on base, we're like, all right, we're going to win it right here.
And then it'd be like,

Speaker 17 all right, let's go play defense. And then they'd get three, they'd load the bases up and we'd get out of the inning somehow.
And it'd be like, all right, this is the inning.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 4 did you feel bad at all for the city of Seattle for what you did to them in that game? Was there like a small little piece of you that's like,

Speaker 4 they seem like nice fans. They've been through a lot.
Like, yeah, I wanted to win, but also like that sucks for them.

Speaker 17 It was,

Speaker 17 well, it went two games long. So

Speaker 17 the fans that were at the ballpark got to watch two baseball games worth 18 innings. So

Speaker 17 I don't know. I don't know if I felt bad or I don't know really what I felt.
I just knew that it was pretty loud in there for Knox.

Speaker 17 And I was was trying to make sure that his baby headphones stayed on throughout the whole game and he was good.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, thanks so much, man.
We really appreciate it. Best of luck.
And yeah, we're excited to try the jerky. So have a great offseason and we'll hopefully see you soon.

Speaker 17 Sounds good. I'll send you guys some.

Speaker 1 Thanks, guys.

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Speaker 17 And now for something completely different.

Speaker 1 All right, we now welcome on a very special guest, uh, soon-to-be recurring guest because I think he's in AWL. I think he listens to the show.
It is Heisman finalist Max Duggan from TCU.

Speaker 1 Also, his team is in the college football playoffs, which I'm very excited for. Max, thank you for joining us.
We appreciate it.

Speaker 1 Let's start with the Heisman. So, what, 48 hours away? Yep.

Speaker 1 Are you going to win?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 6 Whatever the voters think.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but is there a part of you that's like, because I feel like you can kind of tell, and like, Caleb Williams got a lot of pub, but you might be the guy who's like, hey, maybe, let's do it.

Speaker 6 I mean, Caleb's had a pretty legit season. Like, CJ, I know a lot of people don't talk about played played pretty legit, too.
Like, he's had a great season.

Speaker 6 Stetson doesn't get the talk I don't think that he probably deserves. Right.
That, like, oh, you know, he just plays on a good team.

Speaker 6 Like, if you watch his games, like, that dude could play and he can ball.

Speaker 1 He's very good. But you went 11-1.
And you also beat every team on your schedule.

Speaker 6 Hey, if it happens, it happens.

Speaker 4 Let me ask you this. If you had a vote, who would you vote for?

Speaker 1 Oh, good question.

Speaker 1 Well, let me just.

Speaker 1 I'd vote for Max. I would too.

Speaker 6 Selfishly, you know, you want to vote for yourself?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 6 The other three, they're all like legit players and like legit contenders, and you know, they'd all win it.

Speaker 4 So, do you have a do you have a speech written?

Speaker 6 I got to probably think of something, you know, maybe start making some bullet points

Speaker 6 in case you win. In case you win, I think you got to be prepared.

Speaker 4 This one feels like it's more wide open than it's been in a few years, where like nobody really knows who's going to win at all. So, like, it legitimately could be you.

Speaker 4 That would be a surreal moment, like, standing up there receiving the Heisman Trophy. Have you ever, have you seen it in person yet?

Speaker 6 No, I've never seen it. You know, I'm like a college football nerd, so you grow up watching all the Heisman ceremonies and all that, but I've never been.

Speaker 6 I've never seen it and ever been, so it's going to be cool. This is my first time in New York.

Speaker 1 Oh, really? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Who did you model your game after growing up?

Speaker 6 I never really modeled it, and you guys are going to get upset when I say it. So I grew up a Packers fan.
So I watched Rodgers.

Speaker 1 Yeah, sure.

Speaker 6 I watched Rogers and Brett, Ike Favre play all the time.

Speaker 1 Who do you think was a bigger drug addict?

Speaker 6 You guys kill me.

Speaker 1 All right, keep going. Sorry.

Speaker 6 No, so those are the two, like, I don't like model, but those are the guys you like watch and you know, try to be tough and make all those throws.

Speaker 1 Off the field. Yeah, probably not.
Don't model off the field. Not great.
Just on the field, that's fine.

Speaker 4 How much money would you like to see go to TCU's women's volleyball stadium?

Speaker 1 Off the record.

Speaker 4 Like, I'm talking like welfare.

Speaker 1 I got a connection.

Speaker 6 Hey, our volleyball team was pretty good this year.

Speaker 4 So you're getting in Brett Favre's territory, right?

Speaker 1 Wait, so

Speaker 1 the yeah, the Heisman, like, I, it is one of those things. It's like, I know that it probably doesn't have as, as much of, like, the,

Speaker 1 like, mystique that it did 40 years ago, but I still love the Heisman. There's something about it.
Like, you, did you have that moment when you realized you're coming to New York?

Speaker 1 Like, even if you don't win it on Saturday night, to be a Heisman finalist, like, that's fucking cool.

Speaker 6 No, it's, yeah, I love it because, like, you know, there's so much tradition, and, you know, whatever you want to say.

Speaker 6 I still think it's, you know, an incredible, even if you're not. winning it, but you're part of it, like a finalist.

Speaker 1 It helps your school.

Speaker 6 You get the, like, your school gets recognition more than anything, like getting on a national level, things of that sort. So I think it's awesome for just everybody.

Speaker 1 So we need to get the Max Duggan statue getting built.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 4 if you win a Heisman trophy, they have to build it.

Speaker 1 It's actually legally part of it.

Speaker 4 Have you thought about that?

Speaker 6 No, maybe we need to talk to our AD and our chancellor.

Speaker 1 It is heavy, by the way. We've held it no big deal, Joe Burrow, when he came in with it after, but it's heavy, so be careful.

Speaker 6 Joe Burrow, born, born in Iowa. There you go.
Fun fact.

Speaker 1 That's true.

Speaker 4 Joe Burrow's got like four states that claim he's like Lincoln. Yeah, he's from Lincoln.

Speaker 1 He does, yeah.

Speaker 1 Midwest, right?

Speaker 4 Yeah, born in Iowa, moved to Ohio, played in Louisiana, now back to Ohio.

Speaker 4 So you grew up in Iowa, right?

Speaker 6 I grew up in Iowa, yep.

Speaker 1 Are people mad that you didn't go to Iowa, especially knowing, well, actually, Iowa or Iowa State, knowing the quarterback situations there?

Speaker 6 They were upset, I think, when I initially signed. I leaving out of high school.
Yeah, you know, go there. They were my first two offers, and I spent a lot of time up there.

Speaker 6 I thought about going to both schools.

Speaker 1 What made you go to TCU?

Speaker 6 I didn't want to go to school in-state. I didn't want to go anywhere close.
I wanted to go kind of somewhere new. And TCU has all the boring football stuff that you want to go to.

Speaker 4 Like offense? Like, they play offense?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Like,

Speaker 1 you get to pass the ball. All the boring football stuff you want to go to.

Speaker 6 But Fort Worth, have you guys ever been to Fort Worth? Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's awesome. It's way back to the bottom.
It's awesome.

Speaker 6 It's a nice place to be. I know it's like, you know, it's a small private school down for it.
It's a sick place to go to school.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Isn't there like the saying, like, keep keep our keep Dallas out of Fort Worth or something?

Speaker 4 Yeah, Fort Worth is my second favorite city in Texas. It's very underrated.
People don't talk about it that much.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like, or there's a bunch of them. It's like, if you want to live in Manhattan, move to Dallas.
If you want to live in Texas, move to Fort Worth.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Fort Worth, it's like an old school, like actually a western town. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 It is, yeah. Like you're going to get the old country, but like it still has like the city feel, though.
Like we're still what it's like 13th biggest city in the country.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 So what would you say would be your Heisman moment this year?

Speaker 4 I love it when they talk about Heisman moments.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I think every, I think everybody, when they talk about Heisman moment, everyone tries to pick little details, like, oh, that might be his Heisman moment. That might be his Heisman moment.

Speaker 6 I don't really know.

Speaker 4 That touchdown pass at the end of the fourth quarter when you

Speaker 1 pop it. You shot over the spread.
Yeah, West Virginia.

Speaker 6 Yeah, sorry to you guys about that one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, we deserved it because I think the season started where we were like, we were like, we had a joke because Dave didn't know your name and we're like, who's the starting quarterback TCU?

Speaker 1 And he like googled it. And Sonny,

Speaker 1 when he was on the show, he did the whole, we have three quarterbacks in August. So he told you you were starter, though, right?

Speaker 1 Like he, he, he was like, look, you're the guy, but I got to say three, just to mess with everyone. No, no.
Really? Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's, I mean, that's got to be the first Heisman finalist to be in a quarterback competition going into week one, right?

Speaker 1 I would imagine. I had no idea.
That's crazy. That's a crazy season, man.
You should be very proud of yourself.

Speaker 6 You know, it's funny is that I remember week one, you guys all just got back from Boulder.

Speaker 1 Yes. You guys were high on Colorado and we were playing them and you got no, we didn't get us.
Hold on. No,

Speaker 4 we were high on Colorado knowing that Deion was going to be able to listen next year.

Speaker 1 Our defense, our defense, they told us that they were going to be wearing throwback jerseys. And we are suckers for throwback jerseys, so we're like, hammer Colorado.

Speaker 1 Turns out Colorado, I think they went the opposite of you guys. I think they went 1-11.

Speaker 6 I don't know how they finished up.

Speaker 1 That was bad. Yeah, you guys, you put it on them in that game.
Second half. They were in the first half.

Speaker 6 It was. I think it was like a one-point game at halftime or something.

Speaker 4 Yeah, well, we had altitude poisoning also. We hiked an Everest equivalent when we were out there.
So it was like we had hypoxia. They told us whatever they wanted to.

Speaker 1 We were like, oh, yeah, they're going to be good. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I like this coach.

Speaker 1 How many cuts do you have on your arms right now?

Speaker 6 Oh, dude, too many.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 It's turf. It's the worst thing ever for.

Speaker 1 We're Team Grass for. Hashtag Safer Field.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I don't know anybody that plays football, soccer, whatever, like that likes turf. Yeah.

Speaker 6 And it's like, you get, I might be an outlier, but every time I get, I get hit tackle, it's like, all right, I'm going to get a turf burn, and then it's going to scab up.

Speaker 6 Oh, it's going to start bleeding, and then I look like an idiot on TV.

Speaker 1 This is the red hair, right? Yeah, that probably is going to be a bit of a hair. Yeah, yeah.
But do you know that they were saying that in the broadcast?

Speaker 1 They were like, they went down to the sideline. They're like, I just looked.
Max Tuggan has over 30 cuts and bruises on his arm.

Speaker 1 They were counting.

Speaker 1 They were asking. How can you count that?

Speaker 6 What's an exact number of cuts and bruises you guys got?

Speaker 1 You did look so fucking cool when you scored that touchdown to go into overtime and you were like, had to be picked off the ground.

Speaker 1 In your head, were you like, this is like, this is such an awesome moment? Oh, I was so broke.

Speaker 6 Oh, I was so tired.

Speaker 1 Just so gassed.

Speaker 6 Like, whatever we had, it was like mostly runs, like, not even design runs, just like scrambles on that. You were doing everything.
And it was like, I'm so tired right now.

Speaker 6 I didn't even know what was going on. I'm like, we scored.
I'm like, all right, cool. And you look to the sideline and I forgot that we were down eight and everyone's putting up two.

Speaker 6 I'm like, oh, no, it's not the two-point conversion.

Speaker 1 It was an incredible game.

Speaker 1 Now, obviously, because you guys are in the college football playoff, I think I can bring this up because it's not as like you want to win the Big 12 championship, but you still have your season in front of you.

Speaker 1 What happened on third and fourth down in overtime? Yes, they beat us.

Speaker 6 They beat us on those third and fourth down.

Speaker 1 Do we think maybe that you were like kicking their ass and maybe shotgun like let Max make a play?

Speaker 6 Hindsight's always 20-20. You know, no, I thought that in in the moment.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 6 our running back has not been beat on like short line, goal line stands this year. He's been legit.
And we're running a run scheme to like behind our guys that we have been successful behind.

Speaker 6 And it's like, it's hard to get

Speaker 6 to stop someone twice from one yard. And it's like...
Hindsight's always kind of 20-20 since we didn't get it in.

Speaker 1 I just felt bad for you in that moment because

Speaker 1 you played your guts out.

Speaker 1 And you were just like, it felt like one of those games, every time you needed to make a big play you made a big play so it's like just let max make a big play again so that's why i just you know but again i feel like am i right that as much as that loss sucked it sucks a little less knowing like you guys are good you're in the playoffs yeah we were all upset and you know because the it pretty much it got taken out of our hands that we're not in control anymore and then you're all upset you know you lost a league championship less than you know 24 hours later you get a play for like a chance to go to the national championships like all right it makes you feel a little bit better obviously it still hurts yeah you know yeah it's definitely less sting.

Speaker 6 Yeah, you got to redeem yourself. You're playing the playoff and all that, so it's going to be cool.

Speaker 4 Yeah, going back to November 19th against Baylor, the end of that game.

Speaker 4 That was one of the craziest finishes I've ever seen. Yeah.
You guys are driving down the field. I don't know what's going on with the clock management.

Speaker 4 I was yelling at your coach through my television. I was like, what the fuck are you doing? This is going to blow up in your face.
They send you guys off the field, send the field goal unit on.

Speaker 4 Clock's still running. The kicker doesn't even get a chance to line up.
He just kind of stops and boots it through. What was actually going on?

Speaker 4 Was that the plan the entire time where it was like, you guys have timed out how long it takes your field goal unit to get

Speaker 4 onto the field?

Speaker 6 Yeah, so when you go into that situation, you know, it's like, okay, 15 to 18 seconds is kind of that range where you can get that playoff. Anything less, you're not going to be able to get off.

Speaker 6 And I think we started runoff with 19 seconds. And everyone's going to be like, oh, they didn't mean to do that.
That was bad play calling. Like, they got lucky.
Like, we're running two plays.

Speaker 6 They get it set up in the middle. You know, we don't have any timeouts.

Speaker 6 Like, Coach Dykes, our special teams coordinator, our OC, another coach that helps with clock management and things, situations like that, had a plan.

Speaker 6 They were letting us know, like, hey, this is what we're going to do.

Speaker 1 And I kind of knew that was what we were going to do. Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, it was pulled it off. You guys, your season has been incredible.

Speaker 1 It's just like every game it feels like something weird has happened and something awesome has happened. The comebacks, like it,

Speaker 1 I think we asked Coach Dykes this, but when you're in the locker room, like all these games, at some point you're like, hey, let's try to start fast once. Yeah.
Because there was a stretch there.

Speaker 1 Like, it felt like a month where you guys just got in these huge holes and like, oh, they're going to just come out of this and win.

Speaker 6 Oh, yeah. No, we're just trying to make it entertaining at home.

Speaker 6 Make sure everyone gets stressed out. Every time we joke around about that, you're like, hey, guys, can we

Speaker 1 blow a team out? Yeah, get a little bit more.

Speaker 6 And not try to make it come down to the last two minutes and try to win a game because everyone else freaks out and gets pissed off at us.

Speaker 4 Talk to me about the hypnotoad and how the hypnotoad has played into this team's success because I'm a fan. I'm actually just a fan of like the social media accounts at TCU.

Speaker 4 They do a great job with all that. So tell me what the hypnotoad means.

Speaker 6 Yeah, no, our guys, yeah, they know what they're doing, how to get people to start talking about TCU. But no, the hypnotoad is a thing that's been going on at TCU for a couple years.

Speaker 6 Like it's not just this year, but you know, since

Speaker 6 you had a good season, people start talking about it. But it's just this little like montage video like gets everyone like cranked up gets everyone like fired.
Our student section loves it.

Speaker 6 And we just got a ran with it. Like, hey, it's good luck charm.

Speaker 6 People say like hypnotizes the other team gets them like we used to play it before the nca got pissed at us but like we would play it and with like a bunch of you know random stuff on the big screen against kickers when they've kicked field goals that was like our thing and then we started making all the the cool montage videos but it's uh yeah It's helped us this season.

Speaker 6 And the videos are awesome. I don't know if you've ever seen the videos that we play in our stadium.
They're incredible.

Speaker 1 The videos are awesome. Yes.
No, and there's something about

Speaker 1 any college football team that has a unique mascot. And when they make a run, like just the horn frogs and you're just like what the fuck is a horn frog and they're purple and it's just cool.

Speaker 4 Yeah, what is a horn frog?

Speaker 1 Who?

Speaker 6 What is a horn frog? Yeah

Speaker 6 people like to say it's a like a lizard or things of that sort, but it's like a yeah, like a little like a frog lizard that's got these little spikes on them. They're in Texas.
They're real.

Speaker 1 Okay. They are real.
Are they purple?

Speaker 6 We can make them purple.

Speaker 1 We can make them purple.

Speaker 1 Billy, can you make them purple?

Speaker 4 Billy's our lizard expert.

Speaker 1 It's technically a lizard. Okay.
All right. Thank you, Billy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there we go.

Speaker 1 So Gary Patterson obviously probably recruited you, right?

Speaker 1 How weird was that when he was across the sideline in the Texas game?

Speaker 6 Yeah, you know, it's just something that

Speaker 6 kind of became like of college football, like, you know, with how coaches are leaving and moving around. It's kind of...

Speaker 6 It's weird, you know, because you spend so much time with someone, and, you know, especially what Coach Pete did for Fort Worth and TCU, but you kind of have to block it out like you kind of have to not make it a big deal it was the same thing when we had to go play smu this year yeah that's true same thing

Speaker 1 yeah obviously there's the elephant in the room but you can't really let that get into it and like make it a bigger deal because it really doesn't like impact you playing on the on the field like players still got to play except and now this is probably something that only the viewers think about because we're not actually playing the games but like i would think okay this is the guy that recruited me this is a guy that coached me for three years does he know like one of my tells

Speaker 1 Did you think about that at all?

Speaker 6 No, I didn't really think about it.

Speaker 1 He might think about that.

Speaker 6 But you still think about players got to play the game. Yeah.
So it's like coaches can know whatever they want to. They still got to coach the guys.

Speaker 6 The guy's still got to, you know, make it make sense that he's got to go make a play. So it's like,

Speaker 1 I just remember seeing him on the sideline, like, maybe it was week two against Alabama. And I was like, wait, what the fuck? Why is he, what is he wearing right now? This is weird.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And did he, when he recruited you, did he like leave halfway through the recruiting and go change because he got too sweaty? No, no, he didn't.

Speaker 6 No, that's.

Speaker 1 That would be funny if he had to change wardrobes in the middle of a recruitment.

Speaker 6 Yeah, if the recruiting process wasn't going that well.

Speaker 4 Did he wear a vest into your living room?

Speaker 4 Like, is he really about that vest life or is it just on gameplay?

Speaker 6 Well, when he came up to my house, it was like negative because it was in December.

Speaker 6 So, yeah, it was pretty cold. I don't think vest-worthy.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah, so he wasn't sweating.
That's good.

Speaker 4 Didn't keep that thing on him. If I were him, I would just...
If you have a thing, you need to just embrace that thing. Yeah.
Not stop and be a vest guy.

Speaker 1 Do you have a year of eligibility left?

Speaker 6 Are you staying? I don't know yet.

Speaker 1 Do you want to announce it now?

Speaker 6 I don't know what I'm doing yet. You guys can help me out and pick for me.

Speaker 4 Do you want to declare something?

Speaker 6 It's just always going to be like portals.

Speaker 1 Are you retiring yet? Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 Are you retiring from the portal?

Speaker 6 I don't know what I'm doing yet.

Speaker 1 Are you not? You're not. Well, no, you're not going to the portal.
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm not going to the portal. Okay, that's our announcement then.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Max Dungeons has officially announced he will not be entering the transfer portal this last season.

Speaker 1 Wait, does Quentin Johnson have another year?

Speaker 6 Yeah, but.

Speaker 1 Oh, he does. Okay.
Yeah, he. I doubt he comes with that.
Oh, whoops. All right, we'll cut that.

Speaker 1 I doubt.

Speaker 6 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 The big takeaway, though, is that you're not transferring.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 4 What about JMU? There's a lot of speculation that you might go play there.

Speaker 6 Dude, those guys, they can't go to a bull game this year. It's kind of like, that sucks.
Can't they?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they got a pizza party, though, from us. Yeah, we soon.
Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 What was it, like 40 pizzas?

Speaker 1 A little bit more than that.

Speaker 4 I think it was like 60.

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 1 If TCU wins the national championship, we'll throw a pizza. We get a pizza party? Pizza party? You know what? Yeah, fuck it.
I'll match. Fuck it.
I'm throwing you a pizza party, pizza.

Speaker 1 It's going to be huge.

Speaker 4 We're addicted to pizza.

Speaker 1 We're doing 150 pizzas.

Speaker 1 Wait, how many people are on the team?

Speaker 6 Like 120?

Speaker 1 120 pizza. We'll do a pizza per person.
Okay. Actually, no, there's staff, too.
150.

Speaker 4 And the social media team, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, 150. More? How many? 200.
200 people. If TCU wins the national championship.

Speaker 4 That's a lot of pies.

Speaker 1 Bucket. That's a shitload of pies.

Speaker 6 Damn it. It'll be a party in Fort Worth.

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah. Well, yeah, because we're going to buy the pizza.
That's right. That's what I'm saying.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Fuck, we might have to come to that.

Speaker 4 Has LT reached out to you?

Speaker 6 I've talked to LT a couple times. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Is he like, is he as cool as I think that he is? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 6 Yeah. He comes to our practices.
He's around. He's on our board at TCU.
And, yeah.

Speaker 6 Obviously, his nephew plays corner for us.

Speaker 1 So, yeah.

Speaker 6 LT is a staple of TCU.

Speaker 1 Mount Rushmore. Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 4 What about He is Mount Rushmore of TCU. Yeah, well,

Speaker 4 he is a one-person head.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Well, what about Andy? Has Andy.
Nice guy. Really nice guy.

Speaker 6 You talk about football, Mount Rushmore. There's like, obviously, Andy and LT.

Speaker 6 Davey O'Brien went to TCU.

Speaker 6 You get Sammy Baugh, if y'all know who that is. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Who is that? He was a punter, quarterback, and Bob Lilly.

Speaker 4 And he led the league in interceptions, too.

Speaker 1 Who's that? That's Sammy Baugh.

Speaker 6 Oh, yeah, yeah. He was kicked.
Yeah, defense, quarterback, punter, kicker.

Speaker 6 That was how real men played football back in the day.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 more like that. So you ever had Andy talk to you?

Speaker 6 Yeah, I still talk to Andy. All right, really nice guy.
Oh, awesome. I love him.

Speaker 1 One of the nicest guys.

Speaker 6 Yeah,

Speaker 6 him and his family are awesome. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Does he have any advice to you as a red-headed quarterback?

Speaker 6 Just keep slinging it, man. Just keep it.

Speaker 1 Red rifle right there. That's good advice.
Wait, so when does prep start for Michigan or it has it already?

Speaker 6 Yeah, our coaches have already started on it. We, players-wise, have had practice off.
We've been lifting, things of that sort. We'll start practice on Sunday, though.

Speaker 4 Okay. How much do you bench?

Speaker 6 How much does Billy bench?

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 good question. He doesn't know it.

Speaker 1 He just had the flu, so he lost all his gains.

Speaker 1 He lost all the gains. He lost all his gains.
He lost all his gains.

Speaker 7 He probably just still throw up like 275.

Speaker 4 Oh, that was a lie. You hear how he kind of stumbled over that one? That's like 255.

Speaker 9 He probably don't let you bench.

Speaker 6 We do like the quarterback friendly where it's like not the barbell, but it's like the straight bar or the neutral dumbbells whatever.

Speaker 6 Better than your like for your shoulders. I'm like, I don't know what it means.
They have so much stuff now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't, I don't, it doesn't make sense to me.

Speaker 4 Yeah, just sounds like you bench a lot, though, if you wanted to. You could probably do like at least 285 if you really wanted to.

Speaker 7 He's got to maintain range of motion.

Speaker 4 Let him answer the question, Billy.

Speaker 6 I don't know how much, but I like haven't really max benched probably since like my maybe senior year of high school.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and what did you bench then?

Speaker 6 Not that much. I was a little boy back then.

Speaker 4 How far do you think you could throw a football

Speaker 6 60, 65. I don't know.
I don't have a big arm.

Speaker 4 That's pretty, that's pretty good, though.

Speaker 6 I don't know. You get guys like Josh Allen and my dudes can throw like 65 on their knees.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 I mean, he's Pat Mohms, I can spin it.

Speaker 4 Yeah. What would you say your best attribute as a quarterback is?

Speaker 6 It's not really quarterback, but like competitiveness.

Speaker 1 It's not really a quarterback trait, but yeah.

Speaker 4 You're a tough dude. You compete at everything.

Speaker 6 Try to, yeah.

Speaker 6 Play ping pong or something?

Speaker 1 Play checkers. You You want to guess a number?

Speaker 1 Sure. Yeah.
Do you know this? Yeah. Well, Hank's never gotten it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 What do you want to guess? I'll let you just you.

Speaker 6 What's it go up to?

Speaker 1 100. 100?

Speaker 6 Let's go like 43.

Speaker 1 If you get this.

Speaker 4 That's a good guess. I think 43 is not going to be.

Speaker 1 He's so stressed because he's never gotten it. So, like, anyone who walks in and we're just like, hey, guess if they get it and he doesn't.
No. Oh, 69.
That sucks, Billy.

Speaker 1 Don't always guess 69.

Speaker 1 That ruled. Sorry, Billy.

Speaker 1 They're due. They're due.
They repeat a lot.

Speaker 4 Oh, this is a very important question. Have you decided what you're going to wear to the Heisman trophy? Oh, yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Is it something cool? Yeah, something cool. Is it like a purple thing? Yeah, it got a little purple.

Speaker 6 So the shop that I went to and got me all hooked up, they like dressed out Baker for his Heisman, like D D, Westbrook. Yeah, they had had a so it's gonna be some cool stuff.

Speaker 1 You should wear a 10-gallon hat. Oh, yeah, that would be sick if like everybody.
Make a statement, no one behind you couldn't see the stage.

Speaker 4 You got cowboy boots?

Speaker 6 I do have cowboy boots, but I didn't bring them, though.

Speaker 6 I think, I don't know, cowboy boots in New York City, they'll be like, okay, stop trying to be like southern.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think that would play if you were like born and raised in Texas.

Speaker 6 Yeah, if you were really about that, it's not really my personality, though. You're a fake cowboy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, maybe a toothpick, though, in your mouth when they zoom in on you.

Speaker 1 That would be nice.

Speaker 4 What's a big Iowa thing if you're looking at like Iowa Iowa fashion?

Speaker 6 Iowa fashion. A hoodie?

Speaker 1 Car heart. A hoodie and shorts.
Carhart.

Speaker 1 Maybe some overalls, you know, farmers.

Speaker 1 Tan pants and a car hard.

Speaker 4 Yeah, do you know our friend Trent? He's from Iowa. He works here.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 Obviously, I've never met him, but you should watch his highlight reel from when he was in high school. He's a menace at middle linebackers.

Speaker 1 He's an absolute beast.

Speaker 1 All right, well, Max, this has been awesome. Do you have any questions for us? Because you are in AWL.
We appreciate you listening, man.

Speaker 6 I'm pretty sure I'm getting on this for the first time. This is awesome.

Speaker 1 Well, now you're part of the club. Like, we will protect you.
Let's go.

Speaker 1 We will defend your honor.

Speaker 4 I have another question. Do you have any enemies?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 This is part of the deal. So, if you have enemies, now we're your attack dogs.

Speaker 6 I don't really have any. If I think of some, I'm going to let you know.
Okay. I need coffee, by the way.

Speaker 1 Oh, I have amazing.

Speaker 6 Yeah. Oh, you got it.
Dawson sent me some.

Speaker 1 Fuck yeah. Yeah, Dawson.
I'm happy you liked it. Yeah.
It was a go, Dawson. Way to go, dude.

Speaker 6 Dawson was being a guy.

Speaker 1 Hank thought his name was Blake.

Speaker 1 He looks like a Blake. He looks exactly like someone, and I texted the kid he looked like.
I was like, hey,

Speaker 1 let him know we'll be ready in 30 minutes. He's like, that's not me, but I'll let Dawson know.
Yeah, wait, so Dawson works for us.

Speaker 1 He claims he played.

Speaker 6 He did.

Speaker 1 What did he play? Kicker. Oh, okay.
I thought you were a long snapper. You were a kicker.
Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 Walk-on kicker, yeah. Oh, okay.

Speaker 4 What's your longest field goal?

Speaker 5 55.

Speaker 1 Whoa, not that long. No, but that's just during the summer.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's just during the summer.

Speaker 4 Yeah. But I made a 60-yard win.

Speaker 1 I was trash.

Speaker 4 I was not good at all.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 I literally learned how to kick just to make the

Speaker 1 team. How long?

Speaker 1 Only reason why.

Speaker 4 When you were kicking, how long did coach tell you it would take for you to get onto the field with the clock running?

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 I was too far down on that depth chart.

Speaker 12 So that was never a question that was asked to me.

Speaker 4 Gotcha. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Gotcha.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, Max, good luck on Saturday night.
We're rooting for you. 200 pizzas for TCU team if they win the national title.

Speaker 4 And two liter sodas, too, for everybody.

Speaker 1 They're yelping. Yeah.
Do you want? No, I was going to say, do you want pizza if you win, if you beat Michigan, but I think that's just mission not accomplished.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it's, you know, you're getting rewarded. He's still got another game to play.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we don't want you guys getting like too

Speaker 6 full. Yeah, too much grease.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right, right.

Speaker 4 It's going to be a hell of a pizza party. Yes.

Speaker 1 It's going to be pumped. All right, Max.
Thanks so much, man. Appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 1 Okay, let's wrap it up. We got Fire Fest of the week.
Great Great show today, boys. Great show.
I like that Alex Brigham interview a lot.

Speaker 4 Good show.

Speaker 1 We got Max going with him pretty good. We were like, hey, remember when you said it wasn't a no-hitter? And Alex was like, yeah,

Speaker 1 our team threw, and they didn't hit any balls. I honestly completely forgot about that because it was the most.

Speaker 4 It wasn't a no-hitter.

Speaker 1 Put the camera on yourself, Max.

Speaker 11 I hadn't thought about that since you guys brought that up right there because I was like, oh, right, I guess they have that bullshit then.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean,

Speaker 4 did you look at the box score, though?

Speaker 4 Nope.

Speaker 4 No hits. No hits.
Still no hits.

Speaker 1 No hits. Fake.

Speaker 1 Fake.

Speaker 1 My Fire Fest of the Week, I was leaving the office yesterday, put on my nice winter coat, went to zip it up, and for whatever reason, when I pulled up the zipper, it broke. I'm zipperless.

Speaker 1 It's a coat that's like... You're zipperless? Yeah, it's two or three years old.
Luckily, it hasn't been too cold, so I didn't, you know, I was able to

Speaker 1 manage the commute with having my chest exposed with multiple layers.

Speaker 4 90s style. That's how we used to wear our coats back then.

Speaker 1 So I'm going to need to buy a new coat.

Speaker 1 And I think I might. I don't know.

Speaker 4 Are you going to get a puffer?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 I've never really gotten a corporate coat, like a peak coat or like a pigboy coat. I don't know.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 It's one of those things where it's.

Speaker 4 You should get a trench coat. Yeah, you should get a trench coat.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 4 you're taking one. Like one of the ones that the old guys wear in Law and Order.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 You should get it. You'd look awesome.

Speaker 1 You would look sick in a trench coat. You won't.
He won't.

Speaker 1 He's not going to. He won't do it.
No, he's not. I'm open to suggestions.
Well, he just gave me one. Yeah.
Yeah. You're not.
I'm open to good suggestions, not

Speaker 1 ones lit by gas. That's what you're talking about.
That's a great suggestion.

Speaker 4 I wish I could get a trench coat, but like...

Speaker 1 You can. No,

Speaker 4 have you seen what I wear? You can't wear sweatpants and like basically a life beater every day and then have a trench coat on top of it.

Speaker 8 You can. People wear less.

Speaker 1 yeah. Actually, I would have pushed back.
Actually,

Speaker 4 freaks sometimes wear nothing at all.

Speaker 1 I don't think you, your wardrobe, I don't think you can say can't with anything.

Speaker 4 Is the skies the limit?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you, you are, you're like a

Speaker 1 blank canvas when it comes to whatever you want to wear.

Speaker 4 I could, I could do, I could pull most things off. I don't think, I don't think a trench coat, though.
I think if I put on a trench coat, people would just walk the other way from me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, that might be the case. What would you Hank? What was your face?

Speaker 1 The kid that is

Speaker 4 boys with Garrett.

Speaker 1 Who the fuck's Garrett? He works here. Or not Garrett, the Duggan.
Duggan.

Speaker 1 Oh, Blake. It's not Blake.
It's a kid that looks exactly like Blake. And I was texting Blake, and he's like, by the way, that's not, like, I'm not the person that's with him.
It's not me.

Speaker 1 That's someone else. And I just realized that.
Oh, no. Okay.
So I feel bad. Yeah.
Okay, you should feel bad.

Speaker 1 Okay. They look, in my defense, they look very.
We do have a type at Barstool. Yes, we do.
Okay, very good.

Speaker 1 He was just like, yeah, I mean, I told him, but I'm not involved in this.

Speaker 4 Hank, talking about the jackets makes me realize, like, it's not going to get cold this year, is it?

Speaker 1 It's

Speaker 1 not going to get cold anywhere. Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's crazy. That is crazy.

Speaker 1 Global warming.

Speaker 1 Is Chicago cold? Not right now. Huh.

Speaker 1 It's like 40 degrees right now, everywhere.

Speaker 4 My Fire Fest, I've got two. I'll make them real quick.

Speaker 4 First one is... No Bachelor Party this weekend? No bachelor party this weekend.
But it is tied in with that. I'm addicted to nicotine again.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. Even though

Speaker 4 I quit vaping like a year and a half ago,

Speaker 1 what?

Speaker 4 What does that look at?

Speaker 1 Continue. I did.
I quit vaping. No, I know, no, I wasn't going to give you.

Speaker 4 I quit vaping the day after the Super Bowl. Cold turkey.
Never went back. I quit doing dip and nicotine pouches.
Labor Day weekend. Haven't done any this year.

Speaker 4 That's very tough to do during football season.

Speaker 4 And then between going to Qatar with Donnie, where I'm overseas, I allow myself to smoke cigarettes if I'm overseas or if I'm inside anywhere in the United States. Those are the rules.

Speaker 1 That's custom.

Speaker 4 And I smoked a shitload of cigarettes over in Qatar. And then I went on a bachelor party, smoked a lot down in Panama, amongst other things.

Speaker 4 And I'm just fully addicted now where I'm going through the withdrawals to nicotine again. headache, jaws tightened, the whole nine yards, even though I don't even really use nicotine.

Speaker 4 I got re-addicted over the last two weeks. Damn.
So that's tough. I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 I just might get back on. I just might start vaping again.
Yeah. Why not?

Speaker 4 My other Fire Fest is that I'm about to buy a Christmas tree this weekend because it's getting in the Christmas spirit. And I love Christmas trees.

Speaker 4 It's the best smell, one of my top three smells in the world. And in New York City, you know how much Christmas trees cost?

Speaker 1 Just guess. $7.

Speaker 1 I was going to say $400.

Speaker 3 I don't know the market, so I don't want to.

Speaker 1 Yes. $300? I don't know.

Speaker 4 It's about $400.

Speaker 4 Oh, wow.

Speaker 4 It's about $400 for a Christmas tree here, which, as a former Christmas tree salesman, I see the prices and I don't want to pay them. And every year I do the same thing.

Speaker 4 Someone's like, yeah, it's $400. What are the markswear? Well, so where I used to sell them, it was between $50 and $60.

Speaker 1 That was also like

Speaker 1 30 years ago. Shut the fuck up, man.

Speaker 1 Shut up. That was like a seven.

Speaker 4 Fuck you, Hank. Listen.

Speaker 1 You know that you're a bad guy. We sold a fair tree at a fair price.
That was under a dollar. Do you know the Christmas tree they got on the movie A Christmas Story? PFT sold them that one.

Speaker 4 I was a great Christmas tree salesman. I sold Christmas trees to Nuke Gingrich and Colin Powell.
Who else has done that? Get you, man. They can do both.

Speaker 4 But yeah, so they're 400 bucks, and I'm just going to end up having to buy a tree for $400 because what am I going to do?

Speaker 1 Not have a tree? No. Just get an ounce.

Speaker 4 An ounce of Christmas tree? Yeah. Yeah, just like just the needles? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Why not?

Speaker 1 All right, MyFire Hest. I already talked about it this this week, but I was like deathly ill for 24 hours this week.
I do not know what happened.

Speaker 1 I feel losing a Sunday podcast, NFL podcast, like being like out of rhythm.

Speaker 1 You know how we've done a couple, like maybe one or two in the past like six years Zoom, and it feels like everything's off the rest of the week? Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's how I felt all week just because Sunday night I was so out of it and so fucked up and puked that I've just been like,

Speaker 1 I need a Sunday reset. I need a Sunday full show, feel good, like have the energy to do it to feel like good again.

Speaker 4 It feels like that show didn't even happen to you, probably. Yeah, I think we did one a couple years ago.
I think I was at a bachelor party in Canada.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And we couldn't make it work. And it did feel like

Speaker 4 I was like playing from behind all weeks.

Speaker 1 Right, exactly. Because the Sunday night PMT fall football shows is like a tentpole in my life.
And so my whole orbit has been fucked up. I did lose eight pounds.

Speaker 1 Fuck you, Hank, because I didn't eat eat for like 48 hours. So that's pretty sick.
And I'm also

Speaker 1 confirms everything.

Speaker 1 I'm also, I'm also, is this your five person?

Speaker 1 And I'm also, though, now the, the, the, uh, problem is that you guys probably all know this, like when you, your stomach shrinks and you can, like, ride that wave for a couple days.

Speaker 1 I haven't had my first big meal yet. I think I'm going to have it soon, though, and then it's all going to be gone.
It'll be a good one.

Speaker 1 Because you know, like, like, I'm right now, I've, I only, I had like a half a bagel for breakfast. That's all I've had.
And I don't feel hungry because my stomach's shrunk.

Speaker 1 So maybe I'll just get six-pack before Hank and ride the wave of being sick.

Speaker 7 If you can make it till January 1st and then just do a New Year's resolution. Yeah.
That actually might be a good thing. Just don't eat.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Fuck you, Hank.

Speaker 1 May the best pack win.

Speaker 4 You're never getting one. Super Bowl abs.

Speaker 1 You and I have the exact same percentage chance of having a six-pack in our lives. False.
Zero. So false.
Zero.

Speaker 4 You know what's crazy is in this room, if you were to like handicap who has the highest likelihood of getting abs, I think it might be Jake.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'd agree. Well, I don't go to the I don't go to the gym.
Billy.

Speaker 1 But you also start.

Speaker 4 That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 You've got that smoking bod without ever working out.

Speaker 4 Like imagine if you started going to the gym. You'd be unstoppable.

Speaker 1 If Max started powerlifting, he could be like Magnus von Maxwell. Max outbench me.

Speaker 1 He's like very rude.

Speaker 1 You know the powerlifters who have abs, but it's like a belly abs.

Speaker 8 He could get a power belly.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it wouldn't be power belly. I don't think you'd ever get a six-back guy if that would rock.
I think it would just be like... It's like a turtle shell.
Big man.

Speaker 1 It's like like a turtle shell on your stomach. That's what you could get.

Speaker 7 That's HGH bubble gut. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But yeah, Hank, you and I, 0.0%

Speaker 1 chance either of us ever have a six-pack. Let's see about that.
Okay, we will. We will.
Hank's

Speaker 1 tea.

Speaker 1 Billy.

Speaker 7 Ever since I got the flu, my eye just keeps twitching.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's dehydration. Really? Yeah.
Oh, I got to drink more water. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Less caffeine, more water.

Speaker 4 Or you have the Justin Bieber disease.

Speaker 1 Ooh, shit. No, when I drink too much coffee, my eye will twitch a little.

Speaker 4 It's dehydration.

Speaker 1 I gotta drink more water. Yeah.
Thanks. Yeah, because

Speaker 1 when I got sick on Monday, I've been pissing

Speaker 1 mutant orange for like three days. I'm finally back to being hydrated.
Sweet. Yeah.

Speaker 7 And then what else?

Speaker 1 You can also put a hot compress, like a hot towel on it, and it will help relieve it a little.

Speaker 7 I actually need that because

Speaker 7 I feel it, but I don't know if people can see it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So usually it looks like a pretty.

Speaker 4 But yeah, do a hot towel right on top and just dehydrate.

Speaker 7 I don't don't know if people are going to start making up like Katy Perry rumors about me with my eyes twitching.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, Billy, ever since we got the vaccine, Billy's just been malfunctioning. Don't say that he's Katy Perry.

Speaker 4 Don't say that Billy got vaccinated either.

Speaker 7 Also, I lost all my gains, worked out for the first time two days ago after being sick for a week, and I am so sore I can't.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I also lost all my gains. Yeah.
Lost them all.

Speaker 4 Me too. That's tough.
That sucks.

Speaker 1 Brutal. A full week.
I lost all my games.

Speaker 7 I need to talk to someone.

Speaker 1 Actually, never mind. You know how many gains I had.

Speaker 4 Billy lost all his gains in a week. That's crazy.
You went seven days without working out.

Speaker 1 Jake, that's a good one.

Speaker 4 That makes you one week.

Speaker 7 Two weeks because of Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow.

Speaker 4 Even worse.

Speaker 3 So this happened just minutes after we recorded Tuesday's episode. And if it happened during the show, it would have made for a very interesting podcast.
But two words. John.
Heyman.

Speaker 1 Yep. Oh,

Speaker 1 person judge.

Speaker 3 There was five minutes right after we recorded where I thought he was gone.

Speaker 14 He was gone.

Speaker 4 He was gone. He was gone for a a second and this and i couldn't believe it

Speaker 4 it teaches such a a a bullshit lesson to yankees fans which is you have you everything that happened to you in those like five ten minutes is some when you're going through denial when you're losing your best player everybody keeps doing that same thing they keep refreshing twitter and they keep saying to themselves like maybe it's a mistake yeah but this time it actually

Speaker 1 was a mistake and you guys got him back insane so congrats you got the tap-in merchant back yeah also the the craziest part about the aaron judge contract you know how they're always like tax savings?

Speaker 1 They're like Aaron Judge saves 7% in income tax playing in New York versus California. That is crazy.
It's like, wait, what?

Speaker 1 Like, they're both one and two, I think. Yeah.
But it's just funny to be like, that could actually be calculated, like, oh, New York's, New York City's better tax place.

Speaker 3 Yep. So that was very scary, but he was wrong.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was wrong.

Speaker 4 Is he going to suffer any consequences?

Speaker 3 Heyman, I don't think so.

Speaker 3 Everyone's acting like nothing happened. The fans fans aren't, but other journalists are still crediting him on these other stories.

Speaker 1 It's crazy.

Speaker 4 Now, we should talk about this because also in that same 10-minute span when he went to the Giants and then that got revoked, a report came out saying that the Yankees were beneficiaries of having juiced balls all last year.

Speaker 1 This was all, yeah, in that one. All in that one 10-minute.
Maybe that was fake, too.

Speaker 4 No, no, that part was real. The Yankees were getting juiced balls asterisks on his home run record, on his AL home run record.
I mean, Jake,

Speaker 4 how can you discount that? They were purposely giving the best balls in baseball

Speaker 4 to the New York Yankees last night. Facts.
Facts. Would you like to apologize?

Speaker 3 It's a nice record, but we just care about winning the World Series, which we haven't done. That's the goal.

Speaker 1 It's been a long time.

Speaker 3 It has been a long time.

Speaker 4 Well, yeah. Good news for you.
You re-signed Cashman, too.

Speaker 1 And look what he did.

Speaker 3 Actually, Hal Steinbrenner, I don't know if you guys saw this. He was in Italy, and he got the deal done with Judge.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 4 That's incredible. So So he just said that.

Speaker 5 And if he didn't get Judge, that would have looked probably not so great.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. During winter meetings.

Speaker 1 Very bad. But he got him.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 And he got a Yankee for life, and hopefully he'll be the first captain since Jeter.

Speaker 4 His C should have an asterisk next to him.

Speaker 4 Instead, the C should just be.

Speaker 1 He's not only a Yankee for life, he's a Yankee for like well past his prime, too.

Speaker 3 Because he's already 30. Yeah, I mean, he's going to be like 45.
He's the best player in baseball right now.

Speaker 4 Can't deny that.

Speaker 1 That's always a good thing to pay for past production.

Speaker 4 Are they going to, as part of the contract, that they get to keep using those same baseballs?

Speaker 1 Also,

Speaker 3 I understand, but Yankee haters, in those five to ten minutes, they're like, ha ha, he's gone.

Speaker 1 And then when they sign him, ha ha, you got stuck with a new contract. You can't do it both ways.
Yeah. They're a bad contract.
Also, shout out to the. I'll say something nice about the Cardinals.

Speaker 1 They got the best catcher they'll ever have in their franchise history, Wilson Contreras. So good for them.

Speaker 1 Numbers.

Speaker 4 17. 42.

Speaker 1 Brittany Griner. Wow.
Free VG. Rob Taylor.

Speaker 1 You got to look up some of the numbers. Also, Jackie Robinson.
I'll go with

Speaker 1 42 with Brittany Griner.

Speaker 1 Hank, what would your second number be? 17. What would your third?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Come on.

Speaker 1 You know what? Sebastian has 37.

Speaker 4 I'll let Hank split 17 with me if he wants.

Speaker 3 Sebastian has 37.

Speaker 4 We can share that.

Speaker 1 37 for Sebastian?

Speaker 7 69, Parker Titsworth.

Speaker 1 Give me a number, Hank. 71.

Speaker 1 I'll do 71.

Speaker 4 20.

Speaker 1 71. Hank, your number is? 42, Brittany Griner.

Speaker 1 0% chance. Same percent chance you'll get a six-pack is the chance that you ever get this machine.

Speaker 1 Oh!

Speaker 4 Oh, my God. 68.

Speaker 3 That's what the Mentalist had.

Speaker 1 No. Oh, my God.
It was? Yes. No, he didn't.
It was. He did 29.
I thought we were going to play a trick on Hank. Motherfucker, I forgot the trick.

Speaker 1 Because we already did another one before. Oh, no.
Wait, wait. 68.

Speaker 1 that really fundamentalist hat!

Speaker 4 No, 68's back-to-back.

Speaker 1 68. 68 is back-to-back.

Speaker 4 It's back-to-back, Jake.

Speaker 1 I understand.

Speaker 1 I fucked that up. I forgot because we had already done Will Levis, and then I just...

Speaker 1 Watery ball rigged. Interesting.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Hank's just sitting there being like, what are these guys talking about?

Speaker 4 Can we start doing

Speaker 7 the money thing?

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 January 1st. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 Also, that is back-to-back for 68.

Speaker 4 Love you guys.

Speaker 4 I thought that's why you're freaking out, Jake.

Speaker 7 Big hats are now illegal.

Speaker 7 Big cats are now illegal to own in the United States.

Speaker 7 saving.

Speaker 7 it to say, Sorry,

Speaker 7 don't

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Speaker 7 all,

Speaker 7 sudden, sudden, sudden, sudden, sudden, sun,

Speaker 7 sudden, sun,

Speaker 7 sudden,

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