Ryan Whitney In Studio, Hank Gets Public Support From Tom Brady & FAQ's

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On today's Pardon My Take, our good friend Ryan Whitney in studio. We also finish the show, we start the show with games from tonight, then we get into Celtics and what happened in the Warriors game, some playoff hockey, hot seat, cool thrown, and a special edition of FAQs.
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Here's a fun stat. I looked this one up because I got sick of hearing people say that 70% of the time, the team that wins game five in an NBA series wins the series.
Well, that's true. We like to get elbow deep in the numbers on part of my take.
And if you look at it, that, that is a correct stat, but the more important stat is 83% of the time that a series is tied two to two, that winner of game five goes on to win the series. And honestly, like I, I would bet that both of these teams that won tonight are probably going to win game six.
Yeah. Yeah.
It feels like I can see the Sixers maybe rallying at home, but the sons and, uh, were, I think they're down at half or maybe it was one point game at half. Then they just went nuclear on the Mavs in the third quarter, 33 to 14.
I thought we were going to get a Chris Paul narrative because he wasn't dominant Chris Paul and we're going to to be able to dunk on everyone. We're going to have to wait for that.
But yeah, I agree with you. Like, it feels like the Sixers and both the Mavs got pushed around a little bit, beaten a whomping, a mini whomping inside of a game.
And game six is going to be tough for them to rebound. Yeah, I would say that if both of these teams at once a night, if the heat and the suns win their game six convincingly i'll call that a gentleman's womp i think like the series like yes the uh the uh other teams have won a couple games but never once i feel like the sixers or the mavericks like had the ability to win the series obviously with the sixers is for different reasons mostly injury related but we we still can stick with the Chris Paul thing because if you look at the way he played tonight here's what we can do we can say that's not going to cut yeah next round yes I like that yeah because I mean we're there's six minutes left in the game he had four points nine assists which is obviously very good but that's not going to cut it not going to cut it listen not listen not gonna cut you're gonna play a big boy team in the next round okay and this performance it's not gonna cut it it wasn't the best night of nba basketball when the most exciting thing was chuck and kenny going to the video board which i don't know which team you guys are on lebron said chuck won then skip went over the top which was great skip skip bayless he was like lebron you're wrong kenny won like disagree skip is so committed to it he disagrees with lebron's take of who won wait wait a second so he he responded to lebron and lebron no he just subtweeted him yeah exactly so he so he subtweeted him now that's interesting because i think that skip bayless may have just given himself up there i i just realized this yeah skip bayless doesn't follow anyone on yeah oh no no no zero people on twitter he's got burners no no no no no this is this is proof skip bayless has burners i have bad news they showed lebron's tweet on the tnt show fuck i thought i was cracking open i know i wanted my face right like i i realized it and i was like i've got a mission now for the next like three weeks which would be to find skip bales his burners and see what the takes that he puts out on the burner the ones that like he doesn't think are ready for prime time yet the ones that he's testing out i still think he might have burners i still think he might i just didn't want i wanted you to be right but i also don't want you to get dunked on for being wrong in this respect that they did they they showed lebron's tweet on the jumbotron chuckled about it all blah blah blah which is what lebron wanted in the first place also um i listen lebron's tweets were better than the games tonight so people are like hey all you do is mention lebron sorry lebron won the mvp lebron won my baby braun of tonight he won my sixth man of the night tonight because the guys here's here's how it goes it goes the guys that on the desk at TNTnt then skip bayless then lebron six yeah yeah like what do you want us to do you want us break out break down two blowouts like we the the i think i think kenny still kind of had him actually i think it was almost oh it was actually a tie i'm gonna say that i really do think it's a tie yeah i mean that even is worse that the most exciting part of the night was a tie video board.
The only other thing I was thinking when I was watching this son's game is I think Aiton might be the one guy in the league right now where he can, when I watch him play, I'm like, why doesn't he always just play like this? Yeah. It feels like he should be able to dominate any game that he's in.
Well, he's, he's a looks incredible or looks like he's never touched a basketball type of guy like some games he'll shoot and you'd be like what was that like he'll miss the rim and the backboard I think in honor of tonight's just just awful games we should we should award uh the second weekly Billy football game ball of the night yeah somebody who probably didn't watch it watch it. Actually.
How about Billy? You and Jake award a co game ball. And if you guys both select the same person on the count of three, then that person wins it.
And if they don't, then the nobody wins the game ball. Okay.
And hockey wins. Hockey wins the game ball for the night.
I like this, by the way, just before they, you guys think about it. I've lost my voice again.
I said, I wasn't going to lose my voice for a month. It actually gets better as the show goes on because we go back in time.
This one, I can't explain. I just haven't been sleeping.
It wasn't yelling. I've literally slept like four hours every night for the last five nights, but I'm going to sleep tonight, so I apologize to everyone.
You guys ready? Is it basketball only? No. Just who on the night? I feel like Billy, that's my kind of hint.
I'm not going to spoil it, but I think we can say the same person. Oh, I know.
Can I say it? Yeah. Let's go.
Three, two, one. Aaron Judge.
He's pretty much like eight in size. Yeah.
Yeah. He wouldn't even do.
I didn't even see. He had to walk off through on homer.
I mean, it was kind of a sec. He was a fucking Liam Lex moonshots.
I obviously hate the Yankees, but. Second deck.
It was a moonshot. Did Sterling realize that it was a home run? Yeah.
So if you saw my tweet, he didn't do anything incorrect, but he was unusually not excited about it. Oh, I think I split on the break.
He's very cautious. Yeah.
But hey, he didn't mess up. That's what we're going to focus on.
Oh, the other NBA game ball of the night should go to the rat that showed up at the Nets-Mats game because it allowed everybody on Twitter to make the same joke at the same time, depending on what party you voted for in D.C. So some people were like, a rat on the field.
I didn't know that Biden was there. And then other people were like, a rat on the field.
I didn't know that McConnell was there. It was great.
It was just seeing the timeline all sync up like that to make the exact same joke just based on the preferences that's what twitter was made for that's why al gore invented the internet yeah some some good old uh political humor bringing everyone back together um i did a bad job to start uh jake do you want to talk about your heat at all except that was i think the definition of heat culture by the way seven guys seven guys double digits everyone seven guys double digits Jimmy Butler has shown up in pretty much every single

playoff game this this postseason so far like obviously the two games in Philly were not ideal

but he still played well um remember that iconic bubble photo of him just looking gas like I've

seen heat twitter people just posting that after every game because that's what he's been doing

Thank you. still played well um remember that iconic bubble photo of him just looking gassed like i've seen heat twitter people just posting that after every game because that's what he's been doing for this team and when other guys show up and like i said uh last show that weird stat about them them not hitting threes they started to fall tonight and it was what i tell you jake maker miss league ducking robinson one of three four points but hey that's one of, four points more than he's had this whole postseason.
They gave him a shot. That's a fact.
Make or miss league. So do I real ball the night? Oh, okay.
Sure. Plot twist.
Seth Jarvis had an amazing, dominating performance against the Bruins. Blew him out.
And now Carolina wins the series three to two. Oh, shit two oh shit jarvis yeah well he he's the guy who just put a couple smackeroos on those bruins what what positions he play he's a center billy texted the group and he's like i'm gonna maybe go to this chiclet stream i'm gonna try to get more into hockey like what i like that no it's like if you a girl and she, she knows that sports is a big part of your life and maybe she didn't grow up a sports fan.
She's like, let's watch sports center together. And then she's basically, Ooh, Ooh.
Yeah. It's basically a preview.
A great interview with Ryan Whitney. Billy got embarrassed at the end of the interview.
So he's like, I'm going to fix this. I'm going to start watching hockey.
So next time biz or Whitney comesney comes in i have a question for them he's taking steps to self-improvement i appreciate that oh oh the one other thing that i had from tonight's game the ref that stares into the camera on the replay reviews can we get literally any other ref on the court to be in charge of looking at the camera and announcing that he just creeps me out he creeps me the fuck out like just don't don't stare directly into the camera because i always feel like he's about to be activated by crypto like his eyes are going to turn bright red it's also going to like demon time yeah it's also the weirdest angle it's the weirdest angle like it's because it's below them and that's just a bad angle to begin with i agree it creeps me out and he like turns his body to the side but he keeps staring like it's like he's doing blue steel yeah turning away baba that should be the next demon time or one of the next demon times it should be it should be that ref as he's announcing it like a flagrant too yeah yeah like the ref um kicking someone out of the game yeah like i when they kick draymond out yeah and he announces it and the crowd goes crazy i'll put a word in all right beautiful beautiful um hank anything about your bruins uh no i watched tonight so they got smoked okay nice and then like i was i was all jazzed up like ready to go i was believing in in awesome brewing culture and there was nowhere to be found yeah and then the leafs are back which means that's where they're perfectly set up to lose. And, I mean, we might have the game of the year, the Lightning in game six.
To reverse jinx it? Well, no, if this streak continues where they haven't lost back-to-back games, like, right? Yeah, but I was thinking that you game of the century, that reverse jinxes it, and then the Leafs win. Yeah, maybe maybe we got to figure that out but I'm down anything else we have I just I just think I feel bad for Leafs fans even though they won tonight because we've gotten a taste of what it's like to root for the Maple Leafs in the last week of the playoffs and it can't be easy it's one of those things like has your family ever been like you know you're growing up oh try this you'll like it i promise and then you take it take a bite you're like you know what just not for me yeah being like a leafs fan i can tell instantly like why why does anybody in toronto do this to themselves you can just not it's even though they won again it was a electric game electric third period but this is just something like that's a hard opt out for me What I've learned about lease fans being come so far since 2018 pfp what do you mean what before the caps won that's true but but when the caps would lose they would lose like in in just dominant they would get dominated they would get shit pumped right big games after having all the expectations they wouldn't like drop a three to one series they wouldn't be in control of the series it would just be frustrating you'd hang on to the very end and then the penguins would come onto your home ice and beat you like seven nothing the leaf fans are as i count myself as one these last week this last week and a half with my futures but the least fans i've noticed it's this very it's this bipolar-esque confidence and fear of doom at all times that can't be good for your emotions like when they were down 2-0 tonight it was just like this is same old lease we suck we suck we suck then they they got the lead 3-2 and it's like we're back and then they like it's just a constant like i like i think the leaves are good but i also expect the worst to happen at all times it's very bizarre because most teams it's either you expect the worst to happen or you have that confidence not both at the exact same time so i i feel like with the leaves they don't really expect the worst to happen in the after the fact, they're like, oh, my God, I can't believe we did this again.
It's almost like if you were to ask a Leafs fan in the offseason, what's going to happen? They'll probably say that. They'll probably say, like, I think we got a great team, but you know, it's the Leafs.
But in the moment, in the middle of a playoff series, it seems to me like they're very optimistic, like in the games, like this is the team, this is the team. And then they always get surprised by it.
They always get Lucy pulling the football and Charlie Brown. Yeah, it's a wild time.
And we're going to talk more about that with Ryan Whitney. So we got coming up, we got Celtics, Bucs, we've got Warriors, we got more hockey talk, Hank getting tweeted by Tom Brady, Ryan Whitney, FAQs.
Let's kick it to ourselves back in the studio. PFT, do you have something going on tonight? Oh, yeah, Bubba, thank you.
The ghost of Manhattan is taking to the skies tonight. I'll announce it right here.
I've got a very important mission. I was doing this on Twitch the last couple weeks.
I hunted Putin last week on my flight simulator. Tonight, Wednesday night, I'm going after Kony.
I'm taking Kony out. Recru coney out recruiting trip we've got coney well he's got his child soldiers my mission is going to be to try to kill coney while killing as few of his infant soldiers as possible and then if all goes well i will then take them over like denarius targaryen and they will become my army of child soldiers well good luck we're rooting for you after the caps game yeah on twitch um okay kick it to ourselves back in the studio before we get to the rest of this show a word from our friends at Coors Light Coors Light is the greatest beer ever created work friends family and expectations uh to be on 24 7 can make you in a spot where you need to take a chill out session and there's's nothing better than a Coors Light.
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So Bucs-Celtics, game four, poked the bear. And unfortunately for the Bucs, the bear actually was Al Horford.
So everyone thought, like, don't wake up Giannis. He'll go nuclear.
Turns out that Giannis poked Al Horford. We saw the clip.
Al Horford's sister actually tweeted it being like, that's when I knew the Bucs were fucked. Al Horford just doing the head nod like, yep, yep, you'll see.
And we get Al Horford with his greatest playoff performance ever, 30 points, absolutely dominating, doing it all too. Threes, dunks.
Defense. Yeah, defense, like post moves, and now we've got a 2-2 series.
A great series, by the way. Just a great, great series.
Unbelievable game. Seemed like one that they were going to lose, one that was slipping away.
Jalen and Jason weren't playing their A game, and thank God Al was playing his A game and put the team on his back. He was taking big shots.
He was making big shots. He was the go-to guy, and he just had an unbelievable performance.
He fucking punched Giannis in the face. With his elbow, yeah.
That was incredible. Jason Tatum didn't have a great game, but he also had one of the coolest shots ever where he was maybe six six inches off the ground, completely vertical or horizontal and did like a finger roll from from seriously, like one foot off the ground.
Yeah, but that was that was a hell of an answer by the Celtics. And now we got a three game series, baby.
Home court back on. Yeah, there you go.
Jason Tatum had like he he had a very weird game. He was like really good in spurts and then really confusing in other spurts it was like all over the map passive yeah he ended up having like a statistically great game if you just look at the numbers but if you every time I looked over and watched him play I could the numbers kept going up but I was like I don't recall him ever ever dominating or ever being like a total scoring threat I think it's one of those things where he probably feels a lot of pressure to be the guy, and then when Al Horford became the guy, that helped relax Jason Tatum, and he just knew that he had to get some possessions and score a couple points, but Al Horford taking that role last night was huge, and that was the reason they won.
That was probably the quietest 30 points that I've ever seen in a playoff game. Yeah, no, you're absolutely right, PFT, because it was not – if you look at his stats, you're like, oh, he had a good game.
But if you were watching the game, there were moments in the game where you're like, why is Jason Tatum not forcing it here? Why is he not like – he's the best player the Celtics have. Why is he not taking over? And Al Horford did, and you're right.
It kind of unlocked Jason Tatum. Maybe that's – maybe Al Horford's the alpha.
Al Horford, he's Batman. Jason Tatum's Robin.
Jalen Brown, the Joker. Yeah.
I don't know. And what is it? Fast Pace P? What is his nickname? Fast P.P.
Fast P.P. is Catwoman.
Can't shoot on the road. Who's the most dominant, old-looking guy in the NBA right now? Because Al Horford, in that performance last night, he's definitely up there.
I was going to say Alex Caruso. Alex Caruso.
Yeah. Yeah, he looks kind of old.
PJ Tucker is a really old-looking guy. Every time I see PJ Tucker play, I'm like, this dude, if an old dude comes out there wearing a T-shirt underneath his jersey, you know he's just out there to foul the fuck out of you.
Yeah, yeah. I was going to say, it was crazy that Al Horford's only 35.

For some reason,

because those Florida Gator teams

were so long ago.

Joe Keem's retired.

Corey Brewer,

I don't even know when he retired.

It was a long time ago.

But Al Horford is out there dominating.

It was crazy to see.

Philly almost ruined his career.

Well, like Philly fans,

they still hate that contract because they're like, didn't they pay Al Horford Instead of Jimmy Butler Yeah It was something like that Where it was like a combination Yes Yes Yes So But they went He got benched by Oklahoma City Basically for playing too well When they were trying to rebuild And people thought that he was getting benched Because he was bad But it was more like We don't want to win games we don't want you to try hard like we're just going to put you on the bench and let the young guys play but yeah he's he's back in the best way possible yep so series on series on seven games still i got six actually no seven do you in your hot seat cools ron do you have anything that was tweeted at you last night or you want to talk about it now oh we can talk about it now because I didn't really watch the first half at all. I was in the clouds.
So take us through the mind of Hank last night. If you missed it, Edelman and Tom Brady both tweeted in support of Hank, which was...
Well, we didn't really talk about it on the show. Obviously, there's a lot of drama going on with my ex-girlfriend dating someone else in the office.
I've known about for a while. Like I'm not as upset about it as a lot of people on the Internet were and were.

It was like trending.

There was everyone tweeting about it, talking about it all day yesterday.

You guys have my back, which I appreciate.

A lot of people reached out to show their support, which I appreciate, but not in a way that's like I need, you know, I need the support. Like I'm down bad.

I was fine.

But it's cool to see how loved you are.

It is. It is like that's where it's like, you know, I don't I'm happy it happened kind of because it's like, I need, you know, I need the support.
Like I'm down bad. I was fine.
But it's cool to see how loved you are. It is.
It is like, that's where it's like, you know, I don't, I'm happy it happened kind of because it's like, yeah, you get, you know, the people that you care about showing their support for you. And then on top of it, if it was like a trade machine where it's like, you know, on one side, you have to deal with your ex-girlfriend for four years dating Marty Mush.
But on the flip side, you get Julian Edelman and your hero showing you unconditional support and love, like I'm clicking trade every time. So it was like there was a lot of people talking about it.
It was like Team Hank was the thing that was on Twitter. Julian Edelman tweeted Team Hank, and then like five minutes later, Tom Brady tweeted, co-sign hashtag defend the wall, which was a reference to getting arrested for him and yeah I was like I couldn't I was truly like floating like I my heart was beating like out of my chest I didn't I didn't even look I didn't I didn't watch a second of the Celtics first half like I was just like on a different planet just you know the emotions took over me it was it was somehow in a situation that wasn't ideal that I didn't really want to happen like it ended up being one of the greatest nights of my life I have to assume that that all is forgiven with Tom Brady now with the like four days like is he going to acknowledge Boston sports fans he's essentially your biggest fan yeah the question is like is there are you a bigger fan of Tom Brady or is Tom Brady a bigger Lockwood? I don't know.
I think the moral of this whole situation is loyalty, and we stuck by Tom when he was in a tough spot, and he's paying it back by sticking by me when I'm in a tough spot. Same with you guys and all the support you showed me.
Loyalty is an important thing, and it means the world. It is the thing.
Yeah. I just told Bubba before he came in here, I would take a bullet for you yeah i would get shot for you not in my head or my chest but like almost in the other body part no i mean either leg yeah feet not to get sappy but like loyalty to your to the people you're closest with means everything to me and so showing it and getting it shown back is it's everything i also think it was it was just so one of those things where it's like we're in a simulation this is so preposterous this is so funny where it's like that was kind of my it was just a good kind of like bow on the whole thing where it's like yeah yeah it's dramatic yeah people are interested but it's like it's not that serious like we can kind of joke about it and like just kind of move on like i think there's obviously when when things get heightened to this level like the psychos come out and like people just start you know taking it over the And it's like, from my perspective, it's like, like I said, if you could have told me this even when we were dating, that this was a possibility, I might have.
You would have dumped her. Yeah.
No, seriously. I think it would have like, four years is four years, but Tom Brady's been my hero for 20.
I have better memories, more love. It's just one of those things where it's like we're all about yeah we're all about perspective on the podcast this week yes i like that it was it was an incredible moment um yeah you are very very much loved and now tom brady kid did you hit him up for maybe some some of that sweet money he's getting because what was the final tally for 10 years 375 million dollars according to the New York Post.
He deserves it all.

He deserves the world. I mean, how much of that, like, you kind of, your brand boosted him up.

They're like, wow, Tom Brady.

Okay, we were going to give him, like, nine years and $350 million.

Let's tack that tenth on there.

He's Team Hank.

It is crazy that Fox is like, hey, whenever he's ready.

But it's the only move they had. It was that or Peyton Manning.
Fox loses Joe Buck and Trey Aikman. Tom Brady is the guy.
I think he's going to be great. How funny would it be if he sucked, though, if he went up there and he was just stumbling over his words? He's going to be great.
Oh, of course he is. I was thinking about it.
What if he was a Jason Witten, but then I remember that brady is such a competitive psycho that he will like just spend all his time studying tapes do tapes yeah no he's going to do i'm sure he'll be very very good because there's no way that tom brady wants to go in the booth and have everyone clown his ass i think that that peyton manning as an individual is going to be better than tom brady but tom brady is going to have a much staff around him. And so on a whole, his broadcast will be much, much better known as a dynasty.
Well, and Peyton's also, his broadcast is not as difficult. Yeah.
Because it's not, it's a side view that you can tune into that doesn't have to, like, you don't have to carry a blowout the same way. I hope that the Manning cast goes off ESPN and they actually go to Fox so that people can opt in, like choose.
We can get that debate going, like continue it for the next 10 years. Yes.
Peyton or Tom. Yes.
Yes. The other NBA game, we'll talk about hockey in a second.
The other NBA game, I don't know about you guys, but I watched the first half. The Warriors looked terrible.
It was very funny that Steph hit his 500th playoff three in a half where they, I think they made like two out of like 20 or something something crazy and I was like you know what I'm gonna go to sleep I'm gonna try to get some rest because I know that the Warriors like crazy run is going to happen eventually it's just I don't really want to wait up for it I waited up actually all the way through like halfway through the third quarter still hadn't come yeah went to sleep woke up looked at the score and was like yep that's exactly what i expected they won the game yep at the very very end yeah it was like the last 10 minutes of the game that's when the warriors became the warriors and scored 39 points in the fourth quarter and mike brown had to fill in for steve kerr who was out in health and safety protocols if i'm mike brown i would become like the first coach ever to hold out in training camp as a head coach next year for the Kings to ask for a raise.

You've proven you probably deserve more money

than the Kings are throwing at you right now.

He's won and own the playoffs.

He's won more playoff games than the Kings this year.

He's won more playoff games this year as a head coach

than the Kings have won in a decade.

Probably since 2008 would be my guess for that stat.

But yeah, the Warriors, I don't think that they can shoot any worse

than they did for the most part last night.

Just a minute. the kings have won in like a decade probably since like 2008 yeah would be my guess yeah for that stat but yeah um the war is just i don't think that they can shoot any worse than they did for the most part last night dude they're just well also john morant was out well yeah that's that's a big deal yeah but i so i have a i have a warrior's future i'm rooting for them i'm very nervous because clay thompson like he can have a couple games where he looks kind of like old claylay.
And then he has games where it's like, has this guy played basketball before? Both offensive and defensively. Obviously, it's injury and coming back.
But there were a couple moments where I was like, whoa. Klay just keeps missing.
And he's done it a few times in these playoffs where it's like, he just keeps missing shots that old Klay Thompson never missed. You know the stat that we were talking about a couple years ago with james harden and how he demonstrably plays worse in cities that have high strip club populations yeah i wonder if that's the same thing for clay thompson and places that have dispensaries like our states that have the whole legal marijuana yeah yes yes that's probably true i would imagine but uh that series feels like it's over especially without john moran which sucks because he was playing so well i 38 points a game.
All-time. You guys remember what? There was an all-time bad shot at the end of the game by Jaron Jackson Jr.
It was great defense. But they didn't have to shoot it.
He had three people around him, and there was like 17 seconds left. It was a clear sign of your star player that usually takes shots at the end of games is not playing.
I think it was like Jaron Jackson was so pumped up because he's like, this is the Jaron Jackson game where I get to be myself. I get to show what I can do at the end of the game.
And so he had a rush of blood to the head and he's not used to closing out games in that situation. So he's like, you know what? I've kind of been on fire in terms of, you know, like on a scale of how good Jaron Jackson can be.
I'm the most good that I've ever been in a game. So let's just go for it.
Let's just put it up because everything's going in. And more than that, he was probably just pumped to be in the game and not fouled out at that point.
Because he's been a – he actually hasn't done it in this Warriors series, but remember the Timberwolves series? Yeah. He was just fouling out in like 20 minutes every night.
Also, I love what Draymond's doing with his podcast where he goes into the locker room. He essentially records in the building.
I think he might actually be in the building before the game's over. So you get the emotional Draymond.
You get like 50% of on-the-court Draymond, whereas most players, if they do a podcast, I don't know, I haven't listened to too much of Duncan Robinson's recently, but he's probably not flipping out about people after the the game and like screaming about like what just happened in the game. Draymond still has that emotion in him when he records, which is like, that's actually like when we do a podcast right after Big Cat suffers a horrible, horrible loss.
Yeah, you can hear it. And you can hear it in the voice.
And like, I love hearing Draymond. I don't want to hear like analytical Draymond.
I want to hear Draymond, like trying to get into fights on his podcast. Yeah, it's raw.
It's real. It's like a press conference on steroids.
Correct. It's awesome.
It's a press conference where he gets to ask himself the question. Now, is it bad for journalism, though, that Draymond's saving the real stuff, keeping it from the print, and the hardworking reporters who are on deadline aren't getting the real stuff, and he's saving it for his own podcast? It's worth considering.
Maybe that's the future. It could be.
Every locker room afterwards, instead of having to meet the press, you literally just have to go live on Periscope for 10 minutes and answer questions in the chat. Yeah.
That would be funny. I like that.
Next thing you know, we've got Steph Curry answering like tits or ass or like in and out of five guys. Jake, I'm just curious from your perspective as a play-by-play guy, Tom Brady coming into the booth, is that going to be intimidating for the play-by-play guys? So it's Kevin Burkhart who's filling the shoes of Joe Buck.
Do you like him? Yeah, he's great. Oh, no way.
I walked right into that one. They'll definitely do a bunch of practice broadcasts and by the time week one of whatever, two season, three seasons, it's going to feel like they've been together forever.

Yeah.

I want to know what simulated games are going to do.

They got to pick some crazy ones.

Yeah.

Throw everything at them.

Full YouTube games is what I used to do in college.

Kevin Burkhart.

I mean, Tom Brady is such a psycho competitor.

I wouldn't be shocked if he's like, Kevin Burkhart,

you have to live in my house for a month.

Yeah.

Like you have to do everything with me.

Put you in the Antonio Browns.

Yeah. I got to get Alex Guerrero's hands on you.
That is so cool. You know what I really want to hear? Actually, here's what Fox should do if they're smart.
They should record all the simulated games that they're doing and have Tom Brady call a game where Tom Brady's playing in it. They should do the NFC.
Was it the NFC Championship game or the one against the Rams in the playoffs? The divisional. Divisional game against the Rams in the playoffs and have Tom Brady analyze Tom Brady as his plan.
Or do the Thursday Night Football against the Bears where he didn't realize it was fourth down. That would be smart.
Just seeing him explain what was happening. And then drop that as either a teaser where you could watch the week before the regular season started just to get yourself in football's back mode or just put pay-per-view.

Well, that's a good point, Big Cat,

because there's going to come a time

where he has to criticize a friend.

Yeah.

So that would be a good test.

So Tom Brady, we know you're listening.

What up, Jules?

We know you're listening too.

Dude, just do a little teaser for us on Twitter

where you're basically announcing that moment

and be like, this fucking idiot

doesn't realize it's not fourth down anymore. You got to be better than that.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay.
Yeah. I like this.
All right. Hockey.
We're going to get into a lot of hockey with Ryan Whitney, but the tit bet is officially on. Yeah.
Emotions are still raw right now. You'll hear it a little bit with me and Whit.
I told Whit we met up after we did the podcast. I was mad at him last night but that's just you know why fog of war because we talked about we talked about it you'll have to hear good tease though hank you'll have to hear it in the interview it's uh bombs will fly yeah what yeah what would the youtube uh title be uh ryan whitney and pft at each other's throats yeah ryan both your faces are super Yeah, Ryan Whitney.
Steam coming out of your ears. And PFT fireworks.
Big Cat gives Billy Football a Tesla. PFT threatens to...
Oh, you know what? I did threaten to kick him off the interview last night. You could do PFT threatens to expel Ryan Whitney from part of my take.
Nice. Ban him for life.
Yes. And do the Tesla thing, because David Dobrik always plays.
When I got into it last night, it was all just like, we were watching the stream, I'm invested when I watch Capitals games, way more so if you've ever seen me watch a Commanders game, I have a little bit of detachment from it, because I have no expectations ever, and I can laugh at it. With the Capitals, it's one team that I've always cared about, and actually felt the impact of a game as it's happening.
I get stressed out. So I got mad at Witt because Witt was betting against the Caps, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
I went to a dark place last night because we were going to win the game. We were up by one goal with two minutes left.
Goalie was pulled, and I was just – in my mind, it was 3-1 already. Yeah.
I counted it as a win. That's fair.
Yeah, but it's not because we played kind of like ass last night. I think we got like 16 shots.
It was just, it was not great. I think we had five power plays and got four shots total.
I don't think that's good. You gotta just start yelling, shoot the puck.
Shoot the puck. We need to shoot more.
That's the thing. We used to shoot all the time.
We don't shoot that much anymore. But yeah, now the tit-bet's back on, so Jake and I will be in the barn yes jake are you ready on friday that'll be fun in dc we got to get the fake we got to figure out what we're going to do with the fake tits right so it'll be the this the bet is if you miss monday's show pft and jake are going to try we're going to try to get him on the glass so behind the net behind the bench out game time, go download the game time app.

And I think you guys should, we should figure out what the tits are.

If the team that's losing, that person has to do it. Like, so if the team changes or if they tie it back up, tie means you can stop.

But if it's like the Panthers score one minute into the game, PFT puts on the tits until they until it's time scores.

Yeah. Yeah.
I'm going to be, we'll bring a bra. Actually, I think you should have to keep it on for a tie until a lead changes.
So, say the Capitals go up 1-0. If the Panthers go 1-1, you have to keep it on until the Panthers are up 2-1.
I like it. I'll take that.
That's a big change for 1-0. Well, that's because the only reason I'm saying that is I don't know how many times we'll have a shot on you guys.
So we want to maximize that. So I'm actually seeing my worst nightmare come to fruition in front of me because the way that this is all potentially going to play out is we got Game 5 down in – What's the name of the city that you play in? Sunrise.
Sunrise. Sunrise.
It's a mall. It's a strip mall a strip mall.
9-5-4. Sawgrass Mills.
You can get your nails done there. Get your nails done there.
Get a pliable. So they're going to win.
I've already convinced myself that the Panthers are going to win in game five. And it's going to be 3-2.
It's going to go back to D.C. And then Jake is going to win in my face because that's what Jake does.
And then he's going to give me the, likeest handshake ever and say, congrats on a great series. Well, we did say we have to do the handshake line after regardless.
Jake and I are at each other's throats right now. I, but I will do a handshake line with him regardless of the outcome of the series.
Yeah. It's the hockey way.
As much as anyone can be at Jake's throat. I'm at his throat, which means I'm not like holding doors for him.
The other games, Penguins just dominated the Rangers. Again, we're going to get to all of it.
I don't know what else. I mean, the Avalanche look like the best team in the world right now.
It is a stark contrast when you see every series is competitive and then they just took care of business, swept the Predators. Yeah, I'm just upset with the Rangers because I was mostly just looking forward to the narrative of like, they can win a cup now that Henry Lundquist is gone and he was holding them back.
That was going to be a fun thing that we could all talk about. Well, it's a year early.
That would really piss off Rangers fans too. But they look real, real bad.
They just like, I don't know. I don't know how to judge effort when I'm watching hockey because I've never really played hockey at any sort of level whatsoever.
And they all look like they're trying hard all the time out there. But it seemed like the Penguins had a level of effort that the Rangers weren't even approaching.
Yeah, they were trying harder. They were trying harder.
Yes. They skated harder.
Yes. Yes.
I agree with that. All right.
Should we do hot seat, cool thrown? Then we got Ryan Whitney in studio for like an hour. We're going to talk some hockey, and then we will finish up with some FAQs.
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Hot seat, cool throne.

Hank.

My hot seat, I was going to talk about Tom.

We talked about that. I will go with- Your good friend, Tom Brady.
My good friend. Yeah.
Yeah. My teammate.
Yeah. Brother.
Brother in arms. Brady four.
Defend the wall. Yeah.
Some things. He's part.
Brady would go to jail for you? Yeah. I do.
I actually think. Maybe.
Maybe. Yeah.
He co-signed me. The iPod.
Oh, yeah. I was talking shit about Apple products last week.
this is probably the greatest apple product ever invented but they announced today that they're discontinuing the ipod not sure why it's the end of an era yeah i think you know what they were great i think they were i think they they were selling like virtually no ipods these days because nobody i don't know why nobody buys an ipod but i think they i love the ipods i think they just announced that they were going to discontinue them so that people would go out and buy them, knowing like, hey, this is the last chance that you're going to have to buy an iPod. They'll be able to get some off the shelves.
I can't think of anything better than an iPod. Yeah, how are you listening to your music? All of your music on your phone.
On your phone. No, on your iPad.
Yeah. Yeah.
I once got my sister's hand-me-down pink iPod Nano, and that was fire. Yeah.
Even though it it was bright pink, I got teased for it. It was sick.
My favorite iPod thing was way back in the day. I'm talking 06, 07.
When the iPod 1 or 2 came out, it would break. It would freeze.
And the only way to unfreeze it, I'd just chuck it against the wall, and it would always work. You felt like like a tech guy because you're just like all right my ipod's broken whap my least favorite ipod memory was then when those clowns you too got got forced onto all of our itunes that was awful i had one of the ipod uh nanos that didn't have a screen and oh yeah knowing how to navigate around that and just knowing where songs were like i i'm a genius.
I'm Elon Musk for my level of knowing. I would landscape and I would know I have to click this, this, and this to get to the songs I want.
You felt like a blind person walking through hallways when you knew exactly where the doors were. And then my cool throne is Will Levis.
Oh, yeah. Kentucky.
Football guy of the week. I think we talked to him about coming on.
I don't think he actually came on, but he's a big AWL. He's one football guy of the week.
He went viral for a bunch of stuff. We talked about him last year.
CBS Sports put out their latest mock draft. He's number one.
Wow. We got to get him on.
Yeah. He's a huge, huge mayo guy.
Yeah. He's the one who ate the banana.
Wait, what did he do with the banana? He ate the banana. With the peel.
With the peel on, and then he puts mayo in his coffee. Yeah.
So all the respect in the world of this guy. Shout out to Will.
Yeah. No pressure.
You love when an athlete gets to a high level, and they're also still a troll. Yeah.
Like, that's what he is. It's great.
I love it so much. It's in his blood.
Yeah, I respect that. That's who he is as a person.
It's his championship DNA. So recurring guest Will Levis.
I think it's Levis. Is it Levis? I think it's Levis.
I think it is Levis. It is Levis? Okay, cool.
Levis. Yeah.
He's a recurring guest. He just doesn't know it yet.
Soon to be on the show. Well, I think we were going to have him on, and then I think they lost a couple games.
They threw a bunch of picks. But it doesn't matter now.
Yeah. These are really the only mock drafts that I truly trust are the ones that come out right after the actual draft, looking ahead to next year.
Yep. I think they always get that exactly correct.
Exactly correct. Especially this year.
They got it right. Yeah.
All right, PFT, your hot seat, Coulthard? My hot seat is farting.

Oh, yeah.

Farting's on the hot seat because there's a Brazilian defender.

He's a soccer player.

His name's Marcelo, and he played on Lyon.

It's a French Ligue 1 team, which is their league number one.

And he got booted from his team.

He actually got cut, and his contract terminated earlier this year.

Everyone thought it was because he was acting.

He was like laughing and stuff in the locker room

when his captain was giving a big pump-up speech

after they suffered a pretty bad loss.

Turns out what was really happening was Marcelo was just continuously farting

and laughing at his own farts in the dressing room as his coach and as his, or excuse me, manager, as his manager and as his captain was addressing the team. And apparently he was farting so loudly and laughing so loudly that they just straight up cut him from the team.
So I think, I think like context matters here because if it was, if he was farting like silent, but deadly, and then laughing at the smell, that's an asshole move. And I agree with cutting a player for that.
If he's farting loudly and it sounds funny, like funny is funny, you can't cut a player for laughing at funny-sounding farts. Yes, I agree.
Eli Manning would have been cut. Exactly.
Right. In that case, I say Jogo Bonito.
Continue to fart, continue to laugh. Sometimes, also after a bad loss, you need to break it up a little bit in the locker room afterwards.
A fart in the middle of like an impassioned speech is objectively a hilarious move. Especially after you lose and everybody's probably really down on themselves, feeling bad.
If you fart in that training room afterwards, it kind of makes the loss, it puts it into perspective is what it does. But you are right.
If it's bad smells, bad smell guys, when they're told they're a bad smell guy and they continue to be a bad smell guy, worst of the worst. Yeah.
You know what? His teammates should have joined in. That actually seems like it would be a great scene out of Ted Lasso.
After a bad loss, one of the guys farts. Everyone looks at him kind of funny, and then the next guy farts.
Pretty much before you know it, everyone on the team is farting. That's team building right there.
And someone lights a match and they all die. That's camaraderie.
Yeah. End of the season.
Yep. That's actually how they should end the entire series of Ted Lasso.
Yeah, and then there's actually, no, they fart, light a match, everyone dies. Then there's a weird provision in the whole league rules that if everyone dies at one time, you win the league.
I like that. Boom.
And a Ted Lasso. Always believe.
What is it? Believe. Believe.
Tap the believe sign. And then his wife gets back together with him.
Yeah. And then my- Fucks his dead corpse.
Yep. Things took a turn.
She farts on his corpse at his funeral at the end of her eulogy for him. It says, I have always ted yeah and then they ship they ship his body back to america but in the casket is a bunch of cocaine ozark season six that's beautiful yeah we got it that's really beautiful i can't how how's hollywood not just tired us tap into our brains we just i i still think that it would be a great idea if we just found a way to do a movie where it just meshed all the movies together.

Just a fucking mash of them all.

That's not a bad idea.

Everything is popular right now.

And this is set in South Korea.

And the last soccer player to fart gets executed by a guy in a mask.

Yes.

Yes.

This is like it would all or like even if you do actors, if you just do mashups for actors like Tom Cruise is or no, sorry.

Tom Hanks is like getting off the boat in Normandy.

he's It would all, or like even if you do actors, if you just do mashups for actors, like Tom Cruise is, or no, sorry, Tom Hanks is like getting off the boat in Normandy. He's getting bullets everywhere, people dying.
Then all of a sudden he catches a football and he starts running and that's the start of Forrest Gump. And then Tom Cruise flies over him in the F-14 and strafes all the German soldiers using modern technology.
Right. And that's now Top Gun 4.
I love it. 3, yeah.
Just mash them all. It's beautiful.
Movie mash. My cool throne is Andrew Luck.
Because I think you guys told me this, that when you went to the steakhouse, St. Elmo's Steakhouse in Indianapolis, he doesn't eat steak, he eats chicken.
Correct. And that's how you knew he was not going to be an elite quarterback.
Correct. He was a very good quarterback for a while.
Nervous bird. As we alluded to earlier, I only trust mock drafts that occur immediately after the draft.
Last year's No. 1 Sam Howell, now a current Washington commander, said that he also doesn't eat steak.
Oh. So it might feel like a red flag, and it is a red flag.
Because if you want to start a quarterback, yes, you want... He better be just chugging copious amounts of mayo if he's not eating steak, if he wants me to like him.
But I could spin zone it in a way that's like, what if he's just waited his entire life and deprived himself of steak until he wins a Super Bowl? And that's like his goal. Right.
That could be like a motivating thing.

That would be very, very motivating.

But apparently like no steak whatsoever.

That's very strange to me.

As a starting quarterback, I don't like it.

Yeah.

It also, let me just be clear, eating chicken is fine.

It was specifically going to a steakhouse and ordering chicken is a psycho move.

I have no problem with eating chicken. I think that you have to...
Man's got to have a steak every now and again. Right, right.
Exactly. Got to have a steak.
Man's got to have a steak. All right.
My hot seat is Huskier Dudes because it is officially t-shirt weather. And I tweeted something today about solidarity with all my guys who have to go...
It's one day a year where you basically switch abruptly from your sweatshirt to your T-shirt. You're not ready for it.
You got to get out that T-shirt. Black T-shirts, XXL, XXL, always size up.
But it's just a terrible feeling. So shout out everyone there.
We're going through it right now. That first few days, we're like, I haven't worn a T-shirt in six months.
I'm doing it right now. Solidarity, black T-shirt.
It sucks a lot. Maybe a good move would be just make sure you have an undershirt on underneath the T-shirt.
You've been out of the game for a while. It's a little sweaty.
Make sure you've got something to soak that up. Maybe even like tank top or a wife beater season.
Yeah, and you also just need to find that one T-shirt that's very comfortable and just run that all throughout the summer. Don't be worried about wearing the same type of T-shirt.
Like, obviously, change your T-shirt. But if it's the same, who cares? How do we feel about long-sleeve T-shirts and shorts? It's good when it's – but that's got to be like 60 degrees.
I also think that's like a 25-year-old and under move. Yeah.
But it's like 60 degrees at the beach. Bonfire.
Yeah. But, yeah yeah but yeah it's great bonfire weather yeah yeah um and then my cool throne is this podcast good our relationship with chad kelly good oh hell yeah chad kelly sent me a jersey i don't know why he sent it to me uh he wrote big cat love and respect brother swag i've i don't know why he sent it to me, but Billy, I'm going to gift it to you.
Shows how much your loyalty is gone. Didn't you get blocked by him? Yeah, but I then, well, okay, I think I know what's wrong.
Who said something's wrong? No. No, nothing's wrong.
He's back with us. Yeah.
What's wrong? You've been his biggest fan. Right.
Something must yeah i didn't i didn't he was trying to get me to help promote a a coin with him okay oh crypto yeah and you wouldn't do it boon coin okay so i shout out boon coin i think we're now good i can accept the jersey i think he actually has a new business because it came with a bunch of stuff called Blazy Susan. I think it's a weed dispensary in Colorado.
I think those are separate packages. No, it was all together.
Really? Yeah. Maybe they've sent us shit before.
Okay. So maybe it was not Chad Kelly specifically, but then that makes no sense.
Does he part of Blazy Susan? I into his business endeavors. They've been sending us shit for a while.
Really?

If I had to bet, I would say that Chad Kelly is more than likely involved in some sort of legal marijuana enterprise. I'm going to find out Blazy Susan.

But either way, we're back.

We're back with Swag Kelly.

Feels good.

Boone coin.

Yeah.

I will give you this.

Billy is so triggered right now.

Yeah, no.

Billy wants...

You know what?

Like, a jersey from Swag Kelly to Billy would mean way more than a tweet from Tom Brady to Hank. I mean, I literally wore a Swag Kelly jersey last weekend.
Not this weekend, but last weekend. Damn.
Dardy season? Yes. Now you can wear this one.
Yeah. Awesome.
Toronto. Argonauts.
Hell yeah. What's your hot seat? Cool throw, Billy.
My hot seat is the mob. Now, I originally heard this from a dealer in Vegas, but apparently a bunch of mob bodies have because of the lowering levels of water in Lake Mead, a bunch of mob bodies have been washing up because the water levels are lower.
Jimmy Hoffa. Yeah, they didn't find Jimmy Hoffa but just hot seat the mob they should have been working on water conservation efforts in the city.
That would be a great episode of the sopranos the mob goes green that would that would be excellent so um going to almond farmers yeah i thought you were about to say that uh the mob is on the hot almond he said almond i just when billy mispronounces things sometimes i just i let it fly it's an a say it again almonds Okay. How do you say the Almond Brothers? The Almond Brothers.
Wait, you just said Almond. So just put a D.
Dude, I'm so confused. Put that D on Almond.
Almond. Yeah, there you go.
That's how you say the nut. What did I say before? Almond.
Okay, well, I see the AL in my head, and then I say AL. It's just hell.
I could not agree more. Yeah.
You just get stopped at the A-L.

Yeah, I'm like almond.

I thought you were going to say the mob's on the hot seat because Gunna is getting arrested

under Rico.

Yeah.

And Young Thug.

And Young Thug.

Bubba, I think we need to fill in if you really want to dive into that.

That's not very P of the FBI.

And James Harden somehow?

They're all in a record label, which is now being considered a gang, being investigated for a murder in 2015. Young Thug apparently rented the car that the killers used, and they basically used the RICO case to tie the entire organization together.
We should get busted on our Rico. But James Harden's always...

We get Rico'd every day.

James Harden is always with them.

So that's where it's like,

when he's like,

I'm at the recording studio

until 5 a.m. before practice,

he's with YSO.

Could you imagine if we get Jake

to commit a felony

and then we all get Rico'd?

This is a part of my team crew.

We've definitely committed felonies

on this podcast before.

I actually transported a gun

across state lines

for that skit that we shot down in Houston. Yes a canada boys we bought a handgun you bought a handgun billy frogged down content oh yeah yeah i don't have the gun anymore i turned it in legally wait jake did too much dip inside of a stadium yeah that'd be funny if we all got recoded for jake yeah but, if I did something in an Uber that Big Cat paid for, is that Ash? Yeah.
Yeah, that's Rico. That's Rico, bro.
We're getting Rico'd. Was it High Noon involved? No.
Okay. What did you do in an Uber? A little Jameis? It was...
No, it wasn't Jameis. No, that was a joke.
Yeah, totally. That was a funny Classic joke.
It's a funny joke that won't totally get you freaked out tomorrow when people are like, I know what you did in the Uber. And you're like, what? What did I do? Two other hot seats.
Brett Favre is part of a $24 million lawsuit by the state of Mississippi for him misallocating welfare funds. And my last hot seat...
Are you a cop? ...is the Queen. Because Prince Charles, for the first time ever, delivered the queen's speech for British Congress ever.
Ooh, is she dead? Is the queen on the hot seat? Yeah, I'd say so. Yeah.
Where is she? I'm on queen watch officially now. I'm tracking two things currently.
Help me out out there. One, the queen's presence and her whereabouts.
And two, when LeBron James is going to have that fucking Q&A.

And my cool throne is Mike Tyson.

All his charges from beating up that guy on the plane were dropped.

And UFOs because there was recently a really good UFO picture.

Also, I think Congress is having open testimony from intelligence officials.

And yeah, people from the Department of Defense about UFOs. Jake.
My hot seat is FIFA. The game is no more.
EA Sports and FIFA are dead until 2023. It's being rebranded as EA Sports FC.
It doesn't have the same. It's still FIFA.
It's still FIFA. It's always going to be FIFA.
Fair. FIFA is the game now.
Cool thrown is Nickelodeon. We are now getting Nick games in the regular season for the Christmas Day game between the Broncos and the Rams.
It's going to be on Nick. This scheduling thing, they just are just doing like a game a day now.
I love it. Well, yeah, Christmas.
They're taking over Christmas from the NBA. Yeah, but I'm saying the schedule release on Thursday doesn't mean as much anymore.
I mean, it still means a lot. I unironically love the Nick broadcast of football games.
Same. I think there should be a Nick broadcast every single weekend.
One game should be on there. You like Noah Eagle? Yes, broadcaster approval.
But yeah, it's nice. You can opt into it.
You don't have to watch the game with the slime.

But if I have an option of watching a game with slime and watching a game without slime, I'm going slime.

Dude, I was actually bummed when they had the Nick broadcast

in the playoffs this year because my son is starting to get to the age

where he'll literally look and be like, where's the football?

And absolutely would keep his attention longer if they had slime.

So I'm looking forward to it. And then he's going to just think about the generation of football fans that grow up on slime.
Yeah, they're going to be so confused. Yeah, we're a young slime life.
Slime every touchdown. Yeah.
YSL. It's us.
I get that reference. I saw some of those tweets last night.
I did a cursory, like, what's going on. So are we – I want to know where we stand as a podcast.
Are we free gunna? Yeah, free gunna. Free thug.
But James Harden for jail? That would be hilarious if you got caught up in a recap. Right before, like, a game seven.
Yeah, it would be so fucking funny. Okay, let's get to it.
Let's get Ryan Whitney in studio. Great time with Witt Before we do that, PFT, you got a quick word? Yes.
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Now here is Ryan Whitney. Okay, we now welcome on our good friend, Ryan Whitney, in studio, hockey talk.
Hockey talk. We were just talking about getting paled, memes paled me.
It is the most disrespectful thing to have someone give you, like, just be like, okay, pal. That's fighting words.
Yeah, I said I'd rather get slapped in the face. I'd rather get somebody spit in my face, too, than pal me.
Yeah. It's like Billy Football Bro and Buddied me in the span of 10 seconds, and I feel like that's basically giving me a hug, opposed to, what's up, pal? Pal is, yeah, you're basically saying, like, I don't like you.
I want to fight you. Well, can you pass assault? Okay, pal.
You're just like, what the fuck? No problem, pal. It ruins dinner.
You ever been sluggered? No, sluggered. Sluggered, we're talking.
That's like, we can't even talk about sluggered. I think it's a knife fight at that point.
Unless you're talking about a 12-year-old in his baseball uniform. Well, that's what I'm saying.
Then that's a real sluggered. As a man, as an adult male, if you get sluggered, you can stab.
Yeah, but what if it's a 12-year-old who just went 0 for 4 with 4 Ks? Then that's funny. Oh shit.
That's teaching him a lesson. He sluggered the scrub.
Yeah. Slugger.
All right, so you guys, speaking of beef, PFT and Witt have beef. Yeah, we're not talking right now.
Oh yeah, let's get an opinion. By the way, Billy Football has a fucking hole in his pants with his horn staring right at me.
Are you kidding me, Billy? Let me see, Billy. What the hell? Billy, you might as well pal me for the rest of eternity.
You're a hole. Talking to Mike, Billy.
Jesus Christ. It's a rip.
There's two levels of cloth. These are pardon my take.
Great. Just buy some pants without a hole in them, Billy.
I didn't realize there was a hole until you just said. Okay, well, I'm telling you to get some new pants.
He's lying. I told him five minutes before this interview there's a hole i looked out for him well i meant like i didn't realize until he sat down here wow so he just made that start um back to pft and i so jake maybe hasn't heard this but i'd like their opinion pft i want to hear the whole thing i didn't watch pft enormous caps fan we were having a great discussion watching the game we had the volume on penguins rangers but my pens were smashing the Rangers.
So we said, alright, let's go third period. That game's over.
We'll go volume for Caps. Now, I'm rooting for the Capitals actually.
I want them to win. We were talking beforehand about another...
That is bullshit. You said before the game even started that you were rooting for the Caps.
No, no, no. Yes, I went out...
Can I speak? Well, you're telling a lie. No, I'm not.
I said, I think the Cats are going to win. Then we both agreed we'd love one more Crosby-Ovechkin matchup.
Correct. Unfortunately, it can't happen until the conference finals.
We thought it was second round, but the way they... Oh, it can? Yeah, they're seeded in a different way.
We're still unclear about that. Yeah, we don't know.
I don't host a hockey podcast. There were nine different opinions in the room at one time being like what the next matchup's going to be in the next round.
So either way, we're watching the game, and the Caps are kind of playing horrific, but they're up 2-1. They had about 12 shots on net.
They're winning. They've got to hold down the fort.
Now, I picked a Penguins win. Then I had Zibanejad's shot bet, so I'm feeling it.
I'm 2-0 on the night. I'm feeling it.
And Big Cat, you'll say, when you're hot, you're getting things coming to your brain. You're feeling it, and your bets are firing.
Seeing everything. So I said, guys, the Panthers are going to tie this game up.
Everyone here, bet next goal, Panthers. I go, I want the Capitals to win.
When the Panthers score, I'm all in on the Caps. PFT lost his mind.
You're doing this to fuck with me and my life and my livelihood. You were legitimate.
He thought I did it on purpose. I often am saying uh talking about my livelihood disgusting that's a word i use a lot you're a livelihood guy you have a great vocab and you actually took it personal whereas i was just feeling a bet no here's what happened if you had bet if you had bet on the uh cats before the game and you're rooting for that game in my face i understand that i get that that's part of the game right that's what you do on streams you have two people going at each other this to me felt like livelihood when the caps were up two to one in the third period and you were like you know what we're gonna get that's right i'm gonna go live bet it's gonna be it's gonna be the panthers score the next game and you pointed it my face and you then you're right what you didn't point in your face.
No, no, no.

The biggest part about this was you rounded up the troops.

No, I took it.

You're like, hey, everybody else, let's all bet on PFT to lose.

And then after I was like, wait, this is fucked up, then you're like, okay, you know what I'll do just for you?

After they score that goal, then I'll bet.

I think this is all on camera.

So revisionist history for PFT is basically bizarre

because I might as well pal you right now.

Okay, pal, your story's wrong.

I'll see you right now. Okay, pal, your story's wrong.
I'll say this. Billy, don't you laugh at me.
You're basically basic instinct Billy over there flashing Whitney. Billy's legit tugging himself off through the hole in his pants.
Let's leave him in the corner. It's not a real hole.
Let's leave him in the corner. It's his clock.
It's a real hole. To finish off the story, the Panthers, I'm feeling it.
I'm making winning bets, and then the Panthers are out shooting them 28-12. I'm like, they're going to tie it up.
It was nothing personal towards my buddy and my pal, PFT. And then I did say I want the Capitals to win, and they didn't.
So I'm not getting blamed for a game that the Caps played like shit at home and really didn't deserve to win. I'm simply only blaming you for vibes.
That's it And I admit 100% like I'm very salty this morning. I woke up this morning with a hockey hangover where I didn't even drink less.
I had a beer in overtime. I'm waking up this morning feeling like absolute dog shit because my team lost an overtime game.
And emotions are running wild right now. But this is why we watch, right? Well, so I think you were kind of fucked up in the moment if you were using your good juju to to beat pft but i also think pft like when i get mad about a bet i can move on about 10 minutes after i get very very mad for 10 minutes so i don't think pft should carry it to today is that fair like you kind of that's fair but it wasn't even you kind of fucked him but him being mad today the gambling the gambling game is just like every man is just like every man for himself.
No, I know. And I'm like, I'm winning tonight.
I'm thinking about during March Madness when Rico tried to shake my hand after I had a terrible loss. I was like, I'm not fucking shaking your hand.
That was a scumbag move, and I'm a Rico rider. You can't shake his hand.
And then 10 minutes later, I was like, all right, I've settled down. I'm good.
We've moved on. I shouldn't have played with your hair after they tied it up.
I'm sorry for that. Small difference.
This wasn't a bet that I lost. It's the team that I care about.
Right, but you can't carry it. I know.
That's true. I'm fully admitting that I'm carrying it right now.
I'm wearing it for too long, but that's what I'm feeling. Well, let's talk about the fact that after the game ended, he just sat there in silence for an hour.
I'm like, is this guy going home? And finally he's like, see ya. I was like, oh, shit.
He is rattled. He is rattled, so let's start with this.
That's what you got to do after a loss. You just got to collect your thoughts for a good long while.
Let's start with this series. Is it, is that like that? Because the way the Capitals lost was horrific.
Losing, you know, giving up a goal with two minutes left, then losing in overtime at home to basically put like a stranglehold on the series. Do you think that that's curtains for them? I actually don't because as PFT and myself said last night, they have a goalie.
They found a goalie. You know, it was going into the series.
It's like, who are they going to play? They got two different tenders. Well, this Samsonov last night and every game pretty much has been really solid since he came in.
So I think that for them to be able to like know they can hold the Panthers to whatever, two, three goals, they scored like four and a half goals a year all season. And that's why going into the playoffs, I was like, I picked them to win this series, but I said, I don't know if they could continue to just score at will in the playoffs.
Everything changes. So I think the Capitals can at least force game seven.
They they gotta at least show up to play and get more than 15 shots next game so when you say everything changes I agree playoff hockey always I know until this year right it used to always be just take the under like teams play defense guys block shots guys play more like the teams play more conservatively they try not to make as many mistakes what's going on this year because it's basically the opposite it used to be every time we get to the playoffs you can just basically bank on like two one three two games yep and now it's just every night everyone's scoring so the league changed um this year maybe a little bit last year we're scoring exploded and like watching as many games and reading articles it's like no one really has that much of an explanation as to why. I mean, the talent's unreal.
The game's faster, quicker. The playoffs is staying the same, I think, because of all the penalties called.
So people's complaint right now is that it doesn't even feel like hockey some games where most of the time in the playoffs, you're hoping for 46 to 50 minutes of five-on-five hockey, maybe two or three power plays for each team, and then you're going to see a real winner based on five-on-five. It's turned into just survive five-on-five, wait until you get a power play.
And now teams' power plays are so good. You see the Panthers, they have five forwards on their power play.
Most teams are at least just one defenseman. So I think that the scoring staying up has a lot to do with the power plays and also the game's good right now.
I think hockey's, I think the ratings are up. Shout out to our boy Biz Nasty talking about them big old titties in Dallas on TNT.
So they're getting took over, beat NBA on that Thursday night. No, well the NBA didn't have any games last Thursday because NHL was on TNT.
Just kicked them off the fucking TV. Exactly, there we go.
And they had Barkley on the other night, and he's talking about series. He's talking about Crosby, Ovi, and the Maple Leafs.
So hockey's in a good place. And the scoring being up, it is odd during the playoffs.
You're used to these defensive battles, but I think it's good. I think it's solid.
I'm into it. So at the end of that Caps game, there was one moment where we almost put it away, where we almost made it a 3-1 game, and it was an empty netter.
I think it was Hathaway that shot it. I forget who shot the puck.
But it essentially bounced off the post, outside the post, didn't go in. That translates to an icing, comes back to the other end of the ice.
Is that something that coaches tell you in the playoffs, like don't take empty net shots because the risk-re is not that great no so funny enough back in the day when i was growing up when i was playing pro if you were up a goal you played pro uh yeah nine and a half nine and a half years over here and then a year in russia so yeah thanks for remembering when i was playing pro billy pal no you are no you are you box the guy who took a dive he was a pro boxer you, pal. I was technically a pro boxer.
No, you weren't. No, you weren't.

You boxed the guy who took a dive.

I just said he technically was a pro boxer.

You know, you were a pro trainer for the guy the other night that beat Canelo.

So back then when there was a one goal lead and you had the puck,

if you went for the goal and iced it, your entire team would shame you.

It was like Game of Thrones.

Shame.

Yeah.

Shame.

You're a scumbag if you did that. You're like, you're selfish.
You're trying to get a goal. We got to make sure we're not giving up face-offs down the other end.
Don't ice the puck. Don't ice the puck.
Then I'm going to say it was two, three years ago. Obviously, analytics becomes a thing and people start doing the research and figuring out the math.
I'm a math guy, but not that big of a math guy. I have no idea how it works, but now they know.
You know the metric system. Now they know.
This is an ounce. This is an eighth.
This is a gram. Now they know that you're supposed to literally go for it.
So it doesn't matter how many times you ice it, because the times that you can actually hit the net and put the game away outweigh the ability for that team to win a face-off, go D-to-D, or actually score. So now any time you're up a goal, you're going for it.
So the other part that's interesting, I feel like this has been a change. Teams now pull the goalie with like four minutes left.
Yeah. That's crazy to me.
Crazy. And I, when you're down two goals, I could see three and a half, maybe four minutes, but was it last night? I think they pulled it over three 30 and they just need one goal.
Yeah. But PFT said once they, once they got, uh, what, what, what control in the offensive zone and they're snapping around, that's when PFT's like,

oh, shit, this is too much time.

So, yeah, if you pull them early and all of a sudden in the neutral zone

they're snapping around and you're fumble-fucking the puck

and all of a sudden the other team puts it away

and there was so much time it looks bad.

But if you can get in the zone, tire the five guys out there,

tire them out and you got six,

over time you're going to get at least a couple great A chances.

Yeah, it was a matter of an inch.

The puck missed by an inch.

Less than an inch.

Thank you.

We're having a different conversation, and we're talking about a 3-1 series. And we're probably actually – so Biz actually went at it online with your guy, Keith Olbermann.
I know you're a big fan of his. Huge.
Yeah, yeah. Me and Keith, we vacation together in the summer.
It's awesome. You guys ran a couple of times.
We walk our dogs together. Baseball.
He's got those dead dogs he's doing advertising for. Fuck that.
That guy's a legit piece of shit, but I still love him. That's why we go on this cute little vacation.
We rent a house in Nantucket. It's beautiful.
I had to mute him just because every day it was like, this dog's about to die in 45 seconds unless you pick it up. And I was like, God damn it.
Yeah. I actually felt guilty.
I was helping him make those tweets. But Biz was- He's got a gun to a dog's head.
I will personally kill a dog. He's smoking crack out of a pipe.
Third and 65th Street. Get here right now.
I'm actually meeting him for lunch after this. I'll tell him he said hi.
So he was going at it with Biz Nasty, and he was, I guess, Biz was saying that TJ Oshieshi no sussy for him where are we at on that i'm pretty sure rarely does the entire hockey twitter community agree on something so you're never going to get 100 but basically everyone sees that as a clean hit unfortunately bennett had his stick in his glove kind of up near his chest so the point of contact kind of hit hit his hit his hand which is against his check then the guy hit his stick like hit himself in the face with his own stick and the guy got crushed i mean sometimes you gotta have your head up cutting through the neutral zone get off the train tracks right yeah you don't want to get run over and oh she runs people over it was a great hit yeah it was a great hit and i unless you're keith oldman big big hits in hockey are the best um we were talking before you don't think canada is going to win the Stanley Cup. You're a Maple Leafs hater.
You're an Edmonton Oilers alum. Once an Oiler, always an Oiler.
But that wasn't the best time of your career. No, but still, still, big cat.
I'm going to choose to remember the good things about Edmonton, not getting screamed at and called a piece of shit scumbag fuckhead as I'm walking to the ice. Actually, so I don't know if they still have it, but at the old arena, Rexall Arena, we'd come out of the locker room.
And I don't know how you got the tickets, but there was a big, long bar that you walked by. So all the fans are drinking.
Now, granted, every year we're last place. I'm like, oh, my God.
So I got traded there. And Dustin Penner at the time was the whipping boy.
And I knew for a fact. I'm like, this is going to be me at some point.
I'm a tall, not physical defense. It's going to get ugly.
So Penner, as we're sitting there waiting to go out before the big Oilers emblem door opens and you walk out for the ice, he's like, you want to see me get completely crushed when these doors open? I'm like, what do you mean the doors open? They're like, Penner, you fat fuck. Fuck you.
I was like, holy shit shit it was before his nose even got out of the doorway so i was like oh boy so then as time went along it turned into me i'm walking on the ice like whitney you suck your big ear prick i was like jesus christ but credit to you because you are still an oiler alum so i explain it like this edmonton now granted cfl's there but that doesn't count it's a fake league league. They have one team.
One pro team. There's over a million people there.
And they've had so much success. Gretzky, Messi, all the glory days.
So being there and being as bad as we were, I witnessed the most loyal, passionate fan base. Now every team's fan base can say that, but Canada, there's nothing else going on.
The Flames and the Oilers in Alberta, I just want them to have have success because since, I mean, they went to the finals in 05 or whatever it was. Since 06, they've been horrific.
Right. They made the playoffs maybe once, I think, maybe twice.
First round pick after first pick. I think four first overall picks they have.
Then they got Dreitz-Eidel and, it's just they, if they can't figure it out,

it's kind of crushing to the fan base that I know cares so much.

So I decided to hop on board.

Tonight I'm sending them a video.

It'll be on the big screen.

I'm going to get them all fired up. Love it.

I'm going to say, you guys better scream for this team as loud as you used to scream and

call me a cunt as I was walking on the ice.

Maybe we can drop the cunt ball.

I'm sorry for that.

But they hated me.

But I've just, I've risen above that to really kind of be an oiler for life. I love it because I just bet all the Canada teams, I told you before, after retiring Coach K, I was like, what's my next challenge? Oh, it's the impossible, bringing a Stanley Cup to Canada because it hasn't happened since 1993.
So I'm in on the Oilers. I'm in on the Flames.
You hate the Leafs. I don't, yeah, I hate Leafs fans, which is actually funny because it's like I'm just

talking about how passionate the Oilers fans are.

Right.

Oilers fans have more, they're more down to earth.

They're like Western Canadian people.

I say people from Saskatchewan are the greatest people in the world.

Ontario people can be pricks.

And I love Ontario.

Check out the score bet.

But they're just very cocky about the Leafs for no reason.

Oilers fans are like, we suck. We haven't done anything in so long.
Leafs fans are acting like they got four cups in the last 10 years. They haven't won the cups in 67.
They haven't got out of the first round in 20 years. Right.
We should be lovable losers by now though, right? But that's what I'm saying. They're not like Cubs fans before the World Series.
They're cocky. You're like, dude, why are you cocky? You have nothing to be cocky about.
I said— Like Yankees fans right now. Yankees fans are a joke.
Is that you, Jake? Yeah, and Billy. He's got a hole in his pants.
So I think if you actually look at Maple Leafs fans, if they could show a little humility and kind of admit that they're the joke, I wouldn't hate them as much. And they are a joke.
They're a joke. They lose every year.
I also think that's on a sliding scale for Canada. It's like the biggest pricks in Canada, they're basically like Seattle Seahawks fans.
They're a little bit arrogant. Yeah, they're the biggest pricks, but they still won't pal you.
Right. They'd never do that.
They would never, ever do that. They'd rather kill one of Oldman's dogs.
I also think they're kind of overcompensating sometimes for how miserable it's been. Because it's a difference.
Like, the Oilers have not been in the playoffs. The Leafs have been in the playoffs and just lost every time.
That's a different— Leading 3-1. Right.
Like, with leads. So, I'm very excited now.
By the time you guys are listening to this tomorrow— Is this coming out tomorrow? Yeah. So, we'll know what happened.
tonight's Game 5 in Toronto is must-watch TV. So I can't wait to check that out in Tampa.
I think they're going to get it done. I just think the Leafs have this vibe about them.
So this stat's unbelievable. This stat kind of explains a lot.
I think it's the Austin Matthews era. If not, it's a little before that.
The Maple Leafs recently, while leading, while down in the series, they're like 7 or 8 and 3. While tied in the series, they're about 500, say 8 and 8.
And when leading these series, they're 1 and 9. So it's more of like it might be a legit mental thing.
It's like having a three-leg parlay and you just can't close it. Right.
And they're up against the opposite where the Lightning, I don't know what the exact stat is, but I think Biz said it,

like the last three years they've never lost back-to-back playoff.

15 or 16 at all.

It's crazy.

It's nuts.

And so it's at the point now if you're not betting them after a loss,

it's like you're giving away free money.

Yes.

What about our good friends, the New York Rangers?

I just kind of wanted to give you the floor.

The biggest Fugazi scumbag.

Another fan base that drives me fucking crazy. It's because you talk to Avery in the office, and you talk to Glenny Balls and his fucking stupid 50 jerseys he wears.
They had nothing to say last night when I said, guys, you have one cup in 82 fucking years. And they act like they're God's gift to green earth.
I actually used to hate the Islanders fans for the bullshit they gave to the virus when he signed in Toronto. I liked them more than Rangers fans out.
Jake, are you a Rangers fan too? No, he's a Panthers fan. He has a real piece of shit.
Oh, geez. From Miami.
He's the Yankees, Panthers, like dolphins, 49ers fans. Dolphins.
Yeah. You're from Florida.
Mike Tricone. Sorry to hear that.
So I, I, I, Rangers, Rangers, I'll say this. They have a pretty bright future, whereas I think every one of their fans kind of thought maybe next year or two years from now, it's like we're competing for the cup.
Well, everything kind of got pushed up a little because of the success they had, whereas now it's like we're going to beat the Penguins easily. It's like you're going against Sidney Crosby.
They're acting like Crosby is this no-name scrub scrub he's one of the best players of all time and they really treated him with zero respect and what has he done this year he's been the best player on the ice right right and he's yeah and shesirk and done nothing right i kind of i understand what happened to the rangers fans because they were so bad last year tom wilson ended their entire franchise basically at the end of the season they fired everybody yep they kind of had to rebuild a lot of pieces. They came into this year, and then they so massively outperformed expectations earlier that they're like, fuck it.
They rushed everything. This feels good.
This feels good. So they rushed, and you can be like, oh, the fans rushed having expectations, but they actually rushed things in terms of how they built their team.
They kind of got some short-term loans, right? Well, they trade a lot for Andrew Kopp, who's a UFA, so they're probably going to lose him, and he's really good. He came from Winnipeg.
I mean, once they signed Panarin, it was kind of everything was going to be a little rushed up to begin with. They also probably had no idea this Adam Fox was going to be one of the best defensemen in the league.
He wins the Norris, so things did go a little quickly. It was more about Rangers fans to me not being like, oh,, it's happened a little early, so I don't expect much this year, but I know we're on the right path and let's try to give it a run.
It was like, no, we're going to win the cup. It's like, what are you talking about? Yeah, there was a lot of that.
Eight months ago, you guys were, you said you weren't even going to make the playoffs. Right.
So it's just, it's cocky fan bases. And now fans make the game so special.
You guys know that. But some of them drive me crazy.
So the one fan base that deserves to be cocky, well, maybe not because they don't have prolonged success, but they look like the best team, the southern franchise of Colorado. Yeah, business favorite southern state.
I mean, it's crazy to look at the landscape. I know the Penguins went up 3-1 last night, but almost every other series is very competitive.
2-2. And then you have the Avalanche that just took care of business and absolutely fucking trucked the Predators.
Are they, like, how are they getting stopped? I don't know. I don't know if they can be stopped.
The one thing that would worry me is their goaltending maybe staying staying healthy we saw Kemper get the stick in the eye in game three in Nashville and he had to leave I think it's Francois or France who I can't say his name he's a silly sider he's a lefty goalie he came in I like that because you come down you're used to shooting high glove and then all of a sudden that's his blocker it's a silly side thing they're wackos to begin with begin with. Billy should be a goalie.
Goalies are crazy.

Fucking lunatics. They're out of their mind.

Crazy people. So they went and made a big deal

this summer for Darcy Kemper, who's a great goalie.

He's now

going to be okay. They said his eye's just swollen.

Thank God. It looked like he might have got legit

the stick in his eye, which was scary, but apparently

it's swollen. He'll be ready to go game one of the

second round. Oh, Joel Embiid's playing with the

orbital bone fracture. Oh, I saw game four of the second round.
Oh, Joe Embiid's playing with the orbital bone fracture.

Oh, I saw the other game.

Game four of the Bruins.

Wow.

So hockey tough?

No, listen.

Listen.

Game four of the Bruins, Bergeron got a cut on his eye.

He was bleeding everywhere, and he tried to stay out for the five on three.

And I was with a friend.

He's like, there'd be an MRI machine on the fucking court if this was the NBA right now.

What would happen if somebody in the stands tried to hug a player's mom?

What would happen then? What if a fan in the stands tried to hug a hockey player's mom? Is that okay? She'd probably fucking boot him right in the nuts. Unless it was a fan of her son's team.
Ryan O'Reilly's mom was in the stands. If a Blues fan came over and tried to hug her, if a Wilds fan came over and tried to hug her, she'd probably just straight up ball tap and take a hike.
Take care of herself. She's like, my son's a blue.
So, but the Avs are the best team in the league. The Panthers went on this crazy run to actually take the president's trophy from them, which is a good thing.
Very rarely does the president's trophy, the regular season champ, win the cup. The Avs have every single making, every making of just a complete a complete wagon right they have superstar talent at the top end even last night nathan mckinnon one of the best players in the game said in the interview he said right now kale mccarr is the best player in the league yeah he is a fucking treat to watch every single game he's doing things that i've never seen before really done like he's the mcdavid of defensemen yeah and i think biz might have mentioned that originally but it's like he's walking guys at the blue line his shots amazing he also has the ability to light guys up so you've seen offensive defensemen like when i had one good year offensively i didn't touch a soul this kid every year produces a point per game and then is running people over i just think it's gonna be hard to beat them because of how like well how much depth they have even at the top, that's what I'm talking about, the bottom, their bottom players are good.
They play hard. They play fast.
And you've got to do that to win a cup. You have to have at least a couple games where your fourth line gets one of those dirty-ass goals and when shit's not working for the top line.
And there's going to be nights when McCarr and McKinnon get shut out, and then that's when that third and fourth line shows up. Another big storyline for the Avs is Nazem Qadri.
Three playoffs in a row he's been suspended. He plays on the edge.
He's one of those guys that makes teams good because he's a dirty rat player that's also really skilled, but he can't control his temper. This year he's also UFA, so he probably knows if I get suspended again it might cost me some money this summer he has to just keep his cool right he's what he's actually one of those guys that they need to win the cup right because he's that second level behind mckinnon and mccarr and and rontan but they're they are the favorites no doubt if you're going up against them you i mean you have to try to get him well no but if you if you're prime ryan whitney playing in in the games to try to get under his skin, right? Have to.
Try to get him to do anything to get suspended. Have to try to piss him off to at least have him throw an elbow.
I think the suspensions have basically all been hits to the head and just try to get him to do – if you could piss him off enough, maybe he's going to go after you and throw a dirty hit. Right, yeah.
What about the altitude in Denver? We always talk about the altitude when it comes to football. It's actually true.
We never do it. We never do in hockey.
I think it's because it's indoors and people are like, oh, air doesn't exist. Yeah, the air doesn't travel indoors.
You have masks the entire time. Is that a thing? It's a COVID thing.
It actually is. Although, funny story, I remember my first game there, we were skating in the morning.
My buddy's like, dude, the altitude fucks you up. The altitude messes you up.
And I was like, Jesus Christ. I'm like, this is kind of bad because you're skating around.
In the first period, usually you're like, they came out hard. They always had good teams.
And you'd be huffing wind. And then one guy's like, you don't think it was the 15 beers that you guys had last night that has anything to do with you guys huffing wind right now? I'm like, I guess that is a good point.
But the entire air part of it is true. At the beginning, at least, once you get used to it, it's okay.
Yeah. But if you're there for the series, I think you're fine.
Yeah, you get used to it. You're there for a couple days.
But if you fly in and play, it's going to hit you. Have you ever thought about, like, does this ever happen in the NHL? Like somebody takes a razor in their hand, like they're in WWE, and they, like, cut themselves real quick to make it look like they got a shot to the head? No, but I wouldn't put it past a player in the playoffs who takes a puck or a stick to the face.
Or it couldn't be a puck. A stick to the face goes down and then just tries to scratch away and get blood.
Oh, that's flopping. No, it's not.
It's game and chip to get another two minutes. Oh, okay.
Flopping would be when that guy fucking said that his knee... Who was that? Pool? Broke the code.
Yeah, he broke the code, bro. That's a flop.
When you tweet out the guy broke the code and then delete the tweet when they realize you actually hurt yourself. Whoa, dude, you know.
You never touch the inside of another man's knee. Unless they have a hole in their pants like Billy Football.
You keep looking at it. Well, it's staring right in the face.
It's in my eyeball. It's literally in his face.
It's literally's literally in the same level too What would happen in an NHL game if somebody lightly touched the inside of your knee? Is it on sight? On sight Drop the gloves Want to go buddy? I'd still rather that than somebody pal me Yeah What's the worst place to get hit by a shot? I think I asked you this last night on the stream Yeah nuts. You know, if you got those long dog balls that hang out of the cup and you catch a puck in the balls, you're fucked.
But then once we said about, you know, having a cup and it should be protective, top of the laces is awful. You know, you go out to block a shot.
I actually. Like the shin ankle.
Yeah. Karma.
I would flamingo occasionally. And flamingos are saying Where you get on one leg To try to maybe Hopefully not block the shot Right And then what happens is When I do it I'd flamingo And then if I hadn't done it It would hit my shin pad But it hits the top of my feet And fucks up my feet Actually the way The way all my injuries began I took a puck Off the top Broke my big toe It was pretty painful And it started fucking up How I walk So I think the the foot.
So you didn't flamingo? I got one in the mouth, too. Knocked teeth out.
That sucked. Was that kind of cool in a weird way, though, like when you actually get to spit the tooth out? No, because I actually, it pushed these two teeth in.
My two front teeth, it pushed them in. So I came off the ice at the end of the game, and this was in the minors, and the guy said, the doctor, the dentist is there.
He's like, he's like listen put your mouth guard in go home tonight wear the mouth guard because that's how the teeth are supposed to be obviously sitting and shake not a good dentist i was like this is wilkes-barre pennsylvania i'm like that doesn't make sense but all right whatever so i put the mouth guard in i go home and then like three in the morning i wake up i have a massive headache i go in the bathroom i look the mouth guard out, and the two teeth just came right with it. Yeah.
So I was looking at the mouth guard with my two front teeth sticking out. I was like, what the fuck, dog? This guy tried to invent Invisalign.
Yeah, I think his whole plan was I'm going to have this kid scarred for life pulling his tooth. These teeth are like this long, dude.
When you take them out, the roots go up to your nose. So I couldn't believe it just looking at it.
But that's for dentists wilkes-barray pennsylvania that's oh my god that's yeah that that doesn't sound uh like it's what you're supposed to do all right so what series did we miss oh hurricanes hurricanes yeah bruins yeah feels like it felt like the bruins were dead 2-2 now uh thoughts i've on i've been on the hurricanes a little bit this year in terms of saying great regular season team, unreal coach. They love Brendan Moore.
He's an intense, intense dude. But they don't have, in my mind, a cup contending team because they don't have a superstar.
And you saw them play a team game and Ajo's an awesome player and Slavin on D's great. They lost Freddie Anderson who could have been up for the Vezina.
That sucks. So they don't have him right now.
But the first two games, they used their entire team to win. And they won easily.
But what happens is, you go back to Boston. Boston made some lineup changes.
They threw Chris Wagner in, who they'd sent to the minors. He's physical.
They sent him in basically to go decapitate someone. They're like, we're getting pushed around.
I was with a guy at home who doesn't even really watch hockey, but he'll watch the playoffs. He's like, the Bruins aren't even,

they're not even hitting anyone.

Like, I'm used to the big, bad Bruins.

They've changed their game.

So they made some lineup changes.

But the reason I bring up Carolina

on having a superstar

is because what happens,

Marshawn takes over the series.

So he had awful game one and two,

but because he's a superstar,

a level player that the Canes don't have,

he's able to take over,

win game three, game four, he had five points. Jesus.
And now it's a complete series because you look at it like, I think the Bruins will probably lose game five because they really struggle. And Carolina's got a great home ice advantage.
The fans are good. But I still don't know, even if they get by the Bruins, they don't have what it takes because they don't have a game breaker.
They don't have a Marchand. They don't have a Kucherov, Stamkos, Hedman.

There's just even Ovechkin.

It's like you need a next-level star to win a Stanley Cup, I think.

Yeah.

The Canes, ironically enough, kind of won one years back

when they beat the Oilers without a star.

There was a lot of great players.

Stahl.

But, yeah, he was young.

You could argue that they didn't have a superstar, though. Look at that.
You didn't think I had that in my brain. Oh, I knew you did.
Come on. I knew you did.
I don't know which stall. It was Jordan? It was Eric.
That's why I said the last name, not the first. Well, there's three of them that played like 20 years.
I know, I know. Fuck.
But, yeah, I think that'll probably go seven. Who's most likely to win the Ryan Whitney Award this year? Guy who got traded from a team that then wins the cup.
Oh, man. Probably Tyson Jost.
Do you hit him up? Is there like a club? No, I leave my number in every locker room and say, when you're traded and then the team that trade you wins the cup, come down to my house, we'll play some golf, we'll have a drink, and I'll walk you you through this i'll walk you through the laugh that will then turn into a cry be like no it's no big deal don't worry man don't worry you won't you won't uh be upset about this in 20 years you won't think about this every time the playoffs start um what was i saying what was i just talking we were actually gonna do we had an idea we were thinking of like uh episodes that we could do that we could bank and run in the summer. And one of the ideas that we tossed around was talking to guys who got traded from championship teams.
Because it's like, I don't... It sucks.
And obviously you played pro, so that's 0.0001% of the population. You're better than everyone else like that.
But did you get a rate from that? No, everyone asked me that, and I wouldn't even have wanted a rate. have wanted a no i think baseball does that yeah were you rooting against them at the end you had to have been a little bit right yeah it's so weird i think deep down i was yeah but but i'm not gonna lie like a lot of those guys i played in the minors with and i was super happy for them but watching game seven against the wings i i'd be lying if i said.
Yeah, because you— It's just like—it's natural to be like, I can't— Like, fuck these guys. And then when the Wings—when the Penguins were closing it out, Max Talbot, two goals that game.
We played together in the minors. We were same draft and everything.
I went down to my room, and I was just like, oh, my God. I was crying.
I can openly admit. I was like, I can't believe all of my buddies are raising the cup.
And last year we'd also lost to the wings. So I was experiencing kind of both.
I mean, it could have been worse. You could have been Marion Hossa who in the end got three with Chicago, but he left the Penguins to go to the wings and then lost to the Penguins.
So it was tough. But I mean, looking back now, it's like people say that you have a ring.
I'm like, I wouldn't even have wanted the ring. No.
I had nothing to do with it. The only thing I'd do with it is they got Kunitz, who's one of the best players, because of my ass got shipped out.
Well, you know what you need to do is you need to just wait maybe 10 or 15 more years, and then eventually people's minds will just put you on that team. Oh, no.
That's already happened. That's already happened.
Like the 85 Bears, you could have a guy who played in the 90s, like, oh, were you on the 85 but like it just happens over time like there's who are we doing it oh jeff schwartz for remember we i think we had jeff schwartz on her i talked to him once i was like so it was like to win a super bowl and he's like i wasn't on those teams like oh the giants yeah it's like all right cool like i just kind of thought you were on the other side of it though biz was on a cup winning team people like you weren't on that team right there's no chance i was on that fucking team but you're in the picture right the the beginning of the year picture where they go back and they look at that team there's ryan whitney right there that's the team that will and then in the dvd i just like fade away and kunitz's face goes and that's how we got it done but uh no yeah it's it sucks and the funny thing about that is like we'll do the meet and greets for Chicklets. And people will be like, man, it was great you won that cup.
And I'm like, yeah, it was awesome. I don't even correct him now.
Like, it was so sick. I got buckled.
You know what was great during the stream last night? Actually, this was Ryan's first time watching a stream with Frank the Tank. I know.
No, no, no, no. Well, you got to experience his jokes for the first time.
Yeah, I hadn't heard some of those jokes. Yeah, well, also tuned in.
I put on the stream like five minutes into it, and Wit was just stuck between Frank and Stu, and you maybe hadn't had a drink yet, and your face. I texted him.
I was like, oh, my God. You're in for it.
I came in for one night. I didn't even really talk that loud, I didn't think.
I have no voice. Merle's is like, you were sitting next to Stu and Frank the Tank.

I'm pretty sure you don't even realize you were just screaming over them.

Right.

Frank's jokes were hit.

It's like what we talked about at the Nets game,

where he had a new audience for the first time.

He hit them with the, what time is it?

It's six past Igor.

That was great.

Remember that?

And he hates the Rangers.

That was great.

Hates them.

But classic Frank the Tank last night,

I'm high-fiving him as the Penguins continue to score. And after the game, he's like, I actually bet on the Rangers.
Yeah, of course. Of course.
Of course. You were high-fiving me as we scored.
Never won a scratch ticket. No.
That's what he claims. Yeah.
I mean, he literally, we then went, he claimed it like a year ago. And then we went and bought like 10 of them and he won five bucks.
We're like, there you go. So we're like scratch what was talking about how like frankie frankie would kill himself uh if it meant that it would prevent the rangers from ever winning a cup and then uh frank tank was like yeah that's right i would and then whitney was like wait i was oh this is i was talking about frankie frankie borelli not you and he's like oh well yeah i would do it too and i was like what's frank what's your middle name? Frank's like, it's Earl.
Yeah. He's Frankie.
Yeah. Frank the Tank is also Frankie.
I was like, PFT, did you know that? He's like, no, randomly that worked out. And then all of a sudden, Tank went into.
And also, my middle name is Earl. Like, the show my name is Earl.
I was like, what is going on right now? Yes. Yes.
Yes. He's one in a billion.
We've got a couple of those guys running around. Alright, so who was your pick before the playoffs? The Lightning.
I said I won't pick against them until they don't win. That's smart.
And you're not changing. I'm on the Lightning.
I'm on the Lightning, but I'm going to be very surprised if the Avs don't win the Stanley Cup. I think the Maple Leafs are going to win this series.
Next series, people are already saying the winner of Blues Minnesota, which is very unfair they had to play, two of the best teams in the league. They play Colorado.
A lot of people are saying whoever wins will beat Colorado. I don't see it happening.
I also need Edmonton and Calgary because then I at least have one Canadian team in the Western Conference Final. I need Calgary to lose because I have to get my ears pierced if they go first.
Get a hoop ring. No, I'm getting a straight Barry Bonds cross earring.
Okay, that works. I think I'll be able to pull it off, actually.
That works. Mar from home alone with a hangy earring.
That will be nasty. That'll be nasty.
What about the whole debate that we were having last night about the NHL being rigged? Because I think that you're insane for not thinking. I was telling him, like, what does the NHL want? NHL would prefer to have Caps versus Penguins.
One last showdown between Ovi and Crosby. Can I give my PSA from last night? And Whitney was saying there's no chance that any ref could ever get on the horn with the league and be like, oh, call it this way.
You're misrepresenting me again. You're disinformation.
This is like four years after the Blackhawks were good, they still were on fucking 45 NBC games every Sunday. Yeah, but that's because they're an original six big market.
My whole point to everyone, and I took the NBA out of this. So anyone listening, NBA can be rigged.
It probably is. When people say that the league wants things to happen and makes things happen, I am not denying the fact the league probably wants Crosby Ovechkin.
And in the NFL, the league wants whatever. Rodgers, Brady, whatever.

They're not doing anything.

They're not calling referees on the side and saying,

hey, man, you got to make sure that the Penguins win.

People who say the league is making things happen in these games

are out of their fucking minds.

They have holes in their pants.

Here's what I always say.

It's fun to do, and it's fun to talk about rigged and conspiracies, right?

But anyone who actually believes it, do you know how many people would have to be involved and how many people would not be able to say anything it's it's like it's crazy it wouldn't be like one thing in the world but from fans but it's a little bit like you can you can affect the outcome of a series without affecting how directly the out because uh like for instance if it were the nba you say okay we need to call the game a bit tighter. We watched the film from the refereeing in the last game, and there was a lot of hand-checking going on.
So we need to make sure that that's going to be a point of emphasis in this next game, which then indirectly affects the team that you want to win. I think that happens naturally in a lot of sports.
I did not include the NBA. The NBA is rigged.
Tim Donahue, that story went under the rug so quick. Yeah, I don't think the commissioner is saying that.
It's crazy. There's no way.
It's crazy talk. Because they would have to say it.
This is for macro dosing. This is not.
There's no way they're actually saying like, there are refs that call games poorly or like it will affect the game. But I don't think a commissioner is like, hey, we need to.
It's a joke. It's a fun joke to believe in.
But I think some people believe it, like that guy. I think that it's more likely than you think it is.
Because all it would take would be one director officiating or one official that's the go-to hatchet guy for the league. That's willing to throw his entire career away.
Not only the entire career, the entire league. Literally, the league would cease to exist if the actual league office is dictating who wins this.
But there are Rangers fans who are probably like, the league wants Crosby to win. It's like, people are absolutely out of their mind to think that.
You don't think that an official has ever been told by like his boss who's reviewing the tape, right? Maybe there were a couple penalties that didn't get called the game before and those were actual missed calls. You don't think that an official could be like,

this next game we need to make sure that we call it tight and that we make sure that we don't allow guys to hold Crosby

through the neutral zone or something like that

because we missed a couple of those calls last time.

Knowing that the end result would be it's more than likely

that Crosby would then advance to the next round

and then more ratings on television.

I'm not going to say they might not at times be like, hey, you're missing a lot of holds. I don't think they're bringing up like Crosby didn't get any.
Like last year in the four games, the Oilers got swept. Connor McDavid didn't draw one penalty.
He's the best player in the game. If it would have ever happened, it would have been last year.
It would have been like maybe game four, call a penalty on McDavid. And it still didn't happen.
I am not in the camp of the leagues making calls to officials who then calling referees to be like, hey, guys, we got to make sure Pittsburgh wins. I agree with that entirely.
I'm not saying that it's that blatant or that obvious. I have to say that there are ways that it can happen where you protect the superstars.
Well, I think protecting the superstars happens on its own. I think that's just a general referee bias that happens in all sports, that you're going to call a Tom Brady differently than you call a Mike Glennon.
Like, that's just human bias. I don't think there's anything rigged about that.
It's just like, why does LeBron never fall out? Or like, why, you know, like, because it's LeBron. They're the best.
And they call it a little bit differently. Like like they will give we always talk about like oh an mvp gets certain calls that everyone else doesn't get i think that's absolutely true but i don't think it's like a specific hey we got to make sure this happens for the league perfectly said uh all right i have one last question it's a rowback question r-h-o-b-a-c-k use code take for 20 your first purchase.
Do you have any questions, Billy for Whitney?

Wow. No.
Are you fucking

serious? You didn't

come with one question?

Oh my god, is this

a joke? Billy. No, it's not a joke.
Billy's choking

right now. Jesus Christ.
This is tough to watch.

Hey guys, sweet interview. How you enjoy

your Saturday? How am I enjoying my Saturday fucking Tuesday, bro? What? Holy shit. Billy, what was that? I was totally unprepared for this.
Billy's just choking. Just talk to him like a person.
Okay, I actually have another piece of evidence that there may be bias in certain sporting events.

What?

The scoring on the Canelo Boval fight.

Totally.

Boxing is a totally different thing.

I know.

If you say boxing is rigged, I completely agree with you.

Me too.

That is a totally different situation.

It's such a nice Saturday, though, right now.

Yeah, it is such a nice Saturday.

Why are we working?

Boxing, Billy.

Boxing.

I've just been in Vegas for a week, and I've finally been feeling a little regular. Billy, boxing is 100% rigged.
Yeah. I even said it on the broadcast.
I was like, I'm going to try to score this how I think they are, because I know they're going to give everything to Canelo that's 50-50, and they did. Oh, my God.
That is a huge hole in Billy's pants. You're trying to score.
that's like they're like professionals you don't know how to score a fight no i was just saying who won the round like i was just going along with them doing who won the round and i was saying every 50 50 round i would give to canelo just because i figured that's what they're doing they ended up 115 113 i the best i got to was 116 112 and i was doing everything like so yeah Canelo got busted on on that Yeah no he showed up It was very close If Canelo didn't If Bivol didn't win the 12th round It would have been a draw Which is a joke They're so rigged They were basically giving everything Because Bivol won that fight no matter what you're saying Easily He two pieced him Yeah It was insane Probably because fucking you were there and you fired him up so much. He's like, I got to win so I never see this kid again.
Saturday night, though. Yeah, what are you up to tomorrow? Yeah.
Oh, I'm watching football because it's November, right? Going to church? How many rounds of golf are you playing this summer? Is your elbow okay? My elbow's great. I had surgery.
That's awesome. I love golf guys who are like, got get surgery so i can just no i did i did i did every possible thing to not get surgery i did prp i did physical therapy i didn't play golf for three months you didn't play for three months was driving you crazy yeah and then i came back and was still injured and then i got another mri the guy's like sorry to break i was like the fact i'm getting fucking surgery for golfers.
Yeah, right. It's very funny.
What the fuck, dude? Have you got the surgery yet? Yeah, I had it in November. Have you tried peptides? I did those post-surgery.
Oh, you did? Yeah, I think they actually helped the recovery a lot. You could have maybe done that before your surgery.
I was getting like, what are they called? IVs and stuff with all that stuff in there. Listen, getting surgery from like a golf injury is so pathetic.
And I remember being done with hockey and all. I had seven foot and ankle surgeries and wrist surgery.
I was like, I'm finally done. And then I had a torn tendon in my elbow.
I'm like, this is a joke. Right.
But now that I'm back, we're really busy till the cup ends. July, August, I'll play 50 times.
And you you are could you ever get have you played a pro-am i played in the pro-am at a tournament in boston it's no longer a tournament um with tony fina that was fun uh he's a good guy but those pro-ams are weird like people pay huge money to play with a pro it's kind of like the pro he's getting ready for the tournament he doesn't want anything to do with you right so i'll play in play in tournaments with my buddies and stuff, but not pro-amster. What's the best round you've ever golfed? 65.
I was about 65 last year. How many Mulligans did you take? I took three breakfast balls, so I guess it was a 72.
How many balls do you take onto the course, knowing that you're going to lose something? I always have five balls in my bag. I took 20.
And you lost them all? All of them. And he had a caddy to go search in the desert.
I'm also like if I hit it, we were playing a scramble, so I'd hit it like in the sand trap and I just wouldn't go get that. I actually think that- You're like, go get that one.
No, he wouldn't get it either. I was like- You were buying Mulligan cards.
The caddy would be like, oh, should I get it? I'm like, no, just leave it, dude. I've never finished a round of golf now that I think about it.
A lot of people want golf to be 14 holes, they say. 14 is exactly right.
Either I quit before it's over or I just lose all my balls. Or you get blacked out because it's Saturday.
I lose all my balls. I'm just like, I'll drive the cart.
Yeah. Hop in.
14 is right. Front seven, back seven.
That's what people say they want. I like that.
Also, a question about golf etiquette. I was doing this thing and it worked.
Every time Elio went to take a putt, I would go and pick up his ball and replace it. Oh, yeah.
So, yeah, you'd, like, basically mark your ball with a cracker like Happy Gilmore and then eat the cracker and not know where the ball goes. Like, why are you touching my ball? I'm like, you let me touch your ball.
You can stop me. If anyone's listening, and if anyone's listening, you guys have about 2 million listeners.
It's crazy. I don't know why they're over in Asiaia and and far whatever they they have it why in america do we not have night golf yeah i understand i understand the cost of like the lighting entire course but you can get a short you know a four five thousand yard 18 hole course so they're all short par fours or par threes and and play golf at night tee off at 10 o'clock with your buddies like It's like, I want to invest in it.
Somebody write me on Twitter. This is the father of two talking right now because you know you get squeezed out.
It's like, just let me play at 9 p.m. I know.
When the kids are asleep, the wife's asleep, everything's good. I know.
I'm like, but I'll still play at noon and then back at 10 p.m. I think too many people would just be pissing all over the course at night.
It would just be a free-for-all. Like, you get out there at night.
I mean, people piss all over the course during the day, too. Yeah, usually, but you go to the woods.
Billy doesn't even need to pull his pants down. He goes right through the hole in his pants.
Night golf is great. I love night golf.
It's awesome. Just going to Topgolf in general at night where you get to see the ball, like, flying against the night sky.
Well, speaking of that, is Brandon Walker's video fake? No, it's real. So why did it come out that— Oh, we edited the fake one.
We made it look fake. Oh, okay.
So that was real. Yeah, that dude compounded.
He compounded. But at night it does look different.
Yeah, he said he has no other game, though. Like he said he can just crush it off the tee.
Oh, yeah, he's a big moron. Imagine him trying to chip a ball.
I love Brandon. Why don't they do like nighttime golf tournaments? Like why doesn't the PGA Tour have a nighttime event? They did.

Remember the Tiger Phil in 2006 or something?

Phil had lost $30 million the night before in Vegas.

Talk about a fucking fall from the graces.

Jesus Christ.

Did he say like $50 million in two years?

$40 million in four years, they said.

It could happen.

And that Billy Walters, that legendary gambler, is coming out with a book,

and I think some of the Phil stories are going to be ugly for him. Let's not shame people who lose.
No, also, you have to judge it compared to his earnings, too. Phil Mickelson, he could afford to lose $40 million.
Let's just say it could happen to anyone. I don't know if anyone can.
Who lost $40 million in this room? Big Cat? No, I didn't lose $40 million, but comparatively speaking, you can lose a lot. Oh, yeah, I've lost a lot.
Yeah. But I haven't lost't lost a lot by the way i don't have to call it but the way that big cat said i don't know if i've lost 40 yeah definitely implies that he's lost at least one sometimes i think about it like if i ever wrote if i ever wrote a book oh i could sell books just by actually sitting down and like doing the math and trying to calculate my career losses your wife immediately divorces you i never want to think about it.
Well, I told you the story when I lost 6,000 to Elio on the golf course. She's like, you lost 6,000? And I was like, yeah, but I could have lost 10 if I didn't hit two awesome putts.
So really, I'm up four. And she's like, that's not how it works.
I'm like, that's exactly how it works. That's a gambler's mind.
That's exactly how it works. That's how gamblers do it.
All right, Whit, thank you. You're the bachelor.
Anytime, boys. Anytime.
We're going to need you back on before the cup. Yeah, cup.
Maybe me and Biz will come in here together. Yes.
During the cup. That would be great.
We did that. That feels like 10 years ago.
Yeah, I know. We need to have both of you.
That was awesome. We'll do two hours.
Yeah, I love it, boys. I love it.
I appreciate it. And all you guys keep crushing it.
How come you never invite RA? Pals. What do you mean? You never invite RA.
You guys never invite RA. How am I going to invite someone to your show, you dummy? That's also true.
All right, he's invited. All right, peace.
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Okay, let's wrap up.

We got some FAQs.

Henry?

Yes.

Do it.

Hey, Thick Cat, Fighter Pilot, PFT, King Honk, Dip Guy, Jake, and Camp Edge 275, Billy.

Nope, that's not what that person is.

No, Billy.

Cut Billy's mic.

Billy, you had zero pounds last Tuesday.

What did you all want to do as a career prior to Barstool,

and what led you into podcasting?

I want to be an astronaut.

Yeah, I mean, you go back far enough.

Like, baseball player.

I think that was my first...

I think I wanted to be a baseball player when I was like six.

I went for Halloween as just like a kid with a bat for five years in a row.

Yeah.

I got really into selling used dogs for a while in Austin.

That was kind of my thing.

I really just didn't know what I wanted to do,

I'm going to go ahead. the bat for five years in a row yeah um i got really into selling used dogs for a while in austin that was kind of my thing i i really just didn't know what i wanted to do and i did you know everyone gets to that point in like their late 20s where they're like all right what am i gonna do is this gonna be my career so yeah i mean it's i didn't really have i wouldn't say i had many dreams outside of anything i like i thought maybe i'd go to law school then i was like i'm not smart enough thought maybe i'd go to business school i took i took a gmack class and i just spent the entire time gambling in the back row yeah um in college yeah in college they gave me one of those placement tests because i was a uh i was a junior and i was still undeclared for my major because i didn't know what I wanted to do at all.
The Rex Ryan? Yeah.

But yeah, the one that he scored was a state record in the history of Maryland for problem solving.

Now, they were just like, OK, fill out all these questions.

And then I had the widest variety of possible jobs that I could be in.

And so I was like, well, this made me more confused about what I want to do.

And you like I just wanted to get a degree.

And then I'm like, I'll figure it out afterwards.

And then I think for a while I wanted to be a comedy writer, and I started doing a little bit of that. You lose track of time.
When you work with a team, sometimes it's hard to get everybody on the same schedule. Then I think a lot of people just throw up their hands and they get an office job, and they're like, okay, I guess I need to make money.
Right. Which is what I did.
That's what I did. Yep.
Yeah, and so then I was, you I was that's what Hank did

big office Hank

and then one thing leads to another

and sometimes you find your way back to the thing that you love to do

Billy still wants to be a finance bro deep down

no my OG list was

NFL player

number one if that didn't work out

Navy SEAL

number two

just so everyone knows you'd still give it all up

to be a Navy SEAL

which you can right now. Then I think.
You probably wouldn't pass the background check. You've been hanging out with Russians for too long.
Yeah, that's true. No, but number three was then Army Ranger if I couldn't be a Navy SEAL.
And then I think I didn't have any plans under number four. Yeah.
Great job shutting Pivotal down for that question. That was very discreet.
Anyway, but realistically, before the pandemic, I wasn't even asking about Putin. Shut up.
Before the pandemic. I was like, who texted him after the game? Shut up.
Shut up. And Billy was like, stop, stop.
Don't make him say Putin. I was like, I wasn't asking about Putin.
I mean, realistically, before the pandemic, I was on track to be in real estate finance, probably a mortgage broker. You're on track? I was.
Oh, my God. And then I literally, then I was just like, pandemic it.
I was like, fuck it. I would love to just see a different sliding doors, sitting down, trying to make the biggest purchases of your life, and Billy football is sitting across from the table being like, all right, here's what we can get you into.
Billy's a year fixed. Billy's like, listen, I know that this school or this home that you're looking at is really close to the school that you want your kids to go to.
I know it checks off everything that you need, three bedrooms, two bathrooms, but I found this other sick one that's got a chicken coop. Yeah, I was actually more packaging, multifamily.
Yeah, Billy would have been the perfect, perfect guy to help bring the entire world to its knees in 2008 with Subprime. He would have definitely been like, I'm just fucking rolling it.
I'm killing it. The times will never stop.
I got six houses and I don't even pay a dollar on it. Dude, you were working right I was actually watching a movie about that the other day Loki you don't even need a job to get this loan Bro All you need to do Is just have a credit card And you can get a six million dollar house I'm finishing up my senior year At the University of Oklahoma So I'm about about to graduate pretty nervous for the upcoming year wanted to ask you guys what's one best piece of advice you could give to someone graduating college i think we've talked with billy yeah we start with billy uh make sure you graduate yep that's good one i think we talked about this on life uh the one of the life episodes but i'm a big proponent before you graduate go take a road trip with all your boys go get just hop in the car doesn't matter where but you will always remember that like go pick a weekend just go anywhere and you'll have a fucking awesome time you'll remember it forever my best advice would be you're gonna be in the same class as a lot of people that go on to do like what seemed like really impressive things within the first couple years after graduating maybe they get a job in a sector that pays them a lot of money don't compare yourself to them you're going to feel like you have to compare yourself to them be like why is my career not necessarily at the same level as this person's that person just found themselves in a different situation it doesn't mean anything for the course of your life like what you do in your 20s can be ultimately inconsequential to what happens for the rest of your life.
So don't, don't like rush into being an adult too quick. Like for instance, when Billy becomes a Navy seal at 33, he'll be like, it doesn't matter that I podcasted through my twenties.
Exactly. Yeah.
Billy, why did you have Navy seals ahead of army Rangers? I was a really good swimmer. Ah, okay.
I'm a, I'm a very good swimmer still. Like I was in middle school.
I was sick of swimming, but then I got bored because basketball was cooler in high school. And I was like, I want to play basketball.
Right. Okay.
I want to just be running around in bathing suits with a bunch of dudes. Right.
But you'd be doing that a lot in the Navy Seals. They're not in Speedos, though.
Can we figure out a way to get Billy to go to like Bud's training for a week that would be an incredible video chef donnie did it yeah like let's let's have you do it i i think that there's like a decent chance that billy would die i want to see him drown the part where they make you drown and then revive you i can hold my breath for 50 uh 50 yards in a pool it'd be great if then like glass shatters they they bring billy out to him, and then me and PFD show up and we just grab everyone off of him. Let him die.
This is how he wanted to go out. A Navy SEAL.
Press F to pay respects. I'm going to give memes of C- for picking some of these questions.
Very basic. This one, though.
Sup, dad of 2CAT, PF3C, handsome Hank, best in the office, Jake, and and Billy Feetball What are the plans for the show When Big Cat moves to Chicago Oh good question Oh I'm going to quit So part of my take is Eight months from now No I'm not moving for another year Yeah but that's to listen to this show It's all over And then everyone's leaving And Big Cat's also going to quit doing the show Yes, I'm actually going to become a Navy SEAL So the show's going to end Uh-huh And I'm going to Yeah, I'm going to I would say just trust I'm a rocket scientist Everything will work out Yeah Trust We don't know exactly Yeah, we'll figure it out The times and the locations And when things are going to happen That's still kind of up in the air right now but I can tell you that part of my take will continue yes don't worry about it this is why you make sure you graduate that was joke okay I'm getting what's the joke because we're quitting and he's gonna need to find a job oh so we but we had already moved on to saying don't worry guys we're still gonna do it it was a joke would have billy we were doing he's got an education he can fall back on part of my take will continue we're gonna be fine there's a i love you billy i will say like there's a pretty good chance i'm gonna move to chicago yeah but there's no nothing set in stone right and there's no pressure i you know there's it's it's we're gonna we're gonna it will always be a priority for me and for pft and for everyone in this room so no matter what we'll figure it out and we'll be okay and uh yeah we'll be okay because we we are very we're very proud people about our content so we'll never do anything that will make that suffer. I think that would be the best answer.
Don't you worry. That's it.
Yeah. All right.
And just the verbal meme, it's all the AWLs sleeping at night, and it's Billy getting all the knives in his back and taking it for you. Just remember, while you're sleeping, Billy's out doing God knows what to my Uber rating.
Yeah, remember when Billy got kicked off Uber? So when you, yeah, here's the thing about Billy is that like, even when he's trying to make a joke about something, he's literally telling on himself for doing something bad in the past. When did I get kicked off Uber? You got suspended from Uber for like a year.
Oh no, that was Hank. My bad, that was Hank.
Sorry, Hank. But Billy, that joke was a good joke.
You just got Rico'd. That was a good joke, Billy, but it was just, it was like, you said it after the part where we were joking about it being over.
But the timing, I'm working on timing. I didn't have a good place to interject.
I didn't know where that was going. Billy's coming off a long weekend right now.
He thought it was, his first Saturday show You know because the Ryan Whitney ending was something else. You should have seen it, Hank.
I asked Billy to ask a question to Whitney and he just goes, so how's your Saturday? And we're like, what? It's Tuesday. No.
I should have asked him why hockey players don't play in Canada like the good ones that they win. But retrospect.
If you want to hear about my time in Vegas, Beer and Clothing in Las Vegas, a blog, the next American bloggagy, not blogville, is airing on Barstool Sports. It should be up by the time you hear this.
It's a good piece of writing. Billy, can I just say something for real? It's the Mexican-American blogville novel.
I like blogology blogology yeah I'll break the character real quick I was very proud of you for like the entire DAZN fight and everything you did you did great content I honestly it's an awesome thing I I'm just really people told me Billy was scared to drink and I was so proud yeah wow yeah I was in Vegas for a week no but, but yeah, no, you were tested. Like, Billy Football was tested, and he passed the test, and he did a great, great job with all that stuff.
I was going to suggest putting you on that medication that makes you throw up if you drink alcohol. Like, just slipping it into yourself.
We should get him that. Caleb got that stomach surgery, because he had, like, a bad stomach.
Not the Rex Ryan stomach surgery, but if Caleb throws up, he dies. What? Yeah't know that he could die if he throws up that's terrifying yeah that would if i had that surgery i would just throw up from the stress yeah about thinking about not throwing up so we need to get that for billy okay why so then you can't drink to the point of having to throw up wait well we're not gonna fucking make you get a surgery you don't need, Billy.
I don't know.

I did a tattoo earlier.

We should make you get the shin lengthening surgery to get you up to like 6'7". In Billy's defense, I did also just say that we're going to have him do buds training and kill him.

So you're fair to be like, I don't want this surgery.

That's how we would want to go out.

Yeah.

All right, numbers.

I'm going to go 17.

8. 22.
That's 17. I'm going to go 17.
Eight.

22.

That's 17.

I'm going to go 21.

What?

25.

69.

Here about my...

69 is my new number.

Blackjack, Hot Street, and the next great American blogology.

Eight.

What is that? Oh, my God my god 21 No fucking way I'm on the greatest hot streak ever I'm on the greatest hot streak ever Holy shit At 21 Rich strike Yeah Dude Just so you know Billy You're not moving to Chicago with us. I know.
I'm just kidding. That was a joke.

Love you guys.

Hell yeah, Billy.

What a hot streak. Oh, I'm taking this hot streak to Barstool iCasino in Hoboken, Black Rock.

We're going to be there on Wednesday night.

Green Rock.

Green Rock.

Green Rock.

Black Rock is a real estate company.

Is Black Rock the company that kills people?

No, that's Black Water.

Black Rock is buying up all the houses.

It's Bill Gates.

They are also killing people.

Yes.

Got it.

Killing middle America.

I can't believe that was fucking 21.

Yeah, that's crazy.

Do you have an animal fact, Billy?

Yes.

Unspayed ferrets will die if they don't get pregnant.

Love you guys.

Damn.

They'll die of stress.

Yeah, that's a big time bonk for Ferris

We'll be coming for your love, okay Take on me Take take me on. I'll be gone for the day of change.
Needless to say, I'm all the sentence, but I'll be back. Take me young.
I'll be gone in a day or two. All the things that you say, yeah, is it life or just to play my worries away You're all the things I've got to remember Are you shying away? I'll be coming for you anyway Are you shying away? I'll be coming for you anyway.
Take on me.

Take me on. I'll be gone in a dream.

I'll be gone

In a chance

I want to take a lead