NFL Week 9, Fastest 2 Minutes, Jets Huge Win, A Regrettable Vikings Bet Plus Astros Win The World Series

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On today's Pardon My Take, week nine of the NFL season, we're going to recap every game. Fastest two minutes.
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Week 9. What? What? What? What? Alright.
So we start. We've heard your complaints.
We've heard the fans asking for this. So we start with Mr.
INT, Aaron Rodgers, who threw three on Sunday while yelling at his teammates for running out of ayahuasca. Lions fans, if your boner lasts for over two hours after taking Zylstra, please consult your physician as the tight end was elevated from the practice squad and made an immediate impact.
In a touching tribute to everyone's favorite spherical video game creature, Kirby Joseph swallowed two Rogers passes and spit out an L at the reeling Packers. R-E-L-A-X.
Relax, Packers fans. Your team can't blow a playoff game without even making the dance.

The Lions, 15.

The Packers, 9.

Huh?

Huh?

The Lions?

Lions are hot.

Down to Georgia, where Atlanta was feeding umbilical Corderell Patterson,

giving life to the Falcons' playoff chances.

Khalil Mattress Max said, fuck you to London, ripping the ball away and keeping the Falcons to 17 and under, just the way Drake likes it. The game took a crazy turn as part of my Taequann Graham recovered a fumble, but in a touching tribute to my dear friend Henry Lockwood, he lost the ball game by fumbling it back.
Has Hank ever won the lottery ball machine boom Boom. He hasn't teach.
Joshua Jeffrey Palmer told all the fans at home. I'm going to let you leave.
But first watch Cameron Dicker win this game. Chargers 20.
Falcons 17. Up to Chicago where Tyreek Hill Withers was singing just the two of us with his quarterback as he put up another monster day.
Bears fans were confused watching a waddle run slants at Soldier Field on Sunday, only to realize Tom was probably asleep on his couch in the suburbs as his son Jalen lit up the secondary. Let me take you down, cause I'm going to Justin Strawberry Fields.
This quarterback is real, and there's nothing to get stressed about. Justin Strawberry Fields.
This quarterback is real and there's nothing to get stressed about. Justin Strawberry Fields forever as the quarterback ran for a regular season record 178 yards.
The Dolphins win a shootout as Mike McDaniel Day-Lewis is a method acting as a really good football coach. Dolphins 38, Bears 35.
Over to Ryle John, Maryland, where the battle between two gritty, scrappy, deceptively fast receivers took place as Dax don't care about your feelings after Milne scored what felt like the winning touchdown for the Commanders. Viking fans looked like they had the Washington Monument in their pants as Justin Jefferson Memorial scored early.
William Henry Harrison Smith caught an interception like it was a nasty case of pneumonia as Zachary Taylor Heineke had a forgettable performance in Washington Sunday. Vikings 20, the Commanders 17.
In Cincinnati, where Joe Mixon-Awater scored a touchdown to start the scoring.

Then Joe Richard Milhouse-Mixon scored a touchdown as he said,

I am not a crook.

After that, the Bengals running back crossed the Joe Mason-Mixon line for a score.

And then Joe Mixon and Matt switched things up with a receiving touchdown.

Finally, Dasher, Dancer, Prancer, Vixen, Comet, Cupid, and Joe Mixon

finished it off with another score. Wait, Joe Mixon scored five touchdowns? Some spread.
Bengals 42, Panthers 21. Down to Duval, where Josh McDaniel Day-Lewis is character acting as a really shitty head coach.
Because, stop me if you've heard this before, but the Raiders blew a

17-point lead.

Derek Cardy B went up against

WAP! Winning-ass Peterson.

Josh, very cool Jacobs,

stepped over a few defenders,

but it was Travis Matthew Etienne

who looked more comfortable in the backfield scoring

twice. The Jaguars scratch

out the

Raiders

on the way to a victory. Jag 27

Las Vegas 20. You okay, Boom?

I'm not D's.

Are you okay, Boom? I'm coughing

the ball up like Taequann.

Taequann. Pardon my Taequann.

We head to Tampa Bay

where Bucs fans were forced to watch in agony as two girls one cup played out in front of their eyes yet again When Matthew and Cooper linked up for a first half score Speaking of poop, it looked like Todd Toilet-Bowl's team was circling the drain all the way up until Scotty doesn't know how to catch the football seemingly ended the game But as the old saying goes, never touchdown, Tom, as the ageless wonder led his team down the field in the final seconds. Cade, oughtn't you be going to bed, Tom? It's past your bedtime.
Help seal the victory and send the Bucs back into the win column. And people are starting to ask if Sean Gary McVanderchuk is actually kind of full of shit.
Bucks 16, Rams 13. And we finish in Glendale, Arizona, where fans were putting Fs in the chat for Kyler Murray, who looked like he had an extra hour of mourning.
Speaking of Call of Duty, Epre Metcalf loved hanging out in the end zone and didn't need a poop mobile to take him away this time. Cliff Energy kingsbury doesn't look like he's celebrating no nut november as it looks like they're coming for his job kenneth paltrow walker continues to make some cold plays and the seattle seahawks are a name that no one expected to see at the top of the rankings seahawks 31 cardinals 21 and that is week nine ever had one of those days when it's just too cold to keep working? Nah, neither has Ariat.
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Well, sort of. We've still got a half of football to play.
We're watching the second half of Titans Chiefs. Titans, we'll recap the game once it goes final, but they just play angry.
And I don't. It's crazy.
It's Tractor Cito season. And Mike Vrabel just has.
That's what's up. Yeah, he just has.
They might not win this game, but it's just like every time you think that you could count out the Titans, Mike Vrabel gets them up for a big game. Also, Chris Collinsworth made a very funny statement at the start of this game because Kadarius Toney got into the game for a little bit.
First play, first catch, yeah. And he said, I think that Kadarius Toney would go 1-1 overall if I were drafting players to be on a team of tag in the NFL.
I think that's got to be Tyreek. Or Kyler.
Kyler, but Tyreek. Tyreek is pretty good.
Dude, Tyreek is such a fucking beast. Alvin Kamara, because he'd probably punch you in the face if you touched him.
And then you're it permanently. Yeah.
You're knocked out on the ground. Yep.
Deshaun Watson, he'd probably come on you. Yeah.
Okay. What else you got? That's the next one that I thought of.
Yeah. That's probably it.
Yeah. I mean, it's a funny statement for Colin Ward to just throw that out there.
Tag is an all-time game. It is.
Yeah. All right, so week nine in the books.
We will recap that game when it finishes. It was a fun week nine.
Had some crazy ends to games. And I guess we got to start with the craziest game, Jets 20, Bills 17.
The Jets get their statement win. We talked about it going into this stretch they had, that if they can win one or even two of these three games against the Patriots, Bills, Patriots, they would have to be considered very much for real.
I'm ready to consider them very much for real. Their defense is really, really fucking good, and they made, as Josh Allen said, which is accountability, he said after the game, it's tough to win when your quarterback plays like shit.
Just as blunt as it could be. And he did play like shit.
He played like shit. Josh Allen played really, really bad today.
Well, that's credit for the Jets defense. I've heard a few people say, well, yes, the Jets defense did play well.
They only blitzed twice,

which I think Billy talked

about on Thursday. Do you remember when Billy

brought up that great point? Yeah, he brought

up I said it and then you said it. Yeah, and then I said it.

So they only blitzed twice

and they got pressure on Josh, but Josh

Allen also made a couple really bad throws on

his own without the defense getting in

his face about it. He played badly.

Other podcasts will talk about maybe the fact that Josh Allen might be injured, and that's why he played poorly. We're not going to do it, but I have heard a lot of people say that.
Josh Allen has a couple stinkers every year, and I don't even know if this was a stinker Josh Allen sucked. It was more the Jets' defense is really fucking good on all three levels.
Sauce Gardner is just an absolute monster. And, yeah, like the Jets, that wasn't a fluke win.
The Jets just were better than the Bills. They were.
And I know people also say, like, oh, yeah, the Bills had a bunch of guys out on secondary. They did miss Matt Milano, but everyone has injuries, including the Jets.
So I don't take anything away from the Jets. That was just a good win, a win that a lot of people didn't see coming.
And now the Jets are, I don't really know what to, like, you kind of have to take them seriously. I'm taking them very seriously.
It was also a scoreboard revenge game because remember when the Bills released their design of what their next stadium is going to look like? Yeah. And they had the giant Buffalo in front of them.
Yep. Their scoreboard said 24-3 Bills over Jets.
Oh, shit. On that.
So they gave them bulletin board material. Yeah, by accident.
And then the Jets account. Some nerd architect.
Yeah. Yeah.
It was probably like somebody in the Bills front office saw the initial design and was like, hey, can we just have it make the Jets look really bad? Yeah. Which actually is like, that's kind of a bitch-ass move by the Bills because they could have gone after any one of their other rivals or opponents.
They very clearly went after the one that they thought at the time wouldn't be that good. Well, I think maybe they're now starting to feel threatened where it's like we have to just show who's boss.
The Jets are next up. Are the Jets next up? Yeah, maybe they put that on there because it was actually showing respect to the Jets is what you're saying? The Jets are next up.
So the Jets then tweeted out an image of a scoreboard after the game, like going back at you with your own design, rubbing that in front, which is fair game. That is fair game.
That's absolutely fair. So, Billy, I would love to give you credit for this win.
Unfortunately, you disavowed your quarterback. You did pick Sam Ellinger over Zach Wilson.
We'll get to you for the Colts recap. I didn't say that.
If you go play the tape back, I said I just want a quarterback who doesn't throw interceptions and guess what? We got one today. You picked Sam Ellinger over Zach Wilson.
We gave you the opportunity. We will play the tape.
We can look at the tape ourselves. I even gave you a tape back.

You're gaslighting us.

I said, all I want, you can play the tape.

I said, all I want is a quarterback that doesn't throw interceptions,

and Zach Wilson didn't throw interceptions.

And he ran forward when scrambling, which was amazing to see.

That was big.

Zach Wilson played well.

He wasn't electric, but he made some big plays on third down.

The pass to Denzel Mims was like, that was the game pretty much. A big-time spot, big-time throw.
And yeah, he didn't kill them, which is what he needs to do because that defense is that good. He needs to be a game manager.
Yeah. As a 23-year-old in the workforce, I think that Zach Wilson, I think he needs to manage the game more, Big Cat.
He doesn't have to do it all on his own. I'd agree.
I'd agree. He did play pretty well today.
Yeah, no, he did. And Billy's right.
When he scrambled, he went forward at least twice. I saw him running in a forward direction.
That was nice to see. I don't know if the Bills' defense is really – they're built to be able to get after the quarterback because they're built assuming that they're going to get into shootouts with other teams.
And so then if they have to try to stop the run, I don't know if that's what they're going to be able to do. Like the Jets, they had a great game plan for them.
No, they missed Matt Milano, but yeah, like Zach Wilson played a good game and the Jets as a team played a great game. That would be my summation of the game.
I think that's a pretty fair take. Like you still want more out of Zach Wilson, but in terms of not killing you and also making those big plays where it's like, hey, we need you to get the first down here and we need you to make a big-time throw, he answered the call, and that was a very big step in the right direction for Zach Wilson and him, as Dan Orlovsky said, growing the fudge up.
So, Billy, what would you like to talk about in this game? Zach Wilson's maturity. We touched upon it a lot before, but he didn't force it.
He didn't try to make plays where they didn't need to be done. He let the punter punt the ball and let his defense get on the field.
It was a grimy day in East Rutherford, a little bit of drizzle, like overcast, and he showed he can grind out games in those types of conditions. He didn't throw for over 200 yards, but he didn't need to,

and he won the game.

That's all you need to ask from your rookie quarterback.

Yeah, yeah.

And that opening kickoff was very funny.

Oh, my God.

That was so funny.

Jets fans responding to it being like, how did it end up?

It's like, well, I didn't know how it was going to end up,

but if you can't laugh at the kicker slipping on the opening kickoff

and just nailing the guy seven yards.

That's fucking funny.

What do you mean by rookie, Billy?

I mean, he is second year.

Second year.

It is second.

Young quarterback.

No, but with COVID amnesty.

Yeah, COVID amnesty.

We're getting about this year.

But it was a drizzly day in New Jersey,

and you could tell from the second they kicked the ball

that it was going to be one of those weird games.

And I think that's where Josh Allen struggled, was that he couldn't get a grip on the ball and he just got lost in the sauce. Lost in the sauce.
That's good. Sauce Gardner, rookie of the year? I hope.
Defensive rookie of the year. Yeah, because they do offensive.
Obviously, there's going to be Kenneth Walker. I was thinking because the Seahawks have a defensive back that's pretty good, too.
Yes. They could actually split offense and defense rookie of the year.
Also, Damian Pierce is a monster. It's actually pretty much if you want to decide who's going to win offensive and defensive rookie of the year, just see which team has a primetime game latest in the season.
Because that, you know what I mean? Get the buzz going? Yeah. If Sauce Gardner has a game late in the season, primetime, gets a pick, boom, stamp it.
If Kenneth Walker has a game late in the season, gets like two touchdowns, boom, stamp it. That's how easy it is to decide these things.
One thing as Americans we need to be prepared for is as flex scheduling rears its ugly head, there's a high likelihood we're going to see the New York Jets playing in some football games at some times that we usually don't see the New York Jets playing in football games.

Listen, their defense is very fun to watch.

Those colors in primetime are going to be

really strange for people,

but they're good.

And their defense is fun.

December 11th,

they play at Buffalo.

That could definitely be a Sunday night game.

Wow.

That would be something.

I think if we continue to see what we're seeing, we're going to see one coach from New York winning coach of the year. Oh, you think Robert Salah? Or? Sean McDermott.
No, downstate, more in New Jersey. Yeah, it's a different state.
You're saying New Jersey. We're going to get our first New Jersey coach of the year.
Got it. Who knows? Giants or Jets? Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, if they go on DeFegel, though, it'd be hard not to give it to Nick Sirian. And we're going to get to it later, but I think Pete Carroll should definitely be in the conversation as well.
Yeah, we might split our vote then. Yeah, we might.
We've already split it in half. Yeah.
It's like a fucking, is it nuclear? We're doing nuclear physics now? Yeah, on the atom. We just keep splitting them? We're splitting the atom.
Yeah, we're just going to give everyone a vote of the year except for Josh McDaniels and Cliff Kingsbury. I think that's fair.
That's totally fair. Every other coach is deserving in some way.
Okay, any last thoughts? Oh, one thing that Zach Wilson, Billy, you like this? Coachable. Afterwards, the game, he said that they stressed in practice getting the ball out of his hands faster he was last in the nfl the last two years in 3.07 seconds and today he got the ball out of his hands in 2.31 seconds coachable he he cut the scramble in looking down field that whole thing from from the Patriots game, that whole sort of going

backwards towards the sideline and trying to make

a play, he just totally took that out of his play

call. It looked a lot better.
It looked amazing.

He took the five-yard first

down scramble when he needed to, and

he basically did everything that

I wanted to do, and I'm very happy.

Give me a grade. I give him

an A-.

A-. You weighed it heavily on if they win.
No. Yeah.
Yes. Okay.
That's fine. But I give him an A- because not every play was great.
Like that drive where he coughed it up, Vaughn Miller took him down. Couldn't have maybe be a little smarter in that situation and tuck up when you – but he won.
I think you just got to agree to pass fail. He's pass fail.
This week he passed. And I would love to say Billy was right, but we're going to have to get to your quarterback, Sam Ellinger, to decide whether you were right or wrong.
By the way, we can't judge first quarterback. We'll save when we get that.
Okay, all right. But I don't even know who that guy is.
You did pick him over Zach Wilson. We will go examine the tape.
Play the tape. It's very clear.
I never said that. It was last Monday's show.
Never said that. I said I wanted a quarterback.
Can you text memes to get it just so that we can get it live on air and we can just listen to that all together later? We should have it at the end of the show. At the end of the show, we will do a live fact check.
We'll just listen to it. I don't think I ever specifically said it.
Right. So we'll listen to it.
If we were wrong, we'll say we were wrong. Okay, next up.
Vikings, good win for the Jets. Jets are for real.
They are right now, I think, in second place in the – or is it tied for second place? No, because they beat the Dolphins. They're in second place in the ASC East.
Wow. Bill's 0-2 in the division, too.
Bill's 0-2 in the division. That's going to come into play.
That is going to come into play. And it's now, like the Jets, there's a lot of football left to be played, and there's a very muddy middle class of the AFC.
Although, with the way the Chiefs are playing right now and the fact the Bills lost, maybe the entire AFC is just a bunch of pretty good teams, no great teams. Is it don't know maybe the whole league is i think football might be mid right now it's it's kind of crazy scoring is way down i actually i looked this up earlier if you were to guess off the top of your head how many touchdowns do you think are scored in an nfl game um what do you think what's i would say.
4.5. Yeah, somewhere between 4 and 5.
I was going to say 5 too. 5.5.
I'll say 5.5. Why? 2.31.
This year? Yeah. Oh, man, the Chiefs just turned it over.
The Titans are going to win this game. Wait, that might be per team.
Yeah, I don't. That would be crazy because that would mean every game was like.
2.31 per team sounds about right. Yeah, so it would be like five.
Yeah. It might be per team, yeah.
That was a stat back for us. It happens to all of us.
Well, the way that it's written did not say per team. Yeah, yeah.
But then I said it out loud. And you were like, fuck.
And I was like, that's way too low to be per team. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But anyways, it's down. Scoring is very down.
But it's way, way down. It's down uh it was like over 2.5 i think last year

yeah no the unders have been hitting at a record pace wondering why i don't win anything but yeah

that's it's it hasn't been fun travis kelsey just threw his helmet he's very upset because he just

gave the ball away all right next up vikings 20 commander 17

uh all right so let's start with this we decided over the weekend, we have talked a lot of shit about the Vikings. They're seven and one frauds.
We refuse to admit that they're Super Bowl contenders. I think they might be the worst seven and one team of all time.
They are a good team. I'm not going to pretend they're not a good team.
But we we were like hey we got to do something because the the minnesota listeners of this podcast they need some type of satisfaction where if we end up being dead ass wrong about this vikings team there has to be a punishment and you threw out pft that if the vikings win the super bowl uh at least me and you i don't know who else is in, we're all going to get

Kirk Cousins tattoos on his face.

I'm going to get Kirk Cousins face tattooed on my ass.

Yeah.

If they win the Super Bowl.

I will do that as well.

And I think most Vikings fans understand how we feel about Kirk.

We know that the Vikings are a good team.

We know they're fine.

But Kirk Cousins, it's going to be very difficult for us to ever fully buy in on Kirk. And he's been playing pretty well.
And then he taunts you by saying you like that right in your face. He's got the chains.
Which is such a soft insult. Yeah.
And I feel bad fighting back against Kirk Cousins. Like, if it's Dr.
Seuss getting into a battle rap with you, you can't come over the top with profanity. You have figure out a way to just like i don't know he's a nice guy so nice and he's infuriatingly nice and then they dress him up with the chains so on the plane here's my only question pft do we need to have a punishment if they get to the super bowl if they get to the super bowl i would they don't win i would say that that probably that means that kurt cousins is is not a fraud entirely.
If they get to the Super Bowl, maybe we get tattoos just saying we were wrong. I don't know.
Or maybe the score. I don't know.
Or shirts that you could wear if we interview them out in Arizona for the Super Bowl. Assuming they're there.
What would they be? Just saying we were wrong? Yeah. Maybe just get an I was wrong tattoo.
Yeah, I was wrong. I could get an I was wrong tattoo.
I'll do that as well. All right, there you go.
I'll swing the pie. I'll also convert to whatever denomination of Christianity Kirk Cousins is.
Okay. I'm going to be out on that, but I will do the I was wrong tattoo.
If they get to the Super Bowl and if they win the Super Bowl, I will get a Kirk Cousins face. I'll get his face tattooed on me.
Yeah. I'm going to get.
Yeah. So there you go, Vikings.
His face tattooed on my ass. Now you can't be upset at us because now we have stakes in the game.
Like, we have our side. You have your side.
This is, the battle lines have been drawn. This is what it is.
And if we end up being right, you guys, if the Vikings don't make it to the Super Bowl, I think any Vikings fan who's listening should get our faces tattooed on their body. But I'm not going to tell, I'm not going to force them.
We're doing a handshake right now. But it would be nice.
Over the air. It would be nice if they would reciprocate.
The way I look at it, Big Cat, is sometimes when you're looking at being real wrong on a take, you got to double down on it. And so that's kind of where I am right now, where the Vikings, all sides are pointing to them being kind of real.
And I'm just, I cannot admit that I was wrong about this thing, so I'm going to double down on it. Even the way this game played out, like the Commanders had it, and then Taylor Heineke just did too much Taylor Heineke stuff where we've heard it before.
I think Ron Rivera said afterward that it's like a roller coaster. Yeah.
And then Terry McLaurin last week said that he plays every game like it's his last game.

I don't know if that's a good or bad thing.

It's a great thing.

Well, it is, but it also is like, hey, I don't have to worry about any of this.

I don't have to worry about the repercussions of the passes I'm going to make.

I figured out why I love Taylor so much.

And obviously, the way that he plays, it's great.

It's a lot of fun watching him.

But he's not going to be the quarterback of the future.

I think that we'll probably look for somebody else to be a starter besides Taylor. What about the picture? They're selling 2023 Commanders season tickets with his picture.
Yeah, because he puts asses in seats. Right, he's the future.
Because he's fun to watch. I think he's a great quarterback to root for in the Dan Snyder era because ultimately, like, I can't put all of myself

into this team because in the background, I know for a fact

that Dan's going to fuck it up somehow.

Imagine if he won a Super Bowl before he sold it to you.

That would be terrible.

That would be awful. You would take it, though.

I would renounce it.

I'm here to say I will renounce

the Super Bowl and not accept it if it's won under

the Dan Snyder regime, which it won't be.

What if he put together just an incredible winner, long-term winner right before he left? And he's like, you sure I want to leave? You figured it out? Yeah. I mean, he has changed the culture in D.C.
to the gold standard. I don't know if you read that press release.
Yes. But, yeah, with Taylor Heineke, he's a fun quarterback that you can root for, while also in the back of your head, understanding that, like, this isn't going anywhere.
Like, a relationship that you're in, the sex is awesome, but you know that you're not putting a ring on it. So you're like, I'm just going to enjoy it.
This is a summer play. It's a roller coaster.
This is summer love, baby. So I'm liking Taylor Heineke.
He's fun to root for, fun to watch. He did too much Taylor Heineke today.
That interception pretty bad to harrison smith but credit to him

the touchdown pass where he had the ref just completely obliterate the vikings defender

that's next level taylor heineke it was it was it was such a hilarious taylor heineke play because

he went back to throw it deep and it was just like everything exploded it was guys just flying

everywhere ref flying everywhere touchdown it was like quadruple coverage if you include the ref

which i am and then he caught it and rolled into the end zone. Curtis Samuel did.
That was a lot of fun to watch. Our defense is good again.
Our defense is like legitimately good. So this is kind of what's been happening with Jack Del Rio defenses over the last like three years.
Later on in the season, they just get fucking awesome out of nowhere. So I'm hopeful that the defense is going to continue to improve, but they played good enough to win today.
Kirk Cousins had a couple doy-doy plays, but he had a couple really nice throws. I'll give him some credit on that one.
And then at the end, I don't know what our special teams coach is teaching these guys, but you can't hit the center after they snap it. So we were robbed of Taylor Heineke doing something either really, really

stupid or really, really clever

at the end of the game, trying to put together a minute and a half

drive because of the

personal foul that led to the second

field goal attempt, which only left Taylor like 13

seconds, and we know that that's too much time on the

clock for any quarterback in the NFL.

But it was... I should have known

better than to bet against Kirk Cousins

on daylight savings time.

He gets an extra hour of church.

He was ready to go. Oh, they covered.
Commander's covered.

I'm going to go. Oh, they covered.
Commanders covered. Three and a half.
They did, but I bet. Yeah, minus ten and a half.
I bet Commanders minus ten and a half. That was a wild one.
I got a little over my skis on that one. Yeah, you did.
But the Vikings, their first play script is just the best. I went back and I looked're five out of their first eight games.
They've scored a touchdown on their first drive. They, every game is the same with them.
They come out and they look incredible. And then their script, I don't know why they don't just run it back in reverse.
Then Kirk Cousins, if there's a little bit of pressure or guys are covered downfield, he just does the check down thing for a few quarters and they find a way to win. They are a good team.
They have a four-and-a-half game lead right now in the NFC North. They could clinch this by, I don't know, like second week of December.
They have the one thing we will find out very quickly if we're going to get tattoos in the next two weeks because they play at the Bills and then at home against the Cowboys, and it will be like an angry Bills team that's coming off a loss versus what we think is fraud Vikings will be a good litmus test

for how things are going to go.

Yeah.

There was one.

Guess the line.

Oh, Bills, Vikings.

It's in Buffalo.

In Buffalo?

Six?

I don't know if Josh Allen's hurt.

Whose line is it anyway?

That's the thing.

I'm going to say six and a half.

What is it? Eight and a half. Eight and a half.
Wow. That's a lot of points.
I'm going to have to fucking bet on the Vikings. Shit.
This is what we've been going through all year, though, is we've kind of flirted with believing in Kirk Cousins, but we have to say no. We have to say no, Kirk.
No. Stop it.
Stop it. That's a bad host.
They're a good team. The chains were, I mean, unbelievable postgame.
On the plane with the chains. Chains off.
It's almost like they're making fun of their dorky friend. It's like putting Halloween costume on your dog when they put those necklaces on them.
They're like, oh, look at him. Isn't he cute and goofy? You know what, though? He looks like a thug.
I'm going to say. Her cousin is setting a bad example for her children, listening children listening to rap music putting these chains on i think he's a disgusting quarterback i i have uh something that i thought that made me very scared um when i saw that video i think that i think his teammates like him which is bad because i always just went off the assumption that his teammates didn't like him but now i think think they actually like him.
And so that's a piece to this puzzle that I have not handicapped. I think if you're 7-1, it doesn't matter who your quarterback is.
Right, I know, but I'm just like, they genuinely feel like they like him, so that actually makes me scared. Again, this is a moment of weakness, and Vikings fans are just going to trounce on it, and I get it.
We have been a thorn in their side, and I still feel confident, but that was the first time I said to myself, huh, they kind of want to be around Kirk Cousins. I think they do like him, and also, what the hell, Kirk? Nobody knew that you were that jacked up.
He's got an eight pack, and he's got guns, he's got biceps. Kirk, that's like when you see Adam Sandlerler take his shirt off and he's like well this guy I thought you were frumpy I thought you were funny and frumpy Kirk Cousins now is like low key high key jacked up yeah no he is he's ripped he's ripped he should have his shirt off more often I think that's the thing is like I get I'm very open about my hatred for Kirk Cousins and where it comes from and where it's been and where it's going to go in the future.
But I wish he wasn't that good looking with his shirt off. He's just running the score up on me.
It's the eyeball test. If you watch a Vikings game and you see when he just gets into check down mode, you're like, this guy is never going to make a play that isn't just right there for him.
He's never going to just scramble around and make a play or throw the ball into a really tight window. I just, Vikings fan, you have a very good football team.
You're 7-1. You're four and a half games up in the NFC North.
Yeah, that's all I'm going to say. No, you are good.
You're good. You are good, but I'm still, I hope you understand.
I hope the real ones out there understand. I think a lot of them do.
That I'm just, there's no way that I'm doubling back on this. Yeah, I'm driving 100 miles an hour at this light that I see off in the distance.
And you know what? It might be a tunnel or it might be a freight train coming my way, as Dan Cable told me. Yeah, I just, I'm a little bit softer on it just because the Vikings in their division and, you know, they're better than the Bears.
So, you know, the whole, like, if you have a bad team, you can't, people are like, are like oh well you can't talk about this other team because you have a bad team it's such a stupid thing in division it kind of makes sense do you know what i mean because like that's your rival you play it twice a year so it makes a little bit more sense when i bash the vikings and people like bears i'm like fuck because we do play each other and we are fighting for the same spot yeah Yeah, one last thing here. Think it over timeouts absolutely kill me.

I hate the think it over timeout.

They're so dumb.

Ron Rivera called a think it over timeout,

and at the time I was like, this is the stupidest thing ever.

Why are you calling a timeout to think about whether or not

you should go for it on fourth down?

Or if you call a timeout to think about whether or not

you want to challenge a play.

That is the stupidest thing ever.

If you are still at the point where you're needing an extra minute and a half to think anything over as a head coach in the NFL, that's something that you can straighten out with a weekend of playing Madden. Well, so while I agree 100%, I would use him all the time because I absolutely would panic in the moment and just be like, fuck, timeout.
Let me get a second. Let me get a second with my guys.
I would use them. I would actually only use thinking over timeouts.
I'd use six of them a game, never in the correct clock stoppage time. It would just be like, hey, this game's going a little too fast for me.
Can I just get a second? I need to catch my breath. I'd probably just go over and take a sip of water and be like, okay, I'm back.
I'm mentally back. What are we doing? That's why you have the chart that somebody prints out and hands to you.
That way you can be like, the chart told me to go. I would blame everything on the chart.
The chart says, the chart said that was a strong go for us. So, you know, we stick with what the chart tells us.
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Chiefs suck. Chiefs suck.
Titans just have their number. Every regular season, they have their number.
Lions 15, Packers 9. The Packers are bad.
Aaron Rodgers is broken. Everyone gets injured on their team.
This is fun. Dan Campbell just wants to go home and drink a beer after that victory.
That's what his leading comment was in the post-game presser. I hear you, buddy.
I hear you. For Dan Campbell to beat the Packers, which ironically, I think Dan Campbell has a winning record against the Packers.
I think he's kind of been pretty good against them. I think he might be three and one.
He might have two and one. I don't know about that because he was the Lions coach last year.
Did they go one and one last year? I think they might have. Packers won a lot of games last year.
When he was with Miami? No, I think Dan Campbell's got a... Yeah, they split last year.
Oh, they split, so he's one and two. Or no, two and1, 2-1, 2-1.
Yeah, so he does have a winning record against them. I forgot they beat him last year.
Yeah, so this is a good thing for the Lions because for a while they were obsessed with being the best losers. That was Dan Campbell's kind of mantra, which is like, we're going to be the toughest out.
Oh, they beat him when they sat everyone, week 18. We're going to be a tough out.
We're not going to roll over for anybody. That's kind of been their mantra.
Now they're able to go out there and get a win against... I still think beating the Packers, even though they're not good right now, I still think they have that allure of if you beat them, you can tell yourself that you're a good team.
Dude, all I want to do is I want the Bears to lose every game except beat the Packers this year. Yeah.
And it's probably going to go like, they probably won't, but that's all I've been thinking about because the Packers suck and they suck and they're broken and it's fun. But you know what I'm saying? They still are like recently.
It's Aaron Rodgers. They're still recently that good enough where if you beat them, you can be like, yo, we're pretty good.
Yeah, no, it's Aaron Rodgers and he will always be scary, especially to other teams, the NFC North, but they, three interceptions, two goal line interceptions, one where he threw the ball off of a defender's helmet, then went and just bitched out his team. And the other, which was like, this is how desperate the Packers have gotten.
They drew up a play for him to throw a touchdown pass to David Bakhtiari on fourth and one on the goal line and threw an interceptionception there to Aiden Hutchinson. They are bad.
Like, really bad. It was like a 20-yard pass that was 10 yards short that David Bakhtiari intercepted.
Yeah. And I think, like a lot of people I know, our own account, part of my take, memes put out a graphic showing what Aaron Rodgers has done since he's taken Ayahuasca.
Yep. And how he's fallen off, including appearing on this very very podcast might have jinxed them um i think there are certain jobs that you should not want to have

a lot of perspective if you're performing them yeah so like he says how like he's gained a lot

of perspective how this year it's like it's it's great to see the people that i get to go to work

with i appreciate every day i appreciate my job if you're an nfl quarterback you are just like an

nfl anything you should probably not have any perspective yes probably benefit for you to work with. I appreciate every day.
I appreciate my job. If you're an NFL quarterback, or just like an NFL anything, you should probably not have any perspective.
It's probably a benefit for you to be a perspective-less psycho where all you care about is just winning, and that's it. Tom Brady has zero perspective.
Tom Brady left his supermodel wife that makes five times as much money as him because he wants to come back and play for the Tampa Bay Bucs this season. To have Scottie Miller drop touchdown passes.
Perspective can be a major hindrance sometimes in life, and I think Aaron Rodgers might have too much of it. Yeah, so it's been 329 days since Aaron Rodgers has last had a 300-yard game.
That's a lot of days. A lot of days.
And I mean, they don't have any weapons.

They do have everyone just getting hurt.

It feels like every game they have someone getting hurt.

But it was crazy to watch this game because the defense finally played up to what they've been expecting all year. And their offense just has been in like first gear for the entire season.
two red zone interceptions

the last time that has been done

is Brett Favre in 2006

which was like late brett farve i know he had a one last resurgence but that was late brett farve uh when things were getting kind of bad maybe that's what's happening here maybe he's old he might be old his thumb hurts yeah well it's coveted thumb coveted thumb uh we don't like to do the hot take game on this podcast. They're dead.
We're a very rational group of human beings here. I know that we study the stats.
We watch the tape. But I think it is time that we ask the question, could Georgia beat the Green Bay Packers? Same G.
That's true. Georgia stole it from, they actually asked for permission from the Packers.
That would be a hell of a matchup for colorblind people. Yeah, colorblind people would be very confused.
Same G. I think that they could hold the Packers to under 30 points.
Yeah, no. Aaron Rodgers wouldn't throw for 300 yards against them.
I don't think so. No.
And it's just bad. This is so much fun.
I'm enjoying it too much. I'm sorry, but I'm not sorry.
If the game's played in January, I think they have a pretty good chance. Who? Just in general, if it's Aaron Rodgers in January.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you were saying Georgia.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Yes. What were you going to say, Billy? Lil Wayne had to comment on the loss.
Oh, yeah. He renounced himself, right? He said, RIP to the season.
We should have gotten rid of 12 before the season. Whoa.
Man. That's tough.
Lil Wayne out on Rogers. Whoa I feel like that's that sounds personal to me Is it crazy that's him just saying that the team sucks and for out of respect for Aaron? They should have rid of oh, you're you're spinning that way You're just not trying to you just love Lil Wayne Yeah, I think Lil Wayne loves Rogers Does he? Yeah.
He likes drinking drugs, too.

Come on. You just love Lil Wayne.
Yeah, I think Lil Wayne loves Rodgers. Does he?

Yeah.

He loves definitely shade.

He likes drinking drugs, too.

They have that in common.

Hold on.

I have a question, and this might be crazy,

but why if Aaron Rodgers is hurt,

and he is kind of hurt, right?

Doesn't he have a thumb?

Didn't you say he had a COVID thumb? He said two.

No, he actually has two thumbs.

He's got two thumbs, one of which is not that great right now.

Okay.

He did say that he has a thumb injury that's getting worse. Shouldn't they just play with Jordan Love? If the season's lost, that actually would be the smart thing to do, would it not? And the Packers do usually do the smart thing.
That's what drives me insane. And they have a philosophy and they stick to it.
Wouldn't that be the smart thing to do to start Jordan Love and just be like, hey, maybe we'll try next year with aaron rogers but let's see what this kid is i think it'd probably make your wide receivers feel like at least a little bit better as human beings yeah because right now every player that's every wide receiver that's on that team has had to deal with a month and a half of people in the media and inside your own locker room saying we stink we need to go out and find somebody that can come in and elevate this receiving point why doesn't aaron rogers have anybody to throw to and if you're in that room you're probably like what what what am i am i chopped liver like am i really that bad if you get jordan love in people don't have that conversation about like how come no one's giving jordan love any weapons right they might they might gel a little bit better. I don't understand how the cap works in the NFL.

Dead cap?

I think that's just money that you can never get rid of, right?

Even if you cut them, that's just dead cap?

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's dead.

Is this number correct?

I'm reading this number right now.

Man, this really sucks for Packers fans.

Next year, Aaron Rodgers' dead cap number is $99 million.

There's no way.

Yeah.

$99 million? That's a lot of million dollars. That's a lot of million dollars.
That's too bad. That's almost $100 million.
That's a shame. That is a shame.
I don't. They're done.
Are they in cap? They're done, right? They're done. Are they already in cap hell? Do I have to worry about this? They're done.
You guys need to reassure me. They're done.
No, the Packers stink. Okay, good.
They actually stink. Because I've done this many, many times.
They could get better. They could get better.
They're dead. They're dead.
To have them just rise from the ashes and just make me look like a fool. They just got beat by the Lions.
Yeah, they look like the Mike McCarthy Packers that last year. And they play the Cowboys next week.
I'm sure that will go well. They better be done.
If Lil Wayne says it, it's got to be true. They better be done.
And Lions. Credit to Lions.
Gutsy win. Jared owns the Packers.
Yeah, he does. Trade TJ Hawkinson.
They have two guys. He does.
Two and one. The way that you say Hawkinson.
How do you say it? You're saying it like it's a club in Vegas. Yeah.
That's Hawkinson. It's Hawkinson.
Hawkinson. Hawkinson is the club.
Hawkinson. Hawkinson.
Hawkinson. All right.
So they trade TJ Hawkinson and he, two just, they bring up a guy from practice squad. They bring up two Zylstras.
Two Zylstras. They had two brothers named Zylstra and and they both got elevated to play in a game today, and one of them caught a touchdown pass.
Pretty cool. That's kind of wild.
Pretty cool. Also, Amon Ross St.
Brown, he passed Calvin Johnson today for the most receptions through two seasons of any Lions receiver of all time, and that includes Calvin Johnson. That's crazy.
So he's had a pretty good rookie and a half year. Yeah.
And, yeah, the Lions are – this actually was big for Dan Campbell. I think the beer comment makes sense because he needed to win one of these type of games to get the pressure off him.
Because, like, if the Lions win four, five games, I think he's good. Yeah.
That feels like the right amount. Five games is improvement.
And like I was saying, you can still spin this into being a big win if you're a bad team. If you're like the Lions and you beat the Packers.
No, beating the Packers is always fun. You still beat the Packers.
So, yeah, you can. I don't ever do it.
Dan Campbell should be very happy for himself. Jared played.
I think Jared played really well today. I didn't watch that much of the game, but they beat the Packers.
Oh, I watched it. It was fun.
So, Jared beat the Packers. So So Jared beat the Packers.
Rodgers was fucking moaning and bitching and screaming and yelling. And I just want to remind everyone a quote before we go to the next game.
Aaron Rodgers did say, guys who are making too many mistakes shouldn't be playing. So Jordan Love should be playing then.
Wait, are you saying that three interceptions? Three interceptions. Those are mistakes.
Red zone interceptions. Two of them were basically goal line interceptions.
So the second interception that he had, I'm like, Aaron Rodgers is throwing this game. Yeah.
He felt like it. He looked like he was throwing this game.
Guys who are making too many mistakes shouldn't be playing. That's his quote, not mine.
That's his quote. Just saying.
Okay, next up. Dolphins 35 Bears 32 shootout Jake and I uh Jake I don't know if you want to start with your Dolphins they're they're good Tua's good yeah I mean this offense keeps not surprising us but keeps showing out every single week it's crazy undefeated with Tua like I mentioned I called them going like potentially 11 and 0 because I was looking at the soft softer schedule and then he got hurt like if he didn't get hurt you're looking at eight and one right now maybe you're seven and two when they're six and three right now and at full strength it's the most important position in sports facts he's undefeated he's undefefeated.
When he starts and finishes a game, they have not lost.

Yeah.

And he also, we don't do nerd stats, but I was told that Tua in the stat expected points added,

which sounds like a pretty good stat.

He is number one in QBs this year.

Two is Mahomes, three is Hurts.

So that proves it.

Two and I.

Then you have the Browns and the Texans at home with a bye week, you're ideally looking at eight and three. Whoa.
Wow. Entering December.
I like how any time there's a good stat out there that I learn about, what is that, EPA? Expected points added. Points added.
So as soon as I learn that stat, they're going to drop EPA plus on me. Right.
And then I'm not going to know what the fuck's going on. Yeah.
And that's one of those ones I don't want to know what goes into it. I'll just trust it.
Yeah, EPA sounds good. It sounds very good, and two is number one.
As for the Bears, another pretty much perfect game in terms of Justin Fields was incredible. He broke the regular season record for rushing yards by a quarterback, 178.
That run he made, the 62-yard touchdown run where he had like three dolphins around him and he pump faked and then just fucking hit the burners. I'm still in just like he's the guy.
He is the guy. He's making throws.
I was a part of my take guy off. It was.
And what did you think about Justin Fields? He was awesome. He was pretty awesome.
I don't know how to feel. It's upside down world.
I'm conditioned to always be dreading the offense and wanting the defense to be on the field because the Bears always have a defense and no offense. I am now in a point where it's like, because they're not going to try to win this year and they're not trying to win.
They just traded their two best defensive players. When they're on defense, I can we just get this over with like let them score a touchdown i want to see justin fields again yeah the only thing i'd be concerned about for justin fields future and he looked awesome today when he runs with the ball he does look electric and he he actually doesn't look like any other quarterback in the nfl because he's got he's got great speed but he's a big dude he's thick he's a really big guy's built.
It's tough to tackle him just straight up, even if you do get a hand on him. The only thing I'd be concerned about is why it took the Bears so long to do this type of offense with him.
Well, the first answer is Matt Nagy. Yeah, okay.
And then it took like a month and a half. He was probably resentful of the fact that they drafted him in the first place.
Correct. And so he didn't want to implement that offense with him, which is really weird.
And then with Iberflus, why didn't he— Well, Luke Getzey's the new offensive coordinator. He came from the Packers.
There was a while there where I was like, he's a secret agent, but that's no longer the case. I think he just did a bad job to start the season.
And he didn't— But anyone that's watchedin fields going back to his time in college knows like you have to let him move around a little bit but we see it all the time in the pros where guys coaches coaching staffs try to fit their quarterbacks to their system instead of the other way around and they finally were like fuck it let's let's use his strengths he's ran uh 16 out of 20 third down conversions when he's run on a third down to try to get the first down, he's converted 16 out of 20. I think he had 11 first downs today with his feet, which broke the record.
And he's making throws too because when you can run, the throws become easier because everyone's scared you're going to run. So it's all like I don't know how to feel.
He is everything I've ever wanted. So the way that he's played right now, it's weird.
I said this to you during the game. It's weird seeing a quarterback that is that exciting playing in a Bears uniform.
Yes. It almost doesn't make sense.
None of it makes sense. Because he's electric.
He's running with the ball. He's having fun.
The offense, he did smile today, which is nice to see. Because before, I was like, this is torture for this guy playing in an offense that doesn't suit his skill set whatsoever.
But watching him have fun and run through and around defenders, my brain was breaking. I was like, there's no way that this is a Bears quarterback.
And I'd like the people that like to torture you, Big Cat, with the stats. Oh, yeah.
There are a lot of quarterback stats people that like to be like, let's compare this against the last 10 quarterbacks from the bears or whatever keep that same energy yeah when the bears quarterback just did something that michael vick never did i i'm also at the point now because i'm obviously watching every bears game if when people come at me with like oh he only threw like 150 40 yards in a loss i'm just like you don't you didn't watch the game. You're not watching the game.
So it doesn't matter to me. You can say all the stats you want.
If you haven't watched the game and you haven't watched what Justin Fields has done in the last month, month plus, then your opinions are relevant because when I'm watching, I'm literally like, I am on cloud nine. I'm on cloud nine.
I'm excited for Bears games. I woke up this morning excited to watch Justin Fields.
The defense is trash. Terrible.
Terrible, terrible, terrible. It was a joke watching them try to tackle these guys and keep up with Waddle and Tyreek Hill, but I don't care.
It's even better that they're bad because that means that you get more time watching Justin Fields get onto the field next right to play the block punt the block punt decided the game like justin fields are so good today they almost beat the dolphins the block punt was the was the deciding factor he actually and he made a throw uh in that last drive to equimanius st brown i probably butchered his name too in his hands dropped it it's like he's doing everything i want and we're losing games which is good because draft picks and the the thing that people always forget about like losing games is your schedule next year and this is a but this is a productive loss yeah you lost to the dolphins and you you could definitely tell yourself we played good enough to beat the dolphins yeah we definitely and most times when your name is mentioned in a sentence with mark with mike vick you're doing something really really good and the fact that I was actually shocked that Vick had never had that many rushing guys in the game before. The Vikings game he had where he had the walk-off touchdown was like 160, I want to say.
And then I think Kaepernick beat it in a game against the Packers in the playoffs. That game was awesome.
That game was also orgasmic. Billy, what were you going to say? Also, Tyreek Hill already having a thousand games a week.
Insane. He is so good.
His flip, too. I know it's stupid to be impressed by a flip, but just his movement is just so effortless.
He's such a freak. He's a freak.
He's an absolute freak. It's like when you saw Bo Jackson climb up the outfield wall like it was nothing.
That's what it's like. Tyreek Hill catches a touchdown pass, and he does a backflip, and his feet get 17 feet up in the air on it.
It's crazy. It's insane.
I think Tyreek Hill could probably, if he spent like two years training for the decathlon, probably take home a gold medal. He's probably the best athlete in the world.
He really is insane. What were you going to say, Billy? Do you think that the usage of Justin Fields is gimmicky or sustainable? Oh, here we go.
Here come the haters. I like this.
The trolls. Did Prisco just text that to you? The trolls.
No, I'm just saying. That's a big-time Prisco take.
The way he runs is not like Lamar Jackson. It's not as elusive.
And at the end of the day, he could bring— I mean, he was pretty fucking elusive today. Did you watch the game? I prepped for this.
I saw highlights. Okay, so you didn't watch the game.
The way he runs isn't as elusive as Lamar Jackson. He takes more impacts.
He's a larger body. He didn't take that many hits today.
He's going to take more impacts. Okay, again, you didn't watch the game.
I'm just asking. I'm just asking.
Plus, the way they're using him, do you think that it's going to be something that's going to be game planned for and something we're going to see? Well, yeah, and then you have to game plan against it, and you have to game plan off it. uh so i'm happy you brought up because you are one of the trolls i'm talking about who isn't watching the games um because he he he was out he went out of bounds a lot he slides well he also was very elusive when he was just running past people and they don't have anyone like he doesn't have uh great talent around him chase claypool is nice darnell mooney think, is good.
I was probably too mean on him when I was saying that he'd be the three on a lot of other teams. He's actually playing well.
They have good running backs. They still need a full overhaul, pretty much, of the offensive line.
So, yeah, they're going to evolve. They don't have talent.
I'm just asking the question. Right.
Billy is A-1 for the Drones. No, you have to ask.
Do you have an opinion on him? Don't silence Billy. He's electric.
I'm not silencing him, but do you have an opinion? He's a brick house, and he's making plays, and he's making offense, and it's hard to create offense in the NFL. I have no idea why.
I don't even hate Zach Wilson. You've made this a Zach Wilson-Justin Fields thing.
I like rooting. No, no, I'm not.
This is impersonal. I'm just raising that because.
That's a question you were thinking about. Listen, I do think you were thinking about it.
It is valid to say that anytime you have a running quarterback, then it raises the likelihood of injury. But I don't think that there's anything inherent about Justin Fields' game in particular that makes it any more dangerous than, say, Josh Allen running with the football.
Right. But we were saying Josh Allen at the beginning of the season.
He's running too hard. I would still absolutely take Josh Allen a hundred times out of ten.
You know? Like, yes, it is something that you have to think about. But if it's a big dude running at people, chances are more often than not they'll be the ones dishing out a good amount of potting.
You know what also would get him really hurt? Is having guys not get open and standing in the pocket and getting smoked. True.
Kyle Shanahan would say you could get hurt just as easily doing that. You could just wake up and die.
Right. But I mean him.
Terry Bradshaw on him. He's moving after, like, the way he moves.
not. I'm not worried.
I know this will be something I'll have to deal with for the rest of my life. He'll win like five Super Bowls and I'll be the happiest person in the world.
And the Billies of the world will be like, well, it's not sustainable. Look, I wasn't hating.
But that's fine. I wasn't hating.
No, that's fine. I mean, we've seen like Cam Newton had amazing stretches.
He won an MVP. He went to a Super Bowl.
Right. Amazing stretches.
But down the street we saw it wasn't sustainable. You're right.
I'm just saying. You are right that Justin Fields, eventually it will probably catch up with him at some point in his 30s that he won't be able to do this.
He threw touchdown passes today. Three.
Yeah, it was great. Three of them, Billy.
It was great. Three of them.
It was great to see who was electric, but do you think that they're going to probably move away from that when they start to get more of a structure around him? Yes. I think this is more to get every—his floor has been risen because they've been using his legs.
I think once he has some really good talent around him, they can start doing a lot more passing and rely less on his legs and not have to game plan these designed runs, which actually I love because it keeps everyone off balance. The Dolphins' defense was off balance all day.
So I'm not worried. Don't try to yuck my yum.
I'm not yucking you. I was asking a question.
You're yucking my yum. These are questions.
This is disgusting. He watched a couple highlights.
I think it was a valid question. I also think that it got dunked on pretty sufficiently.
It was a question. Yeah, I know.
That needs to be answered. And I gave you an answer with the Josh Allen take, which is, like, you can look at Justin Fields and Josh Allen.
They're built kind of similar, both big guys. They both inflict a good amount of punishment.
Yes, there's going to be a risk involved anytime you have a running quarterback, but a lot of times it's definitely worth the reward. And if he knows how to slide, I actually think, I changed my opinion about this with Lamar because I used to think, oh, Lamar's not going to be sustainable, but Lamar does a great job of not ever taking big, big hits.
And Justin Fields is a tough motherfucker. He's taking big hits.
I mean, it's football. Everyone's going to get injured eventually.
Dude, remember when he broke his ribs? Yeah. In that game against Clemson? Yeah.
How many injuries has Zach Wilson had? Not that many. Cut him out.
Yeah. He should try to run more.
Pocket is a scary place. Pocket is a scary place.
He injured his knee running. Oh.
Okay, run less. Well, run less backwards, but more forwards.
Here's the thing. But then also don't hurt yourself when you're running forwards.
I know our guys were drafted in the same class i have no reason to hate the jets i don't hate the jets i don't want it to become a justin fields versus zach wilson thing because i don't want you to lose this badly i look i'm just posing questions we don't have to make him better we're just discussing yeah right anybody that's putting the honest eyeball test on those two quarterbacks would be like uh you're insane thinking that right now Zach Wilson looks like a better future. I know it's been recent too.
I listened to the tape and I said if you were to join my two tapes if you were to join my two tapes no we have it play the whole tape it was's first start. Yeah, so Billy, actually, I'm glad that you brought up Zach Wilson.
Would you give up Zach Wilson right now for Sam Ellinger? How deep into this take are you? I'm deep into both these takes really, really deep. You can only be deep in one.
It's like holes. Well, I'm just saying as a guy who doesn't throw interceptions.
No, I'm talking holes. Whose hole are you inside of? I'm in both holes.
Very deep. And if I want to make a tunnel between the two of the holes and make a tunnel system.
Pick one hole. Okay.
Then Sam Ellinger would probably go to the Jets. That is not what I was saying.
Whoa. That's a big moment.
Big thing you just said. Oh my.
I'm going to let you take it back. You backed me into my hole.
I'm going to let you take it back. You have five seconds to take it back.
Five, four, three, two, one, and it's permanent. It's permanent.
Not the guy. Zach Wilson's back.
You want to see him out of the way for Zach Wilson? Play the whole team. Shut up.
Make it permanent. I just said as a guy who doesn't throw interceptions, that's the kind of guy you want as your quarterback.
Yeah. You're making it worse right now.
You're just talking about Sam. No, I'm saying I just want a guy with no interceptions.
That's what I said. The only thing I said.
No, Billy, in that moment, you were referencing that Zach Ellinger. No, I said I just want a guy with no interceptions.
I just want a guy with no interceptions. That's what I said.
If Sam Ellinger was on the Jets, I could both root for Sam Ellinger and the Jets at the same time.

But that's what I was saying.

Billy, you know that in that moment you were referring to Sam Ellinger being the guy that didn't throw interceptions.

When people are just yelling at you and backing you into a corner, it's hard to get your real point across.

I said I wanted a guy with no interceptions.

That's what I said.

And you can hear it on the tape.

Okay.

I heard what I heard.

I think Billy is gaslighting us a little bit.

I heard it, too. You're Zachlighting us.
You guys Zachlight me. I heard what I heard.
I think Billy is gaslighting us a little bit. I heard it, too.

You're Zachlighting us.

Yeah.

You guys Zachlight me.

I've been Zachlit.

I heard it, too.

And I gave you the chance to take it back.

No, you guys just yelled at me.

That's the worst part.

I couldn't get my point in part.

I said a guy with no interceptions.

That's all you want.

That's tough.

Okay, well, why don't we bring up?

You want to talk about the Colts?

Yeah, yeah.

Patriots 26, Colts 3.

All right. Let's see where we're going to start.

Okay, I'll just read off some stats. Sam Ellinger had 43 net yards.
He had 103 passing yards, 9 sacks for minus 60 yards. The Colts were 0-14 on third downs.
The Colts' lone scoring drive today was eight plays, 18 yards, 40-yard field goal. They ran 60 plays for 121 yards total.
It was a debacle. A total debacle.
A total, total debacle. It was bad.
Colts 0-for-13 on third down. 0.
0 for 14, excuse me. It was a good stat-padding game for Judon.
You've got to have one of those. He's up to 11.5 sacks right now.
Credit to Sam Ellinger, though. I want to say something very nice about Sam Ellinger.
Because after the game, he said everybody is going to look at those nine sacks and say it's on the offensive line. But it's not.
It's on everyone, including me. So credit Sam Ellinger for saying very clearly, everyone's going to look at the nine sacks and say it's on the offensive line.
Everyone's going to say it, but it's not. It's on everyone, including me.
Wow. So I thought that was big of a ability.
I thought taking that type of leadership, and as a Colts fan myself too, I got to say that's the kind of guy that we can build around. Yep.
But we gotta fire Frank Reich. Yep.
Get him out the door. Yep.
If you watch the game We did. Oh, we watched the whole game.
I watched the whole game too. Yeah, we did.
Sam Ellinger got fed to the Wolves. Yeah.
In a rainy Foxborough day. It was not It was rainy.
It was raining. How much rain was there? It was cold and rainy.
It was a messy day. How rainy? The same weather system that made East Rutherford rainy also made Foxborough rainy.
I think we're overstating the amount of rain that was happening today. It was a drizzle.
It was a weird drizzle. Drizzles are tough.
You've got to play quarterback in drizzles. No, but I'm just saying.
Sam Ellinger got fed to the Wolves in his first game against Belichick. No one wants to drizzle.
These Wolves. It feels like you're being spat on a little bit.
There were a bunch of moist Wolves running around out there that just tore him limb from limb to that. In his first game against Bill Belichick, you can't really judge any rookie quarterback.
I think we can say that from every single quarterback. Second year, but yeah.
Well, first year start. Oh, he played last week.
He played last week. Yeah, it was his first year.
First year starting. I do agree with that, that Belichick against young quarterbacks, he's a wolf.
And he had nothing. Now, though, if it had gone reversed and Sam Ellinger had thrown three touchdowns, what would the response have been? We would have been like, he's the best ever.
I don't think any rookie quarterback has thrown for that much against the modern Belichick Patriots. I think I don't think that's definitely

up there, but I don't think anyone's had

tied with three or more than three. I wonder what Josh Allen's

done against him. Josh Allen threw three interceptions

against him, and I know he's had

struggles against him. Justin Fields had a pretty good

game against him. In his first year?

Well, they were in the same draft

class, Sam Ellinger and Justin Fields.

This is Justin Fields' second

year. Also Sam Ellinger's second year.
Yeah, okay yeah i just want to double first year starting right first year starting right so he's working all right let's talk about you at the jets one so right there you go okay but i wasn't really concerned we're talking about your guy uh yeah frank reich needs to be fired it's crazy that he fired the oc uh they traded a running back. He then benched Matt Ryan.
So he basically was like, everyone else is the problem except me. And then he comes out and puts out this type of offensive output.
It was a last stand, and the last stand was a complete dud. And I don't know.
Jim Marce has to. I know he doesn't like to fire guys he's probably crying right now thinking about it but that was one of the worst like games offensive games like everything and the patriots weren't even the patriots didn't play that great like their offense wasn't that great and what their offense wasn't no it wasn't gross.
Yeah, right. It wasn't like the Patriots were playing their A-level game

and they just beat the fuck out of the Colts.

The Patriots were playing a C-level game

and they beat the fuck out of the Colts,

telling you how bad the Colts played.

Yeah, the Colts were very, very bad today.

And they were missing Jonathan Taylor,

which is a pretty...

That's like 90% of their offense when things go well.

Injuries happen.

They want to feed them.

Injuries happen.

But there's no way that Frank Reich is going to stick around as a coach.

He can't.

Thank you. pretty that's like 90 percent of their office yeah when things go well that's they injuries happen want to feed them injuries happen uh but there's no way that that frank reich is going to stick around as a coach i like i like what jim ursa is doing though he's rebranding into being the guy that just goes after snyder full-time because everybody's like great job sir great job thank you for speaking out for the voiceless but he's also kind of neglecting what's going on his own backyard right which is and it pains me to say as a Colts fan but uh I mean Frank Reich needs to be gone last week and you know and you know like we always talk about the signs that people should look for uh the owner saying I have full confidence in the coach the coach firing the offensive coordinator uh the coach you know maybe making the play calls himself Frank Reich did the final one today he said in the postgame press conference, I know this doesn't carry weight out there, but you're never as far off as you think.
You're pretty far off. You're pretty far off, dude.
We're so close, guys. You're pretty far.
Guys, we're so close. It's just we get a couple bounces here and there.
He's doing the one play and everything could be different. And I don't think that's the case right now.
I think, actually, they did Matt Ryan a favor. Like, Matt Ryan not having to be part of this is actually very nice for his own legacy.
I think we have to look at this and say nine sacks. If it was Matt Ryan, it would probably be, what, 14, 15 sacks today? He would have been dead.
Yeah, Matt Ryan would be dead. Frank Reich saved Matt Ryan's life today.
Yes, he did. Which is hero.
That's more important than any final score could ever be. Hank, how are you feeling? You weren't that pumped.
Nah. No.
It was a gross game. It was a three and out fest.
Offense didn't look good. Playing against basically a college quarterback, so I don't really think that counts.
and then when you look at the division it's like you know the jets are legit the dolphins are legit the bills are legit it's just a weird i mean we've we've kind of had this ongoing conversation of just dealing with with being mid but it's it's you know we won but yeah at what cost not even at what cost it's just how excited can you get about beating sam elling? Here's something to be excited about. Nick Folk has not.
Matthew Judon's a beast. Yeah, he is.
I got pretty excited last week. It's okay.
Yeah, I mean. It's okay to be a different.
What does that mean? Yeah. Different franchise.
That's true. In that case, allow me to explain something to you.
Here's what you should do is just rebrand into being like the AFC Beast, best division in football. Oh, I did that.
Okay, good. Yeah, you're well on my way.
I'm well on my way. No, it is true.
They are. It is the best division in football.
Hank is going from the top to the middle, and we're clawing from the bottom to try to even – like the middle would be great. Yeah.
If the Bears were the middle, I'd be like, this is awesome. It would be an 8-9, 9-8.
We're the spoilers. We're basically playing spoiler for the rest of the year.
No playoffs? No, we can make the playoffs, but it would be surprising. If we made the playoffs over the Jets, Dolphins, or Bills at this point, it'd be a shocker.
Maybe the whole AFC beast does it. Is that possible? That'd be fun, yeah.
I don't think that's possible. Yeah, with seven teams, now it is.
It's possible. Yeah, that'd be really cool.
Did I just lighten your mood? Yeah, I like that. Yeah.
When do we get the first playoff machine? I need to know. We need a playoff machine in week 10.
We really do. Playoff machine rocks.
Nick Folk has nine field goals in the last two games. That's got to count for something.
That's awesome. He's the guy.
That's a lot of field goals. That's a shitload of field goals.
It is. That's bad.
That's bad. Three points.
Three points. Pretty good.
Yeah. I mean, you can beat teams like the Colts with field goals that's a shitload of field goals it is that's bad like i don't that's bad three points three points pretty good yeah i mean you can beat teams like the colts with field goals the beginning of this game i think was was five straight three and outs maybe the colts got one like first down off a flag it was just gross it's rare that you can say um up winner but i had the under because both in our Friday picks and then I bet it, and I was just like saw maybe five minutes.
I was like, yep, that's a winner. They could play forever, and this is not going over because it was that bad, and it looked that bad the whole time.
But five and four? Yeah, five and four. Bi-week Jets.
Bi-week Jets. The Jets, that feels like, whoo.
That's a big one. I'm excited.
That's a big one. Revenge game.
Yeah. With a timid Zach Wilson.
No, I thought you were saying revenge game because they just beat up your quarterback, Sam Ellinger. Revenge for both games.
Double revenge game. I think that if Zach Wilson defends your honor by beating the Patriots to reclaim Sam Ellinger's name, I think I might grant you a one-week reprieve to switch back.
Yeah. I never went.
You could do the take-backs. But you have to admit that you switched off.
I never switched off. That's the only way.
Okay, then I won't allow the take-back. The Colts have to play the Raiders and then the Eagles.
I mean, the Raiders are so so maybe they'll win but this is i they have to fire everyone this was a perfect game actually for for mac jones to get back out there get a win probably didn't get booed by the home crowd right no i don't think so who who gets fired first there's actually three guys that can get fired at this point i agree it's josh rutanos Cliff Kingsbury, and Frank Wright. No way do all three of those guys make it to the end of the season, right? There's no chance.
I would say Josh McTanels is probably the most likely because it's his first year. First year to make it to the end of the season.
Yes. I think Cliff, we're looking at a possible Cliff firing first.
I think Cliff might get fired at when is their bye week? Because I just think that Ursa is going to hold off on firing. And you're right.
Frank Reich might be able to talk him into keeping his job, depending, again, on what Bob Dylan's song Jim Ursa has listened to most recently. Yep.
He can be talked into doing just about anything. So I think that it's unlikely that Reich will get fired midseason.
He might, but I think it's less likely that Cliff will. I think Cliff, if Cliff loses to the Rams, 49ers, and Chargers before the bye week, I think he's going to get fired.
You know what would be very funny, though? If Cliff got fired from the Colts, or excuse me, Cliff got fired from the Cardinals, and then got hired to be a head coach at a better franchise. Yeah.
Like, continued to fail off at this point. They're like, hey, Cliff.
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Okay, next up, Chargers 20, Falcons 17. The double fumble.
This game was crazy because it felt like the Falcons were kind of in control. And the Chargers were down to, they were missing Keenan Allen and Mike Williams.
So they were, Joshua Palmer was their wide receiver one who had a great game. And it looked like the Chargers were about to win.
Austin Eckler fumbles. Tyquan Graham picks it up, starts running, and just dropped it.
Just dropped the ball. Chargers recover.
45 seconds left. They get a first down.
They win with a field goal. I don't really know what to make of this game other than the Chargers are really beat up and they won.
You could make the argument, hey, that's a gutsy win for the Chargers because they have so many injuries. They went in there, they won, and the Falcons have to be kicking themselves because that's a game they should have won.
And that's before the double fumble. I think what you just said, the last 30 seconds,

perfectly encapsulates the last, I don't know,

like 10 years of being both a Chargers and a Falcons fan.

When I saw these two in the schedule that they were going to play each other,

I was like, dear God, somebody's going to get their heart broken.

That might have been the shortest spike in win probability of all time for the Falcons on that fumble recovery.

I don't think that anything could encapsulate both those franchises more perfectly than that one play. The Chargers driving to win the game.
Heartbreaking boneheaded mistake to give the game away. The Falcons are somehow going to end up with a chance to win this game or at the very least take to overtime, and then through absolutely no action by the other team, completely self-inflicted, do something terrible to give it right back and have them figure out a new way to lose.
It's perfect Chargers-Falcons theater. It really was.
Now, I think that the Chargers are still a good team. I think that if they can get healthy, I'll say it like that.
Yeah, which is also every Chargers season ever. If the Chargers can get healthy, then I think that they could win a playoff game.
But it's the Chargers. They're probably not going to get healthy, so they're probably not going to win a playoff game.
I'd agree with that. I still – the Chargers, something about them, I think it's because we've been force-fed the narrative that Justin Herbert is next up, and he's a very a very good quarterback i'm always looking at them being like they should be better and they're like well they have this guy this guy this guy this guy this guy injured it's like okay well they're ever gonna get healthy so maybe this is the season where everyone got their injuries out of the way and then they get to the playoffs and everyone's healthy and they're the best team that'd be great they might peak at the right time yeah by the By the way, Mahomes just made an incredible run.
He... Titans are playing

an incredible game. We'll recap

all of it at the end, but just put a

note in that touchdown run

that Mahomes just had. So,

the Falcons, not only the

blip in win

probability, are we

a little worried that this was also their blip

in winning the NFC South?

Because they were... There was a moment there where they had the lead going in today.
If both these games were playing at the same time, I know that they weren't. So the Falcons obviously played first and the Bucs played in the afternoon.
But there was a moment where it felt like the Bucs were definitely going to lose. And it felt like the moment where the Falcons were going to win.
And they could have had a two-game lead in the NFC South. That would have been nice for those of us.
And now the Bucs are back. They're in first in the NFC South because of the tiebreaker.
Saints win Monday. They'll be tied up at first as well.
It seems like this was the moment the Falcons had, and the Bucs, as bad as they've been, to be like,

oh, we're in first place at four and five.

They have to just be like, holy shit, how is this possible?

Yeah, it's good for the Bucs that they're there.

And the concern I have as somebody that does have a future

on the Falcons to win that division is we looked ahead at their schedule.

And, well, me personally, I was like,

they've got a pretty easy schedule.

Their schedule might be hardening in front of our very eyes. It's getting harder.
So they're playing the Panthers, the Commies, the Bears, and the Steelers in their next four. It sounds pretty relatively easy.
That's still pretty easy. But it's still pretty easy.
But the Panthers aren't as bad as we thought they were. They looked like dog shit today.
They looked terrible today. I think the Panthers might be as be as bad i think they just had those this happens the nfl where a team will have one or two games where they'll blip up and be like oh they're frisky and i'm i am definitely guilty of this because i think i said the panthers were frisky and fun and then you just once you get a couple more games down the line and the losses start to to rack up yeah and then's like, you know, December and your team sucks and it's hard to get up for

every game.

It might not.

They might not be as frisky as I thought.

They might.

But I think it's week to week, too.

Like, yeah, if they showed up, if those Panthers showed up again, what a Thursday night game

we've got.

Incredible.

Yeah.

Oh, I can't wait to actually record early.

Yes.

Record early again with the with the Falcons and the Panthers play on Thursday night football. the Manders not that easy of an out yeah they could beat the Falcons I could see that happening Bears could definitely beat our definition of a frisky team although their defense is so bad I think they'll lose to anyone who can put up a fight and then the Steelers I think are going to have they might have T.J.
Watt back by then right that's true and then they they never win without T.J. but when T.J some reason they always win always it is a different team that's like saying Mike Tomlin's never had a team with a losing record though like TJ Watts been on some some okay to above average team yeah but he is he is the kind of guy that could make it so you're agreeing that this might have been the moment and the moment might have I don't necessarily think that because I think that the Bucs are legitimately bad.
Yeah. I'm not buying

they had one good drive at the end of this game.

Yeah, no, that's true. We're going to get to it.

That is absolutely true. I think the Bucs are bad, bad.

Yeah, but the

Chargers feeling like they

got a little reprieve. Like I said,

I think they were off the pie.

Just the double fumble was so perfect.

The fact that that happened

and also Austin Eckler

scored maybe the coolest touchdown that didn't count

when he was able to keep his body up. That touchdown was so awesome, and they ruled him down with his elbow.
That touchdown ruled. So it was a fun game.
I felt like I was watching the whole thing and being like, there should be more points. There just weren't.
And now, who knows? The Chargers, I'm going to keep thinking like, oh, they might be – I feel like they're just going to be destined to be the same Chargers where it's like they're going to finish one game out of the playoffs and everyone's going to be like, man, if they had just made the playoffs, would have been tough. Yep.
Would have been a tough team. And then next year.
Next year they're going to be the team. The smart money's on the Chargers.
Everyone's healthy until like their first day of otas and someone gets hurt and like okay well now like someone someone takes a step off uh like off like literally out of the truck that they drove in on it's like oh yeah our starting cornerback is now hurt uh all right next up Bengals Panthers this was just a complete whomping. Joe Mixon show, five touchdowns.
At halftime, he had 15 carries for 113 yards, three touchdowns, four catches for 58 yards and a touchdown. So he had four touchdowns at halftime.
He finished with 211 yards and five touchdowns. Also, the Bengals in the first half had more points than the Panthers had yards.
35 to 32. Yeah, that's tough.
We might be seeing the return of Baker Mayfield, though. Yeah.
Because they put him in the second half, the P.J. Walker experiment might be over.
Yep. He had a tough go.
It was so fun. I fucking I love P.J.
Walker. I hope he plays in the NFL forever because he is fun as a spot starter.
And the Bengals, again, just if you want the surest bet in the world, it's bet the Browns against the Bengals and then bet the Bengals the next week. Oh, we should have mentioned.
Totally forgot. The streak lives on.
The teams that play the Panthers lose the next week. Okay.
Because the Falcons lost. So now the teams that played the Panthers are 0-8 in the game after.

So now the Bengals next week are playing the Steelers.

At the Steelers.

Oh, man.

TJ Watts.

I might have.

Oh, well, no.

It's two weeks.

Okay.

So the bye week.

We have the bye week and then.

Wait, no.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, yeah.

The bye week and then at the Steelers on the 20th, Sunday football but it worked for the bye week when the when the uh four four or sorry the Rams did it so I I'm we might have to do it just out of out of a weird stat bet it might be just our weird stat bet of the year it might be uh like no don't even look at don't even look at advanced numbers don't even think about matchups just be like oh the Bengals last played the Panthers they're gonna lose the next just follow the trend yeah it's not i mean sometimes the best bets are just completely bullshit made out of thin air all of the best bets yeah uh yeah this is joe mixon's career game yeah signature game for joe he is and if this were if there were a heisman race then this game is like when you have a guy that puts up like six touchdowns against a division one double a team did you see smu versus houston last night i did i did watch tanner mordecai uh for smu had nine touchdowns yeah that's as high as nine touchdowns that's what joe mixon did today 22 carries 153 yards and it must have felt so cool going into the end zone and getting to do the one two three four five that's the coolest thing you can do at what point do you stop counting i'm sorry at what point do you start counting because i think you start at three three you can't do two two i don't think you do two is like you should get two two is like you're if you're celebrating two you'll never get two right and you'll yeah and you definitely won't get three yeah you should expect if you if you're a two guy, like Travis Kelsey should not be celebrating two. Yeah.
But doing five, that's got to be the coolest feeling ever. To just count all those and be like, look, I got five.
Five of them. Yeah, this was an absolute whomping.
Also, another great call by us. We've been on a mini hot streak of picking games on the TVs, and we didn't put this one on the TV, and it was over so fast.
First quarter. First quarter over.
Just completely done. So credit to the Bengals.
They're back. Yeah, again, Thursday night football, Bengals, Panthers.
No, Panthers, Falcons. Sorry, Panthers, Falcons, Thursday Night Football.
If you must do an activity on Thursday night this entire season,

I feel like this is probably the one, right?

Yeah.

If you have any brownie points you need to accumulate,

any recitals you have to go to.

This is like, oh, yeah, let's go out to dinner tonight.

I thought Thursday Night Football's on.

Nah.

You know what?

I'll skip it this week.

You know what?

I love you so much, babe, that I

don't want to watch football. Yeah, actually,

it's Chiefs-Bills. They're playing again,

but I don't want to watch it. It's fine.
We don't have

to watch this one. That's the way to do it.

By the way, just a

note on the

after Panthers game

stat. We actually will have

before Bengals-Steelers

play Monday Night Football, the Bears play the Falcons on that Sunday. So we'll know.
So if the Bears beat the Falcons then you have to hammer the Steelers versus the Bengals. And that was betting advice given to you by PMT.
That's the soundest betting advice you can get. Alright, next up.
Jaguars Raiders. The Raiders.
This was a mean stat and also a meaner picture because Josh McDaniels has maybe put on a little bit of weight. It happens when you live in Vegas, the buffets, everything.
To win. Going to Hawkinson, TJ Hawkinson.
Yeah, like just living it up. The Raiders, in their franchise history from 1960 to 2021, they have blown five 17-point leads.
In the first eight games this year, they've blown three 17-point leads. Josh McDaniels, he could have just kept on coaching forever as an offensive coordinator at the Patriots.
He never would have been ready to be a head coach. And we all thought enough time had passed since the Tebow Broncos.
this is the rare the raiders would have been better off if they had just hired rich bisaccia and the patriots would have been way better off if they had just somehow kept josh mcdaniels yeah so josh mcdaniels right now means that josh mcdaniels has the worst record among all active head coaches. Oof.
Oof. Pretty bad.
And Dan Campbell went 3-13 last year. And if you were to subtract those six games that they got off to the hot start when, as his former team said, we were cheating, that's why we won when we were on the Broncos.
His record is now, I believe, 7-23 in non-cheating games. So 13-23 overall.
And the 17-point come-from-behind victory for the Jaguars, if it's not so bad looking at on the Raiders' side where you see that, oh, it's been done three times this year compared to the rest of their history. On the other side, from the other perspective, the Jaguars are 1-116 when falling behind by 17 points.
Oh, my God. So it's a reverse bad stat.
It's a reverse bad stat as well. Holy shit.
So you pick the one team that you couldn't do this to, and you did it to them, and you did it hard. Also, this is a weird stat.
The Raiders hadn't allowed a 100-yard rusher or receiver until today. Whoa.
Despite how bad they were. And Travis Etienne barely got it.
That is a weird stat. They've just been allowing like three 90-yard receivers to other teams.
Everyone gets the end. But they've been able to – they take away your best option.
Yeah. And they limit that person to 99 yards.
I actually think that when they played against the Saints, I feel like Kamara had like 97 yards rushing and like 96 yards receiving yeah in that game so it doesn't really mean that much but also trevor lawrence recorded his third game with a completion percentage of 80 plus percent tying mark brunel and david gerrard for the most in the history of the franchise oh i have another one i have another franchise record okay it's very fun for the jaguars i've got one for this yeah doug peterson today with his third win he's three and six with the jaguars uh he is now in sole possession as the fifth winningest head coach in jaguars history yeah he passed urban meyer today he passed urban meyer mel tucker and mike malarkey who all have two wins that's pretty cool yeah it's incredible that's pretty cool great job doug he's's fifth all-time with three wins. Yeah, Trevor Lawrence did play well today.
Like, this is – we have to just keep reminding ourselves not to overreact, even though I'm overreacting to everything Justin Fields does, hand up. But Trevor Lawrence played well today.
So credit to him. He beat the Raiders.
And Travis Etienne is awesome. It's so stupid.
It's actually very similar to similar to like why didn't the Bears just run the offense that works for Justin Fields the fact that the Jaguars had to trade away James Robinson to realize oh this guy we spent a first round draft pick on turns out he's electric maybe we should run him more I think it's because he still had that stink of urban on him yeah we're like the new the new uh committee comes in and they're like i don't know if we should really be giving this ball this guy this guy was scouted by urban meyer and he stunk out loud yeah like how much do we trust him he's awesome and i saw i saw the the duck foot on atn today did you see that yeah he had a couple really long runs where his feet which they point out at about 45 degree angles it's Watch his feet when he runs. He's able to change directions faster because his foot is already pointing a little bit off to the side.
It actually does work. That's insane.
I mean, who would have thought that that would help someone be a better runner in the NFL? He said, it's something I was born with. I've always walked kind of duck-footed.
There it is. And he's an electric running back for it.
I also just, Derek Carr and Devontae Adams are like the biggest tease ever. They came out, just lit it up in the first half.
146 yards, two touchdowns between the two of them. And second half, one catch, zero yards.
They just, I feel like the Raiders are the ultimate tease team this year, where it's, they will show flashes and you'll be like basically next time they play the chiefs they'll get up for that game and you'll be like why doesn't this work and then they'll play anyone else name any other team and you'll be like oh yeah they suck they fucking suck yeah so in that game where the cardinals came back at them in the fourth quarter and won that game yeah in las vegas turns out both teams sucked yeah and so the raiders just sucked a little bit more yes that is absolutely true yeah we're finding out we're at the point of the season where um the aberrations we're like oh yeah that was weird that game was weird uh the cardinals played pretty bad or the raiders played no no those teams suck they suck and that's just what they are and we're about to find out which son from succession Mark Davis was in the Al Davis chain of things. Yeah.
Like, how cutthroat are you, Mark? Because if I was Mark Davis, I would be sick of this guy taking my money. Yes.
And I would fire him during the year. Yes.
Yes. And he's...
But the thing is, I think Mark Davis is like the poorest NFL owner. Is he like Greg the Egg? I'm pretty sure...
Now, this is he is maybe a stat that I you're right this might be a fake stat but I I'm pretty sure when they hired John Gruden they had to put like all his money in escrow because John Gruden was like I don't think you have this well yeah I don't think you have a hundred million he's not that liquid yeah and the the weird thing thing is when I think it's his mom. Yeah, his mom.
When his mom, she's an older lady, when she's no longer with us. What happened? The franchise goes to Mark Davis.
When it goes to Mark Davis, if you're a billionaire inheriting like a billion dollars worth of things, you have to pay the inheritance tax. Yeah, Florio Tata.
Which is going to be like 30%, and you have to come up with that in cash it's not like you can take out a line of credit against your own franchise that you own and be like my i own a franchise that's worth four billion dollars can a bank give me a loan against that right so i can pay the the government you have to come up with that money right now so he won't be able to do that bill you're giving us a face and then billy i would love i would love to debate tax no no no are we sure that his mother is alive or dead no she's alive but is it like uh is it like a hotel uh what's the are you talking about carol davis is very much alive who is the who to in this situation no i'm saying 90. Oh, I love this.
Weekend at Bernie's. It actually goes to Billy's point.
I just looked her up. She's 91 slash 92 years old.
Okay. So we don't really know when her birthday is.
Mark Davis would definitely. It's Psycho, right? The movie where the mother is not alive.
It's not doing well for her because the two i just searched her she's 91 slash 92 years old and the first picture that comes up is mark davis standing over her while she's in a wheelchair that's those aren't great signs of like norman doing well yeah it's not good probably probably breathe the sound of relief when castellanos flied out at the end of the world series. Yes.
Finally. We got a whole offseason.
We don't have to worry about this guy. Yeah.
So, Josh McDaniels. Wow.
It's bad. The bottom line is he should be fired.
I saw a funny meme from the Raiders. One of those Raiders meme accounts said, breaking news, Josh McDaniels has tested positive for ruining a playoff team.
That's good. That's pretty good.
I game it gave me a little chuckle that's some good NFL unit humor you know that is like some old school NFL memes humor I just needed that give me some like bring back some Chuck Norris memes you remember those remember when they did it's been a while since we've had a good Chuck Norris meme come up remember when Bleach Report used to do like the text messages between quarterbacks oh yeah or like those were hot chat that was hot for a while and just like eli like it would be every every text message between quarterbacks meme would just be leading up to tom brady texting something and eli being like i took two rings from you yeah that was the joke that was the end of the joke it was a bunch of quarterbacks texting and they just get to that every time yeah um okay let's do our last ad before we get to our last two games and then we'll do football guy the week we're still waiting for the chiefs titans game to end but we will recap it i promise you because it's actually been a fucking good game very good game crazy fourth quarter um okay so yeah pft do our last ad then we'll get to those last two. I want to tell you guys, this is your chance.
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Four games today on Sunday have been stuck at 17-17. That's pretty cool.
That's pretty wild. You called that out during the game.
There were three. Yeah, yeah.
Now this is the fourth. And then Malik Willis has three completions to a tight end, two to running back, zero to a wide receiver.
He's doing an homage to Alex Smith Chiefs on his field. Yeah.
That was incredible. He went, like, what was it, like 19 weeks without throwing a touchdown pass? It was insane.
To a wide receiver. An insane streak.
Okay, so let's do the last two games, then we will talk about this game. I think it's going to go to overtime.
Yeah, it feels like overtime. Seahawks 31, Cardinals 21.
I know that everyone's going to make this. The Cardinals just suck, but the Seahawks are a good team.
They are a good team. Yeah, like there's no fluke.
Pete Carroll should be absolutely in consideration for Coach of the Year because they traded away their franchise quarterback. Everyone picked him to be one of the worst teams in the NFL.
They're now 6-3, just swept the Cardinals, and it basically was Pete Carroll showing Cliff Kingsbury how to coach because Pete Carroll came in this year and was supposed to be a rebuilding year, and he's made this team very, very good, and they're playing great ball. And Cliff Kingsbury has a lot of guys, a lot of all-star roster type of guys and they suck they're really really bad the game could have turned at the end of the first half though when kyler murray scrambled for this little cute little adorable first down wait six five seconds left that's too much time for patrick too much time for patrick on their own 40 he could slay yeah too much time harrison bucker can can he's got a leg on him.
Yeah. He could sling it there.
Yeah, too much time for Patrick Mahomes. And Harrison Bucker can – he's got a leg on him.

Yeah.

He missed an extra point out of the goal.

Yeah, but that's – the Chiefs always do that.

The Chiefs always – they love to miss extra points.

Yes.

So, yeah.

So, Kyler Murray scrambles for a first down.

Probably we're going to get at least three points out of that at the end of the first half,

if not a touchdown.

And then I forget who it was on the Seahawks.

Somebody just, like, snuck up behind him and just kind of booped the ball out. It was cute and it was the cutest fumble ever it was a cute little scramble it was adorable and he booped it out the seahawks got it was like the seahawks they do they do all the tiny little things correctly right that's the cardinals don't and the cardinals don't like kyler murray yeah a huge extension which i have to imagine that most cardinals fans are like why why we're married to this guy.
Yeah, it's that, and it's also Steve Keim and Cliff Kingsbury getting contracts through 2027, which obviously they can just fire him, but Cardinals are just, they had 12 penalties. They're a poorly coached team.
You had Kyler Murray yelling at DeAndre Hopkins on the sideline now. I don't know how cliff kingsbury is still coaching this team they are 10 and 19 in home games under cliff kingsbury and they're 6 27 and 1 went down at half he's he's i mean we we've talked about this at length but he's always shown that he's a mediocre coach yeah and he's just showing that, again, this is not even mediocre.

This is bad.

Too much time for Patrick from home.

Three seconds.

Time out.

Three seconds left.

Are they going to go Bucker?

This would be –

This is insane.

Dude, he had five seconds left on the clock.

This would be a 78-yard field.

Why not, Jake?

Wait, is it?

Yeah.

They're on their own 40.

No.

I thought they were on the 50.

No, no, no.

They're going to throw Hail Mary.

Hail Mary, yeah.

Which is also going to be cool to watch. So here's what's going to happen.
Ready? PFT Nostradamus. Yep.
Hail Mary. Yep.
Refs throw flag for passer-fills. No.
They love Patrick Mahomes. He's getting every flag in this game.
Do you think they're going to throw Hail Mary? They're going to do a hook-and-ladder type play. That's what I think they're doing.
Here comes That's what I think they're doing. Rugby, run the rugby play.
That's why Kelsey dropped 35-30. Hardman cuts to his right and is tackled at the 26.
They're in field goal range now. No time on the clock.
They are. Overtime.
All right. You know what I think that play was? I think that was let's run this play.
And Meikle, stick your head as close to their hands as possible. Try to get a face mask one on time down.
Yeah, just put your hands in their face. Yeah, try real hard.
Try to swing your face mask onto their fingers. It's like a dog looking for a scratch under its chin.
Yeah. Yeah, just get it right in there.
Okay, so I keep saying it, but we will eventually get to this game once it goes final. The Seahawks, I just like the Seahawks.
I don't know why. Maybe it's because Russell Wilson is just not on the team anymore, but they look like they're fun.
Kenneth Walker is an absolute beast. Kenneth Walker has, in the last five games since he started being actually featured, has 512 yards and seven touchdowns yeah just he's the only running back that i actually that i like when they wear a single digit number yeah all the other ones i look at to a certain extent and i'm like that doesn't doesn't look natural and i just i i don't know why but i just i like that he goes by kenneth yeah kenneth is good get like ken walker i don't know if i would feel the same way about him it It could also switch to Kenny.
He could become a Kenny Walker. But he's Kenneth Walker III.
Yeah. It's a very official name.
It is. But he was awesome.
Gino, credit to Gino, because Gino threw a bad pick six and then came back and was very, very good after that. So it was a bounce back.
Yeah. Those are the moments that you're like, uh-oh, is this going to – because I think even though the Seahawks are for real and it's not a fluke, they're still in the back of your head like, oh, no, is this like when Geno starts to crumble? And he didn't.
He didn't crumble. He came back.
He played well. And the Seahawks, their defense is playing well.
They've held their last four opponents under 300 yards. I can't say enough nice things about the Seahawks.
I like the Seahawks. I don't want to say I'm rooting for the Seahawks, but I am kind of rooting for the Seahawks.
I am rooting for the Seahawks. If two teams get in for the NFC West, I would want it to be the 49ers and the Seahawks.
Yeah, because a home playoff game for the Seahawks would be awesome. They're a very likable team.
I don't think that there's any good reasons out there not to root for the Seahawks. What have the Seahawks ever done to anybody? Yeah, and it's crazy to think that this game that's coming up on Sunday in Germany, Seahawks-Bucks, before the season started, you would have just been like, you would have bet your life on the Bs being the better team.
Yeah. Whose line is it anyway? Yeah, what does the German spread mean? Who's got high field advantage? I think that might be a pick-em.
That's Gisele Town. I think it could be a pick-em.
I think it's going to be the Bucs minus three. Whose line is it anyway? Bucs minus one.
Oh, close to a pick-em. I have cleansed myself of the Bucs bets because I won today.
So I'm done. I'm going to take the Seahawks.
I think I'm going to bet the Seahawks every week. They were underdogs in this game.
The Cardinals are bad. They're just a bad football team.
Everything about them is bad. Kyler's stats kind of look good.
It's you it's the eyeball test if you watch the cardinals they will have like a drive that looks good and then they'll have five three and outs in a row yeah you know how we had the giants and the the seahawks last week it was like these are two teams that nobody thought would be good um that's kind of what we're going to look at towards the end of the season when they play the jets that. That's going to be really weird when both these teams are like nine wins going at each other.
I'm not going to know what to think with those uniforms being good. That's a good point.
That game will be heavy playoff implications. Only other stat I had was Seahawks have forced 16 fumbles this year.
That's a lot. I think the record's 30, so they're halfway that's that's a shitload of fumbles they're forcing they play the colts they did not play that would be a good way to boost that would have been nice if they have they yeah if you actually look into the deep numbers it's like they have nine fumbles against the colts who is helping the seahawks draft right now because whoever it is is doing a great job yeah fantastic job they just find so it's uh woolen tarik woolen yeah i just looked it up the cornerback he's he is i think he's got four interceptions and he's been like no one's throwing to him daniel jones last week just didn't throw to him the entire game winner team's gonna stop throwing at sauce and then we have to do like an evaluation of is he not putting up stats because he just doesn't get thrown at right're not saying that's name enough.
That's too deep of a conversation for most people that vote on these awards to actually end up having. And then, but no, but then that can be rectified by one simple graphic lost in the sauce.
And it just shows a passes attempted towards sauce. It's actually gravy when he was in New Jersey.
Yes. Yes.
Sunday gravy. And it's, yeah, it, it will just say like one pass a game at thrown his way.
Yes. And that's a new way of saying how incredible he is.
Or if one of these guys just calls it their island. Like, if it's Tariq Island.
Sauce Island. Sauce Island? That's, I don't know if that works.
Yeah, that might not work. Okay, let's do our last game.
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The Bucs are back. Or alternate, why the fuck did the Rams play prevent defense at the end of that game? It was so weird because Aaron Donald was just eating Tom Brady for lunch the entire game.
They were dominating him. And the Rams' defense was just – they couldn't do anything offensively, nothing offensively.
And then at the end of the game, Tom Brady just finds guys in the middle of these holes and gets like two completions of 20 yards. And next thing you know, they're going at the end zone.
And it wasn't even – yeah, it was like they were leaving the sideline open too, which made no sense because they didn't have enough time. It was crazy.
The Bucs, and this was one of those, I think I've told this before, but our friend of the program, our current guest, Bill Burr, probably like three times a year he'll text me or call me just to bitch about football. And we've asked him on this show why.
And he's like, well, I just know you're watching the games. I don't have like a lot of friends i know are watching the games he started texting me like motherfucking prevent defense yeah which was so funny out of nowhere i haven't talked to him in eight months and he was just like this fucking prevent defense is bullshit i was like yeah you know what you're right it doesn't work though in the right the bucks had five three and outs two turnovers on downs oh and 0-2 in the red zone, three field goals.

They couldn't do anything.

They couldn't score with a million plays.

And then at the end of the game, they're like, yeah,

let's play soft coverage on all these wide receivers

and let them march down the field.

Tom Brady, 44 seconds.

It's his 55th game-winning drive, which passes Peyton Manning all time,

which is stupid to just say he has three and a half seasons worth of game-winning drives.

It's just a ridiculous thing.

Yeah, it is dumb, and this is a dumb win, and I'm not counting this as a win even for the Bucs.

That's fair.

I think that this is really—

No, they're a bad team.

They lost this game.

Yeah, no, they're a bad team.

They figured out many ways to lose this game.

The Rams, they're just fucking idiots. The Rams are just fucking morons.
Sean McVay has become a fucking idiot, and he's probably going to leave his team at the end of the year. As Hank so eloquently put it, bad sports coach.
He's going to leave his team in cap hell. They're not going to have any draft picks.
Fuck them picks. Sean McVay blew this, absolutely blew this for his team at the end of this game.
Tom Brady walked into his post-game press conference acting like the weight of the world was off his shoulders because he managed to squeak out a shitty win at the end of a shitty game. Against a shitty team.
Against a shitty team with shitty players on his own team. Yeah.
And I'm not counting it as a win. It it's also every single bucks game looks exactly the same where it's like oh we just see mike evans oh my god what a catch by the chiefs we see mike evans and tom brady just never on the same page we just see like third downs where where passes are just like you know skipping in front of receivers they can't score in the red zone.
They can't do anything offensively. They're just a shitty team, and it's tough to watch.
It's tough to watch them, but they did win, so I'll count it as a half a win. If they had won with a full steam ahead Mike Evans, I would count it as a full win, but Mike Evans, I think he's got a shoulder injury.
It just looks bad. It looks bad.
It's sad to watch. I think we finally reached a point, though, with both the Bay teams where we can look at them and say these teams are bad.
They're bad. Actual bad teams.
They're the polar opposite of the Jets and the Seahawks right now, which is we need to finally reach a point where we say that they are good teams right we need to accept the fact they're bad they're probably not going to do anything big this season no and yeah i mean the bucks can obviously the the packers are in different spots are four and a half games out of the out of first place the bucks are in first place at four and five how weird would that be if they made the the bucks make the playoffs at like eight nine eight nine yeah and then they a little run. It would be pretty fun.
Tom Brady gets some of that. And then they get to the Super Bowl.
Tom Brady walks away from football at halftime to go be with his family. Oh, wow.
They get back together. That's special.
And then Kyle Trask takes him to a new king as anointed. Yes.
Kyle Trask wins the Super Bowl. Or is the Blaine train? It could be both.
Yeah, Blaine Gabbert we can go wildcat with trash yeah and have Blaine lined up at receiver the Blaine train winning a Super Bowl would be incredible it'd be awesome oh my god that would be incredible but um uh oh I wanted to mention the Rams are so sad and these reports that are coming out about Les Snead like begging to trade away his draft picks it's almost like the entire league has realized he has a problem like he's a drug addict calling he's like i'll give you two first rounders for for brian burns like i'll give you i'll give you four picks for christian mccaffrey and everyone's turning them down because they're like dude you got you got a problem like you you're gonna need to keep these draft picks eventually and and they're essentially just not doing any of these trades, which on paper, why didn't the Panthers do that trade? I think they actually just feel bad for him. And at this point, I think they also wanted to trade a first-rounder for DJ Moore.
He's trying to trade every pick just to salvage this season, which they should just look at it and be like, hey, we're not that good. Yeah.
Where our offensive line is in shambles. And other than Cooper Cup, like the the like five or six plays that Cooper Cup makes every game.
They're just not a good team and not a fun team to watch. The big story coming into this game was that Sean McVay had finally made his piece with Cam Akers.
Oh. And so he humbled himself, said all the right things.

Sean McVay or Cam Akers?

Cam Akers.

And Cam was going to get a heavier workload in this game.

He had five carries for three yards.

Nice.

That's a Cam Akers stat line right there.

With a long of two.

Wow.

He almost broke that one.

So he almost broke it.

You got to keep feeding Cam.

I think, honestly, I think I could get five carries for three yards. Yeah, I do too.
I think I could. I do too.
I think that's exactly what my shot line is. Maybe not with the Rams offensive line.
Well, should I be playing against the Tampa Bay defense? The Tampa Bay would just sit on you once, and you'd be like, okay, so all right, let's talk about this game right now that's going on. The Chiefs are some – why are they going on fourth and one? Kick a field goal.
It's overtime. Oh, because I guess then the Titans could then kick a field goal? So the Chiefs just convert fourth and one.
Fourth and one. They're insane for doing that.
They are, but with the rules, I guess they were like, hey, we don't trust our defense. Let's talk about—oh, last thing about the Bucs-Rams.
I just want to say, if they don't get that, we would kill Andy Reid. Yes, we would.
Bobby Wagner did the Bobby Wagner thing where he jumped over the center. That was awesome.
Oh, yeah. That is the Bobby Wagner play.
He's done it multiple times. Well, they changed the rules to make it impossible to do.
Right, and he still does it. It's like the anti-Bobby Wagner rule where you have to be totally still.
You can't get a running start to do it. You have to go up in the air and come down without touching anybody.
Touching anyone. In the first place.
It's just about impossible. It's like him and Tyreek Hill could probably do a backflip over the line and do it.
But that's about it. All right, so Chiefs-Titans.
This game, right now there's four minutes left in overtime, and the Chiefs have second down like 10 on the 15 yard line this game has been awesome the Titans have been all over the Chiefs like they have been in the backfield all night they've been the only plays that the Chiefs have been able to make is Patrick Mahomes scrambles he on the touchdown drive he was just scrambling left and right he scrambled for a touchdown which was an. He scrambled for the two-point conversion.
I'm impressed by the Titans. I think sometimes teams just match up well against other teams.
The Titans tend to do that with the Chiefs. A.G.
Brown just tweeted out, nobody's getting open a second ago. So he's actively roasting the Titans receiving core online right now.
Also, people will say that Patrick Mahomes gets a lot of calls.

He does.

Patrick Mahomes does get a lot of calls because you know why? He's Patrick Mahomes, and he's so good that anytime something doesn't happen in his favor,

referees in the back of their heads are like, well, it's Patrick Mahomes.

It's Patrick Mahomes.

Just did that.

Something probably went wrong illegally.

Yes.

And the Titans also, you can tell how jacked up they are for this game they showed that highlight of a big uh tackle on a kickoff and the entire team came out to meet the guy who tackled them they're like there's something that vrabel has done to get this team pumped up for this game to a different level they're playing with such a like crazy edge in this game what's vrabel doing before games now? You know how over the last couple years he would do the stairs, run up and down the stadium. He would plank on the sidelines before games.
Is he actually getting into fights with guys? It feels like it. The old Henderson clip, slapping dudes in the face, getting them ready? Because yes, they've been...
I almost feel like the Titans like going up against teams like this where they say they get too cute with it.

We can just punch them in the mouth and they won't punch back.

Yeah, let's just fuck them up and let's just be more manly than that.

If this was a fight, the Titans would beat the fuck out of the Chiefs.

Yes, yes.

That's an absolute fact.

All right, so the Chiefs are now trying to kick a field goal,

which means the Titans will also have the ball,

which is this game is never going to end, which I'm fine with.

It's been a fun watch. It's been a fun watch.
Tractor Cito, does he get stronger as the game goes into overtime? Yeah, Malik Willis, they're going to probably be in a position where they're going to have to pass at some point. Right? Maybe.
Maybe. What are you going to say, Billy? The over is almost in play.
46. Nope.
Because if then the Titans kick a field goal. Oh.
And the Chiefs get a push. We have 46 and a half in our.
We both have 46 and a half. Okay, so it's out.
But it's almost in play. Billy's right.
It was. Oh, push was almost in play if it was 46.
They don't kick the extra point. They don't kick the extra point.
Yeah. Fuck.
Yeah. They should kick the extra point.
Yeah. They should always kick the extra point.
Remember how sad some of those extra points would be when teams would be in the tunnel, in the locker room, and they'd have to come out to play defense on the extra point? Yes. Those are the best.
All right, let's do Football Guy of the Week real quick. And then, again, this game is just never going to end.
I feel like I've said it a million times. But I would like to talk about the ending, although Mahomes, his running has just been insane tonight.

Billy, Football Guys of the Week.

Shout out Lane Kiffin for winning

last week's

Go ahead, sorry.

For yelling at the player

No, I was going to say

I have one that if you miss, I'm going to be upset.

Okay. No pressure.

A little bit of pressure.

A little bit of pressure.

But I have one that if you miss, you're not doing your job.

Uh-oh.

Is it Ken Dorsey?

Nope.

Okay, good.

Oh, what did Ken Dorsey do?

He just walked around the field like a psychopath before the game.

Nope.

That's not it.

Probably not a psychopath.

I think he'll never recover from that.

I think you have it.

I think you have it. Okay.
It's not a high school football player. Well, there is one this week.
So there we go. You got three chances.
Mike Leach. Yes, there it is.
Okay. I saw it last night, and I was like, holy shit, this is so funny.
Billy better have this. Mike Leach, a couple weeks ago, was complaining about his wide receivers not catching balls, said that they were like T-Rexes with tiny arms because they're not using their hands to catch.
They're going to evolve into creatures that don't use arms like T-Rex. So because of that, he took away their seats on the sidelines.
Did you see this clip? I did see it. So I'm curious why taking away seats would make their arms grow longer.
I don't know, but it was such a football guy move because he walked over to the chairs and just folded them up and threw them down one by one. It was like, fuck this.
You guys don't get to sit anymore. You got to earn the right to sit on my team.
It was so great. It's great because it was him doing it.
He's so old. And he didn't have an assistant coach do it.
He's like, no, I'm going to take these seats away, personally. Good pick.
Our second nominee is a kid at the UNC-Virginia game who was just doing – I guess in Virginia there's a whole hill where you can watch the games from, and the hill had gotten wet, and he was just doing mudslides shirtless. The entire game? The entire game.

That's cool.

That guy, I understand why you want to talk about him.

We should make a separate category for the football bro of the week.

That is football bro.

It was a kid.

Oh, it was a kid.

Oh, it was a little kid.

Okay.

In fan art, painted up.

Okay.

He was just sliding down the hill.

All right.

That's cool.

Yeah.

Good for him.

We've got to include the fans.

The youngsters.

Yeah. This is the most football guy the fans.
The youngsters. Yeah.

This is the most football guy, football guy I've heard in a long time.

Here we go.

So in Sandusky, Ohio.

Okay.

A disavow.

Remember when we went there?

A disavow.

Yeah.

And we bowled?

Yeah.

And we went to that indoor water park that was quite something.

Yeah.

That clip, the famous clip of my legs coming out of the water slide with the scream. Yeah, that was a good night.
So two teams were playing Huron in cold water, and Huron was up by three going to the half, and a senior quarterback who had broken his legs two weeks prior said, Coach, I don't care that's broken he had just gotten screws into it went into the game brought the team back to win 14-3 on a broken leg so marcel blasting game damn incredible that's also a football idiot of the week but yes that's that's football listen the good lord gave you two legs for a reason. He was a senior.
He wasn't going to play anymore. His doctor cleared him but didn't think the coach would actually put him back in.
He thought he was just going to suit up. But then the coach actually put him in, and they won.
So his doctor cleared him to wear a football uniform. Yeah, so he could be on the sideline.
Yeah. Just so one of his last games.
But then he ended up in the game. Byron Lefkowitz.
That's pretty awesome. Yeah, that is pretty awesome.
And your last football guy of the week nominee is Ben Chase. Ben Chase has attended 39 college football games this season.
He's been traveling across America attending college football games in the Bowling Green game this weekend. There's a little spotlight down on him.
He's just a big football guy. Likes to watch football games.
That's awesome. Yeah that's awesome yeah very cool 39 39 he's been rolling around in a minivan he's put 50 000 miles on the minivan already it was uh i guess the speedometer was started new this season he plans on going to 60 games by the end of the season i have a question is this a football guy because you could also just get like a ton of TVs and just watch all the games.
Yeah, but you want to see the atmosphere. Okay, all right.
The atmosphere. Because we watch every game.
This guy also, what must suck is, I'm going to guess he's probably been to, if he's been to 39 of them already, he's doing what, like three a week? Something like that? Yeah. Probably three football.
So he's not even going to get drunk at these football games. He's completely sober the entire time.
Those are some long-ass Saturdays to not even get drunk. Yeah.
If you're going to watch that much football and not have a beer in person at those stadiums, that's tough to do. That is tough to do.
The mileage is insane, too. Yeah.
I mean, there's some stretches where he went coast to coast, like out from Wyoming to California. I mean, all sorts of long trucking distance, but 50,000 miles.
So that'll be on the Twitter to vote on for your football guy, who you think should win. And that's your nominees for Week 10.
Yeah. Okay, so good nominees.
I love seeing at LSU when they stormed the field after the game. The one guy at the pylon.
Well, no. I was saying that there was like an old lady in a wheelchair that stormed the field.
That's awesome. She had like whoever was looking after her, pushing her slowly onto the field to help storm the field.
It was awesome. That is awesome.
That game absolutely ruled.

It did.

So, turns out Malik Willis did have to pass in overtime.

Didn't go well.

So, he got sacked.

Was that three straight sacks?

On that third down, I don't think he was going to pass.

He was back there for like 15 seconds.

He just, it did not go well.

So, the Chiefs win.

Ugly game.

They win.

Titans played their absolute balls off.

And the Chiefs find a way to win an ugly game because Patrick Holmes

I'm sorry. It did not go well.
So the Chiefs win. Ugly game.
They win. Titans played their absolute balls off.
And the Chiefs find a way to win an ugly game because Patrick Holmes is that special. Was that a fair summation of the game? I think that's a fair, also NFL rigged.
NFL rigged. Just to cover it for the Titans fans out there.
Yes. And A.J.
Brown, which Batman is he? Swole Batman? He would be the Swole Batman. He'd be the Swole Batman.
Ain't nobody open. Cry face, cry face, cry face, cry face.
Oh, damn. And then there's a GIF attached to it, which is it says me, and then there's a guy with a phone just laughing at his tweet.
Oh, shit. So, he's really enjoying that.
Also, the can't lose parlay cash for the second straight week. Not looking for credit, but people say that I suck.
That's two in a row. That's a winning streak.
Hank, it's a winning streak. Congratulations.
Thanks. And you're lossless in the picks competition this week.
Oh, okay. Lossless.
Cat is back. Cat might be back.
Okay, yeah. I noticed that was a very specific way of putting that.
Lossless. Lossless.
Without loss. Yeah, I was impressed by the Titans.
Their defense is pretty awesome. And turns out they kind of missed Ryan Tannehill.
They have no fourth quarter off. This was good for Ryan Tannehill because he's like, this team could actually be, you know, their defense kept them in this game.
Derrick Henry is a beast. But Malik Willis, young quarterback, when he has to pass, doesn't go so well.

Yeah, so Malik Willis, where are we on the grading Malik Willis scale right now?

Because he's, I don't think he was ready to start.

1-1 is the start. I don't think they wanted to start him.

2-0 against the spread.

That's pretty good.

I like that.

I think he's in the category of somewhat tricky to game plan against because you don't know how bad he truly is yeah right right if you you can probably leave all the wide receivers open but maybe once in a while you can't yeah so that that does that does add like an element of surprise um okay let's finish up with who's back of the week it is brought to you by our friends at visible rooting for different teams on the field comes with less drama than being on the same family wireless plan because family plans can mean family trauma with visible's one line wireless plan the data is unlimited and all yours so you can stream all the holiday games or movies you want from almost anywhere leave the family plan drama and get a one line wireless plan with visible visible it's just 30 a month taxes and fees included switch today at visible.com and get up to 250 gift card when you buy a select device who's back of the week henry we will talk college football on wednesday we're going long it was a crazy weekend uh we'll also tcu alligator blood and LSU, I lsu's all the fact that lsu can go to the go to the college football playoff is so insane rocks it it absolutely rocks and quick summation georgia just reminded everyone they're they're georgia and you're fucking not because they smushed tennessee smushed them that's that would be my recap of the game watched it georgia smushed him smush it my who's back the week i have a couple the first one is uh lebron lying for absolutely no reason whatsoever oh uh last week tragically take off from the migos he was a rapper he was shot in houston passed away uh everyone's been mourning him all week lebron today wore an outfit to the game that was an exact replica of an outfit that takeoff had worn before he posted a picture with like a side by side before the game and then after the game a reporter asked him about you know his post and about takeoff and he said i love migos i've been listening to them since i was in miami in 2010 it's sad yada yada yada uh the migos didn't start putting music out till 2011 oh and they weren't really popular to till 2013 like there there's really no way that he was actually listening to other stuff well yeah because you know i've seen pictures and videos of lebron in the studio with people listening to songs before they ever even come out oh good point a and r yeah&R. Yeah.
Yeah, he might have been in the studio with them.

A whole year before anything came out?

Maybe.

A mixtape?

Maybe.

I don't know why I'm defending LeBron.

I'm not.

He just got caught.

It's just a classic.

It's up there.

You know, the Malcolm X, the Godfather.

Just no reason to lie whatsoever.

No reason.

He didn't have to do anything, and they just asked him about it,

and he's like, yeah, I've been listening to them since 2010 you could have just said i'm a fan of them yeah that's a that's a fact i would like to say i i'm a fan of them too yeah me too i've been listening to them since 2008 two two 16 raindrop drop drop um my who's back is Twitter. Elon Musk.
Two who's backs. Okay.
Yeah, I said that. I was just double-checking.
I was just double-checking. I said I have a couple who's back.
Who says twice as many as balls you've called correctly in the lottery machine? My other who's back. Have you ever gotten it? I have not.
I guess that's infinity times. I'm pre-con 17 just because I'm just going to say it.
No, you can't. All right,'t.
No, that's illegal. That's off sides.
That's illegal. If we're doing this for Billy, that is illegal.
I was going to tell you. All right.
False start. But I don't get penalized because Hank jumped off sides, so I just took a shot.
That's what I just did there. My other who's back is Twitter.
Elon Musk bought Twitter. It seems like it's going to be a complete disaster.
He's suggesting changes. He says he's going to charge everyone $8 for verification.
If you don't pay for verification, then he's going to shadow ban people's tweets, which he's basically like forcing people to get verified. I'll never do it.
Isn't this the whole thing that everyone's like, I'm on shadow ban now because Elon bought Twitter? Yeah. Nobody knows how much shadow banning was going on.
I don't know. And now he's just shadow banning everyone.
I fired a bunch of people and then they realized that they needed some of those people. So they basically had to email them back and being like, hey, I know we let you go earlier.
Do you think actually you can come back? Yeah. The only way that you can run a company like Twitter is if you don't care what everybody says about you.
Unfortunately, Elon Musk cares very deeply what most people say about him. And he's getting feedback all the time from people online calling him an asshole.
So if you run Twitter, basically you're in the worst position ever because people will use your product to insult you and tell you what they think your product should be and then if you piss any of them off then they'll yell at you more like elon musk just bought basically bought a hornet's nest and he keeps he has to stick his finger inside that hornet's nest for his job right so it's it's a tough situation for him but it's also like i do feel like we might be watching i don't know twitter's going to change a, I think, over the next couple months. Yeah.
Notes apps on the hot seat. Do you guys see that? I did see that.
Yeah. Elon's adding the ability to do long form tweets.
So. Oh, that sucks.
Ending absurdity of notepad screenshots. Yeah.
It's bad. Oh, that sucks.
It's bad. And also Twitter.
I don't want to read all that shit. Yeah.
Or sorry that happened for you. I'm happy for you, Elon.
But did they have Medium? Medium was exactly the same feature. 280, right? No, Medium was like a blog that was owned by Twitter.
You guys remember when it was just 140? Twit longer. Oh, this sucks, dude.
The whole point of being on Twitter is you don't have to read. It seems like he's going to fuck it up pretty good.
I'm kind of excited to see how it unfolds. A lot of the stuff, it's like there's no way this happens, and then you realize he bought Twitter for $40 billion, and he can do whatever he wants for better or for worse, and more than likely for worse.
You're kind of rooting for this because you know it hurt us. I not rooting yeah you are but you know what twitter

actually is only a wild twitter is it is it's a correct take i was thinking about it because you're like oh you guys are obsessed with twitter i wish you'd get into the other apps twitter is the sports app it is a sport it's the it's the place you talk about sports live the thing is like you can't have a conversation on any of the other apps like in the moment live just like talking about a game so that's why because i it did hit me and i was like why why am i more into twitter that it's the sports app it's the sports unfortunately it's also the politics app which i hate but it's the sports app so stop rooting against us i mean i don't care yeah i root for chaos i root for chaos always hank is rooting for us our followers. You know what? That's not true.
I'm going to sign up right now for a truth account, and then I'll show you. I'll have more re-truths and truths than anyone.
Also, Elon, I know he's an AWL, so I don't... Stop listening right now for a second, Elon.
He can charge me anything I'll pay. Okay, Elon, you're back.
You'll pay for the blue check? Yeah, dude. It's where we talk about sports.
Yeah, but I mean, if it's a blue check, that's what you're paying for. I think you can still stay on the app and not pay.
But what about shadow bans? I don't know. I think that's your shadow banning.
Anyone can be shadow banned at any given time. I don't want to get shadow banned.
I'm going to pivot, I think, to TikTok. I gonna be i'm gonna just write blogs and then using my phone just scroll down my blogs on tiktok it'll just be words nice we're gonna say billy for a hundred bucks for something we use almost every day correct an hour correct i mean photoshop is that's why i said i was gonna i would pay anything but don't don't hold me to that el Elon.
But the crazy thing is, Elon could also just, if he wanted to, he could destroy it. Which I would honestly, I would respect if he bought something for $44 billion just to destroy it.
Just to troll everyone. That'd be maybe the best troll in the history of mankind.
Yeah. That would suck, though.
Just nuke it. Hank's rooting for it uh pfc uh my who's back

who's back i caught you i caught you my who's back i root for chaos what do you hank at our okay hank you know you had your big company off-site meeting that's tuesday what what platform would you like us to switch over to tiktok no i don't give a fuck yeah yeah sounds like if i had pick tick tock YouTube now Elon also said Instagram he was going to pay real

readers No, I don't give a fuck. Yeah.
Yeah, sounds like it. If I had to pick TikTok, YouTube.

Now, Elon also said that he was going to pay content creators more than YouTube paid content creators. So how about that? That was a joke.
It would also be chaos if you... No, yeah, he said he's also bringing monetization for content creators.
So that, I mean, I have a good amount of followers. That'd be nice.
If Elon just straight up paid people based on how many retweets they had, you would see some weird shit going on online. Definitely.
I would just keep doing the hack whenever there's an animal on the field and I just screen grab it and I say, if you don't retweet this, it's bad gambling law. And it gets instant 8,000 retweets.
I would just instantly pretend that I'm a hot chick and be like, for every retweet,

I'll take one piece of clothing off.

Nice.

I just think it's objectively funny

watching something that you're...

Yeah, our lives.

You're viewing.

No, you're viewing from Elon.

You're like, this makes no sense.

This is a dumb idea.

There's no way this is going to get pushed through.

And it's like, well...

You said all that.

He can...

Yeah, Will, he can do whatever he wants.

He owns Twitter.

Yeah, he does.

He can do whatever he wants. It is.
PFT, pft your who's my who's back the week is coins coins are back and uh i'm surprised billy didn't bring this up when he was talking about the jets because the mvp of the jet season is actually a coin well yeah it's a coin yeah why didn't you tell us i? I blogged it and TikToked it. Check it out now.

Check out Billy's TikTok on the coin.

I'm doing a podcast right now.

My Who's Back of the Week is the coin.

PFT, what's the coin?

Oh, good question, Big Cat.

Thank you.

You don't want to jinx it.

You're just keeping us away from winners.

We're about to bet on the Bears and the Steelers

just because for some weird fucking reason,

after you play the Panthers, you lose. And you're not going to tell us the coin bet yeah so here's a big cat I'm glad that that you brought that up because we do need to pay attention to the coin at Nooner Nation did a coin flick at the start of the season to predict every single Jets game possible he had them going 11-6 they laughed at him Big Cat wow they laughed Wow.
They laughed at him. Week 1 versus Baltimore called the loss.
Cleveland, win. Versus Cincinnati, week 3, loss.
Week 4, at Pittsburgh, win. Versus Miami, win.
At Green Bay, win. At Denver, win.
This is Francesa. Versus New England, loss.
Versus Buffalo, win. Buy.
At New England, loss. Versus Chicago, loss.
And it goes on. It goes on.
But the gist of it is this coin is perfect. This coin has not lost a single prediction up to week nine.
You know what's going to happen, though? Remember last year when I went on Redline Radio and I did win-loss for every Bears game and I made it to week 13 being correct. And Chuck, who works here, pointed it out in week 12, and then it just lost.
The fact that it's getting this publicity, it's an immediate loss. No, but it started to get publicity already a couple weeks ago.
I've been hearing about it for a little bit. But I'm saying now that it's reaching, if it reaches enough eyeballs, it will crumble.

That's just how it works. After they beat the Packers a couple weeks ago, that's when the coin got brought to my attention.
And since then... Billy's been holding it out? Yeah, I think Billy has been holding it out.
They beat the Broncos, they lost to the Patriots, and they beat the Bills since then, all correctly predicted by the coin. Now, the coin has them winning the wild card, winning in the divisional round, and losing in the AFC championship game.
You'd take that, Billy. I would take that.
Oh, wow. Guess you don't have Super Bowl aspirations.
Do you think this coin, like Zach Wilson? Take it back. I'll give you five seconds to take it back.
Well, the thing is, what's great about you bringing it up, and if we jinx it, meaning next week it'll be wrong. Yeah, you'd win.
And we beat the Patriots. Yeah, you're right.
So you're in a good spot. And that'd be pretty awesome.
The thing is, we're doing some investigations. Shout out Jack Mack.
We think that this Twitter account may have posted several outcomes. Oh.
Jack Mack will find out. He's the best investigative journalist I know.
Right. So we've been looking at that.
I blogged it, TikToked it, wasn't going to put a hard commit to it, but he may have posted several results and just brought it up when it was like 5-0. But we'll see what's happening.
Now, why do you think that, Billy? Because if you look at that account, we're figuring it out. Yeah, let him do it.

I'm looking at that account during Club 999.

Don't tamper with evidence.

I think I like that.

Let the investigation play out.

I like to cut out this guy's jib, though.

But let the investigation fall.

He's got to find out.

If he's doing the coin thing,

there's been several other stuff like this created before. I like the coin thing.
The coin hasn't been wrong yet. Do you know how many different things he'd have to write down, though, if he was doing different combinations? No, he's saying that he didn't reveal it to like week five, so it was already right halfway through.
No, I get that. He tweeted in August.
It was at right time. Okay, well, let us know how it goes.
Yeah, we're figuring it out. I am mad that you didn't tell us.
And NYJ Mike correctly points out, the coin flip even predicted the bye week. Wow.
This coin is fucking legit. Yeah.
Very legit. What did it say on the bye week? No, just had the bye week correctly scheduled.
Yeah, bye week. And no win or loss.
Yeah. Do they win the bye week? No, they didn't.
It's just the bye week. Yeah.
Smart coin. All right.
My who's back is the... Oh, my God.
Look at him. He just went...
For people who are watching on YouTube, go subscribe to the YouTube. Max, I just said, my who's back.
And Max went like this. My who's back is the Houston Astros, who won the World Series on Saturday night.
Oh, I thought you were going to say the Los Angeles Galaxy. No, no, no.
Congratulations to the Houston Astros. Incredible run.
That team. You mean LAFC? Yeah.
LAFC won. Post it out the Galaxy anymore? It's a different soccer team.
Yeah, LAFC, they won the MLS Cup. Yeah, so the Houston Astros.
Who did they beat? Well, let me talk about it real quick. So the Houston Astros, incredible.
I want to give the Astros their credit because they were an insane team. Also, shout out all the fucking crybabies who were like, it's so unfair the Dodgers got kicked out.
The Astros were the second best team all year behind the Dodgers, and they won the World Series. So it turns out MLB playoffs probably isn't needed like a full overhaul.
The Astros were incredible. They obviously had the no-hitter on Wednesday night after the Asterix.
After the how many hits did they get? The Phillies that night. Combined no-hitter.
Well how many hits did they get? Combined no-hitter. But I just said they got a hitter.
And I said there's an Astros. But I said they got a no hitter, not any specific person.
The Astros got a no hitter. Is there an Astros? Yes.
Oh, there's an Astros. Did the Phillies get a hit? No.
Okay. All right.
So the Astros got a no-hitter, and it was incredible. Incredible run by the Astros.
That team is absolutely nails. Felt like every time they were even pushed a little bit, they got dongs all over them on Tuesday night, and they're like, fuck that.
We're throwing a no-hitter. Game five, the Phillies had the tying run on third base in the eighth inning.
It was tough. One out, top of the order coming up.
It was tough. I want to find the stat because the Astros closer, Ryan Presley, maybe the most ridiculous postseason ever.
He had 11 innings pitched, four hits, zero earned runs, 13 Ks. 13 Ks, zero earned runs, and 11 innings pitched.
All like high leverage, high intensity moments. The Astros are really good.
Dusty Baker, happy for him. You saw the outpouring of love for him.
Really, really, really good team. Did you see the wild stat, by the way, with Dusty Baker? Yes.
His first game as a player, the opposing team was Jeremy Pena's dad. Yes.
That is wild. Dusty Baker's managerial debut was April 6, 1993 versus the Cardinals.
The St. Louis leadoff hitter was Geronimo Pena.
That is Jeremy Pena's dad. Pretty wild.
That's wild. Also, I think this was from our guy, the Ace of Spader, Ryan Spader.

Yeah.

I think he tweeted out that of all the Major League Baseball games ever played,

Dusty Baker has either played in or managed in 3% of them.

Jesus.

Every game ever.

That's insane.

That's a baseball lifer.

Yeah, it was a nice moment.

It was great.

It was awesome to see Dusty.

I think everybody roots for Dusty.

Also the first team to win the World Series at home since, I think,

Thank you. baseball lifer and he yeah it was a nice moment it was great it was awesome to see dusty i think everybody roots for dusty it also the first team to to win the world series at home since i think 2013 so it was pretty crazy the scene in houston that your that home run was oh my god all time postseason home run he just mashes things yeah when schwerber hit that home run it was like we were we were watching it in lexington andeland, and we were like, damn, game seven, Sunday night.
This is going to be crazy. And then Jordan, like 10 minutes later, hit one on the fucking moon.
What a beast. So you're probably saying, well, who do they play? They played the Philadelphia Phillies.
Sad. Sad.
You know what I'm really upset about? Talking about the fightings. I'm really upset about the fact that we have to put to bed the narrative of Verlander not having any World Series wins.
That sucks that he got his first win. It was such a good narrative that we kept rolling with, and I was excited for that on his Hall of Fame inauguration day for people to be like, yeah, never won a world series but he was really good on thursday night he was awesome on thursday in in where's that game um i was at the bank it's in philly is that what we call it the bank uh yes hey i just max this is your welcome to pmt where it's like guess what it's fun when you're you're winning, but people want to hear you lose.
I looked it up, Hank, because that was an interesting question that you asked earlier. Learned that.
It was LAFC. It looks like they actually tied for the MLS Cup.
They tied with Philadelphia. Oh.
So it was a tie. It was a 3-3 tie.
But there was shootout. Oh, yeah.
3-0 on penalties. So LAFC did win the MLS Cup on penalty kicks.
What day was this? That was actually also yesterday. And then this thing just popped up at the bottom of the screen here.
It says that Philadelphia is the first city to ever lose two Major League Sports Championships in the same day. Oh, my God.
Wow. Spin zone.
They had a guy. Okay, no.
No. No.
No. Can you continue? Spin zone.
No, I like this. this I like this I want someone on my team here no no this is great this is actually perfect Max we're soaking in Max's tears here comes Jake to try to make everything all better but it's actually gonna make it so much worse spin zone it spin zone it they had a guy eat a full rotisserie chicken for 40 straight days it went viral and hundreds and hundreds of people showed up in Philadelphia to watch him eat it.
That's the spin zone? I do love the rotisserie chicken guy. He is very funny.
I've seen that. The crowd that showed up for that was, I mean, just not.
Every day at noon, he was just like, I'm eating a full rotisserie chicken. That's the guy who rocks.
Love that guy. Fun stat about the LAFC games.
I know we're big soccer guys. Philly actually scored in stoppage time, which I'm not a huge soccer guy, but I feel like there's not a ton of stoppage time.
If you score in extra time, that's got to be like the game's pretty much over. Wait, it was extra stoppage time.
It was extra time and stoppage time. It was stoppage time at the end of extra time.
So, like, I mean, what is that? 20 seconds? Wait, it was added time at the end of extra time. And then LAFC actually scored to tie the game in the 128th minute, which is the latest goal in MLS history.
So basically the biggest collapse in the history of soccer is how I kind of read that. When was the first year? Like 96, 97? I mean, that's a pretty decent.
Yeah. That's a long time.
There were nine minutes of extra time, actually. Why are we talking about soccer? Why are we talking about soccer? Let's talk about the Phillies.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The first Philadelphia in general is the first city to ever lose two major champions in one day.
But, Hank, you said you were holding back, saving for the show. So do you have any questions for max i mean just how does it feel like as you know you're a philly guy through and through diehard union fan uh last last night was tough um i'm happy we're talking about this today and not yesterday um yeah you are lucky that it wasn't a game seven and we would like could have just soaked your tears immediately after.
Were there tears? There were no tears. There were no tears, but I was on the stream.
For anyone who doesn't know, I was on the stream. It was me, Smitty, and Houston Astros diehard fan, Tico Texas.
Oh, that sounded like there was some sarcasm in that. Those are the words that came out of my mouth.
Okay, all right. You didn't call Smitty a diehard fanico a die hard fan well I thought maybe Smitty's been here for a long time people know that Smitty's a die hard fan Tico's new to the company I wanted to give her a while yeah yeah but she's new full time employee newer full time employee couple years couple yeah and she's very animated yeah very very she's a die hard she's passionate she's very animated.
Yeah. Very, very.
She's a diehard. She's passionate.
She's very animated, very passionate. People would say you're pretty animated and passionate.
That I am. That I am.
That I am. You're a real diehard Phillies fan.
So, I mean, you had to have known it was over after Thursday, right? Absolutely not. Oh, that makes it even worse.
I mean. Talk about the eighth inning of Thursday.
PFT, did you think that the— Why are you asking me this? Because the last time the Astros— It wasn't the last time they were in the World Series, but the Nationals were down. Yeah.
We're down 3-2. Yeah, that Nationals were down 3-1.
The Cubs were also down. I thought it was over.
Against the Astros? That team was different. Well, I thought this team was different.
I thought this team was different. I tell you what, we would never have let Verlander get a win off us.
You did think this team was different. I am sad for the city of Philadelphia.
It was such a fun ride. I loved being in there with these guys day in and day out.

Swarbs.

And the saddest thing about it is that they're not a young team.

Oh, no.

How not young are they?

I don't know.

I don't know the numbers of it.

But it was a team that was overachieving. And the nucleus of the team are older guys on multiple – not multiple, whatever.
Second or third contracts that aren't like these young and up-and-comers. So I don't know when we're going to be back there.
And that's just tough to see. It's one thing when you're winning with a bunch of your own prospects, and it's just like, we're going to be back, we're going to be back.
It's like, I don't know when we're going to be back,

and it's just sad to see this group of guys lose.

Tell me how you feel about this stat, Max.

The Red Sox have been to the World Series four times since 2004.

They've lost three games total.

The Phillies were in the World Series just this one past year. They lost four games total.
Thoughts. Wait, since what year? Wait, what? 2004, the Red Sox.
No, the Phillies were in the World Series in what, 2008? Well, no, I'm saying even if you just use this one year as an example. Okay.
But you're not using your one year. I don't know what you're asking me here.
The Red Sox have won four World Series and lost three games. The Phillies lost four games in one World Series.
When are we talking about the Red Sox? The Cubs have lost a total of three World Series games in the last 50 years plus, 60 years, 70 years maybe even, 1945. The Phillies have lost four World Series games in the last week.
Yeah. You know what's crazy is it wasn't fun.
The Nationals have never lost a World Series game six. That's crazy.
Do you think dancing on my – will you carry that on to next year or is that just kind of like yeah put that question hank good question hank um it's definitely not a regular season song maybe oh man you're struggling i'm i'm struggling yes yes the answer the answer that people are looking for is yes i am am struggling. I was very, very sad last night.
And it was one of those things. I let my hair down.
You looked like mankind. I just went for a walk through the city after.
The game ended. I sat there.
I took it in a little bit. I took in the Tico celebration with the confetti and the bottles popping and that was tough and then makes you hungry for next year i've had to experience that yeah and obviously the easy answer is eagles are eight no blah blah blah but i'm not gonna do that i'm not gonna do the easy answer is the eagles are eight no well no no let's not just do a no james harden's playing like an m.
I'm not going to do the easy answer that the Eagles are 8-0.

What about...

He got hurt, Big Ass.

He did?

Wait, James Harden got hurt?

I think he did.

I'm not going to do the easy answer that the Eagles are 8-0.

But wait, James Harden has a good track record of bouncing back from injury, right?

Right.

He's going to rehab.

James Harden was playing at an MVP level.

Right.

For a week?

He was.

A couple weeks. James Harden's going to play in like 10en was playing at an MVP level.
Right. For a week? He was.
A couple weeks.

James Harden's going to play in like 10 games for the rest of the season.

That's not true.

He'll be back by Christmas when the NBA starts.

Oh, yeah.

He's going to.

Over the Thanksgiving break, James Harden is going to remain committed to his getting

in shape and staying in shape.

James Harden's coming back at 300 pounds.

No, this is a new guy. James Harden's going to be pictured in Santa Claus outfits.
All right, well, I mean. Loves the kids.
I do feel bad. I was rooting for the Phillies.
I was rooting for the Phillies. I bet on the Phillies.
And yeah, it sucks, Max. Rotisserie chicken, though.
Rotisserie chicken guy does rock. Yeah, he does.
I love rotisserie chicken guy. I do love rotisserie chicken guy.
That's fact. Love that guy.
Props to rotisserie chicken guy. Yeah.
Billy did say, he was like, oh, I definitely ate 35 rotisserie chickens in a row when I was at camp. No, no.
In January 2021 in training. Just let someone else do something.
No, but I looked it up. You're LeBron.
I did 20 in the month of January. You looked it up? I looked it up.
Yeah, so it's impressive. That's half as many chickens.
I know, that's impressive. I'm just saying.
And you didn't have a crowd cheering you on. I know.
Just let them have it. Let rotisserie chicken guy have it.
You could not eat 40 rotisserie chickens in 40 days. I did 20 in 30.
I'm just saying. He couldn't do it.
No, without a doubt, he could not. No, definitely not.
Well, it's not the eat. It's just the consistency.
You couldn't do the eating or the consistency. I think he could do the eating, but he couldn't put it all together.
No, you couldn't do it. It's okay to know that you can't do it.
So you're admitting you you can't do it I was getting the full rotisseries for the fight I thought we were splitting fulls Yeah But a full one no way Not 40 of them No that's what I'm saying He did it and you never could He's You're a boy. I ate more rotisserie chickens than anybody in this room.

Oh, here it is.

Embrace the bait.

Embrace the bait.

And Justin Fields is going to get injured.

I was just posing questions.

I'm just asking questions.

Do you really think, given how much longer I've been on planet Earth than you have,

do you think you've eaten more rotisserie chickens than me?

Yeah, because you're like a vegan sometimes.

When am I a vegan?

You're just making stuff up. Dude, you definitely went like vegan one time in the 90s.
What are you talking about? In the 90s when he was 10? I was 10. Before veganism existed.
Billy, just so we're clear, you can't do it, right? It's insane that he did it 40 days in a row. So you cannot? I did it a couple times.
No, you didn't. Just answer the question.
Can you eat 40 registered chickens in a row? Days. Can I? Yes.
Do I want to? No. But you haven't, so you can't.
Exactly. Who's back of the week? Wait, Max, scale of 1 to 10, where is this in heartbreak? Good question.
Below the Kawhi shot, game seven Kawhi shot. Okay.
Above the Ben Simmons missed or passed where he could have. The game seven against the Hawks.
What about the confetti game? I mean, that's more you because you're sick and disgusting. What about? I'm just trying to gauge.
What about McNabb? You just keep trying to bring it back to Boston. This has nothing to do with Boston.
No, I mean, I think that was a playoff loss, was it not? We're talking about Philadelphia playoff losses. How old are you, Max? When they let off confetti before the game was over.
Which people online are very shocked to hear. Do you remember the McNabb game against...
I guess it was against Hank's Patriots. But how old were you? You were like seven, six.
I was eight years old for that. Where he threw up.
So that doesn't. Yeah.
I mean, I remember. I'll take it right.
Wait, Max. It was 12.
Max, do you think. It was 2004.
Yeah. And I was born in 95.
Later in 95. So, yes.
Okay. I can't do these.
Whenever the Super Bowl, the years and everything, it always fucks me up.

I think he's right.

Do they think you're older or younger?

Way older.

What was that question?

Way older.

You got people like, oh, dude, this guy who's a fucking bear of a man is 14?

I think every single video that is posted of me, I think half of the comments are, believe that that is that voice that man looks like he's 45 years old When was the last time you got carded for beer? I was buying beer in high school I was the designated beer guy for sure Alright Billy, who's back? Let's wrap it up My who's back of the week is Dimitri Baval. Yes.
Baval, he had a fight against Zerto Ramirez. It was 12 rounds, and he pieced him up.
That's a guy that eats a lot of rotisserie chicken as well. Yeah, he could eat 40 in a row.
Yeah, 100%. So he beat the shit out of him.
Baval is a close friend of mine. Beat Canelo and basically did this much larger Mexican guy, what Canelo wanted to do to Boval, which was outbox a larger opponent and look sick doing it and Boval did exactly that to Zardo Ramirez Nice How far away from talking about the greatness of Boval are we? I think Boval might end up being one of the best pound for pound fighters of all time? In the world, maybe even of all time Okay.
Let's just throw the word of all time out there. You can do that with boxers.
If you defend your title twice in a row, you can start having that discussion. He probably needs to fight Beterbiev, and that's the big fight.
But honestly, for his legacy, which he deserves, I think he needs to fight Canelo again at 168, get some belts from it, see where that goes. But the thing is, like, Boval's just such a nice guy, not such a flamboyant character.
I don't think he's ever going to get the media attention he deserves for how good of a boxer he is and, like, acclaim. So I'm just here to pump up my boy Boval.
Like it. I like it.
He deserves it. You're being a good friend.
By the way, I gave the pick 12 rounds by decision, win by points. Got it.
Gave it to you during Fantasy Fuck Boys if you didn't take it. I said it was free money and it was free money.
Thank you, Billy. Jake.
Billy was right. My who's back is college basketball.
Well, not above Sam Ellington. I was going to do college basketball just to watch you sweat a little bit, Jake.
No, it's fine. I had to back up.

I knew it was coming.

Yeah.

So it's opening day today.

Yep.

We've got hundreds of games this week, including the Barstool Sports Invitational Friday in Philadelphia.

Friday, yep.

Buy tickets.

Yeah.

The first game in the whole country to tip off the whole season will be recurring guests,

Scott Drew and Baylor against Mississippi Valley State at noon.

Whoa.

We've got day games.

All right.

Got to bet it.

A lot of people were asking if I'm doing bracketology again.

I'm retired.

Oh.

Why?

I don't know.

I was... Valley State at noon.
Whoa. Day games.
All right. Got to bet it.
A lot of people were asking if I'm doing bracketology again. I'm retired.
Oh, why? I don't know. It was a lot of work and it didn't get that many clicks.
I think you just got to throw one out then. Just throw one out at the beginning of the year.
Wisconsin, last four in. Nice.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
But really, last four in? That was a very funny way of saying I'm sorry. Wait, no, no.

Do one bracket to start.

All right.

Yeah.

I'll look into it.

Is Wisconsin in?

Yeah, I just said last four in.

But when you actually do your bracket?

Yeah.

I mean, like, unless they lose by the time I put it out.

Interesting.

Yeah, so get your tickets, barstool.link slash invitational.

Also a bonus, who's back?

Billy's wallet. No fucking way.
Stop. Billy came in.
Stop. Called me.
He's like, I'm locked out. Called me like six hours later.
He went downstairs. He said he's locked out so I can let him in the office.
I walk in the studio. I was just sitting right in his seat.
No fucking way. Stop.
Stop. You found my wallet? No, what the fuck? What are you looking at the inside? Oh, nice.
I still have no cash. No, I still have my lucky $2 bill.
I've been looking for this since Thursday. It was in plain sight right where you said it.
No, it's impossible. Someone must have just put it there.
Somebody broke into the office and put Billy's wallet backwards. Someone's fucking with you.
No, no, no. It's a great peek into Billy's mind.
No, dude, on Thursday, I got into the office. Then I realized that it must be in the building because there's no way I would have gone into the office without my wallet.
I was looking for it Thursday night. I tore apart the rundown chair with a knife to get inside of it.
That sounds reasonable. That was reasonable.
Like a normal reaction. And I looked all over this couch.
You smoked a bunch of weed and broke your nail in the other studio? No. My fake nails.
No. But I've been looking.
I actually broke tons of shit on my desk trying to find my wallet. Thank you guys so much for whoever found it.

I walked in.

I was like, oh, there's just a wallet here.

Someone's fucking with you, Billy.

We got to find out.

Someone definitely found it and put it there to make sure it got back to me.

Thank you for whoever did it.

I'm indebted.

This is just me.

Or it could have been on the couch you sit on.

You think someone found it and instead of being like, hey, Billy, I found your wallet,

they said, let me just go put it on the studio and not your desk. It also is like the couch you sit on the most throughout the week.
No, but what? It was right here on the couch? Yeah. Literally right here.
Can you do a reenactment of it, Jake? Place the wallet where you found it. Wait, wait, Billy.
Let Jake show you where he found it. Dramatic reenactment.
This is, no, the thing is I literally flipped over this couch on Thursday

looking for this

like I

flipped over the couch

so it couldn't have been

on top of the couch

maybe in all your

flipping over the couch

it threw the wallet

right back where it

should be in the first place

but

someone must have just put

thank you forever found it

I literally flipped

the couch over

okay

so it was impossible

if it was there on Thursday

okay well good job

thank you so much Jake

that's actually huge

I'm actually

oh there's a hug

that's so sweet

nice

beautiful

I love you. so it was impossible if it was there on Thursday okay well good job thank you so much Jake that's actually huge oh there's a hug that's so sweet our boys are getting along so well no you don't you have to let everyone go you don't get the number I'm taking 17 you did a false start we made the rule for Billy it has to be applied to you too just no one picked 17 because today's 11-6.
Yeah, so I'm going to take 17. No, you can't take 17.
I just did. That's too mean.
Just let him have 17. Do you want 69, Hank? Nah.
69. Yeah.
No, I already said 69. I already said 69.
No, you just offered it to Hank. Yeah, but implying that 69.
Yeah, that was up for grabs. No, no, Jake has 69.
Jake has 69. Yeah.
Jake, can I have 69 back? No. 18.
Give me your wallet. 18.
18. 18.
All right. I'm going to take 91.
20. Hank, have you ever gotten this? Nope.
I'm going to go with 84. Wait, do you want my number? Do you want 17? No.
I mean, I do, but... Do you want it? Sorry, 84.
Do you want it? I'll give it to you. I got 84.
You know what? You take 17, I'll take 84. No.
No, no. I want you to have 17.
Come on, I'll give you 17. You have 17, I'll have 84.
No, I committed to 84. No deal.
I was going to suck. Give us...
Wow, Hank, I'd be really bad. Wait, so what's the official law? I am officially offering 17 to Hank.
No, but no, I'm not doing this. I'm not doing this.
Hank said 84. Do you want 17? I wanted it when I said it.
So then take it. I'm giving it to you.
I couldn't. I'm giving it to you.
So I get 17 and 84. No, no, you get 17.
If you want 17, you get 17.

No, I want it.

I'm 84.

I'm committed.

Oh, my God.

If it's 17, this podcast is over.

Oh. 44.
44

Juice shake

That would have been an all time moment

If I had gotten 17 there

Damn Hank

Love you guys

Damn Hank

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