NFL Week 12, Fastest 2 Minutes, Bengals Big Win, Broncos Hit Rock Bottom Plus Who's Back Of The Week

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On today's Pardon My Take, week 12 of the NFL.

We're going to talk about every game from Sunday.

We'll do a little Thanksgiving cleanup as well.

Who's back of the week?

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Today is Monday, November 28th, week 12. Hank? We start in Nashville, where A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N-O-P-Q-R-S-T.
Higgins spelled it out for the Bengals with a monster day.

Iron Hayden Hurst had the Titans saying,

Run to the Hills, as he and Samaji Pirime of the Ancient Mariner

laid the medal down in Tennessee.

Track Dorcedo.

What's that in his tailpipe?

It looks like a burrito.

As the Bengals' defense were able to slow down Der Derek Henry all afternoon long. Bengals 20, Titans 16.
In Duval where the game was delayed by 30 minutes due to lightning which is something that would never happen in the glorious kingdom of Qatar. Praise be to the Amir.
Travis Intimans went out making way for Jamichael Pastry, and Trevor Lawrence tried to find him on a croissant route over the middle, saying, Do not, do not, do not even try to tackle him. Nailed it, boom.
Stop me if you've heard this before. But the Ravens blew a fourth-quarter lead as they couldn't keep up with the Joneses after Marvin and Jay scored a touchdown two-point conversion to win the game.
We are all jagging off. Jaguars 28, the Ravens 27.
In soggy meadowlands, the price is white for the Jets as Zach Wilson passed the buck on blame for the offensive woes last week, leaving Mike to save the Jets' playoff chances from the cliffhanger. Trevor Sibian looked shaky in the Bears' offense as Chicago wasn't able to score often.
And as for their former starting quarterback, Jets fans are back thinking he's the worst one. So I must inquire, Wilson, can you still get it done? Oh, Wilson, can you still get it done? Jets 31, Bears 10.
And Derek Stingley, too. He's looking pretty fierce.
So Kyle be there for you. When Allen starts to throw.
Kyle be there for you. And love, he's gonna go.
Kyle be there for you. Kyle there for me, too.
Dolphins, dirty. My good friends, the Texans.
15.

In Carolina, where it's become rust dangerous for Broncos fans' health to watch his team play football.

What's that sound?

It's Trey Wingo screaming, Oh God, please don't let the invisible fire burn, my friend.

As Sam Darnold did his best Ricky Bobby impression rolling into the end zone for a touchdown.

Tempers flared on the sidelines as this entire season has been a Mike Purse cell phone for Russell Wilson. Panthers 23, Broncos 10.
Which one did I say? Wah! Cell phone! Cell phone. That's the bird we keep in the studio, Bo.
He just learns how to whoop and how to carry on. And he does look.
And whoop! And Whoop! We head off the coast to Raujon for a wet one, but the commanders had their Admiral Brian David Robinson to steer the ship. In a touching tribute to Will Compton, the Washington commanders unveiled a completely immobile statue without any legs, arms, or heart before the game.
Kendall was feeling fuller, much like all you fat asses that couldn't stop eating this past weekend. And let me be the last to wish you all a very happy Thanksgiving.
The Washington Commanders, 19, the Falcons, 13. In Kansas City, where the game started with Sean McVay getting jacked up.
They don't take hits like that in the announcer's booth, boom. In an attempt to carry the hell on with their season, the Rams have turned to Bryce Kendrick Perkins.
Through the foghorn of the Chiefs roster turnover, I say, I say, I say a Pacheco has emerged as a featured back in Andy Reid's offense, which means he's not featured at all. The Chiefs defense showed up in the fourth as Chiefs fans said, Nick Cannon Bolton is luxurious, luxurious daddy as both defensive players came away with an interception Chiefs 26 Rams 10 all the real ones from like 2006 are gonna get that one in Seattle DK have a four-way put up a flame-broiled 90 burger but was overshadowed by Josh Jacobs grab a brush Grab a brush and put a little makeup.
And his system of a first down, turning the Seahawks defense into chop suey. Foster the people Moreau scored as the Raiders outran the overtime gun and drew Glock's coin toss prediction, avoiding a tie for the second straight week.
Don't look now, but the Raiders are hot. The Raiders 40, the Seahawks 30.
Standing on the corner, Jameis Winston down in Nola, such a fine sight to see. It's a big moment.
The Saints look impotent. It's so boring watching nice andy.
Come on, Jameis. It's time to save us.
And please keep Kamara out of Las Vegas. The Saints don't go marching.
Niners 13. Saints.
Goose A. And that was week 12.
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Okay, week 12 in the books. Thanksgiving.
Everything. We're got the Eagles and the Packers going on mid-third quarter.
Unexpectedly good game today. Very fun.
Hit the over in the first half. I blame Florio entirely.
Florio knows at this point that America counts on him to go against the grain and pick against what everybody else is picking. Yeah.
No, still dead tonight. Still went with the Eagles.
Just do it once in a while, Florio. Just be that guy for us.
But, yeah, crazy few days of sports. We have a lot to get recap.
We're going to do all of Sunday's games. Then at the end, we'll talk a little bit about Thanksgiving.
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Let's do some games. Let's start with probably the best game in terms of two playoff teams as of right now.
The Bengals 20, the Titans 16, the Cincinnati Bengals. We talked about it last week.
they're sitting basically at the exact same spot they were at last year when they ripped off all those wins and went all the way to the super bowl they go into nashville they get in a fist fight with the titans and come out with a win and the bangles are now the only team that are undefeated against the tennessee against mike vrabel's tennessee tit Yeah, Joe Burrow is now 3-0 against the Tennessee Titans. That's a trend, and the streak is officially over.
So the Tennessee Titans lost a game in which Derek Henry had one reception. Was it his only reception, the one that he fumbled? Let me look that up.
It might be. Because that would be a great asterisk.
No, he had another one. He had another one.
Okay. So, yeah, we were all thinking that they were going to win because he did get that one reception.
But it just turns out that the Bengals' defense in the second half, it's just legit eight out of 11 games this year, the Bengals' defense has not allowed a touchdown. They have gone.
So, outside of the Browns' game, which they just got worked, they can't beat the Browns for whatever reason and then the panthers game which was a blowout and they just played you know prevent and let them come score some points the second half if you count every other game so take those two games out the bengals are allowing 4.7 points in the second half in the entire season that's pretty crazy just every every halftime they go in and they make an adjustment and they're like, all right, now we're just going to shut them down. And the Bengals win this game with no Jamar Chase, no Joe Mixon, T.
Higgins looking like a superstar. I'm happy for T.
Higgins because everyone talks about Jamar Chase, rightfully so. Is he the best number two receiver in the league? T.
Higgins is pretty fucking good. Oh, Jake with a big, big no, no, no.
Waddle. Oh, no.
I don't know, Jake, because I feel like they've got two number one receivers. That's good.
Yeah. That's fair.
I'm talking about he's a true number two receiver. And also, is Tyreek a real number one? Because is he tall enough? You really need a tall guy to be your number one.
Tyreek Hill is kind of one of those gadget guys. Yeah, right.
He's more like a really – he's like the best number three ever. Yeah, no, he's like, yeah, the goat number three.
So, yeah, Waddle's a better number one, but T. Higgins is probably the best number two overall wide receiver.
He was awesome, and it does feel like he doesn't get any of the pub that Jamar Chase does because Jamar Chase is so incredible, but to have Jamar Chase be out for an extended stretch, and Joe Burrow needed T. Higgins today and relied on him, and he made an incredible touchdown catch.
He had over 100 yards. The Bengals are just – I'm mad at myself because I just – I know that I bet the wrong – and this is recency bias, but I should have just put a future on the Bengals, not the Ravens.
I think the Bengals are going to do what they did last year. And they'll be more fun to root for.
Yes, I'm probably just going to do that. The Ravens will be just, they'll make you want to tear your hair out.
I'm just going to end up at the end of the season with a future on every NFL team. I want to give credit to just the conditioning of the Bengals, because I feel like a lot of times you can say, oh, they're so good in the second half, they make great adjustments and they out-coach the other team, which they probably do.
What if they're just in much better shape than other teams? What if they just run more during practice? That's what our coaches used to always say. You want to be a second-half team? Okay, well, stick around because we're going to run for a half hour after practice.
I wonder if the Bengals do just more running. That might be a very dumb, basic way of looking at this team.
But it'd be very funny to see, like, what they do differently that makes them so much better in the second half, whether it is, like, okay, they do weird, like, they all work out like they're James Harrison. No, you just assume in college and pro that, like, all the teams have the same conditioning.
But then you will watch a team and be like, wait, they're stronger in the fourth quarter. Something is right.
That Skyline Chili gives you superpowers. Skyline Chili.
There was a big story about when Kirby Smart stole Nick Saban's, what do you call it? Fuck, my brain is so mush right now. Conditioning player? Conditioning, yeah, yeah.
His coach, the conditioning the conditioning coach yeah strength and conditioning coach and it was like this guy is the most important guy in any major college football program because he is with the players more than anyone else now obviously they don't do strength and conditioning the same way in the nfl but there are certain teams that i bet you they just do it better and they have guys that are in better shape and can run longer and not tire at the end of games and maybe the Bengals are that team. The Bengals are just doing suicides every day at the end of practice.
Whatever the cheap version is. That's what I'm saying.
All you need for that is a field with 100 yards worth of lines on it. I think they can handle that.
That would actually be funnyles uh the i think the only team like in the world that doesn't have an indoor practice facility

just has like a basketball court that they make them run suicides actually it's it's kind of like

the training montage in rocky where everybody else is hooked up to like ventilators yeah

monitoring their vo2 max and meanwhile the bangles are just so cheap that they're like okay go out

into this river and then swim out there and catch a fish with your bare teeth yeah and bring it back

run to kentucky and back yeah that's our entire strength and conditioning. Touch the state line.
Yes, back and forth. But yeah, the Bengals, they're just going to do it again.
And they have the game against the Chiefs next week, which if they win that game, I think that's when everyone's going to be like, oh shit, here come the Bengals again. And I don't really think less of the Titans.
It's more that the Titans are a well-coached team that has certain limitations. And, like, they have to almost play a perfect game to beat a team like the Bengals.
And they played a little less than perfect today. Yeah.
I mean, Derrick Henry had a pretty bad day today. Yeah, the Bengals defense was awesome.
The Bengals defense was awesome. DJ Reader was incredible at defensive tackle.
And then Mike Hilton, their running back, was also tackling Derrick Henry. And he's about my size.
They're not running back. They're cornerback.
Yeah, yeah. They're a cornerback.
He's like 5'8", 5'9", 180 pounds. He was just grabbing a leg.
Turns out to tackle Derrick Henry, you don't have to hit all of Derrick Henry. You just have to hit one leg and just hold on for dear life.
You have to just give him a flat tire on his shoes. Yeah you can just like grab onto his onto his leg like a like a four-year-old grabbing onto their dad walking through the living room then that should be enough to at least like delay and then after the game he was like uh he said we are who we thought we were which is like a nice little twist on it also very difficult if you're conjugating verbs to make sure that's correct but i think i think the Bengals never wavered in their confidence in themselves.

It was just everybody else being like,

oh, it's the Bengals. They might go back to being the

Bengals of old. But no, I think that

it's essentially the same team as last year.

Same coaching, most of the same players.

So they're still going to be pretty good.

And they're running the ball.

It feels like they're running the ball well and they have that

element to their offense. They're doing it all without

Jamar Chase, who when he comes back and now you have to worry about a go route just beating you at any moment. That changes how every defense has to play them.
But, yeah, I liked also Joe Burrow after the game said, when the going gets tough, I'm going to go to the guys that make plays, and T is that guy. He's talking about T Higgins and basically saying good teams or great teams win games like this, where you go in and it's a slugfest because it was.
It was always a one possession game. No team was able to get away from the other.
And the Titans, like they make those little mistakes. They made the mistake where they roughed the kicker and they could have had a chance to get the ball back with like two minutes left.
And then the game just ends with them kneeling it down. If you're a Titans fan, you kind of know that you're going to win that division again.
You're going to make the playoffs. And you've kind of, I would imagine, resigned yourself to the fact that you're not going to go anywhere in the playoffs.
Right? At this point, you understand that your team's too flawed. You just have to start hanging your hat on the back-to-back-to-back division champions at this point.
Be like, that's pretty impressive. We're the division champions.
No one can beat us. We repeated it.
This is our place until someone takes their crown. That's what you have to take pride in.
I feel like if you're a Titans fan, I think you're telling yourself if someone maybe knocks off the Chiefs and then we have one perfect game against the Bills. The way you could – the way the Titans play football is they make every game

just so miserable for the other team that you could – no Titans fan is like,

oh, yeah, we're going to win the Super Bowl.

But in a weird way, their style of play is like, yeah,

we could just ruin everyone else that we play,

and maybe we just play like three just terrible games to watch

and find a way to win them. Yeah, they're just constant spoilers constant spoilers yeah that's your best thing is just be a spoiler out there every week and if you can get to a place you have a couple of these weeks every season too if you're a titans fan where you get to play the nobody in the media ever talks about us card when you get pissed off like legitimately mad at the media for not showing you guys enough respect that's like your super bowl yes right there yeah so all you have to do yeah just just what just play good enough to be able to get mad at us for not talking about you guys this actually was the battle of those teams yeah bangles fans and titans fans are like who can the winner of this game is it basically just went directly on twitter and like will you please just shut up about the titans yeah the titans wanted like will you shut up about the bangles we beat them like that was that was the result of this game yep um okay oh trent taylor yeah another uh one catch who's who is a confirmed awl oh absolutely good friends with uh our good friend george kittle shout out trent you're listening right now what's up dude one catch one target eight yards another triple single for trent nice hell yes he is he's in our Hall of Fame.
Yes. The part of my take Hall of Fame, the triple single king.
The 1-1-1. One is all you need.
We need to make one of those graphics. Cock push-ups.
The Tony Snow graphic for just Trent Taylor's receiving line every single game. Yeah, so shout out Trent.
What's up, dude? Keep your eyes on the road. He also did a sweet backflip today while they were in victory.
Yes, that was cool. That was, that was pretty cool.
You hardly ever see that. Um, is he related to Zach Taylor? Is that how he got the job on the team? Probably.
Yeah. Nepotism.
Yeah. I think that is, I think that's Zach Taylor's cousin.
Yeah. So he's like, that's just why he's on the team and getting one catch and also doing, doing backflips.
Yeah. Put them in for the backflip victory formation.
Um, next up. Commanders 19, Falcons 13.
The Commanders steal one from the Falcons because it looked like the Falcons were going to win the game. And the Commanders now continue their march towards possibly the playoffs.
We're in the playoffs right now. This was a big game.
This is my official moment to say if the season ends today, which you never know, Putin's up to stuff, we would be in the playoffs. Yeah.
Incredible. We made it.
Congratulations. Very happy with the outcome of the game today.
There was some stuff before the game that I feel like we should talk about a little bit because I had this conversation with everybody here last year, the first time that we fucked up Shanta Taylor day and the the gist of my feelings at that point where Sean Taylor was a person he wasn't a marketing event right he wasn't something that you use to sell merchandise he was a man that died protecting his family in his house when he got murdered and he meant a lot of things to a lot of people. Myself included.
He's my favorite football player of all time. So for the second straight year, they managed to fuck up Sean Taylor Memorial Day.
Wait, what? That's got to be a record, right? They knew they fucked it up last year, so they had to have fixed it right with a statue or something. This is screwing up the makeup.
So on the team website, they called it the memorial event and the memorial setup that they had. It was the memorial installation is what they said.
They did also call it a statue on one part of their website before the event happened. Typically, I don't know how familiar you are with statues.
Statues generally have faces and heads and bodies and body parts. But remember the Ronaldo statue? Maybe they were trying to avoid that.
You can't fuck it up if you don't actually have a statue. Yeah.
Isn't it like art too? There's some subjection to it. Yeah, it's in the eye of the beholder.
Well, for people who didn't see it, it is essentially like the commanders went to sports authority and they're like, oh, you guys are going out of business. Let me get one of your Under Armour mannequins and I'll put them in the stadium and we'll put a Sean Taylor jersey on.
Yeah. And tell you what we'll do is we'll give him a Nike jersey, which he never played in Reebok Reebok pants and then Adidas shoes.
Oh, perpetrator. And then Haynes socks.
He was perpetrator. Damn.
Big time. It was it was really strange to say the least.
There was some other stuff that they had there that was pretty cool that his family had designed. I know his daughter was involved with making some of the designs, which was cool.
And there was a memorial fund. I get that.
It was awesome. So they did something right.
Well, I'm looking forward to them really nailing it on year three. It's going to be fun.
Of Sean Taylor Respect. It's now become kind of a cool, will how will they fuck this up let's see let's see new brand new ways that you can absolutely destroy memorial days for maybe maybe the best player that i've ever seen play football yeah um that all that out of the way uh there was also a big hat today yes which was which was brian robinson jr brian robinson jr wearing the big hat after he had a great game.
He broke 100 yards, was just smashing people up, running into faces. Wait, so hold on.
They ran the ball all over the Falcons, and the Falcons still haven't signed Will Compton? Yeah. Hmm.
Seems like they could use a guy like that to plug some holes. Some people are saying that Will Compton just didn't show up for this game because he was scared of the commanders.
Sounds like they could use a big belly man to just jump into some holes. Yeah.
I mean, if Will had been there today, I think you'd see a much different outcome. Yeah.
No. Will would have stopped this personally from happening.
I'm actually not counting this loss on the Falcons. This is a Will Compton loss.
Oh, wow. Yeah.
Personally. Will Compton 0-1 on the year.
I'm going to count it as a Will comp and win because the Falcons realized holy shit we really need will comp and year 10 has to happen now so there's a glaring need he is coming back right he did the video and everything I think so maybe um so possibly what are you saying what are you looking at saying no I don't he made the video saying he's back and then he does not year 10 I think the little I've talked to him, I don't want to talk out of school here, but I'll just say this. I think people are trying to stop Will Compton from having year 10.
Goodell? He wants to get into year 10. He is ready to go.
My guy is in shape, best shape of his life, never looked better. He actually looks like a Nebraska Will Compton.

That's the pop he has right now.

And the NFL is like, no, no, no, no.

We can't have a guy like you who's so incredibly gifted both on and off the field playing in the NFL anymore.

And that's all I'll say about that.

It's sad that they're keeping him out of it.

Free Willie.

Yeah.

The commies are 6-1. No, not actually because we've seen him in his boxers.
The commies are 6-1 in their last seven, which is – that happened all of a sudden. I mean, Taylor Heineke, all he does is win.
He didn't even play good today. No, he played okay.
He made some good throws. He wasn't good.
There was one part of the game, I think, where he went 0 for 6. Besides that.
He had a really bad interception. He had a bad.
Well, it was like across the field. He was a little bit slow getting to it.
Which would make it bad. Well, it's not that.
It wasn't a pick 6. No, I'm saying there's a compliment to Taylor Heineke.
He did not have his best game, and they still found a way to win. And that's just something about Taylor Heineke.
All he does is win. Yeah.
Listen, Taylor Heineke at this point has proven, I think, that he's a good quarterback. I'm getting close to the point where I'm just ready to – I'm dangerously close to saying he's the guy.
I'm very close. He was 14 for 23 for 138 yards.
I wouldn't say that was great. It wasn't great, but I'm still thinking.
Yeah, no. So he's so cheap at the quarterback position he's going to continue to be cheap why not just build around him he wins football games I don't want anybody to talk me out of him being the guy just yet because it's even it feels good to maybe think possibly he might be the guy you've seen me do it all year and you're like I want that well no I mean he's not that Justin Fields is that dude Taylor Heineke could be the guy you do it all year and you're like i'm i want that well no i mean he's not he's not that justin fields is that dude yeah no we'll tell it how to keep the guy could be the guy which is like a step below that dude he um and also we should say that he possibly could have played not his best because he looked like he injured his elbow and it was one of those moments like on a handoff it's very weird and And I think there can't be a scarier moment.
Like, when a starter gets hurt, every fan goes through, holy shit, our season's over. The fact that the backup almost gets hurt and you're like, holy shit, we have to watch Carson Wentz again? Yeah.
It's a wild, like, I actually turned to you, I was like, I don't want to see Carson Wentz in this game. No one wants to see Carson Wentz in this game.
Carson Wentz didn't want to a it's a wild like I actually turned to you I was like I don't want

to see Carson Wentz in this game no one wants to see Carson Wentz Carson Wentz didn't want to be

in that game it's more significant than like Patrick Mahomes getting hurt because the world

does not want to see Carson Wentz play football anymore just Taylor Heineke is the one who's

holding he's holding this together he is he is the the Carson Wentz stopper so he has to stay

healthy because Carson Wentz was going to get in the game probably do something stupid I would get

Thank you. holding this together.
He is the Carson Wentz stopper, so he has to stay healthy. Because Carson Wentz was going to get in the game, probably do something stupid.
I would get mad at Carson Wentz, but then I would feel bad about being mad at Carson Wentz because he's just so sad. So, yeah, I didn't want to see that either.
I think he had a funny bone thing. Whatever it was, he got better at the end.
Our defense, bend but don't break. The defensive line is still really good, even without Chase Young.
Again, he was not being a cheerleader this time. I think he was sick, so they didn't have him play in the game today.
But he's been activated. But he's been activated.
He's officially activated. I really believe in this defense.
They're doing something special there. The offense has been just good enough, playing safe enough football.
And Taylor Heineke, you know what he does? He makes throws when it counts. Yeah.
When you need one, he's got you. He's got you.
He's got none of the bells and all the whistles and all that stuff. But he's like a solid 1997 Honda Civic.
Never break down, get you point A to point B all the time, no problem. That's true.
When you need a big third down conversion, it feels like Taylor Heineke will either get it for you or figure out a way to get a flag for you. Something's going to happen to get you that first down.
Yeah, as long as he doesn't explode or steer off the road, which he has a tendency to do from time to time, but the numbers don't lie. Fact or fiction, the commies are 6-1 in their last seven.
Yeah, Taylor Heineke is 5-1 as a starter this year. Black and red.
Great combination to get a new pair of Jordans, too. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that's true. That's like the whole world's open.
Is he going to get all black, do you think? Like the black with the red highlights on it? You can go either way. That would look hard.
Yeah, the Falcons, I don't know what to – I mean, they're just – it feels like every chance they have to possibly take a step forward to maybe finding a way to win the NFC South they just go backwards I think this entire division is destined to finish with the exact same amount of wins because now you have the Bucks at five and six the Falcons at five and seven the Panthers now have four wins so they're four and eight and the Saints are four and eight yeah So they're all just right there they're right there no one's out of it and uh and at this point every NFC East team would be in the playoffs which is it's crazy to say uh that's a good and a bad thing you mentioned the Bucs still being alive this would put the Cowboys and the Bucs matching up in the first round of the playoffs right now Tom Brady Brady has never lost to the Cowboys. Wow.
And it would also put myself facing off against Kirk Cousins. Oh, that would be tough.
That would not be fun for you. No, it would not.
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Browns $23, Bucs $17. PFDI, I have some unfortunate news for you.
Todd Bowles is a really shitty head coach. Yeah, he stinks.
He is so bad. And the Bucs, the Bucs have their problems.
They're not a good football team. I would say they're like, they basically go from slightly below average to slightly above average on any given Sunday.
But this game, if you're a Bucs fan, and we know Stephen Shea, who will not do this, so I'll do it for him, this game is 100% on Todd Bowles. He coached like a fucking coward.
He doesn't know who is the Bucs should have won this game they gave it to the Browns no disrespect to the Browns because I'm happy for Jacoby Brissett but the Bucs handed this game away and they did it three different times I'll take you through them the first time it's the fourth quarter it was 17-10 Bucs it's 4th and 2 from cleveland 37 pft the cleveland 37 fourth and two 17 10 fourth quarter go get a first down get a you know get a first down get a field goal make it a 10 point game make it so the browns cannot come back what does he do he takes a delay a game and he punts into the end zone for what a 22 yard net punt like the third i haven't seen david shaw who just who just retired and walked away from stanford that's a david shaw special 37 yard line 37 yard line you punt next time 659 same score the game was basically 17 10 for the entire second half and the bucks were like, let's just hopefully we can punt our way to winning this game.

Six 59 left fourth and three from the Cleveland 48.

You have Tom Brady as your quarterback.

They punt.

And then the last one,

which I still like,

I don't understand whatsoever.

You have again,

Tom Brady is your quarterback.

I'm pretty sure that guy's had a bunch of comebacks and can get a team down

the field pretty quickly.

32 seconds left tie game. You have all three timeouts and he runs a screen play and doesn't use the timeout then tom brady throws it to julio jones to midfield and then he uses the timeout there's eight seconds left there's nothing you can do yeah i don't understand this is where you miss bruce arians because bruce arians love him or hate him he was a big time fuck it you need a fuck-it guy sometimes.
You don't really win big games without having a guy that's not afraid to just get ridiculed by everybody for having something blow up in his face. Bruce Arians was absolutely 100% that guy.
He loved to do fuck shit out there. Todd Bowles, he's so conservative when it comes to these play calls.
The touchback that you mentioned, I think that was the first one. Yeah.
It was ridiculous. If it's fourth and two, why are you trying to draw them off sides? Like Tom Brady, probably without looking at it, I would imagine that on fourth and two plays, Tom Brady is probably in the 60 to 80 percentile when it comes to converting those over the course of his career.
And I guess Todd Bowles is just like, I don't know, maybe he's just used to coaching quarterbacks on the Jets that just aren't able to do those sorts of things. You're right.
He forgets who his quarterback is sometimes. And this was the first time that Tom Brady, so he's 218-0 besides this game when he's up by seven or more points in the last two minutes of the fourth quarter.
Now he's 218-1. It's crazy.
They essentially were like, 17-10, we're good. We don't need to score any more points.
We don't need to try to win this game. Todd Bowles, like, and I don't know how it all broke down how Tom Brady ended up getting Todd Bowles as the head coach.
head coach like we we we think that maybe he and bruce arians had a falling out and if they did that was a big mistake that was a fdx level mistake by him because now you got a guy and byron left which deserves some blame too because they their play calling is so conservative and you have tom brady as your as your fucking quarterback like that was such a winnable game that they just completely pissed away. And again, no disrespect to Jacoby Rissett, who I'm happy who he got a win on his final start because Sean Watson's coming back.
The catch that Njoku made was insane. But it was like watching one of those games where you were just like, how long are the Bucs planning on punting and hoping that they can stop the Browns? Eventually, the Browns will put together a drive here, and eventually they did.
Both teams kind of played the same formula, where neither team felt like they wanted to win this game. So they just kept being more conservative than the last, punting back and forth, back and forth, back and forth.
It's funny you mentioned the crypto thing, because Bruce Arians is probably most like crypto. Yeah.
You're either on the moon, or you're like calling your family to apologize. What are we doing here? Like, sorry for making everybody do this last Thanksgiving.
Yes. And then Todd Bowles is basically like 10 years of a bond.
Yeah. He's just putting your money away in a nice, safe- Mattress.
Yeah. Yeah.
Under your mattress or you're going to be like, what is it? Your IRA? Is that it? Yeah, the Roth IRA. Roth IRA.
Tax-free. Sure.
We're not financial consultants here. But yeah, he's basically like, you know what, I'm going to earn 0.02% on all my money forever.
Yeah, but it's not going anywhere. Yeah, it's never going anywhere.
But he's always going to be hovering around like 6-11, 7-10. He's a bad coach, and I don't understand how he doesn't get all that.
I think now you're going to start seeing it. I think he's got a pass because he's still relatively new in this position.
But as much as this season has gone past, you can now look at the body work and be like, yeah, he's definitely costing them points. maybe he just thinks that his defense is that good where his motto is like maybe he thinks he's coaching the the broncos he's like if i just get 17 points then we should win every game that we're it's crazy i've i that game was so maddening because if you're a player too like i can't believe tom brady isn't like hey dude i'm tom brady like what are we doing here let's fucking let's go for it on fourth and two on the 37.
He could probably quarterback sneak. I bet you most of Tom Brady's QB sneaks end up being two yards long.
Yeah, he's that automatic at him. It's crazy.
So, yeah, that was a totally like just when you think the Bucs might have turned a corner, they win a couple games in a row. They have this.
I also there's no stat behind this. just, watching NFL football every Sunday, Mike Evans leads the league in balls that are very close to his hands that he doesn't actually extend for.
Oh, yeah? I just feel like every Sunday I watch him, and I'm not trying to say that he's a great receiver, but it feels like every Sunday there's at least three or four times, and maybe they're just not on the same page, there'll be a pass that from where I'm sitting,

so maybe the angle's wrong,

I'm like, he maybe could have caught that

if he had extended or dove for it,

and he just doesn't even attempt for it.

Well, he does have super long arms.

He had that a couple times today,

and Stephen Shea was just like,

well, he didn't see the ball.

It's like, really?

It's a big part of the job.

Yeah, that would be number one thing of his job, is track the the ball yeah uh so the browns end up at four and seven without deshaun watson at the start of the season if you were to say they end up four and seven i think most people would say yeah that's probably exactly what i thought they would be and but they still have to just they're going to kill themselves for that that jets game yeah because that's that's one of those ones where it's like the difference between 4-7 and 5-6 feels like 100 wins. I think that's the biggest gap between a one-game delta that there can be.
5-6, you're ready to go. 5-6, Deshaun gets there.
And you're going to the playoffs. You're thinking, yeah, I'm going to make the playoffs.
But yeah, I guess that's exactly what you bargained for when you got Jacoby Brissett. Yeah.
Yeah, and I like Jacoby Brissett. I think he definitely earned himself a backup role for a very long time because there was moments where it's like, ooh, Jacoby Brissett, things are looking okay.
And there was moments. He had a hell of a block today out in the open field, too.
Yeah, he did. He's a big boy.
I don't like the Browns all brown uniforms. The neon Browns? I don't like them.
It just looks like a cheap suit. It's funny.
When you think of the color brown, you don't really think of color rush as much. And they tried to do a color rush, which I still, I don't know.
It's so brown. You must admit that as far as Browns go, it's pretty brown.
I just like the Browns jerseys. They're classic jerseys.
I think they're some of the best jerys in the nfl yep and so when they do the color rush like i don't know um i still think that the browns they've they've had so many heartbreaking moments on that field when the elf is at midfield yeah you gotta i know you just put it in this year but you gotta sometimes read the signs from the gods yeah it's like okay maybe well i guess today they had it and it ended up working out for them. But I don't know.
I just, I still get bad vibes. I get like creepy Halloween stabby doll vibes.
Yeah. From every time you see it.
Yeah. There was a car on the field this week.
There was a car. Yeah.
What do you mean? On the Brownsville. You guys didn't see this? No.
No. There was a car that broke into the stadium.
Oh my God. And that's so Cleveland.
And did donuts on the field? Yeah. That kind of rocks.
That's so Cleveland. Okay, I like that.
Yeah. That guy rules.
That seems like, yeah, that's a cool guy move. That was also, that guy probably was just, like, really amped up for Ohio State Michigan.
You know, like, the whole week was just a lot. Do we know what kind of car it was? I can look into it more.
I would speculate a Thunderbird. a thunderbird move it could just be like a like oh four corolla it's probably miles garrett yeah it could have been miles garrett yeah he just got lost um yeah the uh yeah the bucks are just they're maddening and they'll still make the playoffs and we just have to remember that they're not a good team yeah well i was todd bulls sucks as Todd Bowles sucks as a coach.
Todd Bowles does suck as a coach. I was thinking about them because I don't – I was trying to think, are they one of the worst good teams or one of the best bad teams? No, they're a good bad team.
Really? Because I think they're actually like a bad average team. I think they're the best bad team right now.
Because they do bad things. They do really bad things.
They're bad boys. Yeah, but not in a good way.
Not in a good way. They play the Saints on Monday Night Football.
I'm sure they'll win. Actually, I'm going to take the Saints.
This could be the Saints, yeah. This is the Saints.
By the way, we're all playing hurt and injured. I have a sore throat.
PFT's got jet lag. Hank, are you better?

Yeah, I'm great.

You feeling good?

I'm rested up.

Yeah, you got us all sick.

I'm glad.

Just handed it to us.

You just handed it off.

You were so sick last week.

Or was it the person who's not even here because he's sick?

Oh, that's right.

Yeah, Billy's not here.

I was sick like three weeks ago.

All right, next up, Jaguars.

What were you going to say, Jake?

You got it?

I think it was a competitor.

Oh. Oh.
Oh. Yeah.
Shame. I'm looking to confirm.
Okay. Jaguars 28, Ravens 27, Trevor Lawrence.
This was the Trevor Lawrence game. Trevor Lawrence has arrived.
If you're a Jaguars fan, this is the game you will have in your head for this. This buys you like three more years of Trevor Lawrence.
Yeah. I mean, he was awesome in the fourth quarter.
Incredible in the fourth quarter. In that last drive, it was weird watching the Jaguars execute that drive competently.
It didn't register with me because it had quite literally never happened before. Yeah.
So in terms of where they found themselves at the end of that game, the Jaguars, they were 0-183 in franchise history when trailing by seven or more in the final minute of regulation.

They're now 1-183.

This is the first time that's ever happened.

It felt like everyone expected the Jaguars to blow it.

It was something about the teal uniforms,

like them coming back in those teal uniforms, the teal pants. It just didn't look normal.
And he had third down conversions. He had fourth down conversions.
He made tough throws. It was a legitimate, like, it was a nut-dropping moment for Trevor Lawrence.
Yeah, he had two drives in the fourth quarter, 75-yard touchdown drives, some fourth down, yeah, like you said, fourth down conversions. They go for it with the two-point conversion to win the game in regulation it was an awesome trevor lawrence game now uh doug almost fucked it up though yeah he did with the squib kick which would that would have been the most classic jaguars moment ever you're you're highly touted but emotionally shaky uh star quarterback leads you down the field for what should be like a career stepping stone.
This is, yeah. And then your coach kicks a squib kick.
They return it to the 40-yard line. You might as well have kicked it out of bounds.
And then they get a few more yards, and then the best kicker of all time comes on, attempts a 67-yard field goal to win the game. That's how it felt like it was going to end up.
But Justin Tuckerucker was like two yards short washed yeah it's justin tucker overrated it is like the it was a joke the thought crossed my mind but it just shows how good he is that we all thought he was going to hit that yeah and he was dead center he was dead center we also got from this game an all-time lamar uh tweet afterwards uh someone named castle will kill uh said when someone is asking for over 250 million guaranteedtime Lamar tweet afterwards, someone named Castle Will Kill said,

when someone is asking for over $250 million guaranteed like Lamar Jackson,

games like this should not come to Justin Tucker.

Let Lamar walk and spend that money on a well-rounded team.

And he replied, boy, shut the fuck up.

Y'all be capping too much on this app.

Motherfucker never smelt a football field, never did shit, but eat a dick.

Well said, Lamar. I think that the Ravens should cut him for this, actually.
I think that they should not pay him. They should cut him and let any other team out there that potentially would like to take a look at Lamar go ahead and pick him up.
Lamar Jackson is undisputably a great quarterback. It's funny how many people are starting to turn on him because he'll have – this was also a butt week for Lamar.
Remember that. He had a bad butt issue.
He did. Early this week.
Also – Anytime after Thanksgiving with Lamar, I feel like there's probably a high likelihood of food poisoning. I would say Gus Edwards in that fumble was pretty bad.
And your defense, which is supposed to be the strength of your team giving up two 75 yard drives to trevor lawrence those were i'm not trying to like make excuses for lamar but i i would point to he didn't play great but i'd point to those being like hey those are pretty significant like gus edwards form of the ball just basically dropped it right in the in the red zone credit to defense for holding to a field goal, but that was a significant, significant change in the game. Yeah, listen, Lamar didn't have a great game today, but I would love to see what the Ravens would look like without Lamar Jackson and just see how quickly Ravens fans would be like, we fucked up.
I'm sorry. I'm so sorry.
Because, like, yeah, Huntley's good. He's a good quarterback.
I think he's one of the more fun backups. But, like, if you think that you are a better team without Lamar Jackson or that he's not worth $250 million, yeah, what was that last part of it? You've never smelled a football field to eat a dick? No, you never.
I'll do the whole thing. Boy, shut the fuck up.
Y'all be capping too much on this app. Motherfucker never smelt a football field.
Never did shit but eat dick. Yeah.
Yeah, that's what you are if you think that Lamar Jackson should not be resigned. Lamar actually said it perfectly.
I'm looking at the guy who tweeted it, and I get Lamar just replying like that. I know sometimes people will be like, oh, Lamar, why do you care about these haters? I kind of would be that.
I would be like that, too, every now and then, where it's like, you're just sitting on your couch. You're like, you look like you've never done anything athletic.
And you're telling me that I don't deserve this money. Fuck you, dude.
I would be pissed about that every now and then. You can tell that dude's a real alpha male in his in his picture he's doing like the smirk he took a picture of himself yeah so he looks like a like if nick tyranny he looks like nick if nick's profile is one of those guys that say like my second language is sarcasm yeah and i owner of three cats yeah yeah he's doing like the jim halpert that that guy ain't smelled a football field nothing but eat a dick he just eats dicks.
All day. Not in like a homophobic way.
That's just his diet. Yeah, the majority of his diet is dick.
It's like elk penis. Yes, he's just going and just eating dick.
He's like, yeah, what's that guy's name? Andrew Zimmern? Yeah. The Bizarre Foods guy? Yeah.
All that guy does is eat dick. Eat dick all day.
So this guy just has a Bizarre Foods diet and then just watches television and doesn't understand football. Yeah, but I get like get it i don't know it's like well kevin durant when i i've kind of switched on it where it's like i kind of understand when when they're just like you know what fuck you guys every now and then just say fuck you to someone online and it probably makes you feel better and people will be like oh he's triggered like no i bet you lamar closed his phone after that and was like i feel better yeah he definitely made him feel better and i also think that it probably made people like lamar more absolutely absolutely but uh yeah the ravens it it felt like they were going in the right direction and their blown lead thing just came back to bite them and uh they were up 1910 in the fourth quarter that's what they do felt like they were gonna win it yeah it felt like like they had gotten over that phase because they've had a few weeks where they haven't done that.
But now I guess they're back to that. So, yeah, their offense has problems, big-time problems.
Yeah, so this is also a that's-so-Ravens moment because how we went back and talked about how the 2011 Ravens had Joe Flacco. They weren't going to extend him.
They end up winning the Super Bowl. They have to pay him.
Also in 2011, the Ravens lost to the Jaguars, like shockingly, which put them into a tie for first place in the division, just like it happened today. It's 2011 all over again.
Ooh, okay. And we also saw Deshaun Jackson.
Shout out to Deshaun Jackson.

64-yard catch in someone.

I think Max even was like, that's Deshaun Jackson.

We're like, whoa, that is Deshaun Jackson.

Yep, he's still fast.

Yeah, and he's probably going to get injured soon.

But that was cool to see him out there.

He caught a really long ball and then went right down because he was like,

fuck this, I'm going to get injured.

Okay, Jaguars are nice.

He's like a cheetah, though. Cheetahs, they can run faster than anybody else, but then they have to lie down for the rest of the day to spend all their energy.
I think that's what Deshaun did today. I think he was like, okay, I ran, I'm tired, and just sat down.
By the way, next week, next Sunday, we have, I'm going to dub it, who's got next, or next up bowl, the Jaguars versus Lions. Feels like both those teams are in the same spot.
So you think that – Who's next up? Either the Jags or the Lions are going to be one of the elite teams. Next up.
Okay. Next up next year.
I got the Lions. All right.
Lions got next. All right.
I got Lions too. Yeah.
The next up bowl. Because this was the Jaguars Super Bowl today.
Yeah. I've learned this year that the Jaguars can be good in moments.
Oh, yeah. But the Jaguars also tend to look at these big, like these great games that they have for themselves, and they think like, okay, yeah, we got this.
There's no real use in us going out there and proving it again. We're not going to make the playoffs.
Yeah, I mean, look at the Jaguars season. They have seven losses, but then they also beat the Ravens.
They pasted the Chargers, and they pasted the Colts. It's like, oh, okay.
Look at this. These are significant.
Like, hey, whoa, these are really good wins. Okay.
Next up, Jets 31, Bears 10. So, Billy is sick.
He is not here. But this game really didn't matter.
Actually, it did. The Chicago Bears now have the second pick in the draft.
If the season ended right now. I was going to say it matters for a much bigger reason than that.
You guys are the only team in the NFL to defeat the coin. Yeah, that's true.
The coin has been bested. Hang the banner right now.
Specifically beat the coin. We got completely robbed of a late-breaking Nathan Peterman start.
That's such bullshit. It sucked.
That sucks. Nathan Peterman, when he started trending because, who was it, Jay Glazer said that, like, uh-oh, watch out.
It looks like... Simeon heard his oblique.
Yeah, pulled his oblique in warm-ups. We're getting Nathan Peterman.
Everybody, all of America, flocked to their televisions. He's like a gun.
You can't pull out a Nathan Peterman and not use him. Right.
And the reason why, I mean, like Trevor Simeon obviously was like, fuck this, I'm playing because if I can play well, which he didn't really. I mean, he had two nice drives.
But he's like, if I can play well, I can use this for my next contract. I would love to see what the reaction on the Jets' sideline was.
Like what kind of actual preparation did they make when they heard that they might be facing nathan peterman instead of trevor simian yeah like what adjustments did they start to put in place yes being like oh shit okay we gentlemen we've talked about this we've discussed what could happen we repaired our backup plan we're enacting that like what do you do differently just put like more defensive backs out there it's it's it's pretty simple i mean they they they showed them walking out of the tunnel together and they just look like the same guy yeah it's like they have the same skill set of nothing yeah no offense nice people not really nice people like them both as people yeah skill set enough we i think the body of evidence is is large enough on both of them to know exactly who we're getting Was it Russillo that was like, as America and as sports fans, we're starting to take mental health more seriously across the board unless it's Nathan Peterman? Yeah. And then everybody just like, let's laugh at that guy.
Yeah, it just rips him. It goes the same for Russell Westbrook.
Yeah, that's true. Basically, those two guys, the world has just decided we can just rip them apart.
Yep. But yeah, this game crushed the bears their defense is elite i've said it a million times and mike white i don't know i mean i'll just throw out a stat mike white has started four games for the jets he has two games of those four with three touchdown passes zach wilson has started 20 games for the.
He has never done that. I'm just going to throw that out there.
But he's Patrick Mahomes. He's got the ceiling of Patrick Mahomes.
That's where the upside is. Yeah, that's where he does have it.
So I think the Zach Wilson thing happened after we went off for break, right? I think it happened like late Tuesday. I think.
Yeah. So it was Billy's hot seat.
So we didn't have the full details, but I think it was all the saying he wouldn't commit. Yeah.
Yeah. So, so I, how do they go back to him? I don't know.
Like deactivating him, making him, was this like the last teachable moment for Zach Wilson? Do you, does this happen? Can you go back to him? I don't think you can. Yeah, you can.
The only way that it happens is if Mike White goes out there, completely shits the bed, and they put him in in the fourth quarter and he looks competent. But it was really mean of this locker room must hate Zach Wilson so,, so much because the Bears defense was the perfect get right.
Like the Bears defense gives up points to everyone. So Zach Wilson would have probably looked OK.
And instead, he was just sitting on the sideline. They put up the stat that he gained.
So 2.5 inches on every play in the second half against the Patriots. Very sad.
They kept showing him on the sidelines, too. And we are body language experts here on Part of My Take.
I didn't see a lot of teammates hanging out with him on the sidelines. I don't think he's well-liked.
He was just looking kind of wet and cold in the rain. Yeah.
What were you going to say, Hank? I don't know how they put him back in. He's got to win back the locker room.
How? He apologized to everyone. I think that takes time.
I think what PFT said, you need to show it with how he carries himself for the next few weeks, and then if something happens where he can get in the game, maybe win them a game, and that's his only way. Someone's got to fuck his mom.
Yeah, Mike White. Yeah, and then he has to get into a fight with that guy.

No, Elijah Moore.

Yeah, Elijah Moore has to fuck his mom.

Then Zach Wilson has to knock Elijah Moore out.

Yeah.

And then they need to trade Elijah Moore.

Yeah.

That's really the roadmap because they might,

I don't know, the locker room might hate Elijah Moore more than they hate Zach Wilson.

I don't know, he caught a touchdown today

and he's good friends with Mike White apparently.

Also, Garrett Wilson has, I think he's got four touchdowns on the year. He has two each from White and Flacco, zero from Zach Wilson.
Kind of interesting stat there. It's, yeah.
I think the Jets fans are probably, I mean, they're happy. They should have beaten the Bears today.
The Bears are not good, especially without Justin. Justin Fields being out of this game made the Bears.
It actually, I was texting my friends, like, because I've said it before, I want them to win a couple more games with Justin Fields because I wanted to see him win a game. But without him, it's full-on tank.
Like, there's no reason. There was no part of me that was like, I hope the Bears win this game because it does nothing but hurt them in the future.
And rooting for the Bears to lose is like a cathartic experience because they're a juggernaut at that. Yeah.
Do you know what I mean? Like, being like, I don't want the Bears to win this game. Just reversing my entire mindset about the Bears.
I was like, I want them to lose this game. And competent at that yeah we got this they know how to do that very very well so it was like it was like the easiest sunday of my life yeah it is it's crazy that it was against the jets and you're like we this is gonna be easy for us yeah i've trained my entire life i mean the jets are a way better team than the bears right now the uh that that one play where it was like a fumble on on the goal, and it was just like passed around five times.
That was just a perfect Jets-Bears play. And yeah, I don't know.
The Bears are a juggernaut at losing. So good news for all the Zach Wilson fans out there.
It looks like the Jets are going to be playing the Vikings next week, and then after that, the Jets are playing at the Bills. It could be a rough couple weeks for Mike White.
I don't know. The Vikings defense isn't great.
At which case do you then bring Zach Wilson back for a home game against the Lions, who have a terrible defense? Christian Watson is so fucking fast. Holy shit.
Jordan Love, by the way, is in the game. Christian Watson? Yes.
I love it. Jordan Love is in the game.
Let's go. Aaron Rodgers went to the locker room, probably to the thumb.
Get a percocet? With a thumb. With a thumb.
But yeah, you were right. I think that maybe...
I just don't know how you do the... Like, if Mike White plays competent football, the Jets become a legitimate playoff threat.
Yeah, to make the play... Yeah.
not only that but like i like that's the craziest part about zach wilson if come on their defense is that good i honestly believe their defense is that good to make the playoffs yeah no but i'm saying like if they got if if if the jets had been getting uh bus quarterback play this year,

they would probably have two more wins, maybe.

Yeah.

Like, they would be a team that you'd be looking like,

holy shit, the Jets are whatever, 9-2 or something like that.

Like, that's how bad Zach Wilson has been.

He's been literally the worst quarterback in the NFL.

So if Mike White is B-minus quarterbacking,

I think you've got to just keep rolling with him and be like,

this is our best chance to win. Also, the coin is dead, by the way.
Yeah, the coin is dead. Were you listening to earlier in the segment? That's okay.
That's right, Hank. You're sick.
The coin is dead. You got us sick.
Yeah. You're sick in the head.
Yeah, that was basically it for the Jets-Bears game. I mean, that was – I don't know.
It just doesn't feel like anything without Justin Fields. The Bears literally went from, I think it was the Panthers loss, or the Panthers win and someone else won that got the Bears up to the number two pick.
Yeah, it was the, shit, who was it? Panthers? The drivers are insane. Was it Seattle? Oh, yeah, the Raiders.
The Raiders winning. The Raiders winning, definitely.
And I think the Jaguars. There's a couple three-win teams that won today that the Bears were able to jump.
So I feel good. That's good.
The second pick is a real pick. It's great, yeah.
That's a fucking big-time pick. And you also get to have an entire offseason about trading back.
Yeah. I feel like we'd love to trade back with anybody.
I would love to get more picks. Get more picks because you don't need a quarterback and someone's going to want a corner someone always wants a quarterback there are some very good quarterbacks oh boy uh okay before we get to the next game pft you got a quick word from one of our sponsors yeah new sponsor alert brand new sponsor alert yeah i love it hank great job from 87 north the Filmm filmmakers of Hobbs and Shaw, John Wick, Atomic Blonde, Bullet Train, and Nobody, Violent Night is an action-packed alt-Christmas thriller with a dash of magic.
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And he's so fast. He's huge, fast.
He should not have slipped in the draft as he did. I do not like him.
He is very, very fast. Okay, so next up, Panthers 23.
This is funny real quick. I just named search Christian Watson on Twitter, trying to bring up the video of it.
And the first two tweets that I see are from Eagles fans being like, why the hell wasn't he on Howie's radar during the draft? Oh, that's perfect. Just mad at Howie.
That is perfect. Good sports town, Max.
Great sports town. Always.
All right. Panthers 23, Broncos 10.
I guess we should start with the Panthers. Sam Darnold with the funniest touchdown run of all time where he stopped, dropped, and rolled into the end zone.
No one touched him. If you haven't seen this, go watch it because it is very, very funny.
He just fumbled. No one was near him.
Got the ball and rolled like a toddler into the end zone, which I was looking up because we didn't put this game on TV. And when I saw that Sam Darnold had a touchdown run, I was like, oh, he probably got a sneak or something.
And then I saw that like five minutes later. I was like, wait, that's how he scored? It's a great strategy.
It really was. It's like better than the fake slide that Kenny Pickett did.
My favorite moment of quarterbacks today was Russell Wilson just got cussed the fuck out. Oh, big time.
Like really cussed out by one of his teammates. Mike Purcell.
Mike Purcell just like sprinted over to him, got into his face. And you could see Wilson, like he realized that, okay, at this point, you just got to take it.
Everyone hates me. I think it was the first moment where he's like, I shouldn't say Broncos country.
You know what? I'm actually on Russ Wilson's side in this. I think Mike Purcell, that's his name.
Yeah. He's just, he's not unlimited.
He's telling on himself for being limited. Yeah.
And so it's everybody else's fault but Russ Wilson. Russ, have faith.
Stay the course. Everything will work out.
I also, my favorite part of that video was the fact that Nathaniel Hackett was right there and just pretending it didn't exist. Yeah.
What are you going to do? He was the this is fine dog sitting in the fire. What are you going to do? He's like, all right, so a defensive player is just screaming at our franchise quarterback that we paid hundreds of millions of dollars to, essentially just showing everyone on the team that they don't respect him.
I'm fine. Let's go for this one.
All right, what's the next play? Okay, we're going to punt? Okay, cool. What do you do if you're Nathaniel Hackett at this point? Because he seems like a guy that he could resign.
He could step down. I was thinking about this.
And by the way, that moment, I wouldn't have put it past Nathaniel Hackett to do like, you know when you're in an awkward moment or like you see someone you don't want to run into and you pretend the phone call? He should have just taken his phone out of his pocket. I don't think they're allowed to have phones in their pockets, but he should have just been like, oh, I'm on the phone.
Because the conversation, Russell Wilson getting cussed out was right next to him. Yeah, I would have just thrown a challenge flag.
Just so the ref could come over to me, I could act like I was busy, have something to do, and at the very least have a conversation and be like, I'd like to challenge that last play, and then be like, what are you challenging? And like oh i forgot i i was thinking about this and i want to phrase this correctly because i do i like nathaniel hacken as a person yes but do you think there's ever been an interview we've done that we got less out of and we gave up so much in terms of making fun of a coach for being so bad at his job. Well, we didn't we didn't know.
Right. I know.
I'm saying, like, if we could if present day us could go back to Denver, Colorado during grit week when they're like, hey, do you guys want to hack it? We would have been like, no, we we want to roast this guy. Yeah, we do not want to meet him because we're going to like him because, again, he's guy but holy shit he's a bad football coach it's actually um it's actually a very bad job on our part we should not interview brand new coaches anymore no we should we should let them suck first we should wait and then see what what it is we're going to want to make fun of them about and then at that point we'll say okay because he was so charming that he really he really did actually not just to us but to the listeners a part of my take yes really a disservice and matt the content that we would be bringing out of this guy if we didn't like him would i i feel like it would be great now i want to save time during the interview um and again great guy he did tell us straight up that when we were asking him about like uh decision making and offenses that he wanted to run and how he how he looked at like game planning he did say that the owners of the broncos didn't really get much into football with him yeah they wanted to know more about just like him as a person and he's a great person and whether or not maybe aaron rogers could come join right.
So that's kind of what happened with that one, we think.

Because ideally, if you're interviewing a football coach,

you probably want to ask him about football.

Yeah, no, absolutely.

I would say that's probably the first thing you want to ask him.

I'm going to say right now, I'm ready to just, like,

we should just roast him because we might not have him for very long.

Like, this is going to end in him getting fired.

So I think we need to, I think Nathaniel Hackett would understand. we've been very nice yeah we've been very nice you fucked up a lot we gotta like this is like you you know you're not friends unless you can really bust balls hey nathaniel hackett like to show that we're friends like i can be like hey dude you might be the worst coach of all.
Like that's just us busting balls. Maybe ever.
Yeah, like ever. And the thing is, he's so nice of a guy.
Like ever is a long time. He's probably not going to throw Russell Wilson under the bus.
Yeah. Urban at least had like that one game where it felt like the guys were going in the right direction.
Even the Broncos wins don't feel like that. Yeah, and at least Urban was like was out there doing cool stuff like and urban's been an incredible college coach one of the best college coaches of all time nathanao hackett has ever he might be ever and uh like i said he's too nice of a guy to throw russell wilson completely under the bus because he's just going to be just straight up like he could if he if he was a little bit more cutthroat he could like bench russell wilson But he's not going to be just straight up.
He could, if he was a little bit more cutthroat, he could bench Russell Wilson. But he's not going to do that.
Also, he's probably not empowered to do that. No, he probably can't do that.
Russell Wilson can bench him. And McDaniels, by the way, started 6-0.
So that's different. For those Broncos, yeah.
For those Broncos, which he has. It's bad.
It's really bad. I don't really know what else to say besides, dude, like maybe you should have stayed in med school.
I still feel like he could, once he does get fired or quits, he's probably going to come onto the show and do a very illuminating, funny interview about just how in over his head that he was. I don't think anybody's been as over their head in their job.
Yeah. Maybe ever if daniel hackett is right now he is he's like if you do type like proficient in excel on your resume and then they're like day one okay we need you to make this spreadsheet for us and put in a few macros and you just like immediately go to google and start googling how to do excel no you walk out and you start just sweating yeah you walk out you're like i can't do this i lied on my resume this is what it feels like with him he lied on his resume he can't do this yeah and he should probably stop doing this and yeah you're right like he will probably come back on and i'd be like coach this is a funny thing i said about you i said you're the worst coach ever and he'd be like ah that's funny guys uh-huh and i'm like be like, that was fun.
Here's a rowback question. Are you the worst coach ever? There's a lot of stats that you could point to that would say yes.
Yes, yeah. I'm not saying it.
I'm saying that there's a plethora of – No, I am saying he's the worst coach ever. Okay, I'm going to clarify.
We'll do good cop, bad cop. I'll be good cop.
I'm not saying that about him. I haven't seen every coach ever coach.
But as the numbers go, the numbers make a compelling argument that he's the worst coach of all time, maybe in any sport. You're doing like the Carl Everett doesn't believe in dinosaurs.
I didn't see a lot of bad coaches, so they don't exist. No, but it's not me.
I'm saying the numbers are telling me. Yeah.
The numbers, certain statistics that you look at say that he's the worst coach of all time.

And maybe it's also across other sports.

Like, maybe even if you include basketball.

Yeah.

It's so, so bad that Sam Darnold looks like he's got a second shot.

Like, that's how bad it is.

They can't score.

They can't do anything.

Is that another field goal?

That was another field goal. That's three.
Incredible. 61 61 yard or 40 to 30 eagles with 216 left um they can't do anything they have their mike purcell their nose tackle screaming at russell wilson he's nathaniel hackett standing there not able to do anything brian burns was mocking russell wilson with his uh Did you see that? He's not unlimited either? It was great.
He did when Russell Wilson was standing at the 50-yard line before a game and pretending that God is literally touching him. He did that as a sack dance.
Russell Wilson has become such a joke. The audibles that he's calling that are from Seattle, he's getting mocked.
He's getting yelled at and nathaniel hackett's just got to sit there and be like this sucks yeah like i actually feel bad for the guy because russell wilson has not been i you could make the argument this might be one of the worst trades of all time with the way russell wilson's playing yeah he's definitely like i think in every statistical category he's in, he's either 20th or below of all the main ones.

It's crazy.

Okay, so I watched Russell Wilson play his entire career,

watched a lot of him last year.

He wasn't this bad last year.

No, he wasn't.

So it's a combination of altitude, Nathaniel Hackett,

not having Pete Carroll, reading too many of his press clippings,

the giant house that he bought with no bathrooms. yep that is a crazy house it is a wild bathroom yeah Russell Wilson by the way talking about how do you think he explained the situation with Mike Purcell after okay putting myself in Russell Wilson's shoes.
Were the first three words he said?

Everyone can guess.

Russell Wilson gets screamed at by his teammate on the sideline, goes viral.

That's my guy.

That's just football.

No, you guys are close, but not there.

Jake, you got anything?

We're sick of losing.

No, it's perfect, Russell Wilson, he said.

We'll get him next time.

No, I loved it. Okay.
All right. He said, I loved it.
That's just fire. Yeah.
He came off real pissed off, said, let's effing go. Me and him are on the same page.
Okay. I think they actually are on the same page.
I'll defend Russell Wilson. I think Russell Wilson fully understands that his teammates hate his guts, and his teammates do hate his guts.
Everyone's on the same page. Clap it up, guys.
Let's clap it up. Yeah.
Broncos country, let's ride. Run or pass.
Everybody, come on, sideline. Everybody scream.
Run or pass. Run or pass.
Everyone on that Broncos sideline needs to look themselves in the mirror for not being unlimited enough and not yelling run or pass loud enough on defense to support your team. Because maybe if the defense was a little bit better then you guys might win a couple oh wait the broncos defense is like the best in the nfl yeah although they did trade bradley chubb but they this is i i honestly think russell wilson needs to just sit out for the rest of the year i i was saying a hard reset it's the only way sanio hackett's gonna get fired like you get someone else i don't know it's just because you're stuck with him you can't do anything you can't trade him you know when you we talked the other week about which quarterbacks would be the worst to do drugs with and russell wilson is unanimous number one number one i i actually do think that russell wilson is the quarterback that needs to do drugs the most yeah you know i'm saying like he would suck to do drugs with, but there's no quarterback in the NFL that's more in need of, like, a nice piping hot glass of ayahuasca than Russell Wilson.
Yes, ego death. Just, like, yeah, just go off into the jungle for the next two months.
Leave Ciara behind. She'll be fine.
And, yeah, just stay in a shaman's tent. Yeah, eat some mushrooms and put on a blindfold.
Yeah. And let your senses take over.
I would like to do ecstasy with Sam Darnold. Would you? Yeah, it'd be fun, I think.
I think he's like a party guy like that. He was Sam Darnold.
Yeah, that wouldn't be bad, I don't think. I'd like...
Go to like an EDM concert? I'd like to slam some brewskis with Davis Mills. Yeah.
I bet you Davis Mills is sick at beer pong. Oh, yeah.

Big time.

He's got that neck.

Yeah.

Just leans it right over.

Coke with Jameis.

Oh, man.

I don't know.

He would have.

You would either create the greatest company of all time or you just walk away being like,

what was that guy talking about?

Yeah.

The next thing I know, I'm like, I'm applying for a permit for like a crawfish boil restaurant in Memphis in Memphis. And James is like, I know just the guy that can run it.
Crawfish gym. Yeah.
It's a cross. Yeah.
You boil it. Well, you drag giant sacks of crawfish over your shoulder across the restaurant, throw them in the pot.
Yeah. Man, but it would be a legendary hang.
My last thing about Sam Darnold, I think he deserves a little bit of credit.

Who knows where his career is going?

But Sam Darnold has gotten a win for these four coaches.

Todd Bowles, Adam Gase, Matt Rule, Steve Wilks.

That's impressive.

Let's go, yeah.

That's a fact that you could walk around and be like,

you see these guys?

He's playing NFL on expert mode. Steve Wilkes might be the best coach of them.
Matt Rule, Todd Bowles, Adam Gay, Steve Wilkes. No, I still think Todd Bowles over Steve Wilkes.
I don't know. Steve Wilkes got the boys playing frisky.
Steve Wilkes is a much better interim coach than any of those guys. But that in itself, the fact that Sam Darnall has gotten a quarterback win for those four head coaches deserves a tip of the cap.
Wow, dude. That's impressive.
That is pretty impressive. I just thought the name of Jameis Winston Gym would be CrossFit, but with a W.
I mean, I actually kind of want to start this gym now. Yes, I do too.
And you can just, like, maybe part of the is you like steal some crawfish and then you get chased. Yeah.
That would be great. That's the running portion.
This is almost like a horizontal monopoly that we have going right here. Yeah.
It's like farm to table, except it's like supermarket theft to stomach. It's perfect.
It's genius. No one steal it.
Okay, next up, Dolphins 30, Texans 15.

Jake, I almost like never would have forgiven the Dolphins for what they tried to do in this game by giving up the cover.

That was the easiest win ever that they then just were like,

second half, we don't even have to play.

They're on pace to win by like 50.

It was crazy. They came out there.
Actually, Brandon Cooks has a quote that was shocking. Like, I don't think I've ever seen this from an NFL player.
He was asked, when did the Texans know they were overmatched? He said, from the moment we came out. I'm talking from an offensive standpoint, the moment we stepped out on the field, that's the truth.
That's facts just straight up trying to get i don't he's trying to get at this point yeah but that's as blunt as it gets and it it's true they came out there and they were overmatched from the moment the game started yeah 10 points in the first quarter for the dolphins 20 in the second is 30 nothing at halftime they took two out which i don blame them. Well, it's because it was the big news out of this whole game was Teron Armstead, their left tackle got hurt and it might be bad.
And then Tua got sacked four times in nine plays. And they're like, well, this is probably a stupid thing.
And yeah, I don't blame them either. But they almost fucked everyone over.
Yeah, I mean, the Dolphins lost the second half 15 to nothing. This game is like the perfect example of the final score.
It's not to indicate how the game went. No, I mean, they could have scored as many points as they wanted in this game.
It was like a week two college football game where you have like Alabama playing McNeese State. Yeah, it was bad was it was bad it was ugly it was all the above congratulations jake uh you beat up on like you know a team that's not really an nfl team no they're borderline nfl yeah but to the dolphins credit like that's exactly what you wanted to see the offense look like yeah this was a preseason game for them um the dolphins though so, though.
So, the Dolphins. Hank, what are you rooting for here? Packers.
What do you have? Money line. They're down 10.
Yeah, I know. With a minute 22? If they don't convert this, then they have to kick a field goal here because they're down 10, which is what I really need.
That would be the fourth field goal. Oh, shit.
All right. No, no, no, no, no.
Drop it. All right wow jordan love he's ball terrible awareness he could have run for that he could have run for that that's a fact is it not waste time though he could have run for it they have three time three time outs he could have run for that look at how much space he had jordan love terrible field awareness uh that's i'm gonna mark that right there put that in my file.
He absolutely could have gotten to the sideline. There's a spy right there, Edwards.
He could have gotten to the sideline. I don't know about that.
I think that was – He's mobile. That was a pass interference.
Quarterback got there quick. Wait.
Oh, the meanest graphic of all time for the Dolphins Texans. I don't know if you guys saw it, but they did.
Nice. PFT, the field goal bet.
It hits every single time. It's crazy.
The three and a half field goals at night, it's got to be something like 75, 80%. It's always plus money this year.
They did an in the hunt for the AFC. It was every team except the Texans.
Oh, that is. Literally every team.
So they're mathematically eliminated. I think so, but it was just so funny to see in the hunt the most crowded graphic possible.
Every team except the Texans. Yeah, if you're...
In the hunt. So would you...
I feel bad for Lovey Smith a little bit that he has to keep going through the motions this season. Yeah.
But I think he likes coaching football, so it's... He likes being around the guys.
Yeah, it's like better... His wife's probably like, you know, it's good that he's got interest that he's still into these days.

If it were me, you'd probably have to pay me, I'd say, $50,000 to coach the Houston Texans for the rest of the year. Or is that too little? And by that, I mean, like, only on game day.
I'm not talking about like during the week. I'm saying if you wanted me to fly down to Houston, Texas,

every Sunday, spend my entire Sunday doing nothing but coaching the Houston Texans, I think my cost would be 50 grand for the rest of the year. 50 grand a week? No, just but I'm only working Sundays.
Oh. Yeah.
No, no, no, no. Because I have to stop watching football.
No, I would not do that. But you remember there's no state income tax.
Yeah, but no, not being able to watch all the games. If I could hold an iPad and watch the games while I coached, I'd do that.
You can listen to the broadcast, the Red Zone broadcast in your headphones. No, I wouldn't do it.
No, no. $50,000.
No. Watching football is priceless.
It's true. It's my favorite thing to do you're right 50 000 is actually like a it's a insultingly low amount of money to coach the houston texas right think about it right yeah no the texans are just that's a garbage garbage team they're barely a team like you said barely i just i i feel bad for lovey knowing that he's not going to be back and you know he's not done anything to make you want to keep him around i might keep him around like just put him back defensive coordinator no they might just keep him around i don't know i i feel like the texans have been dead set on hiring josh mccown for the last yeah that's true like four seasons circling that yeah um by the way for the dolphinsphins are 8-3.
Dolphins are first in the AFC East. Are the Dolphins? Yes, they would have – no, they would be the two seed right now.
The Chiefs are 9-2. The Dolphins, though, we get a little like, are they for real coming up? Because they've got to go at 49ers, at Chargers, at Bills, Packers, Patriots, Jets.
These next three, though, at 49ers, at Chargers, at Bills. Like, if they win two out of three, I don't think – why wouldn't we be saying Dolphins are a true bona fide Super Bowl contender? Why wouldn't we? I think we would be.
Yeah. I think they are right now.
I do too, but I'm saying that's the conversation. I don't think if you polled everyone, who's going to win the Super Bowl, the Dolphins are probably the fourth or fifth team that comes out of people's mouths.
I think if they win two out of these three, they become the second or third team that comes out of their mouth. Yeah, I'd say that's probably about right.
I think if they finish the season as the two seed,

then everybody's... If they win the AFC East.

Yeah, if they win the AFC East.

It's going to be really interesting

because between Buffalo and Miami,

coming down the stretch,

I think home field is super, super important

for those two teams,

maybe more than any other team in the AFC.

Because Kansas City still has the best home field advantage.

But Kansas City, low key, on offense,

they've been way better on the road than they have at home.

I think like 10 points better on offense, on the road.

So, yeah, Arrowhead is different in the playoffs.

It's super loud.

But I would say that it's more important to Miami and Buffalo

than it is to Kansas City.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay, before we get to the afternoon games,

PFC, you've got a couple. Actually, let's do Chiefs-Rams.
Let's do Chiefs-Rams, then we'll do a couple ads. And we'll also do Packers-Eagles because it's about to.
Is it over? It's over. So, Eagles 40, Packers 33.
That was a wild game. Aaron Rodgers, I feel like he's done for the season, right? Well, the thumb, the report that came out from Ian Rapoport before today started was basically saying, like, you jackasses have no idea how tough Aaron Rodgers is.
He's been playing through an injury that would have killed most other quarterbacks. His thumb has a weird type of avulsion fracture that doctors have never seen before.
Most people would have it amputated. Not Aaron Rodgers.
He's been playing, and he hasn't been complaining about it at all. Usually when that type of report comes out, it means that a quarterback is about to get shut down for an extended period of time.
Agreed. Yes.
And so, yeah, I think this is probably it for him. He's probably, like, this was a nice exit ramp for him.
They're 4-8. They're not going to the playoffs.
They're not eliminated, but they're not going to the playoffs. And now you basically can see what you got with Jordan Love, right? From what we saw from Jordan Love, you look pretty good tonight.
Nah. No feel to win.
I mean, some of his teammates have even said the last couple weeks, like, that's a starter. I'll tell you point blank, that's a starter.
That's a starter? That's what they said? Yep. So now Big Cat's caught between a rock and a hard place like should you root for jordan love to suck or should you root for jordan love to be so good that they move on from aaron rogers this offseason i want him because the way this season has gone no i want him to be you might want to start rooting for aaron rogers to be okay i want him to win games not next week against the pairs but win games but in that middle ground of like, eh.
This would actually be perfect.

Because that's... I want him to win games, not next week against the Bears, but win games, but in that middle ground of like, eh.
This would actually be perfect. Because then I want them to commit to him and then be like, oh, whoops.
This would be perfect, though, if Aaron Rodgers is out for maybe the rest of the season. Right now the Packers look like shit.
Justin Fields, what if he comes back next week? And Justin Fields could beat Aaron Rodgers and the Packers, but they're taking that away from you by benching him. That's fine.
I'd still be fine with just beating the Packers. Okay.
If Justin Fields could beat the Packers. But, yeah, I wasn't impressed by Jordan Love.
Christian Watson did everything for him. Okay.
Yeah. I wasn't.
Were you impressed, Hank? He didn't get the win? Yeah, he had some nice zip on the ball. He was in there earlier.
I think they won this game. Oh, really? He looked pretty good.
So they win that game with Jordan Love? I think so. Okay.
Max, how are you feeling about the Eagles' brand new all-black uniforms? The uniforms looked great. I mean, put the camera on yourself, Max.
Can you pass me another cough drop? I'm going to put it in my drink. Yeah.
We're doing lean in the studio. Uniforms teams looks bad defense looks bad special teams officially has me because worry max said that to me a few weeks ago he's like our special team's not very good he's like but we have good everything else i was like yeah but every team that has bad special teams they just they lose in a drastic way in the playoffs.
It's like the Packers last year. Remember the 49ers against the Giants in the game when when was a Kyle Williams fumbled like three times punts.
Yeah. Like special teams will always rear its ugly head.
Was that against the Giants or against the Saints? I want to say maybe it was. I don't know.
Huh. There's some crazy games against the Saints Saints too.
But yeah, I know what you're saying. In the playoffs, those things, they tend to matter.
It feels like special teams always, you can just say, yeah, it was against the Giants. You can say that special teams, oh, it's fine, and then there'll be a key moment in a playoff game and it will turn everything.
And you'll be like, well, that kind of sucks. We saw that coming.
Cody Par uh point to that you know like i knew all year that that was a big problem and it's like oh maybe we'll be fine no yeah i i don't understand we're the worst kick kickoff team in the league they get to the 40 three times three times a game they're off the kickoff and it makes such a difference and it's just frustrating to see but i don't is a win, I guess. Jalen Hurts looked great.
I would be worried about the defense. Worried about the defense.
What about Jordan Davis? Jordan Davis is out. No, he's coming back, though.
I know. I know he's coming back.
Gardner Johnson got hurt today. We had Blankenship out there.
I thought it was Rodrigo Blankenship. Quite shocking.
He didn't really play that much better than Rodrigo would have played. Not to make any racial statements here, but I did say, is that a white safety? When was the last time you saw that? No, it's shocking, yeah.
I mean, I guess Chris Conti for the Bears. That worked out well.
We've had some other white safeties recently, too. Oh, Harrison Spence.
Yeah, yeah. He's a great safety yeah um so you feel not so great a win's a win okay wins a win 10-1 that's 10-1 I won't I won't apologize for being 10-1 you realize though that every way that you respond to this means that you don't feel so good yeah it was a very lukewarm a win to win is not like an I feel great I mean we score 40 points J looked really good.
A.J. Brown has to stop fumbling the fucking football for no reason.
I don't understand why it keeps happening, but Jalen Hurts looked really good. 170 yards rushing or something.
You can just tell yourself you've got to be able to win these types of games. A shootout.
Yeah, and we did. So it's a good win wins a win wins a win okay um all right next up uh let's do rams chiefs rams the game that i've never watched a game where i was like we all know what the outcome is gonna be it's actually very similar to the saints broncos last year when they had to start, who was that guy? Ian Book? No, no, no, no.

When Saints-Broncos, when the Saints went to the Broncos, the Broncos had to start the guy who had never thrown a pass. Oh, they started the wide receiver.
Kendall Hinton? Yeah. Bryce Perkins is better than that, but there was no way Bryce Perkins was with this Rams team, with Cooper Cup out, Allen Robinson out, Matthew Stafford out, going to Arrowhead and winning that game.
Like the Chiefs, it felt like they were just playing with their food. They weren't like converting for touchdowns.
They kind of played not their best game, and it was never even close to a doubt. Yeah, I actually think that even if it wasn't Bryce Perkins playing this game, if it was Matt Stafford, I think that the Chiefs probably beat them a little bit more.
Yeah, probably. Because in this one, it's like very natural for a team to be like, oh Bryce Perkins playing this game if it was Matt Stafford I think that the Chiefs probably beat him a little bit more yeah probably because in this one it's like very natural for a team to be like oh Bryce Perkins is coming into town the Rams are so banged up okay yeah we're the Chiefs we like to fuck around anyways and so that that's when you get this game which was actually it was closer than it looked in the fourth quarter yeah like it wasn't it was completely out of reach but it wasn't if you know what i'm saying like the fact that it was this rams team playing made it completely out of reach but by the score it wasn't uh it wasn't like a blowout like you thought it would be and the chiefs right now they don't score at home as much they are however 26 and 0 in their last 26 games in november and december which that a pattern.
They just don't they just don't lose. Yeah.
Yeah. They just don't lose.
And the key highlight from this game was Sean McVay got jacked up. Yep.
That was pretty cool. Yeah.
He got shoulder to the jaw. And I, I, I did like have a moment where when I was taking notes before the show, I just started like giggling to myself how awesome like it wasn't awesome the jacked up exist but like for anyone out there who didn't get to watch jacked up it was awesome they just showed like people getting concussed every week and then tige and boom would just yell jacked up you just got jacked up and like it was even in the moment we're like whoa that's pretty fucked up but also when jacked up, you're like, that was awesome.
It got you jacked up when you were watching it. It was an ESPN highlight, Monday night highlight of every concussion.
It's crazy to say. What they would do, they would show actually the players getting hit and then not being able to get up off the ground and then getting up and stumbling and falling down on the way to the sideline, and they would just scream, Jacked up! And then everybody would laugh.
Would they do Tweety Birds? Did I make that up? I think they might have had some sound effects. Yeah, where it's like, ooh, he's dizzy.
Yeah, and everybody knew when they were doing it. This is kind of fucked up.
It's so fucking funny to think about. Yeah, it's changed a lot.
and then the concussion lawsuit came and the nfl was

like hey guys uh would you mind instead of saying jacked up can you just say like come on man come on man the same type of voice and so that's how that's the evolution of a monday night countdown segment yeah i mean it was just all yeah he was i watched it i was like jacked up that was fucking sick um hold on i want. Hold on.
I'm going to pull it up real quick. I just want to see.
Is Susie Colber. David Allen going to be catching the ball.
Ike Taylor going to be coming in. Right down the gun barrel.
David Allen looking down the gun barrel. You're going to get his view of things right there.
Oh

my. David Allen got

jacked up.

He's concussed.

He's 100%

concussed. He's just got jacked

up. Oh man.
Alright. So that

was pretty much the whole game.

That's all I had. Sean McVay

legitimately might have had a concussion.

I think so. I don't know if there's do they do tests on coaches for those types of situations? He didn't go into the tent.
It would have been nice. He might be in protocol.
Yeah. I mean, the way they were just running the ball for no yards over and over, he might have been concussed.
You got to have, where's your holdback coach on that one? Yeah. That's what you got to have, head on a swivel.
Have to have your head on a swivel. The Rams, by the way, are going for the worst win percentage of a Super Bowl champ.
Worst hangover of all time. So the Broncos, after John Elway retired, went 6-10.
And then the other one was the 49ers, after they won, I think, in 82. 83 was a strike year.
So that doesn't really count. So they are a really bad team.

It fell apart very quickly.

Aaron Donald's still good, though.

Yeah.

You've got some nice pieces on the team.

But I never blame a team that deals with a Super Bowl hangover

because winning the Super Bowl probably kicks ass.

So much.

And you probably just have a kick-ass summer,

and you do a lot of cool-ass shit,

and then you come back and you're like, oh, fuck, I don't want to to go back to work i just had a great summer because i'm a fucking super bowl champion i just partied my dick off and then you get back to work and you're like oh this sucks shit and then you have to go out on sundays and play contact football get hurt and stuff and you're like fuck that i'm a super bowl champion i don't have to deal with this yes i completely understand that mindset it also probably is like kind of nice to for them to be able to just say right now like hey let's let's book our travel for january yeah you know i mean they're like hey honey like we're we're good to go january 10th we're good to go yeah you you worked like time and a half last season you worked an extra month and a half almost it's good for you you to be able to take January off. Yeah, just like we're ready

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Okay, last three games. Niners saints zero i'm so sick of the fucking new orleans saints we say it every week but this is a game that the saints could have won if they started anyone besides any yeah it sucks it sucks that's just what they're gonna do and uh the 49ers defense they're they're awesome.
They're outstanding. They're first in points per game, yards per game, rush yards per game, yards per rush, first downs per game, and pass touchdowns per game, which that's a lot of things to be number one in.
And I'm sure that if Jameis had played, they probably would have done some fucked up stuff to Jameis Winston. It would have been hilarious, but it would have been a great game to watch.
Yeah. It is disgusting.
I don't know what Jameis has done to Dennis Allen's family, why he hates him so much. Get Andy out of here.
But it's painful to watch the Saints right now. And this is the first time that they've been shut out since 2001.
Against the 49ers in Week 17. Yeah.
Actually, all three of their last three shutouts were against the 49ers. Yeah, I looked it up.
That game was Jeff Garcia, Aaron Brooks. Aaron Brooks was 21 for 33, 119 yards, zero touchdowns, four interceptions.
Yikes. The Niners defense is electric.
They've given up zero points in the second half of the last four games. That's hard's hard to do their offense looks sluggish today that was like the part where the saints defense actually played well so you have to be if you're on the saints events like dude just let's do something else yeah you know what though i saw i saw jimmy g took a few shots today and bounced back from him he didn't look great all the time um he He had 222 yards.
His numbers are good, though, too. Yeah, 222 yards, one touchdown, and he only took one official sack.
But he got knocked around a little bit. And so you remember how Billy was talking about Zach Wilson being too good-looking to not be tough? I think Jimmy Garoppolo is tough enough to be that good-looking.
Yeah. I think that's why his teammates like him.
Yeah. He's pretty tough.
He's literally pretty tough. He is pretty tough.
Yeah. Yeah.
But yeah, this game, it was a boring game in the fact that the Niners defense just suffocated them and the Saints, we get to watch the Saints have Monday Night Football. And that one's not going to be flexed.
Jake? Monday Night Football, untouchable. Untouchables.
Can we make an exception? I wish. If it's Jameis, that would be amazing.
We should start a change.org petition. Start Jameis on Monday Night Football.
I'm so excited. Do it for America.
Yeah. 49ers Dolphins next week is going to rule.
Whose line is it anyway? Where's it at? It's in San Francisco. I'm going to say, oh, this is going to be tough.
I think it's going to be a pick-em. I was going to say Niners minus two and a half.
I was going to say Dolphins minus two. What's in San Francisco? Our power ratings do not line up, guys.
Niners minus three and a half. Oh, wow.
I was going to go three, but I was like, I feel like they would have gobbled that up. Yeah, that does, Hank.
You're on the wrong side of the zero. So with the Niners, their record hasn't looked good recently.
Right, but they're incredible. They have all the talent in the world.
I know, the numbers have looked bad, but they've also unmistakably been trending upwards. And they now are in first in the NFC West, which we all kind of figured they were going to be the team that wins the NFC West.
We'll talk about the Seahawks in a couple games, but this is where the Niners, if they are what we think they are, which we do think they are. I think that they are who we thought that they were.
If they are what we think they are, and we do think that they are that. Well, because we, so flash backwards, like three weeks, I was saying to myself in a few weeks, they will be where I thought that they would be.
Right right and now they are where we thought that they would be they will win the nfc west they'll have a home playoff game and they will be the team and i'm speaking for max here he can he can speak up i think they will be the team that all cowboys eagles vikings fans will say no no thank play that team. Don't want to play that team.
Was that fair to say, Max? Yeah, 100%. I think they're by far the scariest team.
They are the team that everyone's going to be like, we don't want to do that. Now, you can sell yourself on like, well, maybe you can get to Jimmy G.
But, yeah, they have so much talent. So much fucking talent.

And, yeah, that Dolphins-Niners game.

I'm jacked up for that.

That's going to be a good one.

They should have flexed it.

And it's in the late slate with Chiefs Bengals.

Whoa.

That's so much revenge going on.

We've got to bring our hard hats on Sunday, boys.

That's a lot of good late football.

We haven't had a late slate in a long time. We've had to focus.

Everything is going to be great about that.

And the night with Colts Cowboys. Boo.
Boo. Should have been flexed.
Should have been flexed. You should have listened to Jake.
Should have been flexed. Okay.
Yeah. Saints, I don't just...
Fuck off. Fuck off.
Honestly. Respectfully fuck off.
Kindly fuck off. Saints.
If they had won this game, and it was a tall task to win this game game. But the Saints are it's got to be maddening to be a Saints fan this year because they have these games where their defense plays well and they can't put together an entire team, you know, game and then everyone else in their division loses.
Yeah. And it's just like you could have won this game and you would have been tied for first place.
Also, Saints, you have Taysom Hill. You have Alvin Kamara.
You've got Chris Olave, who's awesome. You've got, oh, yeah, you remember Jarvis Landry? Kevin White.
You remember him? Kevin White. You got him.
You have Kevin White. I don't think he was active today.
That's okay. It's actually really fucked up.
When he gets catches, ESPN doesn't even put it up. They don't have his picture.
Okay, that's what it is on here. Yeah, it's really fucked up.
That's messed up. You've got great talent.
You've got fun guys to watch. Yeah.
All it takes. Be fun.
All it takes is the simplest change of all time. We need the- Those obvious changes of all time.
Dennis Allen, we need to go down to New Orleans and do the Gordon Bombay and just put out a beach ball. Look how fun this is, guys.
I think we've been too nice to Dennis Allen. Yeah we need to start like physically threatening him your name's dennis i'm not saying that i'm gonna beat the shit out of dennis allen but if i have to watch andy dalton for the rest of the season i'm gonna i'm gonna punch him yeah i'm gonna punch i'm gonna i'm gonna find dennis allen i'm gonna punch him yeah not his face i'm gonna give him like a charlie horse Charlie horse.
I'm going to physically assault Dennis Allen. Never trust a man with two first names? Yeah.
Dennis and Allen are pervert names. Dennis and Allen, yeah, it's either that or shitty lawyer names.
Yeah. Don't.
No. Dennis Allen, we don't like you.
Those are uncles. Yeah.
Two uncles. You're worse than Nathaniel Hackett, and that's the meanest thing I can say about anyone.
I'm going to fucking punch you. All right, Chargers, Cardinals.
Chargers, 25, Cardinals, 24. This was actually similar to the Browns-Bucks game.
The Cardinals are up 24-17, and there was 10 minutes left in the fourth quarter. They go three and out, they punt.
Chargers can't do anything. They go three and out, they punt.
Chargers can't do anything. They go three and out, they punt, Chargers score a touchdown.
It was basically just building up to, like, eventually Justin Herbert will score a touchdown. And then Brandon Staley goes for two to win the game in regulation, which I, like, that had nothing to do with analytics.
That was like, we, they keep punting to us and we can't score. We got just end it right now yeah so i yeah i mean the the chargers like that was a game the chargers usually lose but the cardinals are worse than the chargers yeah and and and like shoot themselves in the foot more than the chargers it was very confusing looking up at the television when this game was being played at the same time as as the chiefs uh were against the Rams because from a color perspective it was all blue and red all across my television yeah and so I kept mistaking this is what like the score of this game which ended up being what 25-24 that felt like what I would expect out of a Rams Chiefs game yes just from a points perspective uh it was it was I think exactly what i thought would happen to these cardinals and that they they always find new and innovative ways to lose um they're now 12 27 and one at home since 2018 that's crazy which is that's nuts like they i'll say it again 12 27 and one at home since 2018 they have they have no home field advantage to speak of.
I think they're trying to, like, open and close the window to the stadium. Like, you're not Jim Irsay.
Cortez was there. Cortez was there.
If you're a Cardinals fan, you've got to be so upset just knowing that Kyler Murray, and to his credit, Kyler didn't play poorly all day today. No, he didn't.
He did have that one bad interception on fourth and one, and everybody was like why don't you hand the ball james connor throws interception and they asked him about after the game kyler murray to his credit he said schematically we were kind of on that play so yeah so schematic from a scheme point of view well i you you shouldn't have thrown that interception i feel like cliff kingsbury leads the league in third and ones, fourth and ones, throw it deep. Like he just doesn't want to run the ball.
Yeah, and it turns out a steroid boy, DeAndre Hopkins, is not taking good enough steroids. He didn't look that great today.
Needs more. Better steroids.
Cliff Kingsbury also was asked after if he's worried about his job because the Cardinals are in a bye week, and he just replied, I'm not. Okay.
So he should be. Yeah.
But maybe he's not in the fact you're if you're cliff kingsbury why would you ever have to be worried about a job well he's also probably like i'm not worried because if they fire me i don't care yeah still cliff kingsbury i'm gonna someone's gonna hire me yeah next week yeah i'll probably get the colorado job or a supreme court justice yeah right like i made a lot of money and i'm cliff kingsbury yeah he'll be okay yeah um

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He was insane.

229 yards running, two touchdowns, six catches for 74 yards. The Raiders now have won back-to-back walk-off overtime games.
It's the only way they can win games. Fun stat about Derek Carr, he's 9-1 in overtime.
Yeah, he's Mr. Overtime.
So it was a great handoff that he gave to Josh Jacobs who then ran what 82 yards yeah it was perfectly executed and the Seahawks it feels like the Seahawks and the Giants those are the two teams you'd circle and be like they might run out of gas yeah I mean I it's fun the whole Geno Smith has been it's been incredible it's been amazing to watch nobody saw this Geno Smith this year, but I think everyone's been waiting for Geno Smith to write back. He's starting.
He's starting to write back slowly. They do have – I looked at their schedule because I was like, I kind of want the Seahawks to make the playoffs.
They play the Rams twice, so that's good. And they also play the Panthers and the Jets at home.
I don't know if they split that and they beat the Rams twice. They're a 10-win team, maybe.
I would like them to make the playoffs. It could happen.
I would like them to make the playoffs just because of the Russell Wilson story. Now, I'm rooting against them just because they seem like the biggest competition to all four NFC East teams getting in.
That's true. But, yes, it would be very fun for Russell Wilson purposes to see them make the playoffs.
Yes. And just, like, out, you know, the best revenge is living well.
This would be incredible revenge. It would be the best revenge.
And the Raiders are just, I'll say this. If the Raiders are going to just play fun games, I'm cool with that.
Yeah, they've been depressing before this. Now, what was it about the Raiders' decision-making that they've gotten rid of all their first-round picks, right, from the last six years? Yeah.
No longer with the team? The one good guy that you've drafted, you don't give the fifth year to. And Josh Jacobs, he's an awesome running back.
He's always been good. He's been a little bit banged up in the past, but when he's been healthy, he's been an elite running back.
And they're not not giving him the fifth year and it feels like this whole season has been like a josh jacobs giant middle finger fuck you to the raiders for not paying him yes like did mike mayock run out of coupons why like why did they not elect to give this guy the fifth year last year it makes no sense he had a slow start to the season and then since then he's just been like ripping off 100 yard games he had a couple couple uh under 100 yard games but it's basically as josh jacob goes the raiders go and when he's awesome they win games and yeah i don't understand it either why why wouldn't you the only thing i can think of is because they're broke. It's also like.
That's a lot of money.

Isn't the running back the one guy, like the one position you want to give the fifth year to

and then not have to give him a huge contract?

A huge contract.

Right.

So I don't understand it.

It's like me, verbal me.

Me in college, Handshake, Raiders, and Josh Jacob regret not taking that fifth year.

Because this is a no-brainer to end all no-brainers.

He's awesome.

He's awesome.

And yeah, it's like a franchise tag.

It's like a mini franchise tag that you could give him.

Yeah, yeah.

It makes no sense.

All right, so let's do a little Thanksgiving Day.

We're running.

My voice is running out.

I feel like shit.

But Thanksgiving, bills, I don't know. I mean, here's one thing I'll throw out there.
I don't know why it's become – maybe it's because we're biased and we're very open with our bias that we love Josh Allen. He's our best friend.
We love him. But I had a lot of people tweeting me being like, you guys overrate this guy.
He's not that good. It's like if Josh allen's not that good then no one is good well i literally no quarterback is good for the most part i've narrowed it down if you are still a josh allen hater you're either a chief fan and you're you're pissed off because we i i love josh allen patrick homes is better than josh they're both great there you go they're both great and i'm fine with saying that i don't think josh allen would be upset Patrick Mahomes is on than Josh Allen.
They're both great. There you go.
They're both great. I'm fine with saying that.
I don't think Josh Allen would be upset. Patrick Mahomes is on another planet.
So you're either a Chiefs fan. I've noticed some Bengals fans are also doing that because they're like, I'd rather have our guy, Joe, than your guy, Josh.
Yeah, okay. And so I understand where that's coming from a little bit.
But I don't think that any, besides fans of those two teams, I don't really. Patriots fans? Patriots fans, I think they respect the hell out of Josh Allen.
I don't think so. Okay, alright.
Yeah, I was throwing that out there. You, okay.
Jets fans, maybe? No, I beat them? Well, no, because then you just, you wish that you had your own Josh Allen for the Jets. We beat Josh when, you know, the Patriots were the better team, and then now, it's kind of his, it's his division.
Right, but I just, I was very confused very confused why people were saying this. And then he made that laser throw to win the game, and it was like.
That was the nastiest throw. That's Josh Allen.
Oh, it's also Vikings fans that get pissed off that we don't give Kirk enough. Oh, yeah.
Because they think that our praise is finite, and every time we praise Josh Allen, like every sentence we say, that's praise that could be better spent adding to Kirk Cousins. And Vikings fans do get upset.
Like when the Bills won that game, I was like, that was a tough. Like the Lions are scrappy.
The Bills just won two games in four days when they basically didn't have a home. Credit to them.
That's hard to do. And they're like, oh, and the Vikings do it.
You don't give them credit. And it's like, listen, the Vikings are a good team Josh Allen's stealing Kirk Cousins stealing there's a big difference that's how I view the teams Josh Allen can win you a Super Bowl Kirk Cousins cannot that throw that Josh Allen made was just he's the only quarterback I think that can make that I don't think Patrick Mahomes can make that throw it's not a take away from Patrick Mahomes he does other things that Josh Allen doesn't do that's super impressive on its own.
No, Josh Allen's like pure arm strength. Josh is the only guy that I could see making that throw.
And to be honest with you, that's one of the throws that a couple weeks ago when his elbow was 100%, he wouldn't make that. It would get intercepted.
It would be a be a disastrous throw. Yeah.
So that was my big takeaway from that game.

The Cowboys, shout out the Giants, all time, all time, backdoor cover.

Like, they just never gave up.

Yeah.

I love that from them.

Dable freaking out.

It was also the over.

It was the over.

The over, yeah.

And the over.

The overs club, which we hit easily.

That probably had – I mean, I know it happened in my family.

It was right at that time, too, where, like, the families are all still together,

and there's definitely a lot of people, like, AWLs, that were rooting for the Giants to cover the spread or the over, where aunts and uncles are probably like, what, this game's over. Why are you celebrating like this? Thankfully, I've gotten to a point in life where I can just say out loud, like I just told everyone out loud.
I was like, hey, we're trying to score 145 points today that's number one and then i was like and i have the giants so this is important and everyone's like okay cool like they they know like yeah i'm gambling today we are my holiday we tried to get this uh we tried to get the the bills uh lions game turned on on one of the tvs in qatar where they were showing broadcasting all the World Cup games.

They didn't understand why American football was so important on Thanksgiving.

Yeah, it was it was difficult trying to track down a pirated stream that worked over there.

Yeah, because Qatar is not they're not huge NFL fans yet.

Yet we're converting them, but it's going to take a while. And then your game, Hank Patriots Vikings Vikings deserve credit.
That was a good win for them. Kirk Cousins.
That was probably Kirk Cousins' best game of the season. He was pretty much lights out the entire game.
I think he might have had one pick, but he was very, very good the entire game. Mac Jones looked okay.
He actually looked better than okay. He looked good.
He was throwing bombs. It was more the Patriots just did the things that you never expect

out of a Belichick team, special teams, and dumb penalties.

I mean, it was special teams.

It was the kickoff return touchdown,

which there was probably a holding penalty that they didn't call.

I'm not going to blame the refs.

But then the game really ended when they got the running into the kicker,

third and five.

Vikings got the ball back, scored.

Game was pretty much over.

What about the Hunter Henry catch? that was a total like live and die that was a touchdown that was the jesse james sketch and there but everyone was putting up the the kelsey clip from earlier in the year where it was like the same thing and his was i the i think the guy the the nbc whoever the ref correspondent for that day was i wasn't't really familiar with him. Ty McAuliffe? He's on the list.
Oh. He was adamant.
He was watching the film where you don't even see it hit the ground. He's like, nope, hits the ground.
Clearly not a touchdown. But the video that they were showing just completely disregarded it.
It was a touchdown. It was a touchdown.
It absolutely was a touchdown. I thought Jesse James was a touchdown, too.
You got the benefit off that one, the Steelers-Patriots game. But, yeah, that was one of those ones.
It was actually kind of like the DK Metcalf one. It's like, okay, yeah, if we slow it down to the nth degree, yeah, I guess it's not, but it's a touchdown.
Also, the CeeDee Lamb one from earlier in the Cowboys game, that made even less sense. Yeah, it was a touchdown.
It should have been a touchdown. I agree.
I completely agree. I just woke up the next day because that game started at about 5 a.m.
I tried to stay up to watch it, and I woke up, and the first thing that I saw was Patriots fans highlighting the rulebook and showing why that should have been a catch. And to their credit, the NFL's explanation of it was he didn't survive the ground.
Surviving the ground been in the rule book for like the ball didn't hit four years yeah it's i mean i'm saying i'm talking about surviving the ground like getting up from the ground all that stuff that didn't make no sense that was a touch and the guy was adamantly that terry's on terry's on my list who else is on the list it's a lot yeah Walk me through just the starting list. I mean, Florio's probably at the top.

Uh-huh.

Terry.

Dungy.

Tony.

Who's Tony?

Tony Romo.

Oh, okay.

This PFT.

Both father and son.

I'm not on the list.

I'm a Patriots.

Remember, I started the Do Your Pod.

From the fan fiction?

Yeah.

Reggie Miller.

Reggie Miller. I just can't stand him.
Oh, okay. I like that.
Just throw that in there. The city of Philadelphia.
It was a good day of Thanksgiving football, though. A lot of points.
It was an exciting game. I mean, going from that Jets game and being like, this is going to be another stinker probably.
Kirk Cousins' prime time. Last week, it was the ugliest game of all time.
We couldn't even score a touchdown until the last minute. It was a very enjoyable Thanksgiving evening up until the fact that we lost.
And I was tracking the Overs Club all day, and I was like, we're just going to need a Mac Jones versus Kirk Cousins shootout. And then it happened.
I was like, this fucking rules. The other takeaway is that I think Micah Parsons, when he's activated, is like the best defensive player in the NFL.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. When they turn him loose.
It's his league. And they just say, okay, Micah, your assignment is to just go out there and fuck everything up.
He might be the best football player. He's incredible.
And no, I mean, Jared fights harder than anyone. He's in the same game every week.
Well, he did what he had to do. And I think that every single week for the last two years.
Yeah. What Dan Campbell the end of the game, people were crushing him for it for not using his timeouts.
But his logic was kind of sound, which was I don't want to give Josh Allen any time to win this game. Yeah.
He just, who could have imagined that Josh Allen could have done what he did in that. Was it like 13 seconds, 12 seconds? It didn't make any sense.
Don't say 13, 12 seconds. It was like, it was like, it was like Yeah, it was like 30.
Was it? Yeah. It was that many? Yeah.
Maybe it was different than the Qatari. It was.
The conversion. The conversion rate.
It was actually 300 years ago in Qatar based on some of the laws that they have. All right.
Let's do. Do you have football guys? I have Billy's football guys.
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So that is what Football Guys brought to you by. Jake.
Yes, this is sent in from Billy. Hope you get well soon, Billy.
Number one, Thaddeus Longmore. He's a middle schooler born without arms and plays tackle football.
Okay.

Oh, wow.

That's impressive.

Yeah.

That's a big tough to beat.

What was...

I got to piss.

Probably, I'm guessing not quarterback.

Or rod receiver.

I think he plays defense.

Yeah, play defense.

I think he blocks.

Does he?

Well, it's about your feet.

Can you see my dick if I pee right now? Football is very fun being a tight end blocking and feeling like a part of the team. Okay.
This is unprecedented. He's a blocker.
No, me and Big Cat both peed during the Dungeons & Dragons episode. Yeah, that's true.
Yeah. Number two, Devin Danielson, defensive lineman from Pittsburgh.
He banged his head against his helmet. I saw that.
That was awesome. And all his reaction was incredible.
Billy's comments, self-explanatory. Okay.
Number three, Nick Saban. In his post-game press conference, he got hit in the middle of the game, I believe.
He had a little stuff on his cheek. He said, I took one of the hardest hits in the whole game, and unlike some of our players, I didn't have to go to the medical tent.
They don't make them like they used to. Yeah.
Anytime somebody that old starts to bleed, though, I just think that this guy could possibly die. Agreed.
And lastly, we have the Montana mascot. Ran into goalposts.
Okay. That Montana game, I was driving home.
I got back late, and I just turned it on. The Montana crowd is one of the most electric crowds I've ever seen.
Montana's a good football state. They were down like 24 points.
I think I turned it on. It was right in the middle of the comeback.
They were going. It was 1230.
I turned it on because I was just trying to watch Sports sports center and see the highlights from the day that's two i was on the only bottle and half i feel like jake could see my dick by the way through his periphery yeah no i i can tell jake could totally see my dick you like what you saw no i didn't see it shout out to just shout out to the montana fans i turned the game on trying to watch highlights and it was like one of the most raucous atmospheres i've ever seen yeah it's a it a great football state. And I think they've got one of those stadiums that just has mountains in the background.
And anytime there's mountains behind anything, I will watch it. I will love it.
Yeah. It's kind of like Bill's Mafia, too.
They're all bundled up, but just going fucking ape shit. Yeah.
Nuts. Yeah.
They are. Yeah.
They're the Western equivalent of Buffalo for sure. I just got really scared because I was like, oh, no, I'm pissing blood.
But I forgot that we put. We put lean in there.
Yeah, we put our cough drops in the bottom of our bottles. All right.
I'm all good. Thank you, Jake and Billy.
Football guy of the week. Who are you voting for, Jake? It's got to be Thaddeus Longmore.
Oh, the guy with no arms? Yeah. Yep.
I need to see some stats. Yeah.
Stats? You want to see stats? I'll show you. How many pancakes? You're showing video? All right, I'll do this.
What if he's a kicker? Oh, yeah. He could be an incredible kicker.
No, he blocks. Oh.
I'll show you guys. What if Billy just got duped? What if Billy made this up? Well, we'll see.
I mean, good for him. That's a fucking incredible story.
Great name. Yeah.
Great name for a dupe. That is Longmore.
That's a great name. A strong name.
I'm Googling him. I hope he wins.
Oh, okay. Here we go.
No arms, no problem. Northwest Junior High's Thaddeus Longmore loves playing football.
Also, I think someone DM Billy this this week because it's from October 10th. Yeah.
Ah, okay. That makes sense.
But shout out to him. He deserves to be on Football Guy of the Week.
I hope he wins because that's a fucking awesome story. He wears a t-shirt with a hashtag.
Oh, it's Thaddeus Longmire. Yeah.
The hashtag on his shirt is hashtag don't need to. Fuck yes.
I like this kid. All right, this guy's a winner.
This guy's our guy. Football Guy of the Week.
Absolute stud. He has to win.
He has to win. All right, let's wrap it up with who's back in the week.
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This offer ends $11.29. Hank.
Jake, what are you laughing at, Jake? What are you laughing at, Hank? Is it the fact I peed? Yeah. Yeah, that's what it is.
That's what it is. Mine is back of the week.
I got a couple stars in the spotlight for different reasons.

Okay.

First one's OBJ.

Yeah.

Everyone's talking about where he's going to end up,

and then the report came out Sunday morning that he got kicked off of a flight,

a commercial flight in Miami because he was, like, passing out

and then caused a scene when they asked him to wake up or stop moving around.

They asked him to put his seatbelt on, allegedly. Now, I think I'm Team Odell on this.
I might be Free Odell. Anyone that causes a scene on a plane and causes everyone to get off, it's hard for me to be on your team.
That part sucks. However, according to Odell's lawyer, and this is like when your lawyer is typing out notes app statements, you know, things are going swimmingly.
And he said that Odell, as he does before flights, covered his head in a blanket to just relax on an airplane. And yeah, he may have been falling asleep.
The flight attendants came over, asked him to buckle up if he could. He didn't hear them asking because he had his blanket over his head, which is what Odell does every time he flies on an airplane.
And so then the next thing Odell knew, the flight attendants and the police were over surrounding him like a common criminal. They took his blanket off and they said, Odell, you need to get off this flight.
Spot the crime. Can't find one.
People were mad, though. Yeah, just a weird, weird twist to the story of the Odell Beckham sweepstakes.

And then my other who's back is our friend, Patty the Batty.

Yes.

All-time funny video came out online.

Someone put it out there.

It's a ring video, black and white, and it's just Patty the Batty walking up to the door

and basically ringing the doorbell to tell the woman that his dog took a massive shit right outside his house. Took a sloppy shit right outside his house.
He's a gentleman. Just hilarious.
Just the accent, the view, the fact that it's Patty. Just very, very funny video.
Yes. Six and a half million views in a couple days.
Incredible. Love it.
He's fighting in two weeks. Love it.
PFT, your who's back? My who's back of the week is the James Madison University Dukes.

What about you?

Oh, yeah, I came back.

Yeah.

Well, listen, Big Ken.

Did you even go?

Selfless guy.

Come on.

Yeah, no, I'm back.

This is really me.

Give us a little taste.

This isn't the replacement PFC.

I'm so happy you're back.

Thanks, Jake.

Wow.

When you tweeted back in the United States, I'm like.

I was never worried.

I think I said, I was asked, and I said it was a 1.5. Well, I did...
There are some things that you'll see that will come out whenever the video does come out, because we've got a lot of footage we're editing together right now. Went over there, spent time in Qatar with Donnie Does, the Wanton Don, Michelangelo, the producer, the Amir.
You may have heard of him. He's the fucking Amir.
Everybody knows him. And there may have been some activities that we participated in that are traditionally not legal in Qatar.
Got it. That might carry certain punishments.
You guys fucked each other? We kissed. Donnie and I made out.
No, no, we didn't. But there's...
All I'm going to say, because Donnie is still overseas in Qatar.

Okay.

We actually...

This has all been a bit.

We didn't break the law at all.

But make sure to watch the video when it comes out to see what it is that we did do.

The Amir was a gracious host.

We ended up...

So we talked a lot about the Amir, tweeted a lot about the Amir, and we ended up eating

Thanksgiving dinner in the Amir's suite.

Not with him. What is an Amir? Is it a guyir is it a guy is it a person is it a title it's it's it's uh it's all the above and and so much more uh the Amir is gracious he's a wonderful person he's a scholar Amir no so Amir that would be weird so there are different emirates over in the Middle East emirates are names of kingdoms that they have that are governed by a religious slash political leader, you could say.

But they're not elected. They're chosen by God.
They're chosen by God because they're better than everybody else. That's badass.
And so it is pretty cool. So the emir owns everything over there.
And basically he's such a fucking baller that he decided that the best way to make his dad proud of him was to just spend $220 billion and get the World Cup brought to his small country. I bet his dad is proud.
His dad's very proud of him. How'd you get invited to the suite? It's a long story.
Like a friend of a friend of a friend ran into the guy that does the Everest equivalent over there. No way.
He was there. So we partied with him the first night and then he was like, I've got tickets.
Uh,

yeah. Ran into the guy that does the Everest equivalent over there.
No way. He was there.
So we partied with him the first night. And then he was like, I've got tickets to the Amir suite.
And so then we went to the game, went through like 20 levels of security, like people stopping you every five feet and being like, who are you here with? Let me see your credentials. Then we end up in the suite for the Switzerland Cameroon game.
And that that was fun there was not alcohol served because it was the mere suite and we didn't want to disrespect his uh his wishes so uh we had a great time while we were there we traveled all around there's gonna be so many videos that are gonna come out it's gonna be it's gonna be uh interesting but i can't say what it is we did that uh could Donnie in hot water. Yeah, until Donnie gets back.

Until Donnie is home safe.

But it was great.

We went.

I spent the entire week that I was there telling every single British person

that I saw.

You were there for two days.

Yeah, well, two and a half days.

Yeah, entire week.

Every single person that I saw, I told them,

we're going to tie the shit out of you.

It's going to be a fucking tie.

I told everybody.

I was like, the Brits, you can say what you want about your team. You think you're hot shit because you beat Iran.
We're going to tie you. You've never been tied harder than we're about to tie you on Friday.
They all said I was full of shit that I didn't know footy. Who's laughing now? Yeah.
America. It was the best, the greatest tie of all time.
The tie I heard around the world. We were calling it the miracle on grass.
And it was incredible incredible can't wait for you guys to see the video was there a small part of you that was the tie was great it was perfect time but you traveled all that way and didn't get to see a goal i traveled halfway around the world cameroon i would try to have scored in that switzerland did hell yeah nice i traveled halfway around the world with a singular mission to bring home a fucking tie to the United States. We did.
And that's what I did. We tied.
A goal would have been nice. Goal would have been nice.
But it was still tied. As I was watching the game, I was like, this would kind of suck if there was no goals.
Yeah. So the thing about Qatar is every second there feels like you're scoring 1,000 goals because of what a great country it is and how great of a job that the Emir has done.
It's not that hot. It was like 80 degrees while we were there.
88? The thing I heard about, I learned about Qatari people, most Qatari people don't work ever because if you are from Qatar, you're just rich. Your job is just to be rich.
This sounds like a country for you. And you just spend money on flexes.
You get really into falconry. You buy boats.
Cars. You go on luxurious vacations.
You drive cars very fast around European cities and don't get arrested. This is the type of thing that you do if you're involved in the Qatari government.
The people that work over there, they're all the workers that come from other countries to do all the actual jobs. Got it.
The most, the most employment that you have, if you're like a Qatari person is you tell people like, where's my money at the end of this month? Love how come there wasn't enough money this month compared to last money. And that's kind of what you do as your job.
That's pretty cool. What was it like being in a full stadium of people, especially soccer fans, but they couldn't drink and weren't drunk before going in or could you pregame uh there were places that we could drink legally and otherwise not open till 6 p.m or something no no there's other places that that you could drink you know from like 8 a.m until whenever um it was not just in stadiums but in general it was unusual being in large groups of people who were all totally sober.

Yeah.

Because that usually never happens in real life.

Usually, if you can see like 200 people around you, 50% of them are drunk.

Right.

That's kind of the math that I usually do.

There was no like, the ratio was all off.

That's another thing.

Oh, a bunch of dudes.

It was all dudes because like, what girls are going to make a girls trip to Qatar for the World Cup? That's not really a thing that had your hair out right yeah what's up you can't even let your hair out literally I know you can you can it's a it's a more progressive place than maybe you might think it's not like people are wearing burkas all the time some of the employees some of the people that work there if you are Muslim the rules are stricter on you if you're a Muslim than they are if you're a foreigner who's not a Muslim. So they kind of like and there was a big like understanding.
It felt like the entire time that be cool that let's not have an international incident. So we're not going to arrest people for every small little thing that's going on.
But at the same time, if you saw people that were getting like a little out of line, there would people that went up to them and like had had words and they're like hey why don't you start respecting the emir a little bit more damn um so it was it was pretty cool uh it was unusual return trip i i would like to go back there in like two years grit week to see what the hell the country is like at that point because this this is no joke. In the last 12 years, they spent $220 billion building the city.
So everything that you see there is brand new. From the second you walk in, the airport, the airport is like the most luxurious place that you've ever been.
It's got a spa. It's got steam rooms.
It's got cars in the duty-free shop. You can buy a McLaren for a million dollars but not pay the duty taxes on it.

That's awesome.

I should have done that.

Yeah.

I forgot my checkbook at home.

I would have matched.

But it was a really interesting place, and nothing that they built is going to be usable

in like five weeks.

Damn.

So basically, it was $220 billion.

To throw a sick party.

To throw a sick party.

With no booze. To, one, impress your dad.
Yeah. Yeah.
No booze, no chicks. That's kind of a sick party.
It's like a 12-year-old's party. It was like impress your dad and then also make MBS jealous in Saudi Arabia and make him try to spend a bunch of money to get the next World Cup, which could happen.
That could happen. But it's, yeah, it was an interesting trip.
Video is going to be excellent. excellent i'm happy you're back i'm happy that i came back too but i was all donnie and i we know when to push when to pull i think and when we pushed this time i think it was it was strategically smart so uh i never felt like i was in danger good good yeah and it was a great tie it was a wonderful time tie.
And one of the stadiums looks like a vagina. It does.
That's a fact. That's a fact.
Yeah, yeah, it does. It does.
In fact, it was designed to look like a vagina. In fact, for as much as they don't deal with, they don't like sex stuff in Qatar, everything over there resembles some sort of sexual.
I would imagine there's a lot of tension. Yes, there's a ton of tension.
Yeah. All right.
My who's back is the Badgers, Wisconsin Badgers, Luke Fickle. Out of nowhere, they hired Luke Fickle.
It's all coaches carousel. Matt ruled in Nebraska.
We don't know what's going on with Auburn still. But not Lane Kiffin.
Not Lane Kiffin. It's Hugh Freeze, right? But he hasn't signed yet.
Yeah. And also there's a report.
Hold on, I'm going to find it. Cadillac Williams announced that 12 players on the team have given their life to Christ this year.
So I feel like he's making a good push for this. Does that improve their rankings for the college football playoff? I don't know.
But yeah, college football, we'll talk about it all on Wednesday. Luke Fickle completely out of left field, never even thought he was available, love the hire, excited because Wisconsin could not have been more like bottomed out this year.
But yeah, we'll get into the whole college football playoffs because it's maybe the least exciting championship Saturday we've had in a long time. It feels like everything's pretty much set except maybe the Pac-12 championship.
Or like, yeah, if TCU loses in the Big 12 championship, what does that affect? I think they're still in. I think that there's a lot of voters out there that are chomping at the bit.
The way Ohio State lost changes a lot of how everyone viewed it. If Ohio State lost close, it would have been different.
The fact they got absolutely smushed by Jim Harbaugh yet again, that was awesome. That was awesome.
Ryan Day, born on third. But yeah, Luke Fickle, Wisconsin's back.
I'm very, very excited. It's been a long time since I've been this excited about the Badgers.
It's a good hire. Yeah.
And recurring guest. Jake, finish us off before I totally lose my voice.
My who's back is slapping. We had an emergency podcast when Will Smith had the slap, and now we have it on the basketball court.
I don't know if you guys saw this video. Yeah.
Doug Eddard, NCAA tournament legend from St. Peter's.
He transferred to Bryant. They beat Syracuse this weekend.
We don't need to talk about that aspect of this. But Judah Mintz from Syracuse and Doug Eddard got in a slap-off.
And they both got ejected. And this was very interesting.
They were seeing a slap-off on the basketball court. Doug made a business decision during the slap-off.
Extricated himself from the slapping. All-time quick business decision.
Yeah't don't really blame him but he brought he brought like a uh a smack to a slap fight yeah he ran so fast yeah and syracuse fucked up they slapped first they did slap first and they lost so yeah oh how why is jmu back good question big cat because jmu in my mind and in your mind yeah are the Sunbelt East champions. I'm giving it to them because they covered with ease against Coastal.
It was impressive. That's their second top 25 win of the season.
Damn. The other being when they beat themselves, when Todd Centeno was a little bit banged up, and they were ranked 25 in the nation.
But I think it's a bullshit rule that they're not allowed to participate

in the Sunbelt Championship,

and they're not allowed to participate in the bowl season, all that shit.

Pizza party?

The pizza party, I said that I would throw them a pizza party.

I'll match.

Big Cat's matching.

We're going to throw them a pizza party.

Okay, it'll be a pizza party the likes of which they've never seen before.

I'm thinking 20.

You think 20 pies?

More?

Mm-mm.

30?

40. So I had like half the offensive line hit me up after the game being like, where's this pizza party? So I got to figure out how to do it.
You got 20. I got 20.
So 40. We mashed.
Okay, we'll do 40 Chinello's pizzas. No, how about some part of my cheesesteaks? We could toss in some cheesesteaks, and then we'll do some Chinello's cheesy bread too two liters of soda some coffee some coffee should we I was thinking that we'd do a banner too like Sunbelt East Champions but a small one yeah I never said how big the banner would be yeah it'll be a personalized but they're probably not allowed to hang in the stadium yeah due to conference regulations but I mean it's not their fault that they're banned from the postseason.
It's bullshit. The school moved up their first season ever in FBS, and they win their fucking conference division.
That rule should only be if you move down. I agree.
I agree. It's bullshit.
But what they did this year was legitimately incredible, and it was fun to watch. So a pizza party shall be yours.
I'm just trying to figure out how I go about doing this pizza party. We just order a pizza place and order it to the stadium.
Be like one of the offensive linemen. Be like, give us the night and we'll just order a bunch of pizzas.
If you're an offensive lineman at JMU, DM me. Let me know where you live.
Let me know what time would be appropriate. I will then send you all the money, and then you buy the pizzas.
No, I think we have to buy the pizzas. That's a pizza party.
Terrible idea. Well, hey.
All right, fine. Fuck it.
First of all, you said they already DM'd you. So just DM one of them back and be like, where do you want the pizzas and at what time? And then we will order the pizzas.
Where, what time, pizzas, and then we're going to order too many pizzas for you. Yeah.
One kid's going to get one pizza and then have like $300. Yeah, I know.
40 pizzas. Sunbelt champions.
All right. That's our show.
Numbers. So I, on Friday, Black Friday, in an effort to promote some merch.
Wait, wait, before you do this. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm going to do 17, big cat. I'll do 64.
In an effort to promote some merch, I said, if you buy some part of my take item and tweet me the receipt with a number, I'm going to put your name. I made a giant Google spreadsheet.
It took me all afternoon. Over 150 names.
It's all organized. I was going to start with the number that was most suggested, which was 17.
PFT took that like an absolute. What? Biatch.
You took your fucking time figuring out what number you were going to pick. Well, I was trying to explain it.
I was trying to move the show along out of this. Wait, you have to win with your number, not someone else's? No, I'm using.
These are my numbers from these people i'm gonna go with 31 by the way if you win 18 do you think they'll be like we'll just like go crazy and like i'll go crazy i was just thinking like what if we went crazy and like you know like a college basketball locker room where they're spraying water on them that would be crazy i think if I... We just sprayed water on them all over the place.
No. If you hit this, I'm dumping my urine on you.
Just so you know. I'm just saying that right now.
I'm dumping my urine on you if you hit this. All right, fine.
Okay, great. So shout out to the people that...
So what's your number? 31. Have you ever gotten it? McLaurin, McBaron, Midhat, Mike Jr.
All right. 17 max.
20. 18.
Memes has three. Memes has three.
What? I have 64. He's texted in his submission.
31, baby. Give it to me.
Give it to me. Oh, my God.
god That's gonna be disgusting I don't care 78 78 I This is fucked up It's not even on my list I think Hank's gonna get it now With somebody else's number? Yeah with someone else's number But Hank what happens what happens if you get it? You have to continue to use other people's numbers.

You never will get it with your own number.

Shut up.

I think you'll get it with other people's numbers.

This is bullshit.

No, it's not.

Just a test one.

Love you guys. A test?

Yeah, no, this doesn't count.

See everyone on Wednesday.

31. We're talking away.
I don't know what to say. I'd say it anyway.
Today is on my day to follow you. Shining away.
I'll be coming for your love again. Shining away.
I'll be coming for your love again. Needless.
I'll be coming for your lover, Dave.

Needless to say.

I've got some hands.

It's about me.

It's over there and wait.

It's better than my mind, Dave.

Say after me.

I'll be coming for your lover, Dave.

Say after me.

I'll be coming for your lover, Dave.

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