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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we have our good friend Ryan Whitney in studio NHL 2022-2023 season preview. Season starts tonight, so we figured good time to get him in here,

Speaker 1 get talking about all the games. There's an awesome preseason game last night with Ovie and McDavid going back and forth.
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Speaker 1 Today is Wednesday, November 9th, and I am so sick of the Saints shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. I mean,

Speaker 1 that's a good good way to put it. I've heard a lot of people clamoring for Jameis Winston, myself included.
I'm currently clamoring for him right now.

Speaker 1 He's got four broken backs.

Speaker 1 How about the fact the Saints have three quarterbacks and two of them are objectively very fun and interesting and we had to watch Nice Guy, but we had to watch Andy Dalton struggle on Monday night football.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying. If you give me Taysom Hill, give me the Taysom Hill game.

Speaker 1 I want the experiment, the grand experiment. Let's see if a dose of Taysom Hill, that tends to work.
Why don't we build the entire offense out of Taysom Hill? Yes. I want to see that.

Speaker 1 Or I want to see Jameis Winston. But as Jameis 1 of 1 has pointed out several times, he's the most injured quarterback maybe in NFL.
He's lucky he's alive right now.

Speaker 1 Jameis 1 of 1 actually reached out to me and said, hey, bro,

Speaker 1 how is what Dennis Allen did to Jameis Winston not a bigger story in New Orleans, if not nationally? And he went on to just say this.

Speaker 1 Did he say Dennis Allen reinserted his QB1, who has just broken four vertebrae in his back? Yeah. Six to 10 weeks taking recovery time.
So free Jameis,

Speaker 1 Not a great Monday night football game, but the Ravens

Speaker 1 defense looks very scary. Very, very scary.
Well, when they're tackling, it does. It does when they're tackling.
I still think that that was

Speaker 1 the play, the touchdown for the Saints, he was out of bounds, and they just didn't review it. They didn't even, they didn't.

Speaker 1 I felt like his foot was out of bounds, and they just, they're like, ah, fuck it, this game's over. The guy, the cornerback that just reacted like he was, he should be cut.

Speaker 1 Yeah, played till the whistle. He stopped and he just pointed at the line.
He was like, that's where he stepped out. Yeah, you probably should finish.
Cut him. You should finish.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the game started. The Ravens scored, and I was like, this game's over.
I bet a minus 17.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. Crazy big odds.
Oh, no.

Speaker 2 So obviously I was the only, it wasn't like everyone felt the back door, but I did.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I was furious.
Damn. Lamar Jackson was incredible again last night.
No. He's just.

Speaker 1 Lamar Jackson is maybe my favorite quarterback to watch when I don't have a dog in the fight.

Speaker 1 He was angry last night. He was very angry.
I like that.

Speaker 1 I'm a little concerned, Big Cat, though. Is he going to take in all these hits? Is he going to be able to last in the NFL? That's a good question.
That's a very good question.

Speaker 1 I like seeing Lamar that angry because I do think he's one of those guys that cares

Speaker 1 more.

Speaker 1 Everyone cares, but I feel like Lamar is in the top echelon of caring about his team and his play. And you just see it week to week.
He really fucking cares. Like, it's not just a job to him.

Speaker 1 He really fucking wants to win.

Speaker 2 He puts the team on his back.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he does. And I, this might be recency bias, but I have

Speaker 1 made a wager on the Baltimore Ravens to win the Super Bowl at 13 to 1.

Speaker 1 So I'll talk myself through it, but I basically was thinking to myself, I probably should get an AFC team because I have my Eagles.

Speaker 1 And after watching Sunday, watching what the Jets did to the Bills, watching what the Titans almost did to the Chiefs, why not defense? Why not defense? Why not?

Speaker 1 Everyone's like, oh, you know, no one's going to be able to keep up with the Bills and the Chiefs' offense. Why not? Why aren't we looking for defense?

Speaker 1 It also gives you a good opportunity to just root for your guy at linebacker again, Roquan Smith. Yeah, Roquan Smith.
That's nice to get to just transfer that.

Speaker 1 You got

Speaker 1 Big Bird. Yeah, two Birds.
I'm rooting for the Birds.

Speaker 1 Roquan Smith, Bowser's back.

Speaker 1 I think he was a second-round draft pick. He would have been a first-round draft pick.

Speaker 1 Ojabu from Michigan. Queens.
He's coming back soon.

Speaker 1 I worried about their offense. Mark Andrews being out hurts, but I was just thinking about it more.
They're running the ball so well again, and why can't it just be a little zag? I also looked it up

Speaker 1 in terms of defensive rushing against the only AFC

Speaker 1 team in the top five is the Tennessee Titans. So maybe just don't play the Tennessee Titans again.

Speaker 1 Don't play the Tennessee Titans and the Ravens can win the Super Bowl. So if you go up against the Bills, that's going to be tough because...
they almost beat the Bills.

Speaker 1 So, the thing about the Bills' defense,

Speaker 1 I think we talked about this last Sunday. They're engineered to stop Patrick Mahomes.
They pretty much built their entire defense around get to a quarterback that's going to dice you up with his arm.

Speaker 1 Lamar is a little bit different. Their entire running game is built a little bit differently.
So, I could actually see the Ravens being a pretty good matchup

Speaker 1 defense-wise against either the Chiefs or the Bills.

Speaker 1 But yeah, when you do run into the Titans, who they play Ravens-style defense, and they play like Ravens style, just like, hey, our passing offense isn't the best.

Speaker 1 Let's just fucking punch you in the mouth over and over. Yeah, I think either one of those teams could beat each other.

Speaker 1 And this might sound very stupid, but I kind of like, you know, 2018, we obviously had talked about it a lot when Lamar won the MVP. And I was on the, was it 2018, 2019? I think it was 2018.

Speaker 1 When I kept on saying they're frauds and I thought they were going to be out and they lost to the Titans, they were the one seed. I like the Ravens as like not the one seed.

Speaker 1 I like when people are sleeping on the Ravens because everyone said said the Chiefs and the Bills are the two teams in the AFC.

Speaker 1 I just think they're a fucking tough ass team, and their defense is going to keep getting better. And Lamar, I don't know.
If you like, could you imagine? Wouldn't that be so, Ravens?

Speaker 1 For Lamar to win the Super Bowl in a contract year,

Speaker 1 do they have to pay him the flacco? That would be that he would pull a full flacco on you. Starting to all come together.

Speaker 1 And yeah, I don't know what's going to happen after the Super Bowl or after the season's over, Lamar, because

Speaker 1 he's in a very weird situation where he's representing himself, and it's be careful what you wish for on both accounts.

Speaker 1 So if you want to let him walk at the end of the season, you're not going to get another Lamar Jackson in the draft. You're not going to trade for another Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 1 You're going to have to go out there and find somebody. That's going to suck for a while for the Ravens.
But also if you're Lamar, that offense was built for you by, what, Greg Roman.

Speaker 1 It was built by Harbaugh, who I guess

Speaker 1 his brother helped design that offense to begin with and perfected it with Kaepernick to a certain extent, who got beat by Joe Flacco's Ravens. Who's also Greg Roman, right? Who's also Greg Roman?

Speaker 1 Greg Roman was with the 49ers, yeah. Greg Blue, so yeah.
Yeah, so this is like it's a good situation for both the Ravens and Lamar.

Speaker 1 I hope they work something out because I could see Lamar going someplace where he doesn't have that kind of like that exact same offense.

Speaker 1 Yeah, might not have the exact same autonomy in that new offense that he's getting into, and he might be like, this sucks. I wish I was still on the Ravens.

Speaker 1 I did love the story that Lamar said he didn't realize what he was signing against the Bucs on Thursday night that said, like, pay Lamar. Yeah.
And Joe Buck gave that anecdote.

Speaker 1 He's like, he said afterwards he didn't know what he was signing. And then we had the other anecdote, which I loved from Monday night: the tattoo guy, total psycho, crazy NFL fan.

Speaker 1 NFL fans are the craziest, and it's very funny. He gets, I don't know if you guys were listening or if you're on the Manningcast, but he gets a tattoo after every win that symbolizes that win.

Speaker 1 So when they beat the Bucs, it was like a sword through the Bucs

Speaker 1 logo. And the Ravens' official account tweets them all out, except for he got one that just said pay Lamar.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, sorry, it was it was the sword through the Raiders logo. The Bucs one was the pay Lamar one.
They didn't tweet that one out. Interesting.
So it was, you know, I just kind of like that story.

Speaker 1 But I, yeah, I'm sure there'll be Ravens fans be like, oh, you're jinxing us. Guess what? I don't, I don't control who's going to win the Super Bowl.
And I wanted to have a team in the AFC as well.

Speaker 1 So it's a substantial wager on the Ravens. 13 to 1.
I also want to. I'm still going to make fun of the Ravens if they if they choke.
Oh, well, no. I'm not allowing your future to take my joint.

Speaker 1 No, no, listen, I am too.

Speaker 1 I was actually talking to Max about this in the car today.

Speaker 1 He was like, I was like, you know, if the Eagles get to the NFC Championship game, that will be an incredible stream. Like, I'm going to be there rooting with you guys.

Speaker 1 And I was like, but you do know that if the Eagles lose, I will switch so fast to just troll because that's just money for me. Like, it's not my fandom.
And I'm still, I'm rooting for the Bills.

Speaker 1 I am too. Bills and the Colts and the AFC.
Those are my teams. So that was part of this thought process as well.
Is Josh Allen okay? Yeah, so Josh Allen.

Speaker 1 I hope he's okay, but I'm worried he's not okay. I'm going to put on my doctor's hat for a second because I'm currently recovering from the same injury that Josh Allen has right now.

Speaker 1 We're very similar. I hurt mine in a golf simulation.
He hurt his elbow getting sacked by a defensive end on the Jets.

Speaker 1 So Billy has injected my arm with research chemicals. But besides that, I haven't really done any sort of recovery on it.
And I'm fine.

Speaker 1 I feel like I can go about my day and do my job on a regular basis.

Speaker 1 So I expect Josh Allen to also be fine. I hope he's fine.

Speaker 1 But I'm worried that it might be more serious. So I was thinking about it.
I was like, well, if he's hurt for a while, this could be a problem. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Billy, you look like you have something to say medically. I just helped you avoid surgery.
Yeah, well, no. Thank you.
Basically, me being lazy helped me avoid surgery.

Speaker 1 Me not scheduling surgery is really what made me avoid the surgery. And not the injection.
What were you going to say, Hank?

Speaker 2 Well, Well, he's just a running quarterback, and that's just the risk get hurt.

Speaker 1 They're going to take big heads. They get hurt.

Speaker 2 Also, PFT doesn't have to use his arm for his job.

Speaker 1 True. I type.
What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 What's that? Nothing. I didn't say anything.
Not for his job. No, it's No Nut November.
Yeah, right. I actually picked a perfect time.
Yeah. Well, you got hurt three months ago.

Speaker 1 It's no perfect time to be rehurt. Listen, I haven't come in three years.

Speaker 1 My body just resorbs all the protein and energy. That's why I'm so masculine.
That's why

Speaker 1 my T is so high. Yeah, right.

Speaker 2 I was also going to say, likely's been really good.

Speaker 1 Likely's really good.

Speaker 2 Mark Andrews replacement.

Speaker 1 Again, there's probably, I would say, there's a

Speaker 1 1% chance that either of my futures get to the Super Bowl, but I, because it's just me and I'm the worst gambler of all time. Has there ever been a bird bowl? Bird Bowl would be fun.

Speaker 1 Bird Bowl, I think there has been a bird bowl. Ooh, bird bowl.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, the bird bath. Ooh, has there? Two birds, one stone.
Huh. It had to be.

Speaker 1 I don't know if there has been a bird bowl. That's worth two in the bush.
The Eagles played the Raiders and the Patriots in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 Patriots have never lost to a bird team. That's the first search when you type in Super Bowl bird team.

Speaker 1 Okay, thanks. Thanks for clearing that up.
The Falcons played the Broncos in the Super Bowl. I don't think so.
Give me other bird teams. The Cardinals players.
All but one of the five birds.

Speaker 1 The Seahawks played the Steelers. Seahawks played the Broncos.
Seahawks played the Steelers. Seahawks played the Broncos.
Panthers played the Pansy teams.

Speaker 2 Ravens 49ers. Seahawks, Patriots.
Falcons, Patriots.

Speaker 1 Eagles Patriots.

Speaker 2 Ravens, Giants. The Cardinals have never made it.

Speaker 1 The Ravens Giants. Yeah.
So no bird birds. No, the Cardinals have made the Super Bowl.
Yeah, that's it. We lost to the Steelers.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Because aren't all the bird teams pretty new besides the Eagles?

Speaker 1 Seahawks have been around for a while. The Seahawks have been around for a while.
They're new to the NFC. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I just said Panthers for the Birds. I don't know why I said that.
They have the Birds. I was like, their Panthers played the Patriots.
They're bird adjacent. That's not.
That's not a bird team.

Speaker 1 They are rocking all the time. They're very much not birds.
They're rocking the all-black jerseys on Thursday night.

Speaker 1 So thank God, at least we're getting the Falcons and the Panthers on Thursday night. Yes.
At least we're getting like a new uniform to get us through this. One last stat for you.

Speaker 1 Ravens have faced the third hardest schedule for opposing offenses. So

Speaker 1 that was the other part. I looked at their schedule.
I think they played the Jags, Steelers twice. They could win.
They could lose maybe one more.

Speaker 1 Like, they could very much have four losses going into the playoffs. So, yeah, Ravens,

Speaker 1 I'm hoping that it's kind of like my Villanova when I trashed Villanova in 2015 and then I hopped on their bandwagon in 2016. Hoping this just turns all the way around.

Speaker 2 I really, I really like the Ravens.

Speaker 1 I like Patrick Ricard. I want Patrick Card to get

Speaker 1 he's insane. The fact that he's able to move is nuts.
Like his body defies, as Billy says, he's like the Kool-Aid man in terms of his proportions.

Speaker 1 He's exactly as wide as he is tall, and he runs probably like a 4'8, 4'7, 40. And thanks for that tip, Hank.
Yeah, good tip, Hank. Appreciate that.

Speaker 1 Oh, and then not to brag, but we called him. I talked about that at the beginning.

Speaker 1 Deshaun Jackson. Deshaun Jackson had a I think he had one catch and a hamstring injury last night.

Speaker 1 Perfect.

Speaker 1 That's the Deshaun Jackson hat-trick. Kevin White also had a catch.

Speaker 1 I'm very much in this similar to the 50-50 raffle.

Speaker 1 When Kevin White finally scores a touchdown, because I bet on him every time he gets elevated, I will be exactly even for my life betting on him to score a touchdown. He's always like 20 to 1.

Speaker 1 He's never scored a touchdown in the NFL, Which is sad.

Speaker 2 I will say with Patrick Ricard, I did give the tip to the group. Patrick Ricard, first touchdown score.

Speaker 2 They got in a third and one goal line situation, except it was on like the 40-yard line, and they ran Patrick Ricard.

Speaker 1 So wait, that wasn't goal line.

Speaker 2 But it was a goal line tight.

Speaker 1 So the play was just ran at the

Speaker 1 first time they were in a situation where

Speaker 1 if the 40-yard line was the goal line,

Speaker 1 we would have won. Yeah, if

Speaker 1 they had a one-yard play in place,

Speaker 1 so they wasted it.

Speaker 2 Yes, but if that was in the goal line, I would have been right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true. Well, if my annual

Speaker 1 had pedals, she'd be a bicycle. Yeah, we can now get refund for that.
I think so. Yeah.
Be like, hey, watch this play. See this? Pretty much.
Just pretend that was at the goal line.

Speaker 1 I did see a stack that came out last night. You know, we have publicly doubted the Vikings, and we have put some skin literally in the game against them.

Speaker 1 A little stack came out saying, stop asking if the Vikings are a legit 7-1 team. They've played the 13th most difficult schedule this year.

Speaker 1 The 49ers have played the 23rd, Seahawks played the 24th, Giants the 27th, and the Eagles have played the 31st ranked schedule.

Speaker 1 But the Vikings lost to the Eagles by a lot. Who have the 31st ranked strength of schedule? Right.

Speaker 1 So does that mean that the Eagles are only good because they play a weak schedule, including the Vikings? That's where you start wrapping your head in the circular logic. Right.

Speaker 1 That doesn't make any sense. I'm still very comfortable with where we stand.
I am as well.

Speaker 1 I am as well.

Speaker 1 And we just need Josh Allen to be healthy and the Bills to just shit pump him. Because that will scare me.
If there's a healthy Josh Allen and the Vikings go to Buffalo and beat the Bills.

Speaker 1 Who's the backup in Buffalo? Case Keenum. Case Keenum.
Case Keenum. Case Keenum

Speaker 1 going to Minnesota.

Speaker 1 With Stephon Diggs. Double revenge game.

Speaker 1 I love the Bills this weekend. I don't care who's playing quarterback.
Case Keenum revenge game. What are are you going to say, Jake?

Speaker 5 Vikings have a favorable schedule. They only go on the road two more times.

Speaker 1 It's an easy schedule. This year.
What? Whoa. This calendar year.
Oh, you did that. And one of them is at Detroit.

Speaker 5 At Buffalo, and then at Detroit. And then the last two games at Green Bay and Chicago.

Speaker 1 But they better be careful what they wish for. Oh, yeah, you can't do that.
If they keep winning these games, they're going to get flexed into prime time.

Speaker 1 And then look at this fine nest of hell that you've created for yourself, Kirk Cousins. You can't do that, Jake.
There's two games past New Year's.

Speaker 5 Yeah, they both have them on the road.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you duped us. That sounds crazy at the beginning of November.
That was a classic announcer trip that you just did. Okay, other story.
Jim Ursa has lost his mind. So, Jim Ursa,

Speaker 1 we, as first reported on Pardon My Take, because we actually, I'd say, if we had one thing that we do better than anyone else, it's when we can basically read the tea leaves of a coach getting fired based on quotes from an owner and their actions.

Speaker 1 We've been talking about Frank Reich basically being fired a month ago when all this started.

Speaker 1 He finally was fired on Monday, and in an absolutely shocking turn of events, Jeff Saturday is the new coach of the Colts. If you're probably saying, hey, where was Jeff Saturday coaching? He wasn't.

Speaker 1 He was at ESPN. That's not exactly true, Big Cat.
He was coaching two years ago. Two years ago, high school.
Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 High school. So Jim Merce has hired Jeff Saturday.
He then gave a press conference.

Speaker 1 He was asked if he's experienced. He said, yes, he is fully experienced enough.

Speaker 1 My favorite part of the world is fully capable was when he said that it's actually a good thing that he doesn't have any NFL experience

Speaker 1 because that way he doesn't have all this fear that goes along with a lot of guys who are NFL coaches that have to turn to analytics.

Speaker 1 So it turned into like a rant of Jim Merce against, like, this guy doesn't know shit about numbers, so therefore he can never use numbers. He's so dumb, he's smart.

Speaker 1 I'm starting to believe in Jeff Saturday in this experiment. Now, if you're not rooting for Jeff Saturday,

Speaker 1 you're a nerd with a calculator where your nuts should be because this is going to be, this is what makes the NFL so fun is that we get this guy that's completely unqualified for the job.

Speaker 1 He's going to have to learn, number one, how to like do all the boring shit involved in being an NFL head coach, like scheduling meetings, figuring out cafeteria times, transportation, hotels.

Speaker 1 It would be a miracle if they just show up on the sidelines on time against the Raiders. He is being thrown to the wolves.
He has no idea what he's doing.

Speaker 1 There's nobody on the team that plays, that calls plays. Plays, yes.
They fired the offensive coordinator, and then they fired the coach. It's going to be awesome to watch.
You are right, though, PFT.

Speaker 1 This Jeff Saturday situation is like... I know I'm right.
He's basically,

Speaker 1 I mean, Jeff Saturday, when they talked about it afterwards, they asked him what he felt when Jim Merce called him. He said shocked would be an understatement.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Shocked would be an understatement. He's also playing the Raiders, who just last week, he said the Raiders are garbage on Twitter.

Speaker 1 Jeff Saturday did because he was an ESPN analyst watching games on his couch. And now we have Jeff Saturday the coach.

Speaker 1 Jim Mercey also said we were lucky to get that he was available, which I, what was he doing otherwise besides being on ESPN?

Speaker 1 It made it sound like every other coach that he called was busy, like running errands this weekend. Yeah,

Speaker 1 he said, I've never hired a losing coach. It's right there in black and white.

Speaker 1 Last interim coach that he hired won a Super Bowl. Yep, that's true.
He said that

Speaker 1 Ballard, Chris Ballard, is a winner, which

Speaker 1 where has he shown that he's a winner? Well, I guess he's above 500, right? Yeah, I guess that would technically be winning.

Speaker 1 I actually think

Speaker 1 this is going to sound crazy, but with the way this Colts thing has worked out, Jim Ursa, Frank Reich, Chris Ballard, I think I actually take Carson Wentz's side in the breakup.

Speaker 1 Because like they remember how much they bashed him and were like, he's not a leader. He's the reason we lost the Jags.

Speaker 1 Now that we've moved away from it, you know, eight months and we've seen some more stuff, I think Carson Wentz was not the problem. It was just all the other guys.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of weird stuff going on in Indy. And I think it's fair to also ask the question, is Sam Ellinger a coach killer? Yeah.

Speaker 1 So he steps in and then immediately, like two weeks later, boom, Frank Reich's fired. A lot of people are saying it.
I just wanted to give a platform to it.

Speaker 2 Also, quick stat correction about that Colts game. It was 75 and sunny in New England.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was. It was not.
It was raining earlier in the day. It was not.
It was not. It was.

Speaker 1 I was kind of there. You were there.

Speaker 1 What does that mean? You were kind of there.

Speaker 1 I was within 100 miles of the stadium and it was raining. Where you were? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, not earlier in the day. Okay, but no.
There was a passing shower. So you got rained on while you were not there at a different time than the game was being played.
It was wet.

Speaker 1 The conditions were wet. Okay.
Like in the beginning. The conditions were wet.
Jim Mercy also said that he likes to operate like the CIA in hiring a head coach, which is, I don't know what that means.

Speaker 1 If he was interrogating him, if there was waterboarding, spending some time in South America, Jim Ursa probably enjoys that sort of thing.

Speaker 1 How much does he hate the rest of the staff that he just called Jeff Saturday? Like everyone else has. Is Chuck Bagano on the staff? No, no, not Chuck Bogano.
Gus Bradley. Is he on the staff?

Speaker 1 I don't know who else is on the way. I feel like Gus Bradley is Jay Wayne.
Oh, yeah, Reggie Wayne's on the staff. I actually think that

Speaker 1 they handled this hire. Gus Bradley is.
Much like you and I handled when we first tried to call a quarterback on our show. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And we're like, yeah, let's just go through our phone and see who we know, who we'll pick up. And then we start scrolling.

Speaker 1 I think Jim Ursa did that, except with people that he thought could potentially coach his team. So he's like, oh,

Speaker 1 I love Saturday. I love Jeff Saturday.
Yeah, let's get him involved. This actually makes sense.
Jim Ursay is just like, everything is reversed.

Speaker 1 Like, when he called Chris Ballard a winner, I think he means because Chris Ballard was with the Bears when the Colts beat the Bears in the Super Bowl. So So he's a winner because he

Speaker 1 won that experience. He's been around.

Speaker 1 No, but he looks back on that fondly. He's like, remember when Chris Ballard was a scout for the Bears and we won the Super Bowl against the Bears? Yeah.
Winner.

Speaker 1 Even though he wasn't on the Colts.

Speaker 1 There was also, there were a lot of pictures being disseminated on social media of Frank Reich yesterday, right after he got fired, because now the new thing is Adam Schefter has that graphic that he puts out that's got like the bottom line ticking across it saying Frank Reich fired.

Speaker 1 And there were like three or four pictures that I saw in a row. And I realized that every time I see a picture of Frank Reich, he looks extremely sad.
Yeah. He's always, he looks like Eeyore.

Speaker 1 He looks like he's just walking around crying.

Speaker 1 The Patriots should go get Frank Reich right now to be their OC because he is a good offensive coordinator. He just hasn't been able to run a team.

Speaker 1 Here's, I'm looking at the Colts coaching staff right now. This kind of hurts.

Speaker 1 Do you know who's

Speaker 1 a senior defensive assistant on the Colts coaching staff? No. John Fox.

Speaker 1 Oh, really? John Fox on the Colts coaching staff. He's got all that experience.
Dude, and he didn't, he was like, let me go. And not only that, like,

Speaker 1 I'm sure that there'll be,

Speaker 1 I think, I think Jim Ursa actually has been applauded so much for his work against Dan Snyder. He's like, I now have amnesty.
So, like, the Rooney rule doesn't apply.

Speaker 1 He was like, hey, I want a legendary

Speaker 1 colt to come in and help turn this team around when he has Reggie Wayne, who knows the entire personnel who's on the coaching staff. He's like, nah, nah, nah.
Jeff Saturday. Yeah.
Jeff Saturday.

Speaker 1 I don't think people are prepared for what a bizarre experience this is about to be for Jeff Saturday. This is as close to Ted Lasso in the United States as we get.

Speaker 1 I'm going to bet the Colts. I'm going to bet the Colts.
First thing that I did was put a bet on the

Speaker 1 Colts. I have to.

Speaker 1 I got him at plus six. I think that line's actually moved.
Yeah. Now it's like plus seven now.
But it's going to be so entertaining to see him try to figure out how to run this team.

Speaker 1 He doesn't know how to call plays. He doesn't know the personnel.
He doesn't have a quarterback. He doesn't have a quarterback.
And they said immediately after they hired him,

Speaker 1 they're sticking with Sam, though. They made that announcement for him.
I don't know how he came to that conclusion, how much tape he was able to watch.

Speaker 1 On the defensive side, if you're John Fox, and really you're any coaching, anybody on this coaching staff, and you find out that they're hiring Jeff Saturday, you're probably looking around the room like, what?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Like, why? Huh? Why?

Speaker 1 He doesn't know anything about this. John Fox just probably just grabbed a bottle of beer and was like, fuck it.
Whatever. What are you going to say, Billy?

Speaker 1 I was just wondering, how how much are they paying Saturday?

Speaker 1 Probably a decent amount. Why would you get off the couch to get into a situation like that, which is going to be a good thing? What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 He just cuts the front of the line.

Speaker 1 He literally just cut to the front of the line. If Jeff Saturday does even a halfway good job with the Colts for the rest of the...

Speaker 1 If there's eight games left in the Colts season, I think if he goes four and four,

Speaker 1 he probably gets the job. He cut the line.
Like, he's never coached at any level higher than high school.

Speaker 1 Guys coach, I mean, poor Reggie Reggie Wayne is trying to fucking someday be a head coach, and Jeff Saturday just cut in front of everyone. Now he gets a job.
That's a no-brainer for him.

Speaker 1 But to tarnish your legacy, you're well-loved in Indianapolis. I think

Speaker 1 this team is terrible. I think

Speaker 1 there's nothing he could, if they just stay terrible, everyone's like, well, he had a no-win situation.

Speaker 1 It's actually the perfect. There's no way Jeff Saturday can lose because either he takes a job, the Colts still stink, and everyone's like, oh.
It's on Ursa. Yeah, it's on Ursa, and they still stink.

Speaker 1 And like, thanks for trying, Jeff.

Speaker 1 Or they somehow miraculously win a few games and everyone's like Jeff Saturday yeah my my conspiracy theory says that they hired Jeff Saturday because they want to hire Peyton Manning to run the team to be the GM in the future yeah and if they get buddy buddy they're they're buddy buddy they're quite literally butt buddies like Peyton Manning spent what 15 years with his in his ass his hand up Jeff Saturday's asshole so now Jeff Saturday is a real-life puppet of Peyton Manning as the head coach just to bring the rest of Peyton Manning's body from the wrist all the way back to be the to be the general manager and then the two of them run the team.

Speaker 1 I feel like this is going to hurt Colts fans and they're already down pretty bad but I feel like Peyton Manning likes the Broncos way more than the Colts. Doesn't he still live out in Denver?

Speaker 1 I feel like every time I see him he's wearing Broncos colors. I feel like he really likes the Broncos.
But he also might be miffed because

Speaker 1 they didn't bring him in to be general manager of the Broncos. Yeah.
If the Colts offered him to come in and be the general manager with Jeff.

Speaker 1 I feel like I think that actually is more to Billy's point. I wouldn't take that if I were Peyton Manning.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so no, here's what I was, if I was Peyton Manning, I would say it might work out perfectly actually for Jim Merce because check this out. Peyton Manning's a smart guy when it comes to football.

Speaker 1 You see him when he's on the Manning cast. He's calling out coverages.
He's calling plays. He's immediately calling timeouts when coaches should be calling timeouts and challenges.

Speaker 1 They get Jeff Saturday to coach the team in order to lure Peyton Manning in to be the general manager.

Speaker 1 Peyton Manning sees this happening and says, yes, I think I will be a general manager because that's what I want to do with my career from here on out.

Speaker 1 He joins the Colts, and he's like, Jeff Saturday stinks as a head coach. He's fired.
And then Peyton Manning hires a new manager. He wants to be the coach.
Gets to be the coach. He hires himself.

Speaker 1 Well, I don't know if he wants to coach. I think he wants to be like front off.
But Saturday might just be the bait

Speaker 1 to bring him in, and then they'll cast him aside. But if I were Peyton Manning, I would not take that job.
Because that is what Billy's talking about. You would potentially ruin your legacy.

Speaker 1 You would, like,

Speaker 1 in a situation where Peyton has all the money in the world, he has to work, you know, what, 10 times a year? And he can go to like Tennessee games. He can go to Broncos games.

Speaker 1 He can go to Colts' games. He's got the life.
Scott Frost. I would not want that.
I think he's competitive, though. Scott Frost.
Scott Frost. Like the return home.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, if you go back and it doesn't go well, I mean,

Speaker 1 I don't think anyone thinks... No, actually, yes, John L.
Way

Speaker 1 still is the greatest Bronco of all time, and every Bronco fan loves him. But it's definitely soured a little with how the Broncos have been.

Speaker 1 And he won a Super Bowl with them as a front front office guy. Well, which you don't get the next generation that still reveres you as a legend.
They only know you from what you've done to the team.

Speaker 1 It's the Phil Jackson in New York. But what about this?

Speaker 1 What if the full job is to get Saturday as head coach, knowing that he'll suck for the rest of this year, they get the first overall pick, and then the Colts yet again reload at quarterback?

Speaker 1 Bryce Young? Peyton Manning would probably

Speaker 1 look at that being like a favorable job to walk into. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, the only point of comparison is like Nick Mangold at Jet Stadium.

Speaker 1 Right now. What?

Speaker 1 Right now, Nick Mangold, everyone loves him. But if you're ever to become the head coach, like, he just bounces around the stadium every game.
Everyone loves him.

Speaker 1 He's like, his legacy is solidified in New York. But if he were to become head coach in a bad situation and it go really downhill, all those people.
It's already downhill, though. That's the point.

Speaker 1 It's already downhill. Right.
They're already a mess. Jeff Sattery's inheriting a mess.
So it's not his fault. But if it keeps being a mess.
Not his fault. It already was a mess.
He didn't change.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Like, he can't. No one's going to be like, Jeff Saturday really fucked this up.
This team is a complete dumpster fire. So it's, I don't think he can lose.

Speaker 1 Listen, I'm rooting for Jeff Saturday because it's going to be so fun to watch. And from all accounts, he's a really nice guy.
But he did. absolutely jump the line.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 He just, there's so many people out there that are on that staff that would have been a much better hire.

Speaker 1 And it is crazy to think about all the things that a coach has to do besides the X's and O's and calling plays during a game that he's never done before. Right.
Getting players to the bus on time.

Speaker 1 That scheduling stuff, like that's on a head coach. So that's what I'm saying.
Like, if they manage to get to kickoff, have a roster of 53-man men on the sideline, that will be impressive.

Speaker 1 Yeah, agreed on all that, Jeff Saturday. It's going to be weird.
The whole thing's going to be weird. I'm rooting for it.
And I'm taking the Colts. And I'm taking the Colts.

Speaker 1 All right, let's talk some college football.

Speaker 1 We're recording before the new rankings, but I would assume it's going to be Georgia 1, obviously. They'll probably do Ohio State 2, then Michigan and TCU 3-4.

Speaker 1 Tennessee, probably 5 right outside.

Speaker 1 It was a great college Saturday. LSU has...

Speaker 1 This is the part that sucks because we don't like Brian Kelly, but Brian Kelly has always been, objectively, just an incredible coach.

Speaker 1 And we all knew that this could be turned around that quickly because he is that good of a coach.

Speaker 1 And that win for them on Saturday night, beating Alabama in Baton Rouge for the first time in a decade,

Speaker 1 it's crazy because it's not like LSU the last, whatever, 10 years, they had 2019 one of the best teams of all time. But every other year, it's been Bama kind of kicking the shit out of them.

Speaker 1 Now they beat Bama without a team that's one of the best of all time. So like LSU fans can now think like, hey, maybe this is a new norm.

Speaker 1 Like that wasn't they have the greatest team and they beat Bama. That That was they were just like more disciplined, played a tougher game, and they found a way to win.

Speaker 1 And they put their ball, their nuts on the line for the two-point conversion. Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 1 It's like a, I don't know if I'm expressing it correctly, but it feels different because this now feels like it could be Brian Kelly could create a team at LSU that consistently can beat Alabama, not one year where you have this incredible, incredible team and talent.

Speaker 1 It's no, every year,

Speaker 1 LSU should be able to compete with Bama.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so it's a difference of being able to try to recruit players by saying we want guys that have a chip on their shoulder because we want to be able to start beating Bama. Right.

Speaker 1 To saying like, we want guys that are just the best. Right.

Speaker 1 And that's a pretty big difference because sometimes the guys that have a chip on their shoulder turns out they have a chip on their shoulder for a reason. Yes.
And maybe they're not.

Speaker 1 at that same level as the guys that they should be beating. So it's like

Speaker 1 it's more powerful to be like, we are better than them. Come here if you want to win.
Right.

Speaker 1 That's a much better way to recruit somebody than being like, come here if you want to change the culture so that we can win. Right.

Speaker 1 And it's crazy to say, but LSU could be in the college football playoff. If they went out, I think they would probably get in.

Speaker 1 And Tennessee fans would riot, and they would probably have a very fair case because they did go to LSU and beat them. You think a two-loss LSU team would get in over a one-loss Tennessee team?

Speaker 1 If the other things broke a certain way, yeah. Because I think it would be Ohio State or Michigan.
TCU complicates everything. If TCU runs the table, it complicates everything.

Speaker 1 Whoever they're playing, it's like final destination for whoever team quarterback is. Right, right.
And they play Texas, Baylor, and at home against Iowa State.

Speaker 1 I don't think they'll run the table, but let's just say they do.

Speaker 1 Now you have an LSU team that

Speaker 1 the committee always takes into account winning your conference, an LSU team that beat Bama, an LSU team that then beat Georgia, and it's like, what have you done for me lately?

Speaker 1 That FSU game feels like like forever ago. I think it'd be pretty tough.
I think it would be pretty tough to, because it would be like the ending of their season. Yeah.

Speaker 1 They would have racked up these big wins. And you also have to ask, like, who's playing the best football right now? Right.
And I think if LSU.

Speaker 1 And Tennessee fans, again, would have every right to be upset. So if LSU, if they beat Georgia in the SEC championship, I do tend to agree that they'd probably get in over a one-lost Tennessee team.

Speaker 1 And that would be, it would be the ultimate, like both sides have a good point where Tennessee fans could be like, we kicked the shit out of you.

Speaker 1 Like we beat the absolute dog shit out of LSU in Baton Rouge.

Speaker 1 But then LSU would be able to say like, well, we just fucked up Georgia

Speaker 1 that made you look like a high school team.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 it's a big snake eating its tail.

Speaker 1 And it also would all happen at the end of the season where if you get to the end of the season and let's say LSU is ranked fifth or sixth and Tennessee's not playing in the SEC championship game and LSU is,

Speaker 1 they jump because they would beat the number one team in the country. Again, I don't think it's right, but I'm just saying there's a path for LSU to get to the college football playoff.
I also,

Speaker 1 I do think the Pac-12, unless like one of them really slips up, I think they probably will get a team in this year because I was thinking about it more.

Speaker 1 Oregon has a tough time because they played Georgia, got smoked, and Tennessee also played Georgia, got smoked by a little bit less, even though if you watch both games, Georgia was

Speaker 1 leaps better than both teams. But if

Speaker 1 UCLA or USC runs the table, it would be very interesting.

Speaker 1 I think the committee would probably take one of them because USC would have their worst loss is a one-point loss to Utah at Utah, and then they racked up at the end of the season, a win against UCLA, top 10 team, a win against Notre Dame, top 25 team, and then a win against Oregon in the Pac-12 championship game, top 10 team.

Speaker 1 If you do the same for UCLA, they would beat USC, and then they would also revenge their sole loss, which the committee always loves, revenging your loss against Oregon in the Pac-12 championship game.

Speaker 1 I think the Pac-12 might be back, unless they fuck it up, which they obviously have to be able to do that. I think that Washington's going to beat Oregon this weekend, though.

Speaker 1 Washington has not been good. I think they're going to beat Oregon this weekend.
They have not been good recently. What about?

Speaker 1 That team has...

Speaker 1 They had that moment. That was one of those situations where Washington beat Michigan State, and everyone thought Michigan State was better than they were.

Speaker 1 And then you got farther down the line and you're like, oh, Michigan State is garbage. Oh, maybe Washington is as well because they went and got punked by UCLA.

Speaker 1 I think they won, but closely against Oregon State last weekend. What were you going to say, Jake?

Speaker 5 What about Ohio State and Michigan getting in if they play close?

Speaker 1 That would be crazy. The problem with that is, is Michigan played an absolute dog shit non-conference.

Speaker 1 And the only way that I think it could have worked is if Michigan played a better non-conference and they lost close to Ohio State in Columbus, and you could make the argument, well, they're a one-lost team and they're only losses against Ohio State in a road environment.

Speaker 5 Or if Michigan wins.

Speaker 1 If Michigan wins, but then it's the reverse where Ohio State, you just lost at home. Yeah.
So it's, I, I obviously want the Big Ten to have two teams in.

Speaker 5 Can you imagine if they played a national championship game?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, it would be incredible, but it's just, it's actually,

Speaker 1 weirdly enough,

Speaker 1 I love the tradition of college football, but Michigan and Ohio State should think about playing this game in like early October because it actually hurts them to play it this late stage dude UNC and basketball in the final four in Ohio State Michigan in the championship game the same year that'd be wild UNC's got it they're they're like on the very outside

Speaker 1 but agent of chaos because they only have one loss UNC would be I'm confident in saying the worst team to ever make the college football playoff if they get it

Speaker 1 Michigan State got Michigan State like didn't get a first down against that was bad Washington also Washington had a really bad one against Alabama that one year yeah

Speaker 1 no I think I think this UNC team would be worse. They've got a good quarterback, but their defense, I think, is just ⁇ it's like slapstick comedy.
They only have one loss. It's slapstick comedy.

Speaker 1 No, I agree. Watching them try to play defense.

Speaker 1 Also, that'd be very funny if somehow, if they won a college football playoff game, and then you've got Gus Malzon in the championship game, and Gus Malzon gets another big job next year. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He has another ring on his finger. So I think

Speaker 1 it's going to depend on the weather,

Speaker 1 the Ohio State, Michigan game. Because if it's bad weather, Michigan, I think, can steamroll them

Speaker 1 by playing their brand of football, which is just basically we're going to punch you in the mouth. I think it's going to be a close game to matter.

Speaker 1 If it's good weather, I feel like Ohio State can just throw the ball.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Michigan has a fucking, they just are a tough, tough team.

Speaker 1 Either way, we are at the point in college football season where we stress about all this stuff, we get anxious about all this stuff, everyone, all fan bases are upset and making their case, and it will all work itself out.

Speaker 1 It should. Someone will catch a loss we didn't see coming.
Unless LSU wins two games. Yeah.
But no, but then what I'm saying is, like, say, LSU wins out, right? Yep.

Speaker 1 The Pac-12 is notorious for cannibalizing themselves and fucking themselves over, where it's like USC will beat UCLA and then lose to Notre Dame and then beat Oregon and the Pac-12 will eliminate itself.

Speaker 1 Like these things always kind of find a way to shake themselves out.

Speaker 1 The one thing that you have to root for if you're a Tennessee fan or a Michigan-Ohio State fan to have a shot at this thing is you need TCU to lose.

Speaker 1 Because TCU going undefeated, they're in no matter what. Yeah.
And it's just one thing. And they might just win weird games, but they just keep winning.
And that's Clemson is fucked.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Clemson's out. That's bad.
Bad Clemson. It's a bad Clemson.
Clemson is doubt. Alabama's out, which is crazy.
This is the earliest they've been out.

Speaker 1 I think I saw the stat. This is the first time Alabama will be playing a regular season game without a chance to go to the national title since like since Sabin got there or since 2010.

Speaker 1 I'm really looking forward to Nick Saban

Speaker 1 doing like the simulcast in the college football playoff this year.

Speaker 1 If they haven't been one of those coaches that sits in the room while they're all eating pizza and like just so bitter, like, why am I not here right now?

Speaker 1 It's also so funny because the expectations of where Alabama is as a program, when you actually look at their season objectively, take a step back. Yeah, they could have lost to Texas.

Speaker 1 They could have lost to Texas AM. Their two losses are on the road by a buzzer beater field goal and a two-point conversion.
Like, you can't lose closer than they've lost.

Speaker 1 Like, they are two plays away from being undefeated, same old Alabama. So, it is funny to look at being like, Alabama's trash.
Like, what happened to Alabama?

Speaker 1 And then you're like, well, they played in two very, very tough environments and almost won both games by like the,

Speaker 1 you know, a very, very small one.

Speaker 1 Counterpoint, they're supposed to be BAM. Yeah, they are.
But it's just very funny to think about it. It's like you lost on a two-point conversion and a Tennessee field goal.

Speaker 1 any other any other school would be like that was an awesome season I was I was watching a YouTube video the other day about that uh the crazy 2007 college football season that we like to talk about a lot um you know that they offered Rich Rodriguez to be the head coach of Alabama after that season because he had installed the read option at West Virginia and he turned them down to he was like no I'm gonna I don't I feel like I've got more work to do here at West Virginia yeah and then he eventually obviously went to Michigan but he turned down the Alabama that's how down bad Alabama

Speaker 1 used to be. They were down bad.

Speaker 1 And then there's that one story about what's his name?

Speaker 1 Coach Price, I think the guy's name was where they hired him in the offseason, and then he spent the entire offseason just like going to strip clubs and using the Alabama corporate credit card.

Speaker 1 And they had to fire him immediately. Yes.

Speaker 1 Because Alabama,

Speaker 1 they've been a great team since Sabin's been there, but man, they were down real bad for like, I don't know, what, like seven, eight years before he got there?

Speaker 1 Nick Sabin, it's I think I said the stat. We do so many shows, I can't remember.
I think I said the stat on pick a button Nick Sabin in his time

Speaker 1 in the SEC with Alabama, so since 2007, I want to say, because Brian Harson just got fired. All the other SEC teams combined, how many coaches have they had since Nick Saban got there?

Speaker 1 Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 42.

Speaker 1 You were in the room when I said this, trivia. Yeah, he just said pick.

Speaker 1 But it's just funny because you were in the room. I'm guessing 42.
53. Oh, wow.
It's crazy. All the other teams went through 53 head coaches while Nick Saban has just reigned over everyone.

Speaker 1 That's kind of wild. And now we get what we've always wanted.
We want new colors. Could you imagine a college football playoff with Georgia,

Speaker 1 Michigan, TCU, and UCLA? That's some cool colors. I can't imagine that.
That's some cool colors. I mean,

Speaker 1 Georgia by 500. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Also, Bama Clemson could be a New Year six game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, which actually actually they should do. Orange Bowl or Sugar Bowl? Oh, yeah.
The projections are out, and I'm just so excited for bull season. I fucking love college football.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's Bulls, Arizona Bowl. Yeah, Barcelona, Arizona Bull.
MAC versus Mountain West.

Speaker 1 Anything else, college football? Three more weeks. Sad.
Three more regular season weeks. Feels like it just started a second ago.
Memes' jaws on the floor when I just said that. Very sad.

Speaker 1 Your Colorado Buffalo is not so good, memes.

Speaker 1 Memes is just sitting there.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's do hot seat, cool throw, and then we'll get to Ryan Whitney, NHL preview, and then Jared Goff, one question with the quarterback.

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Speaker 1 Hank, hot seat, cool throw.

Speaker 2 My hot seat is people running rigged lottery ball machines.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 There's been a lot of that going around lately. A lot of interesting, you know, statistics out there.
People not winning the lottery ball, the Powerball I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 Somebody won it, actually.

Speaker 2 But that was after.

Speaker 1 It took them a while, but they eventually won it.

Speaker 2 The

Speaker 2 California lottery announced late on Monday night, everyone was waiting for it, $1.9 billion, that they're delaying the drawing because officials need more time to complete protocols.

Speaker 2 And they didn't live stream it. They just put the video up after the fact on YouTube.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Powerball rigged.

Speaker 2 Powerball rigged. That's very suspect.

Speaker 2 Biggest Powerball in history.

Speaker 1 It sucks. I went out, i bought i bought five tickets i was gonna split them up i was gonna distribute i was gonna double i was gonna distribute my winnings you won yeah i was gonna match

Speaker 1 how would you do that if i would i wouldn't yeah yeah obviously i wouldn't be able to why doesn't anybody

Speaker 1 know if the ravens and eagles both win the super bowl why doesn't anybody ever take the uh the annuity the annuity which is like you know that you split you get the full amount of the jackpot but you spread it out over 20 years that way

Speaker 1 i would personally take that because i wouldn't be able to go broke i think your family doesn't get it if you die, right?

Speaker 1 There was an older woman who did it and put it in her will so the family wouldn't all blow it at one time. But do you get it if you get the annuity? Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I thought the powerball fucked you like that.

Speaker 1 Well, I think the real reason is because if you take the lump sum, then you can theoretically invest it and you would make way more money year over year if you just put it in like a... Inflation.

Speaker 1 What if you just took it to the bank? Yeah. Actually, Bobby Bunille's deal, bad.
Yeah, real bad.

Speaker 1 He should have taken that money up front and then invested it in the Will Pons guy who who I heard was making a ton of money. Bernie.
Bernie Madoff at the time. That's a burn dog.

Speaker 1 By the way, when I see that the Snyders are dealing with Bank of America to try to sell the Commanders,

Speaker 1 pardon me is like, what a bunch of broke boys. Like Bank of America? Yeah.

Speaker 1 What are they going with their fucking debit card? Yeah, I have to get it out. I have a Bank of America.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's not a rich person. You've got to use Goldman Sachs.
Or something like Swiss something. Yeah, just say Swiss Bank of America.
Suisse. S-U-I-S-S-E.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 that one. Like a company that advertises at Wimbledon is what I'm looking for.
Right, yeah.

Speaker 1 You want it to be Wimbledon or Tiger Woods Bank. Yeah.
That's it.

Speaker 1 Anyways, I think you win the lottery. Oh, yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 1 If you put the money after taxes into a savings account and just it gets 0.016 the average saving account's return per year, you'd get a

Speaker 1 million and a half a year. That's kind of chump change, though.
Like, I've already got broke

Speaker 1 dollars. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's for two million. Yeah.
Just conservatively.

Speaker 1 But what about if you buy apes?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You should convert it.

Speaker 1 I was thinking, here's a great idea.

Speaker 1 It just popped in my head this morning because people were talking about the election. They should make voting entering into a lottery.
So one person gets $2 billion.

Speaker 1 One person who votes. Oh, I think it should be reversed.
I think it should be they should make voting into a lottery.

Speaker 1 You just randomly, one person gets picked to be the president. That's what they used to do in ancient ancient Greece.
It was called sortition. Yeah, it's way better.

Speaker 1 And then that person would have to be the leader of whatever nation-state that was. So it made people invest a lot of money into education.

Speaker 1 Any one of these people could end up ruling all of us. Imagine Billy being our president.
I was off by a zero. It's actually...

Speaker 1 We just say, no, we knew that there was something wrong with this. Just one zero.
Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay, Hank.

Speaker 2 My cool throne, Bill Belichick, Tom Brady. This is a football podcast, greatest coach, greatest player of all time.

Speaker 1 Are you just saying just like in general?

Speaker 2 No, they've been in the media. They've basically just been gushing about each other.

Speaker 2 It's kind of like the Skip and Stephen A situation where they're separated, but they're doing these press interviews and they're going out of their way to compliment each other.

Speaker 2 So I'll just read these two quotes because obviously both of them are breaking records, accomplishing things, and then they get asked about it.

Speaker 2 And this tension that the media, you know, PFT and his dad would like to

Speaker 2 fanfic and say that they hated each other and that was the reason they left. Sure.
These quotes would lead you to believe otherwise. So I'll go with Tom first.

Speaker 2 Asked about Bill when he broke the win record. He said, we've had 20 years together of elite football experience.
I wouldn't have traded for anything in the world. I know he's a great competitor.

Speaker 2 What an amazing coach he is and how he prepares his team to win. And he's just done it year in, year out.

Speaker 2 The fact that he's 22 wins away from an amazing milestone, I have no doubt he's going to get it.

Speaker 2 And I just watch that team every week and I'm impressed by how they prepare, the accountability that that organization has. It starts at the top.

Speaker 2 And then Bill, when talking about Brady having 100,000 yards, he said, tremendous accomplishment, his longevity, his accuracy, consistency, just doing so many things right in the passing game for so long.

Speaker 2 Phenomenal accomplishment. I'm really happy for him.
Nobody deserves it more than he does. He's worked extremely hard and is just very good at what he does.
Amazing stat.

Speaker 2 I don't even know how far 100,000 yards is. It must be a long way.
I don't know how many miles. I have no idea.

Speaker 1 56 miles. But that's a great accomplishment.

Speaker 2 Wow. 56.
So just, you know, just

Speaker 1 touching stuff from the greatest

Speaker 1 to the greatest of all time.

Speaker 1 I think it's nice, Hank. I also think it's sweet how you're reading into this.
Like, you're trying to parent-trap them. You're basically Lindsey Lohan in this situation, and you're hoping to get Tom.

Speaker 1 I think Hank's going to try to schedule an interview for Tom Brady and Bill Belichick at the same time. And not tell

Speaker 1 them that they're coming to the studio

Speaker 1 and hope that they fall in love and start making out. Wow.

Speaker 2 Now, that's some fanfic that I can get behind.

Speaker 1 All right, PFT, your hot seat cool, Toronto. My hot seat is Black Mirror.
Okay. It's on the hot seat because it's really becoming true life.

Speaker 1 There's an Oculus developer, a virtual reality developer, that created a game that kills you in real life if you die in the game. Mm-hmm.
Which

Speaker 1 I kind of want to play this game. I don't want to play it.
I want to watch someone play it. I want to play this game.
I want to watch someone risk their own life and then watch a death.

Speaker 1 But what if it was like...

Speaker 2 What if you murder? Like, what if you're the murderer in the game?

Speaker 1 No, no, it's set up so the headset will make your brain molecules explode. Yeah.
It's got like an explosive charge

Speaker 1 That if you die in the game, then what game is there like a video game or any

Speaker 1 activity that you would have to do and have to do perfectly or else you would die if you failed? Ooh.

Speaker 1 Do they count to ten? Scroll Twitter while taking a shit.

Speaker 1 I could do that perfectly. That's pretty good.
I could do that perfectly.

Speaker 1 Oh, I could definitely know when an over is fucked in like a college basketball or college college football game or if i and if i die i could definitely know that i think

Speaker 1 i think i could change the channel from fox to cbs right before they were about to come back from commercial break on an nfl sunday that would be tough or else i die do you think you could do you think you pick a lottery lottery ball a non-rigged one if we gave you 99 numbers i still think you'd lose

Speaker 1 I actually have a theory that Hank's purposely not picking it. Well, that's just as hard.
No, no, it's not. Because

Speaker 1 if you look at the balls,

Speaker 1 it rotates.

Speaker 1 So if you pick one that's on the outside, it's less likely to be. He's been picking 17, though, every time.
So, how does your theory fall apart right now?

Speaker 1 You're giving Hank way too much. But 17 moves around.
If you wanted to, I think you could avoid picking the right ball. Jake, okay, so try it.
Okay. All right, great.

Speaker 1 Can I get some money on that action? No. No.
See how long you can go. See if you can go two years.
We know you can't eat the chicken, so go two years.

Speaker 1 Go two years without getting it right. No, No, because I like winning.
Okay, so

Speaker 1 you can't do it. But you could.

Speaker 1 Well, you can't.

Speaker 1 If you see witch balls go up into the thing with the sucker. But you can't.
Billy, you said you can't. I think it's so random once they start moving around that you're going to be like that.

Speaker 1 Billy, Billy, if you don't get it for the next two years, I'll give you $5,000. Yeah, but I want to get it.
So you can't.

Speaker 1 So this is a dumb conversation.

Speaker 1 I bet I could do it for three weeks. Oh, yeah, no shit.

Speaker 1 Oh man, I've done that hundreds of times.

Speaker 1 We've all done it.

Speaker 1 I just offered you five grand. You said you wanted it on the action.
Five grand if you don't get it for two years.

Speaker 1 Anyways, my cool throne is

Speaker 1 accountability

Speaker 1 because Set Blatter has finally put his hand up and said, hey, guys, my bad. Sorry about the whole Qatar World Cup.

Speaker 1 He admitted that awarding Qatar the World Cup was a mistake because they didn't have the infrastructure and it's very hot in Qatar. Things that he could not have known when he chose to give them

Speaker 1 the World Cup. What was that, like 10 years ago or whatever? So that's on him.
That's his fault. Yeah.
At least we won't have to deal with it. Yeah.
Yeah. Well,

Speaker 1 yeah. At least you guys won't have to deal with it.

Speaker 1 Okay. My hot seat is all the listeners who didn't buy an ugly sweater today because for 24 hours, the Barstool Sports Store has our ugly sweaters, Christmas ugly sweaters.

Speaker 1 Billy's wearing one that's great. I think he designed it.
It's actually memes actually did. Shout out memes.
Shout out memes. Football guy, 20% off for 24 hours.

Speaker 1 My personal favorite is the Frank raw dogging one.

Speaker 1 I like that one. Yeah.
Yeah. That one will get you laid for sure.
And the Wada Wada one. The Wadawada one is so sick.
That is so sick. So go buy it right now.
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Speaker 1 You're on the hot seat if you don't buy it. Get it.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 You buy them now. You can have them for your ugly sweater party.

Speaker 1 This one says, I saw mommy kissing Zach Wilson. Oh, like nice.
So watch your moms. And then

Speaker 1 you let Zach Wilson sleep with your mom.

Speaker 1 You know what, man? You know what? You're worried about Ellinger.

Speaker 1 Facts, Jake. From the clouds.

Speaker 1 My cool throne is

Speaker 1 two and on. What?

Speaker 1 What's this trophy? Oh, it's the Heartland trophy. It's Iowa versus Wisconsin playing for a bull with a huge nutsack.

Speaker 1 Where'd it come from? These guys I met at Michigan, Michigan State, they make replica trophies. Pretty fucking cool.
Rivalry trophies. Shout out.

Speaker 1 No free shout-outs, but I don't think Barcelona's ever going to get in the trophy business. No.
So, yeah, they gave me, they actually gave, I met him week two at Iowa.

Speaker 1 They gave me the Scihawk, and it's just been sitting in my car since. So, and then every time my son gets in the car, he's just like, what is this?

Speaker 1 I'm like, it's when Iowa and Iowa State play first to 12 every year, and it's fucking awesome. My cool throne is two and on.
Jake, I told you before we got in here, I made another bet.

Speaker 1 Two to win the MVP 16 to 1. Wow.
What's going to.

Speaker 1 If Josh Allen,

Speaker 1 this is also based, like, I hope Josh Allen's not hurt, but if he is hurt, Tua feels like he's got a lot of, a lot of, like, people feel bad about the concussions.

Speaker 1 He's going to have some lot of numbers. They don't.
What if they go undefeated when Tua starts and finishes? There's a lot of juice behind Tua. Tua's got a lot of juice, PFT.

Speaker 1 Come in with me. Come on.
Problem is,

Speaker 1 Jalen Hurts is probably going to be. I agree.
I agree.

Speaker 1 I think if it's not Josh Allen, it's probably Hurts. Wouldn't it be fun, though? It would be fun, yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, come on, you can join join me it would be very 16 to 10 unfortunately i've already got a future that i put in a long time ago on derrick henry just banking on tractor sito season count for something shout out that guy i don't know if you guys saw the tweet from last week uh some random dude uh who was banned on twitter obviously for trying to attack people who don't believe in tua had a handwritten uh list of all the people that were against tua non it was like a hundred people i was on the list i was crossed out

Speaker 1 yeah only crossed out name so i've seen the light but that type of fandom is to be commended. I like that.

Speaker 1 It's a complete psychopath move, but I honestly, I respect the fact that he paid close enough. That guy must do nothing but listen to podcasts.
Yeah. And just take down notes.
Everything from Wales.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's a guy from Wales. So yeah, he probably does listen to nothing but podcasts.
All right, Billy. My hot seat is Matt Patricia and specifically the Patriots offense.

Speaker 1 So Belchek commented that he thought that CJ Mosley and Shaq Leonard, the past two weeks, were new the offensive plays before they even got out of the huddle.

Speaker 1 He doesn't know how it happened, but many are saying that sounds like Matt Patricia leaking some stuff. Matt Patricia may be just calling a very predictable offense.

Speaker 1 He's got a lot of tells. It's like an Astros pitcher.
They really should go get Frank Ray. Like, why not? Guy knows how to call offense.

Speaker 1 I mean, if you look at the Patriots' history, they tend to do what Alabama does for coaches that get fired. They just, they collect old coaches in Belichick.

Speaker 1 Belichick's like he goes to the antique store. He's like,

Speaker 1 I could use one of these.

Speaker 1 I could buff out the scratches in this one. Yeah, give me a Brett Bealam and a Joe Judge.
Just join the staff.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they're big time. Like, they're just on the staff.

Speaker 1 The more mindset are the better.

Speaker 2 And then they go somewhere else.

Speaker 1 Yeah, throwing them in. It's like Chiano? Yeah, bring him in.
Yeah, it's like throwing in a couple munchkins in the donut box. Like, yeah, just throw a Matt Patricia in there.
I'll take one of those.

Speaker 1 We'll see what he can do.

Speaker 1 And my cool throne is Jet's coin guy. So we did the

Speaker 1 intrinsic investigation of whether he posted multiple and went into like Twitter backlogs type stuff and found out that he only posted it once. Great.

Speaker 1 Vindication. Vindication.
Vication. I think it's had to clear that up.
I thought it was clean because there would be so many different combinations that he would have had to post.

Speaker 1 It would have been quite an endeavor. I almost would have respected it more if it had been fake.
The thing is, accounts in the past have done that with different teams.

Speaker 1 And posted literally thousands of people. You know, people lock their accounts and then they go unprivate right as the Super Bowl happens.
They're like, look, I had it.

Speaker 1 Delete all their tweets. We're clearing his name.
We did the investigation. So, unfortunately, the Jets are going to the AFC championship game, but losing the Patriots next week.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I should do that with my account. I should go, I should stay private, but now tweet out all the possible combinations.

Speaker 1 You have all the Super Bowl champions, and then after the Super Bowl, reveal myself to everybody. Have everyone retweet it.
Yeah. Okay, Jake.

Speaker 5 My hot seat is Novak Djokovic.

Speaker 5 His team was spotted creating what we're calling a magic potion.

Speaker 1 It was water.

Speaker 5 And they gave it to him on the court.

Speaker 1 So you witch hunt now? Are you a witch hunter? I'm just saying. Okay.

Speaker 5 He was asked about it during Wimbledon, and it happened again this week. And he called it a magic potion.

Speaker 1 I saw it, and Jokovich just, somebody handed him a water bottle and he drank it.

Speaker 1 I don't think that Jokovich would put anything in his body that somebody else had created and mixed together without his knowledge. This is a witch hunt.
This is a witch hunt.

Speaker 1 And let me ask you a question, Jake.

Speaker 1 Do we drink when we have bottles of water that are not

Speaker 1 paying for part of my take, like branding,

Speaker 1 what do we do with it? We rip the tag off. Right, exactly.
We get it. Oh, that's body armor.
Yes, body armor. That's okay.

Speaker 1 It was the last time they wrote me a check. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying, is Djokovic maybe not giving free ads? We should commend that as podcasters. No free ads.

Speaker 5 He was also, there was a video of him inhaling a bottle.

Speaker 1 What? What do you mean, inhaling? Like, so he has asthma and you're shaming that now too? Never. I would never.
No, no, no. Oh, you have asthma? No, I don't think so.
You probably do.

Speaker 1 What do you mean he was inhaling? He had an inhaler or he just drank it quickly or he did a line of water. He was like sniffing the bottle.
It was probably smelling salts, Jake. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It definitely was smelling salts. This is a up.
So we've proven that Jake is just witch hunting. This is sad.
Sad state of affairs. Sad state of affairs to go after the goat like this.

Speaker 1 All right, Jake, your cool throne.

Speaker 5 My cool throne's Adam Schefter. He did his Kirk Cousins impersonation, and it went viral.

Speaker 1 He looked good.

Speaker 1 He looked like you, Jake.

Speaker 1 I got so many ties. Yeah.
No, he looked good.

Speaker 1 I was proud of Shefty because he took his shirt off, and that's not easy to do in front of national television, and he looked good. Nipples were out and everything.

Speaker 2 Booker was mean to you again.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Booker's just mean to me.

Speaker 1 He just is like, if you stopped eating donuts, you could maybe look like this. So the thing about Schefter is

Speaker 1 he's really come out of his shell in the last few years, which I'm proud of him for doing. Yes.

Speaker 1 Because before, I think he was like a a robot. Yeah.
And now it's like, okay,

Speaker 1 he's got a little bit of a personality. I just think that, I don't know, I might become a chain guy because like Kirk Cousins looks awesome in a chain.
We thought he was a dork.

Speaker 1 Adam Schefter, also a dork, looks great in a chain.

Speaker 1 I think that chains can really, they can turn anybody into a sexum. Yeah.
I'm a Spanx guy now. That's nice.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's good. I'm wearing Spanks.

Speaker 1 You know, someone tipped me off at LSU.

Speaker 1 I don't want to reveal it because he probably doesn't want to say that he's a Spanks guy. But, yeah, I'm a Spanks guy now.
Keeps everything tight. Brandon Walker.
You like that?

Speaker 1 No, it wasn't Brandon Walker. Spanks.
It's like an undershirt, but it's a little tighter. Shaq? No.
I'll bet you Shaq's a Spanks guy. Yeah, he probably is.
He's definitely a Spanks guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're probably intimidated now. He's ripped.
Shaq?

Speaker 1 Why? Have you seen him recently?

Speaker 1 He makes so much money.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Maybe he is.
He's jacked right now. Okay.
I think he's just big, but I mean, that man, he eats. He does eat.
He loves loves to eat.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's do Ryan Whitney. Ryan Whitney, also a little fun Easter.
We did a bonus ball lottery ball machine, so you'll get one there. See if Hank wins.

Speaker 1 And there's a bonus Easter egg because we recorded it last week. So you get to hear Max cheering for a Philly's home run in game three.
So that's fun.

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Speaker 1 Here is Ryan Whitney.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 we now welcome on our good friend, recurring guest, recurring guest Hall of Famer, one of the very first

Speaker 1 in the history part of my take. Well, no, we need to put that to a vote.
We fit that got a little over. No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 If we were going Hall of Fame, I I think Hank once looked it up, and I think Whitney is top five appearances. Top five?

Speaker 1 Oh, Mike. I thought you were saying

Speaker 1 three. No, no, no.
I'm saying in terms of most appearances in the seven-year history of the Hall of Fame. I know, I would say this is my

Speaker 1 17th.

Speaker 1 You just made that up. I was going to say seven at a time.
Because I said seven because you're picking up.

Speaker 1 I'd say, including Times On with Biz, and maybe the time you guys came on our show, I've come on your show 10, and you've come on ours once. Thanks a lot.
I would say. We never get invited.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I didn't think I'd be any lower than invited one time, and I think I went on that one time. I'm batting a thousand.
Who shows up to all these streams whenever Grinnell? I know Grinnell.

Speaker 1 I know what you're doing, too. You're having Grinnell text me instead of you text me, and then so it's like, I feel better.
Well, you know why?

Speaker 1 I don't want to be the guy that only texts someone when they need something. Right.

Speaker 1 Big cat. Yeah, I've rectified that.
I rectified that. I did rectify that.
Well, you called yourself out, so I. Yeah, no, I texted Dan Heron.
I've been texting him too much.

Speaker 1 Like, I've been sending him a meme of money. So if he were to look at the message from you, it's just like, hey, man, what's up? Yeah, no.
Think about coming on.

Speaker 1 Dude, anytime I see anything Lakers-related, I just send it to him.

Speaker 1 He's probably so annoyed that he ever said that. Yeah, you're like, I'll text this guy into oblivion

Speaker 1 just to make sure. I'll get it.
I think if we just go based purely on the numbers, it is probably like you, Mr. Portnoy,

Speaker 1 Lenny Dykstra. Yeah, maybe

Speaker 1 what a duo compared to.

Speaker 1 I mean, those four guys. Mr.
Portnoy. Is Lenny Dykstra in prison? No.
No.

Speaker 1 He hasn't been in jail in like two years. Over two years.
Charlotte's Man and Me. That's a hell of a crew right there.

Speaker 1 You hide your girl when that crew comes. You're probably the best hockey player.

Speaker 1 So first time I remember coming on the first time because I started listening to your show. I remember where I was first episode I ever listened to when it was a clear.
Was it before you were

Speaker 1 in Barcelona? Yeah. Yeah.
You were still playing hockey.

Speaker 1 I want to say I in Sweden. Chicklets had.

Speaker 1 Wow, no, I wasn't playing hockey when your guys' show started. Because we texted when you were in Sweden, I remember, your last year, your career.

Speaker 1 Well, we'll have to go back to the day.

Speaker 1 What's the first episode when the audio was a joke, and I think Long came on? Yeah.

Speaker 1 When was that?

Speaker 1 That was the second March of the first ever episode. 2006, 2006.
Okay, I was retired.

Speaker 1 And Chicklett's actually began. I think we had, R.A.
and I had already done an episode, maybe. We might have beat you guys, but we began.
No, don't know what we're doing. Okay, maybe

Speaker 1 February 17th. Some rewriting me.
You know what? Hold on. I started telling this story.

Speaker 1 I started telling this story.

Speaker 1 I started telling this story to compliment you guys. So don't interrupt me by calling me Will Compton, for Christ's sake.
I don't wear those new balance.

Speaker 1 I don't wear those shitty, that shitty dad bought out 50 years.

Speaker 1 I love Will. So I remember going, I remember listening to the first episode.
I remember you asked me to go on before my first, our oldest was born.

Speaker 1 And I remember just sitting in my room and we were, I was bashing basketball. I was giving

Speaker 1 basketball the boots. And

Speaker 1 it feels like, that feels like 20 years ago. What was it, Jake? Jake has the exact date.
What does it say? June 8th, 2016.

Speaker 1 So I'm going to say, if Chickots, if we'd never recorded an episode, which I think we already had, we started like January of 17. You might have done, yeah.

Speaker 1 I specifically remember because we talked to you and you were asking about Hank and you taught us about gas and beers and chucking nuts down at the same time. Wow, yeah,

Speaker 1 yeah, gas and beers and chucking nuts. I've never done the second one, but I'll gas a bit.
So that was June 2016.

Speaker 1 Then I remembered right after that, maybe like three weeks after that, I moved up to New York. And this is really before like anybody, like my face wasn't out there at all.

Speaker 1 I was trying to stay behind the scenes, away from cameras, all that stuff.

Speaker 1 I get up to New York, I go out to eat, and the very first restaurant that I go to here in New York, when I move here in June, the waiter comes up to me, and he's wearing a gas and beers and Chuck and Nuck shirt.

Speaker 1 No shit. And I was like, what the fuck? We probably sold like 10 of those.
Yeah. You're like, I made it.
Yeah. And then I was like, Or did I make it? That's kind of, I guess it's your shit.

Speaker 1 You made it. I made it through you guys.
You made it. We just, we made it popular.
Yeah. We popularized.
But now you guys have a cheese and now we have the vodka.

Speaker 1 It's kind of crazy where things have gone, boys. That was going to be my first question for you: is like, can you educate us on how to sell out properly?

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 you've done it.

Speaker 1 What you do is you get a fan base, and you say all these things to gain that fan base.

Speaker 1 And then if somebody offers you money to say different things that go against what you said to get the fan base, you're willing to sell out.

Speaker 1 That's so you got, you guys, you guys are you guys jumped to Charcoal.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 You know what? You guys are bigger sellouts than me. The only real actually, I don't know about sellouts.
Oh, yeah, I don't know about that.

Speaker 1 Zach Wilson already gone. Oh, yes.
Yes. I listened to the shows, boys.
It was the biggest sellout right here. Wait, wait, how did I sell out? Wait, you threw him on your business.

Speaker 1 You'd rather the guy, Ellinger, who started one game.

Speaker 1 You said he'd be. And I gave him a take back.
I know, you gave him a take. I gave him a fair.
Because sometimes we say things and we don't realize it. I gave him a fair take back and he said no.

Speaker 1 Try to say that you didn't say, if you could choose, you chose Ellinger. You did.
I gave you the takeout option. You didn't do it.
Look at what I I said. I said, I just would prefer less interception.

Speaker 1 No, no, Billy. No, no, no, no, no, no.
Billy, Billy,

Speaker 1 Billy.

Speaker 1 I intentionally asked this question to put you inside that. Yeah, you know, you made him answer.

Speaker 1 I made you answer, and you said Sam Ellinger. And then Big Cat offered you an emergency parachute.
The whole thing. And you said, no, fuck it.
Cool room, stop. Yeah, because I.
And to be fair,

Speaker 1 no one's giving me any money. So I'm not selling it.
So to be fair to Billy, I think Billy doesn't love Sam Ellinger as much as he loves his own take that he thinks that Sam Ellinger.

Speaker 1 Oh, and and he also knows Zach Wilson's thinks. Yeah, that's what he's realizing.
No, what about you? No, but

Speaker 1 he hasn't learned to throw away correctly. Right, right.

Speaker 1 What about you? Where we, I know we grill Hank all the time, but is Mac your guy? Uh,

Speaker 1 no. Okay.

Speaker 1 I would say I would

Speaker 1 it's

Speaker 1 really hard to talk right now. It's really hard to talk about that team after the 20 years.
And it's just like, that's a fact. Hank's struggling.

Speaker 1 But what I see in championship quarterbacks, it's just he doesn't even come close to that. So to me, it's like to win a Super Bowl, he's

Speaker 1 not even close to that. But there's only like four guys who are.
So it's

Speaker 1 true. And none of you.
I mean, your guy sucks. No, he doesn't.
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 Your guy sucks. No, he doesn't.
Your guy sucks. No, he doesn't.
Your guy's wrong. You're wrong.
Your guy lit up the Patriots. The Patriots make bad QBs look great.
It's a known thing. And

Speaker 1 he also lit up the Cowboys. Is that a known thing? They lost by 20.
I'm pretty sure Belichick's like 34-3 against rookie quarterbacks or something like that. I didn't say rookies.

Speaker 1 I said bad quarterbacks lately. Let's say the last two years since Brady left.
The Patriots make bad QBs look pretty good.

Speaker 1 They might just be a bad team.

Speaker 1 I don't think they're a great team. What does that make Zach Wilson? He's worse.
Really bad. Yeah, really.
Really strong. No, but you missed the Y.
Oh, he's the most yard in the world.

Speaker 1 He had the most yards in the loss against the Patriots. Six stat.

Speaker 1 Ever. Six stats.
As a Jets quarterback, even in wins. It's like a biz stat.
Like, oh, I got laid last night, but I was like the ninth guy to bang that girl. I'm so sad, dude.

Speaker 1 All right. So, Wit, we got to talk some hockey.
Let's pretend that the hockey season starts this week. Hockey's buzzing, boys.
Is it? You have a lot more listeners than you think.

Speaker 1 Oh, I've met a lot of tweets like, where's a hockey preview? So

Speaker 1 we like to. You're finally showing some respect.
Yeah, we like to do our previews like a week or two late, maybe a month late. I think we did our MLB preview in like June.

Speaker 1 We haven't done our NBA preview yet. That's when baseball starts.
So we're not doing our hockey preview before our NBA preview. It's just football is king.

Speaker 1 And we like hockey, but football is king. No, football is king.
And also, it helps me as the guy who's going to do the preview in terms of I can already say some things that have happened. Right.

Speaker 1 I don't have to be completely wrong about everything. Right.
We're giving you a go to Spit and Chiclets here. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Spit and Chicklets has it all, but let's pretend we know nothing about the NHL. Obviously, we know everything, but let's just pretend.
Who's good?

Speaker 1 Stanley Cup champs. All right, so are we going as the season hasn't began? No, let's just say.
Now the abs are like not doing great. So tell me about the season as it stands.

Speaker 1 If you want to roast Jake's power rankings that he did of every sport, that might be good too. So Jake ranked all, was it 120, how many teams?

Speaker 1 124 teams in every major sport, and he ranked them all on the same list.

Speaker 1 So in your

Speaker 1 second half, of the bottom 62, how many of them are NHL teams? If you say 20, let's not get a decent amount on that. Yeah,

Speaker 1 let's go back to this because that's something, that's like 20 minutes of discussion that he's got. I want to get

Speaker 1 with.

Speaker 1 But based on his thing,

Speaker 1 you have the

Speaker 1 Avalanche as the number one team still, Jake?

Speaker 5 I had the Lightning in front of them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Lightning. So the Lightning, are they still, they're still number one?

Speaker 1 Also, pretend that we tape this. The Avs are number one.
This is the most fucked up preview. No, no, no, no, no.
No, wait. I'm going to help you.

Speaker 1 Today is September 15th. We just haven't run it until November.
See? Now we're genius.

Speaker 1 Now we're fucking genius. Hey, I'm in.
I'm in. Avs might be slow.
Colorado or the dogs. They might start slow.

Speaker 1 I could see the Avs being like 5-5 through 10 games, guys. I really could.
No, let's just go from right now.

Speaker 1 I will say the Avs have had a little bit of a tough start. Actually, right now,

Speaker 1 The lowest amount of goals scored 5-on-5 in the NHL are the Avs. That's crazy.
But Landis Gog's out. He had surgery.
They're battling injuries. They lost Kadri, big loss.

Speaker 1 Everyone knows Nazim Kadri signed with Calgary.

Speaker 1 It's still the Avs league. If you look at it, it's like having McCarr, having McKinnon, their entire forward unit, the D, they are going to be right there looking to repeat.
There's no doubt.

Speaker 1 Doesn't matter. If you talk to me after 50 games and they're still 500, I might be worried, but beginning of the season, no worries.
After that, it's wide open. Now, I'm an Oilers guy.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you saw me shave Bissonette's head in Edmonton after we won the Battle of Alberta.

Speaker 1 They are a special team. They brought in Campbell from Toronto as their goalie, but right now, the Stuart Skinner kid, he's kind of stealing the job.

Speaker 1 So, Edmonton with McDavid and Leon, they could win the Stanley Cup. People think I'm crazy, but they could.
Can Edmonton play defense, though? Because I remember watching them in the Stanley Cup.

Speaker 1 I took every Canadian team last year to win the Stanley Cup, and they just couldn't play defense. They

Speaker 1 not, I mean, yeah, that wasn't exactly their strong suit. It isn't, but they lost to the Avs.
They got swept. The Avs were crushing everyone.

Speaker 1 They have to get by Colorado. They've got to get by Calgary again.
It's going to be hard, but I'm just saying Edmonton can win the Stanley Cup, as crazy as that sounds. Because is McDavid

Speaker 1 is he the best player in the NHL easily? He's the best

Speaker 1 pro athlete right now. Oh, yes.
I like that take. No, you're such a guy that's going to chirp this argument.
I'm not. I'm saying I love the take.

Speaker 1 Okay, Connor McDavid dominates hockey more than any other athlete in the world dominates Shohei Otani? Shohei Otani is a game changer, but McDavid,

Speaker 1 he might be the biggest challenger. Like people will, you know, try to mention like other sports in terms of football, basketball, but

Speaker 1 Tony does it both sides. That's shit.
We did not give Shohei Otani, like there's a lot of times where people will be like, this guy doesn't get enough publicity for what he's doing.

Speaker 1 He absolutely didn't get enough because of the.

Speaker 1 third best pitcher and one of the best hitters. And it's like stupid.
But all right, so Connor McDavid, best player in all the sports right now. Connor McDavid, the most dominant at his sport.

Speaker 1 If he's the most dominant at his sport, then you would figure that they would have won the Stanley Cup. So

Speaker 1 it's not an individual scumbag league like the NBA. You need to have a great team around you.
It's not one or two. Well, then you can't be the most dominant at your sport.
No. Yes, you can be.
Okay,

Speaker 1 you can be. What about what are the best? No, because even in the playoffs, he was.
He doesn't have.

Speaker 1 to be a good player. It's harder to be dominant as an individual in the NHL.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 Well, no, being dominant and being that good cannot lead you to a cup. The way one or two amazing NBAers can win you an NBA title.
It'll never happen in hockey.

Speaker 1 If he was so dominant, why does he come off the ice? It's a good question.

Speaker 1 That's something that where if you skate long enough, if you've ever done it,

Speaker 1 you run out of wind. You can't really continue to win.
NBA players don't come off the court. So

Speaker 1 that's because they walk around the court, and then their exciting, crazy plays are dunks, which is like me putting the trash away in the kitchen.

Speaker 1 There's no

Speaker 1 course of any of you guys trying to mention that that's similar. It's just you trolling me.
I mean, Giannis. No, Giannis plays for 48 minutes.
What are the longest shifts in the NHL?

Speaker 1 What's the longest shift you ever played? So if you get caught in your own zone, you can be out there two, two and a half minutes. Oh, God.
Oh, man. That sounds awful.

Speaker 1 Yeah, people don't understand because you don't skate. Like 120 minutes.

Speaker 1 It's almost like people don't get boxing in terms of a three-minute round is so long. People are like, oh, three minutes.
Hockey's kind of similar. So the punches to the face.

Speaker 1 That's crazy because in soccer, they play for 90 minutes and they don't get a break. Yeah, that's true.
Well, they get one at halftime, but it's 45 minutes at a time.

Speaker 1 Some of the most amazing athletes in terms of endurance and wind in the world. They will

Speaker 1 basketball players.

Speaker 1 Are a joke. And you guys both know that they need their...
Hockey players don't do their what are the days? Load management. Load management.
So don't even start with load management's important.

Speaker 1 You guys just bring me in for an NHL preview and you

Speaker 1 can control the NHL.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no. So we have Connor McDavid the most dominant player in the history of any sport at his time.
Not in the history currently. But he still hasn't won a Stanley Cup.
Nope. Okay.

Speaker 1 So is he a choker? No.

Speaker 1 He has not

Speaker 1 both played. You guys, he has.
What do you mean you can't have him? He's like, he's Chris Paul. You know one thing about hockey.

Speaker 1 He cannot be a choker while being the best player and not have a Stanley Cup yet. That's just just how it is.
Now, I'll tell you this: if his career ends and he never got one, different.

Speaker 1 He's a choker. Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know what I would say then.

Speaker 1 That is a valid argument, but being 25 years old, you guys trying to mention that him not having a cup yet means he's not the most dominant shows you guys know absolutely zero about hockey.

Speaker 1 But you said you listened to this show. Yeah, I do.
Right. So

Speaker 1 we boil down every conversation to rings. Yeah, yeah, very true.
You guys are ring guys. You guys are greatness guys.
But I'm telling you right now, this guy is the top dog. It's mostly just binary.

Speaker 1 It's do you have at least a ring? Yeah. And then if you get one ring, then okay, you can be the greatest.
So no greatest until you have a ring. You have to have the ring.
All right.

Speaker 1 Thank God Ovi got it. Yeah, what's that guy? Pat Maroon, probably the best hockey player in the NHL.
Of all time. Well, I mean, he's got, what, three rings? Three in a row, he did.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then he went to the fourth final. Yeah.
So that's the best hockey player. So we're giving Big Reg.
We're giving Big Rig the

Speaker 1 heart trophy this year for MVP and the pardon my take toilet. Pardon my take.
Best player. Best player in the world.

Speaker 1 ever in the world he'll come on he'll come on I mean he has the most rings that's you guys can present him a trophy shut case all right so uh if Connor McDavid's won give us two and three because it does feel like hockey has like an insane amount of young awesome talent right now crazy hockey's the uh the best it's ever been kale mccarr is number two

Speaker 1 he's crazy austin matthews is number three kale mccarr is the conor mcdavid of defense he almost might be more valuable according to uh wayne gretzy you ever heard of him? Yeah. He says

Speaker 1 he says Kale McCarr is the best player in the world. Well, he would be closer to the Shohei Otani where it's like he plays defense, but he also scores goals.
Yeah, he scores a bunch of goals.

Speaker 1 And Nathan McKinnon, who's, say, fourth on that list, fifth, maybe, he came on the show and told us that he thinks he'll break every record from any defense whenever.

Speaker 1 He'll get 100 points easily one season. Kale McCarr.
Yeah, and said that this will be the greatest defensive of all time. So I think he's my greatest right now.
Oh, Oh, because he's got the ring.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he got the ring. I think he's mine, too.
You also just talked us into it. You did a very poor job defending your take.
You're like, well, that's my guy.

Speaker 1 Then Wayne Gretzky.

Speaker 1 Then Wayne Gretzky actually thinks it's other guys better than Carl. The best ever thinks that this guy's the best ever.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to deny the fact that we could have a hell of an argument for a long time over maybe who is better right now. I don't think we could because I think we just are McDavid.
But

Speaker 1 whoever you pick and Big Rick. Big Rig's three.

Speaker 1 Three in a row.

Speaker 1 It's pretty hard to do. He almost got four in a row.

Speaker 1 And then you know what could happen? Like, somebody could come in over the top and be like, I actually think it's Igor.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, Avery.

Speaker 1 Well, he's a great goalie, and he shoots. That's actually a rule change.
What do you mean he shoots? I want to talk to you about that. What do you mean he shoots?

Speaker 1 Why is it an icing if a goalie takes a shot at the end of the game, if the other net's pulled? Because you're shooting it from beyond the red line to the other team's goalie. They should change it.

Speaker 1 No, no. They should change it.

Speaker 1 Why would they change it for the goalies? The goalies, all the rules have been changed for the goalies. The goalies, you cannot even go near a goalie now.
I I like this.

Speaker 1 You cannot, all these goals now, they get reviewed, they get taken back. You're shocked.
The guy's elbow pad just caught the tip of the glove three minutes before the defenseman was shooting. No goal.

Speaker 1 So the goalies have enough rules changed for them to begin with. We're not going to now add that they can shoot at empty netters and not have to pay the consequence of an icing.

Speaker 1 So are goalies like quarterbacks of the NFL where it's like the rules have become so far that it's like, come on, guys. You know, like when you see these.
It's not that obvious. Okay.

Speaker 1 It's not that bad where now it's like pathetic. Yeah.
It's not even football in some sense as a tackle in the QB. The goalie, though, I'll compare it to the quarterback in that

Speaker 1 the most important position. Yeah.
No doubt. And so what are other rules? Because this is good.

Speaker 1 We need rules like in the NFL, you know, you can just walk into any bar and be like, they made it impossible to play defense. You know, like these guys, they have no chance.

Speaker 1 What's the rule that has changed in the NHL that's made it very hard for a certain position group?

Speaker 1 I would say it's hardest on defensemen now. You used to be able to kind of hold up a guy, so if a guy's four-checking, you just try to run over your other defenseman partner.

Speaker 1 You could kind of pick him, but it's been a while since you can't do that. It's pretty fair now to everyone, though.

Speaker 1 The goalies are protected a little bit more, but the calls are made for defensemen the same as forwards, where they've figured out a way. Sometimes there's way too many penalties called.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But in terms of that, not one player is being awarded like forward or defenseman any sort of advantage. Maybe the goalies.

Speaker 1 The only problem I think most NHL fans would have is you review goals always around the net goals, and you never know if it's going to be goal or no goal.

Speaker 1 Like, you just have no idea which way they're going to lean that net. Right, yeah, right, right.
I hear the announcers get that wrong, too, all the time. All the time.

Speaker 1 I think this is going to be a good goal.

Speaker 1 And these guys know what they're talking about when they're wrong that often, it's like, what's going on here? Yeah, so I have an actual serious hockey question about goalies, too.

Speaker 1 If you look at the guys that switch teams in the offseason, a lot of times they're like, okay, this guy had a proven track record where he was. We're bringing him in.

Speaker 1 We're going to see if he can help our defense. Is there any sort of like an adjustment period for a goalie playing behind a new,

Speaker 1 whether it's like a system of defense or like just adjusting to a team? Or is it pretty much the net and the crease never changes?

Speaker 1 I would lean towards that without having any experience in that department. I would lean towards like, it's your job to just make the save.

Speaker 1 I think teams playing different structures might affect you a little bit at the beginning, but goalies are, yeah, exactly. The crease is the same.

Speaker 1 It's like the Hoosiers, you know, they're measuring the net. It's the same thing.
Just stop the puck. So

Speaker 1 we talked about the Avalanche, talked about the Oilers. What other teams either are surprising you so far? The Blackhawks kind of screwing themselves up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Blackhawks are kind of screwing themselves, though. I know, because it's a rebuild.
The Blackhawks are.

Speaker 1 Is Kane going to get traded?

Speaker 1 That's a tough one. I would say yes, and they made it sound like it would happen at some point during the year, but when you've been a legend somewhere for that long, like it's maybe...
i always say

Speaker 1 oh i'd want to chase another cop i don't even have one but maybe the maybe somebody like that has his three he's been there his whole life doesn't really want to go anywhere they'd be probably smart to trade him

Speaker 1 i feel like though he's he's young enough that he's like he's like 33 34 years old like he's young enough that he could he probably wants to play playoff hockey exactly right oh oh he's that's what i'm saying he's still young enough to be so good right on another team and i'll root for him wherever he goes oh yeah he's he's a he's one of the best American to ever play, I think.

Speaker 1 But with the Blackhawks, it's like this is probably one of the stronger drafts they've seen in a long, long time. So you just want to get that in that lottery.
Right. There's like three legit.

Speaker 1 There's a Russian, a kid at Michigan, and then the big guys is kid Connor Bernard. You want to get one of them.
So they got to trade Taysan Cain.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. I think they will.
I think they will. And it's been, whatever, nine, ten games.
Like, they're looking good right now, but in the end,

Speaker 1 they'll be one of the weaker teams in the league.

Speaker 1 I also think everyone understands it because he almost got traded last year where it's like, if you want to be good again, you have to make the hard decisions.

Speaker 1 And the past is the past. It's over.

Speaker 1 That's like the business. It sucks as a fan base because, or even as somebody who played in Chicago before they were good, and the crowd was nuts, and there was 6,000 people there.

Speaker 1 And we've had guys come on chicklets and tell stories of being able to talk to their kids in the crowd.

Speaker 1 And now it's probably heading back towards that after being the, I'd say, the best atmosphere in the league for 10, 15 years. And basically, every game was

Speaker 1 nationally televised. Remember, it was like a joke.
The NBC game was a game. Oh, they had every

Speaker 1 game. It was like NBC's schedule, and it was just like the Blackhawks versus everyone.

Speaker 1 But yeah, so, all right, so what about in the

Speaker 1 East? East, yeah. So

Speaker 1 before the year, everyone was worried Boston was missing Marshawn and Charlie McAvoy, apparently till like Thanksgiving. Well, Marshawn's already back.

Speaker 1 McAvoy's coming back real soon, and they're the best team in the league. So it's kind of the last dance thing.

Speaker 1 They resigned Bergeron one year. They resigned Crete back from Czech Republic, who used to be there.
And I think them getting rid of their coach, who's in Vegas now,

Speaker 1 guys were sick of him. Guys weren't big fans of him.
So Cretey, I don't think, comes back if he's still the coach. And then there's the guy, DeBrusk, who asked for a trade.

Speaker 1 Now he doesn't want to be traded because he's not the coach. So the Bruins are in probably their last chance to get another one.

Speaker 1 They have one. They've been to three finals.

Speaker 1 They look top of of the league right now, enough to where, as long as they stay healthy, which is a big if, they'll be in the hunt at the end of the year. So you bring up coaches.

Speaker 1 I got a question I've always thought about the NHL. Why does John Tortorella keep getting jobs even though everyone hates him? Everyone doesn't hate him, though.

Speaker 1 But it feels like every former player hates him. No, no,

Speaker 1 they don't. They have stories of times they hated him, but if you talk to...

Speaker 1 The more people we talk to that played for torts like him. Really? Dislike him.

Speaker 1 They say at times he's an absolute motherfucker, but you see Philly, who has a roster that's like bottom five to ten in the league, they're playing well because this guy just gets people to buy in, and

Speaker 1 he makes you competitive even if the team's roster isn't great. And he's doing that already.
But it is crazy.

Speaker 1 There is complaints from hockey fans everywhere of this old boys club where the same guys get hired and fired, and he's one of them.

Speaker 1 That's just, I don't know, he's probably coached six teams now, I'd say. Yeah.
So I don't know.

Speaker 1 But the guy I talked to in Philly, the guys I talked to in Philly, excuse me, they say so far they like him, but he's nuts.

Speaker 1 Yeah, is it one of the situations where even when he gets over the top nuts that he is uniting the team behind like, fuck this guy? I think he's willing to be like that.

Speaker 1 He'd go in the locker room, according to past stories, like, all right, guys, I don't want one person to try to make an offensive play tonight.

Speaker 1 We're just going to dump the puck in, go grind him out, and if anyone's in our crease, all five guys go in there and punch him in the head.

Speaker 1 And if we lose 5-0, you can motherfuck me in my office if you want to.

Speaker 1 He's just a nut. He's courts.
Sometimes you got to mix it up over the course of a season and do some crazy shit like that. Yeah, well, just to keep people interested.

Speaker 1 And he looks that we can't outscore teams, so let's just try to beat guys 1-0, get good goal attending.

Speaker 1 His big thing is blocking shots. Doesn't matter if you're the star player or the grunt seventh defenseman.
If you're not blocking shots, you're not playing.

Speaker 1 So what about another coach who I don't think is coaching right now, Mike Babcock? Is he

Speaker 1 another one that people

Speaker 1 hate? He's a really coach. People really

Speaker 1 hate him. But he's a really good coach.
He's a very good coach.

Speaker 1 I think people talk about preparation and preparing to go against other teams in playoff series, top-notch, one of the best.

Speaker 1 But stories came up, you know, talking to guys who played for him in Detroit and Toronto, just not a great guy.

Speaker 1 And then in the time of age that we're in now where

Speaker 1 you have to be more of a player's coach. Yeah, you say certain things now.
You're getting fired. And, you know, the way he treated guys ended up getting them kind of canceled, I'll say.
Oh, I didn't.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 well, like,

Speaker 1 this guy, Johan Franzen, who's an amazing player in Detroit for a long time, kind of came out and talked about some of the shit he said to him that was just way over the line.

Speaker 1 And, you know, stories come out where guys just didn't like him as a person, but he can coach.

Speaker 1 I think he'll be back in the NHL at some point. I don't know if he even wants to be.
He was coaching college hockey in Canada. He quit that job before the season.
Who knows?

Speaker 1 But he's proven that he gets you know the most out of teams I think I'll tell you a quick story there was uh during the minors during the lockout uh the the all a bunch of the NHL guys were down in the AHL this is 2005 and he's coaching Cincinnati I guess and there was a call from the East Coast League and they're playing a game in Anaheim at where the Ducks play which is Cincinnati's their farm team and they're you know going up maybe some ducks fans can see some prospects play a game as the season's canceled and the kid from the coast is called up big deal to be playing in the AHL.

Speaker 1 And he's standing there. He's looking over the ice before the game.
And Babcock came out and just told him, This is the last time you'll ever step foot in an NHL rink.

Speaker 1 So it's just things like that, stories like that that come out. It's like, just

Speaker 1 a dick. Is that a right?

Speaker 1 Is that not a dick move? Was he right?

Speaker 1 Maybe he was, but

Speaker 1 then it's not as much of a dick move. No, it still is.
But if you sound like you sound like Fortnoy right now, that's a dick move.

Speaker 1 Some guys say that to motivate you, but if you just say it just to be an asshole, then that's that's a different story. But

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Speaker 1 Who's the best coach in the NHL right now?

Speaker 1 Right now, best coach. I got to give it to John Cooper.
Yeah. With what they did the past three years and the way he kind of communicates with guys,

Speaker 1 he's at another level. I would say he's right there.
I think Montgomery in Boston, he had some off-ice issues that had him get fired in Dallas, where they had a really good team a few years ago.

Speaker 1 And then he was the assistant for a bit in St. Louis.
And he was a head coach that should have already been there for a while, but now Boston has him. They look this good.
Everyone loves that guy. And

Speaker 1 the best coach, maybe not even coaching, and that's Barry Trots. Yeah.
Yeah, your boy. I love Barry.
Who there's crazy rumors now. Toronto's struggling a little bit.

Speaker 1 They should hire him. So he came out and said, I want to coach an original six team.
They should hire him. They actually should.
And

Speaker 1 he's going the rounds. He's doing a couple different podcasts.
I'd love to get him on chicklets. That sucks.
He said, I want to coach an original six team. Actually,

Speaker 1 let's get him a part of my take before he goes on chicklets. That would be a dirty move.
Yeah, that would be a scumbag move. Would it be a scumbag move? No, Harper just went yards.
Yes. Yes.

Speaker 1 There we go. We're going to run this after the World Series.
No, this is No, this will be like,

Speaker 1 this will be the next preview of the MLB 2023 season. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was so perfect. People are going to be like, what the fuck are they talking about? Especially when Houston wins the series.
Yeah, the Astros won 4-1.

Speaker 1 Oh, so Trotsky, he came on and said, I want to coach an original six team. Well, Boston, Detroit, Montreal all have coaches they kind of just recently hired.
New York's coach isn't going anywhere.

Speaker 1 And Chicago,

Speaker 1 they have Richardson. They just got a guy.
So it's like

Speaker 1 he knows Toronto will be the one. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You loved him, right? I love him. I know you played for him.
You had a big role in that.

Speaker 1 I certainly did. I love Barry Trots.
I was so mad when we didn't re-sign him. That was the stupidest move of all time.

Speaker 1 That was dumb. Listen, with Barry, there's definitely

Speaker 1 a fuse on him. You know, like the clock starts ticking, and eventually guys start to tune him out a little bit.
Yeah, he doesn't let him do much offensively, which guys just hate.

Speaker 1 And I think he'd be a great coach. He's could fix the raw, maybe.

Speaker 1 Listen,

Speaker 1 I give my highest letter of recommendation to Barry Trots for what it's worth. I know you think that they stink right now.
I think your exact words were, the Leafs legit stink. Yeah, they do.

Speaker 1 They do. But Biz made a guarantee, which

Speaker 1 that means a lot, that Trots will be the coach by March or some shit. I don't know what he said.

Speaker 1 I think Biz just has thoughts, and then he thinks those thoughts are going to be. And then he says his thoughts, but then you forget about the thing, like, think before you speak.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he guarantees guarantees circumcised. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 He doesn't come through any bet.

Speaker 1 He backs out. But he did shave his head.
Well, I shaved his head. Yeah.
All right. So give us two teams that when we're talking hockey, we'll be like, watch out for this team.

Speaker 1 That no one's going to people be like, oh, shit, you guys are real puckheads.

Speaker 1 So I'm puck bunnies or puck boys. We're puck boys.
You guys don't want to be puck bunnies. I want to be a puck bunny.
Nah, nah, you're too big. So

Speaker 1 I'll say I've been on these guys since the the end of last year, really leaning into this year. The Buffalo Sabres.
Things are changing in Buffalo. Things are changing.

Speaker 1 And Jack Eichel, who's lighting it up in Vegas, they're 8-2. They're flying.
He's a hell of a player. But there was so much baggage and drama there.
It ended.

Speaker 1 They got a couple really good players in for them, and they've taken off. And they have...
They have the youngest team in the NHL.

Speaker 1 I would say they have like six legit studs that are under the age of 24. Wow.
So they're going to be

Speaker 1 and they've already started off. That was my call.
That was was my call last year. Everyone said I'm an idiot.
When Kane goes to Buffalo, remember who you heard it from first? Me. Witty.
Well, I just.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, Puck Bunny Big Cat.

Speaker 1 All right, that's one team. Give us another.
I'm trying to give, like,

Speaker 1 not the obvious. Yeah, because everyone's like, oh, you guys don't know Puck.
If we're like, yeah, watch out for the lightning and the avalanche. Shit, this is.

Speaker 1 Oh, kind of boring because I bet you not many Dallas Stars fans are listening, but

Speaker 1 seems to be they have kind of something going there.

Speaker 1 Peter DeBoer is the coach. He's a new coach.
He's been to the cup final as the coach of the Devils, the Sharks, maybe another one, but he's had a lot of success.

Speaker 1 Their roster is kind of weird where they have some overpaid veterans like Sagan and Ben. They're still really good, but they don't,

Speaker 1 maybe not worth like what their salaries are. But then they got younger guys that are studs.
So Dallas is a sleeper team. I like that.
Okay. What about you talked about the last dance for the Bruins?

Speaker 1 I was told last year was the last dance for the Pittsburgh Penguins. It's not.

Speaker 1 It wasn't the last dance. So how many more dances does Sidney Crosby have? I think they're on a three-year window.
I believe that Malkin and La Tang signed for four years, maybe.

Speaker 1 That was the question:

Speaker 1 where were those two going to go? They both re-signed. Sid talked to Malkin all summer.
That's their,

Speaker 1 they got one, two, maybe three years here to get it done. They looked great to start, but they've been struggling since.
How much? I'm looking right now. Letang is through 2027, 28.

Speaker 1 They both got signed four or five-year year deals. But I would say, even at the age, it's like two, three more years max for those guys.
Oh,

Speaker 1 here's a question that you'll be able to answer.

Speaker 1 With the Russian gas supply coming to the United States now, has that been affected by the war in Ukraine at all? Are they able to ship over?

Speaker 1 I never had or experienced or heard of anyone having Russian gas over here.

Speaker 1 I saw that shit up close and personal in Russia, in Sochi, in these rinks I traveled around in the KHL, these dumps, Dynamo, Moscow, Sever Stahl, just these absolute shitholes.

Speaker 1 That's where I saw the Russian gas. It's never been over here.
Has there been any curtailing of the black card that a lot of the Russian players get? That's a biz thing.

Speaker 1 He's talked a lot about the black card that's given out, but those were jokes about Putin, who turns out to be pretty big scumbag.

Speaker 1 So I'll try not to talk about

Speaker 1 it. Try not to talk about major pigeon.
Yeah, you know, he's

Speaker 1 not exactly the guy I want to be talking about on pardon my take, so you can fucking bring him up if you want to.

Speaker 1 Okay, so it's good. We got some good stuff to go from.
Give us your conference finals and Stanley Cup finals.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then, Jake, did you pull up your sheet? I want you to comment after that. Yeah.
Okay,

Speaker 1 I'm going to go

Speaker 1 Bruins

Speaker 1 over Rangers to get to the cup final. That would be interesting.
I think the Avs, unfortunately, will probably beat the Oilers again in the Western Conference final.

Speaker 1 And I'm picking the Avs to win again. Okay.

Speaker 1 Oh, if the Bruins played the Aves and they were all healthy, it'd be sick hockey. But I'm going Avs again.
I picked the Lightning to go back-to-back, and they did.

Speaker 1 So, Connor McDavid chokes again is the headline coming out of this. The best player ever.
You can run with that. I'm not saying that.
I'm going sabers over stars. Okay,

Speaker 1 my two sleepers. No shit.

Speaker 1 You know hockey. I would agree with Big Cat, but something about Buffalo being good at two sports at once just doesn't seem realistic.

Speaker 1 Every storyline has to change at some point. That's true.

Speaker 1 Unless you're a Commanders fan. That's very true.
That's true. I was a Caps fan.
That changed. Oh, Ovi.
So is Ovie going to get the record? Just yes or no? Yes. Hell yeah.
Definitely.

Speaker 1 What about?

Speaker 1 No, I said definitely. What is it about the shot? Because it seems like he's been scoring the same goal for

Speaker 1 15 years. If you watched hockey but never played hockey, it would be even more confusing.
Like, why don't you guys know he's getting a one-timer at the top of the circle? Right.

Speaker 1 But you have to cover other guys, and then you're like, hopefully the goalie can make the save, save, and sometimes, or somehow, every most times, he finds some sort of corner or hole in the goalie, and that's it.

Speaker 1 It's a joke.

Speaker 1 This is a different question on who's going to win, but

Speaker 1 when we have like Paul Rabel in, and we talk to him about lacrosse, and like, that's a different level.

Speaker 1 But, like, are hockey guys, do they ever get pissed when they see how much money the other sports players make? No, I think hockey players are pretty fired up to what be making what they are.

Speaker 1 Where it's come back to? Well, yeah, like now it's it's pretty legit. Now, you see these these

Speaker 1 the nba stuff to me is so funny because you hear a guy you hear a name you've never heard the name you've never seen him play you never seen a highlight and he's making 12.5 it's like it's just but but hockey yeah more but hockey players they just understand that it's like why would you get mad about what they're making that's that's the amount of money that has to go around in that league it's just you get a little jealous i'd say but okay i mean hockey's going up and yeah salary cap going up yeah going up they said um most likely like four million next year hell yes and maybe by the time

Speaker 1 i don't know maybe 10 years it's up from right now like 10 10 12 million so guys are making a lot they're going to continue to make a lot the one group of guys are the the stars in the 80s and early 90s they get pissed which i understand a little bit it's that's that happens in every sport sucks where a guy who

Speaker 1 maybe not hall of famers but close to it they don't you know they're still working now it's it's just that's yeah it happened every sport think about think about like i'm gonna look up right now i wonder what like joe Montana made in his entire life.

Speaker 1 Well, no, it'll be like his biggest year will be like $1.3 million, but you've got to also think of

Speaker 1 the highest paid player then.

Speaker 1 Joe Montana made $25 million playing football.

Speaker 1 Patrick Mahomes makes like $50 a year. Yeah.
That's why Montana is doing like every commercial ever done. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That would piss me off a little. It wouldn't piss me off that Mahomes is making that.
It pissed me off that like someone else was making

Speaker 1 not a good quarterback was making like $20 million million a year. It's defensemen who maybe played a long time and had hell of a careers that saw guys like me signing a six-year deal for $24 million.

Speaker 1 What was your final earnings?

Speaker 1 I'd probably say like $29-ish,

Speaker 1 including Russia, like $48-ish. No, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1 $29.

Speaker 1 I won't bash. $29.30.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. I want to look up

Speaker 1 what the baseball players were paid on average in 94 right before the strike when everybody was like, these greedy fucks going on strike. And they weren't making shit.

Speaker 1 And then you look at what they're making right now. And it's because they put on that strike.
Dude, you're going to be 40 soon? February. Oh, no.
Yeah, I don't care. I feel young.

Speaker 1 Have you looked young and my body sometimes doesn't feel young, but my mind feels super young. Have you taken any steps to improve your shot to compete with Frank DeTank?

Speaker 1 What shot?

Speaker 1 Your centerized shot. Frank Detank nailed his.
I've only done one once, and the Blackhawks gave me a broken stick. They completely shriveled me.

Speaker 1 That was Biz. That was Biz for sure.

Speaker 1 No, they.

Speaker 1 No, I'm saying Biz probably made a call. No, because he still thinks I'm lying, but the stick was broken.
R.A. and Biz hit it.
You don't think I could if I had to? Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 That sounds like Biz did that. Frank the Tank made his.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I didn't know that. I actually didn't know that.
What's your golf game right now? I don't know if you saw. I shot a 72.
It's Shinnaka. I saw that.
That was sick. Dude, no big deal.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you just had it going that day? Yeah, I shot a 132 the next week. That's golf, though.
That's golf. That's golf.
Peaks of value.

Speaker 1 I watched one YouTube video, screwed up my swing, fucked everything up.

Speaker 1 No, then, yeah, you were putting lights out at Shenacau yesterday. Oh, I hit everything.

Speaker 1 Golf's great. This is a tough time of year for your boy.
The season's coming to an end. Yeah.
Although,

Speaker 1 it's easier to dive just all into chiclets. You know, you guys are working so much.
I'm not exactly

Speaker 1 a workaholic, I'd say, as you two are.

Speaker 1 So when golf ends, at least I don't mind working a lot more because I can't. You work to live.
You don't live to work.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, I'd say that'd be a good description what's uh what's on your rider when you check into a hotel if like spitting chiclets is going somewhere and you guys are they're setting up a room for you the Jamaican comfort

Speaker 1 peanut butter

Speaker 1 no not peanut butter peanut MMs

Speaker 1 peanut butter's better no I like peanuts high noon and Pink Whitney I don't I'm not I'm not as much of a diva as some may think PFT have you considered I so I just watched back it was Labor Day weekend I was flying back back from Louisiana and I watched the Danbury Trashers documentary, The Untold Story on Netflix.

Speaker 1 The one from like three years ago. Yeah, Dave just found out.
It's incredible. Yeah, I mean, I just watched it Labor Day weekend, and it blew my mind.
It's unreal.

Speaker 1 We had a couple of the guys on the show. So have you considered like the Pink Whitneys would be a great unaffiliated minor league hockey team? Biz and I have talked about an East Coast League team.

Speaker 1 He even mentioned like the possibility of one in Colorado. So

Speaker 1 don't sleep on that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You might be on the team. Do you want to coach a game? No.

Speaker 1 It's fucked up. No, because you'll be like, who won a ring in high school? You're the starter.
Yeah, exactly. You're the GOAT.
You won the high school state D3 championship. Give it up for Chicago.

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Speaker 1 Jake yeah so what PFT said PFT you introduce it so it was oh no Jake Jake made power rankings uh one through 124 of every single team how long did that take you

Speaker 1 It's a few hours. It's a great list because it gets you so mad.
Like, I looked at it. I was like, the Cubs are 75.
Yeah. What the fuck? And he's doing this, but he has like the Rangers.

Speaker 1 The Patriots are in the top 10. No.
No.

Speaker 7 Like, right now. People actually said I had them too high.

Speaker 1 I had them in the 20s. Oh, so this is like, what, today? So, well, this show's coming out in eight months.
So

Speaker 1 we're never airing this. But, like, recent championships help you.

Speaker 5 That's why I have the Lightning at number two.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Lightning is number two overall in all sports. Show them the Barcelona Power.

Speaker 1 Show them the graphic. Wait, so

Speaker 1 am I.

Speaker 1 So the Golden State Warriors are number one. Really? Tampa Bay Lightning number two.

Speaker 1 This must have made people go below this. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 6 I think I'm going to update it every few weeks.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you have to. How are the Chiefs three, bro?

Speaker 1 The Rams are seven? You're the Rams above the Avs?

Speaker 1 Like, there's no way to actually, like,

Speaker 1 I'll say this. The Sacramento Kings is 124.
I don't think anyone's already. That is.
Is that a real. They're still a team.
Yeah, no, even Sacramento Kings fans are like, Jake, absolutely nailed this.

Speaker 7 I think in terms of credibility, as long as I nailed one and 124.

Speaker 1 Okay, so the Rangers are above the Bruins.

Speaker 7 You just had them in your conference final.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, I'm thinking, no, I'm thinking, yeah, but the Bruins won a Stanley Cup more recently.

Speaker 1 There's just no direct. Oh, yeah, you think? Yeah.
You were in the basement for seven hours doing this, like, watching Tua highlights. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But people love it. Carolina Hurricane's 40th.
Penguins are 30th. That's pretty high.
For all four leagues, I'd say, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 There's probably four four or five where I really screwed up, but

Speaker 1 what is your worst one?

Speaker 6 I think Patriots 26 is really bad.

Speaker 1 Patriots 26 is one that will get people buzzing. Well, okay, so if it's if we get.
Like the Eagles are 15 places above the Patriots. Philly's at 20 in the places.

Speaker 1 I feel like this is really. Yeah, okay, so this is really what's going on in the NFL right now.
Pretty much right now, but like recent few years definitely play a part.

Speaker 1 The Heat are 2-5, and he's got them 15.

Speaker 1 Yeah, why are the Bulls 83?

Speaker 1 The Bulls shouldn't be 83. Big cat, your team's the weekend.
They do suck, but they're not. They went to playoffs last year.

Speaker 1 I think, Jake, if the Tampa Bay Lightning played against the Golden State Warriors in baseball, who wins?

Speaker 7 Heat and Lightning in baseball?

Speaker 1 No, no, sorry, the Heat and the Golden State Warriors. In baseball? In baseball.
That's an unanswerable question. Yeah, I have no idea.
Oh, the Coyotes are 123. I forgot.
I did want to ask you this.

Speaker 1 The Coyotes are playing in Arizona State's rink this year. Does it affect any? Like, it's obviously the same size, but three.
Three years. At minimum.
Is there any gambling angle on it?

Speaker 1 Not really. I mean, they've lost both games there, but I think they lost the first game against Winnipeg in overtime or shootout.
And then the next game, like, the Rangers got them late.

Speaker 1 So I think they'll be.

Speaker 1 They might be competitive. They'll get blown up.

Speaker 1 They're a horrible team. They're 123 on Jake's rankings.
Yeah, which means, I mean, you're close to to getting kicked out of the four major sports leagues in North America.

Speaker 1 It's up to Jake who decides. Are we going to relegate Jake? I would relegate his ass right down to four.
Have like college basketball short porch or something. So

Speaker 1 we should have relegation at barstool. Relegate podcasts, guys.
Imagine if, like, I just have a really bad string of

Speaker 1 like gambling picks, and next thing you know, like, all you can see me is on hot ice. I'm like, hey, G.

Speaker 1 Or no, hot. What is it? Hot.
Yeah, hot ice. No, I tell Grinnell.
No, it is hot ice. It's hot ice.
It's not hot. I thought that was a hockey.

Speaker 1 I tell Grinelli, I'm like,

Speaker 1 Nate's waiting. Kracking Aces.

Speaker 1 Bring him up. What about this?

Speaker 1 Jake's got the 49ers ranked ahead of the Edmonton Oilers. I don't hate that.
Where do you have the Yankees? 27. 27.
27. Oh,

Speaker 1 you motherfucker. So you're from Florida? But why are you a Yankees fan? He grew up in a Yankees bedroom.
Yeah, my dad's from New York and raised me a diehard. But he didn't raise you any hockey fan?

Speaker 1 No, he's just a baseball fan. No, he's a Panthers fan.

Speaker 7 Panthers and Heat and Dolphins.

Speaker 1 It is kind of crazy that you have the Patriots ahead of the New York Yankees. For the same criteria.
That doesn't make any sense at all, Jake. I don't think much of it made sense.

Speaker 1 He did it in the basement

Speaker 1 over the course of seven hours looking at two highlight videos. It was not that hard to figure out.
Billy, do you have a question for Biz? I do ask for Biz.

Speaker 1 So long.

Speaker 1 See you, boy.

Speaker 1 Actually, so PFT touched upon this earlier with the whole Russia situation. Oh, God.

Speaker 1 Oh, God damn it.

Speaker 1 You thought that was just

Speaker 1 macro dosing. You didn't ask me.
So I was going to say, with all that happening and players might get conscripted, how was your Saturday? Conscripted.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 wait. Let's do one last Saturday.
The weekend was off. You want to just go around the room and say how are Saturdays? What had a great Saturday? My Saturday last week.
I was super hungover.

Speaker 1 I didn't do any. Oh, yeah, you blacked out, right? He puked on the table.

Speaker 2 That was the week I put on the table.

Speaker 1 He threw up on Druski. He threw up on a fucking blackjack table.
That's a never happened.

Speaker 1 That actually didn't happen. That didn't.

Speaker 1 Oh, I believe him.

Speaker 1 Did you see the clip where Druski was like, oh, you threw up on the table? This is the thing.

Speaker 2 This is the thing. No, I didn't see that.
I saw him in the line. I was trying to get money out.
I couldn't even get money out, so I never even played. That's where I was like, I woke up.
I heard that.

Speaker 2 I was like, was that at the table?

Speaker 1 Or you don't remember that, though?

Speaker 2 Yeah. No, I followed up.
I tried to play it.

Speaker 1 What I wanted to say, Wit, I want to give you a chance to just guess one ping-pong ball because Hank has not gotten it. He can never get it.
But I feel like it's not that crazy to never get it once.

Speaker 1 No, it is like everyone else has gotten it. It's statistically harder than Sagetti, who's gotten it five times.

Speaker 1 It's statistically crazier that he hasn't gotten it. I feel like it's statistically harder to get one than it would be not over 400 times.
Yeah. So this is.
200 numbers, 100 numbers?

Speaker 1 Yeah, 100 numbers. It would be like over 600 times.
How many times have we done it?

Speaker 1 Two and a half years. I'm sorry, but 600 times where you have 100 numbers to choose from.
I think it's crazy. We've all gotten it twice.
And it's one number, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Max has been on this show for two months. He's already got it.
Yeah, but he's a finally scummer.

Speaker 1 How many times has it happened?

Speaker 1 All right, so I'm going to give you a chance. I'm going to give you a chance.
This does not count official for Hank or anyone else. You're not going to get 69.
You know what? Let Hank go.

Speaker 1 Let Hank.

Speaker 1 If you guys do it, it should always count. Yeah, 69.
17. All right, so this counts for you.
19.

Speaker 1 They started, like, they just started.

Speaker 2 They just steal my number. PFT just says it right away.

Speaker 1 Well, the number is the number, Hank. Hank, the number isn't working.
We decided. Maybe time to switch.
True. We decided to do it.
You just want to get it with your number? No, I'm just like,

Speaker 2 if this comes up 17 now, I'll probably just fucking, I'll end it.

Speaker 1 You're going to relegate yourself to hell. 28.

Speaker 1 So, three for Max, four for Hank, 18 for Jake. 19.
19 for Witt. 17.
16. 17, 69, 28.
Okay.

Speaker 1 This counts officially. So there'll be two on this show.
Wait, wait, wait. So,

Speaker 1 and he always takes 17. Every every single time.
What's your number, Hank? Four. Oh, man, this is going to be 17 a hundred percent.
If he gets it, it would be with me. Oh, Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's kind of brutal. You don't all see it together? Big Cat sees it before anyone else.
I can kind of see it. I can kind of see it.
Oh, I couldn't.

Speaker 1 And I actually sometimes don't, like, you can't actually really fully see it until it's all the way down. So it's suspenseful.
You got to start

Speaker 1 putting some money on it. Well, no, there is.
If he gets it, if he gets it once before January 1st, me and PFT are giving him five grand. But here's the best part.

Speaker 1 If he gets it twice, he has to give us five grand. Or oh, shit.

Speaker 1 So he wants to get it once, but then once he gets it,

Speaker 1 if you can get it December 29th, then laugh at it. Although you guys are going to be on vacation.
You guys don't even work on it. I don't know what vacation is.
Never taking one. Hank does.

Speaker 1 I love vacation.

Speaker 1 You know what? That's probably why Hank hasn't gotten it because he hasn't played a few times. Yeah.

Speaker 1 50% of the time he's on. No, if you puke on a blackjack table, you should be suspended from that game for a week, too.

Speaker 2 Thank God I didn't do that. Yeah.
thank God.

Speaker 1 Boys, thanks for having me. All right, Wit, you're the best listener.
This is Spittin' Chiclets by Pink Whitney. Thank you.

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Speaker 1 And now for something completely different.

Speaker 1 Okay, we are ready to go with one question with the quarterback. And we figured, because the entire segment began with us cold calling our good friend Jared Goff,

Speaker 1 he never really got a full one question with the quarterback. So he said we had to have him back on.
Off a win against the Packers. It is our good friend Jared Goff.
One question with the quarterback.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 I'll start.

Speaker 1 And you get a question at the end as well. My question is:

Speaker 1 on a given day, how many times does Dan Campbell say the word man?

Speaker 1 Man.

Speaker 1 I just said it.

Speaker 1 At least, when we're in the building, players, at least 100.

Speaker 1 At least.

Speaker 1 I'm sure he does it a lot in his interviews,

Speaker 1 but man, man, man. No, he does it a lot.
Yeah. Probably at least 100.
All right, I would want it no other way. This is the beauty of the segment.

Speaker 1 That was a better question. Last time you guys asked me if the queen went up to heaven.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's right. Well, we were on the spot.
You were on the spot, so it wasn't a true one question with a quarterback.

Speaker 1 So the beauty of the segment is we don't talk about our questions before we ask them. So Big Cat stole my question

Speaker 1 about how many times Dan Campbell says, Man, so I'll just audible and I'll just say, How many times a week does Dan Campbell cry? Ooh.

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 I hope not very often. You know, I know we've had some tough losses this year that maybe have caused a few tears, but, you know, hopefully not very often.

Speaker 1 I think maybe after last game was an emotional win against the Packers. Maybe a tear or two was shed, maybe even from myself.
So

Speaker 1 that was a good one. Damn, I would love to ask a follow-up on that, but I can't.
Jake, do you have a question?

Speaker 5 Yeah. Hi, Jared.
Jake Marsh, part of my take podcast.

Speaker 6 When was the last time you bit someone's kneecap off?

Speaker 1 Good question, Jake. Oh, boy.
Oh, boy. You know,

Speaker 1 I've yet to do that. You know, we're waiting for our moment, I think.
If I get on the ground and maybe at the bottom of a pile here coming up,

Speaker 1 try to take a jump. Would be challenging with the face mask situation we got going on in the NFL, but maybe if the helmet comes off, it might have a chance there.
Okay.

Speaker 1 All right, Max, you got a question?

Speaker 1 I think he does. He's looking at his phone.
I think somebody might have memes. Do you have a question? This is good.
I like this. I do have a question.
It's a good one.

Speaker 1 Are you guys addicted to faking punts?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Yes, we are. And, you know, I actually didn't even know that one was happening last week.

Speaker 1 Usually they tell me when I call the silent, hey, man, here comes the fake punt. We do it quite a bit, but last week I didn't even know.
And it's kind of become just like something that we do.

Speaker 1 You know, it's just, all right, jump back off of the field and go back out there. It's just like another play in the playbook at this point for you.
Jack Fox is a weapon. Yes.

Speaker 1 Jack Fox is an absolute weapon. I think Bill Belichick called him that, and he became the highest paid punter about five days later.
So, you know, it's good for him. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, memes, you got a question? I do. Okay.
Did you shake Roger's hand? And if so, how injured is his thumb? Oh, good question, memes. I know that you have been talking about that.

Speaker 1 I don't know how injured his thumb is.

Speaker 1 It looked fine to me, but yes, I did shake his hand. Said, good job, good game, stay healthy.
The old post-game quarterback handshake, and he was on his way.

Speaker 1 But he's a friend of mine and guy I wish the best to.

Speaker 1 Gross. I wish I, yeah, no, I can't.
All right, fuck it.

Speaker 1 So what we learned from that is his thumb's not that injured, so he's just playing like shit on his own. Well, yeah, or he just is throwing games.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right, Jared, do you have a question for us?

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, I just was thinking, is that bench press real? I've always kind of wondered. It is.
It is. It's very real.
It is very real. Me and Billy, actually, I benched more than Billy last year.

Speaker 1 So he... He struggled to put up, I think, I don't think he even got 255 up.
So Billy, we have a chart on the wall, and he came in last place. And the inaugural part might take bench off.

Speaker 1 Just a fun fact. Really? Yeah.
Yeah. Who came in first place? Oh, I guess that was me.
Yeah, I guess that was me. Thanks for watching.
And Max. Max also can bench a lot, but he wasn't part of it.

Speaker 1 Max benches like 285. Yeah.
No big deal. All right.
We call him one rep Max. Yeah.
I didn't know if you guys were just faking it back there or if it was the real deal in the studio. No, it's real.

Speaker 1 The weights are fake, but the bench press is real.

Speaker 1 Okay, the weights are fake. Yeah, the weights are fake.
These are hollow, but the actual bench bench press is very, very real. So it's a nice little trick we play.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, Jared, thank you. This is one question with the quarterback.
Our other quarterback, Billy, is not here.

Speaker 1 He's coming in, commuting, maybe a little late. His question would have been, how was your Saturday? Yeah, how was your Saturday? Yeah, so that would have been his entire question.

Speaker 1 Not good luck against the Bears, but also maybe text me after and be like, wow, Justin Fields really is that good. Could you do that for me? Justin Fields is good, man.
He's fast. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's fast, man. 180 yards running.
Incredible. Yeah.
So maybe just remind yourself to do that. Like, set a reminder, win, lose, whatever.
Sunday night, like maybe nine o'clock, just text me. Whoa.

Speaker 1 Did your dog just yell?

Speaker 1 That's my dog. He's he's fired up right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because he knows Justin Fields. Yeah.
So yeah, just text me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just be like, wow, seeing it in person. That kid is truly special.
Just send me that text, please. I will.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I think he's a tremendous player. Yeah, but no, I need the text.
I need the text after.

Speaker 1 Yeah, sorry. No, it's okay.

Speaker 1 Can you, can you?

Speaker 1 I hope Hank wins the lotto soon. I'll be fine.
No, that's not gonna happen. He's never gonna win it.
That's not gonna happen. Oh, pick a number.

Speaker 1 We haven't finished the end of the show, but just pick a number. We'll let you have a number because it'd be great if you won and Hank didn't.

Speaker 1 I will do number.

Speaker 1 You should do 17.

Speaker 1 Ooh, I was.

Speaker 1 You should take 17.

Speaker 1 I'm gonna do 57.

Speaker 1 57. All right.
So I'll text you and let you know if you win this. I just, I'm addicted to getting other people involved now because if they win it and he doesn't, it'll be so great.

Speaker 1 It's really tremendous. I mean, it's really hard to believe how he's done it for that long.
It's really incredible. It's like the odds are stacked against him.
He's been doing this for two years.

Speaker 1 He just, he can't get it. Everyone else has gotten it.
He's a mathematical anomaly. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And what's the bet now if he does get it once or something?

Speaker 1 If he gets it once before January 1st, pft and i owe him five thousand dollars but if he gets it twice before january 1st he owes us five thousand dollars and if he has zero he owes us five thousand dollars as well actually saying it out loud now i'm realizing we completely swindled him on this deal That's a bad bet for him.

Speaker 1 We gave him the option. He agreed to it.
So Hank's pride really took over on that one. But you're definitely better at him at calling balls.
I really hope you get 57. That'd be so sweet.

Speaker 1 All right, so I'll text the update and don't hope that Hank ever gets it because he will never get it. So don't waste your hope on that.
Use it for something else. Okay.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'll be following along, though, just to see his misery every week. Okay.
All right. Thanks, Jared.
Appreciate it, man.

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Speaker 1 FAQs, Hank. Sup, fellas.
What's up?

Speaker 2 Are you guys aware of how much of a constant you are in your AWL's lives? Every Monday, Wednesday, Friday, I get excited to drive to work so I can listen.

Speaker 2 I watch football games on Sunday and think, I can't wait until they talk about that thing that just happened. Basically, my question is, are you aware of how important you are to us?

Speaker 1 That's very cool to hear.

Speaker 1 Sometimes we become aware when we meet people like, for example, in the airport in Chicago last Thursday, and there was a guy that was waiting for us outside the gate, and he handed his phone to his girlfriend to take the picture of us.

Speaker 1 And he goes, these are the podcast guys that I listen to all the time. And the look on her face is

Speaker 1 these fucking guys. Yeah.
Like, we're basically the third wheel in their relationship. Yes.
That's always fun to see. I really like that.
It is very weird.

Speaker 1 I think that we... kind of put our heads down and live in our own world a little bit where we're just, you know, doing this job, love this job, but we don't sometimes sometimes take a step back.

Speaker 1 Like, I, I don't know if I've said this on this show, but like we,

Speaker 1 two weeks ago, I texted the group out of the blue because I was just, I don't know, I was just scrolling on Twitter and scrolling like through the podcast charts and I saw like we're top 10 podcast episode on Spotify and iTunes.

Speaker 1 The only ones bigger are Joe Rogan and news, news podcasts. or like crime podcasts.

Speaker 1 And I texted the group, I was like, we should just, for a second, just be like, holy shit, like, we've been number one for a very long time.

Speaker 1 We don't really brag about it, but it's like, we should remember how big this is and how cool it is that we all get to do this job.

Speaker 1 And then, when, like PFT said, when we, when we go out and meet people and they're like, I listen to you every week, I've been listening for seven years. Like, fuck, man, that's that's awesome.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't, it does kind of blow my mind.

Speaker 1 I do have to do that more often where I take a step back or we get a message from someone being like going through a tough time and you guys have been the constant.

Speaker 1 Like, those messages always make what we do feel so much cooler than

Speaker 1 I think we give ourselves credit for. So let's pat ourselves on the back.
It gives me a great idea, Pat Pat Pat. Pat Pat, because you know, we don't.

Speaker 1 There are people who maybe sometimes brag about rankings, we don't do it, but like we should every now and then brag about the fact that we've been number one for a really long time.

Speaker 1 When you're number one, you don't really have to tell people that you're number one right often. But it's not bad to say.
It's cool.

Speaker 1 It's like a cool thing because I think we forget sometimes how big this podcast has been for how long.

Speaker 1 Like, you you know, sometimes we do this show and it feels like we're doing it for just ourselves when it's obviously not the case.

Speaker 1 Oh, sorry. I was just going to say, Piquet gave me a great idea because there are some crime podcasts that do numbers.
If we had Billy commit a crime,

Speaker 1 and then Jake had to solve it. Yeah.
Cold case. I like it.
Billy football.

Speaker 2 Yeah, not to get too deep, but I remember when we first started and, you know, it was just us three.

Speaker 2 I was doing a lot of the socials and we'd see messages like that where it's like, you know, you're helping me go through all this time.

Speaker 2 And in my head, I would read that and kind of be like, we're just three dudes fucking around with each other it's not that serious it's kind of surprising people felt that way and then obviously a couple years ago I went through a breakup it was like a work thing and

Speaker 2 I wanted to get away from work or like go home and I would watch like streamers like video game streamers has nothing to do with work and I and it's like you're I felt that like you're hanging out with them you're laughing right you get away from it and then going through that I was like oh these guys are helping me get through something they have no idea they're just playing video games fucking around with each other but that being there helped me and that put in perspective like what we do for everyone else.

Speaker 2 So that definitely is some good perspective and it's helped me realize like how helpful something like this can be.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I think it's healthy that we don't stop and think about that too much because we are like it is good that the show always does feel like just guys fucking around in a room.

Speaker 1 I think that's what people like. But I also have those moments where I think about big picture.
I'm like, we are important to a lot of people and it's like, it touches me.

Speaker 1 I know this is, you know, I don't want to get emotional, but I like really am

Speaker 1 like touched by that. Like, it is, no, but you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Like, it's, it really is like something that when I think about and like your, I don't want to say legacy, but like what you mean to other people, it's fucking awesome.

Speaker 1 And I'm I appreciate everyone who listens and stands by us and who's been ride or die. And even if you're someone who is like, fuck it, I don't like these guys anymore.

Speaker 1 And then you come back, it's okay. We don't have to talk about that.
Yeah, you're back. The door's always open.
Yeah, the door's always open. You can always leave.
You can't get it.

Speaker 1 I always crash at my pad. And that was a very big part.
I know I talked about it about eight months ago or however long ago it was, six months ago,

Speaker 1 when I did my new contract here.

Speaker 1 I didn't want to leave. Obviously, I love you guys, but also the relationship that we have with our listeners that we've developed over the course of seven years.

Speaker 1 Like, there are relationships that I used to have when I was a kid with people that I would listen to on the radio, or whether it would be like a host, a DJ, or like my favorite band, that sort of thing, where I felt like there was a relationship there.

Speaker 1 And that meant a lot to me then. And I realized that there are people that feel that same way about us right now.

Speaker 1 And that's not something that I ever want to take for granted because it could be, you know, somebody could promise the world to you to go across the street.

Speaker 1 But sometimes you have to realize that what you have at home is really what you ultimately want to be at. Now, the opposite side of that is kind of scary because like

Speaker 1 when you think about the fact that there's like 14 year olds listening to this and we're like raising them, there's going to be a whole world of, yeah, I mean, Billy, look how Billy's turned out.

Speaker 1 That's I've been listening since sophomore time. Yeah, that's scary.

Speaker 1 That scares me a little bit because it's like, there'll someday be an article being like, why is the world fucked up? Oh, all these fucking people listen to Part of My Take at a too young of an age.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they'll be like, girls can't come. Yeah.
That's what most, that's what most adults aren't real.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Periods aren't real. Periods aren't real.

Speaker 1 Justin Fields sucks, even though he has five Super Bowls by then.

Speaker 1 Really, once Billy starts actually committing the serious crimes, then we'll obviously be able to make the crime podcast, but that will be our canary in the coal mine to tell that like all the listeners that have grown up on part of my take are now starting to turn into criminals all at once.

Speaker 1 Yes, that is coming. All right, we'll wrap up with a couple quick ones.

Speaker 2 Would love to get a peek behind the editing process. How often do you cut interview questions or redo segments that the AWLs never end up hearing?

Speaker 1 Almost never. Very, very rarely.

Speaker 2 A lot in the beginning.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I would say there's

Speaker 1 probably one joke between me and PFT every month that we're like, hey, that was maybe, let's just cut that because it's like, you know, someone could think that's insensitive.

Speaker 1 And then in interviews, like, maybe sometimes we'll cut a little bit just if it's long, but it's very, very little.

Speaker 1 Or actually, like the first time we had Blake Bortles on the show, he wasn't, he didn't even say anything bad, but he said something that could be interpreted as being bad if someone were to be trying to get him.

Speaker 1 So we're just like, okay, we'll take that out of the interview.

Speaker 1 And then, you know, besides that, we'll just text Max Homa after the show is over and ask him to take any of it out. It's very, very, very, very small.
I'd say once every

Speaker 1 20 episodes.

Speaker 2 I also think back to when it was just us three sometimes and laughed that we were

Speaker 2 hell-bent on episodes not being over like

Speaker 2 in 120 minutes or whatever. So if it did, we would have to cut stuff out.
And that was always a process.

Speaker 1 And it's like, no, you're just stuck with us. Yeah.

Speaker 2 All right. Last one.
I like this one.

Speaker 1 Where'd it go?

Speaker 2 Sup, fellas, if the championship deciding game of every major sport was happening on the same weekend, what order would you put the games in to have the best weekend viewing experience?

Speaker 1 Oh, that's a great question. I think

Speaker 1 Game 7 World Series

Speaker 1 Friday night.

Speaker 1 Okay, I'd go probably hockey, game seven. I was going to say Game 7 Stanley Cup Saturday night on that.
And then I would go, yeah,

Speaker 1 I was thinking just Saturday, Sunday, I was going to go Game 7 hockey Saturday afternoon, game seven World Series Saturday night, game seven NBA title on Sunday afternoon,

Speaker 1 Super Bowl Sunday night.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Super Bowl Sunday night is easy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Super Bowl Sunday night. It's so easy.
Obviously,

Speaker 1 I would say

Speaker 1 World Series Friday night, and then Saturday morning, Saturday afternoon, I would go college football championship. Oh, yeah, that's it.
Saturday evening, I would then do

Speaker 1 Stanley Cup. I would put that as my evening because that could run long.
I wouldn't want that to bleed over into the World Series. And then, yeah, your Sunday is Saturday.

Speaker 1 I would do the college football Friday night, so it's a football sandwich.

Speaker 2 I would do NBA

Speaker 2 Saturday night and baseball during the day Sunday because it's longer. Yeah.
You know, there's potential for that being, that could be all day.

Speaker 2 That could go from one o'clock till the Super Bowl starts.

Speaker 1 And then it's a day off, and then

Speaker 1 Monday, you get the Masters in the afternoon.

Speaker 1 Oh, Monday's day off. I was just saying, why not Super Bowl on a Saturday or Friday night? Like, so there's the next day off.
Well, I just want to say that. Well, you have the other games, though.

Speaker 1 But yeah, Super Bowl Saturday night would be sick. That's what I'm saying.
Super Bowl Saturday Night should happen. Although, Super Bowl Sunday, it's in the name.

Speaker 1 I have one more. Hey, PMT, I'm a new listener.
Notice you guys guess a lottery ball at the end of every show and was wondering if you give us how many times each person has won.

Speaker 1 I assume everyone has won since it's almost impossible not to get at least once, right? Yeah. I've won twice.
I believe I've won twice as well. Five times.
Five times, Jake.

Speaker 1 I thought you won six to eight times. Four memes? Memes has won it once.

Speaker 1 No, well, you don't guess all that many times. Max is what? Max slash memes have won it once.
So that chair is won at once. If memes wins it today.
Oh, that would be incredible.

Speaker 1 That'd be pretty awesome. You? Have you ever won it?

Speaker 2 Liam won post-mostly. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Have you ever won it, hey? I have not. Oh.

Speaker 1 That's weird. Are we doing numbers now? Yeah, we're doing numbers.
16.

Speaker 1 69. I think you guys got a rock, paper, scissors, shoot for it.

Speaker 1 Rock, paper, scissors, shoot.

Speaker 5 It's going to be a $5,000 rock, paper, scissors, shoot.

Speaker 1 Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. I beat you.
All right, so I'm taking 10. FTS 17.
18. 18, 69 for Billy.

Speaker 1 3. The fear and 3.
3 for me.

Speaker 1 Jared Goff has 57. You heard him say that?

Speaker 1 71. 71.
All right. I'll go

Speaker 1 70. Put the 44 back in.
Yeah, there we go. No, Mickey Mouse.

Speaker 1 Hank, have you sure you're not gotten this?

Speaker 1 I don't know, man. I feel like you've gotten this before.

Speaker 2 I don't like this loose list.

Speaker 1 I want 17. I want 17 so bad.

Speaker 1 What did I guess? 70.

Speaker 1 44. Oh!

Speaker 1 Back to back.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. 44 is hot right now.
Whoa. Back to back.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 1 Has that ever happened before?

Speaker 5 I think so.

Speaker 1 I'll check. Oh, my God.

Speaker 5 I feel like it's happened once.

Speaker 1 Wow. Maybe not.
Like somebody saying you had, you literally could have just guessed 44 one of the last two times you would have won. Yeah, you cut your odds in half.

Speaker 1 It was basically a 50-50 chance.

Speaker 5 March March of 2022, 72 back-to-back.

Speaker 1 Wow. It's amazing.
Tough luck, Hank. Love you guys.
Some goats wash their teeth with other goats as piss.

Speaker 1 so good to me.

Speaker 1 Give me your hand, babe.

Speaker 1 You've been so good to me.

Speaker 1 You look sadly.

Speaker 1 Say after me,

Speaker 1 It's the better to be safe and touchy. Things that you say

Speaker 1 is a little idea. But just to play my worries away.

Speaker 1 You all the things I've got to remember. You shine away.

Speaker 1 Love it comes with everybody like

Speaker 1 you shine away.

Speaker 1 Love it comes with everybody like you.

Speaker 1 I'll

Speaker 1 know

Speaker 1 that