March Madness Recap, St Peters Head Coach Shaheen Holloway And We're Dead Men Walking

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Brains have been melted. Wisconsin lost.
Duke won. Hank's been just, like, avoiding me for the entirety of the day, which is very funny.
We have Shaheen Holloway on the show. Yeah, you know, I know you haven't.
What else am I supposed to do? I know you have. I was like, where the hell is Hank? I haven't seen him all day.
Oh, he's been in the other room. Shaheen, when dad's mad, just stay away.
Shaheen Holloway, coach of St. Peter's on the show.
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This is March. Yeah, unfortunately uh big cat's voice gave out entirely so he won't be able to recap the wisconsin game uh i'll just do it right now iowa state 54 wisconsin 49 all right let's move on let's talk about ohio state yeah and villanova yeah big choke job out of the buckeyes big choke job at the end, no, listen.
Thankfully, the Wisconsin game was earlier today, so I had some time to recoup with my friends, make some bets, have some laughs. Make some memories.
I think this is one of those losses that I got over it very quickly. It's an onset death, or it's a late onset death.
I'll be be on the plane tomorrow and i'll be like god damn it we shot two for fucking 19 from three because at the end of the day everyone loses except one team but you don't want to lose the game that you can see is winnable that's the part that kills if i if you lose your best versus their best you can walk away being like, man, that was fun. It sucks.
It hurts. But when you lose and you're like, yeah, we could have fucking won that game if Chucky Hepburn doesn't get hurt, which derailed the entire offense.
Or if maybe Johnny Davis drove more. Or maybe we hit one fucking three.
Maybe if you made any shots. I think you were, what, one for 17? Yeah.
Three.

It's tough to win a game like that.

And, like, Wisconsin was obviously, I don't think that they were going to win at all this year.

They were a flawed team.

That's part of, like, why this is, it sucked, but it's not.

It was going to happen anyways.

It's not 2015.

I would have preferred that you would have lost to Duke, but, you know.

In the final.

In the final.

That would have been optimal.

That would have been the worst. Really, they did you a favor by knocking you out because they didn't give you the satisfaction of moving on and getting your hopes up.
I really wanted Sweet 16. I said that Sweet 16 was the goal.
It's not the most heartbreaking. It's not like a double doink.
It's not 2015. It's not even the Florida game when they were already in the Sweet 16 because I knew I was realistic about this team I knew they weren't like that crazy talented it just sucks because March for your team is so much the tournament is so much fun if you have your team in it and every game so much fun and if you can get to the second weekend you get to read all the press clippings and get excited about everything but yeah yeah, it sucked.
But here's what I have going for me, PFT.

I still have a team in the tournament.

Whatever team bounces Duke, that will be my favorite night of the tournament.

Or just any team that is currently playing Duke.

I had a smile on my face about an hour after.

I was like, I'm actually happy that Duke didn't lose tonight

because now I still have that in my back pocket.

Because they will. Their defense sucks.
Shout out Coach K who in the pregame, he was like, we only put championship banners up in Cameron. And then two seconds later, they showed Coach K winning his coach banner in Cameron because it is about Coach K.
So, Hank, you did avoid me. Wisconsin lost.
Duke won. You avoided me

the rest of the day. Well, you're on edge.

Especially because I understand

that you're a way bigger Wisconsin fan than I am a Duke

fan, so I'm not trying to glow it or rub it in your

face. No, you would never do that.
I think, wait, hold

on. I do think PFT can back me up.

I would say that I bounced

back after about 20 minutes. Yeah, it was a quick

back because you knew that death was coming.

You just didn't know if it was going to be immediate death,

if it was going to be sudden onset, or as you said,

delayed. I really do think

Thank you. back after about 20 minutes.
Yeah, it was a quick back because you knew that death was coming. You just didn't know if it was going to be immediate death, if it was going to be sudden onset or as you said, like delayed.
I really do think that, and I'm doing the verbal meme right now where it's you as the troll face putting on the mask of having a smiley face. Yeah.
It's better that you lost this game than you advanced and then had your heart broken. No.
If you had gotten to the Elite Eight or the Final Four, that would have been, it would have been way more heartbreaking. You bounce back.
You would not have had to bounce back in 20 minutes if it was a sweet 16 game or if it was an elite eight game. I, I just go back to like Wisconsin is they're a flawed team.
They're just not good enough to win. Here's what, here's where it could really hurt me.
I watched that entire game and I watched Iowa state and Iowa state one. I'm not.
I'm not taking anything away from Iowa State. They stink, though.
I might game of the year Miami. I might game of the year.
It might be a revenge game of the year. ACC elite.
It might be a revenge game of the year. So this loss could cost me twice.
So as far as Duke goes, though, also quickly, I would just like to say, sorry, PFT, to interrupt you, but I was just going to say the real – Hank gets a win from Coach K.

He's feeling himself.

No, because you weren't talking to –

No, you go off, Hank.

This is Hank's Corner, brought to you by Hank.

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The gambling side of the Duke game, the fact that Big Cat had Wisconsin

and I had Duke, that was like a –

Or no, Michigan State plus seven.

I don't want to rub it in his face, let alone that Duke won and then also cover the spread. I knew it was contentious times to even speak.
Yeah, who would want to make any time to speak contentious? Exactly. But as far as the coaching matchup, Izzo and Coach K, you know that Izzo, as our friend Rico, likes to always remind us, he knows what the spread is.
He's a spread guy. I caught him looking up at the scoreboard a few times in the last seconds of the game.
What reason would Tom Izzo have to check the score with 30 seconds and under left in this game? I think the fix was in. NCAA rigged.
I think that Tom Izzo and Coach K. Coach K has two friends, excuse me, three friends.
One, the sports information director at Duke that keeps all the bodies buried in the right locations. Jeff Capel, too, though.
He's the bag man. Four friends.
Keep going. No, I think it's more of a transaction.
I think they're busy. Well, Braun.
They're associates. Well, no, remember, Jeff Cable did the ultimate cuck move, and he had the entire student section at Pitt wear, like, thank you, K-shirts.
Yeah, that was ridiculous. But it was – so Jim Boeheim is another one, and then Tom Izzo, I think, is the third.
They're, like, the big three in their own minds know, they like they've been coaching together for so long.

And by like any college basketball, you know, record keeping statistic.

OK, let's bring up some of the record.

How many how many sweet 16s has Tom Izzo been to in the last 10 years?

I've radicalized PFT and I love it.

He's like I've radicalized him to help me just fight against Coach K everywhere.

Yeah, when I'm sitting in my process began.

He's got the Izzo future from like 2015. That's right.
I've got the Izzo future on him being overrated, which is still technically wildly incorrect, but give him two more years of getting bounced early, and then everybody would be like, man, PFT, I'm sorry that I doubted you, and I'll be like, suck my dick. You're not allowed on this bandwagon.
But my radicalization process began back in 2002. It's like I'm telling a story about how an incel became an incel when Duke didn't let me in.
Got rejected from attending Duke. Not that I would have been able to afford going there.
But Coach K is making it all about himself. Of course.
There's no debating that. Of course.
I'm just rooting for the most hilarious way possible for him to get bounced and so in the next round duke is playing hang on pulling up right now it's been a long weekend texas tech texas tech that's right texas tech and then they would get gonzaga i'm just seeing if it's possibility at all for them when would they play unc uh they never met in the tournament final four final final that's what I want then. I want UNC to beat Duke in the final four.
Either way, I still have the Duke loss in my back pocket, which will be great. This was a great four days, though.
We should talk about other games. I'm sad about Wisconsin, but whatever.
That's in the past. What next? My brain is so fried villanova ohio state that was villanova is just such a consummate like their attorney team they when when we when we say before the tournament starts villanova is number one in free throws where it shows up is when ohio state comes roaring back and it's a two-point game and then villanova's like no we're just not going to miss free throws and we're going gonna just win this game because we're steady and we we don't panic ever like I just trust Villanova when did that start that Villanova became known as attorney team as soon as they won their first title I I think it was I think it was Scotty Reynolds no because no no they always choked but they were big time but they were they were never like expected to win oh no they had no they were the one seed the year then.
No, they were the one seed the year before they won their first title and got bounced in the second round. No, I'm saying back 2009 or whatever that was.
They were not expected. That's when they took the next step.
There was a big Villanova chokes thing that went on for a very long time. Allen Ray, yep.
But yeah, Villanova, they are just, there's something about them where it's just, what they, yeah, 85% from free throw. They were the team that nobody was talking about.
The team that was probably the most disrespected going into it, because as a two seed, they were still very, very good. They had, he was the Big East player of the year, right? Colin Gillaspiea.
Gillaspiea. Yeah.
Yeah. Gillaspiea.
And so, but nobody was talking about them going into the tournament. Except us.
Well, we spent 99% of our time talking about them by saying nobody's talking about them. Yeah.
Which is better than most. Yeah.
I'm trying to think what other games. It's all a blur.
Illinois, there was a technical foul on the dunk in the Illinois game. My position is that if a referee can't even get rim, they should not be allowed to call technical fouls for hanging on their pass I'd agree with that Houston's just a man's team All they do is just fucking Like everyone on their team just crashes the boards and just mans up people Purdue, I want to say shout out Purdue I'm hard on Purdue That was actually a very impressive win because Chris Beard's an incredible tourney coach Texas you know brings crazy defense Purdue did enough to win and like Purdue is one of those teams that they've always been right there sweet 16 never been able to break through they now have St.
Peter's which we'll get to Sheehan Holloway but on paper you have to think you have a Jaden Ivey who's a lottery pick. You have two guys in Williams and Edie who are fucking monsters.
You'd have to think Purdue, 12-point favorites to get to the Elite Eight, to be on the doorstep of a Final Four. Hank is shaking his head.
He's going to bet St. Peter's.
Money line. Hell yes.
I think I've got to take St. Peter's too.

Yeah.

All those guys think they should be at Purdue.

Yeah, that's true.

We'll get to that later.

No, Kentucky.

Oh.

Yeah.

Well, no.

If you think you should be at Kentucky, then you don't want to be at Purdue.

True.

So, exactly.

They're better.

I just made fun of Purdue.

I just said a mean thing about Purdue when I was trying to be nice to Purdue. It's that easy.

But also, in this game, you're very generous to give them credit, by the way. They did

shoot 40 foul shots. Yeah.

And I think, what did Texas have, like 10?

I don't know. You can't make a team

foul. And the refs, I don't

think were doing like... It wasn't

the worst ref job of the tournament.

No. But that's still a shitload of

foul shots for one team to attempt.

I really didn't have as much

of a problem with it because they're physical

and they got big dues. Yeah.
So in

the game against St. Peter's, I'm going to just

Let's go. battle shots for one team to attempt.
I really didn't have as much of a problem with it because they're physical and they got big dues.

Yeah, so in the game against St. Peter's,

I'm going to just... There's no reason why I should bet St.
Peter's

against this team.

Like you said, with the physical mismatch...

Jersey Hank, did you listen to the interview you conducted?

Yes. No, no, no.

I'm telling you right now, Hank,

there's no reason for me to do it.

Physically, it's a complete mismatch, but I'm still going to do it because fuck it.

Because I ride.

Yeah, you have to.

Sometimes you just got to take the part of your brain that thinks that it's being smart

and tell it to shut the fuck up.

And that's what I'm going to do.

No pressure.

No pressure.

All the pressure is going to be on Purdue.

That's right.

And then we had Notre Dame got bounced.

That was a nice story.

Texas Tech, they are my hope now.

Notre Dame fell apart at the last minute of the game.

Yeah, they did.

And I also have a lot of Texas Tech gear that I'll be wearing

whenever Duke plays them.

What's that, Thursday, Friday?

What's the guy's name?

Jeffrey.

Yes.

Jeffrey the mascot.

Shout out Jeffrey.

I'll be guns blazing for Texas Tech. We can't have the conversation now of whether or not Texas Tech is better off without Chris Beard.
Yeah. Because they've advanced.
By the way, Chris Beard, do you think that he has to have a beard? Yes. Because his last name? Yes.
I don't think that he can shave it. It would just be really weird.
It would make no sense. He's not Chris Mustache.
Right. Like if Bruce Arians wasn't white.
Right. It would make no sense.
You were leading to that. No.
No. You brought up Chris Beard, not me.
No, you said Chris. You just said you think Chris Beard would be weird if he didn't have a beard.
No, you brought him up. What? We'll review the tape.
What? I wasn't leading into it, but I did have the conversation earlier today about the beard, whether or not the name affects the personal style. You walked yourself into that one.
And then I gaslit you. Yeah, you just walked yourself right into that joke.
To tell you that I didn't do that. That one might be in the drafts.
Yeah, definitely in the drafts. Oh, we're going to be...
This should have stayed in the drafts guy? It's definitely in the drafts. You know who's worse than staying in the drafts guy is, how long have you had this one in your drafts for? Yeah, at least, what, five hours, you said.
No, I wasn't thinking about Bruce Arians five hours ago. And then, oh, we forgot to mention Auburn got kind of exposed.
I mean, the big storyline is SEC, like the Big 12 and the ACC punked the SEC. The Big 10, yes, wasn't great, but they do have two teams into the Sweet 16.
The SEC was the basketball conference all year. Our must-bus is still riding, but everyone else, Alabama, Kentucky, Auburn, Tennessee, LSU, all out.
Did I just kick something? Did you? No. I just kicked something.
All out, Miami. That was never even close.
That was never even close. Like, they beat Auburn convincingly.
It wasn't one of those games where you're like, oh, man, plucky upset. They were a seven-point dog, and they won by 18.
I was surprised by that one. Yeah.
Maybe it's because I just don't know anything about Miami. They have good guard play, and I think that's probably the weakness that kind of did in Auburn all year.
And people were shitting on the ACC this year. Yeah, that's true.
They got no respect. None.
That's true. That is true.
And now they have three teams into the final to the Elite Eight or Sweet 16, and they had Notre Dame knocking on the door. What game did we miss? I don't think we missed any other games.
In the recap segment that we did about the Saturday games, I don't think we talked about Arkansas at all. And that shit game that they played in Buffalo.
It was the worst game I've ever watched. That entire arena is completely dead to me.
I'm never going to be betting on a single game that's played in that place. It felt like there were stretches of time where it was like 30 minutes between a basket.
I didn't see the ball go into a hoop. Well, here's the thing.
It's one thing to watch. Iowa State and Wisconsin was a rock fight, but you knew it was a rock fight going in.
Arkansas and New Mexico State had the pace. They just dribbled the ball everywhere and never scored.
That was just a wild game to watch. It's like what I would imagine the first game of basketball looked like.
Yeah, I'm actually going to look it up. Oh, speaking of that, here's a fun fact that I learned yesterday.
Okay. So there's only one coach in the history of Kansas that has a losing record.
Do you know who it is? No. George Williams.
No, absolutely not. Dr.
James Naismith. Whoa.
The guy that invented the game of basketball has a losing record. That's crazy.
What a weirdo. That is crazy.
Because he created a league with parody. He did? He created the league? He fell on the sword.
Thank you, Dr. Naismith.
All right, well, now we've got to wait for Jake. I'll do the ad.
You didn't talk about the last game. Oh, Arizona.
Yeah, Arizona-TCU. What a game.
Crazy. Crazy ending.
Benedict Mathurin. Fucking crazy.
30 points. I just love any tournament game, and in a second we're going to talk about the Gonzaga-Memphis game, where one guy's like, I'm not letting my team lose.
Like, I'm just not. And TCU had the same thing with Big Eddie like he was an absolute monster two guys going toe-to-toe Arizona survives I still think Arizona is championship caliber and it just shows you how fucking hard this tournament is yeah it's like they're the they're the you know maybe the second favorite behind Gonzaga and they play TCU who's just a a tough-ass team, and they give them everything.
That game easily could have been won by TCU. That game probably set a record for the most offensive rebounds in the last 10 minutes of a game because both teams' bigs were really good.
That was the difference. Arizona finally figured out how to offensive rebound in the overtime.
Yeah, I mean, TCU was doing it too, but they were doing it all game. TCU, the difference would be TCU would miss like three layups in a row, get two offensive rebounds, then lose a third.
Arizona would get three offensive rebounds and then make their last one. Right.
That game was crazy. The play at the end of the game where there was a turnover at midcourt, which I still think was a foul, has nothing to do with the fact that I put a live bet on Moneyline TCU.
It was kind of a flop and then should have been a backdoor court violation.

I'm not going to let the facts get in the way of a take.

And then he drove it to the hole.

As the buzzer sounds, he goes up for a dunk.

This is why you should never dunk.

This is why I don't dunk.

Lay the ball in, and the game's over. out he was like probably like 0.2 seconds late it was yeah just lay it in lay it in no reason to do that if that ends up being a tcu win that guy will never ever live that down that screenshot is like the most painful screenshot you could have yeah hand in yeah hand fully around the ball red light on the

backboard and there are probably some arizona fans in the background that screenshot like jumping in

the air celebrating or even the screenshot it would be like the screenshot of when he got the

ball and it would be like two seconds left and he has a clear path of the basket and it's like we

lost this game yes yes um all right we're gonna have jake come in jake's gonna give us his recap

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Jake, you're here. Let's do it.
Your one shining moment recap. What else you got? Give us just the lowdown.
Great games. Oh, amazing.
I mean, it was the first four days. It's crazy how every year it's just, it always delivers.
I know it's like cliche. A lot of people say it, but we didn't have a true buzzer beater.
Sure. We didn't have like an all time moment, but there are plenty of great moments.
There was a shining moment. Yes, absolutely.
Yeah. So give it to us.
So I have 20. I have 20 right now.
Last year, I want to say I went around 50 percent for total. Yeah.
Do you know how many roughly are in the video? Oh, there's a couple hundred shots because everything is just so quick. So it's impossible to predict everything.
I'm just trying to see whatever I say is in. Okay.
Yeah. All right.
So go ahead. Give it to us.
I'll go quickly here. Take your time.
Okay. It's your time.
It's literally Marsh Madness. Oh, I appreciate that.
The first one is a lock. The ball is tipped.
Yep. Just a jump ball.
One for one. Yeah, that's like the free space on the video card.
From the first game, though. I did say the first game, yes.
Wait, when you say the first game, are you talking about the first four? Texas Southern versus Texas. Okay.
So I could be wrong. Happened seven years ago.
I could have been more generic, but I wanted to try to be on the dot. So I'll be wrong in that sense, fine.
But they're going to start off with that. Is that one or sometimes they do the first, the national championship? No, they always do the tip of the national championship at the end in slow-mo.
Credit to you, by the way. Yeah.
Credit to you. Yeah, they do more fresh air to death.
Credit to you for not losing your voice. It's a little shawty.
He's a trained broadcaster, big guy. That's what they teach you at Newhouse.
We new house um we have an alley-oop no but still excuse me a nice alley-oop from indiana against wyoming in the first four okay um we have the paul atkinson game winner notre dame versus rutgers yeah that might be game of the tournament too none of people i already counted them oh yeah it's gonzaga my game of the tournament so far what about the like the uh leprechauns coming onto the court at midnight for St. Patrick's Day? Yes.

The call of that, Happy St. Patrick's Day, was Tom McCarthy, voice of the Phillies.

That's going to make it for sure.

If we're doing an audio version, that would make it.

John Fulkerson, a big one-handed slam against Longwood for Tennessee.

We have, again, maybe not specifically, but this will happen, a player diving into a table yes in this case always mike peak of new mexico state um richmond and and one against iowa that was the first big upset of the tournament bench mom was going nuts on that one too um brady manic from north carolina the one who got ejected against baylor. He had 28 points against Marquette.

Just him making a three is going to make it.

Yeah.

Because he's had a good opening weekend.

The Indiana cheerleader, also a lock.

Yes.

That one is the moment of the tournament.

Yeah.

Yes.

That's automatic.

Indiana against St. Mary's.

Deep three to take the lead in overtime for Boye of San Francisco against Murray State.

That was a great late night game. Yep.

Barstool athlete, Devin Cambridge with a big block for Auburn against Jacksonville State. Jabari Smith, big-time hammer slam.
That was an awesome dunk. I love that big-time hammer slam.
Malik Wilson of Texas Tech did a 360 dunk. Any 360 dunk plays.
Sorry if I'm boring people. No, no, no.
Go off. Marcus Carr.
Yeah, Marcus Carr's Halftime buzzer beater for Texas Shout out Rico That was a big one Big block for Eric Gaines of LSU Against Iowa State That was one of the coolest blocks If you have not seen it Go back and search it It was like one of those videos Where someone does an invisible box He kept on on going up it was crazy yeah there are a lot of good blocks he's still levitating right now yeah yeah nuts um the end of north carolina baylor scott drew did not watch the regulation buzzer beater attempt from north carolina closed his eyes and then screamed uh yes we're gonna lose in overtime instead and then i'm to tweet a cuck tweet. Yeah, that's right.
Jawan Howard's handshake redemption. He tried to squeeze.
Yeah. I think he was whispering in his ear, like, I'm going to murder your entire family.
That's why he was crying. He's like, if you don't keep hugging me back so that I can get PR back on my side, I will have you dead.
I'll pair these together. I'd include this one in the thread, but the locker room celebrations, Jawan after beating Tennessee, and then Kelvin Sampson shirtless.
Teaking his shirt off. Yeah.
I missed that one. Regrettably.
Yeah. More from another table dive, more from Houston against Illinois, so we can pair those together.
Fabian White for Houston against Illinois had this incredible save from going out of bounds down the stretch against Illinois today. That was a good one.
It led to a layup. And then just now, Benedict Matherin's dunk also could be dunking.
Yes, that one was sick. What about – I mean, we've got to have a Doug Eater three.
There's going to be – yeah, I definitely left out some some. But, yeah,, St.
Peter's going to have a moment. Yeah, you can always tweet at me if you have any recommendations to add as well.
Okay, appreciate that. We're going to go over 50%.
I think I think so far this will be over 50%. That's the goal.
The goal is get Jake above 50%. Trying to think if any others thing is like the back the last like 30 seconds of the three minute montage are always like the final force.
So they get heavy on that. I would throw in, I think there would be a Drew Timmy spin move bucket against Memphis.
Because that was such a great game. I have a long shot.
Yeah. The shot of the TCU guy's nose bleeding.
That's just a good, quick shot that you throw in there. I was considering that.
Is that too graphic for such a happy video? It might be. They have the line though.
You're fighting for your life. Is there a line in there about having a grotesque facial fracture? I don't think so.
Although Coach K going out to see his player and he whispered in his ear like, get the fuck up. It really did look like he was plugging his nose like it was Tony killing Christopher.
Holding up his last championship. It's not going to happen.
But imagine if it did. Okay.
Nope. Can't imagine.
Yeah, he was that that moment. I tweeted.
People got very upset at me because they said I was making fun of a kid's injury, which is like you're going to be brain dead. If you think I'm making fun of the kid, I'm making fun of Coach K.
He was using his medical training that he received in the Army. Oh, speaking of which, you think maybe Coach K's wife assaulting his grandson? I did see that.
Yeah, that was graphic. Yeah.
You think that will be in there? No. Put it on the list.
I can add it. For me.
I'll find it. Okay.
And then generic lock is someone crying. Yeah.
Me. We just don't know who.
Oh hep yeah yep yeah yeah so that's the list so far oh who are the kids that you were laughing at hank who are crying you laughed so hard at like a five-year-old crying so i think it was kentucky fan maybe yeah it was yeah you were just like ah that is one really nice thing to see again, coming back to the tournament. You literally love, like, you live for videos of people getting injured and, like, hurt.
Yeah, adults. And sometimes kids.
But, like, we don't realize how much we missed that last year. It was the sad fan reaction videos.
Yeah, the Northwestern kid. Yeah, the Villanova fluke girl crying.
We missed these moments without the fans. I always think about it from the control room, like the all-business Pete, the person in the truck that's like, find the cry.
Yeah, find the kid cry. And then when they get it, they're like, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom.
There's another big return that we're seeing this year, too, with the fans in the stands is horny camera guys that are just looking for a hot person in the crowd so that it cuts to them and they're like, look at this who's at this game yeah i'm bonking every cameraman that works for for the entire turner network any any yeah i'm trying to think if there's any other moments no i think that's a good list my brain is completely oh yeah it's it's fried but it was so much fun i love what jake Jake is like so sharp right now. I'm dead.
I'm a dead person.

The high and low. it's fried but it was so much fun i love what jake jake jake is like so sharp right now i'm i'm dead i'm a dead person the adrenaline gambling that much it's like jake is not really the adrenaline is uh it's pretty it's peaking right now oh yeah i'm out of gas out of gas right now like think about what we just did we were on the couch for a long time the last four days oh yeah why would that make would that make your adrenaline peak? No, I'm just saying because of what we did.
Without adrenaline, I don't know how we would do that. But you don't gamble, so that's the crazy part to me.
You just live off of the sport, which I love. It's pure.
He loves the excitement of the game. But there's something weird about sitting.
There's a sweet zone that you can sit on your ass for and not get more tired from sitting on your ass. But if you're on your ass for 12 hours a day for three, four days in a row, it actually makes you exhausted to be sitting for that long.
It was important to stand up and just like pace a little bit. All right.
Great recap, Jake. Thank you.
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Take number one.

Tape delayed, take number one.

That Memphis-Konzaga game was the game of the tournament.

Yeah.

That was one where I wanted to keep just betting the live over no matter what it was going to be.

It was so awesome.

Just up and down, up and down.

I do have, so I still hate Drew Timmy, for the record. He was incredible.
He played awesome yesterday. He did miss some foul shots, but I'm doing the thing from memento to myself where I'm like tattooing on my body, don't believe Drew Timmy's lies.
He will come back and he will hurt you eventually. But you're right.
Credit to him. He played an awesome game.
He basically was like, I'm going to put the entire team on my little narrow shoulders and we'll carry us into the Sweet 16. He also had Jake Marsh approved post-game speech.
Let's put it in right here. All right, Drew.
I heard you in the hallway motivate this team. What did you say in that locker room? I said, I'll give a flying F what happens at the end of the game.
Whether we lose or win, we're not going out as no soft guys. Leave it all on the floor because it could be your last 20.
Hey man, if you go all out and we still lose, play with no regrets. We took that to heart and we came out with the win fortunately.
Give credit to Memphis, man. They really brought it in the way they turned their season around.
It's pretty remarkable. Just finding every way to not swear, even though it was clear that he went into the halftime, was like, you bunch of pussies, we got to fucking win this game.
Otherwise, I'm never going to look at you motherfuckers in the face ever again. I'm a Chet guy, though.
I'm Team Chet. Chet's not in a position where he can give that type of pump-up speech yet.
Yeah. Chet's a perfect guy to give a pump-up speech, too.
Dude, Chet. All right.
So, obviously, it's very easy to say Chet Holmgren skinny. We all know that.
I thought, like, his defense is already at a point where it's like, okay, this guy can be an elite rim protector. Because he was playing guys who were 70 pounds heavier than him.
And, yeah, a couple times they got the best of him. But I think he was like a plus 18 in a four-point game.
He was so good defensively and every time they went in the post, the guys are way heavier than him. He's finding ways to block shots, alter shots.
I'm a Chet believer. I'm a full-on Chet believer.
I like Chet. I love Chet.
Chet's my favorite player on that team and there's not really a close second for me. It's like trying to shoot a layup.
Mark Fuse dogs. Well, I like the one that jumped in the front seat.
Yeah. The one that caused him to get the DUI.
Correct, correct. Not the passive little bitch in the back.
Yes. Yeah, no, I love watching Chet play defense.
He's like trying to shoot a layup over a tree. He's very, very slender, but he is like, I think all the mass that's on his arms is actually muscle.'s just not much of it well you know i'm saying like he's he's got like a uh if you took a marathoner and just stretched them out on a table yeah uh and made him into be like a six foot ten person that's kind of like the biotype he has here's the thing too you can always you can always gain weight you can never get taller yeah and he does what i mean like he's got the height well that's the thing he actually might not be done growing yet because he's like 18 or 19 years old yeah i keep telling myself that i'm a big yeah you do you you do love the delayed onset growth yeah no sometimes you've heard stories like there's some guy in china that grew a foot when he was like 50 years old yeah yeah it happens um but that game was incredible the pace was so awesome and gonzaga was a true, true test for them.
So they're in the Sweet 16, I think, seven straight years. So I guess they're okay.
Yeah, they must have won a lot of titles. Yeah, exactly.
The other games, shout out Juwan Howard's PR team. Cool.
Because that was – now, I know people will be like, he knows Kennedy Chandler. He coached – you know, his son played with him when they were kids.
He wanted to get him on Michigan. Kennedy Chandler, star on Tennessee.
After the game, he has like this long embrace, which I think he was trying to hug him to death, knowing his anger problems. That's probably what was happening.
But talk about a spin for like public opinion. You're down 10 in the first round of colorado state you win that game you beat tennessee now you're there's always one of those moments in march where basically if you can get seth davis to tweet like this is what march is all about it's about the kids you've won the public opinion battle it was actually faith and humanity restored yeah my faith and humanity was so restored when he was hugging that kid who was crying it's unbelievable how quickly it got restored they should give me a job on tbs doing the halftime coverage at the desk yeah if as long as you can just say that your faith in humanity has been restored and tweet out a video that's that's really the qualification but you also can't kill anyone who's still alive that's also true shout out pete Pete Killen, still alive.
So, real quick, though. The whole, like, restored faith in humanity.
You have to lose your faith at some point. Well, we did.
When he smushed Joe Krabbenhoff. No, but he can't just.
Rex Chapman can't just, like, continually have it be restored. It goes back and forth.
He has to lose it. He has to, like, tweet out a picture of, like, a cat dying and be like, Oh, no.
I hate humanity now. I think it's every day he goes on Twitter and someone tweets him like, Rex, you're like a mask-loving loser.
And he loses his faith in humanity. And then someone tweets him a picture of a dog and he's like, restore.
Restore. Got it back.
Yeah, bro. We don't deserve masks.
But let's get this mask on this dog, please. Yeah.
So as far as the game goes, I love Zekai Ziegler. I think he was my favorite player in college basketball this year.
5'9", short king. Electric, just extreme lateral quickness.
He's so much fun to watch. I'm sad that I don't get to watch him anymore in this tournament.
That's my biggest takeaway. My second biggest takeaway is that Rick Barnes is still Rick Barnes.
And I fellick barnes's trick which is the most rick barnes thing that he can do is to make me forget that rick barnes is rick barnes it's it's when we had titus on last week and we talked about narratives and you know titus watches a ton of college basketball and thinks about it you know in a deeper level than we do so i think someone like him he's like well it's not all narratives, but at some point you should have to trust the narrative. Like Fran McCaffrey doesn't go to the Sweet 16.
Rick Barnes is 25 and 25 all time in the tournament. And I saw some Tennessee fans being like, how many other coaches have 25 wins? Well, I mean, yeah, not many, but when you have teams consistently, and they're going to do the same thing next year, they'll be like top five at some point.
They'll probably beat Kentucky. And I follow way too many Vol fans.
I shouldn't say it that way. I follow a lot of Vol fans.
I am Vol for life. I love Tennessee.
When I went there, it was awesome. Watching their meltdown on Twitter, I felt very bad for them because it was essentially that, like, we fell for this again.
Well, yeah, they knew that in the back of their head, they knew it was going to happen. But they had been just, like, lying to themselves all year saying this team.
It did feel a little bit different. It felt like after the run that they made in the SEC tournament, like, that seemed like, what's the difference between? You're also Tennessee leveraged heavily.
I am very leveraged in my Tennessee fandom. Goodbye to all of our futures.
I had my future. I work closely with Big T.
His happiness is important to me. But I was fooled a little bit, too.
They pulled the wool over my eyes. The hot team going into the tournament.
But what's the difference between being able to coach a team in the SEC tournament as opposed to coaching a team in the big dance? Well, he couldn't until this year. They hadn't won the SEC tournament in like 40 years.
Yeah, but I'm just saying it doesn't make any sense to me how bad Rick Barnes has been in the NCAA tournament over his career, considering the talent that he's had. Yeah, I know.
And the teams that he's had have been good, well-coached teams during the regular season. And Michigan deserves credit.
Michigan is, if you asked a Michigan fan in November, would you be happy with a Sweet 16? They'd be like, no, we expect that. If you asked them in January, they'd be like, please, we'd love that.
We're spiraling. So their season is a bizarre season.
My national championship pick preseason. Really? How's the bracket doing? Well, oh, I mean, it was dead.
That wasn't the bracket pick? No. You had two picks? I had a preseason national championship pick in the bracket.
Got it. Which one is your secondary pick? It died on Thursday.
Friday was Shiva. Okay.
So you have two picks for winner. No, I mean, if you want to look at it that way.
You're like Drake. Yeah.
You love them all. Yeah.
You'll come out on top. Just add another couple teams.
I do like watching Hunter Dickinson play. Yeah.
His little fucking hooks on the baseline are so sweet. The hooks are incredible.
He's a good passer, too. I think he made a very, very smart decision.
He got off the black shoes, and now he's wearing the white shoes. That's a guy that when he's wearing the black shoes, he seems like Chris Mullen back in the day, just like stopping like the Jolly Green Giant running down the court.
But he looks more fluid now, and he's fun to watch play. I have a question for you.
So Baylor lost to UNC. They came back.
It was an all-time ref show. UNC fans were very upset, rightfully so in some parts, but it still was a 25-0 run or whatever it was.
So afterwards, so this is now since Florida repeated with Billy Donovanovan and joe kim no one of those guys there's been no repeat national champion there's actually last five years i think the the national champion has failed to get out of the round of 32 there's been like you you have a list of teams that either didn't qualify for the tournament after they won the title or they didn't get very far in the tournament I know all of this because Scott Drew tweeted it which I feel like is just major loser energy he tweeted a graphic that I think was made by Fox showing all the national champions previous national champions the last 15 years he tweeted 358 division one teams not easy to repeat thank you for all the supportive messages to the team they gave gave a great effort all year long. We couldn't have done it without your support.
Thank you. And then it's a graphic saying defending men's champions in NCAA tournaments since 06-07 and just a list of all of their failures in the next tournament.
That's a weird thing to do. You let your fan base say that because it is hard to repeat.
No, you let your burner say that. That's where your burner –.
You tweet out, like, congratulations to the UNC Tar Heels. They played a great game.
We're disappointed with how our season ended, but we will fight and work harder in the offseason and come back and look to restore Baylor to our once proud traditions of last year. Right.
And then you reply to that tweet with your burner, and then you like that tweet from your real account so that people see that you like that tweet, and then they retweet it's how the game is done you don't tweet it out yourself tremendous energy no i followed everything yeah yeah you gotta you gotta you gotta you gotta slyly signal boost with the like yeah the ghost retweet right and then just be like oh thanks you know i appreciate that it wow it is hard to repeat yeah people are gonna say that for you or you can even reply to that and be like, wow, that's a great point. I never thought of this.
Yeah, that's insane. At NotScottDrew.
Yeah, I saw it and I was like, wait, why is he tweeting this? Let other people say that. Yeah, I don't like that at all.
But you're right, it was a ref show. There was something weird going on.
I hope that those officials aren't going to work for the rest of the tournament. Because although I didn't really have a dog in the fight, I took Baylor on an alternate line, so that was dead before it even started.
But it's so disappointing to see a team come back from like 22 points down and then lose in overtime. Run out of gas.
Yeah, I think they were up in overtime and UNC was the underdog. So like it was – oh, no, sorry.
UNC was leading in overtime, but they were still the underdog. The – college basketball has a ref problem.
It just does. Like, we all know it.
It's just – they're stupid. You know, that technical foul that was called earlier today against Illinois or against Houston.
No, it was against Illinois for hanging on the rim. Charge calls are very hard to figure out what exactly is going to be a charge in this game.
None of it really makes sense. It's just every game you go into in college basketball, you could just tweet before the game, it's a ref show, and like 90% of the time you'd be right.
Ref show. Yeah, ref show.
It's a ref show. That's a Frank's got in my head.
But we do have the Blue Blood Sweet 16 now. UCLA versus UNC.
Mick Cronin. People need to start putting more respect on Mick Cronin's game for being a great.
I'm going to call him a tactician. Dude, he's a great coach.
He's a great coach. In-game tactician.
And his dad, Hep, is back. Yep.
All Hep C in the stands. Yes.
That guy's awesome. He was like hugging people left and right around him.
Jake, you got what? I was laughing when he said Hep's back. I think it's a funny storyline.
You like Hep C, right? No. That is his name.
Yeah. He's Hep C.
It is Hep C. But yeah, Hep is a good basketball dad.
And Mick Cronin, we were right about Mick Cronin. Yeah.
And by right, we mean like we just happened to interview him and we liked him.

So we said he was going to be good.

Yeah, at some point we said he's a good coach.

Yeah.

And we've been proven right time and time again.

That's going to be a great matchup though.

Yeah, I'm worried about – you really don't know what is wrong with Hacquez's –

I can check right now.

I also just love UCLA because they have Jaime Hacquez and Juzang

and it's just fun to say their names.

And then – Tiger Campbell. Yeah, Tiger Campbell.
They got some names. They got a fun name squad.
It's like Wofford a couple years ago when they had all those guys. Storms Brewing.
Yeah, Storm Murphy, who's now Virginia Tech. All right, should we do who's back? Are you going to find me? I'm looking right now.
All right, give me a report. Day-to-day right ankle sprain.
Day-to-day right ankle, fuck. Okay.
They do play Friday, there we go so yeah extra day that's a lot of rest that's extra day of rest um all right let's do who's back we are obviously not talking about st peter's because we're gonna have shaheem holloway on so we're giving st peter's a ton of shine in a second probably the story of the weekend in terms of you Even Oral Roberts roberts in florida gulf coast they took the world by storm but st peter's is by far the smallest of the yeah i think fgcu was just the flashiest but you could because of the way they did it right because the dunks and everything i saw it somewhere since st peter's is like one of the least funded basketball programs in the country so yeah we yeah, we're going to have Shaheen on. We'll talk about it because it has been an incredible, incredible ride for them.
All right, let's see who's back in the week. Hank, would you like to start? I have a few.
Okay. Nice.
Came prepared for once. Yeah, I think you're going to have one, so I don't want to take it necessarily.
Go for it. Yeah, go for it.
What do you think mine is? Ferrari. Oh, no, but we back ferrari's all the way back first uh f1 waste of the year they finished one two one two push push push push and is that p p1 p1 p2 couldn't couldn't be better three and verstappen uh i i could listen to verstappen bitch on the radio forever because he's an ultimate something's wrong, not me guy.
It was his car was wrong, like fucked up. He actually had to get disqualified or whatever.
Retire. He had to retire mid-race or end of the race.
But Ferrari, that was a good long play by me because they were like the Yankees. And they sucked last year.
I was like, I'm going to get in now. Ferrari fan for life.
You guys know me. I love Ferrari.
This is the first race of the year? Yes. Bahrain.
When's the next one? Probably two weeks. I did see the post-race interview with Toto Wolff.
Yeah. That guy is not real.
He's awesome. There's no chance that he's a real human being.
He's like a supervillain. he's the white whale for this podcast yeah i've been saying for a while just by he's a he's a white whale accent for this podcast like he would be all time i would listen to him and and uh morton anderson do a podcast together yeah just about like secret layers that they have but yeah it was fun it was fun to see uh f1 back i learned about drs that's like apparently there's just a nos button that you can hit if you're within like a second of the person in front of you.
Yep. You can hit a NOS? Yeah.
Well, I think it's the flaps, right? On the back of your car or something? Yeah, you hit a button. It's like I don't fully understand it.
Why don't they just hit that button the entire time? That's what I was asking. You have to hit the DRS zone.
You have to. Yeah.
I would just hit it the entire time. I have some questions on how that could be definitely exploited.
Like, whoops, accidentally hit the NOS button. Oh, you get a penalty.
Because remember, the best part about F1 is those guys bitch about each other more than any sport ever. Wait till you see the last episode.
Yeah, Christian Horner basically spends half of his job is to say Toto's cheating. It's the ultimate ref show.
Yeah. Yes, it is.
Okay. Good one.
My other one was Patty. That was mine.
That was that was mine all right so patty the baddie's back i'll do mine real quick patty back uh our our colleague patty the baddie put on an electric show making the meatball making the meatball his friend um who i think is going to also be our colleague but patty the baddie's going to be a star i'm so excited he he choked out the guy in what like three minutes it looked bad for a second yeah he got tagged early and and kind of fell to the ground got a little wobbly he recovered he's so fun to watch when he gets into these like weird submission poses because like he'll jump on your face yeah he will do he's so crazy flexible he's got these long legs it looks like either a snake or like some some sort of bug just wrapping somebody up and making them completely helpless. It's got to be the most helpless thing in the world to have Patty just draped on your neck, and you can't do shit about it.
He's wrapped around every limb just slowly choking you out. Who do you think he called out next? We're on a UFC podcast.
He called out Mark Zuckerberg. So he said good who I want to fight Mark Zuckerberg lad I'm gonna punch your head in I'm sick of you lad sick of you shutting my Instagram accounts down all I do is I help charities and help people with mental health problems you're the biggest bully in the world lad so let's get it let's do it I I just love Patty too because his haircut and just how he looks and then he kicks your ass.
It's got to be so demoralizing. For sure.
Yeah, he's the best. All right, so PFT, you're who's back.
Yeah, I was going to do Patty the Batty. Obviously, I think we all had Patty the Batty.
Our brains basically have just like a bouncing basketball around, back and forth, and then every now and then Patty's face shows up. It's like, hey, remember me? Yeah, I mean, all of us have been staring at the exact same screens for the last two and a half days.
So I think we're probably on the same wavelengths with your brain getting drowned out by techno music. Yeah, that's true.
I had a little PTSD today when I went to the bar and I was like, oh my God, I don't think I can do this. I think I'm done with bars for forever.
I think last night I went to my last bar. There you go.
I'm retiring. I'm officially retiring from the bar game.
No farewell tour. Very classy.
No farewell game. So you're going to let Coach K outlast you? When it's time, you just know it's time.
PFT went out to the bar last night and ordered 20 beers. That's true.
At one time. That's true.
I walked upstairs. There's a lot of us.
Well, now let's tell the full story here. We had, how many people were with us's a shit load of people No no this was at the after At least five At least five people were with us And the place was like a little bit crowded People were still feeling it out We didn't know what the vibe there was yet And I thought let's make a move I went up I got 20 beers And I got 20 cups And then I found a little table And then I got a game of, and then I got to give him a flip cup going.
And everybody had a great time. That's awesome.
Such a great time, you never want to go back to a bar. Never again.
And on a high note, you're like John Elway. I also got into a fight, a bar fight at the end of the night.
A real bar fight? Almost, almost. I had to back the guy down.
It's like almost getting arrested? No, I mean, ask Tom Lay what happened. The guy was in Tom Lay's face, and I was like, I said, if you've got a problem with Tom, you've got a problem with me.
And I'd think about that if I were you. Wait, so White Sox Dave just backed down after that? Yeah, he just tucked tail and ran away.
No, last night was a movie, man. I enjoyed myself.
Jake got a little drunk. Oh, man.
Did you talk to any girls in their ear forcefully? No. I noticed that Jake was not mixing in waters.
I was not. He was just going full diesel beer.
I had to go home because I got way too drunk on Friday night for the Badger game and that live stream. Yeah.
Also, of course, Jake is just the best at flip cup. Yeah, of course.
Yeah, without a doubt. He just got it every time.
Also, Jake was being very, very honest as a flip cup player,

where he saw his teammate cheating, and after the game was over,

he forfeited.

Oh, I paused mid-game.

Yeah, you called him out.

You called him out, and you said restart.

Integrity of the game.

Jake was policing the game.

Yeah, I'm like that.

It's like Little League.

All right, Jake, who's your who's back?

My who's back is the Masters hype, not commercials, plus the commercials.

Where are they doing it this year, Augusta?

Yeah, they moved it from TPC Sawgrass.

It's a Rico Bosco original.

Our brains are just so fine.

So the par three contest.

I actually saw the Masters commercial, and I said his stupid fucking joke in my head.

I was like, oh, they're doing it at Augusta again this year?

My brain is actually shockingly like 50% just Rico Bosco quotes. Yes, yes.
Okay, sorry, Jay. In the tank.
The part three contest is back. The grandstands are back, so the roars will return.
Oh, nice. Yeah.
Nothing like a Sunday roar when Tiger's chasing after his prey. Is there a chance he plays? No.
Brooks. Brooks.
This is the year. Max actually guaranteed that he was good.
He has momentum, right? Max personally guaranteed to me that he's going to make the cut. So if he doesn't, he's got to retire.
He said, if I don't make the cut, I'm retiring. So everyone hold him to that on Twitter.
So on Wednesdays, that's when they do the practice round, right? That's a par three. Yeah, they usually have the father's son go, Max should bring one of us along as his son.
Yeah. He'd probably be sick of the par three because it's not actual golf.
Right. That's what he shines.
Yeah, it's right in the middle of the week. Yeah, the PlayStation Open.
It's as far away from the weekend as you can possibly get. That's where Max...
It's a good thing to deal with the depression of college basketball ending, just having the three-day week. Whoa, whoa.
No, I, I'm just saying the hype around it. We're still in the middle of the tournament.

I know.

I'm just saying it's a week from now.

Don't be depressed yet on me.

I won't.

You're getting pretty depressed.

Okay, I'm sorry.

That's a very Jewish grandmother of you.

Like, when you go visit, like, when will you visit me?

We're here.

We're in the tournament.

You got this.

We still got games left.

We're good.

We're going to go to the Final Four.

You're credentialed at the Final Four.

I am.

All right, good, good. Yeah, I'm excited, good, good Yeah, I'm excited Cheer up Yeah, I'm good Alright Pick yourself up We're good, we're good You want me to do Timmy, you fucking pussy Get up and get off the mat I don't give a flying half I don't give a flying half I'm gonna give a flying half You loved that speech, didn't you? That was a great speech You ever go on a vacation And when you're on the way to your vacation, you start thinking about how much it's going to suck coming back to work? Yeah.
Yeah, don't do that to us, Jake. Okay, so we've all been there.
We're right in the thick of it right now. It's a natural thing to think.
Listen, I always get a little sad after the first four days because it is my favorite four days of the year. Yeah, so I'm supposed to be the positive guy here.
So disgusting i said that i apologize thank you very sanctions are you sanctioning yourself self-imposed ban uh next wednesday from watching college basketball wait a second that's not n it cbi if it is it is shout out that guy who gave me a cbi lock of the day yesterday are Are they still doing the pineapple thing? Like, is it a tournament for swingers? I don't know. It wasn't like the golden pineapple was the trophy? For the CBI? I think it was.
Yeah, that guy, he just, he really, like, hit at my heartstrings where if you just are in public and see me and tell me a lock convincingly enough, I'll just be like, okay, I'm in. Also, shout out the guy that I met at the bar last night.
They kept coming up to me and telling me that he had a lock, a lock the Millennium today because he went 8-0 yesterday, and his lock for today's games was UNC. Oh.
And I kept telling him, UNC played earlier today. I watched the game.
Money line. And then he kept coming back and telling me, you got to bet UNC tomorrow.
He was right. He was right.
He might be a time traveler. Yeah, he was right.

Who's exactly correct.

Yes, yes. I think, Bubba, he gave you that lot too, right?

About 15 times.

Oh, well, you guys should have taken it.

Yeah, we should have.

We should have.

We should have.

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And now here's Coach Holloway. Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest.
It is head coach of the St. Peter's Peacocks, Shaheen Holloway, who now has his team as a 15 seed into the Sweet 16.
They are the story of the tournament. Coach, should we start with your quote? Because that quote went viral.
It was incredible when you said you've got guys from New Jersey and New York City. You think we're scared of anything.
How tough is your locker room? Because I know that, you know, you could say that, but is it really that tough where guys are just going to these games against Kentucky and saying we got this? Well, let me clear that out first. First of all, fellas, thanks for having me on, man.
I'm a big fan. You guys do a tremendous job.
I love the fact that you guys say what y'all mean, mean what y'all say.

That's big time to me, man.

I'm from Jamaica, Queens,

New York, so that's up my alley.

Cool to you guys

for that. Second of all,

excuse my voice a little bit. It's been a long weekend.

I'm a little hoarse.

That quote

is funny because you get the

end of it, but you don't get the whole quote.

The question was asked,

how did you guys

Thank you. But so that like that quote is funny, right? Because you get the end of it, but you don't get the whole quote.

So the question was asked, you know, how did you guys, you know, handle that?

You know, Murray State is a very physical team.

They know to beat people up.

They know that one.

I said, you know what I said, like, come on, man.

Like, I got guys from New York and New Jersey.

Like, this is what we do.

Especially if you watch my team since I've been here, that's what we build off. We build off out-hustling people, out-scrapping people, you know, being a tougher team.
So to answer your question, yeah, I got some dudes in my locker room, man. I love it.
I got some dudes in there. I love it.
And being a guy that's from the area, that went to school in the area, that's coached in the area, it's good to see, like, the players of New York playing in the area because I feel like a lot of times there's a lot of great players that come out of this area, but they end up getting recruited by a blue blood or they go all across the country. It's just good to see them staying local and kind of putting something on the map here in New Jersey for you.
I'm curious, when you were going into that game against Kentucky, before the game even started, are you a pump-up speech guy? Did you have anything special planned to motivate your guys? I'll be honest with you, big dog. If I got to pump you up to go play against Kentucky in the NCAA tournament, something's wrong.
I told these guys, listen, if you guys go into the game and not worry about the name on the front of the jersey, we're going to be fine. Go in there and play your game.
Do what you do. Act like it's open gym.
Just go out there and play and ball, you know, and don't worry about it. Have fun.
Like, we got nothing to lose. Like, nobody expected us to be here.
Like, if we make the game close, they're going to get a little tight, and anything can happen. But also, to tell you the truth, also know, like, my guys, I got a bunch of guys on my team, and this is funny, and you guys are going to laugh, I got a bunch of guys on my team that think they belong at Kentucky.
Yeah. So they think they belong at schools like that.
So, okay, here's your time to show it. Yeah.
Go out there and prove it. And that's why, I mean, March Madness, that's why this tournament is so special, is because you have stories like this.
We've seen the stat thrown around. This was the first time a New Jersey team won a tournament game since 2000 when you were playing the point guard for Seton Hall.
Now, is that that's kind of a like sneaky, like insult stat, because you also coached as an assistant coach at Seton Hall. So do you take that status? Oh, that's cool.
Wait, they're basically saying when I was a coach under coach Willard, we didn't win any games. Oh, here we go.
You know what? It's funny, right? Because like you can, you can take it both ways. Right.
I didn't know that until late last night. Well, early this morning, somebody told that to me.
That's incredible. You know, with all the success that we had at Seton Hall, you know, when I was there with Coach and after I was there with Coach Willard and what Rutgers is doing right now is phenomenal.
I didn't know that. You know, and that's kind of surprising.
It's surprising to me. Yeah.
To tell you the truth. Because, you know, man, you're right, man.
You think about it, that's a crazy stat. And, like, people can take it all kind of ways.
Like, you can take it all kind of ways. I don't think that we could knock the success that Coach Willard had at Seton Hall.
It's been a phenomenal run. I mean, the things he's done there was big time.
Yeah. Yeah.
And I know that that was – I'm not going to make you talk about another job, but your old boss, Kevin Willard, kind of screwed you on Saturday morning when he's like, Shaheen would be great for the Seton Hall job right before you have the biggest game of your life. It's funny because, you know, I didn't even, so I kind of just stayed off social media.
I told my pleasure to stay off social media. My wife actually told me about it.
And you know what? I said, that's coach.

That's him trying to, you know,

I don't think he meant anything by it. That's him trying to pump me.

I worked for him for 11 years.

I'm an alumni of the school, right?

So, if nothing

else, I could cheer for C-Hall.

I'm an alumni. I'm an alum.

Forget anything else. Forget working there.

I'm an alum. I want those guys to do well.

I thought that was just him just trying to, you

know, his mind trying to help me out.

Yeah. By the way, I just got to correct.
That

was last time Seton Hall won a game

because I know Rutgers fans are going to be all up

in my ass because I said New Jersey

by accident. And our stat guy's looking

at me right now being like, you're an idiot.

We've had a long four days too.

So, sorry. I'm just going to correct myself.

Yeah, I'd like to apologize also for our

voices because if you think

We're going to... me right now being like you're an idiot we've we've had a long four days too so sorry i'm just gonna correct myself yeah i'd like to apologize also for our voices because if you think what do you think is harder to do coach two games in the ncaa tournament and win them as a 15 seed or watch 32 games be played uh over the course of two days screaming at your television as loud as you can in a bar drinking beers? Well'll be honest you i don't drink right so i would say coaching because like when you're coaching there's a rush that is hard to explain now i've been on the other end watching games and yelling too so i get it trust me i definitely get it yeah it's been a battle out here who is um who's the guy on your team right now that's the biggest dog? Who's the guy that is the one that is like the toughest, the one that gets his teammates up, the one that was the least intimidated going up against some of these big schools? Well, like none of them is intimidated.
So let me put that out there. You know, I got two twins that this is what they love to do.
Like they love to go out there and mix it up. Obviously, Casey Deffo is our emotional leader.
I think the toughest guy, people are laughing, is Doug Edder. You know, people laugh about his mustache.
Doug is one of the toughest guys on my team. Like, he loves this.
He built for it. But, like, I'll be honest, like, my whole team, man, like, like, they kind of follow my personality.

I play this way, right?

I play with a triple of my shoulder, being 5'10", having something to prove.

You know, God telling me I couldn't do this, I couldn't do that. And, you know, being a McDonald's All-American and a top five player,

my player is the best point guard.

Like, I took all that stuff, that's a few, to the fire.

And these guys played that same exact way.

Some of these guys didn't get recruited heavily. Some of these guys didn't get recruited at all.
You know, same piece with the only school. So some of these guys have a chip on their shoulder.
Yeah. I mean, the fact that you guys beat Kentucky and the guy's name is Doug and he's got that terrible mustache.
And I think I said he looks like a guy who should be like, you know, selling you cigarettes at a 7-11 instead he just he just shot 100 from the field against Kentucky that's it was so great and you could tell Doug is a dog like that guy's not scared of anything he is a perfect March Madness player like the story and everything behind it is just so perfect no that's that's Doug Doug I first got the job. Doug played AU for a guy.
I used to play for a San Diego Paoni with the roadrunners. He told me he had a kid and I went to go watch him and I loved him.
I mean, I loved everything about his game. His toughness.
He could make shots. He was fearless.
He was, you know, not backing down. I was like, yeah, I got to have this kid.
When you took over the job, I have to imagine that you step in,

you have to change the culture.

We hear coaches talk about culture a lot.

What did you do?

What, from the get-go, was your mindset in telling the guys,

okay, this is what our culture is going to be here?

Well, first thing first, I thought Coach Dunn did an unbelievable job here,

John Dunn at St. Peter's.

But I just wanted to get local players.

That was my main thing. Anywhere I've been as a coach, when I coached at Iona, we had local players.
When I coached at C.H.O.N., we had local players. In both of those places, we had a lot of success with local players.
So my main thing was to get local players. Like you said earlier in the show, make sure that the guys stay home.
So you look at my team. My team is kind of built around guys from the New York, new jersey connecticut philadelphia area dc area like i want guys like like those guys um are guys that i want to play guys that like like i said earlier have something to prove chip on their shoulder under recruited tough hard nose because you got to be tough to play for me if you ain't tough you can't play when it when it comes to dougie dirt and that's what i call him now he's just in, in my mind, he's just Dougie Dirt.
We do love the mustache. The mustache, has that been there all year, or is it something that, because I can't have him shave the mustache before the next round.
He's got to keep it. No, he starts shaving the mustache, so we went on COVID pause the end of Christmas, like around New Year's time.
He started growing it while he was in COVID, when he was in quarantine.

And then he just kept it.

And then I think his girlfriend liked it,

so he stayed on with it.

I don't like it, but you know what?

Right now, it's big.

It's helping him.

It's helping us, so keep it.

Let it grow some more.

Yeah.

Yes.

You can't change it now.

I was reading an article,

because when I saw St. Peter's, we've all had this moment we we saw saint peter's pop up you guys beat kentucky uh hank our producer sitting right next to me he lives like down the block from saint peter's he's like oh my god that's right down the block i read an article this yeah thanks stand up hang yeah jersey hank yes jersey hank i i was thinking about it too i was like why are they so familiar sounding and then I was reading an article and it dawned on me that in 2009 you guys played that game at 6am you weren't there but that's what St.
Peter's basketball was they played a game they literally scheduled a game at 6am to try to get eyeballs on it and they gave out free bagels yeah the, whoa, oh, this is a team. But like you guys are probably the one of the lower funded schools in terms of basketball program in the country.
Is that what does that look like when you play against Kentucky? Is it like uniforms? Is it is it sneakers? I mean, is it that hard? You know, the uphill battle you have fighting against these these big teams. You know what? You know, you know, we are, you know, since I've been there, I've been trying to, you know, make the place better for the kids.
I understand that the kids love having things, you know, so we had a gentleman, Tom McMahon, who donated a lot of money for a new arena, you know. Wow.
And there's a lot of other people that was responsible for that, but he was the guy who gave the biggest gift for that and my thing talking to him was listen like we gotta make this place a place where people call this their home and they appreciate it so we got a brand new locker room brand new weight room things like that so since I've been here we kind of like right now we got three uniforms you know multiple sweatshirt sneakers kids care about that right? So when you go and play the Kentuckys of the world,

yeah, absolutely.

Like, they got big-time stuff.

It's Kentucky.

But like I said, some of my guys think they belong there.

So in their mind, they're not even looking at it like that.

They're not even looking at it like that.

Oh, all right.

Well, I can show Coach Kyle while he got to try to recruit me next year.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

And now trying to make my job extra hard because now they're going to be in the transfer portal. Like, what are we doing? You know what I'm saying? So when are you going to start watching film? When does that process start for you for the next round? So tonight we're going to watch the game.
We're doing Texas game, see who we play. Once that game is over, right away.
Just snapping right to it. And I like the fact that you're a point guard head coach.

I feel like point guards make the best head coach.

Is that a fair statement?

Wow.

Well, I appreciate that.

You know, I don't want to say that because that might come off sounding crazy.

But thank you for saying that.

But I think, you know, being a point guard is like being a quarterback.

So you out there, you understand the game.

You know every position, what everybody's supposed to do.

So we kind of make the, you know, good coaches.

So I won't say they're the best coaches, but I think it's something to it.

Yeah.

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Peter's yeah yeah but it's crazy again it's why I love this tournament like you get how many I don't know how many titles North Carolina UCLA UCLA have between them. And then there's St.
Peter's. And America's rooting for St.
Peter's. Now, you know what? I'll be honest with you.
Last week, we won a MAAC tournament, the MAAC championship. And that still hasn't hit me yet.
Everything happened so quick. And this hasn't hit me yet either.
I'm just enjoying the ride. I don't want the dream to be over.
I just want to see it out. But I will tell you this.
It don't matter who we play. And I said this before we went to the tournament.
It doesn't matter who we play. My team is not going to be intimidated.
We're going to go out there and play as hard as anybody and give it everything we got. I love it.
I love it. One thing I find fascinating about your team is you're the Peacocks, the St.
Peter's Peacocks.

But you have maybe the most understated jerseys in college basketball.

It's like, you know, just the solid blue.

Is there any sort of alternate uniform or any sort of team gear that kind of struts off more of that, like, Peacock flair?

No, you know what?

When I first got here, I wanted to change that around to tell you the truth.

Right?

Peacock is what it is. So we got three uniforms.
We got a navy. We got a gray.
We got a black. This year is the first year I was having a black.
I think the black is sharp and smooth. But the blue, we've been winning with the blue.
So that's why we kind of stayed with it. Right.
So going into the MAAC tournament, we won four straight games. And in the MAAC tournament, we was like the higher C, so we had to wear gray.
So the whole team wanted to wear blue. I mean, black going to the NCAA tournament.
I'm like, are y'all nuts? We just won four in a row in blue. Like, we're wearing navy.
So we're just going to stick with the blue. I like it.
Keep with the blue. Keep with Dougie Dirt's mustache, too.
Yes. Don't change horses.
I mean, that's damn, man. He's a phenomenon because of that.
I don't think, even if I'm trying to get him the cutoff, it's not coming off. I love it.
I love it. Well, Coach, we appreciate you taking your time with us.
We are all rooting for the Peacocks, the least intimidating mascot in the world, but we're rooting for them. It is tough to be like, the fighting Peacocks.
Here they come. What? Okay, you guys should get a live Peacock, like Mike the Tiger.
a live peacock in the new arena that'd be sick no you know what man i i definitely appreciate you guys having me on i know you guys are super busy you know you guys got you know a lot of people you won't have to interview this is humbling i'm very humbled by this i'm very my team is very humbled by what's going on with us right now. We're in the moment.

We want to stay in the moment.

It's been an unbelievable ride.

People have been behind us.

I appreciate you guys being behind us.

Friday night, tune in, lock in, man.

Let's get it going.

Yeah, we love it.

We're rooting for you. We want you to beat Texas or Purdue.

Then we want you to beat UNC or UCLA and keep advancing.

And enjoy the shine. You really deserve it.
This is's the, you know, this is your week. So enjoy the shine and all the kids.
And yeah, best of luck Friday night. Appreciate you guys, man.
Keep doing what y'all doing, man. It's great, brother.
Take care. Thank you, man.
Thank you, coach. Good luck.
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We got NFL free agency, MLB free agency. I have Jake has a whole list of that.
Let's start with some NFL. Deshaun Watson to the Browns.
Well, Deshaun Watson to the Browns after the Browns have conducted an extensive investigation. Yep, exhaustive.
Exhaustive investigation into how much they really want Deshaun Watson to be a Browns quarterback. All I'll say is that you would never see the Roonies make a move like this.
No, absolutely not. Absolutely not.
But yeah, Deshaun Watson. They're a team of class.
Yeah, what's so bigger, Mayfield? Does he even get—like, if he wanted to work out in the Browns facility right now, would he have a key card? I don't think that he's even in Cleveland. I think he just kind of left.
Yeah. I think he actually managed to do something that you don't see a lot in the NFL, which is he pulled an NBA.
Right. On the NFL.
Right. And the NFL usually doesn't take too kindly of that, but I think that since the Browns were able to get the guy that they wanted in the first place, then they're going to be happy to just try to get whatever they want.
I actually saw a hilarious take. I forget.
I need to look and see who it was. It's one of the usual suspects from ESPN, but they said that the best thing what the Browns should do if they really want to help Baker in the long run, if they want to treat their former player well, trade him for a shitty pick, like the shittiest pick that you can get, like a sixth or seventh rounder.
And then he will use that as motivation to come back and then play better in the future. So they should intentionally tank their trade value for him just to motivate him down the line.
I like that. And also let the new current team not give up a huge draft capital.
I don't know what would he even go for. I mean, he has one year.
I think his fifth-year option is coming up, so he's probably a third-rounder. I'm thinking maybe two third-rounders.
Maybe. Or maybe a guy that just got traded for two third-rounders.
Ooh, interesting. That'd be very funny.
I've reached a point where I don't hope that that happens just because I'd be very mean to do to carson west yes it would um what other nfl news did we have was there any other big trades or anything uh robert woods to the titans so no big trade no big trade um stafford re-signed oh you'll never win one in la no this is throwing money away hey i don't know what the the Rams are doing with their cap right now. They don't have any draft picks.
Whatever the fuck they want. They're just trying to sign people.
I don't see this working out in terms of a cogent team building strategy. No chance.
All right, Jake, give us the MLB. Carlos Correa was crazy.
Yeah, so I'll just do a quick running down the line. All right, we're going to grade each one.
A new team.

All right.

This is from CBS with the rankings, so it's credit to them.

Carlos Correa from the Astros to the Twins.

A-plus.

Oh, I would say B-plus.

Oh, A-plus. Because he can opt out after every year.

So I don't even know what the Twins are doing.

I also like that he's just leaving the Astros.

That's why I give it an A-plus.

Okay.

Corey Seager from the Dodgers to the Rangers.

F.

I'll go with a D-minus.

Listen, some people are... Ten-year deal.
Some people are two... Oh, that's an F.
Yeah, no, that's an F. 10 years? I'll include the deals, yeah.
Okay, that's an F. Chris Bryant, Giants to Rockies, seven years.
A-plus. Yeah, it's an A.
Quality guy. Solid A.
Yep. Marcus Simeon, Blue Jays to Rangers as well, seven years.
Rangers. Oh.
F'll say it's D minus because clearly they're building something.

Yeah.

And they have a new ballpark.

At least they're trying.

Freddie Freeman, Braves to Dodgers, six years.

A plus.

That's a, I like that.

Actually, no, I hate it for the Braves.

I love it for the Dodgers.

The Braves, many people are saying, are they better without Ronald Acuna?

Maybe they should have gotten rid of him.

They won the World Series without him.

Freddie Freeman, the heart and soul, the beating heart of that franchise for so many years.

Thank you. No, I understand.
Absolutely. This is old, but it's still a notable one that we need to refresh our memories on max shurs or dodgers to mets three years that actually does need a refresh yes f minus okay it makes me so angry uh another old one but still important javi bias mets to tiger six years i didn't know that i I did know that, but I forgot it, so thank you.

And lastly.

Wait, when did he sign?

He signed that a while ago, right?

Yeah.

Javi Baez is going to look weird in the Detroit Tigers uniform.

Yeah.

It's like too plain for him.

Yeah.

Nick Castellanos.

Where?

Reds to Phillies five years.

Oh, and the Phillies got Schwarber, too.

I like the Phillies.

They're going to mash some taters.

You know, the Phillies, they have the longest streak in the National League without making the playoffs. That's crazy.
Yeah. Is that true? I think so.
It was on the dozen. It was on the dozen.
I'm plagiarizing Jeff D. Lowe.
Yeah, you just stole that. Oh, you credited it, so you're fine.
Yeah, there you go. Thank you.
I credited it. Almost Rex Chapman.
Well, I wanted somebody else to say it. else to say it oh thank you jeff d low for being born and having a birthday because i i actually took a future on the browns last week and i got it at like i got it at like 30 to one or and it just cut in half when they got to sean thank you jeff d low damn um okay that is our show we'll everyone.
We'll be back in New York, back in studio on Tuesday. Talking a little Sweet 16.
Don't give up. Don't ever give up, Jake.
So excited. The madness, we still got.
For the Sweet 16. That's how you said it? For the Sweet 16.
You just went so excited. You are.
You're mad that we've already eaten half of the cake. What? March Madness cake You're sad about the half we've eaten No, we've eaten a third One weekend Sweet 16 weekend Games-wise we've eaten more than a half And final four weekend's gonna be awesome Yeah, it is Yeah, it is Alright, numbers 25 Give me a 69 for Billy 16 22 Oh, my God.
It's a dynasty. Whoa.
Ninth time. What? We had 47 at 7, 52 at 8.
Now 52 is at 9. Wow.
Just running off the score. 52 is domination.
You know what? 52 is a blue blood. Wow.
It really is. 52, 47 are the true blue bloods of numbers.
Yeah.

Wait, I read that wrong.

It's 54.

No, I'm just kidding.

It's 52.

All right.

We'll see everyone on Wednesday.

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Save me on me

Save me on me

Save me Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Take me off Thank you. I'll turn it to four weeks.
I'm rolling away.

I'm slowly learning that life is okay.

Stay on me.