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Boys! Boys! Now in the street there is violence. I We'll be it higher.
Oh, we're gonna rock down to Electric Avenue. It's part of my take.
Presenting by Marshall Sports. Welcome to part of my take.
Today is Friday, November. I almost said October, November 5th.
And it is officially Daylight Savings Weekend. It really is this time.
It actually is. And so for that reason and that reason only, we're betting against the Packers.
Yes, but it is. Also, Carson Wentz is back and the Colts are back.
Or did they play the Jets? Well, first of all, before we get into that, I think we should take the time. We don't celebrate it enough on this podcast.
We don't

really acknowledge milestones that

frequently. We should say

it is our 500th episode. Oh,

hell yes. Congratulations, guys.

And on top of 500th

episode, Sam Ellinger

played tonight for a snap.

So, Billy, what a

conflict of interest. Billy's wearing his

homemade...

It's a store-bought Zach Wilson

jersey that has become a homemade

I'm going to kick the shit out of the Jets regardless tonight, it felt like. But, Billy, what did you feel when your favorite team was going up against your favorite quarterback? Well, at first, when making the jersey into a Mike White jersey, I realized it was way too easy to turn the two into a five.
And I must have realized at that point that something bad was going to happen because it was starting off so well. Okay.
And then it went really, really badly. Yeah, because that's like, yeah, the night was like, oh, this is perfect.
I was like, whoa, you just switched two sides in the twos of five. They should send that jersey to the Hall of Fame.
Mike White's rookie jersey. Has there ever been a more hilarious jersey to have in the Pro Football Hall of Fame than Mike White's jersey from last week? Yeah.
I think that one would be the only funnier one. I mean, there were so many good vibes.
They were wearing the same black pants as last week. A lot of high hopes going in.
What were you going to say, Hank? Come on. Jets fans were like freaking out about these jerseys before the game and they were like gross.
You don't get it. It was just first time.
They were just like a white jersey with black pants. Yeah.
We haven't done that before. That's pretty cool.
It was the same black pants from last week. They didn't wash them.
With the same quarterback. Yeah, but the Colts counter that by going color rush, which is just completely one-upping it.
The same black pants with the same quarterback, guys. Answer the question.
Sam Ellinger. I was so hyped when I got in.
Yeah, you didn't even know. You weren't even in the room.
No, I was right behind the room taking a call, trying to figure out what was going on with Mike White, who was doing business deals in the background. But yeah, this was a clowning and a shit pumping.
No, it was a clowning. It's definitely a clowning.
And a shit pumping. I think it's more of a clowning because they threw a touchdown pass to their offensive linemen.
And when the refs get in on the clown show, when they do the old offsides, false start on everybody except for the center. That's a clown show.
I think actually it was the double because I think first half was a shit pumping, 28-10. Second half was clowning Jonathan Taylor ripping off like an 80-yard run.
The false start, the PFT said. So I think you got clowned and shit pumped.
Well, shit pumpings turn into a clown show once the clown shit happens.

Yeah, exactly. Got it.

The big winner of tonight for the Jets has got to be Mike White, though, because he

looked decent on a couple drives

that he was in. Everything we said, we said

when you're a backup quarterback in the NFL,

the best thing you can do is have an awesome

game and then immediately get injured

and secure your

status as an NFL quarterback for 10 years. White I'll remember Mike White Mike White put in a reminder don't forget about Mike White May 24th he's going to be a backup quarterback I feel like on the Texans for about eight years yeah he threw a touchdown too in the second game so he two good games.
Yeah. Yep.
Well, no, he actually had three because then he played the second half of the... Right, right.
Yeah, so I don't think he did that well. Okay.
So we'll just keep it to this. I have a big question.
What the fuck, Tennessee? How did the Titans lose to this team? The Jets' defense stinks. And to Billy's credit...
What about the Bengals? They do hit. They hit hard.
Wait, what about the Bengals? Yeah, how did the Bengals do this? They hit hard, but the problem is they hit hard like 12 yards down the field when it's a rushing play. Although...
The rush defense stinks. The Bengals, I was actually thinking about this earlier today, and I know that it's contradictory to what we're about to do with our picks because I took the Bengals versus the Browns.
But the Bengals, I think we need to put in our tickler file that they're like Ben Affleck, your suspect in Goodwill Hunting because the Bengals have lost to the Jets and the Bears. That's bad.
Well, they do the thing where they play down to their competition. Yeah.
Like the Jets play up to their competition when it's a really good team. Yeah.
So the Jets, yeah, the Jets somehow have two wins against against two good teams but they got clown showed and shit pumped tonight uh I'm backing on Carson Wentz how can you not be after this performance I do have a question though and earmuffs the city of Philadelphia because I know they will not like me bringing this up although I think they think about it constantly why are the Colts not sitting Carson Wentz in the second half of blowouts because if you remember the Colts if Carson Wentz gets 75 percent of the Colts snaps this season their second round pick that they traded for Carson Wentz becomes a first round pick why in this game that's so clearly if I were the Col, I would sit Carson Wentz and I would fast snap it.

I would do it in a hurry-up offense to try to get as many snaps in

in the second half so that the percentages get off.

They probably want him to get injured so that they can get Sam Ellinger

at the future in the game.

Got it.

Get him some reps.

Wouldn't that make sense?

It would absolutely make sense.

I think it's kind of counterintuitive to Frank Reich, though,

because Frank Reich, he seems like the kind of guy that's's just like he's been hurt so many times in the past that he's like no lead is safe in the nfl well also he probably is like gonna figure this out in week 16 be like oh shit we should have we should probably yeah what have i done but that's like this this goes back to like if you had to say what would bill belichick do like the cultts were beating the Texans 31-3 earlier this year. They beat them 31-3.
I think Carson Wentz took every single snap. Whenever they're blown out either way, even when it's like the game is a two-touchdown score game and there's like three minutes left, just snap it and knee it.
You should have someone else take all the knees. Yes.
Because every snap counts. Use every play that you have to get Carson Wentz out of the game.
I think it's too late now. I think he's done so many snaps.
I saw the stat. I think it's like something around 525 of 540 this year.
So that's going to be tough to get back down to 75%, but man, they kind of screwed this because this game,

Carson Wentz didn't have to play the second half for the

Colts to win. They should even take it into account

towards the end of second halves

when they have a backup in to just

run a shitload of plays. That's what I'm saying.
Organ offense.

Designed to get four yards

of carry and then just keep the change.

Get as many plays in as you can.

Run a hurry up offense at

the end of the play. Get as many snaps in to

throw the percentages off. Go for it on fourth down.

I actually think that they're playing Carson Wentz more because they want to get him confident. They're trying to get him into that rhythm.
I get it. And he looked.
There were times tonight when Carson Wentz looked good, really good. Like he's getting redder.
His face gets red. He gets angrier looking.
Yeah. And it's like that reminds me of the old school Carson Wentz when he gets in the game and he's not scared but he does have that chip on his shoulder I love the play call that they had when they threw the pass to Pinter the extra offensive lineman there because it's a perfect play for Carson Wentz it's designed for him to roll out to the right look like he's panicking for a while but the entire time it was designed to come back to the left for a touchdown pass and nobody pulls off the deer in the headlights look better than Carson Wentz.
He's born with it. He's awesome at that.
Run as many plays as you can where it's designed freakouts for Carson Wentz. Yeah, I just wish they – I think it would be a fun little wrinkle to every Colts game of like how many snaps are they going to try to sneak in someone other than Carson Wentz.
Like they ran Wildcat with Jonathan Taylor at the goal line. That counts.
How many snaps can they sneak in, offensive snaps? It's almost like a pitcher you're trying to do on a pitch count. Can we get Carson Wentz right at 75%? Carson Wentz, now there's questions of whether he's a great leader in the locker room.
I'll leave that, you know, whatever, in Philly. But Carson Wentz would be – it would actually help him.
If the Colts were like, hey, we're going to try to take you out for some snaps. We're going to get you another offensive lineman next year with the first-round pick.
I want to look up what happened on that play that they brought Sam in for. Did Carson Wentz go out to wide receiver? And if so, does that count as him taking a snap if he's in a wide receiver? I don't think it does.
I don't think it counts as him taking a snap, but maybe I'll have to check my Carson Wentz snap log. Yeah, we'll have to look at the verbiage of his contract.
I'm sure there's a Twitter account that's just checking all of his snaps. There's absolutely a Philly Twitter account that has an up-to-date every single game Carson Wentz snap log.
We should also address the big question that Troy Aikman had because he's talking about

how the Jets are going to turn this whole thing around.

He said they brought in Salah to change the culture.

What happens first?

Do you change it?

Well, then he goes, the culture usually changes by winning football games.

That's the easiest way to do it.

So what comes first?

Winning football games are changing the culture to a winning football culture.

Can you have a winning football culture without actually winning football games? Yes. I think you can.
I think you can. It's tough to pull off.
Yes. I think you've got to do the, there's that year where you can change the culture by losing close games.
Yeah. The Lions kind of had a little bit of that at the start of the year.
There was some culture change. Losing closer games than you would have expected them to lose.
Yeah, like if you can, it's basically you can change the culture. A five-win team can change the culture by being in a lot of games and then finishing in the month of December like three and one.
That's a change of culture. You finish strong.
Yeah, you have good week of practice. Yeah.
The team wants to stick around for the bye week. If you try to give them a victory Monday, they're like, no, we don't want the day off.
And have someone, some talking head, maybe even us, call you the team no one wants to face in December. Yeah, a frisky team.
Yeah. A team with a lot to prove.
A team that could do some damage and play spoiler. So, yeah, that is.
It's a tough thing to do, but I think Troy is right that you don't have to win to change the culture to a winning culture. So which losing culture right now is being changed to a winning culture? Losing culture changed to a winning culture.
Yeah. Ooh.
Well, there's a winning culture being changed to a losing culture on a few teams. I think the Vikings have that going.
But sometimes you don't know when the culture is going from losing to winning last year i'm saying yeah vikings going winning to losing but last year would you have expected that the bangles culture was being changed when they stunk i think the bangles culture definitely yeah it changed over last year um yeah because of joe burrow he's he's a culture changer you know what i'm saying now jamar chase and Chase. And Jamar Chase.
Those guys change culture.

Basically change the culture themselves.

I think the culture in New England is changing into a winning culture this year.

Yeah, fine. Just going to call that one.

Very true.

I'm looking right now.

I'm going to tell you.

I'm going to give you a definitive.

The Chargers.

The Chargers are trying to change their culture.

I feel like the Chargers have changed their culture.

They're 4-4.

The Chargers are 4-4?

4-3. 4-3.
Okay. But still, they're 4-3.
Chiefs. Chiefs are changing to a losing culture.
Yeah, I'm looking. I'm doing a quick peruse of who's changing into a losing culture.
Maybe the Raiders. I know they have by record.
The culture is not great in the Raiders. Jake, you're going to get us canceled again.
Colts. No.
The Browns are struggling with their culture. They're trying to find a way to change to a winning culture.
They did for like a half a season. Yes.
The Browns are a team. They can't help themselves.
The Browns are like, to use myself as an example, the Browns last year were when I lose like 20 pounds for one month a year and everyone's like, damn, you look good. I didn't actually change my diet culture.
I just had a nice little winning streak one season. But I'll go back to being a losing culture.
How's that going, by the way? Not good. We got milkshakes.
At what point do you want us to try and hold you accountable? December? December? I text him for a salad every day. You approved one of four days.
Can I tell you something? Paul Monitor Marsh just fucking dunked on you. And I also...
You approved the salad. Are we in the trust tree? Yeah.
You didn't eat it? I threw it in the trash. No way! Did it taste bad? No, I didn't even open it.
it we've had barstool bites here every single day this week i've been eating chicken wings every day i threw away my salad yesterday and ate the chili dude i saw the salad and it was just sitting on my desk just picked it up and threw it right in the trash can i can i give you some bother asking no i was like i don't want this salad give you some advice. Just get soup every day.
Yeah. I've been eating soup.
Pounds melt away. I tried that on Monday.
I got jambalaya. Yeah.
Yeah. That will happen, too.
You got to go for the non-cream-based soups and something relatively healthy. Listen.
Loaded baked potato soup, maybe. You know, I'll get on it.
We'll just go crash. We'll go crash diet.
That's healthy, right? We'll go crash diet. That's bad foreshadowing, I think, for what you're doing it for.
Oh, Jesus Christ, yeah. We'll do a nice, easy landing diet.
That's good, good. That's just very soft and pillowy.
Yeah, I think that I got to be 230 by the time I get back from Thanksgiving. That's a dangerous date to give yourself.
You should not anchor any diet. Uh-oh, Carson Wentz might have just gotten hurt.
He might. He should have been taking.
He got hit in the nuts. That's hilarious.
That's actually very funny. They got hit in the nuts.
But they shouldn't have him in. They should have someone else taking the snaps right now all right uh yeah december or sorry december 1st i have to weigh in at 230 then i'm in i'm fine because 10 pounds in a month is like you know me i can do that easy that's easy just don't eat that was pretty simple make sure i bring my backpack home yep thank you jake jake's just my walking reminder.
And your laptop. It's just right off.
What was that for?

He told me to remind me.

To remind me to bring my backpack home. You don't bring your backpack home? Most days, no.
But today is like, I'm not going to be here tomorrow, and we're going to be in Hoboken on Sunday. Jake is your Gary.
If you're Selena Gomez. Wait, what's her name? Selena Myers.
Selena Myers. I always call her.

If you're Selena Myers, Jake is your bag man.

Yeah.

He gets my salads.

I throw in the trash.

Jake and I are running like a mini version of Veep these days.

We're just physical comedy everywhere.

Jake, why don't you send us into our next ad with a chop?

Do you want to say anything?

I never performed a chop. I just sang it.
Okay. Sideways chop.
All right. Let's get to our weekend preview.
Breaking moves. We were literally about to get to the ad and the rest of the show.
We were... That was great.
We were ready to get up. We just had finished.
We were about to leave, but we got a gami. Yeah, boys.
Three out of four weeks. Three out of four weeks? You're on a hot streak.
That's nice, Jake. The thing about the gamis is one day there will be no more gamis left to conquer.
And then you will leave. I don't know about that.
No, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
They might change the scoring rules. Yeah.
No, mathematically, you're going to run out of Gamis. That's fact.
I think if they add the kickoff through the uprights one point, we could see some higher scores. You think that's being added? Maybe in the next 40 years.
Yeah, like a... That'd be sick.
Yeah, I guess. Yeah, you're right.
You know what? The game is always evolving. Yeah.
With the way the game's going, there'll be games that were like 194. I mean, you're basically chasing the 6-1 dragon.
That's what you need. At that point, shut the whole damn thing down.
Rams 38, Giants 11, Cardinals 31, Texans 5. Colts 45, Jets 30.
Unbelievable. I can't believe that 45-30 is a gami.
I know. That's the beauty of the gamis.
It is. It's the ones you never expect.
And thank God the Colts actually covered because that was – there's something about a backdoor cover drive where you have like – there was like three fake interceptions on that drive. Three interceptions on the last drive.
You're like, we're fucked. I was in the mindset of just like, I hope the Jets find a way to tie this game now.
I'd given up. It seemed like such a sure backdoor cover.
Yes, but Gami, cover, only loser here as always, Billy Football. That's it.
He's the only one who lost in this room, right? Yeah, I'd say so. Did you just? Jake just chopped again.
No. I literally said.
I literally him. I chopped with him.
Yeah, you did. Well, he cancels each other out.
I'd like to get out in front of this. I thought I was handshaking.
So did I. As I said, I prefaced it with handshake.
You should preface it next time by saying as a man of faith. Can we get the.
Castellanos free agent. Yep.
Can we get that clip, Liam, of him doing the handshake, just ice on Jake, and then also put the Braves chant behind it? Put his audio from... Just for a safe measure, do it again, Jake.
Yeah, yeah, real quick. All right, handshake.
Do another handshake. Handshake.
Nope. Handshake.
Nope. It's a little mini chop.
Okay, let's get to the week nine. The slap chop.
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Okay. Boys, I'm going to say something that no one here is going to like.
We're halfway through the season. God damn it.
Week 9. I didn't want to say it.
No, we're not. No, we're not.
Playoffs. Playoffs.
Regular season. Not there yet.
We're like a third of the way through the season. Please don't do that.
I just want to get everyone prepped. I want to get everyone prepped.
It's fucked up. We also, before we get to our picks, Aaron Rodgers should be in jail.
All those that agree say aye. Aye, aye, aye, aye.
He should be. That was a lot of eyes, guy.
I almost feel like jail is too good of a punishment for Aaron Rodgers. He should be traded to the washington football team a fate worse than prison yes and he should have to play there for the next six years and he should have to give his all there was a very funny moment on wednesday uh during the day that it was like if you looked at pft's twitter he was fighting someone about michael thomas if you looked at my twitter i was uh creating fake documents saying aaron rogers should have to give up all of his wins and go to jail wait those are fake yeah yeah they might have been i don't know uh it was very very funny i do think there's a conversation to be had about which packer has killed more people aaron rogers or randall woodfield the i5 killer that is still not suspended by roger goodell aaron rogers his super spreader events every sunday uh part of me thinks he was just probably doing this to make sure that uh darren revell finally got tickets to the green bay packers because they moved up on the line uh aaron rogers that was that's disgusting man it's disgusting i don't really even know that that was one of those things where i just saw everyone was mad at aaron rogers i just jumped in the pile i still don don't actually...
I haven't read actually what went down. I just saw...
Oh, it's funny. I saw it happening, and I was like, gotta get in.
And then halfway through the day, I flipped it and was like, hey, Aaron, people are being unfair to you. Why don't you just retire? You don't need this shit.
How much money does Aaron Rodgers have, Jake? He can retire. He can retire.
He doesn't have to deal with these people. Aaron, we have your back if you want to retire.
If not... Estimated 120.
Oh, my God. And then he's got the State Farm money coming in, too.
You can live off interest. He's good.
There was a moment where I saw a clip from ESPN that was tweeted that they were somber tone talking about how egregious it was that Aaron Rodgers did this. And I was like, this is why I'm able to live with my takes because there's actually people making this take so I can jump on and be like, he should be in jail.
And there will be some people who will be like, oh, Big Cat's being serious. It's also because the timeline goes, over the summer he applied for an exemption to the vaccination thing because he had just gotten back from doing ayahuasca with Miles Teller on his little vacation, know change his whole perspective on shit by the way that press conference that he gave last thursday after the game he said he actually plagiarized zoolander the movie zoolander owen wilson but not intentionally he was like you know this off season i took some time changed my whole perspective on things i did some things that made me realize what was really important that's the line from zoolander when owen wilson is like yeah me and my bros just got back from st mark we were we were doing lsd and tripping balls with spider monkeys change our whole perspective on shit aaron rogers did ayahuasca this off scene he comes back he applies for an exemption the nfl says no you can't be exempt because you took lsd this summer that doesn't yeah doesn't – he had like a holistic thing that he had in mind that he was going to try to get an exemption for.
They said, no, you can't do that. Now journalists are mad because he lied to them.
Or he didn't lie. Excuse me.
He broke out the thesaurus and said he was immunized, not vaccinated. And they're mad because he was then doing press conferences with them without wearing a mask.
So that's really why the journalists are the most upset about it. Listen, if you had to write a fanfic perfect story for our good friend Mike Florio to cover, this is it.
Because he gets to bust out the rules and the regulations and old videos and him on the in the preseason I just have a very cut and dry take that Aaron Rodgers should be in jail for life regardless of what he's done and actually I compromised that take halfway through the day yesterday and I said you know what I people who say that I can't compromise that I'm being so extreme, Aaron Rodgers should be in jail until the COVID pandemic is completely over, until the last person has had COVID. I like that.
That's fair. That is fair.
Verbal meme is the domino thing. The domino meme.
Yeah. And the first one is, dude eats a bat in China.
And then the last one is, Blake Bortles is starting for the Green Bay Packers yes yes and now all of that said Aaron Rodgers should be in jail um it is this is this is for non-Packers fans ears only so if you're a Packers fan you cannot listen to the next thing I'm about to say you have to turn off the show or actually skip forward 30 seconds you're not allowed to listen to this I am so deathly afraid that Jordan Love is going to be awesome and it's just going to be like, oh shit, I was wishing for Aaron Rodgers to be gone. Now Jordan Love just fucking killed the Chiefs and he's clearly going to be a Hall of Fame quarterback for the next 20 years.
And all of my worst nightmares are coming true again. And oh my God, I wish Aaron Rodgers were back because at least then he might lose in the NFC Championship game which he always

does but no Jordan Love is probably so good

he'll probably win every Super Bowl and that's what

I'm fearful of now. Okay

Packers fans you're back on. You're allowed

to listen again. So as an owner I'll

speak for the franchise. Well you can't comment

on what I just said. No I won't.
As an owner I'm

speaking for the franchise. We are actively listening

to trade offers so if anybody out

there is an owner of another NFL team or

a general manager. Les

Sneed hit me up if you got any picks

I'm going to go franchise. We are actively listening to trade offers.
So if anybody out there is an owner of another NFL team or a general manager, Les Snead, hit me up if you got any picks. Happy to talk picks with you.
Shout out Les Snead's kids buying him a mug that said, fuck them picks. Fuck them picks.
That's such a great mug. The thing is, I don't think that Jordan Love is...
No, wait, what? I didn't think that Jordan Love. You're right.
I'm talking about Blake Bortles. Blake Bortles is officially now a Green Bay Packer.
He's the best. He's on the practice squad.

Again, that's a little bit insulting to

insinuate that Blake Bortles needs practice

at anything. I think he's proven that he

can be a starting quarterback in this league.

But regardless, he's got a job.

He's in Green Bay. Probably has the only

Tesla in Wisconsin. So,

we're rooting for Blake. Yes.
As a person.

Blake,

I'm rooting for Blake. I can put aside my

Packer hatred for my good friend Blake Bortles.

All right, let's go. Picks.
Jake, update us. Yeah, so Billy and Big Cat, 3-1.
PFT, 1-3. The rest of us, 2-2.
Right now, Hank, 18-13-1 as a half game lead on Big Cat, who's 18-14. PFT and Billy tied at 17-15.
Liam and I tied for last at 15 and 17. So right now, wait, who's second?

I am.

You and then still us tied.

Okay, so, all right, go ahead.

Rock, paper, scissors, shoot.

Rock, paper, scissors, shoot.

So Liam and Big Cat.

All right.

Still three and a half games total from first to last.

Oh, Liam lost that. Yeah, now this is last place.

Last place, got it.

Last place, and I'm in second.

What are you going to say, Billy?

I should have been four now.

I didn't go with my gut pick.

Oh, okay.

It would have been the Jets

if I picked the Lions.

I also should have been four now.

You guys know that I picked the Jets

several times.

If I had picked two winners

instead of two losers,

I would have been four now.

Can you please tweet the graphic

of all of our picks

on Sunday morning, Jake?

We do.

Oh, we do?

No, we tweet them after. No.
No, we do both. Oh, we tweet them before? Okay, good.
I got to text that to me. Okay.
Because it's like, listen, we're not smart guys. We admit that we're not smart guys.
When everyone has the Lions to win their first game, we should have put responsibly all the money on the Eagles. But the week before, we all had the Lions against the Rams and they covered.
Yes, that's true. This was like four and three.
And we were all not only saying bet the Lions as underdogs, we were all saying bet the Lions, money line. If there's a consensus, and we're able to do it because we're taping this on Thursday and then we have the clarity of Sunday, when that gets tweeted on Sunday, if you see a consensus or five out of six of us are on one side, just run the other way.
Run the other way. I'm not going to skip ahead to next week, but did you see what Dan Campbell did? Yes.
Yeah, I did. He buried it.
They physically buried the game tape, which I don't even know if they physically own game tape anymore. No, he buried a computer.
He burned it on a CD. Yeah, he took his computer.
Somebody emailed him the game film, and then he took an AOL CD out into the backyard and buried it. Oh my god, I love him so much.
So that's a lock. Yes.
Who are they playing? I don't know. It doesn't matter.
It's true, it doesn't. Seahawks-Cowboys this week? Yeah, guess the line? Probably like I don't know, six and a half.
Alright, people were very confused by that, by the way, as much as we were. They're two stats.
I just meant they're two stats to keep in mind. All right, let's do it.
Let's do their picks. Favorites.
Hank. I hate the board this week.
Rat lines everywhere. The number one rat line, which I'm just doing the fade myself, but like Trevor Simeon being a.5 point favorite.
Yeah? Crazy. That's crazy.
So wait, when you say you're fading yourself on the rat line, that's a lot of stuff. What are you actually betting? I think that Trevor Simeon should not be a 6.5 point favorite.
I think the Falcons are going to win the game outright. Therefore, I'm taking the Saints minus 6.5.
It's also... I also am not a favorite guy.
The Saints are in a classic letdown spot, but Trevor Simeon is in a I want my career to last a lot longer spot. So it's like two conflicting things that you can't really...
Like if Jameis were starting this game for the Saints, I would say the Falcons are the play because the whole team would be a letdown you know what I mean you have a huge win against the Super Bowl champs division win the the the dome was rocking per barstool mincey uh so all that all that throwing in there but now you add Trevor Simeon who like he has to win the he has to play well because he wants to keep his job and he wants to also keep getting an NFL paycheck for a long time in the future and there's no better spot to do it than in Sean Payton's system which is always consistent Sean Payton loves the guys that are currently on the team he's not a guy that'll go out and actively shop for new he's like we had a good summer of practice we ride in the Sibian he's a good player he's good enough to get us through a few games if we need him to but I guess guess it's going to be him and Taysom Hill. Taysom's back practicing.
Six and a half points? A couple things. Matty Ice? One, I'm a little bit nervous about betting against the Falcons.
I might take this back. I was, but I saw Arthur Smith shaved his beard.
The wind beard is gone. So the chins out there are lack thereof in full effect right now.
It's to be his first game back without a beard something to note in your data Hank also I heard that they were calling Phillip Rivers I heard the Saints were at least interested interested that's a terrible sign Phillip Rivers said it Phillip Rivers said the Saints haven't called yet, but if they do, I'll listen.

Yeah.

He put himself in that, which I love.

Because he's been at home with his 10 children.

Yes.

And he's like, yeah, I would love to have a job.

Please get me out of this house.

Let me just say.

Dear God, whatever it is, I'll do it.

If the Saints want to call for me, I'll listen.

I won't.

I'll listen.

I'm not going to do it.

I'll listen.

I've already reserved my rights to playing running back for the Houston Texans if they call. I will listen.
Phillip Rivers is a worthy successor to Jameis Winston. Of course.
In that he's diet Jameis. He's the radio edit version of Jameis Winston.
I think that's mean to Phil. I think Phil has...
I think it's just more like Jameis is a 2.0 version. Phil is the original of the comedic quarterbacks.
Oh, yeah. Phillip Rivers five years ago I think I think fills this void nicely now I don't think he's athletic enough to be hilarious I think I think at the end of the year last year he was he was leaning more towards sad yeah than he was funny yeah and he doesn't cut so he truly is the radio edit version of Jameis Winston yeah he's died Jameis um all pick, Hank.
I say that with no confidence. Go ahead, Liam.
I'm taking Buffalo minus 14.5. I love that pick.
Against the Jaguars. That feels like the Bills struggling in the first half against the Dolphins.
They're getting dinged a few points here. They should just dominate, have the Jacks given up? We need to...
It's a rat. This is rat game number two.
There's so many rats. But it's always important in this point of the NFL season to try to figure out, pinpoint the teams that have truly given up and then just start going against them.
Because there is a point where they will give up. Is Sean Watson playing? For the Jaguars? Oh, no, that's a different game.
I don't think he is. That's good insight.
I haven't seen any reporting done on that. Like, to your point, I feel like we're just at the season where teams suck.
Right. Like, Jaguars suck.
They're just going to keep sucking. Jaguars are definitely number one on my rankings of lost the locker room.
Yeah, they suck. Geno Smith looked incredible against them last week.
I think the Bills, like, this could be one of those turn the game on 35-0. You know? All right.
PFT, your favorite. Okay, I'm going to go with the Raiders, minus three.
They're playing the Giants on the road. Rich Basickia, foxhole.
Rich Basickia, foxhole. I'm not leaving his Foxhole until he does something to kick me out.
And so far, all he's done is cover the spread. That's all he does.
I'm going to stay on it. No real logic behind this at all.
I could say that I believe in it because the Giants are on a short week, but I don't think that that really matters that much in this matchup. No, the Giants really can't.
You can't really figure out the Giants because they could win this game by three scores or they could lose it by three scores and you're just like, yeah, the Giants, that makes sense. So Raiders minus three.
I'm feeling pretty good about it too. I get the sense that the Giants, they're coming off really an emotional loss for them.
They were in it. They could have beaten the Chiefs.
That was like their best game that they brought out. And they actually played really well.
The narrative was all about the Chiefs and how the Chiefs might be broken, what the Chiefs need to do differently. But I think in reality, the Giants, in the trenches at least, played pretty decently for most of the game.
Yes, agreed. They're coming off an emotional loss.
I got the Raiders minus three. All right.

I'm going to take the Bengals minus two and a half.

I'm a little nervous that Odell Beckham has been excused from the team with pay

because we saw last year that the Browns, like,

the moment they started getting good was when Odell Beckham got hurt.

But it does feel like this is a little bit different because I just can't imagine,

like, publicly saying you want to be off the team and then the whole team.

I think that'sals, they lost to the Jets. They're going to come back down to earth like, hey, good week of practice.
Let's fucking go. Let's get our shit together.
I like the Bengals minus two and a half against the Browns. Battle of Ohio.
Suryat agrees with you. Oh.
Remember that guy? Yeah. Suryat.
I love Suryat. Dude, he brought back Big Ten football.
He said that if the Browns beat the Bengals, he will drink a gallon of uncooked Skyline chili. Oh.
First question for Suryat, where does one acquire uncooked Skyline chili? Is that like raw meat? The raw meat? I don't know. Or is he just talking about like cold skyline chili? Because if he's talking cold skyline chili, that's just a good soft drink.
Yeah. Yeah.
Gazpacho. Gazpacho.
Oh my God, so gross. All right, your favorite, Billy.
My favorite is the Rams, seven and a half against the Titans. I like that too.
Derrick Henry, gone. Yes, they have Adrian Peterson, but they also have Von Miller on the other side combined with Aaron Donald.
I think that's going to combine for a good matchup. And we're gunning for 4-0 again, right? Yeah.
4-0. 4-0.
4-0. I like that pick.
Adrian Peterson is so fucking old. The only reason I don't like that pick is I think I officially am declaring the Titans the most disrespected team in the NFL.
And I'm counting myself in this, because even when they win, I'm like, they're not. It's Tannehill.
And their defense stinks. You know what I mean? So they could show up and win, and we'd be like, yeah, they just got the Rams on a bad night.
They are disrespected to the core. Myself included.

I think this line would be appropriate with Derrick Henry.

But even without, I'm like... Odds maker Billy.

So you're really disrespectful.

I like it.

How many points is Derrick Henry worth?

Well, remember, the Jets won.

How many points is Derrick Henry worth?

This game with Derrick Henry would probably be seven.

So only half a point.

Of course, half a point.

Okay.

Yeah.

They disrespected Derrick Henry by making this the line. Got it.
Got it. Okay.
Half a point for Derrick Henry would probably be seven. So we have half a point.
Almost half a point. Okay.
Okay. Yeah.
They disrespected Derrick Henry by making this the line. Got it.
Got it. Okay.
Half a point for Derrick Henry. I like that.
Any other, like what, Dak Prescott, how many points is he worth? Three. Okay.
Well, we know the answer. It's like six and a half because it went from like two and a half to four.
Oh. But that's okay.
I was just, listen, I like your Derrick I'm trying I'm just I'm seeing how sharp

your lines are

that's all

working on it

okay

Jake

my favorites

the Chargers

minus one and a half

at the Philadelphia Eagles

okay

the Eagles

were just

yeah okay

they crushed the Lions

they're coming in high

yeah we're a good team

and the Chargers

are a good team as well

I think they travel

cross country

and get the win

yeah okay

Billy how many

it almost seems too easy

right

I do think the Eagles

We'll be right back. and the Chargers are a good team as well.
I think they travel cross-country and get the win. Yeah, okay.
Billy, how many?

It almost seems too easy.

Right.

I do think the Eagles winning against the Lions,

they did win so, like, they crushed them.

Are the Eagles good or they just crushed the Lions?

I think they just crushed the Lions.

Yeah.

How many points is Aaron Rodgers worth?

Seven.

Okay, you got that. You're back on track.
What about Kyler Murray? Yeah, five and a half. Okay, we might find out the answer to that because he might be out.
Hank, your underdog. I'm torn between two bitter rivals.
Bears and Packers. I think I'm going to go with the Packers.
Okay okay packers plus seven and a half the chiefs are so bad i've lost so much money responsibly betting on the chiefs and then live betting them when they get down and just being like the chiefs the chiefs the chiefs chiefs are gonna bounce back the chiefs are gonna go back to what they were tom rady killed the chiefs i i think not enough people are talking about it. He ended their dynasty.
Yeah. It wasn't really a dynasty, though.
Exactly. It would have been without Tom Brady.
So he snuffed out. He traveled back in time, baby Hitler'd the Chiefs dynasty.
Pretty much. The Chiefs are 2-6 against the spread.
They're only covers coming against the Washington football team and the Philadelphia Eagles. And I think I've been involved in all six losses, and I think every game they've lost, I've live bet them because I'm like, oh, the Chiefs can score in two seconds.
They're going to come back and win this game by 20, and they have not. The Chiefs are like Spider-Man meme the Oklahoma Sooners this year.
We're like, well, their offense. Their offense will do it, and you just expect to turn on the game.
It's going to happen. And the offense doesn't do it.
I will still be saying this about the Chiefs until week 17 of this season. They're going to turn back into the Chiefs at some point.
I'm in a bad part of the season where I'm too many allegiances, too many I have to keep betting on the Lions until they win. I have to keep betting.
I'm done with it. Chiefs have been bad for me.
I'm abandoning ship. And obviously, you know who else abandoned ship? Rats.
Yeah. Aaron Rodgers.
Because he got immunized. Immunized.
What did he say? Homeopathic remedies. Got it.
Got it. The Packers, obviously, with Aaron Rodgers this year, are 7-1 against the spread.
The Chiefs, like I said, are 2-6. Bubba, your underdog.
I'm taking Giants plus 3. Ooh.
Head to head with PFT. Okay, bring it.
Yeah, I just feel like they're coming around. Bring it, Bubba.
Yeah. What are your stats to back that up? Because I gave you a hard, fat, cold stat.
My eye test. Okay, fair.
Yeah. Wait, your colorblind eye test? I mean, yeah.
These are way different apart. Uniforms.
That's true. I think I can handle that.
They're black. One team.
Yeah. Wait, which team? The Giants.
The Giants are blue. Yeah.
The Raiders are black. Did you see the Sixers and Bulls game last night? Or white.
You probably didn't. That would have been a nightmare for you.
No, I didn't watch that. The Bulls were wearing red.
The Sixers were wearing the Nets jerseys. The Sixers were wearing blue and red.
It was so bad. It's really mean what the NBA is doing.
There's far too many jerseys. Yeah, you have to have.
There's way too many. There has to be.
You can't do the two solid colored jerseys. Yes, one team should be white in every game.
I saw that there's a new jersey coming out where the teams, I guess the individual players can choose their font on the jersey, and that includes on the numbers. So if you have a player that wears a two-digit number, they can have two types of font on their number.
Jesus. That looks like a hostage note.
Yeah, I know it is. It's a ransom note that they've made.
Like, cut them out of magazines and put them on. That's crazy.
It's like the Rams jerseys where they have the 19 fonts and all the different grays on the uniforms. I hate those.
Yeah. Alright, your underdog, PFT.
Okay, my underdog. I'm going to go with the Texans, plus six.
Texans, plus six at the Dolphins. The Dolphins stink.
Hold your nose. Dolphins stink.
I'm going to hold my nose. Tarod Taylor's back.
Okay. And I like Tarod when he's playing.
That matters. Problem is he doesn't matter.
So Tarod is worth, in my estimation, actually, no, I should say Davis Mills. No, ask Billy.
How much is Davis Mills worth? Two and a half. Well, it'd be negative two and a half, right? Negative two and a half.
Minus two and a half points. That's about right.
I would say maybe... I'm looking at five and a half right now.
No, the spread, not six. The actual spread.
You're getting five and a half right now? Yeah. Okay.
I'll go with that. I'll go with five and a half.
I like it at six. I love it at five and a half.
Taking the Texans on the road. Because the Dolphins are really, really not good.
People forget they lost to the Jaguars. It was in London.
Yep. But people forget that.
That is true. All right, my underdog, I'm taking the San Francisco 49ers.
Plus one against Cardinals. Yours as well? Yeah, that's mine.
All right, so we don't know if Kyler Murray's playing. So maybe lock it in now.
He is hurt no matter what, right? He's in a walking boot. I also, that game they played, they played a few weeks ago,

and the Niners were in that game.

Remember, it was Trey Lance's first start.

Trey Lance looked very, very bad.

The Niners actually outgained the Cardinals.

The Niners have George Kittle back.

I think they can play good defense on the Cardinals with or without Kyler Murray.

I like the Niners plus one.

Also, George Kittle had an awesome Master Chief costume on Halloween. He did.
So yeah, I think the Niners will hang with this game with or without, or win this game with or without Kyler Murray playing on the other side. Tough to beat a division team twice, especially second game on the road.
And the Niners can muck up any game plan. They can.
They can just destroy your life and everything that you thought that you had going into that week just by doing unusual physical things on a football field. And they did it the first time they played.
Like, that was a 17-10 game where the Niners, if you watched it, it was basically Trey Lance, like, kind of driving the Niners and then throwing the ball through someone or over someone and them not being able to get points. We should, though, mention that the backup quarterback for the Cardinals, do you know who it is? Colt McCoy.
Colt McCoy. Colt McCoy is typically good for one surprise win a season.
Yes. True, true.
All right, you're underdog. I am with Liam on the Giants plus three.
All right. The G-men.
Hank. Over? Over.
Patriots, Panthers. Ooh.
I stand with Hank. It's a very very low again this is it's a rat over under.
It seems like it should be higher. I also think a lot of the talk I'm probably going 0-4 this week.
I'm predicting an 0-4 weekend for myself. After week eight a lot of the talk was and rightfully so Patriots are back.
I think this is like their encore to being back.

Hopefully.

You know what I mean?

Like they have to win this game convincingly because the Panthers are not good

to officially be like, oh, that was an awesome concert.

I agree.

Yeah.

I like it.

I think the number's just too small.

It's the Carroll Lover.

Carroll Lover.

We need to look up.

What are the stats on?

Or the Char Lover.

Yeah, the Char Lover.

It's Bill Belichick against Sam Darnold. My stats tell me that Sam Darnold is 0-3 against Bill Belichick.
I'd say 0-7. Yeah, no, he only plays him once a year because he always gets hurt or makes out with a chick that has mono.
Seeing ghosts. All right, Liam, you're over.
I just realized this. I'll call it the Ohio-over.
Oh, nice. The Cleveland Cincy.
Love it. 47.
Over in Ohio. The Ohio-over.
Ohio-over. Over-I-O.
That's a good one. That's a really good one.
You can't force these. You can't.
Oh, Jake. Did you hear that? He's literally Ross seeing somebody trying to give him a new phrase.
He's like, no, that's not good enough. That was Jake.
Did you hear that? He's literally Rossy and somebody trying to give him a new phrase. He's like, no, that's not good enough.
That was Jake right there. There's no added syllables.
Ohio. Ohio.
Just adding three letters. John Ross.
London. They're both two syllables.
Yeah, that's a good point. Ohio.
Yeah. Oh, hiostein.
Yeah, but I combined two words. I lost a letter.
I approve of him. I like the Carolover.
Yeah, Carolover. We'll try to get Rostein in next week or the week after.
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This is your lasting legacy. The rover.
And the chop. Yeah.
And the chop. People don't forget the chop.
Apologies again for the chop. The Vikings, Ravens over.
I think the Vikings, whatever. I hate Kirk Cousins.
The Ravens' defense is good, but they also give up big plays. Off a bye, John Harbaugh, their offense would be good.
I don't know. Does anyone know? Over 50.
Yeah, I like that there's two purple teams going up against each other. Purple raining down points.
Apparently, Lamar Jackson is a favorite at Dave & Buster's. There were some texts that came out over the week, and people were talking about how great of a customer Lamar Jackson is.
When he goes to restaurants and he leaves nice tips and he's always very polite and generous.

And he's a big cherry Coke guy too.

Oh, nice.

I like him. He orders cherry Cokes.

I like him.

Tips really well.

And he absolutely loves Dave & Buster's.

So that makes me like Lamar Jackson even more than I already did.

Also, I saw that.

I don't know how true it is,

but I do know that the center for the Vikings

has been placed in the COVID protocol.

Who is the one person that spends the most time in close contact with the center? Who? The Kirk Cousins? Unless Kirk Cousins puts aluminum foil in between his hand and the center's asshole. Which he could.
He might. Did you see what they're distributing to colleges during the pandemic about positioning? No.
It's the least contact position. Oh, doggy style.
Yeah. No good point, Billy.
Okay. All right.
Yeah. Kirk Cousins would be the one, though, that you'd have to look out for because, like, obviously, he's on the record as saying that he's not vaccinated.
So if he's spent 15 minutes or more inside with their center, then it means that he's going to have to be put in, like, a specific COVID protocol, too. Yeah.
But I like your insight, Billy. They've been doing it doggy style.
Cousins should be safe. All right, you're over.
My over is the Bills-Jaguars, 48-and-a-half, and I'll tell you why. Buffalo over.
Yes, it's going to be a shit-pumping by Buffalo, but you got Urban Meyer and Trevor Lawrence, who are both going to be insecure late in the game because they haven't scored, they haven't gotten much of anything, and they're going to try to put up points to cut the resume, make sure that it doesn't look like that much of a shit pumping. I like it.
I like it. So it's going to be like 35 and 14.
Some garbage time. Okay, Jake, you're over.
Honor system can't change picks. I'm also with Liam on Cleveland Cincinnati over 47.
Would you like to say the word? Ohio over. There we go.

All right, let's wrap up with your under.

Hank, we'll hit any games that we missed.

Texans-Dolphins.

Okay.

I mean, you don't even want to watch that game.

No.

It's gross.

That's also a perfect game. Who's scoring points?

46 and a half.

If you bet that under, it's a great game to bet that under

and just be pleasantly surprised that Red Zone hasn't checked in on that game for an hour. You should be like, oh, that's good.
Also, I feel like a 10 to 3 halftime score. Yeah, this is going to be a weird score game.
Probably see a safety at some point. I think I'm going to bet the no safeties bet again.
It's a fun little parlay. You just combine this kid Jake that works here.
Did it first. You just combine all of the no safeties in every single game.
It's obviously crazy odds for no safeties, but if you combine all 13 or 12 or whatever it is, it comes out to minus 150. What about doing all safeties? That would be...
Parlay them? I think you could probably bet $1 to win a million. More than a million, probably.
Just a thought. I'm going to do all safeties.
I am envisioning a late game situation. That would be like the bachelor party that puts all the video of them all putting like $400 on one number and it hits.
Yeah. I'm picturing a late game situation where it's Urban Meyer and David Cully trying to out-strategize each other like the Mike Vrabel, Bill Belichick one where they were both trying to figure out how time works, and just seeing how badly both of them can fuck it up.
Yes, yes. Who's going to fuck up the end of this game worse, David Cully or Urban Meyer? My prediction is Urban Meyer.
Love it. Because Urban Meyer doesn't have a yes man next to him to even give him feedback.
Urban Meyer's a man alone right now. No, he turns around and everyone walks away.
Yeah. Okay, you're under Liam.
I'm going to do Chargers-Eagles under 49.5. Okay.
I just feel like Eagles haven't scored a lot of points the whole year and then coming off a game where they did, probably a letdown. So I don't see them scoring a lot.
Los underless. It's in Philadelphia, though..
The Funderdelphia. No, there's no real good one to do there.
My under is going to be... City of Underly Love.
That's what I was thinking. Okay, let's go.
City of Underly Love. I'm going to take Kansas City, Green Bay.
This podcast is... A nosedive.
This is a nosedive.

47 and a half.

47 and a half. That's...
If anyone wants to say

anything right now about each other, this is

the scene from Almost Famous when the plane

is going down. Oh, I haven't seen that one.

Spoiler. Oh, shit.
Oh, by the way, David

Chase says that Tony dies in the last scene.

They did another interview with him. Oh.

So, a little food for thought. TFT asked us,

you weren't in the room, and he was like, do you guys see the news? We all said no. He said, we want to know what happens.
We all said no. And then Billy was like, well, you spoiled it for me.
I was like, you spoiled it for me. You guys don't realize how, by spoiling it for me, you spoiled it for thousands.
So just know that. Well, actually, by the numbers, probably hundreds of thousands.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, if we want to statistically do it. It's still a great show.
I encourage everybody to watch it. It's a very great show.
Just know that in the very last episode... Stop! I won't say anything else, but David Chase said that in the last scene, Tony gets killed.
The creator of the show spoiled it. You can't do that.
What did you say, Billy? I didn't want to bitch about it, but you know, when this... I tried to start watching The Sopranos and I heard so many spoilers, I was like oh, that guy Oh, wait, he dies and gets shot on a boat.
And I was like, big pussy. You're talking about pussy? Yeah.
Because he's a rat. Okay, go on.
Yeah, the under is Kansas City and Green Bay. I think that Jordan Love, it's his first game.
It's going to be tricky. It's going to be tough.
I'm not going to say anything that we didn't address earlier on this show in a certain segment. Correct.

That was for non-Packers fans only.

This is the week where the Kansas City

offense comes back to being the Kansas City offense.

48. Good luck with that.

Timing that is very tough.

It's 48 right now. I'm timing it.
On the dot.

This is going to be Kansas City

37, Green Bay

10. Whoa.

Wait. Yeah.
That's the expected points. Remember we're doing expected points? Does anyone fall in? Yeah.
You just expected points to be under. No, it's 48.
Yeah, you said 37. Oh, you're doing your under.
That's my under. Got it.
So you're one point off. I'm nailing this.
I thought we were on overs. I got lost in all these fucking stupid names.
Give me a three-point window to hit.

I'm already middling this game.

It's that close.

Got it.

I like it.

I like it.

All right.

My under, I'm doing Falcon Saints, under 42.

Saints defense is good.

Calvin Ridley obviously is taking a step back from football for the Falcons.

They don't have as many weapons.

Trevor Simeon, game manager, under 42.

Billy.

Titans, Rams, 53 and a half.

Oh, you're just double dipping on this game.

I'm sorry. Falcons, they don't have as many weapons.
Trevor Simeon, game manager, under 42.

Billy.

Titans, Rams, 53.5.

Oh, you're just double dipping on this game. I am.

Okay.

I like it.

I feel like the...

You have a read on this game.

If you looked...

Locked in.

Billy looked at all the games, he's like, you know what?

I know exactly what's going to happen in this game.

I feel like the Titans are going to overcompensate without Derrick Henry with their defense.

Okay. And Rams are just going to have a great defense.
They're going to try on defense, you mean? Yeah. Isn't Derrick Henry an asset for the defense? Because when he's playing, they're not on the field as much? But now they're going to try harder.
But now they're going to be on the field more, so they'll get into more of a rhythm on defense. That's what you're saying.
Also, Deshaun Jackson cleared waivers, so some team is going to hire him, and he's going to score one touchdown for 80 yards and then pull his hamstring a little bit. I feel like he's going to be on the Raiders.
Yeah. I could see it.
Yep. I could see it.
Al Davis loves speed. Also, Texans Dolphins under 46 and a half with Hank.
Okay. So, I think the only game we didn't hit was hit was Cowboys Broncos.
It looks like Dak's playing. Jerry Jones did his thing where he's like, he did a press conference and just said Dak's playing, which probably pisses off everyone in the building, their medical staff and everything, but that's okay.
He owns the team. Also, the Cowboys are wearing red, white, and blue stripes on their helmet.
Oh, love it. So I initially saw that and I was like, oh, this is one of the dumb things that they try to pull out to sell a few more pieces of merch during one of their theme months that they have.
But I saw a picture of the helmets. The helmets are actually awesome.
They look cool. They look awesome with the red, white, and blue stripe.
It reminds me of the new NFL football that's red, white, and blue. Yes.
Yes. Okay.
So that is week nine. I'm hoping for a great week.
Let's all just say a quick prayer. Bless up.
Great week. Great week.
Great week for everyone. Hank's going to go 0-4, though.
He already said that. All right, let's do a new, we have a very new, brand new fantasy Billys.
Wait, what's the music? Oh, yeah, Billy, you get to pick the music You tell us

Let the bodies hit the floor

Yeah

No, let them pick

It's an EDM song I can't think of right now

I'll tell you guys after

Okay, cool

It's a secret

I don't even know how to do this

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Sweet

Oh dude

I love squirrels

Did you guys see this?

In the far Saffron forest

Squirrels overthrew the chipmunks

Now majority

Government in the state's forest

That's sick

So they're like

They're like voting on acorns

They're gonna be getting mad nuts

Shit

My surname's Bill Gates

Thank you. Government in the state forest.
That's sick, so they're like voting on acorns. They're going to be getting mad nuts.
Shit. My surname is Bill Gates.
Yeah. Fucking rich piece of shit.
Capitalist asshole. Fuck.
I could go into it, but I'm not going to. Anyways.
Not get it. I've seen studies about Bill Gates.
Tons of studies. He's whack.
My sleeper's Mike White. Yeah.
He won the game tonight, and he's going to be fucking sleeping around because he's going to be getting so much puss because he won the game, and he's New York's future. Watch out for Mono.
Oh, shit. Anyways.
Take ivermectin for Mono, by the way. Thanks, Billy.
Hey, what's up, guys? This is Billy Football. I'm starting the University of Texas this weekend.
Oh, fuck. Steve Sarkeesian, he said that the monkey was not a distraction.
And actually, the monkey was kind of sweet, to be honest. And it was a personal matter.
And first of all, it's a rhesus monkey. It's not a chimp.
Everyone's calling it a chimp. It's a rhesus monkey.
I love rhesus. My favorite candy.

It's part of the simian subdivision of monkeys. Traverse simian?

It's just so frustrating hearing people say that it's not

a simian when it actually is.

So I'm sitting

Joe Judge's headset.

Fix Joe Judge's headset.

There's something going on with it. It's weird.

I don't know.

People are saying that people

are using an electromagnetic pulse

to take off the giant's communication

Thank you. going on with it.
It's weird. Like, I don't know.
People are saying that people are using like an electromagnetic pulse to take off the Giants communication on the sideline. And I just like to say that's just like not cool and it's anti-New York bias.
So somebody fix it so that he can listen to Car Talk or whatever when he's got that thing on. My sleeper is the Lions.
Not the football team, the Lions, but actual Lions are my sleeper. Oh, shit.
Because zookeepers in Akron, in Ohio, are actually giving Lions the COVID vaccine now. Oh, fuck.
Which is totally untested on Lions right now. I saw that.
I saw that. Yeah.
I saw that. Yeah.
There's a study that just came out that said that lions, it'll actually put them into a coma. Yeah.
And that the female lions will start to grow manes. Mm-hmm.
So I just like everybody to keep an eye out on lions. They might be doing the frogs turning gay thing on lions.
All right. What's up, guys? Billy.
Hey, Billy. My stardom is low key.
It's going to be squat racks. So I got a squat rack in my kitchen.
And if you don't have a squat rack in your kitchen, like get on my level low key. It's the metabolic window.
You can work out and eat at the same time. Yeah.
Low key. I've been drinking a lot of milk, which I don't know if you saw, but low key, it's like getting like way more expensive uh but like whatever all right my sit-em is uh the vaccine booster shots so i don't know if you guys have been seeing this but like the studies out there are pretty sketchy and i'm not saying i'm anti-vax no but i also also saw a study that five kids that are exactly my height and weight all had their hearts explode like a cell phone with 5G.
I think it's just you should do research on how the vaccine interacts with people who are like sports players. Yeah.
I heard you can suck the vaccine out of your own dick, and it gets it out, but it doesn't work. Yeah.
No, I heard that too. Confirmed.
I heard that too. And then my sleeper is so, I was listening to Rogan last week and it was elections.
Joey? Yeah, it was elections on Tuesday. And my sleeper is dolphins because they did a study and dolphins are more likely to be Democrats than Republicans.
I saw it. It just came out.
Yeah. Yeah.
So that should actually like, I don't know how they're going to do. Like I was doing some research on the gerrymandering and like how they get districts.
Jury, jury, jury, mandering. And like when you add in global warming and then all of Florida is probably going to be Republican because of all the dolphins.
It's just something to think about. I think that just dolphins, they do too much cardio.
Yeah. That's fucking beta.
Yeah. Hey, boys.
Anyone want to order food? My stardom is the city of Atlanta. It's parade day in the ATL and I can't wait to get downtown with the bros and see some blue mountains with the Braves driving around the city.
My sit-up is LeBron. He's out for a week with an ab strain and my diagnosis as the bro football doc is he's just soft and doesn't feel like playing.
My sleeper, Zach Wilson. Don't look now, but after tonight it's been three straight games with the Jets playing where he hasn't thrown a pick.
See you in the playoffs, Hank. Anyways.
Credit to Billy. Clap it up for Billy for letting us mock him in his face.
They're not rhesus monkeys. They're capuchin.
There's a capuchin monkey. That's the only thing that Billy's mad about.
It's not that we mocked him. It's that you got the fucking monkeys wrong, bro.
Low-key, those monkeys do you have a fuck boy for us yeah are you got anything to say retorts anything who whose was the best whose was the most accurate honestly jake's yeah jake's is great am i really that political no no but it's funny to pretend that you are. Sweet.
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Okay, we now welcome on a recurring guest, one of our favorite recurring guests. It is Dana White, the man, the myth, the legend.
He's here in New York because we've got UFC 268. Yep.
Got it. Do you ever get loose track? Yeah, I always lose track.
We're getting up there. 268 is a lot of UFC.
Have you considered doing nicknames for the fights instead of numbers? Or are you just going to stick with numbers? We stopped a long time ago doing the numbers and the fans just kept the rolling, so we got sucked back in. I like the numbers because you can also, like, I mean, 268's fucking crazy.
It's like a reminder of, you know, how long you've been doing it. And it doesn't include, you know, the numbers don't include fight nights.
Those are only pay-per-views. Got it.
I mean, you're talking so many fights. Do you think for UFC 500 you'll bring back Butterbean? Butterbean? Yeah.
Butterbean's got to be like 60 years old. So you don't think he can knock you out? Knock me out? Yeah, knock all of us out of this room.
Definitely knock me out. I don't know if he's going to knock any of these guys out.
Yeah, he can knock us all out. All right, so this fight, very exciting.
MSG, the Mecca, Usman versus Covington 2. A lot of trash talk.
You you don't do predictions but can you give us a prediction i listen this is the fight the first fight was one of the best fights i've ever seen it was and uh there's no doubt about it that colby covington is the second best guy in the world he's the guy that should be fighting for the title right now uzman has broke all these records undefeated in in the UFC, never been taken down ever, never been put on his back, and the list of records go on and on. And obviously been working on his hands and just knocked out Masvidal.
I don't know, man. I just think Usman, he's the pound-for-pound best fighter in the world right now, and I think he's going to probably end up going down as the GOAT, man, if he if he keeps on really trajectory i mean he's lapping these guys right now this is the second time he'll run through some of these guys for the second time but that's the beauty of the fight game that's the beauty of ufc is i know that you've talked about it before but does it ever frustrate you when a guy doesn't stay on top for a really long time because there is that like push and pull of it's's great watching a UFC fight card because you never know what's going to happen.
You never know when a champ's going to get taken down. But obviously a champ having a couple years at the top is good for business.
Right. Well, everybody always assumes that I hope or wish, this happens or that happens.
Whatever happens, happens. The only thing that I give a shit about is that we had a good fight.
Yeah. You know, that the fights are good.
Every night, so every Saturday, I compete with your wives, your girlfriends, the next big movie that comes out. College football.
Whatever sporting event, the weather, college football, you name it. I'm competing with all that stuff.
So every time you sit down and watch my product, as long as you walk away going damn that was a guy you know feel like you didn't waste your time right like you do with a lot of boxing fights you should start an awareness campaign that says like hey remember don't drink too much during the day for college football because you have to stay up late at night i've fallen in that trap before my fight yes passing out at like 8 p.m and forgetting to smash that that order button by the way i think you should be commended because you're on a little bit of a hot streak here the last three ufc fights that i've purchased on the espn plus app have been fine and they've worked and i haven't wanted to throw my phone out the window so i don't know what happened between you and them after that one big debacle that you had a few months ago but it seems like you cracked some skulls it's gotten easier it's gotten easier yeah are they are they afraid of you now well the difference is you know these guys launched this new platform you know and it takes some time to work the kinks out and and you know you're dealing with disney they got the shit together quick and um you know not only they have espn plus but now they have disney plus which has i don't even know. You know how many subscribers they have on Disney+, it's a big number.
It's a massive number. So they're good partners.
They get their shit together quick. Disney, we have our shit together with.
100%. Yes, that's a good tagline for the company.
Mickey Mouse saying that. So will you say that the switch to ESPN has been good? Massive.
Really? Massive, yeah. Everything's been successful? I mean, think about this.
Every day when you turn ESPN right now or three hours from now, that bug is up in that corner there that says UFC and it has the fighters and the fights. I mean, you can't put a number on that.
That's true. For seven years or whatever that will be with these guys.
So that was what I was going to ask. What year are you in your contract? Because I think if I asked you in year six, you'd be like, well, there's things they could do better.
We're in year three. Okay.
So, yeah. You're in the – yeah, this is great.
We're in year three. I mean, listen, I come from – you know, I came from Spike TV, for Christ's sake.
True. To be on ESPN and the type of marketing that these guys do.
They do good work. You think when you're in a sport like mine, your dream is to be on ESPN someday.
You don't realize how big it really is until you're there. Has Mike Greenberg approached you and been like, hey, can I have John Anik's job yet? If Mike Greenberg approached me? Yeah.
me yeah has he because he's thinking about it mike greenberg is on every single program on esp that is true and we are john annick fans on this podcast you threw me off there for a minute because we used to have a guy named mike goldberg i thought you were talking about oh no no greenberg goldberg can we just say we like john annick can we just say that the ufc is a mike greenberg free property there's no mike greenberg's allowed yeah there's no mike greenberg okay. John Anik is on that block.
He's got the job. He's been doing a great job, by the way.
Like the chemistry that those guys have when they call a fight, that's something that you can't fake. You can't just like put guys in a room together and be like, okay, get along and expect for something like that to come out.
They've done a good job. Was there a moment where you were like, I think that we've got our announcing team set here for the foreseeable future? Yeah, well, first of all, thanks, number one.
Number two, it all starts with Rogan. You know, Rogan is so good and so passionate about the sport.
When Rogan talks about UFC, you can tell he's just not a guy who's being paid to talk about this. And obviously you've got Cormier, who's a multiple-time world champion, loves the loves the sport and anik is truly a guy you know when when we got anik anik was working for espn before we had a deal with espn when they started covering mma he was an mma guy so yeah you know all of the guys you know it's not just some some kid that went to sportscaster school and wanted to be in something you know it ends up in.
You've got Jake sitting right next to you. He's taking offense to that.
Yeah, he did go to sportscaster school. Is Cormier officially retired, never coming back? Because he was eating chicken fingers at the Nets game last night like he was a retired man.
He was definitely retired. I saw that.
And I was like, because I couldn't remember if he actually had a full announcement. Because, you know can retire a million times and there's always maybe one more fight right but when i saw him eating those chicken fingers at the nets game i was like that's a retired fighter unfortunately he was eating chicken fingers when he was fighting yeah it's true that's true but he was maybe going a little extra so he's done yeah he's definitely done and and he's got a and a whole new career now i mean this guy's got multiple shows on espn he does all our commentating and he's killing it yeah um so i we did a uh boxing thing i know you i know you uh just bash boxing i still like boxing i can like both uh we did a boxing thing on showtime uh a couple months ago the jake paul fight and we were in the green room with a guy you might not like.
I think that's putting it lightly. R.L.
Hawani. Why do you hate him? It's not that I hate the guy.
He said you hated him. He did.
Well, he's a victim. The guy's a victim.
Okay. He's just one of those fucking, he's a pussy, and he's a fucking, just a big fucking cry baby victim.
Dana is so good. The question didn't register for like two seconds, and he's like, oh, he just wants me to give you a soundbite about Ariel.
Okay, there it is. Look at the guy.
Think about this. And it's not just him.
There's a few of the guys that cover our sport. Ravel.
We have the toughest sport in the world being covered by the biggest pussies in the world. You know what I mean? It's just, what do you expect? I mean, you know, I heard.
But I think you could talk about a sport without having to play the sport. I agree.
I'm not saying the guy has to be whatever. He's a victim.
He's a crybaby. He's, he's.
I actually, I made that whole story up. He said he loves you.
He loves me. I got into a beef one day, and he went out on this tour and was crying on fucking TV and crying and getting all the other media guys to feel sorry for him.
At the end of the day, he's just not my kind of guy. Yeah, I liked him.
I only spent about half a day with him. But I will relay that back to him if I ever see him again.
Oh, trust me. He knows.
Yeah. And then what about Ravel? He's well aware.
Ravel, you know. Ravel's just an asshole.
Yeah, he really is. Like when he does the, oh, this is bad for UFC because someone won and they're not big.
It's just the worst. You know what it is? It's him looking for attention.
Oh, 100%. He's looking for attention.
You know what? I gave him some attention. I said, I will fight you, Darren Revelle.
Yes. And he said, okay, but you have to pay me like $2 million.
He wanted to pay $2 million to Darren Revelle's pocket for me to get in the ring and kick his ass. And now he's gone silent.
I'm like, I'll fight you for free, time and place, name it. Can that be an undercard? Would you put that on as an undercard? So you know when you make $2 million in a fight, when a lot of people know who you are and want to see you fight, nobody knows who the fuck Darren Revelle is.
They know that they want to see me kick Darren Revelle's ass. Yeah? Yeah.
Okay. But you don't know about me.
Start a GoFundMe. I don't want to pay Darren Revelle $2 million.
I just want to kick his ass. I just want to choke him out.
There are some guys that are worth $2 million. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Well, you got to think about that sometimes. As you start to get famous, there's some people that you want to punch in the face.
Who's worth the money and who's not? Yeah. That's a good point.
But you don't pay anyone, right? That's what I heard. Yeah, that's what I heard, too.
Like, you got to be tired of that narrative. I mean, I i guess i don't give a shit i guess it's good you knew it was coming because the more successful you get no more you got to pay everyone if i was no no no that's that's not even it the problem is is that we don't tell anybody what we pay everybody got it that's what drives everybody crazy yeah that does yeah i'm fucking crazy they want so bad.
Now, the fighters can tell people what they make.

You notice that they don't?

None of them came out and said, I don't make any money.

I only made this much money for this fight.

Nobody comes out.

They don't want anybody knowing what they make for the fight.

Because it's a nice ploy to get more money.

So tell us one guy how much he made for a fight.

It's not a ploy to get more money.

When your numbers come out publicly, it's a shit show, man. Everybody's hitting you up for money.
Yeah, true. Now, all these people think that these guys don't get paid.
They don't make any money. So nobody's going to be trying to borrow any money off you.
So what do you pay one of your – give us one fight. Give us one pay-per-view.
So last night, you know this kid BoJack?

Yeah.

The boxer, right?

Yes.

You know him?

Yeah.

Former world champion.

Yes.

He's fighting tomorrow.

He's fighting this weekend, I guess, in the Middle East, and he's making $75,000.

Okay.

Right?

How do I do this?

A guy who isn't even, he's on the prelims. Never been a world champion.
And I won't mention his name. Is making $750,000.
A prelim fighter? Yeah. Wow.
Prelim fighter. Never been a world champion.
Interesting. Is making $750,000.
Okay. So I guess the follow-up question would be, are you concerned you know there's always going to be somebody that's looking to get what the ufc has right now somewhat like a challenger that emerges tries to put together their own fighting uh association my guess is that they probably try to make it like a fighters first uh organization they probably look to be like okay this is this is the most fighter friendly organization there is we're going to publicize what we pay our fighters are you concerned about somebody coming at you with that type of business model i say it all the time so so whenever these guys ask me you know oh why don't you do this why don't you do this i said why don't you go raise some money and start your own fucking organization and you pay them whatever you want and run it however you want to don't worry about how i run run my business.
But you're not worried that somebody's going to do that. I welcome it.
Competition sharpens everyone's knives. I fucking love it.
Dive in. There's no barrier to entry here.
Raise some money. Anybody can go raise some capital and get out there and pay them however you want, how much you want, and tell whoever you want.
All right, so while we're on the money train, how much are you going to pay Hezbollah to be in UFC pay-per-view? Because I would pay anything to watch him. He doesn't even have to fight.
He just has to hang out. It's incredible.
He's awesome. I mean, this guy is fascinating.
And you met him, right? You met him recently. We were just Saturday.
We were at the fight together. Did he try to punch you? No, he didn't try to punch me.
He tries to punch everyone. Yeah, he doesn't try.
He does. He punches everybody.
He didn't punch me, though. We're pals.
And so are you going to get him involved at all or no? I don't know. I don't know if he wants to get involved.
And from what I hear, his father is super protective of him. Got it.
And if that's the case, you don't want your kid fighting. They keep having those.
I see all the posters for him trying to fight that one other guy. They went at it that night at the fight.
How would you rank Hezbollah as a fighter? Do you see something in him? Is he quick? I have no idea. I haven't seen enough.
I enough i saw him punch nogara in the face i saw him uh punch a couple other guys in the face it's awesome honestly like i saw that although he did he did land a kick on that kid that night in the stomach yeah you guys see that i did yeah i and honestly i'm i'm a little bit afraid of him i think that he could beat me up i really do like his it's like one of those mantis shrimp have you ever seen them like flick their little uh arms out and they go like 500 miles per hour i honestly think he could we should do him and revel at least they're the same size yeah that would be great i'd i'd take you're too big for revel yes all day um what's uh the future for connor because obviously he broke his leg uh i think i, he could still sell pay-per-views.

He's, in my personal opinion, he's in that later Tyson zone

where it's like, I'm still buying it.

You know what I mean?

Like, even if he hasn't won in a long time

and he, you know, maybe hasn't had the best fights,

I'm still buying it.

So, what's your threshold there for a fighter who can sell but maybe can't fight at the peak that he was at? What's the question? So Conor McGregor. Do I think he'll sell? No, no.
I know he sells, but is there a threshold where it's like, if he's not good enough, or is it just, if you can sell, you can sell, you'll, you'll be. Well, he's still one of the top 10 guys in the world.
Yeah. I mean, he's still one of the top 10 best guys in the world so he's still he can he can anytime he wants he's he's headlining any pay-per-view when he calls you i don't know i mean it would depend on who he was fighting and things like that but yeah i would have to say connor coming back is as a headliner yes yes but you know what i mean i guess a better way to ask question is like is there a point where if a guy starts not being good and Conor's not there yet, he's obviously not his peak anymore.
Right. But if there's a guy who's not good anymore, but he can sell, do you say, fuck it, I don't care, you can sell, we're going to keep putting this on? No, no.
Eventually, once you get enough, you know, once you start to go in that direction, you know, listen, I try to do, you know, when a guy gets to Conor's level we've we've been having this conversation about nate diaz right yeah okay yes nate diaz's level and nate's been with us forever and you know these guys are making big money big money so you know i i want these guys to stick around and and get as much as they can before it's over but you said that you said that about nate like that n what Nate used to be. Well we were having this conversation yesterday that Robbie was telling me the fans were saying you're throwing him to the Wolves you're throwing him to the Wolves well he's lost three of his last four and they said that since he's only got one fight left on his contract we're trying to throw him to the Wolves and whatever he's lost three of his last four so what are you saying if he loses this one against Hamzat Sh would be the one that would devalue him? Right.
Because that's what they're saying. We're trying to devalue him.
Well, I mean, Nate also. The guy's lost three of his last four.
What are you talking about? So should I put up, look for like a fight that would be a late? Exactly. It's just not what we do.
We put the best against the best. And when you look at a guy like Nate Diaz and you say he lost three of his last four, he lost three of his last four against bad motherfuckers.
And he also is really good at losing but winning. He really is.
Because he just runs out of time. It's a great point.
But what we do isn't what everybody else does. We put the best against the best and and we put on the best possible fights that we can make.
And Nate Diaz, unfortunately, all fighters, all athletes get to an age where just, listen, we're winding down here and whatever. The question is, where is Nate Diaz? And that's a good answer.
It was a terrible question by me. I was too long-winded.
But it is interesting looking at the fight game right now because a lot of the fight game, and I'm talking about boxing as well, is becoming like, let's just sell pay-per-views, not care about the product. And what you're saying is it's going to be product first no matter what.
100%. Always.
So we got to the answer I was looking for. I appreciate it.
Fights first. Listen, there's no sustainable business model in putting on freak show fights.
There's no sustainable business. Ruff and Rowdy's pretty good.
It's not freak show. Ruff and Rowdy, our boxing league.
Just because we use the term freak show to promote it doesn't mean it's actually a freak show. That's a freak show.
No, it's not. Come on.
Is there a science to figuring out how to match some of these fighters up? Because you've got some great fighters like Israel Adesanya is one that comes to mind. I love watching him fight sometimes.
Other times, he just gets matched up with a guy that for whatever reason, it's like they just they don't get along in the ring. And not in a way like I'm going to beat the shit out of the other guy.
out of the other guy but the styles don't work together for whatever reason just ends up being a boring fight is there a science like what have you learned about how to how to combine different types of fighters like a brawler with a wrestler or a guy that you know is like israel who's more reliant on you know some striking with a certain other type of fighter well the truth is once you get here and you get to that level, all of these guys are well-rounded and can, you know, if a guy's trying to hold them down, they can get back up. If a guy's trying to stall up against the fence, they can get off the fence.
It's just very rare in the UFC that you'll see a fight that's that one-sided and boring where a guy just, this guy can't wrestle

and he just gets held down all night.

Yeah. What's the next

big thing for UFC? Or is it just like, you guys

are just cruising. There's nothing

because you all, it is a weird game

where it's like, you guys are cruising, but you

know how sports work and content

works and entertainment works. You always got to be one

step ahead. 100%.
We're on fire

right now. The business is on fire.
All the fights that we've been putting on have been incredible. And right now I'm opening another performance institute in Mexico.
I want to open one in Puerto Rico and I want to open one in Africa. So once we get this one done in Mexico, I'll start looking what's next, Puerto Rico or Africa.
Just more fighters and that's good for everyone. for everyone be a place where kids can go in and train for free um learn how to lift weights the proper way learn how to cut weight the proper way and even if everybody that comes out of the performance institute doesn't become a professional fighter they'll probably become a coach or start teaching jiu-jitsu or training or you know just impacts the sport five ten fifteen years down the road yeah what's the future for fight island big big future yeah are you gonna apologize for kind of being a fraud and and getting what appears to be a peninsula and calling it an island and also not putting it on a beach even though i know you tried to put it on a beach it's called yaz Yaz Island.
Yaz Island? Yaz Island. I'm looking at it right now.
You know why it's called Yaz Island? Because it's a fucking island. Okay? It's a man-made island.
Oh, yeah? I don't know. So you two of the guys have determined what's an island and what's not an island? Yes, actually.
If I dig a ditch that goes around an arena, does that make it an island? And then I put a hose in it and I fill that up with water. Sounds like a fucking moat.
This is not an island at all. It's absolutely an island.
It's not an island. No.
It's an island. That's the fakest island I've ever seen.
It's an island. Are you going to get a real island? No, that's the island.
Get a real island. Listen, you fucking haters.
Don't be pissed off because I'm the only one that figured out how to go through COVID.

This is a fake ass island.

Yeah, you did.

I mean, that was very impressive that you were the first sport to come back, which I do appreciate.

What percentage of your day has just spent reminding yourself to dunk on people that said that you were going to ruin the world?

Oh, I fucking love it.

I love it.

I put out a whole piece on it, you know, after the, you know, call people out by name and what. I saw that.
Yeah. That was actually a pretty funny video.
Like it was truly a Dana White like mixtape. An N1 tape.
The beautiful thing these days is when the media says and does dumb shit, we can actually respond and, you know, call them out on their bullshit yeah my whole thing when that happened was i understood people's concern because nobody really knew what was going on right there were there were obviously like a lot of safety factors that you could put in place to mitigate those risks but i was concerned just because like no one knew how this thing was going to spread but i was still rooting for it to work i feel like a lot of people are rooting for it not to work because they they don't like you 100 like it shouldn't have been one of these things where you're rooting against somebody it's objectively a good thing to try to get sports and athletics and these distractions back on tv and the stuff that we care about and people are passionate about so that's why it never occurred to me to like to actively be like man i really hope that dana gets half the world sick so here's the reality this is america since when don't we try we're just gonna go fucking hide in our house for how long right hide in our house we're not gonna try to to figure this thing out and if this thing like was that deadly and was was that all fucked anyway you know from a virus? You're going to hide in your house from a virus? No. I'm no fucking rocket scientist, but let me tell you what.
It doesn't work that way. Yeah, I mean, you found a fake island and you put up camp there.
I was just happy to have sports back. That's one of those things that, like, we don't really, none of us really realize how much sports really mean to everyone.
It's true. Until it went away.
So true. And you're like, wait, what? Me too.
Yeah. I would have watched fucking golf if it was on.
Everything. We did.
I had people watching my fucking fake football seasons on video games. Right.
So it's like, that's just where we were at. I remember the match.
Yeah. That first match was Tom Brady and Peyton Manning.
Yeah. I was like, hell yeah, sports is back on TV.
I can build my whole day around it. All right, my last question, and everyone go UFC 268 Saturday night, Usman versus Covington at Madison Square Garden.
It's going to be sick. It's going to be awesome.
Actually worked out nicely for you, too. Not a great college football card on saturday so there's no reason not

to be watching ufc come saturday night uh do you still like every fight night do you still get that

like chill and like holy shit this is awesome i do yeah that's great and i'll i'll definitely get

it on saturday i mean the the three top fights uh you know gaichi versus chandler weili zhang

versus note rose and uh obviously uzman versus covington gonna be badass yeah because it's

I'm sorry. top fights uh you know gaichi versus chandler weili jang versus note rose and uh obviously uzman versus covington it's gonna be badass yeah because it's uh there's nothing like a big fight night there really isn't there's nothing in sports like a big fight night and then you got the buzz and the energy that's gonna be inside the garden that night and it's sold out it's gonna be fucking packed and what let me do an addendum to my last question last last question what's your favorite place non-las vegas to do fights yeah i mean it would be hard not to say new york city you know um yeah off the radar what's one that you're like people wouldn't think of this but i love when we go here well people would probably think of this one too but uh the o2 in london okay you know yeah you go into london for for a big fight and you get the energy there and and there's this thing about being in europe where the fans act differently than they do over here you know they start singing and chanting and it's it's pretty badass sounds like you need to get our guy patty the baddie yeah no listen wait wait till we go back to england with him okay it'll be'm going to be advocating for him.
Yeah. We want him to be, you know, I want him in the next year to be fighting main event.
We're all aligned here. Okay, good, good, good, good, good.
All right, well, everyone go buy it. Awesome.
Thank you for coming by, Dana. We really appreciate it.
Thanks for having me, boys. Always fun.
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Okay, let's wrap up. We got Fyre Fest of the Week.
Henry. Daniel.
Let's hear it. I mean, your back blew your back out.
Blew the fuck out of my back out. I saw you doing a lot of thrusting stretches.
Been doing a lot of stretching, a lot of thrusting. Yeah.
Building up the core. But my FireFest of the week is probably that I was a little bit, I guess, in hindsight, maybe a little bit dramatic about my back publicly when it happened.
No, because at the time. In real time, it did feel like I broke my back.
So that's my FireFest. I said multiple times in tweets and videos that my back was broken and i didn't think i'd be ever be able to walk again and at the time no i i didn't think i was going to be able to walk i don't think you if you had anything like i've had none of your reactions were over the top but i have recovered i am able to walk i've been coming into the office and obviously we work with a lot of people there's a lot of people here a lot of people we deal with on a day-to-day basis and they're all very concerned with me and i've had to have the conversation of like oh my god how's your back and i'm i'm like you know it's fine it's it's not that bad they're like well you said it was broken i was like well that was i thought it was but it's not so my fire fest is just having the amount of small talk i've had to do and the amount of times I've had to explain people that.
Basically, the chiropractor told me it's 25% slipped disc, which is what Big Cat has had, and if that's the case, it's really bad. Or it's 75% the back's version of a sprained ankle, which with stretching...
Worse than a break, though.

Yeah, with stretching and stuff,

you know, it can be fine,

which I'm guessing it is.

It sounds like a really good doctor that you went to that was like,

it's probably...

Well, no, he says it takes...

It could be this, it could be the...

A chiropractor, though, right?

So a witch doctor.

Yeah, apparently chiropractors are fake,

but this guy was legit.

Shout out to him.

But it's more just...

It takes...

Because I said it can happen, you know, up to a week later where you you know you feel your disc or whatever yeah i think my fire fest is just the amount of small talk i've had to do and the amount of people asking me about my back and thinking that i'm really really bad and i'm actually like fine i think that chiropractors are just people that that they teach you how to crack your neck and back in such a way that they won't die that it'll feel good right and then people And then people are like, wow, I love my chiropractor because, yeah, it feels awesome to crack your back or your neck. Yeah.
But I'm glad that you're back. Hank, you said on Sunday, I will golf again.
Yeah. Wow.
And Hank's just built different, recovering from basically a broken back in four days. This is incredible.
It's too bad we could have run like a 5K for you. Get Hank back in the golf course.
There's still time. Have you thought about maybe changing the way that you sit at work? Maybe you get a stand-up desk? We all sit like shit.
Yeah. No, my posture's bad.
Really bad. No, I've just been doing a lot of stretching.
All right, good. Good.
We all should stretch more. As a whole podcast, we should be stretching more.
And I'm going to to be on the quest for an ass this winter. As a quest for an ass? You're going to find an ass.
Brazilian butt lift. Will you be doing that? No, au natural.
Oh, you're going to be squatting. Ass to grass.
Love it. All right, PFT, you're Fyre Fest of the Week.
I love that, Hank. I love that.
My Fyre Fest is that- uh wait can I actually say one thing on that yep

uh totally normal that whenever there's a picture of me or Hank taken that like half the comments are dudes being like you got no ass just gonna say just gonna say look in the mirror guys look in the mirror just look in the mirror okay we're gonna get you an ass though Hank it's the last thing I do. RDLs.
Yep, definitely. Reverse deadlifts.
Romanian. He's too quad dominant.
Yeah. That's a good problem.
He doesn't activate his glutes enough. Bonus sleeper.
Like, bro, you're too quad dominant. No hamstrings.
All right, PFT. My Firefest of the week is that the Colonial Athletic Association is a bunch of frauds, and they ban James Madison University from their postseason tournaments because JMU, the University of Virginia, is leaving to go to the Sun Belt.
They're going to make up what's going to be a conference that is, no joke, better than the ACC right now in football. When them, Marshall, Coastal joins.
App State. It's going to be a great conference.
But since JMU decided to leave the CAA, the CAA's president and their commissioner voted to ban their student athletes from participating in postseason tournaments. Fuck that.
So they're taking the monetary thing out on the students that are there. It's bullshit.
The commissioner's name is Joey D'Antoni. Oh.
No commentey no comment joey d'antoni boy joey d'antoni listen to me very carefully joey you do not want to make a mistake here my friend don't take it out on the students because the other presidents of the universities are greedy i heard a rumor nasty rumor out there that joey gets paid four hundred thousand dollars a year my guess is that's just to make the conference look good and to take all the all the aggression that people have. And he's basically the Roger Goodell of the CAA.
But Joey, do the right thing. That's all I'm going to say.
Do the right thing. Do the right thing.
I know a guy that has access to all the memes on the internet. I pulled him back earlier today.
I restrained the Vin dog. Maybe next week I won't be so generous.
Oh, shit. It's kind of like that Oklahoma State basketball story.
They banned them from the postseason again. A bunch of kids now that were in middle school when the initial crime was committed that wasn't even a crime.
The moral of that story is do not cooperate with the NCAA. Just do what LSU does.
So stupid. And be like, yeah, we're not going to help you in your investigation.
Because the investigation uncovered, it was like, what, like 20 bucks worth? It was a stupid, stupid investigation. The moral is really don't ever cooperate with the NCAA.
And also, don't take it out on the kids that are there right now when it's somebody else's problem. Nothing to do with it.

Let the kids play, CAA.

Let the kids play.

All right, my Fyre Fest, you'd think it would be the fact that I had a root canal on Tuesday, but that actually is not my Fyre Fest. My Fyre Fest is, so I think it's because it's football season.
You're just working a million hours, very tired. I went to the ATM on Tuesday and went to punch in my pin, four-digit pin.
I've had the same pin for probably 15 years. Fellas, it's just not in my brain anymore.
When was the last time you went to the ATM? A week ago. It's just not in my brain anymore.
Are you okay? There is no pin. I sat there.
I typed in five different pins. They're like, next one will lock you out.
Took the card and walked away. The pin does not exist.
It's like that guy with Bitcoin. In my brain.
It's fucking wild. I couldn't.
It's something that you do that is so like muscle memory. What are the last four of your socials? No, I'm not going to.
Guys, it's wild. I just don't have the pin anymore.
It's vanished from my brain. I think it's probably because some stupid stat about Mike White or the Chiefs Against the Spread just pushed that pin out of my ears and it's forever gone.
Just close your eyes. Dude, I tried to do that.
I went back the next day, did it again. No pin.
Yeah, just don't even look at the numbers. Just let your fingers do the talking.
I've attempted it like nine times now. Mrs.
Cat doesn't know the pin? No pin. Have you tried? No pin.
6-9, 6-9. I'm going to go during regular hours and they can switch it.
So it's not like a... You're going to be like, this is embarrassing.
No, the issue will will be solved Except for the fact that I lost my pin in my brain

And what's next

Yeah, maybe after you switch it

And just curious, what was the old pin?

I don't think they can give it to you

Which is going to drive me insane

Have you considered microdosing?

Maybe unlock that part of your brain

Dude, no pin, gone

It's in there somewhere

Has that ever happened to you guys?

No pin

Remember this happened to me a couple months ago

I sat down at my computer

And I just didn't have the password

I'm going to go guys? No pin. Remember this happened to me a couple months ago? I sat down at my computer, and I just didn't have the password? That one I was able to get back by just going and taking a shit and then coming back and just doing it.
I don't like the look that Billy just gave, because Billy has identified that there might be a serious problem here that he's worried about. Yeah, no, he's definitely diagnosed me.
I mean, unsurprisingly, my short-term memory is also shot i think i just need to take like a i don't know somewhere between 48 hour to seven month nap and i think i'll get the pin just hibernate billy what's your diagnosis bro football talk oh boy i i don't want to say it okay dementia no billy's definitely thinking like how quickly is big cat going to die so I can take his job? He is getting old. He is.
And those gray hairs are going to be 30. How old? 37.
37. I didn't even.
Hank is also getting old. No, I do that all the time.
That was one thing that freaked me out the first time I forgot how old I was. Because I think I've already told myself I'm 37.
Somebody asked me, and I was like, I'm 34, and I was 32 at the time. Yeah, we're 36.
We're going to be 37. Yeah, Billy's definitely sharpening those knives right now.
That's okay. You can take my job.
I'd actually love for you. I would love for you to do one week of my job and just see how it goes.
I do not want your job. Okay.
That's a lie. But If you needed to do it...
Just tell me how you're going to... You don't have time to work out.
That's true. Tell me how you're going to do it.
Are you going to poison me? I'm not going to kill you. Are you going to push me in front of a train? It's just going to cut to black.
Just let me know how it's going to happen so that I can be a little bit prepared. You're going to invite me over? Love and kindness.
Oh, you're going to love me. Aaron Rodgers.
Yeah. I think peace and love.
I think you should pick him up. You should tell Big Cat that a loved one of his is in the hospital.
Pick him up in a car. I'm not going to kill Big Cat.
Drive him down the highway. On your way to the hospital, pull over in a leafy area.
And then when he tries to escape the car, you shoot him. That's what I think you should do.
I know that reference, but no one else here does. No, that's what happened to Audrey on there.
Oh, Hank. Oh, Hank.
Come on, Hank. Why would you do that? You know how I know that from you fucking assholes.
Pine barons. Billy, now.
That's not the same episode. Billy's not going to kill me because he's already made the diagnosis that I'm going to die soon on my own fucking natural causes.

Yeah, Billy's low-key stoked.

Are you worried about me or are you diagnosed? I'm a little worried.

He gave a look. Make no mistake.

Billy gave a look. That was

serious Billy like, oh my god, he's got

this that I read about in the bodybuilding forums.

Well, it's all the same look. It's the

dog looking at the garage door going up

look.

Tilted head.

He's got something in his breath, like a lack of a certain type Thank you. It's all the same look.
It's the dog looking at the garage door going up look. Huh?

The tilted head.

Huh?

He's got something in his brain, like a lack of a certain type of protein in his brain

that Billy's concerned about.

Yeah.

Just say it.

How much LSD have you done in your life?

Good question.

LSD, none.

Huh.

Mushrooms a lot.

Interesting.

Yeah.

I was just scared that I would just take LSD and just never come back.

Mentally.

Turn into a glass of orange juice.

Yeah, just mentally never come back.

All right.

Your Fyre Fest.

Billy.

Try to top that, bitch.

I can't figure out how to turn my heat on in the apartment.

Okay, that sucks.

It's getting cold.

Yeah.

Well, in a lot of places in New York and New Jersey, they just do it for you.

Yeah.

I know. So I don't think my landlords turn the heat on because I keep hitting the knob.
It's not working. Uh-huh.
So. Maybe Ben Mentz has just never experienced heat in an apartment before.
He's been in the South his whole life. That's true.
We don't live in the same apartment, for the record. Pretty much.
Do you share utilities? Yes. Okay.
You live in the same apartment. Yes.
Yes. If you knock down one wall.
No, we both use the same. There's like, it's two different apartments.
There's two different bathrooms. You answered that question incorrectly.
Two different bedrooms. You share a squat rack.
One main hall that connects you. If someone shot a gun through one of the walls, could it collateral hit both of you? I hear Ben a lot in his apartment.
Got it. Doing various activities.
The walls are very thin. Well, Ben's not exactly a quiet guy.
Yeah. A lot of phone calls.
Alright. Jake.
Tuesday morning, 6am, toilet was making weird noises, got woken up, opened the lid, and it was steaming. What? The super had to come in at 6 a.m.
The soup had to come in at 6 a.m. What? It was crazy.
So your toilet was on fire? Not on fire. I still don't know what happened, but everything was fixed.
Holy shit. That's a tough alarm clock in the form of a toilet.
Damn. That one you can't go back to sleep.
No. Right.
You immediately make that call. Yeah.
So was it hot? No.

It was just some steam. Huh.

It was just boiling. It feels like

there's something bad about to happen in the sewer system

here. Ghostbusters.
The rats are

taking over. Yeah.

Alright. Good show, boys.

Numbers.

97. 91.

Let's get one. Someone get one.
Someone get one.

Manish shrimp. Shoot as hard as a bullet.
18. 6-9.
97. 91.
Let's get one. Someone get one.
Someone get one. Manish shrimp.

Shoot as hard as a bullet.

18.

6-9.

97.

Oh, 18.

Wait.

14 is out.

33.

38 is out.

Three.

Second time.

There it is.

Love you guys. Talking away I don't know what I'm to say I'll say it anyway Today is another day To find you shying away I'll be coming for your love again Take on me Take me home I'll be gone In a day or two So needless to say I'm odds and ends But that's me, I'm stumbling away Slowly learning that life is okay And say after me It's no better to be safe than sorry and take on me Take me on I'll be gone

In a tale tomb guitar solo Thank you. I know things that you say Is it liable Just to play my worries away You're all the things I've got to remember You're shying away I'll be coming for you anyway Take on me Take me on I'll be gone in a day or two I'll be gone in a day or two Ooh a day or two Thank you so much.
Thank you, guys. Thank you so much.
Thank you guys.

Thank you. Thank you very much.

Wonderful.