Arkansas HC Eric Musselman, Cranky Jim Boeheim, And Burner Accounts
Loose Friday Show. Big Ben is a hero, more QB drama (2:26 - 11:01), Jim Boeheim is cranky and Billy tries to find PFT’s burner account (11:01 - 42:23). Arkansas HC Eric Musselman joins the show to talk March Madness, coaching philosophies, pumping his players up and more (42:23 - 63:43). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week
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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we're getting on the must-bus.
Speaker 1
Head coach of the Arkansas Razorbacks, Eric Musselman. Awesome interview with him.
It's March. We're feeling it.
Boeheim gets a little cranky.
Speaker 1 We have to, in fairness, rip Beheim as much as we ripped Coach K.
Speaker 1 We have Baker Mayfield seeing an alien. Big Ben is officially, officially back, taking a pay cut.
Speaker 1
Billy is going to find PFT's burner. It's going to be a little bit of a Friday, free form, free fun.
Have some fun, good vibes. Try to be nice to Billy.
Type of show. Good times.
Let's keep it loose.
Speaker 1 Let's keep it loose today, guys. It's going to be good times.
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You get 5% off your order. Today is Friday, March 5th, and Big Ben is officially, officially back.
Speaker 4 We love it, don't we?
Speaker 1
We have a lot of things to get to. Took a pay cut.
Well, okay. This is my favorite.
Speaker 1 This might be my favorite Big Ben move ever because he took a pay cut so the the the adam shafter tweet reads ben rothsberger willingly reduced his pay to 14 million dollars from 19 million dollars in his final year of his contract and spread the cash payment through 2022 per source it lowered the cap hit by over 15 million dollars also the team can make the right move to be as competitive as possible this season in ultimate big ben
Speaker 1 uh now he he he signed a long-term deal a few years ago right signed a big money contract but he signed a big money contract knowing he's going to get paid like $40 million when he was very old and at the end of his career.
Speaker 1 And now he's Hero Ball going to take a pay cut on the contract that he signed to get paid a ton of money when he was really old. This is the greatest thing that Big Ben has ever done.
Speaker 4 Yeah, what he should have done is he just should have negotiated like a different health plan from everybody else. So his co-pays would be higher and the company would have to pay less.
Speaker 4 That would be a good way to save some money if you're the Steelers. Big Ben is his pay cut, isn't really that drastic, but mostly so Big Ben can be like,
Speaker 4 I'm doing this for the benefit of the team.
Speaker 4
I care about you guys. I want to win.
Winning is more important than getting paid at the end of the day.
Speaker 1 It's the trade version, or sorry, it's the contract or pay cut version of throwing a bunch of interceptions in the first half, then leading your team to a miraculous comeback in the fourth quarter, and everyone's like, clutch.
Speaker 1 Well, they wouldn't have been in this spot. If he wasn't getting paid $40 million as like a 38-year-old.
Speaker 4 I got to be honest. If I were the Steelers,
Speaker 4
I don't know why people are excited about this in Pittsburgh. Is anybody excited? I've seen people say, It's good.
We're glad that he's coming back.
Speaker 4
And don't get me wrong, I'm very glad that Big Ben is coming back. That guy is like half of our brains at this point.
I don't know what I would do if he wasn't in the NFL.
Speaker 4 But if I was a Steelers fan, I would not be super thrilled about another year, Big Ben.
Speaker 1
I would be pretty ambivalent just by the fact that you have to find the future. The future is probably not going to show up tomorrow.
So I'd be okay with it. As long as there's...
Speaker 4 Russell Wilson goes there, maybe.
Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't see that happening. He wasn't on his short list.
Speaker 1
I do love Russell Wilson. I think he's on a yacht in the Caribbean and everything.
And every time they post a video, I just get tagged in a bunch. Is this Lake Michigan?
Speaker 1 Like a picture of him floating with sharks?
Speaker 1 And it's like, yeah, that actually is. That's exactly what Lake Michigan looks like in early March.
Speaker 1 Just look out your window. That's Russell Wilson.
Speaker 4 Something just occurred to me earlier today. How pissed would you be if you were Dak Prescott and Russell Wilson is out there like talking about your job?
Speaker 1
Well, Dak is going to get paid, right? He's going to get paid. It's going to happen.
It is weird because there's just so many moving parts right now with the NFL and the salary cap.
Speaker 1 And I still, for the life of me, the salary cap in the NFL is one of those situations where you could explain it to me a million times and then a team can do seven different moves and all of a sudden magically be out of salary cap health.
Speaker 4
Well, I'm a capologist. I've taken that assignment on this offseason to learn as much as I can about the salary cap.
Basically, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 The best line I ever saw about the salary cap in the NFL, I can't remember who said it, so apologies to whoever came up with it. It's like nailing smoke to a wall.
Speaker 1 Okay,
Speaker 1 that's heavy. You can't, like, there's, there's just, when you're trying to figure out the cap and trying to figure out, you know, oh, wow, we're so
Speaker 1 shooting pool with a rope. Yeah, it's like teams will go from under, you know, $20 million over the cap to magically, oh, they have a bunch of cap space.
Speaker 4 Yeah, the Saints, haven't the Saints been in salary cap-hell for the last three years?
Speaker 1 They just did something with their kicker today. It's like, oh, whoops, we just found some more coins underneath the couch.
Speaker 4
I also feel like the Rams have been in cap-hell. Yep.
But that's mostly because Sean McVay is like, it's weird because he treats the salary cap like it doesn't exist.
Speaker 4 He also treats the future, like future draft picks like they don't exist.
Speaker 1 Living for now.
Speaker 1 Living in the moment.
Speaker 4 We can all take some time to appreciate that.
Speaker 4
It's the Adrian Grignet picture. Sorry, I haven't been posting much recently.
I've been too distracted by the present.
Speaker 1 You're talking about
Speaker 4 Vinny Chase, bro. Vinny Chase.
Speaker 1 All right, so we have that. Big Ben is back officially.
Speaker 1 Baker Mayfield saw an alien. And I hate to do this.
Speaker 1 You know what? I'm not even going to say it.
Speaker 4 I thought Coward was actually kind of funny.
Speaker 1 Well, he was kind of funny. Like, if you...
Speaker 1
I got tagged. I'm going to see what he said.
Colin Coward basically was like, I don't like my quarterbacks pointing out aliens. That was funny.
That's a funny joke on himself. That's self-deprecation.
Speaker 1
I'm going to call it like I see it. I got tagged in it.
People were like, can you believe Coward? If you can't laugh at that, come on.
Speaker 4 Well, it was a situation where Coward knew that he had to bring some thunder today. Like everybody was expecting Colin Coward to have a take on the aliens, seeing Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 4
And he delivered in spades. He was like, I would prefer my quarterback, when he saw aliens, kept it to himself and didn't talk about it.
You think Tom Brady would talk about an alien?
Speaker 4 And I mean, hats off,
Speaker 4 hats forward to Colin Coward.
Speaker 1 It was funny.
Speaker 4
You knocked out of the park. It was a fastball.
Yes. You knew it was coming.
Everybody expected you to go yard, and you hit a dinger. So, congratulations.
Speaker 1
You got to call it, like, it would be unfair of us to just hate on that. It was funny.
I liked what he did there.
Speaker 1 He did also, he forgot, or maybe he didn't forget, but halfway through, he was like, yeah, Aaron Rodgers did also have an alien
Speaker 1 thing. And we also had...
Speaker 1 The Terry Bradshaw story,
Speaker 1 aliens exist. We all agree, right?
Speaker 1 Aliens exist.
Speaker 1
Aliens exist. Baker Mayfield, you probably saw an alien.
I totally believe you.
Speaker 1 The Terry Bradshaw story, where if you missed it, Terry Bradshaw in 1983, I want to say it was, went in for knee surgery and used a pseudonym so that no one would bother him.
Speaker 1 And the pseudonym was Thomas Brady. That is way crazier than alien.
Speaker 4 That's like Simpsons level stuff.
Speaker 1 That's Illuminati shit.
Speaker 4
It's really weird. Yeah.
So Terry Bradshaw, did he see aliens?
Speaker 1 No, I don't know. But the best thing is.
Speaker 4 Terry Bradshaw is so dumb. If he saw an alien, I would be like, okay, there was an exceptionally large raccoon that made its way onto his porch and Terry Bradshaw freaked out.
Speaker 1
That's my favorite part about this story is that Terry Bradshaw is so out of it and like drunk and he's, you know, he's living a life. I love Terry Bradshaw.
He's a funny guy.
Speaker 1 He's just, he's just having a good time.
Speaker 1 This happened to his own life.
Speaker 1 And we found out about it because someone pulled up an old newspaper, not because Terry Bradshaw was like, hey, I once went and got knee surgery and i used tom brady he forgot about he forgot about that completely yeah that would be like if uh if virginia tech won a national championship in 20 years about the hokies and uh and the quarterback's name was ron mexico yeah yeah right that's wild man right um yeah but we also didn't even know about the michael vick thing because that's the craziest part that we didn't even know it no one knew it and then all of a sudden it's a tweet and it's a newspaper article and terry bradshaw i'm sure if you asked him he's like i don't remember that no he doesn't remember like if you ask anything to Terry Bradshaw about his past, he's like the 70s, man.
Speaker 4
Yeah. 70s were a wild time.
But it would be the most Cleveland thing ever if they're coming off an 11-5 season. They've got a playoff win.
They have the coach of the year.
Speaker 4 They're favored to finish ahead of the Steelers in the division, and their quarterback gets abducted by aliens.
Speaker 1 Yes.
Speaker 1
Could happen. Could happen.
Could happen. But I do believe Baker.
I absolutely believe Baker. People who don't believe in aliens are losers.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 Straight up.
Speaker 4 Why would you willingly convince yourself that aliens don't exist? It's like betting the under.
Speaker 1 Sometimes I will think about space and it will actually hurt my brain.
Speaker 1 Like it actually does cause cramps inside of my brain where I'm like the expansion of the universe. What the fuck?
Speaker 4 I had a sweet thought when Baker tweeted that out last night.
Speaker 4 I like thinking about dogs. I'm like, what is because he said it was like a
Speaker 4 beam of light that was dropped down from above. I was like, what if that's
Speaker 4 Swagger One just trying to play fetch one last time?
Speaker 1 Just coming down for a quick game.
Speaker 4 Just dropping the ball.
Speaker 1 For a quick game.
Speaker 1
We also have Jim Boeheim. We have to mention this, Jake.
Jim Boeheim is very cranky. So if you missed it, Jim Boeheim, they beat Clemson.
Syracuse is a bubble team. They should get in.
Speaker 5 No,
Speaker 5 they were off the bubble, and now they beat UNC and Clemson in a 48-hour span, and they're still on the outside looking in. They need to do some work in the ACC tournament.
Speaker 1
Okay, so a reporter asked about lineups, and Jim Boheim responded with, I've been doing this for 45 years. I should have just had these guys in the lineup.
It would have been 22-2,
Speaker 1 and I need a reporter to figure it out who's never played basketball and is 5'2 ⁇ .
Speaker 1 Cranky-ass Jim Boeheim.
Speaker 5
The question wasn't about that. He completed the reporter, Matthew Gutierrez.
I went to school with him.
Speaker 1 Is he 5'2 ⁇ ?
Speaker 5 Not that I remember.
Speaker 1 Here's the problem, though.
Speaker 1
He didn't debunk it. I went on his Twitter.
He didn't debunk it.
Speaker 4 That's a a real J.
Speaker 4 He's not making himself the story.
Speaker 1 At least retweet someone who's
Speaker 1 not.
Speaker 1 This is what they do in Syracuse.
Speaker 5 He's a good ball player, too. He beat us in the Media Cup.
Speaker 1 Whoa.
Speaker 1 Everyone knows how important it is.
Speaker 4 Wait, the Media Cup.
Speaker 5 WAER, which is the student radio station.
Speaker 1 Isn't that just intramurals in Syracuse?
Speaker 5 I mean, they have intramurals, but we play in the dome. Got it.
Speaker 1
Big Jays only. Yeah.
But again, I assume Syracuse is just a bunch of big trays.
Speaker 5 The Daily Orange, which is their newspaper versus WAER, the historic student radio station
Speaker 5 in the dome one night every year, and he's a good player. He beat us.
Speaker 4 Who's better? Wait, let me guess. So it's historically.
Speaker 1 What position did he play?
Speaker 4 I don't remember. He just carved.
Speaker 1 He's a scorer.
Speaker 1 From where?
Speaker 1 I don't know. Outside?
Speaker 1 Yeah, he could shoot.
Speaker 4 So it's like, wait, it's the radio guys against everybody else? The writers.
Speaker 1 Okay.
Speaker 4 Definitely the radio guys.
Speaker 1 I mean, we lost that game.
Speaker 4 Yeah, I would take the radio guy off 10 times out of 10.
Speaker 1 Jim Bayheim, though, he's...
Speaker 4 Are you at an off-night?
Speaker 5
Yeah. Damn.
0-2 at the line.
Speaker 1 Nice.
Speaker 4 Make your great throws, Jake.
Speaker 1
Well, you played in the dome. Tough, tough shit to chop.
Yeah, exactly. Jim Bohem, though,
Speaker 1 he's definitely in the group with the coach K and just the older.
Speaker 1
Something about college basketball coach specifically when they get older. And he's...
I looked it up. Jim Bayheim's 76.
Speaker 5
Yeah, he was supposed to retire the same year I graduated, and then he extended. And now his son, Buddy, is still on the team for a couple more years.
So I assume he's going to ride that out at least.
Speaker 1 I think he needs to wear a sign being like, hey, I'm 76. So when I pick my nose or I get really cranky, like, listen, if this was the real world, I'd be retired sitting
Speaker 1
in my condo in Boca Raton. Did I say it right? Yeah.
Playing golf and like not driving after night, which that's not a joke.
Speaker 1 No, you shouldn't. Oh, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 They should stop. He did get a standing O, which was very weird afternoon.
Speaker 1 So it was bizarre, honestly.
Speaker 4 He battled back from tremendous adversity.
Speaker 4 So Boeheim is
Speaker 4 gotten more cranky. I think he hasn't been invited on part of the interruption as much recently.
Speaker 4 I used to get most of my Jim Beheim takes on PTI, and that's really the only time that I've ever seen him happy in his life is when he's talking to Tony and Mike.
Speaker 1 And Lovan definitely threw it.
Speaker 5 Oh, Medeal's better than New House.
Speaker 4
Yeah, and because Tony is like six foot three, he's a big, tall guy. He went to Binghamton.
He just respects Mass. He's like Billy.
Speaker 1
And Boheim. I'm pretty sure Beheim's only friends in life are just Coach Kaye and like Rick Petino.
They all just become friends with each other. Yeah.
Coach Beheim loves tall basketball. He does.
Speaker 1 He loves Coach.
Speaker 6 He's a big fan.
Speaker 1 Yeah. But he's also very cranky.
Speaker 4
So this is the difference between Beheim and Brady. Or not Boeheim and Belichick.
Belichick could get all that across, but he would do it in a subtle way.
Speaker 4
He wouldn't come out and be like, yeah, I'm not going to listen to you. You're a reporter.
You're 5'2 ⁇ . Like, Belichick would figure out a way to say that subliminally almost.
Speaker 4 Behind, he's not as creative, I don't think.
Speaker 1
He's just cranky. Yeah, right.
All he had to do was throw up
Speaker 5 that gummet, and it would come off as funny.
Speaker 1
That's Roy Williams. No one got mad at Roy Williams.
It is true.
Speaker 1 So,
Speaker 1 how much longer does Beheim coach for? He is a legend. I'm not saying he's not a legend.
Speaker 5 As long as he wants.
Speaker 1 As long as he wants.
Speaker 4 I agree with Big Cat, though. Like, if you're getting that old, you should make it apparent how old you are.
Speaker 4 He should be like using a walker on the sidelines with the tennis balls on the bottom of him.
Speaker 1 It's just crazy to think because you think coach, he's out there.
Speaker 1 Okay, you just, I think what happens is when a guy coaches for as long as Beheim has coached, they almost get trapped at a certain age.
Speaker 1
Like, he's been old for so long that you just assume he's the same, you know, somewhere in the mid-50s, late 50s, early 60s. He's 76.
So he should get a pass just by being 76.
Speaker 1 The fact that he's, you know,
Speaker 1 coaching
Speaker 1 is a miracle. I actually think that
Speaker 4 when you win a national championship, you just kind of stay that age in my own mind.
Speaker 4
74. 74.
So that's Coach Kay. Coach K, yeah, he seems like he's younger, but that's just the hair dies.
He's got
Speaker 1 anyone else who's far past retirement in any other profession. And this is a very like stressful profession that they're still in.
Speaker 1 So yeah, they need to just wear like, hey, just so you know, maybe, you know what? He just needs to have a life alert around his neck.
Speaker 1 A life alert around his neck at all times so that when you think about going at Bayheim and telling him, hey, the lineup should be different, he can just point to it and be like,
Speaker 1 You want me to fall on my way back to the locker room? Because you don't want to see that.
Speaker 4 Do you think that he purposely keeps air conditioning out of the carrier dome because he's so old and old people love that?
Speaker 1 That's the thing.
Speaker 1 I don't know if people know that.
Speaker 1 I don't know if people know that about the dome.
Speaker 5 Yeah, he's sponsored by carrier and there's no AC.
Speaker 1 He's always chilly.
Speaker 4 He doesn't want to pay that bill.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 4 Were you raised in a barn? I know.
Speaker 1
It gets hot there in the fall. It does.
It's a super. Oh, my God.
Good night.
Speaker 4 You know what? There's also a different type of hot. It's almost like an indoor humid that you get in a,
Speaker 4
especially like a gym. If there's a basketball court in the room that I'm in, that raises the temperature of the room at least 15 degrees.
Yeah. It just feels sweltery in there.
Speaker 1 So you defending him or no?
Speaker 5 I mean, I would like to support someone who I went to school with.
Speaker 1 So who, yeah, this is a rock in a hard place. A legend and a 5-2 point guard.
Speaker 1 Whoa.
Speaker 1 Oh, Jake.
Speaker 4 Respect the biz, Bayheim.
Speaker 5 Bayheim should not have gone after him.
Speaker 1 Okay.
Speaker 4 You got to write that column, Jake. Yeah, you have to.
Speaker 1 Yeah. Like, even though he's a legend, he needs to know the line.
Speaker 5 You guys put me on the spot there. I don't like having a polarizing opinion.
Speaker 1 Yeah,
Speaker 1 we know.
Speaker 1
But, yeah, there we go. That's Billy.
Where do you land on it? Let's see where Billy landed. Dude, if the kid was being a twerp, like, shut the fuck up.
But he was not. That's the thing.
Speaker 1
He was being a pro and being a good journalist. He probably was looking like a twerp.
And Beheim was just like, fuck you. He was a nerd.
He could sense a nerd.
Speaker 4 This is the John Clayton Sean Salisbury.
Speaker 5 He is the Syracuse Beat Reporter for the Athletic, a very big company, two years after graduating.
Speaker 1 That's pretty good. Beheim should have been like, hey, wipe that fucking nerd off your face before you ask me a question.
Speaker 1
He was looking at Beheim, like, trying to, like, be a twerp and try to, like, ask questions and get, like, answers. Uh-huh.
Like, probably, and he was just like, dude, fuck you. Like,
Speaker 1 perfect.
Speaker 4 He should have reminded Coach Beheim that he won the Media Cup when he was there. So actually, he knows Switzerland.
Speaker 1 I'm going to defend him a little bit.
Speaker 1 I went looking for his tweets, Matthew Gudrier. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 Someone did respond to one of his tweets with him shooting a three that was very smooth, nothing but net.
Speaker 5 That was the Media Cup. So there it is.
Speaker 4 That was the game, in the game? That was the game. Jake's like the Hunter Dickinson of Big J.
Speaker 4 You lost the Media Cup and then you lost to Hank and Ping Pong.
Speaker 1 What?
Speaker 4 Just a matter of years separated from each other. Yeah.
Speaker 5 I mean, yeah, I lost one game, but won a million others.
Speaker 1 Wait, are you meaning
Speaker 1 100? Sorry,
Speaker 4 we actually have to bleep that out because we're not allowed to say that.
Speaker 4 I'm in Duncan Robinson. Duncan Robinson.
Speaker 1 Yeah, you're the Duncan Robinson.
Speaker 5 You're the only person to lose it in the channels.
Speaker 1 Every different three different levels. How's it feel to lose it everything?
Speaker 1 All right, let's before we're going to find PFT's burner account. Maybe.
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Speaker 1 Billy, so if you missed Wednesday's show,
Speaker 1 first of all,
Speaker 1
shame on you. Wednesday's show.
First of all, shame on you. Go back and listen to it.
PFT
Speaker 1 ate the cheese again. He replied to Darren Revelle.
Speaker 1 So we thought the best way for him to overcome this issue was to create a burner account that he can anonymously tweet things, get them off his chest.
Speaker 1 But the key is, it's got to be anonymous because as soon as people figure it out, it ruins the whole idea that you're doing it anonymously and getting off your chest. So PFT has created the account.
Speaker 1
I have confirmed that he has created the account. I know what the account account looks like.
I don't know the handle.
Speaker 4 Jake knows the handle.
Speaker 4
Jake saw it. Okay.
And let me just say that the burner lifestyle is incredible. I highly recommend it to everybody.
And I issued an apology, but I want to say it again here.
Speaker 4
If I've ever gotten mad at you online when you're tweeting at me from your burner, I'm sorry. I didn't understand.
I didn't know about the burner lifestyle. Now I get it.
Speaker 4
I get it. Sometimes you just want to tweet things.
You don't even have to believe them necessarily. You just want to get it off your chest.
You just want to put it out there. and it feels great.
Speaker 4 So I am completely on board with the burner lifestyle right now. I might eventually just stop tweeting from my main account and just become strictly burner for life.
Speaker 4
So I get it. I understand that.
And I did issue a challenge to Billy.
Speaker 1 So yeah, explain this challenge.
Speaker 4 $1,000 of meat?
Speaker 4 So the challenge is if Billy can figure out what my burner account is, and I've been replying to major accounts, I've been tweeting, I've been, you know, I've been active on my account for the last couple of days.
Speaker 4
If Billy can figure out what my account is, I'm going to buy him $1,000 worth of meat. Okay.
So that's, Billy can break it down.
Speaker 4 I'm sure he'll find some ridiculous cut of meat that no one's ever heard of that probably doesn't actually
Speaker 4 have to be a bad thing.
Speaker 7 Billy $1,000 of meat at one time be a little excessive since he can't eat it all before it goes bad.
Speaker 1
Well, I'm going to buy and invest in a big freezer. Billy, text me that.
Text me your screenshot right now so I can look up tweets and
Speaker 1
follow along. So I can read out to people.
Same. Just put in the group.
Put in the group.
Speaker 4 And also, Billy,
Speaker 4
it's legal meat. So I'm not getting it.
I know you probably have done research and you're like, oh, actually, elephants have the highest amount of absorbable protein of any mammal.
Speaker 4 No, it has to be meat that you can purchase in a store here in the United States.
Speaker 1 Texas is just me and Hank. Don't Texas PFT, so he doesn't see it.
Speaker 4 So here's a rule. And if Billy doesn't get it right, I'm buying Jake $1,000 worth of suits.
Speaker 1 $1,000 worth of suits. And so if Billy gets it right, you're going to delete the account.
Speaker 4 If he gets it right...
Speaker 1 Delete the account. No, I said we'd bleep it and then he can.
Speaker 1 because i love having the burner yeah i just want i just want to prove i know it okay no actually tell you what if billy gets it right i will delete the account but i'm going to start a new burner but just do that in the shadows you don't even you don't even have to say that yeah right so we don't have to bleep it out so um all right so did you text it to me yeah i'm gonna read so i had nine selections i have one that i absolutely think is his which you have ten yes you have ten ten yeah i blew one yesterday okay let me pull it so why don't we read the one i gave yesterday
Speaker 1 that is not ready
Speaker 1 Are you going to go one to nine or
Speaker 1
nine to one? You're going to go nine to one to one. Which makes no sense.
Well, because if I go one and it's not it, then it's like,
Speaker 1
so we'll see. Well, then you can go back to the drawing board.
No, because
Speaker 4
he's out of time. Okay.
You have to be by five o'clock.
Speaker 1 I actually have 15 minutes.
Speaker 4 You do have 15 minutes, but you're out of time.
Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.
Speaker 1 The first one I did was...
Speaker 1 The first one is the worst guest ever. I can already tell it's not the worst guess.
Speaker 1
It's not the one that Jake guessed. Are we correct? Yeah, no, no, no.
Leroy Sodaburger is not it. Not it.
Not one of my guesses. Not it.
Speaker 4 That would have been the worst burner case.
Speaker 1 I know, but everyone was like, this is it. I'm like, no, dude.
Speaker 4 I could tell that Billy was hunting based off of what people were saying, I guess, on the Reddit because I was getting DMs from people saying, hey, the Reddit is talking about this being your account.
Speaker 4 No. And that's why Billy's asking.
Speaker 1
No, everyone was DMing it to me. I was like, no, it's not.
Okay. All right.
So here we go. Okay, not Leroy Sodaburger.
Speaker 4 Now you have eight left.
Speaker 1
No. Pick it up, Billy.
No, that wasn't one of my guesses. My first guess was Dan Snyder's bunner.
Speaker 4 No.
Speaker 1 Which it isn't. So now my nine start.
Speaker 4 Yep. Why did you even say Leroy Sodoburger?
Speaker 4 You can't just say names of accounts.
Speaker 5 In Billy's defense, he did say that was Jake's guess. Okay, I know it's not.
Speaker 4 All right, you have eight left. Okay.
Speaker 1 Number nine.
Speaker 1
John. Wait, no, no, I have nine guesses left.
Okay. This is your
Speaker 1
pruning something that should be fun. John Hancocker's.
No. And it's way wrong.
I mean, the first tweet is, ha ha, yeah, George Washington and I used to be best friends. Then I met P.
Kane88.
Speaker 1
Go to the tweets and replace it. That was February 28th.
Go to the replies.
Speaker 1 He wouldn't make me.
Speaker 1 Number eight.
Speaker 1 Not PFT commenter.
Speaker 4 That is not me.
Speaker 1 Okay.
Speaker 1 Of course it's not you. That would be the dumbest.
Speaker 1
Dude, I honestly, I think I... John also was started January 2020.
All right, keep it going, keep it going. Keep going, keep it going.
Speaker 1
No, but the thing is, I don't trust that he started in the month of March. Okay.
Keep it going.
Speaker 1 So you just wasted a pick, even though he told you this is exactly. Be Pipe Man.
Speaker 5 An account that was started this March. No.
Speaker 1 Okay.
Speaker 1 Number six.
Speaker 1 Steph Ruined. No.
Speaker 1 That one doesn't exist.
Speaker 6 Number five.
Speaker 1
Now we're getting to the ones that. Some of these don't exist.
No, they do.
Speaker 4
I saw some of that person's tweets because it's like Steph Curry ruined the NBA. Yeah.
And I just like that taking away.
Speaker 1
Wait, wait, I might have someone so confident last night. No, because I haven't gotten to the one.
Yeah, this is. Keep it going, Billy.
Speaker 4 Keep it going.
Speaker 6 Number five. Shut down.
Speaker 1 Caruso Stan.
Speaker 4 No.
Speaker 1 If you get it right,
Speaker 1 I'm already saying he's not going to get it. Number three,
Speaker 1 the inside source. No.
Speaker 1 Number two, no biased sports guy.
Speaker 1
No. You're not even close.
No, but this is the number one, and it'll explain my favorite. And it was invented.
I'm looking at the number one right now. It was invented in February.
Speaker 4 So, Billy, all right, here's what we're going to do. Billy, give me what you think the account is and your entire explanation why.
Speaker 4 I'll wait until you're done before I say yes or I shoot it down.
Speaker 1 So in the video, so this is the one I, once I found this one, I was like, I can't even look for it.
Speaker 7 Like, why would you put some of these even on the list?
Speaker 1 Yeah, because they're real knowledgeable sports guy. Yo, I put them all on the list because
Speaker 1
I literally need to find nine guesses. And I looked through hundreds of accounts.
All of them were too obvious. They were like, oh, fuck you, Darren Vell.
Oh, like.
Speaker 7 Like, real knowledgeable sports guy.
Speaker 1
Yeah, like some of them, like, I discounted all the ones that, like, gave a lot of evidence of being PFT. Okay.
And I was like, these aren't it. These aren't it.
Speaker 4
Like, I'm fucking with you. No, I.
Maybe I made it extremely obvious.
Speaker 1
You're like, it's no way. Okay.
All right. So, Billy, you're.
Speaker 4 So this is your final question.
Speaker 1
Watching the video, you said there's clues in the videos. We have a man wearing a cowboy hat, wearing a NASA t-shirt, reciting an apology speech in word for word, almost like J.J.
Watt.
Speaker 1 We had mentions of KD
Speaker 1 in the speech, and
Speaker 6 we had
Speaker 1 you used the word blast
Speaker 1 in the speech. Yep.
Speaker 1 This
Speaker 1 pointed me
Speaker 1 to mentions of Houston, Houston Rockets, NASA.
Speaker 1
I'm following you. I'm following you.
I found Scout Lizard created in February. Dem Boys fan forever.
Speaker 4 Not a Houston fan. Which was a Cowboys
Speaker 1 Houston Rockets fan.
Speaker 7 Or JJ Watt.
Speaker 1 Created in February.
Speaker 4 Are you done?
Speaker 1 Is it JJ underscore Watt?
Speaker 4 Congratulations.
Speaker 1 Oh! Jake, you're getting $1,000.
Speaker 1 Yeah!
Speaker 1 Dude, Billy, that account.
Speaker 1 I don't think that it exists. I don't think that it exists.
Speaker 1 No, it exists.
Speaker 1
I don't think it exists. It's right.
It doesn't exist. The one you made.
Speaker 1 Billy, that is the worst ass ever.
Speaker 4
Billy, I've been getting into arguments with people all day and my burner. It fucking owns.
It's awesome. I'm fighting with people.
Speaker 1 Blur that out.
Speaker 4 It's sick.
Speaker 1 Wait, can I actually see the name of it now?
Speaker 5 Can I show Billy and pull it up or no?
Speaker 1 No.
Speaker 4 It stays hidden.
Speaker 1 It stays hidden. It stays hidden if you saw the ABI.
Speaker 1
Okay, and you still won't find it. I don't think you gave me the correct information to find this thing.
I absolutely did.
Speaker 7 What does that mean? What information were you expecting him to give you? Okay,
Speaker 1 the things that he said do not line up to any of the accounts.
Speaker 7 You said JJ Watt and Kevin Durant, and then you picked a Cowboys fan account.
Speaker 1 Because he's wearing a Cowboys hat.
Speaker 7 Right, but what is JJ Watt and Kevin Durant in?
Speaker 1 Houston, Houston, Rockies.
Speaker 1 The Cowboys.
Speaker 1
He was a Cowboys and Houston. He He was a Cowboy, Houston Texan fan and Rocket fan.
So I
Speaker 1 even counted them Cowboys?
Speaker 1 I even...
Speaker 1 Did you read
Speaker 1 the fucking bio of the account? It was created in February. But who knows when I asked him if it was created in March,
Speaker 1
he was too sketchy. He wouldn't let me ask about that.
Well, I can't,
Speaker 1 he wasn't giving me anything.
Speaker 4 Listen, I even followed Billy from my account all day yesterday, and I didn't follow anybody else in this room, just Billy. So it would show up in his timeline.
Speaker 4 So I would give him a sporting chance at it. And I was in Revell's mentions.
Speaker 1 I actually discounted all everybody who's following me. Yeah, that was terrible.
Speaker 4 I was in Revell's mentions.
Speaker 1 I was in Shepherd's mentions.
Speaker 4
I was in Rap Sheets' Mentions. I was all over the internet yesterday.
I was getting into fights with people, even all day today.
Speaker 4 I even scheduled some tweets to go out while I was in the middle of the day. Okay, you know what? You can't still.
Speaker 1 You can't act like I'm a total fucking idiot because I couldn't find it.
Speaker 1
I did what I had when I was doing it. No, no, we're saying you're a total fucking idiot because half of your guesses were accounts created in February or 2014.
No, no, no.
Speaker 1
I doubt that the burners actually was created on when he said it was created. The burner.
Was it? Was the burner created on?
Speaker 1
Show me the burner. No, no, no, no.
So was it created on March 2nd or Big Cat 3rd?
Speaker 4 Big Cat's wrong because it was an account that I had never used before that was created earlier. That was created a year ago.
Speaker 1
So yeah, it wasn't fucking March. That's bullshit on his part.
Yeah, that is kind of a matter of time.
Speaker 1
No, it's fucking bullshit. Bill, it's bullshit.
You guessed like, no, no, it's fucking
Speaker 1 six accounts
Speaker 1 that were created, though. That's fucking bullshit.
Speaker 4 If you watch the video,
Speaker 1 no, big head, if you watch the video, I don't even want fucking money. I don't even want your fucking money.
Speaker 1 You're not going to get it. I don't want your fucking money.
Speaker 4 I never once tweeted from this account
Speaker 4 until yesterday.
Speaker 1 Yeah, and you had it since what, like, 2011? Fuck with Billy a little bit here.
Speaker 1 You did make it seem like you created it right after we talked about it. So I was thinking yeah, which is like that's what would have been.
Speaker 1 And I think Billy actually even asked, was it created in March?
Speaker 4 No, and I went out of my way to say that it wasn't, which is what Billy said.
Speaker 1 You said I've given you enough information.
Speaker 4 You were about to say a second ago, I don't think it was created in March because when I asked PFT, he did not give me that answer. So you knew
Speaker 4
that's why you get six different accounts. And I never tweeted from the account until yesterday.
In fact, I changed the handle. I changed the name.
Speaker 4 The only thing that was there to throw you off was the fact that it was created a year ago. But the first tweet came yesterday right after I tweeted.
Speaker 4 Right after I tweeted
Speaker 4 I've created a burner account.
Speaker 1 Was it Walter Cronkite's ghost?
Speaker 4 Nope. Okay.
Speaker 4
Nope. You can keep guessing.
No.
Speaker 1 I'm going to side a little bit with Billy, though, because you did make it. You implied that it was made right after we talked about it on Tuesday night.
Speaker 1 That's the only thing. I was expecting him to find ones that were in March.
Speaker 4 But he was telling you that that was wrong the entire time he was guessing, Big Cat. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1 I saw
Speaker 1 it if it wasn't.
Speaker 1 Billy, your logic was right and now you're saying it's bullshit yeah exactly exactly see i no like i haven't followed a lot but i had to stick at least i thought it was somewhere in the 2021 raid but then you picked the account from 2014 yeah and and big cat
Speaker 1 you can watch that you can watch
Speaker 4 2014 in the video i never say that no i started this account no but pft unfortunately you've now outed yourself as a liar you said you've never had a burner before now you've just said you have a burner uh no i created for a specific purpose but that purpose never came to fruition i was going to tweet a video from it but i ended up not tweeting a a video from that account.
Speaker 1 But that is a burner, as they say.
Speaker 4 I never tweeted on it.
Speaker 1 If it was under oath, you'd have to say that. Anyway, I'm sorry that I would like to apologize to the AWLs that this has been tarnished as a very healthy conversation.
Speaker 7 I'm sending you the answers.
Speaker 1
They weren't sending you. In the end, we all.
No, no, I was.
Speaker 4
I'm fucking loving this burner account life. Jake, congratulations.
We'll have you select some suits.
Speaker 1 You can probably get.
Speaker 5 You'll get it to rock some new suits on the broadcast.
Speaker 1 Maybe some European cuts.
Speaker 1 Chinese Italian. You get probably nice.
Speaker 1 You should get a pinstripe suit.
Speaker 5 I was thinking, maybe you wanted to honor Craig Sager, little funky one.
Speaker 1 Okay.
Speaker 4 What does that mean for you?
Speaker 1 What?
Speaker 4 I don't know if you're a funky suit guy.
Speaker 1 They just gave the meanest look.
Speaker 4 You're a.
Speaker 1 I didn't give a look.
Speaker 1
You're talking about funky suits and he's known for wearing funky suits. You're like a.
Craig Sager has, like, hasn't he been canceled post? No. No, I didn't pull post.
Speaker 1 All right.
Speaker 4 Jake, you're a funky socks guy. You could pull off like
Speaker 4 fun sock, like a bright colored sock.
Speaker 1 All right.
Speaker 1
I'm actually very happy for Jake. Yeah.
No, you aren't. That was the maddest I've ever seen.
Yeah, dude.
Speaker 4 Your neck was popping when you were.
Speaker 1
You were about to fight Jose Kinsey. I was mad.
You cheated me. I'm happy for Jake.
Billy, you're logged in.
Speaker 4 Hey, Hank, why are you so worked up about this? I'm not.
Speaker 1 No, he's not. But, Billy, so
Speaker 1 if anything...
Speaker 1 Hank and I thought that
Speaker 1 PFT created in March, but it's clear that you were following along that it wasn't created in March. Yes.
Speaker 1 well, I looked through, I started looking in March, I looked through over 100 accounts and looked for everyone.
Speaker 1 That's a lot of work.
Speaker 4 I was following you from the account.
Speaker 1 I know.
Speaker 4 Didn't follow anybody else at this company?
Speaker 1 Do you still follow him?
Speaker 4
No, I haven't followed him today. His tweet sucked.
I got sick of seeing Billy pop up in my timeline.
Speaker 1 Yeah, should we talk about your stupid day drinking tweet real quick?
Speaker 4 Actually, I thought that was a pretty funny tweet.
Speaker 1 It was funny, but it was funny.
Speaker 1
No, no, it was a joke. Lamar Odom, Clippers? He's on crack.
It's hilarious.
Speaker 1 What part of the pullers?
Speaker 4 Piccat just doesn't understand comedy.
Speaker 1 What's the funny part? Addiction? No, it's just like if you're a crazy. Crack epidemic.
Speaker 7 You said he got addicted to candy. That's funny.
Speaker 1
No, no, no, he was died. He was addicted to crack.
His heart stopped. Explain how that's funny.
Boner pills from the gas station.
Speaker 4 He also smoked crack, I believe.
Speaker 1
So explain how that's funny. Stephen A.
Smith is allowed to yell at
Speaker 1
me. Stay off the weed? No, he yelled.
He was on crack.
Speaker 1 You're getting into murky territory. I don't think I like that.
Speaker 4 I don't think Stephen A.
Speaker 1
Smith was making fun of it. That was hilarious.
It's hilarious. That clip's hilarious.
Yeah. So that's why you're in the middle of the day.
So you would wear it because you'd be like, he was on crack.
Speaker 1
That's the funny thing. No, no, but like he's a hard part.
He actually plays for Jerry.
Speaker 1 You're wearing...
Speaker 1
To Dardy's, you do not wear your nice jersey, your formal jersey. You don't wear your Nard jersey.
You wear your like. I'm here to have a good time jersey.
I'm here to do crack.
Speaker 1 That's where you whip out your Browns Johnny Manzel, not your Texas AM Johnny Manzel.
Speaker 1 No, but the only reason I was upset about the Lamar Odom is every other jersey that Lamar Odom has worn is significantly better than the Clippers one. Lakers, Heat,
Speaker 1 URI,
Speaker 1
like those are all fire. That's why you don't wear them to the Darty.
The Darty, you're going to end up getting it muddy.
Speaker 4 You change it to something nice.
Speaker 1 You don't put it in
Speaker 1 the URI Odom URI. Like
Speaker 1 when you're going to
Speaker 1
a steakhouse. Like a formal.
Beating your girlfriend's parents. Yeah.
Speaker 1
Okay, got it. That makes sense.
What do they call the fat and sorority?
Speaker 7 The mixers?
Speaker 1
When you're at a mixer. Yeah, right, right.
And what about the Lakers? The Lakers one is also, you don't wear your, or going to a game.
Speaker 4
That's a Marty. That is.
You wear the Lakers one to brunch. No.
Switch over to the Clippers one for the Dardie. And then you change into your Plaxco Burris for the nighttime.
Speaker 1
But you go to the game, like, you wear your good jersey to the game. Yeah.
Yeah. So,
Speaker 1
okay. David Bactiari, the beer-chugging champion of the NFL.
Green or white?
Speaker 1 Green because you're probably getting grass stands on that road.
Speaker 4 Do you think it's it's inappropriate to make fun of someone like Lamar Odom, who actually died and came back? Like, you're making fun of him post-mostly.
Speaker 1
No, he's alive. Yeah.
He did die. Yeah.
But he came back.
Speaker 4 So second life. I don't know.
Speaker 4 I agree to most of your list, actually. I thought there were some sick jerseys.
Speaker 1 I mean, I'm very glad Lamar is.
Speaker 1 It's a funny list.
Speaker 4 It was good.
Speaker 1 It got a lot of fun. They're not the best.
Speaker 1 They're not the best jerseys. They're the jerseys you go darty in.
Speaker 4 So the Paul Rabel jersey you're wearing right now, that's an old one because he's no longer on the Atlas. I don't know if he kept up with the news.
Speaker 4 Is that a Darty jersey? Because it's old?
Speaker 1 It's a throwback jersey. Yeah, yeah, it's a Darty jersey.
Speaker 4 And then you switch to
Speaker 1 the Cannons jersey
Speaker 1 when you're going to a formal gotcha.
Speaker 4 Okay.
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Speaker 4 And now, here's Coach Eric Musselman.
Speaker 1
All right, we now welcome on a very special guest. We've been circling him for a while.
It's been, you know, usually right around now we get all the way into college basketball on this show.
Speaker 1 So we thought it was time time to get on the must-bus.
Speaker 1 It is Coach Eric Musselman, head coach of the Arkansas Razorbacks, former coach of Nevada, which I have to shout them out because I fell in love with you there. But Coach, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 1 We appreciate it. Do you feel, can you feel the energy that this is March?
Speaker 10
Yes, I can, big cat. Thanks for having me on, number one.
But yes,
Speaker 10 we can feel that the calendar has turned to March. And I think that, you know, our guys right now, when they come to practice, it's kind of a different feel.
Speaker 10 You know, it's almost like, you know, towards the end of your senior year in high school, when you kind of get spring fever and everybody's starting to get a little bit, you know, more energized, you know, for the end of school, that's kind of what we have in March is, especially if you're playing well, there's an added excitement for sure.
Speaker 4 So your team right now, let's just say hypothetically, they faced off against your team from back in November. Like over a typical season,
Speaker 4 what do you expect to see in terms of improvement? And like on this team in particular, how badly would these Razorbacks beat those Razorbacks?
Speaker 10 This current Razorback team playing in March would probably beat our November Razorback team by about 15 to 18 is
Speaker 10
what I would roughly guess. We're more confident.
You know, our roster was built. uh really unique with four incoming freshmen three grad transfers
Speaker 10 um two guys that sat out last year in their transfer year when they were here, and the two returners. So it's kind of this, you know, mismatch of guys.
Speaker 10
And so it took us a little bit of time to feel comfortable on both sides of the ball. But right now we're really sharing the basketball.
We had 305 passes in our last game against South Carolina.
Speaker 10
So the ball was moving. The ball had eyes.
It was like popcorn from one hand to the other. It didn't get sticky.
And we didn't have anybody dribbling and killing grass.
Speaker 10 So there was a lot of good things with our ball movement and sharing the basketball.
Speaker 1 So I want to get back to the transfer thing in a minute, but let's talk about the passes and your philosophy because I love this. I love talking to coaches and figuring out how they see the game.
Speaker 1 You demand your team basically passes over 200 times a game, and it's playing fast. And then also, can you explain
Speaker 4 what a perfect
Speaker 1 game looks like offensively and defensively and what you really push? Like, this is what we need to do well. And if we do these things well, we'll win.
Speaker 10 Well, I think the number one thing for us offensively is like, don't turn the ball over. You know,
Speaker 10 I love studying football coaches. And obviously, in football, the turnover battle is such an important factor in wins and losses.
Speaker 10 And in basketball, we want to try to have under nine turnovers in a 40-minute college game. That's number one.
Speaker 10 And then it's so important on the defensive end to try to control the defensive backboards.
Speaker 10 And then offensively, as I flip back to that side of the ball, free throws attempted has been something that's really important.
Speaker 10 Because if you have a high volume of FTAs, that allows your half-court defense to get set up. The other team can't run on you.
Speaker 10 But live ball turnovers are a killer in college basketball because those usually end up in layups or dunks at the other end.
Speaker 4 Yeah.
Speaker 10 And when it comes to the passes, have you found that having over 200, is that kind of the magic number that statistically correlates like to a higher percentage of victory or a more efficient offense yeah we actually got the philosophy uh myself and and coach anthony ruda and and hayes myers and and and my son michael had gone to to the warriors training camp and steve kerr was really emphasizing uh passes and and so we took the number that that the warriors were using at that time in a 48 minute game and tried to formulate it into a 40 minute game with a little bit longer shot clock And so that's how we actually came up with the 200 passes.
Speaker 10 But we found if we move the ball 200 plus passes, we're not going to lose many games. And then the games that we play really poorly offensively are usually our lowest passing games.
Speaker 1 So I'm always curious, you guys play fast, and I love watching. I've watched a lot of Arkansas this year
Speaker 1 because I'm a fan of you and I'm a fan of Anthony, who shout out Anthony, who is your right-hand man on staff. But
Speaker 1 how do you
Speaker 1 get the guys in shape where they can play fast all the time? I'm always curious about that.
Speaker 1 When the teams are able to push tempo on everyone, how much of your practice is like, hey, this is all just conditioning and training and not actually shooting a basketball and dribbling a basketball?
Speaker 10 Well, it's interesting because we really believe that it starts
Speaker 10 in the summer in our offseason.
Speaker 10 We always do a mile run where our guards have to do it under 530, our wings have to do it under 540, and our bigs have to do it under 550.
Speaker 1 Oh my gosh. Wait, Connor Van Over ran under 550?
Speaker 10 Hold on, big cat. He's the only one that I gave a pass to.
Speaker 1 So, for people who don't know, he's like 7-1.
Speaker 10 I don't think Connor could do it under 12 minutes, let alone under 6.
Speaker 10 Sometimes you got to give a guy a pass just because it's, I mean,
Speaker 10 it's stupid to even have have him go out there and try to run the mile. So, um, and then getting back to this fast style of play, really interesting.
Speaker 10 When I, when I was my father's assistant with the Minnesota Timberwolves in those first couple years of the T-Wolves' existence, we played really methodical and slow. And I just said, you know what?
Speaker 10 When I become a head coach, I want to be cosmetically pleasing.
Speaker 10 You know, maybe that lets you keep your job a little bit longer than if you walk the ball up the floor and play at a slower pace.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 4 Do you realize how insane that sounds to just a regular person though? Like five minutes, 30 seconds for a mile.
Speaker 1 But that would be like 6-2, 6'3. I'm always fascinated by that pain.
Speaker 4 Like I got shivers just thinking about having to run that quickly. But yeah, because every team has a conditioning program, right? Every team has to be in shape.
Speaker 4 So does it come down to like, hey, our standards are just going to be a little bit higher than everybody else's standards?
Speaker 4 Or is there, you know, more of a measured scientific approach that goes into it where you're like, here's the type of conditioning we need to work on, whether it's a mile run as opposed to working on, I don't know, like a three mile run?
Speaker 10 Yeah, no, I mean, I think like the mile run is really as much as anything, it's just kind of a mental test for us, as well as physically.
Speaker 10 But then if anyone comes to our practices, there's no standing.
Speaker 10
You know, we don't, we usually go. uh under two hours every practice most practices only an hour and maybe 30 minutes on the floor but nobody's standing.
There's drill work, there's station work.
Speaker 10 And we believe, you know, even this week, last week of college basketball season, there's going to be conditioning built into our practice. It might be shooting conditioning.
Speaker 10 It might be defensive slide conditioning, where you try to work defensively to try to,
Speaker 10 you know, play the whole shot clock out. So
Speaker 10 I think you've got to continue to not only work on your skill development throughout an entire college season, but you've also got to work on your conditioning daily as well.
Speaker 1 So I know that you're a gym rat yourself. What can you run the mile in?
Speaker 10 With my now healed
Speaker 10 torn Achilles, I'm going to say I could probably I could run it under nine, I think.
Speaker 1
Oh, you're, that's, that's humble. I've, little birdie told me that you spend every single day, no matter what, two hours in the gym, an hour cardio, an hour weightlifting.
Is that true?
Speaker 10
That is true. I know nobody's got more endurance than me.
I don't know how fast I can run it anymore, but
Speaker 10 certainly from from a uh you know endurance standpoint i can hang with anybody right he runs he runs nine minute miles but he runs six of them yeah
Speaker 4 right i'm sure right keep going i i also heard that you listened to part of my take when you're putting together game plans or you're breaking down film um that's a great strategy first of all uh second of all what insights have we given you into setting up your game plans by just by osmosis listening to our voices while you're mapping this stuff out i think i get a lot i've uh you know because Coach Ruda is always listening as well.
Speaker 10 Sometimes even I'll listen to you guys laying on this couch right here in my office two hours before game time for relaxation.
Speaker 10 Could be, can you guys spur a motivational idea that we can somehow twist around and use?
Speaker 10
And amusement as well. You know, you got to go into a game like, you know, with a fresh mentality.
So part of my take without a question is part of our daily routine here at Arkansas.
Speaker 1 I could imagine you just listening and getting frustrated at Billy and then having a bad game because
Speaker 1
you're just holding that negative energy. So you do do a bunch of different things.
I love when you use wrestling, you know, whether it be Ric Flair, The Undertaker, or Daniel Bryan.
Speaker 1 You're also the recruiting with the pictures. So you started that, what, two years ago? Was that when you started doing so?
Speaker 1 For people who don't know, Coach Musk, when a recruit comes through the building, he'll take an iconic basketball picture with them, whether it be like Dwayne Wade
Speaker 1 doing the stance where LeBron's dunking behind him or whatever it may be. Have you done the Jeff Van Gundy? I know I gave you that as a tip.
Speaker 1 Have you done the Jeff Van Gundy holding on to like, I think it was Alonzo Morning's leg?
Speaker 10 I think when you gave me that idea, Big Cat, it was right around the time when we stopped the visits. But as soon as we get through this pandemic, I'm definitely going to grab a recruit's leg
Speaker 10
as coach Jeff Van Gundy did. Because you know, we're about the the same size.
We're both about 5'6,
Speaker 10 146, 147 right in that weight class range. So I'm gonna I'm definitely gonna you know do that picture with some recruit.
Speaker 10 And it's interesting because the first time we did it, I kind of flipped the ball to a recruit and just got in a defensive stance. And the recruit said, hey, this reminds me of such and such a scene.
Speaker 10 And then I said, hey, let me go throw a uniform on and let's recreate it.
Speaker 10 And so that's how it started. And then every time a guy came on a visit, he would say, hey, can we recreate this particular scene? Whether it was Iverson stepping over Ty Lou or whatever it may be.
Speaker 1
The new bowl you had was great. I have two for you.
So I have two new ones for you.
Speaker 10 All right, I'm listening.
Speaker 1
Lance Stevenson blowing into LeBron's ear. Great one.
That one will be very funny if you can recreate that.
Speaker 1 And then also, I think you should recreate the 2003 draft photo with like Kirk Heinrich's pants
Speaker 1
and everyone's baggy suits. Maybe get a couple suits and have everyone play dress up.
That would be very funny.
Speaker 10
Well, I can get a baggy suit. I can just ask Coach Ruda.
He wears a little bit bigger suit than me, so I can just grab one out of his closet.
Speaker 10 And I'm sure it's not up to date as far as style goes either. So now I just got to have the recruit find one that works for him.
Speaker 4 Yes.
Speaker 4 I've got three for you.
Speaker 4
The first one is, actually, yeah, I got three. Draymond and Kevin Durant.
When Draymond is talking Kevin Durant up, like giving him that motivational speech. Make it a gift.
Yeah, make it a gift.
Speaker 4 Oh, even better. Yes.
Speaker 1 Now we're innovating. Now we're innovating.
Speaker 4
The second one is Alan Iverson crossing up Jordan. I think that'd be great.
Plus, that would give people an excuse to compare you to Michael Jordan. Or maybe you could be AI.
I don't know.
Speaker 4 And then the third is the Jeannie Buss cover where she's just covering up her private parts with basketballs.
Speaker 1 That would be good. I think that would get a lot of recruits in the door.
Speaker 10 You guys are helping with the idea. The ideas are flowing right now.
Speaker 10 We got our whole staff in the background over here taking notes of this conversation.
Speaker 1 So I did want to,
Speaker 1 you touched on it, the transfers.
Speaker 1 You're very fascinating with your recruiting because you,
Speaker 1 you know, at Nevada, it was a lot of transfers, a lot of junior college guys. People said, hey, the big bugaboo is, can you recruit? You come to Arkansas, you get some great freshmen.
Speaker 1 How does does it work when you're looking for transfers or junior college guys? Like, what does that process look like? Because I think we all know, you know, Cal or
Speaker 1 Coach K, they're going to get the five-star recruits. How do you find these like diamonds in a rough? I mean, if you remember the Nevada teams, the Martin Twins, like that, that was great to watch.
Speaker 1 So, how do you find those guys?
Speaker 10 Well, the first thing when a guy goes in the portal is, you know, you've got to evaluate the player both statistically as well as on video.
Speaker 10 But then we've kind of come up with a formula here where if a player is a low major player and he's transferring up, what those stats will kind of correlate to.
Speaker 10 And it's kind of like
Speaker 10 we spent some time with the Texas Rangers and their minor league guys, as well as people on the parent team, just to try to figure out like, how do they project like a single A.
Speaker 10 double A, triple A player to the major leagues. And that's really what you're doing when a guy's transferring up is you're trying to figure out, you know, like how much can his game grow or
Speaker 10 basically translate to a power five level. And I think for us, you know, we had it really down to a science at Nevada through the four years.
Speaker 10
And then when you go from a Mountain West program to an SEC program, now your formula has got to change. And so we're still working.
to try to come up with, we look at a guy's rebounds per minute.
Speaker 10 You know, what is that going to correlate if a guy's coming from the Sun Belt to the SEC from a rebounds per minute?
Speaker 10 And then the easiest thing, you guys, from an evaluation standpoint is a player's three-ball percentage as well as their free throw percentage, because there's very little wiggle room in those when a guy has a body of work, which is really why we got so heavily involved in transfers is they had a body of work at the collegiate level.
Speaker 10 And then in our recruiting meetings, we translated that to, hey, that's no different with an NBA team.
Speaker 10 You can either have a draft pick and there's high risk, high reward, or you can go the free agent route where you know what the guy is going to give you.
Speaker 10 And that's how we equated transfers to like an NBA free agency.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 4 That's interesting.
Speaker 1 Yeah, because that's like almost one of those money ball type market inefficiencies where if you can figure out how to be better at that than everybody else, especially when you, when you do, you're you're not going to get, you know, I mean, you have, I mean, you have a draft, you have guys on your team that are going to play in the NBA, but not everyone can be Coach Cow and Coach K and get, you know, a bunch of NBA players every single year.
Speaker 1 Yeah,
Speaker 4 I also heard from Jake Marsh. He's not in here right now because he's actually, I don't know if I should say this to you, but he's interviewing Alabama's head coach right now.
Speaker 1 Oh, man.
Speaker 4 Do you have anything that you'd like me to pass along to Coach Oates?
Speaker 10 Not really.
Speaker 1
Yeah. Okay.
No, but
Speaker 1 you know, we just full disclosure, we are Tom Creen guys. That's okay, right?
Speaker 10 No, hey, that's
Speaker 1 in the SEC. Okay.
Speaker 10 He and I text almost every day.
Speaker 1
Perfect. We love Coach Cream.
Yeah.
Speaker 4
Perfect. And Jake told me before he abandoned you on this show that your mom actually helps you write scouting reports about other teams.
Is that true?
Speaker 10 Well, my mom actually, I should, she really critiques me.
Speaker 10 So she'll send me letters, handwritten letters, actually put them in the mail and kind of do a post-game report or a post-game eval on our team, as well as me.
Speaker 10 She will tell me, why did you call this timeout? Why did you not call a timeout?
Speaker 10 I don't think that your guys executed baseline out of bounds at the 1142 mark of the first half, but she's been around the game for a long time.
Speaker 10 long, long time, probably knows as much as a lot of assistant coaches at the collegiate level, to be honest with you. She might know more than half the guys.
Speaker 4 That's That's awesome. Is she able to get, you know, like very serious with you?
Speaker 4 Is she able to like put some, like, really speak her mind to you, or does she have to still sugarcoat it because you're her son? Does she have to be nice?
Speaker 1 No. My mom's, she's tough.
Speaker 10 Like, she's not sugarcoating anything. She's coming straight at me with really what she believes.
Speaker 1
That's, I mean, yeah, she, she can give you the honest truth. What are you going to do? You're going to stop being her son? You can't do that.
So
Speaker 10 it's the perfect person to give you that criticism i gotta be really nice too i mean she lives right above la jolla beach and tennis club in san diego and she's got extra bedrooms so i got to make sure that i stay in good graces so that i can go there hang out with her head down to la jolla shores jump in the water maybe ride some waves and then go back for a nice dinner at her house so we're going to keep everything really running smooth with uh with any evals that she gives me well next time she's mean just send her a picture of her grandkids and be like you sure you want to do this because that will be that's the weakness right always
Speaker 10 that is the weakness um all right well so i my last question uh is your pregame speeches getting guys fired up where do you draw like inspiration when you're trying to how do you how do you keep it different how do you keep it new and what's maybe your favorite pregame speech you've given Well, it's funny because we were just at lunch and we were talking about like, what are we going to do for Texas A ⁇ M this weekend, which we haven't come up with an idea because you really got a plan for instance um you know we did a ups delivery um one the other day a few games ago where i dressed up as well as staff members in ups uniforms we handed the players boxes they had to open up the box and then it had a message for each player that was a different message it might have been one guy had to rebound the ball another guy had to take care of the the the ball um and so that was fun because the players now,
Speaker 10 so at the 40-minute mark, I go in,
Speaker 10 I review our last game prep. It takes about seven minutes.
Speaker 10 And then at the end of that, it's when I do, you know, some type of fun message, but it's got kind of what the theme has been leading up to the game.
Speaker 10 But we got a plan, you guys. Like we have, we bring in props, we bring in uniforms,
Speaker 10 and it's fun.
Speaker 10 You know, I did it with the Warriors my first year in Golden State, and we were on a back-to-back in Denver. Denver's a long travel airport's far from
Speaker 10 the NBA hotels downtown by the arena. And one of the players, after I got done doing the pregame, said, coach,
Speaker 10
we're not leaving until we get one of your motivation things. And I didn't have anything prepared.
And the funny thing,
Speaker 10
it was Danny Fortson, who I didn't really play many minutes. And he was the last guy that I thought would have wanted any pregame message.
So we have fun with it.
Speaker 10 To me, it's a way to kind of loosen up the guys before they go out for their last warm-up.
Speaker 1
So I have a tip for you for Texas A ⁇ M. We also are friends with Buzz Williams.
You should play the clip.
Speaker 1
We made a video with him a couple years ago, the Buzz Williams Basketball Academy of Hard Work and Toughness. And he coached us up.
And we looked terrible.
Speaker 1 So you should basically be like, this is what you, when you guys play poorly and play the video and be like, you don't want to look like this out there because it's really bad.
Speaker 10 That's That's a good idea. If we don't use it pre-game, we will definitely use it leading up to the games, meaning the day before.
Speaker 10 That's a good one.
Speaker 10 We can weave that in for sure.
Speaker 1 I'll text it to Anthony. It's a,
Speaker 1 yeah, we looked really, really bad.
Speaker 5 Pretty bad. I think.
Speaker 1 Yeah, the PFT was a full suit.
Speaker 4
I was in a suit with rec specs. I think the best person that we were with was a pregnant lady.
So, yeah,
Speaker 4
it was not a great look for us. But if you ever run out of ideas and you need something at the last minute, just pull a Coach O.
Just go out and get a worm from the ground. Yep.
Speaker 4
And just eat a worm and be like, we're ready, boys. And then no one questions the guy that just ate a worm.
It's like, that guy's crazy. Let's go to war.
Speaker 10 It's a good point. I love it, PFT.
Speaker 10 I'm going to keep that worm one in the back of my mind in case we ever forget one.
Speaker 1
Yes, yes. Well, Coach, best of luck.
We're riding the must bus.
Speaker 1 Best of luck in the SEC tournament coming up in March Madness. We'll be rooting for you, and we appreciate your time.
Speaker 10
No, I appreciate it. Big Cat PFT, thanks for having me on.
Love, pardon, my take. Thanks for including me.
Speaker 1
Hell yeah. Thanks, Coach.
Thanks, coach.
Speaker 4 Good luck.
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All right, Fire Fest of the week wrapping up. Hank henry
Speaker 7 just you know getting getting torched by some of our own uh oh there's an app kenjack former intern used to run our instagram yeah there's like a there's a snapchat app where you if you have a beard it removes your beard uh he was going around people in the office taking pictures of guys with beards he tweeted it out and then cam who runs our instagram now decided to post that on our instagram i i just you know it was last night i go to open instagram just a disgusting as bad as i look without a beard in general this picture made me look 10 times worse because it was like Photoshop version of it.
Speaker 1 You had a baby face.
Speaker 7 And it's just a close-up of it.
Speaker 4 Giant giant face. Giant face.
Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean, it was like, I look like a flat face, Flat Henry.
Speaker 1 Yeah.
Speaker 7
So I just opened Instagram and was just getting absolutely torched. It was, you know, it's never what you want to see.
So that was my fire face.
Speaker 1 Your face.
Speaker 7 And it's not, people thought it was really... A picture of me without a beard.
Speaker 7 But it was like photoshopped and like my eyes look crazy. My mom texted me and she was like, what is this? I was like,
Speaker 7 it's a Snapchat fell. She's like, no, what's up with your eyes? I was like, I don't, I have no idea.
Speaker 4 Your face looked like your ass in that picture. Yeah, it was very, very funny.
Speaker 4 And Hank, doesn't it suck when somebody manipulates whether it be like visual footage or audio footage about you, and then they put it out on social media and everybody thinks that it's real?
Speaker 4 That's tough, isn't it?
Speaker 7 Yeah, but it wasn't like that someone put up this picture and was like, does this sound like a fart or not? It was just like, here's a disgusting picture.
Speaker 1
Tony Scheffler actually texted me. He was like, oh my God, why did Hank do this? Like, it's a Snapchat filter.
Yeah.
Speaker 7 It was very concerned. I mean,
Speaker 7 my mom texted me and was like, what's going on? I was like, oh, my God.
Speaker 4 You look bad without a beard, but you don't look that bad without a beard.
Speaker 1
Right, that's that's yeah. But you do look bad.
No, yeah. Pretty bad.
Like, really bad. You look
Speaker 4 almost as bad, but in a different way.
Speaker 7 At least with this picture, I can be like, it's a Snapchat filter. However, if it was an actual picture without a beard, it would probably be just as bad.
Speaker 1
Yeah, no, when you don't have a beard regularly, you're disgusting and horrible to look at. When I saw that picture, I was like, kill it right now.
Right. So that's the difference.
Yeah.
Speaker 4 So yeah, that was my favorite. Sorry that you went through through that, Hank.
Speaker 1
Thank you. I appreciate it.
All right, PFC, what's the firefest?
Speaker 4 My firefest of the week is that Space Jam leaked some of their still shots and some of the animations for the upcoming LeBron James movie.
Speaker 4 And Lola Bunny is no longer thick.
Speaker 1 That was a good one.
Speaker 7 They change her from, I think the tweet from TMZ was like, they change her from like sensual to strong.
Speaker 4 Man, and listen, you can get your hottest cartoon characters list going of all time out there. I'm sure that that's a good thing to embrace debate about.
Speaker 4
We should do that during Mount Rushmore season, actually. But Lola Bunny, she was 1A.
She was top of the charts as far as like, she was thicker than a bowl of oatmeal.
Speaker 1 Thicker than a Snicker.
Speaker 4
She had some thighs on her. Now they just made her, they made her string bean.
And I don't think I'm going to go see the new Space Jam.
Speaker 1 I can't wait for the new Space Jam.
Speaker 4
Yeah, I know. If I can't get aroused to a cartoon character in a movie about basketball, then I don't think it's worth my money buying a ticket.
But it also adds to the LeBron versus MJ debate.
Speaker 1 Yeah, they totally took away
Speaker 4 everything that made her great.
Speaker 1 If they nerfed Jess Karabit him out. Yeah, no, Jess Karabit's the most good.
Speaker 4 Unnerfed. Jess Karabitz.
Speaker 1 Unnerfable.
Speaker 1
Absolutely. All right, my Fire Fest is pretty simple.
Be Nice to Billy Week. I've tried really hard, and I think I've done a really good job.
I've been very nice to Billy.
Speaker 1 Unfortunately, now that Be Nice to Billy Week is ending, I just want to say I'm very disappointed because Chris Sims came out with his quarterback rankings. Oh, you actually did it.
Speaker 1 So you did it afterwards. Chris Sims came out with his quarterback rankings, lit the internet on fire.
Speaker 1 And I was like, you know, it'd be great is if we had quarterback rankings, that we could be like, hey, these are our quarterback rankings. Billy just didn't do the thing we asked him to do.
Speaker 1 So now you did it after the fact?
Speaker 1 Yeah, it was just one grade point off, right? So here we go.
Speaker 1 First up, we have Justin Fields. Wait, is this a...
Speaker 1 Let me see this. Let me see.
Speaker 4 Is this going to be a blog, Billy?
Speaker 1
Oh, yeah. I thought I was.
Yeah,
Speaker 4
you should blog this. Yeah, I did.
Because, big cat, we want those clicks.
Speaker 1 Yeah, we do want these clicks.
Speaker 4 People probably don't want to click on quarterback lists anymore because Chris Sims gave them all the good stuff.
Speaker 1
Yeah, so you have Justin Fields, Mac Jones, Trevor Lawrence, three. See, this is what we needed.
And you also are not done.
Speaker 7 No, I got Zach Wilson.
Speaker 1 This is the fourth. Billy was so proud of himself that he was
Speaker 1 like 10.
Speaker 1
I did this. And I'm looking at it.
It stops at 40. But what needs to be said about the South Dakota State kid?
Speaker 1 Everything.
Speaker 4
Dude, he had zero interceptions. He won the national championship.
I know. And does he project to be more of a Carson Wentz or does he project to be more of an
Speaker 4 Italian backup DiNucci?
Speaker 1
Yes. Forgot his name.
Good job. Good job, Billy.
You did it.
Speaker 1
So be nice to Billy Week continues. That's what I wanted.
I wanted when Chris Sims puts out his quarterback rankings. And they were great.
They were great. And you know what?
Speaker 1
Chris Sims has been mostly right. He does his homework.
So I'm not going to.
Speaker 1
Whatever. I'm not going to hate on it.
I don't think he's doing it for clickbait. He's not doing it for effect.
He's actually watching it.
Speaker 1
So when he puts out his quarterback rankings and Trevor Lawrence is two, I want to be like, whoa, way too high, dude. We got him at three.
Yeah. But we have to do that.
Speaker 4 We have him at three. That should have been our click.
Speaker 1 You robbed us of that moment.
Speaker 1 No, my take about Trevor Lawrence is that he is basically Tate Martell.
Speaker 1 But since he's taller,
Speaker 1 no, but since he's taller, because Tate Martell, like undefeated in high school, like greatest quarterback crew ever.
Speaker 1 The only difference is Trevor Lawrence is 6'6, not 5'11, and he's been able to keep the mirage up.
Speaker 4 That's a big difference.
Speaker 1 Right, but he's been
Speaker 1 actually a giant. But the thing is, like, quarterbacks who get
Speaker 1 groomed, like Trevor Lawrence, in practice, they get as many reps as they want to get it right. You got guys like Mac Jones, third string guy.
Speaker 1 Yeah. You know, guys who've been third string, you know, Joe Burrow, who've spinned the backup role where they're like, I need to get it right on the first rep, zero room for error.
Speaker 1
Those are the guys who end up like Tom Brady because Tom Brady was one of those guys. Okay, just really one college.
I was like, Trevor Lawrence, he's going to use. What about like Peyton Manning?
Speaker 1
He was pretty good. Right, but Peyton Manning was one of those guys.
He was guys who got all the reps. Except he was in good report, probably.
Speaker 1 Exactly.
Speaker 1
Exactly. But then you put him on the Colts.
Yeah. How do you do? Really
Speaker 1
amazing. He went into a great scenario there.
Trevor Lawrence is going to get thrown away. Wait, no, no.
He was terrible as rookie year.
Speaker 1 Did he go and see? No, he had a million interceptions.
Speaker 4
He had great numbers. He threw a lot lot of interceptions, but he was pretty good at the best.
He was pretty good.
Speaker 1 The team was bad.
Speaker 4
The team was bad. He was bad.
He threw it in.
Speaker 1 But he went into a better.
Speaker 1 No. He went into a better season.
Speaker 1 I think he went 40. I actually don't remember Peyton Mang's rookie season because I wasn't born.
Speaker 1
I don't think I was born in the middle. It's very clear you don't because you're like 20 years old.
2 and 14 or 4 and 12.
Speaker 1 He went into a great
Speaker 1
idea. I wasn't born.
3 and 13. 3 and 13.
Through 28 interceptions, 26 touchdowns.
Speaker 5 Okay.
Speaker 1
So. That's a lot.
Also, Taylor, watch this.
Speaker 4 This is tough. The synapses connected.
Speaker 1
That was very quick that we just threw something something out there that's like, uh-oh, now what do I say? Anyway, the NFL was different back then. Yes.
The NFL is different back then.
Speaker 1 They didn't lean on quarterbacks as hard as they do now.
Speaker 4 Yeah, so what I'm really upset about is the fact that Chris Sims put Trevor Lawrence number two, right? And him putting Trevor Lawrence number
Speaker 4 two.
Speaker 4
That is a take that is going to get people to watch your stuff, click on your stuff. And Billy, if you had had him three, it's like the world would have been on fire.
You would have owned it.
Speaker 4 And Chris Sims, when he came out with his list, putting him at number two, then people would have been like, oh, well, you remember this other guy that had him at number three?
Speaker 4
And then, boom, that's more clicks for us. And we got robbed of that.
And so I'd like to see you blog it.
Speaker 1
I'd like to see you. I'm going to do some highlight tape.
Yeah, do a baldy breakdown.
Speaker 1
Get your spoon out like Jeff Schwartz. Yeah, we want some tapes.
Some gifts.
Speaker 1
So do it all. But you know what? Good job, Billy.
Well, peppered up. Be nice to Billy Week was a great success.
Speaker 4 Give me the passing cone, the vision cone, like from Matt and Tim.
Speaker 1 I think Mac Jones actually has the biggest promise out of all of them because he's not going to go to one of the top, like top draft pick teams, like shitty teams.
Speaker 1
He's going to go to a team that has a pretty good established team, but needs a quarterback. Patriots? Well, you have them ranked.
Number two. Okay.
Speaker 4 So. Well, then, no, he wouldn't probably go to the Patriots then.
Speaker 1 But I don't actually know what the ranking means. I'm sort of doing it in projection.
Speaker 1 No, you're in five years we can look back and be like, oh, well, Billy had.
Speaker 1
Yeah. Wait, what was I actually ranking them for? You got to clear that up, Billy.
That's one thing that you have to figure out. I was just like, I was ranking them who I think
Speaker 1
would do the best. Yeah, correct.
Correct. Correct.
Speaker 1 Correct.
Speaker 1 Wait, what is that? I wasn't doing their draft.
Speaker 4 What would the other options be?
Speaker 4 You're not doing a mock draft, no. No,
Speaker 1 if you're a GM of every team,
Speaker 1 how does these guys go up? I'm predicting, no, no, I'm
Speaker 1 predicting
Speaker 1
10 years from now how we track them. Correct.
Okay, yes, yes. i want i see just like you had swag kelly as your number one quarterback four years ago no no no i had talent
Speaker 1 talent-wise dude you got you tweeted that thing out today he was a beast dude swag kelly that game against arkansas the last of the true gunslingers the last literally yeah he had 200
Speaker 1 if you keep it in your in the trunk of your car what was the game he had 200 yards rushing and 200 yards pass uh that was almost against in a loss in a loss that's if you put up numbers in a loss and a close loss that's a guy who wants to win that was almost against arkansas great game probably the best college football game of the last five years.
Speaker 1 Trevor Lawrence has only started two games which he's lost, and that's one against LSU and the last one against Alabama.
Speaker 4
So it just occurred to me, I don't want to make the same mistake twice. We lost out in some clicks.
You're going to try to get those back for us. Hopefully,
Speaker 4 I'm sure you'll execute on that tremendously.
Speaker 4 But I don't want to miss out on the other thing that gets you a lot of clicks this time of year, which is brackets. And there haven't been that many brackets come out.
Speaker 4 So what we should do.
Speaker 1
Billy should do a 64-team bracket of all the quarterbacks in the draft. You could do it.
Billy looked over to me like, Jake, you'd do it. Yeah, he did.
Well, come on.
Speaker 4 No, you could do it bracket-wise, or
Speaker 4 we could steal Billy's clicks from him, and we could put out our own bracket of like Billy's worst 32 fuck-ups since he's been on part of my take.
Speaker 4 Like, leaving Rabbit defrosting in the main lobby of the entire company, tweeting out my dick and my cell phone.
Speaker 1 No, no, no, what are you doing with it?
Speaker 1 Be nice to Billy Week.
Speaker 4 Getting Big Cat's to British. Why are we doing this?
Speaker 1 The title you're doing Woodhead by your dogs. Be nice to Billy Week.
Speaker 1
I will not partake in this. It's coming out next week, though.
No, but
Speaker 1
I'm extending Be Nice to Billy. Billy Week.
I'm extending Be Nice to Billy Week. I'm going to keep trying to be nice to Billy.
Speaker 4 I think, Billy, we should do a bracket of Billy's Biggest Wells.
Speaker 1
No, I'm going to be nice to Billy. I'm going to keep being nice to Billy.
Billy, do you have a Fire Fest? Yes.
Speaker 1
Last episode, I kind of clumsily was talking about unpaid internships. What I was trying to say is.
Oh, you got pants over? There's many, there's many.
Speaker 1 There's many.
Speaker 1 I just realized, like, I was thinking about it a lot because I was like, I realized what I was trying to say is that there's, you can't get, we can't get rid of unpaid internships, but there are resources.
Speaker 1 But I can't, but there are resources. We should.
Speaker 1 I posted on Twitter. There's plenty of search engines to find
Speaker 1 funding and scholarships for unpaid internships that you can qualify for, especially underrepresented. So then you get paid.
Speaker 1 Right. But from government and
Speaker 1 funds. Do you get paid? You don't get paid from the employer, but you can get grants so you can take those funds.
Speaker 4 It seems like a lot of work.
Speaker 1 It's a search engine. If you qualify for them,
Speaker 1 so you're just assuming everyone has a computer?
Speaker 1 Wow.
Speaker 1
Yeah. Problematic.
They can't.
Speaker 1 Yikes.
Speaker 4 One person tweeted, I was like, I'm disappointed in your guys' take on unpaid internships because
Speaker 4 it's never going to be where they're all going to be unpaid and there's always people that are willing to do the job for free.
Speaker 4
Not say, like, it does suck that you can't, uh, that some people get excluded, but this is the way that it is. And we're like, Yeah, that's what we're saying.
It does exactly.
Speaker 4
It does suck that some people get excluded. Correct.
So, our take is
Speaker 7 pay them.
Speaker 1 Right. Anyway, pay the boys
Speaker 1
and girls. I posted several links on Twitter at Billy Hudson.
So, all the people who don't have a computer will never see it.
Speaker 1 All right, Jake, you're
Speaker 1 seen.
Speaker 5 I'm taking a page out of Hank's playbook here. I booked a vacation.
Speaker 7 Oh, okay. It's good stuff.
Speaker 5 End of May Memorial Day. Assuming everything goes well, vaccinations will be safe.
Speaker 4
Let's do the right thing. Can I guess where you're going? Sure.
Cooperstown.
Speaker 1 Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 1 Evanston. South Carolina.
Speaker 1 Charleston, South Carolina.
Speaker 4 Ooh, good guess. Miami.
Speaker 5 That's the hometown.
Speaker 1 Where did someone from Florida go on vacation?
Speaker 5 Aspen, Canada. Anywhere but home? Yeah.
Speaker 1
Okay, all right. Continue.
Where? Aruba. Whoa.
Speaker 4 With my home friends.
Speaker 1 Whoa.
Speaker 5 The Fire Fest is
Speaker 5 the majority of us booked a flight.
Speaker 5
Two people didn't. And then we looked the next day.
The flights go from $250 around trip to $800. So now they might not go, which could screw us because we would have to pay more.
Speaker 5 Yeah. So hopefully everything works out.
Speaker 4 But I'm excited. What are you going to do in Aruba?
Speaker 5 Hang out.
Speaker 1
Blow. Jamaica.
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 All night.
Speaker 1
Yep. You'll be scared of it.
I bet you fucking hit well,
Speaker 1 bro. Yeah.
Speaker 1 Of course.
Speaker 5 Totally know what that means.
Speaker 1 Listen. No, so we'll say.
Speaker 4 22.
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89. 99.
8. 32.
Speaker 4 Cephalopods can pass cognitive tests for young children.
Speaker 1
38. Those are squids and octopuses.
Bring back 69, Billy.
Speaker 4 Otherwise, I'm not going to be nice to you. Love you guys.
Speaker 1 Can I keep it? Nope. I'm not going to be nice to you.
Speaker 5 Can we get another one? August 30th, October 20th.
Speaker 1 Whoa. Love you guys.
Speaker 1 Take
Speaker 1 me
Speaker 1 on.
Speaker 1 I'll be
Speaker 1 gone
Speaker 1 to watch you.
Speaker 1 I'm talking away.
Speaker 1 Though I'm the one
Speaker 1 to stay unstable anyway.
Speaker 1 Today's another day to find you. Shy away.
Speaker 1 I'll be coming for your love, okay.
Speaker 1 Shy away.
Speaker 1 I'll be coming for your love, okay.
Speaker 1 Make
Speaker 1 me up.
Speaker 1 I'll be gone.
Speaker 1 Needless to say,
Speaker 1 I'm sitting there but be staying away.
Speaker 1 Furthermore, the life is okay.
Speaker 1 Stay after me.
Speaker 1 There's no better to say that's all.
Speaker 1 Stay after me.
Speaker 1 There's no better to say that sorry.
Speaker 1 Take
Speaker 1 on
Speaker 1 me.
Speaker 1 Take me
Speaker 1 on.
Speaker 1 I'll be
Speaker 1 gone.
Speaker 1 Take up to
Speaker 1 I'm feeling like the same
Speaker 1 day in the light of just the same upwards away.
Speaker 1 You are things I've come to remember. You be shining away.
Speaker 1 Oh, I'll be coming for you anyway.
Speaker 1 Shining away.
Speaker 1 I'll be coming for you anyway.
Speaker 1 Take on
Speaker 1 me.
Speaker 1 Take me
Speaker 1 up.
Speaker 1 I'll be gone
Speaker 1 your day.
Speaker 1 I'll be gone
Speaker 1 yet.