NFL Week 17, Fastest 2 Minutes, Bengals Huge Win, Antonio Brown Quits & An Interview With The Guy That Picked AB Up From Met Life

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On today's Pardon My Take, week 17 of the NFL season.

Not the last week of the season, week 17, we've got some big games to discuss.

A lot of playoff picture has gotten clearer.

Some teams eliminated. Sorry, Jake, you were eliminated.
Sorry, PFT. You were eliminated.
That's all right. Great Sunday, though.
Great witching hour. Big games.
Awesome games. We're going to do fastest two minutes.
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Today is Monday, January 3rd, week 17. We start in Cincinnati where the chili-eating Bearcat fans look to lick their wounds as Bengals.
It was Jamario Cart Chase who got a triple mushroom scoring three times on Sunday. Pharrell Williams wore a big hat for the Chiefs offense scoring twice.
And in my estimation, the Chiefs are still the team to beat. That's Cat Boom.
Clap along if you feel like the Chiefs now have C2. Cup of Joe Burrow is on his way to making Starbucks on his next contract and there's a new Joe Kuhl in the NFL and he resides in Cincinnati.
The Bengals 34, the Chiefs 31 and let us be the first to wish the Cincinnati Bengals congratulations on the AFC North crowd. From Cincinnati over to Nashville, where Deontay George Forming grilled the Dolphins' defense and landed the knockout blow on their season.
Tua turned the ball over. Looked like he was smoking PCP on this raining day.
I didn't know he liked to get wet. Ha, come on, Jake.
They're going to pull your blood, Jake. You've been smoking PCP.
Boat. Ill.
And a touching tribute to his namesake university, Duke Johnson and the Dolphins' drives. Looked like they were drunk.
Titans now have the one seed. Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? From the Titans? Huh? Titans 34.
The Dolphins 3. Up to the Meadowlands and we kick it over to the singing duo, Bruce Arians and Antonio Brown.
I really can't stay. A.B., it's cold outside.
I gotta go away. A.B., it's cold outside.
Just throw me the ball. But you're not open at all.
I must be leaving soon. A.B., get in your balloon.
A.B., it's cold outside. The Bucs 28, the Jets 24.
We were in great tune there. Nailed it, boom.
In Indianapolis, where Hunter S. Thompson Renfro brought the fear and loathing from Las Vegas.
It looked like the Colts were going to stay hot as P-A-R-T-Y Hilton hauled in an absolute dime from Carson Wentz. But Derek, baby, you can drive my car, had other plans as he took the Raiders down the field to set up the game-winning field goal.
From Dan, baby, you can also drive my Carlson. The Raiders get a huge win.

23 on 20.

In Baltimore, where Odell Beckham stuck his fist into the ball pit of Chuck E. Cheese Clark

as the defensive back had two interceptions and a touchdown.

In a matchup of Sean John, only one coach had the clutch gene.

And the Rams snatch a victory out of the jaws of defeat

as Tyler Bluntley rolled up a big fat L.

Rams 20, Ravens 29.

Sticking in the DMV where Boston's Scott Hanson was the superior red zone option,

football team fans are saying,

Do you really want to jail and hurts me?

Do you really want to make me cry?

As the Eagles officially eliminated the Washington football team. Taylor Moon Heineke was looking very animated as he and Terry Troy McLaurin, who you might remember from such films as that sick catch in week one against the Chargers and not being one of the guys that got into the fight on the sideline last week, tried their best in a losing effort.
Eagles, 20. Washington football team, 16.
In Dallas, where Antoine Wesley Snipes felt at home with no state income tax, hitting pay dirt twice, the Cowboys offense continues to be rocky, but believers will wait to see how Kodak Prescott and his receivers develop. Chris Banjo turned Dallas into a bunch of soggy bottom boys as Mike McCarthy remains the man of constant sorrow.

Don't jump off that Cliff Kingsbury just yet, Cardinals fans.

Arizona is back.

25-22.

Whoop! Whoop!

Out in Seattle for Russell Wilson's last home game as a Seahawk.

And D.K. Metcalf came one short of his personal record, scoring three times in an hour.
Ahmad Rashad Penny had the inside stuffed, running it between the tackles for 170 yards. All right, we're amen.
Amen. I want amen with you.
As St. Brown led the Detroit Zions with two scores, reminding Lions fans everything's going to be all right.
Seahawks 51, the Lions 49. In Southern California, Stone Cold Steve Austin Eckler and Andre the Giant Roberts formed a tag team to stun and suplex the Broncos.
To end the first half, Scranton McManus had the office buzzing when he hit a 61 yard field goal. Meanwhile,

Mike Williams took a tour

de Los Angeles and peddled

into the end zone in the

fourth quarter. But Noah Font

scored a touchdown for the fourth

Times New Roman this season

and thought to himself, what the hell,

Vitica? We still lost by 21

points? Huh? Chargers 34.cos, 13. Great job, Jake.
I didn't know you liked to get wet. Pike Williams is a classic.
Standing on a corner, Jameis Winston down in Nola. Such a fine sight to see.
Blake it easy. Blake it easy.
Why the fuck you starting taste so Sean Payton's crazy. Saints go marching 1810.
That was by far worse. Okay, week 17 in the books.
What a week it was. We're watching right now Sean Mannion and the Minnesota Vikings sadly end their season in Lambeau.
Just kind of quietly sitting down in the cold and just letting the Green Bay Packers wash over them. Yeah, it's a very sad ending to a great week 17 for the Vikings because Sean Mannion, he's a guy that I recognize his name.
When I said, who's starting for the Vikings tonight? You're like, Sean Mannion. I was like, oh, that's nice.
Yeah, because he was on the Rams for a while, right? Yeah, right. He was backing up Blake.
And Oregon State, correct? I remember most of these guys. He's not a Virginia guy, is he? No, I remember most of these guys from college football.
Yeah, because they were studs in college football. And then I'm like, oh, I liked betting on him in college football.
He can't be that bad. Oh, yeah, he is.
So the Packers have the one seed. This is now pretty much official.
I think they have all the tiebreakers. I think the line next week against the Lions is going to be like a pick-em

because the Packers will sit everyone,

and now they'll have two weeks off before they have to actually start playing playoffs.

And that will be the end of the week 17 until we obviously have Big Ben tomorrow night

in the most emotional game of all time.

One last thing about this game, though.

This game would have kicked ass if Kyle Sloater played.

Yeah, I agree.

Universally, we can all say that Kyle Sloater would have been a much better representation of who the Minnesota Vikings could be. Actually, you know what I was really, really hoping for? And this could have happened.
There's like an outside chance in my wildest fantasy that this is how on Earth 2, as they would say. Yes.
On Earth 2, Kyle Slaughter starts this game. He wins.
He starts next week. He wins that game.
And then guess what? They have to make a decision. Who's going to start the playoff game? Is it going to be Kirk Cousins or is it going to be Kyle Slaughter? Who's on a two-game hot streak.
Right, the hot hands. Throwing eight touchdowns over the course of seven days.
I think you've got to go with Kyle Slaughter at that point. It will be interesting because Kyle Slaughter is not going to be the quarterback of the future for theings but it does feel um we had a couple games today where it felt like errors were kind of over

it feels like this is the end of mike zimmer like it's it's they're probably gonna move on he's a

good coach actually a very good coach but sometimes it's just like all right we got to do something

different and it might i don't know how they'll navigate it but might be the end of kirk cousins

in minnesota too because it feels i you know not to get into the entire covid protocol and stuff

Thank you. And it might, I don't know how they'll navigate it, but might be the end of Kirk Cousins in Minnesota too.
Because it feels, you know, not to get into the entire COVID protocol and stuff, but like to miss this game when your season's on the line, that sucks. Yeah.
That sucks. I mean, I think there are a lot of things.
It seemed like Zimmer and Cousins were kind of always going to be, they had like a shotgun wedding where at points it seemed like Zimmer really really really did not want kurt cousins at least at that price tag it might have just been mike zimmer hating every quarterback and just being a defensive guy and not really care he he definitely did not like kurt cousins anymore because of the price tag that came along correct but it was it always seemed like a thing with zimmer where it was like yeah i guess i'll try to win with kurt cousins iousins. I guess he's my guy.
But he seemed like his guy, but he never seemed like his boy. Kirk Cousins is one of those guys that everyone knows this person in their office or their school or whatever.
They don't do anything specifically that makes you hate them. Just their existence bothers you.
I think that if you were in a facility with Kirk Cousins for multiple years, he never says anything bad. He's a nice guy.
You can't actually say, oh, Kirk Cousins, oh, he fucked my wife. Or, oh, Kirk Cousins, you hear what he's bashing everyone behind their backs.
Or he's a fucking asshole. No, he's a nice guy.
If you just look at him long enough, you're like, I don't like you, dude. He doesn't have any vices.
That's the problem. That's the problem.
You can always stop. I always like a guy that's just riddled with faults.
Well, he does have a vice. The way that he grills meat.
Yeah, exactly. But no, his vice.
Grilling meat in the worst way possible. His vice is just, that's a lack of not being a vice is putting the foil down underneath.
That's almost, I wouldn't consider that a vice. I think that's him trying too hard not to have a vice.
He also does wear socks and sandals, so that could be considered a vice because that's just like, I'm going to go out like this. He's the least accurate quarterback in NFL history on his gender reveals for his babies.
That's true. That is true.
So, yeah, Kirk Cousins probably over in Minnesota. All right, before we get to the rest of Week 17, I am mad at you guys because we're now three days into the new year.
How's your diet going? It's starting today as you're listening to this. But I'm mad because none of you have wished me a happy Danuary.
Oh, okay. So Dan Dockich has created Danuary.
It's January for Dan's. Okay, What do you do? We're going to read.
Yell about anticipation trophies? Yeah, we're going to read, and we're going to be our best Dans. Okay.
So watch out. It's Danuary.
But what's the difference between Danuary and just New Year's resolutions? I don't really know. I just know that we have a month named after us, and I'm in.
Okay. I haven't really actually followed up.
Yeah, every time he tweets about it, I'm just like just like i'm in i don't even read the tweet i'm in weight loss okay no alcohol except for wild card weekend nice that's kind of what divisional round he's probably going to the he's probably he probably was expecting to go to the colts game okay read five books nope that's too many books you read children's books right january hickey You can't read five books. Nope.
That's too many books. That's great.
You read children's books, right? But January, Hickey, we can't read five books.

Okay.

I'll read one.

Do something good for someone every day.

All right.

January.

And then he added today, get healthy all month.

Wait, we're adding stuff?

He added today 11 hours ago.

Jesus Christ.

Walk your dog, skip dessert, get off your ASS, do something nice for someone else.

All right.

You know what?

I'm out on January.

Never mind.

You guys did the right thing by not wishing me happy January.

Danny, we're going to be talking about the story. Walk your dog, skip dessert, get off your ASS, do something nice for someone else.
All right, you know what? I'm out on Danuary. Never mind.
You guys did the right thing by not wishing me happy Danuary. Danuary is one of those things where it sounds good because it kind of rhymes.
It rhymes. That's the coolest part.
It's like tales never fails. Yeah, right.
That's the only reason why I would ever go along with something like that. And it's just a month for dance.
There's a tanning salon in my college town that would celebrate Tanuary. Okay.
That actually sounds... You guys want to do Tanuary? I'm probably out on tanning.
Get some of that vitamin D. It's just one of those things that if you tan, there's just a lot of questions about like what...
So how did you... Where'd you go? It's like, oh, I didn't go anywhere.
It's Tanuary. Yeah.
Simple answer. You just stole Tanuary from me.
No, I'm saying... Although I did rescind Tanuary.
You rescinded it, so I said we can open it up to something different. Yeah.
All right. Let's talk some football because we had some great football.
We're going to start, even though the lead story is Antonio Brown, which will be the second game, and we have the guy who picked him up, Hustle Hard, Danny Boy Hustle Hard. Danny Boy Hustle Hard.
Danny Boy Hustlehard. You know him.
Who picked up Antonio Brown after he left MetLife Stadium.

We have a phone call with him to get the scoop.

No other podcast will do this.

I can guarantee that.

That will be story two. Story one has to be the Cincinnati Bengals, 34.

The Kansas City Chiefs, 31.

The Bengals are your AFC North champions.

Joe Burrow was incredible. Jamar Chase was incredible they win the division at home against what was the one seed in the Chiefs and the team that everyone said oh here come the Chiefs no one's going to beat them an incredible game probably the best game that the Bengals have had as a franchise in I don't know five ten years and I'm just happy for Bengals fans because to replay how the season has gone, we had a whole rant in the middle of the season when they beat the Ravens 41-13 or whatever the score was, or 41-17.
They were the one seed at that given time. We said, Bengals fans, soak it in, enjoy it, and then they fell off a cliff, and now they're back.
Soak it in, enjoy it. Your team is for real.
Joe Burrow is a fucking stud. That game was awesome.
Yeah, Joe Burrow, I think last week I said he was elitish. I think he's elite.
I think so too. I think Joe Burrow, I think I'm ready to officially declare it right now.
Can you name five quarterbacks in the NFL that you would take this week over Joee burrow i would take joe burrow over justin herbert and i know people like what i would too i would take him over lamar jackson i would too wait let's here's how we do it let's rank the afc north quarterbacks number one joe burrow yeah joe burrow joe you say justin herbert for afc north no af Burrow, number one. Number two, Tyler Huntley.
Yes, number two, Tyler Huntley. Number three, Josh Johnson.
Yep. Number four, Baker.
Baker. Five, Case.
Six, Lamar. Wait, what about Ben? Best abilities availability.
Lamar's not been playing. Actually, okay, this week and this week only, I might put Ben ahead of Joe Burrow.
It's his week. It's his week.
It's his swan song. We should pay deference to Big Ben.
But no, Joe Burrow, he's an elite quarterback right now. It was incredible.
Maybe just maybe the people that were saying, don't draft Jamar Chase. Oh, yeah.
Because you should take an offensive lineman. Maybe you should just take a player that's fucking awesome.
Who's a game changer. Who you can, like, there are, I don't know, a handful of guys on offense in the NFL that wreck games.
And Jamar Chase did, he had a little of a rookie wall that he hit there that he wasn't, he didn't have a lot of great games. But today was an enormous game at home and he fucking delivered.
And he was making crazy, even like, the touchdown catches are crazy but like even that um he had like a nine yard uh catch after the run it was a totally it was a play in maybe the second quarter 21-7 like didn't really mean anything but it shows you the type of player he is that like he will always get those extra yards and he's so hard to bring down he's so fastifty. He's awesome.
There was one catch that he had where I was like, okay, now I really like this guy. It was like a 40-yard catch, maybe a 35-yard catch, and after he brought it in, he did the thing where he just kind of held his arm out and palmed the ball to keep it away from the defender and kept moving downfield.
It looked like somebody's uncle playing against their nephew in pool basketball where they're just holding the ball away and being like, come on. Yeah, all you guys tried to swarm me.
You're still not getting the ball. He wrecks shit.
He does. He wrecks shit.
That's what he does. He wrecks shit.
He loves to wreck shit. And it's.
He has NOS. He actually has NOS in his body.
Yes. On the touchdown that he had where he ran in between five defenders.
There's no other way to. That was fast and furious.
Yeah. And he's like the Bengals are not a complete team.
I think they're still probably like an offseason away from being like true contenders, but they have everything in place right now. Like to know that you have Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase, and I mean we said it last week, T.E.
Higgins is under 23 as well. It's crazy how good they could be for a long period of time now and the feeling of we have our guy and he's so good and it's like I mean Joe Burrow it's hard to fully explain why he is like elite and why I would take him over those other guys but if you just watch him for a game especially a game like today where he was on and the amount amount of sacks he gets out of, the ability to shift around the pocket and make big-time throws.
And they also, like the Bengals, the way they run their offense, they don't really do him a ton of favors. They'll run so many empty sets where he just, you know that he has to do it himself.
He got his nameplate ripped off. He's such a fucking warrior.
I just love watching him play. I know this is sounding like borderline creepy how I'm gushing over him, but if you're a Bengals fan, you understand everything we're saying because it's that much fun to watch him play.
And we do need to start the motion of Joe Burrow being elite and having people respect that take. Bengals fans, make sure that people in the media, when you tell them Joe Burrow is elite and they throw some weird stat at you to tell you why he's not and then ask you, well, what do you think about his completion percentage on third down or whatever the fuck they're going to say, just reply by saying he just is.
No, he just is elite. No, if people disagree that he's elite, you can drop the old, tell me you don't watch football without telling me you don't watch football.
Yeah. Because it's the eye test.
Yeah, he just is. It's the eye test.
He just is. Just like Kirk Cousins is the eye test? Uh-huh.
Like, you can look at his numbers and be like, oh, my God, he's incredible. The eye test does not lie when you're judging these type of quarterbacks.
And Joe Burrow passes that. Also, God, he plays a very significant part in football.
We need to come to terms with that. Things don't just happen all the time.
Is there any other quarterback that would have gotten his nameplate ripped off his back and then gone on to beat the best team in the NFL? No, that only happens to quarterbacks who are going to end up being great. Now, all the gushing that we just did, is he hurt? No, he did get his foot stepped on.
And bad like at the end I don't really understand I liked their aggressiveness it was a very weird ending because the Chiefs should have let the Bengals score but then they didn't let him score and they got stuck in a position where it's like well now we have to try to stop them and they're going forward on fourth down when a field goal obviously could win the game in regulation if Patrick Mahomes doesn't go down the field. It was a clunky end to an unbelievable game.
Yeah, it was a Mexican standoff between Andy Reid, Zach Taylor, and then a clock. And also the Chiefs' inability to have one play without a defensive penalty.
That was tough at the end. They got that drive extended like three times on these penalties.
And then it was a great incomplete pass on the spike they brought in. It was Brandon Allen that came in, right? Yes.
And so everybody was like, wait. At first, I thought that he just got brought in because he was their specialist on spiking the ball because he's so inaccurate.
Then, yeah, this guy's going to hit the ground for sure. But then people were like, wait, Joe Burrow actually limped off the field.
I saw the replay. He got stepped on as he was falling down.
Oh, wait, Jake's on. By the way, we're in our other studio because our other studio, our real studio is broken still.
So we'll be back there on Wednesday. But that's why if you're watching this on YouTube, you're like, where the fuck are these guys? We're in the radio studio.
Jake. He appears to be fine.
Okay. They're downplaying it.
that one that it's never good when you have a game that's again probably the best game home game the bengals have had in 10 years because they haven't won any playoff games and joe burrow like goes off limping at the end where everyone has to hold their back i saw him doing the get the gat in the locker room afterwards i think he's fine he's good he's good to go uh i have a quick stat for you on Joe Burrow's greatness, and we'll talk about the Chiefs real quick. Joe Burrow, the second quarterback all time to go 450 yards, four touchdowns, back-to-back weeks.
The other quarterback? No, not Tua. Come on.
You were doing that the last few weeks. I am into it on.
Patrick Mahomes. Jameis Winston.
Okay. So that is rarefied air.
Legends of Superdome, both of them. Yes, Joe Burrow, one of one.
All right, so the Chiefs. They lose the one seed, most likely.
The Titans now just have to beat the Texans week 18 to seal the one seed. Because remember, the Titans kicked the shit out of the Chiefs before the Chiefs went on their big, long winning streak.
There's two ways to look at this. One, the optimistic way.
Choose your own adventure, Chiefs fans. Oh, well, we needed one of these games before the playoffs.
We can get things right. This is okay.
AFC is still our territory. Two, this is the defense.
This is the real Chiefs defense, and it's not them playing Jordan Love or Daniel Jones. They had some good games against some good quarterbacks, but this is the real Chiefs defense, and oh yeah, it's a big liability still, because when you get in a shootout, it's not, Patrick Mahomes is incredible, but when you get in a shootout, it becomes so much more of a coin flip game.
So their defense was – it left a little bit to be desired today, especially with Sorensen. Sorensen – And Fenton had like every penalty.
Sorensen was the guy that was highlighted as being the biggest liability, maybe of any starting defensive back in the NFL for like the first six games. And then he started playing really, really well.
This was back to him being like, okay, that's the old Sorensen that we all remember. I don't think that he's either one of those two guys.
I feel like he's probably somewhere in the middle, and I don't think that the Chiefs are going to run into offenses that are quite as good as the Bengals. Well, it could be the Bengals again.
It could be the Bengals again, in which case they might be in for – that's going to be an issue. But you know what I mean? When you get in a game like this, and it was a crazy back-and-forth game, it felt like the Chiefs were going to cruise in the first half, but the Bengals, Joe Burrow, Moxie, everything, they just don't give up.
But when you get into a shootout like this, it feels like it's almost up to chance, like who has the ball last kind of situation. Because I think if the Bengals, if the Chiefs had let the Bengals score a touchdown there with like a minute and 40 left, I think that game goes to overtime where the Chiefs get a two-point conversion.
Too much time on the clock for Patrick Jones. Right, you know what I mean? The way that it worked out at the end was it was such a comedy of errors that I don't think either coach had a full grasp of how the end of that game was going to shake out.

They just kind of had to roll with the punches in the way that things were called at the end.

Right.

And so, yeah, if they had scored earlier, if they had done the thing that, by the way, that Utah should have done to Ohio State and let the guys score,

if they just let them score, then, yeah, I would take Patrick Mahomes with the ball in his hand to go down and try to tie the game.

Oh, one last thing about the Bengals, though.

They've got a kicker. Yeah.
That's the thing. Evan McPh thing.
Evan McPherson, I think, is like a legit star kicker. I think he's going to be one of the best guys in the league for a pretty long time.
That dude is pretty clutch. Yeah, so Bengals fans, enjoy it.
This is a hell of a Monday for you. You clinch the AFC North.
You have a team that, like I said, I don't know.

The Bengals' defense at times leaves a little bit to desired,

and they have had times where their offense is not.

The Bengals still lost to the Bears this season,

which seems crazy to just say, and they lost to the Jets.

So they've had a couple games where it hasn't looked great,

but I also think they have that ceiling now that you can,

if you're a Bengals fan, you're going into every single playoff game being like, we have a chance. We absolutely have a chance.
The Bengals uniforms look so cool when their team is good. They look so awful when the team is bad.
Or maybe they don't look awful. I'm going to correct myself on that.
I think when the Bengals are bad, I see them in those uniforms. I just get sad because I think of how cool they would be if it was an awesome team.
They have top five helmet in the NFL. Yeah, and they were wearing the black pants today, the orange tops today, which somehow I think their jerseys got oranger.
I think that's the change that they made in the offseason. They said, we're going to make it slightly more orange, and then when you have the black pants with that and then that helmet, it doesn't get much better.
No. Especially when the team's good offensively.
Fuck yeah. Yes.
Feed it to me. All right.
Next game. This one was probably the biggest drama show.
Big drama show, to quote Triple G. The Bucs 28, the Jets 24.
Antonio Brown. So last week he said He's not about the drama

And then we

Defended him because he's clearly a media

Creation against him all these list of

Things that he's done the transgressions

This week he decided

After not getting the ball enough

That he was going to rip off

His jersey his shirt and

Leave MetLife

Stadium in the middle of the third quarter

In the middle of a play. Like, the play clock was going on behind him.
And it was, I've never seen anything like it. It's incredible.
He got cut right after. Bruce Arians, I kind of wanted Bruce Arians to just get in front of the media and being like, Antonio Brown's still on the team.
He helps us win. It would have been a hilarious move, but holy shit, what a show.
First of all, how pissed do you think Julian Edelman is that he didn't figure out, hey, maybe I should retire during a game and take my shirt off and then just have pictures of me spread like a wildfire across the internet. Secondly, he's going gremlin mode now, Big Cat.
I feel like we should go gremlin mode on the media. I don't know what gremlin mode is.
Don't feed you. Yeah.
Don't get you wet. Just gremlin mode.
We're going gremlin mode on the media. Listen, between January and gremlin mode, you better watch out.
It would have been very funny if that was a design play. A bunch of high school teams always run that play in basketball where one guy gets on hands and knees and is barking like a dog.
Antonio Brown retiring during a play was actually a decoy. That would have been a sick play.
It was so crazy. We were watching it in the gambling cave.
We didn't have the sound on to that game because why would we? But we thought it was pregame. It was like a pregame video they were rolling of Antonio Brown dancing in dancing in the end zone and then we realized wait the play clock is behind him and it's running this just happened it's fucking crazy it the whole thing also shout out um all the doctors on twitter who have successfully diagnosed antonio brown with cte something that we still the the best doctors and scientists in the world can't do in a living human but they've able to do it over Twitter so they know but yet they've watched him on Instagram live so like that's how is that well it's like way worse to just to be like I think Antonio Brown has CTE than just saying I think Antonio Brown might be an asshole yeah well that's that's that's a normal thing to say I think Antonio Brown might be an asshole.
Yeah. That's a normal thing to say.
I think Antonio Brown might be an asshole. Studies out.
You can also say Antonio Brown doesn't seem well. No.
He doesn't seem like he's in a good headspace. I don't know if that's just his personality or if there's something else going on.
But to make the jump to CTE, that's something that probably you shouldn't do because I've actually seen the effect that it has on players and just people that I've been around that have had head injuries and have played contact sports. They think now that everything that they do wrong, they forget one thing.
They're like, oh my God, that's CTE because people are diagnosing it just like off the top of their heads at people. So I don't know.
He might have, he seems like a guy that probably has some personality issues, maybe bipolar. I don't want to...
No, don't diagnose anything. That's the thing.
I don't want to diagnose anything. Yeah, we're not doctors, and people on Twitter aren't doctors, and people being like, oh, he's clearly showing signs of CTE.
Shut the fuck up. You watched Will Smith with an accent, and you now can diagnose CTE over Twitter? Tell the truth.
Tell the truth. It's crazy.
This is an aside thing because clearly we've known this for a while that he's an eccentric at best and maybe something wrong at worst, but I'm not going to fucking diagnose someone over Twitter who I watch play football because I'm not a fucking doctor. So bring it back to Gremlin mode real quick.
Yeah. At the media, allow me to go Gremlin mode on them.
Antonio Brown quit on his team. Quit your words, not mine.
Seems like he helped his team win because they were getting the shit kicked out of him by the Jets, which typically happens to good teams, by the way. The Jets just fucking smoke good teams.
I don't know what it is about. They just get up.
What the Jets do is every three or four weeks they're like you know what this week we're gonna play well yeah so so basically antonio brown bike by walking out on his team helping them win he's like batman when he flies away with a big nuclear bomb and saves gotham well do you think it also might have been did antonio brown call the fourth and two and a half yards qb sneak which robertala, Billy, I mean, that was the longest QB sneak I've ever seen. I actually like him going for it, but did he think that it was inches? The plays designed that there was a sweep with Braxton Berrios, who had an amazing game.
So they wanted to give Berrios the sweep, but the way that plays designed, there's an option for the quarterback to sneak it, and usually they run it closer to the goal line. But no one communicated to Zach that we're definitely giving the sweep, and that's why you have to give it to Braxton Berrios, who was balling out and needs to be re-signed.
So Zach Wilson saw the defensive front. That would tell him to go take the sneak.
Two yards. No one told him that he was supposed to get the swing.
It was a baffling move because it was so far. It wasn't like the fourth and inches is fourth and inches, but this was fourth and two and maybe even two and a half.
But the Jets played scrappy, and Zach Wilson played well. He did.
He played well. They didn't score in the last four drives, but he played well.
I'm going to defend the'm gonna defend the jets here i'm gonna defend the echoes because he's catching some shit because he asked tom brady to sign a game ball for him afterwards yeah on the field i get why people might be upset about that i think you should be allowed to do that as long as he's not a quarterback in the division he's no longer on the patriots you're never gonna see him again see him again. He's on the Bucs.
Not really a rival to you anymore.

Jets Super Bowl.

When are you going to get the chance to do this again?

Jets Bucs Super Bowl next year?

Jets Bucs Super Bowl.

Possibly.

Yeah, but you probably wouldn't want to do it then.

Yeah, this is the last time you'll be able to get him to sign a ball without confetti

falling down around you because you just beat him.

It's also, if you have a chance to play against Tom Brady, you're going to probably tell your

kids forever that you played against Tom Brady.

That's a normal human thing.

That was the pick he caught off him.

Oh. So that's why he was getting the sign of the ball.

Yeah, that's awesome. I intercepted

this off you, Tom. Will you sign it?

You know what? Now it's completely

flipped. Now it's like, wow, Tom Brady is

a real cuck for signing the ball that he threw as

an interception. Yes.

We also have one other thing with Antonio Brown. So the Jets played hard.
I mean, I actually thought Zach Wilson looked okay. He's electric.
Yeah. It was electric all around.
Electric until the – I mean, he didn't score. I'm viewing it from Hank live bet the Bucs, and I did it with him, and he just kept on repeating, it's Zach Wilson, it's Zach Wilson, it's Zach Wilson.

And like those last four drives, they just had to keep punting.

But he was good.

If you watch that game, you feel encouraged by Zach Wilson.

Absolutely.

Right?

The future.

Yeah.

Antonio Brown, the incentives, this is a wrinkle that I don't know if you saw going around.

Yes.

So he left almost a million dollars on the table, potentially. Eight catches for $333,333.
He was eight catches away? Yes. Okay.
Eight catches, 55 receiving yards, one receiving touchdown. $333,333 each.
So that might have been why he was so mad. But he still had another game to get it.
He had a game and a half. Yeah, but he was mad.
He wanted the ball. I actually heard that somebody wanted to get him the ball more, the plan was to get him the ball more but he still flipped out about so there's no way to like look into the mind of antonio brown and figure out why he flipped out yeah and personally i've been afflicted because i had an insane uh touchdown prop parlay and everything hit except antonio brown because he left the game also he missed games because of his covid cards right it's kind of not really all the coaches fault.
Do you think the fake vaccine is actually bad for your mental state? The fake card? Yeah. Faking getting it is actually bad.
No, I actually think that... Didn't he just get vaccinated? Oh, he did.
Antonio Brown wasn't flipping out like this until he got the shot, right? He got Billy going down the rabbit hole. I love it love it yeah he's he actually said he's big mad he said yeah i'm big mad making a difference that's what the m the a and the d oh nice so he's gremlin mode and he's making a difference it was crazy we'll never see anything like it was great he rage quit i've never seen a player like vante davis quit but he quit at halftime and he he just retired he was like you know you know what? Game's not for me anymore.
It's not worth it. I'm out.
And Tony Ray, it could have been something as slight as a coach being like, hey, I want you to line up in the slot as opposed to as an X receiver on this next play. And he'd be like, that's it.
Take my gloves. Take my shirt.
I'm out. Take my shoulder pads.
I'm out. I'm going to say something that's going to sound crazy, but I still think there's like a 5% chance he might go back to the box.
Because Tom Brady would be like, Bruce, he is the only way we're going to win another Super Bowl, and I'm so addicted to winning that I don't care. I actually like what Tom Brady did after the game.
What did he say? He played it pretty low key, but he was saying, they were asking him, how did you find out that Antonio Brown left? Has there been any communication with him, that sort of thing? And he just goes, and this is why I brought up the mental thing earlier. He just said, we're all trying to get Antonio the help that he needs.
And Hank could probably pull it up or tell me because I'm sure that you're much more into what Tom Brady has been saying word for word than I am. But he basically said, we need to support Tom Brady, or we need to support Antonio Brown.
We need to make sure that he's doing well, and everybody out there, just be nice to him and try to help him out if you can. Okay, so we'll be nice.
And don't say that he has CTE if you haven't gone to medical school for like 15 years. I will say one last thing, Gremlin Mode, because I just thought of this analogy.
You remember and remember the Titans? Ryan Gosling takes himself out. His team wins wins everybody's like wow ryan gosling great player great teammate antonio brown takes himself out his team wins yep and we're all throwing we're throwing sticks and stones at him yep that's true all right so before uh i had one last thing before we get to we have the guy who picked up antonio brown after the game uh danny boy hustle hard great name.
I just wanted to give a shout out. I still believe that Mike Tomlin doesn't get enough credit for keeping that locker room together with Big Ben, Antonio Brown, and Le'Veon Bell for nine years.
So I just want to shout out Mike Tomlin because I was hard on Mike Tomlin at times, but he should get coach of the year retroactively for that entire stretch. And also, Big Ben should get injuries added to his career from when he had to deal with those guys.
Yes. Just headaches.
Well, no. Big Ben is hard to deal with, too.
No, I know. I'm just saying, but I'd also like it to go the other way for Big Ben, for him dealing with Antonio Brown, to also have migraines added to his list of ailments that he's had.
Yeah. I mean, Mike Tomlin deserves credit for dealing with big Ben, who is a dog that, that pretends that he's hurt every other day and you have to take it to the vet.
Okay. So let's talk to Danny boy hustle hard who picked up Antonio Brown.
This is a part of my take exclusive. Find you another podcast that will get this type of interview right after a big NFL incident.
Okay, we now have a very special guest on. It is Danny Boy Hustle Hard.
He is famous as of now on this show. People know him.
Because he hustles hard. He hustles hard.
But he is the guy who picked up Antonio Brown from MetLife Stadium after Antonio Brown left in the middle of the game, ripped off his jersey, walked out, left. So, Danny Boy, we're not going to ask you to tell us everything that Antonio Brown was saying, but can you at least explain to us how this all went down? Like, you get the call.
Just take us from there like you get the call me and me and

me and a beer close a lot of people don't know that because i just don't you know he doesn't really come to town that much but uh i um i got the call from somebody close to him which is uh one of my close friends jared who has a huge memorabilia um does like a lot of memorabilia He manages a couple of guys, but he's very close with A.B.

He's close with Odell.

He's close with Odell. He's actually the behind the scenes guy.
He's like the glue that nobody knows. He has no social media or nothing.
Right. So you get the call from him.
Yeah, and what does he say? So basically I call Jared because I'm a fucking gambler. I'm gambling on this fucking game.
And I got the book. So I'm looking at the score.
I'm like, what? Bro, what the fuck's going on? So then I see AB do that, and I called Jared. And I said, Jared, did you just fucking see what AB just did? And he's like, no, what happened? Because Jared lives in Pennsylvania by Philly.
So I guess he was I guess he was tapped into like the Eagles game or whatever.

But basically, he didn't know.

He saw it.

He starts fucking freaking out, flipping out like a maniac.

He's like, oh, my God, oh, my God, I'll call you right back, I'll call you right back.

And calls me back.

He's like, Danny, I need you to go straight to MetLife and grab A.B.

Like right now.

Go straight to the MetLife Stadium and go grab him.

So you pull up

what do you tell the security when you're pulling up are you like hey you know antonio brown just quit i'm the guy that's supposed to be pulling up how do you how do you get oh yeah here's the here's the here's the here's the catch to this here's the catch so i me coming from my house it was taking me a little long people were taking pictures so this fucking lunatic jumps into a fucking a state trooper car and the guy flies him to fucking Newark airport to get to get a uh a Tampa a Tampa um flight you know I'm saying right he gets to Newark airport and he's like nah fuck it and he and now me and him are going back and forth on text and and and he's telling me what's going. So I fly to Newark Airport, and he hits me up on FaceTime, and he's like,

yo, man, I can't get on this flight, man.

You know, they're taking pictures and video, man.

Fuck that.

Yo, come pick me up.

We turn it up.

And I'm like, this kid's fucking shot the fuck out.

This kid's really shot out, bro.

There's something fucking wrong with this kid.

So he's fucking Terminal C Level two. He's fucking bugging out.
He's laughing. Like, this fucking guy's laughing like he just fucking scored nine touchdowns during the game.
Like, I couldn't believe what the fuck I was. So I'm like, bro, I'm like, yo, A.B., what up? And he was just, he got in the car and we were gone.
You know what I'm saying? So when he's in the car, is he just like, yo, that was pretty crazy? Or was he just, it was just normal, you know, regular day? Like, yeah. Bro, bro, bro, bro.
If you would have saw him, you would have thought his fucking girl just gave birth to a fucking baby. Like, he was in such a happy mood.
But you could tell, like, he was, like, in a bad, not a bad mood, but maybe he was a little disappointed, but he was trying not to let it get to him. Well, it's got to be nice to quit your job.
No matter what, it's cool to quit your job. Yeah, here's the deal.
He wasn't really signed. He's not signed for a fucking $30, $40 million contract.
You know what I'm saying? So, I mean, AB's got money, so he really doesn't care about you know whatever whatever's going on you know whatever he signed for whatever but um so not that he doesn't care about i don't want to say he doesn't care about it but it's more like you know he really didn't give a fuck to be honest with you know i'm saying so when he got in the car i more or less i flew to the airport because i know ab personally and i know he's a fucking lunatic and i don't want him getting locked up at the airport so I fucking, I was already on my way over there bro. So you pick him up, you get him in the car, he seems to be in a pretty happy mood did he give you any indication whatsoever of what it was that made him make the decision to just throw his shirt and his gloves? Well, here's the deal they were down, I'll be honest with you they were down 24 10 or whatever the score was.
And he wasn't getting the ball. You know what I'm saying? And what really set him off, I think the coach or somebody on the sideline, yeah, it was a coach said something to him, and that really just flipped his fucking top.
You know what I'm saying? That's 100% fact. Yeah.
I don't know if the coach said he was going to bench him. I don't know what was said because I wasn't there, but I know that something was said, and that just made him flip his top because if you watch the game, Gronk was getting the ball the whole time.
You know what I'm saying? Yeah. No, that's true.
I guess my last question is, so he got cut right after the game. Was he in your car when he got officially cut, or did he know this is it, this it, this is not? He was in my car the whole time.
After I picked him up, me and him were in the car for, like, I don't know, like a good two hours. We were just driving around, went to the city.
You know what I'm saying? We just, you know, went to the city and just tried to get that shit off his mind. And, I mean, not that it was going to get off his mind right away, but, you know, tried to get that shit off his mind and put him in a better place.
And me and AB, like, we fuck with each other. So, I mean, he kept saying he was FaceTiming all his people like, yo, man, he picked me up, you know.
Damn, man, he always puts me in a better mood and shit, man. Fuck these folks, you know what I'm saying? But he, you know, he put a post up in the car.
He was even asking me, like, yo, what's like, what you this a good picture is that a good picture and then he's like and he want yo he wanted to go on instagram live and that i was like no yes no shot bro so instagram live and then you know and then his manager was on the phone was like don't do that you know his manager was like don't even attempt to do that and then he was just fucking around. I ain't doing that.
You know what I'm saying, bud? So is he going back to Florida tonight or is he chilling in New York? He is chilling, bro. He's chilling in New York.
I don't know what his plans are, but he's in New York. He's in New York now.
I don't know what his plans are. We're going to do dinner probably a little later and see what's going on.
Now, I lied. I have one last question.
This is actually a very important question because we went through the list of things that Antonio Bras Steelers fan made a list of, like, his transgressions. And there was a very important one that was highlighted when he farted on his doctor.
You've driven him around before. Has he ever farted in the car with the windows up? I'll tell you what, bro.
lot of these guys and you know they're healthy guys right and the healthier the healthier that you are the nastier the fucking fart smell it's a fact so no it's a fact it is a fact bro bro listen saquon is my brother bro shep is my brother let me tell you something about sterling shepherd you do not want to be in the car with that man fart. It's like a fucking...
Bro, it's like chemical warfare. It's probably worse than COVID.
It's worse, bro. It's worse.
Wait, I saw on your profile on Instagram that one of the guys that you drive around is Brooks Koepka. He's a friend of ours.
I know that Brooks is... He's a very healthy guy too.
Has he ever farted in the car with you? Brooks, Brooks has definitely 1,000% farted in the car. And it's funny you bring Brooks up because me and him were on text the whole time as the shit was going on.
And he's like, Danny, no shot. You got AB in the car.
No shot. No shot.
He's like, I'll bet you $1,000 he's not getting on that flight. And I was like, yup, you won, bro.
Me and Brooks are really, really close. That's my dog, bro.
Yeah, he's the best. I also saw a tweet from Brooks saying about this same time that he guarantees that AB is going to fight a Paul brother at some point.
Did AB mention anything about doing celebrity boxing? I don't know, man. I don't know what goes through AB's head, bro.
We're supposed to go out to a fancy restaurant that we might show up at fucking Subway for a fucking ham salami and cheese sandwich, bro. Hey, that's good, too.
The kid's off the wall, bro. That's good, too.
Come by the studio if you guys don't have anything else going on. Yeah.
We're going to be here all night. Nah, AB is just, he's a different, so AB is a different kind of guy, but he's one of the greatest people you ever want to know because he's fucking hilarious.
And if he likes you, he's a loyal person. He's just like Odell.
Same thing. Odell gets a bad rap, but Odell is one of the fucking most genuine.
See, I could call him right now and get 100 grand in two seconds. That's the kind of guy he is.
Well, hard. Yeah.
Yeah. Danny, thank you very much for calling in.
We appreciate it. Anytime.
Stay safe. Anytime.
Yes, stay safe out there with the chemical warfare in your car yeah thank you fellas i'll see you guys later all right see you man later man thank you to danny boy hustle hard um and i don't know where the antonio it's he's never gonna play again in the nfl correct uh i don't know i don't i don't think you understand how quickly an Brown goes through his money. Yeah, but I think it's probably – No, it's the other teams, I think.
Teams, this is – it will be hard for a team to sell this. Now that Al Davis is no longer with us, it's going to be tough.
I'm not saying that he doesn't want to play again in the NFL. He probably will.
I don't know if another team is going to say, let's take another chance on Antonio Brown. You'd quit in the middle of a game.
Oh, I know. I'm trying to think.
There's probably one coach out there that would do it. I feel like- Maybe Jerry Jones.
The Saints might take a chance on a guy like that. Well, they have Michael Thomas.
Not this year. Who is gone.
But they need somebody to fill the Michael Thomas. Yeah, at least Antonio Brown had the decency to quit in front of everyone's face, unlike Michael Thomas.
Where's he been? That was mean. Yeah.
But have we ever heard anything? He's still injured. He's still injured? He's still injured, yeah.
All right. Next up, Eagles, Washington football team.
The Washington football team is eliminated. The Eagles keep rolling.
And also, Raul John, the railing collapsed and almost killed Jalen Hurts after the game which if you haven't seen this video I it was he actually could have gotten very hurt it was a bunch of Eagles fans trying to give a high five to Jalen Hurts and like the entire side of the stands fell and they all fell into the field on like right where Jalen Hurts was standing let this be a lesson FedEx Field is booby-trapped for opposing fans. Yes.
Because we know that there are not going to be a lot of Washington football team fans there. So we're like, hey, you know what they don't know? Is this stadium is actually not tested to have a shitload of very enthusiastic fans in the front of it.
And so they leaned over the railing. They fell.
Jalen Hurts got real lucky because if it had landed on his leg or his knee, just like two three feet closer probably could have broken his legs like it would have been really bad uh that would have been that would have been an all-time moment in washington football stadium history just when you thought the stadium injuries were limited to on the field you can also get dinged up trying to walk after you've beaten us into the tunnel yes uh there was a very funny fan though, though, that was wearing, like, he was wearing the Eagles jersey and a helmet. He had his helmet on, and then afterwards he hung out around Jalen Hurts.
And this actually, this made me more confident in my take that I think that Jalen Hurts could be the next starting quarterback in Philadelphia, like, long term. The way that he handled that was pretty awesome.
He was hanging out. He was like, yeah, let's get some pictures here in my gloves.
He wasn't flustered. He wasn't trying to get out of there.
No. He played it very cool.
I respect Jalen Hurts for that, for dealing with my shitty stadium. I mean, at least there was no sewage this game.
No sewage leaked onto the fans, and no players got killed, even though they could have. But it was a bad game as a Washington football team fan.
Just because I was sad. I was sad because at halftime I thought, you know, I'm going to look up the probability of us getting to the offs if we win this game.
And they weren't that bad. If the Washington football team had won this game, we basically needed two games to break our way, one for the rest of the day, and then one the following week, and we would have been in the playoffs.
And so then I allowed myself to get my hopes up for about 30 seconds. And then we just kind of fell apart in the second half.
But it's probably better off that we don't win this game anyways. Yeah, the blueprint fell apart when I remember when you were in the Washington football team did have a stretch there.
They're playing really good football, that four game winning streak. And you're like, I've mapped it it out we just got to beat the eagles twice and that that didn't happen and that kind of that's where it all fell apart it falls apart in your own division the eagles though they're nick sirianni deserves so much credit he's uh got the most wins of any rookie head coach this year they started um three and six everyone had written them off myself included they end up six and one on that last stretch last seven games now they didn't play like the best teams there were i think there were two wins against oh no they lost the giants excuse me but they you know they played the washington football team twice i think they played the jets in there so it doesn't matter though they have uh like set way to go about the game.
They run the ball. They play good defense.
They've gone 11 straight games rushing for over 100 yards. I just think he deserves a ton of credit because we made fun of him.
A lot of people made fun of him, and he's done a really good job as a first-year head coach. I think what a lot of coaches do is they have their formula for success, and they try to use it on a team regardless of the players and the personnel that they have on the team.
I think Sirianni started to do that a little at the beginning of the year. And then he did more of the judo thing later, where he just let the team's momentum carry him where it was going and just kind of manage his team in terms of what they're already good at and to try to optimize that and to just kind of go along with that.
Don't try to push them in any direction. Don't try to make them fold into a blueprint.
Now they're going to figure out an identity of their own. I like, I like the Seagulls team.
I like, especially now that they've got their offensive line cooking. I love them.
They, they, it sounds very easy, but there's so many coaches that just don't do that. We're like, okay, here's our strength.
Let's play to our strengths. Instead of me trying to run my system all the time, why don't I just play to my team's strengths, my quarterback's strengths, the fact that we have a great offensive line and defensive line, and this is what you get.
And the Eagles are, I think they, if they win, they're in, but I think they have like a 90% chance regardless, so it's looking pretty good like they're going to get into the playoffs. And I don't think anyone expected that when they were 3-6.
And guess what? They also have three first-round picks, which is crazy. Pretty good.
Like a playoff team to have three first-round picks, that's pretty damn good. So I want to applaud part of the process for the Washington football team because they started the season with by far, by far, the 32nd overall ranked third- defense remember it was like week seven and we're debating which team has the worst third I think Jerry was saying the Steelers have by far the worst third down defense in the NFL I was like no no my friend it's the football team we looked it up and I think the football team's percentage was like 14 points worse than the Steelers who are in 31st place over the course of the year, it gives me great pleasure to announce the Washington football team now has the 31st ranked third down defense in the NFL.
But that's a huge gap that they made up. Yeah.
Between 32nd and 31st. So congratulations, Jack Dorio figured it out.
I think the Washington football team have the foundation, and this is going to hurt you, PFT, but it's the quarterback. They need a quarterback.
Yeah. Taylor Heineke is fun, but if they had a real quarterback, that's a real team.
Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah.
They need a quarterback and a name. Those are two pretty important things to a football franchise.
I kind of like that. It's kind of grown on me.
They're going to change it probably in like three weeks, I'm sure, and everyone's going to hate it for a week, and then we'll get used to it, and then it'll just be a fine regular name, and we'll go 500 again next year. Yeah.
And rinse and repeat. Boom.
There it is. And you've got a huge week 18 game against the Giants that you should win.
Goddamn. We should go back to Dave and Buster's.
Am I going to watch that game? I think I have to. No, you're going to do what we did today with the Bears and Giants game.
We watched the first quarter, and then we put it on a laptop because I was like, I'm not going to make everyone. There's six TVs.
I'm not going to make everyone watch the Bears and the Giants on one of the six TVs. Also because you don't want to beat the Giants that badly because you don't even get the normal joy out of that.
Yeah, yeah. You better hope Daniel Jones doesn't play.
Well, he's not going to. Is it going to be Jake Fromm? They told me that Jake Fromm was going to get some reps this week.
No, Mike Glennon. We'll get to that unbelievably bad quarterbacking performance.
Okay. The Rams-Ravens.
Jake, you don't even have to worry about this. Game's over.
Packers-Vikings is donezo. Although Sean Manning just threw a touchdown pass.
So credit to him. Keep that ball.
Maybe have the cornerback sign it. You should be like, I threw a touchdown pass on your ass.
Billy, you see one of the Jets go into the stands and try to rip the ball out of the hands of like a five-year-old i'm trying to figure out what's going on yeah i'm telling you what's going on with it is that a five-year-old got gifted a touchdown ball and they didn't want it and then no then a player from the jets leapt into the stands tried to grab it out of the five-year-old's hands the best part is the five-year-old has tremendous ball security and the jets player couldn't even strip a five--old. Oh, no.
Was he a defensive player? I think he was. It was a bad look.
Oh, no. That's a really bad look.
All right. Rams-Ravens.
Rams-Ravens. This game, even though the Rams won, this is the type of game that if you watched, you're like, oh, that's why I would be nervous about the Rams.
Because Matt Stafford had a terrible first half. He had three turnovers.
He was awesome at the end of the game. I think he went like 14 for 14 down the stretch.
But you can't do that if you're playing against a real playoff team. In the playoffs, you can't be like, oh, let me have a three turnover first half and hope we survive.
It was a very Jameis-like interception. Yeah, and the fumble.
Just found the linebacker, had it returned about six yards for a touchdown. The fumble was bad.
Hollywood Brown played pretty bad. Matter of fact, I feel like this entire offseason, we should take away Hollywood's nickname.
It should last until maybe next preseason we'll give it back to him if he makes a good catch because this was a stinker of a game. I like it.
Yeah, but this game, even though the Rams won and they deserve credit for gutting out a win, and Odell Beckham is absolutely a game changer. That catch he made on fourth and five when he had a defender draped all over him and Matt Stafford threw it a million miles an hour.
That was an insane catch. We've made our jokes about Odell Beckham, but he is an absolute difference maker.
I just watched that game. I was like, Rams, you basically live and die.
Is Matt Stafford going to wake up and have a bad game? Is he going to wake up and just be Lions Matt Stafford versus what we saw for a few weeks this year with the Rams when he was lighting the world on fire? So it's going to be a question of the matchup that the Rams get in the playoffs because there are a lot of teams in the NFC that I actually think their style kind of matches up pretty well against where they can get away with being a little candy ass and being a little finesse, as Julian Edelman puts it. But there's a chance that they would have to play either the Eagles or the 49ers in the first round.
I think the 49ers kicked the shit out of them. Well, Kyle Shanahan owned Sean McVay.
And Sean McVay, also just their style of play. I think the Eagles could kick the shit out of the Rams in the playoffs.
Yeah, I mean, it's just you watch them, and they have all the talent in the world. And Vaughn Miller, I think, had two sacks today, and their defense is playing well.
But Matt Stafford, if he just wakes up on the wrong side of the bed, you're fucked. That's kind of like the Matt Stafford.
You're just rolling the dice. And can he do it four games in a row to win a Super Bowl? I don't know.
Maybe? Yeah. Probably not.
Probably not. Probably not.
But he's probably going to, I think, if he doesn't get matched up against one of those two teams, I don't know what the potential matchups do look like. There are a lot of teams that are higher seeded in the NFC that I think that the Rams match up better against than those at the lower.
But it comes down to it. We've seen it a few times.
Do you remember the Titans game where if Matt Stafford is just going to decide today's the day I'm going to throw a pick six, you're going to lose in the playoffs. You just are.
And it's just the Ravens have been decimated by injury. They've completely fallen off a cliff.
They've lost five straight. They went from 8-3 to 8-8.
And it's weird because the Ravens have a season where everything fell apart, but you still are feeling good about the future because you have John Harbaugh and you have Lamar Jackson and you have a good core. And if guys just come back from injuries, you'll be okay.
But it's got to be disappointing if you go back to, i don't know early november when we all thought oh the ravens are are one of the teams the afc that absolutely can get to the super bowl and spin zone for the ravens fans out there um you figured out how to lose a game by one or two points that didn't come down to a two-point conversion on the end and and you have tyler huntley as your backup so lamar jackson like if if you could do a lot worse like that actually is a really great thing the Ravens found out that they feel comfortable going into next year that they have he's what I was told RG3 would be for the Ravens yeah he's he is he's the backup that can can keep things together if Lamar Jackson goes out he's also even though he hasn't won a ton of games. The funny thing is, I still think he's good.
No, I do too.

We're eyeball guys.

Yes.

And the funny thing is, by having Tyler Huntley on your own team,

he's probably the best scout team, Lamar Jackson,

of any other player in the NFL right now.

So you got Lamar Jackson and his clone. Can some Ravens fan explain to me why?

I saw Lamar Jackson, they had trotted him out for practice

and his ankle was just not okay.

Their field turf was like yellow.

No, it was no it was uh like cardboard color what was it was dirt i think it's the kind of grass they use on there i think i feel like they grow mids so i around this time of year it gets you know it gets drier outside for the most part not as much rain but it looks so weird because it looked almost like field turf i thought maybe they were doing it as like some competitive edge that you can see i don't know can you can you try to find out for me have you seen that jake it's fucking weird yeah i don't see anything right now uh twitter searching raver raven's turf raven's turf color raven's practice field practice field not there it was so bizarre turf it looked it was basically the Boise blue turf, but just yellow. It was beige.
Yeah, beige. He looked like Jeff D.
Lowe hosting something. I'll keep looking.
Okay, that's okay. It's not really an important thing.
I was just upset when I saw it, and it didn't have an answer. But Tyler Huntley, good backup.
You have him next year. I think he's an exclusive rights-free agent, so he'll definitely be signed to the Ravens.
He can't go anywhere else. It'd be crazy to have him not come back.
So you have a backup. Good.
Good job, Ravens. That's the nice thing you can say about the Ravens right now.
You have a backup. That's actually a big question, though, for Lamar.
It's like if you can have somebody backing him up for whenever he turns an ankle or gets diarrhea that's a pretty big asset i feel like we've seen so many ravens games over the last couple years where they resort to like a third string quarterback that comes in like a trace mcsorley yeah and having a guy that is locked in behind him it's it's a luxury i don't know the ravens roster front to back so i don't know like what they're going to be going for in the draft, but I do know it's another deep wide receiver draft. The Ravens know that.
But if they can get one game-changing guy, like if the Ravens had Jamar Chase, you know what I mean, or they had Justin Jefferson, if they had drafted a game-changing wide receiver in the first round, which there will be some this year, some even in the second round, I feel like that takes their whole offense to a different level. Right, but this is what people have been saying about the Ravens for literally 15 years.
I know, I know, I know. But I'm just throwing it out.
Like, not even exaggeration. Every year for 15 years, Ravens fans are like, if we just get a wide receiver, we're good.
No, I know, I know. But I'm just, you know, do it, Ravens.
Finally do it. Okay, next up we have Raiders-Colts.
What a day for my pinky. The Colts lose at home.
They now have to win Week 18, which they will because they're playing the Jaguars. So they're going to be in the playoffs still.
But they lose the AFC South. They also lose seeding.
They might end up being like the sixth or seventh seed now. The Raiders, Rich Basicchia, the Raiders have to be one of the top three best stories right now in terms of the NFL.
The fact that they are in a win-and-get-in game against the Chargers in Week 18 after John Gruden, after Henry Ruggs, after everything. They've lost a bunch of games.
They were three weeks ago. They were staring at 6-7, and the season was over.
They've won three games in a row, like, by two points or three points. It's crazy.
The Raiders deserve all the credit in the world. I don't know how you don't have Rich Pasickia be the coach next year.
Yeah, you've got to bring him back. Do it before.
You absolutely have to. Do it before.
In the locker room, like the locker room like they're giving a scholarship before the game mark davis is like hey coach i just want you to sign this real quick i guarantee you if they do that they win that yes yes they got to do that there's no other way like that's think of all the small inches that you would gain in that game as al pacino was doing the these inches are all around us you would own every inch that was floating out there if you gave old rich the contract and he would sign up like he wouldn't even have to get his agent involved he would sign in blood yeah no and mark davis would be like all right cool that contract says that i get to pay you fifty thousand dollars a year yeah the only problem is everybody would just cry in the locker room yes they get a little bit dehydrated derrick carr's mascara would be running all over his face it would be a bad scene but. But that's actually a brilliant thing that the Raiders should do.
Because I don't think that you're going to find any coach out there that has the pulse of that locker room like Rich does. And he's got him on the cusp.
I hope they make this a Sunday night football game. I assume they will.
They got to, yeah. Yeah.
It is a win, a true win and get in, in Las Vegas, Sunday night. I'm just calling it right now.
Week 18, Chargers at Raiders. That's fucking awesome.
Yeah, it's going to be great. And I was hoping that we'd get to see Sam Ellinger today.
Obviously, the NFL felt a different way. They saw the Ian Book performance.
And not only did they say, we're just going to ignore all the COVID stuff, but they also said, okay, you don't even have to be totally recovered from COVID yet. As long as you just say that you're feeling better and that your name's not Ian Book, we will let you start in an NFL game.
So Carson Wentz was like, yeah, I was sick. I swear to God, I'm feeling better.
I'm good. I'm on back.
And he played okay. He had that excellent touchdown pass to T.Y.
Hilton. He threw an absolute dime right between, I think it hit four Raiders' hands.
It was so bad. And this is why I've gone back and forth between being scared for my pinky and being like, I'm fine.
Right now, I'm fine. Because this is Carson Wentz.
And he has played well. He's good this year.
But he's had games where the real Carson Wentz shows up, kind of like Matt Stafford or like Jimmy Garoppolo. Are you going to win four games in a row with these guys playing like their best without any hiccups? I don't buy it.
I do not buy it. And I think he's been pretty bad he played well in Arizona that Arizona game but he was bad in the Patriots game he was bad today and I know obviously he's he didn't throw any interceptions but that was an interception that he threw that just happened to bounce off everyone right and he's not doing things that like win them the games and I I just feel comfortable.
I feel comfortable with my with my pinky knowing Carson Wentz can't string together four straight games where he's like incredible. No, it's not going to happen.
I think that your pinky is totally safe. I would say that it's way more likely that Matt Stafford.
Yes. Do it.
Then Carson Wentz could do. Absolutely.
But they're the guys. It's it's not like they're not good quarterbacks because Matt Stafford is a good quarterback and carson wentz has shown that he can be a good quarterback it's just the consistency of do you just know that they'll show up and they won't like completely shit down their legs and i don't think that that's you can say that i have a hypothesis about carson wentz i'm checking up on the schedule right now to make sure that it's right but i i feel like he plays better when he's slightly injured.
A little bit. When he doesn't even have the internal belief in himself that he can do superhuman things.
Because that's one of Carson Wentz's biggest problems is, like we say, he never thinks that a play is dead. Right.
He thinks he can escape out of anything. But if he knows that he's limited a little bit, then he knows that he can't escape out of anything then he makes smarter plays occasionally so I'm looking up to see when he when he had the two the double sprained ankle yes that was it was that against the Titans yes I believe so I think they lost they lost 16 they've lost both yeah they lost both times to the Titans so they lost 25 16 maybe maybe two sprained ankles too much I think one sprained ankle is the perfect amount for Carson Wentz to play on.
The last thing I had on this game is that I love Derek Carr to Hunter Renfro. It's rare.
Hunter Renfro is not an elite. Well, you could make the argument he's an elite receiver for what he does, but he's not.
You know what I mean? He's not a guy who's putting up insane out of this world numbers like Jamar Chase 266 yards but Hunter Renfro like when Derek Carr needs a big play he's always there and their connection is so lockstep it's awesome to watch it's similar to like a Brady and Edelman or Rogers and Devontae. When guys have that with their receivers,

they're like Kelsey Mahomes,

and you just know that they will always get that first down.

And that happened on that last drive.

He threw that like Derek Carr threw that.

I think it was like kind of a moon ball to Hunter Renfro

that was perfect.

And Hunter Renfro's always there to make a big catch.

It just occurred to me,

they kind of remind me of Harry and Marv from Home Alone. If you did a gritty reboot of it where they were in their 30s or late 20s, and then Marv would be Derek Carr.
Because Hunter Renfro's kind of balding. He's trying to make up for it with his beard.
Listen, Blake Bortles needs to, they actually need to sign Blake Bortles so that he can teach Hunter Renfro how to do the quick helmet to hat. Just shave his head.
I guarantee if Rich Basickia gets that contract extension, he could just be like, all right, boys, let's all shave our heads for solidarity with Rich. Right.
And then Derek, okay, Derek, you're good. Hunter, you go first, actually.
Okay, yeah, Hunter's going to go first, and then they'll be like, what, got to run out on the field, game's time. Yeah, it's just there's something about having a receiver that you know, like big moment, they'll always be there, and they'll always get that first down, and that's just Hunter Renfro and Derek Carr.
And Derek Carr, even though he had a couple picks, like, I don't know, he's slowly, like, getting on that short list of guys that if he has a chance to get them in a field goal range or score a touchdown late, I actually trust him, which is crazy to say. I don't really trust him still.
I know. It's crazy.
It's crazy. He doesn't throw enough interceptions.
No, because every single play that Derek Carr—Derek Carr is the king of plays looking like they're just going to be a complete and utter calamity, and then he sidesteps his way out of it and hits Hunter Redfro. And he runs with tremendous balance.
He should have gotten sacked like four times on that last drive. Yeah.
He throws a very pretty deep ball, too. Now I understand why Deshaun Jackson wanted to play with Derek Carr.
That's the perfect quarterback for Deshaun Jackson. Yes.
And I know that he hasn't caught those 70-yard passes, but I know that he has been open once or twice. Derek Carr's almost connected.
Wait, is he not hurt? Not yet, because he hasn't made his catch yet. Oh.
I thought he got hurt. Give him after the touchdown.
I just always assumed he was hurt. No, he's going to catch a touchdown against the Chargers, and it's going to be 82 yards, and then he's going to have a sprained ankle

because he's actually going to get tackled at the one

because he's going to Dougie at the two

and then get lit up, and then he's out for the season.

You're probably right.

I hope that happens.

Yeah, so week 18, Raiders-Chargers.

It's going to be awesome.

All right, Titans-Dolphins.

Jake, it's over.

It was a great run.

It was a great run.

But?

Can't play Ian Book every week.

Thank you. All right, Titans, Dolphins.
Jake, it's over. It was a great run.
It was a great run. But can't play Ian Book every week.
This might sound a little hindsight. The only reason I made that prediction of 500 by Christmas was simply because of the schedule.
Yeah, it was. And they finally had a tough game.
The Dolphins had quite the schedule there because it was the stretch of quarterbacks they played against. Ryan Tannehill, look, he's basically the greatest of all time when you put him up against some of the quarterbacks that the Dolphins were playing against.
I think it was, I'm going to pull up the list, but obviously Ian Book last week, they beat the Jets twice, I want to say. One with Flacco.
One with Flacco. They beat some combination.
See, the teams are so bad sometimes that you don't even know what combination. Like, it was Tyrod Taylor and maybe Tyler Huntley.
And then... Was it Mike Lennon or was it Daniel Taylor? No, it was Michael.
Actually, I have a stat that will shock you because I know that I'm going to be under heat here for Tuanon, right? Like, Tua's my guy. I'm part of Tuanon.
The greatest part about being in a cult like Tuanon is that we always have each other's backs. So I was given a stat that will shock you and also make you realize it wasn't Tua's fault today.
So this is from Valley Boy Sports. The Dolphins this year are 8-0.

8-0 when they play a team with a quarterback, starting quarterback,

who has an O in his last name.

Whoa.

They're 0-8 when they play a team with the starting quarterback who does not have an O in his last name.

Okay, so I'm going through the teams that they play.

I have the list.

I have the list. So Josh Allen would be one of those quarterbacks.
So here's the 8-0. These are the teams that they beat.
Mack Jones, Tyrod Taylor, and this is the craziest part because some of these teams had other quarterbacks during the year, but it happened to be that Tyrod Taylor started against the Dolphins, not Davis Mills. They would have lost if Davis Mills had started.
Mac Jones, Tyrod Taylor, Lamar Jackson,

Zach Wilson twice, Cam Newton, Mike Glennon,

Ian Book, not Taysom Hill.

That's 8-0.

0-8 against Josh Allen twice, Derek Carr,

Carson Wentz, Tom Brady, Trevor Lawrence,

Matt Ryan, and today with Ryan Tannehill. So who do you play next week? It's Matt Jones.
That's a win. That's a win.
So now if Matt Jones wins next week, that throws the whole stat off. It does, but they're eliminated, so we don't even have to count the stat anymore.
You got to know. If Kevin Hogan had played today for the Titans instead of Ryan Tannehill, the Dolphins' season would still be alive.
This is not to his fault. The rain was offensive, to say the least.
It was only raining when the Dolphins had the fault of that. Dangerous.
I noticed that. Borderline a hazard.
The announcer said, it's really raining. Yeah.
I mean, there you go. I have a question about Ryan Tannehill and his switch from wide receiver to quarterback Yeah How bad was he at wide receiver Because every time I watch him run with a ball There's nothing about him that screams like He's kind of fast Yeah exactly He's kind of fast Yeah he's kind of fast But you would assume that Like a converted wide receiver to a quarterback It has been a while Yeah But if he didn't't Tua's fault.
He just went up against a quarterback without knowing their last name. I'm a Tua-Tuther? A Tua-Tuther? Yeah, I don't know.
What's his brother's? Tuala. Tuala? Tuala.
Yeah. Shout out to him.
He's the fucking easiest bowl winner of all time. I'm in the Tuala band.
I'm not a Tua-Nan guy. I think Tua, he looks so cool that he makes people want to root for him.
He was bad today, but it also was out of his hands because he didn't play a quarterback with an O in his last name. He also had four of those plays where the ball was next to him on the ground.
Yeah, well, it was raining, PFT. I don't know if you saw it.
Do you want me to say the quote again? The announcer said, it's really raining. Yeah, this is a game on against the team that's the number one in the conference.
So let's talk about the Titans because the Titans, the fact that the Titans are the one seed in the AFC and they should beat the Texans next week. They did lose to the Texans earlier this year.
Just when you think the Titans are dead or we've been disrespecting them so much, now you look up, it's week 17. With the Chiefs lost, they're the one seed.
They will have a bye. Mike Vrabel deserves coach of the year.
I saw the stat. The NFL record 88 different players played for the Titans this year, which is insane.
That's an all-time record? Is that leading the league this year? All-time record. All-time record.
I do want to make a plea, though, to Titans fans. You don't want our respect.
It's working for you. Why would you want to be respected at this point? This is the rarest thing you can have in all the sports.
You're literally the one seed in the AFC, and you're disrespected. That's incredible.
To be able to play that card of, like, no one believes in us, and truly no one believes in you. And they've also got Derrick Henry coming back, and he's going to actually try to play in the playoffs.
And still no one's going to believe in you. Right.
And you're going to be able to say, wait, we've got the returning leading rusher from last year. We've got a team that's been dominant against very, very good teams this year.
Yeah, they suck against some bad teams. But guess what? You're not going to be playing any bad teams in the playoffs.
You're playing good teams. Everything is aligning perfectly.
You're at home? You have Fat Randy. You finally have a kicker.
That's been like your worst problem for the last couple years. Yep.
The Super Bowl goes through Nashville. Two games.
You win two games at home and you're in the super bowl it's crazy and i still again don't believe in them which you want me to say that because that's all anyone does everyone's like ah yeah maybe not because ryan tannahill who knows i they're here they've they've battled through like everything mike rabel should be coach of the year I was like, coach of the year Mike Vrabel. And he's like, oh, now you believe in me? No.
Now I was like, no, fuck that. I'll chip on your shoulder still.
You know what? That was a very funny response. He's like, oh, shit.
The most important player, A.J. Brown.
The team looks so different with him coming back. Absolutely.
Is Julio out for the year? No, I think he's back too. He hasn't been good.
Julio has like two things wrong. I think he's got COVID and hamstring.
And old. Yeah, and he's old.
Yeah. But yeah, no, AJ Brown is an absolute beast.
I just, if I were a Titans fan, I know Titans, shout out all of our Titan fan listeners. Shout out the boys.
They're relentless on Twitter. Why would you want us to respect you at this point because the minute we start respecting you everything like you guys are you have the golden ticket you are the one seed that can play the disrespect card that's so rare that's what you thrive off of you know how hard it is right to be a one seed and to still be able to play that card legitimately nick saban would kill to be in this position nick sab Nick Saban, this is what he wakes up and he dreams of.
Right. He has to invent ways of people disrespect.
He has to have people that go through every article written on every website about the Crimson Tide to find one small thing to be like, oh, look, this guy thinks that our punter isn't as good as the guy that we had last year. Right.
You don't let him your boy like that like this is what every coach absolutely wants yes you think the packers can play the disrespect card no chance everyone lists the packers like the chiefs can't put the disrespect card oh no aaron the two c aaron rogers is like i've been canceled that's his that's true since aaron rogers has been canceled he's like now i'm on fuck you yeah fuck you mode but i just if you like the tit deserve all the credit in the world what they fought back through this entire season every time I've doubted them every time everyone's doubted them even when they're down 10 nothing or whatever it was against the 49ers on that Thursday game that we didn't recap ever on this show it's they always find a way and they're just a fucking gritty tough team that's gonna be a real hard out and the Super Bowl goes through Nashville and you know what now that I said all this Texans probably will beat you next week because Davis Mills is that good well and also that's disrespect and also the Titans don't play good against shitty teams yeah and that's the chip on your shoulder yep so there you get better against shitty teams and I'll start to believe where's the state of the Dol of the Dolphins? This is Brian Flores' MO.

Every year just do enough to be like, well, they're building something.

Yeah, exactly.

It's time to get to a more weapons.

Oh, okay.

Actually, the best thing ever, the most Dolphins thing ever,

would be if they beat the Patriots in the last week of the season.

They end up 9-8, and now you're like, okay, yeah,

they're really putting something together.

They're really building this thing.

It's really going to work next year. Alave.
Oh. That's the pick.
Oh, okay. Yeah.
Jalen Waddell on one side. Olave.
Starts to build like the Bengals. He's got these stud receivers.
Okay. We'll see.
Yeah. I'm not going to give up on being 2-0.
Especially knowing that it was out of his hands today. If you believe in 2-0, you believe in destiny.
Destiny told us today was never going to be a win for the Dolphins, ever. Because of the symbolism.
The quarterback, yeah. The symbolism, yeah.
Right, exactly. Okay, the Bills-Falcons.
I just have a rule that any time a game starts with a safety, I just write it off as this game's going to be weird and no one's going to know what's going to happen. It was a pretty normal game for the most part.
It settled down, but it was. It did have that one play towards the end.
This is a rule change that needs to be put into effect. Do you know what I'm about to talk about? Matt Ryan? Matt Ryan scored a touchdown.
Well, no, he didn't. No, but he scored a touchdown, celebrated, got penalized for taunting.
They took the touchdown off, but the taunting penalty remains. No, so he didn't score a touchdown, though.
He was like an inch short. That's why the taunting penalty was in effect.
Right, but I thought initially there was one ref that ruled it a touchdown. Yeah, but I think they looked at it and they said it wasn't a touchdown.
That's exactly what I'm saying then. Right.
I think that if it's not a touchdown, you should not be penalized for the taunt that results. Correct.
Because the play never happened. The touchdown never happened.
Right. You could do anything.
You could stab a guy. Also, you should never get Matt Ryan for a taunting penalty because it's Matt Ryan.
Who can he taunt? Like Jordan Poirier, I think, said it's going to stay between the lines what someone asked him what Matt Ryan said to him it could have been that bad like what what is Matt Ryan going to say that's like getting yeah it's like getting taunted by a puppy he probably was like woo that was a touchdown he's a big come on yeah let's go let's go let's fucking go touchdown probably just like let's go man yeah we're still gonna lose but touchdown. In your face.
Yeah, probably in your face. Talk to the hand.
Like, what is Matt Ryan going to do to taunt? Actually, shout out Jordan Poirier. Now that I'm thinking about it, he was nice enough.
He didn't say what Matt Ryan said because Matt Ryan said something offensive. He said it because it was so lame that he didn't want to.
He was like, you know what? I'm going to have his back. If I told everyone what Matt Ryan actually said, we'd laugh at him and be like, are you fucking serious? He didn't want to he was like you know what i'm gonna have his back if i told everyone what matt ryan actually said we'd laugh at him and be like are you fucking serious he didn't want the nfl to like retroactively rescind the taunting penalty when he was like no he just said way to compete out there yeah sorry for scoring he said i burned you i toasted you he was matt ryan probably uses and one shit talk to the hand yeah you brought an wet.
Like, what is Matt Ryan going to do? Bring a notebook because I'm taking you to school. It's like, come on.
Josh Allen did have like a full mash all the buttons game because he went. I think he had two rushing touchdowns and then three picks right after.
Yeah, his mash all the buttons plays were pretty sick, though. They were.
When the Bills call that rushing play, it's basically the flying V for Muddy Ducks when Josh Allen gets the ball, and then he's just got like three guys ahead of him in a wedge, and he just follows it. That's the Bills' best rushing attack right there.
And at least the Bills now are trying to have some sort of offensive identity kind of centered around the rushing game. A lot of times it's Josh Allen running the ball, but sometimes it's not.
Sometimes it's Moss running the ball. And so it's a more balanced Bills team than we've seen.
Now it's going to be very interesting because in the playoffs, we're probably going to get a rematch of the week's 13 and 16 Super Bowls of the Bills and the Patriots. And it's going to be in Buffalo.
Which is going to be incredible. And that's going to be an incredible game.
And I cannot wait to see how drunk that stadium is.

Hopefully the Saturday night game, maybe even the Monday night game.

That would be fun.

Give them a Saturday.

Give them a Saturday. Let them spend all day doing it,

and then give them also the freedom to know that the next day

they don't have to go to work.

Yes, yes.

Hank, what were you going to say?

I just can't wait either.

I'm very excited.

All right, we're going to do the Patriots next. One last word, though, about the Falcons.
Arthur Smith deserves credit because I thought the Falcons were going to be an absolute disaster this year. The fact that they were still in the hunt, technically not eliminated until week 17, is pretty crazy.
I think I actually said the Falcons are going to win four or five games. They far exceeded it.
They weren't a great team. They weren't a good team.
I don't even think they were a good team because we've looked at it. They were the best bad team where they beat up on all the bad teams and they got killed by any team with a pulse.
By far the best bad team. By far the best bad team.
But Arthur Smith deserves a ton of credit because he didn't he didn't inherit an awesome situation oh yeah and his best offensive weapon calvin ridley you know stepped away from football in the middle of the season like there's a lot of things that were against the falcons and they had a respectable season and going into this game i don't think anyone expected the falcons win because of those analytics that we've told you about how they just get the shit kicked out of them all the time by any team that's above 500.

Yep.

And also because the Falcons uniforms, they just don't belong in the snow.

No.

Just as a franchise.

Nope.

The Falcons should never play a snow game.

It looks weird.

And it's not just like Southern teams that I think don't look right in the snow.

Because sometimes the Southern team, they have that fish out of water thing in the snow that kind of looks right, like the Dolphins.

I can see them playing snow games all the time. But falcons the falcons don't play snow games no i feel like the rams don't play snow games yes no definitely not the rams don't play snow games the dolphins will get killed will get creamed in a snow game yeah but i've seen the dolphins play snow games yeah you have i don't think i've played the Rams played in Lambeau last year in the playoffs.
It wasn't snowing. It was coldish.
It was cold. But you know what I'm saying? The Falcons, they don't belong in the snow.
They stay in the south. Keep them home.
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Alright. We got a couple games we can whip through.
The Patriots absolutely shit-pumped the Jaguars. The only thing of note that I had from this game was Jacksonville clinched the number one pick in the draft.
Congrats to them. They're officially on the clock.
Back-to-back years. And then the Patriots clinched the playoffs, and Bill Belichick now has 20 10-win seasons.
20 10-win seasons. He is tied for the record with Don Shula, who had 20 10-win seasons in 33 years of coaching.
Bill Belichick has head coached 27 years. So one little thing a note from this game is we can probably put to bed all the rumors of the fact that Mac Jones and Bill Belichick don't like each other very much, or that for whatever reason they're not getting along.
Yeah, I mean, there were some rumors going through the last couple weeks that he didn't really trust them, that he wasn't in a good position with the team. We can put those rumors to bed because they beat the Jaguars? Because they made a joke on the sidelines, and Mac Brown laughed really, really hard when Bill Belichick made his joke.
Mack Jones. What did I say? Mack Brown.
Mack Jones laughed really, COVID brain. Yeah.
Hank, thoughts? This game was, I mean, it was just an absolute. Yeah, 50-burger.
Patriots have done a very good job this year beating bad teams. They struggle against good teams.
The Dolphins, I think, are the perfect good-ish, bad-ish team. How the Patriots play in that game will kind of dictate how I feel about them going to the playoffs.
They have nothing to play for. The Dolphins.
Still. Dolphins are always...
The Dolphins and Patriots end of the season. Always a tough matchup.
I know Belichick's going to want to win the game. It's more just how the Patriots play as a team.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Are you saying it's a must-win game? No, it's not a must-win.
It'll just be a good litmus test for the playoffs. I was going to say the must-win game, we'd have to take the under.
Wait, hang on. Litmus.
Litmus. Litmus.
Whatever the fuck. Do you know what a litmus test is? Yeah, it's a good test of how you look before going into the season don't don't brain shame him i'm asking matt brown i'm asking i'm doing i'm dealing with brain fog right now um yeah this i mean we turned it off after like what a quarter and a half because it was there was a moment where hank and i both like i had the bears and giants on and he had the patriots jaguars on and we both agreed like we can't make everyone else watch these games so we have to turn these off and put on like the Bears and Giants on, and he had the Patriots-Jaguars on, and we both agreed, like, we can't make everyone else watch these games, so we have to turn these off and put on, like, the Rams and Ravens.
So, a big moment from us. All right, so what are you feeling, Hank? 1-10.
How are you feeling? Going into the playoffs. 10.
Super excited. I mean, obviously, Bills fans, they had my number.
They had a lot of chirps for me over the break. Well, you had to take a day off.
I had to take a day off. I had to go in the ocean and just drown my thoughts of what Bills fans were saying to me.
But that's fine. I want this playoff matchup.
It will be a great test if the Bills are really as good as they say they are. If they really are stepping up and no longer being little brother in the AFC East, this will be the perfect way to do it.
I think the Patriots will win. It will make it that much sweeter.

And I know. I want it.
I want the smoke.

What happens if the Bills win? Are they no longer little brother? Are you twins?

Are they big brother? Where are we at?

Yeah, I think they would probably, you know, it would...

Fraternal twins.

Well, it's like a fight. It's like when you're a little brother,

you know how if you have a little brother, you always beat

him up, you always beat him up, you always beat him up. Eventually,

he hits puberty and he can probably take

you. And then it becomes more of an even fight.

And usually when that happens, I feel like

Thank you.

And then it becomes more of an even fight.

And usually when that happens, I feel like they stop fighting as much because the big brother doesn't want to get beat up.

I think it's – It would be like that.

Yeah, their little brother, big brother went to college.

And while big brother was at college, little brother figured out what a weight room looked like.

And maybe a couple rounds of creatine came back and was like oh fuck yeah little brother's jacked right yeah yeah right billy hell yeah um okay that was i mean 50 burger what more can you say exactly uh all right bears giants uh this game was terrible as well i mean it was great for the bears i enjoyed watching and being like, oh, the Bears are not as bad as the Giants, this game was terrible as well. I mean, it was great for the Bears.
I enjoyed watching and being like, oh, the Bears are not as bad as the Giants. Let's just say that.
They're not even close to as bad as the Giants. Mike Glennon was 4 for 11 for 24 yards.
4 for 11 for 24 yards. Negative 10 net yards.
4 for 11 for 24 yards. The Bears' defense swallowed him whole right from the beginning.
Like the first play from scrimmage, they fucking just broke him in half. I love that Joe Judge saw the split in this game.
He was like, okay, we're going to lose by a lot, but we're still going to run the ball 40 times. Yep.
Joe Judge, that's his – They're running Wildcat. That's his understanding of analytics.
Yeah. He's the guy that's like, you know, teams that can run the ball 40 times, they win 95% of those games.
Yes. And so he looks at the stat sheet at the end of the game.
He's like, well, what the fuck happened here? How'd we lose? Yeah. Yeah.
He's like, well, we established the run. Yeah.
Come on. What happened here? Yeah.
The Bears, like, there's, I mean, the last two wins have meant nothing. They don't have their first round pick weirdly enough.
The Giants do. do so the giants hurt their first round pick that they got from the bears because the bears got another win but they helped their own their own first right right got it correct um but yeah the bears absolutely demolished them i it's like matt nagy's gone here's what i'll.
There have been some murmurs in my mentions and around like,

oh, wow, Bears fought the last two games.

No, no, no.

Matt Nagy's gone.

He's fired.

The question is just whether Ryan Pace gets fired, which he should be,

because we saw Mike Glennon, who may I just remind everyone,

Ryan Pace has paid Mike Glennon like 60% of his career earnings in one year.

He thought that Mike Glennon was a true starting quarterback in the NFL. So Joe Judge after the game, did you see what Joe Judge said? I've seen a lot of Joe Judge quotes.
I'm ready to go with all of them. This one is wild.
So this is why I feel very confident that Matt Nagy is absolutely 100% fired. Joe Judge after the game said that there are players that were on the Giants last year that have reached out to him and said how much they wish they were still on the team even though they're getting paid somewhere else, more somewhere else.
Yep. Joe Judge said this.
Yeah, sir. Big strong men keep calling me and they've got tears in their eyes and they say I wish I was playing for you sir though I wish I was playing for the four win Giants that have not been competitive in two months even though I'm getting paid more money where I'm at so who's he talking about Colt McCoy I I don't know we got to find the list find who was on the Giants last year? But so here's why I'm feeling good,

because Joe Judge is clearly at the point of his career, season,

whatever you want to say, where he's just making shit up.

Literally making shit up.

He also said that Matt Nagy is a very good coach

and the Bears are a good coach team.

So I feel good because he's making shit up.

Those two things go hand in hand.

He's just saying shit to say shit.

He doesn't actually believe any of it.

None of it is actually true.

So when he said... So I feel good because he's making shit up.
Those two things go hand in hand. He's just saying shit to say shit.

He doesn't actually believe any of it.

None of it is actually true.

So when he says Matt Nagy's, you know, the Bears are a very good coach team, he's lying. And when he says people are calling him up saying they wish they were playing for the four-win Giants,

even though they're making more money somewhere else, he's lying.

I'm just going to say, yeah, right off the top that Colt McCoy is really the only.

Is there any other free agent that's left the Giants?

He's not a free agent.

I'm not going to say, yeah, right off the top that Colt McCoy is really the only. Is there any other free agent that's left the Giants? He's not a free agent.
Colt McCoy. Yeah, Colt McCoy probably wants to play for the Giants because he doesn't want to play in the playoffs.
He's old. He wants to go home.
He wants to enjoy his offseason. It's not a big list.
Yeah. It's not a big list of guys that aren't on the Giants anymore.
It's made up. It's completely made up.
It's just completely made up. But I do respect him for just like throwing that out there.
Trying. Because he has an audience of one with that post-game speech, and that's Mr.
Mara. He's trying to convince Mr.
Mara that he should be kept around next year because all the former players love him so much. And it's almost like he thinks that Yelp reviews are going to save his job.
Like, hey, check this out. Everyone says they had a great time when they were here.
You should be able to Yelp review or Glassdoor. Glassdoor is the one for jobs, right, where you can talk about your coworkers, your boss, the salary.
Billy's already logged in on Glassdoor just saying, I really like my job, but I really wish that my bosses had peanut allergies so I could slather Jif all over their noses. Do you think it was Kelvin Benjamin? Oh, no, because he's not playing anywhere else, is he? Well, maybe that is, because he wishes he was playing in the NFL still.
That's what I was looking at. Well, Kelvin Benjamin might be getting paid somewhere else more than he was getting paid.
Maybe Kelvin Benjamin started a catering company, and it's doing really, really well because he eats all the food that he makes. All-time quote.
I would love to know. Go on the record.
Let's see. Can we pull up his call logs? Can we NSA him? He also said- Just for once.
I'm not here to argue about stats. It is what it is when he was asked about their 10 net passing yards today.
It wasn't good enough. He's basically, yeah, listen, you can make stats say whatever you want, whether they had negative 10 yards or 600 yards passing.
We still lost. That's pretty much what he's saying.
Dude, you had negative 10 yards passing. It's pretty tough to do.
Again, it was, I've been down about the Bears. I've reached the apathetic, like, who cares point of the season because Justin Fields isn't even playing.
But it always is nice to see you. It's basically a verbal meme, big dog, little dog.
Like, oh, the Bears are a disaster, but they're not that because that is just really bad. And they're keeping Joe Judge.
the bears are a disaster and they're firing matt nagy the giants are a disaster and they're keeping joe judge and they announced that they're also going to have daniel jones be your starting quarterback which there was no reason to announce that right now none um unless it's just leaked out from joe judge yeah and joe judge is saying hey uh i'm hearing word around the organization is that me and Daniel Jones are both staying. And then it gets put out in the press that way.
That's the only explanation I can think of. I don't know what else is going on there.
But Joe Judge also, he tried to take a shot at my Washington football team, gave us some bulletin board material. Oh, wow.
For next week after the game. He said, listen, we're not having fist fights on the sideline.
This ain't no show oh nice so embrace the bait are the giants a clown show organization because i'll put my hand up washington football team's a fucking clown car it's a clown car that's that's packed to the gills with buttholes it always has been but i don't i feel like the giants are also getting close to being a clown show. Yeah.

No, I think they're past the clown show.

They've lost the most games.

But the thing is, you can be a loser, but not necessarily a clown show.

Right, but I think it's clown show.

The fact that Joe Judge is coming back, and again,

who announces your starting quarterback in December for next year?

Why?

It's actually similar to the Bears announcing Andy Dalton, QB1.

Thank you. They announced, who announces your starting quarterback in December for next year? Like, why? It's actually similar to the Bears announcing Andy Dalton QB1 for no reason.
And then not having a competition. Like, if the Giants actually go through with it and don't have a QB competition, and I'm a Daniel Jones believer, but that's crazy.
Do you think it's doubly embarrassing for Ryan Pace to watch his team beat the shit out of Mike Glennon for another team? Do you think he could take pleasure in that? Or do you think the entire time he's thinking to himself like, yikes, the guy that I paid all this money to is the only reason that my current shitty team is able to win a game? Right. He's like, I'm really bad.
Yeah, this was actually all long con by Ryan Pace. To win this one game.
He knew that it was all going going to come down to this one game he probably had a shitload of money on this game yeah two years ago yes um i found one other uh kyler fackrell who played for the packers who then so he's making less money with the chargers but he would be you throw him out there that a guy who's like hey i, I'm about to play in a week 18 winner go home game. And I live in L.A.
What's his playing time like? But I really wish I was on the Giants and we were playing a meaningless week 18 game and I was living in New Jersey. Okay, I'm going to look up this guy because it seems like that's the only other option here.
Okay. It's just fucking, oh man,.
You look it up. I'm going to flip the page because that's too much about the Bears-Giants even though it was all about Joe Judge, who is something else.
He's something else. All right.
Broncos Chargers. We need a full list.
Someone tweet us a full list of Giants players who are not on the roster anymore. Maybe even the entire Joe Judge someone tweet us a full list of giants players who are who are not on the roster anymore maybe even the entire joe judge tweet us find us a list of guys who played for joe judge on the giants no but it was last year yeah but he specifically said it could be anywhere it could let's widen the net here guys who are making more money somewhere else who would call up joe judge and be like i really hate the fact that i'm making more money for a team that's better than your team.
I'd rather be running around doing laps in December and full contact drills. Memes texted me a list.
Dalvin Tomlinson, Wayne Gallman, signed with the Vikings, Zavante Freeman, Kevin Zeitler, Ravens. Okay.
I could see it being Wayne Gallman. Wayne Gallman? Yeah, because he has to, like we said, to bring a full circle.
Kirk Cousins. He has to sit around Kirk Cousins all the time.
So he's probably like, this fucking sucks. At least Daniel Jones would go play flip cup with me in Hoboken.
Like, Kirk Cousins is not going to do that. Okay.
We got the afternoon slate. We'll whip through a couple of these.
Broncos, Chargers. Drew Locke wasn't terrible.

The Chargers are back into, again, a win and get in game against the Raiders.

And I don't know what the hell the Broncos are going to do with Vic Fangio.

That's kind of been a year-long thing, though.

Unless the Broncos make the playoffs, Fangio's... It's pretty obvious that he's been in over his head for a while

in terms of being a full head coach. Yep.
You can judge a guy pretty accurately based on their first season just to see if they, not talking about the talent or the wins and losses, but just to see if they get the small stuff, like the challenges are a big one. To me, Vic Fangio is a very difficult case how to judge it because you could make the argument that he's not succeeded as a head coach.
They haven't been in the playoffs. But I think if you're Vic Fangio or a Vic Fangio defender, you'd be like, but that's not my fucking fault because John Elway can't get a quarterback.
Like, did Broncos have just been a quarterback away from being a good team every single year? I know that. I'm just saying that you can get the vibe of whether or not somebody is equipped to handle all the other stuff like in-game management.
That's what I'm saying Fangio has never been great at. I still think he's okay.
It's just they don't have a quarterback. I mean, Drew Locke wasn't terrible, but they've not had a real quarterback for his entire time there.
I think one of the biggest indictments that you can say is the way that Brandon Staley coached this game is pretty much saying like there are teams that you need touchdowns to beat.

Yes.

And then there are the Broncos.

No,

I,

so Brandon Staley kicking field goals,

which he was right to do.

I,

yeah,

I actually got more respect for Brandon Staley today because he's not like

all the math nerds were saying what happened to Brandon Staley.

No, no, he's smarter than everyone because he knows it's all time and situation. He kicked a field goal on fourth and goal from the one.
He punted on fourth and eight on Denver's 44. He kicked a field goal from fourth and goal on the five because he essentially was like, the Broncos suck.
I'm winning this game no matter what. Two types of teams in the NFL.
One

where you won't beat them with field goals, and then

the Broncos. Right.
The Broncos are

the epitome of the team of, yes,

you can absolutely field goal the Broncos to death.

Yes. No, you can field goal the

Broncos, the Giants.

I would say the

Jaguars, but the Jaguars field goal the

Bills to death. Yeah.

Nine to six. Yeah.
I don't think you want to get in a field goal war with them. You've got to score touchdowns against the Jaguars field goal the Bills to death.
Yeah. Nine to six.
Yeah. So I don't think you want to get in a field goal war with them.
No, you've got to score touchdowns against the Jaguars. You could probably field goal the Bears to death.
I'm trying to think. Anyone else that you can field goal to death? Because I think the Texans are scrappy enough you can't field goal to them to death.
At times, you can field goal the Steelers to death. At times.
Yes. Yes.
No, you absolutely. If you go into Heinz Field, this iteration of Steelers, and you're like, if we can get five field goals from our field goal kicker, you're probably going to win the game.
Yeah, the Jets sometimes. Yeah, depending on the week.
When it's Mr. INT.
Yep, yep. There's a few teams that you can field goal to death.
And when you know you have that, why would you go for it on fourth down yeah no reason none um all right that was that game

49ers Texans same thing uh I don't know what to say about Trey Lance he looked okay at times but then also really not or you can make the stats sing for Trey Lance though just by covering they covered good point just because of his ability to throw the ball deep occasionally without getting it picked off.

And now, just so everyone understands,

I'm not being hypocritical here because I do think that you've got to give rookie quarterbacks time. Trey Lance is in a different situation because there's a chance he has to start a playoff game.
So it's like we're judging him. Can he win a playoff game because he might be thrust into that situation.
I think we can say no. Maybe.
I think he can. I don't know.
Because here, Big Cat, here's why. Kyle Shanahan's system.
Kyle Shanahan's system, it's kind of a motherfucker for a quarterback because you can put most decent quarterbacks or decent prospects into that system and convince yourself like, yeah, this could work.

Like Kyle Shanahan could tailor the system to Trey Lance and I could see that running

game like really stepping up.

Yes.

But then once you get to a point where it doesn't work, then it 100% becomes a quarterback's

fault.

Right.

Where you're like, the system's so good, if they just had one quarterback that could fit

within it, then they could win the Super Bowl every year.

Right.

I was like, wait, there's something that gives and takes at the same time

where it's like maybe the system does have a very low floor.

Right.

But the ceiling is not that high.

Right.

Right.

And who knows?

I'd still like the Niners.

I still love Debo Samuel

Kittle

All those guys

Debo Samuel Sr.

Debo Samuel Sr.

But yeah

Trey Lance

He's not ready yet

What do you got?

Oh we have the announcement

Breaking Moos

Breaking Moos

Saturday

Chiefs at Broncos

Cowboys at Eagles

Sunday night football

Chargers at Raiders

Okay good

Thank you. Saturday, Chiefs at Broncos, Cowboys at Eagles.
Sunday night football, Chargers at Raiders. Okay, good.
Wait, what are the Saturday ones again? Chiefs at Broncos. Okay.
Cowboys at Eagles. I don't know why Chiefs and Broncos.
That feels like that has no... Kind of a throwaway game.
Yeah. That's just Patrick Mahomes will get ratings.
Which makes sense. Maybe the whole division had to be flexed for fairness.
I don't know. Because of the Sunday night game.
No, I think they just probably would like Patrick Mahomes would get ratings. Like at 4 o'clock on a Saturday in January, Patrick Mahomes could be playing a fucking Pop Warner team.
You're like, I'll tune in. Patrick Mahomes in Mile High.
I thought it would be Santa Fran lost 75 yards. Niners-Rams is two playoff teams yeah flex that okay so but you know saturday and sunday you know i'm saying about the niners right it's like kyle shanahan's system is basically any quarterback can be good until they're not and then the quarterback's the problem right right and you always sit there and say imagine if we had this quarterback yes it would be incredible which i do all the time right of sit there and say, imagine if we had this quarterback.
Yes. It would be incredible.
Which I do all the time. Right.
Of course. And when we say, imagine if you had this quarterback, it's actually just Kyle Shanahan dreaming of Kirk Cousins.
Yep. Right.
Okay. By the way, did the Eagles actually clinch a playoff spot? Is this going to be another one where I have all the – was it because the Vikings lost? 49ers and Vikings.
No, it's because the Vikings lost this game. Okay.
All right. That was the last thing that had to happen.
Okay, so I'm not... There's going to be a lot of Eagles fans.
At the time that you said it, you're not wrong. Yeah, when you get to this point of the podcast, you're going to feel like an asshole for tweeting me that you clenched.
It hadn't happened yet. Saints-Panthers.
Who cares? Yep. Moving on.
Sam Darnold looked not like Sam Darnold today. He looked better than Sam Darnold.
There we go. Sam Darnold has now officially become QB1 over Sam Darnold.
Yeah. And the Saints do have a path.
They have to beat Atlanta, and the 49ers have to lose to the Rams. Not crazy.
Not crazy. We did forget to talk about one thing with the Rams.
What? Odell Beckham punching that guy in the butthole. Yeah.
How about that, huh? He likes ass play. He came from a good five yards away, cocked his fist back like an old-timey.
You know when cartoon characters used to – yeah, he bonked them. No, I'm bonking you.
Why? You're getting turned on by this.

I can tell I like it.

I'm not.

He's...

I thought I had a good joke, but I'm not going to say it now.

Not even going to...

I'm going to keep this one to my...

No, say it, say it, say it, say it.

He's Fister I-N-T.

Yeah.

There you go.

Bonk and 1.5 boobs.

The double.

See, that's what I don't like about the bonk is because...

I know you don't like it. It's hilarious.
No, the bonk gets overused because I was talking about a play where, like, legitimately one of the best receivers in the NFL saw a guy make an interception, ran over, and just punched him as hard as he could in the butthole. Right.
I don't think that's a bonk. Okay.
I think Odell should be bonked. Would you say that coming back to it like an hour later might be bonk-related? You've been thinking about that play.
It was funny. Yeah.
It was a very funny play. It tickles your fancy.
It was a very – it's not every day you get to see a guy just like put his fist in another guy's asshole. I just like – we can say bonk any time and you're like, it's not a bonk.
No, I'm just saying that is not a bonk. Right.
It's never a bonk with you. You should be bonked for bonking, for interpreting that as sexual.
Bonk. We'll put up a poll for this.
Play this clip in its entirety and then follow it up with a tweet that says, is PFT being horny or is Big Cat being horny for thinking that PFT is this is the best part about calling you out on a bunk you get so defensive that it's like you must have also been thinking about sex i'll admit when i'm thinking about sex all the time not thinking about sex right now you're just thinking about odell putting his hand up some guy's ass he did it not me i'm not the one that did it it was funny it was funny funny i just love saying bonk to you because we always end up here we're like i'm not the one you guys are i'm the least horny person on this podcast uh i don't want to share the text from pft on january 1st uh it said did you guys see miley cyrus last night yeah i was curious if you guys I'm sorry, because I went to bed to bed early. Never horny.
Because I had coronavirus. Never horny.
It's impossible to be horny with COVID. I will say PFT tweeted, I think, a clip of Miley Cyrus' performance.
I did. And was just jokingly like, this was a great performance.
And the Miley stans didn't see the irony in it. And were just like, yes.
Oh, my God. Yes.
So true. It was awesome to be able to tweet something just positive and pure about Miley Cyrus.
That's beautiful. And I turned off the replies to it.
So only Miley stands for like quote tweeting. Oh, that's what it was.
Because they search her name. I didn't want that clip to be defiled by people thinking I was just looking at her nipple.
Yeah, when you have to turn off replies, you're not horny.

You're pre-bonking. You're getting out of the way of bombs.
It was the best. Turning off replies to any

Miley Cyrus tweet is now the way I'm going to go. The horniest

non-horny man ever.

Alright, you got a sex

addiction. You're thinking about sex.
You're thinking

about sex right now. You got a

sex addiction. You're addicted to sex.
We've established that

you talk about sex more than I do.

Hank said it last time. Okay.
You do. You do.
He did not. He did not say it.
He did not. Everyone's laughing right now.
I'll start keeping a track now. Keep a track.
2022. Sex jokes, no.
They're not even close. We'll revisit it.
We'll do a mid-year review in July. There's a clip that came out.
I look forward to that review. I'll make a note.
Here's what I don't want to do. I don't want to censor myself on this podcast.
It's going to be tough. You're going to have to.
Because I'm like, oh, well, Big Cat's going to think that this is a sex joke. They usually are.
Odell Beckham punching another guy in the butthole is not sex. No, but coming back to it an hour later being like, oh, I forgot.
Odell put his hand in some guy's asshole. I mean, should we not talk about that? Yeah, we should have talked about it then.
That's usually something that we would bring up. Yeah, it's true.
All right. Let's go.
Let's get back on track. Seahawks, Lions.
We'll wrap up here. Again, I don't really.
This game. Good job, Russ.
Yeah. Last game in Seattle.
Good job. I'm going to count this as a win for Tim Boyle.
This is as close as Tim Boyle's going to get to a win. It was a shootout.
Tim Boyle was involved in a shootout. You didn't lose because of Tim Boyle.
Well, actually, no, he threw a few interceptions. Yeah, but he was involved in a shootout.
That's cool. He was involved in a shootout.
Because you do need both teams to score to have a shootout. Yeah, they lit the score right you need two teams to do that absolutely uh i did find i found a good quote about dan campbell this is from a couple years ago but i'd never seen it before but i like it it's from teddy bridgewater teddy said uh whenever he stood in front of the team and talked you're ready to just storm out of that meeting and punch a guy in the face for no reason okay there's no higher compliment than you can pay.
Yes, you just want to go fight people. You just want to get into a fight.
You want to fight people. The only other, I had Amon Ross St.
Brown watch, which we've been talking about. He's just a bona fide superstar in the making because the last five weeks he's had 43 catches, 451 yards, and five touchdowns.
That's a full season in the last five weeks. Yep.
So there you go, Lions fans. And Seahawks, you – like Russ is now doing – Russell Wilson bothers me.
I don't know. He's now saying, like, I hope this isn't the last game in Seattle.
You are the one who gets to decide that. And also – Like, you – it's in your hands.
He's the one whose agent leaked the, like, I don't want to be traded, but if I did want to be traded, here are the five teams I would go to. And went on Jimmy Fallon and had him ask about, like, I just can't stand when players...
If you want to be traded, just say you want to be traded. Don't have someone else say you want to be traded and then say, I love it here.
I hope this isn't my last time here. You get to decide that.
The Seattle Seahawks will never trade Russell Wilson unless Russell Wilson says he wants to be traded. That's just a fact.
So don't pretend that you're like, oh, man, aw, shucks, I hope this isn't the last time. You decide your own destiny here, Russ.
Yep, I had one other note, and that's that Dan Campbell, come hell or high water, he was going to throw a touchdown pass to an offensive lineman this week. Yep.
He had multiple guys running routes from the tackle-eligible position. And also, people are really mad at Dan Campbell.
Fantasy owners are very mad at him because during the week, Dan Campbell kept saying, I'm going to cut DeAndre Swift loose. You're going to see DeAndre Swift really cook this week.

And then at the goal line, he's just trying to throw passes to his offensive lineman to get them touchdowns.

Matthew Barry's got to be furious.

Matthew Barry's putting him on the shit list.

Who was the other guy that Matthew Barry will never forgive?

Oh, fuck.

There was some player that lied about whether or not he was going to play.

No, yeah. It was on the Cardinals, wasn't it? He tweeted something, and Matthew Berry was like, you think this is a fucking game? Well, yes.
Yes, exactly what it is. Was it James Conner? It might have been.
No, I don't think so. He was out, and then, yeah, he got very, very upset at someone.
I do remember this. We've got to find that.
Was it David Johnson? It might have been. like did he tweet that he was going to be out and then he played or he tweeted that he was going to play then he was out.
Yeah. It's like you're playing with people's lives here.
That's very funny. That's very funny.
I encourage more to that all the time in week 17. Yes.
Especially week 17. Yes.
Throw some chaos into it. Okay, last game.

Find that for us.

I think it was David Johnson in 2019.

What did he do?

It was.

Matthew Barry rants at Cardinals Twitter for trolling fantasy managers.

So that clip looks like he woke up the next day and still was upset.

Oh, no.

Yeah, it was a big thing for Matthew Barry.

The caption of the video, Matthew Barry calls out the Arizona Cardinals Twitter handle for saying fantasy managers should have started running back Chase Edmonds in week seven against the Giants. Oh, man.
That's great. I think Matthew Barry took David Johnson off his big board for the rest of his life.
He's like, I will never draft David Johnson again in fantasy because of what he did to me. I know we joke about fantasy like no one cares about your fantasy team.
Look, I play fantasy, and I know people take it very seriously.

The thing that bothers me with fantasy every year is like the championship

and the playoffs are just complete flukes.

It's like whoever has one game where it's just crazy and he goes off,

and that's it.

If you had Jamar Chase this week.

If you drafted Jamar Chase, probably at the time when Jamar Chase was like,

I don't know if I'll ever be able to catch a football because the stripes are different. That's when you drafted him.
Yeah. Think back four or five months ago.
And then now you're winning thousands of dollars because of what a great season he had. And more specifically, what an incredible week this week he had.
Right. It's all luck.
Yeah. It's just your players end up playing in random spots.
Obviously, there are some people that are really good at it, but it's it's all luck it's it's yeah it's just your players end up playing like in random spot obviously there are some people that are really good at it but it's just you you lose one or two times in your fantasy career where it's like oh fuck this this guy was awesome all year and then one week he decided to suck and it just completely kills it for you what do you got what does he say read it the video to his rant you want me to lie at az cardinals about david johnson's health for competitive reasons fine but when i believe your line start dj and bench edmonds you want to troll me for that ahem i have some thoughts ahem he did the throat clearing holy shit the arizona twitter cardinals account like i've been in the news recently well i fears i didn't know that i i'm fan of theirs now fully. Wow.
Wow. I think more people should start typing the word ahem.
Ahem. Before they drop a nuclear take.
Ahem. Let me get on my soapbox.
Ahem. All right.
Last game. Cardinals Cowboys.
I made the biggest future bet I've ever made in my life at like noon today on the Cowboys to win the Super Bowl at 10-1. They lose this game.
They lose chance at the number two seed. Also, Michael Gallup tore his ACL.
I'm the biggest mush alive. And I've experienced watching it with a very rooted interest in the Cowboys, and they suck.
They suck. They don't suck.
They don't suck. I'm going to talk you off the ledge a little bit.
The Cowboys are very good. They're not a fluke.
Their defense is good. This game, I'm going to chalk this one up to Kyler Murray Magic in Texas Stadium.
He's 9-0. Is he 9-0 now? 9-0.
In AT&T Stadium? He played there in high school. Five times in high school.
Yeah. He's 2-0 in the pros and I think there's three other games or whatever.
Yeah, two other games. I think at Texas A&M and another game.
Yeah, I feel like Oklahoma plays one of those games every couple years where it's like the season opener in Jerry World. Right.
But, yeah, Kyler Murray just owns that building. Yes.
It is. I don't think he's ever lost in the state of Texas, by the way.
He never lost in high school. He never lost in high school.
I'm almost positive he's never lost a competitive football game in the state of Texas. He won every Red River? Well, yeah.
Because that's in Dallas. Yeah, but he didn't see.
Remember, he wasn't at Oklahoma his whole four years. Right, but every one that he played in.
I believe so. Find it for us.
Yes. And right now, I'm seeing 49-3 since high school.
Since high school in the state of Texas? Yeah. When are those three losses? Shit.
All right, it would have been cooler if he had never lost in the state of Texas. Right now, it looks like there's a good chance that they will be playing at AT&T Stadium in the opening round of the playoffs, too.
Yes. That's an issue.
All right, so 2017 and 18.

No, yeah, see, he only played one real full year at Oklahoma.

So, and I'm pretty sure they won Red River that year.

Get on that, Jake.

That's a big, if he's never lost in the state of Texas,

I might have totally made that up, but that would be fucking cool.

How cool would that be?

Did Jake just say he lost three times?

Yeah, but he said that was the first thing he saw.

Yeah, I'll look for a better source.

What was the source?

Some guy with, like, 30 followers.

Give a shout-out his name.

This guy's a Schittsburg Steelers guy.

I put you on the spot.

I'm sorry, Jake. The Evening Fire.
The Evening Fire. I put you on the spot.
I'm sorry.

The Evening Fire.

Evening Fire.

Sounds kind of like a... Oh.

Actually bleep out their podcast.

Yeah, fuck that.

Well, 49-3 before this game.

Come and take their shit.

50-3 now.

Okay, so I might have made up that...

It sounds cool to say he's never lost a game in the state of Texas.

Let's just roll with that.

Yeah.

I don't know.

Gallup kind of concerns me because he's fucking good. Yeah, Cedric Wilson is not bad.
The touchdown catch that he had where he tore his ACL on the catch, knowing that he tore the ACL in the process of stepping off that leg, I think it was his left leg that he pushed off of, did like a 180 in the air, held on to the ball in the end zone while his ACL was torn.

Yep.

Respect.

Yes.

That's all Madden shit.

That is all Madden shit.

Yeah, that was a crazy catch.

I just don't – I don't know.

The Cowboys watching them, they concerned me.

And that was a stupid bet.

And it was stupid right away, but whatever.

The game could have been different,

but we all know that the biggest obstacle to you winning this future bet is probably going to be mike mccarthy yeah he's the weak his arteries are his weak link he's the weak link to his team right now because the defense is awesome the offense when they have their shit together is definitely good enough to win every game they play in with that defense but then you have to trust mike mccarthy don't anything stupid. And he kind of did something stupid in this game, which is he ran out of timeouts, was not able to challenge Chase Edmonds.
Which was a fumble. Which we think was a fumble.
I think it was definitely a fumble. And so the game turns around at that point.
The Cowboys have a chance to win. Wasn't that under two minutes, though? No, it was right before the two-minute warning.
It was right before. Kyler Murray did actually lose to Texas in his one Red River.
So there's one loss. We found one.
Either way it was cool when I said that he'd never lost in the state of Texas. We should just go with that.
That sounds fucking cool. The fact he never lost in high school is insane.
Yeah. And he's 9-0 in that building.
That is confirmed. Confirmed fact.
But yeah, you're right. That timeout, like losing that timeout, that was...
And like losing that time out that was and it was i don't know if they i don't know if the um cardinals did it on purpose but the reason why he used the timeout was there was a fourth in like i don't know five uh or fourth and goal on the five and they brought out prater and prater and ky Kyler Murray were on the field at the same time,

and then they put Prater out wide.

So the Cowboys were confused whether they were going to go for it or kick a field goal,

then they burned a timeout.

I don't know if that was intentional.

I don't know either, but I get the vibe that when Mike McCarthy is coaching football,

a lot of the times he's enjoying watching football from the sidelines.

So he just kind of gets lost in the game. I would be in that same position too.
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He zones out. He kind of watches the game.
Yes. No, you're absolutely right.
Yeah, it's a I lost that bet. It was stupid.
I got swept up in the moment. I've been thinking about, can I find a way the Packers aren't going to win the Super Bowl.
Oh, the Cowboys I think are undervalued and really good. No, they're not.
They suck. Their offense is – to be fair, I have to be exactly fair about the Cowboys as I am about the Rams and the Colts.
Can the Cowboys put together four games in a row

offensively

that can win a Super Bowl? No. They can't.

Because they haven't.

So they can't. So I'm an idiot.

So right now it would be looking

like they'd go to Lambeau

in the second round. Great.

Just get it over with. Lose that

game and I'll just be drowning in

sorrow. Great.

Awesome. Fucking Cowboys.

I do like them better than the Rams though.

Thank you. Get it over with.
Lose that game and I'll just be drowning in sorrow. Great.

Aw.

Fucking.

I do like them better than the Rams, though.

Yeah.

And it's not.

And people say it's recency bias with the Washington football team game.

I was talking about this bet before that.

I've been talking about this bet for like three weeks.

I'm an idiot.

I timed it.

So it already went from 10 to 1 to 12 to 1.

So I'm really an idiot. Way to go.
I might hop on it now. Yeah, hop on it with me.
Fucking stupid. Stupid.
Cardinals, though, that was a big-time win. Cliff Kingsbury called a perfect last drive to salt the game away.
Kyler Murray made some big-time throws. Like, that's the card...
As bad as the Cardinals have looked the last few weeks, that's the team where you're like okay they could beat anyone they you know and they still don't have deandre hopkins it's helpful when they have aj green making big catches down the field yeah he was so a credit to the cardinals like they deserve absolute big time credit felt like they were sinking ship that's a huge win they can still win the afc or the nfc west uh if they win and the Rams lose. So that's like, I mean, that would obviously change a lot of the picture because then the Cardinals would get home field for the first round.
They stink at home, though. That is true.
That's the issue. Yes, that is true.
Okay. Kyler Murray's never won in the state of Arizona.
That's true. He's never won in the state.
He's over in the state of Arizona.

Yeah, if he goes, if the Cardinals go back to the AT&T,

I'm just going to burn that money.

I guess just burning it because he's going to win again.

He'll go 10-0 in that building.

Something about, I do believe in that shit.

Like he's just something about being in that building.

He's just going to dominate.

Okay, let's do Football Guy of the Week and then we'll wrap up with Who's Back of the Week. Maybe talk a little college.
I know Hank has college football on his Who's Back. Billy.
Billy, how sickened are you by opt-outs? I mean, I'm sorry. Actually, save that.
Sorry. Hank has it for his Who's Back.
I want to hear your take on that. Congratulations to both Greg Kittle and Olsen for winning Football Guy of the Week for week 16 you know just guys being dudes on the sideline nothing better than that so now for our week 17 nominees number one michael freeman marcus freeman i love how they just won football guys of the week just for roughhousing yeah yeah that's as simple as it can do each other the vote says what the vote says.
Okay. Marcus Freeman.
Michael Freeman, Marcus Freeman's father. Got it.
He didn't show up to his Fiesta Bowl as he was the head coach of Notre Dame because growing up he taught him that he's no better than anybody else no matter how successful he gets. So he wasn't going to show up to his game and just sit on his couch because that's what he always did and why should he treat this game as special that's a football guy kind of move i love it didn't show up i feel like it's kind of like marcus freeman in the second half exactly in a lot of sports movies there's always that one moment where the main character looks at the stands to see if his dad's there yeah his dad's not but it just makes him continue to work harder right so that's what mr freeman is doing is doing to Mr.
Freeman. Right.
Exactly. Second nominee, Jalen Warren, running back for Oklahoma State.
This story comes from after the Big 12 championship game. He was so frustrated that he couldn't play and help the team, so that he walked from the Stillwater Airport back to his dorm on a bad ankle after the team arrived home.
He walked 3.2 miles from the airport to his dorm on a bad ankle because he was so frustrated he couldn't help his team and just decided to go totally out of the way so he can't help his team even more because yeah it's like when we were in chicago and pft had a broken foot and he walked on it and it like turned blue yeah it was bad it's really bad i've never been the same since it was really bad i used to be able to dunk all his teammates circled back to offer him a ride, and he refused all of them. Yeah, it seems more dumb.
Yeah. I could see you trying to make the walk back, and then maybe by the time your second teammate drives past you, you're like, yeah, you know what? I've proved my point.
I was going to walk. Also, it concerns me that it sounds like he leaked the story of I wanted to walk home from the airport.
Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. There's no sadder walk, I think, than walking home from the airport.
No. No.
Might as well just be like a hobo with a stick with a rag tied to the end of it. It's bad.
A lot of mental toughness, though. Yeah.
Number three, Rob Gronkowski, tight end for the Buccaneers. So he had a great line when asked about the Antonio Brown situation.

He just said, I don't know what happened.

I was too busy smashing helmets with 300-pound linemen.

Nice.

That's the only input you'd think.

I actually think he's being honest.

I think he probably, when he gets on the plane, he's like, where's AB?

That's just, it's a good answer for any football player to have

when asked about anything that you don't want to answer.

Yes. I don't know.
I was busy smashing my helmet against a 300-pound lineman. Yes.
Boom. Easy.
He's got CTE, according to doctors on Twitter. Last nominee, Joe Burrow, quarterback for Cincinnati Bengals.
Joe Burrow played a lot of the game without his name played on his back because he plays for the team on the front, not for the one on the back. Slash was ripped off.
Exactly. It had Frank the Tank in a fucking blender every time they showed him.
He's like, where the hell is his nameplate? I was like, I don't know. If he's the only guy that doesn't have one, then you know who he is.
Yes. Kind of looked a lot like the Bobby Boucher jersey.
Okay, those references. And now for the old school football guy of the week, you know, with John Madden passing, one of the ultimate football guys, I just have a story about when John Madden, there was a Patriots player when he was coaching for the Raiders who cracked his vertebrae, and the Patriots were flying home, and this player had to stay.
John Madden stayed with this player in the hospital when all of his team and coaches had flown back east and saved his life once when he was choking because his tube had slipped out of his wait what john madden was in the hospital saw the guy choking wait where was john madden coaching john madden is my mic working he was coaching the raiders the guy got injured in the game and basically like he got sent to the hospital. Raiders player or Patriots player? Patriots player.
The Patriots are getting on the bus, and John Madden basically went to the plane, got on the plane, and was like, you need to keep someone here to watch this player. Made a PR person stay around, and then John Madden basically went to the hospital, stayed at the hospital with him.
He was going to visit him at the hospital,

and the hose that was going in his neck or whatever slipped.

It was basically suffocating him.

John Madden noticed it, was like, hey, hey, grab the nurse.

If John Madden wasn't there, the guy probably would have died,

and then continued his friendship with him over the years and stayed very close with him.

Okay.

Thanks, Hank.

Yeah.

You're welcome.

Sorry.

I saw Big Cat was kind of- I was confused. Yeah, I was confused.
I'm just going to read the passage. No, read the passage.
No, Hank did a great job. Read the passage.
That was basically... Yeah.
Go ahead. That's a great story.
I'd never heard that story. I got confused.
I'm sorry. No, no.
Hank did a great job. Yeah.
How do you feel if you're the Patriots coach at that point? Like another man saved your player's life. Yeah, you got cucked.
Yeah. Yeah.
John Madden, I mean, legend forever. Was there anything else? That was our football history.
Are you mad that I got confused? No, no, no. You threw the windpipe thing in late.
I was like, what's going on now? That was a great job, Billy. Yeah.
Thanks, Hank. Yeah, thanks, Hank.
Thanks for the save, Hank the save, Hank Great football guys, go vote now on the blog Correct? Hank just maddened your throwback football guy I know, he really stayed in the hospital on that one He saved it He saw you choking and he fucking got you Got it out of your mouth Alright, should we do who's back of the week? Yep. Wrap it up.
I mean, the college football playoffs were – we'll talk some bowl season. I think we have Kirk Herbstreet on on Wednesday.
But, yeah, the semifinal. We need to expand the playoffs.
Not just – like, it's going to end up the same way, but at least we'll have some fun games beforehand. I wish there was a third-place game.
I would like to see Michigan-Cincinnati play. Yeah, that would be fun.
That's true. Well, that would kind of lead me to my Who's Back of the Week PFT because if we had a third-place game, all the players would probably opt out.
My Who's Back of the Week is debates over players playing or not playing in bowl games. Big Cat alluded to Kirk Herbstreet on the pregame before the playoff.
He basically, or no, before the Matt Corral Ole Miss game, he was saying that players should play and saying all this stuff. People were very mad at him for basically saying that players should be playing in bowl games regardless of their draft status or whatever.
They should be playing for the team and not worrying about their future and millions of dollars being up in the air if they happen to get injured, which Matt Corral got injured in a meaningless game. So that kind of put fuel on the fire of the debate.
I don't think that Matt Corral is going to miss out on any money, though. Now, it's not to say that it could never happen because it has happened before.
Like Jalen Smith, when he was playing in the bowl game, had the devastating knee injury. It cost him a shitload of money and a lot of draft position.
we don't know what's going to happen with matt corral in fact i would say that there's probably a pretty good likelihood that there are a ton of nfl gms who would probably bump somebody up in their draft stock if they're like oh this guy wanted to play in the bowl game that's just how like a lot of nfl gms think like this guy's here for steam but i think it's probably we probably have a similar opinion on this but if any player in college football decides at any time like i'd rather not risk injury and then enter the draft it could be for a bowl game it could be in the middle of the year it could be whenever if he's like you know what i'd rather play in the nfl that's kind of the game that's kind of you're not getting paid at this level. You want to get paid? I like it when players stick around and play, personally.
As a fan, I think it's cool. But I don't think that my opinion on whether or not I like it should enter their calculation of whether or not they want to hold out for the next level.
Yeah, no, it's very weird that it becomes like this raging debate when it's like these guys have, they should get to do whatever they want to do. It's their personal choice.
And the part that bothers me is more when someone does get hurt, everyone's like, oh, he shouldn't have played. No, fuck that.
If a guy wants to play, if a guy, if it means something to him to play one last game with his teammates, whether it's a meaningful game or not, he

should get to do that.

Like, that's his choice.

Just like it's a choice.

I also think when you have, like, opt-outs, the Rose Bowl was fucking incredible.

Do you know why it was incredible?

Because can you give me the pronunciation on the Ohio State receiver's name?

I don't want to mess it up.

I believe it's Smith and Jingba.

Was insane.

Do you know how many, like, he was good all year, but Chris Olave not playing. Let him step up into a bigger role like it.
Also, when you have opt outs, you get guys that are underclassmen that have a chance to shine in big time moments. So I just it's always it's bizarre to me.
I also think that there's so many people who judge these kids. And actually, I don't think there's that many people who have the opinion that kids shouldn't opt out anymore.
I really think I don't think so. It's starting to like player movement and player independence in all sports has completely shifted where I think most people take sides of players, not owners anymore.
So it's very like it's one of those Twitter arguments that it feels like everyone just yelling at at three people like Danny Cannell and I don't know who else. Herbie and Desmond Howard.
Yeah, who are we arguing with? But at the end of the day, guys should get to decide what they want to decide, what's best for them. People think it's ESPN because they're the ones that are not benefiting from the best players playing for promotion.
And we should talk to Herbie about that because that is a fair criticism. I think that does have something to do with it because they want to be able to sell all their bowl games.
Right. And it's way easier.
I'd watch anyway. Yeah, a lot of people would watch anyway, but they definitely have a significant financial interest in the best players and the players that you know playing in these big games.
I think people would watch. There's so many fans of college football that don't even know the big-time players.
You know your team's big-time players. but I think people would watch, like, there's so many fans of college football that don't even know the big-time players.

Like, you know your team's big-time players, but I think that's part of why college football is great is you watch the jerseys.

You know what I mean?

Like, Notre Dame's playing in a game.

Did people who watch, that game was probably watched by millions and millions of people.

There was probably millions and millions of people that didn't realize that Notre Dame didn't have their two best players in the game. Like, I just think that people watch for the jerseys and the tradition and all that.
So it doesn't really change that much when a guy wants to opt out to secure their financial future. And yeah, I mean, people watch bowl games.
I love the argument of like, there's too many bowls. Do you know why there's too many bowls? You know why there's quote unquote too many bowls? First of all, I do not think there are too many bowls.
I think there's too few. The reason why there's so many bowls is because everyone watches them.
Bowl games, the pinstripe bowl gets more people watching it than the premier Thursday night NBA basketball game. Would you rather watch football or would you rather not watch football? Right.
It's just like the reason why there are so many bowls is people watch them. We should come up with bowl game matchups for the NFL.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
After this week? Yeah, after the last week. And invite them, yes.
And then invite all the teams and see who really loves football. Yes.
Billy. If the bowls want those players who'd sit out to play in the games, they should pay those players.
I agree. Yeah.
That's actually a great idea. I think that that for the most part college football fans in this circumstance exist in a pretty rational place of we want we want to see our players playing if they want to play if they don't we'll be disappointed but we're not going to be like fuck that guy he has no heart you know like most people understand the millions of dollars that could be at stake now and they would prefer to see their favorite players play, but they don't have any severe animosity against a guy for not doing it.
The last thing I'll say about it is, and I do think that we all freak out about injuries to a point that's just, like, insane given where we are with, like, science and rehab and all this stuff. I always point out, Alex Smith played football again.
Alex Smith,

his leg fell off.

He played football again.

It's not like it's 1960

when you tear your ACL

and your career's over.

But if Alex Smith had that happen to him,

he probably wouldn't have played football again.

What?

If it happened to him in college.

Like, he was not,

when he came back.

Well, I think that was also age.

The reason why he came back at the end was to prove that he could do it and the team gave him a chance to do it because they're like, yes, thank you for what you've done for us. But I think that was age, too.
He wasn't like an NFL quarterback. Yeah, but he was 36, 37.
He was at the end of his career regardless. I think if that had happened when he was 20, he still would have tried to play football.
Now, obviously, that's a one in a million injury that would have cost him a lot of money I'm just saying like guys recover from ACLs guys recover from injuries so much differently than they did 20 years ago 30 years ago you know what I mean it turns out that he's got Corral has a sprained ankle right it's a high ankle sprain so he's going to be fine right it's not going to affect his draft stock People were talking about millions of dollars. There were a lot of people that were rushing to be like, see, this is a nightmare.
This is why. And I hate that.
And I understand that some people want to be protective of the players, but I feel like a lot of people also just want to be protective of their own takes. Correct.
And kind of be like, see, this is why I was right. Right.
Not, see, I'm so heartbroken for this kid. And how many players play and they don't have any injuries.
Like, you can't do that. That's the part that drives me nuts is don't judge a kid because he wants to play just like don't judge a kid because he wants to opt out.
They're the same situation. It's a give and take for sure.
But you know what I'm saying? Like, you know that Dave Gettleman would look at a player that chooses to play in a quote-unquote meaningless bowl game and put like an extra plus next to his name. Yeah.
And these guys actually do work in front offices across the NFL where you could make yourself more money by playing in a bowl game. Listen, like Micah Parsons opted out last year.
He's going to be rookie of the year, defensive rookie of the year, maybe even defensive player of the year, like in the running. There definitely were questions going into the draft of does he love football? Obviously, he loves football.
We've watched some of the stuff when he gets mad that he gets pulled out of games. People get mad that scouts do their jobs.
That's the other part of this whole entire debate. They get mad that a scout would say, oh, does this kid love football because he opted out? They uncover everything about all...
You're making an insane investment in a player. You want to know that they love football.
You can opt out and still love football. I'm just saying there will be people who will ask it.
Here's what's crazy is, dirty little secret, you can not love football and still be really good at it.

Correct.

And still make a shitload of money and still win a Super Bowl.

Correct.

Even if you don't love football.

Now, it's better probably in the eyes of almost every scout if you do.

It's probably a higher hit rate of draft picks that love football

that pan out versus draft picks that don't love football.

But it's crazy.

The last element of it is people get offended that, like,

a scout would say, oh, I'd prefer my guys to not opt out.

That doesn't mean that they should still do their personal choice.

That's part of the personal choice.

It is.

It is, yeah.

All of it.

No, if you want to come back and play, that's great.

Good for you.

If you don't, that's good for you, too.

Yeah, don't shame him either way.

That's my point.

Okay, good who's back, Hank.

PFT, you're who's back.

My who's back of the week is the low man trophy.

Yes.

So tonight, it's Monday.

Tonight at halftime of the Steelers-Browns game,

Big Ben's home swan song,

we're going to be awarding the low man trophy

to the nation's top collegiate fullback. The ballots in they have been counted i know who won big cat knows who won yes uh we've got an illustrious panel this year added some big names to it so we're going to be putting out a video at halftime of monday night football uh awarding the award the most prestigious award in college football it's a tire with with a Chevy decal nailed to it.
The grittiest trophy in sports. So all the fullbacks.
Actually, there was like a 12-hour span where every game had a nominee for the Loman award in it, and they all scored. Like back to back to back to back.
It was crazy. It was a big day for fullbacks.
I think that was Thursday. I don't know.
I was dealing with issues. You would have loved the Wisconsin-Arizona State game because in the second half.
Oh, I watched it. You watched the game? Oh, yeah.
One in the morning? Oh, yeah. I was up.
Wisconsin's exotic offense was running outside of the guards. That was when they were like, watch this play.
We're going to open up the playbook. Noah's great between the fullback offense that they were using and also he's only 17, guys.
Yes, Braylon Allen. He's a beast.
He's such a beast. I love him.
All right, my who's back is the Bulls, DeMar DeRozan, back-to-back buzzer beaters. That was insane.
That's it. First time ever.
First time ever. In back-to-back nights.
Larry Bird did it in back-to-back games, but there was a night off in between. And he never had one in his career, which is crazy.
Are they the one seed overall? I actually think they're very, very good, and they could compete with anyone in the East. The Warriors are a whole different situation.
You think the Bulls compete with the Nets? Yes. Are theets are, like, are the Nets going to be healthy all the way through? Is Kyrie Irving going to keep his head on all the way through? I don't know.
Like, there's, the Nets, the Nets do not scare me. I mean, they do, but they don't, because they can always find a way to Nets it up.
The fact that Warriors get Klay back, too, is crazy. crazy.
That's best free agent acquisition of the year.

Billy. My huge back of the week is feel-good stories.
This one comes from the NHL. Vancouver Canucks assistant equipment manager had a fan point out a mole on his neck through the glass behind the bench.
and turns out that the fan was a nurse and knew that the Vancouver Canucks assistant equipment manager had a cancerous mole on his neck through the glass behind the bench and turns out that the fan was a

nurse and knew that the Vancouver Canucks assistant equipment manager had a cancerous mole on

his neck.

Whoa.

So it's like the John Madden of hockey.

Exactly.

It's crazy.

Just was put her cell phone up to the glass saying, you need to get that mole checked

out on his neck.

He got checked out.

Whoa.

Saved the guy's life.

That's a crazy story.

That's great.

Wait, when was this?

It's like a day ago or something. That's crazy.
It happened a few story. That's great.
Wait, when was this? It's like a day ago or something?

That's crazy.

It happened a few years.

Sorry, again, Billy.

Oh, no.

It happened a few years ago.

He got checked out, got it all treated,

and then I think either they were back where she was,

and they get a little ceremony or honored her,

thanked her for-

Well, hey, it's new to me, and I'm glad that it was-

Well, no, the ceremony and the whatever, that was new. Yeah, but the whole story's new to me.
And I'm glad that it was. Well, no, the ceremony and the whatever.
But the whole story is new to me. This is the first I'm hearing of it.
Because this could have been just a fan chirping somebody, being like, hey, you got a nasty mole on your neck. That's a pretty good chirp if you're a hockey fan at a game.
But it turns out the person was doing it for an actual medical reason. Saves his life.
Good for you. Damn, That's crazy.
And they gave her a $10,000 scholarship to med school. Whoa.
Wait, but she was already... Oh, she was a nurse.
I don't know. That's what Cam just told me.
Oh, okay. Damn.
It's good who's back, Billy. Thanks.
Jake? Jackson Smith in Jigba is the correct pronunciation. There we go.

He was so fucking good.

That was a video game.

Yeah, it was sick.

I actually have also been thinking Nick Saban is essentially like... Is Nick Saban ever going to get bored?

When you play video games and you win too much,

and you're like, I want to lose a couple games here.

No, because he's a sociopath.

Yeah. So he has to keep winning.
It's crazy. He'll be bored when he's dead.
Yeah. I hate to say it.
My who's back is nose spray. Oh, you dick did? I was in Florida.
Oh, no. Very stuffy, seasonal.
You didn't sit next to a dog. Environment.
Oh, no. I was very stuffy.
I just had to do it. It felt great, but I'm not going to continue to do it.
But you just said you've been doing it. I did it once.
Just once? Yes, just once. By yourself? This is how it starts.
This is how you fall back. Are you spraying alone? God damn it, Jake.
Just spraying alone. God damn it.
I'm worried about you. It's back, but hopefully not for a while.
Damn. We'll see.
All right. Anything else? You know that center, Garrett Bradbury, caught the tip pass?

No.

On the Vikings?

Okay.

I think it happened while we were recording.

Yeah.

Played tight end in college.

Oh, okay.

Because everyone was like, he's an offensive guard.

He must have been thinking of that for a while.

And then he's like, no, he's actually a pretty good tight end.

Yeah.

You don't really see that happen too much, do you?

No.

Oh, look, they got the – Steve Kornacki the the um at this hour like it's a fucking election uh okay so some votes are gonna come in overnight the Steelers have five percent chance damn that sucks for them oh yeah big kid I believe by the way the Jaguars have not locked up oh number one they're a half game behind the Lions so I think if the Jaguars win and the Lions lose. Oh.
Because they're 2-14 and 2-13-1. You know what? I hope the Lions get the second pick.
Yeah. That would be nice.
It would be nice. Jaguars fans are going to come after you.
It would be nice to look back at this season. Oh, the Jaguars fans are definitely going to come after me.
Chaps. Or the Lions fans.
Chaps are going to come all over your seat. What about us? The clown faces.
They got the clown faces. That's a little bit of a cell phone.
Yeah. You're making yourself into a clown.
Yeah. Because if you're in Jaguar's Twitter community, you get it.
But everyone else, you look at it and you're like, wait, what? Are you a clown? Mm-hmm. Is that part of it? They're saying Shad Khan's a clown, right?

Yeah, they're saying their owner is a clown.

Yeah, you cell phoned yourself.

Yeah, bad.

Hank, which one did I say there?

That was correct.

I said cell phone there.

No, you said cell phoned.

No, I said cell phone.

Right, cell phoned.

I'm getting a new cell phone.

That's different than what you said. Okay.
Billy, any update on our nutrition stack? Yeah, subs are in. Subs are in.
Subs are in. The only thing that hasn't come in is those weekly pill things that you can put the pills in to organize it for all y'all, but they're coming in soon.
So somebody pointed out to me online, and I noticed that you liked the tweet. They said, Billy clearly doesn't have individualized plans for you guys.
He just gave you guys the exact same supplements, and you tried to talk your way out of it. Is that true, or do you actually have individualized plans? Well, I do have metabolism speeding up stuff for Big Cat for big cat and i have for you more of like muscle building like stuff that will get you going and for hank i sort of when i i don't see hank really putting on muscle but i see him getting more leaner and toner nice soccer body cool exactly like we're gonna turn hank turn Hank into Ronaldo.
Big Cat into Slim Cat.

He's been there before.

Yeah.

And then you into something like I'm aiming for like

kind of liver king,

but we'll see.

Kind of liver king.

Nice.

I don't think you can be

kind of liver king.

I think either you

live the hunter-gatherer lifestyle

or you don't.

Were you shocked

when you saw that video

of me and Dave

playing against Tony Scheffler in his driveway? Yeah. That's probably about 40 pounds, 50 pounds ago.
Yeah. You think there's any chance we could meet at 200 pounds? If I was incentivized, yes.
Yeah. I think I could get up to 200 pounds of muscle.
Yeah. Mostly muscle.
Right now, I'm probably like 163. What are you? I'm 247.
I think we could meet it. First, like, 10 is going to fly off.
What would it take for us to try to meet at 200 by the end of the year? 84-pound difference? I could get to 200 if I was incentivized. Yeah.
But who's going to incentivize us? I don't know. If you know somebody out there that wants to incentivize us.
Bezos, get at us, bro. How about PFT and I split a Billy if we can get to 200, me to 200.
Deal. Damn.
I'll do that. All right.
Wait, before taxes? Fuck it. Either way.
Yeah, all right. We'll do before taxes.
Either way. Either way.
We'll pay taxes on the Billy. Not like he's going to.
Billy. All right.
Billy's going to... Oh, go get a number.
Go get a number. We've all been worried about Billy killing us and taking our job.
I think that it's pretty likely that Billy's going to accidentally kill us. Yeah.
Like, completely unintentionally. Yeah.
No, this is going to be bad for me. 22.
Trevon Diggs is the eagle who owns the air. Mika Parsons is the lion who owns the ground.
I saw that. That was sick.
That's a fact. Yeah, except then they lost the Cardinals.
R.I.P. to Betty White also.
Oh, yeah. Long time stoolie.
She got mad and cursed by People Magazine. She was so close.
It's kind of funny, actually. Why would you ever allow them to run the congratulations on turning 100? 100 that's like I think actually Betty White knowing her

sense of humor. She's like yeah

run it. I'm just gonna fucking die.

86. 86.
Fuck.

Second time.

Alright. See you on Wednesday.
Love you guys.

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