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Suns in four. That ending ruled.
ruled that was awesome tonight is one of those nights where it's like this is hey big cat this is why we sports this is why we sports this is why we stay up if you missed it it's after midnight right now it is after midnight not a brag but if you missed it it was an all time ending because you had everything you had playoff showing up with, he actually made a nice layup a couple plays before this, but showing up with the back-to-back free throw misses. You had 16 replays that made the last two minutes of the game go, what, like an hour, I think.
And then you had one of the coolest plays I've ever seen for a game winner, Jay Crowder with an absolutely perfect pass, Devin Booker with a nice screen, to DeAndre Ayton who basically caught it in the rim and then dunked it home. That's the play that you...
Shout out to all of us that have ever watched the end of a basketball game that are like, they should just throw it up to the tallest guy and have him dunk it. It is the play.
You say it all the time. You're like, wait, why don't they just do this play for the inbound? It's impossible to do.
The Suns not only pulled it off, they pulled it off for a game winner with .7 seconds left. DeAndre Ayton, he's a fucking beast, man.
He's like, DeAndre Ayton's showing up to the whole Trae Young, Luka Doncic, that draft ruled discussion being like, I rule too. I'm awesome on defense and offense.
DeAndre Ayton, I don't think has ever missed a shot in the NBA. He just dunks the ball all the time.
I think if you look back on these playoffs, I don't know if it's just a hot streak that he's been on, but he's got to be shooting like 90% from the field. It's insane.
Figure it all out. He's just yamming.
He's just yamming on fools left and right. 70% in his last 10 games.
That's pretty good. That's pretty good, considering I was obviously exaggerating the 90%.
70% is insane. He's just jamming on everybody.
Playoff PP came back big time from the charity stripe. And although it's sad to watch, it's always nice when our stereotypes of certain players end up being true.
It makes you feel smart. I feel bad for Playoff P in this circumstance just because he is like the Clippers right now.
You know, Terrence Mann, obviously, on the Friday night game. What? What? He missed two free throws.
You know, I'm saying he's carrying the Clippers and he's fucking gassed. There's no...
There's no... What? Free throws at the end of the game.
I know, but I'm sick. You have to call it free throws for a reason.
I'm trying to put it into perspective that he has not been playoff P this entire playoffs. He was playoff P in that moment.
He has not been playoff P this entire playoffs. He has had good moments.
He has, with Kawhi going out, winning that Utah series. That was bad.
That was bad. That was tough.
All the replay reviews got to be a little bit much, but fortunately we had Mark Jackson, Jeff Van Gundy,

just doing freestyle open mic scat poetry,

just letting all their thoughts hang out when Jeff Van Gundy was like,

I understand that this is the correct call, but they shouldn't call it.

It's like, no, that's exactly what happened.

The ball was out of bounds on Devin Booker.

Right.

Change the rule, but if you're going to play by these rules,

that went off his hand last. I think his theory was like, you can't...
If you look at the play, it was Pat Beverly who caused the ball to go out of bounds, but then that takes you back. You can go down a very slippery slope on that one when you're like, well, what actually caused things to happen? Now you're judging intents of basketball.
It's like, no, you just call it based on who it last touched

while it was in bounds.

It's pretty simple.

I think Mark Jackson and Jeff Van Gundy,

I think the reason why they hate replays is that they know

that if they have to talk like that without the game action going on,

it's just the meter for America hating them goes up and up and up.

Oh, no, I think they love it.

I think they see it. Oh, no, Jeff Van Gundy hates it.
Mark Jackson loves having 30 seconds of dead air to kill for Mark Jackson. He looks at that like we look at a giant big plate of buffalo wings.
He's like, let's go. Now is Mark Jackson's time to shine.
America is going to hear from MJ on this one. But Jeff Van Gundy hates it.
Probably not him. He openly hates it all the time.
Mark Jackson loves having that open mic going. I have the stats.
The final two minutes took 33 minutes to complete. And you know what? It is one of those old man yells a cloud things to be like, man, all these replays.
But it really is terrible. It really does ruin the flow of the game.
We also had DeMarcus Cousins pushing Devin Booker, which just no one talked about. Yeah, so that should have been called, that should have been like a flagrant foul, right? I have no idea.
Because as far as I know, and this is when we get to the whole time-space thing, but the buzzer had sounded for the end of the game, but they were going back to review the end of the game to see if there was any time left on the clock. So we were in a weird limbo stage where the game was over but it hadn't been restarted yet when the foul occurred right so like then does that become a foul because the game technically wasn't over even though it was over i'm not sure i don't know the rules of that uh campaign should be shouted out because it was the campaign legacy game uh he basically kept the sons in this what did he end up with i ended up with 28? 29.
29. What a fucking beast.
I always knew it. I always knew it.
And then also, big shout-out to Devin Booker. Anytime you've got a blood game going on, you have to win a blood game.
You can't let the nose be broken for nothing. Plugged-up nose.
It was great how there was a woman in the front row wearing a Steve Nash with a bloody nose T-shirt. It's just sons and four.
We're in simulation, baby. Yeah, sons are fucking rocking.
That does feel like a backbreaker for the Clippers. Unless Kawhi comes back.
I don't know how you recover from that. Although they've been down 2-0 in every single series.
So this might be where the Clippers exactly want them. Oh, hey, you know what, Big Cat? A series doesn't start until the home team loses a game.
That's true. So here we go.
It might be, this might be exactly what the Clippers needed to get, you know, feel like they're pushing. And I think there is game three Thursday.
They're playing these series fast now. We're whipping through it.
All right. So, yeah, it is.
Oh, I was going to, while we were watching this game, I was thinking about how to start the show. Obviously, that happened, so DeAndre Ayton started the show, but the alternate start of the show was Detroit Pistons are back because they won the lottery.
They get Cade Cunningham. That's kind of cool for them.
That's it. That's about it.
That's all I got. Ben Wallace looked weird without a fro yeah it was kind of strange but uh once i saw ben wallace on there i was like okay i think i think that might bring some good magic to detroit just because ben wallace he's just awesome he's just an awesome dude country strong big time yeah uh campaign is getting on scott van pelts sports center right now so at least he's getting shine there he just he's just confident like him cook.
Just let him fucking go for it. It is election day today.
It is election day. Appropriate for campaign.
Who won? Some guy. Not Yang.
The people. Democracy won today, big cat.
In straight sets. Damn.
I got asked to vote like four times going to the subway. I don't even know.
I just know I just got a shitload of emails. I was going to vote.
I was actually on my way out of the office to vote, and then Roan was on his way out of the office to vote too. And I was like, who are you voting for? He told me.
I was like, oh, that's the opposite of who I'm voting for. So we decided to just stay here and not vote.
Nice. Cancel each other out.
Cancel each other out. That's perfect.
Okay, so what else? Oh, the hockey. Canadians are just good.
I don't understand it. I think Price just keeps standing on his head.
It is crazy, though, because everyone, the foregone conclusion, we talked to our Chiclets guys who are experts, is that the Knights would have killed them. Now the Canadians are up 3-2 going home to try to get to the Stanley Cup final, which would be also fitting for a Canadian team to win the Stanley Cup in a year where there can't be fans.
In Canada only. Are there going to be zero fans? No, I think they have a few thousand.
They're probably going to do the thing where maybe they'll bring back some of the first responders that they had up in Toronto. They've had a few thousand.
Not those first responders probably. Those are, it turns out they were bad luck, but some of their own.
How do you say wagon in French? I think it's just wagon. Le wagon.
Le wagon. Le wagon.
Le rouge rider wagon. Yeah, they're amazing.
And Fleury, man, this might be, we might have been watching the end of Fleury's career in real time over the last week. Yeah.
Because I don't know what happened. What is Wachew.
Wachew, that's Carr. Let's go with Le Wagaton.
Le Wagaton. Le Wagaton.
But yeah, Fleury, I think that might be the end of the road for him. They tried to give him the start, and they thought that he could bounce back, but I guess he got lit up again.
Yep, and for the Islanders, good news for you. You lost 8-0 on Monday night night but help is on the way hank pft and i are going to be in the collie on wednesday night so we were i don't know what i don't we could see the greatest game of all time we could see people ripping their chairs out of their seats you know the seats out carrying them, crying.
It's the whole gamut of emotions could happen on Wednesday night.

My understanding is that since it's the last game that could be played at the Coliseum,

if they end up losing all the concessions that are there at the end of the game, they're free.

They are free.

They no longer.

So all the hot dogs, the entire dessert cart, all the beers that they have left over, all the popcorn, you name it.

I feel like we can just walk out with those.

Yeah.

Take down all the banners.

Listen, it would be, yeah, take the banners.

But yeah, it'll be fun to be there.

Hopefully they won't lose 8-0.

Yes.

That'd be nice.

I agree with that.

I hope they do not lose 8-0.

It's almost impossible for them to lose 8-0.

Actually, I would disagree.

I would rather it be 9-0.

More seats for us, because people would probably leave early. Yeah, I was going to say, if it's 8-0, we're going to beat the traffic.
True. So, yeah, 8-0 I'd be cool with.
Either way. Like a 4-1 loss with an empty net goal would suck.
Where it's like, oh, maybe they can come back. Yeah.
That probably is a prediction that's exactly what's going to happen.ting down the old barn. Yep.
Shutting down the old barn. All right.
The other thing, Carl Nassib made big news. First active NFL player to come out of the closet.
Pretty big news. Actually, huge news.
Yeah. I know there's a lot of people like, this isn't news.
Yeah, it is. It was massive news, but also shout out to Carl for how almost understated and chill he was.
His message was like, hey, what's up, guys? It's me, Carl. Just real quick.
I want to say I'm gay. And that was pretty much it.
It's like how John Wayne would have come out of the closet. Yeah.
Yeah, it was. I mean, it's a big moment.
I know not having just the fact that people will. and I thought we're at a point now where I didn't see a lot of negative stuff.
I really didn't. I thought a lot of people were like, that's awesome.
Cool. There were a few comments about it.
Actually, it speaks to something that Sig Ziegler has been saying for a while. He's the dude over at Outsports.
He's been saying this for years, which is like the NFL is ready for it. Right.
The players, like vast, vast majority are going to be supportive when it does happen. Correct.
It'll almost be like a joyous occasion when it does happen. And sure, you're going to have some fans that are probably going to cross a few lines that are not going to react the best way.
I didn't see it. But for the most part, I mean like more so during the regular season.
Yeah. But I think for the most part, it was overwhelmingly supportive, which was cool to see.
Yeah. And then even John Gruden.
So that was the question. It's like, what's old John going to say about this? And John was super supportive.
I would imagine that. He said, I think what I learned a long time ago, that what makes a man different makes him great.
I was like, that's cool, John. Also, he needs every defensive player he can have right so that that does play it yeah i i also i think maybe we should have like a recurring recurring character on the show just like extremely tolerant john gruden yeah hey man tell me how you do that stuff carl like you can you explain to me i think that's awesome man i invented grinder dude oh i did man you had that one right locked and loaded to go i didn't want to tweet it out yeah i know you definitely had that locked didn't want to go for the last day and a half didn't want to put that one on the internet man how do you guys decide who pays for dinner when you go out man this one go ahead keep going no i'm just i'm just i'm just rolling man this is this open mic night that's awesome pft i love this stuff anything else? you have one more no I don't I don't but I do think

that John Gruden

is man. This is open mic night.
That's awesome. PFT is John Gruden.
I love this stuff. Anything else? You have one more.
No, I don't. But I do think that John Gruden is probably going to be like super over the top.
Like any gay guy that John Gruden meets, he's going to be like I got to introduce you to Carl, man. You love Carl.
You have to get along so well. Probably.
I mean it was very cool. The Trevor project that he he donated to i thought was like that was the other part of his video like he not only came out and was like hey i'm not trying to make this a big deal this is just who i am which is great and everyone was accepting of it but also the trevor project which i had no idea about and i was like holy shit i read about it it's like there i saw the stat that he posted.
It was, if there's a suicidal, I'm going to fuck this up. Help me.
LGBTQ. Like teenager or kid, suicidal.
If they have one accepting adult in their life, it's a 40% chance less likely that they will, you know, be suicidal, commit suicide. So it's really just, if you're an adult being accepting and finding a way to be that person that is like, be, be show, show that to people, be like, Hey, I'm happy for Carl Nassib.
This is awesome. There's no negative to this.
This is a great, great thing. People should be really happy about it.
And that can have an impact on someone's life.

Yeah, it was awesome.

So that's it.

I was actually like, when I saw the news come out and I saw the reaction to it,

it made me feel like happy about the future of the world.

It's like, all right, I think we've got our shit together as a country.

Agreed, agreed.

All right, so.

I got one more.

These are bad.

Okay, go ahead.

Wait, they were bad?

I like the dinner one. The dinner one was good.
The dinner one was good. I think it's the Gruden.
I like them. I think it's the voice.
Okay, go ahead. Wait, they were bad? I like the dinner one.

The dinner one was good.

The dinner one was good.

I think it's the Gruden.

I like them.

I think it's the voice.

Thank you, Hank.

It's good.

Listen, we need to support each other.

I thought this was...

Thumbs up.

All right, strongest bond now between me and Hank.

Second, the bedliner.

Okay.

I was just going to say DK Metcalf is still the straightest player in the NFL.

Wait, you want to do it in the Gruden voice?

No, it's not a Gruden.

Okay, got it. Got it.
You didn't want to tweet any of these? No, no, no. Nobody.
No, they weren't bad. I just, the accent, you know.
There was a time when Big Cat supported my John Gruden voice. Yeah, I guess.
It was a while ago. I don't know.
I don't know. I don't.
I maybe once we hired joey and it's like he's the axe the the impression guy oh i suck at impressions right but i still do him right oh i know oh i know i'm the james i know you do i'm the james winston of impressions i go out there give me a little jerry jones it's it's pretty similar i know that's why i want to give it to you jerry reacted to the news yeah give me jerry reaction. Jerry was like, give me that boy Michael Sam on the phone.

Let's get back on the roster.

I ain't going to let this some bitch take my headlines from me.

All right, see, that's good.

I like the off the cuff.

That's good.

Jerry, give me Greeny's reaction.

He's getting it.

He's finding it.

He's finding it.

My wife. That's it.
Oh, my God. You think Sean McVay is jealous of John Gruden? For what? That John Gruden gets to be Mr.
Cool Coach now? Yeah, probably a little. He's cold calling all his players, asking, you got anything you want to tell me? Yeah.
Hey, who's he got on his team that he could be like, hey, come on. See, I don't want to even say because then you run into.
Yeah, no, you put me in that spot right there. The speculation police.
Yeah. All right.
The bottom line is, you know what's great? As straight guys. Yeah.
I want to preface by saying that. We're able to joke about it.
Yeah. So no idea if that was appropriate or not, but I think the general feel is that good

for Carl, and we're happy that we're able to accept this and move forward as a society.

It's an awesome, awesome thing.

Yep.

Nothing but happiness.

All right.

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Okay, Hank, hot seat, cool throne, henry my hot seat is being that guy oh you're not that guy pat was you know that guy pal no not that guy pal pal you know that guy pal pretty much you know it's a great clip but i think that's going to be the you know the clip of the summer everything you do with your friends yeah your co-workers pretty much anything any tweet anything that goes out any instagram post you're going to see comments about you're not that guy you're not that guy or you are that guy uh but hot seat just if you think you're that guy you're going to be told over the next few months many times that you in fact are not yeah if you go into a situation you're like i think i'm that dude right now you're it turns out that like you can just get cut down to size via a gif is there any like backstory that we have to this or do we know what happened afterwards well the backstory is pretty simple that once you get past the ages of 45 50 and you're a father and maybe you have a little bit of physique maybe physique maybe you go you're just assuming he's a father yeah i am he it looked like he was at costco or something you have a strength that no one wants to fuck with so that was such a classic like he was probably talking to a kid somewhere in the late teens early 20s and he just essentially put him right in his you know place where he's like look you think that you're hot shit but you're not that pal. And that would scare the fuck out of me if I were that 20-year-old kid.
I would walk out of that place, the Costco Sam's Club, and go and cry in my car, because there's something about that dad strength that is very intimidating. It's just anybody over the age of 50 that says something super confidently to you, you're inclined to just believe what they say.
Their hands, that guy's hands are wrenches.

That guy, he looked like, what's his name?

Was it Coach Taylor from Friday Night Lights?

He looked like his brother.

He looked like, yeah, his alcoholic brother that had been out in the sun all day.

And just like telling you you're not that guy.

Like me watching it, I believed I wasn't that guy either.

That's how far he reached through the computer.

We'll put the audio clip in here just in case no one's seen it.

Just for reference. You're not that guy, pal.
Trust me. You're not that guy.
Okay. Are you? Absolutely.
But that guy. Just word of warning, you're not going to be that guy after you hear this.
What that guy did is it's an incredible skill that only a select few guys have where you basically diffuse a fight. What is that beeping? You diffuse a fight and win a fight with a sentence.
You diffuse a fight and win a fight with just saying something to the person that wants to maybe partake in a fight. What is that beeping? I think it's the Coors Light Cooler.
Or is that Billy's ankle monitor? Oh, yeah. Shit.
Are you not supposed to be here? No, dude. I ate my month.
Oh, okay. All right.
You're not that guy, pal. Yeah.
Good hot seat, Hank. Thank you.
And then my cool throne is Matt Stafford. Yeah.
He is that guy. He is that guy.
According to Sean McVay, this is that time of year when these quotes happen where immediately after I saw it, I went and looked at the Barstool Sportsbook, looked at Matt Stafford's odd, and was like, hmm, this looks good. But Sean McVay was talking to Albert Breer and said, bro, this dude's a bad motherfucker.
I'm rooting for Matt Stafford. Wait, keep going with the quote, sorry.
Whatever people say about him, as good as it can be, he's even better than advertised. It makes sense to him.
The guy's ability to see the game, his ability to draw on his experiences, the feel that he has. It's pretty special and unique.
And man, his feel for people, his authentic way of connecting with his teammates, his coaches, this guy. It's great being around him.
That quote, MVP. I saw it.
I saw the future. Dude, I'm rooting for Matt Stafford because there's a few takes that we all have out there that are just lingering.
And Matt Stafford being a Hall of Famer would be...

I could retire on that take.

It's definitely a case of Jared Goff doing the SpongeBob meme

out the window, looking at those two.

Yeah, you know.

He never used to talk dirty to me like that.

But guess what?

That's good for Jared.

That's good motivation.

Yeah, excellent motivator.

I'm sure that Dan Campbell's gassing him up behind the scenes

in his own way.

Right.

He doesn't feel the need to say it publicly.

Why would you want to be with someone who doesn't love you?

You never would.

It's a waste of time. Waste of time.
It's actually, I think both sides won that breakup. Yeah, sure.
Agreed. Agreed.
That's it. That's my hot seat and my cool throne.
All right, Hank. Good job, Hank.
Those are two solid choices. I appreciate it.
You are that guy. Gassing up the bros.
Yeah. My hot seat.
You're not that guy, pal. My hot seat is.
I can't wait to be old dad where I'm just like, I'm so beaten down by everything that I will beat you up with my words. I feel like Billy is what I think of when I think of listeners now.
I think of a group of him and his friends just being drunk and being like, you're not that guy. No, you're not that guy, pal.
All day long. Which is funny because they actually are not.
None of them are that guy. Right.
But so they're all correct when they say that to each other. Right.
And, right. And you've seen some shit.
I'm sure that dude's probably spent 15 years changing diapers. He's got the 1,000 yards there.
He's like, nothing that happens in the supermarket. Huh? Maybe he's got like a Nick Cannon situation going.
First of all, yeah, exactly. Maybe he's Nick Cannon just skeeting in everybody.
But, yeah, you could be changing diapers for 15 years. Maybe you've got, like, three kids that suck at shitting, and then, like, five others that are just alcoholics just crapping the bed all the time.
Anyways, my hot seat is, like, seven different quarterbacks in the NFL. Just off the top of my head, I think Gardner Minshew, Drews, Breeze, Endlock, Nick Foles, Daniel Jones, and Phillip Rivers, probably to name a few.
Because Tom Brady went on LeBron's show The Shop, which he stole from Nick Saban at Alabama. And they released a preview of it.
And in the preview, Tom was talking about the courtship, the quarterback courtship that happened last year. And there was one team in particular where he said, really? You're going to stick with that motherfucker over me? So now everybody's trying to guess.
I mean, it was the Bears. What team? Well, it could be the Bears.
I actually think he's talking about Mitch. I think he was, I would say maybe the Colts.
I don't think he would play for the Colts. I felt like they were.
It could be Drew Locke, too. Drew Locke is a good one.
He was always talking about the Saints. Really? I didn't think he was close.
But I don't think he would say that about Drew Brees. I think Tom Brady would say that about literally anybody.
Yeah, I think it's a non-personal thing. Actually, no, it was on LeBron James' show.
He was probably talking about Delonte West. I just say, when you have insecurities in life, and the Chicago Bears are my insecurity, you just think everyone's talking about you.
So you're like, oh, fuck. That was definitely directed towards the Bears.
It's definitely like a Rorschach test. Whatever team you thought should have gone out to get Tom Brady last year.
There are a bunch of fans of different franchises that are going to see this and be like, yeah, he's talking about us. Because that's the effect Tom Brady has.
And it turns out he was probably right that they wouldn't be sticking with that motherfucker. Yeah, won a Super Bowl.
Billy, what were you going to say? I think it was Garoppolo because he wanted to retire. Actually, you know that? Yeah, you're right.
Actually, that is who it is. No, I really do think that's who it is.
I forgot when I first saw the clip. I was like 49ers.
And then I started getting in my feels and was like Bears. Well, sabermetrically, it's also most likely to be Phillip Rivers.
He's probably fucked the most mom. But I don't think he ever would have gone to the Colts.
That never felt like real. Yeah.
The 49ers and the Bears both were linked to him. It would have been so spiteful if he went to the 49ers.
Yeah. And just fucked over Jimmy again.
Yeah. I actually would have loved that.
And I think that that's why. Yeah.
I don't think he's that spiteful though. He definitely won that break.
You don't think Tom Brady's that spiteful? No. I mean he was.
He forced him out of town and then he won two Super Bowls. He's won that.
You don't think Tom Brady is that spiteful? No, I mean, he was. He forced him out of town, and then he won two Super Bowls.
He's won seven Super Bowls, and he still is like 199th pick. It's like, no, you're not.
You're the seventh Super Bowl guy. It's a great motivator.
It's credit to him. He's able to keep that.
If I won seven Super Bowls after being a six-round draft pick or fifth round, whatever

it is, I think I would start to be like,

you know what? I think I'm pretty good. I'm that

dude. Yeah, I am that guy.

And then my

cool throne is

the notion of

amateurism dying in America.

Because the Supreme Court put

an Alabama Notre Dame-style

beatdown on the NCAA. Nine to nothing.
It was a hockey score. It was an Islanders lightning score.
And they essentially said, guess what? You cannot define amateurism as being an entity that does not pay people. So they were using the term amateurism to describe amateurism and using that to explain why you can't provide benefits to players.
and the biggest thing coming out of this, first of all, it's like the first domino to fall. So the NCAA is done.
And you're always not in a great position when the federal government is like, this organization is really fucking corrupt. And when you can get like nine Supreme Court judges to agree on anything, you're probably fucked.
So it's like the first domino to fall and one of the things that they ruled is that uh schools are allowed to provide as many education related expenses as they want to players so that includes free laptops and post-education paid internships cam newton would still be a florida gator the free laptop thing is interesting because you could in theory provide an athlete with like an entire dorm room filled with servers for them to mine cryptocurrency in that dorm room like lsu could be like hey we're going to name we're going to build a new dorm called the arch manning dormitory it's just going to be filled with computers and so you can just generate money for yourself while you're here but you'd have to be like a computer programmer if yeah the school could probably find a couple computer programmers oh so they would get the laptops no no no you would give them to arch man got it got it and then they while they were at lsu or ole miss or wherever they were going to school they just have like a full-time income generating uh server farm mining bitcoins got Got it. So that's going to be the new cash app or Venmo payments, I think, if I can see the future.
Got it. Crypto mines at campuses for the college students.
There's nothing. Right now, according to what the law says, you can provide students with as many computers as you want to.
Why not? In that instance. But the bottom line is the NCAA is fucked.
It's on its last legs. Yeah, which is good.
If anything, I mean, I hope they include one of their decisions that just bring back the crystal ball from the BCS. I do think there's going to be a group of people that like, what do they do now that they don't have the free points of just being like the NCAA sucks because that's a dunk online that anyone can do and everyone would be like yeah good point even though we all I think there's not besides maybe Doug Gottlieb and maybe Dickie V maybe Danny Canel a lot of people yeah oh Dan Dockens there's not a lot of people left out there who are like yeah these kids getting sweatpants in a trip to italy for every four years that's payment yeah right so it you lose something you do but at this point you've got clarence thomas and sotomayor agreeing on something so i mean that's pretty much the end of it that means that like 99.5 percent of america agrees that the ncaa is done yeah wait was that your cool thrower hot seat uh that was was that that a hot seat or was that a cool throne? I think that was a hot seat.
It was your cool throne. You said it was the notion of.
The notion of, yeah, amateurs being fucked over. Yeah.
All right. My hot seat is Greg Gard.
I think people probably saw it. The Wisconsin Badgers season was not a great one for college basketball.
They did beat Roy Williams in the tournament. His last game ever.
Not a big deal but the story came out very weird story all the seniors the seven seniors uh taped greg guard a private conversation basically saying he's a terrible coach they don't have his back very weird story i don't know how he recovers from it but i also did i kind of expected this because if you watch them they were good last or the COVID year. They were peaking.
And then this year they completely sucked and they never took the next step forward. So that's got to be a shitty feeling, though, to be a coach.
And a few months after your season flames out, being like, oh, yeah. And all your seniors taped an hour-long conversation you had with them.
Yeah, it's tough. So what do you do moving forward? Like, no cell phones? Do you treat your office like a skiff?

Like, no electronics?

Let's lift your shirt up.

Let's see if you're wearing a wire.

You've got to be constantly nervous.

Yeah.

Constantly nervous.

And so Greg Gard was like, I think he probably knows who taped it.

I think if you're a coach, you probably have a good idea who it was.

Was it Trice?

Well, Brad Davidson is doing another year.

Yeah.

So I don't know.

That's got to be awkward. That's very awkward.
That's got to be really awkward. But I don't think Davison would wear a wire.
No, but he was in the room. Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, it sucks. So, oh, Devin Booker.
Time traveling. We're not going to time travel.
My cool throne is Skip Bayless. Still got it.
I don't know if you guys saw this. I didn't watch the actual segment.
But a tweet that he had previewing his show, he said, Why are LeBron and AD following Russell Westbrook's wife on Instagram now on Undisputed? I love it. I love it.
That is, like, just when you think that he doesn't have it anymore, he just throws 99 on the black. I wish I had seen that segment because I hope Shannon Sharpe's response was, well, Skip, because he probably won a fucker.
Yeah. Unbelievable.
The guy just can't miss. He just keeps producing.
Who do you think gave him that scoop? Do you think that Skip Bayless? Yeah, you're right. Is this a bonkable situation for Skip? Was he going through her followers? No.
Was he cruising her profile? What you just brought up is a very interesting point because there's very clearly a person behind the scenes working for Skip Bayless that has Skip Bayless's brain and does all the things online. Ernestine.
I want to meet that person. I feel like Ernestine is involved in like tech somehow.
She has a computer. If I had to guess it's like a 24 year old kid's probably bald and, like, let's just say fat because he can't be on camera.
He's got the brain. He's got the speaking ability.
He doesn't have the looks. And he just feeds Skip Bayless crap all day, and it just ends up on TV.
Like his little private investigator for him. Right, right.
I mean, I want to meet that person. If we're being honest, anybody that's approximately that age in sports media should have a younger person.
We're almost actually due for that. Unfortunately, we do have that person.
Yeah. He's doing great right now.
He's doing a great job. He's doing an awesome job.
He's doing incredible. Yeah, Big Cat, we should hire somebody that's younger, maybe around the age of like 22, 23, is familiar with TikTok, Instagram, and is able to feed us these hot takes about athletes that we wouldn't be able to get to.
If there's anybody out there that fits that description, please let us know. Oh, we actually did.
Is he listening right now? Memes? Shout out memes. If you've seen him, we've retweeted him a bunch.
He's very, very funny. PMT memes on Twitter.
He is now part of the crew. Yep.
Thanks to ZipRecruiter. He lived the dream.
He actually lived the dream. And people always like, how can I get hired? How can I find a job at Barstool? It's basically working and showing that you have something and never giving up on it.
And that's what he did. He basically roasted all of us enough to the point where we're like, okay, I think I like this guy.
And we have a guy named Memes now, which is fucking awesome. And I like him.
A lot. Not saying I like him more than anyone else, but I like him a lot.
Me too. Jake, your hot seat, cool throat.
Before that, I will say... This is when you should take notes and have comebacks for us at the end of the show.
We were talking about you. Right.
You got this. You got it.
All right. But you got...
Do you have a pen? Yeah. All right.
Good job, Billy. I was at a friend's house this weekend, and they had a microwave at Skip Bayless level.
Oh, really? First time I've seen it in person. Did you? I actually...
My parents are remodeling their kitchen, and they're like, we're going to get a microwave down there. And I was like, a Skip Bayless microwave.
And they're like, what do you mean? And I didn't even bother to explain it to them, but I was like, I don't know about that. What's the purpose for it? Did you ask them what they used it for? Apparently, that's the new thing.
That's the trendy. You've got to give up your piss really fast.
I actually just realized. I've been living in my place for a year now.
I don't have Skip Bayless. It's not dick level.
It's like shin level. Yeah, like low.
So it's not full Skip Bayless. It's like knee level it's very like annoying i mean that's that is something you're a tall guy though too skips not yeah it's something that if you saw if you were if you were having a few beers when you're like 22 years old and you walk into any room that has a drawer at crotch level like that thing's getting peed in at some point there there should be like an age limit like you have to be over the age of 26 before you're responsible enough to have really anything in your home that pulls out at your dicks level but i think that hank is right i think this is just how they do it and yeah because it is like it's annoying and it's like it's very annoying but it also clean design like if you just have a big microwave sitting on your countertop it doesn't look good so.
So they just stash it away. Like, build it into the...
Where I break my back. And also, I'm pretty sure...
Can you get, like, radiation through the microwave? Yeah, so I was always told don't stand in front of a microwave while it's cooking. Like, it's literally his head level.
Super powers. Yeah.
All right. Hot seat is Bryson DeChambeau and Aaron Rodgers because Brady posted some putts today.
He looks ready. Him and Phil.
I mean, we're obviously rooting for them. Yeah.
They're those guys. Duh.
A lot of people are saying that the second putt that Brady hit didn't actually go in and it was edited. I think it absolutely went in.
It was totally edited. It definitely went in.
Did you actually just ask us if we're rooting for... No, I didn't ask.
I just meant, of course. No, but you're like, we're rooting for them, right? No, I didn't say that.
Aaron Rodgers and Bryson DeChambeau. I literally tweeted this morning, like, Team Phil and...
Like, Hitler and Osama Bin Laden are playing him, and I'm probably low-key being like, I don't know these other guys. That's some comparison there.
Osama's fucking just golf, yeah. He's pretty big.
He's tall. He's fucking driving a real long way.
It's actually, what you're going through right now is exactly what the U.S. went through in like the late 80s.
So you're supporting Bin Laden because he's taken out Insane at the time. Whatever.
You just put my two biggest enemies together. I don't care who's playing against them.
Yeah. And then cool throne is Robert Griffin III.
So, ESPN and Fox are in a bidding war for him as an analyst. Whoa.
So it looks like he found his future career. How good for him? How did that start? How did we not get in that? Wait, but also, a bidding war? This seems like something that might have been leaked straight from the camp of Robert Griffin III.
I was going to say, there's no way. Because there's another anonymous quote out there that said, he's the next coming of Tony Romo.
And so we've got to in on that. You know what? It's probably his dad.
Whatever happened to you going to his fantasy camp? It's probably RG Jr. or second.
Or Greta. Greta is probably all over this.
This doesn't pass the do I have a brain in my skull test. Yeah.
Just straight up. Good for him though.
Yeah. That he's able to get people like you to say there's a bidding war I mean if pro football talk and your posts are saying it don't publish anything anything Florio come on be better this time of year exactly yeah right good point good point yeah no I don't think that I don't think there's a bidding war going on for RG3 services as much as I would like.
And by the way, his fantasy game. This is a headline.
We just sent that back to you. Do you hear it now? You hear it, right? I actually thought that RG3 would be lucky.
I thought what he was going for this whole summer, he is desperately looking for a job to be an Olympic commentator. So he's releasing all these videos of him doing hurdles and stuff out on track, just reminding people that he was an elite-level sprinter and hurdler.
The Olympics are coming up. I thought he would get lucky if Bleacher Report was like, hey, can you zoom in once a week to talk to us about hurdling? But no, you're right.
No, he's got a bidding war. I heard that Chris Collinsworth is getting squeezed out.
Just saying it back out loud is so fucking funny. The executives were, quote, blown away by his audition.
Yeah, an amazing audition. I mean, if it was anything like his combine performance, like the guy, he shows up in practice for sure.
He put out a video of him running a 40-yard dash. Watch this video if you haven't seen it because he labeled it.
He put his whole stats on there. He was i'm six foot two 215 pounds 31 years old and i still run a 427 and if you just look at the video on instagram the video is five seconds long it says five seconds on the video um if it is in fact a 4.27 he is the longest strider in the history of the world because it looks like he's he's running underwater but that's listen i don't want to trash rg3 i love rg3 he's always going to have a big part of my heart um but uh bidding war bidding war is a strong term big guy you just came up on this article about oh yeah there it is i did not if i if that had been brought up when i was with florio i would have laughed in his face just like i'm laughing in yours maybe next week yeah'll try to get him to bring it up.
All right, is that it? Yes, that is it. I totally forgot about the fantasy camp thing.
His whole life is a fantasy camp. You save it for the end, Billy.
You save it for the end. You got your hot seat cool thrown in the recap.
It's been one week. You're doing great, though, Billy.
You're doing great. You're that guy right now.
You're doing awesome. Oh, baseball.
Want to talk baseball? Oh, we'll do it after the interviews. We'll do Mike Greenberg's Dumb Rules.
Sweet. And then FAQs.
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It is Tony Khan. Shot out of a cannon.

Love it. Great to see you.
I actually had this question lined up when we got a text message saying that you were here at 10. And like, hey, Tony's early.
And then we were like, all right, we're ready at 1045. And then we got a text back being like, now he needs till 10 50 i just want to give you credit that was an alpha move so that was a full time i didn't do any of that i didn't do it again that's like when you have people this is the problem with people this is why like i don't actually have an assistant and when you go on like a press tour like you have to mandy's great and like i have great people but uh you know i normally do stuff one-on-one so i should have just dm'd you man that i was gonna i know i've known pft for a while we're combine bros yeah we're happy you're here though we're happy you're here you got awesome aew shoes on we're gonna talk everything um you want to start with aew i'd love to thanks thanks for having me on this is dope yes your office is sick yes it is very do you really think it's sick yeah i love it dude really have you seen like my pile and shit this is sick your pile is great the Your office is sick.
Yes, it is very- Do you really think it's sick? Yeah, I love it, dude. Really? Have you seen my pile and shit? This is sick.
Your pile is great. The weight bench is dope.
I don't know about that. What do you think about that couch? That couch is actually broken.
I think it's good, man. I'm comfortable.
Okay, as long as you're comfortable. But I'm honestly, I'm always interested to know when people come into this room, what their real impression is.
Are they like, I'm going to pretend like I'm cool environment are they like i'm actually comfortable in this mess because i'm me and big cat we're like pigs we're comfortable in messes it feels like i'm home all right i like that the nice thing about this office is like i can keep my home clean i don't actually keep it clean myself but my office can be like my life like in college you know what i mean like this is keeps you young this room is a is gross all the time yeah man if you sub some of the subs like lenny dykstraut for sammy sosa this you know this could easily be my room in college he's our financial advisor so it's important to have just so you know we come strapped i know that you probably have done okay with your money but lenny he's 600 and 0 in a stock pick no one sorry he got one wrong humble he got one wrong and he hasn't been in jail in three years yes so if you're looking to put your money with somebody you could do worse than nails yeah it's true you could go with pete rose yeah yeah right um all right so let's talk aw wrestling so i'm a huge wrestling fan i i guess the first question i have is what made you think that you could take on the big guys?

Because it's been tried before and it hasn't worked out. But I love this because I think the best thing for wrestling is competition.

And giving the audience more than one thing to watch is always great.

So what made you think like, hey, you know what?

We can do this.

I want to do this.

This is my plan.

And let's go tackle this thing. Okay.
Have you ever – like both of you have been in a situation where sometimes you're just like you're at a party you're with friends and you're like let's just try some shit right and that was what happened i was at a party with some friends in beverly hills and i saw my friend who was a president of tnt and tbs and it all just kind of clicked like it's probably something i'd thought about a million times, but I never, until you get in the moment, and I went up to him and I said, Kev, are you looking at bidding on the WWE TV rights? And he said, yes, yes, I am. And he said, I'm not looking at bidding on both packages.
I'm looking at bidding on one of them. And I said, oh, knowing that that's, you know, of course, SmackDown.
And he said, it's going to go for probably over 150. And it ended up going for

205 million annually to Fox. But they were in on the bidding, at least initially in the initial

wave. And I said, Kev, I, you know, that's interesting.
But have you ever considered,

you know, maybe we could do this? And he was like, what do you mean? And I said, well,

the company that you operate, owned and operated 20 years ago today, which was true the day I said it, the number one wrestling company in the world. And he said, really? And I said, have you ever heard of WCW? He had not.
But WCW, if people don't know, was formerly a competitor to the WWF. They ended up getting sold by AOL Time Warner, and they got shuttered, and it's not a thing anymore, but AEW exists, in my opinion, because of the failure of WCW, because they vacated this great time slot, this great relationship with TNT and TBS that we have, and that was the success of WCW, was the outlet, the penetration they had from TNT, TBS and of course the fans and there are all these fans that wanted an alternative and so anyway that's how.
I like how you're saying this was like your buddies and you got together at a party and you're like hey let's go start a wrestling league and then sell it for millions. If it's me in that scenario I'm like let's go to 7-Eleven and order one of every kind of taquito and then come back and do a blind tasting.
That's my big plan. I bet you I can throw a football 65 yards.
No fucking way, can you? And that's basically what you were doing. And you just went full send on starting a league.
I partied with you before, man. Like 99% of the time, you don't think of stuff like that.
But every once in a while a while like the sparks there and something cool yeah so what are you gonna do what what have you done and what did you learn from wcw because like wrestling fans hardcore wrestling fans know that wcw in the 90s that's really kind of how the attitude era came because it was monday night wars and all that thing all that was going on and it was competition going at each other that elevated wrestling. So you obviously aren't in it to become make WWE better and be like competition will make them better, and then I'll just go away.
So what were like the big lessons that you learned or things that you've implemented that are different than WCW? It's a great question. So I believe that there were a lot of successes of WCW you can learn from also.
And so I've learned from the pros and the cons. And I think some of the things that went wrong for WCW, in my opinion, were the creative control.
They gave creative control to a lot of the wrestlers. And some of the storylines are asinine.
And some of the ideas were great, but like it was very disorganized show. And then when they brought somebody else in from the WWF to be a writer named Vince Russo he made it 10 times worse and he took a problem and then it's like they had a massive hangnail and he just chopped off the arm and so that was a part of the problem and then you have another major major issue for them in my opinion was the management they were, you know, most wrestling companies that have been really successful over time have had, like, one supreme commander at the top who's, like, owned it, booked, like, done everything top to bottom, run the place, like, run the management, whether it was Vince McMahon for years, you know, organizing everything, Cowboy Bill Watts, Eddie Graham, Fritz Von Eric, and countless others.
And so I think like that made sense as a business model. And I told Kevin, that's like the strong management WCW didn't have, I can provide.
So in terms of being a more organized booker than anybody they had. So yeah.
All right. So when are you going to do steroids so that you can be part of the like

because that really you know vince mcmahon doing steroids and showing up and like starting to get in the storylines like you know you're gonna have to right no that's not i mean uh no no that is definitely not something those are okay i disagree with your artistic vision on this one could you be a villain could you be like could you float out rumors like i'm gonna move this thing over to over to London?

That's amazing.

No, I would never want to be a villain on my own show, and I've never shown up on Dynamite or our pay-per-views. That, to me, would be more fun.
I don't want to do it on my own show. You got like 250 and ripped, and you just showed up and you were a villain? Well, first of all, without completely a very solid natural physique, I i think i've shown up on other wrestling shows and been a villain i'm happy to open what i call the forbidden door that is me and go to other wrestling shows and appear there and and kind of trash them and talk about how great aew is and how we're the number one cool wrestling company that's sick to call yourself the forbidden door i want to call myself that at some point trademarked it so you can't.
Damn it. Well, what about this? You could go the other way if you don't want to put on 250 pounds or whatever.
You could just slim down a little bit, put on a big pair of glasses. I know that you've got a sports analytics company.
How much can I slim down? I'm skinny. No, get super emaciated.
Then you could just be the nerd that's ruining wrestling and you could could bring analytics into the wrestling ring. Oh, that's pretty good.
And try to like go over the top with these sabermetrics and tell the fans that they're rooting for the wrong guys because they don't actually compare that well when you look at the numbers. That's why I like you so much because like you come – that's a great – that's actually a very good idea.
Because there was one guy I think in like backyard wrestling, he called himself like the progressive liberal but only wrestled in very conservative states, and he just wore Bernie Sanders shirts and yelled at everybody in the crowd about how they're backwards. That's what you should be doing, but with the analytics, and just make everybody hate you that way.
I think, honestly, I would watch that. That's pretty good.
It's not a bad idea, actually. So do that.
You've got to get in it. You've got to get in the mix.
Well, that's pretty... like I said, I've done stuff on other wrestling shows that kind of promote AEW and crossover, but that's kind of the line I don't want to cross because I feel like you kind of disappear up your own butt when you start writing that way.
So as a booker, one thing I know, and I've never had to book myself into the show, other than as a matchmaker. I'll make matches, but I do of it is off screen like they'll say tony khan just announced this huge title match for next week and you'll hear that every week so you're like suge knight back in the 90s telling people like oh don't sign with bad boy records you don't want your producer dancing in your video come out to death row that's you yeah without first with that yeah but like way way way less fel.
Good. Yes.
Okay, that's yeah. But you also might get to his weight if you do the steroid route like I said you should.
Wait, so how do you – this is the part that I guess try to appeal to a guy like myself who I loved at Isudera Wrestling. I still love the concept of wrestling.
I still will watch probably one to two pay-per-views a year, but I'm not hooked. And I know that that obviously has something to do with age and everything else, but it's also, it doesn't feel like there's stars, there's new age stars that were like new age stars back in the 90s.
And it feels like a lot of places places or a lot of wrestling now is trying to relive that era so how are you escaping from that era how are you finding the new guys uh that's such a great question and so first of all i'm going to and i'm going to talk extensively on it i have a question are you guys available september 15th and or september 22nd probably not sounds That sounds like it's football season. Football, no.

Wednesday.

There's no football.

What, are you going to watch a match?

It's a match-in?

A little match-in?

Yeah, a little match-in.

It's also waiver-wire day on fantasy football.

But we could do that.

You could do that at the back.

So, okay, we're doing AEW at the Prudential Center on Wednesday, September 15th,

and we're doing the first-ever wrestling show at Arthur Ashe Stadium here in New York City city on september 22nd on wednesday what if it rains well it's the they have the roof okay on arthur ash so you thought you thought of everything us open has never had these pre-coming it's a great venue arthur ash stadium and so uh i'd love to have both of you there and show you firsthand and now i i will extensively give you a long-winded answer to that great question it's uh i believe in the wrestling of the past the present and the future the top stars of the past like still have great value and can still come in and contribute in a meaningful way if you you know and and sting and jake the snake are still a huge part of our show just as an example and then you know top stars of the present like the best wrestlers in the world Chris Jericho Kenny Omega Jon Moxley and stars of the future like uh Jungle Boy uh who like gets a lot of a lot of hype and is the number one contender to the title right now and MJF I don't know if you guys are familiar with him but he's one of the top young wrestlers in the world at 24 Dr. Britt Baker our women's champion's champion, who's one of the best acts in wrestling, is legit dentist, legit doctor.
You guys would love her. She'd be a great person to come hang out because she's a huge football person, too.
She's a Penn State grad and went to dental school at Pitt. She's dope.
She's a Steelers fan, which I don't like. And we have this great roster of really young talent that Some of them became viral wrestling stars before AEW.

And they're being pushed in a meaningful way.

So it's not, like I said, the past, the present, and the future all in one.

And then trying to keep it into a fun, organized show that delivers good wrestling every single Wednesday.

So is AEW, is that like your main job?

If you were to say your full-time job is running AEW.

Or how much time do you split between that and handling Jaguar stuff?

Dude, like I work, all I do is work. I don't have, so I, I Jaguar and it's totally depends on the season.
Like, um, between on a Wednesday night during the AEW, absolutely. But, uh, I, I split my time in a pretty crazy way.
And I work a lot of like 20 hour days and do crazy stuff and like work a lot of like 90 plus. I mean, who am I kidding? Like a lot more than 90 hours, a lot of weeks between the three things.
And it just depends on where we're at in the season and where we're at in NFL season, where we're at with English football season. And of course, where AEW is.
So it changes day it changes day to day. Do you ever just wake up and you're like, this feels like a football day? I'm going to do football stuff today.
No, it's crazy, dude. Yeah, like, yeah.
But it's also hard to switch sometimes. Like, I get so – like, the draft, especially Saturday, because I'm like – I am a big person on Saturday in the NFL draft, I will tell you that, because I believe in the undrafted free agency and I that is the thing that is like my Christmas in the NFL is the last day of the draft I love signing undrafted free agents over half our secondary is our players that I signed as undrafted free agents I got I get on the phone I chase guys and you've got uh right now got you know I take a lot of pride in it Trey Herndon is is gonna in and compete at nickel for us, and he's a guy from Vanderbilt.
I called, and scouts had nothing on him, you know, at the time, and I got him for, like, a very small signing bonus, and he took a chance, and now he's an important player for us. Jared Wilson, who made plays for us in the AFC playoff and has been our starting free safety out of Michigan, is another guy who came out on a really small guarantee and signed uh james robinson out of illinois state cory grant yeah cory grant out of auburn who did really well against the patriots in the playoffs and then had a career-ending injury he's a great running back i have done a lot of players out of secondary and a lot of running backs mike hilton is a guy gus cut mike hilton mike hilton went on to be a very good player i got him for like five thousand Going to get back to Tony Khan in a second, but before we do.
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Right there. The Jags jersey.
That's great. I know.
I saw it. I love Blake.
Blake is great. Blake's one of the all-time leaders in NFL history.
There we go. Yards per carry.
Yep. Let's go.
Put some respect on his name. I have tons of – I love the boat.
Okay, I like that. Big boat guy.
You passed that test. Good friend.
He also – I mean, he technically won you guys an AFC championship game. Yeah.
Because the refs took that one. Miles Jack wasn't jack he was not are you gonna get fined for saying that miles jack wasn't down there's like i agree and he wasn't down we have signs all over town it's a fact miles jack wasn't down yep no he wasn't down um what's up with the pool we've we've swam in the pool it's great yeah we've done it used it for aw actually in the stadium stampede in the pay-per-view okay and we had urban meyer and and Charlie Strong in the stadium stampede this year.
Yeah, how'd that work with Urban Meyer doing the AEW stuff? Did you have to, like, coach him up? Yeah, I mean, yeah, and he's my friend. So we were at work, and then that's, like, sometimes the crossing over.
I was in his office, and we were looking at the roster, and we were getting ready to, he's packing up his briefcase, and I said, would you maybe do me a pretty big favor tomorrow? And he said, well, sure. What is it? And I told him what it is.
Would you appear in the stadium stampede? And, uh, you know, it'd be like you and Charlie, you're working in your office late on Sunday night and, uh, and, and Charlie's a huge wrestling fan. So he's going to get a huge kick out of this man.
And then two of the top wrestlers, Chris Jericho and MJF are going to brawl through your office while you're working and be like what the hell and we'll just improv a great scene and he was like yeah sure man and he came in and Urban's the best man and Urban and Charlie were happy to do it so it was a fun crossing over to the two things it's the second stadium stampede we've done and it was great I'm gonna be I'm gonna be respectful I have said some things about Urban Meyer I'm going to say them in front of you because I think that would be disrespectful. Urban's great, man.
Yeah, agree to disagree. But see, that's respect.
That's just respect. We have respect.
Why don't you like Urban? Well, I don't want to do this. Okay, no, I don't.
Apparently, I don't want to do this. I think Urban's I don't want to.
Maybe I don't. I love him.
I love him. I love him.
I'll just say, like, the cat said that he's not going to say it. I would not press it.
You know what?

I'm going to fucking say it.

Instead of pressing you, look, let me have one.

Can I take a parting shot and we'll walk away?

Which is this.

I don't know Tony.

And I think it's a good one because I know him really well now.

And I didn't know him at all.

And people get a reputation in life sometimes, and it's not really fair.

And he's changed my life, and he's really, like, an awesome person. He's changed my life in the six months i've known him or whatever it is five months and he uh the way he motivates people and i know you're not going to want to hear it if you don't like him but if you get to know him there is something about him and you wonder why has this guy been so successful he's one of the most successful coaches i think he's a fantastic coach he's a great but as a person there's something person, I'm just saying, if he came in here and you worked with him, you'd love him.
I don't think we would like him that much. Yeah, he'd probably have my back if anything bad happened.
He would. He would have your back on anything.
If he worked here, yeah. I'm saying if you worked with Urban, you would love him.
So does he actually think that he's in the military? No. No, he's great.
Because he puts up these signs.

I remember being at Ohio State.

He's got signs up that says, like, you are a United States soldier.

Dude, I spent three years working with God bless him.

He's a great man, and I love him.

I spent, like, three years working with Tom.

Like, it was way more like the military when Tom was in.

That's a good point.

What was that like?

Did you have to ask him if it was okay if he used the bathroom, or is that just players?

No, Tom is also a very misunderstood great person, and I really enjoyed him. He's been so successful, great coach, great man, but it was a lot more, like I said, that military theme was probably more prevalent with Tom than with Urban.
Okay, so I'm actually interested because he just started working there urban you have like a new relationship you're technically his boss how like how far into the relationship urban's boss okay my dad and urban have a great relationship i work with urban my dad's urban's boss all right so how does that work though like in terms of being a new head coach like as an owner are you like you see him come in and you're like 9 15 this morning interesting not at all no and i'm not known for being like the morning i wore i work these crazy hours but i worked through the night all night and so uh you know and urban's a more early morning guy in fact it's gone the other way where i pulled the all-nighter and it's coming in so it's uh he's great did you ever have the discussion with him when you were drafting trevor lawrence uh that a long-haired quarterback has never won a super bowl? Good question. No.
Why not? You're the analytics guy. You should have thought of that.
Are you biased? Are you a self-hating, long-haired guy? No, I'm honestly just somebody that understands the history of football, and so you look back throughout every quarterback that's won a Super Bowl, you notice trends. I'll put it this way.
I would never draft me to play quarterback for my team in the NFL. I can recognize.
I think I'm self-aware in that way. What if you just got a haircut to play quarterback in the NFL? Yeah, good.
Yeah. John United.
First overall. Haircut you can set your watch to.
Yeah, exactly. But, I mean, you can look at the analytics and be like, okay, the average hair length of every quarterback is usually somewhere between half an inch and one and a half inches.
And there's actually, like, something to the fact can get tackled by your hair too. It's easier to sack a quarterback with long hair.
I'm just curious if those conversations took place behind the scenes. No, no, they didn't.
What about, did you guys have any, was there ever a second where you're like, maybe we won't take Trevor Lawrence? That's a great question. I mean, you know, you just did the work Trent, our GM Trent went through.
You did it like every player, you know, without reputation go through. And Trent and Urban and everybody went through and went through all the quarterbacks and gave everybody a fair shake.
I'm going to say something nice about Urban Meyer. I thought it was an awesome move that he hired Trent Baalke because Jim Harbaugh hates Trent Baalke.
And that was just sticking it to him a little more. We know Trent had been with us for about a year before.
Okay. Then I straight strike that from the record.
He was the interim. He was the interim because he did.
He did want to work with him because they didn't know each other coming in and they built a great, very good GM. He's great.
Yes. He had been our interim GM and then, you know, they we were hiring at the same time, both jobs.
Trent's great too. Have you got a chance to talk to Tim Tebow yet? Yeah, of course.
What's he like? Great guy. What's he like? He's a really nice guy.
He could change your life. He's a motivator.
They both are. They really both are.
They're both really special people. Absolutely.
Have you gotten to see him play tight end yet? Yeah. How's he looking? He's good.
He caught a pass just yet, and he's really looking pretty lit. A lot of reps in training camp, I would say this.
For somebody coming in and playing the position after being off that long, you'd be shocked he's been out that long. Are you concerned that he's going to be too much of an alpha for Trevor Lawrence? So he's going to come in, I don't know if you saw the video clip, but on first day at training camp he's walking next to him pats him hard on the back grabs his hand shakes it pulls his hand over clearly like body language mentally physically alpha is trevor lawrence is that going to be an issue because you want your quarterback to be the guy well we have an alpha quarterback or trevor's the man oh gardner minshu oh good gardner's great too yeah yeah gardner's great guy it's having a lot of alpha energy i think is a good thing and uh you know trevor's the ultimate alpha and so we have a great room great bunch of you know really great bunch of people and uh tim in the tight end room is adding something i think so it'll be really interesting and uh but trevor's doing great we had you know our last full day of mini campamp was yesterday and trevor tore it up dude tore it up yeah yeah um let's talk some soccer real quick so i own swansea you own foam you guys have come down to you got relegated that sucked um how much did that suck because i you know i went through my own relegation woes a couple years ago um it's it's painful man I'm here for you yeah it's terrible I didn't know I've you know I was I we've been having fun and like making light of stuff but I can't make light of that it's the worst thing you know that's yeah it sucks yeah it sucks and I you know going through it it's really hard yeah what uh what about the Super League you guys I noticed that Fulham came out and said that uh no Super League for us you did release that statement after I released a statement saying no Super League for Swansea.
So you're a little late, but that's okay. Well, what you would, I think, you know, timing-wise, I think we were two of the early statements.
Probably, yeah. And I think it was a good thing to make a statement about early.
What do you make of that whole thing, though? Because it's, like, we haven't had someone, you're in a unique spot that you own co-own an american franchise and uh you know there's only a few people who do this and the other guys who have it were part of the super league so what did you make of the entire thing well there are other american owners i think and uh there are not all the american owners who are involved with it and uh you know it's these things happen in business i don't think uh it's the end of the world and it got worked out pretty well. And it's funny how it was the biggest story in sports for a couple days and it's completely dropped off the map now.
But, you know, it's in the past. It's water under the bridge, I think.
When are you guys moving the Jaguars to London? Come on. No, especially I don't know if you've seen the stuff we're doing in Jacksonville.
I don't know if you have. I have.
It's been one of those narratives that's existed for the last 10 years, and it gets brought up all the time. And I know that it's not true.
It was $100 million? How much money is being invested in Jacksonville? I have a lot of money. It's a shitload of money.
More money than I can count is being put in Jacksonville, so it's not true. But did those rumors, because they were persistent, they've been persistent, they've been around, at least since 2012, as far as I can count is being put in Jacksonville.
So it's not true. But did those rumors like, cause they were persistent.
They've been persistent. They've been around.
At least it's like 2012, as far as I can remember. Did they ever like get to anybody in the building or is it something that like you had to like clearly communicate to everyone? Hey, just so you know, we're not moving the team.
How often did you have to say that to people? I think, I mean, you get asked it on a weekly basis back in the day, but now this is the first time I've been asked in a long time, honestly, especially because of the headlines about all the great stuff we're doing in Jacksonville. I mean, Jacksonville's been a great home for us.
Like, you know, living there through the pandemic, it's been, you know, working out of the stadium and doing everything out of there, and it's been great. And, you know, being able to stay engaged with the Jaguars, but also it's been a great home for aew and like the first you know aew we started bringing fans back and doing live shows in august and safely like we've been doing shows since august outdoor we started at 25 percent in our you know 5 000 seat amphitheater so we would have crowds i think we started at 20 we would do like a thousand and upped it.
It was like 1250. The Jags then a couple weeks later when NFL started, the Jags and the Chiefs were the only teams in the NFL that had fans week one.
Yeah. And Jags went the whole season, no transmissions.
So doing these outdoor shows, it was great. Did either of you guys go to the national championship game or the Super Bowl? We went to the national championship game.
It was great, right? No, no, no. It was a year ago.
Oh, sorry. The last one before COVID.
You didn't go to either of the big COVID championship games? No. I was in both in Florida.
They were great. Both great live event experiences.
And so people have been putting on my philosophy early in the pandemic when our competitor was not doing any live shows with fans and went with virtual fans. I kind of went the other way.
And I had I pushed back a little bit on the idea of virtual fans because I wanted to get I knew it was possible to do shows. If we were outdoors in this amphitheater in Florida, we should be able to get like 25 percent like a drive in movie theater.
That's awesome. And I was like, let's bring it back.
And we were the first ones to do it this whole time we've had fans in the and we were doing pay-per-views with like all through the pandemic for over a year with like 1250 people and it's like yeah it's not the full 5000 but it's like 25 it still resembles or you know what i mean it's a wrestling show you get the environment of having fans of the same like dynamic and like it was hard watching you know you other people were watching you know people up on a Jumbotron in little boxes. And it's not the same.
And the crowd noise being piped in is not the same. But there's nothing like the packed houses.
And we're going back to that here in July. We're doing this tour.
We've got Road Rager in Miami. We've got two weeks of Fighter Fest in Austin and Dallas.
And then Fight for the Fallen, which is this show we always give money back to charity and do a different charity every year, and that's in Charlotte. And it's like our tour, back full arenas.
I've been in Jacksonville for over a year, and the fans in Jacksonville, it turned into an old-school, 70s, 80s wrestling territory. That's sick.
If you had to flash forward 10 years from now, what would be a success for aew what would be like hey we did this uh it would be that we keep you know i think maintaining first of all lasting and keeping a show going and then you know debuting another show this year like if both shows are really strong if dynamite and rampage are both really strong shows 10 years from now even stronger than now, I would be so proud. Are you worried, though, a little bit that the best pay-per-view names have already been taken? I have the best pay-per-view by me.
I have the best pay-per-view because I don't do 76 pay-per-views. So I have four big pay-per-views instead of 29.
So there's quarterly, like the big four. Yeah, right.
So we have Memorial Day weekend. We do Double okay I like it it's one of Vegas, MGM brands, sold it out fastest sellout in Vegas wrestling history Double or Nothing, Vegas themed we just had to do it in Jacksonville but we still had the big poker chips and stuff and it was first wrestling pay-per-view packed house since the light at the end of the tunnel.
Yeah. And it was so sick.
We just had it Memorial Day weekend. And then every, you'll appreciate this, dude.
Every Labor Day weekend, we do a show in Hoffman Estates around Schaumburg at what the Now Arena used to be the Sears Center. Yeah, where the Sky used to play.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yep.
We do that. And that's.
Oh, actually, no, that's where the Bulls play, the G League Bulls. The G League Bulls play there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, yes, yes.
Yes, that is where they play. Yeah.
And there's other stuff out there, too. But anyway, it used to be called the Sears Center.
Now it's called, I think, the Now Arena. And so we're doing a fan fest and a pay-per-view there.
It's called All Out. All Out.
Okay. All Out.
I'm going double or nothing, one, All Out, two, just right now. They kind of sound like No Fear shirts from back in the 90s.
I like that. Fear tastes like chicken.
Well, I think then you're going to like the next one, which is then in November. This one I'm doing on a Saturday, why in November? I'm not going to go up against Sunday Night Football.

I'm not crazy.

Against my own product.

Smart, smart.

Head-to-head with my own product.

Well, the Jaguars are probably flexed out of that.

Well, I think we'll be doing so.

I think, you know, we could be.

I'm kidding.

We are jagging off.

We love the Jaguars.

Yes, we do.

But we also miss dearly the Thursday night games against the Titans.

Well, we'll see.

You know, hey, there could be some big games against the Titans this year.

Yeah.

Yeah, you were saying.

The Thursday thing was a great tradition, though.

It's been a great tradition. But, yeah, so back to what we were saying before I got started.
So Full Gear is what we do in November. Full Gear.
Fucking, it's great. You got the big, if you saw the set, it's so cool.
The Full Gear set is dope. And then we come back.
It's like every four years is a leap day. We did the first one on a leap day, so you can't say leap day.
But give or take, like the end of February or the first weekend in March, do Revolution. Okay.
Revolution's fire. Okay.
Revolution's a dope show. And so we got Revolution, Double or Nothing, All Out, and full, yeah alright, that's okay I was just thinking like Wrestlemania the name Wrestlemania you can't really beat that, but those are good I'm going to give you credit, those are good I had one other soccer question Double or Nothing, last year and this year my opinion was a better show the pandemic version unbiased opinion as objective opinion and I like this year's my opinion was a better show.
The pandemic version. Unbiased opinion.
You know what? As objective opinion, I think it was, and I like this year's WrestleMania a lot better than last year's because they had some fans this year, and everyone there worked their ass off both years. But this year, both, I think, good shows.
They did a two-night show, and it was a good show. I thought Double or Nothing this year was outstanding, and it was the best wrestling show of the year so far.
And last year, Double or Nothing in the pandemic, it kicked the shit out of WrestleMania last year. The pandemic version last year, not even close.
Double or Nothing, much better show. Yeah, it was weird watching with no fans.
All right, so one last soccer question. You obviously do analytics for football.
Is there analytics for soccer? And what does it look like? Of course, yeah. But what is it like? Kick it more into the goal? Kick it more times? As a Swansea owner, I'm sure you know this thing.
Well, yeah, I know. It's more of a trick question.
Do you know? Oh, yes. It's a huge community, the soccer analytics community, the European football analytics community.
So there's a company's, Opta is a big company in the data tracking space. There's tons of information they provide.

And you can learn about this and create VORP metrics like in baseball.

What's the new age strategy?

Like, say, the analogy to teams not running the ball as much and throwing on first down or analogy to teams saying OBP means more than batting average in baseball. What's what's the thing in soccer that you can point to and like oh this is what they're doing different and it's it's kind of work i mean there's a lot of i think people do a lot of work on set pieces now and in addition to a lot of work on set pieces i think uh there's a lot of stylistic analytics but i think it's a lot of it's just player evaluation like people are using analytics for player evaluation and scouting and and it's big.
Is it that short corner on the ground that everyone's hitting right now? Is that a result of the analytics? I mean, there's some because I think people have plays and trying to get people from there, getting people up into the box or trying to create a different angle. But there's some reasons why people do that, and sometimes that can be like checking out of a play.
What about having a guy on the team that bites people? I feel like that's hot in soccer. That's not good.
Always hot. That is not good.
I feel like that's – hopefully – it happens every once in a while, but hopefully not. It does happen.
Isn't that weird to say, though? It's a pretty common occurrence in soccer that somebody will bite somebody. I don't think it's a common occurrence.
What's happened like – there's like four or five notable times in the last couple years. Well, Suarez, I'm thinking it was at least eight years ago.
There was one yesterday. Yeah.
Yeah. So it's like you're scratching zero days.
Yeah, right. It's a bite.
I got one other fan safety question. You're talking about the pandemic stuff, but in terms of fan safety, did you guys take any measures to put a fence around the Jaguar statue after that kid got his head stuck in it? No, but you know what's funny is I go by that statue going into work every day, and I never once in my life, if I ever thought, and the thousands of times I've walked by that, never did I think put your head in there.
I don't know why anybody would. It's the funniest picture.
I love it so, so much. How'd they get that kid out? Did they call the fire department? I don't know.
I think he's dead. No, no, he's not dead.
He's fine. He's fine.
He's fine. He's fine.
He can't make it. Yeah, no, that picture is.
I think they might have. I went and studied it when we were there.
I think they shaved the teeth a little bit so that it wouldn't happen anymore. Does that jaguar have a name? I've never named it.
I think it does. Touchdown, touchdown.
Touchdown, Jaguar. What's the name of the mascot again? Jackson DeVille.
Jackson DeVille, that's right. Last year, the stadium stampede Jackson DeVille ate a Judas effect from Chris Jericho.
Okay. Jackson DeVille, I think, is the best mascot.
If you have to have a mascot, which I don't think that NFL teams should have a nickname or a mascot, it's kind of candy-ass. But if you have to have one, I think Jackson DeVille is the way to go.
That's great. I appreciate it.
It's kind of candy-ass. Have you thought about renaming your team the Jacksonville football team? No, because that's your football team's name.
Yeah, it is. It's true.
Yeah, the Jaguars are cool. Yeah, Jaguars is dope.
I think it's great. It's a great time to be a Jags fan.
Yeah. It actually is a great time to be a Jags fan.
Buy in now. Well, Tony, this has been awesome.
We appreciate it. Thanks, man.
I'm going to try to start watching more wrestling. Again, I'm the guy you're probably trying to capture, the guy who loves the concept of wrestling.
It is still real to me. And then, you know, just trying to get back into it, find my way back into it.
That's exactly what were exactly the exactly the kind of person we're trying to capture i would love it if you'd please watch more wrestling okay and then arthur ash you you promise there's a roof there's a roof okay well i'll look into that that's the places you got the chicken tenders you can dip into the coke it's where george costanza maybe i'll come maybe i'll come yeah out by la guardia yeah you could pull bobby valentine once saw a ufo out there no joke just don't pull a costanza and like get caught on tv or do yeah that would actually be great for my brand um all right well tony this has been awesome man we really appreciate everyone check out aw uh don't have to tell people to watch nfl because they all do and then uh fulham coming back up swansea and fulham let's make a deal right right now. We'll both be up next year.
Let's get the auto-promotion spot. Yes.
Hopefully we don't end up in the playoff. What happened with Swansea, yeah, that was bad.
Yeah, you know, they had a great season, and they're going to be one of the tough teams for us to play this year. And looking into it, that playoff is know yeah i've the three seasons uh that i've been with the team the three seasons that i've uh been the director of football and run the player acquisitions and transfers um we've actually been in the playoff every year that i've done it and we've won it two out of the three times wow so uh if we do go uh the playoff is there to be won but i hopefully we'll get the auto-promotion and we'll work really hard to do it.
Yeah, love it. Cool.
All right, thanks, Tony. Thank you.
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And now for something completely different. Okay, we now welcome on very special guest.
It is the greatest baseball player of all time. Over a 10-game period, right? Is that not true? I guess it's true, yeah.
Yeah, it's Patrick Wisdom from the Chicago Cubs. I love him.
He is here in studio. They're playing the Mets.
So we're going to probably run this later on next week. Let's start there.
I saw you in the hallway, and I mentioned it to you, but you guys played against Jacob deGrom last night. Just how much does that suck? Like, actually put it into perspective for the regular fan how different it is going up against deGrom versus everyone else.
Yeah, it was a major suck. He shoved it last night.
It's like going into a test knowing you're going to fail. There's nothing you can do.
He's just going to overpower you and you're going to walk back to the dugout saying, I don't know what I'm doing out here. Just answer C every time and maybe one out of every four times it'll be right.
You've got to sit on one pitch. A guy like that, is there just one pitch that you're waiting for? You're like, maybe I'll get a slider that doesn't break? Yeah, or it's maybe the 100-mile-an-hour fastball that you try to hit.
But, I mean, the first pitch I barely even saw. Like, I hit the glove.
I'm like, oh. Really? Yeah.
Like, you don't even because it's that fast and that much movement and everything? It explodes out of his hand. Like, it gains speed as it gets to the glove.
Jesus. It was something I've never seen before, obviously.
Wow. It sounds terrifying, obviously.
Yes. I guess the scouting reporters just hope he has to leave with some kind of cramp or something, even though that's the craziest part is how good he's been, and he's also been injured every other day.
Right. So for people who don't know your story, I obviously know it because I watch the Cubs, and I'm a Cubs fan.
But you were a first-round draft pick for the Cardinals in 2012,

basically fighting your way through the minors,

never really got your big break.

Then you come up.

The Cubs have been injured this year.

You come up this year, and you've lit the world on fire.

So you hit nine home runs in ten games.

Is that right?

You had nine home runs in ten games.

Been hitting everything. We're in day, I don't know, like 20 or something of this.
Have you been able to, like, settle down and be like, holy shit, like, I'm here and I'm doing this? A little bit, yeah. Sometimes I catch myself thinking that out in the field, honestly.
It's probably not a good place to do it, but, you it all in. I mean, it's pretty special, honestly.
Something I didn't really dream of and just kind of happened. Now that you're on the Cubs, you can admit you always hated St.
Louis, right? I might get some flack from the St. Louis fans, but they treated me well there, too.
No, do it. You can admit it.
It's okay. No one in St.
Louis listened to this show. We banned the entire city several years ago.
Yes. Yeah, I mean, Wrigley's sick.
The fans there are really cool. Way better than the Cardinals fans, yeah.
Agreed. I would say, yeah, it's a lot louder.
Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, you got the beer cup snake, too. I mean, you got the bleachers.
It's tough to compete with that. They know when to applaud, too, when to cheer in St.
Louis. Sometimes they're all over the place.
They'll clap for some stuff that doesn't really deserve applause. Yeah.
Yeah, fair point. Yeah.
You said it, not me. I'm curious to know where you stand because we have to talk spider tack.
Actually, I've got some spider tack right here. Oh, look at that.
Do you like what you see? Don't touch it. Don't touch it, some of this then you could get in trouble if you like shake you know kyle hendrick's hand or something yeah it's actually got like tree nuts in it so if somebody's allergic to sesame seeds or whatever it can kill them oh that's something allergy yeah nut allergy bad nut allergy are you do you fall on the on the side of like the pitchers are using uh certain substances for control and to get a better grip and as as a hitter, that's actually beneficial to you.
Are you like, have you noticed over the course of the last few years, like there's been a difference in how pitches are moving out of certain guys' hands? Yeah. I mean, I'm all for the control aspect.
You know, no one wants to get hit with a fastball or anything like that. And then, but I think if you're using it to like manipulate the ball, and I mean, you've seen some sliders that look like a wiffle ball.
It's like trying to hit a wiffle ball in the backyard. You're good luck, you know? So I'm, I'm all for it if it's going to be for control and you know, trying to throw strikes.
I'm all for it because as an infielder trying to throw a ball with no grip, that sucks too. So I get that part of it.
You know get a ground ball and the ball is kind of slick, it's like throwing a cue ball to first base. It's not fun.
Which is what you – whenever you get a ground ball, that's what it feels like because the Cubs don't cheat. So that was a smart way of saying that because there's nothing on the ball.
So, like, your story is great. It's very baseball.

Like, you know, having your big break when you're 29,

is it weird in the clubhouse?

Like, how do you get treated?

Because you're not a rookie, but you also haven't had, like, you know,

this long career, but you're also producing really well.

Was there a moment where you felt comfortable, like, hey, I can bust balls?

Or has that not happened yet?

Oh, yeah, I think it happened day one when I came in and Rizzo busted my balls for being in the cage. For practicing? Yeah, well, I wasn't playing, so I was trying to just fit in my routine, and the guys were playing that day, and I'm just waiting to hit, and next thing I know, an hour goes by because everyone else has to hit, and then Rizzo's like, you're still in here? Just busting my balls for it yeah and breaks the ice right away and so from then on it's just been I feel like I'm one of the boys I love that yeah I love that do you have any superstitions we love weird baseball superstitions I think my favorite was that one uh postseason where everybody just showed up wearing those fight necklaces oh yeah yeah do you have any fight necklaces I did yeah those are collecting dust somewhere though I any fight necklaces? I did, yeah.
Those are collecting dust somewhere, though.

I don't know where.

Did they work?

Some games.

Yeah.

That's the thing.

If you hit a home run, it was definitely a fight necklaces.

For sure.

Yeah.

But do you have anything that you do in particular?

Yeah.

I mean, sure.

I got this one.

So if I'm doing good or if I'm on a good little spell, I don't wash my jock strap.

Okay.

Yeah.

Okay.

Just let it.

Dude's rock.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So wait, that means you haven't washed your jockstrap yet. Right? Right? Yeah, I mean.
Yeah. Like, do the math.
Yeah. You're on an all-time heater right now.
I think you've had the hottest start. I'll let the viewers take that for what it is.
Is it the hottest start to any career in baseball history? It's like 1941 I saw someone. You were one of the only guys to ever do this, where it's like nine home runs in ten games.
Yeah. I mean, yeah, that's awesome.
I don't even know what was going on, so I was just hitting the ball, hitting the ball. The ball looks bigger when you're on a hot streak, when you're in the zone.

Has the ball actually looked bigger to you?

Yeah, and some at-bats for sure.

But it's just more like you're comfortable up there.

You're not worried about getting beat.

You just know that something's going to happen.

What's the lamest newspaper headline that you've ever seen that's incorporated your last name poorly into it? Good question. Yeah, that is a good question.
Because I feel like if you played in the 40s or 50s, there would be some real stinkers. Yeah.
I mean, I think the one that gets used the most is like Daily Wisdom, you know? Yeah, Daily, that's good. That's just very repetitive.
Age before wisdom. Yeah.
Maybe. So the stat was eight home runs in ten games ties the record for most by any player in his first ten games with a team since 1900.
And then I love this quote from Ian Happ, who is a friend of ours. He says, the guy has seven pumps already, and he hasn't been here that long.
I just like calling home runs pumps. Pumps, baby.
That's great. Your first one on the Cubs, I don't remember, did they not give you, I mean, that wasn't your first career home run, but did they do any superstitious, like not high-five you? I love when that happens.
Yeah, I do. Did that happen in your first home run? No, I kind of wish it did, though.
Yeah. That would be kind of cool.
You got robbed. I did, yeah, in that sense.
That's the best, when everyone ignores you in the dugout, and it's very, very funny, and you're set to stand there like, fuck. Yeah, did you actually feel, like, I don't know, left out, like not one of the guys because they didn't punk you? I felt left out because, you know, all these was in a different locker room when i showed up oh really so yeah it was just me i was just by myself in this other locker room like barry bonds yeah i just felt kind of left out and then yeah i got thrown into the fire and hit a homer then everyone was my friend again yeah yeah like hey we need you back in this locker room yeah that's the fastest way to get get it done.
Have you ever thought about getting in in a late inning game when you guys are up 13, 14 runs and pitching? I'd love that. That's literally on my bucket list.
You can't do that, though, because that's Rizzo's thing. Like, he loves doing that.
I know. But if I beat him to the mound, maybe then I'll.
Yeah. Yeah, who's got better stuff? I mean, he has an inning in the big leagues.
I don't, so. I think he has Two.
Yeah. He struck out Freddie Freeman, you know, an MVP.
So, I don't have that on my stat line. And also, he's best friends with David Ross.
So, that kind of hurts you a little. Yeah, he's got an in there.
Yeah. What's in your arsenal? Like, what do you have? You got a slider? You got a knuckleball? Yeah, I got it all.
Okay. You know, as position players, we love to play catch, you know, before the games and stuff, and then it just turns into, like, a little bullpen session and see what we can throw, see what works, see what doesn't work.
Yeah. Was there ever a point in your career that you were, like, close to saying, I'm done, like, I'm going to quit? I never thought about quitting.
I thought maybe about pitching, like, hey, I know I have a good arm, like, let's see if I can do it on the mound. Oh, really? You think you could throw that hard? What's that hard? Like low 90s? Yeah, no, I've hit above 90 for sure.
Really? Yeah. Okay, so you should pitch.
You should do, I mean, Shohei Otani. Shohei, that's, yeah, he's on another level.
That would be pretty sick. But there wasn't ever, like, because it is, you know, baseball is, there's no sport like it in that if you get drafted first round, any other sport, you're playing, I mean, maybe hockey a little bit, but, like, you're playing right away almost.
You know what I mean? And baseball, it's a grind, and you're, you know, up and down and down and up. So there was never a point where you're like, man, like, is this going to ever break for me? Like, is this ever going to work out for ever gonna work out for me yeah i mean those thoughts happen they come through your head like dang like what am i what am i gonna get there what am i gonna get my chance um but at the end of the day i was still putting food on the table for my family and like it was a cool gig being at triple a is fun you get to go to cool cities you're with the boys in the clubhouse and on the road.
I mean, it's a ton of fun.

I also read that you did some kind of positive vibes thinking something.

You read a book and you're like, change your life?

Yeah, I mean, I guess like an aha moment.

But yeah, just like.

You just do positive vibes?

Tell us that.

Can you explain that to us?

We would love to get in on this.

No, it's just like perspective.

Just like how you see things and what you take from what you see. So how do you see things? No, I don't.
I honestly don't. I always see when I'm watching a game, I'm like, here comes the loss.
Yeah. So obviously I think that too.
I'm like, we're down. We're probably going to lose.
But if I can walk away from my at-bat or what I did with a positive thought, then it helps me tomorrow or the next day or I can go to sleep, you know? I'm not like dwelling on like, oh shit, I'm 0 for 10. All right, let me give you a scenario.
You strike out. The count is 1 and 2, okay? Pitch comes in, you foul tip it.
Third pitch comes in, you swing and you miss. You walk back to the dugout.
How are you spin zoning that? Are you like, well, at least I made contact on that one pitch? It would be like if the pitch was in the zone. Did I swing at a pitch I wanted to swing at? You swung at a strike.
Yeah. As opposed, yeah, okay.
Or I suppose like chasing a 50-footer that bounces before the plate or a pitch over my head, which I've done in the past. So then you walk back and you're like, gosh, you're so stupid.
What are you swinging at? You're saying the same things the fans are saying to you in your head. You're like, what are you swinging at? So positive vibes.
You have to find one thing that's positive about even the most negative interaction that you have. Yeah, just because, I mean, especially in this game, it's so negative.
You're going to fail 70% of the time, and then you're going to be good. If you fail 70% of the time, you're probably a Hall of Famer, which is crazy to think about.
Right. In any other sector of life, that just doesn't happen.
You're probably fired. Yeah.
So it's just being able to wrap your head around that perspective and just enjoy it. It's a game.
I'm going to try to start doing that. It's not like, you know.
I showered today. Yeah.
There you go. Positive thought.
There you go, yeah. What did you do with PFT? I showered my body.
Yeah. Not your hair? Not my hair.
All right, but that's okay. That's tomorrow.
You can't wash your hair every day. You can't wash your hair every day, and you know what? You can't win them all, so I can't dwell on that big cat.
I've got to look forward to the next opportunity to wash my hair. You just move on.
Yeah, you just put on a baseball cap and then you go to work. There you go.
I have one last question. You're not going to like this question, but you're a free agent after this year, right? If the Cubs take me off the roster, I'll be a free agent.
Got it. Okay, because I was going to say, what's it like knowing that Ricketts is totally going to cut all the costs and not sign any of Javi or Rizzo or Chris Bryant, so you probably are going to benefit from that.
I could benefit from that if that were the case, yeah. I mean, I hope they don't.
It would be cool to come back next year and play with all those guys. Is it fun playing with Javi at short? He's got so much swag.
Oh, my gosh. It's like I'm wishing some swag would come over to me.
But, yeah, it's incredible what he does. I mean, the play he made yesterday was really tight.
Were you in the dugout when that play against the Pirates happened, when he chased them all the way? Like, he lured them back to home plate? Yeah. What was that like in the dugout as he was just, like, making a clown of an entire franchise? I think we were all mind-blown, too.
What just happened? Because he's doing that, then he called the runner at home safe. Yeah.
And then he was like, oh, I've got to run to first. Ran to first, called himself safe, and then ran to second.
It was also one of those plays that you start questioning whether you know the rules. I was like, do I know the rules? What just happened here? Wait a second.
How is that possible? I didn't think you could run backwards to home. I thought he was automatically out.
Same. If you reverse course going from home to first, you're automatically out, but then it's like, no, he just found a way to do it.
At any point, the first baseman could have just been like, you know what? i'm tired of chasing i'm gonna walk back to first base yeah put on it that's all i had to do into the inning into the inning no run scored nothing right did he say anything to you after he got after he like rejoined the team was he like holy shit i can't believe they actually followed me to home plate pretty much yeah like what were they doing like what were they thinking yeah um but i think that was just a fiasco like no one knew what to do and like mind blew everybody yeah oh here's a quick headline we'll make uh before we go if you were asked to do the home run derby will you do it oh heck yeah okay so there we go okay perfect i love him says that he would do the home run derby yeah that's all we need that's just a headline we'll throw out there and if you get in you have to be christian yelich yeah well he's in it good response probably not like i know i know he's bad he's bad well he's not bad don't want to say that no i don't want motivation we have a so i have to eat big cat's ass and he has to eat my ass if christian yelich ever wins over my derby it's one of those things that you say just in the moment we've had him on a bunch be a scenario but he it'll ever be a scenario, but he's a very good guy. He is, yeah.
And it was like probably three years ago, and he was like, yeah, I got a home run swing. This was before he won his MVP.
I was like, no, you fucking don't. And then he's like, yeah, I can hit home runs.
And we're like, alright, well, if you ever win the home run derby, we'll eat each other's asses. And now we're like here.
Like your two buds? Yeah, yeah. We gotta figure out a way to weave them.
I didn't know if Christian was in on this. No, he's just sitting there.
He just tortures us. Every now and then he'll remind us.
But then he hurt his back the year before, so he had to pull out. And then last year, obviously, there wasn't a home run derby.
So, yeah, it's just a ticking time bomb for us. I think we dodged a bullet on that one.
It would be incredible to watch us. I feel like Big Cat think it's going to happen.
No, I'm still nervous. Dodged a bullet.
I'm still very nervous. I think that it's time has passed.
I'm not... To be totally honest with you, there was about a 30-day period where we had to plan out how we were going to eat each other's asses.
We're going to maybe actually shave a piece of skin off. Yeah, we're going to mix it in with chili or something like that.
Cannibalism. Yeah, but if you have to pick a way to do it, that's the only way that you can look yourself in the mirror.
I'd never be able to visit a dentist after that. Every problem that comes up, I just automatically think, well, that must be from Big Cat's shit.
Yeah, cannibal. I am still nervous because I do think that, you know how a player would be like, I still things left to prove i think that's all he has left yeah what if he knows he's like all right one or two years level yeah right give me in the derby yeah like i'm not even gonna play in the season i'm just gonna play in the derby major league baseball would probably do that to get ratings yeah oh yeah like knowing that that's what was on the line so um there was like a half second when you said that would compete.
I was about to say something really stupid, but I didn't because I've learned from the Christian Yelich debacle. Just going to root for you.
I hope you win it. Thank you.
I'm rooting for you. Also, do you respect 90 still? Respect 90? Yeah.
Miles an hour? No, running to first base. You always respect 90? Yeah.
Just want to make sure. I don't want to see you not respect 90.
No, you got to respect 90. At any point.
You got it. Okay.
Like if you hit one into the gap, but you think it's gone, and you maybe not run so hard out of the box, and not respecting 90, I'm going to be pissed. I mean, you can't lead the league in doubles stopping at first.
Right. There it is.
That's a great point. That's a great point.
Because if you still get thrown out of second, you still get a base hit. That's true.
Do you ever sprint to first base on a walk? I haven't done that, no. Do it.
Next one. Do it one time.
Do it on Sunday night baseball. Yeah, or no, tonight, if you walk against the Mets, which will even be better because this isn't going to come out until next week, so then we'll do a callback.
People will be like, why did he do that? Now this is out. Here's why.
That goes a long way with the old beat writers. It'll be great.
He plays the game the right way. Yes, that'll be great.
Alright, well this has been awesome, man. You're welcome back anytime.
Recurring guest. Thank you.
Keep hitting home runs. It's fucking sick.
What was the longest one you've hit? In your entire career? Oh, my entire career? Yeah. Like 460-something? I think they lie, by the way.
I think so, too. There are times when a guy will hit one into, like, out of the park or, like, if you hit one out of Wrigley and they're like, yeah, that was 467.
I'm like, no, it wasn't.

It was fucking 500.

Give him 500.

Yeah.

Why not?

Someone called Stanton and Judge hit him.

I'm like, okay, that didn't go 427.

That went like 527 feet.

Yeah, dude.

Don't sell him short.

We went to the All-Star game in Miami, and Judge hit a home run that hit the back wall

of the stadium super high up, and they're like, yeah, that was 480. That was never going to land.
It was literally never going to land. They also do this thing where if you hit it into the third deck, if you're in Toronto or something like that and lands up there, they can tell you exactly how far it would have gone when it hits a seat that's only 370 feet away or whatever.
I don't trust that match. Yeah, I don't trust StatCast either.
StatCast is made up. Yeah, I think...
They just guess. I think...
They're like, oh, he hit that hard 110 exit velocity. It kind of went straight up, so it's like 50 degrees.
Yeah, right. I swear to God.
I met the StatCast guy at Wrigley once, and I just sat there grilling him, and he had his two computers out, and I was like, you're making this's like no I swear to god we're not I'm like yeah you are I know you are and like I did he hit one and then I guessed it I was like pretty much right on yeah like so you're making it yeah you just throw numbers out there all right well Patrick thank you man appreciate it and uh good luck for us this season dude thank you guys this is is an honor. Yeah, thank you very much.
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Breaking Moose. Alex Caruso just got arrested.
Oh no. For what? For stealing people's money because his top shot is worth $5,000 apiece now.
Nope. The cat's looking it up, cheating.
Illegal Bosley possession. Nope.
What happened? He got arrested for marijuana possession at Texas A&M. Oh.
What does he... Throw away the key.
What is he doing at Texas A&M? Well, that's literally the only place on earth that you can still get arrested for marijuana. Also, like, Alex Caruso, NBA player, NBA stud, but I feel like the only place where he really probably gets that full stud treatment is Texas A&M.
Yeah, I just don't know. But if he gets that stud treatment at Texas A&M, he shouldn't get arrested.
Facts. Like, you're a big man on campus.
You're a big man on campus. That's a fact.
Oh, no. Caruso show i feel like there's more to this story too because

you really you really have to fuck up in 2021 to get busted for pot lebron better like come out against him hard there's kids on twitter he's got his movie to sell agree you want kids to be doing weed they should be drinking wine all right two ounces so you know that's a significant amount to work.

Yeah.

Oh, my God.

All right.

Wait, wait. so you know that's a significant amount of work yeah oh my god alright wait wait Caruso's moving weight I mean no but like if you're Alex Caruso like you don't just buy like an eighth you just buy two ounces because who cares you're Alex Caruso you have so much money right yeah but you probably should have someone else buy it for you yeah you fall guy.
Yeah, you should definitely have a fall guy. You're not that guy.
You're not that guy, pal. Also, you don't have to buy the weed guy anymore.
You live in California. Right.
Pretty abundant, I'm told. All of it doesn't really add up there.
And it was by Texas A&M University Police on campus. Of course.
It was probably the cadets. The cadets probably did a citizen's arrest on him and detained him and waited for law enforcement to come.
What a weird place. All right.
Let's do some Mike Greenberg's dumb rules real quick. So baseball, they're cracking down on the sticky stuff.
They're now doing mandatory checks. Players are making a mockery of it, which I personally love.
I know the counterargument will be, oh, no, don't take it out on the umpires. Fuck that, dude.
The MLB sucks. The MLB is so stupid.
It was very funny seeing Max Scherzer get searched three times. He got searched three times on the mound today.
So my understanding is that the managers can call for like two. Yeah.
You get like two free passes. I don't even know exactly what the rules are, but I do know that Girardi asked for a third one on Scherzer, and Scherzer undid his belt buckle, took his glove off, took his hat off, threw it at him, and then Girardi got tossed later.
But it's ridiculous. At some point, I feel like Trevor Bauer, when he gets searched, he's probably just gonna strip he's just probably gonna take off the shirt that actually basically just happened in the aids game um it was uh who was it someone just basically stripped sergio romo sergio romo essentially stripped in front of the um and i know there's gonna be people like well what should they do let him keep cheating uh yeah that's what mlb has always done that's what they did for the steroid era.
That's what they did for the greenie era. That's what they did for juicing the balls, which probably led to the pitchers being like, we have to even this somehow by doing the sticky stuff.
My whole point is you should fix it, but don't fix it in the middle of the season only after it becomes public because you feel like a fool for letting it go on and having it be an open secret for so long. That's why MLB is stupid.
I love how Rob Manfred was like, you know what, fans, we hear you loud and clear. You want baseball to be more like the TSA.
So we're going to have you take your shoes off, put your laptops in a tray. It's honestly like it's ridiculous.
Every time they do this, they're stopping the game for like seven minutes at a time. Yeah, pace of play.
It's just so stupid. So I got a couple ideas for how maybe we could even this out a little bit.
First is just if the manager asks you to ask the umpires to go out there and check the pitcher more than once in a game, the manager then has to go to bat if they don't find anything. I think you should just, if you get checked, it should be like, not TSA, but let's call it going into a stadium and getting checked going into a stadium.
If you get checked and you're able, so you get checked the first inning, if you're able to sneak something onto the mound in the second inning, it should play. If you can get a flask into the fucking game, you should get to drink out of that flask.
If you get a nip of pine tar in your pocket. That would be funny.
Yeah. Right.
Or he pulls off his pants and out of his jockstrap comes some spider tack. Here's what we got.
What about this? If they check you, you don't get caught. You are allowed to use whatever you want from that point forward.
You can't be checked for anything. Right.
Let's say the manager is allowed to request you to get checked twice then at that point you can flagrantly cheat for the rest of the game yeah you can just like have a bottle of airplane glue in your hand right and be doing that between pitches i'm in for and that's all fair so give you you get two times two requests for this and if it goes past that then you're fucking over your own team it's just i cannot that. And it's crazy that there are actually people out there who are like, I side with the MLB here.
For why? They fucking let everyone cheat for their history of the game. And just because they got exposed, they're going to swing the pendulum of justice so hard.
Like, you're making a drastic change in the middle of a season. I do think you should stop with the spider attack and all that shit.
But this is just so over-the-top ridiculous. So over-the-top ridiculous.
And it's so classic MLB where they're like, well, we fucked up. And now we didn't care that we fucked up.
We cared that we got caught. And now we're going to just make it so apparent that we're checking everyone, that the game gets slower, and all the pace of the play.
It's so stupid. It's so stupid.
Okay, I'm watching Sergio Roma right now take his belt off, pants all the way down to his knees. I mean, they could just hide anything they want under their ball sack.
Like prison. Are the umpires going to be like, hey, turn around, lift it up, give me a cough? Joe Westwell.
Joe Westwell. All right, FAQs.
Let's finish with FAQs, then Billy then Billy I do want to say just going back to our conversation about memes earlier he did come through ZipRecruiter we got over 3,000 people uh sending their resumes we went through a bunch but how I look at it is when I go through resumes and it's like you either put your resume with just words on it and memes was like oh I've been doing PMT memes for the last whatever whatever, 12 months on my own just doing it, that obviously says a lot more.

So if you are thinking of how to get in the door,

it's like, just do it.

Do it without anyone telling you what to do

because then...

You've got a body of work.

Then I look at it, I'm like,

I don't have to tell this person what to do

when he works here.

FAQs.

What's your favorite podcast at Barstool

that you are not affiliated with?

That's a good question.

I like... The sit-down, It's pretty good.
Nope. What? Well, it could be.
Oh, it's not here. Could be.
That might be a future one. Can I say KFC Radio, even though I was affiliated? No.
Okay. What the fuck? You gotta unplug the fridge.
All right. All right.
All right. I like Chiclets.
Chiclets is great. Chetman Chiclets is amazing.
Respect. Chiclets is the best.
like Token CEO Dave Portnoy show Always good for the drama I do listen to that one I don't listen to a lot of podcasts Unnecessary Roughness is good I'm a college football fan We're now just listing all of them. Oh, Son of a Boy Dad?

The new Sass and Roan joint?

Those are my guys?

Anus.

He was mad that you guys didn't credit him for Singy for the summer.

It would be funnier if we just didn't say Anus.

And obviously LCB.

The LCB boys.

Bleep out Anus because then they're like, I can't believe you didn't say that.

Sass was mad at you guys, though, for not crediting him.

For what?

Singy for the summer.

Oh.

I can't say Redline.

I'm affiliated.

He said that?

Apparently.

Dogwalk.

Thank you. Cass was mad at you guys, though, for not crediting him.
For what? Singy for the summer. Oh, I can't say red line.
I'm affiliated. He said that? Apparently.
Dog walk. Okay.
So, how many of the... CBT? How many of the...
Uncle Chad? I mean, the reality of the situation is we don't have that much time to listen to podcasts. They're all very good.
But they are good. We watch all the clips and we listen to them when we can.
How many of the friends of PMT are you guys truly close friends with? Big Cat said something about if he texted Blake Griffin about hanging out after the title, he'd be hit with a ha-ha reaction. Do the other Blakes fall into that? What about Jared, Chris Long, etc.? I would consider Chris Long to be a friend of ours.
Chris and Kyle are friends. Jared would hang out.
The other Blakes? Yeah, Blake Bortles. Blake Bortles is on a 24-hour text delay, but he definitely would hang out.
I feel like Blake Koepka is a perimeter friend. He's a friend.
No, I think he would hang out. Brooks would definitely hang out.
Brooks would absolutely hang out. But it's weird calling somebody an actual friend when we've only...
How many times have we met him face-to-face? Two? I think twice. Yeah.
But there's people if I hit him up and was like, hey, let's get dinner or something that he would... Brooks would definitely fall in that category.
Who else would fall in that category? Stu Finer. Stu Finer.
Absolutely. Going out there tomorrow for field day.
Yep. It's going to be incredible.
We're going to get him on the show. I don't know.
We'll make a list. Florio's family.
Yeah. Should we make a list? Say Prisco maybe over Florio.
Just because you can get into some shit with him. We don't need to make a list.
No, we can make a list. Make a list, Billy.
Danny Woodhead? Danny Woodhead for sure. Not a question.
I actually did see this a lot in response to the end of the show on Monday. Rachel Nichols.

Does he count?

Nah.

Mark Titus.

Wait, did you now Rosillo or Rachel Nichols?

No, Rachel Nichols is cool.

Rosillo, no?

Rosillo's a friend.

Are you picking a fight with Rosillo?

Rosillo's a friend of mine.

You're not that dude.

You're not that dude.

The guy.

You're not that guy or that dude.

You're neither one.

Like, if you versus Rosillo, you're not that guy. You're coming out Rosillo? No, I just...
Dude, he would... No offense, but Rosillo would snap you in half.
Who says... I'm just giving my opinion.
Why is everyone coming at me? I'm going to tell Rosillo you said that. Dude, I'm going to tell Rosillo that you said you could take him.
That's fine. I would smoke Rosillo one-on-one.
Oh! In what? Anything. Oh, my God.
Chess. Sure.

Probably, yeah. I hope your will's in order.

By the way, did you...

Someone tweeted me that?

He posted a picture. I wasn't even sure if there was a hoop

in it. It was just him shooting.
I was like, I think he might have just

posted that in a field. He had a sick elevation.

We did our wills.

I don't know why. I love you, Russell.
I don't know why.

I don't know why either. Also, I love you.

No, I love you. Hank, he was just clearing out his phone.
He made that very clear. He was like, here are a bunch of old photos I had to clear out and put on Instagram.
That's my favorite. Someone's like, clearing out my phone from all my summer vacation photos.
I just randomly thought of these pictures that I clearly was going back through to look at. I'm actually not going to say the will thing because that was a funny tweet, but it's also sad.
What? The one I sent you, Hank, we did a will two years ago on PMT where we all said what everyone gets. Yeah, no.
My will had Leroy and Rhea. Yeah.
Speaking of that, though, that's a good laugh. Someone was like, way to go, big cat.
Cold takes exposed. That is a good transition to this next one.
I did get a lot of responses and people reaching out after the end of the show on Monday and people being like, I went through something similar, and part of my take helped me get through that. So this FAQ is kind of...
So what do you use? ZBT? Just wanted to... No, I'm still figuring that out.
Oh, okay. Just wanted to say thanks to the whole pod, especially our special boy Hank, big fan of the show.
It's gotten me through some rough times. Love you guys.
Oh, and something for... for so that's more just like we do get a lot of those messages i appreciate them they're nice to see i thought it was crazy kind of blows my mind yeah i thought everyone stepped up like i all the responses i saw i thought everyone stepped up and was was appropriate and and respected it and it was nice it was good to see we can be adults every now and then yeah and sometimes i just don't think about you know we just do the show it's it's our job it's funny or whatever we have last but it's it's seeing people that reach out and are like oh you know this show helps me a lot it helps me get through stuff like it's cool to see uh let's do one more all right i'm not going to do this to billy then have you guys been back to canton to put flowers at larry's grave or to see if the tree signs are still there no fucking chance uh and awl definitely stole that shit as soon as the fans drove off i would be shocked if larry's body had not been desecrated at this point we should actually just say it because it's the perfect hey remember when everyone stepped up when hank like opened his heart well the reverse of it is when we buried larry and not 24 hours later some asshole tweeted us and we actually made a pact in this group that we're like we're not going to give him any shine he dug up Larry's grave and ripped the thing off and was like I wanted it for my house you fucking asshole I hope you got hit by a bus also jokes on you because that wasn't even Larry's body that was a random goldfish we found at the pet store and killed and buried there just so that you would take it.
We still have Larry's body here. It's actually Larry's body, and you got it.
But fuck you. It's got Jimmy Hoffa's DNA on it, so you could be implicated in a crime, my friend.
Yeah, that sucked. That was a very big moment of like, nah, we didn't do it right.
I didn't think it was too much to add it right. We did it right.
Yeah, we did it right. No, like the AWLs didn't do it.
I don't know. Maybe I'm naive.
I don't think it's too much to ask and be like, hey, don't dig up my pet's body. 24 hours.
I wanted one week. I wanted to just not know.
If you dug it up and never told us, we would have been happy. You know what I really wanted? Someone should go back there and put up a sign.
We'll send you a t-shirt if you do that want if you're in canton ohio find the tree i wanted other awls to be able to stop by and pay their respects right at least a little bit you ruined that guy there probably there's people that actually took road trips to canton ohio to visit poor larry's little fish body and they just arrived there and saw a giant hole in the ground fucking asshole i was really bummed me out i love the guy that brought that. Yeah, that was the best.
That kid's scarred for life. And the poor guy that brought his wife or whatever.
And she was just like, what's going on? Yeah, she's like, this sucks. It's Saturday afternoon.
All right, Billy. So we missed a couple things today.
First, my hot seat is wings. Wingstop is now thigh stop due to the national wing shortage.
There was a three-time price increase in wings, so it's actually been a better investment to invest in wings than it would be to invest in some cryptos right now. So we should have been buying wings.
My cool throne. Oh, we were.
Yeah, you used to eat them. No, but it's a store.
Got it. Buying and freezing wings.
So wait, what does this mean for Buffalo Wild Wings? I don't know. Buffalo Wild Thighs? Yeah, Wild Thighs.
That actually sounds like a better restaurant. Chicken thighs are actually cheaper than chicken wings now.
What about drumsticks? Drumsticks are technically chicken wings. Really? No, they're not.
They're legs. Those are legs.
Wings are the arms. Wings are the wings.
Wings, yeah. This is a wing, right? I don't know what it means for drumsticks.
And then that's the drumstick. But Rick Ross had a killer commercial.
My cool throne is Jameis Winston's friends because he's still employing them to train him. Yeah.
And there was a bunch of awesome videos today. They were.
That were hilarious. He's the workout king.
I feel like he's trolling us at this point. What are the numbers?

So what was happening was he had a buddy that was standing downfield

holding up hands.

How many fingers am I holding up?

And James proving to us that he has the eyesight of

a peregrine falcon at this point

was calling out those numbers left and right.

Not even squinting. I don't know if you saw his eyes.

Nothing's ever going to match the giant

scrotum workout video though. Where he just had that big swinging ball bag just going back and forth.
Also, people think Tom Brady was talking about the 49ers and Jimmy Garoppolo because people said that Tom Brady always wanted to move back to California and retire at his childhood team. That's right.
He was at that game with Chris Berman. Exactly.

Also, RG3 released a video, to Jake's point,

of him running apparently a 4.3740,

which was totally false,

which definitely means that it was also fake news, like what Jake was talking about.

That's weird.

I feel like we discussed that earlier, about RG3's 40 time on the Instagram video. All right.
Set the giant counter back to zero days for Billy. PFT talked about it.
Okay, okay, okay. He brought it up.
The sticky stuff, persecution in MLB,

is because there's been the longest, lowest batting average in the league.

It's been much lower than last year. Because they dead in the balls.

No, because remember that tweet?

Remember the tweet storm about the guy who was saying

that people were Stein-Steel and the Yankees were implicated?

They found a bunch of cameras?

Well, basically, they all stopped doing that, so the batting average. They dead in the balls.
The batting averages went down because of the cameras. That's my theory, and now they're cracking down.
Okay, but they also deadened the balls. Like, the MLB is so stupid.
They juiced the balls so there'd be more home runs. Then when everyone was like, the balls are juiced, they deadened, and the balls were juiced.
Then the pitchers were like, well, fuck, we got to figure out something to stop that. So we're going to put a bunch of sticky shit on our hands.
Then they dead in the balls. And then the and then they're like the batters were like, well, now it's not fair.
They have the sticky stuff. See how the MLB just keeps putting themselves in a circle.
Now it actually is so stupid. It'd be the best time for a batter to just straight up cork your bat.
Let everyone cork bats. Yeah.
Juice the balls. Juice the Juice the balls.
Juice the players. Spider attack for everyone.
Mandatory steroids. Let's just see how fast guys can throw and how far home runs can go.
Weave uniforms out of fighting necklaces. Give them all the superpowers.
God damn it. I hate them.
Sorry, Billy. That wasn't about you.
I also dug Larry's grave. That's a lie.
No, I'm on video digging Larry's grave. Oh, you dug the whole story.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You whole story.
You didn't dig him up. You didn't desecrate.
No, I didn't desecrate. I dug the grave.
I was the undertaker. I didn't dig deep enough.
I like the responsibilities taken though, Big Cat. I like the responsibilities, but I'm going to back you up.
I remember, because I think I also maybe dug a little bit of it. That tree was a very old tree, and there was a lot of roots.
True.

A lot of roots.

Chipmunks carry more ticks than deer.

Chipmunks carry more ticks.

58.

Really?

8.

Yeah, big Lyme disease.

They're way cuter, though.

Chipmunks are cute.

Like the cutest thing ever.

99.

18.

It's like baby ducks.

I feel like someone's going to get in here.

69.

Is that something?

8.

Always 8.

19.

Is that a first timer?

19 is moved to the four-time category.

Whoa.

Joining 17, 38, and 80.

She's a thirsty little bitch that night.

Whoa.

All right.

Love you guys. Love you guys.
Thank you. Anyway, today is my day to find you shying away.
I'm coming for your love over here. Take on me.
Take on me. Take me on.
Take on me. I'll be gone And I'll tell you So needless to say I'm all descended But I'll be stumbling away Stumbling, learning, my life is okay Say after me It's the bed until you save the time Thank you.
Take on me I'll be gone

In a day of dream