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Today is Wednesday, November 9th, and I am so sick of the Saints shit. Yeah, yeah, I mean, that's a good way to put it.
I've heard a lot of people clamoring for Jameis Winston, myself included. I'm currently clamoring for him right now.
He's got four broken backs. How about the fact the Saints have three quarterbacks and two of them are objectively very fun and interesting, and we had to watch Nice Guy, but we had to watch Andy Dalton struggle on Monday Night Football.
That's what I'm saying. If you give me

Taysom Hill, give me the Taysom Hill game.

I want the experiment.

The grand experiment. Let's see if

a dose of Taysom Hill,

that tends to work. Why don't we build the entire

offense out of Taysom Hill? I want to see

that or I want to see Jameis Winston, but

as Jameis1of1 has pointed out

several times, he's the most injured quarterback

maybe in the NFL. He's lucky he's alive right now.
Jameis1of1 actually reached out to me and said, Hey, bro, how is what Dennis Allen did to Jameis Winston? Not a bigger story in New Orleans, if not nationally. And he went on to just say that...
Did he say Dennis Allen reinserted his QB1, who has just broken four vertebrae in his back? Yeah. Six to ten weeks standing recovery time.
So free Jameis. Not a great Monday Night Football game, but the Ravens' defense looks very scary.
Very, very scary. Well, when they're tackling, it does.
It does when they're tackling. I still think that that was the play, the touchdown for the Saints, he was out of bounds, and they just didn't review it.
They, like, didn't even... They didn't...
I felt like his foot was out of bounds. They just – they're like, ah, fuck it.
This game's over. The guy that – the quarterback that just reacted like he was – he should be cut.
Yeah. Play till the whistle.
He stopped, and he just pointed at the line. He was like, that's where he stepped out.
Yeah, you probably should say – Cut him, lose a bet from that. You should finish.
Yeah, the game started. The Ravens scored, and I was like, this game's over.
I bet a minus 17. Oh, no.
With crazy big odds. Oh, no.
So, obviously, it wasn't like everyone felt the back door, but I did. Yeah.
And I was furious. Damn.
Lamar Jackson was incredible again last night. No.
Lamar Jackson is maybe my favorite quarterback to watch when I don't have a dog in the fight. He was angry last night.
He was very angry I like that I'm a little concerned big cat though like is he gonna take in all these hits is he gonna be able to last in the NFL that's a good question that's a very good question I I like seeing Lamar that angry because I do think he's one of those guys that cares uh more like everyone cares but I feel like Lamar is in the top echelon of caring about like his team and his play and like you just see it week to week he really fucking cares like it's not just a job to him he really fucking wants to like win he puts the team on his back yeah he does and I this might be recency bias but I have uh made a wager on the Baltimore Ravens to win the Super Bowl at 13 to 1 so I I'll talk myself through it but I basically was thinking to myself I probably should get an AFC team because I have my Eagles uh and after watching Sunday watching what the Jets did to the Bills watching what the Titans almost did to the Chiefs why not defense why not defense why not everyone's like oh you know no one's gonna be able to keep up with the Bills and the Chiefs. Why not defense? Why not defense? Why not everyone's like, oh, you know,

no one's going to be able to keep up with the Bills and the Chiefs offense.

Why aren't we looking for defense?

It also gives you a good opportunity to just root for your guy at linebacker.

Again, Roquan.

Yeah, Roquan Smith.

So that's nice.

You get to just transfer that.

You got two birds.

Big bird.

Yeah, two birds.

I'm rooting for the birds.

Roquan Smith, Bowser's back.

I think he was a second-round draft pick. He would have been a first round draft pick.
Ojabu from Michigan. He's coming back soon.
I worried about their offense. Mark Andrews being out hurts, but I was just thinking about it more.
They're running the ball so well again, and why can't it just be a little zag i also looked it up in uh in terms of defensive rushing against the only afc uh team in the top five is the tennessee titans so maybe just don't play the tennessee titans again yeah don't play the tennessee titans and the ravens can win the super so if you go up against the bills that's going to be tough because they almost beat the bills. So the thing about the Tennessee Titans and the Ravens can win the Super Bowl.
So if you go up against the Bills, that's going to be tough because... They almost beat the Bills.
So the thing about the Bills' defense, I think we talked about this last Sunday, they're engineered to stop Patrick Mahomes. Right.
They pretty much built their entire defense around get to a quarterback that's going to dice you up with his arm. Lamar is a little bit different.
Their entire running game is built a little bit differently. So I could actually see the Ravens being a pretty good matchup defense-wise against either the Chiefs or the Bills.
But yeah, when you do run into the Titans, who they play Ravens-style defense. And they play Ravens-style just like, hey, our passing offense isn't the best.
Let's just fucking punch you in the mouth over and over. Yeah, I think either one of those teams could beat each other.
And this might sound very stupid, but I kind of like, you know, 2018, we obviously had talked about it a lot when Lamar won the MVP, and I was on the – was it 2018, 2019? I think it was 2018. When I kept on saying they're frauds, and I thought they were going to be out, and they lost to the Titans, they were the one seed.
I like the Ravens as, like, not the one seed. I like when people are sleeping on the Ravens because everyone said the Chiefs and the Bills are the two teams in the AFC.
I just think they're a fucking tough-ass team, and their defense is going to keep getting better. And Lamar, I don't know.
Could you imagine? Wouldn't that be so Ravens, too, for Lamar to win the Super Bowl in a contract year? And they have to pay him the flacco? That would be that he would pull a full flacco on you. Starting to all come together.
And yeah, I don't know what's going to happen after the Super Bowl or after the season's over with Lamar because he's in a very weird situation where he's representing himself and it's be careful what you wish for on both accounts. So if you want to let him walk at the end of the season, you're not going to get another Lamar Jackson draft.
You're not going to trade for another Lamar Jackson. You're going to have to go out there and find somebody.
That's going to suck for a while for the Ravens. But also if you're Lamar, that offense was built for you by, what, Greg Roman.
It was built by Harbaugh, who I guess his brother helped design that offense to begin with and perfected it with Kaepernick to a certain extent, who got beat by Joe Flacco's Ravens. Who's also Greg Roman, right? Who's also Greg Roman.
Greg Roman was with the 49ers, correct? I believe so, yeah. Yeah, so this is like, it's a good situation for both the Ravens and Lamar.
I hope they work something out because I could see Lamar going someplace where he doesn't have that exact same offense, might not have the exact same autonomy in that new offense that he's getting into and he might be like this sucks I wish I was still on the Ravens I did love the story that Lamar said he didn't realize what he was signing against the Bucs on Thursday night that said like pay Lamar yeah and Joe Buck gave that anecdote he's like he said afterwards he didn't know what he was signing and then we had the other anecdote which I loved from loved from Monday night, the tattoo guy, total psycho, crazy NFL fan. NFL fans are the craziest, and it's very funny.
He gets, I don't know if you guys were listening or if you were on the Manning cast, but he gets a tattoo after every win that symbolizes that win. So when they beat the Bucs, it was like a sword through the Bucs logo.
And the Ravens official account tweets them all out, except for he got one that just said, pay Lamar.

Oh, no, sorry.

It was the sword through the Raiders logo.

The Bucs one was the pay Lamar one.

They didn't tweet that one out.

Interesting.

So it was, you know, I just kind of like that story.

But, yeah, I'm sure there will be Ravens fans be like,

oh, you're jinxing us.

Guess what?

I don't control who's going to win the Super Bowl. and i wanted to have a team in the afc as well so it's a substantial wager on the ravens 13 to 1 i also i'm still gonna make fun of the ravens if they if they choke oh no i'm not allowing your future to take my joy no no listen i i i am too like the i was actually talking to max about this in the car today.
He was like, I was like, you know, if the Eagles get to the NFC Championship game, that will be an incredible stream. I'm going to be there rooting with you guys.
And I was like, but you do know that if the Eagles lose, I will switch so fast to just troll because that's just money for me. It's not my fandom.
And I'm still rooting for the Bills. Yeah, I am too.
Bills and the Colts and the AFC. Those are my teams.
So that was part of this thought process as well. Is Josh Allen okay? I hope he's okay, but I'm worried he's not okay.
I'm going to put on my doctor's hat for a second because I'm currently recovering from the same injury that Josh Allen has right now. We're very similar.
I hurt mine in a golf simulation. He hurt his elbow getting sacked by a defensive end on the Jets.
So Billy has injected my arm with research chemicals, but besides that, I haven't really done any sort of recovery on it, and I'm fine. I feel like I can go about my day and do my job on a regular basis.
So I expect Josh Allen to also be fine. I hope he's fine, but I'm worried that it might be more serious.
So I was thinking about it. I was like, well, if he's hurt for a while, this could be a problem.
Yeah. Billy, you look like you have something to say medically.
I just helped you avoid surgery. Yeah.
Well, no. Thank you.
Basically, me being lazy helped me avoid. Me not scheduling surgery is really what made me avoid the surgery.
And not the injection. What were you going to say, Hank? He's just a running quarterback, and that's just kind of the risk you take.
Yeah, they always get hurt. Take big hits.
They get hurt. Also, PFT doesn't have to use his arm for his job.
True. I type.
What are you talking about? What's that? Nothing. I didn't say anything.
Not for his job. No, it's No Nut November.
Yeah, right. I actually picked a perfect time.
Yeah. Well, you got hurt three months ago.
I just months ago it's a perfect time to be re-hurt listen i haven't come in three years i'm my body just resorbs all the protein and energy that's why i'm so masculine and so horny that's why my tea's so high yeah right i was also gonna say likely has been really good uh likely is really good mark andrew. Again, there's probably, I would say there's a 1% chance that either of my futures get to the Super Bowl.

But I, because it's just me and I'm the worst gambler of all time.

Has there ever been a Bird Bowl?

Bird Bowl would be fun.

Bird Bowl, I think there has been a Bird Bowl.

Ooh, Bird Bowl.

Yeah, the Bird Bath.

Ooh, has there?

Two birds, one stone. Huh.
It had to be. I don't know if there has been a bird bull.
That's where the two in the bush. The Eagles played the Raiders and the Patriots in the Super Bowl.
Patriots have never lost to a bird team. That's the first search when you type in Super Bowl bird teams.
Okay, thanks. Thanks for clearing that up.
Falcons played the Broncos in the Super Bowl. I don't think so.
Give me other bird teams. The Cardinals played the Steelers.
All but one of the five bird teams have made the Super Bowl. Seahawks played the Steelers.
Seahawks played the Broncos. Seahawks played the Steelers.
Seahawks played the Broncos. Panthers played the Patriots.
Ravens 49ers. Seahawks Patriots.
Falcons Patriots. Eagles Patriots.
Ravens Giants. Cardinals have never made it.
Ravens Giants. Yeah.
So no bird. No, the Cardinals have made the Super Bowl.
Yeah, it's it. They lost to the Steelers.
Oh, yeah. Because aren't all the bird teams pretty new besides the Eagles? Seahawks have been around for a while.
Seahawks have been around for a while. They're new to the NFC.
Yeah. I just said Panthers for the birds.
I don't know why I said that. I was like, the Panthers played the Patriots.
They're bird adjacent. That's not a bird team.
They are rocking the all-black jerseys on Thursday night. So, thank God, at least we're getting the Falcons and the Panthers on Thursday night.
At least we're getting a new uniform to get us through this. One last stat for you.
Ravens have faced the third hardest schedule for opposing offenses. So, that was the other part.
I looked at their schedule. I think they played the Jags, Steelers twice.
They could lose maybe one more. They could very much have four losses going into the playoffs.
So, yeah, Ravens. I'm hoping that it's kind of like my Villanova when I trashed Villanova in 2015 and then I hopped on their bandwagon in 2016, hoping this just turns all the way around.
I like the Ravens. I like Patrick Ricard.
I want Patrick Ricard to get a house. He's insane.
The fact that he's able to move is nuts. His body defies, as Billy says, he's like the Kool-Aid man in terms of his proportions.
He's exactly as wide as he is tall and he runs probably like a 4.8, 4.7 40. And thanks for that tip, Hank.
Good tip, Hank Appreciate that. Oh, and then, not to brag, but we called it.
Talked about that at the beginning. Deshaun Jackson.
Deshaun Jackson had a, I think he had one catch and a hamstring injury. Yeah.
Last night. Perfect.
That's the Deshaun Jackson hat trick. Kevin White also had a catch.
I'm very much in the, similar to the 50-50 raffle. When Kevin White finally scores a touchdown, because I bet on him every time he gets elevated, I will be exactly even for my life betting on him to score a touchdown.
He's always like 20-1. He's never scored a touchdown in the NFL, which is sad.
I will say with Patrick McCart, I did give the tip to the group, Patrick McCart first touchdown score. They got in a third-and-one goal line situation, except it was on like the 40 yard line and they ran patrick card so if that so wait it's that wasn't goal line but it was a goal line type goal line was on the play was just ran at the and they ran near the goal first time they're in a situation wait if the 40 yard line was the goal line but it was 31 we would have won yeah if yeah they had a one yard play in place that was him so they wasted it yes But if that was in the goal line, you would have gotten a touchdown.
We would have won. Yeah.
They had a one-yard play in place.

Yeah, they used him, so they wasted it.

Yes.

But if that was in the goal line, I would have been right.

Yeah, that's true.

If my aunt had pedals, she'd be a bicycle.

Yeah.

We can now get refund for that.

I think so.

Yeah.

Be like, hey, watch this play.

See this?

Pretty much a touchdown.

Just pretend that was at the goal line.

I did see a stat that came out last night. You know, we have publicly doubted the Vikings, and we have put some skin literally in the game against them.
A little stat came out saying, Stop asking if the Vikings are a legit 7-1 team. They've played the 13th most difficult schedule this year.
The 49ers have played the 23rd. Seahawks played the 24th.
Giants the 27th. And the Eagles have played the 31st ranked schedule.
But the Vikings lost to the Eagles. By a lot.
Who have the 31st ranked strength of schedule. So does that mean that the Eagles are only good because they play a weak schedule, including the Vikings? That's where you start wrapping your head in the circular logic.
Right. That doesn't make any sense.
I'm still very comfortable with where we stand. I am as well.
I am as well. And we just need Josh Allen to be healthy and the Bills to just shit pump him.
Because that will scare me. If there's a healthy Josh Allen and the Vikings go to Buffalo and beat the Bills.
Who's the backup in Buffalo? Case Keenum. Case Keenum.
Case Keenum. Case Keenum going to Minnesota with Stefan Diggs.

Double revenge game.

I love the Bills this weekend.

I don't care who's playing quarterback.

Case Keenum revenge game.

What were you going to say, Jake?

Vikings have a favorable schedule.

They only go on the road two more times this year.

What?

This calendar year. Oh, you did that.
And one of them is at Detroit. At Buffalo and then at Detroit.
And then the last two games at Green Bay and Chicago. But they better be careful what they wish for.
Oh, yeah, you can't do that. They keep winning these games.
They're going to get flexed into prime time. And then look at this fine nest of hell that you created for yourself, Kirk Cousins.
You can't do that, Jake. There's two games past New Year's.
Yeah, they both have them on the road. Yeah, you duped us.
That sounds crazy at the beginning of November, right? Classic announcer trick that you just did. Okay, other story.
Jim Irsay has lost his mind. So Jim Irsay, we, as first reported on Pardon My Take, because we actually, I'd say if we had one thing that we do better than anyone else, it's when we can basically read the tea leaves of a coach getting fired based on quotes from an owner and their actions.
We've been talking about Frank Reich basically being fired a month ago when all this started. He finally was fired on Monday.
And in an absolutely shocking turn of offense, Jeff Saturday is the new coach of the Colts. If you're probably saying, hey, where was Jeff Saturday coaching? He wasn't.
He was at ESPN. That's not exactly true, Big Cat.
He was coaching two years ago. Two years ago, high school.
Oh, yeah, yeah, high school. So Jim Merce has hired Jeff Saturday.
He then gave a press conference. He was asked if he's experienced.
He said, yes, he is fully experienced enough. He actually, my favorite part of the press conference.
he was asked if he's experienced he said yes he is fully experienced enough uh he actually my favorite part of the press conference capable was when he said that it's actually a good thing that he doesn't have any nfl experience yeah so because that way he doesn't have all this fear that goes along with a lot of guys who are nfl coaches that have to turn to analytics yeah he's so it turned into like a rant of jim ursay against like this guy doesn't know shit about numbers so therefore he can never use numbers he's so dumb he's smart i'm starting to believe in in jeff saturday yeah this experiment now if you're not rooting for jeff saturday uh you're a nerd with a calculator where your nut should be because this is going to be this is what makes the nfl so fun is that we get this guy that's completely unqualified for the job.

He's going to have to learn, number one, how to do all the boring shit involved in being an NFL head coach.

Like scheduling meetings, figuring out cafeteria times, transportation, hotels.

It would be a miracle if they just show up on the sidelines on time against the Raiders.

He is being thrown to the wolves. He has no idea what he's doing.
There's nobody on the sidelines on time against the Raiders. He is being thrown to the wolves.

He has no idea what he's doing.

There's nobody on the team that calls plays.

Plays, yes.

They fired the offensive coordinator, and then they fired the coach.

It's going to be awesome to watch.

You are right, though, PFT.

This Jeff Saturday situation is like –

I know I'm right.

He's basically – I mean, Jeff Saturday, when they talked about it afterwards,

they asked him what he felt when Jim Merce called him. He said, shocked would be an understatement.
Yeah. Shocked would be an understatement.
He's also playing the Raiders, who just last week, he said the Raiders are garbage on Twitter. Jeff Saturday did because he was an ESPN analyst watching games on his couch.
And now we have Jeff Saturday, the coach. Jim Merce also said we were lucky to get that he was available which I what was he doing otherwise besides being on ESPN it made it sound like every other coach that he called was busy yeah like running errands this weekend yeah he said he said I've never hired a losing coach it's right there in black and white yeah last interim coach that he hired won a Super Bowl.
Yep, that's true. He said, I've never hired a losing coach.
It's right there in black and white. Yeah.
Last interim coach that he hired won a Super Bowl. Yep, that's true.
He said that Ballard, Chris Ballard is a winner, which where? Where has he shown that he's a winner? Well, I guess he's above 500, right? Yeah, I guess that would technically be winning. I actually think this is going to sound crazy, but with the way this colts thing has worked out jim ursay frank wright chris ballard i think i actually take carson wentz's side in the breakup so because like they remember how much they bashed him and were like he's not a leader he's the reason we lost the jags now that we've moved away from it you know eight months and we've seen some more stuff i think carson wentz was not the problem it was just all the other guys there's a lot of weird stuff going on in indy and uh i think it's fair to also ask the question is sam ellinger a coach killer yeah so he steps in and then immediately like two weeks later boom frank reich's fired a lot of people are saying it i just wanted to give a platform to it also quick stat correction about that colts game it was 75 and sunny in new england yeah it was it was not it was raining earlier in the day it was not it was not i know that i was kind of there you were there what does that mean you were there i was within unpack i was within 100 miles of the stadium and it was raining where you were yeah um okay but not earlier in the day okay but there was a passing shower so you you got rained on while you were not there at a different time than the game was being played it was wet the conditions were wet okay like in the beginning conditions were well jim mercy also said that he likes to operate like the cia yeah hiring a head coach which is i don't know what that means if he was interrogating him if there was waterboarding spending some time in South America, Jim Merce probably enjoys that sort of thing.
How much does he hate the rest of the staff that he just called Jeff Saturday? Like everyone else has. Is Chuck Pagano on the staff? No, not Chuck Pagano.
Gus Bradley, is he on the staff? I don't know who else is on the staff. I feel like Gus Bradley's always on.
Oh, yeah, Reggie Wayne's on the staff. I actually think that they handled this hire.
Gus Bradley is. Much like you and I handled when we first tried to call a quarterback on our show.
Yeah. And we're like, yeah, let's just go through our phone and see who we know, who we'll pick up, and then we start scrolling.
I think Jim Irsay did that, except with people that he thought could potentially coach his team. So he's like, oh, I love Saturday.
I love Jeff Saturday. Yeah, let's get him involved.
This actually makes sense. Jim Irsay is just like, everything is reversed.
When he called Chris Ballard a winner, I think he means because Chris Ballard was with the Bears when the Colts beat the Bears in the Super Bowl. So he's a winner because Jim Irsay won that experience.
He's been around him. No, but he looks back on that fondly.
He's like, remember when Chris Ballard was a scout for the Bears and we won the Super Bowl against the Bears? Yeah. Winner.
Even though he wasn't on the Colts. There were a lot of pictures being disseminated on social media of Frank Reich yesterday right after he got fired because now the new thing is Adam Schefter has that graphic that he puts out that's got the bottom line ticking across it saying Frank Reich fired.
And there were like three three or four pictures that i saw in a row and i realized that every time i see a picture of frank reich he looks extremely sad yeah he's always he looks like eeyore he looks like he's just walking around crying the the um the the patriots should go get frank reich right now to be their oc because he is a good offensive coordinator he just hasn't been able to run a team team. Here's I'm looking at the Colts coaching staff right now.
This kind of hurts. Do you know who's you know the senior defensive assistant on the Colts coaching staff? No.
John Fox. Oh, really? John Fox on the Colts coaching staff.
You got all that experience, dude. And he didn't.
He was like, let me go. And not only that, like I I'm sure that be – I think Jim Irsay actually has been applauded so much for his work against Dan Snyder.
He's like, I now have amnesty, so the Rooney rule doesn't apply. So he was like, hey, I want a legendary cult to come in and help turn this team around.
When he has Reggie Wayne, who knows the entire personnel who's on the coaching staff. He's like, nah, nah, nah, Jeff Saturday.
Jeff Saturday. I don't think people are prepared for what a bizarre experience this is about to be.
For Jeff Saturday, this is as close to Ted Lasso in the United States as we get. I'm going to bet the Colts.
I'm going to bet the Colts. First thing that I did was put a bet on the Colts.
Yeah, I'm going to bet the Colts. I have to.
I got him at plus six. I think that line's actually moved.
Yeah. Now it's like plus seven now.
But it's going to be so entertaining to see him try to figure out how to run this team. He doesn't know how to call plays.
He doesn't know the personality. He doesn't have a quarterback.
He doesn't have a quarterback. And they said immediately after they hired him.
Well, he has Nick Foles. They're sticking with Sam, though.
Yeah. They made that announcement for him.
I don't know how he came to that conclusion, how much tape he was able to watch. On the defensive side, if you're John Fox, and really you're anybody on this coaching staff, and you find out that they're hiring Jeff Saturday, you're probably looking around the room like, what? Yeah.
Like, why? Why? He doesn't know anything about this. John Fox just probably just grabbed a bottle of beer and was like, fuck it.
Whatever. What are you going to say, Billy? I was just wondering, how much are they paying Saturday? Probably a decent amount.
Why would you get off the couch to get into a situation like that? What are you talking about? He just cuts to the front of the line. Who's saying no to being an NFL coach? He literally just cuts to the front of the line.
If Jeff Saturday does even a halfway good job with the Colts for the rest of the— There's eight games left in in the cold season, I think if he goes four and four, he probably gets the job. He cut the line.
Like he's never coached at any level higher than high school guys. Coach.
I mean, poor Reggie Wayne is trying to fucking someday be a head coach and Jeff Saturday just cut in front of everyone. Now he gets a job.
That's a no brainer for him. But to tarnish your legacy or well- well-loved in Indianapolis? No, no.
I think he's fine. This team is terrible.
I think he's fine. There's nothing he can...
If they just stay terrible, everyone's like, well, he had a no-win situation. It's actually the perfect...
There's no way Jeff Saturday can lose because either he takes a job, the Colts still stink, and everyone's like, oh... It's on Ursa.
Yeah, it's on Ursa, and they still stink, and like, thanks for trying, Jeff. Or they somehow miraculously win a few games, and everyone's like oh it's on earth yeah it's on earth say and they still stink and like thanks for trying jeff or they somehow miraculously win a few games everyone's like jeff saturday yeah my my conspiracy theory says that they hired jeff saturday because they want to hire peyton manning to run the team to be the gm in the future yeah and if they get buddy buddy they're they're buddy buddy they're quite literally butt buddies like peyton manning spent what 15 years with his in his ass hand up jeff saturday's asshole so now jeff saturday is a real life puppet of peyton manning as the head coach just to bring the rest of peyton manning's body from the wrist all the way back i'd be the to be the general manager and then the two of them run the team i feel like this is gonna hurt colts fans and they're already down pretty bad but i i feel like peyton manning likes the broncos way more than the colts doesn't he still live out in Denver I feel like this is going to hurt Colts fans, and they're already down pretty bad, but I feel like Peyton Manning likes the Broncos way more than the Colts.
Doesn't he still live out in Denver? I feel like every time I see him, he's wearing Broncos colors. I feel like he really likes the Broncos.
But he also might be miffed because they didn't bring him in to be general manager of the Broncos. Yeah.
If the Colts offered him to come in and be the general manager with Jeff, I feel like... I think that actually is Billy's point I wouldn't take that if I were Peyton Manning if I was Peyton Manning I would say it might work out perfectly actually for Jim Mercer because check this out Peyton Manning's a smart guy when it comes to football you see him when he's on the Manning cast he's calling out coverages he's calling plays he's immediately calling timeouts when coaches should be calling timeouts and challenges they get jeff saturday to coach the team in order to lure peyton manning and to be the general manager peyton manning sees this happening and says yes i think i will be a general manager because that's what i want to do with my career from here on out he joins the colts and he's like jeff saturday stinks as a head coach he's fired and then then Peyton Manning hires a new coach.
Gets to be the coach.

Gets to be the coach.

He hires himself.

Well, I don't know if he wants to coach.

I think he wants to be like front off.

But Saturday might just be the bait to bring him in

and then they'll cast him aside.

But if I were Peyton Manning, I would not take that job

because that is what Billy's talking about.

You would potentially ruin your legacy.

You would, like, in a situation where Peyton has all the money in the world,

he has to work, you know, what, 10 times a year? And he can go to, like, Tennessee games. He can go to Broncos games.
He can go to Colts games. He's got the life.
Scott Frost. I would not want that.
I think he's competitive, though. Scott Frost.
Scott Frost. Like a return home thing? Yeah, no, if you go back and it doesn't go well.
I mean, I don't think anyone thinks. No, actually, yes, John Elway still is the greatest Bronco of all time,

and every Bronco fan loves him.

But it's definitely soured a little with how the Broncos have been,

and he won a Super Bowl with them as a front office guy.

Which you don't get the next generation that still reveres you.

As a legend, they only know you from what you've done to the team.

It's to Phil Jackson in New York.

What about this?

What if the full job is to get Saturday as head coach

I'm sorry. as a legend.
They only know you from what you've done to the team. It's to Phil Jackson in New York.
What about this?

What if the full job is to get Saturday as head coach,

knowing that he'll suck for the rest of this year,

they get the first overall pick,

and then the Colts, yet again, reload at quarterback?

Bryce Young?

Peyton Manning would probably look at that being a favorable job to walk into. Yeah.

I mean, the only point of comparison is Nick Mangold at Jet Stadium.

Right now, Nick Mangold, everyone loves him.

But if you ever become the head coach, he just bounces around the stadium every game.

Everyone loves him.

His legacy is solidified in New York.

But if he were to become head coach in a bad situation and it'd go really downhill,

all those people who just love him. It's already downhill though that's the point if jeff it's already downhill right they're already a mess jeff saturday's inheriting a mess so it's not his fault but if it keeps being a mess not his fault it already was a mess he didn't change he you know what i mean like he can't no one's gonna be like jeff saturday really fucked this up this team is a complete dumpster fire so it's a it's i don't think he can lose listen i'm rooting for je can't – no one's going to be like, Jeff Saturday really fucked this up.
This team is a complete dumpster fire.

So it's – I don't think he can lose.

Listen, I'm rooting for Jeff Saturday because it's going to be so fun to watch.

And from all accounts, he's a really nice guy.

But he did absolutely jump the line.

Oh, yeah.

He just – there's so many people out there that are on that staff

that would have been a much better hire.

And it is crazy to think about all the things that a coach has to do

besides the X's and O's. Yes.
And calling plays during a game that he's never done before right getting players to the bus on time that that scheduling stuff like that's on a head coach so that's what i'm saying like if they if they manage to get to kickoff have a roster of 53 man men on the sideline that will be impressive yeah agreed on all that jeff saturday it's it's going to be weird the whole thing's going to be weird i'm rooting for and i'm taking the cults and i'm taking the cults all right let's talk some college football um we're recording before the new rankings but i would assume it's going to be georgia one obviously they'll probably do ohio state two then michigan and tcu three four tennessee probably five right outside uh it was a great college Saturday at LSU has this this is the part that sucks because we don't like Brian Kelly but Brian Kelly has always been objectively just an incredible coach and we all knew that this could be turned around that quickly because he is that good of a coach and that win for them on Saturday night, beating Alabama in Baton Rouge for the first time in a decade, it's crazy because it's not – like LSU the last, whatever, 10 years, they had 2019 one of the best teams of all time. But every other year, it's been Bama kind of kicking the shit out of them.
Now, they beat Bama without a team that's one of the best of all time. So, like, LSU fans can now think, like, hey, maybe this is the new norm.
Like, that wasn't they have the greatest team and they beat Bama. That was they were just, like, more disciplined, played a tougher game, and they found a way to win.
And they put their nuts on the line for the two-point conversion. Yeah, like it's a bit it's like a i don't know if i'm expressing it correctly but it it feels different because this now feels like it could be brian kelly could create a team at lsu that consistently can beat alabama not one year where you have the like this incredible incredible uh team and talent it's no every year lsu should be able to compete with Bama.
Yeah, so it's a difference of being able to try to recruit players by saying, we want guys that have a chip on their shoulder because we want to be able to start beating Bama. Right.
To saying, we want guys that are just the best. Right.
And that's a pretty big difference because sometimes the guys that have a chip on their shoulder, turns out they have a chip on their shoulder for a reason. Yes.
And maybe they're not at that same level as the guys that they should be beating. So it's more powerful to be like, we are better than them.
Come here if you want to win. Right.
That's a much better way to recruit somebody than being like, come here if you want to change the culture so that we can win. Right.
And it's crazy to say, but LSU could be in the college football playoff if they went out i think they would probably get in and uh tennessee fans would riot and they would probably have a very fair case because they did go to lsu and beat them you think a two loss lsu team would get in over a one loss tennessee if if the other things broke a certain way yeah because i think it would be ohio state or michigan tcu complicates everything if tcu runs the table it complicates everything whoever they're playing it's like final destination for whoever team quarterback is right right and it's they play texas baylor and uh at home against iowa state i don't think they'll run the table but let's just say they do now you have an lsu team that the the the committee always takes into account winning your conference, an LSU team that beat Bama, an LSU team that then beat Georgia, and it's like, what have you done for me lately? That FSU game feels like forever ago. I think it would be pretty tough.
I think it would be pretty tough because it would be like the ending of their season. They would have racked up these big wins and you also have to ask like who's playing the best football right now right and i think if tennessee fans again would have every right to be upset if l if lsu if they beat georgia uh in the sec championship i i do tend to agree that they probably get in over a one lost tennessee team and that would be it would be the ultimate.
Both sides have a good point. Where Tennessee fans could be like, we kicked the shit out of you.
We beat the absolute dog shit out of LSU in Baton Rouge. But then LSU would be able to say, well, we just fucked up Georgia.
That made you look like a high school team. Right.
So it's a big like snake eating its tail and it also would all happen at the end of the season where if you get to the end of the season and let's say lsu is ranked fifth or sixth and tennessee's not playing in the sec championship game and lsu is they jump because that would be they would beat the number one team in the country again i don't think it's right but i'm just saying there's a path for lsu to get to the college football playoff I also I I do think the Pac-12 unless like one of them really slips up I think they they probably will get a team in this year because I was thinking about it more Oregon has a tough time because they played Georgia got smoked and Tennessee also played Georgia got smoked by a little bit less even though like if you watch both games, Georgia leaps better than both teams. But if UCLA or USC runs the table, it would be very interesting.
I think the committee would probably take one of them because USC would have their worst loss as a one-point loss to Utah at Utah, and then they racked up at the end of the season a win against UCLA, top 10 team, a win against Notre Dame, top 25 team, and then a win against Oregon in the Pac-12 championship game, top 10 team. If you do the same for UCLA, they would beat USC, and then they would also revenge their sole loss, which the committee always loves, revenging your loss against Oregon in the Pac-12 championship game.
I think the Pac-12 might be back unless they fuck it up, which they obviously will. I think that Washington is going to beat Oregon this weekend, though.
Washington has not been good. I think they're going to beat Oregon this weekend.
They have not been good recently. What about? That team has had that moment.
That was one of those situations where Washington beat Michigan State, and everyone thought Michigan State was better than they were.

And then you got farther down the line, and you're like, oh, Michigan State is garbage.

Oh, maybe Washington is as well.

Because they went and got punked by UCLA.

I think they won but closely against Oregon State last weekend.

What were you going to say, Jake?

What about Ohio State and Michigan getting in if they play close?

That would be crazy. The problem with that isigan played an absolute dog shit non-conference and the only way that i think it could have worked is if michigan played a better non-conference and they lost close to ohio state in columbus and you could make the argument well they're a one lost team and their only loss is against ohio state in a road environment or if michigan wins if Michigan wins, but then it's the reverse where Ohio State, you just lost at home.
Yeah. So I obviously want the Big Ten to have two teams in.
Imagine if they played a national championship game. Yeah.
I mean, it would be incredible. But it's actually, weirdly enough, I love the tradition of college football, but Michigan and Ohio State should think about playing this game in early October.
Because it actually hurts them to play it this late. Duke, UNC, and basketball in the Final Four in Ohio State-Michigan in the championship game the same year.
That'd be wild. UNC's got it.
They're like on the very outside, but agent of chaos because they only have one loss. UNC would be, I'm confident in saying, the worst team to ever make the college football playoff if they get it.
Michigan State didn't get a first down against the Rams. That was bad.
And Washington didn't either. Also, Washington had a really bad one against Alabama that one year.
Yeah, Washington really. I think this UNC team would be worse.
They've got a good quarterback, but their defense, I think, is just slapstick comedy. It's slapstick comedy.
No, I agree. Watching them try to play defense.
Also, that would be very funny be very funny Somehow if they won a college football playoff game And then you've got Gus Malzahn In the championship game And Gus Malzahn gets another big job Next year Who puts another ring on his finger So I think It's going to depend on the weather The Ohio State Michigan game Because if game. Because if it's bad weather, Michigan, I think, can steamroll them.
Yeah. By playing their brand of football, which is just basically we're going to punch you in the mouth.
I think it's going to be a close game no matter what. If it's good weather, I feel like Ohio State can just throw the ball.
I don't know. Michigan has a fucking...
They just are a tough, tough team. Either way, we are at the point in college football season where we stress about all this stuff.
We get anxious about all this stuff. All fan bases are upset and making their case, and it will all work itself out.
It should. Someone will catch a loss we didn't see coming.
Unless LSU wins two games. Yeah.
No, but then what I'm saying is, say LSU wins out, right? Yep. The Pac-12 is notorious for cannibalizing themselves and fucking themselves over, where it's like, USC will beat UCLA and then lose to Notre Dame and then beat Oregon, and the Pac-12 will eliminate itself.
Like, these things always kind of find a way to shake themselves out. The one thing that you have to root for if you're a Tennessee fan or a Michigan-Ohio State fan to have a shot at this thing is you need TCU to lose because TCU going undefeated they're in no matter what yeah

and it's just uh one thing they might they might just win weird games but they just keep winning

and that's uh Clemson is fucked yeah comes out it's bad bad Clemson it's a bad Clemson Clemson

is out Alabama's out which is crazy this is the earliest they've been out I think I think I saw

the stat this is the first time Alabama will be playing a regular season game without a chance to go to the national title since like since saban got there or since 2010 i'm really looking forward to to nick saban um doing like the simulcast in the college football playoff this year if they haven't been one of those coaches that sits in the room while they're all eating pizza and just so bitter, like why am I not here right now? It's also so funny because the expectations of where Alabama is as a program, when you actually look at their season objectively, take a step back, yeah, they could have lost to Texas. They could have lost to Texas A&M.
Their two losses are on the road by a buzzer beater field goal and a two-point conversion like you can't lose closer than they've lost like they are they are two plays away from being undefeated same old alabama so it is funny to look at being like alabama's trash like what happened alabama and then you're like well they played in two very very tough environments and almost won both games by like the the you know a very very small yeah but counterpoint they're supposed to be bam yeah they are but it's just very funny to think about it's like you lost a two-point conversion and a tennessee field goal uh any other any other school would be like that was an awesome season i was i was watching a youtube video the other day about that uh the crazy 2007 college football season that we like to talk about a lot. You know that they offered Rich Rodriguez to be the head coach of Alabama after that season because he had installed the read option at West Virginia, and he turned them down.
He was like, no, I feel like I've got more work to do here at West Virginia. Yeah.
And then he eventually obviously went to Michigan. But he turned down the Alabama.
That's how down bad Alabama. They were used to be.
They were down back then. And then there's that one story about what's his name? Coach price.
I think the guy's name was where they hired him in the off season. And then he spent the entire off season just like going to strip clubs and using the Alabama corporate credit card.
Yep. And they had to fire him immediately.
Yes. Yes.
Alabama. They've been, they've been a great team since Saban's been there, but, man, they were down real bad for like, I don't know what, like seven, eight years before he got there? Nick Saban, it's – I think I said the stat.
We do so many shows I can't remember. I think I said the stat on Pickup, but Nick Saban in his time in the SEC with Alabama.
So since 2007, I want to say, because Brian Harsin just got fired. All the other SEC teams combined, how many coaches have they had since Nick Saban got there? Oh, shit.
42. You were in the room when I said this trivia.
Is that right? He just said pick. No.
But it's just funny because you were in the room. I'm going to guess 42 42 53 oh wow it's crazy all the other teams went through 53 head coaches while nick saban has just rained over everyone that's kind of wild and now we get what we've always wanted we want new colors could you imagine a college football playoff with uh georgia michigan tcu and ucla that's some cool colors i can't imagine that's some cool colors i mean georgia georgia by 500 yeah also bama clemson could be a new year six game yeah which actually they should do orange ball or sugar ball yeah the projections are out i'm just so excited for bowl season i fucking love college footballs yeah it's barcelona arizona bowl yeah barcelona arizona bowl mac versus mountain west um anything else college football three more weeks sad three more regular season weeks feels like it just started a second ago memes jaws on the floor when i just said that very sad your colorado buffalo is not so good memes it's just sit there um okay let's do hot seat cool throw and then

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My hot seat is people running rigged lottery ball machines. Yeah.
There's been a lot of that going around lately. A lot of interesting statistics out there, people not winning the lottery ball, the Powerball I'm talking about.
Somebody won it, actually. But that was after.
It just took them a while, but they eventually won it. The California lottery announced late on Monday night, everyone was waiting for $1.9 billion,

that they're delaying the drawing because officials need more time to complete protocols,

and they didn't live stream it.

They just put the video up after the fact on YouTube.

Yeah, Powerball rigged.

Powerball rigged.

That's very suspect.

Biggest Powerball in history.

It sucks.

I went out.

I bought five tickets.

I was going to split them up. I was going to distribute.
I was going to double. I was going to distribute my winnings.
If you won. Yeah.
I was going to match. How would you do that? I wouldn't.
Yeah, obviously I wouldn't be able to. Why doesn't anybody ever.
Well, I'll know if the Ravens and Eagles both win the Super Bowl. Why doesn't anybody ever take the annuity? The annuity, which is like, you know, you get the full amount of the jackpot But you spread it out over 20 years That way I would personally take that Because I wouldn't be able to go broke I think your family doesn't get it if you die right There was an older woman who did it And put it in her will So the family wouldn't all blow it But do you get it if you get the annuity Yeah I thought the Powerball fucked you likeball fucked you like that.
Well, I think the real reason is because if you take the lump sum, then you can theoretically invest it, and you would make way more money year over year if you just put it in like a... Inflation.
What if you just took it to the bank? Yeah. Actually, Bobby Bonilla's deal, bad.
Yeah, real bad. He should take that money up front and then invest it in the Will Ponds guy, who I heard was making a ton of money.
Bernie Madoff at the time. Burn dog.
By the way, when I see that the Snyders are dealing with Bank of America to try to sell the commanders, part of me is like, what a bunch of broke boys. Like Bank of America? Yeah.
What, are they going with their fucking debit card to get it out? I have a Bank of America. Yeah.
That's not a rich bank. You've got to use Goldman Sachs.
Or something like Swiss something.

Yeah, just say Swiss Bank of America. Yeah, Swiss.
S-U-I-S-S-E. Yeah.
That one. Like a company that advertises at Wimbledon is what I'm looking for.
Right, yeah. You want it to be Wimbledon or Tiger Woods Bank.
Yeah. That's it.
Anyways, I didn't win the lottery. Oh, yeah.
Go ahead. If you put the money after taxes into a savings account and it gets .016, the average saving account's return for a year, you'd get a million and a half a year.

That's kind of chump change, though.

Like, I've already got $2 billion.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's pretty insane.

You have $2 billion.

Yeah.

Just conservatively.

What about if you buy apes? I don't know You should convert it I was thinking here's a great idea It just popped in my head this morning Because people were talking about the election They should make voting entering into a lottery So one person gets $2 billion One person who votes Oh I think it be reversed. I think it should be they should make voting into a lottery.
You just randomly one person gets picked to be the president. That's what they used to do in ancient Greece.
It was called sortition. Yeah, it's way better.
And then that person would have to be the leader of whatever nation state that was. So it made people invest a lot of money into education.
Which is smart. Knowing any one of these people could end up ruling all of us.
Imagine Billy being our president. I was off by zero.
It's actually 150,000. Just so you know, we knew that there was something wrong with this.
Just one zero. Yeah.
Okay. Okay, Hank.
My cool throne, Bill Belichick, Tom Brady. This is a football podcast, greatest coach, greatest player of all time.
Are you just saying just like in general? No, they've been in the media. They've basically just been gushing about each other it's kind of like the skip and steven a situation where you know they're separated but they're doing these press interviews and they're going out of their way to compliment each other so i'll just read these these two quotes because obviously both of them are breaking records accomplishing things and then they get asked about it and you know this tension that the media you know pft and his dad would like to you know fanfic and say that they hated each other and that was the reason they left.
These quotes would lead you to believe otherwise. So I'll go with Tom first.
Asked about Bill when he broke the win record. He said, we've had 20 years together of elite football experience.
I wouldn't have traded for anything in the world. I know he's a great competitor.
What an amazing coach he is and how he prepares his team to win. And he's just done it year in, year out.
The fact that he's 22 wins away from an amazing milestone, I have no doubt he's going to get it. And I just watch that team every week and I'm impressed by how they prepare.
The accountability that that organization has, it starts at the top. And then Bill, when talking about Brady having 100,000 yards, he said, tremendous accomplishment, his longevity, his accuracy, consistency.
Just doing so many things right in

the passing game for so long. Phenomenal

accomplishment. I'm really happy for him.

Nobody deserves it more than he does.

He's worked extremely hard and is just very good at what

he does. Amazing stat.
I don't

even know how far 100,000 yards is.

It must be a long way. I don't know

how many miles. I have no idea.

56 miles. But that's a great accomplishment.

Wow. So just, you know, just

touching stuff from the two greatest

of all time. I think it's nice

Thank you. How many miles? I have no idea.
56 miles. Wow.
But that's a great accomplishment. Wow.
So just touching stuff from the two greatest of all time. I think it's nice, Hank.
I also think it's sweet how you're reading into this. Like you're trying to parent trap them.
You're basically Lindsay Lohan in this situation, and you're hoping to get Tom. I think Hank's going to try to schedule an interview for Tom Brady and Bill Belichick.
At the same time. And not tell the other one that they're that they're coming to the studio and hope that they fall in love and start making out.
Wow. Now that's some fanfic that I can get behind.
All right, PFT, your hot seat cool, Toronto. My hot seat is Black Mirror.
Okay. It's on the hot seat because it's really becoming true life.
There's an Oculus developer, a virtual reality developer that created a game that kills you in real life if you die in the game. Which, I kind of want to play this game.
I don't want to play it. I want to watch someone play it.
I want to play this game. I want to watch someone risk their own life and then watch a death.
What if you murder? What if you murderer in the no no it's so it's set up to the headset will make your brain molecules explode yeah it's got like an explosive charge yeah that if you die in the game then what what game is there like a video game or any any activity that you would have to do and have to do perfectly or else you would die if you failed? Ooh. Do they count to 10? Scroll Twitter while taking a shit.
I could do that perfectly. That's pretty good.
I could do that perfectly. Oh, I could definitely know when an over is fucked in like a college basketball or college football game.
Or if I die, I could definitely know that. I think I could change the channel from Fox to CBS right before they were about to come back from commercial break on an NFL Sunday.
That would be tough. Hank, do you think you could pick a lottery ball? A non-rigged one? If we gave you 99 numbers, I still think you'd lose.
I actually have a theory that Hank's purposely not picking it. Well, that's just as hard.
No, no, it's not. Because if you look at the balls, it rotates.
So if you pick one that's on the outside, it's less likely to get picked. He's been picking 17, though, every time.
So how does your theory fall apart right there? You're giving Hank way too much. But 17 moves around.
If you wanted to, I think you could avoid picking the right ball. Jake, okay, so try it.
Okay. All right, great.
Can I get some money on that action? No. See how long you can go.
See if you can go two years. We know you can't eat the chicken, so go two years.
Go two years without getting it right. No, because I like winning.
Okay, so you can't do it.

But you could.

Well, you can't. If you see which balls go up into the thing with the suckers.

But you can't.

You just said you can't.

I think it's so random once they start moving around that you can't be like,

that's a cool deal.

Billy, if you don't get it for the next two years, I'll give you $5,000.

Yeah, but I want to get it.

So you can't.

So this is a dumb conversation. I bet I could do it for three weeks.
Oh, yeah. Oh, wow.
Great job, Billy. Oh, man.
I've done that hundreds of times. We've all done it.
I just offered you five grand. You said you wanted it on the action.
Five grand if you don't get it for two years. Anyways, my cool throne is accountability because Sepp Blatter has finally put his hand up and said,

hey, guys, my bad.

Sorry about the whole Qatar World Cup.

He admitted that awarding Qatar the World Cup was a mistake because they didn't have the infrastructure

and it's very hot in Qatar.

Things that he could not have known when he chose to give them the World Cup.

What was that, like 10 years ago or whatever? So that's on him. That's his fault.
Yeah. At least we won't have to deal with it.
Yeah. Yeah.
Well, yeah. At least you guys won't have to deal with it.
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Yeah. Facts, Jake.
From the clouds. My cool throne is to an on.
What? What's his trophy? Oh, it's the Heartland Trophy. It's Iowa versus Wisconsin playing for a bull with a huge nut sack.
Where'd it come from? these guys i met at michigan michigan state they make replica trophies pretty fucking cool rivalry trophies shout out no free shout outs but i don't think barstool's ever gonna get in the trophy business no so uh yeah they gave me they actually gave i met him week two at iowa they gave me the cyhawk and it's just been sitting in my car since so and then every time my son gets son gets in the car, he's just like, what is this? I'm like, it's when Iowa and Iowa state play first to 12 every year. And it's fucking awesome.
My cool throne is to an on Jake. I told you before we got in here, I made another bet to win the MVP 16 to one.
Wow. What's going to, if Josh, this is, it is also based.
Like I hope Josh Allen's not hurt, but if he is hurt, Tua feels like he's got a lot of – people feel bad about the concussions. He's going to have a lot of numbers.
What if they go undefeated when Tua starts and finishes? There's a lot of juice behind Tua right now. Tua's got a lot of juice.
PFT, come in with me. Come on.
The problem is Jalen Hurts is probably going to be the guy. I agree.
I think if it's not Josh Allen, it's probably Hurts. Wouldn't it be fun, though? It'd be fun, yeah.
I mean, come on. You can join me.
16 to 1. Unfortunately, I've already got a future that I put in a long time ago on Derrick Henry.
Just banking on Tractor Cito season is kind of for something. Shout out that guy.
I don't know if you guys saw the tweet from last week. Some random dude who was banned on Twitter obviously for trying to attack people who don't believe in Tua.
Had a handwritten list of all the people that were against Tuanon. It was like 100 people.
I was on the list and I was crossed out. Yeah.
Only crossed out name. So I've seen the light but that type of fandom is to be commended.
I like that. It's a complete psychopath move.
But I honestly, I respect the fact that he paid close enough. That guy must do nothing but listen to podcasts.
Yeah. And just take down notes every time.
He's a guy from Wales. Yeah, he's a guy from Wales.
So yeah, he probably does listen to nothing but podcasts. All right, Billy.
My hot seat is Matt Patricia and specifically the Patriots offense. So Belichick commented that he thought that C.J.
Mosley and Shaq Leonard the past two weeks knew the offensive plays before they even got out of the huddle. He doesn't know how it happened, but many are saying that Matt Patricia may be just calling a very predictable offense.
He's got a lot of tells. He's like an Astros pitcher.
They really should go get Frank Ray. Like, why not? Guy knows how to call offense.
I mean, if you look at the Patriots' history, they tend to do what Alabama does for coaches that get fired. They collect old coaches in Belichick.
Belichick's like, he goes to the antique store. He's like, I could use one of these.
I could buff out the scratches in this one. Yeah, give me a Brett Bieleman and a Joe Judge.
Yeah, just join the staff. They're big time.
They're on the staff. The more minds, the better.
And then they go somewhere else. Yeah, throwing them.
Greg Sciano, yeah, bring them in. Yeah, it's like throwing in a couple munchkins in the donut box.
Like, yeah, just throw a Matt Patricia in there. I'll take one of those.
We'll see what he can do. And my cool throne is Jet's coin guy.
So we did the intrinsic investigation of whether he posted multiple, and we went into Twitter backlogs type stuff and found out that he only posted it once. Great.
Vindication. Vindication.
So I had to clear that up. I thought it was clean because there would be so many different combinations that he would have had to post.
It would have been quite an endeavor. I almost would have respected it more if it had been fake.
The thing is, accounts in the past have done that with different teams. Yeah, of course.
Predictions and posted literally thousands of combinations. You know, people lock their accounts and then they go un-private right as the Super Bowl happens.
They're like, look, I had it. I deleted all their tweets.
We're clearing his name. We did the investigation.
So, unfortunately, the Jets are going to the AFC Championship game but losing the Patriots next week. I should do that with my account.
I should stay private but now tweet out all the possible accommodations of Super Bowl champions. And then after the Super Bowl, reveal myself to everybody.
Have everyone retweet it. Okay, Jake.
My hot seat is Novak Djokovic. His team was spotted creating what we were calling a magic potion.
It was water. And they gave it to him on the court.
So you witch hunt now? Are you a witch hunter? I'm just saying. Okay.
He was asked about it during Wimbledon, and it happened again this week, and he called it a magic potion. I saw it, and Djokovic just – somebody handed him a water bottle, and he drank it.
I don't think that Djokovic would put anything in his body that somebody else had created and mixed together without his knowledge. This is a witch hunt.
This is a witch hunt, and let me ask you a question, Jake. Do we drink – when we have bottles of water that are not paying for, pardon my take, like branding, what do we do with it? We rip the tag off.
Right, exactly. We get it out of there.
That's body armor. Yeah, it's body armor.
That's okay. When was the last time they wrote me a check? Yeah.
I'm just saying, is Djokovic maybe not giving free ads? We should commend that as podcasters. No free ads.
He was also, there was a video of him inhaling a bottle a bottle what what do you mean inhaling like so he has asthma and you're shaming that now too never i would never no no no oh you have asthma no i don't think so you probably do yeah what do you mean he was inhaling he had an inhaler or he just drank it quickly or he did a line of water sniffing the bottle it was probably smelling salts jake yeah yeah it definitely was smelling salts this is a up so we've proven that jake is just witch hunting this is sad sad state of affairs sad state of affairs to go after the goat like this all right jake your cool throne my cool throne's adam schefter yeah his uhousins impersonation, and it went viral. He looked good.

He looked really good.

I look like you, Jake.

I got so many tags.

No, he looked good.

I was proud of Schefter.

He took his shirt off, and that's not easy to do in front of national television, and

he looked good.

Nipples were out and everything.

Booger was mean to you again.

Yeah, Booger's just mean to me.

Would Booger do?

He's just like, if you stopped eating donuts, you could maybe look like this.

So the thing about Schefter is he's really come out of his shell in the last few years,

We'll be right back. you again yeah booger's just would booger just he just is like you if you stopped eating donuts you could maybe look like this so the thing about schefter is he's uh he's really come out of his shell in the last few years which i'm proud of him for doing yes he showed because before i think he was like a robot yeah and now it's like okay he's got he's got a little bit of a personality i just think that i don't know i might become a chain guy because like kirk cousins looks awesome in a chain we thought he was a dork adam schefter also a dork looks great in a chain i We thought he was a dork.
Adam Schefter, also a dork, looks great in a chain.

I think that chains can really turn anybody into a sex symbol.

Yeah.

I'm a Spanx guy now.

That's nice.

Yeah.

That's good.

I'm wearing Spanx.

Someone tipped me off at LSU. I don't want to reveal it because he probably doesn't want to say

that he's a Spanx guy.

But, yeah, I'm a Spanx guy now. Keeps everything tight.
Brandon Walker. You like that? No, it wasn't Brandon Walker.
Spanx. It's like an undershirt, but it's a little tighter.
Shaq? No. I bet you Shaq's a Spanx guy.
Yeah, he probably is. He's definitely a Spanx guy.
Yeah, you're probably intimidated now. He's ripped.
Shaq? Why? Have you seen him recently? If you... He makes so much money.
His name is literally Diesel. Yeah.
Maybe he is. He's jacked right now.
Okay. I think he's just big, but I mean, that man, he eats.
He does eat. He loves to eat.
Okay. Let's do Ryan Whitney.
Ryan Whitney. Also a little fun Easter.
We did a bonus ball, lottery ball machine. So you get one there.
See if Hank wins. And there's a bonus Easter egg because we recorded it last week, so you get to hear Max cheering for a Phillies home run in game three.
So that's fun. PFT? Yeah, before we get to Ryan Whitney, I want to talk to you about Chevy.
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One of the very first guests

HOF-er?

In the history of part of my take

Well, no, we need to put that to a vote

Big Cat got a little over his knees on that

No, no, no, no, no

If we were going Hall of Fame

I think Hank once looked it up

And I think Whitney is top five appearances

Top five?

Is he not?

Oh, my

I thought you were saying top three

No, no, no

I'm saying in terms of most appearances

In the seven year history of the show I would say this is my 17th? You just made that up. I was going to say seven.
Because I said seven because you're pitching brain. I'd say including times on with Biz and maybe the time you guys came on our show.
I've come on your show 10 and you've come on ours once. Thanks a lot.
I would say. We never get invited.
I didn't think I'd be any lower than third. I was invited one time and I think I went on that one time.
I'm batting 1,000. Who shows up to all these streams whenever Grinnell? I know Grinnell.
I know what you're doing, too. You're having Grinnell text me instead of you text me, and then so it's like I feel bad.
Well, you know why? I don't want to be the guy that only texts someone when they need something. Right.
Great cat. Yeah, I rectified that.
I rectified that. I did rectify that.
Well, you called yourself out, so I understand.

Yeah, no, I texted Dan Heron. I've been texting him too much.
Like, I've been sending him a meme a day. So if he were to look at the message from you, it's just like, hey, man, what's up? What do you think about coming on? Dude, anytime I see anything Lakers related, I just send it to him.
He's probably so annoyed that he ever said that. Yeah, you're like, I'll text this guy into oblivion for now just to make sure.
I'll get it. I think if we just go based purely on the numbers,

it is probably like you, Mr. Portnoy, Lenny Dykstra.

Yeah, maybe Marlins Man.

What a duo to be compared with.

I mean, those four guys.

Mr. Portnoy.

Is Lenny Dykstra in prison?

No.

No.

He hasn't been in jail in like two years.

Over two years.

Marlins Man and me.

That's a hell of a crew right there. You hide your girl when that crew comes down.
You're probably the best hockey player. So first time, I remember coming on the first time because I started listening to your show.
I remember where I was first episode I ever listened to when it was a cluster. Was it before you were in Barstool? Yeah.
Yeah, for sure. You were still playing hockey.
I want to say I... In Sweden? Chicklets had...
Wow. no, I wasn't playing hockey when your guys' show started.
Because we texted when you were in Sweden, I remember, your last year of your career. We'll have to go back to the dates.
You hadn't started yet. No, I was just...
What's the first episode when the audio was a joke and I think Long came on? Yeah. When was that? Chris Long.
That was the second. March.
Of what year? First ever episode. 2016.
2016. I was retired.
And Chickalots actually began, I think we had, RA and I had already done an episode, maybe. We might have beat you guys before we began.
Okay, maybe we were 17. Such a rewriting.
Hold on, I started telling this story. You're turning into Will Compton right now.
That's what you're doing. I started telling this story to compliment you guys.
Don't interrupt me by calling me Will Compton for Christ's sake. I don't wear those new bounces.
That's the meanest thing you can say. I don't wear that shitty dad bought outfit of yours.
I love Will. So I remember listening to the first episode.
Then I remember you asked me to go on before our oldest was born. And I remember just sitting in my room and I was bashing basketball.
I was giving basketball the boots. And it feels like 20 years ago.
What was it, Jake? Jake has the exact date. What does it say? June 8, 2016.
So I'm going to say if Chicklets, if we'd never recorded an episode, which I think we already had, we started like January of 17. You might have done, yeah.
I specifically remember because we talked to you and you were asking about Hank

and you taught us about gas and beers and chucking nuts down at the spit.

Wow, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Gas and beers and chucking nuts.

I've never done the second one, but I'll gas a beer.

So that was June 2016.

Then I remembered right after that, maybe like three weeks after that,

I moved up to New York.

And this is really before like anybody, like my face wasn't out there at all.

I was trying to stay behind the scenes, away from cameras, all that stuff.

I get up to New York.

I after that i moved up to new york and um this is really before like anybody like my face wasn't out there at all i was trying to stay behind the scenes away from cameras all that stuff i get up to new york i go out to eat and the very first restaurant that i go to here in new york when i move here in june the uh waiter comes up to me and he's wearing a gas and beers and chuck and knuckster no shit i was like what the fuck we probably sold like 10 of those yeah you're like i i made it yeah and then i was or make it? Yeah. I guess it's your show.
No, you made it. I made it through you guys.
You made it. We just, we made it popular.
Yeah, we popularized it. But now you guys have a cheesesteak, and now we have the vodka.
It's kind of crazy where things have gone, boys. That was going to be my first question for you.
It was like, can you educate us on how to sell out properly? Because you've done it. What you do is you get a fan base and you say all these things to gain that fan base.
And then if somebody offers you money to say different things that go against what you said to get the fan base, you're willing to say it. So you guys jump the shark along.
Oh, yeah. You guys are bigger sellouts than me.
The only real... Actually, talk about sellouts.
I don't know about that. Zach Wilson already gone.
Oh, yes. Yes.
I listened to the shows, boys. This is the biggest sellout right here.
Wait, wait. How did I sell out? Wait, you threw him under the...
You're the guy, Ellinger, who started one game. You said he'd be...
And I gave him a take back. I know you gave him a take back.
I gave him a fair... Because sometimes we say things and we don't realize it.
I gave him a fair take back, and he said no. Try to say that you didn't say if you could choose, you chose Ellinger.
You did. I gave you the take back option.
You didn't do it. Look at what I said.
I said I just would prefer less intercept. No, no, Billy.
No, no, no, no, no. Billy, Billy, Billy.
This is very simple. Billy, this is like.
I intentionally asked this question to put you inside that little eye. You made him answer.
I made you answer, and you said Sam Ellinger. And then Big Cat offered you an emergency parachute.
The whole room went. The whole room stopped.
So you're a sellout. No one's giving me any money, so I'm not a sellout.
So to be fair to Billy, I think Billy doesn't love Sam Ellinger as much as he loves his own take that he thinks that Sam Ellinger Oh, and he also knows Zach Wilson sticks. Yeah, that's what he's realizing.
No, but those balls he hasn't learned to throw away correctly. Right, right.
What about you? I know we grill Hank all the time, but is Mack your guy? No. Okay.
I would say it's really hard to talk about that team after the 20 years. And it's just like that's a fact.
But what I see in championship quarterbacks, it's just he doesn't even come close to that. So to me, it's like to win a Super Bowl, he's not even close to that.
But there's only like four guys who are. Yeah, that's true.
I mean, your guy sucks. No, he doesn't.
No, no, no, no. Your guy sucks.
No, he doesn't. Your guy sucks.
No, he doesn't. You're wrong.
You're wrong. Your guy lit up the Patriots.
The Patriots make bad QBs look great. It's a known thing.
And he also lit up the Cowboys. Is that a known thing? They lost by 20.
I'm pretty sure Belichick's like 34-3 against rookie quarterbacks or something like that. I didn't say rookies.
I said bad quarterbacks lately. Let's say the last two years since Brady left.
The Patriots make bad QBs look pretty good. They might just be a bad team.
I don't think they're a great team. What does that make Zach Wilson? He's worse than that.
Yeah, really bad. Really shit.
No, but you missed Zach. Oh, yeah, the most yardages.
Yeah, the most yards in the loss.

Yes. Six stat.

Ever.

Six stat.

As a Jets quarterback, even in wins.

It's like a biz stat.

Like, oh, I got laid last night, but I was like the ninth guy to bang that girl.

It was like six stat, dude.

All right.

So, Witt, we got to talk some hockey.

Let's pretend that the hockey season starts this week. Hockey's buzzing, boys.
You have a lot more listeners than you think. I've had a lot of tweets like, where's a hockey preview? You're finally showing some respect.
Yeah, we like to do our previews like a week or two late, maybe a month late. I think we did our MLB preview in June.
We haven't done our NBA preview. That's when baseball starts.
So we're not doing, we're doing our hockey preview before our NBA preview. It's just football is king.
So, and we like hockey, but football is king. No, football is king.
And also it helps me as the guy who's going to do the preview in terms of I can already say some things that have happened. Right.
I don't have to be completely wrong. Right.
Right. We're giving you a bonus.
Go to Spittin' Chicklets to hear that. Yeah, Spittin' Chicklets has it all, but let's pretend we know nothing about the NHL.
Obviously, we know everything, but let's just pretend. Who's good? Stanley Cup champs.
All right, so are we going as the season hasn't began? No, let's just talk. Now the abs are, like, not doing great.
So tell me about the season as it stands. If you want to roast Jake's power rankings that he did of every sport, that might be good too.
So Jake ranked all, was it 120 how many teams? 124 teams in every major sport and he ranked them all on the same list. So, in your second half of the bottom 62, how many of them are NHL teams? If you say 20, I think a decent amount.

Yeah.

Let's go back to this

because that's something,

that's like 20 minutes of discussion

that he's going to get started with.

But based on his thing,

he had,

you have the Avalanche

as the number one team still, Jake?

No, I had the Lightning in front of them.

Yeah, the Lightning.

So the Lightning,

are they still,

they're still number one?

Also, pretend that we taped this. The Avs are number one.
This is the most fucked up preview. No, no, no, no.
No, wait, I'm going to help you. Today is September 15th.
We just haven't run it until November. See? Now we're geniuses.
Now we're fucking geniuses. Hey, I'm in.
I'm in. Colorado are the dogs.
They might start slow.

I could see the Avs being like 5-5 through 10 games, guys.

I really could.

No, let's just go from right now.

I will say the Avs have had a little bit of a tough start.

Actually, right now, the lowest amount of goals scored 5-on-5 in the NHL are the Avs.

That's crazy. But Landis Skog's out.

He had surgery.

They're battling injuries. They lost Kadri.
Big loss. Everyone knows Nazem Kadri signed with Calgary.
It's still the Avs league. If you look, it's like having McCarr, having McKinnon, their entire forward unit, the D, they are going to be right there looking to repeat.
There's no doubt. It doesn't matter.
If you talk to me after 50 games and they're still 500, I might be worried, but beginning of the season, no worries. After that, it's wide open.

Now, I'm an Oilers guy. I don't know if you saw me shave Bissonette's head in Edmonton after we

won the Battle of Alberta. They are a special team.
They brought in Campbell from Toronto as

their goalie, but right now, the Stuart Skinner kid, he's kind of stealing the job. So Edmonton

with McDavid and Leon, they could win the Stanley Cup people think I'm crazy but they could can Edmonton play defense though because I remember watching them in in the Stanley Cup I took every Canadian team last year to win the Stanley Cup and they just couldn't play defense they not I mean yeah that wasn't exactly their strong suit. It isn't.
But they lost to the abs. They got swept.
The abs were crushing everyone. It was they have to get by Colorado.
They got to get by Calgary again. It's going to be hard.
But I'm just saying Edmonton can win the Stanley Cup as crazy as that sounds. Because is McDavid, is he the best player in the NHL easily? He's the best pro athlete right now.
Oh, yes. I like that take.
No, you're such a guy that's going to chirp this argument. I'm not.
I'm saying I love the take. Okay.
Connor McDavid dominates hockey more than any other athlete in the world dominates their sport. Shohei Otani? Shohei Otani is a game changer, but McDavid, he might be the biggest challenger.
People will try to mention other sports in terms of football, basketball, but O'Khani does it both sides. That's legit.
We did not give Shohei Ohtani. There's a lot of times where people will be like, this guy doesn't get enough publicity for what he's doing.
He absolutely didn't get enough because of the agents. No, no, no.
He was like the third best pitcher and one of the best hitters. And it's like stupid.
All right. So Connor McDavid, best player in all sports right now.
Connor McDavid, the most dominant at his sport. If he's the most dominant at his sport, then you would figure that they would have won the Stanley Cup.
Good point, PFC. So it's not an individual scumbag league like the NBA.
You need to have a great team around you. It's not one or two guys.
Well, then you can't be the most dominant out of your sport. No.
Yes, you can be. Okay, for the like.
Yes, you can be. What about Yannick? No, because even in the playoffs he was.
He doesn't have. He can't throw away and catch someone.
Last year and maybe this year. It's harder to be dominant as an individual in the NHL.
That's what I'm saying. Well, no.
Being dominant and being that good cannot lead you to a cup. The way one or two amazing NBAers can win you an NBA title, it'll never happen in hockey like that.
If he was so dominant, why does he come off the ice? That's a good question. That's something that where if you skate long enough, if you've ever done it, you run out of wind.
You can't really continue to do it. NBA players don't come off the court.
That's because they walk around the court, and then their exciting, crazy plays are dunks, which is like me putting the trash away in the kitchen. There's no course of any of you guys trying to mention that that's similar.
It's just you trolling me. I won't stand for it.
No, Giannis plays 48 minutes. What are the longest shifts in the NHL? What's the longest shift you ever played? So if you get caught in your own zone you could be out there two two and a half oh god oh man that sounds awful yeah people don't understand because you don't wait like 120 it's almost like it's almost like people don't get boxing in terms of a three minute round is so long people are all three minutes hockey's kind of similar okay so punches to the face that's crazy because like in, they play for 90 minutes and they don't get a break.
Yeah, that's true. Well, they get one at halftime, but it's 45 minutes at a time.
Some of the most amazing athletes in terms of endurance and wind in the world. And toughness.
Basketball players are a joke. And you guys both know that.
They need their – hockey players don't do their – what are the days called? Load management. Load management.
So don't even start with with load management's important you you know you guys just you bring me in for an NHL preview and you troll the NHL no no no no so so we have Connor McDavid the most dominant player in the history of any sport at his not in the history currently but he still hasn't won a Stanley Cup nope okay so is he a is he a choker no oh then you don't think he can have it both ways.

You guys, what do you mean you can't have it both ways?

He's Chris Paul.

You know one thing about hockey?

He cannot be a choker while being the best player and not have a Stanley Cup yet.

That's just how it is.

Now, I'll tell you this.

If his career ends and he never got one, he's a choker.

Yeah.

Yeah, I don't know what I would say to that.

That is a valid argument.

But being 25 years old, you guys trying to mention that him not having a cup yet means he's not the most dominant shows you guys know absolutely zero about hockey but you said you listen to this show yeah i do right so we boil down every conversation to rings yeah yeah very true you guys are ring guys you guys are greatness guys but i'm telling you right now this guy is the top dog it's mostly just's do you have at least a ring? Yeah. And then if you get one ring, then okay, you can be the greatest.
So no greatest until you have a ring. You have to have the ring.
All right. Thank God Ovi got it.
Yeah, what's that? Pat Maroon, probably the best hockey player in the NHL right now. Of all time.
Well, I mean, he's got what, three rings? Three in a row he did. Yeah.
And then he went to the fourth final. Yeah.
So that's the best hockey player so we're giving big rig we're giving big rig yep the um part trophy this year for mvp and the pardon my take toilet part my take best player in the world best player ever in the world he'll come on he'll come on i mean he has the most rings that seems like you guys can present him a trophy all right so uh if conor mcdavids won give us two and three, because it does feel like hockey has an insane amount of young, awesome talent right now. Crazy.
Hockey's the best it's ever been. Cale McCarr's number two.
He's crazy. Austin Matthews is number three.
Cale McCarr is the Conor McDavid of defense. He almost might be more valuable.
According to Wayne Gretzky, ever heard of him? Yeah. He says.
Business friend? He says Kael McCarr is the best player in the world. Well, he would be closer to the Shohei Otani where it's like he plays defense, but he also scores goals.
Yeah, he scores a bunch of goals. And Nathan McKinnon, who's, say, fourth on that list, fifth maybe, he came on the show and told us that he thinks he'll break every record from any defenseman ever.
He'll get 100 points easily one season. Kill McCarr.
Yeah, and said that this will be the greatest defenseman of all time. So I think he's my greatest right now.
Oh, because he's got the ring. Yeah, he got the ring.
I think he's mine, too. And you also just talked us into it.
You did a very poor job defending your take. You're like, well, that's my guy.
But then Wayne Gretzky actually thinks it's other guys better than Conrad. The best ever thinks that this guy is the best ever.
I'm not going to deny the fact that we could have a hell of an argument for a long time over maybe who is better right now. I don't think we could because I think we just won.
McCarr or McDavid. And Big Rick.
Whoever you pick. And Big Rick.
Big Rick's three. Three in a row.
Big Rick's pretty hard to do. He almost got four in a row that second.
And then you know what could happen? Somebody could come in over the top and be like, I actually think it's Igor. Oh, yeah, Avery.
He's a great goalie, and he shoots. That's actually a rule change.
What do you mean he shoots? I want to talk to you about that. What do you mean he shoots? Why is it an icing if a goalie takes a shot at the end of the game, if the other net's pulled? Because you're shooting it from beyond the red line to the other team's goal line.
They should change that rule. Why would they change it for the goalies? All the rules have been changed for the goalies.
The goalies, you cannot even go near a goalie now. I like this.
You cannot. All these goals now, they get reviewed, they get taken back.
You're shocked. The guy's elbow pad just caught the tip of the glove three minutes before the defenseman was shooting.
No goal. So the goalies have enough rules changed for them to begin with.
We're not going to now add that they can shoot at empty netters and not have to pay the consequence of an icing. So are goalies like quarterbacks of the NFL where it's like the rules have become so far that it's like, come on, guys.
You know, like when you see these late hits. It's not that obvious.
Okay. It's not that bad where now it like, pathetic.
Yeah. It's not even football in some senses of tackling the QB.

The goalie, though, I'll compare it to the quarterback in that,

the most important position.

Yeah.

No doubt.

And so what are other rules?

Because this is good.

We need rules.

Like, in the NFL, you know, you can just walk into any bar and be like,

they made it impossible to play defense.

You know, like, these guys, they have no chance.

What's the rule that has changed in the NHL that's made it very hard for a certain position group?

I would say it's hardest on defensemen now.

You used to be able to kind of hold up a guy.

So if a guy's forechecking, you just try to run over your other defenseman partner.

You could kind of pick them, but it's been a while since you can't do that.

It's pretty fair now to everyone, though.

The goalies are protected a little bit more, but the calls are made for defensemen the same as forwards where they've figured out a way sometimes there's way too many penalties called yeah um but in terms of that not one player is being awarded like forward or defenseman any sort of advantage maybe the goal is the only problem i think most nhl fans would have is you, always around the net goals, and you never know if it's going to be goal or no goal. Like, you just have no idea which way they're going to lean that night.
Right, yeah. I hear the announcers get that wrong, too, all the time.
All the time. I think this is going to be a good goal.
And these guys know what they're talking about. When they're wrong that often, it's like, what's going on here? Yeah, so I have an actual serious hockey question about goalies, too uh if you look at the guys that switch teams in the offseason a lot of times like okay this guy had a proven track record where he was we're bringing him in we're going to see if he can help our defense is there any sort of like a uh adjustment period for a goalie playing behind a new uh whether it's like a system of defense or like just adjusting a team, or is it pretty much the net and the crease never changes? I would lean towards that without having any experience in that department.
I would lean towards it's your job to just make the save. I think teams playing different structures might affect you a little bit at the beginning, but goalies are, yeah, exactly.
The crease is the same. It's like the Hoosiers.
You know, they're measuring the net. It's the same thing.
Just stop the puck. So we talked about the Avalanche, talked about the Oilers.
What other teams either are surprising you so far? The Blackhawks are kind of surprising. Yeah, the Blackhawks are kind of screwing themselves a little bit.
I know, because it's a rebuild. The Blackhawks are...
Is Kane going to get traded? That's a tough one. I would say yes, and they made it sound like it would happen at some point during the year, but when you've been a legend somewhere for that long, like, maybe...
I always say, oh, I'd want to chase another cup. I don't even have one.
But maybe somebody like that has his three. He's been there his whole life, doesn't really want to go anywhere.
They'd be probably smart to trade him. I feel like, though, he's young enough that he's like 33, 34 years old.
He's young enough that he probably wants to play playoff hockey. Exactly.
Oh, that's what I'm saying. He's still young enough to be so good on another team.
And I'll root for him wherever he goes. Oh, yeah.
He's one of the – he's the best American to ever play, I think.

But with the Blackhawks, it's like this is probably one of the stronger drafts

they've seen in a long, long time.

So you just want to get that in that lottery.

Right.

There's like three legit – there's a Russian, a kid at Michigan,

and then the big guy is this kid, Connor Bedard.

You want to get one of those.

So they got to trade Taze and Kane.

Yeah, yeah.

I think they will.

I think they will.

And it's been, whatever, nine, ten games.

It's like if you want to be good again you have to make the hard decisions you got it yeah you got the past is the past it's over it's right it's it that's like the business it's it sucks as a fan base because or even as somebody who played in chicago before they were good and the crowd was nuts and there was 6 000 people there right and we've had guys come on chiclets and tell stories of being able to like talk to their kids in the crowd right and and and now it's probably heading back towards that after being the i'd say the best atmosphere in atmosphere in the league for 10, 15 years. And basically every game was, you know, nationally televised.
Remember, it was like a joke. Oh, yeah, they had every NBC game.
It was like NBC's schedule, and it was just like the Blackhawks versus like everyone. But yeah, so all right, so what about in the East? Yeah.
So before the year, everyone was worried Boston was missing Marshawn and Charlie McAvoy, apparently until Thanksgiving. Well, Marshawn's already back.
McAvoy's coming back real soon, and they're the best team in the league. So it's kind of the last dance thing.
They re-signed Bergeron one year. They re-signed Krejci back from Czech Republic, who used to be there.
And I think them getting rid of their coach, who's in Vegas now, guys were sick of him. Guys weren't big fans of him.
So Krejci, I don't think, comes back if he's still the coach. And then there's a guy, DeBrusque, who asked for a trade.
Now he doesn't want to be traded because he's not the coach. So the Bruins are in probably their last chance to get another one.
With that core. They have won.
They've been to three finals. They look top of the league right now, enough to where as long as they stay healthy, which is a big if, they'll be in the hunt at the end of the year.
So you bring up coaches. I got a question I've always thought about at the NHL.
Why does John Tortorella keep getting jobs even though everyone hates him? Everyone doesn't hate him, though. But it feels like every former player hates him.
No, no. They don't.
They have stories of times they hated him. But if you talk to – the more people we talk to that played for torts like him, they dislike him.
They say at times he's an absolute motherfucker, but you see Philly, who has a roster that's like bottom 5 to 10 in the league, they're playing well because this guy just gets people to buy in, and he makes you competitive even if the team's roster isn't great, and's doing that already but it is crazy there is complaints from hockey fans everywhere of this old boys club where the same guys get hired and fired and he's one of them that's just i don't know he's probably coached six six teams now i'd say yeah so i don't i don't know but the guy i talked to in philly the guys i talked to in philly excuse me they say so far like him, but he's nuts. Yeah.
Is it one of the situations where even when he gets over the top nuts that he is uniting the team behind, like, fuck this guy? I think he's willing to be like that. He'd go in the locker room according to past stories.
Like, all right, guys, I don't want one person to try to make an offensive play tonight. We're just going to dump the puck in, go grind him out, and if anyone's in our crease, all five guys go in there and punch him in the head.
And if we lose 5-0, you can motherfuck me in my office if you want to. He's just a nut.
He's torts. Sometimes you've got to mix it up over the course of a season and do some crazy shit like that just to keep people interested.
And he looks that we can't outscore teams, so let's just try to beat guys 1-0, get good goaltending. His big thing is blocking shots.
It doesn't matter if you're the star player or the grunt seventh defenseman. If you're not blocking shots, you're not playing.
So what about another coach who I don't think is coaching right now, Mike Babcock? Is he? He's another one that people motherfuck. Yeah, people really hate him.
But he's a really good coach. He was a very good coach.
I think people talk about preparation and preparing to go against other teams in playoff series. Top notch, one of the best.
But stories came up. Talking to guys who play for play from Detroit and Toronto, just not a great guy.

Really?

And then in the time of age that we're in now where you have to be more of a player's coach. Yeah, you say certain things now.

You're getting fired.

And, you know, the way he treated guys ended up getting him kind of canceled, I'll say.

Oh, I didn't realize that.

Well, like this guy, Johan Franzen, who was an amazing player in Detroit for a long time, kind of came out and talked about some of the shit he said to him that was just way over the line. And, you know, stories come out where guys just didn't like him as a person.
But he can coach. I think he'll be back in the NHL at some point.
I don't know if he even wants to be. He was coaching college hockey in Canada.
He quit that job before the season. Who knows? But he's proven that he gets, you know, the most out of teams.
I think I'll tell you a quick story. There was during the minors, during the lockout, a bunch of the NHL guys were down in the AHL.
This is 2005, and he's coaching Cincinnati, I guess. And there was a call from the East Coast League, and they're playing a game in Anaheim where the Ducks play, which is Cincinnati's their farm team.

And they're going up.

Maybe some Ducks fans can see some prospects play a game

as the season's canceled.

And the kid from the coast is called up.

Big deal.

He'll be playing in the AHL, and he's standing there.

He's looking over the ice before the game,

and Babcock came out and just told him,

this is the last time you'll ever step foot in an NHL rink.

So it's just things like that, stories like that that come out. It's like.
Yeah, why are you such a dick? Was he right, though? Is that not a dick move? Was he right? Maybe he was. No, then it's not as much of a dick move.
No, it still is. You sound like Portnoy right now.
That's a dick move. Some guys say that to motivate you.
But if you just say it just to be an asshole, then that's a different story. But if the guy saw it.
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Who's the best coach in the NHL right now?

Right now, best coach. I got gotta give it to john cooper yeah um with what they did the past three years and the way he kind of communicates with guys he's he's at another level i would say he's right there i think montgomery in boston he had some off-ice issues um that they had him get fired in dallas where they had a really good team a few years ago and then he was the assistant for a bit in St.
Louis and he was a head coach that should have already been there for a while but now Boston has him. They look this good.
Everyone loves that guy. And the best coach may be not even coaching and that's Barry Trotz.
Yeah. Your boy.
I love Barry. Who there's crazy rumors now.
Toronto's struggling a little bit and they should hire him. So he came out and said, I want to coach an original six team.
They should hire him. They actually should.
He's going the rounds. He's doing a couple different podcasts.
I'd love to get him on Chicklets. That sucks.
He said, I want to coach an original six team. Actually, let's get him on part of my take before he goes on Chicklets.
That would be a dirty move. Yeah, that would be a scumbag move.
Would it be a scumbag move? Oh, Harper just went yard. Yes.
Yes. There we go.
We're going to run this after the World Series. No, this will be the next preview of the MLB 2023 season.
Yeah. That was so perfect.
People are going to be like, what the fuck are they talking about? Especially when Houston wins a series. Yeah, the Astros won 4-1.
What was it? Oh, so Trotzo, he came on and said, I want to coach an original six team. Well, Boston, Detroit, Montreal all have coaches they kind of just recently hired.
New York's coach isn't going anywhere. And Chicago, they have Richardson.
They just got a guy. So it's like he knows Toronto will be the one.
Yeah. So you loved him, right? I loved him.
I know you played for him. You had a big role in that couple.
I certainly did. I love Barry Trotz.
I was so mad when we didn't re-sign him. That was the stupidest move of all time.
That was dumb. Listen, with Barry, there's definitely a fuse on him.
You know, like the clock starts ticking, and eventually guys start to tune him out a little bit. Yeah, he doesn't let him do much offensively which guys just hate and i think i think he'd be a great coach based on what i know listen i i i would uh i give my highest letter of recommendation to barry trotz for what it's worth i know you think that they stink right now i think your exact words were the leafs legit stink yeah they do um they they do but Biz made a guarantee, which that means a lot, that Trotz will be the coach by March or some shit.
I don't know what he said. I think Biz just has thoughts, and then he thinks those thoughts are guaranteed.
And then he says his thoughts, but then you forget about the thing like think before you speak. Yeah, he guarantees a lot of stuff.
That's how he gets circumcised. Yeah, yeah.
He doesn't come through any bet. He backs out.
He did shave his head. Well, I shaved his head.
Yeah, all right. So give us two teams that when we're talking hockey, we're like, watch out for this team.
That no one's going to be like, oh, shit, you guys are real puck heads. Are we puck buddies? No, puck boys.
We're puck boys. You guys don't want to be puck bunnies.
I don't want to be a puck bunny. Nah, nah, you're too big.
So I'll say I've been on these guys since the end of last year, really leaning into this year, the Buffalo Sabres. Things are changing in Buffalo.
Things are changing. And Jack Eichel, who's lighting it up in Vegas, they're 8-2.
They're flying. He's a hell of a player.
But there was so much baggage and drama there. It ended.
They got a couple really good players in for him and they've taken off and they have they have the youngest team in the nhl i would say they have like six legit studs that are under the age of 24 wow so they're going to be and they've already started off that was my call yeah that was my call last year everyone said i'm an idiot when kane goes to buffalo remember who you heard it from first. Me.
Witty. Oh, no.
Puck, bunny, big cat. All right.
That's one team. Give us another.
I'm trying to give like, yeah, not the obvious. Yeah, because everyone's like, you guys don't know puck.
We're like, yeah, watch out for the lightning in the avalanche. Shit.
This is. Oh, kind of boring because I bet you not many Dallas Stars fans are listening, but seems to be they have kind of something going there.
Peter DeBoer is the coach. He's a new coach.
He's been to the Cup Final as the coach of the Devils, the Sharks, maybe another one. But he's had a lot of success.
Their roster is kind of weird where they have some overpaid veterans like Sagan and Ben. They're still really good, but they're maybe not worth what their salaries are.
But then they've got younger guys that are studs. So Dallas is a sleeper team.
I like that. Okay.
You talked about the last dance for the Bruins. I was told last year was the last dance for the Pittsburgh Penguins.
It's not. It wasn't the last dance.
So how many more dances does Sidney Crosby have? I think they're on a three-year window. I that malkin and letang signed for four years maybe they re that was the question was where were they going to go where were those two going to go they both re-signed sid talked to malkin all summer that's their they got one two maybe three years here uh to get it done they looked great to start but they've been struggling since how much um i'm looking looking right now, Letang is through 2027, 28.

So they both signed four or five years.

But I would say even at the age,

it's like two, three more years max for those guys.

Oh, here's a question that you'll be able to answer.

With the Russian gas supply coming to the United States now,

has that been affected by the war in Ukraine at all?

Are they able to ship over the special steroids?

I never had or experienced or heard of anyone having Russian gas over here.

I saw that shit up close and personal in Russia, in Sochi,

in these rinks I traveled around in the KHL, these dumps.

Dynamo, Moscow, Severstall, just these absolute shitholes.

That's where I saw the Russian gas.

It's never been over here.

Has there been any curtailing of the black card that a lot of the Russian players get? That's a biz thing. He's talked a lot about the black card that's given out, but those were jokes about Putin, who turns out to be a pretty big scumbag.
I think scumbag. I try not to talk about it.
Yeah, major pigeon. I try not to talk about it.
Putin, major pigeon. Yeah, you know, he's not exactly the guy I want to be talking about on Pardon My my take so you could fucking bring him up if you want to um okay so this is good we got we got some good stuff to go from give us your conference finals and and stanley cup final yeah right and then jake did you pull up your sheet i want to i want you to comment after that yeah okay um i'm gonna go bruins over Rangers to get to the cup final.
That would be interesting. I think the Avs, unfortunately, will probably beat the Oilers again in the Western Conference final.
And I'm picking the Avs to win again. Okay.
If the Bruins played the Avs and they were all healthy, it'd be sick hockey. But I'm going Avs again.
I picked the Lightning to go back-to-back, and they did. So Conor McDavid chokes again is the headline coming out of this.
The best player ever. You can run with that.
I'm not saying. I'm going Sabres over Stars.
Okay, my two sleepers. No shit.
You know hockey. I would agree with Big Cat, but something about Buffalo being good at two sports at once just doesn't seem realistic to me.
Everything, everything, everything, every storyline has to change at some point. Unless you're a Commanders fan.
That's very true. That's true.
Always a Caps fan. That changed.
Oh, Ovi. So is Ovi going to get the record? Just yes or no? Yes.
Hell yeah. Definitely is.
What about... Definitely? No, I said definitely.
What is it about the shot? Because it seems like he's been scoring the same goal for 15 years. joke 15 years if you watch hockey but never played hockey it would be even more confusing like why don't you guys know he's getting a one-timer at the top of the circle right but you have to cover other guys and then you're like hopefully the goalie can make the save and sometimes or somehow every most times he finds some sort of corner or hole in the goalie and that's it.
It's a joke. This this is a different question on who's going to win.
But when we have like Paul Rabel in and we talked to him about lacrosse and like that's a different level. But like our hockey guys, do they ever get pissed when they see how much money the other sports? No, I think hockey players are pretty fired up to what be making what they are.
it's come back to well yeah like now it's it's pretty legit now you see these the nba stuff to me is so funny because you hear a guy you hear a name you've never heard the name you've never seen him play you've never seen a highlight and he's making 12.5 it's like it's just but more but hockey yeah more but hockey players they just's like, why would you get mad about what they're making? That's, that's the amount of money that has to go around in that league. It's just, you get a little jealous, I'd say, but okay.
I mean, hockey's going up and salary cap going up. Yeah.
Going up. They said, um, most likely like 4 million next year.
Hell yeah. And maybe by the time, I don't know, maybe 10 years, it's up from right now, like 10 like 10, 12 million.
So guys are making a lot. They're going to continue to make a lot.
The one group of guys are the stars in the 80s and early 90s. They get pissed.
Which I understand a little bit. That happens in every sport.
That sucks. Where a guy who, maybe not Hall of Famers, but close to it, they're still working now.
Yeah, it happened to every sport. Think about – I'm going to look up right now.
I wonder what Joe Montana made in his entire career. Well, no, it'll be like – His biggest year will be like $1.3 million, but you've got to also think of – He's the highest paid player then.
Joe Montana made $25 million playing football. Patrick Mahomes makes $50 a year.
Yeah, that's why Montana is doing like every commercial ever now.

Yeah, that would piss me off.

That would piss me off a little.

It wouldn't piss me off that Mahomes is making that.

It pissed me off that like someone else was making.

It's like not a good quarterback was making like $20 million a year.

It's defensemen who maybe played a long time and had a hell of a career

that saw like guys like me signing a six-year deal for $24 million. What was your final earnings? I'd probably say like $29-ish, including Russia, like $48-ish.
No, I'm just kidding. That's why he won't bash food.
$29-30. Oh, man.
I want to look up like what the baseball players were paid on average in like 94 right before the strike.

When everybody was like, these greedy fucks going on strike. Yeah, and they weren't making shit.
And then you look at what they're making right now. And it's because they went on a stop.
Dude, you're going to be 40 soon? February. Oh, no.
Yeah, I don't care. I feel young.
Yeah? I don't look young and my body sometimes doesn't feel young, but my mind feels super young. Have you taken any steps to improve your shot to compete with Frank the Tank? What shot? Your centerized shot.
Frank the Tank nailed his. I've only done one once, and the Blackhawks gave me a broken stick.
They completely shriveled me. That was Biz.
That was Biz for sure. No, I'm saying Biz probably made a call.
No, because he still thinks I'm lying, but the stick was broken. R.A.
and biz hit it. You don't think I could if I had a stick that was working? That sounds like biz did that.
Frank the Tank made his. Yeah.
I didn't know that. I actually didn't know that.
What's your golf game right now? I don't know if you saw. I shot a 72 at Shinnecock.
I saw that. That was sick.
Dude, no big deal. Yeah, you just had it going that day? Yeah, I shot a 132 the next week.
That's golf, though. That's golf.
That's golf. Peaks and valleys.
I watched one YouTube video, screwed up my swing, fucked everything up. No, then, yeah, you were putting lights out at Shinnecock.
Yeah. Oh, I hit everything.
Golf's great. This is a tough time of year for your boy.
Season's coming to an end. Yeah.
Although, it's easier to dive just all into chiclets you know you guys are working so much i'm not exactly uh a workaholic i'd say as you two are so when when golf ends at least i don't mind working a lot more because i can't you work to live you don't live to work oh yeah i'd say that'd be a good description what's uh what's on your rider when you check into a hotel if like spitting chiclets is going somewhere and you guys They're a room for you. You made it comfortable with us.
Oh, we've never had that. Peanut butter.
No, not peanut butter. Peanut M&M's.
Peanut butter's better. No, I like peanut.
No. High Noon and Pink Whitney.
I'm not as much of a diva as some may think, PFT.

Have you considered – so I just watched back – it was Labor Day weekend.

I was flying back from Louisiana, and I watched the Danbury Trashers documentary,

the untold story on Netflix.

The one from like three years ago. Yeah, Dave just found out.

It's incredible.

Yeah, I mean, I just watched it Labor Day weekend, and it blew my mind.

It's unreal.

We had a couple of the guys on the show.

So have you considered like the Pink Whitney's would be a great

unaffiliated minor league hockey team?

Biz and I have talked about an East Coast League team.

He even mentioned, like, the possibility of one in Colorado.

So don't sleep on that.

Yeah.

You might be on to something.

Can we coach a game?

No.

It's fucked up.

No, because you'll be like, who won a ring in high school?

You're the starter. Yeah, exactly.
You're the GOAT. You won the high school state D3 championship.
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So, Jake. Jake, yeah.
So, like PFT said, PFT, you introduce it. So, it was.
Oh, no.

Jake made power rankings one through 124 of every single team.

How long did that take you?

It's a few hours.

It's a great list because it gets you so mad.

Like, I looked at it.

I was like, the Cubs are 75?

Yeah.

Like, what the fuck?

And he's doing this.

He has, like, the Rangers at 18.

The Patriots are in the top 10.

No.

No.

It's, like, right now.

People actually said I had them too high. I had them in the 20s.
Oh, so this is like, what, today? Well, this show's coming out in eight months. We're never airing this.
But like recent championships help you. That's why I have the Lightning at number two.
Yeah, the Lightning is number two overall in all sports. You show them the graphic.
Wait, so am I? So the Golden State Warriors are number one. Really? Tampa Bay Lightning, number two.
This must have made people go bullies. Oh, yeah.
I think I'm going to update it every few weeks. Yeah, you should.
How are the Chiefs three, bro? The Rams are seven? You're the Rams above the abs? You're like, there's no way to actually yeah dude he's got so many I'll say this the Sacramento Kings is 124 I don't think anyone's is that a real they're still a team yeah no even Sacramento Kings fans are like Jake absolutely nailed this I think in terms of credibility as long as I nailed one and 124 so the Rangers are above the Bruins you Bruins. You just had them in your conference final.
Well, yeah. I'm thinking, yeah, but the Bruins, the Bruins won a Stanley Cup more recently.
There's just no like direct. Oh yeah.
You think? Yeah. You were in the basement for seven hours doing this, like watching two highlights.
Yeah. But people love it.
Carolina Hurricanes. Penguins are 30th.
That's pretty high. For all four leagues, I'd say, yeah.
Yeah. There's probably four or five where I really screwed up.
What is your worst one? I think Patriots 26 is really bad. Patriots 26 is one that will get people buzzing.
Well, okay. So if it's – Like the Eagles are 15 places above the Patriots.
I had the Phillies at 20 in the World Series. This is really – I feel like this is – yeah, okay.
So this is really like what's going on in the NFL right now. Pretty much right now, but like recent few years definitely play a part.
The Heat are 2-5, and he's got them 15. Yeah, why are the Bulls 83? The Bulls shouldn't be 83.
Big Cat, your team suck. They do suck, but they went to the playoffs last year.
I think, Jake, if the Tampa Bay Lightning played against the Golden State Warriors in baseball, who wins? Heat and Lightning in baseball? No, no, sorry. The Heat and the Golden State Warriors.
In baseball? In baseball. That's an unanswerable question.
Yeah, I have no idea. Oh, the Coyotes are 123.
I forgot. I did want to ask you this.
The Coyotes are playing in Arizona State's rink this year. Does it affect – like, it's obviously the same size, but – Three years at minimum.
Is there any gambling angle on it? Not really. I mean, they've lost both games there, but they, I think they, they lost the first game

against Winnipeg in overtime or shootout.

And then the next game, like the Rangers got them late.

So I think there'll be, they might be competitive.

They'll get blown out.

They're whole.

They're a horrible team.

They're one 23 on Jake's rankings.

Yeah.

Which means, I mean, you're close to getting kicked out of the four major sports leagues.

Yeah.

It's up to Jake who decides. Are we going to relegate Jake? I would relegate his ass right down to fucking.
Have like college basketball. Short porch or something.
So. We should have relegation at Barstool.
Relegate podcast, guys. Imagine if like I just have a really bad string of like gambling picks.
And next thing you know, like all you can see me is on hot ice. I'm like, hey, gee.

Or no, hot. What is it? Hot.

Yeah, hot ice.

No, it is hot ice.

I thought that was a hockey thing.

I tell Grinnelli, I'm like,

Nate's waiting. Cracking aces.

Bring him up. What about this?

Jake's got the

49ers ranked ahead of the Edmonton

Oilers. I don't hate that.
Where do you have the Yankees? 27. 27.
Oh, you motherfucker. So you're from Florida, but why are you a Yankees fan? He grew up in a Yankees bedroom.
Yeah, my dad's from New York and raised me a diehard. But he didn't raise you any hockey fan? No, he's just a baseball fan.
No, he's a Panthers fan. Panthers and Dolphins.
It is kind of crazy that you have the Patriots ahead of the New York Yankees. For the same criteria.
That doesn't make any sense at all, Jake. I don't think much of it made sense.
He did it in a basement over the course of seven hours looking at two highlight videos. It's not that hard to figure out.
Billy, do you have a question for Biz? I do, actually. For Biz.
Sorry. Buddy.
See you, boy. Actually, so PFT touched upon this earlier.
With the whole Russia situation. Oh, God.
Oh, God damn it. You thought that was the question that he asked? This isn't macro dosing.
You didn't ask me. So I was going to say, with all that happening and players might get conscripted, how was your Saturday? Conscripted? Oh, wait.
Let's do one last thing. My weekend was awesome.
You want to just go around the room and say how our Saturdays were? I had a great Saturday. My Saturday last week.
I was super hungover. I didn't do any.
Oh, yeah. You blacked out, right? He puked on the table.
That was the weekend. He threw up on Drewski.
He threw up on a fucking blackjack table. That's like never happened.
That actually didn't happen. That didn't? did.
Did not. Oh, I believe him.
Yeah. Did you see the clip where Drewski was like, oh, you threw up on the table last night? This is the thing.
No, I was... I didn't see that.
I saw him in the line. I was trying to get money out.
I couldn't even get money out, so I never even played. That's where I was like, I woke up, I heard that.
I was like, was that the table? Oh, you don't remember playing, though. Yeah.
No, I followed up. What I wanted to say, I want to give you a chance to just guess one ping pong ball because Hank has not gotten it.
He can never get it. But I feel like it's not that crazy to never get it once.
No, it is. Everyone else has gotten it.
Thank you. It's statistically harder than me who's gotten it five times.
It's statistically crazy that he hasn't gotten it. I feel like it's statistically harder to get one than it would be.
Not over 400 times. Yeah.
How many numbers? 100 numbers? Yeah, 100 numbers. I think like over 600 times.
How many times have we done it? Two and a half years. I'm sorry, but 600 times where you have 100 numbers to choose from.
I feel like it's crazy. We've all gotten it.
Twice. And it's one number, right? Yeah.
Max has been on the show for two months. He's already got it.
Yeah, but he's a Philly scum. How many times has it happened? All right, so I'm going to give you a chance.
I'm going to give you a chance. This does not count official for Hank or anyone else.
Why? We're not going to get... 69.
You know what? Let Hank do it. You aren't fucking...
If you guys do it, it should always count. Yeah.
69. 17.
All right, so this counts for everyone. They just started...
They just steal my number. PFC just says it right away.
Well, the number isn't working. We decided.
It might be time to switch. We decided that we were going to do it.
Oh, you just want to get it with your number? No, I'm just like, if this comes up 17 now, I'll probably just fucking end it. Four.
You're going to relegate yourself to hell. 28.
So, three for Max, four for Hank, 18 for Jake. 19.
19 for Witt. 17.
16. 17, 69, 28.
Okay. This counts officially.
So, there'll be two on this show. Wait, what's Hank's number? And he always takes 17 every single time? What's your number, Hank? Four.
Oh, man. This is going to be 17, 100%.
If he gets it, it would be with me. Tom Brady.
Oh, that's kind of brutal. You don't all see it together.
Big Cat sees it before anyone else. You can kind of see it.
You can kind of see it. Oh, I couldn't.
And I actually sometimes don't. Like, you can't actually really fully see it until it's all the way down.
So it's suspenseful. You got to start, like, putting some money on it.
Well, no, there is. If he gets it once before January 1st, me and PFT are giving him five grand.

But here's the best part.

If he gets it twice, he has to give us five grand.

Oh, shit.

So he wants to get it once, but then once he gets it once.

You don't want to get it.

If you can get it December 29th, it'll happen.

Although you guys are going to be on vacation.

You guys don't even work on it. I don't know what vacation is.
Never take it. Hank does.
I love it. That's probably you know what? That's probably why Hank hasn't gotten it because he hasn't played a few times.
Because yeah, 50 percent of the time he's on. No, if you puke on a blackjack table, you should be suspended from that game.
Thank God I didn't do that. Yeah.
Thank you. Boys, thanks for having me.
All right. You're the best.
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Okay, we are ready to go with one question with a quarterback and we figured because the entire segment began with us cold calling our good friend Jared Goff. He never really got a full one question with the quarterback.
So he said we had to have him back on. Off a win against the Packers.
It is our good friend Jared Goff. One question with the quarterback.
Okay, I'll start. And you get a question at the end as well my question is on a given day how many times does dan campbell say the word man man um i just said uh at least when we're in the building players at 100.
At least. I'm sure he does it a lot in his interviews.
But, man, man, man. No, he does it a lot.
Probably at least 100. All right.
I would want it no other way. This is the beauty of the segment.
That was a better question. Last time you guys asked me if the queen went to heaven.
Yeah. That's right.
Well, we were on the spot. You were on the spot.
So't it wasn't a true one question with the quarterback so the beauty of the segment is we don't talk about our questions before we ask him so big cat stole my question about how many times dan campbell says man so i'll just i'll audible and i'll just say how many times a week does dan campbell cry oh oh um you know i hope not very often um you know i know we've had some some tough losses this year that that maybe have caused a few tears but um you know hopefully hopefully not very often i think maybe maybe after last game was an emotional win against the packers maybe a tear or two was shed maybe even from myself so uh that was a good one damn i would love to ask a follow-up on that but i can't uh jake do you have a question yeah hi jared jake marsh part of my take podcast when was the last time you bit someone's kneecap off oh good question oh boy oh boy uh you know i've i've yet to do that you know we're waiting for a moment i think if i get on the ground and maybe at the bottom of a pile here coming up uh try to take a chomp. Would be challenging with the face mask situation we've got going on in the NFL, but maybe if the helmet comes off, I might have a chance there.
Okay. All right, Max, you got a question? I think he does.
He's looking at his phone. I think somebody might have.
Do you have a question, Randy? This is good. I like this.
I do have a question. It's a good one.
Are you guys addicted to faking punts? Yes. Yes, we are.
And, you know, I actually didn't even know that one was happening last week. Usually they tell me when I call this out, hey, man, here comes the fake punt.
We do it quite a bit, but last week I didn't even know. It's kind of become just like something that we do.
You know, it's just, all right, jump back off of the field and go back out there. It's just like another play in the playbook at this point for you.
Jack Fox is a weapon. Yes.
Jack Fox is an absolute weapon. I think Bill Belichick called him that, and he became the highest-paid punter about five days later.
So it's good for him. Yeah.
All right, Memes, you got a question? I do. Okay.
Did you shake Roger's hand, and if so, how injured is his thumb? Oh, good question, Memes. I know that you have been talking about that i don't know i don't know how injured his thumb is um it looks fine to me but yes i did shake his hand i said good job good game stay healthy the old uh post-game quarterback handshake and uh he was on his way but he's a he's a friend of mine guy i wish the best to uh gross i wish i yeah no i can't all right fuck it uh well so so what we learned from that is his thumb's not that injured so he's just playing like shit on his own well yeah or he just is throwing games yeah yeah okay all right jared you have a question for us um yeah well i just was thinking is that is that bench press real i've always kind of wondered it is it is it's very real uh it's very real and Billy.
Actually, I benched more than Billy last year. So he struggled to put up.
I don't think he even got 255 up. So Billy, we have a chart on the wall, and he came in last place.
And the inaugural part of my take bench off. Just a fun fact.
Really? Yeah. Who came in first place? Oh, I guess that was me.
And Max also can bench a lot,

but he wasn't part of it.

Max bench is like 285.

Yeah, no big deal.

We call him one rep Max.

I didn't know if you guys were just faking it back there or if it was the real deal in the studio.

No, it's real.

The weights are fake, but the bench press is real.

The weights are fake.

Yeah, the weights are fake.

These are hollow, but the actual bench press is very, very real. So it's a nice little trick we play.
Okay, well, Jared, thank you. This is one question with the quarterback.
Our other quarterback, Billy, is not here. He's coming in, commuting, maybe a little late.
His question would have been, how was your Saturday? Yeah, how was your Saturday? Yeah, so that would have been his entire question. Not good luck against the Bears, but also maybe text me after and be like, wow, Justin Fields really is that good.
Could you do that for me? Justin Fields is good, man. He's fast.
He's fast, man. 180 yards running is incredible.
Yeah, so maybe just remind yourself to do that. Like, set a reminder, win, lose, whatever.
Sunday night, like maybe 9 o'clock, just text me. Whoa dog just yell that's my dog he's fired up right now yeah because he knows Justin Fields yeah so yeah just text me yeah just be like wow seeing it in person that kid is truly special just send me that text please I will I will I think he's a tremendous player yeah but no i need the text i need the text after yeah sorry that's okay can you can you i hope i hope hank hank i hope hank wins the lotto soon i'll be fine he's never gonna win it that's not gonna happen oh pick a number we haven't finished the end of the show but just pick a number we'll let you have a number because it'd be great if you won and hank didn't uh i will do number you should do 17 uh oh i was uh you should take 17 um i'm gonna do 57 57 all right so i'll text you and let you know if you win this i just i'm addicted to getting other people involved now because if they win it and he doesn't it'll be so's really tremendous.
I mean, it's really hard to believe how he's done it for that long. It's really incredible.
It's like the odds are stacked against him. He's been doing this for two years.
He can't get it. Everyone else has gotten it.
He's a mathematical anomaly. Yeah.
And what's the bet now if he does get it once or something? If he gets it once before January 1st, PFT and I owe him $5,000. But if he gets it twice before January 1st, he owes us $5,000.
And if he has zero, he owes us $5,000 as well. Actually, saying it out loud now, I'm realizing we completely swindled him on this deal.
That's a bad bet for him. Really bad bet.
Really bad bet. We gave him the option.
He agreed to. So Hank's pride really took over on that one.
But you're definitely better at him at calling balls. I really hope you get 57.
That'd be so sweet. All right, so I'll text you the update.
And don't hope that Hank ever gets it because he will never get it. So don't waste your hope on that.
Use it for something else. Okay.
Yeah. I'll be following along, though, just to see his misery every week.
Okay. All right.
Thanks, Jared. Appreciate it, appreciate it man thanks to Jared Goff we're going to wrap up with some FAQs brought to you by Pardon My Cheese Steak delivery and pick up only restaurant brand bringing you craveable cheese steaks and loaded fries they got the 6 inch 6 inch 12 inch classic cheese steaks Chipotle buffalo chicken loaded fries dessert brownie bites everything get lunch dinner or late night delivery they're open seven days a week go to part of my cheesesteak.com to learn more and order now on door dash uber eats postmates or grub hub we love part of my cheesesteak perfect for a little football action on the weekend faqs hank sup fellas sup are you guys aware of how much of a constant you are in your AWL's lives? Every Monday, Wednesday, Friday I get excited to drive to work so I can listen.
I watch football games on Sunday and think I can't wait until they talk about that thing that just happened. Basically, my question is, are you aware of how important you are to us? That's very cool to hear.
Sometimes we become aware when we meet people like for example in the airport in chicago last thursday and uh there was a guy that was waiting for us outside the gate and he handed his phone to his girlfriend to take the picture of us and he goes these are the podcast guys that i listen to all the time and the look on her face yeah these fucking guys yeah like we're basically the third wheel in their relationship yes that's always fun to see i really like that it is very weird um i think that we kind of put our heads down and live in our own world a little bit where we're just you know doing this job love this job but we don't sometimes take a step back like i i don't know if i've said this on this show but like we two weeks ago i texted the group out of the blue because i was just i don't know i was just scrolling on twitter and scrolling like through the podcast charts and i saw like we're top 10 podcast episode on spotify and itunes the only ones bigger are joe rogan and news news podcasts or like crime podcasts and i texted the group i was like we a second, just be like, holy shit. Like we've been number one for a very long time.
We don't really brag about it, but it's like, we should remember how big this is and how cool it is that we all get to do this job. And then when, like PFT said, when, when we go out and meet people and they're like, I listened to you every week, I've been listening for seven years.
Like, fuck man man that's that's awesome like i don't it does kind of blow my mind i do have to do that more often where i take a step back or we get a message from someone being like going through a tough time and i've you guys have been the constant like those messages always make what we do feel so like much cooler than uh i think we give ourselves credit for so let's pat ourselves on the back It gives me a great idea. Pat, pat, pat, pat.
Because, you know, we don't. There are people who maybe sometimes brag about rankings.
We don't do it. But we should every now and then brag about the fact that we've been number one for a really long time.
When you're number one, you don't really have to tell people that you're number one. Right.
But it's cool. But it's not bad to say.
It's cool. It's like a cool thing because i think we forget sometimes how big this podcast has been for how long like you know sometimes we do this show and it feels like we're doing it for just ourselves when it's obviously not the case i would oh i'm sorry i was just gonna say big guy gave me a great idea because there are some crime podcasts that do numbers if we had billy committed crime i would do that and then jake had to solve it yeah cold case I like football yeah not to get too deep but I remember when we first started and I know it was just us three I was doing a lot of the socials and we'd see messages like that where it's like you know you're helping me go through all this time and in my head I would read that and kind of be like we're just three dudes fucking around with each other it's not that serious it's kind of surprising people felt that way and then obviously years ago, I went through a breakup.
It was like a work thing. And I wanted to get away from work or like go home.
And I would watch like streamers, like video game streamers has nothing to do with work. And it's like you're I felt that like you're hanging out with them.
You're laughing. Right.
You get away from it. And then going through that, I was like, oh, these guys are helping me get through something.
They have no idea. no idea they're just playing video games fucking around with each other but that being there helped me and that put in perspective like what we do for everyone else so that definitely is some good perspective and it's helped me realize like how helpful something like this can be yeah and I think it's healthy that we don't stop and think about that too much because we are like it is good that the show always does feel like just guys fucking around in a room i think that's what people like but i also have those moments where i think about big picture i'm like we are important to a lot of people and it's like it touches me i know this is you know i don't want to get emotional but i like really am uh like touched by that like i it is no but you know what i mean like it's it really is like something that when i think about and like your i don't want to say legacy but like what you mean to other people it's fucking awesome and i i appreciate everyone who listens and stands by us and who's been ride or die and even if you're someone who is like fuck it i don't like these guys anymore and then you come back it's okay we don't door's always open.
Yeah, the door's always open. You can leave and come back.
You can always crash at my pad, and that was a very big part. I know I talked about it about eight months ago or however long ago it was, six months ago, when I did my new contract here.
I didn't want to leave. Obviously, I love you guys, but also the relationship that we have with our listeners that we've developed over the course of seven years.
There are relationships that I used to have when I was a kid with people that I would listen to on the radio or whether it would be a host, a DJ, or my favorite band, that sort of thing, where I felt like there was a relationship there. And that meant a lot to me then.
And I realized that there are people that feel that same way about us right now. and that's not something that I ever want to take for granted because it could be you know somebody could promise the world to you to go across the street but sometimes you have to realize that what you have at home is really what you ultimately want to be at now the opposite side of that is kind of scary because like um when you think about the fact that there's like 14 year olds listening to this and we're like raising them there's going to be a whole world of yeah i mean billy look how billy's turned out that's i've been listening since sophomore yeah that's scary that's that scares me a little bit because it's like they'll someday be an article being like why is the world fucked up oh all these fucking people listen to part of my take at a too young of an age yeah they'll be like girls can't come yeah that's what most that's what most adult real thing yeah at period periods.
Periods aren't real. Justin Fields sucks, even though he has five Super Bowls by then.
Really, once Billy starts actually committing the serious crimes, then we'll obviously be able to make the crime podcast, but that will be our canary in the coal mine to tell that all the listeners that have grown up on Part of My Take are now starting to turn into criminals all at once. Yes, that is coming.
All right, we'll wrap up with a couple quick ones. Would love to get a peek behind the editing process.
How often do you cut interview questions or redo segments that the AWLs never end up hearing? Almost never. Very, very rarely.
A lot in the beginning. Yeah, I would say there's probably one joke between me and PFT every month that we're like, hey, that was maybe let's just cut that because it's like someone could think that's insensitive.
And then in interviews, maybe sometimes we'll cut a little bit just if it's long, but it's very, very little. Or actually like the first time we had Blake Bortles on the show He didn't even say anything bad but he said something

That could be interpreted as being bad

If someone were to be trying to get him. So we're just like, okay, we'll take that out of the interview.
And then besides that, we'll just text Max Homa after the show is over and ask him to take any of it out. It's very, very, very, very small.
I'd say once every 20 episodes. I also think back to when it was just us three sometimes and laugh that we were hell bent on episodes, not being over like, yeah.
And 120 minutes or whatever. So if it did, we would have to cut stuff out.
And that was always a process. And it's like that you're just stuck with us.
Yeah. All right.
Last one. I like this one.
Where'd it go?

Sup, fellas.

If the championship-deciding game of every major sport was happening on the same weekend,

what order would you put the games in to have the best weekend viewing experience?

That's a great question.

I think Game 7 World Series Friday night.

Okay. I'd go probably Hockey Game 7.
I was going to say Game 7 Stanley Cup Saturday night on that. And then I would go – yeah, I was thinking just Saturday, Sunday.
I was going to go Game 7 Hockey Saturday afternoon, Game 7 World Series Saturday night, Game 7 NBA title on Sunday afternoon, Super Bowl Sunday night. Yeah.
Super Bowl Sunday night it's easy yeah so easy obviously i would say i would say um world series friday night and then saturday morning saturday afternoon i would go college football championship oh yeah that's saturday evening i would then do uh stanley cup i would put that as my evening because that could run long yeah i wouldn't want that to bleed over into the World Series. And then, yeah, your Sunday is perfect.
I would do the college football Friday night, so it's a football sandwich. I would do NBA Saturday night and baseball during the day Sunday because it's longer.
There's potential for that being – that could be all day. That could go from 1 o'clock until the Super Bowl starts.
And then it's a day off, and then Monday you get the Masters in the afternoon. Oh, Monday's a day off? I was just saying, why not Super Bowl on a Saturday or Friday night? So there's the next day off.
Well, you have the other games, though. But yeah, Super Bowl Saturday night would be sick.
That's what I'm saying. Super Bowl Saturday night should happen.
Although Super Bowl Sunday, it's in the name. I have one more.
Hey, PM hey pmt i'm a new listener and notice you guys guess a lottery ball at the end of every show and was wondering if you give us how many times each person has won i assume everyone has won since it's almost impossible not to get it at least once right yeah i've won twice i believe i've won twice as well five times five times jake i thought you won sixes. Memes has won it once.
Zero. No, well, you don't guess.
Oh, that makes sense. Max is what? Max slash memes have won it once.
So that chair has won it once. If memes wins it today.
Oh, that would be incredible. That would be pretty awesome.
Hank, you? Have you ever won it? Liam won post mostly. Yeah.
Have you ever won it, Hank? I have not. Oh.
Wait, that's weird. Are we doing numbers now? Yeah, we're doing numbers.
16. 17.
69. I think you guys got a rock, paper, scissors, shoot for it.
Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. This is going to be a $5,000 rock, paper, scissors, shoot.
Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. I beat you.
All right, so I'm taking 17. BFTS 17.
18. 18.
69 for Billy. Three.
The fear in Hank's eyes right now.

Jared Goff has 57.

You heard him say that.

71.

71.

All right, I'll go 70.

Put the 44 back in.

Yeah, there we go.

No Mickey Mouse.

Hank, are you sure you're not gotten this?

Mm-hmm.

I don't know, man.

I feel like you've gotten this before. I don't like this news.
I want 17. I want 17 so bad.
What did I guess? 70. 44.
Oh! Back to back. That's crazy.
44 is hot, right? Whoa. Back to back.
Whoa. Has that ever happened before? I think so I'll check

Oh my god

I feel like it's happened once

Wow

Maybe not

Wow Hank

You literally could have just guessed 44

One of the last two times you would have won

Yeah you cut your odds in half

It was basically a 50-50 chance

March of 2022

72 back to back

Wow

It's amazing

It's tough luck Hank

Love you guys Some goats wash their teeth with other goats as piss. I'll be coming for your love again Shine away I'll be coming for your love again You've been so good to me Give you anything You've been so good to me Your love inside me Take me on me I'm going to be so late.
I'm going to be so late. I'm going to be so late.
I'm going to be so late. Say it to me.

I'm going to be safe than sorry.

Say it to me.

I'm going to be safe than sorry.

Things that you say get easy to lie, though.

But this is to blame my worries away.

You're all the things I've got to remember.

You're shy and away.

Love becomes weird when you're like.

You're shy and away. Love becomes weird when you're like.
You've been shy and away Love coming for you What you like You're shy and away

Love coming for you

What you like

Take on me

Take on me

Take on me