Paul Rabil, NBA Playoffs, The Boys Went To An Islanders Game & Fyre Fest Of The Week

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Speaker 2 On today's part of my take, we are talking to our good friend Paul Rabel. Little PLL water dogs.
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Speaker 2 We are going to talk a little NBA playoffs. We went to the Coliseum, so we give a review of the Coliseum.

Speaker 2 Big Cat, you're under something. We saved the Coliseum.
We saved the Coliseum, the Collie. It was an awesome night.
Long Island is the best.

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Speaker 2 talking about Jay Williams and probably the worst tweets of all time. Fire Fest of the Week, a great show.
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Speaker 2 Today is Friday, June 25th, and it is no longer Sons and Four. Could be a gentleman's sweep, though.
But it also needs to be the Playoff P game, the Playoff P playoffs.

Speaker 2 I'm going to give some credit. We talked about this the other night.
I'm going to give some credit to playoff P. He had an awesome night.
They needed to win this game.

Speaker 2 Not a can't lose, but a must-win.

Speaker 2 27, 15, and 8, half-court shot, set the tone. The Clippers have life.
The Clippers officially have a little bit of life. Reports of the Clippers' demise were greatly overexaggerated by us.

Speaker 2 Is Chris Paul a cancer to the team? I think Chris Paul was selfish tonight, big cat, in that he rushed himself back too fast.

Speaker 2 Those are the two sides of the coin you have to play as an NBA analyst. Either say, like, this guy's a wimp because he's not out there fighting for his guys, or he may have come back too fast.
He did.

Speaker 2 And he needed to wait. Chris Paul needed to wait a little bit longer, come back.
He was not the Chris Paul that we know. But, I mean, who knows? He might be.
Is he a long hauler?

Speaker 2 Yeah. Could be.
Yeah, we could.

Speaker 2 I just, I feel bad for the Sons and Four guy because you know, deep down in his head, I mean, we know this for a fact because he came on our show and said, if I can't get tickets, I just like to shoot around with the boys.

Speaker 2 So we know how his mind works. He was thinking deep down.
They're not going to lose again. Sons and four, sons and four, sons and four.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And then we win the title and I'm Sons and Four guy and I basically make my entire existence. Like if the Sons had gone Sons and Four, Sons and Four, Sons and Four, he would have been set for life.

Speaker 2 Oh, he absolutely would. He would not have had to buy a drink in the Scottsdale area ever again.
I think the Sons would have given him a job. Yeah, just to sit in the sand.
And just say Sons and Four.

Speaker 2 Not to do anything. Just like sit there, hold up four fingers.
Every time a game entered the fourth quarter, he would be the guy that would just hold up four. The arena would go nuts.

Speaker 2 That would be his life. He'd probably get a gig doing like Saturday radio on some Phoenix local sports station.
He would have had a great time just milking that.

Speaker 2 Now, if they do advance and they win the NBA championship in four games, if it's a clean sweep, at that point, I feel like it's still kind of back on for him. He kind of comes back.

Speaker 2 This game also has an asterisk. And let's just throw it out there.
Campaign did get hurt. He only played four minutes.
That changes the whole series. Changes the flow.

Speaker 2 This offense flows through campaign. Right.
You can confidently say

Speaker 2 there's no excuses left on the table. The Clippers are without their best guy, Kawhi.
The Suns are without their best guy, Campaign. Although, would you rather have Campaign stick around and have a...

Speaker 2 You can't make him the identity of your offense because then you lose the magic. That is the campaign game that we already had.
Which will never forget.

Speaker 2 That was the campaign game, though. Right.
Until the next one happens. Which is coming up as soon as you can tell me.
But I'm just throwing an asterisk. You know what?

Speaker 2 I think it's, you know, you have to. This story doesn't get told without starting with campaign.
Did not play more than four minutes in this game.

Speaker 2 The Suns also did the thing where they spread their scoring out almost evenly amongst their starters. The problem is they need to have like four more points per person.
And they need campaign.

Speaker 2 And campaign to show up. If that happens.

Speaker 2 The Suns are tough to beat. Yeah.
All right. So it's a series, though.
You know what? No. We're a Suns podcast.
The series doesn't start until the Road team wins. That's true.
That's true.

Speaker 2 But it is nice that we won't have. Because, you know, if the Suns at one tonight, and we are a Suns podcast, podcast,

Speaker 2 I would have said it would be pretty clear that it was going to be Suns at four.

Speaker 2 Now, I wouldn't hate it if Kawhi came and played, just so that way, as long-time suffering Suns fans, no one can take this away from us and be like, well, Kawhi didn't play in this season. Right.

Speaker 2 I don't want, you know, what I'm dreading, like the Mickey Mouse repliers on Twitter, the ones who are like, this is a Mickey Mouse

Speaker 2 championship for your Suns. Yeah.
Ratio, hold this ratio on your fraud championship. List of guys that got hurt in the 2021 playoffs.
Yeah. Sons

Speaker 2 didn't didn't win a real title. No, I want to.
I'm blocking that. You know what? I want to take your best shot and still beat you as a Suns fan.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, we've been waiting a long, long time since at least the Nuggets series. Yeah.
So it's been a long time. Has Kawhi even been around? No, he was in the suite.
They showed him in the suite.

Speaker 2 Okay, cool. Yeah, so he's there.
I thought he might have been dead. No, he's there.

Speaker 2 Proof of life

Speaker 2 has been proven. Okay, let's talk some Hawks Bucks.
Game one. Trey Young.
This is the Trey Young coming out party. 48 points.
As was the last game.

Speaker 2 I feel like he's had like six games this postseason where it's like, this is the emergence of Trey Young. Yes.
Turns out he's just really good. I have a question for you, Big Cap.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 What if the Hawks just won the championship?

Speaker 2 Dude, so...

Speaker 2 We're going to talk about the Islanders game in a second. How weird would that be?

Speaker 2 I DVR'd the game, and I actually think this might be my new move, even though it's only a set circumstances of being at a game and missing another game.

Speaker 2 But watching a a game after the fact is kind of fun. I also beat Magic Johnson still.
I watched the game at 10 a.m. on Thursday morning, and I beat Magic Johnson by four hours.
To what tweet?

Speaker 2 To him being on the game. Are you working out a shot today? No, just catching up on the Hawksbucks game one tweet.
So I beat him to it still. So I was still very much on it.

Speaker 2 But I was thinking that exact thought.

Speaker 2 It could happen. Maybe.

Speaker 2 I don't really. So my biggest takeaway is Trey Young is in a zone right now where he's playing with so much confidence.

Speaker 2 He did the shimmy in the middle of a fucking three-point shot, which shout out to Trae Young because that's the most pressure you could ever have in a three-point shot is doing the shimmy before you're shot.

Speaker 2 It's actually worse than trying a contested three-pointer.

Speaker 2 I would like to see the stats on it. I bet you that he's more accurate, or most shooters are more accurate with a hand in their face than they are doing a shimmy on a wide open.

Speaker 2 I think he had the ball for like three seconds before he shot it. It was crazy.
It's nuts. And so he put all that pressure on himself, which just tells me he is ice cold.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so he's playing with so much confidence that

Speaker 2 there's moments where he looks like he's not trying hard because it's like

Speaker 2 he's just so at ease right now. You know what I mean? Like, you know, some of the passes, they're just so at ease.
Like, he's playing a pickup game. And

Speaker 2 that's where I had that thought where I was like, wait, Trey Young has so much confidence. He's playing in such a style that anything works for him.

Speaker 2 Even if he's at a bad shooting night, he's getting involved another way. And we talked about this against the, you know, after the game seven.

Speaker 2 Even if he's having a bad shooting night, he's going to keep shooting. But yeah, the Hawks.
And his rim protection is just off the charts. I do think we shouldn't overreact to game one.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's true against Ben Simmons. We shouldn't overreact to game one because I think the Bucs will still.
You know, this is going to be a series.

Speaker 2 It's going to be a long series, and they could absolutely win this series. But

Speaker 2 it's the Trey Young. We need to get the Trey Young some.
I'm going to stop because I am going to overreact because I don't think that we've even come close to overreacting on Trey Young.

Speaker 2 I think the best that we've said about him is he's a great player, great shooter. Oh, no.
And

Speaker 2 when he beat the Knicks, we were like, he's an awesome villain. No, the best thing I said about him was that we now have to redraft the 2018 NBA draft.
Okay, yeah. That's the biggest

Speaker 2 on Luka. How could you pick Trey Young ahead of, or how could you, you know, the trade that went down where the Hawks basically traded back and they're like, you take Luca, we'll take Trey Young.

Speaker 2 Right. So I think that that's actually not.
Yeah, it's a discussion.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's a discussion. I'm going to overreact and say that for the first time, I was able to picture mentally Trey Young winning a national championship.
I was able to picture him NBA championship.

Speaker 2 I'll say Oklahoma's never going to win.

Speaker 2 International championship because we play against the Raptors, too. They'll get blown out by fucking 40 in the Rose Bowl because they can't play defense.
Right.

Speaker 2 So I can picture Trey Young winning an NBA champion. He's a confetti guard now.

Speaker 2 I can mentally see the confetti falling down on his weird hair. Oh my god, it would get stuck.

Speaker 2 We get stuck in such weird places in his hair. He also deed up Giannis on a possession.
Poor Pat Conneton with the shot that basically could have won the Bucks of the game and he airballed it.

Speaker 2 And it was like... There's a bit of that going around.
A bit of that going around. Actually, we should talk about that real quick.
So KD is he's... When he's on Twitter, he's on 10 champ.

Speaker 2 There is no take it easy for him. So if you missed it, Scotty Pippen did an interview with GQ, which,

Speaker 2 listen, I love Scotty Pippen. He's an all-time, all-time player.
But Scotty Pippen does have enough things in his resume that him criticizing KD, being like, you tried to win it all yourself,

Speaker 2 you had to know if you're Scotty Pippen, like, you're going to get clapped back, and it's going to be things that you don't want to talk about.

Speaker 2 You know, the migraine, the sitting out the last play, like those things, like get, you know, not rehabbing over the summer.

Speaker 2 Like, those things are going to have to come up if you're going to criticize a guy like Kevin Durant who does does not he if you criticize him he will come back at you getting cucked by future the rapper oh what happened oh with uh larson russell wilson yeah larsa no larsa that's just on the resume yeah okay and oh yeah yeah

Speaker 2 that was a wild day on the old internet i think it's i think there's a someone needs to make billy this actually be a good one for you make up a a formula a math formula because it's time since you last played.

Speaker 2 Like,

Speaker 2 if you have played 20 years ago, I think that the current players are like, shut up. If you've played 40 years ago, it's like, respect that legend.
I can't believe he's still alive. Right.

Speaker 2 So Charles Barkley gets clowned on all the time because he has opinions and then they're like, dude,

Speaker 2 you didn't win anything. You didn't play defense in these big moments.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 There's a resume of things that you can do. I'll tell you exactly when it is.
It was like that old Bad Boys Pistons team.

Speaker 2 When they won their last championship, that's the last of the respectable older guys. Everything after that, it's still like,

Speaker 2 stay in your lane, know your role, let the next generation

Speaker 2 unless you're Jordan. Because you take that personally.
And by the way, Scotty Pippen, I actually kind of get it.

Speaker 2 I get why Scotty Pippen is just ready to lash out at everybody because every place that Kevin Durant has ever played for, the question has always been like, is he the Jordan or is he the Pippen of this team?

Speaker 2 So Scotty's been like following him around on every team they've ever been on, just getting clowned by people.

Speaker 2 Like calling KD Scottie Pippen on any team that he's been on has been like a tremendous insult. Which is crazy because Scottie Pippen's the top 25 player of all time.

Speaker 2 And Scotty Pippen also made some decent points, not about KD. Like, he made a decent point about Steve Kerr.
Yeah. I mean, he, I mean, Steve Nash.
He made a decent point about him.

Speaker 2 He basically was like, look,

Speaker 2 you played him a ton of minutes. You should have had him in the post trying to rest a little bit while he's out there.
Like, he was clearly...

Speaker 2 Kevin Durant was incredible in that series. But you can't tell me that he wasn't at least a little gassed in the overtime because he was basically carrying the entire team on his back.

Speaker 2 I'm just still going through my head right now because it feels like Scotty Pippen is not clearly a top 25 NBA player of all time. And I'm doing names.
One by one.

Speaker 2 Are you willing to stand by that take?

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 I don't think either of us knows enough NBA history to.

Speaker 2 Here's what I'm going off of. I had a poster when I was kids.
I was top 50 players of all time. That was top 50 NBA players, and that was in like 2003.

Speaker 2 And Scottie Pippen was like controversially on the list. Oh, I think he was purely on the list at the time.
Now, top 25.

Speaker 2 All right, so we're just going to have to do it. Yeah, maybe top.
Yeah. All right.
I just pulled up the first one I could find.

Speaker 2 Literally the first one I could find. This is what we're going off of.
He's number 25. Okay.

Speaker 2 The first article I could find. Hey, listen, when you've been proven wrong, statistically, you've been proven wrong.

Speaker 2 It was good that we had the debate, though, wasn't it? Yeah,

Speaker 2 I think he's comfortably in top 35 and then top 25. Yeah,

Speaker 2 he's bubble top. I just pulled up another one, 24.
Oh, okay. So there you go.
He was like one of the last few men. Yeah.
Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 2 he will be surpassed by, you know, the Kevin Durants and the Steph Curries. But you can't count them because they're still playing.
Oh, they're right.

Speaker 2 I didn't know that was part of the list. No, no, no.
Just in case Kevin Durant ends up driving a school bus full of children off a cliff, we can take him. He's not going to be on the list

Speaker 2 until his chapter is fully written. That's so funny that people put two lists and he's 24 and 25 because that seems like

Speaker 2 that seems about right. Like, all right, that's the best sports podcast in the world.
What do you got? Yeah, we have that deep in our brains. We're like, we know this list.
What are you going to say?

Speaker 2 Have you guys heard of the bracket matrix? No, no, that sounds intense, though. It's a website and it's a

Speaker 2 compilation of every bracketology for college basketball and they take the average seed and then from there they make a bracket

Speaker 2 of the average brackets. They need that for the top 25 players in the world.
How many times have you jerked off to that

Speaker 2 zero but there's another single wait now i'm curious about the bracket who's the number one overall seed is it continues well it's only in season no like it's for each seed it's like a lot of

Speaker 2 college basketball over the course of time

Speaker 2 yeah here's ucla probably number one actually here's one that has him at 29 but he also has jason kidd higher than him which i feel like that's got to be wrong that's tough and it also has current players which we shouldn't count right when i was saying top 25 i wasn't counting current players you weren't in your brain.

Speaker 2 I was. No, I was not.
Because I was thinking how many people

Speaker 2 are still above him at this point in their career. There's probably like five that would be above him.
Yeah, I mean, I don't, unless I count LeBron, but everyone else, you got to wait till you see the

Speaker 2 top 25.

Speaker 2 I would count LeBron. Yeah, I think he's

Speaker 2 in Space Jam, too.

Speaker 2 He's in the top 25. I'm going to give him.
You know what? Write that down. Can you set the spring again?

Speaker 2 Write that down. Big Cat said something nice about LeBron.
He is a top 25 NBA player of all time. That was huge of me.
That was very big of me. Either way, Scotty Pippen, like,

Speaker 2 we need to figure out this fridge. This is fridge.
It sounds like we're in the middle of diehard and there's like a bomb going off if I can't fill a jug with my piss. Where's the.

Speaker 2 All right, I'm just going to unplug some random shit here. Yeah, it turned off.
We're good. Oh, he just unplugged it.
Billy said he doesn't think it's the fridge. Our microphones.

Speaker 2 What would it be then, Billy?

Speaker 2 Talking to Mike, Billy. Our microphones are off.
You don't think it's the fridge? Okay, we're back. Wait, Hank and Billy, do part of my take.
Our microphones are off.

Speaker 6 If it's not the fridge, what could it be, William?

Speaker 2 Something else that's weeping.

Speaker 2 Welcome back, Howard.

Speaker 2 That was actually a pretty decent debate right there, boys.

Speaker 2 Sound off in the comments which side you land on the...

Speaker 2 Is it the fridge or is it something else?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I guess it's.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you never know. Right, right.

Speaker 2 Either way, Scotty Pippen, the only fault Scotty Pippen really had in this entire commentary is going after Kevin Durant because that's the one guy who will always come back.

Speaker 2 And this is the worst week to go after Kevin Durant because he's coming off of an all-time performance and he doesn't have a job to go to right now. So he's just online every day.

Speaker 2 I bet you Kevin Durant has numerous Google searches set up for his own name.

Speaker 2 If there's an article that comes out that mentions KD, the servant, Durant, the Darantula, he's got all those set up. So they hit his inbox and he responds pronto on Twitter.
And honestly,

Speaker 2 I think he still probably does have a couple burner accounts that he breaks out, you know, for

Speaker 2 the real steamy stuff. Yes.
But I feel like

Speaker 2 he's kind of consolidated most of his takes to his main handle. I would say probably like 70% of what he's firing off online is coming from his name.
He's putting his name on it.

Speaker 2 And the rest, I just want to find what

Speaker 2 his current burner accounts are now because that's where you're going to get the real shit from him.

Speaker 2 He's given the hot takes. Okay, let's move on.
We're going to, before we do that.

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Speaker 2 Well, unfortunately, the Golden Knights and Canadiens are playing in overtime right now. We will update that as it goes on.
Flurry. Wait, yeah.
Gucci Overtime Challenge. Flurry, I'll do Carrie Price.

Speaker 2 I'll go Reeves again. Okay.
Actually, no, I'll do my guy Cole Caulfield from Wisconsin. So, Cole County.

Speaker 2 What team is he on? He's on the Canadian.

Speaker 2 Cause

Speaker 2 we were seeing Cole Caulfield? Like Canadians, America's team?

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah, they might be.
I think they might be. Well, unless the Islanders can finish game seven.
Islanders are America's team. Yeah.
So we went to the Collie. We saved the Collie.

Speaker 2 Some people are saying that. Not everybody.
Oh, the Collie was going to shut down. It would have been dead had we not brought the juice last night.
But we brought the juice. It was a hell of a time.

Speaker 2 It was a hell of an experience. So a few things that I like noted.

Speaker 2 The facility is a dump, but it's what? It is.

Speaker 2 You think people will be mad about that? No, I think they will readily admit that. Even Islanders fans, you know, that everything that happens during the game at the Cali is amazing.

Speaker 2 The barn is rocking. It's the best venue in hockey to just sit and watch a game at while the puck is in play.
Right.

Speaker 2 Everything beside that, they should light a match and then walk out the door and never turn back. Correct.
The venue is a dump. The experience is incredible.
It was so awesome. It was so loud.

Speaker 2 everyone was so locked into the game the i there was a moment in between the second and third period where i turned to pfd and hank and i was like i think i love long island because we are beloved on long island it was the the the most

Speaker 2 the highest approval rating i think the three of us have ever had inside of a building like we had little kids old men everyone in between we're not counting the hospitals that we visited that we haven't talked about on this show correct correct everyone in between asking for pictures saying what's up.

Speaker 2 Like, it was awesome. It felt really cool.
So, shout out, Islander Nation. We love you.

Speaker 6 Shout out to the kid that gave me a note with a whole presentation. He gave me a note with a flash drive attached.
And I thought it was going to be a resume asking to be an intern.

Speaker 6 It was just an application for us to go record at his house. And it was like, I hear you guys talk about recording in houses and stuff.

Speaker 6 I don't think he'd realize that. Wait, wait, Hank, wait, wait.

Speaker 2 Did you put the thing? You plugged that flash drive. That's definitely not.
No, no, I did never heard.

Speaker 2 He was a Russian. You are fucked.
I did agree. Do you disavow whatever is on Hank's computer right now?

Speaker 2 I haven't plugged it in. Okay.
Don't plug it in. I'll find it to Billy's computer when he gets his new one.

Speaker 2 I will probably plug it in. I saw somebody hand Hank a folded-up piece of paper, and Hank unrolls it, looks in, and calmly puts it in his pocket.
I would have sworn it was drugs.

Speaker 2 I would have sworn that Hank was just being very cool. Well, he was watching me.
I wasn't just going to throw it out. He tried to hand it to me first, and I was like, no, thank you.

Speaker 2 I don't just take random things.

Speaker 6 The point of the message is that I thought it was funny because he was like, come record in my studio thinking that that's because that's when we're on the road.

Speaker 6 We're like, sometimes we need places to record. It's like, we're not going to go to Long Island.

Speaker 2 I don't know. We might have a studio in New York.
You never know. If the Islanders win game seven, we might go to this kid's house.
All right. I almost just said it, but I'm not going to say it.

Speaker 2 I almost said we will go there. No, we might.
We'll think about it. No, we'll think about it because I love it.

Speaker 2 Well, we might have to do stuff with Paul because Paul Bisnett will probably be back here probably with a very stringent streaming schedule set up. So we might have to join him on some of those.

Speaker 2 But I had a blast. I had a blast.
I've noticed that Islanders fans are either 50 years old or 18 years old. That's pretty much it.

Speaker 2 I don't know how the breeding schedule works out there, but like everyone falls into one of those two demographics. They're all super friendly.

Speaker 2 And then at the end of the game, the shoe that got thrown on the ice was amazing. Like, that's actually...
Beer cans. That's the mark of a great hockey town.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Is at the end of the game, they just littered the ice with whatever was close to them. So it was like a bunch of beer cans get poured down there.

Speaker 2 And then one bastard out there just takes one of his shoes off and throws it. I think that's it.
Now that you brought it up, no, no, I saw the video of it. He takes one of his shoes, throws it.

Speaker 2 So now he's got to walk home with one shoe, but hell, like, it's worth it at that point. You guys just won

Speaker 2 a conference final game in overtime. It was, yeah, I mean, and obviously the Coliseum, like every game could be its last game there.

Speaker 2 So people were just like, fuck it, we're throwing everything on the ice.

Speaker 2 What I really loved about going to the Coliseum, it is as close to time traveling as you can get because it's so, it's, you know, it was built in 1972.

Speaker 2 They renovated it, but I was talking to Frankie Borrelli. He's like, they barely renovated it.
Yeah, I was trying to think what the renovations that they made could put some paint on it.

Speaker 2 Like, they probably nailed a fire extinguisher to the wall just in case something bad.

Speaker 2 They put an extra trash can in every bathroom so you could piss in that.

Speaker 2 But it was like, it was totally, it was a time travel. It was back, blast in the past.

Speaker 2 The Jumbotron is like, there are many people in the world who have bigger TVs in their living room than the Jumbotron. Doesn't show replays.
Ralph Macchio is fucking pumping up the crowd.

Speaker 2 They have like a 1986 Met there. It was just awesome.
It was just a fun fucking time that felt like it was a blast from the past. And the biggest,

Speaker 2 like,

Speaker 2 the biggest thing I could not figure out that is the most baffling thing I've ever been a part of is the fact that we went to the Nassau Coliseum. The venue's a dump.
It's a time travel.

Speaker 2 By far and away, the best Wi-Fi I've ever had inside of a stadium. Wouldn't you say? Oh, I didn't log into the Wi-Fi.
This is how the Wi-Fi was incredible. Even like

Speaker 2 the cell data service in there was strong. It was incredible.
I was able to text videos and shit. I was

Speaker 2 stupid in the net. Yeah, it's actually, well, probably because there are only like 14,000 people in there.
But the Wi-Fi, I was on the Wi-Fi and it was fucking humming.

Speaker 2 It was better than Barstrell's Wi-Fi.

Speaker 2 And the owner sits in the stands because there are no boxes. No sweets.

Speaker 2 I felt so bad for a friend, Kevin Love. The camera panned to him right after the Lightning scored a goal.

Speaker 2 They were doing one of the like, look at the celebrity in the stands, cheering on the Islanders. And it was right after the Lightning score.

Speaker 2 They put the camera on him, and no one's looking, excuse me, at the Jumbotron. So it was like dead silent in there.
And then he didn't chug a beer, unfortunately.

Speaker 2 But even Kevin Love was, he was like just in the stands.

Speaker 2 He was not in a primo box, as he would put it. He was just sitting amongst the people.
There's nowhere to go.

Speaker 2 It's just seats everywhere, and there's no upper deck. It's fucking awesome.
I actually, I grew to really love the toilet experience because at first it was like, maybe most people

Speaker 2 might might think that it's a downside to have to wait you know 15 minutes to go take a piss um but then you got to realize how much extra bonding happened in those toilet lines and most most of the bonding was done over people saying just piss in the sink when you go in there yeah and then hank ran into an old go ahead and tell the story hank all right well i mean this is one of those pft was heard this whole thing it was it was It rattled me for the rest of the night.

Speaker 6 This happened right before the game-winning goal.

Speaker 6 And after the game-winning goal, all I could think about was Mike Kensel, who was like the guy that was feeding Chris Mortensen's sources during the whole Deflategate thing.

Speaker 6 He was one of like the main enemies of the Patriots and Patriots fans.

Speaker 2 You had a chance, Mike Kennedy.

Speaker 6 When we got arrested at headquarters, what we were training was free, Brady, Fire Goodell. Kensel's a bitch.
So me and PFD are in line for like an hour.

Speaker 6 We finally get to the, I'm the next person in line to get to a urnal. So it's like, you know, the next person that walks away from the urinal, you take that person's spot.
This old guy turns around.

Speaker 6 I'm going to take his spot, and I had to pee really bad because I've been waiting for a long time. So, I'm like thinking he's just going to walk past me as I'm basically getting ready to take a piss.

Speaker 6 He puts his hand like on my shoulder and basically whispers in my ears: hey man, I'm Mike Kensel, nice to meet you, and walks away.

Speaker 6 And it had been so long that it took me like 10 seconds as I'm pissing him back, Mike Kensel, Mike, Kensel, Mike, Kensel. And then I remember the chant.

Speaker 2 And I was just like, Why did he even?

Speaker 6 He introduced me like he was like a friend.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 6 And I was like, You, I got arrested because I hated you.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was, it was honestly baffling. So I see this guy turn around from the urinal.

Speaker 2 Within a half second he ids hank makes a beeline right towards him gives him like a really strong pat on the shoulder to the point where i thought i thought it might have been zolak it was a zolak type greeting that he gave him just like aggressive like you're my boy walked out and then hank pees like two uh urinals down from me as i'm peeing after about i don't know 10 seconds hank just starts laughing while he's pissing he's like oh my god i can't believe who that was he kind of alphaed you yeah it was it was wild it was like uh it was uh well it was just because it was so quick quick, I probably would have chirped him back if I had, you know, it was five years.

Speaker 6 It was, what was it, six years ago at this point?

Speaker 2 It was a jerk store moment with Cassanza. You were like, you thought of your reply 20 seconds later.

Speaker 6 Yeah, then I just started laughing, but I was like, yeah, I was like, my Kensel, my Kensel. And I literally remembered Free Brady, Fire Goodell, Kensel's a bitch.

Speaker 2 And I was like, yeah. I'll put it this way.
If I was fights and I had seen what Kensel did to Hank and then left, I would be thinking real hard to myself that Hank was a mole this whole time.

Speaker 2 Because it was that type of like, he was saying hi to you, like an old friend that he didn't know.

Speaker 6 You know, other people were supposed to know you guys were enemies it looked a little sus but anyway so that happened we walked upstairs they win the goal shortly into overtime and the whole time i just was like rattled by my

Speaker 2 tensil it was in your head but either yeah i mean the the the coliseum was awesome the venue is a dump but the fucking experience is incredible and i hope we get to go back i really do although i don't i don't i mean yeah i hope so too but i also feel like it would be bad i'm also pretty sure he got he got i tried to look it up after he got fired like from the nfl shortly after yeah so he was wrong he was wrong All right.

Speaker 2 We will update the overtime game if it happens while we're recording the rest of the show.

Speaker 2 We have to get to the other thing that happened yesterday while we were out at Stu's, which we will have Stu Feiner on the show in the next couple weeks. It was a ridiculous day.

Speaker 2 We'll talk about it on Firefest. But Jay Williams.
Jay Williams, maybe the dumbest. back-to-back tweets.
Like he had one really bad tweet and then just really made it worse.

Speaker 2 So, if you missed the news, the Celtics hired,

Speaker 2 what's his name? Fuck. What's his name? Ime

Speaker 2 Adoka,

Speaker 2 black head coach from, he was assistant coach to the Nets. Jay Williams tweets out, the first head coach of color for the Celtics.

Speaker 2 And even more importantly, he is one talented individual who has paid his dues. Now,

Speaker 2 I would say that 99.9999% of people know that this wasn't true.

Speaker 2 And not only was it not true, but he picked the team that actually was the first team to have a blackhead coach in the history of the NBA, Bill Russell. They won a title with Doc Rivers.

Speaker 2 They have had like four or five blackhead coaches. Jay Williams, all-time idiot, like dumb tweet.

Speaker 2 And then, on top of all of that, he deletes it and waits like three hours and says, as it relates to the Boston Celtics tweet that came from my account a couple of hours ago, I did not post that, and my passcode has now been changed.

Speaker 2 Wow. So, just like every hacker usually sets up, they spend years at hacking school so that they can one day tweet from Jay Williams' account that the Celtics hired the first black head coach.

Speaker 2 You don't believe him that he got hacked? Yeah, I'm having a hard time.

Speaker 2 I will make it my mission. Like, OJ is still looking for the real killer.

Speaker 2 I'm going to find the real tweeter of Jay Williams, the hacker that that specifically stole Jay Williams' password broke into his account to tweet out a take that Jay Williams would make anyways using the same punctuation and emojis that Jay Williams constantly corrected because this guy, big cat, this hacker, this guy's fucking good.

Speaker 2 He's real good. This guy is really good.
He spent. You should all be afraid.
If this can happen to Jay Williams, it could happen to any of us. He spent...
Think about this. He's spent...

Speaker 2 This hacker spent his entire life work getting into Jay Williams' account. Oh, Canadiens

Speaker 2 are going to the Stanley Cup final. Holy shit.
All right. Wow.
Good luck, Canada. Holy shit.

Speaker 2 They're Quebec, right?

Speaker 2 Are they considered a Canadian team if they win? Or are they a Quebecois team? Oh, my God. That's crazy.
They have, I mean, dude, we, so we've got to get back to Jay Williams.

Speaker 2 But you know when I knew that the Canadiens were going to win this series? And Whitney said they're going to lose? No.

Speaker 2 Well, no, that's that plus PFT and I got a text from both Whitney and Biz in back-to-back days saying boys we're going to do a live stream in Vegas for the Stanley Cup final when the Knights like pump the Canadians and it's like get ready here are the dates it's going to be epic we'll do PMT and Spit and Chicklett's crossover and we both were like that would be great we could still do a stream from Vegas with they wanted us to come out there yeah yeah and then going to no well we were gonna maybe, if the dates worked out.

Speaker 2 And then Biz tonight texted us when the nights were down. He's like, hey, we're going to do Long Island if the Islanders win.
So unfortunately, the Islanders are probably going to lose.

Speaker 2 It's going to be Tampa and Montreal. Yeah.
And you know what? Tampa. That's a crazy fucking series.

Speaker 2 I feel like this series right here, the Las Vegas Montreal series, got a lot of credit for being the stripper series, like the two best strip club cities in North America.

Speaker 2 Tampa is a very, very underrated strip club town, mostly because it's like. Oh, no.

Speaker 2 it's not that great, but it is prolific. Oh, it's lots of strip clubs.
Yeah, no.

Speaker 2 It is a

Speaker 2 big time. Happened to work in the WWE at some point, but it's still a very big strip club town.
All right, so the Canadiens, let's just give them a little shout-out right now.

Speaker 2 They were down, remember, they were down 3-1 to the Maple Leafs in the first round.

Speaker 2 Since that moment that they were down 3-1, they've gone 1-2-3. There's Mike Francesa

Speaker 2 11-2.

Speaker 2 Holy shit. 11-2 since that moment.

Speaker 2 And I love the explanation that our hockey guys give for their success, which is like there's something about you just put on that sweater in the playoffs and you're able to play well.

Speaker 2 Well, it's Kerry Price. Carrie Price is standing on his head for the entirety of the playoffs.
So that means he's hot. Yes.
He's been

Speaker 2 incredible. Absolutely incredible.
So, yeah. All right.
Well, let's get back to Jay Williams because Jay Williams needs a lot more talking. It's a very, it's it's a very wildly incorrect take.

Speaker 2 You're right. He picked like the worst possible franchise to use as an example.
If I were to relate it to this podcast, it would be like if we had Blake Shelton on.

Speaker 2 We're like, congrats to the first Blake to ever appear on part of my take. It would be as if you tweeted when Mookie Betts signed his long-term deal with the Dodgers.

Speaker 2 Congrats to the Dodgers for signing the first African-American player in Major League history. Major League history.
Mookie Betts. Yeah.
Like, that's how wrong.

Speaker 2 He picked the worst possible team to do this for. And the hacker excuse, I can't believe he went with it.

Speaker 2 We've said this a million times, but if you're going to say that you got hacked, you should at least put in a little bit of effort by tweeting out some porn links, some random Russian, some, I don't know, like

Speaker 2 trolling Chipotle or something.

Speaker 2 I feel like they always do that. So number one course of action for me would just like change your avatar to the mask from view from for vendetta.
Correct.

Speaker 2 Just put that up there, and then people be like, oh shit, Anonymous got another one. Right.
And it just start, yeah, and just tweet at Elon Musk, being like, I'm coming for you. Give me Bitcoin.

Speaker 2 Yeah, like that's it's so easy.

Speaker 2 Yeah, post a picture of a Bitcoin chart. Yeah, it's so easy to just

Speaker 2 give a little bit more plausibility to your awful, awful excuse.

Speaker 2 I don't think there's anyone who's having a worse like month than Jay Williams because he had the KD thing where KD just called him a liar. And then this is,

Speaker 2 dude, you cover the end of the year.

Speaker 2 He's probably having a worse month. Well, if you think he's dead.
No, I mean, yeah, good point.

Speaker 2 Right. He might be

Speaker 2 having an awesome month. Like having a whale orgy, just fucking every whale that he sees.
Exactly. But he, Jay Williams, you cover the NBA.
Like, that's what you do. How did you get this so wrong?

Speaker 2 I don't understand it. And how did you say that? Who told you to do the hacker thing?

Speaker 2 Well, the crazy part about Jay Williams is I think I need to go back and look at his exact career, but I'm pretty sure that he was a professional NBA analyst at the time that Doc Rivers won a national championship.

Speaker 2 Excuse me, an NBA championship

Speaker 2 with the Celtics. Was that 2009?

Speaker 2 10? 2010. 208, 8.
2008. So maybe not, but close enough.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 he had a little phase in between his basketball injury. Yeah, right, where he was trying to make a comeback and everything.

Speaker 2 But it's just, I actually think the hacking excuse is worse than the original tweet. And the original tweet might be the worst tweet of all time.
Like, that's how bad the hacking excuse.

Speaker 2 I changed my account.

Speaker 2 What is the exact phrasing? I'm going to use this as a template going forward. This one said

Speaker 2 it's. I got it right here.
As it relates to the Boston Celtics tweet that came from my account a couple of hours ago, dot, dot, dot, space. I did not post that, and my passcode has now been changed.

Speaker 2 Unbelievable. I want to see proof.
I want to see proof. I want to see proof that you changed your passcode.
I want to see the email saying that

Speaker 2 you just updated your password. And my favorite part: anytime somebody gives an explanation like this, like the fake hacker thing, if you just look at what they try to tweet to tweet through it,

Speaker 2 he didn't even do that good a job of tweeting through it. He just kind of carried on with his day, like he was still just analyzing Trey Young.

Speaker 2 And then, let's see.

Speaker 2 343 replies to that one, 5.9,000 replies to this one, 138 replies here.

Speaker 2 Drew Holiday is straight putting in work, 100 replies to that one.

Speaker 2 It's all about, and I guess, in a way, it's probably the smart thing to just pretend it didn't happen because he's not going to, well, maybe he won't lose his job in the short term, maybe long term.

Speaker 2 I just, he's just a clown now. Like, everyone's going to laugh at him and be like, dude, you did that.
Like, why not just say, I fucked up. I messed up.

Speaker 2 I don't know why I thought this was the first blackhead coach for the Celtics. That was clearly an idiotic thing.

Speaker 2 You should have even gone with the. I've reached out to Bill Russell.
I've had a conversation with you. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Like, there's so many different ways to go about this.

Speaker 2 Kiss the ring a little bit. Kiss the ring.
Post your kids. Post your dog.
Do all that shit. But the way you went about it was, I got hacked.
Come on, man.

Speaker 2 Reticulate. I need to find out what Jay Williams had to say about Kyrie stepping on Lucky the Leopard Kyle because this could be another case of the curse of Lucky.
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 It's getting everyone. Other Twitter thing before we get to Paul Rabel, RG3, just now.
I don't. Betting war, baby.

Speaker 2 He basically just got too horny online and fell in love with his wife in front of everybody. I think that's sweet.
I think that

Speaker 2 you should be encouraged in this society to be extremely inappropriate, horny to a woman online, as long as she's your wife. Yes.
It was probably in their vows.

Speaker 2 He just that he's allowed to just, she's allowed to thirst strap him online. And then, I mean, he is doing the Lord's work.

Speaker 2 He's like intentionally sticking his neck out there or some other appendage and drawing all the attention, taking all the slings and arrows in order to just like like help his wife's business get off the ground yeah and i'd like to that he retweeted his wife his wife was like thanks for always being there for me like rg3 like see she can she's cool with this it's greta no shit put some respect on greta's name yeah just uh anytime you think like hey here's a video of my wife's ass and i'm gonna tell everyone how hot she is just stop right there no no i say go for it robert go for it buddy well you are horny online i'm not i'm not horny uh but i do appreciate the right of another man in this society to be horny i think it's what our our forebears fought for.

Speaker 2 But I think it's also a very underrated thing about Greta that her Twitter or her Instagram handle is Greta G3.

Speaker 2 So she got the Griffin and she got the three. She's the third Greta? She's Greta G3.

Speaker 2 This is the guy who's got a bidding war, Jake. Oh, yeah.
Yes, Canon Fox.

Speaker 2 He blew them away with his audition. He's blown away by the audition.

Speaker 2 I can just picture like Jimmy Petara and Norby sitting there watching, like, they pop in an old, like a VHS tape of his audition that they recorded recorded on and they sit down and they just get blown backwards like the MTV commercials from like the 1980s.

Speaker 2 By the way, I just one last thing about Jay Williams because I do think that the playbook for him is if he loses his job at ESPN, he's going to be like the internet.

Speaker 2 He'll do a big like piece about how the internet bullied him and was mean to him. I give full permission Jay Williams to use every single piece of clip that was said in this show.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I would actually be honored for you to be like the guys that part of my take called me a clown and that really hurt my feelings. It sent me into a dark place.
Because you know what?

Speaker 2 If you had just said you made a mistake i'd have been like we all make mistakes we would have laughed about it but the fact that you tried to tell us that you were hacked uh-uh dude this there's never been a better situation to use the notes app than this than right after that that's all you have to do just notes app it just put put out like not even just a singular notes app if you had done the four different squares of screenshots of an extremely long notes app i think by the end of the night we all would have forgotten about it it's such a nothing burger if you just respond right away being like whoops my bad here are all the blackhead coaches in celtics history Boom, done.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God. We're going to say, Jake.
If that were to happen, there's an opening on John Shire's future staff to return to his alma mater. Oh,

Speaker 2 that would be make the first black assistant coach a Duke, right?

Speaker 2 Nolan Smith. I mean, there's a million dollars.
Nolan Smith is currently on staff. I know.

Speaker 2 And there's also, what, Cable? Is there for a while? Smith, Cable.

Speaker 2 Johnny Dawkins. That would be great.
He's around for a while. See, all right, there you go, McCurry.

Speaker 2 That's how I'm going to. Who has the college basketball podcast here, Jake?

Speaker 2 I'm one of the people on the podcast. There we go.

Speaker 2 I'll give Jay, this is Jay Williams out.

Speaker 2 If he goes and works on John Shire's staff and in his introductory press conference says, finally, there's some black assistant coach, dude, I will tip my hat and be like, I'm back on your side.

Speaker 2 All right, let's get to Paul Rabel.

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Speaker 2 Now here he is, Paul Rabel.

Speaker 2 Okay, we now welcome on a friend of ours. He is a recurring guest, a good friend of ours.
Thank you.

Speaker 2 It is Paul Rabel.

Speaker 2 We got a lot of things to talk about.

Speaker 2 I don't know where you want to start. You pick any topic and we'll figure out a way to get where we're going.
Let's jump right into it. Or you could give us a number.
I have a list of things.

Speaker 2 So I'm going to start with thanking you all from over a year ago. We did our first interview.
You advised me to grow the sport by showing a dick pic. Yep.

Speaker 2 And I didn't do that, but I got close to it a couple of weeks ago. Wait, no, I don't like what you're doing.

Speaker 2 I don't like what you're doing right now because you're trying, you're actually getting in front of the story that was topic number three.

Speaker 2 Paul Rabel is now officially, officially, Julian Edelman not only retired from the NFL, he retired from being the Thirst Trap King. You are now the Thirst Trap King.

Speaker 2 You are addicted to taking pictures and videos with your shirt off. You think? Yeah.
That many times?

Speaker 2 Dude, this video, we got to put it up there, but this video of you in the locker room after your first game, when everyone else is wearing their shorts and you're in your underwear,

Speaker 2 I cringe for you.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was bad.

Speaker 2 You're wearing underwear, and I think you're wearing, is it a sports bra? That was

Speaker 2 bra.

Speaker 2 I didn't see that taking over. I was trying to figure out whether or not to post it because you could see

Speaker 2 the mushroom shape.

Speaker 2 But it's the fact that everyone else had their shorts on, and you're like, wait, guys, we're going to do a quick video. Let me whip my shorts off.
And you give out the game balls in my underwear.

Speaker 2 I've been playing this game for 25 years, and it's a quirk of mine. As soon as the game's over, I take everything off because I'm just sweaty and I want to be done with it.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 So those who have played with me know that that wasn't a thirst trap move. But you do thirst trap.
It was risky.

Speaker 2 I've got hair everywhere. You know, you do thirst trap.
I have a on occasion. Yeah.
I mean, isn't it

Speaker 2 damn thirst trapping? Listen, if you admit it, it actually is okay. You're just lucky because you've built a brand that

Speaker 2 you can make fun of people and that is

Speaker 2 the engagement. Correct.
You guys stand alone.

Speaker 2 Yeah. You guys stand alone.

Speaker 2 Like, listen,

Speaker 2 everyone's envious. If I were in great shape like you, I'd probably have my shirt off all the time.

Speaker 2 So as long as you admit that, like, hey, yeah, sometimes I'll pop the shirt off because I want, you know, some people to slide in my DMs. I'm cool with that.

Speaker 2 Julian Edelman, he begrudgingly got to that point after the father's, the famous Father's Day post, where it was just him with his shirt off being like, happy Father's Day to my dad.

Speaker 2 You haven't done that yet. Is that what that was? It really was.
It was so, it was insane. But the underwear thing.
I'm getting in front of it. Wow.

Speaker 2 So was saying that that was attractive that you brought it up Yeah, because it would have been worse had we gotten to bring it up on our own terms look you guys told me to do it a version of that.

Speaker 2 Uh-huh. It's true.
I forgot about that

Speaker 2 Let's get the other ideas we had. I feel like we had a million good ones well water dogs

Speaker 2 using the the neon ball idea neon ball Here's an idea you haven't done Jake Marsh calling a game We're trying to figure that out. Who do we got to talk to? Sam Floyd at NBC.
So have you talked to him?

Speaker 2 We've talked to him. Should we call him? Right now? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Let's give him a call. All right.
I was ready to call him if you weren't. Okay.
Yeah, because I thought you were going to be like, all right, so

Speaker 2 Sam Flood runs talent at NBC Universal and NBC Sports. Just make sure you tell him that we're taping so that we can't get in trouble.
Right.

Speaker 2 What are you doing? Are you texting? Okay, you're calling. He's calling.
He's calling.

Speaker 2 Oh. Oh, since you started the voice.
Let's try it one more time. Let's try it one more time.
Oh, no.

Speaker 2 Trouble in paradise?

Speaker 2 Your call has been forwarding oh all right i'll try

Speaker 2 this work we'll try later in the show

Speaker 2 no oh

Speaker 2 whose phone is off oh man all right what are you drinking is that um that tea no it's uh vitamin c it looks like dips of water yeah i saw it and i was like oh who's dipping yeah well

Speaker 2 It was it was a semi-longer night last night. Oh, okay.
Okay. All right.
So so Jake, though, needs to get on the call. How do we do this? What's the latest? Because I did pass you on to their team.

Speaker 2 Is it done? Are we going to make this announcement now? Wait.

Speaker 2 I was waiting to hear from you. You're waiting to hear from me.
Yeah. I've not heard from anyone at NBC.
Sounds like you're big leaguing our boy Jake. No, I'm not big leaguing.
Tell them. Tell them.

Speaker 2 I am advocating. Am I not? Yes.

Speaker 2 You said you have influence, but Sam makes the final call. Sam makes a call, but

Speaker 2 I think we're going to get it done. Okay.
So it would be the Colorado weekend? Any game, anytime you're going to get it. I'll say Jake's right now.

Speaker 2 I know they want him to do the Water Dogs game for sure. I'll say it right now.
It would be the most watched game you have.

Speaker 2 Over your live tweeting? Yeah. Everything.
No, it will be a game. Jake has more watched.
No, it will obviously boost him.

Speaker 2 It will be a collaborative effort, but it will be the most watched game that you have.

Speaker 2 Like, not obviously, if it's on NBC Sports, it's not going to be as much as NBC, but platform to platform. It might be.
I think

Speaker 2 he's

Speaker 2 right. What my research

Speaker 2 from a rating standpoint, are you only planning on playing during the weekends where your game's going to be on NBC and not NBC Sports? We have games on NBC Sports and NBC. Why is your game?

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 you like to play on NBC. It's not my choice, guys.

Speaker 2 It's not my choice. It's out of your hands now.

Speaker 2 NBC makes this call.

Speaker 2 You know. And how'd you get Chris Hogan on your team? Our coach liked him.

Speaker 2 Gone wanted to give him a tryout. And what's your team's record? We're one and two.
Oh, really? Yeah. We're the water dog.
I didn't know that. Yeah.
We're the Water Dogs. We're two and one.

Speaker 2 Oh, that's better. I beat them into.
Well, I shouldn't say I beat a dog, but I beat the Water Dogs into shape.

Speaker 2 I used negative reinforcement to get the Water Dogs. I think it worked.
They just didn't shoot the first game. I don't know who the coach is.
Right. But he was on the hot seat.
Now he's not.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Andy Copeland's a good coach. He came from college.
He sucked week one.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 I didn't like that. You made that clear.
Yeah, I know. Isn't this good, though? Don't you want us to talk about it organically? Of course.
Yeah, I think it's fun.

Speaker 2 I've found my niche with La Crosse, and that is just criticizing my own team to the point where it's kind of awkward.

Speaker 2 And I've listened to the show earlier in the week when you guys are talking about power play. Have you talked to any of the players on the Water Dogs? Are they feeling pressure from ownership?

Speaker 2 Are they mad at Team PMT?

Speaker 2 I haven't talked to them,

Speaker 2 but my take is that it's a love-hate relationship.

Speaker 2 Yeah. They love us, they love you,

Speaker 2 but they also hate when you hate them. But it's again, But they love it when you hate them.
Right, it's results.

Speaker 2 And we, to talk about Monday's show, I don't know when this is going to air, but we were just actually talking about lacrosse.

Speaker 2 I don't know what the fuck he did to us, but we actually were talking about lacrosse. It's a good sport.
I want to punch myself in the face. Like, what am I doing?

Speaker 2 You'll stop saying that at one point. Don't go back.
I think that's part of the fun.

Speaker 2 As commissioner, have you found it hard to translate? You know, you've always been a player. You've been around the game for a while.
Now you're in charge of things.

Speaker 2 And you sometimes have to be the bad guy. So, like, with suspensions, things like that, you got a player biting another player's finger off.
Like, to me, I say, Let boys be boys.

Speaker 2 That's just that's that's part of the game. It generates headlines, right? So, on one hand, you're like, Well, lacrosse is in the news, that's great.
On the other hand, well, there's a finger missing.

Speaker 2 On the other hand, you're like, Oh, that kind of sucks. I got to suspend this guy.
So, like, how do you balance that between being the bad guy and being, you know, I'm just Paul, I'm your good buddy.

Speaker 2 So, I'm not the commissioner. You're not? No, no, shadow commissioner.
You guys know that. I'm a commissioner.
No, I actually co-founder. I do not know know that.

Speaker 2 I'm not the commissioner.

Speaker 2 So we have our head of player experience and our head of competition. So Seth Tierney and Brian Silcott run that.
We have a disciplinary and conduct committee, and I actually cannot make a comment.

Speaker 2 Who runs that?

Speaker 2 It's a Mike Rabel. No.
Mike and I are recused from any competition on field. Interesting.
It's in our laws. So can you get fined? You guys know that.
You have access to all the owners' documents.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I've read

Speaker 2 it. I'm going to be the commissioner.
I've poured through those. This feels a little bit egregious.
You guys know the rules. No, I don't.
Wait, would you get final?

Speaker 2 Would you get fined if you said something?

Speaker 2 I would be potentially in legal risk. Could we get, as owners, could we get fined? No, because you're not.
Yeah, you're just trying to impact your team so you guys can win.

Speaker 2 We can say whatever the fuck we want. You say whatever you want.

Speaker 2 You could get fined for saying stuff that you shouldn't say, but this isn't out of context. If you fish hook somebody, the person who's getting fish hooked should be allowed to bite your finger off.

Speaker 2 That might be your opinion. Could we get fined for saying that

Speaker 2 a month ago you hit us up and you're like, hey, we've just finished the script for this season, and the Water Dogs are going to lose their first game, and then they're going to win every other game and win the title.

Speaker 2 So just want to let you guys know this will be great for us. You wouldn't get fined, but we could press a suit because of the NDA that we have in place.
We have an NDA? Yeah. Putting Dan Bilzerian?

Speaker 2 What the fuck? We have an NDA. Everyone knows when you rig a league,

Speaker 2 everyone signs an NDA in advance. Give right.

Speaker 2 That's right. That's right.

Speaker 2 That NDA got it. I got you.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I see what you did because they're going to lose a couple of more games.
So technically what you said isn't exactly what's going to happen. Right, exactly.
But it's pretty close.

Speaker 2 Are we going to do a three-point line eventually? Yeah, we talked. We're going to do logos all over the field.

Speaker 2 For real? No. Oh.
Oh, you were talking about rock and jock when you'd have the five-point shot. That would be it.
What do you guys think? I think a three-point line would be cool.

Speaker 2 I think just make make goals worth four points each. Why? Because more score.
The higher the score, the cooler. The better.
Yeah. It was Tony Con.
That was the owner of the Jaguars.

Speaker 2 Do you want to see if he wants to invest in the league?

Speaker 2 Really? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, let's pitch him. PFT is right, though.
More scoring. Like, if the game ends 52 to 48, I guess you wouldn't.
If it was four points, you can't. Score Gamma.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I mean, our game was high scoring on NBC.
What was the final score? 15-14 in overtime. We lost.
Let me ask you this. If you just didn't watch that game, no, that was that game and you napped.

Speaker 2 Dude, I fell asleep during all these games. I can't believe that.
If you go out there in one weekend, the net is one inch wider and one inch taller. Does anybody realize?

Speaker 2 Yes. The players would, but the fans might not.
By an inch? Yeah, big time. Well, the goalies suck anyway.
What's up with that?

Speaker 2 What's up with that take? They get like 20 saves in a game. They're ridiculously talented.
I feel like every shot goes in. Every shot on goal goes in.
All you got to do is shoot it low.

Speaker 2 They can't get it. It's a more more difficult save when you shoot low, but right.

Speaker 2 I know. I'm not saying, listen, I'm not saying that it's a goalie problem.
I think it's just they're set up to fail. I think you said it was a goalie problem.
Might have been. I might have said that.

Speaker 2 I might have said that. But they are set up to fail.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's both.

Speaker 2 They don't suck. Who's the best goalie? I can't say that.
The best goalie? Yeah. Of all time.
Of all time. Of all time.

Speaker 2 Is it Dylan or Cody?

Speaker 2 I would say

Speaker 2 probably

Speaker 2 it's a good question.

Speaker 2 It changes over time. I mean, the best goalie that I played with was

Speaker 2 Jesse Schwartzman. And how many saves did he get? Like, what was his percentage? He would save the ball 65% of the time.
See, I guess that's... Okay, so that's where

Speaker 2 I struggle with it because, like, you think hockey goalie, hockey goalies are in the 95%. You know what I mean? They're that high? Yeah, 90%.

Speaker 2 But that sucks. That's why I don't like watching hockey because it's so goddamn hard to score.
Hmm.

Speaker 2 You know that what changed hockey forever was Patrick Waugh doing the butterfly. Yeah, yeah.
Because they never got down on their legs until that happened. So everyone was shooting.

Speaker 2 What's the butterfly going to be in lacrosse? Blaze Riordan does it. What does he do? He literally drops to his knees and he keeps his stick high and then he soaks shots in the midsection.

Speaker 2 Does he wear a cup? He soaks shots. They wear huge cups.

Speaker 2 It's no longer cups.

Speaker 2 They basically put pillows wait what's the guy's name blaze reardon his name's blaze his name is blaze you know blaze reardon we've talked about blaze reardon on the show yeah he's goalie of the year he's he's really talented i feel like i could score on him depends from where you're shooting

Speaker 2 10 feet probably yeah that's my problem see 10 feet's close if you're also i just i here's my problem with lacrosse is i you know like i feel like if you just run as fast as you can right in the middle and just shoot it you score every time that's right but defenses are gonna try to stop you from.

Speaker 2 You get jammed up trying to do that. But I guess I get frustrated because I'm like, dude, just fucking run in the middle.

Speaker 2 It seems that way. Don't you feel that way when you watch basketball? Why doesn't a guy just like, you see LeBron cut and dunk three times a game? You're like, why doesn't he do this every time?

Speaker 2 No, you know what it is? I just solved all of lacrosse. You need to have charges.

Speaker 2 You would want charges? Yeah.

Speaker 2 That would be awesome if guys could run into. Yeah.

Speaker 2 On the grass. Yeah.
It just has more penalties. Do you feel like it's hard to tell what's wrong with you? Charge.
Guys, they can charge me sick. And that solves the game.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 We're going to get back to Paul Rabel in a second. Before we do, I want to talk to you guys about...

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Speaker 2 Now more Paul Rabel.

Speaker 2 When you scored that goal the other week, the one where you like caught it in the air, you jumped in the air, caught it, and then took a couple steps and shot it.

Speaker 2 How quickly did you get on the phone with the ESPN and be like, hey, you have to make sure that this makes the top 10? As soon as possible. My goal.
Yeah, as soon as possible. My goal has to be.

Speaker 2 And I'm not talking seven. I wanted number three or higher.
Right. And it got nine.
Yeah. So that was tough.
Okay. Yeah, that sucks.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 How is it going? The real question, how is it going overall?

Speaker 2 Like, I feel like you guys, I do nap during the games, but I do also have found myself, I don't know what you've done to me, but I genuinely do enjoy watching lacrosse. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Maybe not the Water Dogs, week one. But

Speaker 2 like, how is it going overall? Do you think you've hit some of the marks that you've set out for? Or is it, you know? Yeah. I mean, it's gone really well.
So we've

Speaker 2 expanded. When we were first in here, we were talking about competing with MLL, and then we we merged with them this offseason.
So we are now just a singular professional outdoor lacrosse league.

Speaker 2 And all those players that were playing at ML previously either came on to new teams or are hoping to get on to a team. We expanded from six to eight teams.
Was that a hostile takeover?

Speaker 2 It wasn't hostile. It wasn't friendly, though.
It sounds like it wasn't

Speaker 2 friendly at first.

Speaker 2 Interesting. Back in 2017.
Right. How many are like, we're the big swinging dick on the block right now.
You have to join us. And that never happens in pro sports.

Speaker 2 It's usually the upstart league tucks into the existing one.

Speaker 2 How many teams did you guys resorb? All of them

Speaker 2 into

Speaker 2 perpetuity, but we just expanded one team with the cannons. Cannons, okay.
There's the team I was drafted to and the team that I got traded to. Got it.

Speaker 2 This offseason. Right.
Got it. Which happened organically.
By your brother, the commissioner.

Speaker 2 Got it. And also the team that Chris Hogan plays for.
Right. It just happened to happen.
Right. So, yeah, when can we get a big check? That's what I'm mostly interested in.

Speaker 2 So let's continue to talk about the PLL on the show.

Speaker 2 It makes a ton of sense for you because the bigger you guys bring attention to the games, the bigger the games get

Speaker 2 more revenue. Both negative, you need to say that.
Put that in there.

Speaker 2 Both positive attention.

Speaker 2 Negative attention to the game. Any attention is good to get it.
I will be bringing negative attention. Right.
Like, most of this interview is negatively positioning me.

Speaker 2 Well let me ask you a question that's more about lacrosse. Do you feel that your high pocket W pocket was detrimental to a lot of the beginner lacrosse players trying to emulate you?

Speaker 2 Great question.

Speaker 2 Who wrote that? I said what I said.

Speaker 2 Are you trying to buy time? Because you know that you've ruined it. I was just getting ready to Edelman and I realized that I was going to position myself with a thirst answer.

Speaker 2 No, it was the guy next to you. It was Billy.
Okay. So it's basically equivalent to the Ovechkin curve, which he really curves his stick, which makes it hard to play hockey, but it's a skill stick.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 what happened was when I first started playing, that's when radar guns were introduced at the professional level. And then the game became all about who can shoot the fastest, and people start

Speaker 2 getting big pockets and tightening their shooting strings, and then they can't play the game well except they can shoot a ball hard. Okay.
So that's probably the answer to your question.

Speaker 2 So it fucked up the skill at the youth level. It was kids just trying to chase a fastball and not develop all the other stuff

Speaker 2 to go into a game. It's like going out and just being a good three-point shooter.
Yeah. Well, Steph Curry has ruined basketball in a way.
You think so?

Speaker 2 Have you thought about doing like Paul Rabel camps to make up to the children where you go around and you teach the kids the other important skills?

Speaker 2 I was literally talking how you play crash on guitar and all these other things that you're going to need to know.

Speaker 2 Do you know what crash is about? Sex. Yeah.
Yeah. It's about fucking.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's a throw-strapped.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's his least favorite song. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 A band should always hit. They should always like their hits more than the people listening to it.
Correct. What Dave was early days is what the POL is early days of Lacross.
He used to busk.

Speaker 2 You know that? Yeah. He'd set his guitars to stand up and he'd play outside for 20 bucks.
That's pretty cool. And he absorbed Carter Beaufort.
And next thing you know,

Speaker 2 championships. Yep.
Multiple titles. And sold out venues.
Yeah. Which is where we're going to be.
So what's one thing that we can be doing better as owners to help grow the game?

Speaker 2 Honestly, you guys are two of our best owners. Thank you.
Two out of how many? Our cap table is pretty big. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So Joe Tai, Churning Group, CAA, Harris Blitzer Sports Entertainment, Arctos, Crafts,

Speaker 2 Blum Capital, Brett Jefferson, Sohildine.

Speaker 2 Rain Ventures.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 all pretty strong. See the crafts like Robert Kraft.
Yeah. So, he's one of the owners.
He's an owner. Okay.

Speaker 2 Did you feel like a little bit left out that you weren't invited to chip in on that birthday present for him? No. You dropped off the Bentley? No, I'm a lacrosse player.
I can't contribute to that.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 What's this man-up power play situation? Like,

Speaker 2 people keep coming at me being like, hey, dude, it's man-up. It's like, dude, they say power play.
It's a fucking power play. Okay.
So you're saying that?

Speaker 2 Paul Rabel, the greatest lacrosse player of all time, is saying it's power play, not man up. Everyone, shut up.
Yeah, because what you have then on the women's game is they're saying woman up.

Speaker 2 And it's become a gender thing. And we could just say, you could say player advantage.
That was the other thing we thought about. Nope.
Power play. It's a power play.
They're on the power. Right.

Speaker 2 It's pretty simple. Everyone knows it.
How does it work, though? Do they take one guy off? Yeah, one guy goes to the Sinbin. Got it.
Nice. I like the Sinbin.
Yeah. Do they shoot that?

Speaker 2 We don't, but we should. Yeah, that's what we were saying.
Yeah. The Sinbin? The Sinbin is way cooler.
It should be.

Speaker 2 send in. It should be like one of those old school

Speaker 2 things where you grab money because you don't pay the players, right? We pay them a fair amount. Oh, really? Yeah.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 Well, my guys were hitting me up saying that they wanted some cords light at the bar, and you actually still have to pay for that. Players always want more.
Yeah, that's true. Did you get the tab?

Speaker 2 I saw you were going to pass it through. Wait, yeah, I answered that question.
He's the shadow commissioner. Well, no.

Speaker 2 Remember, Mike Rabel is

Speaker 2 head of the players' union.

Speaker 2 Is that right? Do I have that right? No. No, it's your dad that's the head of the players union.
That's right.

Speaker 2 How many Vodka Red Bulls are we allowed to buy for our players per week?

Speaker 2 That's not in their rider. So you could probably...

Speaker 2 Is there a cap? No. No cap? No.
I love it. Do you think

Speaker 2 it's never going to go to a city model? I actually think that what you've done is worked in that respect, that you pick a team, there is no city, just go with it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I think we could as it grows, but right now, just looking at the audience size objectively and where audiences are all over the country, and then what we did with our network deal with NBC is like, let's optimize for distribution and viewership, and let's try to be where our audience is.

Speaker 2 So let's go on the road.

Speaker 2 The other thing is when we saw the Super League announce and then turn over, they were basically doing what we are doing already, which is these teams and these players have this value that's agnostic to geography, and we're going to take them everywhere because attention is what drives revenue

Speaker 2 more than geography traditionally. But geography still has a big pool.
So as we grow, we'll probably flip to that. And if we did, where would you guys take Water Dogs?

Speaker 2 I was going to say Seattle, just because then we could be like... We're bringing a friend to Postal.
Well, no, just a big press conference.

Speaker 2 We're like, we're bringing a professional franchise to Seattle over the Sonics. Well, yeah, I think it's the Water Dogs.
Maybe No one watches this.

Speaker 2 What's the biggest city in America that doesn't have a professional sports team? The ones that typically don't perform.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it might be Louisville. Louisville?

Speaker 2 That would be good.

Speaker 2 Georgia. Hawaii.

Speaker 2 Atlanta has had a number of teams come in and leave. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I'm trying to think. Where would we go? What city do we always trash? You guys don't like to travel.
I'm surprised it just wasn't like very fast. Cincinnati.
Yeah, Cincinnati would be good.

Speaker 2 Honestly, probably Vegas. Cincinnati would be good.
Vegas. Vegas would be sweet.
Everyone's going to try to get Vegas. Cleveland.
Yeah. Philly would be funny.
Riverside, San Bernardino.

Speaker 2 Ontario, California. Metro population 4.3.
Oh, Vegas. Yeah.
Vegas. You guys should just pull up Jeff Bezos and wherever you are or wherever you want to go.
That's funny. That's at the moment.

Speaker 2 I like that. I like that a lot.
Yeah. Cincinnati would be funny, though.
We just give free skyline chili to everyone and then no one comes to the game. And shut down the bathrooms at the game.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's chaos. Yeah.

Speaker 2 No, that's the name of a team. Yeah.
Right.

Speaker 2 You're on it. Wait, is Chaos? Yeah.
Oh, shit. I thought it was Chrome.

Speaker 2 No, I thought it was Chrome. It's Chrome and Chaos.
Got it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I know everything about the POL. Chrome, Chaos, Redwoods.
Yep.

Speaker 2 Whip snakes. Don't give me any more, Billy.

Speaker 2 Your team? Water Dogs. Cannons.
Yep.

Speaker 2 Two more. Atlai.
Yep. Atlas.
That's right.

Speaker 2 Both work. One more.
There's another one. Very, very forgettable team name.
Fuck.

Speaker 2 It is.

Speaker 2 No, don't give it to me.

Speaker 2 What's the first letter? It's an A. It's an A.

Speaker 2 Arrows? Nope. What is it? They use arrows.

Speaker 2 I don't fucking know. Archers.
Archers.

Speaker 2 Archers are kind of like cowards, right? When you think about it? They just stand all the way to the bathroom.

Speaker 2 They're like snipers, yeah. They don't get their hands dirty.
Legolas. Right.
They're just just fucking that. Sucks.
They're the number one team right now. They are.
Top of them. They're 3-0.

Speaker 2 They're 2-0. But they haven't played three games.
No, their goal difference is huge, though. Not battle 2010.
It's like 14. Oh, because they played us week one.
No, we did. That helped us.
Cannons?

Speaker 2 Cannons beat Water Dogs. It was like 9-1.
A lot of people are calling at halftime. A lot of people are calling her

Speaker 2 the Water Dogs frauds because their goal differential is only one.

Speaker 2 They've got two wins, one loss. Right.
Is the F-word applicable here?

Speaker 2 I'm not the commissioner. Right.
Who's the biggest fraud? That's your dog.

Speaker 2 Who's the biggest fraud in the league?

Speaker 2 Oh, man.

Speaker 2 Oh, this is good. What team or player? Are you saying player? It's up to you.
Yeah, you go with it however you want. Give us a take.
Who's the biggest fraud in the league?

Speaker 2 And you can't say us as owners.

Speaker 2 Well, I mean, if you polled everyone they'd say me there was an instagram post this offseason that got me hot eddie glasner who's a defender for the redwoods currently yeah i think he's one of their captains he uploaded an instagram story of his buddy and it just said rabel's a fraud

Speaker 2 and i screen grabbed it whoa and i saved it as my

Speaker 2 suspended for life he deleted it oh okay we did not suspend him for life okay he killed him but we haven't talked i unfollowed him he's at oh i got worse i like that the instagram king unfollows you i Yeah, the thirst trap king.

Speaker 2 You noticed that.

Speaker 2 Wow, that's actually awesome. You need more of this.
This is good. Bad blood.
So, why don't you fight him?

Speaker 2 I mean, I would. Can you fight in lacrosse? Yeah.
Oh.

Speaker 2 Well, we got to sell that more. Yeah.

Speaker 2 There was a fight in week three of our first season. And then what's happened was probably why the games have been so competitive.
Are

Speaker 2 the 2020 tournament was basically

Speaker 2 20 games in 14 days. So it was basically like a playoff.
So the competition was so high that it spilled over into this year. And the first two weeks, everyone's acting like this is single elimination.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So when that happens, fewer people take risks and there's less casual play.
And anytime there's a fight, you're making a five-minute trade on both sides.

Speaker 2 19 players dressed. We need a goon.
You need a goon or you need like a big score difference for a tilt to happen. Can we look into hiring Tom Wilson?

Speaker 2 I think we have someone sitting in this room that's our goon that could go into war mode. Billy B.
Take out their best guy?

Speaker 2 I don't think anyone would step to Tom Wilson except one person, Brody Merrill.

Speaker 2 Brody's the toughest motherfucker I've ever seen. What are his steps across?

Speaker 2 So he's I think he's 38, but he was.

Speaker 2 He break his hip.

Speaker 2 I mean, he held the heavyweight title in the NLL for probably seven years. Him and I mean, he's a big fucker.
He's 6'5

Speaker 2 from Ontario and chucks left and right.

Speaker 2 And yeah, he'll fight anyone. When was the last time you got into a fight? Because people are saying that you're scared, that you won't fight anymore.
Yeah, like a soccer. I haven't fought an hour.

Speaker 2 I'm a pretty boy. Yeah, I heard that as well.
Yeah. People are saying you're scared.
The last fight I got into was in the NLL, and I was traded the next day. Oh.
Yeah, which wasn't great.

Speaker 2 Did that have something to do with the fight? I thought I did all right. I hung in there.

Speaker 2 So are you hanging in there?

Speaker 2 I hung in the hole.

Speaker 2 Chin to elbow, jersey grab, reach, only counter. Okay.
So you wait for him to swing and then you manipulate him with the grab arm and try to get your one like a precise shot at him.

Speaker 2 Yeah, or you use the jersey grab to pop the nose. Yeah, the jab.

Speaker 2 So you're saying that you're not afraid to fight now? I'm not afraid to fight, but I wouldn't consider myself a great fighter. Okay.
And I also think it's, I also think it's a bad trade.

Speaker 2 No one wants to go go in a penalty box for five minutes. Yeah.
Sinbin. But yeah.

Speaker 2 You call it the Sinbin. Right.

Speaker 2 You're right.

Speaker 2 How many weeks are there this season? There's 11. And when does it end? September 18th.

Speaker 2 That's going up against football. I know.
I know. But we have an NBC window.
Let's not do that next year. So you want to truncate it further?

Speaker 2 I think you start a little bit earlier, but you can't. I'm just being

Speaker 2 signed your docs from the board meetings. Right.
I'm just saying you like that's a bad idea. Right.

Speaker 2 I don't disagree with that. Yeah.
Yeah. We got to clean that up.
Football is a juggernaut. It is.
I mean, it's just not. That's why you guys.
No, you guys are coming to the championship. When is that?

Speaker 2 It's in D.C. When is that? September 18th.
We'll be there. What day of the week is that?

Speaker 2 Saturday. It's a Saturday.
It's a Saturday. I'm not going to be there.

Speaker 2 You are going to come. No, I'm not.
Even if the water dogs aren't there? No, I'm not. Sunday the 19th.
Sunday and night. Sunday?

Speaker 2 Sunday and night. We're not going to be there.
Has the NFL started at noon? Yes. The NFL started? Are they still on next morning?

Speaker 2 We'll just be there. Yeah, yeah, we'll be there at the end of the day.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 See what the football team schedule is.

Speaker 2 Even know what I speak for the rest of the day. We're gambling now.
Now that you signed, you can't gamble anymore either because you signed.

Speaker 2 We need to get some stuff into the Barcelona Sportsbook app. All right.
So to be, I know we have some fun, but I actually

Speaker 2 do kind of consider myself a lacrosse fan now. It's fucking crazy.
I don't know what you did to me. I actually watched the games.
I fucking watched the game on Peacock. Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's great.

Speaker 2 You guys, I mean, not to get sappy, but you guys have been with us from the start. It's true.
We broke news here. Yep.

Speaker 2 That we were going to expand. You guys named a fucking team.
Yep. Which awesome name, awesome colors.
We do have the best colors by far. I love the colors.
Literally from scratch. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So, and now this obviously. Your owners.
This leads up to the big announcement we had here today.

Speaker 2 Paul Rabel is effectively retired from all lacrosse.

Speaker 2 You weren't supposed to do that.

Speaker 2 When you say there's a situation,

Speaker 2 I'm going to guarantee that we're just not going to actually have it.

Speaker 2 How much long are you going to play for real? Not much longer. Really? Yeah.

Speaker 2 235. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 This is a real question. Yeah, I get checked now and I have bruises that last for weeks.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 it's actually going to... My hips crack in the morning.
My name is Mayor.

Speaker 2 One more year? We got to do one more year.

Speaker 2 This has got to be like a Coach K thing. I think there's got to be a retirement tour.
Yeah. Paul Rabel is going to be.

Speaker 2 Now I know you're setting me up. No, you're not.
No, no, he is honored in every city that you go to. I can already see it right now.
Next year, this exact time, he's on his Paul Rabel retirement tour.

Speaker 2 He comes into this office. We're like, dude, you're so fucking lame for this retirement tour.
He's like, you guys told me to do this. Right.
Exactly.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we should make sure we rewind the tape for two years. I'm addicted, man.

Speaker 2 Now it's like, shit, I am complicit. Well, you shouldn't follow our advice.
Like, that's on you if you think that we're smart enough to believe.

Speaker 2 So our best advice is it's because the league's working. that's true.
And I really

Speaker 2 in here. I really do think that I have found like the making fun of our own team is so much fun.
Right. So, like, I've found my way to talk about lacrosse.

Speaker 2 Last year, I didn't really know how to talk about it because I didn't, like, I actually like to bully my own team. Doesn't Jerry Jones do that? Yeah.
But not as actively as we do. It's fun.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 So if we lose, it's a problem. I actually support the boys.
Yeah. We have a good cop, bad cop thing.
Yeah. I love our team.
They love it. I think they're perfect at everything, except for week one.

Speaker 2 Yeah, right.

Speaker 2 And shooting the ball. Like, there's something about a coach that can't get the boys ready for week one.
Like, that's a serious concern that I have.

Speaker 2 Week two is great, but we play them. So were you like, these guys suck?

Speaker 2 No, I didn't think that, but I could feel that they were tense. Yeah, they didn't shoot.
Yeah. Wait, did Commissioner Rabel be like, hey, you can't beat Paul? On week one?

Speaker 2 Well, I'm not a commissioner.

Speaker 2 Right. Your brother's a CEO? Yeah, he's a CEO.
Oh, interesting. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Do you you think that there's certain players that feel bad if they make you look stupid on a highlight or if they like

Speaker 2 attack you and knock you off your feet? It's the opposite.

Speaker 2 I went from having, I think, a lot of friends that I played against and with, and the reason I feel that way is they came over to join the league. So even if they didn't like me, they trusted me.

Speaker 2 To now having very few.

Speaker 2 That actually does suck. It sucked.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You're friends with us? Yeah, you can feel bad. I thought we were friends.
Yeah, no, best friends. Really good friends.

Speaker 2 But that means, so that's another thing. Like, once you retire, you'll probably gain some friends back.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 If I retire, then I'll sit in here and you guys, we can talk about commissioner stuff. And commissioners are hated.
So I just think I'll keep being in that place.

Speaker 2 I'm seeing. Do we have any other...

Speaker 2 Until I get out of lacrosse. Do we have any other questions? Oh, Billy had, are you playing better second week to prove to your girlfriend you're actually the goat of lax like you said you were?

Speaker 2 Playing better in the second week. So I was shitty in the first week? Yeah.

Speaker 2 I thought it was better in the first week.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no comment. Okay.
No comment. Is having a girlfriend good for lacrosse?

Speaker 2 I think having a girlfriend is a good thing.

Speaker 2 Is it good for our sport that we care so deeply about and want to grow?

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 Are you going to have the same amount of time to commit to lacrosse as you did in the past now that you've got a girlfriend? Well, in my heyday when I was actually playing my best ball, I was married.

Speaker 2 And then I stopped being married and started playing

Speaker 2 with best ball.

Speaker 2 Started for marriage. Please happen.

Speaker 2 That was my first retirement.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, I think that,

Speaker 2 yeah, I think there needs to be like wags in lacrosse like there are in soccer and hockey. I actually think it should be

Speaker 2 it should be mags. It should be moms.
So

Speaker 2 the players' moms

Speaker 2 should be in the stands because if they're anything like soccer moms or hockey moms, they fucking hate each other and they hate like each other's children and they get mad when you know their son doesn't do as well.

Speaker 2 You get the moms in a little group together in the stands and let them duke it out. Have them like throwing beer on each other.
That's what you

Speaker 2 duke it out amongst themselves, not with the girlfriends. Parent fights play.
Dads running on the field and trying to punch people.

Speaker 2 That's all fun. Right.
And what do you guys think about the refs? The refs. They're great.
They do a great job. They do a great job.
Good.

Speaker 2 I mean, it's a thankless job, right? Right. No one shows up wanting to be a ref.
There was a clip of I we have yet to play a game where we get more power plays than the other team. Right.

Speaker 2 Like,

Speaker 2 I have an issue with that. With the officiating fine for this, but how much do you pay? How much do you pay them for real?

Speaker 2 They get paid their quote as they're not officially unionized, but they're a cohort of refs. I'm just thinking, like, what, where I should start to buy them.

Speaker 2 We should just buy all the refs. Look, look.
Like, the refs can be given. You have your Carda.

Speaker 2 You showed me your Carda, Link.

Speaker 2 You have stocks now that are into your...

Speaker 2 We can't talk about this. Right, right.
Okay, that's fair. So

Speaker 2 you can't pay the refs. What if the owner is unionized? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Have you thought about that?

Speaker 2 Yeah. I'm not sure that that's a yeah, owners, former unionist power new union did.
Working the way that the way that owners owned. That's Robert Kraft, the working man sticking together.

Speaker 2 The way the owners unionize is they just fire us. Right.
They fire the front office.

Speaker 2 I think it's called collusion when owners do it. Now that you think about it.
Yes.

Speaker 2 Side of the corner.

Speaker 2 All right. Well, give us one.
Let's end with this. What's one thing we can do better? What can we do better for you? Wow.

Speaker 2 Wouldn't have thought that I would be sitting here with that question.

Speaker 2 being genuine to

Speaker 2 be big

Speaker 2 genie in the bottle.

Speaker 2 We are not going to reverse it on you once you get sincere with us. Nope.
We're going to take it face value. Yes.

Speaker 2 Host a water dog on the show. Oh, okay.
Yes. Like an actual water dog.
Like a Newfoundland

Speaker 2 player. No,

Speaker 2 I want to actually have our

Speaker 2 Drew. Snyder.
Snyder. Yeah.
And also, our goalie's cool. Drew's got a talented girlfriend.
She's a musician in Hollywood.

Speaker 2 So we want

Speaker 2 not a not a mag, but a wag. Okay, what about the guy with long hair and the mustache? Mickey Schlosser.
Yeah, Mickey Schlosser's cool. I think you don't have Mickey, Drew, and the goalie.
Dylan?

Speaker 2 Dylan? It's Mikey.

Speaker 2 Is it Mikey or Mickey? Mikey. Mikey? Mikey.
Mikey. All right, Mikey.
It's spelled Mickey. Yeah, Mickey.
M-I-K-I. See, this shows I'm not really a commissioner.
I didn't even sign his deal.

Speaker 2 So Mickey, Dylan, Dylan is our...

Speaker 2 He's going to fucking hate me for that. That motherfucker doesn't know my name.
Well, Jake got it right because he's going to be announcing it. Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 2 Dylan is our goalie? Dylan's your goalie. Yep.
Good guy. And

Speaker 2 Drew Snyder. Great guy.
Bring all three of them on. And if you combine three lacrosse players, you might have the personality of one regular athlete.

Speaker 2 But I was going to finish bringing a dog on once a week through the end of the season. I mean, if you bring a puppy into this studio, I will absolutely pet it and take care of it.
No,

Speaker 2 we'll definitely have someone on the water dogs on. That actually would be fun.
Yeah. I thought you were going to say go to a game.
I was like, no.

Speaker 2 I think it's going to happen organically.

Speaker 2 You love the PLL. You know.
I do love the PLL, but I'm not going to. You're trying to reconcile with it internally right now because you grew up hating lacrosse.
I didn't even grow up.

Speaker 2 It's never crossed my mind. Right.
And now it's all in your mind. That's all I think about.

Speaker 2 I woke up.

Speaker 2 And I swear to God, first thing I thought when I got out of bed, I was like, does Paul and Rob Pinnell not get along on the Atlas? Is it like a Kyrie LeBron scenario? Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

Speaker 2 Does neither of us play there anymore because of that? Good question, Billy. You fuckhead.
You blew up the team. They had to blew up.
No, I actually, you know, we both got traded off of Atlas.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we didn't talk about this.

Speaker 2 The co-founder of the league got traded by one of the coaches that he participated in the hiring process for

Speaker 2 to the Cannons. And Rob Pinnell got traded.
Ryan Brown got traded, who's with the Water Dogs. And all of us are playing well.
So they blew up the whole...

Speaker 2 We didn't play well in 2020. Oh, but you won in 2019, right? Nope.
Oh. Haven't won in a while.
I know my history.

Speaker 2 Who won't

Speaker 2 two times? Two times. So they're bad for lacrosse.

Speaker 2 You could play. If they win the third time, that's bad for lacrosse, officially.
That's what happened in the NHL when they started. I think the Canadians won the first three.
Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 2 We're told that you have a very important podcast to do right now called Token CEO. Yes.

Speaker 2 Are you going to go on there and bash us? No, I love you guys. All right.
We gave you some tough love.

Speaker 2 I mean, but I actually do like lacrosse. It's the right stuff.
It's fucking gross. I hate it.
I really don't. I don't have another.

Speaker 2 God damn it. That should have been my wish.
I don't talk shit about La Crosse.

Speaker 2 I don't have enough time in my life to add another sport, and La Crosse has somehow gotten into the rotation. It's more.

Speaker 2 So, what are you cutting? Nothing. If you had to cut a sport.
Time with my son. You happy you did that? Yeah, you did that.

Speaker 2 If you were to cut one sport, what would it be? La Crosse.

Speaker 2 Easy. Can we end the segment before that?

Speaker 2 Walram, the best. Thank you.
Thanks, Paul.

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Speaker 2 Okay, let's wrap up. We got Fire Fest of the week.
Henry, would you like to start? Sure.

Speaker 6 My Fire Fest was that the creator of Game of Thrones, so this is like one of those things. Game of Thrones was obsessed with it, loved it, you know, was fully invested into it.
Ace season sucked.

Speaker 6 Took me a long time to get over. It was just a shitty, shitty feeling when you're so invested in something and then it just, you know, gets wasted away.

Speaker 6 But I had gotten over it. It had been a long time, been like two or three years, whatever, since it came out.
Hadn't really thought about it.

Speaker 6 And then today, George Martin says, he regrets letting the Game of Thrones series surpass the books. I wish I'd stayed ahead.
I had a five-book head start.

Speaker 6 I never thought they'd catch up with me, but they did. That made it strange.
The show was ahead going in somewhat different direction.

Speaker 6 So basically, he was just trying to be like, yeah, I also thought the ending sucked.

Speaker 2 Uh-huh. Whoops.
But he's also sorry, guys. He's also like, my bad, that one's on me.
Hands off.

Speaker 6 Which just then refreshes all the memories. And you're like, yeah, that.
It really sucks how bad they fucked that show up.

Speaker 2 It's also been hilarious for the last, like, I don't know, four years watching George R.R. Martin periodically do interviews, being like, yeah, I'm working real hard on the next book.

Speaker 2 It's almost done. And I don't think he's written a single word.

Speaker 2 If you look at anything that he's said in the press recently, I think he's just completely lying about it. I don't think he's started the next book at all.
Yeah, I agree with you.

Speaker 2 He just basically was like, oh, they'll never make it this fast. I mean, but also respect to George R.R.
Martin because he's cashed in. He's probably like sitting on a weird beach somewhere.

Speaker 2 I probably had a beach guy.

Speaker 2 I'll take that back. He's sitting in like a dimly lit pub somewhere wearing a felt hat.
Dude, he's a pants at the beach guy. Yeah.
He's sitting in a library somewhere by himself. Yes.

Speaker 2 And just being like, yeah, I'm definitely hard at work on this. Psych, I have enough money to kill God, so I'll be fine for the rest of my life.

Speaker 6 But I mean, there was a global pandemic. We had the whole world was locked in their houses, and no one was like, you should watch Game of Thrones.

Speaker 6 Like, that's when you know it was how bad of a fuck up it was. I just remember everyone talking about shows you should watch and stuff, and no one was like, watch Game of Thrones.

Speaker 2 I tried that. Loved it until, actually, you know what? I didn't really.
It just gets me mad.

Speaker 6 I think about it sometimes. I'm like, oh,

Speaker 2 I love Game of Thrones.

Speaker 6 I should watch it, but I know if I start watching it, I'm just going to get mad.

Speaker 2 I didn't. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Because I'm going to get invested again knowing that it sucks at the end. So it's like, what's the point?

Speaker 2 When I watched it, because I'd seen the last season one time before when it was happening in real time, but when I watched it through the entire thing,

Speaker 2 I thought the last season sucked, but I wasn't like pissed off about it. But that's because I didn't have like years invested.

Speaker 6 You You didn't invest time, right?

Speaker 2 I didn't spend like two years waiting for that last season. I was mad that it sucked, but yeah, I was the same way.
I had binged it in like a matter of months, so it wasn't.

Speaker 2 People invested years and years of their life. We should get him on the show.
He's a big Jets fan. Perfect.
George R. R.
Martin, care to explain yourself?

Speaker 2 Yeah. We'll help you write the next season of it.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Just do.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 we'll write the next book. How do you feel about one of the dire wolves having a boner? It's question number one.

Speaker 2 And then they get lost north of the wall. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 We could actually make this work, Judge.

Speaker 2 Absolutely. All right, PFT, your Fire Fest.
My Fire Fest of the week is there's a massive blood shortage in America. Oh.
There's a big blood shortage because I guess people aren't taking

Speaker 2 time out. People aren't taking time out to go give blood anymore because we've spent the last year making a lot of sacrifices in the name of public health.

Speaker 2 I think it's the last thing on people's minds. I was thinking that the three of us could start some sort of a group,

Speaker 2 like a berserker blood organization. I'm in.
Count me in. We just encourage people to go out, donate blood.
You're saving lives.

Speaker 2 We had Greg Olson on the show earlier this week, and he told us about an easy way to save lives, which is becoming an organ donor. An easier way to save lives is by becoming.

Speaker 6 But PFT, I don't really have a lot of money, but I like to drink.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's a good point, Hank. But the great thing about giving blood is if you give blood, you get drunk off like half beer afterwards.
So it's actually very economical. Are you saying

Speaker 2 are you saying that like the people who have been doing outreach to try to get people to donate blood have just not been doing their job? They haven't been doing their job.

Speaker 2 They just haven't been getting the message out there. I think, you know what I think happened?

Speaker 2 I think a lot of people tried to do the whole donate blood thing for clout last year and they didn't have any follow-through on it.

Speaker 2 So they weren't able to actually enact change. I think that we could actually encourage people here.
And also, if you if you donate blood, you get like a little lightheaded.

Speaker 2 If you mix that with a workout, you feel like you're a god almost. You feel like you're this big, like behemoth of a man.
All you do is watch football and eat meat

Speaker 2 and talk about sports. I'm Mr.
Meat. You are Mr.
Meat. I eat the most meat in this room.
I'm just thinking that, like, you know, you could save a life if you donated blood. Yeah.
All right.

Speaker 2 Something to think about. I'm in.
I'm in. Count for it.
The Berserker Blood Cult. We call it the BBC.
You know what?

Speaker 2 You sold me. All right.

Speaker 2 You are a great salesperson when it comes to this. Thank you.
I'm just trying to be an ambassador for health.

Speaker 2 Write down Mr. Meat counts for one pint of blood.
All right. Put me down.
Put you down for one. Yeah.
All right.

Speaker 2 My Fire Fest is that we went to Stu Finder's house and I'm old and I'm tired and I'm fucking like my whole body hurts from playing wiffle ball and wrestling with Billy in the pool.

Speaker 2 Also,

Speaker 2 I think that because we haven't been out in public and doing things and like taking pictures, we were just getting roasted.

Speaker 2 Every picture that was posted yesterday, people were just going over with a fine-tooth comb, being like, look at this, look at that, look at this.

Speaker 2 Because that's what the internet loves to do, and we haven't given them a chance to do that in a very long time.

Speaker 6 And there's going to be video coming out, too. That's the worst.

Speaker 2 Are you going to selectively edit that as well? No, I'm not.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 6 I'm worried about myself.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, it's not good.

Speaker 2 The worst part about being fat is when people take pictures of you, you look even fatter. Also, fuck the people that are like, no, you don't have a six-pack.

Speaker 2 I said that a week ago. Yeah, that's true.
I brought that up, that I don't have a six-pack.

Speaker 6 And people are like, dude, you don't have a six-pack. I'm like, yeah, I know.
I said it that I'm working to get this. It's crazy.

Speaker 2 I really haven't got a six-pack. Give me a few more.

Speaker 2 Do this for me, AWLs. Next time you want to roast us, post a picture of yourself in the reply.

Speaker 2 That's your opinion. I'll retweet a good roast if you look hotter than all of us.
Not only a picture of yourself, but a picture of yourself standing at the exact same angle that we're standing at.

Speaker 2 Yes. It is angle season big time.
And I'll let you know that I think all the pictures that Hank posted online today were candid shots, which is always, that's always a real treat.

Speaker 2 Just really letting it all hang, like out of breath. Yes, standing sideways, like reaching out and touching our knee because it's sore.

Speaker 2 And we're definitely at the age where just spending a day outside, if I'm outside for eight hours in a day, the next day I feel worse than any hangover you could possibly give me. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I don't want to say that I'm an indoor cat now. Yeah, I don't want to say we're victims in any way, but we do get bullied really hard online whenever a picture drops.
When the new pictures drop,

Speaker 2 it is a roast show. It's bad.
And you know what? Unfortunately, it's a roast show every time I look in the mirror every morning, so I see it. I know it.
I've got to tighten it up. We'll get better.

Speaker 2 Mr. Mead is back.
But yeah, playing Wiffleball and wrestling with Billy in the pool was a lot. What else do we play? Demi.
Demi.

Speaker 2 Demi was fun. It was okay.
I enjoyed Demi hand. I thought it was okay.
It's hard to see. Like, there was a lot of moments when we were playing Demi where it's like, what are we doing?

Speaker 2 Yeah, but most of the time,

Speaker 2 I got a couple of them. What was crazy was Jake was like dominating at Demi, and he didn't even have his glasses on.
I know.

Speaker 2 I think Jake just wears the glasses because he thinks it makes him look more professional.

Speaker 2 There was a moment, and I'm sure if you want to go see Stoolsey, it's all there, but we started just playing a game of like

Speaker 2 football-rugby hybrid with a greased-up watermelon. And I was just wrestling.
I was just wrestling Billy, and after like 20 minutes of it, I was like, ow, my wrist hurts. Ow, my knee hurts.

Speaker 2 Like, why am I wrestling a 22-year-old? This is a very good way to hurt myself. I realized it was about time to hang him up when I had Glenny Balls apologize to me twice for kicking me in the balls.

Speaker 2 At that point, it's like, okay,

Speaker 2 I don't need to

Speaker 2 have my virility and fertility stolen via Glenny Balls' big toe. I was just hanging off Billy as he was trying to get a watermelon out of his hands.
Like, what are you doing with your life?

Speaker 2 But Stu is a great host.

Speaker 2 We love being out there. People pleaser.
I do want to go out to his house again and again, especially in the summertime. Yeah, more rifleball.
I love being in Long Island. We got to stretch.

Speaker 2 And on his pool. Yeah, he did say Long Island.
We're Long Island people now, I guess, because they love us out there.

Speaker 2 All right, Billy. Or no, Jake and then Billy.
Billy will wrap it up with Fire Fest and a recap. Yeah.
A couple of things. Shout out The Matt Chisholm.

Speaker 2 Three minutes, 25 seconds on the Billy balloon popping challenge. Which was electric.
Billy almost threw darts at us, but that was very funny.

Speaker 2 It was a bad beat, too, because he was done at about two minutes or so. Yeah.
And then the last one was real doozy. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Second, earlier in the show, you guys chatting with Paul Rabel about a potential proposal. Oh.
And I'm here to say. Breaking Moose.
This is Breaking Moose.

Speaker 2 I can't do it. I'm at a.

Speaker 2 Breaking Moose. Go ahead.
Go ahead, Hank. I did it.
Dude, no, really do it.

Speaker 2 That was it?

Speaker 2 What, the fucking cow doesn't want to come out of the barn anymore? What was that?

Speaker 2 It's late. But it's for a big announcement? Well, it's not breaking.
We've fucking known for a while. Oh, that's actually true.
But, Hank, take it back. Reverse it, you guys.
Reverse it.

Speaker 2 For the AWLs, breaking news. Okay.
It is happening. July 31st.
A double header. I'm Peacock.
I will be doing the play by the way. Jake on the cock.
Yes, Jake.

Speaker 2 That's a good hashtag, Jake on the Cock. Jake on the Cock.
Yes. Thank you guys.
It would not be possible without all of you guys guys in here. Paul Rabel was a big advocate.

Speaker 2 Dave Erica, everyone green lighting it. Very thankful.
Going to be fun. Water Dogs, second game.
They're playing the defending champion whipsnakes. 10.15 Eastern Time.

Speaker 2 Is this a legacy game for Jake Morris? Oh, yeah. Some kid came up to me at the Islanders game, and he's like, big cat, can I get a pick? I was like, yeah, of course.
He's like, go, dogs, go.

Speaker 2 And I was like, what?

Speaker 2 Does he think I went to Georgia? Did Doug's coach at Georgia?

Speaker 2 And then I was like, oh, he's talking about the Water Dogs.

Speaker 2 Who's going to be your partner in the booth?

Speaker 2 His name is Ryan Boyle.

Speaker 2 Wait, what is it?

Speaker 2 Assuming it stays in place, Ryan Boyle. That's what I'm saying.
What the shit we say about him? Wait, who is it?

Speaker 2 You said it twice. I haven't heard it.

Speaker 2 Go ahead. I'm not going to say anything.

Speaker 2 Ryan.

Speaker 2 Ryan Boyle. I'm excited to meet with him and work with him.
He's going to be great. Where do you think he went to college?

Speaker 2 Let's hope it's not Johns Hopkins. Let's hope it's not Dill.
Princeton. Oh,

Speaker 2 fans are smarter than you. Yeah.
You'll have to concede that. Fine with me.
Just so you know, right out of the gate, you just have to be like, listen, you know, you're smarter than me.

Speaker 2 Also, if there's like a backdoor play, you got to like elbow and be like, that's the old Princeton backdoor play there. Yep.
Broadcasters love bringing up that shit from 1997. I'm excited.
Yes.

Speaker 2 I'm excited. Thank you, guys, really means a lot.
Yeah, let's make it

Speaker 2 31st double hunter.

Speaker 2 Let's make it the most watched broadcast on the PLL season. Let's do that.
Yeah, the most viewed cock on the internet. Yeah, because we want Jake to keep fulfilling his dream.

Speaker 2 We want Jake to end up one day way better than all of us. Oh, that's tough to do.
You guys really touched on it. Shut up, you motherfucker.

Speaker 2 Just

Speaker 2 shut up, shut up. Shut up, patronize.
Shut the fuck up. I mean it.
Shut the fuck up, Jake. Just shut up.
All right, Billy. Firefest.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Oh, you're fire. Oh, you're still going.
That's certainly not a Fire Fest.

Speaker 2 I thought the fact that they were going to get you and Ryan Boyle in a big beef before your broadcast was a fire fest.

Speaker 2 Ryan Boyle.

Speaker 2 To your point earlier, I also got roasted for a picture, but it was because I was holding my nose as I was jumping in. And people destroyed me.

Speaker 2 But the first few times I jump in and water shoves up my nose. I don't want that happening.
I don't know what's so bad about that. You got to blow out your nose to jump in.

Speaker 2 These people, screw you, for making fun of me.

Speaker 2 Jake, they can't make fun of me. That's our listeners.
Yeah, I appreciate them, but I got to speak up for myself. It doesn't sound like you do appreciate them.

Speaker 2 Of course I do.

Speaker 2 They're looking out for your image. Everything I said about watching Jake on the peacock, just strike that from the record.
No. You don't boycott this game.
He just said, screw you.

Speaker 2 Can I give you a little tip? When you jump in a pool, just go when you land. And that's all you have to do.
Most of us learned that when we were like seven. But the water up in her nose, it stings.

Speaker 2 What are you talking about? It's not just stinks. It's like annoying.
Yeah, I mean, I am, but.

Speaker 2 You look on Billy's face when he's like, I love you so much. Billy's like, there are so many things I'd like to say right now, but I know how short my leash is.

Speaker 2 This is just the beauty of Jake, though. I love Jake because he's like, he's about to be announcing a real PLL game.

Speaker 2 He's going to be going on to bigger and better things someday, and he's still like, that will pesky water up your nose.

Speaker 2 It's the worst. It's the worst.
I got a prediction. I think one day Jake will be calling a national championship NBA game.
Whoa.

Speaker 2 That would be great. The finals.
He said that. The final tour today.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And he was doing that to cover up the mistakes.
That one was a joke. That's the one we're talking about.
You're talking about finals. Top four championship game or

Speaker 2 something making all games. Both of them.
Hybrid. Yeah.
I think the national championship plays, by the way.

Speaker 2 No, it definitely doesn't.

Speaker 2 You're talking about the NBA.

Speaker 2 100% doesn't. Get that natty, boys.
This is now the bargaining phase of PFT. Screwing that up.
No, get that. It actually is way better that way.
Get the natty.

Speaker 2 What about Natty? That's why we play. I already said it, except it's international.
Yeah. All right.
Championship. Billy.
Fire Fest and recap.

Speaker 2 My Fire Fest is that when we were playing Wiffleball, started out, dinger, first play of the game. It was on a good, you know,

Speaker 2 side, not off Big Hat. Then, about in the second inning, there was a big fly ball.
It was in right field. No one was there.
I was in center field. Tracked it real nice.
He was in left field.

Speaker 2 Left field. Tracked it real nice.
Ran out there. Positioned myself right under the ball.
But earlier in the day, we'd been playing a game involved Crisco. There's a lot of Crisco in my hands.

Speaker 2 Seriously, and I dropped it. But that's not the worst part.
No, it's not. I struck you out.
No, that's not the worst part. But I did strike you out.
No, this is the better part.

Speaker 2 But say I struck you. I was pissed that I dropped it, so I was going to make up for it by throwing him out at home.

Speaker 2 Then I picked up the wiffle ball, and wiffle balls, pretty light, pretty, like, you know, like,

Speaker 2 not a very explain wiffle ball.

Speaker 6 Shades of Manny Ramirez in left field is pretty much what I would say.

Speaker 2 So I tried to throw it, make like, you know, like a nice dive

Speaker 2 directly.

Speaker 6 And it went directly into the ground.

Speaker 2 It just went directly into the ground. It went maybe five feet and ten feet a little harder.
He tried to throw it long. He threw it down.
First time fielding that day. We didn't warm up.

Speaker 2 We didn't throw the ball before.

Speaker 2 Anyway, he lost snow. Then I got struck out by Big Cat.
It was terrible because he kept painting the outside of the chair. I thought they were all balls.

Speaker 2 But I didn't get that one dinger. And no, then Big Cat threw one down the wall.
That's too far. And I hit it, and it went really far.
But then fucking Dana just like batted it to himself.

Speaker 2 So this is just a full recap of the game.

Speaker 2 No, it was just my

Speaker 2 adventures. My adventures.

Speaker 2 This is like the live look.

Speaker 2 That's when Barry Bonds was going for the home run record, and we saw every at-bat. We just saw every Billy live look into Billy's bats.

Speaker 2 I'll give Billy this: the throw from left field was so bad. Spectacularly bad.
It made me fall down. It was 150 miles an hour directly into the ground.

Speaker 2 I just wanted to get in front of that. My legs gave out watching you do that.
It was so bad. It was so bad.
Anyway,

Speaker 2 so I made an equation for the respects, the amount of respects an NBA player gets after he retires. Oh, wow.
So it is the delta change in years since retirement minus 20

Speaker 2 times championships

Speaker 2 plus

Speaker 2 Nike money divided by current weight times 1,000. Okay.
And that's how many respects. I actually think this makes sense.
It does. Say it one more time.

Speaker 2 Change in years since retired. All right.
So, for example, that would be like Charles Barkley when he retired. I don't know, late 99.

Speaker 2 Let's say, yeah. So let's call it 20 22 years.
Yeah. 22.

Speaker 2 Let's call it 20 years just for easy money. 20 years minus 20, zero.
Okay. Times championship.
Oh, that's also zero.

Speaker 2 Plus, Nike money.

Speaker 2 A decent amount.

Speaker 2 While he's playing, probably like...

Speaker 2 Wait, was he? No, I don't think he was Nike.

Speaker 2 Was he Reebok? Or Converse, maybe? No, he has his own shoe. He's got his own shoe.

Speaker 2 Would you say 40? No, he was.

Speaker 2 It has to be Nike money. All right.
It has to be only Nike money. Only Nike money.
Because that's how Jordan fits on the shoes. Yeah, no, he he was.
Because the Sir Charles commercial was Nike.

Speaker 2 That was when he was, I'm not a role model.

Speaker 2 Divided by his current weight, so it's like 330 million. So it's probably

Speaker 2 50 million divided by...

Speaker 2 50 million divided by 330 times 1,000.

Speaker 2 330 times 1,000.

Speaker 2 That is what you're dividing.

Speaker 2 5 million?

Speaker 2 This is 150 million. Why did you have to make it like such high numbers? You also made...

Speaker 2 No, you times the weight by 1,000, and then that's what you divide the money by. Oh, okay.
All right.

Speaker 2 I got you. I got you.
I got you. So 330 times 1,000.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 let's see. 50 million

Speaker 2 divided by... Okay.

Speaker 2 He gets 1,500 respects. That seems like a good amount of respects for Trust Buy.
It's not as much. Actually,

Speaker 2 let's make it like 330 times 10,000. Okay.

Speaker 2 I mean, this is all great mathematicians.

Speaker 2 They don't just come up with it right away. So then it's 150 respects.
3.0. Okay.
Yeah. But if you compare that to Jordan, Jordan has like

Speaker 2 a million respects. Infinity respects more.
Like exponentially more respect. Got it.
Okay. Okay.
Good one. Boom.
All right. I like the Billy formula.
Oh, yeah. And then,

Speaker 2 what kind of writer do you guys think George R. Martin is? You think he's like a drug guy?

Speaker 2 No,

Speaker 2 if he's a drug guy, it's like weird shit. Like he has a like he licks a toad.
Like wormwood. Yeah, yeah, like absolutely.
He's a drunk, drunk writer. He drinks mead and then writes.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 So, also, do you know that Greta Griffin's last

Speaker 2 is G3 as well?

Speaker 2 I'm fucking with you.

Speaker 2 How's it going, Billy? You got me. You got me.
I'm also. Also, good, you.

Speaker 2 Also, Greta's sister's name is Grit. Yeah.
And she's Olympian. Pretty crazy.
Also, you guys.

Speaker 2 Does she have a fat ass? I don't know.

Speaker 2 It's a test. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I'm not married to her. You can't say it online.

Speaker 2 If you guys are going to get down with Long Island, Long Island is a huge lacrosse hotbed. Nope.
It's huge. I'm out.
I don't like Long Island. Long Island is like the biggest lacrosse hotbed.

Speaker 2 It's the worst way to sell it. So, yeah.
Did you listen to yourself? Well, those are your people.

Speaker 2 Those are your people. I like their iced teas.
You just.

Speaker 2 Out. Denounce Long Island.
Yeah, I'm out.

Speaker 2 Say no more. For that reason, I am out.
Perfect.

Speaker 2 Okay, Long Island just had the greatest shark tank pitch to us of all time. And then the last second, they just were like, and check out this lacrosse.
And we're like, nope.

Speaker 2 A new frog just dropped, named after Led Zeppelin. Funk.
Wow, what's its name? The Led Zeppelin Rain Frog. Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 I thought maybe it was going to be like a Misty Mountain Hop or something, like some cool rain song. A good name for like a

Speaker 2 Venus flytrap would be Robert Plant, though. That would be a badass name.
That would be cool.

Speaker 2 Okay. 69.
99. 6.
18. I'm going to go 12 today.

Speaker 2 58. Give me 12.

Speaker 2 Oh!

Speaker 2 66! I thought that was 99.

Speaker 2 Are you sure it's not? Oh man, it looks like 69. Yeah.
That's 6'6. That's the first timer, though.
All right. 66.
Score games. Oh, shit.
I thought that was 99. Nah.
Those are devil numbers. 6'6.

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