Taylor Heinicke, Drive To 405 + Fyre Fest

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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we have Washington Commanders

Speaker 1 quarterback Taylor Heineke. Awesome interview with Taylor Heineke, the guy, as some of us have said over the course of the season.
Our guy. We are half half of the podcast is

Speaker 1 on the road, the other half in studio. We're going to catch up with everything that's gone on, including Hank Was Right.
Hashtag Hank was right.

Speaker 1 We also have Fire Fest of the Week, a great Friday show before we're all out in LA on Monday.

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Speaker 1 Today is Friday, February 4th. Hashtag Hank was right.

Speaker 1 We got to give it to Hank.

Speaker 3 Hashtag Hank was right.

Speaker 1 Clap it up for Hank. Snap.
He's got his.

Speaker 1 Since we've last recorded, Hank has gotten the full suck from Tom Brady, I would say. The full thing.
He got the entire thing.

Speaker 1 Hank, you want to, I mean, how do you feel? You got a thank you personally. You got a video that he released today.
Hank, you can now rest easy. You can die in peace.
I'm a soldier.

Speaker 3 On his Instagram story,

Speaker 4 someone put up a picture of the Brady for the Barcelon Sports County. He said, soldiers for life.
So I'm a soldier. Thank you, Tom.
And then, like I said, the video's coming. It came, and I came.

Speaker 1 It was beautiful. It was a beautiful video.

Speaker 4 Beautiful. You know, it's just a beautiful way to go out from Tom.

Speaker 1 Billy is so jealous that you're a soldier right now. So you guys see the video? PFT and Billy.
Billy and PFT are in Cincinnati right now.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we're actually in the mayor's office in Cincinnati we just spoke with uh with mayor pirival about the mayor's bet coming up so we got a video coming out next week about that gave him some advice going into that but uh we just finished a big hearty lunch of skyline chili billy is uh billy's in full billy mode right now he was he was on his best behavior around the mayor for 99% of the time that we were here he didn't really talk much he was very respectful we sat down to eat lunch and Billy was like, um mr.

Speaker 3 sir mayor uh thank you for having us it was like super polite and then, as the mayor was getting up to leave, Billy goes, Hey, uh, I got a dumb question. And the mayor's like, Okay.

Speaker 3 And Billy goes, Do you have access to like the behind the scenes security footage of when they shot that kid or they shot Harambe in the gorilla enclosure?

Speaker 1 And the mayor was like, What?

Speaker 1 I was like, Jesus, Billy.

Speaker 3 But it's, it's what you know, we should have expected. What was the answer?

Speaker 1 Yeah, wait, he definitely does. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 So, yeah, I actually he said he he said, he said, the city of Cincinnati is separate than the Cincinnati zoo and like there's like it's different but I'm like look you're the mayor if you wanted to you could call up the police chief who definitely has the footage and like check it out like you're telling me that the police chief isn't just like showing that to people I mean

Speaker 1 this is a hilarious moment where I understand PFT where you're coming from in terms of you were there and you had to live with Billy asking that question and it probably was very awkward but from afar because we didn't have to deal with that awkwardness that question is actually like, I want the answer to it as well.

Speaker 6 Imagine if I didn't ask that question.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Who could imagine a world where Billy didn't ask me?

Speaker 6 I was right there. And I didn't ask the question.

Speaker 3 I'll be honest. Billy has been a pleasure to be around for most of this trip.
There was a moment yesterday we were on the road, and he did look down at the speedometer and he goes, oh, we're like...

Speaker 3 Sneaky. This truck is sneaky going 100 miles an hour right now.
Like he wasn't the one driving it. Like the truck was just going 100 miles per hour.

Speaker 3 And he's like, well, the truck carries the speed well. Like somebody who's big bone, got a big frame, but they wear their weight well.

Speaker 3 But he's been good. He drove like 11 hours, 13 hours total yesterday, actually.
11 hours we got into Cincinnati. It's raining.
It's sleeting. There's a lot of ice.

Speaker 3 Gonna try to make it to Memphis tonight. So

Speaker 3 we've been pretty busy, but I did have an opportunity to look at that Tom Brady video today. And I was just happy for Hank.
I was happy that Hank got everything that he wanted out of his guy.

Speaker 3 It kind of almost feels, though, like you guys bullied Tom Brady into making this video.

Speaker 4 I mean, you know nothing about video editing, PFT, but you can't just whip something up like that in one day.

Speaker 1 It's just not how it works.

Speaker 3 Yeah, no, you're right. He only had one day to think about his time in Massachusetts.

Speaker 4 Well, no, but like if in your

Speaker 4 conspiracy theory that we bullied him into it, that would mean that he wasn't planning on doing it, and then we bullied him, and then he was like, I have to do this. It is to say.

Speaker 4 Versus him planning it out the whole way before P-Boy ruined everything.

Speaker 1 Before P-Boy, yeah. And the conspiracy theory now, which actually is fucked up if this is how it went down, is that,

Speaker 1 and I don't know if we danced around it or said it explicitly, that some

Speaker 1 PA or someone at ESPN saw the man in the arena and saw, and then told Schefter. So Schefter didn't even get it in real ways.
He got it

Speaker 1 through someone leaking it to him from the ESPN offices.

Speaker 3 Are we just speculating on that? Or is that

Speaker 1 a new theory that I've seen? Yeah. I do have one last stat, by the way.
Billy did a great job with the stats. This one made me laugh very hard, though.

Speaker 1 Tom Brady,

Speaker 1 he's second all-time in receiving

Speaker 1 after turning 40 years old. Jerry Rice has 2,169 receiving yards after turning 40.
Tom Brady has six. Brett Favre has minus two.

Speaker 3 And I'm pretty sure that Brett Favre caught the pass from himself.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. Yeah, so.

Speaker 3 I mean, that record could be broken, though, if Fitzy plays another season, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, if he catches a couple balls, or he could get on the list if he just catches a ball and goes even minus three. He'd be number four on the list.
One bull, yeah.

Speaker 3 That's that's an awesome stat, though. I love that.
I'm just happy for Hank, really. When I saw the Instagram story, and hey, he tagged you personally, right?

Speaker 1 Sure, kind of.

Speaker 4 Yeah. My name was in it.

Speaker 1 Ish. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Someone else might have tagged me, and he reposted it. So on his story, my name was in it.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, he tagged me.

Speaker 3 So we're officially

Speaker 3 at peace with Tom Brady.

Speaker 4 I've always been at peace with Tom Brady, so yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I think it's retired. I think it's time to move on.
The only last thing I had was Skip Bayless. I tip my hat to him.

Speaker 1 Someday I hope to be as good as Skip Bayless because he made Tom Brady's retirement about Aaron Rodgers, which I fucking loved.

Speaker 1 He said, if Aaron Rodgers is watching all this, which he probably is, he's probably horrified with the outpouring of emotion and respect for Tom Brady because he won't get anything like that when he retires.

Speaker 1 I was like, I was like, I just sat, you know, sometimes when you just see a take and you're like, holy fuck, this guy's in the zone.

Speaker 1 Like, even, I'm such a Rodgers hater, and even I couldn't have connected those dots. Like, incredible.

Speaker 1 He was like, he actually said, I think Aaron Rodgers is contemplating retirement, but he can't retire now because he'd be following Tom Brady and everyone loves Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 I was like, skip, you've done it again, my man. I fucking love you.

Speaker 3 Yeah, his brain just switches between thinking about how LeBron would react to a situation and thinking about how Aaron Rodgers would react to a situation, just back and forth. He's the king.

Speaker 3 Nobody will ever touch Skip.

Speaker 1 He is. All right, so we don't have a ton because we're in that weird zone where we're getting ready for the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 We do have Taylor Heineke coming up. What else you guys got from the road? Like, how is.

Speaker 1 I just heard briefly that you were saying that,

Speaker 1 what did you say, Hank? Bubba. Bubba.
Oh, yeah. We should talk about Bubba.
So, Bubba's there. Bubba's here.

Speaker 1 Bubba is there. Bubba, so on Monday, we have an interview that I, like, it's like three years in the making.
It's a very big interview. We did it on Wednesday.

Speaker 1 Yeah, very long time in the making.

Speaker 1 It's a great interview. Get excited.
One of our best interviews ever.

Speaker 1 And Bubba,

Speaker 1 which is, it's kind of, you can set your watch to it. Every six months or so, he'll just sleep in through a very important

Speaker 1 thing that's going on. Like, he famously slept in for the Coacho Joe Burrow interview after the national championship.
He missed a flight when we were going to where? Baker Mayfield.

Speaker 1 Baker Mayfield in Cleveland.

Speaker 1 So it was about time. Like the clock,

Speaker 1 if we were a factory and it said,

Speaker 1 you know, days since Bubba has slept in when we have an important event going on, we were right around like 180 days, right around when he needed to do it.

Speaker 1 So he just didn't get up at 10.30, which isn't even late in the morning on Wednesday, missed it. So his punishment was he had to hop in the car last minute notice and drive to LA with you guys.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and you know, Bubba's been

Speaker 3 a joy to have also on this trip. We do need to stock him up with some clothes.

Speaker 3 So our plan is to swing by the Bass Pro Shop Pyramid and just stock Bubba up, just have him rocking like full car heart, Duck Commander, Geely suit, you name it.

Speaker 3 So we're going to do some shopping there because he didn't have time to pack ahead of time. But you're right.

Speaker 3 I think we should probably look into the astrology factor and see what happens whenever, like, what lines up whenever Bubba sleeps in and misses an interview.

Speaker 3 I'm sure it's something like Mercury in retrograde. And when that happens,

Speaker 3 you know that Bubba is about to be dozy as fuck.

Speaker 1 It was a very funny moment because we were getting ready for the interview and PFT like came over to me and like very seriously was like, I'm nervous about Bubba. And I was like, I'm not.

Speaker 1 This is about right when he should have done this.

Speaker 1 Like every six months, no matter what, he's just going to sleep through something and we're going to be like, well, this sucks, but we love love him, so his punishment is got to get in the car.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I think we had a pretty good first day, though. On the open road, we had some good tunes going, good playlists.
I've been vaping way too much.

Speaker 3 I woke up feeling like I had a sinus infection this morning because I was just non-stop vaping in the car last night.

Speaker 3 It's become a problem on this road trip. I think my only way through this is to just vape my way out the other side, just overdo it on the vape on this trip to the point where I get to L.A.

Speaker 3 and I never want to look at a jewel again.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Yeah, you have popcorn lung.

Speaker 1 So, wait, so you guys, I overheard you saying

Speaker 1 you're going to Memphis tonight and you get the hour back, which is huge, and that it's the difference of getting there between 9,000 between 9:30 and now you're getting there at 8:30.

Speaker 1 So, are the roads okay to drive? Because it looks like there's a lot of ice. Are we going to just slide our way to Memphis, Billy?

Speaker 6 So, thankfully, a lot of the highways going out into the south are straight. So something that we realized last night is that we had to go slow around all the curves going through Pennsylvania.

Speaker 6 Then once we hit Ohio, which was mostly straight highway, you can still carry, you know, 70 to 80 miles per hour safely. Whereas...

Speaker 6 Going around the corners, we had to go like 50. So with this ice, the big thing will be stopping.
Not many two people are on the roads, so no one's going to stop short in front of us.

Speaker 6 So as long as we just cruise, we're going to make awesome time.

Speaker 3 Okay, so Billy's never made the drive from Cincinnati to Memphis.

Speaker 3 I looked up

Speaker 3 straight down. We're going to be going through some hills and mountains.
I don't think it's going to be just a straight line.

Speaker 3 No, but he's thinking it's going to be like New Mexico, where you just see an open road and drive.

Speaker 6 But once we get south of Kentucky, there's no ice.

Speaker 1 If you look at this.

Speaker 1 But I think what PFT is saying, and he's correct, is that Kentucky and Tennessee

Speaker 1 are not flat.

Speaker 1 They're hills.

Speaker 3 The Appalachian Mountains are there.

Speaker 6 But the highway we take cuts right through.

Speaker 1 I don't think Billy.

Speaker 3 Billy's.

Speaker 3 It's a straight line between here. DK Metcalf could get there in about two hours.

Speaker 1 You know what? I think you could probably, if you just hop in the car, like almost like a bob sled, you guys can just push it and not even hit the gas and you'll be there, like going straight downhill

Speaker 1 for six, seven hours. Boom, you're there.

Speaker 3 Seems like the easiest drive ever to make. Yeah.
No, there will be some turns on this route.

Speaker 1 i'm pretty confident and billy just said that there's no ice in memphis i just looked at a tweet that showed icicles hanging off every tree in downtown memphis so but again billy's just saying things currently ice raining it's just it's not oh i see what he's saying No, he's saying that the ice isn't currently still, it's not raining ice, it's just ice everywhere.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the ice is raining.

Speaker 3 And I also think it's also raining ice. I think it's all the above.
And so, yeah, this will be an interesting afternoon. I'm very excited for it, obviously.

Speaker 3 But, yeah, it's good times on the open road so far. We'll see.
We'll see how it's going to be.

Speaker 1 It was just funny. It was just funny hearing the conversation because it was like, we're going to, like, Billy basically was like, we're going to make like perfect time.

Speaker 1 And I was like, I'm pretty sure. Last night,

Speaker 6 we made amazing time.

Speaker 3 We did. We made great time.

Speaker 3 Road Warriors.

Speaker 4 Billy, are you driving all day again today? Yeah.

Speaker 6 I'm pushing it to the limit.

Speaker 1 Who's got the aux?

Speaker 3 PFT? We switched back and forth a little bit. Now, I took the aux for a little bit, but then

Speaker 3 Billy asked me to put on his high school lifting playlist.

Speaker 3 And I'm pretty sure that all of Billy's playlists are high school lifting playlists, but he had one in particular that he wanted me to rock out to. It was pretty good.

Speaker 1 Walk a flocka.

Speaker 3 Waka Flocka was on there. We cruised into Cincinnati at the stroke of 3.15 listening to Takashi 6-9.

Speaker 3 So,

Speaker 3 yeah, it was wonderful. It was a wonderful little trip.

Speaker 6 Billy by 6ix9ine. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Very good song. There we go.
Wait, wait. So, PFT, are you not driving at all?

Speaker 3 I haven't driven yet. Billy wanted to do this whole thing on his own yesterday, so I'm going to take the wheel a little bit today and take over.
But, yeah, he took us all the way there.

Speaker 3 I mean, all the credit in the world to Billy for just,

Speaker 3 he did it. He said he was going to do it and he did it.
He called a shot.

Speaker 1 I was going to say, like, you got to drive a little bit because it's going to get to Billy's head very quickly.

Speaker 3 Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 It already seems like a professional trucker.

Speaker 3 It already has.

Speaker 3 Billy thinks that he's the captain right now. He took my computer earlier when we were trying to figure out the video and microphone settings.
And I was like, Billy, give me my computer.

Speaker 3 He's like, no, I got it.

Speaker 3 He thinks that he owns me.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 So before we get to Taylor Heineke, the only other thing we had to talk about is we got more details on the Brian Flores thing because I know we had it breaking news or breaking moves on Tuesday's show.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 since we finished, we had the allegation that Steven Ross offered him $100,000 to throw games.

Speaker 1 I actually looked back, and

Speaker 1 I'm willing to be the face of any class-action lawsuit against the Dolphins for that season because I did lose money.

Speaker 1 I looked back through some bet slips and I found some bets that I had pertaining to Dolphins games that season. But yeah, this is like,

Speaker 1 it's weird because

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 1 Belichick Rudy rule thing feels like

Speaker 1 it's the more important and there's more evidence and it's like one of those things where we've all known for a while the Rooney rule was

Speaker 1 good in principle, but it doesn't really work in reality because all you have to do is check a box and you don't actually have to give the real interview like the Giants are allegedly doing.

Speaker 1 But the Steven Ross thing, like if this actually turns out to be true and there might be a witness, like this could be a major, major thing for the NFL, like,

Speaker 1 you know, match fixing in European soccer type of thing.

Speaker 1 I have no idea what's going to happen.

Speaker 3 I think that they're going to force him to sell the team. I think this is the only way that an owner could be forced to sell because

Speaker 3 owners have so many skeletons in their closet that they're never going to vote another guy out if you get caught doing like a Jerry Jones or whatever and you've got a couple of strippers up in your booth because

Speaker 3 that's what they do on the daily. They don't want any of that dirt coming out.
But when you start

Speaker 3 involving like changing the outcomes of games and bribing coaches, things like that, I feel like this is this is a great excuse for owners to try to sell the team or try to vote them out I think it's a two-thirds majority is required to vote him out vote him out get them to sell the team and then get a new billionaire come in buy the dolphins and all of a sudden all their franchises are worth a shitload of money so I can only

Speaker 3 I can only hope that Dan Snyder has also been paying his coaches to throw games for the last 25 years. That would be the dream at this point.

Speaker 3 Hugh Jackson said that he was, well, he implied that he was getting paid paid by the Browns to do it, too.

Speaker 3 That'd be crazy if we got like three or four different teams that all came out with their own cheating scandals in that other way, the match fixing, and then we just had a bunch of new owners take over.

Speaker 3 That'd be cool.

Speaker 1 Well, Hugh Jackson, he ended up walking back some of his comments because I think he saw the story and was like, hey, wait, that's exactly what is happening in Cleveland.

Speaker 1 But the difference is in Cleveland, they were very open about the fact they were tanking. Like, that was, they were basically like, we are doing a trust the process type of deal.

Speaker 1 You remember when they hired the analytics guy and everything, Sasha? And that was the plan. So I think Hugh Jackson looked at it and was like, hey, that looks like my situation.

Speaker 1 He's like, no, because they were very open about it in Cleveland. Whereas Miami,

Speaker 1 yeah, if Stephen Ross was offering $100,000,

Speaker 1 it's fucking insane. And I did think it was going to be a he said, he said thing, but then it seems like there might be a witness to it, which makes it very, very interesting.

Speaker 3 I also think that paying a coach $100,000 to lose games as the coach of the Miami Dolphins is a terrible, terrible investment. Like, that just naturally happens, especially with the Browns.

Speaker 3 If you're paying...

Speaker 3 Okay, first of all, it's the Browns. Second of all, it's Hugh Jackson.

Speaker 3 How much more do you need to incentivize your team to lose than one, being the Cleveland Browns and two, hiring Hugh Jackson?

Speaker 3 I think that's just Hugh trying to get his name back in the press so that he can get another job. That's my initial take on it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he was coaching at Grambling State. Yeah, so Mike's still right there.
Like, yeah, Hugh Jackson, this is the same situation. No, you're right.
And

Speaker 1 it is like the

Speaker 1 things around it, like the fact that Adam Gates was the coach before Brian Floor is like, you had the perfect coach to just keep losing games.

Speaker 1 And the Dolphins, though, that 2019 season, that was the season where we did the

Speaker 1 Dead Dolphin jokes. Remember, they started 0-7, and then they actually finished.
They won five of their last nine games. So

Speaker 1 it's weird to look at now because you have no idea when this happened exactly, but it does look like a situation where they were actively trying to lose, and Brian Flores resisted that and got wins out of a really bad team at the end of the season.

Speaker 3 Maybe that's actually a masterful motivation technique is to bring your coach in and pay him money to lose games. That lights a fire under Z because you're questioning his integrity.

Speaker 3 Then you end up winning games.

Speaker 1 I think that's just the plot to major league.

Speaker 3 Yes, it is.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we're going to move the team.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they want us to lose. They put together a great bunch of losers.
Let's win in spite of them. Yeah.
Billy, did you have a point on that?

Speaker 1 You look like you had Billy Point Face.

Speaker 6 Oh, I think we need a sports gambling SEC to make sure everyone's staying competitive.

Speaker 3 Okay. I think they do have that.

Speaker 6 Like a

Speaker 3 gambling licensing boards, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but

Speaker 1 a but are they investigating

Speaker 1 sports no they could they could absolutely like this could be federal charges and it actually is the interesting part is that if flores like the only way that fluores could have been really fucked here is if he actually had taken the money and it had come out because then he would have gone to jail and steven ross probably wouldn't have yeah and also steven ross he's tied in with some gambling stuff too right that is a fact so yeah very very interesting i'd like to see those bet slips from mr ross that year too um

Speaker 3 want to want to get your guys feedback because we did talk a little bit about the commander's name on Wednesday's show, but they unveiled it and they unveiled the uniforms.

Speaker 3 I've said what I think about the piece several times, which is just okay, whatever, win games, we'll be fine.

Speaker 3 The new jerseys are what the new jerseys are, except the black ones I thought looked sick until I realized they were just the Steelers' uniforms.

Speaker 3 And we just copied the Steelers' uniforms, which admittedly are very cool, and I'm sure that our defense will play faster wearing those.

Speaker 3 But what are your guys' thoughts as outsiders on how the process unfolded?

Speaker 4 I'm just curious, PFT, and I know the answer probably, but at any point, I know I'm curious how many people are involved in these team names and like studies and all that stuff.

Speaker 4 Did anyone bring up the point that if we hand out rally towels, they're going to be called comrades?

Speaker 3 Comrades.

Speaker 4 Like there was a lot of those jokes that came out, and it's like, I was curious if anyone had thought about this before or if they realized after the fact that we're just going to have a bunch of commie jokes, even though we're DC, and I have a bunch of cum jokes.

Speaker 3 Yeah, no, I mean, we're already selling shirts.

Speaker 3 go commies i'm a commie i'm saying it loud i'm saying it proud uh their our chant should be hailed to the red scare i think these are all great things that we can do as a fan base but i told i actually told jason right

Speaker 3 like let me know what the name is going to be i won't tell anybody Just give my internet troll brain 48 hours to work on it, and I'll tell you ahead of time what everybody's going to say and the different directions the internet's going to go.

Speaker 3 So, no, I don't think that they employ enough internet trolls in the front offices of these organizations, but they went with a safe choice. They went with

Speaker 3 the three key checklists that Snyder hit. It had to be a name that was not trademarked.
It had to be an actual team name, and then it had to not be a racial slur. And that's three for three.

Speaker 3 Snyder's happy. It was always going to be the commanders, I'm sure about that.

Speaker 3 The Comrag thing is very funny. And like, oh, I'm calming.
I'm going to be saying I'm calming. I'm calming all the time whenever we score score touchdowns next year.
So,

Speaker 3 yeah,

Speaker 3 it was a little bit ham-fisted, but I don't think that there's a way that you can unveil a team name in this day and age without having it leak a little bit

Speaker 3 in the 24 hours to 48 hours before. Because Theisman's obviously going to get drunk and go on a radio show and say something.
That's just Joe Theisman.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, and the helicopter was very funny that they were able to spot it.

Speaker 1 I thought, I mean, the team name, I think I said it on Wednesday show, but like people get mad about it for 24 hours. No one like will remember it, care.

Speaker 1 Then football will be back and we'll be like, who cares? You know what I mean? Like we're, it's not going to be, I don't think it makes or breaks anything. Could it Red Hogs have been better?

Speaker 1 Yeah, sure. But who cares? Like, once football's on, I don't really care what the name of the team is.
I'm going to be watching it, betting it, doing all that stuff.

Speaker 1 I did think that in the all-time troll move, Dan Snyder should have just unveiled the new logo and it was just the Indians and it was the old Cleveland Indians logo.

Speaker 1 And And it was like, you guys asked me to change it. Here it is.

Speaker 1 That would have been very funny.

Speaker 3 It would have been great. I thought that the Bullets would have been a great name, too.

Speaker 3 That was such a cool name for the Washington Wizards. And so, if they had just taken bullets from them, that would have been a great, great move by Dan Snyder.

Speaker 3 And when you look through the team nicknames in the NFL right now, there are a lot of ones that if you unveiled today, you'd be like, what the fuck is that?

Speaker 3 Like, can you imagine the Miami Dolphins being like, we're the Dolphins? I think people would roast the shit out of of the Dolphins today.

Speaker 1 That one kind of makes sense. The New York Giants.

Speaker 3 People would roast the Giants if it came out today.

Speaker 1 That one. Yeah, that one would be weird.
The Browns.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, he named it after them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, a lot of them are just smart because it's like people like animals. They like rooting for animals.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's very basic.

Speaker 1 We're going to make it an animal, make it a cartoon animal, and we'll all get in line.

Speaker 3 We're still looking at what the mascot's going to be and the theme song is going to be, but I'm hoping that since we're the Commanders, which is the name of one of Joe Biden's dogs, the good one, Major Biden becomes the animal mascot.

Speaker 3 That'd be awesome to have him just patrolling the sidelines, biting the opponent, pissing and shitting all over himself. That's what I want.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, it would be like the Tennessee dog biting the Georgia player. Or no, it was the Georgia dog.

Speaker 1 I think it was the Georgia biting a Tennessee player. Or Auburn, maybe.
I'm in for that. Was it at a a police dog?

Speaker 1 What did you say?

Speaker 3 Billy just thought that Ugga was a police dog.

Speaker 6 No, there's a video of the police dog biting the college football player.

Speaker 3 I haven't seen that. We'll have to fact-check that one.

Speaker 1 I think that might be the Ugga, but maybe not. Is it the Ugga? Yeah, well, I'll find the Ugga.
Okay,

Speaker 1 let's get to our interview with Taylor Heineke, though. We have him.

Speaker 1 Commanders, starting quarterback as of right now.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, starting quarterback, Washington football team. It is Taylor Heineke.
He is here. I have to say this to start, promoting his Instagram.

Speaker 1 I mean, I just,

Speaker 1 we got the note that was like, you don't have anything to promote. You just wanted to come on, hang out, and you have an Instagram.
Follow Taylor Heineke. That's some brand building right there.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I mean, it's pretty simple.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just follow it up.

Speaker 3 What are we at right now? I want to see what the PMT bump is going to be because

Speaker 3 I'm demanding, actually, that everybody that's listening to this episode goes to follow Taylor Heineke. He's at 169,000 followers right now.

Speaker 1 We need new posts, though.

Speaker 1 We got to play ball here. We'll get you more followers, but you got to drop something hot for the people.

Speaker 8 I will, I will. I mean, during the football season, it's all football, but now that we're out, get a little fun with it.

Speaker 1 Okay, good, good.

Speaker 1 So we're going to demand that people follow Taylor Heineke heineke on twitter but uh yeah we're very excited to have you on um or sorry on instagram you haven't tweeted since like 2015 i saw that what's going on there well

Speaker 8 if i'm not mistaken back in 2017 i played on christmas day in houston and i got a lot of shit from you guys big cat and uh particular

Speaker 8 um saying that quavo should have uh Quavo should have been in there instead of me.

Speaker 1 Do you remember that? No.

Speaker 8 Wait, so wait, when was this on christmas day christmas day in 2017 we played the steelers okay

Speaker 8 and i remember i was only in there for like 10 snaps i believe and i got a concussion and then um wait big cat

Speaker 1 i'm pretty sure

Speaker 8 coming out saying that i was only slightly better than quavo in high school and i think a lot of people ran with that one oh man i'm pretty sure that big cat didn't know who quavo was in 2017 what the fuck pft in 2018, we were late adopters.

Speaker 1 Come on. I knew who he was.

Speaker 1 That's funny.

Speaker 1 Well, I apologize for that.

Speaker 1 I did look up what other tweets I had about you, and it was in 2017. I just said, what the fuck is a Taylor Heineke? And then I followed it up with,

Speaker 1 they should just introduce you as the guy that had us betting on old Dominion football games because that was, it's like, oh, yeah, that guy.

Speaker 8 I know him. Yeah, those, those games back in college, those are all locks, man.

Speaker 8 You were covering the spread on all those.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's funny. I apologize.
I don't remember saying that, but that's a good reason to stop tweeting. Twitter's stupid anyway.

Speaker 1 We're going to follow you all on Instagram. That's way better.

Speaker 8 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 8 Twitter's trouble, man. That's the only bad things come from Twitter.

Speaker 1 All right, so we love watching you play this year.

Speaker 1 I mean, you've gone back and forth from being the guy for PFT, which has been a fun watch.

Speaker 1 Your style, like,

Speaker 1 you are...

Speaker 1 Did you learn anything from Ryan Fitzpatrick?

Speaker 1 You've always been exactly like this because it is fun when you make plays that are broken down and you're like, I'm going to make something of this, and I have the confidence to do it.

Speaker 1 It's very, very fun to watch. Like, has that always just been, I feel like I can get out of any situation, I can make something good happen?

Speaker 8 Yeah, that's that's kind of you know, my whole life. I didn't play quarterback until eighth grade, and that's when everything started to click for me.

Speaker 8 Um, but you mentioned Fitz, and it's funny because I can see myself

Speaker 8 kind of like him, kind of the same ride, everything. You know, he's been in the league for what, 10, 15, 17 years, something like that.

Speaker 8 And throughout his career, he just jumped from place to place and was back up and then kind of throwing in and then back up, then throwing in.

Speaker 8 And I feel like I'm kind of on that track, hopefully on that track. But, you know, the way I play, I saw a lot of myself.

Speaker 8 you know, when he was on the field as well, we kind of had the same type of,

Speaker 8 we played the same type of way for sure.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you're never out of it when Taylor Heineke's in the game.

Speaker 3 Like you have, you have an ability that's, I think, admirable, which is you have a very high fuck it quotient where you can, you can, yeah, you can, you can see some bad shit out there.

Speaker 3 You can make a bad play, but the very next series, you're going to go out there and you're going to do something equally as reckless, and usually it turns out good.

Speaker 3 You know, like if you keep taking those shots, sometimes, you know, that's the way you can't, you can't pick and choose when you're going to be aggressive.

Speaker 3 You're aggressive all the time, which I loved watching this year. So I said a lot of things about you, most of them positive this year.
I think I said you're elite.

Speaker 3 I said you're Brett Favre with a bigger dick. I said that

Speaker 1 you're a franchise quarterback as well.

Speaker 3 But I think there's one, you know, like this offseason is going to be important for you because Ron Rivera has obviously said we're looking to get a different quarterback.

Speaker 3 He's been pretty open about that, that they are going to go out there and try to find somebody.

Speaker 3 But at the same time, you're going to have the opportunity to beat out somebody in training camp next year and be the guy. So like, how are you going into?

Speaker 3 This is probably the most important offseason of your career.

Speaker 8 Yeah. So,

Speaker 8 you know, when I saw that and I heard that, it's nothing new. I was kind of expecting that.

Speaker 8 But, you know, for me, my biggest thing, I just try to control what I can control. You know, I did.

Speaker 8 I had a year, you know, was healthy throughout the year, had some bad mistakes, had some bad games, but hopefully put enough good film out there to stick around. So

Speaker 8 for me, now it's just getting in the weight room, getting that weight back on, and

Speaker 8 working on some things I want to work on that I've seen on film this past year. So

Speaker 8 again,

Speaker 8 I'm not worried about it. Wherever football takes me, I'll go.
But my biggest thing is I just want to keep playing ball.

Speaker 1 That's a good answer. So how much weight did you lose during the season?

Speaker 8 I probably lost about five to eight pounds.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's nothing. I mean,

Speaker 1 that's nice to be like, I can put it back on.

Speaker 8 Yeah, it's like I went in very solid, 215.

Speaker 8 But, you know, throughout the year, you're not allowed, you can't lift and you're getting beat up all the time. So that muscle really turned into fat.
So I'm

Speaker 8 trying to walk that stuff off right now.

Speaker 3 Did you see that Pat Mahomes pulled a Heineke on Sunday? That's what they're calling it now. They're calling it pulling a Heineke when you reach out and you just tap the pylon with the ball.

Speaker 3 He's been watching film on you.

Speaker 8 Yeah, see, I was sitting on this couch and I was watching it when he did that. I was like, that looks familiar.
So, and how about that game, by the way? That was, that was unbelievable.

Speaker 1 Incredible. It was awesome.

Speaker 3 Yeah. When you're watching that,

Speaker 3 are you able to watch it as a fan? Are you like watching it thinking about

Speaker 3 other things, like ways that you could translate, you know, what's going on in the game to what you do?

Speaker 8 I try to watch it as a fan. You know, I'm still a big fan of football.
I'm a big fan of, you know, good quarterback play and, you know.

Speaker 8 especially playoff football. But at the same time, you know, when I'm seeing, you know, some decisions that some quarterbacks make or, you know, audibles and stuff like that, I kind of study that.

Speaker 8 But I, you know, when I'm not playing, I really try and sit back, enjoy it, you know, have a have a nice Bud Light and relax.

Speaker 1 Coors Light, you could say Coors Light.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 3 that was fucked up that Heineken didn't give you an advertisement deal. Like, you put it out there on a platter for them, and they turned their back on you.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I was trying that hard. Like the last two years, I was really trying for it, and they weren't budging.

Speaker 8 So I don't know if you guys know the story, but I was talking about it in interviews interviews and press conferences. And

Speaker 8 next thing you know, Bud Light saw it and was like, hey, we're ready to go. So that day they sent me a contract and

Speaker 8 signed with Bud Light that day. Damn.

Speaker 1 Good for you.

Speaker 3 I'm glad you got paid off it, but all-time marketing blunder by the guys over at that Red Star beer company.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 your season this year, Washington football team had some ups and downs. You guys went on a nice run there in the middle of the season where, you know, you beat the Bucks.

Speaker 1 You had some big-time wins uh when that when that's going on are you thinking like okay this is i i might actually win this job right here because it's got to be a weird feeling just every week knowing that you're kind of getting graded that's not that's very atypical of a start of a starting quarterback in the nfl does that factor in week to week what you're thinking about no again you know i i i hear it and it's you know i know what's going on But, you know, again, for me,

Speaker 8 it was a dream come true this year just to play. So, you know, I went in the facility every day just trying to get better and trying to get ready.

Speaker 8 And, you know, if that was going to be my last game playing, that was going to be my last game playing. But I was going to go out there and give it my all.

Speaker 8 So, you know, I don't really think about that stuff. Again, I try and let my play take care of it all and not worry about it.
So

Speaker 8 for me, this year,

Speaker 8 it worked out pretty well. We had a good run there.
Like you said, we were two and six and we came back six and six.

Speaker 8 uh we just went through a lot of stuff a lot of injuries and then covet hit us right we went to the division division games and um off-the-field stuff with you know family members you know kind of you know passing away and stuff like that it's just it was a crazy year and for us to be in week 17 you know driving down the field and last last possession of the game to have a chance to go you know win and possibly make the playoffs um you know it was it was pretty special yeah yeah it was it was a fun season definitely had its ups and downs and uh like like we alluded to you stepped in last year in the playoff game against the bucks cover the spread against tom brady you were the only quarterback to do that by the way in the NFL last year.

Speaker 3 So congratulations and thank you for that. But as you're getting ready for that playoff game,

Speaker 3 it's a significant uptick in pressure on what you're used to, I would have to imagine. Like, what was that process like knowing you were about to start a playoff game, your first playoff game,

Speaker 3 against the best quarterback in NFL history?

Speaker 8 And you kind of alluded to it earlier. Excuse my language.
You know, I was in the tunnel and I was coming out and I was like, fuck it. You know, this might be my last game.

Speaker 8 And I'm about to go against Tom Brady. No one's giving us a chance.
So why not just go out there, have some fun and

Speaker 8 leave it all out there. So

Speaker 8 yeah, that was a special game. It would have been really sweet if the fans were able to go.
I think that would have helped us a lot. But,

Speaker 8 you know, I go back and look at that film. There's only like two or three throws.
I feel if I complete those things, we're right there in it. So

Speaker 8 again,

Speaker 8 that was a special moment. It kind of restarted my career.
And I'm just riding on those coattails right now.

Speaker 1 Can you walk me through the, I think I remember this correctly, the Falcons game this year when you

Speaker 1 have that touchdown throw at the end of the game. It was one of those throws that you did essentially everything that you're taught to do as a quarterback and you just ignored it all and you're like,

Speaker 1 you're like late throwing all the way across the field. Like, wow.

Speaker 1 Is there any moment where you're just like, I'm just a playmaker? I'm going to make some plays. And who cares if this does not meet like anything you're supposed to do?

Speaker 8 Yeah. So that's, you know, again, that's kept my game.
Um, you kind of do some things you're not taught to do, and

Speaker 8 there's a very fine line. You know, there's some times where coaches love that.
You make a play, and then there's some times where they're like, What the hell are you thinking? And,

Speaker 8 you know, that's the line I'm kind of flirting with right now, and I'm trying to get on the right side, uh, being consistent there. But yeah, that game was fun.

Speaker 8 There was a lot of family, it was kind of a homecoming for me, and uh, yeah, JD made a great play diving in the end zone there. It was that was a special moment.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was, it was an all-time like, oh, God, what is he doing? What is he doing? What is he doing? Oh, fuck, it worked. Holy shit.
Taylor Heineke.

Speaker 1 Like, that's, I mean, those are the, those are the guys we love watching the most when you don't, you know, they can pull those plays out of nowhere. Have you thought at all about the headband?

Speaker 1 I have a, I don't like when guys wear headbands when they're losing. Have you thought about ditching it when you're losing?

Speaker 8 Well, the whole story about the headband is in OTAs this year, we were really working on our play action pass.

Speaker 8 And coach is like, we really need to get better at, you know, good fakes. So

Speaker 8 during a walkthrough period, you know, I really get into it, put my head down. The running back's really getting into it.
He puts his elbow up and he nicks me right in the head.

Speaker 8 And I have a huge, you see this scar right here.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 8 Busted me open. The guy had to get seven stitches.
So, you know, they were trying to get me back in the helmet pretty quick there. So I just had to put the headband on to kind of give it.

Speaker 8 a little bit of uh you know protection and it kind of just stuck so um the headband's the deal now oh okay you thought about going like full do-rag, like Deion Sanders style? Yeah,

Speaker 8 I'll see how that goes with the guys next year, but we'll see how that goes.

Speaker 1 I understand how like old and like

Speaker 1 curmudgeony I sound when I'm like, take that headband off when you're losing. But, you know, it's just one of those things.
Like,

Speaker 1 when a team is losing, it's like, there should be no swag, no pieces of swag.

Speaker 8 I hear what you're saying.

Speaker 3 Have you thought about making any changes to like your post-game wardrobe, depending on whether or not you win or lose?

Speaker 3 Because I feel like I don't want to tell you to do the Cam Newton thing because you know, it'd look weird, I think, for you to go out there and have like a fox sitting on your head.

Speaker 3 Uh, but you could actually pull off the wife beater and jean shorts combination with like a chain at the podium. I think that'd be a good look for you.

Speaker 8 Yeah, um, it was funny because you know, obviously, Fitz was in the in the room, and we all know that infamous picture of when he took um

Speaker 1 uh

Speaker 8 uh Jackson's chain and his sunglasses, and he was up there letting his chest hair flow out. And

Speaker 8 it's hard to follow up with that. So I got a couple ideas next year with Logan Thomas.
I think we got a little

Speaker 8 good thing going for next year, but we'll see. I got a feeling

Speaker 8 there's going to be some fun next year.

Speaker 1 I was reading some stories about you, and you were, admittedly, you said you were kind of close to being done with football.

Speaker 1 How real, like, close were you? Because I'm sure that's obviously a very hard decision. You played football all your life.
You've been on some NFL teams, XFL.

Speaker 1 Was it really like, oh, man, if I don't get picked up here, it's over?

Speaker 8 Yeah, and

Speaker 8 it was a really tough time. So, you know, obviously we're in the XFL.
COVID, you know, cancels all that. So I'm going home and I'm thinking, what am I going to do now?

Speaker 8 And, you know, I called Coach Scott Turner, you know, R-O-C, and asked him if he has any coaching positions open. So you got to go finish school first.

Speaker 8 So I came back down to Georgia, started taking online classes. I was living with my sister at the time, you know, living on her couch and sitting there just

Speaker 8 watching football. Maybe an injury happens.
Maybe some COVID stuff happens. Maybe I'll get a call.
And I think it was week 10 or 11, and I still haven't got a call. And I was like, you know what?

Speaker 8 I might have to start looking for

Speaker 8 that next chapter in life.

Speaker 8 Sure enough, that Denver, remember when Denver had all those quarterbacks go down and they received more?

Speaker 3 Blake portals? yeah.

Speaker 8 Yep, that's the only reason Washington called me up, just to get an emergency COVID quarterback just in that happened.

Speaker 1 So Blake Bortles kept you in football.

Speaker 3 Yeah,

Speaker 3 domino effect, like verbal meme, Blake Bortles being in a room with the other quarterbacks without a mask on, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot. Taylor Heiny key covers in a playoff game against Tom Brady.

Speaker 8 I love it.

Speaker 8 Yeah. Yeah, so it was, it was wild, man.
And then, you know, obviously some things happened with Haskins and with Alex Smith. And there I am playing Brady in the playoffs.
So it was a wild ride.

Speaker 1 That's awesome. Shout out, Blake.
We're friends with Scott Turner. And I loved his quote about you when he was basically defending you.
Like, listen, every time.

Speaker 1 If Taylor has a bad game, people just are like, oh, well, he shouldn't be here. And it's like, that's not how it works.
It doesn't go like game to game like that.

Speaker 1 Like, it's the body of work, and you can't just judge where he's from and where he ended up. He's a good player.
So, yeah, we love Scott. And

Speaker 1 that's an awesome story, man, that you then started pretty much the whole season this year.

Speaker 8 Yeah, and that was, and the big thing for me this past year was, you know, the big question mark was, is he durable enough to get through a whole season?

Speaker 8 And I think I checked that box off this year, and that was huge for me.

Speaker 8 So, yeah, we just got to keep it rolling.

Speaker 3 Counterpoint to that, though, if you had gotten like next year, if you start the season and you play like three good games in a row, we're, I mean, this reveals a lot about me and Big Cat's moral character, but we would fake like an injury to our non-throwing shoulder and then hit the free agent market, cash in big time.

Speaker 3 You know, like that's just something to think about. I want you to win football games, and I want the football team to win.

Speaker 3 But just something for you to, you know, just keep in the back of your mind, if appropriate.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Remember that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So the durability thing, I also read a story that you...

Speaker 1 Sometimes at the gym, we'll get like, people are like, oh, he introduced an NFL quarterback. And guys are like, no way, he's too small.

Speaker 1 Is there something that you do then to like exercise or anything where it's like, look at this?

Speaker 1 Because that's kind of a cool, almost like a pool shark moment where it's like, oh, we don't think this guy can play in the NFL. And then you do a workout or lift or something.
It's like, oh, fuck.

Speaker 1 We totally underestimated him.

Speaker 8 Yeah. So I don't know if you guys followed.

Speaker 8 My trainer's name is Joel Seedman, and he does a lot of different, crazy, wacky stuff.

Speaker 8 So yeah, it's funny because a lot of the guys that don't think I'm an NFL quarterback are high school kids. Like,

Speaker 8 you're not a NFL quarterback, and you're just talking shit.

Speaker 8 So, then we'll start working out and we start doing this crazy stuff that they can't do, but I've been doing for five, six years. So, I'll do it pretty easily.
And they're like, holy shit, you know,

Speaker 8 so the more they're around and the more guys they see around,

Speaker 8 you know, they start having more respect for them. But, you know, you know how those high school kids are, man.

Speaker 8 They like to talk shit. They like to roast.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I just love the idea.
Like, that's got to feel like the all-time flex for someone to doubt that you are a NFL quarterback and then you do something in training or something.

Speaker 1 They're like, oh, yeah. Because you can always tell.

Speaker 1 Like, it's, you know, when we're around athletes, or even if you've, if you've ever been around anyone who's a really good athlete, they could do anything.

Speaker 1 Like, it could be swing a golf club or shoot like some hoops. They might not play basketball.
And you're like, oh, that's the difference between regular people and exceptional athletes.

Speaker 1 Like, the way they move is just so off the charts. So, I, you should just start doing that at random gyms.

Speaker 1 You should go to like LA Fitness and just start having everyone doubt that you're an NFL quarterback. That's what I do.

Speaker 3 Keep a football in a bag with you at all times. And if anybody doubts, you'd be like, let's step outside and then just walk out in the parking lot and just throw the football as far as you can.

Speaker 1 Any questions? Yeah.

Speaker 8 Sometimes, you know, it's, it's kind of, you know, as

Speaker 8 kind of, it pisses me off sometimes when they say that. But at the same time, it's kind of a, it's kind of a compliment.

Speaker 8 You know, I was, i'm six foot and 200 pounds and um here i am making it so it's it's kind of more of a credit to how hard i've been working but you know those those kids can uh you know

Speaker 3 talk shit all the time you're playing the game on expert mode right now as a six foot 200 pound guy anybody can do it if they're six foot five and and 235 you know yeah

Speaker 8 you know i was watching josh allen play and being 6'4 240 and he's running over dbs and just throwing the ball 80 yards down the field i'm like man you know,

Speaker 8 I wish I could do that.

Speaker 1 Are you sure you're six feet?

Speaker 8 Oh, come on now. I usually say 6'1.

Speaker 1 Oh, because I would have guessed.

Speaker 1 If you said 6'1, I would have been like, oh, he's probably six feet. So are you sure you're six feet?

Speaker 8 I think it's six foot, half inch. So, you know, in between.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 1 Definitely. You just looked up.
What was that? Who'd you look up at? TV.

Speaker 1 How much do you bench?

Speaker 1 You do bench?

Speaker 8 Not anymore.

Speaker 8 The highest I ever got, though, was I think about 335, 340 in college.

Speaker 3 That's pretty good for a collegiate.

Speaker 8 I was built like a linebacker. I was like Tim Tebow-esque in college.

Speaker 1 I read that you punted in college, too, right?

Speaker 8 Yeah, so that's actually funny because we didn't actually do like a punt formation. It was like we're at the 50-yard line.
We went on and fourth down a lot.

Speaker 8 And if we didn't get the type of coverage that we wanted, I would kind of just back up three yards, pretend like I'm calling it audible, and then the center would snap it to me and I would pooch punt it.

Speaker 8 So

Speaker 8 I'm still pretty sure I'm the leading punter in ODU history, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I saw it.

Speaker 1 It wasn't like once or twice. It was like something like 600 punt yards that you had.
So

Speaker 1 that's hilarious that you guys, I love that. I wish more teams did that.

Speaker 3 More teams

Speaker 3 should do the pooch kick. Ben Roethlisberger used to do that back when he was able to move.
He had a sick pooch kick where he'd he'd down it inside the five every single time.

Speaker 3 You talked about ODU. Some call it the Harvard of Southeastern Virginia.
And then it's so it's you from ODU. I'm a CAA guy myself, too.
So like I'm James Madison used to kick our ass all the time.

Speaker 3 And then you're sharing a locker room with Fitzy, obviously, the Harvard guy in the NFL. What was your relationship with him like just on a one-on-one basis?

Speaker 3 Because Big Get and I got to meet him over the summer when we came to training camp. He's just like a cool, he's just like a bro, just like a cool guy down to earth.

Speaker 3 So what was your relationship like?

Speaker 3 Was he helping you as like, you know, a mentor of sorts, or was it just more like two guys that were, you know, forming a friendship?

Speaker 8 You know, at first it was, it was a friendship. We wanted to get that established.

Speaker 8 And then, you know, once we started getting comfortable with each other and we're out in the field and he kind of seen my strengths and weaknesses,

Speaker 8 he would help me out a lot. So, you know, during training camp, there was one week where I just, for some reason, I was not accurate at throwing to my left.

Speaker 8 And, you know, he's like, I've had this problem in the past. You know, this is what I did to fix it.
And it helped tremendously.

Speaker 8 so um you know every time he saw something that i needed to work on he would kind of give me his his take on it and uh it most of the time it worked out great so um it was unfortunate he got hurt in that first week um you know it was it was a pretty bad injury especially at that age and um he wasn't around too much because he was getting a lot of treatment but when he could come around he was around he was helping us so um yeah he's gonna be sorely missed yeah yeah we love ryan fitzpatrick we're gonna get back falls here kids are back in school, vacations are over, and cozy season is officially on.

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Speaker 3 Here's more Taylor Haneki. What should we call you? I know that we should call you like when you were on the Vikings, you were a Viking.
When you were on the Battle Hawks, you were a Battle Hawk.

Speaker 3 Are you a football team? What do you refer to yourself as?

Speaker 8 Well, we'll figure out here in a week.

Speaker 1 That's right, yeah.

Speaker 1 I actually saw,

Speaker 3 so not to brag, Michael Wilbon name drop, I text back and forth with Jason Wright sometimes, and he told me that the name is going to be Red Hogs.

Speaker 1 That would be kind of cool. Red Hogs Williams.
Have you heard that?

Speaker 8 I haven't.

Speaker 8 I've heard of one other that I'm pretty positive it is, but I will okay.

Speaker 1 So that was a test because he actually didn't tell me. Well, you've eliminated Red Hogs.

Speaker 1 Not to brag, but I text back and forth with Dan Snyder, and he said it was going to be Red Hawks.

Speaker 1 Did you like that? I like that. Oh.

Speaker 3 I actually, I text back and forth with Tanya Snyder, who, as you know, is the owner of the team. Dan Snyder's no longer, he's he's off doing his own thing

Speaker 3 and she said that it was red tails

Speaker 3 yeah it's red tails

Speaker 1 it's red tails

Speaker 8 it's I can tell by the look I like red tails hail to the red tails I will say some of the guys on the team saw the uniforms and they said they're super clean very good looking and a lot of people are going to be pretty pumped about it.

Speaker 8 So the unis are going to be nice.

Speaker 3 Wait, so some people on the team saw the uniforms. They didn't show you the uniforms?

Speaker 8 No, I think only like two or three guys, you know, the top franchise guys, you got John Allen, Terry McLaurin, Chase Young.

Speaker 8 Those three got to see it all and they got to know the name and had some input on it. But, you know, they've been doing a good job of keeping their mouth shut about it all.

Speaker 3 You brought up Terry. I think that Terry McLaurin is easily a top 10 receiver in the NFL.
Some of the catches that he was making this year were just unreal. The guy doesn't drop balls.
It's insane.

Speaker 3 How much easier does he make it? You can do the thing where I know you like to point down the field a lot.

Speaker 3 Like when you're scrambling around, you like to do the point, and it's the fuck it, Terry's down there somewhere, and you air it out, and you just know he's going to come down with it.

Speaker 3 How awesome is it just to throw him footballs?

Speaker 8 Yeah, you know, he's a special talent. And, you know, I wanted to give him the ball more this year.
You know, obviously, he's, he's, he's our, he was our best player.

Speaker 8 But again, you know, defenses are good too, and they, they got game plans. But, you know, it's cool when you get the ball in his hands and to see what he can do with it.
Um, it's really special.

Speaker 8 You can can throw him a five-yard stick route and he can make it into a 40-yard game. So,

Speaker 8 you know, when you got a guy like that, you try to give him the ball as much as possible and let him do his thing.

Speaker 3 You always hear about like top-tier receivers like that always thinking that they're open, always demanding the ball. But Terry, his personality, he feels like he's more laid back.

Speaker 3 But I don't know, you know him a lot better than I do. Does he have that mode that he gets into where he's ultra competitive and he's like, give me the ball every play?

Speaker 8 He's a very competitive guy, but he's never going to say that. And, you know, his character is huge.
You know,

Speaker 8 let's be real, you know, receivers and DBs are usually the divas of the team, right? You know, they

Speaker 8 want the ball, they want attention and stuff like that. But Terry is not like that at all.
And it's huge for us because he's our best player.

Speaker 8 So when you have your best player like that, it just trickles down to everybody and no one else can be like that. So he's a great leader for us.
He's a great player.

Speaker 8 And again, hopefully he just keeps doing his thing.

Speaker 1 I had one last question, and this one kind kind of sucks, but I'm always curious about this.

Speaker 1 The game against the Cowboys, what gets said in the locker room after that? Is it just like, well, that sucked? Like, what, do you even, I mean, that sucks.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 8 There's not much to say after games like that.

Speaker 8 You know, the biggest thing that we had to realize is, you know, that's kind of like life. You know, things are going well.
It's a roller coaster.

Speaker 8 And next thing you know, you get punched in the mouth and things aren't working well for you. You just got to keep getting up and fighting.

Speaker 8 And, you know, for us, you know, we got we got our asses whooped by them twice this year, but we didn't let that affect the next game, which I think is the biggest thing.

Speaker 8 So, you know, we kind of just try to. rub it off as quickly as possible and go on to the next opponent.

Speaker 1 I think that's where I would fail as a teammate because I would definitely try to make a joke right after the game and people would be like, what the hell, dude? Like, I wouldn't play.

Speaker 1 I'd be on the bench. And then I'd just be like,

Speaker 1 man, we were so close, one play away or something like that. And everyone's like, are you serious, dude?

Speaker 8 Yeah, you know,

Speaker 8 the thing that helped us kind of cope over it pretty quickly was those Dallas equipment guys that were helping, you know, get all the jerseys and stuff situated, they knew where the beer was.

Speaker 8 So they were handing out six packs of beer to people. So, you know, we weren't too mad after the game.

Speaker 3 That's smart.

Speaker 3 I mean, a part of me almost thinks, like, if you're going to get beat, you might as well get your ass kicked because you can burn the film and be like, listen, there's really not a lot that we can learn from this.

Speaker 3 Whereas if you lose it, you know, in a heartbreaking fashion on the last play, that tends to linger. That tends to stick around a little bit longer.

Speaker 8 Absolutely. Yeah, you hit you hit on the head right there.

Speaker 8 When you have a game like that, you kind of come in on a Monday and you're just like, there's no reason to watch this film. We just got our asses whooped.
Let's just move on and

Speaker 8 forget about it.

Speaker 8 And I think we did that.

Speaker 8 We went out to Philly and we almost beat them at home.

Speaker 8 Unfortunately, we didn't, but,

Speaker 8 you know, I'm proud of the guys. They did a good job handling all that stuff.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I had one last, last question, actually. I think PFT has one after me.
But

Speaker 1 are you still tight with the old Dominion football program?

Speaker 8 I am.

Speaker 8 The head coach and the coaching staff,

Speaker 8 when I was there, isn't there anymore. He's a new guy.

Speaker 8 But I've met him a couple of times, went to dinner, had a couple drinks with him. And he's a young, very energized guy.

Speaker 8 Hell, you know, his first year playing, they went six and six and went to a bowl game. So it's huge for them.

Speaker 1 The future looks bright. So about that bowl game, real quick,

Speaker 1 What happened with that guy who just let up and

Speaker 1 got the ball knocked out of his hand going into the end zone? You know the play. You know the play against Tulsa.
I had Old Dominion plus eight.

Speaker 1 It was 23-10 or something,

Speaker 1 and they get a perfect pass. He's running into the end zone.
He just lets up with like three yards left. Boom, stripped, touchback, game over.

Speaker 8 I did not see that.

Speaker 1 Well, tighten it up. That's all.
I'm never going to get to talk to anyone else who's Old Dominion. So I want you to send that message to Fundamentals, you know? I got you.

Speaker 1 That one's going to stick with me. Like when people say, unfortunately for you, like gamblers' brains, like Taylor Heineke will not be the first thought of Old Dominion.
It'll be that play for people.

Speaker 8 So was that part of a parlay? Was it straight up?

Speaker 1 No, straight up. I loved them.
They had a great year.

Speaker 1 They started really bad, right? And they were really good down the stretch. I thought

Speaker 1 they were playing Tulsa, like those type of teams, always Old Dominion being in a bowl game, super exciting. I love them.

Speaker 3 I love their style and everything and then they totally let me down so yeah fire that coach one and six to start with five straight so i thought yeah i was i was i was feeling good about him too yeah uh my last question is i know that you're a fan of uh busting with the boys will compton our co-worker Do you think it was a coincidence that the Raiders waited to sign Will Compton until after you went there to kick their ass?

Speaker 8 Yeah,

Speaker 8 not a big fan of his. And,

Speaker 8 you know, it would have been cool if he was on the team. So I got to meet him.
I'm trying to get on that bus and talk to those guys. But

Speaker 1 we'll get you on the bus.

Speaker 1 Just a tip. When you go on the bus, maybe wear a mesh jersey or something because

Speaker 1 they do not have any air conditioning. They try to sweat you out.
They try to kill you on that bus.

Speaker 8 That's what it looks like on their Instagram clips. Those guys are sweating bullets out there.
Every time.

Speaker 3 It's like a sun on that thing.

Speaker 1 That's crazy.

Speaker 8 And how long are those shows you should go for?

Speaker 1 They had me trapped in there for like two hours.

Speaker 8 Oh, my God. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think he was trying to kill me for real. We might just

Speaker 8 go old jolly and take the shirt off.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 No, it's like a sweat lodge in there. Taylor Luan just like lights a bonfire in the middle and starts burning incense and he just waits you out.
He knows that he can last longer.

Speaker 3 Now that we're done recording, we actually stop the tape. What's the name going to be?

Speaker 8 I can't tell y'all.

Speaker 3 You guys are gamblers, man. Come on.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to say anything.

Speaker 3 I just want to know. I just want to

Speaker 3 know.

Speaker 1 I don't want to find out in Good Morning America.

Speaker 8 I'll give you a hint and you guys can go from there.

Speaker 3 Start to the C.

Speaker 3 Oh, it's the Commanders.

Speaker 1 That'd be awesome if they just went the Chiefs and they just used the same Indian logo. Or they go back to the Red City.

Speaker 3 After a long discussion, you're going back to Redskins.

Speaker 1 They're like, what? We changed the name. This is what you wanted.

Speaker 1 Wait, last question, this doesn't even have to be in, but did Tom Brady ever learn your name?

Speaker 8 I don't think so, man.

Speaker 1 Because you were on the practice squad, right? For a little bit. Yeah.
Yeah. So I got there.

Speaker 8 My first day there, I was like, I'm going to be the first one in the facility. I'm going to make a good impression.

Speaker 8 I come in at like 5.15, go in the quarterback room, and he's up there with his feet up watching film already.

Speaker 1 I'm like, geez.

Speaker 1 How early does he get there? That's perfect.

Speaker 8 I mean, his feet up with the coffee in hand at 5.15. I'm guessing he was there at 4.45.

Speaker 3 Jesus. What a psycho.

Speaker 1 That's insane.

Speaker 3 I feel like there's like limited returns to getting there that early. Like, how much film can one man watch?

Speaker 1 If he goes to sleep as early as he does, I feel like that's, you know, that's just a different world. Like, imagine going to sleep at like 7.30 p.m.
Yeah. That's what he does.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 8 his whole diet deal is crazy, man. He didn't.
He was drinking all types of shakes and all types of shit. It was pretty impressive to watch.

Speaker 3 I guess it's worked for him.

Speaker 1 Yeah. A little bit.
All right. Well, Taylor, thank you so much.
Everyone go

Speaker 1 follow Taylor on Instagram. We appreciate it, man.
Best of luck. And what's the team name?

Speaker 3 The Washington Commanders. Commanders.
That's what I'm guessing from this. Or the Chiefs.
Is that with an O or a U?

Speaker 1 That would be cool, too, if they did the Chiefs, and then it's like we got confused. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The Commanders. Commanders, man.

Speaker 3 Actually, like, it would have been very, when he did the study

Speaker 3 on whether or not the name should be changed, he commissioned like a big study, Dan Snyder did. It would have been very funny if the result of the study was Redskins is not offensive, it turns out.

Speaker 1 Or the Washington Cherokees, yeah. And it's just like, we're just going for it.
Yeah. All right.
Well, good luck.

Speaker 3 I'm hoping that, I'm hoping you stick around. I'm rooting for you.
You were the most fun quarterback to watch for the Washington football team since RG3 back in 2012. So I hope you stick around.

Speaker 3 Huge compliment. Big compliment.

Speaker 1 Just don't look at who played between that at all. Because then the compliment kind of loses its shine.

Speaker 3 Kirk Cousins was electric for a long time.

Speaker 3 You're the exact opposite of Kirk Cousins, which is the highest compliment I can pay him, man.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I hope.

Speaker 3 I hope if you don't get a chance to start for Washington next year, I hope you get a chance somewhere else. I'm going to be rooting for you personally, no matter what.

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Speaker 1 Okay, let's wrap up. We've got Fire Fest of the week.

Speaker 1 Why don't we should probably have Bubba start? Bubba. Bubba?

Speaker 3 Bubba's asleep right now.

Speaker 3 He's literally asleep.

Speaker 1 Oh, God.

Speaker 3 Okay, no, he's not. He's not.
He's watching. He's watching the mic thing.
He doesn't have the input on your audio. He just hears us.
All right. My mistake.
I want to clear the air.

Speaker 3 Bubba was not asleep.

Speaker 1 Bubba. He was reading the back of his eyelids.

Speaker 3 Bubba, what's your fire fest of the week? Billy almost broke a cabinet with his chair. Bubba, what's your fire fest of the week?

Speaker 11 My fire fest of the week is just.

Speaker 11 I forgot to ask Sam Hubbard a certain question, you know, catching up with him. I wish I just reconnected with him earlier.

Speaker 3 Good Fire Fest.

Speaker 1 It sounds like a rough week for you, Bubba.

Speaker 1 Can you ask, this is like,

Speaker 1 PFT's down on the sidelines because Bubba doesn't have headphones and he can hear me. PFT, could you ask him, is he feeling rested? They want to know, Bubba, are you feeling rested?

Speaker 4 The game never sleeps.

Speaker 1 No, I don't sleep.

Speaker 1 The game never sleeps. The game never sleeps.

Speaker 3 You heard it here for me. It just takes cat naps.

Speaker 1 All right, thank you, Bubba. Yeah.
The game never sleeps. Unless it's a very important thing that needs to happen.
Then maybe sometimes it sleeps.

Speaker 1 Hank, your fire fest of the week.

Speaker 4 My fire fest of the week, besides the fact that I don't get to enjoy life on the road like these guys, I just have to get on a measly plane later and

Speaker 4 probably fall asleep and wake up in San Diego. So I kind of I don't get the thrill of being on the road that these guys do, which sucks.

Speaker 4 But my other firefest is that my building hasn't had hot water in like two weeks. It has like lukewarm water for like maybe a minute and then it gets cold.
I feel like I'm in like the military.

Speaker 4 You know what does can't take hot showers.

Speaker 3 You know what does have scalding hot water is hotel rooms. Really hot.
Yeah. The shower this morning was almost too hot, actually.
You know what else it has?

Speaker 4 What? Soup.

Speaker 1 Oh, he got you.

Speaker 1 We got the soup, Hank. We got your soup.

Speaker 1 The best part is you guys are saying this to Hank, who's going to be in a hotel for like the next two and a half weeks.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but we are right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's a difference. Got his ass.

Speaker 4 But yeah, I don't really know what's going on. Another guy that we work with lives in my building.
It's the same. He's got the same problem.
It just got cold and our hot water just shut off.

Speaker 1 You should stop paying rent?

Speaker 1 Rent strike. I should.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, PFD, your firefest.

Speaker 3 My firefest of the week is pretty self-explanatory. We're about to get into a car right now after all having eaten Skyline Chili for lunch and drive for seven hours.

Speaker 3 We do need to pick up some Skyline Chili on the road, though. So I don't know because we're going to be flying.
I want to bring some Skyline Chili.

Speaker 3 to Los Angeles, and I want to have it ready on ice if the Bengals win. But we're not going to be in LA.
We're going to have to fly to Louisiana on Super Bowl Sunday.

Speaker 3 So I don't know if I'm going to be allowed to fly with Skyline Chili because I don't know if it's considered a liquid or a solid.

Speaker 1 I think you'll be okay from LA to Louisiana. Give it up for Chicago.

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Speaker 1 Because we're flying private. Oh, okay.
Nice. Okay, great.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so

Speaker 1 I did know that.

Speaker 3 I had forgotten, actually.

Speaker 3 But the Skyline Chili in the stomachs on the road, that's going to be...

Speaker 3 It will definitely test the strength of our friendship and of our unit because so far, so good. But this is, you're really going to get to learn a lot about each other in the next couple hours here.

Speaker 3 Fortunately, I did stock up on Axe body spray, not for me, but for the car. So hopefully that'll just overpower any sort of the Skyline residue.

Speaker 4 What number did you get? Isn't Skyline a numbers place?

Speaker 3 Yeah,

Speaker 3 we got a three-way today and a bunch of Cones.

Speaker 1 And Billy likes Skyline. Billy likes Skyline.
It's actually fire.

Speaker 6 So, to be honest,

Speaker 6 I didn't have Skyline from Cincinnati before. I had it from the cans, and I didn't really like it.
Got some fresh Skyline. It's absolute gas.
It kind of tastes like Mediterranean food.

Speaker 1 Literally. Like, the chili

Speaker 6 gives off like

Speaker 1 what you call hero vibes.

Speaker 1 PFT, you say that like it's a shock. Like, Billy, we've seen Billy cook.
We know his palate.

Speaker 3 That's true. He just dumps beer on everything.

Speaker 1 Like, we've seen this man eat. We've seen this man cook.
Like, you could give him anything, and he'd be like, it's low-key gas. If it's free, Billy, like,

Speaker 1 for everyone at home, when we order food on, like, Sunday nights, Billy will be like, yo, throw a couple extra, and then he'll walk out with, like, all the leftovers.

Speaker 1 Like, Billy, if free food is on the table, Billy, it's gas for Billy.

Speaker 3 He is at garbage disposal, yeah.

Speaker 1 It's actually

Speaker 1 very good. Right, right.

Speaker 6 That's just my two cents on it.

Speaker 3 But yeah, that was my fire fest. Just being in a truck with a bunch of guys that are

Speaker 3 slamming chili for lunch. It's going to be a long day.

Speaker 1 PFT, you need to get, can you get a few cans for me as well? Because I did say, I think I tweeted maybe during the Raiders game that if the Bengals win the Super Bowl, I will bathe in Skyline Chili.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I need like...

Speaker 1 Probably like three cans. I was thinking I'd just get a bath and I'd put the Skyline chili in the bath and just take a bath with Skyline Chili.
So

Speaker 1 can you just get me a few cans?

Speaker 3 Yeah, for sure. I'm going to stock stock up because I'm also planning on chugging a bunch of it.
Maybe doing some beer bongs of Skyline Chili.

Speaker 3 Listen, I think America's rooting for the Cincinnati Bengals. So we got to get behind that.

Speaker 1 We should note, by the way, because we do keep saying America's rooting for the Cincinnati Bengals, and I have people correcting me.

Speaker 1 America's rooting for the Cincinnati Bengals, except whatever, like a few people in L.A., all of Detroit. And then...

Speaker 1 The AFC North, we don't give enough credit, like how much all these teams hate each other. So, like, people have said, yo, I'm a Steelers fan.
I am not rooting for the Bengals.

Speaker 1 So, also, the cities of Baltimore, Cleveland, and Pittsburgh are not rooting for the Bengals.

Speaker 6 Also, I kind of feel like there's a couple people in St. Louis rooting for the Rams.

Speaker 1 A few.

Speaker 1 Probably as many people in St. Louis as in all of L.A.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Listen, we are the biggest pro-St. Louis sports podcast in the world.
And I think I speak for all St. Lucians when I say go Rams.

Speaker 1 We missed it. St.
Lunatics. St.
Lunatics is what you're looking for.

Speaker 3 Shout out, Nellie. That's their proper name.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right, my Firefest is Seamless changed the color of their app, and it's fucked me up really bad.

Speaker 3 So that's it. Pretty simple.
Oh, you just updated? It's orange now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just updated it, and I keep scrolling past it, being like, where the fuck is the Seamless app? And then I get back to it. I'm like, oh, there it is.

Speaker 1 It hasn't moved on my phone, but we're all like dumb first graders, and you just do the apps off of colors. Yep.
So it should be illegal for an app to change their primary color. I agree.

Speaker 3 I don't know if you've experienced this, but when mine changed over, I noticed I got worse at determining my location when I was ordering food, where there was a streak of about three or four days where 75% of the time I would order food that would go to either my apartment when I was at work or to work when I was at my apartment.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Not, I mean, yeah, it happens.
It throws you off.

Speaker 13 Also, I'm trying to think of other brands that have done it. Instagram had a huge change.
They used to have the brown camera. Let me see.

Speaker 1 oh yeah I remember then Facebook bought them yep yep yep that's a big one you just shouldn't be able to do that you got to keep the same colors also my fire fest is the ACC refs are fucking bullshit ACC's rigged I'm gonna get an investigation what they did to Louisville on Tuesday night will not stand so I'm I stand with with with Louisville and all the people who are angry about that game we're gonna throw it in the class action lawsuit with Brian Flores it's gonna be a whole fucking thing I just like for it'd be great if we just had like a class action lawsuit just for gamblers that are just

Speaker 1 mad that they lost a bet. Like, have you lost a bet that you're mad about in 2021 or 2022? Okay, join this class action lawsuit.
There's really no specific thing that we're suing for.

Speaker 1 We're just getting our frustration out.

Speaker 3 Antonio Brown.

Speaker 3 You're on notice.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, Billy, you're Firefest. Then we'll wrap up with Jakes.

Speaker 6 So, in order to get the precious cargo to Cincinnati in a timely manner, I had to consume a huge amount of Black Rifle coffee. And after getting into Cincinnati at 3 a.m., after making great time,

Speaker 3 I could not fall asleep until about 5.

Speaker 6 And in that time, I wrote a blog, was productive, but now I'm in absolute shambles. I had a great

Speaker 6 supplement mixture to stay alert during the drive. L-theanine

Speaker 6 and lion's mane mushroom, that combined with mass amounts of caffeine in the black rifle coffee made me absolutely locked in for the drive. Highly recommended.

Speaker 3 It also turned him into like a junkyard meth head right now. So

Speaker 3 you can see what we're starting to deal with today. I'm eager to read what Billy's blog would have been because he didn't post it.
He just got in at 3.30 in the morning.

Speaker 3 after drinking probably like four black rifle coffees and doing all these supplements and then drinking two Coors Lights and then just blogged something.

Speaker 3 I'm I'm curious to know if it even resembles English because he's like embarrassed to publish it.

Speaker 6 Honestly, I think my grammar is better than normal in this blog.

Speaker 1 All right. Oh, wow.
Yeah. Nice.

Speaker 4 And then one funny thing that... Oh, sorry.
Keep going.

Speaker 6 No, no, it's totally unrelated.

Speaker 6 So when I asked the mayor if he had access to the Harambi death tapes, he looked at me and I realized in that moment that I really live in a totally different world than most of America because he was like, like, he looked at me like, what kind of sick person wants to see a gorilla gunned down?

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 I mean, we all do, so you shouldn't feel bad about that, Billy. I had the same moment, but it was for a different reason

Speaker 1 because we've had, like, with this Brian Flores stuff. We've had different people releasing statements.
Like John Elway just released one.

Speaker 1 Stephen Ross released a statement, and memes has forever corrupted my brain.

Speaker 1 Because Stephen Ross's statement is: with regards to the allegations being made by Brian Flores, I'm a man of honor and integrity and cannot let them stand without responding.

Speaker 1 And I'm just waiting for the Cassianos part to get there, and it didn't show up. And I was like, wait, what the fuck? So memes has completely broken my brain.

Speaker 1 Anytime there's any apology after the second sentence, I'm just like, okay, so where's the joke?

Speaker 1 I don't want to.

Speaker 3 We kind of glossed over a little bit of the Rooney Rule stuff that's going on with Flores, but there's, I think Big Cat's right in that it hasn't worked.

Speaker 3 You can look at the numbers of blackhead coaches in the NFL, and it hasn't improved since it was put in because there are all these sham interviews.

Speaker 3 But I did actually, because we make fun of them a lot, I wanted to give credit to Bruce Arians for being like a guy that I think we need more of, guys who will hire minorities and then proactively be like, hey, you have to interview this guy.

Speaker 3 You have to give him a shot.

Speaker 3 He's been very good at doing that. I think that's really the only way is to just have more people that aren't just like in the old boys club being, you know, able to be good people.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, advocate for it. And yeah, it's, I mean, it is.

Speaker 1 It's one of those rules that in principle seemed good, but it's been 20 years now, so they have to revisit it and try to figure out a way to actually make it work because it's not.

Speaker 1 Jake, you're Firefest to wrap us up. Yes.

Speaker 13 So last week, I dropped off my suit at the dry cleaners. Well, in the lobby for the dry cleaners to pick up.
On Friday, they said it'd be back Saturday.

Speaker 13 Saturday, the the snowstorm happened, so I figured they closed. Monday, hadn't heard back from them, and it turns out they just never picked it up.

Speaker 1 What? So, where is it?

Speaker 13 It eventually got picked up.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was close. Got somebody stole it.
That was close, boys.

Speaker 3 There's a very well-dressed thief running around Manhattan.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 13 Also, a mini Firefest is I reached out to Urban Meyer for a comment on the Sam Hubbard story that I'm starting, and he hasn't responded yet.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, he's probably got his hands full.

Speaker 1 Maybe like call call call like a Columbus area like TJI Fridays. See if they've seen him.

Speaker 13 Working on it. Yeah.
Like, hey, is Urban there? So stay tuned for that next week.

Speaker 1 You should, you should honeypot him. We should find someone who can go like wherever Urban's at.

Speaker 1 Like, imagine if we just sent like an attractive young woman and then he like you know, started doing his finger in the butthole thing and then she just like whispered sweetly into his ear, hey, is it true that you found Sam Hubbard at Mueller High School and he was just a lax player?

Speaker 1 Care to comment?

Speaker 3 Yeah, I like that idea. Jake, if you want to do it remotely, though, you should just use one of those face app things where you turn your face into a chick

Speaker 3 and you call yourself, I don't know, like Cake Marsh or something like that. And you email him and he can see your avatar, and then he'll probably be more likely to respond to you.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. All these things work.

Speaker 4 What are you going to say, Hank? One other quick road trip, funny anecdote.

Speaker 4 I came in the studio today and was looking around and I noticed that the barbell was gone, and I was like, who the fuck would take the barbell out of our studio? Like, that's such a crazy move.

Speaker 4 And then I realized that Billy took the barbell in the truck.

Speaker 1 Right. The big ass.
He'll be working out all trip. It's basically the, it's, it's bringing your, your sneakers on the road to work out in the hotel gym on steroids.

Speaker 1 He's literally bringing the hotel gym with him.

Speaker 3 No, Billy's going to actually do it, though. I have confidence.
And he also brought two 45s and two 25-pound plates.

Speaker 3 And it's in the truck bed, which, as Billy pointed out, is very good for traction when driving over ice.

Speaker 1 Yeah, weighs it down. That's huge.
How's it going to get? I mean, there's no way we're going to see that again.

Speaker 6 The barbell and weights?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 You didn't think about it coming back.

Speaker 3 That moment that you saw right there on Billy's face was the look of a man

Speaker 3 that did not think about the return trip.

Speaker 1 No, there's no way he thought about it. He thought that it was just going to magically appear back in the studio.
Like, the truck's coming back, but do you know where it's going? It's not coming.

Speaker 1 They're not going to drop it out on 7th Avenue. He's like, hey, the truck's back.

Speaker 1 I might drive the truck back.

Speaker 1 Okay, you should. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what he planned this whole time.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I welcome that. That's actually a good idea.
That's a good use of your time.

Speaker 3 That'll be Billy's job.

Speaker 1 GoPro?

Speaker 3 That'll be Billy's job from now on, is just driving aimlessly around the country and checking in with us from the road.

Speaker 1 Put a GoPro.

Speaker 1 Put a GoPro on it, and we'll just, you know, just fucking send you on your way. I actually think that's actually a great idea.
All right, numbers. And then we'll see everyone on Sunday night.

Speaker 1 We'll be in LA.

Speaker 3 17. Let's go 21.

Speaker 6 69.

Speaker 6 6.

Speaker 1 Bubba, is he sleeping?

Speaker 3 No, Bubba's been awake to see you.

Speaker 1 Want to pick a number? 6, 10. Bubba says 6.
For Dylan.

Speaker 3 Steve, throwing in. Steve says four.

Speaker 1 Sixty-eight. That's the biggest loser because.
Oh,

Speaker 1 now

Speaker 1 sixty-eight.

Speaker 1 Sixty-eight.

Speaker 1 What? Sixty-eight.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Sixty-eight.

Speaker 1 It's a bad omen.

Speaker 2 Silverback Gorillas are alpha.

Speaker 3 Lucky guys.