Dan Haren, Max Verstappen & Sergio Perez, Week 7 Picks And Preview And Fyre Fest

Dan Haren, Max Verstappen & Sergio Perez, Week 7 Picks And Preview And Fyre Fest

October 21, 2022 1h 59m Explicit

Week 7 is here and it could be a stinker but this is where true football guys are made. We talk about every game and do our picks and preview (00:02:23-00:50:08). Fantasy Phillyboys goes off the rails (00:50:08-00:57:37). Dan Haren joins the show to talk playoff baseball, rocking the baby on the bases, toughest guys to pitch to and who he has winning it all (00:57:37-01:25:25). Sergio Perez and Max Verstappen join the show ahead of the Austin Grand Prix as Red Bull Racing is about to clinch the constructors cup (01:25:25-01:44:28). We finish with Fyre fest of the week and Hank trying to guess the lottery ball (01:44:28-01:57:27)


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On today's part of my take, we have our good friend Dan Heron talking about playoff baseball. We also have Max and Checo back on the show talking about the F1 season, a little twofer for the people.

We are going to preview week seven in the NFL picks, storylines, everything that's going on.

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Fantasy Philly Boys?

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We probably should have Max do it too, just say said all over and over.

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And if you're listening to this, the Saints and Cardinals wasn't a good game. And the New York Yankees are going to beat the Astros.
So we're even it up. Yeah, we're recording early.
We got some stuff going on, so we're recording early. If anything crazy happened, you heard a different intro.
But do we want to do a prediction for saints and cardinals i'm gonna say i'm gonna say saints 23 cardinals 17 you know that we're gonna have to record again if james does start and because he will do something hilarious wait is james maybe gonna start it's like it's it's crazy because the saints have andy dalton also has a back injury now yeah um and i think think it's still up in the air. Maybe, Jake, you can check if it's official who's starting tonight.
I feel like we get a full dose of Taysom Hill tonight. I don't know why they don't just start Taysom Hill.
Start Taysom Hill. Just run the ball like 60 times.
Yeah. The bird gauntlet continues.
I think this will be the third one on the year for the Saints. Then they'll have three more.
First team to ever potentially do this. They beat the Seahawks and Falcons already.
Yeah, so I'm just rooting for the Saints to do that. If it flies, it dies.
Yeah, and it will be – this does feel like the Thursday night football game, whenever we have a standalone game, that if Cliff Kingsbury does something very dumb, it will accelerate the conversations that are already happening. Because you can see the media is starting to circle him.
They've been protected by not having any primetime games, for sure, or as many primetime games as other teams have. But, yeah, I think if they win this game, he'll end up at exactly 500 for his career in the NFL.
That blind resume is nuts, isn't it? It's crazy. I think people don't realize that Cliff Kingsbury is exactly who they thought he was when they hired him.
He has not been a disappointment based on his resume. He's been exactly what you should have thought that you were going to get.
He showed you what he is, and he's been that. Signs point to Andy Dalton.
Signs point to Andy Dalton is just, I don't know why, but the fact that Andy Dalton also has a back injury. I'm sure there's someone out there complaining about the training staff.
That's one of my favorite complaints.

Oh, yeah.

The training staff complaints.

We got to fire our trainer because we've got too many hamstring injuries this year.

Yeah.

Sometimes running at full speed in a full contact game like football lends itself to soft tissue injuries.

Yes.

Yes.

We had the NBA season kicked off and Zach Levine is already on load management for his knee.

So a lot of training staff complaints. What's going on? We reached going on we reached I think one well not even a full half of basketball before the Russell Westbrook trade talks started up I actually not to just derail to NBA real quick but I feel bad for Russell Westbrook I really do I think he like hates his life right now so Charles Barkley made the point at halftime last night that basketball and LeBron James and the Lakers and the media, everything that's happening to Westbrook right now is just sucking the life out of him.
Right. Like he's not happy anymore.
I would feel bad for him if he wasn't making, what, $30 million a year? Yeah. But it's still, I mean, and this is not a new point, but being LeBron's teammate has to be, like, the most difficult job in the world.
Not on the court, because LeBron is obviously one of the best all-time on the court. That makes it easier.
But it's every time you lose, it's someone else's fault. Every time you win, it's LeBron did it.
It's the Lakers tweeting out a picture in all their losses and refusing to put LeBron in the picture. Like, it's got to suck at some point to know that you are kind of the outcast in this weird Lakers team and everyone's making fun of you and you're like, can I just go back to playing for, like, the Thunder and no one caring? Yeah, so in an ideal environment, he should exist on a team that nobody really cares that much about and he should just try to get get triple-doubles every day.
Yes. That's what would make him happy.
And then his stats show up, and you're like, oh, shit, he had another great game last night, and you don't see all the weird shots that he took and all the turnovers that he had. But you see, okay, check it off.
He got 10 rebounds. He got 18 points, and he got 12 assists.
Great job, Russ. Right.
Good job, Russ. He's still a great player.
Okay. They're only plus 160 to miss the playoffs.
That's it? That's it. That's juicy.
Okay. All right.
You going to bet it? It's kind of low. I was hoping it was going to be a little bit higher.
It was last year. Yeah.
Yeah. They just stink.
Yeah, they do just stink. They're just a weird collection of talent.
Okay. Let's talk week seven.
I will say, I've said this a couple times on the show, I like the Pat Pav show. I love Rone.
So it is a little bit of a rock and a hard place where I kind of want them to do well for the podcast to do well, and I like Pat Beverly now. We're going to get Pat Beverly on the show, too.
I also can't in good spirits root for the Lakers and LeBron. No, but an implosion would also do good.
Yeah. Like, that's good for numbers, too, for sure.
Yeah. If they're just leading the headlines.
But not his spirit. Yeah, not his spirit.
True. But Pat Beverly's got so many dogs in him that his spirit will never be crushed.
I feel like Pat Beverly just floats above any sort of implosion that ever happens. Yeah.
And he does his own thing. Yes.
Yes, I'd agree week seven um not a great week let's just be honest with it beforehand uh we have the bills the rams the vikings and the eagles on by so if you're of the theory that there's really only like three to four good teams in the nfl right now well three three to four of those are the teams that are on a bye, which gives us some not ideal matchups. Well, like you were saying last week that the Lions lost to the bye week.
Yeah. These teams are butt-fucking the bye week.
Yeah, they are. I feel bad for the bye week because it is getting absolutely destroyed by the Eagles, Vikings, Chiefs, and Bills.
Yeah, and Josh. That's a murderer's row of teams facing the bye week.
Josh Allen was at the Padres game on Wednesday looking great. Like, he's butt-fucking the bye week.
Yeah, the bye week. I feel bad for the bye week, honestly.
This is kind of a loser-leaves-town matchup, I would say. Yeah, for the bye week.
Okay, so where are we at with standings? Let's hear it. It's ugly.
Yes, the chart itself is ugly, according to the finance bros. I think it's beautiful just the way it is, Jake.
Yeah, so Hank is in first place at 13-11. Big Cat, two behind him at 11-13.
Billy at 10-14. And we have a three-way tie for last.
I went 4-0. Max went 0-4.
So me, PFT, and Max are all 9-15. Those back-to-back 0-4s are gone.
So our picks are bad. Collectively, it's like what? 61-83.
It's 42%. That's all right.
Guess what? We have to pick an over and under. We have to pick an underdog and a favorite.
The unders hit like – I don't think I've gotten an over right on this show yet. I'm undefeated in underdogs.
Hank is 6-0. That's the only 6-0 or 0-6.
6-0 in dogs. Big Cat 1-5 in overs.
Oh, yeah. That's bad.
that's really bad and hank i don't like five and favorites and billy also i mean could i be any more on brand yeah that's exactly what you like hungry dog whatever it's crushing i i don't mind being tied for a lot i don't have to be you don't have to be faster than everybody else you just have to be faster than the tiger that's chasing you yeah exactly um okay let's get to it then let's talk about every game. Let's preview these games.
We got some bad games with a couple fun storylines. Hank, why don't you lead us off with your favorite? Yeah, you say bad games.
I look at this board. I see a lot of great games, a lot of great underdogs.
But as far as favorites go, did I even take a favorite? No. You have to.
I actually just marked a bunch of underdogs.

How about this?

Could you take an underdog

and then move the spread to make it

like the alternate line

and turn an underdog into a favorite?

How wild are you, Hank?

He's taking the Panthers minus one.

Yeah, you want to get real gremlin with it?

I just like all these underdogs.

Fuck, I actually was going through it

and I meant to mark them. I was like, no, that's a favorite.
Take the a favorite take the oh no no i have i have it no that that they are an underdog yeah but they are the fakest underdog on the board take the jaguars minus three the line makes no sense yep zero sense whatsoever that's vegas being like take the giants they want you to take the giants which means the jaguar to win. Win handily.
Don't fall for the trap. Take the Jaguars.
Yeah, this line makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Everybody that I've talked to that has looked at this line is like, what the hell is going on? This falls into Las Vegas knows something that we don't know.
And it's funny because Las Vegas could be so bad at their job that they could fuck up a line, and it would make me worse at my job

because I would assume that they're way smarter than I am.

There's two of those games this week that you look at and you're like,

this makes no sense.

Why is this favorite the favorite?

A couple stats from this game.

I have one crazy one that you guys are going to love.

But starting with Daniel Jones, we know it.

He's a road god.

He's 14-6 against the spread on the road. Here's a stat that blew my mind when I was looking through all these games.
The Jaguars have lost 18 consecutive games to NFC opponents, dating back to 2018. Since 2012, they're 4-39 against the NFC.
All four wins Blake Portals. Incredible.
I mean, that's crazy. 4-39 against the NFC.
All four wins, Blake Bortles. Incredible.
I mean, that's crazy. 4-39 against NFC teams.
0-18 in the last 18. Blake is the only one that could beat NFC teams.
Now, Blake also was 4-13 against the NFC because, obviously. That's four more wins.
That's four more wins. He's the only one who could beat the NFC in a Jaguars uniform.
So, he should be, they should bring him back just for the NFC game. It's funny because there's no real distinctive brand of football that the NFC plays as a collective that would make them so much better than the AFC in terms of matchups against the Jaguars, unless there's something that I'm not seeing.
Well, yeah, I mean, the Jaguars have been bad, but they did go to an AFC championship game in that stretch. Should have gone to the Super Bowl.
Yeah, it is like a Jaguars have been bad for the last decade stat, but 4-39 is... You'd think that you would luck into a couple wins here and there.
It is crazy. Did you know that the Giants last week, I think they had 51 players on their roster because they're in that deep of cap hell? Jesus.
Like, the Giants are doing all this. We talk about teams going, like, watch out, cap hell is coming.
Yeah. The Giants are currently thriving in hell.
We need to talk to the Giants and get Billy Football the safety and PFT the kicker. Yeah, I would do it for, what's the rookie minimum? I don't know.
Like, $200,000? You just don't even, just take it as a signing bonus and get paid a dollar. I would donate all that money to the Children's Hospital.
I'd donate it back to the Giants for their salary cap. Yeah, I mean, like, they are currently existing in hell right now, and they're thriving.
They absolutely love hell. But this game does make no sense.
The Jaguars shouldn't be favored over anyone. We talked about it when they were favored against the Texans.
They've been favored three times in the last two years. All three times they've lost outright.
All three times to the Texans. So i guess maybe the good news is they're not playing the texans this time yeah i was listening to a jaguars podcast earlier this week don't ask me why but they were talking about the tight end position okay and it's interesting because i don't think the jaguars have ever had a good tight end ever yeah like mercedes lewis is the only one i could think of but when he was on the jaguars i think he was just mostly a blocking tight end and you think of any other franchise and there's at least one tight end that you're like oh yeah that dude was a fucking monster yeah the jaguars have never had a good tight end ever that's true and i feel like that's i mean in today's nfl i would say that outside of like the quarterback and a dominant pass rusher a dominant tight end is probably the third best position to have.
All right, so I'm going to start using this because every team has a position they've lacked in their history. Unfortunately, the Bears, it's the quarterback, so that's why everyone picks on them.
But maybe I need to just start fighting fire with fire and just putting out bad tight end stats for the Jaguars. Yeah, I mean, just terrible.
Like Travis Kelsey would be the leading. If you combined all the Jaguars tight ends together, Travis Kelsey would still have better numbers.
In one season probably for Travis Kelsey. Yeah, I need to do that.
You could probably actually make a pretty good case for that. Outside of Tim Tebow, I can't name a single Jaguars tight end besides Mercedes Lewis.
And he wasn't even that good for them.

Right now it's Evan Engram, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So revenge game.

Oh, revenge game.

Oh, yeah.

Good call.

Great call.

Okay.

Good favorite pick, Hank.

Max, your favorite.

Favorite.

Same as mine.

I have Jags minus three.

Okay.

All right.

I also had Jags minus three.

Oh, shit.

But this is like.

Everyone's just fading the guy in first place. We have to start doing reverse order.
This isn't fair almost because Vegas made me take this game. Yeah.
By putting this line out here, this is fucking entrapment that Vegas is making me do right now. Because this line sucks.
This line is terrible. I hate every second of it.
So I feel like now I might want to reverse fade myself. Well, I have a favorite that's very similar to this one.
All right. I'm going to stick with it.
Jags minus three. The Broncos minus one.
I don't know why they're favored. The Jets are a better team.
It's minus a half right now. Minus a half.
Russell Wilson might not play. I actually think that might be good.
Brett Rippin would play, and the last time he started a game, he beat the Jets 2020, week four. So I just – this one makes no sense to me the Broncos defense is really good they aren't they aren't a good football team and the Jets are are what seems like a good football team I'm taking it just based on one team is looking really good one team couldn't look worse buy low sell high situation when your home system or appliance breaks down American Home Shield will help fix or replace the covered item, no matter its age.
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Your favorite favorite. Taking the Packers by five.
They're going against the Commanders, coming after that Jets loss. They think they're looking for a-back game.
I think the Commanders are the team that don't really have that much going for them

that they can take advantage of.

Taylor Heineke.

Taylor Heineke.

Yeah, I agree.

Taylor Heineke's playing.

Taylor Heineke.

I know, but still, first start in a long time.

The Heineke factor is something, but I think Aaron Rodgers is going to dial it up.

You did include the Heineke factor in your calculations.

Taylor Zineke.

But he can only do so much playing for the Commanders. Well, he's got weapons at wide receiver.
He does. The Packers might be like, I found a Packers stat that everyone's like, oh, is this different than the last few years where the Packers have slowly started and then riled off 13 wins? Matt LaFleur, as a coach, was 10 and 0 straight up off a loss until the jets so that's pretty crazy that he had you know been 10 and oh that's a little different he also was 21 and 0 straight up as a favorite of six points or more until the last two games so he's now 21 and 2 because they lost to the giants as an eight point favorite lost the jets as a seven-point favorite.
So maybe there is a little difference this year. So now you got me looking up stats to try to figure out when the last time the Green Bay Packers lost three consecutive games.
It's probably a long. No, it's probably the Mike McCarthy last year when they were really bad and everything fell apart.
Oh, 2005 it looks like. That's it? It wasn't't the last mike mccarthy year uh this this article came out 2015 2015 2015 2015 green bay packers have lost three consecutive games since their week seven by after starting the season at six and up so it's been a while no no i'm seeing 2018 like i like i said with the last mike mccarthy year they lost was that all aaron rogers games They lost to the Seahawks, Vikings, and Cardinals all in a row in that season.
Because that season spiraled out of control for them. I want to take the commanders because of Taylor Haneke.
I think that he's going to at least be fun, which I'm excited about. I'm excited about a fun quarterback for the first time.
Also, this is going to be, ironically, you know how we talked about how when the Eagles came down

to D.C. a few weeks ago, it was

like half and half Eagles fans

and usually it's like 50%

opposing team fans in that stadium right now.

I actually think that the team is

so bad and we're so close to

maybe Dan Snyder having to sell the team right

now that we're going to see

close to a sellout of D.C.

fans because they're going to want to be there to start to sell the team chance yeah and i think we're going to hear some loud fucking sell the team chance and i've decided you know we talked about like i would become a colts fan if jim ursay was the straw that broke the camel's back yep i'm going to buy season tickets to the colts wow if if if jim ursay can get the inside of the fuck out i'm to be a Colts season ticket holder, and I'm going to give tickets away every week that they're home to youngsters that want to attend their first Colts game. Maybe go to a Monday night game.
Yeah. Last point on this, I do think the Packers are going to need a statement win.
They're going to run up the score. It's going to be one of those things.
If it's close, they're not going to let up. They're just going to keep running it up in that.
So I agree with that, but that's also been my theory the last two weeks, i've gotten burned like i thought that that was what they had to do against the giants and the jets and they as touchdown favorites and they weren't able to do it so that's why i'm like maybe they're just bad gamblers dilemma the past doesn't dictate the future yeah that's true that is absolutely true um okay jake your favorite favorite i'm on the jaguars. As well.
That's why I'm scared. Minus three.
I might have to take the Giants as the underdog. I'm scared.
That is scary. And for the record, I think the Giants are going to beat the dog shit out of him.
Yeah. That's scary.
I don't know. Something about that minus sign.
That's very scary. Also, for the record, Billy has four and a half, not five on Green okay okay four and a half uh hank your underdog a lot a lot of good underdogs i think this is the week for the hungry dog parlay in general um for this purpose for this pick for this show you have a lot of hungry hungry dogs i have three i'm debating between talk it out out.
Talk it out. What are your three that you're debating between? Well, it's really like I like all these teams to win.
I like the Steelers to win. I like the 49ers to win because I think that line is a little bit low.
It doesn't make a lot of sense to me. And I like the Falcons.
Okay. And I'm going to take the – I also like the Lions.
A lot of dogs. I'm going to go with the Falcons.
Okay. Plus six and a half.
Can they go 7-0 against the spread? I think yes. Against the Bengals.
Against the Bengals. They and the Jets are the only two teams left that have been underdog in every single one of their games.
Love Joe Burrow. We're going to LSU this weekend.
He was just on the show this past week. But I don't know that they're that good.
Yeah. At least six and a half points good.
It does feel, though, I feel like the Bengals might have turned a little bit of a corner. But I think the Falcons are also not bad.
Yeah, yeah. No, no.
I agree. I agree.
Okay. I think everyone's going off the Bengals of last year and the Falcons of last year, and it's like these teams are a lot closer than needs to be eye.
The Bengals might have become the Bengals of last year again. That's my only point.
By barely beating the Saints? No, but they've changed their entire offense recently. I did some deep dives into the stats on what Joe Burrow is doing and how much he's going under center versus shotgun.
He's in shotgun like the entire time now, which I think if you're a quarterback, you've got to be pumped to have a game where you're just not going to go under center at all yeah it must be just you must get exhausted going under center like if you go there like 40 50 times in a game yeah having to just like bend your knees and then stand up and then run backwards that sucks yeah no and and i maybe it was just the saints game i had the saints but like them but it feels like they're starting to throw on first down more,

which they should be doing a lot more.

The Bengals also, their second-half defense.

You know the Bengals haven't given up a touchdown in the second half this year?

I did not know that.

They've given up 27 points, nine field goals.

Damn.

Yeah.

And that was what they were doing last year down the stretch,

where it was like, you know, remember even the Chiefs game in the regular season, the Chiefs game obviously in the playoffs, where it was like, oh, this game's over, the Bengals stink. They come out of halftime, and they shut everyone down.
Yeah. I mean, I do think that the Bengals might have turned a corner.
Yeah. Okay.
Your favorite, favorite, Max. Underdog.
Underdog, sorry. I'm taking the Texans, and I don't know why.
I picked it before, and I've been trying to come up with a reasoning in my head of why I like the Texans plus seven, but I just don't. But I'm still sticking with it.
Okay, just look good to you. The Raiders.
When I saw this, I was like, wait, the Raiders aren't one and four. That must be a mistake on this website.
So I went to a second website to verify. They must be the best 1-4 team of all time.
Well, they and the Lions are both 1-4, and they play fun football. So if you're 1-4 and you can't score, and your offense sucks, you watch it and you're like, that's a shitty team.
Whereas the Raiders, you watch it and you're like, they should be good, right? Yeah, so I think maybe that's why Max liked this game was because you see one in four. Like, no one in four team should be favored by seven points against anybody.
But I do think that this – the Raiders are better. You know, they say, like, your record is – you are what your record says.
You are Bill Parcells. Yeah, yeah, Bill Parcells.
I think in this case that's not true. I think Bill Parcells is wrong about these Raiders.
I think these Raiders are actually, like, three and is also one of those games that like i because there's only a few i think there's four games on in the afternoon so we'll obviously have it on tv but if you're watching on red zone i feel like you're not going to see much of this game no you're going to forget it even exists um okay your favorite underdog my favorite underdog is the lions plus seven i'm i'm mostly choosing the lions because well i got two reasons one because i think the lions will lose to every team by three points

that's been my theory on the lions all season long hasn't scared me wrong since the lions can

they can be competitive with any team in the nfl no matter how good or how shitty their opponent is

yeah they will play exactly to that level i also am rooting for the lions and betting on them in

this case because i want the storyline of dak prescott versus cooper rush is he back officially

I don't know. They will play exactly to that level I also am rooting for the Lions And betting on them in this case Because I want the storyline of Dak Prescott Versus Cooper Rush Is he back officially? I think Dak is back I think Dak's going to be back this weekend And as Skip Bayless has pointed out numerous times I think he's like 8-8 in his last 16 games Straight up So Dak, as Amari Cooper called him The Black Kirk Cousins The perfectly average quarterback I'm rooting for Dak to have a bad game just so that we can have the conversation of should they bring Cooper Rush back next week yes shout out Skip Bayless by the way King State Kings calling him stinking Riley for USC loss like that one just that's one of those ones where he puts it on you and it sticks and you just think of like I can't even even know what his first name is anymore.
It's stinking. No, and it's great because we all thought I should have thought of that earlier.
Yeah, right. Holy shit, that was right in front of us.
Stinking Riley. I went to the Pro Football reference page on Dak Prescott.
Great website. Great website.
Do you know what Dak Prescott's nickname is? I feel like we might have discussed this at some point. The gray boy.

The Fortress.

The Fortress.

They call him The Fortress.

Allegedly, that's Dak Prescott's nickname.

I don't know if he's ever been called that.

Or after Panama City.

I would say probably.

Or Daytona Beach.

I can't remember where he got beat up.

It was Panama City.

I would say probably before because he's certainly not great at defense.

Yeah.

So he's either The Fortress or his other nickname that they listed was Sir. Sir.
Okay. Sir.
Sir Dak. I like that.
Sir Dak. Okay, my underdog, we already talked about this game.
I'm riding the Taylor Heineke hype train. Let's go.
I'm taking the Commanders plus four and a half. I know that this is probably biased and that I think maybe this is finally the Packers kind of sucking, but Taylor Heineke is just fun and he's going to make fun plays.
He'll probably do something that will ruin this bet, but I'll take that chance. Yeah, he might.
He's going to do the thing where he probably will throw for a 40 yard touchdown to like a backup running back. That's wide open after he scrambles around the backfield.
And then he'll probably also throw a back-breaking interception where he points downfield and lets it fly, and there's somehow three safeties in the area that intercept the ball. When you're betting on a backup, I don't want to bet on a backup that's just going to do checkdowns all game and be like, well, let's run the offense and try not to make mistakes.
I want a guy who, if you get the best version of Taylor Heineke, the commanders are going to win this game outright. Taylor Heineke is a gunslinger.
Yeah. As we've said, he's Brett Favre with a bigger dick.
Yep. And he's playing against the Packers.
I like this opportunity for him, too, because he's not – if you look at his record, his record in D.C. is essentially the same winning percentage as Kirk Cousins was.
He's not that bad. No.
In fact, he hasn't really had that much of an opportunity to develop because he's always been seen as a backup. Like Scott Turner said, he wasn't drafted, so he's not going to have that long runway to develop as a quarterback.
He's got something in him that he could be a – I think he could be like an average to above-average starter if you gave him enough time. The two things that pop in my head when I think of Taylor Heineke, it's one diving for the pylon against the Bucs they covered.
Well, just every game he dives for the pylon. And then also remember last year that pass that he made against the Falcons where he literally went all the way to the sideline and tried to throw it all the way to the other sideline? Yeah.
I think it actually worked. No, I think they scored a touchdown.
Yeah, they scored a touchdown, and that was like, this is the guy because he will do dumb shit, and if the dumb shit works, you look like a genius. I'm actually excited to watch this Commandos game.
Yeah, me too. For the first time in a long time, I'm feeling good about the team, except for, did you see the 50-50 raffle news? Yeah, that broke my heart personally as a 50-50 guy.
You should be arrested if you don't fulfill your end of the 50-50 bargain. That's a 0-100 raffle is what they ended up doing.

So if you missed it, week one, someone won the 50-50 raffle for the Jaguars'

commanders game, didn't get the check right away, finally got the check,

went to deposit it, it bounced.

Yeah, it's the 0-100 raffle.

It was a misprint when they called it 50-50.

Jake was talking to me about that earlier, and he was like,

why was it only $14,000?

I was like, well, Jake, it was the commanders against the Jaguars. Right.
There weren't that many people at the game. And it's half, 50-50.
The 14,000 jackpot, that would probably be like a preseasoned Edmonton Oilers game. Yes.
Yes. When they get up to like $200,000, $300,000.
Yeah. Like life-changing money if you win the 50-50 raffle at a hockey game.
But I saw that, and I was like, this is the – I mean, my goal is to one day win the 50-50 raffle. I've said it before, but if I do one day win the 50-50 raffle, like if I won that one for $14,000, I think I'd still be negative in my life on 50-50 raffle expenditures.
So to go to the bank and have it bounce would just be – I feel for that guy so much. Like you lose even though you won the 50-50 raffle.
Right, right. So, yeah, their explanation was that the check was coming from the team's charity account.
So it wasn't like the team is broke. Somehow that's almost worse.
Yeah, way worse. Where it's like, wait a second, their explanation is we just don't give money to charity.
Yeah, right, zero yeah um okay your favorite underdog billy like the jets by one over the broncos have to take it the jets did let me down a lot of underdogs last year but after the packers win i think i'm gonna go with them again i like this one i think this is gonna be a big win hopefully we can get this one there's a There's a big stretch. We got the Patriots in two weeks.
If we can get this

win, I don't know what's going to happen in the Patriots game,

but I'd almost be like

we're good to go. Are you bye next week? Do you have a

bye week next week? Yes.

This would be a nice way to go into the bye week.

Zach Wilson comfortable playing in the

altitude. True.

Yeah, no, the Patriots are next week.

I asked you if there was a bye week.

I thought you said there was a bye week. Do you think the Patriots are a bye?

Oh, that's

what you're getting at. No, I literally just asked.

Remember, I'll be right back. Yeah, no, the Patriots are next week I asked you if there's a bye week I thought you said there was a bye week I think the Patriots are a bye Oh, that's what you're getting at

No, I literally just asked if there's a bye week next week

I was setting them up

That was a question of, is there a bye week next week

No, there's not, we have the Patriots

Oh shit, we almost forgot

It's October 21st today

Yeah

So tomorrow night, Saturday night, right?

Yep

Or like Sunday morning, 2am, whatever it is

Worst time of the year

Thank you. It's October 21st today.
Yeah. So that means, yeah.
So tomorrow night, Saturday night, right? Yep. Or like Sunday morning, 2 a.m., whatever it is.
You change the worst time of the year. Do they change them back? Yeah, we change them back and then we end up having, yeah, dark.
Oh, no. It gets dark at like 4 o'clock.
Yeah, that sucks. We're going to be in central time, too.
Oh, man. We're time traveling back and forth.
I thought that, like, fuck. Didn't Congress say that we weren't going to do that anymore? I guess we are.
So we should move to Arizona.

Yeah, they don't do that.

Or there's parts of Indiana that don't do it as well.

If you're in Louisiana, come to

LaBearge on Friday.

Fred's on Saturday. I think 6 to 8 on

Friday at LaBearge and then on

Saturday it's at, the show's

at 1230 at Fred's.

So two hours before kickoff. LaBearge in Lake Lake Charles.
That place has the best lazy river in the world. Yeah.
La Berge in Baton Rouge is the one we're talking about. Okay, nice.
Yeah, nice. Also Elite Hotel.
Elite Hotel, yes. Wilson's getting the altitude.
I'm pretty sure Utah is in altitude. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
He's got experience playing out there. Yeah.
Okay, Jake, your favorite underdog. So that's a half a point.
Half a point. Yeah, not one.
I'm with Hank. I got the Falcons plus six and a half.
This is my third straight week taking the Falcons as underdogs. So you got the same picks as Hank? So far, yes.
Also, I don't know why he's doing that because I'm trying to catch him. Hank's just turned the pot.
Yeah. I didn't.
I would fade you. You just said, hmm.
I didn't say anything. Hank, based on the work that you've done with the lottery machine, I don't think anybody would ever take your picks on anything.
Yeah, based on the fact that I won last year. He did win last year, and he's in first this year.
Yeah, only because I intentionally lost at the end, so I could go on a road trip. Okay, Hank, your favorite over.
You're just scared of winning, and that's fine. That's your thing.
I'm terrified of winning. We don't win anymore.
My over is going to be Jags-Giants over 42. Oh, we're just loading up on this game, boys.
Yeah, loaded up the chopper like it's December 31st. I'll get it.
That's just a song. Oh.
Lil Wayne, Rick Ross. Oh, you knew that.
Of course. You obviously knew that.
Tunechi. Yeah.
Oh, my God. I just think it's going to be a points bonanza.
If somehow the Giants are playing well and in this game, I think it's going to be a back-and-forth battle to elite quarterbacks just chucking it up. Just chucking it back and forth.
Okay. I do like the Giants' defense, though.
That's what makes it. I'm scared of this over.
They play. Are we still using the term, like, amoeba defense, or are we calling it positionless

defense now with Wink Martindale?

I just like it when teams line up and you've got, like, seven guys on the line of scrimmage

and you have no idea which direction any one of those guys is going to go at any given

time.

Right.

Right.

Okay, so, Max, your favorite over.

I've been doing this for every primetime game. It's disgusting.
I'm taking over Bears, Pats. Ooh, okay.
That is disgusting. 39 and a half.
Every single shitty primetime game, I've taken the over, and I'm getting absolutely crushed on every single one, but it's one of those things where I can't stop now because as soon as I stop. The Bears and the Pats, I'm calling the out and about special yes right right in line with their theme big cat um I don't know how you felt uh like looking back with the benefit of hindsight on uh Thursday Night Football last last week yeah it's it's embarrassing having your team on a national stage this is it this is the last one for the Bears this season I'm happy that it's over with um alsoichick, I mean, I'll just read a couple quotes.
I think we all agree he's the best coach of all time. He called the Bears a really impressive group with a lot of promising young players.
And he said Justin Fields is a major threat every time he touches the ball. He went on for eight minutes talking about how great the Bears are, which means they're going to hang a 50-burger on us.
But I'm going to take the compliment. You've got to take the compliment.
I'm going to take the compliment, and I'm just going to walk around. I've been walking around all week being like, you hear what Bill Belichick said about Justin Fields? Major threat every time he touches the ball.
A good spin zone is usually when he plays against a shitty team. He finds their holder to compliment for 10 minutes, where he's got really strong hands at the holding position.
That's what you look for. At least in this case, he's saying good things about your starting quarterback.

And he said that the Bears running game reminds him of the Cleveland.

It's just as good as the Cleveland game, the Cleveland running game.

They just like demolished the Cleveland running game.

So that makes me, it's going to be a long night.

I'm hoping there's two playoff baseball games to distract some people.

But Bill Belichick complimented Justin Felix at a major threat. I also also don't know i was thinking about it more that could be both ways because he is a major threat to the bears when he touches the ball right so he just when he has the ball it's a threat right it's like a bomb scare yeah it's a threat it's a threat for something bad for something good it's just a threat all around but again i'm at rock bottom so it's like if someone wants to tell me that uh they have a great promising group of young players which is so not true because their roster is going to completely turn over in the offseason i'm going to take that compliment i'm not going to worry about anything else hank are you thinking that mac jones or bailey zappy is going to start because the report just came out that mac Jones might be ready.
It also came out, John Feidelberg, crack investigative journalist,

exposed one of the beat writers for the Patriots.

I think that was fake.

What?

Although I think Feidelberg's specific DM was fake,

but Volin came out and apologized and said he should have vetted the DM better

because the DM was also fake.

I do have a fun stat.

This is from an account called Boss and Cream, so I haven't checked its validity. I don't want to hurt any feelings.
That sounds good. Fun fact.
Now this is going to be insults. The Chicago Bears have beaten the New England Patriots once in the last 35 years.
Okay. Is that the Super Bowl? I don't know.
No, that would be 37 years. They play in different conferences.
It's just a fun fact. I'm also looking forward to, I hope they show, I'm assuming they will, but maybe they won't because it's not Brady, but Tom Brady juking Brian Urlacher.
Yeah, 0-6. All-time highlight.
Just a fun one that I hope they show. That is kind of fun.
He was going the wrong way. That's fine.

You're going to win the game.

You don't have to do that.

I just – That's not –

They've only played it like 10 times since.

Yeah, it's fun.

I had fun.

I have a more insult stat for you if you want to go insult stats.

I just like the highlight.

It's not really a shot at the Bears.

It's just a hilarious like Tom Brady juking out Brian Ehrlich.

I can insult – I can over-insult stat you. Okay.
But you're insulting yourself. Yeah, I know.
I know. But that's the point.
You make fun of yourself. Bailey Zappi had 300-plus yards, 2-plus TD, 0 interceptions, and a win.
The Bears have had that 12 times in the history of their franchise. 12 times.
12 times a quarterback has thrown for 300-plus yards, two-plus TDs, zero interceptions, and a win. That's not like a crazy bar to reach.
I would just say how many times have the Jaguars had a tight end that caught 300 yards and two touchdowns in a game in a win. Probably never.
Trubisky did it twice in 2018. That was pretty cool.
Brian Hoyer, McCown.

That was actually a great game. I think it was the game against the Cowboys, and everyone was like, holy shit.
Josh McCown's the real deal. But, yeah.
I'm officially rooting in this game. I'm on Big Cat's side because much like the Cowboys game, I live for other teams' quarterback controversies.
That's what I get off on. Like, you guys are fucking perverts listening to this show when our teams suck When I get to see Like a real shitty Quarterback controversy Where the answer Should be glaringly obvious That's what I fucking love I Wait wait wait This is Yeah Billy Zappi Should be the quarterback Of the New England Patriots It's obvious To everybody that's Watched the game You said it yourself More zip He does have more zip Do you watch the games Yeah Billy Zappi Should be the quarterback More zip I'll be the I'll be the games? Yeah.
Bailey Zappi should be the quarterback. More zip.
I'll be the first to say it. Bailey Zappi should be the quarterback of that team.
I said this a year ago. Same.
Let's just hope that the Astros and Yankees have to go five games and the Phillies and Padres have to go six. And then there will be two baseball games on Monday Night Football, which would be a lifesaver.
A lifesaver for me. Especially if the Yankees get a big market.
Yeah. Everyone's talking.
I might just, if the game goes bad, I'm either going to go PS5 tweet right away or I might just live tweet baseball. Yeah, just do baseball the entire time.
The Yankees play game five. It's 4 o'clock Monday.
Yeah, I know, but that leads into it. Yeah, that would be two games, though.
So no matter what, there's, come on, Jake, don't do this to me. Isn't tonight the sports equinox? Yes.
Yes. Cooking up a parlay as we speak.
Yeah, that'd be two games, though. So no matter what, there's...
Don't do this to me. Isn't tonight the sports equinox?

Yes.

Cooking up a parlay as we speak.

Sports equinox. That should be

Rosillo's new podcast name.

The only two things he ever thinks about.

Alright, where are we?

Did you give your over?

I didn't give my over. I'm taking the over.

But Jake pointed at me.

No, you didn't give your over. I didn't give my over yet.
Yeah, go for it. Commanders Packers.
We've talked about it enough. Okay.
I will take the Bengals Falcons over 47 and a half. We've also talked about that game enough.
Billy. Lions Cowboys over 49.
That's a fun one. That is a fun one.
You know, we talked about the Lions as high-powered offense, put up a lot of points. Cowboys.
I don't think Dak's playing. No, he is.
He is? We think he might be. We think he is.
It's trending towards yes. Okay, that's good.
Dak's in. Probably put up some points.
We'll see what happens. 49 also isn't a crazy over number, so we'll see what goes on.
No, that isn't. If you have 17 and a half, you're still alive.
Yeah. The Glennie Balls method.
Jake, your favorite over. All right, i'm just catching up here so pft's number is 41 and a half on green bay and walk that's so easy to me isn't it 41 and a half aaron rogers taylor heineke no problem that happens in the first half billy has 49 yeah um i have kansas city san francisco over 48 and a half this is a super bowl rematch i think the san francisco offense has a chip on their shoulder, specifically Jimmy G from the Super Bowl.
And the Chiefs, their offense wasn't clicking last week. I think they can put up a big number this week.
Kyle Shanahan said that he watched the Super Bowl to prepare for this game. Yeah.
And I think maybe the first time he's gone back and watched it, a lot of bad feelings. I just would never.
If I lost the Super Bowl just i would try to pretend like it never yeah never existed my life yeah um the story this week about the 49ers and the trade market that's out there for christian mccaffrey is very interesting to me because we've always done the thing where we think and we imagine different quarterbacks in kyle shanahan's system and be like oh that'd be sweet if we got that guy in there. We never do that with running backs.
We should. Should we, though? No, we should this time, I'm saying.
Yeah, this time we – Yeah, this would be fun. So I got excited about it, but then I was like, wait a second.
The beauty of Kyle Shanahan's system is you can put anybody in there, but what if you actually took a superstar – Terrell Davis. – and put him in that system? Would he be, like, even better? Yeah.
Yeah, that's why I'm like, like, let's do this. Let's get this trade done.

I would rather see McCaffrey on the 49ers

than on the Bills just for this reason.

Yes, absolutely.

One other note about this game,

Jimmy G is 14-6 straight up

and 16-4 against the spread as an underdog.

That's pretty crazy.

He's just a winner.

He's a winner, but as an underdog,

that's pretty crazy.

Okay, Hank, let's finish up with our unders and then we'll hit any games we missed. Bears, Patriots, under.
Bears aren't going to score. But Bailey Zappi plays.
He might score 45 on his own. There's nothing I can say against that.
I mean, the Patriots don't really, you know, they're going to get a lead and then just run the clock out. Yeah.
Oh, by the way, there was a funny picture that someone sent me where the Bears are as a franchise. On Sunday afternoon, so the Bears played Thursday night, Sunday afternoon, 1 o'clock, NFL's going on.
What do you think George McCaskey was doing, the owner of the Bears? The president, whatever his official title is. What do you think he was doing? Playing pickleball.
Nope. He was mowing his own lawn.
Nope. Save a little bit of money.
Nope. Munching box.
He was a referee at a youth soccer game. I like that.
I was wearing a kid. So, sure.
Cool. I think I actually am going to defend George in this.

Watching the rest of the NFL is painful because it looks like a different sport.

Yeah, and also, if you're in that position for a team,

this is the one weekend that you have off where you get to do stuff like that. Yeah.

Like, your wife is probably super mad at you every other weekend

because you can't ever go hang out with the family.

You got to take advantage.

Yeah.

Okay.

Max, you're under.

Panthers, Bucs, under. 40 and a half, I think.
Yeah. Okay.
Max, you're under. Panthers, Bucs, under 40 and a half, I think.
Okay. Yes.
Okay. 40 and a half.
40 and a half. The Bucs had a players only meeting.
Yes. So that tells me that I might be betting on the Bucs.
I love a good players only meeting. Yeah.
And also the Bucs, I don't know if you saw the center because there's obviously a lot being made of Tom Brady yelling at his offensive lineman. Robert Hainsey, who is the center for the Bucs, said he loved it.
He loved it. He wanted them to yell at them.
They were doing a bad job. They're like, Daddy yelled at us.
We love that. He said, quote, I love that from him.
I know we all love that from him. It might look weird on TV, but that's football.
That's what you want from great teammates and great leaders, and he's the best there is. Yeah, I think that's probably true.
Yeah, so they're cool with it. They're cool with the undressing.
Okay, you're under PFT. My under is Texans Raiders, 45 and a half.
I don't see how this game gets above like 30. I think it's going to be ugly.
It's going to be a gross game. And also this is is like you mentioned earlier, probably not going to be on red zone that much.
Nope. So it's a game that you can just, this is the perfect game to bet the under on.
Yeah. Cause you don't feel like you're missing out on anything.
Okay. My under is, I'm going to have to, it's going to have to be perfect ball, but Broncos jets under 38 and a half.
The Broncos are five and one to the under this year. Both defenses are very good.
The under at mile high also since 2015 is hitting at 64.5%. This is a tough one, though.
When you get dipped below 40, you basically can't have a punt return or pick six or any weird plays to happen. So hold your nuts and under 38.5.
Billy. I'm going Seahawks-Chargers 51.
I said this about the Seahawks game last week. I thought they were going under.
Chargers went under on Monday. I think these guys are going to be under.
Okay. I think the Chargers defense is good enough to force anybody to an under.
And I also keep waiting for Geno Smith to, I guess, to stop writing me back. Yeah.
At some point it's's going to turn into a pumpkin, right? At some point, Geno Smith's going to re-become Geno Smith. But no, he just keeps fucking writing me letters.
Just writing back nonstop. Yeah.
And he is him. The last under.
I'm with Billy. Under 51.
Okay. So there's our picks.
Games we missed. The Browns and the Ravens are playing.
Feels like the Ravens have to get right against a Browns team that's floundering. The Ravens, in their three losses, how many seconds do you think they've trailed for? I think they've trailed for 120 seconds.
120 seconds. That's insane.
Yeah. 120 seconds.
They also, I think, have had a... I think the stat was they've had a double-digit lead in all their losses.
Yeah. Which also sucks.
Lamar just can't play in the fourth quarter for something. He's been objectively, like, awful in the fourth quarter.
Yeah. And it's not just flukes.
He's been just playing like shit in the fourth quarter. So, if they can somehow – I would just – I would say fuck it and just have Lamar run the football in the fourth quarter nonstop the entire time.
He's made some bad mistakes passing it. And so just get out to an early lead and then just try to suck the life out of him and not make any dumb mistakes.
And then I'm happy that none of us had picked this game because it's the Colts and Titans, which should be a big game. But it also just, oh yeah, the Colts and Titans are playing.
Vrabel's 4-0 against the spread and straight up off a bye week. That was the only stat I had for that.
Okay. I don't know.
If you have a strong opinion on this game, I call you a liar. Well, I think that if the Titans win this game, I'm ready to declare the Titans the winner of that division.
Yes. And if the Colts win, I might declare them.
Yeah. I don't know.
But I think if the Titans win, they'd have two in hand against the Colts, right? So I feel like that would make it really tough for the Colts win, I might declare them. I don't know.
But I think if the Titans win, they'd have two in hand against the Colts, right?

So I feel like that would make it really tough for the Colts to even try to come back against them as the season goes on.

Yes.

So I'm ready.

Whoever wins this game will win this division.

How about that?

You're ready to crown them champ.

Yep.

I like that.

I'm trying to see what other games we missed.

I think we hit everything. The return of Tua.

Yeah.

So I have something about that game. in your head.
Everyone close your eyes. Tell me your favorite memory of the Miami dolphins on Sunday night football.
My favorite memory of the Miami dolphins on Sunday night football. Call me crazy.
But I think when the Chris Forrester offensive line

cocaine story broke, was that during Sunday night football?

I don't think it was.

That would have been my favorite.

Might have.

It might have been.

I don't know when it broke.

So I thought about this, right?

I was thinking about going through all the games.

I was like, huh, Dolphins on Sunday night football.

I looked it up.

Since NBC took over Sunday night football in 2006 they've played two Sunday Nights two lowest in the league Jaguars have two as well it's actually funny because they played the first ever Sunday Night Football on NBC but it was Thursday Night Football because it kicked off the season it was Dante Culpepper Nick Saban versus Ch chaz batch because ben had gotten in his motorcycle accident so they played 2006 on thursday night 2010 week three jets beat him 31 23 chad henny versus mark sanchez and 2017 week nine against the raiders uh raiders 27 dolphins 24 cutler versus car they just don't ever get Sunday night football games. For perspective, the Dallas Cowboys have appeared on Sunday night football in the NBC era 56 times.
56 times the Dolphins have been on Sunday night football twice. And you might say, oh, flex isn't everything.
They've only been flexed out once. Yeah, I was going to say, I have memories off the top of my head from thursday night no monday night they don't play halloween walk off safety against the bengals they don't play sunday night football it's crazy game it was brady to i think welker 99 yard touchdown yeah it's just crazy because i was thinking about i was like wait do they never play sunday night football because it just looked weird seeing them on the schedule sunday night football into that jet game in 2010 but 2010, but yeah, they're never on it.
And it confirmed what I thought. They have been played on true Sunday night football game twice, twice in the last 18 years.
It's like the Jaguars. I don't think.
Jaguars are two as well. Yeah.
So they're the bottom. The two of them are the bottom.
It's about Florida. They just don't like sending people down to Florida on the weekends.
They have to be good. But they don't have to be good because there's also other teams.
I mean, the Bears have been on Sunday football 30 times. And the Jaguars had a couple good teams too, like back in the late 2000s.
Yeah, it's crazy. It's just crazy to think about.
Like, you can't think of any moment. We also have the Brian Flores revenge game.
He's on the Steelers coaching staff. And a little extra nice one is the Dolphins are wearing their throwbacks and doing a halftime presentation for the 72 undefeated team.
That's a 50-year anniversary. Dolphins throwbacks are very cool.
I haven't seen Mercury Morris out and about recently these days. Popping the champagne.
So I just looked it up. October 8, 2017 was the day that the Chris Forrester cocaine story broke during Sunday Night Football.
Okay, perfect. So that is my biggest Sunday Night Football memory.
It wasn't the Dolphins playing. It was another, yeah.
So yeah, enjoy it because you've only seen it. It's like Haley's Comet, the Dolphins on Sunday night football.
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Yeah, yeah.

No, you can do it, too.

Yeah, we'll do it.

We'll all do it.

Let's go.

Max can just grade us after.

That'll be good.

All right, fantasy Philly boys.

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Fuck, dude.

My name is Bryant Morland. Yo.
What's up, Bryant? It's a Bryant. Yeah.
Delco. My stardom is Adonis Johnson.
Adonis. Adonis.
Fucking Adonis. That's the name of the dude from fucking Creed.
Creed 3 is coming out. He's writing and directing.
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They got more ATVs in this one.

It's Rocky in it.

My Sidham. I love ATVs.

Probably.

I think he died in the last one.

He's a dead fuck.

He's a dead fucking pussy.

He's dead.

King of the fucking city.

My Sidham is pickleball.

Yeah.

Kevin Durant invested in the pickleball league.

LeBron's invested in the pickleball league.

Tom Brady's invested in the pickleball league.

Have you fucking guys watched pickleball? Pickleball's like Tom Brady's invested in the Pickleball League. Have you fucking guys watched Pickleball?

Pickleball is like tennis, right?

It's way more boring.

Way more boring.

I'd rather watch fucking golf.

I'd rather watch golf.

It's a much better sport.

Drink some water ice and watch some golf.

You drink water ice?

Yes.

Give me some water ice.

Play some golf.

My sleeper's Zion Williamson. Yeah.
He's back, all the way back. Lost a some water ice.
Play some golf. My sleeper, Zion Williamson.

Yeah.

He's back, all the way back, lost a bunch of weight.

Jockey boy.

He's fat.

Looking like a stud, beat that fucking dickhead Ben Simmons in Brooklyn last night.

Boo.

Comeback player of the year, I think.

Boo.

Yeah, Zion.

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Yeah. Because like Zion, you said Zion.
You got CJ. A funny little bird is a Pelican.
His beak can hold more than his belly can. They can make all the plays if Zion puts down the beignets.
But I don't know how the hell he can. A little lyric that I wrote about those fucking pelicans.
That was sick, yeah. Sitting James Franklin is a fucking joke.
Yeah. He's a fucking joke.
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And a little bit of greeny thrown in there, too. All right.
Before we get to Dan Heron, what's our Mount Rushmore this week? Back to four. Let's go four.
Yeah, yeah. Let's not overthink it this week.
Let's not overthink it. Let's give people some winners.
Okay. I'm going to go with Kenneth Walker, the third.
Michigan State versus the Chargers. Ooh.
Thoughts? Anyone? I'm going to go – I'm going to go with Derrick Henry. We're going to go with Derrick Our backup is now I'll throw some other ones out there What about Nick Chubb Nick Chubb Nick Chubb against the Ravens Let's get to No we want to give people He.
Okay. Yeah, but the bye week's getting butt-fucked.
Yeah, that's true. That would be nice to have for, like, next week.
Okay, let's get to Dan Heron, talk a little playoff baseball. Before we do that, Piazza, you got a quick word.
Yeah, can you imagine if Josh Allen hit against the bye week in the Mount Rushmore? The odds would be huge on that. Yeah.
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We'll get to that later. But, Dan, first of all, great to see you.
Been a while. why don't we start with this is the division series too short and how did the dodgers get screwed that was a fun storyline that all baseball wanted to uh pick up on i think the division series is too short though oh i don't understand i don't understand why you play 162 and then it's got to be five games.
I think the better

team would win out more often

in a seven-game series.

Why not make it

nine games or why not make it

11 or 13?

I like the idea of a shortened series

because there's a difference

between playing baseball in a long

season and playing baseball to win one game.

Yeah. I mean, I don't know your point I'm saying it's fun it adds some chaos yeah I mean you know all the hundred win teams pretty much got knocked out I mean it's just the the base it's just proven that the baseball playoffs seems so random uh when you know anything could happen in a short series and um I don't know the four teams left it's pretty interesting I mean I think the Astros probably the best team by far yeah uh of the final four I like the randomness of playoff baseball it is kind of cruel that the Dodgers season ended like that but I'm like they they got they were up one nothing in the series and then they lost three in a row like they had their pitching set up the the Padres were at a disadvantage they got all the things that you should get for winning that many games why also be like all right now they have to play seven games or now the Padres get all the games at home I or sorry the Dodgers like it it's just sometimes playoff baseball is whichever team gets hot at the right time.
You sound like a guy that's maybe have you won money. Have you been gambling? No, no.
No, I had nothing to do with it. I actually missed the – I literally – the college football was so crazy that Saturday.
I forgot the game was on. I woke up the next day, and I was like, oh, the Dodgers are out.
That's kind of funny. Yeah, no.
It was – yeah, you're right day and I was like oh the Dodgers are out that's kind of funny yeah no it was it yeah you're right though I mean the Dodgers had it 1-0 they had their pitching set up it's just you know it's the randomness of baseball you can get you know a couple walks and a blooper and the game changes and I think the bullpens too have just proven to be so important in these games just it seems like you know all these teams have guys coming in and throwing 100 miles an hour. Yeah.
Kind of the common denominator. I feel like back 10, 20 years ago, if there was ever a bullpen game, it was like a hold on to your shit game where let's see if we can scrape by.
Now I feel like bullpen games, they can be an advantage to a team that's got a good pitching staff. Yeah, if you're super deep in the bullpen in the bullpen yeah it is an advantage and a couple of teams left i mean even the yankees i mean you know starters are going to get pulled two times through the order and the yankees guy last night was throwing all right he got pulled um but uh you know tyler anderson got pulled a little early in that last dodger game uh you just you never it's kind of you know it you know, it's hard to let the pitcher go unless, because the bullpens are so good.
So you don't want to get the, you know, once you get two times through the lineup, it seems like the pitchers had it. Do you think the Yankees, like the big, we have a lot of Yankee fans in this office and they always complain about Aaron Boone and everything I understand, he's essentially just following a game script.
Do you think you think that there's not enough like gut feel when it comes to the managers in October like hey like you said like he was the Yankees starter uh Tyone was pitching pretty well let's fucking keep him out there why not yeah I mean there there could be a I mean there could be something to like overthinking things but um you know when it comes down to it there's a there's a lot that goes into the baseball, into the game before the game. So, you know, all the situations are brought up.
If this happens, if that happens, if we're up by this many, if we're down by this many, what are we going to do? So they are scripted kind of. But, you know, when it comes down to it, the manager's got to make the decision.
And, you know, it's not like the GM's calling down or anything. So, I don't know.
I mean, I like watching the starting pitchers that go 100-plus pitches with Darvish and Verlander, those guys. It's been fun to watch.
It's kind of old school there. Yeah.
Is it an advantage for the pitchers in the playoffs because you have more time to scout, like, one single opponent and don't have to worry about no I don't I think it's the opposite I mean it's it's so hard facing a team twice in a series um I mean you know and with these like especially that Dodgers Padres series you you can face in the same division you can say face the same team six times during the year and then you had to face them twice more in the postseason. It's tough.

And, you know, you start thinking, okay, how did I get this guy out?

What does he hit?

And you start eliminating pitches and stuff like that.

I think it's an advantage for the hitter.

Oh, that's interesting.

I didn't think of it that way.

I want to talk about a specific home run and a perspective from the pitcher's side.

Kyle Schwarber hit an absolute nuke against the Padres in game one. 488 feet.
I love Kyle Schwerber forever. Is there, when you give up a home run like that, when it's that hard hit and it's that far gone, does it hurt more? Like, does it hurt your psyche more as a pitcher? Or are you like, ah, whatever.
It's like one bad, you know, pitch. It's okay.
I'll the next one I think I think it's the opposite too on that is like I'd rather a guy hit an absolute rocket out of the stadium where I know off the bat it's gone whereas if you know if a guy if the if the outfielder's going back for a fly ball and you can see him timing it and he jumps and it barely goes out barely goes out out, you know? Okay. When I was pitching, when a guy would hit like a fly ball down the line and it was close to being a homer and close to not, I would always watch the batter.
I never wanted to watch the ball because I felt like if you watch the batter, you can tell if he thinks it's fair or foul and you could just kind of see him leaning. And you could you could see the second where he loses hope that it's going foul and it's a good thing so I always liked watching the batter okay so that's a good perspective because I like the way that Kyle Schwarber hit that ball I was thinking about the pitcher being like well fuck like that was he that was it was 120 exit velocity it was just absolutely pissed on but you're saying and i i guess i understand the perspective like i'd rather have that than like a cheapie or a pitch where it's like oh if i had just gotten it a little bit farther inside it wouldn't have been out and he just barely got it out exactly or you give up a cheap like a yankee stadium a fly ball right field that just barely goes in the front row i mean those are hearters.
The 480-foot moon ball, that's okay. I can handle that.
What about in the Guardians-Yankees series when Naylor did the rock the baby and the too short and the Pedro Serrano, I have marbles, that whole thing? If a batter did that to you, well, first of all, have you ever been stunted on like that in a game? Not hard that was that was over the top yeah I mean that's one where your own team is probably thinking Jesus like stop please stop yeah you know because that that was that was pretty brutal uh no I mean you know the games change that's fine I I you know I'm not a huge fan of all that I know we want to have fun and all but I I thought that the timing of it was pretty weird just being down by a few runs um you know I it was over the top for me yeah if somebody does that to you in a playoff game like how it must be hard for a pitcher to keep their composure and to not want to just drill that guy the next time it's very hard it's really hard I remember you know when I was pitching against your Cubs big cat I remember a guy I was with the Marlins Junior Lake yeah his name was you remember he was a legend for like a month and a half well in that month and a half he pimped a fucking homer off me so hard so fucking hard and I I was mad his own team was mad at him when he was running running around the bases well you know what i do instead of hitting junior lake i hit another player because then i because then junior lake actually feels bad about it so i think starlin castro came up and i drilled starlin castro and i was pointing that that's that was for him yeah you know so that maybe it causes like a kind of an issue in the clubhouse you know yeah that's what i was saying i was just playing playing mind games yeah i feel like it's like hitting i should have just hit multiple people besides like besides so you could hit jose ramirez hit the whole team josh naylor and then you then you hit oscar gonzalez and you hit the fight like you just you start making Naylor feel bad yeah I I was saying when he did that I would hate to be Naylor's teammate because you have to answer for what he did like I would actually be pissed off even before I got up to bat because I'd be like now I'm gonna I'm gonna wear one in my rib cage because of you yeah exactly yeah and you just gotta be thinking like it's gonna look so bad if

we if we lose and then now you lost and i mean i know that he's saying now that uh it was the you

know flattering that they're doing that but there's no way yeah he knows he got no that and

the way they lost and then having all the fans do it back to him it's brutal uh yeah speaking of

hitting batters um my guy anthony rizzo in the alcs how annoying is it to pitch to a guy like that because he not only crowds the plate but he also just has no problem getting hit like he just eats pitches and it doesn't affect him he doesn't move out of the way yeah yeah that's the thing it's like you you know from a righty you're throwing a lot of breaking balls to him and And if they're coming toward him, they're going to be going at his, like, back foot. And he just doesn't move.
So he gets hit so much. And he's so on top of the plate.
When he's doing his big leg kick, I mean, his knee is actually over the white of the plate. It's a very uncomfortable feeling because then if you're pitching outside, if you're going on the outside corner, that's like down the middle to him.
Right. So then you're forced to pitch him inside.
But then if you pitch him inside, you drill him. So it's tough.
It's a mind game for sure. I love when he gets like two strikes and he has – he chokes up so hard and he's so far in.
And you're just like – it looks so awkward that I would assume most pitchers are like this just doesn't feel right. Like everything about this doesn't feel no it doesn't it's a very uncomfortable feeling for a pitch it's just a tough visual

yeah it's tough looking at the plate and he's so right on top but you feel like there's nowhere to go yeah so it's yeah it's tough who would you rather pitch to in the playoffs jose altuve or Aaron Judge?

Oh, man.

I would say probably

Altuve right now.

Yeah. judge oh man uh i would say probably altube right now yeah small strike zone though yeah it is you gotta set your sights a little low um but uh no he's he struggled a little bit altube this postseason but he's he's been you know he's he's a tough one we faced the ashfords a couple times this year with a, and it was tough.
I will say this. I want to say this before we go too much further, is that I wanted to bring it up at the beginning, but this big cat.
Yeah. So you texted me saying you want me to come on the show.
Yeah. So then I went back and I looked at my texts from you.
Uh-oh. So my last text to you was on January 30th, I believe.

My birthday.

And it was me excited that you guys were coming to L.A. for the Super Bowl.

Oh, no.

And then I said, you asked if I was going to come hang out.

And I said, yes.

And then you said, fuck yes yes then the next text is July yeah the next text was from me so I would just say thinking to myself you know and then you text me wanting me to come on PMT you you've turned into the you you've turned into the friend that everybody has yeah everybody everybody has this friend I know that when they text you you know they want something from you no i that's i don't want to be that guy but okay so that you are the fair point you you are that guy fair you are that guy i have other i have other friends that are like this every time i get the text from okay i'm not going to say his name i'm like oh fuck what does he want me to do oh he wants me to do a fucking camp or a pitching clinic for this guy because it's always something.

It's never, hey, let's go get a beer.

Hey, this, this, and it.

It's always, oh, can I get this?

Can I have this?

Can you donate to this?

Okay.

You're that guy.

Two things.

Two things.

One, I take that for real because I do consider you a friend.

I'm putting Jake.

Please put that.

Jake is going to put in the calendar to text you randomly in two months' time,

just being like, what's up, so that we can get back on the same page.

Second, your last text me January 30th, that was my birthday,

and you didn't say happy birthday.

Ah, okay.

So you're flipping this one on me.

I'm just saying, you texted me on January 30th,

not saying happy birthday, asking if I was coming to L. coming to LA instead do you know when my birthday is yeah don't look at your no wait you're freezing you're freezing Dan you're frozen September 17th September 17th I want to say 1980 age 42 you're back you're not frozen anymore in Monterey Park california right that's right wow yeah all right hey listen i you gave me the scouting report i'm gonna work on it like i gotta be better i gotta be a better friend are you gonna be the are you gonna be in arizona for the super bowl this year probably yeah fuck yes let's hang out okay now we'll see i'll get a text in six months now yeah fuck yes let's.
Let's hang out. Well, how are your dogs doing? Dog.
Yeah. Remember Bernie? Oh, that was bad by me too.
Bernie, yes. Rest in peace.
I thought maybe you got another one. Wait, I don't know when the last time I came on this.
So did I tell you about my other pug that got attacked too? No. No.
There's another one that got attacked. So get this one.
So I leave the house, and my wife said that Tucker, my dog, who I adopted Tucker when I was on the Cubs, by the way. Okay.
I probably said that before, but he's a black pug. So she let him out because he was barking to get out at night, it was like 6 30 7 o'clock like sunset so she about five minutes later she said that tucker ran back to the door and was scratching to get in tucker she let tucker in he had bite marks on the top of his head and on the bottom a fucking coyote had his head in his mouth what he had a hole he had a hole on top of his head.
And so he was gushing blood. I took him to the thing, and they're just like, yeah, for sure, coyote.
But somehow he got away. I don't know how he got away.
I mean, we never leave the dogs outside because of what happened. And it was just like two minutes, and fucking coyote got his ass.
Well, he's got the dog in him. He does have the dog.
Yes, he does. Well, the coyote had the dog.
Yeah, that's true. That was the, that was a problem.
How do we defend your house? Have we figured out how to like, we need to do something to step up your coyote defense system. Cause whatever game plan we're running right now, it's not working.
Yeah. No, it's not.
They could, they could jump pretty high. So it's, yeah.
We got to make the gates higher. We usually just keep them out in the courtyard that you can't get through.
It's crazy, man. Hey, I actually feel really bad about this texting.
Did I mention I have two kids now? No. Pretty busy.
Whatever. That's fine.
I have three kids, though. I had three.
Fuck. All right, I'm trying every angle.
Dude, you just got dunked on. Yeah, your defense for what I'm trying to do right now is a lot better than your Coyote defense.
Yeah. Okay, that's fine.
Okay, wait, I had two more baseball questions, then I want to talk about the Lakers because you did send me a meme the other day that was very funny. And I knew that it was you watching the Lakers game one and being like, this is going to suck again.
Do you see how I sent you a meme? Just like, hey, this is a funny meme. Hey, Big Cat.
Look at this meme. Big Cat, can I get something? That's a good meme.
That's a good meme. It's Anthony Davis in a wheelchair, Russell Westbrook shooting a brick, and LeBron James looking like he's 80 years old.
There's a lot of memes. There's a lot of, like, I like the one with Russell, with Westbrook wearing a Russell Wilson jersey saying, let's ride.
Yes. That one's good.

It's going to be a long season for the Lakers.

Who's the scariest batter left right now?

It has to be Stanton, right?

You think so, or is it Jordan?

You know what?

Oh, Albert, I think from a scouting, because I still do the stuff with the Diamondbacks.

We've faced Jordan this year. He's the best hitter I've ever had to advance scout.
Whoa. I'm talking about covering all the pitches, hitting lefties, everything.
He's the best hitter I've ever had to scout. That's crazy.
And you've scouted a lot, Mike Trout, all these guys, and he is the best. Why is he the best? He covers everything.
So you're facing a hitter like when i'm trying to advance scout i'm looking at weaknesses of hitters and trying to match it to a pitcher's strength and they're there's just not very many weaknesses with him he covers everything in any count um it's it's really impressive yeah he is a beast he and he's another one where it's like you know a hitter's great. There's something about them when they're in the box, you're like damage is about to be done.
There's just way these guys stand in the box versus like the eighth or ninth hitter. Absolutely.
And you see it and you're like, this is going to be bad if you miss one pitch. And, you know, who has that stance is Stanton.

He has a stance where he's, like, super closed off.

Yep.

So, like, and I told you, I think I told you this on other podcasts,

but I faced Stanton a couple times.

He got me once or twice.

I always preferred pitching Stanton inside because you throw outside,

you better be ready for a fucking rocket back at your face.

But if it's inside, he's going to turn on it at least. He's going to pull it, get it out of there.
You know who was like that was Gary Sheffield. Every time he would step into the box, it's like, this guy's about to fuck everybody up.
Yeah. Yeah.
And he had that bat wiggle, and he would be right on top of the plate, and you would throw it inside and he'd pull it over the third base dugout just like you have no fucking chance yeah quickest quickest hands in the game i think um we always

we always say like uh anytime somebody does something or comes back from something like

still got your fastball did you have an actual moment where you were like i've still got my

fastball when i was playing yeah like did you did you maybe think that you were starting to like

lose a couple miles per hour and you went out there and struck some dude out and you're like

Thank you. when i was playing yeah like did you did you maybe think that you were starting to like lose a couple miles per hour and you went out there and struck some dude out and you're like yep still got my fastball no no not especially i remember the times where i was worried about my fastball would be like spring training when you haven't seen a radar gun reading in a few months you know and you're like fuck i wonder how it And then I would always tell, like, if it was, if I thought the radar would be low, I'd always tell the pitching coach, like, I don't want to see it.
I don't want to see it. I don't want to see my reading.
You know, I don't want to see how hard I was throwing. But then when everyone was gone, I would go, you know, go back and check and be like, oh, shit, it wasn't coming out very hot.
Yeah. Do you think that radar guns and having every single pitch charted on a radar gun has had any detrimental effect on pitching? Probably, yeah.
I mean, but the thing is, there's been a fascination or obsession with spin and now the sticky stuff has been gone it's it's more i think i think like the like i said earlier in the podcast it just seems like the velocity just seems like you want to all these bullpens the guys got throwing 100 101 miles an hour so um that's kind of you know i think we've gone away from the spin and it just seems like the velo is so important now. Yeah.
All right, so who do you have winning the World Series? I know we're already – Houston. Houston, easy? Easy.
Easy. Easy.
Okay, do you think they're cheating still? They're the most complete team left. I mean, Philly has the worst bullpen left in the playoffs.
San Diego I like, but I think their offense isn't, you know, toward the bottom of the lineup is not that great. And bullpen's been solid.
Yankees' bullpen struggles a little bit. They're hurt.
I think the Astros are in the best position. If the Yankees can't get past the Astros, should we be calling for Aaron Boone's head? No.

It's crazy how we blame managers.

Like Rob Thompson.

I mean, I've never met Rob Thompson.

I'm sure he's a great manager or whatever.

But the Phillies turn it around, and it's like, oh, Rob Thompson is a genius. I mean know they turn it around they're in the nlcs they're gonna go to the world series maybe but i mean it's it's all the players and it's you know they they were pretty stacked i know they were underperforming but you know as soon as they and as soon as they fired girardi they got they got pretty hot but i don't know it's i'd have to give the players a lot of credit on that yeah but I mean so many people have been saying World Series or bust World Series or bust for the Yankees it seems like we're losing the meaning of the word bust if we don't if we don't have the discussion yeah yeah I mean they had a great year I mean I don't know I think like a season that the Mets had where you have such high hopes

and you're eliminated. they had a great year.
I mean, I don't know. I think like a season that the Mets had where you have such high hopes

and you're eliminated so quick, that's a little tougher.

I mean, the Yankees, they're a little banged up right now too,

so they got that going for them.

But, yeah, I think the Astros by far the best team.

So in Dan Heron's world, would you have just the top two teams

from each league play each other in the World Series and that's it?

That's in a best of 17?

Yeah.

Well, let's call it best of 15.

Compromised.

Best of 15, yeah.

So whoever has the best record in each American and National League,

they just play?

Yeah, Dodgers-Astros.

Dodgers-Astros 15 games? Yeah. That's what you want.
That's what I want, yep. Or just one long game and it's like first to 100.
Yeah, ooh, that'd be cool. Yeah.
Cricket. Yeah, I like that.
Yes. All right, I had one last time.
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All right, so we're manalytics, not analytics on this podcast. Momentum is very much real in playoff baseball, is it not? Yes, it for sure is a team like the phillies who might not be the most talented team if they're compared to the astros or the dodgers whatever if they're our producer max is just shaking his head anytime we say anything even remote like you said the phillies don't have a super strong bullpen and he's just shaking his head like fuck this guy this guy.
And it's like he's just stating facts. But that's neither here.
Max, go ahead. Tell me how we're wrong.
I have much of – I disagree with a lot of what he said about the Phillies. Rob Thompson's been fantastic.
How can you look at what Rob Thompson has done and say that he has nothing to do with that? Well, I'm sure you know because you've played, right? I did play Division I baseball. Yeah, two home runs for Hofstra.
Hofstra, two home runs? Three home runs. Three home runs.
I was the Matt Stairs of the CAA. Everyone's saying it.
But what about when the players are saying that it's all credit to Rob Thompson because of the way that he has prepared the team? I understand that you're saying it's about the players on the field, but what about when the players on the field are saying it's Rob Thompson? They're saying what you have to say. You have to say the politically correct thing.
Yes, of course. But doesn't it matter what a manager does to a locker room? Like a locker room is everything, and if a manager can get a team together, then that is credit to a manager.
Dan, you're not counting vibes into all your... Well, baseball is vibes.
Baseball is so much vibes. Again, he's a Philly guy, so he like literally wants to fight me right now.
Now I want the Phillies to lose. I really want the Phillies to lose.
But all right, so back to what I was saying, like it did feel, I know they lost game two but it felt like the phillies were that team where everything was going well at the same time and everything was clicking at the same time and momentum is like everything in baseball i feel like i know everyone says like oh momentum is just your next day starting pitcher i don't buy it in playoff baseball if guys are swinging bats well it just kind of rolls into the next day it i think it does too and you you could feel it as a player you can feel it uh just like when it's turning you know a couple a couple things happen and the player you could just on on you know if a couple good things are happening say yesterday you know padres string a couple hits together a walk and the the players can feel it on the field. So it's tough to reverse that.
You need a big – that's why it's so important with the bullpen and shut down innings, stuff like that. It's just so important to try to kill that momentum because, yeah, things can get rolling off the hinges quick.
Yeah. I just want to read out loud a couple more Lakers memes to you, just verbally, if that's okay.
Okay. So there's one that says dreams, and it's Carmelo and LeBron James.
And then underneath it says reality, and it's Anthony Lynn and Carlos Boozer. I thought that was a pretty good one.
There's another one that says don't be a fan, or excuse me, if you weren't a fan when we were down by 30, don't be a fan when we're only down by 20. I thought that was kind of good.
And then the last one that I saw that I laughed at was, it's LeBron with his arm on Westbrook's shoulder, and LeBron's wearing his Lakers jersey number six, Westbrook's wearing his Lakers jersey number zero, and then it circled the six for LeBron and said, rings lost, and then it circled the zero for Westbrook and said, rings one. I thought that was cool, too.
Nice. Just some good internet stuff here.
Yeah. The meme game for the Lakers season is just beginning, yes.
Yes. All right, well, Dan, thank you as always.
We love having you on. I've taken the notes and I'm going back to the drawing board.
You're going to be pissed how much I text you. Okay.
We'll see about that. Yeah.
No, we will see about that. But are you going to – what are you going to be texting? You're going to be texting me you need something? No, no, no, no.
I'm going to be like, hey, hopping on the – I'm just going to send you all the texts I would send my wife. I'm going to be like hopping on now, be home at 15.
Whoops, sorry. Yeah.
Just all that. I think you got to send it, dude.
That would be good. Yeah.
I'll send you a nude. Yeah, I'm going to send you everything.
No, let's not do that. All right, Dan.
Thanks so much, man. We'll see you later.
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Enough of something completely different. Okay, we now welcome on recurring guest, friend of the program.
It is Max Verstappen and Sergio Perez off of, can I say the Constructors' Cup? You guys have won the Constructors' Cup. Can I say that? Not yet.
But we will. I wanted to try to get you guys.
Yeah, I wanted to get you to say that you did. I'm opening right now.
You probably can see. You guys sent us a box.
I think it was personally from you. Oh, and it's a box that actually just says congrats on the Constructors Cup.
So you guys, good job. I didn't agree on not sending that to you guys, but yeah.
It's a plaque that we can hang up in the studio to commemorate it. Yeah, it's Red Bull Austin.
So that's where you guys have the race coming up. Oh, nice.
Look at this, Red Bull Racing.

I have a box for PFT as well.

All right, so last we talked to you.

You do have to pay for the delivery fees, by the way.

Yes.

Oh, look.

You wrote a personal note to us, too.

Last we talked to you guys was the beginning of the season.

I will say, Max, you obviously won the championship.

How weird is it?

Or is it better than last year when you won dramatically in the last race? Was it better this year, like wrapping it all up with, with a lot of races left? I think both are nice. I just think that, you know, the, the year we had last year, it's not good to repeat that very often.
But yeah, this year has been, been really enjoyable. in a way, it's nice because I can enjoy my food a little bit more probably.
Yeah, but do you miss, like, the competitiveness going down to the very end? Do you miss that thrill of it's do or die time, you better show up this time or else you're going to lose? No, I mean, to be honest, you go into every race weekend and you want to do the best you can anyway, like i mean you need to get the best results for the team as well we know that we still need to win the constructors as well so uh that that doesn't really uh change um so checko you are currently second how we got to hold on to the second place right like we got to go one two for the season there's what four or five races left like is there any pressure that you're feeling like this would be a historic year if we go one two yeah it would be great for the team you know to get the constructors the championship and i want to at the end will be an amazing an amazing year there is four races to go so a lot still can happen so yeah we will We will try our best. Can you guarantee that you will try your best? I can guarantee that, I think.
Wow. Your best would be, that would result in you finishing in second place, right? Yeah.
I cannot take any more points away from Max. He's got a championship and pretty much the best i can do is to finish second yeah have you guys have you guys gotten to go out at all in austin texas have you explored the city of austin yet well i mean i only arrived yesterday uh evening so so not yet but it's it's a really cool place i want to give you guys recommendations for a good tacos if you want to go out in austin and get a good taco dinner go to tyson's tacos there won't be a line there not that many people know about it but it'll be some of the best tacos you'll ever have in your life get the crispy duck taco i invented that one i put that one on the menu there okay okay all right good you won't regret it yeah um what i was gonna say is daniel ricardo every year he does your former teammate um max uh it.
Yeah. What I was going to say is Daniel Ricciardo, every year, he does your former teammate, Max.
Your former teammate. Was he your teammate too, Sergio? It's been a while since I've watched Drive to Survive.
He hasn't been my teammate. Okay.
So your teammate in spirit, Max's teammate for real, he always goes all out for the Texas Grand Prix, and he's wearing the hat. He's a cow he's on a horse you guys gotta one-up him you gotta do everything like i i want to see you guys go all out and and steal his shine because it feels like he's trying to he's trying to one-up you guys and you guys are in the lead it's tough i mean daniel really um embraced i think he's actually born in the u.s maybe here even in austin actually.
He's not born in Perth, in Australia. So that's just a big cover-up.
But yeah, he loves it. Yeah, I remember when he was my teammate as well.
He was always super excited to come back here. Do you think that deep down he wants to be a NASCAR driver? Yeah.
I mean, it would suit him. He would love it.
Yeah, I think he wants to be a nascar driver yeah i mean it would suit him he would love it sure yeah i think he wants to be he wants to be the australian dale earnhardt and i think he'd probably be pretty good at it um i saw that you know he's like he's obviously a giant uh buffalo bills fan he likes american football and when you guys were in Miami, they had you put the American football helmets on.

Have you guys figured out what team you're going to support in the NFL?

Oh, I find that really tricky, to be honest. I just support the winner.
Yeah, that's smart. The Tennessee one.
That's smart. Checo, how are we feeling about Mexico and the World Cup coming up? Are you going to go to some of those games? Yeah, definitely.
You know, we're going to be in Abu Dhabi when the World Cup kicks up. So, yeah, we'll try to go and watch some games to support Mexico.
Are you going to the World Cup? I need to see when they're playing. But I think it's a bit – I think they're playing on Tuesday.

Well, Holland is playing on Tuesday when we are testing.

So I think that's going to be a little bit tough.

But, yeah, who knows?

I mean, there might be some other games we can go to that would be – I mean, it's not that far away anyway.

Yeah.

You guys got to get into it.

I love whenever – I mean, the World Cup's the best,

and the Mexican fans and the Dutch fans, it feels like they go all out and go crazy um you guys want to root for us maybe we'll root for you guys and you root for us like we'll do a truce right now i mean i'll root for you guys in the group stages and then it's done anyway so uh i can go back to supporting holland that's messed up yeah it's messed up we're gonna up. We're going to beat England.
England stinks. They always choke in big moments.
You know that. And I'll just say for the record, I will never support Mexico.
Your group is very difficult. Yeah, our group is very difficult.
You guys are in just jokes of groups. Mexico's with Poland, Argentina, and Saudi Arabia.
And then you, Max, you got, they put you with, yeah, you're playing Senegal, Ecuador, and Qatar, which like, do they even have a team? They just give them the World Cup and then you get an automatic team. If you don't advance, that's probably the biggest disappointment in the history of sports.
Sports, yeah, in sports. Mankind.
Mankind, yes. Well, actually, if you guys blew the Constructors' Cup this year with the lead you have, that would probably be it, right? That would come close, yeah.
But that won't happen. Yeah, no, you guys guaranteed it officially.
So with your second World Championship in a row, are you guys forming a dynasty right now?

Is that what's happening?

Are we witnessing the birth of a 10-year dynasty for Red Bull?

Well, I mean, that would be great.

But it's not that simple, of course.

But, of course, we are at the start of a new era with the cars as well.

So I really hope that we can be competitive for a while. And, yeah, it's all about, of course, also keeping all the good people together, right? It's a whole team effort.
And, you know, also with our powertrains coming along, it's really looking great for the future. But we have to, you know, keep pushing.
And I know, we know as a team as all, you know, we have been in a position where we were just not good enough. And, you know, we kept on working hard to try and be in the position of winning.

And we are in that now.

So we have to try and just keep it up.

So for fans like me who got into the sport with Drive to Survive,

can you guys give us a little, like, hint of how this next season is going to be?

Are you guys, Checo, are you featured in it?

Did we get the cameras on you?

Because I know Max, he said he didn't want the cameras on him last year, so we never got to see him. It was Netflix, I have to say that.
I did an interview this time, so you'll get to see me in it. Okay, and what about you, Checo? Do we get some storylines about you? Checo? Yeah, well, I think, I hope there will be something in it about me because, i've done quite a lot for them so it will be i think we're gonna be on it a bit so we'll see yeah what about um what about your boss christian horner has he um with the season yeah i know he's always on it he's he's he's got last year i think he think he had the beautiful tan that was ready for day one of filming.
But you can agree he does that to take the pressure off you guys, right? Yeah, right. Not because he loves having the cameras on them all the time and he thinks he's a real pretty guy, right? He's a great supporter.
He takes all the pressure from us. Yeah.
With the season, the way it's been going, it's been fantastic for both of you, and congratulations again. Has he stopped complaining as much about, like, Toto and everyone else? Yeah, well, there was not much to complain about.
They've never really been in our waters, so, yeah. I like that.
I like that. I like that.
Do you think that makes him angry, though?

Because things are going so well that he doesn't have anything to complain about

and he doesn't have anything to be angry about?

No, it's good.

It's been, this is what we want.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

Have you asked him about finding the perfect toilet before every race to pee in?

Because as he shared...

Yeah, we found that one in Japan.

It's called Toto.

So basically, you just sit on Toto and drop something on Toto. I'm very excited for Drive to Survive.
And, you know, the way they film it and, like, getting behind the scenes and all the intensity, you guys have to be, at the end of the season, like, is there a month or two where you just don't do any type of racing talk or any type of racing um anything because it's just so much pressure week in and week out two months is probably a bit much but you never get two months i try to at least have like two weeks fully let's say off from racing um because you know of course when the season finishes we we still have quite a few things to do for the team um and sponsors in general and then of course in January like quite early on you need to start training and and preparing for for the season ahead do you guys go like Checo do you go like extra slow for that two weeks off I would like be like just like I'm not going to go fast on anything. I do just move slow, drive slow.
Just, just try to relax. Yeah.
I really, those two weeks are the ones that you can really relax, you know, because when, when we have the summer break, you have to still train up because the season is carrying, you know, you're going to continue with the season. So now getting these two weeks,'s gonna be great you know you can eat whatever you want you can wake up at any time you want dehydrate yeah dehydrate a bit as well yeah how's the golf game right now checko it's bad it only gets better in december i'm gonna play a lot you know i i to be playing every day.
Oh, I love that. I'm curious if they gave you guys flashcards so that you can tell the difference between Paolo Banqueiro and Patrick Mahomes this time.
I know that there was some confusion about some of the celebrities. Are they letting you know which American celebrities will be attending so you can make sure that you know their names? Difficult so many on the grid it's like a zoo yeah it is crazy it is in the Miami that um that that whole scene when they were bouncing around and you had I mean there was I think it's because drive to survive and the fact that we don't have more than you know one or two races in America a year everyone wanted.
Everyone wanted to go out. And Miami's a party city.
It was very funny watching you guys. It would probably be like us going over to Mexico or Netherlands and meeting celebrities there and being like, we don't know who you are.
Yeah. Yeah.
But I guess that's normal, right? That you don't really recognize everyone. Because, I mean, there are so many invited.
But I think it's good for the sport in general, you know, that people from other sports also come over. And that's the same what we do sometimes, you know, when we are around in certain countries, you know, we try to, you know, get involved a little bit with, you know, the sports which are popular in that respective country.
Okay, so pop quiz. How many football or basketball players can you name from America?

Let's check or do that.

Let's see how deep we can get.

Footballers, quite a few.

Okay.

Basketballers, a bit less.

So give us a couple.

Just say some names.

Christian, I see.

This is American football.

Name one name I mean, of course we cannot forget Tom Brady

Okay, there we go

Patrick Mahomes

Oh my god

This is great

I'm really sorry, I just never really follow it

Josh Allen

Tim Tebow. All the greats.
Josh Allen is a good one. OJ Simpson.
Wow. Okay.
He did play football. Max, this might be a dumb question, so forgive me, but what's the difference between holland and the netherlands um well i mean i just i call it holland but of course you actually have to say the netherlands because holland can also be like um province uh like a state basically you know in in holland but the netherlands but it doesn't really matter i mean it's it's the same thing okay so the but the netherlands includes holland inside of it well the netherlands is the country yeah okay but i just find it a bit annoying to say so i always just say holland holland okay that makes sense that makes sense what um like officially you have to say the netherlands yeah yeah what um i know we're not jin.
And the Constructors' Cup, you still need to win it. You got some work to still be done.
But is there like a big party that gets planned? Is it, you know, in traditional, obviously, American sports, you see the locker room, they're just dousing each other. Then they go out and they party.
Do you guys have that chance once you actually clinch the whole thing? I mean, it would be nice being here in austin i mean then the sunday night can be uh can be quite good i think yeah yeah i mean you gotta do you get what what is it is it's what's the trophy the actual trophy uh it's uh it's a cup okay um and uh of course a bit more money yeah yeah the, as long as you have a cup that you can drink out of, it's fun. Like that makes every trophy should be a cup.
That works. Yeah.
So you can get loaded off of it. Yeah.
So I guess here's another dumb question for you guys. What's your favorite car? Not race car, just like all-time car.
It could be a convertible, could be a pickup truck. Well, I would always go for like a bit of speed, but also space, you know, because if you have a two-seater, yeah, okay, it's great.
It looks nice. It drives well.
But if you are with friends or family, you know, it's better to have a bit more space. I would always go probably for like an SUV.
A Ford Bron. Sticking with the theme.
A pickup. You should go for a pickup.
In Monaco, it would be easy to park. Oh yeah, that would be amazing around there.
Yeah. Daniel Ricciardo is going to pull up and he'll probably try to race in a pickup truck.
Yes. I think he has a Raptor.
Oh, I think he does. I saw him saw him driving it in L.A., so, yeah.
All right, I have one last question. You guys don't know a lot about professional football, so this is actually perfect because we do know a lot about it and we watch it endlessly and then we gamble on it and we lose all our money because we think we're experts.
So I want to give you a game. Just say which team should bet on and i'm gonna bet on that on sunday colts versus titans all in no colts versus titans who do you what's your pick titans it's easier to pronounce done i'm literally gonna put i'm gonna put real money on this it's the checo glock of the week also sponsored by max verstappen and i'm You can also put real money on this.
It's the Checo Glock of the Week, also sponsored by Max Verstappen.

And I'm going to bet the title.

You can also split it.

You can just split it.

Yeah, I'll split it.

That's fine.

What about how many points do you think?

Between one and 100 points, how many points do you think they'll score in that game?

Max, you can answer this one.

I think it's going to be quite a low score Okay Just because of the defense Yeah got it So Titans and the under I love it We're betting it Next time you guys come on before next season We'll let you know We'll either send you a bill for the loss or if we win,

well, we'll probably have already spent the money. So, but you know, you'll have the satisfaction.

That's a good one.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Winners win.

All right.

Well, thank you guys.

Best of luck this weekend.

Always appreciate you coming on.

And yeah, let's, let's have you back on before next season.

All right.

Yeah.

Great to catch up guys.

Okay. Let's wrap up the show.
Thanks to Max and Checo coming back on. A little F1 talk.
Fire Fest of the week. And then we'll do numbers.
Hank, have you ever gotten it? No. Can I go last? You can go last? Do you want to go last? With your Fire Fest? Yeah.
Okay. You want to go then? Where are you going last, Hank? Don't worry about it.
Uh-oh. Uh-oh.
This sounds bad. Do you have AIDS? No.
No. Okay.
This sounds really bad. My Firefest of the week is that winter kind of snuck up on me.
Yeah. And I feel like we only got maybe two weeks of the crisp autumn air feel, and it just went straight into, like, I woke up the other morning and I was cold.
I was cold right off the bat. And then I started thinking to myself, this, you know, that feeling that you get at the start of wintertime when you're like, this is going to stink for four and a half months.
Yes. And I got that feeling and it put me in a real bad mood for the rest of the day.
And my, my winter cycle goes through, I get happy on that first snow and I'm like, Oh, this is kind of cool. I love a good snowstorm.
And then it just everything is shit from that point out. But I felt that first little bit of wintertime the other morning.
And I thought to myself, like, I didn't even get to enjoy the season in between the seasons. Yeah.
And now we're changing the clocks and all that. And it's just it came on too strong this year.
I just I would like to request just give me two more weeks of fall two more weeks i feel like we got a little fall still left in us and i i love winter just because i can wear sweatshirts and um yeah you know i'm a fat person so it's nice a great coach once told me shout out coach wadaka never let the day of the week or the weather affect your mood oh that's that person is how is it how is it weather absolutely affects moods no no but and they like uh yeah yeah but if you don't like a rainy monday versus sunny friday i would actually say like the two man tuesday don't let it affect your mood you're gonna be swell you're right i might be swell i will say this uh moving to chicago obviously we are moving to chicago and every time i talk to people about it, like I'm moving to Chicago and they're like, oh, the winters are brutal. And I'm always like, I grew up in Massachusetts.
Winters fucking sucked there. We've lived in New York.
Winters suck here. I don't see it being a problem.
The way I describe it is there's. Like, yeah, winters suck, but winters suck.
Like what P.J. said, this winter is going to suck.
No, no, no. Winters sucks no matter what.
In Chicago, there'll be like a two-week stretch where it will be like five degrees.

That sucks.

And then also it does. It's not like I'm going outside when it's 30 degrees and like frolicking in the snow.

You got to step up your frolick game because that's actually pretty fun to do.

There is the feeling like there'll be a random snow cold day in like late March, early April,

and you're like, enough already. Yeah.
But other than that, it's pretty similar. The aftershock of snow always gets that late one.
And also like nice, you get like a nice stretch in early March. You're like, we made it.
And then it's like, nope, just kidding. It's winter still.
And in a big city, the worst part about winter, I think, is the piles of gray snow that start in like early December. And they just don't go anywhere until like mid-March.
And've got this slushy-ass gray snow that will be there until pretty much the NCAA tournament. I would actually come back to something.
I'd be hyped about a rainy Monday because that ensures that the humidity gets out of the sky for the weekend. Facts.
I'm always bitching on a Wednesday if it's still humid. I'm so mad when the humidity is still in the sky.
Well, that's how rain happens. Right, yeah.
So a rainy Monday you should be hyped for. That means a sunny weekend instead of a rainy weekend.
Well, let's embrace debate. What do you think is the best combination of weather slash day of the week possible? Saturday, sunny.
But wait, Billy, your coach told you not to let weather or day of the week affect your mood, so you should say all of them are the same. Right.
Checkmate. But my mood.
You checkmated,. You got checkmated.
Yeah, your mood because, yeah, weather does affect mood. But just for more activities.
Mood's the same, but activities are different. They're fun activities.
I don't mind a cloudy Thursday. Cloudy Thursdays are okay.
But, like, a beautiful, crisp fall Friday and Saturday. Oh, my God.
Nothing better. I would say a crisp, like, a 60-degree sunny Saturday.
No cloud in the sky. Oh, nothing better.
All right, my fire vest is we have the best job in the world, but this is the point of the football season where I'm, like, starting to, like, tap my head for the oxygen because I'm starting to get very, very tired. And, you know, when you get – I know you go through this too, PFT, where it's tired, where, like, your brain actually won't turn back on.
Like I went home last night and I watched the entire Yankees-Astros game and the Bulls game. I couldn't tell you one play for either because my brain was so off that I wasn't even like, I wasn't even absorbing any of the information.
Yeah, there's some certain days where you just look ahead in the schedule and you're already tired.

And you see like three, four days, five days down the line.

And you just think to yourself, I'm going to be tired consistently for the next week.

Yeah, there's no break.

And then I finally get one day off there.

And I've looked at that schedule and the break is Thanksgiving.

So that's tough.

Yeah, and I'm going to be going to Qatar for that.

So I'm tired.

I'm tired.

But again, I'm not complaining. It's just my fire press.
My brain has stopped working at times. Just like talk to us in February.
Yeah. Right.
Right. Okay, Billy, your FireFest.
So this one's pretty annoying. So I have a vehicle in this vehicle.
Why do you always make things mysterious that don't need to be mysterious? You have a car. Yes.
A truck. You want to see it? What kind of car? I hope this is going where I hope it's going.
Yeah, it's fucking annoying. So the vehicle, the truck.
Yeah. I've had it for a long time.
I've had it for a long time. As an individual, I do possess a vehicle.
It was pre-owned. Just one vehicle.
It was pre-owned by a guy. It was one of my, you know, one of my prouder purchases up until this moment.
It's been going well, but all of a sudden, it's got this thing where every time you stop, it'll go to a full stop, the engine turns off. Oh, that's green.
Right, it's green. Something to meet emissions requirements.
Yeah, Libby football. The thing about that is in all trucks from a certain year have been getting it to meet emissions requirements.
The thing is the car has to turn off and start back up again. And if people know, like the more miles you get on a truck, the more times you start a truck, the engines has got to turn over to start.
And sometimes it gets to a point where it doesn't start turning over. This is not a problem if you have it in your driveway and your car doesn't have to start up in the middle of, say, an intersection or dangerous places for your car to not be able to move.
So it was happening a couple of times where my car wasn't starting up for about like, you know, a couple seconds after, uh, shutting off. And, you know, let's say you're at a stoplight, you're at some random stop sign, not a big deal.
It happened to me in a busy ass intersection and I couldn't get the truck back started. And it was like, people were beeping at me.
It was a whole ordeal. Everyone was like, what the fuck? Why are you just fucking stopping the road? Turn the hazards on.
Everybody's yelling at me. I look like an asshole.
I totally understand I'm an asshole. And I'm pissed because that new, like the, the fucking, the trucks aren't built to like, they optimize the truck to turn off when you came to a full stop, but we don't have the technology to ensure that the car can start up again and again to the amount that this new eco requirements has done and putting people like myself in danger.
Like I could have been hit by like a 18 wheeler in that moment. AOC almost killed you.
Yeah. So yeah, exactly.
And I'm pissed. So Billy.
And I, the thing was, I was taking my truck to get the starter checked out at AutoZone when it happened. And, uh, the starter would have been easy to fix, but it turns out it's not even the starter.
The starter and the battery were fine. If there's, if there was only some sponsor that we had on part of my take...
I'm not looking for that. That might be listening to Billy's Fyre Fest.
And by the way, he's totally not asking for a truck from Chevy Silverado. I'm not.
But if you hypothetically were a sponsor of part of my take and you were a truck manufacturer, I'm sure Billy would want to talk to you. I don't want a truck because that's way too hard to capitalize.
It would be a real shame if a truck fell off the truck. Yep.
Yeah. Exactly.
I'm not asking for a truck. I was actually going to ask Chevy to give you a free truck.
I don't want a free truck. Billy doesn't, for the record, Billy will not accept your free truck.
But shout out to the guys on Billy's list who helped me out. Try to check the starter out.
Appreciate it. Wait, did you jailbreak your car? I jailbreak my car.
Hellbreak my car hell yes i did it was sick hell i i turned off the auto turn off yeah but i've still sent it in to get checked out what's your name just wasn't starting greta thurston or whatever is going to show up and slash your tires yeah come at me okay um you're fire fast you'd walk away from we're building yeah this uh the last week this intro podcast beef has got me really uncomfortable

yeah yeah you'd walk away from Rebellion yeah the last week this intro podcast beef has got me really uncomfortable yeah the video of Jake on the couch oh so good hopefully it comes to an end but tune in to PMTV it's out by the time you're listening to this to see how everything unfolded people watch Real Housewives, Real World all these things it sells this is actually very similar, Real Housewives, Real World, all these things. Yeah.
It sells. Yeah, this is actually very similar to Real Housewives.
Yeah. Exactly.
Well, this is all scripted. Oh, yeah, totally.
Yeah, so it's real housewives. That was the best part of it is that Billy on Thursday was like, we should fake you and PFT getting in a fight.
And like, well, why, why would we fake any? Let's not fake it because people will see it.

And then we got in a huge fight with Billy after.

It was perfect.

If you've ever seen us try to act at anything, we can't fake it.

In fact, I think every time we're asked to act in, whether it's a commercial or whatever shoot that we're doing,

the joke always just becomes, okay, we're just going to be so bad at acting that it will be funny.

Correct.

Correct.

Okay, Hank, I'm nervous for what you're going to say.

No, I just couldn't think of one.

Oh.

Oh.

You played that off pretty well.

Usually the last is usually like, oh, yes, someone died.

Well, yeah, Billy said basketball, but there wasn't really a fire fest.

Me and Billy are on a team, basketball team, but we won, dominated.

That's pretty awesome.

Billy, if I had to describe, we have a solid team. Everyone knows i'm an absolute fucking lethal shooter not much of a defensive player more of a one-way more of a one-way type of player billy's game is is exactly how you would expect it to be i didn't know what to expect i know he's been balling but he he's very physical he's quick athletic uh rebounder rebounder jumper shoots line drives like I've never seen a person shoot as straight as he does.
But he's a great play. It's literally exactly.
Sometimes you're like, is this going to be, is Billy going to be a finesse athlete? It's exactly what you'd expect. It's ironic, though.
He's just like, he'll take the ball, drive through the lane, and then throw it off the backboard. And then he'll get his rebound three times.
Yeah, whatever the opposite of the handshake meme is like billy's personal life versus billy's basketball game being a straight shooter yes yes always sweet okay uh hank your fire fest you never gotten the number i don't think that's a fire fest i think that's an ongoing fire your fire fest is that you have you you don't have five thousand dollars from you yeah yeah i think it's like kind, I think it's kind of fucked up. It takes people time.
Okay. I do feel bad sometimes.
We're making Hank our circus monkey. Yeah, that's true.
We've set this entire ping pong ball machine up to make him look bad. What if, you know.
It's a theory against him. It's just like, yeah.
Yeah, it's like NBA rig it's like we've got the frozen envelope this is all this is all fake we're no it's like it takes some time like it takes like i i used to be in a class where like you know you had to learn your states and capitals and if you don't learn you can't advance and took me forever and it's like you're talking about school yeah yeah yeah okay all right your number uh 16 i'll go 62 i'm I'm going to go 17. AJ Elmendinger Max 20 18 Hank I'm rooting for you Thank you Pick 16 Hank Gotta spread my wings That's a stupid number.
69! Oh! I am the champ! Good job Billy! I am the champ! I am the champ! Hell yeah! In your face! I wanna kiss it. Good job Billy.
That's so cool. Wow, he's got it like five times Hank.
You've never gotten it. You know what Billy, I'm gonna give you some money.
Oh nice! I'm gonna give you some money? Yeah I'm proud of you. This is amazing! I'm gonna give you some money.
How many times is that for you? I think it's like six Oh my god Wow Is Billy football bad for the lottery? He's too dominant That sucks Nice Good job Billy Way to pick the number right You got a skill that Hank does not possess Oh Hank What's your comment on Billy just being a fucking wagon? Yeah Like this is I'm rubbing the ball Scripted Everyone knows he's fucking been taking L's left and right, and you guys felt bad and wanted to give him a win. That's right.
All right. Enjoy your charity.
See you everyone Monday. I won at basketball last night, so it reverts all the L's.
Love you guys. Sometimes humans get angry irrationally when other things happen.
It's supposed to be animal facts, Billy. Humans are animals.

Oh, we got you again.

Take another out.

They are mammals.

We are animals.

Humans are mammals.

All mammals are animals. No.
Anyway, today is another day to find you. Shine away.
I'll be coming for your love, okay? Shine away. I'll be coming for your love, okay? Needless to say, I hope it's an end.
But I'll be you stumbling away weight Slowly learning that life is okay

Say up to me

It's so better to be safe than sorry

Say up to me

It's so better to be safe than sorry

Things that you say

Is it all I've all

Just to play my worries away

You're all the things I've got to remember

Thank you. Stay, yeah.
Is it life or just to play my memories away?

You're all the things I've got to remember.

Be shy and awake.

I'll be coming for you anyway.

Be shy and awake.

I'll be coming for you anyway. Take on.

Take on. Take on.
Anyway. Take on me Take on me Take me Take on me Take on me Take on me Take Take me up

Take me up