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Speaker 3 Billy, you're. Where are you going? We're recording.
We're live. We're live.
Yeah, we're live. We're live.
Breathe into the mic, though.

Speaker 3 Billy showed up hammered. I'm not hammered.

Speaker 3 I'm not.

Speaker 3 Breathe. Just breathe in.
Breathe while you eat. Don't eat into the mic.
Just breathe.

Speaker 6 What would a breathalyzer register on you right now, Billy?

Speaker 3 This is a cold opening, by the way.

Speaker 6 Dude, I'm not drunk.

Speaker 3 No, just answer questions. I know.
Yeah, yeah, no, no. This is a cold opening.
We have a great show for everyone. Daniel Jeremiah, we got troops.
We got Super League. We're going to talk

Speaker 3 maybe some baseball, some NBA, some great Monday stuff. But, Billy.
What are you doing right now, Billy? He got his burrito.

Speaker 3 You're not going to get to talk for most of the show because you are drunk, but just show everyone how you breathe while you eat. Do it.
Do it. Do it.
Do it right now.

Speaker 3 Dude, I think your septum's fucked up.

Speaker 3 That's such a jacked-up nose, dude. It's so fucked up.

Speaker 8 My nose is so fucked up.

Speaker 3 No, we're not talking about the size.

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Today is Monday, April 19th, and it is Super League time.

Speaker 6 Tired Super team debates, wired super league debates.

Speaker 3 Hey, PFD, did you hear about this one? Classic that they made a Super League after LeBron started to get into ownership in Liverpool. That's pretty good.

Speaker 6 I do like the fact, though, that Americans based on the USA.

Speaker 3 Wait, wait, you win European soccer.

Speaker 11 Considering we don't really talk soccer on this show.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, so the Super League was started.

Speaker 3 There's a brand new league. Usually talking soccer is like, okay, let's talk soccer.

Speaker 6 Everyone out there knows about the Super League. Hey, it's the biggest news in the entire world right now.

Speaker 6 The Europeans started a brand new league that's exactly like the UEFA Champions League, except better and Superer.

Speaker 3 What more do you need than it's called the Super League? You should be in on the name alone. Who's making it? Who are you? Okay, all right.
Here's how it is. All right, I'll give you the quick.

Speaker 3 So, so, all right, let's also just clear something.

Speaker 3 We are going to have some fun with this.

Speaker 6 Hank's very mad about this. We're going to have

Speaker 3 a soccer fan. I'm just ruining through.
All right, so we're going to have some fun with the Super League. Now, all right, let's put on our real hats for a second.
The Super League is a terrible idea.

Speaker 3 Here's exactly what's going to happen: the richest teams in, as of right now, I think it's Italy, Spain, and and England. So France, PSG has not joined, and neither has the best teams in Germany.

Speaker 3 So right now it is 12 different teams, the richest teams in the world, are going to create a league where they're basically doing away with the Champions League.

Speaker 3 The Champions League is a great tournament where it's, you know, qualifiers where, you know, for England, it's the top four go.

Speaker 3 It's different for each country, but it's a big tournament in all of Europe for the best team. Now, these teams are basically like,

Speaker 3 why would we share money with everyone when we can make a super league and we get to keep all the money and it's all the rich teams and it will therefore basically destroy every club soccer team below them in all of these countries.

Speaker 3 It's terrible for the game of soccer.

Speaker 3 It's going to ruin the game of soccer, but in terms of a troll factor, it was made for this show specifically to talk about how American innovation has finally come to soccer and now we have a super league.

Speaker 3 hell yeah.

Speaker 6 Listen, if you wanted to be against the formation of a Super League, then you should have called your league the Super League to begin with. Totally agree.

Speaker 6 You left yourself wide open to getting cut by that. The Super Bowl is called the Super Bowl.
There's no game that can be adopted by the NFL that could come in except the Pro Bowl, which is amazing.

Speaker 3 Pro Bowl, but that's not, that's business. It's business.
Super Bowl is everything.

Speaker 6 It's everything. So you should have named your league the Super League to prevent that.
ahead of time.

Speaker 6 Now, I think it's very funny that you can trace this back to Americans ruining European soccer because it's like the Glazers that really wanted to push on this. And I think John Henry, right?

Speaker 3 Yeah, probably.

Speaker 6 So, yes, this is a great way for Americans to just remind everybody that if you give us enough money and put us in any global situation, we will fuck up your personal lives.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we'll make it America, which is just super.

Speaker 6 I do think that the governments of these countries

Speaker 6 might just be doing it to create more confusion around the tax laws so that they can create more revenue because you know that every single like super millionaire soccer player in the super league playing all these games in different countries, they're not going to be paying the right taxes.

Speaker 6 And there's nothing more than governments love in Europe than just like boning the highest profile superstars with like $20 million tax bills.

Speaker 3 Hank, question.

Speaker 11 You mentioned the Champions League. You didn't say anything about the Premier League.

Speaker 3 What's the Premier League factor in this? Yes, so the Premier League is what would get ruined.

Speaker 3 And the same thing in Spain and Italy, Serie A and La Liga. So essentially,

Speaker 3 soccer is actually kind of fucking sweet how it's set up right now, where the little guys can,

Speaker 3 quote unquote, compete. You get a

Speaker 3 Leicester City situation, right? But you have a league where it's 20 teams, and then there's relegation. Essentially, this is all happening because the money from the Champions League isn't locked in.

Speaker 3 You have to qualify every year. So if you are, for instance, Arsenal, who will have troops on the show, they are not going to qualify.

Speaker 3 Well, unless they, now this is getting confusing because they could still win the Europa League, but they're like in the middle of the table this year, right?

Speaker 3 So they might not qualify for the Champions League. They might not qualify to get all that extra money being in the Champions League.
So they're essentially saying, let's cut out the middleman.

Speaker 3 Let's not deal with qualifications. Let's just make the Super League and we will all just be super there and get all the fucking money.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so it doesn't really,

Speaker 6 it kind of removes the whole threat of relegation. Right.
Because when you have the richest teams already locked into the Super League, they're not going anywhere because they're the biggest brands.

Speaker 6 They generate the most money. So it doesn't matter how good the teams are.

Speaker 6 For instance, West Ham is better than Arsenal this year.

Speaker 6 But still, if you're the top of the EPL table, you're not going to get into the Super League because those spots are already set in stone amongst the highest profile teams, which will then generate more money and then get better and better and better as, in theory, the rest of the team will get worse and worse and worse.

Speaker 6 Generally speaking, I'm in favor of any European conglomeration that doesn't involve the Germans. I feel like it's very funny that they left the Bundesliga.

Speaker 3 They're going to be involved. So the theory is there's teams that are going to, the best teams in Germany and France.
All right, so there's a couple of things actually floating around.

Speaker 3 One is that this is all just a bargaining chip to change how teams get into the Champions League so that those rich teams can

Speaker 3 lock in the profit. And it also is a short-sighted thing where, hey, they lost money during coronavirus and the pandemic.
So let's just make all this money back.

Speaker 3 I think I read read that it was like $400 million instantly to every team for being in the Super League. That's how fucking super it is.

Speaker 3 Like that, again, not trying to tell people what to think, but $400 million just for being in the Super League. That's fucking super.

Speaker 3 I don't think it will happen. I don't think it's going to happen, but.
It does suck if it does happen. It's happening.
Well, they've announced it. It's happening.

Speaker 3 So now there's, but, but there's basically, this is how fucked soccer is. UEFA and FIFA can like counteract with this.

Speaker 3 I was reading something that FIFA could essentially say if you play in the Super League, you can't play in the World Cup.

Speaker 3 So guys who want to play for their country in the World Cup wouldn't play in the Super League.

Speaker 6 I don't see that actually happening.

Speaker 3 I think it's going to be an all-time

Speaker 3 politicking that we don't fully understand

Speaker 3 that we can just sit on the sideline and troll about.

Speaker 6 That's just FIFA trying to keep Christian Pusilich off the national team and prevent America from winning a fucking World Cup. Is Christian Pusilic the face of the Super League?

Speaker 3 Well, Chelsea's one of the teams.

Speaker 6 Many people are asking.

Speaker 6 But I think that, so, Hank, to kind of equalize it to American football, it would be like, this isn't a perfect correlation, but if the Dallas Cowboys got into the playoffs every year just because they're the Dallas Cowboys and they're the biggest brand in the NFL, regardless of how good they are, that's kind of what this is like.

Speaker 3 I think the best correlation would be baseball because there's no real salary cap.

Speaker 3 So it would basically be saying the top six teams in baseball, let's just say the Dodgers, the Yankees, the Mets, the Cubs, in terms of just salary, right?

Speaker 3 Like I'm not talking about how good they are. The Red Sox and I don't know, whoever else is like top in the league in salary.
Basically say we're starting our own league and

Speaker 3 Houston and they're just completely separate from everyone else and they start their own league where they all make a shitload of money and they get their product on TV all the time and then everyone else sucks.

Speaker 3 What they don't realize is, like, if you made that league, someone's got to be the bottom of the league.

Speaker 3 So that's the funniest part about the Super League is like Arsenal is going to join and Arsenal is going to be the worst team in the league.

Speaker 3 So they're going to get their shit kicked out of them, but they'll be in the Super League.

Speaker 6 So like with Tottenham, they let Tottenham in, despite the fact that Tottenham hasn't won an EPL title since like 1961.

Speaker 6 So it's like, it would be like if they made a super money of football and they're like, we're going to include the Jets because they've got a big market.

Speaker 3 Yeah, or the Cowboys who haven't won in forever, but they have the most money. Either way, we probably got a lot of this wrong.
It's just.

Speaker 3 most of it also i didn't want to correct you in time but you mispronounced it it's leechester city leechester city sorry so leechester city so super league we'll talk to troops about it who will give us a little more insight into how terrible of an idea it is again when will we know whether or not this is happening i think it's 2023 was the proposed start um a lot can happen in in two years yeah a lot a lot can happen here's here's the thing though i wait the way it was the the uh thing was announced and it was like games will resume when it when we can, I thought it was going to be like a month.

Speaker 3 The Super League's a

Speaker 3 very terrible idea in terms of the sport of soccer and all these other teams that are going to get fucked with it. But again, it is a gold mine for trolls like us because this is you.

Speaker 3 It's essentially just Americans saying we know how to make sports better and taking a sport that's been around forever and all the traditions and all the funny, quirky things with like, you know, the different levels in England soccer and being like, no, fuck all that.

Speaker 3 Let's just make it like the NFL and we'll all get to keep our TV money and it will be sick because it's the Super League. So in that respect, we're in on the Super League.

Speaker 6 It's also just a very cool name.

Speaker 3 Hey, what Super League team should we choose to be our team?

Speaker 6 I'm saying, like, you can have now an EPL team and a Super League team.

Speaker 3 Wrong. We're all, I'm saying we're in the league, right? Because Rob Lowe's going to win.
We're Rob Lowe's.

Speaker 3 There is no teams. You just root for the Super League.

Speaker 11 The relegated team that you own will now be back in the Premier League. Because they kicked out so many of the good teams.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I want to say it right now. I was asked to join the Super League as owner of Swansea.
I said no.

Speaker 6 Man of the people.

Speaker 3 Yeah, there it is. Quote that.
Put that out there.

Speaker 3 No, I actually don't, because then there's like a section of Swansea fans that think I actually have any say in the future.

Speaker 6 Just say it was your idea. Yeah.
The entire Super League was your idea.

Speaker 3 As owner of Swansea, I think

Speaker 3 it was a little killed.

Speaker 6 So here's the thing, where it gets like a little bit serious, because obviously you're right.

Speaker 6 It's a bad idea. Bad idea.
And it's going to fuck over all of European soccer. It's going to make this sport completely different.

Speaker 6 But it'd be very funny if they did change the rules to make it more like American football.

Speaker 6 If goals were worth more points, if you could have one guy who was in charge, like he could actually pick up the ball who wasn't the goalkeeper. You get two points if you win an away game.

Speaker 3 Two points if you win. Yeah, I'm just hoping that they make VAR more part of the game in the Super League.
Because as soccer fans, that's what we like the most.

Speaker 6 Oh, I can't wait for the takes of like,

Speaker 3 this is globalism. I've reviewed the documents.

Speaker 6 George Soros is busting in fans to the game.

Speaker 3 It's going to be fucking sick, dude. Super League.

Speaker 3 You know what they should do?

Speaker 6 They should have one floating spot in the Super League that's reserved for the FIFA player of the year.

Speaker 6 So, like, even if Messi wasn't on one of these teams, then his team would automatically get in every year.

Speaker 3 Yes, I'm just,

Speaker 3 It's just so funny to be like, this is a really stupid idea. No one should be in on the Super League.
It's going to ruin soccer.

Speaker 3 But then having the other side of my brain be like, but it's the Super League.

Speaker 6 Also, games should be played. at like 7 p.m.
American time. And more commercials.

Speaker 3 More commercials.

Speaker 6 Way more commercials. Commercial breaks during the breaks.

Speaker 3 Every 15 minutes of commercial breaks.

Speaker 6 You should have a dancing robot that wears soccer equipment that just appears on the field out of nowhere.

Speaker 3 Imagine if they did a commercial after after the kickoff. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Paused it. Yeah.
It's like the little pass. No, pause commercial.
I'm in for it. Super league is a blank canvas.
We Americans can make it whatever we want. It's our league.
It is our sport.

Speaker 3 As everyone knows. It's truly the Americans.
All right. What else we got going on in sports?

Speaker 6 Yeah,

Speaker 6 there was a big fight. Oh, yeah.
Fight on Saturday night. God damn, was it bad? What a great two hours of television that was, though.

Speaker 3 Well, between the concerts.

Speaker 6 Yes, because

Speaker 3 you only tuned in for two hours.

Speaker 6 I tuned in for two hours of it. So I didn't, I actually didn't get to see Oscar De La Joya being the in real life I love cocaine bear.
But dude, he was his face.

Speaker 6 I don't, a lot of people are saying like Oscar De La Hoya looks like he's had a lot of plastic surgery done. I think his face is just so swollen from the drugs that it has made his skin tighter.

Speaker 6 Right. His face looked like the mom, like Stiffler's mom in American Pie.

Speaker 3 So essentially what happened was it was a broadcast that everyone, you know, when someone leaves ESPN and they're like, hey, now I can really take off the guardrails here.

Speaker 3 Like, we can say whatever we want. They were able to swear on this broadcast and also like talk about weed and all this stuff.
And then they just did it so much that it was horrendous to listen to.

Speaker 3 They were talking about Snoop Dogg smoked a blunt. Crazy, I know.

Speaker 3 And they couldn't stop talking about it for like three hours straight. Oscar De La Hoya got on there, said fucking a million times, kept on saying baby, and it was just weird and terrible.
And then

Speaker 3 the fight just like it took forever to get to.

Speaker 6 I disagree that it was terrible with Snoop Dogg because Snoop Dogg, I could listen to him recite anything. He could read the phone book and it would sound amazing.

Speaker 6 Snoop Dogg is probably the coolest person in America. Just everything that comes out of his mouth happens to rhyme with the last thing that he said.
And then

Speaker 6 he's like drinking Hinnessey or whatever. It's like

Speaker 3 private liquor was

Speaker 3 Snoop Dogg.

Speaker 6 I almost felt like the rest of the panel was beneath Snoop Dogg.

Speaker 3 Correct.

Speaker 6 No, no, you could put Snoop Dogg on the Red Zone channel and I would watch it. You could put Snoop Dogg doing anything and I would watch it.
No.

Speaker 6 The rest of the guys, they had a major case of, I'm sitting next to Snoop Dogg. I hope Snoop Dogg thinks that I'm cool.

Speaker 3 No, it wasn't Snoop Dogg. It was after Snoop Dogg was around and smoking, Ray Flores kept on being like, you guys still high from that Snoop Dogg blunt and kept on mentioning it.

Speaker 3 And like, it was uncomfortable.

Speaker 3 It was very clear that some people on the announcing staff were just there to catch a paycheck and were halfway through were like, what is my, like, Mario Lopez, I think it halfway through is like, I, why did I do this?

Speaker 3 Like, I'm AC Slater.

Speaker 6 Mario Lopez is the king of guys that just shows up doing stuff on TV. I've seen Mario Lopez.
He does like America's funniest videos. I've seen him on a bunch of...
like infotainment commercials.

Speaker 6 I saw him one time I checked into a hotel and you turned on the TV and he was like, hi, I'm Mario Lopez here for Marriott. Let me tell you about the features of your room.

Speaker 6 That dude just, the entire night was just a series of people collecting checks. Yes.

Speaker 6 You just got to see people get a little bit, you got to see rich people get a little bit richer in real time over the course of the night.

Speaker 3 Including ben askren who people say was taking a dive and we have thank god we have an expert here on on our show who may or may not be uh drunk but billy i'm not did you think that ben askron took a dive honestly when i saw him and he was so fat he had the love handles for the weigh-in i was like that guy's not in fighting shape yep like he's not there to fight but he got a lot of money got a lot of money he got less money than fucking jose did and yeah wow and jake paul uh the paul brothers can't be stopped Like this is, they got a bunch of people to, it was essentially Fire Fest of a boxing match, right?

Speaker 3 Like we all tuned in and we saw 30 seconds and then a million

Speaker 3 concerts that no one really wanted to see. And the fight didn't happen to all of you.
I'm a believer.

Speaker 6 I'm a believer now.

Speaker 3 That was a good concern. Again, you watched for like the last hour and a half.
The first five hours was just mindless and not like it was terrible.

Speaker 6 I could tell you, Big Cat, like that's kind of on you for choosing to watch the like six undercards of a Jake Paul fight.

Speaker 3 Well, no, I had it on, and it was, like, I wasn't even, I didn't even have it on the sound for a while. It just kept on going.
Yeah. Where it was, like, there are no fights.

Speaker 3 Oh, there's a fight for two seconds. Oh, then there's just, like, an hour and a half of no fights.

Speaker 6 I had no interest until, like, the very end. So I wasn't, like, rushing to my TV to see the fights that were going on at, like, 9 p.m.
But, Billy, in your estimation, did he or did he not take a dive?

Speaker 8 I mean, he gets to the point. I don't think he, I think he thought the whole thing was a sham the second he walked into the ring, like even before when he was training.

Speaker 8 So Ben Askream just went in there and was like, This is a joke. I'm going to treat it like a joke, and just took his paycheck.

Speaker 6 He got hit pretty hard, though.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 8 But, like, there's, I've seen Ben Askreen get his face pounded in on the mat in the UFC.

Speaker 3 Like, right?

Speaker 8 He just played it all.

Speaker 6 He still got hit really hard, though. Like, you can watch that punch, and the punch was a solid shot.

Speaker 6 Many people were saying it was a harder shot than Jose took.

Speaker 3 Way harder. That honestly.
Either way, the Paul Brothers are going to just, for some reason, they're just going to end up becoming like...

Speaker 3 So i'm not a paul brothers fan but i respect the fact that they have become like somehow real boxers and they're just going to and

Speaker 3 no no they're paying they're doing pay-per-views for fucking dude if i got insane money he's five seven what jake paul's five seven if i got into a ring with him i'd literally kill him i think he would i think he would actually murder you're a real boxer no no i'm not i'm far from a real boxer but i dude i the guys i train with i go to the gym and they say that they would beat the out of jake paul like these are gold i think he's a real mascara was confirmed no no no these are 17 year old gold glove boxers and they're like this guy's a joke everyone says you're really doing okay yeah but none of them want to actually fight that's the difference really hold on I'm not saying he's a real boxer in the fact that he's going to be challenging for the heavy or whatever middleweight title of the world.

Speaker 3 I'm saying that they have found a way to get paid real, significant dollars as professional boxers. Whether you want to to say that that's bullshit or not, I don't care.

Speaker 3 They have literally invented like an audience for them boxing random people, and you at least have to tip your hat to it.

Speaker 8 They've recreated WWE.

Speaker 6 In a way, they made their own Super League.

Speaker 3 Yeah, they've re what they did. Super League wrestling.

Speaker 6 They figured out a way to

Speaker 6 monetize beating the shit out of people that can't beat them up. And so, I mean, credit to them for being able to do it.
Right.

Speaker 6 He's not a bad boxer. You can't watch him fight and be like, like, that guy sucks.
He's a good boxer, and I really do hope that he fights you.

Speaker 6 I think that there's a good chance because I was reviewing your slideshow presentation, Billy, last night, and I think you make a lot of outstanding points about how you would get under his skin really badly.

Speaker 6 And I think that you could probably goat him into a fight. But I think in the general public's eyes,

Speaker 6 fighting you might be a step back for him right now.

Speaker 8 Well, the thing is, like, I'm just... bad enough of a boxer that he'd take the fight because he's like oh this guy looks big but he's not that good of a boxer.

Speaker 8 So he's like, I might beat him. He's as big as you are.

Speaker 3 What about the fact that

Speaker 3 he fought an NBA player?

Speaker 8 He fought an MMA champion. All of them are under 5'6.

Speaker 3 You have no clout. That's

Speaker 3 also getting back to that point.

Speaker 3 No one wants to mention that part.

Speaker 8 I have no clout, but I would love to fucking say him to him.

Speaker 3 Do you see his mentions? It's a million people saying, fight me next.

Speaker 3 True. And where were you? Where were you? No, last night in his mentions.
He should have been there. No, I'm just saying.

Speaker 8 No, I know, I know.

Speaker 3 People are there.

Speaker 6 You got to make the app, the fight Paul app. Yeah.

Speaker 11 It just left me wanting more, you know, more fighting with like funny commentary and like, you know, just

Speaker 3 better action. Interesting.
With maybe a way to bet on it on playbarstool.com.

Speaker 3 What do you mean? Oh, yeah. We have Rough and Rowdy Friday night.
There won't be a million concerts. It will just be wall-to-wall action.
20 knockouts. Do you see Vito Torpedoes fighting?

Speaker 3 Who's maybe the greatest.

Speaker 3 I don't even know how to describe him. He would be the fuck out of Jake.
He's like 400 pounds.

Speaker 11 He's like weaponized Frank the Tank.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he just takes punches. He eats punches for a living.
So rough and rowdy, Friday night, buyrnr.com, and do it on the Play Barstool app.

Speaker 6 Billy, final question. Was Jake Paul in war mode?

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 3 He had a fucking robot. That was sick.
That was awesome.

Speaker 3 The robot was the coolest part. Like, that's the other thing.
As much as you want, I know the inclination. Ready for this, Jake?

Speaker 3 The inclination is to hate on these guys, but then they bring out like robots and stuff, and it's sweet as fuck. How you like that, Jake?

Speaker 3 I love it. There we go.

Speaker 8 They automated their hype, man.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 6 And it was amazing. Bullshit.
Or do you hate? You don't like the robot?

Speaker 3 Yeah. Jake,

Speaker 3 would you take a job calling a Paul Fight? That'd be fun, yeah.

Speaker 3 Snoop Dogg was smoking a lot of wheat. Yeah, what if Snoop Dogg heard that? That's another sport for the resume.
Okay, but Snoop Dogg was smoking a lot of wheat. Okay.

Speaker 3 amongst everyone it kind of reminded me of a triple-s broadcast just a lot you can say whatever you want it was chaos but what if what if snoop dog five man book what if snoop dog was next to you and he hands you a joint and he's like here you go cousin are you gonna smoke it no cousin i already i what i already uh

Speaker 3 broke a big no no taking a sip of pink whitney with uh

Speaker 6 here you go cousin no no because snoop dog does the thing where he'll just like drop like a relative's title out of nowhere And he just brings it up and it's always, he'll be like, what's up, huz?

Speaker 6 He'll be like, what's up, Steph Buzz?

Speaker 3 No, I know.

Speaker 6 Dude, he will say cousin all day.

Speaker 3 Yeah. But I would not take the hit.
I'm not going to Snoop Dogg over here.

Speaker 6 I would not take the hit, but I would take the broadcast.

Speaker 3 Okay, there we go.

Speaker 3 All right. What else we got? Oh, the other thing I wanted to mention from this weekend.
I think that we're in the specific zone now where we don't respect Steph Curry enough.

Speaker 3 I think we're back on,

Speaker 3 you know, the Warriors were so hated. He gets injured.
I think we're now in Steph Curry is

Speaker 3 like unless unlocked, though. Yeah, yeah, no, but he's been on an insane tear.
I'm not even talking about on Saturday night. I'm talking about like his last, I think he, what has he hit?

Speaker 3 Was it like 45 threes in the last week or something? Or no, maybe it's not that many. It's an insane amount.

Speaker 6 When I saw the stats of how he became the Warriors' all-time leading scorer, but then they had to compare him next to Wilt Chamberlain. Yeah.

Speaker 6 It was like Wilt did it in literally like half the games that Steph Curry did.

Speaker 6 I do think that we're reaching the point where we're ready to build Steph Curry back up after hating him for a while for being on a super team through no fault of his own, really.

Speaker 6 Sorry that he was so good that people wanted to join the Warriors.

Speaker 6 But now that they've had a couple years down, now it's like, oh, Steph Curry redemption tour, despite the fact that he's never really been bad at basketball.

Speaker 3 No, right.

Speaker 6 He hasn't had like down years. When he plays, he's always been a top three player in the entire league.

Speaker 3 And we're at the zone where it's like, hey, maybe we should just remember the fact that we're watching literally the greatest shooter of all time play basketball so we should just enjoy that and be like holy shit steph curry is awesome all the time so he's in that that camp now 44 threes in five games 44 threes in five games i also saw the stat that steph curry could go oh for 500 in his next 500 three-point attempts and then retire and he would still be ahead of ray allen he should do that And then he could go 0 for 600 in his next 600 and he would still be in retire and he'd still be ahead of Reggie Miller.

Speaker 6 That's insane. That is nuts.
It's fucking insane.

Speaker 3 He is that much better of a shooter than everyone else in the history of basketball. It's like, it's actually mind-boggling that we don't respect him enough.
So I'm going to write that down, Jake.

Speaker 3 We've got to respect Steph Curry more often and just... A date or just random? No, I think it's more of a...
In general. Yeah, it's like, God, it's just everywhere.

Speaker 6 You're reminded of his presence frequently.

Speaker 6 But I'm still going to blame him for ruining basketball at the collegiate level. Sure.
And the AAU level.

Speaker 3 Sure. true.

Speaker 6 He's a net negative on the game.

Speaker 3 You can do whatever you want. He's still great.
Right. I'm just going to start appreciating him more in general.
Also, Ball is life guy.

Speaker 6 Big time shout out to Zion for just knowing exactly what he was doing when he was taking that press conference today. And somebody asked him how he felt about playing in New York.

Speaker 6 And he put the smirk on his face immediately. And he was like, I know exactly what I'm about to do.
He goes, thank you for asking me that question.

Speaker 6 Then went on for about like a minute and a half talking about how New York City is his favorite place in the world to play basketball.

Speaker 6 And then threw in at the end, like, besides New Orleans, obviously, and then went back to sucking the mecha's dick and being like, I love Madison Square Garden, it is the best place in the world.

Speaker 6 I think, I mean, he's got to become a Knick now, right?

Speaker 3 He just wants to play with RJ Barrett, too, his friend. So, there's the, you know, and we get

Speaker 3 the Knicks, the Knicks.

Speaker 11 It's also more in the Pelicans' front office is like a disaster. I think he's just trying to, you know,

Speaker 6 stir the pot.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah.
The Knicks Twitter, too.

Speaker 3 I'm enjoying it right now, but that's a classic case of if the Knicks ever get really good, people will hate the Knicks so goddamn much because they're kind of the darling right now because it's been so long.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but you forget how many

Speaker 3 people you follow and people in media are Knicks fans until the Knicks start getting good again. You're like, oh shit.

Speaker 6 Right, they're harmless right now. So when they do something average, you're like, that's cute.

Speaker 3 And you give them a little pat on the head.

Speaker 6 But yeah, if the Knicks ever become a juggernaut, no, I'm out. I'm out of the Knicks.

Speaker 3 And Tibbs is an insane coach. He's just, I mean, his coaching, he's just fucking awesome.

Speaker 3 Their roster is not that good.

Speaker 3 He's that good of a coach.

Speaker 6 You know what the Knicks should do preemptively? If they do plan on getting really, really good to kind of get ahead of all the people that will be hating them, they should just sign Boban.

Speaker 6 Because you can't hate a team that has Boban on it. That's true.

Speaker 3 That's a fact. Or Lou Dort.
Yeah,

Speaker 6 yeah. You could be booing the Knicks.
They could be going for their fifth championship. If you put Boban in the game and he starts dunking without jumping, everyone's going to love that.
Yes.

Speaker 3 I love Lou Dort so much. He had such a Lou Dort night tonight where he went, he had 21 points in the first quarter, five for five from three, and then finished the half with 22 points.

Speaker 3 That's just, that's what he does. It's dort ball.

Speaker 3 It'll just, all of a sudden you'll be like, Lou Dort is on 80-point watch, and you'll tune in, and he'll have like 23 points 11 minutes into the game, and then he'll end up with 32. Lube up?

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's fun. Dude, the Dorture Chamber.
Get in or get out. Yeah, he's got 27 points right now, and there's a minute and a half left in the fourth.
at 21 in the first quarter.

Speaker 3 Lou Dort is just he did when he gets fired, there's nothing more fun.

Speaker 6 It's also just fun to say Dort.

Speaker 3 Yeah, of course. It's the Dorture Chamber, the Dortula.

Speaker 6 The Dortula.

Speaker 3 Yeah, the Dortula. He's taking it over.

Speaker 3 Oh, there's a Dort Hog meme where he's like, he looks like a Warthog, the vehicle.

Speaker 6 It's fucking sick. Dort Minor?

Speaker 3 Yeah, dude, there's so many Dorts.

Speaker 3 I love Lou Dort. And just, yeah, the LU is also the best.

Speaker 6 Dort license plates. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Lou Dort. Yes, exactly.

Speaker 3 All right. Let's get to who's back.

Speaker 3 And then we have Daniel Jeremiah coming up. Great draft talk with him.
And kind of speed you up on the draft, which is coming up in a week and a half. And then we have troops on.

Speaker 3 Very emotional with troops.

Speaker 3 After talking to troops, I think we are probably going to disavow the Super League as trolls. We're going to have to change our tune.

Speaker 3 We actually taped troops in the middle of of before the start of the show and right now. So

Speaker 3 we're out on the Super League. I still

Speaker 3 like the name.

Speaker 3 I'm so confused. Time traveling.

Speaker 6 I like the name Super League. I'm not going back on that.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 We're in on that.

Speaker 6 We stand by the fact that it is a good name for you. Yeah.

Speaker 3 All right, we'll just listen to troops. It was awesome.

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Speaker 3 Okay, Henry.

Speaker 3 My who's back in the week.

Speaker 11 Our queen, the mayor of Twitter, Chrissy Teigen. Yes.

Speaker 3 Returned after like a six-day

Speaker 11 retirement.

Speaker 3 So it was 20, 23 days.

Speaker 11 March 24th, this was one of the most emotional goodbyes I've ever seen. For over 10 years, you you guys have been my world.
I honestly owe you so much to this world we have created here.

Speaker 11 I truly consider so many of you my actual friends, but it's time for me to say goodbye.

Speaker 11 This no longer serves me as positively as it serves me negatively, and I think that's the right time to call something.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 11 And then on April 16th, so less than a month later, she said, turns out it feels, all caps, terrible to silence yourself and also no longer enjoy belly chuckles randomly throughout the day and also lose like 2,000 friends at once.

Speaker 11 LOL.

Speaker 3 So she's back.

Speaker 3 Well, translation, I am a narcissist and I'm addicted to this hellhole of a website because I like other people to like me, which is okay, but it's not okay because you did a whole grandstand of your retirement, which was utterly ridiculous.

Speaker 3 And that part is just, we should be able to laugh at that.

Speaker 3 I got caught up in Chrissy Teigen mentions because I was tweeting about it when she came back, and I was like, I don't know, like, the third or fourth tweet when you hit the trending, and the Chrissy Teigen

Speaker 3 stands. Teigenites? The Teigenites.
I don't know what you call them. I had one here.
I'll do a quick reading of it.

Speaker 3 Olivia said, yes, it's people like you who criticize people like Chrissy who are clearly jealous of her. If your life was full of love and happiness, you'd never think ugly thoughts.

Speaker 3 That ugliness lives inside you until you decide to let it go. Chrissy will be fine.
I hope you will be too.

Speaker 6 I'm glad that there are people out there that are defending Chrissy on this one. It's funny how it did last for 23 days, and we knew that she was coming back.
She's addicted to this life.

Speaker 6 What Chrissy should have done is she should have started a burner account.

Speaker 6 She should have just gone with at not Chrissy Teigen and then infiltrated all the trolls that always go at her and accuse her to be a pedophile.

Speaker 6 And it actually would have been very funny if Chrissy Teigen had become like so deep into the world of a burner account, getting mad at Chrissy Teigen, that she actually started to hate online Chrissy Teigen from her burner account.

Speaker 6 And then she bought into the fact that when she was watching Toddlers and Tiaras, she was engaged in sex trafficking.

Speaker 6 That would have been the ultimate internet story.

Speaker 3 She also could have just stopped using twitter for a weekend just detoxed from twitter just instead of saying a big announcement hey look at me i'm off this website i'm i'm an if you here's just a simple rule in life if you announce that you are retiring from twitter you're probably a fucking asshole who will be back on twitter in due time so my twitter was broken this weekend and i was kind of hoping it never came back it is i couldn't see anything on Saturday or Friday.

Speaker 3 It is kind of welcome. That is all drunk.

Speaker 6 When that happens and you're like, wait, what if it just stayed like this?

Speaker 6 Would my life be better yeah the answer is probably yes oh yeah twitter was broken chrissy it's it's so like refreshing though that someone who's probably she's probably close to a billionaire or i don't think so half a million dollars

Speaker 6 someone who's super rich a supermodel think about the rice yeah she's talking about the rice greens billion is a lot still misses logging on to maybe the world's worst website and getting roasted every day superstars are not that different from you and i so welcome back chrissy she's like the kd of celebrities although not without i guess not without the skill

Speaker 6 How is she like KD?

Speaker 6 She's addicted to Twitter.

Speaker 3 Yes, social media. Yes, she's a loser, just like, remember I said this last week, how everyone online is a loser, whether you're on Facebook, Reddit, Twitter, Instagram, everyone has their subsection.

Speaker 3 Everyone looks at the other subsection.

Speaker 6 Jeremy Renner's website.

Speaker 3 Could you imagine tweeting all day as you angrily yell at someone on Reddit or Facebook? We're all losers. So once you admit that and accept it, you can just be a loser and live your life.

Speaker 3 That was Chrissy's biggest thing she she thought she could go legit she thought she could be not a loser anymore and be like oh i'm gonna leave you

Speaker 3 cretins over on twitter and i'm gonna go live my wonderful life uh-uh we pulled you back in you can't leave we got you we got a claws in you you're a fucking loser like us It is just amazing, though, that at the end of the day, you could have all the money in the world.

Speaker 6 You could have true love like her and John Legend have, and they'll never, ever break up, ever. They're the perfect couple.
Their goals.

Speaker 6 Their goals.

Speaker 6 But at the end of the day, you still want to get like a blue notification on your phone reminding you that like a celebrity has retweeted you yeah you want the likes and the and people to to to reply with the lols and people like team chrissy and this is great there's also the diet version of doing what chrissy did which is making a big announcement that you have deleted the app from your phone right that way you don't have to actually delete your account you can still have it on your desktop or on your ipad or on anything else but if you just like make a big grandstanding statement about i have deleted the twitter app from my phone right you get to have that moment where you're like, look at me, I'm doing something powerful, but you still get to stay logged on and online.

Speaker 3 Right, exactly. So it's good to have the mayor of Twitter back.
Welcome back, Christy.

Speaker 6 My who's back of the week is Cicadas.

Speaker 6 Cicadas are back big time.

Speaker 3 Oh, Cicero.

Speaker 6 This is the part of the podcast where Billy pretends like that was going to be his.

Speaker 3 Brood X.

Speaker 6 Brood X. So the Cicadas are back.
The 17-year Cicadas, if you don't remember the last time the Cicadas were around, they're about to change.

Speaker 6 They're about to turn the entire fucking world on its head for about two months.

Speaker 6 Basically, there are going to be millions and millions of slow-moving, loud insects that just ruin everything in every East Coast city and in the Midwest.

Speaker 6 I don't know exactly where the location, how far west they go, but I do know that you're going to get a lot of cicada content coming up.

Speaker 6 You're going to get people that start doing, there'll be TikTokers that are like, here's how you cook cicadas, because apparently cicadas are delicious if you want to eat a flying vuvazalo with wings, which is what they actually sound like.

Speaker 6 So they're going to ruin the outdoors. Yep.
They're going to ruin, there's probably going to be a cicada delay in the world game at some point this season.

Speaker 6 But I'm very excited for the influx of cicada content to hit the internet. For the first time, really, since we've had this internet, we're going to get just a deluge of blogs about cicadas.

Speaker 3 I just love that there's different broods.

Speaker 3 Like Brood X is coming, but I saw like Brood 8 is still three years away.

Speaker 8 2004 is the last time we had a brood this big.

Speaker 3 It's going to be insane. Damn,

Speaker 6 keep an eye on your pets out there, too, because they're delicious. Dogs love eating them because they're slow and they fly like really close to the ground.
And they all die.

Speaker 6 And so your dog's going to try to eat a lot of them.

Speaker 6 They'll block your dog up real bad. Your dog won't be able to shit if it eats too much cicadas.

Speaker 3 Cicas are gross. Cabilly is so gross.

Speaker 6 Keep an eye on that. Don't let Whitey be going to munch town on these cicadas.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 That's a good.

Speaker 3 Cicadas are the worst. It really is a plague.

Speaker 8 I'm kind of excited.

Speaker 3 Well, yeah. We know you are.

Speaker 8 Because think about it.

Speaker 3 More animals to fuck.

Speaker 8 No, no, no. It's just like

Speaker 8 sometimes you know new shit happens it's fun yeah you are oh you are young enough that you you don't even remember cicadas like i was five last time

Speaker 3 yeah you're gonna be sick of the cicadas in about two weeks yes i will but it'll be fun when it first shows up like a snow day yeah like a snow day um all right my who's back of the week is billy is back and the yankees are back the yankees suck bill you were at the stadium on saturday how'd it go

Speaker 8 i i had to leave early oh why's that

Speaker 6 Were you asked to leave early, Bill?

Speaker 3 Yes. Okay.

Speaker 8 I was with a large group of people.

Speaker 8 So basically, so if you go to MLB stadium.

Speaker 3 We've never actually been to a game with friends, so explain it.

Speaker 8 Right, right. No, but if you go to an MLB stadium during COVID, they tape off some of the seats

Speaker 3 because of social distancing.

Speaker 8 So some of my friends basically

Speaker 8 uncut the tape because we all arrived as a group and we're sitting in the wrong seats and then they like kicked us all out.

Speaker 8 Okay, so you decided to break safety protocols, yeah, but like they made us all give tests, and everyone was basically vaccinated.

Speaker 3 So, like, you know, everyone was basically vaccinated. I think that's a scientific phrase for it.
Everyone was basically vaccinated.

Speaker 8 To get into the game, you need a negative test or a vaccination.

Speaker 6 Or you had to, like, fake a vaccine or fake a photo shot.

Speaker 3 Negative tests. If you're just basically vaccinated.
I'm pretty much. We need a couple of vaccs in the group.

Speaker 3 Here's what's covered in basically... All my homies are vaxxed.
Here's what's covered in basically vaccinated.

Speaker 3 It's people who are vaccinated, people who've had one of two shots, people who are thinking about getting vaccinations, people who have made their vaccination appointment, but haven't gotten it yet.

Speaker 3 Think people who...

Speaker 3 Antibodies. Yeah, antibodies.
People who are not going to get a vaccination, but are not anti-vaxing. Oh, they're not spreading anti-vaxx stuff.
That's basically vaccinated as well.

Speaker 6 People who are healthy, but they swear they're not going to go visit elderly relatives anytime soon. Yep.

Speaker 3 Yep. People who, yeah, yeah, yeah.
People who are healthy, unvaccinated, but they're like, all I'm going to do is go to the bar and maybe a couple restaurants. But that's it.

Speaker 3 That's basically vaccinated.

Speaker 6 If you go with a group of people and you're like, listen, we've all been hanging out just us together

Speaker 3 for the last year. This is our pod.

Speaker 6 This is our bubble. We're going to the game in unison.
You're safe, I swear.

Speaker 3 Basically vaccinated. No, we'll wait.

Speaker 6 Or if your dad's a lawyer. Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 3 You're basically vaccinated. No, the real problem is that you're definitely basically vaccinated your dad's.

Speaker 8 Half my buddies were Red Sox fans, and they were all chirping Brett.

Speaker 3 Basically vaccinated? Yeah, basically vaccinated.

Speaker 8 They're all chirping Brett Gardner and saying heinous shit. And that's probably heinous shit to that.
I'm a Yankees fan, but they're saying heinous shit to Brett Gardner.

Speaker 3 Wow, you let that happen at the Bronx Zoo, dude? Dude.

Speaker 8 Brett, if you're listening, I'm sorry about my buddy.

Speaker 6 Oh, you brought Red Sox fans to the Mecca? By the way.

Speaker 3 By the way, Yankee fans are back for another reason for throwing balls onto the field on Friday night, which was

Speaker 3 like, I know people are like, this is horrible, but it's also very funny to be like the idea that many Yankee fans brought baseballs to the game. Like, what the fuck were they thinking? Totally.

Speaker 6 It wasn't my what message board was this planned on? Because there was some level of coordination that went into it.

Speaker 6 Is there like a, is it like a parlor for Yankees fans where they think that they're like communicating underground? They're really organizing basically a massive disruptive event.

Speaker 3 Well, or is it just, is it simply that Yankee fans, they love the game so much? It's like, all right, we're ready to go to the game.

Speaker 3 Okay, we got our, you got your wallet, your phone, your keys, your tickets, your vaccination, and your baseball in case the ump asks for an extra.

Speaker 6 The baseball and your mitt.

Speaker 3 Yeah. I like that.
It was just a very funny idea. Like, I know people were very upset, but I found it very funny that that many people had a baseball just randomly.

Speaker 3 And it's a great way to delay a game.

Speaker 6 Oh, for sure. What's it like rooting for the last-placed team in the entire American league? That's got to be tough.

Speaker 3 You need to, you need to. This is a question for Jake and Bill.

Speaker 6 Yeah, you need to manufacture some fun at these games.

Speaker 3 It's early. Do you want Aaron Boone fired? No.

Speaker 3 It's early. They'll put 9% of the season.

Speaker 6 Boone out.

Speaker 3 Boone out. That's fine.

Speaker 3 Long way to go. All right, Billy, who's your back? I saw

Speaker 8 Judge hit a home run, and Stanton hit a grand slam a couple days ago. And that's all I need to see.

Speaker 3 Bombs.

Speaker 8 Who's back of the week?

Speaker 3 Bombs. Wait, okay.

Speaker 3 Jake Hoozer, who's back?

Speaker 6 Do you think that maybe the Yankees have sucked ever since Aaron Judge fixed his teeth?

Speaker 8 It's honestly since a home run derby.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Four years.

Speaker 3 The entire Yankees 20-7. But think about it.
He has been hitting bombs.

Speaker 3 Billy is like my, I had a roommate in college who was a sleeper, and every year when there was daylight savings, he would just use that as an excuse for like two months.

Speaker 3 He'd be like, it still hit me pretty hard. Billy's like, yeah.
Aaron Judge.

Speaker 3 But it's the entire team, too.

Speaker 3 Like all the Yankees having to watch Aaron Judge hit the ball that far they're like fuck i'll never be that good so they all got bad too the year is the year is 2035 and billy's still blaming aaron judge's 2017 home run derby performance for the yankees woes by the way what do you guys think about this for the vaccination stuff what if we all got our second dose of the vax on the same day like a wednesday and then we just did a show on thursday we're all just like deathly sick you mean like that'll be me this thursday oh like getting coronavirus like i had yeah yeah i'm not trying to say that people stole Valor, but Billy, do you feel a little bit when people are like, oh, the second shot made me feel so bad?

Speaker 3 Yeah, like having it?

Speaker 8 Dude, I tried

Speaker 3 to do it. He trained through the fight.

Speaker 8 No, I have a positive dude. Yeah, he did.

Speaker 3 He did. He did.

Speaker 8 Yeah, he trained through the fight.

Speaker 3 It's crazy.

Speaker 6 He's got Corona twice.

Speaker 8 I think by getting punched in the face while having a fight.

Speaker 3 Imagine if Jose was actually not taking a dive, and that could have been a whole different situation.

Speaker 8 I feel bad for Jake Paul because he got robbed of the opportunity to compete.

Speaker 6 That's all I got to say.

Speaker 3 All right, Jake,

Speaker 3 who's back of the week? This is wild, but the Bayheims are back. Yeah, and they are reunited.
So wild.

Speaker 6 It was a wildest post. I saw Buddy Bayheim put out a tweet.
It's him. He's first of all.

Speaker 3 Get ready for that picture.

Speaker 6 He's like three, and he's wearing Syracuse gear. What?

Speaker 3 Yeah. So he knew all along.

Speaker 6 And then he ends up playing for the team when he gets older.

Speaker 3 And then his brother is now on Syracuse, too.

Speaker 6 And his brother was wearing Syracuse gear too. They get this.

Speaker 3 Their dad's the coach. No.
That's wild. No, no.
That's wild. That's wild.
It is wild. So, yeah, he's transferred from Cornell to Syracuse, and and it's going to be a wild year.
It's wild.

Speaker 3 That's funny. Wait till November, but yeah.
Yeah. Wild.
Oh, man.

Speaker 8 How far is Ithaca from Syracuse?

Speaker 3 Under an hour, I think.

Speaker 8 Not too bad.

Speaker 3 Yeah. There you go.
No. All I know is Ithaca is gorgeous.

Speaker 6 That's what they say.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Because it's

Speaker 3 gorgeous.

Speaker 8 Heard it sucks.

Speaker 3 One hour, four minutes.

Speaker 3 Seriously. That place close.
All right, there it is. And there's our travel review.

Speaker 3 All right, let's get to our interviews.

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Speaker 3 Okay, here he is, Daniel Jeremiah.

Speaker 3 Okay, we now welcome on recurring guest. It is NFL Network lead draft analyst.
You can find him on Twitter at MoveTheSticks.

Speaker 3 And on Instagram, he's the co-host of the Move the Sticks podcast with Bucky Brooks. It is the one and only only Daniel Jeremiah.
We're going to talk some draft. It's great to see you.

Speaker 3 It is draft season. What is that helmet? Is that the Wake Forest helmet? Oh, no.
Oh, no, that's Appalachian State. Yes, yes.
So I've got the two, right?

Speaker 3 So this is like, this is the one that I played in, which, by the way, weighs like 60 pounds. Like, I don't know how that.

Speaker 3 Why they were so heavy back in the day, but this little guy right here is their like patriotic helmet. Yes.
Look at that. That is sick.

Speaker 3 Horncock Pipe is a nice touch, too. Did they win when they wore it this year? I vaguely think.
You know what? I think they lost to Coastal Carolina. I think I lost.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 I vaguely remember losing a bet and being like, it's because of those candy ass helmets.

Speaker 3 Do you remember just like offhand?

Speaker 6 Because I was trying to think of this this morning. What happened in 2008 when it was you guys were up 21-0 at halftime to James Madison.
Something happened after that. I forget what it was.

Speaker 6 Do you remember? Oh, no.

Speaker 3 No, see, I don't take ownership of that because I graduated in 2000, so I don't take ownership of any type of a defeat.

Speaker 3 Mayock used to give me, Mayoc used to get on me because his son was at Villanova and they beat App State in the playoffs one year. And I'm like, Mike, I didn't play on the team, man.

Speaker 3 I'm not going to get offended when you're talking about you beat App State. Like, I'm not.
He got you, though. He got you good.
All right, so let's talk some

Speaker 3 draft. Let's do big picture first.

Speaker 3 I love to ask the question, how does this draft rank overall

Speaker 3 compared to, let's say, the last five drafts?

Speaker 3 Where does it rank in terms of this is a dynamite draft, there's gems everywhere versus, hey, this is kind of a lean one and teams are going to be struggling to find value in the second and third round?

Speaker 3 Well, I think like first round wise, normally there's, you know, a bad year is 18 first round grades for me, like on guys, and then a great year would be 27, 28. So that's kind of like the range.

Speaker 3 This year, there's like, I have 22, 23.

Speaker 3 first round guys so good uh good not like the best we've seen um depth it's just weird man because like we've always had like a premier edge rusher like a top 10 dude.

Speaker 3 We don't have that this year, and that's such a big position with the way the game's played. So the absence of that to me feels like

Speaker 3 you lessen your enthusiasm a little bit. But there's depth, there's good corners and linemen and stuff in the third round.
Can you explain that to me?

Speaker 6 Because this is part of the stuff that I love about the NFL draft experts is like when they put their first round grades on things.

Speaker 6 You just said that like in a good year, you'd have 28 first-round grades on a player. So

Speaker 6 there's never a year where there are 32 first-rounders who are deserving of being drafted in the first round?

Speaker 3 Yeah, you know,

Speaker 3 it's kind of convoluted, but like the way that we would do it with the teams I was with is you would give guys grade on kind of like starters, backups, role players.

Speaker 3 And so when I say like first round grades, I'm saying like guys that are just, you know, Pro Bowl level players, like guys that have a chance to go to a Pro Bowl, that type of ability.

Speaker 3 So that's kind of the cutoff point for me when I say like first round guys. I mean, these guys are, you know, quality players.
They're going to be quality starters.

Speaker 3 But, you know, if I'm taking a guy in the first round, ideally, you'd like to think he has a chance to be one of the 10 best guys at his position. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And so in that same vein, when you're in a war room, how much do you look at, okay, next year is bigger or the year after is going to be better?

Speaker 3 How much do you look at it like next two or three, three year window versus just, hey, it's this draft. That's all we're focused on? I think the free agency for sure.

Speaker 3 So you can back up some of your needs with next year's free agent class. So you kind of peek ahead a little bit of what could be out there.

Speaker 3 You cover up some of these needs you might not address in the draft. And I would say quarterbacks, like you're forecasting the quarterbacks out, which I don't know how you do it anymore.

Speaker 3 It used to be like we kind of knew at this time, okay, these are the three or four top guys next year, but then we had Burrow come out of nowhere, Kyler Murray come out of nowhere, Mac Jones this year coming out of nowhere.

Speaker 3 So I don't know how you do that anymore, but we used to do it. We used to be able to kind of look ahead and say, okay, if we don't take a quarterback now, our quarterback's a little older.

Speaker 3 We feel pretty good about the next couple of years. So along that same line, and you can tell me if I'm way off here, but it does feel like

Speaker 3 because the quarterback position is so, so important, it's always been important, but it feels like it's even more important now to get your guy that a lot of these teams, like what we see with the draft, and we're going to see it probably first three picks,

Speaker 3 teams are talking themselves into quarterbacks where every year now it's just going to be quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, three quarterbacks in the top 10, five quarterbacks in the first round.

Speaker 3 Do you think that there's a, like, teams are kind of making a mistake when they're doing that, when they're putting so much emphasis on a quarterback, when there could be just great players like

Speaker 3 Panay Sewell from Oregon, who, by all accounts, could be a Hall of Fame type offensive lineman, but you're going to take a shot at a quarterback that might not be the guy, but because of the quarterback position, everyone's going for it.

Speaker 3 Well, I think you're okay if you have, you know, if you have really good quarterbacks that you've elevated maybe a little bit above their level and you overdraft them a little bit because of that, you're fine.

Speaker 3 I still think it's a smart thing to do.

Speaker 3 We look at the economics of it. It's just so much cheaper if you can get one of these studs for the next five years.

Speaker 3 The problem has been in the past, like Ponder was a, you know, like a fourth round grade. He was a backup, you know, when he came out.
He got taken in the first round.

Speaker 3 You had Gabbert. You had that year where you had kind of those guys, Locker.
None of those guys were like first round players. But like an example would be if,

Speaker 3 you know, like Justin Herbert, I was way too low on Justin Herbert, but he was still like, I don't know, 18th, 19th overall on my list.

Speaker 3 So you take him with the sixth pick, like he's a first-round quarterback all day long. Maybe you move him up a little bit, paid off tremendously.

Speaker 3 That's a difference than taking a guy that's a fourth-round pick and trying to dream up some scenario where he's a starter. Right.
Okay.

Speaker 6 What about a guy like Jamar Chase, the guys that chose to sit out last year? Is there any noticeable downside to their decision in terms of where they're going in all like the all the mock drafts?

Speaker 3 Wait, you got it. Wait, hold on.
The way to ask that question is, does jamar chase really love football

Speaker 3 that's because then everyone gets upset about that online you know i would you know you guys ought to ask this question you ought to have mccaffrey on and be like dude remember when people got mad at me because i missed one meaningless bowl game remember that yeah i'm still mad at the whole discussion point yeah i took him off my big board yes he doesn't love the game

Speaker 6 but but seriously like is there because in my opinion like you get a year off football i'm sure he's still been working out unless it's like a mike williams situation where you put on you know a ton of weight going into the draft but um with a guy like jamar chase i feel like that his stocks shouldn't be hurt at all by that decision but i don't know what they're saying cares nobody cares i mean he showed up and ran on the four threes jumped 40 inches and is every bit the freak that we saw on tape so everything matched up most of the guys like the opt-out guys almost all of them came back and tested off the charts.

Speaker 3 So to me, it's almost like a good indication of what they're going to be like as pros because there's no babysitter. There's no college coach making sure you're in the meeting room at this time.

Speaker 3 You've had all your freedom to do whatever the heck you wanted. You've got a little money, you know, from marketing deals and agents and all that stuff.

Speaker 3 So have you been, if you've been accountable, I think it's almost a feather in the cap for some of these guys.

Speaker 3 The only one that I thought has hurt him a little bit, well, maybe two guys.

Speaker 3 There's Rousseau from Miami, who I still really like. But he tried to get bigger.
You know, he had played in like the 240s, 250s. So somebody got in his ear and told him he needed to add weight.

Speaker 3 So he added weight and just looked a little bit clunky and stiff through the pro day. And then Twyman is a D-limat pit.

Speaker 3 He was somebody that played in like the 290s and he put on a bunch of weight again because somebody told him he needed to get bigger.

Speaker 3 And, you know, he repped out 225 a zillion times and he didn't move very well. Yeah.
So outside of that, all those other guys, I mean, Sewell opted out, worked out great.

Speaker 3 Slater from a Northwestern, I mean, all those guys tore it up at their pro days.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I have a theory at a pro day.

Speaker 6 Is there any chance at all? Because you're seeing a lot of guys this year. It feels like one of the fastest draft classes that we've had in a while.

Speaker 6 At least like with the premier names you hear about guys running in you know the four threes four fours that you thought were going to be four five four six guys

Speaker 6 i think that colleges are making a specific section of their playing field have the like yard markers a little bit closer together so it's actually they're running a 38 yard dash instead of 40 yard dash my question i think that they should be doing that actually if they're not is there any chance that like when when a scout shows up to watch this pro day do they actually like measure out the 40 yards or do they just sit where they're told with a stopwatch and and be like, yep, checks out?

Speaker 3 Every pro day, you have to measure it out. So

Speaker 3 here's why Penn State was on a different level. Penn State, because you can measure out 40 yards, 40 yards, but not if it's on a slope.

Speaker 3 So the whole Penn State used to, those guys used to fly. And like, yeah, no crap, they're running.
running downhill. Like, you know, it's 40 yards, but these guys are literally running downhill.

Speaker 3 So that was the way that, you know, you kind of got away with it. But yeah, if you're a scout and you go to a workout and you don't measure it out, like you're kind of failing at at your job.

Speaker 6 But even if it's on the practice field, that's like a field turf field where it's already marked, they still measure those?

Speaker 3 Yep, and they'll put like a piece of tape and a cone, like, you know, half a yard past what would be the 40 yards on the field. Because

Speaker 3 a bunch of them

Speaker 3 are not lined properly. Interesting.

Speaker 3 All right, so let's do the quarterbacks. I want to hear what you have, you know, as your rankings.
I want to first, though, tell you our intern has his rankings.

Speaker 3 He played quarterback, not a big deal, but he did play quarterback,

Speaker 3 was recruited at the collegiate level, didn't play at the collegiate level, but he was recruited there. His quarterback rankings are Zach Wilson, one, Kellen Mond, two,

Speaker 3 Justin Fields, three, Mac Jones, four, Kyle Trask, five, Sam Ellinger, six, Trey Lance, seven, Trevor Lawrence, eight.

Speaker 3 Yeah, no, I mean, um,

Speaker 3 I think he's got a tremendous future in talk radio because this is like, that's like, that's at least eight segments worth of material off of one list. I mean, that's genius.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 His entire basis on Trevor Lawrence was that he was on such a good team that he never had to deal with things breaking down, which if you watch Trevor Lawrence, that's just not true.

Speaker 3 But that was his takeaway.

Speaker 3 Again, I think he's created so many talking points and so much content that can go on every platform that that's what a list is all about, right?

Speaker 3 That's what we're all trying to do is to just get a talking point. He's accomplished that.

Speaker 6 Let's put it another way, is Trevor Lawrence a ring chaser for going to Clemson instead of going to a program that might not have had as much talent where he wanted to be the guy? Yeah.

Speaker 3 Look, son, you want to come here and do what's always been done? Or you want to go over there and try and do something that's never been done? Yeah.

Speaker 3 I think that's a great. How many times has like the Idaho coach?

Speaker 3 pitched that yeah some kid he's like look you've got usc and oregon okay go do what everybody else does fine just be like those sheep or you could walk that narrow path come to the vandals and let's hoist that trophy together

Speaker 6 that speech has been given yeah i like so his entire premise behind zach wilson going first overall because i think the only tape that he's seen on zach wilson was at his pro day when he was throwing and he made that one throw that went you know from the left hash all the way to the right pylon and billy just fell in love with him because of that one throw is zach wilson like does he have i'll put it this way does he have the best arm in this draft i think he's the best thrower like for sure like just in terms of every throw Like if you, if you had a game of horse with all the quarterbacks and just said, I can, I'm going to make a throw, you try and duplicate it, he would win because he could contort his body and do so many crazy throws that he would, it was a dunk contest type thing as throws, he would win.

Speaker 3 So to me, he's the most talented thrower. He just, you get Trevor Lawrence with a bigger frame.
He's going to, to me, the durability with Zach is a little bit of a knock.

Speaker 3 He's had a shoulder injury on his throwing arm.

Speaker 3 So that to me is why I have him second. But I don't think it's crazy.
There are legit, really, really smart coaches and personnel guys in the league that have Wilson over Lawrence.

Speaker 3 That's not a crazy take. Any of them have seven spots over Lawrence? No, no.
And that's why they're coaching and

Speaker 3 not trying to produce content because those are two different job criteria.

Speaker 3 So give us, though, your top five quarterbacks because this is obviously,

Speaker 3 especially with the way the picks have stacked in,

Speaker 3 the first three are going to be quarterbacks and maybe even four. So how do you have them ranked? I have it Lawrence, then I have Wilson.
And then to me, like those are pretty distinct.

Speaker 3 Like I have Lawrence clearly one, Wilson clearly two. I think it's a really good discussion between Lance and Fields.
I think they're really close.

Speaker 3 I could, you know, be persuaded either way. If I had more time to visit with both of them and get more comfortable with them, I think it wouldn't surprise me at all if you went one or the other.

Speaker 3 I have Trey Lance over Fields, just with the decision-making and protecting the football.

Speaker 3 I gave him a little bit of a bump there. But that to me is like the biggest debate is those two guys.
And then I have Mac Jones behind them.

Speaker 6 So it's interesting that you put Mac Jones at five because he's the name that you've seen kind of climbing up the draft board as we've gotten further into this offseason.

Speaker 6 I feel like he's the smokescreen name.

Speaker 6 Like when Kyle Shanahan or somebody in the 49ers is letting word leak out that they might be considering Mac Jones, is that just bait to get other teams to believe that they might have to trade up?

Speaker 3 Yeah, I just don't know how it benefits them. You know, like the Jets are going to take Zach Wilson.
Lawrence is going to go to the Jags.

Speaker 3 Like you basically have the first pick in the draft with two players off the board. So like trying to hide your intentions, this doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 3 I can take you guys kind of behind the curtain on this thing, but I don't think I've ever told anybody this yet. But we were doing the pro day when the trade happened.
Right. So the Niners end up.

Speaker 3 I'd heard there was a chance it might happen. So I kind of alerted some people, be on the lookout.
We could have a trade. So we're watching Zach Wilson throw.
Boom. 49ers have traded up to three.

Speaker 3 So you're like, you're trying to like react to it in real time. And so I'm like, you know, this points to me to Trey Lance because we had Steve Weitz, our reporter there.

Speaker 3 He went and found Shanahan and Shanahan was like, Garoppolo's not going to go anywhere. We, you know, we want to keep Jimmy.

Speaker 3 So I'm like, oh, this points to like, you know, it's either Lance or Fields. Like, you don't have to play him right away, but like huge upside.
And then, so I'm talking about this.

Speaker 3 And then I get a text from somebody who's plugged in. And they're like, hey,

Speaker 3 I don't think you're talking about the right quarterback. And I'm like,

Speaker 3 I write back, like literally on, like, we're on the air, but you just see Zach Wilson. So I'm not on screen.
So I'm texting him. I text him back and I'm like, not Trey Lance question mark.

Speaker 3 And he writes back, he goes, no. And I go, if this, I literally write back, if this is Mac Jones, I'm, I'm going to fall off my chair.

Speaker 3 And he wrote back, you might want to put a mattress next to your desk.

Speaker 3 And I'm like, holy crud. So that's like, if you're watching that show live, I'm like, this Trey Lance, Justin Fields.
And I'm like, you know, there could be another name to keep an eye on here.

Speaker 3 Like, Mac, don't sleep on Mac Jones potentially being the pick here.

Speaker 3 But that's how you you kind of you're hearing this stuff as it's going on real time interesting and then what would be your not like you have you have mac jones ranked fifth he obviously wins a national title he's got an unbelievable alabama team what is his like weakness or what is his the thing you look at and you're like this is what might hamper him from being a 10-year pro in the nfl Well,

Speaker 3 I think he can be a 10-year pro. I think he's going to be a solid starting quarterback.

Speaker 3 It's just traditionally, you're not taking a guy with a third pick that, you know, it's to me, I think he's got like a lot of acceptable traits. Like you can win with this.

Speaker 3 They're like acceptable, acceptable, but not exceptional.

Speaker 3 And when you're trading multiple first round picks to go up to the third pick, I think you, you have ideas of, man, this guy can take this offense to a whole different place.

Speaker 3 And I think he just like fits in, plugs in, and can make the thing work as a quality starter.

Speaker 3 But I just never, when I watch him, did I envision A, he'd be the third pick or B, or B, like you'd be trading all the way up to go get him. It's just that surprised me.

Speaker 3 Is it crazy to look at these five quarterbacks that are all going to go in the first round and know statistically that two, maybe even three of them probably won't pan out, but like it's hard to sit here in the moment and be like, I, you know, two or three of these guys will not work, even though we're sitting here and saying they have all this upside.

Speaker 3 And, you know, Trey Lance and Justin Fields and Zach Wilson and Trevor Lawrence are all seemingly going to be great pros.

Speaker 3 It's the facts are the facts. Like, it is what it is.
Like a bunch of several of these guys aren't going to work out.

Speaker 3 And I think fit and and what's around them to support them is going to be a big impact on that there are very few of these guys like that's why i think trevor's pretty unique like andrew luck when he was coming out like okay i don't care where he goes like he's going to be good like that's going to work trevor lawrence wherever he goes he's going to be good it's going to work but so most of the other guys like trey lance you know what's around him with the play caller the offensive line and the pieces like that's going to largely determine whether or not he's going to be a great pro or not yeah no fault of his own it's he's at the mercy of of whatever they do the difference now versus like 10 years ago is with the contracts it's not as big a deal like it used to be like you're screwed if you miss on a kid up there you're screwed the bucks just won a super bowl coming off of missing a quarterback with the first pick yeah

Speaker 3 uh future hall of famer though future hall of famer jameis no no but yeah but look the cardinals just like yeah like that josh rose gone kyler murray's in like yeah no harm no foul wait so one last question about the quarterbacks and this one interests me because i hate the packers and i hope they don't have success past aaron rodgers but if aaron Rodgers plays for another three or four years, which he most likely will, Jordan Love's got nowhere to go.

Speaker 3 How do you rank Jordan Love amongst these five quarterbacks? Oh, I mean, that's hard. I mean, coming out, like just grade-wise,

Speaker 3 he would definitely be behind my top four guys. Okay, good.
So

Speaker 3 him and Mac Jones are like polar opposite players, but

Speaker 3 grade-wise, it's similar to me. Yeah.
Because that's an interesting one because if you're you're trying to think like, hey, I don't have a top 10 pick, I'm not going to get one of these guys.

Speaker 3 There are other guys floating around that you might have graded, you know, Sam Darnold going to the Panthers. You might have had him graded higher than one of these guys and take a shot at him.

Speaker 3 Yeah, people like freaked out on me because I had tweeted out if I stacked Sam Darnold in with this class, like I would, I would go Trevor. I would take Zach and then it would be Sam.

Speaker 3 Like I would take Sam over Lance and Fields and people like, you're crazy. I'm like, dude, he's 23 years old.
He's got, I loved him coming out of of USC. I still think he's really good.

Speaker 3 He just hadn't had a chance. So

Speaker 3 you have to do that. If you don't have a quarterback, those teams, Denver had to do it.
Obviously, Carolina felt good about him. They had to mix Sam in with this current group and see where he laid.

Speaker 6 So you said you've got Fields and Lance pretty much like A and B. Which one has the bigger hands? That would be my determination factor for a flip of a corner.

Speaker 6 Hand size.

Speaker 3 Can I look it up? Yeah, how do you not know this?

Speaker 6 You should know this off the

Speaker 6 back of your hand.

Speaker 3 This is really a failure on my part.

Speaker 6 Somebody on Reddit actually today just graded quarterbacks by neck girth, and they said that the quarterbacks with the girthiest necks have the best history in the NFL.

Speaker 6 So number one would be Trey Lance if we're just looking at the neck.

Speaker 3 Justin Fields is nine and an eighth.

Speaker 3 And we'll find you, Trey Lance, right?

Speaker 6 It's probably bigger than that.

Speaker 3 Trey Lance is also nine and an eighth. So this is wow.
What do you do? So then I think we have to go to arm length then. I've got 32 and a half for Fields.
Okay. Yep.
Let's see. Trey Lance.

Speaker 3 31 and a half. Man, Justin Fields.
That was wrong. Okay.

Speaker 3 So you're going to have to fix that.

Speaker 3 I've got time to flip that before we get to.

Speaker 6 How close are we to actually getting into phrenology with some of the quarterback, like skull measurements? Is that that's probably a bridge too far?

Speaker 3 You know what? You know, they really do the like the wrist measurements and the ankle measurements. I was not on a team that really valued some teams like really, really value that stuff.

Speaker 6 Wrist size.

Speaker 3 You know what's yeah, go ahead. Sorry.
No, I was going to say, you know what's even crazier is like the 40s.

Speaker 3 We were talking about how the 40s aren't as relevant this year because everybody ran 4-3, it seemed like.

Speaker 3 Most of the teams have all the GPS data and the stuff that they're sorting on that is insane. Yeah.
And like how they're able to do that. We're talking about like a safety.

Speaker 3 How much ground does he cover in the first, you know,

Speaker 3 second and a half of a play?

Speaker 3 Like they can, they have all that information. It's nuts.

Speaker 3 I would imagine, I mean, with all the information and how incredible it's become where we have all this tape and everything, I'd imagine there's going to be a switch where teams start drafting more so just on character.

Speaker 3 Like, and guys who, you know,

Speaker 3 not want it more, but kind of want it more because it feels like that's where you can find an edge instead of just finding the fastest, strongest, biggest guy.

Speaker 3 Yeah, all the data is going to give you the. a lot of the stuff on the player, you know, so your, your scouts are going to provide context and then they're going to provide the character stuff.

Speaker 3 Like that's kind of, the role of the scout.

Speaker 3 Honestly, one of the reasons why I didn't want to go back into it and why I left because I got to the point where I was doing so much background and character work on guys.

Speaker 3 And I'm like, this is not, I like watching tape and talking about him as football players.

Speaker 3 I really don't care to talk to his high school coach for 30 minutes on the phone about a fight he got into at an In-N Out Burger, you know, 20 years ago.

Speaker 3 Yeah, which I've, I've, I've had those conversations.

Speaker 6 You never, you never got the gig where you were assigned to just stay in a bar and see if uh Justin Blackman showed up for a week.

Speaker 3 No, no, that, but I know dudes that

Speaker 3 have done that stuff. It's just brutal, man.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I have to ask this. I don't understand what Ryan Pace is doing with the Bears quarterback position, but

Speaker 3 what have you heard? Are they going to try to draft someone?

Speaker 3 And if they do draft someone, who's the guy that you have that's maybe a third or fourth rounder that's like, hey, if everything goes right for him, he could be Dak Prescott or Russell Wilson, something like that.

Speaker 3 Well, I mean, I like Kellen Mond as like a second, third-round pick, but according to your intern, he's long gone by that. Yeah, Billy's got him two.

Speaker 3 No, he's got the Jets. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Billy's high on a lot of my third, fourth-round guys, so that kind of hurts my list.

Speaker 6 Wouldn't it be hilarious if like five years from now we look back at this interview and Billy Monday spot on with it?

Speaker 3 He crushed it. He's in your seat on the Crush Network.

Speaker 3 Trevor Lawrence played two years and then retired because he didn't love the game.

Speaker 3 I've got Billy's job. He's got mine.
That's totally happening.

Speaker 6 Who do you have as the best athlete in this draft? And why is is it Kyle Pitts?

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, that's probably a good one. Yeah, I mean, he's a freak, man.
Did you hear the rumor? This would be incredible. And I just like to fantasize about this.

Speaker 3 This is a situation where we have too much time before the draft that the 49ers traded up to three to draft Kyle Pitts and have George Kittle and Kyle Pitts on the same offense and then just fuck people up that way.

Speaker 3 I tweeted like my first mock draft, I put Pitts to, this is like in January, I put Pitts at 12 to the Niners. And then and people lost their minds.

Speaker 3 Like, and I'm like, they're like, why would they, they've got kiddo, why would they take him? I'm like, first of all, there's no chance on earth he's going to be there with the 12th pick.

Speaker 3 I did this just because I wanted to fantasize for a minute about what Kyle Shanahan would do with Kyle Pitts.

Speaker 3 Like you break the huddle, you don't, like, you don't know who's playing receiver, running back, tight end, anything. All those guys can do everything,

Speaker 3 but he ain't going to be there. And then this

Speaker 3 we went from like people being crazy mad at me for saying he was going to be the 12th pick to now people being like, they've traded all these first rounders to go get him at three.

Speaker 3 Like, that's how the draft cycle kind of comes around. But I, dude, I don't think I love him.
He's the second best player of the draft for me behind Lawrence.

Speaker 3 But if you trade all that, you got to take a quarterback. Could you imagine, though? Could you imagine?

Speaker 3 No, it would be awesome. It would be awesome.

Speaker 6 Tired imagining quarterbacks in Kyle Shanahan's system, wired watching tight ends in Kyle Shanahan's system.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and that's Kyle Shanahan has gotten, I think, enough leeway in terms of his like success and, you know, perceived genius that if he did that, I think people would buy in.

Speaker 3 It's like Belichick can draft anyone and everyone would be like, oh, that's a Hall of Famer. Like Kyle Shanahan's approaching that level of what does he see that no one else sees?

Speaker 3 That's a good point.

Speaker 3 And dude, why we're kind of workshopping this here, we take Kyle Pitts right there at three.

Speaker 3 We can get, I think at 43, we can get Billy's second quarterback there in the second round.

Speaker 3 You come out of this thing with Pitts and Billy's number two signal caller.

Speaker 3 Billy probably has Ben Mason, the fullback from Michigan, going in the second round.

Speaker 6 And imagine that. I mean, he loves fullbacks too.

Speaker 3 You've got Uscheck, you've got Mason, who's blocking who? You know, you don't even know. I love it.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so

Speaker 6 one of my favorite parts about the draft is like the different terminology and how it evolves from the past.

Speaker 6 Like back when you were scouting, one of the big terms that people started to use was road grader. Road Grader became like a real thing in the 90s, 2000s.
Then it kind of evolved into dude.

Speaker 6 You just say like, that guy's a dude. And now

Speaker 6 I'm starting to hear the term war daddy bubble up a little bit.

Speaker 3 Whoa.

Speaker 6 Can you explain to me what a war daddy is, Joe? I love Alex Cooper.

Speaker 3 Because

Speaker 6 it sounds fucking awesome, and I want to know what it is.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he's just an absolute butt kicker. Like he's, you know,

Speaker 3 you can't do anything about it. He's the most violent physical player on the field.
He's got hurt. He's playing with a torn ACL.
He's just, he's a war daddy. So who's the war daddy in this draft?

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Oh, that's a great question.

Speaker 3 Well, usually a war daddy. Well, I'll give you one.
Like Quinn Miners from Wisconsin Whitewater is like a war daddy.

Speaker 3 Is that the center? Is that the center? Yes. That's the guy who was like blocking trees in a Canada fishery.
Yeah, and snapping to, yeah, yeah, I remember watching all those videos. Yes.

Speaker 3 Okay, that's a war daddy. I like that.
Those guys last.

Speaker 3 So if you let's just play this game real real quick. The

Speaker 3 let's see, I'm looking at the picks.

Speaker 3 Oh, I remember what I wanted to say. Devontae Smith, you just were on with our friend Stephen Che.

Speaker 3 I have a debate with him, which I'm fully going to gaslight him that he said the opposite if I am proven wrong. But is Devontae Smith really not going to be picked in the top 10?

Speaker 3 I just

Speaker 3 finished this conversation with him. He's very invested in this conversation.
Oh, yeah. He doesn't realize that he unfortunately doesn't.
He takes everything very seriously.

Speaker 3 He doesn't realize that if I'm proven wrong, I will just deny and

Speaker 3 flip it on him. Right, exactly.
But tell me, is there any chance he goes top 10? I think that I told him that I think it's probably 60-40 in his favor that he doesn't go top 10.

Speaker 3 So, but it's, it's still, you're very much in the game. It's, it's, Detroit is your, that's your spot.
Why? Is it, are his legs too skinny?

Speaker 3 Well, I think, like I told him, like, he's going to be a really good pro.

Speaker 3 I don't think it, you know, your frame has anything to do with how good of a player you're going to be, but just historically, you know, the heightweight speed receivers are the ones that go in the, in the top 10.

Speaker 3 And this year with five quarterbacks, pits, and tackles, like that could just kind of push him and Waddle.

Speaker 3 I have, I think they're like two of my top six ranked players in the whole draft, but I think both of them could go outside the top 10.

Speaker 6 See, all you have to say, if it does happen, be like, no, I just had him in my top 10. Yeah, I had him, my grade was the top 10.

Speaker 3 No, I'm just going to gaslight him and flip it and be like, I always thought he was out of the top 10. You said he was in the top 10.
His talent was good enough.

Speaker 6 His measurables, his speed.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I've already started that process, to be be honest. By the way, do you guys want me to send you?

Speaker 3 I have from when I was with the Ravens, we had a scouting, like a seminar type thing at training camp one year where

Speaker 3 we just went over scouting terms. So I have

Speaker 3 a Word document with just hundreds of scouting terms. I love it.
I love it. What's your favorite one?

Speaker 3 Or what's the one? Well,

Speaker 3 we had an old, an old scout. Unfortunately, his name is Ron Marsenak.
He's since passed away. He was with the Cowboys forever.

Speaker 3 He was with us and the the ravens and he used to call like defensive players he used to say this guy's a butt slapper and and i had been i had been i had been in the room for like a couple meetings before as a first-year scout like we leave the room like hey coach ron keeps saying this guy's a butt slapper like what does that mean he goes oh it means he never arrives in time to make the tackle but he slaps the butt of the guy he did

Speaker 3 okay no i know

Speaker 3 he also used to say he used to say a guy was he would he was a wood hauler and i'm like a wood what the heck is a wood hauler he's like, think about somebody that's hauling wood as a blocker.

Speaker 3 Like they're kind of like hauling wood, like they're kind of moving around. They're moving around like this.
I'm like, oh, that's a pretty good descriptive. Yeah.

Speaker 6 I feel like there's like two stacks of words. On the left, you have words like dude, butt, dick,

Speaker 3 toad, hip. And no, no, I think hips are the second one.

Speaker 6 And then like oily. And then on the right, you've got like hips, greater,

Speaker 6 daddy.

Speaker 3 And you just

Speaker 6 pick one out of every pile, and then that's your description of a guy. But I I love that.
That's the part of the draft that I love so much.

Speaker 6 I'm looking at the top 10 here, and the Falcons are talking about maybe trading out, right? They put word out that they're open to hearing offers for that pick.

Speaker 6 Is there any chance that the Dolphins trade back up into number four? And if so, how many times can the Dolphins trade a pick?

Speaker 6 Like, could teams just keep trading a pick, and then they wouldn't have to actually make one?

Speaker 3 That's a great question.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I get because the clock resets once the trade's made, right? So you just keep infinitely going back and forth.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I guess technically you could do that.

Speaker 3 I think the Eagles are more likely to trade back up as opposed to the Dolphins. Like the Eagles went from, what, six to 12.

Speaker 3 And then I think to me, like, if Pitts were to slide a little bit, I could, you know, I don't think that will happen.

Speaker 3 But if for some reason Cincinnati goes with Sewell and then you have the Dolphins and they like Jamar Chase, take Jamar Chase, I could see the Eagles maybe saying, okay, we could trade back up to seven or eight for Pitts and maybe still hold on to the first round pick next year you got for sliding from six to twelve.

Speaker 3 Like Howie Roseman, just he loves that, he loves the action, so it would not surprise me at all if he traded back only to come back up again.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I'm going to make you do a reputation pick both ways. Okay.
I want the guy who you think is going to be

Speaker 3 great and that you've fallen in love with. Can't be one of the obvious ones.

Speaker 3 And then a guy, we won't bash anyone, but a guy who there's a lot of love for him and you just kind of don't see it the same way.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I'll say

Speaker 3 Jameen Davis, the linebacker from Kentucky, is like one of my favorite players in the draft. So he'll probably go late first, but

Speaker 3 he's a stud, man. Like he is so explosive and he can really cover.
So linebackers like that that can cover these tight ends, like there's tremendous value. So I love his game.

Speaker 3 And then, I mean, I think Pinne Sewell is a really good player,

Speaker 3 but I don't think he's kind of the Hall of Fame level player that he's been

Speaker 3 described as. So, and I'm a little bit on an island from a media standpoint, but I know there's a lot of teams that feel that way.
So I like him. I like Slater better than him.

Speaker 3 I thought Slater was just better on tape than he was. And I like the top three tackles last year for me were Beckton,

Speaker 3 Worfs, and Wills. Those three guys, I would take them over

Speaker 3 Panay. He's still young.
He's got a huge upside. He's going to be a good player.
I'm not saying he's not a bust or anything like that. He's a really good player.

Speaker 6 I just said he doesn't love football. And we'll put a graphic up that says Dane Jeremiah projects

Speaker 3 and then big red letters bust.

Speaker 3 No, I appreciate that though, because I have not heard anyone say, like, hey, I don't think he's a surefire Hall of Famer, which that's kind of what he's been talked about, like how he's been talked about.

Speaker 3 So I think that's also, I think Jeff Schwartz just tweets about him too much. So Jeff, Jeff's great.

Speaker 3 But the funny thing about the funny thing about this is like your conviction always gets challenged.

Speaker 3 Like it's one thing, like you have a take on somebody and then you hop on social media and you're just getting braided and beat up for your opinion on the guy, right and that can cause you you know usually that doesn't shake your confidence like okay this guy know anything I've you know I hopefully am better quote unquote trained but then I'm not I'm not a huge Panay Sewell guy and one of the reasons is I've said I was around Jonathan Ogden with the Ravens I was around Joe Thomas with the Browns I was around Jason Peters with the Eagles like these are studs but it does shake your confidence a little bit when one of those guys i.e joe thomas sends you a text like bro i love panay sewell how do you not have him as the top guy i'm like joe i've been saying he's not you he's like well he kind kind of reminds me of myself

Speaker 3 just stop just stop oh no that that'll shake you a little bit when you get that one yeah can you um here's one that uh i've had a debate with some people some by you fans online what happened with zach wilson's captainship was he a captain or was he not

Speaker 3 So, yeah, I did like a deep dive on this. I did too.

Speaker 3 I had like people were sending me

Speaker 3 pictures of him with the C,

Speaker 3 yes, yes. And then saying, but no, no, no, no, but that wasn't at the beginning of the year.

Speaker 3 and then he was a game captain, not a team captain, and this is voted on by the team, and this is, and I'm like, there's so much information out there in this whole thing.

Speaker 3 And I'm like, then the people are sending me pictures of him walking out with the captains. Yes.
I'm like, what did you find out?

Speaker 3 I'm desperate to know because I had, I literally had this like one of those moments like, hey, put your phone down, dude.

Speaker 3 You're debating with some dude who doesn't have an avatar who's sending you Zach Wilson pictures of the C on his chest. And I'm sending him back articles that say he wasn't voted a captain.

Speaker 3 What did you find? So what I found out was that it was later on in the process he had, you know, earned his, his captaincy or what have you. So it wasn't, you know, right from the beginning, but

Speaker 3 he had earned it. But I didn't even, I didn't even really put it.
I just was talking to the coaches and trying to figure out like, you know, leadership wise and all that stuff.

Speaker 3 And he checked all that stuff. He was good there.
So I wasn't going to obsess over that.

Speaker 6 But not voted a captain. No, it sounds like he was a game captain, meaning like, yeah, that's asterisks.
It should have been a C with an asterisk next to it.

Speaker 3 And it's stupid.

Speaker 3 It is stupid but at the same time it's very hard to not be a captain when you're the quarterback well i think the way it was kind of explained to me was he actually had to kind of win the job again you know coming back because he played really well in 2018 then has the the shoulder injury on his throwing shoulder right after that season that you know coming off a bowl game i think he was like 18 for 18 in the bowl game in 18.

Speaker 3 so then has his shoulder surgery so he's recovering from that he's totally he's not totally healthy he plays okay in 2019 then hurts his thumb so he missed some time with that on his throwing hand.

Speaker 3 So 2019 was really kind of recover from the shoulder, bad thumb. And then 2020 was like a totally different dude because he was healthy.
He was totally healthy. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Okay, I got one last question for you. Is there going to be over under

Speaker 6 0.5 kickers and punters drafted this year?

Speaker 3 Oh, over.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 3 I haven't watched any of them, but

Speaker 3 I'll just go with the odds on that one and take the over. Okay, there is one that's rumored for the sixth round.
Okay, follow-up question. That's a great, that's a hold on.

Speaker 3 That's a great reminder because every year, two days before the draft, I'll call a GM and I'll go, hey, I have not watched any of these kickers and punters. I really don't care to.

Speaker 3 Just tell me who the top three punters are, who the top three kickers are, and I will sell that like it's nobody's business when those guys get picked.

Speaker 6 All right, so follow-up. The draft is going to be in Cleveland this year.
They're letting fans onto the field to kick field goals as the draft is going on.

Speaker 3 Be great for Cody Parky's confidence. Yeah.

Speaker 6 If, hypothetically, somebody were to step up during the draft, maybe it's on that Saturday. Maybe it's, you know, you're getting the sixth round, seventh round.

Speaker 6 Just a random person steps up there and absolutely drills a 35-yarder, splits the uprights by like 10 yards,

Speaker 6 would have been good for like 46. Is there any chance that maybe Mike Vrabel tells Sloan, beat it, I'm drafting this guy?

Speaker 3 I would say similar to the odds of Devontae Smith going in the top 10. That's a 40, 60

Speaker 3 operation, though. Okay.
Okay. All right.

Speaker 3 Keep your hopes alive.

Speaker 3 I wasn't talking about me. Yeah, just a fan.
Yeah. Just odds.
Odds for the fan.

Speaker 6 If it was the fan, the brown bag, brown.

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3 All right. I know we probably asked you this last year when you were on, but I love to just do it.
Give us a name that you just totally missed. You screwed up.
Worst pick ever,

Speaker 3 let's say three or four years ago.

Speaker 3 I mean, I go back further than that. I mean, the obvious one for me is Danny Watkins.
I was in Philadelphia when we drafted him. Okay.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 in hindsight, like, I know we had talked to him on the phone.

Speaker 3 Scouts, I don't remember if it was that night or it was the next day. And we were talking to him, and it was like some noise in the background.

Speaker 3 And he was out like, I think he was, is there such thing as like pig hunting or hog hunting? I don't know.

Speaker 3 Yes. I watched a video on YouTube, Black Hog Down.
They just go in a helicopter and they fucking shoot them all up. I swear to God.
He was out doing that like after the draft.

Speaker 3 And then, you know, obviously, he loved firefighting and all that stuff and hunting. He didn't really, he was one who legitimately did not like football.
But that was, yeah, that was not great, man.

Speaker 3 And you're like, yeah, that didn't end well. What about as an analyst? Like, let's say three years ago.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Oh, my gosh. Mahomes is my worst one.
I mean, because I thought he was total boomer bust,

Speaker 3 all, you know, all this raw talent, but he was so not ready to go. So I was hesitant on that one.
And obviously, you know, this guy's the freaking best player in the NFL. So that's a pretty bad mess.

Speaker 6 Yeah, and maybe best player in the history of the NFL.

Speaker 3 That would be tough if

Speaker 6 you had him graded as a bust.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's not great. That's not on the billboard.

Speaker 6 What about this quote here? Billy sent this over. It's Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 6 The quote is, well, it's actually from his dad. Trevor Lawrence's dad on Trevor's mentality.
He's not, I want to win a Super Bowl at all costs.

Speaker 6 Quote from his high school coach, he could walk away from it tomorrow and be fine.

Speaker 3 Oh,

Speaker 3 what do you think?

Speaker 3 That's breaking news right there. Yeah, I think

Speaker 3 Billy made this quote up.

Speaker 6 I tried to get you the Shannon Sharp Kevin Durant.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he photoshopped that for sure. For sure.

Speaker 3 Well, yeah.

Speaker 3 All I would say on that stuff, like, because you'll see different quotes come out on guys, but I would be like, look,

Speaker 3 what's the preparation like and what's the play like? If he's putting in the time,

Speaker 3 you know, if he, if he doesn't die with each and every loss like i think burrow would like burrow was wired differently than that like burrow wears those losses big time um but if if they're both putting in all the preparation yeah it's not a big deal yeah um all right well daniel jeremiah thank you so much always fun we're excited for the draft everyone go check him out move the sticks on twitter and instagram and move the sticks podcast with bucky brooks thank you so much and uh good luck on draft night Appreciate you guys.

Speaker 3 Great to see you again. All right.
Great to see you, man.

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Speaker 6 And now, here's Troops.

Speaker 3 And now for something completely different.

Speaker 3 Okay, we now welcome on our good friend Troops, recurring guest. You can go listen to his podcast back again.
He is our colleague. He's an Arsenal fan.
And

Speaker 3 we just started talking before we got on. He is a huge proponent of the Super League.
He knows this is great for soccer.

Speaker 3 He knows that finally Americans have gotten their hands into the beautiful game, and we have finally figured it out where we can get. No, no, no, no, there's no Premier League.
It's the Super League.

Speaker 3 So, troops, congratulations, all your hard work done.

Speaker 3 It's a great day to be a soccer fan.

Speaker 13 No, it's not blood.

Speaker 3 Why?

Speaker 13 Because they're taking the heart and soul out of football, blood. You lot don't understand.
You lot, you understand? In NBA, no one gets relegated, blood.

Speaker 3 You play the same dead teams every year.

Speaker 13 It's boring blood. Like, there's nothing fun.
Like, you understand? You say, oh, the playoffs. Fuck the playoffs, blood.
You understand?

Speaker 3 I want my FA Cup. I want my Caribou Cup.

Speaker 13 I want my Champions League, my Europa League, my Premier League. I don't want just one tournament, blood.

Speaker 3 Well, okay. I hear you, but if you combined all that, wouldn't it make the Super League? I mean, it's super.
It's literally super. It says it in the name.

Speaker 13 Nah, but all it is is money, blood. You understand? It's just all the

Speaker 3 members.

Speaker 3 Let's actually talk about it and say, well, we'll keep trolling you, but let's explain it to the people who

Speaker 3 we did it off the top of the show, but we probably did a terrible job because we don't really know, but we kind of know. So, explain how this happened and whether it's actually going to happen.

Speaker 3 That's the part I think that we have no idea, and we just guessed that. Can this actually happen? Will it actually go through?

Speaker 13 Well, this has been rumored for years now. And I started, it's been rumored for a long time.

Speaker 13 Former Arsenal coach Arsenal Wengar came out and said in 2018 that in years to come, there could be a format where the elite teams of

Speaker 13 break away from the leagues and form their own type of league thing, like a super league format.

Speaker 3 Yeah, now, what year was that?

Speaker 13 This was in 2018.

Speaker 3 20 wait, what 2018?

Speaker 6 2018. 2018.

Speaker 3 Okay, that's fucking

Speaker 3 2018. 2018.

Speaker 3 Fake hammer blood, I swear down. 2018.

Speaker 6 So he said that there's a possibility of that happening, and you thought that it was an empty threat that was put out there?

Speaker 13 Nah, not an empty threat because when you look at the way football's going, it is money-orientated now. If you don't spend, you don't win.

Speaker 13 The clubs at the top are the richest. That's how it is now.
It's not like back in the day when you could grow the youth and then put the youth into the team and then grow the team.

Speaker 13 Like Man United did that, Arsenal did that back in the day. You can't do that no more.

Speaker 13 You have to go out and spend the big bucks and get your Mbappes and your message, them kind of players to elevate.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 13 you could see it coming, but you never thought it would come because the clubs that were involved in England are the historic clubs that have fucking call them the founding fathers.

Speaker 13 Like you lot got your founding fathers in America, innit?

Speaker 6 They're the ones that beat you.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 13 Nah, they never beat. Nah, they never beat.

Speaker 6 Do you consider that like, in a way, result? Because like, do you get a

Speaker 6 point for that? Because you lost in America?

Speaker 13 Nah, not at all, Blood. You get me? We chose to lose to you, Lot.
Just remember that you don't still speak English. You don't speak American.

Speaker 6 You wanted the higher draft pick.

Speaker 3 You tanked that one. Got Got it.
You're a wild blood. By the way, troops,

Speaker 3 I got bad news for you. One of the founding fathers of the NFL is actually the Chicago Bears.

Speaker 13 Oh, is that your team?

Speaker 3 Yeah, but that actually bodes poorly for what you're going to say here because the Bears are a terribly run organization, and it sounds like now you have the founding fathers of the EPL.

Speaker 3 Like, they're going to ruin the entire Premier League, right? So what happens when they make the Super League?

Speaker 3 Will those teams still, those teams won't play in the Premier League at all?

Speaker 13 So what will happen is if this Super League comes to fruition, then

Speaker 13 there's no more, we can't play in the Premier League, we can't play in the Champions League, we can't play in the FA Cup, the Caribro Cup. Our players can't play international football neither.

Speaker 13 UEFA have come out and said that they will ban, no, sorry, FIFA have come out and said that they will ban anybody who

Speaker 13 plays for a European Super League team from playing international football and any other form of football apart from European Super League football.

Speaker 13 So you're not only fucking over the fans who go to games week in, week out,

Speaker 13 the other people that don't support the big teams who dream of playing at the Emirates Stadium, playing at Old Trafford,

Speaker 13 playing at Anfield,

Speaker 13 even PFT's team. You're taking the dream away from PFT.
Like, he's running for top four right now. He's running for Champions League blood.
That dream is dead.

Speaker 3 Wait, you're done out. Wouldn't it be easier? Your dream is finished.

Speaker 6 Wouldn't it be easier for a middle-of-the-road team to then win the EPL if they get rid of all the people?

Speaker 3 No, but then this is the thing.

Speaker 6 It's not our thing because you're not in the top four, but like a team that was good. If they're no longer in the league, it makes it easier for the Crystal Palaces of the world.

Speaker 13 Now, but then this is the thing.

Speaker 13 The Crystal Palaces of the world, you're taking their chance of playing at an Emirates, at an Anfield, at a burnabau, at a new camp, at a Bayer Munich Stadium, at Juventus' juventus's ground at the sanciro you're taking that dream away from them you're taking the dream away from leicester who won the league in 2016 some little any team won the league up against united arsenal city liverpool chelsea the greats of english football they won the league and then had the chance to go and play in europe you're taking that away from them so then they can't play madrid away they can't play barca away their fans ain't going to experience what we experience on a daily you understand because for us like right now the teams in in the top six who are in the super league, we're in poor position because our money's coming to us, we're gonna have this and that.

Speaker 13 But we're defending the like the true fans, we're defending the smaller teams because we're like, now you're taking the piss blood.

Speaker 13 Because I enjoy going to the small grounds, yeah, it's more homely, it's it's raw, it's it's where football's made.

Speaker 13 Like, I remember at Arsenal, we played a team called Sutton United, they was in they was in the they was in like the fifth, they was in like five leagues below us.

Speaker 13 I I mean, our ground is 60,000 capacity. Their ground is two, their ground's 2,000.
When you go away at a Premier League ground, you get minimum 2,000 away fans to go to that ground.

Speaker 13 We had 200 fans in that ground.

Speaker 13 And you was like, you could literally touch the players' blood.

Speaker 13 Alexis was there. I was like, I could grab Alexis.

Speaker 3 I could grab Ozul.

Speaker 13 You're taking that away from man blood.

Speaker 3 Okay, I actually.

Speaker 13 They're bastards.

Speaker 3 They're money-driven. I'm understanding this more.
I made the analogy

Speaker 3 for

Speaker 3 American sports fans, like if the top baseball teams just said fuck it because they can spend more money.

Speaker 3 But actually, the more you explain it, the way to like fully understand how truly fucked this is and fucked up this is would be if it was college and like the because like all right, so for the Big Ten football, which you won't understand, but our listeners will.

Speaker 3 Everyone gets mad because Ohio State always wins, but my point is always that, you know, the year that you beat Ohio State is an insane year for your team.

Speaker 3 Even though you're not going to be as good as Ohio State year in and year out, playing at Ohio State, going to Ohio State, beating them in Columbus is like a memory that you'll have forever as a fan.

Speaker 3 So if you took like Ohio State and, you know, the top teams out of each, Alabama didn't play in the SEC anymore and they played in their own league.

Speaker 3 Or if it was college basketball, if like Duke didn't play in March Madness, well, sorry, that's a bad analogy because that actually, you can think about it this year.

Speaker 3 But, but it would be similar like that. You would have those moments that you lose where it's like, so I get it.
This actually really, really sucks. Now, my question, though,

Speaker 3 we talked about this at the top, too, about how FIFA could basically ban Super League players from playing in the World Cup.

Speaker 3 Do you think that that would actually stop players from playing in the Super League? Do you think that these type of bans will actually have the effect of keeping the Super League from forming?

Speaker 13 I think it will because the true players, as a child, you dream of

Speaker 13 of playing for your country you dream of playing for your favorite team but your country is always a dream you watch like as a kid you watch the euros you see man like gascoin banging them in top bins shira banging it in top bins you're like yo that could be me like a french kid growing up he could have seen orn re winning the world cup ziddam winning the world cup and bappé winning the world cup like yo i want to do that like i want to be the next and bappy i want to score in the world cup final you're taking that away from the players blood so how do the players even feel themselves bro how do the players at this top six clubs feel themselves?

Speaker 13 They should be sitting there. The real players should be sitting there and be like, now fuck this.
I'm not playing the next game. I'm not playing the next game, bro.

Speaker 6 But if their salaries are high enough, if they're paying, you know, tens of millions of dollars more per year than they could get in another league, you're going to see a lot of those players try to do it.

Speaker 6 But I guess my question is, why is FIFA taking this stand? Like, what's in it for FIFA to kind of side with the old way of how things have always been and to shut down the start of this new league?

Speaker 13 Is there like a direct incentive for them to keep things in place the the way they are like the way it is now yeah it's every team has an opportunity every team has a chance no matter how shit you are how broke you are you've got a chance when you take this away so like in the in england you got the fa cup you have you could have a sunday league team yeah that plays on a that play they just play on a sunday kick about in the park but they have a chance to play in the fa cup so they have to qualify but imagine they qualified and got to the third round and then they got drawn against an Arsenal or a United away.

Speaker 13 These are men that just literally go to work.

Speaker 13 Normal guys could be builders, plumber, doctors, and then their hobbies, football. They play football to stay fit.
And then, next thing you know, you've been drawn against Arsenal away.

Speaker 13 You're walking out of the Emirate Stadium, 60,000 fans.

Speaker 13 Hairs on the back of your fucking hair, just hairs on the back of your neck, standing up, blood.

Speaker 3 You understand?

Speaker 13 You're taking the core away from what it is blood. And you're ruining it.
And then players, the real players that will sit there and be like, nah, fuck that. I'm not going there.

Speaker 13 I'm going to go Leicester. Because if I go Leicester, I can play for England.
I can go to the World Cup. I can win more trophies.
If you go to the Super League,

Speaker 13 yeah, you'll have money. But when you get into sport, when you finish sport, you're judged on what you won.
You're not judged on how much you made. You're judged on what you won.

Speaker 13 Because if you are great in football, if you win things and dominate in your sport and dominate in your position when you finish football because you're great doors will open for you people will want to talk to you people want you to manage children people want you to work like if you're a legend of a club they want you to come in the club because you're a legend people that sign for the club you all want to sign for arthur because of honri boom on re's

Speaker 13 yourself

Speaker 3 but i i guess

Speaker 6 what i'm asking is like i i get that i get why you want to keep these traditions in place. It makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 6 I'm curious why FIFA is making it publicly known known that they're opposed to the formation. Like the governing body of FIFA that controls international soccer,

Speaker 6 why are they opposed to a new league that would pay the players more, but then obviously like ruin the institutions that they have?

Speaker 6 What's in it for FIFA to come out so forcefully on the side of the fans, to their credit? This is like the first time I remember FIFA doing something publicly where everybody was like, thank you.

Speaker 6 Yes, we appreciate it. So what's in it for them? What's their angle on this?

Speaker 13 I don't think there's nothing in for, I don't think there's nothing in it for them. I just think that they've looked at it from a human perspective.

Speaker 13 And because some of the officials at FIFA could support a small team, it's not guaranteed that the FIFA officials will support an Arsenal or a Man United or a Juventus or a Real Madrid or a Barcelona.

Speaker 13 They could support a Valencia, they could support a Villa Royale, they could support an Aston Villa, they could support a

Speaker 13 Swansea, they could support

Speaker 13 a Brentford, they could support a Barnett, they could support it. It's not guaranteed that they support a big team, so they probably feel affected as well by that.
And then they could have children.

Speaker 13 And then their kids could want to play

Speaker 13 for their country. And then their kids are like, yo, dad, yo, what's going on?

Speaker 13 So if I play for them, I can't, I can't do that. So I think FIFA's just looked at it from a human perspective.
And they're like, football

Speaker 13 works the way it is. You understand? We can always better it, but we don't have to break away and literally change the whole thing.

Speaker 3 Yeah,

Speaker 3 everything you're saying makes sense. And I mean, I agree.
We're going to troll because it's fun and it's also.

Speaker 3 very clear that this is an Americanized version of sport, which makes it very funny because

Speaker 3 just to be like, yeah, we fixed a sport that didn't need fixing. But so how do you think this plays out? A lot of people are saying this also could just be

Speaker 3 a bargaining chip to try to get Champions League qualifiers changed a little bit so that the top teams always are in Champions League so they don't miss out on that money.

Speaker 3 Do you think there's actually this could actually happen or do you think this is a bargaining play and there'll be a ton of talks and eventually super league won't happen i think this could happen blood because when you check the levels um arsenal are owned by american slan crunky genius

Speaker 13 wanker when i come back to i've already put out hashtag find crunchy i'm coming for you when i come back to america um

Speaker 3 what are you going to do what are you going to do shake his hand because he got you into the super league nah none of that even when you look at liverpool um, the Henry's, Joe, John Henry, American, you look at United, the Glape Wanker as well.

Speaker 13 You look at

Speaker 6 the Glazers, you're just naming teams that are all like owners that are all enormously successful in America. Yeah, businessmen.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but I don't give a fuck about America, blood.

Speaker 13 I'll give a fuck about American sports blood. I care about Arsenal Football Club.
Yeah, that's what I care about, blood. I've moved to America to make football cool blood.
Yeah, I'm doing my job.

Speaker 13 You understand? These men need to do their fucking job, blood.

Speaker 13 I expect returns. Yeah, I'm not getting my fucking returns, blood.

Speaker 3 Okay.

Speaker 13 Fucking fuming blood you understand but then like i said arsenal have an american owner man united have an american owner liverpool have an american owner chelsea having a russian owner but they are run by bruce buck who is a fucking american as well blood the only

Speaker 13 you have fucking joe lewis who runs totnum he's a fucking american not only is a totnamer makes him a prick he's a fucking american as well blood and then you have the only team that in there who is not American is Man City, who are owned by Arabs.

Speaker 13 Shout out my Arab niggas. Arab money.
But you understand,

Speaker 13 you and you, man, you can fuck your money as well, blood. You understand? So, when you look at the whole, the whole just of it, and then you see who's on the board, Joe Glazer, fucking American blood.

Speaker 13 You understand? It's you, man, blood. You man, I try to come over here and ruin our thing and turn our tink into your dead thing.
You understand? We're not having none of that, blood.

Speaker 13 We're not having none of that.

Speaker 13 NBA, NBA is a business, NFL is a business, football is a sport.

Speaker 3 Yeah, what about

Speaker 3 whatever it is? Yeah,

Speaker 13 it's a difference, blood. Yeah, I've had enough of this shit, blood.
Yeah, when I come back into Boston, niggas are gonna know the troops is back again, Rudboy.

Speaker 6 Back again, again.

Speaker 13 The time is over for the game. Time is over, blood.
Yeah, I've got that waiver.

Speaker 3 I'm coming back, motherfucker.

Speaker 6 It's very funny that, like, American sports owners are doing to European soccer, basically, what Megan Markle did to your entire royal family.

Speaker 3 Oh, big up, Megan Markle.

Speaker 3 Big up, Mega Markle.

Speaker 3 Prince Philip, sorry for your loss.

Speaker 13 I have to, I don't know about that, but um, R.I.P. to Prince Philip, I don't troll the dead.
R.I.P. to you, but big up Meghan Markle.
That's my dark. Black Lives Matter, you already fucking know.

Speaker 13 Gang business. Big up, man.
Like Harry, you get me? You could bun weed anytime, blah. Man, it's got them candy packs on.
Deck for you, my brother.

Speaker 6 All right, true. You get me? How quickly would you be?

Speaker 13 Max B as well, blood. Don't forget that, Blood.
Free Manning and Max B, Harlem, we in the building.

Speaker 3 Max B,

Speaker 3 we're original Max B.

Speaker 3 We have always been supporting Max B. Yeah.

Speaker 13 Come on, that's my man, baby.

Speaker 3 Yeah, no, that's our.

Speaker 6 Mr. Portnoy is a big Max B fan, too.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we love him.

Speaker 13 Portnoy's never been Harlem. You mad, Blood.

Speaker 3 No, Max B. No, no, you don't understand.
We have a long history with Max B.

Speaker 6 So, how quickly into Arsenal? Like, if they start to compete for a Super League title, you're going to be like, yeah, fuck yeah, Arsenal is the best.

Speaker 6 You're going very quickly hold the Super League trophy and put that in the trophy case with all the other ones that you have, right?

Speaker 13 Well, obviously, if we're in it, then I want to win it, innit?

Speaker 3 But I don't want to go in it. But I don't want to go in it.
Yeah, I don't want to go in it. Yeah, but obviously if we're in it, if we're in it, then I want to win it.

Speaker 13 But I don't want to go in it.

Speaker 3 You have to, I think, as

Speaker 3 such a public figure in the Arsenal community, I think you have to say that if Arsenal goes in the Super League, you're not an Arsenal fan anymore.

Speaker 13 No, but it's,

Speaker 13 I can't, it's, it's, it's mad, bro. Like, I love that club.
I follow them.

Speaker 13 There's a song, We All Follow the Arsenal over Landancy. You get me? So, I'm gonna have to follow them to even the song actually goes, well, watch this now.

Speaker 13 The song actually goes, We all follow the Arsenal over Landancy and Leicester, but I'm gonna have to change it to We All Follow the Arsenal over Landancy and the Super League.

Speaker 3 Yeah,

Speaker 3 I have to.

Speaker 13 It's like what they're doing.

Speaker 13 This is the fuckery now, isn't it? This is the fuckery of being involved from

Speaker 13 a fan point of view with your club, who's one of the six teams that have been, who have come out because Arsenal already announced it on their Twitter that they're one of the teams and

Speaker 13 they're going ahead with the proceedings. So for me...

Speaker 13 It's a catch-22 because I don't agree with it, but I've supported this team all my life, blood. blood.
Like, it's brought me some of the best memories of my fucking life, blood.

Speaker 13 Like, I've cried tears of joy. I've cried tears of pain.
I nearly fucking threw Big Cat through a window.

Speaker 3 Like,

Speaker 3 bro, like. You named your kid, Ashley Cole.

Speaker 13 Fuck yourself.

Speaker 13 But, like, it's,

Speaker 13 I'm emotionally attached to this team, blood. It's like one of my children, bro.
I can't, like, I can't, it's mad. I can't just let them go in it.
Like, it's, it's, it's, it's a fuck situation, innit?

Speaker 13 If they do it, which I don't know, from my point of view, I think it's going to happen, Macau. Money talks.
And JP Morgan saying he's going to put 6 billion into this team.

Speaker 13 And he's saying that every team that even accepts the invitation is going to get 435 million.

Speaker 13 And even they're saying that if you win the Super League, you're going to get more money than...

Speaker 13 like if you won the Premier League, the Champions League, FA Cup, any cup combined times it by two. That's what you win if you win one Super League, blood.
And money makes the world go round, bro.

Speaker 3 You understand?

Speaker 13 Money, if you have money, you have the power, blood. You understand?

Speaker 13 So

Speaker 13 I fear the worst, bro.

Speaker 6 Damn. So, what's the future of the EPL going to be after the Super League gets formed?

Speaker 3 Man like you, man like you,

Speaker 13 man like you winning leagues, blood. You're actually going to have you're actually going to have fucking trophies in your life now, blood.

Speaker 13 Normally, all you do is lift your missus onto your fucking face and do up your American business.

Speaker 3 Oh, no.

Speaker 13 But now, but now you can can't have

Speaker 3 do too much

Speaker 6 to win EPL titles.

Speaker 13 Yeah, Jamika always says,

Speaker 13 when I dive in, you see me.

Speaker 3 We dive away, black.

Speaker 3 Listen, I actually am happy we got you on because we do we have been trolling. Uh, yeah, I know you have.

Speaker 13 I see your tweets, you wank up.

Speaker 3 Hey, it's clear that this sucks. It sucks for you guys.
It sucks for if you're a sports fan, like, and this happened to anything you cared about, it would fucking suck.

Speaker 13 So, I actually understand how stupid this is and how they got to stop it how do we stop it then bro i put out a tweet and said like do we protest do we go to the training ground do we go to the stadiums everyone's on it but because like

Speaker 13 england's not open how america is in it like even new york is at 50 i heard that we can step out until midnight now so it's it's opening gradually london has literally just said that

Speaker 13 Shops are open so you can go to like foot locker and all of that now, blood.

Speaker 13 So apparently if you if you're seen protesting and court you can get you can get grabbed in it you understand you'll be doing like three troops of them thing there you get me so well you should probably hunger straight we believe like they know what they're doing bro they dropped it at the right time blood corona's here so you can't get out there's no fans in stadium so fans can't protest at games they it's all they're very smart when they've dropped it bro it's very strategic very strategic because if he was at the games If I was like, we got a game on Friday, blood.

Speaker 13 We're at a game today. I would have probably, I'm in the country, so I would have have been at the game, blood.
100%. I would have been at the game.
You understand?

Speaker 13 Home or away, I would have been there if I'm in the country. So we would have had banners out there like, fuck you, man, red, tear, tear, fuck the super league, super league out, da-da-da-da.

Speaker 13 Save the Premier League, save football. And now you're in a catch-22 because if you go on protest, you're going to get arrested.

Speaker 3 That's going to fuck up your record.

Speaker 13 What's going to go on then, blood? People got kids to feed. You understand?

Speaker 13 Mortgages to pay. They're fucking bastards, blood.
That's the word. They are fucking bastards, bro.

Speaker 13 You're ripping the soul out of a sport that is the most popular sport in the world blood like batter aside football is the biggest sport in the world blood you could go ask anybody in the world do you know christiano cristiano ronaldo or leono messi they'll say yes 100 they'll say yes blood you could go to the smallest country in the world and you'll find a cristiano jumper or a leono messi jersey you will find it blood you won't go to every country and find a tom brady or find a lebron like the biggest thing you have is lebron but you won't go to certain countries, and these men will not, they will not know LeBron.

Speaker 13 They will know Ronaldo. They will know Zidane.
They will know the legends of this game. You're trying to break something that's been going for fucking years, blood.

Speaker 13 Years, this thing's been going. And you pussyos think you can come over with your fucking billions and just ruin this thing.

Speaker 13 Football is for the working man.

Speaker 3 It's for the poor man.

Speaker 13 If you're being totally, brutally honest, blood. Football's a ghetto sport, blood.

Speaker 13 Football's the cheapest part, it's the cheapest item you can buy of

Speaker 3 sport.

Speaker 13 Tennis, racket, and ball.

Speaker 13 When you buy cricket, you got to buy the cricket bat. You got to buy the stumps.
When you buy the baseball, you've got to buy the baseball.

Speaker 13 The baseball fucking bat. You've got to buy the fucking helmet.
You've got to buy the ball. You've got to buy the pads.
Football, you literally buy.

Speaker 3 Literally, you put your trainers to buy a ball and you're gone.

Speaker 13 You're gone. Anyone can play that football.
Football's a multilingual sport.

Speaker 3 Football brings cultures together.

Speaker 13 It's your fucking bastards, blood.

Speaker 3 Don't say you. Why are you saying you?

Speaker 3 Why are you saying you?

Speaker 3 I mean, like,

Speaker 13 these men that are not, you know, a lot of you in it, blood. You know, a lot of you, lot, blood, you fucking trolls.

Speaker 3 Well, we are Super League fans, but yeah, not us.

Speaker 13 But it's just,

Speaker 13 it's heartbreaking.

Speaker 3 No, that sucks.

Speaker 6 Is it a possibility for there to be like an organized fan strike where you're like, listen, once the Super League starts, we're not going to go to games and we're not going to watch it on TV.

Speaker 6 Is that even a possibility? And then you like threaten people that are watching on TV and you call them scabs. And you're like, you can't watch this game.
You can take away all the money from them.

Speaker 3 And PFT is right. Like, football is the one.
Sorry, I just said football. Soccer is the one sport.

Speaker 3 You're getting into it now. No, no,

Speaker 3 you get me in my feels a little.

Speaker 3 You got me in my feels a little. But soccer is the one sport where you see fans

Speaker 3 come together unlike any other sport. So, I mean, could that happen?

Speaker 3 bro?

Speaker 13 Like,

Speaker 13 the power of love in it and the power of unity, blood, we need that now in it. You know what I'm saying? If the Super League starts, everyone, that's the only way I can see it going tits up.

Speaker 13 Is everybody just says, Yo, fuck this, man, ain't supporting this, man.

Speaker 13 Ain't buying no tops, man, buying no kits, man ain't buying no season ticket renewal, none of that, blood, man, ain't watching the games, man's gonna cancel the sky subscription, cancel the cable subscription, cancel all of that shit, blood.

Speaker 13 That's the only way that this thing's gonna stop. If you support it, then they're just man managing to run with it.

Speaker 6 What if we do a GoFundMe for

Speaker 6 literally every single team in professional soccer, and then they get money that they would have gotten? Or you just direct the money to the teams that are joining the Super League?

Speaker 6 Do you think we could get $400 million per team?

Speaker 13 No fucking way, bro.

Speaker 3 You know what we should do? We should do a GoFundMe, and then we should use all that GoFundMe money and play the lottery, and then disperse the winnings. That's smart.

Speaker 3 It's sorry that we have actual solutions to this problem. Last question, troops.

Speaker 13 How the fuck is that a solution?

Speaker 6 I think what has to happen: the only way out of this is just every JP Morgan bank in America gets robbed.

Speaker 3 I didn't say it.

Speaker 13 I didn't say it.

Speaker 3 Last question, troops.

Speaker 3 All right. Everything aside, because you are very passionate.
I'm happy we had you on. I agree.
Fuck the Super League. I'm even going to

Speaker 3 do you a solid. I'm going to change my Twitter handle back.
I was back again. I was Super League cat for about an hour.
I'm going to go back to Big Cat. But my last question is this.

Speaker 3 Just everything, let's throw everything out. Everything you said.
We agree.

Speaker 6 It's fucked up. It shouldn't happen.

Speaker 3 Just admit this. The name Super League is fucking sick.

Speaker 13 Nah, it's shit, bro.

Speaker 3 Because Super League, do you know why it's shit, yeah?

Speaker 13 Because

Speaker 13 you don't know about rugby, innit, blood. Yeah.

Speaker 13 The rugby league is called the Super League, bro.

Speaker 3 I don't fuck with rugby, blood.

Speaker 13 Rugby's some Poshman Ting fam. I don't deal with them thing there, blood.

Speaker 3 Rugby's the queen's sport blood i don't with that blood that's the man that played croquet and them thing there all of that

Speaker 13 that's her majesty and him nah none of that blood that's them lot blood man i'm on the other side blood you understand i'm on the other side boy you get me i'm on the other side i'm not even allowed on that side of the fence blood you get me they'll run they'll run me away blood you understand

Speaker 6 I'm sorry that you can't tackle somebody.

Speaker 6 That's what I hear from you troops is you just grew up not using your arms on anything. And you're like, you know what?

Speaker 3 I'll just break your leg with a two foot.

Speaker 13 I'll just break your leg with a two-footed blood.

Speaker 3 Simple.

Speaker 6 But seriously, Super League. The names you can't get any superer than the Super League.

Speaker 13 Nah, it's so American blood. See what I'm saying? You fucking Yankee man.
You just try to come over and just come out with your fucking

Speaker 13 European Super League. What kind of fucking bullshit niggas are?

Speaker 3 How about this?

Speaker 6 European Super League presented by Coca-Cola.

Speaker 13 Look, you see, presented.

Speaker 3 Is that just the view? Presented by McDonald's.

Speaker 13 Fucking dead fam.

Speaker 6 Yeah. Northrop Grumman presents the European Super League.

Speaker 3 Fuck that blood. All All right.
Well, thank you for joining us. We know it's late in England right now.
We're excited to see you next week

Speaker 3 and we appreciate it. And we're officially anti-Super League.

Speaker 13 Yeah, fuck Super League, blah.

Speaker 3 I'm going to use it. Fuck Crunky as well for you.
Dude, you tell me,

Speaker 3 we get a hashtag going. You tell me, I'll fucking start.
I'll tweet it on everything. Every tweet will have the hashtag.

Speaker 13 Hashtag find Cronky.

Speaker 3 No, he's a great American businessman.

Speaker 13 I'm done with you, love.

Speaker 13 I'm going to leave. I'm going to cancel the fucking stream, blah.

Speaker 3 All right, troops. We'll see you in a couple days.
All right. Nah, big up, man.
All right, lovely. Thanks, man.
See ya. All right.
See ya.

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Speaker 3 Okay, we're going to wrap up the show with an old thing that we used to do. It's been a few years, obviously.

Speaker 3 It is calling Marlin's Man at a game

Speaker 3 on Saturday Night Baseball while he's on the screen. Because everyone knows you watch Sunday Night Baseball, not for the teams, but for Marlin's Man.

Speaker 6 I don't even watch it when it's in Cleveland because you can't see the fans behind on it.

Speaker 3 Correct. Correct.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so Marlin's Man is there. This is actually the biggest nature's healing moment that I've had in a very long time.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Marlin's Man out there. Marlin's Man is out there.
All right, hopefully he picks up. Let's give him a try.
If he doesn't pick up, we'll do it again some other time. But let's do it.

Speaker 8 Mollinsman, pick up, please.

Speaker 3 What are we going to have him do?

Speaker 6 I mean, it's a 10-run game.

Speaker 3 He's still there, though. Also, a lot of wind, and just want to shout out A-Rod personally because he announced tonight's game with a broken heart.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 3 So I don't like to see you losers try to do that.

Speaker 6 Should we have him. Should we make a hand sign for fuck the Super League?

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah. What is it? I think it's just the middle finger.

Speaker 6 He won't flip. He He won't do this.
He's too classy.

Speaker 8 Yeah, he is too classy.

Speaker 6 Alright. The stool.
The stool will be the fuck.

Speaker 3 The Super League ski. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Alright, Billy's still drunk.

Speaker 3 He just started fucking his fingers.

Speaker 6 He's doing the interlocking thing and then open it up.

Speaker 6 Watch this, Billy. Watch this.
Ready?

Speaker 3 Moonshield wipers. Isn't that cool?

Speaker 6 You guys remember when this one was hot in the streets for a while?

Speaker 3 The uh...

Speaker 3 See the church, see the people? The... Wait, I can't even.

Speaker 3 What are you doing? Dude, you haven't done this.

Speaker 3 Are you trying to call him, Hank?

Speaker 6 This one.

Speaker 6 Can you do that?

Speaker 3 No, you're doing it. Can you do this upside down? Billy, why don't you give us an animal fact?

Speaker 6 Oh, no, it's like this one.

Speaker 3 Give us an animal fact. Might as well.
You can't do this.

Speaker 3 Marlins Man not picking up.

Speaker 6 Getting ducked by Marlins Man is a pretty low point. Yeah, this sucks.

Speaker 3 He's checked this phone multiple times.

Speaker 8 Marlins are different than Swordfish.

Speaker 3 No. How?

Speaker 6 Swordfish has never won a title.

Speaker 3 It's true.

Speaker 6 How are they different, Billy? Actually, they might be exactly the same.

Speaker 3 Yeah, they could be. But they could also not be.
All right, here we go. Here's the call.
Okay. Please pick up.
We're watching him on TV right now. He's shit.
He's got a, you know what?

Speaker 3 He's out of practice. He's directly behind the ump, which is a terrible spot for Marlins Man when people want to see him, us true fans.

Speaker 6 I've also noticed that he hasn't been on his phone as much as he used to be in the past. He used to just, he used to be like two cell phones.

Speaker 3 Oh, he's looking. He just looked.
He just looked. Pick up, Marlins, man.
Come on.

Speaker 6 Pick up Marlins. Don't send us a voicemail.

Speaker 3 Hi. Oh, no.

Speaker 3 He's on his phone right now. He's looking at it right now.

Speaker 6 I'm watching Marlins Man reject our call in real time.

Speaker 3 Brutal.

Speaker 6 It's your son, Marlinsman.

Speaker 3 All right. Hang up.
Oh, hey, Marlins Man. We're leaving a message.
We're taping part of my take right now. It's sad that you didn't pick up, but we'll get you another time, dude.

Speaker 6 We love you. Don't worry about texting.

Speaker 3 Yeah, don't worry about texting. Don't worry.

Speaker 3 Don't call us back. We'll call you.

Speaker 6 I'm sure we'll see you around.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but it's great to see you behind home plate. Feels like everything's back.
So

Speaker 3 love you.

Speaker 3 Numbers.

Speaker 6 Give me an 8. 18.

Speaker 3 Give me an 8. 92.

Speaker 3 Hank. Hank.
Hank. 36.

Speaker 6 Okay, this is big.

Speaker 3 What did you say?

Speaker 3 66.

Speaker 3 62.

Speaker 3 Another loser.

Speaker 8 Cats don't know algebra.

Speaker 3 Wait, you gave us the marlins and the

Speaker 3 twofer. Swordfish.
Twofer. I never listened to your animal facts.
Have you been mailing it in like that? Oh, wow. No, no, no.
Twofers.

Speaker 6 I think one was like elephants don't practice religion.

Speaker 3 No, no, no. Elephants do do

Speaker 8 elephants know religion.

Speaker 3 And now he's just doing this. What? What's this? Cats don't know algebra.
Do they? Right. We don't know that.

Speaker 3 Love you guys.

Speaker 3 Talking away.

Speaker 3 I don't know what I'm to say. I'd say it anyway.

Speaker 3 Today isn't my birthday to find you shining away.

Speaker 3 Oh, I'll be coming for your love, okay?

Speaker 3 Take

Speaker 3 on

Speaker 3 me.

Speaker 3 Take on me. Take

Speaker 3 me.

Speaker 3 Take on me of

Speaker 3 eager

Speaker 3 So needless to say

Speaker 3 I'm all just in

Speaker 3 spite

Speaker 3 Stonewind away

Speaker 3 Slowly learning that life is okay

Speaker 3 Say after me

Speaker 3 It's better to be safe than sorry

Speaker 3 Drink on the

Speaker 3 girl

Speaker 3 things that you say

Speaker 3 every little I fall justified worrying word.

Speaker 3 You are things I've got to remember. Be a shy annoy

Speaker 3 Well I'll be coming for you anyway

Speaker 3 Take

Speaker 3 on

Speaker 3 me

Speaker 3 Take on me

Speaker 3 Take on me I'll take

Speaker 3 on

Speaker 3 Take on me