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Speaker 5 On today's part of my take, we have co-owner of the Jacksonville Jaguars and founder of AEW Wrestling.

Speaker 6 It is Tony Khan.

Speaker 5 Awesome electric interview. We also have Cubs, Phenom, Patrick Wisdom.

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Today is Wednesday, June 23rd. Suns in for that ending ruled.

Speaker 6 That was awesome. Tonight is one of those nights where it's like, this is, hey, big cat, this is why we sports.

Speaker 5 This is why we sports. This is why we stay up.
If you missed it,

Speaker 5 it's after midnight right now. It is after midnight.
Not a brag, but if you missed it, it was an all-time ending because you had everything.

Speaker 5 You had playoff P showing up with, he actually made a nice layup a couple plays before this, but showing up with the back-to-back free throw misses.

Speaker 5 You had 16 replays that made the last two minutes of the game go, what, like an hour, I think. And then you had one of the coolest plays I've ever seen for a game winner.

Speaker 5 Jay Crowder with an absolutely perfect pass. Devin Booker with a nice screen.
Two, DeAndre Ayton, who basically caught it in the rim and then dunked it home. That's the play that you.

Speaker 6 Shout out to all of us that have ever watched the end of a basketball game that are like, they should just throw it up to the tallest guy and have him dunk it.

Speaker 5 It is the play.

Speaker 5 You say it all the time. You're like, wait, why don't they just do this play for the inbound?

Speaker 5 It's impossible to do the suns not only pulled it off they pulled it off for a game winner with 0.7 seconds left deandre ayten he's he's a fucking beast man he's like deandre ayden showing up to the whole trey young luka doncichic that draft ruled discussion being like i rule too i'm awesome on defense and offense dendre aiden i don't think has ever missed a shot in the nba he just dunks the ball all the time i think if you look back on these playoffs i don't know if it's just a hot streak that he's been on but he's got to be shooting like 90 from the the field.

Speaker 6 It's insane.

Speaker 6 He's just yamming it. He's just yamming on fool's levels.

Speaker 5 70% in his last 10 games. That's pretty good.

Speaker 6 That's pretty good, considering I was obviously like exaggerating the 90%. 70% is insane.
He's just jamming on everybody. Playoff PP came back big time from the charity stripe.

Speaker 6 And although it's sad to watch, it's always nice when our stereotypes of certain players end up being true. It makes you feel smart.

Speaker 5 I feel bad for Playoff P in this circumstance just because he is

Speaker 5 like the Clippers right now. You know, Terrence man, obviously, on the Friday night game.
What? What? He missed two free throws.

Speaker 5 You know, I'm saying he's carrying the Clippers, and he's fucking gassed. There's no, there's no what?

Speaker 5 Free throws at the end of the game. I know, but I'm saying that.

Speaker 6 He's called free throws for a reason.

Speaker 5 I'm trying to put it into perspective that he has not been playoff P this entire playoffs. He should, he was playoff P in that moment.
He has not been playoff P this entire playoffs.

Speaker 5 Like, he has had good moments. He is with Kawhi going out, winning that Utah series.

Speaker 6 That was bad that was bad all those tough all the replay reviews got to be a little bit much but fortunately we had mark jackson and jeff van gundy just doing like freestyle open mic like scat poetry just letting all their thoughts hang out when jeff van gundy was like i i understand that this is the correct call but they shouldn't call it it's like no that's exactly what the ball was out of bounds in devin booker right change the rule but if you're gonna play by these rules that's the it went out of off his hand last time i think his theory was like you can't like you if you look at the play, it was Pat Beverly who caused the ball to go out of bounds, but then that takes you back, like, you can, you can go down a very slippery slope on that one when you're like, well, what actually caused things to happen?

Speaker 6 Now you're judging intents of basketball. It's just like, no, you just, you, you call it based on who it last touched while it was in bounds.

Speaker 5 It's pretty simple.

Speaker 5 I think Mark Jackson and Jeff Van Gundy, I think the reason why they hate replays is that they know that if they have to talk like that without the game action going on, it's just the meter for America hating them goes up and up and up.

Speaker 6 Oh, no, I think they love it. I think they see it.

Speaker 5 Oh, no, Jeff Van Gundy hates it.

Speaker 6 Mark Jackson loves having

Speaker 6 30 seconds of dead air to kill for Mark Jackson. He looks at that like we look at a giant big plate of Buffalo wins.
He's like, let's go. Now is Mark Jackson's time to shine.

Speaker 6 America is going to hear from MJ on this one.

Speaker 5 Jeff Van Gundy hates it.

Speaker 6 Probably not.

Speaker 5 He openly hates it.

Speaker 6 Mark Jackson. All the time.
Mark Jackson loves having that open mic going. I have the stats.

Speaker 5 The final two minutes took 33 minutes

Speaker 5 to complete.

Speaker 5 And you know what?

Speaker 5 It is one of those

Speaker 5 old man Yells a Cloud things to be like, man, all these replays, but it really is terrible. It really does ruin the flow of the game.

Speaker 5 We also had Demarcus Cousins pushing Devin Booker, which just no one talked about.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so that should have been called, that should have been like a flagrant foul, right?

Speaker 5 I have no idea.

Speaker 6 As far as I know, and this is when we get to the whole time-space thing, but

Speaker 6 the buzzer had sounded for the end of the game, but they were going back to review the end of the game to see if there was any time left on the clock so we were in a weird like limbo stage where the game was over but it hadn't been restarted yet when the foul occurred right so like then does that become a foul because the game technically wasn't over even though it was over i'm not sure i don't know the rules of that uh campaign should be shouted out because it was the campaign legacy game uh he basically kept the suns in this what did he end up with i think he ended up 28 26 29 29 what a fucking beast i always knew it i always knew it and then also big shout out to devin booker anytime you get a blood game going on yeah you have to win a blood game you can't let the nose be broken for nothing plugged up nose it was great how like there was a woman in the front row wearing a steve nash with a bloody nose t-shirt

Speaker 5 it's just sons sons in force sons are rock baby yeah sons are fucking rocking that does feel like a backbreaker for the clippers unless kawaii comes back i don't know how you recover from that but although they've been down 2-0 in every single series so I might be, this might be where the Clippers exactly want them.

Speaker 6 Oh, hey, you know what, Big Cat? A series doesn't start until the home team loses a game.

Speaker 5 That's true. So here we go.

Speaker 5 This might be exactly what the Clippers needed to

Speaker 5 feel like they're pushing. And I think is game three,

Speaker 5 Thursday?

Speaker 5 They're playing these series fast now.

Speaker 5 We're whipping through it.

Speaker 5 All right. So,

Speaker 5 yeah, it is. Oh,

Speaker 5 I was going to, while we were watching this game, I was thinking about how to start the show.

Speaker 5 Obviously, that happened, so DeAndre Ayton started the show, but the alternate start of the show was Detroit Pistons are back because they won the lottery. They get Cade Cunningham.

Speaker 5 That's kind of cool for them.

Speaker 6 That's it. That's about it.
That's all I got.

Speaker 5 Ben Wallace.

Speaker 6 Ben Wallace looked weird without a fro. Yeah, it was kind of strange.
But once I saw Ben Wallace on there, I was like, okay, I think that might bring some good magic to Detroit.

Speaker 6 Just because Ben Wallace, he's just awesome. He's just an awesome dude.

Speaker 5 Country strong. Big time.
Yeah, campaign is getting on Scott Van Pelch Sports Center right now, so at least he's getting shine there.

Speaker 5 He's just confident. Like, let him cook.
Just let him fucking go for it.

Speaker 5 All right, so.

Speaker 6 It is election day today.

Speaker 5 It is election day. Appropriate for campaign.

Speaker 6 Who won for campaign to

Speaker 6 not some guy, not Yang. The people.

Speaker 5 Yeah. The people won?

Speaker 6 Democracy won today, big cat. In straight sets.

Speaker 5 Damn.

Speaker 5 I got asked to vote like four times going to the subway. I don't even know.
I just know I just got a shitload of emails.

Speaker 6 I was going to vote. I was actually on my way out of the office to vote, and then Roan was on his way out of the office to vote, too.
And I was like, who are you voting for?

Speaker 6 He told me, I was like, oh, that's the opposite of who I'm voting for. So we decided to just stay here and not vote.

Speaker 5 Nice. Cancel each other.
Castle each other out. It's perfect.

Speaker 5 Okay, so we, what else? Oh, the hockey. Canadians are just good.
I don't understand it.

Speaker 5 I think just, you know, price just keeps standing on his head.

Speaker 5 It is crazy, though, because everyone, the foregone conclusion, we talked to our chiclets guys who are experts, is that the Knights would have killed them.

Speaker 5 Now the Canadians are up 3-2 going home to try to get to the Stanley Cup final, which would be also fitting for a Canadian team to win the Stanley Cup in a year where there can't be fans in Canada only.

Speaker 6 Are there going to be zero fans? No, they're probably going to do the thing with maybe they'll bring back some of the first responders that they had up in Toronto. They've had a few thousand.

Speaker 6 Not those first responders, probably. Those are, it turns out they were bad luck, but some of their own.
How do you say wagon in French? I think it's just wagon.

Speaker 6 Le Wagon. Les Waguaton.
Le Rouge Rider Wagon.

Speaker 6 Yeah, they're amazing. And Fleury, man, this might be, we might have been watching the end of Fleury's career in real time over the last week.

Speaker 6 Because I don't know what happened. How was it?

Speaker 6 Voitux car.

Speaker 5 Let's go with Les Wagaton.

Speaker 6 Le Waguaton.

Speaker 5 Les Wagaton.

Speaker 6 But yeah, Fleury, I think that might be the end of the road for him.

Speaker 5 They tried to give him this start, and they thought that he could bounce back, but i guess he got lit up again yep and uh for the islanders good news for you you lost eight nothing on monday night but help is on the way hank pft and i are going to be in the collie on wednesday night so we were i don't know what i don't we could see the greatest game of all time we could see people ripping their chairs out of their seats you know the seats out carrying them out crying.

Speaker 5 It's the whole gamut of emotions could happen on Wednesday night.

Speaker 6 My understanding is that since it's the last game that could be played at the Coliseum, if they end up losing all the concessions that are there at the end of the game, they're free, right?

Speaker 5 They are free. They no longer.

Speaker 6 So, all the hot dogs, the entire dessert card, all the beers that they have left over, all the popcorn, you name it. I feel like we can just walk out with those.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Take down all the banners. Listen, it would be.
Yeah, yeah, take the banners.

Speaker 6 But yeah, it'll be fun to be there. Hopefully, they won't lose 8-0.

Speaker 5 Yes, I agree.

Speaker 5 That'd be nice. I agree with that.
I hope they do not lose 8-0.

Speaker 6 It's almost impossible for him to lose 8-0. Actually,

Speaker 6 I would rather it be 9-0.

Speaker 5 More seats for us because people would probably leave early. Yeah, I was going to say,

Speaker 5 if it's 8-0, we're going to beat the traffic. True.
So, yeah, 8-0, I'd be cool with. Either way.
Like,

Speaker 5 a 4-1 loss with an empty net goal would suck. Where it's like, oh, maybe they can come back.
Yeah. That probably is the prediction.
That's exactly what's going to happen. All right.

Speaker 5 Shutting down the old barn. Yep, shutting down the old barn.
All right, the other thing.

Speaker 5 Carl Nassett made big news. First active NFL player to come out of the closet.

Speaker 5 Pretty big news. Actually, huge news.
Yeah. I know there's a lot of people like, this isn't news.
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 6 No, it was massive news, but also shout out to Carl for how almost understated and chill he was.

Speaker 6 His message was like, hey, what's up, guys? It's me, Carl. Just real quick, I want to say I'm gay.
And that was like pretty much it. It's like how John Wayne would have come out of the closet.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Yeah, it was, I mean, it was, it's a big moment.

Speaker 5 I know, uh, like, not having just the fact that people will, uh, and I thought we're at a point now where, like, I didn't see a lot of negative stuff. I really didn't.

Speaker 5 No, there was a really good idea. I really thought a lot of people were like, that's awesome.

Speaker 6 There were a few comments about it. Actually, it speaks to something that Sig Ziggler has been saying for a while.
He's the dude over at Outsports.

Speaker 6 He's been saying this for years, which is like the NFL is ready for it. Right.
The players, for the like, the vast, vast majority, are going to be supportive when it does happen. Correct.

Speaker 6 It'll almost be like a joyous occasion yeah when it does happen sure you're going to have some fans that are probably going to like cross a few lines that are not going to react the best way but but for the most part i i mean like more so during the regular season yeah um but i think for the most part it was like it was overwhelmingly supportive which was cool to see yeah and then even john gruden so like that was the question it's like what's what's old john going to say about this and john was super supportive john i would imagine that he said i think uh what i learned a long time ago that what it makes him what makes a man different makes him great I was like that's cool John also he like needs every defensive player he can have right so that that does play into yeah I also I think maybe we should have like a recurring recurring character on the show of just like extremely tolerant John Gruden yeah hey man tell me how you do that stuff Carl like can you explain to me I think that's awesome man I invented grinder dude oh I did man you had that one right locked and loaded to go I didn't want to tweet it out yeah I know you definitely had that locked and loaded

Speaker 5 out didn't want to put that one on the internet man how do you how do you guys decide who pays for dinner when you go out man i just want to go ahead keep going no i'm just i'm just i'm just rolling man this is this is open mic night that's awesome pfd i love

Speaker 5 you have one more no i don't i don't

Speaker 6 but i do think that john gruden is probably going to be like super over the top like any any gay guy that john gruden meets he's going to be like i got to introduce you to carl man you love carl yeah you you get along so well.

Speaker 6 Probably.

Speaker 5 I mean, it was

Speaker 5 very cool. The

Speaker 5 Trevor project that he donated to, I thought was like that. Was the other part of his video?

Speaker 5 Like, he not only came out and was like, Hey, I'm not trying to make this a big deal. This is just who I am, which is great,

Speaker 5 and everyone was accepting of it, but also the Trevor Project, which I had no idea about. And I was like, Holy shit, I read about it.
It's like there, I saw the stat that he posted. It was,

Speaker 5 if, if there's a suicidal LGB, I'm going to fuck this up.

Speaker 5 Help me. LGBTQ.

Speaker 5 Like teenager or kid, suicidal. If they have one accepting adult in their life, it's a 40% chance less likely that they will

Speaker 5 be suicidal, commit suicide. So it's really just if you're an adult, being accepting and finding a way to be that person that is like,

Speaker 5 show that to people. Be like, hey, I'm happy for Carl Nassib.
This is awesome. There's no negative to this.
This is a great, great thing. People should be really happy about it.

Speaker 5 And that can have an impact on someone's life. Yeah, it was awesome.
So that's it.

Speaker 6 I was actually like, when I saw the news come out and I saw the reaction to it, it made me feel like happy about the future of the world.

Speaker 6 It's like, all right, I think we've got our shit together as a country.

Speaker 5 Agreed. Agreed.
All right. So.
I got one more.

Speaker 5 These are bad. Okay, go ahead.
I don't, wait, they were bad? Wow. I like the dinner one.
Dinner one was good. The dinner one was good.
I think it's the Gruden. I like them.
I think it's the voice.

Speaker 5 Thank you, Hank. It's good.

Speaker 6 Listen, we need to support each other.

Speaker 5 I thought this was a thumbs up.

Speaker 6 All right, strongest bond now between me and Hank, second, the bedliner.

Speaker 5 Okay.

Speaker 6 I was just going to say DK Metcalf is still the straightest player in the NFL.

Speaker 5 Wait, you want to do it in the Gruden voice? No, it's not a Gruden. Okay, got it.
Got it. You didn't want to tweet any of these?

Speaker 6 No. No.

Speaker 6 No.

Speaker 6 No, buddy.

Speaker 5 No,

Speaker 5 they weren't bad. I just...
The accent, you know.

Speaker 6 There was a time when Big Cat supported my John Grugen voice.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I guess.

Speaker 5 I don't know.

Speaker 5 I don't know. I don't.
I guess maybe once we hire Joey and it's like, he's the

Speaker 5 impression guy.

Speaker 6 Oh, I suck at impressions. Right.
But I still do them. Right.

Speaker 5 Oh, I know. Oh, I know.
I'm the Jameis Winston. I know you do.

Speaker 6 I'm the Jameis Winston of Impressions.

Speaker 5 Give me a little Jerry Jones.

Speaker 6 It's pretty similar. I know.

Speaker 5 That's why I want to give it to you. I think Jerry reacted to the news.
Yeah, give me Jerry's reaction.

Speaker 6 It was like,

Speaker 6 give me that boy, Michael Sam, on the corner.

Speaker 5 Let's get back on the roster.

Speaker 5 I ain't going to let this son bitch take my headlines from me. That's good.
I like the off-the-cuff. That's good.
The Jerry Joe. Give me Greene's reaction.

Speaker 5 He's getting it. He's finding it.

Speaker 5 He's finding it.

Speaker 5 My wife.

Speaker 5 That's it.

Speaker 6 Oh, my God. You think Sean McVay is jealous of John Gruden?

Speaker 6 That John Gruden

Speaker 6 gets to be Mr. Cool Coach now?

Speaker 5 Yeah, probably a little.

Speaker 6 He's like cold calling all his players, asking, you got anything you want to tell me? Yeah.

Speaker 5 Hey, hey, yeah, who's he got on his team that he could be like, hey, come on?

Speaker 6 See, I don't want to even say, because then you run into.

Speaker 5 Yeah, no, you put me in that spot right there.

Speaker 6 The speculation police. Yeah.
All right.

Speaker 6 The bottom line is,

Speaker 6 you know what's great?

Speaker 6 As straight guys.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 6 I want to preface by saying that. We're able to joke about it.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 So no idea if that was appropriate or not, but I think the general feel is that good for Carl and we're happy that we're able to very accept this and move forward as a society.

Speaker 5 It's an awesome awesome thing. Yep, nothing but happiness.
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Speaker 5 Okay, Hank, hot seat, cool throne, Henry. My hot seat is being that guy.
Ooh. Oh, you're not that guy, Pat.

Speaker 5 You're not not that guy, pal? No,

Speaker 5 not that guy, pal. Pal.
You're not that guy, pal. Pretty much, you know, it's a great clip, but I think that's going to be the clip of the summer.

Speaker 5 Everything you do with your friends, your co-workers, pretty much anything, any tweet, anything that goes out, any Instagram posts, you're going to see comments about you're not that guy, you're not that guy, or you are that guy.

Speaker 5 But hot seat, just if you think you're that guy, you're going to be told over the next few months many times that you, in fact, are not.

Speaker 6 Yeah, if you go into a situation, you're like, I think I'm that dude right now. It turns out that you can just get cut down to size via a GIF.
Is there any backstory that we have to this?

Speaker 6 Or do we know what happened afterwards?

Speaker 5 Well, the backstory is pretty simple. That once you get past the ages of 45, 50, and you're a father, and maybe you have a little bit of physique, maybe physique, maybe you go to the hospital.

Speaker 5 Are you just assuming he's a father? Yeah, I am. It looked like he was at Costco or something.

Speaker 5 You have a strength that no one wants to fuck with.

Speaker 5 So that was such a classic, like he was probably talking to a kid somewhere in the late teens, early 20s, and he just essentially put him right in his

Speaker 5 place where he's like, look, you think that you're hot shit, but you're not that guy, pal. And that would scare the fuck out of me if I were that 20-year-old kid.

Speaker 5 I would walk out of that place, the Costco Sam's Club, and go and cry in my car because there is something about that dad's strength that is very intimidating.

Speaker 6 It's just anybody over the age of 50 that says something super confidently to you, you're inclined to just believe what they say.

Speaker 5 Their hands, that guy's hands are wrenches. That guy, he looked like, what's his name?

Speaker 6 Was it Coach Taylor from Friday Night Lights?

Speaker 5 He looked like his brother.

Speaker 6 He looked like, yeah, his alcoholic brother that had been out in the sun all day. And just like telling you, you're not that guy.
Like, me watching it, I believed I wasn't that guy either.

Speaker 6 That's how far he reached through the computer.

Speaker 5 We'll put the audio clip in here just in case no one's seen it. Just for reference.

Speaker 6 If you could take six. You're not that guy, pal.
Trust me. You're not that guy.

Speaker 10 Okay.

Speaker 5 Absolutely.

Speaker 5 But that's

Speaker 5 just one warning.

Speaker 6 You're not going to be that guy after you hear this.

Speaker 5 What that guy did is it's an incredible skill that only a select few of guys have where you basically diffuse a fight. What is that beeping? You diffuse a fight and win a fight with a sentence.

Speaker 5 You diffuse a fight and win a fight with just saying something to the person that wants to maybe partake in a fight. What is that beeping? I think it's the Coors Light Cooler.

Speaker 6 Or is that Billy's ankle monitor?

Speaker 5 Oh, yeah, shit.

Speaker 5 Are you not supposed to be here? No, dude. I hit my month.
Oh, okay. All right.
You're not that guy, pal. Yeah, good hot seat, Hank.
Ah, thank you. And then my cool throne is Matt Stafford.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 5 He is that guy. He is that guy.
According to Sean McVay, this is that time of year when these quotes happen where immediately after I saw it, I went and looked at the Barcelona Sportsbook.

Speaker 5 Looked at Matt Stafford's audio, and was like, hmm, this looks good. But Sean McVay was talking to Albert Breer and said, bro, this dude's a bad motherfucker.

Speaker 5 I'm rooting for Matt Stafford. Wait, keep going with the quote, sorry.
Whatever people say about him, as good as it can be, he's even better than advertised. It makes sense to him.

Speaker 5 The guy's ability to see the game, his ability to draw on his experiences, the feel that he has. It's pretty special and unique.

Speaker 5 And man, his feel for people, his authentic way of connecting with his teammates, his coaches, this guy, it's great being around him. That quote, MVP.
I saw it. I saw the future.

Speaker 5 Dude, I'm rooting for Matt Stafford because that is, there's a few takes that we all have out there that are just lingering. And Matt Stafford being a Hall of Famer would be

Speaker 5 I could retire on that take.

Speaker 6 It's definitely a case of Jared Goff doing the SpongeBob meme out the window, looking at those shits.

Speaker 5 Yeah, you're gonna.

Speaker 6 He never used to talk dirty to me like that.

Speaker 5 But guess what? That's good for Jared. That's good to be good for excellent motivators.

Speaker 6 I'm sure that Dan Campbell is gassing him up behind the scenes in his own way.

Speaker 5 Why would you want to feel the need to say it publicly? Why would you want to be with someone who doesn't love you?

Speaker 6 You never would. It's a waste of time.
Waste of time. It's actually, I think both sides won that breakup.

Speaker 5 Yeah, sure. Agreed.
Agreed. That's it.
That's my hot seat and my cool throw. All right, Hank, good.
Good job, Hank.

Speaker 6 Those are two solid choices. I appreciate it.

Speaker 6 You are that guy gassing up the bros. Yeah.

Speaker 6 My hot seat. You're not that guy, pal.
My hot seat is.

Speaker 5 I can't wait to be old dad, where I'm just like, I'm so beaten down by everything that I will beat you up with my words. I think it's like Billy.

Speaker 5 I feel like Billy, I feel like Billy is what I think of when I think of listeners now. I think of a group of him and his friends just being drunk and being like, you're not that guy.

Speaker 5 No, you're not that guy, pal. Like, all that.
Right, which is funny because they actually are not. None of them are that guy.
Right. But so they're all correct when they say that to each other.

Speaker 6 Right.

Speaker 5 Right.

Speaker 6 And you've seen some shit. Like, I'm sure that dude's probably spent 15 years changing diapers.
He's got the thousand yards in there. He's like,

Speaker 5 nothing that happens.

Speaker 5 Nothing that happens in the supermarket. So 15.

Speaker 5 Maybe.

Speaker 5 Maybe he's got like a Nick Cannon situation.

Speaker 5 First of all, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 6 Maybe he's Nick Cannon just

Speaker 6 skeeting in everybody. Yeah.
But yeah, you could be changing diapers for 15 years.

Speaker 6 Maybe you've got like three kids that suck at shitting, and then like five others that are just alcoholics just crapping the bed all the time.

Speaker 6 Anyways, my hot seat is like seven different quarterbacks in the NFL.

Speaker 6 Just off the top of my head, I think Gardner Minshew, Drews, Brees, Endlock, Nick Foles, Daniel Jones, and Phillip Rivers, probably to name a few, because Tom Brady went on LeBron's show, The Shop, which he stole from Nick Saban at Alabama.

Speaker 6 And they released a preview of it. And in the preview, Tom was talking about the courtship, the quarterback courtship that happened last year.

Speaker 6 And there was one team in particular where he said, Really? You're going to stick with that motherfucker over me? So now everybody's trying to guess. I mean, it was the Bears.
What team?

Speaker 6 Well, it could be the Bears.

Speaker 6 I think he's talking about Mitch. I think he was, I would say maybe the Colts.

Speaker 5 I don't think he would play for the Colts. I felt like it could be Drew Locke, too.
He was always...

Speaker 5 Really? Close.

Speaker 5 But I don't think he would say that about Drew Brees.

Speaker 6 I think Tom Brady would say that about literally anybody.

Speaker 5 I think it's a non-personal thing.

Speaker 6 Actually, no, it was on LeBron James's show. He was probably talking about Delante West.

Speaker 5 I just say, it's, you know, when you have insecurities in life and the Chicago Bears are my insecurity, like, that you just think everyone's talking about you.

Speaker 5 So you're like, oh, fuck, that was definitely

Speaker 5 the Bears.

Speaker 6 It's definitely like a Rorschach test, whatever team you thought should have gone out to get Tom Brady last year.

Speaker 6 Like, there are a bunch of fans of different franchises that are going to see this and be like, yeah, he's talking about us because that's the effect Tom Brady has.

Speaker 6 And it turns out he was probably right that they wouldn't be sticking with that motherfucker. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Won a Super bowl billy what are you gonna say i think it was garoppolo because he wanted to retire actually no that yeah you're right actually that is who it is no i i really do think that's who it is that i forgot when i first saw the clip i was like 49ers and then i started getting in my feels and was like bears well sabermetrically it's also most likely to be philip rivers he's probably the most mom but i don't think he ever would have gone would have gone to the colts that never felt like real yeah but i the 49ers and the bears both were linked to him it would have been like spiteful if he went to the 49ers.

Speaker 5 Yeah. And just fucked over Jimmy again.
Yeah. I actually,

Speaker 5 and I think that that's why. Yeah.
I don't think he's that spiteful, though. He won that.
He definitely won that break.

Speaker 6 You don't think Tom Brady's that spiteful?

Speaker 5 No, I mean, like, he was. He forced him out of town, and then he won two Super Bowls.
He's once

Speaker 5 seven Super Bowls, and he still is like 199th pick. It's like, no, you're not.
You're the seventh Super Bowl guy.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 5 It's a great motivator. It's credit to him.
He's able to keep that.

Speaker 5 If I won seven Super Bowls after being a sixth-round draft pick or fifth-round, whatever it is, I think I would start to be like, you know what? I think I'm pretty good. I'm that dude.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I am that guy.

Speaker 6 And then my

Speaker 6 cool throne is the notion of amateurism dying in America because the Supreme Court put like an Alabama-Notre Dame-style beatdown on the NCAA, nine to nothing.

Speaker 6 It was a hockey score, it was an Islanders lightning score. Ouch.
And

Speaker 6 they essentially said, guess what? You cannot define amateurism as being an entity that does not pay people.

Speaker 6 So they were using the term amateurism to describe amateurism and using that to explain why you can't provide benefits to players.

Speaker 6 And the biggest thing coming out of this, first of all, it's like the first domino to fall. So the NCAA is done.

Speaker 6 And you're always not in a great position when the federal government is like, this organization is really fucking corrupt.

Speaker 6 And when you can get like nine Supreme Court judges to agree on anything, you're probably fucked. So it's like the first domino to fall.

Speaker 6 And one of the things that they ruled is that schools are allowed to provide as many education-related expenses as they want to players.

Speaker 6 So that includes free laptops and post-education paid internships. Damn, Kim Newton would still be a Florida Gator.
The free laptop thing is interesting because

Speaker 6 you could, in theory, provide... an athlete with like an entire dorm room filled with servers for them to mine cryptocurrency in that dorm room.

Speaker 6 Like LSU could be like, hey, we're going to name, we're going to build a new dorm called the Arch Manning Dormitory. It's just going to be filled with computers.

Speaker 6 And so you can just generate money for yourself while you're here.

Speaker 5 But you'd have to be like a computer programmer.

Speaker 6 Yeah, the school could probably find a couple of computer programmers.

Speaker 6 No, no, no. You would give them to Arch Manning.
Got it, got it.

Speaker 6 And then while they were at LSU or Olemas or wherever they were going to school, they just have a full-time income generating server farm mining Bitcoins. Got it.
Got it.

Speaker 6 So that's going to be the new like cash app

Speaker 6 or Venmo payments, I think, if I can see the future.

Speaker 5 Got it.

Speaker 5 Crypto mines at

Speaker 5 campuses for the college students.

Speaker 6 There's nothing. Right now, according to what the law says, you can provide students with as many computers as you want to.
Why not? In that instance. But the bottom line is the NCAA is fucked.

Speaker 6 It's on its last legs.

Speaker 5 Yeah, which is good.

Speaker 6 If anything, I mean, I hope they include one of their decisions that just bring back the crystal ball from the BCS.

Speaker 5 I do think there's going to be a group of people that, like, what do they do now that they don't have the free points of just being like, the NCAA sucks?

Speaker 5 Because that's a dunk online that anyone can do, and everyone would be like, yeah, good point.

Speaker 5 Even though we all, I think there's not, besides maybe Doug Gottlieb and maybe Dickie V, maybe Danny Canal. Not a lot of people.
Yeah. Oh, Dan Docketts.

Speaker 5 There's not a lot of people left out there who are like, yeah, these kids get in sweatpants and a trip to Italy every four years. That's payment.
Yeah, right. So you lose something.

Speaker 6 You do, but at this point, you've got Clarence Thomas and Soda Mayor agreeing on something. So, I mean, that's pretty much the end of it.

Speaker 6 That means that like 99.5% of America agrees that the NCAA is done. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Wait, was that your cool throne or a hot seat?

Speaker 6 That was, was that a hot seat or was that a cool throne? I think that was a hot seat.

Speaker 5 It was your cool throne. You said it was the hot motor.

Speaker 6 The notion of amateurs being fucked over. Yeah.

Speaker 5 All right. My hot seat seat is Greg Gard.
I think people probably saw it. The Wisconsin Badgers season was not a great one for college basketball.

Speaker 5 They did beat Roy Williams in the tournament, his last game ever. Not a big deal.
But the story came out. Very weird story.

Speaker 5 All the seniors, the seven seniors, taped Greg Gard a private conversation, basically saying he's a terrible coach and they don't have his back. Very weird story.

Speaker 5 I don't know how he recovers from it, but I also kind of expected this because if you watch them, they were good last or the COVID year, they were peaking, and then this year they completely sucked and they never like took the next step forward.

Speaker 5 So that's got to be a shitty feeling, though, to be a coach. And a few months after your season flames out, being like, oh, yeah, and all your seniors

Speaker 5 taped an hour-long conversation you had with them.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it's tough. So what do you do moving forward? Like no cell phones? Do you treat your office like a skiff? Like no electronics.
Let's lift your shirt up. Let's see if you're wearing a wire.

Speaker 5 You got to be constantly nervous. Yeah.
Constantly nervous.

Speaker 6 And so Greg Gard was like, I think he probably knows who taped it.

Speaker 5 I think if you're a coach, you probably have like a good idea who it was.

Speaker 6 Was it Trice?

Speaker 5 Well, Brad Davidson is doing another year. Yeah.

Speaker 5 I don't know. That's got to be awkward.

Speaker 6 That's very awkward.

Speaker 5 That's got to be really awkward.

Speaker 6 But I don't think Davidson would wear a wire.

Speaker 5 No, but he was in the room. Yeah.
And yeah, I mean, it sucks. So, oh, Devin Booker.
Time traveling. We're not going to time travel.
My cool throw in a skip Bayliss. Still got it.

Speaker 5 I don't know if you guys saw this. I didn't watch the actual segment, but a tweet that he had

Speaker 5 previewing his show, he said, Why are LeBron and AD following Russell Westbrook's wife on Instagram? Now on Undisputed.

Speaker 6 I love it. I love it.

Speaker 5 That is

Speaker 5 like just when you think that he doesn't have it anymore, he just throws 99 on the black.

Speaker 6 I wish I had seen that segment because I hope Shannon Sharp's response was, well, skip because you probably want a fucker.

Speaker 5 Yeah, unbelievable. The guy just can't miss.
He just keeps producing.

Speaker 6 Who do you think gave gave him that scoop? Do you think that Skip Bayless? Like,

Speaker 6 is this a bonkable situation for Skip?

Speaker 5 Like, was he going through her followers? No. Was he like cruising her profile?

Speaker 5 What you just brought up is a very interesting point because there's very clearly a person behind the scenes working for Skip Bayless that has Skip Bayless's brain and does all the things online.

Speaker 5 Ernestine. I want to meet that person.

Speaker 6 I feel like Ernestine is involved in tech somehow.

Speaker 5 No, it's like an evil genius. If I had to guess, it's like a 24-year-old kid who's probably bald and

Speaker 5 let's just say fat because he can't be on camera. He's got the brain, he's got the speaking ability, he doesn't have the looks, and he just feeds Skip Bayless crap all day, and it just ends up on TV.

Speaker 6 Like his little private investigator for him, yeah.

Speaker 5 Right. I mean, I want to meet that person.

Speaker 6 If we're being honest, anybody that's approximately that age in sports media should have a younger person do it. We're almost actually due for that.

Speaker 5 Unfortunately, we do have that person. Yeah.

Speaker 6 He's doing great. He's doing a great job.

Speaker 5 He's doing a great job.

Speaker 5 He's doing incredible. Yeah, big cat.

Speaker 6 We should hire somebody that's younger, maybe around the age of like 22, 23, is familiar with TikTok, Instagram, and is able to feed us these hot takes about athletes that we wouldn't be able to get to.

Speaker 6 If there's anybody out there that fits that description, please look.

Speaker 5 Oh, we actually did. Is he listening right now? Memes? Memes.
Shout out memes. If you've seen him, we've retreated him a bunch.
He's very, very funny. PMT memes on Twitter.
He is now part of the crew.

Speaker 5 Yep. Thanks to ZipRecruiter.
He lived the dream. He actually lived the dream.
People always like, How can I get hired? How can I find a job? You know, at Barstool?

Speaker 5 It's basically working and showing that you have something and never like giving up on it. And that's what he did.

Speaker 6 He basically roasted all of us enough to the point where we were like, okay, it's very funny.

Speaker 5 I think I like this guy. And we have a guy named Memes now, which is fucking awesome.
And I like him a lot. Thanks.
Not saying I like him any more than anyone else, but I like him a lot.

Speaker 5 Me too.

Speaker 5 Jake, you're hot seat cool through.

Speaker 5 Before that, I will say

Speaker 5 this is when you should take notes and have comebacks for us at the end of the show.

Speaker 6 We were talking about you. Right.

Speaker 5 You got this. You got it.
All right, but you got comebacks. Do you have a pen?

Speaker 5 All right, good, good, good, good.

Speaker 6 Good job, Billy.

Speaker 8 I was at a friend's house this weekend, and they had a microwave at Skip A-lis level.

Speaker 5 Oh, real time I've seen it in person. Did you? I actually, my parents are remodeling their kitchen, and they're like, we're going to get a microwave down there.

Speaker 5 and I was like a skip alis microwave and they're like what do you mean and I didn't even bother to explain it to them but I was like I don't know about that what's the purpose where did you ask them what they used apparently that's like that's the new thing that's like the trendy

Speaker 5 hits really fast I actually just realized I mean I've been living in my place for a year now I don't have skip bale it's not dick level it's like shin level yeah that's yeah like low a low so it's not full skip balis it's like knee level it's very like annoying I mean that's that is something you're a tall guy though too skip's not yeah it's something that if you saw if if you were having a few beers when you're like 22 years old and you walk into any room that has a drawer at crotch level, like that thing's getting peed in at some point.

Speaker 6 There should be like an age limit. Like you have to be over the age of 26 before you're responsible enough to have really anything in your home that pulls out at your dick's level.

Speaker 5 But I think that Hank is right. I think this is just how they do it.

Speaker 5 Yeah, because it is like, it's annoying and it's like, it's very annoying. But it also clean design.
Like if you just have a big microwave sitting on your countertop, it doesn't look good.

Speaker 5 So they just stash it away

Speaker 5 where I break my back. And also, I'm pretty sure...

Speaker 5 Can you like, can you get radiation through the microwave?

Speaker 6 Yeah, so I was always told don't stand in front of a microwave while it's going to like it's literally his head level. Superpowers.

Speaker 5 All right.

Speaker 5 Hot seat is Bryson D. Chambeau and Aaron Rodgers because Brady posted some putts today.
He looks ready. Him and Phil.
I mean, we're obviously rooting for them. Yeah.

Speaker 5 They're those guys.

Speaker 6 And a lot of people are saying that the second putt that Brady hit didn't actually go in and it was edited.

Speaker 6 I think it absolutely went out.

Speaker 5 It definitely went out.

Speaker 5 Did you actually just ask us if we're rooting for no, I didn't ask. I just meant like

Speaker 5 we're rooting for them, right? No, I didn't say that. Aaron Rodgers and Bryson D.
Champagne.

Speaker 5 I literally tweeted this morning, like Team Phil and Hitler and Osama bin Laden are playing him, and I'm probably low-key being like, ah, you know, these other guys. That's some comparison.

Speaker 5 He's just golf, yeah. He's pretty big.
He's tall. He's fucking drive it a real long way.

Speaker 5 It's actually what you're going through right now is exactly what the u.s went in went through in like the late 80s so you're like you're supporting bin laden because he's taken out hussein right at the time like i whatever you just put my two biggest enemies together i don't care who's playing against them yeah um and then cool throne is robert griffin iii so ESPN and Fox are in a bidding war for him as an analyst.

Speaker 5 Whoa. So it looks like he found his future career.
How did it for him?

Speaker 5 How do we not get in that? But also, how who this seems like...

Speaker 5 a bidding war?

Speaker 6 This seems like something that might have been leaked straight from the camp of Robert Griffin III.

Speaker 6 I was going to say because there was another anonymous quote out there that was that it said, He's the next coming of Tony Romo. And so we got to get in on that.
You know what? It's probably his dad.

Speaker 5 Whatever happened to him, it's probably RGB fantasy camp.

Speaker 6 It's probably RG Jr.

Speaker 5 Yeah,

Speaker 5 or Greta?

Speaker 6 Greta is probably all over this. What do you think?

Speaker 5 This doesn't pass the do I have a brain in my skull test. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Just straight up.

Speaker 5 Yeah. That he's able to get people like you to say there's a bidding war.
I mean, if Pro Football Talk and your posts are saying

Speaker 5 anything. Florio, come on.
Be better.

Speaker 5 This time of year.

Speaker 6 Exactly. Yeah, right.

Speaker 5 They're looking for points. Good point here.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 No, I don't think that. I don't think there's a bidding war going on for RG3 services.
As much as I would like.

Speaker 5 And by the way, his credit together.

Speaker 5 This is a headline. Like, we just sent that back to you.
Do you hear? Do you hear it now?

Speaker 5 You hear it, right? Yeah.

Speaker 6 I actually thought that RG3 would be lucky. I thought what he was going for this whole summer, he is desperately looking for a job to be an Olympic commentator.

Speaker 6 So he's releasing all these videos of him, like, doing hurdles and stuff out on track, just reminding people that he was an elite-level sprinter and hurdler. The Olympics are coming up.

Speaker 6 I thought he would get lucky if Bleacher Report was like, hey, can you zoom in once a week to talk to us about hurdling? I thought that's, but no, you're right. No, he's got a bidding war.

Speaker 5 Well, I heard that.

Speaker 6 I heard that Chris Collinsworth is getting squeezed out.

Speaker 5 Oh, just quote it back out loud. It's so funny.
The executives were, quote, blown away by his audition. Yeah, he did.
He's an amazing audition.

Speaker 6 I mean, if it was anything like his combine performance, like the guy, he shows up in practice for sure.

Speaker 6 He put out a video of him running a 40-yard dash. Watch this video if you haven't seen it because he labeled it.
He put like his whole stats on there.

Speaker 6 He was like, I'm 6'2 ⁇ , 215 pounds, 31 years old, and I still run a 4-2-7.

Speaker 6 And if you just look at the video on on Instagram, the video is five seconds long. It says five seconds on the video.

Speaker 6 If it is, in fact, a 4.27, he is the longest strider in the history of the world because it looks like he's running underwater. But that's, listen, I don't want to trash RG3.
I love RG3.

Speaker 6 He's always going to have a big part of my heart.

Speaker 6 But bidding war. Bidding war is a strong term.
Big guy.

Speaker 5 You just came up on this article about the... Oh, yeah.
There it is. I did not,

Speaker 5 if that had been brought up when I was with Florio, I would have laughed in his face. Just like I'm laughing in yours.
Maybe Maybe next week. Yeah, I'll try to get him to bring it up.

Speaker 5 All right, is that it?

Speaker 8 Yes, that is it.

Speaker 6 I totally forgot about the fantasy camp thing. His whole life is a fantasy camp.

Speaker 5 You save it for the end, Billy. You save it for the end.
You got your hot seat, cool throne, and the recap. Cool.

Speaker 5 It's been one week. You're doing great, though, Billy.
You're doing great. You're that guy right now.
You're doing awesome.

Speaker 8 Oh, baseball.

Speaker 6 Want to talk baseball?

Speaker 5 Oh,

Speaker 5 we'll do it after the interviews. We'll do Mike Greenberg's Dumb Rules.
Sweet. And then FAQs.
Before we get to our interview with Tony Khan,

Speaker 5 talk to you quickly about our friends.

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Speaker 5 Okay, here he is, Tony Kahn.

Speaker 5 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. He is co-owner of the Jacksonville Jaguars, Fulham FC.
He is the founder and president and CEO of

Speaker 5 AEW Wrestling. It is Tony Khan.
Shot out of a cannon. Love it.
Great to see you. I actually had this question lined up when

Speaker 5 we got a text message saying that you were here at 10.

Speaker 5 And like, hey, Tony's early. And then we were like, all right, we're ready at 10.45.
And then we got a text back being like, Well, now he needs till 10:50. I just want to give you credit.

Speaker 5 That was an alpha move, so that was a full-time alpha move.

Speaker 8 I didn't do any of that. I didn't do any of that.

Speaker 8 That's like when you have people, this is the problem with people.

Speaker 8 This is why, like, I don't actually have an assistant, and when you go on like a press tour, like you have to, Mandy's great, and like, I have great people, but uh, you know, I normally do stuff one-on-one, so I should have just DM'd you, man.

Speaker 8 That I was gonna, I know, I've known PFT for a while, we're combine bros.

Speaker 5 Yeah, we're happy you're here, though. We're happy you're here.
You got awesome AEW shoes on. We're going to to talk everything.

Speaker 5 You want to start with AEW? I'd love to. Thanks.

Speaker 8 Thanks for having me on.

Speaker 5 This is dope. Yes.
Your office is sick. Yes, it is very good.
Do you really think it's sick? Yeah, I love it, dude. Really? Have you seen my pile and shit? This is sick.

Speaker 8 Your pile is great. The weight bench is dope.

Speaker 5 I don't know about that.

Speaker 6 What do you think about that couch? That couch is actually broken.

Speaker 8 I think it's good, man. I think I'm comfortable.

Speaker 6 Okay, as long as you're comfortable, but like, I'm honestly, like, I'm always interested to know when people come into this room.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Like, what their real impression is. Are they like, I'm going to pretend like I'm cool in this environment? Are they like, I'm actually comfortable in this mess?

Speaker 6 Because me and Big Cat, we're like pigs. We're comfortable in messes.

Speaker 5 It feels like I'm home. All right, I like that.
The nice thing about this office is like I can keep my home clean.

Speaker 5 I don't actually keep it clean myself, but my office can be like my life like in college. You know what I mean? Like this is

Speaker 5 young. This room is gross all the time.

Speaker 8 Yeah, man. If you sub some of the subs, like Lenny Dykstrout for Sammy Sosa,

Speaker 8 this could easily be my room in college.

Speaker 6 Yeah, he's our financial advisor. So it's important to have.

Speaker 5 Just so you know, we come.

Speaker 6 I know that you probably have done okay with your money, but Lenny, he's 600 and oh in a stock pick. No,

Speaker 6 sorry, he got one wrong. I'm humble.
He got one wrong, and he hasn't been in jail in three years. Yes.
So if you're looking to put your money with somebody, you could do worse than nils.

Speaker 8 Yeah, it's true. You could go with Pete Rose.

Speaker 5 Yeah, right. All right, so let's talk AEW wrestling.
So I'm a huge wrestling fan.

Speaker 5 I guess the first question I have is, what made you think that you could take on the big guys? Because it's been tried before and it hasn't worked out.

Speaker 5 But, like, I love this because I think the best thing for wrestling is competition and giving the audience more than one thing to watch is always great.

Speaker 5 So, what made you think, like, hey, you know what? We can do this. Like, I want to do this.
This is my plan. And let's go tackle this thing.

Speaker 5 Okay.

Speaker 8 Have you ever, like, both of you have been in this situation where sometimes you're just like, you're at a party, you're with friends, and you're like, let's just try some shit, right?

Speaker 8 And that was what happened. I was at a party with some friends in Beverly Hills, and I saw my friend who was a president of TNT and TBS, and it all just kind of clicked.

Speaker 8 Like it's probably something I'd thought about a million times, but I'd never, until you, until you get in the moment. And I went up to him and I said, Kev,

Speaker 8 are you looking at bidding on the WWE TV rights? And he said, yes, yes, I am. And he said, I'm not looking at bidding on both packages.
I'm looking at bidding on one of them.

Speaker 8 And I said, oh, knowing that that's, you know, of course, SmackDown. And he said, it's going to go for probably over $150.
And it ended up going for $205 million annually to Fox.

Speaker 8 But they were in on the bidding, at least initially, on the initial wave. And I said, Kev, I, you know, that's interesting, but have you ever considered, you know, maybe we could do this?

Speaker 8 And he was like, what do you mean? And I said, well, the company that you operate owned and operated 20 years ago today, which was true the day I said it,

Speaker 8 the number one wrestling company in the world. And he said, really? And I said, Have you ever heard of WCW? He had not.
But WCW, if people don't know, was formerly a competitor to the WWF.

Speaker 8 They ended up getting sold by AOL Time Warner and they got shuttered, and it's not a thing anymore.

Speaker 8 But AEW exists, in my opinion, because of the failure of WCW because they vacated this great time slot, this great relationship with TNT and TBS that we have.

Speaker 6 And that was the success of WCW was the outlet, the penetration they had from tnt tbs and of course the fans and there are all these fans that wanted an alternative and so anyway that's how i like how you're saying this was like your buddies uh and you got together at a party and you're like hey let's go start a wrestling league and then sell it for a million like if if it's me in that scenario i'm like let's go to 7-Eleven and order one of every kind of Taquito and then come back and like do a blind taste that's like my big plan I bet you I can throw a football 65 yards like no fucking way can you and that's that's basically what you were doing just you just went full snake

Speaker 5 on starting a league yeah i've partied with you before man like 99 of the time you know it's just you know you don't think of stuff like that but every once in a while like the spark's there and something cool yeah so so what are you gonna do what what have you done and what did you learn from wcw because like wrestling fans hardcore wrestling fans know that wcw in the 90s that's really kind of how the attitude era came because it was monday night wars and all that thing all that was going on and it was competition going at each other that elevated wrestling so you obviously aren't in it to become make wwe better and be like competition will make them better and then i'll just go away so what what were like the big lessons that you learned or things that you've implemented that are different than wcw it's a great question uh so i believe that there were a lot of successes of wcw you can learn from also and so I've learned from the pros and the cons, and I think some of the things that went wrong for WCW, in my opinion, were the creative control.

Speaker 8 They gave creative control to a lot of the wrestlers, and some of the storylines are asinine, and some of the ideas were great, but like it was a very disorganized show.

Speaker 8 And then when they brought somebody else in from the WWF to be a writer named Vince Russo, he made it 10 times worse.

Speaker 8 And he took a problem, and then it was like they had a massive hangnail, and he just chopped off the arm.

Speaker 8 And so that was a part of the problem. And then you have another major, major issue for them, in my opinion, was the management that they were, you know,

Speaker 8 most wrestling companies that have been really successful over time have had like one supreme commander at the top who's like owned it, booked, like done everything top to bottom, run the place, like run the management, whether it was Vince McMahon for years, you know, organizing everything, Cowboy Bill Watts, Eddie Graham, Fritz von Erich, and countless others.

Speaker 8 And so I think like that made sense as a business model. And I told Kevin that's like the strong management WCW WCW didn't have, I can provide.

Speaker 8 So, in terms of being a more organized booker than anybody they had, so yeah, all right.

Speaker 5 So, when are you going to do steroids so that you can be part of the like because that really, you know, Vince McMahon doing steroids and showing up and like starting to get in the storylines?

Speaker 5 Like, you know, you're going to have to, right?

Speaker 8 No, that's not, I mean, no, no, that is definitely not something those are.

Speaker 5 Okay, I disagree with your artistic vision on this one. Could you be a villain?

Speaker 6 Could you be like, could you float out rumors? Like, I'm going to move this thing over to over to London.

Speaker 5 That's amazing.

Speaker 8 No, I've, I've, I've, uh, no, I've would never want to be a villain on my own show, and I've never shown up on Dynamite or our pay-per-views.

Speaker 5 That to me would be more fun.

Speaker 8 I don't want to do it on my own.

Speaker 5 You got like 250 and ripped, and you just showed up, and you were a villain. I don't need, well, first of all, without completely

Speaker 8 a very solid natural physique, I think. I've shown up on other wrestling shows and been a villain.

Speaker 8 I'm happy to open what I call the forbidden door that is me and go to other wrestling shows and appear there and and kind of trash them and talk about how great AEW is and how we're the number one cool wrestling company.

Speaker 6 That's sick to call yourself the forbidden door. I want to call myself that at some point.

Speaker 8 Well I've trademarked it so you can't.

Speaker 5 Damn it.

Speaker 6 Well, what about this? So you could go the other way if you don't want to put on 250 pounds or whatever. You could just like slim down a little bit, put on a big pair of glasses.

Speaker 6 I know that you're into you've got like a sports analytics company.

Speaker 5 How much can I slim down? I'm skinny.

Speaker 6 No, get like super emaciated and then you could just be the nerd that's ruining wrestling and you could bring analytics into the wrestling ring.

Speaker 5 Well, that's pretty good.

Speaker 6 And try to like go over the top with these saber metrics and tell the fans that they're rooting for the wrong guys because they don't actually compare to that well when you look at the numbers.

Speaker 8 That's why I like you so much.

Speaker 8 That's a great idea. That's actually a very good idea.

Speaker 6 Because there was one guy, I think, in like backyard wrestling, he called himself like the progressive liberal, but only wrestled in very conservative states.

Speaker 6 And he just wore Bernie Sanders shirts and yelled at everybody in the crowd about how they're backwards.

Speaker 6 Like, that's what you should be doing, but with the analytics and just make everybody hate you that way. I think, honestly, I would watch that.

Speaker 5 That's pretty good. It's not a bad idea, actually.
So, do you know what? You got to get in it. You got to get in the mix.

Speaker 8 Well, that's pretty, you know, like I said, I've done stuff on other wrestling shows to kind of promote AEW and crossover, but that's kind of the line I don't want to cross because I feel like you kind of disappear up your own butt when you start writing that way.

Speaker 8 So, as a booker, one thing I know, and I've never had to book myself into the show, other than like as a matchmaker, like I'll make matches, but I do 99% of it is off-screen.

Speaker 8 Like, they'll say Tony Khan just announced this huge title match for next week, and you'll hear that every week.

Speaker 6 You're like Suge Knight back in the 90s telling people, like, oh, don't sign with Bad Boy Records. You don't want your producer dancing in your video.
Come out to Death Row. That's you.

Speaker 5 Yeah, without.

Speaker 8 Without, yeah, but like, way, way, way less felonies. And yes, good.

Speaker 5 Yes. Okay, that's, yeah.
But you also might get to his weight if you do the steroid route like I said you should. Wait, so how, how do you?

Speaker 5 This is the the part that I guess appeal, try to appeal to a guy like myself who I loved attitude area wrestling. I still love the concept of wrestling.

Speaker 5 I still will watch probably one to two pay-per-views a year, but I'm not like hooked.

Speaker 5 And I know that that obviously has something to do with, you know, age and everything else, but it's also, it doesn't feel like this, there's stars, there's new age stars that were like new age stars back in the 90s.

Speaker 5 And it feels like a lot of places or a lot of wrestling now is trying to relive that era. So, how are you escaping from that era? How are you finding the new guys?

Speaker 8 That's such a great question. And so, first of all,

Speaker 8 I'm going to talk extensively on it. I have a question.
Are you guys available September 15th and or September 22nd?

Speaker 6 Probably sounds like it's football season.

Speaker 5 Football, no. Wednesday.

Speaker 8 There's no football. What are you going to watch the match?

Speaker 5 It's a match in a little match.

Speaker 5 Yeah, we're going to watch the match in the show.

Speaker 6 It's also Waiverwire Day on fantasy football.

Speaker 5 But we could do that.

Speaker 8 You could do that at the back.

Speaker 8 So, okay, we're doing AEW at the Prudential Center on Wednesday, September 15th, and we're doing the first ever wrestling show at Arthur Ashe Stadium here in New York City on September 22nd on Wednesday.

Speaker 5 What if it rains?

Speaker 8 Well, it's the day of the roof.

Speaker 5 Oh, okay. On Arthur Ash.
So, U.S. Open Street.

Speaker 5 You've thought of everything.

Speaker 8 U.S. Open is never at these printing.

Speaker 8 It's a great venue, Arthur Ashe Stadium. And so I'd love to have both of you there and show you firsthand.
And now

Speaker 8 I will extensively give you a long-winded answer to that great question. It's, I believe in the wrestling of the past, the present, and the future.

Speaker 8 The top stars of the past still have great value and can still come in and contribute in a meaningful way.

Speaker 8 And Sting and Jake the Snake are still a huge part of our show, just as an example.

Speaker 8 And then, you know, top stars of the present, like the best wrestlers in the world, Chris Jericho, Kenny Omega, Jon Moxley, and stars of the future, like Jungle Boy, who like gets

Speaker 8 a lot of hype and is a number one contender to the title right now. And MJF, I don't know if you guys are familiar with him, but he's one of the top young wrestlers in the world at 24.
Dr.

Speaker 8 Britt Baker, our women's champion, who's one of the best acts in wrestling, is a legit dentist, legit doctor. You guys would love her.

Speaker 8 She'd be a great person to come hang out because she's a huge football person, too. She's a Penn State grad and went to dental school at Pitt.
She's dope. She's a Steelers fan, which I don't like.

Speaker 8 And we have this great roster of really young talent that is,

Speaker 8 you you know, some of them became like viral wrestling stars before AEW. And like, you know, they're being pushed in a meaningful way.
So it's not,

Speaker 8 like I said, the past, the present, and the future all in one. And then trying to keep it into a fun, organized show that delivers like good wrestling every single Wednesday.

Speaker 6 So is AEW, is that like your main job? If you were to say your full-time job is running AEW, or how much time do you split between that and handling Jaguar stuff?

Speaker 8 Dude, like I work, all I do is work. I don't have, so I, I, Jaguar, and it totally depends on the season.
Like, um, between on a Wednesday night during the AEW, absolutely.

Speaker 8 But I split my time in a pretty crazy way, and I work a lot of, like, 20-hour days and do crazy stuff, and, like, work a lot of, like, 90-plus. I mean, who am I kidding? Like,

Speaker 8 a lot more than 90 hours, a lot of weeks between the three things.

Speaker 8 And it just depends on where we're at in the season and where we're at in NFL season, where we're at with English football season, and, of course, where AEW is. So it changes day to day.

Speaker 6 But I mean, did you ever just wake up and you're like, this feels like a football day? I'm going to do football stuff. No, it's crazy, dude.

Speaker 8 Yeah, like, yeah. It's like, but it's also hard to switch sometimes.
Like, I get so, like, the draft, especially Saturday, because I'm like, I am a big person on Saturday in the NFL draft.

Speaker 8 I will tell you that. Because

Speaker 8 I believe in the undrafted free agency, and that is the thing. That is like my Christmas in the NFL is the last day of the draft.
I love signing undrafted free agents.

Speaker 8 Over half our secondary is our players that I signed as undrafted free agents. I get on the phone, I chase guys, and you've got, right now,

Speaker 8 I take a lot of pride in it. Trey Herndon is going to come in and compete at nickel for us.
And he's a guy from Vanderbilt. I called and scouts had nothing on him, you know, at the time.

Speaker 8 And I got him for like a very small signing bonus, and he took a chance, and now he's an important player for us.

Speaker 8 Jared Wilson, who made plays for us in the AFC playoff and is been our starting free safety out of Michigan, is another guy who came out on a really small guarantee and signed James Robinson out of Illinois State.

Speaker 5 Corey Grant.

Speaker 8 Corey Grant out of Auburn, who did really well against the Patriots in the playoffs and then had a career-ending injury. He's a great running back.

Speaker 8 I have done a lot of players out of secondary and a lot of running backs. Mike Hilton is a guy, Gus cut Mike Hilton.
Mike Hilton went on to be a very good player. I got him for like $5,000.

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Speaker 6 And now, more Tony Khan.

Speaker 5 Why, if we're talking Jaguars, let's talk this real quick. What's your problem? Why don't you like Blake Portals? I love Blake.
He's our best friend.

Speaker 8 Blake's my good friend. I love Blake.
And I've hung out with Blake at your guys' parties.

Speaker 5 He's our best friend.

Speaker 8 I've run into Blake at your guys' parties.

Speaker 5 Oh, yeah, look. There it is, right there.
Jags jersey. That's great.

Speaker 8 I know. I saw it.
I love Blake.

Speaker 8 Blake is great. Blake's one of the all-time leaders in NFL history.

Speaker 5 There we go. Yards per carry.
Yep. Let's go.

Speaker 5 I have tons of them. I love the boat.
I like that. Big boat guy.

Speaker 6 You passed that test. He's a good friend.

Speaker 6 He also, I mean, he technically won you guys in the AFC Championship game. Yeah.
Because the refs took that one.

Speaker 8 Miles Jack wasn't down. Miles Jack, he was not down.

Speaker 6 Are you going to get fine for saying that?

Speaker 5 Miles Jack wasn't down. There's like shirts, and he wasn't down.

Speaker 8 We have signs all over town. It's a fact.
Miles Jack wasn't down.

Speaker 5 Yep. No, he wasn't down.

Speaker 5 What's up with the pool? We've swam in the pool. It's great.

Speaker 8 Yeah. We've done it.
Use it for AEW, actually, in the Stadium Stampede in the pay-per-view.

Speaker 5 Okay.

Speaker 8 And we had Urban Meyer and Charlie Strong in the Stadium Stampede this year.

Speaker 5 Yeah, how'd that work with Urban Meyer doing the AEW stuff? Did you have to coach him up?

Speaker 8 Yeah, I mean, yeah, and he's my friend. So we were at work, and then that's like sometimes a crossing over.
I was in his office, and we're looking at the roster, and

Speaker 8 he, you know, we were getting ready to, he's packing up his briefcase, and I said, would you maybe do me a pretty big favor tomorrow? And he said, well, sure, what is it? And I told him what it is.

Speaker 8 Would you appear in the Stadium Stampede?

Speaker 8 And, you know, it'd be like you and Charlie are working in your office office late on sunday night and uh and and charlie's a huge wrestling fan so he's going to get a huge kick out of this man and then two of the top wrestlers chris jericho and mjf are going to brawl through your office while you're working and be like what the hell and we'll just improv a great scene and he was like yeah sure man and he came in urban's the best man and urban and charlie were happy to do it so it was a fun crossing over to the two things it's the second stadium stampede we've done and it was great i'm gonna be i'm gonna be respectful i have said some things about urban meyer I'm not going to say them in front of you because I think that would be disrespectful.

Speaker 5 Urban's great, man. Yeah,

Speaker 5 agree to disagree. But that's, see, that's respect.
That's just respect. Why do you have respect? Why don't you like Urban? Well, you don't want to do this.
Oh, no, I know.

Speaker 5 Apparently, I don't want to. I think Urban's.

Speaker 8 I don't want him.

Speaker 5 Maybe I don't. I love him.
I love him. I'll just say, like, he said that he's not going to say it.
Yeah, I would press you.

Speaker 5 I'm going to fucking say it.

Speaker 8 Instead of pressing you, look at it. Let me just get, let me have one.

Speaker 8 Can I take a parting shot and we'll walk away, which is this.

Speaker 5 And I think it's a good one because I know him really well now.

Speaker 8 And I didn't know him at all. And people get a reputation in life sometimes and it's not really fair.
And he's changed my life. And he's really like an awesome person.

Speaker 8 He's changed my life in the six months I've known him or whatever it is, five months. And he,

Speaker 8 the way he motivates people, and I know you're not going to want to hear it if you don't like him, but if you get to know him, there is something about him.

Speaker 8 And you wonder, why has this guy been so successful? He's one of the most successful coaches ever.

Speaker 5 I think he's a fantastic coach.

Speaker 8 But as a person, there's something. I'm just saying,

Speaker 8 if he came in here and you worked with him, you'd love him.

Speaker 6 I don't think we would like him.

Speaker 5 Yeah, he'd probably have my back if anything bad happened. He would.
He would have your back on anything.

Speaker 6 If he worked here, yeah.

Speaker 8 I'm saying, if you worked with Urban, you would love him.

Speaker 6 So does he actually think that he's in the military?

Speaker 5 Oh, no, he's great.

Speaker 6 Because he puts up these signs. I remember being at Ohio State.
So he's got signs up that says, you are a united state.

Speaker 5 Dude, I spent three years working with, God bless him.

Speaker 8 He's a great man, and I love him. I spent like three years working with Tom.
Like, it was way more like the military.

Speaker 5 That's honestly true. That's my point.
What was that like?

Speaker 6 Did you have to ask him if it was okay if you used the bathroom or is that just a business? Oh,

Speaker 8 Tom's also a very misunderstood, great person.

Speaker 8 And I really enjoyed him.

Speaker 8 And he, you know, he's been so successful, great coach, great man. But it was a lot more, like I said, that military theme was probably more prevalent with Tom than with Urban.

Speaker 6 Okay, so I'm actually interested because he just started working there. Urban, you have like a new relationship.
You're technically his boss.

Speaker 6 How far into the relationship?

Speaker 5 My dad's Urban's boss. Okay.

Speaker 8 My dad and Urban have a great relationship. I work with Urban.
My dad's Urban's boss.

Speaker 6 All right, so how does that work, though, like in terms of being a new head coach? Like, as an owner, are you like, you see him come in and you're like, hmm, 9.15 this morning?

Speaker 8 Interesting. Not at all.
No, and I'm not known for being like the morning.

Speaker 8 I work these crazy hours, but I work through the night all night. And so, you know, and Urban's a more early morning guy.

Speaker 8 In fact, it's gone the other way where I've pulled the all-nighter and Urban's coming in. So he's great.

Speaker 6 Did you ever have the discussion with him when you were drafting Trevor Lawrence that a long-haired quarterback has never won a Super Bowl?

Speaker 8 That's good question. No, I mean, that's the one.

Speaker 6 You're the analytics guy. You should have thought about it.

Speaker 5 You don't have to be biased?

Speaker 8 Are you biased? Are you a self-hating long-haired guy?

Speaker 6 No, I'm honestly just somebody that understands the history of football. And so you look back throughout every quarterback that's won a Super Bowl, you notice trends.
I'll put it this way.

Speaker 6 I would never draft me to play quarterback for my team in the NFL. I can recognize, I think I'm self-aware in that way.

Speaker 8 What if you just got a haircut to play quarterback?

Speaker 5 Good, yeah. John United

Speaker 8 haircut you can set your watch to.

Speaker 6 Yeah, exactly. But I mean, you can look at the analytics and be like, okay, the average hair length of every quarterback is usually somewhere between half an inch and one and a half inches.

Speaker 6 And there's actually like something to the fact that you can get tackled by your hair, too. It's easier to sack a quarterback with long hair.

Speaker 6 I'm just curious if those conversations took place behind the scenes. No.

Speaker 5 No, they didn't. What about, did you guys have any,

Speaker 5 was there ever a second where you're like, maybe we won't take Trevor Lawrence?

Speaker 8 That's a great question. I mean, you know, you just did the work Trent or GM Trent went through.
You did it. Like every player,

Speaker 8 you know, without reputation, go through. And Trent and Urban and everybody went through and went through all the quarterbacks and gave everybody a fair shake.

Speaker 5 I'm going to say something nice about Urban Meyer. I thought it was an awesome move that he hired Trent Balky because Jim Harbaugh hates Trent Balky and that was just sticking it to him a little more.

Speaker 8 We know Trent had been with us for about a year before. Okay, he was the interim.

Speaker 5 And I

Speaker 5 strike that from the record.

Speaker 8 He was the interim.

Speaker 5 He was the interim GM.

Speaker 5 Well,

Speaker 8 he did want to work with him though because they didn't know each other coming in, and they built a great relationship.

Speaker 5 Very good GM. He's great.
Yes.

Speaker 8 He had been our interim GM, and then

Speaker 8 we were hiring at the same time both jobs. Trent's great, too.

Speaker 6 Have you gotten a chance to talk to Tim Tebow yet?

Speaker 8 Yeah, of course. What's he like? Great guy.
What's he like? He's a really nice guy.

Speaker 5 Really like the nice guy. He's going to change your life.

Speaker 5 He's a motivator.

Speaker 8 They both are.

Speaker 8 I mean, mean, they really both are.

Speaker 8 And they're both really special people.

Speaker 8 Absolutely.

Speaker 6 Have you guys seen him play tight end yet?

Speaker 5 Yeah. How's he looking?

Speaker 8 He's good. He caught a pass just and he's really looking pretty lit.

Speaker 8 You know,

Speaker 8 it's

Speaker 8 a lot of reps in training camp, I would say this.

Speaker 8 For somebody coming in and playing the position after being off that long, you'd be shocked he's been out that long.

Speaker 6 Are you concerned that he's going to be too much of an alpha for Trevor Lawrence? So he's going to come in.

Speaker 6 I don't know if you saw the video clip, but on his first day at training camp, he was walking next to him, pats him hard on the back, grabs his hand, shakes it, pulls his hand over.

Speaker 6 Clearly, like body language, mentally, physically, alpha is Trevor Lawrence. Is that going to be an issue? No.
You want your quarterback to be the guy.

Speaker 8 Well, we have an alpha quarterback. Trevor's the man.

Speaker 5 Oh, Gardner Minshew.

Speaker 8 Oh, Gardner is great, too. Yeah.
Yeah, Gardner's a great guy. It's having a lot of alpha energy, I think, is a good thing.
And, you know, Trevor's the ultimate alpha.

Speaker 8 And so we have a great room, great bunch of, you know, really great bunch bunch of people. And Tim in the tight end room is adding something, I think.
So it'll be really interesting.

Speaker 8 But Trevor's doing great. We had, you know, our last full day of minicamp was yesterday, and Trevor tore it up, dude.

Speaker 5 Tore it up. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Let's talk some soccer real quick. So I own Swansea, you own Fulham.
You guys have come down to you got relegated. That sucked.

Speaker 5 How much did that suck? Because I went through my own relegation woes a couple years ago.

Speaker 5 It's painful, man. I'm here for you.

Speaker 8 Yeah, it's terrible. I didn't know.

Speaker 8 We've been having fun and making light of stuff, but I can't make light of that. It's the worst thing that's ever done.
Yeah, it sucks. Yeah, it sucks.
And going through it, it's really hard.

Speaker 5 What about the Super League? You guys, I noticed that Fulham came out and said that no Super League for us.

Speaker 5 You did release that statement after I released a statement saying no Super League for Swansea. So you're a little late, but that's okay.

Speaker 8 Well, what you would,

Speaker 8 I think, you know, timing-wise, I think we were two of the early statements, and I think it was a good thing to make a statement about early.

Speaker 5 What do you make of that whole thing, though? Because it's like we haven't had someone, you're in a unique spot that you own, co-own an American franchise, and

Speaker 5 there's only a few people who do this, and the other guys who have it were part of the Super League. So what did you make of the entire thing?

Speaker 8 Well, there are other American owners, I think, and there are not all the American owners who are involved with it. And, you know,

Speaker 8 these things happen in business.

Speaker 8 I don't think it's the end of the world and it got worked out pretty well and it's it's funny how it was the biggest story in sports for a couple days and it's completely dropped off the map now but

Speaker 8 you know

Speaker 8 it's at the it's in the past it's water under the bridge I think yeah um when are you guys moving the Jaguars to London come on no I especially I don't know if you've seen the stuff we're doing in Jacksonville

Speaker 6 I have it's it's it's been one of those narratives that's existed for the last like 10 years and it just it gets brought up all the time and I know that it's not true what was it like it was $100 million?

Speaker 6 How much money is like being invested in Jacksonville?

Speaker 8 I mean, a lot of money. It's a shitload of money.

Speaker 5 A ton of money, yeah.

Speaker 6 More money than I can count is being put into Jacksonville. So it's not true.
But did those rumors, like, because they were persistent. They've been persistent.
They've been around.

Speaker 6 At least since like 2012, as far as I can remember, did they ever get to anybody in the building? Or is it something that you had to clearly communicate to everyone, hey.

Speaker 6 Just so you know, we're not moving the team. How often did you have to say that to people?

Speaker 8 I think, I mean, you get asked it on a weekly basis back in the day, but now this is the first time I've been asked in a long time, honestly, because especially because the headlines about all the great stuff we're doing in Jacksonville.

Speaker 8 I mean, Jacksonville has been a great home for us. Like, you know, I living there through the pandemic,

Speaker 8 it's been, you know, I've worked out at the stadium and doing everything out of there, and it's been great.

Speaker 8 And, you know, being able to stay engaged with the Jaguars, but also it's been a great home for AEW.

Speaker 8 And, like, the first, you know, AEW, we started bringing fans back and doing live shows in August and safely. Like, we've been doing shows since August outdoor.

Speaker 8 We started at 25% in our, you know, 5,000-seat amphitheater. So we would have crowds.
I think we started at 20%. We would do like 1,000 and upped it to 25.
It was like 1250.

Speaker 8 The Jags then, a couple weeks later, when NFL started, the Jags and the Chiefs were the only teams in the NFL that had fans week one. Yeah.

Speaker 8 And like, and we Jags went the whole season, no transmissions.

Speaker 8 So doing these outdoor shows, you know, it was great. I don't, did either of you guys go to the national championship game or the Super Bowl?

Speaker 5 We went to the National Championship game. It was great, right?

Speaker 5 Wait, no, it was a year ago. Oh, sorry.
The last one before COVID.

Speaker 5 So you didn't go to either of the big COVID championships?

Speaker 8 No, no. I was in both in Florida.
They were great. Both great live event experiences.

Speaker 8 And so people have been putting on my philosophy early in the pandemic when our competitor was not doing any live shows with fans and went with virtual fans. I kind of went the other way.

Speaker 8 And I had, I pushed back a little bit on the idea of virtual fans because I wanted to get, I knew it was possible to do shows.

Speaker 8 If we were outdoors in this amphitheater in Florida, we should be able to get like 25%, like a drive-in movie theater is what I said. That's awesome.
And I was like, let's bring it back.

Speaker 8 And we were the first ones to do it. This whole time, we've had fans, and we were doing pay-per-views with like all through the pandemic for over a year with like.
1,250 people.

Speaker 8 And it's like, yeah, it's not the full 5,000, but it's like 25%. It still resembles a, you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 It's a wrestling show. You get the environment of having fans.

Speaker 6 The same like dynamic.

Speaker 8 And like, it was hard watching, you know,

Speaker 8 other people were watching, you know, people up on a Jumbotron, like, you know, in little boxes. And it's like, it's not the same.
And the crowd noise being piped in is not the same.

Speaker 8 So, but there's nothing like the packed houses. And we're going back to that here in July.
We're doing this tour.

Speaker 8 You know, we've got Road Raiser in Miami. We got two weeks of Fighter Fest in Austin and Dallas.
And then Fight for the Fallen, which is this show.

Speaker 8 We always give money back to charity and do a different charity every year. And that's in Charlotte.
And it's like our tour back full arenas.

Speaker 8 I've been in Jacksonville for over over a year and the fans in Jacksonville, like it turned into like an old school like 70s, 80s wrestling territory. That's sick.

Speaker 5 What's if you had to flash forward like 10 years from now, what would be success for AEW? What would be like, hey, we did this?

Speaker 8 It would be that we, you know, I think maintaining, first of all, lasting and keeping a show going and then, you know, debuting another show this year,

Speaker 8 like if both shows are really strong, if Dynamite and Rampage are both really strong shows 10 years from now, hopefully even stronger than now, I would be so proud.

Speaker 5 Are you worried, though, a little bit that like the best pay-per-view names have already been taken?

Speaker 8 I have the best pay-per-view by me. I have the best pay-per-view of that.
We don't, because I don't do 76 pay-per-views. So I have four big pay-per-views instead of like, you know, 29.

Speaker 8 So there's quarterly, like the big, yeah, right. So we have Memorial Day weekend.
We do Double or Nothing, which we just had.

Speaker 5 Okay, I like it. It's Vegas.

Speaker 8 MGM brand sold it out. Fastest sellout in Vegas wrestling history.
Double or nothing? Double or nothing, Vegas-themed.

Speaker 8 We just had to do it in Jacksonville, but we still have the big poker chips and stuff. And it was first wrestling pay-per-view packed house since

Speaker 8 the light at the end of the tunnel or the day.

Speaker 8 And it was so sick. We just had it Memorial Day weekend.
And then

Speaker 8 every

Speaker 8 you'll appreciate this, dude. Every Labor Day weekend, we do a show in Hoffman Estates around Schaumburg at what the now arena used to be the Sears Center.

Speaker 5 Yeah, where the sky used to play. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Yeah, yeah. Yep.
We do that every, and that's.

Speaker 5 Oh, actually, no, that's where the

Speaker 5 bulls play, the G-League Bulls plays play. The G-League Bulls play there, yeah, yeah, that's, yes, yes, the, yes, that is where they play, yeah.

Speaker 8 And uh, there's also, there's other, yeah, there's other stuff out there, too. But anyway, it's, it's, it's, now it's, it used to be called the Sears Center, now it's called, I think, the Now Arena.

Speaker 8 Um, and so we do like a fan, we're doing a fan fest and a pay-per-view there.

Speaker 5 It's called All Out. All Out.
Okay.

Speaker 5 I was going double or nothing one, all out, two, just right now.

Speaker 6 They kind of sound like no fear shirts from back in the 90s.

Speaker 6 Fear tastes like chicken.

Speaker 8 Well, I think you're going to like

Speaker 8 the next one, which is then in November,

Speaker 8 this one I'm doing on a Saturday because why in November I'm not going to go up against Sunday night football? I'm not crazy. Against my own product.

Speaker 8 Just head-to-head with my own product.

Speaker 6 Well, the Jaguars are probably flexed out of that.

Speaker 8 Well, I think we'll be doing so. I think, you know, we could be.

Speaker 5 I'm kidding.

Speaker 6 We are jagging off. We love the Jaguars.
Yes, we do. But we also miss dearly the Thursday night games against the Titans.

Speaker 8 Well, we'll see. Hey, they could be some big games against the Titans this year.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Yeah, you were saying.

Speaker 8 The Thursday thing was a great tradition, though. It's been a great tradition.
But anyway, yeah. So back to what we were saying before I got started.
So Full Gear is what we do in November. Full gear.

Speaker 8 Full gear. Fucking, it's great.
You got the big,

Speaker 8 if you saw the set, it's so cool. The full gear set is

Speaker 8 dope. And then we come back.
It's like every four years is a leap day.

Speaker 8 We did the first one on a leap day. So, you know, you can't say leap day, but give or take, like the end of February or the first weekend in March, do Revolution.

Speaker 5 Okay. Revolution's fire.

Speaker 8 Okay. Revolution's a dope show.
And so we got Revolution, Double or Nothing, all out in full gear.

Speaker 5 Okay.

Speaker 5 Yeah, all right. That's okay.
I was just thinking, like, WrestleMania, the name WrestleMania. Like, you can't really beat that.
But those are good. I'm going to give you credit.
Those are good.

Speaker 5 I had one other soccer question.

Speaker 8 Hey, I'll tell you something one thing. Yeah.
Double or nothing last year and this year,

Speaker 8 my opinion was a better show.

Speaker 8 The pandemic.

Speaker 5 Unbiased opinion.

Speaker 8 You know what? As objective opinion, I think it was, and I liked this year's WrestleMania a lot better than last year's because they had some fans this year and

Speaker 8 everyone there worked their ass off both ears. But this year, both, I think, good shows.
They did a two-night show and it was a good show.

Speaker 8 I thought Double or Nothing this year was outstanding and it was the best wrestling show of the year so far.

Speaker 8 And last year, Double or Nothing in the pandemic, it kicked the shit out of WrestleMania last year.

Speaker 8 Like the pandemic version last year, not even close. Double or nothing, much better show.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it was weird watching with no fans. All right, so one last soccer question.
You obviously do analytics for football. Is there analytics for soccer? And what does it look like? Of course, yeah.

Speaker 5 But what is it, like kick it more into the goal?

Speaker 8 As a SWATSE owner, I'm sure you can.

Speaker 5 Well, yeah, I know. It's more of a trick question.
It's a huge.

Speaker 8 Oh, yes.

Speaker 8 It's a huge community, the soccer analytics community, the European football analytics community. So there's companies.
Opta is a big company in the data tracking space.

Speaker 8 There's tons of information they provide and you can learn about this and create VORP metrics like in baseball.

Speaker 5 What's the new age like strategy? Like say the

Speaker 5 analogy to teams throwing, not running the ball as much and throwing on first down or analogy to like teams saying OBP means more than batting average in baseball.

Speaker 5 What's the thing in soccer that you can point to and like, oh, this is what they're doing different and it's kind of working.

Speaker 8 I mean, there's a lot of, I think people do a lot of work on set pieces now.

Speaker 8 And in addition to a lot of work on set pieces, I think there's a lot of stylistic analytics, but I think it's a lot of it's just player evaluation.

Speaker 8 Like, people are using analytics for player evaluation and scouting, and it's, you know, it's big. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Is it that short corner on the ground that everyone's hitting right now? Is that a result of the analytics?

Speaker 8 I mean, there's some because like they, you know, I think people have plays and trying to get people like from there, getting people up into the box or trying to create a different angle.

Speaker 8 But there's some reasons why people do that. And sometimes if they just, that can be like a like

Speaker 8 checking out of a play.

Speaker 6 What about having a guy on the team that bites people?

Speaker 6 I feel like that's hot in soccer.

Speaker 8 That's not good.

Speaker 8 That is not good. I feel like that's that hopefully more.
It happens every once in a while.

Speaker 5 But hopefully it does happen.

Speaker 6 Isn't that weird to say, though? Like, it's a pretty common occurrence in soccer that somebody will bite somebody.

Speaker 8 I don't think it's a common occurrence.

Speaker 6 What's happened like there's like four or five

Speaker 6 notable times in the last couple years.

Speaker 8 Well, Suarez, I think it was like at least eight years ago.

Speaker 5 The one there was one yesterday. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 So so it's like you're scratching like zero days yeah right

Speaker 8 yes i got one uh one other like fan safety question you're talking about the pandemic stuff but in terms of fan safety did you guys take any measures to like put a fence around the jaguar statue after that kid got his head stuck in it no but i you know what's funny is i go by that statue going into work like every day and like i never once never once in my life have i ever thought like in the thousands of times i've walked by that never did i think put your head in there i don't know why anybody was.

Speaker 5 It's the funniest picture. I love it so, so much.

Speaker 6 How'd they get that kid out? Did they call the fire department?

Speaker 5 No, I think he's dead. No, no, he's not dead.

Speaker 5 His body's fine. He's fine.
It's like he can't make it. Yeah, no, that picture is.
I think they might have. I went and studied it when we were there.

Speaker 5 I think they shaved the teeth a little bit so that it wouldn't happen anymore.

Speaker 6 Does that Jaguar have a name?

Speaker 8 I've never named it. I think he needs to be.
Touchdown. Touchdown.
Touchdown. His name is Touchdown.

Speaker 5 What's the name of the mascot again? Jackson Deville. Jackson Deville.
Jackson Devil.

Speaker 8 Last year, the The stadium stampede, Jackson Deville ate a Judas effect from Chris Jericho.

Speaker 5 Okay.

Speaker 6 Jackson Deville, I think, is the best mascot. If you have to have a mascot, which I don't think that NFL teams should have a nickname or a mascot, it's kind of candy-ass.

Speaker 6 But if you have to have one, I think Jackson Deville is the way to go. That's great.

Speaker 8 Yeah, I appreciate it.

Speaker 5 It's kind of candy-ass.

Speaker 6 Have you thought about renaming your team the

Speaker 6 Jacksonville football team?

Speaker 8 No, because there's only, you know, that's your football team's name.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it is. It's true.
Yeah, the Jaguars are cool.

Speaker 8 Yeah, Jaguars is dope. I think it's great.
It's a great time to be a Jags fan.

Speaker 5 Yeah. All right.
It actually is a great time to be a Jags fan. Buy in now.

Speaker 5 Well, Tony, this has been awesome. We appreciate it.
Thanks. I am going to try to start watching more wrestling.
Again,

Speaker 5 I'm the guy you're probably trying to capture, the guy who loves the concept of wrestling. It is still real to me.

Speaker 5 And then, you know, just trying to get back into it, find my way back into it.

Speaker 8 That's exactly what you are

Speaker 8 exactly the kind of person we're trying to capture. I would love it if you'd please watch more wrestling.

Speaker 5 Okay, and then Arthur Ash, you promised there's a roof? There's a roof. Okay.
Well, I'll look into that.

Speaker 6 That's the place that's got the chicken tenders you can dip into the Coke.

Speaker 5 It's where George Costanza is. Maybe I'll come.
Maybe I'll come. Yeah.
Out by LaGuardia? Yeah, you can pull a. Bobby Valentine once saw a UFO out there.
No joke.

Speaker 8 Just don't pull a Costanza and get caught on TV.

Speaker 5 Or do.

Speaker 5 That would actually be great for my brand.

Speaker 5 All right, well, Tony, this has been awesome, man. We really appreciate it.
Everyone, check out AEW.

Speaker 5 Don't have to tell people to watch NFL because they all do. And then Fulham coming back up.
Swansea Swansea and Fulham's making a deal right now. We'll both be up next year.

Speaker 8 Let's get the auto promotions going. Yes.
Hopefully, we don't end up in the playoff and

Speaker 5 what happened with Swansea. Yeah, that was bad.

Speaker 8 Yeah, you know, we've had good. That was, they had a great season, and, you know, they're going to be one of the tough teams for us to play this year.
And, you know, looking into it,

Speaker 8 that playoff is tough. You know,

Speaker 8 the three seasons that I've been with the team, the three seasons that I've been the director of football and run the player acquisitions and transfers, we've actually been in the playoff every year that I've done it, and we've won it two out of the three times.

Speaker 8 Wow. So if we do go,

Speaker 8 the playoff is there to be won, but I hopefully we'll get the auto promotion. We'll work really hard to do it.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 Love it. Cool.
All right. Thanks, Tony.
Thank you. Thanks for having me.

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And now for something completely different.

Speaker 5 Okay, we now welcome on very special guest. It is the greatest baseball player of all time.
Over a 10-game period, right? Is that not true?

Speaker 10 I guess it's true, yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah, it's Patrick Wisdom from the Chicago Cubs.

Speaker 5 I love him. He is here in studio.
They're playing the Mets.

Speaker 5 So we're going to probably run this later on next week. Let's start there.

Speaker 5 I saw you in the hallway and I mentioned it to you, but you guys played against Jacob DeGrom last night. Just how much does that suck?

Speaker 5 Like actually put it into perspective for the regular fan how different it is going up against DeGrom versus everyone else.

Speaker 10 Yeah, it was a major suck.

Speaker 10 He shoved it last night. It's like going into a test knowing you're going to fail.

Speaker 10 There's nothing you can do. He's just going to overpower you and you're going to walk back to the dugout saying, I don't know what I'm doing out here.

Speaker 6 Just answer C every time, and maybe one out of every four times it'll be right, right? You got to, like, sit on one pitch. So, a guy like that,

Speaker 6 is there just one pitch that you're waiting for? You're like, maybe I'll get a slider that doesn't break.

Speaker 10 Yeah, or it's maybe the 100-mile-an-hour fastball that you try to hit. But, I mean, the first pitch I barely even saw.
Like, it hit the glove.

Speaker 5 Really? Yeah, it was. Like, you can't, you don't even, because it's that fast and that much movement.

Speaker 10 It explodes out of his hand, and like, it gains speed as it gets to the glove.

Speaker 5 Jesus.

Speaker 10 It was something I've never seen before, obviously.

Speaker 5 But that's terrifying.

Speaker 6 Yes.

Speaker 5 I guess the scouting reporters just hope he has to leave with some kind of cramp or something, even though that's the craziest part is how good he's been. And he's also been injured every other day.

Speaker 5 Right.

Speaker 5 So for people who don't know your story, I obviously know it because I watched the Cubs and I'm a Cubs fan, but you were a first-round draft pick for the Cardinals in 2012, basically fighting your way through the minors, never really got your big break.

Speaker 5 Then you come up, the Cubs have been injured this year, you come up this year, and you've lit the world on fire. So you hit nine home runs in 10 games.
Is that right? Yeah, nine home runs in 10 games.

Speaker 5 Been hitting everything.

Speaker 5 Like, it's got to be,

Speaker 5 we're in day, I don't know, like 20 or something of this.

Speaker 5 Have you been able to settle down and be like, holy shit, like, I'm here and I'm doing this?

Speaker 10 A little bit, yeah. Sometimes I catch myself thinking that out in the field, honestly.
It's probably not a good place to do it, but, you know, just taking it all in, and

Speaker 10 I mean, it's pretty special, honestly. Yeah, like something I didn't really dream of, and just kind of happened.

Speaker 6 Now that you're on the Cubs, you can admit, like, you always hated St. Louis, right?

Speaker 10 I might get some flack from the St. Louis fans, but I mean, they treated me well there, too.
So, no, do it.

Speaker 5 You can admit it. It's okay.

Speaker 6 No one in St. Louis listens to the show.

Speaker 6 We banned the entire city several years ago.

Speaker 5 Yes.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I mean, Wrigley's sick. The fans there are really cool.

Speaker 5 Way better than the Cardinals fans, yeah. Agreed.

Speaker 10 I would say it's, yeah, it's a lot louder. Yup.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 10 I mean, you got the beer cup snake, too. I mean,

Speaker 10 you got the bleachers.

Speaker 5 It's tough to compete with that.

Speaker 6 And they know when to applaud, too, when to cheer. In St.
Louis, sometimes they're all over the place. You know, they'll clap for some stuff that doesn't really deserve applause.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 5 You know what I'm saying? Yeah, fair point. Yes.

Speaker 6 You said it, not me.

Speaker 6 I'm curious to know where you stand because we have to talk spider tack. Actually, I've got some spider tack right here.
Oh, look at that. Do you like what you see?

Speaker 5 Don't touch it. Don't touch some of this.

Speaker 5 Then you could get in trouble if you like shake, you know, Kyle Hendricks' hand or something.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it's actually got like tree nuts in it. So if somebody's allergic to sesame seeds or whatever, it can kill them.

Speaker 5 Oh, that's something basic.

Speaker 6 Nut allergy. Yeah, nut allergy, bad nut allergy.
Are you do you follow on the side of like the pitchers are using certain substances for control and to get a better grip?

Speaker 6 And as a hitter, that's actually beneficial to you.

Speaker 6 Are you like, have you noticed over the course of the last few years, like there's been a difference in how pitches are moving out of certain guys' hands.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I mean, I'm all for the control aspect. You know, no one wants to get hit with a fastball or anything like that.
And then,

Speaker 10 but I think if you're using it to like manipulate the ball, and I mean, you've seen some sliders that look like a whiffle ball. It's like trying to hit a whiffleball in the backyard.

Speaker 10 You're good luck, you know?

Speaker 10 So

Speaker 10 I'm all for it if it's going to be for control and

Speaker 10 trying to throw strikes. I'm all for it because as an infielder trying to throw a ball with no grip, that sucks too.
So I get that part of it.

Speaker 10 You know, if you get a ground ball and the ball is kind of slick and it's like throwing a cue ball to first base and it's not fun.

Speaker 5 Which is what you, whenever you get a ground ball, that's what it feels like because the Cubs don't cheat. So that was a smart way of saying that because there's nothing on the ball.

Speaker 5 So

Speaker 5 like your

Speaker 5 story is great. It's very baseball, like, you know, having your big break when you're 29.
Is it weird in the clubhouse? Like, how do you get treated?

Speaker 5 Because you're not a rookie, but you also haven't had like, you you know, this long career, but you're also producing really well. Was there a moment where you felt comfortable?

Speaker 5 Like, hey, I can bust balls, or has

Speaker 5 that not happened yet?

Speaker 10 Oh, yeah, I think it happened day one when I came in and Rizzo busted my balls for being in the cage.

Speaker 10 And so it just kind of.

Speaker 5 You're practicing?

Speaker 10 Yeah, well, like, I wasn't playing, so I was trying to just, like, you know, fit in my routine, and the guys are playing that day, and I'm just like waiting to hit.

Speaker 10 And, you know, next thing I know, like an hour goes by because everyone else has to hit. And then Rizzo's like, you're still in here? Like, just busting my balls for it.
Yeah.

Speaker 10 And it breaks the ice right away. And so from then on, it's just been, I feel like I'm one of the boys.

Speaker 5 I love that. I love that.

Speaker 6 Do you have any superstitions? We love weird baseball superstitions. I think my favorite was that one postseason where everybody just showed up wearing those fighting necklaces.

Speaker 5 Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Do you have Vinny Fighting Necklaces?

Speaker 10 I did. Yeah, those are collecting dust somewhere, though.
I don't know where. Did they work?

Speaker 5 Some games. Yeah.

Speaker 5 That's the thing. If you hit a home run, it was definitely a fighting necklace.
For sure.

Speaker 6 But do you have anything that you do in particular?

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 10 I mean, sure. I got this one.

Speaker 10 So if I'm doing good or if I'm on a good little spell, I don't wash my jockstrap.

Speaker 5 Okay. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 6 Dude, rock. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 So wait, that means you haven't washed your jockstrap yet.

Speaker 5 Right? Like,

Speaker 5 right?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Like, do the mat.
Yeah. You're on an all-time heater right now.
I think you've had to get it. I think the hottest take that for what it is.

Speaker 6 Is it the hottest start to any career in baseball history?

Speaker 5 It's like 1941. I saw someone like that.
You were one of the only guys to ever do this where it's like nine home runs in 10 games. Yeah.

Speaker 10 I mean, yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 10 I don't even know what was going on. So I was just

Speaker 5 the ball looks bigger

Speaker 6 when you're on a hot streak, when you're in the zone. Has the ball actually looked bigger to you?

Speaker 10 Yeah, in some bats for sure.

Speaker 10 But it's just more like you're comfortable up there. You're not worried about getting beat.

Speaker 10 You just know that something's going to happen.

Speaker 6 What's the lamest newspaper headline that you've ever seen that's incorporated your last name poorly into it?

Speaker 5 Good question. Yeah, that is a good question.

Speaker 6 Because I feel like if you played in the 40s or 50s, there would be some real stinkers.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 10 I mean, I think the one that gets used the most is like Daily Wisdom, you know?

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Daily, that's good.

Speaker 10 That's just very repetitive, but.

Speaker 6 Age before wisdom.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Maybe.
So the stat was

Speaker 5 eight home runs in 10 games was it's a ties the record for most by any player in his first 10 games with a team since 1900.

Speaker 5 So that's pretty, and then I love this quote from Ian Hap, who is a friend of ours. He says,

Speaker 5 the guy has seven pumps already, and he hasn't been here that long. I just like calling home runs pumps.
Pumps, baby. That's great.

Speaker 5 Your first one on on the Cubs, did I not remember? Did they not give you like, I mean, that wasn't your first career home run, but did they do any superstitious, like, not, you know, high-five you?

Speaker 5 I love when that happens. Yeah, I do.
Did that happen in your first home run?

Speaker 10 No, I kind of wish it did, though. Yeah.

Speaker 5 That'd be kind of cool. You got robbed.

Speaker 10 I did, yeah, in that sense.

Speaker 5 Yeah. That's the best when everyone ignores you in the dugout and it's like very, very funny and you're set to stand there like fuck.

Speaker 6 Yeah, did you actually feel like, I don't know, left out, like not one of the guys because they didn't punk you?

Speaker 10 I felt left out out because, you know, all these protocols. I was in a different locker room when I showed up.
Oh, really? So, yeah, it was just me. I was just by myself in this other locker room.

Speaker 6 Like Barry Bonds.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I just felt kind of left out. And then, yeah, I got thrown into the fire and hit a homer.
Then everyone was my friend again.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Yeah.
Like, hey, we need you back in this locker room. Yeah, that's the fastest way to get it done.

Speaker 6 Have you ever thought about getting in in a late inning game when you guys are up on a 13, 14 runs and pitching?

Speaker 10 I love that. That's literally on my bucket list.

Speaker 5 You can't do that, though, because that's Rizzo's thing. Like, he loves doing that.
I know.

Speaker 10 But if I beat him to the mound, maybe then I'll.

Speaker 6 Yeah. Yeah.
Who's got better stuff?

Speaker 10 I mean, he has an inning in the big leagues. I don't.

Speaker 5 I think he's two. Two.
Yeah.

Speaker 10 He struck out Freddie Freeman and, you know, an MVP.

Speaker 5 So

Speaker 10 I don't have that on my stat line.

Speaker 5 And also, he's best friends with David Ross, so that kind of.

Speaker 10 Yeah, he's kind of in there. Yeah.

Speaker 6 What's in your arsenal? What do you have? You got a slider? You got a knuckleball?

Speaker 5 Yeah, I got it all. Okay.

Speaker 10 You know, as position players, we love to to play catch, you know, before the games and stuff, and then it just turns into like a little bullpen session and see what we can throw, see what works, see what doesn't work.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Was there ever a point in your career that you were like close to saying, I'm done? Like, I'm going to quit?

Speaker 10 I never thought about quitting. I thought maybe about pitching.
Like, hey, I know I have a good arm. Like, let's see if I can.

Speaker 5 Oh, really? Like,

Speaker 5 you think you could throw that

Speaker 5 hard?

Speaker 10 What's that hard?

Speaker 5 Like, below 90s? Yeah, no. No, I can't.

Speaker 10 I've hit above 90 for sure. Really? Yeah.

Speaker 5 Okay, so you should pitch. You should do, I mean, Shohei Osho.

Speaker 10 Yeah, he's on another level.

Speaker 5 That would be pretty sick. But there wasn't ever, like, because it is, you know, baseball is, there's no sport like it in that if you get drafted first round, any other sport, you're playing.

Speaker 5 I mean, maybe hockey a little bit, but like you're playing right away.

Speaker 5 You know what I mean? And baseball, it's a grind and you're, you know, up and down and down and up. Right.
So there was never a point where you're like, man, like, is this going to ever break for me?

Speaker 5 Like, is this ever going to work out for me?

Speaker 10 Yeah, I mean, those thoughts happen. They come through your head like, dang, like, when am I, when am I going to get there? When am I going to get my chance?

Speaker 10 But at the end of the day, I was still putting food on the table for my family. And like, it was a cool gig.
Being a AAA is fun. You get to go to cool cities.

Speaker 10 You're with the boys in the clubhouse and on the road. And I mean, it's a ton of fun.

Speaker 5 I also read that

Speaker 5 you did like some kind of like positive vibes thinking something. You read a book and you're like, change your life?

Speaker 10 Yeah, I mean, i guess like an aha moment but yeah just like we just do positive vibes tell us that can you explain that to us we would love to get into no it's just like just perspective just like how you see things and like what you what you take from what you see you know so how do you know i don't i honestly don't like i always see like when i'm watching a game i'm like here comes the loss yeah so like obviously i think that too i'm like oh we're we're down like we're probably gonna lose but like if i can walk away from my bad or like what i did with a positive like thought thought, then it helps me tomorrow or the next day or I can go to sleep, you know?

Speaker 10 Rather, I'm not like dwelling on like, oh shit, I'm 0 for 10.

Speaker 6 All right, let me give you a scenario.

Speaker 6 You strike out,

Speaker 6 the count is one and two.

Speaker 6 Pitch comes in, you foul tip it, third pitch comes in, you swing and you miss. You walk back to the dugout.
How are you spin zoning that?

Speaker 6 Or are you like, well, at least I made contact on that one pitch?

Speaker 10 Well, it'd be like if the pitch was in the zone,

Speaker 10 did I swing? Did I swing at a pitch I wanted to swing at?

Speaker 6 You swung at a strike. Yeah.
As opposed, yeah, okay.

Speaker 10 Or as opposed to like chasing a 50-footer, you know, that bounces before the plate or pitch over my head, which I've, you know, I've done in the past.

Speaker 10 So then you walk back and you're like, gosh, you're so stupid. You know, like, what are you swinging at?

Speaker 10 You're saying the same things the fans are saying to you, you know, in your head, you're like, what are you swinging at?

Speaker 5 So positive. So it's fine.
You have to find

Speaker 6 one thing that's positive about even the most negative interaction that you have.

Speaker 10 Yeah, just because, I mean, especially in this game, it's so negative.

Speaker 10 Like, you're going to fail 70% of the time, and then you're gonna be good like yeah if you fail 70 of the time you're probably a hall of famer which is crazy to think about right in any other like sector of life that that doesn't happen you're you're probably fired yeah so it's just being able to like wrap your head around that perspective and like just enjoy it's a game i'm gonna try to start doing that

Speaker 5 it's not like like you know it's i showered today yeah just there you go positive thought there you go yeah what'd you do pft i i showered my body yeah not your hair not my hair all right but that's okay that's so your hair every day.

Speaker 5 You can't wash your hair every day, and you know what?

Speaker 6 You can't win them all. So you got to...
I can't dwell on that, big cat. I got to look forward to the next opportunity to wash my hair.

Speaker 5 You just move on.

Speaker 6 Yeah, you just put on a baseball cap and then you go to work. There you go.

Speaker 5 I have one last question. What's your...

Speaker 5 You're not going to like this question, but what's your...

Speaker 5 Are you a free agent after this year, right?

Speaker 10 If the Cubs take me off the roster, I'll be a free agent.

Speaker 5 Got it. Okay, because I was going to say, what's it like knowing that

Speaker 5 Ricketts is totally going to cut all all the costs and not sign any of Javi or Rizzo or Chris Bryan? So you probably are going to benefit from that.

Speaker 10 I could benefit from that if that were the case.

Speaker 10 I mean, I hope they don't.

Speaker 10 It'd be cool to come back next year and play with all those guys.

Speaker 5 Is it fun playing with Javi at short? He's got so much swag.

Speaker 10 Oh, my gosh. It's like, I'm wishing some swag would come over to me.
But yeah, it's incredible he does. I mean, the play he made yesterday was really tight.

Speaker 6 Were you in the dugout when that play against the pirates happened when you chased them all the way? Like, he lured them back to home plate? Yeah.

Speaker 6 What was that like in the dugout as he was just making a clown of an entire franchise?

Speaker 10 I think we were all mind-blown, too.

Speaker 6 Like, what just happened? Because he's doing that.

Speaker 10 Then he called him the runner at home safe.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Yeah.
And then he was like, oh, I got to run to first. Ran to first, called himself safe, and then ran to second.

Speaker 5 It was also one of those plays that you like start questioning whether you know the rules. Like, I was like, do I know the rules? Like, what just happened here?

Speaker 10 Like, wait a second. Like,

Speaker 5 how is that possible? I didn't think you could run backwards to home.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I thought he was, like, automatically out.

Speaker 5 Same. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Yeah. If you reverse course going from home to first, you're automatically out.
But then it's like, no, he just found a way to do it.

Speaker 6 Like, at any point, the first baseman could have just been like, you know what? I'm tired of chasing. I'm going to walk back to first baseman.

Speaker 5 That's all I had to do. Into the inning.

Speaker 10 End of the ending, no run scored, nothing. Right.

Speaker 6 Did he say anything to you after he got, after he, like, rejoined rejoined the team? Was he like, holy shit, I can't believe they actually followed me to Hope Wait?

Speaker 10 Pretty much, yeah. Like, what were they doing?

Speaker 5 Like, what were they thinking?

Speaker 10 Um, but I think that was just a fiasco. Like, no one knew what to do, and it like mind blew everybody.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Oh, here's a quick headline we'll make before we go.
If you were asked to do the home run derby, will you do it? Oh, heck yeah. Okay, so there we go.
Perfect.

Speaker 5 Patrick Wilson says that he would do the home run derby. Yeah.
That's all we need. That's just a headline we'll throw out there.

Speaker 6 And if you get in, you have to beat Christian Yelich. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Well, he's in it.

Speaker 5 Good response. Response.
Probably not. He's it like

Speaker 6 that. Well, he's not bad.
Don't want to say that. No, we don't want motivation.

Speaker 5 We have a.

Speaker 6 I have to eat Big Cat's ass, and he has to eat my ass.

Speaker 5 If Christian Yelich ever wins the home run derby.

Speaker 6 It's one of those things that you say just in the moment.

Speaker 5 We've had him on a bunch.

Speaker 6 There's never be a scenario, but he's a very good guy.

Speaker 5 He is, yeah. And

Speaker 5 it was like probably three years ago, and he was like, yeah, I got a home run swing. This was before he won his MVP.
I was like, no, you fucking don't.

Speaker 5 and then he's like yeah i can hit home runs and we're like all right well if you ever win the home run derby we'll eat each other's asses and now we're like

Speaker 10 like your two buds yeah yeah

Speaker 6 figure out a way to we

Speaker 5 didn't know if christian was in on this uh no he's just sitting there he just tortures us every now and then he'll like remind us but then he hurt his back last year or the year before so he had to be pull out

Speaker 5 and then last year obviously there wasn't a home run derby so we're just yeah it's just a ticking time bomb for us i think we dodged a bullet on that one it would be incredible to watch us walk.

Speaker 10 I feel like Big Cat thinks it's going to happen.

Speaker 5 No, I'm still nervous.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 5 Dodge the bullet. Oh, I'm still very nervous.

Speaker 6 I think that its time has passed. I'm not.

Speaker 6 There was, like, to be totally honest with you, there was about a 30-day period where we had to plan out how we were going to eat each other's ass. We're going to maybe actually

Speaker 5 gave a piece of skin off.

Speaker 6 Yeah, we're going to mix it in with chili or something like that.

Speaker 5 Cannibalism. Yeah, but I mean, if you have to pick a way to do it,

Speaker 6 that's the only way that you can look yourself in the mirror.

Speaker 5 Like, I'd never be able to visit a dentist after that yeah every problem that comes up i just automatically think well that must be from big cats yeah cannibal i i am still nervous because i do think that like you know how a player would be like i still have things left to prove i think that's all he has left to prove yeah what if he knows he's like all right i got one or two years left yeah right give me in the derby yeah like i'm not even gonna play in the season i'm just gonna play in the derby major league baseball

Speaker 6 would probably do that to get ratings yeah oh yeah like knowing that that's what was on the line so um there was like a half second when you said that you would compete.

Speaker 6 I was about to say something really stupid, but I didn't because I've learned from the catch and yellow stab. Just going to root for you.
So just go. I hope you win it.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Thank you.

Speaker 5 Also, do you still do you respect 90 still?

Speaker 10 Respect 90? Yeah.

Speaker 5 Miles an hour? No, running to first base. Running, you always respect 90? Yeah.
Just want to make sure. Okay.
Yeah. I don't want to see you not respect 90.

Speaker 10 No, you got to respect it. At any point.

Speaker 5 You got it. Okay.
Like if you hit one into the gap, but you think it's gone and you maybe not run so hard hard out of the box and not respecting 90,

Speaker 10 I'm going to be pissed. I mean, you can't lead the league in doubles stopping at first.

Speaker 5 Right, there it is. That's a great point.
That's a great point.

Speaker 10 Because if you still get thrown out of second, you still get a base hit.

Speaker 5 That's true. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Do you ever give a sprint to first base on a walk?

Speaker 10 I haven't done that, no.

Speaker 5 Do it. Do it.
Okay, if I walk against the base. Next one.

Speaker 6 Just do it one time. Do it on Sunday night baseball.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Or no, tonight, if you walk against the Mets, which will even be better because no one, this isn't going to come out until next week.
So then we'll do a callback.

Speaker 5 People are like, why'd he do that? Like, now this is out. Here's why.

Speaker 6 That goes a long way with the old beat writers. They'll be like, it'll be great.
You know what? He plays the game the right way.

Speaker 5 Yes, that would be great. That would be great.
Okay.

Speaker 5 All right. Well, this has been awesome, man.
You're welcome back anytime. Recurring guest.
Thank you. Keep hitting home runs.
It's fucking sick.

Speaker 5 What was the longest one you've hit?

Speaker 10 In your entire career. Oh, in my entire career? Yeah.
Like 460-something.

Speaker 5 I think they lie, by the way. I think so, too.
There are times when a guy will hit one into like out of the park or like, like, if you hit one out of Wrigley and they're like, yeah, that was 4,

Speaker 5 you know, 67. I'm like, no, it wasn't.
It was fucking 500. Give him 500.
Yeah. Like, why not?

Speaker 10 Stanton and Judge hit him like, okay, that didn't go 427. That went like 527 feet.

Speaker 5 Yeah, dude. Don't sell them short.
We went to the all-star game in Miami and

Speaker 5 Judge hit a home run that hit the back wall of the stadium stadium like super high up. And they're like, yeah, that was 480.
It's like, dude, that was never going to land.

Speaker 5 It was literally never going to land.

Speaker 6 And they also do this thing where if you hit it into like

Speaker 6 the third deck, if you're in Toronto or something like that and lands up there, they can tell you exactly how far it would have gone. Like when it hits a seat that's only 370 feet away or whatever.

Speaker 6 I don't trust that match.

Speaker 5 Yeah, I don't trust StatCast either. Statcast made up.
Yeah, I think they just guess.

Speaker 5 They're like, oh, he hit that hard 110x velocity.

Speaker 10 Like, straight up, so it's like

Speaker 5 50 degrees. Right, right.
I swear to God. I met the StatCast guy at Wrigley once, and I just sat there grilling him.
And he had his two computers out, and I was like, you're making this up.

Speaker 5 He's like, no, I swear to God, we're not. I'm like, yeah, you are.
I know you are. And like, he hit one, and then I guessed it.
And I was like, pretty much right on. Yeah.

Speaker 5 Like, so you're making it up.

Speaker 10 Yeah. You're just throwing numbers out there.

Speaker 5 All right. Well, Patrick, thank you, man.
Appreciate it. And good luck for the rest of the season.

Speaker 10 Dude, thank you guys. This is an awesome.

Speaker 5 Yeah, thank you very much. This is sick.

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Speaker 5 Breaking Moose.

Speaker 5 Alex Caruso just got arrested. Oh, no.
No. For what?

Speaker 6 For being, for having the, for

Speaker 6 stealing people's money because his top shot is worth $5,000 a piece now.

Speaker 5 Nope.

Speaker 12 Illegal Bosley possession.

Speaker 5 Nope.

Speaker 5 What happened?

Speaker 5 He got arrested for marijuana possession at Texas A ⁇ M. Oh, what does he throw away the key?

Speaker 5 That's what he's doing at Texas A ⁇ M.

Speaker 6 That's literally the only place on earth that you can still get arrested for marijuana possession.

Speaker 5 Alex Caruso, NBA player, NBA stud, but I feel like the only place where he really probably gets that full

Speaker 5 stud treatment is Texas A ⁇ M. Yeah, I just don't know.

Speaker 6 That's embarrassing.

Speaker 5 But if he gets that stud treatment at Texas A ⁇ M, he shouldn't get arrested. Facts.
Like, you're big man on campus, you're big man on campus. That's a fact.

Speaker 5 Oh no, Caruso.

Speaker 6 I feel like there's more to this story, too, because you really have to fuck up in 2021 to get busted for pot.

Speaker 5 LeBron better like come out against him hard. There's kids on Twitter, he's got his movie to sell.
Do you want kids to be doing weed?

Speaker 6 They should be drinking wine.

Speaker 5 All right, two ounces, so you know, that's a significant amount of work.

Speaker 6 Yeah,

Speaker 5 oh my god.

Speaker 5 Uh, all right, wait, wait.

Speaker 5 Caruso's moving weight?

Speaker 5 I mean,

Speaker 5 no, but if you're Alex Caruso,

Speaker 5 you don't just buy an eighth. You just buy two ounces because who cares? You're Alex Caruso.
You have so much money. Right.

Speaker 5 Yeah, but you could be like, you should have someone else buy it for you. Yeah, you got a fall guy.
Yeah, you should definitely have a fall guy.

Speaker 5 You're not that guy. You're not that guy, pal.
Also, you don't have to buy the weed guy anymore.

Speaker 6 You live in California.

Speaker 5 Right.

Speaker 6 Pretty abundant, I'm told.

Speaker 5 All of it doesn't really add up there. Pretty pretty.
And it was by Texas AM University Police on campus. Of course.

Speaker 6 It was probably the cadets. The cadets probably did like a citizen's arrest on him and detained him and waited for law enforcement to come.
What a weird place.

Speaker 5 All right.

Speaker 5 Let's do some Mike Greenberg's zum rules real quick. So, baseball

Speaker 5 has they're cracking down on the sticky stuff. They're now doing mandatory checks.
Players are making a mockery of it, which I personally love. I know the counter-argument will be: oh, no,

Speaker 5 you know, don't take it out on the umpires. Fuck that, dude.
The MLB sucks. The MLB is so stupid.

Speaker 6 It was very funny

Speaker 6 seeing Max Scherzer get searched three times. He got searched three times on the mountain today.
So my understanding is that the managers can call for like two

Speaker 6 or like you get like two free passes. I don't even know exactly what the rules are, but I do know that Girardi like asked for a third one on Scherzer.

Speaker 6 And Scherzer undid his belt buckle, took his glove off, took his hat off, threw it at him, and then Girardi got tossed later.

Speaker 5 But

Speaker 6 it's ridiculous. Like at some point, I feel like Trevor Bauer, when he gets searched, he's probably just going to strip.
He's just probably going to take off the shirt.

Speaker 5 That actually basically just happened in the A's game.

Speaker 5 It was, who was it? Someone just basically stripped Sergio Romo. Sergio Romo essentially stripped in front of the ump.
And I know there's going to be people who are like, well, what should they do?

Speaker 5 Let him keep cheating?

Speaker 5 Yeah, that's what MLB has always done. That's what they did for the steroid era.
That's what they did for the greenie era.

Speaker 5 That's what they did did for juicing the balls, which probably led to the pitchers being like, we have to even this somehow by doing the sticky stuff. My whole point is

Speaker 5 you should fix it, but don't fix it in the middle of the season only after it becomes public because you feel like a fool for letting it go on and having it be an open secret for so long.

Speaker 5 That's why MLB is stupid.

Speaker 6 I love how Rob Manford was like, you know what, fans, we hear you loud and clear. You want baseball to be more like the TSA.

Speaker 6 So

Speaker 6 we're going to have you take your shoes off, put your laptops in a tray. It's honestly like it's ridiculous that every time they do this, they're stopping the game for like seven minutes.

Speaker 5 Yeah, pace of play. It's just so stupid.

Speaker 6 So I got a couple ideas for how maybe we could even this out a little bit.

Speaker 6 First is just if the manager asks you to ask the umpires to go out there and check the pitcher more than once in a game, the manager then has to go to bat if they don't find anything.

Speaker 5 I think you should just, if you get checked, it should be like

Speaker 5 not TSA, TSA, but let's call it like going into a stadium and getting checked going into a stadium. If you get checked and you're able, so you get checked the first inning.

Speaker 5 If you're able to sneak something onto the mound in the second inning, it should play.

Speaker 5 If you can get a flask into the fucking game, you should get to drink out of that flask. If you get a nip of pine tar, that would be funny.
Right.

Speaker 5 If he pulls off his pants and out of his jockstrap comes some spider tack.

Speaker 6 Here's what we got. What about this?

Speaker 6 If they check you, you don't get caught. you are allowed to use whatever you want from that point forward.
You can't be checked for anything.

Speaker 5 Right.

Speaker 6 So, if, let's say the manager is allowed to request you to get checked twice, then at that point, you can flagrantly cheat for the rest of the game. Yeah.

Speaker 6 You can just have a bottle of airplane glue in your hand and be doing that between pitches. I'm in for it.
And that's all fair. So you get two times, two requests for this.

Speaker 6 And if it goes past that, then you're fucking over your own team.

Speaker 5 It's just, I cannot believe that, and it's crazy that there are actually people out there who are like, I side with the MLB here. For why?

Speaker 5 They fucking let everyone cheat for their history of the game, and just because they got exposed,

Speaker 5 they're going to swing the pendulum of justice so hard. Like, you're making a drastic change in the middle of a season.

Speaker 5 I do think you should stop with the spider attack and all that shit, but this is just so over-the-top ridiculous.

Speaker 5 So over-the-top ridiculous. And it's so classic MLB where they're like, well, we fucked up, and now we didn't care that we fucked up.

Speaker 5 We cared that we got caught, and and now we're gonna just make it so apparent that we're checking everyone that the game gets slower and all the pace of the plate it's so stupid it's so stupid okay i'm watching sergio romo right now take his belt off pants all the way down like to his knees usually i mean they could just hide anything they want under their ball sack it's it's like prison are there are the umpires going to be like hey turn around lift it up joe west will joe west will um all right faqs let's finish faqs then billy uh i do want to say just going back to our conversation about memes earlier he did come through ZipRecruiter.

Speaker 5 We got over 3,000 people sent in their resumes. We went through a bunch.
But

Speaker 5 how I look at it is when I go through resumes and it's like you either put your resume with just words on it, and memes was like, oh, I've been doing PMT memes for the last, whatever, 12 months on my own, just doing it.

Speaker 5 That obviously says a lot more. So if you are thinking of how to get in the door, it's like, just do it.
Do it without anyone telling you what to do because then.

Speaker 6 You've got a body of work.

Speaker 5 Then I look at it. I'm like, I don't have to tell this person what to do when he works here.

Speaker 5 FAQs.

Speaker 5 What's your favorite podcast at Barcelona that you are not affiliated with?

Speaker 6 That's a good question. I like

Speaker 6 The Sit-Down. It's pretty good.
Nope.

Speaker 5 What?

Speaker 5 Well,

Speaker 6 it's not here.

Speaker 5 That might be a feature. Can I say KFC Radio, even though I was affiliated? No.
Okay.

Speaker 5 What the fuck? You got to unplug the fridge.

Speaker 5 All right. All right.
All right. I like chiclets.
Chiclets.

Speaker 5 Chiclets is amazing. Respect.
Chiclets is the best.

Speaker 5 I like.

Speaker 6 Trying to take it with my favorite.

Speaker 5 Togan CEO.

Speaker 5 Dave Portno's show.

Speaker 5 Always good for the drama. Yeah, I do listen to that one.
I mean, I don't listen to a lot of podcasts, but when I do listen to that. Unnotic roughness is good.
I'm a college football fan.

Speaker 5 Caller Daddy, R.I.P. I like raspberry.
Now, just listening to all, listening, listing all of them. Oh, Son of a Boy Dad? New Sass and Roan joint.
Those are my guys.

Speaker 6 Anus.

Speaker 5 He was mad that you guys didn't credit him

Speaker 5 for Singy for the summer. It would be funnier if we just didn't say Anus.

Speaker 6 And obviously, LCB

Speaker 6 boys.

Speaker 5 Sweep out Anus because then they're going to be a little bit more.

Speaker 6 You are a kid with him.

Speaker 5 Sass was mad at you guys, though, for not crediting them.

Speaker 6 For what?

Speaker 5 Singy for the summer. Oh, I can't say red line.

Speaker 6 I'm affiliated. He said that?

Speaker 5 Proglock.

Speaker 5 Okay.

Speaker 5 So,

Speaker 5 how many of the

Speaker 5 CBT? How many of the Uncle Chad?

Speaker 6 The reality of the situation is we don't have that much time to listen to podcasts.

Speaker 5 They're all very good.

Speaker 6 But they are good. We watch all the clips and we listen to them when we can.

Speaker 5 How many of the friends of PMT are you guys truly close friends with? Big Cat said something about if he texted Blake Griffin about hanging out after the title, he'd be hit with a haha reaction.

Speaker 5 Do the other Blakes fall into that? What about Jared, Chris Long, etc.?

Speaker 6 I would consider Chris Long to be a friend of ours.

Speaker 5 Chris and Kyle are friends.

Speaker 5 Jared would hang out. The other Blakes.

Speaker 5 Yeah, Blake Bortles. Blake Bortles is like on a 24-hour text delay, but he definitely would hang out.
I feel like Blake Kepka is a

Speaker 5 prime pro. No, he's a friend.
He's a friend. No, I think he would hang out.
Brooks would definitely hang out. Brooks would absolutely hang out.

Speaker 6 Which weird calling somebody like an actual friend when we've only. How many times have we met him face to face? Two? I think twice.
Yeah.

Speaker 5 But

Speaker 5 there's people, if I hit him up, I was like, hey, let's get dinner or something.

Speaker 5 Brooks would definitely fall in that category. Who else would fall in that category?

Speaker 6 Sufiner.

Speaker 5 Sufiner? Absolutely.

Speaker 6 Going out there tomorrow for field day. Yep.

Speaker 5 It's going to be incredible. We're going to get him on the show.

Speaker 5 I don't know. We'll make a list.

Speaker 6 Florio's family.

Speaker 5 Yeah. Should we make a list?

Speaker 6 Take Prisco maybe over Florio.

Speaker 5 Just because you can get into some shit with him. We don't need to make a list.
No, we can make a list. Make a list, Billy.

Speaker 6 Danny Woodhead?

Speaker 5 Danny Woodhead, for sure. Not a question.
I actually did see this a lot in response to the end of the show on Monday. Rachel Nichols.
Did he count? Nah. Mark Titus.

Speaker 6 Wait, did you nah, Riscilla or Rachel Nichols?

Speaker 5 No, Rachel Nichols is cool. Priscilla, no?

Speaker 5 Riscilla's a friend.

Speaker 6 Are you picking a fight with Riscilla?

Speaker 5 She's a friend of mine.

Speaker 6 You're not that dude.

Speaker 5 You're not that dude. That guy.
You're not that guy or that dude.

Speaker 6 You're neither one.

Speaker 5 Like, if you

Speaker 5 really

Speaker 6 coming at Rosillo?

Speaker 5 No, I just...

Speaker 5 No offense, but Rosillo would snap you in half. Who says?

Speaker 5 I'm just giving my opinion. Why is everyone coming at me?

Speaker 6 I'm going to tell Rosillo

Speaker 6 you said that.

Speaker 5 Dude, I'm going to tell Rosillo that you said. That's fine.
I would smoke Rascillo one-on-one. Oh,

Speaker 5 and what? Anything. Oh, my God.
Chess.

Speaker 5 Sure.

Speaker 6 Probably. Yeah.

Speaker 5 I hope your will's in order.

Speaker 5 By the way, did you, someone tweeted me that?

Speaker 5 He posted a picture. I wasn't even sure if there was a hoop in it.
It was just him shooting. I was like, I think he might have just posted that in a fit.
I think that's a physic elevation.

Speaker 5 We did our wills. I don't know why.
I love you or so. I don't know why.
I don't know why he's in PlayStation.

Speaker 5 No, I love it.

Speaker 6 No, I love it. Hank, he was just clearing out his phone.

Speaker 6 He made that very clear. He's like, here are a bunch of old photos I got to clear out and put on Instagram.

Speaker 6 That's my favorite is when someone's like, clearing out my phone from all my summer vacation.

Speaker 5 Just randomly thought of these pictures that I clearly was going back through to look at. I'm actually not going to say the will thing because that was a funny tweet, but it's also sad.
What?

Speaker 5 The one I sent you, Hank?

Speaker 5 We did a will two years ago on PMT where we all said what everyone guessed.

Speaker 5 My will had Leroy and Rhea. Yeah.
Speaking of that, though, that's...

Speaker 5 Someone was like, way to go, big cat.

Speaker 6 Cold takes exposed.

Speaker 5 That is a good transition to this next one.

Speaker 5 I did get a lot of responses and people reaching out after the end of the show on Monday and people being like, I went through something similar and part of my take helped me get through that.

Speaker 5 So this FAQ is kind of so what do you use? ZBT? Just wanted to.

Speaker 5 No, I'm still figuring that out. Oh, okay.
Just wanted to say thanks to the whole pod, especially our special boy Hangpig fan of the show. It's gotten me through some rough times.
Love you guys.

Speaker 5 Oh, and something for. So that's more just like, we do get a lot of those messages.
I appreciate them. They're nice to see.
I thought everyone

Speaker 5 kind of blows my mind.

Speaker 5 I thought everyone stepped up. Like, all the responses I saw, I thought everyone stepped up and was appropriate and respected it.
It was nice. It was good to see.
We can be adults every now and then.

Speaker 5 Yeah, and sometimes I just don't think about, you know, we just do the show. It's our job.
It's funny or whatever.

Speaker 5 We have laughs, but it's seeing people that reach out and are like, oh, you know, this show helps me a lot. It helps me get through stuff.
Like, it's cool to see.

Speaker 5 Let's do one more.

Speaker 5 All right, I'm not going to do this to Billy then. Have you guys been back to Canton to put flowers at Larry's grave or to see if the tree signage is still there? No fucking chance.

Speaker 5 And AWL definitely stole that shit as soon as the fan drove drove off.

Speaker 6 I would be shocked if Larry's body had not been desecrated at this point.

Speaker 5 We should actually just say it because it's the perfect, hey, remember when everyone stepped up when Hank opened his heart?

Speaker 5 Well, the reverse of it is when we buried Larry and not 24 hours later, some asshole tweeted at us and we actually made a pact in this group that were like, we're not going to give him any shine.

Speaker 5 He dug up Larry's grave and ripped the thing off and was like, I wanted it for my house. You fucking asshole.
I hope you got hit by a bus.

Speaker 6 Also, Also, jokes on you because that wasn't even Larry's body. That was a random goldfish we found at the pet store and killed and buried there just so that you would take it.

Speaker 6 We still have Larry's body here.

Speaker 5 And

Speaker 6 it's actually Larry's body. Yeah, it is.

Speaker 10 And you got it.

Speaker 6 But fuck you.

Speaker 5 It's got Jimmy Hoffa's DNA on it, so you could be implicated in a crime, my friend. Mm-hmm.
Yeah, that sucked. That was a very big moment of like, nah, we didn't do it right.

Speaker 6 I didn't think it was too much to be asked.

Speaker 5 No, we did it right. Yeah, we did it right.
No, like the AWLs didn't do it right.

Speaker 6 I don't know. Maybe I'm naive.
I don't think it's too much to ask to be like, hey, don't dig up my pet's body.

Speaker 5 24 hours. I wanted one week.
I wanted to just not know. If you had dug it up and never told us, we would have been happy.

Speaker 6 You know what I really wanted?

Speaker 5 Someone should go back there and put up a sign. We'll send you a t-shirt if you do that.

Speaker 5 If you're in Canton, Ohio, find the tree.

Speaker 6 I wanted other AWS

Speaker 6 to be able to stop by and pay their respects for at least a little bit. You ruined it.

Speaker 5 That guy.

Speaker 6 There's people that actually took road trips to Canton, Ohio to visit poor Larry's little fish body, and they just arrived arrived there and saw a giant hole in the ground.

Speaker 5 Fucking asshole. It really bummed me out.
I love the guy that brought his kid to that. Yeah, that was great.

Speaker 6 Yeah, that kid's scarred for life.

Speaker 5 And the poor guy that brought his like his wife or whatever and she was just like, what's going on? She's like, this sucks. Saturday afternoon.
All right, Billy.

Speaker 12 So we missed a couple things today. First, my hot seat is wings.
Wings stop is now thigh stop due to the national wings shortage.

Speaker 12 There was a three-time price increase in wings, so it actually had like, you you know, it's actually been a better investment to invest in wings than it would be to invest in, like, some cryptos right now.

Speaker 12 So, like, we should have been buying wings.

Speaker 5 My cool throne. Oh, we were.

Speaker 6 Yeah, you used to eat them. No, no, but like to store.
Got it. For like buying and freezing wings.
So wait, what does this mean for Buffalo Wild Wings? Buffalo Wild Thighs? Yeah, Wild Thighs.

Speaker 6 That actually sounds like a better risk.

Speaker 12 Chicken thighs are actually cheaper than chicken wings now.

Speaker 5 What about drumsticks?

Speaker 12 Drumsticks are technically chicken wings.

Speaker 6 Really? No, they're not. They're legs.
Those are legs. Wings are the arms.

Speaker 5 Wings are the wings.

Speaker 6 This is a wing, right?

Speaker 5 I don't know what I mean for sections.

Speaker 6 And then that's the drumstick.

Speaker 12 Rick Ross had a killer commercial. My cool throne is Jameis Winston's friends because he's still employing them to train him.
Yeah. And there was a bunch of awesome videos today.
They were.

Speaker 12 That were hilarious.

Speaker 5 He's the workout king.

Speaker 6 I feel like he's trolling us at this point.

Speaker 5 What was he saying? What were the numbers?

Speaker 6 What do you mean? Oh, and so what was happening was he had a buddy that was standing downfield and flashing holding, holding up like hands.

Speaker 6 How many fingers am I holding up? And Jame is proving to us that he has the eyesight of a peregrine falcon at this point. We're just calling out those numbers left and right, not even squinting.

Speaker 6 I don't know if you saw his eyes.

Speaker 5 I love it.

Speaker 6 Nothing's ever going to match the giant scrotum workout video, though, where he just had that big swinging ball bag just going back and forth.

Speaker 5 Also,

Speaker 12 people think Tom Brady was talking about the 49ers and Jimmy Garoppolo because people said that Tom Brady always wanted to move back to California and retire at his childhood team.

Speaker 5 That's right.

Speaker 6 That he was at that game with Chris Berman. Exactly.

Speaker 12 Also,

Speaker 12 RG3 released a video to Jake's point of him running apparently a 4.3740, which was totally false,

Speaker 12 which definitely means that

Speaker 12 it was also fake news, like what Jake was talking about.

Speaker 6 Also, that's weird. I feel like we discussed that earlier about RG3's 40 time on the Instagram video.

Speaker 6 All right,

Speaker 6 set the giant counter back to zero days for Billy.

Speaker 5 What?

Speaker 5 PFT talked about it. Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 5 He brought it up.

Speaker 12 The sticky stuff, persecution, and MLB is

Speaker 12 because of there's been the longest,

Speaker 12 lowest batting average in the league, it's been much longer.

Speaker 5 Because he deadened the balls. No, because

Speaker 5 remember that tweet?

Speaker 12 Remember the tweet storm about the guy who was saying that people were

Speaker 12 Steinstealing the Yankees were implicated.

Speaker 5 They found a bunch of cameras.

Speaker 6 They all stopped doing that.

Speaker 12 So the batting averages.

Speaker 5 They deadened the balls.

Speaker 12 The batting averages went down because of the cameras. That's my theory.

Speaker 5 They also deadened the balls. Like, the MLB is so stupid.
They juiced the balls so that there'd be more home runs. Then when everyone was like, the balls are juiced,

Speaker 5 and the balls were juiced. Then the pitchers were like, well, fuck, we got to figure out something to stop that.
So we're going to put a bunch of sticky shit on our hands.

Speaker 5 Then they deadened the balls. and then the, and then they're like, the batters are like, well, now it's not fair.
They have the sticky stuff. See how the MLP just keeps putting themselves in a circle?

Speaker 5 Now it actually

Speaker 6 would be the best time for a batter to just straight up cork your bat.

Speaker 5 Let everyone cork bats.

Speaker 5 Juice the balls. Juice the players.
Steroids. Fight attack for everyone.

Speaker 6 Mandatory steroids.

Speaker 5 Let's just see how let's see how fast guys can throw and how far home runs can weave uniforms out of fighting necklaces. Give them all the superpowers.
I hate them. Sorry, Billy.

Speaker 5 That wasn't about you.

Speaker 12 I also dug Larry's grave.

Speaker 6 That's a lie.

Speaker 6 I'm on video digging Larry's grave. Oh, you dug the whole spoiler.

Speaker 5 You didn't dig him up. Yeah.
You didn't desecrate.

Speaker 6 No, I didn't desecrate. I dug the gun.

Speaker 5 You dug the Undertaker.

Speaker 5 I didn't dig deep enough. Yes.
Oh,

Speaker 5 I like the responsibilities taken, though. I like the responsibility, but I'm going to back you up.
I remember because I think I also maybe dug a little bit of it.

Speaker 5 There was that tree, a very old tree, and there was a lot of roots. True.
A lot of roots.

Speaker 12 Chipmunks carry more ticks than deer.

Speaker 5 Chipmunks carry more ticks. 58.
Really?

Speaker 12 Eight. Yeah, big Lyme disease.

Speaker 6 They're way cuter, though. Chipmunks are

Speaker 6 like the cutest thing ever.

Speaker 5 99. 18.

Speaker 6 It's like baby ducks.

Speaker 5 I feel like someone's going to get it here.

Speaker 6 69.

Speaker 5 Eight.

Speaker 6 Always eight.

Speaker 5 19. Jean.
Is that a first time?

Speaker 5 19 is moved to the four-time category. Whoa.
Joining 17, 38, and 80.

Speaker 6 She's a thirsty little bitch that night.

Speaker 6 All right, love you guys.

Speaker 6 Don't kick away.

Speaker 6 I don't know what to say or say it anyway.

Speaker 6 Today isn't my birthday. Turn by

Speaker 6 shy away.

Speaker 6 I've been coming for your love of day. Today

Speaker 6 I'm all set in

Speaker 6 bumpy stone a little way.

Speaker 6 Slowly learning that life is okay.

Speaker 6 Say of me,

Speaker 6 it's the fairy to save in time

Speaker 6 I

Speaker 6 gone