Dan Haren, Max Verstappen & Sergio Perez, Week 7 Picks And Preview And Fyre Fest

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Speaker 1 We are going to preview week seven in the NFL picks, uh, storylines, everything that's going on. Fantasy, what are we calling it? Fantasy Philly Boys, fantasy Phillboys, Phil Boys.

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Today is Friday, October 21st.

Speaker 1 And if you're listening to this, the Saints and Cardinals wasn't a good game.

Speaker 5 And the New York Yankees are going to beat the Astros.

Speaker 1 So we're recording. We're keeping it up.
Yeah, we're recording early.

Speaker 1 We got some stuff going on, so we're recording early. If anything crazy happened, you heard a different intro, but do we want to do a prediction for Saints and Cardinals?

Speaker 5 I'm going to say Saints 23,

Speaker 5 Cardinals 17.

Speaker 1 You know that we're going to have to record again if Jameis does start because he will do something hilarious.

Speaker 5 Wait, is Jameis maybe going to start? It's like,

Speaker 1 it's crazy because the Saints have Andy Dalton that also has a back injury now. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I think it's still up in the air. Maybe, Jake, you can check if it's official who's starting tonight.

Speaker 5 I feel like we get a full dose of Taysom Hill tonight.

Speaker 1 I don't know why they don't just start Taysom Hill. Just start Taysom.

Speaker 5 Run the ball. Just run the ball like 60 times.
Yeah. The bird gauntlet continues.
I think this will be the third one on the year for the Saints. Then they'll have three more.

Speaker 5 First team to ever potentially do this.

Speaker 1 They beat the Seahawks and Falcons already.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so I'm just rooting for the Saints to do that. If it flies, it dies.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and it will be, this does feel like the Thursday night football game, whenever we have a standalone game, that if Cliff Kingsbury does something very dumb, it will accelerate the conversations that are already happening.

Speaker 1 Because you can see the media is starting to circle him.

Speaker 5 They've been protected by not having any primetime games for sure. Or as many primetime games as other teams have.

Speaker 5 But yeah, I think if they win this game, he'll end up at exactly 500 for his career in the NFL. That blind resume is nuts, isn't it?

Speaker 5 I think people don't realize that Cliff Kingsbury is exactly who they thought he was when they hired him. Like he has not been a disappointment based on his resume.

Speaker 5 He's been exactly what you should have thought that he was.

Speaker 1 He showed you what he is, and he's been that. Yep.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So. Signs point to Andy Dalton.

Speaker 1 Signs point to Andy Dalton is just, it's, I don't know why, but like the fact that Andy Dalton also has a back injury, I'm sure there's someone out there complaining about the training staff.

Speaker 1 That's one of my favorite complaints. Oh, yeah.
The training staff complaints?

Speaker 5 We got to fire a trainer because we've got too many hamstring injuries this year. Yeah.
Well, sometimes running at full speed in a full contact game like football lends itself to soft tissue injuries.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. We had the NBA season kicked off and Zach Levine is already on load management for his knee, so a lot of training staff complaints.

Speaker 5 What's going on? We reached, I think, one, well, not even a full half of basketball before the Russell Westbrook trade talks started up.

Speaker 1 I actually, not to just derail to NBA real quick,

Speaker 1 but I feel bad for Russell Westbrook. I really do.
I think he hates his life right now.

Speaker 5 So Charles Barkley made the point at halftime last night that

Speaker 5 basketball and LeBron James and the Lakers and the media, everything that's happening to Russell Wilson Westbrook right now is just sucking the life out of him. Like he's not happy anymore.

Speaker 5 I would feel bad for him if he wasn't making, what, $30 million a year? Yeah.

Speaker 1 But it's still, I mean,

Speaker 1 and this is not a new point, but being LeBron's teammate has to be the most difficult job in the world. Not on the court, because LeBron is obviously one of the best all-time on the court.

Speaker 1 That makes it easier, but it's every time you lose, it's someone else's fault. Every time you win, it's LeBron did it.

Speaker 1 It's the Lakers tweeting out a picture in all their losses and refusing to put LeBron in the picture.

Speaker 1 Like it's gotta, it's gotta suck at some point to know that you are kind of the outcast in this Lakers, this weird Lakers team, and everyone's making fun of you, and you're like, can I just go back to playing for like the Thunder and no one caring?

Speaker 5 Yeah, so in an ideal environment, he should exist on a team that nobody really cares that much about, and he should just try to get triple-doubles every time. Yes, that's what would make him happy.

Speaker 5 And then his stats show up, and you're like, oh shit, he had another great game last night, and you don't see all the weird shots that he took and all the turnovers that he had, but you see, okay, check it off.

Speaker 5 He got 10 rebounds, he got 18 points, and he got 12 assists.

Speaker 1 Great job, Russ. Right, good job, Russ.
He's still a great player.

Speaker 1 Okay. They're only plus 160 to miss the playoffs.
That's it. That's it.

Speaker 1 Mm. That's juicy.
okay all right you're gonna bet it

Speaker 1 it's kind of low i was hoping it was gonna be a little bit higher it was last year yeah yeah they just stink yeah they do just stink they're just a weird collection of talent um okay let's let's talk week seven if the pat i will say i've said this a couple times on the show the i like the pat bev show i love rowan so it it is a little bit of a rock and a hard place where i kind of like want them to do well for the podcast to do well and i like pat beverly now but we're gonna get pat beverly on the show so i also can't a complete do that.

Speaker 1 A complete spirits route for the Lakers and LeBron.

Speaker 5 No, but an implosion would also do good. Yeah, like that's good for

Speaker 5 numbers, too, for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But not his spirit. Yeah, not his spirit.
True. But Pat Beverly's got so many dogs in him that his spirit will never be crushed.

Speaker 5 I feel like Pat Beverly just floats above any sort of implosion that ever happens. Yeah.
And he just does his own thing.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.
I'd agree. All right.
So week seven.

Speaker 1 Not a great week. Let's just be honest with it beforehand.

Speaker 1 We have the Bills, the Rams, the Vikings, and the Eagles on bye.

Speaker 1 So if you're of the theory that there's really only like three to four good teams in the NFL right now, well, three to four of those are the teams that are on a bye, which gives us some not ideal matchups.

Speaker 5 Well, like you were saying last week, that the Lions lost to the bye week. Yeah.
These teams are butt-fucking the bye week.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they are.

Speaker 5 I feel bad for the bye week because it is getting absolutely destroyed by the Eagles, Vikings, Chiefs, and Bills. Yeah, and Josh Alley.
That's a murderous row of teams facing the bye week.

Speaker 1 Josh Allen was at the Padres game on Wednesday looking great. Like, he's butt-fucking the bye week.

Speaker 5 Yeah, the bye week. I feel bad for the bye week, honestly.
Yeah. This is kind of a

Speaker 5 loser-leaves-town matchup, I would say.

Speaker 1 For the bye week. Okay, so where are we at with standings? Let's hear it.
It's ugly.

Speaker 7 Yes, the chart itself is ugly. I think

Speaker 5 it's beautiful just the way it is, Jake.

Speaker 7 Yeah, so Hank is in first place at 13 and 11. Big Cat, two behind him at 11 and 13.
Billy at 10 and 14. 14.

Speaker 7 And we have a three-way tie for last. I went 4-0.
Max went 0-4. So me, PFT, and Max are all 9-15.

Speaker 7 Those back-to-back 0-4s are gone.

Speaker 1 So our picks are bad. Collectively, it's like, what?

Speaker 7 61 and 83. It's 42%.

Speaker 1 That's all right. Guess what? We have to pick an over and under.
We have to pick an underdog and a favorite. The unders hit like...
I think, I don't think I've gotten an overright on this show yet.

Speaker 1 I'm undefeated in the dogs. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Hank is 6-0. That's the only 6-0 or 0-6.
6-0 in dogs. Big Cat 1-5 and over.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, that's bad. That's really bad.

Speaker 7 And Hank, I don't want 5- and favorites. And Billy, also.

Speaker 1 I mean, could I be any more on-brand? Yeah, that's exactly what you're like. A hungry dog.
Whatever. He's crushing.

Speaker 5 I don't mind being tied for a lot.

Speaker 5 You don't have to be faster than everybody else. You just have to be faster than the tiger that's chasing you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's get to it then. Let's talk about every game.
Let's preview these games.

Speaker 1 We got some bad games with

Speaker 1 a couple fun storylines. Hank, why don't you lead us off with your favorite?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you say bad games.

Speaker 1 I look at this board. I see a lot of great games, a lot of great underdogs.

Speaker 1 But as far as favorites go, did I even take a favorite? No. You have to.
I actually just marked a bunch of underdogs.

Speaker 1 How about this? Could you take

Speaker 1 it?

Speaker 5 Did you take an underdog and then move the spread to make it like the alternate line and turn an underdog into a favorite?

Speaker 1 No, no. How wild are you, Hank? He's taking the Panthers minus one.

Speaker 5 Yeah, you want to get real gremlin with it?

Speaker 1 I just like all these underdogs. Fuck, I actually was going through it and I meant to mark them.
I was like, nope, that's a favorite. Take the Giants.
Oh, no, no, I have it. I have it.
No,

Speaker 1 they are an underdog. Yeah.
But they are the fakest underdog on the board. Take the Jaguars minus three.
The line makes no sense. Yep.
Zero sense whatsoever. That's Vegas being like, take the Giants.

Speaker 1 They want you to take the Giants, which means the Jaguars are going to win, win handily. Don't fall for the trap.

Speaker 5 Take the Jaguars. Yeah, this line makes absolutely

Speaker 5 no sense whatsoever. Everybody that I've talked to that has looked at this line is like, what the hell is going on? This falls into Las Vegas knows something that we don't know.

Speaker 5 And it's funny because Las Vegas could be so bad at their job that they could fuck up a line and it would make me worse at my job because I would assume that they're way smarter than I am.

Speaker 1 There's two of those games this week that it's like you look at and you're like, what? This makes no sense. Why is this favorite the favorite?

Speaker 1 A couple stats from this game. I have one crazy one that you guys are going to love.
But starting with Daniel Jones, we know it. He's a road god.
He's 14 and 6 against the spread on the road.

Speaker 1 Here's the stat that blew my mind when I was looking through all these games. The Jaguars have lost 18 consecutive games to NFC opponents dating back to 2018.
Since 2012, they're 4-39 against the NFC.

Speaker 1 All four wins, Blake Portals.

Speaker 5 Incredible.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's crazy. 4-39 against NFC teams, 0-18 in their last 18.
Blake is the only one that could beat NFC teams. Now, Blake also was 4-13 against the NFC because obviously.
Four more wins.

Speaker 1 Four more wins. He's the only one who can beat the NFC in a Jaguars uniform.
It's funny,

Speaker 1 they should bring him back just for the NFC game.

Speaker 5 It's funny because there's no real distinctive brand of football that the NFC plays as a collective that would make them so much better than the AFC in terms of matchups against the Jaguars, unless there's something that I'm not seeing.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 the Jaguars have been bad, but they did go to an AFC championship game in that that stretch. So they've gone to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it is like a Jaguars have been bad for the last decade stat, but 4-39 is...

Speaker 1 You'd think that you would luck into a couple wins here and there.

Speaker 5 It is crazy. Did you know that the Giants last week, I think they had 51 players on their roster because they're in that deep of cap-hell? Jesus.
Like, the Giants are doing all this.

Speaker 5 We talk about teams going,

Speaker 5 like, watch out, cap-hell is coming. Yeah.
The Giants are currently thriving in hell.

Speaker 1 We need to talk to the Giants and get Billy Football the safety and PFT the kicker.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I would do it for what's the rookie minimum? I don't know. Like $200,000?

Speaker 1 You just don't even just take it as a signing bonus and get paid a dollar.

Speaker 5 I would donate all that money to the children's hospital

Speaker 1 back to the Giants for their salary cap.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I mean, like, they are currently existing in hell right now, and they're thriving. They absolutely love hell.

Speaker 1 But this game does make no sense.

Speaker 1 The Jaguars shouldn't be favored over anyone. We talked about it when they were favored against the Texans.
They've been favored three times in the last two years.

Speaker 1 All three times they've lost outright.

Speaker 1 All three times to the Texans. So I guess maybe the good news is they're not playing the Texans this time.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I was listening to a Jaguars podcast earlier this week. Don't ask me why.
But they were talking about the tight end position. Okay.

Speaker 5 And it's interesting because I don't think the Jaguars have ever had a good tight end ever. Yeah.
Like Mercedes-Lewis

Speaker 5 is the only one I could think of, but when he was on the Jaguars, I think he was just mostly a blocking tight end.

Speaker 5 And you think of any other franchise, and there's at least one tight end that you're like, oh, yeah, that that dude was a fucking monster yeah the jaguars have never had a good tight end ever that's true and i feel like that's i mean in today's nfl i would say that outside of like the quarterback and a dominant pass rusher a dominant tight end is probably the third best position to have this is all right so i'm going to start using this because this is you know every every team has a position they've uh lacked in their history unfortunately the bears it's the quarterback so that's why everyone picks on them um but maybe i need to just start fighting fire with fire and just putting out bad tight end stats for the Jaguars.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I mean, just terrible.

Speaker 1 Like, like Travis Kelsey would be the leading, if you combined all the Jaguars' tight ends together, Travis Kelsey would still have better numbers.

Speaker 5 In one season,

Speaker 1 for Travis Kelsey.

Speaker 5 You could probably actually make a pretty good case for that. Outside of Tim Thibault, I can't name a single Jaguars tight end besides Mercedes-Lewis.

Speaker 5 And he wasn't even that good for him.

Speaker 1 Now it's Evan Engram, right? Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's a revenge game. Oh, Revenge Game.
Oh, yeah. Good call.
Yeah. Revenge game.
Great call.

Speaker 1 Okay. Good, good favorite pick, Hank.
Max, your favorite favorite. Same as mine.
I have Jags minus three. Okay.
All right. I also had Jags minus three.
Oh, shit. But this is like.

Speaker 5 Everyone's just fading the guy in first place.

Speaker 1 We have to start doing reverse order.

Speaker 5 This isn't fair almost because Vegas made me take this game. Yeah.
By putting this line out here, this is fucking entrapment that Vegas is making me do right now because this line sucks.

Speaker 5 This line is terrible. I hate every second of it, so

Speaker 5 I feel like now I might want to reverse fade myself.

Speaker 1 Well, I have a favorite that's very similar to this one. All right, I'm going to stick with it.

Speaker 5 Jags minus three.

Speaker 1 The Broncos minus one. I don't know why they're favored.
The Jets are a better team. Minus a half right now.
Minus a half. Russell Wilson might not play.
I actually think that might be good.

Speaker 1 Brett Rippin would play, and the last time he started a game, he beat the Jets 2020, week four.

Speaker 1 So I just...

Speaker 1 This one makes no sense to me. The Broncos defense is really good.

Speaker 1 They aren't a good football team, and the Jets are what seems like a good football team. I'm taking it just based on one team is looking really good, one team couldn't look worse.

Speaker 1 Buy low, sell high situation.

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Speaker 1 Your favorite favorite?

Speaker 3 I'm taking the Packers by five. They're going against the Commanders coming after that Jets loss.
They think they're looking for a bounce back game.

Speaker 3 I think the Commanders are the team that don't really have that much going for them that they can take advantage of.

Speaker 5 Taylor Heineke. Taylor Heineke.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 5 Taylor Heineke's playing.

Speaker 3 Taylor Heineke. I know, but still, first start in a long time.

Speaker 3 The Heineke factor is something, but I think Aaron Rodgers is going to die.

Speaker 5 You did include the Heineke factor in your calculation.

Speaker 3 Taylor Zeineke.

Speaker 1 But he can only do so much playing for the Commanders.

Speaker 5 Well, he's got weapons at wide receiver.

Speaker 1 He does. But the Packers might be, like, I found a Packers stat that, you know, everyone's like, oh, this is.

Speaker 1 Is this different than the last few years where the Packers have slowly started and then riled off 13 wins?

Speaker 1 Matt LaFleur as a coach

Speaker 1 was 10-0 straight up off a loss until the Jets. So that's pretty crazy that he had been 10-0.
That's a little different.

Speaker 1 He also was 21-0 straight up as a favorite of six points or more until the last two games.

Speaker 1 So he's now 21-2 because they lost to the Giants as an eight-point favorite, lost to the Jets as a seven-point favorite. So maybe there is a little difference this year.

Speaker 5 So now you got me looking up stats to try to figure out when the last last time the Green Bay Packers lost three consecutive games.

Speaker 1 Well, it's probably a long... No, it's probably the Mike McCarthy last year when they were really bad and everything fell apart.

Speaker 5 Oh, 2005, it looks like.

Speaker 1 That's it?

Speaker 1 It wasn't the last Mike McCarthy year?

Speaker 5 This article came out

Speaker 5 2015. 2015.

Speaker 1 2015.

Speaker 5 The Green Bay Packers have lost three consecutive games since their week seven bye after starting the season at 6-0. So it's been a while.

Speaker 1 No, no, I'm seeing 2018, like I said, with the last Mike McCarthy year.

Speaker 5 They lost. Was that all Aaron Rodgers games?

Speaker 1 They lost to the Seahawks, Vikings, and Cardinals all in a row in that season because that season spiraled out of control. Okay.
For them.

Speaker 5 I want to take the Commanders because of Taylor Heineke. I think that he's going to at least be fun, which I'm excited about.
I'm excited about a fun quarterback for the first time.

Speaker 5 Also, this is going to be, ironically, you know how we talked about how when the Eagles came down to D.C. a few weeks ago, it was like half and half Eagles fans.

Speaker 5 And usually it's like 50% opposing team fans in that stadium right now.

Speaker 5 I actually think that the team is so bad, and we're so close to maybe Dan Snyder having to sell the team right now that we're going to see close to a sellout of DC fans

Speaker 1 because

Speaker 5 they're going to want to be there to start the sell the team chance.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 And I think we're going to hear some loud fucking sell the team chance.

Speaker 5 And I've decided, you know, we talked about like I would become a Colts fan if Jim Ursai was the straw that broke the Camels back. Yep.
I'm going to buy season tickets to the Colts next.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 5 If Jim Ursai can get Dan Seider the fuck out, I'm going to be a Colts season ticket holder, and I'm going to give tickets away every week that they're home to youngsters that want to attend their first Colts.

Speaker 1 Maybe go to a Monday night game.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Last point on this.
I do think the Packers are going to need a statement when they're going to run up the score. It's going to be one of those things.

Speaker 3 If it's like close, they're not going to let up. They're just going to keep running it up in that

Speaker 1 five score. I agree with that, but that's also been my theory the last two weeks, and I've gotten burned.
Like, I thought that that was what they had to do against the Giants and the Jets

Speaker 1 as touchdown favorites and they weren't able to do it. So that's why I'm like, maybe they're just bad.

Speaker 3 Gambler's dilemma, the past doesn't dictate the future.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true. That is absolutely true.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Jake, your favorite favorite?

Speaker 7 I'm on the Jaguars train. Wow.

Speaker 1 As well.

Speaker 1 That's why I'm scared. So now it's.
I might have to take the Giants as the $100. I'm scared.
That's.

Speaker 5 That is scary. And for the record, like, I think the Giants are going to beat the dog shit out of them.
Yeah, but scary. I don't know.
Something about that minus sign.

Speaker 1 That's very scary.

Speaker 7 Also for the record, Billy has four and a half, not five on green bag.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.
Four and a half.

Speaker 1 Hank, your underdog.

Speaker 1 A lot of good underdogs. I think this is the week for the hungry dog parlay in general

Speaker 1 for this purpose, for this pick, for this show.

Speaker 1 Hmm. You have a lot of

Speaker 1 hungry dogs. Come on.
I have three I'm debating between. Talk it out, talk it out.
What are your three that you're debating between?

Speaker 1 Well, it's really like I like all these teams to win I like the Steelers to win I like the 49ers to win because I think that line is a little bit low doesn't make a lot of sense to me

Speaker 1 and I like the Falcons okay and I'm going to take the I also like the Lions

Speaker 1 a lot a lot of dogs I'm gonna go with the Falcons okay plus six and a half can they go seven and oh against the spread I think against the Bengals they are against the Bengals they are in they and the Jets are the only two teams left that have been underdog in every single one of their games love Joe Burrow we're going to LSU this weekend he was just on the show show this past week, but I don't know that they're that good.

Speaker 1 Yeah. At least six and a half points good.
Does feel, though, I feel like the Bengals might have turned a little bit of a corner. But I think the Falcons are also like

Speaker 1 not terrible. Yeah, yeah, no, no, I agree.
I agree. Okay.

Speaker 1 Like, I think everyone's going off the Bengals of last year and the Falcons of last year, and it's like, you know, these teams are a lot closer than the Bengals might have become the Bengals of last year again.

Speaker 1 That's my only point. And maybe I'll.
Are they barely beating the Saints?

Speaker 5 No, but they've changed their entire offense recently.

Speaker 5 I did some deep dives into the stats on what Joe Burrow is doing and how much he's going under center versus shotgun.

Speaker 5 He's in shotgun the entire time now, which I think if you're a quarterback, that's got to, you've got to be pumped to have a game where you're just not going to go under center at all. Yeah.

Speaker 5 It must be just... You must get exhausted going under center like if you go there like 40, 50 times in a game.
Yeah. Having to just like bend your knees and then stand up.
And then run backwards.

Speaker 1 And then run backwards. That sucks.
Yeah. No, and I

Speaker 1 maybe it was just the Saints game. I had the Saints, but like them, it feels like they're starting to throw on first down more, which they should be doing a lot more.

Speaker 1 The Bengals also, their second half defense, you know, the Bengals haven't given up a touchdown in the second half this year. I did not know that.
They've given up 27 points, nine field goals. Damn.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So that, and that was what they were doing last year down the stretch, where it was like, you know, remember even the Chiefs game in the regular season, the Chiefs game, obviously in the playoffs, where it was like, oh, this game's over.

Speaker 1 The Bengals think. They come out of halftime and they shut everyone down.

Speaker 5 Yeah. I mean, I do think that the Bengals might have turned a corner.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.
Your favorite, favorite, Max?

Speaker 1 Underdog. Underdog, sorry.

Speaker 1 I'm taking the Texans, and I don't know why. I picked it before, and I've been trying to come up with a reasoning in my head of why I like the Texans plus seven,

Speaker 1 but I just don't, but I'm still sticking with it. Okay, just look at it's mafia.
Yeah, so

Speaker 5 when I saw this,

Speaker 5 I was like, wait, the Raiders aren't one and four.

Speaker 5 That must be a mistake on this website. So I went to a second website to verify.

Speaker 5 They must be the best one in four team of all time.

Speaker 1 Well, they and the Lions are both one and four and they play fun football.

Speaker 1 So you get, you know, like if you're one and four and you can't score and your offense sucks, you know, you watch it and you're like, that's a shitty team. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Whereas the Raiders, you watch it, you're like... They should be good, right?

Speaker 5 Yeah, so I think maybe that's why Max liked this game was because you see one and four, like no one in four team should be favored by seven points against anybody.

Speaker 5 But I do think that this the Raiders are better.

Speaker 1 You know, they say, like, your record is, you are what your record says you are, Bill Parcels.

Speaker 5 Bill Parcels. I think in this case, that's not true.
I think Bill Parcels is wrong about these Raiders. I think these Raiders are actually like three and three.

Speaker 1 This is also one of those games that, like, I,

Speaker 1 because there's only a few, I think there's four games on in the afternoon, so we'll obviously have it on TV. But if you're watching on red zone, I feel like you're not going to see much of this game.

Speaker 1 No. And you're going to forget it even exists.

Speaker 1 Okay, your favorite underdog?

Speaker 5 My favorite underdog is the Lions plus seven.

Speaker 5 I'm mostly choosing the Lions because, well, I got two reasons. One, because I think the Lions will lose to every team by three points.
That's been my theory on the Lions all season long.

Speaker 5 It hasn't steered me wrong since. The Lions can

Speaker 5 be competitive with any team in the NFL, no matter how good or how shitty their opponent is. They will play exactly to that level.

Speaker 5 I also am rooting for the Lions and betting on them in this case because I want the storyline of Dak Prescott versus Cooper Rush.

Speaker 1 Is he back to the expense officially? I think Dak is back.

Speaker 5 I think Dak's going to be back this weekend. And as Skip Bayless has pointed out numerous times, I think he's like 8-8 in his last 16 games straight up.

Speaker 5 So Dak, as Amari Cooper called him, the Black Kirk Cousins, the perfectly average quarterback, I'm rooting for Dak to have a bad game just so that we can have the conversation of should they bring Cooper Rush back in next week.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Shout out. Skip Bayless, by the way, King State Kings, calling him stinking Riley for when USC lost.

Speaker 1 Like that one just, that's one of those ones ones where he puts it on you and it sticks, and you just think of, like, I can't even, I don't even know what his first name is anymore. It's Stinking.

Speaker 5 No, and it's great because we all thought, I should have thought of that earlier. Yeah, right.
Holy shit, that was right in front of me. Stinking Riley.

Speaker 5 I went to the Pro Football, was it, Pro Football reference page on Dak Prescott's great website, yeah. Great website.
Do you know what Dak Prescott's nickname is?

Speaker 5 I feel like we might have discussed this at some point.

Speaker 1 The Gray Boy.

Speaker 5 The Fortress. The Fortress.
They call him The Fortress. Allegedly, that's Dak Prescott's name.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 5 I don't know if that's

Speaker 1 ever been called that? Or after Panama City? I would say probably Daytona Beach. I can't remember where he got beat up.

Speaker 5 It was Panama City. I would say probably before because he's certainly not great at defense.
Yeah. Yeah.
So

Speaker 5 he's either the Fortress or his other nickname that they listed was Sir.

Speaker 1 Sir. Okay.
Sir. Sir Dak.
I like that. Sir Dak.
Okay, my underdog, we already talked about this game.

Speaker 1 I'm riding the Taylor Heineke hype train. Let's go.

Speaker 1 Taking the Commanders plus four and a half.

Speaker 1 I know that this is probably biased and that I think maybe this is finally the Packers kind of sucking, but Taylor Heineke is just fun and he's going to make fun plays.

Speaker 1 He'll probably do something that will ruin this bet, but I'll take that chance.

Speaker 5 Yeah, he might. He's going to do the thing where he probably will throw for a 40-yard touchdown to like a backup running back that's wide open after he scrambles around the backfield.

Speaker 5 And then he'll probably also throw a back-breaking interception, but then he points downfield and lets it fly. And there's like somehow three safeties in the area that intercept the ball.

Speaker 1 And when you're betting on a backup, I don't want to bet on a backup that's just going to do check downs all game and be like, well, let's run the offense and try not to make mistakes.

Speaker 1 I want a guy who, if you get the best version of Taylor Heineke, the commanders are going to win this game outright.

Speaker 5 Taylor Heineke is a gunslinger. As we've said, he's Brett Favre with a bigger dick.
He's playing against the Packers. I like this opportunity for him, too, because...

Speaker 5 He's not, if you look at his record, his record in DC is essentially the same winning percentage as Kirk Cousins was.

Speaker 5 he's not that bad in fact he hasn't really had that much of an opportunity to develop because he's always been seen as a backup like Scott Turner said he wasn't drafted so he's not going to have that long runway to develop as a quarterback he's got something in him that he could be a good I think he could be like an average to above average starter if you gave him enough time the two things the two like

Speaker 1 Things that pop in my head when I think of Taylor Heineke, it's one diving for the pylon against the box they covered which is every game he dives for

Speaker 1 And then also, remember last year that pass that he made against the Falcons where he passed, like, he literally went all the way to the sideline and tried to throw it all the way to the other sideline.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 I think it actually worked. I think they score a touchdown.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they scored a touchdown, and that was like, this is the guy, because he will do dumb shit. And if the dumb shit works, you look like a genius.

Speaker 5 I'm actually excited to watch this command. Yeah, me too.
For the first time in a long time, I'm feeling good about the team, except for, did you see the 50-50 raffle news?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 that broke my heart personally. Yeah, you can't.

Speaker 5 You're a 50-50 guy. You should be arrested if you don't fulfill your end of the 50-50 bargain.
That's a 0-100 raffle.

Speaker 1 Yes. That's what they ended up doing.
So if you missed it, week one, someone won the 50-50 raffle for the Jaguars Commanders game,

Speaker 1 didn't get the check right away, finally got the check, went to deposit it, it bounced.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it's the 0-100 raffle.

Speaker 5 It was a misprint when they called it 50-50. Jake was talking to me about that earlier, and he was like, why was it only $14,000? I was like, well, Jake, it was the Commanders against the Jaguars.

Speaker 5 There weren't that many people at the game.

Speaker 1 And it's half, 50-50.

Speaker 5 The 14,000 jackpot, that would probably be like a preseasoned Edmonton Oilers game.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes, when they get up to like 200,000, 300,000.

Speaker 5 It's life-changing money if you win the 50-50 raffle at a hockey game.

Speaker 1 But I saw that and I was like, this is the,

Speaker 1 I mean, my goal is to one day win the 50-50 raffle.

Speaker 1 I've said it before, but if I do one day win the 50-50 raffle, like if I won that one for $14,000, I think I'd still be negative in my life on 50-50 raffle expenditures.

Speaker 1 So to go to the bank and have it bounce would just be,

Speaker 1 I feel for that guy so much.

Speaker 5 Like you lose even though you won the 50-50 raffle.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 5 So yeah, their explanation was that the check was coming from the team's charity account. So that's, it wasn't like the team is broke.
Somehow that's almost worse. Yeah, way worse.

Speaker 5 Where it's like, wait a second,

Speaker 5 they're just saying their explanation is we just don't give money to charity. Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 It's at zero.

Speaker 1 Okay, your favorite underdog, Billy.

Speaker 3 Like the Jets by one over the Broncos. Have to take it.
The Jets did let me down a lot of underdogs last year, but after the Packers win, I think I'm going to go with them again. I like this one.

Speaker 3 I think this is going to be a big win. Hopefully we can get this one.

Speaker 3 There's a big stretch. We got the Patriots in two weeks.
If we can get this win, I don't know what's going to happen with the Patriots game, but I'd almost be like, we're good to go.

Speaker 1 Are you bye next week? Do you have a bye week next week? Yes. Okay.
Yes. Yeah, this would be a nice way to go into the bye week.

Speaker 5 Zach Wilson comfortable playing in the altitude.

Speaker 1 True.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, the Patriots are next week. Oh,

Speaker 1 I asked you if there was a bye week.

Speaker 3 I thought you said there was a bye week.

Speaker 1 The Patriots are a bye?

Speaker 1 Oh, that's what you're getting at. No, I literally just.
I just remember October bye week next week.

Speaker 1 I was setting them up. No, that was a question of, is there a bye week next week?

Speaker 3 No, there's not.

Speaker 1 We have the Patriots. Okay.
Oh, shit. We almost.
The Patriots have a bye week.

Speaker 5 It's October 21st today. Yeah.

Speaker 5 So that means, yeah, so... Tomorrow night, Saturday night, right? Yep.
Or like Sunday morning, 2 a.m., whatever it is, you change the worst time of the year. Do they change them back?

Speaker 1 Yeah, we change them back, and then we end up having, yeah, dark, dark, it gets dark at like 4 o'clock. Yeah, we're going to be in Central Time, too.
Oh, man. We're time traveling back and forth.

Speaker 5 I thought that, like,

Speaker 5 didn't Congress say that we weren't going to do that anymore?

Speaker 1 I guess we are. So, everybody

Speaker 1 in Arizona. Yeah, they don't do that.
Or there's parts of Indiana that don't do it as well. If you're in Louisiana, come to LeBerges on Friday.
And Fred's on Saturday.

Speaker 1 6-8 on Friday at LeBerg's, and then on Saturday the show's at 12.30 at Fred's, so two hours before kickoff. Baton Rouge.

Speaker 5 LeBerges in Lake Charles. That place has like the best lazy river in the world.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 The LeBerg in Baton Rouge is the one we're talking about. Okay, nice.
Yeah, nice. Also elite hotel.
Elite Hotel, yes.

Speaker 3 Wilson's going to the altitude. I'm pretty sure Utah is in altitude.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 Like, he's got experience playing out there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, Jake, your favorite underdog.

Speaker 7 So that's a half a point.

Speaker 1 Half a point. Yeah, not one.

Speaker 7 I'm with Hank. I got the Falcons plus six and a half.
This is my third straight week taking the Falcons as underdogs.

Speaker 1 So you got the same picks as Hank?

Speaker 7 So far, yes. Also, I don't know why he's doing that because I'm trying to catch him.

Speaker 5 Hank's just stirring the pot.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I didn't.

Speaker 1 I would fade you, but I didn't say anything.

Speaker 5 Hank, based on the work that you've done with the lottery machine, I don't think anybody would ever take your picks on anything.

Speaker 1 Yeah, based on the fact that I won last year, but.

Speaker 7 He did win last year, and he's in first this year.

Speaker 5 Yeah, only because I intentionally lost at the end so I could go on a road trailer.

Speaker 1 Right. Okay, Hank, your favorite.
Over. You're just scared scared of winning, and that's fine.
That's your thing. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I'm terrified of winning.

Speaker 5 We don't win anymore.

Speaker 1 My over is going to be Jags Giants over 42. Oh, we're just loading up on this game, boy.
Yeah, loaded up the chopper like it's December 31st.

Speaker 1 I'll get it. That's just a song.
Oh.

Speaker 1 Little win or across.

Speaker 1 Oh, you knew that.

Speaker 5 Of course.

Speaker 1 You obviously knew that. Tanechi, yeah.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 I just think it's going to be a points bonanza. If somehow the are playing well and in this game, I think it's going to be a back and forth battle.
Two elite quarterbacks just chucking it up.

Speaker 1 Just chucking it back and forth.

Speaker 5 Okay. I do like the Giants' defense, though.
That's what makes it. I'm scared of this over.

Speaker 1 They play.

Speaker 5 Are we still using the term like amoeba defense or are we calling it positionless defense now with

Speaker 1 Wink Martindale?

Speaker 5 I just like it when teams line up and you've got like seven guys on the line of scrimmage and you have no idea which direction any one of those guys is going to go at any given time.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 Okay, so Max, your favorite over?

Speaker 1 I've been doing this for every primetime game. It's disgusting.
I'm taking over Bears, Pats. Ooh.
Okay. That is disgusting.
39 and a half.

Speaker 1 Every single shitty primetime game, I've taken the over, and I'm getting absolutely crushed on every single one, but it's one of those things where I can't stop now because as soon as I stop.

Speaker 5 The Bears and the Pats, I'm calling this one the Out and About Special.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 5 Right in line with their theme. Big Cat.
I don't know how you felt like looking back with the benefit of hindsight on Thursday night football last week. Yeah,

Speaker 5 it's embarrassing having your team on a national stage.

Speaker 1 This is it. This is the last one for the Bears this season.
I'm happy that it's over with.

Speaker 1 Also, Bill Belichick, I mean, I'll just read a couple quotes. I think we all agree is the best coach of all time.
He called the Bears a really impressive group with a lot of promising young players.

Speaker 1 And he said, Justin Fields is a major threat every time he touches the ball. He went on for eight minutes talking about how great the Bears are, which means they're going to hang a 50 burger on us.

Speaker 1 But I'm going to take the compliment. You got to take the compliment.
I'm going to take the compliment. I'm just going to walk around.

Speaker 1 Like, I've been walking around all week being like, you hear what Bill Belichick said about Justin Fields? Major threat every time he touches the ball.

Speaker 5 A good spin zone is usually when he plays against a shitty team. He finds like their holder to compliment for 10 minutes where he's like, he's got really strong hands at the holding position.

Speaker 5 That's what you look for. At least in this case, he's saying good things about your starting quarterback.

Speaker 1 And he said that

Speaker 1 the Bears running game reminds him of the Cleveland. It's just as good as the Cleveland game, the Cleveland running game.
They just like demolished the Cleveland running game.

Speaker 1 So that makes me, it's going to be a long night. I'm hoping there's two playoff baseball games to distract some people.

Speaker 1 But Bill Belichick complimented Justin Fields. He said a major threat.
I also don't know. I was thinking about it more.

Speaker 1 That could be both ways because he is a major threat to the Bears when he touches the ball.

Speaker 1 So he just. When he has the ball, it's a threat.

Speaker 5 It's like a bomb scare. Yeah, it's a threat.

Speaker 1 It's a threat for something bad, for something good. It's just a threat all around.

Speaker 1 But again, I'm at rock bottom, so it's like if someone wants to tell me that they have a great, promising group of young players, which is so not true because their roster is going to completely turn over in the offseason, I'm going to take that compliment and I'm not going to worry about anything else.

Speaker 5 Hank, are you thinking that Mac Jones or Bailey Zappi is going to start? Because the report just came out that Mac Jones might be ready.

Speaker 1 It also came out: John Feidelberg, crack investigative journalist, exposed one of the beat writers for the Patriots. I think that was fake.
What? Although

Speaker 1 I think Feidelberg's specific DM was fake, but Volan came out and apologized and said he should have vetted the DM better because the DM was also fake. I do have a fun stat.

Speaker 1 This is from an account called Boston Cream, so I haven't checked its validity. I don't want to hurt any feelings.
That's good. Fun fact.
No, this is going to be insulting.

Speaker 1 The Chicago Bears have beaten the New England Patriots once in the last 35 years.

Speaker 1 Okay. I mean, they play.
Is it the Super Bowl? I don't know. Again, I don't want to hurt feelings, but.

Speaker 1 Years.

Speaker 1 They play in different conferences.

Speaker 1 It's just a fun fact. I'm also looking forward to it.
I hope they show out. I'm assuming they will, but the maybe they won't because it's not Brady, but Tom Brady juking Brian Erlacher.
Yeah. 06.

Speaker 1 All-time highlight. Yeah.
Just a fun one that I hope they show.

Speaker 1 That is because he was going the wrong way. That's fine.

Speaker 1 You're going to win the game. You don't have to do that.

Speaker 1 That's not a

Speaker 7 Like 10 times since.

Speaker 1 It's such fun. I had fun.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I have a more insult stat for you if you want to go insult stats. I just like the highlights.
I can't really shout at the Bears. It's just a hilarious, like, Tom Brady juking out Brian Earl.

Speaker 1 I can over-insult stat you. Okay.

Speaker 1 But you're insulting yourself. Yeah, I know.
I know. But that's the point.
Like, you make the point yourself.

Speaker 1 Bailey Zappi had 300-plus yards, two-plus TDs, zero interceptions, and a win. The Bears have had that 12 times times in the history of their franchise.

Speaker 1 12 times. 12 times a quarterback has thrown for 300 plus yards, two plus T D's, zero interceptions, and a win.
That's not like a crazy bar to reach.

Speaker 5 I would just say, like, how many times have the Jaguars had a tight end that caught 300 yards

Speaker 5 touchdowns in a game in a win?

Speaker 1 So Trubisky. Probably never.
Trubisky did it twice in 2018. That was pretty cool.
Brian Hoyer, McCown. That was actually a great game.
I think it was the game against the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 And everyone's like, holy shit, Josh Cowan's the real deal.

Speaker 5 So, yeah, I'm officially rooting in this game. I'm on Big Cat's side because much like the Cowboys game, I live for other teams' quarterback controversies.

Speaker 5 That's what I get off on. Like, you guys are fucking perverts.
Listen to this show when our team suck.

Speaker 5 When I get to see, like, a real shitty quarterback controversy where the answer should be glaringly obvious, that's what I fucking love.

Speaker 1 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. This is.

Speaker 5 Yeah, Billy Zappi should be the quarterback of the New England Patriots.

Speaker 5 It's obvious to everybody that's watched the game.

Speaker 1 You said it yourself. More zip.

Speaker 1 He does have more zips.

Speaker 5 Do you watch the games? Yeah. Billy Zappi should be the quarterback.

Speaker 1 More zip.

Speaker 5 I'll be the first to say it. Billy Zappi should be the quarterback of that team.
I said this a year ago.

Speaker 1 Same. Yeah.
Let's just hope that, yeah, the Astros and Yankees have to go five games, and the Phillies and Padres have to go six.

Speaker 1 And then there will be two baseball games on Monday Night Football, which would be

Speaker 1 a lifesaver. A lifesaver for me.

Speaker 5 Especially if it's the Yankees, get a big market.

Speaker 1 Yeah, everyone's talking, I'll just, I might just, if the game goes bad, I'm either going to go PS5 tweet right away, or I might just live tweet base.

Speaker 5 Yeah, just do baseball days.

Speaker 7 The Yankees play game five. It's four o'clock Monday.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I know, but that leads into it. Yeah, that'll be two games, though.
So no matter what, there's yeah, come on. I mean, don't do this today.

Speaker 3 Isn't tonight the sports equinox?

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.
Cooking up a parlay as we speak.

Speaker 5 Yeah, sports equinox. That should be Russilla's new podcast name.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 The only two things he ever thinks about.

Speaker 1 All right. Where are we?

Speaker 3 I think. Did you give your over?

Speaker 1 I didn't give my over. I'm taking the over.

Speaker 5 Did Jake point it at me?

Speaker 1 No, you didn't give your over.

Speaker 5 I didn't get my over yet.

Speaker 1 Yeah, go for it.

Speaker 5 Commanders, Packers. We've talked about it enough.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I will take the Bengals, Falcons over 47.5. We've also talked about that game enough.
Billy.

Speaker 3 Lions, Cowboys over 49.

Speaker 5 That's a fun one.

Speaker 1 That is a fun one.

Speaker 3 You know, we talked about the Lions' high-powered offense, put up a lot of points. Cowboys, I don't think Dak's playing.

Speaker 1 No, he is. He is?

Speaker 5 We think he might.

Speaker 1 I think he is trending towards yes.

Speaker 3 Okay, that's good. Daks in, probably put up some points.
We'll see what happens. 49 also isn't a crazy overnumber, so we'll see what goes on.

Speaker 1 No, that isn't. If you have 17 and a half, you're still alive.
Yeah. The Glenny Balls method.
Jake, your favorite over.

Speaker 7 All right, I'm just catching up here. So PFT's number is 41.5 on Green Bay and Washington.

Speaker 5 That's so easy to be, isn't it? 41.5. Aaron Rodgers, Taylor Heineke.
No problem.

Speaker 1 That happens in the first half.

Speaker 7 Billy has 49. Yeah.
I have Kansas City, San Francisco over 48.5. half.
This is a Super Bowl rematch.

Speaker 7 I think the San Francisco offense has a chip on their shoulder, specifically Jimmy G from the Super Bowl. And the Chiefs, their offense wasn't clicking last week.

Speaker 1 I think they can put up a big number this week.

Speaker 5 Kyle Shanhan said that he watched the Super Bowl to prepare for this game. Yeah.
And I think maybe the first time he's gone back and watched it,

Speaker 5 a lot of bad feelings. I just would never, if I lost the Super Bowl, I would just, I would try to pretend like it never happened.

Speaker 1 Yeah, never in my life.

Speaker 5 The story this week about about the 49ers and the trade market that's out there for Christian McCaffrey is very interesting to me because we've always done the thing where we think and we imagine different quarterbacks in Kyle Shanahan's system and be like, oh, that'd be sweet if we got that guy in there.

Speaker 5 We never do that with running backs because,

Speaker 5 should we, though?

Speaker 1 No, we're not this time I'm saying. Yeah, this time we would be fun.

Speaker 5 So I got excited about it, but then I was like, wait a second, the beauty of Kyle Shanahan's system is you can put anybody in there, but

Speaker 5 what if you actually took a superstar

Speaker 5 and put him in that system? Would he be even better?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, that's why I'm like, well, let's do this.
I want to get this trade done.

Speaker 5 I would rather see McCaffrey on the 49ers than on the Bills just for this reason.

Speaker 1 Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 1 One other note about this game. Jimmy G is 14 and 6 straight up and 16 and 4 against the spread as an underdog.
That's pretty crazy.

Speaker 5 He's just a winner.

Speaker 1 He's a winner. But as an underdog, that's pretty crazy.

Speaker 1 Okay, Hank, let's finish up with our unders and then we'll hit any games we missed.

Speaker 1 Bears, Patriots, under.

Speaker 1 Bears aren't going to score.

Speaker 5 But Billy Zappi did.

Speaker 5 He might score in a half five on his own.

Speaker 1 There's nothing I can say against that.

Speaker 1 I mean, the Patriots don't really, you know, they're going to get a lead and then just run the clock out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, by the way, there was a funny picture that someone sent me where the Bears are as a franchise.

Speaker 1 On Sunday afternoon, so the Bears played Thursday night, Sunday afternoon, 1 o'clock. NFL's going on.
What do you think George McCasky was doing, the owner of the Bears?

Speaker 1 The president, whatever his official title is. What do you think he was doing? Playing pickleball.
Nope.

Speaker 5 He was mowing his own lawn. Nope.
Save a little bit of money. Nope.

Speaker 1 Munching box. He was

Speaker 1 a referee at a youth soccer game. I like that.
I swear he was.

Speaker 1 So, sure. Cool.
I think I actually am going to defend George in this. Watching the rest of the NFL is painful because it looks like a different sport.

Speaker 5 Yeah, and also,

Speaker 5 if you're in that position for a team, this is the one weekend that you have off where you get to do stuff like that. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Like, your wife is probably super mad at you every other weekend because you can't ever go hang out with the family. You got to take advantage.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Max, you're under.

Speaker 1 Panthers Bucks under. 40 and a half, I think.
Right. Okay.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Yes. Okay.
40 and a half. 40 and a half.

Speaker 5 The Bucks had a players-only meeting. So that tells me that I might be betting on the Bucs.

Speaker 5 I love a good players-only meeting.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and also the Bucs. I don't know if you saw the center because there's obviously a lot being made of Tom Brady yelling at his offensive lineman.

Speaker 1 Robert Hainsey, who is the center for the Bucs, said he loved it. He loved it.
He wanted him to yell at him. They were doing a bad job.
They're like, daddy yelled at us. We love that.

Speaker 1 He said, quote, I love that from him. I know we all love that from him.
It might look weird on TV, but that's football.

Speaker 1 That's what you want from great teammates and great leaders, and he's the best there is.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I think that's probably true.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. So they're cool with it.
They're cool with the undressing.

Speaker 1 Okay, your under, PFT.

Speaker 5 My under is Texans Raiders, 45.5.

Speaker 5 I don't see

Speaker 5 how this game gets above like 30. Yeah.
I think it's going to be ugly. It's going to be a gross game.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 And also, this is, like you mentioned earlier, probably not going to be on red zone that much. Nope.

Speaker 5 So it's a game that you can just, this is the perfect game to bet the under on because you don't feel like you're missing out on anything.

Speaker 1 Okay, my under is I'm going to have to it's going to have to be perfect ball, but Broncos Jets under 38.5.

Speaker 1 The Broncos are 5-1 to the under this year. Both defenses are very good.
The under at Mile High also, since 2015, is hitting at 64.5%.

Speaker 1 This is a tough one, though.

Speaker 1 When you get dipped below 40, you basically can't have a punt return or pick six or any weird plays to happen. So hold your nuts and under 38.5.

Speaker 1 Billy.

Speaker 3 I'm going Seahawks Chargers 51. I said this about the Seahawks game last week.
I thought they were going under. Chargers went under on Monday.

Speaker 3 I think these guys are going to be under.

Speaker 5 Okay. I think the Chargers' defense is good enough to force anybody to an under.

Speaker 5 And I also, I keep waiting for Geno Smith to, I guess, to stop writing me back. Yeah.
At some point, it's going to turn into a pumpkin, right? At some point, Geno Smith's going to

Speaker 5 re-become Geno Smith, but no, he just keeps fucking writing me letters. Yes.
Writing back non-stop.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and he's, yeah, he is him.

Speaker 1 The last under. I'm with Billy, under under 51.
Okay. So there's our picks.
Games we missed. The Browns and the Ravens are playing.

Speaker 1 Feels like the Ravens have to get right against a Browns team that's floundering. The Ravens, in their three losses, how many seconds do you think they've trailed for?

Speaker 5 I think they've trailed for 120 seconds.

Speaker 1 120 seconds. That's insane.
Yeah. 120 seconds.
They also, I think, have had a... I think the stat was they've had a double-digit lead in all their losses.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 I mean, it also sucks. Lamar just can't play in the fourth quarter for summer.

Speaker 1 He's been objectively awful in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 5 And it's not just flukes. He's been just playing like shit in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 5 So if they can somehow, I would just, I would say fuck it and just have Lamar run the football in the fourth quarter non-stop the entire time.

Speaker 5 He's made some bad mistakes passing it. Yes.
And so just get out to an early lead and then just try to suck the life out of him and not make any dumb mistakes.

Speaker 1 And then I'm happy that we, none of us had picked this game because it's the Colts and Titans, which should be a big game, but it also just, oh, yeah, the Colts and Titans are playing.

Speaker 1 Rables 4-0 against the Spread and straight up off a bye week.

Speaker 5 That was the only stat I had for that.

Speaker 1 Okay. I don't know.
If you have a strong opinion on this game, I call you a liar.

Speaker 5 Well, I think that if the Titans win this game, I'm ready to declare the Titans the winner of that division. Yes.

Speaker 1 If the Colts win, I might declare them. Yeah.
I don't know.

Speaker 5 I think if the Titans win, they'd have two in hand against the Colts, right?

Speaker 5 So I feel like that would make it really tough for the Colts to even try to come back against them as the season goes on. Yes.
So I'm ready. Whoever wins this game will win this division.

Speaker 5 How about that?

Speaker 1 You're ready to crown them champ. Yep.
I like that. I'm trying to see what other games we missed.
I think we hit everything. I have a return of Tua.
Yeah. So

Speaker 1 I have something about that game.

Speaker 1 In your head, everyone, close your eyes. Tell me

Speaker 1 your favorite memory. of the Miami Dolphins on Sunday night football.

Speaker 5 My favorite memory of the Miami Dolphins on Sunday night football. Call me crazy, but I think

Speaker 5 when the Chris Forrester offensive line cocaine story broke, was that during Sunday night football?

Speaker 1 I don't think it was.

Speaker 1 That would have been my favorite memory. Might have.
I might have been.

Speaker 1 I don't know when it broke.

Speaker 1 So I thought about this, right? I was thinking about going through all the games. I was like, huh, Dolphins on Sunday night football.
I looked it up.

Speaker 1 Since NBC took over Sunday Night Football in 2006, they've played two Sunday nights.

Speaker 1 Two. Lowest in the league.
Jaguars have two as well.

Speaker 1 It's actually funny because they played the first ever Sunday night football on NBC, but it was Thursday night football because it kicked off the season.

Speaker 1 It was Dante Culpepper, Nick Sabin versus Chaz Batch because Big Ben had gotten in his motorcycle accident. So they played 2006 on Thursday night.
2010, week three. Jets beat him 31-23.

Speaker 1 Chad Henney versus Mark Sanchez. And 2017, week nine against the Raiders.

Speaker 1 Raiders 27, Dolphins 24, Cutler versus Carr. They just don't ever get Sunday night football games.

Speaker 1 For perspective, the Dallas Cowboys have appeared on Sunday night football in the NBC era 56 times. 56 times the Dolphins have been on Sunday night football twice.

Speaker 1 And you might say, oh, flexes and everything. They've only been flexed out once.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I was going to say, I have memories off the top of my head from Thursday night. No.

Speaker 1 Monday night. They don't play.

Speaker 7 Cam Wake, Halloween, walk-off safety against the Bengals.

Speaker 1 They don't play Sunday night football

Speaker 1 game it was brady to i think welcome 99 yard touchdown yeah it's just crazy because i i was thinking about it i was like wait do they never play sunday night football because it just looked weird seeing them on the schedule sunday night football went to that jet game in 2010 but yeah they're never on it and it's it confirmed what i thought they have been played on true sunday night football game twice twice in the last 18 years like the jaguars i don't think the jaguars are two as well yeah so they're the bottom the two of them are the bottom about florida they just don't like sending people down to florida on summer nights

Speaker 1 But they don't have to be good because there's also other teams. I mean, the Bears have been on the night football 30 times.

Speaker 5 And the Jaguars had a couple good teams, too, like back in the late 2000s. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's crazy.

Speaker 1 It's just crazy to think about. Like, you can't think of any moment.
We also have the Brian Flores revenge game. He's on the Steelers coaching staff.

Speaker 1 And a little extra nice one is the Dolphins are wearing their throwbacks and doing a halftime presentation for the 72 undefeated team. That's 50-year anniversary.
Dolphins throwbacks are very cool.

Speaker 5 I haven't seen Mercury Morris out and about recently these days.

Speaker 1 Popping the champagne.

Speaker 5 So I just looked it up. October 8th, 2017 was the day that the Chris Forrester cocaine story broke during Sunday night football.
Okay, perfect. So that is my

Speaker 1 Sunday night with the Dolphins playing. It was another...
Yeah. So, yeah, enjoy it because you've only seen it.
It's like Haley's Comet.

Speaker 1 The Dolphins on Sunday Night Football.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay, before we get to fantasy

Speaker 1 Philly boys.

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Speaker 1 What are you going to say, Billy?

Speaker 5 For fantasy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 No, you can do it too. Yeah, we'll do it.
We'll all do it. Let's go.
Max can just grade us after. That would be good.
All right, Fantasy Philly boys.

Speaker 1 Eyo. Hey, Wooter.
That's the only word I know how to do it. Fuck, dude.
My name is Bryant Moreland.

Speaker 1 It's a Brian Morrison. Delco.
Delco.

Speaker 5 My stardom is Adonis Johnson. Adonis Johnson.

Speaker 5 Fucking Adonis.

Speaker 1 That's the name of the dude from fucking Creed. Creed 3 is coming out.
He's writing and directing. Yo.
Yo.

Speaker 1 Yo. Yo.

Speaker 5 Hope they got more ATVs in this one. He's Rocky in it.
My sitim.

Speaker 1 Probably. I think he died in the last one.
He's a dork.

Speaker 1 He's dead. He's a fucking dead.

Speaker 1 King of the fucking city.

Speaker 1 My sit him is pickleball. Yeah.
Kevin Durant invested in the pickleball league. Blue Rods invested in the pickleball league.
Tom Brady's invested in the Pickleball League.

Speaker 1 Have you fucking guys watched Pickleball?

Speaker 5 Pickleball is like tittets, right?

Speaker 1 It's way more boring.

Speaker 1 Way more boring. I'd rather watch fucking golf.

Speaker 1 I'd rather watch goth.

Speaker 5 It's a much better sport.

Speaker 1 Drink some water ice, water ice, and watch some goth. You drink water ice? Yeah, he'll call water ice cream.
Give me some water ice. Play some goth.

Speaker 1 My sleep is Zion Williamson. Yeah.
He's back all the way back, lost a bunch of weight. Boy, stop

Speaker 1 looking like a stud, beat that fucking dickhead Ben Simmons in Brooklyn last night. Boo! Boo! Comeback Player of the Year, I think.
Boo. Yeah, Zion.

Speaker 1 Yo, this is yo. Yo, yo.
What's up? Yo, this is Leonardo L'Angelo. What up, Leo? Yo,

Speaker 5 I'm starting the fucking New Orleans Pelicans.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Because, like, Zion, you said Zion.

Speaker 1 They got CJ.

Speaker 5 A funny little bird is a Pelican. His beak can hold more than his belly can.

Speaker 1 They can make all the plays if Zion puts down the Ben Yays, but I don't know how the hell he can.

Speaker 1 A lyric that I wrote about was was fucking pelican.

Speaker 5 Sitting James Frankley's a fucking joke. Yeah.
He's a fucking joke. I want to

Speaker 5 go.

Speaker 1 They never lose on whiteout, except all the time they lose to Ohio State.

Speaker 5 Raleigh Cooper's favorite night of the year. Yes.

Speaker 5 Yo, yo, I'm sleep. My sleep is Damian Pierce because feed Damien, yo.

Speaker 1 Yo. Feed fucking

Speaker 1 Damien. Fighting.

Speaker 1 Yo. Fighting.
Set. Fight.
Set.

Speaker 1 Yo. It's Frank Faroe.
Yo, Franco. Yo.

Speaker 5 Yo. Pray for times like this.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yo. Meek Mills, shout out.
My starter is Kyle Schwarber. Just hitting nukes.

Speaker 1 Nukes

Speaker 1 over the Punxata Tawny River.

Speaker 1 That would land in Wawa.

Speaker 1 What's the river? The Chesapeake. No, the Delaware, the Chesapeake, Punksatoni.

Speaker 5 The Poughkeepsie. The Pukeki.

Speaker 1 The Kipsy. We're hitting them everywhere.
Hit it at Delco. My sit him is Jay Wright, bro.
Fucking. You're still a good coach, bro.
Fucking. What fuck?

Speaker 1 He's fucking...

Speaker 1 My sleeper is part of my cheesesteak.

Speaker 1 That's a real Philly cheese steak, yo.

Speaker 1 Fuck Pats and Geeta's. Best cheese steak in South Philly.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 no pats, no Getos.

Speaker 1 We're going part of my cheesesteak, Chipotle,

Speaker 1 all day,

Speaker 1 every day. Go, Phil's.
Set. Set.
Set. I fucking.
Set. Fightings.
I fight. Talk about the fighting.
I fucking get part of my cheese.

Speaker 5 I say, give it it to me, Billy Style.

Speaker 1 Yes. Billy style, wiz, wit.
They make it like moderately hot, and then you bitch about it all. Say, yo,

Speaker 1 yo, this is Delco Danny.

Speaker 1 Yeah, what the fuck is up, bro? Belt wave. Bro, you delco Danny.
Bro, you play softball with my sister?

Speaker 1 I dang your sister. Oh, fuck, bro.

Speaker 1 Daddy, softball, bro.

Speaker 1 Bro, that was my brother. I don't have a sister.
Everybody, that's fucked up, bro. That's fucked up.
Love's love. Yeah, my stars also part of my cheese stick.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 way better than any other cheese steak. And my synem is giants, man.
Birds, birds, birds, birds. Don't birds.

Speaker 1 Birds. Birds.
Birds. Birds.
Birds. Dirty birds.
Dirty birds. Dirty birds.
Birds finished. Birds.
And my sleeper is Pennsylvania tobacco prices. Cheap, bro.
Cheap, bro.

Speaker 1 Cheap. No taxes.

Speaker 1 Cheap, bro. Yo.
All right. Liberty Bell.

Speaker 1 When I fucked that acid mutton. Max, how much did that hurt your soul? Meek Mill.
That was great. That was pretty much authentic Philly to its core for sure.

Speaker 5 Who had the best John?

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 Part of my cheesesteak. Part of my cheese.
Part of my cheesesteak. PFTs, you slip from Cali to British, back to Philly.
Yeah,

Speaker 5 it's a greenie. And a little bit of greenie thrown in there, too.

Speaker 1 All right. Before we get to Dan Heron, do we do...
What's our Mount Rushmore this week? Back to four. Let's go four.

Speaker 5 Yeah, yeah. Let's not overthink it, though.
Let's not overthink it.

Speaker 1 Let's get someone. Okay.
I'm going to go with Kenneth Walker, the third, Michigan State versus the Chargers. Ooh.

Speaker 1 Thoughts? Anyone?

Speaker 5 I'm going to go.

Speaker 5 I'm going to go with Derrick Henry.

Speaker 3 We were going to go with Derrick Henry. Our backup is now Brees.

Speaker 1 Yeah, here. I'll throw some other ones out there.
What about,

Speaker 1 what do you guys think about Kenny? Nick Chubb. Nick Chubb.
Okay, Nick Chubb. Nick Chubb.
Nick Chubb against the Ravens. All right.

Speaker 1 Let's get to.

Speaker 5 No, no, no. We want to give people a bunch of people.

Speaker 1 He's on a bye. He's on a bye.
He's on a bye.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but the bye week's getting butt-fucked. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 That'd be nice to have for like next week.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 let's get to Dan Heron, talk a little playoff baseball. Before we do that, PFC, you got a quick word.

Speaker 5 Yeah, can you imagine if Josh Allen hit against the bye week in the Mount Rushmore? The odds would be huge on that. Yeah.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on one of our favorite longtime recurring guests, future Hall of Famer, Dan Heron, here to talk some playoff baseball, and maybe also his Lakers sucking, which would be great.

Speaker 1 We'll get to that later. But Dan, first of all, great to see you.
Been a while.

Speaker 1 Why don't we start with this? Is the Division Series too short, and how did the Dodgers get screwed? That was a fun storyline that all baseball wanted to pick up on.

Speaker 2 I think the Division Series is too short, though.

Speaker 2 I don't understand why you play 162, and then it's got to be

Speaker 2 five games. I think the better team would win out more often in a seven-game series.

Speaker 5 Why not make it nine games, or why not make it 11 or 13? Like, where do you draw that? I like the idea of a shortened series because there's a difference between

Speaker 5 playing baseball in a long season, playing baseball to win one game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 2 I don't know. I don't know your point.

Speaker 5 I'm saying it's fun. It adds some chaos.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 2 you know, all the 100-win teams pretty much got knocked out. I mean,

Speaker 2 it's just the base, it's just proven that the baseball playoffs seem so random when, you know, anything could happen in a short series. And

Speaker 2 I don't know, the four teams left, it's pretty interesting. I mean, I think the Astros probably the best team by far

Speaker 2 of the final four.

Speaker 1 I like the randomness of playoff baseball. It is kind of cruel that the Dodgers season ended like that, but I'm like,

Speaker 1 they were up 1-0 in the series, and then they lost three in a row. Like, they had their pitching set up.
The Padres were at a disadvantage.

Speaker 1 They got all the things that you should get for winning that many games. Why also be like, all right, now they have to play seven games, or now the Padres get all the games at home.

Speaker 1 Or, sorry, the Dodgers. Like, it's just the sometimes playoff baseball is whichever team gets hot at the right time.

Speaker 2 You sound like a guy that's maybe have you won money? Have you been gambling?

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 no.

Speaker 1 No, I had nothing to do with it. I actually missed the, I, literally, the

Speaker 1 college football was so crazy that Saturday, I forgot the game was on. I woke up the next day and I was like, oh, the Dodgers are out.
That's kind of funny.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no,

Speaker 2 you're right, though. I mean, the Dodgers had it 1-0.
They had their pitching set up. It's just, you know, it's the randomness of baseball.

Speaker 2 You can get, you know, a couple walks and a blooper and the game changes. And

Speaker 2 I think the bullpins, too, have just proven to be so important in these games.

Speaker 2 It seems like, you know, all these teams have guys coming in and throwing 100 miles an hour. Yeah.

Speaker 2 The common denominator.

Speaker 5 I feel like back, you know, 10, 20 years ago, if there was ever a bullpen game, it was like a hold on to your shit game where like, let's see if we can scrape by.

Speaker 5 Now I feel like bullpen games, they can be an advantage to a team that's got a good pitching staff.

Speaker 2 Yeah, if you're, if you're super deep in the bullpen, yeah, it is an advantage.

Speaker 2 A couple of teams left, I mean, even the Yankees, I mean, you know, starters are going to get pulled two times through the order. And the Yankees guy last night was throwing all right.
He got pulled.

Speaker 2 But, you know, Tyler Anderson got pulled a little early in that last Dodger game. He's just, he never,

Speaker 2 it's kind of, you know, it's hard to let the pitcher go unless because the bullpins are so good. So you don't want to get the, you know, once you get two times through the lineup, it seems like

Speaker 2 the pitchers had it.

Speaker 1 Do you think the Yankees, like the big, we have a lot of Yankee fans in this office, and they always complain about Aaron Boone.

Speaker 1 And everything I understand, he's essentially just following a game script. Do you think that there's not enough enough like gut feel when it comes to the managers in October?

Speaker 1 Like, hey, like you said, like he was the Yankees starter Tyone was pitching pretty well. Let's fucking keep him out there.
Why not?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 2 there could be something to like overthinking things. But, you know, when it comes down to it, there's a lot that goes into the baseball and into the game before the game.

Speaker 2 So, you know, all the situations are

Speaker 2 brought up. If this happens, if that happens, if we're up by this many, if we're down by this many, what are we going to do? So

Speaker 2 they are scripted, kind of, but

Speaker 2 you know, when it comes down to it, the manager's got to make the decision, and you know, it's not like the GM's calling down or anything. So

Speaker 2 I don't know. I mean, I like watching the starting pitchers that go 100-plus pitches with Darvish and Verlander, those guys.
It's been fun to watch. Kind of old school there.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Is it an advantage for the pitchers in the playoffs because you have more time to scout like one single opponent and you don't have to worry about

Speaker 2 no I don't I think it's the opposite I mean it's it's so hard facing a team twice in a series

Speaker 2 I mean you know and with these like especially that Dodgers Padre series you you can face in the same division you can face the same team six times during the year and then you have to face them twice more in the postseason it's it's tough and you know you start you start thinking okay how did I get this guy what does he hit and you start eliminating pitches and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 I think it's an advantage for the hitter.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's interesting. I didn't think of it that way.

Speaker 1 I want to talk about a specific uh home run and a perspective from the pitcher's side kyle schwarber hit an absolute nuke against the padres in game one 488 feet i love kyle schwerber forever is there when a when you give up a home run like that when it's that hard hit and it's that far gone Does it hurt more?

Speaker 1 Like, does it hurt your psyche more as a pitcher? Or are you like, ah, whatever. It's like

Speaker 1 one bad, you know, pitch. It's okay.
I'll get the next one.

Speaker 2 I think I think it's the opposite too on that is like I'd rather a guy hit an absolute rocket out of the stadium where I know off the bat it's gone Whereas if you know if a guy if the if the outfielder is going back for a fly ball and you can see him timing it and he jumps and it barely goes out barely goes out, you know Okay.

Speaker 2 When I was pitching when a guy would hit like a what a flyball down the line and it was close to being a homer and close to not, I would always watch the batter.

Speaker 2 I never wanted to watch the ball because I felt like if you watch the batter, you can tell if he thinks it's fair or foul.

Speaker 2 And you could just kind of see him leaning and you could, you could see the second where he loses hope that it's going foul. And it's a good thing.
So I always liked watching the batter.

Speaker 1 Okay, so that's a good perspective because I like the way that Kyle Schwerbert hit that ball, I was thinking about the pitcher being like, well, fuck, like that was...

Speaker 1 It was 120 exit velocity. It was just absolutely pissed on.

Speaker 1 But you're saying, and I guess I understand the perspective: like, I'd rather have that than like a cheapie or a pitch where it's like, oh, if I had just gotten it a little bit farther inside, it wouldn't have been out.

Speaker 1 And he just barely got it out.

Speaker 2 Exactly. Oh, you give up a cheap, like in Yankee Stadium, a flyball right field that just barely goes in the front row.
Those are heartbreakers. The 480-foot moon ball, that's okay.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I can handle that. What about like in the Guardians Yankees series when Naylor did the Rock the Baby and the too short and the Pedro Serrano, I Have Marbles, that whole thing.

Speaker 5 If a batter did that to you, well, first of all, have you ever been stunted on like that in a game?

Speaker 2 Not that hard. That was over the top.
Yeah. I mean, that's one where your own team is probably thinking, Jesus, like, stop.

Speaker 1 Please stop. Yeah.
You know?

Speaker 2 Because

Speaker 2 that was pretty brutal.

Speaker 2 No, I mean, you know, the game's changed. That's fine.

Speaker 2 You know, I'm not a huge fan of all that. I know we want to have fun and all, but I thought that the timing of it was pretty weird, just being down by a few runs.

Speaker 2 You know, it was over the top for me.

Speaker 5 Yeah, if somebody does that to you in a playoff game, like how it must be hard for a pitcher to keep their composure and to not want to just drill that guy the next time I'm playing.

Speaker 2 It's very hard. It's really hard.
I remember, you know, when I was pitching against your Cubs, big cat,

Speaker 2 I remember a guy, I was with the Marlins, Junior Lake. Yeah.
His name was Junior. You remember Junior Lake?

Speaker 1 He was a legend for like a month and a half.

Speaker 2 Well, in that month and a half, he pimped a fucking Homer off me so hard.

Speaker 2 So fucking hard. And I was mad.
His own team was mad at him when he was running around the bases. Well, you know what I do?

Speaker 2 Instead of hitting Junior Lake, I hit another player because then I because then Junior Lake actually feels bad about it. So I think Starlin Castro came up and I drilled Starlin Castro.

Speaker 2 And I was pointing the that's that was for him. So, you know, so that maybe it causes like a kind of an issue in the clubhouse, you know, yeah, that's what I was saying

Speaker 2 playing mind games, yeah, I feel like it's like hitting, I should have just hit multiple people

Speaker 1 besides Josh So you could hit Jose Ramirez

Speaker 2 Josh Naylor, and then you then you hit Oscar Gonzalez and you hit the fight, like you just you start making Naylor feel bad.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I

Speaker 5 was saying when he did that, I would hate to be Naylor's teammate because you have to answer for what he did.

Speaker 5 Like, I would actually be pissed off even before I got up to bat because I'd be like, now I'm going to wear one in my rib cage because of you.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Exactly. Yeah.
And you just got to be thinking, like, it's going to look so bad if we lose. And then now you lost.
And I mean, I know that he's saying now that

Speaker 2 it was

Speaker 2 flattering that they're doing that, but there's no way. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He knows that he got cleaned up. No, that, and the way they lost, and then having all the fans do it back to him, it's brutal.

Speaker 1 Speaking of hitting batters,

Speaker 1 my guy, Anthony Rizzo in the ALCS, how annoying is it to pitch to a guy like that? Because he not only crowds the plate, but he also just has no problem getting hit.

Speaker 1 Like, he just eats pitches, and it doesn't affect him.

Speaker 2 He doesn't move out of the way.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's the thing.

Speaker 2 It's like,

Speaker 2 you know, from a righty, you're throwing a lot of breaking balls to him. And if they're coming toward him, they're going to be going at his back foot, and he just doesn't move.
So he gets hit so much.

Speaker 2 And he's so on top of the plate.

Speaker 2 When he's doing his big leg kick, I mean, his knee is actually over the white of the plate it's it's a very uncomfortable feeling because then if you're pitching outside if you're going on the outside corner that's like down the middle to him right so then you're forced to pitch him inside but then if you pitch him inside you drill him so it's tough it's a it's a mind game for sure i love when he gets like two strikes and he has he chokes up so hard and he's so far in and you're just like it looks so awkward that i i would assume most pitchers are like this just doesn't feel right like everything about this doesn't feel right

Speaker 2 no it doesn't it's It's a very uncomfortable feeling for a pitcher. It's just a tough visual.
Yeah. It's tough looking at the plate, and he's so right on top of it.

Speaker 2 You feel like there's nowhere to go.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So it's, yeah, it's tough.

Speaker 5 Who would you rather pitch to in the playoffs? Jose Altuve or Aaron Judge?

Speaker 2 Oh, man.

Speaker 2 I would say probably Altuve right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Smaller strikes over here.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it is. You got to set your sights a little low.

Speaker 2 But no, he's struggled a little bit out too many this postseason, but he's been, you know,

Speaker 2 he's a tough one. We faced the Astros a couple times this year with Arizona, and it was tough.
I will say this. I want to say this before we go too much further: is that

Speaker 2 I wanted to bring it up at the beginning, but this big cat.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So

Speaker 2 you texted me saying that you want me to come on the show. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So then I went back and I looked at my texts from you.

Speaker 2 So my last text to you was on

Speaker 2 January 30th, I believe.

Speaker 1 My birthday.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 it was me excited that you guys were coming to LA for the Super Bowl. Oh, no.
And then I said,

Speaker 2 you asked if I was going to come hang out, and I said, yes. And then you said, fuck yes.

Speaker 2 Then the next text is July. Yeah.

Speaker 2 The next text was from me. So I was just thinking to myself, you know, and then you text me, wanting me to come on PMT.

Speaker 2 you you've turned into the you you've turned into the friend that everybody has yeah everybody everybody has this friend i know that when they text you you know they want something from you no i that's i don't want to be that guy but okay so that's you are that fair point you you are that guy fair you are that guy i have other i have other friends that are like this every time i get the text from okay i'm not going to say his name i'm like oh what does he want me to do oh he wants me to do a

Speaker 1 camp or a pitching clinic for this guy because it's always something it's never hey let's go get a beer hey this this you know it's always oh can i get this can i help okay can you donate to this okay you're that guy two things two things one i take that for real because i do consider you a friend i'm putting jake please put that jake is gonna put in the calendar to text you randomly in two months time just being like what's up so that we can we can get back on the same page second

Speaker 1 Your last text me January 30th. That was my birthday and you didn't say happy birthday.
Ah, okay. You're flipping this one on me.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying you texted me on January 30th, not saying happy birthday, asking if I was coming to L.A. instead.

Speaker 2 Do you know when my birthday is?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Don't look at your freezing. No, wait, you're freezing.
You're freezing, Dan. You're frozen.

Speaker 5 And you're frozen. September 17th.

Speaker 1 September 17th. I want to say 1980.

Speaker 1 Age 42?

Speaker 1 And you're back. You're back.
You're not frozen anymore.

Speaker 5 In Monterey Park, California, right?

Speaker 1 That's right. Wow, yeah.
All right. Hey, listen.

Speaker 1 You gave me the scouting report. I'm going to work on it.
Like, I got to be better. I got to be a better friend.

Speaker 1 Are you going to be in Arizona for the Super Bowl this year?

Speaker 2 Probably, yeah.

Speaker 1 Fuck yes. Let's hang out.

Speaker 2 Okay, now we'll see. I'll get a text in six months now.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Fuck yes. Let's hang out.
Well, how are your dogs doing?

Speaker 2 Dog.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Remember, Bernie? Oh, that was bad by me.
Bernie. Yes.
RIP Bernie. I thought maybe you got.

Speaker 2 Wait, I don't know when the last time I

Speaker 2 came on this.

Speaker 2 So did I tell you about my other pug that got attacked too?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 5 No, there's another one that got attacked. So get this one.

Speaker 2 So we go. So

Speaker 2 I leave the house and

Speaker 2 my wife said that Tucker, my dog, who I adopted Tucker when I was on the Cubs, by the way. Okay.
I probably said that before, but he's a black pug.

Speaker 2 So she let him out because he was barking to get out at night. And it was like 6.30, 7 o'clock, like sunset.
So

Speaker 2 she, about five minutes later, she said that Tucker ran back to the door and was scratching to get in. Tucker, she let Tucker in.
He had bite marks on the top of his head and on the bottom.

Speaker 2 A fucking coyote had his head in his mouth.

Speaker 2 He had a hole. He had a hole on top of his head.

Speaker 2 And so he was gushing blood. I took him to the thing and they're just like, yeah, for sure, a coyote.
But somehow he got away.

Speaker 1 I don't know how he got away.

Speaker 2 And I mean,

Speaker 2 we never never leave the dogs outside

Speaker 2 because of what happened. And it was just like two minutes and fucking coyote got his ass.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 he's got the dog in him.

Speaker 2 He does have the dog.

Speaker 1 Yes, he does.

Speaker 1 Well, the coyote had the dog. Yeah, that too.

Speaker 5 That was a problem. How do we defend your house? Have we figured out how to like...

Speaker 5 We need to do something to step up your coyote defense system because whatever game plan we're running right now, it's not working.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 No, it's not.

Speaker 2 They could jump pretty high. So it's, yeah, we gotta make the gauge higher.
We usually just keep them out in the, we have like a courtyard that you can't get through, but yeah, it's it's crazy, man.

Speaker 1 Hey, I actually feel really bad about this texting. Did I mention I have two kids now?

Speaker 1 No. Yeah, so I'm pretty busy.
Whatever, that's fine. And it was my birthday.
I had three kids, though.

Speaker 1 I had three. Fuck.
All right. That was

Speaker 1 just a mess. No, you just got dunked on.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 your defense for what I'm trying to do right now is a lot better than your coyote defense. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's fine. Okay, wait.
I had two more baseball questions.

Speaker 1 Then I want to talk about the Lakers because you did send me a meme the other day that was very funny, and I knew that it was you watching the Lakers game one and being like,

Speaker 1 this is going to suck again. But

Speaker 2 do you see how I send you a meme? Just like, hey, this is a funny meme.

Speaker 1 Hey,

Speaker 1 look at this meme.

Speaker 2 Big cat, can I get a

Speaker 1 stumped in?

Speaker 1 That was a good meme. That was a good meme.
It's Anthony Davis in a wheelchair, Russell Westbrook

Speaker 1 shooting a brick, and LeBron James. Yeah, LeBron James looking like he's 80 years old.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of memes.

Speaker 2 There's a lot of like.

Speaker 2 I like the one with

Speaker 2 Russell

Speaker 2 with Westbrook wearing a Russell Wilson jersey saying, let's ride.

Speaker 1 That one's good. It's going to be a long season for the Lakers.

Speaker 1 Who's the scariest batter left right now?

Speaker 2 It has to be Stanton, right?

Speaker 1 You think so, or is it your?

Speaker 2 You know what?

Speaker 2 Oh, Albert, I think from a from a scouting, because you know, I've been, I still do the stuff with the Diamondbacks. And from a, we've faced Jordan this year.

Speaker 2 He was, he's the best hitter I've ever had to advance scout.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 2 I'm talking about covering all the pitches, hitting lefties, everything. He's the best hitter I've ever had to had to scout.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. And you've scouted a lot, you know, Mike Trout, all these guys, and he is the best.
Why is he the best?

Speaker 2 He covers everything. So like when you're facing a hitter, like, when I'm trying to advance scout, I'm looking at weaknesses of hitters and trying to match it to a pitcher's strength.
And

Speaker 2 there's just not very many weaknesses with him. He covers everything in any count.

Speaker 2 It's really impressive.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He is a beast. And he's another one where it's like, you know, a hitter's great when there's something about them when they're in the box.
You're like, damage is about to be done.

Speaker 1 There's just way these guys stand in the box versus like the eighth or ninth hitter. Absolutely.
And you see it and you're like, this is

Speaker 1 going to be bad if you miss one pitch.

Speaker 2 And, you know, who has that stance is Stanton. He has a stance where he's like super closed off.
Yep.

Speaker 2 So like it, and I told you that I think I've told you this on other podcasts, but I faced Stanton a couple times. He got me once or twice.

Speaker 2 I always preferred pitching Stanton inside because you throw outside. You better be ready for a fucking rocket back at your face.
But if it's inside, he's going to turn on it at least.

Speaker 5 He's going to pull it get it out of there you know who was like that was gary sheffield every time he would step into the box it's like this guy's about to fuck everybody up yeah yeah yeah and he would he the like he had that bat wiggle and he would be right on top of the plate and he would you would throw it inside and he'd pull it over the third base dugout just like you have no fucking chance yeah quickest quickest hands in the game i think um we always we always say like uh anytime somebody does something or comes back from something like still got your fastball did you have an actual moment where you were like, I've still got my fastball?

Speaker 2 When I was playing?

Speaker 5 Yeah, like, did you, did you maybe think that you were starting to lose a couple miles per hour and you went out there and struck some dude out? And you're like, yep, still got my fastball.

Speaker 2 No, no, not especially.

Speaker 2 I remember the times where I was worried about my fastball would be like spring training when you haven't seen a radar gun reading in a few months, you know, and you're like, fuck, I wonder how it's coming out.

Speaker 2 And then I would always tell, like, if, if it was, if I thought the radar would be low, I'd always tell the pitching coach, like, I don't want to see it. I don't want to see it.

Speaker 2 I don't want to see my reading. You know, I don't want to see how hard I was throwing.

Speaker 2 But then when everyone was gone, I would go, you know, go back and check and be like, oh, shit, it wasn't coming out very, very hot.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Do you think that radar guns and having every single pitch charted on a radar gun has had any like detrimental effect on pitching?

Speaker 2 Probably, yeah. I mean, but the thing is, there was like a, you know, there, there's been a fascination or a session with like spin and,

Speaker 2 you know, now with the like the sticky stuff has been gone, it's, it's more, I think, I think like the, like I said earlier in the podcast, it just seems like the velocity just seems like you want to, all these bullpens, the guys throwing 100, 101 miles an hour.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 that's kind of, you know, I think we've gone away from the spin and it just seems like the VLO is so important now.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. So who do you have winning the World Series? I know we're

Speaker 1 Houston. Easy?

Speaker 2 Easy.

Speaker 1 Easy.

Speaker 1 Easy. Okay, do you think they're cheating?

Speaker 2 They're the most complete team left. I mean,

Speaker 2 Philly has the worst bullpen left in the playoffs. San Diego, I like, but I think their offense isn't, you know, toward the bottom of the lineup is not.
that great and

Speaker 2 bullpen's been solid. Yankees, bullpen struggles a little bit.

Speaker 2 They're hurt. I think the Astros are in the best position.

Speaker 5 If the Yankees can't get past the Astros, should we be calling for Aaron Boone's head?

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 It's crazy how, you know, it's crazy how we blame managers. And like,

Speaker 2 like Rob Thompson, no, I mean, I've never met Rob Thompson. I'm sure he's a great manager or whatever, but like.
The Phillies turn it around and it's like, oh, Rob Thompson is a genius.

Speaker 2 I mean, you know, they turned turned it around. They're in the NLCS.
They're going to go to the World Series, maybe. But, I mean, it's, it's all the players.
And it's, you know,

Speaker 2 they were pretty stacked. I know they were underperforming, but, you know, as soon as they, and as soon as they fired Girardi, they got they got pretty hot.
But I don't know.

Speaker 2 I'd have to give the players a lot of credit on that.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 But, I mean, so many people have been saying World Series are bust. World Series are bust for the Yankees.

Speaker 5 It seems like we're losing the meaning of the word bust if we don't, if we don't even even have the discussion.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 2 they had a great year. I mean,

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 2 I think like a season that the Mets had where you have such high hopes and you eliminate it so quick, that's a little tougher.

Speaker 2 I mean, the Yankees, they're a little banged up right now, too, so they got that going for them. But

Speaker 2 yeah, I think the Astros by far the best team.

Speaker 5 So in Dan Heron's world, would you have just the top two teams from each league league play each other in the World Series? And that's it?

Speaker 2 That's in a best of 17?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Well, let's call it best of 15.

Speaker 1 Compromise. Best of 15.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 So whoever has the best record in each American and national league, they just play?

Speaker 1 Yeah, Dodgers Astros.

Speaker 2 Dodgers Astros 15 games? Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's what you want.

Speaker 2 That's what I want. Yep.

Speaker 1 Or just

Speaker 5 one long game, and it's like first to 100. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Ooh, that'd be cool. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Cricket. Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 1 All right. I had one last.

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Speaker 1 All right, so we're manalytics, not analytics on this podcast. Momentum is very much real in playoff baseball, is it not?

Speaker 2 Yes, it is.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 a team like the Phillies, who might not be the most talented team, if they're compared to the Astros or the Dodgers, whatever, if they're our producer, Max is just shaking his head anytime we say anything even remote.

Speaker 1 Like you said, the Phillies don't have a super strong bullpen, and he's just shaking his head like, fuck this guy. And it's like, he's just stating facts, but that's neither here.
Max, go ahead.

Speaker 1 Tell me how it's wrong. I have much of,

Speaker 5 I disagree with a lot of what he said about the Phillies.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 Rob Thompson's been fantastic. How can you, like, how can you look at what Rob Thompson has done and say that he has nothing to do with that?

Speaker 2 Well, I'm sure you know because you've played, right?

Speaker 1 Oh, Rob,

Speaker 1 I did play Division I baseball. Yep, two home runs for Hofstra.
I'll say that. Hofstra, two home runs? Three home runs.
Three home runs. I was the Matt Stairs of the CAA.
Everyone's saying it.

Speaker 1 But what about when the players are saying that it's all credit to Rob Thompson because of the way that he has prepared the team? Like,

Speaker 1 I understand that you're saying it's about the players on the field, but what about when the players on the field are saying it's Rob Thompson?

Speaker 2 They're saying what you have to say. You have to say the politically correct thing.
Yes, of course.

Speaker 1 But doesn't it matter what a manager does to a locker room?

Speaker 1 Like a locker room is everything. And if a manager can get a team together, then that is credit to a manager.

Speaker 5 Dan, you're not counting vibes into all your well baseball is vibes.

Speaker 1 All baseball is so much vibes. He's a Philly guy, so he literally wants to fight.

Speaker 2 Now I want the Phillies to lose.

Speaker 1 But all right, so back to what I was saying, like it did feel, I know they lost game two, but it felt like the Phillies were that team where everything was going well at the same time and everything was clicking at the same time.

Speaker 1 And momentum is like everything in baseball, I feel like. I know everyone says, oh, momentum is just your next day's starting pitcher.
I don't buy it in playoff baseball.

Speaker 1 If guys are swinging bats well, it just kind of rolls into the next day.

Speaker 2 I think it does too. And you could feel it as a player, you can feel it just like when it's turning.
You know,

Speaker 2 a couple things happen and the player, you could, just on, on, you know, if a couple good things are happening, say yesterday, you know, Padres string a couple of hits together or walk and the players can feel it on the field.

Speaker 2 So, you know, it's tough. It's, it's tough to reverse that.
You need a big, like, you know, that's why it's so important with the bullpen and, you know, like shutdown innings, stuff like that.

Speaker 2 It's just so important to try to kill that momentum because, yeah, things can get, you know, rolling off the hinges hinges quick.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 I just want to read out loud a couple more Lakers memes to you just verbally, if that's okay.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 5 So there's one that says dreams and it's Carmelo and LeBron James. And then underneath it, it says reality and it's Anthony Lynn and Carlos Boozer.
I thought that was a pretty good one.

Speaker 5 There's another one that says don't be a fan, or excuse me, if you weren't a fan when we were down by 30, don't be a fan when we're only down by 20.

Speaker 5 I thought that was kind of good. And then the last one that I saw that I laughed at was it's LeBron with his arm on Westbrook's shoulder.
And LeBron's wearing his Lakers jersey number six.

Speaker 5 Westbrook's wearing his Lakers jersey number zero. And then it circled the six for LeBron and said rings lost.
And then it circled the zero for Westbrook and said rings won.

Speaker 5 I thought that was cool, too.

Speaker 1 Nice.

Speaker 5 Just some good internet stuff here.

Speaker 2 Yeah. No, the meme game for the Lakers season is just beginning.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah, yes.
All right. Well, Dan, thank you as always.
We love having you on.

Speaker 1 I've taken the notes and I'm going back to the drawing board.

Speaker 1 You're going to be pissed how much I text you.

Speaker 2 Okay. We'll see about that.

Speaker 1 Yeah. No, we will see about that.

Speaker 2 But are you going to, what are you going to be texting? You're going to be texting me. You need, like, you need something?

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no. I'm going to be like, hey,

Speaker 1 hopping on the, I'm just going to send you all the texts I would send my wife. I'm like, hopping on the train now, be home in 15.
Whoops. Sorry.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just all that. I think you got to send me a dude.
Yeah. I'll send you a nude.
Yeah, I'm going to send you everything.

Speaker 2 No, let's not do that.

Speaker 1 All right. All right, Dan.
Thanks so much, man. We'll see you later.

Speaker 2 All right, fellas.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on recurring guests, friend of the program.

Speaker 1 It is Max Verstapen and Sergio Perez off of...

Speaker 1 Can I say the Constructor's Cup? You guys have won the Constructor's Cup. Can I say that?

Speaker 11 Not yet. Not yet.

Speaker 1 We will. I wanted to try to get you guys.
Yeah, I wanted to get you to say that you did. I'm opening right now.
You probably can see. You guys sent us a box.
I think it was personally from you.

Speaker 1 Oh, and it's a box that actually just says congrats on the Constructor's Cup. So you guys, good job.

Speaker 11 I didn't agree on that sending that to you guys, but yeah.

Speaker 5 It's a plaque that we can hang up in the studio to commemorate it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's Red Bull Austin. So that's where you guys have the race coming up.
Oh, nice. Look at this.
Red Bull racing. I have a box for PFT as well.
All right. So last we talked to you.

Speaker 11 You do have to pay for the delivery fees, by the way.

Speaker 1 Yes. Oh, look.
You wrote a personal note to us, too.

Speaker 1 Last we talked to you guys was the beginning of the season. I will say, Max, you obviously won the championship.
How weird is it,

Speaker 1 or is it better than last year when you won dramatically in the last race? Was it better this year, like wrapping it all up with a lot of races left?

Speaker 11 I think both are nice I know I just think that you know the the year we had last year it's not good to repeat that very often

Speaker 5 but yeah this year has been been really enjoyable and in a way it's nice because I can enjoy my food a little bit more probably yeah but do you miss like the the competitiveness going down to the very end do you miss that thrill of it's due or die time you better show up this time or else you're gonna lose

Speaker 11 no I mean to be honest you go into every race weekend and you want to do the best you can anyway right Like, I mean, you need to get the best results for the team as well.

Speaker 11 We know that we still need to win the constructors as well. So that doesn't really change.

Speaker 1 So Cheko, you are currently second. How we got to hold on to the second place, right? Like, we got to go 1-2 for the season.
There's, what, four or five races left?

Speaker 1 Like, is there any pressure that you're feeling? Like, this would be a historic year if we go 1-2.

Speaker 11 Yeah, it would be great for the team, you know, to get the Constructors, the championship and and a one two at the end will be an amazing an amazing year there is four races to go so a lot still can happen so yeah we will we will try our best okay

Speaker 5 can you guarantee that you will try your best

Speaker 5 i can guarantee that i think okay wow guarantee and your best would be that would result in you finishing in second place right

Speaker 11 yeah Yeah, I cannot take any more points away from Max now. So, yeah, he's got the championship.

Speaker 11 And yet, pretty much the best I can do is to finish second.

Speaker 5 Yeah, have you guys, have you guys gotten to go out at all in Austin, Texas? Have you explored the city of Austin yet?

Speaker 11 Well, I mean, I only arrived yesterday evening, so not yet, but it's a really cool place.

Speaker 5 I want to give you guys recommendations for a good tacos. If you want to go out in Austin and get a good taco dinner, go to Tyson's Tacos.
There won't be a line there.

Speaker 5 Not that many people know about it, but it'll be some of the best tacos you'll ever have in your life. Get the Krispy Duck Taco.
I invented that one. I put that one on the menu there.

Speaker 11 Okay. Okay.
All right.

Speaker 1 Good. You won't regret it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 What I was going to say is Daniel Ricardo, every year he does your former teammate, Max.

Speaker 1 Your former teammate. Was he your teammate too, Sergio?

Speaker 1 It's been a while since I've watched Drive to Survive.

Speaker 1 Okay, so your teammate in spirit, Max's teammate for real, he always goes all out for the Texas Grand Prix and he's wearing the hat.

Speaker 1 He's He's on a horse. You guys got to one-up him.
You got to do everything.

Speaker 1 Like I want to see you guys go all out and steal his shine because it feels like he's trying to one-up you guys and you guys are in the lead.

Speaker 11 It's tough. I mean, Daniel really embraces.
I think he's actually born in the U.S. Maybe here, even in Austin, actually.
He's not born in Perth in Australia. So that's just a big cover-up.

Speaker 1 But yeah,

Speaker 11 he loves it. And yeah, I remember when he was my teammate as well, he was always super excited you know, to come back here.

Speaker 5 Do you think that deep down he wants to be a NASCAR driver?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 11 I mean, it would suit him. He would love it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 I think

Speaker 5 he wants to be the Australian Dale Earnhardt. And I think he'd probably be pretty good at it.

Speaker 5 I saw that, you know, he's like, he's obviously a giant Buffalo Bills fan. He likes American football.
And when you guys were in Miami, they had you put the American football helmets on.

Speaker 5 Have you guys figured out what team you're going to support in the NFL?

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 11 I find that really tricky, to be honest. I just support the winner.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's smart.

Speaker 1 That's smart. Checko,

Speaker 1 how are we feeling about Mexico and the World Cup coming up? Are you going to go to some of those games?

Speaker 11 Yeah, I'm definitely. You know, we're going to be in Abu Dhabi

Speaker 11 when the World Cup kicks out. So, yeah, we will try to go and watch some games

Speaker 11 to support Mexico.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Are you going to the World Cup?

Speaker 11 Oh, I need to see when they're playing, actually.

Speaker 11 But I think it's a bit.

Speaker 11 I think they're playing on Tuesday. Well, for me, Holland is playing on Tuesday when we are testing.
So I think that's going to be a little bit tough. But

Speaker 11 yeah, who knows? I mean, there might be some other games we can go to that would be. I mean, it's not that far away anyway.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You guys got to get into it.

Speaker 1 I love whatever. I mean, the World Cup's the best, and the Mexican fans and the Dutch fans, it feels like they go all out and go crazy.

Speaker 1 You guys want to root for U.S.? Maybe we'll root for you guys, and you root for us. Like, we'll do a truce right now.

Speaker 11 I mean, I'll root for you guys in the group stages, and then it's done anyway. So I can go back to supporting Holland.

Speaker 5 That's messed up. That's messed up.

Speaker 1 We're going to beat England.

Speaker 5 England stinks. They always choke in big moments.
You know that.

Speaker 1 And I'll just say for the record, I will never support Mexico in the World Cup.

Speaker 1 Yeah, our group is very difficult. You guys are in just jokes of groups.

Speaker 1 Mexico's Wisconsin's Poland, Argentina, and Saudi Arabia. And then you, Max, you got, they put you in.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you, yeah, you, you, you're playing Senegal, Ecuador, and Qatar, which, like, do they even have a team?

Speaker 1 They just give them, they just give them the World Cup, and then you get an automatic team. If you don't advance, that's probably the biggest disappointment in the history of sports.

Speaker 5 Sports, yeah, and sports.

Speaker 1 Mankind. Yeah, mankind, yes.
Well, actually,

Speaker 1 if you guys blew the Constructors' Cup this year with the lead you have, that would probably be it, right?

Speaker 11 That would come close, yeah.

Speaker 3 But that won't happen.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, no, you're, you guys guaranteed it. So, officially.

Speaker 5 So, so, with the second, you get your second world championship in a row, like, is this, are you guys forming a dynasty right now? Is that what's happening?

Speaker 5 Are we are we witnessing the birth of a 10-year dynasty for Red Bull?

Speaker 11 Well, I mean, that would be great, but it's not that simple, of course, but of course, we are at the start of a new era with the cars as well.

Speaker 11 So I really hope that, you know, we can be competitive for a while. And yeah, it's all about, of course, also keeping all the good people together, right? It's a whole team effort.

Speaker 11 And, you know, also with our powertrains coming along, it's really looking great for the future. But we have to, you know, keep pushing.
And I know.

Speaker 11 And we know as a team as well, you know, we have been in a position where we were just not good enough.

Speaker 11 And, you know, we kept on working hard to try and be in the position of winning, and we are in that now, so we have to try and just keep it up.

Speaker 1 So, for fans like me who got into the sport with Drive to Survive, can you guys give us a little like hints of how this next season is going to be? Are you guys, Checo, are you featured in it?

Speaker 1 Are you, did we get the cameras on you? Because I know Max said he didn't want the cameras on him last year, so we never got to see him.

Speaker 2 Um, that's Netflix, I have to say that.

Speaker 11 I did an interview this time, so you'll get to see me.

Speaker 1 Okay, and what about you, Checo? Do we get

Speaker 1 Do we get some storylines about you?

Speaker 1 Checko?

Speaker 11 Yeah, well, I think, I hope there will be something in it about me because, yeah, I've done quite a lot for them. So it will be,

Speaker 11 I think we're going to be on it a bit, so we'll see.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 What about your boss, Christian Horner? Has he

Speaker 1 with the season? He's going to be more than us. Yeah, I know.
He's always on it.

Speaker 1 He's got... Last year, I think he had the beautiful tan that was ready for day one of filming.
But you can agree,

Speaker 5 he does that to take the pressure off you guys. Yeah, right.
Not because he loves having the cameras on him all the time and he thinks he's a real pretty guy, right?

Speaker 11 He's a great supporter. He takes all the

Speaker 11 pressure from us.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Has he, with the season, the way it's been going, it's been fantastic for both of you.
And congratulations again.

Speaker 1 Has he stopped complaining as much about like Toto and everyone else?

Speaker 11 Yeah, well, there was not much to complain about. They've never really been in our waters.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, that's okay. I like that.
I like that.

Speaker 5 Do you think that makes him angry, though? Because things are going so well that he doesn't have anything to complain about and he doesn't have everything to be angry about.

Speaker 11 No, it's good.

Speaker 11 It's been, this is what we want. Absolutely.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Have you asked him about finding the perfect toilet before every race to pee in? Because as he shared,

Speaker 11 yeah, we found that one in Japan.

Speaker 11 It's called Toto.

Speaker 1 So basically, you just sit on Toto and drop something on Toto.

Speaker 1 I'm very excited for Drive to Survive.

Speaker 1 And I, you know, the way they film it and like getting behind the scenes and all the intensity. You guys have to be, at the end of the season, like, is there a month or two where you just...

Speaker 1 don't do any type of racing talk or any type of racing um anything because it's just so much pressure week in and week out

Speaker 11 two months is probably a bit much

Speaker 11 you never get two months. I try to at least have like two weeks fully, let's say, off from racing.

Speaker 11 Because, you know, of course, when the season finishes, we still have quite a few things to do for the team

Speaker 11 and sponsors in general. And then, of course, in January, like quite early on, you need to start training and preparing for the season ahead.

Speaker 1 Do you guys go like, Checo, do you go like extra slow for that two weeks off? I would like be like, just like, I'm not going to go fast on anything I do. Just move slow, drive slow, just try to relax.

Speaker 11 Yeah, I really, those two weeks are the ones that you can really relax, you know, because when we have the summer break, you have to still train up because the season is carrying, you know, you're going to continue with the season.

Speaker 11 So now, getting these two weeks, it's going to be great. You know, you can eat whatever you want.
You can wake up at any time you want, dehydrate, dehydrate a bit as well.

Speaker 1 Yeah. How's the golf game right now, Checo?

Speaker 11 It only gets better

Speaker 11 in December. I'm going to play a lot, you know, I'm going to be playing every day.

Speaker 1 Oh, I love that.

Speaker 5 I'm curious if they gave you guys flashcards so that you can tell the difference between Paolo Bancaro and Patrick Mahomes this time.

Speaker 5 I know that there was some confusion about some of the celebrities. Are they letting you know which American celebrities will be attending so you can make sure that you know their names?

Speaker 11 Difficult because there are so many on the grid, it's like a zoo.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it is crazy. It is in the Miami

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 1 whole scene when they were bouncing around, and you had, I mean, there was, I think it's because Drive to Survive and the fact that we don't have more than you know, one or two races in America a year.

Speaker 1 Everyone wanted to go out, and Miami's a party city. It was very funny watching you guys.

Speaker 1 It would probably be like us going over to Mexico or Netherlands and meeting celebrities there and being like, we don't know who you are.

Speaker 1 yeah yeah

Speaker 11 but I guess that's normal right um that you don't really recognize everyone um

Speaker 11 because I mean there are so many invited but I think it's good for the sport in general you know that people from other sports also come over and that's the same what we do sometimes you know when we are around in in certain countries you know we try to you know get involved a little bit with you know the sports which are popular in that that respective country.

Speaker 1 Okay, so pop quiz, how many football or basketball players can you name from America?

Speaker 1 Let's see how deep we can.

Speaker 11 Footballers, quite a few.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 11 Basketballers, a bit less.

Speaker 1 So give us a couple. Just say, you know, say some names.

Speaker 11 Christianese.

Speaker 11 American football.

Speaker 1 Name one name.

Speaker 11 I mean, of course we cannot forget Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 Okay, there we go.

Speaker 11 We don't have information here. Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 This is great.

Speaker 11 I'm really sorry, I just never really follow it.

Speaker 1 Josh Allen.

Speaker 5 Tim Tebow.

Speaker 1 Josh Allen is a good one. O.J.
Simpson.

Speaker 1 Wow. Okay.

Speaker 1 He did play football.

Speaker 5 Max, I've got, this might be a dumb question, so forgive me, but what's the difference between Holland and the Netherlands?

Speaker 11 Well, I mean, I just call it Holland, but of course you actually have to say the Netherlands because Holland can also be like a province,

Speaker 11 like a state, basically, you know, in Holland, but

Speaker 11 the Netherlands. But it doesn't really matter.
I mean, it's the same thing.

Speaker 5 Okay, so the Netherlands includes Holland inside of it.

Speaker 11 Well, the Netherlands is the country, yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 11 But I just find it a bit annoying to say, so I always just say Holland. Holland.

Speaker 1 Okay. That makes sense.
That makes sense. What, um...

Speaker 11 Like, officially, you have to say the Netherlands, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What, um, I know we're not jinxing it in the Constructors' Cup, you still need to win it. You got some work to still be done, but is there like a big party that gets planned?

Speaker 1 Is it, you know, in traditional, obviously American sports, you see the locker room, they're just dousing each other, then they go out and they party.

Speaker 1 Do you guys have that chance to, once you actually clinch the whole thing?

Speaker 11 I mean, it would be nice being here in Austin. I mean, then the Sunday night

Speaker 11 can be quite good, I think.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. I mean, you got to.
Do you get what is it?

Speaker 1 What's the trophy? The actual trophy?

Speaker 11 It's a cup.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 11 And, of course, a bit more money. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. The cup, as long as you have a cup that you can drink out of, it's fun.
Like, that makes every trophy should be a cup. That works.
Yeah. So you can get loaded off of it.

Speaker 5 Yeah. So what's, I guess here's another dumb question for you guys.
What's your favorite car?

Speaker 5 Not race car, just like all-time car. It could be a convertible, could be a pickup truck.

Speaker 11 Well, I would always go for like

Speaker 11 a bit of speed, but also space, you know, because if you have a two-seater, yeah, okay, it's great. It looks nice,

Speaker 11 it drives well, but if you are with friends and family, you know, it's better to have a

Speaker 11 bit more space. I would always go probably for like an SUV.

Speaker 9 A Ford Bronco.

Speaker 11 bronco like yeah sticking with a theme yeah a pickup should go for a pickup yeah in monaco it would be easy to park oh yeah that would be amazing around there yeah yeah no daniel ricardo is gonna pull up and he probably tried to race in a pickup truck yeah today but he has i think he has a raptor oh i think he does

Speaker 11 driving it i saw him driving it in la so yeah

Speaker 1 All right, I have one last question.

Speaker 1 You guys don't know a lot about professional football, so this is actually perfect because we do know a lot about it and we watch it endlessly and then we gamble on it and we lose all our money because we think we're experts so I

Speaker 1 want to give you a game just say which team I should bet on and I'm going to bet on that on Sunday Colts versus Titans

Speaker 1 no

Speaker 1 Colts versus Titans who do you what's your pick

Speaker 11 Titans

Speaker 11 it's easier to pronounce

Speaker 1 done now I'm literally gonna put I'm gonna put real money on this it's the Checo lock of the week also sponsored by Max Verstapen, and I'm going to bet this money.

Speaker 11 You can split it. You can just split it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'll split it. That's fine.

Speaker 5 What about how many points do you think? Between one and 100 points, how many points do you think they'll score in that game?

Speaker 5 Max, you can answer this one.

Speaker 11 I think it's going to be quite a low score.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 11 Just because of the defense.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, I got it.
Okay.

Speaker 5 So Titans and the under.

Speaker 1 I love it. All right.
We're betting it. So

Speaker 1 next time you guys come on before next season, we'll let you know. We'll either send you a bill for the loss or if we win,

Speaker 1 well, we'll probably have already spent the money.

Speaker 1 But you know, you'll have the satisfaction.

Speaker 11 That's a good comment.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Winners win. All right.
Well, thank you guys. Best of luck this weekend.

Speaker 1 Always appreciate you coming on. And yeah, let's have you back on before next season.

Speaker 11 All right. Good.
Great to catch up, guys.

Speaker 5 Okay, let's wrap up the show.

Speaker 1 Thanks to Max and Checo coming back on. A little F1 talk.

Speaker 1 Fire Fest of the Week. And then we'll do numbers.
Hank, have you ever gotten it?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Can I go last?

Speaker 5 You can go last? Do you want to go last?

Speaker 1 With your Fire Fest? Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 5 You want to go then? Where are you going last, Hank?

Speaker 1 Don't worry about it.

Speaker 5 Uh-oh. Oh, this sounds bad.

Speaker 1 You have AIDS?

Speaker 5 No. No.
Okay. This sounds really bad.

Speaker 5 My Fire Fest of the Week is that winter kind of snuck up on me. Yeah.
And

Speaker 5 I feel like we only got maybe two weeks of the crisp autumn air feel. And it just went straight into like I woke up the other morning and I was cold.
I was cold right off the bat.

Speaker 5 And then I started thinking to myself,

Speaker 5 you know that feeling that you get at the start of wintertime when you're like, this is going to stink for four and a half months. Yes.

Speaker 5 And I got that feeling and it put me in a real bad mood for the rest of the day.

Speaker 5 My winter cycle goes through. I get happy on that first snow and I'm like, oh, this is kind of cool.
I love a good snowstorm. And then it just, everything is shit from that point out.

Speaker 5 But I felt that first little bit of winter time the other morning. And I thought to myself, like, I didn't even get to enjoy the season in between the seasons.

Speaker 5 And now we're changing the clocks and all that. And it's just, it came on too strong this year.
I just, I would like to request, just give me two more weeks of fall. Two more weeks.

Speaker 1 I feel like we got a little fall still left in us.

Speaker 5 And I love winter just because I can wear sweatshirts. And

Speaker 1 I'm a fat person, so it's nice.

Speaker 3 a great coach once told me shout out Coach Wataka never let the day of the week or the weather affect your mood oh that's but that person is how is it how is weather absolutely affects moods no no no but and

Speaker 1 yeah yeah yeah but you don't like a rainy Monday versus sunny Friday I would actually say like the two man two weeks if you don't let it affect your mood picture

Speaker 1 you're gonna be swell you're right I wouldn't I might be swell I will say this moving to Chicago obviously we are moving to Chicago and every time I talk to people about it like I'm moving moving to Chicago, and they're like, oh, the winners are brutal.

Speaker 1 And I'm always like, I grew up in Massachusetts. Winters fucking sucked there.
We've lived in New York. Winters suck here.

Speaker 1 I don't see it being a problem. The way I describe it is there's.
Like, yeah, winners suck, but winters suck. Like, what PFD said, this winter's going to suck.
No, no, winter sucks no matter what.

Speaker 1 In Chicago, there'll be like a two-week stretch where it will be like...

Speaker 1 Five degrees. That sucks.
And then also. But it's like I'm going outside when it's 30 degrees and like frolicking in the snow.

Speaker 5 You got to step up your frolic game because that's actually pretty fun to do.

Speaker 1 There is the feeling like there'll be a random snow cold day in like late March, early April, and you're like, enough already. Yeah.
But other than that, it's pretty similar.

Speaker 5 The aftershock of snow always gets me. Yeah.
That late one.

Speaker 1 And you get the like nice, you get like a nice stretch in early March. You're like, we made it.
And then it's like, nope, just kidding. It's winter still.

Speaker 5 In a big city, the worst part about winter, I think, is the piles of gray snow that start in like early December and they just don't go anywhere until like mid-March.

Speaker 5 And you've got the slushy-ass gray snow that will be there until pretty much the NCAA tournament.

Speaker 3 I would actually come back to something, I'd be hyped about a rainy Monday because that ensures that the humidity gets out of the sky for the weekend.

Speaker 1 So rainy Monday.

Speaker 5 I'm always bitching on like a Wednesday if it's still mad when the humidity is still from the weekend.

Speaker 5 Well, that's how rain happens.

Speaker 1 Right,

Speaker 3 so a rainy Monday, you should be hyped for.

Speaker 3 Because that means a sunny weekend instead of a rainy weekend.

Speaker 5 Well, let's embrace debate. What do you think is the best combination of weather slash day of the week possible?

Speaker 1 Saturday. Sunny.

Speaker 5 But wait, Billy, your coach told you not to let weather or day of the week affect your mood, so you should say all of them are the same.

Speaker 1 Right. Checkmate.
But my mood,

Speaker 5 you got checkmated.

Speaker 1 Yeah, your mood, because yeah, weather does affect mood.

Speaker 3 But just for more activities, mood's the same, but activities are different. I don't fun activities.

Speaker 5 I don't mind a cloudy Thursday. Cloudy Thursdays are okay.

Speaker 1 But like a beautiful, crisp fall Friday and Saturday. Oh, my God.

Speaker 5 I would say a crisp, like a 60-degree sunny Saturday.

Speaker 1 No cloud in the sky. Oh,

Speaker 1 nothing better. All right, my fire vest is.

Speaker 1 We have the best job in the world, but this is the point of the football season where I'm like starting to tap my head for the oxygen because I'm starting to get very, very tired.

Speaker 1 And you know when you get, I know you go through this 2PFT where it's tired, where like your brain actually won't turn back on.

Speaker 1 Like I went home last night and I watched the entire Yankees Astros game and the Bulls game.

Speaker 1 I couldn't tell you one play for either because my brain was so off that I wasn't even like, I wasn't even absorbing any of the information.

Speaker 5 Yeah, there's some certain days where

Speaker 5 you just look ahead in the schedule and you're already tired and you see like three, four days, five days down the line, and you just think to yourself, I'm going to be, I'm going to be tired consistently for the next week.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's no break.

Speaker 5 And then I finally get one day off.

Speaker 1 And I've looked at that schedule and the break is Thanksgiving. Yeah.
That's tough.

Speaker 5 Yeah, and I'm going to be going to Qatar for that. So I'm tired.

Speaker 1 But again, I'm not complaining. It's just my Firefest.
My brain has stopped working at times.

Speaker 5 Just like talk to us in February. Yeah, right, right.

Speaker 1 Okay, Billy, your Fire Fest?

Speaker 5 So this one's pretty annoying.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 I have a vehicle, and this vehicle...

Speaker 5 Why do you always

Speaker 5 make things mysterious that don't need to be mysterious? You have a car. Yes.

Speaker 1 Truck. You want to see what kind of car?

Speaker 1 This is going where I hope it's going.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's fucking annoying.

Speaker 1 So the vehicle. The truck.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I've had it for a long time.

Speaker 3 I've had it for a long time.

Speaker 5 As an individual, I do pay for it.

Speaker 1 It was pre-owned.

Speaker 3 It was pre-owned by a guy. It was one of my, you know, one of my prouder purchases up until this moment.

Speaker 3 It's been going well, but all of a sudden, it's got this thing where every time you stop, it do go to a full stop, the engine turns off.

Speaker 1 Oh, something's green.

Speaker 3 Right, it's green. Something that to meet emissions requirements.
Yeah, Libby football. The thing about that is in all trucks from a certain year have been getting it to meet emissions requirements.

Speaker 3 The thing is, the car has to turn off and start back up again.

Speaker 3 And if people know like the more miles you get on a truck the more times you start a truck the engines has got to turn over yeah and to start and sometimes it gets to a point where it doesn't start turning over this is not a problem if you're have it in your driveway and your car doesn't have to start up in the middle of say an intersection or dangerous places for your car to not be able to move.

Speaker 3 So it was happening a couple times where my car wasn't starting up for about like, you know, a couple seconds after shutting off.

Speaker 3 And, you know, let's say you're at a stoplight, you're at some random stop sign, not a big deal.

Speaker 3 It happened to me in a busy ass intersection, and I couldn't get the truck back started.

Speaker 3 And it was like people were beeping at me. It was a whole ordeal.
Everyone was like, What the fuck? Why are you just fucking stopping the road? Turn the hazards on. Everybody's yelling at me.

Speaker 3 Fucking driving. I look like an asshole.
I totally understand I'm an asshole. And I'm pissed because

Speaker 3 that new, like, the the fucking the trucks aren't built to like they optimize the truck to turn off when you came to a full stop but we don't have the technology to ensure that the car can start up again and again to the amount that this new eco requirements has done yeah and putting people like myself in danger like I could have been hit by like an 18 wheeler in that moment AOC almost killed me yeah so yeah exactly so I'm pissed so Billy and I the thing was fire is taking my truck to get the starter checked out at auto zone when it happened.

Speaker 3 And the starter would have been an easy fix, but it turns out it's not even the starter. The starter and the battery were fine.

Speaker 5 If there was only some sponsor that we had on Part of My Take,

Speaker 5 that might be listening to Billy's Fire Fest. And by the way, he's totally not asking

Speaker 5 for a truck from Chevy Silverado Park. Why not? If you hypothetically were a sponsor of Part of My Take and you were a truck manufacturer, I'm sure Billy would want to take a look at it.

Speaker 3 I don't want a truck because that's way too hard to do.

Speaker 1 It'd be a real shame if a truck fell off the truck.

Speaker 1 Exactly. I'm not asking for a truck.

Speaker 5 I was actually going to ask Chevy to give you a free truck, but I don't want to figure out.

Speaker 5 For the record, I don't want to hand out. Billy will not accept your free truck.

Speaker 3 But shout out to the guys on Billy's list who helped me out. Try to check the starter out.

Speaker 5 Appreciate it. Wait, did you like jailbreak your car?

Speaker 3 I jailbreaked my car.

Speaker 1 Hell yes.

Speaker 5 I did. It was sick.
Hell yeah.

Speaker 3 I turned off the auto turn off,

Speaker 3 but I've still sent it in to get checked out. What's your name is? It just wasn't starting.

Speaker 5 Greta Thurston or whatever is going to show up. Greta Thunberg.
Thunder's going to show up and slash your tires. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Come at me.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Your firefest.

Speaker 5 You'd walk away from Rebellion.

Speaker 7 Yeah,

Speaker 7 the last week, this intra-podcast beef has got me really uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 The video of Jake on the couch.

Speaker 1 Oh, so good. It's great.
So good.

Speaker 7 So hopefully it comes to an end. But tune into PM TV.
It's out by the time you're listening to this to see how everything unfolded.

Speaker 1 Listen, people watch draw,

Speaker 1 you know, Real Housewives, Real World, all these things. Yeah.
It sells. Yeah,

Speaker 5 this is actually very similar to Real Housewives. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Exactly. Well, this is all scripted.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah, so it's real. Yeah.
It's Real House Whites.

Speaker 1 That was the best part of it is that Billy on Thursday was like,

Speaker 1 we should fake you and PFT getting in a fight. And they're like, well, why would we fake any, like, let's not fake it because people will see it.
And then we got in a huge fight with Billy after.

Speaker 1 Yeah, also,

Speaker 5 if you've ever seen us try to act at anything,

Speaker 1 we can't fake anything.

Speaker 5 In fact, I think every time we're asked to act in whether it's a commercial or whatever shoot that we're doing, the joke always just becomes, okay, we're just going to be so bad at acting that it'll be funny.

Speaker 1 Correct, correct.

Speaker 1 Okay, Hank, I'm nervous for what you're going to say. No, I just couldn't think of one.
Oh. Oh,

Speaker 1 you played that off pretty well. Usually the last is usually like, oh, yes, you know, someone died.
Well, yeah, Billy said basketball, but there wasn't really a Firefest.

Speaker 1 Me and Billy are on a team, basketball team, but we won, dominated.

Speaker 1 That's pretty awesome. Billy, if I had to describe, we have a solid team.
Everyone Everyone knows I'm an absolute fucking lethal shooter. Not much of a defensive player.

Speaker 1 More of a one-way, more of a one-way type of player. Billy's game is exactly how you would expect it to be.
I didn't know what to expect. I know he's been balling, but he's very physical.

Speaker 1 He's quick, athletic.

Speaker 1 Rebounder. Rebounder, jumper, shoots line drives.
Like, I've never seen a person shoot as straight as he does. But he's a great player.
It's like literally exactly.

Speaker 1 Sometimes you're like, is this going to be, is Billy going to be finesse, athletic? It's like exactly what you would expect. It's kind of

Speaker 1 just like, he'll, he'll take the ball, drive through the lane, and then throw it off the backboard.

Speaker 1 But, like, and then he'll get his rebound three times.

Speaker 5 Yeah, whatever the opposite of the handshake meme is, like Billy's personal life versus Billy's basketball game, being a straight shooter.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes, always.

Speaker 1 Sweet. Okay.

Speaker 1 Hank, your firefest is you've never gotten the number.

Speaker 1 I think that's a fire fest. I think that's a festival.
That's an ongoing fire fest.

Speaker 5 Your fire fest is that you have you don't have $5,000 from either.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And I think it's like kind of fucked up.

Speaker 1 It takes people time. Okay.

Speaker 5 I do feel bad sometimes. Like, we're making Hank our circus motherfuckers.
Like, if you're

Speaker 1 putting this entire ping-pong ball machine up to make him look bad. Like, what if, like, you know.
It's a theory against us. It's just like, yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah. It's like NBA rigged.
It's like we've got the frozen envelope.

Speaker 1 This is all fake. No, it's like, it takes some time.
Like, it takes, like,

Speaker 1 I used to be in a class where, like, you know, you had to learn your states and capitals, and if you don't learn, you can't advance, and it took me forever. And it's like.
You're talking about school?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay.
All right, your number.

Speaker 1 16.

Speaker 5 I'll go 62. I'm going to go 17.

Speaker 1 A.J. Elmendinger.

Speaker 1 Max?

Speaker 5 Jake? 20.

Speaker 1 18.

Speaker 1 Hank, I'm rooting for you. Thank you.
I'm not. I'm not.

Speaker 1 Fuck you. Hank,

Speaker 5 pick 16, Hank.

Speaker 1 I'm going to spread my wings.

Speaker 5 That's a stupid number. 69!

Speaker 1 Oh!

Speaker 1 Oh, Billy and the champ. Good job, Billy.

Speaker 1 Face, Hank.

Speaker 1 And your face. Good job.

Speaker 1 I want to kiss it. Good job, Billy.
That's so cool. Wow, he's got it like five times, Hank.
Nice. He's never gotten it.
You know what, Philly? I'm going to give you some money. Nice.

Speaker 1 We'll give you some money. Yeah, I'm proud of you.
This is amazing. I'm going to give you some money.
How many times is that for you?

Speaker 3 I think this is like six.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 5 Is Billy football bad for the lottery? He's too handy.

Speaker 1 That sucks. Nice.
Good job, Billy. Way to pick the number right.
You got a skill that Hank does not possess.

Speaker 5 Oh, Hank, what's your comment on Billy just being a fucking wagon? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, this is, this is, I'm rubbing the

Speaker 1 skipped into it. Everyone knows he's fucking taking L's left and right, and you guys felt bad and wanted to give him a win.

Speaker 1 That's right.

Speaker 1 All right. Enjoy your charity.
See everyone Monday.

Speaker 3 I won at basketball last night, so it reverts all the L's. Love you guys.
Sometimes humans get angry irrationally when other things make happen.

Speaker 1 It's supposed to be animal facts, Billy.

Speaker 3 Humans are animals.

Speaker 1 Oh, he got you

Speaker 1 They're mammals.

Speaker 1 They're mammals. Humans are mammals.
Mammals seek to be animals. All mammals are animals.
No.

Speaker 1 I'll be coming for your love, okay?

Speaker 1 Shy it away.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'll be coming for your love, okay.

Speaker 1 Needless to say,

Speaker 1 I've upset it.

Speaker 1 But I'll be somewhere in a way.

Speaker 1 Slowly learning that life is okay.

Speaker 1 Say up to me.

Speaker 1 Life's so better to be safe than sorry.

Speaker 1 Say up to me.

Speaker 1 Life's so better to be safe than sorry.

Speaker 1 Things like the same

Speaker 1 live on.

Speaker 1 Just to blame my worries away.

Speaker 1 You are the things I've got to remember

Speaker 1 Be a shy and away

Speaker 1 Love me coming for you anyway

Speaker 1 Be a shy and away

Speaker 1 Love me coming for you anyway

Speaker 1 I'll

Speaker 1 go

Speaker 1 Drink on drink.

Speaker 1 Drink on me. Dave.

Speaker 1 Drink on me.

Speaker 1 I

Speaker 1 think

Speaker 1 you come.

Speaker 1 Drink