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Welcome to part of my take presented by T tostitos the official chip and dip of the nfl today is friday december 17th and pft has covid so we're on zoom and also the chiefs are all the way back and the chargers suck i have covid technically but it's kind of lame i'm not even really like symptomatic bad. And just in general, I, if you asked me what was wrong with me, I'd just be like, I feel like I do most mornings at like nine o'clock in the morning before I really get it.
I feel like that all day today. I'm happy you said that PFT, because I was actually wondering if you feel like a little bit of a poser because you got COVID like so much later than me and billy when we got it was kind of cool and now everyone's getting it again no everyone in the nfl now it's yeah no now like you you see it the surge is crazy everyone's picking it up it's like uh i don't know we had it so long ago yeah no you guys had it when it was cool right I'm like a boomer.
When I tell people I have COVID now, they're like, okay, boomer, it's chuggy. It's chuggy to get COVID right now.
It's me and everybody else in New York City. The lines are like around the block at the testing sites.
I'm not really feeling that bad. I just kind of feel generally like below average all day today.
A little tired. Like 5'8".
no maybe like five seven i feel like i got shorter that's you know what that's what i'm gonna say i'm gonna come back in like five seven you should have seen me before i had covid i was a lot taller my first clue this is maybe this is maybe the whitest thing i could possibly say my first clue that i had covid was that i put up an unusually low peloton score last night and so I was like yeah something's up it's definitely not the fact that that I'm out of shape and so getting a lot of thoughts and prayers from people which is nice but can I just say that I don't I'm kind of weirded out by the thoughts you can keep your thoughts I'll take the prayers but the thoughts are as big cat would say that's perverted if you're thinking about me

it is true um also maybe save the thoughts and prayers for donald parham who actually had a terrible injury in the first quarter and that was scary and we had a lot of people thrown out the uh as a chargers fan or as a chiefs fan as a fan of the asus as a fan of another team my thoughts to again have to say it a millionth time you don't have to qualify who you root for when you're rooting for someone to not have a serious serious injury you can just be a human and be like i hope this other human being is not severely hurt from this injury yeah it was scary too he had the fencing reflex whereas his arms went out straight and then when they carted him off the field, Joe Buck thought that he was like a little bit chilly in Los Angeles. No, I don't think that's what it was.
It was his arms were like shaking. I think it was delayed onset of the fencing response.
Again, not a doctor. I want to preface it in case you couldn't tell with all the COVID talk at the start.
We're not medical professionals. The thing I thought back to was, do you remember when, when Kevin Everett got injured on that, that kickoff return? Oh, wow.
You're going even worse. Yeah.
No, I'm just saying that the way that they were able to help him and almost save his life is they lowered his body temperature down, which makes him cold. I don't know if that was a internal, like induced hypothermia response that they had with him him or if it was just from the concussion, whatever it was.
I don't know how you go out there as a football player and you play after that. I think it was maybe a seizure.
Either way, this is a terrible start to the show. This is the biggest bummer of a Friday show.
PFT has COVID, and oh, yeah, someone started the game with a horrific injury that we hope he's okay let's talk about the game

well let's get let's get into our positive vibes right now hank's mr positivity let's talk about the game hank because this was an insane game it felt like we i i felt like i watched four different games inside of one game like there were so many ebbs and flows we watched an entire game of both teams being maddeningly like uh incompetent on fourth down and in the red zone then in the fourth quarter with like seven minutes left the whole thing opened up um I don't know where you want to start other than the fact that I actually don't think the Chargers suck I thought they actually acquitted themselves quite well and Mahomes looked bad for the majority of the night until he kind of picked it up at the end of the game but this was obviously very consequential for the afc west and the nf and in the seedings in the afc the chiefs now they really have to fuck up to not win the afc west they would really have to fuck up to not have at least a fighter's chance at that one seed whereas the Chargers are now playing for a wild card game and having to win on the road all the way to get to the Super Bowl we make the joke of like this game is drunk a lot because it gets overused all the time this game was actually blackout so much stuff happened in this game that's how you can tell that that it's a fun game to watch this game had more stuff that happened in it than any other football game I've seen this year it was there there was always something weird going on. It felt like if you took a Seahawks game and condensed it down into like just distilled it, got rid of all the bullshit in between.
And the way that that Brandon Staley was calling kind of led that led to more stuff happening overall, more weird occurrences happening because he was taking all the chances in the first half going for on fourth down. He's addicted.
We know that he's officially like he can't he will never stop going for it on fourth down. He doesn't care what it is.
And it caught up to him a little bit like it worked out for him earlier in the season. I don't know what happened since then.
I'm not sure what the difference is. But at the start of the season, he was making even dumber callers than he was dumber calls than he was making tonight.
But were working out for him so we're like yes this rocks and then now they just they can't convert a fourth down to save their life and you're like this is it's it's it's easy to root for and to cheerlead until it starts sucking right and then once you get hit with it's like um i used to run i use colin coward uh analogy here i used to run yellow lights so that i would make it to mcdonald's breakfast and that's fun to run yellow lights but the second that you get hit by a car then it's not fun anymore okay that is a very good analogy right there so um terrible injuries covid getting hit by t-boned by cars we're doing serious stuff on a friday no offense bubba um no offense bubba so i don't want to get in an entire analytics thing my point that i tweeted out and i stand by it i still i actually was fine with him going for it all the time because that's his that's his mo like he is committed to i'm going to go for it anytime that's advantageous fourth and short and trying to get get the you know a new set of downs and score a touchdown instead of a field goal. I respect the hell out of Brandon Staley having a plan and sticking to it because he doesn't get powered out of moments when it's like, ooh, maybe he could just take the easy way out and just punt this or whatever it may be.
I do think there is a human element that analytics guys on twitter and and in general

just completely ignore when you fail on fourth down over and over and over again and the deflation that it has when you have like these crazy plays these great drives and you come away with absolutely nothing the only one that i had a real issue with was the was the end of the first half i thought that one was stupid because part of going for it on fourth and goal from like the two yard line is if you don't get it you then have you then make the other team snap the ball out of their own end zone and they're totally backed up so you can if you get a stop you have the field position back like that's part of the analytics so him going for it on on fourth and

goal with two seconds left in the first half where he could have kicked a field to go up seven i i think you just kick the field goal go up seven there i really do because you can't you don't get the advantage of backing them up if you don't get it because the half ends and then it became kind of like a spiral where one decision or a domino effect for one decision led to another which led to another because in the second half you had Andy Reid going for it on fourth down inside I forget what yard line they were on it was like the two yard line Mahomes had a terrible pass he was yeah he was off he was injured for three quarters of this game we need a uh we need a different name for the inside the five yard line like Julian Edelman taught us about the red area which is the 20 yard line and then there should be a different name inside the five because that's where all the shit went down tonight billy i'm gonna put you in charge of that actually i feel like your your brain is is good to it's suited to come up with a name for that but if if brandon staley kicked that field goal at the end of the first half andy reed probably would have kicked a field goal on that drive and then the entire rest of the game is probably it's a butterfly effect and um it ended up like the most important points sometimes are the ones that you don't score and that ended up being the difference and why the game ended up going into overtime but at the end of the game patrick mahomes he started to become patrick mahomes he always finds a way to become patrick mahomes and one last thing about the analytics because i i i know that people be like, you can't say that you're pro analytics, but then also like to kick field goals sometimes. But I actually think you can.
I do actually think Brandon Staley is a very, very smart coach ahead of the time in terms of how he's going for it all the time. But sometimes three points has to matter.
It just has to to a team to like going into the locker room, like there has to be a human element to football. It cannot be played just solely on a spreadsheet.
That's my last point. Also, I'll throw out something smart, just kind of a brain buster to think about.
This one's going to maybe hurt people's brains because it hurts my brains to even like think about my thought. I gonna try to get it out coherently here all right

so going forward on fourth down right people used to not do it so when you would do it the defense wasn't always ready it was it was an anomaly right so um you could kind of catch them off guard you could maybe catch them into something different now everyone goes for it on fourth down will going for it on fourth down will the chances of converting it decrease as defenses are used to you going for it on fourth down whoa no that's actually a good point and i'll take it like one step further i think that defenses it used to be such a big moment in any game right it would happen that defenses would get too psyched up for it it would be like their nerves would get elevated you don't want to make a mistake. You're a little bit unsure.
There's a small shred of doubt that creeps into your brain. And now that it happens so much and they get used to it, they get desensitized to those nervous energy nerves that keep firing off in their heads.
And they're playing under control. And they have a plan going into it, as opposed to before.
They didn't have a plan. It's like, oh, my my god i can't believe this maniac is going for it on fourth down and thank you pft because the beauty of this show is that when when sometimes we just lift each other up and help each other get to the final thought because what you just said triggered in my brain when it used to be you would go for it on fourth down maybe once a game maybe that was your best play in your playbook now you go for it on fourth down maybe once a game.
Maybe that was your best play in your playbook. Now you go for it on fourth down four times a game.
It can't be as high of a percentage. It's going to decrease eventually.
I believe this. And again, I am a very stupid person.
I have no ability to crunch numbers. Simple math completely eludes me.
The only math I know how to do is counting by sevens and then figuring out totals in the 130 to 160 range for NCAA basketball and the 200 to 235 range for NBA that's it but I have to believe that eventually fourth down because people are going to go for it more often it changes the dynamics of how the defense responds and the play calling that you can do as an offense. I think that some defensive coaches are like, they're putting the verbiage into the playbook.
Like, you know what? They don't go for it on fourth down. We're going for it on fourth down on defense.
Like this is our defensive play call that we have for fourth down. They have an entire package right now of play calls that they can run on fourth down.
And you know what's going to happen next is there's going to be another coach that comes into the league that has suckled at the teat of Brandon Staley and envies the way that he calls games. And he's going to come into the league, or she, if it's kind of Lisa Rice, and they're going to be the same mindset as Brandon Staley, except much stupider because Brandon Staley knows what he's doing.
I think he he's done the research and he has a pretty good setup in terms of knowing exactly when to go forward and when he's not going to go for it going into a game. So he's not relying on gut, but there's going to be a guy that doesn't have that background to him that just sees other coaches going forward a ton.
And this guy's going to go for a ton and be a god-awful head

coach and be a really big dummy yep you're absolutely right and there's and again yeah go ahead there's one other piece of analytics that i think you and i are pretty good at too the analytics aspect of yep tails never fails tails never fails tails didn't fail in overtime and also if anybody out there has actually crunched the numbers i would love to see what the stats are over the course of the history of the NFL,

if Tails hits more in overtime, i feel like it hits more in overtime has to it never fails and one last thing about the analytics part like i hope someone the best part about the awls is we have some actual smart people out there who listen to this show who then can take our arguments and our thoughts and and like put them in bundle them into actual numbers, much like everything in life, the extremes on every argument are very, very stupid. Anyone who says you have to go for it every time on fourth and short, because they're playing with a spreadsheet that makes no sense.
There's gotta be a human element into this game that you have to put like factor in. And then anyone who says you have to punt and be as conservative as possible is also stupid so it's like football is life and anyone who thinks they have all the answers i don't have all the answers my whole point is anyone who says you brandon saley going on fourth down every single time is genius that just doesn't feel right because you can't have all the answers there cannot be all the answers it's the eat the rich versus the kill the poor right right in reality we should be eating the middle class yes exactly so all right so this game big takeaways coming from this game i actually respect the chargers more i've said i've dumped on the chargers a little bit this year because at times i've watched them notably like the broncos game that they played or the Patriots game where they looked terrible or the Ravens game I've said like those have stuck in my head I actually thought they looked good tonight like they they played well they were in it they should have probably won this game their defense faltered at the end because Patrick Mahomes is Patrick Mahomes and as for the Chiefs I actually like on the other side something's wrong with Patrick Mahomes he Patrick Mahomes.
And as for the Chiefs, I actually, like, on the other side, something's wrong with Patrick Mahomes. Like, he was great at the end, but he was so bad for three quarters there.
Like, he was just off. It felt like he wasn't followed through, like, had any follow-through with his throws.
And the Chiefs defense is clearly at a point now where they can win, like, they can go deep in the playoffs. Is Patrick Mahomes the one that we should be worried about maybe not because he showed up at the end but there was definitely a part of this game where i was like wait what's wrong with this guy he made he made some bad throws that he normally does not make right the one that he skipped that was i think it landed at like the two yard line uh that's that's a throw the fourth down i i've never seen him make a throw like that before ever it was weird he didn't he had a lot of everything was off a little bit either high or low and it was just like it just felt a little bit off for the entire you know first probably i don't know 53 minutes of the game but once he gets into his rhythm then he's fine he needs to make like one throw if one one connects, then he's like, okay, oh, that's right.
Yeah.

I'm Patrick Mahomes. I can do this all day long.

I actually, I noticed this a couple

times tonight and I've seen it a few times earlier this season,

especially against zone defenses.

Does Patrick Mahomes throw

a curveball? Does he have

the ability to make the ball

curve in the air? I don't know if it's physically

possible, but I swear to God,

I think that there are a couple plays that I saw tonight. One to Kelsey and one to Tyreek Hill when they were running through zone coverage where it looked like the ball curved in the air and they adjusted to it, jumped and made the catch.
It might just be, it might be the COVID talking, actually. So that's probably what it is.
But if it's not, somebody let me know if it's physically possible. One of the numbers guys out there,

tell me if it's physically possible to throw a curveball with a football.

And by the way, Travis Kelsey, so like if you're nitpicking,

which is kind of what you have to do in the NFL this year,

because everyone's either you could make the argument everyone's bad

or there's a few really good teams.

Travis Kelsey hasn't been putting up crazy numbers the last, I don't know, three or four weeks. Tonight, he was, that was Travis Kelsey.
That last catch of the game was amazing. Yeah.
When Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelsey are both playing at their peak, I guess that, like, you shouldn't be worried about the Chiefs offense. I just, it was just very weird watching those first three quarters because, again, it's not like Mahomes was, it's all all relative he wasn't a bad quarterback he just for hit for what we expect from mahomes he looked off and then of course he showed up and it kind of clicked i don't know you you wonder if like in the playoffs you can't always rely on it clicking with seven minutes left in the fourth quarter yeah both teams look like they they're among the best inFC.
This is bad news for my Chargers future, so it looks like I'm still not going to be gambling until mid-January. But I think that they can probably be happy with how they play tonight if they look at it like we did.
We almost beat the Chiefs. We should have beat the Chiefs tonight.
They should have won this game tonight. And they played well, so I think that they're a legitimate team.
I don't think that any of their performances earlier this year where they look great I don't think that those were flukes at all I think they're just a good team they ran into a team that can outscore them at the end of a game and that's kind of what the Chiefs do to everybody so that's not like a huge knock against the Chargers at all it is crazy to think that if the Patriots don't beat the Colts on Saturday night,

the chiefs, I mean,

they'll be favored in their last final three games.

They're playing at home against the Steelers,

then at the Bengals at the Broncos, not easy games,

but there'll be favored in all three.

And so they'll like from all the hand wringing we did in September and

October, the chiefs would have ripped off.

If they, you know,

if they finish off and win these last three games,

they would have ripped off like 11 or 12 in a row and gotten the one seed yeah I mean it just shows how good Andy Reid is and how good Patrick Holmes is and all their skilled players as a as a fan of Hank and all of his football takes I just want to reprimand you I want to rebuke you for even suggesting that the Patriots are going to lose this week I'm just saying I do do. I think the Patriots are going to win on Saturday night, but it's just, it's crazy to think that the, we're, we're the chiefs.
Yeah. The chiefs were three and four, like the chiefs were three and four and they, and they have, they will be favored to finish 13 and four.
Think about that. That's pretty, that's pretty nuts.
And also how, how cool must must it be if you're a visiting football team on the west coast and you win a primetime game and then you are a fan you go out there you go to la for this game you win a primetime game and then you get to go out for like an entire night of partying right after that must be like the god moment for you speaking of which shout out chargers fans shout out chargers fans i actually actually feel like they were heard from a little bit tonight. Like it did feel like a real, it didn't feel like Chiefs fans had totally overtaken the entire place.
It felt like Chargers fans were there. It didn't feel like that Chargers-Steelers game.
What were you going to say, Hank, before we get to our weekend preview? Well, we do talk about it coming up in the weekend preview, but I feel like we recorded that earlier today. And since that came out the other Saturday night game, the Browns and the Raiders, there's been a ton of drama that's come out from when we recorded earlier this afternoon to now Baker Mayfield's publicly chirping them.
Apparently the NFL, they try, they, from what I gather gather you guys can correct me if i'm wrong the nfl basically knew that a bunch of browns players were going to test positive so they tried to not test them at all and then the nfl pa got involved like during practice and we're like that you know it's in our nfl pa like you guys have to test this is a breach of contract whatever so then after practice the Browns got tested so that's why so many other players tested positive and that's why the Browns players and fans are so mad because it's like first you said we're not testing you had us practice with everyone then tested after and then they had like 20 more positive tests but the game is still going on the Browns after the their divisional opponent the ravens last year got like all of we talked right right the browns and the lions are the two say well i guess you could throw in the saints and the patriots too for other reasons but the browns the lions non-winning fan bases they get screwed by the nfl feels like an inordinate amount of time it feels like the nfl essentially says oh well it's the Browns who cares like they like what is a bunch of people from Cleveland going to complain no no justice for the Browns justice for our friends in Cleveland this is bullshit this is bullshit they pushed so many games back last year push this fucking game back you're screwing you are screwing over the Browns. This is complete bullshit.
Fuck the NFL for this. I agree with Big Cat 100%.
And it's not just because the Washington football team is also getting screwed over. I think it's just the right thing to do.
I think you need to move these games. Like Hank said, Wednesday night football.
You did it last year. I remember I didn't.
The Steelers also played a game that was supposed to be a Thursday night game on a Monday night. They did it last year.
They can do it again. It's it does become a player safety issue.
If you have teams that are going out there with a bunch of guys that have never played an NFL game before. Like that's that's that's on you, Roger Goodell.
And the Browns got like set up basically. Yeah, they got set up.
They got set up. And boy, I'm on.
I'm on Cleveland side here. No, it's absolute bullshit.

And I do actually think like what I just said, I actually believe.

I think the NFL and the league offices, when they make a decision that goes against the Lions or the Browns, they're like, what's the worst is going to happen?

Some Lions or Browns fans are going to complain.

No, no, we're going to stand up for them because it's bullshit.

We'll stand up for you because they won't listen to you. NFL, I'm going to boycott.
Fuck. I was going to do maybe first quarter, but that's not.
Take the first week off with me. Here's what we do.
No, no, no. You know what? You know what we're going to do? We're going to boycott all the pregame shows.
No, no. I am going to boycott pro bowl uh pro bowl but i probably would tune in for a little bit of that i am going to boycott you we're all halftime show no no we're gonna watch that we'll probably even be at the super bowl oh it's gonna be sick actually it's gonna be Dr.
Dre. Oh, be Dr.
Dre. All right.
I got it. I got it.
I got it. I am going to boycott watching the Combine, but only the linebackers.
Okay. I'm just...
Is that fair? I'm going to boycott. I will not watch the linebackers run.
I will not watch them do any kind of agility tests.

I will not watch them bench press.

When that happens, I want an alert from you, Jake.

I want you to put this in the calendar right now.

When the linebackers are up on NFL network at the combine radio silence from

your boy, justice for Cleveland thoughts.

I mean, you guys join me. Will you join me in my boycott yeah i i will join you i'm not i'm not happy about it because i i really like watching the linebackers bench press that's those are the only guys that i we had to give something no just listen hear me out the linebackers is them and the defensive tackles when they do bench press those are the numbers where you're like damn that dude's really strong i i want to i want to stand with cleveland that seems like maybe we can compromise no you have to do this pft to stand with cleveland stand with cleveland also because i wanted to watch offensive lineman run i want to watch the quarterbacks throw like all that stuff so i did this like come on stand with cleveland what if linebackers what if we boy no no that's funny specialists are funny i thought i thought this out like linebackers it's kind of the same thing every year you watch the same thing every year okay what if we freak out if we boycott boycott rich eyes and running the 40 we won't watch that he's a linebacker so yes he would be part of that march 1st to 7th okay he's a i would say rich eyes it is probably a linebacker so he'll he'll be part of the boycott perfect add it in that's for the lions just for future fuck overs okay all right so there you go nfl you have our you have our demands uh if you don't fix this this show and all of our listeners will not be watching.
We will do a moment of silence across the nation while the linebackers run the 40. Boom.
There it is. Ball's in your court, Raj.
That's how you play hardball, boys. That's how you do it.
I'm still going to. BFT doesn't feel like he's in.
I feel like you're not in. Well, I like watching the bench press.
This is my problem. I'll do it.
I'll do it. I'll do it i'm still going to pft doesn't feel like he's in i feel like you're not in well i i like watching the bench press this is my problem i'll do it i'll do it i'll do it and i'm also thinking like rich eisen's things for charity okay i will watch rich eisen but i won't retweet it i'm not going to retweet rich eisen's 40 time okay perfect perfect i will watch it and i'm not going to watch the linebackers bench we're good all right so um all right let's get to the rest of the show just a reminder so pft has covid we're gonna probably be on zoom for the next few shows sucks but again this is where we find out who has the real grit because this show was zoom for the first six months of its existence so if you complain you're basically saying you're privileged like glory boy you've been around for just the awards not for the grit that we had the first six months of the show that's a fact right oh it's absolutely fact yeah okay i think the real the real ones know in fact some might say that the skype shows, that's how long ago we used to do them.

Zoom wasn't even a thing.

True.

Zoom shows are better at times than the shows in person.

If you can handle us at, what is it?

How does that say?

How is that saying? If you don't love me at my Zoom shows,

you don't deserve me at my studio shows.

You couldn't handle me falling asleep during the Skype shows back in the day.

Yeah, if you can't handle the time that Hank literally fell asleep

Thank you. my zoom shows you don't deserve me at my studio shows couldn't handle me falling asleep during the yeah that's what he said back in the day yeah if you can't handle the time that hank literally fell asleep uh during an nba game and we had to call his house uh to wake him up you don't deserve us at our studio that was blake griffin clippers that's how long ago that was that was blake griffin clippers yeah and i we had to call you that was we thought you died we legit thought you died we went we taped some of the show and then we're like we'll finish the show after the game and when we when it came to being after the game at like 11 o'clock hank was nowhere to be found because he had fallen asleep i mean that's what that honestly though that's what's weird like tonight even i was like it's like you get in a more loungy kind of oh yeah on the couch yep i could fall asleep right now and then easily we have to work after we were concerned for a little bit when when you weren't responsive to anything but i think if that happened now we would like first thing we would do just be call your house we'd be like i don't care I'm talking.
We being big cat sat on the zoom for probably like a half hour being like, you think he's going to come on soon? All right, let's get to the rest of the show. Okay.
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So before we talk about the weekend preview, Urban Meyer has been fired in the middle of the night was fired from the jacksonville jaguars something that uh is shocking in the fact that it took so long because we all saw this coming i think it was probably the most predicted take of all time that urban meyer would not work in the nfl we thought maybe it would be a health issue or uh he would just leave one day and never come back but no he was actually fired now pft i've been thinking about this a lot all these losers that are trying to take down urban meyer who's a proven winner do you think that it's because of jealousy like when you actually break this down the jacksonville jaguars has a staff full losers picked by a winner but a staff full losers they got a team full losers what does a loser what is a loser most scared of a winner they're scared of urban meyer that is why they have ousted he was too much of an alpha he's too much of a threat and the kicker is the guy that brought him down. Big guy, I don't know about you, but in my day, it was expected that you would kick the kicker.
As a kicker, I've been kicked by every coach, every boss that I've ever had. I think it's disgusting that in today's woke culture that we're allowing a kicker to take out a winner like Urban Meyer.
And as a matter of fact, like in the of the night it's it's very strange some shady stuff is going on i almost feel like maybe lambo was put up to this to try to get urban meyer out because all the losers were afraid that they were going to lose their job once they got found out by the winner that they were all losers in fact i i almost feel like it would be a good move on our part. And honestly, there are a lot of people that wanted urban out and it was expected.
Like you said, I hope you're happy with yourself. I hope that you got your wish because the very first thing that I thought right after urban Meyer got fired was I miss urban Meyer.
Yeah. I already miss having him around.
He was a lot of fun. I've, we should make a website of urban meyer facts like we did with josh allen just urban meyer facts.com where you click a button and it pops up a stat that says like um you know urban meyer uh the number one all-time winning percentage for an nfl head coach in games played in england yes urban meyer um had two fewer people shot by Aaron Hernandez when he was playing for him than Bill Belichick.
Things like that. Fact.
All these are facts. Urban Meyer made Tim Tebow a winning quarterback.
All these things are fact. Urban Meyer is a winner.
It also now PFT earmuffs here for a second, but it is kind of perfect. My theory that all the losers wanted him out.
Kickers are the apex loser in an NFL locker room. They're the king of losers.
So it was like once Josh Lambeau spoke up, that was it. All the losers had finally unionized to get rid of Urban Meyer, a proven winner.
Now, because he's a winner, I want to do a quick exercise power rank. Urban Myers wins in the NFL.
I'm going the win against the bills. One, the win against the dolphins too.
I'm going to go. No, I'm going to, I'm going to flip it on you.
I'm going to say the win against the dolphins in England, because that's tougher. I mean, you have to take your guys overseas.
That's a big ocean. You have to travel across the win against the bills was at home.
And after what we've seen from the bills, I feel like maybe, maybe urban put the blueprint out there for maybe he saw something. He's not getting credit for the Patriots win over the bills or the, or the bucks went over the bills, even though they use the exact same formula that urban meyer

did which was limit their scoring that's what urban that's what urban did he set up the blueprint for that and urban meyer another fact about him he's the only coach in the state of florida that has beaten the buffalo bills in regulation this year whoa that's crazy also another fact about urban Meyer uh the Bills, who do they play out in Florida? Wait, did they not beat the Dolphins? I think the Bills beat the Dolphins, and then the Bills lost in overtime to the Buccaneers. So in regulation.
Yes, got it, got it. That's a great stat.
Also, another stat, Urban Meyer, his family is ride or die because we saw from his daughter she had an instagram story that said the spirit of the enemy is full force battle mode in this world and in people this is war but like i said we all know who wins in the end i think she's talking i think urban meyer is is jesus in this and then yeah she went on to say the enemy aka the world really doesn't want to see good people win. And you can argue whether my dad is a good person or not based on what you see in the media, parentheses, super reliable source of info, as we know.
Nice. Anyone who truly knows us knows how incredible he is as a person.
And the world hates any platform we have. So he's going to create chaos to destroy it little does he know he's making it stronger it's not over keep watching urban meyer is going to be emperor of the world well i think yeah she's either saying that he's god or that he's jesus i'm not sure which one it is i think well he probably was jesus and now he's god the way that he's been crucified the last couple of days.
And as she's getting to the end of this Instagram story, it's very I'm confused by the pronouns that she uses. So she's like, little does he know he's making it stronger? I don't know who's he and who's it.
But the part that was most instructive to me about that entire post is the opening line, which is the enemy parentheses, a.k.a. the the world yeah so you you know that you're in a good spot when literally the entire world is against you billy what were you gonna say i think she may be referring to dan orlovsky who on the record dan orlovsky on the record said urban meyer is a bad dude So when she's talking about good people and Dan Orlovsky,

who we've talked about is the arbiter of, you know, being good person,

fidelity, you know, monogamy. I think,

I think that is where she may be talking to you.

You might be right. I just know.

And it's something that happens every time that we fire a coach,

you build someone up to break them down. Then you, then you flip it on them.
I'm Team Urban Meyer now. I thought he was a terrible NFL head coach.
I said he was going to be a terrible NFL hug coach. He's a Hall of Fame college football coach.
Everything he did in college football doesn't translate to the NFL. I still think he could go and win a national title in college football.
But now I'm an Urban Meyer believer. I'm a winner.
I want to be a winner with Urban Meyer. Fuck all the losers.
Free Urban Meyer. I already miss Urban Meyer.
I really do. And the rest of the NFL media, you're going to miss him, too, because it's the it's the Scarface.
It's you want somebody to point out and say, I want to say the impression. Yeah, that's the bad guy.
Who's the bad guy? That's somebody to point out point out and be like that's the enemy that's the guy that we don't like and usually i mean i haven't seen the end of scarface but i know that al pacino is a fucking winner in that movie yeah he wins he actually it's a prequel to um to godfather nice which is also a prequel to any given sunday right so a winner in that movie right and then a prequel to irishman so he wins he just keeps winning although he dies you know he's an irishman spoiler but no that's not what that's not a spoiler hank that's a movie's three hours long either you've seen it or you're never gonna see it yeah i started it and never finished yeah well also it's big guys in Sex and the City, too. It's also a historical fact.
So, like, his character, once you learn who his character is, you know he's going to die because of history. It's like the Titanic.
Do they know where the body is? No. So.
That's true. That's true.
All right. Last thing on Urban Meyer.
We have to now just quickly talk about this game because as much as we're now Team Urban Meyer, he needs to be freed. He got a raw deal.
I have a feeling the Jaguars are going to play the game of their life on Sunday because they hated his guts so much, which is rightfully so. He seemed like a pretty terrible coach in the NFL ranks.
but this feels like a 50 year storm of the Jaguars trying their absolute hardest for Daryl Bevel because now the bad guy's gone. No, I disagree.
But cat, I think the Jaguars are going to play the game of their season so far. They're going to go out there and set the world on fire for urban Meyer because they missed their guy.
Got it. Circle the wagons, be like we're rallying in the name of Urban Meyer.
This one this weekend is for their embattled head coach. Going to be playing with a lot of emotion.
You're going to be able to see that the guys miss him a lot. And also maybe the one, the biggest loser on this team might in fact be Trevor Lawrence.
Billy called this a while ago, but he's won so much that he's a loser because he doesn't know how to lose. Does that make sense? And it does.
But I think he's actually a winner here because now he has the ultimate trump card. If his NFL career doesn't go well, he's like, well, I had Urban Meyer as my coach.
He is set up now. Like everyone is like, wow, that really sucked for Trevor Lawrence.
Urban Meyer ruined him. Yeah.
But you know who else had Urban Meyer as their coach? Tim Tebow, Cardell Jones, all these guys who won national championships. So Trevor couldn't get it done.
In fact, we might be looking at putting the fastest coach killer label of all time on Trevor Lawrence. I think that Trevor Lawrence killed Urban Meyer.
That's a fair point. The whole thing is just ridiculous.
This is like, it's rare in sports. Well, it's rare in sports because, you know, let's just hand up.
I have very bad takes. I don't predict the future very well, but it's rare that everyone is in lockstep when a guy gets hired.
You're like, that's a bad hire. That doesn't make any sense.
And then it, it didn't make sense in record speed,

record speed. It also happened in slow motion where everybody saw this hire coming.
There was

like a three month buildup to it. Once Doug Marone got fired, cried his way back, got unfired,

came back for another season. We all saw Urban Meyer going to the Jaguars.
We all knew it was

going to happen. And it was like a train wreck that you saw happening from a mile away.
You're

like, please no hit the emergency brake. I see the three red blinking signs that you have

Thank you. Jaguars we all knew it was going to happen and it was like a train wreck that you saw happening from a mile away you're like please no hit the emergency brake I see the three red blinking signs that you have please stop this train for the love of God and it just kept going and going going and then yes turns out we were right about something yes and uh he it's just it's going to be perfect because everyone should be ready for this Urban Meyer sliding back into that that desk on the fox big noon kickoff i don't even know it might even be as early as this year if they have a bowl game pre-show uh but that will happen he'll probably do i'm i'm thinking maybe one interview heart to heart with maybe carissa thompson who we love but like something like that maybe aaron andrew someone sit down.
He says, yeah, you know, I didn't do a good job, my health, my family, all that stuff. And then boom, 10 minute interview back sitting next to Bob Stoops, yucking it up maybe once or twice a joke about how he was a bad coach, the NFL.
And then we just move on with our lives. And in like three years, he'll be linked to some big-time job.
Probably go take it, win a national title, and this will all be like, oh, remember when Urban Meyer coached the Jaguars for 15 games? That was funny. Yeah, actually, Urban's going to be like a verbal meme, the ultimate warrior running back into the ring, except it's Tim Tebow coming to do the interview with Urban Meyer to talk to him about how much he's changed and what he's learned from this experience, not just as a football coach, Big Cat, but more importantly, as a father and as a husband.
Yes, as a man, as a man of faith. All right, let's talk picks.
Let's talk about the games. This is unfortunately, COVID is all the way back.
There is no way that you can predict like where these lines are moving, who's playing, who's not. We're going to do our best job at doing it.
PFT is on a 13-0 streak right now that he has not placed a single bet on, but it still counts in that respect. Jake, do you want to do the standings real quick before we go around the room? Yeah, so PFT is a game and a half up on Hank, who is three and a half up on me.
Big Cat and Billy, you guys had a push. So Big Cat, you're a half behind me.
Liam, another game. And then Billy by himself, a game and a half behind Liam.
So it's Billy and Hank still. And we have four weeks.
We have four weeks left. 16 picks.
16 picks. Right now, it looks like it's Hank and Billy, which would be the funniest of the combos, I think.
I think you and PFT actually. No, I don't think so.
That would not mean Big Cat would just cheat. Yeah, we would just get in a plane and just be like, oh, that was fun.
We'd get in a plane. We'd stop in like Oklahoma, take some pictures, get in a plane and just be like oh that was fun yeah we'd get in a plane we'd stop in like oklahoma take some pictures get in a plane stop in la yeah now even though i haven't been betting on these picks i'm still making money for the people out there that's what i'm doing so my promise to you is i'm i'm not going to bet on any of my picks again this week just so i can try to keep this going but it's not like there's nothing you know financial consequences to me because time is money.
So I'd prefer to not get in the car ride across the country. That's, that's, you know, hours and hours.
I could be, I could actually be at the bank that entire time. So that's fair point.
It's more valuable for me to stay here. Fair point.
All right, let's do some picks. Hank, let's start with you.
You're over again, by the way, if you missed the show which you i don't know why you would but we're on zoom so uh bear with us hank you're over or your favorite sorry uh my favorite i does also want to note uh that pft is not 13 you know picking his picks his hat is 13 you know picks. Ah, and he's not wearing the hat.

So I'd like to note that that's, that's cap by Hank,

because I don't wear my hat when I make the picks.

I wear my hat when I watch the games.

So, well,

I believe last week when they were talking about your picture,

like, well, my hat is 13 and 0 picking against the spread.

Those are, that's a quote directly from your mouth.

Oh, wow. While I'm wearing the hat, when I watched the games, Hank, I don't know.
When you said your hat picking against the spread, you didn't actually mean it. When I'm watching the games, when the games are on TV, if I'm wearing the hat, I make my picks.
Interesting. All right.
My favorite is the Buccaneers minus 10 and a half. That doesn't make any sense.
That's fine. I'm a positive guy.
And I think you're always correct. BFT.
My favorite is the Buccaneers, minus 10.5. Okay, Bucs, Saints, Sunday night football.
The Saints have owned Tom Brady, but the Saints have Taysom Hill now. I really am not excited for this game.
I don't know why. I guess just because Jameis in this game and and the Saints playing for a playoff spot would make this game must watch.
Now it's just Tom Brady feels like he's going to break another record and the Bucs are going to win by 100. Well, this is also the first game since we've gotten the preview for the Sean Payton movie about the year off that he took when he got suspended by Roger Goodell and Kevin James is playing Sean Payton.
And by far and away, the best part of that entire trailer was just, I think they have to do this in every Adam Sandler movie, but have all the main characters puke on each other, which is awesome. So I like that.
I also like the fact that this is a Saints team that's kind of being slept on right now. They kind of, they made a little bit of a statement last week, but that was also against the Jets.
But Kamara coming back is huge for their offense they have the bucks number in the regular season recently and something tells me we might be seeing those nice icy white saints uniforms in this game which i have to bet on yeah tom brady's one and three as a buck against the saints the one being though the playoffs which is like if you're a saints fan i've heard our good friend mincy trying to be like we own the bucks it's like well it's tough to say that when he went to the superdome and won a playoff game then won a super bowl but um they do feel like in the regular season they have their number but also no you know it's like no team you only own tom brady for a certain amount of time like that it always comes least Tom Brady is least, and rent is due every day? Okay. All right.
Liam, Bubba. I'm taking bills minus 10.5.
I'm just fading the Panthers. I don't know.
Is Sam Darnold playing? Who cares? Yeah. I mean, PJ Walker.
I was going to say it was like Cam Newton can can't throw football, so either way, I kind of don't care. I don't know how I can score any points in this game, so I'm taking the bills.
If you put all three Panthers quarterbacks and like melded them together, Sam Donald, P.J. Walker, and Cam Newton, I still don't think they would win this game.
If you took every single strength from each three, I still don't think they would have enough to win this game so what what would those strengths be like cam's height cam's height and yes size sam darnold's immunity to mononucleosis yeah sam yes or sam darnold's he can kind of sling it but he just yeah like turns it over constantly he's addicted to turning it over so i'm right they all are pj walker i guess would be the ball security you need ball security somewhere because the other two don't have it i also feel like cam newton he's not even good enough at passing anymore to throw a lot of interceptions because the balls that he throws are so wildly off target that they don't even go close to the cornerbacks yeah but it just hits the guy in the feet so yeah he's cam newton is is as someone who bet on the panthers last week he is prime every time he drops back you're saying to yourself oh no oh no oh no like there's no there's no feeling of oh this is going to be a good play it's just will it be a disaster or an incompletion yep those are the two types of quarterbacks the ones where when they throw a pass you're like oh yeah this is gonna be sexy and the other ones where it's like god damn it here's another pick yeah definitely nothing good happens when cam newton's passing and i i like what bubba said which is like i don't really care about the panthers so i'm betting against them that that's me sums up my brain for most of the second half of any nfl season just the teams i don't give a shit about i'm'm going to bet against them. Yeah.
All right. PFT, your favorite.
Okay. Hank's in my head because I had the coming of age last week where I realized that Hank is correct in all of his opinions about Tom Brady and the Patriots.
Everything that I've tried to fight my entire life watching football, Hank is right about. I can't argue with results at this point.
They've won too much, and it's foolish of me. I sound like a loser when I'm betting against Tom Brady.
He's in my head. In that case, I'm going to go with the Jags.
Jags minus five at home against the Texans. They're going to win this one for Coach Meyer.
Okay, there we go. I wanted to bet the Jags so bad and then I was like wait they're favored by this much holy fuck like how can who knows with this game it's gonna be just a reminder and i guess this is thrown out the window because urban meyer is not the coach anymore but the jags team total under is 12 and 1 on the year to the under which is crazy i think maybe just take the over now, flip it, flip it and reverse it on everyone.

All right.

So that's your favorite.

I'm going to take Arizona Cardinals minus 13 at Detroit.

Get right game.

I just don't know.

I know DeAndre Hopkins out for the rest of the season.

I just don't know how the Lions secondary can hold up on Kyler.

I feel like this will be like the Cardinals will take out all their anger from last week to this week. Give me the Cardinals minus 13.
Also, wait, no, it's Patrick Mahomes in a dome is unstoppable. I was thinking it was Kyler plays in a dome.
All right, Billy, Billy, your favorite. So my favorite is the Raiders by one.
All my picks this week were made by nostradamus the hedgehog uh i've been very very cold on a cold streak the past two weeks so i had to bring in the big guns i had to bring in nostradamus the hedgehog so he made all these picks i just picked the games and then he picked homer away on the spread so we're going with raiders by one great pick by nostradamus because the Browns are pretty banged up with COVID. So we'll see how this goes.
Wait, but Nostradamus has terrible close value on the line because right. He, you could have gotten the Raiders plus six, like two days ago.
So he's clearly, he can't see the future if he didn't hammer that. Well, he probably definitely sees it now.
Closing life value is terrible for Nostradamus. Just know, I just want, because there's a lot of sharp bettors that listen to this because we're so good at gambling.
The CLV on Nostradamus is very bad. Well, you know, I just asked him this morning.
So, yeah, I think he's still sticking with it. I actually think Billy set his head up for failure by picking this game because Nostradamus just picked against the spread.
Billy kind of put Nostradamus in a bad position by signing this game to him. Yeah, and this game, by the way, Saturday afternoon, I would have been excited maybe if everyone wasn't out with COVID.
But it's such a weird game because the Raiders are dead, but maybe not. And the Browns are alive, but maybe not.
So it's a very strange game because all the Browns fans are pissed off, obviously, because they all have COVID on the team. And last year, the Ravens got such like the NFL really held the Ravens hand with rescheduling every single game that they possibly could.
None of that is happening this year. Their coach has COVID like it's it's bad for the Browns right now.
And the league is just absolutely fucking them over. So I understand where they're coming from on that one.
I think that I'm still going to watch it because it's the it's the same colors and it's the same uniforms. Right.
And I'll watch anything like I love. I love draft day, the movie, which objectively sucked, but because it's the it's the same colors and it's the same uniforms right and i'll watch anything like i love i love draft day the movie which objectively sucked but because it had the official browns logos in it i was like this is cool this reminds me of the nfl that i watch on tv so i will be watching this game of course you have to watch especially a saturday afternoon standalone game all right jake your favorite yeah so pft you do have five not five and a half on Jacksonville.
So even better for your favorite pick. I'm riding with Liam.
I'm taking the bills minus 10 and a half. I agree.
Back to back losses. They need a statement.
They'll smoke them. There we go.
Get right in Buffalo. All right, Hank, your underdog.
I'm assuming we all have the same one. So we all just want to go forward with it.
I mean, I think we do. Yeah.
I mean, if we don't, you guys are idiots, but that's fine. I don't have that.
No, I don't have that. No.
All right. Well, I have the Patriots, Liam, Billy.
They seem like they're smart guys. Jake, I don't know what you're thinking.
Big Cat and PFT are haters, so I'm not surprised. But I have the Patriots plus two money line.
I'll have it 10 different ways. I have it two and a half.
It's two and a half. It doesn't matter.
You know you're hitting the money line. Just hit the plus sign.
Wait, but it's Nostradamus. It's not Billy.
So don't give Billy credit. Nostradamus.
I picked this game hoping he would go for the

Patriots and he did. Fuck yes.

Honestly, he took some

weird picks on the overs and

unders, but look into those red

eyes. Hank,

I'm not being a hater. I do

think the Patriots are going to win because it just feels like

a game. Everyone's going to talk themselves into

the Colts and then the Patriots win.

I like another game more. I like another game more.
Is that okay with you? That's fine. Everyone's going to talk themselves into the Colts.
And then the pitch went, I like another game more.

I like another game more. Is that okay

with you? That's fine. It's great.

Yeah, actually a personal slight

that I'm not betting on the Patriots. I don't.

I just, I want to help you big cat. You're

pet, you know, you're having a tough season. I'm trying to help

bring you up.

Hank, you did take it as a personal

you just called us haters

like five seconds ago. Well, you got They both can be true.
How about this, Hank? How about the fact that I will be putting my own money on the Patriots, but these are not the picks that I'm giving out for the people to win. Okay.
There it is. I thought it was positive, Hank.
No, it's not. It's not.
He tried. This COVID thing has been tough to be positive through uh he can't be positive ever no i'm positive as fuck you're right you're right you guys aren't haters we're law lovers it's a loving podcast love you guys all right pft you're uh you're underdog uh my underdog is the bangles plus two and a half at the broncos same love this game getting back right for the Bengals.
Matter of fact, I'll tease the alternate.

I'll sprinkle this one on you guys.

Bengals by nine might just move that lineup.

I feel like the Bengals are going to win by double digits in this game.

I love this pick as well.

I think the Bengals, I just, I love Joe Burrow.

I love Joe Burrow.

And if you didn't bet the Bengals, then you're a hater of Joe Burrow, Hank.

I will be betting the Bengals. You know, who's're a hater of Joe Burrow, Hank.
I will be betting the Bengals. You know who's not a hater of Joe Burrow is a winner, Urban Meyer, who recruited Joe Burrow to play at Ohio State, despite what Colin Coward might tell you.
Fact, fact. All right, so PFT and I have the Bengals.
Jake, your underdog. I'm taking the Steelers plus one at home against the Titans.
Every time we think the Steelers are dead,

come back and keep their season alive.

Right.

The last few weeks, it's been a roller coaster.

So I almost went with the Steelers.

I just don't without TJ watt.

I assume he's not playing.

Is TJ watt playing?

This is the hardest,

like Friday we've had in a long time in terms of like,

who the fuck is playing?

Who's injured?

Who's got COVID. I just am scared of the steelers without tj watt maybe chase claypool do you think big ben ignores chase claypool or do you think he tries to to boost him up i think he ignores him i think big ben yeah he treats him like a dog that's just been in the trash you know like i'm not i'm not even going to acknowledge it he's trying to rehome chase cleeple right now yeah you're probably right all right so you have the stealers what do you got jake as of yesterday uh mike tomlin sounds optimistic oh tj walk i like that pick then uh yesterday a lot can change a lot can change a lot can change uh hank you're over my over is the cardinals lions 47 and a half big cat alluded to it earlier that kyler's going to come out put up a big uh big scoring game going against jared goff gunslinger so that to me just screams points points points yeah points everywhere in a dome the lines might lose but it might be you know 35 to 21 oh thank you hank that was nice what you did you're welcome he just gave a your computer model has me covering of course fucking beautiful you're the best uh all right uh liam you're over uh we're going saints bucks over 46 and a half okay on over that is a fun over late at night you know fun over i don't i don't like it

my model says otherwise what does your model say on this one yeah uh my model says we're looking

at a 41 point total in this game whoa yeah whoa in the under significantly because think about the

saints they're just going to kill the clock right i don't think that they have any good you know

Thank you. in this game.
Whoa. Yeah.
Whoa. In the under significantly because think about the saints.
They're just going to kill the clock. Right.
I don't think that they have any good, you know, receivers that they can pass or that taste and Hill can, can find even if they do get open. So I think it's going to bleed the clock.
I think the saints defense is going to do a pretty good job. Relatively speaking against Tom Brady.
So I like the under in this game. Okay.
I think the I think the Bucs are going to just roll over. Billy, Nostradamus? Nostradamus took the over.
This was my under last week, so I was like the Bucs. So I was like, let's see how they're going to do with Nostradamus picking, and he picked the over.
Oh, okay. There you go.
I knew it was right the whole time. Yeah.
It's a weird week. You need to consult the weird professionals.
By the way, last week, Billy had his little existential breakdown in the middle of the show about which game he was going to flip over under, and he picked the wrong one on both. So that was great.
So my flip, I stuck with my original picks, which I should have I had the chance. Right.
Or pushed. One push.
Yeah, that's true. The one did push.
All right. So PFC, you're over.
Or no, you're under. Sorry.
Right. I was just talking.
Over, over, over. I'm sorry.
Over, over. Okay.
My over is Philly versus the Washington football team. 44 and a half points.
The Washington football team has everybody, everybody. I think they have two healthy defense alignment.
Besides that, I don't know. I don't know who they're going to play on Sunday.
It's actually ridiculous. I think they have 18 guys that are on the COVID list right now.
Philly is they're coming off. They're coming off a buy, right? They had Minshew play, went into the buy.
Now Jalen Hurts coming back out of it. philadelphia's offense looked pretty good when the last time that jalen hurts was in charge at least running the football and there's nobody on the football team that's going to be able to stop at all i i actually i don't know who's going to be playing is it possible for us to just not play this game to just forfeit chalk it as a loss and then move on because there's no there's no upside whatsoever to us playing this game when we taped advisors on wednesday the the given line we i picked washington football team plus five and a half and now it's nine and a half so it's like all these games are just who the fuck knows i there are too many names that are in my head right now i can't remember all of them but all i know is the browns are fucked the uh the washington football team's fucked those are the two teams that have it by far the worst you know who we haven't heard about the referees have you heard of any referees no that are getting coveted that are being put on the list that won't show up i haven't that's a good point that is a good point um all right my over i'm going patriots cults, Patriots cults this is uh solely i think what is it 45 jake 45 and a half 45 and a half and pft you have 44 not 44 and a half okay thank you even better um i'm just doing this because it's a saturday night nfl game standalone you gotta bet the over i treat this just the same as a sunday night game a thursday night game a monday night game like all All I want to do on Saturday night is sit down on the couch and watch points be scored.
That's what I will be doing. That's my analysis.
Billy, you have the over with Liam, and then Jake, you're over, and then we'll get to our unders. I have the over with Big Cat, Colts Patriots.
Let's go. Sit on the couch, watch some points scored.
I like it. Hank, round us off with your under.
I agree with what PFT was saying. Saints Bucks under 46 and a half.
My computer model has this as like a 31-10 game. So both of you guys land at 41.
Hank, can I share a model. All right, Bubba.

I'm

going with, it's so

ugly, Texans, Jags

under 39 and a half.

I feel like there's

very rarely a fun under.

And this one, the teams are just so

bad that I kind of want

to root for it. Yeah.

This has all the makings of the game that we

don't see on red zone for like two hours

straight. Yeah.

I don't see on Red Zone for like two hours straight. Yeah, just those the sequence of words that Bubba just said, like Texans Jags 39 and a half fun under fun under 40 is crazy.
Yeah, that's the funder. It is PFT.
You're under. So I have I have have saints bucks i'm going to give out an alternate under two for the people what if they want if they want i do this on a bonus just a bonus but saints bucks is my pick okay just a bonus under packers ravens 43 and a half i don't you can't give out another game no that's a bonus i've out bonus.
I'm not alternate spread bonuses. No, I've also done just a bonus bonus under before.
Got it. Okay.
That was actually my other. Yes, that was the other one I had written down as well.
PFC. So our models are lined up.
Yeah, can I have bonuses? You're synced. I didn't give it out, but I do.
do i did i did i was thinking about it yeah i'm co-signing it okay i'm taking the cowboys giants officially but i'm taking the cowboys giants under 44 and a half i think it's mike glennon again i don't know how he's going to score against this cowboys defense i also think dac is like weirdly off right now so um feels like a 21-13 type of game.

So that's my under that.

That's got to be the this got to be a low point for Cowboys Giants.

It feels like usually Cowboys Giants, even when the team suck, has some juice.

But Mike Glennon has really sucked everything out of this game.

He really has.

All I can just imagine is watching this game on Sunday afternoon, and it's going to be one of those super bright.

Thank you. but Mike Glennon has really sucked everything out of this game.
He really has. All I can just imagine is watching this game on Sunday afternoon, and it's going to be one of those super bright, cold New Jersey days.

I don't know what it is about the Meadowlands,

but it's always super bright there.

The sun's always really shiny, even the colder that it gets outside.

It's just going to look like a miserable place to be.

So I like the under in this one too.

All right, Billy.

We're going 49ers Falcons under 46 and a half chosen by yours truly. Shout out Dan Quinn.
This is the Dan Quinn game when he decided to kick a field goal from the one yard line when he was down seven. Never forgive.
Never forget. What do you guys think about this game? This one, like, the Falcons are somehow still alive,

but I don't think they're good.

And the 49ers are one of those teams that I do think they're good,

but they also have games where they just look terrible.

I think we're going to find out more about the 49ers

than we are about the Falcons.

I agree.

Because if the 49ers handle the Falcons, then I think they're officially to find out more about the 49ers than we are about the Falcons. I agree.
If the, if the 49ers handle the Falcons,

then I think they're officially don't look now.

This is the team that you don't want to play.

If they lose,

then they're still in that kind of like goodish,

but physically intimidating enough to beat some good teams mode that

they've been in for a while.

But if they beat the,

if they beat the Falcons,

I think that they're like a legit threat to win a game in the playoffs um i agree with that jake you're under i also have the big cat uh giants cowboys under jake from could be involved too i saw that i'm like if he's playing okay okay so we hit every game except for a couple we have jets and dolphins and Dolphins, Billy versus Jake. Any bets you guys want to do between each other? After doing a bet with Ben Mintz on the Jets and the Saints, I mean, I think my record's been hurt very badly by choosing the Jets as an underdog a couple weeks.
So I didn't this week. I don't think I will for the next three weeks.
But I do have confidence that Zach Wilson could do something. Okay.
Can we get a quote board of that? That is, that's a ringing endorsement. Zach Wilson could do something.
Can I suggest a marriage bet between you guys? Last week. Yeah, that's true.
Go ahead, PFT. What if the Jets win that Jake's not allowed to eat salad for the next week and if the Dolphins win, Billy can't eat meat? Ooh.
That is cruel because it's Christmas next week. Okay, so the week after.
First week of January when we're all back in the office okay deal all right that works yeah damn

oh yeah jacked off how about for lunch i have no no order the other person's lunch for no okay yeah that's fit and pay for it and pay for it okay okay um i have a quick to a stat for you guys because i've been deep in Tua non. Tua, after a defensive player talked shit about Tua after the game, in those games, Tua is 72%, six touchdowns, two interceptions, 100.23 passer rating.
One of those games was the Jets earlier this year. So look for Tua to just be incredible like he always is also by the numbers.
If you just went first 14 starts in the NFL, two is technically better than Tom Brady. Yep.
That's just a fact. I mean, these are stats.
Stats don't lie. Can't argue with numbers.
They could just be manipulated to make two a look really, really good to a non-shoutout. All right.
Other games that we didn't hit. We didn't talk about the

Seahawks-Rams.

This is one of those games that I

would have been so excited for if the Seahawks

had a pulse, but

now, I mean,

maybe, I guess I like the

Seahawks just because the Rams let down, right?

Yeah, I don't

know if the Rams can be as good as we saw them

on Monday. And the Seahawks, they still have that vibe to him where it's like Russell Wilson is liable to show up and probably just keep...
What if he just keeps getting better and better and better the more healed that his finger gets? Like for the next five years, every week he just keeps improving because his finger becomes like the most healthy finger on the planet. That's always in the back of my head.
Like maybe Russell Wilson will just activate this week and it'll be fine yep i agree with that and then packers ravens this looking at this now the entire board it is so depressing thinking about all the injuries and covet because this is a game lamar jackson might not play aaron rogers is hurt which i hope he stays hurt but you should be like this is a game we should be super excited for and it doesn't feel that way yes I agree we this this is game we're on paper at the start of the season we're like I can't wait for this week specifically to watch this game but again there's just too many I can't keep track is Lamar Jackson it his ankles keeping him out and then Aaron Rodgers is saying that his toe got aggravated but but he played for the rest of the game. But then it got worse after the game was over.
And now he can't. It sounds like he's a liar.
That's what it sounds like to me. Sounds like the Bears might have finally taken Aaron Rodgers out because his toe got aggravated against the Bears.
Big Cat, I've got a fun stat for you here. This is courtesy.
No, it is a fun stat. You'll like it.
It's courtesy of Taylor Valentine on Twitter. He says the number of pass attempts per coverage penalty enforced for NFL quarterbacks in 2021.
So in other words, this stat is showing you who gets bailed out by the referees most often and who gets bailed out least often. So the number of pass attempts per coverage penalty enforced number one number one quarterback in the entire league.
Who do you think that might be? Aaron Rodgers. It's Aaron Rodgers by a long shot.
Last place in the entire league. Who do you think has the NFL just absolutely fucking them over all the time, even though they're a great quarterback? I'm Brady.
God damn it, Hank. Josh Allen.
It's Josh Allen. Josh gets fucked more than any other other quarterback in the NFL and Aaron Rodgers gets bailed out all the time I'm just saying I'm not saying but I'm saying Josh Allen deserves a little bit more credit for how he's been playing this year I agree with everything you're saying it's bullshit the NFL is so rigged sorry I can't watch this anymore I just saw it live with myisha Curry.
Alright, let's do Fantasy Fuck Boys, then we'll get to Coach Prime and Firefest the Week. Oh, I was muted.
Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. It's Randall Kankles.
What's up, Randy Kank? My stardom this week is Trevor Lawrence. Fuck that kid.
He's a coach killer.'s ready to go off he's got the fucking handcuffs off he's set free he's gonna let the hair flow he's gonna let the ball go he's gonna get five tights let's go trevor my sit-em is the florida state seminoles once a proud organization national championship they're down bad they lost the number one recruit to Coach Prime That's a little preview for the people DBU stands for Down Bad University I've never seen a fucking fan base Cry hot on Twitter in my life Ever More like the semen holes And my sleeper Is airborne. Yes.
Why? The vitamin C pill? The vitamin C pill. It tastes good.
It's, you know, that time of year. You're getting sick.
Everyone's getting COVID. It's cold out.
You drink some airborne. You prevent illness with airborne.
Is that what Joe Rogan's pushing? Just a heads up. He sticks it up his ass.
I took too much Airborne to try to stop COVID and then I got COVID and also a kidney stone. I just blew a line of it.
Alright, something to keep in mind. Something to keep in mind.
What's up you fuckheads? This has been Danucci again. I'm back.
JMU is about to roll the fuck over North Dakota State University. Fuck Fargo.
Fargo sucks. Bad movie.
Bad TV show. Bad football team.
I'm starting this week. I'm starting O.J.
Simpson. He's a free man.
Free man off parole. Free to travel interstate.
Let me just say I've always loved O.J. I love the guy.
All of his work. He's a great guy.
O.J. Simpson They should check out his son They should look into his son Absolutely, they should look into his son My sitter, I'm sitting Drake I'm sitting Drake This weekend, study just came out Showing that Drake is the worst Person to listen to when you're running When you go for a jog It can add up to 15 minutes for each run because it decreases your running time by 6% on average.
Drake, slow runs. Damn.
Drizzy? Drake. Drake.
And then my sleeper is Jack Del Rio. Love Jack Del Rio.
Love all the stuff that he did down when he was in Jacksonville. You got Urban Meyer kicking his kickers.
Jack Del Rio used to just, he left an axe in the locker room with a stump and let them get injured on their own. It's called autonomy.
It's called empowering your players to do that to themselves instead going up and kicking them. Jack Del Rio, go have a big weekend.
I love it. Alright, what up, you fuckheads? It's Angelo Antipas.

My stardom is Steph Curry.

He's the GOAT three-point shooter.

Henry and I were there at the Mecca Tuesday night,

saw him break the record.

It was sick.

Hank said that he cried when Ray Allen came out.

I said I got tears in my eyes.

None came out at all.

My sit-em is Cole Pennington.

That's Chad Pennington's son.

He just signed with Marshall.

Holy fuck, we're old.

Chad Pennington's got a son in college.

Fuck me.

What the fuck?

Yeah, fuck me.

What the fuck?

And then my sleeper is friendship.

Because Hank and I went and saw the goat, Steph Curry.

That's just fucking friends, baby.

We're friends for life.

It was beautiful.

Absolutely beautiful.

I fucking love you, dude, even though you're a fucking asshole

who bets in my face, and I hope you fucking get hit by a bus,

but I love you.

I'm going to send you a polypluss right now for tonight.

Okay, let's fucking go, and if it loses,

then I hope you fall off a skyscraper. That good boys it's joey tribiani what's up joey hey joe trips hey how you doing huh how you doing uh my stardom is jumpsuits we got new jumpsuits in the in the bostil store it's jumpsuit january next month go get your jumpsuits that's myardom.
Everyone will all wear jumpsuits right now as fancy fuckboys. We got fuckboy jumpsuits.
My not sit him is Jackson Mahomes. My not sit him.
Jackson Mahomes did not get seated at a bar. He's trying to cancel a bar.
He's a total asshole. Fuck that guy.
Go small businesses. Jackson Mahomes gets not sat at the bar because he's an asshole.
Cloud chaser. Fuck Jackson Mahomes trying to get seated.
My sleeper is the kid. Wait, wait, wait.
What do you do? You try to get a seat out of the bar and they say, no, we're not going to see you. You're Jackson Mahomes.
To me, that sounds like anti-TikTok discrimination.

They said we survived the pandemic.

We can survive your ego.

Kill shot.

Boom.

And my sleeper is the cake boss.

Went to his bakery the other day.

Actually, very fire.

Very fire.

Oh, you think?

Very fire. No free ads.

Why the fuck would you think he sucks?

I thought he was hype. I thought he was hype.
Dude, he's? Very fine. No free ads.
Why the fuck would you think he sucks? I thought he was hype.

I thought he was hype.

Dude, he's the cake boss.

You can't arrest me.

I'm the cake boss.

Yeah, like cake boss.

It's in the name.

I thought it may have gotten, you know, like, like watered down now that he's a big star.

Next thing you know, you're going to be like salt based restaurants.

Actually, not that good.

Yeah.

Billy, come on. You don't like Guy Fieri either.
He's the big star. Next thing you know, you're going to be like, Salt Bay's restaurant's actually not that good.
Fuck you. Billy, come on.
You don't like Guy Fieri either? He's the cake boss. Whoa.
What was that face? You don't like Guy Fieri? Joey Tribbiani is pro-Guy Fieri. Okay.
And what about Billy Football? Pro-Guy Fieri. Okay.
Good. All right.
That was Fancy Fuck Boys. Let's get to Coach Prime, Deion Sanders, our coworker, off a huge, huge recruiting signing day.
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Okay, we now welcome on our co-worker, the man, the myth, the legend, the guy who has shocked the world, the college football world. It is Coach Prime, Deon sanders straight off of signing travis hunter the number one recruit in the country coach you shocked the world first and foremost i'd like to say uh i since i'm your co-worker i'm pretty sure i won employee of the month yes okay so i won't i won't the spot in the park, you know, in JSU colors and all of that, and I'm going to wear to work what I want to wear to work because I deserve that.
Okay, I agree. I agree.
So let's start from the top here. There's been a lot of rumors, things swirling around.
Can you talk to us how the last, like, 24 hours went with Travis Hunter with uh recruiting him and how you know what was what was that discussion like and getting him to say yeah you know what Jackson State's my home I'm coming well you gotta understand man we're just real honest uh forthright and the kid is a DB slash receiver that who better to talk to him about that than me um the kid that that wants to go to the next level and everything he does and we just click we communicate he loves fishing i love fishing you know he he loves the return he loves this he loved that i mean it was just synergy is almost like that kid really studied my game and really studied my life. And his mother and stepfather were unbelievable.
The connectivity that we had with them. I think that's what really sealed it.
When you win mama and you win the kids, shoot, that's it. It's a wrap.
It's over. And the two things they really wanted to understand.
Will we develop this young man, which we have Dennis Dermott,

defensive coordinator, National Football League,

Kevin Mathis, 10 years, National Football League,

and me, you know, helping out also.

So that's tremendous on the defensive side of the ball.

And now Denny, it's a quarterback like Shador on the offensive side of the ball.

That's pretty much a no-brainer.

And they want to know, are we going to take care of his housing?

I mean, where's he going to live?

Is that going to be suitable?

Cool. And how is he going to eat? We're going to feed him three meals a day and snacks.
So that's some of the bases that parents want to know, man. And we covered all that in what a believability because we're straight honest.
I love it. Coach, you stirred some things up yesterday.
Yeah, I had that. I called my shot.
Did I call my shot?

You called your shot ahead of time. You let the people know what was about to happen, and you made it happen.
So, obviously, you had good insight. You obviously had a good relationship with this kid that you trusted him.
There's a level of trust built in there. Your alma mater, FSU, there's some people at FSU that are not very happy with you right now that are threatening actually to sue us

because you took away the recruit that they thought that... FSU.
There's some people at FSU that are not very happy with you right now that are threatening

actually to sue us because you took away the recruit that they thought that they had. Do you have any message to the people at FSU? Yeah, first and foremost, there was no finances that changed from bar students.
Let's just get that straight. bar students that didn't pay one

hairy stankin' cent

to anybody.

I just get that straight bar students that didn't pay one hairy stankin cent to anybody and uh i just hate that when when a kid does what he wants to do and come to a historical black college you got to say there was some faultiness and some cheating involved not you bt pft but the nonsense that started from florida state fans or whatever that's where that started They know darn well They know darn well. First of all, we don't have money to pay like that.
That's number one. And we know darn well Dave ain't doing it.
Yeah, because that's the part that when people were accusing us, I pointed two things. One is on the pro football show on Tuesday, you told Dave and I you're going to shock the world world if you watch our reactions we didn't even know it was national signing day the next day and two right if we were paying for recruits uh wisconsin and michigan would have a lot better recruiting classes i would be taking care of that more than anything and i believe but it's absurd man to just think just because a young african-american kid chose the kid chose an African-American institution that it was some bull junk going on.
That behooves me and that really upsets me a bit. And then for me to see people, which was hilarious, guys, to see them burning my jersey that was in a glass case, that was so funny.
I'm serious, man. I fell off the dirt in bed laughing at that one, man.
Like that bothered me. It was incredible.
So I want to actually touch on the HBCU angle because I think that's the coolest part of this is that you've been at Jackson State for two years now. You've won Coach of the Year.
Not even a year. Not even a year.
Well, yeah, two seasons. Well, because you played in the spring.
But coach of the year twice, number one recruit.

You're playing on TV on Saturday in the Mercedes-Benz Dome, which is going to be a great game.

Jackson State versus South Carolina State.

What is like the – I mean, you've raised the profile of not only Jackson State, but HBCUs.

Have people in the community and people in the conference, have they reached out being like,

hey, we hate that you're getting all these good players, but this is good for all of us. No, they're happy.
I befriended a plethora of coaches, and they're happy, they're excited because they're getting them also. It's not just us.
They're getting them also. Now, instead of getting them four, they might not get the five, but they're getting the two, not two, the three stars all day long in the grad transfers from power fives.
They're getting them. So this is a good thing for not just Jackson State.
It's a great thing for everybody. Everybody's benefiting right now.
The article just came out. I think the city of Jackson made over $30 million.
That's crazy. Yeah, just in season.
It's crazy. So, Coach, I think one thing a lot of people are kind of missing in most of the media that I've seen is that they need to be giving him credit for trying to do something that takes a little bit of balls for him.
Like everyone's saying, oh, why is he going to an established school like Florida State? he's choosing to kind of be the first he's almost like a pioneer to be the first kid

who's like a five-star recruit

to elect to go to an HBCU to try to help with that mission of raising the profile there.

I feel like that's been lost.

He needs a lot of credit for having the balls to be the first person to maybe start this new wave.

Well, I like that.

That's well stated.

And I don't think he's going to be by himself.

I'm just telling you that he's not going to be alone. I promise you, he is not going to be alone.
You're going to hear about that. That's well stated.
And I don't think he's going to be by himself. I'm just telling you that.
He's not going to be alone. I promise you.
He is not going to be alone. You're going to hear about that real soon.
But you're exactly right, man. The kids should be applauded.
But you've got to understand, Florida State won Florida State until 88. The class that we came in in 88 changed the whole game for them.
Florida State was not a middle-of-the-road school, but a little bit better than that. You know, eight wins, something like that, several wins.
We changed the whole game for them Florida State was a not a middle of the road school but a little bit better than that you know eight wins something like that several wins we changed the whole scope of that with one during class so one class could do wonders and that's what we did at Florida State and that's what we're trying to do at Jackson State yeah so obviously like you being his coach that's a big factor in it so you're gonna you know nobody better to learn from than primetime than coach Deion Sanders when it comes to being a ball hawk. My question is, who's going to teach them how to tackle? Yeah.
Well, you know, hopefully with the way we're playing right now, they're not even getting to the secondary. The way this defense is playing, you know, we led the nation, not FCS, FBS.
We led the nation in sacks this year. Whoa.
We get to that ball. Yeah, we did.
Look it up. it up look it up we led the nation and we should say so there is an element that i think that you deserve a ton of credit for and this is where barstool does come in you guys have your documentary coming out at the end of february our guy dana beers has been following you around for the entire season it's a great so they had a season one You should go watch it on YouTube if you haven't.
Season two is coming out. That part has to be a little bit of the pitch because you're doing things differently where you're saying, look, I'm going to raise the profile of you by having a constant documentary going on every single season.
You guys are going to get the limelight just as much as, you know, if you go to a different school, you might be – I don't know, you might be on the bench, you might not get talked about. You're getting talked about the second you show up.
Dan, you're 100% correct. I mean, there's cameras on me right now.
There's cameras at every practice. There's cameras that follow them home to their dorms as well as their apartments to really understand them and their lifestyle and how they live, who they are.
That was phenomenal, season one. Dana Beers is doing a great job of being Dana Beers and Dana Spielberg at the same time.
Doing a great job with a beer here and there. With a beer here and there.
But he's focused. He's locked in.
He's slim fat right now. He's not fat, but he's slim fat, you know.
But I love him. What he's doing for us and for these young men and women is phenomenal, what he's doing.
And has Travis Hunter had an opportunity to meet Dana Beers yet? How involved in the recruitment of Travis was Dana? He is not. We're going to try to keep them apart for a while because you just can't just sneak him up to Dana Beers.
You got to build up to Dana. It's like building up to Glenny Balls.
You just can't just rush Glenny Balls. You got to build up to Dana Beard.
You got to build up. It's like building up to Glenny Balls.
You just can't rush Glenny Balls. You got to build up to it.
Build up to Balls. My last question, I know you got to go because you're a very busy guy.
You got the game tomorrow. This is going to air on Friday.
The game tomorrow at Mercedes Benz Dome. Give us a little preview.
What are we looking for when we tune in? Because I'm going to be watching. Jackson State versus South Carolina State.
You better not be punted on fourth and one. Well, we hadn't the swag hadn't beat the MEAC, I think since 2016.
So that's in the back of our minds. We traditionally start out slow.
We don't want to do that. We want to start out fast.
Those guys are going to run the ball. They're going to try to run the ball and play great defense, and we're going to try to just tear the back out of them.
We're going to try to exploit every weakness that they have, and it's going to be tough running the ball on us because we sent everybody and we play a lot of men. It's going to be a great game.
You know, the Dome is sold out. It's been sold out for weeks now, and we're happy, but I'm getting ready to go into the crib.
I can't wait, you know, to see the people because I've been out. I haven't been out.
I've been so busy just to be amongst the people and feel the energy. Guys, I'm going to tell you, I know you guys have a wonderful bowl game in Arizona, but you really got to come to one HBCU game and feel the atmosphere.
It's crazy. Like, it's just the bands, the pageantry.'s it's unbelievable and Travis came to our homecoming which was 60,000 there and it was ridiculous that's that should be mentioned by the way because Jackson State having 60,000 people like there are a lot of power five programs that one don't have the capacity for 60,000 and to never get 60,000 in a regular year.

And I did a bad job there because people need to watch the game.

Oh yeah.

It's on ABC ever heard of it.

So everyone in the world has this.

If you're not watching ABC noon on Saturday and coach prime off of getting the

number one recruit in the country,

you're not a football guy and you don't like,

you're not,

you're not supporting us and coach prime.

Amen.

Amen.

Hey guys,

you guys got to understand Barstow's done a lot for us.

Thank you. recruit in the country.
You're not a football guy and you don't like, you're not supporting us and Coach Prime. Amen.
Amen. Hey guys, you guys gotta understand, Barstool has done a lot for us, a lot for this program, and a lot for me personally.
So I appreciate you guys immensely and keep up the good work. And just tell the people you did not pay Travis Hunter, and I'm good.
Yeah, we did not pay Travis Hunter. That's your first.
I just bought's totally different. If you choose to, can you take care of my two sons that's on the team first, please? Yes.
Yes. Yeah, I'm sure they need it, Deion.
Yeah, yeah. But Coach Prime, thanks.
We're so – like this is so awesome, man. You shocked the world.
And I know it sounds weird to say that I'm proud of you because you're the greatest of all time at your position and a Hall of Famer. But I am proud and I'm proud of Jackson State, so this is going to be awesome to watch.
Appreciate it. Proud to be your teammate, man.
God bless. All right.
Thanks, man. See you, Dion.
Thanks, Dana. Oh, little post-interview with Dana Beers here, exclusive on Pardon My Take.
He has been on Pardon My Take before. Remember that time you talked about the little book that you kept where you jerked off into it or something all right i've been on part of my take twice so this is my third one uh but the first time yeah about the time i jerked off accidentally when i was on a lawnmower is that what you're talking about oh no i don't remember that but tell that story that's a different oh no the first time i i came was from a lawnmower i was just vibrations uh don't know why I'm talking about that.
I've been doing so well about not being a weirdo for the last four months. The second I get on the airwaves, I'm fucked.
That's fine, though. That's a football guy, though.
That's a dude that just loves grass, Dana. Yeah.
Yeah. Well, Dana, from your perspective, give it to us.
The documentaries come out in February. How crazy has it been the last week with this Travis Hunter stuff and how well Jackson State's been playing? All right, serious, Dana, for a second.
So I've been here probably, I think, 10 months of the year, and I had no idea about HBCUs. I had no idea about that culture, and I have so much understanding of it now and so much knowledge of it that it's like if you aren't paying attention to this world and this culture, like you're missing out.
So every day is different. I had no idea on Wednesday.
I thought it was going to be an easy day of just like we're going to show up to Atlanta, check out the facility and just relax a little bit. And then we get the news.
So it's like you kind of just have to pair with Coach Prime where you don't know what's going to happen next so we got a little bit of an inkling like hey something big is happening tomorrow so we got our cameras ready we got our audio guys ready we got everything ready so it's always just staying prepared and like you never know what's going to happen wow i just smart sounded fucking smart boys holy shit until the very end yeah no you just kind of ruined it at the at the last second you sabotaged well and also your your comment was hbcu it's like crazy down here you

just never know when you got to have your camera ready yeah if you boil it down that's what so

so do you feel any additional pressure knowing that you're gonna have to produce a really good

documentary because all eyes are on you like you can't you can't fuck this up dana um not really

Thank you. pressure knowing that you're going to have to produce a really good documentary because all eyes are on you like you can't you can't fuck this up Dana um not really pressure more just like I believe in myself to do it because I've done it already if it was like I'm going in fresh like season one where all these big stories are popping up I would have been a little pressure but we already did this So it's like we know what we're doing.
It's like clockwork at this point. And it's just like exciting the more like these big stories happen because it just makes more people want to watch.
So no, no pressure. A little pro tip for you as a cameraman right now.
You got to work on your angles a little bit. Yeah, there you go.
Go up higher. Don't actually Big Cat taught me that like four years ago.
He taught me that four years. I never never listened yeah you don't want to go low that's the like what she sees versus what you see meme

in real life yeah it is what it is uh dana last question so uh we couldn't ask coach prime this

but jackson state minus 10 and a half thoughts i'm not getting myself in trouble what i'm not

saying what just tell us i mean you know i mean you know I'll say something stupid No, I'm asking for your opinion How good they are You're going to get me in trouble I'm going to say something and I'm going to get fired So I'm shutting my mouth I have no comment on the situation for the line Do they look really good? Or do they look They're sweeping They swept swept through the swack. They're fucking unstoppable.
So they look good. And do they usually like do they usually beat teams by like two touchdowns or just one touchdown? Two touchdowns.
Might be my game of the year. I don't want that.
I do not want that pressure, no. BK, you can do your HBCU game of the year.
Yeah, that's true. All right, that's it.
Officially, my HBCU game of the year. Jackson State run is 10 and a half Saturday afternoon.
All right, I'm going to get a lot of tweets probably if that doesn't cover it, but I'll take it. All right, okay.
Thank you, Dana. Appreciate it.
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Before we get to Fyre Fest, big announcement. Hockey is on.
And no matter the city, no matter the team, no matter the game, whether it's face-off or penalty shots, regular season or playoffs, win or lose, no matter what happens, no matter where it happens, New Amsterdam Vodka is there. listen okay uh fire fest is a.
By the way, we will have next week's a little weird. We will have a show on Monday and Wednesday.
We're going to be on Zoom until COVID. We all get the clear, but we will be there Monday, Wednesday.
We will not have a show on Friday because it is Christmas Eve. And then we'll be back the following Monday.
So two shows next week. Get ready.
Two shows next week. Firefest the week.
Hank, why don't you lead us off? No best of this year either. Kind of a weird year with the schedule, but that's just how it worked out.
Yep. We didn't have any good things on the show this year, so we couldn't do a best of.
I still think we should do a worst of. I think it would be great.
I think I would love that. Yeah.
Maybe we'll add that to Wednesday show. Just a quick worst of.
I'll think of it. Yeah.
Wait, what would go in? That was our worst. There's one name that we can.
We can't say we're not allowed to say what we can say, but he has blocked on Twitter and we also don't. We don't want a big oil catastrophe anytime soon.
There's another name that came in and we didn't we didn't even air the interview

like two years ago oh no yeah no that was like a week ago a person who was on his phone the entire interview yeah we wouldn't do that yeah we wouldn't do that no we can hear the debate that we that we had about whether or not you could dunk a free throw yeah that was definitely in the worst stuff.

Maybe that's

still think you

can multiple

years ago as

well.

My fire fest

is that I'm

saying. Yeah, that was definitely in the worst of.
Maybe that will be it. I still think you can.

I think that was multiple years ago as well.

My fire fest is that I'm such a negative person that I've been trying to be positive on Twitter. I wake up every day and shoot off a positive tweet and just try and tweet positive things throughout the day.

And I've had more than three people at work come up and be like, what's going on? Are you okay? And I'm like, what do you mean? I'm just being positive. And they're like, what's, like, what's, what's the joke there? I'm like, I'm just a positive person.
So I have had to do some reflecting. I realized maybe I am a little bit too negative, too much.
So I think I'm a positive guy, but I guess no, no, no you're saying when you're when you say positive things people are like oh this is a bit yeah like people are like what what's like what why are you tweeting this but wait that's a great day to have a day is that is it not isn't it a bit no i'm just putting it out no it no it's not a bit now now you've double you've double bit yourself all i've done all i've done is is said to you guys like i'm a positive person and i'm going to show people how positive i am and i'm trying to do that no no you started you started doing a bit but then you got upset because people so obviously knew that it was a bit because it's so different from your normal personality. Now you're mad that people don't think that your bit is not a bit.
You're you've bit off more than you can chew. Uh-huh.
I'm just trying to get to that book, the power of positive thinking you got it from here. You like sent me a link to it.
I think I may have just sent you the ebook. So no, I don't remember that.
It is hard when this happens. Hey, this happens to me with our co-worker Brendan Walker.
I'll give him a compliment. He'll be like, what's what are you doing right now? I'm like, no, can I just give you a compliment? So yeah, you have to do a little self reflection that everyone thinks you just being positive once means that you're doing a bit, which you are.
No, I'm going to be so fucking positive for the rest of my life. So there's a bit.
Yeah, this is your life is a bit now. The bit is not stopping.
Your life is not a bit. If being positive, yeah, the bit is I'm a positive person in my whole life all the time.
I think I think Hank experienced so much positivity when he's watching his Patriots and his Tom Brady's play football that anytime that he's not actively watching those, he's just, he's disgusted by the lack of excellence elsewhere in the universe. No, I mean, you guys are the most excellent, you know, friends I could have.
Thanks. I love it.
Yeah. Not a bit.
No, it's not right. It's not.
I know you said, you said it was so much enthusiasm. It's's not a bit i you're telling me like that's a fact i'm well aware factor fiction fact say something positive about billy this will be the test i love billy that's that's the ultimate like true serum ken hank say something possible i was gonna send billy a snarky text message about not being on the zoom earlier and i didn't because i like him so much oh that doesn't count as being positive just being not negative i think it does i i think it's it's very funny that billy is to the point where he's like sending hank self-improvement books that's that's really really a slap in the face when Billy football is like, Hey, here's something that might help you get your life together.
All right. Well, we, we, we welcome positive Hank.
We'll see how it goes. Yes.
Thank you for having me. You sounded so pained to just say, to admit that.
All right. PFT.
Well, I've got I've got COVID.

So that's kind of a built in fire fest, which we also discussed.

But honestly, I'm kicking its ass right now.

I've got this.

I've got my my Hofbrauhaus boot.

So I'm filling this up with water and then just I'm yugging water out of this all the time.

Just try to flush this out of my system.

But I guess the other fire fest of the week is that I got an ocular migraine the other day and it sounds like way worse than it is. Basically, it's just my vision felt like it was on drugs for about 30 minutes where the outside of my right eye was just wavy.
It was just like wavy. And it was almost like I was hallucinating for a little bit.
I looked it up and it was like, yeah, this is what's known as an ocular migraine. It doesn't cause any pain whatsoever.
It just makes me feel cool for a while. So I'm hoping that I get another one soon, I guess.
We're just not in great shape. That's debatable.
Like spiritually. Positive Hank, yes.
Billy is in fantastic shape. He's's in great shape no billy would even admit billy billy does not have the mass he'd like to have right now no he's being negative i'm being positive for him billy's strong as an ox i'm well i'm still strong but i'm out of shape january 1st i'm kicking into gear let's go yeah this is gonna be our year 2022 we're 2022.
We're going to be in perfect health. I'm going to get a six pack this year.
You know what? I think you are. Me too.
Let's go, Hank. You think he is or you're going to get one too, Hank? Both.
We're both doing it. Me and Hank, workout buddies.
For the record, I got one when Hank said he was going to get one. And then I stopped.
You just didn't show us. I didn't want to be a hoe.
Yeah. You didn't want to be a hoe? No.
All right. Hey, we're getting six packs for sure.
I also had one too. I just don't want to show you guys.
I will. I can't join you in six packs.
I'd probably have to lose about 60 pounds. I'm hoping by the next football season, start of next football season, I would like to be 215 pounds.
That sounds good. I hope it's a lot of my goal.
I like that. I think you can do it.
It's far enough in the future that you could have said literally any number. You can also tell it's a good goal when your goal ends with a question mark.
Well, and so I say 215. I actually think if I were to get a six pack, I would have to be 190 pounds.
So I'd still be 25 pounds away from a six pack, but also 25 pounds away from my current weight.

So, Billy, do you know the math on that?

Like, how light do Hank and I have to get in order to get six packs?

Well, unfortunately, you may never be able to get a six pack.

All right. Fuck you, Billy.

You're too negative.

No, I'm just saying it's not genetics.

It's just like you may have too much extra skin.

What if COVID melts away some of this extra skin I got?

It could. Yeah.
When I had COVID COVID not to brag, but I beat COVID. I was like, Oh, this is going to be great because I can't taste anything.
I'm going to lose so much weight. Turns out it's the opposite because the minute you can taste everything again, you just eat so, so much.
Yeah. I still got my sense of taste.
So hopefully that doesn't go away. I'm sure I'll be fine.
Just a little like a little sore throat. Shout out Nancy Reagan.
Quickly, though, if you do die, what do you want us to do? All right. If I die, I don't really have anything to give you guys.
I guess who wants my guitars? That's really all that I have to give away. Hank.
Hank learn guitar. Hank, you get all my guitars.
Billy, you get... Actually, Jake, you get my JNCOs.
I think you look sick in those. Yep.
And then Billy... Can I cut off your hair? No, no.
I knew you were going to ask for something ridiculous. Absolutely not.
I just want to shave off all your hair and put it for an exhibit. What the fuck is wrong what the fuck that's an nft he wants to make money off your hair 100 makes one wants to make money off your glasses i want the glasses can i get your glasses collection yeah you can get my glasses collection thank you appreciate that and billy can just go fuck himself yeah billy you're not taking in my body that's what billy what billy wants to harvest my body.
Yeah, he wants to do science. I want to harvest your organs.
He wants to eat my liver like liver king. What's up, Primal's PFT's liver? Good luck.
That's probably toxic by now, Billy. It's going to kill you.
My fire fest is I'm addicted to Twitter spaces. So we can put I've been in a bunch.
I didn't realize that thing that you can click on at the top of Twitter. That was Twitter spaces.
Apparently, it's been around for a long time. It was something that when the fire Mike Norvell Twitter space popped up on Wednesday after Travis Hunter committed to Jackson State, I hopped in there, got kicked out a bunch.
Now I'm just it's it's it's message boards come to life. I've joined an F1 Twitter space where they were protesting for Lewis Hamilton.
I joined a truth about vaccines Twitter space. They're electric.
It is my addiction. I unfortunately don't know when I'm going to kick this addiction.
But from here and probably for the next like three weeks, I will just be spending most of my free time in twitter spaces uh asking ridiculous questions you could put in liam's gonna put in a couple of my twitter spaces the last couple days but yeah this is gonna be a bad addiction i i can already feel like this is one where like i'm gonna ignore my kids they're gonna be running around with like scissors and be like wait sorry. I'm in this Twitter space about like milk products and how they might be poisoning us asking ridiculous questions.
I've seen the Twitter space thing pop up. It's always just it's intimidating.
Yeah, I clicked on one last night. I didn't know where I was.
It's it's a weird part of the Internet. It is.
And so I will kick this addiction, but I will ride it out as well. It's similar to my periscope hopping during the pandemic.
I have a feeling that this one's going to – I'm going to have to ride this out. It's going to be about three or four weeks that I just hop into random Twitter spaces anytime I have a free second.
All right, Billy. So this kind of has to do with our road the Superbowl type thing.
I'm really regretting fucking around with my picks for the first, like half of the season. Waiting fucking around.
What is this? You had to, you had a strategy. It was extremely well thought out.
I really should have taken it. I never thought I would actually be in last place.
But now that I'm here, you know, I really have to turn up these next four weeks. I've already started to sort of plan the route I want to take to the Super Bowl.
So, you know, a couple key stops being the I-90 truck stop in Iowa, the largest truck stop in the world. That's definitely a spot I want to stop.
But just sort of playing it out, accepting reality that I'm probably going to have to make that drive, but also trying to climb out of there. But I'm sort of accepting my fate.
God bless you, Billy, because you thinking like, I just messed around too much on these picks as if you had the right answers and you weren't using them. Well, like, for example, picking the Jets nine times is my underdog.
Like, I was like, oh, that's funny. Like, maybe they'll win one of these.
Like, they can't actually lose every single one I pick. At least Firefest the week is.
So I fucked around and I found out. Yeah, pretty much.
What are the Jets against the spread on the season? Bad. Really? Yeah'm going to look right now.
I mean, he took them seven times. He's one in six as the underdog.
And they're three and ten overall against the spread. Yes.
Wow. So it was kind of bit.
Yeah, that's okay. All right.
So now I should agree with you. Your bit didn't work out too well.
Yeah. It's yeah it's also very funny though that billy had like this big strategy that he had where he would put serious work into try trying to go exactly 500 every week and rearrange his picks to try to engineer that outcome but also one out of every four picks every week he was just throwing away on the jets yes yes yes all right jake wrap us up yeah so obviously besides the whole covet situation there's college basketball games getting canceled too which stinks um i've been tagged multiple times on twitter because the mets signed a player with 43 letters and people are asking me to pronounce it and i have no clue i can't find any guy whatsoever i can give give it a shot, though.
Yeah, go for it. Mirio JC, Ratchin Candare, Regine, Tadeo Benita.
All right. What does he play? Have you guys seen it? No.
That's minor league signing. Damn.
I saw it. Pray for Howie Rose.
I instantly thought about Jake when I saw it. Actually, it was that name.
And then last week in the Army-Navy game with Diego Fago. Yeah.
Good job. Will asked me to confirm that one.
Yeah. It would be very funny if he became a major in the military, though.
And you saw his name. I'm just saying it'd be funny.
That's a major boy named Sue complex. Well, he's in the army.
So he's, yeah, he's probably a tough motherfucker. Yeah.
Navy. Okay.
That's our show. We'll see everyone Monday.
We'll be on zoom, unfortunately, but we're going to make do, we're going to power through. People will talk about this.
This is almost like a mini grit week. People will talk about the time we persevered and overcame COVID

again. So see

everyone Monday. Love you guys.

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See you on Monday.

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Say up to me. It's no better to be safe than sorry.
Say up to me. It's no better to be safe than sorry.
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He's shying away. I'll be coming for you anyway.
Take on me. Take me on.

I'll be gone in a day. Thank you.