Christian Yelich, Pete Alonso’s Derby Pitcher Dave Jauss & Big Ben’s Diet

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We have a baseball episode of Part of My Take.

Christian Yelich, good friend of the program.

He joins us.

We have a new bet with him, and we're very excited to have him on the show.

We also have Pete Alonzo's pitcher from last night's Home Run Derby, Dave Jouse,

and he is probably the most interesting baseball lifer there is. So we talked to him.
Great storyteller. Been in baseball for 40-plus years.
Awesome interview with him. We also have Big Ben on a Diet, Billy's QB list, Hot Seat, Cool Throne, Tears.
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Holy shit, can you believe what Shohei Otani did in the All-Star game? It's incredible. He struck out the side.
Perfect game. Homered.
Excuse me, a perfect inning. And then he hit back-to-back home runs.
Yeah, so we're actually recording the show before the All-Star game because, yeah, we're doing it. We're just doing it, and it was a great game.
Shohei Otani was incredible. Joe Buck.
We stay up for sports when they matter. Yeah.
This one, we're going to let go. But we have a great baseball show for you.
It was actually funny. So today on Greeny, the radio show, which I'm sure you've already listened to.
Please don't do this. His producer said, went off on like a three-minute rant, crying about how certain players aren't playing in the All-Star game.
And he just wants them to care as much about the game as he cares about the game. You don't have a car.
How are you listening to this? Oh, I got a guy that clips up portions and sends it to me. Yeah, because Jacob DeGrom really needs to be starting in the All-Star game.
That would be smart. The guy who gets injured every, like, fourth day.
But we have a huge baseball episode for you. Christian Yalich has a great interview.
And then Dave Jouse, who threw BP to Pete Alonzo, who we should have mentioned is the home run derby champ. People are mad because the rules of the home run derby are getting, people are getting cheated left and right in terms of when the last pitch is eligible.
I think we're at a point now where we care too much about these rules. The only reason I care about it is because they took what was quite literally the simplest competition in sports which is hit ball over fence next person you try to hit more balls over fence than first person did and then they put a clock in it they added extra time based on uh stat cast they started measuring like exit velocity no hold on wait before before even the extra time because of stat cast i don't you noticed this, but it was three minutes, then you get 30 seconds extra time just for being there.
That's three minutes and 30 seconds. And you get a timeout that you can incorporate at any time.
Timeouts should never be incorporated into the home run derby. It's a very simple process, Big Cat.
You have a guy pitch you a ball, and then you hit the ball over a fence. You mash taters.

It's the most American thing ever.

And then if you can smash more dongs in the next guy,

then you get that giant bat trophy from Century 21 or whatever.

And a car and a truck.

So, yeah, and the ESPN broadcast made no sense.

There was just graphics everywhere.

All I wanted to see was taters get hit.

I wanted to see kids get hurt, which one kid did.

Shout out to that kid. Hope you're okay.
I want to see guys fall down. That also happened.
But that's it. You don't have to make something that is so simple and so like it is the ultimate just turn on the TV, turn your brain off, watch big man hit long ball.
And then have bigger man, Chris Berman, just say, that's back.

Back. Back.
Back. Back.
Back.

We don't ask for a lot, Big Cat.

And sweat. And John Kruk needs to sweat as well.

John Kruk needs to sweat. Chris Berman

needs to stay back. Mark Tashir needs to

be sitting there wearing a jockstrap, not really

saying much of anything.

We don't ask for a lot out of our sports, but I feel like

the Home Run Derby is something that

this is really like the feather in his cap, the pièce de résistance for Rob Manfred. Be like, I fucked up the Home Run Derby.
Yeah. No one thought I could do that.
No one thought I could do that. So simple.
But yeah, I mean, Pete Alonso was incredible, and Dave Joust was incredible. We have him on the show.
I don't want to trash Pete Alonso, because again, we do have his pitcher on the show. Great guy.
All-time baseball guy. And I like Pete Alonso.
But, man, see, he's coming back from colon cancer. Can we just not let him win? Yeah.
Like, he was fucking awesome last night. Yeah.
Yeah, I think, though, I think Pete Alonso probably was like, look, finals, that's good enough. Yeah.
For the cancer survivor. Like, that's kind of like, hey, you know, there was a moment.
Now I got to go beat you. Yeah, it's true.
It's true. He wasn't going to turn it off, but I think everybody at home was like, what a story would be if Manson...
Because it is... Coming back from colon cancer, it's fucking incredible what he's done.
Yes, insane. And Shohei Otani, though, come on.
We all turned in for you. We all tuned in for you, and that was – he was ripping doubles, and that's about it.
Like, I know he went to the extra time, but, like, come on, man. You have to get out of the first round for the people.
Yeah, I mean, Juan Soto did hit that bomb 520 feet. Yeah.
So the over-under – Which cashed it. The over-under on that – It's clutch.
Yeah, that was very clutch. Over-under was 5 519.5 feet, which I think would be the longest home run hit in the last 20 years.
Like the StatCaster. Why are you looking at me? It's something like that.
I don't know. I don't know.
Because you knew the over-under, which was 519.5. Yeah, I knew that, but I do not know how long the longest home run was.
Yeah, so that's how high the over-under was set. Kyle Schwarber's home run where he hit in the river in Pittsburgh.
Yeah, that was 2015. Actually, the one against the Cardinals, that one hasn't landed.
Okay, but Juan Soto essentially hit the longest home run of the last five years and only beat the over by half a foot. Yes.
And thank God I bet on it. Thank God.
Thank God we got that. So way to go, Childish Bambino, which is a great nickname.
All right. What? How great would it have been if Castellanos had been playing? Yeah.
How just something tragic had happened? Yeah, it would have been so wonderful. The kid definitely would have gotten hurt during his at-bat.
Yeah. Absolutely.
There would have been an ambulance on the field. Has it ever happened where in the home run derby somebody hits a home run and while the ball's still in the air, hasn't landed yet, they hit another one out? Yeah, that's the whole...
Oh, the Josh Hamilton. That happened that...
Wait, that was a few years ago, too. That was the whole thing with Schwarber as well.
They were saying that it was illegal. Because there's an ump there who watches the whole thing, which I love, love, love.
The ump in the home run derby and the ref in the three-point contest. Just sitting there and whistling it.
That guy, just mail-in city. But I guess what I'm asking asking is has there ever been a player that's hit a home run that went so high that his next pitch that he hit had actually landed before the first i don't know if that that has happened but i know that there was multiple that was like a lapped himself yes yes um all right so other stories we got big ben on a diet one of the funniest greatest stories out of out of training camp big ben is officially year 18 in the nfl he is going to die i likened it to after a long weekend of drinking and eating terrible food and you say to yourself you know what i'm going to eat a salad on monday everything will up i'll maybe do 20 push-ups wow i'm i'm back that's what Big Ben is doing as a career where he spent 17 years eating P.F.
Chang and and and doing whatever he wants and then year 18 he's like why is Tom Brady playing still oh because he eats healthy you know what honey get me a vegetable let me try one of these things I don't know if you saw the report Big Cat but the report was that he is doing the tb12 method except the ben roethlisberger method is more strict than the tb12 method so is it the big ben bb7 or is it br7 i think i think it's a br7 diet i think it's basically like no meat before breakfast it's probably just not eating he's probably going to see how long he can fast yeah get like he's going to get to 1045 in the morning. I want him very badly to come up with his own nutrition plan.

Yes.

It's like for every milkshake that you drink, you have to have a glass of water.

Or at least a Sierra Mist.

Did you see the report coming from this guy, Ryan Burr,

who had one of the weirdest conversations with himself about Big Ben.

I'm going to read you just a couple tweets because they're very good.

He started, just his credentials real quick. I started covering Ben as a basketball player in high school.
I was in Toledo, played wide receiver on a football team because coach's son was a QB. Ben Roethlisberger was QB senior year, made most of it, covered him at Miami of Ohio.
That was first transformation. Day after drafted by the Steelers, sent me to his house house for the interview in Pittsburgh saw Roethlisberger transform again into star QB that didn't go well I mean he won a Super Bowl whatever motorcycle booze women okay that's that's the women part is doing a lot of work yeah so then he quotes he's quote treating himself by the way this whole thread he doesn't know how to thread he said then he married was forced to settle down i'm sure rothberger's wife would love that what happened yeah wait i'm trying to put together that order chronologically so first it was motorcycles and women no no first first it was wide receiver to quarterback yeah then okay yeah no one's ever done that The correct way to go.
Yes. Then there was a motorcycle and then a woman.
Booze. End of the, a booze woman.
Booze the middle. Motorcycle booze women.
I think it's actually booze, motorcycle booze women. Yes.
And then after that, it was, he gets married and then he settles down afterwards. Right.
After he gets married. Yeah.
Then he married, was forced to settle down. He's really overcoming a lot of adversity.
Yes, right. Okay, hold on.
But the narrative of beer-guzzling Lazy Ben never went away. Okay, then we get to find me an athlete and professional.
I'm quoting this exactly. Find me an athlete and professional sport that gets blamed for everything as much as Ben Roethlisberger.
From source inethlisberger camp he is tired of it his ego is tired of it that's just ben right we can agree that this is the source in roethlisberger's camp it's just like ben goes upstairs and uses the landline yeah you you admitted at the beginning of this that you've been covering him since he was like 14 years old you know him well enough that he's just telling you this find me an athlete and professional sport that gets blamed for everything as much as Ben Roethlisberger. From source in Roethlisberger camp, he is tired of it.
His ego is tired of it. If Steelers don't run the ball, it's because Ben Roethlisberger only wants shotgun.
If offensive line has trouble, Ben Roethlisberger holds ball too long. If defense struggles, Ben Roethlisberger scores too quick.
Listen, I have seen the total a-hole Ben. I have seen the unprepared, out-of-shape Ben.
I am told, for what it's worth, those former Ben's have been buried in a grave. Big Ben's spirals are so tight that defensive backs can't help but intercept them once they get their hands on them.
They're so damn catchable. I'm sick of him getting blamed for those that's that is fucking hilarious i also good job ben none of it is true good job well i do think that like the first three things that you mentioned could probably be true it's like yeah big ben doesn't want to do anything but run out of shotgun yes that's true yeah but also ben rosberger does not get blamed more than any athlete in sports that's just not true.
I think he probably gets blamed more than any athlete on the Steelers in the last 10 years because he's the quarterback of the Steelers. And I don't even think that's true because think about who they had.
They had guys that everyone hated. No, it's still Ben.
No, but they had guys that ran. I mean, think about it.
Antonio Brown. They had LeSean McCoy.
They had guys. Or Le'Veon Bell.
Sorry, Le'Veon Bell. They had guys that everyone was like, that's their fault.
Ben has actually gotten one of the greatest passes in sports because he won early, and he's a Hall of Fame quarterback. This isn't anti-Ben.
This is just like Ben going going mega here where he's saying listen if you thought the the injuries were not enough well here's also my ego has been ben's being a little extra right now he's been a little extra because he's starting to hear all the talk it's about that time of year where people start to say ben roethlisberger is the worst quarterback in his division again yeah that's always a hot button topic that you can say and i just want it on the record for the billionth time i like ben roethlisberger is the worst quarterback in his division again. Yeah.
That's always a hot-button topic that you can say. And I just want it on the record for the billionth time.
I like Ben Roethlisberger. I think he's fucking, first of all, he's funny.
Second of all, I've always said that he's like, I would take him, maybe not now, but for the majority of his career, I said I'd take him over anyone in terms of a fourth quarter situation. So Steelers fans that are going to get mad at us, Big Ben is funny to joke about.
It's just a fact. You have to be able to laugh at Big Ben.
The fact that he was like, he did a documentary by himself that basically had a doctor saying they've never seen an injury quite like what Big Ben went through. And then after that documentary was like, you know what? This isn't enough.
I need to also have a report that I'm the most like criticized athlete of all time what the fuck are we talking about he's got now he's got a diet yeah big ben the martyr it's the martyr diet the bb7 method which is just something green has to be in your refrigerator all times that's the kind of diet guy that big ben is we've all been in that situation where you just open up the door and you're like, okay, there's a salad in my refrigerator. I'm currently on a diet.
That's healthy. It just has to all he really needs to do is skim milk.
That's the Big Ben method. You know what? I'm going to skim and I will every now and then I'll eat a carrot, but I won't like it, but I'll eat it.
Skim milk and unflavored lube. But seriously, this is the most relatable that Big Ben has ever been because he is that, like, choosing year 18 to start a diet, like, you've never seen a Ben like this.
His metabolism can't work anymore. Like, I'm a later 30s male.
I know what metabolism does to you. Like, there's just no way you could be like, hey, you know what? At 36, I'm about, or 39 i or 39 i think he is now but i'm 36 i'm about to get in the best shape of my life like no that's a fact that you will not you can't you can do everything you want but you will not be in the best shape of your life do you think we'd be allowed to write his diet book like the tb12 method if we just did it on our own and sold it i think people would buy it yeah b7 i mean it's a good I mean, it's pretty easy.
It's like, if you're going to Buffalo Wild Wings, get a Diet Coke.

Yeah. Still get the wings and the fries and everything, but get a Diet Coke.
I honestly think just no meat before breakfast should pretty much settle all those weight issues. Yeah, the old classic, when you get a steak instead of the fries, rice pilaf not a salad not a side salad rice

pilaf uh no cajun fries no standard fries yeah you don't want to with sodium you can ask for the

old bay on the side and maybe sprinkle some on on your own yes uh i would say like uh if you're

going to a seafood restaurant only one deep fried item per dinner it can be your main dish yep but

just don't get the deep fried clams and the deep fried tilapia yeah and the calamari well calamari

Thank you. only one deep fried item per dinner.
It can be your main dish, but just don't get the deep fried clams and the deep fried tilapia.

Yeah, and the calamari.

Well, calamari.

Calamari is not, that's not seafood.

That's totally on the side.

No, no, it's not trash, but Ben can get it.

You know, I think like things like

maybe two mozzarella sticks instead of six.

I would say never eat over half of any appetizer

that's ordered to the table.

You get up to 49%.

I've heard that. instead of six i would say um never eat over half of any appetizer that's ordered to the table you get up you get up to 49 49 okay 49 and i'm not talking about if it's you and your lovely bride who you truly enjoy being married to that you didn't have to settle down for yes um when you go out to dinner with her like yeah you can go 65 70 all day yes because like you're a growing boy still you're big ben athlete.
You need to recover. Yes.
But if you're out with a family and you got like three kids around, limit yourself to 49. Oh, here's it.
When you go to PF Chainz, because you go to PF Chainz every single week, maybe go with not the pan-fried potstickers, do the boiled potstickers. That's actually right there.
I don't know. No, that would solve it all.
Oh, here's all you have to do, Ben. Just tell everybody that you bought an air fryer.
Be like, it's so much healthier that way. You don't even have to do shit differently.
Just be like, I got the air fryer. It changed my life.
I just hope Big Ben never retires. I really, truly don't.
I'm going to be so sad when it happens because I need these stories forever. He's the most criticized athlete I've ever seen in my life.
It's not even close. Well, by far.
Like, way more than LeBron James. Yeah.
I mean, it's just the offensive line. You know? But no, it's actually Ben.
He's more persecuted than Colin Kaepernick. He holds the ball too long.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's an absolute fact. Well, that is very true.
Like, the first two things that you read off were what? He demands to have the ball run out of shotgun because he's too lazy to move his feet. True.
And then the second one was, would you just say a second ago? If O-line has trouble, Ben holds the ball too long. Also true.
Yeah. Those are just demonstrably true things.
Yes. Also, I just love that his ego is tired of it.
That Ben got on the phone with this guy and was like, hey, listen, you know, listen, Ben can handle this, but Ben's ego is tired of it. You think Ben gets on the phone, he does like a different voice for his spokesperson?

Like, hey, this is Jonathan from Ben's camp.

He probably just uses his kids' names.

Yeah.

He can't think of anything.

All right.

One other thing before we get to hot seat cultural on USA Basketball sucks.

We just suck.

You know what?

We haven't flipped the switch yet, Big Cat.

But we are getting closer and closer to a not flip switchable scenario.

I just think that we might, like, I'm now.

Okay, there's two ways to look at this. Well, the most important one.

We need Lou Dort.

I know he's Canadian.

Shut up.

Coach K would never lose two games in a row.

He would absolutely never.

You guys roast him day in and day out.

He stops being the USA coach.

They lose to Nigeria and Australia back-to-back.

Coincidence?

I think not.

Is this all shaping up for LeBron James to come back

and become the hero that America needs?

LeBron could help this team.

He refuses to play.

He's got the Monstars to worry about.

No, the Goon Squad.

The Goon Squad to worry about. But isn't this the perfect scenario for LeBron to actually come back? We're getting close to a point where we're begging LeBron James to play for Team USA.
Well, I don't even think it's LeBron. You just need a fucking point guard, and you need a roster that isn't all scores.
Ben Simmons. Carmelo.
No, I said not all scores. Yeah, I said Ben Simmons.
Yeah, no, Ben Simmons, yes. It's also very funny that I watched a little of the game.
It's actually what basketball should be because all of the guys in the NBA are looking for all the fouls that they call in the NBA, and they don't them in like the world in the FIBA, right? So they're doing the jump into a guy. They're doing the, you know, going up for a layup and throwing their head back and the rest are just letting them play.
And it's fucking awesome. But the NBA players don't know what to do about it because all these guys are like that.
They're used to getting those calls. So I think that's one of the problems, and also they just have a roster that's all scorers.

Every guy on that team, what do they do?

Number one, they score.

You know what you need?

You need Marcus Smart.

You need a Bobby Portis.

You need some of these guys, some grit and grind guys.

Charles Oakley.

Charles Oakley.

Bring him back.

You need some guys that are going to get dirty with it.

Lou Dort.

Marcus Smart.

Get him to be an American. Grayson Allen.
Grayson Allen would be great. You need some guys who don't care about getting shots.
They just want to box out and do shit. You don't think it has anything to do with a coach that isn't used to coaching the pros and is used to coaching the college players and bringing players together and coaching them as a team? You don't think that has anything to do with this? The greatest coach of all time? No.
Coach K? No. You know what would happen, though? Thank God Coach K isn't coaching this team

because he would have fucking collapsed on the floor

and been like, I can't coach these guys.

That's a butterfly effect.

They never would have lost these games.

You wait.

But if they did, he would have fucking...

Hank, are you dismissing Nigeria's accomplishments?

They've got some good players in Nigeria.

Listen, losing one game, it's a whatever.

It's not like official sanctioned game.

Losing once is fine.

That happens all the time. Losing two in a row is unacceptable.
Okay, so here's the silver lining. Thank you to the USA because they lost these games so that the points red will be a lot lower.
Thank you, Team USA. Thank you, Team USA.
Also, I mean, you're competing against Dele, who's one of the greatest international players of all time. His game was really designed to play at the Olympic level.
He cares about gold. You need guys.
The roster makes no sense. There's no one else they can pick from, but when you saw who's out there, they're all stars on their teams.
Is Chris Paul going to play? No. Fuck.
Chris Middleton and... But Giannis.
I asked about that question today. Yeah, can Giannis play for us? Giannis, we need Giannis.
No, Chris Middleton's going to play, and I want to say Devin Booker, which that's another scorer. So I don't know.
Maybe Drew Holiday's on the team as well. We got to blow this team up.
We do. I think we have to blow it up already.
You know what they should do is they should just send... They should send Baylor.
Send the Baylor National Championship team. I thought you were going to say send AJ Titties.
Nope. All roads go back to AJ Titties for you.
Have them suck a championship right into those guys. Nope, that wasn't what I was going to say.
Just get a point guard. Just get a point guard.
Yeah, you could get a point guard, I guess. Have Lonzo go on that team.
And blow the whole team? No. Oh, play point guard for the team.
Got it. We need the PMT stats account.
Does he still do stats? How many times has PFT mentioned AJ Titties? You guys just have been bonked crazy recently, though. You bonked me 17 million times on Sunday.
For what? For everything I said. So you did the same to me.
Addison Rae? Yeah. Oh, yeah, you're right.
I did bonk you for that. But to be fair be fair at the time i thought she might have been 17 i i never thought she was 17 for at least for three years i haven't um all right let's get to our hot seat cool throne uh hot seat cool thrones brought to you by our friends at molson coors time for that beer we're ready to go uh listen how many times during quarantine did someone say to you something like, we should grab a beer when bars reopen? Did you think they would follow through? Well, now Miller Lite, Coors Lite, Blue Moon, Peroni, and Leinenkugel are teaming up to help you hold your friends accountable for the beers they said you'd get.
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They also gave us the ice beers. Oh, yeah.
We got the ice beers from Tampa Bay. Champa Bay.
Yeah. I think what we should do is we should save it and drink it when a new – they get the championship for the next year, or if they go three-peat, they get to hold it.
But we shouldn't drink it until they give up the cup. So let's see.
The Bolt's left it all on the ice. We turn that ice into beer in honor of the Tampa Bay Lightning winning back-to-back.
We brewed a limited edition beer made with the team's actual game ice. Does that mean that there's actually blood on this ice? Is there blood in this beer? I don't think so.
Do you know how ice works? There's definitely sweat in this beer. Yes.
Those things look like they could contain some heat, though. For a very long time.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Anyway.
Were you asking if the beer is still frozen? No, he said they're not refrigerated. It hasn't been refrigerated yet.
Like, us personally haven't refrigerated it. And Hank's like, well, there's ice in there.
This is like Blake Bortles seeing snow for the first time. He's like, it's wet.
Right. Anyway, my hot seat is our darling Cake Marsh.
darling cake marsh uh yeah for a couple reasons the first is we are our rematch is back this thursday on stool stream so his run is the best in the office will be over once that's over go make your picks and play bar slap and secondly uh he's on a work trip right now in arkansas with the must bus and barcel bench mob and a video came out of him dapping up the Mus bus, Coach Mus, and it's one of the worst visuals I've seen from any member of this podcast in a long time. And I've seen some really bad visuals.
Definitely one of the worst handshake visuals that I've ever seen. Oh, my God.
I asked Big Cat to watch it live, and he's watching it live now. What is this? Can you break it down happens is jake goes in it looks like it looks like musk goes in for the handshake and jake just goes for a hug like okay it was a buckle like he was jake's trying to put his belly button on musk on musk's belly i'm gonna all right so here's the problem so musk gave him the shirt so jake is like hey we're not doing a handshake because you have a shirt in your hand so i can't shake your hand he's got the shirt in his right hand he gives him the shirt and then musk gives him a little like thanks for coming out and jake just like collapses in his arms to be to be held softly by musk uh what is that so so what happens is Jake, it looks like he switches.
Okay, he's got the... All right, no.
Jake gets the shirt in his right hand and then quickly switches the shirt to his left. So Jake's ready.
But Jake wanted to be held by Coach Muscleman. So Jake kind of reset to do a handshake.
He doesn't like titty slapped him a little bit. Muscleman just gave him the, I'm going to tap your shoulder.
And Jake just put his whole body on him. He just, literally, he's like, let me just be Little Spoon for a minute.
One little second. Hold me and tell me everything's going to be okay.
And then, this is maybe the most relatable part about this whole thing. After an awkward encounter or a missed handshake, Jake takes three steps in the wrong direction.
realizes that he's going the wrong way, has to turn around and walk back, but he lets Coach go in front of him so it's not that awkward. They're talking to each other after the weird handshake.
And Rico's carrying a huge big box because Jake can't hold it. His alpha status might be in question.
Like I said, Thursday we're playing ping pong. This could all be what I need.
Oh, my God. Also, the other funny thing I saw from this trip is that they're in the gym.
They're with the team on scene. And Jake's wore a collared shirt both days because he's a big J.
Yeah, I mean, he is. This is a big trip for him.
Right. Everyone else is wearing T-shirts.
All the guys just you know t-shirts and shorts because you're in a basketball gym in arkansas and jake's still still got the jeans casual big j but a big j nonetheless the best part about this is i love jake i truly do jake when something like this happens he will be replaying it in his head for 24 hours like mumbling under his breath like i can't believe i didn I screwed up that handshake. I can't believe that I softly fell into Muscleman's arms because I wanted to be held by him.
I can't believe that I kind of would have wished he kissed me on the top of the head. I can't believe it.
Like, he'll just be saying that to himself constantly. He can't get over these type of things.
So no one mention it. Hank, you're going to have to go in for a hug if you beat him.
Yeah. You got to hold him.
No, handshake hug. Yeah, just pull it back.
Get him really bad. If you're in Arkansas or Alabama right now, as they're on the, what, the Democracy Tour? Ah, yes, the Democracy Tour.
As they're on the Democracy Tour, if you see Jake, instead of going up and giving him a handshake, just give him a hug. Yeah, just give him a hug.
Just hold him. And just feel like it's okay.
He wants to be held. It's not your fault, Jake.
He's Little Spoon. It's not your fault.
Damn, that was awkward. Yeah, anyway, and my cool throne is tortoises.
I saw this. Yep.
So I don't know what event. It looked like it was at the dog show, but it wasn't at the dog show.
But it looked like an event that looked similar to the dog show. What tipped you off that it wasn't the dog show? Well, no, but you know what I'm saying? No dogs?

Well, no, but the venue of it.

I don't know what other event.

It came off dog show vibes.

The video does look like the dog show.

The background, yes. And also on the floor

they had the little tent set up.

I don't know why you guys are mocking me. How else would you

describe what that place looked like? Because there was a rabbit

and there was a turtle, but no dogs.

Zero dogs. But I'm trying to set the scene for the listeners.
Describe what it looks like like. Because there was a rabbit and there was a turtle, but no dogs.
Zero dogs.

But I'm trying to set the scene for the listeners.

Scene set.

Describe what it looks like.

Dog show, no dogs. No dogs.

That's exactly what it looks like.

Which is, you can't have a dog show with no dogs.

It's a convention.

Well, yeah, but what the, like, again, my point was to say, I don't know why they had

this tortoise in the hare race, because that's not something you just do for no reason, that's not something that people would come see the numbers on it the whole video anyway back to my the point is that they did whatever this fucking event was did a tortoise and a hair race and the the tortoise won i'm a i everyone the hair just stopped in his tracks i'm a terrible gambler if they did, I would bet on the hair. Like, his first step was so fast.
Yeah. I was like, how could he lose this? I mean, you have to take the hair every time.
Yeah. Because I think if they did this race 99 times, I think the hair wins 98 times, right? That's how dumb we are.
A story you learn when you're four years old, we have not internalized. Definitely not.
PFT. Good hot sequel thrown, Hank.
Both low-key bangers. This turtle is kind of a dog show, dog show thing.
That's a fact. The turtle is kind of a try hard.
I agree. What other event is this at? Like, seriously.
I'll just give you a hard time. I really hope that it was a dog show, and this was like halftime of the dog show.
That would make sense more than anything else. That would be so good.
Vindication. My hot seat is the entire PGA.
Not because Brooks is about to be on a warpath, because he is, and because a reporter called Bryson Brooks by mistake today. That was awesome.
Which I'm sure was completely a mistake. The guy sounded like he was from England or Ireland, so I can't imagine he's up to speed on our trolling of Bryson DeChambeau.
But the real reason why the PGA is on the hot seat and all other golfers besides Patrick Reed is that his wife has started to tweet again from the burner. Oh, nice.
It's been a while. She's been offline for a while, but she had to log on today on today and you tell me because it's still unconfirmed that this is his wife but i mean let's get real okay the handle is use golf facts all uppercase facts this is what he found when when he got uh criticized for uh rules infraction he was she was tweeting about rory and all that stuff right so the account tweeted today, how many times does Patrick Reed have to start late slash early? Okay.
Not just all the majors, but regular events too. And then she tagged all the major championships.
In his last three majors, he started at 4.15 p.m., 5.15 p.m., and now 3.15 p.m. T times by world rank.
And if it's a draw, let's see it. Wait, but aren't T times like Thursday you're late and then – oh, okay, so she's saying late and then early the next day.
Because they do flop. Like if you go late on Thursday, you go early on Friday.
Wow. I'm not going to lie.
I know that it's used golf facts, but those are facts. They are facts.
Right. And honestly, it's relationship goals to have somebody that will defend you like Patrick Reed's wife defends him.
Yeah, I mean, they're trying to take down Patrick Reed via tee times. That's pretty clear.
Also, shout out Brooks. We just have to say it.
Consummate pro. He and uh you know bryson are on the rider cup team together they will he'll find a way to get along for a week oh yeah he said or they're not gonna be team he said i can uh i can find i'm pretty sure i can find a way to get along with just about anybody for a week yeah ringing endorsement yes of their friendship very nice like i honestly think that bryson is the last person that brooks would want to hang out with for a week yes like literally the last person on earth yes um so yeah that's my hot seat also shout out patrick rey's wife i just think that it's sweet that she's yes agreed because literally nobody else in the world will uh and then my what that's a bonk i didn't bonk you that's's a bonk for saying I'm a fan of their loving relationship.

See, I agree with you that bonks have gotten out of control,

but you also have gotten very horny.

I'm not horny at all.

I'm not horny.

Nope.

Maybe once or twice a day, but not all day.

My cool throne is Terrell Pryor.

Terrell Pryor is asking for the 2010 wins for ohio state to be restored to the university um which i guess makes sense agree it's like they get looking back on it that was like the biggest nothing story that's maybe ever happened in college sports that had the biggest ramifications so terrell prior got tattoos and then it basically took out ohio state for a couple years yes. Jim Trestle had to quit, and he was known as the senator because he had the squeaky clean image that he had going on.
And so, yeah, tattoos brought down Jim Trestle and Ohio State, and now Terrell Pryor wants it back. And honestly, if I'm Terrell Pryor, why not? Yeah.
It did lead to Urban Meyer and then ryan day so they can't be that upset overall but

yeah i agree he should get it back right absolutely and i also respect on terrell prier's part tastefully waiting for like a week after reggie bush was like hey give me my heisman back knowing that everybody was like yes reggie bush is the person who deserves to be sold in first and then terrell's like uh also just like tack my name onto that list if you could um all right my hot seat is quarterback rankings

because Billy dropped his tier

system and it's fire. It's just fire.
Go read it right now. Burn it.
There are a couple things of note and then Billy you can chime in wherever. The greatest quarterback of all time was not T.R.A.
Did you know that Jared Goff is not Jared G.O.F.? Yeah, I had a spell correct thing it. It auto-corrected him.
You're supposed to say that was an homage to PFT. Yes.
That always works. Thanks, Billy.
Two, I really liked what you did with the Saints situation. You said that you couldn't find a picture of Jameis and Taysom, so you just did a picture of Drew Brees instead.
And then you said, whatever is happening at the Saints organization, I put Jameis and Taysom so you just did a picture of Drew Brees instead and then you said whatever is happening at the Saints organization I put Jameis and Taysom on the same level I think Sean Payton is going to tank for a high draft pick Jameis' workout videos aren't helping does anyone think that Jameis Winston can actually start he's a Hall of Famer the one of one Jameis Winston guy came at does all day is name search and that's and he just was dming you ever heard about defending the wall that's what he does for james winston you don't think that his workout videos are helping at all dude he made a three-point shot with a football with his eyes closed he couldn't see in the first place no he can now he's now he's adapted he was he was literally born into. You merely inherited it.
Yeah. What is if they share the same letter, they're equal but separate tiers? Oh, so I have some of the tiers.
I have two Bs. It's more of some are rising stars while others are fallen angels, and they're eclipsing.
So the tiers don't matter or they do? They do, but they're separate. So Billy just kind of took groups of quarterbacks that he thinks are similar in certain ways and put them together and then kind of stacked them up from best groups to worst groups.
Well, because guys with longer careers have more of an upside. Also, isn't RG3, he just got signed by ESPN? Well, that's the...
Bidding war. He hasn't made a decision.
No, no, he did, I thought. I thought it was announced today.
No, that's the break the glass. That was yesterday.
Yeah. PFT, come on.
Damn. Spend so much time getting horny, you missed it.
I was probably jacking off. Wait, so that means that was my break the glass in case of emergency, which was the best backup.
And Deshaun Watson is J, the last tier? Well. What is it? I didn't read it.
I should probably. Read it it like, yeah.
Okay. Okay.
Hang on. I'm going to read it right now.
The last year. Did you find out about, I don't see anything about RG three uncertain futures.
Nice. Billy Garoppolo lock and Watson.
That's a, that's a tough break to have Garoppolo and lock in the same group as watch. I didn't want to, I, I would just kind of sneak one in there and just not deal with it.
What about... Mission accomplished.
No Teddy Bridgewater. You just handed the starting job to Drew Locke? Yeah.
Okay. Honestly, the program I was using to make these tiers didn't have some of the pictures.
The advanced software system. Yeah, the advanced software system.
Yeah. Pete, please get me a computer.
Okay, I'm looking more at it here. The Ugly Ducklings.
You've got Joe Burrow as an Ugly Duckling? Dude, he had his teeth straightened. Did you see the chompers? No, no, no.
They're not ugly. It's just like their first seasons may have not been considered beautiful, but they can still blossom into swans.
I thought Herbert had a pretty beautiful rookie year, didn't he? Which tier is he on? The ugly duckling. Is that because of his haircut? Yeah, Justin Herbert's definitely higher than the ugly duckling.
That's okay, but you know what? This is why we did it. You get misinterpreted.
You know, I sort of did, but his record didn't reflect that. People are going to get mad at you for Ryan Tannehill.
There are a lot of Ryan Tannehill fans out there that aren't going to appreciate you putting him in the Meh tier

with Ben Roethlisberger,

the most persecuted

quarterback in sports,

Ryan Fitzpatrick,

Matt Ryan,

Kirk Cousins,

and Derek Carr.

I did a little clickbait

thing here

where I purposely put

the big fan base's

beloved franchise quarterbacks

into the Meh category

to piss them all off.

Ah, okay.

You basically invalidated

yourself as a blogger.

Correct.

But the click still

I hope you enjoyed it. franchise quarterbacks into the meh category to piss them all off.
Ah, okay. You basically invalidated yourself as a blogger.
Correct. But the clicks still count, Hank.
Yeah, man. Clicks still count.
Cash is checks. I like that you put Kirk Cousins, all things considered, pretty close to hanging it up.
Yeah. Yeah.
All right. Good job, Billy.
That was a good blog. All right.
My cool throne is baseball having a marketing problem because the Shohei Otani. This actually is a mark that Shohei Otani has reached his highest level because now the discussion becomes, are they marketing him correct and is he marketable? And then you saw, obviously, Stephen A.
Smith with a stupid fucking take. But this is like we've had this conversation for a very long time with Mike Trout.
Why can't we market Mike Trout? Maybe because it's just baseball. Yeah.
Maybe that's what it is. They're both playing the small market of Los Angeles, so that's tough.
We always have this conversation. It's like, why can't we market the Stars? I think this one's a little bit different because right now it's like Shohei Otani is the face of baseball.
Everyone's talking about him, too. There's no more discussion of, is Mike Trout the face of baseball? Who's the face of baseball? Even while Mike Trout was the face or the gross chin of baseball, we were all talking, who's the next face of baseball? We were looking forward to whether it was Acuna or Sodor, one of the younger guys, one of the Slam Diego players, any of the sons out there.
We were looking for the next generation of the face of baseball. Now we have one.
Now I it's like set in stone that shohei otani is the most electric player in baseball by far but my point is that baseball the way baseball used to be is never coming back and that is like it's never going to be a national everyone talking about it like home run derby in the 19th you know in the in the late 90s it's never going to be that. It just isn't.
It's just not. There's too many sports.
It's fragmented. NFL has gotten bigger.
All these things. So it's so stupid because all I see is this conversation of why aren't we making a bigger deal with Shohei Otani? Either you know about Shohei Otani being electric because you follow baseball even a little bit or you don't follow baseball at all.
So you just don't care yeah i think that i think that we are making exactly as big of a deal as we should about show that's what i'm saying big one yeah but it's never going to be like people want it to be this deep like they want it to be mcguire sosa again we got it we're never going back to that we got to figure out a colin coward analogy for that it's like baseball baseball thinks it's a it's a Lamborghini. Right.
But you know what? Sometimes having a Toyota Camry, new model, all the bells and whistles. Not bad.
Going to last you for 300,000 miles. Yeah.
Take you to and from your next divorce hearing. But that's all you need out of a car.
Every time I see someone be like, hey, why aren't we making a bigger deal of the show here at the time? It's like, we are. He's incredible.
He's electric. If you follow baseball even a little bit, you about him you think he's awesome you think he's incredible you want to watch his at bats and then there's just less people who follow baseball than there were 30 years ago so that's just the reality of it it makes sense but also he's trying to fix out the marketing problem by doing what we all said that he should have done which is get rid of the seven inning double headers yeah and then also he's considering banning the shift next year, which I think that'd be awesome to do.
Yes. I actually like the seven-inning doubleheaders.
You do? Yeah. Wow.
I do. I think doubleheaders are cool.
There should be more doubleheaders. I respect just the legacy of the game.
Yeah. There should be more doubleheaders.
Billy, hot seat, cool throw. My hot seat is Rick Pitino.
Gre Greece was eliminated from pool play in the Olympics. Can he coach us?

Can Giannis play for U.S.?

The Olympics haven't started.

Well, the FIBA pool play.

Nice.

They got eliminated.

They can't play in the Olympics.

They're not going to be in the Olympics?

No.

Well, I don't think.

Because I was kind of hoping.

I'm not going to say it.

Rick Pitino is a great coach.

He is.

I think he could have.

Could have helped to have Giannis.

It would have been hilarious if Greece beat the U.S.

And Thanasis.

Mm-hmm.

And Thanasis.

That's what I was hoping would happen. No, Sloven is going to beat us with Luka.
Cool throne. Respect the cup people.
The Tampa Bay Lightning dented the cup pretty bad. All the respect the cup people came out.
The trophy lovers. Yeah, respect the cup.
It gets, like, fucked every year. Exactly.
It's the best trophy in the world. The Stanley Cup is, without a doubt, the most abused trophy in sports.
Correct. And that's what makes it so wonderful.
Yes. The stories it could tell.
Yeah. Exactly.
If the cup could talk. And that was my hot seat, Cool Throne.
Good job, Billy. All right.
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Here's Christian Yelich. Okay, we now welcome on a very good friend of ours.
It's been a while, but it is Christian Yelich. 2018 MVP, no big deal.
He was not in the Home Run Derby because he doesn't hit home runs anymore, but he's still number one in our hearts. Christian, thank you for joining us.
So I was looking at it. The first time you ever joined us on the show when the Home Run Derby bet was made was 2017 All-Star Game in Miami.
After that point, you were maybe the best baseball player in the world for like a year and a half. So I'm hoping that you reclaim that magic and you're back to being the best baseball player in the world.
Yeah, no, it was the 18 all-star game in DC. And yeah, you were right.
Like literally the first. No, it was Miami.
No, it was Miami in the second half of 17 and then all of 18 you were no it was the second half of 18 all of 19 because that was the first we did it in the lobby in in uh or like by the elevator in dc that was by the elevator in miami though that was miami no because i didn't make the all-star game in 17 i wasn't i was uh i lost my wallet on the at the w on south beach on the 2017 all-star All-Star break. I lost all my shit on the beach.
So I know I wasn't with you guys. It was like in the hallway.
Yeah, it was. It was in the hallway of one.
I thought that was Miami. Okay, so I stand very corrected.
But the point still stands that I think. You're right about the rest, though.
Yeah, the PMT bump. So let's actually start with that.
So this season, maybe not the best start for you, but take me back. Not great, no.
Two months into the season, May 23rd, you hit your first home run. Took you two months.
How'd that feel? Pretty good. It took me two months.
I wasn't really playing. I only probably had ten games at the time just because my back was all jacked up.
But, yeah, get on the board man that's why i'm coming back with you guys you know i need i need the bump again we kind of we wrote it out for a pretty good heater and then you know now we need a little refresher i feel like you need us to make another unreasonable bet because you are a spiteful guy i like you but i actually really hate you because you've made my life very stressful for the last couple of Junes.

Thankfully this year it wasn't so much the case,

but there were some legitimate conversations that we've had to have on this show about, you know, eating each other's assholes.

And I don't know.

I feel like you kind of thrive on that.

You like seeing us uncomfortable.

So is there – I can let you make the call.

Like do you want to put us in a bad situation again, give us something to on i didn't i mean you guys put yourselves in a bad situation you know you kind of did that to yourselves if i if i recall correctly but you know what one of the one of the biggest biggest regrets i have so far in my career is not being able to do that home run derby i want to do that so bad in 2019 i actually kind of hurt practicing for it. And I remember texting with you and just being like, dude, I blew out getting ready for it.
I don't think I'm going to be able to do it. I'm sorry.
I know how much everybody was looking forward to that, not only at Barstool, but just everybody that follows this show or anybody that had any kind of idea what was what was going on and what

was being said so still on about that and maybe we'll be able to do it one day because it's a it's a career-long bet if i recall correctly you never said like next home run derby you just said ever win a home run derby it is and i remember when you texted me about your back and i think I think I put on the fakest, oh man, I'm so sorry uh like response of all time where i was like damn that really sucks meanwhile i'm like fuck yes hopefully your back never gets better but uh no i i remember dave dave was all pissed too because like i think you guys had everything set up everyone was gonna watch it and like live stream it everything like that i was like dude i had i i gotta pull the shoot like i really can't swing a bat right now yes so um i i do fully expect you to be in a home run derby at some point um you will have to hit some more home runs though so maybe we're gonna have to play better in like the actual i'm gonna have to play better like the actual games before i can do the home run derby yeah but that'll happen again eventually i think so we'll make this happen i was talking to the

guy yesterday that was supposed to throw to me in that derby he was just texting me like reaching out saying hello and uh i was like hey man we got to do this like at some point before it's all said and done and we got at least seven more years left so oh at some point at some point we're gonna we're gonna get out there i hope um all right so let we also have to talk about um the clip that went semi-viral last week.

You got tagged out, making a slight move to second base, and I've never seen you that mad. You were very mad.
Well, come on. You made a little bit of a move.
I watched the video. You deet.
You did. You did a little like shimmy.
What's Shakira? The hips don't lie. It's open to interpretation.
I believe that's what it says in the rule book, too. It's a judgment call.
We disagreed to disagree on what was being said, and then one of us had to go home early. I think what made you mad wasn't necessarily that you got called out.
It's the emphaticness with which the umpire called you out. Like, he punched you out.
He wound up for that. He was really excited to make that call.
I think that's what rubbed you the wrong way. It was a lot of things.
I think that was the third game of the series. It was just a lot of buildup that led to it.
It wasn't just like that one instance, you know what I mean? But I don't really want to say too much on it because i'm probably already gonna get fined a decent amount for uh my on-field antics there yeah we'll kind of just well i'll just wait do you still get paid if you get kicked out of a game i think so i've only been kicked out of game twice um but this one this one was definitely my my better one of the two like if you're gonna get thrown out of the game like i guess fully commit to getting thrown out of the game. It wasn't even like – I didn't really even realize.
It was like a full-blown blackout snap. I don't really remember it.
I was shocked. Yeah, I was shocked.
It's in there. So people always think I'm the super laid-back, happy-go-lucky guy, but I'm kind of not.
There's times where I am, but I'm pretty – I get pretty fired up out there sometimes and people that play with me and like know me in a baseball sense know that's in there but I'm like my day to day life I'm a pretty laid back guy like I kind of just chill but that's also like it's funny when everyone's like oh man I thought he was so laid back well he's a professional athlete and he's really fucking good you have to have at least some competitive streak in you what what though you can't talk about what happened on the field but um after do you just go and take a shower and hang out or did you go home like what what is it is it fun to watch the game on in the clubhouse by yourself um yeah so i didn't go home i think it was the sixth inning i made fifth or sixth inning somewhere in the middle of the game um my other ejection was the bottom of the first, so I actually had the whole game to watch. So this one was at least in the middle.
But counsel, our manager, he got thrown out right before that, like the inning before. So he was already in the clubhouse at his desk.
And to get back to our locker room, you have to walk down the hallway, and it's past the manager's office. So he was sitting in there and i walked by his office and i was like well shit like what's up man look at us did you watch with him no i didn't watch with him because we were we were still losing the time and when i got thrown out of my other game i the manager also got thrown out with me mattingly and i watched the whole game with him in his office and we ended up blowing like a five-run lead and watching watching the implosion of a five-run lead with your manager while you're both kicked out of the game was a pretty uncomfortable experience that's interesting like you know so i was like all right and then we tied it up i was like i'm probably i'll go say what's up to counts now if we make a comeback and i'll watch it with him.
As I was going to his office, we gave up a homer and I turned around,

went back to the training room and finished my post-game thing.

Our GM was working out in the weight room.

So I talked to him about what happened and all that.

So I was just pretty much hanging out in shorts and a T-shirt

in the clubhouse the whole time.

And that was that. It was pretty uneventful like i was i was pretty i was calm again after after i got thrown out kind of just like walked back in and there's some some of our pictures were in the in the locker room talked to them for a little bit and that was that you feel like you have a little extra swag with all over the internet like everybody was texting me the rest of the night it kind of went everywhere because it was a pretty good snap.
Yeah, are you walking around like a badass?

Like you feel like, hey, don't fuck with me.

I'm liable to just snap on somebody.

Not really because it's not something that I do.

And the home plate umpire the next day for us.

So we went up there.

We kind of both had a pretty good laugh about it.

My first at-bat the next day, he was like, what's up? Like, how's it going, man? What up? Yeah. He's like, are we good? I was like, yeah, we're good.
Like, you know, shit happens. My bad.
And then we just carried on. It was fine.
But I think me and him will probably have a pretty good relationship, at least for my end, like the rest of my career. It's a good laugh.
Yeah. I don't know.
We'll see if he hates me. No, I said some pretty – I kind of went in on him a little bit.
Yeah. It seemed like it.
It's a classic case of guys being dudes. That's how we apologize.
You just give us like a day, and then we see each other again, and you just look at the other person. You're like, we cool? Yeah.
Yeah, we're cool. And you don't have to actually talk about what happened or your feelings or anything like that you just kind of acknowledge okay enough time has passed where i'm not mad anymore it was like the prototypical example of that actually it was like hey hey we good yeah we're good yeah that shit got crazy we both said some stuff yeah you know nobody nobody even like addressed it like when no one was like no one was like my bad or anything like that it was just like we're good yeah we're good all right cool have a good one and then we played the game uh my favorite is when when you're like yeah you know like two alpha males sometimes get together a lot of stuff gets said you know we butt heads sometimes yeah and so it's a way that you can like apologize to another man but also make yourself seem like the biggest alpha in the world yeah to where you're like not like hey I'm sorry.
Yeah, you don't know. You never apologize.
We're just two competitive dudes. Like, what are you going to do if shit happens? It's interesting, though, that the two times you've gotten kicked out, your manager has also been kicked out.
Are you a little bit of a brown nose? Are you like a teacher's pet? The first time I got kicked out first, and then, like, 30 seconds later, Donnie was yelling at the umpire too and he got kicked out this time. Counsel was arguing and call.
I think it was during a pitching change and he got thrown out. And then an inning later I got thrown out.
So at least this time, like my actions weren't the reason why the manager got thrown out, which makes me feel a little bit better. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
So he got chucked earlier. So I felt better about that one.
All right. So, you know, your season hasn't been going as well as you'd like, but you're going to turn it around.
The Brewers, though, are in first place. I mean, the Cubs are done, so I don't even have, like, animosity.
I did have a question, though. That game two weeks ago when the Cubs were up 7-0 and the Brewers

won 15-7.

What the hell gets said

in the...

When you come off the field after

giving up a 7 spot in the first inning,

are you guys all saying to each other,

hey, we're still in this but not really believing it?

And then you actually ended up winning the game by a lot?

Well, in that situation,

you're like, well, shit. Day game, last day of the series, down 7-0.
You're like, well, that wasn't a great start. And you kind of come in and you still haven't hit yet, though, you know? So there's nine innings to play and you're like, well, let's try and get like one or two here and like see if we can keep it interesting, chip away, never know what can happen.
Like, you know, like, hey, we can't really let these guys score too much more because we're already chasing seven. So what everyone was saying was, like, hey, let's just try and get one up there, two up there, and see what happens.
And I think we did get one or two in the first, and then we got a bunch back in the second, or maybe it was tied in the second. And then, yeah, I've never seen a game like that, though, in my career.
That whole series was pretty wild, things that happened in it. Yeah, I don't even really know how to describe that game.
Like you said, it was just – It was insane. It was a football board, Bears-Packers game.
Yeah, I was listening on the radio, and I was like 7-0, and I was like, oh, Cubs are back. And then two seconds later, it was 7-6, and then you guys put up eight runs in the fourth inning.
I was like, okay, the season is pretty much over. And that was kind of like the end of the Cubs season in terms of their losing streak and everything going poorly.
But it always is funny to me when you see a score like that and you're like, it must be so weird to be in the clubhouse for that or the dugout. It's like a softball game broke out where it's just everything is working and everyone's scoring and innings are lasting like an hour long.
Yeah. I mean, it was like two and a half hours, and then we're in the third inning.
So we're like, well, if we're going to play a seven-hour game here, we might as well win. Everyone was trying to – yeah, it just went wild.
How many games per year do you actually get down about a loss? Because there's so many games that are played. Like, you can't take every loss super competitively, right? Are there some guys that actually do hate losing that much that even over the course of a long season, it really affects them? I mean, different losses definitely hurt more.
Like, that game, if it kept going south and you lose by 15, you're just like, well, that was a shitty day, but it's a baseball season. Like it's going to happen.
You know, you're going to get blown out a couple times a year, even if you're playing really good teams. But games where you're up like 3-2 in the eighth inning or 3-2 in the ninth and you end up losing a tough one to somebody in the division, like that game definitely hurts a lot more than the one that was just like, well, that was just a shit show.
And what are you going to do? Like we'll get them tomorrow. So they have varying degrees.
If you have losing streaks or just the time in the year when you lose, like they can hurt a little bit for sure. I mean, even though baseball is a game where you're guaranteed to basically lose at least 60 games a year, you know, even if you're the best team in the game.
So, yeah, they hurt a a little bit different depending on the time what happens on a long losing streak is are there guys like let's say so i think the cubs lost like 10 10 in a row 10 and 11 whatever it was and i i'm sure maybe in the marlins you were on a team that had some of those losing streaks are there moments where different guys like maybe seven games in a guy tries to give a rah-rah speech and it doesn't work,

and it's like, well, fuck, what do we do now?

Like how does that play out when you're deep in a losing streak?

Yeah, I mean, there's like when you're –

I think the most we lost with the Marlins I think was 13 maybe

is when our manager got fired and then the GM of the team became the manager.

I don't know if you remember that time. So, yeah in a row, I think, right after that happened.
There's different phases of it. When you lose five or six, you're like, oh man, shit.
Everybody's like, all right, we kind of got to turn this around. It's going south.
It gets like seven, eight, nine ten and then it's like what the fuck dude and it just you seem like you find a different way to lose every night like it's impossible to win like you like you said you're up by seven and you lose or you're winning by like one or two and somebody gets like a you're you got like bases loaded two outs and someone's bat shatters and the game-winning run scores on that play you're like we just we literally just cannot win and sometimes it feels that way and then one day it turns and you can rattle off seven or eight just that's why baseball season so many there's so many ups and downs in it you know where there's times in the season where it feels like you're never going to lose again and you're on a 10 game winning streak and you cannot lose like no matter what you you do, you can't lose. And then you go through a week where you cannot win.
It doesn't matter who you're playing. You could have, you know, the best pitchers in baseball going for you, playing against the worst team in the game, and you just can't win because baseball is a freak game sometimes and weird stuff happens.
So guys try everything. There's pump-up speeches.
Guys are are doing crazy things trying crazy things uh anything to just try and break the streak and to win but if you're going to give a pump up speech the a word of advice is to like always wait till like your ace is pitching that night or you've got like the best the best chance to win or you're not going against the other team's ace yeah you know you got to say you got to you got to have some feel with your speech because if you go out there and you're like i don't know if you're facing like kershaw or something that night and you're on like a seven game losing streak like guys today's the day we turn it around and he goes like eight shetty with 14 k's or something like that and then you're like oh god no that didn't work yeah yeah way worse situation than you had going into the night um i want to talk to you real quick about the Bucs because you kind of got, I don't want to say overshadowed, but it seems like David Bakhtiari has a new favorite beer chugging buddy, and that's Dana Beers. Yeah.
Have you been invited back to the playoffs? Have you been invited to a Bucs game this postseason to show off your drinking skills? Yeah, our schedule just hasn't really lined up for it. We've been out of town, or we've been playing at the same time.
They're playing right now, but it's the all-star break, so I'm not in town. I was texting D-Bock about it.
He was asking if I was going to go to the game or not. What we really need to see is a Dan Vogelbach, Bakhtiari chug off.
I think that would be – I've seen Vogue hammer a beer before because I just wanted to see how fast he could chug it. And I'm not going to lie, he's going to get – he'd give D-Bock a run for his money.
I'm not saying he'd win because I respect D-Bock's abilities. I've seen it up close as well.
Pretty impressive stuff. But I think the state of Wisconsin and beer-chugging fans alike would really need to see it.
We need to settle that one of these days. I was hoping we could make that happen.

I'm not sure where Game 6 lines up.

If we make it to Game 6, I think we may be able to go or not.

You guys have a game, Game 6, at home.

Do it.

Maybe they'll move it.

I don't know.

That would be electric, though.

Is it a day game, night game?

It's a night game, Tuesday night.

They have to move that, though.

They would have to move that.

The only thing I would tell you is next time, can you make sure that the beer is topped off well so what happened with that was i didn't know i didn't know i was just drinking a beer you know and so i didn't really know i was gonna chug it and and debok like elbowed me he goes hey bro you're up in like five seconds and so i'd already had like three quarters of a beer or maybe it was even half i was like well what do you mean because i was i was on the i was on the il at the time so i wasn't really playing and i was like i don't know if this like the greatest look right now i'm not if i'm not playing and i'm hammering beers at the bucks game and our gm and everybody was there and then i was on the screen and kind of played it off Cause like I was meant to do that the entire time, kind of gave it the stand up and the walk around. And I didn't even know if I could chug it, honestly, because I hadn't chugged a beer in a really long time.
But I saw what happened with Aaron and I was like, dude, I got to finish this thing. And there's a moment of panic there when it's tilted back.
You can see me like there's a uh-oh i don't know if this is gonna happen here and we powered through it and that's where the victory celebration kind of came in dbox all fired up going wild and i wouldn't i wouldn't give myself an a for the chug by any means like it wasn't it wasn't impressive but we got the job done and that's kind of half the battle you know yeah you it. It would have been very fun if you had just thrown up immediately while you were chugging the beer.
It's also just so perfect, so Wisconsin, that this is like a thing at Bucs games, and it's like everyone is just like, this is fucking awesome. All of our sports, every player who plays in a Wisconsin sport has to come and chug a beer as fast as they can

right it's just what you got to do it makes for a great environment too it's an awesome place to watch a game like it is really any any of the sports teams in wisconsin it's a it's a cool atmosphere no matter where you go watch the game but uh yeah those bucks playoff games are electric yeah all right we gotta we gotta ask you this because we need a headline what do you think about the whole spider attack stuff? Have you noticed a difference in the pitches you're seeing since the ban has been enacted? Maybe a little bit. I mean, I know it was fairly prevalent, but it was one of those things like nobody was really doing anything about it.
And then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, it kind of just became a big deal. I felt, I felt like that kind of happened overnight, but yeah, it was definitely one of those things where there was some nights where you could like, you could hear the, it's not like Velcro going off guys, guys figures when they're, especially in the, the 2020 season where there was no fans and it was a lot quieter in the in the stadiums.
But I mean, guys are so good that I feel like they don't really need it. Like they've kind of shown like, hey, you guys are still really good.
They can still spin the baseball. I'm not a pitcher, so I don't really know how big of a difference it really makes.
It's hard to tell from the batter's box. I'll be honest.
Like I still think guys guys are are pretty nasty maybe that's because i'm not playing very well so the baseball looks like a an aspirin coming up there but uh yeah it was just one of those things that just gained a lot of traction out of nowhere i felt like i think everybody in the game kind of just new guys are using stuff to get a grip but non-pitchers like myself i don't know if i really know how big of a difference it does or doesn't make. Because guys are still pitching well.
All the best pitchers in the game are still pretty much doing the best in the game, even after the ban. So I think it was one of those things where everybody thought there was going to be this massive difference or these guys are going to stink all of a sudden.
And that just wasn't really the case. I don't know what you guys think about it, but that's kind of from my perspective.
I think it's kind of weird the timing that Major League Baseball had to do it in the middle of a season. Not even over an all-star break.
They just decided one day, okay, now the rules are going to take effect. Then you had managers that I guess you just get to call out the opposing pitcher whenever you want.
I don't know how that was. I think we saw that happened the one time, I think.
It was like the Phillies-Nats game, but that hasn't happened in any of the Brewers games or anything like that. It's been pretty standard.
The umpire checks the pitcher's glove and hat or on their way, and it's like a three-second check. If your manager requests the check and they find out that the pitcher's clean the manager should have to step into the box and take an at bat i mean yeah it's pretty bad if you don't like you better have pretty good pretty good idea that there's guys going to something or using something if you're gonna you're gonna call them out i wish you know what i wish though i wish normal people could people could take that pass.
Yes, yes. I think it would be pretty cool.
There's no way that it would actually be able to happen or anything like that, maybe like live BPs in spring training. I think it would be cool, though, just to give people perspective on baseball and hitting or even pitching.
Hardest thing to do in sports. I honestly think if I stood in the box against Jacob deGrom and he threw a thousand pitches, I don't think I'd make contact more than once.
Maybe luckily. It sounds, honestly, it sounds extreme, but I really think you're right.
Yeah, like I would get lucky maybe a couple times, but that would be pure luck. There would never be a time where I would swing being like, I'm about to hit this.
Yeah. I mean, I think, no joke, I think there's a chance that you could maybe foul tip on.
Right. But if there was an actual defense out there getting a hit, there's no chance.
Actually, you'd go over 1,000. Yeah.
It would be crazy. I also think that you would just get exhausted swinging the bat 1,000 times.
So if you could do one at bat bat per day for a thousand days in a row, I feel like one of those you could get a foul tip. Yeah, because eventually like you'd be like, you have a better chance of a thousand at bats in a single day of foul tipping a ball.
If you did one at bat for a thousand days, I would say zero. Yeah, because you'd have a time.
Like, eventually into rhythm like eventually you just be standing there and you just be pure guessing on timing right okay i know and like you'd be able to like get the bat in the way of the ball at least like one time i feel like right like i know yeah i know where his where he is in his wind up now's the time i got to start swinging and hope that i guessed right yeah but the thing with him is like his ball goes like this kind of like it feels like it's going like that shit and then yeah i mean he throws 95 mile sliders and they look like fastballs until you go to swing at them and they're not so it's it'd be an awesome experience like i don't i don't know how that would ever happen like for people just to be able to to see that and i know there's those websites like on twitter and instagram stuff i think they're like the pitching ninja things where like they overlay the two balls the fastball and slider and and just like people that think hitting and stuff is easy like it's kind of funny when you guys like face like hater or something you know and there's a guy on third and less than two outs like we'll just make contact you know get the guy in it's like well dude right there's a guy throwing a hundred from like behind you and the balls are rising and you don't really know where it's going to be and then it could be not a fastball too on the flip side what always amazes me is like when a guy like aroldis chapman who's had struggles this year because his movement is just not the same and it's crazy to me that like a guy who throws a hundred but he has no movement everyone crushes him because it like eliminates that one variable and now everyone in mlb even though it's 100 miles an hour if it's straight and doesn't move you guys can all fucking like smash on that yeah i mean a lot of it's just like location based i think pitchers go in slumps too you know where they're they're not really hitting their spots as well as they usually do or just freak things happen to them too you know they hit a guy a broken bat single and then a homer there's three earned runs right there before like anything happened so pitchers go through slumps too but yeah a lot of it's just like location based and all the best pitchers in the games are the guys that throw really hard with that velocity and can locate it really well. I'm going to be honest.
Facing Chapman as a left-handed hitter is not a great time either. I'm not going to lie.
You're not stoked to go up there by any means. Let me ask you this then, because Kyle Hendricks, obviously I love Kyle Hendricks.
Like you face him a bunch. He doesn't throw faster than 88 tops, but he just all location.
Like how much does that fuck with you when it's slower? Well, you go for a thousand against him too. Yeah.
Oh yeah. Even though he throws 87, 88.
Just because I enjoy facing him because I don't do well against him either.

I wouldn't say I crush him.

We've had a lot of battles over the years just because we're in the same division

and face each other all the time.

He's got three different fastballs and three different change-ups and a curveball.

He locates it and moves the ball around really well and throws any pitch in any count.

I don't think people appreciate that either, like the art of pitching, like the way he does it. Because he throws four-seam fastball that kind of cuts a little bit, like a two-seam fastball.
He throws four-seam fastball at the top of the zone. He has a two-seam changeup, changeup that cuts a little bit, and then a straight changeup that looks like a four-seam fastball.
It's not. And then his curveball is pretty good too it just it's not what he's really known for you know he's known for fastball change up he can move he can front door you with two seamers back door you with cutters fastball so he's just moving it everywhere you know and all this he can make all his pitches look the same and people don't understand that either like oh he's throwing 87 like how can you not hit that you know it's like well dude you just think you have no idea right it looks it could be it could be 82 and you don't know the difference between the two right you don't you really don't like they all look the same coming out of his hand it's impressive too like and one of them just never gets there you know they're the same pitch and one of them's 10 miles an slower, and it just never gets there.
He's had all the success he's had in the game, you know, for a reason. Is there a certain pitcher who's – like if you were to pick one pitch from an individual pitcher for a person like us to step into the batter's box and you get one crack at it, what is the nastiest pitch? Oof.
The guy with the nastiest pitch? I mean, there's a lot of guys with electric fastballs. Like, I don't know who I, who I, I mean, I think the Grom's probably the guy that is like, it's, it's pretty impressive.
Like facing, I faced him a lot too. When I was in the, in the NL East and that was before he was throwing like 102 he was just only throwing 96 only 96 at

the time but uh give some appreciation there i think hater are our closer um you just you can watch it on tv or in video and like certain guys fastballs look different like there's different 98s some of them feel light and they don't feel as hard as it says and there's other guys stuff that it'll say like 95 and you're like dude i could swear that's i swear that's 110 is that like the rising action on it the balls yeah the rise in the force team like the deception the way they throw it like sometimes like dude it's like you don't see certain guys as well like i might see a guy better than you see a guy and he could be really good or be not as good and we both have different opinions on him like that's why it's just a fascinating game yeah i mean fastballs it is always fascinating to me how much like two miles an hour or just like i was saying with chapman like when he doesn't have movement on his fastball it could be 100 but it's not the same like the i've always heard like you know guys whose fastball seems to get faster like at the end you know i mean like it pops has is that something that's real well so like people understand that now like a few years ago you wouldn't really know why a ball got on you like that right and now and now it's because they have ways of telling like extension like how far down the mound he is when he lets go of the ball like guys that let it go closer to home plate obviously their fastball plays better um the release like some guys release the ball higher or lower and the guys that have the lower release the ball seems to like take off a little bit more like low low releases and like height above the ground where they release the ball and then that's where that that, that's where the spider attack thing came in. It was in the RPMs on guys, fastballs, like the higher the RPMs, the more life and rise you'll get to it.
And that's kind of where people were, were pointing to where it became kind of a problem in the game. And so if you had a guy that can combine all three of those things, then it's a tough A-B to say the least.

It's an issue, yeah.

And if you want to sound really smart to your friends at home,

just say, hey, you know, a rising fastball doesn't actually rise.

It just doesn't drop as fast as you think it's going to drop.

Exactly.

Yeah.

People forget that.

It just holds its playing better, yeah.

Yeah.

All right.

What about a knuckleball?

Could I step into the batter's box against a knuckleball and take 1,000 swings and hit one? Maybe. Just because the velocity is not as hard, and sometimes they don't do anything.
Right. You know? Like, sometimes a knuckleball just literally just kind of floats in there.
If someone ripped off a good one, then no. Like, guys, majorly guys look stupid on a really good knuckleball they're hard to even catch let alone hit yeah uh if they catch them pretty good like guys that have a good knuckleball you don't want to play catch with them because you actually might get hit in the face if they catch it right it's like damn no thanks i'm good on that fuck but there's not really any there's not really too many knuckleballers left in the game i think ra was one everyone's even spider attack now you can't you can't throw a knuckleball no spin if you got all that stuff on it exactly yeah you guys ever try that you ever gotten like a can of that stuff uh right here yeah right there i use it to how sticky is that though incredibly sticky.
Very sticky. It doesn't help my typing.
That was nice by you, by the way. That was a really smart move to be like, I've never seen a can of that.
Yeah. Never seen.
Yeah. Never in the brewer's dugout.
No, no. Yeah, and my beer was just accidentally half-drank.
Yeah, yeah. No, I've never seen.
What is that spider tech stuff you got? Yeah. Never seen it.
Text me a picture after. All right.
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They make the best performance polls and the only performance polls we wear. We're going to send you one, Christian.
We send everyone our Roback performance cue zips when they come on the show. This is a – maybe – some may say this is a mean question.
I don't think it's that mean. But, you know, you haven't been great this year.
So, is it weird sometimes, like, for division rivals, like if you haven't gotten a hit against a team, to be like, hey, oh, I just got a hit – my first hit against the Cubs in the middle of July. Do I go – do I stand on first base and be like hey rizzo how was the off season it could i love talking to riz at first base we always have some good conversations over there about who knows what it just kind of depends what's going on or how we're both doing at the time yeah we laugh at each other about how hard baseball is sometimes yeah he's a great guy, man.
I love talking to him over there.

I really like all – I mean, I know it's a rivalry,

but I really like all those guys over there.

They're good dudes.

We've had some passionate games over the years.

I don't believe you. It's been fun, man.

I don't believe you with Wilson Contreras.

It feels like every – I have a theory.

Actually, here's my last, last question.

I have a theory that it's just if you're a good catcher,

you should be hated by the other team.

Like the catcher position is somehow always the most hated guy on each team. Really? I feel like that's the case because I don't know.
I mean, I've always had good conversations with Will. You know, you go to the plate and I always say hello to him.
We've played against each other for a long time. Obviously, respect him.
He's beaten us a few times on his own. He's literally hit a few walk-off homers against us, I think.
So super talented. There's always going to be that rivalry when you play each other so much, but you got to respect how talented people are and the way they play the game.
And there's obviously a lot of those guys on the Cubs are very talented and we've had some good fun battles and we've come out on top on some, they've come out the top on some and like i said who knows what's going to happen here in the next few months but um you know riz kb javi wilson like that core over there we've had a we've had a good run against them and i've always enjoyed playing against them even though it's a rivalry and the two fan bases don't really get along i think that the players do we've had a couple dust dust-ups. We've had a couple benches clearing things.
There's never been any fight, just the occasional shouting across the way at each other. But that's really been about it.
Will you sprint to first base on your next walk for us? Patrick Wisdom said he would. I don't know if he ever did.
He kind of did. I know.
He jogged lightly. It's my favorite move in baseball.
Please. Just a full sprint? Yeah.
Nem mets does it every time yes do it x team your next walk yeah just a sprint and a breakdown at first base yeah yeah just run it for show some don't turn towards second at home yeah don't turn right i can't turn towards second because it you know it gets heated after that happens you know i don't i don't really You did. The hips moved.
I watched it like six times before this interview. The hips moved.
I didn't move my shoulders or anything. Like, I didn't attempt to.
There was no way I actually went to second base. There was a shimmy.
There was a shimmy involved. Like in basketball, you guard the guy's hip.
You guard the guy's belly button because you can't go anywhere without it. Your torso moved.
My belly button was looking right at the foul

pull. I don't care what you said.
Just straight

on deadlock. Staring it down.

Staring it down. So how are you

going to know if I sprint on a walk

though? I feel like you're not locked in on every Brewers game.

I'm not. There'll be highlights.
People

will say like, oh, he sprinted on the walk

and then we can be like, yeah,

he respects 90 and then we'll put this clip in.

That should also be, it's going to be a SportsCenter top 10 play. just the hustle that you would show.
That's fair. You know, you got to do something every night, you know, to contribute to a win.
And so I haven't really been getting a big hit lately. So I can hustle.
I can give hard 90s. Yes, exactly.
You know, hard 90s. Just set the tone, set the tone, do the little things right, and the big things come.
That's what they say, right? Yep. Little things add up to big things in the long run.
And I'm watching this replay again. Your belly button moved.
Your belly button moved. No chance.
It did. Listen, Shohei Otani is the face of baseball.
The conversation at first base kind of went like this, and then it escalated a little bit, and I got thrown out. I'm going to get thrown off the podcast here pretty soon, too.
You're the belly button of baseball. Yeah.
It moved. I would have called it the same exact way.
I would have called it the same exact way. We just played too many games.
We played too many games, all right? You know, things were heated. Passions were high.
Guys being dudes, you said, you know, and then one thing led to another and one of us had to leave the game early. All right.
Well, you're out of here. Yeah.
Good luck for the rest of the season. Now that the Cubs are in full rebuild mode again, I wish you personal success.
I hope you have a great second half. It would be great if you just rattled off an incredible second half and it's just you have to come on this show to find your magic.
I'm serious. If I have another great second half, this is going to be a yearly thing for the rest of my career on the All-Star break.
We're coming on PMT and just getting the bump. And maybe a little of your salary goes to us.
Well, it depends. It depends if it works or not.
Okay. What does work mean? Have you hit 20 home runs in the second half? Yeah, sure.
So we get a little of your salary. That's a pretty good number, right? 20 home runs in the second half we get a little

your 25 of your salary for every home run you hit we get that no let's say if if if you hit 20 home runs in the second half you give this podcast fifteen thousand dollars 20 homers in the second half yes what do we get what are we spending what are we spending it well you know we're gonna do No, no, no, no.

We'll go to, we'll come out.

We'll do, where do you live in the offseason? California, right? Scottsdale. Scottsdale, Malibu.
Yeah, kind of all over. Okay, perfect.
We'll go shopping? No, if you hit 20 home runs, then we'll come like – we'll do like a weekend where you like put us up at a five-star resort. We all hang out, play wiffle ball, And you take us out to dinners and shit.
And just on Christian. Shoes.
New shoes. We get matching outfits.
So it doesn't have to be cash. But you have to spend it on us.
Guy's trip. We'll go on a guy's trip.
You remember Brewster's Millions? The movie? You have to spend $15,000 on us in a weekend. All right.
I like that. Okay.
Yeah, just a guy's trip. I was going to say gonna say that we take 15 grand we reinvest it and we bet on christian yellow to hit another home run in the playoffs and then if that hits then guess what i can't be a part i can't be a part of yeah yeah he can't be a part of that so it'll be a guy's trip you'll spend it on us 20 000 $20,000.
Fine. How about 20 home runs is a lot of home runs in the second half.
That's a lot of home runs. I think, yeah, my MVP half was like $25,000 or something like that.
Right. All right.
So this is good. $20,000 for $20,000.
If you hit 20 home runs, we'll do a Brewster's Millions, but it's $20,000 weekend where Christian just spends it on us and we just go and fucking ball out. Yeah, we'll do something fun.
Guys weekend. Yes.
I love this. If you want to bump it up to $100,000, we'll leave Trevor's assholes.
This is when we always negotiate ourselves out of something. Think about the $100,000.
We'll think about it. All right, 20 home run watch starts today.
I fucking love this. Love it.
Be locked in. Thanks, man.
Appreciate it. You got it, guys.
Good talking to you again. See you.
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And now here he is, David Juice Juice and now for something completely different okay we now welcome on a very special guest it is Dave Jouse you saw him on Monday night the pitching phenom he was pitching to Pete Alonzo to his victory in the MLB home run der. You took the world by storm because you were an incredible, incredible pitcher.

Let's start here.

How's your arm today?

Because you threw a lot of pitches last night.

I've been blessed with this right arm from the shoulder down to the fingers.

I've never been hurt for 44 years.

My back, my ears, my nose, of my head those things those things are hurting every day but for some reason I've never had a problem with my arm and I probably threw less pitches yesterday than I do on a normal BP day so I'm ready to do that all the time how did you find out that you were really really good at throwing batting practice was it because as a Pitcher, you got hit a lot, or did you just get into a zone? Actually, I'm a fan do that all the time. How did you find out that you were really, really good at throwing batting practice?

Was it because as a pitcher you got hit a lot or did you just get into a zone?

Actually, I didn't.

I was an infielder, only played in college.

But I had to – when I started my managing career,

which was a lot earlier than most players, because it wasn't because I was hurt.

It wasn't because I wasn't looked at as a college player.

I'm good coaching. It was complete lack of talent that I had to go into coaching and managing.
And so I was the only coach and head coach and manager on my teams, both Canadian professional baseball, college baseball. And so I had to throw to every player.
And I also had to catch bullpens and all that. So I had to throw right away, and I knew I could throw and make them a lot better hitters than I was because I wanted them to have a chance to be confident, and it started back in 1980, and I've been able to do it, and some years I throw every day of the year.
Wow. I mean, it was incredible, your location.
You did hit him once. You hit Pete once.
Was that a brushback? Was that like a, hey, just so you know, I'm still the boss out here? No, and actually when I threw it, our youngest son, who's my media director right this moment, he got this computer set up and everything. As a pitcher, he drilled a lot of guys.
He was a really good pitcher, but he drilled a lot of guys. And so as I hit Alonzo, the ball slipped out of my hand.
I said, wow, I'm like my son because I drilled him. It was the first guy I ever drilled.
And then also I said in 95, when oftentimes I threw to Cal Jr. when he was breaking the consecutive streak, I used to throw to him.
I said, I never hit Cal. How can I hit this guy? It was the first guy I'd ever hit in my life.
And so it was not a drill back. It was a slip ball, and I couldn't believe Pete laughed about it.
And the next ball, he yanked out of there. So it was kind of funny.
Actually, I got a message from our trainer last night, the Mets trainer, Brian Ciccolo. Great man.
Left me a message, said congratulations. Fun to watch you.
By the way, we wonder if we're going to have to put Pete on the I.L. when he comes back.
It was great. It was a great moment.
I also noticed you weren't wearing a hat, and I feel like you were more locked in than anyone else because of the lack of hat. Was that, do you, do you never wear a hat when you throw BP? You, you seem so much more focused than everyone else.
And I swear it was partially because of the hat. I never wear a hat throwing BP.
I always take it off. Um, I always try to take these, these glasses off.
Um, but I, I never wear a hat. I don't have any chance of having any hair ever in my eyes, so it's okay.
I've saved a lot of money on hair dryers and shampoo in my life. So maybe that's it.
But Dante Bichette as a hitting coach never wore a hat, but that's because he's got a beautiful-looking face. I got a face for a rip, i'm i'm good on that i read that you one time threw a hundred inning game in car in the one college i was at was atlantic christian college in wilson north carolina it's now called barton and for a fundraiser we threw a hundred inning game and i threw to both teams now we did start the count one two you know a one two count so there was plenty of times it was a two pitch um to the hitters but they played we played both teams had the captain um the captain was the manager of one team the other captain was the manager the other team was a really good fundraiser and uh i threw that and then dragged the field afterwards because of course You're the only coach, and you're also the groundskeeper.
You're also, heck, my first college job was at Westfield State College in like 1982. I was a head coach, the youngest coach in the nation.
I made $1,500 a year and my budget was $1,500. Graduate of Amherst College, I had a master's degree from UMass Sport management department and yet i was making fifteen hundred dollars a year for my for my for my job my grandfather always asked me he said hey when are you going to get a real job yeah and look yeah i mean you got a great job yeah you got a great so i want to mention your your college real quick because i saw a quote uh that was tweeted out last night you said in 1991 40 of amherst grads are lawyers 40 are doctors 15 go into some kind of business the other 5 are idiots like me enjoying what they're doing now my question is does that also apply to williams college next door oh no doubt no doubt but don't don't let them be hotty-totty, say that they don't do it.
And guess what? All those 95 other percent guys that graduate and now girls, when I started it was not co-ed, but now girls, they always call me and want to know what I'm doing or the other 5% at Williams. And I never call them other than to say hi and stuff like that, but I never ask them what they're doing at some high-tech company or in the medical room diving into somebody's bladder or spleen or something like that.
So I ask because sitting in this room right now, who he was our intern, but he's now full-time, is someone who might have graduated from Williams, and he would be in the 5% of idiots. But guess what? He's got a great job.
So I feel like you guys are kindred spirits in that respect. We are, and he's an F-man.
How are you an F-man? Eves. F.

F-man.

It's called an F-man.

And I was a, until they changed it, I was a Lord Jeff.

Then they found out that the Lord Jeff had a bad history,

and so now they're like the Wooly Mammoth or something.

But I would go back to Chicago after going to Amherst my first year, and all my buddies in Chicago would say, so what's your nickname? And I'd say the Bobcats because I couldn't get Lord Jeff. They'd run me out.
Wait, what's an F-man? Like a fuckboy. Oh, easy, easy.
I'm not it. He said it, you didn't.
I said it, yeah. Yeah, you're okay.
You can blame me. We're not on the radio.
It's a podcast. You can get away with stuff.

That's funny, though, because I saw that quote, and I thought, like, that's a great quote because our guy Billy here wrestled with the, like,

hey, should I go get a job where I'm, you know, a doctor or a lawyer

or maybe, you know, try out being a 5% idiot and have a good time.

Yeah.

I'm glad you are doing it, and guess what?

We have three sons. My wife and I have three sons.
They all are much more brilliant than I am. My, my wife is much smarter than I am.
She's written two books and, but all three of our boys are in the game. One's a scout with San Francisco giants.
He actually lives in Wrigleyville. He lives, he does the Midwest States for the giants.
He's an amateur scout. The middle one lives in Scottsdale.
He's a mental skills coach for the Diamondbacks. I always say he's 28 years old.
He's had 28 years of learning what not to do mentally like I do. And then our youngest has just taken a coaching position at Boston College.
He's a pitching coach, graduated from NYU, and he's my media director today. That's fascinating.
You're actually the perfect person to ask this question. We brought it up on the last show.
I don't think we had a good answer for it, though. At what point do you switch from being a baseball coach to a baseball manager? Because I'm pretty sure in college, you're still a baseball coach, right? Yeah.
You're You're a head coach in college. And even my, my first managing job in 1980, when I went up to, uh, new, uh, to Woodstock, New Brunswick in the Canadian senior league.
Um, I was still a head coach. Cause that was, it's like, if you go to a semi-pro team or a professional team in like Germany or Italy or Australia that's not part of the baseball affiliate, you know, the professional baseball affiliate, you're a head coach.
But in professional baseball, you're a manager. Yeah.
They call you a manager. And that's the reason you're a bench coach rather than an assistant head coach or something like that.
It's terminology. It's also a reason why we wear uniforms on the bench where in every other sport they wear pullovers or they used to wear suits.
So bench coach in baseball I think is like the coolest job because you – can you explain to me exactly what your day-to-day as a bench coach looks like? Because I always look at it and I'm like, he gets to sit next to the manager. He gets to maybe give him a little input.
The manager could take it or not. He gets to hang out with the guys.
It seems like a pretty good life. So what am I missing here? Is it just, it's a pretty fun existence, correct? I believe that everything in baseball has been a fun existence.
And I did have some years with the, uh, with the Pittsburgh pirates. And we always like to say that Willie Stargell, one of his favorite quotes was they don't say work ball to start the game of baseball.
They say play ball. And, and so I've been able to play for 46 years of 45 years of my, uh, of my working life and a bunch of them have been the bench coach.
Whatever the manager needs, whatever his strengths are, you complement those strengths, but you really work on what his weakness is because everybody has a weakness. So if they're a really good relationship guy and not a good numbers guy, you take care of the numbers.
Or I've had a manager who was a really good numbers guy but didn't want to admit it to any of the players because it wasn't that time that it was good to be a good numbers guy. So I was the guy that was the numbers guy, the numbers geek, and he could be the relationship guy and the hunch guy.
It wasn't a hunch. He had numbers going through his head all the time.

And you do a lot of scheduling.

You're really that go between so that you try to deflect some of the stuff that the manager on the manager's plate so he doesn't have to take care of it. But these days, a lot of coaches do that.
You know, when I first started, it really was the bench coach. And then, heck, when I first started, the ex the guys that were the guys that kept the manager out of getting in trouble after the game be it yelling at media be it yelling at players or being going out a little bit too much right I like that yeah and can you tell when you have a manager that's about to get ejected from the game like when he gets to the ballpark that day you know that he's on one and he's looking to get tossed? Rarely have I ever had a manager that I knew was going to get tossed before but often before the inning started or you you never were surprised unless the umpire made a bad ejection because you can hear it coming and there are times that you knew that hey the manager you know this would really help the club this time.
If there was a really good opportunity, take the, take the, the burden on you, man, managers do a great job at this. Take the burden on you.
Now, I can't say when I did manage in, in, in winter ball and the minor leagues, you know, I was kind of a, kind of an idiot as a manager, cause I've never gotten thrown out as a bench coach, but I got thrown out of 18 out of 60 games in 1999 in Dominican Winter League. That's got to be a record.
Very impressive. I actually heard that you got banned from the Dominican League for two years.
Yeah, I did one time. They said I was unprofessional wearing shorts coming out after being ejected,

coming out onto the dugout, and I accosted one of the umpires, which was they fabricated the story.

Of course, one week later, Jose Offerman took over my job,

and he punched a guy out, which was also fabricated

because the punch never connected.

The umpire just fell to the ground. He took a dive? Not that he should have tried to take a punch.
So you were just getting kicked out of every game and then you just got kicked out of the league. Yeah, that happened.
It sounds like it was just a glorified dress code violation, though. You were wearing shorts and they got mad because you came out there and you were showing some gam and they're like, we've got to send this guy home.

Well, Moises Alou was the general manager for Escajito at that time.

And for some reason, our best hitter, Timo Perez, was hit 10 straight times.

And I heard that some of the pitchers would get some sort of extra bonus

when that happened.

And so the 10th time it happened, I complained to the umpire, and he kicked me out. I said, wait a second.
I didn't ask our guys to drill anybody. So now all of a sudden in the 13th inning and things are going crazy, and I'm out on the top step, and they say that, yeah, my dress code was bad.
So along those same lines, you been part of uh bench clearing brawls because you've been in you know major league for a very long time what what is the bench coaches like what what is the checklist when a bench clearing brawl happens what are you doing first what are you doing to make sure that like everything's cool what what goes through your head when it's like all right it's go time we're going for this well you it's it happens a lot you know i mean it's and and it it happens in your family sometimes you know your your sons go after each other and stuff like that and you got to make sure that you break things up and not escalate it um and so usually you try to make sure you take care of a player on another team that you can handle so that they don't add to it. And then you also try to save your best player so he doesn't get suspended after it.
Now, when you bring that thing up, I still remember my son showing me the clip, and I think it was from you guys when you were saying, how about that joust guy? There was a Pittsburgh-Cincinnati brawl, and I was like the last guy to get out of the dugout. Well, there was a whole lot of people in front of me, and Clint at that time had two bad hips, and he couldn't get out, and Clint is one of the strongest men, and Sean Rodriguez, he and Sean are studs, and I'm trying to get behind, so my knees don't quite work, and so they're now at home plate and I'm trying to get out there.
And you're, you're, you're jacking on, on joust the old guy. The ball's going to be over by the time you got out there.
And I was, I was dying to laugh. My kids had such a good laugh on me on that one, but it just, it's, it's, you grew up in, in this, in this, in the streets and the alleys in Chicago and you got in some brawls.
And then, and, and it's, it's, it's, you know, it's, you see it publicly now because it's at PNC or it's at Great Ballpark of America or American Park and all that. But it's the same thing.
Kids are kids are kids in the in the dugout. And it doesn't matter if they're 35 playing a game at the big league level or it's at the softball park down the road.
Those things happen. Have you had a chance to take stock of your legacy as a home run derby pitcher and think to yourself, like, am I the greatest home run derby pitcher of all time? No.
And it's really fun that this has happened, to get a chance to talk with you and have my whole family here to be able to enjoy this and get to know Pete's family because I've gotten to know Pete. But to put it in perspective, probably the most time I ever got compliments publicly was in 2004.
I was the advanced scout for the Red Sox. And we came back from 0-3 against the Yankees.
And then we sweeped the Cardinals. And guys like Schilling and Lowe and Pedro and Ortiz and Baratek, they said that our reports, myself and the two guys that were in the field with me who were scouts, and Galen Carr, who was the video scout at that time, we put it, you know, we worked all year and did a really good job, and they complimented me personally a bunch, and so you'd walk around Boston, you'd have your ring, and they'd say, oh, yeah yeah you were the reason that you could come back from 0-3 and and the first thing I'd say is no I wasn't because those reports were there also for the going 0-3 we were 0-3 and those same reports were there 0-3 so it's the execution of the players because that Red Sox team to win seven games in a row they executed it was they played together.
It was awesome. And that's the same thing last night is, as I look at, I could have thrown those pictures to somebody else last night and they wouldn't have gone.
It was Pete Alonzo. He's really a special, special hitter.
He's a special power hitter. And in that type of venue, in that type of competition, that's pretty special to see him do that.

It's interesting that you brought up 2004 because everybody does talk about coming from behind when you're down 0-3, which, I mean, for understandable reasons, it was an epic comeback.

It was like one of the greatest comebacks of all time in sports.

But nobody really talks about what happened next in the World Series. It almost felt like the world series was a foregone conclusion at that point because of all the momentum you had but i can't imagine that you expected to go in there and sweep the world series if you ask guys like kevin millar and uh veritech and those they they did frank you know and and you didn't publicly say that before that, but this club got so confident out of beating the Yankees four straight.
And at that time, that American league East made you better than anybody else. Cause they were the best division in baseball by a, a decent step.
And that's not just the hitters. The pitching was ridiculous.
So every hitter got better. And because of that, you were going to have a really good opportunity to beat anybody else you played because you played the best competition, not just for the previous seven games, but for the previous 160 or 180 games.
And so you're prepared. And that's the reason why the best teams at all competition, in all levels, in all sports, you don't want to play the weaker teams.
In college, why play the weaker teams? It's not getting you better. It gets you a win, but it doesn't you better and and and that's why I really believe that in the in the aura that I felt in that clubhouse coming in for the world series there was I mean unless we were going to play the Yankees again in seven or another AL East team that team was going to dominate whoever they played and and it did yeah so there's's a little synergy on the podcast because we had Christian Yelich on.

He's going to be on the same show as you. We just talked to him.
We talked to him about losing streaks. What's your go-to move if your team's in a losing streak? How do you, like as a bench coach, get guys back on track? Or do you not say anything and let the guys kind of figure it out themselves the three minutes to five minutes after the the previous game is over it's over and done with really and and and i've always felt that way um i think you model it and set the tone as a staff person be it the manager be it the bench coach, be it the coaching staff, and

being a team leader like a Yelich is.

And so that doesn't change.

And that doesn't mean that we all handle things the same personality-wise, but we have to

have that tone.

And in baseball, it is paramount.

There's no sport like it because you're playing every day and you're playing 162.

And so you move past it like this.

Thank you. there's there's no sport like it because you're playing every day and you're playing 162 and so um you move past it like this and i do i mean that's the reason that's the reason we tell our club we tell our players in our club who is playing the next day before they leave the club house so they can already have left that night no matter if they won or lost left that night and ready to go the next day.
And i i louis rolas and and and and the staff we have do a great job and the players are all focused on that and it's uh it's set a really good tone and i've always tried to set it and each year you get a little better at setting it because i'm better now than i was a week ago and definitely better than i was five or six years ago in what I try to do. Yeah.
What would you say has been like the biggest improvement in the last 10 years? And I would imagine that as a bench coach, like you, there are a lot of guys that are smart, that understand the game of baseball, that do a good job, but don't necessarily stick around for as long as you have. So I have to assume that you've either found an edge, you've found something that you can keep improving on, or you know something that they don't know about, you

know, just how to be a guy that people not only respect, but like hanging out with. I think it's

my arm because as long as you throw a really good BP, you're always going to have a job. I never say

it's up here and maybe it's my heart. I hope it's my heart a little bit, but the arm, because I

always say if that arm goes, if my arm goes today, it never has gone. You never know when it's

Thank you. And maybe it's my heart.
I hope it's my heart a little bit. But the arm, because I always say if that arm goes,

if my arm goes today, which it never is gone,

you never know when it's going to go,

tomorrow I'll either be the Met bobblehead,

or if the Mets don't want me, I'll be Wally the Green Monster,

or I'll be Dinger out here. I'll stay out here and I'll be Dinger in Colorado

because that's my next job if I ever get –

What speed do you throw at for your BP? Because I always – like it's funny's funny you think it's very slow but you're still throwing it a nice clip well it's it is a lot slower than it used to be I mean I used to when I first started at you know I'd go in and when they needed somebody firm to throw I'd be that guy I remember throwing firm to like Mo Vaughn and Wilfredo Cordero and and these guys in the old fenway uh cage out in center field i've got broken nose broken hand because the cage the ricochet was almost like uh arena football out there um and so i used to throw pretty hard but it was at that still at that 50 feet 45 feet 50 now they have it sometimes on the board these days so i actually know that sometimes i'm throwing like 49 miles an hour only and probably yesterday i was probably throwing a little bit less because for a home run derby you even want to throw a little bit less you don't have to add any power to the ball when the guys are taking their their swings to go go out and practice you ever thought about using spider tack or any performance enhancing capabilities make sure maybe you extend your career a little bit i should have done it more to my sons all three were pitchers the middle one caught also and hit but the all three did pitch and and i taught him to throw strikes i taught him how to command the ball i never gave him spider tack and it took away probably some of the success they had they weren't quite as bad as I was at giving up home runs, but they definitely weren't that guy with the spider tech to have the extra spin on the ball and break and everything like that. How much easier is it to coach first base than third base? Is it like, I mean, you just relax at first base.
First base coach is kind of like, that's the easiest job in the world, right? So as you guys know, my dad's sports writer for 50 years at the Chicago Tribune. He was a proponent.
He was not. My grandfather was the one who said, what are you going to do when you get a real job? My dad always said, do what you want and what you like.
And he says, I, I've always liked writing. Um, and I still go today, I go to, to work each day and love what I'm doing.
He says, David, do the same thing. So he was, he was so glad that I went to coaching and, and, and I finally get a, uh, big league coaching job with the Red Sox in 97.
And I call him on the phone and I said, dad, Jimmy Williams has taken me as one of his coaches. And he goes, Oh, that's great.
And he goes, what are you going to do? I said, I'm going to be the first base coach. He goes, Oh, that's like, um, breaths on a bull.
He didn't say that. I said, Oh, Oh, dad i appreciate it that's awesome yeah that's what he would have written that in the newspaper too yeah so um but i think i think at that time um people didn't realize that there was a lot more because yes third third base coach.
It's the, it's the most, when I coach third and when I talk to guys that coach third now, I know that it is the most, it's the closest to being a player as a coach you are, because you have to react as a base runner. You have to react and it's the hardest base running is the hardest thing and as hard as it is to hit base running everything is changes every pitch right and you are involved every pitch and you have to react off of nine people not just the pitch in one person um and that pitch is tough but base running there are more mistakes than anything else and so as a third base coach you have to be a player and it's very difficult however when I I took over at first for Jimmy I took pride in learning from Davey Nelson and a few guys that were really good Tommy Harper and and I took pride in it and you can be a good base third base coach there are some mechanics of a primary to first base coach and there's some mechanics and I've tried to train that when I was field coordinator and farm director to young guys coming up.
And I still add some input because you can be a good first base coach. And it's not just a token.
Because most of my buddies, when I did, you know, when they, a lot of buddies would say as doctors or lawyers or whatever they were doing, big power finance guys, they'd say, hey, I just want to come and be a bullpen coach for a day. Come on.
Come on now. I'm not going to go in and take that scalpel and go in and take somebody's bladder out.
You can't coach first or be a bullpen coach. Yeah.
Yeah. You might go out at first base and you might forget the special sliding mitt that a guy wears.
Yeah. Yeah.
Or for our club, we had to have a mask this year.

How about the Kevin Pilar?

That's tremendous.

Yeah.

Kevin did what he did.

Unreal.

What a super guy he is.

And he's great for our club, but he's good for baseball.

Yeah.

You mentioned your dad.

He is a legend.

He was a legend in his own right.

And so he was a sports writer for a very long time, also on TV, the Sports Writers on TV, which is a hilarious show that you can go back and watch on YouTube. But between that, your dad being a sports writer and then you being a baseball lifer, do you respect baseball more than anyone on earth? I think you might.
I don't know. I'm blessed to have this position.
I'm blessed to be able to do this. I'm blessed to be able to be raised by my dad, my mom and all the people in Chicago.
And they love my dad. And it's still to this day of heck, when they won the World Series, our son was working at a Yahtzee's while he was getting his master's in sports psychology at Adler University.
The middle son was a mental skills coach. And he he walked, he would leave yacht season during the run for the world series, he would walk by and all the people had put chalk on the wall.
Yeah. He wrote, he wrote something for Papa Bill, his grandfather, my dad on that wall.
And even though, you know, I was a pirate at that time, I had to take that and really cherish it to my heart.

So I respect that. I respect people more than the game of baseball.
The people are involved in baseball. I've been, you know, from from man, from having Felipe Alou as my my manager back in, you know, 1989 to now his son, Louie Rojas in the Mets,

or to be Jerry Manuel hiring me as a Gulf Coast League manager in 1987, and then being his bench coach in 2010, being able to be with players like Nomar Garcia-Parr. Nomar Garcia-Parr left me a text last night, and it was because I threw a home run hitting contest to him in 99 in Fenway, and he sent me a text and said he watched with his kids.
He watched me and Pete Alonso, and it was so special to my heart. So when you ask that question, I didn't even think it's the people in baseball.
Yeah, I respect that more than anything. That's a great answer.
And you were at that 99 home run derby. So for people who don't know, that was a legendary home run derby it was mcguire it was sosa it was griffey it was bonds it was all the guys in that era did you know at the moment at that time you looking around like these guys uh this is incredible i'm not going to ask a steroids question but these guys are incredible and like did you have a second while you're watching it like this is this is something people will look back and look at all the legends that are playing in this game i did and the story if you backtrack just a little bit when nomar asked me because home run derby wasn't a big deal at that time um oh nomar asked me probably about a week before he goes hey they've asked me to be in the home run hitting contest and he was in the group i threw to he goes I want you to throw.
I said, Oh my, I got three young kids and my, my wife's rented a place in the Cape to get away. Cause I spent no time with you.
I used to take the bus. I lived in Brighton in Boston and I take bus 56 to the ballpark.
We only had one car and it was easier to get in, but I couldn't drive and cause leave the family by himself. So I didn't get a whole lot of time with the family.
So I came back. I said, No Mar, I don't know.
Let me ask my wife. And so I go back and say, Billy, No Mar has asked me to be in the home run hitting contest and throw to him.
But we've got this. And she right away, even before she goes, no, you've got to do this.
It'll be great. And I said, oh, yeah, it'll be awesome for the kid.
It'll be great. Eight, six, and two-year-old kids, no problem.
So sure enough, we do it. But I stepped on the field that day to throw BP on the Monday to the whole American League.
I threw to everybody in the American League. And then threw to a whole lot because people didn't bring their BP throws at that time.
So I threw to a whole lot of the home run hitting guys, too, because that day I threw probably 850 pitches. And so, but I stepped onto the field that day and I forgot my kids were anywhere.
I had no idea who kids because it was, it was tremendous. There was Bonds and there was Sosa and there was Larry Walker and there was Vlade Jr.
There was, uh, Oh, everybody. And then of course, Gwen and Ripken with Ted Williams coming out before the game.
But so, so when you say, was it legendary? It was, I was, I was a little kid. It was, it was really special.
And I got to see Ernie. He are the national league captain was Ernie bank.
Yeah. It was the only person..
Yeah, he was the all-timer, and he was in the tent afterwards. And my wife brought me up to him and said, hey, this is David.
He got to see you when he was young with his dad. And that was a special.
And I felt the same way yesterday, though. Being out there and seeing Soto and Schwerber and then O'Connor and then Tatis Jr.
and Nick Castellanos. I mean, I forgot that the kids were in the stand until they were yelling at me and I brought them on the field and almost got security arresting us for bringing my wife and my youngest son on the field.
I think you just answered my previous question, too, because your love for the game and the people in the game is infectious, and you just talking about it is awesome. I'm smiling right now, you talking about it.
So I think, yes, I'm putting you as number one respecter of the game of baseball in America. Maybe the first family of baseball.
Yeah, that's awesome. It's just cool.
Sports should be cool sometimes, and it's cool to embrace those moments. What do you think you'd be doing if you weren't in baseball right now i'd be teaching or or uh if i didn't get a chance to go to amherst college um i i probably would be doing something around chicago um see this is perfect i'll be teaching kids and yeah yeah this is perfect because you'd be you you don't really have an answer you just be like i i'd be doing something that's similar to baseball yeah he backed into baseball yeah you'd be coaching you'd coaching kids while teaching too yeah yeah i love it that's so great exactly big cat's right like your your love of baseball i think it woke up something in just america everyone that's listening to it right now is going to love baseball a little bit more tomorrow than they did when they woke up today.
And your pitches. I hope so.
I hope they do because it is fun for me and my family, but that's what recreation and entertainment is about. And these players put in a lot of work and time to be as good as they are.

And their talent level is special.

Is special.

There's so many times I've been as a field coordinator or farm director.

And people would say, what's the highest level?

You know, what's the toughest level to get to?

From A ball to double A, because it goes, because it goes from two teams to one team.

Age is, I said, no, there's no, the biggest gap is minor leagues to the big leagues, be it triple-A to the big leagues, double-A, is the big leagues, because the big leagues is the big leagues, and there's one spot, and those guys are the most talented. They work the hardest, and it is a special game watch it from bp to taking ground balls to then the nine inning game that's tough to win it's tough to win a major league game yeah what about um as a bench coach do you have any i'm always fascinated watching people relay signals into the game especially like a third base coach relaying those to the batter do you have any any go-to fake signals that you do to throw people off? If I did and I'd say to them, I'd have to change all the 12 or 14 we have for this coming series because, yes, you have a bunch.
And you know what? I think we probably overdo it because it's tough to pick up signs from the other club. It's a lot easier to pick them up if you've got technology involved, and they've stopped that.
But without technology, it's tough to get signs. Well, let me put it this way.
Have you ever had a bluff signal that you've worked on, and you're like, I think I got something here. This is going to be a good bluff signal.
And then you've used it in a game. It's like, you know what, this one's just not working.
Yeah, but it really comes to the execution of the player because oftentimes the missed sign allows the other dugout to think they have it and all of a sudden one of your players missed the sign or you put it on wrong and all of a sudden the other club goes, oh, we don't have it anymore. So I love the missed sign because it takes away their feeling that they have the sign.
Yeah, good yeah um well dave this has been awesome we really appreciate it uh we got to come out to a game i mean we all live in new york now um i don't actually want to come out to a game i do go to the city field whenever the cubs play the mets but it's a long drive you know from the city to to the city we should get you to come out and play some wiffle ball with us and have you throw batting practice. PR coach, yeah.
The wiffle ball doesn't stay as straight as the real ball. Yes.
But, yeah, and guess what? If you're coming out only because you're coming to the Cubs, get those tickets from David Ross or something like that. I'm not leaving them for you.
If you're coming out to see the Mets, I'll see if I can leave you some French tickets in that way up top. Yeah, right.
The nose beads. All right, I love it.
Well, thank you so much for doing this. Really appreciate it.
Enjoy tonight and great pitching. Like, incredible pitching performance last night.
Thank you. Okay, let's wrap up.
We've got guys on chicks.

All right, these are from last week, Youngstown Bob,

so if they're bad, blame him.

Hey, Dad, Cat, I'm a week away from the due date for our first baby.

My husband has been very supportive and excited for the big day,

but has told me he's going to be saying poosh, poosh

with the drive to survive accent while holding my hand during delivery.

How many of these do I have to put up with

before kicking him out of the delivery room? Oh, man. We're in mode push.
Poo-poo-poo-poo-poo-poo-poo-poo-poo-poo-poo-poo-poo-poo, he's not going to do jokes. Because I tried to do a joke, and then I was shut down quickly by everyone in the room.
And then it was jokes you just get a look and you know no it's not a joke in place I don't joke we've all gotten that look before where you try to bring some levity to a situation that's not always appreciated yeah um yeah that is funny though push push yeah just do it in your head yeah maybe whisper it yeah hey guys especially dad cat I recently stopped breast pumping for my four-month-old, but my left boob won't stop producing milk. Do you have any tips to solve this problem? No, I do not.
PFT? I mean, I've got a lot of ideas for how that works. Sure you do, big boy.
Just have somebody suck on it all the time. Just find somebody that wants to suck on it and just let them suck.
How early on in hooking up? Wait, could you actually blow into it like you're blowing bubbles if you blew into the nipple? Why are you asking me? I don't blow into tits. Well, speaking of cat tits.
I would, if I was with a lady that gave birth to my child, I would really explore the breasts and the whole milk situation. Have you tried it? Have you tasted it? No.
That's kind of weird. I would definitely taste the breast milk.
I don't think you would. It's so weird.
You can sell it online. Billy knows all about that.
It's like the most valuable thing for bodybuilders. For Girl, Dad, Big Cat, how do I get my tatas to be as perky as yours? I know people give you shit.
people give you shit but i am seriously jealous thanks it's the big ben diet it's do 20 push-ups every like two or three months right before you have to take your shirt off and then you're good to go no i that's mean i know i have breasts i'm working on it i don't know if you guys noticed but i haven't been eating carbs lost. Lost a couple pounds.
Going to keep working. All right, last one.

Also, I want to say I like your shirt today a lot.

Oh, thank you.

It's my pot.

Can you give me an Australian party shirt accent?

It's my posse shirt.

There it is.

It's Chilean.

Last one.

I saw on my boyfriend's phone a list of girls, and I was at the bottom of the list.

When I asked him about it, when I asked him about it, he said it was all the girls he

kissed, not all the girls he said sex with. Yeah.
No, every guy has that. Is he telling the truth? Yeah.
Do guys keep lists of who they kiss? Uh-huh. Why was there a list of girls he kissed but not the girls he's fucked? He said it was so the list was longer? Thanks.
Oh, my God. It's a totally normal thing that every guy does.
We've all got our list of smooches we it with us. Yeah, just believe him on this one.
You don't want to dig too deep on... Hey, babe, what's your number? 10,000? No, kisses.
Oh, 40,000. Like, what is it? Who does...
Could be 45 if we're talking no tongue, too. Do you count your, like, aunt?

The kiss on the cheek?

Oh, that counts.

Probably.

Yeah, I mean, if he's trying to get the list as long as he can, you really-

Girls and I kissed.

Oh, my God.

There's actually a possibility that this person is in sixth grade.

That's true.

And so if you're a 12-year-old listener of part of my take, then yeah, I think probably every guy has a list, at least in their brain, in sixth grade of girls, I guess. Yes, yes.
Just hope that it's... Look, the worst case that you're thinking right now is that it's girls that he's fucked, which it 100% is.
But the worst, worst case is what if he was just ranking the girls that he's fucked that he likes in your last. Then's really bad so just hope it's not that yeah i mean it sounds for your sake it could be the girls that he's fucked in order of most recent to least recent yeah in which case you're sitting pretty at the end of that yeah good job actually if you ever that's a little tip for guys if you're ever suspected on cheating on somebody you just make a list and then you leave it out somewhere that they'll find it and she'll be like what's this list it's like oh i made a list of all the girls i've had sex with since i was born until now oh you're at the end oh it's so embarrassing you found my list uh all right billy recap ready to roll by the way so people uh billy's back on his recap on monday we fell off a little bit, and then afterwards when we stopped taping, he was like, so I was talking to a weapons dealer, and we're like, Billy, that's exactly what we want on the recap.
So he's ready to roll. Well, so first things first, Christian Jelic talked about a Velcro sound coming off the ball, and I was really hoping that I'm going to go look for it online in the replays, but I really want to hear what that noise sounded like in the stadium.
Last year, yeah. Yeah, find that for us.
Billy, can I give you a little tip? Yeah. Even if you don't find any that make that sound, add some in and post, and then you're going to go so fucking viral.
Yep. Be like, hey, check out.
Do it for – maybe not actually. Do it for Garrett Cole.
Okay. Yeah.
Oh. Perfect.
The longest – Who were you going to say? Nope. The longest home run in MLB history before StatCast was 582 feet in 1987, but Soto's was the longest in the StatCast.
Who hit that one? Wait, you found the distance and not the person? I just wanted to confirm the Soto. That feels like...
You keep going, I'll find it. That feels like such a fake stat.
It was probably that Glen Allen Hill home run. Yeah, they hit the building.
Actually, we should be asking Bubba. Bubba knows all the Mashes taters.
Longest home runs in home... Oh, that's home run derby history.
Aaron Judge, we were there for that. Yep.
513. What's the sickest home run of all time, Bubba? I still think the Barry Bonds at Yankee Stadium when it goes into the third deck.
Yeah. Yeah.
That's a good one. And it leaves in like two seconds.
Longest verified home run was Babe Ruth at Tiger Stadium. No chance.
He hit one 575 feet. I feel like feet were smaller back then.
And that's the longest that we have.

So 575.

I found 582 in 1987.

But you don't know who.

But it keeps going.

Anyway, Ryan Burr, he was the one who also broke the Belichick-Guerrero story

where they were fighting.

So there may be truth to this Ben Roethlisberg diet

because he did break the TB12 diet story.

That ended up being completely true, and they never won another super bowl after that right hey yeah joey meyer of the denver zephyrs that was your 582 yeah mile high the denver zephyrs and denver zephyrs could forget yep um okay also uh steven a smith also had to apologize to nigeria he like apologized to multiple countries, he just did the, I'm sorry to everyone. Yeah, to everyone in a huge, it looked like a college athlete apologizing for something.
It was like a big nose app. Also, just so funny when Stephen A.
Smith has to put on his serious voice. Yeah.
It's just a very funny thing to watch him have to go go and be like now yesterday i said some things well

because you always expect when he uses that hush tone because steven a is is so good at that he

makes you lean in and listen to him talk when he gets real soft yeah and he comes over the top and

he raises his voice and that's when he smashes you so when he's like i'd like to apologize to

all the viewers out there of nigerian descent for absolutely nothing yeah you expect for him

to come over the top with.

And also I can totally see how Jake broke his

Thank you. the viewers out there of Nigerian descent for absolutely nothing.
You expect for him to come over the top with it. And also I can totally see how Jake broke his ankle on a flat surface after seeing that video.
Oh, also the Jake video, he is, someone pointed out online, Big J Jake taking free merch from a program. That's true.
Interesting. Well, I mean, it was just Rico walking out with a giant box.
Yeah, and there were young boys inside of it. Jake is now a pedophile as well.
No, don't say that. Don't say that.
What's the baby's blood that's in there? Yeah, it's the platelet-rich baby's blood Jake was walking out of there. I'm just saying, if he's wearing some Arkansas swag, it's tough for him to be completely neutral, is it not? I don't think that he should be allowed to commentate on SEC basketball next season.
Correct. Agreed.
He should recuse himself from all things hog-related. Yes.
Tortoises have no natural lifetime. They can only be killed by other things.
They never die of old age. I thought we – didn't we talk about this? Wait, they can't die of old age.
That was the jellyfish. They can't die of old age i thought we didn't we talk about this wait they can't die of old age they're jellyfish old age tortoises they need like something else to kill them like a heart attack nature yeah yeah like nature time i think tortoises do die billy they do die but they don't have any like no tortoise dies of natural causes like if you left the torto and kept, like...
Forever. Right.
There was a tortoise named Curious George. Lonesome George.
Lonesome George. I actually mushed Lonesome George.
Yeah. What does that mean? I went to Ecuador.
It was the oldest living animal on the earth. Right.
I went to Ecuador, went out to the Galapagos Islands. I was going to meet Lonesome George the next day, the night before he died.

He was like 180 years old.

The whole time. I don't think he mushed him.

I think he just didn't like you.

Yeah, he actually pulled a smart move.

So you killed Lonesome George?

Lonesome George, allegedly.

Billy, by the way, you're back.

That was great.

Love you guys.

That's exactly what we're looking for.

62.

We've got your numbers.

69.

8.

59.

That was exactly what we're looking for, Billy. Round of applause for Billy.
Yeah, Billy. 69 is on the bottom.
Good stat. And on top.
Denver Zephyrs. Oh, my God.
Oh, my God. Dude, 69 was just bouncing around on top.
65. 65.
So close. Also, Billy asked if he could write a blog for tomorrow's show from the interview interview Jake is absolutely going to listen to the show and he's going to try to get that blog out super early I bet so blog off blog on a blog who's going to blog at first I'll just do right now oh oh Jake if you're listening feel free to blog what you think you should be doing about your SEC journalistic liabilities for next year.

No, you know what?

Billy, you cuck him.

I'm not actually lazy.

Okay.

No, you're not.

We're not saying that.

I will go blog.

Listen, we're going to end the show,

but blog the discussion about Jake's handshake.

Okay.

Yeah.

Love you guys. Thank you.
Take me on.

I'll be gone.

But I don't want to. so