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Today is Wednesday, January 19th, and the Arizona Cardinals are frauds. Absolute frauds.
They made me so mad watching that game. Terrible.
I was offended watching the Cardinals last night. I think everybody who's a sports fan has a right to be pissed off at the Cardinals.
I was so mad at myself because everyone does this when watching sports or gambling on sports. You have an opinion.
You have a strong opinion. And then at the very last second, you go against your strong opinion for no real good reason.
This podcast has been forefront in the Arizona Cardinals are frauds for the better half of two months now. Cliff Kingsbury fades down the stretch.
Kyler Murray, you want to say he's injured? Whatever. I don't care.
They're just not an upper echelon football team. And then right before, I was like, Ooh, these teams know each other.
Three and a half points. The road team won both games this year.
This one's going to be tight. And it was instant.
You knew instantly that the Cardinals were going to get their asses kicked. And then we had the beautiful Kyler Murray, Carson Wentz play where, uh, I don't know what the fuck he was thinking.
He was about to take a safety. The thing is, it was bad that he threw it away, that he threw that interception.
That's really bad. The worst part of that play is that he spent about four and a half seconds in the end zone just hanging out, hoping that nothing bad was going to happen to him.
Then he feels the heat on his back. And by the way, Kyler Murray's gotten slower.
He was getting chased down by lineback by linebackers so he might be injured he might be injured but he was getting chased down from behind by guys that were about 150 pounds heavier than him on a regular bait maybe not 100 but like 100 pounds heavier he's also gotten softer he blocked me on twitter he I also saw that he blocked Greg McElroy on twitter so I think he just left the game and started blocking people I didn't at him and he's he's gotten slower too. Yes.
He's gotten slower, softer, and shorter. Yes.
All the bad things. Yeah.
It probably doesn't. That's, I'll just say it.
It's, if it were someone that I would want to have on the show, I would have not tweeted that they blocked me. I've seen Kyler Murray, that Dan Patrick interview.
I'm okay with him not coming on the show. Didn't we have Kyler Murray lined up for an interview at a Super Bowl, and it was right after he did the Dan Patrick interview? Yeah.
And then I think his agent was like, you know what? Kyler's tired right now. We're not ready.
So I just pulled up his profile. He does not block me, but Jake was saying that we should compile an all-blocked list, like the best players at each position for part of my take overall.
So, so far we have Kyler Murray as QB1. Now that Big Ben doesn't block us anymore.
Correct. Antonio Brown at wide receiver.
Mm-hmm. OJ at running back.
Mm-hmm. Who else? Any notable blocks out there? We probably should have done some research before we did this.
That was stupid. Not one that comes off the top.
Sorry. No, no.
Sorry. I'm sorry for being stupid.
No, no. It's not.
I'm not blaming you. It's just we have three that we know of.
That's a good start, though. That's all block list.
That's a good start. I wouldn't even know how to figure out.
I got tagged in a tweet, and I looked at his profile this morning. I was like, wait.
He blocks me? And then the Greg McElroy thing makes me think that he literally got home last night. I also, I'm going to give Kyler an out.
I'm going to give him a very easy out. It feels like maybe his dad runs his Twitter account for him and was maybe just watching the game and watching everyone just shit on him.
And again, I didn't add him. It wasn't like targeted harassment.
I just simply asked the question, is he okay? Does he have eyeballs? Because there was moments in the game last night where it felt like he just, I don't know what was going on. He looked drunk.
It was bad. The entire offense looked out of sync.
Even on the plays where Kyler Murray was escaping from pressure and finding a guy like seven, eight yards running open downfield, if he was able to hit him in stride, the receiver was just dropping it. It reminded me so much of those teams that you see where, like, the only explanation for why things go bad is that somebody had sex with somebody else's girlfriend or wife.
Remember, was it the 98th U.S. World Cup team? Yes.
And then ever since that happened, that rumor gets brought up every time a team starts to suck. Maybe Cliff was sleeping with somebody because the entire team looked like they just didn't want to be.
The only person who looked like they wanted to be there was probably, well, it was a kicker. Yeah.
Huffing those smelling salts. Matt Prater.
Matt Prater, legend. Kicking that 55-yarder that was a very sad field goal.
It was so bad that I actually said to myself, the Cardinals are so bad tonight, not even Matt Stafford can fuck this up. You know what I mean? Because if you're a Rams fan, what are you doing when you're going into the playoffs? You're like, we have everything.
We have all the skill positions. Cam Akers is back.
Aaron Donalds is going to wreck games. It essentially just comes down to, will Matt Stafford blow it in a big moment? If he doesn't, you could win the Super Bowl.
If he does, you're screwed. I'm not even saying when it was whatever it was.
The score was, what, 21? Was it 28-0? Yeah, I'm not even saying then. I'm saying when it was 14-0.
I was like, the Cardinals are so bad that Matt Stafford cannot screw this up. He's going to get his first playoff win.
And I don't know what you do if you're a Cardinals going forward. It's very hard to make a big change because you made the playoffs.
There was a point in time in this season that you were the best team in the football. But, man, there's a lot of questions with Cliff Kingsbury.
I actually threw this out there today, PFT.

I want to hear what you have to say.

I would be more confident if I were a Cardinals or Cowboys fan

if our defensive coordinator was the head coach and not the head coach.

Okay, so I was actually just about to say when you were like,

how do you fix this team?

I think that this is the type of team that you do the thing

where you hire a Vic Fangio, where you go with a defensive coordinator. Vance Shields has been great.
Yeah, you hire a defensive guy. You zig while everybody else zags.
You can't rebuild by hiring a great defensive mind. That just doesn't work.
I just don't understand. Because you need a quarterback to take you to the next level.
Your offense is awesome once you have Hopkins still out there. Yeah.
And everybody's healthy. Your offense is going to be fine be fine I think as long as you have an average offensive coordinator if you have like a defensive mastermind leading that team I think that's the way that you got to go you hire somebody that maybe you hire Dan Quinn yeah I just it feels like every time the Cardinals they are very reminiscent of uh like watching a triple option offense in that you know within the first five minutes is this going to work or is it not and like the cardinals you know like is their offense going to work tonight or is it not and then they just don't change it you know like they it felt like they couldn't block anyone and then they just kept on having kyler drop back and throw it deep and it was like what's every time you do this, it ends up in disaster.
Yeah. I'm going to be the body language police on Kyler Murray.
Don't like the body language. Well, did you see that? Bad body.
He looks like he's on sedatives when he goes on the sidelines. He's not talking to anybody.
He's not screaming at anybody. They always say, like, you want a guy that will grab somebody by the face mask.
I think that's a little bit aggressive. I don't think you have to grab a guy by his face mask all the time.
But Kyler is just like he's a loner on the sidelines, which is fine if you're a punter or a kicker or a nerd that nobody is supposed to care about. So Jeremy Fowler on ESPN said that he actually said before the game, he said talk to a veteran Seahawks player who said he didn't like Arizona this week because the Cardinals had bad body language in the Seattle game.
There we go. Cardinals loaded up on veteran leaders to instill toughness, but it's not enough.
There we go. I actually think that there is something to the body language experts out there that are able to read that.
You can have certain players. I think the list of players that it's okay for them to have bad body language or to not talk to people on the sidelines it would be a kicker a punter or like a psycho linebacker that nobody talks to because they're afraid they're going to get murdered don't talk to the gama to sue yeah don't talk to james harrison on the sidelines because he'll rip out one of his acupuncture needles and brain you with it right the gama to sue will step on your on your throat or your hand and say it was an accident yeah aaron Aaron Donald will choke you.
Yeah. Aaron Donald punched a guy.
Aaron Donald punched and choked. Yes.
He's in playoff mode. He's in beast mode.
It feels like every playoff, he just said, I'm just going to start punching people. Yeah.
Fucking them up. I do think that we should acknowledge Matt Stafford, though, for not fucking it up.
Yeah, no, he deserves credit for that. He could have fucked it up, but they made it very tough on him to do that they also monkey is off the back of matt stafford right now and they won a game where cooper cup wasn't like exceptional you know i mean cooper cup didn't have an insane night like he's had this season um and odell higby and cam acres i cam acres coming back in five months from from an achilles is crazy have we figured that out? Was it a partially torn Achilles? Because five months, it was like 175 days since he tore it.
That's way more impressive than J.J. Watt coming back in 12 weeks with a torn labor.
And he wasn't fully healthy, yeah. It was very obvious that he wasn't fully healthy.
Now that we're a bonk-free zone on this podcast, I can admit. Let your freak flag fly.
Yeah, let it all hang out. I had the same injury that J.J.
Watt had back in 2011. I got surgery on it and everything.
12 weeks after I had the surgery, I couldn't even jack off. And he's out there in an NFL game.
There's no way that he was 100%. Granted, I think he has better.
You need to switch hands? I think he, what, go with a stranger? Yeah. I don't know.
It's not the same. I mean, you definitely did.
It just didn't jerk off for 12 weeks. Correct.
That's crazy. No nut whatever month it was.
No nut autumn. Billy, as pro...
That was like a record scratch. As bro football doc, what's the status of Cam Akers' Achilles?

How was he able to come back so quick?

Dude, I don't know what these guys are doing nowadays,

but modern science has it down to a T.

Modern science.

HGH.

I don't think it was anything special.

I don't think he was healthy.

Like, I don't think he was.

No, I meant Cam Akers.

Oh, Cam Akers.

Because he looked really healthy.

JJ Watt was not.

So you think Cam Akers did HGH?

I think they're all doing HGH. Got it.
Okay. But it was really impressive watching him be able to.
He had that burst. Yeah, no.
He looked like a very good. He said he felt like great again.
Yeah, playoff Cam. It's crazy.
And now we're set. That was not the best super wild card weekend, I think we can all say.
There was one close game that was a ref show ref show four blowouts and one close game that was close because both teams just didn't want to win yeah we didn't really have a memorable oh my god that game was awesome like I'm glued to my tv type of game I have a question for all the AWLs out there because I haven't gotten a satisfactory answer on this yet but I noticed cam makers had the same almost towel hanging out from his backside that kyle jushik had for the 49ers it's like a skinny towel yeah that it looks like he cut up himself it doesn't really serve any purpose it's not a strap for his uniform for his pads or anything like that it just hangs out the back we're talking about jushik's on uh on the stream on sunday it's almost like a decoy for somebody out there i think it is and try to tackle like like it's a lizard tail it's a flag that comes off and you're able to run away with it speaking of which i i can't get enough of the stretchy shirts i think it's so cool when that happens when a guy's just when you try to when they try to tackle a guy and he's 10 10 feet away from his shirt Yeah, the shirt unravels as he's running away. It is cool.
There's probably some type of shirt technology they're using as well. Anti-tackle shirt technology.
Shout out also to OBJ's dad. Great job.
Great father. Yeah.
Getting him in a position that he can succeed. I actually thought halfway through the season, why is Odell asking to be freed? We all did.
Yeah. Because we saw him play in Cleveland, and it wasn't that he was playing well and Baker wasn't finding him.
It was that he was just unable to catch the ball at times in Cleveland. And then he gets to L.A., and all of a sudden he's really, really good again.
I did see there were some people who were like, this just proves that it's all about fit in the NFL and

like right place, right time, right teammates, scheme, everything. That is true to an extent.
Odell also has at times not helped himself. True.
And in terms of like teammate and you know, whatever. So it's, it, both things can be true at the same time.
Odell was in the wrong fit, wrong scheme, wrong everything, but he also wasn't exactly like an a plus model teammate at times right um with Cliff Kingsbury with this with the shine coming off the star of Cliff as we've seen the last two winners in a row do you think Ryan Russillo has to like eat his column he's probably down bad he's probably down bad he probably stayed over at Ryan's house last night after the game he'll probably'll probably keep... You gotta stay strong, I think, but between this and Chris Paul, who's a total choke artist.
They should just both live with Ryan. Yeah! I mean, he's, you know, just keep...
I think you just gotta stick with it. You gotta stick with it through thick and thin and hope that you come out the other side unscathed.
Blame Kyler. That's what I would do.
If I were still give any advice, blame Kyler, get blocked by Kyler, and then be like, free Cliff. Kyler, you can't win with Kyler.
Can you do that with a coach? Get him to a different situation? That's actually kind of how Cliff Kingsbury's entire career is going, where he gets a job somewhere, performs mediocrely at it, and then fails upward into a much better job. Correct.
So where do we need to get Cliff in the perfect position? I think he needs to go. You know what he needs to do? Rodgers to Denver, Cliff to Denver.
He needs to follow. He needs to coach Aaron Rodgers where he doesn't really have to coach.
Yeah, that would be a good fit for him. No, that's Matt LeFour.
We like him. I think that would be a good fit for Cliff if he were to just inherit the best quarterback in the NFL.
All right, so divisional round set, awesome game set. We will do a preview on Friday of all of those games.
Before we get to hot seat, cool thrown, I did want to make a quick announcement. I'm sorry to everyone here that people think a white guy can't enjoy black history.
Yeah, that was going to be on my hot seat. But, I mean, Darren Revell, maybe the greatest cell phone 24 hours of all time.
No, he's the least racist white person in history. Well, he literally has a card.
It's signed by Rosa Parks. Yeah, it's like him and Thomas Jefferson.
When you think of white guys that are racist, but not really racist.

It's Darren Revelle. He has an autographed NAACP Rosa Parks card.
Which is not autographed. It's literally you sign.
It's like saying your driver's license is autographed. Yeah, no, it's not an autograph.
It's autographed. He got it signed by her.
So for people who don't live online, this actually is a time that it's worth bringing him up because it's very, very funny. He has over nine pieces of MLK memorabilia, which actually just means he has ten.
Yeah, over nine was the funniest. Over nine.
And he showed it off on Martin Luther King Jr. Day, and everyone's like, dude, this is kind of weird because one of the pieces was a log from when Martin Luther King Jr.
was in jail, and had to sign the log autographs to receive his mail. And he's like, look how cool this is.
And everyone's like, that's kind of weird, dude. When he was wrongfully imprisoned and now...
And they're telling him to donate it. And they're telling him to donate it.
He should donate it. And then he went even further and he was like, well, I bought it from the warden of the jail, which is like, that's even more exploitative.
of and then he went even further and he was like uh well i bought it from the from the warden of the jail which is like that's even more exploitative uh and then he tweeted and deleted that you can't call him racist because he owns an extensive martin luther some of his best memorabilia is black and also he has black friends he has several black friends yes he has upward over capitalized black yes he has over over nine black friends, according to Darren Revell. It was so funny because then he hopped into the University of Miami Twitter spaces and defended...
We should play it. Let's play it.
His MLK collection. Let's put it in.
Let's put it in right now. Sure.
I have over nine MLK signed items. I am a humongous fan of what he's done.
And over the last seven years, I've collected a lot of things. It's not only MLK, it's a lot of black history.
I own a Rosa Parks signed NAACP card. So it was pretty shocking today how I was called racist when when I am a student and lover of black history.
And it was it was I never expected the reaction that I that I got today. I'm so I'm sorry.
I'm sorry if people think that a white man can't enjoy black history. I'm sorry.
I really am. I'm sorry if people think that a white man can't love Martin Luther King.
But to me, that seems pretty counterintuitive. You got me? So, yeah.
And then at the end when he signs off he goes you got that yeah and they're like yeah okay darren we we got that understand he talks about his mlk merchandise like it's shoes like he has it's actually him being like i got the largest collection of off-whites this side of the mississippi yeah and then he's like i bet you i bet you jaren revel is considered at least nfting the i have a dream speech of course you know what he'll do he'll nft the uh the black square that people put on their instagram uh when everybody did the media blackout last year jaren revel will nft that black square and then claim that he is he's the their true leader of the modern civil rights just want to know how, like, he's showing this. He feels comfortable showing this.
He's definitely got some fucked up stuff. Yes.
Like, have you seen American Beauty? Yeah. He's got some collections like that.
He's got, like, Muhammad Atta's cell phone. Behind the scenes.
And he's like, well, it's just he's an interesting person. Yeah.
On this day in history, American Airlines stock dropped 20%. Fuck, man.
It's so weird because this is going to sound stupid because I'm basically admitting that I follow Darren Revelle on not one but two platforms, but I do follow him on Instagram. I remember last week he was showing off one of his MLK pieces of MLK memorabilia and i remember thinking oh he's he's gonna tweet about this on monday and it's not gonna go well and then that exact same thing happened so it's like it's it's it's almost a cell phone for myself where i'm like i i follow him on two platforms that i know when he's about to slip up but him slipping up here was the the most obvious thing of all time.
I don't follow him at all on anything because my life, as it revolves around Darren Revelle, is basically like... Well, you won't fight him.
Other people will tell me when Darren Revelle is fucking up. And by the way, I will fight him.
You guys talked me out of fighting him. I heard you wouldn't.
No, you personally told me don't't fight i heard you wouldn't i said i thought you said i don't want to fight him because he probably could kick my ass you literally said i don't want you to fight him because that's what darren wants i will yes that's true i will fight darren revel i required no money to do it if i beat him darren has to donate his entire mlk collection won't happen All 10 pieces and his autographed rosa parks n double acp rookie card he actually has to donate it to the smithsonian i want no money i just want to beat him and make american history a little bit better he actually has a card that if someone's like hey dude you're racist he's like nope rosaACP card, right here. Mint condition.
I have it. It's an I'm not racist card.
Yeah. This is going to sound crazy, and I'm sure I'll change my opinion in a week, but watching this all unfold, I think he actually is a net positive on society just because of how terribly out of touch and insanely hilarious his unintentional comedy is.
He's actually reached a level where I enjoy him getting dunked on. He's Sean Bradley, who's...
I think he got hit by a car, right? So that's probably a bad reference. He's Bryant Reeves.
There we go. Or Rick Smits.
Yeah, he's Rick Smits. He gets dunked on for sport at this time, at this point.
So I think it's just remarkable that Darren has been able to be consistent in this for his entire career. He has not evolved.
He has not changed a bit. Considering the amount of negative feedback that he's gotten whenever he fucks up, he just hasn't changed.
He has not taken anything. He has not learned any lessons online.
And I think that's actually an admirable thing. His brain can't compute.
Like, he can't. I watched as people were trying to break it down for him, being like, you own a piece of history that shows, like, when Martin Luther King was in jail, it's not his his autograph he literally had to sign just to get correspondence this should be in a museum you own it and you owned it to turn a profit one day because that's what he does with all of his memorabilia sell it's fucked up and he's like no i love i just love black history i'm sorry that a white man can love martin luther king jr and he was I just love everything that he's done.
Oh, yeah? Name three of his speeches. But he did give us Jake, which is nice.
That's what I was going to say. I would not have a job here without him.
Yeah, so he's a net positive on society. I don't think he should like, you know, there's no cancel Darren Revelle.
I want him to just keep doing. I want him to keep living exactly how he thinks he should be living because he's

he's sideshow bob stepping on a rake like every month he will do something brought me in to troll him and yeah here we are almost three years later so we need to get you like a thurgood marshall no we should get jake we should get jake to like collect i don't know um maybe maybe jewish history yeah pieces of jewish history that you can show off to him work on it he but yeah no we we need to get you to collect something rare

that's like, what is this guy doing?

I'll think of something unique. Very weird guy.
I'm just glad that he didn't go JFK. He's definitely got some fucking bloodied lapel.
Yeah. That's what I'm saying.
This is not... He felt comfortable showing this.
You know he's got some fucked up stuff. Very has to well actually i think i think ravelle might be so out of touch and clueless that he shows everything it might be one of those what you see is what you get with darren yeah it's just shitty like it what you see is what you get and it just happens to be what you get with darren is just a clueless out of touch weirdo he hasn't he bought he recently bought a Viagra bottle.
No, a prescription, right? Yeah. No, it was Viagra.
It was Viagra. It was the pill bottle.
Yeah. Yeah.
So what a weird, weird guy. But I actually have come out in the other end where I'm like, I'm happy he exists because he provides unintentional comedy that you can't, like no one else does what he does to that level.
Like last night was so funny watching him try to defend everyone. His defense was literally some of my best memorabilia is black.
And that's what he was yelling about. It's black memorabilia that he's also holding hostage from American museums.
Are we sure that was actually him in the Twitter space last night?

Yes.

So, Billy, you think for an instant that if he had been going viral for his defense of his black memorabilia,

you think that if that was a fake, Darren would have just sat back and not said anything?

That's when getting too woke is bad.

Yeah, he would have.

You're like, that's not really Darren Ruffin.

He would have instantly been like, that's not me.

I actually own over 20 pieces of MLK memorabilia. Because it was so bad, I didn't believe it.
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He's like, the internet's being mean to me again. They wait till I sell this, this, uh, this bullet casing from Martin Luther King's assassination for $7 billion.
And now I'll be having the last laugh. I have an autographed, uh, letter from the director of the FBI telling MLK to kill himself.
How can I be racist? Yes, yes. This will someday pay for my kid's college.
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Daniel.

Hot seat.

Cool throne.

My hot seat is Philadelphia Eagles fans.

Oh, tough, tough weekend for if you're an Eagles fan. You guys got absolutely shit pumped.
In the playoffs, you're out. Tom Brady's your daddy.
And then a video surfaced of... You're addicted to developing enemies.
You can't go longer than... This isn't a developing enemy.
Yeah, but you're... This is pre-existing.
But you're poking an open wound. No, I have no choice.
I have to just go with what happens in the world and comment on it on this podcast. It just so happened that this Eagles fan was in, I believe, it must have been Las Vegas.
Yes. There was a Michael Jackson impersonator and the Eagles fan, as an Eagles fan does, picked a fight with him, started throwing punches at him out of nowhere.
As an Eagles fan does. And then the Michael Jackson impersonator just absolutely beat the shit out of him.
He reared naked and choked him. Which was just a funny visual because it's like Michael Jackson personator.
Oh, boom, this guy should be in the UFC. Do you think people should respect the tap even in the wild, right? Yes.
The whole time I was watching that video, I was like, dude, tap. Just bro, tap.
Tap out. I think a guy like that who obviously had MMA training would have respected the tap in that situation because the guy took him down with the old step around the back and then throw him, use your body as a lever, and then he positioned himself correctly.
So in his mind, Michael Jackson was in a UFC fight. That's as close as he'll ever get to the octagon.
So yeah, if you tap, I think he stands up, he goes back to his corner, moves on. Also shout out that fan because his shirt was incredible.
It had two Eagles fans at a urinal pissing and then a Cowboys fan shitting in the urinal and said, can't fix stupid. Yeah.
That's a good burn. That's just an old school, awesome rivalry burn.
Yep. And then my cool throne, these jumpsuits, first of all, we're all wearing them.

Me, PFT, Billy, Jake, wearing the jumpsuits.

We did a little photo shoot, posted some pictures.

A lot of people were asking where we can get them.

You can get them on the Barstool Sports Store.

And then my other cool throne is just humanity.

Humanity.

Well, not actually.

Except for Eagles fans.

Except for Eagles fans.

And Bill's fans. And Elon Musk thinks that there's going to have a population collapse and the world's going to end soon.
Oh, sick. All right.
Yeah. I mean, don't we need to kind of thin out the herd a little bit? Damn.
A lot of stupid people out there running around that you can't fix. Yeah, especially in Philadelphia.
Yeah. That's it.
I didn't mean to go so hard on Eagles fans. No, we're just going to make robots.
What? Robots. Robots are going to replace people? Yeah.
Wouldn replace people yeah yeah be a robot problem no i'd be fine with darren ravelle would never get in trouble again on twitter well yeah i mean darren ravelle is a robot yeah that's what i'm saying he would he would literally like people like good point darren so um hank can you power rank your current rivalries you have going on right now between fan bases which ones which ones are the meanest to you? Eagles fans, for sure. Are they the same as Sixers fans? Yeah.
Philadelphia as a whole. As a whole, yeah.
Bills fans have been very mean. I think it's more fair, though.
There's much more of a rivalry there. The Eagles fans, I don't understand.
We beat the Eagles in the Super Bowl. They beat us in the Super Bowl.
One to one. fans act like they just have complete domination and and and despite the fact that's the only super bowl they won in like a thousand years which just doesn't make sense to me yeah bills fans there are some bills fans that are like hey you know not all bills fans are mean we like you blah blah blah oh they're coming in peace bills fan yeah no there's not been a single Philadelphia person that's coming.
I love that.

Of course not.

I don't want them to.

Fuck that.

Be who you are.

All right, PFT, your hot seat, Cool Throne?

My hot seat is cake.

Yep, mine too.

I put cake on the hot seat because, well, Andy Reid really put cake on the hot seat.

They asked Andy if the Chiefs have the same championship hunger,

and his answer was, if you have a piece of chocolate cake and you see another dangling in front of you, you're going to want it. That's how you feel about the Super Bowl.
It is the ultimate chocolate cake. Yep.
I love it. Andy Reid, he just thinks of everything in his life as it's related to food.
The NFL, I had the entire NFL on the hot seat for that same reason that like once Andy figures out the perfect analogy for wanting to win another Super Bowl, you're screwed. Yeah.
He said earlier this month, I love how this team works together. Like I love a big piece of prime rib.
Right. So everything for him is like it's everything is a food.
So like a touchdown, I'd say like a touchdown is a sandwich like a hero sandwich yes but he he gets

very very into his food metaphors and once he starts thinking about food he physically gets hungry and then he's going to mentally get hungry and then the entire nfl next thing you know is in trouble yes yes i mean fucking andy he's the best he's the best my cool throne is steven a smith because he came in hot to celebrate the Cowboys' epic collapse on Sunday.

He put on the cowboy hat he did everything he danced around he was laughing at all the fans who were in misery and the entire time i'm watching steven a smith i think just one thing he he really truly has an audience of one for all the celebration yes and that's skip bayless yes he is sending he's he's not sub tweeting skip bayless he is sub living everything at skip bayless his entire life is a sub tweet to skip bayless because he misses him so much and they they miss their debates together you can try to convince yourself in line be like no skip really likes debating against dan orlovsky no skip really likes debating against max kellerman nothing is going to replace the void that skip bayless left in his life and i hope to god that i live to see the day where they reunite on tv again because there's an entire generation right now kids that's coming through high school coming through college that never got to live through a stephen a smith and skip bayless debate show and you have no idea how great it was yeah no you're right it was uh he put on he put on an a-plus performance off of covid too yeah it was his first time back he was hospitalized he almost died yes yes steven a smith said i would have dramatic till the very end i would have died if it wasn't for he said because of the vaccine right vax kellerman yeah he was he was literally saying he was on death's door um and thank god that we didn't lose the cowboys losing brought him back to life that's probably he he probably willed himself back to health because he's like i'm not going to die before i see mike mccarthy run a draw with 14 seconds left in the game,

I need to be around for that.

But the moral of the story is I just really hope that Skip and Stephen A.

get back together.

Did you see there was a lot of people who got fooled by the analytics tweet

that Mike McCarthy, like it was a fake quote that Mike McCarthy,

that was what the analytics called for, the draw play there?

No.

I got duped by that. Yeah, so people were shaming others for getting duped by that.
I think it's the opposite. It's that Mike McCarthy is so bad that that becomes believable.
That's a shame on Mike McCarthy. Yeah.
You know what I mean? Like, that's so – the fact that there was multiple people who thought that was real, that's not your fault. That is Mike McCarthy's fault.
That's a dangerous route because we catch a lot of strays with that too. What do you mean? When like if a story comes out about Barstool Sports that's just like completely made up about something.
Yeah, but this is a harmless one, not like a real one. Yeah.
This is a harmless, funny story. It's not like, you know.
I think that the real story is just as funny as Mike McCarthy saying that the analytics told us to go for that which is him saying like yeah we run this 14 second quarterback draw constantly in practice and in reality every other coach every other player that's asked about it says yeah that play takes about 17 seconds yeah jesus christ so funny what a clusterfuck all right my hot seat was also cake and then my cool throne. LeBron, the coach killer, is back.
It looks like Frank Vogel might get fired. There's a lot of rumors right now.
No one does it better than him. No one kills a coach better than LeBron.
It actually makes me think, like, Eric Spolster should be in the Hall of Fame right now for not having LeBron, you know, get him fired instantly. Who does he want? I don't know.
Probably one of his friends, someone he can boss around. The thing is, I don't think LeBron ever thinks a step ahead before he gets a coach fired.
I don't think he's got – he doesn't have a succession plan. Yeah.
Apparently, they're, like, going game by game to decide whether he's going to keep his job. So it says, Vogel coached the Lakers to a championship in 2020 and his contract runs through 2022-23 campaign is being evaluated on a game-to-game basis and remains at risk of being fired soon if the progress doesn't continue.
Which one of his sons is the one that the nerd was based off in Space Jam 2? Bryce Maximus. Yeah, Bryce.
Bryce probably plays a lot of 2K, right? That'd be very funny

if he had his son coach the team. He could do it.

Yeah. I mean, why not?

No one kills a coach better

than LeBron. This is going to be so fun.

They're essentially saying that

after every game,

LeBron's going to come off the court

and just be like, alright, he keeps his job one more game.

Just give him the look. Yeah.

He's just doing the fucking gladiator up and down

after every game for Frank Vogel's life.

Can you trade a coach?

You can.

I don't know.

Who would want Frank Vogel?

Yeah, I don't know.

Well, I don't know if you could trade a coach after you announce

or have reports that he's on a game-to-game basis.

That's such a tough spot to be in if you're going to go coach LeBron because you know that you'll have some success. Right.
But you also know that you'll be very publicly humiliated. It's also tough if you're game-to-game and, like, Russell Westbrook's one of your worst players, but you have to play him.
Yeah. But if you're trying to keep your job.
That dunk was sick. That was a sick dunk.
That was a sick dunk. Shout out Russ.
That was a sick dunk. All right, Billy, your hot seat, Coltrone.
My hot seat is U.S. air shipping and travel.
Turns out a bunch of the airline CEOs said that the new 5G radars that are getting put on for telecommunications, once they get turned on, it's going to affect a bunch of their planes' landing systems and that they're going to have to ground all U.S. air and travel tomorrow.
Tomorrow? actually is going to happen yeah i mean it's been they wrote a letter to be like really yeah they open they open lettered 5g exactly damn so it's supposed to by the way 5g has already happened in asia and europe already this might not happen in america all the commercials are 5g 5g 5g 5g 5g i don I don't know the precise reason why, but this might be another you-can't-use-your-cell-phone-on-a-plane type situation. Well, I can just as a more annoying version of 5G.
I think this is really just a move to re-up that, oh, you can't use your cell phone anymore on planes. Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know. This, to me, reminds me of the Y2K scare, where it was like, planes won't work.
Everybody is going to be living. It's going to be the apocalypse.
Right. People are going to be running around with torches trying to find their way in the dark.
The exacts is that R-A-D-A-L-T technology is affected by 5G waves and gives false readings. So no planes tomorrow.
So there might not be planes tomorrow, but who knows? Might not actually be true. I think they're just going to use it to tell people they can't use their cell phone on planes anymore.
That's going to really fuck with coaching searches. And my cool throne is runnings.
Cool runnings. The Jamaican bobsled team has qualified for the 2022 Olympics.
Goal. Yes.
Feel the run. There is an Olympics this year.
Get on up. Before the Super Bowl.
Not excited at all. No, you know what's going to be funny, though? Great movie.
So, like, everybody is boycotting these Olympics. It'd be very funny if...
Are we? We should. Yeah.
For political reasons? We should. Where are they? China? China.
Damn. I feel like...
Well, everyone but the NBA is... No fans, either.
Oh. Everybody except for Jamaica...
Or fucking NHL players. ...should boycott these Winter Olympics Olympics so Jamaica can get a gold medal in the bobsled.
I'd be fine with that. I'm down to boycott.
I'll boycott too. Alright.
Done. We're not the Golden State Warriors.
Done. What their owner said yesterday? No.
It was pretty fucked up. They asked him about the Uyghurs and the concentration camps and he was like, yeah, I'll be honest with you with you i just don't care there's a line of things that i care about and that is beneath the line of things that i'm supposed to care about good to know where his line is i i at least respect the fact that he's being honest about it everybody else in the nba is just like please stop asking me that question but at least he's like yeah you know what i make a lot of money so i don't care about people that are getting put into camps yes i mean that's we're boycotting so we're better than him give us the warriors i'm not even you know what i'm not gonna mention the olympics this entire winter i probably will mention it a couple times but i'm gonna boycott it no doubt yeah yeah uh hank or no i mean jake sorry my hot seat is any athlete not named marcus mariotta or Novak Djokovic because happy Marcus Mariota and Novak Djokovic Wednesday.
Why? Because a year ago, I listened to the clip this morning. It was just to remember that they exist.
Specifically Mariota, then we talked about Djokovic. It's kind of good timing with Djokovic.
Free him. But.
But Marcus Mariota does exist, and I actually... No, he's probably just a backup now.
I mean, he looked good whenever he played. Yeah, but it was like they were kind of gadget plays.
I graded all of his plays from this year, and he averaged out of an A- on film. I was going to say, my grade was 87.6.
No, I had a 91.2. Well, mine's out of 95.
Yeah, okay, so that's an A. Yeah, so we're on the same page.
same page yeah so it's the second ever day for that we were going back and forth on the date we moved it back a few days because we didn't want to interfere with hank sister's birthday got it all right happy birthday to hank sister all right so maddie yesterday but yeah mark oh yeah i remember i remember this now yeah marcus mariotta way to go dude you exist here we go um we love you You're welcome to come on the show. Same with Jokovic.
Wait, let's see if he blocks us. I don't think we have that many people blocking us.
In sports, it feels like. We do an all-block list of Brooklyn writers or something.
That would be extensive. Did he ever play after that concussion that he got? Yeah, he came he was suited up he got in a couple times yeah he was suited up for for the playoff game so good for him yeah back on the show every year uh january 19th and then my uh cool throne is the vermont catamounts making my return to burlington this weekend calling the game on espn3 everyone please.
Big Cat, this gives you one team in green and yellow to cheer for on Saturday night. Oh, because the Packers are playing.
Yes. I wasn't thinking about that.
I was thinking about they better cover. Yeah.
They better cover. Yeah.
They're 1-0, right? Yeah. My broadcasts are 1-0 in your system.
Yes, but they better cover because they're one and oh right or yeah my broadcasts are one and oh yes but they are but they better cover because i'm going to watch this game okay the whole game i hope they do i'm going to bet on it yeah espn 3 saturday seven o'clock so you better know the spread and you better better announce around it i want to see i want to hear i want to hear it you'll hear it hear. I want to hear it.
You'll hear it. Okay.
I want to hear it. You'll hear the reference.
If it's like a six or seven point spread. Yeah, if it's close, you'll hear it.
Yeah, but it's natural. What's your wink going to be? You got to have your signature wink.
I don't know. It's going to be a big number.
They're playing Hartford, who's two and ten. I'm going to tell you.
Usually it's somewhere around Ken Palm, so's look. Ken Palm has them winning by 18 I think.
Okay so let's say it's an 18 point spread and there's two minutes left and they're up 20 and Hartford hits a 3. What are we saying? Because I can give you...
You want some advice? Yeah. And Hartford just came back and now they're winning.
That's what you should say. In the eyes of some folks.
Yeah. But like if it's a blowout, announce it like that.
And Hartford takes a lead by one as they're down 17. So yeah, everyone please tune in.
Yes. If you don't tune in, you're a fucking scumbag.
Facts. Yeah.
Who are you working with? Bernie Saplicki, former Catamount. Love it.
Okay. How okay how's your chemistry with him it's great we did some work together when i was there as a radio voice uh i don't know a specific number i believe he's a father um yeah do you guys do like a steak dinner before the game no night before be nice to know each other yeah what if what if we gave you some money take him out for a steak dinner yeah do it because you always have to say like father i always hear like al michaels being like you know we went out for a steak last i just assume that it's a normal thing that yes every announcer has steak fair oh if there's shrimp i'll tweet about it okay okay yes yes so there won't be probably not in vermont in the winter yeah anything it's on a lake but yeah yeah Yeah.
All right.. Tune in Saturday night.
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Okay, we now welcome on a very, very special guest. It is, well, he's going to be a free agent.
It's Braxton Berrios. He is all pro Braxton Berrios.
Let's start there. That's got to be pretty cool.
You made all pro as a kick returner. That's insane.
All pro is something we should celebrate more because there's one pick for each position. You all pro appreciate it uh yeah i i was i was shocked i was actually i just got back from a vacation so i was getting my coffee i'd actually sat down looking at the ocean you know very nice peaceful friday morning and uh it just came up on my phone and it was like a twitter notification and it wasn't from like a big source It wasn't from the Associated Press.
It was just a notification, so I looked at it. Then I started texting people like, hey, is this real? You can't believe what you see on Twitter.
I texted, is this real? Then all of a sudden, it actually came out from the NFL and called my mom, called my dad. I was elated.
Not only that,, you are a free agent right now. So that was probably the second thought.
Like, oh, shit, now you're not signing just Braxton Berrios. You're signing all-pro Braxton Berrios.
That definitely changes negotiations. It's amazing what that designation changes.
So, no, it was – I cried. I'm not even going to lie.
I cried. Congrats, man.
I thought it was awesome. Man card.
And it's also like – I mean, kick returners. There you go.
Kick returners, it's a thankless position. It's a position that you've seen in the NFL kind of wane because of the kickoff rules and stuff.
So, you deserve it. You can't take that away from the game.
You can't. You just can't.
It's an exciting part of the game. And whether it's like, okay, you score you score you get absolutely crushed it's still a big part of the game that's it yeah like it's got to be a a scary position to play oh yeah and i but i will wholeheartedly say punt return is scarier than kickoff return but you will get hit harder on kickoff return because more speed they've been running i mean they've they're running from 60 yards you know and you know one one guy doesn't block or messes up the block or doesn't get them hardly at all.
And it's a full 60-yard start. I think sometimes people forget that.
But when you watch even a touchback, if the kick goes straight into the end zone, you'll see the referee signals for a touchback. Great call.
Great arm signal. And then three seconds after that, you'll see guys still slowing up, sprinting in the end zone.
Yeah. Because they were going that fast.
That fast. Like when they got to the 20, they had to just.
They just coasted. Yeah, they just coasted all the way in.
So, yeah. It's a full-on, head-on collision.
Yeah. And who votes for All-Pro? It's the actual, like, media.
So, like, the actual people in the NFL. So, it's not like the Pro Bowl where it's, like, fans and, like, a popularity-Pro is like, I think it's like the 50 of the top like media of the NFL.

It's similar to the MVP vote.

I'm pretty sure it's almost the exact same.

I think it's the same people.

Because I remember I looked up, there's one year that's very, very weird.

And I'd have to double check it that like Joe Montana made the All-Pro, but John Elway won the MVP, which like never happens.

Usually All-Pro tells you who's going to win the MVP. the MVP but yeah it's a crazy it's awesome for you um so your career like let's just get this out of the way the jokes that were made when you were coming out of college and being like you're gonna get drafted by Bill Belichick when that actually happened were you like is this is this a prank because I think there's there's very few times where we see a player in college and we're like, oh, he's definitely going to get drafted by the Patriots, and then it happened.
Then it actually happened. Yes.
No, I heard it all coming out. And when it actually happened, I was like, wow, you guys were right.
He does have a type. Yeah.
You guys nailed that one. I looked back at my tweets in 2017.
I said, congratulations to future New England Patriot Braxton Berrios. And then Danny Woodhead got involved.
I remember Danny Woodhead was the guy that actually, he turned me on to you. He was like, yo, this guy's not just sneaky fast.
He's fast fast. That's the worst.
That's the worst. The whole sneaky fast.
Deceptively. Yeah.
That's the worst. What's the most important thing to have a receiver like you? I've always thought it's wiggle.
Do you have wiggle? I have wiggle. Yeah.
Wiggle's important. Wiggle's important.
And, like, of course, like I hate saying this, but, like, quickness is important, especially because you're going across the middle. Right.
So it's like you've got to be able to, like, you know, you've got linebackers in there and safety's coming from 10 yards. Like, you need some wiggle.
Yeah. So then what was the conversation when Belichick had to cut you because you you know you had an injury they had uh they were trying to fill up their roster spot with four or five guys for wide receiver yeah was he did he cry when he had to cut you he's like i i loved you since the second i set eyes on you yeah it was uh it was a tough conversation obviously and um you know he was obviously very he was very complimentary and you know know, they're very professional about everything they do.
And that's the problem. I mean, when you get injured over there, it's a little different.
You know, it's looked upon differently than other places. And it's just – that's what it was.
Yeah. And, you know, luckily it landed me on my next spot, and that kind of led me to here.
So it is what it is. It wasn't a fun time.
Well, and you had the rare one where I think I read that Belichick called Adam Gase and was like, you got a really good one here. So Gase actually told me that story towards the end of that season.
So we were sitting in a walkthrough on Saturday, and somehow something came up, and he said, by the way, I never told you this story. And he told me that story where Belichick called him and he thought it was about Damaris Thomas at the time because Damaris Thomas was with me in New England at the time and then he came over to New York.
And he said he didn't talk about Damaris at all and he said, hey, man, you really had a good one. We wish we could have kept him.
And it's cool, obviously, hearing that from Bill Belichick. But, yeah.
Okay. Some would say – I've heard people say that you're undersized, but you're 5'8 and 5'8.
You're the perfectly average-sized person. It doesn't get any more perfectly average-sized than that.
I used to be 5'9, but then I got COVID. Now I'm 5'8.
It does it to your spine, I heard. It does.
It compresses it. It's a shame.
So stay safe. I hope that you're vaccinated.
But being a smaller wide receiver in the NFL, is there any advantage at all to being a little bit on the smaller side? Because there might be certain things that guys are used to playing against bigger, taller, wider. Is there anything, like any small, tiny little thing that we might not think about that it might actually help to be a little bit shorter i mean i i guess to uh yeah i mean i can i can avoid hits a little better you know a little a little quicker you know because like you know you see two or three guys coming at one time and you just you find we call it find a pocket yeah like i can find a pocket a little bit you know hundreds quicker than a guy who's 6'1 can so like that's obviously a uh a plus there there's less of you to hit exactly yeah you're closer to the ground i actually think that that is true being able to fall correctly in the in the nfl oh it's a huge skill yeah you getting tackled is a skill yes you got to learn how to fall and like that's why you see a lot of people like shoulders when they get tackled because like and sometimes get caught, let's be honest.
But, yeah, you've got to learn how to fall.

Like, there's right and wrong ways to fall.

Yes.

It's not always worth it fighting for an extra yard.

No, no.

It's way more worth it getting your body in the right position.

Absolutely.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

We've got to talk about the U because it's back.

You're back.

I mean, yeah, and Cristobal and also the NIL deals.

Dude, that's another story. Let's start there.
That's another story. Are you sitting there like, fuck, I really wish that I was four years younger than I am because I could have gotten some nice money at the deal.
Yeah, no, 1,000%. I think it's obviously a great thing.
I think college athletes should be paid. Yes.
But I also think it should be regulated in some sense. The way that they're doing it is kind of a free-for-all see that that's interesting you'd say that because i would think miami would be one of those schools that like let's just have it be like if you're a northwestern fan or like oregon state fan you're like we need to regulate it yeah because we're never going to be able to compete oh absolutely from a recruiting standpoint yeah miami has the upper hand on 95 plus percent of colleges.
Right. A, you Miami.
And that was always the thing. My thing was where did you want to be in January and February? Like in college.
When football's over, where do you want to wake up and go to school and walk outside? And obviously that was a no-brainer. And so from a football standpoint, NIL is the best thing that ever happened.
Because now you can use all that you had and now tack on money to it and that you're in the city of miami yeah no they run away with it so you would have you would have done nicely i know i know you were recruited you recruited by some big big time schools ohio state clemson um who else was on that list uh oregon whether you were considering oregon so i you know now that we have nIL and recruiting is talked about so much and obsessed about so much, like, what was the – besides weather, what was the difference maker between Miami and the other schools? And, like, what was the pitch that you almost went to? So I was very close to going to Tennessee. Interesting.
I was very close to going to Tennessee. And, honestly, what won Miami was that that my dad's from Miami and I grew up a Miami fan.
So I grew up a Hurricanes fan, a Dolphins fan, all that. So literally loyalty kind of won that over.
Right. Because like, you know, I went to Knoxville and it was the Tennessee Georgia game and it was the checkered game.
So, you know, Neyland was checkered. There's 107,000.
it went into overtime tennessee ended up winning i think like it as good as it could have been on a visit it was and it actually happened to be my birthday that weekend too so like it was just so that was like my last visit so that was october like sixth weekend and the 12th is when i committed so like after that i was like oh man and you saw the power tee and all that stuff. Yeah, and I mean, it was awesome.
It was a college, like, you know, not powerhouse necessarily, but in the sense of, like, football, like, it was hard to beat Neyland Stadium. Do you think most guys do it off of, like, that visit has a big effect, or is it facilities? I'm just fascinated by recruiting just because it's going to change so much in the next 10 years or 15 years.

Or is it the staff is like – I know Saban probably just says, do you want to be a pro?

And if you want to be a pro, you come here and then we'll make you a pro.

I mean, they earn that.

They don't really recruit like that.

They don't.

I think it's very personal to the person, truly.

I don't think there's one thing gets all, but I will like official visits like to games like I think that can like make or break you know so like if you're playing a bad team and you know the stadium's not gonna be filled like maybe not have officials yeah that weekend like I think that could be like a bad thing do you think winning and losing that game matters because I love I mean I just love fanatical crazy college football fans and they'll be like yeah we not only lost but we only lost, but we had this guy, this guy, and this guy in the end zone. No, I think that has almost – unless you get, like, blown – like, embarrassed, I don't think winning or losing matters in official visits.
Yeah. I always think it's like the last visit you take has – that's the one that's fresh in your mind, right? Yeah, recency.
Yeah, the recency bias is a very real thing for anybody, but especially for, like, a 16-, 17-year-old kid that's making this decision. And, you know, they're at they're gonna remember that in their heads they're gonna be like yeah you know what i had the best time of my life last weekend but i think this might be better so you want to be that the last coach to talk to a guy but what about um what about people that like random adults tweeting at you when you're 17 being like hey come to knoxville we need you not like did that have any effect on you no i i think it's like i think it's like cool until it becomes weird you know i think there's a fun like it's cool like when the fan base like now knows who you are you know and you got offered from that school and like that first like week cool and then i think like after that like it becomes a little weird and almost annoying so you go ahead i was gonna say did you uh did you have any hand in creating your own like highlight reel from from high school or did somebody else do that for you no did you have like input to the soundtrack on it no I think somebody else did my for me well first it was like huddle you know like that was like complete coaching staff like and I think I ended up doing a little bit of that as well and then like whatever is on like YouTube I had no control you know like I'd had no hand in that yeah it's always um it's always let the bodies hit the floor headstrong is another big one and then sometimes i'll put like nickelback as a soundtrack but it's really oh down with the sickness there's like four songs that you can put as your yes as your mixtape so while we're talking about uh crazy college football fans um are you aware of danny boy cane he's funny.
They told me you were going to bring him up. Well, he's the biggest Kane fan in the world.
Yeah, aware, but aware. But, okay, good.
So shout out him. Can you shout him out? Shout out Danny Boy Kane.
There we go. That's all I need.
That's all I wanted. We're about Hulk Kaniak.
No. No, Big Papa Kane, Hulk Kaniak.
Throw him out. They're giving him a hell of a time.
Do you think the U will actually be back? Because it is one of – that game against Notre Dame when you scored, I remember just sitting there being like, this is it. Like, the U is back.
This is what it should feel like. A big Saturday night game, Miami packed house.
And then, obviously, you guys were not back, even close to back. I think you lost in, like, Shreveport to Louisiana Tech or something.
Not that year. That year we went to the Orange Bowl.
Okay, all right. But the year after, yeah.
Before and then after, yeah. Yeah, that was the easiest bet of my life.
Miami goes to Shreveport in December. I don't think they want to be there.
Shreveport was it. Because we went there my freshman year as well.
Yeah, I don't think they want to be there. They have casinos.
Yeah, I think they have two casinos. They do.
It's like Margaritaville and one other one. Yeah, yeah.
I've been to both. I've been thrown out of one.
It's always gray in Shreveport. It's in the south, but the sky color is just gray, overcast, but it never rains.
That's exactly how it was for our game. It was like a light, light rain.
It was like a mist, and then it would shut off, and then it missed again. Yeah, you guys don't want to be there.
So 0-10, 10 being all the way back where are they right now well like you said like the notre dame college game day we're supposed to get blown out all that like that was highlight of college career like that was awesome yeah like the coolest thing ever you do the convict uh touchdown yeah yeah yeah so really like that was a moment where you said like we were like shit we we might be back right and then lost last game of season and then in the ac championship game to clemson and uh i think now i think i think chris will is the right guy and my thing is like even alabama right even alabama in alabama's prime and also clemson had a run you know recently too like those teams like the U back in those days was like dominating everybody 24-7 like it was just different and the landscape of college football was different so I think to get back there is probably impossible you know because it's just like it's a different day and age but I think the U can still mean something and I think Chris Wall is the guy to do it like right right now we're like a out of

at a three right three out of ten you know like we have the u on our helmet we have the turnover chain and like i think he's gonna get done get rid of that i think you have to paul chris i'm a wisconsin badger paul chris killed the turnover chain yeah was that you were in that game the orange ball yeah that was yeah okay so yeah yes he killed it when he when a guy like a true Midwestern dude wearing gray sweatpants is like, turn over, chain my ass, it's over. It's dead.
It was tough. We killed you.
I think we should have a rule. If we're losing more than 14 points, the turn over the chain doesn't come out.
No props. Yeah, no props.
That's just not cool. As an offensive player, were you allowed to look at the – did you ever get close to it, or they were like, this is a defensive thing? No, no, no.
We could no we got we could get close to it and also like if we're on special teams like a couple offensive guys got it i never did yeah but uh but you know any turnover counted if you so if on offense you had thrown like an interception you chase the guy down knock the ball out and recover it yeah do you get the job i'm definitely running off the field for a play to get the turnover yeah yeah you gotta take advantage i forgot that was that was that orange bowl. Yeah.
That must've sucked though. Cause Paul Chris did like, he's got the least swag of any coach in America and I love him, but he, yeah, he ended it for you.
Yeah. It was tough.
That was a tough loss. And it was that game was in Miami.
It was in Miami. It was a home game.
Yeah. We killed you.
Right. Uh, 10 points.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. I never was doubting it though.
Let's just say that i wasn't uncomfortable fair enough yeah all right so bad like i do just want miami to be back it's one of those schools good for college football right and it's like they're the bad guy it's just fun i i actually love the fact that they're outwardly being like here's all the money we're paying nil i want that to happen you know what i mean yeah well that's like that's their pull now right's their pull now. That's one of the biggest pulls.
We haven't been one of the best in the ACC for three, four, whatever years. More than that.
Well, we went to the ACC championship game four years ago. Yeah, but Clemson is just...
No, Clemson was far and away. And I think they won the national championship that year, too.
Yeah. No, they're the peak of ACC until this year.
Yeah. The good news is the ACC kind of sucks now.

Although Clemson had 10 games.

That's the best part about Clemson season.

Everyone's like, Clemson sucks.

Like, they won 10 games.

And they lost by seven to the national champion.

But the ACC was just bad this year.

Just like, it's very easy to be, what is it, king turd on shit mountain.

If you can pay enough money and if you can be like, the U's back, come here, look what there's definitely like an opportunity there's a window for you to be back i think i saw something this morning on instagram where it like listed there was like 20 guys almost that got paid like anywhere from 35k to 50k yeah no yeah that was yesterday they announced it yeah i think it was with with you guys the rosenhouse guys yeah yeah they're hooking Let's nice yeah let's get it go to the u you get paid we're going to get back to braxton in a second but before we do want to talk to you about hello fresh hello fresh is a great meal prep service it's delicious it's fast it's easy the new year is a great time to focus on what's most important to you whether it's saving money by ordering ordering less takeout, learning to cook, or prioritizing your wellness, HelloFresh is here to help with endless options to make cooking at home simple and enjoyable. They deliver pre-portioned ingredients right to your door.
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On the Jets now, on the Jets this season

and last season,

I gotta ask you about Dr. Heat, about Greg

Williams, former defense coordinator.

So, we've heard stories that in practice he would just send the house against the first-team offense, and Adam Gates would have to be like, Hey, man, we're trying to work through some other stuff over here. I know that we're not going to get blitzed every down on Sunday.
Can you maybe just dial it back a little bit for a few plays? Is that remotely true? In the competition periods? A thousand percent. But those are, hey, you call your defense, we'll call our offense.
Not in the scout team periods because the offense handles the defense on the scout team period. So that's not necessarily true.
He just loved to blitz. Big, big cover zero guy.
Blitz all the time. I like i like that um zach wilson we'll talk about him but before we talk about zach wilson did you get caught up in mike white hype like we did that's my that's that's my guy i mean we thought he was joe montana absolutely i mean he come he starts his first game in four years those for 400 yards and four or five i mean like yeah we were how could you not we were we were all the way swept up and i mean the bangles are what the number yeah yeah they're good you guys were tight yeah you beat the titans and the bangles yeah did you think about telling mike like hey you should fake you should pretend that you sprained your ankle that's why everybody said like just walk walk off on that one you know that was pulling antonio brown but no no he was he was in his own he was feeling it and like he came on the meeting was like well if you ask me I should have been the number one pick like you love that yeah you absolutely love that like as your quarterback yeah that's phenomenal how how was uh like Zach Wilson's rookie year I you know dealing with a rookie who has to get everything thrown at him a team that you know is in a rebuilding phase do you think did you see it did you see the flashes you're like okay this guy's legit no absolutely and you can like there's flashes all throughout the year you know, is in a rebuilding phase.
Do you think, did you see it? Did you see the flashes? You're like, okay, this guy's legit. No, absolutely.
And you can, like, there's flashes all throughout the year. You know, like the Tennessee, like, pointing to Corey Davis, like, making a play within a play.
And, you know, obviously he got hurt until he was out, whatever, those few weeks. And then he came back and, like, was a better, you know, learned a lot in that time and was a better version of himself in the second half than he was in the first half of the year.
And, like, you know, you see that growth within one season.

And, like, you've got to take in learning the offense completely, like learning your teammates completely.

You have the New York media.

And then it's NFL football.

Right.

It's going to be tough for anybody.

And, obviously, you know, a rookie is just heightened that much.

Do you think he should maybe ditch the headband when you guys are getting your ass kicked?

Because that always – it's similar to a turnover chain. When you're getting your ass kicked and you have a headband, it's like, no, no, no, take that off.
But that's him. Yeah, I think you got to still take it off.
Really? I think you just got to, it's like a mood ring. He just has to like, all right, we're getting our ass kicked.
So when he takes it off, he's just throwing up the white flag and saying, yeah, I'm quitting. Well, then you could fake him out and take it off and then come back on him but then you're mean then you're playing with yourself well no you're playing with them no you're not allowed to do that he's a mormon i'm sorry you set me up for it yeah latter days are for the boys that's what we say around here um all right so who who's the most uh influential guy in the pro level on your career i have an answer but i want to hear your answer first growing up devon hester okay which is like funny because like i'd never really been a kick returner for a whole season until this year and you know obviously all pro but like growing up like he was like my idol my idol yep yep what were you gonna say uh i was gonna say julian edelman because you have figured out a way to post a ton of pictures with your shirt off on Instagram, which I'm guessing Edelman's – it was like playbook in one hand and then Instagram in the other.
And Jules was like, all right, so anytime you're anywhere near a beach, make sure you get at least like four or five pictures so you can pop them off later. See, but I didn't think he was that big of a shirt-off guy.
Did you ever see his Father's Day post where he's like,

Happy Father's Day, love you, Dad.

And it was just a picture of his dad, like, over his shoulder

while he had his shirt off.

Like, you couldn't even see his dad.

All you could see was Jules' abs.

That was a self-suck.

Good for him.

Good for him.

But you're pretty – I mean, look, if you got it, flaunt it.

But was Jules – did he say that to you?

Like, hey, man, the key to this league is make sure you have your shirt off whenever you're taking an Instagram picture. He was instrumental in a lot of things.
Instagram was not one of them. Okay.
But, I mean, yeah, we had a few conversations. Maybe it was just, yeah, he just influenced you without you even knowing.
Exactly. Yeah.
Did anyone ever accidentally call you Julian or Wes around the Patriots facility? On purpose, absolutely. Not accidentally.
It's like, we got another Wes. This is Wes 3.
Yeah, well, speaking of Mike White, he refers to Julian as, like, dad. So he'd be like, hey, have you talked to your dad recently? He does it all the time.
Yeah, these pictures. You had a stretch there where it was just shirt off every day.
I'm looking at Julian. Julian's actually cleaned up.
Well, I think we've changed. I'm like, recently.
He's a dad. Yeah, and he's a dad.
We put it in his head that, like, the Father's Day one was- A little much. You literally wouldn't know.
You wouldn't be able to see his dad in the picture. So it was like, he's like those TikTok kids who are like, you know, like, shout out Nana.
And then, like, Nana's him and they're doing a video. Shout out my dad here, my abs.
I mean, you're a good looking dude. So I guess you deserve to do it.
Man card? No, listen, we're supporting each other in 2020. Yeah, guys.
I love that. Yeah, right.
Love that. So we can say that about each other.
So keep posting them. Just be careful about how many because then we will start.
Like probably our fans are going to get in your mentions now. Fair enough.
Like, oh, shit, thirst trap. That's just a mental game, though.
If you can overcome that, you can overcome anything. Okay.
Yeah. Let the games begin.
You had one of my favorite plays of the year this year, which was the design lateral downfield. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that was sick. Cocaine.
Is that what it's called? Yep. The play is called Cocaine.
That was it. Was it from Adam Gase's days? Wow.
That's amazing. That was his offensive line.
Yeah, that was the play call. Yeah, so it's a great play.
I'm a big advocate of more planned downfield laterals in football. I think it will change the game if you can execute it.
If you can execute it. I know a few teams Yeah.
I'm just kidding. I know a few teams tried it.
A few teams tried it and it didn't go so well. Right, because they don't coach the players to throw the laterals correctly.
They don't coach the players to stand at adequate distance behind the player and then run onto the ball, right? But you worked it out perfectly. Yeah, we had that one in the playbook actually for a few weeks and like you know we'd put it in when the defense on third and whatever third and long long would give us a look and so finally we got we called it and everybody in the huddle's like smiling all right well this is going one or two ways and it worked yeah it worked phenomenally it's great when when teams run it when it's not a desperation situation because if it's desperation the other team sees it coming a mile away absolutely and they're able to defend it, cause some turnovers.
It's great when teams run it when it's not a desperation situation because if it's desperation, the other team sees it coming a mile away. Yeah, absolutely.
And they're able to defend it, cause some turnovers. It was like in the second quarter or something? Yeah, it was like in the second quarter, and if you throw it towards the sideline, then if you miss it, it goes out of bounds.
Not a big deal. Really no harm done.
I want you to continue. I want to give you positive reinforcement on that play.
Continue to innovate. It is a cool.
Tell coach, I know this podcaster who's very happy with the fact that you ran this play. We should continue doing that.
Whoa, you're talking to the Jets right now? Why? Are you being tampered with? Of course. No.
Are you open to being tampered with? So you So you guys have started talks? Why wouldn't I?

You guys have started talks?

We've talked.

We've talked.

We've talked.

We've talked.

Don't do it.

We've talked.

So let's do a headline grab.

What's your favorite city in America?

You like Miami?

Raleigh, North Carolina.

Raleigh, North Carolina.

Oh, okay.

Panthers?

Oh, you want to be reunited with Sam Darnold?

Did that hurt your feelings sometimes when people were like, Sam Darnold hasn't gotten a fair shot. His best receiver is Braxton Berrios.
Yeah, no, that hurts. Absolutely.
And luckily, I don't see many of that, but somehow it comes off. It's like, oh, Zach Wilson had Braxton Berrios to work with.
And it's like, I'm sorry. My bad.
Just a total, you're just minding your own business and you're just going yeah exactly straight i didn't hurt anybody um are you looking to maybe try to get out of the afc east for the first time in your career i'm indifferent i'm indifferent like i like i don't i don't look at i don't look at it as like oh i want to go to this division or this conference you know like that's not that's not like where my head's at at least what's uh if you're if you're listing your values for what you're looking for in a football team well yeah here are the values that potentially a football team has um no state income tax near a beach or brutally cold list those three power rank those power rank yeah One, two, three. Oh.
Yeah, like what's most important? Out of those, no state income tax. Okay.
All right. Then I would say beach.
Okay. And then brutally cold.
Okay. So Miami.
Yes, the Dolphins. Or the Bucs.
Or the Bucs. Danny Amendola.
Yeah, he could go to the Bucs. Or he could go to the Bucs.
You could, yeah, follow Tom Brady. follow Tom Brady.
Has Tom given you a call? I'll rephrase that. Were you offended when Tom did not give you a call to be like, hey, come down to Tampa Bay with me? No, no.
I understand my place there. It wasn't there yet.
It is fair, though, to say you are a Super Bowl champion, right? Technically. You've got a ring.
I do. Yeah.
Now, is that a ring that you would take out and wear or no no never it's i mean it's it's it's huge yeah but also it's just not like maybe like for one thing you know like but i don't even know what that one thing is like where i would wear it to like i don't know an appropriate setting a reunion of that team that would probably be it yeah yeah what do you think your like most important contribution to that team was that year well obviously not much on the field um but you have to yeah let's be very very clear but you have to tell yourself like you were on that team yeah no no doubt and that's things that you do and that like is like the hard part like as a competitor it's like you know like you see it and like obviously it's it's very good and you can say that you have a ring and you know i do and all that's great but it like it sucks on the other sense but i mean i was still there i was in the meetings i honestly i did most of the scouting reports like each week and like i'd give them to all the guys so like yeah i try to uh help in any way i can that's i mean belichick's probably the best coach to probably the best coach to be on a team where you're not getting a lot of field time, but you're on the practice squad because he probably is like, he's the most important part of the organization. Like Belichick would definitely say.
Well, I was on IR. Yeah.
I wasn't, yeah. Yeah, yeah, but like he was the most important part.
Yeah, no, I mean, and honestly, like the learning, the pure learning experience there is, like, absolutely invaluable.

Like, that whole year. Like, I learned more about, like, football.
And then, you know, obviously got to listen to Brady take over a meeting and say, hey, guys, like, this is how I look at it. Like, this is.
And, like, that going to that to now, you know, a rookie quarterback, like, I can start to see, like, okay, what he's saying. And, like, everybody says, like, be friendly to the quarterback.
Like, I know when the coverage goes all which ways, like, I know what he feels is open, and, like, that's where I'm going to try to show up. It's funny you say, like, the competitor in you, because obviously if you make the NFL, you have an insane competitive drive, and, you know, you're able to do things that, you know, 99.9999% of the world can't.
But I hear that, and I'm like, man, I would love to win a ring just being on the bench and never playing, never having any pressure and just being a dude that hangs out. Yeah, but it feels much better when you feel like you're earning it.
I know, because you're you and I'm me. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, there's a big difference. See, if I stepped onto the field, I'd probably die.
That'd be the most scary part of my entire year. I would hate stepping up.
I be on the sidelines. Like rooting them on.
I'm watching the NBA team, I'm like, the 12th man, that guy's cool. That guy's awesome.
I'm the first guy to put your fours up at the start of the fourth quarter. You're the ringleader.
I actually truly was that guy in high school football. That was the only thing I was here.
I played a little bit of wide receiver kicker and a little bit of scout team fullback, which I was way too small to be playing. Had no business to it.
How much of your time is spent on your outfits? Not much at all. It feels like you've upped your game.
Thank you. Yeah.
But not much. Well, day to day, I'm in sweats.
Right. Every day in the season, I'm in sweats.

So finally, when I get to blow the dust off the back of my closet and do something, it's all there. Mm-hmm.
Because you do. Yeah.
I mean, the pictures. Are you looking right now? Yeah, I'm looking.
I got a whole thing. Do you have a- I'm getting on this checkered suit coat.
It's pretty nice. More players should bring two sets of clothes to a game.
One if you win, one if you lose. lose yes well like the reindeer outfit was like i wore reindeer outfit after jacksonville which was the day after christmas or the day after that and like that was the same thing like i wore normal clothes in there and i had the onesie in my bag and it was never going to see the light of day if we lost right but i agree and i honestly i do so like i'll have like an outfit whatever i wear in and like you know say it's like a suit or whatever And if we lose, like, I'm not putting that back on.
Like, whatever I wear in, and say it's a suit.

And if we lose, I'm not putting that back on.

That's going in the bag.

I'm putting my sweats on and I'm walking out.

That's smart.

That's a very heads-up thing to do.

I feel like more players should take that into account.

Because when you show up at the podium, yeah, and you've got a live,

like a barely dead raccoon wrapped around your head.

And you're talking about how you went five for 22 with three interceptions like that's not that's not helping anybody yeah no i know and and it's funny like i don't know how many people think of that but like that's something i do i was like well if we you know this ends up happening we lose i don't want to look like that guy you know that like yes i'd rather look good than win when you were on the patriots was that when josh mcdans left for like 12 hours? That was before. That was right before.
I think that was a year before. All right, yeah.
So he obviously came back because he's trusted to be the head of that offense in New England. But then on the other side, you've got an up-and-comer running the defense, Steve Belichick.
Is that his normal voice? Or is he fucking with all of us to make us think that he sounds exactly like his dad?

No, I think as much as he would love to mess with everybody, that is his actual voice.

He just sounds exactly like dad, huh?

Yeah.

Does he do those weird mouth things during practice?

Or is that just when he knows the camera's on? No comment.

Was it really weird when Sam Darnold got mono?

It was pretty funny. Yeah, okay.
Was he able to take a joke about it oh yeah yeah there was there was a time that he like wasn't in the facility obviously where it's like okay we probably shouldn't joke about this and then like when he got back it was it was it was it was free for all yeah it's an all-time i mean it's just one of those things like like what can you do you know like at that time it's almost like i mean it's as invisible as covid in a sense you know like you don't know if somebody has mono and like you kiss somebody so what and then it just turns out like it's the second game of the year and you're out for four weeks because yeah because you made out did you see those same ghosts that he saw were they on the field no that's that was that was wrong by espn i agree that was wrong. It was very wrong.
It's one thing to have audio. I get it.
For all your content, that's fine. But in the middle of a game and something like that, and when you don't do that to everybody, you just pick one person and record that, that's wrong.
That's bad ball. I like that.
That's bad ball. That's bad ball by ESPN.
Because you go to the sidelines, you're talking to your coach,

you're being honest with your coach, with the understanding that, like,

hey, okay, we're contributing this content to ESPN.

They're not going to fuck us over and make us look like shit.

And they take one thing that I'm sure stuff like that gets said a lot

during games by different people.

A lot.

But now it's associated forever with Sam Darnold.

Yeah, and it's like, you know, when the offense isn't scoring,

I'm sure the defense is like, what's wrong with the offense?

You know, it goes on the offense.

And same thing when the offense isn't scoring, I'm sure the defense is like, what's wrong with the offense? It goes on the offense. And same thing when the offense is going and the defense can't stop anybody.
We say the same thing, but it's not because we don't like the defense or the players. It's just the heat of the battle.
It's football. You just shouldn't do that.
I like that, though, that you wouldn't joke about Sam Darnold when he was out of the facility. But when he came, you wouldn't say it behind his back.
You're like right to his face. You suck in your face at pig and parrot last night or what? Way to party kiss.
Yeah. All right.
Last question. So we had Jimmy Graham another another Miami legend on the show and it was the last week of the Bears season obviously Matt Nagy got fired last year.
Adam Gase gets fired. How awkward is it in a facility when it's like everyone in the world knows this is going to end? We're just pretending that it's all normal.
Well, that's the thing because nobody really pretends. Everybody knows.
And I don't know if that makes it worse or better. Because obviously, whatever,, you know, we finished two and 14 or whatever it was, but like everybody knew kind of midway through the year that that was, it was kind of done.
Right. Right.
And it's just like one of those things where like, you don't know, some of the coaches would joke about it and then others wouldn't talk about it. And then, you know, we won two games and everybody's partying like, you know, we jobs yeah but yeah it's it's it's a interesting uh it's an interesting dynamic yeah it's just it's one of those i'm always fascinated with like the human side of sports but it's a business right and everybody gets that right like that's where like i i always say like i wish it was just football and not a business but like you can't have those you know mutually you can't have those independently exist right there comes one with the other and so like i think everybody you know you're a grown man and you know you know you're the track record is like okay like this is going to happen so it's one of those things like same thing sam like you're out for the next three weeks but we're still gonna give you shit for it right like it's the same way like we know we're out we might as well have fun while we're here yes absolutely absolutely my last last question uh going back you mentioned that zach you know he likes to point downfield sometimes i think he points downfield a little bit too much like he's almost addicted to he gets out of the pocket and he always puts his finger out there he just points in a direction you know either something really awesome or really bad is about to happen but is he actually like instructing you to do certain things or is he sometimes just point to like get a little bit of swag going before he throws the ball no well obviously with that one in tennessee that was that was to cory davis go deep i'm launching it and touchdown sick play um and in the other words yeah when you kind of point when you're rolling out like you got everybody chasing you you get the linebackers about to come hit you like i i don't really know what other of that, but normally it's for a point.
It's not just headband swag, point throw. He does it a lot, though.
I've noticed he does it a lot. Billy, you're a big Jets fan.
Do you want to ask any questions? Any last questions? He loves you. Billy's in love with you.
What's going on? He was like, celebrities make me nervous. You're obviously an NFL player, big-time deal, all pro, but we've had Adam Sandler and stuff.
he's like he was like celebrities make me nervous like we've like you're you're obviously an nfl player big big time deal all pro but like we've had like adam sandler and stuff he's like he wasn't nervous for that or anything like that it's like braxton barrios you're i'd be nervous he's got you nervous yeah quick question so you've been with the patriots you've been with adam gaze in the last coaching staff do you feel that there's a huge difference in this coaching staff in this environment environment with the Jets? Even if you leave, there's still serious possibilities of promise going forward. Who's the coach you're referring to with the Jets? Coach Sal.
What was that? They give me shit for my pronunciation of his name. Because I can never do it.
It's funny because I noticed how you didn't bring him off. You said the Patriots coached that.
Then you saidase and then you just said you just try to wean off of it that's funny um no truly truly i i think they're they're heading in a very good direction uh i i love the coaching staff there they uh they're most of them they're young they know what they're doing communicate well and like sala is is a phenomenal coach and a great storyteller so if you love them so much why don't you announce your re-signing right now well it's that's you know it's two sides but you you could say it you'd be like i will i will do everything in my power i'll take a pay cut i'm looking at your agent's eyes right now i'll take a pay cut to be a new york jet we'll see if you love him so much i don't know listen if i loved a guy like that i'd be like hey i'll fucking take it yeah how good is he at storytelling phenomenal because if he's a great storyteller i would take less money yes to hear the stories just to stick around for the story great storyteller is worth like that's you can't put a price tag it's well no you could it's like i don't know three million uh 10 million three years yeah that's mean? Like he's a, he's a great storyteller, like ghost stories or no, like, like team meeting stories, but like a random and like, you have nowhere where you have no idea where they're going, but they always kind of like full circle. And actually some don't, it's just like a fun way to start the death.
Is there one that sticks out to you? Like, no, cause they're long. Like I couldn't remember one to save my life right now.
I got to hear a story, though. We got to get them on the show.

You have to. We got to get them on.

Have to.

Yeah.

All right.

Well, Braxton, thank you so much, man.

Congrats again, All-Pro.

Congrats on your future deal.

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Deal.

Okay.

So we get 1% of whatever you sign for, and we will help.

We will start tweeting out facts, stats.

Usually it's 10.

Wow.

Give them the hometown discount.

Big discount.

We're setting an example. Yeah.
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That's G-E-T-W--o-u-l-d getwood.com or at your local cvs okay uh let's do faqs okay hey dad cat pf shea pf shee and hanky panky hanky panky question. When you say certain numbers are not eligible to be selected in a lottery machine, why the hell is that? Thank you.
Because sometimes we're just too lazy to put them back in, and so there are numbers that have been drawn recently. And it's a long way for Big Cat to reach over and take the ball out and put it in the top.
Big news, though, today I went through the entire machine for a sportsbook promo that we had.

If you opted in and you bet the Steelers this weekend, you will get a refund.

On the parlay promo?

No.

It was just straight bets.

Oh, it was the ping pong ball promo.

Yeah, it was the ping pong ball.

But I went through the whole thing.

Every single number is still there, which I was shocked.

I thought for sure there was a couple numbers that just weren't there there they all are there it's incredible feet um yeah there it is good luck to everyone also i'm thinking about buying myself a little birthday gift i'm going to try to hunt down maybe a bigger more more expansive uh ping pong ball machine that's my game unnecessary yeah it does like upgrading your ping pong ball machine. Wasn't this one like five grand? It was $1,500.
Paid for itself. How much bigger? And it came broken, right? Yeah, it came broken from China.
That's why we're boycotting. That's why I'm boycotting the Olympics.
Have you ever thought about the fact that that probably has a microphone inside of it? Yeah. So they know that we're boycotting the Olympics good free to bet we lot we took our eye off the ball of tibet by the way everyone's talking about taiwan yeah no one's talking about tibet we had concerts for them and everything the beastie boys yeah free to bet bitch let me just live hank i'm gonna look okay i'm gonna see if i could just make the entire my entire like corner a game show i would love to see like what um what your your spending breakdown is if you have one of those apps that categorizes things yeah into like okay meals uh utilities um household items where does upgrading your ping pong ball lottery machine it's a must how do you categorize it's a need not a necessities yes uh the ending song last episode was that spliced with the weatherman yes we are out of take on me remixes um oh that was a planted question nice no it was a real question someone sent in i usually wouldn't answer it but this is you know shout out to sean flaherty nick roger those kids there's guys that have a lot of the great to take on New Year Mixes over the years.
Shout out. Shout out to them.
We have run out, you know. Can you? I've been recycling, though, but, you know.
For tonight's, can we push pee? No. Why not? Are you not pee? I'm not pee.
Is pushing pee over? Oh, yeah. The Cardinals tweeted pushing P, and then they got fucking trust.
Oh, they did? I found out about it on Friday. KFC did a one-minute man.
Yeah, I found out about it on Friday, and I was like, it's probably like 10 more hours. Because when I find out, it's it.
KFC did the video explaining it to the non-people that were in on it, and that's kind of when it's like, once everyone's in on it, no one's in on it.

Yeah, no, once I find out, it's over.

I never, yeah.

I was never.

I didn't even fully understand it.

This is not a plan to win.

This is an FAQ that goes on in my head constantly for some reason on the daily recently.

But can I fight Hank?

Yes.

I don't know why.

I just really want to fight him for whatever reason.

In my head, he has a very punchable voice.

Thanks, guys. A punchable voice.
A Philly fan? Probably. No, you know what? I'm going to say no.
I'm going to say I think you have to earn the right to fight Hank. Agreed.
For the right amount of money, yes. Get your clout up.
Yeah, how many followers does he have? I don't know. I just did a text message number.
Remember when Billy's life goal was to fight Jake Paul, and then he realized Jake Paul's actually kind of jacked and a really good fighter and then he just stopped talking about it? There was a certain moment in time that it could have been eclipsed. That time has gone.
Jake Paul would have murdered you. I think back in the Nate Robinson days, there was a chance.
But now you spent the last, what, how how many years like past year just only training hey look i can't talk you fought for my honor again so as i can say oh but it's just i've been blogging very funny who's the guest you would want to return to the show that maybe it didn't go so great the first time around i feel like there's a lot of zoom ones we've done over the last year or so that we had to do them on Zoom because of COVID, but if it was in person, it could have been a lot better. Yeah, I'd love to have Rex Ryan in studio.
In the first one, I thought it went well. Good question.
I'd have John Cena back in studio. If he was in a good mental headspace.
Yeah, only if we, a certain amount of time away from a big life event. We check into him like eight hours before the interview.
Yeah. Has anything bad happened in the last week? Let's see.
Let's see. Who would you think, Hank? That we've like, it didn't go great.
I thought the Tim the Tatman interview was very average to below average. And if that was in person, there wasn't a click that I was hoping for.
And I think it's there. I love Tim.
I know. That's what I'm saying.
I think if you guys did an interview in person, it would be a lot better. I've been watching a lot of Tim videos on YouTube recently.
He's a very funny guy. Very funny.
And the interview came across as more of a generic type interview. Yeah, like tell us about your life.
Tell us about video. Which is honestly something that we wanted to know about.
But I would love. Yeah, let's get Tim.
Put Tim on the bench with us. Yeah.
I would let him sit at the table. What do you think, Billy? Usain Bolt was good, but I feel like he was better.
I don't know. That was the one that first came to mind.
There's something that it's just like, eh, that was weird. Like, I don't think I ever want Dak back on.
Unless he was in person. MVP? If he was in person.
I would do. I think anyone in person.
I mean, Braxton Berris is a great example. That interview, if it was on Zoom, it wouldn't have hit the same.
I don't think it would have sucked. I would have Miley Cyrus back on.
Back on? Yeah. Some people said it didn't go that great the first time.
I think that she's a kind of misunderstood person. Lawrence Taylor.
I'd love to have her back on. I'd have Ryan Pace back on.
Maybe change my questioning. Like the interview? Uh, sup, G-O-T-Y,, bonk FT, Buffalo's son, and the crew.

When watching games with friends or family, they always ask me who I bet.

Everyone knows I like to gamble, and they like to know which side I'm on, which is reasonable.

But why every single time that I tell someone what team I bet on, do they ask how much money I put on it?

Are they hoping to unit chain me if it's too low?

Are they ready to virtue signal that I have a gambling problem if it's too high? I'm a poor college student, and my average unit is $5. No unit shaming.
No unit shaming. And I've just gotten so annoyed at the question that I just don't respond to it anymore.
What should I say when people ask how much I bet on a game? Okay, so I think they're not trying to unit shame you. I think it's if you're with...
Well, it's two different cases. One is if you're with other gamblers, they might be trying to unit shame you, which no one should do.
You bet within your means, you bet, you know, whatever you feel comfortable with. If it's with non gamblers, I think they're just, their curiosity of like, Ooh, how much we got risking here is what really the question is.
Like, how important is this? How invested along with you that's the question i also think that if you're watching if they're non-gamblers and they're watching with you you're out at a bar they want to know okay if you hit this bet how many free shots should we expect you to pay for for the table they're already they're already trying to tax your winnings yeah so if you say like i'm betting 50 bucks 50 bucks on it, you win 50 bucks, they're expecting, like, next bucket is on you. Yes, yes.
But I think it's a normal question. Gambler to gambler.
It's awkward, though. I agree.
It's super awkward. Yeah, no, no, no.
The only time I ever ask is if someone says, I have a lot on this game. And then I'll be like.
But also, I would never ask someone how much they have this on a game unless there's someone I know very well. Because then my question is more like, is this a big game or a small game for you? That's the question I'm asking.
Yeah, it's helpful to know sometimes if you're watching a game with somebody that you know has a shitload of money on it. Correct.
And you put a small amount of money on it. Like, for example, if we're watching a game on Sunday,

I know that Dave has $250,000 on the line.

I do not have $250,000.

I'm making maybe what I think might be a big bet for myself.

I know that I don't need to be pulling a Brandon Walker

and running my mouth about it.

Damn, Brandon got a stray.

I love Brandon. By the way, it doesn't.
us for chicago taping it tonight for the crown hank how do you feel about about being ditched at the altar by regs like reagan it's like reagan he doesn't even acknowledge his real name um no i'm standing in solidarity with my man i'm crossing out the. I'm not even saying it because I feel so strongly about him leaving Hank.

I don't give a shit, to be honest.

He can go eat a butt.

Nice.

That's my official stance.

Surely they won their most recent game that came out Tuesday night, right?

Surely.

There's no way they could have lost that.

All right, marry, fuck, kill, queso, salsa, guacamole. Okay.
For me, this is easy. I marry salsa.
I fuck queso. I'm the same.
And I kill guac. I'm the same.
I'm the same. And I like guac, but bad guac is really bad.
And there's an important distinction in it, which I think we agree on. Queso has the highest highest ceiling but in terms of like what you can go to home to every single night it's salsa also salsa

is more versatile than queso i think you can put on a variety of dishes yes um and if you're if

you're killing guac you can still eat avocado yeah but you just can't have guacamole sometimes

all right a couple more uh on the 24 hour live stream last year billy cooked some terrible

breakfast at 5 a.m and watching him try to cook was hysterical. When are we getting some sort of barstool cook off to revisit that hilarious disaster? We should do it again.
We will. Let's do it again.
Did Rusilo teach you how to make eggs? No, he didn't yet. But the way I make eggs, people have a problem with.
I kind of make them like pancakes when I scramble them because I put the milk in, and then they kind of have that texture like pancakes. You burn.
It's a light crisp. Yeah, you make them like pancakes.
It's a golden finish. We should do another cooking competition.
Yes. Just Billy verse no one.
Just Billy verse the comment section. That would be funny.
Billy verse the smoke detector. Yeah, yeah.
Speaking of competition, are you guys going to do the season-long competition with a punishment again next year? I'm down. I mean, it'd have to be a punishment, but yeah, sure.
We could bring back the suit one. You remember we did the suit punishment? Yeah.
What was that one for? I think it was a gambling thing. Yeah, it was me versus you.
speaking hank did you ever work out in your mugsy jeans after you lost the grand prix several times okay hmm i i didn't know because i didn't see any video really bad i was almost dead uh did you pt in the jeans i'll do it on video this week maybe next week it was a bet the week after it was a bet um but yeah we would probably do something next year i don't know i i think the best way to do it on video this week, maybe next week. It was a bet.
Maybe the week after. It was a bet.
But, yeah, we would probably do something next year. I don't know.
I think the best way to do it would be loser can't watch the Super Bowl. I mean, we have to do it for our job, though.
You can listen on the radio. No, because then by, like, week 16, you'll be like, I really just love listening to Kevin Harlan on Westwood 1.
I do. I mean, when the cat ran across the field.
That was pointless. Loser has to fly to the Super Bowl, but the other way around the earth long-wise.
Oh, my God. Where's the Super Bowl? Is it Vegas? Arizona.
I thought it was New Orleans. No, it's in Arizona.
So you've got to fly over Asia to get to Arizona. Oh, my God.
We'll figure it out. Greyhound bus.
All right, last one. What's up, Chad Cat, PFP, Honk, William, and Bubba Gump and Marshmallow? What is the most absurd piece of false information that Billy has tried to convince you was true? Good question.
The Tom Brady has 36 playoff wins. Once I clip back, how's the hunt for the blue checkmark going? I think they deleted the tweet.
I think, no, seriously. I swear because I wrote it down.
But you realize you told us, you told us, you explained exactly where you slipped up in your explanation. And then you were like, but I got to find who screwed me up.
Because you're like, what time was the game? So you essentially said, I saw someone tweet 35 and then I added one. No, no.
So what actually happened is 30, 36 wins. Then I saw a tweet and saw what time it was posted.
And I was like, was this before or after the game was over? Let's try to figure it out. But anyway, you researched 36 wins.
I just Googled 36 Tom Brady. And it said that the Packers had 36 playoff wins.
I think, but like I was looking, there's a a whole bunch of stuff. But someone had tweeted 36 wins.
I know exactly how it went down. You won't just admit it.
There were actually multiple sources that said it was 36 wins, but they all deleted their tweets. Yeah.
No, no, that's... Okay, never mind.
You looked... Trust me.
You saw someone say, this is Tom Brady's 35th playoff win, or Tom Brady has 35 playoff wins, and you thought it happened before the game, and then you added one. Right, at that moment when I was checking on it.
But originally, someone had posted 36 wins. Got it.
I think for me, Billy tried to convince me that Anthony Fauci and Mother Teresa were in cahoots together. And then the article that I found linked to a website that said that Mother Teresa was actually Anthony Fauci's mother.

That was her son.

And then Billy couldn't provide a source for it that didn't link to an article that was labeled under Satanism.

So we fact-checked that one in real time.

The craziest thing Billy has tried to convince me of, it was probably when we were doing the keto diet. And what was the thing that you gave me that was not keto? Almonds or something.
Yeah, and then you're like, wait, hold on, don't eat that. And then you came back and you're like, all right, you're good to eat that.
And it was just like, where did you go to find that? That was peak Billy. I loved that Billy.
That was. That was great Billy.
I know Billy. I'm still mad about the fact that elephants don't see humans the way we see dogs.
I'm never going to forget that. Because that made my day when Billy told us that as our fun fact of the day.
That warmed my heart. I felt like I was just scrolling through the timeline of the dodo on Twitter.
Yes. And then dogs, bro.

And then Billy took that away from me.

I do want to go back on keto, Billy.

Ben Mintz is currently in ketosis.

He is?

Yes.

Wow.

He's been having the keto flu.

Breaking news.

Have you been checking his piss?

Well, we're going to get to that, but I put him on straight keto.

He's not allowed to eat anything else.

He has a certain amount of meals, and he's probably going to be in ketosis by the time we test him. Okay, so you haven't checked his keto levels yet, but he's going through the keto flicks.
He's showing signs. Is it possible he just has COVID? His breath stinks.
He's been lethargic. Yeah.
His breath stinks. Are you smelling his breath? He has the metallic smell of ketosis.

So are you going in like checking his breath?

No, he's been checking it.

I did love, yeah, like when we first did ketosis,

that was a very funny moment in time when you were 18

and learning it as we went.

And it was like, you'd hand me something

and I'd start to be like, wait, hold on one second.

You'd run to your computer and then you'd run back. You're like, can eat that you know where he got that from right so much comes into picture once you start listening to just a little bit of Joe Rogan to get an insight into Billy's brain Joe Rogan had been on ketosis at the time and he was like you know what's a really good diet to help you out is just ketosis it was literally from he was he was just translating the Joe Rogan podcast into our ears.
I didn't actually listen to Joe Rogan until I started working on this podcast because then I didn't have a podcast to listen to once I started working on this podcast. So that actually made me listen to more Joe Rogan.
Who do you like better? If Joe Rogan called you up today and asked you to have your exact same role on the Joe Rogan experience, what do you do? I wouldn't do that at all. $10,000.
I would say take it. No, it was a lot of fun listening to this podcast in the car.
That's live your best life, though. That would be the best life.
No. Yes.
No. If you got to be a scientist on Joe Rogan's staff...
Like live in his compound in Austin, Texas. I'd make you take that job.
I'd be like, Bill, you have to take this job. It would be like Good Will Hunting.
If I see you here tomorrow. The best part of my day is when I come in and I don't see you.
I think for a second you're not going to be at your desk because you're going to be doing test tube studies for Joe Rog rogan in austin i billy your job would be like okay billy i need you to go out and i need you to bow hunt for me and all you're all you're responsible for is bringing meat to me tonight and then sitting in the background of a podcast and like injecting one fun fact in when you hear it that'd be like if they offered me the price Price is Right host. I'd be like, sorry guys.
It's the one thing I'm going to take. You would do that? Yeah.
And it's the greatest game show of all time. It'd be incredible.
You get to work like, what, like, Drew Carey probably works like 20 days a year? Well, it's like Pat Sajak. They tape a bunch.
On Wheel of Fortune. I think Wheel of Fortune's even easier because you tape like, I think you tape three days a month and then you just go back.
Yeah. And that's it.
It would be incredible. What about you, Jake? If you got offered a job.
Well, we know. Fucking sports business reporter, a part of my take.
That's your dream job. That's the end of the line for you.
The Toledo Mudhens could offer him play-by-play, and he'd be out the door. You get play-by-play for the Yankees.
I mean, you'd have to take that. If any of the four major sports offered you a play-by-play job, you'd have to take it, and I'd make you take it.
Same thing. Same deal with Billy.
I'd be like, you have to take it. See ya.
That's a fact. It would break my heart, but you've got to do it.
We'll see. What if they all unionized and went on strike and they asked you to be a scab play-by-play guy for the New York Yankees?

Do you cross the picket line?

It would depend.

Yeah, you would.

No, we'll see.

I don't know.

And Hank, if Ben Simmons started a podcast and asked you to produce,

I would make you go take it.

Fair enough.

Imagine that.

Just every day talking about what he didn't do on a basketball court. Like a resort company contacts me.
Yeah, that's true. I'd be like, no, sorry.
Yeah, we actually need a water slide tester. A beach chair warmer.
Actually, you probably have enough followers on Instagram where you could probably just be a resort influencer where you go on vacations, post pictures of you in the water, drink a frozen concoction, and that's your life. It's crossed my mind.
Yeah. It's crossed everyone's mind.
Just own a bar, maybe a bowling alley in the Bahamas where everyone loves to bowl. I'd own one of those like pedal boats that cruises by people on the beach and hands out pineapple drinks.
And cocaine. Yeah.
For the record, I'm not ever going to leave this show unless it's, if I got a job offer to be like a train conductor. That'd be pretty cool.
We'll see everyone on Friday. You get to wear the hat.
Are we not doing ping pong balls? Oh, yeah. 88.
I was on so many today, I forgot. 44.
Six. 22.
You know what? 22. 12.
12. 8, 8, 8.
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