
NFL Draft With Daniel Jeremiah, Super League With Troopz And Jake Paul's Fyre Fest Fight
The Super League has the soccer world going crazy and we're here to do a little bit of trolling (3:55 - 16:17). Jake Paul vs Ben Askren was a debacle but also weirdly entertaining (16:17 - 25:50). Respecting Steph Curry more (25:50 - 31:05). Who's back of the week including Chrissy Teigen on twitter (31:05 - 47:25). Daniel Jeremiah joins the show to break down the upcoming NFL Draft, guys rising and falling, quarterbacks ranked and more (47:25 - 86:48). Troopz joins the show to break down why the Super League is such a terrible thing for soccer and how much this has fucked fans up (86:48 - 115:36). We finish with an attempt to call Marlins Man.
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We're live? Yeah, we're live. We're live.
Breathe into the mic, Billy. Billy showed up hammered.
I'm not hammered. I'm not.
Breathe. Just breathe in.
Breathe while you eat. Don't eat into the mic.
Just breathe. What would a breathalyzer register on you right now, Billy? This is a cold opening, by the way.
Dude, I'm not drunk. Stop.
No, just answer the Okay, I know. Yeah, yeah.
No, this is a cold opening. We have a great show for everyone.
Daniel Jeremiah. We got troops.
We got Super League. We're gonna talk maybe some baseball, some NBA, some great Monday stuff, but Billy...
What are you doing right now, Billy? He got his burrito. You're not gonna get to talk for most of the show because you are drunk, but just show everyone how you breathe while you eat.
Do it. Do it.
Do it. Do it right now.
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Today is Monday, April 19th, and it is Super League time. Tired, super team debates, wired, super league debates.
Hey, PFT, did you hear about this one? Classic that they made a Super League after LeBron started to get into ownership in Liverpool. That's pretty good.
I do like the fact, though, that Americans basically ruined European soccer.
Considering we don't really talk soccer on this show.
Oh, yeah.
The Super League was started.
No, no, no.
There's a brand new league.
Usually talking soccer is like,
okay, let's talk soccer.
Hold on.
Everyone out there knows about the Super League.
Hank, it's the biggest news in the entire world right now.
The Europeans started a brand new league
that's exactly like the UEFA Champions League,
except better and superer.
What more do you need than it's called the Super League? You should be in on the name alone. Who's making it? Who are the teams in it? Here's how it is.
All right. I'll give you the quick.
So, all right. Let's also just clear something up.
We're going to have some fun with this. Hank's very mad about this.
We're going to have. No, I'm just genuinely confused.
I'm genuinely confused. All right.
So we're going to have some fun with the Super League. Now, all right, let's put on our real hats for a second.
The Super League is a terrible idea. Here's exactly what's going to happen.
The richest teams in, as of right now, I think it's Italy, Spain, and England. So France, PSG has not joined, and neither has the best teams in Germany.
So right now it is 12 different teams. the richest teams in the world, are going to create a league where they're basically doing away with the Champions League.
The Champions League is a great tournament where it's qualifiers for England as the top four go. It's different for each country, but it's a big tournament in all of Europe for the best team.
Now these teams are basically like, why would we share money with everyone when we can make a super league and we get to keep all the money and it's all the rich teams and it will therefore basically destroy every club soccer team below them in all of these countries. It's terrible for the game of soccer.
It's going to ruin the game of soccer. But in terms of a troll factor, it was made for this show specifically to talk about how American innovation has finally come to soccer and now we have a Super League.
Hell yeah. Listen, if you wanted to be against the formation of a Super League, then you should have called your league the Super League to begin with.
Totally agree. You left yourself wide open to getting cut by that.
The Super Bowl is called the Super Bowl. There's no game that can be adopted by the NFL that could come in except the Pro Bowl, which is amazing.
Pro Bowl. But that's business.
It's business. Super Bowl is everything.
It's everything. So you should have named your league the Super League to prevent that ahead of time.
Now, I think it's very funny that you can trace this back to Americans ruining European soccer because it's like the Glazers that really wanted to push on this. And I think John Henry, right? Yeah, probably.
So, yes, this is a great way for Americans to just remind everybody that if you give us enough money and put us in any global situation, we will fuck up your personal lives. Yeah, we'll make it America, which is just just super i do think that the governments of these countries might just be doing it to create more confusion around the tax laws so that they can create more revenue revenue because you know that every single like super millionaire soccer player in the super league playing all these games in different countries they're not going to be paying the right taxes and there's nothing more than governments love in Europe than just like boning the highest profile superstars with like $20 million tax bills.
Hank, question. You mentioned the Champions League.
You didn't say anything about the Premier League. Where do they factor in this? Yes, so the Premier League is what would get ruined.
Why? And the same thing in Spain and Italy, Serie A and La Liga. So essentially, soccer is actually kind of fucking sweet how it's set up right now, where the little guys can quote-unquote compete.
You get a Leicester City situation, right? But you have a league where it's 20 teams and then there's relegation. Essentially, this is all happening because the
money from the Champions League isn't
locked in. You have to qualify every year.
So if
you are, for instance, Arsenal,
who will have troops on the show,
they are not going to qualify. Well, unless
they... Now this is getting confusing because they could still
win the Europa League. But they're
in the middle of the table this year, right?
So they might not qualify for the Champions
League. They might not qualify to get
all that extra money being in the Champions
League. So they're essentially saying, let's cut out
I'm going to go of the biggest brands, They generate the most money. So it doesn't matter how good the teams are.
For instance, West Ham is better than Arsenal this year. But still, if you're at the top of the EPL table, you're not going to get into the Super League because those spots are already set in stone amongst the highest-profile teams teams which will then generate more money and then get better and better and better as in theory the rest of the team will get worse and worse and worse uh generally speaking i'm in favor of any european conglomeration that doesn't involve the germans i feel like it's very funny that they left the bundesliga they're gonna be involved like so the the theory is there's teams that are going to the the best teams in germany and all and france all right so there's a couple things actually floating around one is that this is all just a bargaining chip to change how teams get into the champions league so that those rich teams can lock in the profit and it also is a short-sighted thing where hey they lost money during coronavirus and the pandemic so let's just make all this money back i think i read that it was like 400 million dollars instantly to every team yeah for being in the super league yep that's how fucking super it is super like that again not trying to tell people what to think but 400 million dollars just for being in the super league that's fucking super uh i i don't think it will happen i don't think it's gonna happen but it does suck if it it does happen I thought it was happening so now there's basically, this is how fuck soccer is UEFA and FIFA can counteract with this I was reading something that FIFA could essentially say if you play in the Super League you can't play in the World Cup so guys who want to play for their country in the World Cup wouldn't play in the Super League.
I don't see that actually happening. I think it's going to be an all-time politicking that we don't fully understand that we can just sit on the sideline and troll about.
That's just FIFA trying to keep Christian Pusilic off the national team and prevent America from winning a fucking World Cup. Is Christian Pusilic the face of the Super League? Well, Chelsea's one of the teams.
Many people are asking. But I think that, so Hank, to kind of equalize it to American football, it would be like, this isn't a perfect correlation, but if the Dallas Cowboys got into the playoffs every year, just because they're the Dallas Cowboys and they're the biggest brand in the NFL, regardless of how good they are.
That's kind of what this is like. I think the best correlation would be baseball because there's no real salary cap.
So it would basically be saying the top six teams in baseball, let's just say the Dodgers, the Yankees, the Mets, the Cubs, in terms of just salary, right? I'm not talking about how good they are. The Red Sox and, I don't know, whoever else is like top in the league and salary basically say we're starting our own league and they're houston and they're just completely separate from everyone else and they start their own league where they all make a shitload of money and they get their product on on tv all the time and then everyone else sucks what they don't realize is like if you made that league someone's got to be the bottom of the league so that's the funniest part about the super league is like arsenal is going to join and arsenal is going to be the worst team in the league yeah so they're going to get their shit kicked out of them but they'll be in the super league so like with tottenham they let tottenham in despite the fact that tottenham hasn't won an epl title since like 1961 so it's like it would be like if they made a super league of football and they're like, we're going to include the Jets because they've got a big market.
Yeah, or the Cowboys who haven't won in forever, but they have the most money. Either way, we probably got a lot of this wrong.
Oh, most of it. I didn't want to correct you in time, but you mispronounced it.
It's Leechester City. Leechester City, sorry.
So Leechester City. So Super League, we'll talk to troops about it who will give us a little more insight into how terrible of an idea it is.
Again, when will we know whether or not this is happening? I think it's 2023 was the proposed start. A lot can happen in two years.
Yeah, a lot can happen. Here's the thing, though.
The way the thing was announced and it was like games will resume when we can, I thought it was going to be like a month. The Super League's a very terrible idea in terms of the sport of soccer and all these other teams are going to get fucked with it.
But again, it is a goldmine for trolls like us because it's essentially just Americans saying we know how to sports better, and taking a sport that's been around forever, and all the traditions, and all the funny, quirky things with the different levels in England soccer, and being like, no, fuck all that. Let's just make it like the NFL, and we'll all get to keep our TV money, and it will be sick, because it's the Super League.
So in that respect, we're in on the Super League.
It's also just a very cool name.
Hey, what Super League team should we choose to be our team?
I'm saying you can have now an EPL team and a Super League team.
And wrong.
I'm just a fan of the league, right, because we're all going to win.
We're Rob Lowe's.
There is no teams.
You just root for the Super League.
The relegated team that you own will now be back in the Premier League because they kicked out so many of the good teams.
Yeah, I want to say it right now.
I don't because there's a section of Swansea fans that think I actually have any say whatsoever. it was your idea yeah the entire super league was your idea as as owner of swansea i think i think so here's the thing where it gets like a little bit serious because obviously you're right it's a very it's a bad idea bad and it's going to fuck over all of european soccer it's going to make this sport completely different um but it'd be very funny if they did change the rules to make it more like American football.
If goals were worth more points, if you could have one guy who was in charge, like he could actually pick up the ball who wasn't the goalkeeper. You get two points if you win an away game.
Two points if you win an away game? Yeah. I'm just hoping that they make VAR more part of the game in the Super League.
Because as soccer fans, that's what we like the most. Oh, I can't wait for the takes of like, this is global.
This is globalism. I've reviewed the documents.
George Soros is busting in fans to the game. It's going to be fucking sick, dude.
Super League. You know what they should do? They should have one floating spot in the Super League that's reserved for the FIFA Player of the Year.
So, like, if Messi wasn't on one of these teams, then his team would automatically get in every year. Yes.
It's just so funny to be like, this is a really stupid idea. No one should be in on the Super League.
It's going to ruin soccer. But then having the other side of my brain be like, but it's the Super League.
Also, games should be played at like 7 p.m. American time.
And more commercials. More commercials.
Way more commercials. Commercial breaks during the breaks in the action.
Every 15 minutes a commercial break. You should have a dancing robot that wears soccer equipment that just appears on the field out of nowhere.
Imagine if they did a commercial after the kickoff. Yeah.
Paused it. Yeah.
It's like the little pass. Pause commercial.
I'm in for it. Super League is a blank canvas.
We Americans can make it whatever we want. It's our league now.
It is our sport. As everyone knows.
It's truly the American sport. Alright.
What else we got going on in sports i had there was the there was a big fight oh yeah on saturday night damn was it bad what what a great two hours of television that was though well between the concert yes because i tuned in only tune in for two hours i tuned in for two hours so i didn't i actually didn't get to see oscar de la hoya being the in real life i love cocaine bear but dude he was uh his face i don't a lot of people were saying like os Oscar De La Hoya looks like he's had a lot of plastic surgery done I think his face is just so swollen from the drugs that it has made his skin tighter right his face looked like the mom like Stifler's mom in American Pie so essentially what happened was it was a broadcast that everyone you know when um someone leaves ESPN and they're like hey now I can really take off the guardrails here like we can say whatever we want they were able to swear on this broadcast and also like talk about weed and all this stuff and then they just did it so much that it was horrendous to listen to they were talking about snoop snoop dog smoked a blunt crazy i know uh and they couldn't stop talking about it for like three hours straight oscar de la hoya got on there said fucking a million times kept on saying baby and uh it was just weird and terrible and then i disagree that like it took forever to get to i disagree that it was terrible with snoop dog because snoop dog i could listen to him recite anything he could read the phone book and it would sound amazing. Snoop Dogg is probably the coolest person in America.
Just everything that comes out of his mouth happens to rhyme with the last thing that he said.
And then he's drinking Hennessy or whatever is private liquor.
It wasn't Snoop Dogg.
I almost felt like the rest of the panel was beneath Snoop Dogg.
Correct.
You could put Snoop Dogg on the Red Zone channel and I would watch it.
You could put Snoop Dogg doing anything and I would watch it. The rest of of the guys they had a major case of i'm sitting next to snoop dog i hope snoop dog thinks that i'm cool no it wasn't snoop dog it was after snoop dog was around and smoking ray flores kept on being like you guys still high from that snoop dog blunt and kept on mentioning it and like it was uncomfortable it was very clear that some people on the announcing staff were just there to catch a paycheck and we're halfway through we're like what is my like mario lopez i think it yeah halfway through is like i why did i do this like i'm ac slater mario lopez is the king of guys that just shows up doing stuff on tv yeah i've seen mario lopez he does like america's funniest videos i've seen him on uh like a bunchotainment commercials.
I saw him one time. I checked into a hotel, and you turn on the TV, and he was like, Hi, I'm Mario Lopez here for Marriott.
Let me tell you about the features of your room. The entire night was just a series of people collecting checks.
Yes. You just got to see rich people get a little bit richer in real time over the course of the night.
Including Ben Askren, who people say was taking a dive. And we have, thank God, we have an expert here on our show who may or may not be drunk.
But Billy, did you think that Ben Askren took a dive? Honestly, when I saw him and he was so fat, he had the love handles for the weigh-in. I was like, that guy's not in fighting shape.
Yep. Like, he's not there to fight.
But he got a lot of money. He got a lot of money.
He got less money than fucking Jose did. And, yeah, wow.
And Jake Paul, the Paul brothers can't be stopped. Like, this is, they got a bunch of people to, it was essentially fire fest of a boxing match, right? Like, we all tuned in and we saw 30 seconds and then a million uh concerts that no one really wanted to see and the fight didn't happen to one a member I'm a believer now in the that was a good again you you watched for like the last hour and a half the first four five hours was just mindless and not like it was terrible I could tell you big cat like that's kind of on you for for choosing to watch the six undercards of a Jake Paul fight.
Well, no, I had it on, and it was like, I didn't even have it on the sound for a while. It just kept on going.
It was like, there are no fights. Oh, there's a fight for two seconds.
Oh, then there's just like an hour and a half of no fights. I had no interest until the very end, so I wasn't rushing to my TV to see the fights that were going on at 9 p.m.
But Billy, in your estimation, did he or did he not take a dive? I mean, you get to the point. I think he thought the whole thing was a sham the second he walked into the ring, like even before when he was training.
So Ben Askren just went in there and was like, this is a joke. I'm going to treat it like a joke and just took his paycheck.
He got hit pretty hard, though. But I've seen Ben Askren get his face pounded in on the mat in the UFC.
Right. He just played it all.
He still got hit really hard, though. Like, you can watch that punch, and the punch was a solid.
Many people were saying it was a harder shot than Jose took. Way harder.
That, honestly. Either way, the Paul brothers are going to just, for some reason, they're just going to end up becoming like, so I'm not a Paul brothers fan, but I respect the fact that they have become somehow real boxers.
And they're just going to... No.
They're doing pay-per-views for fucking insane money. Dude, he's 5'7".
What? Jake Paul's 5'7"? If I got into a ring with him, I'd literally kill him. I think he would actually murder you.
So you're saying you're a real boxer. No.
I'm far from a real boxer. But, dude, the guys I train with, I get in the gym, and they say that they would beat the shit out of Jake Paul.
I think he's a real... No, no.
These are 17-year-old gold-glove boxers, and they're like, this guy's a joke. You's a joke.
You can do it. Yeah, but none of them want to actually fight.
That's the difference. Billy, hold on.
I'm not saying he's a real boxer in the fact that he's going to be challenging for the heavy or whatever middleweight title of the world. I'm saying that they have found a way to get paid real significant dollars as professional boxers.
Whether you want to say that that's bullshit or not, I don't care.
They have literally invented an audience for them boxing random people,
and you at least have to tip your hat to it.
They've recreated WWE.
In a way.
They made their own Super League.
It's what they did.
They did Super League Wrestling.
They figured out a way to monetize beating the shit out of people that can't beat them up. And so, I mean, credit to them for being able to do it.
Right. He's not a bad boxer.
You can't watch him fight and be like, that guy sucks. He's a good boxer.
And I really do hope that he fights you. I think that there's a good chance because I was reviewing your slideshow presentation really last night.
And I think you make a lot of outstanding points about how you would get under his skin really badly. I think that you could probably goad him into a fight but I think in the general public size, fighting you might be a step back for him right now.
Well the thing is like I'm just bad enough of a boxer that he'd take the fight because he's like oh this guy looks, but he's not that good of a boxer. So I might beat him.
He's as big as you are. What about the fact that he fought an NBA player? He fought an MMA champion.
All of them are under five sticks. But you have no clout.
I feel like we keep getting back to that point. It's just like no one wants to mention that part.
I have no clout, but I would love to fucking... Do you see his mentions? It's a million people saying, fight me next.
True. And where were you last night in his mentions? He should have been there.
No, I'm just saying. No, I know, I know.
People who want it, they're there. You got to make the app, the Fight Paul app.
Yeah. It just left me wanting more fighting with funny commentary and just better action.
Interesting. With maybe a way to bet on it on PlayBarStool.com.
If that was... What do you mean? Oh, yeah.
We have Rough and Rowdy Friday night. Oh, my gosh.
There won't be a million concerts. It will just be wall-to-wall action.
20 fights. Knockouts.
Do you see Vito Torpedoes fighting? Mm-hmm. Who's maybe the greatest...
I don't even know how to describe him. He would beat the fuck out of Jake Paul.
He's like 400 pounds. He's like weaponized Frank the Tank.
Yeah, he just takes punches. He eats punches for a living.
So, rough and rowdy, Friday night, buy rnr.com, and do it on the Play Barstool app. Billy, final question.
Was Jake Paul in war mode? No. He had a fucking robot.
That was sick. The robot was so sick.
That's the other thing. As much as you want, I know the inclination.
Ready for this, Jake? The inclination is to hate on these guys, but then they bring out robots and stuff and it's sweet as fuck. How do you like that, Jake? I love it.
There we go. They automated their hype, man.
Yeah. It was amazing.
Bullshit. Do you hate? You don't like the robot? Eh.
Jake, would you take a job calling a Paul fight? That'd be fun, yeah. Snoop Dogg was smoking a lot of wheat.
Yeah, what if Snoop Dogg had? It's another sport for the resume. Okay, but Snoop Dogg was smoking a lot of wheat.
Okay.
Amongst everyone.
It kind of reminded me of a Triple S broadcast.
Just a lot.
You can say whatever you want.
It was chaos. But what if Snoop Dogg...
Five-man booth was interesting.
What if Snoop Dogg was next to you and he hands you a joint and he's like, here you
go, cousin.
Are you going to smoke it?
No.
Cousin?
I already...
What?
I already broke a big no-no
taking a sip of Pink Whitney
with Biz a few weeks ago.
Here you go, cousin.
No, because Snoop Dogg does the thing where he'll just drop
a relative's title out of nowhere.
And he just brings it up and it's always
he'll be like, what's up, stepbrother?
No, I know.
Dude, he will say cousin all day.
Yeah. Pop Snoop Dogg over here.
I would not take the hit, but I would take the broadcast. Okay.
There we go. All right.
What else we got? Oh, the other thing I wanted to mention from this weekend. I think that we're in the specific zone now where we don't respect Steph Curry enough.
Yeah. I think we're back on.
You know, the Warriors were so hated. He gets injured.
I think we're now in Steph Curry is like under. He lost, though.
Yeah, yeah. No, but he's been on an insane tear.
I'm not even talking about on Saturday night. I'm talking about like his last.
I think what does he hit? Was it like 45 threes in the last week or something? Maybe it's not that many. It's an insane amount.
When I saw the stats of how he became the Warriors all-time leading scorer, but then they had to compare him next to Wilt Chamberlain. It was like Wilt did it in literally half the games that Steph Curry did.
I do think that we're reaching the point where we're ready to build Steph Curry back up after hating him for a while for being on a super team through no fault of his own, really. Correct.
Sorry that he was so good that people wanted to join the Warriors. But now that they've had a couple years down, now it's like, oh, Steph Curry redemption tour, despite the fact that he's never really been bad at basketball.
No, right. He hasn't had down years.
When he plays, he's always been a top three player in the entire league. And we're at the zone where it's like, hey, maybe we should just remember the fact that we're watching literally the greatest shooter of all time play basketball.
So we should just enjoy that and be like, holy shit, Steph Curry is awesome all the time. So he's in that camp now.
44 threes in five games. 44 threes in five games.
I also saw the stat that Steph Curry could go 0 for 500 in his next 500 three-point attempts and then retire and he would still be ahead of ray allen he should do that and then he could go over 600 in his next 600 and he would still be in retire and he'd still be ahead of reggie miller that's insane that is nuts it's fucking insane he is that much better of a shooter than everyone else in the history of basketball it's like it's actually mind-boggling that we don't respect him enough so i'm gonna write that down jake we got to respect steph curry more often and just a date or just no i think it's more of a in general yeah it's like god it's just everywhere okay you know we're reminded of his presence right frequently i yeah but i'm still gonna blame for ruining basketball at the collegiate level sure the a's fine. So he's a net negative on the game.
You can do whatever you want. But he's still great.
Right. I'm just going to start appreciating him more in general as a ball is life guy.
Big time shout out to Zion for just knowing exactly what he was doing when he was taking that press conference today. And somebody asked him how he felt about playing in New York.
And he put the smirk on his face immediately. And he was like, I know exactly what I'm about to do.
He goes, thank you for asking me that question. Then went on for about a minute and a half talking about how New York City is his favorite place in the world to play basketball.
And then threw it at the end, besides New Orleans, obviously, and then went back to sucking the Mecca's dick and being like, I love Madison Square Garden. It is the best place in the world.
I think, I mean, he's got to become a Knick now, right? He just wants to play with R.J. Barrett, too, his friend.
So there's the, you know, and we get the Knicks. The Knicks.
It's also more the Pelicans front office is like a disaster. I think he's just trying to, you know, stir the pot.
Yeah. The Knicks Twitter, too, I'm enjoying it right now, but that's a classic case of if the Knicks ever get really good, people will hate the Knicks so goddamn much because they're kind of the darling right now because it's been so long.
But you forget how many people you follow and people in media are Knicks fans until the Knicks start getting good again, and you're like, oh, shit. Right, they're harmless right now, so when they do something average, you're like, that's cute, and you're getting a little pat on the head.
But yeah, if the Knicks ever become a juggernaut, no, I'm out. I'm out of the Knicks at that point.
And Tibbs is an insane coach. He's just fucking awesome.
Their roster is not that good, and he's that good of a coach. You know what the Knicks should do preemptively? If they do plan on getting really, really good to kind of get ahead of all the people that will be hating them,
they should just sign Boban.
Because you can't hate a team that has Boban on it.
True.
That's a fact.
Or Lou Dort.
Who also, Lou Dort.
You could be booing the Knicks.
They could be going for their fifth championship.
If you put Boban in the game and he starts dunking without jumping,
everyone's going to love that.
Yes.
I love Lou Dort so much.
He had such a Lou Dort night tonight where he went. He 21 points in the first quarter 5 for 5 from 3 and then finished the half with 22 points.
That's just, that's what he does. It's Dort ball.
All of a sudden you'll be like, Lou Dort is on 80 point watch and you'll tune in and he'll have like 23 points 11 minutes into the game and then he'll
end up with 32 lube up yeah it's fun dude the torture chamber get in or get out yeah he's got he's got 27 points right now and there's a minute and a half left in the fourth he had 21 in the first quarter he's that's lou dort is just he did when he gets fire there's nothing more it's also Or just fun to say Dort.
Yeah, of course.
The Dortcher Chamber, the Dortula.
The Dortula. The Dortula? Yeah, the Dortula.
He's taking it over. Oh, there's a Dorthog meme where he looks like a warthog, the vehicle.
It's fucking sick. Dort minor? Yeah.
Dude, there's so many Dorts. I love Lou Dort.
And just, yeah, the LU is also the best.
Dort license plates, yeah.
Yes, exactly.
All right, let's get to who's back.
And then we have Daniel Jeremiah coming up.
Great draft talk with him.
And kind of speed you up on the draft, which is coming up in a week and a half.
And then we have troops on.
Very emotional with troops. After talking to troops, I think we are probably going to disavow the Super League as trolls.
We're going to have to change our tune. We actually taped troops in the middle of before the start of the show and right now.
We're out on the Super League. I like the name.
So confused. Time travel.
I like the name Super League. I'm not going back on that.
Yeah, yeah. We're in on the name.
We stand by the fact that it is a good name for the league. Yeah, all right.
We'll just listen to Troops. It was awesome.
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Okay, Henry. My who's back of the week, our queen, the mayor of Twitter, Chrissy Teigen.
Yes. Returned after like a six-day, I think, retirement.
So 20 23 days i only march 24th this was this was her one of the most emotional goodbyes i've ever seen for over 10 years you guys have been my world i honestly owe you so much to this world we have created here i truly consider so many of you my actual friends but it's time for me to say goodbye this no longer serves me as positively as it serves me negatively and i think that's the right time time to cause something. Yeah.
And then on April 16th, so less than a month later, she said, turns out it feels, all caps, terrible to silence yourself and also no longer enjoy belly chuckles randomly throughout the day and also lose like 2,000 friends at once. LOL.
So she's back. Translation, I am a narcissist and I'm addicted to this hellhole of a website because I like other people to like me, which is okay, but it's not okay because you did a whole grandstand of your retirement, which was utterly ridiculous, and that part is just...
We should be able to laugh at that. I got caught up in Chrissy Teigen mentions because I was tweeting about it when she came back, and I was like, I don't know, like the third or fourth tweet when you hit the trending, and the Chrissy Teigen stans.
The Teigenites. The Teigenites.
I don't know what you call them. I had one here.
I'll do a quick reading of it. Olivia said, yes, it's people like you who criticize people like Chrissy who are clearly jealous of her.
If your life was full of love and happiness, you'd never think ugly thoughts. That ugliness lives inside you until you decide to let it go.
Chrissy will be fine. I hope you will be too.
I'm glad that there are people out there that are defending Chrissy on this one. It's funny how it did last for 23 days and we knew that she was coming back.
She's addicted to this life. What Chrissy should have done is she should have started a burner account.
She should have just gone with at not Chrissy Teigen and then infiltrated all the trolls that always go at her and accuse her being a pedophile and it actually would have been very funny if Chrissy Teigen had become like so deep into the world of a burner account getting mad at Chrissy Teigen that she actually starts to hate online Chrissy Teigen from her burner account and then she bought into the fact that when she was watching Toddlers and Tiaras, she was engaged in sex traffic. That would have been the ultimate internet story.
She also could have just stopped using Twitter for a weekend. Just detoxed from Twitter? Just instead of saying a big announcement, hey, look at me, I'm off this website, I'm, I'm, if you, here's just a simple rule in life, if you announce that that you are retiring from Twitter you're probably a fucking asshole who will be back on Twitter in due time so my Twitter was broken this weekend and I was kind of hoping it never came back I couldn't see anything on Saturday or Friday it is kind of well when that happens and you're like wait what if it just stayed like this would my life be better? The answer is probably yes.
Oh yeah Twitter was broken.
Chrissy it's so like refreshing though that
someone who's probably
close to a billionaire or half a million
dollars. No chance.
Someone who's super rich
a supermodel. Think about the rice.
She's got a few greens.
Billion is a lot. Still misses
logging on to maybe
the world's worst website and getting roasted
every day. Superstars are not that different from you and I.
So welcome back, Chrissy. She's like the KD of celebrities.
Although, I guess not without the skill. How is she like KD? She's addicted to Twitter and social media.
She's a loser, just like... Remember I said this last week, how everyone online is a loser, whether you're on Facebook, Reddit, Twitter, Instagram.
Everyone has their their subsection everyone looks at the other subsection jeremy renner's website could you imagine tweeting all day as you angrily yell at someone on reddit or facebook we're all losers so once you admit that and accept it you can just be a loser and live your life that was chrissy's biggest thing she she thought she could go legit she thought she could be not a loser anymore and be like, oh, I'm going to leave you fucking cretins over on Twitter and I'm going to go live my wonderful life. Uh-uh.
We pulled you back in. You can't fucking leave.
We got you. We got our claws in you.
You're a fucking loser like us. It is just amazing, though, that at the end of the day, you could have all the money in the world.
You could have true love like her and john legend have and they'll never ever break up ever in the perfect couple their goals their goals uh but at the end of the day you still want to get like a blue notification on your phone reminding you that like a celebrity is retweeted yeah you want the likes and the and and people to to reply with the lols and people like team chrissy and all this is great there's also the diet version of doing what Chrissy did, which is making a big announcement that you have deleted the app from your phone. Right.
That way you don't have to actually delete your account. You can still have it on your desktop or on your iPad or on anything else.
But if you just make a big grandstanding statement about I have deleted the Twitter app from my phone, you get to have that moment where you're like, look at me. I'm doing something powerful.
But you still get to stay logged on and online. Right.
Exactly. So it's good to have the mayor of Twitter back.
Welcome back, Rusty. My who's back of the week is cicadas.
Cicadas are back big time. And this is the part of the podcast where Billy pretends like that was going to be his back.
So the cicadas are back.
The 17-year cicadas, if you
don't remember the last time the cicadas were around,
they're about to turn the entire fucking
world on its head for about two months.
Basically, there are going to be
millions and millions of slow-moving
loud insects that just
ruin everything in every East Coast
city and in the Midwest. I don't know exactly
where the location, how far west they go, but I do know that you're going to get a lot of cicada content coming up. You're going to get people that start doing, there'll be TikTokers that are like, here's how you cook cicadas because apparently cicadas are delicious if you want to eat a flying vuva zelo with wings, which is what they actually sound like.
So they're going to ruin the outdoors. They're going to ruin, there's probably going to be a cicada delay in a baseball game at some point this season.
But I'm very excited for the influx of cicada content to hit the internet. For the first time, really, since we've had this internet, we're going to get just a deluge of blogs about cicadas.
I just love that there's different broods. BroodX is coming, but I saw Brood8 is still three years away.
2004 is the last time we had a brood this big.
It's going to be insane.
Damn.
It's going to pop off.
Keep an eye on your pets out there, too, because they're delicious.
Dogs love eating them because they're slow, and they fly really close to the ground.
And they all die.
And so your dog's going to try to eat a lot of them.
They'll block your dog up real bad.
Your dog won't be able to shit if it eats too much cicadas.
Those cicadas are gross. They're so gross.
Keep an eye on that. Don't let Whitey be going to Munchtown on these cicadas.
I know. Yeah.
That's good. Cicadas are the worst.
It really is a plague. I'm kind of excited.
Well, yeah. We know you are.
Because, like, think about it. More animals to fuck.
No, no. It's just like sometimes new shit happens.
It's fun. Yeah.
You are young enough that you don't even remember cicadas. I was five last time.
Yeah. You're going to be sick of the cicadas in about two weeks.
Yes. I will, but it'll be fun when it first shows up.
Like a snow day. Yeah, like a snow day.
All right. My Who's Back of the Week is Billy is back, and the Yankees are back.
The Yankees suck. Billy, you were at the stadium on Saturday.
How'd it go? I had to leave early. Why was that? Were you asked to leave early, Billy? Yes.
Okay. I was with a large group of people.
So basically, if you go to an MLB stadium... We've never actually been to a game with friends, so explain it to us.
Right, right. No, but if you go to an MLB Stadium during COVID, they tape off some of the seats, right, because of social distancing.
So some of my friends basically uncut the tape because we all arrived as a group, and we're sitting in the wrong seats, and then they kicked us all out. Okay, so you decided to break safety protocols.
Yeah, but they made us all give tests and everyone was basically vaccinated. Everyone was basically vaccinated.
I think that's a scientific phrase for it. Everyone was basically vaccinated.
To get into the game, you need a negative test or a vaccination card. Or you had to fake a vaccine
or fake a Photoshop negative test.
If you're just basically vaccinated.
We need a couple of vaccine groups.
Here's what's covered in basically vaccinated.
All my homies are vaxxed.
Here's what's covered in basically vaccinated.
It's people who are vaccinated,
people who have had one of two shots,
people who are thinking about getting vaccinations.
People who have made their vaccination appointment
and haven't gotten it yet. Think people who...
Antibodies. Yeah, antibodies.
People who are not going to get a vaccination but are not anti-vaxxing. So they're not spreading anti-vaxx stuff.
That's basically vaccinated as well. People who are healthy, but they swear they're not going to go visit elderly relatives anytime soon.
Yep, yep. People who...
healthy, unvaccinated, but they're like, all I'm going to do is go to the bar and maybe a couple restaurants. But that's it.
That's basically vaccinated. If you go with a group of people and you're like, listen, we've all been hanging out just us together.
We're a bubble. It's our pod.
This is our bubble. We're going to the game in unison.
You're safe, I swear. Basically vaccinated.
Or if your dad's a lawyer. Yeah, that's it.
You're basically vaccinated. No, the real problem is that you're definitely basically vaccinated.
Half my buddies were Red Sox fans and they were all chirping Brett Gardner. Yeah, basically vaccinated.
They're all chirping Brett Gardner and saying heinous shit. And that's probably what God's kicked out.
I'm a Yankees fan, but they're saying heinous shit to Brett Parker.
Wow, you let that happen at the Bronx Zoo, dude?
Dude, Brett, if you're listening, I'm sorry about my buddy.
You brought Red Sox fans to the Mecca?
By the way, Yankee fans are back for another reason,
for throwing balls onto the field on Friday night, which was...
I know people are like, this is horrible, but it's also very funny.
The idea that many Yankee fans brought baseballs to the game.
Like,
Thank you. I know people are like, this is horrible, but it's also very funny.
The idea that many Yankee fans brought baseballs to the game. What the fuck were they thinking? Totally wasn't my friend.
What message board was this planned on? Because there was some level of coordination that went into it. Is there a parlor for Yankees fans where they think that they're communicating underground? They're really organizing basically a massive, disruptive event?, is it simply that Yankee fans, they love the game so much, it's like, all right, we're ready to go to the game? Okay, you got your wallet, your phone, your keys, your tickets, your vaccination, and your baseball in case the ump asks for an extra.
The baseball and your mitt. Yeah.
I like that. It was just a very funny idea.
Like, I know people were very upset, but I found it very funny that that many people
had a baseball just randomly.
And it's a great way to delay a game.
Oh, for sure.
What's it like rooting for the last place team in the entire American League?
That's got to be tough.
You need to.
This is a question for Jake and Billy.
Yeah, you need to manufacture some fun at these games.
It's early.
Do you want Aaron Boone fired? No. It's early.
They'll put 9% of the season. Boone out? Boone out.
That's fine. Long way to go.
All right, Billy, who's your back? I saw Aaron Judge hit a home run and Stanton hit a grand slam a couple days ago, and that's all I need to see. Bombs.
Who's back of the week? Bombs.
Wait, okay.
Jake, who's your who's back?
Do you think that maybe the Yankees have sucked
ever since Aaron Judge fixed his teeth?
It's honestly since the Home Run Derby.
Yeah.
Four years ago.
The entire Yankees.
27.
But think about it.
He hasn't been hitting bombs.
I had a roommate in college who was a sleeper, and every year when there was daylight savings, he would just use that as an excuse for like two months. He'd be like, it still hit me pretty hard.
Billy's like, yeah, Aaron Judge. But it's the entire team, too.
All the Yankees having to watch Aaron Judge hit the ball that far, they're like, fuck, I'll never be that good. So they all got bad too.
The year is 2035 and Billy's still blaming Aaron Judge's 2017 home run derby performance for the Yankees' woes. By the way, what do you guys think about this? For the vaccination stuff, what if we all got our second dose of the vax on the same day, like a Wednesday, and then we just did a show on Thursday where we're all just like deathly sick.
You mean like getting me this Thursday? Oh, like getting coronavirus like I had? Yeah. Yeah.
I'm not trying to say that people stole Valor, but Billy, do you feel a little bit when people are like, oh, the second shot made me feel so bad? Yeah, like having it? Dude, I trained through the fight. No, I have a positive test.
Yeah, he did. Yeah, I trained through the fight.
It's crazy. You got corona twice.
I think by getting punched in the face while having corona. Imagine if Jose was actually not taking a dive, and that could have been a whole different situation.
Honestly, I feel bad for Jake Paul because he got robbed of the opportunity to compete. That's all I got to say.
All right, Jake, who's back of the week? This is wild with the Boeheims are back Yeah And they are reunited So wild
It was a wildest post
I saw Buddy Boeheim
Put out a tweet
It's him
He's first of all
Get ready for that picture
He's like three
And he's
He's wearing Syracuse gear
What?
Yeah
So he knew all along?
And then he ends up
Playing for the team
When he gets older
And then his brother
Is now on Syracuse too
Also?
And his brother was wearing
Syracuse gear too
And get this
Their dad's the coach
No
That's wild
No
No
That's wild
It is wild
Thank you. His brother is now on Syracuse, too.
And his brother was wearing Syracuse gear, too. And get this.
Their dad's the coach. No.
That's wild. No.
No. That's wild.
It is wild. So, yeah.
He transferred from Cornell to Syracuse. And it's going to be a wild year.
It's wild. That's fucking wild.
Wait until November. But, yeah.
Yeah. Wild.
Oh, man. How far is Ithaca from Syracuse? Under an hour, I think.
Not too bad. Yeah.
There you go. No.
All I know is Ithaca is gorgeous. That's what they say.
Yep. Because it's gorgeous.
I heard it sucks. One hour, four minutes.
No, seriously. That place blows.
All right. And there's our travel review.
All right. Let's get to our interviews.
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Okay, here he is, Daniel Jeremiah. Okay, we now welcome on recurring guest.
It is NFL Network lead draft analyst. You can find him on Twitter at Move move the sticks and on instagram he's a co-host of the move the sticks podcast with bucky brooks it is the one and only daniel jeremiah we're going to talk some draft it's great to see you it is draft season what is that helmet is that the wake forest helmet oh no oh no it's appellation state yes yes so i've got the two right so this is like this is the one that i played in which which by the way weighs like 60 pounds like i don't know how that why they were so heavy back in the day but this little guy right here is their like patriotic helmet yes look at that that is sick they were pipe is a nice touch too did they win when they wore it this year i vaguely you know i think they lost to coastal car they lost to Coastal Carolina I vaguely remember losing a bet and being like it's because of those candy ass helmets Do you remember just like offhand because I was trying to think of this this morning what happened in 2008 when it was you guys were up 21-0 at halftime to James Madison.
Something happened after that I forget what it was. Do you remember? Oh no.
See I don't take ownership of that because I graduated in 2000, so I don't take ownership of any type of a defeat. Mayock used to get on me because his son was at Villanova and they beat App State in the playoffs one year.
And I'm like, Mike, I didn't play on the team, man. I'm not going to get offended when you're talking about you beat App State.
Like, I'm not. He got you, though.
He got you good. All right, so let's talk some draft.
Let's do big picture first. I love to ask the question, how does this draft rank overall compared to, let's say, the last five drafts? Where does it rank in terms of this is a dynamite draft, there's gems everywhere, versus, hey, this is kind of a lean one and uh teams are gonna be struggling to find value in the second and third round well i think like first round wise normally there's you know a bad year is 18 first round grades for me like on guys and then a great year would be 27 28 so that's kind of like the range this year there's like i have 22 23 first round guys.
So good. Good, not like the best we've seen.
Depth, it's just weird, man, because we've always had a premier edge rusher, like a top-10 dude. We don't have that this year, and that's such a big position in the way the game's played.
So the absence of that, to me, feels like you lessen your enthusiasm a little bit. But there's depth.
There's good corners and linemen and stuff in the third round. Can you explain that to me? Because this is part of the stuff that I love about the NFL draft experts is when they put their first-round grades on things.
You just said that in a good year, you'd have 28 first-round grades on a player. So there's never a year where there are 32 first-rounders who are deserving of being drafted you know, it's it's it's kind of convoluted.
But like the way that we would do it with the teams I was with is you would give guys great on kind of like starters, backups, role players. And so when I say like first round grades, I'm saying like guys that are just, you know, pro bowl level players, like guys that have a chance to go to a pro bowl, that type of ability.
So that's kind of the cutoff point for me when i say like first round guys i mean these guys are you know quality players are going to be quality starters but you know if i'm taking a guy in the first round ideally you'd like to think he has a chance to be one of the 10 best guys in his position yeah and so in in that same vein when you're in a war room how much do you look at okay next year is bigger or the year after is going to be better how much you look at it like uh next two or three three year window versus just hey it's this draft that's all we're focused on i think uh the free agency for sure so you can back up some of your needs with next year's free agent class so you kind of peek ahead a little bit of what could be out there you cover up some of these needs you might not address in the draft and I would say quarterbacks like you're forecasting the quarterbacks out which I don't know how you do it anymore it used to be like we kind of knew at this time okay these are the three or four top guys next year but then we had Burrow come out of nowhere Kyler Murray come out of nowhere Mac Jones this year coming out of nowhere so I don't know how you do that anymore but we used to do it we used to be able to kind of look ahead and say, okay, if we don't take a quarterback now, our quarterback's a little older, we feel pretty good about the next couple years. So along that same line, and you can tell me if I'm way off here, but it does feel like because the quarterback position is so, so important, it's always been important, but it feels like it's even more important now to get your guy that a lot of these teams, like what we see with the draft, and we're going to see it probably first three picks, teams are talking themselves into quarterbacks where every year now it's just going to be quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, three quarterbacks in the top ten, five quarterbacks in the first round.
Do you think that teams are kind of making a they're when they're doing that when they're putting so much emphasis on a quarterback when there could be just great players like uh uh panay sewell from uh oregon who by all accounts could be a hall of fame type offensive lineman but you're going to take a shot at a quarterback that might not be the guy but because of the quarterback position position, everyone's going for it. Well, I think you're okay if you have really good quarterbacks that you've elevated maybe a little bit above their level and you overdraft them a little bit because of that, you're fine.
I still think it's a smart thing to do. When you look at the economics of it, it's just so much cheaper if you can get one of these studs for the next five years.
The problem has been in the past like ponder was a you know i like a fourth round grave's a backup you know when he came out he got taken the first round yeah you had gabbert you had that year where you had kind of those guys locker none of those guys were like first round players but like an example would be if if uh um you know like justin herbert i was way too low on justin herbert but he was still like, I don like I don't know 18th 19th overall on my list so you take him with the six pick like he's a first round quarterback all day long maybe you move him up a little bit paid off tremendously that's a difference than taking a guy that's a fourth round pick and trying to dream up some scenario he's a starter right okay what about a guy like Jamar Chase the guys that chose to sit out last? Is there any noticeable downside to their decision in terms of where they're going in all the mock drafts? Wait. You got to wait.
Hold on. The way to ask that question is, does Jamar Chase really love football? That's because then everyone gets upset about that online.
You know, you guys ought to ask this question. You ought to have McCaffrey on and be like, dude, remember when people got mad at me because I missed one meaningless bowl game? Remember that? Yeah.
I'm still mad at him for that. That was a whole discussion point.
I took him off my big board. Yes.
He doesn't love the game. But seriously, is there – because in my opinion, you get a year off football.
I'm sure he's still been working out unless it's like a Mike Williams situation where he put on a ton of weight going into the draft. But with a guy like Jamar Chase, I feel like his stock shouldn't be hurt at all by that decision.
But I don't know what they're saying. Nobody cares.
I mean, he showed up and ran on the four threes, jumped 40 inches, and he's every bit the freak that we saw on tape. So everything matched up.
Most of the guys, like the opt-out guys, almost all of them came back and tested off the charts. So to me, it's almost like a good indication of what they're going to be like as pros, because there's no babysitter.
There's no college coach making sure you're in the meeting room at this time. You've had all your freedom to do whatever the heck you wanted.
You've got a little money, you know, from marketing deals and agents and all that stuff. So if you've been accountable, I think it's almost a feather in the cap for some of these guys.
The only one that I thought it hurt him a little bit, well, maybe two guys. There's Rousseau from Miami, who I still really like, but he tried to get bigger.
You know, he had played in like the 240s, 250s. So somebody got in his ear and told him we need to add weight.
So he added weight and just looked a little bit clunky and stiff through the pro day. And then Twyman is a D lineman at Pitt.
He was somebody that played in like the two nineties and he put on a bunch of weight again. Cause somebody told him he needed to get bigger and you know, he repped out two 25 a zillion times.
We didn't move very well. Yeah.
So outside of that, all those other guys, I mean, Sewell opted out, worked out great Slater from a Northwestern. I mean, all those guys tore it up at their pro days.
I have a theory at a a pro day, is there any chance at all, because you're seeing a lot of guys this year, it feels like one of the fastest draft classes that we've had in a while. At least like with the premier names, you hear about guys running in the 4-3s, 4-4s that you thought were going to be 4-5, 4-6 guys.
I think that colleges are making a specific section of their playing field have the yard markers a little bit closer together. So it's actually they're running a 38-yard dash instead of a 40-yard dash.
My question, I think that they should be doing that, actually, if they're not. Is there any chance that when a scout shows up to watch this pro day, do they actually measure out the 40 yards, or do they just sit where they're told with a stopwatch and be like, yep, checks pro day you have to measure it out so here's here's here's why penn state was on a different level penn state because you can measure out 40 yards 40 yards but not if it's on a slope then you get then so the whole penn state used to those guys used to fly and like yeah no crap they're running downhill like uh you know it's 40 yards but these guys are literally running downhill um so that was the way that you know you kind of got away with it but yeah if if you're a scout and you go to a workout and you don't measure it out like you you're kind of failing at your job but even if it's on the practice field that's like a field turf field where it's already they still measure those yep and they'll put like a piece of tape and a cone like you know half a yard past what would be the 40 yards on the field because yeah a bunch of them are not are not lying properly interesting um all right so let's do the quarterbacks i want to hear what you have you know as your rankings i want to first though tell you our intern has his rankings he played quarterback not a big deal but he did play quarterback uh was was recruited at the collegiate level,
didn't play at the collegiate level, but he was recruited there.
His quarterback rankings are Zach Wilson 1, Kellen Mond 2, Justin Fields 3, Mac Jones 4, Kyle Trask 5, Sam Ellinger 6, Trey Lance 7, Trevor Lawrence 8. yeah no I mean
I think he's got a tremendous
future in talk radio
because that's at least eight segments worth of material off of one list.
I mean, that's genius.
Yeah, his entire basis on Trevor Lawrence was that he was on such a good team
that he never had to deal with things breaking down, which if you watch Trevor Lawrence, that's just not true, but that was his takeaway. Again, I think he's created so many talking points and so much content that can go on every platform that that's what a list is all about, right? That's what we're all trying to do is to just get a talking point.
He's accomplished that. Let's put it another way.
Is Trevor Lawrence a ring chaser for going to Clemson instead of going to a program that might not have had as much talent where he wanted to be the guy? Yeah. Look, son, you want to come here and do what's always been done? Or you want to go over there and try and do something that's never been done? Yeah, exactly.
I think that's a great. How many times has the Idaho coach pitched that? Yes.
He's like, look, you've got USC and Oregon. okay? Go do what everybody else does.
Fine, just be like the sheep. Or you could walk that narrow path.
Come to the Vandals and let's hoist that trophy together. That speech has been given.
So his entire premise behind Zach Wilson going first overall because I think the only tape that he's seen on Zach Wilson was at his pro day when he was throwing. And he made that one throw that went from the left hash all the way to the right pylon.
And Billy just fell in love with him because of that one throw. Is Zach Wilson, like, does he have, I'll put it this way, does he have the best arm in this draft? I think he's the best thrower, like, for sure.
Like, just in terms of every throw. Like, if you had a game of horse with all the quarterbacks and just said i can i'm gonna make a throw you try and duplicate it he would win because he could contort his body and do so many crazy throws um that he would it was a dunk contest type thing as throws he would win so to me he's the most talented thrower he just you get trevor lawrence with a bigger frame he's to me, the durability with Zach is a little bit of a knock.
He's had a shoulders injury on his,
on his throwing arm.
So that to me is why I have him second,
but I don't think it's crazy.
There are legit,
really,
really smart coaches and personnel guys in the league that have Wilson over
Lawrence.
Like that's not,
that's not a crazy,
crazy take.
Any of them have seven spots over Lawrence?
No,
no.
And that's why they're coaching and not,
and not,
not trying to produce content because those are two different,
Thank you. take.
Any of them have seven spots over Lawrence? No, and that's why they're coaching and not trying to produce content because those are two different job criteria. So give us your top five quarterbacks because this is obviously, you know, especially with the way the picks have stacked in, the first three are going to be quarterbacks and maybe even four.
So how do you have them ranked? I have it Lawrence. Then I have Wilson.
And then to me, like those are pretty distinct. Like I have Lawrence clearly one Wilson clearly too.
I think it's a really good discussion between Lance and fields. I think they're really close.
Um, I could, you know, be persuaded either way. If I had more time to visit with both of them and get more comfortable with them, I think it wouldn't surprise me at all you went one or the other I have Trey Lance over fields just with the decision making protecting the football I you know I give him a little bit of a bump there but that to me is like the biggest debate is those two guys and I have Mac Jones behind them so it's interesting that you put Mac Jones at five because he's the name that you've seen kind of climbing up the draft board as we've gotten further into this offseason I feel like he's the smokescreen name like when Kyle Shanahan or somebody in the 49ers is letting word leak out that they might be considering Mac Jones is that just bait to get other teams to believe that they might have to trade up yeah I just don't know how it benefits them you know like the Jets are going to take Zach Wilson Lawrence is going to go to the Jags like You basically have the first pick in the draft with two players off the board.
Trying to hide your intentions just doesn't make any sense. I can take you guys behind the curtain on this thing, but I don't think I've ever told anybody this yet.
We were doing the pro day when the trade happened. The Niners end up...
I'd heard there was a chance it might happen, so I kind of alerted some people to be on the lookout. We could have a trade.
So we're watching Zach Wilson throw. Boom, 49ers have traded up to three.
So you're trying to react to it in real time. And so I'm like, this points to me to trade Lance because we had Steve Weitz, our reporter there.
He'd went and found Shanahan and Shanahan was like, Garoppolo is not going to go anywhere. We want to keep Jimmy.
So I'm like, oh, this points to like, you know, it's either Lance or Fields. Like you don't have to play him right away, but like huge upside.
And then, so I'm talking about this. And then I get a text from somebody who's plugged in and they're like, hey, you know, I don't think you're talking about the right quarterback.
And I'm like, I write, I write back like literally on, like we're on the air, but you just see Zach Wilson. So I'm not on screen.
So I'm texting him. I text him back and I'm like, not Trey Lance, question mark.
And he writes back. He goes, no.
And I go, if this I literally write back, if this is Mac Jones, I'm going to fall off my chair. And he wrote back, you might want to put a mattress next to your desk.
And I'm like, holy crud. So that's like if you're watching that show live, I'm like this Trey Lance, Justin Fields Lance Justin Fields and I'm like you know there could be another name to keep an eye on here like Mac don't sleep on Mac Jones potentially uh being the pick here but that's how you kind of you're hearing this stuff as it's going on real time interesting and then what would be or not like you have you have Mac Jones ranked fifth he obviously wins the national title he's on an unbelievable Alabama team what is his like weakness or what what is the thing you look at and you're like, this is what might hamper him from being a 10-year pro in the NFL? Well, I think he can be a 10-year pro.
I think he's going to be a solid starting quarterback. It's just traditionally you're not taking a guy with a third pick.
To me, I think he's got a lot of acceptable can win with this. They're like acceptable, acceptable, but not exceptional.
And when you're trading multiple first round picks to go up to the third pick, I think you, you have ideas of, man, this guy can take this offense to a whole different place. And I think he's just like fits in plugs in and, and can make the thing work as a quality starter.
But I just never, when I watch him that I envisioned a, he'd be the third pick or B or B like you'd be trading all the way up to go get him. It's just that surprised me.
Is it crazy to look at these five quarterbacks that are all going to go in the first round and know statistically that two, maybe even three of them probably won't pan out, but like it's hard to sit here in the moment and be like, I, you know, two or three three of these guys will not work even though we're sitting here and saying they have all this upside and you know trey lance and justin fields and and zach wilson and trevor lawrence are all seemingly going to be great pros it's the facts of the facts like it is what it is like there are a bunch of several these guys aren't going to work out and i think fit and and what's around him to support him is going to be a big impact on that there are very few of these guys like that's why i think trevor's pretty unique like andrew luck when he was coming out like okay i don't care where he goes like he's going to be good like that's going to work trevor lawrence wherever he goes he's going to be good it's going to work but so most of the other guys like trey lance you know what's around him with a play caller the offensive line and the pieces like that's going to largely determine whether or not he's going to be a great pro or not yeah no fault of his own it's he's at the mercy of of whatever they do the difference now versus like 10 years ago is with the contracts it's not as big a deal like it used to be like you're screwed if you miss on a kid up there you're screwed the Bucks just won a Super Bowl coming off of missing a quarterback with the first pick yeah uh future hall of famer though future hall of famer jamis no no no but yeah but look the cardinals just like that josh rosen's gone kyler murray's in like no harm no foul wait so one last question about the quarterbacks and this one interests me because i hate the packers and i hope they don't have success past aaron rogers but if aaron rogers plays for three or four years, which he most likely will, Jordan Love's got nowhere to go. How do you rank Jordan Love amongst these five quarterbacks? I mean, that's hard.
I mean, coming out just grade-wise, he would definitely be behind my top four guys. Okay, good.
Him and Mac Jones are like polar opposite players, but grade-wise, it's similar to me. Yeah, because that's an interesting one because if you're trying to think like, hey, I don't have a top ten pick, I'm not going to get one of these guys, there are other guys floating around that you might have graded.
You know, Sam Darnold going to the Panthers, you might have had him graded higher than one of these guys and take a shot at him yeah people like freaked out on me because i had tweeted out if i stacked sam donald in with this class like i would i would go trevor i would take zach and then it would be sam like i would take sam over lance and fields and people like you're crazy like dude he's 23 years old he's got i loved him coming out of usc i still think he's really good he just hadn't had had a chance. So you have to do that.
If you don't have a quarterback, those teams, Denver had to do it. Obviously, Carolina felt good about them.
They had to mix Sam in with this current group and see where he laid. So you said you've got Fields and Lance pretty much like A and B.
Which one has the bigger hands? That would be my determination factor for Flip of a coin. Hand size.
Can I look it up? Yeah, you should know this off the back of your hand. This is really a failure on my part.
Somebody on Reddit actually today just graded quarterbacks by neck girth, and they said that the quarterbacks with the girthiest necks have the best history in the NFL. So number one would be Trey Lance if we're just looking at the net.
Justin Fields is 9-8. And I'll find you Trey Lance right now.
It's probably bigger than that. Trey Lance is also 9-8.
Wow. What do you do? So then I think we have to go to arm length then.
I've got 32-1⁄2 for Fields. Okay.
Yep. Let's see.
Trey Lance, 31 and a half. Justin Fields, I was wrong.
Okay. So you're going to have to fix that.
I've got time to flip that before we get to. How close are we to actually getting into phrenology with some of the quarterback, like skull measurements? Is that, that's probably a bridge too far.
You know what? You know, they really do the, like the wrist measurements and the ankle measurements i was not on a team that really valued some teams like really really value that stuff wrist size you know what's yeah go ahead sorry no i was gonna say you know what's even crazier is like the the 40s we were talking about how the 40s aren't is relevant this year because everybody ran for three seemed like the g the most of the teams have all the gps data and the stuff that they're sorting on that is insane. How they're able to do that.
We're talking about a safety. How much ground does he cover in the first second and a half of a play? They have all that information.
It's nuts. I would imagine, with all the information and how incredible it's become where we have all this tape and everything, I'd imagine there's going to be a switch where teams start drafting more so just on character.
And guys who, you know, not want it more, but kind of want it more. Because it feels like that's where you can find an edge instead of just finding the fastest, strongest, biggest guy.
Yeah, all the data is going to give you the, a lot of the stuff on the player, you know? So your, your scouts are going to provide context and then they're going to provide the character stuff. Like that's kind of, that's the role of the scout.
Honestly, one of the reasons why I didn't want to go back into it and why I left, because I got to the point where I was doing so much background and character work on guys. And I'm like, this is not, I like watching tape and talking about him as football as football players i really don't care to talk to his high school coach for 30 minutes on the phone about a fight he got into it and in and out burger you know 20 years ago yeah i've had those conversations you never got the gig where you were assigned to just stay in a bar and see if uh justin blackman showed up for a week no no that but i know dudes that have that have have done that stuff it's just brutal man yeah yeah what um i have to ask this i don't understand what ryan pace is doing with the bears quarterback position but what is the what have you heard are they gonna try to draft someone and if they do draft someone who's the guy that you have that's maybe a third or fourth rounder that's like hey if everything goes everything goes right for him, he could be Dak Prescott or Russell Wilson, something like that? Well, I mean, I like Kellen Mond as like a second, third-round pick, but according to your intern, he's long gone by then.
Yeah, Billy's got him too. No shot at that.
Billy's high on a lot of my third, fourth-round guys, so that kind of hurts my list a little bit. Wouldn't it be hilarious if like five years from now we look back at this interview and Billy's spot on with it? Crushed it.
He's in your seat on NFL Network. Trevor Lawrence played two years and then retired because he didn't love the game.
I've got Billy's job. He's got mine.
That's totally happening. Who do you have as the best athlete in this draft? And why is it Kyle Pitts? Oh, yeah, that's probably a good one.
Yeah, I mean, he's a freak, man. Did you hear the rumor? This would be incredible, and I just like to fantasize about this.
This is a situation where we have too much time before the draft that the 49ers traded up to three to draft Kyle Pitts and have George Kittle and Kyle Pitts on the same offense and then just fuck people up that way I tweeted it like my first mock draft I I put Pitts to this is like in January I put Pitts at 12 to the Niners and then uh and people lost their minds like and I'm like they're like why would they they've got Kittle why would they take him I'm like first of all there's no chance on earth he's going to be there with the 12th pick.
I did this just because I wanted to fantasize for a minute about what Kyle Shanahan would do with Kyle Pitts.
Like, you break the huddle.
You don't know who's playing receiver, running back, tight end, anything.
All those guys can do everything.
But he ain't going to be there.
And then this week.
But they could draft him at three.
That's what I'm saying.
We went from, like, people being crazy mad at me for saying he was going to be the 12th pick to now people being like, they've traded all these first rounders to go get him at three. That's how the draft cycle kind of comes around.
But, dude, I don't think I love him. He's the second best player in the draft for me behind Lawrence.
But if you trade all that, you've got to take a quarterback. Could you imagine? Could you imagine? No, it would be awesome.
It would be awesome. Tired of imagining quarterbacks in Kyle Shanahan's system wired watching tight ends in Kyle Shanahan's system.
Yeah, and Kyle Shanahan has gotten, I think, enough leeway in terms of his success and perceived genius that if he did that, I think people would buy in. It's like Belichick can draft anyone, and everyone would be like oh that's a hall of famer like kyle shanahan's approaching that level of what does he see that no one else sees that's a good point and and dude why we're kind of workshopping this here we take kyle pitts right there at three we can get i think at 43 we can get billy's second quarterback there in the second round you come out of this thing this thing with Pitts and Billy's number two signal caller.
Calamond, yeah. Billy probably has Ben Mason, the fullback from Michigan, going in the second round.
And imagine that. I mean, he loves fullbacks, too.
You've got Juszczyk. You've got Mason.
Who's blocking who? You don't even know. I love it.
Yeah, so one of my favorite parts about the draft is the different terminology and and how it evolves from the past like back when you were scouting um one of the uh big terms that people started to use was road grader road grader became like a real thing in 90s 2000s then it kind of evolved into uh dude you just say like that guy's a dude and now i'm starting to hear the term war daddy bubble up whoa can you explain to me what a war daddy is chill out alex cooper because it sounds it sounds fucking awesome and i want to know what it is yeah he's just he's just an absolute butt kicker like he's you know you can't you can't do anything about it he's he's the most violent physical player on the field he's got hurt he's playing with a torn acl he's just he's a war daddy so who's the war daddy in this draft yeah oh that's a great question uh well usually a war daddy well i'll give you one like quinn minors from wisconsin whitewater is like a war daddy like he's just he's at the center is that the center yes that's the guy he was like blocking trees in a canada fishery yeah and snapping to yeah i remember watching all those videos yes okay that's a war daddy I like that those guys last um so if you let's just play this game real quick the uh let's see I'm looking at the the picks um oh I remember what I want to say Devante Smith you just were on with our friend Stephen She I have a debate with him, which I am fully going to gaslight him that he said the opposite if I am proven wrong. But is Devontae Smith really not going to be picked in the top ten? I just finished this conversation with him.
He's very invested in this conversation. Oh, yeah.
He doesn't realize it. He unfortunately doesn't.
He takes everything very seriously. He doesn't realize that if I'm proven wrong, I would just deny and flip it on him.
Right, exactly. But tell me, is there any chance he goes top 10? I think that I told him that I think it's probably 60-40 in his favor that he doesn't go top 10.
But it's still, you're very much in the game. Detroit, that's your spot.
Why? Are his legs too skinny? Well, I think, like I told him, he's going to be a really good pro. I don't think your frame has anything to do with how good of a player you're going to be.
But just historically, the height, weight, speed receivers are the ones that go in the top 10. And this year, with five quarterbacks, pits, and tackles, that could just kind of push him and Waddle.
I think they're two of my top six ranked players in players in the whole draft but i think both of them could go outside the top 10 see all you have to say if it does happen be like no i just had him in my top 10 yeah i had him my grade was it no i'm just gonna gaslight him and flip it and be like i always thought he was out of the top 10 you said he was you thought his talent was good enough his measurables his speed yeah i've already started that process to be honest by the way do you do you guys want me to send you i have from when i was with the ravens we had a scouting uh like a a seminar type thing at training camp one year where they uh we just went over scouting terms so i have yeah that's all i want yeah yeah it's a word document with just hundreds of scouting terms i love it i love it what's your favorite one? Or what's the one?
Well, we had an old scout.
Unfortunately, his name is Ron Marsnak.
He's since passed away.
He was with the Cowboys forever.
He was with us and the Ravens.
And he used to call defensive players.
He used to say, this guy's a butt slapper.
And I had been in the room for a couple meetings before as a first-year scout. We leave the room like, hey, Coach Ron keeps saying this guy's a butt slapper.
What does that mean? He goes, oh, it means he never arrives in time to make the tackle, but he slaps the butt of the guy who did. He's like, okay, no, I know.
He also used to say a guy was a wood hauler. And I'm like, what the heck is a wood hauler? He's like, think about somebody that's hauling wood as a blocker like they're kind of like hauling wood like they're kind of moving around they're moving around like this i'm like oh it's a pretty good descriptive yeah i feel like there's like two stacks of of words on the left you have words like dude butt dick uh and no no i think it's the other one yeah and then like oily and then on the right you've got like hips, greater, uh, daddy.
And you just, I think hips is in the second one. Hips is the other one, yeah.
And then, like, oily. And then on the right, you've got, like, hips, greater, daddy.
It's a word bank. You pick one out of every pile, and then that's your description of a guy.
But that's part of the draft that I love so much. I'm looking at the top ten here, and the Falcons are talking about maybe trading out, right? They put word out that they're open to hearing offers for that pick.
Is there any chance that the Dolphins trade back up into number four? And if so, how many times can the Dolphins trade a pick? Could teams just keep trading a pick and then they wouldn't have to actually make one? That's a great question. Because the clock resets once the trade's made, right? So you just keep infinitely going back and forth.
Yeah, I guess technically you could do that. I think the Eagles are more likely to trade back up as opposed to the Dolphins.
Like the Eagles went from, what, 6 to 12. And then I think to me, like if pits were to slide a little bit, I could, you know, I don't think that will happen.
But if for some reason Cincinnati goes with Sewell and then you have the
Dolphins and they like Jamar Chase, take Jamar Chase.
I could see the Eagles maybe saying, okay, we could trade back up to seven
or eight for pits and maybe still hold on to the first round pick next year.
You got for sliding from six to 12, like Howie Roseman, just, he loves that.
He loves the action.
So it would not surprise me at all if he traded back
only to come back up again yeah i'm gonna make you do a reputation pick both ways okay i want the guy who you think is going to be uh great and that you've fallen in love with can't be one of the obvious ones and then a guy we won't bash anyone but a guy who there's a lot of love for him and you just kind of don't see it the same way yeah I'll say uh Jameen Davis the linebacker from Kentucky is like one of my favorite players in the draft so he'll probably go late first but he's he's a stud man like he is so explosive and he can really cover so linebackers like that that can cover these tight ends like there's tremendous value so I love his game and then I mean, I think Penne Sewell is a really good player, but I don't think he's kind of the Hall of Fame level player that he's been described as. So I'm a little bit on an island from a media standpoint, but I know there's a lot of teams that feel that way.
So I like him. I like Slater better than him.
I thought Slater was just better on tape than he he was and i like the top three tackles last year for me were beckton uh uh worths and wills those three guys i would take them over over panay he's still young he's got a huge upside he's gonna be a good player i'm not he's not a bust or anything like that he's a really good player but what he just said was he doesn't love football and we'll put a graphic up that says daniel jeremiah projects and then big red letters bust. No, I appreciate that, though, because I have not heard anyone say, like, hey, I don't think he's a surefire Hall of Famer, which that's kind of what he's been talked about, like how he's been talked about.
So I think that's also, I think Jeff Schwartz just tweets about him too much. Yeah, Jeff.
Jeff's great. But the funny thing about this is, like, your conviction always gets challenged.
challenged. Like it's one thing like you have a take on somebody and then you hop on social media and you're just getting braided and beat up for your opinion on the guy.
Right. And they can cause you, you know, usually that doesn't shake your confidence.
Like, OK, this guy know anything. I, you know, I hopefully am better, quote unquote, trained.
But then I'm not I'm not a huge Panay Sewell guy. And one of the reasons is I've said I was around Jonathan Ogden with the Ravens.
I was around Joe Thomas with the Browns. I was around Jason Peters with the Eagles.
These are studs. But it does shake your confidence a little bit when one of those guys, i.e.
Joe Thomas, sends you a text like, bro, I love Panay Sewell. How do you not have him as the top guy? I'm like, Joe, I've been saying he's not you.
He's like, well, he kind of reminds me of myself reminds me of myself just stop just stop oh no that that'll shake you a little bit when you get that one yeah can you um here's one that uh i've had a debate with some people some byu fans online what happened with zach wilson's captainship was he a captain or was he not so yeah i did like a deep dive on this i did too much i had like people were sending me but like pictures of him with the c yes yes and then saying but no no no but that wasn't at the beginning of the year and then he was a game captain not a team captain and this is voted on by the team and this is and i'm like there's so much information out there in this whole thing and i'm like then the people are sending me pictures of him walking out with the captains. So what did you find out? I'm desperate to know because I literally had this like one of those moments like hey put your phone down dude.
You're debating with some dude who doesn't have an avatar who's sending you Zach Wilson pictures with a C on his chest and I'm sending him back articles that say he wasn't voted a captain. What did you find? So what I found out was that it was later on in the process he had earned his captaincy or what have you.
So it wasn't right from the beginning, but he had earned it. But I didn't even really put it.
I just was talking to the coaches and trying to figure out leadership-wise and all that stuff, and he checked all that stuff. He was good there, so I wasn't going to obsess over that.
but not voted a captain. No, it sounds like he was a game captain.
Yeah. Meaning like, yeah, that's asterisk.
It should have been a C with an asterisk next to it. And it's stupid.
It is stupid. But at the same time, it's very hard to not be a captain when you're the quarterback.
Well, I think the way it was kind of explained to me was he actually had to kind of win the job again, you know, coming back because he played really well in 2018 then has the the shoulder injury on his throwing shoulder right after that season that you know coming off a bowl game I think he was like 18 for 18 in the bowl game in 18 so then has his shoulder surgery so he's recovering from that he's totally he's not totally healthy he plays okay in 2019 then hurts his thumb so he missed some time with that on his throwing hand. So 2019 was really kind of recover from the shoulder, bad thumb, and then 2020 was like a totally different dude because he was healthy.
He was totally healthy. Yeah.
Okay, I got one last question for you. Is there going to be over under .5 kickers and punters drafted this year? Over.
Okay. I haven't watched any of them, but I'll go with the odds on that one and take the over.
I think there is one that's rumored for the sixth round. Okay, follow-up question.
Hold on. That's a great reminder because every year, two days before the draft, I'll call a GM and I'll go, hey, I have not watched any of these kickers and punters.
I really don't care to. Just tell me who the top three punters are, who the top three kickers are, and I will sell that like it's nobody's business when those guys get picked.
All right, so follow-up. The draft is going to be in Cleveland this year.
They're letting fans onto the field to kick field goals as the draft is going on. Be great for Cody Parkey's confidence.
Yeah. If, hypothetically, somebody were to step up during the draft, maybe it's on that Saturday.
Maybe it's, you know, you're getting the sixth round, seventh round.
Just a random person steps up there and absolutely drills a 35-yarder,
splits the up rates by like 10 yards.
Would have been good from like 46.
Is there any chance that maybe Mike Vrabel tells Sloman,
beat it, I'm drafting this guy?
I would say similar to the odds of Devontae Smith going in the top 10. That's a 40-60 operation there.
Okay. All right.
Keep your hopes alive. I like those odds.
I wasn't talking about me. Just odds for the fan.
If it was the fan, the brown bag. Yeah.
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I know we probably asked you this last year when you were on, but I love to just do it uh give us a name that you just totally missed you screwed up worst pick ever three let's say three or four years ago i mean i go back further than that i mean the obvious one for me is danny watkins i was in philadelphia when we drafted him okay um and uh in hindsight like i know we had talked to him on the phone um scouts i don't remember if it was that night or it was the next day and uh we were talking to him and it was like some noise in the background and he was out like i think he was is there such thing as like like pig hunting or hog hunting yes yes i watched a video on youtube black hog down they just go in a helicopter and they fucking shoot them all up i swear to god he was doing that like after the draft. And then, you know, obviously he loved firefighting and all that stuff and hunting.
He didn't really. He was one who legitimately did not like football.
But that was, yeah, that was not great, man. And you're like, yeah, that didn't end well.
What about as an analyst? Like, let's say three years ago. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. Oh, my gosh.
Mahomes is my worst one. my worst one i mean because you know i thought he was total boomer bust um all you know all this raw talent but he was so like not ready to go so i was hesitant on that one and obviously this guy's the freaking best player in the nfl so that's pretty bad miss yeah and maybe best player in the history of the nfl you had him graded as a bus.
That's not great. That's not on the billboard.
What about this quote here? Billy sent this over. It's Trevor Lawrence.
The quote is, well, it's actually from his dad. Trevor Lawrence's dad on Trevor's mentality.
He's not, I want to win a Super Bowl at all costs. Quote from his high school coach.
He could walk away from it tomorrow and be fine. Oh, what do you think? That's breaking news right there.
Yeah, I think Billy made this quote up. I tried to get you with the Shannon Sharp, Kevin Durant.
Yeah, he photoshopped that for sure. For sure.
Well, yeah. All I would say on that stuff, because you'll see different quotes come out on guys, but I would be like, look, what the preparation like and and what's the play like if if he's putting in the time um you know if he if he doesn't die with each and every loss like i think burrow would like burrow was wired differently than that like burrow wears those losses big time um but if if they're both putting in all the preparation yeah it's not a big deal yeah um all right well daniel jeremiah thank you so much always fun we're excited for the draft everyone go check him out move the sticks on twitter and instagram and move the sticks podcast with bucky brooks thank you so much and uh good luck on draft night appreciate you guys great to see you again all right see you man daniel jeremiah is brought to you by our great friends over at sport clips Clips stylists are experts in men's and boys' haircuts.
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And now, here's Troops. And now for something completely different.
Okay, we now welcome on our good friend, Troops, recurring guest. You can go listen to his podcast back again.
He is our colleague. He's an Arsenal fan.
And we just started talking before we got on. He is a huge proponent of the Super League.
He knows this is great for soccer. He knows that finally Americans have gotten their hands into the beautiful game.
and we have finally figured it out where we can get no no no there's no premier league it's the super league so troops congratulations all your hard work done uh it's a great day to be a soccer fan nah it's not blood why because they're taking the heart and soul out of football. You lot don't understand.
You lot, you understand, in NBA, no one gets relegated, blood. You play the same dead teams every year.
It's boring, blood. Like, there's nothing fun, like, you understand? You say, oh, the playoffs.
Fuck the playoffs, blood. You understand? I want my FA Cup.
I want my Carabao Cup. I want my Champions League, my Europa League, my Premier League.
I don't want just one tournament, Vlad. Well, okay.
I hear you, but if you combined all that, wouldn't it make the Super League? I mean, it's super. It's literally super.
It says it in the name. Nah, but all it is is money, Vlad.
You understand? It's just all the... Okay.
Let's actually talk about it. We'll keep trolling you, but let's explain it to the people who...
we did it off the top of the show, but we probably did a terrible job because we don't really know, but we kind of know. So explain how this happened and whether it's actually going to happen.
That's the part I think that we have no idea and we just guessed at. Can this actually happen? Will it actually go through? Well, this has been rumored for years now you understand it's
been rumored for a long time um former arsenal coach arson wenger came out and said in 2018 that in years to come there could be a format where the elite teams of football break away from the leagues and form their own type of leading like a super league format now
what year was that?
this was in 2018
wait what?
2018 type of league team like a super league format yeah now what year was that this was in 2018 20 wait what 20 2018 2018 okay that's fucking cool 28 2018 fake hammer blood i swear down so he said that there's a possibility that happening and you thought that like it was a empty threat that was put out there no not an empty threat because when you look at the way football is going, it is money orientated now. If you don't spend, you don't win.
The clubs at the top are the richest. That's how it is now.
It's not like back in the day when you could grow the youth and then put the youth into the team and then grow the team. Man United did that.
Arsenal did that back in the day. You can't do that no more.
You have to go out and spend the big bucks and get your Mbappes and your Messi, them kind of players to elevate. Also, you could see it coming.
But, you never thought it would come because the clubs that were involved in England are the historic clubs. They're the fuck.
You call them the founding fathers. Like, you lot got your founding fathers in America, innit? They're the ones that beat you.
Nah, they never beat that. Do you consider that in a way result? Do you get a point for that because you lost in America? Nah, not at all, Blunt.
You get me? We chose to lose to you lot. Just remember that you lot still speak English.
You don't speak American. You wanted the higher draft pick.
You tanked that one. one got it you're a well-added by the way troops i got bad i got bad i got bad news for you uh one of the founding fathers of the nfl is actually the chicago bears oh is that your team yeah but that that that actually bodes poorly for what you're going to say here because the bears are a terribly run organization and it sounds like now you have the founding fathers of the EPL like they're going to ruin the entire Premier League right so what happens when they make the Super League what will will those teams still those teams won't play in the Premier League at all so what will happen is if the Super League comes to fruition then there's no more we can't play in the Premier League we can't play in the Premier League.
We can't play in the Champions League. We can't play in the FA Cup, the Carabao Cup.
Our players can't play international football neither. UEFA have come out and said that they will ban...
No, sorry, FIFA have come out and said that they will ban anybody who plays for a European Super League team from playing international football and any other form of football
apart from European Super League football.
So you're not only fucking over the fans
who go to games week in, week out,
the other people that don't support the big teams
who dream of playing at the Emirates Stadium,
playing at Old Trafford,
playing at Anfield.
Even PFT's team, you're taking the dream away from PFT. He's running for top four right now.
He's running for Champions League. That dream is dead.
You're done out. Your dream is finished.
Wouldn't it be easier for a middle-of-the-road team to then win the EPL if they get rid of Arsenal? No, but then this is the thing. Without Arsenal because you're not in the top four, but a team that was good.
If they're no longer in the league, it makes it easier for the Crystal Palaces of the world. No, but then this is the thing.
The Crystal Palaces of the world, you're taking their chance of playing at an Emirates, at an Anfield, at a Bernabeu, at a Nou Camp, at a Bayern Munich stadium, at Juventus' ground, at the San Siro. You're taking that dream away from them.
You're taking the dream away from Leicester, who won the league in 2016. Some little any team won the league up against United, Arsenal, City, Liverpool, Chelsea, the greats of English football.
They won the league and then had the chance to go and play in Europe. You're taking that away from them.
So then they can't play Madrid away. They can't play Barca away.
Their fans ain't going to experience what we experience on a daily. You understand? Because for us, like right now, the teams in the top six who are in the Super League, we're in pole position because our money's coming to us.
We're going to have this and that. But we're defending, like the true fans, we're defending the smaller teams because we're like, now you're taking the piss flood because I enjoy going to the small grounds.
It's more homely. It's raw.
It's where football's made. Like I remember when Arsenal, we played a team called Southern United.
They was in, they was in like the fifth, they was in that five leagues below us.
I mean, our ground is 60,000 capacity.
Their ground is 2,000.
When you go away at a Premier League ground,
you get minimum 2,000 away fans to go to that ground.
We had 200 fans in that ground.
And you was like, you could literally touch the players' blood.
Like, you could, Alexis was there.
I was like, I could grab Alexis. I could grab Ozil.
You're taking that away from man blood. They're bastards.
They're money driven. I'm understanding this more.
I made the analogy for American sports fans. If the top baseball teams just said, fuck it, because they can spend more money.
But but actually the more you explain it the way to like fully understand how truly fucked this is and fucked up this is would be if it was college and like the because like all right so for the big 10 football which you won't understand but our listeners will the everyone gets mad because Ohio State always wins but my point is always that you know the year that you beat Ohio State is an insane year for your team. Even though you're not going to be as good as Ohio State year in and year out, playing at Ohio State, going to Ohio State, beating them in Columbus is like a memory that you'll have forever as a fan.
So if you took like Ohio State and, you know, the top teams out of each, Alabama didn't play in the SEC anymore, and they played in their own league.
Or if it was college basketball, if Duke didn't play in March Madness.
Well, sorry, that's a bad analogy because that actually you can think about it this year.
But it would be similar like that.
You would have those moments that you lose where it's like, so I get it.
This actually really, really sucks.
Now my question, though, we talked about this at the top too,
about how FIFA could basically ban Super League players from playing in the World Cup do you think that that would actually stop players from playing in the Super League do you think that these type of bands will actually have the effect of keeping the Super League from forming I think it will because the true players, as a child, you dream of playing for your
country. You dream of playing
for your favourite team, but your country's always a dream.
You watch that. As a kid, you watch the
Euros. You see man like Gascoigne
banging them in top bins, Shearer banging it
in top bins. You're like, yo, that could be me.
Like a French kid growing up,
he could have seen Henry winning the World Cup,
Zidane winning the World Cup, Mbappe winning the World Cup.
Like, yo, I want to do that.
I want to be the next Mbappe. I want to score
in a World Cup final. You're taking that away from the players, bro.
So how do the players even feel themselves, bro? How do the players at this top six clubs feel themselves? They should be sitting there. The real players should be sitting there and be like, now, fuck this.
I'm not playing the next game. I'm not playing the next game, bro.
But if their salaries are high enough, if they're paying tens of millions of dollars more per year than they could get in another league, you're going to see a lot of those players try to do it. But I guess my question is, why is FIFA taking this stand? What's in it for FIFA to kind of side with the old way of how things have always been and to shut down the start of this new league? Is there a direct incentive for them to keep things in place the way they are? The way it is now, yeah, is every team has an opportunity.
Every team has a chance. No matter how shit you are, how broke you are, you've got a chance.
When you take this away, so in England, you've got the FA Cup. You could have a Sunday league team that plays on a Sunday, kick a bat in the park.
But they have a chance to play in the FA Cup. But they have to qualify.
But imagine they qualified and got to the third round. And then they got drawn against an Arsenal or a Knight in a way.
These are men that just literally go to work. Normal guys could be builders, plumber, doctors.
And then their hobby is football. They play football to stay fit.
And then next thing you know, you've been drawn against Arsenal away. You're walking out of the Emirates Stadium.
60,000 fans. Hairs on the back of your fucking hair, just hairs on the back of your neck, standing up, blood.
You understand? You're taking the core away from what it is blood and it's you're ruining it and then players the real players that will sit there and be like nah fuck that i'm not going there i'm gonna go leicester because if i go leicester i can play for england i can go to the world cup i can win more trophies if you go to the super league yeah yeah you'll have money but when you get into sport when you, you're judged on what you want. You're not judged on how much you made.
You're judged on what you want because if you're great in football, if you win things and dominate in your sport and dominate in your position, when you finish football, because you're great, doors will open for you. People will want to talk to you.
People will want you to manage children. People will want you to work, like if you're a legend of a club, they want you to come in the club because you're a legend.
People that sign for the club, you all want to sign for Arsenal because of Henri. Boom, Henri's in the club.
Ashley Cole. Fuck yourself, club.
But I guess what I'm asking is like, I get that. I get why you want to keep these traditions in place.
It makes a lot of sense. I'm curious why FIFA is making it publicly known that they're opposed to formation like the governing body of fifa that controls international soccer why are they why are they opposed to a new league that would uh that would pay the players more but then obviously like ruin the institutions that they have what's in it for fifa to come out so forcefully on the side of the fans their credit this.
This is like the first time I remember FIFA doing something publicly where everybody was
like, thank you, yes, we appreciate it.
So what's in it for them?
What's their angle on this?
I don't think there's nothing in it for them.
I just think that they've looked at it from a human perspective.
And because some of the officials at FIFA could support a small team.
It's not guaranteed that the FIFA officials will support an Arsenal or a Man United or a Juventus or a Real Madrid or a Barcelona. They could support a Valencia.
They could support a Villarreal. They could support an Aston Villa.
They could support a Swansea. They could support a Brentford.
They could support a Barnet. It's not guaranteed that they support a big team.
So they probably feel affected as well by that. And then they could have children.
And then their kids could want to play if it's not guaranteed that they support a big team. So they probably feel affected as well by that.
And then they could have children and then their kids could want to play for their country. And then their kids are like, yo, dad, yo, what's going on? So if I play for them, I can't, you can't do that.
So I think FIFA's just looked at it from a human perspective and they're like, football, it works the way it is. You understand? We can always better it, but we don't have to break away and literally change the whole thing.
Yeah. Everything you're saying makes sense.
And I mean, I agree. We're going to troll because it's fun and it's also – Yeah, I know.
It's very clear that this is an Americanized version of sport, which makes it very funny because just to be like, yeah, we fixed a sport that didn't need fixing. But so how do you think this plays out? A lot of people are saying this also could just be a bargaining chip to try to get Champions League qualifiers changed a little bit so that like the top teams always are in Champions League so they don't miss out on that money.
Do you think this could actually happen? Or do you think this is a bargaining play and there'll be a ton of talks and eventually Super League won't happen? I think this could happen, Blood, because when you check the levels, Arsenal are owned by an American, Stan Kroenke. Genius.
Wanker. I've already put out hashtag find Kroenke.
I'm coming for you when I come back to America what are you going to do what are you going to do shake his hand because he got you into the Super League nah none of that even when you look at Liverpool the Henry's John Henry American you look at United wanker as well you look at the glazers you're just naming teams that are all like owners that are all enormously successful in American sports. Yeah, businessmen.
Yeah, but I don't give a fuck about America, blood. I don't give a fuck about American sports, blood.
I care about Arsenal Football Club, yeah? That's what I care about, blood. I've moved to America to make football cool, blood, yeah? I'm doing my job, you understand? These man need to do their fucking job, blood.
I expect returns, yeah? I'm not getting my fucking returns, blood.'m fucking fuming, blad. You understand? But then, like I said, Arsenal have an American owner.
Magnet have an American owner. Liverpool have an American owner.
Chelsea have a Russian owner, but they are run by Bruce Buck, who is a fucking American as well, blad. Genius.
You have fucking Joe Lewis, who runs Tottenham. He's a fucking American.
Not only is a Tottenham owner makes him a prick, he's a fucking American as well, blood. And then you have the only team in there who is not American is Man City, who are owned by Arabs.
Shout out my Arab niggas. Arab money.
But you understand, you and you, man, you can fuck your money as well, blood. You understand? So when you look at the whole, the whole just of it, and then you see who's on the board, Joe Glazer, fucking American, blood.
You understand? It's you, man, blood. You might not try to come over here and ruin our team
and turn our team into your dead team.
You understand?
We're not having none of that, blood.
But it's called...
We're not having none of that.
Super.
NBA is a business.
NFL is a business.
Football is a sport.
What about...
What a rant.
What about Richmond?
There is a difference, blood.
Yeah?
I've had enough of this shit, blood.
Yeah?
When I come back into Barstool, niggas are going to know that Troops is back again, rude boy. Back again, again.
The time is over for the game. Time is over, blood.
Yeah. I've got that wave up.
I'm coming back, motherfuckers. It's very funny that American sports owners are doing to European soccer, basically what Meghan Markle did to your entire royal family.
We got Meghan Markle. We got Meghan Mark R.I.P.
R.I.P. Prince Philip.
Sorry for your loss. I have to.
I don't know about that, but R.I.P. to Prince Philip.
I don't troll the dead. R.I.P.
to you. Same.
But big up Meghan Markle. That's my dog.
Black Lives Matter. You already fucking know.
Gang business. Big up man like Harry.
You get me? Me and you could bun weed anytime, blood. Man's got them candy packs on deck for you, my brother.
You get me? How quickly would you become? Max B as well, blood. Don't forget that, blood.
Three-man nigga, Max B, Harlem, we in the building. Max B, we're original Max B supporters.
We have always been supporting Max B. Yeah.
Come on, that's my man, baby. Yeah, no, that's our guy.
Mr. Portnoy is a big Max B fan, too.
We love Max B. I bet Portnoy's never been Harlem.
You mad, blood. No, Max B.
No, no, you don't understand. We have a long history with Max B.
So how quickly into Arsenal, like if they start to compete for a Super League title, you're going to be like, yeah, fuck yeah, Arsenal's the best. You're going to very quickly hold the Super League trophy and put that in the trophy case with all the other ones that you have, right? Well, obviously, if we're in it, then I want to win it, innit? But I don't want to go in it.
But I don't want to go in it. Yeah, I don't want to go in it.
Yeah, but obviously, if we're in it, then I want to win it, isn't it? But I don't want to go in it. But I don't want to go in it.
Yeah, I don't want to go in it. Yeah, but obviously, if we're in it, then I want to win it.
But I don't want to go in it. Troops, you have to, I think, as such a public figure in the Arsenal community, I think you have to say that if Arsenal goes in the Super League, you're not an Arsenal fan anymore.
No, but it's mad, bro. I love that club.
I follow there's a there's a song we all follow the Arsenal over Landancy you get me so I'm gonna have to follow them to even the song actually goes watch this now the song actually goes we all follow the Arsenal over Landancy and Leicester but I'm gonna have to change it to we all follow the Arsenal over Landancy and the Super League. Yeah.
I have to, it's like what they're doing, this is the fuckery now, isn't it? This is the fuckery of being involved from a fan point of view with your club, who's one of the six teams that have been, who have come out, because Arsenal have already announced it on their Twitter, that they're one of the teams and they're going ahead with the proceedings so for me it's a catch 22 because I don't agree with it but I've supported this team all my life it's brought me some of the best memories of my fucking life I've cried tears of joy I've cried tears of pain i nearly fucking threw big cat through a window like bro like you named your kid ashley cole fuck yourself but like it's i'm emotionally attached to this team like it's like one of my children bro i can't like i can't it's mad i can't just let them go in it like it's a fuck situation, isn't it? Like, if they do it, which I don't know, from my point of view, I think it's going to happen, McCart, money talks. And JP Morgan saying he's going to put 6 billion into this team.
And he's saying that every team that even accepts the invitation is going to get 435 million. Right.
And even they're saying that if you win the Super League, you're going to get more money than like if you won the Premier League, the Champions League, FA Cup, any cup combined times it by two. That's what you win if you win one Super League, like.
And money makes the world go round, bro. You understand? Money, if you have money, you have the power, blood.
You understand?
So I'll fear the worst, bro.
Damn.
So what's the future of the EPL going to be after the Super League gets formed?
Swans is coming up.
Man like you winning leagues, blood.
You're actually going to have fucking trophies in your life now, blood.
Normally, all you do is lift your misses onto your fucking face
and do up your American business.
Oh, no, that sounds awful.
But now you can actually put a trophy. Sorry, we've been eating too much pussy to win EPL titles.
Yeah. Jamaica, I would say, you understand? We're not diving, you see me? We're diving away, blood.
You understand? Listen, I'm actually happy we got you on because we have been trolling. Yeah, I know you have.
I see your tweets, you wanker. It's clear that this sucks this sucks it sucks for you guys it sucks if you're a sports fan like and this happened to anything you cared about it would fucking suck so i i actually understand how stupid this is and how they got to stop it how do we stop it then bro i put out a tweet and said like do we protest do we go to the training ground do we go to the stadiums everyone's on it but because like like England's not open how America is in it like even New York is at 50 percent I heard that we can step out until midnight now so it's it's opening gradually London has literally just said that shops are open so you can go to like Foot Locker and all of that now blood so apparently if you if you're seen protesting and caught, you can get grabbed in it, you understand? We do it up three troops of them ting there, you get me? Where you should probably hunger strike.
We believe, like they know what they're doing, bro. They've dropped it at the right time, blood.
Corona's here, so you can't get out. There's no fans in stadiums, so fans can't protest at games.
They're very smart when they've dropped it, bro. It's very strategic.
Very strategic because if he was at the games, if I was, like, we got a game on Friday, we had a game today. I would have probably, I'm in the country, so I would have been at the game, 100%.
I would have been at the game. You understand? Home or away, I would have been there if I'm in the country.
So we would have had banners out there like, fuck you, man, Red Teh Teh, out da da da da save the premier league save save football and now it's you're in a catch-22 because if you go on protest you're gonna get arrested that's gonna fuck up your record what's gonna go on them blood people got kids to feed you understand how mortgages to pay they're fucking bastards blood that's the word they are fucking bastards bro ripping the soul out of a sport that is the most popular sport in the fucking world blood like banter aside football is the biggest sport in the world blood you could go ask anybody in the world do you know Cristiano Ronaldo or Lionel Messi they'll say yes 100% they'll say yes blood you could go to the smallest country in the world and you'll find a Cristiano Ronaldo jumper or a Lionel Messi jersey you will find it you won't go to every country and find a Tom Brady or find a LeBron the biggest thing you have is LeBron but you won't go to certain countries and these men will not know LeBron they will know Ronaldo they will know Zidane they will know legends of this game you're trying to break something that's been going for fucking years blood years this thing's been going and you pussy-holes think you can come over with your fucking billions and just ruin this thing football is for the working man, it's for the poor man if you're being totally brutally honest blood, football's a ghetto sport blood, football's the It's for the poor man. If you're being totally, brutally honest, blud.
Football's a ghetto sport, blud. Football's the cheapest part, like, it's the cheapest item you could buy of sport.
Tennis, racket and ball. When you buy cricket, you've got to buy the cricket bat, you've got to buy the stumps.
When you buy the baseball, you've got to buy the baseball, the fucking, the baseball fucking bat. You've got to buy the fucking helmet.
You've got to buy the ball. You've got to buy the pads.
Football, you literally buy, literally put your trainers and buy a ball and you're gone. You're gone.
Anyone can play that football. Football's a multilingual sport.
Football brings cultures together. Football, it's, it's your fucking bastards, blud.
Don't say, why isn't you? Why, why isn't you? I don't, I mean like, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, these, You know a lot of you in it, blood. You know a lot of you in it You fucking trolls But we are Super League fans But yeah not us It's heartbreaking Is it a possibility For there to be like an organized fan strike Where you're like listen Once the Super League starts We're not going to go to games And we're not going to watch it on TV? Is that even a possibility? And then you, like, threaten people that are watching it on TV, and you call them scabs, and you're like, you can't watch this game.
Because you can take away all the money from them. And PFT is right.
Like, football is the one – sorry, I just said football. Soccer is the one sport where – See, you're getting into it now, blood.
No, no, you got me in my feels a little. You got me in in my feels a little but soccer is the one sport where you see fans uh like come together unlike any other sport so i mean could that happen bro like the power of loving it and the power of unity blood we need that now in it you understand if the super league starts everyone that's the only way i could see going tits up.
Is everybody just says, yo, fuck this. Man, they're supporting this.
Man, they're buying no tops. Man, they're buying no kits.
Man, they're buying no season ticket renewal. None of that, blah.
Man, they're watching the games. Man's going to cancel the Sky subscription, cancel the cable subscription, cancel all of that shit, blah.
That's the only way that this team's going to stop. If you support it,
then they're just man going to run with it.
What if we do a GoFundMe
for like literally
every single team
in professional soccer
and then they get money
that they would have gotten
or you just direct the money
to the teams that are
joining the Super League.
Do you think we could get
$400 million per team?
No fucking way, bro.
You know what we should do?
We should do a GoFundMe
and then we should use all that GoFundMe money and play the lottery and then disperse the winnings that's smart you might not want all right sorry that we have actual solutions this problem last question how the fuck is that a solution i think i think what the only way out of this is just every jp morgan bank in america gets robbed i didn't say it. I didn't say it.
All right. Last question, troops.
All right. Everything aside, because you are very passionate.
I'm happy we had you on. I agree.
Fuck the Super League. I appreciate it, bro.
I'm going to do you a solid. I'm going to change my Twitter handle back.
I was back again. I was Super League Cat for about an hour.
I'm going to go back to Big Cat. But my last question is this.
Just everything, let's throw everything out, everything you said. We agree.
It's fucked up. It shouldn't happen.
Just admit this. The name Super League is fucking sick.
Nah, it's shit, bro, because Super League, do you know why it's shit, yeah? Because you don't know aboutit blood yeah the rugby league is called the Super League bro I don't fuck with rugby blood rugby's some posh man ting fam man don't deal with them ting there blood rugby's the queen sport blood man don't fuck with that blood that's fucking the man that play croquet and them ting there fuck all of that that's her majesty and them nah none of that blood that's them lot blood I That's them lot, blood. I'm on the other side, blood.
You understand? I'm on the other side, Rude Boy. You get me? I'm on the other side.
I'm not even allowed on that side of the fence, blood. You get me? They'll run me away, blood.
You understand? I'm sorry that you can't tackle somebody. That's what I hear from you, troops, is you just grew up not using your arms on anything.
And you're like, you know what? I'll just break your leg with a two-footed, I'll just break your leg with a two-footed blood simple but seriously super league the names you can't get any super than the super league nah it's so american but you see what i'm saying you fucking yankee man you just try to come over and just come out with your fucking the european super league what kind of fucking bullshit okay all right how about this european super league presented by coca-c, you see presented. Is that good? Presented by McDonald's.
Fucking dead, fam. Yeah.
Northrop Grumman presents the European Super League. Fuck that, bro.
All right. Well, thank you for joining us.
We know it's late in England right now. We're excited to see you next week.
And we appreciate it. And we're officially anti-Super League.
Yeah, fuck Super League, fuck crunky as well dude you tell me we get a we get a hashtag going you tell me i'll fucking start i'll tweet it on everything every tweet will have the hashtag hashtag fine crunky no he's a great american businessman i'm done with you yeah i'm gonna leave i'm gonna cancel the fucking stream. Troops.
We'll see you in a couple of days. All right.
Nah, big up, man. All right.
Thanks, man. See ya.
All right. See ya.
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Okay, we're going to wrap up the show with an old thing that we used to do. It's been a few years, obviously.
It is calling Marlon's man at a game. On Sunday Night Baseball.
On Sunday Night Baseball while he's on the screen. Because everyone knows you watch Sunday Night Baseball, not for the teams but for Marlon's man.
I don't even watch it when it's in Cleveland because you can't see the fans behind him. Correct.
Correct. So Marlon's man is there.
This is actually the biggest nature's healing moment that I've had in a very long time is seeing Marlon's man out there. there.
Marlins man is out there. All right.
Hopefully he picks up. Let's give him a try.
If he doesn't pick up, we'll do it again some other time. But let's do it.
Marlins man, pick up, please. What are we going to have him do? I mean, it's a 10-run game.
He's still there, though. Also, a lot of wind.
And just want to shout out A-Rod personally because he announced tonight's game with a broken heart.
Yeah.
So I would like to see you losers try to do that.
Should we make a hand sign for fuck the Super League?
Oh, yeah.
What is it?
I think it's just the middle finger.
He won't do it.
It's too classy.
No, he is too classy.
All right.
The stool.
The stool will be the fuck the Super League sign. Yeah, yeah.
All right. It's too classy.
No, he is too classy. All right.
The stool. The stool will be the fuck, the Super League sign.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, Billy's still drunk.
He just started fucking his fingers. He's doing the interlocking thing and then open it up.
Watch this, Billy. Watch this.
Ready? Moonshield wipers. Isn't that cool? You guys remember when this one was out in the streets for a while? See the church.
See the people. Wait.
I can't even. What are you doing? Dude, you haven't done this one.
Are you trying to call him, Hank? This one. Can you do that? Can you do this? Upside down? Billy, why don't you give us an animal fact? Oh, no, it's like...
Give us an animal fact. Might as well.
Marlin's Man not picking up. Getting ducked by Marlin's Man is a pretty low point.
Yeah, this sucks. He's checked his phone multiple times.
Marlins are different than Swordfish. No.
How? Swordfish has never won a title. It's true.
How are they different, Billy? Actually, they might be exactly the same. Yeah, they could be.
But they could also not be. All right, here we go.
Here's the call. Okay.
Please pick up. We're watching him on TV right now.
He's got it. You know what? He's out of practice.
He's directly behind the ump, which is a terrible spot for Marlins Man when people want to see him. Us true fans.
I've also noticed that he hasn't been on his phone as much as he used to be in the past. He used to be like two cell phones.
Oh, he's looking. He just looked.
He just looked. Pick up Marlins Man.
Come on. Pick up Marlins Man.
Don't send us a voicemail. Hi.
Oh, no. Thank you for calling.
Push the star button to leave me a message right away. He's on his phone right now.
He's looking at it right now. I'm watching Marlinsman reject our call in real time.
Brutal. It's your son, Marlinsman.
All right. Hang up.
Oh, hey, Marlinsman. We're leaving a message.
We're taping part of my take right now. It's sad that you didn't pick up, but we'll get you another time, dude.
We love you. Don't worry about texting.
Yeah, don't worry about
texting. Don't call us back.
We'll call you. I'm sure we'll see you around.
Yeah, but it's great to see you behind
home plate. Feels like everything's back.
So, love you.
Numbers.
Give me an 8. 18.
Give me an 8.
99.
Hank. Hank.
36.
Okay, this is big. What was that? 66.
39. Hank.
Hank. Hank.
36. Okay.
This is big. What was that? 66.
62. All right.
Another loser. Cats don't know algebra.
Wait. You gave us the marlins and the...
Twofer. Swordfish.
Twofer. I never listen to your animal facts.
Have you been mailing it in like that? Oh, yeah. Oh, wow.
No, no, no. Two for instance.
I think one was like, elephants don't practice religion.
No, no, no.
That was a good one.
That was a good one.
No, elephants know religion.
And now he's just doing this.
What?
What's this?
Cats don't know algebra.
Do they?
Right.
Okay.
You don't know that.
That's good.
Love you guys. Talking away Though I don't know what I'm about to say I'll say it anyway Today is another day To find you shying away I'll be coming for your lover Okay Take on me Take on me Take me So needless to say I'm all just saying it But I need some little weight Slowly learning that life is okay Say up to me It's better to be safe than sorry Take on me Take on me Take on me I'll be gone To the dream To the dream All the dreams that you say
Is it a light bulb
Just to play my worries away
You're all the things I've got to remember
When you're shying away
I'll be coming for you anyway
Take on me
Take on me
Take me
Thank you. Take on me.
Take on me.
Take me.
Take on me.
I'll be gone.
Take on me.
Take on me.
Take me. Take on me.
Take on me. Take me off.
Take on me.
I'll bring you.
Take on me.
Take me off.
Take on me.
Take on me. Take on me.
Take on me.
Take me.
Take on me.