Stanford Steve, Coach Tom Crean, QB Carousel & Guys on Chicks

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Coach Tom Crean with some analysis. Catch up with him.
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Today is Wednesday, March 23rd, and the QB carousel will not stop. No, we don't know about Baker yet, so we're recording this at 3.23 in the afternoon on Tuesday.
Don't know if Baker's going anywhere, but Matt Ryan got shipped from Atlanta to Indianapolis for a third- pick which I actually like to move I think Matt Ryan and I know Colts fans are now in this uh you know purgatory where they keep trying a different quarterback every year and I think the last four years have been Jacoby Brissett, Philip Rivers, Carson Wentz, Matt Ryan I still think they have a good enough team that like Philip Rivers remember that team they were uh very close to beating the Bills in that first round playoff game getting into the playoffs is the name of the game well they're rolling the dice they should have made the playoffs this year right but their defense let them down in that last game at Jackson correct but it's I I like to move I don't know I know Matt Ryan um gets shit on I's an above-average quarterback. He probably doesn't have many years left.
It's great that they have a decent offensive line. Right.
Because I think you were the first person that I heard say that he's the most sackable quarterback. He is.
His body just absorbs sacks. Kirk Cousins, I would also add to that list, though, because he has a way of kind of turtling in about himself.
Yes. Anytime there pass rusher five yards away from or closer but matt ryan i think he's actually i think he's a very good quarterback for the team that they've built in indianapolis and he's uh the most indiana looking person maybe ever yes so it's perfect like you created a video game character and you stopped halfway through because you didn't really care how much detail you wanted to put on his face he is he's perfect for indiana he's perfect for that team i also think that a small part of this is the end of 28 three jokes now they'll always live on but uh i saw cbs sports had a post that tried it was the moment where i was like okay this might be over um the colts traded the third round pick, and it's the 82nd pick in the draft.
And they're like 3-8-2, and then rearranged it 28-3. It's like, all right, it's over.
Numerology. Once you bring math into it.
You can't do that. You can't do multiplication, division.
You can't rearrange. If something lines up 28-3, I will see on it.
10% chance, if it's a tweet, I will click like on it. Right, if it was the 28th pick in the third round, maybe that makes sense.
But to say the 82nd pick overall and then doing that, so that, and Matt Ryan leaving, that's kind of the end of that era of Falcons. But I do like how even he was connected to go out to San Francisco,

played with Kyle Shanahan in Atlanta.

That's when he won his MVP.

And I liked imagining him for the 49ers.

That was fun for a little bit.

But I do think that with what he does and what he does well,

it's a good fit for the Colts.

It's unfortunately always going to be from now on like this trade

is going to be compared to Carson Wentz. And that's just how it's going to look, like one now on like this is this trade is going to be compared

to Carson Wentz and that's just how it's going to look like one third rounder to two third round picks and I'm going to have to age I'm going to have to be prepared to steal myself against that that's age that's age I I also want to throw this out there and I'm wondering what you think the to be a quarterback never a better time to be a quarterback if you're an elite quarterback kind of a shitty time to be a quarterback. If you're an elite quarterback, kind of a shitty time to be a quarterback.
If you're a yeah, but guy, because you mentioned Baker Mayfield. I think he might go to Seattle, but the seats are, are slowly filling up where like Baker Mayfield, where does he go? Does Jordan love ever get a starting shot? Like Jimmy G, if he doesn't leave, what happens to Trey Lance? So it's awesome for Deshaun Watson who gets, what was it, $230 million guaranteed? Or Lamar Jackson who's coming up soon? Or Russell Wilson when his contract's up soon? But that second, third, fourth tier of guys, it feels like they basically get a couple shots and then it's like, all right, we're moving onignment to me also feels like when uh when the west for the first time in a long time got really good in the nba yeah you know like what was that 15 years ago whenever that was 20 years ago when the west just became the dominant uh side of the nba this is like the afc just continues to stack up quarterbacks i if if i were an nfl player i would want to in the NFC right now.
If I'm a quarterback, it's like, send me to the NFC. I've got Aaron Rodgers, who's got probably a couple more years, and then he's done.
Tom Brady, who knows how long he'll be around before he goes to Las Vegas and to the AFC. But as far as the NFC goes, it's wide open.
There was a moment in time yesterday. This was before Jameis re-signed with the Saints, which we're very excited for, and Marcus Mariota signed with the Falcons.
But the quarterbacks in Tom Brady's division were Sam Darnold, Josh Rosen, and Taysom Hill. Yeah.
Like, that's why he came back. It's not a – there's no mystery behind the fact that Tom Brady looked around the landscape and was like, oh, we're guaranteed to go to the playoffs.
No matter what. I'm very glad to see Jameis back with the Saints.
It's going to be great. It's going to be awesome.
I want a full season of Jameis down there and a full season of off-season training videos, which is already way ahead of schedule right now. I don't know if you've seen him moving around on his leg.
He had one drill where I'm pretty sure his trainer was doing something like throwing golf clubs at him while he was trying to throw a wiffle ball through Hulu. He was awesome.
He was the one where he was in like a huge parachute, inflated, trying to run on a treadmill. But it, the.
I went hard knocks, Jameis Winston. Yeah.
Yes. Just Jameis.
The question though. So like Lamar, again, he's going to get his money.
He deserves his money. Russell Wilson will get his money.
He deserves his money. But like like, Kyler Murray? I don't know.
Because Kyler Murray feels right now in that very close but not there guy, do you give him all that money? And would Kyler Murray, like, some team's going to give him some money. Right.
He's probably going to be a team that's in a very tough position quarterback-wise that is just going to take an absolute shot at him if the Cardinals end up not resigning him and not extending him. And then I don't think that he's got it.
He doesn't strike me as a backup quarterback, like an extended career backup. No, I agree.
And that's the part where it's great to be an elite quarterback, and that's not really saying anything new, but I do think those next guys, like Baker Mayfield, he he's gonna get another shot started but it won't be that long of a shot you know what i mean it's not gonna be no one's gonna probably trade for him and be like he's our franchise quarterback guaranteed he's got to kind of prove it again which is weird to think what about the panthers the panthers seem like they're the ones that are like that are hosting an open house, and every house on the street is closing, and they're just not getting anybody involved at all. Matt Rule, there's pictures of Matt Rule giving Kenny Pickett the eyes.
Big time the eyes. There was also their GM, Scott Fitterer, who called Pickett over when he was doing his pro day so he could look at his hands.
And then Ben McAdoo is their offense coordinator and quarterback coach and ben mcadoo was like here hold this football for me and then in the video he's just staring at kenny pickett holding the football and just nodding his head like yeah oh that'll do that could do it yeah his hands grew by an eighth of an inch it did yeah he's a grower not a shower we love kenny we're big kenny podcast um anything else from the NFL free agency? It's been I feel like I just came up from air from March Madness. I was I slept like 11 hours on Monday night and I still am tired.
Yeah, I went to bed super early last night. So on Sunday night after we did the show, I went back to my hotel room and I couldn't get in on Saturday night.
My my door lock was broken to my room went back on uh sunday night tried to get in again my door lock was broken a second time they they had to send security up to uninstall and reinstall my door lock so i just sat down in the lobby for about an hour hour and a half waiting for them to do that so i'm basically on e what's up hank i'm very much on that's horrible yeah oh yeah it was bad it was it was uh quite and then basically like i had to just tell i couldn't be i there was nobody there for me to take my frustration out in real time because the security guard was trying to help me and it's not his fault the door is locked right everybody was trying to help me and i couldn't there was nobody for me to scream at i need somebody billy should have been there bill have been there. Well, he had St.
Patrick's Day for five days. Billy, are we down from the St.
Patrick's Day high from your White History Month excursion? Yeah, it's over. Finally a holiday for you.
Needed it. How much Irish for you? Around like over half.
Oh, nice. Over half.
That sounds like exactly 50%. Yeah, 65.
Oh, 65. Damn.
That's not even a fraction. What does the Matt Ryan trade to Indianapolis do for Sam Ellinger's stock? He needs some guidance in his first real starting season, so he'll just be a veteran who helps Sam really get it going.
Oh, okay, so Matt Ryan won't even start. Yeah, of course.
No, think they're giving Sam the Aaron Rogers treatment. Yeah.
He just needs to sit for four years. Then he gets in and he'll take over the league.
Exactly. Yeah.
It's a scary time. If you, if you need a quarterback and you're like you're you're a franchise, basically telling yourself you're a old quarterback away from being a Super Bowl team.
That's what the formula is now. Yeah.
Just get an old quarterback. And I'm in.
I've been sitting on the sidelines watching all this happen, being like, I think Justin Fields is my guy. I think.
I think. He gets his first full offseason in this new system.
Yes, but there's a whole group of fan bases, the Jets with Zach Wilson, the Jags with Trevor Lawrence, who are just sitting there and saying yeah no no we're good yeah i think we're good we're fine we don't need this so and maybe we do in two years we'll be right back into it um anything else jake the uh like any big picture tournament things that have come to you since since sunday night necessarily. There was a cool thread about St.
Peter's and just how insane their run is right now. Give it to us.
I like cool threads. Yeah.
Is this about the facilities? Yeah. Yeah.
Give it to us. Preposterous.
Yeah. Just insane.
Having some internet issues. Okay.
Got it. Yeah.
This fucking Pete scumbag. It's the Russians.
Yeah, the Russians. That's what he told me.
It's St. Petersburg.
Yeah. Yeah, so this is from Ryan Patrick Warner.
I think he used to be on staff there. Staff for two years.
Players could not blast music during team lifts because the weight room bordered on classes going on. Not physical education classes.
The weight room's wall literally bordered where Philosophy 101 was taught. Holy shit.
That's awesome. They should actually, Philosophy 101, any philosophy class should also have like a workout facility inside of it.
Yeah. The year after he left, they were supposed to play an ESPNU game against Manhattan.
Packed with students. Noticed boom lift on court during warm-ups and people mopping game was canceled due to leaking roof oh fuck okay uh the press conferences were held in a yoga slash spin studio downstairs there was a pool in yanatelli which is the name of their facility i believe that spu would rent to any paying customer a visiting coach walking downstairs post game would regularly encounter screaming kids in swim gear and random people in towels post-workout.
Holy shit. So yeah, like Saturday afternoon in February, they're playing a game at noon, and they come down and there's just kids with pool noodles.
This actually sounds a lot like the Bengals facility right now. This is incredible.
And the Bengals made the Super Bowl. So like, year of cheap franchises.
Year of the cheapsapskates. Let's go.
The offices routinely flooded because they're at top of the facility. A photo of the flooding in the offices.
Okay. It's crazy.
Loyola was supposed to come one year. There was no hot water in the building.
Players departed to the facility postgame to board the flight home to Chicago with long faces and no showers. Okay, that sucks.
Yeah. Yeah, a very stinky flight.
That's brutal. Canisius came once.
They arrived to find out the corridor outside the locker room was flooded due to a burst pipe. They really have some water issues there, don't they? Yeah.
Okay. And then from Iona, my second year at Iona from someone, during warm-ups at St.
Peter's, someone took a jumper, hit the rim, and the rim just fell off the basket.

40-minute delay.

Like a haunted house.

Had to get a new basket.

And this team is in the Sweet 16.

This team beat Kentucky and is in the same region as North Carolina, UCLA, and Purdue.

Unbelievable.

That's so funny.

How embarrassing is that for the person that bricked the shot so hard

that they broke the basket?

Yeah, retire.

Yeah, I think you've got to quit.

I wish that there was video out there of that because I would have so many good things to tweet at Russell Westbrook. Oh, man.
He would have cost you. Yeah.
I bet you Russell Westbrook could break a basket with a missed shot. Yes, absolutely.
Well, he doesn't usually hit the actual rim. Right.
It's more the back one. He would shatter it.
Yeah, Yeah. All right.
And then before we get to hot seat, cool throw.

Billy, your spreadsheet update from March Madness.

All right. So the spreadsheet has done a little better than I thought it would.

So we're in a good position already.

Okay.

What does that mean?

It means how much has it lost?

This feels like Billy's trying to sugar us up.

Well, you didn't give us the projection of what you thought it would be like.

So now you can just be like, in retrospect, I thought I was going to lose 90% of my money.

I only lost 89.

I'm up big.

Well, basically, before the tournament started, we put $1,000 into the original strategy.

Okay.

So then we saved some of that other money for adjustments.

St. Patrick's Day, five days of St.
Patrick's Day.

That's part of the process.

That's part of the process. So we made four new future bets for this next, this new scenario to adjust it.
So we put on all the original ones, and then we added 200 on the Kansas future, 150 on a Houston future, 100 on a UCLA future, and 100 on a purdue future okay so we have 500 left okay that we can use for anything so with all the bets currently placed here the outcomes what happens if st peter's wins that's a bad outcome okay all right that that so that would mean that we lost everything,300 of the 2,000.

Okay.

But not all of it.

Yeah, yeah, not all of it.

Go ahead.

So if Gonzaga wins, that's going to be down 1,000.

What?

Wait, so if the most likely outcome happens, we've lost half the money.

Right.

But in the future, we mitigate for it by putting the 500. That's like the emergency parlay.
That was the emergency parlay on Gonzaga. Basically, we're still far away.
But Gonzaga's going to be a favorite. Right.
But they could lose. They could.
I like how Billy – They absolutely could. Mark Few.
If one of his dogs gets a hold of the game plan. So basically, here's who we're rooting for.
Providence, Kansas, Michigan, Houston, Purdue, UCLA, North Carolina. What's the most we can make? Not the overall number.
Three of those teams are all in the same region. Right, and also not the overall number one in two seats.
Right. Arizona and Gonzaga.
But Jake, that also means if they're all in the same region, it means that one of them is going to make the final four. True.
It's fair. It's fair.
True. I think this is going to be a good one.
I think Billy actually is actually, now that I'm thinking about it, Billy has guaranteed the impossible to happen. Gonzaga's going to win a national title.
Philadelphia. Yeah.
He's going to like Gonzaga. The only way Gonzaga was ever going to win a national title was Billy was going to set up an entire betting strategy based on them not winning the national title.
Billy trying to execute this is like, if you took both Lenny and George from Of Mice and Men and rolled them into one character, like the planning of one of them, and then the execution of the big lummox. That's insulting.
Yeah, it was. I read that book.
It was. No, so basically there might be a situation where if, like, there could be a positive unless these three teams win, then we put a parlay on those three teams to win.
It might end up even. How are you going to parlay, though, again, Gonzaga being a huge favorite? Right, but I'll just incorporate that with other teams that we don't want to win.
For example, let's say we're in a situation where if St. Peter's has to play in and we don't want them to win, we parlay St.
Peter's winning with Gonzaga winning. But then St.
Peter's loses and Gonzaga wins. Right.
Then you lose to parlay. But then the person who beat St.
Peter's Who we have a positive outcome Might win and then they go on Right but I It feels like we're doing a trap All the way along to Gonzaga winning it all Yeah so basically we really need Gonzaga to lose What's funny about Billy's proprietary system Is that the outcome of it Is exactly the same as everybody else during March Madness, which is bet a lot, lose a lot, and then save up some money for a last-second big-shot parlay to try to make your way back to even. I think we're going to end up having Gonzaga minus the points in the title game, and they're not going to cover, and they're going to win.
That's probably it. Really, the worst situation is if Gonzaga goes all the way to the championship.
The best team in the country. I have a question, Billy.
Yes. What is the outcome where we get the richest and what is that number that we get? Michigan is $1,600.
Wait, so that would be $3,600?

Yeah, $3,600.

If Michigan wins, if Providence wins, we're $3,100, including the 2K. Good.
If Kansas wins, we're up $3,300. Okay.
$2,300. and then if Houston wins 900, 2800,

including what we had before so there are outcomes that are very feasible where we might walk away from this be like okay this this whole thing was just like minus 110 on one game but right that's the part that i always struggle with is like i don't know what i'm rooting for except for gaga to lose. Yeah.
But, for example, like Gonzaga could get eliminated. A lot of the negative outcomes get eliminated by other negative outcomes.
Okay. Wait, if it's a double, if our two worst nightmares come true at the same time, it's actually good? Yeah.
Okay. If it's Gonzaga and Arizona in the final, we'd lose everything.
Yeah. Is there a way that we would actually lose everything? Yeah.
No, Gonzaga and Arizona. We had some like $5 money lines.
In no situation do we lose all of the $2,000. That was the strategy.
What's the worst about? We've made $700 already, right? Or have won $700? We'll reinvest it. What's the worst? The worst is we have $700 in the end, so we lost $1,300.
Why wouldn't we put $700 on Gonzaga? Yeah, so then what we do is we come up with Parlay using that $700. But we don't have to right now.
Okay. All right.
Listen, I'm going to trust the system. It would just take away future possible winnings.
Let's say Gonzaga were to lose this weekend. Then we'd readjust.
Yeah. I think next readjustment would be Elite 8, maybe halfway through the Elite 8.
Okay. So we see what we're doing.
Yeah. So it'll be fun.
I like it. I mean, this is fun.
This is way too hard work. This isn't fun.
When you could have just bet one game. Yeah.
But it was a good exercise. No, but we don't know yet.
It might be a sound investment technique. Did you have a game that you loved? I didn't like any of it.
Okay. I'm sure you probably watched all of them.
No, when St. Peter's won, that was awesome.
Yeah. And you loved them, Moneyline against Kentucky.
Well, I had $5 on them, so we had $60, which paid for Kentucky's future.

Ah.

That's how it's really working.

That's beautiful.

Boom.

All right.

Genius.

Okay.

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That's the guy that's doing all the work for me?

No, no.

He just puts it all together.

I told him what to do.

No, we got a good system.

He looks over everybody.

You just need someone to look over it

and be like, is there any glaring mistakes?

He's like, yeah, this doesn't make sense.

He triple checks your math,

and then he also puts together the graphics

and tweets them all out for you

after you tell him exactly, precisely what to do.

Just shout out him.

I don't know who he is.

He won't tell me who he is.

I think he's like...

What if it's like, yeah, it's fucking...

Thank you. after you tell him exactly, precisely what to do.
Just shout out him. I don't know who he is.
He won't tell me who he is. I think he's like...
What if it's like, yeah, it's fucking Elon Musk. Could be.
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Henri? My hot seat is Carl Crawford. Oh, that's not a name we've heard in a long time.
Exactly. So I've been kind of following the situation just from the rap perspective.
Megan Thee Stallion, the tale as old as time, signed a bad record deal, blew the fuck up, and is now upset with the record companies trying to get out of it is now publicly tweeting being and and this is how i found out she tweeted carl talking about the owner of the record label which turned out to be carl crawford what carl i don't want me signed to your pill popping ass you talking about i ain't paid for a show and you sound slow on the artist i don't pay you directly maybe fight with the man you signed it and you might see some money you fucking powder head uh she's she's been going off she like did an album and then Carl it sounds like Carl Crawford's in the wrong they're trying to say that because on her album she did a lot of like interludes and talking yeah so they said that there was only like 26 minutes of actual music and so that doesn't qualify as an album and so she has to make another album before she can be done with her record deal so that part of it is like you've heard that story a million times Bring Back Rap Skits I used to love those Ludacris would have an entire song about him trying to take a shit That's basically what it sounds like she was doing but it's Carl Crawford is the owner of the record company that's what the mind mind-blowing part is. That is very mind-blowing.
Yeah. And he's a powder head? He's a powder head.
According to Megan Thee Stallion. Pill-popping.
He made 125 mil in his career, but apparently he's trying to make more off Megan Thee Stallion. Well, it sounds like he made more off of her, right? Yeah.
I mean, definitely. He's got a good eye for talent, clearly.
So, yeah, the rules are, like, it has to be 26 minutes worth of songs or more.

That's just what, it seems like they are going off of technicality of, like, they're just trying to squeeze as much out of her as they can. Couldn't she just make a really shitty album, just, like, sit down and have, like, a basic drumbeat going and then just say whatever comes to the top of her head? And then, boom, that's a song.
All right, new album's out right now. Check it out.
It sucks, but I want to get out of this deal. think that's what the carl crawford's uh record company is trying to say she did but saying like arguing that that's not does not justifiable enough i mean when you think about carl crawford's contracts the mlb guy knows how to negotiate you paid a lot of money for not being not that good of a player i was actually looking up i was on on the sport track looking up how much he made he made 145 but aren't they have like uh they it has the season and it has the awards he had one season of awards yeah he did 2010 he was a gold glove silver slugger and that's it and then he got the huge contract with the red socks and a huge contract with the dodgers holy shit 179 mil 179 not 149 I think we're we got to be on the mrs the stallion's side on this oh yeah yeah i mean it was just one of those i think coley was the one that that brought it to my attention but it was like i because i had been i had been seeing this like dispute kind of just on like the the rap like world star hip-hop accounts and stuff that i follow just knowing megan the stallion's got a contract dispute and then last night it was like it's with carl crawford damn That's That's crazy.
Free the stallion. Damn.
And then my cool throne are deadbeat dads. Nice.
Why are you looking at me? No, I'm not. Play cats in the cradle.
Maury got canceled. Oh, yeah, that sucks.
What'd he say? The show got taken off the air. Oh, oh.
Yeah. I'm OG canceling.
I love that Maury just made an entire career off of people getting so pissed off at each other that they wanted to embarrass each other on television yeah great show we were on it what a simple concept to have be like hey they don't know if this guy's the actual dad okay let's put him on national television and then reveal it we should actually we need to take over that concept maybe not us personally but somebody here at this company should just become the paternity show that him getting canceled is i mean i didn't know he was still going great credit to him yeah it's a formula it's like people love watching forensic files and people love watching the maury povitz show it's it's every episode is the same yeah and guess what? People are going to tune in. It's pretty much kids get sick and stay home from school.
And parents, there are people out there who either are retired or not working. And Maury is that void.
Bryce is right in Maury. You know what I want to do? This would be an interesting idea for a show.
Something new. If you followed up with all the families and then interviewed the children that were revealed on the paternity test and see how their lives turned out.
Yeah, I'm sure that wouldn't be depressing at all. Not great, yeah.
It could be good. Speaking of depressing, it made me feel very old.
I tweeted out the clip, and I got a lot of people being like, where is this from? Oh, yeah. Five years ago, even.
Yeah, but I always just assume things we've done as part of my take, like everyone follows, but it's like we haven't been doing it in a long time. Yeah, and I'm Maury.
All right, PFT, your hot seat, cool term. Great job, Hank.
Good job, Hank. Thanks.
Love being back in studio with you. I love being with you guys wherever we are.
Can't wait for Thursday night. Me neither.
Coach K. Game of the year? No.
Boom. Scared boom scared no i'm scared of the refs i think the refs are gonna fucking throw this for for texas for duke got it absolutely think that's what's gonna happen my hot seat is donald trump a t-man because t-man uh there's a new real estate king of the deals in town me you.
You remember on Fyre Fest two weeks ago? My landlord tried to jack up my rent $1,500 on me. I emptied the clip on him.
I power shifted on him. I'm basically on Shark Tank.
I talked him down. He's only raising the rent $1,400 on me now.
That's big, dude. That's huge.
That's $1,200 a year. My spreadsheet that I create for myself is likely more profitable than Billy's.
Yes. I just earned $1,200.
All you needed was something. We said that.
You just needed something. I actually came back to him and I asked him if I could get, I offered, I think, like, how about you just increase it $500 a month? So I asked for only 33% of what he was trying to get out of me.
And then he just came back to me and goes, my last and final offer is going to be an increase of $1,400. You can take it or move out.
Beautiful. I was like, done.
Beautiful. Sign me up.
You got something. That bitch, I fucking cucked the shit out of him in this negotiation.
He's missing out on a lot of money. $1,200.
What do you think I should spend it all? I'm going to spend it all in one place for sure. Oh, I think you have to reinvest it in the spreadsheet.
And build his spreadsheet? Yeah. And cash.
And cash infusion into the spreadsheet. Maybe a season-long MLB spreadsheet? Well, actually, that's not a bad idea.
Wins, losses? I do have to figure out what the team's going to be that I bet against every single game this year like I did with the Pirates last year. The Reds.
Made money. Could be the Reds.
Well, I actually, let me just say it right now, shouldn't be the Reds because the Reds are on my cool throne because if you look at their salary this year, they have a Hall of Famer as their sixth highest played player. Who's that? Ken Griffey Jr.

So, yeah, the Reds are up my cool throat.

Anytime you get a guy who's been in the Hall of Fame and retired for like 15 years as your sixth highest player, he's getting paid like $4 million until 2024.

That's incredible.

Good for KGJ.

KGJ.

Also, they're bringing-

We always called him that.

They're probably bringing back Tom Brenneman, or Tom Brenneman is probably going to get

a gig.

I don't know if always called him that.

They're probably bringing back Tom Brenneman, or Tom Brenneman is probably going to get a gig.

I don't know if you saw that.

He's been doing some interviews.

He's spent the last year and a half rehabbing himself, and he's been going to a lot of meetings

of local LGBT organizations, and just sitting and listening to what they have to say. He's been going to the gayest towns in America.
Yeah, he's just not saying anything derogatory while there. Yeah, just like he's got himself hooked up to like an electric shock collar.
And every time he wants to say it. From Key West to San Francisco, Tom Brenneman has not said anything offensive.
It would be great if he just... Urban Meyer.
Oh, yeah. Urban Meyer.
I just remembered. We forgot to talk about Urban Meyer.
He doesn't know who Aaron Donald was. That one's bullshit.
It was bullshit. That one's bullshit.
I think he was probably joking about... Wait, pretend I didn't say that.
Why? Oh, okay, that's Billy's. Okay.
Let's get Billy credit. You didn't say it.
No, no, no, it's fine. No, no, no.
We're talking about it later. My cool throne was going to be Kenny Pickett's hands,

but also Chevy Silverado's because one drove through a tornado this morning. I saw that.

Which is badass.

So badass.

Where do you think that guy was on his way to where there was a tornado on the road?

He was just like, fuck it.

Yeah.

I got this.

Probably, yeah, Billy, I know what that's talking about.

Probably crying.

Probably had a date.

Yeah.

Shut up, Budapen.

He called his mom on me. That's another early PMT thing that people probably don't remember.
Tried to chase a tornado, and he literally threatened to call his mother on me. My hot seat is fans because Yusef Nurkic threw a fan's phone.
It came out. Now, I don't know who to believe here.
It was said that the fan said something about his mother and his grandmother. His grandmother passed away from COVID in 2020.
But it just reminds everyone that if we just had my rule of every single player in every sport gets to pick out one fan a year and beat the ever-living shit out of them, sports would be more fun. They would.
there's been a recent pandemic of of players confronting fans right we're dancing around it yeah yeah let's do it there needs so it's like building up it's like the lead up to world war one right now it feels like it's a powder keg on the court and something's going to happen to kind of break it wide open so that they can do something to fix it yeah and i think you're right i think if I think if one fan gets the shit kicked out of him, I think this all stops. Yes.
Yes. All right, Billy, go ahead.
Your hot seat. My first hot seat is Jorge Masvidal.
He jumped his former opponent, Colby Covington, while he was at a steakhouse in Miami. That's just pretty crazy for fighters to actually just go hunt each other down.
I like that, though. After the fight.
There should be a hunting league where it's just like 12 guys sign up for it and they just hunt each other. On site, everywhere.
That's just the movie Tech. Yeah, but it's like coast to coast.
But you don't know who is looking for you. You just know who your target is and there's cameras following you.
That's a million-dollar idea right there, right and my other hot seat is urban meyer yes urban meyer well i mean it's just every couple months urban meyer has a story that we all get to make urban meyer jokes i love it it's just getting worse and worse and worse you could the aaron donald thing was bullshit i think he was probably like who's this 99 guy how did you stop him right like probably knew who aaron donald was after doing well maybe the funniest part was he said that he did a six-month deep dive on the nfl that sounds like carthy yeah yeah mike mccarthy yeah they just hung out and watched uh like tapes of red zone yeah they got pro football focus logins and didn't never logged in yeah so uh he's just basically being a dickhead to everybody the other two guys that they said it's like one of these things is not like the others. They said Urban Meyer didn't even know who Aaron Donald, Debo Samuel, or Jamal Adams was.
Yes, yes. Jamal Adams.
I think the source on this was probably Jamal Adams. Jamal Adams' PR team definitely threw that one in there.
I just, Urban Meyer, like, it's just so funny because we're now getting to a few people still online defending him.

And I love those people.

Oh, yeah.

They are just incredible.

Like the amount of evidence that Urban Meyer is a complete shithead is overwhelming.

Yet there are a few people who are just I had one guy yesterday who was who was touting all three titles in college football it's like are you a Florida and Ohio State fan or just an Urban Meyer fan one of those guys has a picture of him with Urban Meyer in his profile picture I know it because every time I say something about bad about Urban Meyer he's like you would say something like this lib yeah it's just a great I get libbed out yeah it's just a great like group of people on the internet who are standing so firm on a guy who like i mean it's pretty much been every two months there's been a story like this guy sucks yeah i agree with you though i hope those people never go away because they have to have somebody otherwise it's it's not fun anymore right but i think a new story is going to come it's going to be like a slow trickle of information because people see how well these articles do everyone loves reading about urban meyer being a dickhead it's the best so i hope the stories keep coming out with like new funny little anecdotes there was one guy that replied to it uh that was a former player i forget who it was but a former player of urban's at ohio state and he said when he was at ohio state urban would drive some of the players around sometimes to go to meet and greets. And he drove like the biggest asshole of all time.
They would get in his Audi and he would never stop at stop signs. He would blow through red lights, like didn't even come close to stopping and just speeding all around town to the point where his players were like, hey, coach, why are you driving like this? And he goes, well, because when I get pulled over, the interaction usually goes something like this.
Oh, wow, it's you, Coach Urban Meyer. Great season last year.
Yeah, thank you. All right, have a great day.
And then he'd drive away. So he was like bragging to people how he was literally above the law.
I love what a villain he is. Yeah, he's a power-hungry guy who has lost all his power.
So watching it fall on itself is very, very fun. I really think that the worst punishment that they could have had for him is not firing him, but just making him continue to coach and lose on the Jaguars.
And that's why he would go through those, I think the mental issues and the fake sicknesses that he would have would just be because his entire ego is built around him being successful and beating people, that when there's even just a small crack in that foundation of him starting to think maybe you're not as big a winner as you've been saying to yourself in the mirror for the last 20 years, he just crumbles. He doesn't know how to process it.
Losing is poison for him. It really is.
It is poison for his body. Alright, Billy, your cool throne? My cool throne is Hafthor Bjornsson.
This is not a well known storyline, but the mountain from Game of Thrones has had serious beef with a guy named Eddie Hall who's another fellow strongman. Is that the guy who did the crazy deadlift and bled out of his eyes?

Probably.

Probably did it once.

It was so sick.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So those guys have been beefing for years.

Over the weekend in Dubai, they had a boxing match that was pretty awesome.

It was the heaviest boxing match of all time.

They both cut down to fighting weight and fought.

What was their weight?

Hafthor Bjornsson was about 350 pounds.

So not the heaviest. Ruffin Rowdy has said heavier.
Vito Torpedo was like 450. He fought someone that was like 500.
Professional sanctioned fight. So what did you fight in? I actually fought professional.
Oh, okay. But the other guys on the...
The only time I had to do that... I thought Ruffin Rowdy wasn't professional.
I'm confused now.

It's amateur, but because Jose

had to fight professional, I had to go professional to fight

Jose. Oh, you ranked up.
Yeah.

Yeah, which it was ridiculous. That's why he can't

fight with his hands. Yeah, well, now

he can because it's been over a year. Right.

So, um...

That's why I went to St. Patrick's Day because you can...

This is Billy's, this is Billy's, like,

divorce moon where you just go out with your friends

because you can finally fight after being cooped up for so long.

No, but the craziest part was Hathor Bjornsson cut down from over 400 pounds

at his lightest, and he's pretty jacked right now.

He's 350 all muscle.

Who won?

Hathor Bjornsson.

The mountain?

Yeah, but Eddie Hall was just throwing haymakers.

It's a terrible boxing fight to watch if you like good boxing, but it was a crazy spectacle. And I can't believe those guys were landing punches at like 350 pounds and their faces just weren't exploding.
It's pretty insane. That is nuts.
I'm going to have to watch it. You should give him swords next time.
Finish this off. And then film it and then put it on HBO.
My hot seat's the Toronto Maple Leafs. They are, they have jerseys designed by Justin Bieber debuting tonight on Wednesday night.
Now, they're not that bad this season. They're tied for third place looking at the standings now but I don't know.
This is a perfect opportunity for the Bieber curse to be born if they start losing. I'm going to look at the Biebs.
Can you curse Maple Leafs? They're pretty cursed. Yeah, they haven't come out of the first round since 2013.
I'm drawn with the Biebs. But it could be the Bieber blessing if they keep winning.
I like that. Oh, I see the jerseys.
Then their hashtag is going to have to be just like, I believe. I believe.
They're just wearing not their colors. Okay.
They look like Steelseys. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay.
And my cool throne is Al Michaels. So he got the bag from Amazon.
Thursday Night Football. Unfortunately, this means the end for the best duo, Al and Chris.
Wow. No love for a friend Joe Buck.
You really hate Joe, though. I think Al and Chris.
Oh. No, I love Joe.
Oh. Do you? Well, you have to.
All right. Clearly.
We're on the top of a mountain. Al and Chris are about to fall off the mountain, and Joe Buck is on the other side about to fall off the mountain.
You can only save one. Joe, because he's a friend of the program.
I don't think you mean that. Why are you going to kill Al and Chris? I mean, you're going to have that reaction either way.
It's kind of crazy because Chris is a friend of the program. So is Chris.
Yeah, I'm more of a play-by-play guy. Yeah, so who gets killed? I use my strength to grab both.
Oh, wow. Double sportsmanship.
What a hero. Okay.
So, yeah, he's going to be calling Thursday on Amazon with Kirk Herbstreet. Yeah, I like it.
I'm interested. I think they'll get along well.
They seem like if you put those two, like if you put them in a mason jar together like they're bugs, they'd probably become fast friends. Yeah.
Herbie can get along with anyone, and Al is the consummate professional, like you said. Who gets Oswald the Lucky Rabbit? Is he still involved in this trade? I have no clue.
Well, that's the cartoon that was traded to ESPN from NBC for Al Michaels. Oh.
When they originally got it from Sunday. Go look up that.
You'll love that. That's a fun little fact.
All right. So let's get to our interviews.
Good job, Jake and Billy. We have Stanford Steve, our good friend Stanford Steve.
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All right, we now welcome on our very good friend. It is Stanford Steve.
We're going to talk some Sweet 16 picks and also our plan for New Orleans because he has booked his flight. He will be there.
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So, Steve, let's start with the tournament so far. You were touting around.
I saw you. You're a man of many talents.
You do hits everywhere. You had 21-team list of teams that could win the championship.
How many of those are still alive? 16. Whoa.
Not bad. Wait.
No. I'm kidding.
I no i'm kidding i'm kidding i don't mean that you have all of them yeah i did not have saint peters on the list i was happy on because i revised it on march 1st uh and then uh before that on march 1st i took off that list michigan state indiana marquette ohio state, and Alabama. So we got rid of the good teams that could not do it.
So yeah every other team besides St. Peter's was on that list is alive and still kicking here.
That's pretty impressive Steve. Before we get to more basketball I did want to ask you about your pre-media career because it's something that I don't think that we've talked about on this show at all.
I was reading your bio today. I saw that you were the national high school player of the year in football.
He was sick. He was recruited in Notre Dame? Yeah.
Like you were the number one player in high school football in the entire country? Class of 96, yep. What happened? Yeah.
I don't know if we have that long to talk about it. We might have changed positions, peaked out, injuries, lack of focus, school, not a lot of discipline.
A combination of a lot of things. But, yeah, I was a quarterback wide receiver safety in high school.
And then I went to Stanford as a tight end and the guys were better than me when I got there. I never played before and guys were better than me.
Were you like good enough in high school where people were dropping bags off for you? Were you getting recruited like sneaky ways? Oh, no. We never got to that point.
Did have a couple like it was it was right at the beginning of, like, caller ID. But, like, the old caller ID was, like, when you had the machine and you could tell it said the city under it.
So it had the number and the city. So, like, there was these anonymous calls where you could tell it was coaches, but they were acting, like, shady, like, hey, is anybody home? And I'm like, what the heck heck is going it's like uh you know i won't say the college the hometowns of the colleges but it was it was pretty funny to hear guys try and start being around the bush like trying just trying to get any inside information uh but uh it was it was a long time ago yeah um and it's there were no bags there was no bags exchanged recruited at notre dame yeah so notre d.
So Lou Holtz would, like, call you up and be like, oh, this must be the wrong number. Wait, wait a second.
Is this Steve Coughlin? Let me talk to you for a second. Well, Lou couldn't get away with it because of the voice.
And the only person that could do it, Lou Holtz, is Scott Van Pelt. So I knew it wasn't Lou.
He had people do that. But, yeah, Lou, I mean, that was actually the year he ended up going and uh and and leaving um they notre dame was in a mess i could tell i went to camp there before my senior year and you could just tell the coaching staff was in disarray um and notre dame was a lot older of a campus than i really wanted to be around so uh that's why i didn't i didn't really like it i mean if you had had your career as notre d Steve, you'd be the biggest douchebag ever, and no one would ever.
Like, having Notre Dame Steve on? I think it'd have to be Notre Dame Coughlin, right? Yeah, just brutal. We don't want Notre Dame Steve on.
No. Also, I fucked up at the start.
I should have said. Okay.
Last year, Notre Dame Steve came on this show and gave us Baylor as the winner before the whole entire tournament started. So he needs a round of applause for that.
He was the one who gave us Baylor. So who was your pick this year? I picked Villanova in the bracket, and then it took me all of two days to take Ohio State money line against them the other day.
So the bracket really loses credibility in a matter of moments. I feel like everybody has their moment.
You know, I heard Jake talking on your last one just about how fast, you know, the bracket was blown up on Thursday. But when you do have a good bracket, then it's something to hang on to, right? Yeah's like, yeah, but I got them in my bracket.
All right, but what does that mean? How much money can you win on the bracket? We want that instant cash. Listen, I'd love to get into PFT's talk.
I mean, just hearing how many live bets you have put in on this tournament, I'd love to know the percentage that you have hit. So my live bets are actually hitting at a much higher clip than the bets that I put in ahead of time.
I'm like locked in. Now, when it comes.
So you're a gut guy. You're going with what you see with your gut, and then you're good to go.
I'm not even counting. I mean, maybe if I, I should probably count these, but I'm not counting the like plus a thousand money line plays that I made, you know, at nighttime, at the end of the day, just trying to find a win from TCU.
I'm taking a flyer on those. But the ones that I'm doing after five, six minutes, I bet a first half over, or I bet a second half spread.
I'm doing okay at those. I was telling Big Cat on Friday, after the first two days of the tournament, I bet on every single game, and usually two to three times on every single game, and I ended up after the first two days of the tournament, I bet on every single game and usually two to three times on every single game.
And I ended up, after the first two days, exactly even from where I started. And to me, that is a massive win.
I essentially got two days of fun for absolutely free. It's like playing blackjack for five hours and you walk away with 50 bucks.
You're like know what that was still awesome oh that's it that's an incredible run yeah i just can't get over the idea and the mindset you guys four straight days with all you knuckleheads together just firing there has to be some point where you're like man i'd really like something but then everybody just talked me into this one damn i was right you know like it feels like or you just get so drunk you don't remember those times. Yeah, the only thing that happens with the live streams, there are some group bets, but for me, it's personally just by the end of the night, like Saturday and Sunday night, I looked and I just had, like, way too big of a bet on the last game.
Like, that Memphis Gonzaga over I needed for my nutsack. Like Arizona TCU I needed for my lungs like so that that's part of it we responsibly gamble but you you definitely get to a point where it's like oh there's only one game left let's let's fire a nuke at this game and hope it works out so uh let's talk about this sweet 16 though so yeah I I mean the Thursday games are incredible let's start start with unbelievable yeah incredible games let's start with texas tech duke i want to bet on texas tech very badly my problem is and i said this before the tournament this is the game that the refs dictate how texas tech plays defense because we know they're very aggressive and if if duke's gonna get a whistle at any point in the tournament, it's this game.
And that's the thing. Do you think it's crazy to hold back because of that? I can see where you're coming from.
To me, being a Duke fan that I am, this game really reminds me of 2009 when Villanova finally broke through and beat Duke for the first time in 50 years. And they did it because they just, just crushed them defensively.

And that's what really worries me for Duke in this situation is the use they

have.

And just the ultimate tough guy mentality that Texas tech plays with,

like they are not going to get bullied.

I see what you're saying with the whistle.

And I understand a lot of people start watching college basketball for the

first time in March and say the refs suck. The refs suck in every sport, like give me a sport where they're good.
All right. Maybe hockey because you don't notice them.
But really like Texas Tech in this situation because of the experience, toughness, and I think they could just make Duke crumble being with the youth and inexperience. You know what it is in college basketball? You're right.
The refs suck everywhere. I think they definitely suck in college basketball for two reasons.
One is a charge call is hard to figure out game to game. And two, it's actually not on the refs.
It's on the coaches. Coaches coaching so scared when a guy gets two fouls.
Like, even in the Memphis game that I just talked about, Memphis, there's like five minutes left. And both of their bigs are on the bench because they have four fouls what are we what are we saving them for like that and you'll see a guy get two fouls I get it you don't want him to get his third but like even Wisconsin on against Iowa State Wall gets his second foul like five minutes in the game doesn't play the rest of the half that makes no sense to me that you like you have to you have to trust your players at some point so I part, people complain about the rest, but it's really the coaches not being able to figure out how to manage their players better.
I have a theory that can help all, especially the block charge in college basketball. Next year, the refs should just call every block charge a block, but don't tell anybody they're doing it, and then people will stop trying to take them, and then we're good.
Yeah, and also an easy fix for college basketball. They should add a sixth foul, and if you think like, oh, because the game is shorter, that's fine.
Make the fifth foul be like – or make the sixth foul be automatic, you know, two shots of the ball or something like that. You know what I mean? You can add a penalty to it, but at least – I always go back.
The most memorable time when I was like, fuck these rules, was Florida-Ohio State National Championship when Joe Kim Noah and Greg Oden both didn't play in the first half because they got two fouls. It's like, what are we watching this for? What are we watching this for? That was brutal.
Brutal. So you're on Duke in this game? Or no, you're on Texas Tech? No, no, Texas Tech for sure.
All right, the Villanova. You mentioned Villanova.
You're a national champion. Michigan's a great story.
Juwan Howard tried to hug that guy to death, that kid. I just think Villanova, they're the most dependable tournament team year in and year out, where even that Ohio State game, Ohio State gets it close, and it's like guess what Villanova does? They make all their

free throws. They never ever waver.

They're so, so dependable. Who do you have in that one?

I

look at the points with Michigan because

I do think the size

will hurt Villanova. The problem

is how will Michigan defend

that five-out offense where Villanova

just throws every guy outside the three-point

line and just throws it around until they get the

matchup they want, and that guy goes to the hoop.

Obviously, they'll try and put Dickinson on an island. You mentioned the free throws.
We have two things I think that are interesting in this term. We have the best free throw shooting team in Villanova, and then Arkansas is a team who has taken the most and made the most free throws, so that's something to keep an eye on when we're talking point spreads, because you always like to have those sides.
But I think the discipline of Villanova and knowing that they just, like you said, they just always end up with the ball in the guys in the right guys' hands when you need it most. You know, they cut it to two and then right down, they get a three-point bucket to go up five right away and take all the momentum out of Ohio State.
So I think I have to trust Villanova in this situation, but with the points, I think it's around five or so, I think I would take Michigan because I think it's going to be that close to the game. So Michigan just beat Tennessee.
If you're a Tennessee fan, you could say that they overachieved to a certain extent during the season this year. They were a great team during the regular season and obviously during the SEC tournament.
Are you happy with Rick Barnes? Or are you at a point where you're like, I can't stand this guy in March? I'm a guy where I don't judge a coach on his success in March. I don't think it's fair.
I think it's that crazy of a tournament. Like, you know, Matt Painter's still alive.
Plenty has been made about him in his, you know, tenure at Purdue because of what his teams have not done in March. But then I go back and look, like, I remember in a Sweet 16 game like this, he played Duke and he lost in that game.
Duke won the national championship that year, a couple of years ago think about the Virginia game. That team could win a national title, and a buzzer shot goes off, and they lose.
That team was that. It had that trajectory going, but that's how fast it ends up in March.
So with Rick Barnes, I know everybody's going to throw the point spread and what his record is against the point spread, but his teams get out. They shot two of 18, I believe, from three.
That's why they lost. And that's what has to happen in March.
You have to avoid those games. You have to avoid those games, and you have to avoid the games where your opponent makes 15 threes.
And sometimes you just can't do it. It's against you.
But what did you guys say last week? 25 and 25? That's his record? Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, even when he had KD and DJ Augustine didn't do anything. Like, it's fun.
But he had him for one year. He had one year, and it was one game, and they got beat by USC and Tim Floyd.
He's a pretty good player. I think it's not – so you're right.
I totally agree. Judging on the tournament, the tournament's so fucking difficult.
That's why I always say if you have a team in the tournament, you win one game, celebrate, because it's hard to do. I do think there's something to be said about,

there's not a knock on Rick Barnes,

but other coaches are just built better for in-game adjustments,

for the tournament setting, for the quick turnaround.

Like, I look at a guy like Mick Cronin,

I think he does an unbelievable job in-game of making adjustments,

where there's some teams who, let's roll it out

and let's run our system and hope it works.

And sometimes it won't. Well, the problem with Tennessee PFT, I remember we were talking about this last year when you guys had me on and you were all in on Illinois.
You saw them win the Big Ten tournament. They were rolling.
And that's why I always, with the bracket and everything, I try and avoid those red-hot teams. And Tennessee was one of them.
Everybody was bitching about their seed. They should have been a two.
They should have had Duke's line. But then when I looked at it, I'm like, they kind of got a better draw than Duke, I thought.
You know, the way they were playing and all that. So it's just amazing how it always lines up.
And when it is your team and you had a lack of success and not getting to a Final Four in a while, yeah, I could see it eating at you very easily. The Illinois thing is a perfect example, too, because I know a lot of Illinois fans are saying, like Brad Underwood, they have questions now.
Illinois got a draw last year where they played a top 10 Ken Palm team in Illinois-Chicago. They got a draw this year where the five seed in their region is Houston, which by all metrics is the fourth best team in the country.
That's just really shitty luck. You know what I mean? You could argue that Brad Underwood could have done a better job, but they basically got the worst possible draw two years in a row for their second-round matchup.
Totally agree. And I just – you watch them all the time, Big Cat.
And it's like Illinois, they're good, it was awesome, but their bad was just like how did they lose this game I think you know and it just they're just so inconsistent and who was on the floor at what time it was just it was just weird to watch all year and that's why I didn't I didn't like him especially going against Houston uh knowing that the men that they have I mean they'll they'll try and suffocate you love Houston I know I you have to love you because you're a guy who like when it all you're you're very smart about football and basketball handicapping but when it's all said and done you're the type of guy who likes to go on the court or the field before the game and just like size up some dudes and be like yeah those guys are just bigger and stronger and they want it more well i, I just, I like the persona of Kelvin Sampson.

Like he brought it up like three times in every interview during the game

about how they got screwed because they played the last game for,

was it Thursday night or Friday night?

Friday night?

Friday night, yeah.

And then they played the first game Sunday.

Like he just kept bringing it up every time.

And you could tell he told his team like, fuck this. We're going to win this game.
Like I don't want any excuses. Let's take this as motivation and go.
And, you know, Coburn was done by the 10-minute mark of the second half. It was amazing how hard Houston made him work to post up.
And I just thought it was funny. Like Reggie Miller and Bonner are on the call and they're like, got to coburn here gotta get the ball like every possession they said get the ball to coburn and the lead is just increasing because houston was making shots on the other end and when they do that they're as tough as there is i i like houston this game too because i feel like uh arizona you know they just got done playing tcu now they're playing houston those are two of the same exact types of teams that are just going to beat the shit out of you for a while.
So nothing was easy for them against TCU. It was a really physical game.
They're exhausted from that. And now they have to go up against Houston right now.
I love Houston. That's the late game, right? Yes.
Yeah, I love Houston, that late game. I look at Houston.
I'm not sure Arizona, like Arizona, first year head coach, awesome success. Benedict Matherin is my favorite player in college basketball.
I just, I just love everything he brings to the table, but the versatility Houston has to defend and the, and they have multiple bigs that they, that you need against Arizona. That's what makes Arizona from a matchup standpoint has everything, But Houston has a lot of versatility where they can switch off guys.
Arizona makes their living with that high-low game. You'll see Coloco come out, dump it down, or the other guy, and he dumps it down to Coloco.
Unbelievable first half against TCU. But I think TCU found something in the Arizona defense where there was a lack of switching going on late in that game.
You kept seeing them go pick and roll, and they were just trying to find the right matchup with it. So I'm interested.
If Houston can make shots, they'll win this game. I'm just not sure they can make as many shots to keep up with Arizona.
But I would lean Houston in this game. And Gonzaga, Arkansas, how many foul shots is Drew Timmy going to miss for me? Well, here, this one, like, I mean, you guys know Mus, we talked, everybody goes on, everybody shows, like, no one, no one loves being the underdog more than Mus, right? Like, you watch him coach against Vermont and New Mexico State, and you could just see the tension, like, him being a favorite, couldn't stand it because, you know, then you factor in the ugliness of the game and how those other two teams were dictating tempo, and it got sort of hazy there.
Like that stuff drains him. And now, like this week, he's a nine-point underdog.
He's probably watching – you know, his team's probably watching Hoosiers. He's got every underdog story in the world going like you know everything's pinned up in the locker room uh multiple underdog stories on the flight out uh to San Francisco so I look at Arkansas as playing a lot looser and free uh in this game as an art and Gonzaga is you know you got it you saw with Memphis you have to make shots against them because they are going to come out

and put the ball in the basket.

I was blown away with Nevhard, the point guard for Gonzaga.

To play 40 minutes and then go make four of four free throws

in the last 25 seconds, that's impressive stuff, man.

And that's why, you know, everybody talks about Timmy.

I think it's a huge game for Chet because this is, you know every you know who has the pros right in the sweet 16 who's got more pros you're gonna hear people give me the team with more pros this is a game where chet has to stick out uh because arkansas has multiple bigs that they could put on them and when you watch gonzaga this year when they've had problem against duke against st mary's it's been teams that have multiple multiple bigs to match up with Timmy and Chet. Just kind of offset it, even if it's just scoring on the other end and making them work on the other end.
So Arkansas has that. I just don't know if Arkansas can make enough threes.
We know they'll get in transition. We know they're going to go to the free throw line.
But can they make enough threes? I don't think so to win the game, but I like them to keep it close and cover the spread. We need a J.D.
Notay game. You need a J.D.
Notay game. He hasn't had it.
He hasn't had it. Where's this game being played? That game is going to be played in San Francisco.
Okay, so it's not in Buffalo. I heard, by the way, that the gym was cold in Buffalo.
And so that's why everybody was missing. Either that or maybe Must Bust was just like, you know what, I'm sick of being favored in a game.
I'm going to make sure that we win this game but look really pathetic doing it offensively. So that way we're definitely going to be underdogs the next round.
Yeah. You could just – I mean, his face during the game and then the release when he's cheering at the crowd after the game is only what he could do.
It's just funny to see. Has anybody recovered from shoulder surgery faster than Eric Musselman? No.
His hands are just like full range of motion right now. He's probably diving in practice.
Yeah, he definitely is. Loose ball drill.
All right, so Friday's not as great of a slate just in terms of names, but just give me your best bet on Friday because everything will change. You've got to bet on Thursday, and then once we get through Thursday, then you got to readjust.
The famous story is always when Steve, he was out to dinner with us in Madison a couple years ago and I stood up from the table, from the dinner table to go try to get a bet in for like a, I think it was like. It was a third bet on a Friday night college football I think it was like FIU

versus someone who was I got fucked with the

they returned an onside kick

to fuck me and Steve just goes

you don't have to bet every

game and Dave and I just look at him like

yeah you do so

yeah but you select

in a room that you guys are taking care

of things and I'm like wow I feel pretty

small right now

alright so give us your best bet for Friday knowing that you don't have to bet every game. I'm dying to see how Mick Cronin takes advantage of North Carolina's lack of defense, right? He's done it.
I remember last year, I think it was Sweet 16 against Michigan. Michigan looked like the best team in the country on that role, and they had Wagner and all those guys going, and then UCLA just diced them up, mucked it up, and they advanced.
Can he get, like, Baycott to come out and get, you know, Hawkins going inside? You know, he'll have a game plan. I just – I'm dying to see what it is.
The problem is I don't think UCLA makes enough threes. And Carolina, when they got it going, they're as good as Arizona or Gonzaga offensively, at least when I watch them.
I mean, Manik, you know, he might have the best run going of anybody in the tournament, and he lost 10 minutes because he threw an elbow. But shooting-wise, they're as good as anybody.
And the problem with UCLA is when they miss, they're not getting a rebound. UCLA, I mean, I think I saw they have like over 40 rebounds in five of the last seven games.
Like that's nuts. And UCLA doesn't have the biggest guys.
So UCLA has to shoot, I'd say over 50, 52%, something like that. I'm not sure they can.
So I would take North Carolina in that game. Okay.
All right. And then the last thing we got to talk about New Orleans about New Orleans so oh yeah yeah I got a bunch of things we gotta get to here yeah so yeah you start I mean we gotta do a date we're gonna do a man date I think we are going to try to set it up so if anyone in New Orleans listening to this right now has their best wings like I'm not talking about your favorite I'm saying the wings that will blow you away we need that recommendation and we need it soon because i think the plan is we're going to bring the podcasting equipment to a wing place and we're going to have a wing date with titus and you and me and pft and then we'll podcast after and it will be great but we need the best possible wing people can come up with.
And I don't want peanut butter and jelly wings and all that type of stuff. I want buffalo wings.
PFT, you're with me with that? I want buffalo sauce. I like a little variety from time to time if there's a dry rub or a smoked barbecue option, but for this instance, you're right.
I'm looking for hot wings. Hot chicken wings, cold beer.
It's not rocket science. The best you got in New Orleans.
I know you got the cold beer. Show me where the wings are.
I'm very much looking forward to this. I've been looking forward to this, honestly, for the last, what, three years? When was the first wing date when I was doing ecstasy in Hong Kong? It was Minnesota.
Minneapolis. Yeah, Minneapolis.
It was, yeah, and Steve and I went on the date, just the two of us, and it was phenomenal. It was a great wing place.
Also, I think last time we were in New Orleans, I tried to wrestle Stanford Steve. Oh, that's what I wanted to bring up right here.
Okay. Let's start right there.
We are going back to New Orleans where the scene of the crime was, I believe it was like 20 minutes to a half hour before you guys did those award-winning interviews with Joe Burrow and Coach O. I think it was like a half hour before that.
PFT standing in the middle of Bourbon Street challenging me to a three-point stance right in the middle, and it was a beautiful thing. Beautiful thing.
You didn't want any. And we're going back there.
I didn't like your chances. At that state, you had gotten away.
I had to do things postgame. You had a way more of a head start on me.
I'll just say that. It was quite a crew, too.
I think it was us. I think Chris Long, Russillo, Anthony Rizzo was with us.
I think Cutler was with us for a little bit too. It was a hodgepodge of a crew just blacked out on Bourbon Street.
You know what it was? Now that I'm remembering the crew, it was the fact that I was literally standing around everyone who was 6'3". Everyone except for me in that group was 6'3", and probably in the 230 to 290 range.
And at that point i'm like i gotta do something about this show i belong i know i'm gonna punch the biggest guy in the prison yard yeah we'll do it again we'll have a rematch all right yeah got it so for the wings i'm sure you know with the popularity of, people are going to reach out. But like you said, BFT, it doesn't have to be crazy, simple buffalo.
Because I'm a guy, when I go out for wings, they ask for ranch or blue chase, I say more buffalo sauce. That's just me.
I love it. Extra sauce to dip it in.
I love it. I'm so excited for this trip.
All right. Well, so Steve.
How do you think Titus is going to do? He's intimidated right now. we have to be nurturing what he's like a like a shy dog that you have to invite over by sticking the back of your hand out and letting them smell that and come to you because he's he's intimidated by the fact that he is accepting a wing date right now i think he's gonna do fine i think afterwards he's probably gonna like puke his guts out just out of nerves and wings and be like, I'll never do that again.
I hope those guys liked me. It's just weird because I've been thinking about it.
He and I are almost complete opposites. He's skinny.
He's a good shooter. I think I made two threes in my high school career.
I don't know. It's just every kind of – Yeah.
He likes tofu burgers. I like cheeseburgers.
It's just – I don't know how it's going to make. It's never really happened before, so it'll be fun to find out.
It would be – I just imagine him bringing a note card of talking points and then going to the bathroom over and over and being like, wait, is he doing Coke right now? No, he's just trying to find, he's just trying to find topics that guys like to talk about. You know what this is? This is like you and you and Mark Titus together are like, I love you, man.
You're teaching him how to become a bro. Okay.
Pulling him out of his, pulling him out of that, that clean cut shell a little bit. Yeah.
It'll be fun. I think Wings are the great equalizer.
We'll have a good session. Afterwards, we'll be dealing with it.
It'll be maybe the most heartburn in any single podcast afterwards. Yes.
Yeah, Tom should probably sponsor it. Speaking of Wings, I don't think your producer should be invited for his performance of the last time we had Wings., our intern, Billy.
Yes. Yeah.
Oh, no, Hank just popped in. Do you think Hank should be invited? Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure.
Yeah, you love – Not Billy. Steve and Hank get along very well.
Billy's not invited, so that's good. Billy's not a producer.
Yeah. In any sense of the word.
He doesn't even produce work. But, you know – He produces excuses.
Yeah, so he's a producer of excuses. So Steve was so upset at Billy when we went on the road to the Super Bowl and we tried the 72-ounce challenge.
We went to that Amarillo Steakhouse. When Steve saw Billy's performance, he was fucking disgusted with it.
Just ashamed that Steve had to call himself the same species as billy remember it started too with the hot wings yeah in yeah when he was sitting with us and he watched it firsthand and was like is this guy serious all this hype and he gets one wing down you have any recommendations for billy as how he can improve his eating yeah i'd like to see him I just want to see how many McDonald's cheeseburgers he can eat in an hour. Whoa, Billy, what do you think? I think I could definitely get over one in an hour.
Double digits would probably be the over-under. Ten.
Ten? Yeah. Oh, you've got to eat more than 10.

He's already disappointed.

I'm trying to think. No, let's flip it back.

You eat two at a time

for every 15 minutes. Come on.

I'm trying to think of the sizing of the

average cheeseburger.

Steve, they're tiny.

Steve, tell us. You give us the

number that would get you

to respect Billy again.

He's thinking. 14.
Okay. So there it is.
If he eats 14 cheeseburgers in an hour from McDonald's, you have Stanford Steve's respect. Steve's really just seen me at my worst.
So, like, I can't. When would you like him to see that? I need to just.
I I might have to take that one on What instance do you think that Steve should see you in To make him impressed with you? That's a very good question It's a very very good question When I'm in my element Yeah Unlike the last several times Actually Billy if you can do 14 We should do a video Billy attempts another food challenge food challenge trying to earn earn a man's not even a competitive eater it's just like i put myself in these situations yeah you can't be a competitive eater when you're going to eat for all you can eat steak and i see you drinking steins of beer before like you can't that's not gonna add up and you saw how that it didn't uh you know, as a not a competitive eater, I would have known that the carbon dioxide buildup in your stomach really is not conducive. You get really scientific with it when your response would just be like, yeah, I shouldn't have gotten loaded at 9.30 in the morning before I tried to eat a steak.
Yeah, yeah. Maybe don't do that.
But if I had finished it, it would have been sick. It would have been legendary.
A lot of people have finished it just straight up. No beer.
Yes, Billy, that's the point. If you had finished it, it would have been better than you not finishing it.
But there's so many YouTube videos of people just finishing it with no beer and water. It's great, too, that we're now just totally dismissing the part.
The wing thing was the worst. You did one wing.
You didn't even do one wing. Yes.
Yeah. I think I was set up.
I think there's gasoline in those. Yeah.
Yeah. All right.
Well, Steve, we're looking forward to New Orleans. We appreciate you coming on.
Oh, wait. One last thing.
St. Peter's Purdue.
Tell me a reason why. Give me a reason why I should be able to lie to myself about betting on St.
Peter's. Because I'm going to do it, but just give me a reason to make myself feel okay about doing it.
I saw a stat because I remember I think I bet against both of the ones that happened. There's been two 15 seeds to go to the Sweet 16.
Yeah, to the Sweet 16. The last one was Gulf Coast.
No, Oral Roberts. Oh, no.
Yeah, Oral and Gulf Coast. And they both lost, but they both covered double digits, I believe.
That's what the stat was. Oh, okay.
So, lean St. Peter's.
Yeah. Love it.
Love it. I just can't wait to see Edie against that team.
Yeah. Like, Edie against St.
Peter's. It's just going to be funny to see.
Edie against Doug, yeah. So I'll tell you already what's going to happen.
Hank's going to bet Moneyline on St. Peter's.
If I bet Moneyline on St. Peter's, they're going to lose.
If me and Big Cat don't bet Moneyline on St. Peter's, and Hank's the only one that does, they're going to win.
And then Hank's going to walk around strutting. Hey, he's going to be a peacock.
Yeah.

Alright. Well, tell Hank

I miss him. Go Duke.
Alright.

Thanks, Steve. We'll see you in two weeks.

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Okay, we now welcome on our good friend.

Haven't talked to him in a while.

It is Coach Tom Crean.

He is currently a free agent. We're going to get him a job or if he wants to be back in the media because he excelled at that.

Maybe that too.

Coach, how are we feeling?

I feel good.

It's great to be with you guys. I've been looking to it yeah it's um it's great to see you uh we're gonna talk some ball but first what you know obviously things didn't go great at the end in at georgia but what are we thinking going forward i mean you were incredible on on tv but i know that your passion is always to coach um you give us the marching orders and we'll take them and we'll push it whichever way you want.
Well, I'm bored to death lately and that's outside of seeing some basketball. I saw Duke Michigan State the other day.
I saw some practices. I'm going to go to a G League game tonight.
I mean, I definitely want to get back to work. I definitely want to coach.
I mean, you can't have the season that we had and not want to get back. We had so many things going in the right direction.
COVID hits and it affects everybody. It affected us in a big way.
We had some transfers and we had some injuries this past year. We had some close games, but we just couldn't get over the hump.
We could never get traction. So, like, I want to get in a situation where we're doing that again.
But at the same time, I enjoy TV. I enjoy, like, right now, like I'm watching tape, like I'm preparing for the games, right, in the sense of the Sweet 16 teams.
And just to keep yourself fresh, you learn things, you have a notebook for how you would defend somebody, you have a notebook for all the things that you like, that you see. And so I'm trying to stay real well-versed in that.
So I'm for best option available right now. That's what I'm – I'm going to choose the best player available in the draft.
Right? I want the best option available. Yeah, well, you should get some hats out on the table so you can pick the one and be be like pick up the CBS one or the Fox one like I'm back guys have you given any thought whatsoever to maybe NBA maybe doing something at the pro level I have I mean I think I think um I mean I love the pro level and uh in the past I've had a couple chances to interview for head jobs and early on career, I had a couple of chances as an assistant.
But I haven't given it a lot of thought as actually that being the career path. I mean, I'd be open to that.
But at the same time, I enjoy being a head coach. And but I do I do love the NBA.
Like I'm going to get to the G League game today, College Park in Maine, get there early with my son and a guy in my staff staff david gale and like just watch like how they train people because my son riley was with me for the last three years he gave up baseball after his first year here to coach and i know he wants you know he's 22 he's graduating in may and i know he truly wants to get back into it and you couldn't have a much bigger fan i know you've got a lot of fans, but Riley's in that fan group either. If you remember meeting him a couple of years ago, but he still wears his shirts.
But to me, I love the game, right? I love coaching it. I love the practice and the development part of it.
And again, after a year like now, like, I mean, if they make a call at the end of the game, we have a chance to beat Auburn at our place, and they're number one in the country. I mean, in 22 years, I've never been a part of a worse non-call.
Like, I'd have slept better knowing they called a blocking foul at the end of the game, where it really should have been a travel and then a charge. It's kind of like probably what Jamie Dixon is dealing with right now after the game the other day.
I mean, call over and back, call something before the whistle at the end of the game so it doesn't come down to it the way that it does. But there's always those moments that keep driving you competitively that you want to get back at it.
So I really am pretty open on it. And that's the most important thing for me is just to kind of take it unemotionally and really, really look at it in a good way.
And there's things we're going to do different this time, again, even from the beginning when it comes to choosing a job. And I think those are really, really crucial.
Yeah, I mean, you answered the question, by the way, when you said you're going to a G League game tonight. That was it right there.
That's how much you love ball right there. Absolutely.
absolutely and you learn from so many areas i went to one last week i mean i learned a ton and i love it i mean i just i love studying the game yeah so let's talk about this sweet 16 you said you were watching taking notes what high high level like which team do you think right now poses the the most matchup problems for the rest of the field going through the Sweet 16, Elite Eight, Final Four? For the rest of the field, I would say I'll go with Kansas because I think they have so many guys that can beat you. And they can defend.
I mean, they can really defend. And they can keep you off the foul line.
I mean, they're not in this tournament being deep is is not overly important because of the length of the timeouts. And guys that get used to playing a lot of minutes are pretty well conditioned to it at this point.
So like those long TV timeouts seem like an eternity for guys. And I think you can play a smaller amount of players and really not lose a lot.
You know, the problem in this tournament is what's going to come down to in so many ways is a turnover battle and the free throw battle. Right.
I mean, if you're giving up an inordinate amount of points off turnovers, it's going to be a problem. And the trick is, if you've been low on turnovers during the year, can you stay in character during this? Well, it's the same thing with the foul line.
So, like, there's teams right now that would really make me nervous in a really close game, last two, three minutes, where they've got to go put the game away at the foul line. And there's also some teams that are they going to impose their will enough to make sure that their strength is getting to the foul line.
Like Arkansas strength is getting to the foul line. Well, Gonzaga doesn't put you on the foul line very much, but at the same time, if you put Gonzaga at the foul line, Timmy and Holmgren are very, very average free throw shooters.
And, and like, are you going to force them to foul during the game? Because Timmy doesn't get called for many fouls, neither does Holmgren. But at the end of the game, okay, can you trust them to go and make the foul shot? So like the closer you can keep it inside of these games, the better it's going to be.
And I say that because I think Kansas has got some real spurt ability where they can knock you out because they've got such quickness. They've got such speed.
they don't have to rely on any one aspect of the game to beat you offensively. And defensively, they can really, really lock you down, especially from three.
That's a good answer because I think they're kind of the forgotten team right now where it's a lot of Gonzaga, a lot of Duke, a lot of UNC, UCLA, and Villanova back in the mix. But Kansas probably has the easiest draw remaining in terms of their region, and they have been playing great basketball.
Yeah, and Coach, which one of these coaches that's remaining right now, would you expect to be the one that's most likely to come out there with something unusual, something creative offensively that we haven't seen yet? Which one of these coaches is always a guy that's looking for a new wrinkle that would debut it in a time like this during the Sweet 16? Oh, there's no question. It's Eric Musselman.
It's Eric Musselman versus the field. I mean, he's very unique.
I mean, he's going to find different ways to guard you, and they don't panic. That's the thing about Arkansas.
I mean, Notay is not shooting the ball real well. I think in our league, in the SEC, there was only one game he wasn't in double figures, and it was when they got beat by Texas A&M in the SEC tournament.
Well, they're not shooting it great, but at the same time, they're finding ways to win. They get fouled.
I mean, he's going to find ways. He's not relying on the three.
And if if they were they wouldn't win because they're not shooting the three nearly as well now Stan Lumidi is is the guy that I think is the x factor for them to shoot the ball and and and and I think what what Eric's going to do is find ways to not only get him open on the break but get him open in the half court but not only what they can do offensively to get fouled but what what they can bring at you defensively to disrupt you. And I think that's where the background with his dad, all those years of being such an innovative coach, what he's done, whether it's the G League, the NBA, when Nevada, Arkansas, what he's done as an innovative coach is a big thing in this tournament because, you know, your nerves are so open for interpretation inside of this game.
Like this, this whole thing comes down to mental toughness and you start getting nervous and uptight and you miss shots. And all of a sudden you start seeing ghosts and your shoulders get tight and you start forcing the action or you start getting quiet or you lose your awareness on defense.
And all of a sudden that's where the game is. And and I think what Eric's done with this team with the way that they played in the SEC is they've overcome a lot of that and I think they're going to have to against Gonzaga because you're going to have to go right at Gonzaga they don't get called for a lot of fouls I think Timmy's averaging like two fouls per 40 minutes like I don't know how you do that but like like, you got to go at them.
Like you got to go

at North Carolina because they don't commit a lot of fouls. So the teams that are innovative,

creative, go after you, post it up, put you in pick and roll, lift your bigs out of the lane.

Those are the things that are going to be separators in this tournament. Those are

parts of the game within the game, I think. And conversely, which one of the coaches would

you trust the most in terms of in-game adjustments?

It's a good question.

I think Bill Self is right there.

No question about it.

I think Mike K.

I mean, being at that game the other day, it was one of the most intense atmospheres I've ever been at is somebody sitting in the stands. I mean, the tension in that building in the last five, six, seven minutes was unbelievable.
But he got that team settled in. And Michigan State played into it a little bit.
It was 74-73. A.J.
Hoggard drives it, gets it blocked. They come down, they give up a bucket.
Now they're down one. Joey Hauser comes in and gets it blocked.
Well, that's the game. And then Hoggard comes down on the other end, goes for a steal.
All right. They get a back cut.
They get a layup. It changes the whole game.
Well, Mike made the adjustments inside of that game of really letting Roach get going and really get the ball reversed. And Paulo was such a good passer inside of that game.
He created so much offense for them. And I think guys like that that aren't reliant on one way to beat you.
The teams that are overly reliant on three, like I like Villanova in this tournament, but like they really, really need to make threes. And really very few people have taken them away from them.
Yeah. I like how you called him Mike K there.
For a second I was like, wait, are you talking about the radio host? We'll go with Mike Krzyzewski. You don't, you don't call him coach.
Do you call other coaches coach? Oh, I call him coach. Absolutely.
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, cause, because, um, and he's been great to me since this happened, I've had some guys that have just been fantastic and he's been one of them.
And, and, but no, when I first met him, I think I was like 20 years of age. he was coached then he's coached now got guys deserve that I I'm not one of those guys that overly call people coach or coacher you know all that cliche stuff but he deserves coach there's no doubt about that uh you mentioned the threes this is maybe a dumb question but if you're a team if you go into a game with your team and you're shooting very poorly from three in that game do you ever do you tell your team to adjust and stop taking threes or are you of the mindset of like you just got to keep shooting we'll knock a couple down uh because i always like that's the tournament sometimes like you catch a team when they're hot and you're not or vice versa and it can be over well it's two things first off you don't you don't you don't want them taking challenge threes and most of the good three-point shooting teams like Villanova is a great example they really move the ball right like they make the next pass so like this this tournament and we saw this the other day I thought Duke's length bothered Michigan State and and when Michigan State started to make some open jump shots started to get out on the break, the game changed for them.
But when they were trying to make plays at the rim, when they were trying to shoot pull-ups, it's amazing how the length changes the game. And again, small guards can sometimes be a problem in this.
Like, I didn't think Auburn had a ton of energy in the game the other day. Walker Kessler got in foul trouble and Bruce sat him down early.
They took some bad shots, but small guards were a problem for Miami and the fact that Miami could get whatever they wanted on the offensive end. But I don't think you stop your team from shooting it.
I think you control the game more with trying to make sure you're getting something inside. When that thing gets to five team fouls, this is one of the things that makes Mike Krzyzewski so good, when that thing gets to five team fouls in the half, I mean, they are going inside.
So, like, if your team doesn't have awareness, situational awareness of where the bonus is, or if you're not cognizant as a coach, when that thing gets to three and four, how do we get to five and six? When it gets to five, how do we get to seven? When it gets to seven and eight, how do we get to 10 so we get to two shots? Well, you're doing your team a disservice. And when you can get into the bonus, and I think this is something to really watch, when teams are in the bonus somewhere around the 12-minute mark, 11-minute mark, 10-minute mark, you're not going to probably lose unless you're a really, really poor free-throw shooting team.
So you want your team to play with freedom. You want it to get reversed.
You want them to get driving kicks, make the next pass. But you better have a plan for how you're going to get fouled, whether it's on the drive or whether it's on the post up.
And with that being said, that's why Purdue is such a dangerous team, because they score from two, they score from three. They offensive rebound.
Zach Zach Eady is the number one offensive rebound percentage guy in the country Trayvon Williams is 15th they get fouled those two and Ivy get fouled an amazing amount so they can beat you at the foul line and and now they're going to foul they're going to put you on the foul line too but they're not reliant on just one way to beat you. Right.
So when you have that and your team is used to doing that, it gives you a real advantage in this tournament. Because no matter, you can bring in the Dalai Lama.
You can bring back Phil Jackson. You can bring back, you name it, Dr.
Phil. If you're struggling shooting the ball in this tournament, your mind is going to play tricks on you.
And it just happens because the bigger the stage, the further in the tournament,

the brighter the light, so to speak. And it just messes with your head.

And you got to be a great psychologist on the bench with your team, but at the same time,

know what's going to win the game for you. Yeah, I think Purdue was in the double bonus

at about the 10 minute mark in the second half. And so at that point, there was nothing

that Texas could do, even when they went on like small little runs. They're still committing fouls,

you know,

you know, bonus at about the 10-minute mark in the second half. And so at that point, there was nothing that Texas could do, even when they went on small little runs.
They're still committing fouls, 85 feet from the basket, put them on the line for two shots. No, you're right.
And these teams that foul, like St. Peter's is a great story, but they foul, right? They foul a lot.
And Kentucky goes 23 or 35 from the foul line the other day. If they make a couple more, that's not even a story.
But what St. Peter's does is they play really, really hard.
Now, Howard, I thought they did a good job, even though Oscar had 30. I thought they did a good job of backing off some of Kentucky's guards, like Sabir Wheeler.
They just backed off and forced those guys to make plays. Well, you can't do that against Purdue, right? Like there's nobody on that lineup that you can really cheat off of.
So what are you going to do? Are you going to zone? Where's your double going to come from? But the fact of the matter is St. Peter's follows you.
And I think that plays right into the hands of Purdue inside of this game. And again, because they can shoot the three at such a high level, it's an added bonus.
The fact that they've got two guys that are impossible to guard inside and that Ivy can get to the rim on anybody right now in the college game, I think is a real benefit for them. I need to know for my own purposes and entertainment watching this game coming up, is your brother, excuse me, is your brother-in-law, Coach Harbaugh, going to be at the Michigan Villanova game? You know what? Knowing him, it's in Chicago, right? No, that one's in Philly.
Philly, yeah. Wait, is it? I'm not sure where that one's going to be.
I don't know if that one's going to be in Philly. There's another one that's going to be in Philly.
I will tell you, that game. St.
Peter's is playing in Philly. That game is going to be in San Antonio.
I apologize. Okay.
Yeah. Well, I think he's got practice.
I have not talked to him this week. I talked to him last Friday.
Knowing him, he probably will. I mean, and I wouldn't be surprised, especially with the support that Juwan has given him.
I think a lot of it would depend on his practice. But knowing him, he probably will.
I mean, he went to Miami to watch WWE at one point, or Vegas or wherever he, Miami, I guess it was. I mean, he just jumps in a plane and he's gone.
He's a sports nut, and I know he loves Michigan sports, so I would imagine he probably would. Just from managing the team perspective, you obviously had a Final Four run with Marquette.
In terms of going from the first weekend to the second, how hard is it to the kids focused because i'd imagine i mean it's you come back the campus is buzzing everyone wants to have a good time is it very difficult to keep everyone focused in these few days leading up to the next task at hand in the sweet 16 absolutely and the only thing harder is when you go from the final eight to the final four that week. No, I'll never forget it.
We won two games. We beat Holy Cross and then we beat Missouri and we go in the locker room and I've got walk-ons doing interviews after the game, right? I swear to God.
And then you come back and now they're not only doing interviews. I mean, they got three or four people around them.
So especially if you don't have a setup, like if your SID media relations director doesn't have a real understanding of this, if they become fans in this, it's a problem. And I think it can be really, really distraction focused.
I've said for a long time, you know, the more you go up the ladder, the more people want answers from you, the more you better have questions, right? So your questions better be like, okay, when am I getting in the gym to make sure I'm getting my shots? When am I going to watch extra film? What's my routine? If you get off your routine and you get in and you get caught up in so much of this. And remember when back then the social media wasn't even remotely an issue like it is now.
So I think the teams like the teams that were leaving, like, I know if Michigan state would have, would have won on Sunday, they were flying home and they were going to leave for San Francisco last night. Like the teams that get out of town early right now have a real advantage to get in, get, get situated, get in their film rooms, get their war room set up, so to speak, you know, social media is still there, but they're locked in.
And the people that are spending all their time, like I always say, don't take a breath, right? Like don't take a breath. You know, you catch your breath, okay, real quick, but you don't sit there and take a breath because now as soon as you do that, now you start resting and you start thinking about what you did versus focused on what you've got to go do.
And then when it hits, all of a sudden, like you cannot prepare your mind for that day, right? And for the elite eight, no matter how hard you try, unless you've been there and know how to get yourself ready for it the best way possible going in. Because if you get off, and this is what happens, you could see it the other day in the games.
When guys start getting out of character, when they start trying to make plays that they can't make, taking shots that they can't take, what they're telling you, they're not only telling you that they're not locked into you, they're thinking about their future. And I think every step of the way you go up here, you've got to be fighting the next level, right? Like the better you play, the better at your opportunity for the next level.
The worst thing you can do is go prove to the next level something that you can't do. And you watch it.
There'll be games on Thursday and Friday night. You would say, why is he taking that shot? Why is he doing that? Why did he commit that foul? Because they get distracted.
They lose their sense of purpose on what they're there for. Yeah.
When you were coaching Dwayne Wade, when you were making your run to the Final Four, what was his mentality like in between those weekends? Over the course of the week that you guys came back and you're going to the Sweet 16, what was he like in practice just around the facility? His was great. His was great.
And that, in turn, made it be great for everybody else. Guys like Travis Diener.
Steve Novak was a a freshman at that point and he was already a great worker but when your best players leading the way and and and he had fun and he was great with his teammates but there were no games you know when he got to the gym there there were no you know i never i don't remember ever having to get him back okay to to to squared away the only time that my team let down a little bit where where the distractions hit we're practicing before the sweet 16 game against pittsburgh and i think we're practice at st thomas and i let people come into the practice and there's media waiting around and things like that that was the only time because our work at marquette was good but that was the only time that we got to the gym for the open practice that i really jumped them i mean i cleared the rock locker room other than coaches and i jumped them because i think what happens and you'll see this this weekend okay teams go okay they they have in their mind how far they can go right and the only time that my i got nervous about where my team was at was at that practice in Minnesota were like, OK, they've gone as far as they think they can go. They're happy with being here.
And I think it happens to teams. It really does, because they don't expect to get where they're at.
So they don't know how to deal with it. Well, we went out and everything kind of changed from that point on.
We beat Pittsburgh.

The next day we have a practice before Kentucky.

They give you an hour and a half in the arena.

Dwayne Wade took three charges inside of that practice. I mean, he took three charges inside of a scrimmaging and we didn't scrimmage, but for about 15 minutes.

I had two guys go for a loose ball that knocked out five or six chairs near the end zone in the court side and knocked out one of those curtain partitions because we didn't call out of bounds. And that was like the best I felt like Kentucky won 26 straight games.
They were rolling. But the best I felt like, OK, we're not going to show up in this game and be cannon fodder for Kentucky.
We're going to come to play. And I think you've got to have those moments inside of your team.
But if Dwayne doesn't do that and set the tone, I'm not sure we ever get to that point. That's a great story, and that's a great lesson for this tournament.
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out of all the coaches in the tournament

now, and you know a lot of these

guys, who would be the most likely

in your mind

to do vampire bats before the big game to get everyone ready wow that's a good one i'm not sure there's any i'm not sure there's anybody that has that mentality i have to pick if i was gonna have to pick somebody i would say kelvin samson and he would bring the he would bring the vampire bats and put him in a cage and make

him fight.

Like, I and he would bring the, he would bring the vampire bats and put them in a cage and make them fight. Like, I think he would confine the space a little bit.
I don't think he'd let them fly around, but I think he'd make them fight, tear each other up. I say that with all respect, cause that guy's fearless.
I mean, I love their team. I mean, if they can get fouled, they got a great chance.
That game's going to come down to the offensive rebounding because both teams offensive rebound it very well. Arizona's a tremendous passing team.
But, I mean, the team that gets fouled in that game is going to be a difference. But I would say probably Calvin Sampson.
But I would say Tommy Lloyd, maybe, even though I don't know him very well. He's got a creative genius going to him.
He might pull something like that off. like that off yeah I like I like the Kelvin Samson answer I mean Houston they're just a mean team like they're mean they're there's grown men and they're just mean and you love watching a team like that where you know what you're going to get out of them it's just a toughness that you don't see in every team no exactly they block shots they get steals um they they offensive rebound you know crazy they't shoot great from the foul line, which is a huge thing in this tournament.
You know, when you get into these arenas and they only shoot 68 percent from the line and they don't get fouled a lot. Like I looked at it.
They only scored only 15 percent of their points in a normal game come off the foul line. Like that's a big difference, you know, in something like that for a team that plays as hard.
So, I mean, they're going to have to find a way to make sure that they're getting fouled when you play a team like Arizona because the last thing you want to do right now is get into a running game with Arizona with the way that they're playing. I mean, they can really, really turn it up in a hurry.
So my last question was going to be about Providence because we've talked about Providence for the last month or so and about how their luck this year. Everyone keeps saying their luck is going to run out.
I'm kind of of the mindset that sometimes if you have a track record of being consistently lucky, it means that you're doing all the stuff, the small things that will translate into you appearing lucky. When you look uh, the Ken Palm rankings, you're going to be outside of that top 20, top 25, but you're still doing small stuff correctly.
Do they do enough small stuff correctly to have a chance against Kansas? Oh, I think they do because they play hard. I mean, they really, really play hard.
I think they got to get Watson going. And, and I think that's going to be huge.
I think they play better when they're playing through him. But, I mean, they can shoot the ball.
I mean, they've had games where they make 15 threes. You're going to have to shoot it against Kansas.
And that's easier said than done because of the way Kansas defends the three. But they can play a lot of different ways.
They can play you in the 50s. They can play you in the 80s.
They've had that one really bad game like they had against Creighton in the tournament to go get it knocked out of your system. That year that we got beat, or the year that we went to the Final Four, we won the league in Conference USA.
We go to the tournament, and we lose to UAB in the first round. And Dwayne Wade had a triple-double, points, rebounds, turnovers, right? And so we come home, we get in the gym and we got our mind right.
And I think when you have that late in the season, you know, a close loss doesn't always do that. When you get smacked around a little bit like they did against Creighton, that wakes you up, that gets you locked in.
And I think that team is playing with a real purpose. They've been playing like that all year.
So they've been really, really consistent. Ed's a really good coach.
I wouldn't put the vampire bats past him, not by any stretch. I don't know how many you find in Providence, Rhode Island, but he'll get them.
But I think they're a good team. As much as I like Kansas, that would not surprise me.
I just think Kansas' speed and the matchup issues that they create, they're going to have to play great half-court defense, and that's easier said than done against Kansas. Yeah, we love Ed Cooley.
We love Providence. Unbelievable season they've had.
Coach, this has been awesome. We appreciate it, and we're always rooting for you, and hopefully we'll see you soon in person.
You will. I appreciate you guys a lot.
I appreciate being able to do this, and it's great to see you. Yeah, thanks so much.
Great to see you, Coach. Thank you.
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slash pmt that's b-e-t-t-e-r-h-e-l-p dot com slash p-m-t okay let's wrap up with guys on chicks uh billy by the way do you have any future on kansas yes okay because i was gonna say i just saw i was just looking at twitter and on the barstool sportsbook we have an exclusive Gonzaga or Kansas to win the title

plus 150

could be that actually is a game changer that could be a game changer for the spreadsheet that's huge okay so when you go home tonight take a look at that that's factor that could be huge yeah factor that into the numbers billy's just gonna be hitting up our sportsbook asking them to put out like boosted specials specifically to counterbalance his potential losses.

Okay. Quick little parental control.
I don't know what this segment would be called, but I'm interested in your comments. Kylie Jenner, Travis Scott, I'm sure you guys saw this news.
Did you? Yes. They had their son.
They named him Wolf. And then a month later, they decided that they wanted to change his name.
I think you can change a kid's name up until a year and a half. What? What I do.
Having two children myself, I know when my son realized his name. Also very funny because he learned my name recently.
Big Cat? No, he'll drop a Dan right in my face every now and then. It's very funny.
But yeah yeah i think a year and a half is right around when you can change it it also has to be the first kid because you can't if it's the second kid like if i changed my daughter's name right now my son would be what like what the fuck right because he's now learning her name yeah he knows her name right so yeah i i kind of agree with that if you name your kid something kid something like Wolf, and it has to fit them. You don't want to name your kid Wolf.
You want to meet a baby and then experience it for a little bit and determine if it's Wolf worthy. Yeah.
It is the second kid. It's the second kid, so they can't do it.
They got Stormy. Yeah, they can't do it because then the other kid has definitely learned Wolf, and that's confusing as fuck.
But just gonna take a shot in the dark no judgment i have a feeling that these kids probably won't have the most normal upbringing anyway that's probably correct just a shot in the dark the kardashian clan probably not like a typical childhood probably probably named the kid after wolf blitzer they're probably big cnn. That's exactly it.
Maybe they got changes to Rex. There you go, yeah.
Oh, Rex. My fiance proposed this weekend at a meat ranch.
Why did he think that was a romantic venue? I still said yes. That's a dude's rock moment.
We're just going to get a big steak after this. What is a meat ranch specifically?

Is it like a slaughterhouse? I think ranch wouldn't be a meat ranch.

You could have non-meat ranch.

Like if you have alpaca farms.

But that could be meat.

But you don't eat them.

You could.

You use their wool for your own war.

Yeah.

I just think this is a dude's rock moment.

And you said yes.

So he kind of, he's got the upper hand. Yeah, well, what this means is he's anchoring you for the rest of your relationship that his most romantic moments will be spent on things that matter to him.
No, this is, guys are really stupid and have a very big blind spot for, like, romance at times. Like, oh, I got you these flowers.
Oh oh these flowers are like clearly from the bodega down the street and you thought of it two seconds ago like that kind of shit it's not our strong suit sometimes yeah but if the view is good it might be justifiable that's true i'd like to see the meat ranch and how was the steak right let's let's find that out as well technically all ranches are meat ranches yeah it's a good point bill meat ranches. Yeah.
That's a good point, Billy.

15 seconds.

No, it's a good point, Billy.

What about alpaca?

Oh, no.

You can eat them.

That's more like a farm.

I think a ranch is technically beef cattle.

Okay.

Okay, yeah, yeah.

I messed up at work and don't know what to do.

My boss...

Wait, wait.

You're going to bonk me for this, but the phrase meat ranch would make sense as like a euphemism for cum.

Yeah, no, that is a bonk.

Yep, hold on.

You think of it like the salad dressing.

You are correct.

That's 322.

Where your mind went to?

I'm going to start calling it meat ranch from now on.

PFT called meat.

Wait, say it again?

PFT is a 16-year-old.

I said that guys could call their own cum Meat ranch because it comes out of their meat And it looks like ranch dressing Okay, updated Meat ranch Noun, synonym for cum Oh, we got it My boss and I have a joke My boss and I have a joke that he's my office dad,

and it's a purely non-sexual thing.

Today I sent an email calling him daddy instead of dad,

and that has made things awkward.

He showed another coworker in confidence to see if I was hitting on him.

Now he thinks I'm into him,

and our formerly fun and healthy office dynamic might be completely ruined.

Should I just leave town?

Yes.

This shit is so weird to me. Whenever people do, this is my office husband yeah my work wife yeah that's you're basically just saying we haven't fucked yet but we would yeah like what are you doing i i i have always been like very uncomfortable i don't know if it happens a lot in real life as much as it does on television but like going home to your home to your family and being like, yeah, my work wife was telling me this.
It's your co-worker. If I was legally allowed to, I'd fuck her.
Yeah. Daddy, though.
Yeah, you can't come back from that. That's like when you're in, like, first grade and you call the teacher mom by accident.
It's, like, probably, I would say universally if you pulled everyone's most, like first memory of being completely embarrassed it's that calling your teacher mom uh sup boys i have a question mostly for bubba i got hit by a car about three and a half years ago and it's basically my personality in the friend group now yep is there any escaping this or will i always just be the friend that got hit by a car cut your your hair. I was going to say get long hair.
Yeah. That's what I did.
And then cut it. Yeah, get tattoos.
Sleep a lot. Yeah, be really bad at reading.
Yeah. Just have other things to get made fun of.
Lie about being colorblind to everybody so that they make fun of you for that. I get colorblind way more than hit by a car.
It really did change your brand quite a bit. Do you think the car, was a car a bright color well you wouldn't know but did anyone tell you would you have seen it if you weren't colorblind it was a hit run i don't know yeah imagine if it was like imagine if the the driver was also colorblind that'd be colorblind on colorblind crime yeah when will they start policing their own communities big cat they're like who hit you like some gray car it was like a fucking yellow lambo you know you could you could also hope that somebody else in your friend group gets hit by a bigger car then they become the car hit person yeah just invite tony stewart to come hang out for a while or chip payheim oh god what is the best way to get over someone without getting under someone else? Wait, what? Oh, I get it.
Rebound. You got to work on yourself.
You got to work on yourself. You got to learn how to love yourself before you can love someone else again.
Better help. Yeah.
No, honestly, whenever someone uses those cliches, really the answer is go out to a bar with your friends and get drunk and have fun. You'll feel better.

I think the answer is always, yeah.

Or for me, win a bet.

Do anything to take your mind off of the old thing.

And it's like the last thing.

If you ever go through a breakup, the last thing that you want to do is leave your bed or your couch.

But that's also the thing that makes you feel the worst.

Yes.

So get out there.

Actually, just go out there and find a hobby.

Get a brand new hobby. Just pretend to like something until you actually like it because that's what most adult hobbies are.
Or win a bet. After Wisconsin lost, I won that TCU Arizona over, and I was like, this is awesome again.
All right, well, this is going to be a mean one for you then. Last one.
Hi, Big Cat, PFT, Billy, and Hank. My family does a betting competition for the first weekend of March Madness

where we each bet $25 however we want and see who can win the most money.

My boyfriend helped me pick my bets,

but I didn't realize he was just recommending all these bets

that Big Cat posted on Twitter.

Oh, no.

Long story short, I lost all my money,

and now my family thinks he's an idiot.

How can he win their respect back?

Illegal.

This is a fake question because I did not lose all my bets on Twitter. I went 7-4 the first day.
This is a lie. What about the second day? It sounds like there was one group of bets that they followed and then they're extrapolating that.
There are a few accounts that I'll see that will... It's always funny because I'm not a good gambler but as anyone knows it's gambling so you get hot every now and then i'll have people like create like fade big cat accounts and they'll just only count my losses they'll be like oh i wasn't fading that wind streak that you went on like i i i miss those so this guy eats bullshit you didn't lose all of it also just take the ball turn it's a girl girl take the ball turn it and yeah i suck at gambling i'm very clear about that i don't think i i don't think i lie about that part yeah i think no there's no pretending i think you perfectly averagely suck at gambling though like everybody sucks at gambling yeah and i get hot when i get hot i'm happy and i tell everyone i'm hot and then i get cold and it sucks and i pretend i get hacked yep the uh the only reason why I'm even still afloat or I was even at 500 was because of the ball alternate.
The ball alternate. And because of Jersey Jerry, who was just the hottest gambler in the world.
Make it permanent. I really want.
I think Hank purposely put this question in here because he wants me to make Texas Tech my game of the year. You should.
He's been pushing me to do it. Yo, you've been saying it, and I'm...
Why don't you make it your game of the year, Hank? The refs. The refs.
If you feel so confident about it. They can't have PTSD.
No, I'm worried about the refs. You're in denial and PTSD combo.
I said it before the tournament. This is the game the refs will show up for Coach K.
Excuse me, Mike K. Yeah, Mike K.
All-time power move by Tom Green. I that uh all right um uh it took us both a second

yeah who's who's mike k mike k is gonna sneak into tom queen's house and strangle him i read an article that uh coach k actually it was an article about coach k's son-in-laws and he tried to make them all call him coach yeah i think that's nice not on a power trip six what were you gonna say

no go ahead

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I was gonna say I don't remember if you said that on the show or off the show. No, I did not.
It was off the show. The last five days.
I know. That's why.
22. Six.
25. 69.
But you will hear that story again. That is now part of my Coach K repertoire.
64, original tournament. Fourth time.
Fourth time. And we have who's now the GOAT? 59? 52.
52. And then 47.
And then 47. Next, maybe? Yeah, 47, seven times.
Nobody ate. I feel like some of these on-the-road ones are like Mickey Mouse championships.
It's tough. Yeah, they're just random number generators.
Yeah. Yeah, I'd like to see the code behind those.
Love you guys. Malik Willis did the same throw that Zach Wilson did, but just 10 yards farther.
I just wanted to add that as a little note at the end. That throw? All right, yeah, note added.
It was farther. I want Malik Willis.
Give me Malik Willis. I love Carson Wentz.

Had two MVP votes in 2017.

Give me Malik Willis.

Ranches don't necessarily have to be for meat.

Unless you're talking about the cum.

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