Bengals DE Sam Hubbard, Tom Brady Retires + Uncle Chaps

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Speaker 12 On today's part in my take, Tom Brady officially retires.

Speaker 13 We have Hank's poem, I think, he's writing.

Speaker 14 Who knows?

Speaker 3 His reaction, all the takes. Adam Schefter was right.

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Speaker 19 And then we have an awesome, awesome interview for you Bengals fans.

Speaker 22 Sam Hubbard, Cincinnati native He is made the big sack on Patrick Mahomes had an incredible year We talked to him about going to the Super Bowl the playoffs Joe Burrow everything

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Speaker 28 Today is Wednesday, February 2nd, and Tom Brady has officially retired.

Speaker 34 Thank you, Tom.

Speaker 34 Tom Brady. Jeff Darlington was right.

Speaker 11 Jeff Darlington was right.

Speaker 1 Adam Schefter was doing.

Speaker 15 You know what?

Speaker 35 P-boy, I got to give him credit.

Speaker 41 He started liking some tweets that were, you know, that were bashing him over the last few days.

Speaker 42 He deserves this. Like, if

Speaker 2 it goes both ways here, we had some fun at his expense.

Speaker 28 We were all hoping that Brady was going to do a spite tour right in his face, but Schefter was right.

Speaker 36 So he gets to dunk it on everyone.

Speaker 35 Well, no, he can't dunk.

Speaker 16 He gets to take a jump shot shot.

Speaker 41 He's not going to even get rim. Yeah, he probably takes a jump shot.

Speaker 34 Schefter torn meniscus.

Speaker 46 Yeah, so

Speaker 47 where do we want to go from here, Hank?

Speaker 8 Let's keep it on Sheffield for a moment. I know.

Speaker 48 First of all, you asked me a question.

Speaker 15 Darius Butler tweeted this. And I'm just curious because you guys are big J's.
You cover the sport. You care about the players.
And I thought Darius Butler made an interesting point.

Speaker 15 He said, everybody's got a job to do. Shefty and Darlington are two of the best at what they do.
I get it. But damn, two of my former teammates slash QBs had their retirements fucked up.

Speaker 15 Not cool in my book. I think guys at least deserve that.
My two cents.

Speaker 34 Okay, so how did Tom Brady have his retirement fucked up?

Speaker 50 He was on

Speaker 50 vacation.

Speaker 8 I think in Hank's mind. You guys have no respect for vacations.
I think

Speaker 34 in Hank's mind, if Schefter and Darlington hadn't reported this on Saturday, Brady would have been more prepared and would have had a glowing long note about how great New England was and his time with the Patriots was.

Speaker 34 But because it was preemptive, he kind of got rushed into it and just forgot about you.

Speaker 15 I think and this could be denial

Speaker 15 i think it's coming like i don't think that

Speaker 15 i think it was always the plan he technically was a buccaneer he's a consummate professional so technically today he retired from the buccaneers he is going to new england he is signing a one-day patriot contract there is going to be a ceremony so has that been reported yes i thought that chapter

Speaker 8 there was one blue check mark we tweeted it but i have no i saw one i saw one an hour ago there was okay it was a fake account no no no no no there was a blue check mark, but I don't know how valid it is.

Speaker 15 Okay, so there was one that said it's happening tomorrow.

Speaker 15 That was fake. But then another one that was like, Tom Brady has talked to you.
He talked to Mr. Kraft.
I assume he's going to sign a Patriot. It didn't say date or anything, but it's happening.

Speaker 38 So for anyone who missed, I don't know how you missed, but not everyone's online all the time.

Speaker 6 But Tom Brady listed,

Speaker 28 it was a notes app of retirement where he first posted a picture.

Speaker 22 Hank, did you see that it was the picture of him in a Bucs uniform against the Patriots?

Speaker 18 Someone noted that.

Speaker 30 I don't know if that was specifically chosen for any reason.

Speaker 8 He doesn't probably run his social media.

Speaker 21 Yeah, he probably doesn't for his retirement.

Speaker 21 And then he posted a bunch, a series of notes thanking the Bucks, the Buccaneers organization, Alex Guerrero, the fans of the Bucks,

Speaker 58 his family,

Speaker 59 his agents.

Speaker 34 He thanked the city of Tampa and, I think, the city of St. Petersburg.

Speaker 13 Yeah, he did. He threw in St.

Speaker 44 Petersburg. So

Speaker 42 and he didn't thank the Patriots or Patriot fans.

Speaker 21 That is the big question coming from his retirement.

Speaker 15 And my initial reaction was like, oh, it's got to be coming. It's got to be coming.
There was a lot of backlash. A lot of Patriots fans were very upset.

Speaker 15 My group texted with my friends from home was firing away.

Speaker 15 And then, like, three hours later, after the backlash, the Patriots put up a statement, and Tom Brady basically,

Speaker 15 it looked like it may have been a, he realized there was a lot of backlash, so he has to say something. So he kind of just quote tooted it with a very like, love you, Patriots Nation.

Speaker 15 It's nothing but love here. But it did come across like

Speaker 15 he maybe wasn't thinking about it.

Speaker 47 Yeah.

Speaker 34 No, it was a quote-toototic.

Speaker 8 Which is not what I think. I think it's,

Speaker 15 that was tough evidence against the contrary.

Speaker 34 So Spin zone, though, would be like, he is so bad at quitting, it makes him even more of a winner. Like, this is a pretty bad retirement.

Speaker 60 Well, Schefter rushed him.

Speaker 47 Schefter. He did rush him.
He rushed his ass.

Speaker 34 He played his.

Speaker 8 Yeah, he fought him.

Speaker 15 Brady made a mistake of partnering up with ESPN because ESPN, as they have in the past,

Speaker 15 they fucked him.

Speaker 15 They had him in this document series, and then they fucking leaked the news before he was ready when he's on vacation on a boat with his family, trying to enjoy his time off, and he can't.

Speaker 8 He's probably.

Speaker 11 I know people are saying, like, it's ridiculous to react that way if you're a Patriots fan, but I do think it's kind of weird that he didn't.

Speaker 19 Like, it was weird seeing his retirement entire list, and it was like, wait, is this just retirement from the Bucs?

Speaker 43 It was a little odd.

Speaker 4 For someone who's very calculated,

Speaker 26 you can't say that it wasn't just a little like, huh, that's weird.

Speaker 15 It was very odd, and this is what I was arguing with my friends about.

Speaker 15 Yes,

Speaker 15 Tom Brady technically owes Patriots fans nothing, but

Speaker 15 you still would like to see it.

Speaker 30 Like, you still...

Speaker 5 A tip of the cap?

Speaker 15 Yeah, tip of the cap. Anything.

Speaker 62 I'm not

Speaker 15 mad at Tom Brady. I'm not going to hold it against him.
But I'd be lying if I said it didn't hurt. I would be lying if I said I was scrolling and I wasn't waiting for, you know, like you said.

Speaker 48 You're like, here comes my slots.

Speaker 15 Yeah. You know, fans like Brady 4.
To the Patriots fans.

Speaker 59 Thank you.

Speaker 15 People that got arrested for me and defended my name when I got suspended by Roger Goodell. And, you know, we're there for 20 years as I was a 23-year-old now.

Speaker 16 Imagine if he thanks Roger Goodell.

Speaker 8 No. Oh, my God.

Speaker 63 Roger Roger Goodell thanked him, which was a little like, okay, dude, cool, Roger.

Speaker 8 He dates your guts.

Speaker 34 Do you think Darlington is, do you think his source was Antonio Brown? Because we know they're very close. Maybe he's got his source ahead of time.

Speaker 34 Like Tom Brady mentioned it, and Antonio Brown's in the next room in his bedroom.

Speaker 1 Darlington has been right about all the Brady stuff.

Speaker 4 He's very close to Brady's

Speaker 42 camp. He was right about

Speaker 49 Brady.

Speaker 34 Let's see if this was a direct shot at Hank.

Speaker 42 He was right about Brady.

Speaker 35 Who are you calling, Jeff? Yeah.

Speaker 55 He was right about Brady going from New England or leaving New England.

Speaker 59 He was on that early.

Speaker 64 Yeah, we could have just called him through the.

Speaker 34 Yo. Hey, Jeff, you're on part of my take right now.
Heads up. I'm not trying to Shannon sharp you.

Speaker 34 Do you think that Tom Brady's retirement and the lack of mentioning of the New England Patriots fans was a direct shot at Hank?

Speaker 65 No, I think that the tribute to Hank is still coming. That's a

Speaker 65 great question.

Speaker 65 That's going to be a highly produced video. I was going to mention that in my previous reporting, but I figured I didn't want to ruin things for Hank.

Speaker 33 Okay. Thank you, Jeff.

Speaker 50 He says thank you very much.

Speaker 15 Pifty is so mad about that answer.

Speaker 34 Yeah, so

Speaker 34 from your conversations with Tom, has he mentioned Hank to you ever?

Speaker 8 I'm not trying to make things about me. He does.

Speaker 65 He talks about him.

Speaker 65 He appreciates him. He loves his continued support and loyalty and hopes that he will take this next ride, whatever that is, with him.
And

Speaker 65 I think I speak for everybody when I say that, not just Tom.

Speaker 34 Okay.

Speaker 34 Thank you, Jeff.

Speaker 34 I appreciate the insight on everything. And congratulations on being right.

Speaker 8 That's always the goal, isn't it? Yep, you got it.

Speaker 34 See you guys. See you, buddy.

Speaker 20 Okay, so Tom Brady thinks about you, Hank.

Speaker 66 Is that enough?

Speaker 15 it was always enough i'm i i again like i said and jeff just confirmed it shadow line shout out to shadow line productions it's coming it's coming it's a video there was still weird that it didn't there was nothing to but he was rushed yeah yeah he was rushed that's true he was rushed there were a lot of allusions to the video like imagine i know it started it is kind of funny how we talked about the uh the last episode of of the last or whatever the fuck it is man in the arena and how that all kind of came to fruition but think about this, and you know, to Darius Butler's point, Adam Schefter absolutely fucked over Andrew Luck, like had the most awkward retirement ceremony of all time.

Speaker 15 That was bad on the field, bad scumbag move.

Speaker 15 Brady on vacation, trying to fucking make money for ESPN and make his last episode about his retirement, which I'm sure there's going to be an unbelievable montage to Patriots fans.

Speaker 15 That was his original plan. Schefter fucking ruined it, and so he had

Speaker 15 to come out and say that. He had to do this.
All right, I'm going to retire from the Bucs, but my plan, I don't know.

Speaker 62 I don't know. I'm counterpoint.

Speaker 15 It's emotional though.

Speaker 23 In defense of P-Boy, he is in a contract year.

Speaker 16 He's got to get the scoops.

Speaker 4 He's in a contract year.

Speaker 34 And he's done so much for ESPN. He's improved his stock not only internally with ESPN, but also externally with other companies.
Yes. So

Speaker 34 there's got to be a sense, though, that you're like,

Speaker 8 Tom Brady beats me. Tom Brady Brady.
Tom Hifty does one.

Speaker 68 You were trying to get me mad.

Speaker 15 You like to shape my narratives.

Speaker 34 I like to rattle your cage a little bit.

Speaker 54 But I don't think Hank's that mad.

Speaker 39 Like, I'm just calling it like I see it.

Speaker 15 I think he, if nothing comes, I'll be furious. But I don't think that's going to happen.

Speaker 34 You have to admit, though, Big Cat, it is funny how Hank has built up in his head there's a giant specially produced montage that he's been working on for years. There might be a Patriots fan.

Speaker 47 Dude, he has his shadow.

Speaker 15 Like, he has, he's got the production company. He's doing a fucking documentary series.

Speaker 8 Why wouldn't it come?

Speaker 15 Like, do you, do you think it's not coming?

Speaker 34 The montage? Yeah.

Speaker 34 This is like the Isaiah Thomas thank you video that never came.

Speaker 15 No, it's not.

Speaker 54 It will come now because, like, it might not have been planned all along, but it's clear people are like, what the hell is going on?

Speaker 8 It had. Okay.
Yeah, maybe. You know what I mean? It is interesting.
Interesting.

Speaker 8 I think it's pointed out along because that's how the whole thing got literally.

Speaker 34 It's the picture of the game against the Patriots.

Speaker 1 Yeah, someone tweeted that.

Speaker 30 I was like, well, that's kind of weird.

Speaker 8 That part was weird. That part is weird.

Speaker 38 The whole thing is a little weird to me.

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 8 I read it and I was like, okay.

Speaker 44 I mean, I guess technically he did retire from the Patriots.

Speaker 44 He said his thank you when he left the Patriots.

Speaker 23 Now he's retiring from football.

Speaker 42 He's retiring from the Bucs, but it did feel like, wait, why wouldn't he at least mention unless there's something big coming, which I actually agree with Hank, there probably is.

Speaker 15 There's definitely an element of denial, and, you know,

Speaker 15 you've got to trust your partner who's been there for you for 20 years and just hope that, you know, what you're seeing isn't the whole story.

Speaker 34 It's like somebody dying and they leave their entire estate to their most recent wife. They're like 20-year-old wife that they married six months ago.

Speaker 51 None of the kids.

Speaker 34 Meanwhile, you're over here.

Speaker 34 You've got grandkids to put through college. Yeah.
And you're like, what am I?

Speaker 34 Did this mean anything?

Speaker 15 That is kind of how it feels.

Speaker 70 What would you say, Billy? I had a wild take.

Speaker 63 Okay.

Speaker 30 Tom Brady. You want to say your other wild take you said off air that was pretty wild?

Speaker 47 I'll get to that.

Speaker 34 Tom Brady retired because he had AIDS?

Speaker 8 No. No, what?

Speaker 37 Tom Brady retired because he bit his lip in the divisional round.

Speaker 72 Just saying.

Speaker 8 No, I'm saying.

Speaker 8 You're actually right.

Speaker 70 That's not what I'm saying.

Speaker 33 He didn't bite his lip. He got bloody lip.
He got bloody lipped.

Speaker 70 But it's like his family sees, that probably, he's a sentimental guy.

Speaker 37 Right, they saw the blood for the first time.

Speaker 70 And then it was kind of like, oh, like.

Speaker 8 That's it. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 52 Anyway,

Speaker 70 Tom Brady unretires, comes back, plays for the Patriots, and that's why he's not thanking the Patriots yet.

Speaker 8 Oh,

Speaker 8 with the Patriots.

Speaker 8 Look spicy.

Speaker 72 He's like, look, this take.

Speaker 8 Yeah,

Speaker 47 this is going to be a one-day contract.

Speaker 8 Yeah, but like a one-year contract.

Speaker 34 This is 3D chess.

Speaker 70 He's using this to go back to the Patriots because the Buccaneers, he doesn't think, can take him to another Super Bowl.

Speaker 8 But the Patriots could.

Speaker 50 Yes, Billy.

Speaker 15 And that's why he was so gracious to the Buccaneers.

Speaker 8 He does this.

Speaker 15 Yes, the Buccaneers can't say anything because they got their own post.

Speaker 1 They were like, look, I said the Glazers were great.

Speaker 74 Yes.

Speaker 8 Exactly.

Speaker 72 This is what happened.

Speaker 34 I could actually see Tom Brady

Speaker 34 coming back, signing a one-day contract. and on his one-day contract, he actually goes and practices.
And then he's like, you know what? I think there's still some juice left in this arm.

Speaker 70 Mentors Mac Jones. Mac Jones takes a back seat.
Then, you know, the saga continues.

Speaker 8 I like it, Billy. It's a good take.

Speaker 72 Yeah, just it,

Speaker 34 it would happen in Gronk's future.

Speaker 70 Totally dependent on all that.

Speaker 15 Gronk's got a house in Foxborough, owns the esports team in Foxborough.

Speaker 37 I imagine Gronk showing up to OTAs and being like, Where's Tom?

Speaker 8 Like, he retired.

Speaker 34 It was a one-day contract. Oh, fuck.

Speaker 8 Gronk.

Speaker 46 They could probably say, like,

Speaker 34 we signed Tom. Gronk, you want to come back to New England? He's like, sure.

Speaker 34 And then he doesn't realize that Tom's not actually going for the season.

Speaker 46 Right.

Speaker 54 It is a weird spot we're in right now, though, because I think Hank doesn't want to get mad, but is ready to maybe get mad.

Speaker 23 And PFT really desperately wants Hank to be mad right now.

Speaker 4 That's a great summation of where we're at.

Speaker 34 I want him to own his emotions, big cat. I don't like the denial.
Hank said several times in this podcast already, like, this might be denial.

Speaker 53 We'll see. Right.

Speaker 47 All the facts have to come out.

Speaker 36 He's standing back and standing by to get mad.

Speaker 76 He is.

Speaker 34 That's what's happening. He's being a very, he's a proud.

Speaker 8 I'm not going to throw away 20 years and six Super Bowls for one Instagram post.

Speaker 15 You know, the punishment doesn't fit the crime.

Speaker 8 Right. But we'll see.

Speaker 34 Now, when Tom does make this inevitable, like, Oscar-worthy montage about New England Patriots fans, and specifically you, isn't it going to feel like he wasn't going to do this until you got so mad at him you pressured him into it?

Speaker 15 Because fucking P-Boy. Yeah, P-Boy.

Speaker 8 This was all going to be in P-Boy. This was all going to be in the episode.

Speaker 15 I think in Tom's head, it was all going to be in the episode. And when the episode dropped, the announcement would all come out.
Yep.

Speaker 4 And P-Boy, P-Boy fucked it up.

Speaker 47 He fucked it all up.

Speaker 25 And he couldn't sit there and pretend to Hem and Hall for two weeks because he was getting bombarded.

Speaker 75 I mean,

Speaker 54 it's weird how it all went down, but he is retired.

Speaker 44 He's greatest of all time.

Speaker 6 I actually had Billy look up.

Speaker 39 I said, Billy, find me all the crazy Tom Brady stats so he can give it to us because I do think he deserves that.

Speaker 11 Like, incredible career. He's going to be the

Speaker 14 spot where everyone compares every quarterback going forward.

Speaker 45 Unfairly, but that is what it will be.

Speaker 15 How about this take? He's like the Bill Russell of football, except he played in the modern era.

Speaker 8 Whoa.

Speaker 15 That's scary. You know, Bill Russell's numbers are like insane.
It's like 10 championships, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But it's like, oh, but, you know, he played so long ago.

Speaker 15 When you look at Brady's numbers compared to his competitors, that's what it is.

Speaker 15 Do you have the

Speaker 13 seven Super Bowls will not...

Speaker 39 I'm going to safely.

Speaker 3 I really do not think that will be touched by a starting quarterback.

Speaker 42 There's only been

Speaker 54 four quarterbacks in the NFL who have three Super Bowls or more.

Speaker 8 Think about that.

Speaker 44 So it's not like it's very, very rare, rare air to just have three or more.

Speaker 20 There's two guys with four, Terry Bradshaw and Joe Montana, and then Tom Brady has seven.

Speaker 15 The stats that take Tom Brady's numbers and then they combine like Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, and then Brady's are still higher, those are the ones that are mind-blowing.

Speaker 70 You know what sucks, though, is that they added the game. So a lot of his like yardage stats, TD stats.

Speaker 34 Those, those I agree.

Speaker 16 Those will be passed because like think about Mahomes when he started.

Speaker 44 The time that Mahomes started, like Brady still played in an NFL that wasn't all passing.

Speaker 56 Like, there was some time there where it wasn't, you know, Peyton Manning was doing it, but not everyone.

Speaker 11 So, I think those stats will probably fall, but seven Super Bowls as a starting quarterback,

Speaker 30 that's really, really hard to do.

Speaker 34 What's also crazy is he did play in those two different eras where they changed the rules

Speaker 34 because of what his Patriots team did

Speaker 34 specifically to Peyton Manning, which ended up benefiting Tom Brady way more than it ever benefited Peyton Manning. Yeah.

Speaker 26 And what was the, I mean, you'll get to to the stats, but the one that's just, what he played, 20 years total?

Speaker 54 Was that it? Or 22?

Speaker 70 He played 49% of his lifetime, and I'll give you the exact.

Speaker 49 But he made the Super Bowl half of his years, right?

Speaker 6 He's like, he's more likely to make a Super Bowl than Steph Curry is 23?

Speaker 70 He made 12.7% of all Super Bowls.

Speaker 8 That's crazy. Well, all Super Bowls.
All Super Bowls. Actually, he might have won.

Speaker 70 Let me get to the stats.

Speaker 8 Okay, let's go. All right.

Speaker 13 I'm excited for these.

Speaker 70 35 playoff wins.

Speaker 8 Shit. Whoa.

Speaker 11 I'm so sorry that we didn't didn't get to the 36, Philly.

Speaker 8 Maybe.

Speaker 8 Lay off with that. No, man.

Speaker 61 That's a great callback, Philly.

Speaker 8 Baby. Baby.

Speaker 48 35 playoffs.

Speaker 8 Stuck on 35 forever.

Speaker 8 Oh, no. Mr.

Speaker 47 35.

Speaker 70 Most passing yards ever. Most passing touchdowns ever.
Most completions ever. Most playoff passing yards ever.
Most playoff passing yards.

Speaker 70 Most playoff passing touchdowns ever. Most playoff completions ever.
Most wins ever. most playoff wins ever, most Super Bowl wins ever, most Super Bowl MVPs ever.

Speaker 6 Hank is Hank's favorite fucking rap ever.

Speaker 34 Keep going.

Speaker 70 Tom Brady has won 12.7% of all Super Bowls in history. So that's one.

Speaker 78 That's crazy.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 11 And he's been.

Speaker 48 Yeah, go ahead. Keep going.
Quick math.

Speaker 16 Quick math. Sorry.
16.8.

Speaker 8 What? Okay.

Speaker 8 He's been to 16.8.

Speaker 8 Is that right? No, that's quick math.

Speaker 33 Oh. Tom Brady's.

Speaker 49 Quick math, 17.2.

Speaker 70 Tom Brady's career gambling stats against the spreads.

Speaker 79 I asked him to put this in.

Speaker 70 He was 211 for 144

Speaker 8 with eight pushes.

Speaker 14 211 to 144.

Speaker 71 That's incredible.

Speaker 34 It's even more incredible that he was the favorite the entire time. Yes.
And he's still a master. Covered spreads.

Speaker 41 Like, that's, I know that most, those stats don't get kept in Canton, but those stats matter.

Speaker 34 There should be a gambling hall of fans.

Speaker 8 Yeah, absolutely. He's in it.

Speaker 34 Teddy Bridgewater.

Speaker 8 Yep.

Speaker 13 Coach O,

Speaker 36 interim Ed.

Speaker 70 Team win total over, like team wins in a season, 16, 3, and 2.

Speaker 8 Whoa, okay.

Speaker 54 So they hit the Vegas odds 16 times out of 11.

Speaker 15 And those were in the prime years. Those were like 12 and a half.

Speaker 8 Right. I don't think they were absurd.

Speaker 34 I don't think it's ever been lower than 10.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 66 Yeah, that's not. Okay.

Speaker 15 Like those pushes were probably like 13 or 14 win seasons.

Speaker 70 If you were to bet $100

Speaker 70 on whatever team he played on winning the conference, you'd be plus $4,050.

Speaker 8 That's nuts.

Speaker 47 Okay.

Speaker 70 If you bet $100 on whatever team he was on winning the NFL title, he would have had $9,550.

Speaker 79 So if you just bet Tom Brady to win the Super Bowl every single year for his entire career.

Speaker 70 If you take out the 2008 ACL year, Tom Brady was a starting quarterback for 20 seasons.

Speaker 70 In those, he had more Super Bowl wins, seven, than seasons that ended before the conference championship round, six.

Speaker 8 What?

Speaker 48 By the way, now that's insane.

Speaker 70 I'll be blogging all of these and giving stats to all the people who gave these stats.

Speaker 3 Say that one again because that one's insane.

Speaker 38 So he had played 20 years and he had seven Super Bowl wins, and there were only six times in his 20 years where his season didn't get to the conference championship.

Speaker 8 Exactly. Wow.

Speaker 70 So

Speaker 70 these are Tom Brady's stats from his 20s.

Speaker 70 He had had 21,000 yards, 147 touchdowns, three Super Bowl championships, and two Super Bowl MVPs.

Speaker 70 In his 20s, that's one Hall of Fame career.

Speaker 70 In his 30s, he had 40,000 yards passing, 309 touchdowns,

Speaker 70 two-time MVP, two-time offensive player of the year, one Super Bowl.

Speaker 70 Championship and one Super Bowl MVP.

Speaker 70 That's another Hall of Fame career.

Speaker 8 Those were his prime years. Yeah.

Speaker 70 In his 40s,

Speaker 79 this is stupid.

Speaker 70 He had 23,000 yards, 168 touchdowns, three Super Bowl championships, two Super Bowl MVPs, and one league MVP.

Speaker 70 That's crazy. Three Hall of Fame careers for every decade.

Speaker 34 I think he's the best winner of all time.

Speaker 34 He's the most winningest winner of all time.

Speaker 60 And

Speaker 1 it really, I know we said this on Monday, but like he beat time.

Speaker 1 He did not fall off off a cliff he it's weird because i think a lot of people knowing that brady kept on saying i'm gonna play forever i'm gonna play forever everyone thought it was gonna be like a super bowl that he walks out on right like he he almost like a peyton manning you know maybe his arms a little shot it's almost perfect how he did go out he went out like

Speaker 14 almost coming back 27 to 3 guns blazing his last touchdown throw was that bomb to mike evans in a year that he had his most yards like you you don't you won't think of an old tom Tom Brady.

Speaker 34 You just don't. We need to track down that ball.
Billy's hot on the case to try to find the ball that Mike Evans gave away illegally.

Speaker 70 We might add. Was Mike Evans an agent of the team that could give away teams?

Speaker 48 Right, but

Speaker 34 that ball is worth a lot of money.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 70 He's thrown touchdowns to 92 different players. Number one, being Gronkowski, which is 102 touchdowns.
Two to Julian Ellman with 41 touchdowns. Ciao Jules.
Three, Randy Moss with 40 touchdowns.

Speaker 70 Welker with 38.

Speaker 70 and Deion Branch with 28.

Speaker 8 Okay.

Speaker 70 And

Speaker 34 also a couple to Woodhead. Happy birthday, Danny Woodhead.
We forgot about Danny's birthday.

Speaker 8 Birthday week.

Speaker 18 Anything else?

Speaker 8 Yeah, we all have more. Oh, okay.

Speaker 70 In the 20 seasons he started,

Speaker 70 not including his ACL season, he played in 10 Super Bowls. So there was a 50% chance that he was going to the Super Bowl

Speaker 70 in his career.

Speaker 64 Nuts.

Speaker 70 Brady's teams made the playoffs in 19 of his 20 seasons, and he's won the division 18 times. So, real question: what happened in 2002?

Speaker 16 So, that was the year they didn't go to the playoffs, but he wasn't injured.

Speaker 11 Yeah, after they won their Super Bowl.

Speaker 14 So, there were three out of four, they won three out of four Super Bowls, and that was the year they didn't win it.

Speaker 15 And it was like their first Super Bowl was kind of a defense. He was more of a, you know, he was still coming into his own.

Speaker 70 He was nine and seven that year.

Speaker 34 So, let down year. Not that bad.

Speaker 70 So, do you want to hear

Speaker 70 how many wins he had in each each season he started? Please. 0-1, he had 11 wins.
Nice. 0-2, he had 9 wins.

Speaker 70 0-3, he had 14 wins. 0-4, 14 wins.
0-5, 10 wins. 0-6, 12 wins.
0-7, 16 wins. 0-9, 10 wins.
10, 14 wins.

Speaker 34 Okay, I'm going to stop it right here. I feel like that's enough.
That was like not halfway there.

Speaker 73 13,

Speaker 72 13 wins and 11.

Speaker 70 And then 12 wins till 15 every year.

Speaker 34 This is a Mike Mike Francesa segment.

Speaker 70 11 wins in 16, 13 and 17, 11 and 18, 12 and 19, 11 and 20, then 13 and 21.

Speaker 15 Should we do how many playoff wins he got in each of those years?

Speaker 8 Hey, do you have a poem for him?

Speaker 34 You said that you were going to write Tom Brady a poem.

Speaker 70 Wait, wait, here's more stats.

Speaker 15 I had to get it prepared. I don't.
I'll get it.

Speaker 49 It will coincide with the video that he releases.

Speaker 45 Yeah.

Speaker 8 More stats. Yeah.

Speaker 70 The days between Tom Brady's birth and Tom Brady being drafted were 8,292.

Speaker 70 The days between Tom Brady getting drafted and retiring, 7,961. So if you do the math, he's in the NFL for 49% of his lifetime.

Speaker 73 Basically half of his lifetime.

Speaker 66 Okay. That's nuts.

Speaker 70 There's more.

Speaker 8 Okay.

Speaker 70 In 22 seasons, Brady missed only 15 games due to injury all in 2008.

Speaker 70 And one knee, yes, a one knee injury and a four-game suspension. Those are the only games he lost.
He missed. Yep.

Speaker 70 He was the top two in passing, rushing, receiving yards amongst all NFL players 40 years or older.

Speaker 70 And

Speaker 70 the New England population increased, had huge birth rate increases in every year after a Super Bowl win.

Speaker 82 Okay, bonk.

Speaker 70 He also makes way less than his wife, Giselle. Giselle has almost a net worth of a billion dollars of career earnings.

Speaker 22 So he's a feminist.

Speaker 70 And he makes way less than that.

Speaker 34 She's the girl boss. Love that.

Speaker 70 Number one in NFL career earnings and around 300 million.

Speaker 15 So the biggest sport in America, the best player ever, still doesn't make as much as his wife.

Speaker 8 Love it. Flex.
That's

Speaker 34 a glorified stay at home days. And his wife is like the most beautiful person in the world.
So Tom. Inside and out.
So Tom Brady. Yeah, I was saying inside, but also, yeah, you're right.

Speaker 34 She is a supermodel too. But Tom Brady's saying, like, I, you know what? I have won more than any person will ever win in their life in the most important sport in America.

Speaker 34 And I'm going to walk away from that so that I can hang out with my gorgeous wife, who's a billionaire. Yeah.

Speaker 72 Damn.

Speaker 78 It's crazy.

Speaker 71 All of it's crazy.

Speaker 34 That sentence alone puts you in the hall of fame. Yeah.

Speaker 2 What a career.

Speaker 22 Insane.

Speaker 35 Anything else, Hank?

Speaker 47 Mount Rushmore?

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 23 Greeny. That was such a greeny fucking tweet.

Speaker 34 Tom Brady's on the Mount Rushmore of sports.

Speaker 20 Totally, like, this is my input on Tom Brady.

Speaker 50 Yeah, no shit, greeny.

Speaker 15 I'm very much looking forward to the, like we said, Bill Belichick loves the football history. When he does do these

Speaker 15 retirement notes or whatever, I think the one he gives to Brady will be very, very detailed, very emotional.

Speaker 15 I hope, I hope that it's not this petty beef that the PFTs and media whores of the world are trying to.

Speaker 34 You're talking about Floria there, right?

Speaker 15 Whoever.

Speaker 15 Everyone that's trying to

Speaker 15 separate Tom Brady from the Patriots and make it seem like it's an us versus him thing.

Speaker 23 Including maybe Tom Brady?

Speaker 8 No.

Speaker 59 Well, if he doesn't release the video.

Speaker 8 Right. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 13 And that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 15 If he doesn't release a video, that would mean Belichick's probably not going to release a heartfelt emotional statement, and that would hurt.

Speaker 16 Belichick's just going to give

Speaker 17 a line at the combine.

Speaker 48 But that's the thing. What does Tom Brady mean to you?

Speaker 15 That's what people, but it's like when Belichick, you know, it's like when they ask him about a punter and he fucking talks for 20 minutes.

Speaker 15 Like when he, when it's football history related and he does need to open up, he does open up.

Speaker 8 So, it's like you, you would hope.

Speaker 50 I don't know if he's going to open up, though.

Speaker 34 I think he's.

Speaker 8 Of course, you don't.

Speaker 34 No, I'm saying, knowing Belichick a little bit, I think he's going to say, like, Tom, you were

Speaker 15 the best player I ever coached. No,

Speaker 54 I think what Hank is saying is that Belichick does have moments where, like, even the Bill and Bill 30 for 30 were as Parcels, like, he enjoys talking about the history of the NFL.

Speaker 77 So, like, when Tom Brady is no longer a competitor in the NFL, he will talk about him as like part of the history of the NFL.

Speaker 34 I would just, I would put this whole retirement saga on the Mount Rushmore of

Speaker 8 stupid manufacturers of drama filled media.

Speaker 34 Mount Rushmore of crazy retirements.

Speaker 34 Like the most drama-filled retirements. You have Brett Favre.

Speaker 15 Andrew Luck.

Speaker 48 Andrew Luck.

Speaker 8 Jordan coming back.

Speaker 34 Jordan coming back a couple times. Bud Dwyer at his press conference.

Speaker 34 And Barbara the horse.

Speaker 15 There you go.

Speaker 70 My favorite Tom Brady memory is I was watching, it was a Patriots Colts game and I was at my grandpa's house sitting on the couch and Brady was warming up and my grandpa just pointed at him and said, I think I was like, I think I was like six, five or six, and he just points at Tom Brady and goes, see that guy?

Speaker 70 Super Bowl winner, you know, like good-looking guy, has a super model wife. If you want to be like anybody on this planet and like model your life after anybody, be Tom Brady.

Speaker 15 Until you made it here.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 34 Yeah, that is. Yeah.
What would Tom Brady do? He'd want to hang out with Hank.

Speaker 50 That's what Billy said.

Speaker 48 There we go.

Speaker 20 Yeah, Jeff Darlington told us that. He reported it first on this podcast.

Speaker 27 Okay.

Speaker 6 Anything else before we get to Hot Seat, Cool Throne?

Speaker 34 We've got, I think, a couple coaching carousel things. Yep.

Speaker 34 The Vegas Raiders hired Josh McDaniels. Yep.
So

Speaker 34 I remember when he came back from Indianapolis, Belichick, he was like, I'm going to open up my world to you and teach you all the things that I haven't taught you before.

Speaker 34 So I think this time it's with Coach's blessing, right? Yes. He sent him out there and he said, okay, go, go West, young man.
So I think it's a good hire, right?

Speaker 34 I feel like if you want a guy that's going to get the most out of Derek Carr, McDaniels makes sense.

Speaker 59 Yeah. And

Speaker 77 I mean,

Speaker 25 he was making, I heard he was making $4 million as a coordinator for the Patriots, which is pretty crazy.

Speaker 30 But obviously, McDaniels, like, he's got an ego, not in a bad way.

Speaker 55 I'm just saying he wants to run the show again.

Speaker 16 Mark Davis, his haircut just gets funnier and funnier.

Speaker 76 I saw that press conference.

Speaker 23 How does he go out in public in this?

Speaker 49 But he just keeps on doing it.

Speaker 81 He keeps running the same play.

Speaker 24 Makes me laugh every single time.

Speaker 50 I think it's kind of swaggy.

Speaker 34 I like his haircut because it's different.

Speaker 46 It is different. It's different.

Speaker 34 No one will ever copy Mark Davis's haircut. Nobody will mistake.

Speaker 34 Nobody's going to walk down the street and somebody will go up to him and be like, hey, are you Mark Davis and be wrong about it?

Speaker 20 No, you see him coming.

Speaker 4 We also had Brian Dable get out of his truck with his suit and everyone made a big deal about that.

Speaker 34 I love the truck videos. I love the like let's get to work videos where people just drive into a parking lot and then they walk into a building.

Speaker 37 Yeah, and I imagine like the little time we spent with Brian Dable and like what I know of the guy, I bet you he like came to work in his sweatsuit and then there and then the social media intern was like, coach, can you actually put on your suit and go around the block real quick and we got to videotape this so that everyone knows that we're serious about getting to work.

Speaker 23 And then there was a helmet controversy, right?

Speaker 71 I didn't even follow that.

Speaker 34 Oh, I didn't follow that.

Speaker 22 He had like Mike Glennon's helmet or something. It was very

Speaker 23 Stephen Che was saying it was lack of attention to detail.

Speaker 79 It's like, yeah.

Speaker 34 Yeah, that doesn't have anything to do with playing football stevens.

Speaker 14 Right. And also, like, you're hiring a new coach.

Speaker 26 That means that your franchise probably isn't that great right now.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 34 Also, like, you got to give new coaches a little bit of a leash when it comes to knowing your team's operations and their traditions. Right.
Like, there's a learning curve to that.

Speaker 34 I remember when the football team hired Jim Zorn and he said, your colors are maroon and black. He just needed a couple years to figure it out and it'll all be fine.
Right.

Speaker 34 But the whole, I think the social media teams like got together this offseason because you know they talk.

Speaker 34 They have little conferences where they share best practices and they're like, you know what's going to be hot in 2022? Driving to work videos. Yeah.
Guys showing up early.

Speaker 34 Guys getting out of their truck and then walking through a door. That's going to do numbies.

Speaker 64 It's just confidence.

Speaker 41 You know, it gives the fan base confidence being like, you know what?

Speaker 54 Before the sun even rises, they're at work.

Speaker 34 I do like Dable, though. I think he's a good hire.

Speaker 23 Yeah, no, I like him too.

Speaker 29 I mean, when we had him on the show, it was awesome.

Speaker 27 So, hopefully, he'll come back on.

Speaker 8 Anything else? Any other hires?

Speaker 34 Oh, the Jaguars hired Byron Leftwich like three days ago. We talked to chaps about that.

Speaker 6 The Texans are interviewing.

Speaker 81 They interviewed Flores and Josh McCowan, I saw it too.

Speaker 34 They're going to hire McCallan, I think. Yeah.
Florio was all over that a couple years or a year ago.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 34 McCallan, I think, is going to be a head coach there. And then the Saints, I think, are looking at just promoting Dennis Allen, right? They're going to interview some other people.

Speaker 40 That's, by the way, because now that Brady's retired, I think we as a group should do a group bet on one more year, Matt Ryan, Atlanta Falcons winning the South.

Speaker 78 Because

Speaker 37 that's a disaster of a division now.

Speaker 8 With like Matt Rule, what are they going to do at quarterback?

Speaker 12 You don't have Sean Payton anymore.

Speaker 30 What are they going to do at quarterback?

Speaker 37 You got the Bucs who I feel like if they can't get someone in place right now, like if they can get Aaron Rodgers, Rodgers obviously they put it back together but there's a lot of guys that I feel like we're gonna take less money to try to win a Super Bowl which that might that might like unravel pretty quickly what if it was Jimmy G Jimmy G to the

Speaker 8 Bucks

Speaker 22 I don't know Falcons man

Speaker 34 what about isn't Jameis still under contract in New Orleans I don't know what his contract situation is he also he when did he tear his ACL it was uh October I think he might be a little that might be a little funky for him you think he's a slow healer?

Speaker 34 I've seen his training videos.

Speaker 8 I don't know.

Speaker 34 They're going to have like a dog hanging off, like lock on with its jaws to his knee, and he's going to be running wind sprints in it. Yeah.

Speaker 34 He'll be ready in like two weeks.

Speaker 29 Jameis Winston signed a one-year contract with the Saints, so he is a free agent.

Speaker 47 Ooh.

Speaker 79 So he can go anywhere he wants.

Speaker 38 But right now it says on spot right.

Speaker 16 Yeah, no, I think he's a free agent.

Speaker 56 So someone go get Jameis.

Speaker 46 Someone go get Jameis.

Speaker 83 Jameis is.

Speaker 44 Jameis holds the keys to

Speaker 55 funny quarterback play, so we need Jameis.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 34 The Washington football team is announcing its new name this morning. Yep.
We're just going to operate under the assumption that it's the Commanders. Yep.
I think.

Speaker 34 And here's my entire thoughts on the Washington Commanders. If you win games, people will be fine with it.
Yep. It's a perfectly boring name.

Speaker 34 It's almost like a perfect name for a new NFL franchise if you were starting a brand new one, where it's like just so bland that you almost forget about it after you hear it.

Speaker 34 So, you know, people are going to hate because it's

Speaker 34 they were going to hate no matter what the name was because the internet's going to have 48 hours where they just roast everything.

Speaker 34 But then if you lose, the name's going to suck. If you win, it's a fine name.

Speaker 79 Yeah, no, I was just going to add that it's just deal with the 24 hours and everyone roasts it and then no one will remember anymore.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 76 So who cares?

Speaker 1 Like this, what are the what are the Indians now, the Spiders?

Speaker 43 Guardians.

Speaker 59 Guardians.

Speaker 8 Okay, so I already forgot.

Speaker 34 Yeah, see, Guardians and Commanders, they're kind of, they're very similar.

Speaker 59 And you forget. And then it's just like it.

Speaker 34 And it's like, oh, oh, man, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 84 When you're hungry out there, you start acting like a rookie quarterback in his first game, making bad decisions, messing up the basics, being all out of sorts. That's where Snickers comes in, man.

Speaker 84 That thing is packed. Roasted peanuts, nugget, caramel, milk, chocolate.
It's like the MVP of candy bars.

Speaker 84 And when you bite into it, boom, it sorts you out, gets your head back in the game of life, satisfying your hunger. Remember this: Snickers handles your hunger so you can handle everything else.

Speaker 84 Snickers satisfies, man.

Speaker 80 That's a winning play.

Speaker 15 My hot seat is the MLB.

Speaker 8 Uh-oh.

Speaker 15 The MLB and the Major League Baseball Players Association made little progress in their latest meeting, and a delay to the upcoming season feels inevitable.

Speaker 23 Frank's gonna be mad.

Speaker 15 That was reported at 3:40 today, not too long ago. All-time stock graphic.
Jake pointed this out on Twitter.

Speaker 15 The photo that accompanied it was a baseball with a chain and lock on it and a baseball on top.

Speaker 8 So it's

Speaker 15 an all-time stock photo for announcement.

Speaker 34 I love that.

Speaker 5 Yeah, you know what?

Speaker 34 I don't make it a practice to care about baseball until like three days before opening day.

Speaker 73 I just hope that.

Speaker 8 It's not come till July.

Speaker 34 I hope that they just figure it out silently. Like, figured out baseball.
This is one sport that really can't afford to lose any fans that are out there.

Speaker 73 Yeah.

Speaker 11 Just

Speaker 3 fucking figure it out.

Speaker 13 We don't.

Speaker 3 Like, don't tell us how it gets done.

Speaker 45 Just get it done.

Speaker 8 You know?

Speaker 61 Because PFT's right.

Speaker 42 Like, if

Speaker 15 April,

Speaker 13 if April comes around on the player's side, if April comes around,

Speaker 4 it's like, hey, where's baseball?

Speaker 69 We're going to be pissed.

Speaker 42 And we aren't going to be pissed before that.

Speaker 5 No. So you got to do it now.

Speaker 34 Like, I'm not going to care that pitchers and catchers haven't reported. Although, actually, no,

Speaker 34 I'm going to care a little bit right after the Super Bowl when it's usually that one day that comes like two months before anybody sees it coming when it's like pitchers and catchers report today.

Speaker 34 And you're like, wait, there's snow on the ground outside. I like that one day.
Yeah.

Speaker 34 I'll be willing to sacrifice that one day as long as it's just there in April. If there's April baseball, I'm fine with it.

Speaker 15 But yeah, I really

Speaker 34 couldn't bring myself to care less about what they're actually negotiating because it's so complicated that I don't understand. Just pay the players a little bit more.
There you go. End of story.
Yep.

Speaker 34 Boom.

Speaker 15 Yep. Speaking of things I couldn't care less about, my cool throne is me and my stubbornness for the past two or three weeks.

Speaker 15 My group text with all my family members and a lot of my Twitter feed has been hijacked by this stupid fucking Wordle game. Never played it, didn't give in.

Speaker 15 I was like, I don't like words, I don't like to read, I'm not getting involved.

Speaker 15 They got bought by the New York Times, and now people are mad. They're like, you know, it's been ruined, jumped a shark, but we bought it.

Speaker 15 So I think, hopefully, this is the beginning of the end, and people stop posting those stupid boxes because no one fucking cares about you.

Speaker 8 I love it.

Speaker 34 So we made a pact on this show that we were going to hold out until Wordle went away. Jake?

Speaker 8 I've been playing it.

Speaker 33 I play it. I don't post.

Speaker 8 I think it's very annoying when people post.

Speaker 34 I've been secretly playing.

Speaker 47 I got no problem with people playing it.

Speaker 8 The posting is annoying.

Speaker 15 Text is like, you know, usually it doesn't really pop off unless something's going on. There's a conversation.
Every fucking day, it's like six people with their Wordle score.

Speaker 8 It's like, ugh.

Speaker 34 Yeah, I don't post it because that's weird, but I have been playing it. I actually did some stuff.

Speaker 3 I keep a pact, and I stick to it.

Speaker 34 I read the backstory behind how it was developed, which is kind of cool. The guy made it to impress his wife, who loves word games.
So he just made it as like a fun thing for her.

Speaker 34 Now he sold it and he's a millionaire.

Speaker 34 And then I saw some people getting mad at him for selling this. Like, this guy doesn't owe you anything, okay?

Speaker 34 I understand that you're a longtime fan of his and that he's been very good to you and giving you hours and hours of entertainment, but that doesn't mean that he owes you anything when he decides to make a career move for himself.

Speaker 34 Correct. Just because you're a fan.

Speaker 52 Also, there's now nerdle, which is a math equation.

Speaker 8 I did it for the first time now.

Speaker 34 It was fun. Cut his mic off.

Speaker 49 You'll probably play it, PFT. You'll get us to do a pack.

Speaker 8 It was a good time.

Speaker 33 I was not going to post the squares.

Speaker 34 I don't do math. You guys know that.

Speaker 27 All right.

Speaker 23 Your hot seat, Coulter on PFT.

Speaker 34 My hot seat is thumbs.

Speaker 34 Put thumbs on the hot seat this week. Kenny Pickett had an initial hand measurement that was eight and a quarter inches, which would put him in the zero percentile for NFL quarterbacks.

Speaker 34 All-time small hands, which is why I noticed he didn't answer a question about his hands when he was on part of my take.

Speaker 34 But plot twist, he's actually got an issue with his hand that affects the hand size.

Speaker 34 He's double-jointed, not a drug guy, he's double-jointed in his thumb, so it makes it like he's playing claw grip on the football.

Speaker 68 It's very bizarre.

Speaker 72 You have it, Billy.

Speaker 70 I also have double-jointed thumbs.

Speaker 59 Yeah.

Speaker 20 When you see it, it looks like he's just not stretching his hand out.

Speaker 70 I don't understand. Like, I can pop my thumb out.

Speaker 73 Yeah, like that.

Speaker 49 Yeah,

Speaker 43 his couldn't, like, fully go all the way out.

Speaker 34 It was very weird. It's like he's like this, like making the claw with his thumb.
Yeah. So he's doing exercises and stretches to increase the width of his hand.
I'm sure he'll be fine by draft day.

Speaker 34 We still are a Kenny Pickett podcast here. Correct.
If he needs any, Billy will come and straighten your...

Speaker 34 As a fellow quarterback with double-jointed thumbs, Billy will take care of your thumbs, Kenny Pickett.

Speaker 70 I have a question about Kenny Pickett and the glove thing. So my one thing about the glove thing is that when you get new gloves, they're stickier.
Yeah. And they get less sticky over time.

Speaker 70 So is he for consistency?

Speaker 72 I think he is.

Speaker 70 Is he showing up with new gloves at every game?

Speaker 23 I think he's changing them.

Speaker 36 Like, routinely, maybe not new every game, but I think he routinely changes them.

Speaker 59 Because I've seen them, they look fresh.

Speaker 8 They don't look worn in gloves. Yeah.

Speaker 70 Because that's my only thing about it's grip. The reason people like big hands for the ball is grip.
Right. And the gloves help with grip, but then it's consistency with throwing with gloves.
Right.

Speaker 70 If it gets slicker over time.

Speaker 8 Next time we have them on, we'll ask him.

Speaker 34 Breaking Muse.

Speaker 8 Breaking Moose.

Speaker 34 Hank just sent this in the PMT group chat here. Brian Flores is suing the NFL and the Giants, alleging racism and hiring includes private text from Belichick.

Speaker 34 He also says that Stephen Ross, the owner of the Miami Dolphins, offered to pay him $100,000 for every loss during the 2019 season to help the team get a better draft spot.

Speaker 34 Ross was pissed when he kept winning.

Speaker 34 If this is true,

Speaker 34 Roger Goodell should probably get Steven Ross out of the league, right? Whoa.

Speaker 11 It also is crazy because what he's saying right now is that the suit includes texts from Bill Belichick that appear to show him congratulating Brian Flores on getting the Giants job, but mistakenly believing he was texting Brian Dable.

Speaker 16 He said that's crazy. Sorry, I fucked this up.

Speaker 37 I double-checked and misread the text.

Speaker 15 I think they're naming Brian Dable. I'm sorry about that.

Speaker 8 Oh,

Speaker 15 and this was

Speaker 15 three days before Flores even had his interview.

Speaker 8 Bill. So Belchek was, oh man,

Speaker 15 that's as bad as that.

Speaker 23 But also, that's definitely Belichick's just doing that to

Speaker 8 fuck the Giants.

Speaker 34 Yeah, that's actually very small.

Speaker 8 That's absolutely what he said.

Speaker 34 And he's saving his friend, Brian Flores, from taking an interview that he wasn't going to get the job for. Yeah.

Speaker 35 Mastermind Belichick movie.

Speaker 23 He just took down the Giants.

Speaker 68 For Brady, probably.

Speaker 8 And the Dolphins.

Speaker 69 You think he did it for Brady? Right, and the Dolphins.

Speaker 46 Yeah, and the Dolphins.

Speaker 71 You think he was like, Brady, I'll do, like, I'm not going to congratulate you publicly, but I will take down the Giants for you privately.

Speaker 8 Makes sense.

Speaker 70 This would allude to Brady going back to the Patriots.

Speaker 71 Yeah, it would.

Speaker 8 Yeah. Yes, it would.

Speaker 34 Or maybe Belichick found out that Brady wanted to play for the Dolphins because he wanted to go to Florida. I think he wanted to go to the Dolphins initially, but they said, we're going to start Tua.

Speaker 34 Yeah, that's the guy that he said, like, you're going to keep that motherfucker over me, was Tua. Maybe Brady's trying to go to the Dolphins now.

Speaker 44 Belichick just dropped a nuke on the entire franchise do you think Brady was just trying to establish residency in Florida for tax reasons yes this is crazy that Stephen Ross like if this is true that he was offered to pay Flora's a hundred thousand dollars for every loss during 2019 that's wild kick him off the tour wow okay

Speaker 64 find another Really rich white guy to take the team over in Miami.

Speaker 34 Yeah.

Speaker 27 Good luck.

Speaker 8 All right, your cool throne.

Speaker 34 My cool throne is the Chinese Zodiac because it's the lunar new year today. Happy New Year.
Gorshi Fat Sai to all those who celebrate. Big fireworks day.

Speaker 34 Huge fireworks day.

Speaker 34 And also, it's the year of the tiger.

Speaker 34 The Bengals are tigers. Yep.
Just something to think about. It's true.
It's the year of the tiger.

Speaker 76 Big cat.

Speaker 20 Might be my year, too.

Speaker 71 Might be Tiger Woods. This year, yep.

Speaker 40 All these things are true.

Speaker 70 My animal's the tiger from when I was born.

Speaker 8 That's sick. Yeah, that's pretty sick.

Speaker 15 Dude, Beljack fucked this up so

Speaker 30 bad.

Speaker 85 So bad.

Speaker 34 That's got to be an all-time oh shit moment.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I love that title. I love it.

Speaker 3 That's so awesome.

Speaker 54 All right, my hot seat is NFL regged.

Speaker 23 I saw this posted on Twitter, but it was from the official fan page of Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 44 It said, KC fans need to understand something.

Speaker 56 NFL football is a sport or a business.

Speaker 28 It's a business first and a sport second.

Speaker 1 What team has the most bills to pay?

Speaker 20 SoFi Stadium.

Speaker 24 It's a multi-billion dollar complex in one of the largest markets in the U.S.

Speaker 44 Rams need a Super Bowl appearance and victory to sell all those luxury suites and tickets.

Speaker 26 LA was going to get their Super Bowl.

Speaker 42 The victory was never going to be against Andy Reid and Mahomes.

Speaker 44 Way too dangerous and very hard to control.

Speaker 6 Cincinnati had a great up-and-coming quarterback, decent defense, great receivers, and a suspect offensive line.

Speaker 28 Best candidate for a Rams victory.

Speaker 6 The NFL Goodell could not afford to have Mahomes and the boys ruin the SoFi party. Casey made it perfectly clear in the first half, totally dominating the Bengals.

Speaker 6 Totally different Mahomes played the second half.

Speaker 23 Pretty sure directive came in at halftime from above.

Speaker 2 Business or sport.

Speaker 23 It's an entertainment business, and it showed big time in Kansas City.

Speaker 76 There you go.

Speaker 34 I like that. That's good enough for me.

Speaker 15 The Joe Mixon fumble people are awesome, too.

Speaker 17 Like, they think that we're going to just turn the game back.

Speaker 86 The Mixon fumble, he got hit, right?

Speaker 34 There was contact on the legs, not only after he went down, but also before he went down.

Speaker 1 But maybe by his own player, that's what the whole thing was.

Speaker 34 If your own player lights you up, are you technically down?

Speaker 51 I think, no.

Speaker 30 That's the point.

Speaker 17 And so that's why the Joe Mixon fumble people are.

Speaker 75 It's just very funny, like well after the fact.

Speaker 14 Remember, the Saints fans obviously got screwed, but when we were like four days after the fact, like, they're going to play the Super Bowl, guys.

Speaker 64 Like, we moved on.

Speaker 59 There's nothing we can do about it.

Speaker 6 My cool throne is college basketball because

Speaker 37 Texas Tech tonight is going to be awesome.

Speaker 78 And Chris Beard, what are you going to say?

Speaker 8 I'm assuming you're going to get to it.

Speaker 66 Stoolbench Rob?

Speaker 8 No. Oh.

Speaker 35 Koch Gay?

Speaker 15 Any big wins, you know?

Speaker 8 I mean, Notre Dame's not very good.

Speaker 64 ACC's a dumpster fire. Oh, come on.

Speaker 16 ACC is a fucking

Speaker 6 dude's got a big test tonight.

Speaker 52 Duke was sloppy entering that game.

Speaker 8 Yeah, but ACC's joke right now.

Speaker 55 That Texas Tech video where they had all the fans, they were so mad at Chris Beard.

Speaker 29 Like, screaming, fuck you, like, essentially trying to assault a bus with Chris Beard in it.

Speaker 41 I love it. College sports, psychotic.

Speaker 52 Yeah, I mean, the game will be over by the the time this is out, but it could get ugly tonight.

Speaker 69 Could get ugly tonight.

Speaker 42 There's a prediction.

Speaker 49 They've been camping out.

Speaker 34 What does that look like, Jake? What does getting ugly look like?

Speaker 52 I think if Texas Tech wins, you could see some debris on the floor. Oh, if it's worse.

Speaker 42 Wait, is it?

Speaker 34 Sorry, if Texas wins, Texas wins.

Speaker 8 Yeah, sorry.

Speaker 52 If Texas Tech fans are mad, you're going to see some debris on the floor.

Speaker 52 Very minimum, some bad words.

Speaker 53 Bad words and debris.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 34 Bunch of Tennessee Volunteers fans sneaking into the stadium and throwing stuff on the court.

Speaker 29 Just as Eagles fans.

Speaker 40 All right, Jake, give us your hot seat, Cool Trone.

Speaker 52 My hot seat is NFL Red Zone because it looks like it has some company. NBA revealed Crunch Time on NBA TV last night, similar format.

Speaker 34 Shout out Billy.

Speaker 4 He had a great tweet.

Speaker 78 It should be the paint.

Speaker 76 I don't understand it.

Speaker 8 I like that. Like, what are we doing here?

Speaker 70 Turns out we got it all wrong. The post that was, it made it sound like the NBA named their new

Speaker 8 red zone.

Speaker 70 And then somewhere Crunch Time popped up. I think it was after my tweet.

Speaker 34 But who knows?

Speaker 11 So this is just going to be a channel where we can watch like 10-minute replay reviews?

Speaker 34 I don't know. It's another step towards your spread zone idea.

Speaker 60 Yeah, no, I like it.

Speaker 23 I would tune in.

Speaker 37 It's just funny because NBA games, like the one thing that drives me nuts about watching the NBA is the end of the games is always very tough to watch because they review every play.

Speaker 34 Yeah.

Speaker 34 So if they made a product where they played the exact same game like three hours later, if they rebroadcast the game three hours later and edited out all the reviews from the end of the game, I think a lot of people would choose to watch that as if it were live TV.

Speaker 34 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 52 Didn't you watch an old version of Red Zone during the pandemic?

Speaker 34 We did, I think. I think we did.
We did a lot of stuff during the pandemic that was our brains were just stuck in a cave trying to find sports anywhere we could find it. Yes.

Speaker 24 And your cool throne?

Speaker 52 My cool throne is the Fellow Scoregamiaks.

Speaker 47 Oh, okay.

Speaker 52 Because the wait is over, it is on the Barstill Sports Book for the Super Bowl.

Speaker 47 Whoa!

Speaker 8 Oh, let's go.

Speaker 52 2,500.

Speaker 8 Wow.

Speaker 52 It's happened in three Super Bowls before.

Speaker 48 All three had the Broncos losing.

Speaker 47 So that's the first time. We have to bet.

Speaker 8 We have to bet this. Yeah.

Speaker 34 I'm definitely. What are the odds on it?

Speaker 52 Plus 2,500. And you can bet.
No for minus 10,000. Why would you do that?

Speaker 14 No, you're a fucking loser. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 66 That's crazy. So,

Speaker 8 200 odds to bet.

Speaker 52 Yeah.

Speaker 66 So it should be fun.

Speaker 8 Okay.

Speaker 26 Awesome, Jake. Congratulations.

Speaker 37 I saw your tweet being like, I got a big news coming.

Speaker 76 That's what it was.

Speaker 51 Okay. That is big news.

Speaker 16 That's huge news.

Speaker 20 All right, Billy, your hot seat, cool throne.

Speaker 70 My hot seat is PFT and I. We are going to to be driving through one of the largest storms we've seen snowstorms

Speaker 70 these next couple of days. I'm excited.
Road Warrior mentality. I think in order to get off to a good start, we have to...

Speaker 34 Did you guys hear this? You hear what he's already doing? What? Like, Billy's getting into war mode in a car. Yeah.

Speaker 8 No, we're against snow.

Speaker 34 It's the perfect storm.

Speaker 34 You know what happens in the perfect storm?

Speaker 8 We crash and every storm dies. They die.

Speaker 64 You don't see the end of the movie.

Speaker 70 They get over that wave, right?

Speaker 34 Yeah, but then they die because because of that giant wave.

Speaker 70 Yeah, well, guess what?

Speaker 70 We're not soft like that.

Speaker 70 Yeah, we're going through the storm, and it's going to be sick.

Speaker 34 Where's the storm going to hit us?

Speaker 70 The storm starts tonight, and it's moving eastward from the Rocky Mountains. So we're going to be driving right through it, and we're going to eclipse it probably Wednesday night.

Speaker 34 So Billy's already talking about just skipping the first night and just driving through it and driving all the way to Cincinnati.

Speaker 34 We're pretty much skipping the first okay. So let's.
The first night is, you know what, Scott? I'm going to fall asleep. That's a smart idea.
I'm going to fall asleep. It is a smart idea.

Speaker 34 And I'm going to wake up.

Speaker 34 I'm going to wake up in the morning and Billy's going to have us in a truck or caravan up in Ontario.

Speaker 8 Well,

Speaker 39 the thing is, he's actually not that.

Speaker 44 It's a smart idea by Billy because the alternative plan was you guys were going to go from Pittsburgh to Cincinnati to Memphis with like a four-hour stop in Cincinnati all in one day, which does not add up.

Speaker 70 Just like

Speaker 70 we're not going to make it to the Bass Pro Shop Pyramid in time. I'm saying we gun it first night, not stop Pittsburgh.

Speaker 60 Yeah.

Speaker 70 Just go straight to Cincinnati. I'll drive it.
The East Coast is the hardest block. If we get through that,

Speaker 34 the problem with this is

Speaker 34 the problem is if we just go through the first night, then we're already behind on our sleep after night one.

Speaker 8 You can go to the next one. You can fucking road.

Speaker 8 This is what you wanted. Yeah.

Speaker 8 You know why I wanted a normal four-day road trip where we're driving 10 hours a day. No, no, no, this is normal driving

Speaker 50 hours at a time.

Speaker 70 This is crisis fuel. This is chocolate milk and Red Bulls.

Speaker 8 This is crisis.

Speaker 28 The two worst planners

Speaker 35 podcasts, putting this together.

Speaker 34 I'm actually a great planner. I mapped this entire thing out, but now that it's since

Speaker 48 the concept of time, right?

Speaker 8 Time doesn't really exist.

Speaker 9 But the thing is, we're not going to.

Speaker 34 When have I been late for anything?

Speaker 8 No, that's not what it is.

Speaker 70 It's more like we'll stop here, here, here, and here, and then we'll be here, and then we'll stop here for four hours, and then you add it all up, up and it's like like i added it with billy today and it's like you won't get to the bass pro shop till like two in the morning yeah that's that concept of time in order to have fun like in order to enjoy bass pro shop we gotta go hard to cincinnati the first night you gotta have one hard day of like right yeah long drive i'll stay out of it i'm just saying it's that fun to watch because you know because if we stop if we end up stopping in pittsburgh then we wake up the next thursday morning and i'm down to like wake up at five even though we're gonna probably get to Pittsburgh late at night.

Speaker 70 Like, then we're going to have to drive to Cincinnati. We're going to get there.
It's going to be 10 or 11. Then we do our whole thing.

Speaker 70 Whereas we could just go straight to Cincinnati, roll up probably 3 a.m., get like six hours of sleep, 9 o'clock, do what we got to do in Cincinnati, get on the road by hopefully one or two.

Speaker 70 Then we hit

Speaker 47 this road trip.

Speaker 34 No, all right, here's the problem, Billy.

Speaker 34 The problem is, I don't want to start the entire fucking cross-country road trip with six hours of sleep waking up at 7 o'clock in the morning. It's going to throw off the entire rest of our trip.

Speaker 34 No, it's not. We're not going to have fun at the fast Post Shop Pyramid.
You can sleep. You're not going to be able to eat the big steak that you wanted to.

Speaker 70 I'm going to eat the big-ass steak on six hours of sleep.

Speaker 8 No, you're not. Yes, I am.

Speaker 34 You need your rest.

Speaker 70 You don't need.

Speaker 34 So look, does anybody in Cincinnati have any meth to sell us?

Speaker 8 What the memories you make along the way?

Speaker 8 Time doesn't matter.

Speaker 70 We're going to go hard. If I will do the driving, I will pick you up where we're going and drive straight to Cincinnati that first night.
You can sleep in the reclined front seat.

Speaker 34 I'm not going to allow myself to fall asleep because I'll be like, Billy will kill us all.

Speaker 16 You guys have figured this out.

Speaker 8 No, it's going to be.

Speaker 34 Yeah, it will be.

Speaker 70 And the thing is, if we're late the first day, second day, we're not going to do anything fun. We're going to get to Bass Pro shop way too late.

Speaker 70 We're not going to be able to eat the barbecue there and sit on the top of the pyramid and look at Memphis and all its glory. That sounds lovely.
And then we're going to be late because then

Speaker 70 all of our time in the cool spots is going to be in the morning, not when we should be dining and, you know, talking about planning out our next trip throughout the, like checking on the weather.

Speaker 34 All right, so my hot seat is me.

Speaker 8 I'd put you on the hot seat.

Speaker 73 Yeah.

Speaker 34 No, you're right. You're right.
This is, I may have been off more than I can chew. This is

Speaker 8 we're Road Warriors.

Speaker 79 I was the one who told Billy that this made no sense, but he has now realized it.

Speaker 20 We sat down this morning.

Speaker 59 I was like, you guys, there's time.

Speaker 71 You guys have like days that should be like 40-hour days, but you're trying to get

Speaker 34 made no sense. No, because I think Billy probably embellished some things that we were going to do during the day.
The only thing.

Speaker 21 No, no, no, no, it was simply like if you woke up in Pittsburgh at 7 a.m.

Speaker 26 and you drove to Cincinnati and then you were in Cincinnati for three or four hours and then

Speaker 34 that's the thing. We're not going to be in Cincinnati for four hours.

Speaker 23 Well, we're going to do the podcast.

Speaker 35 You want to go get eat chili. You want to go see.

Speaker 34 They're just going to buy chili.

Speaker 53 That's you would have been there.

Speaker 8 That's rubbing time.

Speaker 70 There's rollover time between doing all that.

Speaker 20 And then going to Memphis, you would have gotten there at midnight.

Speaker 41 And I was like, that makes no sense.

Speaker 82 Yeah,

Speaker 70 I rather go hard. I want to just get to Bass Pro Shop so we can enjoy it.

Speaker 28 I'm out of it.

Speaker 29 I'm sorry.

Speaker 8 I shouldn't have said anything to you this morning, Billy.

Speaker 71 I'm trying to get you guys to enjoy it, but like that.

Speaker 34 I think

Speaker 70 it's going to be fun. Billy,

Speaker 34 I don't think that we go all the way to Cincinnati night one. I think we split the difference.

Speaker 47 I think, look, I wanted to mention this because

Speaker 8 this is Ariel.

Speaker 34 We're not getting to the storm until the next day.

Speaker 20 Well, you said maybe Wednesday night, right?

Speaker 71 It's probably.

Speaker 70 We might not be able to drive early

Speaker 70 on Thursday because of the storm.

Speaker 9 So

Speaker 9 we're better off going.

Speaker 70 I'm just saying that we got to go pedal to the metal.

Speaker 8 We're a road warrior.

Speaker 34 I need to write a will.

Speaker 70 If you're not ready to be a road warrior, then I don't know.

Speaker 34 I'm going to write a fucking will.

Speaker 8 Dude, we're in a Chevy Silverado.

Speaker 50 It's one of the six.

Speaker 81 Second war mode against the snow.

Speaker 8 You should write

Speaker 24 in an epic snowstorm on the highway.

Speaker 34 I'm probably going to kill Billy.

Speaker 47 No, we're.

Speaker 8 This is

Speaker 70 this is how we got to do it.

Speaker 87 All right.

Speaker 70 All right, what's your cool throne, Billy? My cool throne is

Speaker 15 there is going to be a camera guy that's going to film everything. I've told him to just film.

Speaker 8 Well, it's going to mostly be just

Speaker 8 driving through the streets.

Speaker 9 Okay, we're going to drive.

Speaker 70 I would like to. So Pittsburgh is the place we can stop on the way to Cincinnati.

Speaker 48 So at around like 11 p.m.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 70 11 p.m. We'll be like, are we going or are we not? And I think it's going to be a full send moment.

Speaker 8 Yes, yes.

Speaker 46 Yes, gee. It's going to be a full send moment.

Speaker 3 I should have gone on this road trip with you.

Speaker 54 Yeah, geez.

Speaker 20 I would have driven right through the night.

Speaker 8 Exactly.

Speaker 8 I don't have a problem with that. Road dog.

Speaker 48 It's so easy.

Speaker 9 Road dog. Shout out the road dog.

Speaker 8 Road dogs. Road Billy.
I am.

Speaker 8 I'm

Speaker 34 driving through the night.

Speaker 8 I am. We're not even driving through the night.

Speaker 70 No, not all the way. Just till like 3 a.m.
We get to Cincinnati. Then we crash because we're tired as fuck.
Right.

Speaker 34 Then we sleep six, and it's going to be like a light sleep because we're rather concerned because I was mostly concerned because I had a text from Billy this morning to be like, hey, change of plans.

Speaker 34 I think we should just drive all the way and skip the first night of sleep.

Speaker 34 I didn't know that

Speaker 34 the back channels were happening. There's not back channels.

Speaker 8 There's reasons.

Speaker 8 Yeah, there's back channels. There's not back channels.

Speaker 34 Big cat is submarining this little channel.

Speaker 8 No, it's not. Behind the scenes.
It's not.

Speaker 46 I literally told Billy because I know your brain, PFT.

Speaker 54 Time doesn't exist sometimes with you.

Speaker 38 So like your planning brain isn't reality. And Billy told me the beginning of the trip and I was like, those hours don't add up.

Speaker 77 And then he looked at me and he's like, yeah, you're kind of right.

Speaker 8 I was like, okay.

Speaker 70 And look, it's, I, I did not think about this too much.

Speaker 8 They literally don't add up.

Speaker 34 I think the whole three hours in Cincinnati was, that was overblown.

Speaker 8 We got to take it. But it's got to be three hours.

Speaker 70 And the thing is.

Speaker 49 You're talking about going to like making stops at people's houses to for a skyline.

Speaker 70 The productivity, we're going to have to.

Speaker 64 Even if you stop for one hour in Cincinnati, you won't get to the best pro shop until like 10 p.m.

Speaker 34 We should say, if you're in Cincinnati, we might need a place to record the podcast.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 70 And the thing, like, there's a lot of transactional, frictional time that is going to be wasted, and we'll get much more.

Speaker 70 Like, that four hours, if we stop in Pittsburgh to Cincinnati, there's going to be like that extra 30 minutes waiting for one another. Like, can I get a picture of you?

Speaker 8 Listen, I'll, I'm sorry,

Speaker 69 I shouldn't have been involved.

Speaker 39 I'm oftentimes the realist on this podcast.

Speaker 49 I shouldn't have done that.

Speaker 8 Oh, I am.

Speaker 9 I have to be the realist, so I shouldn't have done that.

Speaker 75 No, but you guys do whatever you want.

Speaker 8 People are probably

Speaker 34 big cats.

Speaker 8 Realist.

Speaker 8 The only one.

Speaker 70 Honestly, we should put a poll out tomorrow morning. So maybe.

Speaker 34 The world needs dreamers, man.

Speaker 8 I know, but the world needs to be aware.

Speaker 61 People will be like, you can't drive 40 hours in a day and a half.

Speaker 8 But the thing is, like, we can't, like, we're not going to be able to enjoy the stops.

Speaker 70 And, like, we don't have any good stops in Pittsburgh, so we shouldn't even stop there.

Speaker 35 I mean, I'm enjoying this.

Speaker 70 Awesome. I want to, like, you know, at the end of like these 12-hour driving days, like, when we go.

Speaker 34 When we stop in Canton, spend the night at the Pearl Football Hall of Fame. Maybe it's night at the museum where the statues talk to each other.

Speaker 70 I don't understand why

Speaker 70 that extra two hours or three, because it's only an extra two or three hours. Think about this, BFT.

Speaker 15 Not to be devil's advocate. No.

Speaker 34 But certainly not.

Speaker 15 Times of the essence, every hour matters when you're on the road. You get to the hotel at 11 because you want to get your 10 hours of beauty sleep.
Beauty sleep.

Speaker 34 I need to wait for a while.

Speaker 15 If you're going to be awake from 11 to 1 o'clock, because that's just like you're naturally awake. You're not going to get to the hotel and pass out.

Speaker 15 Whereas if you drive till 3 or 4 a.m., you will just pass out.

Speaker 8 Those extra two or three hours.

Speaker 34 I'd rather not make it. I'd rather not err on the side of getting to a place where I'm like seconds away from passing out.

Speaker 70 But you're going to be sleeping.

Speaker 8 I'm probably going to be driving because you don't want to be. I don't want to be driving.

Speaker 70 You don't want to drive that late.

Speaker 34 What do you mean I don't want to drive that late?

Speaker 9 What am I 90? You don't want to drive that late. You can't drive on a freeway.

Speaker 34 You just said safe to drive after six.

Speaker 50 You just said, oh, we'll stop for dinner at 4 p.m.

Speaker 70 what's the difference between 11 p.m and 3 a.m

Speaker 70 a massive difference yeah so you don't want to drive that late so you can sleep

Speaker 70 all right i'm looking i'm going to be like

Speaker 70 it's going to be sick okay

Speaker 34 the distance between pittsburgh and cincinnati is about five hours you said it was two to three hours right there right but look at the difference between going straight to cincinnati i you you agree with me that i'm not i wasn't trying to undermine anything i literally just looked at a map which i don't think you had

Speaker 47 no i had i I had looked at a map.

Speaker 34 I was telling Billy this morning that we can stop in like Columbus.

Speaker 69 Because I looked at the map, and that's the only reason I had said anything is because I was like, if you look at the map, looking at the map and being like, this makes no sense.

Speaker 70 But if you look at the difference between the time between here and Cincinnati and here to Pittsburgh to Cincinnati, it is shorter if we go straight to Cincinnati.

Speaker 8 You guys will figure it out.

Speaker 70 The thing is, we didn't really concept. We had a whole different route until Cincinnati 1,

Speaker 34 which we're very grateful for.

Speaker 73 Very glad. Today.

Speaker 34 Very glad. It'll be a nice stop.
But like things planned.

Speaker 70 Look at the distance between here and

Speaker 51 only under an hour.

Speaker 34 No, an hour for the podcast and then 15 minutes to make the two other stops.

Speaker 47 Yeah. And then think about it.

Speaker 8 Watching it on full.

Speaker 70 Honestly, we're not thinking about the time after Skyline.

Speaker 8 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 8 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 34 Honestly, that was what I was thinking. We might have to dipe up after Skyline.

Speaker 70 Because I'm going to be eating a shit ton of Skyline because I'm trying to bulk. for the Amarillo.
I'm training for the big steak in Amarillo.

Speaker 16 Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 16 He's training.

Speaker 34 All right, so from New York to Cincinnati, it's 10 and a half hours. Exactly.
But we're leaving at

Speaker 34 like

Speaker 34 3.34.

Speaker 9 Right.

Speaker 70 So think about that. That's only like 1 a.m.

Speaker 34 All right, fuck it. Let's do it.

Speaker 31 Stacey Night Wine. Full send.
Full send.

Speaker 54 That doesn't really add up.

Speaker 8 Yeah, but full send.

Speaker 8 Full send, big cat.

Speaker 8 Yeah, okay, all right. Full send.

Speaker 54 That's where I, that's exactly what just happened exactly.

Speaker 64 Like, what he's like, he read the time and was like, this is exactly how long it would take.

Speaker 34 It's like, usually road trips takes a little bit longer.

Speaker 70 I think on exactly february 5th we will be landing in amarillo for the 72 ounce steak challenge and that is a year to the day war mode occurred boom all right that's perfect ending of that let's get to sam hubbard uh cool throne uh wada

Speaker 8 what

Speaker 70 world anti-doping administration i had a cool throne okay sorry for what reason because all the bicyclists for the tour de france tested negative for any banned substances oh perfect which means that there's a new substance that they're all using that they can't detect that you are on the hunt for, right?

Speaker 34 Yes, exactly.

Speaker 8 Sick.

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Speaker 69 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest.

Speaker 2 It is Cincinnati Bengal, Cincinnati native, Sam Hubbard, also a vacation goer with our very own Bubba, which is, we'll get to that later.

Speaker 6 Awesome that you could join us, Sam.

Speaker 39 Congratulations on everything.

Speaker 25 You're going to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 34 We got a lot of questions, but I had one question that like I have to ask off the top because I was doing a little like, you know, looking at some different stuff before this interview.

Speaker 17 That game, the AFC championship game, the play that you made on third and goal with Patrick Mahomes going back in the pocket.

Speaker 59 You're the QB spy, and you just like, after about five seconds, you sprint and get him.

Speaker 44 Can you walk us through what goes through your mind when your responsibility is QB spy and you're like, all right, fuck it.

Speaker 28 Now I'm going.

Speaker 59 Now I'm going full send.

Speaker 88 Yeah, I know. Thanks for having me on.
I'm a big fan of the pod. But yeah, that whole drive was crazy.
I mean,

Speaker 88 you know, there are situations where you like, at one point, would maybe think that scoring is a good idea, red carpet situation, get Joe the ball back, but never went through our head to let him score.

Speaker 88 I was always keep him out of the end zone, take it to overtime. We knew Joe was going to make it.
So we were just bowing up,

Speaker 88 you know, down the five-yard line, first and I think it was first and five on the first and goal and

Speaker 88 yeah I was just sitting back in there he was running around for his life like a chicken with his head cut off I was finally just like all right my job is to spy him as soon as the play break down I'm gonna go run him down

Speaker 8 It was crazy

Speaker 34 I saw the way that you approached him because he'd been doing those slow spin moves all game long. You know, he'd have a couple plays where he pulled two or three of those off in the same play.

Speaker 34 And I saw you kind of break down before you got to him, like maybe even a little bit early. Is that something you were thinking about?

Speaker 34 Like I know that he will do the slow man spin move and somehow get away from me.

Speaker 88 No, I was completely acting on instinct. I think I went back to my high school safety days, just open field football, tracking the hip.

Speaker 88 I don't even know how I got the ball out. I just kind of reached my arm out and tackled him.
It was like a... hit him straight in the ball, but it was like a clothesline.

Speaker 25 It's really an incredible play because, you know, if you watch it from a wider angle and you see like you're sitting there, you're waiting, you know what your responsibility is.

Speaker 17 And then when you like, fuck it, I'm going for this.

Speaker 25 Like, if you don't get him there, there's a good chance Mahomes probably scores either running or passing because everything else breaks down.

Speaker 46 So like that play alone was so, so huge for the game.

Speaker 56 I just love the mentality of like, all right, let's do it.

Speaker 45 Like now it's go time.

Speaker 17 You probably weren't saying that to yourself, but I would imagine like, I like to imagine you being like, all right, let's go, Sam.

Speaker 71 We're fucking, we're doing this.

Speaker 8 We're going to to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 88 It was actually the guard, as soon as the guard turned and went on to BJ Hill and the center was on DJ, nobody was looking at me, and they were like part of the Red Sea.

Speaker 88 I was like, all right, I'm out.

Speaker 56 So, speaking of like your defensive performance, the entire team in the second half was exceptional.

Speaker 44 So, you guys, like, your patience.

Speaker 56 We always hear analysts say, like, your discipline on rush lanes and not letting the quarterback, you know, know get out especially a guy like mahomes how hard is it play to play to have that discipline where you're where you might like every now and then be like ooh i can make a play here if i just if i go if i lose my discipline for a second like how hard is that that's got to be really really hard especially when you think oh the play's there but i got to stay where i'm at

Speaker 88 yeah i mean mahomes it's I mean, we played him twice in a short time span, and I think it like unfolded the same way both times.

Speaker 88 Like the first half was just like a blur that, you know, Mahomes was kind of in total control of the game and we were, you know, getting back there, but he was just getting out of the pocket, extending plays.

Speaker 88 And both games that we beat him, we settled in in the second half and kind of just played our game, just

Speaker 88 kept him in the pocket, not trying to make huge plays and let him cover in the back end and stop those scrambles that really are dangerous and like backbreaking plays.

Speaker 88 We're able to eliminate those and that's really was the difference, I think.

Speaker 34 I love the phrase that you use too, boat up. I'm usually a pin my ears back guy myself, but boat up sounds like our defense.

Speaker 88 Our defense is red zone, boat up.

Speaker 88 We always say that down there, three points or zero.

Speaker 34 I love that. Yeah.
Did you guys have anything put in place in your game plan defensively for if you did happen to get into a 13 second or less scenario with Patrick Mahomes?

Speaker 88 No, I mean, we practice those situations every Saturday at walkthrough every week, and there are situations that you may never have in your career, like, you you know, sideline situations, or

Speaker 88 yeah, we just have different names for them.

Speaker 88 And they're like once every four years, a situation like those will come up where you actually need them, and you have to execute them perfectly in the biggest moments.

Speaker 88 And that's really the difference when it comes down to this time of the season.

Speaker 34 Yeah, have you had a chance to watch, you know, sit down and watch all the film?

Speaker 34 And have you been able to find one play that maybe us as just, you know, guys that watch football on TV maybe didn't realize was a very important play for your defense?

Speaker 34 But to you, it kind of changed things.

Speaker 88 Yeah, I mean, I heard you guys talk about the game, but I think Eli Apple's play at the end of the half on Tyreek Hill, like really, I mean, they score there. It's a totally different ballgame.

Speaker 88 That kind of was a momentum shift for us at half the difference in the game. That was just such a huge play.

Speaker 12 Yeah, going into halftime, I'm sure it was like, all right, we've been here before.

Speaker 21 It's literally the same exact deficit that we had in week 17.

Speaker 18 It's got to be huge doing that, like having that momentum going into the half.

Speaker 88 Yeah, and I I mean, I think the thing you see with our team is like our defense plays so hard at all times because we have full faith that whenever Joe gets the ball, he can bring us back into the game.

Speaker 88 So, like, we literally never quit or like question that if we just keep getting stops, like Joe can bring us back in the game.

Speaker 39 So, you're, you're, you're from Cincinnati.

Speaker 25 You were a captain in the game.

Speaker 16 It was you and Joe, captains of the game.

Speaker 1 Zach Taylor said afterwards, Ohio's finest, Cincinnati's finest.

Speaker 21 How many thank you texts have you gotten from just random people?

Speaker 46 Because, like, it's obviously

Speaker 45 everyone on the Bengals is so excited and what they're doing for the city, but it is your city.

Speaker 74 So, it's an added layer of like coolness to this whole thing.

Speaker 6 Have you just had people that you haven't talked to in a really long time being like, Thank you so much?

Speaker 88 Yeah, I mean, I think everybody I've ever met in my entire life has shot me a text or like an Instagram message. And also, like, my parents, my siblings,

Speaker 88 anybody that's ever like associated with our family is just so happy and reaching out. and the support's just crazy.
And to like

Speaker 88 make a play.

Speaker 8 Oh, sorry. That's all right.

Speaker 8 Can you hear that? Yeah, we can.

Speaker 54 That's okay.

Speaker 34 Is that Joe? You can put him on it.

Speaker 28 It's another person texting you or calling you.

Speaker 19 Hey, Sam, wanted to say, we were in PE class in fifth grade.

Speaker 71 Want to say thanks.

Speaker 88 It was a random number. But yeah, no, it's crazy.

Speaker 88 Everybody I ever met is just hitting me up. And I just, I love the, my favorite part is the videos of the bars in Cincinnati.

Speaker 88 When the kick goes through, people are just like weeping and crying and just

Speaker 34 shotgunning skyline chili. Yeah, so I've seen like five videos of people either beer bonging or just like opening up a can with a can opener and just pouring it down their face.
It's great.

Speaker 34 It's awesome to see.

Speaker 46 It's truly the best part about sports.

Speaker 3 Like you have a franchise that hasn't had success in a really long time and you can see the like outpouring of emotions.

Speaker 54 I just love the fact that every literally every person you've ever met, including Bubba, who you went on vacation with, what, like 20 years ago, also hits you up.

Speaker 69 Everyone, literally, anyone who's met you ever has hits you up.

Speaker 88 Yeah, I think it was just making the play and that stage. Like, that was probably the biggest stage I've been in my career.
And, like, last play of the game of regulation, sack bumble.

Speaker 88 Like, you can't imagine a better situation. It's just, it's crazy.
I'm just, oh, yeah, it's awesome.

Speaker 34 You realize that you're now America's team, right? Like, the entire country is rooting for you, with the exception of maybe, I don't know, like a few guys and like Rob Lowe.

Speaker 34 Rob Lowe and Snoop Dogg are rooting for the Rams. And everybody else, because you kind of represent,

Speaker 34 you know, like it or not, you represent a lot of teams that never thought that they would have a chance at the Super Bowl.

Speaker 34 You, like, if you're a fan of the Detroit Lions, who actually might be a little bit rooting for Matt Stafford, but like the Lions, the Jets, teams that have had a really rough go of it for the last like five or six years.

Speaker 34 They're all rooting for you because your odds were so long going into this season to even find yourself in the playoffs, much less the Super Bowl.

Speaker 34 You're kind of, you're, you're America's darlings right now.

Speaker 88 Yeah, no, we appreciate that. Um, I mean, my first year, this is my first winning season.
Um,

Speaker 88 and like, I mean,

Speaker 88 I was like, yeah, one playoff win, it's been 31 years. Like, that was my going into the season.
I'm like, let's just win one playoff game for the city. Like, that was my main goal.
And

Speaker 88 I, I talked to Joe after that first playoff when I was like, dude, like, do you realize what we did? And he was just like, eh, no, I mean, we got a lot more to do.

Speaker 88 It's pretty cool, but like, it's just,

Speaker 88 it's, it's a crazy mentality that we have on this team. It's like everything's aligning together.
Stars are aligning. It's, I mean, you said Team of Destiny.
I feel like we're a team of destiny.

Speaker 34 Yes. When did that occur to you this year that like this team is built a little bit different? Like there's a different vibe around these bangles than those bangles.

Speaker 88 I think during

Speaker 88 offseason, we were all on virtual, on Zoom, trying to discuss when we, it was like, if you remember way back, it was up in the air whether teams would be meeting for the offseason virtually or in person.

Speaker 88 Teams opted out and all that stuff, CBA issues. And we kind of just.

Speaker 88 Every single person on our team wanted to come in, get together. We had a lot of new guys, a lot of free agents, and wanted to come in because we haven't had success and we wanted to be great.
And

Speaker 88 we did six weeks of OTAs together, and that was really where we all all bonded and kind of laid the foundation of what we wanted to be for the year.

Speaker 11 So you said something that was interesting there I wanted to go back to.

Speaker 13 You like after the first win, the excitement is all off the charts.

Speaker 30 You know, Joe Burrow's like, yeah, we still got a lot to work on here.

Speaker 14 We got a long road to go.

Speaker 38 How long is it before you have to switch to the next game?

Speaker 37 Because, you know, as regular guys, I think that we can say that if we have like any little piece of success, we're like, all right, we're good forever.

Speaker 34 I would still be drunk.

Speaker 81 Yeah, you win something and you're like, sweet, I never have to do this again.

Speaker 17 But the turnaround is one week.

Speaker 44 Like, how quickly did you guys, did you stop celebrating?

Speaker 35 You're like, all right, and now it's the Titans. Now it's the Chiefs.

Speaker 88 Yeah, I mean, every week it's kind of the same routine. I mean, this is like our 23rd week in a row playing games.
It's a long season.

Speaker 88 But you have that Monday, it's victory Monday, or you, after a loss, you have 24 hours of like misery. And you wake up on Tuesday, the player off day, and you kind of just turn the page,

Speaker 88 you you know, do your routines, massages, or whatever to get right, and start game planning for the next week. So when it's a big win, you enjoy.

Speaker 88 I mean, this is pretty great because we have an extra week to enjoy this victory, but we'll still be watching the Rams.

Speaker 8 But

Speaker 88 you turn the page quick.

Speaker 34 Just out of pure curiosity, what color Gatorade do you guys usually have on the sidelines during games?

Speaker 88 Actually, it's always consistently orange.

Speaker 8 Now that you say that, you haven't noticed that.

Speaker 34 That's interesting. We'll bleep that out so that nobody else finds out.
But

Speaker 34 I'm just curious for no real reason about that.

Speaker 34 One thing I've always appreciated about you, Sam, is the fact that

Speaker 34 you're a Swiss Army knife in that you play defensive end and fullback. I haven't seen you getting too many reps at fullback, though, recently.
Is that something that we might see?

Speaker 34 in the Super Bowl potentially you getting back out there and getting another fullback assist because you came in second place I think in fullback assists back in 2018.

Speaker 88 Yeah, no, it actually amazed me when you and I met back back in the Super Bowl 2019 of that rough and rowdy. I was like, yeah, hey, I'm Sam, PFT.

Speaker 88 And you're actually like, oh, Sam Hubbard, you had seven fullbacks assists in 2019. I was like, really impressed.
Like, I didn't even know I had that.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I'm like Rainman for grit.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 88 I've been on my offensive coordinator trying to get me back in there, but I kind of gave up and I'm patiently waiting for my number to be called.

Speaker 88 We'll see when it happens.

Speaker 34 Yeah, I would love for that to happen.

Speaker 34 That would make me happier than when an offensive lineman catches a touchdown in the red zone.

Speaker 34 To see you get out there and blow somebody up from the five-yard line on a fullback assistance. That would make my week.
Yeah.

Speaker 88 I know.

Speaker 88 Mike Greyball type or

Speaker 88 something like that. That would be perfect.

Speaker 44 So you listen to the show, right?

Speaker 4 You listen to the show?

Speaker 88 Yeah, big time. Okay.

Speaker 11 So you know, you know, things we talk about and, you know, our likes and dislikes.

Speaker 69 So since you are in AWL, talk about Urban Meyer's character.

Speaker 88 I'm not going to go there. I was anticipating this question coming, but hey, was that, or what is the biggest

Speaker 56 lesson that Urban Meyer has taught you?

Speaker 20 I didn't, I decided, you know, it was a game time decision which one I was going to go with.

Speaker 88 Yeah, I mean, he,

Speaker 88 I have a crazy recruiting story with Coach Meyer, but I was the lacrosse player back in the day, and he somehow saw a football player in me and actually convinced me to flip over to football.

Speaker 8 No way. way.
Wait, so

Speaker 44 when did you start playing football?

Speaker 88 You played in high school, but yeah, I played lacrosse and football from like third grade, but I was committed to play lacrosse at Notre Dame in high school.

Speaker 88 And I was like, yeah, I'm just doing football for fun. And

Speaker 88 yeah, he came into my gym class actually in junior year of high school, just recruiting at Moeller. And was like, who's that big, tall dude? I was like 185 pounds at the time.

Speaker 88 He's like, and my coach is like, that's our safety. You know, he's a lacrosse player.
And that's really where the relationship started. We just started talking.

Speaker 88 I went to their camp, and he's like, yeah, you need to come play football.

Speaker 34 So Urban looked at you, and he's like, this guy's tall. He plays football.

Speaker 72 We were playing non-communists.

Speaker 8 This guy's fat. Yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 34 He's like, how do you make this guy a lineman?

Speaker 35 Great eye for talent.

Speaker 88 Yeah, I guess so. I owe him a lot for that.

Speaker 11 Have you ever given Joe shit for?

Speaker 12 I mean, obviously he made the right choice, but for transferring from Ohio State?

Speaker 88 No, I mean, that was a tough situation. I remember the whole

Speaker 88 process because he was deciding where to go. I think he was down to the University of Cincinnati, actually, in LSU.
And, I mean, that's a big time stage. And he went down there and took over.

Speaker 88 So it worked out for him.

Speaker 28 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 34 I mean, that's, I'd say so.

Speaker 4 It's very hard.

Speaker 55 Like, whenever college football fans are like, oh, this guy transferred from here.

Speaker 12 Justin Fields went from Georgia.

Speaker 30 It's like, there's a lot that goes into it.

Speaker 4 It's not like they just decide it overnight.

Speaker 41 Like, oh, yeah, I'm going to go to LSU. I'm out of here.

Speaker 88 I mean, yeah.

Speaker 88 And the whole, yeah the whole situation was he got hurt um you know that the year before and uh you know Dwayne stepped in and played great it was just a tough spot a lot of talent at Ohio State he he uh he did what was right for him and I mean look at look at where he is now yeah and I think you know you guys have a pretty close team it seems like right now and you know obviously going through what that this team has gone through in the last couple years going into winning you know playoff games on playoff games going to the super Bowl.

Speaker 34 You're going to gel a little bit. One thing I appreciate about your defense, especially your defensive line, on the other side, you've got Trey Hendrickson.

Speaker 34 And does he wear the arm sleeves so that the announcers can tell him apart from you? Is that like a handshake deal you guys have?

Speaker 88 No, I mean, that's

Speaker 88 the no-gloves, sleeves is his thing. And, you know, I will, I don't know how, I honestly don't know how he plays the game without gloves because like my fingers and hands get mangled and he's just

Speaker 88 out there doing his things it's i don't know we're we're uh we're very close i mean he came in free agency and uh we hit it off right away but we're two very different people like yin and yang we always say and uh the whole defensive line we go out to dinner together we're all we're all super close i think that is what makes our defense special for sure who can eat the most on your defensive line

Speaker 88 I mean,

Speaker 88 I don't know. We've got some pretty big nose tackles.
Tyler Shelvin. You You know, Tyler Shelvin's the guy that's the picture of him in college holding Joe.
Yeah.

Speaker 88 And then at the AFC, him on his shoulders again.

Speaker 3 It's so sick.

Speaker 44 You got to get ready because people are just going to tell you for the next two weeks that the Super Bowl is really fast.

Speaker 4 So let us be the first to tell you that.

Speaker 74 That the speed of the Super Bowl is crazy.

Speaker 88 Really? I haven't heard that yet.

Speaker 35 You're going to be shocked when you see it.

Speaker 4 As people who've watched a lot of Super Bowls, it's fast.

Speaker 88 Okay. That's what they said when they first come into the league, and I got out there for my first preseason game, and I was like, holy shit, this is fast.
Like, it really is true.

Speaker 88 Like, the speed of the game is just ridiculous.

Speaker 8 Also, halftime.

Speaker 20 Halftime is longer, so you got to be ready for that, okay?

Speaker 88 Yeah, okay. Yeah, Eminem, I heard.

Speaker 34 That would be Snoop Dogg. Yes.

Speaker 8 Dr. Dre.

Speaker 34 Has there been any discussion around the locker room about winning this one for Harambe?

Speaker 34 Bringing one home for the Sweet Prince. For the Lowland Gorilla.

Speaker 88 Sweet prince, no, I mean, that's our guy, that's our hero.

Speaker 88 I think that's known, kind of goes without saying.

Speaker 8 Right.

Speaker 88 You know, we're doing this for him.

Speaker 21 So, so it's safe to say that you were on the side of the Harambe Grievers and, like, the kid, like, shouldn't have been there.

Speaker 88 It's tough to say,

Speaker 88 but I mean,

Speaker 8 yeah, I mean, I hope someone asked you about Harambe Media Day.

Speaker 2 I think the fact that this is now coming back up is so, it's the perfect amount of time, too, where it's funny.

Speaker 88 I mean, I look for it every after every game is that the, I don't know if it's memes or whoever puts up the roman looking over the stadium.

Speaker 88 Make my day every time.

Speaker 8 It's so good.

Speaker 34 So you were in Cincinnati or you were around Ohio at the time in 2016, right?

Speaker 88 I was at Ohio State at the time, but what was the mood like on campus that day?

Speaker 88 Sullen. I mean, heartbreaking.
No, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 8 Well,

Speaker 11 I'll give you a chance here, like maybe a Mark Wahlberg chance.

Speaker 14 Like, if you were there, would it have gone differently?

Speaker 71 Would you have maybe been able to rescue the child without lethal force?

Speaker 88 I think so. I think,

Speaker 88 yeah, that would have added to the Cincinnati legend for sure.

Speaker 34 You just jump in there and make Harambe tap out.

Speaker 8 Yeah. Yeah, go up on, bow up on Harambe.

Speaker 8 Bow up on Harambe.

Speaker 31 Just Sam Hubbard fucking blitzing Harambe, takes him down.

Speaker 68 Harambe can't spin out on you.

Speaker 8 No, no chance.

Speaker 34 Harambe, he moves like Big Ben now.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 34 Yeah. Cement boots.

Speaker 41 Actually, dead Harambe probably moves better than Big Ben.

Speaker 48 That's true.

Speaker 34 That's a fact.

Speaker 69 How was it

Speaker 37 playing against Ben at this stage of his career?

Speaker 88 I mean, I watched him go against the Bengals my whole life. He's a legend.

Speaker 88 I mean,

Speaker 88 he gets the ball off. Actually, my rookie year, I think that was 2018 was my first time.
It was the last game of the season. And, you know, Ben was

Speaker 88 pretty large. And I got back there and wrapped him up and just got completely thrown off.
He scrambled or stepped up in the pocket and threw a third down.

Speaker 88 It felt like I was trying to tackle an offensive lineman. I was like, oh, my gosh, they said he's big, but like, I didn't know he was that big.
He's big.

Speaker 88 Yeah.

Speaker 36 This is my favorite interview because like knowing that you know every joke that we make and we're just going to keep asking you like, what do you think about Big Ben?

Speaker 31 What do you think about Urban Meyer?

Speaker 2 What are your thoughts on LeBron?

Speaker 8 do you like lebron

Speaker 88 hey ohio oh akron's very own he's an ohio guy yeah just a kid from akron yeah yeah he actually uh he was out on the sidelines uh he was in the locker room too when we played um uh team up north one year um at oh state that was pretty cool what about

Speaker 34 he gave the whole team beats too oh really was that impermissible benefit uh yeah that's before nil right sam no no no

Speaker 34 he was joking Yeah.

Speaker 88 Yeah, I was joking. We didn't actually get him.
I think it was

Speaker 8 Google.

Speaker 55 This would be similar to when we had Joe on and got Odell in trouble and all that stuff.

Speaker 88 I think it was permissible because of bull gifts or something like that.

Speaker 34 Yeah, and also because he's LeBron.

Speaker 8 And Urban Meyer was a coach.

Speaker 34 Do whatever he wants. Yeah, and Urban Meyer was using the beats by Dre to teach a lesson about accountability down the line because you're only permitted to listen to motivational podcasts.
Yes.

Speaker 8 Yes. Got it.

Speaker 88 So I cannot further incriminate myself anymore.

Speaker 34 So you're from Cincinnati, born and raised. You play in Cincinnati now.
What are your thoughts on Skyline Chili, and can you tell us why?

Speaker 34 What's your favorite part about Skyline Chili? Is it the texture, the cinnamon, or the spaghetti?

Speaker 88 Actually, right here, I have a Cincinnati fact for you.

Speaker 8 Oh, let's go.

Speaker 34 I love Cincinnati facts.

Speaker 88 Okay, Cincinnatians eat over 2 million pounds of Skyline Chili annually. Cincinnati facts.

Speaker 8 Wow. That's a good Cincinnati fact.
How many crackers, though?

Speaker 75 The crackers are great.

Speaker 88 The thing is, so like you sit down

Speaker 88 at Skyline and you get a little bowl of crackers and water and hot sauce, and you just douse the crackers and hot sauce, and then your mouth is on fire until your skyline comes.

Speaker 88 And like, it's the routine every time.

Speaker 50 Yeah.

Speaker 34 No, you described it perfectly. It's a routine.
Yeah. It's not really a meal as much as it is just, you know, like it's, it's like making the trip to Mecca.

Speaker 35 Yeah, it's brushing your teeth in the morning.

Speaker 59 You know, you're doing it.

Speaker 8 Yeah, you're not thinking about it.

Speaker 34 No, first you eat the cracker with the hot sauce, then you eat the chili. That's what we do.
Yeah.

Speaker 88 Yes, you have to do. And, I mean, my orders, I get three plain cheese counties and a three-way every time.

Speaker 34 The DK Metcalf.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 46 I still just can't get over the fact that, like,

Speaker 5 people do it for lunch.

Speaker 17 Like, go eat Skyline for lunch and then go back to work.

Speaker 8 That will blow my mind forever.

Speaker 88 I space it out. I actually, like, after every

Speaker 88 season's over every year, the first place I go to is Skyline because, like, you're not going to feel good after you eat it. But, uh, I mean, it's, there's nothing better.

Speaker 88 So I can, I can't, I don't know how people do that either, but like late night and stuff like that, it hits the

Speaker 34 drunk food for sure.

Speaker 11 It's a glowing endorsement to say you're not going to feel good after eating it.

Speaker 34 I mean, there's a lot of stuff that I eat that I feel bad after eating. I think that's right, though.
Going there and then having to go continue on with responsibility.

Speaker 34 That's a meal that will ruin.

Speaker 34 Give yourself a 24-hour buffer to just recover from that meal.

Speaker 61 Just imagine a guy in a suit going and eating

Speaker 16 a whole fucking three-way and then going back to his desk and trying to type something into an Excel spreadsheet.

Speaker 59 That is actually like an Iron Man.

Speaker 43 That's the most impressive athletic feat of all time.

Speaker 88 Yeah, no, that takes some serious,

Speaker 88 some serious grit.

Speaker 88 I don't know. I don't think I could do it.
I'd be in a coma.

Speaker 34 Or like negotiating against somebody, like going back and being a serious businessman.

Speaker 14 I guess they're all eating skylines, so it's like that's almost like the pre-fight routine.

Speaker 8 Yeah. Like, let's both go get stuff.

Speaker 34 Touching gloves is having a couple of conies with each other. Yes.

Speaker 34 What's one thing that you don't like about Joe Burrow?

Speaker 8 Good question.

Speaker 8 Great question. Thank you.

Speaker 88 It's a tough one. I can't do my boy like that.
I don't know. I don't think there's anything I don't like.
He's Joe Cool. He's the guy.

Speaker 34 I mean, what about the glasses? Are the glasses, do they always play? Or does he sometimes put on a pair that he tries out? And you guys are like, that's a little bit too far, Joe.

Speaker 88 No, he doesn't try. He doesn't get our thoughts.
He just does it every time. But he wore those glasses.
And I was like, hmm, I don't know. I don't know about those.
And then

Speaker 88 the next week was we went to Tennessee and literally every person I saw on every picture

Speaker 88 on social media everywhere is wearing these like glasses and it's like like taking over the city their glasses are on everybody tailgating and they're like the biggest hit what

Speaker 4 what is it about him in a locker room like i'm sure there'll be a ton of stories written this super bowl week like the it factor you know a lot of times the it factor just means you're winning but for joe burrow it feels like he's had it even if you go back to lsu before the season before they won the national title if you talk to anyone about that like he was confident he's always been confident like does he have that effect on the locker room where guys just buy in because of who he is?

Speaker 88 Yeah, no doubt. I mean, people in the position Joe's in will sometimes like try to force things or be somebody they're not.
And like the thing about Joe is he just does everything

Speaker 88 organically and just handles every situation. Like

Speaker 88 after you, after he does it, you're like, that's my quarterback. Like, I don't know.
It's hard to explain. It's just

Speaker 88 hard to

Speaker 58 like, you can't even replicate or put your finger on exactly what it is you know yeah it feels like he has the perfect blend of like confidence and then there's something about having confidence and then backing it up with actions that's like the most infectious thing ever you know when you see someone like oh yeah i'm confident in myself i'm not cocky i don't think he's cocky i think he's confident he's not like you know saying crazy things or or trying to be boisterous he's just confident and then he goes and does it and then you're like okay this guy can walk on water

Speaker 88 yeah exactly and he he's always been that way. And

Speaker 88 yeah, when you back it up, what you're saying, I mean, anything that he says, you're not going to be like, oh, that's a stretch or that's a lie.

Speaker 88 Like, it's like, okay, like, yeah, then he goes and does it. Yeah.

Speaker 34 Did you have a word with Brandon Allen about calling heads at the coin flip at overtime? We need to straighten that out in case there's an overtime situation in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 50 Tails doesn't fail.

Speaker 88 I

Speaker 88 think Joe called heads when we were at the coin toss before the game, too, and I think it was Tails. But that coin toss Brandon Allen went out there for, I was after I just

Speaker 88 had those sacks back to back, and I was completely exhausted. I was on the sideline, like sitting on the bench, like not even sure where I was at.
It was crazy.

Speaker 88 But yeah, we'll have to go Ted's next.

Speaker 34 Tails next time. Yeah, Tails doesn't fail.
It never fails. That's how it rhymes.

Speaker 88 I believe that, too. I'm firmly believing that.

Speaker 34 That's how it rhymes.

Speaker 79 Let's get some Super Bowl Media Day questions out of the the way for you so that you're ready and prepared.

Speaker 20 How many tickets?

Speaker 23 How many tickets you got to get for your family?

Speaker 60 That's definitely going to be asked.

Speaker 88 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 88 right now, I mean, we have a team meeting later to get some more information, but that's probably the most stressful part right now.

Speaker 8 Do you want us to handle it?

Speaker 11 I've always heard you got to have someone else handle it.

Speaker 5 We can handle it.

Speaker 34 Public can handle it.

Speaker 49 You give us the tickets.

Speaker 39 We'll make sure it gets to your family and then some of your friends.

Speaker 8 What? Sweet?

Speaker 88 Aren't you getting a a sweet from

Speaker 34 McVay. He's been ducking us.
He's a slippery little bastard.

Speaker 50 That's tough.

Speaker 54 We should actually, you know what?

Speaker 16 We should, now that I'm thinking about it, we should just show up in L.A.

Speaker 78 with an extra challenge flag and be like, McVay, here, take this and give us a sweet.

Speaker 34 I'll trade you.

Speaker 59 Yeah, you get three now in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 17 Because you know he wants to, he's going to throw one before the coin toss.

Speaker 88 But I appreciate the offer. I think my mom's going to handle the tickets.

Speaker 28 Okay, all right.

Speaker 41 Well, if you need a backup, we can, you know, we won't sell all of them, just most of them for an insane profit.

Speaker 34 Yeah, very big profit for sure.

Speaker 8 Yeah, um, I don't know, are they doing super media, Super Bowl Media Day this year?

Speaker 11 I think they're doing like a Zoom probably.

Speaker 34 I think it was one of those things where they tried to do it last year, but they canceled it. And then they said, you know what? It turns out we don't really need Super Bowl Media Day.

Speaker 34 Like, nobody really missed it last year.

Speaker 69 Yeah.

Speaker 11 I mean, you're going to get, you're going to get like a story written about you in like Sports Illustrated or something about, actually,

Speaker 46 can Jake write that story?

Speaker 42 Can he interview you?

Speaker 88 Yeah, I mean, I'd love that.

Speaker 8 Okay,

Speaker 75 yeah.

Speaker 88 Maybe we beat everyone with that interview where it's like, I don't know how Super Bowl media, I don't never been there. I don't know how it works.

Speaker 39 Well, it's going to be hometown kid.

Speaker 46 Like, there's always storylines.

Speaker 59 Burrow's going to have the it factor.

Speaker 42 Matt Stafford's going to have like a Detroit storyline.

Speaker 34 It's going to be the first overall pick versus the first overall pick. They'll talk about that.
You know, CC, all this. They probably do.
They'll probably say, like, you're the new Chris Hogan.

Speaker 34 If Chris Collinsworth finds out that you played lacrosse in high school, oh my God, he's going to be like, here's a guy that played lacrosse in high school, Al.

Speaker 1 Oh, we should get, all right, so now that we're talking this out, we need to get in touch with

Speaker 14 whoever recruited you at Notre Dame.

Speaker 35 Jake will contact him. It will be the lacrosse story.

Speaker 8 Yes.

Speaker 8 Sam Hubbard.

Speaker 11 How Sam Hubbard could have been on the water dogs and been a loser.

Speaker 17 Instead, he's on the Bengals and a winner.

Speaker 34 Even better lacrosse player than he was a football player in high school.

Speaker 8 Yes.

Speaker 88 Yeah, Jerry Byrne, Notre Dame coach, who recruited me.

Speaker 88 This is a great story.

Speaker 45 Yeah, this would be great.

Speaker 37 I want Jake to do like a big J journalist story on Sam Hubbard because someone's going to do it.

Speaker 4 We got to beat him to it.

Speaker 88 Yeah, no, he's got exclusive rights now.

Speaker 88 Let's get it on the books.

Speaker 34 Perfect, perfect.

Speaker 34 Evan McPherson, does he have like a pass in the locker room? Like he's not a kicker. He's one of us.

Speaker 88 Yes, definitely. I mean,

Speaker 88 I said this in my media when they asked me about him. I was like, we drafted a kicker.

Speaker 88 OTAs, I'm like trying to chirp him, like get him around him, give him shit. And he never like, I mean, he's this,

Speaker 88 he's like a smaller guy, but he never backed down. He would talk shit right back.
And,

Speaker 88 you know, has a personality. He's a cool dude.
He's got confidence. And

Speaker 88 after he's been making these kicks,

Speaker 88 everybody's just super happy he's on our team.

Speaker 34 He's a great dude. Does anybody ever give kickers shit when they miss some easy ones? Because I know he had that tough game against Green Bay early this year.

Speaker 88 That was kind of a fluke. I mean,

Speaker 88 both kickers were missing on that game. I think there was like eight missed field goals.
I mean, that was just a crazy game. I think, I know, but no one really says anything.
Everybody knows. Just

Speaker 88 on to the next one.

Speaker 34 Yeah, the way he's played this year, like as a rookie, is so impressive, especially in the playoffs, where I do think that he's the second best kicker in the league behind Justin Tucker right now, which is saying so, to even mention him in the same breath.

Speaker 34 But when you have a kicker that has that much ice water in his veins, there's a huge boost. It does make a difference.

Speaker 34 And I think it made a little bit of a difference in the game plan that you guys had against the Chiefs, where sometimes teams are like, we're not going to beat the Chiefs with field goals.

Speaker 34 But it turns out points count the same as points.

Speaker 34 You know, like three points, it's still three points. And if you add them up, you can actually beat the Chiefs with field goals.

Speaker 14 Matt LaFleur tried that.

Speaker 34 Matt LaFleur tried that. But

Speaker 34 you actually have a good enough weapon at kicker where it's almost like a luxury to have that on your team.

Speaker 88 Yeah, I mean, once you cross like, I don't know, 35 or whatever, it's like automatic points.

Speaker 88 And like, you see Joe, I mean, even in the playoffs, like against Tennessee, you just see him, he gets pressured down the red zone. He just takes care of the ball.

Speaker 88 Like, he might get sacked, but he's not going to turn the ball over because we still get three points. Like, he's just going to make a smart decision, not like do something crazy.

Speaker 88 And we're just going to take the points and go out there and get another stop, get the ball back. It's just.

Speaker 88 Really nice to have a reliable kicker, trust me.

Speaker 88 So my last football question, when you drop back in coverage because that was a lot of you know the chiefs second half was you know dropping eight and you're you're the guy who usually drops is there ever a moment when you're dropped back in coverage where like a tyree kill or someone who's running across the field you're like oh fuck like this is because it the reality of football is you have power speed but you don't have wide receiver speed does that ever cross your mind uh like uh oh this is going to be a bad situation if i get like one-on-one with this guy yeah i actually speaking of Tyreek Hill, and a few years ago, 2018, we were in Kansas City my first time, and we had a similar type of game plan where I'd walk out on Tyreek Hill and jam him and then drop back over the ball.

Speaker 88 And they snap the ball and he does like the quickest like

Speaker 88 juke I've ever seen and like completely ducks under me and I whiff on my jam and he's like 10 yards down the field by the time I even like turn around and I'm just like and then they complete the ball to him, and I was like, oh my, like, what the hell?

Speaker 88 And yeah, once you get out in space with these guys, you really see sometimes

Speaker 88 why you belong in the trenches. But

Speaker 47 it's like not fair.

Speaker 11 It's probably similar like when a running back who's not great at blocking tries to block you, you got to feel like a superhuman.

Speaker 56 Whereas when one of these like speedsters is breaking you down at the line of scrimmage, it's like, uh-oh, this is scary.

Speaker 88 Yeah, I mean, but the coaches do a good job of never putting us like one-on-one with like zero help over top in situations like that um

Speaker 88 so we're never truly like out on an island as a big man you can't or else it's just not going to go well um all right so i had one last question it's the roback question you're wearing roback i think your cousin maybe started roback is that true yeah actually um he was one of the founders and uh

Speaker 88 Back in the day, they were just trying out products and would give them to me. I'd just be rocking it before they ever like blew up.

Speaker 88 And kind kind of just organically, as my career has grown, they've blown up. And we're just, I'm a Roback athlete, so it's really cool.

Speaker 54 Yeah, we love Roback.

Speaker 11 They've been a great sponsor of ours.

Speaker 43 Use code PMT when you go to RHOBACK.com.

Speaker 24 And Sam Hubbard's an official Roeback athlete.

Speaker 59 So now you have to support it.

Speaker 45 He's an AWL.

Speaker 74 We got to support each other.

Speaker 26 20% off when you go to roback.com and you use code PMT.

Speaker 46 So

Speaker 28 Liam, Bubba, our producer, you went on vacation with him?

Speaker 59 Like, this is the weirdest, the fact that we were just talking about the game on Sunday night, and he's like, oh, yeah, like 15 years ago, I went on vacation with Sam Hubbard.

Speaker 56 Do you remember him?

Speaker 23 Did he leave an impression on you?

Speaker 88 So I don't know. My aunt

Speaker 88 texted me last night. And

Speaker 88 I don't know.

Speaker 88 Somehow they made the connection that I was coming on the show today.

Speaker 88 And so Liam went to Breezy Point with my cousins because they're close family friends but i spent all my summers going to breezy point for vacation and uh it's like the best place on earth and uh she told me that liam fell in love with breezy point he can chime in but uh yeah that's

Speaker 37 the connection right there he asked do you still go there

Speaker 88 uh i don't i haven't been there in a while my grandma's uh sold her a house that we used to stay at when I was like in high school, so it's been a while. But my cousins are still there.

Speaker 88 I need to get back out there.

Speaker 34 Legendary vacay spot. That's Bubba talks about it all the time.

Speaker 46 So, yeah, he's always like, we'll go places.

Speaker 11 We'll like go to Vegas or went to Malibu.

Speaker 12 He's like, yeah, it's cool, but it's no Breezy Point.

Speaker 88 Yeah, Breezy Point's the best. I mean, you ride your bikes everywhere.

Speaker 8 There's no cars.

Speaker 62 That's why I like it.

Speaker 8 There's no cars.

Speaker 34 He always says there's no cars there. You can ride your bike all over the place.

Speaker 88 Yeah, every street's like blocked off. It's crazy.

Speaker 8 I have a fear of cars. Yeah,

Speaker 12 he got hit by a car, so that actually works.

Speaker 34 He's the the crazy point king.

Speaker 8 Allegedly got hit by a car.

Speaker 34 It's a magical place for sure.

Speaker 14 Yes.

Speaker 11 Okay, so last, last question I had.

Speaker 13 You went to Moeller High School.

Speaker 45 I hear all the time that their soccer program's good, but they never won anything.

Speaker 88 Yeah, I mean, I can't comment. I didn't play soccer, but

Speaker 88 yeah, I think this is...

Speaker 88 Someone I'm going to have to reach out to.

Speaker 88 Mike Welker.

Speaker 8 Yeah. I believe his name is.

Speaker 34 That's him. Hotsie.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 34 He's coaching for his job right now.

Speaker 88 He's make it or break it year.

Speaker 42 Yeah. This is actually really mean because Welker, and I've known him for a decade.

Speaker 71 He does our t-shirts for people who don't know the behind the scenes. He's done it for literally like a decade with Barstool.

Speaker 47 He's like an all-time nice guy, great guy, but he definitely will be like, wait, am I on the hot seat?

Speaker 17 Fuck.

Speaker 88 Does he listen to the show?

Speaker 8 Yeah, sure. He will, yeah.

Speaker 16 He was at the game.

Speaker 54 He was decked out in Bengals gear.

Speaker 37 So, yeah, he's going to be nervous that we put him on the hot spot.

Speaker 34 I mean, his midfield connection with the fullbacks needs some work.

Speaker 34 It's like they're not even playing soccer out there. It's like they're playing just like four in the back, four up front.

Speaker 34 Get your midfielders to actually hustle their ass back on defense, Mike.

Speaker 8 Hashtag welker out.

Speaker 88 I mean, you guys are speaking a foreign language. I don't know anything about soccer.

Speaker 34 You're lacrosse guy.

Speaker 8 That's right. Yeah.

Speaker 54 Yeah, we're going to get the details of that story.

Speaker 11 All right, well, Sam, congrats again, man. So awesome.

Speaker 54 Unbelievable play. That play, like, like,

Speaker 23 I watched it like five times before we got on this interview.

Speaker 20 Like, that's, it's an all-time moment for the city of Cincinnati.

Speaker 34 Oh, I have one last, last question. Go ahead.
What sound does Patrick Mahomes make when you sack him?

Speaker 8 Ooh.

Speaker 88 I mean,

Speaker 88 when you tackle somebody like that, you're like in the pile. You just hear like, just like,

Speaker 8 like,

Speaker 88 no specific sound. I mean,

Speaker 88 I saw him after the game, though, shook hands. He's a class sack.
Just, you know, told us to go win it all. Just a

Speaker 88 great competitor.

Speaker 34 Yeah. What about Big Ben? What sound does he make when you sack him?

Speaker 8 Barts.

Speaker 88 Yeah, I had one this year where I

Speaker 88 did a text and came underneath and

Speaker 88 happened to be falling and took his legs out. And it was just a tabletop situation.
He went down pretty hard because I heard him fall next to me.

Speaker 88 But yeah, he's...

Speaker 2 He got back up?

Speaker 88 Dude, I don't think he makes any sounds.

Speaker 47 Yeah, he got back up.

Speaker 2 All right.

Speaker 59 Well, Sam, best of luck in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 6 we're rooting for you uh really appreciate you coming on yeah thanks for having me

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Speaker 43 Now welcome on our good friend Uncle Chap.

Speaker 80 I don't like being here.

Speaker 63 What?

Speaker 8 Here? It was the couch a second ago.

Speaker 80 But just like a more general... This couch stinks.

Speaker 80 It's not an ad, right? Billy? Is this couch an ad?

Speaker 34 That is Billy's spot that his ass is used to.

Speaker 80 It's so flattened out.

Speaker 80 You're like so much lower than you guys.

Speaker 49 Billy, did you stink couch that?

Speaker 80 Is it stinky? Not stinks, like it's just not comfortable. It's not a good spot.
Like, I feel like I can't be relaxed. I got to lean forward a little bit.

Speaker 34 Have you thought about lying down on it?

Speaker 8 No.

Speaker 34 We had a professional cuddler come in here and cuddled with Jake.

Speaker 15 Would you like to cuddle with jake would that make you feel better yeah it was good to break it in yeah it was it was very sexual there you go we're gonna say hank that's better that looks comfy that's better yeah uh you're you're a handyman chaps big time toolie uh billy broke the couch probably uh 18 months ago and was tasked with fixing it and this was the leg how do you think well as a as a craftsman how do you think he has he done

Speaker 80 i just saw that it was like at a like a sharp angle that's not how that's not good yeah there's a

Speaker 47 box of what c4 core seltzers seltzers

Speaker 80 that's probably gonna stick around for a while i got the job done i would say it's a very troop thing of him to do to improvise adapt and overcome but you said it stinks does it stink does a couch stink no it's just not a good couch like that you know you're doing the yucky yeah like it feels kind of yucky like and not from like i'm obviously a gross dude i don't mind that no you fix your eyes yeah i have yeah i'm doing skincare now by the way oh you need you need to do you see me in a dead sea mask no

Speaker 80 i was in a dead sea mask okay what is that you just put it on your face and it looks like mud from the Dead Sea. That's cool.
I don't even know if it's really from the Dead Sea See.

Speaker 27 It's shipping on that.

Speaker 80 $4.99. Nice.

Speaker 8 Not bad. Ship anywhere.

Speaker 38 All right, so you're doing skincare.

Speaker 14 Your eyes look better.

Speaker 54 Your face looks the same.

Speaker 66 How's Gussy Boy?

Speaker 80 Gussy Boy from Heaven Above is doing great. Baby Dale Woohoo, a little bit of trouble right now.
He's in a rebellious stage. He's about two and a half.
Yeah. He's kind of in his rebellious stage.

Speaker 80 He does not want to go outside to go to the bathroom when it's cold.

Speaker 50 Wait, do dogs have...

Speaker 34 I just kind of said yeah, and went along with that, like, dogs knowingly go through rebellious stages.

Speaker 67 Oh, the terrible twos is a real thing.

Speaker 8 I don't, I don't know if that's true. I love it.
Yeah, it is. Terrible twos for dogs.

Speaker 34 And then they just stay bad for the rest of their life.

Speaker 80 No, the triumphant threes. They're back at the king.

Speaker 59 The kings again.

Speaker 34 Wait, but wouldn't that be dog years? Wouldn't that be when they're like three months old to four months old?

Speaker 80 Adolescence. So whenever you're two years old, you're looking at your prime, pre-teen, teenage years, and they're very angsty.

Speaker 43 Yeah.

Speaker 11 What about Sprinky Dinks?

Speaker 80 Sprinkled ankle is doing great.

Speaker 80 Been shedding a little bit more.

Speaker 67 Her and Baby Dale, woohoo, best buds now.

Speaker 54 But didn't you say that about.

Speaker 80 No, I didn't.

Speaker 54 They're best buds, so go out and buy that.

Speaker 80 My dogs and cats are best friends. That's awesome.

Speaker 8 And always have been. And it also shows you have no fear.

Speaker 67 None.

Speaker 34 None. Just get back on that horse.

Speaker 50 Yeah, really.

Speaker 34 Otherwise, you'll never be able to put your cat

Speaker 34 as your dog again.

Speaker 80 I do have a double dose of PTSD, one from the gunshot wound, and one from leaving my animals together. Now, if we go somewhere, we definitely don't have the cats and dogs in the same that's smart.

Speaker 8 That's smart.

Speaker 34 So, I also wanted to talk to you while you're here about your beloved Jaguars, who seem to be doing all the right things. They hired Byron Leftwich a couple days ago.

Speaker 34 As reported by me, they signed him officially. He's doing some other interviews just to, you know, just to kind of like get his name out there a little bit.

Speaker 34 I think the Jaguars are the first coach to ever have their current head coach taking interviews with other teams.

Speaker 80 Yeah, the Jags are kind of an abomination to the Lord right now.

Speaker 34 God hates Jags.

Speaker 46 Well, it's smart because what he's doing is

Speaker 42 he's going out there and he's finding out about other teams. He's getting an inside source.

Speaker 53 I don't think it's.

Speaker 80 What I really think happened, I think I fucked the Jags again.

Speaker 80 Like whenever it first happened and I got Adam Schefter to report that Olivier Vernon was going to sign with the Jags, I later found out from people that work with the Jags, you honest to God probably cost the Jags signing him because his agents saw it, they saw the numbers and they went back to the Giants and like this is the number.

Speaker 80 He got a little bit more than that number.

Speaker 80 I've been told by people in the Jags that were in the GM spots, like those offices, that it could have cost them. I legitimately think it's possible that I did that with Byron Lefwich, too.

Speaker 8 That's true.

Speaker 80 That they were about to go over the finish line, and the only thing that was left was them to really sign the contracts to figure out when Trent Balky was going to leave. And now it might not happen.

Speaker 26 Everyone's been saying that that Byron Lefwich wants to be the Jags head coach, but only if Balky goes.

Speaker 53 Yeah, because everybody hates Balky, apparently.

Speaker 80 Like everyone in the NFL, except for like four or five people. Urban Meyer.
Urban Meyer hates him.

Speaker 8 No, Urban Meyer likes him.

Speaker 80 No, Urban Meyer said he would tolerate him.

Speaker 67 Oh, okay.

Speaker 80 Because Urban Meyer, like Shad asked Balky, from what I understand, he asked Balky if Urban Meyer, if he wanted to stand with Urban Meyer.

Speaker 80 Urban Meyer was like, I don't know if he's going to fit in the NFL, but I will stay if I can be the GM. So he stayed as the GM.

Speaker 80 Urban Meyer was like, I just want somebody that's been around the NFL for a while. I have it.
Urban Meyer didn't do any of the hiring for his coordinators or anything like that.

Speaker 80 It was all Trent Balki people that he went out and got.

Speaker 80 It wasn't Urban that even ran his coaching circuit.

Speaker 68 So when he said, when he called them all losers, that actually he's allowed to do.

Speaker 8 Because he didn't pick them. Yeah, Balky's losers.

Speaker 34 Why does Trent Balki have the job that he has right now?

Speaker 80 I have no idea. He must have like dick picks or something.

Speaker 38 Well, he did an okay job with the Niners.

Speaker 80 No, he didn't. Like when you look back at who he drafted with the Niners,

Speaker 34 I think it was Scott McLuhan that did those drafts.

Speaker 50 Yeah, he got up the roster.

Speaker 67 Right.

Speaker 80 He came into a good roster, and then he had a good roster. Because remember when San Francisco went on that run, everybody was like, San Francisco was built for a decade.
Yeah.

Speaker 80 They have all these young studs. Yeah, they have all of them.

Speaker 80 Joe Staley, they had a great offensive line. They had a great defensive line.

Speaker 67 And they were going to stick around forever.

Speaker 80 And then Balky started drafting all the players with torn ACLs. So instead of keeping young talent, they were like, this dude's a superstar, but he has a torn ACL, and they were banking on that.

Speaker 80 And then with free agency, he never wanted to go out and make a free agency splash because he believed in building to the draft and all that, which is great, but you have to supplement.

Speaker 80 And he didn't want to.

Speaker 3 He was the GM, according to this, 2011, of the Colin Kaepernick when he drafted Kaepernick in the second round.

Speaker 8 Yeah, he was.

Speaker 21 And Alden Smith was a good pick, obviously had issues.

Speaker 80 His draft picks this year, like Campbell, the corner from Georgia, he played poorly the first four or five games. Easily one of the best rookie corners in the NFL after that.

Speaker 80 Like he was a pretty shut-down corner for this Jags defense. He also drafted Little from Sanford, and he was, that dude had missed like two straight years, and he's come in and played great.

Speaker 80 He might even beat out Cam Robinson if they don't bring him back for left tackle.

Speaker 34 And then you get Travis Atienne back next year.

Speaker 80 Atien comes back next year, too.

Speaker 34 So out of the remaining coaches, if for whatever reason, some weird, wacky reason, Byron Lefwich decides to not coach your beloved Jaguars, who are you thinking it's going to be? Who do you want?

Speaker 80 I said when the whole search started that the top three guys were probably Doug Peterson, Jim Caldwell, and Byron Lefwich.

Speaker 48 Those are the ones that I've got.

Speaker 34 I think Doug would be a good choice.

Speaker 80 Personally, of all of them that I think will make the biggest impact, it would be Caldwell.

Speaker 80 Like, I think Caldwell coming in, being that steady voice, he's been in the league for a long time, probably go out and get, like, Pep Hamilton to be the offensive coordinator, somebody like that that has developed quarterbacks too, Put that in, draft Neil number one overall from the left tackle from Alabama.

Speaker 80 Get him to come in as the left tackle. And then I honestly, like, I've done those PFT mock drafts.

Speaker 80 Top wide receiver available for the rest of the draft.

Speaker 43 Do you know what he?

Speaker 11 So what you're saying now is you're not looking for a new quarterback.

Speaker 67 No, no. And how dare you?

Speaker 67 I'm just asking.

Speaker 80 There's so many people that are like, he should demand a trade.

Speaker 53 Shut up, demand a trade.

Speaker 70 No, you shouldn't demand a trade.

Speaker 8 It's one year.

Speaker 42 No, Jaguar is a bust.

Speaker 34 Jaguar should cut him.

Speaker 80 Oh, you motherfucker.

Speaker 11 Trevor Lawrence has been discussed.

Speaker 5 I didn't say that.

Speaker 12 Billy's theory actually turned out to be kind of true that Trevor Lawrence had never lost before, and it's going to be tough for his rookie year.

Speaker 80 I will say, paying attention to the Jags, which you guys clearly don't do.

Speaker 8 The Jags.

Speaker 80 This guy, Trevor Lawrence, was essentially like a front office dude this year, too.

Speaker 80 Like, he would answer questions, even when Urban, the offensive coordinator, when Beville Beville wouldn't, he would answer questions like from the franchise's perspective as a rookie.

Speaker 80 Like he was way more impressive than I thought he would be.

Speaker 8 Okay.

Speaker 28 So you're still high on Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 8 That's good.

Speaker 80 It's tough to be a quarterback when you don't have anyone who can even I'm giving you shit.

Speaker 49 I think he's still going to be fine.

Speaker 6 But there has been conversations on this podcast about him maybe being a bust.

Speaker 80 I think he makes some throws that are just unbelievable.

Speaker 34 I think he might be a bust. I'll be honest with you.

Speaker 73 I've said it before.

Speaker 34 The last game was nice. The game that he had against the Colts.
Walk us through that. That was like your Super Bowl this year.
Tell us about your Super Bowl, chaps. You beat the Chaps.

Speaker 8 No, I don't think

Speaker 67 that was our Super Bowl.

Speaker 80 I think beating the Bills was our Super Bowl.

Speaker 8 Oh, 96?

Speaker 50 Yeah, that was a great game.

Speaker 34 That was a good game.

Speaker 15 If the Bills had won that game, it would have been a home. They would have been at home versus the Chiefs.

Speaker 80 So we ruined their season. They would have been at home against the Chiefs, and the Colts would have made the playoffs.

Speaker 8 Wow.

Speaker 82 My pinky would have been gone.

Speaker 48 Possibly.

Speaker 8 Colts look good.

Speaker 80 I'm so confident that Trevor Lawrence isn't a bust if they don't make the AFC championship in, I'll say on his rookie.

Speaker 8 Be careful.

Speaker 80 Yep.

Speaker 80 I will get

Speaker 67 four years.

Speaker 8 Oh, my God.

Speaker 80 I'll do four years. We don't even have to do five years.
We'll do five years.

Speaker 8 But it's all right, but

Speaker 8 I will come up,

Speaker 80 wherever we're recording, I will go both of my big toenails removed.

Speaker 25 Oh, wow.

Speaker 8 By Billy?

Speaker 80 Sure, but I got to get the painkillers. I'm not doing it straight.

Speaker 8 Yeah, Billy. No, you're painkillers in one.

Speaker 8 One let me address you.

Speaker 21 Okay. So we have a test case of how pain.

Speaker 38 He's got to get to the AFC championship game in the next four years.

Speaker 54 That's.

Speaker 34 You're insane. This is the Jaguars we're talking about.

Speaker 8 Blake Boros isn't walking through that door.

Speaker 50 They just did it.

Speaker 8 Chapsey.

Speaker 82 What? As your lawyer,

Speaker 18 I advise you not to do this.

Speaker 8 I'm going to do it.

Speaker 18 If you're a friend and someone who wants to see you in pain, I advise you to do it.

Speaker 34 Now, what about Trevor Lawrence's long hair, though? We've discussed all the time on this show. You can't win a Super Bowl if you're a quarterback with long hair.

Speaker 80 I think he's a trendsetter. I think he can.
I think he's that guy, but I also feel like there's going to be a time. I wouldn't be surprised when he turns like 25.

Speaker 80 He's like, look, that's a young man's game.

Speaker 8 Whoa, is that how he talks?

Speaker 80 He's got a deep voice.

Speaker 8 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 37 Hey, Trevor, how'd you like having urban at round?

Speaker 87 It sucked. It wasn't great.

Speaker 11 Hey, Trevor, some people are calling you a bust.

Speaker 80 Imagine going from Dabo to urban.

Speaker 34 Because Dabo's a mile a minute.

Speaker 80 And Dabbo ain't fingering nobody's butthole.

Speaker 8 No. Maybe Jesus.

Speaker 34 Got the crucifix right up there. Right.

Speaker 73 Yeah, no. That's sacrilegious.

Speaker 34 I'm sorry for saying that.

Speaker 11 It should be. All right.
So what else is going on in your world?

Speaker 81 Because the roasts, for everyone to understand, we have one single roast because they don't update.

Speaker 54 Apple doesn't update.

Speaker 23 Next time, we'll have the roast that were submitted this time.

Speaker 12 We can read the one roast, but what else is going on?

Speaker 20 We just want to catch up with you.

Speaker 71 We love you.

Speaker 8 I don't have a whole lot going on.

Speaker 80 I'll be honest.

Speaker 71 All right, so don't say that. Why? To like, Dave, I've heard that doesn't work.

Speaker 67 Oh, you want like a work update?

Speaker 8 I'm like, I'm doing some fucking podcasts. Like, who cares? Nice.

Speaker 80 I'm doing military podcasts, still, still doing that. Podfather is very fun.
We got a new channel called Barstill Grown Up.

Speaker 60 I saw that.

Speaker 80 And Large is giving out some of these cooking tips. Unbelievable.
Makes it easy, even for the dumbest people, to do it. I got to hop on it.

Speaker 67 I'm back in on Kool-Aid.

Speaker 8 Yeah. Oh.

Speaker 8 Did you tell?

Speaker 80 Well, I would notice I was getting back up there in LB's.

Speaker 72 Oh.

Speaker 80 I had put on probably around 25 pounds, and I think it was because I was hugely back into soda.

Speaker 8 I've been wanting to get it.

Speaker 8 It has

Speaker 67 squirted. No,

Speaker 80 no, no. I'm talking squirt Kool-Aids.

Speaker 8 Okay. Oh, the little, they call them cordials.

Speaker 80 Yeah, like those little things, not actually

Speaker 80 putting the sugar into the Kool-Aid, not doing that.

Speaker 47 Just a little quick squirt bottle.

Speaker 8 What about water?

Speaker 80 I don't like that water much.

Speaker 68 Just water?

Speaker 34 Water doesn't do it for you? What about this water's good, though?

Speaker 8 Some water. New York water.

Speaker 80 Yeah, I like that water. It's fine.
But I want flavor, and then I would always go to like a Dr. Pepper or something like that.
So So I've been back in on Kool-Aid big time.

Speaker 19 That's great though that you just can cut that out like I always wish that I drank soda or beer or too much of that stuff so I could be like oh, I'm gonna lose some weight by just cutting it out unfortunately I just eat like shit.

Speaker 80 Well, it's because I've been addicted to that thousand pound sister show really all the super fatty shows I've been just consuming non-stop. Do they lose weight? Some of them.

Speaker 80 And it's hilarious when they do because they think they look awesome and it gasses me up. Like they are so confident that it just feels good watching it.

Speaker 34 Yeah, you used to watch the biggest loser show, no, Jillian Michaels, because I felt like they did a lot of fat shaming.

Speaker 34 So, they did, they did, and there was like a real, I enjoyed the show for like five years. I got really into the biggest loser because it was inspirational.

Speaker 34 People lose, you know, 53% of their body weight over the course of like nine months through working out and eating healthily through, you know, for the first time in their life.

Speaker 34 But then the last one that I saw, this girl lost probably 60% of her body weight. And she came out at the reveal at the end, and she looked like she was going to die.

Speaker 34 And everybody in the audience was like,

Speaker 34 I don't think that we should, we should probably not clap for this. And then they just took the show off the air.
It's like

Speaker 80 Kelly from the office when she just starts drinking like hot honey so she can get into a

Speaker 67 bathing suit.

Speaker 80 It's the same type of thing where eventually it gets a little bit unhealthy, but watching them and how they get that spot is just...

Speaker 80 It's an eye-opener. Because you could see you drink one soda, you drink two.

Speaker 80 Next thing you know, you're sitting in a recliner, you can't move, and you're pissing on on a puppy pee pad, and you've drank like 24 Mountain Dews.

Speaker 31 Yeah, just drink more water, right?

Speaker 34 That's a good solution. Just drink more water, you'll be healthier.
But don't drink three gallons a day, like that psycho that tweeted at there's no way that is three to four gallons a day,

Speaker 31 you would die drowning yourself.

Speaker 80 Yes, I tried to look up what the world record is for water consumption in a day, but it gets to the point where they're like anything over two and a half gallons is incredibly dangerous.

Speaker 8 Yeah, yeah, you're not going to be able to do it. And if you do that for three, four gallons a day for a year, that's crazy.

Speaker 34 You die. Apparently, if you drink that much water, you feel like you're high, and then you just die.

Speaker 8 What's that? Yeah, like hydroglycemic, right? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 34 Because it floods your cells.

Speaker 34 The sodium content of your blood and your body dips so low that you're not even thinking straight. It's almost like you're climbing a mountain without oxygen.
You get hypoxia, I think.

Speaker 80 Yeah, they changed the rules at boot camp because at boot camp, at the end of the day, they always talk about drinking water.

Speaker 34 There's soft, huge piss charts everywhere.

Speaker 80 Like, where are you at? Are you a good teammate? You're going to be a good teammate.

Speaker 80 You want to be a good teammate who doesn't so everybody stands online at the end of the night and they'll have two or three canteens and you're supposed to down them well people are doing that so much and getting forced water so much people were getting sick with hydroclycemia oh that's soft the chinese army doesn't do that no they don't do that they don't do that they embrace them they drink water like a motherfucker

Speaker 8 they love water

Speaker 24 what are your thoughts on water boarding

Speaker 80 um it's not fun It hurts a lot.

Speaker 4 To give it or to take it?

Speaker 29 To receive.

Speaker 18 Have you done that?

Speaker 8 Yeah, I've done it. Oh.

Speaker 5 What about giving it?

Speaker 80 Never given wait what does it feel like like so you did it as a as a training how long did you do it for um just to see what it felt like and it wasn't even supervised it was just me and some buddies just chilling um and we were in okinawa we just took turns doing it tie yourself down put the the rag over your mouth and you just have somebody pour water over you and it feels like you're legitimate and only drowning holy it's not fun no i thought it was gonna be fun when i did my buddies i was like okay this will be this will be a cool thing that we can laugh at and then i you just panic yeah it does feel like you're you're underwater.

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Speaker 70 Billy? Beerboarding is also not fun.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I would, yeah.

Speaker 68 That's good that you learned that on your own, though.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 30 Everyone's got to go through their, they got to find their way on their own.

Speaker 66 Don't put it.

Speaker 67 Never mind.

Speaker 34 Just don't beerboard yourself.

Speaker 3 All right, so chaps, you got podcasts.

Speaker 54 You've got

Speaker 24 longtime tulies.

Speaker 23 Anything else that we're catching up with you?

Speaker 20 You want to give us a a big time Tommy?

Speaker 67 Sure. What do you want?

Speaker 13 I don't know.

Speaker 14 Anything to get us motivated.

Speaker 34 He's going down to Del Rey Beach.

Speaker 53 Oh,

Speaker 8 you want me to find a motivational quote?

Speaker 36 He tags me every now and then.

Speaker 34 Did you see the video of him diving straight up into the snow? No, I didn't. So you got to check it out.
It's on his Instagram page. He's like, I'm getting out of New York.

Speaker 34 I'm going big time Tommy's going down to Del Rey, Florida, where I can drive my Cadillacs and smoke my cigars.

Speaker 34 And they just did a straight-up face plant into the snow and came up just looking like the grizzly bear from the I Fucking Love Cocaine meme. It was awesome.
awesome.

Speaker 80 I wish we would do something together. I feel like him and I

Speaker 80 we could just motivate the world just to be a Spider-Man meme.

Speaker 8 What's he liking the part of my take Instagram posts?

Speaker 80 He tags me every now and then in random posts that I don't know where does he get all these cars?

Speaker 8 Are they all his?

Speaker 8 Or is he like big car dealers?

Speaker 34 He's old school. No, he's big time.

Speaker 8 But I think it's more old school.

Speaker 54 Big time motors would be huge.

Speaker 34 Big time motors? Come on down. See big time.
You're getting fucked when you go to that dealership.

Speaker 8 He's got all the motors. You're not getting the market for a new Cadillac.

Speaker 43 Come on, down to big time movies.

Speaker 8 He's got like 10

Speaker 34 dollar signs on both of his arms. He's like, I'll give you the greatest deal in town.

Speaker 85 He's got like old school Cadillacs and stuff.

Speaker 44 It's fucking, he's a classic.

Speaker 80 With every car, you get a 24-inch TV because that's the old school way.

Speaker 3 All right, give it to us.

Speaker 29 All right.

Speaker 80 This is a ballet motivational quote:

Speaker 15 Successful people aren't born that way. They become successful by establishing a habit of doing things unsuccessful people don't want to do that's the old school way OS for life ticketies

Speaker 8 what about Liver King

Speaker 80 How's Liver King doing Liver King I'm out on Liver King why I feel like Liver King has become no not canceled but he's so self-aware now oh like Liver King you're not fucking putting a sled out and pulling it with your teeth because you read about the mandibles of our ancient ancestors.

Speaker 80 That's not what you're doing.

Speaker 80 for the clicks have you seen the ones where he sleeps on essentially a cedar pallet like he's got his bed in his room which first of all he said he put some paint up that's wi-fi proof because that's not our ancient ancestors would never have wi-fi in their room that's true that's a fact that's how it is true they also didn't have rooms no and then he he doesn't even have wi-fi at his house but he'll have like a thousand foot cord of cat five like cord that he pulls out into the into the middle of his yard and that's where he does his business amazing like that seems to be bad too But he's got this pallet that's like two feet off the ground that's made from wood, and it's got maybe a half an inch thick mattress.

Speaker 80 And he's like, This is where me and Liver Queen get it on.

Speaker 8 Damn, dude.

Speaker 8 What do you say, Billy?

Speaker 70 Liver King, low-key, a business genius. Yes.
Because he's figured out how to sell. He's a rancher.
He's figured out how to sell the one part of cattle that was the hardest to sell and organ meat.

Speaker 70 And then he grinds it up. And like the returns on one liver must be insane.
How much time?

Speaker 80 Oh, yeah, because I bought some. I bought some of the ancestral liver pills.

Speaker 64 And how did it make you feel?

Speaker 26 Oh, it gave me diarrhea.

Speaker 8 But you had diarrhea. Resting swimming.
But it like upped it. It was like

Speaker 80 here we go. It was like diarrhea that went from being like a Heisman trophy winning quarterback in college, and then they stepped on the NFL for the field, and the whole speed is just completely.

Speaker 34 So velocity increases.

Speaker 34 Velocity and volume?

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 69 Diarrhea had diarrhea.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 80 I mean, you don't see Ed Reed coming across the middle when you're at LSU.

Speaker 8 You just don't.

Speaker 34 Yeah, fuck. That sounds pretty cool, though.
The liver supplements? What do cows eat, though, that they would need to have a great liver? I feel like cows don't get fucked up.

Speaker 80 I don't know what they would need that liver for, Billy.

Speaker 70 Cows got like seven stomachs.

Speaker 50 Yes, true.

Speaker 34 Yeah, but just the one liver, so it just works overtime.

Speaker 8 And the liver is probably enormous.

Speaker 80 Have you seen the ones whenever they pull it out and put it on a picnic table? It'll be like, it's legitimately the size of a pig.

Speaker 34 I've not seen that. No.

Speaker 80 Be like, it's a crap. That's got to be a 90-pound liver, you think?

Speaker 8 Oh, I love it.

Speaker 70 liver king puts them on his shoulder and they're about the same size of his whole torso yeah i would say it's probably a 90 pound liver jesus christ that's a lot of a lot of liver pills you can sell a lot of diarrhea

Speaker 34 but well you're probably not doing the simulated hunts though No, not nearly as much as I should.

Speaker 80 You're absolutely right.

Speaker 34 So then the pills probably don't. No, the pills probably don't have the right effect on you.
No, they wouldn't. Because you haven't embraced the entire Liver King Primal program.

Speaker 80 And just here now, because we all, every time I come on, I feel like we're very honest.

Speaker 80 I haven't done a lick of a super serious Saturday simulated hunt. I haven't done one

Speaker 80 where we go super, what does he call it? Going super savage mode on Saturdays.

Speaker 67 Oh, no.

Speaker 80 I haven't done a single one of those.

Speaker 75 Oh, that's why the liver pills don't work.

Speaker 67 Probably.

Speaker 67 You're just not doing it right.

Speaker 80 No, I haven't eaten nary a single fermented chicken egg.

Speaker 6 Oh, this stuff, man. This guy's slacking.

Speaker 70 I've been doing simulated hunts with my dog and Ben Mintz on the weekends.

Speaker 8 I simulated it. Hunting who?

Speaker 57 Mints.

Speaker 70 Mints? Mints gets simulated prey. So I make, I give him a like a 10-minute head start and he goes and runs.
And then I have this new leash with my dog that wraps around my waist.

Speaker 70 So hands-free and then he runs. So then we go looking for him in the city? No, no, this is in where we live, in the neighborhood.
So he gets

Speaker 8 a city. Yes, but

Speaker 33 it's like...

Speaker 8 It's a little...

Speaker 47 It sounds like it was the wood.

Speaker 34 It's not legal to do that in New York, but it is in Jersey.

Speaker 70 It's sort of like a hide and seek game, but...

Speaker 49 Then you wrestle. How many times have have you done this?

Speaker 70 Like once for you see Ben got a little too tired and it got a little too cold.

Speaker 55 So he was just sitting there like out of breath on a park bench?

Speaker 34 Exactly.

Speaker 70 So I thought he'd be moving, but Ben, it's

Speaker 80 did you put anything of Ben's around your dog?

Speaker 9 No, so what we tried to do?

Speaker 70 What we did is we put a little treats in his pocket and made him smell before.

Speaker 34 It's quite the scene.

Speaker 70 Yeah. You know, you got to get him in shape some way.
And I have a theory that the fear might up his metabolism.

Speaker 54 That's a that's I think that's a fear.

Speaker 53 You know what I'm I'm saying.

Speaker 80 Have you trained your dog how to attack at all?

Speaker 8 I think that would be a

Speaker 34 little aggression.

Speaker 8 Nah, I'm just

Speaker 70 food motivation as opposed to because then if Ben has to come feed him and he's like Ben's prey,

Speaker 48 yeah, you got a problem.

Speaker 34 Well, you would feed him, be good content, yeah, yeah, and he would just treat him like a cat.

Speaker 8 Yeah,

Speaker 8 damn,

Speaker 87 that was that was mean. That was something.
Sorry,

Speaker 55 don't leave Billy's dog and Ben Mintz alone together.

Speaker 34 Chaps, do you have any questions for us? Anything you need to get off your chest while you're here?

Speaker 80 Do you guys think Joe Burrow is actually cute?

Speaker 8 No, not cute.

Speaker 34 He's devastatingly attractive.

Speaker 80 But do you think he's sexy or is it his

Speaker 80 personality

Speaker 80 that makes him sexy?

Speaker 80 I feel like it's more personality than just straight up look.

Speaker 34 I don't think that he would be as attractive if he had a different personality with that look. I think the look and personality work together symbiotically.

Speaker 78 I think he's a good-looking dude, and then the personality makes him a great-looking dude.

Speaker 80 Yeah, because when he shows up in those Cartier glasses and he has that coat on, you just want to pull that thing out.

Speaker 73 Give it a little suck.

Speaker 80 I mean, no matter who you are.

Speaker 8 Confidence,

Speaker 8 a tiny little kiss.

Speaker 53 Yeah.

Speaker 72 Maybe not even a suck.

Speaker 34 Just a lick.

Speaker 80 If you win a Super Bowl in Cincinnati,

Speaker 80 do you think that's the best spot that you could win it right now in Buffalo?

Speaker 67 Buffalo. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 8 Buffalo, Detroit, probably up to the five.

Speaker 67 Buffalo, I think.

Speaker 80 But it's in the top five. Yeah.
Cincy, Jacksonville, Buffalo.

Speaker 8 Don't.

Speaker 34 I don't know if I'd say say that. I don't know.

Speaker 8 Jacksonville's not there.

Speaker 80 Yeah, if you win a Super Bowl in Jacksonville, you're a king forever.

Speaker 34 I think that credit goes to their head coach Byron Lefwich for turn of the franchise right now.

Speaker 80 That might be true.

Speaker 5 I think it would be

Speaker 38 Cincy, Cleveland, Detroit, Buffalo.

Speaker 64 I actually, I do think if you won it in Chicago, because look what they fucking, look what everyone talks about the 85 Bears.

Speaker 80 But you guys have won.

Speaker 45 Right, but like the I always say like the punter from the 85 Bears sells cars.

Speaker 12 You know what I mean?

Speaker 80 So if Rex Rex Grossman won it, do you think

Speaker 8 he would have

Speaker 34 Dallas Cowboys, if you win a Super Bowl for the Cowboys, you become a thing for the rest of your life.

Speaker 62 That's a very good one.

Speaker 80 I think it's Detroit, Buffalo, and Cincy.

Speaker 6 Oh, I think Detroit, Buffalo, and Cleveland are top three, Cincy four.

Speaker 34 Also, New England, until you turn your back on that franchise and your fans

Speaker 34 15 years down the line and forget about everything they did for you. But until that point, you'll be a legend there.

Speaker 15 20 20 years, but

Speaker 80 watching that just happen, like the Patriots fan just reading it. It's got to be coming soon.

Speaker 8 I thought there was going to be

Speaker 34 seven times the size coming.

Speaker 80 If it's a one-page note app, you're like, okay, well, he might not have been able to put

Speaker 53 those

Speaker 53 one.

Speaker 1 He just split it up.

Speaker 8 Into eight.

Speaker 54 That was awesome.

Speaker 37 I did think there was going to be one that was going to just be like, into Dave Portnoy,

Speaker 55 thank you for going to jail for me.

Speaker 8 Yeah. Like,

Speaker 71 also that blog post about my son.

Speaker 80 Maybe he should come on y'all show to explain.

Speaker 8 I agree.

Speaker 34 They had to go like this reading it. They're like, all right, Patriots, but nothing about Patriots.
All right, wait, nope, nothing about New England. Wait, how many more dots do I have?

Speaker 34 Okay, still four more dots.

Speaker 80 I mean, you could tell. Halfway through his part that he wrote about Bruce Arian, you could tell Brady was teared up.

Speaker 53 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 80 And that, like, you could see the shaking on him.

Speaker 35 I wish he hadn't threaded him.

Speaker 55 It would have been even funnier.

Speaker 11 They were just singing, you know, when someone tries to do a thread and they just fucking.

Speaker 80 Or the super annoying one where they'll quote, tweet it, and add more.

Speaker 47 So then you've got to go back fucking 20 years.

Speaker 8 Yes, like a Rex chapter.

Speaker 80 These prompts individual tweets, you can just go through their timeline. The other way is the most annoying.

Speaker 49 All right.

Speaker 1 Well, chaps, thank you, as always, for coming on.

Speaker 25 You want to pick a number?

Speaker 47 During the show. Yeah.

Speaker 80 I'm going to do number 21.

Speaker 34 I'm going to mix it up now.

Speaker 8 I'm going to do 21.

Speaker 80 Oh, is it bad luck to say it before it starts spinning?

Speaker 8 No.

Speaker 34 It's just bad luck in general. This machine is bad luck.
I'm going to say...

Speaker 8 Why is this machine bad?

Speaker 80 It's not.

Speaker 34 I kind of like it.

Speaker 8 44. I know like it's bad.
50. You're coming off a win.
I know. What the fuck? Why are you bashing this?

Speaker 50 I did.

Speaker 34 I said I kind of like it.

Speaker 70 69.

Speaker 34 Honestly, I still have PTSD. No offense, chaps.
From the Blake of the Year contest.

Speaker 16 56 for the Super Bowl.

Speaker 8 12.

Speaker 34 I'm going to go one.

Speaker 80 Come on. 21.

Speaker 8 Oh, whoa. Oh.
45.

Speaker 16 Billy's favorite favorite number.

Speaker 11 No, that's 46, right?

Speaker 34 No, he loves. 45.
He loves 45. He just loves all presidents.
Yes.

Speaker 34 Just a fan of the game.

Speaker 40 Huge.

Speaker 53 There you go.

Speaker 47 Love you guys.

Speaker 87 Love you.

Speaker 66 Do you get a fact, Billy?

Speaker 70 Llamas and Alpacas spit.

Speaker 8 Hey, I'm just. Did you know that? Yeah, dude.
It's hot. Fuck.

Speaker 80 I know so much about llamas and alpacas.

Speaker 76 What's your favorite one?

Speaker 67 Between the two? Yeah.

Speaker 80 More of an alpaca guy.

Speaker 48 Okay. They're cute.

Speaker 34 I think llamas are bigger, right?

Speaker 67 Yeah, and the alpaca's fur is a lot softer.

Speaker 80 Yeah,

Speaker 34 you can actually make a good amount of money raising alpacas in this country.

Speaker 80 Oh, buddy, you make an alpaca sweater?

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 80 You're swimming in cash.

Speaker 34 I think that's my retirement plan. I think I just move out to the country somewhere, get an alpaca farm.

Speaker 8 That would be awesome. I'll come too.

Speaker 70 Alpacas also ward off coyotes and predators. If you have like a flock of sheep, goats, you can't do that.

Speaker 73 Double fact.

Speaker 8 Throwing alpacas.

Speaker 34 That's got to be so confusing for the coyotes, though, because the coyote, if it sees an alpaca, is probably like, ooh, tasty treat.

Speaker 34 Alpacas look like they'd be great coyote food, right? They spit. They spit, they'll spit right

Speaker 16 out of the coyote.

Speaker 16 Trying away,

Speaker 16 I'll be coming for your love, okay.

Speaker 16 All in me,

Speaker 16 be gone

Speaker 16 until they were

Speaker 16 told.

Speaker 16 So feel less to say

Speaker 16 I'm hard to to dance.

Speaker 16 But I'll be hosting away.

Speaker 16 Slowly learning the land is okay.

Speaker 16 Stay after me.

Speaker 16 It's no better to be safe than sorry.

Speaker 16 Take

Speaker 16 on

Speaker 16 me.

Speaker 16 Take

Speaker 16 me

Speaker 16 on

Speaker 16 me.

Speaker 16 I'll be calling

Speaker 16 I'll be calling

Speaker 16 I'll be calling