Jake Arrieta, NBA Playoffs And Monday Reading Is Back

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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we have a great guest, great interview, Jake Arietta, former Cy Young champion, world champion, talks all baseball.

Speaker 1 I think he'll be a guest going forward talking baseball because it was great to talk to him. Some cool stories.
We also have the opening weekend of NBA playoffs. Ball is life.

Speaker 1 Some awesome games. Even games that were blowouts were awesome.

Speaker 1 I don't know if it's too late to say this, but crowds being back. It's fun.
Crowds are

Speaker 2 this the first time that the crowds have been officially back in the NBA? It was like Havzies last year for the first time. This is, I think, no, you know what it's going to be?

Speaker 2 When Toronto fans come back for NHL playoffs. At that point, we have to stop saying crowds are back.

Speaker 1 Yes, crowds back.

Speaker 5 We're going to talk a little Kyrie, who's back, and then we got a Monday reading for when cool, creamy ranch meets tangy, bold buffalo, the whole is greater than the sum of its sauce.

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Speaker 1 Today is Monday, April 18th, and ball is life. NBA playoffs, baby.
What a weekend.

Speaker 2 Great start. The game that we're all looking forward to was the Bucs.

Speaker 2 Excuse me, not the Bucks. The Celtics and the Nets.
That's the whomp bet.

Speaker 2 Everyone here is invested. Jake, probably more so than anybody else, where where we'll have to take a full tin of dip if there's a whomping.
And nobody whomped anybody. Really?

Speaker 2 Really, it was just a great game.

Speaker 2 I'm excited to watch the rest of the series. Hank, I'm curious to know your thoughts.

Speaker 2 I know that you probably went from being super confident to being like, oh, shit, the sky is falling to being like, oh, shit, great job.

Speaker 2 I'm glad that we won that one, but still a little bit concerned.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you had a moment where it was like, this could be a very bad loss because the Celtics were cruising.

Speaker 3 Celtics were cruising, and then Kyrie dominated in a way that you haven't seen since he was on the the Cavs. And it was just like, this is the worst.

Speaker 3 He was talking shit before, and he's backing it up. He's hitting every single shot.
The Celtics blew a 13-point lead.

Speaker 3 They have, like, they were, they had to execute perfectly at the end of the game, and they did somehow. And it was an unbelievable finish.

Speaker 1 So, can I ask a question about Kyrie? Because it's going to be the big story going into Monday. Yes.
Where do you stand with him?

Speaker 1 Because, from a neutral party perspective, and I think PFT probably agrees with me, I love every second of it. At this point, it feels like it's fair play across the board.

Speaker 1 If you miss the game, Kyrie, at halftime, someone called him like a bitch and he said, suck my dick to a fan.

Speaker 2 He said, suck my dick, bitch.

Speaker 1 He sucked my dick, bitch.

Speaker 1 He was giving fans the middle finger. He was giving fans a middle finger behind the head, which was a super sneaky, great move.
He was doing the cry face.

Speaker 1 And what we like in sports, he was backing it all up, and he was playing out of his fucking mind. And at the end of the day, as long as it like doesn't cross a line, I think this is great for sports.

Speaker 1 I think Celtics fans should boo the fuck out of him, should hate him with the fire of a thousand sons, and Kyrie should do everything back to them. And that is what sports is all about.

Speaker 3 I fully agree. I mean, it's like you want the villains to embrace being a villain.
He's embracing it.

Speaker 1 Sort of.

Speaker 3 Sort of, but it's like,

Speaker 3 as long as he doesn't get mad now, he's like, I don't like being called like a pussy and a loser. And now, obviously, that's all anyone's going to do.
But yeah, if he's going to back it up, it's war.

Speaker 3 It's wartimes. Like, all is fair in war.
Yep.

Speaker 2 Period. That's what they say.

Speaker 2 I think that Kyrie is actually, here's what's going to happen because I do agree with Big Cat's take that it's all good. Like, I like the dynamic.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 2 I actually think that Kyrie likes the dynamic, too.

Speaker 2 He said, so after the game, he did say, like, when people start yelling pussy and bitch and fuck you, there's only so much you can take as a competitor.

Speaker 1 What does he think is going to happen after that? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 2 He's like, nah, fuck that. That's the playoffs.
It is what it is. I know what to expect in here.
I'm going to give that same energy back to them.

Speaker 2 And then after that, the quote that's not being, because I watched this press conference and they're taking that quote and now the media is like, it's so disgusting what's happening with the fans in Kyrie.

Speaker 2 After that, Kyrie said it was fun. Yeah.
Going back and forth.

Speaker 1 He said, embrace it. Yeah.
Embrace it.

Speaker 2 He said, embrace it, and he said it was fun.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 2 I love that. That's awesome for sports.
It's good. Like, people are always like, oh, I missed the days when players and teams hated each other and hated cities.
Well, guess what?

Speaker 2 That's what you're getting right now.

Speaker 2 We're in the middle of a player and a city hating each other and also that translating into great basketball on the court and kyrie's having fun i'm just worried that what's going to happen is since all these quotes are being taken out by the media people are going to be like they're going to turn kyrie into like a big victim and everything and then turn and then turn the celtics fans into like the big bullies the media doesn't like the anti-vax guys well here's the thing it's a media it's a pyramid walk and a hard time the media also likes the ramadan fast guy so it's like

Speaker 2 kyrie's got everybody all fucked up i really do think that they're going to make this a thing where they're going to vilify Hank's beloved Boston fans.

Speaker 1 Well, that's what

Speaker 1 you do.

Speaker 1 Here's the thing. Here's all I'll say.

Speaker 1 I'm defending you right now, though. Here's all I'll say, is that I think that's out the window.
Again, until there's a line crossed,

Speaker 1 I don't think there's going to be a vilifying of either side because Kyrie's literally giving the finger to like kids and families, which I'm cool with. I want that to happen.

Speaker 1 He's telling people to suck his dick. I think that makes it a little bit harder for people to be like, poor Kyrie.
Also loved that Kyrie before the series said,

Speaker 1 so giving the energy to what the fans are doing, that's not where my attention is. And then he walked on the court.
And that was like, again, he backed it up and played.

Speaker 1 Like, if he sucked, I think that you'd have a different story where it's like, oh, the fans got Kyrie off his game.

Speaker 1 He wasn't playing, you know, up to the level that he should be playing, especially because the Nets need him at that level. But he was incredible, and it all was good.

Speaker 1 Like, I loved every second of it. I just, I want more of it.
That's what sports are all about. Guys, fans hating a certain player, a player upping their game to stick it to the fans.

Speaker 1 And then, of course, Hank, you end up winning the game with, you know, Kevin Durant, who didn't have his best game,

Speaker 1 losing Jason Tatum with two seconds left. And after the Celtics missed a million layups, they win with a buzzer beater layup, which doesn't happen very, very often.

Speaker 3 Jalen Brown scored right away on the two-for-one possession that they had to have. That was an easy layup somehow.
It was bad.

Speaker 2 And then the Celtics played unbelievable defense on Kyrie kyrie and kd in the possession right before they won and you made a great point uh when we were just hanging out before the show you're like old marcus smart takes that three and he would have yeah he definitely would have taken that three that possession at the end there with marcus smart that's like that's the give and take that you have when you have a certifiably crazy person on your team because sometimes he'll make a stupid play and it'll just completely ruin it this was honestly like it was a borderline stupid play the way that it all unfolded that's clearly not like what they had drawn up but he's so crazy that he's the only player in the league that's crazy enough to make that play and get the ball to Tatum.

Speaker 3 I also think it's not even old Marcus Smart. It's like you could, the same thing could happen next game and he might shoot it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like that was just, we got locked. But it was a great game one.

Speaker 1 It is the series that everyone will be talking about because it's definitely like the Nets are not a usual seven seed. Like that's the thing is their star power doesn't make them annoying.

Speaker 1 I doubt there's been a time where a two versus seven has been close to a pick'em in the series. And yeah,

Speaker 1 we're now

Speaker 1 going to go on next Monday in Brooklyn. Now, the Celtics are one win away from avoiding a whamping.
They are. Yes.
So we'll see.

Speaker 1 The first serve goes to the Celtics on the Wamping.

Speaker 2 I think they held serve. This was a lucky revenge game.
The Leprechaun was out for blood. But I don't think that, Hank, if I were in your position, I wouldn't feel like super confident.

Speaker 1 No, every game's going to be like this. They're two really good teams.

Speaker 3 But winning the first game, you're more confident.

Speaker 3 That would be an extremely deflating loss. The Celtics had lost, and I'm sure the Nets and the Nets fans are like, like, fuck.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think game one for the Celtics was a must-win.

Speaker 1 They had to have that one.

Speaker 3 They had to have that one the way it played out. Like, they had to have a...
They couldn't

Speaker 3 lose with a 13-point lead and blow it with Kyrie hitting every single jumper to beat them.

Speaker 1 That would be soul-crushing. Going into the game,

Speaker 1 neither team had to win it, but the way the Celtics were going to lose it would have been very, very bad.

Speaker 1 All right, so we should just, I mean, there was great basketball all around.

Speaker 1 I don't know. We could start with Saturday afternoon.
Luca not playing is a huge bummer because I think I've come to the conclusion, and I don't know if we have jazz fans that are

Speaker 1 fans of this show. Maybe a few.
I'm so sick of this jazz team. I want them out of here.
Yeah, they're like,

Speaker 1 Yeah, they are. They hate each other.

Speaker 2 This is the one series that we told you you did not have to pay attention to if Luca's not playing.

Speaker 1 Right, he should be bad.

Speaker 2 It's going to be boring. But even when he comes back with a calf injury, he's not going to be Luca.
He's going to be lowercase L Luca.

Speaker 1 But they almost won.

Speaker 1 The Mavs almost won, and I'm just, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I just want, it feels very reminiscent of that Clippers team when we were like, get, you know, get them out of our face, where it's like, I just don't want to be told that Rudy Gobert and Mike Conley and Donovan Mitchell are going to have like an extended run in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 How much get them out of our face?

Speaker 2 How much is Mike Conley getting paid right now? Is he still on a huge contract?

Speaker 1 And when he first signed, everyone's like, that's a key piece.

Speaker 2 Good for him.

Speaker 1 So I'm just, I just, I want Luca to come back and do some fucking cool shit.

Speaker 2 I think it's a perfect team for Utah.

Speaker 2 You just, you get to have a team that's good during the regular season, go into your little corporate events, your youth group retreats to the games, win most of them.

Speaker 1 Three years, $68 million.

Speaker 2 Pretty nice for Mike Conley.

Speaker 1 For year three, though?

Speaker 2 This is year three, I think.

Speaker 1 No, this is year one. Oh, it's year one.
And they didn't even have Joe Inside. Oh, he restarted, yeah.

Speaker 3 He was like there. Yeah.
He was like the lovable.

Speaker 3 I liked him a lot.

Speaker 1 You're right.

Speaker 2 Mike Connolly, former teammate of Mark Titus. Yep.
It'd be interesting to see how much money Mark Titus' teammates have gotten over the decent amount.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, Evan Turner's over $100 million alone.
Greg Odin.

Speaker 2 I heard Greg Odin is now an assistant coach somewhere in Indiana. I forget what school he's at.

Speaker 1 Well, he was making money. He was a grad assistant on Ohio State for a while there.

Speaker 1 And he should. My rule should be allowed.
He should be able to play for the Buckeyes. That would be awesome.

Speaker 1 Greg Odin was playing for the Buckeyes.

Speaker 1 The T-Wolves.

Speaker 1 I now am rooting for the T-Wolves to go to the finals just to see if we can get crazy protesters at every NBA city in America. That was crazy.
Because we had another one.

Speaker 1 We had someone who, a woman who chained herself

Speaker 1 to the basket and stopped the game.

Speaker 1 Same deal, protesting Glenn Taylor, killing a lot. Like, this guy, this guy,

Speaker 1 do you think these women that are like... gluing themselves and chaining themselves to the basketball, to the hoop, were they relatives of the chickens?

Speaker 2 They're very upset. I think they're pro-bird flu.

Speaker 1 It's crazy.

Speaker 2 That's what it sounds like to me. It sounds like what they want, instead of exterminating the chickens that are sick, is for the chickens to go on and infect other chickens.

Speaker 2 They think that not enough birds got killed.

Speaker 1 Like, I would probably,

Speaker 1 if Glenn Taylor killed a family member of mine, I might glue myself to the baseline once. I don't know if I'd go to game two.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 2 Like, it's very Minnesota nice the way that they're doing it.

Speaker 1 They're like, we're going to cause a scene, but real briefly we don't want to really interrupt the game the chain kind of upped it because the chain they had a little trouble getting the chain off so the chain kind of upped the deal i don't know i'm excited to see what they have planned next i don't know i don't know where you go from here now are they are they working together or is this just like a copycat i don't know and they also like they're gonna blow through their budget yeah i don't like as they as if the t-wolves progress It's going to be tough to keep this budget going where they're buying like the best seats in an NBA playoff game just to get kicked out.

Speaker 2 So I'll say this. The first one was funny.
The second one, also funny, because she looked like Janet from the Sopranos. The third one.

Speaker 2 Janet, excuse me. Hank, she's the one that got into a fight with Tony at the dinner table because she used to blow a bunch of guys.
Yeah, sister.

Speaker 2 But if it happens a third time, I actually think I'm going to start to... be sympathetic to their cause.
I'm going to be like, yeah, that guy did kill a lot of birds. That's how it works for me.

Speaker 2 If you do it three times, then I'm like, wait, something's up here. They must have a very good point.

Speaker 1 Oh, see, I'm going to go reverse. I'm going to be like, Glenn Taylor, you should just execute a bird live before the game.

Speaker 1 Like, at center court, if he just comes out and just chops off a bird's head and be like, what do you want me? What do you want from me now, bitches?

Speaker 2 I shudder to think what they'll do at Commanders games with Carson Wentz as a quarterback if they're anti-bird murder. Yes.

Speaker 1 There we go. We'll link that in.
Yeah. Because he hunted all those ducks.
Yep, exactly.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that game was awesome. Anthony Edwards is fucking awesome.
I don't know, like, this is, we shouldn't overreact to every

Speaker 1 game one

Speaker 1 because I do think the Grizzlies will have an answer for this, but it was just really fun watching everyone make the jokes about the Timber Bulls winning the championship and thinking there was going to be a letdown spot, and there was no letdown spot.

Speaker 2 No, I mean, the Timber Bulls, they've got, I mean, they've got momentum. I'm a believer in momentum, and I am going to do the thing where we take game one and blow out our proportion.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and Carl Anthony Towns, I, you know, he's so the other note of this game was ESPN's audio went absolutely haywire.

Speaker 1 And, like, I, thought my I thought my TV was blowing up and then they had Stephen A. Smith and Greene call the game for like half a quarter from the Brooklyn studios and Stephen A.

Speaker 1 Smith was just bashing Carl Anthony Town.

Speaker 1 He literally was just doing first take for a live game.

Speaker 1 But Carl Anthony Towns, something about him, he just like when he fucks up, at least like twice a game, he'll throw a pass into like the fifth row and he'll look around at everyone like it was someone else's fault but him.

Speaker 1 You're You're like, what's going on?

Speaker 2 He also has a great perplexed face.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He's really good at it.
He looks around like that.

Speaker 2 Remember when Russell Westbrook missed that three this year and he was like looking around like I can't believe that's a yeah, that's an NBA shot.

Speaker 1 It's like a tennis player looking at their racket like is there a hole in this?

Speaker 2 He's super good at looking confused.

Speaker 2 I love the fact that ESPN, anytime they need something, they literally have like a Stephen A. Smith button that they can smash at any given time because he's paid, what, like 10 million a year?

Speaker 2 That means he's just on retainer.

Speaker 1 Yeah, him and greenie.

Speaker 2 If there's a microphone that needs to be screamed in 24 hours a day you you put up the bat signal and he comes in swooping in and i i fucking love it and having him match up with greeny is so funny because greeny knows who the alpha yeah oh yeah well he's i don't is there ever ever been a situation where greeny's been the alpha no greeny is the alpha that's what i'm saying like greeny knows that he's calling the shots stephen a smith is lucky enough to be around him greeny and stephen a smith are like heart surgeons where they just have a beeper at all times they're like oh we need you in the studio we got to have you talk we got to have you fill an hour real quick at like 11 p.m.

Speaker 2 Well, for Stephen A. Smith, it's very easy.
It's like plug and play. If he doesn't know anything about what's going on, he'll just like pick one guy and be like, that guy's a disgrace.

Speaker 2 And then he'll just talk for like 30 minutes about what a disgrace he is. It was great.

Speaker 1 It was great to link him. And then we had the Sixers, who I feel like

Speaker 1 most disrespected teams going into the first round, heat number one by far.

Speaker 1 No one's talked about the heat, myself included. I'll put my hand up on that.

Speaker 3 Rest in peace to cows, by the way, we didn't cover that. Oh, yeah.
I do think they would have beat the heat.

Speaker 2 They definitely would have beaten the heat.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they definitely would have beat the heat. And then Sixers, I feel like, are sneaky second because everyone was like, oh, if you're looking for an upset, it's like the upset we do in the bracket.

Speaker 1 Oh, if you're looking for an upset, it's the Raptors over the Sixers. And then Tyrese Maxie happened, which I have a couple stats that are pretty awesome.

Speaker 1 Only a Philly, I think it was like NBC Philly, wrote the article. And the first, it was like, look at these crazy stats from Tyrese Maxey.
So he scored 38 points.

Speaker 1 He's the third youngest guy to do that in an NBA playoff game, Magic and LeBron being the two youngest. So that's pretty good company.

Speaker 1 But the big stat they had that led the whole article was Tyrese Maxey scored 21 points in the third quarter, 12 minutes of play, which is more points than the last 100 minutes of Ben Simmons in the playoffs as a sixer, 19.

Speaker 1 I just loved it. He was going back to it.
Just like, this guy's awesome. Let's bring up Ben Simmons.
He's going back to it. I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 I mean, it does serve to highlight just how ridiculous Ben Simmons was at the end of his tenure in Philly.

Speaker 2 Like, you lose track of what a circus it was, especially because of the way the last year has played out since then. But yeah, I mean, it does, that's a great use of perspective.

Speaker 1 Yes, and it also was one of those games that, like, the Sixers won it, and I don't think, I mean, Embiid wasn't like

Speaker 1 full-on unbeat. Like, he wasn't Hulk Mbeat.

Speaker 2 He had like 17, 18 points.

Speaker 1 He had 19 points, but he was not great shooting.

Speaker 1 And so that you got to feel pretty confident if you're a Sixers fan watching that being like, oh, yeah, Hardin and Embiid weren't like, it wasn't like your stars beat him.

Speaker 2 Harder's Maxi beat them. Harden wasn't bad, though, but I can't figure out if that's a case of having the lowest possible expectations for James Harden and him barely surpassing those.

Speaker 2 I think he went like four for seven from three. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 2 he made a few outside shots, which he hasn't been doing recently.

Speaker 2 And also maybe it was just Rosillo poisoned our brains and telling us, it'd be very funny if James Harden just had like the playoffs from hell this year and just dominated everything.

Speaker 1 He got the MVP over Chris Paul in the finals. Maybe even, maybe

Speaker 2 I'm rooting for that now.

Speaker 1 Maybe even let Chris Paul win the finals and have Harden win the MVP in a losing effort. That would be hilarious.
And you just have to tip your hat.

Speaker 1 Harden also showed up with one of the craziest jackets that I've ever seen that had, it had just two puppets attached to his jacket. And I guess it's something you could actually buy at Gucci.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think they just make it for James Harden. He's got the guy.
Yeah, he's got it. Yeah, but then they like put it on in the store.
So they're like, no, no, no. Everyone can wear this.

Speaker 2 I bet that there's a guy at Gucci that's like making stuff for James Harden, just doing it as a joke. Like, if I tell him that this is cool, he'll believe it.
It's probably that other Gucci.

Speaker 2 What is it? The Paolo Gucci? Yeah. The brother that got kicked out of the family that nobody likes? Yeah.
It's probably him.

Speaker 1 That's the guy that's making it. It looked like a costume where it's like, all right, I have a jacket that actually is a real jacket, and then I just have, like,

Speaker 1 I over-ordered bark box toys. Let me just throw a couple things on this.

Speaker 2 Yeah, staple Gumby to it and tell them it's cool. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then Saturday night, we were reminded that the Warriors are fucking awesome. Yep.
And Jordan Poole is really, really good.

Speaker 2 Warriors are back. When I said that, like, don't be surprised if this Nuggets team does something.

Speaker 1 Oh, oh, because I thought you also said surprise with the Warriors.

Speaker 2 No, no, the Warriors are my pick out of the West.

Speaker 2 They're my pick out of the West.

Speaker 2 The Nuggets were my don't be surprised if they do something in the playoffs, which is just, again, me saying making a pick without ever having to be accountable for it.

Speaker 2 But it does all hinge on the fact that they have two other star players that are out. And today I saw an article that Porter is thinking about coming back.

Speaker 2 But again, this has been like twice a week in Denver. If you need an article that needs clicks or needs attention, just be like, Porter's thinking about coming back this week.

Speaker 2 He's been considering coming back for about four months, three months now.

Speaker 2 I've just kind of accepted the fact that it's not going to happen.

Speaker 1 and the warriors do have the ability to flip the switch i'd officially like to can i switch permission to switch my pick to the warriors just become a warriors podcast is that okay i mean the suns are are beating the the pelicans pretty badly in the first quarter here is that okay well i do think

Speaker 2 so i'm my warriors bucks is my official pick i do think we could say that like people forgot about the warriors even though nobody really did it's right at that that stage of them kind of being talked about a little bit less that we can now hold the banner and be like we're the ones that never forgot about you guys And I wanted to, there was a big storyline because Steph came off the bench because he had been injured and everyone's like, look at this, Steph coming off the bench.

Speaker 1 And usually I'm cynical of these stories that get forced down our throat. But I was like, you know what? That actually is very cool.
Yeah. LeBron would never come off the bench.
No, he wouldn't.

Speaker 1 How many minutes did he have? He had a shitload of minutes.

Speaker 2 He had a shitload of minutes.

Speaker 1 But Jordan Poole was able to, like, Jordan Poole had an incredible game. And a lot of that because he started and was.

Speaker 1 I'm just going to give Steph the credit that he deserves in that moment because it is like one of those stories that we probably made too much of a deal about it.

Speaker 1 But Steph Curry, if he wanted to start with one leg, he would start with one leg. You know what I mean? Like he calls the shots.

Speaker 2 So how does that work in terms of six-man of the year voting? If Steph Curry were to come off the bat, I don't think he's

Speaker 2 sit out the first two minutes of the game and then play for the rest of the game, essentially, could you be six-man or is it the guy with the six-most minutes?

Speaker 1 I don't think you can be six-man just for the playoffs.

Speaker 2 No, no, I know. I'm saying like in the middle of the day.

Speaker 1 In the regular season. Yes.
That's what I'm saying. Well, Manu used to have starter minutes, but he would come off the bench.

Speaker 1 Speaking of the awards, there's no bigger loser than the guy who's still arguing MVP awards as if the votes haven't been cast. Like, going, game one, oh, and Biet had a bad game one.

Speaker 1 He shouldn't be the MVP. It's like, dude, it's over.
Yeah. It's already been done.

Speaker 2 Do you think that there's an element of the Sixers playing their games in Canada that makes us forget about their performance more. I always feel that way.

Speaker 2 Like, if it's against the Raptors for whatever reason, I'm always more likely to gloss over in the early rounds.

Speaker 2 I don't pay as much attention to that.

Speaker 2 I don't know. That probably says a lot of my internalized xenophobia.
But I'm like, yeah, the Sixers. Here's the best thing I can say about what the Sixers did.
They handled their business.

Speaker 1 Here's what I think you're getting at, and I agree with this point, is that

Speaker 1 the Raptors really got screwed with Kawhi not coming back. Because teams that don't get to defend their titles, they don't last in your brain the same way.
Yeah, that was an awesome team.

Speaker 2 That Raptors team felt different.

Speaker 1 You want to feel old?

Speaker 2 No. You're going to tell me how time works?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's Riley Curry.

Speaker 2 No way.

Speaker 1 Are you serious? She's like a full-blown adult.

Speaker 1 They showed her in the game, and I was like, wait, what? Yeah. It was, I mean, that is how time works.

Speaker 1 Children become,

Speaker 1 you know, I don't know if she's a full teenager yet, but like, children get older. No, she she can't be Ozar Bridge.
Yeah, she can't be a teenager, yeah.

Speaker 1 But still, I mean, you remember when she was two.

Speaker 2 It's like a grown-up outfit.

Speaker 2 She's got like zippers and stuff. That's like a track suit.
That's not something a nine-year-old wears.

Speaker 1 But it's just, she has a podcast. No, I'm saying like

Speaker 3 we were podcasting when she was

Speaker 1 young. I mean, the Warriors in 2015, that's when she showed up on the stage and, you know, was ripping the curtains down.

Speaker 2 Well, she's a front runner. She only came out after wins, and she wouldn't be there to address the media after losses.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but the Warriors are good. And then, Jake, your heat, handle business.

Speaker 2 He's disrespected one seed in the history of basketball.

Speaker 1 I'd agree with you.

Speaker 2 And it's one thing, like, I think it was the Hawks a few years ago where people were like, God, they haven't been there before. These guys have been there before.

Speaker 2 So it's not like the pressure in the top seed should be scary.

Speaker 1 Disneyland. Bubble.

Speaker 1 Bubble. Oh, my God.
That was a little different. I mean, Jake.

Speaker 2 It was a little bit different.

Speaker 1 Jake, you're in a room full of LeBron haters. If we concede that the Heat have been there, then we also have to concede that LeBron wants to be there.

Speaker 2 Not necessarily that.

Speaker 2 Spolstra.

Speaker 1 Yes. Spolster has been there.
Spolstra has definitely been there. Haslam.
Been there.

Speaker 1 Kyle Lowry. Kyle Lowry.
Been there. Yes.

Speaker 2 Duncan Robinson, maybe the best basketball playing podcaster in the history of the medium.

Speaker 1 For real.

Speaker 1 He is putting it on for all, like, representation matters. And watching a podcaster do what he did today.

Speaker 2 I see him up there and I'm like, I can do that with J.J.

Speaker 1 Nevercott. That could be me.

Speaker 2 I believe that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 27 points.

Speaker 2 Until I saw him do that, I was, well, no, C.J. McCollum, probably the best basketball player.

Speaker 1 That's true. But seeing Duncan Robinson do it, it felt like I finally was like, oh, someday I can grow up and go eight for nine in an NBA playoff game from three.

Speaker 2 I love when he hits his sick, like, off-balance three-point shots. He's the best.

Speaker 2 I like watching him play when he's dialed in, but when he's not, it's very sad for podcasts. I don't claim him when he has an off-night.

Speaker 1 Also, PJ Tucker.

Speaker 1 That's when he podcasts too much. He podcasts.

Speaker 1 Oh, PJ Tucker's been there. Yeah, yeah.
Got it. That's true.
He's a dog. He's a defending champion.
He is a dog.

Speaker 1 That's absolutely a fact.

Speaker 1 One last thing about the Celtics Nets game, Hank, Tatum doing the look at my hand is the coolest thing ever.

Speaker 1 When he does an awesome play and he looks at his hand, I think that's one of the coolest celebrations that you can do.

Speaker 3 And his son, I mean, obviously I'm biased, but his son is cute as fuck, and he's in and around the team, and he's like the mascot for for the missionary.

Speaker 1 Deuce. Wow.
Deuce. Deuce? Deuce.

Speaker 2 Deuce Tatum.

Speaker 3 Like, he'll be on the sidelines, and Marcus Smart will be like, dude, Deuce Tatum. He's got in the ball, and he'll try and be like punching him and shit.

Speaker 1 Deuce Tatum's

Speaker 1 a character that Jean-Claude Van Damm played in like 1994.

Speaker 3 I'll send you these pictures. They're fucking badass.

Speaker 2 Roadhouse 2.

Speaker 1 Deuce Tatum. Wow.
Pain don't hurt.

Speaker 1 All right. That's.

Speaker 1 That is some Team of Destiny shit. Deuce Tatum.
Yeah. And then the Bulls totally gave away a game to the Bucs.

Speaker 2 You know what that was, though? I think we all forgot about game one Bucs being a thing.

Speaker 2 Because if you go back last year, I looked this up actually. If you look at what they did in the playoffs the last two years, I think they've lost all but one

Speaker 2 game ones. So I think

Speaker 2 they're one and six in game ones over the last two years. And when they lose, they usually get smoked.
So if you're going on historical context,

Speaker 2 this is the chance that you had to beat them.

Speaker 1 And the Bulls have a little game one. I can't remember if we did it twice.
I remember, obviously,

Speaker 1 one time when the Bulls went down to the Heat and beat them game one in the Eastern Conference final, and then the Heat gentleman swept them. So Bulls have some game one mojo.
But yeah,

Speaker 1 that was a game.

Speaker 1 My expectations are very low. I've seen some people being like, dude, you're being so down.

Speaker 1 I watched the Bulls. Anyone who's watched them has known that they have been one of the worst teams in the NBA, not just in the playoffs, the last two months.

Speaker 1 They They played a lot harder tonight than they have against good competition in the last two months. They just shot like shit, and a lot of that's Drew Holiday just being incredible at defense.

Speaker 1 But that did feel like a winnable game.

Speaker 2 There's not a lot that you can do against Giannis, though. But if you're not sure, you double team him, and then it's two passes away.

Speaker 1 But Vuch, DeMar DeRosen, and Zach Levine shot 21 for 71. You can't win like that.
No, not great. You can't win like that.

Speaker 1 So I just went in with very low expectations, and then the third quarter happened, and I was like, ooh,

Speaker 1 could we fight here? And then you lose that way. It feels like that was going to be one of our best shots in this series.
Yeah, for sure. Hank, did you want to do your embrace debate real quick?

Speaker 3 Yeah, we obviously talked about him a little bit earlier with the heat stuff, but LeBron has been live tweeting all the games in the NBA, and I was just sitting wondering, because on NBA on TNT, they kind of call him out.

Speaker 3 They goat him into coming on and stuff. And this is kind of the first time that he has not been in the playoffs at all.

Speaker 3 So my embrace debate was, will we see LeBron on the desk as like a panelist at any point during these playoffs?

Speaker 2 I don't think so.

Speaker 2 I really don't. I think that LeBron is.
Do they let you drink wine on the air? Yeah. I think he's chucking LeBron.
LeBron is actually becoming more relatable

Speaker 2 as he's doing this film

Speaker 2 because he's experienced exactly what we all are doing while we're watching these games, which is getting drunk and tweeting while watching it. So I think LeBron's like, hey, this kicks ass.

Speaker 1 So I was thinking about it. I actually think we could see it, but I'm, in a weird way, I think it might be ESPN, not TNT.

Speaker 1 Anything. Anything.
I think, because think about it.

Speaker 1 Greeny is the consummate. Like,

Speaker 1 you come on this show. I won't ask you a single hard question.

Speaker 2 Oh, no, Greene will. He'll have eight inches of LeBron tickling his uvula.
Stephen A.

Speaker 1 Smith has never been, like, Skip is the LeBron hater, not Stephen A. Smith.
Stephen A. Smith isn't a full-on LeBron hater.
I feel like that's a soft landing spot.

Speaker 1 He could even have magic come on with it. Like,

Speaker 1 I think that it would be more likely that it would be ESPN than TNT.

Speaker 2 They should actually let him do his own Manning Cast style thing from his house, just like him and his daughter drunk on a couch. Yep.
Just watching the games and talking about it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I would watch that. Yes, of course.
But yeah,

Speaker 1 he's trying to get in the mix. And I think the problem is he probably scheduled his

Speaker 1 month-long vacation for after the finals, never thinking he would even be in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 His family's probably never seen him in May, yeah.

Speaker 1 So, and like his kids are still in school, so he's got to sit there on his couch and just be like, all right, this sucks. But yeah, I would like to see him on ESPN, that'd be fun.

Speaker 2 I mean, I think even like the biggest LeBron haters would still watch, of course, because

Speaker 1 we would take

Speaker 1 ammo, yeah, and that would give you a full clip, it would be incredible. Uh, any other first round, first game, first-round notes?

Speaker 1 I, I do, I'm trying not to overreact to the first games, but it is very hard.

Speaker 3 I'm going to change your Warriors pick after one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I did. I did.
I won. Well, I don't know if you saw, but I put 67 units on that game, so I'm up 65.9 units on the playoffs.
That's pretty good. Yeah, no big deal.

Speaker 1 So I was very happy to watch them.

Speaker 2 I think that's a smart move, honestly. The Warriors, people forget they're still the Warriors.
Yeah, I think, Hank, you've forgotten that they're the Warriors.

Speaker 1 I made a pick to go to the finals. Yeah, that is true.
You're forgetting, though, Hank.

Speaker 2 You should welcome people onto the bandwagon. We're waking people up.

Speaker 1 I think I can change my pick this early because we haven't even completed the first game of the first round. And yeah, I want a big bet on them.

Speaker 2 Wait, does that mean I can rescind my wamping?

Speaker 1 No, the wamp bet is set in stone. Why are you feeling nervous about that? No, I was just curious.

Speaker 2 I didn't know how the retractions were for gameplay.

Speaker 1 The topics might be decent.

Speaker 1 I can't believe I got dragged into this. Oh, I can.

Speaker 2 I'm sorry for making you part of the team, James.

Speaker 1 Yeah, content, baby. Let's do it.
Dude,

Speaker 1 you think the AWLs want to see me, PFT, or Hank put a fucking horseshoe in? No way. Nope.
You doing it?

Speaker 1 That's asses. That's cleat.

Speaker 1 You'll be spinning. You'll be puking.
You'll be on the moon.

Speaker 2 I think you're going to puke in under three minutes if it happens.

Speaker 1 Anything for that? Mike comes.

Speaker 1 Mike?

Speaker 1 Come?

Speaker 1 Wow. Who knows?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, Hank. Jesus.
That was right. That was weird.
Really weird.

Speaker 1 That kind of ruined the vibe.

Speaker 1 Hank thinks that Jake will come. I don't think he gets that'll happen, Hank.

Speaker 2 I think a lot of things can happen.

Speaker 1 You've never done it before.

Speaker 1 That is true.

Speaker 2 I mean, Hank's been on a heater recently.

Speaker 2 Imagine if Jake just nutted.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's like, called it, cash those tickets.

Speaker 2 I don't think anybody's ever come from having an entire Wampus cat of dip in your mouth.

Speaker 1 Billy, what are you going to say?

Speaker 6 To specify it is a four-finger dip.

Speaker 1 So it's not the whole thing.

Speaker 2 You just did three fingers with your hand. This is four with the thumb.
All right, so three fingers and a thumb.

Speaker 6 Yes, that is the wampus cat grip of the dip. Okay.

Speaker 1 I love it.

Speaker 6 And I will be doing a wampus cat if it goes to game six or seven, just so there's a definite wampus gip.

Speaker 1 You just went on. Oh, nice.
That's actually a great team player.

Speaker 6 Because I will participate.

Speaker 1 No, that's huge.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so there will be a wampus cat.

Speaker 1 Because we didn't want, like,

Speaker 1 if we're doing a second take on the whole series, I think it's going seven. Like, I thought it was a great game.
I wanted to get back and forth, and

Speaker 1 it looks like it's going to be a game, a series that has like the makings of an all-time series just based on game one, which I said I wasn't going to do. So, I appreciate that, Billy.
Way to step up.

Speaker 1 Way to step up.

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Speaker 3 My host back of the week is Jordan Speeth.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah,

Speaker 3 big winner today. I was looking at him.
I thought it was his first win since 2017, but he actually won one last year. But still, there's a four-year gap, five-year, including this year.

Speaker 3 But won the RBC Heritage in a playoff. He's back.

Speaker 3 He seemed like he fell off a little bit. Sometimes with golfers, they are super, super hot.
And then once they fall off, they kind of never make it back.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they get mentally broken. Did you see what was up with his wife running up to him

Speaker 1 after he won?

Speaker 2 His wife was carrying their baby

Speaker 2 in one hand and sprinting down the fairway.

Speaker 3 Like LaShawn McCoy?

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, like carrying like a loaf of bread. And the baby was just like bouncing all over the place as she was sprinting down to him.
It was bad. It was terrible baby security.

Speaker 1 So I, as someone who carries a baby, you, you find like the grooves in the baby and you're able to carry him one-handed like that.

Speaker 2 You got to watch this clip, though.

Speaker 1 But I don't know.

Speaker 2 It looked like she was doing a drill and somebody was going to reach out and just slap that arm.

Speaker 1 I know if you just watched like security cam of me carrying my baby, you'd be like, oh, dude, that baby's about to fall. It's like, no, I got it.
No, you got to.

Speaker 2 No, no, because you know, three points of contact.

Speaker 1 I got that.

Speaker 2 She was hanging on to it like a, yeah, LaShawn McCoy is actually a great comparison as to her baby carrying technique.

Speaker 1 All right, that's your who's back? Yep. Any more?

Speaker 1 For who's back? Okay.

Speaker 1 I got two.

Speaker 3 I brought two to the

Speaker 3 bottom.

Speaker 6 I got five.

Speaker 1 I just. Billy, extra credit, Billy.

Speaker 2 I really, I actually did six, but I'm just going to do one

Speaker 2 so I can keep the show moving. My who's back of the week is staying hydrated.

Speaker 2 Specifically, Russell Wilson. Oh.
Staying hydrated. What were you thinking, Hank?

Speaker 3 Your neighbors? Oh, no, no. Did you go talk to your neighbors? No, I didn't.
I thought you were going to be a converted waterist.

Speaker 2 No, I might be a waterist. I might be a water guy now.
I've been drinking a lot of it recently. It's good stuff.
But no, it's Russell Wilson has a new house in Colorado, bought it for $25 million.

Speaker 2 Looks like a nice place from the outside until you look at the specifics of the house. It's four bedrooms and 12 bathrooms.

Speaker 2 He's got 12 bathrooms in his mansion with only four bedrooms.

Speaker 2 My only thought is because he's the big Nano Bubbles recovery water guy, he must stay so hydrated that he can't be more than like 100 feet away from a bathroom.

Speaker 1 I also, like, that's kind of sneaky genius. Because you, like, if you're, if you're that, if you're Russell Wilson, you don't want friends and family crashing.
You'd be like, I got four.

Speaker 1 How many, if you listed Russell Wilson's new house on Airbnb, what do you think it would say that you could sleep? Because you know how Airbnb will be like four bedrooms, it can sleep 25.

Speaker 2 It's probably nine because you got the master bedroom, then you've got

Speaker 2 a theater, then you've got a theater, but then you've got like two others, and then you got the lounge. You got the mother-in-law shed in the back for Future to stay in whenever he drops into town.

Speaker 1 There's no way, like, they could definitely sleep comfortably 20 people, but it's smart to be like, nope, sorry. Don't got any more bedrooms.

Speaker 1 Four bedrooms.

Speaker 2 That one's actually

Speaker 2 that was my film watching room.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we got a full court basketball, but we don't have enough bedrooms.

Speaker 2 This is my massage room. Yeah.

Speaker 2 uh not for sleeping it does have a bed but it's not for sleeping but yeah nine car garage four beds and and 12 bathrooms and maybe the most uh irritating part of his entire house is the basketball court that he has inside yeah it's like a squash court that was converted into basketball why not go full so it's got yeah it's a half court basketball but not just half court but it's also not even wide enough to have anything it's basically the key you can practice foul shots in there you can play knockout in there but you can't actually play which is fine like if one of us had that, that'd be the coolest thing ever.

Speaker 1 But if you're Russell Wilson and you buy a house for $25 million, I want the full court. Yep.
I want a full court. I want not only,

Speaker 1 I'll go one more. I want the full court, but I want it to be like middle school where you can drop fucking rims all around.
You can play with, you know, there's six rims.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you got six of them, two of them you can lower down to eight feet if you want to do a dunking contest.

Speaker 1 Yeah, give that. Play, play, you could have a fucking AAU camp in your, in your house.

Speaker 2 I would get a giant scoreboard that's suspended from the ceiling that I would keep track of during my own pickup games that I've had there.

Speaker 2 I've had the horn, the buzzer, and have like a sound system.

Speaker 1 That's sweet. Denny Hamlin has that.
That's how you got to do it. Did you see, by the way, that guy, it went viral.
He has a Jumbotron in his living room. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Total dudes rock momentum.

Speaker 1 That's awesome. Like, no, that has to be the most annoying thing to have, like...
Pretty much every day of the year. Yeah.
Except maybe Sundays. And then you're like, this is sick.

Speaker 1 And then your friends leave after watching games there and something like, damn, that jumbotron was, like, did they really have to play pump up the jam during during the third day?

Speaker 2 No, it's an awesome thing for like friends to come over and experience, but then you have to live in a, in a room that has a jumbotron hanging from the ceiling when you're just trying to watch.

Speaker 1 And you're like, why is my...

Speaker 1 Yeah, why is my

Speaker 1 fucking electric bill similar to growing like, you know, seven acres of weed? What the fuck is going on?

Speaker 2 It is sick, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was Deuge Rock. All right, Mai Who's back, so I have two.
One is Ichiro.

Speaker 1 He threw some gap. I love Ichiro because Ichiro is the quintessential.

Speaker 1 I think most athletes are like this, but no one embodies it quite like Ichiro, where, you know, how it's like, you don't retire, the game retires you.

Speaker 1 Ichiro, I think, like, I think he went and played in Japan after he retired, and he came, well, he came back, and then he went back and played in Japan.

Speaker 1 He wants to just play baseball till he's 100 years old.

Speaker 2 It reminded me so much when he went out of the mound how awesome those like early 2000 Mariners jerseys were. Yeah.
So clean. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And he came out full, full kit, which would normally be like, what the hell is this guy doing? But then he threw gas 93 miles an hour. Oh, they had the gun on him.
They had the gun on him.

Speaker 2 It looked like he caught the corner, maybe.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was throwing gas.

Speaker 1 And then my other, who's back, we haven't talked about him, but Baker Mayfield, I think we missed it in the mix of like all the playoffs starting, but saying that he would like to go to people's work and boo them.

Speaker 2 I say that's acceptable.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, and I would say that Baker, if like I was making $20 million a year, I wouldn't be bothered.
Yeah, well, probably not, but that's not both. I don't think so.

Speaker 2 Baker's never, he's always been bothered by everything. Yeah.
He should actually, he should take that out on Deshaun, Deshaun Watson, just boo him at practice. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Is he gonna, he's not like going to show up for workouts and stuff, right?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 2 That would be very awkward if he went into the season as like the backup quarterback on the Browns.

Speaker 1 Yeah, where is he going to go? I guess he's got to wait till the draft.

Speaker 3 Yeah. You never know.

Speaker 1 You never know. You never know.

Speaker 1 Best podcast what oh he was on you never know the you never know podcast with with Mike studd yeah who is not Mike Studd anymore right just Mike just Mike shout out Mike Studd just

Speaker 3 yeah just Mike just Mike you never know yes

Speaker 3 he's he's an OG I yeah we've known Mike forever the video of the I mean it was like they're like sitting on his couch and the video of just Mike's dog was like in the he was sleeping in the background like rolling around.

Speaker 3 So that's what everyone was like commenting on. So it was like first take, you're watching Baker Mayfield.
You just see his dog in the background.

Speaker 1 That's genius, but but dude's rock.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think his dog's nuts.

Speaker 1 It was like spread eagle on the couch behind it. Like Paul George.
Like Paul George, yeah.

Speaker 2 Baker just has his elbows in it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, how about Paul George's genius? I didn't even know they were testing for COVID anymore.

Speaker 2 Just Paul.

Speaker 2 Paul was driving on the way to the stadium. He was like, you know, I'm going to swing by CVS real quick.
Pick up a PCR just in case.

Speaker 1 Spit on this

Speaker 1 playoff PCR is what they're calling him. Yeah, just maybe a little red ink.
All right, I'm out.

Speaker 1 No one can make fun of me.

Speaker 1 I mean, he was just smart.

Speaker 2 I don't think he was going to do anything this postseason that would have even begun to change the narrative about him.

Speaker 1 He probably called us. Yeah, he probably called up Kawhi and was like, so.
And Kawhi's like, nah. He's like, okay, cool.
Yeah. I'm out.

Speaker 2 Kawhi's going to be back like February of next year. Yeah.
I think, and that's when playoff P will be like, okay, let's, this is the year. Kawhi.
It never felt like this was. You know what?

Speaker 2 I'm glad that he did that because I don't even think I could have mustered up the energy to enjoy a playoff P playoff L.

Speaker 1 It wouldn't have been the same.

Speaker 2 I had no expectations for him. There's no buzz around him.
Next year, when Kawhi comes back, then we'll be like, okay, this is a Clippers year. It'll be so much more satisfying to watch him lose.

Speaker 2 So thank you, Paul.

Speaker 1 God bless Kawhi Leonard because I think this is by design, but there's never been a superstar in any league that you just forget exists for like

Speaker 1 great lengths of time.

Speaker 1 And I think that he enjoys it that way.

Speaker 2 He's a slow healer.

Speaker 1 I think he'd rather us just forget he exists, but it's happened multiple times in the last five years. We're like, oh, Kawhi, yeah, yeah, what's he up to?

Speaker 2 I mean, the beauty about NBA contracts is that you can do stuff like this. Yes.
You can just straight up, like what Zion's doing. Yeah.
You just be like, you know what?

Speaker 2 I think I'm going to burn a year off my deal and not play.

Speaker 2 And everyone's like, well, shit, we didn't think about that when we did the CBA. I guess it got us by the balls.

Speaker 1 That Zion statement, I had some big-time Derrick Rose flashbacks when the exact wording was, Zion and his team disagree with the Pelicans' assessment of his injury.

Speaker 1 I was like, oh boy, that's never good. I mean, that's the start of the end.

Speaker 2 If you're Zion, strictly from like a business standpoint, it's a smart move what he's doing.

Speaker 2 You would rather that, if you have a player on your team that you draft first overall to be like the future of your organization, you'd want that ideally to be a guy that wants to play and wants to help his team win.

Speaker 2 But from a business standpoint, there's really nothing that's stopping him from just being like, no, I don't feel like coming back right now.

Speaker 1 Right. And then getting

Speaker 2 another year closer to a Big Max contract.

Speaker 1 I just imagine that conversation going down where, and I actually do side with the players more often than not because team doctors are employed by the teams and their literal job is to get players to play through anything.

Speaker 1 But just having like the idea that they're sitting down in a medical office and the doctor's like, so Zion, you're 100%.

Speaker 1 And he's just like, disagree. Was it

Speaker 1 not playing?

Speaker 2 Derek Rose's cousin? No, his brother. His brother.
Yeah, he's like, well,

Speaker 2 my brother doesn't think so.

Speaker 1 it was just not it was it was never like as overtly as this one was just straight up nope we disagree but it was just bad all around like he could come back but he doesn't want to come back but they don't feel he's healthy but he is who knows um I do I will say that I've heard like players interviews and we've talked to guys you know football players especially where they're like yeah team doctors will just lie just to get you back out there.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So

Speaker 1 I should walk that back. I do, I will side with Zion.
I can't believe it. Even though it's frustrating.

Speaker 2 I understand it.

Speaker 2 And even if he is doing a thing where he's just like, I want to get a year closer to getting a big contract and getting in a position where I'm being paid a shitload of money as opposed to just like a decent amount of money.

Speaker 2 I understand that from a business aspect. But also, if I was like a fan of the team,

Speaker 2 then I'd be like, God damn it, please play.

Speaker 2 I've been looking for it. I went out, I bought your jersey the day you got drafted.
This was something that I was very excited about, and now it's not happening.

Speaker 2 I would be disappointed if I was in that position.

Speaker 1 Exactly. From afar, I side with Zion in this, but I know that having lived through it, I was like, Derek, please fucking play.

Speaker 1 And Pelicans fans have every right to say.

Speaker 2 In theory, I think that this is a good thing when it happens to me.

Speaker 1 I'm very mad. I'm very much.

Speaker 2 It's like communism.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 I didn't sign up for this.

Speaker 1 All right, Billy.

Speaker 6 Someone has to do it. My who's back is Jesus.

Speaker 1 He can't do that.

Speaker 1 Good point.

Speaker 1 Someone did that.

Speaker 1 I'm mad that you took off your Easter shirt. You look so handsome.

Speaker 6 I was stunting. Billy,

Speaker 6 Easter.

Speaker 2 Billy, you got an Easter haircut. Excuse me.
You dyed the tips invisible. Tips, Easter, Invisible.

Speaker 2 You shaved for Jesus.

Speaker 1 You get any cash? You get any presents? No. You get any chocolate?

Speaker 6 I'm part of the... I'm in the time of my life where there's no little kids in my family yet.

Speaker 6 So all the holidays kind of don't have a childish vibe anymore.

Speaker 1 You don't have a kid. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. You guys hurt fucking.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Got to work on that. Anyway.

Speaker 1 You'd be a good dad, Billy. I'd be hyped to be.

Speaker 1 Not yet. No, but you would be a good dad.
I'm saying that right now. I appreciate that.
Yeah. I think Whitey's a great dad.

Speaker 2 Whitey's a very well-behaved dog. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You got a good dad.

Speaker 2 I did hang out with Whitey a little bit this weekend, and you can tell a lot about a person from how their dog behaves.

Speaker 2 And Whitey is just like this little tiny meathead that just runs around, not really making any sense with what he's doing. It's perfect in cat.
Very well-behaved, though. Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's basically like Billy.

Speaker 6 So, my other who's backs are football-ish.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 6 Football's kind of back.

Speaker 1 USFL. Yeah, Jeff Fisher.
Looked awesome. Back.
He looks like in shape.

Speaker 1 He was just looking good. That's the extent of the USFL coverage I had was

Speaker 1 I just saw Jeff Fisher. I was like, that's cool.
Oh, and Paxton Lynch fucked that guy. Yeah, Paxton Lynch.

Speaker 6 So he had a pick and a fumble after coming back in.

Speaker 2 And there were bad picks and bad fumbles, too.

Speaker 6 I know you still hate him for that Memphis bowl game.

Speaker 2 Most importantly, though, Kyle Sloeder finally started in a regular season professional game this weekend. And he won.
Nice.

Speaker 2 So I actually had a future down on whatever the team, New Orleans Breakers, I think.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 2 I don't know. There's like a Bandits that's in there somewhere.

Speaker 2 But there's it's very funny to see like these teams that no one's ever seen play before, and then they have odds as to who's going to win the regular season championship.

Speaker 2 It's like, how does anybody have any idea what's going to happen?

Speaker 1 And is this season even going to make it to the end?

Speaker 1 I just know that there was a moment I put it, I saw Jeff Fisher pop up on my timeline, so I put it on one of my TVs, and it was halftime, and it was Jeff Fisher and Todd Haley, and I was like, oh, this is sick, and then I still didn't watch.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So I've just, I,

Speaker 1 I love football, but spring football just doesn't. I watch, I actually, you want to know what's sick? I actually watched some spring football games, and I wouldn't watch the USFL.

Speaker 1 Like, I watched a little bit of Georgia's spring football game. I watched a little bit of Ohio State's.
Shout out Vandy that can't even get a win in their spring football game. They tied.

Speaker 1 How bad is that? They tied

Speaker 1 32-32.

Speaker 1 Like, you can't even get a win in your spring football game.

Speaker 2 The kicking game is awful in the USFL. Misfield goes left and right.

Speaker 6 One of the kickers was Zach Alphanax's cousin.

Speaker 6 Yeah. Made sure to say that.
Also in other non-NFL football news.

Speaker 1 That definitely was brought up in like some big meeting. We were like, who do we got? Well, we got Zach Galfanax's cousin.

Speaker 2 That's going to do real well on social clip.

Speaker 6 Terrell Owens scored a touchdown in the fan-controlled football line.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes.
I saw that as well. You know,

Speaker 1 at the end of the game, garbage time.

Speaker 6 Also, guess who else is back? Swedish House Mafia just dropped an album on Friday. First album in 10 years.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 6 Swedish House Mafia might be not as big of a deal in your life as it was in mine, but Swedish House Mafia is pretty awesome.

Speaker 1 Billy, 10 years ago, I was way more in... drinking age than you.

Speaker 6 Yeah, but I was

Speaker 6 at middle school dances listening to swedish

Speaker 6 yeah absolutely what's what's the biggest impact swedish house mafia has had on your life greyhound the song okay cardio okay nice yeah if you want to like get through a run listen to greyhound by swedish house mafia i'm gonna check i'm gonna check it out i'm gonna do it love it then my last who's back is bigfoot there's been pictures of a bigfoot sighting i've tracked it down a lot of states are claiming that the bigfoot was seen in their state but i've tracked it down to oio there was some bama people claiming that they found them in bama but i know that this is like getting shared as misinformation.

Speaker 6 There definitely is pictures of what looks like a Bigfoot, but I'm not sure exactly where the Bigfoot was seen.

Speaker 2 But you just said Hotfoot, Billy.

Speaker 1 Wait, you just said officially Ohio? So that's

Speaker 1 a Big Ten title. Yeah, that was the first post at Ohio.
Billy and the banner.

Speaker 2 Billy's like, there's a lot of misinformation out there, but I just wanted to correct it and let you know that Bigfoot is currently in Ohio.

Speaker 1 Well, it's a Sasquatch.

Speaker 6 It looked like a full-ground Sasquatch.

Speaker 1 How tall?

Speaker 6 I'd probably say six, six to seven feet.

Speaker 1 What do you think they eat?

Speaker 6 I think they eat vegetation. I think they're huge, maybe a little omnivorous diet, but mostly heavy greens.
That's how gorillas get their mass. Probably some sort of gigantopithecus.

Speaker 2 Why would they choose Ohio?

Speaker 6 I feel like there's tons of greenery.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 2 Okay. Good highway system.

Speaker 1 Good enough for me. Yeah.
Yep.

Speaker 6 Might be a Buckeyes fan.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Anyway, those are my who's backs.

Speaker 1 Thank you. All right.

Speaker 2 Good job, Bill.

Speaker 2 My who's back of the week is respect.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 2 In the name of of walking someone with the bases loaded.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 Corey Seeger intentionally walked with the bases loaded. The Rangers still won the game.

Speaker 1 Mike Trout's ranger. Excuse me, D.

Speaker 1 The Angels. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Mike Trout was like, why are we doing this?

Speaker 1 It was also like the third inning. Yeah.

Speaker 2 This isn't Barry Bonds.

Speaker 1 Bottom of the fourth in a 15th. 42 game.
One out.

Speaker 2 There was also what I think is the most electric call in sports, the walk-off walk.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 That happened in the Orioles game, right? It was Orioles, Yankees. Yankees.

Speaker 1 I remember managed to get tossed after the game was over. I heard John Sterling's call on that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, strike three.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's an easy one.
I love a walker. We're going extras.

Speaker 2 People, like the way that the stadium reacts and the players on the field, like jumping up in the air, sprinting out onto the field after a walk.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Amazing. And then the umpire always sticks around to make sure he touches on plate.
Yep.

Speaker 1 Attention to detail. Yep, you have to.
The umpire in that spot is similar to the ref counting threes in the three-point contest. But yeah, this is a crazy, crazy incident here.

Speaker 1 I really want to get John Sterling's call. Damn.

Speaker 1 Damn. Can you find it for me? I can look for it, yeah.
Yeah. He probably was so confused.
Like, how can the game end on a walk?

Speaker 1 All right, let's get to speaking of baseball. Let's get to Jake Harry had an awesome interview,

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest,

Speaker 1 one of my favorite baseball players of all time. He is a world champion.
He's a Cy Young winner. It is Jake Arietta.
Jake,

Speaker 1 thank you for joining us. And I truly mean that.
I was, we can get into like my Chris Farley, Paul Paul McCartney type of questions later.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Because I went through, I went down memory lane before this.

Speaker 1 And yeah, it is like it's going to be Chris Farley, Paul McCartney at some point. But good to see you.
Let's let's start with this. So you are not pitching right now.

Speaker 1 Are you, do you want to announce your retirement? Are you officially retired?

Speaker 8 Well, I haven't signed the papers, man, but I'm. I'm done.
You know,

Speaker 8 it's time for me to step away from the game.

Speaker 8 At some point, the uniform goes to somebody else, and it's just my time, really. You know, what's funny too is Carl texts me and we're kind of talking a little bit,

Speaker 8 throwing some ideas around for the future. And I go, man, hey, I just signed with the Tokyo Giants.
And

Speaker 8 I get radio silence from him. And so I text him a few days later and I go, man, I was just fucking with you.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 8 everything's good. And then also

Speaker 8 a team in Mexico, I don't remember the name, but they sent me an email and a bunch of texts like, hey, we'd love to have you while you're looking for a job.

Speaker 8 You know, we've got these guys on the roster. I'm like, dude, I'm not going to Mexico unless I'm drinking piña coladas.

Speaker 1 I'm not,

Speaker 8 you know, it is what it is. So, yeah, man,

Speaker 8 I'm done.

Speaker 1 Okay, so obviously last year didn't go great.

Speaker 1 We can address that real quick.

Speaker 1 I'm very curious. I was happy that you're back with the Cubs.
Like I said, you're one of my favorite baseball players of all time.

Speaker 1 How was it, though, with David Ross as your manager last year, who you played with, and then having to have that difficult conversation like, hey,

Speaker 1 this might be over?

Speaker 8 Yeah, you know, having David as a manager was great. Look,

Speaker 8 I don't know if there's anybody else that I'd rather play for.

Speaker 8 The field general goes out with a home run and his last at bat. in the World Series, right? Like,

Speaker 8 he's my guy. He's one of my guys.
So regardless of what has to happen behind the scenes with my performance or where the team stands, like that, that's just part.

Speaker 8 That's just part of the job description, right? It's a difficult, I mean,

Speaker 8 we had some emotional moments, right? Like

Speaker 8 I was at a point where I was doing everything I possibly could to make things work. And, you know, unfortunately, and I came to this realization

Speaker 8 around the 19th season,

Speaker 8 towards the end of the 19th season, that, man, look, my body feels amazing, but

Speaker 8 the old whip, it's just, it doesn't rotate the way it used to.

Speaker 8 And whether I like it or not, that's just kind of where things were going, you know, and it got to a point where I just couldn't feel my arm in space at release.

Speaker 8 And it was most dramatic on my curveball and my changeup, right? Like I was hitting guys with changeups.

Speaker 8 And those are two pitches where I could throw whatever I wanted, right? Velocity was not the issue. I was still, you know, 91, 94.

Speaker 8 i could not physically feel where where my arm was at at release you know and

Speaker 8 trying to trying to keep it going trying to provide for for the organization and for a fan base and for you know for my teammates you know and

Speaker 8 doing what i did in chicago before like it sucked to be in that position you know to go from

Speaker 8 warming up before games and hearing the the fans in the stands going nuts and kind of knowing that I was going to dominate.

Speaker 8 and then last year it's like oh hopefully it gets to the third inning right so it it sucked it did suck but but it is what it is there's no there's no script that you that you can like look at and say this is how it's gonna how it's gonna play itself out it just it it happened that way unfortunately um but you know we're we're here now it's it's all good i don't regret anything you know uh chicago is my city it always will be um

Speaker 8 but yeah would it would i have liked it to go a little bit better sure of course. I would have liked to see it through last year with the boys all year.
But hey, man, I had a seven.

Speaker 8 So what are you going to do?

Speaker 8 You know,

Speaker 8 it's the way it goes. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And at your best, you were, I mean, you were filthy. Actually, we always have this debate on the show when we talk about baseball pitching.
Is it better to be filthy, dirty, or nasty?

Speaker 2 And which one were you?

Speaker 8 I mean, I was all those.

Speaker 1 I was all, I was all those, man.

Speaker 8 You know,

Speaker 8 I just really, I really was for a while there. And especially that second half in

Speaker 8 15.

Speaker 8 I was, I just did a podcast and I was talking about how you go from one start to the next and like I would forget the one before because it's, it's over, right?

Speaker 8 Like I was so focused on not the numbers, but just like getting 27 outs. Like that was literally what I thought every time I took the mount is I'm getting 27 outs.
And

Speaker 8 everything clicked. And I mean, the stuff was always there, right? Like when I was in Baltimore, I was 93, 98 with all the movement, just without the command, right?

Speaker 8 So being able to like kind of put it all together,

Speaker 8 having the mountain presence, the demeanor,

Speaker 8 the

Speaker 8 filthy stuff, the dirty stuff, the nasty stuff, and then also the command of it, right? It just all kind of clicked. And, you know, for three or four years there.

Speaker 8 You know, things went pretty well.

Speaker 2 Hey, I don't know that much about you personally, but from what I've gathered watching you pitch, you seem like a guy that um on game day you're a psycho you turn into an absolute like you know like max scherzer kind of has that vibe where um you know when it's not his day to pitch he's the nicest guy people hang out with him shoot the whatever on game day absolutely dialed in uh would you is that a fair way to describe you yeah i think you know once it got to about an hour before the game i wasn't really the easiest guy to talk to and

Speaker 8 It wasn't because, you know, I didn't like you or I didn't want to have conversation. Like these were in, right? AirPods were in or headphones were on.

Speaker 8 And I was just going through my routine. And

Speaker 8 like, I just wanted to beat you so bad that like I, I didn't have time to even say hi to you, right? Like,

Speaker 8 and from the outside looking in, I talk to guys about this all the time. Like when we, they would play against me, like, oh, like, you seem like a dick or like, you're just not, you're not a nice guy.

Speaker 8 Like you said with Max, couldn't be further from the truth. Love Love Max, right?

Speaker 8 But like there's something about those, the highest level of competitors that whether you're pitching against somebody you don't know or your best friend, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 8 Like I'm doing anything in my power to beat you. And then afterwards, hey, let's, we'll grab a beer.
That's like whatever, however it plays itself out.

Speaker 8 But there's a place that certain guys go to to kind of dial everything in, maintain that focus from start to finish, because I was, I was guilty of this early in my career,

Speaker 8 having pretty good focus, but having that lapse and

Speaker 8 concentration, even if it was briefly, right? Just for a brief moment, next thing you know, you give up four runs, right? And that's, that's a,

Speaker 8 you know,

Speaker 8 that's giving credit to the opponent, right? They make a lot of money too. They're really good.

Speaker 8 So if you have that lapse and focus, even for a little bit of time, you risk getting your ass kicked, right? So that's, that's kind of why I was always dialed in the way I was.

Speaker 1 So, between the, you know, those Cubs teams, when it was you, Lester, and there was also a year or two when, when Lackey was on the team, who was who was most like, don't fuck with that guy before a start?

Speaker 1 Because I would actually, as, as psycho as you've seen before a start, I'd still probably put my money on John Lackey because he's just a scary dude.

Speaker 1 But those are three dudes that you don't want to fuck with before they, while they're on the mound and also before they're on the mound.

Speaker 8 Man, that's, it's funny because

Speaker 8 you're you're you're spot on with with lack yeah but i mean it couldn't be further from the truth like if you if you actually hang around him he's the biggest goddamn teddy bear on the planet right uh i i i mess with him all the time and and less lester the same way but on game day

Speaker 8 you're you're right though like in and lackey would always say this he's like i wasn't good enough to not go to that place right he's like i didn't have the 97 to 100, right?

Speaker 8 I like, I was just, he's like, I'm a normal white guy with decent stuff and I throw strikes. So I had to be that like asshole kind of

Speaker 8 vibe, right, on game day. But I mean, Lester had a little bit of that in him too, right?

Speaker 8 Like if he, if he had a rough, rough inning or something like that, you didn't want to be in the way as he's coming down the steps.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
What about like the umpire interactions that you guys would have? Because that was another thing with Lackey.

Speaker 1 I always thought that he would, he would have certain games where he would like almost bully the ump to be like hey this is what you're gonna call would you would you feel like you'd be able to do that like once you establish established yourself as a premier pitcher did you think that maybe the umps gave you more respect or you know explain things better in between innings i think lackey had the shortest leash with umpires Lester was probably two.

Speaker 8 I was three.

Speaker 8 I gave, I would typically give the umpire like two or three before i started chirping at all yeah but i i wouldn't say anything and then when i would i would like scream at them

Speaker 8 like you know just say hey like i've given you three or four like you need to figure it out you know and and when you would do that you would notice that the umpires would typically let that slide right because they know when they they miss some pitches right like if the guy i understand if the guy's setting up a foot off the plate you hit the glove like that's a ball right but if i'm if i'm in the the zone, I'm hitting the glove repetitively and you keep missing the same pitch, then I have to say something, right?

Speaker 8 And it's,

Speaker 8 it's not to be disrespectful. It's like, hey, I'm, I'm working my ass off out here.
This is not easy. Like if I execute in the strike zone, you got to raise the right hand.

Speaker 8 Like that's, that's kind of what it came down to. I mean, John would.
John would, I mean, from the get-go, right?

Speaker 8 And I think he, he had several of these moments, but he's like, you know, if you miss, you can't miss the first pitch of the game as the umpire.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 8 where are you at? You know what I mean? Like, first pitch of the game, you're going to ball me on a ball down away.

Speaker 8 So lackey, shortest leash, Lester, second. Me, I think I gave him a little bit more leeway.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I used to love watching Lester pitch.

Speaker 2 It always boggled my mind, but it was also kind of funny to watch from an outside perspective when he would try to throw the ball to first base, whether it was on like a comebacker to the pitcher or if it was a pickoff attempt.

Speaker 8 I have to assume that you guys, you know like spring training you work on that sort of thing would he be able to do it in spring training man he would like he would go out there you know we would say we'd stretch at 8 30 9 o'clock he'd go out there with one of our infield guys or one of the pitching coaches and i mean even rizzo would go out there with him bucket of balls work on throwing the ball to first base um

Speaker 8 Just one of those things, man. He did not like throwing the ball over there.

Speaker 8 And I'll kind of equate it to like me trying to throw BP to my son's team like last last year and the year before when they're like just starting to be able to,

Speaker 8 you know, hit a little bit, right? But I can't throw slow.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 it's the same thing.

Speaker 8 Like, dude, I, this real quick story, my son's last game of coach pitch, we lost because I struck five guys out and I hit three.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 because like

Speaker 8 trying to, and you know what?

Speaker 8 And the parents on the other team are like, who is this guy?

Speaker 8 Why are you letting this coach throw?

Speaker 8 But it's one of those deals where it's just, we're not used to lobbing the ball, right? And so

Speaker 1 it's just one of those things. Go back to the little league thing.

Speaker 2 Like, you're only pitching to your son's team.

Speaker 1 Just to the son's team.

Speaker 2 Then the dad of the opposing team or whatever is a guy that probably didn't win a Cy Young.

Speaker 8 No, I don't think so.

Speaker 1 Was there any of the five strikeouts that felt good?

Speaker 1 Because I feel like there's probably one kid that you were like, I don't don't really like you know like that felt good like that I put that pitch perfect that that was a good strikeout

Speaker 8 100% now that you mention it it wasn't even it wasn't even necessarily where the pitch was just maybe the kid was like a little shit you know so like

Speaker 8 so you you you get you get five pitches right so um

Speaker 8 whatever whatever the result is like okay all right um

Speaker 8 Okay, that's three pitches. I get two more.
Jesus, throw one of these down the middle so the kid can hit it. No, I missed.
Okay, this this is the last pitch. This is a lot of pressure.

Speaker 8 There's a lot of people watching.

Speaker 3 And I hit him. Like, oh, my God.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 8 Well, you know what? That's it. And when you get hit, you don't get to go to first.
Like, you just go back to the dugout. So it's even, it's even worse.

Speaker 1 That's so fucking funny. You know,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 8 So like,

Speaker 8 and look,

Speaker 8 Loveless Death,

Speaker 8 one of my guys. I don't understand why more people didn't steal off of him.

Speaker 1 I know. I mean, kind of like out of respect.

Speaker 2 Sometimes they would take like 10 15 foot leads knowing that there was nothing my favorite thing that he ever did you remember when he like threw his entire gloves to first base yeah yeah okay

Speaker 8 well the the ball was actually stuck in his web on that one yeah but then he did have a he picked a guy off at least once or twice where he just bounced it to first and then got i think it was against the cardinals it might have been like tommy family knock or something like that uh but yeah i mean

Speaker 8 guys sometimes have that i've seen it with people in the past that just physically can't do it unless they're throwing it at max effort.

Speaker 1 That's incredible. So, all right, so I'm going to do my Chris Farley thing because

Speaker 1 obviously I was a huge fan. I was at a bunch of these games because I had season tickets.
But

Speaker 1 for people who don't know the context here, Jake had a stretch, a five-month stretch from 2015 to 2016.

Speaker 1 I looked it back up and I was like, even looking it back up, even though I lived it, I was like, holy fuck. You went 26 and one in 28 starts.

Speaker 1 you had the only loss that you had was when the cubs got no hit for the first

Speaker 1 time in 50 years literally the only time yeah that jake area had lost a game was because the cubs got no hit in the first time in 50 years you had two no hitters in that stretch you had 162 and a third innings pitched 26 earned runs and 200 strikeouts i like that for my money i I remember like going to I the one memory I have that's very vivid is the 20th win that season in 2015 against the Brewers when you pitched nine innings shutout and it was like this feeling that every time you started it was a legitimate question will he get a no-hitter and I have to ask like did you was that just the coolest feeling in the world to get up there being like I know there is nothing these guys can do to touch me That was a mindset.

Speaker 8 And it was, yeah. I mean,

Speaker 8 the best part about that is what I was able to, you know, because we were progressing to becoming,

Speaker 8 you know, that World Series contending team, right? And when I got there in 13,

Speaker 8 you know, it was still just like a team full of, you know, some one-year deal guys, young players, the revolving door. 14, you know, I think I had like a 2-4, 2-5 ERA.
I had a real nice season.

Speaker 8 And then

Speaker 8 we had some draft picks that were ready in 15. We signed, we signed Lester.

Speaker 8 Then it was like, holy shit, like we got Schwarber, we had

Speaker 8 Addison Russell, we had Chris Bryant, we had Javi. It's like, damn, and they're all ready to go now.

Speaker 8 That's that's one of the rarities of it, you know, and you give Theo credit and the rest of the front office for drafting so damn well to get this group of guys ready at the same time, right? Crazy.

Speaker 8 But yeah, man, like I just, the delivery was

Speaker 8 on point.

Speaker 8 The the health, obviously, was, was paramount, right? Just being able to go out there every five days. And

Speaker 8 every time I went out there, it just led to more confidence.

Speaker 8 Like, each and every time I went out there, like you said, I expected to get 27 outs, or I expected to at least be in the eighth inning, right? With the team having the lead, you know, and

Speaker 8 yeah, it's, and I, a lot of it was a blur. And I think that's, that's because I was only focused on my next start, right? And then once that start was, was passed, it doesn't matter anymore.

Speaker 8 Now we got to do this, right? And I wanted, I wanted so bad to be a part of the group of guys that erased that 108-year, you know, drought. We all did, right? And all being.

Speaker 8 being able to provide something unique to that team.

Speaker 8 And this is something I mentioned in the podcast I just did.

Speaker 8 We had the same starting five all year. Like, how many times has that ever happened, right?

Speaker 8 Like, I'm sure it's probably happened maybe like decades ago, but can you remember back to another team that had the same starting five from the end of spring training to throughout the World Series?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 it was crazy. It was the whole thing, the ride.
And like you said, the 14 season led into the 15 season. I don't know if you remember this moment.

Speaker 1 I've told it before, but I was lucky enough to hang out with you guys during that. After you guys had clinched, we were at a country club, and it was before the Pirates wild card game.

Speaker 1 And I was like, I'm kind of nervous. And you looked me dead in the eye and you're like, we're winning that game.

Speaker 1 And then you went out and pitched nine-inning shutout. And that was like how locked in you were.
You looked me. I was so scared when you looked me in my eyes.

Speaker 1 I was like, you had a glass of wine and you're just like, we're winning that game. I'm not, we're winning that game.

Speaker 8 And so that's, that's a fun story, too, man. And it kind of goes a little bit, a little bit further.
So So we're on the flight to Pittsburgh. And,

Speaker 8 you know, there's guys that guys are nervous. I know I'm pitching the game.
And me and Dex start, you know, start talking. And,

Speaker 8 you know, he's like, it's a big game. And the nerves are kind of there.
And

Speaker 8 I told him, I said, give me one run.

Speaker 8 Right. That's all I said.
I said, you give me one run, we win the game.

Speaker 8 And kind of same thing that, you know, I told you, I'm kind of walking up and down, you know, the rows of the plane.

Speaker 8 I think I had it, you know, I think I had a beer in my hand and just telling everybody the same thing because I knew, I knew people were nervous, right? Like, no, I, I got you.

Speaker 8 We, we get one run, the game's over. And sure enough, Schwarber goes out there and hits a lead off homer.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Right.

Speaker 8 Like,

Speaker 8 and then that was, and then, you know, Dex came up to me and I, I go, hey, that's it. It's game.

Speaker 1 Game's over. And Schwarber,

Speaker 1 I've heard the story that Schwarber went in the tunnel after he hit that home run and just screamed to himself, suck my dick, Pittsburgh.

Speaker 8 Oh, he does that. That's his thing, man.
And he, I mean, he did the same thing.

Speaker 8 Shit, game,

Speaker 8 one of those games in Cleveland, right? Like, he's just screaming it on first base, right?

Speaker 1 That's,

Speaker 8 you know, and it'd be, it would have been awesome to have that same group. uh forever in chicago but i mean how do you not love schwarber he's and i tell the boy, the boys in Philly, like

Speaker 8 a lot of fans, like Miles Teller is a good friend of mine. He's like, Hey, what do you got on Schwarber? I go, I go, bro, you guys couldn't have signed a better guy, yeah, right?

Speaker 8 Like, if you like a leadoff hitter that's gonna hit you 40 home runs, you know, and in front of Harper, and that's that's a nice lineup, by the way.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so it is, yeah, and that's a nice lineup, yeah. He Schwarber's one of those guys, we're lucky enough to meet a lot of guys, but he's one of those guys I've gotten to know.

Speaker 1 And it's like, I genuinely just root for him no matter, like he could be on any team, even maybe even the cardinals I might even still root for him personally which is saying

Speaker 8 yeah he's easy to root for man and he just like he fits in anywhere uh he's just he's just a baseball guy you want him on the team he's good in the clubhouse he's funny on the flights like he's just he's just one of those guys right so wherever he goes like you said it's he's easy to root for there's also something uh that's just awesome about kind of a a big boy mashing taters just like smashing his arms yeah he's thick man he's thick Yeah, and he moves deceptively quick, too, for his size.

Speaker 1 He's pretty athletic.

Speaker 8 He is. He is.
He's like a propane tank with ears.

Speaker 1 He's, I, the other story I tell, I don't know if I've said this one, I, you might have been there too.

Speaker 1 I was, uh, like I said, I was very, very lucky to be able to hang out with you guys during those years, but it was, I think it was Rizzo's event, and we all went out to dinner, and Schwarber was eating a salad, and he was just like, fucking Theo says I got to lose 15 pounds.

Speaker 1 And he was like, I've never seen someone so sad about having to eat a salad at a steakhouse. And that was like, you could feel it.
It was great. It was like, that's, you're a dude.

Speaker 2 You're just a guy.

Speaker 8 Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, he, he's gone through those little periods where, you know, he had, he had the knee, uh, the knee happened in 16. And I mean, he busted his ass like,

Speaker 8 like I've never seen before to get, I mean, to come back, right? Like the way he did. And, you know, we had, you know, Josh Cat was the,

Speaker 8 was the owner of a company called Kitch Fix.

Speaker 8 And I think that that they're probably still big in Chicago, but he would, you know, we kind of fuck with Schwarber, but they would always put like this big bag of pre-made meals on his chair, right?

Speaker 8 Like, this is what you have to eat, whatever. But

Speaker 8 I think he's going to rake either way. Yeah, whether he weighs 220, 240, don't matter.
He's going to hit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 I remember talking to him when we went down to spring training one year, and he was talking about his prep and how he came back from the knee injury.

Speaker 2 And part of that process was he just went out, stood in the batter's box while they had a pitching machine fire 100 mile an hour fastballs. He just stood there for hours on end, tracking it

Speaker 2 with his eyes, not even swinging. That's the most psycho shit I think I've ever heard.
Like, just being almost like a meditative state that you put yourself into.

Speaker 8 That's one of those little things that you hear like a great player do that you're like, oh shit, like, why didn't we ever think about that? Right.

Speaker 8 But that's how, that's how you put in, you put in the work and you get get those reps in

Speaker 8 when you have a torn ACL, right? So fuck,

Speaker 8 more power to him for doing that. And it obviously paid off.
And he was not only a huge

Speaker 8 contributor

Speaker 8 during that run, but in the years that came after that. And, you know, you just look what he's done in any lineup that he's going to hit it, right? He's...

Speaker 8 a guy, a guy that can hit leadoff and do that sort of damage.

Speaker 8 You don't see it everywhere.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Yeah, we had him for like six months in D.C., and I was so happy to be rooting.

Speaker 1 He hit like 100 home runs that one weekend.

Speaker 3 It was awesome.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so let's talk about baseball today because now you're on the other side. Who's your favorite pitcher to watch and why?

Speaker 8 Oh, I mean, it's such an easy question.

Speaker 8 If everybody on the planet doesn't say Jacob deGrom, I mean, they're not like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I've told people this for a couple of years.

Speaker 8 I think he's the best starting pitcher to ever put on the uniform.

Speaker 1 Wow. And

Speaker 8 if he can stay healthy, right?

Speaker 8 And I, I hope, you know, him and Scherzer are on the IL currently still, correct? Yeah. Which is such, such a shame.

Speaker 1 Like, I think Scherzer's knife, right? Yeah, Scherzer must be back, but DeGrom is, yeah.

Speaker 8 So our, our game needs both of those guys, but most importantly, DeGrom.

Speaker 8 I mean, he's just, if you get to watch him in person, just what he's able to do with the baseball and what, where he, and when he came into the big leagues, was it 2013 or something like that yeah so he his average fastball velocity was around 93 maybe a tick over it's gone steadily up since then and now he's sitting 99 like averaging like it's just it blows you away to see what he can do as a starting pitcher so i think he's just i think he's in his own league right um

Speaker 8 And I hope he stays healthy for another 15 years because if he can do that, I think he'll be the best ever.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I saw him live last year. I bet the over

Speaker 2 on the game. And I think that was the game where I went out there and struck out like 16 people against the Nationals.
And it was the most dominating performance I've ever seen from a pitcher.

Speaker 2 At some point halfway through, I just, I said, you know what? Fuck it. I'm here to apply greatness.
And it was awesome to see.

Speaker 8 It's a thing of beauty, man. I mean,

Speaker 8 to watch a starting pitcher not only command the baseball, have the mound presence, but to do it at that type of velocity, right? I mean, he throws 98 to 102, you know, and

Speaker 8 the catcher's glove, it's like, it's there at 102, which is just a wild, a wild thing to

Speaker 8 witness in person. And to watch him do it for 100 and something pitches and to also hear that now that his mechanics are as refined as they've ever been, like that's a scary proposition.
So look,

Speaker 8 I wish him all the health. I hope, I hope

Speaker 8 he gets back out there as soon as possible.

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Speaker 2 I've got a hypothetical for you because I think we talked about what it would be like if an average person faced off against Jacob DeGrom.

Speaker 2 I'm not going to ask you that, but I will ask you at the peak of your career, so we're talking like late 2015,

Speaker 2 if I stepped into the batters box against you and I had you throw 100 pitches, do you think I could lay down a bunt?

Speaker 8 No.

Speaker 1 Not even a bunt.

Speaker 8 A bunt fair.

Speaker 2 Yeah, fair bunt. Yeah.
I mean, not like reach first base, but just make contact with the balls, fair territory.

Speaker 8 No, there's just so many things that I would do. Like I'd throw you like high sinkers at your hands that it probably fell off your fist into your face.

Speaker 8 You know, I would throw you like, I'd throw you.

Speaker 8 You probably couldn't get the curveball down either, but that would probably be your best bet, right? To throw you a low curveball and just kind kind of throw the bat at it.

Speaker 8 I don't, I don't think so, man.

Speaker 2 I think if you threw me a curveball, I would bail out of the box every time.

Speaker 2 You could throw me 100 straight curveballs that would start coming at me, and I would never learn my lesson, I would just bail out.

Speaker 8 It's a hard thing to do. You know, and Eric, my buddy, we just did a podcast.
He goes, Well, how long do you have to react? You know, is it like a second or a little more than a second? I can do it.

Speaker 8 It's like a 10 two-tenths of a second, right?

Speaker 1 Right?

Speaker 8 Like, by the time you

Speaker 8 think you're going to swing, it's already too late.

Speaker 8 And that's why I told them, like, it's that, it's that much more impressive with what hitters are able to do with the velocity where it is in the game today, because you almost have, like, out of hand, you're either swinging or you're not.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 8 You know, it's just

Speaker 1 another hypothetical. Uh, reverse it.
You won Silver Slugger in

Speaker 1 2016 as a pitcher. You hit like 262.

Speaker 1 If you were able to bat all year, do you, what would your average and numbers look like?

Speaker 8 That's a good good question.

Speaker 8 Not getting consistent in bats is hard, right?

Speaker 8 You're hitting once every five days, still working on it in between.

Speaker 8 So you want to think that your numbers would maybe go up a little bit or stay around the same and have a little bit more power, but then you're just facing so many more arms, right?

Speaker 8 There's so many more opportunities for, you know, for failure.

Speaker 8 You go through periods where you're hitting the ball hard and and you're still getting out. So

Speaker 8 it might sound like the right answer to say my numbers would be where they're at or higher.

Speaker 8 I just think I'd get it. Honestly, with y'all, I think I'd get exposed a little bit more, right?

Speaker 1 Because look,

Speaker 8 because

Speaker 8 I could hit the fastball. Like I was ready to hit the fastball at all times.
But if you got ahead of me, if you throw anything that resembled a strike, I'm still swinging at it.

Speaker 8 Like that's, that's why it's so much more impressive to see guys,

Speaker 8 you know, they're, you know, it's a 1-2-0-2 count, and you throw this bastard curveball. It's like, how do you not even flinch? Right.

Speaker 8 So I'm pretty sure the numbers would have gone down in a full season.

Speaker 1 So from a pitcher's perspective, like, and could you feel it when you're in the batter's box, would the pitcher take a little off, like take a rest almost when the pitcher position comes up in the NL?

Speaker 1 Because I always felt like that would be when a lot of the hits happen where it's like, oh, maybe they're not, you know, throwing their absolute best stuff.

Speaker 1 They're taking not a break, but it's a different mentality than going up against mike trout when you're going up against a pitcher would you would you feel that happen from time to time with certain with certain guys and from experience um

Speaker 8 you know 90 of the pitchers that step in the box it's like all right i'm i'm throwing i'm throwing a four seam right down the middle right right but when you have like

Speaker 8 uh you have Adam Wainwright, you have DeGrom, you have Sindergaard, you have Scherzer, you have Grinky, you have Baumgartner, when you have certain guys, certain pit, you know the guys that can that can swing it, right?

Speaker 8 And if, if I'm, if I'm going to be a dumbass and throw Grinky like 93 down the middle, he's going to put a nice swing on it. Is it a guaranteed hit? No, but I'm doing him a favor.

Speaker 8 And I feel like guys were the same way with me, right? Like

Speaker 8 guys knew I could hit. Guys knew I could hit the ball a long way.
So a lot of the times I would get like a first pitch slider,

Speaker 8 which is a fucking terrific pitch to throw me, first pitch.

Speaker 2 You know, and if you, if I got into a 2-0 count and you threw a fastball like it better be in like a decent spot like but that doesn't mean i'm gonna hit over the fence it just means i'm gonna put a really good swing on yeah i i think maybe my favorite career highlight of yours is when you were batting it's not even a start that you had or a particular pitch that you threw you stepped in the box against madison bumgardner and you put a shot out into left field and it's like a sea of black and and orange out there except for the dude that caught the ball he's the only cubs fan in the entire stadium, and he hit it like directly into his glove.

Speaker 2 It was awesome. Can you walk me through like that at bat and how awesome it feels as a pitcher to hit a home run off a great pitcher like Madison Bumpers?

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 8 I mean, really cool story.

Speaker 8 You know, we're on the road, obviously, playing San Francisco and

Speaker 8 trying to move past them to get to the

Speaker 8 NLCS. And at the time, Bumgardner had been, you know, he had like 20 scoreless innings in the postseason or something.

Speaker 8 Like Like he was, that was kind of during his run of being like, you know, this, this Titan in the postseason and just kind of bulldog and hard to beat, right?

Speaker 8 So it was a, it was a pretty exceptional game. And he kept throwing me up and in, right? Which is from the left side, he's kind of slinging it over here and it's kind of coming across the plate.

Speaker 8 I think he threw me two up there. I think I swung a miss and I took one for a ball.
He went like,

Speaker 8 might have thrown an off speed. I'm like, like, I got two strikes.
He's definitely, he's coming up and in again, right? So I sold out to the up and in.

Speaker 8 If he would have thrown anything middle away, I mean, I'm walking back to the deck,

Speaker 8 right? But I happened to guess right, put a good swing on it. And off the bat, I'm like, shit, that's going to either,

Speaker 8 it seemed to me like it had a little bit of top spin.

Speaker 8 I caught it. I caught it pretty clean, but it was kind of a line drive.

Speaker 8 And so if you see when I'm running around first base, the ball had just gotten over the wall and I'm kind of getting after it to get on second base for a double. And

Speaker 8 I see it's out. I go to high-five, Brandon Hyde, and he almost like spins me around, right? And like a corkscrew, and I almost ate shit.

Speaker 8 But my favorite reaction was Riz in the dugout, just kind of seeing it on replay, his reaction.

Speaker 8 And then Denster told me he was sitting in the stands during that game, and he said he just kept screaming, The Russians cut.

Speaker 1 The Russians been cut, right? Because,

Speaker 8 you know, at the time, Bumgarner hadn't given up shit in the postseason, you know, for a while. So really cool moment.

Speaker 8 But yeah, I've got some cool moments

Speaker 8 as a hitting pitcher. One, I'll tell you real quick.
So in

Speaker 8 20,

Speaker 8 this might have been 2016. We're in Arizona.
All the starting pitchers throw in like five grand. Whoever hits the first homer, the other pitcher is buying a watch, right?

Speaker 8 So

Speaker 8 I think Lester started game one. I started game two.
I'm facing Shelby Miller. First at bat of the year, I hit a homer dead center, right?

Speaker 8 So I won the watch bet very, very first, very first of bat of the year. And Lester, like,

Speaker 8 you got to be shitting me. First at bat of the year? Like, I mean, they were, they were, they were pissed, right? But

Speaker 8 I think that's, that's a pretty cool one, too.

Speaker 2 We have that same right here, part of my take.

Speaker 1 First, first guy that hits a major league. First guy to bench that.
Yeah. First guy that can bench that behind me.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Who's the hardest guy to get out right now now in Major League Baseball?

Speaker 1 Or maybe even if you're top three hitters, that you're like those guys, they do something different than everyone else, where it's just a completely different beast when you're baseball.

Speaker 8 Top three right now.

Speaker 8 Okay.

Speaker 8 Soto.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 8 And

Speaker 8 some of this is from nightmares from personal experience with these guys.

Speaker 8 So Soto, just, I mean, he's 21 years old or 20, and just

Speaker 8 the advanced knowledge of the strike zone to go along with his ability as a hitter

Speaker 8 is amazing. Again, hopefully, he stays healthy and plays this game for a long time.
He's good for the game.

Speaker 8 Ronald Lacuna

Speaker 8 has to be in there.

Speaker 8 Again, hopefully, he can stay healthy. Awesome that he's back from that

Speaker 8 injury. That injury was awful in Miami.

Speaker 8 Those two guys are phenomenal. Who else, man?

Speaker 8 Let's go down the teams. Where we got here.
I mean, and when he's healthy, I mean,

Speaker 8 Fernando Tatis.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Like

Speaker 8 when he's dialed in, like

Speaker 8 he's going to the opposite field. You miss with spin inside part of the plate.
He's taking you to left or left center for a homer.

Speaker 8 Good strikes on judgment. So, I mean, I think those are, those are three good ones right there.

Speaker 2 But yeah, I mean, I could probably come up with a few more, but those are those those three are tough was there any dude that you pitched against that might not have been like a superstar or a name that we would first think of when we're thinking of the great hitters of like the mid 2000s or uh or the teens that for some reason had your number like one guy that was a thorn in your side

Speaker 8 uh there are guys like that man um

Speaker 8 i'm trying to think early in my career at chicago and then uh

Speaker 8 Well, I mean, look, Joey Vado, obviously,

Speaker 8 he's way high on the list, but I could never really get him out. I got him out of like maybe, you know, three times and then no hitter in Cincinnati, but I just got hits.

Speaker 8 I gave up. And look, I love Eric Sogard, but I gave up a grand slam to Eric Sogard early in my career.
Okay. That

Speaker 8 to me,

Speaker 8 that sticks with me, you know?

Speaker 8 And that was, I think, 2010, 2011.

Speaker 1 Wait, when you say that sticks with you, like, how often does it pop in your head?

Speaker 8 When I'm telling stories of like my little league team, they're asking, asking, you know,

Speaker 8 they think that like you're always like elite and just like the best there ever was. I'm like, dude, no, like I, I give up, I give up a grand slam to a nine-hole hitter, right?

Speaker 8 And it, you know,

Speaker 8 more than more than it should.

Speaker 8 I'm gonna, yeah, and I'm gonna text Sogi right now, you son of a bitch.

Speaker 1 He's like, I'm thinking about that grand slam.

Speaker 1 No, there,

Speaker 8 I'd have to look back, man, but there are, there are definitely guys that would hit in that like, you know, seven to nine spot that I just couldn't get out, right?

Speaker 8 And some of it, some of it early in the career is just kind of lack of focus. You get through the first five, six guys and you're like, oh, I got them.

Speaker 8 And then you give up, you know, you give up three or four runs. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Get a headline grab going. One way that every, like, it's always good to drum up some sort of headline when players talk about the shift for whatever reason.

Speaker 2 What are your thoughts on the shift? Are we banning the shift?

Speaker 8 All right. Well, this is a tough, this is a tough one because if you talk, you know, you talk to guys like Rizzo or you talk to hitters that only hit the ball to the pool side, they get pissed, right?

Speaker 8 They, they don't want the shift. And I, I, I hate to say that I kind of understand it, but at the same time, and Rizzo, Rizzo has been good.

Speaker 8 Like when he's, when he's behind the count, he'll go to the opposite field. Yeah.
Like he'll, he'll, he'll hit those little line drives like in front of the left fielder. He'll take his base hits.

Speaker 8 Like what happened to

Speaker 8 what happened to that? What happened to

Speaker 8 focusing on being as well-rounded of a hitter as you can?

Speaker 8 Well, let me answer my own question. I think that some of it is this advanced analytics and these guys just telling them to be one-dimensional.

Speaker 8 Like, we want you to hit for power and continue to try and hit for power regardless, right? Yeah. But I mean, runs come at a premium sometimes, right?

Speaker 8 Like, it's not just guaranteed that you're going to score five or six runs in any given game, right?

Speaker 8 Like, I've been part of teams that went through stretches where they scored scored one or two runs in the course of four or five games. So

Speaker 8 if I can get some production, you know, even if

Speaker 8 it's a base hit to the opposite field, then that puts the starting pitcher in the stretch, right? Things can happen. Pass ball,

Speaker 8 manufacturing runs shouldn't be a lost art, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 8 So

Speaker 8 I understand the argument for banning the shift, but I also don't like the idea of having the greatest product in the world,

Speaker 8 the greatest product of the sport in the world, the highest level of the sport, telling guys that they no longer need to learn how to be multidimensional as a hitter.

Speaker 8 And look,

Speaker 8 I'm not dead set on that. I love having the argument.
I love listening to guys kind of discuss why it should or shouldn't be done.

Speaker 8 And, you know, but I...

Speaker 1 I don't love it.

Speaker 8 I don't love the shit being banned. I really don't.
What do you think? What do you guys think?

Speaker 1 I agree with you.

Speaker 1 Like, beat the shift yeah beat the shift there's lay down lay down a bunt yeah i remember renzo once laid down a bunt to that side and it's like and like you said if you can beat the shift with an easy single to the opposite field then you can't shift the next batter you know what i mean with a guy on base so everything kind of changes so i yeah i i'm with you i think that it's it's gamesmanship and teams should look guys should learn how to beat the shift and then they won't shift because like that's the thing is all these things are numbers based and as soon as a guy can prove that he can hit it the other way, they won't shift him.

Speaker 8 That's a fact, and I've seen you see Freddie Freeman drop it down. I'm,

Speaker 8 you've seen a lot of guys,

Speaker 8 you know, I think that we've seen Max Muncie do it, right? Like, if you're gonna leave that entire side of the field open, Bryce Harper's done it, right? Like, guys will do it, so

Speaker 8 maybe they just need, we need to do it more often, but then you sacrifice, okay, your biggest thump in the lineup, potentially, like being on first base.

Speaker 8 So I see that, but there are a lot, there are a bunch of lineups in the game right now that aren't just provided power from one or two guys.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Right. Like there's a lot of guys who can leave the ballpark with one swing of the bat.
So,

Speaker 8 and getting guys on base is

Speaker 8 it's a big deal for more pitchers than you think, right? A lot of guys don't like to throw out of the stretch. And you would think at that level,

Speaker 8 it's kind of part of the game, whether you're in the windup or the stretch. But the guy on first base or second base can fuck with him, right?

Speaker 8 And if the guy gets a second base, now you have to deal with mixing in different sets of signs. And,

Speaker 8 you know, or if he's not stealing your signs, he can see the grip in your glove. And then you change like the way you position your hands.

Speaker 8 Like, there's way more variables that come to play than you think. So getting a guy on base, it does more than just,

Speaker 8 you know, create a situation where you that will lead to runs, right? It puts more pressure on the pitcher.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and yeah, that's interesting.

Speaker 2 And on the outfield, too, and on the infield, like everything, everything changes up. The small adjustments.
I actually think, so yeah, home runs are fun. I love home runs.
It's awesome to watch.

Speaker 2 Our producer, Bubba, has a thing like a kink where he just sits down and watches YouTube compilations of monster shots, which is awesome. I get that.
But you know what? Small ball is fun.

Speaker 2 I think small ball is fun.

Speaker 2 When you get like guys stealing bases and you get like manufacturing runs, like you were talking about, that to to me is why i started watching baseball and what i loved when i was a kid yeah it's one of those intricacies of the game that makes it um

Speaker 8 one it it requires like a uh another level of knowledge to understand that right like if you're just like a common fan of the game like yeah you expect to see home runs and you expect to see 100 miles an hour and all that stuff But like, if you really love the game, you understand like the complexity of it and you appreciate the complexity of it, right?

Speaker 8 Like

Speaker 8 gaining an extra 90 feet, right? Like is incredibly important.

Speaker 8 Whether that, if that guy can move from first base just to second base, there's so many more things that have to be done now with that guy there, right?

Speaker 8 If this guy, and think about the play at the plate on a base hit. If this guy, if as a pitcher, if I can't keep this guy somewhat close to the bag, right?

Speaker 8 If I allow his lead just to get a little bit too far out there, that's the difference between him being safer out at the plate, right? So there's so many things that have to happen.

Speaker 8 And especially if you have a young pitcher on the mound, you want to expose that, right? Whether

Speaker 8 he has, you know, a great demeanor or mound presence or not, like things speed up when guys get on base. So that's something that, you know, can't go overlooked.

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Speaker 1 Rowback question.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 you played in Major League Baseball for a very long time. Can you give me the top three cities that the team would be most excited to go visit?

Speaker 1 Top three cities that you'd be like, whether it be the actual field

Speaker 1 or the, you know, maybe the clubhouse or the actual city in terms of eating options, what are the top three that everyone was...

Speaker 1 And also, side question, did you believe that there were ghosts in the Pfister Hotel in Milwaukee?

Speaker 8 I never saw one.

Speaker 1 We actually had a ghost hunter find him. We stayed in there.
Okay.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, with that show, those guys from that show no we just hired someone who's on craig's okay i just remember vj who who you know obviously very well used to say that like yeah shout out to vj shout out vj the man he said that like half the cubs wouldn't stay there uh man i like if they're if there are ghosts like i want to see them i'm you know i'd like to see it you know what i think the whole the whole deal with the fisher was the wallpaper was so shitty and old that when you say

Speaker 2 yeah you say a place like that the wallpaper makes you think it reminds you of like old horror movies from the 70s no no no 100 100 and you you know what?

Speaker 8 The Vinoy in Tampa is kind of got a similar vibe, right?

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 8 I don't know if you guys have been there, yeah. So we would stay there and we play the rays.
So good question.

Speaker 8 Maybe not necessarily in any particular order. Obviously, Chicago is number one, let's be honest.

Speaker 8 You guys are familiar with that city. I love San Francisco.
It's kind of gotten a little weird, you know, over the past couple of years.

Speaker 8 But I mean, the food, the people watching, being close to the water.

Speaker 8 A good friend of mine, Mark Bright, owns a restaurant called Angler that is right there off of the water, not far from the ballpark. It's a must-go.

Speaker 8 Last time I was there, it was me, Rizzo, Tommy Listella, and Ian Hap. And we had like this 20-pound, like huge crab, right? And they tell me, I'm like, hey, well, how much is that? They're like,

Speaker 8 I think it's this crab is probably like 200 bucks. I'm like, all right, yeah, great, great.

Speaker 8 And then the bill comes. It's like a $500 crab.
I mean, if if you're off by, and it was fine, we still loved it. But like off by 300 bucks,

Speaker 8 that's a lot. That's a lot.
I mean, whatever. But San Francisco.
I love the ballpark

Speaker 8 and just walking around early, like being kind of elevated in the stands and looking out at the at the bay. Really cool place.

Speaker 8 I haven't been to Toronto in quite a while, but I've always loved that city.

Speaker 8 The ballpark is,

Speaker 8 but I mean,

Speaker 8 the city's great, especially if you're there kind of in the late spring, the golf is phenomenal.

Speaker 8 Stand down near the water. I think it's Harbor 60 is the name of the restaurant.
One of the best in the world.

Speaker 8 Number three, let's see.

Speaker 8 And look, I'm not a giant fan of New York, but I love to go for like three or four day stretches.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's the perfect city to do that.

Speaker 8 I love to go there for three or four days. I like to bounce around, grab a coffee, grab a juice, and just go for a walk, man.
Whether it's through Central Park or going down to Soho,

Speaker 8 you know, you can spend a lot of money there, which is fine. And

Speaker 8 I love playing in City Field. Obviously, Yankee Stadium is great.

Speaker 8 Yeah, so those three are great.

Speaker 1 Those are good answers. Those are good answers.
Well, we really appreciate you coming on. And also a special thank you.

Speaker 1 I know you probably, it was like a blip for you, but when you decided in 2015 that the shirt that I made, the We Are good shirt was going to be your warm-up shirt for every single game um that was huge that was huge and then there was a day where i was out in the bleachers because i had season tickets in the bleachers and um i think there was like probably like 70 of the bleachers was wearing that shirt and i think ricketts looked at it and was like wait what the fuck and uh tried to sue us because he's like you can't sell that i was like yeah that probably makes sense we probably shouldn't sell it well

Speaker 8 i i don't know i don't well i think you should really just maybe take the uh if you got to get rid of the cubs logo maybe you should bring that back as a great shirt it was and you wore it every single like i did i don't i think i only sent you one but you just wore it every day yeah every day

Speaker 8 i i cut the i cut it to a v-neck big v-neck guy sleeves off i mean when i get to when i got to the field shorts sliders on and the we are good shirt yeah every day you was the best you like do push-ups before games right to get yourself warmed up It's just one of those.

Speaker 8 Yeah. Well, that wasn't,

Speaker 8 that didn't get me warmed up. It was just kind of one of those last like

Speaker 8 things that i would do before i would start playing catch because the warm-up was happening like hour two hour before the game that was just kind of that was a little showmanship for the fans yeah that's what i figured i was like i don't think that doing doing shops on the field really gets you like an extra tick or two

Speaker 1 yeah like if that was that was my only only warm-up just like six push-ups yeah i am also i don't want to bring up bad memories but i also am convinced the 2015 nlcs if you had worn sleeves it would have gone differently you were wiggling You were sleeveless.

Speaker 1 That was like one of the coldest baseball games I've ever been to. Well, unfortunately.

Speaker 1 Badass with no sleeves.

Speaker 8 Well, look,

Speaker 8 if anyone can do it, it's a starting pitcher because you're out there, you're moving, right? Every pitch, right? So

Speaker 8 you're

Speaker 8 max effort or exerting effort, 10, 12 seconds, you're doing it again. In between innings, you go in there, you throw your jacket on, whatever.
I just, I've never liked the sleeve.

Speaker 8 It just would always screw with me. And then guys like

Speaker 8 that could wear those old school baggy sleeves that would come up over your hand yeah yeah like psychopaths so i just i would lather some red hot or whatever and it was tank top and then jersey like that's just and it was like it was no joke like 40 degrees with like a 15 mile an hour window yeah yeah what was colder was game two in cleveland yeah yeah that was that was unbelievably cold you know but yeah that's just kind of kind of my deal i uh hated sleeves, man.

Speaker 8 So I try to stay as warm as I could so I could go out there and no sleeves.

Speaker 2 And you were never a guy that would put on, like, I always love it when pitchers would put on the warm-up jacket when they get on base.

Speaker 2 It's like, we're not even going to try to run here.

Speaker 8 I absolutely, absolutely hated it, really. You know,

Speaker 8 that I've always been against. I just think it's such a bad luck, you know?

Speaker 1 Like, are you, are you? Yeah.

Speaker 8 Well, I hate, like, I can't take anything away from Greg, right? He's unbelievable, but cut it out with the jackets.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 2 I kind of love it in a weird way where a pitcher gets on base and they're like, I really don't want to be here right now. I would much rather be in the dark hour.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Yeah. Well, I understand not want to run the bases.
That's, especially if you, you know, say you're on first base and there's, it's a full count and there's six foul balls in a row, right?

Speaker 8 Like you got to take off, you got to come back. You got to take off.
Like

Speaker 8 that's not where you want to be, but the jackets got to go. It's got to go.
Like, are you really, are you really that cold to where you can't wait a few minutes?

Speaker 1 It's a good fair point.

Speaker 2 I've actually, we've talked so much. I have one last, last question.
I was just reminded of game six in Cleveland.

Speaker 2 Was it a little bit bittersweet going out there and winning that game knowing that Marlin's man wasn't in attendance?

Speaker 8 I don't even think about that.

Speaker 1 Oh, really?

Speaker 2 That would be the first thing I would think about.

Speaker 8 You know, I mean, but you can, you know, he's fucking there, right? You see that, especially it's like, well, what do you do? You're the only guy in this color shirt.

Speaker 2 Well, he didn't go to Cleveland because the fans attacked him there it has nothing to do with the fact that you can't see behind home plate on television um it's just he didn't he didn't like the people there so he didn't we were we were told we were told like hey when you leave the field or your family and friends leave the field tell them to not have their cubs gear on which you know so marlins man was right yeah marlins man was right

Speaker 8 especially if you're in a damn construction shirt like you can see that from from anywhere yep yeah so uh

Speaker 8 a tick sketchy but hey i i love Cleveland.

Speaker 8 I've had a blast there. And it's funny when I get the question, hey, like early in my career, what cities do you not like?

Speaker 8 Yeah, I'd have a couple, but now it's like when you played long enough, you have your spots, right? Like you have the places you like to go.

Speaker 8 You got your food, you got your golf courses, and you're good to go.

Speaker 1 I love it. I love it.
Chicago, San Francisco, and New York.

Speaker 2 So you'll be voting for Biden again?

Speaker 8 What's that?

Speaker 1 Excuse me? Oh, thank you, James.

Speaker 1 Yeah, guys, it was a blast. You're the best, man.
We appreciate it. Hopefully, we'll see more of you.

Speaker 8 No doubt. No doubt.
It was good being with y'all.

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Speaker 1 Glasses. Okay, let's wrap up.
We got a Monday reading. By the way, I watched the Jordan Speed video.

Speaker 1 The baby has every right to cry, but that baby was never going anywhere. So that was like a, that was a, like, the baby's probably like, what the fuck, this sucks.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the baby denied.

Speaker 1 The baby was never going baby. That ball, you could punch that baby out.
It wouldn't go anywhere. I don't know.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 There's some running back coaches watching that sweating right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Adam.

Speaker 1 Okay, this is brought to us by Billy. Billy actually came out.
Billy, you want to do the reading? Sure. All right, let's do it.
This is a good reading.

Speaker 6 Let me pull it up. I found it on Reddit, and I forget what exactly.

Speaker 1 Here, you sent it to us. I can send it to you.

Speaker 6 I'm pulling it up.

Speaker 1 Boom. Perfect.

Speaker 2 Billy football.

Speaker 3 What's subreddit?

Speaker 6 I think it is from the AITA. Am I the asshole? Subreddit.

Speaker 1 Oh, nice.

Speaker 6 No, it's from Relationship Advice.

Speaker 1 Nice. Perfect.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Go.

Speaker 6 So I know this is a weird question, but my boyfriend likes to spend a lot of his free time digging a tunnel on some property that he inherited.

Speaker 6 I haven't seen the full extent of it, but last I saw, it was remarkably deep under the surface. He spent roughly a year on it, and it's evident.

Speaker 6 The front of the thing is deep, wide, well put together.

Speaker 6 At the front, which is the only part that I've seen, he's got cement beams, electric lights, even chairs and a small table timeout okay time out real quick

Speaker 1 i

Speaker 2 obviously with the the table and everything but for a minute there i thought this was gonna be one of those joke posts like plot twist i'm married to my dog because like wouldn't that make sense that like my boyfriend slash my dog is just digging a huge hole or or maybe it might be a guy that's got like a cosplay fetish where he likes to pretend that he's a dog and that's what he's doing there the the first thing that you mentioned that really caught my eye that i i don't remember reading about before is this is inherited land.

Speaker 2 So it seems like I'm just thinking this might be a treasure hunt thing right off the bat.

Speaker 2 Like maybe there's a will that's been left where it's like, you, you know, I'm going to leave you three riddles, and that's the clue as to where the treasure is on the property.

Speaker 1 Read that last sentence again about

Speaker 1 the construct of the hole.

Speaker 6 The front of the thing is deep, wide, and well put together. At the front, which is the only part that I've seen, he's got cement beams, electric lights, even chairs, and a small table.

Speaker 1 Okay, this part, this is actually crazier. That

Speaker 1 I, how do you have a tunnel in your backyard and not want to go in it that she hasn't visited?

Speaker 2 Correct. Because I don't think he lets her in.

Speaker 1 Okay. I feel like this is like his club.
This is a little man cave. I'd like to go visit this.
Okay.

Speaker 6 I haven't gone into it, but it looked like the quality severely dropped as the tunnel went further.

Speaker 1 Well, duh, that's

Speaker 1 how a tunnel works.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you want to make it look nice on the outside.

Speaker 1 Hey, you think like a coal miner? You think it's a fucking luxury bedroom at the bottom of that hole?

Speaker 6 Mostly becoming open dirt with some wood beams holding it up. My biggest concern is his safety.
I'm really worried that he's going to dig too deep and it'll collapse on him or something. Okay.

Speaker 1 She's right or die.

Speaker 1 Because like

Speaker 1 her biggest concern is not, hey, my boyfriend just keeps going out every day and digging a tunnel.

Speaker 2 She just wants him to

Speaker 2 come back every day after he's done digging the giant tunnel.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like have fun with your little tunnel. Just don't get hurt.

Speaker 2 It sounds like they need to have a conversation. Like all this seems like it could be solved with her just being a normal, supportive spouse and being like, hey, what's the deal with the hole? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Can you just walk me through it?

Speaker 1 Yeah, are we getting some treasure? Because I'm it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, what's your motivation here?

Speaker 1 Approach it that way. Okay.

Speaker 6 I've tried voicing this concern to him, but he just laughs it off and assures me that he'll be fine. Aside from safety concerns.

Speaker 1 That is

Speaker 1 no.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 2 Whenever a guy says you worry too much, that means that you're actually in that moment not worrying nearly enough.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's every time I go pick up hoops. I'm like, my back is fine.
Yeah, I'm good. I'll be fine.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 this whole, is he digging it by hand? Is this a shovel situation? It gets into a quick later.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 6 Aside from safety concerns, there's also the fact that he doesn't really have a social life because of this thing.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, he does. He's digging the hole.
And also, he probably has bros helping him out with it. Yeah,

Speaker 1 she clearly hasn't seen Field of Dreams. Like, if you build it, they will come.

Speaker 1 If you one day are like, hey, guys, want to check out my mile-long tunnel?

Speaker 2 It's like that video if you've seen the TikTok of the dudes just digging a hole at the beach, and then within like five minutes, other dudes just cross by and they start digging.

Speaker 1 Yes, if you, if, if a guy just, if any of you,

Speaker 1 and obviously New York City is a little different, but if any of you at any point in your life were like, hey, I've been working on this tunnel for a year. You want to come check it out?

Speaker 1 The answer is yes. No matter what.
Guys love holes. Yes.

Speaker 6 I'm pretty much the only person he still talks to outside of his job, and he doesn't go out and do anything anymore.

Speaker 1 It used to be... It's a dog.
It's a dog.

Speaker 6 It used to be that he'd occasionally head out and do some digging on the weekends,

Speaker 6 but now he spends almost all of his free time out there. He still comes home, but he barely spends any time with me.
And I know that he isn't doing anything but digging that damn hole in the ground.

Speaker 6 This can't be good for his mental health, but I don't know how to convince him to stop.

Speaker 6 He's always really happy when he comes back from digging, which is why I haven't seriously tried to stop him before.

Speaker 1 I think it's great for his mental health.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it sounds like he's getting rid of all of his stress and negative energy in a productive manner on his construction project.

Speaker 1 Also, just the idea of having like a task that you have to complete and just throwing yourself into it, that's good.

Speaker 2 I also think that as men, when we're growing up, we're told that our lives will have so many adventures in them.

Speaker 1 Oh, I thought you were going to say we're told that you can't actually dig to China.

Speaker 2 No, well, I was told. Maybe he's trying to find the devil.
Maybe he's just digging until he finds Satan so he can kill him.

Speaker 2 But I think that, like, as we're growing up, at least I was under the belief and the assumption that I would have just non-stop adventures.

Speaker 2 Like, you discover something and then you go on a treasure hunt. Or, you know, like, we're told through cartoons and movies.
And I think that guys just need adventures sometimes.

Speaker 2 And it sounds like he's found his adventure, which is, we should be applauding this and encouraging you to help him. Yeah.
Wait, does he drop a location?

Speaker 6 Going on. Obviously, I don't think he's insane, but I hadn't considered.

Speaker 6 I had to swipe left to the new one and find my place. Obviously, I don't think he's insane, but I hadn't considered the mental health aspect of this, and I just don't know what to do.

Speaker 6 T-L-D-R, boyfriend, spends all his time digging a tunnel, and I'm worried for both his physical and mental health.

Speaker 1 Well, physical, no. Well, I guess the tunnel collapsing, yeah, I guess that would be.
Whatever. Throw that aside.
It sounds like he's actually reinforcing it pretty well.

Speaker 1 I think this guy is a genius. Like, I,

Speaker 1 what do we, what do most people complain about these days? Like, 2022, everyone's on social media. Everyone's living their life online.
Everyone's looking at a screen.

Speaker 1 This guy's found a way to beat all of that by just building a never-ending tunnel.

Speaker 2 It sounds like something that would happen on South Park. Like, this guy sounds like Randy Marsh.
Yeah. I could see an episode where Randy just decides to dig a giant tunnel in his backyard.

Speaker 1 Or, now this just popped in my head. This could also be Elon Musk.
Isn't he a big tunnel guy? He's a big tunnel guy, yeah. He just never completes them?

Speaker 2 Yeah, he was digging that one to Halsey's house for a while.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so maybe it is.

Speaker 2 Could be Elon Musk, and this could be written by Halsey. Yeah, no, she's too busy watching the playoffs, so she's a big NBA.
By the way,

Speaker 1 she was firing off tweets.

Speaker 2 She's very funny on Twitter when she's talking about basketball. Yes,

Speaker 2 it's the old meme of like guys will literally dig a giant hole in their backyard for years at a time instead of going to therapy.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes.

Speaker 2 It sounds like this is his his stress relief right here. It sounds like

Speaker 2 I would be more concerned if he just stopped digging the hole all of a sudden because then he's got all that pent-up hole aggression and nowhere to take it out on.

Speaker 6 So looking in the comments, one of the biggest remarks were that the greatest danger would be hitting pockets of natural gas.

Speaker 6 So if the tunnel doesn't collapse, just he could hit some gases that would knock him out.

Speaker 1 Get a

Speaker 1 area, though, that... Oh, natural gas.
But then they could be rich. That could be the rest of their lives.

Speaker 2 If he dies, then guess what? It means that he's probably found a tremendous source of energy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 He's fracking.

Speaker 2 I understand that concern, but that's why they used to have actual canaries they'd keep down there in coal mines. So the canary dies, and they're like, fuck, I got to split.
This bird's dead.

Speaker 1 So that's what she's got to do. She's going to buy a bird.
Buy him a bird.

Speaker 2 Problem solved.

Speaker 1 Also, there's. I want to go help this guy.
Like, if we can figure out a way to find this guy, pardon my take road trip.

Speaker 2 absolutely there i i also think like they this could be a long elaborate just like suey thing that he's doing where he's just like i'm gonna dig this hole until i die he's building himself a tomb yeah just death by hole have you guys ever seen lovely bones no nope well there's a dude who dug a hole and he did bad things in it

Speaker 2 oh you think he's got like buffalo bill kind of shit he's got a hose down there he's got yeah Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 All right, so if that's the case, then cancel the road trip.

Speaker 1 Let's go on an adventure. Yeah, no, if we found it, we were the ones who

Speaker 1 were your dog. Yeah.
No, one of us would have to stay back in the car. That's all we got to do.
Jake. Yeah, Jake.
And then if we don't come back, then just call the cops.

Speaker 2 Save the children. Like, this could be us

Speaker 2 actually saving maybe hundreds of lives or us having a great time.

Speaker 1 This guy's awesome. I just want to at least talk to him.
Let's get him on the podcast.

Speaker 6 Dude, he's got a table with chairs, so you could definitely play some drinking games on it.

Speaker 1 He's building a bunker.

Speaker 2 So, yeah, what does he have the multiple chairs there for? It sounds like he's already having dudes over there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, when his friend shows, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He knows that eventually this will be the biggest attraction in his town.

Speaker 2 This honestly sounds awesome. Yeah.
Like, I'm thinking of being a kid going out in the backyard and just digging, finding rocks and shit. Yeah.
That was maybe the best time I've ever had in my life.

Speaker 2 I would love to dig a hole right now.

Speaker 1 Every day.

Speaker 1 Let's go dig the hole. Also, don't need a gym membership.

Speaker 1 Fucking digging a hole is hard work.

Speaker 2 It's a great workout.

Speaker 2 There's no better tasting drink than like an ice-cold lemonade after you've been digging a hole.

Speaker 1 Little dirt on your fingernails.

Speaker 1 We're in.

Speaker 2 We're in. Jake, what are your thoughts on Holgate?

Speaker 2 If I see a hole,

Speaker 1 going down in there won't help much. Yeah.
Just like stay away. You're not a Holgate? Stay away.
Yeah. You're not a caveman.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Can't get worse.

Speaker 1 In the hole? It could get better.

Speaker 1 What if there's gold? Then there's gold. Yeah, feels good.

Speaker 3 What if we're being bombed?

Speaker 1 True.

Speaker 2 You raise good points. What if there's a tornado?

Speaker 1 Yeah, what if this is a shelter he's building?

Speaker 2 This reminds me of the song that Billy was playing right before we

Speaker 2 attempted the 72-ounce steak challenge, which is called, the song's just called Diggy Diggy Hole.

Speaker 2 And Billy, we were driving down the street in like, no, it was in Arizona because Billy was like, hey, do you want to hear a Viking metal song about digging a hole?

Speaker 1 I was like, fuck yeah. Let's put it at the end of the show.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, toss it on here.

Speaker 1 Diggy, diggy, hole. Diggy, diggy hole.

Speaker 6 It's actually hilarious. It's by this Italian band that dresses up as gnomes.

Speaker 6 And they just sing about like digging a hole and they like perform as gnomes.

Speaker 1 Not gnomes, dwarves. Well, then put it on.
Yeah, put it at the end of the show.

Speaker 1 And please, someone, if anyone is listening to this and knows Hole Guy and wants to reach out, we'd love to have him on the show. And then go visit his hole.

Speaker 2 And help him. Yes.
With his mission. Yes.

Speaker 1 All right, numbers. Five.

Speaker 2 Give me a

Speaker 2 37.

Speaker 1 First tennis player ever on Wednesday's show.

Speaker 6 70 minus one.

Speaker 1 22.

Speaker 2 25.

Speaker 1 None of us have gotten it in a long time. 37.
Episode 2.

Speaker 1 You've never gotten it. Three out of play.

Speaker 3 Come down.

Speaker 1 63.

Speaker 1 60. You've never gotten it, Hank?

Speaker 2 Second time.

Speaker 1 Wait, we've all gotten it except Hank?

Speaker 2 I didn't know that. You definitely had it before, Hank.

Speaker 1 We talked about this like a week ago.

Speaker 1 That's like the worst streak ever.

Speaker 2 Damn, you suck at this.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I do.

Speaker 6 Love you guys. Chimpanzees regularly hunt monkeys.
Whoa.

Speaker 6 Brothers of the Myrish Horse. Swing, swing, swing with me.
Raise your finger, raise your voice. Shrink, swing, sing with me.
Down and down into the deep.

Speaker 6 More of what would find the limb, I'm a true bestow. The morning

Speaker 6 demonstrate,

Speaker 6 sucker from a deed of throne. Raised in the dark, the safety of our hunting home.
Steel made the wires steal in our bones. The ding and dick makes us free.
Come abroad, sing with me.

Speaker 6 I am a norm and a taking home.

Speaker 6 Take it, take it home, take it, take it home.

Speaker 6 I am a norm and I'm taking home.

Speaker 6 Take it, take it home, take it home.

Speaker 6 The sunlight will not reach this low. Deep, deep, into mine, never seen the blue moon glow.
First one size of mine, feel a crash and dance on me.

Speaker 6 Stop your melodies at the fear, stumble home and fall asleep. Dreaming in a mountain keep

Speaker 6 on the ground, roll inside around you. The earth needs to break, all the mountains shall become a doom.
Place us on the battlefield, you will need to do.

Speaker 6 We do not fear what lies may be, we can never dig the deep.

Speaker 6 I am the born man, I'm making home.

Speaker 6 Take me, take it home. Take me, take take it home.

Speaker 6 I am a door, man, I'm thinking old.

Speaker 6 Take a take you all

Speaker 6 take it away.

Speaker 6 I am a door, man, I'm thinking old.

Speaker 6 Take a take it all over, take me take it home.

Speaker 6 I am a door, man, I'm taking a home.

Speaker 6 Take a take you all

Speaker 6 take it a home.

Speaker 6 Born on the ground, suck a problem within the stone, raised in the dark, the safety of our hunting homes. Steam made the wire, stealing a road.
You dig and take makes a street.

Speaker 6 Come abroad and sing with me.

Speaker 6 I am a poor man, I'm making a home.

Speaker 6 Take a dingy home, take a digging home.

Speaker 6 I am a door man, I'm making a home.

Speaker 6 Take a digging over, taking home.

Speaker 6 I am a door, and I'm taking all

Speaker 6 take a take it all.

Speaker 6 Take me

Speaker 6 home.

Speaker 6 I am a door, and I'm taking all.

Speaker 6 Take a take it all,

Speaker 6 take it all.