Ryan Fitzpatrick In Studio, Russell Wilson Returns To Seattle + A New Segment 1 Question With A QB

2h 17m

Russell Wilson goes back to Seattle to boos and we talk about MNF and Nathaniel Hackett panicking down the stretch (00:02:11-00:18:59). Geno Smith got written off but maybe for good reason (00:18:59-00:23:54). Cleaning up stories from Sunday (00:23:54-00:33:22). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Robert Saleh taking receipts on Jets haters (00:33:22-00:53:15). Ryan Fitzpatrick joins us in studio to talk about the end of his career, transition to media, the importance of locker room cohesiveness and tons more (00:53:15-01:39:55). We introduce a new segment that was supposed to be Inside The Talking Boot but we changed on the fly to simply we call a Quarterback and ask them 1 question (01:39:55-01:58:59). We finish up with guys on chicks (01:58:59-02:15:17).


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Speaker 1 On today's Pardon My Take, we have our good friend Ryan Fitzpatrick in studio getting ready for his debut on Prime for Thursday Night Football coming up. Chargers Chiefs.
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Speaker 1 We're going to recap Monday night football. We're going to do a little hot seat, cool throne, clean up anything from Sunday.
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Speaker 1 Today is Wednesday, September 14th.

Speaker 1 And Nathaniel Hackett, oh no, no, baby. We should have given him some more advice on how to use timeouts.

Speaker 3 I think we did give him maybe too much advice on field goals at the end of games. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I think that got in his brain because didn't we ask him a couple times like, hey, don't you love kicking field goals at the end of games? We were reinforcing what happened in the Green Bay game.

Speaker 3 And it turns out we just made him like subconsciously fall back in love with kicking field goals.

Speaker 1 I also should say he did end up using the timeout. So if you missed Monday night football, it was an awesome game.
It was an awesome game.

Speaker 1 We had Russell Wilson's return to Seattle. We had Joe Buck and Troy Aikman in the Monday night football booth.

Speaker 1 Side note: it took like two minutes for me to be like, Yeah, this feels completely normal. Like, when it first started and you saw Joe Buck on a Monday night, I was like, Ooh, this is weird.

Speaker 1 And then two minutes into the game, I was like, Oh, yeah, these guys are the best in the business.

Speaker 3 I was confused at first because they have daytime voices to me.

Speaker 3 It's not so much like the day of the week, Monday, it's that I'm so used to Joe Buck and Troy Aikman being on in the afternoon, maybe like a twilight, a dusk voice. Yeah.

Speaker 3 But getting it started like at 8 p.m., Joe Buck pops on my TV. I got confused.
I was like, what is this baseball?

Speaker 3 But yeah, I mean, they've got big game voices and they work together well as a team. It was great.
I did watch some of the Manning Cast a little bit last night, too.

Speaker 3 They just need to stop having guests on, I think. They're way better when it's just them making.
It's basically 90% Eli being like, hey, Peyton, you've got a big head.

Speaker 3 And then Peyton being like, yeah, Eli, you look like a turkey when your mouth's open all the time. That's the stuff that I like.

Speaker 3 I don't need Joel McHale on the screen talking about whatever project he's working on.

Speaker 1 He also was talking about Peyton's big head. Yeah, but he was roasting his forehead.

Speaker 3 But that was after Eli had already set it up at that point.

Speaker 1 It's better.

Speaker 3 It's easier when your brother's telling you you have a big head. When it's Joel McHale saying it, it's like you're making fun of someone who's outside the circle of trust.

Speaker 1 I did not watch the Manning Cast at all. I think Joe and Troy kind of erased them.
I'll watch them if it's a blowout.

Speaker 1 But like Joe Buck and Troy Aikman, I just love being able to sit down on a Monday night football game because we don't have to record after and just enjoying the game.

Speaker 1 And, Jake, you're going to like this. I made a little note.
Joe Buck, why I consider him one of the best in the biz, because I do think that

Speaker 1 there's not many people who hate Joe Buck anymore. It's really like it's an antiquated take.
It's a lot of people, like, if you say that online, people are like, dude, you're kind of wrong.

Speaker 1 You could say he roots against your team. That's fine.
But in terms of like big game voices and being a consummate pro, he's up there with everyone, like the Al Michaels,

Speaker 1 you know, Fowler Herb Street booth. But Joe Buck, credit to Joe Buck, this is why he's the best in the biz.
Russell Wilson comes out, first drive,

Speaker 1 crazy booze. Lays out.

Speaker 1 Does not say, Joe Buck did not say a single word until after the play was over.

Speaker 1 I felt like I was in the stadium. It was, those are the little things that were so awesome when he does that, where it's like, just let the game speak for itself.

Speaker 1 And it was such a cool moment to just, because they were thundering booze on Russell Wilson.

Speaker 3 I was surprised at the booze. And we had talked about this last week going into this game.
And you asked me, like, do you think the Seattle crowd is going to boom?

Speaker 3 I said, no, there's no chance that they boo him. He's Russell Wilson.
They're the Seahawks. He took them to two Super Bowls, 1-1.

Speaker 3 This is their God.

Speaker 3 They will revere him for the rest of history. And then he comes out there, they boo the shit out of him.

Speaker 3 And you tweeted out last night, like, yeah, I think you were saying that if the Chicago Bears had a quarterback half as good as Russell, you'd cheer him for forever.

Speaker 1 I'd hug him. I'd embrace him.

Speaker 3 Anything. I would do the same if the Commanders ever had a quarterback like that.
Hank, as

Speaker 1 a loser yourself,

Speaker 3 you saw what happened when Tom Brady came back to the Patriots. You guys embraced him.
You're like, thank you, Tom, for everything that you've done. We're losers without you.
We'll always be losers.

Speaker 3 Now that you're gone, we're losers again. Thanks, Tom, for temporarily making us feel...
feel like winners.

Speaker 1 That's how I would feel.

Speaker 3 That's how I would feel too if we had Russell Wilson. So I was surprised that they made that.

Speaker 1 So I was a little bit surprised, but then I thought about it more. I think if this game took place at any point other than this year and especially week one, it might be a little different.

Speaker 1 So if Russell Wilson plays for eight more years and he comes back to Seattle at the end of his career, I think they will cheer him. I think it's just so raw.

Speaker 1 And so like, dude, you, you, we know what you did. You can pretend that like this wasn't what you wanted.
Remember, Russ would always say, I want to be here long-term.

Speaker 1 It's like, well, and we would make the point, if you want to be here long-term,

Speaker 1 you will be there long-term because you're the quarterback. You can decide that.
And just on the flip side, he decided he didn't want to be there long term.

Speaker 1 So the rawness of it, the fact that it was week one, I think that if it happens, like I said, eight years from now, or let's even say Russ goes somewhere else and he plays in Seattle in four years from now, I think they might be a little bit more receptive to him and be like, hey, that was cool when you won us the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I've got to take about the Seahawks, about the players themselves not having Russ Wilson around anymore.

Speaker 1 I think they're kind of relieved. Oh, dude.

Speaker 3 I think that it's like a weight off their shoulders, not having to worry about like plugging Russ in in the locker room, making sure that his software is up to date, all that shit.

Speaker 1 Make sure a shower that he takes, he has his own bathroom.

Speaker 3 Does he have his own bathroom?

Speaker 1 We're going to get to that with Ryan Fitzpatrick. Remember, he alluded to something like that?

Speaker 3 That's right.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Interesting. Great energy.

Speaker 1 I've forgotten about that, actually.

Speaker 3 But with his teammates in Seattle, it's got to be a pain in the dick. I understand that Russell Wilson is a great player.
He made the team competitive for 10 years.

Speaker 3 And to a certain extent, you have to pretend to like a guy like that when he's in the locker room. Trust me, I know, like, I play on a trivia team with Brandon Walker.

Speaker 3 I get how to deal with annoying people.

Speaker 1 But I play on a trivia team with Stephen Che.

Speaker 3 There you go. So once a guy like that leaves, the weight off your shoulders is just enormous.
And now you're like, oh, shit, Geno Smith is a normal person. He's kind of fun.
He's my boy.

Speaker 3 Let's go out there. Let's have fun.

Speaker 1 So all week I was going to bet on the Broncos minus six and a half and I saw Russell Wilson show up in that tuxedo and like the

Speaker 1 switch in my brain completely flipped. And I was like, wait, we've been talking about this as a revenge game for Russell Wilson.

Speaker 1 This is far more of a revenge game for all of the Seahawks who probably were sick of his shit. And they were flying around.
Like

Speaker 1 first half, again, thanks to Jules for preseason matters because we all hammered first quarter Seahawks. The Broncos looked disjointed to start the game.
The Seahawks looked sharp.

Speaker 1 They basically were like, Geno can give us one good half and then we have to hold on. And that strategy worked.
But yeah,

Speaker 1 I agree with you. Like, I think Russell Wilson's an incredible quarterback, but you can't, at this point, we've seen enough that he's got to be kind of annoying to be around.

Speaker 3 Yeah, can you imagine just like you're going to the locker room where you're looking looking to just hang out with the boys. You're tired.
Practice has been long.

Speaker 3 And then Russell's sitting at his locker and he's making you watch like Tony Robbins videos about being more committed to details. And you're like, fuck you, Russ.
Can I please just hang out?

Speaker 3 I just want to play cards, Russ. Is that okay?

Speaker 1 You come into the locker room, and Russ has already been there for an hour having a conversation with himself, simulating what it's like to have a conversation with his teammates. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And you're like, wait, what's going on here, dude?

Speaker 3 Did you see he? He did the thing where he ran out onto the field and did the simulated high fives. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Even yesterday, when he ran out onto the field and there was no he's simulating high fives at an away game running out of the tunnel do you think i was thinking about this last night do you think anyone in russell wilson's camp is starting to be like hey man we're getting a little blowback here like people are starting to be like hey you're kind of annoying do you think that that's happening at any point because they're russell wilson clearly cares how other people perceive him and the perception's starting to flip.

Speaker 1 Like we've, we've been on it for a while, but I think regular people also are kind of thinking, like, yeah, he's kind of annoying. He's a little cheeky.
He's a goober. And again, not a bad guy.

Speaker 1 Seemingly a very nice guy. Great quarterback.
Goober personality.

Speaker 3 I think he'd be a great neighbor to have.

Speaker 1 How about that?

Speaker 3 He'd be a fan.

Speaker 1 Well, eh, I don't know.

Speaker 3 Now I'm thinking, like, Christmas time, he definitely like competes in terms of how much lights he's putting up on his house. Yes.

Speaker 3 But he'd definitely be the guy that would like come over, shovel your driveway for you when it snowed, which would actually be kind of emasculating. But he'd probably wake up at like 4 a.m.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Shovel your driveway for you. He would be take very good care of his lawn.
No,

Speaker 1 he would fake shovel your driveway in June. Getting ready.

Speaker 3 Do simulated reps.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just being like, let's simulate this. So when January comes, I'm ready to shovel your driveway.

Speaker 3 I just feel like he's a good human being, I think. Yes.
But I would never want to hang out with him.

Speaker 1 He's just a robot. And we've seen it many times in sports where

Speaker 1 you become like the person becomes a brand in of themselves. and the brand is like, dude, just be a human.

Speaker 1 We don't care about the quotes. We don't care.
I've likened it to Russell Wilson when you ask him a question.

Speaker 1 It looks like he's internally just scrolling Gary Vee's Instagram page looking for the perfect quote.

Speaker 3 He's going through the files. He's doing the file rundown.
He's clicking users, Russell Wilson, saved files, press conference answers,

Speaker 3 just trying to take it one day at a time, execute. Yes.
That's what he's doing.

Speaker 3 Russell Wilson is

Speaker 3 he tried to, to, he went off course, I think, when he steered away from just being a dork and trying to become the cool dork.

Speaker 3 You know, like he used to be the dork wearing the button-down Hawaiian shirt tucked into the cool.

Speaker 1 That was a cool look. I liked that cool look.
That was a cool look.

Speaker 3 I like cool dork race.

Speaker 1 Empress your dork.

Speaker 3 But then I think everything changed at that interception at the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 And because remember, he ran off the field and he gave like a, he gave an interview after that game and was saying, you know what, as I was running off the field, I was thinking, this is God putting you in this moment for a reason.

Speaker 3 That's a fine thought to have at some point to be like, okay, yeah, somebody's challenging me. Like, I am Job at this point.
Right. But don't think about that right when it happens.

Speaker 3 Think about it like six months later.

Speaker 1 We've also, you know, I don't believe in God, but there's been times where I'm like, please, God, if there is one, can I win this bet or can the Bears win this game?

Speaker 1 I'm pretty sure if there is a God, he doesn't care about football. I disagree.

Speaker 1 I don't think he cares about the result of football games and he's deciding the result of football.

Speaker 3 Explain Thibo Mania.

Speaker 1 Tebo Mania was

Speaker 1 would be the hardest butcher.

Speaker 1 But then explain Tebow just never being able to play ever again.

Speaker 3 Doesn't matter. He had that moment.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and being a punchline.

Speaker 3 Well, he's like Jesus. He was given to us and taken away quickly.

Speaker 1 If Tebow had won a Super Bowl, I'd be like, yeah, God exists. Yeah,

Speaker 1 that would be a complete confirmation. Like, yeah.
He still might.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Cowboys. Cowboys need a quarterback.

Speaker 1 Cowboys need a quarterback. Yeah.
RG3 chasing that hawk was.

Speaker 3 The hawk was chasing him. Yeah.
He put the burners on.

Speaker 1 He also tweeted after, he's like, you're probably wondering how I got here. I'm like, well, you work for ESPN, and some producer was like, you should chase this hawk.

Speaker 1 I disagree.

Speaker 3 I think that that was RG3's idea.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it might have been.

Speaker 3 I think, because RG3, he gets out of nature and he's like, how can I compete with nature? Yeah. Whether it's beating a hawk in a foot race or absolutely drilling a tree with a football.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. All right.
So the game. Geno Smith was great.

Speaker 1 The Broncos looks bad for a majority of the game. And then we have the absolute, like, I don't know what Nathaniel, I think he panicked, to be honest.

Speaker 1 So it was what, a minute and like 10 seconds left, fourth and five, all three timeouts on the 46-yard line.

Speaker 1 And he just was like, let's just burn the clock, then call a timeout, then attempt a 46 or 64-yarder. And I just, I still can't, like, there's,

Speaker 1 why didn't they go for it? They knew they could get the ball with three timeouts. You can go for it, not get it, and still get the ball back with like 50 seconds.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's a miracle, but I would still take that. I would get five yards with Russell Wilson over a 64-yard field goal.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so

Speaker 3 this is just a rookie head coach doing rookie head coaching.

Speaker 1 Panic, I think.

Speaker 3 And if he'd played enough Madden in the past, he would understand exactly how to handle that end-of-game situation.

Speaker 3 This is a problem with too many teams are hiring offensive, defensive coordinators that have spent their lives on the sidelines, calling plays, doing a great job building offenses, but have never picked up a fucking controller in their lives and played Madden.

Speaker 3 If they play Madden, they know exactly how to handle the end-of-game experience.

Speaker 1 Well, they know how hard kicking is.

Speaker 3 They know how tough kicking is, and they know exactly when to call the timeouts.

Speaker 3 But on the sidelines, every team should actually just have a guy who is the minister of the clock. Yeah.
Just the clock commander. Just have a guy that's like flavor flavor on the sideline.

Speaker 3 All they care about is a big fucking giant clock in their face. They tell you how to handle those scenarios and how to optimize your seconds because it looked like he just

Speaker 3 went to screensaver at the end of the game.

Speaker 3 I don't think he had an understanding with what he was trying to do because anyone that's ever watched football was yelling at the TV, like, use the timeout. Use the timeout.
What are we doing?

Speaker 3 Why are you doing this?

Speaker 1 Or go for it. Like, that's a part of it.
It's not even the clock was mismanaged, but I still, it goes back to you paid Russell Wilson, you know, $250 million. You traded all these picks for him.

Speaker 1 The whole reason you got Russell Wilson was because he's an elite quarterback who, in a fourth and five situation, with a minute left, can get you those five yards.

Speaker 3 But you called the timeout. I think what he did was

Speaker 3 he was seeing the clock that was ticking and he panicked. He didn't know what to do.
And as you're watching that clock kick down, you're like, okay, field goal. We'll do a field goal.
Right.

Speaker 3 So the field goal unit out there.

Speaker 3 But he should have called the timeout with a minute left.

Speaker 3 So you had fourth and five, and then he gets the first down, and then he has a full minute left to work the rest of the field, get 10 more yards, kick another field goal, or go for a touchdown.

Speaker 3 He should have called that timeout the second they got that first

Speaker 1 they got that like eight-yard gain on third down, or they should have been like, hey, third down's coming. If we don't get it, get to the line, run a play so that we can have all three timeouts.

Speaker 1 So if we don't get it, we get the ball back.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you could get the ball back too, but.

Speaker 1 No, I'm just saying, like, you have all three timeouts. Like, that, whatever.
It was clearly an error. Russell Wilson did say, like, he thought it was the right choice.

Speaker 1 Obviously, he's going to say that.

Speaker 3 He was just smiling after the game.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, of course he was because he's Russell Wilson.
And

Speaker 1 he did put on that tux. He put it back on, which is a wild move.
You can't lose in that game and then put the tux back on. What are you going to say, Billy?

Speaker 5 Spin zone, like many other coaches in the NFL that week. He lost on a field goal.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true. He lost on a field goal.

Speaker 5 That just like changes the whole narrative of loss.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He was right there.
He was right there.

Speaker 1 To better explain what happened at the end of the game, we actually have our old friend Rick Riley

Speaker 1 broke it down for us like we're idiots. It's beautiful.
He said, Hackett says,

Speaker 1 oh no, he says, sorry, hey, Coach Hackett, if you married Sophia Verghera, this is great. Like, this is what? I mean, she was, one was Modern Family.

Speaker 3 That was like... That's pretty good for Rick Riley.

Speaker 1 It is pretty good, but it still is like 5 years.

Speaker 1 It's not Kate Upton, right? He's moved on. Yeah.
Hey, Coach Hackett, if you married Sophia Vergara, would you leave her sitting in the hotel lobby? You married Russell Wilson.

Speaker 1 You traded four picks and three guys for him. Play him.
Hashtag Broncos. Why would she be sitting in the hotel lobby? Well, because

Speaker 3 the whole thing is like. She's a prostitute now.
Nathaniel Hackett,

Speaker 3 would you fuck Sophia Vergara? That's what Rick Riley is asking. Right.

Speaker 3 It's a legitimate question. He's saying that he took Sophia Vergara after they got married, took her back to the hotel, and And then she's like,

Speaker 1 even out here,

Speaker 3 I'm going to go up to the room and jack off and pull a Dan Orlovsky real quick.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 3 But you have to go to the house.

Speaker 1 But you can wait for me. Yeah, you could come to the room.

Speaker 3 The honeymoon season. I think the big question is, would Nathaniel Hackett fuck Sofia Vergara?

Speaker 1 I think he would. I think...
Well, he's in fucking Russell Wilson.

Speaker 3 I don't know because he didn't let Russell Wilson fuck the end zone.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true. So thank you to Rick Riley for breaking that down for us.
The other part of this game, the Geno Smith,

Speaker 1 what was the exact quote you guys wrote me off? I didn't write back.

Speaker 3 Yeah, a lot of you guys wrote me off.

Speaker 1 I didn't write back. So I was happy for Geno.

Speaker 1 I like when Geno looks like he did in the first half. It's fun.

Speaker 1 I was okay writing Geno Smith off.

Speaker 1 I think that was.

Speaker 1 I don't have regrets of writing off the guy who was 13 and 21 as a starter going into this game, the guy who got punched in the face by a defensive player on his team on the Jets because he refused to pay him $600

Speaker 1 or the guy that got a DUI for going 40 miles an hour over the speed limit in January.

Speaker 1 I was comfortable writing Geno Smith off.

Speaker 6 I was a cover machine, though. He is.

Speaker 1 He is.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but

Speaker 1 that was one of those ones. I know that you have to find motivation anywhere, but it wasn't like Geno Smith was, you know, killing it as a starter and then a couple breaks went against him.

Speaker 1 Like, he, Geno Smith has some self-inflicted wounds here, including, I think, having more interceptions than TDs as a starter.

Speaker 1 I'm happy for him, but I was comfortable writing him off.

Speaker 3 So when he said that quote about a lot of you guys wrote me off, I didn't write back, there were a lot of people online being like, this is so cool to see Geno. I was happy for him.

Speaker 3 So many people out there treated him like shit, and this is a great way to remind him that he's a human being and he can rise above it.

Speaker 3 I thought to myself for a second, like, I've made my fair share of jokes about Geno Smith.

Speaker 3 I'm okay with what I've said about Geno in the past.

Speaker 3 I think it's a very cool cool line that he said. Yeah.
One that I plan on stealing myself.

Speaker 1 Russell Wilson will steal it.

Speaker 3 Russell Wilson is going to steal it, but probably.

Speaker 1 Week two. Yeah.

Speaker 3 A lot of people tried to email me, but I had my out-of-office automatic reply set up. It sounded like the end of that song, Stand by Eminem, but if it was written by Ted Kaczynski.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And Geno Smith is a fun guy to root for, but we fell into this trap with him last year.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 We fell into the trap where we were like, I think Geno Smith is a legit quarterback. And I think it took about a game and a half to be like, oh, shit, yeah, he's Geno Smith.

Speaker 1 I'm fully comfortable being right off Geno Smith territory.

Speaker 1 He's had a long career in the NFL. He will continue to be, he's going to be the starter this year.
He'll be a backup probably somewhere when the Seahawks find their franchise quarterback.

Speaker 1 I'm okay with where I'm at with Geno Smith. Happy for him.
But again,

Speaker 1 everything Geno, like reading back, I was reading back the

Speaker 1 story when he got got his jaw broken. He was a real dick.

Speaker 1 He was a dick.

Speaker 1 He told, I can't even pronounce his name.

Speaker 1 Ike

Speaker 1 and Kampali.

Speaker 5 Who's now in real estate?

Speaker 1 Who's in real estate?

Speaker 1 Great. So

Speaker 1 the story went that Ike and Kampali invited Geno Smith to his camp. He had a football camp.
paid for Geno Smith to go to the camp. Geno no showed.

Speaker 1 They agreed afterwards they'd split the cost of everything that Ike and Kampali had paid for him. And I'm Polly.
And Impali.

Speaker 1 And then when he asked for the $600, Geno was like, what are you going to do about it? And then broke his jaw. As a cornerback, you should probably just be a little bit better of a leader.

Speaker 1 And then the DUI, like, again, Geno Smith, nice guy. I'm good where I'm at writing him off.

Speaker 3 So a little fun story. When that story broke.
about Geno Smith getting his jaw broken.

Speaker 3 That was the day that I was actually up in Bristol to watch behind the scenes a taping of First Take with Skip and Stephen A. Smith.
It was an incredible moment in television.

Speaker 3 Watching them debate who was at fault in this mess on the story that was just breaking right then. Skip Bayless, I'm telling you,

Speaker 3 he was laying into Stephen A. Smith and watching them debate what a shitty guy Geno Smith is.
was so perfect because they would, you know,

Speaker 3 they yell at each other for seven minutes and then it goes to commercial break. And then Stephen A.
Smith would get up and pace around the room in the commercial break, just like muttering to himself.

Speaker 3 He's like, Geno Smith,

Speaker 3 second-day draft pick, most overrated quarterback I've ever seen in my life. Like, not debating himself almost, getting himself ready, then sitting down, and then Skip Bayless just doesn't even blink.

Speaker 3 And Skip Bayliss is just like, I think you deserve to get punched. It was incredible television.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, it was a wild story. So, yeah, Geno Smith has a hell of a career going in the Seahawks.

Speaker 1 I am now, I used to hate the lime green jerseys, but I think I'm into them now. Like, I don't know what flipped, but I just, I liked them last time.

Speaker 3 I think they play when it's a team with no expectations. Yeah.
So, if it's like a legit Super Bowl contender, then it's like Mickey Mouse jerseys, but they're candy ass, right? Right.

Speaker 3 But if they're a shitty team with no expectations, it's like, okay, this is kind of cool.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is cool. Right.

Speaker 1 All right. We're going to do some other cleanup before we do that.
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Speaker 1 I mean, I went to bed last night after that game, and I was just, I went to bed with a smile on my face because I was like, that ruled, and we get to do it 17 more times.

Speaker 3 It's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 It's like the best feeling to be like, week one's done. Oh, and we get a double-header Monday night week two.
Which initially I was against because it's like, I want that week one.

Speaker 1 I'm so happy they did that because it's like you get so excited for week one football. They could give you anything and you'd eat it up.

Speaker 1 Now we get week two with a doubleheader Monday night and Chiefs Chargers Thursday night.

Speaker 3 That's incredible. We have a uh, we have some breaking news about Dak Prescott.
Oh, breaking news.

Speaker 1 Breaking news.

Speaker 3 His surgery.

Speaker 1 Whoa, that was an awesome cow. Holy fuck.
Thank you.

Speaker 3 His surgery was a success.

Speaker 1 Oh, nice. Okay.

Speaker 3 Okay, so it's breaking news. Good job, Dick.
Good job. Nice job.
Cowboys are going to be

Speaker 1 so bad.

Speaker 3 The guy in the cowboy hat just probably came in and shot his hand.

Speaker 1 There you go. Yeah.
They're a trader to me. They're going to be, it's going to be fun watching the cowboys suck for the next month and a half.

Speaker 3 Well, Jerry Jones actually did go on the radio today and committed another HIPAA violation and said Dak prescott um he could be back in like under a month oh so dak prescott's probably waking up from surgery right now this is reading that and being like uh yeah this is the russell wilson injury when he came when it was a four to six week injury and he came back after three and then sucked for three weeks until his thumb was better yeah i in a sick way i kind of think that jerry jones almost likes it when his starting quarterbacks hurt yeah because it it keeps them in the news the entire time that's true and jerry jones can go on the on the radio every week and be like yeah i'm expecting Dak to be back next week.

Speaker 3 And then that's another week of storylines about the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 1 Cooper Rush time. Cooper Rush.

Speaker 1 They shouldn't have cut DeNucci, man. Yeah.
Yeah. I feel like Cooper Rush is one of those backup quarterbacks.
Like, there has to be. Blake Bortles would be better than Cooper Rush.
Sam Ellinger.

Speaker 1 Sam Ellinger would better

Speaker 1 be better. Would be better than Cooper Rush.
Big Ben.

Speaker 1 Would be better than Cooper Rush. There's got to be guys out there that

Speaker 1 are better than Cooper Rush. Phil Rivers would be great.
Yeah. He's

Speaker 1 got the his bolo tie. We'll never hear from Phil Rivers again.
He's gone. I figured that it would take.
Cam Newton.

Speaker 6 Cam Newton. Yeah.

Speaker 3 32 teams have passed on Cam Newton.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is awesome. That's true.
Matthew Berry, send the tweet. It's unreal.
After one game.

Speaker 3 I do have, I've got a take that I'm about to drop, but

Speaker 3 Colin Kaepernick.

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 1 Why not?

Speaker 3 Jerry Jones is woke.

Speaker 1 Well, Jerry Jones, I mean, he loves headlines.

Speaker 1 What's the fastest way to get there? That would be quite some headlines.

Speaker 3 You remember that picture of him kneeling?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 That's an all-time moment, I think, in NFL history. Yeah.
When

Speaker 3 the storyline became like, who's going to kneel before this game? And then they did the Sky Cam diving down and Jerry Jones, like at midfield, looking like fucking Captain Morgan. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Just taking a big knee. smiling, like winking at the camera.
He's like, I did it. I solved racism.

Speaker 1 It was that one.

Speaker 3 Jerry Jones.

Speaker 1 It was that one in Ray Lewis like sweating, like, like profusely sweating and looking like he was actually taking a knee because he was so hungover that he needed to take a knee.

Speaker 3 You know what he said?

Speaker 3 He took two knees. Yeah, Jesus.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 So he took the first knee for racism and then the second knee for Jesus.

Speaker 1 That's good. Which one? Right, left? I think.
You got to go dominant for Jesus, non-dominant for racism? Probably. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 3 We'll have to get Ray to talk about that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Never.

Speaker 1 What are you going to say, Hank? Andrew Luck. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We saw him in

Speaker 1 Stanford. Yeah.
Andrew Luck,

Speaker 1 we're still trying to get him on this show.

Speaker 1 I would love to talk to him for an extended period of time because I do think there's going to be some Andrew Luck revision where it's like, oh, yeah, he was really that fucking good. And

Speaker 1 he was. He was on a like his teams were not good.
And they

Speaker 1 he was a very good quarterback, Hank. You don't think so? No.

Speaker 3 you don't you just don't like him because he's compared to tom brady

Speaker 6 i don't think he's compared to tom brady i don't dislike him i think he's a an interesting dude kind of a goofball but he has you know he was a he was a physical specimen he didn't he didn't win that much i mean he took them to the playoffs and won a playoff game i think they were down by like championship games weren't they like down by 21 points in the playoffs and they beat the chiefs they came back or did i get that wrong sucked Those Colts teams sucked.

Speaker 1 But they went to the playoffs.

Speaker 6 Weren't those Peyton Mannings teams?

Speaker 1 No, they completely over. Remember, they went...

Speaker 1 Did they go? No, they went 1-15 or something?

Speaker 3 Yeah, they had a season in between.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they had a season in between that was just like a complete teardown.

Speaker 6 I mean, he's a nice guy.

Speaker 1 He actually is up on the.

Speaker 6 What you're saying with the revisionist history, like he was, you know, he wasn't one of the greats.

Speaker 1 He retired early. Yeah, he did retire early.
I'm saying like he, he will, people will say, oh, he was way better than we gave him credit for.

Speaker 6 That's the revision. Like he got a lot of credit.

Speaker 1 He got a lot of credit, but he also, it was

Speaker 1 from him walking away.

Speaker 4 He went 2-14 in 2011.

Speaker 1 The Colts did without him.

Speaker 3 And then he came back, or then Andrew Luck came to the Colts. He got drafted, yeah.
Chuck Pagano

Speaker 3 had cancer that year, you remember, and he had to leave. Bruce Arians took over, and then Andrew Luck went on an absolute tear with Bruce Arians in the second half of that season.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Eli Manning reminded us last night, Peyton got cut.

Speaker 1 That's true. He did get cut.

Speaker 3 Interesting.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So that, I mean, that does change how, you know,

Speaker 1 the Colts were always, the Colts fans were always going gonna cheer for him when he went back there, but it does change the dynamic versus what Russell Wilson.

Speaker 1 Andrew Luck is exactly what Russell Wilson should aspire to be in terms of embracing your inner dork. Yeah, he's a being yourself.

Speaker 3 He's a huge dork. But we love him.
We love Andrew Luck.

Speaker 1 Because he's authentically dork.

Speaker 3 I think he has a good perspective on life. It goes back to what we were saying about Coach O the other week, where Andrew Luck got, he probably collected close to $100 million

Speaker 3 in salary, right? And then he's like, you know what, my heart's not really into getting hit by 300-pound dudes every week. I'm injured all the time.
I can just read books and hang out with my family.

Speaker 1 Right. I think I'll do that.
Yeah. Yeah.
I think I'll do that.

Speaker 1 Okay. Anything else from Sunday or looking ahead?

Speaker 1 Great. I was just looking at the slate.

Speaker 1 I'm happy that we don't have nine games at one o'clock because that was sensory overload.

Speaker 6 That's too much.

Speaker 1 And the Monday night football doubleheader does alleviate some of that.

Speaker 4 Week one, all games of 425. They need to do that every week.

Speaker 1 Is it not?

Speaker 4 Nope, we have 405s.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they fuck gamblers over because we all just sit there being like, wait, when is this game starting? When is this game starting?

Speaker 4 Yeah, it was amazing.

Speaker 4 I'm sure it's a TV thing that we don't know about, but I don't see how those 20 minutes. We have Atlanta, Rams, and Seattle, San Fran at 405

Speaker 6 Sunday. The Browns changed their midfield logo because the only other update.

Speaker 1 What was that? Yeah.

Speaker 1 We didn't mention that that is cool. I believe

Speaker 1 Brownie the Elf is the new midfield. I like that guy.

Speaker 1 And the Browns, we forgot to mention, but the browns did get to send the first ever 1-0 tweet which is always cool whenever it's like twitter didn't exist when we were last time we were 1-0 yeah also shout out um the giants they're above 500 for the first time since 2016.

Speaker 1 yes that's crazy and the dable hype is gonna is so funny in new york like he deserves it because they won the first game but i feel like we've seen this many times before with head coaches in new york like they loved joe judge remember that yep they loved joe judge to start.

Speaker 1 All right. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I mean, basically,

Speaker 3 he did a good job by going for two.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 3 And so that's cool. Right.
But let's pump the brakes real quick. I'm looking at this Brownie the Elf guy right quick here at midfield.
Terrible ball security. Really? Very bad ball security.
Not good.

Speaker 3 Holding that thing like a loaf of bread. Not good.

Speaker 1 And they're going to. Who holds a loaf of bread like that.
We were talking about that. I was doing this on the show.
Or was that on the stream? That was all.

Speaker 1 It was on the stream school saying that people say.

Speaker 3 It's like. I don't remember the last time I've held a loaf of bread.

Speaker 1 Well, I usually put it in the basket. Yeah, right.

Speaker 6 But if I threw you a loaf of bread, you would hold it

Speaker 1 tight. I'd switch the fuck out of it.

Speaker 3 I would catch it with two hands and then look it into my body.

Speaker 1 Yep. And then I'd fucking...
And then if I was on the left sideline, I'd make sure that I was holding it in my left hand. Just ball security with that loaf of bread.

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Speaker 6 My hot seat, we kind of talked about it already, but my hot seat is Seattle. Just bad sports town.

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 6 Booing.

Speaker 6 Booing your Super Bowl quarterback.

Speaker 6 And we didn't talk about this, but I saw online, there was people saying like there's a difference between Russell Wilson and Tom Brady because Tom Brady won six Super Bowls.

Speaker 6 Russell Wilson only won one. That should not matter.

Speaker 1 One Super Bowl, like one Super Bowl is a Super Bowl.

Speaker 6 You guys, what would you guys do for a Super Bowl?

Speaker 3 Yeah, I mean, we just said I would shoot ourselves, I would suck God's dick.

Speaker 1 You'd literally get shot off. We'd get shot.
Is that blasphemous?

Speaker 3 I feel like that might have been over the line.

Speaker 1 Not if you don't believe in God.

Speaker 1 I mean, he would probably want it sucked off.

Speaker 6 And so, like, that kind of,

Speaker 6 it was gross to see one Super Bowl is plenty. That should be enough to be a legend in your town forever.
And that's why they lost the NBA team.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow. Hank, Hank, Bill.

Speaker 1 Hank. It's a bad sports town.

Speaker 3 You are being a real piece of shit right now. I can't watch that clip and be like, that's a bad sports town.

Speaker 6 Now it makes a little more sense.

Speaker 3 I've been trying to be nicer to you, but shut the fuck up, Hank.

Speaker 1 Wow. Is that wrong? Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was mean. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Booing a quarterback that won you Super Bowl is right, you're saying?

Speaker 1 No, listen. No, I'm saying

Speaker 1 that the best of leaving is

Speaker 1 too far.

Speaker 3 You're going to be put on a hit list.

Speaker 1 Is that an example of that being a bad sports town?

Speaker 6 Yes or no? Factor fiction. We're back.
No.

Speaker 3 Factor fiction. I don't think so.

Speaker 6 Booing a quarterback that won your Super Bowl, bad sports town.

Speaker 3 If they're such a bad sports town, how come they've got their state outline on Washington Commanders mugs?

Speaker 3 Interesting.

Speaker 1 Huh?

Speaker 6 What does that even mean?

Speaker 3 Did you not see the Commanders mugs being sold?

Speaker 3 Somebody fucked up and put the state of Washington on officially licensed Washington Commanders mugs.

Speaker 6 That's opposed to that.

Speaker 1 yeah definitely that makes sense but no to your point like I I kind of I understand why they booed him in a regular season game because he's the opponent I didn't think that they were going to boo him but it's more of like you're the opponent tonight we're going to be rooting against you tonight and he weaseled his way out of town he anyone who weasels their way out of town is going to get booed i again i wouldn't boo because I've never had a quarterback like Russell Wilson, but I get it in terms of weaseling your way out of town.

Speaker 1 He did weasel his way out of town in the truest sense of the, like, if you look up Weasel Your Way Out of Town, he did it.

Speaker 6 Because they didn't want to offer him a big contract?

Speaker 1 No, I think he wanted out no matter what. Like, I don't think they could have paid him anything and he would have stayed.
All right. Agree to disagree.
Brace debate.

Speaker 6 Pass force sound. Okay.

Speaker 1 You're cool thrown.

Speaker 6 That was a cheap shot in the Sonics, but that was my only takeaway. It's like, all right.
You know,

Speaker 6 what happens if the Sonics come back? Are they just going to boo them?

Speaker 1 Like, they left?

Speaker 1 Did the Sonics weasel their way out of the game? If Down Thunder came back as the Sonics, they'd have to boo. Yeah.
Like, when consistent.

Speaker 3 When KD returned the first time to Seattle, did they boo him? Yeah.

Speaker 1 They'd have to be consistent.

Speaker 1 And then my cool throne is GoldenEye. Oh.

Speaker 6 They are re-releasing it on Nintendo Switch.

Speaker 1 Let's go.

Speaker 6 So it's going to be a new

Speaker 6 guys are dinosaurs. You played it.
I was a little too young to play, but

Speaker 6 for the old heads, it's exciting.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I mean, Odd Job was the first time I looked at a video game and I was like, I see representation. Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's awesome. Is it going to be just updated with the same levels? Yeah.
Fuck yes.

Speaker 6 So it's just like all you need is Nintendo Switch.

Speaker 1 I was on, when we were flying to Iowa City the other day, Brandon has a Nintendo Switch.

Speaker 1 So I was playing some of the old games and I like nostalgia, obviously, with old games, but I also was like, these games suck. Because video games have come so far.
I was playing Mario.

Speaker 1 I was like, this is kind of boring. Right.

Speaker 3 So I think the exception that might be Goldeneye.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Because Goldeneye...
Well, Mario Kart 2 is always played.

Speaker 3 Mario Kart's great. Yeah, there are a few classics that'll always work, but I think even the kids understand.
Billy, as a Zoomer that plays video games.

Speaker 3 Jake, do you play video games too?

Speaker 4 Here and there, not as much anymore. I do have a Switch.
I played it a lot. I actually played with Hank Mario Kart during COVID, but

Speaker 3 do you guys understand how great

Speaker 3 the GoldenEye video games were?

Speaker 5 I understand that it was like the first first-person shooter that was good.

Speaker 3 Now, Doom was pretty good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but Goldeneye was iconic. And N64 was also like iconic as well.

Speaker 4 I played a ton of Goldeneye.

Speaker 6 I don't know.

Speaker 1 How old are you, Matt?

Speaker 4 I'm 27. Oh,

Speaker 1 not a dinosaur. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I'll say, like, that was, like, one of the big N64 games that was always hit in my ass.

Speaker 1 So it's not a dinosaur problem. It's just Hank's a loser.

Speaker 1 I guess.

Speaker 3 Sounds like Hank didn't have friends to play multiplayer mode with.

Speaker 6 No, he would just crush

Speaker 6 Panja Tooie. What?

Speaker 1 Dragon Ball Z? Yeah, Dragon Ball Z.

Speaker 6 If they had a video game, I would have loved Dragon Ball Z.

Speaker 1 All right, PFT, your hot seat cool thrown.

Speaker 3 My hot seat.

Speaker 1 Good hot seat cool thrown, Hank. Good job.

Speaker 3 Good job, Hank. Way to go.
My hot seat is college ranking systems.

Speaker 3 More specifically, the U.S. News and World Report college ranking systems, which they come out every year.
Oh, these are the best. People get mad about them.

Speaker 3 And there's always a bunch of people being like, oh, that's bullshit.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, Texas AM should be way, way, way higher.

Speaker 1 Yeah, did you see them doing their fucking roast?

Speaker 3 That was actually, yeah, I shouldn't have said Texas AM.

Speaker 1 They're on my cool thread situation.

Speaker 3 But the college ranking systems are always like a big debate, and people are always accusing them of being like, U.S. News and World Report rigged.
This is not the correct rankings.

Speaker 3 And it just came out today that Columbia University provided incorrect numbers on their class size, their faculty degrees,

Speaker 3 et cetera, et cetera, which led to Columbia being ranked number two incorrectly. They cheated.
They lied on it. And there's no fact-checking behind the scenes in this college ranking system.

Speaker 3 So now the entire system's fucked up and we need to replace it with something else.

Speaker 1 The whole system is so funny because how it works is these colleges, they actually just spend money wooing the voters and like...

Speaker 1 bringing them to the campus and paying for nice dinners and all these things just so they can get like the ninth ranking instead of the 11th. And then I don't know what happens from there.

Speaker 1 Like your alumni feel like your degree means more?

Speaker 3 Yeah, I think that's what it's about. It's the degree means more.
They can charge more for tuition. Yep.
Columbia hasn't played anybody, though. The restricted schedule is pretty bad.
It is bad.

Speaker 3 We should just make our own college ranking system just based on vibes entirely. Yeah.
And it would just be like LSU. Arizona State.
Arizona State, definitely. Florida.

Speaker 3 I was thinking last weekend, like, I would have loved to go to Florida. That seems like a great college.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just to hang out. It's so humid, though.

Speaker 3 That's true.

Speaker 1 I just, that's more of a big guy problem. Yeah.
Where it's like, I see, like, when they go, when they show a crowd shot of the swamp, I'm like, I would die.

Speaker 1 Like, I would die.

Speaker 3 What school stinks at sports, like, overall stinks at sports, but would be the funnest school to go to?

Speaker 1 I mean, Arizona or Arizona State. Arizona's got basketball.

Speaker 1 I think Arizona State's pretty like mediocre to bad at both basketball and football consistently, and that seems like a very fun school to go.

Speaker 3 I was thinking Arizona State would definitely be up there. I was also thinking like NC State might be a fun school to go to.
NC State is.

Speaker 5 High Point university. Where's that? It's like in Virginia.

Speaker 1 I heard it's like a country.

Speaker 1 No, what about College of Charleston?

Speaker 6 Like, doesn't even have sports.

Speaker 1 Yeah, College of Charleston. They have a basketball team.
The Citadel. The Coastal Carol.

Speaker 1 Coastal Carolina, isn't that in Myrtle Beach?

Speaker 6 ECU, yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Oh, ECU would be fun for sure.

Speaker 1 ECU is fun. Oh, I mean, the real answer is Florida Gulf Coast.
Remember those pictures of the campus? Don't care every day. Oh, fuck.
FAU. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Come to FAU.

Speaker 1 Boca Rattan.

Speaker 1 God, yeah.

Speaker 3 If I had to do it all over again, I would just apply to FAU. Be like, fuck it.
I don't care what I'm studying.

Speaker 1 Have a great time, man.

Speaker 3 Just have a good time. That's really the only point.

Speaker 3 My cool throne is Texas, the University of Texas, because they were pretty mad coming off this weekend when they got hosed off the

Speaker 3 non-call for the face mask and the Phantom

Speaker 3 roughing the pastor in the end zone, all that shit against Alabama.

Speaker 3 It was a tough couple days in Austin, but then the internet gods smiled upon them and released a bunch of videos of Texas AM doing their yell practice, which instantly made Texas fans be like, all right, at least we're not Aggies.

Speaker 1 And then Texas A ⁇ M spent all day trying to DMCA every video of their embarrassing,

Speaker 1 whatever cult practice. Like, that was...
Cult. If you show that to anyone who doesn't know American football, you just would be like, that has nothing to do with sports.
That's just a cult.

Speaker 3 Texas A ⁇ M is a cult. I say this as somebody that knows a lot of Aggies.
I lived in Texas for about 10 years. They're a cult.
A lot of them are nice people, but nice people who are in a cult.

Speaker 1 What was the thing the guy was doing where he like he would do that every time?

Speaker 3 That's the horse lash. Oh, my God.
They've got an entire, they have an entire

Speaker 3 catalog, an encyclopedia of different hand motions and body motions that these yell leaders have to make at certain points. They're just, they're just cults.

Speaker 1 They're cults. And I do love the Texan M when you make fun of them.

Speaker 1 They're like, like, you can, you can make fun of Texan M for a million different reasons, but they'll always be like number one in agricultural sciences. We're like, okay, great job.

Speaker 3 Good job.

Speaker 3 I'll take my dog to you when it gets sick.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're talking about weird shit that you do before the football games. We don't care about the actual degree here.
I'm sure it's a good school.

Speaker 3 And they also, they claim weird national championships that don't exist from the 1920s.

Speaker 3 I think they had to actually take down national championships off the side of their stadium that they tried to claim. Sometime in the 1940s, they had to like, they got fact-checked on their stadium.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Weird, weird times always

Speaker 1 at College Station. All right, my hot seat is anyone who doubts the Jets because Billy's football coach, Robert Salah,

Speaker 1 went in front of the media on Monday and said, talking about the turnaround the Jets are going to have.

Speaker 1 He said, I know it's going to happen, and we're all taking receipts on all the people who continually mock and say that we're not going to do anything.

Speaker 1 I'm taking receipts, and I'm going to be more than happy to share them with all of you when all is said and done. He went on to say it's exhausting.
It's exhausting for the coaches.

Speaker 1 It's exhausting for ownership. It's exhausting for you guys to continue write about losers.
It's exhausting for the fans. It's exhausting for everybody and nobody wants to lose.

Speaker 1 There's nothing worse than being sold a bill of goods on the future. Everybody wants things now.
It's like the instant coffee age.

Speaker 1 I will put myself down as a receipt.

Speaker 1 He can absolutely come back and dunk on me when the Jets become a Super Bowl team. But yeah, that was,

Speaker 1 he's taking receipts. He's letting everyone know.
I also liked that he started

Speaker 1 this sentence or this entire diatribe with the turnaround, I know it's going to happen, and then said, there's nothing worse than being sold a bill of goods on the future.

Speaker 1 So, kind of doing both there.

Speaker 1 It's going to happen.

Speaker 3 He also said that he's looking forward to, I think, shoving it down our throats. Yep.
He's a restorative that day.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I'm fully going to admit, like, I have been a doubter on the New York Jets. Yeah.
It's not my finest moment. I guess that goes hand in hand with doubting Geno Smith, too.

Speaker 3 It's kind of like a Venn diagram, exactly one circle on that one. So my throat is ready to get it jammed down by Coach Salah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 5 He's going to have a Berman wallet of receipts.

Speaker 1 He's going to actually die buried in receipts because

Speaker 1 maybe the Jets will be good this year. I don't think so.
But

Speaker 1 if they're not good this year, he could get fired. And if they're not good next year, he definitely will get fired.
So, yeah, those receipts. It's tough to say that.

Speaker 1 Like, he must think that the practices he's watching, they're a really good team because things are about to turn.

Speaker 3 No, he said that you guys don't get to see the things I see in front of you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right.

Speaker 3 I love whatever that's. That's always a good sign.
That way the coach is like, we've strung together the best practices of our entire year, and you guys haven't said anything about it.

Speaker 1 Kirk Ference said that about Spencer Petrus because everyone at Iowa is like, dude, anyone would be better at quarterback.

Speaker 1 And he was like, you don't see what we see all week, which is essentially saying our other quarterbacks are somehow worse.

Speaker 1 And did you see also Bob Stoops got tricked on cameo? He did a whole cameo basically being like,

Speaker 1 Brian.

Speaker 1 That was awesome. Oh, okay.
All right. We'll get to it.
Yeah, yeah. All right.
My cool throne is the Queens Corgis. So there was a lot of talk about where the Queens Corgis are going to go.
Turns out.

Speaker 1 Best groomer.

Speaker 1 Okay, so Billy did the joke. There we go.
Billy took the joke.

Speaker 3 Wait, what did Billy say?

Speaker 1 He's a best groomer. I was going to say that, but yeah.
Prince Andrew. So, yeah.
I don't get it. Yeah.
Because he's a pedophile. Oh, okay, I got it.
Yep.

Speaker 1 Okay, so go ahead.

Speaker 3 How cool would it be? How cool would it be if the dogs just ate Prince Andrew? Yeah. If they just fucking attacked him and fucked up.
Like, fuck this guy.

Speaker 3 Had been training them her entire life to be like, okay, once I put you in the room with my pedophile son, I want you to go for his kill.

Speaker 3 Death by Corgi's would be the most adorable murder.

Speaker 1 It would be, yeah. You'd just be trying to boop him back while they just

Speaker 3 throw on your face. I wouldn't mind getting killed by Corgi.

Speaker 1 No. Enough of them? It would probably be...
No, it would probably take a while.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it would take a while, but it'd be snugly.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it would. It would be very, very nice.
All right, Billy, your hot seat, cool thrown.

Speaker 3 My hot seat's the gold zone.

Speaker 5 As we saw, Hackett's gold zone didn't really do well in the red zone. No.

Speaker 1 In my other hot seat. Two fumbles on the goal line.
Yeah. That was tough.

Speaker 5 And then my other hot seat is Putin. Turns out Russia's not doing too well.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so is Ukraine in Russia now?

Speaker 5 Ukraine has gotten to the Russian border. They took back ISIM, and they totally duped the Russian generals into moving their troops farther south, and then they took the part in the north.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Shit.

Speaker 1 It is kind of like

Speaker 3 Broncos

Speaker 3 Seattle Seahawks situation with Russia and Ukraine. Like, everyone expecting it's going to be a total cakewalk.
And then Ukraine puts up a pretty badass resistance. Yep.

Speaker 3 They get to the goal line, then they fumble the ball.

Speaker 1 And shout out all the people who have kept Ukraine as their Twitter avatar because that that that did it i'd say that the 50 the sunflower emojis is what did it for me that and also like the i i love seeing the updates where like a russian troop would have they would like ukraine was getting intel by russian troops like leaving their airpods places that was great yeah they're just like yeah they're right there because we can see their phones also they had that one dude it was i think it was a like former advisor to putin that went on some it was whatever the equivalent of the russian version of the view is where they just have like a bunch of former generals sitting around and talk about Russia.

Speaker 3 And one guy was like, we're losing this war. And then the rest of the panel just looked at him like, dude, what the fuck are you saying? Don't say that.

Speaker 3 You know, this is, you're on television right now. It's like, no, I mean, look at it.
We're losing. We've lost all these guys.
And everybody's like, no, I think you have bad morale.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You have bad morale.
Fix that.

Speaker 1 Okay, Jake, or do you have another cool throne, Billy?

Speaker 3 My cool throne was just NFL vet Twitter.

Speaker 5 There's a whole argument between Micah Parsons and like a bunch of offensive linemen. Yeah.
He got killed by Leonard Fournette. And now you just have old dudes arguing about blocking.

Speaker 5 And I just think it's awesome.

Speaker 1 I love offensive line Twitter because they are by far the most cohesive unit on Twitter because they're like, we all basically spent

Speaker 1 a decade of our life being morbidly obese so that we could get embarrassed like one out of every 40 times and people shit on us.

Speaker 1 Now we're fighting back and we're not going to let you guys tell us that we're being wrong when we fuck someone up with like a semi-blind side block. Yeah, it's great.

Speaker 3 It is great to watch. There was one thing that I wanted to talk about from the weekend.
I think it was in the Steelers-Bengals game. I wanted to shout out the Steelers' offensive line.

Speaker 3 I know that they stunk and a lot of people are on them.

Speaker 3 But sprinting downfield to spike a ball at the end of a game as an offensive line unit when you're exhausted, I haven't really thought about that before.

Speaker 3 You got to run like 30 yards and a dead sprint, get there. And then maybe the hardest part is you have to get completely still after you get up to the line of scrimmage before you hike the ball.

Speaker 3 That's got to be the hardest thing in the world to do that nobody talks about in football.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that sucks. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, Jake, hot seat, cool throw, and then we'll get to Ryan Fitzpatrick. Great interview in studio.

Speaker 4 My hot seat is the MLB stats department. So the Los Angeles Dodgers, obviously, unreal this year.
They have 96 wins.

Speaker 1 Obviously. Yes.

Speaker 4 And they thought they clinched the postseason berth on Sunday. They had champagne.
They did a toast in the locker room.

Speaker 4 The MLB then announced an internal error and said, nope, your magic number is one.

Speaker 3 What?

Speaker 4 So they won again yesterday and they clinched for the second time.

Speaker 6 Did they do more champagne?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Can't you just look at those standings?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I guess there was a tiebreaker issue,

Speaker 3 but they clinched twice. It was like a doomsday scenario where if exactly certain games had gone the wrong way, then they would have had to play like a play-in game or something, maybe?

Speaker 4 Yeah, they got post-season hats on Sunday, too, before they...

Speaker 3 I would have celebrated twice. I would have had said, you know what? Double champagne.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Quick side note, but Mike Trout hitting seven seven games in a row at the home run is insane.

Speaker 1 We're doing a, I mean, people will know by now what happened, but we're doing a boost tonight in the Barstill Sportsbook. Will he hit the eighth? Because it is, it is so Mike Trout.

Speaker 1 That was insane when he hit five in a row. Yeah, it's so Mike Trout that it's also not a big story.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. My cool throwing big cat.
You hinted at it. Fans who are trolling.

Speaker 4 So next level trolling, someone had Bob Stoots, Stoops, former Oklahoma coach and Frank McCaffrey, Iowa basketball coach, make cameos intended for football offensive coordinator Brian Ference being like, it'll be okay, cheering up.

Speaker 1 Be like, it went viral. Yeah, Bob Stoops was like, you know, I've been in this situation with family members.
Like, maybe you should just go out on your own.

Speaker 4 Go to New England, go back to New England. That's where he started his coaching career.

Speaker 1 It was great. It was great.
So, yeah,

Speaker 1 that's the proper use of cameo to have them subtly do something like that.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Should we get to our interview? Ryan Fitzpatrick. Great interview in studio.
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Speaker 1 All right, here he is. Our good friend Ryan Fitzpatrick.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on recurring guest, Ryan Fitzpatrick. You can see him now on Prime on Thursday night football.
He's going to be part of the pregame show and post-game, I'd assume.

Speaker 1 So doing it all, Ryan, I mean, you know what the first question is going to be. We're going to, this whole entire interview is to just get you out of retirement.
You're not retired, right?

Speaker 1 You're not actually retired.

Speaker 4 I'm actually retired.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 4 You saw the way I sat down in the couch, my hip is still, you know, it's not great. Come on.

Speaker 1 We actually just, before you walked in, we did like a little quick list through our brain of how many teams could use Ryan Fitzpatrick right now. It's a long list.
Okay,

Speaker 3 let's cut to the chase, though. The Buffalo Bills, you love the Bills.
You were at their playoff game last year.

Speaker 3 You still feel that deep connection to the city of Buffalo. Josh Allen needs a backup going into the playoffs.
He's going to be fine. I'm not saying he gets hurt.

Speaker 1 No. Okay.
Definitely not.

Speaker 3 But he's like, you know what? We need a little Fitzmagic just

Speaker 3 to be on the sidelines as we're making a playoff push. $3 million,

Speaker 3 would you do it?

Speaker 6 No.

Speaker 4 For multiple reasons. Money,

Speaker 4 you know, whatever. We can throw that out of the equation.
You're well off.

Speaker 1 You You went to Harvard.

Speaker 1 Still haven't used a degree. But

Speaker 4 let's think about, and you know the history, some of the history of my career. Everywhere I've been where I've been a backup, the starter goes down.
Everywhere. It doesn't matter where I go.

Speaker 4 It doesn't matter who it is. It doesn't matter the circumstance.
We've got a broken jaw. We've got dislocated hips.
We've got Liz-Frank injuries.

Speaker 4 I would not want to do that to my boy Josh.

Speaker 1 That's interesting, isn't it?

Speaker 3 That everywhere you go, just the starter happens to get.

Speaker 1 But what if we use this power for good and like a fan base? I don't know, let's just say the Minnesota Vikings are like, hey, we're kind of sick of Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 1 Let's bring in Ryan Fitzpatrick and then we can be done with Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 4 We can pick off quarterbacks if you want, but Josh wouldn't be one that I'd want to pick off.

Speaker 1 Okay, so you're actually done. No way.

Speaker 1 You are going to be the guy that we mentioned like five years from now being like, you know, who's still out there? Ryan Fitzpatrick. And he could probably sling it for you for a few weeks.

Speaker 4 Well, so when I got benched in Miami and Flores started doing the, hey, let's put him in at the end of the game thing,

Speaker 4 I did not

Speaker 1 practice.

Speaker 4 I was there, I watched, I helped, I was active in meetings.

Speaker 4 I did not practice and throw a ball in practice from the time I got benched until the time you saw me play in those games, Denver and Las Vegas, because I wanted to prove to myself that I could come out of the stands at any point and play.

Speaker 4 And I did, and I proved it to myself. So maybe in five years, if I'm feeling better, and I get a call.

Speaker 3 You're the new Favre. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm going to send out an hard retirement.

Speaker 3 Yeah, stay away from all the welfare situations and taking tax money. But you're the new Favre.
You're the new Favre now. You're rich.
You don't need to do that.

Speaker 3 But you actually do owe me, you owe me a year in decentralization.

Speaker 1 I do.

Speaker 4 I gave you a solid 13 plays.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there were good 13 plays.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it was fun.

Speaker 3 Nice pass to McLaurin on that one.

Speaker 1 Was that that?

Speaker 3 How many passes did you complete as a Washington commander?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Three of six, maybe? I look it up.

Speaker 3 I was looking forward so much to that season.

Speaker 4 I was too. And we talked right before the season started when you guys are doing your bus tour or whatever.
And I was too. And I was especially excited to play with a guy like Terry.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 You know, Curtis ended up being hurt for a lot of the year. but yeah, there was some good energy, and then it just went out the window right away.

Speaker 3 So if Carson,

Speaker 3 knock on wood,

Speaker 3 he's not going to sprain both ankles this year, but if he gets like COVID and monkeypox at the same time or whatever,

Speaker 3 and we need you to come in for one game, $3 million watching Commander, two games. No.

Speaker 1 Three of six,

Speaker 4 13 yards. Three of six for 13.
That's not bad. Yeah, that's because if you, so let's say they let me throw 60 passes that game, then it would have been 30 for 60 for 150 yards.
That's pretty nice.

Speaker 1 That's yeah. I mean, now we're talking touchdown interception ratio, zero to zero.
Yeah, that's huge. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 Is there a rush in there or no?

Speaker 1 Let's see.

Speaker 3 You probably ran at the safety.

Speaker 1 You always love running at the smallest guy on the field. That's one rush for two yards.
Yeah. Isn't that where you broke your hip?

Speaker 4 No, that, no, I got sacked.

Speaker 1 Okay, that was my hip. Yeah.
Yeah. That, I mean, that injury, that's not an injury you hear for people in their 40s, 30s, 20s, whatever.
Like, that's a significant injury.

Speaker 1 That's like a, oh, Nana broke her hip. She's going to die.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. So I tried to avoid pneumonia.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, was it, though, when it happened, were you like, I know it's a broken hip. This sucks.

Speaker 4 Well, so I didn't fracture my hip. Sublux did, and then it was the head of my femur that was like the issue.

Speaker 4 But it starts,

Speaker 4 it was six to eight weeks.

Speaker 4 from the original image, and then four weeks later they went in and it was much worse, the health of the head of my femur and so then once they started talking about like hip replacements and whatever else it got a little bit scary to where it was like okay like yeah this is we're looking at the rest of my life now i've got a really cool here i did uh prp shot i did stem cells and then if you remember and i know pft you do

Speaker 4 the building got raided by the DEA as I was getting my treatment. Like,

Speaker 4 I wasn't physically in there when it happened, but

Speaker 4 they took the the top trainer and the second trainer away and didn't replace them for a while. So then I just had to go elsewhere for treatment.

Speaker 3 You get a nice little taste of what it's like to play in Washington. That really,

Speaker 3 it's such a clown show sometimes in the front office that you forget all the stuff that has happened to that team over the last, I don't know, just three years.

Speaker 3 I completely forgot that their office got raided by the DEA, like, fully. So that was...

Speaker 1 That was kind of a blip. It was a real blip on the map when it comes to it.

Speaker 3 But yeah, so that must have been really, really strange as a player. You're looking around, like, where do I get treatment now? Are you just on your own after that?

Speaker 4 Yeah, so I went in. Nobody really had known what happened.

Speaker 4 The guy that would treat me, I thought it was a COVID situation. I said, oh, he's out because of COVID.
Everybody was real hush, hush.

Speaker 4 And then it went on for a couple of days, and slowly we kind of figured out what happened.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 4 they didn't, they weren't sure if he was going to be back or not, so they didn't replace him with anybody. And so I was sitting there looking around the training room like,

Speaker 4 I need treatment. I need help here.
Like, so I just, I had to go elsewhere. I sought,

Speaker 4 you know, help down the street somewhere.

Speaker 1 That's nuts.

Speaker 3 You'll always be a football team in my book.

Speaker 1 Football team for life.

Speaker 3 Is that how you say it?

Speaker 1 Like, I don't know if I never got a bad person. Is always a football team?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Teamer.
Teamer.

Speaker 3 Would you consider yourself like Bill for Life?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 What would be the...

Speaker 3 What set do you claim?

Speaker 4 Yeah. You know what? So this was a tough one for me because,

Speaker 4 you know, there was a little bit of chatter after I retired of is he going to retire a bill like I think when I go to bed at night if I was to think about myself in a jersey would be in a Bills jersey but it wasn't really the story of my career the story of my career was that I bounced around everywhere and I played on a bunch of different teams and so

Speaker 4 even though like

Speaker 4 that fan base like those are my people

Speaker 4 I decided that I wasn't going to retire with a particular team just because I played on so many and that's more of my story.

Speaker 1 You should sign sign with a new team you never played with and retire with them. That would be cool.
That would be cool.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Patriot.
Yeah. You've been in every other team in that division.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I didn't get to complete that one. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 You didn't get all like what the Infinity stuff?

Speaker 4 Yeah, collect them all.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So you're in media now. Are you ready for media? Because like this is, we can give you tips, but

Speaker 1 you're with the big boys now. You think playing in your little football league is hard.
The media is a different animal.

Speaker 4 Well, I know there's going to be a learning curve. I mean, I've done one preseason game, and so I do about an hour pre-game, and then we do a tight halftime show.

Speaker 4 We've got a tight post-game for about 10 minutes. Then we get to the post-post game, which is like what I'm most looking forward to, because it is like.

Speaker 4 Again, one preseason game is very tight. Like it's little eight-second, 10-second, you know, there's a producer in your ear saying, okay, shut up, next one.

Speaker 4 And this post-post, it'll be the 30 minutes after the post-game show is going to be more freewheeling, setting up the weekend of football games. And that's what I'm really excited about.

Speaker 1 So have you, have you sat down and studied the whole league, or are you able to go off the knowledge that you had from your career?

Speaker 4 So I will say,

Speaker 4 well, and you guys could tell me, I guess, better than I know already, but like you have to study. You got to be all over it.

Speaker 1 No. No, you don't.
No, we don't. Well, basically, you just picked up the game.
No, but you watch, but you watch games. And then you have to watch games.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, we watch games, but then we take, like, all right, if this one guy does one thing one time, he's either good or bad for the rest of his career.

Speaker 4 Yeah, for sure. So you need to

Speaker 3 pick one team that you hate and just call them frauds.

Speaker 4 Well, my biggest thing is I'm such a quarterback hater. Like, I hate them until I like them.
You know, they've got to win me over, and so I don't want to spew a lot of hate early.

Speaker 4 I want to be a little bit neutral on some of these guys early, but then I'll be spewing, you know, as the season goes on.

Speaker 1 So have you watched all the young young quarterbacks and like studied tape on them?

Speaker 4 I mean, I've watched them like you've watched them. I don't, like, Richard Sherman grinds.

Speaker 4 He's like me and him are going to be sitting next to each other, like, grinds over the all-22 tape and is just, and as a player, you do that.

Speaker 4 But for me now, I almost like watching the TV copies better. Yeah.

Speaker 4 What is the audience seeing? What are they hearing?

Speaker 4 And then, yeah, I could have my takes from that. But he's grinding over that.
I'd much rather just watch the game unfold on TV and formulate my opinions out there.

Speaker 3 Yeah, the Nickelodeon games, too. You're going to get to see the slime zone for the first time.
You're going to love watching football on television. I'm actually.

Speaker 4 I mean, I've never been able to do anything.

Speaker 3 I'm envious of you because you get to experience this for the first time a Sunday. That's just like you on your couch watching Red Zone.
Oh my God, do you know about the Red Zone?

Speaker 1 That channel?

Speaker 3 You get to see every touchdown. It's incredible.
Really?

Speaker 1 Yeah, as it happens live.

Speaker 1 Scott Hanson. It's going to be awesome.
You were the king of the red zone for a while where it would just be like late. Your team was down 14.
Like, here comes Ryan Fitzpatrick. And sometimes

Speaker 3 there were a few times I think we got into it with Ceciliano because he was like, and Ryan Fitzpatrick has the Bucs in the red zone, and there's an interception. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then we'll be like, God damn it, Ceciliano. You can't do that.

Speaker 3 He set you up. That guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He can't have it.

Speaker 3 You're a believer in Jameis, though, aren't you?

Speaker 1 I am.

Speaker 1 You know what, though? You know what?

Speaker 4 Well, yeah, I know you guys like his videos and everything. But Jameis won of one.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you've read the literature.

Speaker 4 You know what? And we can give you a hot take on Jameis right now. Like, the thing,

Speaker 4 it's almost difficult for me to watch him play now because he's not really playing his brand of football. Like, it's so tame and almost like they've scaled it back so much for him.

Speaker 4 Not in terms of mental capacity and what he can do, but like with the short passes and try to make him, you know, Drew Breeze like that.

Speaker 1 That's not really who he is. You got to let Jameis free.

Speaker 6 You got to let him be. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because Wayne's

Speaker 4 We don't need 30 picks in a year, but Jameis, 15 picks is okay because he's going to throw the ball down the field and make plays.

Speaker 4 But some of it is tough to watch now because it's not even really the same

Speaker 4 guy.

Speaker 1 He is our last hope because

Speaker 1 we lost Big Ben. We lost Philip Rivers.
Eli had some unintentional comedy. Jameis is the king of unintentional comedy at this point for us.
So we need him to be Jameis.

Speaker 1 He can't going to just do it.

Speaker 3 He's great because he does have these plays where you just laugh out loud because you've never seen like a human body flail out in the ways that it does.

Speaker 3 But then he also has the plays that take your breath away where

Speaker 3 he spins around four times in the pocket and then throws the ball into quadruple coverage and the guy comes down with catchdowns. And it's incredible.
So we need Jameis. I agree.

Speaker 3 We need to free Jameis because he's at his best when he is doing stuff like, I mean, 30 and 30. I know you say you don't need 30 interceptions, but I kind of need, That's incredible.

Speaker 3 30 touchdowns and 30 interceptions.

Speaker 4 It's a lot more fun to watch. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I don't think you'll ever see that again. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was special. It was.
It was special. All right.
So give us a hot take about a quarterback. Media guy.

Speaker 1 You're going to get backlash, too.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, whatever I say, I'm going to get backlash. I mean, can you give me a guy to talk about or do you just want me to like.

Speaker 1 Let's talk about Joe Burrow. Who are you injuring? Talk about Joe.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 So I, so Joe Burrow is a great example of a guy I wanted to hate. I wanted to hate,

Speaker 4 you know, at LSU, he had all the talent. Like, look at who he was throwing to at LSU.
He comes in, lights it up. Like, okay, now you're going to come in.
You're going to have a hard time.

Speaker 4 This is the NFL dude.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 4 he didn't have a hard time. Yeah.
It was like he just picked up where he left off, you know, the injury and whatever else, but they picked up where he left off in college.

Speaker 4 And like, football is not easy. Playing quarterback is not easy.
And Joe Burrow, like, makes it look very, very easy. But that dude throws it down the field.

Speaker 4 Like, he's not one of a lot of these new age quarterbacks is like efficiency and we're throwing the five-yard passes and like it's Burroughs or Burrow.

Speaker 1 Is there an S for Burrow? So like Burrow

Speaker 4 throws the ball down the field and his the core of receivers that he has right now like nobody really talks about T.

Speaker 4 Higgins, but my God, if you watch that dude, the way he catches the ball, incredible. And so Joe Burrow, to me, is a guy I wanted to hate, but absolutely love watching play.

Speaker 4 I'd say he's in my top three.

Speaker 1 Ooh, okay. Give us the rest of the top three.

Speaker 4 I always have to leave like a dangle top three. I can't tell you the other two.
Okay, all right.

Speaker 1 So tell me.

Speaker 3 You've got five guys in the top three.

Speaker 1 It's smart.

Speaker 4 I don't ever want to define the top three.

Speaker 1 What about Justin Herbert? Because I like Justin Herbert, but he also hasn't been in the playoffs yet. And it feels like a lot of the media is anointing the Chargers.
And it's like, I want to see it.

Speaker 1 I want to see them win games that they're supposed to win, win games in different ways.

Speaker 4 I want to see it before I'm like, yeah, this team is a Super bowl team yeah and so we our first game is going to be week two september 15th thursday night and we got the chargers and the chiefs and so we're looking at you know two of the top three top five oh um okay two of the three young two of the young young guys right quarterbacks two of the top three five eight quarterbacks um

Speaker 4 but

Speaker 4 so

Speaker 4 i went out to LA and I was doing a little thing with Justin Herbert to talk with him, you know, to set up the game and whatever else. One of those fun media.

Speaker 4 He doesn't do media. Yeah.
He just doesn't. And it's not like, I mean, he's a very nice kid.
Like,

Speaker 4 I met him at the Masters a few years ago. Awesome.
Fun to talk to.

Speaker 1 As soon as the camera showed up, no, he was nothing out.

Speaker 4 Like, wasn't saying anything, wasn't interacting. Like, people are diving in front of my questions to answer for him.
It was, it was odd, but he's all ball all the time, and he is much bigger.

Speaker 4 Like if you see the dude in person, I mean, he is enormous.

Speaker 4 So, you know, physically, when you look at him versus other guys that maybe were drafted ahead of him, one in particular, like physically, I don't know that there's much of a comparison,

Speaker 4 but I think it was a lot of the, you know, some of the stuff you heard about his personality and being an introvert and, you know, standing alone at practice at Oregon and not talking to anybody.

Speaker 4 That was a huge huge turnoff for some of these teams.

Speaker 4 But he's obviously exceeded expectations very early with the way he plays.

Speaker 1 So question off of that, you know were in the NFL for so many years. Would you tell young guys like, hey, lighten up? Would you try to tell people?

Speaker 1 Because there does feel, there are definitely some quarterbacks that, and this goes for every sport, where the athletes feel like, I don't want the media is the enemy.

Speaker 1 I don't want to be a part of this. I don't want to be like, you only have a certain shelf life of people wanting to ask you questions.

Speaker 1 You'd think like at some point you'd be like, hey, let's have some fun with it. Would you tell guys to do that or no?

Speaker 4 Well, so Justin Herbert's a great example.

Speaker 4 And I didn't really get to talk to him after, you know, the cameras are done rolling of like

Speaker 4 people want to see you. They want to know about you because you're so dang good at throwing the football and playing quarterback.
Like you don't have to be fake for the media. Just be yourself.

Speaker 4 It's okay if cameras are there, but just be yourself because people are so interested in you, the human being. And when people can see that human side of you, like it just makes it more interesting.

Speaker 4 Yes. People want to root for you.
So

Speaker 4 my biggest thing with young guys was like you have to be yourself.

Speaker 4 You have to be authentic because if you're trying to be somebody you're not, if you're doing the social media stuff and it just in the locker room, it comes across as fake, then it's just, it's not going to work out for you.

Speaker 4 So be yourself, but you know, this is a profession you have to take serious, but it's also something you need to enjoy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

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And now here's more Ryan Fitzpatrick. All right, here's a big media question for you.
Deshaun Watson, talk about it. Who?

Speaker 3 Go for it.

Speaker 4 Deshaun Watson.

Speaker 1 No, you don't actually have to talk about this. You don't have to get to it.

Speaker 3 I think we've said everything that needs to be said. You were ready to do it, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you were.

Speaker 4 He's not going to be in our game. We've got Pittsburgh, Cleveland early.
And so I'm going to have to talk more about Jacoby Prissette, I think.

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 That'll save everybody.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 But the other guy that there's another guy that you played with, I think you alluded to him a second ago.

Speaker 3 Tell us for the Tua believers out there.

Speaker 1 Tuanon. I'm a member of Tuan.

Speaker 3 Big Cats and Tuanon. Wow.

Speaker 1 Expect us.

Speaker 3 I'm not. I'm too agnostic, I think.
I don't know. I don't know what to expect about him.
But just give somebody something to look forward to.

Speaker 3 Like, what does Tua do better than most quarterbacks can be?

Speaker 1 Be careful.

Speaker 4 I'm listening. No, I get it.

Speaker 4 I get how dicey of an opinion

Speaker 4 every opinion is around Tua. So if you're a top 10 quarterback, you have to have at least one trait that is absolutely special,

Speaker 4 something you can do that really nobody else can do. Josh Allen, I think we all see the arm talent.
We see the way he can scramble and run, the hits that he can take, the hits he can deliver.

Speaker 4 Herbert, physically, same thing. With Tua, it's not the arm strength.
It's not the ability to run. It's not the ability to scramble or get out of trouble.
So what is it?

Speaker 4 You know, people would say, well, he's a winner. Tyreek Hill said he's the most accurate quarterback I've ever seen.

Speaker 4 Now, when I first saw Tua, what popped out to me, because it's hard for a young quarterback to come in and do this, anticipation and accuracy. Like, those are the things that he has to be elite at.

Speaker 4 And I think that he is very, very good at, very accurate, and can anticipate.

Speaker 4 The problem is

Speaker 4 sometimes you have to create, and he can't, he's not going to be able to scramble and he'll be able to scramble, get out of trouble, and get you five yards, but he's not going to be able to scramble around, escape the pocket, and make the big plays down the field.

Speaker 4 So he has to take what he has that's elite is his accuracy, and hopefully as he gets better, his decision-making, and he has to be the best in the NFL at it because he's limited in some of those other ways.

Speaker 1 That's a great answer. So off of that,

Speaker 1 if you had to rank what you would want in a quarterback, what's number one? Is it always arm talent?

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 4 And this is

Speaker 4 the reason that I think Josh Allen is the best quarterback in the NFL,

Speaker 4 because all of these guys are talented. They all have strong arms.

Speaker 4 If you can throw the ball 60 yards, which they all can, like how many times are you going to see Josh Allen throw the ball 80 yards in a game? Never.

Speaker 4 Maybe we'll see him in warm-ups throwing it at the goalposts or something. But as long as you can put the ball 60 yards on the money, usually you're not throwing it much farther than that.

Speaker 4 But for me, and the reason that some of these guys really bug me, and the reason that I love a guy like Josh Allen, we've got the talent.

Speaker 4 He's also the dude that sits in the locker room, and he's just a dude. He can just be.
Carson Palmer, for me, when I was young, watch the way that he was. He's just a dude.

Speaker 4 And he was a Heisman Trophy winner. He was a number one pick, but everybody loved just being around him.
And

Speaker 4 if the leader of your football team can do that and is that human being, then it just resonates with everybody and sets a tone in the building. So Josh isn't going to have his private office.

Speaker 4 Like I think maybe a Denver quarterback now has his private office and doesn't shower with the team.

Speaker 3 Russell Wilson doesn't shower with the team?

Speaker 4 No, I don't know that.

Speaker 1 It's something he breaks news here.

Speaker 4 Hypothetically, there are certain guys.

Speaker 3 Russell Wilson is afraid to shower.

Speaker 4 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not.

Speaker 1 I'm not trying to create news. I'm not showing you by fire.
I'm not trying to create news here.

Speaker 4 All I'm saying is, like,

Speaker 4 if you've got guys that are so important and put themselves as so important that they now are separating themselves from the locker room, which is the most important part of a team,

Speaker 4 then they fall down on my list a little bit.

Speaker 1 Would it be fair to say that the quarterback doesn't have to be the leader of the team, but it's a hell of a lot easier if he is?

Speaker 4 Yeah, and I think we're going to see this year in L.A. with the Chargers.

Speaker 4 chargers justin herbert is the leader of that team because of his talent right but he is not a vocal leader he he can have people follow him by the way that he plays but he's not the leader in that locker room in terms of the way that he presents himself or talks or you know he's not going to get up and give a speech before a game and even if he did like that's not him like even for some of these other guys like if it's not you then it's not going to come across as real.

Speaker 4 Um, it makes it easier if the quarterback is that person.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so three guys that fall into that list. You mentioned Josh Allen.
I think most people would say Patrick Mahomes falls into that list too.

Speaker 3 And Lamar Jackson, absolutely beloved in that locker room. So, um, we're going to do the media thing where we make you pick one.

Speaker 3 And by implication, you're also disrespecting the other two that you pick. Yeah.
So if you were to build, start a team from scratch right now, you're building around one of those guys for the future.

Speaker 3 Who are you going with?

Speaker 4 Your choice, but choices are

Speaker 1 Lamar, Lamar, Josh, and Patrick.

Speaker 4 Patrick. I mean, I'll go Josh just because of what I just said about him.
I will say

Speaker 4 I'm super excited to watch Patrick Mahomes this year without Tyreek because, obviously, we know how special Kelsey is.

Speaker 4 We know the relationship they have there, golfing buddies, you know, and hanging out and all that, which is important. Relationship off the field, important on the field.
Cooper Cup realized that.

Speaker 4 Best friends with Matthew Stafford.

Speaker 1 Breakfast Club. We were early on on.
And Breakfast Club.

Speaker 4 And look, targets start to go up a little bit. You start to get him his coffee, like targets.

Speaker 4 So that really does translate to the field a little bit.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 I would just say Kansas City is going to be super interesting this year because I don't know. Andy Reid is magical.
Patrick Reed, or Patrick Reid. Oh, my God.
Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 1 The extra money. Patrick Reed

Speaker 1 steals money from his teammates.

Speaker 4 Patrick Mahomes is absolutely magical. So we will see what happens there.
But they're obviously going to win at least 10 games. But, you know, I don't know how far they can go.

Speaker 1 Is Mahomes your two in the league? Second best floor rubber? Yeah, yeah. So then, so Brady and Rodgers are not in your top three.

Speaker 4 No, they both aren't.

Speaker 1 You're just tricking me.

Speaker 3 Like, my top three.

Speaker 4 Like, Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady are definitely in my top three. Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You're top three homes and Allen and Burrow.
And Joe Burrow.

Speaker 3 And what about Lamar?

Speaker 4 Yes, Lamar is also top three.

Speaker 1 This is smart. Yes.
Do you think? Do you think?

Speaker 4 I will say, like, because we were doing this,

Speaker 4 me, Richard Sherman, Tony Gonzalez, Andrew Whitworth, and Carissa Thompson were all kind of having this discussion.

Speaker 4 And there's definitely like a, once you have to get to like number 10, then it becomes difficult. Like, because there's a clump of like six of them,

Speaker 4 you know, like Car and cousins and where you're like, there's six of those guys that aren't in the category we're talking about right now.

Speaker 4 But like Carr's actually a guy that is slowly moving in the right direction for me that I disliked for a long time. Yeah, I'm starting to like.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 3 You got to make a beard bet. I feel like that's something you have to do in media now.
It's like, I will shave my beard.

Speaker 4 But me, I think me and you did something last. We made some bet last year.

Speaker 3 If you went to playoff games, and you had

Speaker 4 a hell of a half. Well, yeah, I mean, it was that first quarter.
You came out. I think we kicked the field goal, even maybe.

Speaker 1 Yeah, took an early lead, I think.

Speaker 3 That was tough.

Speaker 1 I wanted to go back to something you said about the locker room and how important it is.

Speaker 1 Do you think, like, obviously football has evolved and the way we talk about it has evolved, and people are a lot smarter about how they talk about football, analytics, everything.

Speaker 1 Do you think that human element still trumps everything else when it comes to numbers?

Speaker 1 Because that's the part that always interests me about sports is like letdown games or the team that has no chance. Everyone wrote them off, but they're able to do something.

Speaker 1 Like the locker room and how it comes together. Is that would you say that's more important than numbers and all these, like, hey, when should we go on fourth down and everything?

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah, I think it is. And that's, you see, teams every year, and the Chargers are a good example.
We're going to revamp the defense.

Speaker 4 So they, they bring in, you know, Mac and they bring in the run stuffer from L.A. They bring in all these names, JC Jackson.
But there's a culture in the locker room, and it's all got to fit.

Speaker 4 And so for me, when I look at it and I'm looking at teams, you need like those pillars, like those guys.

Speaker 4 We'll use another example since I've been talking about the Bills a lot. Um,

Speaker 4 let's uh let's say Baltimore is an example, like Lamar Jackson is a pillar on that team. Who else on that team is their pillar? Who are their guys on defense? Who are their other guys on offense?

Speaker 4 Because as soon as people come in, and Baltimore on defense had a great culture for a long time, like there's a standard that everybody else has to live up to, and there's a way that you need to act in the locker room, and there's a way that you need to act when you go on the road.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 these cultures and locker rooms are so important, and it's hard from the outside looking in to get a feel or a sense for a lot of that.

Speaker 1 What coached, because the Ravens, I would argue, is very much harbaugh, like similar to the Steelers, where the Steelers, like Tomlin is the culture and what he said.

Speaker 1 So, what coach did you have where it was like the culture and almost the pillar was the coach, not the players as much? Right.

Speaker 4 So, you know, my just my career,

Speaker 4 very interesting in that it was just shortstops everywhere, basically, right? And if I was there for more than a year, usually there was some coach getting fired. And so I had so much turnover.

Speaker 4 When I was in Cincinnati, Marvin Lewis had been there for a while and still was there after I left for a while. So

Speaker 4 maybe he was one that I had. You know, Mike Munchek, when I was in Tennessee, a guy that was a great player at Penn State and then a Hall of Fame player in the NFL and then goes on to be a good coach.

Speaker 4 He, for me, was like when I walked in that building, just from his presence,

Speaker 4 okay, I got it. I know what the standard is.

Speaker 4 This guy's all business.

Speaker 4 And I was there for a year and he got fired after that year. So, you know, whatever.

Speaker 1 But yeah. But I mean, that's, it's, I mean, we talked about like going with the Titans this year.
They're, everyone's like, oh, they're kind of going the wrong direction.

Speaker 1 And I keep going back to, but Vrabel is a coach that it seems like every time you write off the Titans, he finds a way to get his, the most out of his team.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think that's a great example.

Speaker 4 And I was with Vrabes in Houston when he was just the linebacker coach, but he was one of those guys very early on you could put your finger on and say, okay, this guy's going to be head coach.

Speaker 4 Like it's just a matter of time, whether it's going to be three years, five years, like this is it.

Speaker 4 And for a guy to be able to play at a high level like he did, and then go and become a coach, first of all, just to have the want to,

Speaker 4 I'm sure he made plenty of money to be like, okay, I want to coach this game and to do it with the passion that he has.

Speaker 4 He's also a culture guy where you walk in and you're like, wow, like this, okay, I know what to do. Like, I'm looking at you.

Speaker 1 This is it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Would you say Chan Gailey was the, was he the Fitzpatrick whisperer? Like, you and him were, you were together, what, three times?

Speaker 4 We were together three times.

Speaker 4 So, you know, Chan and I met when he was hired in Buffalo in 2010.

Speaker 4 Vicious three-way quarterback battle between me, Trent Edwards, and Brian Braum.

Speaker 4 You know, and it was just every day.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just battling. Yeah.
Big Cat's two-in-on.

Speaker 3 You're 4chan. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 But so I didn't start the first two games that year, and then I did for the next three years. But the interesting thing, so Chan, for me, is my favorite coach I've ever had.

Speaker 4 And a lot of that is just his belief in me and the offense that he ran and the way that there was some freedom with players and what we could do.

Speaker 4 One of the more bizarre moments of my career, though,

Speaker 4 I'm in Miami. We go through the tank for Tua season, and

Speaker 4 the offense coordinator gets fired. Chan gets hired.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 4 nobody asked me anything. Like, I was with the guy for three years.
He had been retired and living in Georgia and enjoying his grandkids and golfing.

Speaker 4 And, like, you would have thought maybe they just would have asked me, hey, what do you you think about this guy? Which I would have given them an answer that I'm giving you.

Speaker 4 Like I love Chan, like he's my favorite coach. But like zero, zero input.

Speaker 1 That is weird. It was bizarre.

Speaker 1 You just saw him one day when you walked down the hall. You're like, oh.

Speaker 4 No,

Speaker 4 they told me, oh, I'm high.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 3 Hey, hey, Chan.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 you probably went through a couple times in the last year and a half or so when people were trying to figure out, like, are you the motherfucker that Tom Brady was talking about? Yeah.

Speaker 3 When he said, like, you're keeping keeping this motherfucker for it it turns out you've been vindicated I think I don't think you were the motherfucker I think it was Carr yeah that seems like

Speaker 1 that's had to be me you think it was you yeah I feel like Brady respects you no zero respect would never shake my hand really

Speaker 4 he wouldn't shake your hand well the first time it just

Speaker 4 I mean I've told this story before but it just pisses me off because

Speaker 4 You're in Buffalo. You're playing New England.
They're kicking our ass every single year. They're beating us.
And

Speaker 4 we finally in 2011 knocked him off. It was right at the beginning of the season.
We had this like great start,

Speaker 4 and he threw five interceptions in the game, which was just wonderful to see. Every single one of them was like wonderful to see and run straight off.

Speaker 4 Like, no handshake, no, you know, quarterback, middle of the field, where the camera is. Okay, stay healthy, buddy.
You know, pat me on the head and let me go. Like, just ran straight off.

Speaker 4 So it just, it bothered me so much because there was no respect there. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And so it was like every time I played him after that, I was like, all right, like, I at least got, like, let's make this dude respect me.

Speaker 4 And ended up in New York with the Jets and with Miami beating him both. You know, the last one was especially sweet because it was the tank for two a year.
It was, you know, start out 0-7.

Speaker 4 Is this the worst football team of all time? They beat us by 40-something points at the beginning of the season. They needed to beat us to get home field advantage.

Speaker 4 And it was his last regular season game as a Patriot. And we go and we score at the end of the game and beat him.
And then Kansas City gets home field and they win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Did he shake your hand after that one?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think so. I think I probably.
So you earned your research.

Speaker 1 I probably got it.

Speaker 4 I probably initiated it, yes.

Speaker 1 You were probably. Because you won.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you spread it right over to him. But I think on the last reading of it, it seems like they were talking about Derek Carr.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Because he was going to go to the Raiders.

Speaker 4 Regardless, I'm making shirts that say I am the motherfucker.

Speaker 3 Okay, yeah.

Speaker 3 If you believe that you're the motherfucker, I think that you'll be able to.

Speaker 1 You'll fuel you. Yeah, for Prime.
You'll be ready to go. You just have a chip on your shoulder.

Speaker 4 No chip. I like the funny t-shirt.
So I just don't know if... I'm not sure with Amazon if...
On Prime Video, can we wear a shirt that says I am that motherfucker?

Speaker 1 Yeah, or not. No, yes, definitely.
We'll try it out. Yeah,

Speaker 1 definitely can.

Speaker 4 Great media advice. That's perfect.

Speaker 1 Listen to everything we say. We'll set you the right thing.
That's perfect.

Speaker 3 You have anything nice you'd like to say about Jeff Bezos?

Speaker 1 He's got a a great body, right? Yeah, he does. He's jacked up.

Speaker 4 He's got a great body. But

Speaker 4 Andy Jassy is now

Speaker 4 in the driver's seat.

Speaker 3 Oh, okay. I'm a couple years behind on my news.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
So I had a couple last questions. I think I might have asked you this last year, but I'm going to ask it again because it relates now to media.

Speaker 1 Did you know when Fitzmagic was taking over? Were you like, oh, here it comes? This is the magic.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I really think so. Like, it really was just a feeling of invincibility.
And,

Speaker 4 you know, I think peak was Tampa,

Speaker 4 the beginning of that season in Tampa when Jameis was suspended for the first three games.

Speaker 4 Like, you can even see, if you go back to the Pittsburgh game on Monday night when we're losing, like, you can just see it. It's injected in my veins, and then it comes up into my eyes.

Speaker 4 And it just, that's it.

Speaker 1 It's magic. It's it.
So, do you think you'll have that same thing, like, when you just nail a segment on Prime Video?

Speaker 3 I think it's a good thing.

Speaker 4 So, I think once you see me start taking buttons down on my shirt, that's when you know it's kind of the sign, like, whoa, this is about to get good here. It's coming.

Speaker 1 Let the chest hair out.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah, I think that's going to be when it's at its peak.

Speaker 1 It always bothered me when people said FitzTragic, when it would then go poorly. Yeah, but that was often

Speaker 4 said it. Well, it was part of it.

Speaker 3 You didn't have the Fitzmagic without the FitzTragic.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. The Yin and the Yang.

Speaker 4 Yeah. And what?

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 4 quick seg or sidebar here. When they had the,

Speaker 4 there was a tournament in Jacksonville, like a gaming tournament for Madden, and there was the shooting. One of those kids,

Speaker 4 his gamer tag was FitzMagic 13 or something, and he got shot and is totally fine now. But I reach out to him.
He was a Jets fan.

Speaker 4 Anyway, like we kind of formed a relationship and like good dude. And he told me once, he said,

Speaker 4 it's not magic if it happens all the time. And I was like, dude, that is such a great way to think about it.

Speaker 4 That was kind of my career. It didn't happen all the time.

Speaker 4 But it's not magic if it does happen all the time.

Speaker 1 The magic happened all the time. You'd be a Hall of Famer.
Yeah. Who wants to do that? Who wants to know that? I mean, you want to know what I'm saying.
No, immortality.

Speaker 1 You want to go to like a lunch marketing.

Speaker 1 What is that?

Speaker 4 It just doesn't seem interesting to me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, you know, because you went to Harvard, that's an overachiever move.

Speaker 4 Well, and we probably would have lived in the same city. Like, what?

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. I mean, we toured the country.

Speaker 4 We had to pack our bags every year, pretty much.

Speaker 1 That's smart. Yeah.

Speaker 3 You are like the poster child for the hall of very, very good.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Like,

Speaker 3 you had a very good career and a fun career, too. Yes.

Speaker 1 Very fun. And you had

Speaker 3 the moments that we had. Like, what's your, you mentioned the start of that season in Tampa Bay.

Speaker 3 To me, when I think of Fitzmagic, it's actually a play when you were on the Dolphins at the end where you just threw that ball downfield with your head looking backwards.

Speaker 3 I would say that right there in a nutshell, that encapsulates Fitzmagic. Could you even see, were you looking behind yourself? Were you looking at the ground as you threw that?

Speaker 3 How far back was your head?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it got ripped pretty far back.

Speaker 4 But yeah, that was,

Speaker 4 I thought that was a great...

Speaker 4 That moment was incredible because that was one of those moments where I got benched early in the year.

Speaker 4 I just got thrown in the game, you know, against all odds, 18 seconds, and that happens, and we get in field goal range, and we win the game.

Speaker 4 And then I test positive for COVID the next day, and it was like it just encapsulated like my career. Like, I can never just be normal or steady.
Like, it just, you know.

Speaker 1 That would have been boring, though. Like, you know, it would have been boring.
I don't want a normal career. Yeah.

Speaker 3 You had, you were, you were one of one, Fitzmagic one of one.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, that's a fact.

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Speaker 1 We're veterans of the media business. We can give you...

Speaker 1 We can give you any advice you want right now. Okay.
Go for it. We'll tell you anything you want.

Speaker 4 Have you guys ever interviewed Richard Sherman before? No. No, you've never.

Speaker 4 Do we know Sherm?

Speaker 1 I'm familiar with his work.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 4 You're familiar with his work on and off, like, not just the football stuff, but maybe some of his takes and whatever.

Speaker 4 He's a Stanford guy, so yeah, Stanford guy, yeah, you know, his story that he played receiver and Harbaugh hated him, and he couldn't catch, yeah, he couldn't catch a lot of people, he couldn't catch.

Speaker 1 What do you mean?

Speaker 3 Well, I guess that's why he got moved to cornerback, right?

Speaker 4 No, because he could catch, he just, it was, there were some other issues, but I know that he can catch because I threw him multiple balls.

Speaker 1 Um, do you have a favorite interception?

Speaker 4 Uh, favorite interception, I'm sure I've got a few.

Speaker 1 Um,

Speaker 4 yeah, I just, I always liked, I always liked going at guy like Darrell Rivas because nobody ever threw at him, right?

Speaker 4 And for a good reason, but it was like, well, Stevie, let's see if we can go at this guy. Let's see how that works out.
And a lot of time with Reeve, it didn't work out great.

Speaker 4 But with other guys, you know, it's fun to challenge them sometimes.

Speaker 4 I would just say, like, I think

Speaker 4 this Thursday night football thing.

Speaker 4 Like, everybody's always just be authentic, be you, be real. Like, I get that part of it, but I do think me and Sherm, the back and forth, I think will be very interesting

Speaker 4 because he just sees the game so differently than I do and from a different perspective. But, I mean, what are some...

Speaker 4 I want to try to attack, you know, not just his character, but I just want to really be able to attack Sherm.

Speaker 4 Do we have any something about his hair, about his face, like any physical feature blemishes that I could go after?

Speaker 1 You could call him, I did love when Patrick Beverly went and called Chris Paul a traffic cone.

Speaker 1 And he, so you could just be like, yeah, at the end of your career, you were just a traffic cone out there. There were people running by you.
Yeah. Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 1 Just call him something like that.

Speaker 3 Just remind him that the only reason that the Seahawks were good is because they cheated every play.

Speaker 1 They were holding. Oh, you could call them Seaterall.
Yeah. The Seaterall Seahawks.
Yeah. That's a freaking one.
Okay, these are really good. Thank you, guys.

Speaker 1 I mean, just bring up anytime there's a run-pass situation that's obviously run, you could just keep hammering them on that.

Speaker 3 Yeah, what are you going to do? It's on the two-yard line.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Richard. Are you going to pass it? That will work.

Speaker 3 I'm pretty sure. Didn't he have a Viagra thing? Or is that somebody else in Seattle?

Speaker 1 I don't think I got pop for using Viagra. But that's the other thing: you don't have to actually have facts behind anything you say.
Yeah, you just say that. You learn that quickly.
You say it.

Speaker 1 And then if you have to correct it, actually, you don't even have to correct it. You just be like, wow, it was a joke.
Oh. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's great.

Speaker 1 No, no, it's great. It's the best way to do media.

Speaker 4 Okay, I'll put that in my, that's one of my top three things of advice.

Speaker 1 Yeah, either you're right or it was just a joke. Yeah.
You never

Speaker 1 been beat. I was obviously kidding.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 So Richard Sherman did, yeah, he took Viagra and I think Adderall at the same time.

Speaker 1 That was like a hell of a combination. Yeah.
Yeah. Just yeah, maybe start the first like Chiefs, Chiefs

Speaker 1 Chargers first Thursday night that you're doing. Just be like, damn, that game was so much fun.
I felt like I took Viagra and Adderall at the same time. Wow.
That's dead air.

Speaker 4 So it's been a lot of fun getting to know him, though. I didn't know him very well just from playing against him.

Speaker 1 That's going to be a great dynamic. Super good dude, dude.
Yeah. And wait, who's hosting it?

Speaker 4 It's Carissa. We've got Carissa Thompson.
She's our friend. And Tony Gonzalez.

Speaker 4 Andrew Whitworth kind of be in and out a little bit.

Speaker 1 Carissa will check you, too.

Speaker 4 Carissa's tough, man.

Speaker 4 She's funny. She's definitely a firecracker for sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Kind of a psycho.

Speaker 4 But she knows, I mean, you can talk to somebody that knows her stuff. Oh, and she was a huge Seattle fan growing up.
But she has been very fun to get to know.

Speaker 1 There's going to be some bias there. Yeah.
You've got to be careful. careful, break that up.

Speaker 4 Carissa already broke my 11-year-old daughter, made her cry in an interview. Like, so I'm never gonna let her live that day.

Speaker 1 What did she do?

Speaker 4 She asked my 11-year-old, she was wearing a jersey that said Fitzmagic on the back, and she said, What does Fitzmagic mean to you?

Speaker 1 Which is a tough question.

Speaker 4 We're an 11-that was her initial, like, not, hey, Lucy, nice to meet you. I'm Carissa.
It was like, What does Fitzmagic mean to you? Microphone in her face.

Speaker 4 And she just went eight, nine, 10 seconds, and lost it. Full tears, other room, like we're seeing a therapist.

Speaker 1 So it just.

Speaker 1 It's tragic.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that was tough. But, yeah,

Speaker 4 Carissa's not

Speaker 4 very,

Speaker 4 you know, for my daughters at least, they don't really look up to her at this point.

Speaker 3 Well, the first time she came on this show, she kind of did the same thing.

Speaker 1 She bodied us. She made fun of us.

Speaker 3 She made fun of the backgrounds in our apartments.

Speaker 1 She's tough, man. She called me chill.

Speaker 3 I think she called me poor. She was like, why do you have a laundry machine behind you?

Speaker 1 But if you ever get a chance to go out with her, she's very fun when the cameras are off, like hanging out, like going out to dinner.

Speaker 4 Well, I would tell you, so maybe the best part about this job, if we can call it that, is like last weekend, we did the Thursday night game, went to the hotel bar or whatever, and Al Michaels is just holding court, like talking.

Speaker 4 And you could just listen to him, just his voice. I don't care what he's talking about,

Speaker 4 but the stories, I mean, his memory is unbelievable. We're talking like the name of the cab driver 40 years ago when he was at a game.
He'll give you the exact day and whatever else.

Speaker 4 And it's just being able to just sit back and listen to him has been really fun as well.

Speaker 3 He doesn't eat vegetables at all. No veggies.
Just straight up meat. No, no, no.

Speaker 1 And he eats it during the dinner.

Speaker 3 He's like dark liquor, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he eats dinner during the game.

Speaker 4 He's never had a vegetable in his life. That's great.

Speaker 3 It's incredible.

Speaker 1 That's someone everyone should look up to.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think so, too. It hasn't been talked about enough.

Speaker 1 He's a carnivore.

Speaker 3 He's quite literally the last remaining carnivore.

Speaker 1 Dude loves me. Yes, yes.
All right. Well, Ryan, we're rooting for you.
We're excited to watch you. Maybe we'll come back at the end of the season.
Let us know how it went. Yeah.
We'll be watching.

Speaker 1 If you mess up, we will

Speaker 1 be on you.

Speaker 4 But don't, yeah, but just like send me a text or something.

Speaker 1 Don't like put it out.

Speaker 4 Just alert me first.

Speaker 1 We're going to thumbs up it? Well,

Speaker 1 or thumbs down, depending on what you tell me. But like, we're in this together now.
Okay, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 The first one we'll do off-air.

Speaker 1 But then after that, just give me one.

Speaker 3 We have a dedication to our audience, yeah.

Speaker 4 Just give me one, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 And then after that, we're just going perfect.

Speaker 1 I might just, you know, what we'll do this as a favor to you because we consider you a friend and your recurring guest.

Speaker 1 When you start on Thursday, your first show, we'll just tweet out, did Ryan Fitzpatrick really just say that? And with no context, perfect. Yeah.
Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 But then it'll be great.

Speaker 3 You owe us. You have to at least give us the first team that calls you, you have to just let us know.

Speaker 1 I'll give you the scooters. Yeah, the second I get a call.
I'll give you the skills. Let us know because, I mean,

Speaker 3 you're an econ major, right? Yeah. Supply and demand.
Right now, there's a big demand for Fitzmagic, and you control the entire supply. Yeah, so you can really work that to your own favorite.

Speaker 1 Yeah, let us break that.

Speaker 3 Let us break that, and then we'll get

Speaker 4 like the mafia. I think my oldest son was happy I retired so he didn't have to keep drafting me in fantasy with his first pick.
So now, like, he's got a chance this year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he definitely can win.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but we'll protect you.

Speaker 1 You're protected. You're part of of our family now.

Speaker 1 But yeah, we will, what is that? I think 10, 15% of your salary?

Speaker 3 15% of your salary. We got 15% from Job.
15% of your salary.

Speaker 1 And we will protect you at all costs. That sounds great.
We'll go to the end of the earth to protect you. Yeah.
Yeah. All right.
So, cash? Or? Well, I'll just board apes.

Speaker 4 You can send it to us in Board Apes. I'll pay out in prime memberships.

Speaker 1 Okay, perfect membership.

Speaker 1 I love that.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, thanks so much, Ryan.
We appreciate it. Good luck this year.
All right. Thanks, guys.
Thank you, Ryan.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we got a new segment alert.

Speaker 1 Everyone, it's the hot, the hot new thing. Everyone's got a quarterback on their show.

Speaker 1 Midweek, we did have Ryan Fitzpatrick, but a current quarterback. Well, no, I guess this isn't a current.

Speaker 1 We're going to stick with this. Maybe he might be.

Speaker 3 Yeah. You'll have to listen to the interview to find out.
Yeah, so we have Big Ben.

Speaker 1 Talking boot with Big Ben.

Speaker 3 Putting on the talking boot.

Speaker 1 Putting on the talking boot with Big Ben. Let's do it.
Okay, inside the talking boot

Speaker 1 with big ben it's the new hotness every podcast has decided they need a quarterback on once a week to make sure that they're uh i don't know what i don't i actually don't know the reasoning behind it

Speaker 3 i i think i know the reasoning behind it it's because aaron rods did it and so i i think what we're gonna find out is um

Speaker 3 Most quarterbacks, you don't really want them as a guest on your podcast once a week.

Speaker 3 I think a podcast is sometimes good when there's not a quarterback.

Speaker 1 I'd agree. And we did have Ryan Fitzpatrick on, but he's part of the media.

Speaker 1 I also, I'm very interested to see, and I used to love this move.

Speaker 1 My guy, Jay Cutler, he used to do a weekly spot on Waddle and Sylvie every,

Speaker 1 I think it was maybe Monday or Tuesday. And when the Bears season,

Speaker 1 as it always does, hit a low point, he would just send Kyle Longer Brandon Marshall. So by like the entire second half of the season, it was just not him.

Speaker 1 So I wonder like that's that's such a power move to be like, yeah,

Speaker 1 I don't really want to talk about all these losses. So I'm just going to send someone else.
So that like let's see which one of these quarterbacks who does a podcast every week is up to

Speaker 1 the don't care attitude to just start sending teammates instead of himself when things just kind of fall apart.

Speaker 3 So I've got an idea of how we can handle this because people are going to be like, yo, why aren't you getting your friends on the show?

Speaker 3 And to be honest with you, we haven't asked anybody to do it because it's good when they come on like once or twice a year.

Speaker 3 But again, I feel like most good podcasts, people listen to them for the interviews occasionally, but not to have like a third host involved all the time.

Speaker 3 Now, my idea was we could either, one, just steal their audio from the good part and play their audio in our podcast and cuck it that way and take all the good parts for ourselves, or we could just do like we could ask Blake Bortles one question per week, down for that.

Speaker 3 And we'll have Blake Bortles on the show every Wednesday, yeah, and just like hit him up, ask literally one question, have him answer, and then hang up. And that's it.
That's our weekly Blake Bortles.

Speaker 1 Wait, so

Speaker 1 let's see, let's see if he's around because maybe we should just do that right now. That sounds funny.

Speaker 1 We were going to play Big Ben stuff, but that would be really funny if we just had Blake.

Speaker 1 Let's see.

Speaker 1 What should our question? Let's figure out what our one question is.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, good point.

Speaker 3 Let's see.

Speaker 3 One question for Blake Bortles. It could be anything, anything in the world.
Do you think Queen Elizabeth is in heaven?

Speaker 1 And then maybe like a follow-up question.

Speaker 1 If he says no,

Speaker 1 do you believe in heaven?

Speaker 3 Okay, actually, how about this? I feel like we don't want to blow this interview. Yeah, this is big time stuff.
This could be big for the podcast.

Speaker 3 You could ask him, do you think Queen Elizabeth is in heaven? I feel like that's an easier way, like that. That's a softer intro to him.
And then if he says

Speaker 3 yes, then you say, Well, do you believe in hell?

Speaker 1 Perfect, perfect. Okay.
All right. So, and I'll also, it won't count as the question, but I'm also going to ask, can you come on every week to do one question? That won't count as the question.

Speaker 3 Okay, that doesn't count. That's a different

Speaker 3 okay.

Speaker 1 Come on, Blake. Please pick up.

Speaker 1 I'll try the phone call after the FaceTime because FaceTime's an abrasive move.

Speaker 3 It's aggressive. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's an aggressive move at 9 p.m. at night.

Speaker 3 Yep.

Speaker 3 Fuck.

Speaker 3 Should we just go through the list of famous people on our phones and keep

Speaker 1 asking our own phone?

Speaker 3 Maybe weekly guests on their show.

Speaker 1 I'm going to calm them.

Speaker 1 Hopefully this works.

Speaker 1 And then maybe we can try to get him on Zoom once a week. But that's also the problem.
That's a lot of scheduling. That sucks.

Speaker 1 For everyone involved.

Speaker 1 Fuck. Come on, Blake.
I should have called him before.

Speaker 1 Great planning by us.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry. Ah.
Damn it.

Speaker 3 Should I call.

Speaker 1 Okay. Should I call DK? No, no, no.
I think it's got to be a quarterback. Let's just...

Speaker 1 I love the Blake Blake idea. We should make it Blake.
Let me just see. Let's.
Who's

Speaker 1 the funniest quarterback we have in our phone?

Speaker 3 I kind of do want to just call DK. I haven't talked to him in a while.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I think we got to keep up with the Joneses.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 3 Let's see. Morton Anderson.
He's not a quarterback.

Speaker 1 All right. This is becoming.

Speaker 1 Let's see.

Speaker 1 I call Graham Mertz.

Speaker 1 Don't say it. I know you want to say he's not a quarterback either.
That's mean.

Speaker 1 Good call, Cuddy.

Speaker 3 He played quarterback.

Speaker 1 Oh, why don't we call Jared? Oh, yeah, we called Jared. All right.
All right. Good call.
Good call. And that one guy who tweets me every day saying it's been this many days since you've had Jared on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, let's get Jared on the phone.

Speaker 1 All right, hold on. Now I have one of those issues where I have

Speaker 1 his number. You would be surprised, but like famous people and quarterbacks and like

Speaker 1 stars, they change their number a lot.

Speaker 1 And then you might get frozen out forever. All right, I'm calling Jared.

Speaker 1 What's our one question for Jared, though? Do you do you know where Blake is?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 Can you ask Blake if we'll come on the show?

Speaker 1 You're calling him. No.
Oh, no. Hold on.
I have another Jared number.

Speaker 3 Okay. This would suck.

Speaker 1 Here we go.

Speaker 1 You're calling. No.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 This is quickly becoming unusable audio. Oh, that made me sad because Jared Lorenzen's right next to him.
Oh, RIP. He's a bummer.

Speaker 1 Should we call Billy?

Speaker 3 Oh, he's a wide receiver. He's not a quarterback.

Speaker 3 He changed.

Speaker 1 We can call. Hold on, I'm going.

Speaker 3 Just call Matt. You know, Max Homeworld.

Speaker 1 I think I have Gardner Minshew's number somehow.

Speaker 1 I didn't.

Speaker 1 Have I ever texted him? Yeah, all right. Let's call Gardner Minshew.

Speaker 3 Should I call Joe Burrow and just be like, what the fuck? Yeah, sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah, give that a try. All right, okay.
This we'll do that, and then Gardner will be our backup. Not that he's a backup, he should be a starter, but he's a backup.

Speaker 3 Okay, should I ask Joe if we can ask him one question a week?

Speaker 1 Yeah, and then just be like, How annoying was Coward this week? This is just now a new segment. Watch Big Cat and PFT get shunned.

Speaker 3 All right, here we go. Call.

Speaker 1 I do think Blake is the answer, though.

Speaker 1 Wait, what's it? I've never. Oh, hang on.

Speaker 1 Uh-oh.

Speaker 1 Uh-oh.

Speaker 1 It's gonna be bad.

Speaker 1 This is kind of thrilling, though. Just us calling, just playing phone roulette with quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 It's also kind of like the opposite of a flex because none of them are.

Speaker 1 And they're also like, besides like Josh and Joe and Jared.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 okay. All right.
I've never talked to Gardner Minshew on the phone. I could tell, I want to see Hank.

Speaker 1 Show your video right now. I want to see him shaking his head.

Speaker 1 I want to see Hank shaking. This is great.

Speaker 1 Okay. Gardner Minshew.
I've texted with him a few times, but I've never talked to him on the phone. Is this kind of a crazy move? Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 3 Joe Burrow just hit me back.

Speaker 1 What did he say?

Speaker 3 He said,

Speaker 1 What up? That means don't call me, dude.

Speaker 1 That means don't call me. Hang on.

Speaker 3 I'm going to say we're trying to keep up with Coward, and we just have, we're hoping we could ask you one question so we could say that Joe Burrow's on the podcast.

Speaker 1 Yeah, sure.

Speaker 3 Does that work?

Speaker 1 I could call Jim Harbaugh.

Speaker 3 Okay, let's see.

Speaker 3 Let's see if he gets back.

Speaker 3 Should you text Gardner first?

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 I think the thrill of just... Oh, Kenny.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He would definitely pick up.

Speaker 4 He would.

Speaker 3 Now I'm nervous.

Speaker 3 Now that's. It's a big question.
I just...

Speaker 1 I don't know how we're going to edit this. Probably just take everything out.

Speaker 3 Probably.

Speaker 3 I'm mostly disappointed that Blake didn't pick up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, he's probably doing something really sweet, if we're being honest.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he is.

Speaker 1 Tommy Reese, Ryan Leaf, just looking for quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 Not really who's who.

Speaker 1 Oh, Jared's calling me back. Here we go.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Jared.

Speaker 1 What's up? Dude,

Speaker 1 we're, I don't know if you've noticed, but like every podcast is having a quarterback on every week. Okay.

Speaker 1 So we want to have, we were going to have Blake on for one question every week, but we called him. He didn't pick up.
So you're just going to be on this week for one question. Is that cool? Sure.

Speaker 1 All right. So you're on right now.

Speaker 1 What was our one question, PFT?

Speaker 3 Our question was going to be: do you think Queen Elizabeth is in heaven?

Speaker 1 Do you think Queen Elizabeth is in heaven?

Speaker 1 I hope so. Okay, but follow up.
I know this is part of the first question. Do you believe in hell?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Okay.
All right. So, there was one question with Detroit Lions starting quarterback Jared Goff, our good friend.
Um, tune in next week. Jared, are you up for one question again?

Speaker 1 Maybe you and Blake can just go back and forth. Yeah, see, Blakey, Blake, uh, may have better answers than I do, but I can do it.
I can be second to Blake if he's not available.

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah, I like this. A little, a little role reversal.
Now, you're Blake's backup. There you go.
That's fine. All right.
Everything else good? That's not a question.

Speaker 1 That's just the friendship thing.

Speaker 1 All good, man. Thanks for calling.
All right, we

Speaker 1 miss you.

Speaker 1 Maybe we'll, I don't know. I want to see you soon.
We play the Bears a couple times. You may come, right? Yeah.
I'll come and I'll, I'll have to, I'll wear like split jersey, Jared Goff. All right.

Speaker 1 But it won't be split. It will just be a Bears jersey with your name on the back.
Perfect. Okay.
All right. See you, man.
See ya. Thanks.

Speaker 3 Fuck yes. We did it, boys.
Okay.

Speaker 3 We got a starting NFL quarterback.

Speaker 1 Yes. All right.
So, and I think this is a great plan going forward. Blake will be our mainstay.
One question with Blake Portals every Wednesday. And when he can't do it, Jared is our backup.

Speaker 3 That sounds good.

Speaker 1 I'd like to see every other show keep up with this shit.

Speaker 3 Jared's our main backup. And then whatever number is in your phone for Gardner Minshew.
And then after that,

Speaker 3 whatever excuse Joe Burrow has for not picking up our marketing.

Speaker 1 I kind of want to call Gardner Minshew.

Speaker 3 This is kind of funny. So

Speaker 3 I said, we just want to ask you one question so that we can say that you're on PMT tomorrow. And he's like, lol.
And I said, it's all good. Jared Goff just called back.

Speaker 3 It was a big race to see who would return calls fastest. And Joe Burrow says, damn it, I can't take another loss this week.

Speaker 1 It's fucked up. Yeah.
All right. So this is our new segment.
Every Wednesday, we're going to do one question with the quarterback.

Speaker 1 And it will be Blake. And then we'll just, anytime Blake can't, we'll figure out who.
Should I just try Gardner Mitchell just to see? Should I prank call him?

Speaker 3 Does he know your number?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Probably.

Speaker 1 All right. Let's call him.

Speaker 1 All right. This is not going to be awkward.

Speaker 1 I've never talked to him on the phone. Oh, man.
Okay. Okay.

Speaker 6 Here we go. No way he has your number saved.

Speaker 1 You're calling. Ah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 What do you what was it? What what did we even tell hey hey Dan this gardener minshew I'm ready to rock whenever you are Oh, that's when we interviewed him. So that was kind of it.

Speaker 3 All right. So that was actually a much better segment than what we had planned.

Speaker 3 I think we were planning on just using some of Big Ben's interview that he did on his podcast, Footballing, and then cutting that into our podcast. But I think this way is actually a lot better.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 3 So this has been Talking Boot, the Talking Boot segment. There was a very funny part of Big Ben's podcast, though, that I feel like we should at least address real quick.

Speaker 3 So I have a feeling that his pod is going to be him sipping beers calmly while watching football absentmindedly and occasionally telling a story about an injury. It's perfect.

Speaker 3 And the injury that he talked about this week was against the Bengals in that playoff game. You know, the one with Vontez Berfick when he laid out Antonio Brown.

Speaker 3 Maybe the most violent football game ever played. So, first of all, Big Ben was talking about getting carted into the locker room.

Speaker 3 He was getting driven off with the doctor, and somebody was like throwing beer and it hit his leg.

Speaker 3 Now, that's all well and good, but he was getting carted off with a shoulder injury so so he got onto the cart and then they wheeled him into the locker room and then he got off and he tried to throw a football to the trainer and he couldn't even lift his arm up it was a worse injury the doctor had ever seen you you sent the um video and you're like it starts here and i got caught up with some kids stuff so i then i turned it on like for one second before we sat down and i listened to like 10 seconds like i got the gist of this he's like i couldn't lift my arm arm.

Speaker 1 And then I just turned it off. I was like, yep, I know where this is going.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he said he couldn't lift his arm. It was the worst arm a doctor's ever seen.
And then he, and then he tried to throw a pass to the trainer, and he couldn't even lift his arm up to throw it.

Speaker 1 So then

Speaker 3 he was like, Doc, can I go back out there? And they said, you know what, Ben? You can, but you're not playing.

Speaker 3 You're just going back onto the sidelines, but there's no way that you can get back into this game.

Speaker 3 And so Ben goes out there, and then he hears the fans be like, oh, shit, shit, Big Ben's coming back. And he's like, they don't even know that I'm not even going to come back.

Speaker 3 I'm just going back out there to watch my guys and support them. And the doctor said there's no chance I can play.
So I stood on the sidelines.

Speaker 3 And then a couple drives later, I just kind of found myself back in the game.

Speaker 3 Willing the team down the field, doing shot putt style passes, not even really able to pass. They went back and asked him a second time, like, wait, Ben,

Speaker 3 how did you end up getting back in the game? Why did that happen? And he's like, I don't know. It's just like, you know, I was back there.

Speaker 1 And then next next thing i knew i was back in the game playing football they just tricked it they're like dude just go out in your your jersey you'll be fine and then it's like yeah just go out stand in the middle of the field uh you don't have to do anything you'll be fine oh yeah just go out and just take a quick snap you'll be fine he's like yeah now i just woke up and i'm playing football again yeah it was a it was a wild story so that's that's what we're going to do with the talking boot uh with ben rothelisberger but i'm I'm much happier, I think, having Blake Bordelis on the show.

Speaker 1 This is like vintage PMT to have have everyone have these high-level quarterbacks and we're going to just do one question. And I think I'm going to amend it a little.

Speaker 1 I think we go one question with Blake Bortles

Speaker 1 and we tell him it's only one question every week, but we all get one question.

Speaker 1 So Hank gets one, I get one, you get one, Billy gets one, Jake gets one.

Speaker 3 And Blake gets one.

Speaker 1 Yes, and Blake gets one. So we just

Speaker 1 tricked him into doing like five minutes with us every week. It'd be perfect.

Speaker 3 And wait, wait, tricking somebody into five minutes, that is actually like how this podcast starts.

Speaker 3 And then soon it'll be Blake Bortles on the show for 30 minutes. Correct.

Speaker 1 It's a joke that then the joke becomes on us. And then every, and then someone like

Speaker 1 awful announcing will write a year-end like podcast awards, and they'll be like, Coward had Burrow, Kyle Bran had Josh Allen, Pat McAfee had Rogers.

Speaker 1 And these guys come in fourth because they had Blake Bortles. But I don't give a fuck because I love this show.

Speaker 3 I do too.

Speaker 1 Okay, back to ourselves, guys on checks.

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Speaker 1 Okay, let's wrap up with Guys on Chicks. Hank, you got us some Guys on Chicks? By the way, Friday, we have a great interview with Danny and Lucy DeVito in studio.

Speaker 1 I still feel bad about them having to sit in this couch. So that was

Speaker 1 tough, but a great interview. They're great.
Yeah. Okay, go.

Speaker 6 Okay, so it's only week one, and I'm in a couple leagues with my boyfriend, his friends, and their girlfriends.

Speaker 1 Again, week one.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 6 Hank lost his mic. I just dropped my mic.

Speaker 1 Hank has limp mic problems.

Speaker 6 Most of us girls have outscored our boyfriends to the point where the guys are saying, well, this league isn't our competitive league anyways.

Speaker 6 They have a larger 12-team guys league with the single friends included. Or saying, well, we let y'all draft better.

Speaker 6 At what week would it be fair to assume that the girls are just better than the guys because we overanalyzed the draft and came in ready to prove we pay attention to football too?

Speaker 6 And we are just as good. Like, when can I roll over in bed and look my boyfriend in the eye and say, I'm better than you?

Speaker 1 Is it week four? Is it week six?

Speaker 6 Is it now? Any help is appreciated because I want them to take this league seriously, and I think shit talking is the only way to get them locked in instead of dismissing their eventual defeat.

Speaker 3 See, fancy football is one of those things where the more you read about it, the worse you get at it, usually.

Speaker 3 It's always the people that spend time, like Jerry O'Connell was telling us, like, he subscribes to all those different weird sites. He gets the magazines.

Speaker 3 The more time you invest into fancy football, actually, the worse you get at it. It's like March Madness brackets.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 3 Yeah, exactly. Like, the best way that you can do fantasy football is to just go with whatever the computer tells you, draft those players, and then try to have fun.

Speaker 3 The more seriously you take it, the more you'll overthink it and the more you'll screw yourself over.

Speaker 1 Minus the one, the one thing I would say is there always is one guy in the league who does, like,

Speaker 1 I think that I'm pretty normal, and you probably agree, PFT, like when we do fantasy drafts, by the time you get to like round nine, you're literally just drafting guys you recognize and there's one guy in your league who like actually knows depth charts and they're like, oh, this rookie wide receiver is going to pop.

Speaker 1 That guy usually is really good. But everyone else, yeah, you're right.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's kind of a waste of time, but we still love it. What you should do, actually, you and all the girlfriends should make like a fantasy football guide.

Speaker 1 together and explain why you drafted the people you drafted and then send it to all the guys in the league and be like hey here if you guys want to get better you can take some of our tips also the real answer to this question is fantasy football is very stupid because it's always the flukiest thing i don't think you can talk shit until like it's an all-girls semifinal or all-girls final.

Speaker 1 Because what will happen is there'll be some stupid injury or some stupid weather game and the team that's the best team in the league all year will lose in the first round of the playoffs and everyone can shit talk you back.

Speaker 1 So wait till it's like all girls in the semifinal, then unload the clip.

Speaker 1 And then knowing guys, they'll cancel the league forever.

Speaker 6 Sup guys, my boyfriend is a huge AWL and we've been together for about a year. I love this.
I love this question. This is guys.
This is guys being dudes at its finest.

Speaker 6 Recently, we moved in together, and I've noticed something peculiar about his cleaning habits.

Speaker 6 If he spills a drink or something, he will grab his dirty shirt off the ground from the night before to mop it up.

Speaker 6 Or sometimes he will take his towel that he just used from his shower, spray some cleaner on the counters, and use the wet towel to clean the countertops.

Speaker 6 I asked him about it and said that I thought it was gross. All he says is, I'm all about efficiency, baby.
Why dirty two things when I can just dirty one? Yeah. Am I wrong here or is is he?

Speaker 3 No, you're wrong. You're very wrong.
He's got a dirty shirt. It's not going to, it can't get more dirty.
It's already dirty. Guys, we think of our clothes in terms of it's very binary.

Speaker 3 It's like, are these jeans dirty or are they not dirty? Are they jeans? Are they jeans? And I've worn them only five days as opposed to six days.

Speaker 3 Once something becomes dirty, it can't possibly get more dirty. It's like getting more pregnant.
It's like, okay, the shirt is dirty. I'm going to use it because I'm going to wash it anyways.

Speaker 3 This guy's just, he's being, you're being unreasonable.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was going to say, like, I use socks all the time to clean up shit. I will take my clean sock off being like, I know it's going to be, I'm going to take it off eventually.

Speaker 1 So if there's a spill at 8 p.m. at night, sock off, clean it up.
It's way easier than getting up and getting a paper towel. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then be like, well, I'm going to, I'm not going to use this sock tomorrow anyway, so it's dirty.

Speaker 3 Have you ever pulled this move? You spill something on the ground or on the carpet? It's towards the end of the day. You're going to take your socks off.
And so you just keep your socks on.

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah. And then walk across the stain and then use your foot to use your sock to pick the stain up and then throw your socks off.

Speaker 1 I'll do that even if it's early in the day. If it's a manageable

Speaker 1 spill with a sock, I'll just, you know, I'm like my own mini Zamboni. Yeah, you just walk on it.

Speaker 3 Deal with it.

Speaker 3 You start like raking at it with your foot.

Speaker 1 It's very efficient. Easy.

Speaker 6 Hey, big cat. I think that's the ultimate.

Speaker 1 Girls,

Speaker 6 a lot of women don't, like, they would feel the same way, but it's like, I feel like a lot of guys are like, yeah, now it's just

Speaker 1 whatever you can do to clean up. They're just inefficient people.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Not to cast a wide net.

Speaker 6 Hey, Big Cat, PFT, Hank, Jake, Billy, and memes. I dated my now ex-boyfriend for almost three years.

Speaker 6 I recently caught him cheating and decided to break up with him. But he has concert tickets he bought for us a while ago.

Speaker 6 And he's now texting and even DMing me every day to try to convince me to still go with him. I honestly hate his guts, but I was really excited for this concert.
Should I go?

Speaker 6 I mean, the concert is.

Speaker 3 I need to know who it is. It's got to be we need to know who it is it's a bit it makes a big difference who's playing in this concert like if it's gaga

Speaker 1 yeah you gotta go you gotta go

Speaker 3 what about harry styles but

Speaker 6 you there's no way the guy i guess the guy probably if it's harry styles i think like that that implies that you're gonna hook up well if you go to the harry styles concert but there's no way a guy is like can we like let's go to this hair styles concert unless he's trying to go find other chicks.

Speaker 1 Well, I was going to say that if you I've watched enough rom-coms and gotten all my my relationship advice from Judd Appetow. If you go to this concert, there's like,

Speaker 1 I'd say 85% chance you guys get married. So that's just what's going to happen.
You're going to rekindle in the backdrop of a beautiful concert, and boom, you're married. Maybe even have a kid.

Speaker 1 You might even have a kid that night.

Speaker 3 It really depends on what concert it is, I think. Yeah.
If it's Limp Biscuit, he just probably wants to go rock out.

Speaker 3 I think he's actually using this concert as a lever to get back in the door in this relationship.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, of course. No, what you should actually do is you should ask him to be like, I'll go, transfer me the tickets.
I'll meet you there. Sell the tickets.
No show. Boom.
Take a new date.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's diabolical.

Speaker 6 What if it's the red-hot chili peppers?

Speaker 1 Hmm.

Speaker 3 He might want to rock out to that. Yeah, I'd go.

Speaker 1 I'd go.

Speaker 1 Alter ego help.

Speaker 1 Uh-oh.

Speaker 6 My boyfriend constantly says he wishes he didn't have such a plain name. His name is Mike.

Speaker 6 He said this for years, and I recently just discovered that he has created an alter ego of himself on multiple social media platforms. He's been calling himself Randall Gibbons online for months.

Speaker 6 Now that I found out

Speaker 6 about it, he even wants me to start calling him Randy. I'm worried this is going to leak over to real life, and I really don't want to be dating a Randy.
Send help.

Speaker 1 Randall Gibbons. Randall Gibbons.

Speaker 6 Is that a person?

Speaker 3 I'm looking up Randall Gibbons right now.

Speaker 1 No, I don't think

Speaker 3 there's an RV repairman.

Speaker 3 There is an RV RV repair man named Randall. Wait, Gibbons or Gibbons?

Speaker 6 G-I-B-B-E-N-S.

Speaker 3 E-N-S. Oh.
I see Randall Gibbons with an O.

Speaker 1 I like this move.

Speaker 6 As in Trailer Park Supervisor.

Speaker 1 Franny Laden, yeah? Anything? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, you're in for this.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I mean, that wasn't like an alter ego because I hated my name. That was just like a

Speaker 1 compter name in front of us.

Speaker 3 In the alter ego, are they using any sort of anti-Semitic rhetoric online? Is this... I'd like to know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 You can find out about that. Yeah.
But Randy's kind of a cool name.

Speaker 3 Randy's a cool name.

Speaker 1 It's a cooler name than Mike.

Speaker 1 It is. It just is.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Randy, because Mike is a great... Mike is a solid, like, foundational name, but it's also, there's a million Mics out there.
There's not a lot of Randy's.

Speaker 3 If I hear Randy, yeah, if I hear Mike, it's like, okay, Mike drives a Honda Accord.

Speaker 1 Well, you know.

Speaker 3 If I hear Randy, it's like, yeah, he does too, but he's got a kick-ass spoiler on the way. Right.

Speaker 1 And if you hear Mike, Mike, you're like, yeah, I probably would be friends with that guy. Yeah.
Because, like, it's just Mike.

Speaker 3 Mike's a stand-up dude.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Mike is a good dude.

Speaker 3 Randy's the guy you call if you need Coke.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Randy is the guy who's like, hey, let's go fuck some shit up. Yeah.
Let's do some weird shit with Randy.

Speaker 3 Randy, you've probably had to bail Randy out of jail six or seven times.

Speaker 1 Randy's a wild card.

Speaker 1 Mike is going to pay his mortgage on time. He's going to mow his lawn.
You're probably have like a couple, you know, beers with Mike in his garage every weekend, like just hanging out with Mike.

Speaker 1 Randy, randy listen randy doesn't even own property he's off the grit randy's definitely showed up at your house a couple times after 2 a.m needing a place to lay low for a while yeah randy is the is the guy who your wife or girlfriend's like can you stop bringing randy around and that you need one of those friends you need one of those friends what are you gonna say billy he could go by ike

Speaker 3 ike ike's kind of weird ike is kind of weird

Speaker 1 i don't think mike i mike should not change their name they're they're mike's like there's it's such a good like it's a total

Speaker 1 meat and potatoes name. Yeah, Ike, I think, is a...

Speaker 3 That's a name for Dwight, isn't it? Ike. I don't think Ike is short for Mike.
No, I don't think so either.

Speaker 1 I think it's Dwight.

Speaker 3 Mikey. Mikey's cool.
You could just go by Mikey. I knew a few Mikey's growing up.
They're all.

Speaker 3 No, actually, one's in jail.

Speaker 1 Ike Turner was Isaiah.

Speaker 3 Huh. Dwight Eisenhower.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was Ike.

Speaker 3 He was Ike.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, next one. Last one.
Last one. Ike Taylor is Ivan so I guess it really that's kind of cool

Speaker 3 Iron the Ike is very cool I always thought a cool like if you're gonna give yourself a nickname Randy's kind of cool

Speaker 1 Raul would be sweet

Speaker 6 yeah so the last few days I've been in Europe on a family trip and we stayed at a hotel with an outdoor patio we were all casually hanging out with a few drinks mixed in and we'll call him Rick.

Speaker 6 With someone we'll call him Rick. Rick stood up from our table to go to his room as he was calling it a night.
His pants fell down and he bent over to pull up his pants.

Speaker 6 At this point, it was a hanging sack and full moon in all our faces. This dude proceeded to fall backwards off the patio with his pants still down.
We aided his wife in putting his pants back on.

Speaker 6 She and her husband were super nice. The ambulance came to get him and sent him to a hospital towards the city center as we were in the countryside.

Speaker 6 Before the fact, as we were both families from the U.S., we had talked about

Speaker 6 meeting this family back in our home country.

Speaker 6 We still have possible intentions of meeting up with his family, but the husband has no recollection of what happened that night, and who knows what his wife is even thinking.

Speaker 6 How should we approach this situation? I appreciate any ounce of help. Thanks.

Speaker 3 I just love the idea of somebody thinking about themselves. You know, you go to a foreign country, you're representing the United States abroad, and this is just a perfect way to do that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is falling over with your pants.

Speaker 3 It couldn't be more perfect. Falling over your pants down, your butthole out, and your butts, and then having to go to the hospital because you fell down naked.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is a total, like, if he truly doesn't remember it, I think you just roll with it. I mean, that's funny.
If he's fine, that's funny.

Speaker 1 And if they respond well to it, those are lifetime friends. You know what I mean? If they're like, that was a very funny thing that happened.
Holy shit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Those are cool people that you want to hang out with more

Speaker 1 who can, you know, not take things too seriously.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I don't mind that at all. Yeah.
Sounds like a cool guy.

Speaker 1 Okay. Good show, boys.

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Speaker 6 I have not.

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Speaker 1 Numbers: 17.

Speaker 6 69.

Speaker 1 I'm 2-0 since I got the number right on Sunday.

Speaker 3 81.

Speaker 1 26.

Speaker 4 56.

Speaker 3 81. Let's go.

Speaker 1 49.

Speaker 1 What was your number, Hank?

Speaker 6 17.

Speaker 1 My lucky. That was a bad pick.

Speaker 1 17. That was a bad pick.
That was a bad pick.

Speaker 1 I'm telling you right now, it's a bad pick. It's not going to hit.

Speaker 3 You're not even going to be close. I don't think 17's ever hit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and you're not even going to be close.

Speaker 1 50.

Speaker 1 What were you, Max?

Speaker 3 56.

Speaker 1 56!

Speaker 1 Oh, Max!

Speaker 1 He's been on the show for two months, and he only has.

Speaker 1 I'm the fucking best! There we go! I'm the fucking best! There we go, Max!

Speaker 1 Suck it, Hank!

Speaker 1 Holy fuck! I'm happy for him. No, you're not! No, you're not!

Speaker 1 Yeah, no. Wow.
Philly are still memes, right?

Speaker 1 Memes? No, well, memes. He doesn't play.
Yeah, memes are memes play. No, yeah, memes fucking sucks.
No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 He plays like once every month. Yeah.
This is another example of Philly just being massively superior to Hank.

Speaker 1 I'm happy. He literally has been, he's part of the show for, what are you, like a month and a half in now? That's cool.
And you've already gotten it before Hank. That's great.
Wow. Congrats, Max.

Speaker 1 That's huge. My heart is racing.

Speaker 3 I was not expecting this.

Speaker 3 Do you have anyone you'd like to thank? Hank. He brought me onto the show.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He's been my boss for a really long time.
Love it. Appreciate everything you've ever done for me.
Thank you, Hank. Thank you, Hank.

Speaker 3 We'll count this one as a notch in your coaching tree.

Speaker 3 Good job.

Speaker 1 Quick wrap-up.

Speaker 5 Watch the Manning Cast Curse.

Speaker 5 Saquon was on this time, and it was undefeated in the regular season.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Good point.
Good point.

Speaker 5 As we mentioned before, the Queen Corgis have found a new groomer.

Speaker 3 Yes. Love you guys.
Prince Andrew. Thanks for stealing that joke, Bill.

Speaker 1 Sucks. I used my hand with that.
That was such a

Speaker 1 good job.

Speaker 3 That was such a joke, cuck.

Speaker 1 It's all right.

Speaker 3 I was just like, I wrote it.

Speaker 1 It's not an original joke, so I don't care.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Billy, who'd you steal it from?

Speaker 1 I mean, if you couldn't make that joke. yeah, no, I agree.
So it wasn't a big deal.

Speaker 1 Hank, that sucks for you, bro. No, it's great.
Also, we're going for three in a row on Thursday.

Speaker 1 That's never been done.

Speaker 4 Yeah, remember when Billy got 69, I got 18 back to back. Yeah.
He said he retired.

Speaker 3 So it's happened before.

Speaker 1 Three in a row. Yeah.
I love you guys. Who here will get it besides Hank? Because he'll never fucking get it.

Speaker 1 Today's a muffin

Speaker 1 you're shy away.

Speaker 1 I'll be coming for your love of me. Shy way.

Speaker 1 I'll be coming for your love of me.

Speaker 1 I'm watching it.

Speaker 1 But keep

Speaker 1 away.

Speaker 1 Slovenies are okay. Say on me.

Speaker 1 Listen, baby, sing something.

Speaker 1 Say unto me.

Speaker 1 Listen, thanks to the same song.

Speaker 1 Without you I'm a silhouette

Speaker 1 without you I'm a silhouette