Coach O, NFL Divisional Round Preview & Fyre Fest Of The Week

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Speaker 1 On today's part in my take, we've got Coach O back on the show. Great to catch up with him, talk a little Bengals, talk a little NFL playoffs, where he might be headed next.
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Speaker 1 We get into all of it. We're going to preview the NFL divisional round.
A great weekend of football ahead of us.

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Speaker 1 And boys,

Speaker 1 this divisional round, this weekend of football, this is the best weekend of football. We have four games ahead of us.
All four games look like they could be incredible games.

Speaker 1 We are going to wash ourselves of the stink of Super Wild Card weekend, which it's football, so we loved it. But let's be honest, it wasn't the best football.
This is going to deliver, though.

Speaker 1 I feel it in my bones. We are now PFT, you hate when I do this, but we have to do it.
Don't do it. No, no.
I mean, we have to do it. We have seven games left of football this year.
So enjoy it.

Speaker 1 You include the Pro Bowl.

Speaker 4 You never remember the Pro Bowl.

Speaker 1 I did not include the Pro Bowl. You always forget the Pro Bowl.
Seven games left and

Speaker 1 embrace it. Enjoy it.
Sit on the couch. Take in every single second of it.
It's going to be a great Saturday, a great Sunday. Getting excited for it.
Great times too. Three o'clock, 6.30 on Sunday.

Speaker 1 Let's do it. Let's talk about these games.

Speaker 4 Yeah, this is one of those weekends where I'm definitely not leaving my couch. I need an Apple Watch that that's going to buzz and like automatically check in on me to make sure I'm okay.

Speaker 4 You know how your TV does that? That's how you know that you're having a successful day.

Speaker 1 Are you planning on going swimming?

Speaker 4 Is if your TV checks in to see if you're alive. Am I going swimming?

Speaker 1 With the Apple Watch? Yeah.

Speaker 4 No, I'm not.

Speaker 1 If you get close to dying, you'll have your Apple Watch. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 Like, I want to be so lifeless over the course of this weekend. I want to be so stationary.
They might make you... My watch thinks I died.

Speaker 1 That would be funny if that were the new ad where it's like like I'm sitting on my couch in the 911's like, what's your emergency? I haven't moved in two days because football's.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you're like, this football action is so intense.

Speaker 1 And then the 9-1-1 operator is like, sounds like you're having a great time. And can I come over? Yeah, Apple Watch.

Speaker 4 And then they come over and they bring beer.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's perfect. And then you have a nice hang.
I actually did your job for you, Apple.

Speaker 4 I had a drunk idea, even though it wasn't a drunk idea because I'm basically doing dry January for a little bit here.

Speaker 4 It was that like on a great weekend, like this weekend,

Speaker 1 Bubba, are you okay?

Speaker 1 Well, basically, dry January for a little bit is a funny state.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of qualifiers.

Speaker 4 No, the last couple of weeks, I'm doing a hard reset on my body, pretty much.

Speaker 1 I did have like a little

Speaker 1 bit. Friday nights,

Speaker 1 Saturday mornings.

Speaker 1 Yeah, whatever.

Speaker 4 It makes a little bourbon in with your coffee on a weekday.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, I'm on a diet, except for Saturdays and also like Tuesday afternoons and a little bit here on Fridays.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so I'm pretty much sober almost. And so I had this idea, which is like, we need to bring back on big sports weekends like this, spirit days during the week, just for our nation.

Speaker 4 Because we need to all get on the same page. Remember like spirit days before homecoming? It would be like school colors day or whatever.

Speaker 4 Like have one day be Jersey Day where just everybody is going to

Speaker 1 dress up.

Speaker 4 Wearing a sports jersey. Or I was, so I'm a big advocate for Pizza Fridays, too.
Yep. Just we all get pizza.

Speaker 1 Pizza Fridays are great. Doing anything on a Friday afternoon where it's like tradition, like this is what we do is the best.

Speaker 4 And Sunday, Sundays where everybody has an ice ice cream Sunday?

Speaker 1 It's why I like to do Donut Saturday. Saturday morning, I look forward to it every Saturday morning.
Go to the donut shop with my son, and we just get a shitload of donuts.

Speaker 4 It's great. And I think that we need more things like that that pull us together as a society.

Speaker 1 I mean, I'm going to spirit days.

Speaker 4 Maybe hire a clown for everyone.

Speaker 1 It's just Football Friday. You just talk about football.
That's really what it is.

Speaker 1 It's beautiful. I hear my Friday

Speaker 4 today to be Football Friday.

Speaker 1 Talk about the game with someone in your office. Just be like, who do you like this weekend? Make a new friend.
Yeah. So let's talk about who we like.

Speaker 1 Let's do football friday right football friday all right so first game bengals titans titans are minus three and a half right now i think the over-under is 47 i want to say um quick note about this game if you didn't already think derrick henry is like the most intimidating badass guy in the world he's going to be back and he did he did his press conference earlier in the week and they asked him how he felt and he said uh he has a big steel plate in his foot but otherwise feels good yeah that's pretty chill.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 okay.

Speaker 1 Otherwise, I'm good, like, I'm half robot, but otherwise I'm feeling fine.

Speaker 4 So I saw Pro Football Doc tweet about that, and he goes, the thing about Derrick Henry's giant steel plate that he has in his foot is it remains to be seen whether or not he will be able to run 100% on that.

Speaker 4 It's like, what the fuck? Like,

Speaker 4 he's basically Voltron.

Speaker 1 It's just like crazy. Like, we complain if we get a fucking hangnail.
Yeah. And he's got a steel plate in his foot.

Speaker 4 And he's like, yeah, besides that thing besides being half terminator i feel good as somebody that's had the same surgery derrick henry had i wasn't able to jack off eight weeks after i had it yes yes with your feet yeah little little foot job uh no this is going to be a fun game i think i so we're not supposed to respect the titans we're supposed to do coach rabel that favor of uh keep overlooking them yeah um but i i actually don't think that i respect the titans this weekend i think it's it's coming natural to me i think that this is bengals are giving me somewhat team of destiny vibes right now.

Speaker 1 I'm fully respecting the Titans. I think the Titans are going to win this game.

Speaker 1 I think this is one of those spots where you always kind of forget, oh, yeah, the one seeds, and I'm going to basically contradict myself in a second when we talk about the Saturday night game because I want the Packers to lose.

Speaker 1 But the Titans are the one seed because they beat the Chiefs. They beat the Bills.
They beat all the good teams. They killed the Rams.

Speaker 1 And now they're finally healthy. I know Julio Jones is not what Julio Jones used to be, but A.J.
Brown and Julio Jones and Derrick Henry, I think the Titans are going to win.

Speaker 1 I think we're going to walk away from this game being like, oh, yeah, that's why they were the one seed. Rest, Vrabel off rest has been a really good coach.
I'm respecting the Titans.

Speaker 4 I think one thing we're all forgetting about Coach Vrabel, because he is, you know, as LaFleur was talking to us, he's a giant dude. He's an intimidating guy.
He looks like a meathead.

Speaker 4 He's actually sneaky, very, very smart. Yeah.

Speaker 4 He's one of the most intelligent coaches there is.

Speaker 4 And just because he's got like a giant, dumb-looking face that looks like he's going to kick the shit out of you at any given time doesn't mean that he's not also incredibly intelligent.

Speaker 4 All you had to see was the showdown that he had with him and Bill Belichick, where they were both figuring out how to change time, how to alter the course of time.

Speaker 4 And Vrabel ended up beating Bill Belichick at his mind games. Yes.
He's a smart dude. So

Speaker 4 he's going to have some shit up his sleeve this week. And I'm predicting, here's my prediction for this game.
There's going to be a fat guy touchdown. Ooh.
There's going to be a fat guy.

Speaker 1 Grables got something planned.

Speaker 4 There are almost too many fat guy touchdowns. I also,

Speaker 1 the Bengals are, I think, still banged. I know Trey Hendrickson cleared concussion protocol, but they lost a couple other linemen on the defensive side.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 I just, I think the Titans are going to be all up in that, all up in Burrow's ass. And I love Joe Burrow.
We'll talk to Coach O in a minute. We all love Joe Burrow.
We're a Joe Burrow podcast.

Speaker 1 I think that Titans' defense is getting slept on. Yeah, I'm remembering the Titans.
This is my weekend to remember the Titans. Hank, you like the Bengals?

Speaker 1 I do like the Bengals.

Speaker 1 I mean, I love both. I love Rabel.
I love Joe. I kind of agree with PFT, though.
Bengals do have a little bit of Team of Destiny vibes.

Speaker 1 That definitely could be just because we saw them play last week. We see the Titans play.

Speaker 1 I'm fully acknowledging that, but also Moneyline. Moneyline?

Speaker 1 I love a plus sign. Yeah, it's crazy.
Like, I would actually feel worse about the Titans if they were playing like the Jets or the Texans.

Speaker 1 Because if you look at their schedule this year and who they played and who they beat, they beat all the good teams that they played.

Speaker 4 Wait, didn't the Jets also beat the Bengals?

Speaker 1 Yes, the Jets beat Bengals. That's crazy.
This is the Jets bull, but they beat the

Speaker 1 Titans beat the Seahawks with Russell Wilson. They beat the Colts twice.
They beat the Chiefs. They beat the Bills.
They beat the Rams.

Speaker 1 They beat the 49ers that game where they were down at half. I don't know.
I think they're just, for some reason, it doesn't compute in our heads that the Titans just might be a very good team.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 I think Hank actually hit the nail on the head, at least when it comes to me and how I'm thinking about this game. It's the fact that I didn't see the Titans play last week.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 And I did see the Bengals. And it's very easy if even if the Bengal or if the Titans had played on Monday night, it's very easy to forget about the Titans by Sunday.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they should honestly start changing it for the bye weeks because I remember this used to happen to me every single year when it was two buys and you had two teams that didn't play.

Speaker 1 They should just post a score. Like they should be like the Titans beat the week 35 to 7.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? The starters beat the practice score

Speaker 1 to 0. Just to remind us, like, oh, yeah, they're really good because the reason why they have the one seed is they're really good.

Speaker 4 An injury update, they actually came out of the bye healthier than they did going into it.

Speaker 1 And the craziest thing, like, if the Titans went to the Super Bowl, it would be a shock to everyone, right? But I think there's no reason why.

Speaker 1 They beat the other two teams that they could go up against next week in the AFC Championship game. So I'm respecting the Titans.
Now, this could be be like the fatal blow for Titans fans.

Speaker 1 I feel like if they lose, I'm going to get a lot of the blame. I don't care.
I'm remembering the Titans.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm not. So I'll go ahead and give you that disrespect card that you can play on me.
I think the Bengals, they are like a little bit...

Speaker 4 The only thing that concerns me about them is that they're definitely in a position where if you asked anybody on that Bengals team or anybody that's a Bengals fan, would you look at the season as a resounding success?

Speaker 4 Yes. If you won a playoff game and lost in the second round to the number one overall seed.
Right. And you would say, absolutely.
I don't know if

Speaker 4 like Joe Burrow would admit that, but I know at the start of the season, I think their over-under for wins was five and a half. Yeah.

Speaker 4 A little behind the scenes, I told him that because I told him I was taking the over on it, and he was like, I'm absolutely going to get you that over on that.

Speaker 4 But I don't think that at the time he was like, you know what? I think that we have a real chance here to do some damage in the playoffs. But now that he's here, I don't know.

Speaker 4 It might be one of those things where it's like he feeds he feeds off the moment.

Speaker 1 But it is winning your first playoff game in 31 years is a franchise, and there's no letdown spots in the playoffs, but there has to be an emotional part of the game.

Speaker 1 It's what we talked about with the Bills, you know, beating the bully, beating the Patriots the way they did.

Speaker 1 There has to be a small part of you that's like, it's not the exact same intensity of trying to get that first playoff win at home in front of your fans.

Speaker 1 Also, if you look at the game against the Raiders, like that game was an even game.

Speaker 1 It's crazy to look back, but the Raiders had, you know, they made a couple big mistakes that, you know, fielding the punt at the two and the fumble that Derek Carr had.

Speaker 1 But like in terms of yardage and how the game went, that was a pretty damn even game. I just, yeah, I'm remembering the Titans.
That is what I'm doing. Anything from the couch, Jake or Billy?

Speaker 1 Any thoughts?

Speaker 5 Titans have always been a wagon. It's just they've been injured and banged up this season.

Speaker 1 It is going to be, it will be awesome if Tractor Cedo, like if Derrick Henry comes out with a steel fucking plate in his foot and runs for 200 yards, it's going to be awesome.

Speaker 4 He's lucky that it's a home game because you probably can't get through airport security with that, right?

Speaker 5 Only thing about the plate, I've been thinking about this a lot.

Speaker 4 Yes, he's healed up fast, but has his muscles adapted to the extra added weight of the steel.

Speaker 5 I'm not worried about the pain. I'm worried about the weight distribution on the foot.

Speaker 4 Wouldn't that make you stronger, though, if you're walking around with, for the last couple of weeks, with a giant plate in your foot?

Speaker 4 It's like you got some beans strapped up to your ankle that you're walking around building those muscles up.

Speaker 6 Whoever wins this game, the media next week will be like, the NFL doesn't want the winner of this game in this game, in the Super Bowl because of ratings.

Speaker 4 Yeah, good point.

Speaker 4 That's a good look ahead.

Speaker 1 Absolutely.

Speaker 6 Whoever wins this game is going to be like, Bills or Chiefs is better for you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we don't want Tannehill. And Burrow, you could say, I think Bengals would, if you were looking at just pure NFL, hashtag NFL rigged,

Speaker 1 like who do we want in the Super Bowl? You could make the argument, Burrow, with just being an up-and-coming Super Super Superman. They want Josh Allen or Mahomes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they want Josh Allen or Mahomes for sure. But yeah, the Titans are definitely

Speaker 1 in the list of, oh, man, the NFL will do anything to make sure Ryan Tannell doesn't start a Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so going into this game, I would say that if this game is going to be NFL rigged one way or the other, it's going to be NFL rigged in favor of the Bengals. Yes.
So get ready for that.

Speaker 4 We're predicting that.

Speaker 1 Which is rare to say.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Roger Goodell does not respect the Tennessee Titans.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's basically like, what other teams could the Bengals get the weight of the thumb of the commissioner on? I would say if you're playing in the middle of the day.

Speaker 1 Over the Saints. Everyone.
Everyone over the Saints.

Speaker 4 Yeah, everyone over the Saints. The Jets over the Patriots, probably, right?

Speaker 1 Obviously, right, obviously.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Or the Lions.
No, the Lions would be a feel-good story.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the Lions would definitely be... Yeah, people would like the Lions.
Texans. Texans, for sure.

Speaker 1 Although you could be like big market. You could sell yourself on, you know, Houston.
I don't know if you knew this, but Houston's what, the fourth biggest?

Speaker 4 The fourth biggest city in the United States.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we could do that game.

Speaker 4 Maybe the Panthers. yeah, Panthers.
No one cares about the Panthers. Yeah, um,

Speaker 1 I saw, didn't, didn't your former coach, Pep Hamilton, didn't he,

Speaker 1 he denied a request to interview with the Panthers?

Speaker 1 He's that's my coach, he's from Charlotte, that's my coach, yeah, and he's from Charlotte, like it's literally his hometown, and he's like, nope, no, thank you.

Speaker 4 I mean, he sees the writing on the way, Pep's a smart guy, he cut me, he knows football, yeah, okay, so he got invited to go interview for the Panthers job, and he said, well, let's see, um, it looks like Matt Rule's 100% going to be fired by the end of next year.

Speaker 4 Yes, so this seems like a real shitty job to take. I'll just wait six months, and then maybe you'll hire me

Speaker 4 in the not so distant future, but he'll have a job. Yeah, he just doesn't want to work there.

Speaker 1 It's just funny. I mean, I never, there was a Colts

Speaker 1 GM cam or Bears GM candidate from the Colts who took his name out of the hat, and I was like, Smart move. It's a very smart move.

Speaker 4 I was actually thinking about maybe dipping the pen and doing like a complete guide to a rebuild because I feel like one thing you should do when you bring in like a new GM new coach you change everything you should all commit a crime together so that you have to just you're forever bound together You're forever bound together.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like burning start a crazy email chain. Yeah, yeah, exactly send the most offensive memes you got like unload them everyone does it at the exact same time.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's like ookie cookie with a computer.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you got I mean, it's not a bad idea because then no one's you can always just hold it it over each other's heads and not try to backstab each other.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I have one piece. That's a smart thing to do.

Speaker 1 Yeah, one piece of blackmail per person. So, like, when you, you don't even have to commit it together.

Speaker 1 It's just you all show up, and part of your interview process is you have to hand over a piece of blackmail that they can then use against you.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and then everyone gets locked up in the same safe. Yep.
And then every time one of you guys dies, your key goes to the rest of the group until there's just one person left. I like it.

Speaker 1 I like it.

Speaker 1 All right. So next game, Saturday night.
Very excited for this game. Green Bay Packers, San Francisco 49ers.
49ers plus six. Over-under is, what, 47.5, I want to say.
My computer's acting very slow.

Speaker 1 Do you have it for us? That line moves, huh?

Speaker 4 47, 47.

Speaker 1 It's now back down to five and a half. Okay.
It's been bouncing around.

Speaker 1 It feels like Fred Warner and Bosa are both going to play, right? Yeah. Bosa hasn't officially cleared concussion protocol.

Speaker 4 My guess would be that he plays. Okay.
And then on the Packers,

Speaker 4 they've got two defensive guys. I think Smith, Zadarius Smith, was one of them.
And then somebody else that was questionable, but I think they're both going to be healthy.

Speaker 1 I have a fun stat for you because I basically went digging for stats to try to build up my confidence that the 49ers can beat the Packers on Saturday night.

Speaker 1 Since week 10,

Speaker 1 only three teams have averaged seven-plus yards per play per pass attempt. It is the Green Bay Packers, 7.2, the Kansas City Chiefs, 7.5,

Speaker 1 the San Francisco 49ers, 7.7. Didn't think that because you think running

Speaker 4 yardage?

Speaker 1 They have been very efficient passing the ball. I am a little worried about Jimmy G's thumb in the cold weather.

Speaker 1 But so again,

Speaker 1 all these things I'm saying are very biased because I've just tried to spin myself into a point where I'm like, yes, the 49ers are going to win this game.

Speaker 1 Week three when they played, remember, Debo Samuel wasn't fully featured in the offense like he has been, and it was Trey Sermon, not Elijah Mitchell.

Speaker 1 Trey Sermon, not as good of a running back as Elijah Mitchell.

Speaker 1 And that game came down to the wire. That was the Aaron Rodgers drove them for a field goal to win the game late when they were down 28-27.
I just think the 49ers always play them well.

Speaker 1 They play the Packers well. We've seen recent history.
I think it's going to be a close game. I'm excited for this game.

Speaker 1 I also will mention the Packers have a terrible special team, and hopefully that bites him in the ass.

Speaker 4 Yeah, good news if you're a 49ers fan, and especially a Mike McDaniel fan, their offensive coordinator. Wisconsin does have legalized recreational cannabis.
Okay. So he's going to be good to go.

Speaker 4 Beautiful. Beautiful, beautiful setup for them.
I think everybody's been saying it, but it's definitely true that the 49ers match up really well against the Packers.

Speaker 1 I'm a little worried.

Speaker 4 You know what part of it is, actually? Now that I'm saying, you know why I think they match up so well?

Speaker 4 Because I've got all those memories of Colin Kaepernick just, like, absolutely roasting the shit out of the Packers

Speaker 1 in Green Bay. Well, it was two years ago, too, though.
Remember the NFC championship game when Jimmy G had to throw it eight times and they beat him by like a million. Yep.
So

Speaker 1 they have, like, the Packers. If you're a Packers fan, you absolutely are scared of the 49ers.

Speaker 1 Past history and the fact that the Packers can be run on, and that's what the 49ers are going to try to do.

Speaker 1 I think there's two games this weekend that come down to like both these teams are equal, like equally great, great rosters, great teams, complete teams. And it's just a question,

Speaker 1 will the lesser quarterback make a big mistake? Like, it's this game and the Bucs Rams game. No, I think Aaron Rodgers is going to do pretty well.

Speaker 1 But like, that's what you're going into if you're a 49ers fan. You're like, can we survive a Jimmy G calamity? Even though he's been playing well, he had the calamity against the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 I'm also a little worried. I feel like Kyle Shanahan, great coach, but also maybe not the best situational coach like fourth quarter, making crunch time decisions.
We saw it against the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 Obviously, we saw it in the Super Bowl against the Falcons

Speaker 1 or the Patriots Falcons. I'm a little worried about that.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and it's going to be a little bit different this weekend going up against LaFleur, not McCarthy.

Speaker 1 Right. It's like McCarthy.

Speaker 4 Exactly. Mike McCarthy isn't waddling through that door.
Right. So you're dealing with an actual coach with an understanding of him.

Speaker 1 Although

Speaker 1 LaFleur does think that

Speaker 1 kicking a field goal down eight is a smart move.

Speaker 4 He does.

Speaker 4 He actually got a little testy about that.

Speaker 4 But in a way that I almost respect where he's, you can tell it annoys him, the fact that he did that. Yeah.
So he's just going down with a ship. He's like, I think he can't do it again.

Speaker 1 I think it was more testy of the fact that like the everyone, the traditional media won't say that to him now. They won't bring up that question now.
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 He felt like he's moved past it.

Speaker 1 It's been talked about, but obviously he knows that I'm going to bring it up. He knew that when he came on.
But yeah, I actually woke up the next day and I was like,

Speaker 1 Remember the time that I told Matt LaFleur that he can come on the show after he wins the Super Bowl? That's going to suck. Yeah.
He's just going to rub it in my face.

Speaker 4 I really like the Niners this week. I really do.

Speaker 4 I feel like Kyle Shanahan

Speaker 4 got the nerves out of the system. Last weekend was a nerves game for him where he, you saw it at the end.

Speaker 4 He almost botched that game.

Speaker 1 Did you see that picture, by the way, of

Speaker 1 fuck, who is it?

Speaker 1 Shit. Go ahead, Tank.
You say it. I'm going to try to find the picture.

Speaker 1 I was just going to say, going into last week, people, I feel like, have kind of underestimated and forgotten about the fact that the Niners, basically this same Niners team, went to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Like, they had the experience. Yep.
And they're probably better with, you know, Trenton. Debo Samuel.
Right. And are you, because who was the, who was the past two? Was it Emmanuel Sanders?

Speaker 4 No. It was to, yeah, it might have been to Sanders.
I think it was.

Speaker 1 I think it was like that's they have a big-time upgrade right now.

Speaker 1 And I think it's similar to like the thing you always bust my balls for when I was talking about Jared just because it was his first time in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 The first time you're in the Super Bowl is hard, but once you're there, it's like a going back there, it's easier and you have more hunger, I think, to win.

Speaker 1 Like, I think Jimmy G is going to be better off, you know, going forward, having gone there and experienced it and lost and all that stuff.

Speaker 4 Yeah, is it time we just flip the narrative on Jimmy G right now and just be like, if he wins this, he's been playing well.

Speaker 1 He has been.

Speaker 4 But just be like, it's ugly sometimes, but the guy's a winner. He just wins games.
That's all Jimmy G does is.

Speaker 1 If he wins this game, I think so.

Speaker 4 I think he becomes a winner.

Speaker 1 It's very similar, though, to the Matt Safford, where it's like they're good quarterbacks. Matt Safford is a better quarterback career-wise, just body of work.

Speaker 1 But they're good quarterbacks, but you just are always holding your breath. Like, will this, will the bad thing happen?

Speaker 1 And his thumb, like that pass to Greg Kittle, where it was a fumble after, but it wasn't a completion, that was a thumb pass. Like, he clearly can't grip the ball correctly.

Speaker 1 So, that made me a little worried. I found the picture.
It's Trent Williams, Cowboys fans flipping him off, and him just pointing and laughing in their face. I fucking love Trent Williams.

Speaker 4 Trent Williams is one of my favorite players. He's the best.
Always has been.

Speaker 4 He's been like the best left tackle in football, at least top three left tackle in football for about eight years in a row. And it's insane that he ever got out of D.C.

Speaker 4 Oh, speaking of getting out of D.C.,

Speaker 1 enough with the pictures.

Speaker 4 Can I just do my fire fest right now? Yeah.

Speaker 4 My fire fest is we're going to see pictures of Sean McVay, Kyle Shanahan, and Matt LaFleur everywhere reminding us that they were all on the same Washington football team staff in 2013. I get it.

Speaker 4 By the way, that's Deuce Gruden Erasure because Deuce Gruden was also an assistant on that team as the assistant strength and conditioning coach. But I I get it.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 4 Jay Gruden has a great coaching tree, and we made him the head coach instead.

Speaker 1 It's also, like,

Speaker 1 you're kind of telling on yourself, people. Dumb organizations do dumb things.
Yeah. Like,

Speaker 1 the fourth coach in the NFC is Bruce Arians, who I have my own personal history with,

Speaker 1 who didn't get hired by the Bears because he refused to do a fake press conference.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and I'm sure that we would have fucked up Sean McVay if we had hired him as the head coach.

Speaker 1 It's not, you could just, you could just cut out the picture and just say, like, there are dumb organizations. Here's a list of them.
And the Washington football team and the Bears are in that list.

Speaker 4 So, I mean, if you want to actually get into it, at the time, Kyle Shanahan was there because his dad was the coach, and people were all saying

Speaker 4 he was only there because of nepotism. There was like a big knock against him.
Then Shanahan gets fired, and Kyle gets fired too. So he got fired because his dad brought him in.

Speaker 4 His dad started to stink. He gets fired.
There was nothing that would have told you, like, keep this guy around unless you're a smart organization and you identified talent.

Speaker 4 And then with LaFleur, same deal. He goes with Kyle, right? And then there's McVay.
McVay got elevated to being an offensive coordinator under Jake Rudin.

Speaker 4 And so you're not going to fire Jake Rudin and hire like a 30-year-old Sean McVay. That's what a smart organization would have done.
We are not a smart organization. Ipso facto, we didn't do it.

Speaker 4 But I get it. Doi doi.
I get it. It's like Big Cat seeing the Deshaun Watson, Patrick Mahomes drafted in front of Mitchell Trubisky.
We're idiots. Yeah, we're morons.
I get it.

Speaker 4 But now they're just using our moronity as content, and it's everywhere. And it's very annoying to me on a personal level.

Speaker 1 Mitchell's like the hottest name on the market, by the way.

Speaker 1 Who is the coach of the 49ers that everyone's talking about, PFT? I saw you talking about him yesterday.

Speaker 4 Mike McDaniel. What's his story?

Speaker 1 Why is he here?

Speaker 1 Wait, were you here when we talked about him? I don't think Hank was here.

Speaker 4 No.

Speaker 1 He might have been. Yeah, so he's the offensive coordinator.
He's like a genius. I think you can say he's a genius.

Speaker 4 He's in Mensa. He's in Mensa.

Speaker 1 He's a genius.

Speaker 1 And on top of all of that, he's a very chill guy because I read a tweet that a reporter from the San Francisco area said for anyone who's looking to hire Mike McDaniel as their next head coach, just a heads up, he refuses to take an interview with any team that is in a state that doesn't have legalized weed.

Speaker 1 And he also. I'm not joking.
Like, that was a serious thing that was said. King.

Speaker 4 He's also the guy that greeted reporter Mike Jones by doing the whole like, who's

Speaker 1 that's a clip I saw.

Speaker 4 He's basically, he's the most Colorado person of all time yeah if you were to take the state of Colorado and just draw up a police sketch of a random citizen the only difference is like

Speaker 4 he would have like a blue heeler dog with him on the sideline and a couple forearm tattoos and he'd be holding a micro brew and he's also he I mean

Speaker 1 we're very stupid in the media if a coach shows even a little bit like a tiny little bit of personality everyone's like oh my god this is amazing yeah like like Brandon Staley who we like, who we'll have back on, but all you have to do is show that you're not Mike McCarthy.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Like you're not Mike McCarthy. You're not John Gruden when he's surly.
You're not, you know, fill in whatever list of coaches that show no personality.

Speaker 1 And everyone will be like, oh my God, this guy is a breath of fresh air.

Speaker 4 If you use a comb and you wear a shirt that kind of fits, reporters will be like, the young hot coach.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. Exactly.
Yeah. He's not even like, I mean, he's not like hot, but people will say he's hot.
Yeah, if you're because he's just, he doesn't, he's not overweight and bags under his feet.

Speaker 4 He doesn't have dip spit currently falling out of his chin here. Yeah, no, this guy is a real put-together guy.

Speaker 1 But the weed part is funny.

Speaker 4 The weed part is very funny. It makes him a chill, bro.
He's like Kyle Shanahan's understudy.

Speaker 4 He's been following him around for like seven years. I feel like Kyle has six of those guys.
It's just that he pays for the family.

Speaker 1 Every time he was on the staff, he was on that staff as well. Yeah, so he just follows in Kyle's shit.
He was like a ball boy or something.

Speaker 4 No, he was the wide receiver coach on that same Washington Redskins team that they keep shoving in my fucking face.

Speaker 1 All right, so we're going 49ers.

Speaker 4 Anything with 3-13, by the way.

Speaker 6 I see this game going two ways. One, a Packers blowout.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 6 Two, if the 49ers win, I think it's going to be a similar game script to the Joe Flacco at Denver game, double overtime. He's going to have a 50-yard touchdown pass

Speaker 1 if they win. Okay.
Dramatic pass. Just straight up calling it.
Okay, I like it. So if they win, he's going to have a big play.

Speaker 4 You know what I like? What is going on over here? Jake saw Billy's dildo prediction last weekend, and Jake's like, I got to step up my prediction game. I got it.

Speaker 1 Also, I like it. If you're

Speaker 1 in between commercials of this game, Jake will be calling the Vermont game 7 o'clock Saturday night. Well, you can watch the first half.

Speaker 6 I guess the Bengals Titans. Nah, that's all right.

Speaker 1 Titans will be killing it. Two TVs.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 But if you tweet about this game, people are going to be like, bro, NFL's on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I don't care. I will.
We'll watch two TVs. I'll walk into the fucking Lions den.

Speaker 4 I've watched every single game that Jake has called.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Appreciate Appreciate it.
I'm not going to stop. I'm not going to support.
All right.

Speaker 4 It's on mute, but I've had it on the TV.

Speaker 5 Billy. Aaron Rodgers in a two-minute drill to win the game.

Speaker 1 Ooh, so similar to week three. Exactly.

Speaker 4 Too much time left for Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 God, I would love for him to just throw a back-breaking interception. I am full-blown.

Speaker 1 People will say it's loser talk. I'm admitting I'm a loser, but like this.
The Packers not winning the Super Bowl is the most important part of my football season now that

Speaker 1 the Bears season has been over for months. That might be loser talk, but I embrace it.
Like, whenever I go full Duke hater mode, and they're like, you think about Duke all the time?

Speaker 1 Like, yeah, I don't care. Rin-free.
I like to do that. That's part of sports.

Speaker 1 It's not just rooting for your team, it's rooting against your enemies, rooting for terrible things to happen to your enemies. So I am full-blown rooting for terrible things to happen to the pack.

Speaker 4 I think the Niners win. I think they win outright.

Speaker 1 God, I hope so. Same.

Speaker 1 That's really bad.

Speaker 4 We're on the Niners.

Speaker 1 Really bad, really bad. I don't know.

Speaker 1 If you want to go with my computer model, I have the Niners winning this game about 35% of the time, but covering the spread 85% of the time.

Speaker 4 I looked at the deep numbers. I don't see a way they don't cover.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't. Well, 85% is pretty high.

Speaker 4 My deep numbers are just the uniform matchup.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's a great uniform matchup. Great uniform matchup.

Speaker 4 Okay, is it going to snow?

Speaker 1 I believe it's going to be too cold for snow.

Speaker 4 Is that a thing? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Too cold for snow.

Speaker 1 Yeah, when it gets really, really cold?

Speaker 4 Is it like too drunk to fuck?

Speaker 1 There's like, yeah, I'm pretty sure it gets too cold to snow.

Speaker 6 I just see cloudy. High of 21.
That's true.

Speaker 1 So it's not too cold to snow. Could change.
There is too cold to snow.

Speaker 1 I don't know if that's true. Can it be too cold to snow? No.
I'm pretty sure it can. No, no, no.
I mean,

Speaker 1 there's no moisture in the air. It's water.
Clouds have water in them, and then they fall. And when it's cold, it turns into snow.

Speaker 5 There are still certain conditions that can generate snowfall at extremely low temperatures.

Speaker 1 But it's very rare.

Speaker 1 It's rare to snow. Too cold for predictable snow.

Speaker 1 Can it be too cold to sell the answer? No, it cannot be too cold. I'm going to go with the snow.
I thought Big Cat was doing a bit with the too cold to sell.

Speaker 1 No, but it is definitely when it gets really, really cold. It's most likely not going to snow.
Too dry to snow real? Yeah. Too dry to

Speaker 1 not gonna snow. That's what I meant to say.
Most likely not gonna snow.

Speaker 4 But the reason I asked was because I feel like it's counterintuitive with the Packers. With these Packers, Aaron Rodgers doesn't play abnormally well in the freezing cold.

Speaker 1 So what is it? 21? Not like Brett Farvey's. That's not not that 21.
That's not that cold.

Speaker 4 No. That's that's you know.

Speaker 1 For Lambeau in January, that's like that's actually there'll be half the stadium will have their shirts off.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you know what that is? That's in that weird kind of in-between zone where you're not a pussy if you're an offensive lineman you wear sleeves. Right.

Speaker 4 Once it gets down into like the lower teens, then you have to take the sleeves off again.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And under 10, too cold to snow.

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Bucks.

Speaker 1 Okay, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday. If Saturday wasn't enough, Sunday is going to be incredible.
The Bucs and the Rams,

Speaker 1 3 o'clock.

Speaker 1 So similar to the Jimmy G conversation, I keep looking at this game. I think the Rams are very, very good.
I'm not going to discredit the Rams. They have guys everywhere.

Speaker 1 Obviously, the Bucs are Super Bowl champs, but it comes down to simple Tom Brady versus Matt Stafford.

Speaker 1 And I don't feel comfortable betting Matt Stafford in a playoff game when the other quarterback is Tom Brady. Who's more likely to make a back-breaking error that shifts the entire tenor of the game?

Speaker 1 I'm going to put it on Matt Stafford.

Speaker 4 I like that phrasing that you used there.

Speaker 1 No, no, the earlier one.

Speaker 4 That one was okay, but the first one that you said was the Rams have guys everywhere. They do.
They do.

Speaker 1 They have guys everywhere.

Speaker 4 I was thinking about all the different places, and there was a guy in that one. There's a guy in the defensive line.
There's a guy in the secondary.

Speaker 1 There's a receivers.

Speaker 4 There's a guy in the backfield. There's a guy in the backfield.
Everywhere. You know where there's not a guy.
There's one place. Safety.

Speaker 1 Oh, I was going to say between the ears, Matt Stafford. No, I actually, I like Matt Stafford in this matchup.
I mean, I'm Matt Stafford's going to be a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 4 He got magically healthier over the last four or five weeks. Remember that report that came out a a while ago saying every part of his body was injured and he hadn't told anybody about it?

Speaker 4 I thought for sure that was going to be a signal that he was going to suck for the rest of the year, but he's gotten better. And so I think I like Matt Stafford in this game.

Speaker 4 I don't necessarily trust the Rams secondary because they were playing Eric Weddell at safety. And no disrespect to the beard.
But, I mean, he's been out of football for like two and a half years.

Speaker 1 Yes, he has. And this is, I mean, once we get to the divisional round, there's no outcome this weekend weekend that would shock me.

Speaker 1 If the Rams go into Tampa Bay and kick their ass, I wouldn't be like, oh, my God, I never saw that coming.

Speaker 1 They got guys everywhere. They're really, really, they have the best defensive player, not named T.J.
Watt. Like, they have

Speaker 1 their wide receivers are insane. Cooper Cup, triple crown, everything.
Like, it's just Tom Brady,

Speaker 1 you just don't go against them in these spots. I don't know.
It's just, it feels...

Speaker 4 There are a lot of posts in Tampa for Odell, too, to be honest.

Speaker 1 There are a lot of posts. The one thing that concerns me, and you'll have to look at the, we're taping this obviously on Thursday, so we'll find out more on Friday after the injury report.

Speaker 1 Tristan Wurfs and Ryan Jensen are enormous for this game because you don't want to have a backup center trying to block Aaron Donald. You don't want to have a back.

Speaker 1 I mean, that backup left tackle who came in for Tristan Wurfs was so bad.

Speaker 4 So bad. He was so bad that Stephen Shea was like, I hate this game.

Speaker 1 Stephen Shea never says that. He loves

Speaker 1 the Bucks. He has ever been associated with the Bucks.

Speaker 4 He's the only bad player on the Buccaneers. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And so that, if those two guys are out,

Speaker 1 I think you can live with one of them being out because I also, like Tom Brady,

Speaker 1 every time you're like, oh, man,

Speaker 1 he's going to get smoked by the defensive line. You forget the fact that Tom Brady...

Speaker 1 time and time again in the playoffs will just be like, oh, I'm going to have one of those games where we just run up tempo and I throw it for five yards of completion and I string together 15 completions to score a touchdown on every drive.

Speaker 1 He can beat you that way where it's like, it doesn't matter if you have no offensive line. He'll just throw the ball so fast that you can never touch him.

Speaker 4 Well, the crazy thing is, Tom Brady can beat you no matter what you do on defense.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 4 He has the antidote to every single problem that you would put in front of him. It's just a matter of everybody else on the team doing their job and letting him get the ball from point A to point B.

Speaker 4 Because he's unbeatable.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 4 He's literally unbeatable. There's no defense that you can ever play against Tom Brady that will befuddle him, that will give you a better chance of beating Tom Brady.

Speaker 4 You can play defenses and put coverages out there that will give you a better chance of beating everybody around Tom Brady.

Speaker 4 But unless Tom, if Tom Brady is healthy, if he's on two feet and he's got an arm, he is able to beat you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and he's, yeah, I mean, it could be one of those games where we're just like, why haven't we heard Aaron Donald? Like, well, because they're passing the ball in 1.5 seconds.

Speaker 1 And it's just never even been a possibility that he could get touched.

Speaker 4 That being said, I like the Rams in this game.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Not plus three.

Speaker 4 Again, not because of Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 you mentioned the offense a lot i think the center is like ryan jensen that's that's a big piece he did come back in the game against the eagles yeah he did come back but he's not healthy yeah tristan wurfs came back and then had to leave again but yeah he did come back when tristan wurfs came back by the way it's like what what are you doing start antonio brown like there's a moment where we're like uh what's going on here antonio brown was absolutely right also i do think though the The Bucs defense, like if the Bucs are going to win the Super Bowl again, it's not going to be because of Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 They won the Super Bowl last year in part because of Tom Brady, but their defense played lights out. Their defense wrecked everyone on the path to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 It felt like they are finally healthy, finally back to that. Holy shit.

Speaker 1 Like the Bucs, when they're healthy and playing their best defense, they are, you can check the box of like violent defense, where it's every time they tackle someone, whether it be Levante David or Vita Vey or whoever's out there, they're like...

Speaker 1 They're actually trying to murder the person.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and Domino Desiree Revenge game, too. Yep.
So you got that factor going on. True.

Speaker 4 And also the Bucs running game was really good last year in the playoffs. Playoff Lenny might be back.
Playoff Lenny might be back.

Speaker 4 Who do they got? They got playoff Le'Veon?

Speaker 1 No, dude, our guy. Kashon Vaughn.
Oh, yeah, playoff Kashon. Fuck that guy.

Speaker 4 I hate the Bucs A being their running back.

Speaker 1 It's the worst. It's the worst.
It's so painful. And we were saying this just because we had props on it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, 100%. Because you can look ahead and know exactly when you're going to die in your bet 10 minutes before it happens, which sucks.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 4 I just want to see Le'Veon get out there a little bit. You remember remember when

Speaker 4 everybody in NFL media was staying up at night to figure out where L'Avion Bell was going to go as a free agent because he dropped a mixtape?

Speaker 4 And so you have like Pete Prisco listening to Le'Veon Bell's rap lyrics, trying to decipher them.

Speaker 4 He was really good for like three, four years. He was incredible.

Speaker 1 He's one of the best running backs. Absolutely.

Speaker 4 Killer Bees. But yeah,

Speaker 4 I think I like the Rams in this game. I know that there are a lot of reasons not to, but I'm also addicted to timing Tom Brady's demise.

Speaker 1 Max Kellerman.

Speaker 1 i've been wrong yeah repeatedly so now i just can't get off this bad take again if even if the rams win it's not going to be tom brady's demise be like the rams are a really good football team they're just a really good football team yeah but what people will definitely say like is this the end for tom bradys of course hank i agree with pft but again kind of similar to what you said big cat and out of respect for tom everything he's done for me and my family and my people I'm taking the Bucs, but I don't know.

Speaker 1 I'm in my head about it. I do think the Rams remove Tom Brady from the situation or remove Tom Brady, you know, being my hero from the situation.
I would probably take the Rams. But he is

Speaker 1 taking the Bucs. And it is one of those bets.
And Matt Stafford. Yeah, do you want to be there? You can't be against Tom Brady in the playoffs.
Right. You have a chance.

Speaker 1 You have a chance of winning, obviously, with the Rams because it's pretty much a coin-flip game. But with the Rams, you also have a chance of being feeling like an absolute moron.

Speaker 1 If Matt Stafford throws like two picks and then everyone tweets at you, how could you bet Matt Stafford against Tom Brady in the playoffs?

Speaker 1 And then you feel, it's like a double loss where you really feel bad about yourself. I hate those.

Speaker 4 Like, I lost my bet in the national championship game betting on Nick Saban.

Speaker 1 Yeah, man. No one's going to blame me.

Speaker 4 And it's like, yeah, I'm okay with that. I'm at peace for that.
Nine times out of ten, that bet works out.

Speaker 1 Yes, Billy.

Speaker 5 My take is both of these teams are like super teams, like Madden franchise mode teams. And the Buccaneers are the OG super team.

Speaker 5 And the Rams, Odell, I think, was a flash in the pan last week because no one was really game planning for him because they thought he was a bust.

Speaker 4 Well, hasn't he had like four games? in another offense.

Speaker 1 No one was game planning for him last week?

Speaker 5 Well, no, because that's why he had a big game because everyone was like, okay, they weren't taking him seriously.

Speaker 1 He's had like seven touchdowns in his last five games. He has been good.
He has been good. Okay, I know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 I know you're taking him seriously this game.

Speaker 1 Got it.

Speaker 5 It's not going to be as wide open as it was last game. And then Buccaneers locked down.

Speaker 4 I think that you're right that these are two kind of like Spider-Man meme teams where they're kind of dream team. You could say that the Bucs are definitely assembled like a dream team would be.

Speaker 4 The Rams are assembled like a basketball team,

Speaker 4 which is an issue, especially when it comes to, like, I feel like their offensive line isn't as physical as the Bucs' offensive line is when it's healthy.

Speaker 1 I also, I don't know how you can look it up. Can you look up weight for offensive linemen, like the total offensive line?

Speaker 1 I've always just thought, they do have Whitworth, but I've always thought the Rams had a little bit on the lighter side, which is not good when you're going up Vita Vey.

Speaker 1 And this might be totally made up, completely made up. So I'm just saying that right now.
I wish I could find that stack. Can you find it?

Speaker 5 I can do it.

Speaker 1 I think it's

Speaker 1 list their weights real quick. You got them?

Speaker 1 I don't even know what the average weight would be. All right, this is the research question.
Okay, what would be light?

Speaker 4 What would be a light weight on average? I'd say probably like 310.

Speaker 1 Yeah, somewhere around there.

Speaker 4 Which is crazy to say, like 310.

Speaker 1 I mean, well, and when you're going up against Vita Vey, who's what?

Speaker 4 370, 380?

Speaker 1 I mean, that would be.

Speaker 1 It's always funny when we try to break down football and like the X's and O's. It's like, sometimes, it's kind of like when basketball, like, sometimes the taller team wins.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Sometimes the guys with the bigger guys win.

Speaker 4 That's what Booger said last week about Vita Vey. He's like, he's got too much ass for Kelsey.
Right. And it's true.
Like, Vita Vey has, his ass can single-handedly defeat an offensive line by itself.

Speaker 1 It's like every time we get pumped about a point guard who's like under six feet and then they get in the playoffs, they get bottled up.

Speaker 1 You're like, oh, yeah, because they're playing a guy who's like seven inches taller than them, and it matters in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 Yeah, if you're looking at the order of like things that dominate and are more important than other things, it can be like offensive lineman who runs a 4-740, offensive lineman that can bench press 225 pounds 50 times, and then just Vita Vee's ass on top of all of it.

Speaker 1 Yes, it says the average weight of lineman in the NFL is 314 in recent years.

Speaker 5 I would say eyeball test 310 for the Rams.

Speaker 1 Okay, so a little bit on the lighter side.

Speaker 4 According to Billy's eyeball, yeah.

Speaker 1 So, and according to my gut feeling, a little bit on the lighter side. I actually tried to look it up.
I couldn't figure out.

Speaker 1 How do they not rank that? How do you not have just a ranking of total weight of offensive line?

Speaker 4 I'm on it right now. Andrew Whitworth, I clicked on his name.
Starting left tackle, he weighs 330 pounds.

Speaker 1 Okay, so he's on the bigger side.

Speaker 4 So he's on the bigger side. Number two, David Edwards.

Speaker 1 That's a bit.

Speaker 4 No, this is better. Way better than all right.
David Edwards, Wisconsin guy, 308.

Speaker 1 Oh, not good. Big ass.

Speaker 4 That's the weight on that was honestly.

Speaker 4 You're a big guy. You're from Wisconsin.
You should be drinking more milk and bathing in butter. Your center, Brian Allen, 303.

Speaker 1 Yeah, center's obviously smaller, usually.

Speaker 4 303. I would like to see that a little bit higher.
Austin Corbett, right guard, 306.

Speaker 1 Uh-oh. These guys.

Speaker 1 I'm telling you.

Speaker 4 These guys need to hit a Golden Corral Buffet before the game.

Speaker 1 I'm going to look like a genius if these guys get smoked on Sunday.

Speaker 4 That's the same guy that I just said.

Speaker 1 Austin Corbett. They're just light.

Speaker 4 Rob Havenstein.

Speaker 1 Also, Wisconsin.

Speaker 4 That's a heavy-sounding name.

Speaker 1 Also Wisconsin.

Speaker 4 That's a heavy-sounding name. Rob Havenstein, 330.

Speaker 1 Okay, so they're in.

Speaker 4 They're middle. Their middle, which is where Vita Vee's ass.

Speaker 5 315.4 is what their taller is.

Speaker 1 Right, but in the middle is. Yeah.
Their middle is light. Yeah.

Speaker 4 You can afford to have some lighter guys on the edges, especially considering who the bug. Well, I guess Jason Pierre Paul is pretty big.

Speaker 4 But in the middle, you got Vita Vey's ass just staring you down.

Speaker 1 Where else?

Speaker 4 Big brown eye.

Speaker 1 Where else are you going to find this type of breakdown? Nowhere. Where we guess weights and don't even know if it matters.

Speaker 4 This goes back to that conversation that we had a while ago. I forget who we were talking to.
Maybe it was Fornelli, and we were talking about the weaknesses or Andy Staples.

Speaker 4 We're talking about weaknesses in recruiting offensive linemen in California. The food's not fat enough out there

Speaker 4 to keep them big. That's the problem with the LA team.

Speaker 1 Hank, how excited are you for In-N-Out all-Super Bowl week? Oh, I can't wait. I mean, are you going to eat it every morning? Possibly wingnuts.
Are you going to eat it? Oh, yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 I got to actually get on that if that's a possibility. Yeah.
I guess we'll know after this week.

Speaker 1 I also just feel like Ed and Alicia would, we could be like, hey, first class, tickets to the game, set you up. And they'd be like, no, thanks.
We'll stay here and watch and hop.

Speaker 1 I had that thought as well. They could absolutely say that

Speaker 1 I would rather just hang out.

Speaker 4 Going to like a watch party at the stadium. I could see them doing that.
I was like, this is not a bit at all. I swear to God, this happened to me.

Speaker 4 This morning at 2 a.m., I woke up and I I was thinking about wingnuts, and I just pulled my phone out, and I went onto my own Instagram page to rewind until I got to the wingnuts, and I just stared at the chicken wings for about 30 seconds.

Speaker 4 Incredible. And looked at them.
They're the best.

Speaker 6 I need them. I'm predicting a segment for First Taker Undisputed Monday morning.
If the Bucs win this game, they're going to say the Rams went all in only to forget Tom Brady's in their confidence.

Speaker 6 Yeah. Kind of like when super teams go with LeBron and the East.

Speaker 1 I also think the Rams, for some reason, they've just figured out a way to go all in every every year.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't know what they do. They don't have any draft picks.

Speaker 4 Jake, do you agree, though, that if the Rams win, the conversation is, is this the end of the line for Tom Brady?

Speaker 1 Yes, one of those two will be happening. Do you think that Tom Brady, Hank, I'll pose this to you, if they win the Super Bowl this year, do you think he would walk off?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think it's a possibility. I think it's now, we're definitely in the range of, because I actually was thinking about this.
I don't think he would do the walk-off at the Super Bowl podium.

Speaker 1 I think he would wait, like, Peyton basically did that.

Speaker 1 Peyton was an all-time game, you don't retire from the game, the game retires you.

Speaker 1 But Tom Brady, I think he would wait to make it a big week-long thing in like February or March.

Speaker 4 It would probably be tied in with one of his new companies that he's got.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Like Tom Brady Week, big announcement coming on the 12th of whatever month he's in. It's crypto.

Speaker 1 And he retires. Yeah, there was drama with

Speaker 1 the final episode of The Man in the Arena. Oh, really? People were saying, because it didn't come out on the day it was supposed to come out, and people were saying, I was like,

Speaker 1 in many Twitter threads, Billy reply, reply guy, but

Speaker 1 some were saying that Antonio Brown was in the episode and they were cutting him out post-mostly. And some were saying that

Speaker 1 they're waiting for Tom Brady to win, and episode 10 is going to be him announcing his retirement. Whoa, so have they

Speaker 1 not a release? I'm trying to, I'm trying to, this was, I was looking at it before it got released. I didn't check if it in the end.
My opinion. The ESPN app just crapped out.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the ESPN app sucks recently.

Speaker 5 Wait, they want him to win this playoff game, then retire?

Speaker 4 No, they want him to win the Super Bowl, then retire.

Speaker 4 Hank, are you saying that they're going to hang on to this episode until after the Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 I'm not saying this is what the people on Twitter reply because people would be like, where the fuck is this episode?

Speaker 1 And then people in the replies were like, they're waiting for him to win the Super Bowl. If that's the case, then we live in a simulation.

Speaker 1 Because that just means, like, if he's like, we're going to wait because I know I'm going to win the Super Bowl. I'll keep going.
I'll see if he's going to be able to do it.

Speaker 5 Or if they lose, then he announces retirement?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 4 If he loses before the Super Bowl, he's coming back next year.

Speaker 1 Yes, I'd agree with that.

Speaker 4 But fuck the ESPN app. All right.
Except ESPN 3 is great on Saturday night where you watch Vermont.

Speaker 1 Hell yes. What do you listen to, Jake? He's got something.
He's crunching something. Matt LaFleur

Speaker 6 in his press conference today mentioned the podcast.

Speaker 1 What did he say? I can play it for you. Give it to us.
Yep. All right.
This is off the cup.

Speaker 1 Forecast for Saturday. I see a high of 19, a low of 7.
I'm going to go to the next stage.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go to the next.

Speaker 1 utilized on Saturday

Speaker 1 I don't know we'll just have to see uh

Speaker 1 see how I'm feeling game time but uh I definitely will we'll have some layers on you know I always joke with these guys that

Speaker 1 I don't get the chance when we're making corrections on offense or on defense to go sit on those heated benches so I'm gonna make sure I stay warm okay so maybe wetsuit that was that was friend of the program Aaron Nagler who I I text with him every now and then.

Speaker 1 I am very, like, I basically, it's like a thermometer of confidence for the Packers, and his tone tells me whether he truly thinks they can win it all.

Speaker 1 He absolutely does, and that's making me very nervous. Like, his answers to me are like, uh-oh.
So he knows.

Speaker 4 But he's legit with his emotions to you. He's not always like, we're going to win everything.
He's over here.

Speaker 1 No, he is very honest, and I'm very worried just based on our correspondence.

Speaker 4 What about Tom Crabtree, recurring guest? I feel like he's the guy that's always too confident.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's always like Aaron Rodgers is the greatest ever.

Speaker 4 He should be because he threw one touchdown to me.

Speaker 1 Episode 10 is not out. Oh, okay.
So stay woke.

Speaker 4 No offense, Tom. I love you.

Speaker 1 So we live in a simulation, officially. All right, Sunday night.

Speaker 1 I mean, this is the best part about this weekend, is that we have three games that are all great, and then we have the Chiefs and the Bills, which I could not be more excited for this game.

Speaker 1 In fact, I've released my game of the year, my third game of the year, over 54.5 in this game. People are like, oh, how many game of the year? Listen, I haven't lost a game of the year yet.

Speaker 1 Do you want me to keep releasing winners? I also love that a lot of people have been taking the under, which makes me even more confident because I know it's a high number. I know it's crazy.

Speaker 4 Why would you take the under in this game?

Speaker 1 It's a torture. Yeah, torture yourself.

Speaker 4 This is a fun game. This is a game where any given quarter, either one of these two teams could put up 24 points.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 So my rationale behind it, in terms of the actual game, which we could talk about, like who we actually think is going to win, but the rationale behind the over at game of the year

Speaker 1 is

Speaker 1 the last two times these guys have played, it's been fireworks, including the AFC championship game. So, you can't be like, oh, they play tighter in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 I think both teams are going to get at least one, maybe two big-time touchdowns. You know what I mean? Like, big-time plays.
I like that.

Speaker 4 Big-time touchdowns.

Speaker 1 Big-time touchdowns. Not 10-play drives.
I'm talking three-play drives.

Speaker 4 That's one where you say to the house.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. You're like, that's good for the over.
I'm also,

Speaker 1 so for the Chiefs, we'll have to look at the practice reports. But Rashad Fenton, their best cornerback, didn't play against the Steelers, back injury, hasn't practiced this week.

Speaker 1 He would be very crucial for the Chiefs' defense on a team that wants to pass the ball over you. And for the Bills, I think this is where you really get hurt by Tredavious White.

Speaker 1 Like when you look at who the Bills played, he got hurt in that,

Speaker 1 was it Thanksgiving night? They play Thanksgiving night? Yeah, the Saints, the Saints and Bills.

Speaker 1 They then played a bunch of teams that really couldn't kill them with the pass, and also the Bucs who did kill him with the pass.

Speaker 1 Remember that game that went to overtime that the Bucs kind of took their foot off the gas?

Speaker 4 Refs fucked him.

Speaker 1 Refs fucked him. I think this is the game where you're like, damn, really wish we could have Shredavius White out here against the Chiefs offense that can do it on anyone.

Speaker 4 I think that the Bills are one of the only teams in the NFL that can control the clock against the Chiefs enough to keep Patrick Mahomes off the field.

Speaker 4 Hey, big cat, Chiefs can't score when Mahomes doesn't have the ball. True.
That's just a fact.

Speaker 4 A lot of teams say that. Well, they can, technically.
Yes, I know.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 4 they probably won't be scoring if Mahomes doesn't have the ball. The Bills can do it, though.

Speaker 4 They have the offense necessary that can keep their team on the field for a longer period of time, keep their defense rested, and then just hope that you get a couple stops here and there against Mahomes, and then you try to grind it out a little bit.

Speaker 1 And I'll be the first to admit I kind of fell fell for the Chiefs' defense has completely like fixed itself. And then you look back through it and you're like, okay, who did they play?

Speaker 1 And I mean,

Speaker 1 they didn't fix themselves against Justin Herbert, who's a very good quarterback. They didn't fix themselves against Joe Burrow, who's a very good quarterback.
They fixed themselves.

Speaker 1 I mean, even the Broncos went up and down on them with Drew Locke. They fixed themselves against

Speaker 1 Big Ben.

Speaker 4 What? What does that mean? Drew Locke? I mean, you had to like, yeah, discuss it. It's a side swipe.

Speaker 1 They fixed themselves against, you know, Big Ben, who, some of the numbers after the season, like, did you see the chart, the pass chart he had? Yeah.

Speaker 4 He wasn't playing football by the end.

Speaker 1 It really wasn't.

Speaker 1 You know, they played the Packers, but it was Jordan Love, and they beat up on the Raiders twice. So I just, I think the Chiefs' defense is not historically bad like it was.

Speaker 1 It's definitely a lot better. It's somewhere in the middle, yeah.
But it does feel like when they play really good teams, you see, like, oh, yeah, they're not, this isn't the strength of their team.

Speaker 4 But even if they're playing badly, they're still opportunistic enough where they can make you pay if you make a mistake.

Speaker 1 They'll turn the ball over.

Speaker 4 Tyrant Matthew got his hand on a ball that he has no business intercepting or picking up a fumble that he shouldn't even be there for. Yes.
And he'll get it. And that's just what the Chiefs' defense.

Speaker 4 I find that happens a lot with teams that are really good offensively is the defense just shuts everything else off in their brains except for turnovers.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 4 It's like, we'll go out here and you can complete whatever you want on us. We'll give up a shitload of yards, but we're exclusively playing to try to get the ball out of your hands.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's our contribution. Exactly.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so

Speaker 4 I feel like the Chiefs' defense is good enough to keep them honest, but I still think that this is Josh Allen's time. I think that we're going to see Josh fucking Allen this weekend.

Speaker 1 I want it to happen so bad.

Speaker 1 I'm going to focus on the over because it's my game of the year. I don't think I'm going to bet either side.

Speaker 1 I would bet the Bills, but there's just a nagging thing in the back of my brain that it's similar to the Tom Brady, where every time you think that patrick mahomes like last year in the afc championship game then what happened i it's just like the chiefs are one of those teams that can embarrass you yeah they can embarrass you when you gamble against them the bills can too that's i know i know i want them to win last weekend i want them to win but you you're

Speaker 1 you can you can easily time to move on from mac jones he's a rookie no are you sure yes i mean he's he looked pretty bad down the stretch there hank i mean he's a rookie quarterback that took his team to the playoffs we're not talking about that okay you you can be embarrassed by Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 1 You can go into a game thinking that you're going to beat Patrick Mahomes and then have the, you know, like happen on Sunday night. Obviously, the Steelers aren't, they're barely a playoff team.

Speaker 1 They were a playoff team, but that snowballed on them so fucking fast and so, holy shit, this is what they do. They ran out of fireworks.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 I've got one quote from the Bills left tackle. Deion Dawkins that might sway you to betting on the Bills.

Speaker 1 Oh, I get I would bet on the Bills if I were. I'm focusing all my energy on the over.

Speaker 4 Deion Dawkins, he says, this actually might be a new segment for us. No disrespect, but F everybody.

Speaker 1 Love it.

Speaker 4 He even said F. He didn't say fuck.
But he implied no disrespect,

Speaker 4 but F everybody.

Speaker 1 I like it.

Speaker 4 I like the entire Bills mindset right now because

Speaker 4 they still feed off all the disrespect that they got after that week 13 game. It was recent enough where like, you know, the Titans lose to the Jets earlier in the season.

Speaker 4 People clown them for a week and kind of forget about it and move on. But since that was a Monday Night Football game and it was so late in the season, since it was such a memorable game,

Speaker 4 they're still catching shit.

Speaker 1 And the Jaguars game, too, happened around that time.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the Jags game, too. So it was like a combo.
So they're still catching shit for being somewhat fraudulent. But if you've seen them play recently, you know that the Bills

Speaker 4 and they might get beat this weekend, but I don't think that that would make them frauds. No,

Speaker 1 the Chiefs are also really good. That's why these games, that's why I'm so excited for these games.
Everyone is really good at this point in the playoffs. We're sounding like Magic Johnson right now.

Speaker 1 Anything could happen. Anything could happen, guys.

Speaker 1 You also should watch, not just because he is our friend and he will be back on the show next week, Julian Edelman, inside the NFL.

Speaker 1 Did you see the mic'd up Jordan Poyer talking to guys on the bench about Josh Allen? He's like, he's so fucking good, and no one realizes how goofy he is. And it was just so awesome.

Speaker 1 It was so endearing. They're like, I die for him.
I love him. I just, there's something about when defensive players

Speaker 1 love their quarterback who they probably

Speaker 1 in an NFL locker room, they probably spend no time with them. And having that love for them, it means that they're really a dude.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 And that's Josh. That's Josh, baby.

Speaker 1 Thoughts on this game from Hank or the couch before we get to Coach O

Speaker 1 go and Bills, Bills' money line. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Small. Yeah.
Yeah. I do have a hungry dog.
It's Niners, Bills, Bengals. Ooh, Niners, Bills, Bengals.
Okay. That is a very hard.
Where does that lose?

Speaker 4 I mean, I think one of those is going to lose. I just don't know which one.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 No offense.

Speaker 1 I like that. You said you picked the Niners and the Bills, so the Chiefs.

Speaker 4 And the Bengals.

Speaker 1 So you.

Speaker 4 So I agree with you. Okay.
But

Speaker 4 I don't think all three.

Speaker 4 I'm not delusional enough to think that all three of my bets are going to win.

Speaker 1 I am. All right.

Speaker 1 You got to have that confidence. I love it.
Billy.

Speaker 5 Like Like the Bills, but it's going to be an absolute shootout.

Speaker 1 Yes. Over.
Game of the year. Let's go.

Speaker 1 And just so everyone knows, and the guys in this room can back me up, when I say game of the year, I put the chips in the middle.

Speaker 1 I'm putting the chips in the middle. It's going to be a responsibly large wager for me.

Speaker 1 I'm going to be sweating out every second of it.

Speaker 4 I might ride with you. Thank you.

Speaker 1 It's fun to just be like, let's fucking ride.

Speaker 4 I increased my units last week on

Speaker 4 the Cowboys credibility game, which I lost. But now I've got that big game hunting feeling.
It's fun.

Speaker 6 It's fun. PFT, get your fingers ready.

Speaker 1 This is basic heaven. Oh, yes, it is.
Oh, yeah. Bales, Chiefs.
Now, is yours? Are you worried, though? Are you worried, though, that it's early? Is it too early for basic time?

Speaker 4 No, I think

Speaker 4 anytime the Chiefs, it's actually even more perfect for basic time because all the big J's are still awake.

Speaker 4 No one's tapped out for bed yet.

Speaker 6 Barbecue spread in the press box, I'm sure.

Speaker 1 It's sad how

Speaker 1 much how more excited I am for the timing of this game, the fact that we actually can maybe start recording at like 10 o'clock on Sunday night.

Speaker 1 It's crazy how much that changes my entire mood and happiness that we don't have to like start recording at midnight.

Speaker 1 It's insane. It probably says a lot about like we maybe

Speaker 1 football season has taken its toll on our lives.

Speaker 4 It's a nice, really nice change of pace.

Speaker 1 Yes. Okay.
Before we get to Coach O, quick word. So we started the Coach O interview.
His audio wasn't great. We stopped it about two minutes in.
We got it fixed. He got in the

Speaker 1 AirPods. Sounded great afterwards.
He also gave us at the end of the interview one of the greatest compliments we've ever gotten on this show. I'm still buzzing from

Speaker 1 our tombstones.

Speaker 4 Maybe one of the last times we had him on, he just out of nowhere goes, thank you all for your friendship. Yeah.
And that made me feel high for two weeks.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I'm still buzzing from what he told us at the end earlier because nobody's ever said that to us before.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. So, all right, Coach O's, brought.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on one of our very special guests, one of our good friends. It is Coach O.
He is live from Miami Beach. You look fantastic.
You look like you're happy, son, everything.

Speaker 1 We're going to talk about Joe Burrow, the Bengals, big playoff game, but let's first do this. Like, how, I mean, what is,

Speaker 1 you know, unemployed Coach O look like? It looks like a pretty good life right now. You're doing well.

Speaker 7 I've been enjoying myself, man. I've been enjoying my family.
I've been enjoying my time off, working out. doing a lot of things that I haven't got a chance to do.

Speaker 7 Very appreciative of my time with LSU. Feeling great.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you look like you've been been spending some time with Ray Baker down there. You still friends with him?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I just went running with it, man. It kicked my butt again.
It got me.

Speaker 1 I love it. Are you lifting right now? Are you benching? Or what are you doing?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I'm lifting and running every day, man. Every day I can.
And boxing at night.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. All right.
So

Speaker 1 what are you benching right now? I mean,

Speaker 1 I think you're the one who told us that you have to be able to bench a certain weight to get respect in the locker room.

Speaker 7 Yeah, you know, and my goal was I had to wake up every day and bench 3:15. Now, I got to tell you, I'm not there yet.
I got to get back at it. I got a little work to do.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's a good goal. That's a good goal.

Speaker 4 You'll get there for sure. So

Speaker 4 is there a part of you that

Speaker 4 has started to miss football? Are you just like, you know what? I'm going to enjoy my time off. I'm going to take some time for O.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I'm taking some time off, watching a lot of football. You know, all three of my sons want to get into coaching.

Speaker 7 And so, I mean, we on the phone, we network, and and it's like I'm young again, trying to get jobs. We all try to get jobs, get plays, get competitive.
So spend a lot of time doing that with my boys.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I was actually going to ask you about your son. Is he still talking to you after you sacked him eight times?

Speaker 1 That's messed up.

Speaker 4 I was looking at the stats from that game.

Speaker 4 He had negative 60 yards rushing. That's mean.
That was a mean thing you did to him.

Speaker 7 You know what he says? He said he loved the game. He said, daddy, I scored in Tiger Stadium, man.
He said, I'll never forget it. He thinks the positive, but you know what? He's tough.

Speaker 7 He knew it was going to happen. And I was just happy when that game was over.
I'll tell you the truth.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I love it. Okay, Cocho's back.
We had to do a little technical thing here to get a little bit better audio.

Speaker 1 This is life at the beach, right? Like, this is,

Speaker 1 you know, it's not like you're in a conference room set up to do a bunch of meetings. I love it.
This is perfect setup. So

Speaker 1 we were talking about missing football. How is it watching the games? Like, you know, being in football for as long as you have been in football, can you watch the games and enjoy them?

Speaker 1 Or do you watch the games and you're like, oh, they got to do this different? Or I wish I could see the all-22. I wish I could see something differently.

Speaker 7 Yeah, you know, I enjoy watching the game. I sit down.

Speaker 7 We get a lot of food with my kids. We're on a soap.
I didn't get a chance to do that for 42 years. You know, on Sundays, we're working.
On Saturdays, we're working.

Speaker 7 So I enjoy watching the football games. I enjoy sitting there.

Speaker 7 Actually, I really enjoyed being with my time off.

Speaker 4 And I know there's a lot of good football being played played right now i'm excited about the playoffs there's a lot of great teams for sure yeah the bengals are looking really really good and i know that you're keeping up with them because obviously they got they got joe and jamar on the team and the last time we saw those guys playing together and saw you was uh it was down in new orleans when you guys were winning national championship that was a pretty fun night have you um do you stay in touch with joe do you talk to him on a regular basis Yeah, you know, I text him every once in a while and he always texts me back.

Speaker 7 My son was going through a tough time, through a couple of picks. He gave him a call.
He's always there for him. I talked to his dad, very supportive, very proud of what he's doing.

Speaker 1 So the Joe Burrow path is incredible to me because, you know, obviously he goes to Ohio State, then transfers to you guys at LSU.

Speaker 1 And we were reminiscing on Monday, we were at that game his first year at LSU when he played Alabama. You know,

Speaker 1 you guys, I think, got blanked.

Speaker 1 And we watched the game. I remember coming away from that game being like, one, Joe Burrow is tough as hell because he got beat up.
But two,

Speaker 1 I didn't walk away being like, that guy's the first pick in the draft and he's going to be a future franchise quarterback.

Speaker 1 And then from that point on, it's like the explosion of his talent, everything.

Speaker 1 Did you see that? Did you, in your wildest dreams, be like, this guy is going to be a bona fide superstar in the NFL?

Speaker 7 We didn't see it when he first came, to be honest with you. I saw his leadership.
I saw his guts and his character, but he had some things he had to work on.

Speaker 7 I think Steve Insbrey, our quarterback coach, did a tremendous job with him. Joe grew as a football player last year.
He had to compete. Like you said, man, we got beat by Alabama.
Nobody was happy.

Speaker 7 But Joe came to work the same day, same way, same attitude. And I think when he really exploded with that summer, that he had to get 10,000 balls with each receiver.
They grew together.

Speaker 7 The game against UCF, he had a great game there. And then we went to the spread offense with Joe Brady.
I think that was the evolution of Joe.

Speaker 7 That was more his wheelhouse, and he could be more in control of the game.

Speaker 1 And in terms of his toughness, because I think that's an underrated part of Joe Burrow, like, you know, because obviously guys are, there's a lot of tough guys in the NFL, but at the quarterback position, Joe Burrow, it feels like he is always going to give his receivers an extra second and take that hit and stand in the pocket.

Speaker 1 And it's something that you just can't teach. And I would imagine, speaking as his former coach, like the rest of the team sees that and just like galvanizes behind him.
Is that not how it works?

Speaker 7 Hey, I'll tell you what, it fired up the team, man. It's in his DNA.
Now, Joe will fight for you. Joe will work his butt off.
He'll be first in the weight room. He's consistent.

Speaker 7 I remember his first game. I'm walking right behind him.
We're in a pregame warm-up and I'm walking right behind. We're going in there about to talk to the team.

Speaker 7 And Joe has his helmet on and he's banging it against the cement wall. I was like, Joe, settle down, man.
You're going to be okay. But that's in him.
You know, Joe's tough and that's in him.

Speaker 7 It's going to be like that every day with Joe Burrow.

Speaker 1 It's great, too, because, you know, the way we watch football has obviously changed analytics and the way people talk about football.

Speaker 1 But I just love when you see a guy and you're like, yeah, he's just a tough motherfucker. And that matters a lot for football.

Speaker 7 You know, and it matters in the locker room. Our team believed in Joe.
And, you know, he took that hit against UCF. It was a late hit.
I called timeout. I said to get Miles in.
He used some words.

Speaker 7 Have that coach. Hey, I ain't taking it.
I ain't going out. We're down 14 points.
We went down and scored the next three possessions. I think that's when he won the team over.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. And it always seems like he's unflappable, too.
Like, yeah, he does take a lot of hits and he gets right back up. And I think, you know, his players, his teammates obviously respect that.

Speaker 4 But he also, he doesn't like lose his cool when he's back there.

Speaker 4 He's got like a very even temperature about him where he's dodging around guys that are coming out of him that weigh 100 pounds more than he does. And he doesn't seem like he's even breaking a sweat.

Speaker 7 That's his intelligence. And this is his confidence.
Joe studies film. And like I said, you guys know this, we had a football meeting, the recruiting.
There were six people in the room.

Speaker 7 All of us send our coaches. Joe is the smartest guy in the room.
He's the smartest football player I've ever been around. He studies.
He's consistent. He has one goal in mind, and that's to be great.

Speaker 7 You know, the year we were going on a championship run. And, you know, he started.
Think about this. He started the season.
He was a projected six-round pick. He ended up being the first-round pick.

Speaker 7 You talk about development and getting better throughout the year. But you know what? As we grew and as we started winning games, Heisman's trophy star started talking.
That was not his goal.

Speaker 7 Our goal was one thing, is to win the championship. And he led us that way.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you mentioned recruiting. I'm curious.
Do you miss, you miss going on recruiting trips? You miss being invited into mama's home and having some of the gumbo?

Speaker 7 You know what? Hey, I did it for so long. You got got to think about this.
I've been in college for 42 years, man.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 7 that's a long time. It's time to take a break.
I'm enjoying my break, but you know what? I do miss it. I do miss football.
I do miss my team. I miss the excitement.
I miss the competition.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 not to dwell on the past, but how often do you think about the national championship that night?

Speaker 1 Because I will tell you right now, I probably think about it once a week just because it was that much fun.

Speaker 7 And it was like going out after in new orleans and then getting to interview you the next day when we were very very drunk uh how often do you think about it though you know it happens so fast and derek mate you guys will know that man you'd have a chance to take it all in and uh but you know being a boy from louisiana and always want to win the championship for the people in louisiana now that i get to think about that it was a special night it was a special night for the state of louisiana think about this man 15 and oh all they can do is try try to match it.

Speaker 7 Good luck.

Speaker 4 They can't take it away from you ever.

Speaker 4 They can't beat it.

Speaker 4 I don't know if you remember this, but in that,

Speaker 4 like right after the interview that we had, whereas Big Cat alluded to, we were fairly intoxicated still from the night before his festivities.

Speaker 4 We interviewed Joe. And then after we interviewed Joe, you were still in head coach mode where you were running around, grabbing people, and you were like, everybody get on the bus right now.

Speaker 4 The bus is going to leave without you. And you were making sure everybody, and everyone, your whole team was like, what the hell do we need to get on the bus for?

Speaker 4 We We just won the national championship.

Speaker 1 We don't have practice tomorrow, but you're right.

Speaker 4 I don't think that you were really, you're not a guy that like sits back and

Speaker 4 would soak things in. You're always on the go, right?

Speaker 7 Yeah, you know, and the next thing's up. You know, we had to get back.
We had to get back. We had to get recruiting.
We had to get going. You know, we wanted to keep that thing rolling.

Speaker 7 But I'm so appreciative of the coaches and the players. Hey, think about this, man.
The way you win championships, you get great players.

Speaker 7 And great players make big time plays and big time games and how guys did it.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Did you watch, I assume that you did watch the college football championship this year.
Did you have a rooting interest? Were you pulling for Georgia or Alabama?

Speaker 7 No, I was interested in watching the game. I was really interested in seeing a lot of players that we recruited.

Speaker 7 You know, we played Alabama very tough. We played about as tough as anybody.
And I was pleased to see that Georgia played their best game. I'm happy for Kirby Smart.

Speaker 7 Obviously, I got a lot of respect for Coach Sabin in Alabama, but I'm happy for Kirby.

Speaker 7 I know how much it meant for him to win the national championship, for him to be in that school that he played for in Georgia. I'm very happy for him in the state.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 you talked about winning it for the state of Louisiana, the people of Louisiana being from Louisiana. Have you had any talk,

Speaker 1 you know, maybe in the transition with Brian Kelly, maybe tell him how not to do a Louisiana accent? Have you had, has that come up at all?

Speaker 1 Has he reached out and been like, hey, coach, I could really use some help pronouncing the word family?

Speaker 7 Not at all. Listen, hey, you know what?

Speaker 7 And, man we we went we went to lsu and we were going to work every day and i knew one day it would come that i walk out that building i said once i walk out that building i'm leaving it alone i'm doing everything i can very appreciative i never had a bad day at louisiana state university i wish all those guys the luck but now it's up to them i got nothing to do with it now yeah and you you deserve credit because it's a very tricky situation it's not often that a guy you know is told hey you're not going to be here next year but we still need you to keep coaching for the rest of the year.

Speaker 1 And, you know, I think that's a testament to your love for the school and the state of Louisiana. So you deserve credit for that for sure.

Speaker 7 You know, we were going to stay and fight. I wasn't going to leave my team.
And I knew after the Kentucky game, that wasn't the LSU standard performance. We had a meeting.
I just said, I get it.

Speaker 7 I understand the LSU standard performance. It just wasn't there.
But I was going to stay there and fight for the team. And think about this, man.

Speaker 7 We played Alabama tough, you know, a couple of plays away from winning that game. We played great defense.

Speaker 7 We played Arkansas overtime, and then we beat Texas AM. And I kept telling the team, stay together.

Speaker 7 We had a lot of new guys play. We had a lot of guys that didn't play.
And those guys that stayed, I told them if you keep on working, something good is going to happen.

Speaker 7 And, man, what a great game against Texas AM. A great number.
That was.

Speaker 1 And do you regret it all the sissy blue shirts? Because I regret it. Because

Speaker 1 I bet on LSU after you said that, and then it just didn't really work out.

Speaker 7 No, not at all.

Speaker 1 Yeah, not at all.

Speaker 7 You know, and listen, that's something, listen, man, that's a long-going thing

Speaker 7 with USC. I used to say that at USC a long time ago, back in 1999, when I was there.

Speaker 7 And, you know, I was walking in there and the fan provoked me, and I was just joking with them, you know, about the sissy blue shirts. Well, they did what I tell.
I got to give them credit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 We just need to know, Big Ken I, because we've talked about this a little bit.

Speaker 4 We like LSU. We like Louisiana State University.
We love the state of Louisiana, but we're also just like Coach O guys.

Speaker 4 So you really upped our love for that university. You essentially recruited us when you were there, whether you know it or not.
We need to know, is it still Go Tigers right now?

Speaker 4 Are we still pulling for him?

Speaker 7 It would always be Go Tigers. I'm always pulling for them.
I wish them all the best, man. I've got a lot of people that are loved there.
I got a lot of players that are recruited.

Speaker 7 I don't know Coach Kelly well. I think he's a great coach.
I think he's going to do a great job. I wish him all the best.
I'm always going to cheer for the Tigers.

Speaker 1 So let me throw this idea out there because I think I'm getting the vibe that you are enjoying your time, but you're not going to say no to coaching again. You'll be back out there at some point.

Speaker 1 Have you thought about being just an interim head coach for hire? Because you're the greatest interim head coach of all time.

Speaker 1 When you took over for USC, that was my initial love with you was you took over for USC in what it was, 2013, and you guys went on a tear against the spread and straight up.

Speaker 1 And then the same thing happened when you took over at LSU. There's something about you that you can galvanize a locker room.
So have you thought about that? Like, hey,

Speaker 1 you're going to fire your coach, bring in Coach O, pay him like $5 million. He'll finish out the season, probably win some games you're not supposed to win.

Speaker 7 Hey, that's a good idea, man. Hey, I'm ready.
Hey, I didn't think of it like that, but hey, I'm one phone call away. I'm ready.
I'm rested. And look, hey, I've been off of what, six weeks now?

Speaker 7 And I got the itch. I do think I'm going to coach again, but it's got to be the right thing.
I'm not going to, I'm going to spend some time. I'm going to do the things that I need to do.

Speaker 7 But if it's the right thing, I'm getting back at it.

Speaker 4 Are we limiting ourselves to college? Are we thinking, like, if the right pro team called in the right situation, you do that?

Speaker 7 Yeah, all options are open. All doors are open.
You know, I'm going to be 61 this summer. I'm healthy.

Speaker 7 I got a lot of left in the tank, man. Whatever it may be.
Whatever's going to happen is going to be for the right reason. I do believe that.

Speaker 1 Let me throw out another one.

Speaker 1 And now I never know with coaches. It's always tough.
College football is a cutthroat business, so I might say this name, and you're like, oh, we had a falling out like 10 years ago. You didn't know.

Speaker 1 But you were a coach. You were on the staff when Mario Cristobal was a player at Miami.

Speaker 1 Maybe Coach O comes back to bring some juice back to the U, you know, defensive line, you know, defense, whatever it may be, get the boys going again. Is that a possibility?

Speaker 7 It may be.

Speaker 1 I'm not far away. Yeah.

Speaker 7 I'm a passive car gambler tomorrow.

Speaker 1 We're going to ride through the keys but you know what i talked to mario and uh i love mario i think he is a great fit for for the university of miami he's got a lot of pride it reminds me of going back to lsu and i think he's gonna do a great job there and you know again i'm keeping all options open okay so i'm gonna put that one out in the rumor mill just because i like i said i never know like i could probably list 10 coaches that you've coached with or been around and like eight of them you'd be like oh yeah we don't talk anymore because that's just the nature of the business right like that's just that's how it always seems to work where you mention someone and it's like, oh yeah, you didn't hear there was a falling out over a recruit or whatever it may be.

Speaker 1 You know what?

Speaker 7 I can't tell you that. All the guys I've been with were friends.
I talked to Lane Kiff the other day. I talked to Sarkeesian,

Speaker 7 Pete Carroll, Clay Helton, all these guys. You know, we tight.
I mean, we're all one family. And this, hey, stuff happens in football.
It's competitive, but you got to let that stuff go.

Speaker 7 You got to move on, you know?

Speaker 4 Yeah. Would you ever, would you ever consider leaving the South? Like, could you see yourself working in a city where it snows for four months out of the year?

Speaker 7 Well, you know, I got to tell you, I coached to Syracuse, New York, in Paul Pascal. I'm very gracious of the job.
And Syracuse was a great school.

Speaker 7 But when it snowed May 1st, this southern boy had to leave. I was shoveling the snow out my driveway.

Speaker 7 Down here, we bowled a crawfish and we played basketball outside. And the snow on May 1st is a little different for him, I got to admit.

Speaker 4 Yeah, May 1st, that's just God telling you you're not supposed to be living here. Yeah.

Speaker 4 It should be the summer. You should be able to have your shirt off somewhere and a cocktail in your hand on May 1st.
I would get out of there, too, if I were you. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I had a coach or a question about,

Speaker 4 you know, Big Cat brought up the interim coaching thing.

Speaker 4 Rick Bissakia is the coach of the Raiders, right? He took over on an interim basis. He was thrown into a really, really tough situation, and I think he handled himself really well this year.

Speaker 4 You can see that his players care about him, that his players played real hard for him this entire season. They kind of outperformed those expectations there.

Speaker 4 What was it do you think about what you did at LSU that was able to give them the confidence that, okay, we're going to take this guy that he's had success being an interim coach, and we're going to give him the keys.

Speaker 4 What do you think? What kind of case could Bersace make for himself that might lend some credence to the fact that

Speaker 4 he should stick around as the head coach there?

Speaker 7 Well, the good thing is that

Speaker 7 he had a job interview every Sunday. And I thought the guy did very well.
And he had a job interview every day. They saw the inner workers.
They saw the way that he had gotten that team to play.

Speaker 7 I think the guy did a great job, man. I hope they give him a shot.
I think he deserves it.

Speaker 7 I know Rod Marinelli on that staff. I know Walt Jup on the scouts there.
Everybody loves him. Everybody's talking great about the guy.
I think when you step in like that and you're not ready for it.

Speaker 7 And then you go in there and you galvanize the team, I think that a guy deserves a shot. And I think he can do a great job.
You know, I I was very fortunate, and Derek was there right with me.

Speaker 7 And I talked to Joe Levin the other day, and I thanked him for hiring me. Now, hey, we weren't the first choice, wasn't the second choice, wasn't the third, but it didn't matter.

Speaker 7 You know, we got the job. And when I said, you know, once we get the job, our goal is to win the national championship.
We want to build a championship program, and we did. For that, I'm grateful.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So when you're watching the NFL, we were just talking to Derek before this started.

Speaker 1 There's LSU Tigers on the Titans as well. Is it like watching fantasy football where you're just rooting? You're not rooting for a team.
You're just rooting for your specific guys to ball out?

Speaker 7 Yes. Yes.
I'm watching individuals play. And you know what? I'm so proud of all these guys.
They're doing so well, man. They took the NFL by storm.
But you know what?

Speaker 7 It's no surprise because they're team players.

Speaker 7 They're about the team. They're about winning.
They want it. All those guys had a tremendous work at it.
Think about this.

Speaker 7 In the spring, going into our championship year on a Saturday morning, we had a recruiting weekend, and spring ball was over.

Speaker 7 And my on-campus recruiting coordinator called me and said, Coach, can we take the recruits to watch your team practice? I said, we're not practicing Saturday morning. Spring practice is over.

Speaker 7 She goes, no.

Speaker 7 She goes, Joe and Jamar and all those guys and Justin Jefferson called the practice. Clyde Edwards and Lair called the practice.

Speaker 7 The whole team was there 100% on Saturday morning, practice at nine o'clock. That's loving football, man.
So those guys got, they got that in the DNA.

Speaker 7 And I'm so glad that they took it to the nfl and having success it all goes also goes to show you when we recruited these young men we talked about development we talked about you're going to get better five star four star three star two star it don't matter look at look at devin white look at what he's doing look at justin jeff i don't know if he was a star it didn't matter but they developed at lsu and also you guys know Playing in the SEC is one not below the NFL.

Speaker 7 And the competition level there is fierce.

Speaker 1 I think that's why those guys are having so much success in the nfl yeah and the um speaking of of guys in this draft how good can derrick stingley be like he's going to be a first-round pick he was one of your your your great players on the on the championship team as well is he going to be another guy who you just like we're going to we're going to look back because it's actually it's great for your legacy too when we 10 years from now it's like look at lsu's roster from that year it's insane and derek stingley will be added to that

Speaker 7 you know derek's the most talented corner i've seen in a long time you know corey raymond coached him and he said he's as good as patrick peterson those guys i haven't been around patrick i love patrick i think he's a great player i know that derek has not reached that status but we all believe that derek could be a great all-pro player he's got to stay healthy he's got some things to do we wish him the very best you know his dad did a very good job of coaching him when derek came He came as a mid-year graduate.

Speaker 7 We're playing, and we wanted him to play the bowl.

Speaker 4 He just started in the bowl as as a high school football player that's how good he was um big cat crazy big cat was mentioning you know some of the players that had come out justin jefferson being one of them he kind of fell in the draft a little bit when you were watching the draft and all these other receivers were you like what are the eagles doing not taking justin jefferson

Speaker 7 yeah we knew how good he was and you know justin the story look justin didn't get eligible until june And I think he was like the 2,500 player ranked in the country. But we saw him at camp.

Speaker 7 We liked him. He got eligible.
He developed. His route running is excellent.
We had

Speaker 7 Jerry Sullivan on our staff, who's one of the greatest teachers in route running and football. He's with the Arizona Cardinals, and he took Justin underneath his wing.
And Justin just grew, man.

Speaker 7 And what a great player. We always thought that he'd do great in the NFL, but I'm going to be honest with you.
He took it all by storm a little bit faster than I thought he would. What a great player.

Speaker 1 Have you learned how to gritty?

Speaker 4 Do you know how to do the gritty?

Speaker 7 You're going to team asked me how to do that one day.

Speaker 7 I ain't got no gritty in in me, man. I got to tell you.

Speaker 4 I got one name to throw out there for you. And we haven't talked to this person about this at all, so feel free to dismiss it out of hand.

Speaker 4 If you're open to a group of five school, Houston, Dana Holgerson, pretty close by,

Speaker 4 I don't think there's enough Red Bull in the world to keep the fridge of stock between you and Dana,

Speaker 4 but we could try. We could make a call for you.

Speaker 7 No, hey, a great coach. A lot of respect for him.

Speaker 7 Houston's right by. Like him.
I think think he runs a great program.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.
Let's maybe link that up.

Speaker 1 So my last question, coach, this has been awesome to catch up with you.

Speaker 1 What are we eating on our cheat day this, you know, now that you're getting back in shape?

Speaker 1 I need to know because I think that would probably be the thing you miss the most from the recruiting is you don't get

Speaker 1 jambalaya and gumbo in mama's kitchen. Like you got a, what are you doing now?

Speaker 7 Hey, man, hey, we'll Miami Beach is stone crab, man.

Speaker 7 It's as many stone crabs as we can put down our face. We ate stone crab last night.
We're going to go eat them again tonight. I love them.
But you know what? I love being at home.

Speaker 7 I'm starting to cook now again. I'm going to ask Coco, all right, my mom, she's going to come over to my house and I'm going to spend seven days.
And

Speaker 7 I always ask her to write down her recipes. She don't ever want to write them down.
So I'm going to make sure.

Speaker 7 that I'm going to learn how to cook all the favorite foods that she cooks for me so I can keep it in our family legacy. That's my next goal in the next month.

Speaker 1 Put out a cookbook. Let's put out a cookbook.

Speaker 7 She doesn't want to put it down. I don't know what's wrong with it.

Speaker 4 It's tricky. Like, if you're making a roux, sometimes it's not about the ingredients that go into it.
It's about the love you put in it, coach.

Speaker 7 Exactly right. A little bit there, shadow, a little bit this.
I said, Mom, how much you put it? Me, put a fish there, takes it back there, make sure it gets brown, and then watch it get brown.

Speaker 7 She's wonderful.

Speaker 1 That's awesome. Yeah, we need the cookbook.
But yeah, we appreciate you joining us. You're You're always with us.

Speaker 1 We got a signed poster that's over my shoulder here. Right every single show

Speaker 1 when they zoom in on my side, we got the Coach O'Day. I don't know if you can see it.

Speaker 1 Thank you guys. It's Coach O'Day from

Speaker 1 honoring Ed Ozeron, LSU Tiger Head Coach, when you went back to LaRose Civic Center in 2017. So we have a signed

Speaker 1 poster that's always here.

Speaker 4 We've got a candle, too, that we light occasionally.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so you're with us, and we're excited for whatever you got next and uh we're we're rooting for joe this weekend i mean you know we love watching him play so uh we appreciate your time and and enjoy enjoy the uh time off but let's get back let's get back out there interim head coach all right man yeah all right guys and call me anytime in the air appreciate you guys everybody loves you you guys are fantastic you're great for football thanks for having me on the show thanks so much coach appreciate it

Speaker 7 all right guys

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Speaker 1 Over-under for the Chiefs Bills game is actually $54.

Speaker 1 So I like it even more. Whoa.
Even though it's dropping, which should make me nervous, but it doesn't. Game of the year.
You should love that. Yeah.
Yeah. Extra having a bad thing.

Speaker 1 Everybody else is a dummy.

Speaker 4 Yep.

Speaker 1 All right, Hank, your Firefest.

Speaker 1 My Fire Fest, we talked about it on Sunday. The video got over a million views.
People have just been kind of, you know, joking and mocking me at my expense all week.

Speaker 4 What video was that?

Speaker 1 I thought I put a bet on TJ Watt to bet when score the first touchdown on Sunday. Well, good for you.
Good news for you is that there are no Watts left. Yeah, that is good news.

Speaker 1 That's why I bet the Rams was the right pick.

Speaker 4 No brothers left at all.

Speaker 4 They're just singular brothers. No two brothers from the same sibling duo is still remaining.

Speaker 1 That's a shame.

Speaker 1 But it was Derek Watt that I bet. So when TJ Watt scored, I thought I won three grand, posted it, tweeted it.
Everyone was celebrating it.

Speaker 1 And then I had to find out live on stream in front of everyone's face that it was Derek Watt. And then I lost money and didn't win money.

Speaker 4 So that was tough. I like the people that said that you were faking it.
Yeah, no, that was our master plan for you to come.

Speaker 1 There are people that are still

Speaker 1 of that thinking. That were acting.
Like, what?

Speaker 1 I just don't even. TJ Watt scored the first touchdown.
Like, what?

Speaker 1 We planned that? Basically, we're like, hey, guys, if TJ Watt scores the first touchdown, let's plan this whole thing. Or that I was smart enough and understood the moment enough to be like, to,

Speaker 1 first of all, bet Derek Watt to score in the first place. And then be like, I know that I bet Derek Watt, but I'm going to pretend like I thought I bet TJ Watt.

Speaker 1 Because in that case,

Speaker 1 I would be the greatest thespian of all time.

Speaker 4 I mean, Hank was literally shaking.

Speaker 1 He even told us he was shaking in the moment. I was so excited.

Speaker 4 Now, you know what the problem is, is that Nick's timing with how he said

Speaker 4 that says Derek Watt was like perfect because he has just good natural timing. And so it ended up looking like a great punchline, which it was at your expense, unfortunately.

Speaker 4 But yeah, Hank, I assure you, was not.

Speaker 4 Hank could not act that good. The only good actor

Speaker 4 in this group is Bubba. Yeah.
As evidence from the Course Light Market.

Speaker 1 The Course Light Management Click. Yes.

Speaker 1 All right, so PFT, you did your Fire Fest?

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's just that I'm going to get that graphic rubbed in my face all weekend. That's right.
And whatever.

Speaker 1 Don't fight back. Whatever.

Speaker 4 Just lay down. At least we had him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, what am I going to do?

Speaker 4 Like, I didn't know that the Washington football team was a project clown show. It's news to you.

Speaker 1 All right, my Fire Fest.

Speaker 1 I know that at least one person in this room is going to hate me for saying this.

Speaker 1 That means me. That means Hank.

Speaker 1 But I'll explain myself, and I didn't ever think I'd get to this point.

Speaker 1 When you're you're a father, you end up liking things and watching things you never thought you would like

Speaker 1 and enjoying things maybe in your past life that you thought were lame.

Speaker 1 I enjoy watching Dude Perfect

Speaker 1 with my son,

Speaker 1 and also

Speaker 1 I'm kind of jealous of their life. They have a sweet ass.

Speaker 1 I will never, ever, ever contradict that.

Speaker 1 They just play games all day, and it looks like so much fun.

Speaker 4 What about Beardo being a child?

Speaker 1 I still hate him. I still hate him.
Yes, okay, so that's actually good. Thank you.
No, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 Like, I understand what Big Cat's saying, because, like, you guys already had this take.

Speaker 1 No, yeah, well,

Speaker 4 I found myself enjoying more of the purple hoser. I feel like he doesn't get enough light,

Speaker 4 but we need to remind ourselves that Beardo is still the leader of the game.

Speaker 1 No, they did a fucking, they did like the

Speaker 1 where you have a big glass of water and everyone has to pour a little bit in and whoever makes it go over loses.

Speaker 1 And fucking Beardo, like, everyone was doing real pours and Beardo was doing like very little drops. And I was like, fuck you, dude.
So, yeah, I still hate that guy. Yeah, he's a prick.

Speaker 1 But as a whole, dude, perfect, I find myself seeking out their videos, and I'm jealous of them.

Speaker 1 They played fucking, like, real life Call of Duty with paintball guns and balloons strapped to their back. How cool is that? No, they live the dream.

Speaker 4 I mean, it's oddly satisfying.

Speaker 1 Like, in their office, like, they're just shooting hoops all the time.

Speaker 4 I still think that they're jackass for youth pastors.

Speaker 1 But I'm there because I have a kid. Like, it's just, this is where I'm at.
Like, I could see myself going to one of their live shows. That's how I was about that.

Speaker 4 I mean, we got invited to go to one of their live shows, but we said...

Speaker 1 I'm not going to interact with them. We can't.
It sounds like

Speaker 1 they might be coming on the podcast. No, no, no.

Speaker 1 I would have the purple hoser on, and that's it. There's a difference.
I can like them.

Speaker 1 This is not content. This is fan from afar.

Speaker 1 If we were going to have one person person from Dude Perfect on, which one would you like to do? One of the twins. No, purple hoser.
One of the twins and try to break up the twins.

Speaker 1 If you break up the twins, the whole thing crumbles. I mean, the funniest, like, that still things I laugh about is that we,

Speaker 1 and this was all like off the air. We never even talked about it.
And I think it was the original Group Week. We spent, and it was more me and PFT, I think, we spent like

Speaker 1 a significant amount of time planning how we were going to break them up. Infiltrate them and break them up.
Yeah, and it came up. And it was like a whole week.
We talked about it for a long time.

Speaker 1 The twins twins are definitely the course of multiple days. Correct.

Speaker 4 The twins are definitely the key to that situation. Yeah, the weakness.

Speaker 1 And also, just getting everyone to be like,

Speaker 1 I think the conversation was essentially, we just need to show up and be like, hey, we're going to make burner accounts to tweet at the twins.

Speaker 1 Be like, dude, you're not getting on your shine as the other twins. Beardo's kind of a dick.
Yeah. Like, he's, because you know, deep down, like, they absolutely think that.

Speaker 1 Like, the guy is just, he's got an aggravating personality that comes through on camera. But, yeah,

Speaker 4 seek them out.

Speaker 1 I'm just,

Speaker 1 let's be real twins because it's like who the how do twins work the twins he has he has twin girlfriends at school it's crazy the twins he does he's a fucking baller are they're they're easy to get to because you can you can leverage them one of two ways one way would be to turn the twins against each other and to be like oh Toby Cody

Speaker 4 is the better twin the better looking twin yeah and then the other way would be to just turn the twins against like those two versus everybody else because the twins will always have that subtle little psychic connection.

Speaker 4 And you can,

Speaker 4 they're the logical choice. If you were to make a spin-off show, you would want the twins.
Yes. Right? The twins would be the first to get away from the business.

Speaker 1 The twins would be a fun show.

Speaker 4 Although Beardo would fucking insist on crashing it and announcing everything that the Twins were doing and just ruin it, probably.

Speaker 1 I want to fight Beardo's dad.

Speaker 4 Yeah, Beardo's dad's the worst.

Speaker 1 He's like their agent. I want to fight him.
I would fistfight him. Yeah, if British.
Unless he's big, then I'm a billionaire.

Speaker 4 If Beardo's dad was in charge of an entire group under his management, that's what you're getting with Beardo's dad.

Speaker 1 But I liked him from afar. So what can can I say?

Speaker 1 People change, people evolve. Soften up, soft cat.
That's fine.

Speaker 1 Billy.

Speaker 5 So I've been doing a lot of cooking lately, you know, cooking at home, buying groceries.

Speaker 5 And I put in a lot of work, some of these meals, and then I'm like, hey, you know what? I'm going to post this online. And they just get...

Speaker 4 destroyed yeah never post pictures of your food online and if you do post it in black and white so everyone gets mad at you make a nice breakfast you know bacon eggs and grits and i make like that was bacon Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, well, I the most shocking part is Billy's eggs.

Speaker 4 Billy's eggs are just brown and crispy. How do you think? I thought that was a piece of beef jerky.

Speaker 5 No, what you do is you put, like, I have put milk in my eggs, and then they're like almost like a pancake when you do them. But apparently, the nice browning of the outside of the eggs is like

Speaker 5 not, but it's like better than gooey, icky eggs.

Speaker 4 Just learn to eat your eggs like a man.

Speaker 1 How? Did you delete the tweet?

Speaker 5 No, it's down there.

Speaker 4 And then everyone roasted my bolognese, which I thought was pretty scrumptious.

Speaker 5 You know, some air-fried vegetables.

Speaker 4 Anyway, you need to just stick to the basics if you're going to post it online.

Speaker 1 I'll become a huge air fryer guy.

Speaker 6 Oh, air fryers are goaded.

Speaker 1 Can I just say, like, air fryer,

Speaker 1 I think everyone has the exact same

Speaker 1 situation with air fryers. They buy it.
They think it's the greatest thing of all time. And then, like, a month later, you're like, this is kind of annoying.

Speaker 4 I actually, I got an air fryer and I never had one of my big first step of of loving it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I got it, and I was like, this reheats things decently, but I'd rather just put it in my cast iron pan on the stove, stir it around, reheat it that way.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, it's, it's, I, I think, I think 90% of people have air fryers, get it. It changes their life for a brief period of time, and then they're like, well, whatever.

Speaker 5 Well, are you meal prepping?

Speaker 4 It's great for meal prepping.

Speaker 1 Do I look like that?

Speaker 5 I think Hank and I appreciate it much more.

Speaker 1 You guys will. No, Hank's in the honeymoon phase.
When did you buy yours for? No, I've had one.

Speaker 1 You've used it? It was, I used it, never really used it, and then Billy's got me into meal prepping. And now I've got a lot of people.
Recently, you started using it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So you're in the honeymoon phase. No, but like I bought it.
Call me in a month. I've got the honeymoon thing.
All right, yeah, I will. Call me in a month.
I will. You know what I discovered?

Speaker 1 You got my number?

Speaker 4 Yeah. You know what I discovered yesterday? Because I was looking at my air fryer.
I was thinking about using my air fryer for some meatballs, and I ended up not using it.

Speaker 4 But I looked at my microwave and I was like, when did we just start disrespecting the mighty microwave? The microwave is the best invention, maybe, of all time.

Speaker 4 You put something in there, it gets so hot.

Speaker 1 You preheat your microwave first.

Speaker 4 You preheat the microwave. You put your shit in there, and it gets so hot in like 15 seconds.

Speaker 4 It boils water in 15 seconds, and everybody's just sleeping on it, acting like it's not the coolest thing in your kitchen. I agree.
Microwaves are pretty beat.

Speaker 1 Shut up. You don't know shit about microwaves.
That's just proved how good the microwave is. No, microwaves because microwaves are pee.

Speaker 5 Microwaves like make everything soggy.

Speaker 1 No. I've been waiting an hour and a half to get one in is now dead.

Speaker 1 No, P cap.

Speaker 1 Well, cap has been dead. P is now dead as well.

Speaker 4 So P is cap.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 I'm done. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Air fryers give a little crisp to it, and that makes it more seem like it's not some nuked piece of meat.

Speaker 4 Dude, you can put rice in a microwave for 15 seconds and your dinner's ready. It's insane.

Speaker 1 If you're cooking your steak in a microwave, I agree with you.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but

Speaker 5 like if you like meal prep stuff, if you're Billy, put it in a microwave, it's disgusting.

Speaker 4 Okay, if you live in Billy's house and have to cook human food for his dog, then use an air fryer. But for the rest of us, microwaves are goaded.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they are. All right, Jake, wrap us up.

Speaker 6 Nothing too crazy. On Sunday, came to the office, and I left my fridge cracked open the whole day.

Speaker 4 So wait.

Speaker 4 So when you went home, how open was it?

Speaker 6 Just cracked open.

Speaker 6 Enough to keep everything warm.

Speaker 1 So you threw it all out?

Speaker 6 Yeah, there wasn't much, though.

Speaker 4 I feel like Jake's a big throw-it-out guy once it goes bad.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Is your fridge sad? You give me a sad bow.

Speaker 6 It's like water.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 So wait, you threw out the water?

Speaker 6 No.

Speaker 1 But the water went bad.

Speaker 1 How much do you guys respect expiration dates on milk? Milk? I actually think a couple days.

Speaker 4 I'm woke about expiration dates on milk. I think usually it goes bad before the expiration date.

Speaker 1 I just sniff it. Yeah, I sniff it.

Speaker 1 The other day I made a yesterday. The expiration expiration date was the 17th, but I didn't want to buy new milk.
I just sent it.

Speaker 1 You know what's total bullshit? Expiration date on eggs. Eggs last forever.
Yep. Shut up about expiration dates on eggs.
Cheese and eggs.

Speaker 5 Ever. They're not even expiration dates.
They're sell-by dates.

Speaker 4 Right. That's true.
Yep. That's how they get you.
And then on cheese, even once it starts to get a little bit of mold, that's how the French love their penicillin, right?

Speaker 4 Yeah, it actually gets healthier.

Speaker 1 If you want the most fresh milk, get it from the back. As someone who used to stock shelves in a grocery store, they put the new milk in the back so people buy the more recent milk.

Speaker 1 So if you want to get that super, super fresh milk, go to the back.

Speaker 4 I just almost said my ice cream store.

Speaker 1 My grocery store, which is my ice cream store, changed where they have the ice cream and it fucked my whole week up. It's just in a different spot.
I saw Clementine. My ice cream store.

Speaker 1 Oh my God.

Speaker 4 Mint chocolate chip

Speaker 1 rec

Speaker 4 ice cream.

Speaker 1 I have to have it. I have to find it.

Speaker 4 I saw that.

Speaker 1 I just, I fully realized I just referred to the grocery store as my ice cream store.

Speaker 4 I mean, it is, right?

Speaker 1 It's where we get the ice cream. All right, numbers.
Good luck to everyone's bets. Game of the year over 54.
88. 6.

Speaker 6 44, 60. Last week's Wednesday's winner out of play.

Speaker 5 75.

Speaker 4 What happened to Joker? What you see?

Speaker 4 Is he arrested?

Speaker 6 No, he's just not playing.

Speaker 1 70.

Speaker 4 Oh, Billy.

Speaker 4 Went off your usual

Speaker 5 jaguars like to trip

Speaker 4 like fall physically or psychologically no they like eat stuff to make them trip or like they they cross lines and they're like they disrespect you trip wires gotcha love you guys

Speaker 4 Talking away.

Speaker 4 Oh, I don't know what I'm to say I'll change anyway.

Speaker 4 Today's a not the day to find you.

Speaker 4 Shy it away.

Speaker 4 Oh, I've been coming for your love of me.

Speaker 4 Shy it away.

Speaker 4 Oh, I'll be coming for your love of me.

Speaker 4 Take

Speaker 4 on

Speaker 4 me.

Speaker 4 take

Speaker 4 me

Speaker 4 on

Speaker 4 I'll be

Speaker 4 gone

Speaker 4 Needless to say

Speaker 4 I'm all descendants But being so a little away

Speaker 4 further learning that life is okay.

Speaker 4 Say up to me.

Speaker 4 Oh, it's no better to be safe than sorry.

Speaker 4 Say up to me.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's no better to be safe than sorry.

Speaker 1 Take

Speaker 1 on

Speaker 1 me.

Speaker 1 Take

Speaker 1 me

Speaker 1 up.

Speaker 1 I'll

Speaker 1 be

Speaker 1 gone

Speaker 1 and I'll care

Speaker 1 to

Speaker 1 change, change, change.