World Cup Preview With Taylor Twellmam, 1 Question With A Qb W/ Chad Kelly, Thanksgiving & Week 12 Preview

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We're going to talk about the Thanksgiving games. We're going to talk about Sunday.
We have a World Cup preview with Taylor Twellman. Yes a world cup preview it's about to start uh hopefully u.s beats wales i think they'll probably will right well yeah i think right now all we know is that u.s is dominant against wales historically uh argentina is looking like a wagon yep and then italy's a powerhouse yes yes so world cup preview with Taylor Twellman.
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And happy Thanksgiving to all. My favorite holiday of the year.
Easily. I love Thanksgiving.
It is the best. It's the best.
It's a holiday that is entirely centered around eating, drinking, and football. Yeah.
It's fucking heaven. it's basically a holiday meant to act like the fattest grossest slob degenerate and it's all like part of celebrating it yeah like if you if you just eat way too much you get you drink too much and you watch too much football you did a good job celebrating thanksgiving it's the best it is the absolute best it's, I think, Big Cat, you're on this team with me.
It's a great time to eat stuffing, but stuffing should be year round. Yes.
It should not be limited to the holidays. Big time.
I love stuffing. It's maybe my favorite dish, favorite side dish.
I would like to enjoy stuffing occasionally in the autumn, in the spring, in the summertime. Mix it around a little bit.
It's such a fat guy dish. That's why I think it gets only put out once a year.
It's really just bread. Right, exactly.
And then you pour animal fat onto it. Yeah, it's bread just given to you a different way.
Yeah, and sometimes you put sausage. I like a little sausage and cornbread in my stuffing, like the whole thing.
And then you douse it in gravy. You could actually make the argument it's the perfect split between a soup and a cereal.
Yeah. And a sandwich.
And a sandwich. Yeah.
So, yeah. Thanksgiving special.
We're going to do all of our Thanksgiving games before the Taylor Twellman interview. Then we will do a Sunday preview after.
So, if you have to work on Friday, quit your job. But if you can't quit your job because you need to live, then just pause it.
We'll tell you when to pause it. But let's talk a little Monday Night Football.
The 49ers, the San Francisco 49ers, they are scary. And this Jimmy G, this is the portion of the year that we have, I think, every year with Jimmy G where it's like he puts together a few games in a row, and I saw a stat where he was like in all meaningful quarterback metrics, he's top 10 yeah watch out well he's number one when it comes to just winning football games that's a fact Jimmy G's a winner he's a goddamn winner he played really well last night he had a little zip on the ball uh Colt McCoy I thought that he was going to come out a little bit stronger than he did yeah I always forget because you always get one good Colt McCoy game per year and then then you think it's going to carry over to the next week.
And you're like, no, Colt's the perfect quarterback to come out of nowhere and to play really, really well. This team, the Cardinals just weren't ready for it.
No. They weren't ready at all.
Even DeAndre Hopkins get the penalty for pointing at the 49ers. It's like, dude, you guys are so bad, you can't go backwards on these type of play like a good play can't now go backwards yeah because you're you're you're taunting the opponent you can't taunt in the middle of the field like i don't like that if you if you score a touchdown and do the point like aj brown did i love that he's like fuck you fuck you right i'm better that's cool if you do in the middle of the field it's like dude you're you're celebrating a 12-yard game yeah it was right it was nothing special and he did that and yeah the cardinals are an absolute dumpster fire i was thinking about this uh with jimmy g i think if you combine jimmy g and russell wilson you have the best quarterback in the nfl because jimmy g throws it over the middle so well you'd have a perfectly average amount of sex yeah yes yes exactly but he he throws he i feel like j like Jimmy G's number one pass is that slant that he hits perfectly.
Russell Wilson can't throw that. Jimmy G doesn't throw it deep.
Russell Wilson can. They win that Super Bowl if Russell Wilson's a quarterback.
He would have hit that deep pass. That's true.
He would have hit that deep pass, and then Jimmy G would have beaten the Patriots in the Super Bowl if he was on the Seattle Seahawksawks yes so this is that's weird over the middle sliding doors right i'm saying right like he he threw he throws that pass so that malcolm butler doesn't intercept it jimmy g does and russell wilson throws a pass who was it that he missed by a like two yards on the 49ers name line was it it wasn't crabtree uh emmanuel sanders yes Thank you. Emmanuel in space on that one.
But yeah. I was thinking about it.
You put them together. Someone face mash them.
The best quarterback in the NFL. What's their name? Jussel Wapolo.
I like Wapolo. Although that's very.
Yeah. What? It's anti-Italian discrimination.
My children are Italian. Jussel Wapolo.
I kind of like that.

Go Wapolo.

Jimmy Gouwap.

Remy Jilson.

Remy Jilson sounds like a hot porn star. Remy Jilson is, yeah.

What were you saying?

You disagree with us?

I just think you guys are discrediting how good Russell Wilson was.

He's past his prime.

No, but he's always.

No, Russell Wilson has always been very good, but he has always struggled throwing it over the middle of the field because he can't see. It's just a fact.
That's not his strength of his game. The strength of his game is those deep moon balls that always hit and, you know, being elusive.
What happened here was Hank heard us say that if Jimmy G was a quarterback on the Seahawks, the Patriots would have lost.

And then Hank freaked out.

Fact or fiction, Hank?

Yeah, fact or fiction.

That is 100% of fact.

I just want to say, I love Mexico.

I love the NFL games in Mexico.

They need to...

What's that, Hank?

Nothing.

What are you giggling about?

You giggled.

I'm sorry.

I apologize for laughing.

Regarding what?

Nothing.

Your love of Mexico is distracting.

I'm all serious from here on out.

It's distracting, Hank.

Thank you. You giggled.
I'm sorry. I apologize for laughing.
Regarding what? Nothing. Your love of Mexico is distracting.
I'm all serious from here on out. It's distracting, Hank.
Yes, sir. I love Mexico.
I love the fans in Mexico. I like how it's got kind of a quasi-professional wrestling vibe in the stadium down there.
The dude that announced it on ESPN last night, absolutely electric, just screamed into the camera for about 30 seconds. I was ready to go.
It was a perfect environment for Kittle. Our guy Kittle, yeah, was awesome.
A business decision by the Cardinals. Cardinals are dead.
They didn't want to tackle him. They don't want to play.
Cliff Kingsbury, you have to fire him. They're stuck with Kyler Murray.
The whole thing is just a disaster for the Cardinals.

We have a couple teams now.

It's funny how if you fire your coach, like, early enough in the season,

I take you out of the disaster category because, like, oh,

they're kind of moving.

Like, the Panthers are moving in the right direction,

even though the Panthers were more of a disaster than the Cardinals.

Yeah.

The Cardinals, as long as you have him around, like, this hard knocks can be great, and I don't really know what else. Like, you're not winning football games.
Look at it like a house. I would say that the Arizona Cardinals, they've got, you can work, you can build around that.
You don't even have to remodel it that much, right? It's got good bones, probably in a good neighborhood. It's just, yeah.
With Cliff Kingsbury, it's like the previous tenant died in there. Yeah.
And so you just got to clean the stink out real quick and steve keim both of them i think 2027 was their contract yeah so the previous tenant died and then you've also got like the previous tenants old like in-laws living in that weird house in the backyard that you're just waiting on them to die too yeah um but it's in a great neighborhood it Beautiful weather. Beautiful weather.
Lightning fast internet speed. Yeah, so the Cardinals, it's over.
This has been the easiest pinky team ever. They were both pinky teams, the Raiders and the Cardinals.
Either one would have worked. As dead as dead gets.
So I forgot that this game was going to be played in Mexico until we talked about it last week. Because I don't know, I tend to have a pretty good beat on what the international series is going to be.
This one kind of snuck up on me a little bit. The Mexicover did end up hitting with the altitude, which is like twice as high, I think, as in Denver.
So fun little story. I hit up Kittle on Friday because one of my great friends just got engaged.
he's a scottish 49ers fan don't ask me how he fell in love with the 49ers but he did and i was like i was like greg if you can send just a message saying congrats to my scottish friend patty uh you can take my spot on part of my take if i get arrested in qatar yeah because he did audition for it when i went over to hong k He's the only person who's ever auditioned for your seat. So he sent my friend Patty a video, and I didn't realize this, at the very end of the interview, or at the very end of the video, he said, now sack tap PFT for me.
And so my buddy was watching it on Friday night, saw it, hit me so fucking hard in the nuts. That's awesome.
It ruined my night. But on the other hand, I was like, that's pretty cool.
You should have watched the whole video. Yeah, well, I should have.
I just... Yeah, you got to watch the whole video.
I didn't because it was for him, but they got me. Yeah.
They got me good. That's great.
George Kittle is the man, and he scored two touchdowns, and he was... I just love watching him play football.
It feels like he's healthy, and the Niners are the scariest team. They are the scariest team in the NFL.
I know that doesn't mean they're the best. They're the scariest.
Yeah. Because it feels like when they're right, and it's probably more about Kyle Shanahan's system and when the blocks are correct and everything's working, it basically feels unstoppable.
But with Debo Kittle and Christian McCaffrey, it's scary. And Trent Williams.
And Trent and Iuke yeah and Iuke too yeah he had some good block when they get running downhill at you it's it's beautiful it's beautiful it is like the most beautiful brand of football that you can imagine and a lot of people are you know they look at offenses like the Chiefs or the Bills that have these huge passes downfield and just like electric quarterbacks with great arms.

That's cool, too.

But when the 49ers get their running game going, it is fucking sexy.

Poetry in motion.

Okay, so should we do some Thanksgiving stuff?

Because that was Monday Night Football.

I'm thinking, oh, Will Compton, year 10, happened.

He's on the Falcons now. That was the other big NFL news from yesterday.
Huge. Will Compton.
Yeah, huge news. Big news.
Enormous news. Falcons now look very dangerous.
Well, it was going to lead me into my favorite. I was going to take the Commanders.
Oh, well, we're not doing that until the other side of the show. I'm factoring Will Compton heavily into that.
Will Compton, I mean, he basically single-handedly took the raiders to the playoffs and then got cut but he took them to the playoff willie yeah if he's playoff willie again and i am rooting for him because of the falcons future like that would be that would be amazing okay you saw you know arthur smith after the last game was like we're gonna stick with mary oden until we're out of this playoff hunt they're bringing in will comp playoff. Playoff Willie.
They're going all in. We talk about the different teams.
The Eagles are all in right now. The Niners all in.
I think it's safe to say the Atlanta Falcons are all in. They are all in.
They've mortgaged their future for playoff Willie. They have.
Fuck them picks. Yes, yes.
Playoff Willie. Okay, let's do the Thanksgiving preview.
Talk about the games. Maybe even what everyone's favorite Thanksgiving food is.
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Thanksgiving. Three games.
What we're going to do is everyone's got one pick for Thanksgiving, and then we'll do our usual four picks on Sunday. Jake, where are we at right now? I know Max had a big week.
Max went 4-0. Yeah, because he did.
The tell was very apparent when he popped in on Sunday. He was like, seems like everyone's killing it this week with picks.
I was like, I'm not. And he's like, oh.
And Jake's like, well, you are, Max. Well, the good news for Max is he's 4-0.
The bad news, it jumped in the second place. Oh.
So that's a little twist of this competition. Yes.
So, Big Cap, you're at 23-20-1. So you're three games up on Max, 20-23-1.
PFT and myself are 20-24 24 half game behind him and then hank and billy tied for last at 17 and 27 so there's three games separating the two of them so right now it'd be max and either a tie for hank and billy but a lot of picks a lot of picks there's four times seven 28 picks so 28 picks well 29 thanksgiving you okay hank Why not? The whole group is separated by, like, four games. Like, no one's safe from anything.
Yeah, I just want to be better. I'm mad at myself.
I hold myself to high standards. I just want to let you know, though, that you are not what your record is.
Like, that doesn't identify you. Yes.
That's not your identity. We're talking about Thanksgiving and family, and it's like, I feel like that's all people are going to ask me about.
It's six and a half games. You are not alone in being a bad gambler.
You're like, hey, Henry, good to see you. You're so much more.
17 and 27, what the fuck? You're so much more than a bad gambler. You're a bad lottery ball picker, too.
And hungry dog pro-life. I'm doing one for Thanksgiving.
Good. It will lose.
And I'll bet on it. You won at least two and two since week six.
Yeah. Fuck yeah.
Oh, hell yeah. All right.
I like them apples. All right.
So go ahead. Week six? It's week 12.
Seven through ten, you went 0 and 4, 0 and 4, 1 and 3, 1 and 3. That's tough.
It's week 12. Okay.
Hank, you can pick from any three games. You can pick any pick.
Patriots, money line. Big.
Well, so you get plus three. Don't care.
Oh, is it two and a half? Two and a half. you think the Patriots money line big well yeah you get plus three don't care oh is it is it two and a half two and a half you think the Patriots talk to us I think it's gonna be a shootout two great teams Vikings Kirk Cousins elite they're gonna have a bounce back game after you know got a little bit caught off guard a little bit of a trap game knowing that they had this game coming up on Thanksgiving.
It's kind of a look ahead. And I think Mac Jones is going to ball out again.
The offense is going to be buzzing, probably taking an alternate over. Thanksgiving is going to be buzzing.
Are you saying that the Vikings got caught in a trap game last week? They got caught in a look ahead is the proper word. A look ahead to the Patriots.
Yeah, they were thinking about the Patriots instead of the Cowboys. Correct.
Okay. Yeah.
No thought okay I have a stat though for you don't care okay I'll just put it back in my pocket is it a good stat or a bad one it's a good one all right I care oh okay it's at one o'clock right no oh okay well it's then mid-afternoon right incorrect oh so it's nighttime night Kirk Cousins nighttime interesting I would say though that all Thanksgiving games are prime time. No? All of them are nighttime games? I actually kind of agree with Dave.
Stand alone. Stand alone prime time.
They are prime time. Yeah.
In their own right. Like the crews are setting their A teams.
Yes. That's how I go off is the crews.
That's how I watch all my games. I don't really enjoy the game unless the A crews.
Nope. In the last 15 years, Billichick has faced 11 teams in november or later who are above 500 with a negative point differential he's uh 10 and 0 against the spread against them love that so basically the teams that look good on record and are terrible because everyone knows they're actually terrible and the Vikings aren't terrible but frauds let's say Bill Bledsoeck owns those teams I think they're legitimate frauds though because they're they're going to keep winning yeah right and then we know a lot of games um so I did a little look ahead because you know you did you pick out you were generous enough last week to show me the path to the playoffs for the commanders I think they're going and uh if they do get there, they'll probably end up being the seventh seed, and I realized

what's going to happen.

Yeah.

They're going to be the seventh seed.

I'm going to play against Kirk Cousins in the first round, and he is going to whoop

the dog shit out of me.

Yes.

That's what's going to happen in the playoffs.

You're going to win.

I see it coming a mile away.

Now, I'm okay with that.

I understand that that's my fate already, and I accept it. But this would go a long way to maybe them not getting the two seed if the Patriots could win.
Yeah, so go win. Go win, Hank.
Go out there and win. Fine.
Okay. I'm very excited, though.
Ever since you kind of burst my bubble with the Thanksgiving. You couldn't have jumped on the Minnesota Vikings bandwagon in a worse time.
They were an 8-1 team that lost their worst loss in 50 years, and then they play your actual team the next week. Not a lot of foresight.
That's a sign of how it's been going for me this year. But primetime Thanksgiving night, all the holidays are over.
You don't really have to worry about, like, sometimes if you're playing in the early games and it's Thanksgivinggiving you have to kind of like do dinner yeah and only half watch tv it's a little bit more of a balance and kind of you have to mix and match but the night game is perfect yeah they didn't used to always have the night game either that's a fairly recent addition that they put out there do you know when it came was that raven steelers was it about fumble what year do you think? 2010? 2009. 2006.

Okay.

So I... Was that Raven Steelers? Was it Bob Fumble? What year do you think?

2010?

2009.

2006.

Okay. So I also was like, it's very recent.

It's like 2006 isn't that recent anymore.

Yeah, that's true.

That's like one of those things like we're –

I still remember it.

That's how I go off of it.

Right, but that's –

because I had the exact same thought last night when I was prepping for the show.

I was like, when did this actually start?

And 2006 was, what, 16 years ago?

So, yeah, that sucks.

That is tough.

That sucks.

It's no longer a recent addition.

But, yeah, the night game is the game that you get to, like,

actually sit and consume the whole game.

Yeah.

What's the next holiday for the NFL? Because they've already shown that they can take Christmas, which they have. Diwali might be next.
Black Friday. Hanukkah.
Black Friday. That's right.
They're going Black Friday. They can schedule a game on Easter Sunday, just a standalone game.
Schedule a game whenever they want. And then nobody would go to church.
We'd all stay at home and watch this game. I still don't really understand how bezos is even going to buy the commanders uh he's like the richest guy in the world cast but how is that not a conflict of interest do you think roger goodell actually cares about a conflict of interest if it would make the the median price of every team in the nfl increase by like 30 percent yeah but it just it's someone with legal knowledge needs to explain that to me because it doesn't make any sense with you.
You can just say, like, oh, it's in a blind trust, and then everybody will be like, oh, okay, blind trust. Yeah.
We're blind to it. Yep.
I think that's how it works. Max, so you have the Patriots, plus two and a half.
Moneyline. Moneyline, but...
Okay, so fine. Fine.
You have Moneyline. Counts as one.
Wait, so this is real? No, no. Okay, all right, two and a half.
Stop saying Moneyline. But I'm, so fine.
Fine. You have a money line.
Counts as one. Wait, so this is real?

No, no.

Okay.

All right, two and a half.

Stop saying money line.

But I'm taking a money line.

Okay.

I'm taking Bill's lines over.

Fun, wake-ups, roofer points.

54.

I like that.

That's going to be very fun over.

I'm also taking that over.

Yeah.

I'm very excited for that game.

Josh Allen.

Thanksgiving. Oh, it's going to be fun.
they they're gonna have the turducken yeah they also it's the first thanksgiving without john madden right first thanksgiving game when did he die i think he died in december of last year yeah you might so this is gonna be the first one that's gonna be it's gonna be sad without him but that will be they need to they need to do like a full montage appreciating how much john madden loved that fucking turducken i was uh i like i said i was looking up thanksgiving uh history with the football with the nfl and i thought there was going to be something cool with the lions like why this happened it was just the lions owner was like a savvy businessman and he was like i want i want to do a game where everyone has to watch yeah that was and then the cowboys were like yeah we want that too that's smart and they came later and that was it like it was i i thought it was gonna be something very cool like oh you know the first ever game of football in november played it you know outside of detroit something like no if they were smart they would have just found something in history and tied it into that just be like that's why we're doing it but'd like more money, please. Yeah, this is exactly what it is.
Yes, you're right. Yeah, John Madden died December 28th, 2021.
So this will be... There's going to be a John Madden logo on the 25-yard lines at each game.
Oh, I love that. Very cool.
What kind of logo is it? John Madden's face? Oh, I love it. That's him being held up.
This is why whenever all those British fucks... Yeah, I'm in war mode for Friday.
Like, you don't understand what the Queen means to us. Yeah, we do.
John Madden, dude. Oh, John Madden impacted way more lives than the Queen.
Yeah, but I'm saying, we get it. We get the cultural touchstone here.
Yes. It's John Madden.
He's going to be on every field. He should be on every logo on on every field, every Thanksgiving, forever.
They should name football after him. Name the NFL, the Madden League.
They should put, what is it, Plymouth Rock in his coffin. Yeah.
Why not? Yeah. Let's go.
We didn't land on John Madden. John Madden landed on us.
Yes, let's just make Thanksgiving is just John Madden's birthday. Yeah.
We'll just say that from now on a turducken should be called a madden bird it's like this is it's john madden all the lore all right okay so the over uh in that game is uh 54 right the the lions by the way have lost 15 consecutive games straight up as an underdog on thanksgiving so they're nine point underdogs so probably probably not smart to just bet the bills money line straight up. But it's been a while.
It was very funny. A lot of people did send me their schedules for what they do in Detroit on Thanksgiving because everyone does get into their routine.
But for the most part, they've just kind of accepted the Lions losing. I told you being part of the holiday.
Didn't I call that? Yeah. And it's like, OK, I'm going to be upset, but guess what? I'm going to be drunk by the second half anyways.

Right. I think it's probably just one of those situations where everyone

just bonds over the fact that the Lions suck, and you

can't let it... You can't

have a football game ruin

your Thanksgiving every single

year and not get to a point where it's like,

I choose not to let this ruin my Thanksgiving

anymore. Yeah.
Yeah. So

what's your pick? My pick, I'm going to go with another over. I'm going to do the Giants-Cowboys over.
44 and a half. So I wanted to do the fun over.
That to me seemed better, but that's a lot of points. This is fewer points.
And also, I feel like they are both showing off for Odell Beckham. I am also going to do that over.
So over 44 and a half. And it might be the Cowboys might get it on their own because they looked unstoppable last week.
Yes. And I think the Cowboys are going to demolish the Giants.
This is where the Giants, if they lose by double digits, it's going to start being like, uh-oh. Like the free fall, the real Giants the the roster that isn't that good is shown up i don't i don't know if they're going to lose by double digits though i'm just saying if if that happens you're you're right i i would actually say because remember what was it uh maybe two years ago when the raiders beat the the cowboys the cowboys whenever you think the cowboys are good on thanksgiving i feel like they lay an egg yeah So, yeah, you're probably right.
It'll probably be closer than that. But I'm just saying, if the Giants look bad for two weeks in a row here, after kind of struggling weirdly with the Texans, I think we all can circle it and be like, maybe this isn't a playoff.
Well, we've kind of been in the same mood about the Giants all year, which is just the bubble is going to burst at some point. Yes.
Let's enjoy the bubble. Enjoy the ride.
Enjoy the bubble. That's a beautiful bubble that you're blowing right now.
Yes. But at some point, somebody's bubble is going to burst at some point yes let's enjoy the bubble enjoy the ride enjoy the bubble that's a beautiful bubble that you're blowing right now yes but at some point somebody's face is going to get stuck in it yes and i think it's going to get someone's hair yeah do the peanut butter yeah we're thinking that that might have to be in these next couple weeks right okay but not taking anything away from the giants because they are actually they've been a good team and a fun team to watch.
Yes. Just not forever.
Jake, your pick is, Billy, you also have the over in the first game. I'm going with Patriots-Vikings under 42 and a half.
The Patriots have not allowed a touchdown in the last two games, and I don't know if they can necessarily score. Okay, so if you go to the Barstool Sportsbook, we have the new Overs Club out, the gobble, the big gobble.
So, Jake, you are not a not a member of the overs club just want to say that right now great jackets that you can win you're out i'm out the big gobble sorry no it's fine it's fine you want to you you take the under well it can still hit and i can't you're right you're right you're right you're right come on you're right you're right we can get an overfest and get 70 points in the first game. It should be in the law that the games have to go over on Thanksgiving.
Yeah. That's something that you just need for the world.
Yeah. It should almost be like, I wish we were living in a simulation where they could make it so that everyone gets a free win every Thanksgiving.
That would be nice. Just boost the morale of the world.
That would be nice. But also, there's something nice about having one game that's not like a points factory during Thanksgiving.
Because we all have things that we have to do. You can take your eye off of, yeah.
Yeah, whether it's tending the turkey, preparing a side dish, going for a walk with your cousins, Hank. There's all sorts of things that happen on Thanksgiving that you want to be able to...
Everyone needs a pause button yeah i'm doing uh yeah i mean thanksgiving you the the one tip i'd give everyone is always just make sure that you find something that you can help out with and and and volunteer for it early in the day because you want to get you want to start getting that credit early in the day yep oh i can go grab this or i can I can go do this, or take out the trash, or do something. Some kind of errand or chore.
Taking out the trash before the trash actually fills up is a great move. Yes, yes.
But find that chore, find that errand, and nail it. And just absolutely nail it.
Okay. Anything else for Thanksgiving? Anyone want to say something they're thankful for? Hank gave me a little look when I said that he goes for a walk with his cousins.
You were the one that brought that up. Today? No, but it's something that you said that you enjoy doing.
It's on your Mount Rushmore of Thanksgiving things from like years ago. Hank's feisty.
No, you... He gets feisty around vacation times.
I'm very thankful for you guys. It's not vacation times.
It is vacation times. Ah, yeah.
It is vacation time. I'm very thankful for you guys.
I'm very thankful for the show. I'm very thankful for the AWLs.
I don't appreciate PFT trying to create and manufacture drama and saying that I'm giving looks when I'm just giving, you know. Max, did you have the camera on Hank when he gave me that look? No comment.
It was, man. I don't know why you're so upset.
I'm thankful. Shut up.
I'm thankful. I'm not thankful for you gaslighting.
I'm thankful for the lottery ball machine making sure that Hank never wins. I'm thankful for that.
It's one of my favorite. I look forward to it every day that we tape the show being like, today's the day that Hank won't get it.
I look forward to it, too. I'm thankful for the lottery machine as well.
It keeps me humbled. It gives me a reason to wake up in the morning, and I'm excited.
I'm excited to win. And you're not mad.
And I'm excited to share with them. No, I'm not.
Different. You know, it takes time, Big Cat.
Everyone's different. This one doesn't count.
Yes, it does. No, it doesn't.
No, it doesn't. 17, 69.
Yes, it does. No, it doesn't.
Yes, it does. All right, the guess.
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Yes, it does. Yes, it does.
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I'm thankful for whatever that was right there. You can't do that.
I can do whatever I want. It's my lottery ball machine, buddy.
I can do whatever I want. Okay.
Side note, I'm very thankful for you guys. I'm thankful for all you guys.
I'm thankful for the listeners, truly. And, yeah, I love Thanksgiving.
It's the best. I love everything about Thanksgiving.
It's nice to have a little break. You know what I like? I like the Thanksgiving walk that you take before the meal, like you go out in the morning maybe.
Go out with the relatives. Like cousins? No, not your cousins.
No, I'm not talking about drugs, Big Cat. I'm saying you can enjoy your family without having to do drugs with them.
But you go out for a nice little walk around the neighborhood. Usually a nice little wind.
It's a little chilly. You get a breeze going.
Maybe get a cup of coffee on your walk. Come back and just have a good conversation without having to ingest any mind-altering substances.
It's also very funny because that walk, you go out for... You're not even spending Thanksgiving with your family.
You're going to be in Cutter. Yeah, I'm spending it with the global family, Hank.
I'm spending it with the Cutter royal family. Some might say that that's more important.
That's the most important. Some might say that's problematic.
No, no. Who would say that?

Liars.

You did.

All fair.

And people who were falling for the fake news propaganda.

Didn't you say fuck them?

No.

No, I said fuck, they're wonderful.

Fuck, they're wonderful.

I said fuck, these guys really have their act together.

And we're all lucky to live in the same era as the emir and his father.

That walk is so funny because you basically say to everyone around you, together um and we're all lucky to live in the same era as the emir and his father that that walk

is so so funny because you basically say to everyone around you your family your friends

whatever that you're going on the walk with like let's go out and take a walk so that we feel like

we did something today and then we can go back inside and eat 10 000 calories yeah it's like

let's do a let's do a uh my or a two mile slow walk that will burn maybe 45 calories to then feel like we earned this meal.

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Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay.
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My hot seat is EA Sports. So disappointed.
It's not in the game. They are delaying the release of NCAA football until 2024.
Why? Why? I don't know if they gave a reason. I think it's just because they hate us and they want us to be unhappy.
I thought this was a joke. I thought memes was fucking with me because he tweeted out, like, Big Cat when he sees this news.
And it was one of his millions of memes. Why? Why? Someone find out why.
I don't think it actually has to do with the game. But organizing the rights with players.
Well then fucking organize it. Hire some more people to organize it.
I want to play the game. Can't somebody just make a bootleg version of the game? Just make it without any of the...
Just do it without entering any licensing degree. They do the script shit.
Yeah, they do wild stuff. What, if your console is hacked or something? You can do updated rosters and shit from the 2014 version.
Yeah, we got a USB that we had to ingest current rosters. It's crazy.
It was insane. Fields, logos, teams, players.
But I guess what I'm saying is can't somebody. That's a lot of work.
The normal, the common man's not doing that. So nobody can just like design the game on their own and then put it out for free? They just need to send out an email, like an Elon email, to like every Division one college football player and be like hey everyone really wants this game if you're not cool with it you got to respond in the next 15 minutes opt out it sounds to me like ea sports isn't hardcore they're not hardcore i'm so upset about this because when the initial game was announced it was coming back was what last summer so it was like this is going to take forever to get to 2023 i we might not even be alive 2024 is so long from now yeah nuclear war you get stuck in cutter starts a nuclear war starts a nuclear war we got to drop the nukes yep all right feel free i will i will do my best to make sure that we nuke Qatar if they keep you.
Thank you. Go to the University of Utah and activate their nuclear reactor and then fire a cruise.
That's my promise to you. Okay.
I'll do that. Hank.
What a guy. How many other co-hosts out there? Nuclear war.
Like promise to commit nuclear. Who just, you'll match? Thank you, Hank.
There we go double. I promise to go to Cutter to try to get you out first.
That would make things way worse. Perfect.
And then we get you out and then we nuke Cutter while Billy's still there. Whoa, where are you guys? A tactical nuke.
Just on Billy. Yes.
I'd survive and turn into Godzilla. I mean, you can't offer, you can't love someone more than willing to start nuclear war.
You can. It's like that old chick from Greece, the face that would launch 1,000 ships.
Yeah. This is the podcast that would launch 1,000 cruise missiles.
Yeah, this is the highest form of bro love. Yeah.
Okay. I had another hot seat that popped in my head before we started, but I didn't write it down, then I forgot it, so hot seat me.
Oh my cool throne. I don't I'm corporate.
Vacations are different. I'm not I'm not in that same.
You get a mandatory four weeks a year. No, we don't get any mandatory vacation.
That's been my biggest gripe with this company forever. That's your biggest gripe.
We don't mandatory vacation. Well, yeah, they say you get unlimited vacation days and then you take a one vacation day and you get shamed on it for 12 years straight uh guy takes what guy starts one world war everyone's got a problem i shot i shot one archduke okay and now everyone's got everyone puts me in their history books but if you i'm not gonna get If you looked at other countries and how they do it, it's crazy.

Yeah, yeah.

No, no.

Europe and our corporations.

You send one telegram to Mexico, and next thing you know.

I'm still waiting for Hank to be like, we should be more like Greece and just have a

big report on it.

All right.

Go ahead.

Cool throne.

Greece is nice.

Cool throne is the Bruins.

They're the greatest team in hockey.

I know he did that preview with Whitney.

I don't think he even expected them to be as good as they are.

17-2.

Patrice Bergeron scored his 1,000th point last night.

I'm trying to work on a bet in the Barstow Sportsbook for the Bruins and Celtics to win their respective conferences.

So, be on the lookout for that.

Okay.

Are you at all concerned that in hockey sometimes you get out to a hot start like this and it's just not going to last?

Well, it would be impossible for them to keep this up. Right.
Well, no, it wouldn't. They would be the greatest team in hockey history by a wide, wide, wide margin.
That's a beta mentality. It would not be impossible.
Just keep being awesome. Yeah.
That's why they're on my cool throw. Aren't the Devils sick, too? The Devils, I think, are a lot better than everyone thought they would be.
Yeah. And I that because frank just hasn't been complaining about right right he's he's he just he's like silently taking them out of his uh complaint rant yeah he's like a carbon monoxide detector where like if if he's quiet that means everything's awesome right right okay hot seat cool throw and pft uh my hot seat is lionel messi in argent in Argentina because Argentina just lost two to one against the kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
This never happened. Maybe the biggest defeat in the World Cup.
Some are asking is Messi a bust? Some are asking is Messi the Chris Paul of soccer? I think it's a fair comparison at this point. Yeah.
So we have Taylor Trelman on who we we taped it obviously before that game so that was interesting interesting plot twist it was like it was very bizarre because i woke up and i i am a a big messy fan i've i've staked my claim in the in the goat debate as being a messy guy i woke up and i looked on twitter and it was just i was getting bombarded and i've never had that happen at seven in the morning you know where it's like it was it was a live event that people were just fucking hammering me about awesome game too because like what the fuck but one of my new favorite things to look at is the expected goals which is just a metric that makes no sense whatsoever but you can look at it after the game's over and be like we totally should have won won that game. It's the best for saying like, oh, man, the over should have hit.
Yeah, or like, I can't believe we lost by three goals. We should have won by one.
Right. And in this one, it was, I think, the expected goals for Saudi Arabia was like .2, and for Argentina it was like 2.5, but somehow Saudi Arabia beat them 2-1.
Probably the biggest upset in World Cup history, at least in the group stage. And I am a Messi fan insofar as if it's Messi or Ronaldo.
Don't leave us now. No, no, no, no, no.
Don't leave us now. I've always been consistent on this.
It's the toughest times. Always dark before dawn.
I've always said this. Messi over Ronaldo every single time, but my goat is Maradona.
Because Maradona does everything Messi does, except he was shorter, fatter, and on cocaine. Yeah.
That's true. That's a compelling argument.
Yeah, it's easy. It's easy for me.
Okay. My cool throne is Jim Harbaugh.
Because Jim Harbaugh came up with a new acronym today, because he's heard young people calling athletes dogs and saying, I've got that dog in me in me yep that sort of thing so so harbaugh got to work on a spreadsheet came up with an acronym for it and he defined the term as being disciplined athlete with grit love it dog dog it's a dog that's a dog that's a dog it's jim harbaugh's version of a dog i just love that har hears whatever youngsters are saying. He's like, I'm going to figure out a way to turn this into a motivational poster.
So I got sent a video, unnamed source, can't reveal, of Jim Harbaugh that I forgot to share with you, PFT. I'm not going to share with anyone else in this room.
Big Cat. Oh, you got it as well.
Probably from the same unnamed source. Yeah, yeah.
So we're not allowed to share, but it's just a video of Jim Harbaugh flexing for the camera for like 20 seconds straight. I love him so much.
He's jacked up right now. He's so jacked up.
He's very vascular. He's just like, look at this.
Can you believe this? This 55-year-old guy. Actually, I'm going to...
Send it to the group. I'm going to...
No, because it can't... It doesn't leave, yeah.
Yeah, it doesn't leave us. I wanted to put it out there for the Masters.
I want... Oh, instantly, but couldn't do it.
Couldn't do it. But either way, I'm jacked up for that Ohio State-Michigan game.
Jim Harbaugh, just – there's something about that guy. I just keep going back being like, I fucking love this guy.
He is just football through and through. I'm looking forward to watching the game this weekend.
I looked at the weather forecast. I think I'm going to have to bet on Ohio State, though.
Okay. Well, I'm betting on the weather.
Give me that video back. I'm betting on the weather.
Send me that video and delete it from your phone. I already had it.
Delete it. I'm just betting on the weather.
It's going to be like 15 rainy. That's not shitty enough for Michigan to win this game, I think.
And Michigan does have some injuries. Blake Corum, I think, was in a walking boot.

We'll see.

I think he's going to play.

But either way, it's going to be – it hasn't –

the game hasn't felt this big since probably 2006.

Yeah.

When it was – I guess they did have the game where Ohio State won with that spot.

They were both going to the college football playoff that year.

But 11-0, 11-0, nothing better than that.

Okay, my hot seat is myself because I'm in the middle of Feast Week. I love Feast Week so much for everyone who is out there who's a big college basketball fan.
Feast Week's the best week because you just get random tournaments in random locations. I was watching a game.
Where's Mississippi State playing right now? I believe Daytona. i watched that whole game the other uh last night um there's something about feast week where it's like oh it's two o'clock let me let me bet on these two teams that i know nothing about and get my teeth kicked in so i'm on a hot seat it's basically a day-by-day thing i was up till two in the morning watching maui which is my favorite tournament which we got to go do some year yeah we should we should.
We should go do Thanksgiving as a podcast in Hawaii some year. But not Hank, because Hank has to go on vacation that week.
Yes, that's true. But I'm going to say that right now.
Fort Myers. You know what? Oh.
Whoa. Sip of my Diet Coke.
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What? You're on a Diet Coke kick. I am am you've been shaming me about that see this is my problem I'm not shaming what were you saying Hank are you protesting what I was saying are you noticing or are you shaming it doesn't count how did you do this all the time no it doesn't count this doesn't count.
This doesn't count. There's 99 in there.
That officially does not count. What were you saying, Hank? 64.
64 is... Doesn't count.
It's a wagon. It doesn't count.
Even though it doesn't count. It's on fire.
You guys are gaslight enthusiasts. Okay.
I am on a Diet Coke. I like Diet Coke, but...
Nothing wrong with that. Either way, I'm going to proclaim it right now.
Within the next five years, this podcast is doing the Maui tournament. Yeah.
I'm Hawaii for Thanksgiving. We'll get a big fucking pig with pineapple.
Yeah. Hula skirts.
I have to bring my whole family. Spin fire.
So I have to figure out how to get them on that plane. But that's fine.
We're going. We're going.
It's going to be like, you know how Adam Sandler, once he turned like 40 years old, he just decided that he was going to film every single movie in Hawaii with his friends just so that they could get paid to hang out there. That's what this podcast should turn into.
What if we just move to Hawaii? What if I just make my kids like, I'm like, yeah, they're running the social account now. Yeah.
And I'm paying them. So they have to come with us.
I like that. Nepotism.
Let's go. Yeah.
Okay. My cool throne is throne is you the listeners because you probably are seeing what pft and i are wearing right now what billy's wearing what jake's wearing what hank's wearing what max is wearing all of this gear you see right now 20 off on black friday so we have so much new stuff billy you want to take out out of my bag get in my bag oh don't rip my bag.
Deepen that bag. So we got, what was that? Oh, that's a Stella Blue ugly sweater.
We got part of my take hats with the Coors Light. We have some sick polos.
That was Memes is wearing that polo, and he's a savage and didn't turn it back inside out. Part of my take sweatshirts.
Roback. I like the new Roback embroidered part of my take ones.
Yeah. Right now.
It's the best. Car sticks.
Oh, what is that? That's the pullover. They just folded it.
Oh, I want that. Give that to me.
I want to wear that too. Yeah, these things are awesome.
That's what you're wearing right now. That's what I'm rocking.
It's a windbreaker. It's got the Blue Mountains on there.
It's great. All this stuff.
All this stuff. You know what? It's giving Riz.
But yeah, Black.

No, that's good.

Hank, are you protesting? No, that's funny.

That's a good one.

Anytime you're a bad boy, I'm just going to get the reaction to that one.

Anytime you say anything,

get surly with us.

Anytime I say anything, that's the problem.

Hank's just jealous because you're

Riz-less right now, Hank.

These windbreakers are awesome.

Doesn't count.

Thank you. Yeah, Hank's jealous because you're Riz-less right now, Hank.
These windbreakers are awesome. Doesn't count.
17. 100! Oh, wow.
Have we ever gotten 100 yet? Yeah, we got it. That's like when the green hits and none of these count.
And there's a fake 69 because Billy stole the ball for a little bit. Yeah, that was cool of you, Billy.
Not. All right, your hot seat, cool thrown.
So everyone so everyone go to the Barstool store pardon my take all of our new gear 20% off on Black Friday Billy my hot seat is Zach Wilson why officially they are you yeah you mean Patrick Mahomes so on that take on that take I will say if you took Zach Wilson and Patrick Mahomes and made them compete in a horse or pig-like game where they had to complete certain throws, probably not covered, they'd probably have a competitive game. You are insane.
That's all I'm saying. The take is getting worse.
I know. As you try to smooth off the edges of this take it's actually getting way way worse because did you did you watch Zach Wilson's throws he can't even hit the defenders in stride anymore at least he was hitting dudes like right in their hands a couple weeks ago now it's like he's very inaccurate right now yeah uh so coach Salah was an hour late to his meeting with the media and he, you know, players have been accidentally liking tweets that are critical and he's officially came out and said that he is considering changes at the quarterback position.
No duh. So, yeah, but it was a hard line before.
It's now changed. He is on the hot seat.
Actual hot seat. Flacco, man.
This is Flacco's team. I know, but everyone's just been cherry-picking bad stats.
He's played one of the hardest schedules. I don't think it's cherry-picking.
You really don't have to cherry-pick. He had 44 net yards.
Moving on. Did you see that? Did you see that one? That's cherry-picked.
All 22 of Denzel Mims wide open in the end zone. And he was scrambling.
And he was looking at him. He was looking at him.
I know. I know.
It was a lot. Billy, my sympathy for you because, again, I've been in your shoes.
The team is very good. The quarterback is not good.
This next stretch, I think he's either going to explode or he's not going to explode. And it's either going to be good or it's going to be very telling this Sunday against the Bears.
Yeah, no, he better light them up. If he doesn't light them up, then...
This could be a motivational tactic by Salah,

just to be like, I'm not committing to you as a starter.

You better shape the fuck up this week,

and then everyone earns their job this weekend.

That's a good point.

It was more the response in postgame about letting the defense down.

I think that's what lost the locker room.

He better be putting his body on the line,

earning his teammates' respect on Sunday. But we'll see.
And my cool throne is the Netherlands head coach. Did you see that clip? No.
He just invited his wife on camera in front of the media to his hotel room to have sex on camera. Oh.
What did he say? Wait, to have sex on camera? Not on camera, but he just literally was like, you come to my hotel room and we're gonna have sex just out of nowhere during a media conference i love that it was in dutch there's not enough of that out in the media these days like you say what you want about rex ryan but at least he was like publicly horny for his wife's feet yeah you know you don't get enough wife guys just being like i want to bang my wife now yeah brock lesner remember that when he was, I might get on top of my wife tonight. Yeah.
And drink a Coors Light. Yes.
Yes. What a moment.
Yes. Thankful for Coors Light.
Okay. Jake, finish this off and we'll go to Taylor Twelman.
My hot seat is having sources. We have a source issue with Lane Kiffin involving a potential move from Ole Miss to Auburn.
John Sokoloff of WCBI reported that he would be moving to Auburn, and Lane Kiffin denied that. And then Lane Kiffin said breaking news, John Sokoloff plans to step down, and he got him back.
Yeah, I saw that. He did the same thing he did, but for an anchor position instead of the head coach.
Except Lane Kiffin also printed off a piece of paper and then took a picture of the piece of paper for some reason. Yes.
And said, I guess it was supposed to be a fax that just came through. All I'm going to say is Lane Kiffin, the amount of fun he's having on Twitter right now, this would be a really mean way to leave Ole Miss.
I don't think he cares, though. I know.
I can see him absolutely leaving. I know.
With some interesting emojis. Because he's really having fun with this.
So if then he's just like, yeah, I'm actually leaving, that would suck. So our friend T-Bob Hebert, he is on the Little Man Committee out of Baton Rouge, he put out a hypothetical.
He said if you're Texas A&M and you scrounge together the money, you should make Lane Kiffin

turn your job down now.

Yeah.

And what is it, like $96 million?

$95 million.

$95 million.

What's the price of oil like right now?

Because that does make a difference for Texas A&M.

That's a fact.

Because they're boosters.

If oil is high, they're able to afford a much more substantial buyout.

So if the price of oil goes up, then A&M could pay Jimbo Fisher $95 million to leave, which you have to be rooting for, right? Yes, yes. I think Jimbo is at the point, too, where he might take less money.
They might be able to go to the negotiating table and be like, how about $60 million? $60 million you don't like it here. Yeah, like you don't like it here.
We don't like

you here. Let's just end this thing.

I'd say that's fair. That was a sad sight on

Saturday. Oh my God.
UMass.

Oh my God. Didn't even

come close to cover. Nobody stayed in the stadium

for the second half. Nobody.

It was cold though. It was.

Yeah. Yeah.
It was cold. Very

chilly. It was cold.
It's never been cold in a football

game before. Okay, let's get to Taylor Twelman.
For anyone who has to work. Quick, the cool throne.
Oh, yeah, sorry. Cool throne.
My bad. A little time travel, but Philly fans, because Ben Simmons returns tonight.
Oh. Yeah.
No Embiid though. It's happening.
It'll happen by the time this is out, so we can make our predictions. Max.
What happens? The reception. Max, thoughts? I have a take ben simmons has actually been kind of likable in this in this situation in the past couple days because he's not kyrie he's been making jokes he's been like yeah well he basically just said he likes the passion of philly fans which is basically all i need to hear that yeah yeah that you guys are like a dog that just needs to be pet yeah no that's it's that's very much the case but i don't know he's been making jokes that people have been asking him he's like he's like yeah i'm gonna get i'm gonna get crushed and i'm ready for it and it's gonna be funny and he's like that's philly fans though and i was like you're actually saying the right things which he's never done in his career so and but it sucks mb maxi harden and tobias harris playing, so it doesn't even matter.
But that is a good point because you would think – Tobias Harris maybe. You would think, like, give him credit for saying the right things, but he truly has never said the right thing.
Never, which is why I'm giving him – it's, like, shocking because he's saying all of the right things, and even Philly beat reporters are saying, like, I am shocked with the way that he's handling this. I wish he was like this he was in philly right yeah and he's like bad and and that's the other thing it's not like he just had one good game but he's having a horrible year and he's still approaching it with like a good head on his shoulder which is shocking it only took him like two and a half years to figure out how to how to handle the situation i think i have an old take that like if ben simmons could ever learn to shoot, he'd be a top five player in NBA history.
That one sucks. I still think that's a good take.
Yeah, I actually kind of think that's true. I still think that's a good take.
Because it's a big if. If you include also lay up and dunk in the shooting.
Yeah, yeah. Everything.
If he was an average shooter, he would be one of the best players in the NBA. He's incredible.
I saw him. He actually did drive to the basket.
I think he dunked the other night. It was shocking.
Yeah, he had one good game. It's weird.
It's still very strange to me watching Ben Simmons drive to the basket and then go up for a layup. Yeah.
I'm like, why is he doing that? He's Ben Simmons. It's also, we need to mention more often that Ben Simmons, to be an old guy take, if you can't make the tournament, you're never going to be good in the NBA.
Yeah. We should just start saying that again because I do like that old man take of like, How's this guy going number one? You can't make the tournament? Yeah.
Okay. Good hot seat, cool throwing, everyone.
Max, are you going to allow him to work on his free throws after the game? If he makes the request ahead of time, then sure, yeah. Yeah, if he goes through the proper channels.
If he goes through the proper the proper channels yes um all right so if you have to work on friday i would stop the show right after taylor twelman and chad kelly because we're going to talk about sunday's games and then you can leave yourself a little bit of pardon my take for your friday work which will suck and it will also thank you for your service if you're working on friday you're probably working in the food service and people are hungry or you're working maybe at a hospital. Or your boss just sucks.
Or your boss sucks and you have our permission to quit. We also have a great PMTV coming out on the YouTube channel Friday, so there's some bonus content there as well.
And Black Friday. And Black Friday.
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Okay. We now welcome on a very special guest.
You can find him on ESPN. You can follow him on Twitter at Taylor Twelman.
He is a former soccer pro played on team USA for the CONCACAF a lot of world cup qualifying he knows soccer in and out and we thought no one better to have on for a little world cup preview we like to do this thing where we do our previews after the events start we just did our nhl preview last week we still haven't done our yeah we still haven't done our nba preview so we're a couple days uh you know late but that's fine uh let's start though with what we watched usa versus wales i'm counting this as a usa win because penalties should count as half of a goal but tell us the guy who actually knows what he's watching what the hell happened and should we be discouraged uh it's debatable that i know what

i'm talking about but i will play the game um it should feel disappointing and here's why because before you take the field england beats iran 6-2 so now all of a sudden the tiebreaker which it always is in world cups is goal differential now it means that now it's going to come down to how badly england wales in the united states beat iran and so if you get three points against wales which after the first half guys they were fantastic it was an a-plus performance it was a plus from the lineup situation and what they did to then lose that three points and only to come away with a point It feels like a loss. It should feel like a loss.
And now it puts extra pressure on Black Friday against England and more importantly against Iran in that final group stage game. So I get what you're talking about.
And quite honestly, historically, your opinion is more factually based because any time the United States has either got a point or three points in the opening game, they've advanced. I just think this is a different one now because of the wrinkle of England winning 6-2 before you took the field.
Yeah, it was tough watching that second half out there, especially considering how we stepped up. A lot of people in the first half, we looked great.
We looked dominant. A lot of people, I think yourself included, pointing at some substitutions that should have been made in the second half.
I tend to agree. That's when you bring on Michael Bradley and he really dominates the midfield of the game and solidifies everything.
Why didn't they bring him on? I don't think Michael Bradley came into this game, although maybe we could have used him. I will say this, dude.

Two yellow bring him on um I don't think Michael Bradley came into this game although maybe we could have used him I will say this dude two yellow cards early on Seginio Dest Weston McKinney both players were injury question marks coming into it and so that's why at halftime I said wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute you're up a goal Wales is going to flip the script on you now you're going to have to be either more defensive or in an odd way, even though you're winning more attacking because of Wales having to chase the game. This is not the kind of game Wales wanted.
Wales wanted to get the first goal and then they could sit in because they went down a goal. They had to now change.
That's the most disappointing part of the game is that Wales changed and Greg Berhalter in the United States didn't. I would have probably brought on Giovanni Reina.
The fact he didn't play is questionable, but I even would have thought about bringing him on either at halftime or the 60th minute because this is the kind of game when it's opened up, he's got the quality to play in that spot. That's where I think the criticism rightfully, is going to be had for Greg Berhalter because I don't think he made any moves instead of sitting on the fence.
Right. I was joking about Michael Bradley.
I know you are. The Taylor Martinez of Nebraska.
He played for the United States national team for- He named searches too, just so you know. He does.
On Twitter. After every game.
Every game. I think he blocked me, actually.
I think so, too, because I just tweeted, like, hey, Michael Bradley, you're reading this right now. You stink in the last, like, four or five years ago, and then he blocked me.
I loved Michael Bradley. I always thought he was a great, solid player for us in, like, defensive midfield.
But I agree. Gio Reyna, why was he not even starting today? Some people would say that he should be part of the starting 11.
Yeah, it's it's a great question honestly because that's where i think the first time the united states men's national team have real quality in the debate of the 11 if not 14 15 players and and mind you your listeners are not going to know this just because it changed during covet but remember it used to be three subs it's now five guys And that leaves you a little bit more wiggle room to kind of change it, to kind of roll the dice a little bit. So to even not have Giovanni Reina in the five subs is interesting.
And listen, Greg Berhalter was looking at Brendan Aronson and Giovanni Reina and saying, we're going to save them for England and we're going to use them in the second half if we need them. the moment I go up a goal against Wales and I go back to my initial point to your first question guys is that England just won 6-2 I've got I've got three points in the bag I have to get three points that's where Giovanni Reina and Brendan Aaronson come in for me because Wales are going to chase the game they're older they're less athletic and now I bring on younger fresher legs great in open field great in open space that's where I think criticism rightfully so should be had of Greg Berlter because I don't think he played into the hands of the vulnerabilities of where Wales was defensively okay so I don't want to get too woke but I'm just going to ask this question uh let's say u.s does lose to england on friday and wales beats iran is there any world that wales and england basically are like well let's tie this game because these guys who pretend that they you know know soccer and everyone's been talking about how this is generation, if we tie this game, they're out no matter what.
Am I crazy? Am I crazy to even throw that out there? No, you're not crazy to think that through. And that is why the third group stage, final group stage games in all of World Cups now are played at the same time because historically that actually happened and if i'm not mistaken it was west germany versus someone else and so they were and i don't blame the teams for thinking that right the difference is though is that you now have gold differential at such an impact because england beat the absolute hell out of iran today that now it doesn't leave you enough room to sabotage that because a point may not be enough to get you through because now you may need to have goals scored and you've got to now make up for the goal differential.
If England won today 2-1 or 2-0, absolutely that's part of the equation because you know a point gets you through, but depending on what Wales does against Iran, I'm not sure they're going to have the luxury to do that. England, more than likely, if they beat the United States, that third final group stage game, they're going to rest players because they know they're going to get through.
It's where the other teams are going to be, but it's a real conversation, so you're not out of your mind to bring it up. I just think with these circumstances, with the result of that England-Iran game, I think it changes it.
But what you're saying is it could absolutely happen the reverse way where England could rest players and be like, hey, we're good. Wales could win.
Yeah, Wales could win. Absolutely, which is why you didn't want it in the final.
You'd never really want to rely on three points in the group final group stage game you're okay relying on a point but you're not fine in trying to have to in having to get three points and then goal differential and all that because of what you just said you hit the nail on the head so so are we calling friday's game against england a must draw for the united states absolutely yep because the last thing you want to do is win the lose that right? And honestly, you guys can look at it too right now, but before I came on with you, Vegas doesn't have England as huge favorites in this, even after winning 6-2, which tells you that the American player now versus years past, they're regularly playing against these guys in the Premier League. They're playing against them in Champions League.
And so even Gareth Southgate in his post-match press conference, they won 6-2 and he was already like, I don't like this U.S. team.
They can make us uncomfortable. So the U.S., they get a point against England.
Yes, they're in the driver's seat of getting out of the group. But if they lose that, dear Lord, that final game is going to be something else.
We did. We tied England back in 2010.
Yes, we did. Let's not underestimate the ability of England to defeat themselves in heartbreaking fashion and to let in the worst goal of all time.
That could happen again to them. Ask any English soccer fan.
This tends to occur during World Cup. So it's not out of the realm of possibility to tie, but it sounds like what it's going to come down to is just which team beats the hell out of Iran worse, right? Absolutely.
Absolutely. Now, in saying that, I could see Wales actually lay an egg against Iran, and then this becomes a very, very, very tricky situation.
I could see Iran. I know this sounds crazy because you guys are talking to me they lost six two they they beat uruguay in their final uh tune-up game before the world cup uruguay is one of the five or six teams that are listed as potential favorites right so it would not surprise me at all if wales and iran draw and then you're looking at a group going wow wales have have two points, Iran has one, and then the U.S., depending on what they have.
And again, it comes to that final group stage game, which, guys, 1998 is still thought of in Iran as the biggest win of their history. That was a group stage game they had no business winning or being a part of because they had already been knocked out of the group and they beat the United States, who then ended up finishing the 98 World Cup as the worst team in the World Cup.
Just think of that. So the geopolitical backing to that game, that will be the biggest game in Iran's history.
It doesn't matter what they do against Wales. If they come out and leave the World Cup, but hey, they can tip their cap and say, we beat the United States.
That makes their World Cup. That's why Greg Berhalter looks, I would say, disappointed because he now knows, guess what? We're going to have to get something out of that game.
Yeah. No, that is a factor that I definitely wasn't thinking about, but now I am.
A more general question, more general question. And this might be a dumb question.
You did mention that the U.S. has closed the gap in terms of talent.
Guys are now playing in Europe. A lot of our guys are playing in the high level, you know, top five leagues in Europe.
What is the difference between those best teams in the U.S. at this point? Because I've always thought, like, when I watch, and I don't know soccer very well, but for me it's always been, like, the first touch.
If you watch the MLS versus you watch, like, EPL, guys, you know, they'll pass it across the field and they'll have the ball on a string right on their foot. What is it now, though? Like, what's the difference? What's that last gap that we need to bridge to be at that level of, like, some of these unbelievable teams? Dude, it's a great question.
It's honestly the question that still drives every person in this sport and in this country, right? You're trying to bridge the gap because everything else America does and all the other sports, if they're not 1A, they're 1B. And so that's been the most difficult part.
It's interesting when you bring up MLS because I think it's less about first touch. I know what you're talking about, the technical aspect.
I think the speed of thought is something that is just a lot different at the highest of levels. Even Greg Berhalter and other MLS managers have brought that up when they go to the international stage.
Now, what's interesting is this World Cup, MLS is the fifth most represented league in the world in this World Cup, which tells you about the growth of the game. And yet there's still the gap you're talking about.
I would say this. England in the Premier League is playing at such a speed, both between the ears and at the feet, that other leagues even struggle to compete with that because the bottom tier teams in England can beat you on any given day.
In Germany, Bayern Munich is going to win their 11th straight title. Nobody competes with Bayern Munich.
Now, all the other teams beat each other up, so you could talk about parity there. But you follow where I'm going.
England is the best league in the world. Because from the first team to the last place team, they're playing at a speed.
They've got the biggest difference, I would say, to answer your question is, they don't have one Christian Pulisic and one Tyler Adams. They all have two or three.
Right. As the top team in the world, Dan, to answer your question, is that Brazil could have three teams in this World Cup, and I'd argue all three would get out of the group stage.
That's how deep they are in talent. The United States has finally got talent playing at the highest levels.
Now the difference is can you have 36 to 45 guys guys doing that and then it bridges the gap because if one player goes down the gap isn't as big if that makes any sense yeah so to put it in american terms you're you're basically talking about alabama how alabama's backups could could beat most teams in college football and if you have alabama playing cincinnati in a college football playoff it's about the fact that like the guys that are coming in off the bench are better than the guys that are starting for Cincinnati I mean the scout team for Georgia football team on the defensive side right now could probably start for any ACC team and I'm not yeah I'm being honest like yeah it's not an SEC bias it It's just a fact. Brazil, France, Argentina, to a certain extent, Germany maybe.
Guys, those guys have three or four players deep at a World Cup level at each position. And that's ultimately how you keep pushing the meter higher and higher.
And that's when you become arguably a favorite in these big tournaments. Yeah.
So it is kind of all doom and gloom right now. But we did get a point against Wales.
Yes, we did. It's better than we got a result, as they say.
And with this U.S. team, I do feel like they're so young that this feels like more of a preparation World Cup for them.
They need to get battle tested a little bit. And really four years from now, that's when they'll all be in their primes growing up together.
So I do feel like even if we don't advance past the group stage, obviously that's, that could be looked at as a failure, but at the same time, like we're so young that this never felt like it was going to be our world cup to really do any damage in to begin with. But all that said, how do we end up beating or tying England on Friday? What are, what are the keys to that game? How do we pull it off? Two things.
First off, very educated take by you. It's also why, and this is the most important thing I'm going to say to you guys, because for your listeners to understand what four years from now means, the last thing you want to do is bomb out of this World Cup because it makes more pressure on you in now being the host.
So that's the positive side. You got a point against Wales.
You're still in this World Cup, right? So this group is young, naive and inexperienced. Well, guess what? You need to get experience.
And I think it is invaluable to this team if they get any kind of experience of positive feedback in this World Cup, because then they're in their prime in 26. And now they're going to be in the driver's seat saying we could actually do something of real magnitude very educated take by you the second thing to answer your question about england is you have to be committed on how you want to play so if you want to counter-attack be committed in counter attacking in your defensive structure if you want to punch england in the face and try to outpossess them and and get after them a little bit sure you've got the quality to do that i think that's a little bit more risky but it doesn't matter be committed don't be in between yeah they're in between a little bit right yeah yes don't go back and forth in trying to figure out a way to play England.
If you are committed and you frustrate England, they don't have, especially if Harry Maguire plays, but I don't think he will because he got a concussion in the game today. But even if he does, there's some weak links within this English squad that you can expose.
However, there's so much quality in an open game, in a game where all of a sudden they've got a ton of the ball, they've got a ton of space, they're dictating the tempo of the game. That's not a game you want to go in and play against the Harry Canes and Sockers of the World.
I don't want to play that game, right? And I don't think Greg Berhalter wants to. If they're committed in the way they want to play, they can frustrate them.
And the other aspect is Timothy Way is a great example. They've got players that England would love to have.
England was desperate to get Yunus Musa. They recruited him.
They didn't get him. These are players the U.S.
have that even the English look across and they're like, wait a minute. It's not me on the other side, guys.
They're not looking across, seeing me going this is a cup of tea we've got this in the bag it's Giovanni Reina it's Eunice Musa it's Tyler Adams it's Brendan Aronson it's Josh Sargent it's players that England respects so now all of a sudden you've got that game a little bit where you're going to get their best so you got to be ready for it I think it's important for them to be very pragmatic how they approach the game. Don't get into a wide open game, especially in first 30 to 45 minutes, and see where you are at halftime and then adjust with substitutions and maybe tactics, which is something you didn't do against Wales.
But they've got a shot to surprise some people, but they don't want to get into that open game, in my opinion. Now, Taylor, I don't want want to put words in your mouth but you're kind of sounding like a bear halter out guy no i am a one that is very very what's this what's the word i'm looking for um i try it's a good question i try to take the red white and blue hat off analyzing games because i think the viewer and the listener honestly guys is more educated than when i played they've seen more high quality games they understand what real analysis is so if i'm not going to be if i can't create and by the way greg burr alter was a roommate of mine with the national team i played with him if i can't criticize him then i shouldn't be doing my job yeah i think greg Berhalter has done a good job on some levels,

but I've also been very critical of him on other levels,

and he's very young in his managerial career,

and I think you've seen some of that inexperience,

if that answers your question.

So talking about the whole World Cup, getting off U.S. for a second,

give us the winner, your pick to be the winner,

and maybe like a dark horse, because, you know, the betting markets are still open for futures and everything. This is Brazil's World Cup to lose, boys.
Yeah? It's Brazil's to lose. Yep.
I mean, now this might be a stupid question, but the way I always see Brazil is if we're going to do another analysis of college football, Brazil is like a big 12 offense that can score a million points but sometimes they play a little soft is that fair fair except with this group okay okay tell me yeah see what you're getting at and i know what you're getting at is the fact that namar dives a thousand times a game right so American viewer, we watch Brazil and we're like, why are they all rolling over the field? However, Neymar knows this is his World Cup. He's in his prime.
He's arguably playing better than Messi and anyone else in the world right now. And Brazil now has a manager that has pushed the right buttons to say,

these are my special players. These are my players that will clean it up, will make the games.
They're smarter. They're just smarter with where they are.
They have more talent than anyone. There's more professional players in the world than from Brazil.
They just manufacture players. It's their pastime.
It's what they do. However, they've never right found the balance to say,

we've got our quality, but we've also got our defenders.

We've got our, in football terms,

we've got our showcase wide receiver, quarterback, running back,

and skills players, but our offensive line, our defensive line,

our free safeties, and our linebackers may be our strongest suit I think their defenders outside are the weakest link and yet I say that I look at the roster I'm like well any other team in this world cup would take those guys as their fullbacks it's Brazil's to lose because it's played in hot weather they're used to it but more importantly I just think they're more balanced than they ever have but I don't think your analysis is that far off yeah soft is always a weird word for us three on this we know what soft means the world listener would say that's not soft that's just a little dramatic and us three would go well yeah that's what we said sometimes he looks like he stepped on a landmine yeah he just rolls and rolls and rolls and rolls the part that gets me is like theshock after they hit the ground, and then they bounce up again and flip over like a fish. That's always the funny.
And I've noticed that the women, they don't flop like the men do. No, they don't.
I don't know what the difference is, but guys, they have no shame. They'll just go out and just pretend that they got sniped.
I will never, ever, ever apologize for what that is because, honestly, it drives me nuts. You guys know me on Twitter enough, though.
I can't stand it when they say it's just a soccer thing. When the Sunday night football game I watched last night between the Chiefs and the Chargers, I've never seen more flop from offensive linemen.
Like, flopping's now become part of the NFL, the NBA, and the the nfl to get flags however our sport just makes it look so much worse like it's like do you need to roll 10 times and bounce up and then roll again and and then the cold spray in the water like i i can't defend it we're gonna get back to taylor twelman in a second but before we do he's brought to you by hooters our favorite place to go watch any sport especially soccer during the world cup is hooters they seriously do have the best wings a great selection of beer and great hospitality and alpha males and who doesn't love the iconic hooters girls they're always so friendly and you really don't get that anywhere else what goes best with soccer with the world cup it's wings It's wings. Wings go with soccer.
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There was an interesting tweet that SportsCenter put out earlier this week. I don't know if you had a chance to take a look at it.
Oh, I did. All right, buddy.
Yeah, you know where I'm going with this. What if American sports stars played on the U.S.
men's national team? So they had a picture of, it was a great Photoshop, Mookie Betts, Mike Trout, Patrick Kane, Odell Beckham,

Steph Curry, Saquon Barkley, Patrick Mahomes,

Austin Matthews, Kevin Durant, Bam Adebayo, and LeBron James.

You've got to put Giannis in goal, though.

Well, he's probably going to play for Greece.

No, I know that was a joke.

That's fair.

Which one of these guys do you think would be the absolute worst soccer player

because it's tough i would say maybe austin matthews like a hockey player or mike trout mike trout would be a baseball guys would have a tough time because you got to run more than like 50 feet you know what i mean yeah you know like like mike trout's a hell of a baseball player It was one of the top five, ten we've ever seen.

I get all that.

Fine.

But, dude, you got to run.

And I played baseball, right? So, like, it's not foul pole to foul pole and then have a Gatorade and a bag of sunflower seeds. Like, I think that tweet was just so disrespectful.
And it was, listen, they deleted it. I know the people that put it out there.
But, like really basically saying like what if usain bolt played soccer like is it really like what are we what are we really talking about nice you know what it was we just got a natural what are we doing here yeah no can you run that back what are we doing here guys it was you know what it was and and i i'll say that i i do like to troll soccer i'll i'll admit that because i i saw the tweet and I sent it to one of my best friends who's a huge soccer fan, and he rolled his eyes because I will do that hypothetical with him just to fuck with him. But I understand that's a hypothetical from 15 years ago.
I think people now understand. I understand the skill level and the fact that the reason why a lot of these countries are so good at soccer is they have their kids playing when they're three years old and that like that type of skill is not something that just because you're an athlete you can do so I I actually laughed at it because I was like what year are we in right now we have evolved.
Exactly. And that goes back to my point five minutes ago.
Like, the viewers, they're more knowledgeable now, right? And if we did everything the American way, the Spain teams that were the greatest teams ever that won everything, they didn't have a single player over 5'10". I say that tongue-in-cheek, but we think bigger, faster, stronger means, oh, great, you're going to be the best soccer player.
No worry. That's not how this works.
So that's where you just looked at it and you're like, no. But I enjoy playing the game of which one of those hypothetical athletes would have been put on the soccer field, looked around after two minutes and said, I don't want to do this.
Yeah. Probably Mike Trout.
Yeah, Mike Trout, for sure. Mike Trout would have been like, I am out.
Well, also, if he was in the World Cup, he'd be like, is this the playoffs? What the hell? I've never been here. No, he'd be like, if you really want to make sure you don't get out of the group stage, put Mike Trout on your team.
Yeah, like, hey, the Eagles have a Sunday night football game against the Packers. Why am I in Qatar? I've got a great question for you here.
You're going to love this one. If Messi doesn't win a World Cup, is it safe to say that he is the biggest all-time bust? Ooh, that's such a good one.
No. It's a real good one because that's what we do here in the United States.
And quite honestly, I love being part of this. Overrated.
Messi's overrated if he doesn't individually win a World Cup for Argentina this year. I don't think so.
Are you a Messi or Ronaldo guy? I'm a Messi fan mainly because I've never seen anything like it in my life. Yes.
Yes. Right? So Ronaldo, who's done unbelievable things, but it's all based on athleticism, right? And he is one of the best athletes I've ever seen.
But I played against Messi in 2007 and I described this to everybody. You know when it's a late summer afternoon, the sun's going down and there's water bugs and you're like, that thing's going on top of the water and the lake and you can't see it.
You literally can't. Messi's the smallest human being on the soccer field and you can't catch him.
And we're talking about the best players in the world and they leave the field after playing Messi and they're looking around going, what the hell is that? He's an alien. No one's ever seen anything like that.
Is he a failure? No, I'd argue Argentina's a failure because you were just given the greatest player in the history of the sport and you couldn't find a competent enough team to deliver the World Cup around them. But not one player can deliver a World Cup.
And everyone listening to this will say Pelé and Maradona and all that. No, no, no.
You guys want you didn't you don't know what that brazilian

teams were like with playing on that argentina in 2014 got to a world cup final mainly because of messi yeah this year if they get to a world cup final it's their best opportunity to win because they're more balanced but i i'm not one to sit on the fence he's not a bust if he doesn't when he says, I think that's, that's fair. He also like the way I, and we,

another tongue in cheek thing we do we always find like if you're trying to get into any sport just figure out what the goat debate is and you can just mainline into it but watching and Ronaldo is obviously incredible but just watching Messi it beautiful. Whereas Ronaldo, it's more like power and strength and sheer force of will.
Are you guys Steph Curry fans? Yeah, it's kind of Steph Curry and LeBron. I mean, it is a little bit like that where it's like just something about Messi and when he's, you know, kicking, you know, when he's scoring goals from like 30 feet away and he's just making passes and it's something else.
So Argentina is another one that's a favorite. Give us a team that you have your eye on that's maybe not one of the favorites that you're like, hey, this team has the horses that if they get some favorable matchups, they could shock the world.
So it all depends on how you can consider a dark horse, right?

Because I look at anything plus a thousand or more as a dark horse.

I don't know how you guys look at your gambling lines and whatnot.

That's fair.

Right?

I would say the Dutch are very interesting.

Netherlands is interesting.

They've got a real good understanding with their older manager

and Louis van Hall, and they're at a real good number right they were before the tournament started um that that's the kind of dark horse i look at the way the brackets have laid out guys this is a chalk type of tournament it just is there's not going to be a ton of the way the groups played out There's not going to be a ton of, I think, surprises in the sense

when you get to the quarterfinal.

I do think our neighbors above us, Canada, could really surprise some people

because I think Belgium is hanging on to a generation of players

that they're not playing at a good enough level of where they were.

So Canada could surprise teams.

Are they going to surprise teams to get to the semifinal?

That would be as good as Leicester City went in the Premier League.

Thank you. at a good enough level of where they were so canada could surprise teams you know are they going to surprise teams to get to the semi-final that would be as good as leicester city when in the premier league quite honestly but i look at those future bets dan and i would say netherlands is the one because the bets were that the odds were good enough where you would have got a real payday if you took them before the tournament started that would be so-called the dark horse but look at look at the history of the world cup guys how many different countries have won that is very few there's very few surprising teams that get all the way to the end and win this thing yeah it is true when you look at it it is like oh shit this is this is basically like college football where it's like it's the bcs it's literally the same before they got to the college playoff.
So, yeah, before the tournament, I got Netherlands at plus 1,100. And Germany, I was surprised to see they were plus 1,000.
So do they have a chance? They do. This is the worst, I would say, collection of centerbacks and defenders they've had in a long, long time.
I think that's going to be their Achilles heel. If they win it, they're going to be the most exciting team.
And to double down on your bet, I would take total goals for Germany in the over because the only way they're going to win this thing is outscoring teams 3-1, 3-2, 4-1, 4-2. You know what I'm saying? So no matter how you slice it, I think they're going to have to outscore teams.
I actually like the total goals bet for Germany more than them winning it. But they do have a shot because they're Germany.
And quite honestly, Germany, for whatever reason, when big tournaments come around, they very rarely shoot themselves in the foot. Yeah, and what about France? Because France, I think it's a storyline that every year the defending champs struggle to defend their crown.
So France obviously won in 2018. They've had some injuries.
Are they – because it felt like there's something about – I just love the talk about golden generations. Yes.
When Belgium had their golden generation and it was like, oh, man, look, all these guys are the same age. And France had a little of that with the 2018.
I would assume they're still very, very good good but are we thinking they're like it's just going to be the same story that every team that's defending their crown struggles yes they've got so many injuries my man they've got so many injuries however they're arguably a deeper team than brazil the only difference is the french are gonna french they get in get in their way. If one thing goes wrong, they hate each other.
There's in-house fighting. Everything's got to be perfect for the French to operate and to play at a high level.
They've got more depth than anyone in this present time. And you're talking to me on November 21st in 2022 around the world.
They are probably more deep than Brazil, but the brazilians like playing with each other the brazilians get along all the time i mean the french literally have players go to court over sex tapes regarding teammates like you see what i'm getting at they are gonna get after each other they've got a ton of injuries they know for a fact their manager after this World Cup. I'd be stunned.
I'd be stunned if they don't shoot themselves in the foot. However, they've got enough talent to override some of their personality things.
They're just a bad vibes team. They're very bad vibes.
They're like calling witch doctors on each other. There's a whole thing going on.
Right when you think that the French can't get any more French during the World Cup, they find a way to one-up themselves.

I remember back, it was like

2006, their manager then,

he was starting and sitting

players based on their astrology

charts before games. I think

he was like sitting Trezeguet because

his moon wasn't in the right sector

or whatever it was. Who's the manager

this time that you think actually

makes a difference

in a positive way? Who's the best

manager of any of these teams

that we're going to do. or whatever it was.
Who's the manager this time that you think actually makes a difference in a positive way? Who's the best manager of any of these teams in the World Cup this year? That's an interesting question. The way you put that question has me thinking there's five subs, and I was very critical of Greg Berhalter early on, right? And you have this way to manage it.
Honestly, I think the managers that manage off the field are actually more impactful because in this tournament, you guys have tweeted this because I follow both of you. There's so many games within this short congestion of schedule from club teams to then having a World Cup in the wintertime.
I think the best managers are going to be the ones that manage energy manage enthusiasm manage where you guys are just with how to keep the group together and so naturally i go back to didier dechamp with france he may have his most important job maybe it doesn't matter what team he puts on the field are they are they not fighting like that may be a win for the french i think tt with brazil i think he's already got his finger on the pulse that's going to be easy louis van gall as i talked about i think diego alonso is an interesting one for uruguay because three days before their opening game he comes out and says no we're here to win it i mean that's a little ballsy if you ask me right like I get it no one's there to not win it but like he came out right away said no we're not here to mess around those are the managers that that I think are going to have the biggest impact but I actually think it's more off the field than it is on the field because this is such a odd time to have a world cup and the players are mentally and physically exhausted. Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, that's a good answer. So speaking about that, we know it's hot.
How much does that actually zap you? And how much is it not even in the game, but the turnaround? Because these games are, what, four days in between? Is it truly you don't feel right for a few days because we you know we talk to football players all the time you talk to a running back like oh yeah your knees are creaky you can barely walk on monday what is that like for a soccer player it's a great question because and i'm gonna ask you guys a question to answer that have you ever been to houston in the summer yeah it sucks terrible and just remove summer from there seven now try and run seven miles in the middle of that heat representing your country it's just it's it you can't prep yourself you can do the most under your control to try to prepare for that moment when i did the u.s portugal game in manaus in 2014 in bra, the humidity, if it was allowed was over a hundred percent, it was at eight o'clock at night and the temperature was 98 and it felt like 118. And you got to run a marathon.
You got to run, you got to run eight miles in that at a high speed, which is identical to basically run in a 26 mile marathon at a real generous pace, guys, it's physically taxing. It's not impossible, but it also means you can't have one player play every minute of every game, right? And so that's the way I would describe it.
And then you couple that after a club season where they've been playing a game every three days. Honestly, I don't know how to answer your question.
I don't know how to quantify how difficult it is because the sports scientists around the world that are talking about it say, this is something that's unprecedented. They've never seen it.
Yeah. Yeah.
The, um, it, it is, it is nuts to think about that heat. I mean, you said seven miles and I already was checked out cause I couldn't run that in the ideal conditions.
So that part I'm already out on. In terms of the end of games of World Cup, this is my gripe.
I do actually enjoy watching soccer. I've learned, like, if you asked me 10 years ago, I'd be like, stupid sport.
The more I've learned about it, the more I've understood how the game's played and also just understanding what Champions League is, has made it a lot more enjoyable. The one part that I cannot stand, and I will never stand, is the last 15 minutes wasting time.
When you bring on the subs, when you sit in the corner, when you roll around on the ground, when you walk to a free kick, when you walk to a throw-in, you're a soccer guy through and through. Are just as frustrated as I am or is it like people will say oh well it's no different than a team running the ball in the fourth quarter it's like no but the you're still like you still have to get first downs you still have to like there's still a game against the clock I just cannot stand the last 15 minutes it was you know what it was it was the France Croatia final I like France the last 20 minutes they didn't even play the game so tell me I'm am I being stupid or is it just part of the sport I gotta understand no you're not being stupid at all would I use that as let me what I would that be my biggest reason to never watch the sport no no of course not you you know better than anyone.
The SEC college football fan will always use those crutches for what it is, yet you've spent the last 10 years watching it and you guys now like it and you understand it more and it still bothers you. By the way, it bothers me.
I don't understand it. It's different than running the ball.
You're still playing within the rules of the game. Now the stocker player in me says there's it's in the rules now i think there's a real quick way to fix this and get rid of it in two seconds imagine getting a red card the moment this happens just imagine yeah imagine fifa and the officials all of a sudden saying you know what we're actually done with this subs of the game, right? So I can't change subs and you want to change subs, fine.
But the game management, the waiting to take a goal kick, the tying the shoes on all of that, what if they just started to cut down on it? And maybe you start with yellow cards in major tournaments because the second and third yellow, you're now suspended. It would change in two seconds the problem is fifa doesn't want to take their hands out of you know what and actually do something because the truth of the matter is that means they actually have to be the governing body by which they are and actually tell other countries what to do the other aspect to this is that it is difficult on how to view a game one way and tell another country how to view a game another.
Here's what I mean by that. If us three did a podcast right now with a referee from England and a referee from Argentina, guys, we would get 180 degrees difference of answers of what's more important, how the game should be viewed.
And that's why I think it gets frustrating to people like yourself because it's not universally looked at the same way when majority of all of us can look at American gridiron football and look at it the same way and officiate it arguably the same way. You see what I'm saying? Like, yeah, it's very difficult to try to find a middle ground because the South American and the Western European, honestly, they look at the game as if it's apples to oranges, and it's still the same 90-minute game.
Right. Yeah.
It's also asking a lot of a referee to immediately diagnose what's a fake injury and what's real. Sometimes you can do it.
Sometimes it's very obvious to do, but other times, I mean, it's tough for them to say, okay, that's a clear embellishment or that's a clear flop. That's a little bit easier, but when you see a guy rolling around in pain, it's tough.
It takes some balls for the referee to be like, you're faking it, red card. Yeah.
No, it's true. It does, which is probably why the more I think about it, which is probably why I'm okay with the yellow to start it off

to see if it goes anywhere.

I just think there's a lot of time wasting now in the sport

where I think it can be controlled and managed differently.

But you're right.

If you give a red card, that's too harsh.

But you know what I'm trying to say?

I know, I get it, yeah.

Maybe a little bit more accountability from the governing body and the official in the moment and say, wait a minute, knock it off with the nonsense. And all it takes, honestly, guys, is one.
Yeah. All it takes is one because then the message is sent going, whoa, whoa, whoa, what was that? And then FIFA backs up the official and says, we're done with that, the shenanigans that you're trying to get away with but this is also an organization that gave the world cup to guitar for yeah yeah play 100 million in cash yeah we don't know about that guitar is a great country he's going he's going tomorrow so please don't say anything bad no i i actually forgot i was going for a second but uh the job that the emir has done over there and his father to present the world's game wonderful people it's just incredible job that they've done moving their country into the 21st century and you know with style and with grace yeah so you can't say enough good things about those guys over there i'm very happy with what they've done i got nothing for him he's got he's got it listen when he comes back we can say what we want want to say, but right now.
Absolutely. When he comes back, we will 100% have that conversation.
I'm not backing that one up.

We will discuss it. PFT needs to come home.
I will come home. It's coming home.
Yeah.

From your perspective, who are the greatest U.S. soccer players of all time? Mount Rushmore.

Emergency Mount Rushmore. Four of them.
Wow. Good one.
Naturally, Landon out of in Clint Dempsey. Freddie Adu.
Yeah, Freddie Adu's not on there. Freddie Adu for sure.
Okay, all right. I'm not putting myself on there, right? Because you guys don't know me that well.
But naturally, if it doesn't involve me, I don't really give a shit. Yeah, you can put yourself on there.
So you can put yourself on there so taylor twald actually no i'm the bus driver to get you to mount rushmore okay usr so that's perfect i would say landon donovan clint dempsey there's got to be a goalie on there because we've had so many great goalies that's an interesting one i'm going to be recent i'm going to give a little bit of a recent bias even though casey keller and brad frieda were in tony miola i'll i'll say tim howard yeah yeah okay and then can i leave the fourth one blank and tell you in about five six years because i think it's coming from this generation i like that that's a good take it's like to be determined but you know that i do. You know, I think Christian Pulisic is going to have something to say.
I think Giovanni Reina could outlast and outdo his father, which, by the way, would be an amazing story in itself because Claudia Reina was one of the best players this country's ever produced. I would leave the fourth one open because I think we're embarking on a new era where it's like wait a minute this is something special

okay I like that

alright so Taylor I have one last question

this has been awesome we're going to maybe need you back

for the World Cup final

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this is kind of a difficult question

but I've listened

Thank you. I've followed you for a very long time.
I've heard you on some interviews, and I always thought that you had, like, a great outlook. So for people who don't know, you were part of the U.S.
team, but you were left off the World Cup roster. When that happened, I mean, that's something that most people,

I would count myself in this, would be bitter for life.

Like, how did that all break down, and how are you able to look at it and not be just angry all the time about it?

That's a great man.

Now you're putting me on the spot.

Yeah, I'm sorry.

I've heard you talk about it, and I've always always been like i've always just respected your take on everything yeah i'm not gonna say it's the easiest way to look at it i'm more like you where i like i really wanted it to be there my grandfather passed away 48 hours after that decision jesus um and my family and my grandfather's said at the time first off, I was MVP of the league. I am technically an answer to the trivia question is who is the leading goal scorer for a calendar year and not go to the World Cup? Wow.
It was me in 2006. I didn't go to the World Cup and still led the U.S.
men's national team in goals scored. That gives me solace that guess what? I did the best I could.
I did the most I could. So it was his decision and he didn't want to bring me.
So there it is. The toughest part about the entire thing was this.
30 players were named to a roster. 23 wins.
The seven players that were left on the substit substitutes bench for lack of a better word or the practice squad yeah right six of the seven got a phone call or an email i didn't i had to watch it with my family live and stewart scott asked bruce arena the first question he asked was mls mvLS MVP Taylor Twelman's not on the roster and Bruce Arena didn't answer the question. And so that is when in the moment I said, you know what? Whoa, wait a minute.
I had four players from that team. The moment Dave saw the news, told me and basically say, why am I going and you're you're not none i'm telling you all of that to give you background on that told me i did the most i did the best i could yeah i literally did the best i could because if i wasn't good enough if i didn't deliver if i didn't deserve it none of my teammates would have called me and given me that answer yeah they would have called me, and you guys know this, they would have given me a different answer and been like, oh man, I'm sorry.
They literally called pissed off. They called like, what the, the assistant coach, he's passed away now.
He literally called my dad and apologized. So I give that background to your listeners because in life, when you know you gave it 100%, there really are no regrets.
If there's any inkling of, oh, I should have done this or I didn't this, that's where bitterness kind of takes over. And when my grandfather passed away literally 48 hours, and he's the one that won a World Series with the Yankees and played in major league baseball for 11 years my entire mom's side of the family is celebrating this man's life and I am on ESPN the day before their funeral playing an MLS game where the 30,000 people at Gillette Stadium had a huge sign why not Taylor and I was like this is wait this isn't about me This is a celebration of my family.
So honestly, it put it in perspective for me. I'm not going to lie and look into this camera and tell you guys that I still don't think about it.
Because my biggest regret is not wearing the red, white, and blue and honestly running through the wall and getting one of my seven concussions playing with the U.S. in a World Cup that ended my career.
I think about that all the time. I watch the game today thinking, did I really not go? On the other hand, it happens.
Dude, shit happens. And the best part that I can say is I can look in the camera, look you, and look everyone in the mirror and say, guess what? I did it.
I did the best I could. I scored a ton of goals.
And the manager that given day was like, you know what? I don't want him to be part of the team. I've got to find a way to live with that.
And fortunately enough, I've got enough grace to understand it, but I ain't going to lie to you guys. You know me well enough.
It's not easy. But it is what it is, and we've got to move on.
i have actually in a weird way i have even though i just rambled for 10 minutes about the background but i think the listeners would appreciate that it was a great answer and it's why i asked the question because i knew like your perspective on it and it's it's just a great lesson for people to listen to because there's a lot of people who play woe is me and and always become the victim and it And it's like, that's just not the, you can't let me ask you guys, you guys do this in life. We got to hear the word no more.
Yeah. We fail more.
Yeah. Yeah.
I don't hear no. You're not, you're not pushing hard enough.
Yeah. Yeah.
Like I just feel like in my failures, I've learned way more about myself. And I tell everyone this.
Everyone says adversity builds character. Shit.
Shit. Adversity reveals character.
Because if you say adversity builds character, guess what that means? All of us started at ground zero and we've got no character? Yeah. Like, miss me with that.
We've all got character character. It's when it hits the fan, you got to be like, who am I? Who am I going to be the guy? I'll talk about it with people, but I don't go to bed at night with a bitter part of my body.
Cause like I just said to you, it happens. I'm unfortunately one of those guys.
I'm going to own my story. I'm going to tell that story because I think it gives perspective to some people that are struggling but i feel like our generations now guys we hear no or we hear constructive criticism and everybody's all out of whack like oh my god this is wrong wrong and the teacher's wrong and the coach is wrong it's like are they yeah i don't know it's it's it's great and uh i'll say it for you fuck bruce sabrina um i'll just say that for you uh yep yeah you you'll say it too right fuck bruce arena yeah fuck bruce arena he's a great coach great college coach yeah but fuck also 2000 oh come on guys he's had a hell of a career no he's he's he's he's a bum he's he's a crumb bum oliver khan ate his lunch in 2002.
He's a crumb bum. But no, I really do appreciate you telling that because it is a great message.
And it's something that, you know, like when I listen to you on ESPN or I follow you on Twitter, like knowing the backstory, it's like this guy's not just, you know, talking out of his ass. He played it.
He went he went through adversity he did all these things like it just adds a lot more flavor to your analysis did it feel good in 2006 a little bit when uh we didn't get a single win oh man that's that's that no it actually and i'm telling you no i not even a little bit i don't know if i watched the games oh i wouldn't yeah i don't know if i watched them i may have been in the room i may have been with my teammates and at the new england revolution i'm not totally sure i watched that game i think i put myself in such a space that i wasn't present and when we didn't get out the group, we struggled to score goals. I honestly could not taste food.
I couldn't feel anything. It made it worse to me because I know, and I don't care what anyone tries to tell me, I would have added something to that group.
I would have done something to that group, even being on the field or running through a wall or doing something to energize the group, to give them something. Because in that moment, I was on the verge of going to England.
I was on the verge of doing – guys, people don't know this. Kicker Magazine in Germany listed 10 players to break out the World Cup.
I was number nine. I didn't go.
That's crazy. Holy shit.
Just that. Right? So like – but then you look around the world.
There was number nine i didn't go that's crazy holy shit that right so like but then you look around the world there was a great goal scorer for byron munich named roy mckay that played for the dutch he got left off the world cup team jayden sand like look at their people that got left off the world cup teams this year landon donovan in 2014 felt the same thing i just i didn't i don't know if I watched the games in 06 to go back to your question. I just don't know if I really watched them.
Well, you probably also didn't watch them because soccer is super boring and terrible. So boring.
And who wants to watch that sport? Someone was diving and rolling all over. That would be funny if you were just like, fuck this.
I'm watching baseball, which is like way more boring, but whatever. whatever i got one last last question for you uh and we'll put it in like hockey terms because whenever we start the playoffs in hockey it's always like which goaltender is going to stand on his head so which goalkeeper i know a cho is playing for mexico and he's got a pretty he's like well established as being one of the GOATs.
But he's also old. So which one of these – which goalkeeper is the one that's like most likely to make their team punch above their pay grade? That is such a good question because, honestly, they can single-handedly change.
They can change it. And so it's really – honestly, I haven't even thought about it because one, I'm a center forward and I hate goalies.
Two, more importantly, you don't really think of it in the terms that you just did. And yet in a knockout style tournament, it is very similar to the Stanley cup where a goalie stands on his head and that goaltender can single-handedly take you in.
I mean, look at the New York Rangers last year, quite honestly. Um, yep.
Wow. That's a real good one.
I would say the most put it this way. I'm going to answer your question.
Cause I know a lot of your listeners are going to think on the betting and the gambling side, fantasy side, what it may be in the way Germany is set up. I think Manuel Neuer may have to have his best world cup or best knockout style tournament he's ever had in his career.
And he's had an unbelievable career already. But I think this one, he may have to be at his best if Germany want to win it.
And so that's the one I look at because naturally I think of like Jordan Pickford. I think of Hugo Lloris.
I think of Tibor Courtois. And then even Allison.
I think of all of them. But I think Neuer may have to stand on his head the most because I'm most nervous about Germany's defensive, I think, fragilities, for lack of a better word.
And so I would say Neuer, of all of them, may have to be at his best, which sounds so weird considering he's already won a World Cup. But I think this one, he may need to be better than he was in 14.
All right. I just always go back to that 2002 team that the U.S.
had when Oliver Kahn just single-handedly, basically, we were going to make it to the semifinals. Hold on, hold on.
If there was four back then, Germany would have lost that game. Yep, that's true because Bollock had the handball on the goal line.
Yep, because Torsten Frings had the handball. And Bollock, who, by the way, every time I see him, I remind him of this, he's arguing, no, if VAR was there, that's a penalty and a red card.
Yep, and one of our best, well, he was like an attacking fullback at that time, was named Big Cat, Tony Santa. Yeah, great yep i know uh yep that's awesome let's let's go you guys want to go through when my dog died too or uh taylor thank you so much we definitely have to have you back on for the world cup final uh we appreciate you joining us it's been an awesome interview man and uh everyone go check go follow him on twitter and and see him on espn breaking down the world cup big fan of you guys but more importantly i love the fact that you guys embraced this sport and it makes you guys even more compelling to listen to because you're real and you're honest and i appreciate that so be good we were just fucking with you this whole interview i know you guys hate it don't tell anyone don't tell anyone actually didn actually didn't record it at all.
You didn't record it, so now your credibility won't be hurt. Yeah, we just want the information.
So yeah, thanks for that. We're just trying to keep you off the air so there's less soccer being discussed elsewhere.
Thanks, Taylor. I hope to talk to you after the end of the World Cup, if you know what I mean.
Yeah, I'll be back. I'll definitely be back from my whirlwind vacation.
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And, here is Swag Kelly. And now for something completely different.
Okay, it's time for one question with the quarterback, and we welcome on a champion, the most recent champion that can be crowned. It is Chad Kelly, Swag Kelly, from the Toronto Argonauts.
They just won the Grey Cup on Sunday night.

Chad Kelly came in off the bench, led them to a game-winning drive,

all-time moment, incredible game.

One question with the quarterback.

Thank you for coming on, Chad.

Let's start with this.

How many beers are you able to drink out of the Grey Cup trophy?

How many can we fit?

There's enough for at least like four or five for sure.

For sure.

I can't ask a follow-up question, but that sucks because I –

Yeah.

So this is how one question goes.

That's a good answer.

There's no follow-up.

I phrased it wrong.

Swag, big fan.

PFT comments are part of my take.

How many quarterbacks in the NFL right now do you think that you could start over? 50%. I was going to say higher, but you're a modest guy.
50%? That's what it is. Okay, wait.
Yeah. Okay.
You're saying something? I just think this is what I think. think obviously there's a lot of off the field stuff right we all know about it it's all been publicized you know you stick a camera in a kid's face at age eight years old and give him give him his own day you know that's that's predominantly what's going to happen is that the light's going to shine a little brighter when it's good or bad right but i think people think people mistaken my on-the-field capabilities of thinking clearly, right, because they see that I do some dumb things off the field.
So I think that with me saying 50%, I feel like I know the game a lot more than a lot of people because I started at such a young age, and that's all I knew. In order to make it in life, I thought it was just to play in the NFL, really not even playing college.
It was to play for the Buffalo Bills or someone. That was the main focus my whole life.
Okay. All right.
I was going to say, should I just list? Should I just start listing? Because that's not a question. If I started listing quarterbacks, you just say stop? We can list teams.
No, well, let's just say Patrick Mahomes, Justin Herbert, Tom Brady, tom brady aaron rogers jalen hurts lamar jackson pause after aaron rogers baller yeah russell wilson these aren't questions by the way russell wilson uh derrick carr derrick carr oh okay there we go we have our answer all right all right there we go i like that go. I like that.
This is the thing. This is the thing, all right?

I watched all their games.

He's only thrown one big dig, right?

One big end.

That's what we call it, right?

You clear it out.

You fill the dig behind it, right?

If you can only do that one time in six, seven games,

I don't know how you're supposed to say you're an NFL quarterback right now.

Yeah, that's a good point.

Yeah, Kyler Murray.

How are you going to put in a guy in a contract and say, hey, you got to watch this amount of film? I don't get it. Yeah, they would never do that to your contract, Swag.
Nope. Facts.
Facts. Champion.
All right, Billy, go ahead. Hey, Chad, what's up? Thanks for coming on.
Hey, I owe you a jersey. I owe you guys a jersey.
I have four or five sitting at home. Hell yeah.
Put it up on the wall. I got you.
I rocked a Chad Kelly jersey all through college at Darty's. It was pretty awesome.
And he also was wearing your jersey during the Grey Cup final on Sunday. I'll attest to that.
I was sitting right next to him watching every play. Chad, what was the biggest hurdle when adapting to CFL football from the American game? Because I was watching it.
It's pretty complicated. What was the hardest part as a quarterback adapting to that new style? So y'all remember when Sam Donald said he was seeing ghosts against the Patriots, what was it, two, three years ago? Yeah.
Was it Monday night or Sunday night? You know what they were playing? They were playing cover zero, right? And he goes, man, I'm seeing ghosts. I'm seeing like there's an extra guy out there.
Yeah, because they're blitzing, right? They're blitzing the shit out of you. It's all cover zero.

It's man-to-man everywhere across the board.

You've got to get the ball out to your heart as fast as you can or, you know, take an extra two, three steps back there

and let it go down the field.

That's really the biggest thing in a CFL.

You see so much cover zero, right, where there's 12 guys,

obviously, on the field because there's one more.

But I'm saying there is everybody is blitzing and it's man-to-man. And now these other teams you're running 10 yards past past the line of scrimmage before the ball snap and it's that's full speed but the dvs are taught to sit flat footed about like eight yards so you know i think that's the biggest adjustment to myself is just seeing cover zero so much like the game that i started three weeks ago they ran it 19 times out of 57 plays that That's a ton.
You do not see that normally. So, you know, when I got out there the other day, they ran cover zero against me.
I threw the quick shallow. And, yeah, we had a punt, but that was what I was taught to do.
So then when we go down to the next drive, when we scored, they played cover because they're like, all right, he already knows the protections. He knows where his hot is.
We're good. So, you know, just take an extra step.
Take off a run. Love it.
Yeah, I saw that big run. I was sick.
You got – it was like a 15, 20-yard run just putting your foot in the ground and just being like, fuck it, I got this. It was awesome.
This is not a question, but it sounds like Chad Kelly has a photographic memory. Yeah, I'd say so.
Sean McVay light. Yeah, that's what it sounds like to me.
People are saying it. Sounds like he's got tremendous recall.
Yeah, people are saying it. Okay, Jake.
Hey, Chad, Jake Marsh, part of my Take Podcast. What is an Argonaut? It is a Greek goddess from a long time ago.
1873, though. Can you believe this is how it started, man? It started on the water over here, beautiful, on Lake Ontario.
And so it was a rowing club but they were like man we need to do something fun during the summertime so guys just started playing football and rugby essentially and obviously there's rugby-ish rules where you know you can take off and run 15 yards past the line of scrimmage punt it and then whoever just punted it or is behind the ball you can go and pick it up and score. I love it.
That's a great history lesson.

The CFL has some cool rules.

I'm a Swag Kelly guy right now.

We got to have you.

We were saying it before we started, and this is not a question.

You train in New Jersey, so you're going to come in for a full interview.

You're coming in for the full Swag Kelly untapped acoustic set.

We might just do like two hours.

Yeah, so be ready. Bring in like bring bring it like a nutrigame bar or something uh hank your question what's up chad uh henry lockwood part of my take barstle sports we can't all do this it's jake's thing i stole it from jake by mistake today yeah i should have done it i'm just trying to okay all right give him some context on who I am.
Hank's the guy who never gets the lottery ball machine.

Anyway, Chad, I'm just curious.

What's the number one song in the Chad Kelly music playlist right now?

What have you been bumping the most recently?

Man, NBA Youngboy, Pop Out.

I mean, NBA Youngboy, Hot Boy, you know.

What was going on?

Actually, before the game, though, I was on Black Youngstown.

Okay.

Okay.

Love that.

And that was like some serious, you know, not going to lie,

that's some gangster music right there straight from Memphis.

I like it.

I was on some demon time to wake up in the morning.

Yes.

I love it.

Fuck yes.

Demon time to win the Grey Cup. Max, so this is the last question from us and then you get a question.
I just want to know how many beers you personally drank out of the cup. That's a great follow-up question.
Out of the cup? I think only like two or three. That's good.
But you have to have at least a couple. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
Hey, so let me tell you all this. I didn't even get to celebrate with the team for 15, 20 minutes after the game.
You want to know why? Because they wanted a drug test. What? Like PEDs? Yes.
I played 10 snaps and they drug tested. That's a reputation call.
That's bullshit. That's not random.
That's not random, guys. That's not random.
No, no, no. Swag.
That is not is not i told the guy that was testing i said i'm about i'm gonna tweet about this he's like oh man don't do that don't do that what do you mean you're gonna tweet about it like while he was holding your dick you're gonna tweet this ain't random baby this ain't random all right so swag your question to us. Uh, I don't have any, man.
Y'all are just funny. I watch y'all all the time.
The boys love you. And it's always love, man.
I know back in the day, we're like, ah, we like these guys. Do we not? No, we like guys.
So it's all good. We listen.
I appreciate y'all. We bust balls.
We might say some shit, but, uh, it is all love. And want you to come into studio and let's do the whole interview because it would be – I think people would really enjoy it and in-person would be great.
And congrats again, man. You know, awesome achievement.
I appreciate you guys, man. Y'all are fun to listen to.
Yeah, you won't find any bigger Swag Kelly fans than the guys in this room right now. We will be your biggest cheerleaders.
So, yeah, look forward to what you're doing. Hey, how many jerseys do I need to send up there? If you want to send, like.
Actually, just send. I mean, really, send one that we can frame.
Like, that would be cool. We'll put it up.
We'll put it up on the wall. Perfect.
Perfect. Billy wants to wear one.
Yeah, so maybe send two. Send two.
Send two. Billy will wear one, we'll put one up on the wall and it'll be sick.
Say no more. Okay.
Awesome. Love it.
Well, thanks so much, man. Appreciate it.
Congrats. I appreciate you guys, man.
All right. See ya.
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Let's do some week 12 preview. Week 12.
We'll obviously, if you're, if you just tuned into this because you have to work, we'll know how, how Thursday went week 12 slate. Not the best.
Yeah. There's a couple of good, good games.
I kind of like it. Yeah.
You know what? It's a really good slate on paper. Yeah.
If you went into a coma some point over the summer and just woke up right now, you'd be like, damn, this NFL Sunday kicks ass. Yeah, like Rams, Chiefs, Packers, Eagles.
Yeah, Packers, Eagles. Oh, my God.
This is awesome. Yeah, this is going to be interesting.
Raiders, Seahawks Bucks Browns

Browns are going to be good this year

you're right so let's just pretend

that this entire slate

we're doing this in August

and it's a fucking loaded slate

ok so we'll do our four picks

talk about every game

then send everyone on their way to Thanksgiving

Hank

favorite

favorite

favorite Hank

Thank you. went on their way to Thanksgiving.
Hank, favorite, favorite. Whoa.

Favorite, favorite, Hank.

My favorite, favorite, sorry.

Cowboys.

So we're going to go with Sunday.

Got it.

Doesn't count.

We're going to go with Sunday.

We just said Thanksgiving, remember?

I mean, you deserve this one. 88.
88 degrees. My favorite favorite is Miami Dolphins minus 13 against the Houston Texans.
Okay. Texans are basically a college football team.
Could Alabama beat the Texans? Well, I guess not Alabama. Could Georgia beat the Texans? Yeah.
Could TCU beat the Texans? Yes. I think so, be the Texans yeah could TCU beat the Texans yes I think so too yeah definitely definitely not actually but yes okay Dolphins like it it's always it when you have a buy this late in the season I forget that you exist you know I mean like I forgot the Dolphins are one of the very good teams in the NFL it's's kind of like a double-bye because you get to play the Texans as well.
I also think Mike McDaniels is a big – I feel like he cooks in the bye week. Like an offensive-minded, schemey guy.
Yeah. When you have an extra week to just scheme.
He's been thinking of some shit. Yeah.
Just marinating on it for a while. We need to, as a podcast, just make a collective decision to always call him Mike McDaniels and always call the other guy Josh McDaniel.
I like that. I like that.
Does that work? Also, the Texans might be the rarest case ever for a 1-8-1 team. They kind of have a look-ahead spot.
It's very hard to do, but a 1-8-1 team with a look- a look ahead spot they do play the Browns and Deshaun Watson next week okay like it's almost impossible to have a look ahead that's probably the only way that the only way yeah so if you want to if you want to throw that into your handicap a look ahead spot all right so what's going to happen is uh the Texans are going to find a way to win this game out yeah right that's what after all that we've put into this. Everything says that the Texans are completely giving up and that the Dolphins are going to come out there and put 50 on them.
Yes, yes. I do not know how they're going to guard the Dolphins.
Okay, Max, your favorite favorite. Jets minus four and a half.
Fields is banged up. It's a verse.
Yep. Fields is banged up, and if he doesn't play, that offense could be horrendous against a good Jets defense.
I think it's Trevor Simeon if he doesn't play. Yes, exactly.
Yeah, yikes. We're not built to pass protect for an immobile quarterback.
What if they just have him run the Justin Fields offense? If this, I mean, I'd like to just see.

He would die.

Watching him be like, oh, Trevor Simeon's loose.

Oh, that's another five-yard loss.

But, yeah, if Justin Fields doesn't play,

this game is going to be horrendous for the Bears.

Yeah.

Horrendous.

And for America.

Yeah, the just defense is already elite. To go against Trevor Simeon would be an absolute laugher.
Okay, PFT, your favorite favorite. Okay, my favorite favorite is the Washington Commanders.
Usually I don't crap where I eat, but minus four and a half. We got Chase Young coming back.
Logan Thomas is going to feast on the subpar linebackers from the atlanta falcons probably going to have probably going to have two kick returns for touchdowns i think our special teams is going to be locked and loaded extra special um yeah but logan thomas probably at least two touchdowns special teams at least two touchdowns parlay that and just eat money you're just going to be eating money all weekend. This is going to be amazing.
Yeah.

Okay.

I like that pick as well.

My favorite favorite,

speaking of losing track of teams during the bye later on in the season,

I do feel like Tom Brady's bye and he's going to come back and they're going to rattle off some wins

and everyone's going to be like, watch out for Tom Brady.

The NFC's wide open. Don't forget about Tom Brady.
I think it starts with the Browns minus three and a half. I wish it was minus three, not three and a half, but I still think the bucks are just a better team than the Browns.
And I don't know, like the bucks defense will be able to shut down the Browns. So it's essentially if the, if the same as the whole season for the bucks, if they can have competent offense, they should win this game by double digits.
You are still addicted to betting on the Bucs. Yeah, I am.
I am. A hundred percent.
That's what's going on right now. I mean, listen, I've made some money back the last couple weeks.
They've done me well. They covered against the Rams.
They covered against the Seahawks. They're going to cover against the Browns.
Brady's dealing with a lot of off-field issues. Well, he has all season.
No, but even more now. He's getting sued.
Well, no, I know. That happened a few weeks ago.
Like, he's – I think that – I think we're – he's had so much shit off the field that I think that the 60 minutes that he's between the white lines actually is a respite for him. He lives for this right now.
Right. Like, this is the only time that he can't have anyone text him that he's getting sued for another thing.
Giselle texts him being like, hey, my kung fu instructor just chokeslammed me again. Like, he can't have any of that happen.
He's completely on his own for those 60 minutes. So this is probably his first Thanksgiving where they have to figure out what's going on with the family.
That's going to be tough for him. Yeah, that's true.
I'm just saying, I'm not trying to poke fun at Tom Brady. I'm saying that's a shitty situation.
That is. No, that sucks.
That absolutely sucks. Billy, your favorite favorite? Seahawks by three and a half.
Oh, he didn't go with the Jets. So, basically, against the Raiders.
Last season, I ended up in last place because I was taking the Jets all the time. I'm just going to stay away from the Jets just because I don't want to bowl a thousand times.
Starting now? Starting week 12. Week 12, yeah.
Smart. No, you don't fucking Jets.
That's my billy. Listen, you'll get great line value if Trevor Simeon plays.
I'm getting Jets, and that's also my over. Oh, okay.
I'm just fucking, I'm going in with it. Nice.
I like it, Billy. Yeah, listen, I don't want you to clip your own wings.
Okay, that's for us to do. That was the least amount of resistance we could have possibly given for you to switch your mind.
Zach Wilson. VT just said, oh, week 12? 39 and a half over.
Over, he's putting up like seven touchdowns. Because if he doesn't, he doesn't we're done yeah seven what does this stat line have to be for you to be back in 250 yards three touchdowns i'd say three touchdowns no the honest answer billy is going to be totally back in if he throws for 200 yards and no interceptions or not even 200 yards if he throws 100 yards but one is a Patrick Mahomes-like throw.
Yeah. Off-platform.
If he throws three touchdowns, he can have one interception. But over 250 yards.
As a treat. Okay.
Yeah. Okay.
Oh, so Seahawks-Raiders. I like that pick, Billy, just because the Raiders, like, they won.
They're feeling good. They're not good.
They're not good. And it's in Seattle.
Seattle off the bye. They had a pretty disappointing game against the Bucs in Germany.
Get themselves right. I like this.
It might be in the can't-lose parlay. I like that.
Ah, fuck. I've won four in a row, Billy.
Four in a row can't-lose parlay. That's a good thing.
Oh, but you took the Jets. I'm going to go back.
Okay. Well, you know what's crazy? If Billy wants to watch Zach Wilson or Joe Flacco, he can use the GameTime app.
Tickets to get in are just $64. Yeah, whoa.
Okay. So maybe not a premier game.
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What's your favorite favorite? I am taking the Ravens minus four at the Jaguars. This is a sketchy line, and I'm taking the trap.
Okay. Okay, you're falling for it.
Falling for it. Okay.
Yeah. Interesting.
I'm nervous about this game. I think the Ravens, I feel like the Jaguars, again, another team off a bye.
You'll get the best Jaguars effort. That might not mean they can cover, though.

Yeah, so the thing about the Ravens is they go up 10 points

against every team that they play.

This, to me, screams like backdoor at the very end.

Jaguars do something weird, score a touchdown.

Completely meaningless score.

But I understand your logic because everything about this game does, like,

you look at it, Ravens, Jaguars, four points, you feel like the Ravens win this by 10. But I get the logic.
Okay, Hank. That's a draw.
That's another draw. I hope you guys are taking the draws in the World Cup.
Very profitable. Year 10, boys.
Year 10. Okay.
Falcons. All right.
Plus four. Wow.
Against the Commanders. You know Chase Young's coming back.
You know Will Compton's coming back. And I agree with your take.
He does look badass on the sideline. You lose that.
He's a great cheerleader on the sideline. You lose that.
You lose that little punch on the sideline. That's true.
All right. Whatever, Hank.
That's fine. I expected this.
Okay. It's not you.
It's Will. It is Will.
You got to ride with ride with the boys uh go ahead matt does your 10 mean nothing to you no i love it i'm very excited i'm excited for will it means a lot sounds like you're a little jealous no we me and big cat helped get him on this we were on the text text thread being like we've been coach smith you have to you have to do this we've been his biggest proponents yeah go ahead max your favorite underdog. I'm taking the Browns plus three and a half.
I don't know why, but I'm taking the Browns. Because I took the Bucs.
That's fine. Just say it.
I thought about the Browns, too. Just say it, you jerk.
Just say it. I don't know.
I feel like the Bucs have looked all right recently, and I think that they stink. But the Browns also stink.
But three and a half. It's got to be weird energy, though, for the Browns, being like next week is Deshaun Watson week.
Right, but on that same token, I think that Jacoby Brissett is pumped knowing this is finally the end. I can empty the tank.
Whatever is in Jacoby Brissett's tank. Do you want Jacoby Brissett trying to empty the tank? That sounds i think sometimes you do i by the way i think jacoby brissette's getting like bigger as the season goes on i do too he's huge now he's probably like well i'm working out every sunday so i gotta i gotta make up for this calorie deficit yeah true and just eat eat carbs all all week uh okay your favorite underdog pft i'm going jags plus four at home against three i just to be backdoor.
Yeah. Yeah.
It feels like a weird spot for the Jaguars, and there's no real reason why I like them against the Ravens. Just I think that the Ravens, like I said, they'll get up by ten points.
Jaguars score a late touchdown, and Ravens win by three. Okay.
I'm going to go with the Titans, plus one and a half. Personal revenge for the playoff game they lost to the Bengals last year.

Jamar Chase still not back.

Joe Mixon maybe out, right?

Do we get a word on how bad Joe Mixon is hurt?

It's a concussion.

I feel like he's a protocol thing.

Yeah, so he might be out.

Titans are just, I mean, they're underdogs at home.

No one ever respects them, myself included.

I'm ready to just go into a fist fight with Mike Vrabel as my coach. Your favorite underdog, Billy.
My favorite underdog are the Titans by one and a half against the Cincinnati Bengals. Just like them.
I think that's a game they can win. Okay, let's go, Billy.
Let's ride. I'm riding with you guys.
One and a half. Wow.
All of us on it. Yeah.
All of us on it. I will say, I feel like group picks have done okay this year.
I'll have to dig up the numbers, but this isn't the first time. Yeah.
Yeah. I feel like we, I mean, we're so bad that it's shocking if anything anything is good if any deep numbers are good that's that's that's like we should just cling on to it and be like holy shit how did we do this um all right before you do your favorite over hank barstool bites pardon my cheesesteak is delivery and pickup only restaurant brand bringing you craveable cheesesteaks and loaded fries pardon my cheesesteak is now available hundreds of selected uh select locations nationwide six inch 12 inch chipotle cheesesteaks my personal favorite buffalo chicken get lunch dinner or late night delivery when you uh with seven days a week with pardon my cheesesteak go to pardon my cheesesteak.com to learn more and order now on doordash ubereats postmates or grubh Grubhub.
Henry. Ravens, Jaguars, over.
Okay. 44.
Ooh, any reasoning why? Two good, competent quarterbacks means a lot of offense in my mind. Trevor Lawrence, competent.
Absolutely competent. Okay.
Absolutely capable. If the Jaguars scored 30 points, would you blink? I think you just nailed it.
I wouldn't call him competent. Maybe.
I might blink. I wouldn't call him competent.
I would call him capable. Yes.
Capable. He is capable of anything.
You would not be surprised if it was a 34-31 game. I would blink.
I would blink a few times. Not like the guy from the GIF that's blinking, but I would like a moderate amount of surprise.
He is competent of being capable.

For sure.

I think it's the perfect way to put it.

Or capable of being competent.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Capable of being competent.

He's capable of being competent.

And the Ravens, even when they're up, they blow leads in the fourth quarter.

Like, no over safe.

No under safe with the Ravens.

Okay.

Go ahead, Max.

Chargers Cardinalss. Okay.
Go ahead, Max. Chargers-Cardinals over.
Okay. These Chargers.
47 and a half. I fall in and out of love with the Chargers on a biweekly basis.
Yeah. Like right after the games, I get that post-game clarity, and I hate them.
And then later on in the week, I'm like, I can't wait to see the Chargers again this weekend. Did you see our good friend Emmanuel Acho was so close to getting the take correct.
I love whenever a talking head is right around the take and he can't nail it. He was like, Justin Herbert is a social media quarterback.
And I was like, no, the Chargers are a social media team. Justin Herbert's not the not the problem he's like if anyone else throws a interception at the end of the game they get flamed it's like I think Justin Herbert is doing a lot for this team yeah it's the rest of the team that can't quite get over the yeah no he's made some incredible throws right this year he's been playing with like broken ribs for what feels like uh three months now Okay, your favorite over PFT.
Can I have permission to say if Joe Flacco plays, I would like to take the Jets' Bears over? Yes. Can I do that? And then can I put in if he doesn't? What about Justin Fields, too? This is strictly based on Flacco.
It's the Flacco over. Okay.
All right. Is that is that okay yes if joe flacco plays he has to start if joe flacco starts correct if joe flacco starts you get the over i want the over in this which is uh 39 and a half well it might change because joe flacco i'll take you have to take i'll take the adjusted flacco okay fair fair okay i think that's allowed yeah okay because this might be my last time to ever bet on joe flacco that's a lot of touchdowns that's a lot now if he doesn't i'm going to call an audible and i'm going to go with um i'm going to go with the saints and the 49ers same 43 same that's what i've got same same now the thing that makes me a little nervous about that is you have jimmy g and andy dalton coming off of good games respectively yeah that makes me nervous but it's not prime time it's not prime time but that you know like that's that's like they just hit blackjack on the table yeah i'm waiting for them to get a 16 against a face card maybe andy's just in a stride.
And the nice thing about Jimmy G is even if he comes out and has one of his trademark Jimmy G egg games, they can just hand the ball off and hand the ball off, and they'll probably still score 24 points if they do that. Yeah, yeah, that's true.
All right, so I'm on that with you. Billy, go ahead.
Your favorite over. Oh, you have the Jets.
Yeah. So what's it at right now? 39 and a half.
39 and a half locked in. That will be a problem.
You'll basically get the benefit. If Trevor Simeon starts, you're over as fucked, but the Jets is a great line value.
Well, what the Jets need to do is blow out this team and just statement win, show the offense works, and that's what they need. Yeah.
Okay. Go ahead, Jake.
I'm taking Rams Chiefs over 44.

This is simply a respect pick off of their last matchup together, 54 to 51.

That's the last time they played.

Yeah, 2018, 2022.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you have to see the teams.

It doesn't matter the context.

It's just 105 points last time.

I like it.

Oh, they only need 44?

Easy.

Are you a little nervous about the fact it might be Bryce Perkins?

No, because Chiefs can put up 54 again. That's true.
They could. All right, let's finish this off with the unders.
Send everyone off. Henry.
Daniel. My under.
Look, we're like almost ready for vacation. We're 10 minutes away from vacation.
The vibes are good. Not me.
I still got work to do. You work so fucking hard.
I know. Fuck you.
Doesn't count. But it's like not even funny because no one's even picking numbers.
No, I know. But it's funny because 17 gets hit.
6-9. 16.
Oh, so close. Going to spread my wings.
My under is Jets-Bears. If it's Zach Wilson versus Trevor Simeon and you bet the over, you're a creeps person.
I'd agree. Did you write that down or are you trying to fade Billy? Because we're tied.
It's a little early to do that. It's week 12.
It's a little early. I don't know if you heard the beginning when I picked the Cowboys I didn't write anything Yeah, that's true And also, we will start doing the You have to do a secret ballot when we get to the last few weeks of the season It doesn't really take a genius to naturally fade Billy though You're just going to take the Jets That might help him I had to watch Zach Wilson last week And fading, he was actually – if I was – I'm not going to get into it.

Okay.

Zach Wilson's the worst quarterback in the NFL.

Trevor Simeon, great guy. Shout out to Trevor Simeon.

But you haven't played in Justin Fields' offense.

It's not going to be good.

No.

Either way, Justin Fields is banged up.

Give him the under.

Yeah.

All right.

Max.

I'm fading you two. I have uh niners what the fuck under the fuck dude why is that you love you yeah yeah yeah i just am it's strategic that's what i was going for i was you know i'm trying to catch big cat so oh okay all right uh under, I'm going to go Texans-Dolphins.
Just because I do think that there's a possibility that the Texans are just garbage. Well, they are garbage.
They are garbage. We know that.
But they also could make it just really, really ugly. Yeah, I could see that.
Yeah, absolutely. Okay, my under, I'm surprised it's still on the board.
No one's talked this game it's a terrible game broncos panthers under 36 it is very low very low oh my god the broncos though are nine and one to the under and their unders have been like under 40 in like the last four or five weeks so it's they just can't score and they have a good defense well somehow they've actually figured out a way to make unders entertaining. Because they keep getting lower and lower and lower.
And you keep getting challenged to bet on the under. And you keep saying to yourself, there's no way that Russell Wilson could be this bad yet again.
And so it is actually kind of an exhilarating under to bet. It absolutely is.
Because if they score a touchdown in the first quarter, you feel like you're fucked. Yeah.
One touchdown in the first 15 minutes and you're're like, I'm dead. Do you see that they waved Melvin Gordon? Oh, they did? Yeah.
So it seemed like it was maybe going to happen earlier this season when he fumbled again, but I think they actually gave him a real honest to God, what's the word that I'm looking for, ultimatum, which is the next time you fumble, we're going to fire you. And it lasted for a long time.

He hasn't fumbled for most of the season.

But I guess they just stuck through their word.

And they're like, oh, you fumbled last week? We told you next time

you're gone. Yeah, this was very clear.

Couldn't have been more clear about this one. You knew what was going to happen.

Okay, unders.

Billy and Jake, let's wrap it up.

Packers-Eagles, 46-and-a-half.

I feel like even though he has struggled this season,

the way to play Aaron Rodgers is try to keep him up the field.

Eagles are going to run the ball.

Clock's going to run down.

Eagles just doing long running drives.

It's going to be an under, and the Packers can't score.

Okay.

Yeah, I don't hate Sunday night unders.

I feel like they hit all the time.

Maybe not last week, but every other week.

Every time I bet the over.

Jake. If the group allows it, I'd like to forfeit my under after taking the under against the big gobble.
I feel bad. No, no.
That was – come on. You can still win it.
It's the last game. Okay.
I feel bad. No, no, no.
You shouldn't feel bad. I did that just because it was funny.
Okay. I'm rooting for the big gobble.
The Lions are going to score 80 points. Yes.
The Lions-Bills game is going to be 80 points. You're going to have no problem.
We're going to need like 14 points in the night game. Okay, deal.
I'm also taking Bears-Jets under 39 and a half. Okay.
Okay. Bears-Jets under 39 and a half.
Any games that we missed? I think we hit them all. Let's see.
Monday night. Yeah, Monday night.
This is tough. Steelers-Colts.
Real tough. Also, my of the year, I think, is dead.
Is it? By the time you're listening, it'll already be officially dead, but it has to be by the end of the day, today. And I looked, and Schefter tweeted it for last week's game around 11 a.m.
Oh, no, Jay. But they took the Cowboys out in 2020, so it has happened before.
Yeah, but they were bad that year. Jake, you picked a hell of a time to call your flex of the year.
I know. Right off the bat against the Cowboys.
But like Big Cat once said, he's addicted to game of the year. It's just like I thought of him like, oh, I'm going all in.
Yeah, flex of the year. It was.
I hope I'm wrong. I hope we're listening.
You're listening now and you're like, and Schefter tweeted out in the afternoon, but I'm retired from predicting flexes.

You know what?

I'm going to – you're out of the retirement.

You're coming back.

I'm back.

I'm unretiring. I think the Patriots and Raiders play in a few weeks.

Okay.

So, there we go.

Guys, calling that one.

Yeah, you got to be the flex guy.

Anything else?

Anything we want to say to wrap up?

Like, it feels – always Thanksgiving feels like we've made it to the other side of football season. I'm a little bit sad.
I'm sad. I mean Thanksgiving is a great holiday and I love vacations probably more than anybody in this room but it's sad that football season is almost...
We've done more football than we have. I almost said that football season is more than a half way.
Yeah, someone's got to pay these bills. That's true.
How do you think you're able to afford your vacations, eh? That's a fact. I couldn't even tell you the last one.
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Rave reviews coming in. But yeah, this does feel, it feels like nut crunching time after Thanksgiving.
It's definitely nut crunching time. It's like who's going to actually do something? Nut cutting time, I would even say.
Nut cutting time, yeah. Thankful for football.
Yeah, thanks, Billy. Thankful for football.
Very thankful. Don't get convinced to do some turkey trot this Thanksgiving.
Go sling the pigskin with the neighborhood kids. Just throw it around.
Yeah. I like that, Billy.
That's a good message. Not enough, guys.
COVID's over. Go find your neighbors and go play football.
You know what? I actually think Instagram has ruined the neighborhood football game on Thanksgiving because everyone wants to do their fun run, take a picture, that whole thing. Just go out and play football.
Go clothesline your neighbor. Yeah.
Yeah, get really hurt. Have at least someone at Thanksgiving be, like, badly, badly hurt.
Get some rough touch. The people in the ER right now, they're lonely.
They're working on Thanksgiving. Go pay them a visit.
Yeah, they would love to hear the story about how you would have caught it if you didn't blow out your Achilles. That's exactly what they want on Thanksgiving.
OK, we'll see everyone on Monday.

No show Friday, obviously.

Be safe.

Everybody out there use Ubers and Lyfts.

Yes.

Nobody get in trouble this weekend.

Yes.

Yes.

Do that.

Hank, have you ever gotten this?

Nope.

Today's date is one one two two two two.

So I feel like, whoa, I might change it up and go 22.

Oh, OK. I'm going to go 64.
I it up and go 22. Oh, okay.

I'm going to go 64.

I'm going to go 17.

You're going 11?

Because 1-1-2-2-2-2.

You're going 11.

Going 11.

17.

And I see 17.

I don't like where it's placed right now.

Will you pick a number for me, Hank?

Almost getting sucked right now.

For Thanksgiving, Hank.

All right, fine.

Thank you.

72.

72.

Thank you, Hank.

What do you see at the bottom?

20.

It's actually right at the top. 20.
All right. Thank you, Hank.
All right. 72 is my number.
Would this be a Thanksgiving miracle? Hank has 11. I got 17 shows left, by the way.
I've seen 11 bounce around. Oh, my God.
64 again. And I guessed it.
Had Hank. That backfired.
Three out of four. It's a wagon guessed it had Hank.
That backfired.

Three out of four.

It's a wagon.

Back to back.

That backfired.

Never has happened before.

That actually might be our first dynasty.

That's true.

64 is now tied with 52 for the lead.

I don't care if I get it.

Wow, nine times.

That's funny that that happened.

You should have taken 64 when I asked.

Don't do this. No, you gave me a number.
I took 72. Three shows in a row.
That's insane. I love that Jake is like legitimately like ready to jump out of the odds of that.
It's crazy. Where are you putting it in when you put it back in? Right here.
Same place all the balls go, Billy. Right there.
Maybe the place is. Yeah, but he just pulled out like seven balls, too.
Yeah. How many repeats are there? Hank, it's never been easier to guess...
Imagine if your favorite number was 64. Yeah, and it's also never been easier...
You'd be three in a row. ...to guess the lottery ball number.
It's never been easier. You have to guess 64 next show.
I don't have to do shit. If 64 pops up next show, I think we have to retire it.
Well, it's time for the lead with 52. No, you got to keep it going.
Greatness. Greatness doesn't quit.
Maybe like make it walk away for a couple seasons. Oh, man.
Play a different sport. All right.
Well, from our family to yours, happy Thanksgiving. We'll see everyone on Monday.
Let us be the first to wish you a happy Thanksgiving. Ben Franklin wanted

the national symbol to not be

the bald eagle, but the turkey, because the turkey

is only found in the continental

United States. Love you guys.
You know who the real

turkey is.

Love you. Shine away.
I'll be coming for your love again. Shine away.
I'll be coming for your love again. You've been so good to me.
Give you anything. You've been so good to me.
Your love is sad. Thank you.
Take me off. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, lie, love, but display my worries away.
You are the things I've got to remember.

You're shying away.

Love comes weird, but you're like.

You're shying away.

Love comes weird, but you're like.

You're shying away.

Take on me.

Take on me.

Take on me.

Take on me.

Take on me.