Taylor Heinicke, Drive To 405 + Fyre Fest

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You got a video that he released today. Hank, you can now rest easy.
You can die in peace. I'm a soldier.
On his Instagram story, someone put up a picture of the Brady for the Barstow Sports Academy. He said, soldiers for life.
So I'm a soldier. Thank you, Tom.
And then, like I said, the video's coming. It came, and I came.
It was i came it was beautiful it was a beautiful video beautiful uh you know just a beautiful way to go out from tom billy is so jealous that you're a soldier right now so did you guys see the video pft and billy billy and pft are in cincinnati right now yeah we're actually we're in the mayor's office in cincinnati we just spoke with uh with mayor pureval about the mayor's bet coming up so we got a video coming out next that. Gave him some advice going into that.
But we just finished a big hearty lunch at Skyline Chili. Billy's in full Billy mode right now.
He was on his best behavior around the mayor for 99% of the time that we were here. He didn't really talk much.
He was very respectful. We sat down to eat lunch and Billy was like, Mr.
Sir Mayor, thank you for having us. It was like super polite.
And then as the mayor was getting up to leave, Billy goes, hey, I got a dumb question. And the mayor's like, okay.
And Billy goes, do you have access to like the behind the scenes security footage of when they shot that kid or they shot Harambe in the gorilla enclosure? And the mayor was like, what? I was like, Jesus, Billy. But it's what, what you know we should have expected what was the answer yeah wait he definitely does yeah that's what i'm saying so yeah i actually he said he he said he said the city of cincinnati is separate than the cincinnati zoo and like there's like it's different but like look you're the mayor if you wanted to you could call up the police chief who definitely has the footage and like check it out like you're telling me that the police chief isn't just like showing that to people i mean i don't know this is a hilarious moment where i understand pft where you're coming from in terms of you were there and you had to live with billy asking that question it probably was very awkward but from afar because we didn't have to deal with that awkwardness that question is actually like I want the answer to it as well imagine if I didn't ask that question yeah who could imagine a world where Billy didn't ask I mean I was right there and I didn't ask the question I'll be honest Billy has been a pleasure to be around for most of this trip there was a moment yesterday we were on the road and he did look down at the speedometer and he goes, oh, we're like sneaky.
This truck is sneaky going 100 miles an hour right now. Like he wasn't the one driving it.
Like the truck was just going 100 miles per hour. And he's like, well, the truck carries the speed well, like like somebody who's big bone, got a big frame, but they wear their weight well.
Uh, but he's been good. He drove like 11 hours, uh, 13 hours total yesterday, actually 11 hours.
We got into Cincinnati. It's raining.
It's sleeting. Uh, there's a lot of ice.
I'm going to try to make it to Memphis tonight. So we've, we've been, uh, we've been pretty busy, but I did have an opportunity to look at that Tom Brady video today.
And I was just happy for Hank. I was happy that Hank got Everything that he wanted out of out of his

Guy it kind of almost feels

Though like you guys bullied Tom Brady

Into making this video

I mean you know nothing about video editing PFT

But you can't just whip something up like that in one

Day

It's just not how it works yeah no you're right he only had one

Day to think about his time

In Massachusetts well no but like if

In your you know

Conspiracy theory that we bullied him

Into it that would mean that he wasn't planning on doing it and then we bullied him and then he was like i have to do this versus him planning it out the whole way before p-boy ruined everything before p-boy yeah and the conspiracy theory now which actually is fucked up if this is how it went down is that uh and i i don't know if we danced around it or said it explicitly, that some PA or someone at ESPN saw the man in the arena and then told Schefter. So Schefter didn't even get it in real ways.
He got it through someone leaking it to him from the ESPN offices. Are we just speculating on that?

That's a new theory that I've seen.

Yeah.

I do have one last stat, by the way.

Billy did a great job with the stats.

This one made me laugh very hard, though.

Tom Brady, he's second all-time in receiving after turning 40 years old.

Jerry Rice has 2,169 receiving yards after turning 40. Tom Brady has six.
Brett Favre has minus two. And I'm pretty sure that Brett Favre caught the pass from himself.
Yes, yes. Yeah, so, I mean, that record could be broken, though, if Fitzy plays another season, right? Yeah, if he catches a couple balls.
Or he could get on the list if he just catches a ball and goes even minus three.

He'd be number four on the list.

One ball, yeah.

That's an awesome stat, though.

I love that.

I'm just happy for Hank, really.

When I saw the Instagram story, he tagged you personally, right?

Sure.

Kind of.

Yeah.

My name was in it.

Ish.

Yeah.

Your face was in it.

Someone else might have tagged me, and he reposted it.

So on his story, my name was in it.

So, yeah. He tagged me.
So we're officially at peace with Tom Brady? I've always been at peace with Tom Brady, so yeah. Yeah, I think it's retired.
I think it's time to move on. The only last thing I had was Skip Bayless.
I tip my hat to him. Someday I hope to be as good as Skip Bayless because he made Tom Brady's retirement about Aaron Rodgers, which I fucking loved.
He Aaron Rodgers is watching all this which he probably is he's probably horrified with the outpouring of emotion and respect for Tom Brady because he won't get anything like that when he retires I was like I was like I just sat you know sometimes when you just see a take and you're like holy fuck this guy's in the zone like even yeah I'm such a Rodgers hater and even I couldn't have connected those dots like incredible he was like he actually said I think Aaron Rodgers is contemplating retirement but he can't retire now because he'd be following Tom Brady and and everyone loves Tom Brady I was like skip you've done it again my man I fucking love you yeah his brain just switches between thinking about how LeBron would react to a situation and thinking about how Aaron Rodgers would react to a situation, just back and forth. He's the king.
Nobody will ever touch Skip. He is.
All right, so we don't have a ton because we're in that weird zone where we're getting ready for the Super Bowl. We do have Taylor Heineke coming up.
What else you guys got from the road? Like, how is... I just heard briefly that you were saying that...
What were you saying, Hank? Bubba. Bubba.
Oh, yeah. We should talk about Bubba.
So, Bubba's there. Bubba's here.
Bubba's there. Bubba, so on Monday, we have an interview that I...
Like, it's like three years in the making. It's a very big interview.
We did it on Wednesday. Seven years in the making.
Yeah, like three years in the making. It's very big interview.

We did it on Wednesday.

Yeah.

Very long time in the making.

It's a great interview.

Get excited.

One of our best interviews ever.

And Bubba, which is it's kind of you can set your watch to it every six months or so.

He'll just sleep in through a very important thing that's going on. Like he famously in for the Coach O Joe Burrow interview after the national championship.
He missed a flight when we were going to where? Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield in Cleveland.
So it was about time. The clock, if we were a factory and it said days since Bubba has slept in when we have an important event going on.
We were right around like 180 days, right around when he needed to do it. So he just didn't get up at 1030, which isn't even late in the morning on Wednesday, missed it.
So his punishment was he had to hop in the car last minute notice and drive to L.A. with you guys.
Yeah. And, you, Bubba has been, he's been a joy to have also on this trip.
We do need to stock him up with some clothes. So our plan is to, uh, swing by the Bass Pro Shop pyramid and just stock Bubba up, just have him rocking like full Carhartt, Duck Commander, Geely suit, you name it.
So we're going to do some shopping there cause he didn't have time to pack ahead pack ahead of time but you're right i think we should probably look into the astrology factor and see what happens whenever like what lines up whenever bubba sleeps in and misses an interview i'm sure it's something like mercury and retrograde and when that happens you you know that bubba is about to be dozy as fuck it was a very funny moment because we were getting ready for the interview and pft like came over me and like very seriously was like i'm nervous about bubba and i was like i'm not this is

this about right right when he should have done this like every six months no matter what he's

just gonna sleep through something and we're gonna be like well this sucks but we love him so his

punishment he's got to get in the car yeah i think we had a pretty good first day though on the open

road we had some good tunes going good playlist i've been vaping way too much i i woke up feeling

on the vape on this trip to the point where I get to LA.A. and I never want to look at a jewel again.
Yeah, you have popcorn lung. So, wait.
So, you guys, I overheard you saying you're going to Memphis tonight and you get the hour back, which is huge, and that it's the difference of getting there between 930 and now you're getting there at 8 there at 8 30 so is are the roads okay to drive because it looks like there's a lot of ice are we going to just slide our way to memphis billy so thankfully a lot of the highways going out into the south are straight so something that we realized last night is that we had to go slow around all the curves going through Pennsylvania. Then once we hit Ohio, which was mostly straight highway, you can still carry, you know, 70 to 80 miles per hour safely.
Whereas, um, going around the corners, we had to go like 50. So with this ice, the big thing will be stopping.
Not many two people are on the roads, so no one's going to stop short in front of us so as long as we just cruise we're going to make awesome time okay so billy's never made the drive from cincinnati to memphis i've looked i looked up i'm sure we're going to be going through some hills and mountains i don't think it's going to be just a straight line no but he's thinking it's going to be like new mexico where you just see an open road and drive but once we get south of kentucky there's no ice if you look at but but what i i think what what pft is saying and he's correct is that kentucky and and tennessee are are they they are not flat right hills the appalachian mountains are there but the highway we take cuts right through i don't think billy cuts right i looked it – It cuts straight. It's a straight line between here.
DK Metcalf could get there in about two hours. You know what? I think you could probably, if you just hop in the car, like almost like a bobsled, you guys can just push it and not even hit the gas, and you'll be there.
Like going straight downhill for six, seven hours. Boom, you're there.
Seems like the easiest drive ever to make. Yeah.
No, there will will be some turns on this route i'm pretty confident and billy just said that there's no ice in memphis i just looked at a tweet that showed icicles hanging off every tree in downtown memphis so but again billy's just saying things currently ice raining it's just it's not oh i see what he's saying no he's saying that the ice isn't currently still it's not raining ice it's just ice everywhere yeah the ice is and i also think it's also raining ice i think it's all the above and so yeah this will be an interesting afternoon i'm very excited for it obviously but uh yeah it's good times on the open road so far uh we'll see we'll see how it was just funny it was just funny hearing the conversation because it was like, we're going to, like, Billy basically was like, we're going to make, like, perfect time. And I was like, I'm pretty sure it's a really bad story.
We made amazing time. We did.
We made great time. That's true.
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I'm pushing it to the limit. Fuck yeah.
Who's got the aux? PFT. We switched back and forth a little bit.
Now, I took the aux for a little bit, but then Billy asked me to put on his high school lifting playlist. And I'm pretty sure that all of Billy's playlists are high school lifting playlists, but he had one in particular that he wanted me to rock out to.
It was pretty good. Waka F walka flocka was on there we cruised into cincinnati at the stroke of 3 15 listening to to kasha 6 9 so uh yeah it was wonderful it was a wonderful little trip billy by 6 9 yeah there we go wait wait so pft are you not driving at all i haven't driven yet billy wanted to do this whole thing uh on his own yesterday so i'm gonna take the wheel a little bit today and take over but um yeah he took us all the way there i mean all the credit in the world to billy for just he he did it he said he was gonna do it he did it he called a shot i was just i was gonna say like you gotta you gotta drive a little bit because it's gonna get to billy's head very quickly yeah for sure it's like i am a professional trucker it already has billy billy thinks that he's the captain right now he just he took my computer earlier when we were trying to figure out the the video and microphone settings and i was like billy give my computer he's like no i got it he thinks he thinks that he owns me um all right so before we get to taylor heineke the only other thing we had to talk about is we got more details on the brianores thing because I know we had it breaking news or breaking moves on Tuesday's show.
But since we finished, we had the allegation that Stephen Ross offered him $100,000 to throw games. I actually looked back, and I'm willing to be the face of any class action lawsuit against the Dolphins for that season because I did lose money.
I looked back through some bet slips and I found some bets that I had pertaining to Dolphins games that season. But yeah, this is like, it's weird because the Belichick Rooney rule thing feels like it's the more important and there's more evidence.
And it's like one of those things where we've all known for a while the Rooney rule was good in principle, but it doesn't really work in reality because all you have to do is check a box and you don't actually have to give the real interview like the Giants are allegedly doing. But the Steven Ross thing, like if this actually turns out to be true and there might be a witness, this could be a major, major thing for the NFL, match fixing in European soccer type of thing.
I have no idea what's going to happen. I think that they're going to force him to sell the team.
I think this is the only way that an owner could be forced to sell because owners have so many skeletons in their closet that they're never going to vote another guy out if you get caught doing like a jerry jones or whatever and you've got a couple strippers up in your booth because like that's that's what they do on the daily they don't want any of that dirt coming out but when you start involving like changing the outcomes of games and bribing coaches, things like that, I feel like this is a great excuse for owners to try to sell the team or try to vote them out. I think it's a two-thirds majority is required to vote them out.
Vote them out, get them to sell the team, and then get a new billionaire come in, buy the Dolphins, and all of a sudden all their franchises are worth a shitload of money. So I can only hope that Dan Snyder has also been paying his coaches to throw games for the last 25 years.
That would be the dream at this point. Hugh Jackson said that he was, well, he implied that he was getting paid by the Browns to do it too.
That'd be crazy if we got three or four different teams that all came out with their own cheating scandals in that other way, the match fixing. And then we just had a bunch of new owners take over.
That'd be cool. Well, Hugh Jackson, he ended up walking back some of his comments because I think he saw the story and was like, hey, wait, that that's exactly what is happening in Cleveland.
But the differences in Cleveland, they were very open about the fact they were tanking. that was they were basically like we are doing a trust the process type of deal you remember when they hired the analytics guy and everything Sasha and yeah that was the plan so I think Hugh Jackson looked at it was like hey that looks like my situation like no because they were they were very open about it in Cleveland whereas Miami I yeah if Steven Ross was offering $100,000, it's fucking insane.
And I did think it was going to be a he said, he said thing, but then it seems like there might be a witness to it, which makes it very, very interesting. I also think that paying a coach $100,000 to lose games as the coach of the Miami Dolphins is a terrible, terrible investment.
Like that just naturally happens, like especially with the Browns. If you're paying – okay, first of all, it's the Browns.
Second of all, it's Hugh Jackson. How much more do you need to incentivize your team to lose than, one, being the Cleveland Browns and, two, hiring Hugh Jackson? I think that's just Hugh trying to get his name back in, back in, in the press so that he can get another job.
That's, that's my initial take on it. But yeah, he's coaching at grambling state.
Yeah. So Mike, that's right.
Yeah. Like, yeah, Hugh Jackson, this is the same situation.
No, you're right. And it's, it is, it is there like the, the things around it, like the fact that Adam Gates was the coach before Brian Flores, like you the perfect coach to just keep losing games and the Dolphins though that 2019 season that was the season where we did the uh the dead dolphin jokes remember they started 0-7 and then they actually finished they won five of their last nine games so yeah I it's weird to look at now because you have no idea when this happened exactly, but it does look like a situation where they were actively trying to lose, and Brian Flores resisted that and got wins out of a really bad team at the end of the season.
Maybe that's actually a masterful motivation technique, is to bring your coach in and pay him money to lose games. That lights a fire on his ass because you're questioning his integrity.
Then end up winning games i think that's just the plot to major league yes it is we're gonna move yeah we're gonna move the team yeah they want us to lose they put together a great bunch of losers let's win in spite of them yeah uh billy did you have a point on that you you look like you had you had billy point face oh i think we need a like a sports gambling sec to make sure everyone's staying competitive i think okay i think they do have that like a regulatory gambling licensing boards yeah yeah well yeah there's a but are they investigating there's a law sports no they could they could absolutely like this could be federal charges and it actually is the interesting part is that if Flores, like, the only way that Flores could have been really fucked here is if he actually had taken the money and it had come out because then he would have gone to jail and Stephen Ross probably wouldn't have. Yeah, and also Stephen Ross, he's tied in with some gambling stuff too, right? That is a fact.
So, yeah, very, very interesting. I'd like to see those bet slips from Mr.
Ross that year, too.

Want to get your guys' feedback because we did talk a little bit about the commander's name on Wednesday's show,

but they unveiled it and they unveiled the uniforms.

I've said what I think about the piece several times, which is just, okay, whatever, win games, we'll be fine.

The new jerseys are what the new jerseys are, except the black ones I thought looked sick until I realized they were just the Steelers uniforms, and we just copied the Steelers uniforms, which admittedly are very cool, and I'm sure that our defense will play faster wearing those. But what are your guys' thoughts as outsiders on how the process unfolded? I'm just curious, PFT, and I know the answer probably, but at any point, I know I'm curious how many people are involved in these team names and like studies and all that stuff did anyone bring up the point that if we hand out rally towels they're going to be called comrades comrades like that there was a lot of those jokes that came out and it's like i was curious if anyone had thought about this before well or if they realized after the fact that we're just going to be have a bunch of commie jokes even though we're dcC., and have a bunch of cum jokes.
Yeah, no, I mean, we're already selling shirts. Go commies.
I'm a commie. I'm saying it loud.
I'm saying it proud. Our chant should be hailed to the Red Scare.
I think these are all great things that we can do as a fan base. But I actually told Jason Wright, like, let me know what the name is going to be.
I won't tell anybody. Just give my Internet troll brain 48 hours to work on it, and I'll tell you ahead of time what everybody's going to say and the different directions the Internet's going to go.
So, no, I don't think that they employ enough Internet trolls in the front offices of these organizations. But they went with a safe choice.
They three, the three key checklists that Snyder hit. It had to be a name that was not trademarked.
It had to be an actual team name and then it had to not be a racial slur. And that's three for three Snyder's happy.
It was always going to be the commanders. I'm sure about that.
The comrades, the com rag thing is, is very funny and like, Oh, I'm, I'm calming. I'm going to be saying I'm calming.
I'm calming all the time whenever we score touchdowns next year. So, yeah, it was a little bit ham-fisted, but I don't think that there's a way that you can unveil a team name in this day and age without having it leak a little bit, you know, in the 24 hours to 48 hours before.
Because, like, Theismann's obviously going to get drunk and go on a radio show and say something that's just joe theisman well yeah and the helicopter was very funny that they they were able to spot it i i i thought i mean the team name i think i said on wednesday show but like people get mad about it for 24 hours no one like will remember it care then football will be back and we'll be like who cares you know what i mean like we're it's not going to be i don't think it make it makes or breaks anything could it red hogs have been better yeah sure but who cares like once football's on i don't really care what the name of the team is i'm gonna be watching it betting it doing all that stuff i did think that in the all-time troll move dan snyder should have just unveiled the new logo and it was just the indians and it was the old cleveland indians logo and it was like you guys asked me to change it here it is that would have been very funny it would have been great i thought that the bullets would have been a great name too that that was such a cool name for for the washington wizards and so if they had just like taken bullets from them that would have been a great great move by by dan Snyder uh and when you look through the the team nicknames in the NFL right now there are a lot of ones that if you unveiled today you'd be like what the fuck is that like can you imagine the Miami Dolphins being like we're the Dolphins I think people would roast the shit out of the Dolphins today yeah that one kind of makes sense the New York Giants if there's any people would roast the Giants if it came out today. That one would be weird.
The Browns, yeah. Well, he named it after himself.
Yeah, a lot of them are just smart because it's like people like animals. They like rooting for animals.
Yeah. It's very basic.
Right. Just make it an animal, make it a cartoon animal, and we'll all get in line.
We're still looking at what the mascot's going to be and the theme song's going to be, but I'm hoping that since we're the commanders, which is the name of one of Joe Biden's dogs, the good one, Major Biden becomes the animal mascot. That'd be awesome to have him just patrolling the sidelines, biting the opponent, pissing and shitting all over himself.
That's what I want. Yeah.
I mean, it would be like the Tennessee dog biting the Georgia player. Or no, it was the Georgia.
I think it was the Georgia biting a Tennessee player. Or Auburn, maybe.
I'm in for that. Wasn't that a police dog? What did you say? Billy just thought that Ugga was a police dog.
No, there's a video of the police dog biting the college football player i haven't seen that we'll have to fact check that one i think that i think that might be the ugga but maybe not yeah is it the ugga yeah well i'll find the ugga um okay let's get let's get to our interview with taylor heineke though we have him uh commander's starting quarterback as of right now.

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Okay, here he is, Taylor Heineke. Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, starting quarterback, Washington football team.
It is Taylor Heineke. He is here.
I have to say this to start, promoting his Instagram. I mean, I just, we got the note that was like, you don't have anything to promote.

You just wanted to come on, hang out, and you have an Instagram.

Follow Taylor Heineke.

That's some brand building right there.

Yeah, I mean, it's pretty simple.

Yeah.

Just follow it up.

Where are we at right now?

I want to see what the PMT bump is going to be because I'm demanding, actually, that everybody

that's listening to this episode goes to follow Taylor Heineke. He's at 169,000 followers right now.
We need new posts, though. You got to, like, you got to, we got to play ball here.
We'll get you more followers, but you got to drop something hot for the people. I will, I will.
I mean, during the football season, it's all football, but, you know, now that we're out, get a little fun with it.

Okay, good, good. So we're going to demand that people follow Taylor Heineke on Twitter.
But, yeah, we're very excited to have you on. Or, sorry, on Instagram.
You haven't tweeted since, like, 2015. I saw that.
What's going on there? Well, if I'm not mistaken, back in 2017, I played on Christmas Day in Houston. and I got a lot of shit from you guys.

Big Hattons, part- mistaken back in 2017 i played on christmas day in houston and i got a lot of shit from you guys big hat in uh particular um saying that quavo should have uh quavo should have been uh in there instead of me do you remember that no wait so wait when was this on christmas day christmas day in 2017 we played the Steelers. Okay.
And I was only in there for like 10 snaps, I believe, and I got a concussion. And then the articles were coming out saying that I was only slightly better than Quavo in high school.
And I think a lot of people ran with that one. Oh, man.
I'm pretty sure that Big Cat didn't know who Quavo was in 2017. What the fuck, PFT? Well, 2018, we were late adopters.
Come on. I knew who he was.
That's funny. Well, I apologize for that.
I did look up what other tweets I had about you, and it was in 2017. I just said, what the fuck is a Taylor Heineke? And then I followed it up with, like, they should just introduce you as the guy that had us betting on Old Dominion football games.
Because that was, it's like, oh, yeah, that guy. I know him.
Yeah. Those games back in college, those were all locks, man.
You were covering the spread on all those. Yeah.
That's funny. I apologize.
I don't remember saying that. But that's a good reason to stop tweeting.
Twitter's stupid anyway we're we're gonna follow you all on instagram that's way better yeah yeah twitter's uh twitter's twitter trouble man that's the only only bad things come from twitter um all right so we we love watching you play this year uh i mean you you've gone back and forth from being the guy for pft which has been a fun uh watch i your style like you are – did you learn anything from Ryan Fitzpatrick? You've always been exactly like this because it is fun when you make plays that are broken down and you're like, I'm going to make something of this and I have the confidence to do it. It's very, very fun to watch.
Like has that always just been I feel like I can get out of any situation, I can make good happen yeah that's that's kind of you know my whole life I didn't play quarterback until eighth grade and that's when everything started to click for me um but you mentioned Fitz and it's funny because I can see myself um kind of like him um kind of the same ride everything you know he's he's been in the league for what 10 15 17 years something like that and uh throughout his career he just jumped from place to place and was back up and then kind of thrown in and back up and thrown in and um i feel like i'm kind of on that that track hopefully on that track but you know the way i play i saw a lot of myself um you know when he was on the field as well we kind of had the same type of um we played the same same type of way for sure yeah you're never out of it when Taylor Heineke's in the game like you have you have an ability that's I think admirable which is you have a very high fuck it quotient where you can you can yeah you can you can see some bad shit out there you can make a bad play but the very next series you're going to go out there and you're going to do something equally as reckless, and usually it turns out good. If you keep taking those shots, sometimes that's the way.
You can't pick and choose when you're going to be aggressive. You're aggressive all the time, which I loved watching this year.
I said a lot of things about you, most of them positive this year. I think I said you're elite.
I said you're Brett Favre with a bigger dick. I said that you're a franchise quarterback as well.
But I think there's one, you know, like this offseason is going to be important for you because Ron Rivera has obviously said we're looking to get a different quarterback. He's been pretty open about that, that they are going to go out there and try to find somebody.
But at the same time, you're going to have the opportunity to beat out somebody in training camp next year and be the guy. So how are you going into this? This is probably the most important offseason of your career.
Yeah, so when I saw that and I heard that, it's nothing new. I was kind of expecting that.
But, you know, for me, my biggest thing, I just try to control what I can control. You know, I did.
I had a year, you know, it was healthy throughout the year, had some bad mistakes, had some bad games, but hopefully put enough good film out there to, you know, stick around. So for me now, it's just getting in the weight room, getting that weight back on and, and, you know,

working on some things I want to work on that I've seen on film this past year.

So, um, again, you know, I'm not, I'm not worried about it wherever, you know,

football takes me, I'll go. But, um, my biggest thing is I just want to keep playing ball.

That's a good answer.

So how much weight did you lose during the season?

Uh, I probably lost about five to eight pounds. Oh, that's nothing.
I i mean that's yeah that's nice to be like i can put it back on yeah it's like i went in very solid 215 um but you know throughout the year you're not allowed you can't lift and you know you're getting beat up all the time so that that muscle really turned into fat so i'm trying to uh trying to walk that stuff off right now did you see that uh that pat mahomes pulled a Heineke on Sunday? That's what they're calling it now. They're calling it pulling a Heineke when you reach out and you just tap the pylon with the ball.
He's been watching film on you. Yeah, I was sitting on this couch and I was watching it when he did that.
I was like, oh, that looks familiar. How about that game, by the way? That was unbelievable.
Incredible. It was awesome.
Yeah, when you're watching that, are you able to watch it as a fan? Are you watching it thinking about other things, like ways that you could translate what's going on in the game to what you do? I try to watch it as a fan. I'm still a big fan of football.
I'm a big fan of good quarterback play, especially playoff football. But at the same time, when I'm seeing some decisions that some quarterbacks make or, you know, especially playoff football.
But at the same time, you know, when I'm seeing, you know, some decisions that some quarterbacks make or, you know, audibles and stuff like that, I kind of, you know, study that. But, you know, when I'm not playing, I really try and sit back, enjoy it, you know, have a nice Bud Light and relax.
Coors Light. You could say Coors Light.
Coors Light. We'll bleep that out.
That was fucked up that Heineken didn't give you an advertisement deal. Like, you put it out there on a platter for them, and they turned their back on you.
Yeah, I was trying that hard. Like, the last two years, I was really trying for it, and they weren't budging.
So I don't know if you guys know the story, but I was talking about it in, you know, interviews and press conferences, and next thing you know, Bud Light saw it and was like, hey, we're ready to go.

So that day they sent me a contract and signed with Bud Light that day.

Damn.

Good for you.

Act fast, yeah.

I'm glad you got paid off it, but all-time marketing blunder

by the guys over at that Red Star beer company.

Yeah.

It's unfortunate, but, you know.

So your season this year, Washington football team had some ups and downs.

You guys went on a nice run there in the middle of the season where, you know, you beat the Bucs, you had some big-time wins. When that's going on, are you thinking like, okay, this is – I might actually win this job right here? Because it's got to be a weird feeling just every week knowing that you're kind of getting graded.
That's very atypical of a starting quarterback in the NFL. Does that factor in week to week what you're thinking about? No, again, you know, I, I, I hear it and it's, you know, I know what's going on, but you know, again, for me, um, it was a dream come true this year just to play.
So, you know, I, I went in the facility every day, just trying to get better and trying to get ready. And, you know, if that was gonna be my last game playing, was going to be my last game playing, but I was going to go out there and give it my all.
So, you know, I don't really think about that stuff. Again, I try and let my play take care of it all and not worry about it.
So for me this year, it worked out pretty well. We had a good run there.
Like you said, we were 2-6 and we came back 6-6. And we just went through a lot of stuff a lot of injuries and then COVID hit us right we went to the division division games and um off the field stuff with you know family members you know kind of you know passing away and stuff like that it's just it was a crazy year and for us to be in week 17 you know driving down the field and last last possession of the game to have a chance to go you know win and possibly make the playoffs.
You know, it was pretty special. Yeah.
Yeah. It was a fun season.
Definitely had its ups and downs. And like we allude to, you stepped in last year in the playoff game against the Bucs, covered the spread against Tom Brady.
You were the only quarterback to do that, by the way, in the NFL last year. So congratulations and thank you for that.
But as you're getting ready for that playoff game um it's it's a significant uptick in pressure on what you're used to i would have to imagine like what was that process like knowing you were about to start a playoff game your first playoff game um against the best quarterback in nfl history and you kind of alluded to it earlier and excuse my language you know i was in the tunnel and i was coming out and I was like fuck it you know this might be my last game um and I'm about to go against Tom Brady

no one's giving us a chance so why not just go out there have some fun and and leave it all out

there so um yeah that was a special game it would have been really sweet if the fans were able to go

um I think that would help us a lot but um you know I go back and look at that film there's only

like two or three throws I feel if if I complete those things, we're right there in it. So, again, that was a special moment.
It kind of restarted my career. And, you know, I'm just riding on those coattails right now.
Can you walk me through the – I think I remember this correctly, the Falcons game this year when you have that touchdown throw at the end of the game. It was one of those throws that you did essentially everything that you're taught to do as a quarterback and you just ignored it all and you're like I'm gonna you're like late throwing all the way across the field like wow would is there any moment where you're just like I'm just a playmaker I'm gonna make some plays and who cares if this does not meet like anything you're supposed to do? Yeah.
So, you know, again, that's kind of my game. You kind of do some things you're not taught to do.
And there's a very fine line. You know, there's some times where coaches love that.
You make a play. And then there's some times where you're like, what the hell are you thinking? And, you know, that's the line I'm kind of flirting with right now.
And I'm trying to get on the right side uh being consistent there but yeah that game was fun there was a lot of family it was kind of a homecoming for me and uh yeah jd made a great play diving in the end zone there it was that was a special moment yeah it was it was an all-time like oh god what is he doing what is he doing what is he doing oh fuck it worked holy shit taylor heineke like that's i mean those are the those are guys we love watching the most when you don't, you know, they can pull those plays out of nowhere. Have you thought at all about the headband? I don't like when guys wear headbands when they're losing.
Have you thought about ditching it when you're losing? Well, the whole story about the headband is in OTAs this year, we were really working on our play-action pass.

And coach was like, we really need to get better at, you know, good fakes.

So during a walk-through period, you know, I really get into it, put my head down.

The running back's really getting into it.

He puts his elbow up, and he nicks me right in the head.

And I have a huge – you see this scar right here?

Oh, yeah.

Busted me open.

I had to get seven stitches.

So, you know, they were trying to get me back in the helmet pretty quick there.

So I think that's a deal now oh okay have you thought about going like full durag like deon sanders style yeah i'll see i'll see how that goes with the guys next year, but we'll see how that goes. I understand how old and curmudgeon-y I sound when I'm like, take that headband off when you're losing.
But it's just one of those things. When a team is losing, it's like there should be no swag, no pieces of swag.
I hear what you're saying. Have you thought about making any changes to, like, your post-game wardrobe, depending on whether or not you win or lose? Because I feel like I don't want to tell you to do the Cam Newton thing because, you know, it'd look weird, I think, for you to go out there and have, like, a fox sitting on your head.
But you could actually pull off the wife beater and jean shorts combination with, like, a chain at the podium. I think that'd be a good look for you.
Yeah. It was funny because, you know, obviously Fitz was in the room and we all know that infamous picture of when he took Jackson's chain and his sunglasses and he was up there letting his chest hair flow out.
And it's hard to follow up with that. So I got a couple ideas next year with Logan Thomas.
I think we got a little good thing going for next year. But, you know, we'll see.
I got a feeling, you know, there's going to be some fun next year. I was reading some stories about you, and you were – admittedly you said you were kind of close to, like, being done with football.
How real how how real like close were you because I'm sure that's obviously a very hard decision you played football all your life you've been on uh some you know NFL teams XFL was it really like oh man if I don't get picked up here it's over yeah and it was uh it was a really tough time so you know obviously we're in the XFL COVID you know, cancels all that. So I'm going home and I'm thinking, what am I going to do now? And, you know, I called Coach Scott Turner, you know, ROC, and asked him if he has any coaching positions open.
So you got to go finish school first. So I came back down to Georgia, started taking online classes.
I was living with my sister at the time, know living on her couch and um sitting there just watching watching football maybe an injury happens maybe some COVID stuff happens maybe I'll get a call and I think it was week 10 or 11 and I still haven't got a call and I was like you know what I might have to start looking for that next that next uh you know that next chapter in life and sure enough that Denver remember when Denver had all those quarterbacks go down? Yes, Blake Bortles, yeah. Yeah, that's the only reason Washington called me up, just to get an emergency COVID quarterback just in case that happened.
So Blake Bortles kept you in football. Yeah, domino effect, like verbal meme, Blake Bortles being in a room with the other quarterbacks without a mask on, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot.
Taylor Heineke covers in a playoff game against Tom Brady. I love it.
Yeah. Yeah, so it was wild, man.
And then, you know, obviously some things happened with Haskins and with Alex Smith. And there I am playing Brady in the playoffs.
So it was a wild ride. That's awesome.
Shout out, Blake. We're friends with Scott Turner, and I loved his quote about you when he was basically defending you.
Like, listen, every time if Taylor has a bad game, people are just like, oh, well, he shouldn't be here. And it's like that's not how it works.
It doesn't go, like, game to game like that. Like, it's the body of work, and you can't just judge where he's from and where he ended up.
He's a good player. So, yeah, we love Scott.
And that's an awesome story, man, that you then started pretty much the whole season this year. Yeah.
And the big thing for me this past year was, you know, the big question mark was, is he durable enough to get through a whole season? And I think I checked that box off this year, and that was huge for me. So, yeah, we just got to keep it rolling.
Yeah, counterpoint to that, though. If you had gotten – like next year, if you start the season and you play like three good games in a row, we're – I mean, this reveals a lot about me and Big Cat's moral character, but we would fake like an injury to our non-throwing shoulder.
Yeah. And then hit the free agent market, cash in big time.

You know, like that's just something to think about.

I want you to win football games and I want the football team to win.

But just something for you to, you know,

just keep in the back of your mind if appropriate.

Yeah.

Remember that?

Yeah.

So the durability thing, I also read a story that you sometimes at the gym

will get like people like, oh, introduces an NFL quarterback. And guys are like, no way.
He's too small. Is there is there something that you do then to like exercise or anything where it's like, look at this, because that's kind of a cool, almost like a pool shark moment.
Whereas like, oh, we don't think this guy can play in the NFL. And then you do a workout or lift or something.
He's like, oh, fuck, we totally underestimated him. Yeah, so I hope you guys followed.
My trainer's name is Joel Seedman, and he does a lot of different crazy wacky stuff. So, yeah, it's funny because a lot of the guys that don't think I'm NFL quarterback are high school kids.
Like, you're not a NFL quarterback, and you're just talking shit um so then we'll start working out and we start doing this crazy stuff that you know they can't do that i've been doing for five six years so i'll do it pretty easily and they're like holy shit you know so the more they're around and the more guys they see around um you know they start having more respect for them but you know you know how those high school kids are man they uh they like to talk shit like to roast yeah i i just love the idea like that's that's got to feel like the all-time flex for someone to doubt that you are a nfl quarterback and then you do something in training or something like oh yeah because you can always tell like it's it you know when we're around athletes or even if you've if you've ever been around anyone who's a really good athlete they could do anything like it could be swing a golf club or shoot like some hoops they might not play basketball and you're like oh that's the difference between regular people and exceptional athletes like the way they move is just so off the chart so i you should just start doing that at random gyms just go to like la fitness and just start having everyone doubt that you're an NFL quarterback. That's what I'd do.
Keep a football in a bag with you at all times. And if anybody doubts, you'd be like, let's step outside and then just walk out of the parking lot and just throw the football as far as you can.
Any questions? Sometimes, you know, it's kind of, you know, it pisses me off sometimes when they say that.

But at the same time, it's kind of a compliment.

I'm six foot and 200 pounds, and here I am making it.

So it's kind of more of a credit to how hard I've been working.

But those kids can talk shit all the time.

You're playing the game on expert mode right now as a six foot, 200 200-pound guy. Anybody can do it if they're six-foot-five and 235, you know? Yeah.
Yeah, I was watching Josh Allen play being 6'4", 240, and he's running over DBs and just throwing the ball 80 yards down the field. I'm like, man, I wish I could do that.
Nice, yeah. Are you sure you're six feet? Oh, come on now.
I usually say 6'1". Oh, because I would have guessed.
If you said 6'1", I would have been like, oh, he's probably six feet. So are you sure you're six feet? I think it's six foot half inch, so, you know, in between.
Okay. Okay.
And you're six foot. How much? You just looked up.
Who did you look up at? TV. How much do you bench? You you do bench not anymore uh the highest ever got though was i think about 335 340 in college that's pretty good for a collegiate yeah i was built like a linebacker i was like tim tebow is asking in college i i read that you punted in college too right yeah so that's actually funny because we didn't actually do like a punt formation.
was like we're at the 50 yard line we went on the fourth down a lot and uh if we didn't get the type of coverage that we wanted i would kind of just back up three yards pretend like i'm calling an audible and then the center would snap it to me i would pooch punt it so um i'm still pretty sure i'm the leading punter in uh in odu history though yeah i saw it was it wasn't like it It wasn't like once or twice. It was something like 600 punt yards that you had.
So that's hilarious that you guys – I love that. I wish more teams did that.
More teams should do the pooch kick. Ben Roethlisberger used to do that back when he was able to move.
He had a sick pooch kick where he'd down it inside the five every single time. you talked about odu some call it the harvard of southeastern virginia and then it's so it's you from odu um i'm a caa guy myself too so like i'm james madison used to kick our ass all the time uh and then you're you're sharing a locker room with with fitzy obviously the harvard guy in the nfl what was your relationship with him like uh just on on a one-on-one basis because Big Cat and I got to meet him uh over the summer we came to training camp he's just like a cool he's just like a bro just like a cool guy um down to earth so what was your relationship like was he was he helping you as like you know a mentor of sorts or was it just more like two guys that were you know forming, forming a friendship? You know, at first it was, it was a friendship.
We wanted to get that established. And then, you know, once we started getting comfortable with each other and we're out in the field and you kind of see my strengths and weaknesses, he would help me out a lot.
So, you know, during training camp, there was one, one week where I just, for some reason, I was not accurate throwing to my left. And, you know, he's like, I've had this problem in the past.
You know, this is where I did to fix it. And it helped tremendously.
So, you know, every time he saw something that I needed to work on, he would kind of give me his take on it. And most of the time it worked out great.
So it was unfortunate that he got hurt in that first week. It was a pretty bad injury, especially at that age.

And he wasn't around too much because he was getting a lot of treatment.

But when he could come around, he was around.

He was helping us.

So he's going to be sorely missed.

Yeah, we love Ryan Fitzpatrick.

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What should we call you? I know that we should call you like when you were on the Vikings,

you were a Viking.

When you were on the Battlehawks, you were a Battlehawk.

Are you a football team?

What do you refer to yourself as?

Well, we'll figure out here in a week.

That's right, yeah.

Yeah.

I actually saw, so not to brag, Michael Wilbon name drop.

I text back and forth with Jason Wright sometimes,

and he told me that the name is going to be Red Hogs. That would be kind of cool.
Red Hogs would be cool. Have you heard that? I haven't.
I've heard of one other that I'm pretty positive it is. That was a test because he actually didn't tell me that.
So you've eliminated Red Hogs. Not to brag, but I text back and forth with Dan Snyder, and he said it was going to be Red Hawks.
Did you like that? I like that. Oh.
Actually, I text back and forth with Tanya Snyder, who, as you know, is the owner of the team. Dan Snyder's no longer.
He's off doing his own thing. And she said that it was Red Tails.
Yeah, it's Red Tails. That would be cool, too.
Yeah, that would be cool, too. I can tell by the look.
by the look i like red tails hail to the red i will say some of the guys on the team saw the uniforms and they said they're super clean very good looking and um a lot of people are going to be uh pretty pumped about it so the unis are going to be nice wait so some people on the team saw the uniforms they didn't show show you the uniforms? No, I think only like two or three guys. You know, the top franchise guys, you got John Allen, Terry McLaurin, Chase Young.
Those three got to see it all, and they got to know the name and had some input on it. But, you know, they've been doing a good job of keeping their mouth shut about that at all.
You brought up Terry. I think that Terry McLaurin easily a top 10 receiver in the nfl um some of the catches that he was making this year were just unreal the guy doesn't drop balls it's insane how much easier does he make it you can do the thing where i know you like to point down the field a lot like when you're scrambling around you like to do the point and it's the fuck it terry's down there somewhere and you air it out and you just know he's going to come down with it.
How awesome is it just to throw him footballs? Yeah, you know, he's he's a special talent. And, you know, I wanted to give him the ball more this year.
You know, obviously he's he's he was our best player. But again, you know, defenses are good, too.
And they got game plans. But, you know, it's cool when you get the ball in his hands and to see what he can do with it it it's really special you can throw him a five yard stick route and he can make it into a 40 yard game so you know when you got a guy like that you try to give him the ball as much as possible and let him do his thing you always hear about like top tier receivers like that always thinking that they're open always demanding the ball but Terry his personality he feels like he's more laid back but I know.
You know him a lot better than I do. Does he have that mode that he gets into where he's ultra competitive and he's like, give me the ball every play? He's a very competitive guy, but he's never going to say that.
And, you know, his character is huge. You know, let's be real.
You know, receivers and DBs are usually the divas of the team, right? You know, know they they want the ball they want attention stuff like that but terry is not like that at all and it's huge for us because he's our best player so when you have your best player like that it just trickles down to everybody and no one else can can be like that so um he's a great leader for us he's a great player and again hopefully he just keeps doing his thing uh i had one last question and this one kind of sucks but i'm always curious about this uh the game against the cowboys what gets said in the locker room after that is it just like well that sucked like what do you even i mean that sucks yeah um there's not much to say after games like that um you know the biggest thing that that we had to realize is, you know, that's kind of like life. You know, things are going well.
It's a roller coaster. And next, you know, you get punched in the mouth and things aren't working well for you.
You just got to keep getting up and fighting. And, you know, for us, you know, we got our asses whooped by them twice this year.
But we didn't let that affect the next game, which I think is the biggest thing. So, you know, we kind of just try to rub it off as quickly as possible and go on to the next opponent.
I think that's where I would fail as a teammate because I would definitely try to make a joke right after the game and people would be like, what the hell, dude? Like, I wouldn't play. I'd be on the bench, and then I'd just be like, man, we were so close.
One play away or something like that.

And everyone's like, are you serious, dude?

Yeah, you know, the thing that helped us kind of cope over it pretty quickly

was those Dallas equipment guys that were helping, you know,

get all the jerseys and stuff situated, they knew where the beer was.

So they were handing out six packs of beer to people.

So, you know, we weren't too mad after the game.

That's smart. I mean, a part of me almost thinks like if you're going to get beat, you might as well get your ass kicked because you can burn the film and be like, listen, there's really not a lot that we can learn from this.
Whereas if you lose, you know, in a heartbreaking fashion on the last play, that tends to linger. That tends to stick around a little bit longer.
Absolutely. Yeah, you hit it on the head right there.
You know, when you have a game like that, you kind of come in on a Monday and you're just like, there's no reason to watch this film. We just got our asses whooped.
Let's just move on and forget about it. So, and I think we did that.
You know, we went out to Philly and we almost beat them at home. And unfortunately, we didn't.
But, you know, I'm proud of the guys. They did a good job handling all that stuff.
Yeah, I had one last question actually. I think PFT has one after me, but are you still tight with the old Dominion football program? I am.
The head coach and the coaching staff, when I was there, isn't there anymore. That's a new guy.
But I've met him a couple times, went to dinner, had a couple drinks with him. He's a young, very energized guy.
Hell, his first year playing, they went 6-6 and went to a bowl game. So it's huge for them.
The future looks bright. So about that bowl game real quick, what happened with that guy who just let up and got the ball knocked out of his hand going into the end zone? You know the play.
You know the play against Tulsa. I had Old Dominion plus eight.
It was 23-10 or something, and they get a perfect pass. He's running into the end zone.
He just lets up with, like, three yards left. Boom, stripped, touchback, game over.
I did not see that. Well, tighten it up.
That's all. I'm never going to get to talk to anyone else who's Old dominion so i want you to send that message to fundamentals you know i got you that that one's gonna stick with me like when people say unfortunately for you like gambler's brains like taylor heineke will not be the first thought of old dominion it'll be that play for people so was that part of a parlay was it straight up straight up i loved them they had a a great year.
They started really bad, right? And they were really good down the stretch. I thought they were going to – they were playing Tulsa, like those type of teams, always Old Dominion being in a bowl game, super exciting.
I love them. I love their style and everything.
And then they totally let me down. So fire that coach.
One and six to start. We're five straight.
So I thought, yeah, I was feeling good about him too.

Yeah.

My last question is I know that you're a fan of bussing with the boys,

Will Compton, our co-worker.

Do you think it was a coincidence that the Raiders waited to sign Will Compton

until after you went there to kick their ass?

Yeah.

Not a big fan of his.

And, you know, it would have been cool if he was on the team, so I got to meet him. I'm trying to get on that bus and talk to those guys.
We'll get you on the bus. Just a tip, when you go on the bus, maybe wear a mesh jersey or something because they do not have any air conditioning.
They try to sweat you out. They try to kill you on that bus.
That's what it looks like on their Instagram clips. guys are sweating bullets out there every time it's like a sauna on that thing it's crazy and how long are those shows you should go for they had me trapped in there for like two hours oh my god yeah he i think he was trying to kill me for real we might just uh go jolly and and take the shirt off yeah no it's like a sweat lodge in there.
Taylor Luan just lights a bonfire in the middle

and starts burning incense.

He just waits you out. He knows that he can last longer.

Now that we're done recording, we actually stopped the tape.

What's the name going to be?

I can't tell y'all. You guys are

gamblers, man.

I'm not going to say anything. I just want to know.

I want to know.

I don't want to find out in Good Morning America. I'll give you a hint, and you guys can go from there.
Start to the C. Oh, it's the commanders.
That would be awesome if they just went to Chiefs and they just used the same Indian logo. Or they go back.
Like, after a long discussion, we're going back to the residents. They're like, what? We changed the name.

This is what you wanted.

Wait, last question.

This doesn't even have to be in, but did Tom Brady ever learn your name?

I don't think so, man.

Because you were on the practice squad, right, for a little bit?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I got there my first day there.

I was like, I'm going to be the first one in the facility.

I'm going to make a good impression.

I come in at like 515, go in the quarterback room, and he's up there with his feet up watching film already like jeez how early does he get there that's perfect i mean his feet up with the coffee in hand at 5 15 i'm guessing he was there at 4 45 jesus what a psycho that's insane i feel like there's like limited returns to getting there that early like what how much film can one man watch if he goes to sleep as early as he does. I feel like there's limited returns to getting there that early.
How much film

can one man watch? If he goes to sleep

as early as he does, I feel like that's

just a different world. Imagine

going to sleep at 7.30pm.

That's what he does.

His

whole diet deal is crazy, man.

He was drinking all types

of shakes and all types of shit. It was

pretty impressive to watch. I guess it's worked for him.

Yeah, a little bit.

Taylor, thank you so much. Everyone go follow

I'll see you so much. Everyone go follow Taylor on Instagram.
We appreciate it, man. Best of luck.
What's the team name? The Washington Commanders. That's what I'm guessing from this.
Or the Chiefs. Is that with an O or a U? That would be cool, too, if they did the Chiefs, and then it's like we got confused.
Yeah. The Cumberlanders.
Actually, when he did the study on whether or not the name should be changed, he commissioned a big study, Dan Snyder did. It would have been very funny if the result of the study was Redskins is not offensive, it turns out.
Or the Washington Cherokees. Yeah.
And it's just like, we're just going for it. Yeah.
All right, well, good luck.

I'm hoping you stick around.

I'm rooting for you.

You were the most fun quarterback to watch for the Washington football team since RG3 back in 2012.

So I hope you stick around.

Huge compliment.

Big compliment.

Just don't look at who played between them.

Yeah, don't at all.

Because then the compliment kind of loses its shine.

Kirk Cousins was electric for a long time. Yes.
You're the exact opposite of Kirk Cousins, which is the highest compliment I can pay him at. But yeah, I hope if you don't get a chance to start for Washington next year, I hope you get a chance somewhere else.
And we're rooting for you personally, no matter what. Yes.
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We've got FireFest of the Week. We should probably have start Bubba Bubba's asleep right now He's literally asleep Oh God Okay, no, he's not He's watching the mic thing He doesn't have the input on your audio He just hears us Alright, my mistake, I want to clear the air Bubba was not asleep He was reading the back of his eyelids bubble what's what's your fire fest of the week billy almost broke a cabinet with his chair uh bubble what's your fire fest of the week um my fire fest of the week is just um i forgot to ask sam hubbard uh a certain question you know catching up with him i i wish i just reconnected with him earlier good fire fest it.
It sounds like a rough week for you, Bubba. Can you ask? This is like PFT's down on the sidelines because Bubba doesn't have headphones and he can hear me.
PFT, could you ask him, is he feeling rested? They want to know, Bubba, are you feeling rested? The game never sleeps. No, I don't sleep.
The game never sleeps. The game never sleeps.
You heard it here for us. It just takes cat naps.
All right, thank you, Bubba. Yeah, the game never sleeps unless it's a very important thing that needs to happen.
Then maybe sometimes it sleeps. Hank, your Fire Fest of the week.
My Fire Fest of the week, besides the fact that I don't get to enjoy life on the road like these guys, I just have to get on a measly plane later and probably fall asleep and wake up in San Diego.

So I don't get the thrill of being on the road that these guys do, which sucks.

But my other fire fest is that my building hasn't had hot water in like two weeks.

It has like lukewarm water for like maybe a minute and then it gets cold.

I feel like I'm in like the military and I just can't take take hot showers you know what does have scalding hot water is hotel rooms really hot yeah the shower this morning was almost too hot actually you know what else it has what soup oh he got you we got the soup hank we got the best the best part is you guys are saying this to hank who's going to be in a hotel for like the next two and a half weeks yeah but we are right now yeah that's the difference got his ass but yeah I don't really know what's going on another guy that we work with lives in my building it's the same he's got the same problem it just like got cold and our heart water just shut off you should stop paying rent rent strike I strike. I should.
Yeah. Yeah.
All right, PFT, your fire fest. My fire fest of the week is pretty self-explanatory.
We're about to get into a car right now after all having eaten Skyline Chili for lunch and drive for seven hours. We do need to pick up some Skyline Chili on the road, though.
So I don't know because we're going to be flying I want to bring Some Skyline Chili to

Los Angeles and I want to have

It ready on ice if the Bengals

Win but we're not going to be in LA

We're going to have to fly to

Louisiana on

Super Bowl Sunday so

I don't know if I'm going to be allowed

To fly with Skyline Chili because

I don't know if it's considered a liquid or a solid

I think

You'll be okay from

LA to Louisiana

Do you know? to fly with Skyline Chili because I don't know if it's considered a liquid or a solid. I think you'll be okay from LA to Louisiana because we're flying private.
Oh, okay. Nice.
Okay, great. You did know that.
I had forgotten actually. But the Skyline Chili in the stomachs on the road, that's going to be – it will definitely test the strength of our friendship and of our unit um because so far so good but this is you're really going to get to learn a lot about each other in the next couple hours here fortunately i did stock up on axe body spray not for me but for the car so um hopefully that'll just overpower any sort of the skyline residue what uh what number did you get isn't it isn a numbers place? Yeah, we got a three-way today and a bunch of cones.
And Billy likes Skyline. Skyline is actually fire.
So to be honest, didn't have Skyline from Cincinnati before. I had it from the cans, and I didn't really like it.
Got some fresh Skyline. absolute gas it kind of tastes like mediterranean food literally like the chili gives off like um what's it called hero vibes pft you say that like it's a shock like billy we've seen billy cook we know his palate that's true he just dumps beer on everything.
Like, we've seen this man eat.

We've seen this man cook.

Like, you could give him anything, and he'd be like, it's low-key gas.

If it's free, Billy, like, for everyone at home, when we order food on, like, Sunday nights,

Billy will be like, yo, throw a couple extra, and then he'll walk out with, like, all the leftovers.

Like, Billy, if free food is on the table, Billy, it's gas for Billy. He has a garbage disposal, yeah.
It is very good. Right, right.
That's just my two cents on it. But yeah, that was my fire fest, just being in a truck with a bunch of guys that are slamming chili for lunch.
It's going to be a long day. PFT, you need to get, can you get a few cans for me as well Because I did say I tweeted Maybe during the Raiders game That if the Bengals win the Super Bowl I will bathe in Skyline Chili I need like Probably like three cans I was thinking I'd just get a bath And I'd put the Skyline Chili in the bath And just take a bath with Skyline Chili So can you just get me a few cans yeah for sure i'm gonna stock up because i i'm also i'm planning on chugging a bunch of it maybe doing some beer bongs of skyline chili it's listen i think america's rooting for the cincinnati bangles so we got to get behind that we should note by the way because we do keep saying america's rooting for the cincinnati bangles and i have uh people correcting me america's rooting for the Cincinnati Bengals except whatever have uh people correcting me America's rooting for the Cincinnati Bengals except whatever like a few people in LA all of Detroit and then the AFC North we don't give enough credit like how much all these teams hate each other so like people have said yo I'm a Steelers fan I am not rooting for the Bengals so also the cities of Baltimore Cleveland and Pittsburgh are not rooting for the Bengals, I kind of feel like there's a couple people in St.
Louis rooting for the Rams. A few.
Probably as many people in St. Louis as in all of L.A.
Yeah. Yeah.
Listen, we are the biggest pro St. Louis sports podcast in the world.
And I think I speak for all St. Louisans when I say, go Rams.
We miss youatics saint lunatics is what you're looking shout out nelly proper name yeah all right my fire fest is uh seamless change the color of their app and it's fucked me up really bad so that's it pretty simple oh you just updated it's orange now i yeah i just updated and i keep scrolling past it being like where the fuck is then I get back to it. I'm like, oh, there it is.
It hasn't moved on my phone, but we're all like dumb first graders and you just do the apps off of colors. Yep.
So it should be illegal for an app to change their primary color. I agree.
I don't know if you've experienced this, but when mine changed over, I noticed I got worse at determining my location when I i was ordering food where there was a streak of about three or four days where uh 75 percent of the time i would order food that would go to either my apartment when i was at work or to work when i was at my apartment yeah not i mean yeah it happens it throws you off also think of other brands that have done it instagram had a huge change they used to have the uh brown camera. Let me see.
Oh, yeah, I remember them. Facebook bought them.
Yep, yep, yep. That's a big one.
You just shouldn't be able to do that. You got to keep the same colors.
Also, my fire fest is the ACC refs are fucking bullshit. ACC's rigged.
I'm going to get an investigation. What they did to Louisville on Tuesday night will not stand.
So I stand with Louisville and all the people who are angry about that game. We're going to throw it in the class action lawsuit with Brian Flores.
It's going to be a whole fucking thing. I just like for – it'd be great if we just had like a class action lawsuit just for gamblers that are just – they're just mad that they lost a bet.
Like have you lost a bet that you're mad about in 2021 or 2022 okay join this class action lawsuit there's really no specific thing that we're suing for we're just getting our frustration out antonio brown you're on notice yeah yeah um all right billy you're fire fest then we'll wrap up with jakes so in order to get the precious cargo to precious cargo to Cincinnati in a timely matter, I had to consume a huge amount of Black Rifle coffee. And after getting into Cincinnati at 3 a.m., after making great time, I could not fall asleep until about 5.
And in that time, I wrote a blog, was productive, but now I'm in absolute shambles. I had a great supplement mixture to stay alert during the drive, L-theanine and lion's mane mushroom.
That combined with mass amounts of caffeine in the Black Rifle coffee made me absolutely locked in for the drive. Highly recommend it.
It also turned him into like a junkyard meth head right now. So yeah, you can see what we're starting to deal with today.
I'm eager to read what Billy's blog would have been because he didn't post it. He just got in at 3.30 in the morning after drinking probably like four Black Rifle coffees and doing all these supplements and then drinking two Coors Lights and then just blogged something.
I'm curious to know if it even resembles English because he's like embarrassed to publish it. Honestly, I think my grammar is better than normal on this blog.
All right. Oh, wow.
Yeah. Nice.
And then one funny thing that, oh, sorry, keep going. No, it's totally unrelated.
So when I asked the mayor if he had access to the Harambee death tapes, he looked at me and I realized in that moment that I really live in a totally different world than most of America. Because he was like, he looked at me like, what kind of sick person was to see a gorilla gunned down? Oh, listen, I mean so you shouldn't feel bad about that billy i had the same moment but it was for a different reason uh because we've had like with this brian flores stuff we've had different people releasing statements like john elway just released one steven ross released a statement and memes has forever corrupted my brain because Stephen Ross's statement is with regards to the allegations being made by Brian Flores I'm a man of honor and integrity and cannot let them stand without responding and I'm just waiting for the Cassianos part to get there and it didn't show up and I was like wait what the fuck so um memes has completely broken my brain anytime there's any apology after the second I'm just like, okay, so where's the joke? I don't want to – we kind of glossed over a little bit of the Rooney Rule stuff that's going on with Flores.
But there's – I think Big Cat's right in that it hasn't worked. You can look at the numbers of black head coaches in the NFL, and it hasn't improved since it was put in because there are all these sham interviews but I did actually because we make fun of a lot I wanted to give credit to Bruce Arians for being like a guy that I think we need more of guys who will hire minorities and then proactively be like hey you have to interview this guy you have to give him a shot he's been he's been very good at doing that I think that's really the only ways to just have more people that aren't just like in the old boys club being you know able to be good people yeah yeah advocate for it and yeah it's I mean it is it's one of those rules that in principle seemed good but it's been 20 years now so they have to revisit it and try to figure out a way to actually make it work because it's not um jake your fire fest to wrap us up yes so last week i uh dropped off my suit at the dry cleaners well in the lobby for the dry cleaners to pick up on friday they said to be back saturday saturday the snowstorm happened so i figured they closed monday hadn't heard back from them and it turns out they just never picked it up what so where is where is it? It eventually got picked up.
Oh, okay. That was close.
That was close, boys. There's a very well-dressed thief running around Manhattan.
Yes. Also, a mini-fire fest is I reached out to Urban Meyer for comment on the Sam Hubbard story that I'm starting, and he hasn't responded yet.
Oh. Yeah.
He's probably got his hands full. you're back maybe maybe like call uh call like a columbus area like tgi fridays see if they've seen him working on it yeah like hey is urban there so stay tuned for that next week you should you should honeypot him we should find someone who can go like wherever urban's at like imagine if we just sent like uh an attractive young woman and then he like you know started doing his finger in the butthole thing and then she just like whispered sweetly into his ear hey is it true that you found sam hubbard at moeller high school and he was just a lax player care to comment yeah i like that idea it jake if you want to do it remotely though you should just use one of those face app things where you turn your face into a chick.
Yeah. And you call yourself, I don't know, like Cake Marsh or something like that.
And you just you email him and he can see your avatar and then he'll probably be more likely to respond to you. Yeah.
All right. All these things work.
What are you going to say, Hank? One other quick road trip. Funny, funny anecdote.
I came in the studio today and was looking around and I noticed that the barbell was gone, and I was like, who the fuck would take the barbell out of our studio? That's a crazy move. And then I realized that Billy took the barbell in the truck.
Right. The big ass.
He'll be working out all trip. It's basically bringing your sneakers on the road to work out in the hotel gym on steroids.
He's literally bringing the hotel gym with him. No, Billy's going to actually do it, though.
I have confidence. And he also brought two 45s and two 25-pound plates.
And it's in the truck bed, which, as Billy pointed out, is very good for traction when driving over ice. Yeah, weighs it down.
That's huge. How is it going to get? I i mean there's no way we're gonna see that again the barbell and wait yeah yeah you didn't think about it coming back that that moment that you saw right there on billy's face was the look of a man getting shipped back to that did not think about the return trip no he there's way he thought about it.
He thought that it was just going to magically appear back in the studio. The truck's coming back, but do you know where it's going? They're not going to drop it out on 7th Avenue.
They're just like, hey, the truck's back. I might drive the truck back.
Okay, you should. Yeah, That's what he planned this whole time.
There you go. Yeah.
I welcome that. That's actually a good idea.
That's a good use of your time. That'll be Billy's job.
Put a GoPro. That'll be Billy's job from now on is just driving aimlessly around the country and checking in with us from the road.
Put a GoPro on it and we'll just fucking send you on your way. I actually think that's actually a great idea.
All right, numbers, and then we'll see everyone on Sunday night. We'll be in L.A.
17. Let's go 21.
56. Bubba, is he sleeping? No, Bubba's been awake this entire time.
Want to pick a number? Six. Ten.
Bubba says six. For Dylan.

Steve throwing in.

Steve says four.

68.

He's the biggest loser because.

Oh.

Now.

68.

68.

What?

68.

Yeah.

68.

It's a bad omen.

Silverback gorillas are alpha

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